Episode 308 | Entertainment Purposes Only...

Summary

Podcast Summary: New Rory & MAL
Episode 308 | Entertainment Purposes Only...
Release Date: October 4, 2024

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1. Introduction and Lighthearted Banter (00:00 - 02:30)

The episode kicks off with Rory, Maul, and Julian engaging in playful and humorous exchanges about personal preferences, notably Rory and Julian's exaggerated requests for a "big fat woman." This segment sets a lighthearted tone for the episode, showcasing the hosts' chemistry and comedic rapport.

Notable Quote:
Rory (00:59):
"I think it's time, y'all, that I leave these skinny women alone."

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2. Parenting Anecdotes and Safety Concerns (02:30 - 06:00)

The conversation shifts to personal stories about babysitting their child, Mara. Maul shares amusing observations about Mara's developing motor skills, such as her "bow legs" and "pigeon toes," and her adventurous spirit around the house. The hosts discuss the challenges of ensuring her safety amidst equipment at home, highlighting Maul's anxiety over potential hazards.

Notable Quote:
Maul (02:16):
"She was jumping off of everything. Everything in here is her playground at this point."
Rory (05:00):
"Have you guys ever had an airbag hit you in pop?"

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3. Media Skepticism and Conspiracy Theories in Hip-Hop (06:00 - 18:00)

A substantial portion of the episode delves into the hosts' skepticism regarding recent media reports and conspiracy theories within the hip-hop industry. They critically analyze Jaguar Wright's appearances on platforms like Piers Morgan, questioning the credibility and vetting processes behind the sensational allegations made against prominent figures such as Jay Z and Beyoncé.

Key Discussion Points:

• Credibility of Sources: The hosts express doubts about the legitimacy of the allegations presented by Jaguar Wright, emphasizing the lack of concrete evidence.
• Impact on Hip-Hop Culture: Concerns are raised about how these unverified claims tarnish the reputation of the hip-hop community.
• Media Responsibility: Calls for responsible journalism and thorough vetting to prevent the spread of misinformation.

Notable Quotes:
Maul (09:00):
"If anybody is guilty of any of these things that are being alleged, they should be held accountable to the highest degree."
Rory (12:22):
"It is the most influential art form on the planet. You need us, we gotta stamp it, make it cool."
Maul (16:17):
"If any of this were true from the person that I know, it would have to hurt my perception completely."

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4. Current Events: Hurricane Helene and FEMA Response (51:23 - 54:30)

The hosts transition to discussing the devastating impact of Hurricane Helene, particularly in the Carolinas. They criticize the federal government's inadequate response, highlighting FEMA's limited aid distribution amidst larger financial allocations to international conflicts, notably in Israel.

Key Discussion Points:

• Funding Priorities: Debate over the allocation of funds towards foreign aid versus domestic disaster relief.
• Government Accountability: Frustration with political leadership prioritizing geopolitical interests over citizen welfare.
• Call for Action: Emphasis on the need for the U.S. to better support its own citizens during natural disasters.

Notable Quotes:
Rory (51:23):
"Prayers to everyone that was affected by Hurricane Helene, especially in the Carolinas."
Julian (52:30):
"We just sent 8 billion to Israel."
Maul (54:30):
"People are fucked up in our own country right now."

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5. Halloween Reflections and Costume Stories (43:00 - 58:00)

In a lighter vein, the hosts reminisce about past Halloween experiences, sharing stories about costumes and the sometimes awkward outcomes of their choices. They discuss the challenges of standing out at costume parties and the humorous misunderstandings that can arise from their attire.

Key Discussion Points:

• Costume Creativity: Importance of putting effort into costumes to avoid looking generic.
• Social Reactions: Personal anecdotes about how their costumes were perceived by others.
• Humorous Advice: Playful tips on managing costume-related misunderstandings.

Notable Quotes:
Rory (45:28):
"I was like, I'll go in the same fit Prodigy hat on, like, one of his iconic looks."
Maul (47:14):
"This is just for entertainment."
Rory (54:31):
"I was in a relationship for five years, and I just got out of it earlier this year."

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6. Voicemails: Relationship Advice and Personal Stories (59:00 - 84:00)

The hosts engage with voicemails from listeners seeking advice on various personal relationship dilemmas. These segments are characterized by their humorous and candid responses, often turning serious questions into comedic exchanges.

Sample Voicemails and Responses:

• Tattoo Dilemma:
  A caller named Nick seeks advice on dealing with past relationship tattoos now that he's in a new relationship. The hosts humorously suggest elaborate solutions, blending practical advice with playful banter.

  Notable Quote:
  Rory (60:56):
  "He cannot go to her and be like, yo, I'm not trying to make the same mistake twice by getting you tatted on."

• Love Triangle Scenario:
  Another caller describes a complex love triangle involving friends and asks for guidance. The hosts dissect the scenario with a mix of humor and genuine concern.

  Notable Quote:
  Maul (73:07):
  "You're gonna end up hurting that situation."

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7. Celebrity News and NBA Team Changes (58:00 - 83:00)

Discussion turns to recent developments in the NBA, including player trades and team dynamics. The hosts express their opinions on player movements, team strategies, and the potential impact on upcoming seasons.

Key Discussion Points:

• Player Trades: Reactions to notable trades and their implications for team performance.
• Team Strategies: Analysis of how new player acquisitions might influence team dynamics.
• Fan Engagement: Sharing excitement and predictions for the upcoming NBA season.

Notable Quotes:
Maul (56:35):
"They're gonna have to go to hip hop. It just is what it is."
Rory (83:38):
"We're going to go enjoy our week and do the things that we like to do in our own free time."

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8. Closing Remarks and Final Thoughts (84:00 - End)

As the episode draws to a close, the hosts reflect on past episodes, share upcoming plans, and extend well-wishes to listeners and guests. They maintain a balance between humor and sincerity, ensuring a memorable wrap-up to the episode.

Notable Quote:
Maul (83:28):
"We will be in Toronto October 17th. We will be in Atlanta, November."
Rory (86:16):
"We not giving you Michael J. Fox's shoes back there."

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Insights and Conclusions

Media Responsibility:
The hosts emphasize the importance of credible journalism, especially when it involves serious allegations against prominent figures. They advocate for thorough vetting to maintain the integrity of media platforms and protect the reputation of communities like hip-hop.

Cultural Representation:
There is a strong undercurrent about the portrayal of hip-hop culture in mainstream media. The hosts highlight the need for balanced representation that acknowledges both the positive aspects and the challenges within the community.

Personal Growth and Relationships:
Through the voicemails, the discussion underscores the complexities of personal relationships and the humorous yet meaningful guidance friends can provide when navigating these challenges.

Social Responsibility:
Addressing Hurricane Helene, the hosts critique governmental priorities, calling for better support systems for citizens in times of crisis, and highlighting issues of redistribution of aid funds.

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Overall Tone:
The episode blends humor with serious discussions, showcasing the hosts' ability to navigate a wide range of topics while maintaining an engaging and entertaining atmosphere. Their candid and relatable conversations offer listeners both laughter and thoughtful commentary on current issues.

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Disclaimer:
All content within this summary is intended for entertainment purposes only and reflects the opinions and discussions presented in Episode 308 of "New Rory & MAL." Listeners are encouraged to form their own opinions based on the full episode.

Transcript

[Rory]

No worry and now.

[Maul]

I want a.

[Rory]

Big fat woman I want a big.

[Julian]

Fat woman I want a big fat.

[Maul]

Woman I want a big fat woman.

[Julian]

I want a big fat woman with meat shaking on her phone if you ain't got a fat woman, you're making a mistake Because a big fat woman tastes as good as a T bone steak I want a big fat woman with meat shaking on her bones I.

[Rory]

Want a big fat woman well, you.

[Julian]

Know, I think it's time, y'all, that I leave these skinny women alone.

[Maul]

Making love to a fat woman show is a treat because I'm here to.

[Julian]

Tell you that meat whole heat. I want a big fat woman with.

[Maul]

Meat shaking on her phone.

[Rory]

I didn't get any smelling soul.

[Maul]

Yeah, we're back. We're back. Are we rolling peaches? Are we rolling pieces? Let's do it, man.

[Rory]

I need that product. What is that?

[Maul]

It's called life, man. It's called life, man. And we are back. How you feeling? I feel great, man. Shut up. I just saw yesterday anyway. I just saw you 12 hours ago.

[Rory]

Man, and you stayed late with me to help babysit us.

[Maul]

I stayed late. Mara was here. Oh, my gosh. She's getting so big.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Maul]

I was laughing at her running. She has a little bow legs.

[Rory]

Yeah, she's good.

[Maul]

Pigeon toes.

[Rory]

Yeah. And she says it when she watch goes tiptoe. Tiptoe. So, yeah, she's trying to jump off the steps.

[Maul]

Oh, it's crazy.

[Rory]

Well, let me not say try. She was jumping off.

[Maul]

She was jumping off of everything. Everything in here is her playground at this point. Once she find it. Once they find their legs, there's no turning them off.

[Rory]

She tripped over in one of the C stands. Ma was like, are you okay? I was like, she gotta learn.

[Maul]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. He got it to his dad. Let her learn. Yeah, Like, I understand, but let's help her up. Like, I don't want to watch.

[Rory]

You saw. You saw. The next time she went past the C stand, she went around it.

[Maul]

My anxiety was going crazy. Anytime there's, like a equipment and sharp things and babies around, my anxiety is on a whole nother level, so.

[Rory]

Well, we didn't think that through. I thought we were gonna meet, like, in the lounge where there isn't recording equipment.

[Maul]

Whenever Mara comes here, she runs straight back here. You know that.

[Rory]

Yeah, but it was fun. It was fun to kick it. It's been. It's been a light week. I feel like.

[Maul]

Has it? I feel like it's been a lot of shit going on.

[Rory]

I Mean, like personally.

[Maul]

We had the vice president. Oh, personally. Yeah.

[Rory]

No, there's definitely a bunch of news that we've been talking.

[Maul]

Okay. To my personal.

[Rory]

Well, yeah, just like, you know, starting out the episode. I haven't done much but pod this entire week.

[Maul]

Yeah, this week has been a lot of work. Recording even when we're not recording. Meetings, phone calls.

[Rory]

Too many phone calls.

[Maul]

Yeah, almost too many.

[Julian]

I saved a woman's life this morning.

[Maul]

Oh, did you not?

[Julian]

Yeah. So you know, like on like the busiest corners of New York, there's like the. Sometimes when the cars that can't go straight, but the turning signal still has the right of way.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Maul]

She had AirPods on and wasn't paying attention.

[Julian]

I know those corners. So I'm the guy because I'm. I walk.

[Rory]

I know those corners.

[Maul]

Those are your corners.

[Julian]

Those are my streets.

[Maul]

You hug the corner like Dion. I.

[Rory]

And I want my corners. You being Avon Barksdale, the Lower east side is hilarious.

[Maul]

Who cover the corners like Julian, baby.

[Julian]

Okay, lockdown, I get it. No, so you know you can like walk pretty much, you know, till the. Till the turn lane, let the cars go and then you go. So you don't have to do the whole thing. When the light change. It's just. It's New York.

[Maul]

I know what corny talking about.

[Julian]

You know exactly what I'm talking about. You have to pay.

[Rory]

It's a lot of times.

[Julian]

It's a lot of blindly walk into some. And I've seen that happen.

[Rory]

Or you can just look at the sign that says when it's okay to walk.

[Julian]

No, because you know how New Yorkers walk with like the AirPods in like song. And they'll just phone, head down and they'll like, peripherally.

[Maul]

I don't understand. I never understood that.

[Julian]

But like, the problem is people will peripherally look at who's next to them and follow them blindly.

[Maul]

Both have AirPods in at one time.

[Julian]

I do. Yeah.

[Maul]

I never do that.

[Julian]

Yeah. But I usually have it not on noise cancel. So I can hear like the world. Yeah. So I am. I'm walking to the gym this morning and I'm going. And this woman who's on her phone, this is like 8 in the morning, sees that. I go, so she's walking next to me and I slow down because there's a city bus coming down, flying down because they still have the green.

[Maul]

They have the right away.

[Julian]

And I said, ho, ho, ho, ho. Like, hold up. I was like, hold, hold, hold up, hold up. And she didn't stop. So I Like, I grabbed like, I put my arm out and like, held her back. And then the buses went like. Right. She would have been. That would have ruined my day. She would have been cooked because she was just following, like, just, you know, you know how people do that shit.

[Maul]

So just not paying.

