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Mal
No worry enough. It's really good.
Rory
Sometimes we say things that we really don't mean we do things in between lines. We should do more to stand out. I'm sorry if I made you feel less than who you are A little insecure oh, give the shining stuff I want to spend my nights with you.
Damaris
My life with you oh, baby, babe, please it up for me to Whenever.
Rory
I get home of course I know that you're all alone Thinking about what you going to I hope that you'll see it through oh, you're going to.
Mal
Love me and we're back.
Damaris
We are.
Mal
How many days was that? One.
Damaris
Yeah.
Mal
12 hours since I saw you.
Damaris
If that.
Mal
How you feeling? You got a haircut?
Damaris
I did.
Mal
Hold on, let me check you. Let me check you out.
Damaris
Let me see a little earth tones.
Mal
On today on the barber chart.
Damaris
You really think I walk in the barbershop and point you've done that?
Mal
Don't say you haven't done it.
Damaris
I swear on my life, I've never.
Mal
Even as a kid.
Damaris
No.
Mal
Really?
Damaris
No, don't.
Mal
See, you ain't a real. I thought you was one of us.
Damaris
I'm not a black man. It was only black people on that chart.
Mal
No, that's not true. Depending on what barbershop you went to, we had some. We had some Latinos, some. Some. Some, you know, white boys. On the charts, Rory pointed out the.
Rory
Low cut Caesar with the deep waves.
Damaris
I'm on the side that Dominicans are also black. That's why.
Julian
Well, I mean, Rory walked in the barbershop with a picture of Travis Kelce and said, I'll take this.
Mal
I'm not gonna lie. I was watching these shout out to the Yankees.
Damaris
My barber did say that to me, like six months ago. Whenever that whole thing happened with Travis Kelce, I sat in the chair and he's like, you want the Kelsey? I was like, I'm getting the out of here.
Mal
I was watching the Yankee game the other. Was it last night?
Damaris
Yeah.
Mal
And Travis Kelce was there. I ain't gonna lie, man. Ever since he broke up with Kayla, he lost all his like. Like, he's a white boy now.
Damaris
He definitely does have the possibly racist mustache. Possibly gay or racist? You're not sure which one?
Mal
Like, he. He definitely lost all of the back.
Damaris
To his roots man sauce.
Mal
That Kayla, you know, she. She had. She had. She provided him with your friend and.
Damaris
Kayla had a little back and forth. My friend, over this past weekend. We're like a week late.
Mal
Who?
Damaris
Tiana Taylor.
Mal
Really? What happened With Tiana and Kayla.
Damaris
Kayla, a friend of the show, she went on Angel Reese's podcast, and they were having girl talk. You know, back and forth.
Mal
Angel Reese has a podcast?
Damaris
Yeah, she's a multimedia experience. You didn't know the brand.
Julian
She's everywhere, Mom.
Damaris
She's.
Mal
She's a double.
Damaris
Don't sexualize her.
Mal
I mean, I was about to say she's a double.
Damaris
Better not do that.
Mal
She's a double. Double machine.
Damaris
Don't sexualize the woman in a thong apologetically.
Julian
Angel.
Mal
But that's the name of her podcast.
Julian
Yes.
Damaris
Well, I watched the Kayla episode. She's actually pretty good at podcasting as far as, like, an athlete that's just jumping into the genre.
Mal
I gotta check Angel Reese. I like Angel Reeves. I like her personality. Every time I see her speak and, you know, come across a clip, she seems to be like, you know, a cool, cool girl.
Damaris
I'm shocked you didn't hear about this. I know we're late to this, but it was girl gossipy talk, so we'll be late to it.
Mal
So Kayla and Tiana shout out to T. That's family. And I don't know Kayla that well.
Damaris
But they were having their little kikis back and forth about know past relationships.
Rory
And let him watch the clip.
Damaris
Angel had asked Kayla, what's the pettiest thing you've done? And we can play it. Actually, I don't know. The WNBA is established now. They'll probably flag us if we play that.
Mal
Okay.
Damaris
So they're going back and forth talking about relationships. Angel asked, what's the pettiest thing you've ever done? And Kayla explains what she said wasn't exactly petty, just kind of crazy and weird.
Mal
She was not petty crazy.
Damaris
I mean, there's really no explanation for it outside of that. Which she admitted as well. I appreciate her accountability. Yeah, she was dating this guy. They weren't in, like, a real relationship or whatever, but back and forth, you know, seriously talking. He ended their situationship and then got. I mean, we could just say it. It was Shump left and then married Tiana. So that following Halloween.
Mal
Okay.
Damaris
Kayla dressed as Tiana at her Halloween party.
Mal
Oh, okay. All right, all right.
Damaris
So the Internet.
Mal
I see. I see. Where. Where a. Where. Where. Kayla was going a little, you know, if, you know, you know, little. Little. Little sublime shot at shump. Okay, all right.
