Episode 309 | Billion Dollars On An Elevator

Summary

Podcast Summary: New Rory & MAL - Episode 309 | Billion Dollars On An Elevator

Release Date: October 8, 2024

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1. Upcoming Live Podcast in Toronto

The episode kicks off with Rory and Mal announcing their excitement for an upcoming live podcast event in Toronto scheduled for October 17th. Despite the absence of guest appearances like Drake, Rory humorously speculates, "[...] Maybe he'll FaceTime Drake when we're there" (00:19). Mal echoes the enthusiasm, adding, "Cannot wait. One of my favorite cities."

2. Caller Segment

Shortly after, the podcast introduces a caller who delivers a spontaneous and intense monologue filled with aggressive language and personal reflections on friendship and public perception. Mal attempts to address the caller's rants, but the segment is brief and transitions back to the main hosts without delving deeper into the caller's narrative.

3. Interactions with Damaris

Damaris returns to the conversation, sharing her experiences from Washington D.C., where she was engaged in campaigning. She addresses a recent misunderstanding regarding her interactions with Mal, saying, "[...] I told you what was said, but then you cleared it up, and I apologize" (02:20). The hosts discuss a Discord live session where misunderstandings about comments made by Mal surfaced. Damaris clarifies that she hadn't listened to the entire episode yet and promises to revisit the conversation.

4. Celebrity Gossip and Discord Discussions

Rory and Mal dive into discussions about interactions within their Discord community, touching upon conspiracy theories and rumors involving celebrities like Drake and Cardi B. They debate the authenticity of certain claims, particularly focusing on allegations about Cardi B's relationships during pregnancy and rumors linking NFL star Stefon Diggs to her. A notable exchange includes Mal stating, "I don't believe that Cardi slept with anybody" (03:56), emphasizing skepticism about the circulating rumors.

5. Entertainment: Musicals and Broadway Shows

The conversation shifts to the realm of entertainment, specifically criticizing "The Joker" musical. Mal expresses disappointment, saying, "But the Joker just wasn't. That's not what we want" (16:45). Rory counters by praising other Broadway shows like "Moulin Rouge" and "The Lion King," highlighting the diverse opinions between the hosts regarding theatrical productions.

6. Dating, Relationships, and Social Etiquette

Rory and Mal share personal anecdotes about dating and social interactions. They humorously discuss scenarios like paying for spouses' dinners, handling unwanted attention in cars, and navigating social settings with ex-partners. For instance, Rory mentions, "Sometimes you have to close a tab," (12:25) referring to the social dynamics when paying for someone else's meal.

7. Music Preferences and Generational Gaps

The hosts touch upon generational differences in music tastes, with discussions about the rising costs of smoothies and fast food, and the changing landscape of diet and nutrition. They also joke about streaming services and the shift from platforms like Apple Music to YouTube for content consumption.

8. Listener Advice Segment: Handling Makeup in Relationships

Towards the end of the episode, Mal fields a question from a listener seeking advice on how to compliment a girlfriend's natural beauty without offending her about her makeup usage. Damaris provides a thoughtful response, suggesting discernment based on the intention behind the makeup:

"If the makeup is shitty and you hate the way it looks, then that's a conversation worth having. But if you feel like it's just a lot of makeup, which honestly, men don't even really know what a lot of makeup is, [...] like, a lot of women just wear it because they want to." (114:30)

9. Life Situations: Caller Shares Pregnancy Concerns

A caller shares her personal dilemma about being pregnant at 26 and feeling pressured by societal expectations, despite having a stable relationship and supportive parents. The hosts offer varying perspectives:

• Rory emphasizes the maturity and stability of the relationship, questioning why a pregnancy would be viewed as a significant upheaval.

• Damaris empathizes, noting that concerns might stem from perceived emotional or mental readiness rather than age.

• Mal encourages focusing on a healthy, happy pregnancy irrespective of external opinions, stating, "If you were happy and everything else in your life is going well, how your parent reacts just part of it." (124:21)

10. Closing Remarks and Upcoming Events Promotion

As the episode wraps up, Rory and Mal promote their upcoming live shows in Atlanta on November 22nd and New York on December 14th, directing listeners to purchase tickets at newroariandmal.com. They humorously tease plans to navigate event logistics, reflecting their signature playful banter:

"Tickets are available now at newroariandmal.com. Looking forward to seeing the beautiful people of Toronto. [...] I'll be pretending, you know, trying my best to not embarrass us all. Hoping I'll make it discreet." (165:03)

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Notable Quotes:

• Rory on Drake's Potential Appearance:

  "Maybe he'll FaceTime Drake when we're there" (00:19)

• Damaris Apologizing to Mal:

  "I told you what was said, but then you cleared it up, and I apologize" (02:20)

• Mal Expressing Skepticism about Cardi B's Relationships:

  "I don't believe that Cardi slept with anybody" (03:56)

• Damaris Advising on Makeup Conversations:

  "If the makeup is shitty and you hate the way it looks, then that's a conversation worth having. But if you feel like it's just a lot of makeup, [...] like, a lot of women just wear it because they want to." (114:30)

• Mal Encouraging Focus on Personal Happiness:

  "Sometimes family just knocks on, you know, they're not gonna approve all the time. It's okay. But, y'all, that doesn't mean that your home should be interrupted and you should not be happy during this pregnancy." (124:21)

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Conclusion

Episode 309 of New Rory & MAL offers a blend of personal anecdotes, celebrity gossip, social commentary, and listener engagement, all wrapped up in the hosts' charismatic and candid style. From dissecting rumors about high-profile figures to offering heartfelt advice on personal matters, Rory and Mal provide an entertaining yet insightful listen for their audience. The episode also serves as a promotional platform for their live shows, inviting listeners to join them in upcoming cities for more interactive discussions.

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Transcript

[Rory]

Toronto. We will see you next week. October 17th. Live podcast. Cannot wait. One of my favorite cities.

[Mal]

Can't wait.

[Rory]

Mall is super excited. Drake will not be there, so it's just us. But if you want to come and see us, like, we'll. We'll have a good time.

[Mal]

Pull up.

[Rory]

Maybe he'll FaceTime Drake when we're there.

[Mal]

Definitely won't, but.

[Rory]

But, like, in theory, for the promo, maybe, if you think about it, he might do that.

[Caller]

No worry enough.

[Mal]

Want to kill me and y'all still with them. Y'all chill with them. And y'all wonder why we not friends. Best thing I could do is not build with you when I could destroy you. That takes some discipline. I could send a team to come trail you. I got a billion or two, and I know where the you live. Gotta chill with talking gangster. You should just thank us. Humble yourselves a little bit. This ain't the same Shawn that you knew once. I don't shine shoes. This ain't what you want. Nah, all that back and forth on the Internet, Nigga, we don't tennis that. Y'all gotta do something. Only thing we spec now is violence. Anything besides this, we playing violence. I'm public enemy. Niggas want to kill me and y'all want me to be friendly. Niggas want sympathy after they want the envy. Be those closest to it. Be the very ones to envy. Shout out to the family. I don't want no friends no more. Not many understand me? Everybody wants something. You know the price. Everything but the value. Or nothing but everybody something. You know the price. Everything but the value. Never had a lot. This is all I need.

[Julian]

People never care.

[Rory]

And we are back. Who's excited?

[Damaris]

I'm excited.

[Rory]

Damaris is back, too. She was out in our nation's capital doing the Lord's work, campaigning, talking to.

[Mal]

She was black all the way. And she made a turn. She made a turn. Good to see you, baby. Dad. Even though we spoke over the weekend a little bit to see. You know what I'm saying. I had some choice words for you.

[Damaris]

And I had some choice words for you.

[Mal]

Not really. You was asking me what. What was said, and I told you what was said, but then you cleared it up, and I apologize. So. My bad. I didn't know that that was. You know, we had you twisted over some things you posted, so. Got me up apologies to your face.

[Rory]

Well, the streets thought that she backtracked.

[Mal]

Nah, she stood on big box of business. On the big box.

[Damaris]

Explosive box, the biggest.

[Julian]

I heard you, Mal. You Said she stood on a cereal box.

[Damaris]

Mal was like, yeah, Mal was like, I thought she was staying on a CE cereal box.

[Mal]

I'm like, we thought that she was apologizing for or walking back, went to Target.

[Rory]

So we thought maybe she got some cereal.

[Mal]

But she.

[Julian]

She.

[Mal]

She let it be known that she's standing on a big one of the. You know, you do box jumps like she's standing on one of those boxes.

[Julian]

So what was the conversation and where'd you have it?

[Damaris]

So on Discord. Rory did a live on Discord. So if you're a part of our Patreon community, make sure you. Or if you're not, make sure you sign up so that, you know when we're doing our live Discord chats and we just be in there talking shit. So I had two toddlers that I was trying to give bath time. So I hopped in when Rory and Julian were. Yeah. And that's when they told me that M was talking about me behind my back.

[Rory]

Swag.

[Mal]

Wait, what?

[Rory]

Well, we recorded it, so it wasn't really behind her.

[Julian]

Yeah, it was on the episode, which I was hoping.

[Damaris]

I ain't listen, so that's not.

[Julian]

We told you you weren't gonna listen.

[Rory]

So that's why we just told you.

[Damaris]

So they told me Ma was talking, so I was like, oh, word. That's what's up, right? Whatever. So after.

[Rory]

Well, not just mall, we were all. We were all talking.

[Mal]

But that's not what y'all talk.

[Damaris]

No, they was like, yeah, mall. Mall was on you.

[Rory]

Oh, no. I mean, we were being shady. We didn't take any accountability.

[Mal]

We definitely never.

[Rory]

You weren't in Discord yet, so we could blame it on you.

[Mal]

Also lie on me.

[Rory]

Yeah. Because you weren't there. Okay, Duh.

[Mal]

I see how it works. All right.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Rory]

And we're like, I cannot believe Ma would even say that.

[Mal]

Did you hear the episode I had?

[Damaris]

I didn't hear that part. I heard the majority of the episode, but I didn't get to that.

[Mal]

Did you feel like I was, like, talking shit about you?

[Damaris]

I haven't heard it. Haven't heard that part. I will go back and listen, though.

[Mal]

Okay.

[Damaris]

And I could come back on, like, you know, some, like, violence, like, if that's. If that's what it's called, calling for. But I don't know if it was that serious. Was it like that?

[Rory]

So in fact, you did not see the backlash of your opinion and then change it and say it was just for entertainment purposes?

[Damaris]

No.

[Rory]

Okay.

[Julian]

Because that was the Basis of what Moss said on the episode.

[Damaris]

Yeah, that's not what happened because that's.

[Mal]

What we thought your posts were about.

[Damaris]

No, I didn't mention cardi or podcasting or anything in any of those posts. I was talking about people just being stupid. That's worldwide.

[Rory]

I just don't business if I say anything offensive or wrong. I was just joking and it was entertainment.

[Julian]

It's true.

[Damaris]

Yeah, pussy. But anyway, we were in Discord. Rory was in there giving out money for feet. And that's.

[Rory]

First of all, it's not true. I had to restore the balance of order amongst my gender, which we'll get to. I was just being a gentleman and looking out for all men and women equally. No one sent me any feet pics. If I knew that was the case, I would have sent more money.

[Damaris]

You guys were on there for a while. You guys. We didn't get off. Well, we didn't get off discord till like 1am and it started at 7pm.

[Rory]

So I got off and then you texted me a few hours later and was like, mall just entered Discord. And I was getting ready to go to sleep, but you know, I was nosy so I went back in there and we had. That was probably one of my favorite Discord lives we've ever done. Maul was in his like, probably just smoked in his silly laugh mode.

[Mal]

No, what y'all were talking about was silly.

[Rory]

We're not gonna say any names.

[Mal]

Somebody got. Somebody got finessed out of $20 on. On cash app. I was like, $20? Somebody called you and asked for $20? So when I.

[Julian]

That's what happened.

[Mal]

I don't even know. I didn't even know. People still ask for $20.

[Rory]

I. I'll give some backstory here. So this. This woman who remained nameless in our discord.

[Julian]

There's only three of them.

[Damaris]

That's not true.

[Rory]

That's not true.

[Mal]

Seven.

[Rory]

And she's no longer there. We'll say. So you can't find her? Yeah, I guess we'll lie. She came in and said she had been talking to this guy, like on and off for about seven years. I don't even think she's met him in person. Maybe once they like met each other in passing, but they've been going back and forth. They've had some spicy conversations.

[Damaris]

They've had phone sex.

[Rory]

They've had some genitalia pictures. You know, crazy know, typical Twitter for seven year relationship.

[Mal]

N. She said she didn't do that though.

[Damaris]

She said she didn't send pictures. She said that they had, like, phone sex, though.

[Rory]

Okay.

[Mal]

She said, oh, no pictures. And she. And I asked. I said, did you tell him that that's his? That's his. His. His. You know.

[Damaris]

Vagina.

[Mal]

His vagina? I said, did you tell him that? She lied and said, no, she never told him that.

[Damaris]

How you know that she lying?

[Mal]

You lying, man. You not having. You not having FaceTime sex with somebody, and they ask you that, and you don't say, yeah, how are you gonna say yeah?

[Rory]

Like, what else is there to even say during phone calls?

[Damaris]

It's mad other shit to say. But how else. How are you gonna say that that's your vagina when you've never even sniffed said vagina? You don't even know.

[Mal]

That's what y'all is. That's the best time to get your lies off.

[Rory]

Women tell us that when we're actually inside of it.

[Mal]

Yeah, y'all both lying. So it's like, all right, who got the best lies right now? Like, it just sound good. Tell me. Lies make it sound good.

[Rory]

And if y'all haven't met in seven years and just still, like, do dm, say whatever at that point. Cause y'all are never gonna have to meet up and be accountable for the things that you said. So say the wildest shit that you can.

[Mal]

Yeah, that's all it is. So she was lying about that, and it was just funny to me because we knew that she was lying, but we let her get her lies off anyway. And then she was saying that, yo, he asked her for $20. But I'm laughing because I'm like, what is he gonna get with $20? And then y'all told me that he hit her while he was in the chicken spot.

[Rory]

Yep.

[Mal]

And he didn't have no money when he was at the register, so he asked her for $20. And I'm like, that does not. That's not how life works. You're not. You don't find out that you don't have no money at the register.

[Damaris]

Yeah, well, he said his car got.

[Rory]

Scammed at the register.

[Mal]

How you find it out as soon as you wake up?

[Rory]

Like, soon as.

[Mal]

Like, yo, my card ain't working. You don't find it out at the chicken spot. So he was obviously lying and just wanted some money out of her. But I was laughing because 20. What is 20 gonna do for anybody?

[Rory]

Get them chicken?

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Nah.

[Damaris]

Maybe he was hungry. Maybe.

[Rory]

What if he ordered it already? That's an awkward thing. Like, the food there packed up, and then you Try to pay for it. And your car.

[Mal]

I think he was using that for his parlay on fanduel.

[Rory]

I think he really needed some chicken and didn't have any money or prize picks. But she was confused because from what her understanding is, he has a job that makes more money than she does. So she was confused on why he was really asking that. And then they never brought it back up again.

[Mal]

Oh, did she? It was something.

[Rory]

She.

[Mal]

What really made me laugh is when she's like, he's a famous podcaster. I said, don't ever.

[Damaris]

I made that up. He's not a famous podcaster.

[Mal]

He's just whoever said that. That's what made me laugh. Because I'm like, don't tell me that. And then tell me he asked you for 20.

[Rory]

Yeah, we were lying to you to make the story sound better. No, she said something about media or whatever, and then Damaris and I just turned it into, like, all right, which podcaster is it?

[Damaris]

Yeah, we named every single. I think one of us said Alex Cor Cooper at one point. Like, we said every single podcaster.

[Mal]

Like, yeah, I was way too high for that conversation.

[Damaris]

That was. Yeah, Ma. I could tell Maul was high because I could hear him, like, giggling, but, like, not even, like, obnoxiously giggling. Like, I could tell he was really sitting at home giggling. Like, because I'm trying to figure out who what.

[Mal]

Because if somebody asked me for 20, like I said in the chat, if somebody asked me for 20, I'm gonna follow them and see what they spend it on. If I give you. If you'd be like, yo, let me get 20. I'm gonna hand it to you, and I'm following you. Where you going with $20? Like, what you about to do?

[Rory]

What if they have a lot to do that day? You're going to cancel all your plans.

[Mal]

You not doing a lot with $20.

[Damaris]

You can make some shit shake with $20.

[Mal]

No, you cannot.

[Julian]

Not New York.

[Damaris]

Not in New York.

[Rory]

It costs $50 an hour to breeze in New York city.

[Mal]

Like, wait, $20? No, you're not doing nothing with $20. Nothing. $20 is absolutely obsolete.

[Rory]

Damaris thought it was too much because chicken's not that expensive. But if you go through. If you wanted, like, two sides with inflation, I think you would get close to, like, 16.99. You're not going to ask for that. You got to ask a whole number.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Julian]

Crunch supreme now is, like, $8.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Julian]

That's crazy.

[Rory]

My smoothie was 13 today.

[Damaris]

I paid 27 for a fucking burrito from Chipotle with some guac.

[Julian]

Who decided the smoothie market is just as. Is equal to food. The great thing about smoothie was you get nutritional value. Tastes great, but it was like a half the cost of food. Now smoothies are just the same price as food.

[Damaris]

I might as well just eat the food.

[Julian]

The is that I'm not trying to drink a 15 green shit.

[Rory]

For two smoothies. For two smoothies. You could just go buy a blender.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Top of the line.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Now blenders are saying blenders and juicers are so fucking expensive. Loyam bought me my fucking juicer for my new apartment. It's. They're so expensive, and they wonder why.

[Rory]

America's so fucking fat. All the nutritious shit is too expensive.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

That should be the cheaper stuff. Big Mac should be expensive.

[Mal]

But it was a fun conversation on Discord. I had fun talking till one in the morning.

[Damaris]

Yeah, we had. We had a really, really good time. So if you are not in our Discord, please go join our discard. If you're already part of our Patreon. If you're not part of our Patreon, join Patreon so you can join Discord, because I'll be in Discord every day. I talked to Discord like it's Twitter. I was just in there talking to them.

[Rory]

So it was bad that I refunded her $20.

[Julian]

You sent her $20 on the strength of.

[Rory]

Of men.

[Julian]

Like, that's nice. That's a month of Patreon.

[Rory]

That has our general.

[Mal]

That's nice. Right? But when I pay for my friend's dinner while she's on a date, y'all call me a clown.

[Damaris]

$20 or $300?

[Mal]

No, it actually know that girl that got paid for her dinner. He don't know that girl.

[Damaris]

He know her good enough.

[Mal]

He don't know that girl. He seen that a couple live shows.

[Rory]

That's it.

[Mal]

He don't know her.

[Julian]

Talk to her like, every month.

[Rory]

She didn't even submit.

[Damaris]

He talked to her more than. You talked to that girl you sent that money to?

[Mal]

I grew up with that girl I sent money to. What are you talking to?

[Damaris]

How often do you talk to her? Day Today.

[Mal]

I didn't talk to her today, but that don't mean I don't talk to her.

[Damaris]

He like, like, off, like, in a day.

[Mal]

Does that girl have your number?

[Rory]

No.

[Mal]

Case closed.

[Damaris]

She got mine.

[Mal]

You sent $20 to a girl that don't even have your number?

[Julian]

Six plus two.

[Mal]

I pay for my friend's dinner with.

[Damaris]

Another man with her, a nigga, a.

[Mal]

Clown that she happy, that she never spoke to again after that. He didn't even know that a dude paid for the day. He was so, like, out of. Out of the loop. He didn't know what was going on.

[Rory]

Thought it was on the house.

[Damaris]

He ain't pay for it, so. He ain't. You think he, like, damn. All pay for the dinner?

[Mal]

He got to know I pay for it. But I'm just saying, that was a. That's my homegirl.

[Julian]

Wait, so he got up and left that table without thinking. What happened to the bill, actually?

[Mal]

Exactly.

[Rory]

I mean, sometimes weird. Don't ask questions.

[Damaris]

See, sometimes you all ask questions.

[Julian]

You don't ask questions.

[Rory]

If a bill come is like, yeah, we ready to go. I'm like, all right.

[Damaris]

And they like, no, it's been handled. You can get up and, yeah, I'm.

[Rory]

Gonna have some questions. They're gonna stay in my head.

[Mal]

It's been handled. What? Yo, who just paid for my meal, fam?

[Rory]

That's why we said, you think I.

[Mal]

Was crying on a date with a woman? And the waiter like, no, it's been taken care of. And I'm not gonna be like, yo, what they mean it's been taken care of? Who took care of it? I at least want to go say thank you, shake somebody's hand, like, yeah.

[Rory]

That'S why you're a devious demon for doing that.

[Mal]

No, I'm just saying she knew what it was about.

[Damaris]

Well, maybe he's just that nigga.

[Mal]

When I took her there, I specifically told her, don't be bringing none of your. Your dude's here trying to, like, show him a vibe and an ambiance. Don't do that. And what she do two months later? Ski diddle her ass right into the same spot. I put her on, too. So I was like, okay, I got a trick for you called Yo, Listen. That's on me. That's my. That's my.

[Julian]

Yeah, but now that's the bill.

[Damaris]

300.

[Mal]

Nah, it wasn't that much. It was probably like, maybe like 130, 140.

[Damaris]

Oh, so it's like a low spot. It ain't really like, oh, it's like.

[Mal]

A. Yeah, they didn't go crazy.

[Rory]

$120 difference than what I did.

[Mal]

She cut it short. Cause she wasn't even trying to. She was like, he was not interested at all. So that's what I'm saying. It was like, it wasn't no crazy thing, but at least that's my real friend and my homie. He sent $20 a girl he don't even know.

[Rory]

That's my real. But that's my real patrony, right?

[Mal]

That was, like, cool. That was some. That was some.

[Damaris]

I mean, they don't know. There's people that don't. They don't know you, but they give you $20 every month.

[Mal]

But that was some cool. I'm entertaining them, though. It's a difference.

[Damaris]

She entertained the fuck off.

[Rory]

Yeah. I'll be honest. I was entertaining. That was worth. That was worth the price of admission.

[Mal]

Great story.

[Rory]

I paid for Arts Patreon.

[Mal]

I was trying to figure out, what is he spending $20 on.

[Rory]

But you don. That. We all are like a community and a collective as far as men in media. No, we are a reflection of each other. I was doing that to help our image. Like, I was. Look, each one, teach one. If I find out a male in media is moving that way. Charge it to the game.

[Mal]

No, don't charge it to the game. Get on your platform and tell. Say how that nigga's a bum ass. Don't. Don't. You ain't got to send $20. Like, yo, whoever you are, you a bum for that.

[Damaris]

Well, wherever you are, you a bum for that.

[Rory]

Yeah, I think that'd actually be the definition of a bum.

[Mal]

No. That's hilarious, though. $20.

[Julian]

But, you know the person that asked.

[Rory]

Here's my question.

[Mal]

I don't know no nigga that asks anybody for $20. Let me just put that out there.

[Rory]

Here's my question.

[Julian]

I get $20.

[Mal]

What?

[Damaris]

Rory sent me 40, I think. Or 20. 25. I can't remember for what. Oh. Cause I asked.

[Mal]

You just asked for 25. Oh, so you was big. Oh, he was. I was tricking.

[Rory]

He was tricking in the court.

[Julian]

Oh, you Just because you sent her 20. Damaris just sent it.

[Damaris]

Cause I came on there, I said, oh, well, shit, I'm poor. Can I get some money? Say, yeah. So he sent me $20. And then shout out to everybody who sent me money for drinks. I appreciate you. I haven't used it yet. Oh, we were tricking on the discord.

[Rory]

You got to join our discord.

[Julian]

I was in, and then I left. And all of a sudden, you.

[Rory]

I'm the Oprah of discord.

[Damaris]

You get $20. You get $20.

[Rory]

Giving back to the people that is recycling their money.

[Mal]

No, I get it.

[Rory]

I understand my question, though. If that guy asked her for $20, they've been talking on and off for seven years, but never met. How many people do you think he asked for $20 while he was in that chicken spot?

[Mal]

Oh, no. He was a telemarketer. We talked about that, too. He asked about 12 people on his phone for sure for $20.

[Rory]

Cause if you land on the girl that you've never met, that you just like dm.

[Mal]

Yeah. That's the bottom of the list.

[Rory]

You definitely went through 15 people before you got there.

[Mal]

That's the bottom of the list for sure.

[Rory]

He caught a lick. He might have left that chicken spot up.

[Mal]

Yeah, he might have been up a buck 20.

[Damaris]

Well, I mean, he couldn't be down. Like, any money is up to him. He was poor, so you don't know.

[Julian]

If he poor money making media.

[Mal]

He just. Every day. He probably was. Somebody gonna pay for my lunch today also.

[Damaris]

Oh, he a bad.

[Mal]

Allegedly.