[Julian]

And then she just like looked at me like, exhale. I was like, whoa. And I was like, anyway, have a good day. And I just went about my day. I was it.

[Rory]

My mom got smoked by a bike.

[Julian]

I probably would just gone back home.

[Maul]

If she got hit.

[Julian]

Yeah, I don't think I could like, do a workout after that.

[Maul]

Have you ever seen. Ever seen anybody get hit by a car and die?

[Julian]

Yeah, not die. Almost happened to my bro. It happened to my brother. He miraculously didn't die, but he was hit by it.

[Maul]

I actually saw somebody like that happened in front of us one time when, you know, the buses, the double deckers, the. The wide with the spring in the middle.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Maul]

A dude was on a motorcycle and he was coming down the hill and the bus was coming out from the bus stop. And I guess he didn't realize the bus come, so he tried to like turn and end up like falling off the bike, sliding nice in the back. It's not nice. He died back the back of the bus. End up running over his head. Like, it sound like somebody opened a tunic.

[Julian]

You know what? It. It's the sound.

[Maul]

It was like that.

[Julian]

If you ever see or witness a.

[Rory]

Crash, that's why you keep going there.

[Julian]

But it's the sound that. It's the sounds of this crash and the smells that. That are like chilling.

[Maul]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Have you guys ever had an air. Airbag hit you in pop?

[Julian]

No, I haven't.

[Rory]

Oh, first. Yeah, it burns. But that smell. Like they purposely put a smell in there. Like if you are unconscious, that might wake you up. It smells so bad.

[Julian]

Yeah, I. This girl one time in college, we had a fire drill so everyone in the dorm had to get out the building. And I used to nap all the time in school, so I was like woken up out of a sleep. So I was pretty much asleep just waiting outside. And this girl just like started having a seizure and she just like locked up and fell back on the concrete in her head. It sounded like you dropped a bowling ball. It was just like.

[Maul]

Just boom.

[Julian]

And then she started bleeding. She didn't die, but it was just like fudgeing. Terrifying.

[Maul]

Yeah.

[Julian]

It was like, what do I do? How do I go to class after this?

[Maul]

No. Yeah, go to class. Class is canceled.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Rory]

I feel like when we were in Chicago, PJ and my mom would always get to the lobby before everyone else for, like, our call times. And I feel like she was just annoying Page. Anytime I walked down there, she was just telling some story that I'm sure Page didn't care about. And correct me if I'm wrong. Was she telling you the story when she got fudgeing? Ran over by a biker in the city? I thought when I was walking.

[Maul]

Yet he didn't get to that.

[Rory]

I think he just zoned out at that point. Yeah, my mom, you know, sometimes you take a step in the bike lane.

[Maul]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Before you cross, just bong smoked.

[Maul]

How long ago was this?

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Maul]

Oh, she gave you that story.

[Rory]

What do you. What made her bring that up? In Chicago, in a lobby, saw somebody with a bike.

[Maul]

That's all it takes.

[Julian]

You just saw Uber eats a bike.

[Maul]

Yeah. She was like, oh, and did I tell you about the time? Yeah, he told me seven times about that story. Mom.

[Rory]

Yeah, my mom. My mom should be a streamer. She just, like, doesn't know how to just be quiet for a second.

[Maul]

That's like.

[Rory]

She'll just go on rants and rambles. Like, we could be quiet for a second. You know, we don't have to talk.

[Maul]

I think that's an older person thing, though. Like, older people, they. They. They talk, man. My mom, she's at that. She'll talk to any.

[Julian]

My mom.

[Maul]

I was in the supermarket with my mom one time, and I. She told me she was going to grab something that she forgot, and she was going to meet me at the checkout counter. So, you know, we had. It was a lot of groceries. So I'm like, okay. She got time. The lady then scanned everything. Everything is in the bag, ready to walk up. My mom is still not at the county yet, so naturally I take off. I'm like, hold on, let me go get my mom. I run, bro. She's in the back in the butcher section talking to some random dude. That works. I'm like, what are we doing here?

[Rory]

Talking about the veal.

[Maul]

Yeah, she's talking about, like, just know that the economy, that's even worse. It wasn't even about the product in the store. It was just the economy and everything is inflated.

[Rory]

Well, in her defense, with the longshoreman strike right now, price is going to go even higher. So. Yeah, maybe she was trying to get in there before.

[Maul]

Get the press.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Maul]

Like, yo, I know y'all want 14 for the steak.

[Rory]

Now, when the per pound goes up, just Remember me.

[Maul]

Just remember me.

[Rory]

Remember your girl.

[Maul]

I was loyal.

[Rory]

Getting the homie Price of the Delius. That's hilarious.

[Maul]

That's something my mom would do, though.

[Rory]

Oh, man. But yeah, I guess that is probably an older person thing.

[Maul]

Speaking of something my mom would do, here's something my mom wouldn't do. Go on a tour and just create stories like Jaguar Wright.

[Rory]

Listen, man, it's a crazy segue to.

[Maul]

Go from because I'm just. I'm just here today to just address. I get it. I know the times we're in, a lot of things are being revealed. A lot of nasty things. A lot of nasty people. And if anybody is guilty of any of these things that are being alleged, they should be held accountable to the highest. The highest degree. Let's start there. But at some point, we gotta just stop opening up platforms and cameras and microphones for people to just spew things that just have not been anywhere near remotely true. That's my only problem with Jaguar right now. I get it. She's created this lane. And you know, the National Enquirer, we always talk about it. It sells. It's been selling since I was a kid. So we know that there's people that eat this type of shit up, want to hear these type of salacious stories and outlandish, you know, times. And my thing is, how does Jaguar Wright have all. Where was Jaguar Wright when all this was going down? How come she has all this information on all these.

[Julian]

She was at the parties.

[Rory]

No, but she said she wasn't.

[Maul]

She said she was at what parties? Bro Diddy's.

[Julian]

She said, I've seen it firsthand account with my own eyes. And then she said, I also know women that are in the industry that also work hidden cameras and we're filming things.

[Rory]

She also said she rescued three girls from Epstein Island. I'm like, yo, when did Jaguar Wright get a boat?

[Julian]

Strong swimmer?

[Maul]

Well, yeah, I can see that. I could see her being a very good swimmer.

[Rory]

So when I. I did watch this Jaguar, right on Piers Morgan. And not to say Piers Morgan is anyone that we need to look up to or that he is the end all be all of news. And I always thought news was full of shit regardless. But they would be talking about issues I didn't know much about and bring on analysts and authors and people way smarter than me. I wouldn't like really take their word for it, but I would also think this person clearly has studied this topic and understands it. They had to have vet them in some degree. But ever since this Diddy thing. The people that they are bringing on to discuss the hip hop world makes me think they've never vetted anyone on any subject ever. Why is Jaguar Wright doing a one on one with Piers Morgan? Like, it was cool with her YouTube stuff when she was doing her conspiracies for the last 10 years. And to her credit, some of the shit she said was right, but to a lot of people, that was common knowledge. When it came to the Puff shit, why is she on Piers Morgan talking about Jay Z and Beyonce putting children in suitcases and throwing them in the alley? Why is this allowed on Piers Morgan? And again, not to say Pierce is that guy right? Or has any like, integrity where, like, we, we know if they go on Pierce, we're going to get the truth.

[Maul]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Rory]

But why no one vetted this at all, man.

[Maul]

I don't know.

[Rory]

What Was their source? YouTube? Trust me, bro.

[Maul]

Yeah, I don't. I think. Well, we know how these things go when, because when the Puff shit happened months ago with Cassie, we got some calls from some networks and people that wanted to interview us and we said absolutely not. So now that obviously, you know, Puff is going to court, the charges have been presented, you know, there's, there's a floodgate of media outlets opening up to anybody that's willing to come on from our culture that have been maybe even at a show that Puff had that may have a story. They're opening up their, their platforms for people to come and talk. And like you said, Jaguar Wright has been one of the more vocal voices over the year as far as this type of stuff going on in the industry. And like you said, some of the things she speaks about has been proven and came to light is true.

[Rory]

I feel like if she was talking about anyone outside of hip hop, this network would have vetted this way more.

[Maul]

Of course, like, of course.

[Rory]

They really were just like, trust me, bro.

[Maul]

Yeah.

[Rory]

And threw her on live tv.

[Maul]

They're looking at her like, oh, she.

[Rory]

Has to know, like, listen, I love Heart of the City.

[Maul]

Yeah.

[Rory]

That's not, that's not a fact.

[Maul]

She's saying Jay Z's Unplugged set on mtv. She has to know. He has to know what's going on. And that's the thing that I'm just like, it's such thing as too far and too much. That's all. And again, if she's right about anything she's saying and anybody she's talking about, then they should be held accountable to the highest degree. Throw them the Fuck away. If any of these things are true about any of these people, throw them away. Let's get rid of these people and.

[Rory]

The stuff that she's saying. Like, again, we've talked about this the last few months. Like, it is kind of unfortunate that the only time any of these outlets have invited people of hip hop culture on their network, it's to discuss Huff and, like, just nasty shit. Never anything else. That's why I do salute Cameron for going up there and be like, I'm selling dick pills. What do you want from me?

[Maul]

Right? Right.

[Rory]

They are going to take her word as a fact, especially in the world of conspiracy theories that we now all believe. And a lot of Pierce's audience is the far right. I think he does a good job of balancing both sides. I like his panels, but far right for the most part. And far right is the new conspiracy theorist, which has been such a weird shift. They went from being the government will always tell us the truth to everything's a conspiracy. They're going to assume that when Jaguar Wright gets up there and says, Jeffrey Epstein, Bill Cosby, Puff, who's the only person they have in common? Jay Z. They are now going to take that as, okay, Jay Z traffics little children.

[Maul]

Yeah. Which is crazy.

[Rory]

I assume while we're recording this now, Hove is sent a large group of Jewish lawyers to congregate. And Jaguar, right, may not be allowed outside of her house. It's not all right, people. You can say that crazy shit on YouTube all you want. And I think Hov and people of that cloth will be like, whatever. Like, I'm run down every YouTube conspiracy.

[Maul]

Right.

[Rory]

He went on Pierce, she went on Pierce Morgan and suggested that he's trafficking.

[Maul]

Children and throwing them in the alley in a suitcase. You don't see it. You can't see Jay doing it.

[Rory]

And listen, my. I give half a salute to Jaguar because she has been right about certain stuff.

[Julian]

But she never see what you did there.

[Rory]

She never has any real, like, evidence to back it up. It's always just like, now I got like, me, yeah, y'all turn them in.

[Maul]

Yeah. Trust me.

[Rory]

But you never turn them in.

[Maul]

Never.

[Julian]

And again, she did say sorry real quick. She said she has footage from women that have been wearing wires and cameras. So if that's true, then there would be more evidence at play here. But who's to say?

[Rory]

I'm not saying that she doesn't have that. I'm not saying that she doesn't know women that have been harmed by Puff. I think there's a lot of people that know women that were harmed by Puff. But to just then throw in random names like, I know I did not know Jay and Bill Cosby were that close.

[Maul]

They're not. They're not.

[Rory]

When Cosby was putting quaaludes in women's drinks in the 70s, I didn't know Hov was there.

[Maul]

He wasn't just that simple. Like I, you know, now I, I.

[Rory]

Believe, correct me if I'm wrong, because a lot of those flight logs were bullshit. With Jeffrey Epstein, I do remember seeing something along the lines of one plane that was owned by Jeffrey Epstein. Jay's and Beyonce flew on. Who the fuck knows?

[Julian]

Cool.

[Rory]

If you want to look into that, I would never be mad at someone going, well, hey, that's weird. We should, we should figure out why. But to then just go, Jeffrey Epstein, Puff, Bill Cosby, Jay Z. Yeah, laid it all out. So I never even thought of it that way.

[Maul]

Yeah, that's a problem. Now you ain't thinking about it and.

[Rory]

They'Re going to kill us for being Hovangers. But I'm, I think it's more so not a J thing. It's a hip hop thing. Because the only way hip hop is being portrayed on these platforms now is this bullshit that we need to nip in the bud. Don't get me wrong, Puff needs to see his day in court. And if it's all facts, bury him under the jail. But that's now the only representation of what hip hop is now across these platforms.

[Maul]

Right?

[Rory]

Which is fucking nuts to me. And again, I don't know, who cares? Because those people probably wouldn't look at hip hop in a good light anyways, but this is just doubling down on that even more.