Damaris
So the Internet got a hold of this, and over the past weekend, it was like, the most trending shit ever. They were kicking Kayla's back in, and I feel for her because she's already been getting her back kicked in by all the Swifties for the last two years.
Mal
For what?
Damaris
Just. Cause Swifties are fucking weird.
Mal
Yeah, but kicking, kicking what? Has Kayla, like said anything about Taylor Swift?
Damaris
No.
Mal
So why?
Damaris
Because they go after any ex that's in relation. But see that, you know, that should be.
Mal
That should be considered Internet bullying. Cyberbullying.
Damaris
Oh.
Mal
She's like, if she didn't say nothing about Taylor Swift and her fan base is just online like saying demeaning things to her. That should be. And I don't believe in cyberbullying, but.
Damaris
That'S broken up for quite some time before he got with Taylor. Like it wasn't even. No overlap.
Mal
Yeah.
Damaris
Like, just weird.
Mal
That's why I don't understand why they would do that.
Damaris
But in the midst of the Swifty world, at least Kayla had black Twitter backing her through that whole thing. Because they were cyberbullying a black woman for no reason.
Mal
Right.
Damaris
Beautiful black woman at that, that just minds her business.
Mal
Beautiful.
Damaris
But the tides turned.
Mal
Yeah.
Damaris
So now Kayla no longer has black Twitter either. She has a friend in me. Yeah, I'm here as far as it goes. We've all made mistakes in our past.
Mal
So they was mad because she brought that story up. Like she.
Damaris
No, it's rightfully so. They found it really weird.
Mal
What was the back and forth between her and Tiana?
Rory
Well, we can pull up Tiana's response.
Mal
But basically Tiana and Shump are divorced.
Damaris
Yes.
Mal
Right. Okay.
Rory
But so basically what happened was when she went on the podcast, she didn't name drop Iman. She just said she dressed up as this person's wife and they were in a very. They were in a very public relationship.
Mal
She went against Julian. Relationship, no names.
Rory
Yeah. But all people got to do is go look at your Halloween costumes and see what celebrity.
Damaris
Kayla should know that as well because unfortunately the Swifties have like found her parents address and like she knows how easily the Internet, so.
Mal
Nah, listen, pull up to my parents house. I love killing fans on my lawn. I love it. Come over if you want with that Internet. And what are they going to do?
Julian
Borrow their mom. Like, these are Taylor Swift fans. What are they going to do?
Mal
No, pull up though.
Damaris
I keep cleaning my guns for no reason.
Mal
I can't wait. I cannot wait.
Damaris
Please pull up right outside my second floor when you pull up.
Mal
Can't, please.
Rory
So, yeah, so basically they found it and the Internet was going crazy. So Tiana posted like a slideshow of all the movies that she's gonna be in after all that was going on. She posted a slideshow, all the movies she's gonna be in. And she basically put a Taylor Swift song in the back and was just like something like, they gonna hate to see a Taylor coming. Cause Tiana Taylor, Taylor Swift, like, she was throwing shade. So everybody kind of got on Tiana, like, you know what, you know, Tiana saw some responses to what she said and then she said, it's really crazy that everyone is allowed to bother me and be distasteful. Everybody gets to play while I move with grace always. But now I want to have a little Sagittarius fun too. And I'm the problem. Her, I'm divorced and happily so. However, her choice of words were very distasteful and uncalled for. She knew exactly what she was doing. That lady said she was famous at the time, quote unquote. Also said, I don't care who sees it because Kayla during the episode said, well, I don't care who sees this. Whatever. It was very distasteful, uncalled for. Most importantly, she knew people would dig. So automatically my name is attached to the nonsense. At that point, she didn't need to add me. That was very quick. That was very clearly a quick search. My name was trending without an app before even saying a word. That's how I seen it. On top of the fact the math ain't math and the facts weren't facting. Talked about the cringe factor. Talked about her intentions being ill and petty. She pulled the black car when it came to Taylor Swift, but in the same circle, turned around and tried to bully the black woman that was married to her situationship she claimed dumped her for me. Dressed up like dressing up like me for what crazy part about it all. I actually showed her love under the pit when she posted like I did the other 3 million something people that dressed up as me for Halloween. Whole time I didn't even know she was being shady. Now I do. So in that case. Petty panties on. I had my little fun. I said what I said I love.
Damaris
When they wear petty, petty panties is funny.
Mal
What color were they teeth?
Julian
What's funny was this.
Damaris
We like a cute aquamarine petty thong.
Julian
It's funny. We've fallen into this topic because one what you said right before we started recording mall I thought you were referring to this topic. That's why I wanted.
Mal
No, I wasn't. I wasn't referring to this. So this was like a news for me. Y'all telling me this. I Understand Tiana's position on it now, while Kayla didn't say any names, and, you know, she didn't.