[Julian]

Being in a position where you make a lot of money doesn't necessarily mean you have a lot of money, because you could just be making poor financial decisions.

[Mal]

Thank you for that.

[Damaris]

I called him a crackhead.

[Rory]

We. We had a friend in our. Our crew that probably had more money than all of us, worked a great job, but somehow on the road, would always finesse his way into a meal. Like, someone was ordering. Yo, can you just get this for me? I started to add up for, like, a year how much money. How much money and food he got for free. And he had more money than all of us.

[Mal]

How much. How many times he said, yo, can you get this for me?

[Rory]

Yes. Drinks. Like, yo, let me. Let me just order with you real quick.

[Mal]

Let me order with you. No, no, no. My order is closed. Like, I don't know what you want, but my order is closed, fam. Not ordering with me.

[Rory]

You.

[Mal]

Me.

[Rory]

And then. Then he would show up with designer belts and new cars, and I'm like, no, you.

[Mal]

You're.

[Rory]

You're paying for this burger, bro.

[Damaris]

But that's why he up, because he. The. The people I know with the most money are very stingy.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

And, like, they don't. They're tight with money.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Anyways.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Rory]

How Was everyone's weekend? D.C. was fun.

[Mal]

It was great. The Joker was an absolute travesty.

[Rory]

Oh, I heard. I heard.

[Julian]

I heard that.

[Rory]

It's a musical, right?

[Mal]

Yeah, it's a musical, and I like musicals, so I don't want to say it's. But it was trash because it was a musical. But I just don't feel like they should have went the musical route with the Joker series.

[Rory]

You look like you love Jersey Boys. Love a good Broadway show.

[Mal]

Moulin. That was actually a great show.

[Julian]

You like Moulin Rouge?

[Mal]

I didn't. I never seen, like, the real play or the movie?

[Julian]

The play.

[Mal]

No, I never saw the play.

[Rory]

What joke?

[Mal]

What joke were you trying to get off right there?

[Julian]

No, it's a good play. I saw it. It's great.

[Mal]

Okay.

[Rory]

Just a genuine observation.

[Damaris]

Yeah, that's the one play you saw was.

[Julian]

No, I've seen a few plays.

[Mal]

Lion King was the greatest play I probably ever saw.

[Rory]

The Motown one was great because musical already. That was great.

[Mal]

I still want to see the Michael Jackson play, though. I haven't seen that yet.

[Rory]

Bronx Tale, ironically, was pretty good as a musical. I was shocked.

[Mal]

Yeah. But the Joker just wasn't. That's not what we want.

[Rory]

There was no advertising that this was going to be a music. No trailer, no nothing. I'm out the loop.

[Mal]

Yeah, no, it wasn't.

[Rory]

People just went to see.

[Damaris]

Oh, that would have pissed me.

[Rory]

Joker movie. And it ended up being show tunes.

[Julian]

And they purposefully didn't do test screenings. The studio didn't do test screenings. So no one. So there wouldn't be any, you know, leak, leak or like, chatter about it being a musical.

[Mal]

They did.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

See, I had no idea what you. Until, like, maybe like last week.

[Rory]

Oh, I thought you meant, like 10 minutes in. You were like, I think this is a musical.

[Mal]

No, no, no, no, no. I knew before I passed.

[Julian]

How many songs did they sing? Mall. Cause I don't know how that.

[Mal]

I don't know. I wasn't counting. But it's a musical. It's definitely a musical. Like, if you watch it compared to the rest of the Joker movies and just the character, like, it's definitely a completely different experience with this Joker. Not. And it wasn't. I just feel like this series that didn't call for that. Like, it was just keep it, you know, just make a part two to the first one we saw. Like, it would have been fine. Like that.

[Rory]

Well, they had a Joker movie. That was great. What, two years ago? Like, let this breathe. Why do they have to keep remaking everything? Now we're landing on musical remakes.

[Mal]

Yeah, well, I mean, now.

[Damaris]

Well, it wasn't technically a remake. Technically, it was a. Yeah, but. Yeah, I don't know why they would make it a musical.

[Rory]

Because of Lady Gaga.

[Julian]

It's getting awful.

[Mal]

She's been in movies. Wasn't a musical. That's why I've seen people saying that on time. Like, well, yeah, I saw a gag. I was in. What did you think I'm like, what are you talking about? Like, she's been in a bunch of movies that weren't music.

[Julian]

She was great in American Horror Story, too. She's a good actress.

[Mal]

She is a good actress. She's a really good actress.

[Rory]

So you went by yourself or you went with, like, a lady friend?

[Mal]

I went with two ladies.

[Julian]

You sat in the middle.

[Rory]

My bad. I know you're game.

[Julian]

You sat in the middle.

[Mal]

Of course I did.

[Julian]

Both hands occupied.

[Mal]

Oh, no. Two friends. It wasn't that much.

[Rory]

Did you pay for all the snacks?

[Mal]

Pay for the snacks?

[Julian]

That's about 120.

[Mal]

But they were like, some of my. These are like, some of my healthy homegirls, so they didn't go snack crazy.

[Rory]

Okay.

[Mal]

They was like, yeah, you got to.

[Damaris]

Take the vegans to the movie.

[Mal]

Yeah, I took. I was with my healthy home. They had, like, aloe suits on. They was ready to go work out. You know, that type of. They wasn't filling up on no butter popcorn and nachos and shit. Like, they wasn't doing that.

[Damaris]

Oh, that's why you don't take me to the movies because, you know, I'm a run them pockets.

[Mal]

No, you got to be able to run. If you come to movies with me, you order a lot. Because I'm running out. I'm not paying for nothing. I still. At the movie theater, I'll let everybody know that I still.

[Julian]

I go in with the. That I want to eat. I don't buy it there.

[Damaris]

Oh, you bring, like, a big purse.

[Julian]

No, I just. I wear pants with larger pockets.

[Mal]

You know, like, you take a bowl, you go get, like, a salmon bowl with rice and a chipotle bowl.

[Rory]

Seared hockey.

[Mal]

Yeah. You go in the movie theater with a bowl with a bento box, some sushi. He got chopsticks in his pocket. That's what Julian on.

[Rory]

My dad was definitely that embarrassing parent that we had to sneak in all.

[Mal]

Oh, yeah, that's part of. That's part of life.

[Rory]

But back there, all right, there was somewhere in my childhood, prices went crazy. But before that, my dad was still making me sneak in popcorn in, like, regular snack bags. And it was like, $3 at that time.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Like, we could have just.

[Mal]

Could have just bought the popcorn.

[Rory]

$0.89 versus three bucks.

[Damaris]

But $3 back then was, like, $10.

[Julian]

True.

[Rory]

But I don't know.

[Mal]

Yeah, because I look at the. The McDonald's menu from 98. I still don't know why my mom was putting up that much of a fight for me to get a number three. Like, that was like 3, 379. You know how much McDonald's I would eat today if that. If a value meal was 3.79.

[Rory]

There was a dollar menu at one point.

[Mal]

That's what I'm saying. Like, all of that is absolutely. It doesn't exist. So you think back when your mom said, I ain't got no McDonald's money. My. You ain't got $3.79, but you had a twin.

[Rory]

True.

[Damaris]

So technically $7.

[Mal]

That ain't got nothing to do with me. What she eat. See, that ain't on my jacket.

[Damaris]

You can't do that.

[Mal]

That ain't a part of my day. Like, I don't know what she'll pay.

[Rory]

You'll pay for a friend on a date, but not for your sister to get some McDonald's. That's crazy.

[Mal]

Oh, no. I would pay for my sister to get McDonald's, but I wasn't even back then. I wasn't paying for my own McDonald's. It was my mom's money.

[Damaris]

So, yeah, I also had that parent that was like, we got McDonald's at home and she would make them big ass burgers.

[Mal]

Now, my mom said that I wasn't tripping if she was saying, I'll make burgers. And I'm not mad at that. But I'm also was like, you outside. You know how it is. You outside all day, you want to go grab McDonald's, your mom's tripping. You look back at the pull up the menu. Now it's 3.79 for value meal. You didn't have that.

[Rory]

Are you calling your mom a bum?

[Mal]

Yeah, I'm just. No, I'm just saying she just didn't want to give me.

[Rory]

She ever asked someone for 20.

[Mal]

My mom was never a bunch. She had money. She just didn't want to give me.

[Damaris]

Money to buy McDonald's because she didn't find the value. She didn't feel like that was worth her. For her $5 after tax.

[Mal]

That's crazy.

[Rory]

She had money. You didn't have money.

[Mal]

I didn't have.

[Julian]

The original McDonald's menu was 15 cents for a hamburger, 19 for a cheeseburger, 10 cents for fries.

[Damaris]

Mall was not around for the original McDonald's menu.

[Julian]

Yeah, he was.

[Rory]

You didn't see the movie the Founder? That's mall in the back.

[Damaris]

Yo.

[Julian]

When did it open? In the. In the 40s. All right?

[Rory]

Then it was stolen.

[Mal]

And it was stolen.

[Rory]

It was. It's a good movie, though. I was outside this Weekend for the first time in quite. Quite a while.

[Mal]

Yeah, I saw you. We linked up. What was that? Saturday.

[Rory]

Saturday night. So before Mo and I linked up, I did go to the Wale show, where I threw you guys under the bus immediately.

[Mal]

Oh, my God.

[Rory]

When I was confronted by Wale's team.

[Mal]

Oh, my God.

[Rory]

Yeah. What was up with all that laughter? I said, I don't know. I don't really with them like that. I know him, but I don't know them.

[Julian]

We just talk.

[Rory]

Like, I see them during the week sometimes, but, like, I.

[Mal]

And now that I think about it, I owe Wale an apology.

[Rory]

Okay. Some accountability.

[Mal]

Yeah. Because Wale wouldn't. He wouldn't backtrack a diss record.

[Rory]

All right, See why.

[Mal]

He wouldn't do that. He would not do that.

[Julian]

Apologies.

[Mal]

Listen, I'm just saying, now that I think about it, Wale is a. He's a dope artist. We. We. I feel like he's highly underrated. That's why I wasn't mad at Rory saying that, because I do feel like Wale is underrated. But now that I think about it, Wale would have stood on business in that beef.

[Julian]

I know what you say that, but.

[Rory]

After he replied to Cole, I wouldn't say a diss per se, but you could throw it in that category. They did go to a basketball game together that day and sat courtside.

[Mal]

Who?

[Rory]

Wally and Cole. I think he said at the end of Groundhog Day, we're about to go to the game, though. So it's all love.

[Mal]

Well, I mean, it's not. It's not like. It's not a war. It's not like it's violence going to occur, like.

[Rory]

Nah.

[Mal]

But if it's, like, rapid. I think Wale would have. He wouldn't have backtracked. No diss record. I don't think Wale would do that. So for that alone, he's gaining more ground in your debate. For me. For me, he's gaining more ground. It might be a lot closer than we think now.

[Rory]

Well, anyways, the show was great. Again, a reminder of how many hits Wale does have and how many great B sides he does. It was just a really good show. I had a great time and it was nice to see all the Wiley fans. It was nice to be actually embraced. Whereas when I come in here, I'm on for my opinions. It was nice to be around my people.

[Mal]

I didn't on that opinion of yours, though. I thought about it.

[Rory]

You giggled.

[Mal]

Yeah, I laughed at it. I was like Damn, that's. I said, I said that's tough. But, I mean, you know, I understand why you said it, though, because again, even in that conversation, I do feel like Wale is criminally underrated.

[Rory]

It was my first time at Irving Plaza in a while, and I don't want to get too local, but they redid it. Irving Plaza is really nice.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Upstairs is completely different. They have like risers on the second floor so you can see above everyone because you know when like, you're short like me and you don't get like, right on that balcony, so you ain't seeing.

[Julian]

So.

[Rory]

Which I wish more venues would do. They put like a riser above the second floor.

[Mal]

Okay.

[Rory]

So you can see over the people on the railing. It's.

[Mal]

Oh, that's dope.

[Rory]

Yeah. I was shocked. I didn't know Irving Plaza did that. But again, great night. Left the Wale show, went down to downtown. I won't even say where was that, but to my friend Beatrice, birthday party, which mall linked me at. And usually I'm the one that closes the bar down and won't shut the up and everyone's trying to leave. It was mall this time.

[Mal]

No Moss.

[Rory]

The lights came on, see, and Maul was still arguing about R. Kelly.

[Julian]

Sir, you gotta close the tab.

[Mal]

That wasn't even my fault, though. That was not even my fault.

[Rory]

They were sweeping up and you was like, nah, R. Kelly.

[Mal]

Every time. Every time I shut up up, somebody asked me a question, I was like, I'm over here in the cut by the bar, minding my business. Somebody asked me a question, I got to answer them. Right or wrong. Yeah.

[Rory]

We started to scare the hoes a little bit, though.

[Mal]

I mean, those were friends, though. So it was. It didn't.

[Julian]

What was the conversation and had had.

[Rory]

To do more with Puff and R. Kelly and listening to music. Mall took it a little too far, though. I don't think I can stop listening to anyone that was on Bad Boy.

[Mal]

No, I was. I cleared it up. I was more so saying like anything that he's on, like, nah, not listening to it.

[Rory]

I kind of appreciate. I won't say the gentleman's name that we were talking to because I don't know if he wants this information out there. He was on the side of, yo, I'm still listening to R. Kelly, Puff. I'm playing all that. Like, I'm not stopping my life with music because he's a nasty behind the scenes, which I don't listen to R. Kelly and I'm not going to. But I understood his point of view. Like the. Him I'ma stop listening because. Because he did some nasty. He don't even own his music.

[Damaris]

I mean. Cause the songs were written about little girls.

[Rory]

That's why I'm not listening to that shit at all. But he was just bringing up points of. If that's the case, we could go through a whole list of artists that we shouldn't be listening to. If we're going off what they do behind the scenes.

[Julian]

Fuck artists, companies.

[Rory]

But I mean, it was fun to see mall outside. It was cool to see him control a room and shut the bar down.

[Mal]

I controlled the room.

[Rory]

You did. You were holding court.

[Mal]

I just had conversations with friends that I hadn't seen in a while.

[Julian]

Said you did like a. Rory told me you held a toast towards the end.

[Mal]

I did not. You think I held the toast?

[Julian]

Yeah, because they said you. You like. They had wine, but you didn't like the house. Pino, you said, I only drank this one. So they ran out, picked it up.

[Mal]

From like a liquor store.

[Julian]

Yeah, no, they like what? They got it from Napa Valley and then brought it back.

[Mal]

They flew to Napa.

[Julian]

And then Rory was like, we'll wait too.

[Damaris]

And then we'll wait.

[Rory]

Yeah, I. I think he recited a poem during the toast too.

[Damaris]

Yo.

[Rory]

Something about, like, moments taking your breath away. And something about the people in this room.

[Mal]

You were rambling about how life golden.

[Rory]

And, you know, no matter where.

[Mal]

We only get one shot at this.

[Rory]

Let's all remember this night.

[Damaris]

You know what the. You know what?

[Rory]

The baddies never lose touch.

[Mal]

The never, never stop coming together. Just for special occasions. We got to do this more often.

[Damaris]

Never above you, never below you, always beside you.

[Julian]

Oh, God.

[Mal]

Oh, my God.

[Julian]

Like Kevin Hart at the the ROC Nation brunch. Toast. What did he say down he. There's a video of him and Diddy has one too. They all have one. They all want that video of them doing a toast joke. What is that? What is the upset? I've never understood that. What is the obsession with, like, being the guy that has a video of him leading a toast around powerful people? That is like the gayest thing.

[Rory]

I can't think of anything I wouldn't want. Like, don't ever ask me to do a toast. I don't want to speak.

[Mal]

Yeah, at a dinner to do a toast.

[Damaris]

Now. I freak a toast. I. I kill toast.

[Mal]

I kill toast.

[Damaris]

I kill toast.

[Mal]

You burn toast is what you do.

[Damaris]

Never burnt no toast, baby.

[Mal]

You ain't no. I don't Trust nobody that never burnt toast.

[Damaris]

No, I've definitely burnt everybody's birds. I've definitely burnt before. I've also. But I burned. I was one of the kids that accidentally put noodles in the microwave without water because I wasn't paying attention because I have adhd. So, like, I just forgot to put the water in and not the cup. Like, I put, like, the runs that are in the packet. I put it ramen, no water. House just burnt to a cross.

[Mal]

Cooked a sponge. That's what's up.

[Rory]

Yo. After we left the birthday party, I was taking the Jersey crew home. Like, everyone split. Who was going to Jersey, who stay in the city. I think I finally realized which. You guys are gonna laugh because I've probably been trash. But I. I'm officially trash. I had Three Bad in the car and didn't even know what song to play when they were like, we want to hear pussy pop music. I was like, I don't. I don't have any of that. Why didn't you come?

[Mal]

Rachel came on.

[Rory]

Like, I used to know what to do when three Bad got in your car and what to play. Like, I throw on Party Next Door too. Something like that. This new era of pussy pop. I don't even know. I was like, glorilla. No, that's not it. All right, then.

[Damaris]

So you ain't put on a lotto?

[Rory]

I gave them my password to my phone and said, you do it?

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

And what did they put on lotto?

[Rory]

I forgot. I didn't understand who it was. I didn't recognize the voice, but they all knew the words. It was some ratchet. I don't know, Peach.

[Mal]

What'd you say?

[Rory]

I like Flo Millie.

[Mal]

I like that roast, that record.

[Damaris]

I like Baby D. He's speeding away for his hand on my coochie. He touching Emilio Poochie. Doing good.

[Mal]

Never lose me, right? Lose me. Yeah, okay.

[Damaris]

Oh, you wanted me to say the word. Sorry.

[Mal]

I wanted to just the title, too. Yeah, I didn't want the verse, baby. But I'm glad you got into your shit and you gave us that little rendition of yours.

[Rory]

See, that's how I know I'm even older, because I went to go look to see if there was, like, history of what was listened to in my Apple music. No, they were using YouTube. It's all my shit in there. Nobody even uses DSPs. These young chicks go right to YouTube.

[Mal]

That's crazy. Yeah, putting on YouTube in a car, crazy.

[Damaris]

That's wild.

[Mal]

Who does that?

[Damaris]

Did you. Please don't tell me you embarrassed us. You had premium, right?

[Rory]

Yeah, of course. Come on.

[Julian]

Okay, we just got it.

[Damaris]

His personal.

[Rory]

That's the best 12 on the market. This is not an ad, but YouTube Premium is the best 12 on the market by far.

[Mal]

You don't want to see none of that, right?

[Rory]

No ads. You can close the phone. It's.

[Julian]

It is nice.

[Rory]

It's the greatest thing. So. Yes, at least at that point. And I just got my car detailed, so that was helpful. I looked okay. I just looked like the old washed up guy that maybe had a few dollars in his pocket.

[Mal]

He was carpooling, you know, you too.

[Damaris]

Young to like, be that.

[Rory]

I got grace.

[Damaris]

That's fine. But you're too young to be like the old watch.

[Rory]

I don't see him popping out.

[Damaris]

Chin up in my direction.

[Mal]

I got grace.

[Damaris]

But like. Yeah, you too young to like, be that.

[Mal]

30. How old are you?

[Rory]

34.

[Mal]

That's not too young to be the.

[Rory]

One old at all.

[Damaris]

Just like washed up. No, you're too young to be washed up.

[Rory]

I don't know what happened in the last 18, 19 months. I don't know what's relevant in the popping world. Like, I. I mean, I just haven't been outside.

[Mal]

I doubt. All you got to do is throw on some either. Some. Some, you know, Glorilla, Travis Scott.

[Damaris]

Please don't put no Travis Scott on the car.

[Mal]

He got a bunch of pussy. Pop music. What are you talking about?

[Rory]

Yeah, but they wanted to hear like ratchet women talk about how good their is.

[Julian]

Yeah, I'm with Rory. Just give them the phone. You guys do it.

[Rory]

But what I left out right when we got into the car, my girl in the back said, rory, you want to hear no fucking R and B. I was like, you know me so well. Because I was about you about to.

[Damaris]

Put on some from the function.

[Rory]

Drunk.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Coming down west side highway and putting on music. Soul Child.

[Damaris]

Not for people. That's not you don't nobody want to hear that.

[Mal]

He was about to put on some life Jennings. Yeah.

[Rory]

Yeah. That's actually a good wind down go through the Holland Tunnel type of music.

[Damaris]

They wanted to twerk. They were twerking in the Audi.

[Rory]

Yeah, they were. And sunroof. Oh, I was.

[Julian]

Music video.

[Rory]

I was terrified I was gonna get pulled over. Yeah. But no, because I wasn't any of them. I felt like I should be able to go listen to my music. If I was trying to. Then. All right, do whatever. Like, I'll. No, do whatever you want. No, because I'm trying to be Also.

[Julian]

Only when you beat is when you accommodate women.

[Rory]

Exactly. Because I just. I view them. Just objects.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Rory]

And if. If we're not having sex, there's no use at all, actually.

[Mal]

Get out. Why are you in my car?

[Julian]

Where's your Uber?

[Mal]

Yeah, where's your Uber? Get out.

[Rory]

Went through the sunroof and I was like, put your seatbelt back on.

[Mal]

Yeah, exactly. Nah, I'm that person for sure.

[Damaris]

Really?

[Mal]

Don't be standing in no sunroof while we in the car. What is this? This ain't south beach and this ain't spring break. Sit down.

[Rory]

And then I really killed the vibe because once we got to the Holland tunnel, I was like, we have to put all the windows up. And the sunroof. I don't want to breathe in this air.

[Mal]

Oh, see, I'm not going that. See, I. I'm not going to be like, that's just a different.

[Rory]

Having your window down in the tunnel is a different type of nasty to me.

[Mal]

I get it.

[Rory]

You breathing in all that unrecycled oil.

[Julian]

It's just exhaust.

[Mal]

I get it. I totally get it. But it is. Telling somebody to sit down because we're in a tunnel is like.

[Rory]

I would get lightheaded.

[Mal]

You would get. Oh, from the air. Got it. Okay. Got you. Well, back to what?

[Rory]

Everyone made it home safely to the respected house.

[Mal]

I was about to say, as long as I made home safely, everybody's good.

[Rory]

Did three stops. I thought that was very gentleman, like, of me.

[Mal]

Oh, come on. Who else but you?

[Rory]

I went. I went through the entire Jersey city. Of course, the three of them live nowhere near each other.

[Mal]

Make sure everybody get in the house safe.

[Rory]

Yeah, that's what's up.

[Mal]

Yeah. Good night. Had a good night. Happy birthday to Beatrice again. So, baby, did we got more info on the topic that we had last week, the discussion about the alleged situation of Cardi b Sleeping with somebody while she was pregnant.

[Damaris]

Do you have more authenticated information?

[Mal]

I don't. I didn't say authentic. I said I don't have any. I told you the side I stand on already. I think. I think she said that just to kind of like sometimes want me to say something to just pierce your soul. They throw a harpoon right through your heart.

[Rory]

Somebody gave you the cardi scoop. You have an anonymous source.

[Mal]

It's on the timeline. It's. It's just things that are being talked about.

[Rory]

Oh, it's true then.

[Mal]

Well, you know, allegedly. The person or the perp who the perpetrator.

[Rory]

You can't be a Perp. If you had consensual sex with someone.

[Mal]

I mean, you know, well, if she.

[Julian]

Was eight months pregnant, then that's.

[Rory]

I didn't lower her age or her consent.

[Julian]

No, it's just weird.

[Rory]

I agreed, but I'm not here to kink shame. Go ahead.

[Mal]

Allegedly, they're saying that NFL star wide receiver Stefon Diggs, who is popular amongst the ladies. The ladies seem to like Stephon.

[Rory]

Tremendous athlete, great, great player.

[Mal]

They're alleging that he is the guy that Cardi B slept with while she was pregnant. I don't know if this is true. I'm just saying this is what the timeline is saying. This is what blogs are reporting. This is what people are mumbling about.

[Rory]

So celebrity has sex with NFL player. Slow. Newsweek.

[Damaris]

And you believe that crazy voice?

[Mal]

I don't believe that. I told you, I don't believe. I don't. I don't. I don't believe Cardi slept with anybody.

[Julian]

There's an old clip circulating after this report came out which made it true. Which. Which, to me, is the evidence.

[Rory]

Right here.

[Julian]

This is. This is. Yeah, this holds up in court.

[Mal]

What?

[Rory]

Wap.

[Mal]

I mean, I only know it has wap.

[Julian]

What does that stand for?

[Mal]

Ask Cardi B.

[Rory]

So the evidence is. Is what exactly?

[Mal]

This is. Oh, this is the evidence that.

[Julian]

That was evidence. Oh, he's alluding to.

[Rory]

Or he's saying ask Cardi B because the name of her song was wap, which was an acronym for what that she explained.

[Mal]

And I'm pretty sure if we get more of this interview, we will see the context of it and realize that that had nothing to do.

[Julian]

Irrelevant.