[Maul]

I mean, let me be very clear because again, you know, the whole vengeance thing, I don't want to want us to sit here and sound like, you know, if Jay Z. And again, I would be surprised and devastated. Is to the, the 100th degree, if any of this were true that she was saying about Jay Z, I would be absolutely. It would be the most like, I would have to question everything I've ever seen in my life at this point. If any of this were true from, from the person that I know, from the day that I know and that I grew up around, like it would, it was, it's just not, it's not in his character.

[Rory]

But to me, that's like unfair. If there was legitimate accusations, then I think you should say what you're saying no to just spark the idea like.

[Maul]

No, no, no, J2, I'm not, no. But I'm just saying, based on what I don't want people to say.

[Rory]

Have we investigated Eminem yet?

[Maul]

No, but I'm just saying I don't want people to say, oh, they're sitting there, they just. Their whole vengeance. I'm saying, oh, let's be very clear. If, if any of this is true about him, I would be absolutely surprised, devastated. I don't even know what other word to use behind it because just knowing him and knowing his character and who he is as a person, it just wouldn't. It wouldn't make sense to me. It wouldn't match up.

[Rory]

And what's like unfortunate where Jaguar Wright goes wrong, she shoots her own credibility down so much like, because I did watch the whole Pierce thing. She made points that I agree with, that we've said on this podcast. Yeah, I think there was probably some grooming from Clive Davis. There has been more than just rumors about Clive Puff in that entire era of music. I think that is something she should bring up with Piers Morgan. Not to say it's a fact or anyone's been charged specifically, but if you go through Puff's paperwork, Lucien's in there, Clive's in there, a lot of people that you could at least have the conversation comfortably on a news network like that. It's when you just go and just throw random names in that it shoots down. Even the Clive part. Like, where's your credibility at all?

[Maul]

Yeah.

[Rory]

She had a hilarious back and forth with Starr. Shout out to Starr, friend of the show.

[Maul]

We love Star the legend Starr.

[Rory]

The back and forth was hilarious. I encourage everyone to go check that out. But she shot her credibility down with Starr immediately. She was saying, oh, Starr and Buck Wild. Buck is my friend. How's Buck? How's Buck? Then by the end of it, after they started cursing each other out, she started saying, well, Buck fucks 15 year old girls. I'm gonna put Buck in jail. Two minutes ago, he was your friend in this clip. Yeah, like your, your credibility is gone at that point. Like, I want to root for Jaguar, right? Because I do think some of the stuff she says is correct. It needs to be said and she has the balls to say it. It's just when you add that other 60, 70%, that takes away from everything that she does.

[Maul]

Paints everything you just said, it taints everything you just said. But that, that back and right between oh, fucking Star and Jaguar was Star my favorite. It's certain people, man, that you just got to know don't care about anything.

[Rory]

Can't cancel them.

[Maul]

You can't cancel them because it's like, what you. How do you cancel stars? You don't. You can't cancel Starr. So certain people that when they, you know, they have these conversations with people, I'm like, they didn't know who Starr was. They wasn't aware of his. They didn't know his work. They wasn't familiar with his game. But that back and right, was. That back and forth was. Was funny.

[Rory]

It was cool to hear her sing Heart of the City to prove that it was really her.

[Maul]

I mean, because I don't think nobody ever questioned that.

[Rory]

It was just a hilarious and great way to prove that it was Jaguar, right? Because she called in and star. You know, he's been in radio for however long. Fucking 40 years at this point, media, period. It's like, well, you just called in. We didn't set this up. I don't really know if this is you, right? And then she started going into the hook, and he was like, all right, yeah, that checks out.

[Maul]

Yeah, yeah. Oh, it's her.

[Rory]

That was. That was a perfect pitch. Yeah. Now we have a combo.

[Maul]

Oh, man. Weird times we're in, but we'll wait and see.

[Rory]

Too bad you can't do that at, like, the DMV or, like, when you're trying to get into the club. Is this really you? Like, at an airport? That's how you identify yourself with your talent.

[Maul]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Like, what if we just start potting in front of tsa?

[Maul]

Maybe somebody in the back, like, move it. My flight's late.

[Julian]

Put the mics down.

[Rory]

Like, what if it was. What if they didn't accept your idea tsa? And then you just started screaming how crazy it was for a pregnant woman to have sex. And then they were like, you know what?

[Maul]

That's him.

[Rory]

Right? Right through here, Jamil.

[Maul]

Yeah.

[Julian]

Just for entertainment.

[Maul]

Check my phone. I don't listen to Kendrick.

[Julian]

Yeah, look at.

[Rory]

Look at my monthly listeners.

[Julian]

To creep into music with more controversy. Rory and I were briefly talking about this before we hit record. Tommy Richmond's debut album came out. I liked it. Rory, did you finish it?

[Rory]

Yeah, and I gave it a few more listens. I do like it.

[Julian]

It's a great album. But he did. Look, I'll just say, I plain. I think he shouldn't have done this. But he ended up jumping on Twitter and saying, coyote album of the year. And then he, in a separate tweet, I am not a hip hop artist. And that immediately started the narrative of are you digging yourself in the post Malone Lane? Are you purposely trying to exit hip hop? Why, like, my thing? Why would you say that?

[Rory]

Learn from your ancestors. Your ancestor Tommy Malone. Why would you do this?

[Julian]

And then he tried to clean it up before.

[Rory]

I meant to say I'm not solely a hip hop artist. This is after a back and forth with DJ Head.

[Maul]

Y'all ain't even get the souly part.

[Rory]

I just didn't really see what was necessary about that. Like, his. His album is not under hip hop. I don't think anyone has gone around calling Tommy Richmond a hip hop artist. Why just go out the gate like, I'm not a hip hop artist?

[Maul]

Well, it was probably some people saying he was a hip hop artist, and he probably just wanted to clear it up that I'm not a hip hop artist.

[Julian]

Well, the album is. Is. Yeah. To Rory's point, the album is categorized under R and B and soul.

[Maul]

Yeah.

[Julian]

And now you're just inserting yourself into a conversation that really, really no one even had you in. So now you're. It's like, it's the thing. It's. It's the problem. It's like you're. You're looking to separate yourself. Because when you say I'm not a hip hop artist, there's way more that comes with that statement than just the music. It's like you're choosing to separate yourself and in exile, that culture from your identity. That's how people take it. It's not about, I make this kind of music. He's from the dmv.

[Maul]

Okay.

[Rory]

Yeah. From.

[Julian]

I think he's from Brent, Virginia.

[Rory]

Yes.

[Julian]

Yeah, Woodbridge.

[Maul]

Okay.

[Rory]

That's just like, the Post Malone comments were awful. But I understood at least where the conversation came from after White Iverson, like, and he was trying to pivot. At least there was a conversation there for him to say the. That he said, who heard Million Dollar Baby and was like, wow, what a great hip hop song.

[Julian]

Yeah, this is.

[Rory]

It wasn't even under hip hop. It was played outside of hip hop radio. It was just. It just felt unnecessary and weird.

[Maul]

Like, listen, I'm not following Tommy on socials. I'm not checking his mentions, but I'm pretty sure he had to see some people, something out there categorizing his sound or his album or his style as hip hop. So I don't see him just tweeting, I'm not a hip hop artist. Like, I don't. That. What sense does that make?

[Rory]

I just felt like it was a very Odd and specific way to get out of the hip hop genre. Like, I think a lot of his fans and really who built Million Dollar Baby were fans of hip hop. And. And probably I hate the urban crowd quote unquote, which we could say about post. That's why everyone was pissed off. Like, this crowd started you. You wouldn't be in the position to be a pop star without us giving you that first platform. So to dismiss hip hop is crazy. But I feel like.

[Maul]

I feel like hip hop. Or is he just clarifying to go.

[Rory]

Out of your way to say I'm not a hip hop artist when no one's calling you? That is to me, can't say nobody.

[Maul]

You didn't check his mentions?

[Julian]

Well, he said was like they had a back and forth. And he said, I'm doing my radio mix. Like, I'll play. I have two open slots for anyone proud to be. For any artist proud to be hip hop. And he said, I'll say it again. Tommy said, I'll say it again. I'm thankful for everything I'm saying. I don't want to be boxed in. I grew up on hip hop, but I'm a singer again.

[Maul]

Nothing wrong with that.

[Julian]

There's nothing wrong with the statement. But this isn't a conversation that's been being had. Like, I just. To Rory's point, you're jumping out and putting yourself into a thing where no one was pigeonholing you. No one was making you that post. Malone had the braids. He had the white Rolls Royce. He made a rap song. It's about Alan I. It's called literally, Allen Iverson. Like, there was so much more to his image and likeness at that time where the comparisons made sense. Like, they yielded towards that. Yeah, no one's saying that about Tommy. And also, also, like your predecessor, like, sorry, like your. Your OG in this space is. Is Brett. No one says Brett's a hip hop artist. Like, Brett Fais just makes amazing R B.

[Rory]

And also, like, I've heard other artists in the past, like Tyler or even a Kanye, where they're like, yo, I'm not just hip hop. I'm more than that. Like Tyler, for example, with Igor, I think should have been album of the year. He got nominated for rap album of the Year. It wasn't. It had elements of hip hop, don't get me wrong. But it wasn't labeled that way. Wasn't that they did it because there is a dark black man on the COVID Right? So they were like, you're hip hop. I can See the anger of an artist that doesn't want to be boxed in, like, yeah, I'm hip hop, but also make other shit. Don't put me in that category. 808s and heartbreaks is hip hop, but it's also something else. Don't make it hip hop because I'm black.

[Maul]

Right.

[Rory]

I get that argument. Tommy. No one thought. No one was boxing you into hip hop.

[Maul]

You don't think that's hip hop right there?

[Rory]

I think. I think Tommy can be hip hop, but no one was questioning that he was going to stay in that box.

[Julian]

Yeah. The physical identity of Tommy. No one's screaming like.

[Rory]

And where it gets a little offensive, too, is as much as I like his album, I do hear a lot of sounds that are derived from hip hop.

[Maul]

Well, he said that in the tweet, that he cleared it up. He said he grew up on hip hop, but you can hear it. But I'm a singer, and you can also be a singer and be hip hop. Like, let's put that out there. I don't think people understand that part of it. You can also be a singer and still be hip hop.

[Rory]

Like, I think 808s is still hip hop, but don't say it's just hip hop.

[Maul]

Yeah. Nate Dogg was a singer. Hip hop.

[Rory]

Incredible one.

[Maul]

Let's just put that out there.

[Julian]

Yeah, but to your point, like, yes, you can, but those. But when people are calling you hip, like, no one calls him hip hop. Like, this is.

[Maul]

No, I get what you're saying.

[Julian]

Yeah, yeah. I just don't get why he would put him.

[Maul]

I'm just saying that he probably had got some tweets and read some things on other platforms where people were probably saying, you know, he's. He's trying to be hip hop. Or, you know, it's probably just a defense of I'm not hip hop. Like, I'm a singer.

[Rory]

Like, maybe when he tweeted out Coyote album of the year, which I think he has every right to do that, outside of that being his album, I think it could be a contender for album of the year. It's a phenomenal album. Maybe people replied and said rap album, but at that point, you didn't even label it as rap albums. Why are you upset about that?

[Maul]

Yeah, yeah. He just jumped out of there a little too prematurely and put his foot in his mouth. But I don't. I'm not going. You know, I see people online killing him, saying, oh, he wants to just use the culture now that he's his album's. Out now. He's trying to. It's. I don't. I'm not going to go that far. I'm not going to put all of that.

[Rory]

I'm not going to say that either. I think that's rough to put on someone's jacket off one sentence.

[Maul]

Yeah.

[Rory]

But I did think it was a. It was just weird.

[Maul]

No, it was definitely was weird and unnecessary.

[Rory]

But, I mean, I'm still. Still rooting for him. I still love the album. I look forward to hearing more from him. But I think. I think in this pop route that he is rightfully going to separate himself from the other ones. He's gonna have to go to hip hop. And it would make sense for him to go to hip hop because a lot of his music derives and that sounds from that. So I wouldn't. I wouldn't say you're not hip hop yet. You might need. Need hip hop soon.

[Maul]

Oh, no, for sure.

[Rory]

Post. Post came right back.

[Maul]

For sure.

[Rory]

They always come back.

[Maul]

They always come back to hip hop. Everybody. All of these artists at some point or another need hip hop. It just is what it is. It's the most influential art form on the planet. It is what it is. You need us, we got to stamp it, make it cool. The world likes you, wants hip hop, deems you to be cool.