Damaris
Objective journalism.
Mal
Well, you know, she didn't say any names, so she's telling an honest story. Now, if Tiana's saying her timeline, you know, doesn't add up and things like that in her story, then that's probably where the sit. The situation comes in. Like, oh, so you was messing with him while I was with him? Like, so I guess that's where that comes in. And, you know, listen, man. I mean, Kayla, she. She seemed like she didn't care what she was saying. She knew obviously there was going to be some type of backlash. I think she feels like because Tiana and Shump are no longer and divorced, it was like, okay, it's not like they're taking. It's not like I'm breaking up a house and home. They are already divorced. I'm just telling a story of my past.
Damaris
And I don't think Kayla was saying that they were together when Tiana and Trump were together. Maybe that wasn't.
Rory
No, that's exact. No, that's what she.
Julian
Exactly.
Rory
She literally.
Damaris
She was dumped to go. No, she said he was jumped to go with Tiana.
Mal
Yeah. And. And Tiana's saying he didn't dump you and. And, like, choose me.
Damaris
Like, I'm saying she could have been lying about that, but in the interview, she didn't say that there was crossover. She said was dumped and then he moved on.
Rory
No, no, no, that's not what she said. She said I was talking about moving up there, and then he literally told me he dumped me and then the next day moved in with Shorty. He was dating him at the same time.
Mal
Yeah. So your mom. Your mom was sloppy. He was moving slop.
Damaris
That's not her fault.
Rory
But I don't know. That's not Kayla's fault. And I don't think the Internet, like you said, Kayla, friend of the show. We. We always show Kayla love on here. And I don't know her personally, but the Internet is killing Kayla because even if it wasn't shumping, that is just a story that you just die with. You don't tell nobody you did that.
Mal
But she didn't say no names. It's not about.
Rory
No, no, no. It's not about saying names. It doesn't matter who it could have been with. Larry from third grade saying, it's just losers. Yeah. That's what the Internet is killing her.
Mal
Angel asked her, what's one of the Wildest things she's ever done.
Julian
The point being too truthful.
Mal
See, now, see, that's why I have a problem. When you say somebody too truthful. What do you mean? They not together. Listen, I know that, but they are divorced. So it's not like she's saying that to a couple that is in a happy relationship and together. She didn't say no names. This couple is now divorced, separated. They don't even probably communicate. So she's just telling, yo, this is the pettiest thing I've done. So I think that Kayla is willing to wear whatever comes with that. Like, yo, it was petty. I shouldn't have done it. Whatever, Whatever. But I don't think that she was wrong in saying that if that's the pettiest thing she did.
Damaris
The only wrong part was, was what Tiana did point out, which was when she said she was famous at the time. That was petty and unnecessary.
Mal
I feel like trying to allude that's not famous now.
Damaris
Yes. On Kayla's back. I have to call.
Mal
I don't think that's what she.
Damaris
As a friend. That's nuts. You can't. Yo, she was famous at the time of Taylor.
Mal
She's famous. No, that's a bad. I get what you're saying, but I don't think she meant it like that. I guess she was saying, yo, at the time, she's. She was. She was famous. Like, she. You know, she was. She's popping. I think. I think that it was a bad choice of words because it might lean towards, like, are you saying she's not anymore now?
Damaris
Yeah.
Mal
And I don't think that's what Kayla was doing. I guess she was saying at the time. Yes, she was like. She was lit. She was popping.
Julian
But what about the implication that, like, she pretty much outed Iman? And I'm not saying protect Iman in any of this, but I'm saying she pretty much outed the fact that he. She was. He was seeing with me the same time. Like, that was intentional, too. She slid that in there as, like a. Hey, right before he moved in with you. We were still fucking. That's. She did that on purpose. She muddied the timelines on purpose.
Mal
I mean, yes, again, telling the story is. It's gonna expose some things. People are gonna dig. They're gonna put the puzzle together. But I think Kayla was standing behind. Again, this is just me off of what y'all telling me, which is the truth. I think she's standing behind. It was the truth. They are no longer together. It's not like I'm revealing this in there, like a happy. I'm like, causing turmoil in a happy home. They're divorced, so it's like, okay, like, yeah, this is what happened. I'm sure a reason why they had divorced is because there's probably other stories just like that about Iman. And Tiana was like, man, fuck out of here.
Rory
No, of course. And I think. I think our point is that, yes, Tiana has a reason to be upset, but the Internet is not killing her because it's Tiana. The Internet is killing her because they're calling her a loser for saying that that's what. That's what the. The backlash is.
Mal
She's a loser for saying what the pettiest thing she ever did was.
Rory
She's a loser for doing it.
Damaris
Of dressing up as the girl that your man left.
Mal
She said. She said it was. This is. This was the pettiest that I ever did.