[Rory]

Well, this was the funnier video that I liked. After this, they were interviewing a bunch of his teammates throughout the years of who they would never want around their sister or their wife or their girl.

[Damaris]

And they all said Stefan.

[Julian]

I think we can confirm Stefan's a dog, but that's fine. I'm not jamming him for being a dog.

[Rory]

Makes him a. A great athlete.

[Mal]

You got to be a dog on that field.

[Rory]

Not.

[Julian]

Yeah, I mean, he can't go out.

[Mal]

There being a kid.

[Julian]

He just beat his former team yesterday at the Bills. Does. Now he's on the Texans. He's. He's a dog.

[Rory]

Can you play this clip? Because this had me rolling in the crib.

[Julian]

What guy on the scene would you least like to date? Your sister? What the hell, dude? When it hits him.

[Mal]

No, don't leave it like that. No.

[Rory]

What guy on this team would you.

[Julian]

Least like to date?

[Rory]

Your sister?

[Mal]

Oh, Stephan Dix.

[Rory]

Why date no hesitation.

[Julian]

He's. He's just.

[Mal]

He's crazy. He's just outrageous. Don't know what he's going to say. Just don't know what to expect every day.

[Rory]

So is this dirty mat I can date my sister.

[Julian]

Would you least like to date your sister? At least like to date my sister? Digs 100% no hesitation on anybody. Cuz he's just. He's not a guy that you want.

[Rory]

To bring home to your parents.

[Julian]

Like you don't want your sister to bring him home to your parents so therefore she can't date him.

[Damaris]

He wants crazy mouth.

[Julian]

Would you least like to get your sister?

[Rory]

You said everything ever on earth in that lock of you're starting to be the runaway favorite for this.

[Julian]

Would nobody want me to do this is it.

[Mal]

I'm a great guy.

[Julian]

I'm actually a great guy. Seems to be a few guys that don't think that feel differently about me. Yeah. Don't know me well it up. That's what it is. It's the appearance.

[Rory]

He he a dog who don't I.

[Julian]

Want dating my sister Weatherly. Why Weatherly? Because he's ugly.

[Damaris]

What's wrong with him?

[Rory]

Just proved everyone's point. He gives he gives me Clay vibes of trying to come across as a good guy. But you're actually a dirtbag. And I mean that would love Clay.

[Julian]

Clay's a good guy.

[Rory]

Clay is a good guy as a person but his dating habits we questioned on the show to his face. So I don't mind saying them here. Yeah that's what Seth gives me those vibes like why does everyone think I'm a bad guy? I don't know. Because you dog out every girl that you because everyone has a bad bad situationship with you.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

He look like he show sex videos.

[Mal]

What do you that's hilarious.

[Damaris]

He look like he shows you look.

[Mal]

Like you show sex videos.

[Damaris]

Like he shows sex videos in the locker room.

[Mal]

Look what I yo look. Look how I had her last night.

[Rory]

You never had a friend like that.

[Mal]

That's why I laughed at what she said because I know I've definitely had friends like that without a doubt.

[Rory]

And then what's so because that's not consensual where this girl knows that he's showing the video. So it's fucked up as is and disgusting. But then the friend doesn't even appreciate my consent. I don't want to watch this. Why every weekend you're showing me another sex video and I keep pushing the Phone away from me. I don't want to see you fucking. Stop showing me these videos.

[Mal]

Yeah, that's just. I've never been a fan of that. That's always been corny to me.

[Damaris]

Why you want your friends to see your dick? Like.

[Rory]

Like, I've seen a fat ass before, bro. I really don't need to see your dick and a. I've seen ass. It's cool.

[Julian]

Does this.

[Rory]

I know what naked women look like.

[Damaris]

Why are you trying to convince your homeboy you know how to fuck? Like, why are you trying to convince your homeboy you know how to fuck from the back? I don't know. Shit. Just give to me.

[Julian]

Assuming this is true. Do you guys see this?

[Rory]

That he was pitching me?

[Damaris]

Yeah. Like, yeah, look, look.

[Mal]

Yeah, look.

[Rory]

Yeah, look how I give it up, bro.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

See anything that interests you?

[Julian]

Assuming that.

[Mal]

That the.

[Julian]

Stefan. This is true. Assuming that he was the one to talk. Maybe not even speaking to, but talking to Cardi B. Because that was also. I guess there's text exchanges, whatever. Does this change the conversation that we previously had a couple episodes ago?

[Mal]

About what?

[Rory]

Because he's an NFL player?

[Julian]

Yeah, because of who it is or the situation at hand.

[Mal]

It doesn't matter.

[Damaris]

No, I don't think the person who it is changes the act.

[Mal]

It's not the person. No, having sex while you're pregnant is.

[Julian]

What if he has really good hands?

[Rory]

But, I mean, is he nice?

[Damaris]

I don't know.

[Julian]

Yeah, he's one of the best in this game.

[Rory]

He's great. Judging by what his teammates said about him, he seems like the guy that would a pregnant girl.

[Damaris]

Damn. I can't believe y'all putting on Steph's jacket. He don't deserve that.

[Mal]

Yeah, I'm just. I'm with you. I just don't. I. I don't know, man. I just can't.

[Rory]

He probably didn't, but it'd be funny to say that he did.

[Mal]

I can't. I can't.

[Damaris]

Apparently he a dog and he deserve it, so.

[Rory]

Well, yeah, I saw this going back and forth. Then Cardi B and Offset were in the club together or something. Again, leave me out of the group chat. We keep talking about it, so I'm a hypocrite here, but why do I need to know they're in the club? First of all, why are you going to your ex's hosting?

[Mal]

You know why.

[Damaris]

You know why he's showing up at that shit?

[Mal]

The Mavericks would do that.

[Damaris]

Go to my ex's hosting, you bug. The fuck I Run so far away. Especially. I don't never want to be around a nigga when he ain't not doing that. No, listen.

[Mal]

We're not doing it. We not doing it.

[Rory]

So happy she took the man.

[Mal]

Not doing it.

[Damaris]

Are you gonna listen?

[Mal]

I love you. We're not doing it.

[Damaris]

Are you gonna listen to what I'm saying? I'll. Don't get me wrong. I am not below stalking. Like, I. I mean, I'm not above stalking. Like, I have openly admitted to stalking, but when it comes to. I don't never want to be around a. When he in his element. Like, when March Madness is playing and people bringing out bottles of sparklers and it's bitches around him. I'm not. You know, I'm not gonna let you shine on me in your element. No, I want to see you at the grocery store when anybody paying you no attention.

[Mal]

That's Cap, man.

[Rory]

Cardi B doesn't go to the grocery store.

[Damaris]

Yes, she does. They got mad pictures of Cardi and Target and Whole Foods.

[Rory]

She does, but what is your. Your goal here?

[Mal]

If.

[Rory]

All right, I find out my ex is hosting and she's a celebrity, like, I'm Just go to the club. And then do what?

[Damaris]

Just make.

[Rory]

Just try to out bottle her.

[Mal]

Bottle?

[Julian]

Yeah, like, bottle for bottle. You're in New York, Just go to another club.

[Rory]

You guys are exes, not bmf, Just fucking manipulative.

[Damaris]

People like to. It's just like, I now know her night is ruined because I'm there. Yeah, Like, I don't know Toxic. Niggas.

[Mal]

I know toxic.

[Rory]

Her night was probably not ruined.

[Mal]

Her night wasn't ruined, but it was definitely like, oh, boy.

[Rory]

And I can see if your girl's not like, a celebrity like that. All right, cool. You might want to try to catch her doing some shit. Cardi B is gonna have a camera on her the entire time. Like, you're not gonna catch her doing anything. She's not. Not gonna act on something because you showed up. She's Cardi B. There's a camera there.

[Mal]

If I find out my ex girl's at the club, I just walk in, I'm walking right back out.

[Julian]

The facts, they said that she was allegedly startled when the DJ gave Offset a shout out.

[Damaris]

Yeah, that's how she found out he was in the club because the DJ shouted him out. That would have pissed me off. Oh, my God, bro.

[Rory]

There's. There's been multiple times in my Z list celebrity life that the DJ has said my name, and I whispered, I'M not supposed to be here.

[Mal]

Yeah, like, don't say my name.

[Rory]

Can. You know, I'm hiding back here.

[Mal]

I'm actually not here.

[Damaris]

Damn. They started playing. My phone could die.

[Rory]

Started to blow up.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Heard you're at the club.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

That's wild.

[Rory]

She was home.

[Damaris]

That's crazy. As I. Well, so one of the things that was big on the timeline where people were like, oh, they're back together. This is. Why does she keep, like, you know, bringing us into this group chat? She's gonna keep taking it back because he was at her grandmother's, I think, birthday party. And I'm like, y'all don't know how, like, relationship go. Like, yeah, auntie and Unc break up. But, like, Unc still be at the functions. Like, that's.

[Rory]

They have children together. I'm sure Cardi B. Yeah, he's still.

[Mal]

Part of the family. Yeah, like family. But it's like they bump each other.

[Damaris]

When they walking past each other. That's that.

[Rory]

This. This was a great win for men, I will say. And though I'm not a big offset supporter in his. His everyday life, when you get grandma or mom or any of the aunts on your side, that's a good look. It's a great win.

[Julian]

This is a way better video for him than the club.

[Rory]

This ruined her day. Not. Not him showing up to the club. I've been through breakups where mom and grandma loved me.

[Mal]

I think that's old, though.

[Damaris]

This is recent.

[Julian]

No, that's recent. 86 or 86 birthday party.

[Damaris]

Yeah, this was, like, last week.

[Mal]

Oh, okay. Well, yeah, he's still. He's family. He's gonna always be family. I mean, you expect to see him at the family functions.

[Rory]

Nothing pisses a woman off more when you do some. And her mom and grandma still are like, I mean, how is he? Maybe you should make it work.

[Mal]

Check this out. If my baby. Mom's. While she pregnant, you and your family. Gangster. All them. Granny.

[Rory]

Granny didn't do any.

[Damaris]

Oh, I'm trying. I'm really.

[Rory]

You're not saying about Cardi B. You're saying in the scenario.

[Damaris]

I'm trying.

[Mal]

I'm not talking about Cardi.

[Rory]

I don't.

[Mal]

I keep telling you, I don't believe she did it. I'm just saying in general, if I had a baby, Mom's and me and her family was cool, and they come to find out she slept with a dude while she was pregnant with my baby. Fuck your family. I'm never going back to your family functions. Again? You crazy? What? Get the fuck out of here. Fuck. You in that tree you fell from.

[Rory]

Yeah, but we look at. We always look at the older generation, like, they were more reserved, and they didn't have wild shit happening.

[Mal]

They were wilder.

[Rory]

They were wilder. They just hit it better. So I'm sure Grandma was just like, he only. He only two other women. You good?

[Damaris]

Yeah. Grandma like, what?

[Mal]

Granddad got a whole nother family in doctor.

[Damaris]

Yeah, yeah, he got.

[Mal]

He got grown kids. You ain't meet your brothers and sisters in Dr. Yet. Yeah, we.

[Rory]

We had to leave Dr. Because we had so many side families.

[Mal]

But one thing I could. I could promise you Granny never did was lay down with another man while she was pregnant. She ain't do that. I'm not.

[Rory]

I mean, I don't know this one.

[Mal]

She ain't do that. That on. Daddy.

[Rory]

You don't think there's ever been a.

[Mal]

Grandmother that's not the granny cloth?

[Damaris]

I think y'all got the granny cloth up.

[Mal]

Nah.

[Rory]

First of all, is what makes you a grandmother.

[Mal]

Yeah, I understand that, but it's just a different time. We're in that. Oh, it's a different time.

[Rory]

Oh, please.

[Damaris]

I think y'all have the older.

[Rory]

You think when their husband was off to war, they wasn't doing some nasty?

[Damaris]

Older women were just better at keeping secret? They were. They were just as wild.

[Mal]

I'm not saying they wasn't cheating. I'm not saying he wasn't cheating and had side. I'm not saying that. That's always been a thing. I'm talking about Granny. Well, who is now Granny? When she was pregnant with your mother or your aunt or your uncle, she wasn't laying down with another man having sex. That's. I'm on that side of the argument. That's all I'm saying. This is a new thing. This ain't no okay. This is new shit.

[Rory]

Listen, man. My mother's last name was changed. Remember I went to get my cords cut.

[Mal]

Yes.

[Rory]

Long time ago.

[Mal]

Yes.

[Rory]

She told me at one point that there was, like, somebody was exiled from my family. For shame. And, like, I brought it up to my mom, and she was like, yeah, we had to, like your great, great grandmother. We had to change, like, our last name because she was doing, like, some wild ho shit.

[Julian]

Changing the family name over ho show. That's great.

[Rory]

And granted, that's like my mom's great grandmother, so she didn't fully. She didn't know the story either, but she was like. She did, like, some. Some foul, like, cheating Type of thing. And like. And at that time, just having sex. You were being burned.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Julian]

As a witch through that 19th century all over the place.

[Rory]

So I. Yeah, I think great. Great granny on my mom's side was probably one of, like, the biggest hoes. That's where you get it from in the Northeast.

[Julian]

Damn.

[Mal]

That Gene Strong, he said the Northeast.

[Damaris]

Damn.

[Rory]

Because I think. I think they may have been in Montreal before that.

[Mal]

Great city.

[Julian]

So I went in the north.

[Mal]

Beautiful.

[Rory]

Yeah. No, I think.

[Julian]

Damn.

[Rory]

I think my mom's family, like, may. May have fled from Montreal because what's she. Granny was going nuts.

[Mal]

Leaving a whole country because your grandmother's going crazy.

[Rory]

The whore of the north is.

[Julian]

I did the math. Cardi's grandmother was born in 1938, which means she was 20 in 58. I think they're doing some. In 1958.

[Rory]

100. Who said they wasn't blessed?

[Julian]

To negate your point, I just.

[Mal]

That's not. Negate my point. Yeah, it isn't going. I said I don't think that women back then was having sex with other men while they were. While they were pregnant. That's all I'm saying. I think that's a new age thing, man.

[Rory]

When the CIA has to kill the biggest hoe in history. They were hoeing back then. Marilyn Monroe took down an empire.

[Mal]

Who said they wasn't hoeing, though? Why you keep saying.

[Rory]

You're saying they were hoeing while they were pregnant?

[Mal]

Is what I'm saying. That's all I'm saying.

[Rory]

You know how much longer they had to find out that they was pregnant back then?

[Mal]

Okay.

[Julian]

The day they gave birth.

[Rory]

There was no pregnancy sticks to piss on.

[Mal]

All right, y'all want to play semantics?

[Rory]

There was no ultrasounds.

[Mal]

They weren't happy.

[Rory]

Thought they had a little pudge. They was great.

[Mal]

Y'all want to have semantics? Not knowingly pregnant. How does that help the argument? Yeah, okay.

[Rory]

Still the same.

[Mal]

Just say y'all like that while they pregnant. That's all.

[Rory]

That's my type.

[Mal]

What? That's.

[Julian]

That's.

[Mal]

Yeah, that's what. That's what y'all like.

[Damaris]

According to the Internet, I am now the. That will. While she's pregnant.

[Julian]

I can see why they would think.

[Mal]

I can see why they would think that you stood. You stood on business about that. And if it's not. To go back to the argument, but you were saying, your body, your choice. I get that, but. So it's not. It's not off. It's not. What's his Name Offset. It's not Offset's body in his choice. The why.

[Rory]

His girl's pregnant and his body is a temple.

[Mal]

So only. Only the women get to say, my body, my choice. I could do what I want.

[Damaris]

No, nobody. Nobody said that.

[Mal]

But no, y'all was saying, oh, she got her lick back, I think.

[Damaris]

I don't know. You're confused. It's your body, your choice.

[Mal]

All right. But people were mad. And I agree. That was some. Any if out on your girl while she's pregnant, have sex. You're a clown. We said that. I don't know why they missed that part.

[Rory]

They continue to miss that part.

[Mal]

You're a clown. You step out on your girl while she's home pregnant and you laying down another girl. You're. You're a clown for that. You should be home.

[Damaris]

Wait, you're. I think the issue, and I really don't want to make this a big thing because we talked it into the ground. I think the issue is that, like, if you step out on your girl while she's pregnant, you're a clown. If you step. If you have sex with another man while you're pregnant, you're a whore who needs to be banned and exiled.

[Mal]

Facts.

[Damaris]

I think the difference is the amount of vitriol in one versus the other, because I can't.

[Rory]

I thought it was an even playing.

[Mal]

Field because Offset's not carrying child. He's not bearing life.

[Damaris]

Oh, no, he's not bearing life.

[Rory]

All is saying is women are better. That's what he's saying. You're just missing. It's going over your head. He's suggesting that women are better than men. So you have to be on. You have to be better, and the consequences are crazier. Women have to go to an island to get.

[Mal]

I said savoring women's body.

[Damaris]

You started talking about how sacred women's bodies were. And I've never heard you talk about women's body being sacred ever before. So it was just.

[Julian]

Body's a wonderland.

[Mal]

I'm like. I'm like the. That just treat women like or something.

[Damaris]

I didn't say that.

[Mal]

So what you talking about?

[Damaris]

I just had never heard you talk about spirituality and. And bodies sacred before.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

If you have a life growing inside you.

[Damaris]

So only if the life is grown inside you.

[Mal]

That was my whole. That was the whole point that she.

[Damaris]

But women's bodies aren't sacred even if the life is not grown.

[Mal]

Everybody. Yes, your body is sacred. But I'm saying when you have a. When you have A baby growing inside you. That should really be like. Like get all of these men away from nobody, but not touch me.

[Rory]

Even roaches have kids.

[Mal]

Okay, I don't know what that means. He's calling y'all roaches.

[Julian]

80 minus 72.

[Mal]

Brown skin. The racial tones is out of control right now.

[Julian]

That's crazy. Rory is.

[Mal]

He called you a roach.

[Rory]

You're literally shaking with anger right now.

[Mal]

I have never, ever called a woman in my life.

[Rory]

I was suggesting.

[Mal]

That women are roaches.

[Julian]

No, that all black women are roaches.

[Mal]

All black women have roaches is what I think.

[Rory]

You said that having a child or having kids is a universal thing. It's. It's not like this crazy thing you're making it out to seem. No, it's not like healthcare. Unless you're in Canada with my horrible Rory's family. That up you could put my horn of a great granny. She fled with free health care to get away from.

[Damaris]

Yeah, but you had this shitty accent.

[Rory]

I would have liked to grow up.

[Mal]

In Montreal, one of the greatest cities in the world. Yeah, every time somebody say Montreal, that's what I'm saying.

[Rory]

Yeah, I would have definitely liked to go.

[Julian]

If Roy knew French, that'd be cool.

[Rory]

What. What do you think we can get off the pregnancy thing? It's crazier to a woman that's pregnant without your child or eat. Because to me, that's even crazier. Wait, what if you're a pregnant woman?

[Mal]

Huh?

[Rory]

Like, eating, I think takes it to a whole nother level.

[Mal]

Like, so you think that if a woman is pregnant and a guy is having sex with her, that's not that bad. But if he goes down on her, that's crazy.

[Rory]

Now, you like talking to the. The kid.

[Mal]

Y'all don't.

[Julian]

That's like when you stand baby.

[Mal]

Why you don't kill him the same way you kill me, though. So you give the white boy too much grace. He just called you a roach and you still giving grace.

[Rory]

I gave her $20, that's all.

[Mal]

Oh, my. With my phone now. Let me sell. Let me sell Baby D. Maybe.

[Rory]

Maybe you get some grace.

[Mal]

Yeah, maybe she'll agree with me.

[Rory]

Costing $20 is hilarious.

[Mal]

Yeah, let me send some grace to Baby D so she could not yell at me today because she letting the white boy say some crazy.

[Rory]

What did I say? It was crazy.

[Julian]

Talk to the.

[Mal]

You just said eating them. Eating a girl while she's pregnant is crazy, baby.

[Rory]

Well, not your own girl.

[Mal]

She didn't give you no pushback.

[Damaris]

If I would have Said that I've given up. I've given.

[Mal]

No, don't give up now.

[Rory]

You want to give up when the.

[Mal]

White boys start talking. When I'm talking, you yelling me down. All right, that's what's up.

[Damaris]

No, because you really be believing the. You be saying, he's just being stupid. You believe in 100 the that you saying.

[Mal]

More than half the Internet agree with me, though.

[Rory]

All right, hear me out.

[Damaris]

Men. Men.

[Mal]

It was a lot of women like y'all.

[Damaris]

So y.

[Mal]

Men like us. What does men like? What does that mean? What does men like us that think that is crazy?

[Damaris]

I don't pay too much. I don't pay too much attention to a pygmy. My. My. Like I said, my initial point was not that. It wasn't even crazy. That wasn't my initial point. I would never advise any of my home girls to do that. I would say, are you wilding? I would never. But at the end of the day, my point was for you to say all the women that were cheering Cardi on are and need to be bombed. My point was, this is why women are cheering for this. It's because of this. And also, this isn't really that bad. Scientifically, would I do it and would.

[Mal]

I. Scientifically, yeah, because it is terrible.

[Damaris]

Y'all are supposed to be the logical. Scientifically, y'all are supposed to be the logical sex. So I'm bringing logic into it. You were talking about a whole bunch of other things that have nothing to do with logic. And honestly, it gives that. It was a lot of emotion. I was talking from a logical standpoint, being that y'all are supposed to be the logical sex.

[Mal]

Nothing you said was logical, actually. Okay, nothing you said was logical.

[Damaris]

So everything you went to science, you.

[Mal]

Was like, you can't hurt the baby. You can't affect the baby.

[Damaris]

Yeah, science, logic.

[Mal]

Yes. No, science and logic. It's a difference. Okay, Logically, what you were saying was absolutely crazy.

[Rory]

Okay.

[Mal]

Crazy. And I don't. I don't even know. Can I ask your father if he agree with that? What you think your father would say?

[Damaris]

Another man.

[Mal]

Let me ask your mother that. What you think your mother would say.

[Damaris]

To that for me to do it?

[Mal]

No, no, no, no.

[Damaris]

Not you.

[Mal]

No, not you. Just an older woman that was. You was raised.

[Damaris]

What you got to do? Older women also, your mother would not.

[Mal]

Say, do what you got. See, now you lying.

[Damaris]

Listen, your mother.

[Mal]

If I was to ask your mother. What's your mother's name? Name. No name, stupid. Damaris's. Mom.

[Rory]

Do you.

[Mal]

Would you agree with a woman having sex with another man other than her?

[Damaris]

I never even said that I agreed with it. It's not about agreeing.

[Mal]

Okay. Do you think it's crazy for a woman to lay down with another man while she's pregnant with another man's child? What do you think your mother would say?

[Damaris]

I don't know. I can't speak for you.

[Mal]

I know exactly what you're. Stop. Don't do that.

[Damaris]

I don't know.

[Mal]

Don't do that, Damaris. You know exactly. You know your mother better than anybody. You know exactly what your mother would say to that. What would your mother say to that?

[Damaris]

No clue. I can't speak for. I don't feel comfortable speaking.

[Rory]

I mean, don't speak it for.

[Mal]

You know your mother. I'm not asking you to speak for a woman you don't know. This is your mother.

[Damaris]

I know.

[Julian]

I know you.

[Damaris]

There's some things that you would say that I wouldn't know that you would say.

[Mal]

I can speak. I know exactly what my mother would say. If I had sex with a woman that was pregnant and it wasn't my child.

[Rory]

With my lineage of whores, I don't really know.

[Mal]

No, I know exactly what my mother would say. Exactly is no guess from a lineage.

[Damaris]

First of all, don't do your mother like that. Because her great great grandmother was spreading twat.

[Rory]

My mom took my dad from her roommate. I know the cloth I'm cut from.

[Damaris]

That's bullshit. Bullshit. She took them and it had you. It was supposed to be.

[Mal]

Yeah, but nobody was pregnant, though. No, exactly my point. Not saying wild shit don't happen. Pregnancy is like, yo, you tripping.

[Rory]

This how ill my dad is, right? So my dad was dating my mom's roommate, convinced her to buy him a motorcycle or like a Suzuki joint, and then broke up with her. To my mom, gangster.

[Mal]

That's how you do it.

[Rory]

Hard.

[Damaris]

And had a whole family for a little while.

[Mal]

Gangster.

[Rory]

A little while. It's crazy.

[Damaris]

Sorry. Sorry.

[Mal]

He was there for a little bit.

[Rory]

I mean, what did my mother expect my dad to do? Patterns don't change.

[Julian]

She took that motorcycle and rode down the bottom.

[Mal]

Baltimore. He rode all the way to Seattle, Yo. He rolled from New York to Seattle on a motorcycle.

[Rory]

I don't know the roommate's name.

[Mal]

Playing Bon Jovi.

[Rory]

How she didn't murder my whole family, I do not know. Imagine buying a dude a motorcycle and then he leaves you for your roommate.

[Damaris]

Ball up top. You gotta eat that.