[Rory]

So I do have maybe. Maybe a little conspiracy theory. Maybe whoever runs Tommy's socials also runs Beyonce socials and didn't switch accounts. And Beyonce meant to tweet out after Cowboy Carter got snubbed like, yo, I'm not hip hop.

[Maul]

I'm.

[Rory]

I'm country.

[Julian]

I'm country.

[Rory]

And maybe just the social media manager didn't switch the accounts.

[Maul]

Yeah, no, I could promise you Beyonce didn't mean to tweet that.

[Rory]

Should I go on, Piers Morgan?

[Maul]

No, you shouldn't say that shit right here. But congratulations to Beyonce. Cowboy Carter will now compete in the country category at the Grammys, which means, more than likely, Beyonce will win.

[Rory]

Well, I hope so. Congratulating someone for submitting to the Grammys is funny. Well, I mean, you didn't congratulate me.

[Maul]

Well, not. No, not submitting. They will now. She will now be categorized at the Grammys. You would just.

[Rory]

I mean, but what else would she be category? I mean, again, they did it to Tyler, but it's a straight up country album. It's labeled country.

[Maul]

Listen, man, it's stupid. It's crazy that the. The CMA didn't acknowledge Beyonce, which is. It's just stupid. But with. If the Grammys. The Grammys are doing this. It's more than likely either Beyonce is going to perform or they are going to give her the award. Either or.

[Rory]

I mean, I think with what happened with the CMAs, it would behoove the Grammys to lean into Beyonce being the absolutely country singer that she is.

[Maul]

Absolutely.

[Rory]

And have her perform, give her the award. Singles. Yeah. Roll it all out for ratings. It would make a lot of sense.

[Julian]

Roll it all out for sure.

[Rory]

Can you pull up what Luke Bryan said? Yeah.

[Julian]

And for those who aren't familiar, Luke Bryan is in, in the country world, I would say the equivalent of what Drake is to hip hop.

[Rory]

So he, he's the country Drake.

[Julian]

Basically. He did a statement with. Well, actually that would be probably more Morgan Wallen. It doesn't matter. He did an interview with Andy Cohen.

[Rory]

Country J. Cole or.

[Julian]

Well, Morgan Wan's the guy that's in the, the music video Drake did where the cars blew up with those two girls. The. What's the. You broke my heart. That's. Yeah, yeah. Anyway, Luke Bryant said a lot of musicians, a lot of Jesus, a lot of great music's overlooked. Sometimes you don't get nominated sometimes. Like I said, I mean, I think the cma, they have their voting body and they, they vote for what they think should make it. Everybody loved that Beyonce made a country album. Nobody's mad at it, but where things get a little tricky and you know, if you're going to make a country album, come into our world and be country with us a little bit. Like, don't like. Beyonce can do exactly what she wants to do. She's probably the biggest star in music. But come to an award show and high five us and have a fun night and get into the family too. And I'm not saying she didn't do that then any. Cohen said, I understand what you're saying.

[Rory]

Andy Cohen. I don't understand.

[Julian]

I don't get it either.

[Rory]

Well, what point do you think he was trying to make?

[Maul]

Well, I think what, what Luke was saying is that Beyonce is one of the, obviously one of the biggest stars in the world. We know that. But he was more so saying like maybe, you know, she didn't because Beyonce is not. She made a country album. Beyonce is not quote unquote, country music. I guess what he's trying to say, she's not a country music artist, but she's so talented. I'm just saying what Lou Bryan is probably trying to convey here, she's not looked at as a country artist because this is her first country album. She's already established as one of the biggest stars in the world.

[Rory]

Didn't she perform at the CMA's for Daddy's lessons off Lemonade with, like the Dixie Chicks? Yeah, that's a country song.

[Maul]

Country song and country artists are two different things, though.

[Rory]

Okay. Didn't they give Nelly an award?

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Tim McGraw, great song.

[Maul]

Well, Tim McGraw was on the record.

[Rory]

Dolly Parton is does the interludes.

[Maul]

We agree the album is coming, but I'm just saying I don't think they looked at her as okay. This is a country artist. So when you say the CMAs, the country music Awards is more so geared towards country artists. Now, granted, here's an amazing artist that is so great at what she does that she can even jump into the genre and create such a beautiful album that is of this culture and of this sound called country music. Country music is black, first of all. Music is black music. Let's just put that out there. But I think what Luke Bryant is saying is like, well, it almost didn't. It felt like she was just making an album, but didn't really want to fuck with the country genre and the other artists and just at the awards and nobody really had a relationship with her there. Like, it felt like a visitor that was just coming in made an album and they were supposed to just honor her when she's not really of this culture, I guess is what Luke Bryan.

[Rory]

I think he kind of like snitched on the CMAs and the politics of the CMA's the same way. The politics of the Grammys, VMAs, every bet, hip hop awards, politics everywhere when it comes to this award show. I think Beyonce on her album got the right features some big country names, some up and coming. I think she did a deep dive with the actual artists.

[Maul]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Of the country genre, which to me shows way more integrity that you appreciate this music than kikiing with the CMAs and saying, hey, if you will give you a nomination, but you have to come and present, you have to come and perform, you have to do what we tell you to do to get a nomination. I think that's kind of what Luke is saying, which is ass backwards to me, because I think she showed more integrity with the country genre by working with those artists and putting together this album than doing the politics shit. Luke saying, come high five us, go talk to the CMAs. Make sure you can dance for us. What would make that more her country than it would if she didn't? You're not more country because you play the politics of an award show.

[Maul]

Well, look at it like this.

[Rory]

How do they don't define country music.

[Maul]

How do we feel about when Macklemore won best hip hop album earned? Oh, what?

[Rory]

He thrifted it.

[Maul]

I'm just saying.

[Julian]

I take it from Kendrick, though.

[Maul]

So you can see how.

[Rory]

You can see how it wasn't just Kendrick.

[Julian]

Oh, that lineup. Jesus.

[Maul]

Jesus was insane. Insane.

[Rory]

Nothing was the same thing.

[Maul]

Kind of the same thing. People from hip hop looked at that like what? Like he's Macklemore. Ain't hip hop?

[Rory]

Well, first of all, I disagree. I think Macklemore is hip hop. I don't think he should have won, but I think he's hip hop.

[Maul]

Okay. So I'm just saying some. Most felt like. Most people felt like he wasn't. That was the thing.

[Rory]

Okay. But that had a lot to do with politics.

[Maul]

This may be this in reverse with the country music and they feel like, yo, Beyonce's not country. She's not a country artist.

[Rory]

I'm not Andy Cohen. So I can't comprehend Luke the way he can. I think what he's trying to say is she didn't play ball. She didn't do what CMAs wanted her to do for the country. Not for the country genre. For our show. For our show and for our advertisers.

[Maul]

Yeah. Come through, hang out with us, kick it with us.

[Rory]

And if you to be a country star, you have to play the country games.

[Maul]

Yeah. This is what you have to play.

[Rory]

And I think that's when she's actually putting on country artists that are up and coming and really getting into the country culture with the music. I thought that's what mattered.

[Maul]

Oh, no, we know that that's not what matters. Of course, the music doesn't just. We've been understood that there's no difference.

[Rory]

Between the Nashville Universal building and the New York Universal building. All politics. I get it.

[Maul]

Somebody told me Nashville is just white Atlanta. But that's the.

[Rory]

That's funny. No, it's.

[Julian]

Oh, it is natural.

[Rory]

It absolutely like white New Orleans.

[Maul]

Nice.

[Julian]

It's white Atlanta.

[Rory]

Okay, but.

[Julian]

But the thing. The thing I take issue with when you say come to an award show and high five was. It's like it reinstates the. You need the approval of. For you need like, you need the white man's approval to get into this, like, rodeo, so to speak. It's like you. You didn't go through the channels. The powers would be the white men you needed to shake hands with and make feel special. In order to earn our. Earn like our, you know, the passing of. Not even a passing of the torch, but like, earn our. You know, to deem you the. The very genre that you're already producing doesn't matter that you're making it. You could have made four of these fucking albums. You still need to get the. Do the things like Roy said, the dance for us, do the high fives, sit next to us, be seen with us to then be considered. Because you need to do it. It's not the fact that you do it. You have to do it on our terms. And they think that's like the. Which is annoying because we just got off the Tommy Richmond topic in the Post Malone thing. White people never have to do this in hip hop. They just don't.

[Maul]

Yes. It's funny that you said that, because I remember. I remember. I remember years ago, it was a thing that a lot of rappers and artists in hip hop, they were kind of like, had a little, like, looking at Eminem, a little funny. They're like, yo, he don't hang out with us. We don't see him. He don't kick it. When we had. It was the winter music conference, I remember for sure, they used to do wmc and they were saying like, yo, we don't even see him in them. Like, you don't. You don't see him. He don't. He's not kicking with all the artists. We not out here. We all of us here chilling together and it's like, we don't even. Nobody's ever even really had a conversation with that dude.

[Rory]

But I think M is probably the. The best example of the opposite. I think a lot of him not showing up to places is one, his actual personality and two, that he turned into like the biggest superstar period of that era. M, throughout his whole career, I think is the only white rapper, like a list white rapper that didn't go rock or didn't go full pop. Eminem has always been a rapper.

[Maul]

Yeah, no, for sure.

[Rory]

I think he's actually.

[Maul]

Rappers, like, some way about him.

[Julian]

He's someone I wouldn't be including in the examples of artists that. That I would be referring to. I know we just talked about him. I think he makes great music. But like, Post Malone would be the example of that. You come in, you. You not mock. I mean, you adopt the culture, the sound, the aesthetic, the everything. And then once you pop your number one, you get the Bieber cosign, you garner the.

[Maul]

I was more so speaking to Rory, saying about the CMAs they not feeling like Beyonce, like, was, you know, chummy, chummy with them and she's not hanging out with them and they don't know her and they haven't never had. Had a conversation with her, never met her, and here she makes this undeniable country album. We should be awarding her and nominating her for some country music awards, but we're not because we never seen her around the circles and never at the parties and never at the events and never at the.

[Julian]

I don't get.

[Maul]

I just feel like that's where it's.

[Rory]

Crazy back to like, him snitching on himself. I thought country, and correct me if I'm wrong, because I'm not part of that world. Isn't country supposed to be all about, like, the integrity, the grassroots? This is not the mainstream shit. This is the good old boys. This not the cities. Like, we are country. What the fuck does if you're going to make country albums, come into our world and be country with us a little bit mean when all you're referring to is political award show shit? Is Beyonce not from Houston, Texas?

[Maul]

Right.

[Rory]

Did she not grow up on the best?

[Maul]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Is that not. What does that mean? Come be country with. She grew up country.

[Maul]

Come say hi to us.

[Rory]

That's.

[Maul]

That's all it is.

[Rory]

Come play the game.

[Maul]

Say hi. Come to the. Come to the events.

[Rory]

Let's come up with a different scenario. Let's say there was an artist that was raised in the Bronx and did more of an R B pop style albums his whole career. And then one day was like, I think I want to make a hip hop album. If someone's like, what does he know about hip hop? I do think there is a deep rooted part of where you grew up.

[Maul]

What does he know about hip hop? Where's he from? He's from the Broad.

[Rory]

There's also plenty of people that grow up in areas that hip hop was created and live and breathe it that aren't hip hop. But an artist that grows up in that type of environment, I do think they get some type of grace. Like, okay, if Beyonce was at the rodeos every summer, like, we know Third Ward, Houston. We know her dad's background. Like, mm. Her mom's background. I think it's safe to say she's. She's country a little bit.

[Julian]

She's not even, like, it's even insane. You even have to. That is true. But also it's fucking Beyonce. And I'm not saying in the sense that like, she can do whatever the fuck she wants. There's no rules, which I guess is true as well. But I'm saying that in the sense that. Fuck the CMA's validation. Beyonce is also has a bunch of businesses, has children, has a whole life and career outside of she. Her career is her music. At least for this album, which was country. Like Rory said, she met with the country artists. She did the work, she did the research, she linked with everybody that made.

[Rory]

A real country out of what you.

[Julian]

Want her to do.

[Rory]

The whole rollout was her doing a deep dive in her family's history, and its. Exactly.

[Julian]

So it's like you're choosing to ignore all that shit that she clearly put in. The work, the research, the time, the effort. But because she didn't fucking shake your hand at a country award show, it's null and void. Like, you just say, she didn't do the fucking tap, though, the dance that you wanted her to do for you.

[Maul]

So she kept it so country. She created a whiskey line.

[Julian]

She a Jean Coll. Like, come on.