Rory
But you keep saying petty, and I'm like, no, people aren't saying that that's petty. They're saying that that's loser.
Damaris
So loser.
Mal
Petty. Petty and loser is like cousins.
Damaris
Yeah. A lot of petty shit ends up being loser.
Rory
Yeah, for sure.
Mal
They're like first cousins. Yeah, I get it.
Damaris
On the immature side, like, we need to let women know when you do shit like this, it just makes us feel like more of the man. Like, if I see one of my ex joints who I left dressing up as the girl I'm with now, you look like the man at that point. Like, that didn't hurt anyone but you.
Mal
Yeah. And I think that was part of the story. She was like, it was petty. You know, she gets it. Like, it was some petty. She did. She.
Damaris
She knew that was like, they were in the locker room like, yo, shump, I know you had it like that. My bad, bro. You got him in line like that. That's really how that looks in the immature, like, as men and ego.
Julian
That's a tough look.
Damaris
I mean, that's a tough look for who she. She went on the timeline after she got smoked and said, listen, I was just telling the truth about something that was embarrassing. Like, listen, I'm gonna continue to do that. I'm not proud of it.
Mal
It happens, man. Yeah.
Rory
And I don't. I don't judge. I'm not. I don't think anybody should completely hold that against her and judge her for it. Twitter is very mean, and they were the ones up in arms. But, I mean, we've all done embarrassing Shit, I can't imagine me being with a nigga and being madly in love, and then the next day, like, he's all over the bl. One of the finest women in the world. I don't know how I would react.
Mal
What's the pettiest thing you've ever done?
Damaris
Well, it's not petty, but embarrassing, which I told early days of this podcast. When my girl had left me when I was like, 21 or something like that, I took the bus from Jersey City to Hackensack, which is local. It's like a two and a half hour bus ride with a DVD of hers to return. And she liked Subway cookies. So I had a bunch of Subway cookies and the dvd, which she told me she didn't need back, but I was like, no, I got to return. Like, she needs.
Rory
What was the movie?
Mal
Mighty Ducks 3.
Damaris
It might have been, like, Notorious or some stupid shit.
Rory
No, I need.
Mal
No, you got. I need that back. So you got to bring my. If I bring up with a chick. Yo, you got to bring.
Julian
The touries are fire, though.
Damaris
But, yeah, that was like. And remember I told y'all her mom had to be there, and her mom was telling me, like, the loser shit I was doing.
Julian
Like, you home?
Damaris
Yeah, she gave me. No, she drove me to, like, a closer bus stop.
Julian
Okay.
Damaris
And gave me the speech like, yo, you're doing some loser shit. Get over this. She doesn't want you. You look weak right now. Like, she gave me the best mom pep talk and was talking about her own daughter in a. A good and bad way. Like, treat her like a piece of pussy and leave. Like you're caught up on someone that doesn't want you. It's just some pussy leave.
Mal
I was like, yeah, but at 21, that's.
Damaris
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Mal
Because at that age, you don't know when you're going to get some again.
Damaris
I don't know.
Rory
Now, yelling.
Damaris
Why. Why are you making it a 21 thing?
Mal
Wait, hold on. Cause I wasn't expecting you. What you mean you don't know? Now.
Damaris
It'S tough. Oh, having a toddler, man.
Mal
A. Having a family and not knowing what.
Damaris
He cook is supposed only for baby number two. Only for procreation. Ovulation and procreation.
Mal
Yo, that is hilarious, man.
Damaris
Holy maul was saying, off, off, Mike. That was related to the Kayla thing, that women never apologize, and he can't figure it out. So, speaking of ages, it took you this long to realize that it's never gonna happen?
Mal
No.
Damaris
Generations of men are not trying to figure that out.
Mal
Not that I don't realize it, but it's just like. It's always like. Because I'm the type of person, if I'm. If I'm dating somebody, I'm in a relationship with somebody, and I'm wrong, I have no problem apologizing. I think that, like, the sooner you apologize, the quicker y'all can get past the situation and move forward. So if I'm wrong, I'm like, all right, you know what? My bad. I fucked that up. I was wrong. I don't understand why women can't do the same thing when they're, like, dead wrong, though. Like, completely wrong. Like, you got caught doing some shit. You were wrong. Don't try to go silent and avoid the conversation and avoid having to talk about it and take accountability. Just say you sorry. Like, just say you was wrong. You got caught up doing some shit you wasn't supposed to do. There's nothing else you can do.
Damaris
It really has to do with anatomy and DNA. Like, the same way you can't give birth is the same way they're wired.
Mal
You don't know that. Don't say that. Cause you don't know who and what I identify.
Julian
Men are giving birth these days.
Mal
Yeah. I don't wear like. Like, you know, like seahorses.
Damaris
Okay. You as a straight CIS gender male cannot give birth. Is the same way a woman cannot apologize. It's just scientifically not wired that way.