[Mal]

And then the girl that bought It. He rolled with her on the back of his motorcycle to Seattle playing Bon Jovi. That's how you do it.

[Damaris]

You gotta eat that.

[Mal]

Yeah, but nobody was pregnant.

[Damaris]

I can't wait till I get. When I get literally coming here and I'm gonna tell. I'm gonna. Even if I'm not on this podcast anymore, I'm gonna call them all and tell them all. Damn all. Sitting up here thinking about some other dick that I could just not even undo it just to piss you off.

[Mal]

And I'm gonna give a. A preacher your number and tell them to call you and pray them demons up off you and get your spirit.

[Rory]

First of all, preachers be the one probably fucking pregnant women.

[Damaris]

Oh, for sure.

[Mal]

I'm sorry you had to go through that.

[Rory]

I wasn't pregnant.

[Julian]

That was a good molest joke. That was good.

[Rory]

It was good.

[Julian]

It's a good shot, Julianne. He made the joke. I'm just letting.

[Mal]

Yeah, the marriage. Shut up. Why you laughing? Why you mad at in the crowd laughing? Shut up. Yo, I can't take the marriage to no comedy club. She'll tell you why. That's not right. Why y'all laughing?

[Rory]

Like I told you, go to math. Rory did that so you don't have to go through that.

[Mal]

Yeah, Rory cried so we could laugh. There you go. See?

[Julian]

Tears of joy. Turn the tears of pain.

[Rory]

But in his defense, I wasn't pregnant, Right?

[Mal]

See?

[Damaris]

Oh, so he's not that bad.

[Mal]

So he's not that bad.

[Damaris]

But yes, Me. Me personally, I would never sleep with somebody while I was pregnant.

[Rory]

He still was another kid.

[Mal]

Yeah, but it's not that bad.

[Rory]

I was not molested by a priest. I just want to make that clear.

[Mal]

Oh my God, that's hilarious.

[Rory]

Okay, after three episodes, we can finally close this pregnancy thing. Damaris does not believe we should have a second Hiroshima with the women that have sex while they're pregnant and we can just move on, right?

[Mal]

No, it's.

[Rory]

It's closed. Like we're done with this.

[Damaris]

I've been dying for it to be closed.

[Mal]

I bet you have. God damn killing you.

[Damaris]

I don't give a.

[Mal]

No, I mean, I know you don't care, but they've been killing you.

[Rory]

Mal said maybe you should. Never mind.

[Mal]

What?

[Rory]

What More said no, maybe they should close their legs.

[Mal]

When I said that sound like something.

[Rory]

I never said it.

[Julian]

Nine minus.

[Mal]

I know I didn't say that.

[Damaris]

So when I said he said that sound like something.

[Mal]

It sound like something I would say, but I never said it.

[Rory]

Though we would Close this topic. If they close their legs.

[Mal]

Those are my intrusive thoughts. Maybe only.

[Rory]

Just my thoughts.

[Mal]

Just my thoughts. Just my thoughts, man.

[Julian]

I know. We're queuing up the transition.

[Rory]

I love it. I am at the edge of my seat. Mal's affiliations have finally come to a head.

[Julian]

Which will crumble first.

[Rory]

What side are you going to go with Roc? A fella or ovo?

[Mal]

I have no idea what you're talking about.

[Rory]

Over the weekend, Drake did a. What are the kids called? A photo dump, if you will.

[Mal]

Okay.

[Rory]

And he posted a photo of Solange leaving the elevator after her and Hov got into it in the standard. Years and years and years ago. And then also right after that, no photo in between. Posted a photo of Aaliyah. We know him to be an Aaliyah fan, but it is a little odd when you go from Solange right? To Aaliyah and Hove. And Aaliyah obviously have somewhat of a history. We don't know what it is, but they have a history. Whose side are you going to take?

[Mal]

I'm not taking. So I don't even know what this is about.

[Rory]

Or will you be the middleman, like, moderator? You're the one that can sit everyone down. You're like, the problem.

[Mal]

Which one? Which one of these weird accounts you follow that came up with this? That put this together?

[Rory]

I follow Drake.

[Mal]

So because he posted. What else did he post?

[Rory]

It's not a weird account. No, it's. It's his verified Champagne Poppy account. I follow.

[Mal]

So because he posted a picture of Solange and a picture of Aaliyah, people are saying that he's throwing shots at Oats.

[Rory]

I mean, why else in that photo dump of all the other things, he was, like, plugging his new Nike line and then randomly throws in a photo of Solange and then Aaliyah right after.

[Mal]

So he gotta be talking to Jay.

[Rory]

Who. Who would he be talking to?

[Mal]

I don't know. I'm just. I'm just. I'm trying to figure it out.

[Rory]

I don't think it's that crazy that all of us are thinking that had somewhat of a shot towards Jay and we. To put those two and two together. I don't think it's a crazy thought.

[Damaris]

Okay, well, what's the shot? So, hypothetically, if we're doing.

[Mal]

Because y'all just taking. Was it a. So it was a dump, you're saying? Right. Because from that picture, that screenshot, it looks like there's some previous pictures posted there.

[Rory]

Yeah, he was. So what else was posted his new clothes. He was also outside over the weekend. He was performing somewhere.

[Mal]

The nostalgia event in. In Toronto. Yeah.

[Julian]

Which he had some comments during that show, if you guys wanna.

[Mal]

I'm gonna tell you one thing about nostalgia. One thing about nostalgia.

[Rory]

This party here, my real, real friends.

[Mal]

Are definitely in the building. But I'm going to tell you, you're.

[Rory]

Going to come to a point in.

[Mal]

Life where people you thought were friends or people you thought were close.

[Rory]

It's rough when people are talking over their speech. At that point they should. Like, that's when the crowd's telling you, just play a song.

[Damaris]

Yeah, yeah.

[Julian]

It's the classic. It's. It's you versus the world. You'll realize you're alone. No one's true to your friends. And then he started by saying, I'm here with my real friends, so.

[Mal]

So, yeah. Well, I heard the nostalgia event was dope. A few people in Toronto know that they was there for that. Said it was a dope event.

[Rory]

Okay. So after he does his friends rant, there's a Jay Z song on CLB called Friends. I believe he just picked Kendrick Lamar for the Super Bowl. You don't think there's any connection with Drake randomly posting a photo of Solange coming out of that elevator after fighting Jay Z and then posting Aaliyah right after that, which we all know has a history with Jay Z, so that you think that was just a random photo dump? Like, he just liked those photos. They were just in his camera roll.

[Damaris]

That song is also not called Friends. But it is about that.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Sort of.

[Damaris]

Clarify.

[Mal]

I mean. Okay. I mean, it's a stretch, but. Okay.

[Julian]

Is it?

[Mal]

I think so.

[Damaris]

I too, think it's. I think it's a stress stretch without proof.

[Julian]

Proof.

[Rory]

I think it's. First of all, Kendrick Lamar just got chosen to do the super bowl, which, from what we understand, is Jay Z's decision. So you don't think it's odd that Drake then randomly posts a photo after a woman was whooping his ass in an elevator of all the photos of Solange? Because Solange has some amazing photos. Beautiful woman. He chose that photo the day. He must just be a Solange fan. That's what it is, right?

[Damaris]

No, but that picture stands for, like, it doesn't have to be towards Jay Z. I'm not saying that it's not, and I wouldn't be surprised if it was. But I'm also saying it could be.

[Rory]

Plus, it was an elevator.

[Damaris]

It has nothing to do with that. That could be representative of Something else. Like, okay, if I post a picture of Teanna Trump, it doesn't mean that I'm sucking Mr. Marcus dick. It could be that I just suck my own man dick. It's a difference. Like, it could just apply to situations.

[Rory]

So your suggestion. So you're suggesting Drake was just beat up in an elevator by a.

[Damaris]

No.

[Rory]

Okay.

[Damaris]

I'm suggesting that he might be saying that he's beating somebody up or that he might know a secret that nobody knows. There's multiple connotations that you could put towards just playing devil's advocate, but not.

[Rory]

Not towards Jay Z, who just selected his arch nemesis for the Super Bowl.

[Damaris]

It's possible.

[Rory]

And then also put out a promo video where he was dissing me in the super bowl promo. Right.

[Damaris]

It's possible. I'm not saying.

[Julian]

Why are we tiptoeing around it?

[Rory]

He. He must just be a fantasy to the table, like I am.

[Julian]

I don't get why we're, like, fringing. You're edging 1,000 shot of Jay.

[Rory]

Of course he is. I don't really know the Aaliyah one. Whatever. But.

[Julian]

Well, the only one is because the alleged underage relationship, that she was underage when they. She. Which is, you know. Sure. That's another.

[Rory]

It's not true, because when hove met Ali, I believe she was of age. No, I don't know.

[Damaris]

When Aaliyah was under age, she was married R. Kelly.

[Rory]

Yeah. Which was disgusting. And put out a song called AJ Nothing, but Neither here nor there. The fact that y'all think this could just be a coincidence is hilarious.

[Mal]

I mean, I just need more context. I'm not taking. What. Somebody clipped two pictures from a story, and then, oh, he going at Jay like. Which give me more context than just two pictures from a story on.

[Damaris]

Well, the context would be the Kendrick super bowl shit. That would be the context.

[Julian]

And with this context, Rory's been pretty open about, like, verses that people think were suited from Drake to fit other artists. He's like, this is about Jay. You've been pretty vocal about verses in the past that were directly about Jay.

[Mal]

People gonna do that forever.

[Rory]

They have a very weird relationship.

[Mal]

Again, people gonna say that forever. That doesn't mean that. It's what it is. Just because people say it and people allude to it, and people think that, oh, this is a shot at Jay. It cannot be a shot at Jay at all. All right, then who on the other side? I've heard people for years think that Jay was shooting at other artists. Like, yo, that gotta be a Shot at and be in the studio. Like, I don't even know who that dude is.

[Rory]

Ma. If a girl beats me up in an elevator and then you post a screenshot of her coming out of that elevator, who is that shot at?

[Mal]

Give me more context to the. The pictures on the story, though. What else was on you just telling me about.

[Rory]

I told you. He was posting photos from. From the event end of the line. Like, he just randomly snuck those two in there. I could see if he. If it was 45 photos of a bunch of random. It's like, all right, maybe we're overthinking this. No, it was in the middle of promoting his nude clothing.

[Mal]

Let me see if those pictures are still up. Let me try to make some sense of this, because I don't know what y'all talking about.

[Rory]

The sense is that he was taking a shot at Sean Carter. Yeah, that's like, pissed off at Jay for doing that.

[Damaris]

But he posted.

[Mal]

All right, so he posts all he posted. He posts some pics from Nostalgia. Then he posts some caption. All my dogs are going to heaven. Then he posts the ovo owl, then the picture of Solange, then the picture of Aaliyah holding the dog. All my dogs going to heaven. Is this some tie in there? No. Or is that just a shot of Jay?

[Rory]

I love the cartoon too.

[Mal]

Is that just a shot of Jay, or is Aaliyah holding a dog and him tweeting before that. Oh, my dog's going to heaven.

[Rory]

I'm even compromising with you that the Aaliyah thing we could just leave over here.

[Mal]

No, don't do the tie in with. Don't just leave it over there. Don't just leave it over there. Because that was part of the picture that you just brought up.

[Rory]

I could say he has been an Aaliyah fan his whole career.

[Mal]

He got a picture of a doge magazine like Vogue. A picture of that. What does that have to do with.

[Rory]

Salons coming out of the elevator? Yeah, probably.

[Mal]

He got a picture of Dennis Rodman when a dog ran onto the court back in the 90s holding a dog, barking too much.

[Rory]

So is he calling Solange dog?

[Mal]

He got pictures of two dogs. It's always, sit, stay, heel, never think, innovate, be yourself. Where's the tie into that? Is that a shot at J2?

[Rory]

No.

[Mal]

So it's just a picture of Solange. That's a shot.

[Rory]

So what? Can you tell me how the Solange thing ties into everything you did there? She was a dog in that elevator.

[Mal]

It goes from all my dogs going are going to heaven. A picture of Solange. Don't know what that means. But then right after that, it's a picture of Aaliyah. Rest in peace, obviously, we pray that her spirit is in heaven. She's holding a dog in that picture. She did. This was the video with dmx. Ok, yeah, these are all shots at Jay is what I'm asking you.

[Rory]

No, you're actually proving my point even more because every single photo has something to do to tie in with each other, except for that Solange one. So, yes, that is a shot at Jay.

[Mal]

Or maybe you missed the tie in.

[Rory]

With it that she's a dog. I mean, she went crazy in the elevator.

[Mal]

I don't know. I'm just. I'm just combating what you're saying. I'm not. I'm just saying people got to stop jumping to think that, yo, he going at Jay Z. Like, why is that? Why that gotta be what's happening here.

[Rory]

No, no, you're right. I didn't see the poetry in it. Where Dennis Rodman, who was a dog on the court, greatest rebounder.

[Mal]

No, he's actually holding a dog in the picture. Walking a dog off the ground.

[Rory]

Solange was not holding a dog in the Standard.

[Mal]

Again, we don't know there was no.

[Rory]

Dog in that elevator.

[Mal]

We may have missed the tie in is what I'm saying. You may have missed it. You may. You just not. May not have enough information.

[Rory]

Tie my shoes. Tie it together.

[Damaris]

Okay, but you might not understand, though.

[Mal]

Me? No, I went through the whole. I'm going through the story, trying to. Don't just show me two pictures. Say he going at Jay Z. Come on, bro, that's. We gotta dig deeper. That's too easy to say. He's going at Jay Z. That's way too easy. Dig deep. Okay.

[Rory]

Why is he.

[Mal]

All my dogs are going to heaven, bro. I don't know. I'm just. I'm asking you.

[Rory]

But out of all the Solange. Like, you've seen Solange's Instagram, her ex husband was a director. She has some of the greatest photo shoots I've ever seen in my life. Why did he take a screen grab from her walking out of an elevator after whooping Jay Z's ass?

[Mal]

Oh, I don't know.

[Damaris]

It literally could be me, anything. Go to or anybody. I'm not saying it's not about Jay, but I'm also saying I'm not so convinced. Like, oh, this is for sure a shot.

[Mal]

That's all I'm Saying like. I'm just saying, let's just look another. At another angle here. Why is it.

[Damaris]

And I don't have any reason if.

[Rory]

People want to see another angle.

[Mal]

Angle you don't know. You can't see. That's why I'm saying you don't know everything about.

[Damaris]

Yeah, you don't know everything about.

[Rory]

So why not choose another photo of Solange if you want to show that she's a dog?

[Mal]

You can't say that, bro. You can't say that. There's no other angle. You not. You're not in Drake's head. You don't know what he's. What he's doing with this. And that's how shit starts. People say, yo, he going at Jay's. Why do people just assume that that's what this is? There's seven other pictures after this. You want to tie all of those Seven. The Dog magazine, Vogue magazine playoff. That's a shot at Jay Z, too.

[Rory]

I didn't say it was.

[Mal]

So just that one picture is the shot of Jay.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Okay. All right, well, if you think that, then, I mean, maybe it is. I'm just trying to tie it all in.

[Rory]

You are playing dumb right now. If.

[Mal]

How All My Dogs Are Going to Heaven. He posted that before he posted any of these pictures and then proceeded to. To post it. That has something to do with Dog Ma.

[Rory]

If you got into an altercation with a woman in an elevator that went more than viral, and then you and I may have a bit of a Tiffany bit of an issue, and then I post on my story a screenshot of that said woman coming out of an elevator. Am I not taking a shot at you?

[Mal]

But let me ask you this, though. Why do you think that Jay Z and Drake have a tift?

[Rory]

Because they've both publicly talked about it.

[Mal]

When has Jay Z publicly talked about a tiff with Drake?

[Rory]

I'm sorry. I'm sorry, Miss Drizzy. For all the artwork. Talk like he's. He's distant. What are you talking about?

[Mal]

Cut it out, man. Cut it out. He has not dissed him. Cut it out. He's not done that. That.

[Julian]

Oh.

[Rory]

Actually, Drake's real issue is not what he said on record. What he does behind the scenes. That's bigger than a dis to me. The. What you doing behind my back. All the powers that be coming together to end my run. Like. Yeah, he's talking about.

[Mal]

Right, okay, but now you talking about some behind the scenes. I'm talking about. Show me somewhere where Jay Z has said he has an issue with Drake. Show me somewhere where Jay Z has alluded that he has an issue with Drake on record.

[Rory]

I'm sorry, Ms. Drizzy, for all the art talk. Sorry for rapping about the. That I bought.

[Mal]

That means I have an issue with.

[Rory]

You called him Ms. Jersey.

[Mal]

Oh, my God. Y'all are crazy, man.

[Rory]

But they've had records, bro.

[Mal]

Just say y'all want to see a Drake. Jay Z. I don't.

[Rory]

I don't. Honestly, don't.

[Mal]

Just say it if you're doing all of this for a picture.

[Rory]

I don't want to see HOV in a rap battle at his age, to be quite honest.

[Mal]

I'm just saying we can't. We got to stop taking what we think is a diss or a shot. Or sometimes it's not that. Sometimes we just. We just. It's easy to say that that's a shot. He talking about Jay Z or he talking about this rapper or that person. Like, my mind doesn't go to that all the time.

[Rory]

Like, so, again, I will ask, where does your mind go with posting that specific photo, bro?

[Mal]

I don't. I'm trying to tie in the entire post that all my dogs are going to heaven, and then everything posted after that. That's all I'm saying. Now, that picture is the only picture that he probably posted after that that doesn't have a dog in the photo or alluding to anything dog related. So there's something eyebrow raising there because it's like, all right, there's no dog in this picture. Little odd, but that doesn't mean it's a shot at Jay Z. That's all I'm saying. That's all I'm saying. I think it's too easy for people to say, yo, they talking about Jay Z, or he talking about Jay Z, or they talking about Jay Z.

[Rory]

Just hired my OPP for this fucking super bowl, did a promo video, dissing me, and then. Then Drake posts a Solange photo coming out of an elevator after she assaulted Jay Z, and you're telling me that those two things are not connected at all? Please tell me what fucking world I'm in. Please.

[Mal]

All right, so you got that off. You happy now? So first of all, Apple does the Apple does the super bowl show.

[Rory]

Put me on the island with all the horse.

[Mal]

Does Apple do the super bowl show? The super bowl halftime?

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Is Kendrick not one of the largest streaming artists on. On Apple right now?

[Rory]

Probably.

[Mal]

So that's how they choose who? That's who they ask. They go they start from the top. Who's streaming the most? Who has the most monthly listeners on Apple right now? We reach out. Whoever turns it down, we just go to the next person. Yes, it's obvious they landed on Kendrick because of the year he's had, streaming wise. Yeah, Jay doesn't make that call by himself.

[Julian]

He has the final decision. He does have the final who produces the entire show. Said Jay Z is the ultimate decider for who.

[Mal]

But they have a list of people that they reach out to and they go at first. Which is why Drake turning down the super bowl turned into Shakira and J. Lo doing the Super Bowl. They asked, you wanna do it? Nah, not really. Doesn't benefit me right now. Don't have no project coming out. It's not a paid gig. It would only help me if I was. Had an album coming. So no, I'm not doing it. Whatever reason that people turn down the super bowl, it doesn't benefit them at the moment. Cool. Just because Jay is there now. He's in charge of the halftime show and Kendrick is performing. Kendrick probably. If Jay was. Wasn't there at all, Kendrick probably would've got it.

[Rory]

But see, this is where I think we would actually agree on Drake having the right to feel upset at hov the same way.

[Mal]

That's a different conversation.

[Rory]

When the Schoolboy Q when the Schoolboy Q show got shut down was like, yo, that's corny. Or Drake doing. If you're in a video where I'm being called a pedophile and I have the ability to shut your show down in my city, I'm going to do it. Like I. Okay. I think Drake has a right to feel away about the people that are in a visual that is calling me a pedophile. So now not mad at that at all. Now if Jay Z gives an artist the opportunity to call me a pedophile at the Super Bowl. Jay Z.

[Mal]

But what Rory.

[Rory]

So of course Drake has every right.

[Mal]

Rory, departure. Miss.

[Rory]

I was there for this photo. It was awkward. I was right there. It was very awkward.

[Julian]

I'm recounting while the. While they're having the discussion, I'm going over a timeline of them trading shots. And it's pretty direct and obvious when they're talking about each other stemming all the way Back to like 2012, 13. So there's a well documented timeline. Rory, you said you were here for this photo. What was the story behind this?

[Rory]

This was at in Detroit at On the Run too. It was awkward.

[Julian]

First photo that they had together by the way in five years, shout out.

[Rory]

To Raven who took it.

[Mal]

Why was it awkward?

[Rory]

You're gonna make me a snitch. I don't leave it alone.

[Mal]

You're saying the picture's awkward. Why is it awkward? It.

[Rory]

The picture wasn't awkward.

[Julian]

All right, say that we. If we take it out, if we don't want to share, but I still want to know why.

[Mal]

Listen, the bottom line is even conversation. The bottom line is this. Even if Jay Z wasn't had nothing to do with the super bowl halftime show, Kendrick probably would have gotten it this year anyway. Yeah, that's just the bottom line.

[Julian]

I don't think so.

[Mal]

So how he was. His streaming numbers would say that he would get it. What are you talking about?

[Julian]

They've never had a rapper headline a Super Bowl. So I. To say that Kendrick would get it is very unlikely.

[Mal]

The streaming that Kendrick did and he's always streamed. Well, first of all, I don't want to just make it seem like because of this back and forth with Drake.

[Rory]

He did an arena tour.

[Mal]

Kendrick always streams well every year. He's one of the best streaming artists on DSPs. We know that now as a result of the beef and the back and forth with another artist who streams probably better than most of the world. Yes, obviously, his streaming numbers go up. So his name is now definitely one of the first names in the pot of who are we going to get to do the halftime show this year. Whether Jay Z is there or not. I believe that this would have happened. He would have gotten an offer is what I'm saying. Whether he takes the offer or not, it's up to him. But I believe he would have gotten offered this if Jay Z was a part of this decision making or not this year.

[Rory]

But I'll even go on the OVO side here of saying, of course it helped. The beef definitely helped with that decision.

[Mal]

Of course it did. I'm not denying that it helped, but it helped because. And if I'm numbers, because I'm gonna keep his numbers. Started streaming again. He streams well, no matter what. But obviously it spiked during that beef.

[Rory]

And I'm saying after you just went on a whole rant of people betraying you and everyone in the industry that you thought was friends is doing weird shit. Jay goes and does that gives someone an opportunity to call me a pedophile on the biggest stage on earth. Yeah, I don't think that the Solange photo is just tied to something else. Like it's a direct shot of Jay Z. Okay, well, that's Just my opinion.

[Mal]

If you think that, cool. I'm not mad at that. But I'm just saying, looking at the whole story, I'm trying to tie it in, and I'm like, okay, so that was just the only shot of Jay, because then you said aaliyah. It was two pictures there. So now I'm looking at the whole story, trying to figure out, all right, where are y'all connecting? Because if I'm wrong, cool. Then show me I'm wrong. I'm just saying, looking at that story, I wouldn't say, damn, he going at Jay. That wouldn't be the first thing that. That popped out of my mind.

[Rory]

No, I agree to disagree. How'd you guys feel about Kendrick submitting all of not like us to every category of the Grammys? I think it's up for country song of the year. He submitted to everything.

[Damaris]

His label. Well, not his label, but his team is doing what they're supposed to do.

[Julian]

Yeah, he is his team.

[Damaris]

He has more than just him.

[Rory]

I think PG Lang has a few. Few employees.

[Mal]

Yeah, he's a few people over there.

[Rory]

It's just Dave and Kendrick in his kitchen.

[Mal]

That's just a few people.

[Rory]

Nice little startup. Yeah. Keem's there.

[Julian]

Keem. Yeah.

[Rory]

I didn't really see the crazy backlash. I didn't really understand it of, like, Kendrick's so anti industry. Why would he ever submit to the industry? I mean, he's always submitted record of.

[Julian]

The year, song of the year, Best rap performance, Best rap song, and best music video, though. Five awards.

[Rory]

What if he cleans up?

[Damaris]

He'll probably. He'll probably.

[Rory]

What if he's standing there like Lauren Hill? You know that photo when she has all the Grammys and it's just Kendrick in some baggy pants and some church shoes?

[Julian]

Kendrick is up in his.

[Damaris]

Man. He'll probably get best rap song. I would. I think they're gonna give that to him. Best rap song and best music video.

[Julian]

Maybe he'll win at least two of these.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Best music Video.

[Damaris]

I don't know. I'm just.

[Julian]

That music video is hard.

[Mal]

That music video ain't better than asap. Rocky's video. I wouldn't give a.

[Julian]

What you.

[Damaris]

I don't think ASAP will a.

[Mal]

That's one of the best videos I've ever seen.

[Rory]

Great video. But I. He might clean up in this entire. All five of these.

[Damaris]

I don't think so. Not the Grammys at the hip. At a hip hop award show, but not at the Grammys.