[Maul]

This is just like, she got Levi's on now, selling whiskey. That's country.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Rory]

I mean, just say you done it with Brett Far.

[Maul]

Yeah, well, that's why she wasn't invited to CMAs.

[Rory]

Brett Favre is still country.

[Maul]

Yeah. Oh, no, he's. He's the definition of country you need to diagnose.

[Rory]

I'm sorry, I'm repeating myself. How do we keep just letting that Brett Far slide?

[Julian]

He just got diagnosed with Parkinson's.

[Maul]

Would you want to shake your ass?

[Rory]

I was about to say, because he was shaking down a volleyball.

[Maul]

Take your ass to the bank and get them people back that money you talking about.

[Rory]

Don't shake down King over there.

[Maul]

How they said it coming to. Don't pull that falling down the stairs again. Your rents do. Hey, Britt, that money's due. Don't start shaking, Brett. Don't start shaking now. No, we need that money back to the people asap. Yeah. All that and, you know, prayers to everybody that is suffering from Parkinson's. But we not. Yeah, we not.

[Rory]

We're not giving you Michael J. Fox's shoes back there.

[Julian]

He still owes over 7.

[Maul]

I want him to sign my sneakers, man. I still need Michael J. Fox.

[Rory]

I'm Leave that one. Just leave it alone.

[Maul]

Just shut up, man. Every time I say that, that's what you say, like, yo, that's the joke is right there.

[Rory]

It's too easy.

[Maul]

I just. Shut up. It's too easy. This is.

[Julian]

I mean, I want to take the open layup.

[Rory]

I Want to work on my game?

[Julian]

I haven't seen this. This is, this is a side by side of people that of both former athletes.

[Maul]

Glenn Big baby Davis got 40 months in prison for a fraud scam. He did, you know, during the whole pandemic, I believe the NBA. He. He frauded the NBA out of 80,000, which is fucking. Frauding the NBA out of 80 grand is hilarious.

[Rory]

That's beer money on one side of the.

[Maul]

Yeah, that's, that's, that's. That's the halftime at one concession stand. And Brett Favre frauded Mississippi welfare recipients out of 700 grand. And he has not been charged as of yet. They both got caught around the same time. So again, we don't have to. You know. And I guess you can say one is. Maybe one's just a hall of fame and others. And maybe that's why. Maybe that's just the only issue here. Right? Maybe Brett's a hall of famer.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Maul]

Big Baby is not an NBA hall of famer. But you know.

[Rory]

Debatable.

[Maul]

Debatable. Yeah.

[Rory]

Maybe a Celtics fan would say that.

[Maul]

Yeah, I get it. I understand. But we gonna need that money. Brett.

[Julian]

Mall Halloween is coming up and. Is it. There's one costume that's been circulating on the timeline.

[Rory]

This is sick.

[Julian]

Have you seen this yet?

[Maul]

No. What is this?

[Julian]

It's a BBL Drizzy costume from Fashion Nova.

[Maul]

Wait, Fashion Nova's putting this out?

[Julian]

Yes.

[Rory]

40% off too. Wow.

[Julian]

Already? They just dropped.

[Rory]

Julian. Did you get passed for this gig?

[Julian]

Yeah, I was gonna say how sick would it be if I got.

[Maul]

You had to be the model for that?

[Julian]

Could you imagine? No, but yeah, this is a. This is a real thing. BBL booty butt pad costume is what the they call it, but it's very clear.

[Rory]

When was the last time you guys participated in Halloween? Like a costume party?

[Maul]

Oh, it's been years for me. It's been years. And I saw something on the timeline of kids like in costumes in the 80s and I was like, damn. Like that probably was like the last like right around like high school was like probably the last time I ever even participated in like dressing up and like that. I thought about doing it this year. Okay. Thought about getting like a real costume and like dressing up.

[Julian]

What would you want to be?

[Maul]

Huh? Do we. Yeah, I thought about it. I just don't know what I would be though. Like I would. I would want to be something like that. Nobody is. I don't. Because sometimes you go to Halloween parties And it's like 7:17 people are the same thing. And it's like, all right. Well, Pete said, I just don't know what I would be, though.

[Julian]

Pizza. We record on Halloween. We could do a group costume for that episode.

[Maul]

Like, from, like, a movie. Like, everybody dressed up as a character, something.

[Julian]

Yeah, I would do it.

[Rory]

The last time I. Well, outside of last year with Amara, last time I really participated in Halloween was, like, 2019, maybe, because I. I fake got canceled on the timeline.

[Maul]

Why'd you get canceled in 2019?

[Rory]

Remember when Lenny and Lala used to do their. Well, I think they still do their Hollywood.

[Maul]

Yeah.

[Rory]

So it was at Tao and you went blackface. You would have thought I did.

[Maul]

Would you put on.

[Rory]

It was very last minute.

[Maul]

I wasn't planning on going with the dreads hanging out. White boys. White boys love that. Y'all love to put a roster hat on.

[Rory]

It was last minute. I didn't have much. Like, I was like, all right. And why I love that, that Halloween party is they take it serious. Like, Lenny a lot. Like, yo, you gotta.

[Maul]

You gotta dress.

[Rory]

So this isn't like some industry. Let's just kick it. Like, you have to go all out. Let's make this fun.

[Maul]

Yeah.

[Rory]

So I was like. I'm like, I don't want to be the guy that just, like, goes and buys a Scream mask and walks in. So I was like, oh, I have this Queensbridge basketball tournament jersey. Prodigy had that on.

[Maul]

Okay.

[Rory]

I got the. The bandana. I was like, I'll go in the same fit Prodigy hat on, like, one of his iconic looks. Cool.

[Maul]

Nobody knew what's a hip hop thing. Nobody knew what you were.

[Rory]

I saw my son. He dabbed me, so I was like, I'm good.

[Maul]

Yeah.

[Rory]

My son ain't say nothing. So I felt okay.

[Maul]

Yeah, yeah, that.

[Rory]

Like, relieved a bit. And I guess, you know, people took photos and they ended up online to what Julian said. You would have swore I showed up in blackface. Everyone's like, yo, this. This is pretty much blackface. Like, he's dressed as a black man for Halloween. Like, no, my face was white as shit. I didn't.

[Maul]

I did. I missed.

[Rory]

I don't know if you'll be able to find it.

[Julian]

Yeah, I don't know.

[Rory]

I don't even think it was on Twitter. I think was Instagram where all the comments were. It was like, on the recap. But, yeah, you would have swore that I showed up in blackface. After that, I was like, I'm gonna take a break from Halloween.

[Maul]

Yeah. I thought about dressing up this year. This was, like, one of the first years where I was like, you know, I should probably dress up this year.

[Rory]

Like, just to pass out candy or go to a party.

[Maul]

Yeah. If it's a party. Or just walk around Manhattan. You know, Manhattan is flooded Halloween night. Every. It's every bar.

[Rory]

I put on a costume today, and it'd be fine.

[Maul]

Yes. New York people just walk right past you. Like, won't even ask any questions.

[Rory]

What? I don't know if I'll be able to top Amara's costume from last year.

[Maul]

What was Amara?

[Julian]

They were the Ghostbusters, right?

[Maul]

Yeah.

[Rory]

So we call her Marshmallow. So she was the Marshmallow, and then Key and I were the Ghostbusters. We went even down to the Ghostbusters Firehouse Fire, took photos, and that's dope. I don't know how we're gonna top that.

[Maul]

But now she got to be. You got somebody. Got to be Ms. Rachel. You might have to be Miss Rachel this year. It might have to be. Yeah.

[Rory]

What's that hippo that everyone loves?

[Julian]

Mo Mu Dang.

[Rory]

Mu Dang? Yeah.

[Julian]

Oh, my God.

[Rory]

I was trying to find, like, a little hippo costume for Mu Dang is.

[Julian]

The shit Moo Dang. My entire Twitter feed is Mu Dang.

[Maul]

Same Mu Dang.

[Rory]

I even. Who named the hippo Mu Dang when we were. Don't say that. Because we don't know what it translates to. You could sound racist.

[Maul]

No, I said, who? I'm just asking who named it that.

[Rory]

That's all the Asian culture.

[Maul]

Mudang Debuts New TEETH Debuts New Team.

[Rory]

When we were in London, I bought a T shirt.

[Maul]

Oh, my gosh.

[Rory]

But then I felt bad because I went on Twitter and it was one again, One of those Trust Me bro threads. Like, you have no idea if it's credible. They're saying we shouldn't support Mudang because that zoo is, like, even crazier than most zoos. Like, it's. They treat their animals like. And, like, why Mudang's behaving this way.

[Julian]

It's confused.

[Rory]

No, but I guess they're like. They're like Guantanamo when it comes to jails. Like, zoos are jails, but they go, I guess, a little extra with it. So they were saying, don't support Mudang. And her cute behavior is actually because she's abused.

[Maul]

She's actually stressed.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Maul]

Yeah. We shouldn't support anything.

[Julian]

Well, Mudang, she. She's in Thailand. She's. Wow. They live long. They're. Her mother's 25. Her father's 24.

[Rory]

They're the most dangerous animal in the world.

[Julian]

They're terrifying, but Mu Dang is the shit. I'm on board. Free Mudang.

[Maul]

Free Mu Dang. Yo. Free. Three to God.

[Rory]

But once, let's say we come up with a greater move.

[Maul]

Three.

[Julian]

Three to dang. Three to move.

[Maul]

Three to move.

[Rory]

So she fucking with the moo.

[Maul]

So she fucking with the moo.

[Rory]

All right, so if we come together with, like, an Ocean's Eleven plot to get Mu Dang out, then what do we do? Like, after we free the guy?

[Maul]

Yeah, man. We got.

[Rory]

Where are we going?

[Maul]

It's gonna be hard to get moved through customs. That's the only thing. How do we get moved to America?

[Rory]

Yeah, through the longshoremen.

[Maul]

Yeah, no, they'll definitely get it through. Moo has a sister. What's his sister's name?

[Julian]

I'm just Muan.

[Rory]

That's like you and your twin.

[Maul]

That's nothing like me. It is, though.

[Rory]

You guys have similar names.

[Maul]

Yes, but it's not Mudang and Muan. It's nothing like our name.

[Rory]

I'm not gonna say your sister's name on air. But it is.

[Maul]

It's nothing like it. Mu Dang and Muan.

[Rory]

Say your sister's name. I'm not gonna.

[Maul]

Jamala. That's something.

[Rory]

Come on, man. No, it sounds like mall.

[Julian]

It sounds like mall.

[Maul]

Oh. Oh, yeah, absolutely. But I'm just saying. I thought you were saying it sounds like MU1.

[Rory]

No, that their names are similar the same way you and your twins are.

[Maul]

Yeah. I mean, yeah, you're right in that part. I thought you were saying it sounds.

[Rory]

No.

[Maul]

No, it doesn't.

[Julian]

My thing with the Mu Dang craze is I'm all on board. But doesn't every baby hippo look like her? Why is she the. Is it because of her ridiculous temperament?

[Rory]

I guess.

[Maul]

I guess the attitude.

[Julian]

Because, like I was gonna say, they all just look adorable, and then they get big and ugly. Like, she's gonna get big and ugly and vicious. Yeah, she'll kill. Like, that would kill him.

[Maul]

Yeah.

[Rory]

That's not out of love.

[Julian]

If she was grown, that would kill him.

[Rory]

Before we get to voicemails, I want to say prayers to everyone that was affected by Hurricane Helene, especially in the Carolinas. That seemed to be the biggest place that got hit. I was reading today it's the New York Post, so who knows how accurate it is, but the feds are saying there isn't any money left to respond to the hurricanes, and I believe Kamala said That FEMA was paying 700 to the people that need it the most.

[Maul]

700.

[Rory]

And my thing is about like a year ago, remember when Biden did that one on one interview and they were like, you're spending a lot of money on Ukraine and Israel. And he was like, we're the United States. We'll never run out of money. Like, what, are you crazy?

[Maul]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Why would you even question me?

[Maul]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Okay.

[Maul]

We have our citizens in North Carolina that need.

[Julian]

Well, it's not a matter of having the money. It's about where you want to send it. We do have the money. We just sent 8 billion to Israel.

[Rory]

He legitimately said in that interview. So where the United States. Like what? Think we don't have the money?

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Okay.

[Maul]

Send 700 to the people of North Carolina and then send 700. 700 billion to. To Israel.

[Julian]

Yeah, we send 8 billion to just kill, you know.

[Maul]

Yeah. People.