Mal
That's not what Mark Lamont Hill thinks. He thinks that men can, in fact, have.
Damaris
No, he doesn't.
Mal
He said it. What he said Candace Owens. He said it.
Damaris
Oh, that's right. I did see that.
Mal
What you talking about? He said it. He said men could have.
Damaris
In. In the angle he's saying, I guess.
Mal
No, you don't see, this is what's wrong with me.
Damaris
I puss. I'm scared.
Mal
Of what? What are you scared of? Being right.
Damaris
Whoever they are.
Mal
But yes. I'm sorry. Go ahead, man. I didn't mean to cut you off. I'm sorry.
Damaris
No, you didn't know.
Mal
I didn't mean to cut you off. I'm sorry.
Damaris
In that scenario. Yes.
Mal
Okay.
Damaris
Somebody with the reproductive organs that identifies as a man can give birth. I'm talking about, like, I can't. No matter what.
Mal
Right.
Damaris
I identify.
Mal
Cool.
Damaris
Call me. I cannot.
Mal
Right.
Damaris
A child cannot come out of me.
Mal
Right.
Damaris
That's what I was referring to. I think everyone should be whatever they want to be. Love whoever they want to love.
Mal
Yeah.
Damaris
Raymond J. Just want a proper Quote, that's how I feel.
Mal
Right.
Damaris
So. So, Mark, I get it, man. I'm with you. I don't know what Candace was talking about.
Mal
Oh, man. Yeah. I just don't. I just don't get why it's so hard to just. Especially when. No, well, that too. But I just don't understand why it's so hard for women to just say I'm sorry.
Damaris
What made you think that? Was it something specific? Like, are you going through that currently? Like, you were on your phone? Yeah, that's some paragraph texting, not a blue.
Mal
No, it wasn't nothing. It wasn't nothing in particular to me. It was just in reading, like a girl that I used to date, something she posted. And it's like, it's always the, you know, the. The motivational. You know, relationships are hard work. They take time and they, yo, just say you did some wax and got caught and you sorry, like what you posted all this motivational for. Because that's all it is.
Damaris
That's their way of saying sorry.
Mal
That's crazy though, man. Like, just say you. It's. It. It. It saves so much time. It saves so much, like, further unnecessary, like, not speaking and not being happy and being depressed. If you just take accountability for what you did, especially if you know you're wrong and you got caught doing some shit you weren't supposed to be doing. I don't understand how you still try to move and. And pivot out of say like, yo, it's like, if you stealing something and I'm looking at you, steal some shit. It's like, yo, what are you doing?
Damaris
I think it's because women are also wired to, like, hang things over your head and bring up the past and never live shit down. So they think if they apologize, we're going to treat them the same way they treat us. So they're terrified to apologize and say they're wrong because they think, okay, now he can do the same matrix tricks to me and bring up the past of when they were wrong. So they try to avoid that at all costs.
Mal
Yeah, but if you thinking you as somebody that that's what they're gonna do, you just don't need to be with them.
Damaris
Well, then if you think that they're.
Mal
Holding that, if you think that they're holding that for another time to throw that shit on the table like a draw four. It's like, why are you even in a relationship with this person if you think they're gonna use that against you in the future?
Damaris
Because I'm Attracted to women. That's my thing.
Mal
So you're saying all women are like, yeah, everyone. Okay, got it.
Damaris
They're all the same.
Mal
Got it.
Julian
Well, this conversation reminds me of that.
Mal
One time at bandcamp.
Julian
No, Of a recent study that I. I just read where I thought you.
Mal
About to say that you. You conducted. I was like, all right, now you conduct the service.
Damaris
Julian and Les on the weekends. Conducting studies would be hilarious.
Mal
Studies.
Julian
Well, I guess this will count towards research. I'll ask the room. Who in here, including you, Peach, who in here thinks that they are self aware? If you were to raise your hand. Damaris is raising her hand. Peach is raising his hand. Everyone's raising their head. So, okay, so just for the sake of it, I'll resume. So that's five out of five in the room is self aware. Well, this study says, although 95% of people say that they're self aware, scientifically only 10 to 15 people are actually self aware.
Damaris
Well, I told you I was a 5.
Mal
Only 10 to 15%.
Julian
Damn it. I forgot. I forgot to say the percent.
Mal
They only found 10 on the planet. They're self aware.
Damaris
The 10 out of 6 billion.
Mal
Yeah, 10 to 15 of people are self aware.
Julian
Yes.
Damaris
How do you. How did they conduct.
Julian
This is why I knew Rory was going to come in with data and research and all those things.
Damaris
No, I'm legitimately asked how they did complete opposite.
Mal
You may want to tell Rory that for a minute. There was a lot of fire behind that.
Damaris
Especially because I asked the opposite. Survey that came up.
Julian
Continue to read it. Says this disconnect is due.