[Rory]

It's all Best Rap performance. It's all rap.

[Damaris]

No, it's not. This song of the year and record of the year.

[Rory]

Oh, I'm sorry.

[Damaris]

Yeah, okay.

[Rory]

Yeah, no, that's not gonna. But anything in the rap category. He's winning without question.

[Mal]

Yes.

[Rory]

Best rap Performance. Best rap song. Tell me what rap song is winning if not.

[Damaris]

He said. That's why I said he's definitely winning Best Raps.

[Julian]

Oh, yeah, that's true. So Demers is right to. Only two of these five submissions are for rap categories. Rap specific categories. So that even the music videos for all music videos. That's tough. He's going up against. I think we'll get two of these. And then if he steals which one's.

[Mal]

Best rap performance and best Rap Song.

[Julian]

I think he'll win those two. Anything rap related, he'll win.

[Rory]

I think they'll give him best rap song and probably try to even it out out. And best rap performance will go to someone else.

[Mal]

I gotta see who else is in the category.

[Rory]

Yeah, I just wanted like, do they air best rap Song? I don't think they do.

[Damaris]

No.

[Rory]

That'd be a wild acceptance speech.

[Damaris]

They might be so smart if the producers are smart, but they be having these old ass people who don't know their ass from their elbows.

[Rory]

Does he even go?

[Mal]

Kendrick?

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Well, yeah.

[Mal]

He going.

[Julian]

Is he gonna wear the crown?

[Mal]

Is he going?

[Rory]

I don't know.

[Damaris]

Right.

[Mal]

He going to the Grammys? Hell yeah, he gonna.

[Damaris]

His outfit laid on the bed like first day.

[Mal]

Is he going? He might open up the auditorium.

[Julian]

Some Cortez's.

[Rory]

Does he perform?

[Julian]

That'd be crazy.

[Damaris]

Yes.

[Rory]

Well, one of the biggest songs of the year.

[Julian]

When is the Grammys?

[Rory]

Because January, February.

[Julian]

Now this is the thing with the clause. Would there be a clause in the super bowl contract where he can't do any other public performance in or around, you know, a 60 day window or something? Probably.

[Damaris]

Oh, probably.

[Julian]

He probably won't. I would. I would assume he won't be able to perform for the Grammys.

[Rory]

That would be. Dog. We thought it was crazy to have a pedophile record at the Super Bowl. Imagine somebody performing that at the Granny.

[Julian]

The Super Bowl's bigger.

[Mal]

Yeah, pretty much.

[Julian]

Do you guys think that Drake sent. There's all these reports of Drake and sending a CND for the record not to be able to be played during the Super Bowl.

[Rory]

I don't think that's true whatsoever. Yeah, I don't think so.

[Damaris]

Yeah, I don't.

[Rory]

But I don't know. We have a lot of time before January and February. But this is never going away as much as I thought people were going to move on.

[Damaris]

Oh, I'm so ready for it.

[Rory]

I know what. But once we get to December and November, we have to do the recap of the year. So everyone's gonna just talk about it again. Like, that was the biggest part of this year. So we're just gonna revisit it and then we're gonna Grammys and we go to Super Bowl. It's never going to end.

[Julian]

And then, allegedly, Kendrick's plan is a major stadium tour or following the Super Bowl. So Roy and I were discussing before we recorded this, does this mean an album is sure to follow?

[Rory]

For sure. And we don't know if this report is real or not, but if he's doing stadiums after the super bowl, we will get an album before the super bowl for sure. Week of. There's no way he's going to do a stadium tour without a new album. That's also a big risk. And I'm want to make it very clear to all our west coast listeners. DJ Head, everyone, we love Kendrick. We think he's amazing. That's a risk for any artist. That's not an arena, a stadium tour. That's Taylor Swift.

[Damaris]

Beyonce as well.

[Rory]

Of course.

[Damaris]

Thank you.

[Rory]

That's. Yeah, that's wild, bro.

[Mal]

No, but stadiums is. He.

[Rory]

That's a different monster.

[Mal]

Yeah, but I mean, a tour I.

[Rory]

Could see doing us. I could see him doing MetLife in New York or what's. What's the. In LA now, Sophie, I could see him doing that. But a stadium tour?

[Mal]

Well, maybe that's it. Maybe it's only gonna be like six cities.

[Rory]

Okay.

[Mal]

It ain't gonna be like 30 dates.

[Rory]

But if he's about to put an album out coming off the super bowl and wants to do a tour. Yeah, he probably at the same cities and do international.

[Mal]

No, International year.

[Damaris]

International.

[Julian]

Yeah, he'd crush any stadium. Crazy, for sure. And staying on, turning down offers. Coachella allegedly reached out to Kendrick and Rihanna separately to headline, and they both turned it down for 20, 25.

[Rory]

Okay. Damn.

[Damaris]

They ain't got their own, like, artists like, of like their generation. Like.

[Rory]

Like Pearl Jam.

[Damaris]

No, but like.

[Julian]

You mean like young white people.

[Rory]

Yes.

[Damaris]

Not even just white, but just young people.

[Rory]

Matchbox 20.

[Damaris]

Like, Kendrick and Rihanna don't even make put albums out anymore. Y'all trying to get her a headline. Coachella, like, yeah, why not?

[Rory]

Wait, Beyonce Homecoming. There wasn't an album around that, right? I mean, I know they shot the documentary, obviously. Around when she did.

[Damaris]

And she released the Homecoming album. But that was all the same song.

[Rory]

She put like one new record on there.

[Damaris]

Yeah, but Beyonce wasn't. Beyonce was still active in music. Like her out. The album that she performed wasn't that old. And then an album came out not too much longer after.

[Rory]

But Coachella headlining is not typically always like the album cycle. They do do a lot of legacy acts they have that aren't super active at the time. That's kind of a their thing when it comes to the headliner. Even like Frank.

[Julian]

They tried with Frank. Yeah.

[Rory]

Just couldn't get him. That skating rink in the desert.

[Damaris]

I mean, I get that. I get that, but Rihanna just didn't.

[Rory]

Think about that until the ice got there.

[Damaris]

I get that. If Rihanna didn't just do the super bowl, like, she would be doing what she did at the super bowl at Facts.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Coachella.

[Rory]

No, I'm actually glad she turned it down because I would like to see the Rihanna Coachella documentary live stream everything around a new. New project.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Or like years down the line on some super legacy stuff. I'm glad she. I wouldn't want to see Rihanna now eventually. I would love to, though.

[Mal]

So who headlines coach?

[Julian]

There's nothing yet. It is just. This is the first report.

[Mal]

They're still trying to. They still trying to find somebody to headline it.

[Julian]

I guess so. Last year was Lana Del Reytar, the creator and Doja Cat. Year before that, Bad Bunny, Blackpink, Frank Ocean.

[Damaris]

So Sabrina Claudio will be on the. Will we probably be headlining?

[Julian]

Sabrina Carpenter.

[Damaris]

Carpenter. Why do I keep saying Claudia?

[Rory]

I was about to say I love Sabrina. Claudia. No, I didn't know she was giving up like that. She's headlining.

[Damaris]

I don't know if Coachella give her that, though.

[Julian]

She's built for it.

[Rory]

I could see it. I could definitely see it.

[Damaris]

With the year that she had, maybe.

[Rory]

Nikki coming off a tour set's already together.

[Mal]

Coachella in April.

[Rory]

As long as Safari is at Coachella, then I'm cool with it. I'm trying to be SBS plus one. I would have went to that show with Safari.

[Mal]

No, you wouldn't have.

[Rory]

We thought. We thought it was crazy that Offset showed up to the club that Cardi was hosting.

[Mal]

Yeah. Girls concert is crazy.

[Rory]

Safari went in ga to his ex's.

[Mal]

That's just. Wow.

[Damaris]

He was partying with the Barbs.

[Rory]

Like, I wonder what that was like, him moving around that arena. Because barbs, we all know, are a certain level of human being. They're a passionate bunch.

[Julian]

We'll Say, are you calling them roaches?

[Rory]

No. I mean, once I get the broomstick out of my ass, I can. I can sweep up the. The roaches around me.

[Mal]

I still can't believe Nikki told you to put a broom up your ass.

[Rory]

It was an interesting day.

[Mal]

Yo. Only you would have, like. Only Nikki would tell you to put a broom in your ass. She's probably never said that to anybody.

[Rory]

And what's funny is I was saying something to her that I think every music fan wanted to say to her.

[Mal]

Yeah. Like, she just didn't like it.

[Rory]

Focusing on people that dislike. You have one of the best fan bases we've ever seen in history.

[Mal]

She didn't like it.

[Rory]

Focus on the millions of people.

[Mal]

But it was your face. It was your white face. Was.

[Rory]

It was the same conversation that we had with Russ.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

When Russ is like, I don't understand. Like, I say everything correctly and I'm like, well, it's your face.

[Mal]

It's your face. That's all.

[Rory]

We can't.

[Damaris]

A little. Russ looks spicy white. You just look white.

[Rory]

That's true. His long hair definitely gives him.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Some effect. But he. They just an Italian from Jersey.

[Mal]

Like, beat out Sassoon. That's the only difference between Rory and Russ.

[Rory]

Also, the talent level Russ has is way higher than mine.

[Damaris]

Yeah, a little bit.

[Rory]

There is, like, a few more differences.

[Julian]

That's the only one.

[Mal]

Shout out.

[Rory]

Literally the only difference.

[Damaris]

Hot too.

[Mal]

Shout out to.

[Rory]

He's an attractive guy, Russ. So no one has comments about Safari being at that show. Rapping along to some. He probably owed. Owed some. Pub on.

[Damaris]

I'm crying some. He probably wrote.

[Rory]

And also, didn't Nikki do. Was that the first time she had her husband on stage to do that whole segment?

[Mal]

Oh, I didn't see the performance.

[Rory]

Again, I'm sorry if I'm giving bad information. I have been seeing clips from gag City. I'm. I'm not a resident yet. Yet. I would like to see the show. But from my understanding, I've never seen her husband on stage with her until this show. Right.

[Damaris]

They got.

[Rory]

They got video footage of Safari watching her talk about soulmates.

[Julian]

Damn.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

And what. So he was watching her when she said, you know, if you stick with a clown, you won't find your soulmate.

[Rory]

Pretty much.

[Mal]

Oh, you gotta let the like stop with clowns to find yourself.

[Julian]

That's her man right there.

[Rory]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Damaris]

It's her husband.

[Julian]

Stadium must not be near a school.

[Rory]

Can't. Can't tell by the jail shoulders.

[Mal]

Jail shoulders.

[Rory]

A lot of upper body workout. Jail show didn't do a lot of lower body.

[Mal]

I gotta catch this show, man.

[Damaris]

Yeah, they were saying you're not a.

[Mal]

Real barb until I go to the show. Right? Yeah, I got. I gotta catch. I gotta look at the rest of the schedule.

[Rory]

Can you imagine being the obsessed bar that finally gets to go see your idol perform, Go through all her hits. You get into your seat and then you look to your left and it's safari.

[Damaris]

That's just added on to the. I didn't even pay for this type of energy.

[Rory]

That's a thousand dollar meet and greet in my opinion.

[Mal]

Yeah, that's definitely worth it. That's worth the ticket for sure.

[Rory]

Do you think Nikki got a heads up that he was there?

[Damaris]

No.

[Julian]

At that point, does it matter? You're in a stadium.

[Rory]

Also, who did safari go with? Like, I'm trying to think of what homeboy I would call when I'm about to do some dumb like this.

[Julian]

He's having a great time.

[Rory]

Ride with me on this dumb. Instead of being a good friend and advise me, like, maybe you should just watch the live stream, bro. You don't need to go to the venue.

[Mal]

Yeah, that's just like. And is that security standing there around?

[Julian]

Look, he's with his boys in Miami. That guy next to him got a whole Nicky shirt on.

[Mal]

He got security with him.

[Damaris]

Hey, maybe, but that's just like the offset.

[Rory]

This would be the most dangerous place safari's ever been in his life.

[Mal]

So why go?

[Damaris]

I don't think so, though. I think it's like the offset cardi thing. Like, y'all broke up the fam. Don't the fam. We with you. It ain't really no beef.

[Mal]

Like, cut it out. That's cloud chasing. That's all safari's doing right there.

[Damaris]

Well, no, I agree, but I'm talking about as far as the fans, like.

[Mal]

Wanting you on a safari show with. I mean, Nikki, show with security.

[Julian]

He had three security guards.

[Mal]

Come on, man. Cut this. Stay home.

[Rory]

Are you familiar with the Barbs?

[Mal]

Why go? Why?

[Rory]

I think I need security at a bar.

[Mal]

Why? Why go to the show?

[Julian]

Good show.

[Mal]

It's cloud chasing, bro. Stop. No, I agree with you 100%.

[Julian]

It's a lot of attention.

[Rory]

He took those videos as a fan.

[Mal]

I mean, I mean, he probably is a fan, but I'm a fan of a lot of people. I ain't going today's show now if my ex is on stage. Not going to my ex's concert. Are you crazy?

[Damaris]

Well, unless Unless y'all cool when she invited you.

[Mal]

That's different. Yeah, if we cool and we still, you know, kick it, like. Yeah, but if they ain't cool, you know, Nikki don't want to look in the crowd and see Safari there. Like.

[Rory]

You don't think he had aaa?

[Mal]

Definitely? No, he had a. No, he didn't have a. He had G. A.

[Damaris]

That would have pissed me off.

[Mal]

That's what I'm saying. It's cloud chasing. It's like, come on, cut it out, man.

[Rory]

I mean, Safaree still has one of my favorite diss records of all time.

[Mal]

Oh, they kicked him out?

[Damaris]

Yeah, I think.

[Mal]

Oh.

[Julian]

Oh, really?

[Rory]

That's that point. Just let him. Like.

[Julian]

That's lame.

[Rory]

That's gives a.

[Mal]

What you mean? Who gives a.

[Rory]

If. If this was, I don't know, six, seven years ago when they were fresh off the breakup and she was dating Meek and all that, then I'd be like, this is weird. It's been. How long has it been?

[Mal]

It's been some years.

[Rory]

If Safari wants to go, pay for a ticket to go to the show, just let him. I'm doing an arena show. He can stay there. I'm gonna focus on the show tonight.

[Julian]

He tweeted this.

[Rory]

Matter of fact, it's weirder that he wants to be here. He's gonna look crazier by staying after the show.

[Julian]

He tweeted, I'm proud. No, Cap. A lot of y'all will never understand, but there is no malice in me. I'm proud.

[Rory]

Okay, While I agree with Maul that this is clout Chasey and he did that. That with a purpose, I think there's also maybe some genuine part of that that Safaree came up with her since they were nobodies, like, just to see what he helped built with them in an arena like this. And Nikki now being a certified legend, I can see Safaree being like, yeah, this was great to watch.

[Mal]

There's a lot of people I'm proud of. I'm never going to that show.

[Damaris]

He didn't have to record it. He didn't record it. He didn't have to go himself.

[Mal]

He didn't have to go. You could be proud and stay home.

[Rory]

Well, I mean, yes, he could have.

[Mal]

Tweeted that from the couch.

[Rory]

That's where the conversation really ends, is like, you know what? I don't even need to go here.

[Mal]

Yeah. Like, what are we talking about? He could have tweeted that from the crib. Yo, I'm proud of Nicki, man.

[Damaris]

Like, the jean vest is crazy. Crazy boy. You crazy, boy.

[Rory]

Also wearing sunglasses. It. Never mind. Well, how could you see the show?

[Damaris]

A lot of people do that, and.

[Rory]

I never understood it. How the. Are y'all watching a show with sunglasses on? Well, I mean, what's the point of coming?

[Damaris]

Well, Safari goes everywhere with sunglasses, though. That's his. His shtick.

[Rory]

Some dark Cartier, man. He couldn't. How could he be proud? He couldn't even see.

[Damaris]

He could feel her, though.

[Rory]

He. He saw Kenneth Petty on stage and felt that. You ever.

[Mal]

Yeah. Well, why. Why, why my. Why my Kenny sitting there like he getting a haircut? Like, why he's sitting here like, so still like that? I didn't even notice he was sitting there till just now.

[Rory]

Thought he was security.

[Mal]

Yeah. I'm like, yo, that's wifey. You gotta be a little more into it than that.

[Damaris]

He looks so nervous.

[Rory]

He not nervous. This is not. Like, if y'all know his history and, like, where he's from, he doesn't do this. Like, what the. Am I on stage for right now?

[Mal]

Yeah. I would have turned that down, but.

[Rory]

Safaree was in the crowd.

[Mal]

I just told wifey, like, no, I'm good, man.

[Damaris]

You gotta, like, back up. You gotta, like, spread your legs and, like, look cool.

[Julian]

That's how you do it.

[Rory]

Yeah, like they taught you in Save the Last Dance when he was trying to teach her how to be black.

[Julian]

How to be black? Yeah.

[Mal]

That's such a terrible movie. You go back and look at that movie. That movie is terrible.

[Damaris]

That was my favorite movie when I was younger. It's such a bad movie, that movie is.

[Mal]

If you watch that movie tonight, you gonna turn it off. You're not making it through that whole movie. That movie is trash.

[Damaris]

Watch me squash this shit. Bianca Lawson been fine her whole life.

[Rory]

Yeah, she is back.

[Damaris]

She's gorgeous. You don't think Bianca Lawson. Fine.

[Mal]

She is very pretty. I didn't realize she was that old. Like. Well, not since she's old. She's old, but I didn't realize that she was as old as she is. I thought she was young.

[Damaris]

Her being Bianca's. I mean, Bianca, Beyonce's step sister is just the funniest. Well, not anymore, but. Yeah. That's hilarious.

[Rory]

Oh, yeah. I forgot about that connection completely. Yeah. No, she's. She's beautiful. Yeah. Well, when's the next time? Because I know we missed Gag City was in Newark.

[Damaris]

Please stop calling it Gag City.

[Rory]

It's Gag City.

[Mal]

That's the name of the tour, right?

[Damaris]

I know. But please just say Nikki's show.

[Rory]

No, but it's gag city.

[Damaris]

Oh, my God.

[Julian]

She's in the UBS arena and Elmont.

[Damaris]

This Friday.

[Julian]

On Friday.

[Damaris]

You guys want to go?

[Rory]

Do you think she'd have us?

[Mal]

Oh, no. That's Mom's birthday. I won't be here.

[Damaris]

Oh, really?

[Mal]

I knew October. I'm looking at that date, like October 11th.

[Rory]

Why do I know that if I DM her?

[Damaris]

That's the last show, too. It's in Queens. Last show.

[Mal]

I think. I think I looked at it and I thought about that.

[Julian]

There's a second leg, too. Oh, wait.

[Rory]

Well, bring moms.

[Mal]

So a Nicki Minaj show?

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Absolutely not. Maybe Nikki and my mom like Nikki. She like Nikki.

[Damaris]

If your mom went out with us on her birthday, she would have fun.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

So Nikki show. We would have a ball with your mom.

[Julian]

Gag City Reloaded.

[Rory]

Let's do all that. We'll get car service.

[Mal]

Reloaded.

[Julian]

Tiger, come on.

[Rory]

Don't do that.

[Julian]

No, I'm. I'm.

[Rory]

You better not do any Tiger hate on this podcast.

[Julian]

You know how I feel about Tiger.

[Damaris]

I don't play about Tiger.

[Julian]

I love Tiger.

[Mal]

Y'all like that about Tiger?

[Rory]

Hell, yeah.

[Damaris]

Tiger a certified hit maker. Ty is so certified hit.

[Mal]

Certified.

[Damaris]

Certified hit maker.

[Mal]

When is the last hit he had?

[Julian]

He just went diamond.

[Damaris]

One second.

[Julian]

Taste, taste diamond.

[Damaris]

Yeah. He stay with a hit. Tiger is a certified hit maker, though. Tiger stays with a hit.

[Mal]

Tiger got hit records. We. I'm not going to act like he don't, but when you start saying certified hit maker, I just don't. I don't like that. That just feels nasty.

[Rory]

I've been a Tiger fan since no introductions when he was rapping like Gym Class Heroes bros. I am a Tiger fan, Tiger.

[Mal]

No, you're not.

[Rory]

Yes, I am.

[Mal]

No, you're not. You've never played.

[Rory]

I could wrap all of. No introduction. If you. If we put that on, I could go bar for Barack City. Way before he met a Kardashian. Juicy faded Put the lime in the coconut.

[Mal]

That's terrible.

[Damaris]

That song, I think Juicy was the last hit he had with Dozier.

[Julian]

He keeps one every other summer.

[Rory]

No Tiger slander allowed.

[Damaris]

Yeah, I don't play that.

[Mal]

I feel like Tiger did. Didn't he do some whack, though?

[Rory]

I mean. I mean, he was definitely a teenager.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Oh, yeah. I knew he did some.

[Julian]

Nah. But he just had like.

[Rory]

And then Kanye went on the Breakfast Club and said, yeah, he got in there early.

[Julian]

Yeah, he just had like an A R'S vision. One day she gonna be something.

[Mal]

And I feel like he did something else, though. That was kind of like we ain't with Tiger.

[Rory]

Not Tiger.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Julian]

Make it Nasty.

[Rory]

He made an only fan make it nasty.

[Mal]

See, I wouldn't know that. Like, that's.

[Rory]

You don't remember that one?

[Mal]

I don't remember nothing about.

[Rory]

I just know that there. That it happened.

[Julian]

Loyal. He's got. He.

[Mal]

I thought it was something while we wasn't with Tiger, though.

[Rory]

Well, I mean, yeah. Outside of probably Kylie before she was of age.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Which I don't agree with, but as far as music making goes. Yeah, he's. It's pretty good.

[Mal]

Certified hit maker.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Okay.

[Rory]

I think an opener at a Nikki show with. With his catalog, he probably has that stadium close to as loud as Nikki does.

[Damaris]

Yeah. Deuces, Rack City faded. Making Nasty a ladies with Keith.

[Mal]

That's why I don't fuck with Damaris. He heard the. Rory just said, if I would have said that, she would have cursed me out.

[Damaris]

No, I wouldn't have. I'm over here.

[Mal]

Tiger has the stadium just as loud as Nicki.

[Rory]

You think the barbs go crazy when Rap City comes out?

[Damaris]

He didn't say exactly. He said during the. I don't think anyone on earth has saying who. Who Nikki's fan base is. During Nikki's time coming up, Tyga was also coming up releasing all those hit songs. So it's the same age range.

[Rory]

You think when. When truffle butter comes on, that stadium.

[Julian]

Doesn'T erupt with fl.

[Mal]

I'm just saying. Certified hit maker stadium erupting. Y'all doing too much for Tiger right now.

[Damaris]

You playing.

[Mal]

You have never been certified. None of y'all in here have never been to a Tiger contest. Sir. You ain't. I. You definitely don't come in here playing no time.

[Julian]

I've seen Tiger perform.

[Mal]

You have? All right, man. When.

[Julian]

It was probably some, like, Young Money tour thing.

[Mal]

Some Young money.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Julian]

No, what year was that?

[Rory]

Yeah, when was that Young Money tour?

[Julian]

It was when. Yeah, Drake and who else? Drake and Wayne did the.

[Mal]

Oh, Wayne.

[Damaris]

It's all.

[Julian]

No, it's all a blur. No, they did the. The Versus each Other tour.

[Mal]

You know what? You know what year that was?

[Julian]

Yeah, I was there, though.

[Mal]

What year was that?

[Julian]

2011.

[Mal]

12?

[Rory]

I was gonna say 13, maybe.

[Julian]

13.

[Mal]

The last time you supported tigers in 20.

[Julian]

Last time I saw him in show. I still support him.

[Mal]

You don't support Tiger.

[Julian]

What do you mean?

[Rory]

Define what? Supported.

[Julian]

Yeah. I'm not gonna buy that.

[Mal]

You have to play his music.

[Damaris]

Yeah, I played it here. Well, I'm a girl, so you know, I play all that. You know, I play make it nasty, freaky, juicy. All of those songs. Yeah, them shits hit especially at a party.

[Julian]

Allegedly he's dating Avril Lavigne too.

[Rory]

Swag.

[Julian]

Nice. That's a really unfortunate.

[Rory]

That's gonna be better than Everything is love.

[Julian]

Really unfortunate headline. Underneath that though, that's.

[Rory]

That's the couple I want to make an album.

[Julian]

Read that headline.

[Mal]

Avril and Tyga never imagined a romance.

[Julian]

No, no, the other one.

[Rory]

That was hilarious too.

[Mal]

Tiger response to claim he partied with 13 year old girl in a hot tub.

[Julian]

Well done.

[Rory]

I don't get a joke.

[Mal]

I don't know, man.

[Rory]

Also like, Tiger was also legendary in that street wear.

[Julian]

Snap.

[Rory]

I'll tell you, I worked on Ora Gold with Big Sean name drop. What influenced him to do his clothing line was based off. I forgot the name of Tiger. He. So he sold like $10 million worth.