[Julian]

So that's cool.

[Rory]

And also with.

[Maul]

Sounds about right.

[Rory]

With America, the country that has the highest spending in defense and armed forces. Man, I know they were late when it came to Hurricane Katrina. Why don't we have our US Forces helping everyone on the ground? Like, why is that not being utilized? We'll spend on jet flyovers for the nurses for Covid. Yeah, like, let's gas up some of those choppers. What are we doing? People are fucked up in our own country right now.

[Maul]

Oh, man.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Julian]

And to those that are like, you know, well, hurricane season happens every year.

[Rory]

So we should prepare for it better.

[Julian]

What's the Asheville. That's the. Right. The city that got hit the hardest. Well, that was. Seems to be affected the most. They're not used to. It's so inland that it's pretty uncommon for them to be hit this hard by. By a natural disaster. So no, this isn't. You know, it is new to. To a lot of these people and they, you know, have. Their homes are gone. Their whole life's been uprooted. So. Yeah, this is fucking awful.

[Maul]

Well, prayers to everyone affected by this hurricane because it wasn't just North Carolina. It was other for sure areas as well.

[Rory]

South in general.

[Maul]

Yeah, Hopefully. Hopefully this. This country does something to help its own citizens for once instead of helping and funding genocides across the world.

[Rory]

So what is it with hurricane relief that we're just not good at? How do we not learn from Katrina money? No, they don't care. We're the United States. We got it.

[Julian]

Well, then you always got to look at the tax frauds that come with every natural disaster. Every. Every tax corporation looks for ways out of paying.

[Maul]

Yeah.

[Julian]

For.

[Maul]

Oh, your house flushed away by.

[Rory]

Oh, now. Now all of a sudden, we care about tax fraud?

[Maul]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Rory]

Should we walk down the street to J.P. morgan and see if they care about it?

[Maul]

So it's Glenn Davis. Right. We got him. Put him in the slammer. Right.

[Rory]

But fema.

[Maul]

But Brett, you know, he's Parkinson's. I get it.

[Rory]

Very, very weird times that we're in. But I guess we can get to voicemails. Oh, no, I give a rest in peace.

[Maul]

Oh, rest in peace to legendary actor, iconic figure. Definitely was one of the. The first figures I remember being a kid seeing on TV all the time. Rest in peace to Mr. John Amos. He passed away. It's. It's being reported that he may have passed away end of August, I think they said, like, August 24th, but the family didn't find out until we found out. It's. It's. It's a weird. A weird thing around this whole, you know, passing of Mr. John Amos.

[Rory]

But, yeah, the facts are fuzzy right now.

[Maul]

The bottom line is that he. He passed away. So we want to send prayers and condolences to the family of Mr. John Amos and thank you for all of your iconic roles, iconic moments on TV and film. You know, he really upheld the position of a strong black figure in the household, taking care of his family for a lot of people growing up. So we want to say thank you and prayers to him and his family.

[Rory]

Absolutely. And my last comment, I want to give a you to everyone that said that picture of Julius Randall and DiVincenzo was mall. And I. Man, y'all, you don't see the similarities.

[Maul]

I can see I do it right.

[Rory]

How did he even get. My dad texted it to me. Like, that's how far that picture has gone now.

[Maul]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Of like, oh, that's Rory and Maul. Yeah, that was up. Inserted here in the video.

[Maul]

Still waiting for my guy, Julius to hit me, man. I know he's, you know, he got a lot going on right now, moving and trying to get settled in, but I'm happy for him, man. I'm happy. He seems to be happy to be in Minnesota and they have a. The Timberwolves got a really, really bright future. Young team, young nucleus. And then adding an all star and veteran player like Julius and a good young player like Dante Divicenzo. They. They. Timber was gonna make some noise for some years. They're gonna be right there. Anthony Edwards, Rudy Goldberg, they got some nice pieces over there, man.

[Rory]

Yeah, I mean with, with the trades. Even though they made me sad, I'm happy that Demon, Chenzo and Randall are going to a good team. Hartenstein. I'm glad. I wasn't glad to see him leave, but I'm happy he's on a team that's like a contender and yeah, yeah, at least they didn't get traded to like some bum ass teams off what was such an amazing squad.

[Maul]

Yeah.

[Rory]

So I'm happy for him.

[Maul]

It's gonna be a good year. I think this, this NBA season is gonna be fun to watch. It's gonna be a fun year to watch. Klay Thompson and Kyrie and Luka are now on the same. So it's gonna be some, you know, some. A lot of big names, big, big players have moved to different cities, different teams. So you know, the deck has been shuffled a little bit. So it's gonna be fun to watch this season.

[Rory]

What's, what's going to be your move now with the ladies? You can't do courtside anymore.

[Julian]

Yeah, bring it to Minnesota.

[Rory]

That could be ill.

[Maul]

I'm going crazy. Minnesota.

[Rory]

I'm going to clean up.

[Maul]

I'm going to be the Minnesota.

[Rory]

Take him to Paisley.

[Maul]

They're going to call me Minnesota Fats. You know, when I get done with that city, baby, Julius better not tell me to come out there and come to some games. Don't do that because I'll turn the city upside down. Don't do that.

[Rory]

You're going to fly them out.

[Maul]

It'll be Prince and then me on the list. Minnesota.

[Rory]

Forget about Atmosphere. Only Peach got that joke.

[Julian]

I love atmosphere.

[Rory]

Never mind. Only Julian got the joke.

[Julian]

Shout out the rhyme Sayers. I'm a big Atmosphere fan.

[Rory]

Slug. I think it's Slug. Yeah, I with a few Atmosphere songs.

[Julian]

Great.

[Rory]

Yeah, they were dope.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Maul]

That's a group from God Loves Ugly.

[Rory]

Oh yeah. That was a great album.

[Julian]

Great record. Yeah.

[Rory]

You know I'm joking, but Atmosphere.

[Julian]

Atmosphere's fire. Evidence is evidence from no Evidence was.

[Rory]

Part of Dilated Peoples and their from la.

[Julian]

No, the white evidence from Evidence.

[Rory]

There's one evidence that's a rapper. He's from Los Angeles and he was part of Dilated.

[Julian]

He's from la.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Julian]

Damn.

[Rory]

Venice.

[Julian]

Oh well, he ran with the rhymes here and I know that was like Brother Ali, like ASAP Rock. Like that was the whole. Yeah. Atmosphere.

[Rory]

I remember when Maul and I were doing like our first official episode, like after the response and all that. We were in Alchemist's studio recording it and I Looked to the right and I was like, is that evidence? I wonder if he knows how big of a fan I am.

[Julian]

What is slug up to him? Just.

[Rory]

That was the most random first episode. Earl Sweatshirt Justice. Evidence is out in the hallway with his daughter. Al is in frame, but not on the pod.

[Maul]

It's crazy times, man. We was just going. Just trying to figure. I love it out. We just going, man.

[Rory]

We recorded for, like, eight hours that day. Because then we did a whole separate Al episode. We did a hop episode. Yeah, that was. Those were interesting times, man.

[Maul]

Great times.

[Rory]

Well, yeah, let's get the voicemails.

[Julian]

Yeah, let's start. Let's start with a fun one.

[Maul]

You've got mail. What's going on, pa? Big fan of the show. My name is Nick.

[Julian]

I'm calling from la.

[Maul]

Don't really need advice because I'm pretty.

[Julian]

Sure I know how I'm gonna handle.

[Rory]

This situation, but I would love to.

[Maul]

Hear what you guys would do in my shoes. So I was previously engaged to a girl, got her name tattooed on me. Didn't work out. You know what I'm saying? Now I'm in a new relationship, and the girl I'm dating now, I mean.

[Julian]

Obviously I agree I should get it covered up, but she's more so on the lines of, hey, if you got.

[Maul]

Her name tattooed on you, what's so.

[Julian]

Bad about getting my name tattooed on you? And that's kind of like, yeah, not.

[Maul]

Really trying to make that same mistake twice. You know what I'm saying? But she's not really understanding of that. So, yeah, what.

[Julian]

What would you guys do in my situation? Would you, you know, go around and.

[Maul]

Do that same mistake again?

[Julian]

Or, you know, stand your ground and, you know, do what you know is not right?

[Rory]

Well, shout out to Nick the worst security guard in movie history. You guys can figure that out on your own. You just have to get that girl's name tatted. And if you up again, just keep getting it recovered like, you've entered this world now. Any chick that you fuck with, you have to get their names added and just start thinking of ways to cover it up.

[Maul]

That's your advice to Nick?

[Rory]

He cannot go to her and be like, yo, I'm not trying to make the same mistake twice by getting you tatted on. And then I have to cover it up.

[Maul]

Nick, here's what you should do, Nick. You should tell her that that lady that is tatted on your arm has died in this past.

[Julian]

Oh, that's him.

[Maul]

And then tell her, if you want me to get your name tatted on you. You have to pass away first. Just say your ex is dead. Yeah.

[Rory]

You don't think that his new girl knows exactly who the ex is? Knows her IG profile, knows her sign, knows her daily routine. She knows that girls a lot.

[Maul]

I'm saying, like, you get the name tatted once, that. That relationship is dead to you.

[Rory]

Oh, got you.

[Maul]

Yeah. She's dead. Like, I don't. Yeah. Like, this is not a resting.

[Rory]

It's a graveyard.

[Maul]

Yeah. This is like, yo. This is, you know, in remembrance. Exactly. Exactly. That's how you do that, Nick.

[Rory]

Or what could be funny. Maybe just get, like, the angel wings around her name to, like, show that it's a. It's over.

[Maul]

That really. That really symbolizes death. Right. When you kill the angel wings around.

[Julian]

The name, I wonder where it is and how. How big the. The tattoo is, too. Like, is this something his girl would see regularly or how would this affect. I don't.

[Maul]

Like, I never understood getting somebody's name.

[Julian]

I think it's awful.

[Maul]

Like, if it's not, like, family is crazy. If it's family they know, of course, you know, but, like, just somebody that you met and fell in love with and you're with, your dating is like, that's just a bit.

[Rory]

And I don't even have that, like, egotistical gene where I would want a girl to have my name and, like, even feel better, like, after we break up. Like, yeah, but my name's tatted on you. Like, not. We broke up for a reason. I don't want to be part of this.

[Maul]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Don't walk around with my brand on you.

[Maul]

Yeah. Don't do that.

[Julian]

Yeah. Am I wrong for saying this? I don't want to judge his girl. I'm sure. I'm sure his girlfriend's great. I would look at her differently if she said, why don't you get my name tatted on you?

[Maul]

I don't think she really. Well, I don't know her, but I don't. Women will say that just to hear your response. They might not really want you to do it, but they'll just say it.

[Julian]

Like the cardi b thing all over again.

[Maul]

Exactly.

[Rory]

It's the exact same thing.

[Maul]

Exact same thing.

[Rory]

Something is entering you.

[Maul]

Yeah.

[Rory]

A needle.

[Maul]

This ink is entering your.

[Julian]

No, I mean, in the sense that she'll say something so. Well, in Cardi's case, so egregious just to get his response. Even though she didn't do the act, she just wanted to see how he would react.

[Maul]

Yeah, she doesn't really want him to do it, but she just wants to see the reaction.

[Rory]

All right, roles reversed. Let's say that's not, like, really your girl like that, but you're talking to a girl, and she has an ex's name tatted on her, but she's like, I'm gonna get it covered up. Just trying to figure out what I want to do. I just don't want to get it covered up for the fuck of it. So I'm taking my time. How would y'all feel in that situation?

[Maul]

How much time you need? Tattoo shop is open right now. I know a guy.

[Julian]

I got a needle.

[Maul]

Yo, grin.

[Rory]

You work.

[Maul]

You open.

[Rory]

Taking the Bronx right now.

[Maul]

I hit grin immediately. Yo, grin. That needle. That needle on right now. You got to talk the girl like the grill at the deli. Like, yo, you turn the needle off, we getting this shit done tonight. Cover that shit up.

[Julian]

I think I have a workaround. You say, I'm. I learned I don't want to get a name. Like, I'm done getting the names on me. Think of a much better way to explain that. But say, hey, I'm open to us getting matching tattoos. So at least it's like, I'm not mad at that. If it's, like, on the corny side of things, like, half a heart on his finger and she has the other half on hers, and when you put them together, it's like, a thing. Go that route.

[Rory]

Just buy the necklace.

[Julian]

As culpable as you are, you don't want to take all the own. Put her body at risk.

[Rory]

Her body at risk.

[Julian]

Put some ink on your something.