Damaris
You're not selling very self aware right now.
Julian
Yeah, this disconnect is due to blind spots. The tendency to view ourselves. To view. Jesus. The tendency to view ourselves positively in social media's cult to self. So those are like the factors that kind of usually, you know, deterred someone to believe that they're self aware.
Mal
Oh, they must have con. They must have surveyed Jen's. Was she our generation?
Damaris
I'm a millennial.
Rory
Millennials.
Mal
What's the one right after you're a.
Damaris
Millennial too, right, Emma?
Rory
I think it's 80x.
Damaris
I think it starts at 81 millennials.
Mal
81.
Damaris
I think you're the first millennial.
Julian
Yeah, I think the new ones past Gen Z, the younger group, I think they're called Gen Alpha.
Mal
Yeah, there's nothing Alpha about that, General.
Julian
That's what I'm saying. I was like, they should be called, like, Gen Beta.
Damaris
Well, they're just starting at the top of the Alphabet now. So the next generation will be beta.
Julian
Oh, really? Is that the new. I didn't know they were going down that route.
Rory
Yeah, Ma was the first millennial. Like the first iPhones?
Mal
Yeah, I was.
Damaris
They had to get the money out.
Julian
He's millennial one.
Mal
I was the first.
Damaris
He didn't have FaceTime yet.
Julian
You know, Millennium Falcon. So there's two types of awareness. Self awareness, or meaning internal. And then there's external self awareness. Internal knowing your values and goals, and external understanding how others see you. To improve external self awareness, the study suggests finding a trusted colleague or getting honest feedback. So I guess, like, therapy would be a good thing.
Damaris
Yeah, but I think that's where like a lot of depression can derive from, is hyper self awareness. You start feeling bad about yourself because you know too much about yourself.
Julian
Yeah.
Rory
And self awareness is probably. Being self aware is probably the cause for most of my insecurities is being hyper self aware of everybody's like, face when I say something or like just everything really.
Damaris
He just saying that's why he doesn't smoke. Same. I get so paranoid. But to me, I don't know if that's like an accurate representation of what's going on. I think it just. Paranoia sets in. It doesn't make you more self aware. It just makes you more paranoid about what you think is happening, which isn't self awareness. Like, you're on the couch, fine. No one's really looking at you. It's not so it's not self aware. No one's judging you in the corner. They didn't even notice you. But I will now make Julian happy. How do they do this Test? They asked 10 people and that's how they got their percentage.
Mal
Same Same as Family Feud. That's the same people.
Damaris
The exact same people.
Mal
We. We asked 100 people.
Damaris
They went from the Family Feud focus group to the self aware focus group.
Mal
It was like a whole.
Damaris
They had a lunch break in between.
Julian
It was conducted by an organizational psychologist, but I don't know. Yeah, I'm not. I don't see, like, exactly how many people were pulled and how. And how can you. To your point, like, how do you quantify if someone is self aware or not?
Damaris
Yeah.
Julian
You know, like, what's the measuring factor? Just us raising our hands and it's like, all right, guess that. Okay, guess that's 100 in this room. But yeah, I mean, I guess I'll ask you guys, like, if you feel like. Because I feel I've been in situations and all of us have where you might see yourself in a situation and you think like you're reading the situation right, whether it's your relationship with someone or a job or whatever. And then usually for me at least a moment clicks or something happens and that triggers that. Like, oh, shit, I'm the one. Maybe not necessarily in the wrong, but like, oh, maybe I'm just like analyzing or understanding what's actually happening a little different than what it actually is going on. Like, how do you kind of rewire and reevaluate things even if you feel like you're right, you know what I mean? To kind of reset yourself to look at it?
Mal
I mean, I think it's. I think it's subject. It depends on what exactly it is that you're talking about or dealing with at the moment or who you're dealing with at the moment. I think it's different circumstances for different obviously situations. But one thing I think that I, speaking for myself, the myself awareness, that's. I think that's a lot of reason why I'm always by myself.
Damaris
Go on.
Mal
Because I know the type of person I am and I know that, you know, like, especially now with the world we live in now, people are hypersensitive and people have a real high victim mentality.
Damaris
Okay.
Mal
Like, there's a lot of people that walk around with victim mentality every day. I've never been one of those people. And I kind of feel left out. People like, yeah, nah, it's up because I'm like, I've never experienced that.
Damaris
All right, so why would you want to isolate yourself in that regard? Because you, like, I've never seen you be an to someone.
Mal
No, no, no.
Damaris
I'm not hypersensitive. You can't be around because you, you say that would offend people. Like, I, I don't think you're really like that.
Mal
No, no, no.
Damaris
Outside of like a few I don't takes and some trump stuff, I don't think you're really like an. To anyone.