[Julian]

You said I don't know my. I know Tiger. This why he just got the last king. The snapbacks were huge. You come on, we're not doing that.

[Mal]

I'm just laughing at you. Just had the name ready to go.

[Rory]

Like I was working for Kevin Ly when Sean was being managed by him doing his digital.

[Julian]

These were everywhere.

[Rory]

He decided to do his clothing line because he found out Tiger was making $10 million a quarter.

[Julian]

I had one of these ads as a gift.

[Mal]

So that's not support.

[Rory]

It's a gift.

[Julian]

That's support.

[Mal]

No, it's not.

[Rory]

How is that not support?

[Mal]

Free merch. It's free merch.

[Julian]

But have. But I supported it by wearing it.

[Rory]

You know, you getting the look when you was walking around.

[Mal]

Julian got on the last king's hat. Yo, Julian wearing the last king's hat. We got to go get one.

[Rory]

He probably wore it to the Michael Jackson trial or wherever the he was at.

[Damaris]

No, when he got. He used to wear it when he got picked first.

[Mal]

When he got picked first?

[Rory]

Oh yeah. I mean he used to turn it.

[Mal]

To the back when he used to.

[Rory]

Hit home runs in Yankee Stadium. He had it on backwards.

[Julian]

Let's go to the stadium.

[Rory]

Listen, man, Taga is a hit maker.

[Mal]

No, no, I'm not, I'm not. I'm not saying he's not. He. Tiger got hit records, but it was just. It was just the certified hit maker. It was just like, all right, man, if.

[Rory]

If your mom for some reason doesn't want to do anything on her actual Birthday and you guys discuss that. Can we all go to the Nikki show together? I don't. I don't think she'll answer my DM, so we. We may need you.

[Mal]

You think I'm DMing Nicki Minaj?

[Rory]

Do you have her number to give me tickets?

[Mal]

Tickets? You think I'm texting her to give me tickets?

[Rory]

Hey, I want to go to the show tonight.

[Mal]

That's nasty.

[Julian]

Make it nasty.

[Damaris]

Ain't real barbs. For real.

[Rory]

Wait, wait, wait, wait. How did we go to the Scorpion show?

[Mal]

I didn't hit nobody and ask him for nothing to the Scorpion show.

[Rory]

I did. But you took my. My ticket.

[Mal]

You hit somebody on my. I had Drake on my behalf.

[Rory]

No, but I. I asked for a bunch of passes. Passes.

[Mal]

All right, so what is. How does that got. What that got to do with me, though?

[Rory]

You still. I mean, you took the passes that were asked in that nasty way.

[Mal]

Okay.

[Rory]

But he was also very nice about it. I was like, of course. Oh, no, I didn't feel weird at all.

[Mal]

I'm super cool about it, but I haven't. I've never asked Nikki for a ticket anywhere.

[Rory]

I've neither.

[Mal]

Never even spoke to her about anything.

[Rory]

What's wrong with asking artists for tickets if you have a relationship with them? I don't think that's weird.

[Mal]

I don't think it's weird. I think it just. I think if you have a certain relationship with that artist, it's not weird.

[Rory]

I completely disagree because I have. Have relationships with artists that are on tour for six months straight. I'm supposed to be that arrogant to think that when they land in New York, they're like, let me make sure Rory is good. No, no, you gotta. They're on tour, their minds everywhere else. Yo, show tonight, mom. Putting some passes aside. I don't think it's that crazy.

[Mal]

All right, so hit Nick, you tell her you got. You bring your broom with you.

[Damaris]

He gonna ride it on his broom.

[Rory]

I want to see the show.

[Mal]

I'm riding on my broom. Like, you have valet parking for my broom.

[Damaris]

What if that's funny?

[Rory]

What if I do? Like, there has to be, like, a Harry Potter gif or something. Like, when Harry's coming, swooping in on his broom. Maybe I'll send that gift in the DM and be like, yeah, ticks, tix.

[Damaris]

Ticks.

[Mal]

Gotta say, ticks. Question mark is right underneath the gif of you riding a broom into the UBS arena.

[Rory]

You're acting like I'm asking for, like, parking passes inside. Just asking an Artist that gets, especially.

[Mal]

At an arena, 150 parking passes is important.

[Julian]

Is Roy reaching for passes?

[Mal]

Yeah, that's the pass right there.

[Rory]

So it's all right anytime Cole's done a. A show. It's weird that I hit Eve like, yo, can you put pass aside for me?

[Mal]

No, but you got a real relationship.

[Rory]

With E. Okay, again, that's why I said I don't have a relationship with Nikki. You do.

[Mal]

Do I?

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Well, we assumed so.

[Mal]

Okay.

[Rory]

I think so. Sort of.

[Mal]

I support her. She know I love her.

[Damaris]

Ma, who would you be comfortable getting us past this for?

[Mal]

Nobody.

[Damaris]

No artists.

[Mal]

I don't ask no artists for. I don't ask nobody.

[Damaris]

So you lied when you told me that you asked Drake for passes?

[Mal]

I never said. I. I never. No, no, no, that's not what I said. I said, he hit me the day of the night of, like an hour before the show.

[Damaris]

No, I'm not talking about the day of the show. I'm talking about the week before the show when I said, ma, can you ask Drake if I could get tickets? And you say, yeah, I got you. So you lied to me. You didn't have me.

[Mal]

No, I never asked him.

[Damaris]

No, but you lied to me and told me to lie about you.

[Rory]

Yeah, you lied about that, Tordick.

[Damaris]

Okay, good to know.

[Mal]

I don't ask artists for nothing. I don't.

[Damaris]

Why tell me that you was gonna ask them. Why did you say the bear style ask for tickets?

[Mal]

Because I probably was. I probably would have asked him, but by the time it. The show came up, I just was like, no, I'm not asking this.

[Rory]

I mean, I. I have a similar mentality with, like, real life shit. I'm not asking anyone for shit. I'll do it myself type of thing, which is a bad mentality. But tickets. It's just a ticket.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

You don't think I hit Wale and was like, yo, do you mind putting a pass out for me?

[Mal]

I have a relationship with Wale. Why you keep.

[Rory]

You have a relationship with Drake and you're saying you don't ask him for shit?

[Mal]

Never ask him for nothing?

[Rory]

A ticket?

[Mal]

Never.

[Julian]

Yeah, but that's where his point. Yeah, why not ask your friend?

[Mal]

I just. I just don't ask people for never. I never have.

[Julian]

I have friends that are artists that say, hey, if you got friends in these cities or, like, you know, you want to. You know, if you have people that want to go to the show, let me know and I'll. We'll get them on the list. That's I've done that.

[Mal]

Wait, what?

[Julian]

Like, I have friends. Like, when an artist goes on tour and they love the artists, I'm like, oh, like, if they're in Boston and I have a couple friends in Boston that. To go to the show. But yeah, sure, give me their names. We'll make sure they're on the list.

[Mal]

Okay, that's what's up.

[Julian]

Is that crazy?

[Mal]

No, I never said. I never said nothing was crazy. I said I don't do it.

[Julian]

Gestures for people.

[Rory]

Did we not have a great time in London at the festival?

[Mal]

What festival?

[Rory]

What? Oh, yeah, cafe. I saw that my friend was in London, so I texted her, you have a relationship. You have a relationship with Drake. That's what you keep missing. Like, I asked her for a ticket. I was like, But I answered that. Can I also get some passes for my friends?

[Mal]

But I answered that already. And I said, I don't ask people for tickets. I don't ask people for nothing. I don't care who they are.

[Rory]

But we had a blast. See, Maybe you should start asking you to. You'd have more fun.

[Mal]

I have fun at home. I watched the show on stream.

[Rory]

Okay, so how. Like, how does it go about. Let's say, like, peak hove era? Like, did you just go with them?

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Okay, so you never learned, like, yo, make sure will call.

[Mal]

The only time I had will call tickets for a Jay Z show was the Fade to Black show. Because I was somewhere else and I got to the Garden late. The show had. The show was just about to start.

[Rory]

Damn. Carlene told you you could buy two tickets?

[Mal]

No, never told me that. Definitely never told me that. No, no, my tickets was this, yo.

[Rory]

Finding out the real story of that. Cause I listened to Big Brother by Kanye. I was like, damn, that's a little fucked up that they made Kanye west buy tickets to that shit.

[Mal]

It. No, but I understand.

[Rory]

And then to find out that he had 20 tickets and was asking for more.

[Mal]

That's what I'm saying.

[Rory]

He left out so much.

[Mal]

That's exactly what I'm about to say. Because you'll have tickets, but then you'll be like, Yo, I need 15.

[Rory]

15 more like, yo, we gave Kanye 20 tickets. Why he rapping like, he didn't have one ticket to get in.

[Mal]

Like, nah, see, my ticket.

[Rory]

Carlene said, I.

[Mal]

My ticket was at will call. It was. I had one ticket, one pass. But when I got to my seat, the whole family was sitting in the same section. So it was. It was, you know, but I didn't. I'M like, yo, I got five of the homies. They coming with me. Nah, I'm not doing that.

[Rory]

Let's say Mike was alive and you had a relationship. But the only way to get to the show would be to ask Mike, which, you know, he would say, yes.

[Mal]

Michael Jackson.

[Rory]

Yes. Would you ask Michael Jackson, hey, do you mind if I get tickets to the Thriller show at Giant Stadium?

[Mal]

Yeah, that might be a ticket. You gotta ask.

[Rory]

All right, We've made some ground, though.

[Mal]

Michael Jackson performing Thriller at Giant Stadium. Yeah, you might have to hit Mike. If you know Mike personally, you got to hit him and ask him for a ticket to that. That's for sure.

[Rory]

I was trying to think if I've had any, like, embarrassing moments of asking artists for tickets.

[Mal]

No, but you had me in an embarrassing moment in London with your fucking hippie friend show. I wanted to kill Rory with this shit.

[Damaris]

What happened?

[Rory]

I didn't invite y'all.

[Damaris]

What happened?

[Mal]

Some fucking hippie. I don't know. He was a talented guy. Let me not say that.

[Rory]

He's not a hippie. All right, first of all, no, no, While we're here, Great story before voicemails, because also, that was technically my fault because I didn't check my WhatsApp. I didn't know text messages sometimes can transfer to WhatsApp. Anyways, we go to a show of, I think, a very talented artist. I got tickets for sure. The whole plan was I was going to go by myself.

[Mal]

That's not what hap.

[Rory]

See, I got. I got enough tickets.

[Mal]

That's not what happened. That's not what happened.

[Rory]

I didn't think y'all was gonna go, go, but I got enough tickets.

[Mal]

You know, I care about the crew.

[Rory]

But y'all, no one agreed to that. They wanted to go. So I was like, there's enough tickets that he put aside for us. I was going regardless. I feel like y'all had other plans that fell through.

[Mal]

No, that's. Plans didn't fall through. We were.

[Rory]

Yes. Yes. Thank you, Peach. You guys were going to the soccer game, all of you, And I was going to go to the show by myself, but because I'm a good friend, I got enough tickets just in case. That's not why they ended up not going to the soccer show.

[Mal]

That's not what happened.

[Rory]

And they came with me. Me.

[Mal]

That's a lie. That's not. That's a lie. That's. That is a lie. That's not what happened. What happened was the soccer. The soccer game in the show was that night we had soccer passes to the game if we wanted them. But everybody kept saying, if this is going to be your first soccer game experience, it shouldn't be this game. This is not the game you want to go to.

[Rory]

But that was day of, like, hours before.

[Mal]

That was the day before.

[Julian]

Dumb reason not to go.

[Mal]

That was the day before. So that day, early that day, I said, yo, I'm gonna just go to the show tonight since we're not going to the game. This is before we left. We was doing radio. Whatever we was doing before that, we left it.

[Rory]

Yeah. We were doing Kenny All Star, so.

[Mal]

We all knew we were going to.

[Rory]

The show at that point. I was always planning on going.

[Mal]

No. Yes, you were.

[Rory]

But I was planning on going by myself.

[Mal]

You were. You was like, yo, you're gonna go to that show. Cause originally we was gonna go to the game the day before. We knew we were not going to that game.

[Rory]

I didn't know that.

[Mal]

Yeah, so that's when we went to the show. But either way, go to the show.

[Rory]

I was shocked y'all wanted to go. I was like, all right, cool. Come with.

[Mal]

Good show. I don't know this gentleman, but my first time at his show, I'm like, okay. He got some good music, talented dope, good set. After the show, again, I'm thinking this is one of Rory's boys. I don't know him, never met him. After the show, we standing by the door to go backstage to say hi, whatever, whatever. Rory wanted to do security. Duke shuts us down immediately. Nah. Rory's like, you don't want to just go tell him that Rory's here. Just wanted to say what's up? Da da da. Nah, I'm not doing it. So then another gentleman comes, and I guess he was working with the artist. He talks to Rory, goes back there, talks to the artist, come back, he said, nah, he's not. He's not seeing nobody tonight.

[Rory]

Which. Which, by the way, sitting there, I'm.

[Mal]

Like, first of all, homie, you ain't even like that. We not doing that. I'm not seeing.

[Julian]

Who the fuck is this guy?

[Damaris]

Well, maybe he was tired, Ma.

[Rory]

He just said, it's.

[Mal]

You ain't, nigga. You play folk music first.

[Rory]

Well, first of all, that's not what happened. It was more of my mistake because his manager never went to even talk to him. I. For some reason, the text Messages went to WhatsApp, so he was texting me while we were waiting, but he was in WhatsApp, and I was looking at my Imessage. Until the next day, I looked at my WhatsApp for another reason and saw that. That he was saying who to ask for. His manager never even went to talk to him. He thought we ghosted him.

[Mal]

So that. So the dude.

[Rory]

It was a miscommunication.

[Mal]

Dude spun us. Yes, well, we need to beat that, yo. We might need to jump him next time we see it.

[Rory]

I looked at the WhatsApp, I was like, damn. And I knew. I knew Maul was tight at that point. Point. But we was only there for, like, what.

[Mal]

I wasn't tight. I wasn't tight. I. I'm gonna be honest. I'm just joking. I wasn't tight. I wasn't mad.

[Rory]

It was nice to be back in that venue, though.

[Mal]

Yeah, no, that was. That was a good thing about being there. The first venue we performed at in London. Yeah. But I was just like, damn, homie. Like, you don't want to say what's up to you to Rory. Like, I didn't have to show, so I was like, yo, if it was just Rory going back there, I would have still waited for Rory to come back. Like, we would have left together. But his man came back like, nah, he ain't saying. He ain't saying nobody. I'm like, what?

[Rory]

It was my fault because I didn't look at my WhatsApp. And then even. He even double texted me on WhatsApp of where they were going from the venue. He's like, yo, I'm at Soul House now.

[Mal]

Oh, okay.

[Rory]

Yeah, I felt bad, and then I had y'all waiting there. It wasn't. It wasn't his fault. Don't be mean to him. He's talented.

[Mal]

I'm sorry, man. I apologize, man. My bad. I said he had a good show, though.

[Rory]

Incredible.

[Mal]

I said. I led with that great show.

[Rory]

It wasn't Gag City, but it wasn't.

[Mal]

Gag City Reloaded, but Tiger wasn't.

[Damaris]

What did y'all gag?

[Mal]

Yo, do we have voicemails? You've got mail.

[Julian]

You don't want to answer your question, I don't think.

[Rory]

I don't recall gagging, but when I.

[Damaris]

Say gag, I don't mean, like, like, actual gag. I mean, like, oh, my God. Like, you gag. Mean, like, damn. Like, they. He took your breath away.

[Julian]

Did he take your breath away?

[Rory]

Ma, it was really hot in there.

[Mal]

I actually. Do we have a voicemail, like, 30 seconds ago? Like, are you still asking me?

[Rory]

It was really hot in there, so it was tough to breathe, but, no, it was. It was an amazing performance. But I could breathe the whole time.

[Julian]

You'Re at the Earth Theater. Love that venue.

[Rory]

Probably my favorite venue ever.

[Julian]

Voicemails. Speaking of gagging, here we go.

[Mal]

What's up, Rory? Ma on the whole pod, I had a quick question for you guys. Have any of you guys had a girlfriend that wore more makeup than he thought she needed? Like how? Like, I want to tell my girl, like, yo, you don't need as much makeup as you wear. Like, she's already really pretty. Like, you know, coming from the guy, like, how do I say that in a way that's not offensive? And like, more like I'm really trying to say, like, bro, like, you really just naturally look pretty. You don't need this much makeup type. But yeah, bro, what's the best way to say that? The marriage. I'm curious to hear your opinions on this, but I'm probably gonna assume we'll be like, don't tell her what to do, but just curious how to exactly. Why always worried about what we don't.

[Damaris]

Wow. I've never clapped on this podcast while talking. That was weird. Anti black woman. What that mall be over there clapping. I don't be over here clapping. Like, I don't.

[Mal]

You've never clapped?

[Damaris]

No, I'm autistic. It gives. It's sensory issues. I don't even be clapping. I be pointing my finger like this. I be doing that, but I don't be clapping.

[Mal]

Okay, I'm going. Just answer the gentleman. Don't tell your girl to not wear too much makeup.

[Rory]

I was going to say ice on Damaris. I have no. I have no answer for you. I've been in this predicament and I. I don't even know what I just told him.

[Mal]

Don't. Don't even bring it up. Just leave it alone.

[Julian]

Act like I want to hear. Yeah.

[Damaris]

So my main thing is, like, logical common sense. Was she wearing that amount of makeup when you met her or before you met her? If so, then that's the way that she likes to do her makeup. A lot of women don't wear heavy makeup because it's like, oh, I'm trying to cover up things. Like, it's not even like that. That might just be the way that they like their makeup to look. Now. Do you think the makeup looks shitty? If you think the makeup looks shitty, then that's a conversation worth having. But if you feel like it's just a lot of makeup, which honestly, men don't even really know what a lot of makeup is, is sometimes y'all be Thinking girls have no makeup on and it be a full face of makeup and y'all just don't have no clue. Like, when people are like, oh, Alicia Keys is wearing makeup. Yes, she is. But anyway, long story short, Alicia, because Alicia Keys went on a no makeup run phase and people were like, oh, look how pretty she is with no makeup. She was still wearing light makeup. It was just really, really light. You could see her freckles through it, things like that. But there was a thing where Alicia Keys was like, oh, I'm wearing no makeup.

[Rory]

We can tell, though, when it's a little too cakey.

[Damaris]

Yeah, but that's bad makeup. You can have good makeup. That's a lot that people don't even realize is a lot. And then you can have light makeup that's cakey and up like.

[Rory]

So what should he say to his girl?

[Damaris]

It depends. If the makeup is shitty and you hate the way it looks, then you can have a conversation with her. But if you just feel like it's a lot of makeup and you're like, oh, you don't need to wear that much makeup. She's obviously wearing it because she wants to. If you weren't attracted to it when you met her, if she was wearing that amount of makeup, then you shouldn't have dated somebody who wears.

[Rory]

Do I have a counter that now that I'm here, are you're single?

[Julian]

I mean, so we. I've gone on, I've met girls out or I've seen women or whatever in public and they have. It's a no makeup day or a light makeup day, whatever you want to call it. And then when I officially want to try to, like when I take them on a date or we like go have a night out, then they'll do like the over the top, like cake got look like they have a shiner. Like, then it's like becomes that.

[Damaris]

But this is his girlfriend. This is not. He's not.

[Julian]

No, but I'm saying maybe he met her and they. When they started hanging out, she was doing like the low key, like, you know, subtle shit. And then when they started going out, like, he's taking her to like a nice dinner, a nice show, whatever. Like the girl. I'm thinking of one specific girl in my life where every time I would take her somewhere nice, which only happened like three times because I just couldn't get over how much she changed her face when I would take her to decent things and it annoyed the shit out of me. Like, it really bothered me.

[Damaris]

She had to just Be bad at makeup.

[Julian]

It was awful. But she was.

[Mal]

But.

[Julian]

But she was beautiful and it was fine. When we weren't doing those things. I was like, this girl looks great. I like this. That we do, like the day thing, but then when we go to like a concert and like, you're. I can just. My shirt is destroyed. I would wear clothing every time I was around her. I'm just gonna throw this out.

[Mal]

You had to put a bib on, dude, it's.

[Julian]

I. In my sheets. I was like, everything is just destroyed.

[Rory]

Why should I be more disrespectful to the other guys that she's not with? I can't stand hugging a chick I have no bit of relationship with, no nothing. And now I have makeup on. My shirt hurt.

[Damaris]

See, a real baddie, she give you the double cheek or the side thing. Like, I don't. When I'm wearing makeup, I don't lay my head on you guys chest. I know that's true.

[Mal]

Just give me a head nod from across the room. I see you.

[Rory]

Little salute.

[Julian]

But I feel him, though, because like, I. There is no good way to say this to a girl. There is no good way to say this to a girl. Some guys like when their women are all dolled up. I'm. I'm not one of those guys. I prefer like the natural look. Even if there is something there. I preferred it to like, you know, where it's like, oh, is there? Who cares? But I don't know, man, that sucks. Like, to Damaris's point, if that's your girl, that's what she does. You gotta live with it.

[Damaris]

That's how you met her. If that's how you. And I say that with a lot of things in relationships. If you met this person like this, or. I don't even want to just say met within the first three dates if this is what they were doing. Because obviously when a girl goes on our date, that's usually when she puts on the most makeup. Because she wants to look the best.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

So unless she's like a true baddie, then she knows to do the light, almost real, real light makeup so that he think that you look good without makeup. Whatever. Anyway, long story short, it seems like she's been doing this for a while. You're in a relationship with her. So.

[Rory]

So people shouldn't grow and change within relationships.

[Damaris]

Growing, that's. That's not growing.

[Rory]

However you meet them is just how they should be.

[Damaris]

That's not growing, Rory. It's not you asking her to be better. At communication. Like it's not growing. You met.

[Rory]

I'm communicating that I hate what you do with your face.

[Damaris]

Okay, so then you shouldn't have got into a relationship with her.

[Julian]

That's honestly the reason why I stopped talking to that girl is because of the extent to which she would do her makeup.

[Mal]

Why don't you just. Just.

[Julian]

But how do you say that to someone?

[Mal]

I mean, if it's your girl. Say that to someone if it's your girl. I would, but that wasn't. You don't like the way your girl does her makeup? Yeah, she wasn't then, you know, pay for her.

[Julian]

She would do like, I don't know, burnt red lipstick. I'm like, what are you doing?

[Rory]

Oh, relationships have rules, right? Maybe every face she does has to be a one makeup wipe cleanup. Like if it gets to two, there's.

[Julian]

Never one you need. Like there's never.

[Damaris]

There's no such thing as a one makeup wipe. Actually, you shouldn't even be cleaning your face with makeup wipes, cuz it doesn't really clean your face. You need an oil cleanser or your regular cleanser.

[Rory]

I thought. Isn't there oil cleansing makeup wipes?

[Damaris]

They have makeup wipes that have oil on them, but you need an oil cleanser that you can rub into your face to strip that stuff off. Makeup is very. Will really clog your pores. But yeah, sir, I Honestly, if. If. If that's your. How long y'all been together? Cuz if y'all been together over a year, I can understand you sitting and have a con having a conversation, but nowhere throughout this.

[Mal]

That's what Diddy was doing with all the baby oil for when women come over, they need to. Yeah. Need to remove the makeup.

[Rory]

Yeah, that checks out. I think that's what his mom was saying in that statement.

[Mal]

Yeah, absolutely. See, I knew he was a good guy.

[Julian]

You're removing makeup off men's booty holes?

[Mal]

Come on, man. See, why you always gotta. Why you gotta go there?

[Julian]

That's where he went. He went in there.

[Mal]

But why you gotta go there behind him, though?

[Julian]

Oh, you know what I'm saying?

[Rory]

Just chill.

[Damaris]

Yeah, you gonna follow him?

[Rory]

Makeup wives don't take bleach off.

[Mal]

Do we have another voicemail?

[Julian]

Thank you, Rory. Appreciate it.

[Mal]

Thank you.

[Julian]

Yeah, Here you go.

[Rory]

I wish we had more advice for that guy. I really have no answer. Yeah, like, yeah, you're in a tough position. You can't say that to women. It sucks, but. Next one.

[Caller]

Rory.

[Mal]

Mall.

[Caller]

What's up, Damaris? Julian. Hey, I kind of just have, like, a life situation that I want feedback on. I'm 26 years old. My parents are 46, 47, and pretty much I just found out recently that I'm pregnant. Swag. I've been with my boyfriend for going on, like, four, five years, so we've been together for a while. And it's just like, a little weird because my parents literally love our relationship. They love him. We have our own house, we have two dogs. So I'm a stepmom. So it's kind of just like I already kind of, like, live my happy little life. And I don't really ask my parents for anything. Like, of course they still do. For me, I'm their kid. Like, I'm my dad's only child, so there's always stuff that he's, like, gonna do. But when it comes to, like, me being pregnant, this seems to be, like, such a big thing. And neither of my parents are happy or upset. It's weird. And I feel like at this age, I know you guys are older than me, but, like, to think about it, if you guys could go back, like, or even at the age you're in.