[Maul]

Just do what everybody does. Buy.

[Rory]

Are you getting tattooed? Rikers. Like, putting her body, like, why does. It's a very safe thing now.

[Julian]

No, I'm saying, why does he keep having to bear, like, the mistakes and, like, the. The maybe this will work out.

[Maul]

Put. If.

[Julian]

You know, if you're. If you're in it and you're in it as a couple, do it together.

[Maul]

Nick. Buy a Frenchie. That's how you get. That's how you shut them up. Buy a little French.

[Rory]

Yeah, I guess.

[Maul]

Get a one with the gray coat and the blue eyes. They love that one.

[Julian]

Yeah, that is a great dog.

[Maul]

They love that, though. They love that French.

[Rory]

Then you don't have to get covered up. You can just keep.

[Maul]

Keep the name don't even matter. Once you buy the Frenchie. She don't even see that tattoo no more.

[Rory]

That's hilarious.

[Maul]

Yeah.

[Rory]

I mean, but would Y'all ever date a chick that had a guy's name tattooed?

[Maul]

I've dated women that had their. Their ex boyfriend's names tatted on.

[Rory]

How did you feel about it?

[Maul]

I mean, I didn't feel. I thought. I used to laugh at it. Like, you know, you're walking around with his name just on you, like, forever, and it was same thing. Like, no, I'm getting it covered up. And then she did. She did eventually get a nice cover piece.

[Rory]

Where was it located?

[Maul]

On her back.

[Julian]

Oh, yeah, most of those. Like. Yeah, like, back.

[Rory]

So what was that? Like, lights off all the time.

[Julian]

You put some duct tape over it.

[Maul]

But it was a.

[Rory]

Of all things to cover during sex.

[Maul]

Duct tape.

[Rory]

Taking out duct tape. I know. You're a serial killer.

[Julian]

Yeah, gaffer tape.

[Maul]

Like, he had duct tape.

[Rory]

You're gonna be in those Puff files. I'm positive.

[Maul]

Julius.

[Julian]

I was too young. Well, actually.

[Maul]

Were you?

[Julian]

Yes.

[Maul]

You would have been an hors d'oeuvre. That's what you.

[Julian]

That's what I'm saying. Yeah.

[Maul]

For. Yeah, you.

[Rory]

With political ties. Things are adding up. It all goes back to the political ties.

[Maul]

Come here, you. They would have destroyed you, Jul. They would have annihilated you had you gone to Love Island. That's what he called it. No, just calling his house. Wasn't it Club Love? That's what he was just calling Pops.

[Julian]

I think talking about Epstein's.

[Maul]

No, Club Love. That's what Puff was just calling his crib last year. It's a lot of you. Instagram, that was dead too. Like, y'all. Y'all real quiet now.

[Rory]

Oh, yeah.

[Maul]

Like y'all trying to rebrand yourselves. You is going to. Going to become Muslim now. Yeah, no, I know you gonna be.

[Rory]

Puff about to, too.

[Maul]

Yeah, y'all gonna be in court with your. With your jobs on. Yeah. All of y'all, out of here. Nasty.

[Rory]

Which gang do you think Puff's gonna join?

[Maul]

Which gang? Yeah, man, I don't know what game he gonna join.

[Julian]

You gotta go Noi.

[Maul]

No way. It would never take him. You kidding me with that jacket? No way.

[Julian]

Put money on the books.

[Maul]

No way. Not a chance at hell.

[Rory]

No. That. That one's gonna be tough.

[Maul]

There's no way. He better not call Farrakhan that.

[Rory]

Well, TD Jakes was the only one that was, like, defending him. But there's not really he in the video. I think. I think the Aryan Brotherhood's Christian.

[Maul]

Yo, Puff joining the area Brotherhood is crazy.

[Julian]

I got more in common with them anyway.

[Maul]

That's A fact.

[Rory]

I would do so bad in prison because I have nothing in common with the Aryan Brotherhood. But, like, your whole.

[Julian]

Your aesthetic checks out. Like, you can't.

[Maul]

No, but you could act like you Mexican, though.

[Julian]

Yeah, but maybe doesn't speak.

[Rory]

Once they check, like, my files, which I think is pretty easy in prison, and they find out that I'm 97% European.

[Julian]

His name is Rory Farrell.

[Rory]

I was adopted.

[Maul]

I was adopted. I was born in Tijuana.

[Rory]

Because I feel like if the Aryan Brotherhood, like, saw me go with another group, they would target me even more.

[Maul]

Oh, for sure.

[Rory]

But then, like, for my own safety, that would just be weird at lunch. Like, we wouldn't have a lot to talk about. I disagree with a lot of their politics.

[Maul]

How much you think the Aryan Brotherhood would pay for you in prison? You look like you worth about ten packs of smokes.

[Rory]

Really?

[Maul]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Oh, I appreciate that.

[Maul]

Ten packs of marbles.

[Julian]

That's a lot.

[Maul]

I think I have rules.

[Rory]

Well, which prison?

[Maul]

San quentin.

[Rory]

Give me 15 at least make me feel a little better about it.

[Julian]

What if you said, I'll be a mole for you guys, so I'll hang out with all the black people and the Mexicans and I'll just list it on the intel and send it back to you guys. But you would just. I don't just be hanging out with.

[Maul]

Oh, you don't know what happened to people like that in prison.

[Rory]

And I. I mean, I appreciate your confidence.

[Maul]

You've seen the Kendrick video, you've seen the pinata, right? That'll be Rory hanging off the third tier.

[Rory]

How confident of a mold do you think I would be? I would. My tell would happen immediately. I'd be so nervous at that table, like, hey, hey, Crips. What y'all working on?

[Maul]

We got another one.

[Julian]

Yeah, let's do it. This is. This is a good one too.

[Maul]

Yo, what's cracking, gang? My name O.J. i'm from Chicago. I want to give a quick shout out to Rory, Ma, Julian, Baby D, the whole crew. Love the podcast, love the content. Keep it coming.

[Rory]

Pause.

[Maul]

Anyway, I was calling cause I'm a little conflicted right now. So I got these two best friend of mine that are low key beefing and it's all over Shorty. So let me break it down for you real quick. So we gonna call this Shorty K. Okay. So K started off as best friends with my homie Elf. And my guess is that my homie Elf cracked. Cause she be in love with him type shit. And I guess my homie F Introduced her to me and my homie O. And her and my homie O hit it off well. And they became like best friends and shit. Like, I'm talking about. Like, they talk on the phone and like, text each other and like that, like wheat, like every. Almost every day type from what I heard. Right? So anywho, basically my homie O caught feelings, and I guess shorty caught feelings for my homie o.2. Okay. But mind you, though, she. She want my homie F real bad. But my homie F is a boy, you feel me? He just. He just be wanting her. Cause she be available too much. You feel me? Like, whenever he can't get his dick wet or whatever, he'll call her. He know he could get his dick wet with her type. But my problem is this is causing, like, an issue between them two. And I just want to know, what would y'all do in this situation? Type.

[Julian]

All right, I took notes.

[Rory]

Okay. No, I think I followed off that spelling bee.

[Julian]

Jesus. He has a lot of letters. Real names would have been easier, right?

[Rory]

Just make up different names.

[Julian]

There we go. All right, here's the scenario.

[Maul]

So he's in between F and O and K. Love triangle.

[Julian]

Yes.

[Rory]

So he's asking what he should do or what they should do.

[Maul]

Well, he's asking.

[Julian]

That's the only intervene. No. Yeah, he's saying, like, do I bear the responsibility or like, should I say anything or who should what? Basically, what should he do? What should his next step be?

[Maul]

By Frenchie with blue eyes.

[Rory]

Yeah, Maybe tat K on him to see if K would fuck and just she could get the cycle.

[Julian]

Because of a quick recap, there's a lot going on. So F and K met first.

[Rory]

Yes.

[Julian]

We don't know if F hooked up with K yet. In that process of them becoming friends, O and K meet. O and K become fast friends. They have long phone calls, they get a little rhythm together. And now there's potential that they might hook up. And then F. The first guy, according to our caller, is a fuckboy. So he just hits K on a late night thing. She slides, he wrecks, they go home. Da, da, da, da da. That's where we're at.

[Rory]

I love that he said he wasn't sure if. If F had beat yet. And then at the end was like. He just calls it when you want to get it. I was like, all right. Well, yeah, clearly he's beat.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Rory]

I think he should tell his friend O, who seems like the nice guy that really likes K, that he should leave that Alone. Because K is settling for oh at this point and really just wants to be with the toxic guy. That's what it is. She's one of those that you can't tame her yet. She wants to be with the. She's more attracted to that. She's more attracted to the guy hitting her up at 4am that treats her like, yeah, you should talk to your friend. Oh, and say she's still currently for the streets.

[Maul]

Let the streets.

[Rory]

I don't think she's ready for these feelings that is going on. And she probably doesn't really have feelings for you. She just likes that you're convenient and will do nice things for her when F won't. But if F text, it's over. Yo, yo, I gotta leave.

[Maul]

Yeah, you're an option. I think you're an option.

[Rory]

It's also fucked up. I think he's kind of talking about himself because he said his name was O.J. i think he's O in this scenario. I don't think that's a friend.

[Julian]

I'm just be honest with you, Kaiser Soza over here.

[Rory]

I think O is the one. OJ the guy talking is the one that has feelings for K and knows that his man's just dogging it out when he wants, but he caught feelings. You got to leave that girl alone, bro. She's not ready. She's not ready.

[Julian]

Leave on the streets, but stay friends with her. You don't have to, like, write her out of your life. Just be cool with her. That's cool. That's.

[Rory]

But. But don't be friends with her in hopes that, like, this is a phase.

[Maul]

Yeah, no, don't. Don't do that.

[Julian]

This is a phase.

[Maul]

You're gonna end up hurting that situation.

[Rory]

Get it out of your system, K. Yeah, it's clear what she's attracted to, and it's toxic bullshit. Which is fine because we've all been there. A lot of girls have been there. But you shouldn't wife them when they're in that phase.

[Maul]

No, just let it go. Gotta elevate, man. You gotta take yourself out of that pool of just being an option and putting yourself through the ring of just, you know, sleeping around and shit. Have some. Have some dignity.

[Rory]

I love that he really told himself, like, that guy that's like, yo, this friend of mine is going through something.

[Maul]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Yo, my name's O.J. from Chicago. So my friend O is.

[Maul]

We, like, the same things. We hang out at the same time.

[Rory]

I'm O.J. he's just O, though.

[Maul]

Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know. I hear you, fam.

[Julian]

Should we do one more? I feel like I've picked without Damaris here. I feel like I'm just doing very manually. Manually toxic ones.

[Rory]

That's fine.

[Julian]

This last one will be the. The most toxic of the three.

[Maul]

Yo, what's up, Roy Maul, Julian, Baby.

[Julian]

D.

[Maul]

I have a question. Oh, love the show, by the way.

[Rory]

Thank you.

[Maul]

Love everybody.

[Julian]

Pray y'all safe and stuff.

[Rory]

Thanks.

[Maul]

I got a question. Starts off, what happened? What happened to the big that could suck dick?

[Julian]

I.

[Maul]

I have been in a relationship for context. I've been in a relationship for five years, and I just got out of it earlier this year.

[Rory]

So he was like, where the fabric.

[Maul]

Is at, you know, Build my roster back up. You know, when I was single, it was 2019. It was different out here, man. But, like, I always kept at least one big one, bro. At least one big one. I respect the honesty, bro, because she was a head doctor, you feel me? But I know what he talking about. Not the case anymore. I don't know what happened to the game I love. Can y'all tell me if I'm, like, looking in the wrong places? I live in Texas.

[Rory]

Behind the wall.

[Julian]

Sexy heavies out there, there in Texas. Yeah, let's keep going.

[Maul]

That. That's never been a problem. But, like, now it's like I keep coming across these big women, man, and it's not like I'm chubby chasing. Bro, please do not do.

[Rory]

But how you describe it sounds like you are.

[Maul]

I. I just try to keep one on there, man. They. They just can't suck dick no more, man. I don't know. Can y'all let me know if I'm tripping, man, Please?

[Julian]

All right.

[Rory]

I love that he came to this realization because he let a couple fat chicks give him a head, and he was like, well, this is different.

[Julian]

This is in 2019. Head.

[Rory]

They're not slurping it up the way they used.

[Julian]

Also calling about calling a New York based podcast for. For how to get ahead in Texas from fat women.