Mal
No, no, no. I don't push. I don't push like asshole energy onto anybody. I don't. I'm not that type of person. But again, that comes. I think even that is part of being self aware is not pushing that onto people and not being that person. Like if you go to a room, like if you invite me to a party and I'm like, all right, cool. Cause you my guy, like, all right, I'll pull up. I'll know within the first 20 minutes, like, all right, this room is not really for Me, but this is my boy. I'm here to support him, but I'm out of here in, like 10 minutes. I think that's part of being self. Aware. You know who you are, you know yourself and you know where you mix and where you don't mix at.
Damaris
Yeah. I think that's like the first surface level of the self awareness, though, of, like, who you actually are as a person. I think doesn't just start with social situations in the rooms that you go in and out of. Because in that scenario, like, I would know when I wouldn't want to go to a spot that I might even enjoy because I'm in a mood where I feel, like, down and I'll be an. I will suck the life out of this room with my negative energy.
Mal
That's your bag, though. I know when you on that type.
Damaris
Of time, self awareness is knowing I feel that way and trying my best not to be around people at that time.
Mal
Yeah.
Damaris
Rather than, oh, I know. I would either like or dislike that event.
Mal
Like, when we were in London at that first event, the first night, like, I saw it, like, you had like, your meter, your self aware meter was like on 8. On 8%, and your social media was like, on 2%. I was like, all right, we have to get him out of here.
Damaris
Yeah, all right. But that had. There was a lot of factors into that one. I know after we went 45 minutes the wrong fucking way in the Uber, the meter started to go lower and lower and lower. Like, you could drop me off at the hotel. But see, that's like, we're passing the hotel. I'm cool.
Mal
That's the thing.
Damaris
Why I don't care to go.
Mal
Why does that drain you, though?
Damaris
Well, outside of jet lag and being tired, it was the first night also. It was something I already didn't want to go to. But similar. Similar to what you were saying, like, right there. All right, we're going.
Mal
Started off.
Damaris
You don't even want to promote. No.
Mal
Yeah.
Damaris
So you forcing yourself because when it comes to work and your career, sometimes you have to force yourself to go do things you don't want to do. In no way did I want to go to that fashion show or do a live podcast. I was exhausted. But it was. It was for the. For the show, man. Let's do it. Going 45 minutes in the other direction didn't help. And then when we got there, I was already pissed off. And then other things started to ensue, and I was like, see, this is why I say I'M gonna stay in the fucking hotel room.
Mal
Should have went with your first thought.
Damaris
But I didn't see. All right, maybe I'm not that self. Aware. I didn't realize that I was coming across that way. I was feeling it. Don't get me wrong.
Mal
It was.
Damaris
I thought I was. I was smiling, I was taking pictures.
Mal
You was feeling it and I was pause. And I, and I could see it. I was like, oh, yeah, nice. It's time to go. Like, he's. And the thing is, we felt the same way. Like we, we, we. We echoed each other's like, sentiments like your dog. Like, I mean, what are we doing? I just think that I handle it better than you.
Damaris
I think. What was the two or three categories, Julian?
Julian
Oh, what do you mean? Internal? Internal, Internal.
Damaris
Internal self awareness. I think I'm very high in how I come across. I think I lack self awareness.
Julian
Okay, that's good insight.
Damaris
There is. There is a lot of times where I probably don't realize I'm coming off. Like, how I'm coming off, because in my head I'm, I'm making sense in what I'm doing. Like, it makes sense in my head, so it's got to make sense.
Mal
Exactly. It's just that, again, I just, you know, I understand that now. It's. It's easy for people to have this, this victim mentality and this, this hypersensitive energy that people walk around with every day. It's like, I just can't. I'm. Nobody is. Why do people take things so personally these days? Like, everybody takes everything somebody says as a personal dig, a personal attack. And it's like, that person doesn't even know you.
Damaris
Well, this is going to sound a little fucked up and I'm probably going to word it wrong. Everyone in this generation feels like they're important. Everyone feels like their voice matters so much because they're able to post it anywhere they want, talk about anything they want, even if they have no background about it whatsoever. I. E. Podcasters, we all feel like we're very, very important. As my dad says, the moment they put the baby on board sticker on vans, that was the day humanity died. Because we made the baby more important than the adult. Like, no, you're just here to work. Everyone feels very, very important. And like they matter more than that. Feels like it's one of my favorite theories that my father has.
Mal
That's why I. With Jake, because he. From that cloth.
Damaris
I was born so I would go into the workforce.
Mal
Like, your dad feels like Babies shouldn't feel like they're more important than adults.
Damaris
That we put the babies on pedestals like they are the most important possible thing to the world now.
Julian
Jake was so against that, he left.
Mal
Yeah. The more I'm worried about, he makes sense. The more Jake, the more Jake moves make sense though. Like the older I get, I kind of understand where Jake was coming from.
Julian
Do you not think that that's him justifying his actions?