[Julian]

And she does. Hold on.

[Caller]

And my thing is just like, at your age, like, what would you do or how would you feel if you could go back and be pregnant or expecting a child as a man at the this age? Like, I don't know. I kind of just feel like my parents are conflicted because I'm old enough, but I'm not old enough, if that makes sense. Like, my best friend has three daughters and she's just turning 25. So, like, in my eyes, I feel old. I feel like I didn't do that fucking bad. Like, who has, has. Who doesn't have kids? Like, I mean, outside of mall, I feel like everybody has kids, so it's not like a. Like Damaris. You're not there yet, Julian. You'll get there. Like, it is what it is. I just feel like everybody has, all of us, everybody knows somebody that has kids. So it's just like, it's not the end of the world. I understand, like, life is expensive, but, like, I'll freaking live. Like, it's not. I don't know. I don't really understand the big, like, deal.

[Julian]

Just understand the big deal with raising a family. And her parents don't seem too excited or really seem to care at all about her and her man having a kid.

[Rory]

Okay. But if you look at the situation they're in, they've been together for Almost five years. They have a house together. Like, they're planning their future together. So why would a kid be that crazy? That would, I think, be the eventual goal for someone that has stayed with someone for five years, got a house together, everything. Like, what's wrong that she got pregnant?

[Damaris]

If people are making it seem that way. If the people in her life are making it seem that way, and this is just assumptions, I don't know the girl. Congratulations on your pregnancy. I hope it's a healthy one. The only thing I can think is that they, the people in her life might not think that she's mature enough or that he's mature enough to handle this. It might not be an age thing, because 26 isn't too old to have a baby. I mean, too young to have a baby. It might just be a. They feel like you're an emotionally or mentally mature enough. They might not feel like you're ready. And they don't know how to say that.

[Rory]

Well, I mean, we don't know his relationship with his other child, but he has a kid. He's benefited.

[Damaris]

I was talking mainly about her.

[Mal]

It may be something to do with the step mom thing. Maybe that may be why the father is like, I don't know, man.

[Rory]

But she said that her parents love him and love their relationship. Like, they live together. This isn't just some dude she was talking to and she got pregnant. Pregnant. Like, family likes him. They've been together five years, have a house, two dogs.

[Mal]

Like, they're already a family.

[Rory]

This is. Yeah. For the long haul. Like, and says she loves her little family with being a stepmother, too.

[Mal]

Like, you gotta just not care about what your family think, man. If that's what you want and you're happy, that's all you need. Sometimes it's just your happiness, your peace of mind if you and him are together. And like you said, you already have your own family. How he has a kid already. You've already accepted the stepmom title and stepmom role. Two dogs. Like, y'all got your own life going, man. You know, sometimes family just knock on, you know, they're not gonna approve all the time. It's okay. But, y'all, that doesn't mean that your home should be interrupted and you should not be happy during this pregnancy.

[Rory]

And she spoke highly of her family, even though she said they weren't thrilled or anything. Yeah, did speak highly of them. The moment they see their grandchildren, they'll be on board.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Like, you'll be okay. I think you're probably just overthinking it because you thought they may have came to you with a more amazing reaction. Yeah, like, screamed like, oh, my God. Yeah, they're probably nervous for you. Like, 26 these days is young. Is. Is young when it comes to having kids.

[Damaris]

So insert.

[Rory]

But if you were in a bad situation, I would understand.

[Mal]

But you have to already have the family, man. Be happy with your little family, your circle, and, you know, the family will catch on once the baby comes. Your father will be extremely a different person. Your mother will be, too. Once the grandchild is there. They'll be. They'll be. They'll accept it and be happy again. But right now, you know, just focus on having a healthy, happy pregnancy and your family, they'll catch up.

[Damaris]

Well, when you go to have a baby, your parents are probably going to scream, right?

[Mal]

Yeah, yeah. My dad, he probably say something inappropriate.

[Rory]

But what I a.

[Damaris]

Know your shit's worked.

[Mal]

Yeah, that's. That's my dad. Dick still works, son. What?

[Damaris]

Dicks be working.

[Mal]

What? Like. What are you talking about?

[Rory]

Like, my dad does the opposite. Still inappropriate, but the opposite reminds me that his dick still works.

[Mal]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Rory]

Like, yo, you gonna be good, son? I'm like, just let you like my still. I'm like, all right. I didn't need to know that.

[Mal]

Like, he just. He just let you know what's up.

[Rory]

I'll be waking up fully. Like, I'm like that. I don't.

[Damaris]

Sleeping in my. He'd be sleeping in my bed at your house, though. Talking about some facts hard. Like, come on, Jake.

[Rory]

He hit on you when he was high off shrooms.

[Damaris]

Oh, yeah.

[Mal]

I don't think you should have Paul repeated that.

[Damaris]

But why?

[Rory]

He showed up to my crib. He went to the movies by himself on shroom. Shrooms.

[Mal]

Gangster.

[Damaris]

Hold up. We were taking shots of Casamigo.

[Mal]

A different level in life where you go to the movies by yourself on shrooms. That means you don't. And then you drove with nobody.

[Rory]

And then you drove.

[Mal]

He don't. Your dad don't with nobody. He don't like nobody.

[Rory]

He came back to the crib and drank with me to Maris.

[Mal]

Yeah, I mean, you know, lit went up, too.

[Rory]

It. Shrooms, alcohol and weed. I was like, yo, you and your dick work now.

[Damaris]

He had to put me to the.

[Rory]

Master because my dick wouldn't work work now with alcohol either and shrooms together.

[Mal]

That's an American right there.

[Julian]

When I was. When I was younger. I don't even know if my dad remembers this. This is The. That sticks with me. Someone was asking my dad, he's like, wow, like four boys. Like, that's a lot of men. Like a house full of men. My dad's like, I don't spit that girl. Exactly what he said, referring to having four.

[Mal]

That's the old school. That's the old school.

[Julian]

I don't spit that girl.

[Damaris]

Beautiful and misogynistic stick.

[Julian]

Yeah, it's black magic.

[Mal]

Yes, it's black magic.

[Rory]

So what does he think about his father in law?

[Julian]

I just like, yeah, I just don't get like. I was like, where is.

[Rory]

Somebody needs to spit that girl?

[Julian]

I was like, that's so short sighted. Because obviously one of my brothers has a daughter, my niece.

[Damaris]

That's her birthday.

[Julian]

Yeah. She turned 11.

[Mal]

But that don't got nothing to do with your dad though. He's looking at your brother like.

[Julian]

Like has two twin boys, though. He's twin boys. So that, that it was for a while. It was looking like his theory was panning out. And then my brother. Yeah. Has my. My only. The only woman. The only niece in our family.

[Damaris]

Oh, poor baby.

[Rory]

You guys both have twins in your family?

[Mal]

Oh my God.

[Rory]

That would.

[Mal]

Twins. Twins weren't run rampant in my family.

[Julian]

They don't run in our family.

[Mal]

That was like. It's insane how many twins are in my family.

[Damaris]

I want so bad. That's why I was sleeping with a man whose twins were in his family for so long. Because I want twins so bad.

[Julian]

You could just pay for them.

[Damaris]

You got twins money in this economy?

[Rory]

Were you actively asking him to like, not pull out or like, we're just hoping he'd slip up one day.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Julian]

What was the goal we've had?

[Damaris]

We, Me and him had had those conversations. Shout out to him. Me and him had had those conversations before. But yeah, I wanted twins badly. He knew I wanted.

[Mal]

He was an identical twin.

[Damaris]

No, he wasn't a twin. Twins ran in his family. It skipped him. But he was a twin. Yeah.

[Julian]

Thought he was carrying.

[Damaris]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Rory]

I think now twins wouldn't scare me now, based off at least having like a crash course for the last 18 months, if Kia was pregnant with twins the first time, I would. I'd be terrified. Like, I'd be genuinely scared. Two kids out the gate is.

[Damaris]

I feel like it's.

[Mal]

Having a twin sister is a cheat code, though. Like for me growing up, that is a cheat code. Like, imagine having a twin sister and y'all go to school together. Do you realize I knew everything about every bad bitch in my school?

[Rory]

I Was looking more from the parenting side.

[Mal]

No, I'm just saying. I'm just saying, like, just thinking about when you say twins, like, it's a cheat code. Going, like, being in high school with a twin sister, like, and then not only that, you got her on the weekends if one of the pretty girls spent a night. Are you kidding me?

[Rory]

Like, and y'all shared a room, right?

[Mal]

That shit was a cheat code.

[Julian]

Just beating off.

[Damaris]

Wait, you shared a room with your twin sister?

[Mal]

Yeah, growing up.

[Damaris]

Yeah, we shared a room in high school.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Julian]

Oh, man.

[Damaris]

Oh, you lucked out with the sleepover. That's crazy.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Julian]

You didn't do sleep. You're not hosting at that.

[Mal]

No, but at that time, it would be like, I would be in the living room, like, you know what I'm saying? Like, I. If my sister had, like, friends over, they would have the room and I would be like, going through puberty. But it's not that.

[Rory]

Foggy brains.

[Julian]

That is tough, though, on the couch.

[Mal]

That is tough, though, because then, now you got the cute girl from school that you kind of like. Like, and she know your sneakers. Funky, first of all. Was never funky, but she. She knows. She see, like, your home swag. It's like she see you when you wake up on the Wake up ugly. Yeah, she just see you. It's like she see you eating your cereal, watching tv.

[Julian]

It's like breath humming.

[Mal]

This is a chick that every in my school like, and she's like, sleeping in the room with my sister right now.

[Rory]

How much of a difference with a teenage boy is their wake up versus the middle of the day?

[Mal]

What do you mean?

[Damaris]

No matter what, was there that much.

[Rory]

Of a difference of your wake up versus, like, if she saw you at lunchtime?

[Julian]

You gotta. You gotta leave it.

[Rory]

We're all pretty disgusting.

[Julian]

Leave the door open when you shower. Then when you jump out, they're like.

[Mal]

Oh, no, I wasn't doing that.

[Julian]

That's crazy.

[Mal]

See what I'm saying? You see how fast you end up at the podium? That's why you would have been at the podium.

[Rory]

First of all, he's a teenager in his mother's house. And you're saying he should.

[Julian]

No, you just open it.

[Damaris]

Have you met his mother?

[Rory]

Word.

[Julian]

No.

[Damaris]

You should.

[Mal]

She ain't.

[Damaris]

She ain't playing for none of that.

[Mal]

My mom's ain't. They ain't going for nothing. None of that.

[Rory]

But it was just fun, though.

[Mal]

It's like, you hear in school during.

[Julian]

The day, I might have met.

[Mal]

And then you get home and you talking to your sister and she giving you, like, the woman's perspective of it, of the. That's going on in the school. You like, oh, okay. So she with him and him.

[Damaris]

Why? See, See, your sister wasn't a girl's girl.

[Mal]

No, she was, but she. Come on, I'm her twin. She gotta tell me. Now, she knew I wasn't gonna spill it. Like, she knew I wasn't that type of brother. Like, I'm not gonna go back to the school and be like, nah, yo, she gave me the rundown. Nah, she really. It was never that. But she had to tell me what was going on. But it was interesting because if I give her my perspective on what the guys are saying that was going on. And then she like, what? Like, that's not even what happened. Now she gives me the girl's perspective. And I'm sitting there like, it's crazy how we in the same school all day, the same building, two completely different, totally different experiences.

[Damaris]

Yep.

[Mal]

Two totally different. Like, my experience in high school and my sister's experience. Totally different. And we was in the same building. Like, it's. But I knew about it in real time because we having these conversations at home. Like. And she telling me what's going on, what's happening. What girl? Like, who? Da da, da, da, da. I ain't gonna lie. One time I did some wax shit and I helped one of my homies. Like, I knew a girl liked him, and my sister told me not to tell nothing, and I kind of told him. I was like, yo, I ain't gonna lie. She kind of. I think. I think she might be feeling. I set a screen. I set a screen for him to get a shot off. I set a screen.

[Damaris]

How are they married now?

[Mal]

I don't think that's whack, but it's whack because I told my sister I wasn't gonna say nothing. Oh, yeah, that's why it's whack. It's not whack what I did, but the fact that. Huh.

[Julian]

Did he beat.

[Mal]

Well, they dated. I'm not, you know, high school. I don't know if they had sex, but they definitely dated after that. But I definitely, like, went and told him, like, yo, she might be feeling you, kid. I don't know.

[Damaris]

I miss that. I would pay money to go back.

[Rory]

To them, introduce love.

[Mal]

Like, I don't know if it was love, but we was only in the 10th grade. I don't know if that's love, but, you know. Yeah.

[Damaris]

That feeling of finding out the boy that you like like you back.

[Mal]

Ah, nah. But then it's worse when you be talking to your sister, like, about a girl you like, and then she know that girl don't like you.

[Rory]

Oh, that's gotta be rough. Yeah.

[Mal]

Oh, man, I had a few of those. I'm like, nah, she ain't. I wore the J's yesterday. I'm like, yo, she ain't biting my sister. Like, nah, she ain't fucking with you.

[Damaris]

At least you listen to your sister. Because I had the homeboys where I be like, yo, you can't. Her hair. What you mean? I'm telling you, I'm sitting up here, like, every time this girl sees you, like, she tells me, like, this is the most disgusting in the world. Why do you hang out with him? And you over here like, you think your friend can't get. Your friend could get. I hate when do that, man. I'm like, if my. If you could, my friend, I'll tell you, like, oh, I'll throw you the alley if she like you. But I'm. If I tell you, you can't. My friend just listen to me.

[Rory]

Never threw me alley. Not one friend.

[Damaris]

You all my friends already. Oh, my bad.

[Mal]

Damn.

[Damaris]

I'm sorry, gangster.

[Mal]

That's what you're supposed to do.

[Rory]

Where my jersey at?

[Mal]

Take it to the hole.

[Rory]

Where the jersey at? Did your sister ever get mad when he one of her friends?

[Mal]

Yeah, she couldn't do nothing about that stuff. She couldn't stop that from happening. Like, it was going.

[Rory]

I know she was tight.

[Mal]

Oh, my gosh.

[Damaris]

And I know she was aggravated with Shorty, too. Cause why the. Would you.

[Julian]

Him.

[Mal]

Yeah, man.

[Damaris]

Irritated, bro.

[Mal]

It was bad. It was bad. I used to be. I. It was. Oh, it was bad. But I mean, you know, that's part of it. I think that's part of growing up. You gotta go through that whole time where you kissing and having. Now, one thing I did love is my sister. She. She helped me avoid a few potholes, though.

[Rory]

That's helpful. That's the girls I like positive there.

[Mal]

She's like, I got gym class with her. She's funky.

[Damaris]

Ooh.

[Mal]

I'm like, word. Like, she mad cute. She was like, she don't wash. My sister used to give it up. Oh, yeah, for sure. She used to let. She like, nigga, don't. She's cute. Cute girl, but I got gym with her in the locker room. I'm with her. She don't. I was like, word? Yes. Trust me. I'm like, all right, so she wants to definitely help me avoid a few. A few potholes, man, for sure, but a couple of them shits I did 45 miles over the pot. I ain't give a.

[Julian]

Sometimes if you go fast enough, though.

[Mal]

Yeah, it's not really. Yeah, it don't really. It don't really.

[Julian]

No one sees it. No one needs to know about it.

[Rory]

Right?

[Mal]

Right.

[Julian]

Tires work fine from that clip off. Yeah. Come on.

[Rory]

And that's how I know to the grave. I've had so many female friends, like, tell me every red, red flag about a girl, everything that should make me not want to with her. I'll be all right.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

No, you won't.

[Rory]

I go be it.

[Julian]

Throw all the colored flags you want.

[Mal]

Can't do it.

[Damaris]

He run to water.

[Julian]

He love a color flag flying like the LGBTQ flag. Roy, I'll be right there.

[Rory]

You're actually making me like her more.

[Mal]

Yeah. I love a woman with damn mommy.

[Damaris]

Issues and daddy issues.

[Julian]

Those are the ones I love on a flat.

[Mal]

She doesn't know her father. Oh, man. Chicken out Tuesday.

[Rory]

She might key my 1993 Chevy Malibu.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Come on in.

[Mal]

Come on in. Oh, God.

[Julian]

You guys ever do that or have that happen to you? Key a car or get your shit with?

[Mal]

Never.

[Julian]

I had a couple tires in my day.

[Mal]

You blew up tires?

[Rory]

You've. Wait, you did that?

[Julian]

Yup. Some kids were fucking with my brother. Nah.

[Damaris]

Oh, I thought you were.

[Julian]

Hell no.

[Mal]

I'm about to say yo. Are you kidding me? You supposed to keep that forever, ever? Don't ever let nobody know that.

[Julian]

No. That's corny as.

[Rory]

Yo.

[Mal]

So the rival.

[Rory]

A girl's tire.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Then he gave us the. Like, he's showing us how he did it. I'm like, that's not.

[Julian]

It was guys.

[Mal]

It was guys.

[Rory]

The conference. Like, she should have known.

[Mal]

Like, yo. To a girl, put you a heart in this. Yeah. Like, what the.

[Julian]

Is that my cologne on it?

[Mal]

You can't do that. That's crazy. You can't.

[Julian]

No, no. It was kids from. It was racist from the neighborhood. Bring something.

[Mal]

Oh, yeah. If it's other boys. If it's other boys.

[Julian]

Their Volvo up theme trick. No, but on the spot.

[Damaris]

I got mad at a. One time. I went back to him, so it was the point. I got mad at him.

[Mal]

I went back to him. I'm glad you said that.

[Damaris]

And I didn't want to see him. I didn't want to talk to him. So I mailed, like, all his clothes that I had his. I mailed them to him. But I like, sprayed my perfume on them before I mailed them. And I think. Think, yeah, I think I like, accidentally. No. Yeah, I spray my perfume on everything before I mailed it back to him.

[Julian]

What do you mean you accidentally. You accidentally got back with him?

[Rory]

Yo. Accidentally getting back.

[Mal]

Yo, man, y'all be. Let Damaris say anything over there, man. I accidentally got. What are you talking about? Accidentally offset.

[Rory]

Accidentally went to that club he didn't know she was hosting.

[Julian]

Accidentally had sex eight months pregnant.

[Mal]

I'm just saying, why y be like, demar.

[Rory]

You never accidentally, like.

[Damaris]

Like you ended back up in some shit. You ain't had no business.

[Julian]

I've accidentally.

[Mal]

A girl don't do that accidentally. I accidentally did. What?

[Damaris]

Ended up with some shit. You ain't had no business with that you said you was done.

[Mal]

You definitely. There wasn't an accident about it. I got horny. I'm like, fuck it, man. That put that shit good. I got. I'm calling her. Put my pride to the side. It wasn't no accident. I went right to her name in my phone and called her.

[Rory]

It's not my fault. We both happened to be at last live.

[Mal]

Yeah, that's not my fault.

[Rory]

I haven't seen her in a while.

[Damaris]

No. I've gone to spend like. I've gone to, like, leave the block and. And it around. I didn't know it was a one way. I had to turn around, spin it. I didn't know.

[Mal]

I didn't know it was lying.

[Rory]

Sometimes they don't make those signs, like.

[Damaris]

Yeah, like you don't know till you get to the end of the. It's a cul de sac. I didn't know that.

[Julian]

Yeah, it's one of those lollipop streets.

[Rory]

First of all, cul de sac being a one way is impossible.

[Mal]

Oh, man.

[Rory]

Culde sack can't be a one way.

[Mal]

What is Bill Belichick, nasty ass doing.

[Rory]

Man, Wearing Taylor Swift and merch.

[Julian]

He's living his best, trying to relate to his audience in Nantucket.

[Damaris]

That 23 year old is sucking the life out that dick. Literally.

[Julian]

Do you think he can get hard?

[Mal]

What?

[Julian]

What pill is he's he on? Bluechew.

[Mal]

How old is Bill Belichick?

[Julian]

He's like 73.

[Damaris]

He really got a penis pump.

[Rory]

He's not that old. He's 73.

[Julian]

I think he's in his 70s.

[Rory]

I would have said like mid-60s or something.

[Julian]

72.

[Mal]

Okay.

[Julian]

She's 23. Three.

[Mal]

All right, Bill. That girl can't have nasty.

[Rory]

That girl cannot have a father.

[Damaris]

I hate when y'all say that. I really do.

[Mal]

I mean, I just.

[Rory]

They're both consenting adults, but she can't have a father.

[Damaris]

What the does.

[Rory]

She's just trying to blow him grave. What exactly change?

[Damaris]

What do you think? What? You think you gonna be able to tell amar when she's 22?

[Rory]

You think I'm allowing Amara at 24 years old? I don't care how many super bowl rings you have.

[Damaris]

What are you going to tell her? What are you gonna be avatar@24?

[Mal]

I ain't gonna lie. If your daughter is 24, dating a 72 year old, you failed as a father.

[Rory]

I. I agree with you. 100. I couldn't agree more.

[Damaris]

Now, that I don't blame. I don't. I don't. I'm not gonna say that you're wrong on that, but what I'm gonna say is. But we've had the conversation where you guys are like, you know, you can raise your kids the best way you can, and they can still go and do some wild. You can raise your daughter. You can give her everything in the world. She can be amazing. She could be smart, and then she could look you in your face, be like, dad, this is five deep breaths away from the grave. And I'm about to come up. What you want me to do? You want me to go date a broke right now? I'm 23. It's not like I'm about to find the love of my life right now.

[Mal]

You can go find somebody more your age, demo that has a decent job and be happy, too.

[Rory]

Or you're.

[Damaris]

You can.

[Rory]

Or your success doesn't need to be based off the death of an old man. Or you can, like, get a career. I'm sure you can follow your dreams.

[Damaris]

I'm sure you can, but maybe she doesn't want. Who says she's not following her dreams?

[Rory]

I've never been to Nantucket, but I'm.

[Mal]

Sure she following her dream. I know exactly what dream she had. We've seen this dream before.

[Rory]

She's dream chaser.

[Mal]

It's called a dream deferred.

[Julian]

She's a dream chaser.

[Mal]

She chasing her dream, right?

[Julian]

I mean, look at Bill. Taylor Swift. He's with the Times. He's cool. He just started his own Instagram, too. Look, she's doing good for him.

[Damaris]

She keeping him alive. Keeping him.

[Julian]

You know, takes a little spark plug to keep you up.

[Rory]

There's no way. I don't care how crazy her head game is. You could get Bill Belichick. Does not have. Have the patience to deal with. He didn't have the patience to deal with Tom Brady.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

You think he has the patience for a 23 year old Taylor Swift fan?

[Mal]

Sick. That is crazy.

[Julian]

Look at Popey.

[Damaris]

Let people be happy. She's happy.

[Mal]

Ain't no. Let people be happy. That's nasty.

[Damaris]

She. It is. But she's happy. He's happy.

[Mal]

She ain't happy, man.

[Rory]

She.

[Damaris]

Look, she's smiling ear to ear in every photo.

[Rory]

She. She on vacation that she had to pay for.

[Mal]

Yeah, she went to. She went to. Yeah, they're out of the country on his credit card.

[Julian]

Like maybe that's not bost behind.

[Damaris]

We've had the conversation about older dudes. Maybe he's teaching her some things. Maybe he's putting her on the game.

[Mal]

He's teaching her how to take a multivitam.

[Julian]

Teaching her the X and O's.

[Mal]

He teaches her how to take her multivitamins and nickel. How important it is to take magnesium every day.

[Julian]

He's teaching her the nickel offense or something.

[Rory]

Had a disguise of 34.

[Mal]

He's like, see here, the safety's in a flat. This is what we call a flat. The safety's in. This is when you want to check down and then go long.

[Julian]

She is cheesing in all these photos though.

[Rory]

Yeah, she's cheesing because young girls know how to take photos.

[Mal]

She's cheesing because she know that she. She probably in the will.

[Julian]

Damn.

[Mal]

This is dusting.

[Julian]

Come on. He looks like he's having a great time.

[Mal]

He's walking into heaven right there.

[Rory]

Yo.

[Damaris]

All right, all right. It's time to go.

[Rory]

Because he's 73. Look at him.

[Julian]

Not the links.

[Mal]

Walking into the light.

[Damaris]

Look, walking.

[Mal]

He's walking. She's giving us. She's leaving us breadcrumbs.

[Rory]

She's.

[Mal]

She's gonna kill the greatest NFL coach of all time and then we're gonna get a documentary about it. And not picked up on the clues of how this young 23 year old girl killed the greatest head coach in football history.

[Rory]

Yeah, but what a way to go out.

[Mal]

She's making pictures for his obituary. That's a beautiful obituary picture.

[Julian]

Seeing Bill in like real clothing, not in. On a fucking football field. These are some of the only photos of him doing regular.

[Rory]

Yeah, we didn't even know.