[Rory]

I mean, that was always a stereotype forever. I think generation to generation, your girls can give head. Yeah.

[Maul]

Oh, no, they can.

[Rory]

I agree.

[Maul]

They treat you like a fucking corn on a cob. They'll put that shit in between any crevice on their body and lots of proof spit on it.

[Julian]

All right, well, where. Where would you recommend. Where would you recommend he goes to find these type of women?

[Rory]

Texas.

[Maul]

He said Texas.

[Rory]

The second biggest kid in the country.

[Maul]

That has the most that's like being in. That's like being in Foot Locker saying you can't find any sneakers. Like, what are you talking about?

[Rory]

That's like me going up to Dyckman. Like, mo. Where can I find a Dominican?

[Maul]

Yeah, like, are you kidding me? You in Texas, bro. Like, they are there. I don't know the women you're picking or the girls you're meeting, but it's some. It's some sexy heavies out there.

[Rory]

He has to reevaluate. I guess maybe he's picking heavies in a different way. I don't think the game changed that much from 2019. I've been out the game.

[Maul]

I didn't change. You know what it is? He's okay. What age group is he looking at? Like, you gotta go. If you're looking for one that's more experienced with her mouth, you gotta. You gotta stay in the older demo. That's an older demo game. Yeah. You'll find some young. Some young. Some young, you know, I mean, like rookies that they know how to shoot.

[Julian]

They have promise.

[Maul]

They know how to shoot. But it's like, you need a vet. You need a vet that's going. She's not gonna play no games with you. She know what you want. She know how you like it. Lot of spit bubbles. She gonna get right to it. These little. The young pretty ones, they too cute to get, you know, some of them, you. You might. You gonna find a young one that she. She was raised right. But get you an older one. You gotta find an older one. Yeah.

[Rory]

I didn't catch any of that, but.

[Maul]

I agree about it.

[Rory]

You know that like, the. The girl that was ugly her whole life and then glowed up. And you catch her when she doesn't realize, like, she's a bad. Now she's still moving like the ugly girl. Like she has personality. She's funny. Kind of let anyone hit.

[Maul]

Yeah.

[Julian]

Moving like the ugly girl. She has personality.

[Rory]

Yeah. No, she. She fights for her meals like she's crap. She's. No, she's actually a good human. She's a good human being. She doesn't know she's a bad bitch yet because she was treated like an ugly chick her whole life.

[Maul]

Yeah.

[Rory]

And had a crazy glow up, which happens often. Those are the best women.

[Maul]

Yeah.

[Rory]

That were ugly for a while because again, they had to actually fend for their food.

[Maul]

Right.

[Rory]

With Ozempic. Now, people are not bringing this up.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Rory]

The positives of it. A lot of those chicks were big chicks that move like big Chicks. But now the Ozempic has turned them into bad, so they're still giving head like the fat chick that used to be.

[Maul]

Oh, yeah.

[Rory]

No one talks about the good side of. Of Ozempic. It's having a lot of of like cookie monsters just out in the streets looking amazing.

[Maul]

Because they still fat on the inside.

[Julian]

Yes, because you can't. That takes years of therapy.

[Maul]

You gotta lose that. You gotta.

[Julian]

Yeah, but how does he identify the former heavies? Yeah, look like they're arms.

[Rory]

I feel like Ozemping must be running rampant.

[Maul]

You just drop chicken on the floor.

[Rory]

You have to do research and watch shallow how they come right to it. This is why we need demerit. I'm sure all of this is really offensive.

[Maul]

It's just for entertainment.

[Julian]

We don't need any of it.

[Rory]

This is immature entertainment purposes only. We're all in our 30s, 40s. We shouldn't be doing this.

[Maul]

They all do Internet Friday every time I hit refresh.

[Rory]

Is it talking behind her back if we're recording? I don't think it is.

[Maul]

I would say it like, matter of fact, let me. Hey, Damaris, they killing you right now.

[Rory]

Go to camera one.

[Maul]

They killing you right now on the Internet, but you standing on business. Actually, she not not. It's just for anything. No, it ain't. It's because when they was killing me in April, May for my Drake, I was a dick sucker. Dick Rider, glaze, all that.

[Rory]

I didn't bring up Target once.

[Maul]

I didn't get on it. Yeah, I didn't get on the Internet one time and say, oh, it's just for entertainment. Nah, stand on your big box of business. Don't do that.

[Rory]

I still have teacher unions coming after me.

[Maul]

Oh, for the damn.

[Rory]

That wasn't entertainment. I feel like teachers should cover up.

[Julian]

You should tell them it's entertainment.

[Maul]

Yeah, see, you didn't tell them it was just for entertainment.

[Rory]

I think the teachers stop entertaining mall.

[Julian]

When's the last time you got head from one of these?

[Maul]

From a heavy.

[Julian]

From a heavy heathen.

[Maul]

Oh, yeah. It's been a while. It's been a while. From a sexy heavy. It's been a while. But the sexy heavies is out there, though. I love them.

[Rory]

Yo, I guess we could talk. We can talk about this on. I don't care if Maul denies it. A couple Atlanta trips ago, Ma tried to send a sexy heavy my way, like a couple floors down. Who was asking about me? I said, mom going the to sleep.

[Julian]

You try to bring it through the door.

[Maul]

Me.

[Rory]

He was trying to be a good friend because there was a sexy heavy.

[Maul]

She was asking me about where. She said, where's Rory? So I'm like, oh, okay. Like, I got me call my guy, let him know that somebody's looking for him.

[Rory]

And then you brought up who it was. And again, sexy heavy.

[Maul]

Sexy heavy.

[Rory]

I wasn't in that place in my life, sleep. It could have been anyone, and I would have been. No, but there was. In the back of my mind, to this gentleman's point, I was like, I know that girl would come down here, slurp my entire.

[Maul]

She would have blew your socks off. She would have blew your.

[Rory]

I would have left as a transgender.

[Maul]

Yeah, yeah. You would have said the N word the next morning for sure. She would have blew. She would have blew you into racism for sure.

[Rory]

I would have smelled like maple syrup after she left.

[Maul]

You don't even know. She was talking crazy. That's why I called. I was like, wait, nah. I would be a hater if I don't call.

[Rory]

What was so funny, Peach Julie? You guys have both been on the road with Maul multiple times. Mall don't call nobody. Especially at 2am I'm laying in my bed like, I think someone died. Like, you when you get that call, like, okay, what. What happened? Something has to be wrong.

[Maul]

She was looking for the Pharaoh, bro.

[Rory]

And he said, redacted name. I was like, nah, man, I'll go to sleep.

[Maul]

She was. She was standing on big business. Like, she was standing in front of me. Like, this is what I The. I was on the phone. You remember how they had. You remember how they had JoJo Simmons on the phone? And homie had his.

[Rory]

Yo, and this is how thorough. This is how thorough both those sexy heavies were the next morning, without me knowing that they even had my number. They started a group chat with me and Maul and said, sorry, our schedules didn't match. Can we take y'all to dinner tonight, man?

[Julian]

Damn. That would've been fire. Bust down some wings.

[Maul]

She was about her business. She was looking for the red rocket. You hear me? He was like, yo, she wanted to know what floor the red. Listen, yo, if Rory lucky I didn't know his room number. Cause I would have sent her down. I'd have like, he right there on seven, gang. Go get him.

[Rory]

My ass would have been asleep. Knocking like, yo, I don't need towels. Was like, yo, who the is this? Look through the people like, all right, man. Cuz they were aggressive at the show. Oh, man, I didn't know. They made it. Which isn't the first time that we can't figure out how women have made it to the hotel room.

[Maul]

Yeah, that always seems to happen.

[Rory]

We. I know it's bad timing with everything going on, but men. I feel like we need to bring some women to the podium.

[Maul]

No, no, no.

[Rory]

How did. How does some of y'all end up at a hotel room?

[Maul]

No, no, I'm not gonna do it. They came back. No, no, they all came back to my room.

[Rory]

I'm more so talking. They were cool.

[Maul]

Yeah. Yeah, they all came back.

[Rory]

And in our time on the road, there has been times where I'm like, who is. How are you in this lobby already?

[Maul]

Yeah, who are you?

[Rory]

Like, we're not. We're not B2K. Like, the fuck is. How'd you find our hotel address?

[Maul]

Sexy Heavy was on you.

[Rory]

Or that one time shorty was in the elevator in la?

[Maul]

Oh, that's a.

[Rory]

But we. We figured that. We figured that out. We did that treasure map.

[Maul]

Yeah, we figured that out. Tickets available now newroariamall.com we will be in Toronto October 17th. We will be in Atlanta, November. Atlanta, November 22nd.

[Rory]

No, no.

[Maul]

And we. And we will be in New York City.

[Rory]

Let me find that. Group chat.

[Maul]

December 14th. Get your tickets now. Hope to see y'all soon. Let's have some fun. All right, fellas, well, time for us to go enjoy our week and do the things that we like to do in our own free time.

[Julian]

You guys got plans?

[Rory]

Wally concert, Irving Plaza, Saturday.

[Maul]

Might be people there I don't want to see. I'm not going to that.

[Rory]

Like, who?

[Maul]

You know who. Anyway, wait.

[Rory]

I really don't know.

[Maul]

Shout out to Wale. That's my, you know, shout out to Lay.

[Rory]

I'm really confused.

[Maul]

I didn't mean to make it weird. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Damn it, Peach. I'm sorry. Peach.

[Rory]

Who would be there?

[Maul]

I will keep it.

[Julian]

Say it later.

[Maul]

But yeah.

[Julian]

Rory.

[Rory]

Are you talking about Wale?

[Maul]

No. Well, I would hope.

[Julian]

J. Cole.

[Maul]

I see you trying to paint this narrative, by the way.

[Rory]

I have no information. I've not spoken to anyone. I do kind of think that he might bring Cole out because Cole is in New York for the most part. I don't know if he's here now, but he's been in New York for the last six months. I could see Cole coming out especially fine.

[Maul]

Yeah, that's cool.

[Julian]

Especially after the. You guys started. Rory.

[Rory]

What? Last time.

[Maul]

Rory. Yeah. So Wally could rap better than Cole.

[Rory]

It was for entertainment purposes.

[Maul]

Of course it was.

[Julian]

Who needs Target groceries for entertainment purposes only?

[Rory]

Yo, I hated all the con, like, cool. Kill me for my personal opinion. I don't care about that. I hated all the comments of. What's it, grifting? Or, like, trying to just say salacious for views. That was a private conversation that I had in an Uber with Damaris that she snitched on.

[Maul]

Oh, okay.

[Rory]

Like that. It was almost offensive with people saying, like, I was doing that for clicks and. Is that. Is that the clickbait?

[Maul]

No, it's not.

[Rory]

If I were going to come up. If I were going to come up with clickbait, it would be more than that.

[Maul]

Yeah, no, people just wanted to find an angle for what you were saying. It's all good.

[Rory]

Oh, it just hit me. No, that wouldn't happen.

[Maul]

Happened the last time.

[Rory]

When.

[Maul]

You know. When.

[Julian]

At Wale.

[Rory]

At Wale, yes. Oh, watch off, Mike. I don't remember. Yeah, I really don't.

[Maul]

I do. I don't. I don't never want to.

[Rory]

Oh, yeah. Yeah. But I never even saw him.

[Maul]

No, I did.

[Rory]

Yeah. Okay.

[Maul]

Anyway.

[Rory]

Yeah, I forgot about that.

[Julian]

Well, okay.

[Maul]

Well, have fun. Totally forgot about Shout out to Wale. Shout out to anybody else that's hitting the stage with Wale. Hopefully Cole. That would be dope for the city.

[Rory]

Well, also, it's Beatrice's birthday. I know. This is now.

[Maul]

Shout out to Queen Bee Beatrice. Happy birthday. Shout out to Ravi. Ravi had a birthday.

[Rory]

Yeah. I was mad. I couldn't go.

[Maul]

Yeah. Shout out to Ravi. Happy birthday to the Lady Libras.

[Rory]

But if you want to come Saturday night, we're doing something for B. I was gonna go to the Wale show and then that. I'll tell you off.

[Maul]

Okay.

[Rory]

Yeah, I'm not gonna.

[Maul]

Nah. If it's. If it's, you know, Beatrice, that's my peoples. I'll pull up for her.

[Rory]

Yeah, no, we're doing something small.

[Maul]

I'll come outside for. Yeah, all right, well, let's have fun this weekend. Let's be safe, be blessed. Until next time. I'm. That he's just Ginger. Peace.

[Rory]

New worry and mouth.