[Mal]

Show that picture of him on a golf course.

[Julian]

He was walking.

[Rory]

That looks like a meme. Like that's. That's the one they put in peach.

[Mal]

If you put sunrise 1937 sunset. That's an obituary.

[Rory]

The pamphlet that you get when you walk in.

[Mal]

Look, she's giving us the obituary right in front of our eyes again. We're like, oh, she's happy. She's. She's about to kill Bill.

[Julian]

Talking about kill Bill.

[Mal]

She's about to kill Bill. The are we talking about?

[Rory]

But if you have to go out though, he's. He's 72. He probably doesn't even know girls like girls yet. Like, this is a whole new world to me.

[Mal]

N you see, you got Bill, you don't know. Bill, you don't know.

[Rory]

I don't know. I don't know. I'm never.

[Mal]

You don't know. But he been around NFL players too many times to not know that girls don't like girls. You kidding me?

[Rory]

Nah, Bill, I think kept. Kept to the office.

[Mal]

Look, she's hiding behind a flower pot. Soil. Dirt. Dirt.

[Rory]

She's pregnant.

[Mal]

Buried.

[Julian]

Oh, look at him petting a goat.

[Rory]

Look at him petting himself.

[Julian]

Taught himself. That's right. I know they hung out with Brady like that.

[Rory]

You know you owe when you wear long sleeve button up shirts in the tropics.

[Damaris]

Yeah, well, he doesn't. Well, he's also white. He probably doesn't want to get burnt like you.

[Rory]

Yeah, but I just don't go outside.

[Mal]

Then that must suck, not being able to go outside on vacation.

[Rory]

Yo, Rory.

[Damaris]

Rory was at that Las Vegas. Vegas pool, palm tree, machete. He had the whole towel over him. Shorts, sunglasses. I'm like, oh, my God, look at my little amoeba.

[Rory]

Speaking of Bill, though, have you guys started the Aaron Hernandez?

[Mal]

Oh, I didn't know. You told me to start it. I was watching.

[Rory]

I'm three episodes in.

[Julian]

Isn't it just all about, like, he did it all because he's gay?

[Mal]

Ryan Murphy's doing this one too?

[Damaris]

Yep.

[Mal]

Yo, what's up with Ryan Murphy? Can we have a talk about him next episode, man?

[Rory]

Yo, I'm happy to have the con.

[Mal]

We need to have a conversation about Ryan Murphy next.

[Rory]

All right, first of all, they did the same thing with his documentary on Netflix. Netflix tried to, like, avoid that. He probably had CTE and he was just angry because he was gay. That's what they're doing in this series too.

[Julian]

Really?

[Rory]

Well, he has cte. Stop saying he was so. He was so gay that he was just like, oh, I gotta murder someone, gotta kill people.

[Mal]

Yeah, I'm living in the closet, I'm screaming for help.

[Rory]

You're avoiding him. Probably having one of the most severe cases of cte. Ever.

[Mal]

Oh, he just. And on top of that, he probably okay to say somebody was a piece of.

[Damaris]

Ryan Murphy did the Menendez brothers show, too, right?

[Julian]

Yeah, he did. He also did Dahmer and what really popped his career, American Horror Story. He started that.

[Mal]

I'm watching him, and he's a great resume.

[Julian]

Incredible.

[Damaris]

He said that he is his fault. He said the Menendez brothers need to thank him. They haven't gotten this much attention in years. Like, he's the reason everybody knows their name.

[Rory]

Kim Kardashian even said that they're innocent.

[Julian]

She said three of the guys, everybody.

[Damaris]

Been knew about the Menendez brothers.

[Rory]

Like, one of the biggest cases ever.

[Mal]

My thing about it is, I just. Why is this? So why is the Menendez, like, it's a good show. I'm like, a few episodes in. But why does it have to be so homoerotic? Like, why does it. That's my only.

[Rory]

Because one of them was gay.

[Damaris]

Cool.

[Mal]

But why does it.

[Julian]

And there's mad molestation in it. Like, that's pretty homoerotic.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

But I just think it's a way to get that part of the story out without being so visual about it.

[Rory]

Well, I think even though I skipped through most of that fourth episode, I think they were trying to drive home the point of what those kids went through to understand why they hadn't a gruesome murder scene in the first episode. So how did we get here? He was sodomized and in the ass, and we have to drive it home. That's why I killed my parents. Like, even though I skipped through it, I. I get it from a director producer level. If we need to tell the story, let's tell it right. These kids were thoroughly abused. So again, something I skipped over.

[Mal]

I don't want to see that shit.

[Rory]

I didn't want to watch Aaron Hernandez beaten off to gay porn on the second episode. I thought that was a little excessive, but I didn't think the Menendez shit was too excessive. It was a story.

[Damaris]

And what people will say is that they.

[Mal]

Why not just show me a gay porn? Like, cassette tape? Like, somebody found gay porn and we get it. Like, oh, he watches gay porn. You ain't got to show me Aaron Hernandez jacking off the gay porn. It's like, come on.

[Damaris]

Not only that, he was just the same complaint. Complaints with straight sex in movies.

[Mal]

Yes, I do. I hate when this is too much. I'm like, yo, come on, fam. It was a movie. It was a show. We talked about euphoria, euphoria.

[Damaris]

Yeah, it was gay. It was dicks, though. You didn't want to see dicks in euphoria. You ain't care about seeing shorty titties.

[Julian]

Well, they are heavy. No one's gonna.

[Rory]

Not even with insecure. There was people that were saying, like, all right, you guys are doing like, a lot of sex here.

[Mal]

Exactly.

[Damaris]

I think it was power, too. Power was a lot power was a lot power.

[Mal]

We spoken about. We've spoken about het. When it's too much, it's just too much sex, period. It's like, yo, come on, fam. This shows. Yo. There's shows in the UK that come on regular television. Like, you just plug your TV in where they are butt naked dating each other.

[Damaris]

Oh, I saw those. I saw.

[Julian]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Damaris]

They were like, like on like an island.

[Mal]

I'm talking about regular tv.

[Rory]

This is.

[Mal]

A kid could just turn it and it's on. Like, they're just naked. That's not crazy.

[Damaris]

This is the same.

[Rory]

Yeah, because, I mean, power, for example, like that late night TV be. Kids shouldn't be watching it. It was at its right time. But even like, when Lorenz Tate became the mayor and his first sex scene, I was like, this is porn. I'm watching porn on Showtime. Thank you for the nostalgic because you guys used to show porn, but I don't. I don't need it in the show.

[Damaris]

I get it. I'm never complaining about Loren's tape.

[Rory]

It brought nothing to the storyline whatsoever. Yeah, I think overly sexual shows are kind of unnecessary, but sexual sex cells, at least, like, Euphoria did a lot of that, but it had to do with a storyline and everything that was going on. Power. They was just.

[Damaris]

They was.

[Mal]

Yeah, that's different.

[Rory]

Some good sex scenes, though.

[Damaris]

Great sex.

[Julian]

Do you guys agree with Kim Kardashian's post about she it's time to free the Menendez brothers?

[Rory]

I don't know.

[Julian]

You think she'd like to have them hang around her kids just not conscious?

[Damaris]

Yeah, Julian, Some things don't need to be.

[Rory]

It's weird. Like, I'm glad the Menendez brothers are getting their. Their just due with the public now, thanks to Ryan Murphy and Kim Kardashian. Like, they clearly went through something.

[Mal]

Yes, they did, like, make that very clear. They were abused. They were. They were sexually, sexually abused.

[Rory]

But I'm also like, pardon the conservative in me, why no one really cared about the Menendez brothers in this 30 years years is because they brutally murdered their parents.

[Damaris]

Like, their parents that were raping them though, right?

[Rory]

But the father was allegedly doing that, and the mother covered it up. I get it, I get it. But to then be like, yo, we should free people. Where do we draw the line?

[Mal]

Was that. No, no, hold on. Because I will say, I will say I'm on the side of if you kill somebody that's sexually abusing you three to guys, fact. If somebody is molesting you, you, somebody raped you, and you see them again somewhere down the road in life, you decide you want to kill them.

[Rory]

I kept going to church every Sunday.

[Mal]

Three, three of the guys I'm with that I'm with killing sexual abusers. You rape somebody, you molest somebody, you need to die.

[Rory]

I agree.

[Mal]

That's where I'm at.

[Julian]

That's true. Yes.

[Mal]

So I understand what Kim is saying. Yo, listen, we know their story.

[Damaris]

And they've also, they've done some years.

[Mal]

Like, they've done time in prison.

[Julian]

Yeah, they've been in the prison.

[Mal]

You understand that?

[Rory]

Almost 30 years.

[Mal]

We understand that. So I, I, I see where Kim is going, going, because it's hard for me to say nah, because again, they were sexually abused. They're saying the mom covered it up. She knew all the years. I don't know. You know what I mean? That was family business. I don't know if that part of the story is true, but I definitely feel like the father should have died if he was the one that was molesting him.

[Rory]

And nasty fuck kill him, kill him.

[Mal]

Again, you know what I'm saying? Like, I'm on that side. The mother is the part. I'm kind of like, I don't know if that was just some a casualty because it was like witnesses. You ain't want her to either. You know what I mean? She would have told on y'all. So that's why I'm kind of shaky about the mother part of it. Like, I don't know if y'all was supposed to kill moms, though, but I don't know. But if y'all saying she knew and she covered it up and she didn't, how you.

[Rory]

I think some somebody that is being sexually abused kills their abuser. I'm with Maul all the way, but there's a lot of gray area in this case case, and this is not going to come across of not believing victims whatsoever. I do believe them when it comes to the court, even though I don't really agree with our judicial system that much. There is some good in our judicial system. You have to prove it.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

So if they were Proven to brutally murder their parents the way they did. Hearsay. Can't excuse it.

[Mal]

Okay, that's fair.

[Rory]

I believe them on a moral side. Yeah.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

That guy is. I don't know if moms. Because moms also. With an abusive father like that, you don't know how terrified your mother was either.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

If he's capable of raping his own sons.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Who knows what the he was doing to mom. So you did murder your mother, even though she was complicit. You don't know why she was complicit in the entire.

[Mal]

I would have went another way. I would have tried to get moms in on it. I would have sat moms down, like.

[Rory]

Listen, I gave her the shotty, but.

[Damaris]

If she's who they're saying she was, then she would have told him.

[Mal]

Yeah. Yeah. So that's what I'm saying.

[Damaris]

We don't know, like, just like, as a woman, like. And second of all, you're a parent. It don't matter. You. You die about Amara.

[Rory]

Kill everybody that touches a kid. I'm fine with that.

[Damaris]

So it's. I don't want to hear like. So I want to carefully word this. When people are victims, I'm never, ever victim blaming. But when you made the decision to have children. When you made the decision to have children, you being a victim, your children are supposed to come first. So if there was any inclination, inkling that you had that this man was touching your children, you should have died trying to change, trying to save your children. I don't give a fuck.

[Rory]

Again, it's speculation of how much she really knew. From the entire. It's so much gray area that I see why the court system was like, yeah, all right. But the evidence we do have is you guys admitting to murdering your parents. Well, I'm not saying. I'm not saying it's right, but to then just free them makes the court system, like, at what point now hearsay can get any of us out?

[Damaris]

So it's only hearsay? There's nothing else?

[Rory]

Not really, no.

[Julian]

Because this is. This is why I'm stuck on this. Because they said, like, that sexual evidence was circumstantial. I'm confused because. Because we, obviously, the story is told from their perspective. We only see these journey through the lens of the brothers, never the parents. Right. So even when the parents are speaking and even when they're interacting with each other is through the lens of what they believe that they. How they would act. The only shot that we see that's from the Parents perspective is at the end, at the very last scene in the whole fucking show. Spoiler alert. They're on the boat is when they did the fishing trip. And we see the parents talking to each other about the boys who are on the other side of the boat. Remember earlier in the series, we see that scene and the boys, like, they're gonna kill us. They're gonna do all this.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Julian]

The parents are sitting at the edge of the boat. Like, why don't they come over here? Like, what is going on? Like, why are they being so weird? They're like, whatever. Like, that's just how they are. So for the first time, we're seeing the parents give that us. Their opinion. Their, like, take about how the whole situation was playing out. Which doesn't allude or agree or match up with at all what the boys have been saying.

[Damaris]

But the.

[Julian]

So then I'm like, did the sex thing and if it happened to have whatever didn't. Did that ever happen or. Because there was also. They were reading literature saying, like, how to pretty much get off blame sexual assault. That's your. That's your golden ticket out of these situations. If you were. If you were. If it was self defense and you were sexually assaulted, this is how you can get off. They were reading stuff like that. They were studying other cases that like, mirrored what they were going through. Like, they were.

[Rory]

They were smart.

[Julian]

Yeah. My dickhead for saying, like, they are not. I don't fucking believe them. They're sociopaths.

[Rory]

And. And that's my thing with this whole case. It's too much gray area to be like, yo, let's let them out. After brutally murdering two people there. It's way too much gray.

[Julian]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Rory]

Of somebody that has been a victim of this exact crime. I don't think there's enough there to just be like, oh, yeah, free him there. It's too much gray area. Like, it's way too much gray area. But I'm still on the side of anyone that touches the kid. I can't.

[Mal]

Life.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Julian]

Yeah, of course.

[Mal]

So, I mean, double homicide, what they did 30.

[Rory]

30 now. Yeah. This is like 92. 3.

[Mal]

So life is usually like 40 years or something like that. When you can like, sentenced to life. Like you usually.

[Rory]

It's usually like your life.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Mal]

No, but some. You're sentenced to life. That don't mean. That doesn't mean you serve life.

[Rory]

That's true.

[Mal]

It's people that had life sentences.

[Rory]

Well, some people get 50 to life. 30 to life.

[Mal]

Like, so this is what I'm saying.

[Julian]

I think they were life without parole.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

I think based on off life in.

[Mal]

Prison without the possibility of.

[Julian]

Yeah, both of them. Both of them.

[Rory]

Yeah. There was a fucking. They shot double homicide.

[Mal]

I think it was the conspiracy to murder, too. That's.

[Julian]

Yeah, it was really.

[Mal]

Yeah, that's what really happened. It's like, oh, yeah, you. Y. Y'all knew y'all. Now, if it was just you walked in a room and he was trying to have sex with your brother, and you just was like, nah, fuck that, and killed him, that's a little different. But when y'all plan it and y'all know when and when y'all are going to do it, it's like, oh, okay. Y'all are pieces of. I get it. I understand.

[Julian]

There are 56 and 53 now.

[Damaris]

Well, so. So, okay, so when we say hearsay, right, Because I'm looking at some of the evidence from the case or whatever, because there's a new letter that's come out that was dated from 1988, which was December 1988, about eight months before the crime.

[Julian]

Before the.

[Damaris]

Yeah, the letter reads, in part. I've been trying to avoid that is still happening from. To his cousin Andy, who. Andy also came and testified at the trials and said that at age 13, yada, yada. So, I mean, yes.

[Rory]

That his dad definitely did that nasty ass. I'm just. It's just so. So much gray area of whose word against whose.

[Julian]

Like, there's a point in the show, too, where Lyle, the older brother, who is the more, you know, a brute of the couple, was bringing in people and calling them through the jail phone like they were coming in, doing visiting hours, and he was telling them to, like, accuse. Accused their dad of, like, he tried to touch you. Right? And they're like, what are you talking about? He goes, just say when you get on the stand that he tried to you like, he was trying to, like. I get it. If there's some truth to that with these letters, I get it. But he's also, like, painting this bigger picture that didn't exist.

[Rory]

Older brother was very manipulative. Took. Took advantage of his little brother as well.

[Julian]

Yeah. Lyle's a piece of him and his wig.

[Rory]

I feel for the younger brother especially, but, I mean, good series.

[Julian]

Yeah, it was good.

[Rory]

You guys have to watch the Aaron Hernandez shit tonight, please, so we can come back. A new episode comes out today. If you're listening to this pod, it comes out on Tuesdays. You guys have to watch it. I started laughing at times I shouldn't have been laughing.

[Mal]

Aaron.

[Rory]

And this one, it's like one of those really good but bad series. And I was just sitting there trying to see who they were going to cast as Bill Belichick and Robert Craig Craft, which is hilarious. I can't wait till they get to Brady.

[Mal]

Oh, God.

[Rory]

Like, who do they have as Gronk? I gotta know. Who do they have is. Oh, no, Moss wasn't there at that time. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Moss.

[Julian]

I love their. You guys see the video, the clips going viral? Because, you know, actors. I watched actors are not athletic. This is. That's his 40.

[Rory]

That was his 4. 440.

[Julian]

That was his 4, 4 40. Like, oh, damn, this guy's a beast. Our actors are so unathletic.

[Mal]

Absolutely nailed the explosiveness.

[Julian]

There was one where he was running around.

[Rory]

Oh, the route. Yeah. From DJ to Aaron. This is such a bad round is.

[Mal]

About to come out. Whoa, look at the.

[Julian]

Look at the cut they make when the ball comes down.

[Rory]

And how excited they are.

[Julian]

Dude, he's a beast.

[Mal]

What? What is that?

[Rory]

Yo, Coach Myers. That just everything. Tim Tebow, whoever. Whoever they casted for Tim Tebow was hilarious. All of it is just funny. Like, I shouldn't have been laughing through most of it, but I was thoroughly entertained.

[Damaris]

Do you.

[Rory]

I'm not here to on it. I'm encouraging people to watch it so they can laugh with me.

[Mal]

Yeah, I'm gonna definitely watch it.

[Rory]

I loved all three episodes.

[Mal]

Yeah, I'm gonna watch it. It's only three episodes.

[Rory]

Fourth one comes out.

[Julian]

They're doing it weekly.

[Mal]

Oh, weekly. Okay. Okay. All right. So I'll catch up to it. All right, cool.

[Rory]

That's Bill right there.

[Julian]

That's actually not a bad casting. Oh, that's Robert Craft.

[Rory]

Also not bad casting. That's how Robert Craft looked.

[Julian]

Yeah, they said I. That whole scene about should they draft him or not. I saw that clip that was going around like, yeah, it him.

[Rory]

Which is probably what happened.

[Mal]

Yeah, we'll straighten him out. We'll straighten him out.

[Julian]

That's literally. That's exciting.

[Rory]

I gotta get back to my 23 year old.

[Julian]

Well, she was probably six when this word. No, she wasn't alive. Right.

[Damaris]

This was it. It was not.

[Julian]

Oh, yeah, no, sorry.

[Rory]

How old do you think Aaron Hernandez was? This was in the Bledsoe era. But yeah, it's. It's very funny. I cannot wait to see the rest of the Patriots team that they cast. Do you know Edge of my seat?

[Damaris]

Do you guys know if his, like, baby mother and like, Kid get money from this. Like, I just feel like so many people kind of like raped this story. I've seen a hundred different documentaries about it. There's a show about it now, the.

[Rory]

Theory of why he killed himself while he put at the end of a suicide note, you're rich now. Or something along those lines was he thought he found a loophole where the patriot have to honor his contract because he still had an appeal. If you get convicted of a crime like that, your contract is ripped up. We don't owe you any money. But he still had appeals left, which meant that that would keep that money in limbo. And if he killed himself, you become in the state of Massachusetts, an innocent man because you were never fully convicted and exhausted all your appeals. So technically in Massachusetts, you would be an innocent man if you died.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Rory]

So he killed himself thinking that his daughter and wife would get that contract. Also short sighted. Outside of the suicide part, if you think Robert Kraft doesn't have the lawyers to get through that. Robert Kraft is not giving your family a dime at all.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Rory]

So that's not gonna happen. But that's the theory on why he killed himself to make sure his wife and daughter. Because he knew he was going to exhaust his appeals like he was guilty of all that. It wasn't gonna happen. So if he stayed alive, his. His family would get no money. But even after killing himself, they still haven't gotten a dime.

[Damaris]

But what I'm.

[Rory]

I think she's dating some dude in the mob right now.

[Damaris]

What I'm saying is, are they money from these, from these docket?

[Rory]

Like, I don't know. Do.

[Damaris]

That's what I'm saying. Like, if, if my husband dies, do you have to come to. To me to get the rights to make a movie about him or.

[Rory]

It depends if you own certain life rights. Like, yeah, it depends because I know.

[Damaris]

Like, for example, if you want to make a movie about Whitney Houston, you have to go to the people who own the rights to her story. Same thing with Aaliyah. Same thing with all those things. So that's why I was wondering, like, is she making any money from people raping this fucking story to death? Sorry for my bad choice of words.

[Mal]

I mean, as long as they're not putting her name in the story.

[Rory]

She's a ho. She's been the main focus of the first three episodes. They met in high school. She's in episode one, minute one.

[Damaris]

And even if she isn't in it, so what? Like, that's my. This is my husband. This Is my child's father. Like I should have a say on whether y'all keep making movies about his life that are being advertised. That my kid has to grow up, keep seeing this over and over again.

[Mal]

I get it. But probably not. She probably ain't getting paid for nothing. Yeah.

[Rory]

I doubt she is. Which is up. I agree. I think she should.

[Mal]

Because the story is public information, Right? The case. Yeah.

[Rory]

Oh, this Peter saying, the Son of Sam law where you can't profit off the crimes that you do. When Son of Sam was trying to write a book. David Berkowitz. Never mind. Wrong day. They changed the law where you can't profit off the crimes that you do from jail. Because he was trying to sell.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

His life story.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

I don't know if it applies in this situation, but yeah. More so I would have to say. The first thing I noticed was how much they use accurate, like Patriots jerseys, logos, everything. Like Robert Kraft definitely eaten off. There's no way he cleared everything. It's not like certain shows where they'll like make up the team. Like, it's. It's the New England. What's the guy that said the British are coming?

[Julian]

The Paul Revere.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

It's not like the New England Paul Reveres. Like, they didn't make up like any given Sunday when they made up like a completely different team. They're like, yo, Paul Revere, New England, Miami Sharks. Like the Dolphin, the crosstown team. The Dolphins is competing with the Sharks. Like, no, it's not even the same league. So the fact that they're using jerseys logos, everything with the NFL makes me think that Robert, Katie, tell. All of them are. Are profiting off this entire thing.

[Mal]

Probably. Well, I'm going to start it though, because you definitely been talking about it all weekend. So I'm definitely.

[Rory]

To me, it's still the craziest story in sports history ever.

[Mal]

Yeah, I think so.

[Rory]

I think it's crazier than O.J.

[Mal]

This is way crazy.

[Julian]

We were having that conversation on Discord. I said the only thing that makes OJ More of a moment is his personal celebrity. If Aaron Hernandez was like that, that type of public facing celebrity, then this would have. It wouldn't even be close. But O.J. was O.J.

[Mal]

No. This story is way crazy.

[Damaris]

Crazier. But it's not as big of a story because of. He wasn't O.J. o.J.

[Rory]

Pro bowl title.

[Mal]

Oh, yeah. It was a big approach. The O.J. trial was a bigger.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Mal]

But this story he was killing and.

[Julian]

Going back to the Game scoring in the super bowl.

[Mal]

Like, yo, what are we doing? Like, you know how great.

[Rory]

And not only that, like, all right, Patriots are the Patriots. Let's not forget that. That Florida Gators team was probably one of the most famous football rosters of all time. Tebow had that. Tebow was the Kardashians of sports at that time. He went from the most famous college football team when he was murking people in Gainesville, shooting up clubs, killing people.

[Julian]

As like, you're a star.

[Rory]

And then went to his dorm room and no. Then went to church with Sim T Tebow because he found God after that. And then was like, nah, never mind. I think I want to keep killing people. Then went to the biggest organization at that time, Dynasty. You're a Pro bowl tight end with two rings. Three. One ring. Yeah. That's up there with O.J. as far as fame goes, in my opinion. And you murked how many people? Double homicide, recipes, Odin Lloyd. Then you're coming off two. Two killings and floor Florida. Yeah, it's crazy. Than O.J. to me.

[Mal]

Yeah, no, for sure. I agree with you on that. All right, well, tickets available. We will be in Toronto October 17th. We will be in Atlanta November 22nd and then New York December 14th. Tickets are available now at newroariandmal.com Looking forward to seeing the beautiful people of Toronto.

[Rory]

Can't wait.

[Mal]

Got to make some calls to get you through the border. Don't worry about. I got you.

[Rory]

Nah, I got my guy Snow good.

[Mal]

It's all good.

[Damaris]

What about your whole ass Auntie? Oh, great grandma.

[Rory]

I mean, she's dead.

[Mal]

That was Montreal, though. She late. She made her bones in Mon.

[Rory]

She's not. She's not 225 years old yet.

[Damaris]

I mean, you sucking that much dick like you got to have connect still alive.

[Julian]

Must have superpowers.

[Mal]

Yeah. Auntie is dead. Rest in.

[Rory]

She's Illuminati at that point. Yeah, like lizard people try to tell y'all from the moon any.

[Mal]

Anyway, we'll talk to you on a couple days. Be safe, be blessed. I'm that he's just Ginger. Peace.