Damaris
I, I love that Bill Burbit when he's talking about his pops and then he's like, then I got a little older. I'm like, this guy's making some pretty good points he didn't do in a healthy way, but he's making solid points. They look weird to me at the time.
Mal
Yeah.
Damaris
But yeah, he explains it better, but that's his theory. Once, once that sticker added on there, like we all have to stop what we're doing for this kid that we don't know that's in the car. Like I have to change my life because there's someone else's kid. That has to be the most important thing on the highway. We never knew who the fuck was in anyone's car. You just drove.
Rory
Right, but that's so.
Damaris
So to answer your question, I think everyone has a bit of self importance. And I'm not saying you shouldn't feel good about yourself or think be honest with yourself.
Mal
Yes, some of y'all are not important and some of y'all opinions.
Rory
Oh my God.
Damaris
And that's where I think better victim mentality and where everything ask them if I'm right. Everyone is important. Don't get me wrong.
Mal
But everyone is not important.
Damaris
Not everyone's important in every single part of life.
Mal
I just drove past a few that ain't important today.
Rory
They're important to somebody and not them.
Mal
I saw, trust me, where they was at in life. That means they pissed like the last person off that was holding them down. That's a fact.
Damaris
Like everyone in every situation now feels like, well, what about me? Yeah, we're not talking about you. That's where I think the mentality comes now. And I, I don't think I probably in a self aware way worded that correctly. People are probably gonna think I'm an makes sense in my head. Everyone is very much self important. Yeah, self love is great. Be confident within yourself, but also understand that everyone else is going through their own problems. Like you're not above anyone else.
Mal
The one thing that I do find myself doing more the older I get is Observing and figuring out where or who people think I am in their movie in their head. Like in their. In there. Because, you know, every day we. You walk outside, people, you just. It's like you probably hear theme music in your head when you walking down the street. Everybody has their own movie that they're directing in their head.
Damaris
I've definitely had my AirPods in and did my, you know, music video. Walk to the Train.
Julian
Nothing hits better because you just got the haircut than getting out the barber chair, putting the AirPods in and having that like fresh cut out the shop walk. That's a good walk.
Mal
You start walking like you 10ft tall.
Julian
I had that last week. It was great.
Mal
Yeah.
Damaris
Start leaving. Chicks on red. They go crazy.
Mal
And then you walk past the bus stop and show your reflection and thought, what still Julian still is poor depressed soul. That guy still is poor depressed guy walking down orchard.
Damaris
Still never amount to what Black Magic was.
Mal
That's Black Magic's boy. That's Black Magic's boy right there.
Julian
Well, I wanted it. Speaking of people that aren't self aware, did you guys see Julia Fox released Julia crazy? Well, she. No, I'm saying, well, wow, that sounds like I was talking about her. I was saying, she went on and said that Kanye dating Kanye was her biggest regret and she felt like a pawn throughout their entire relationship.
Damaris
We felt that way.
Mal
Julia, let me explain something to you. We all knew that you were a pawn. How did you not know that?
Rory
Probably.
Damaris
Well, I was gonna.
Julian
The thing with this is like uncut jabs. Kanye being your biggest regret.
Damaris
Which But. And I don't want to. Which I am.
Rory
Uncut jam.
Damaris
What a 180. It went from her in that movie to like now she was addicted to heroin. Like a different.
Julian
The worst thing she was ever involved with.
Mal
Listen, she was a heroin addict.
Damaris
Yes, that was. That was like when George Bush said his worst moment in his presidency was Kanye west at a telethon.
Mal
Fuck.
Rory
9, 11.
Damaris
That interviewer was like, I can think of one day that was probably a little worse.
Mal
Probably stands out a little more than.
Julian
There's a famous photo for shooting. Yeah, this was like a big. There's like one of those ad things. That's her that looks like. I mean, I'm not trying to like drag her for a drug use, but she was like using at 17. I think she overdosed when she was 17. But to say that Kanye is worse than. Come on.
Mal
Worse than heroin?
Julian
I mean, crazy different kind of high because.
Rory
Well, I mean, at least heroin felt good.
Julian
Kanye, Connie No, I'm not even gonna say what I'm saying.
Rory
Yeah, I was gonna say Kanye felt good. That's crazy.
Julian
Not at all.
Mal
He was about to say that your vacation was great to start early. Must be like, yo, get out, Kanye. What?
Damaris
You shouldn't police what makes people feel good.
Mal
You're right about that.
Julian
But what do you guys think about this criticism?
Damaris
I mean, we've been. We've seen. Listen, Amber, I don't know.
Mal
We weren't in their relationship behind closed doors. We don't know what she went through with Kanye, what she had to deal with. So I can't. I'm not gonna on that. But it is. That is kind of crazy to say that Kanye is your biggest regret.
Julian
Yeah. Azalea Banks had a lot to say. So. Damaris, can you read that? I don't want to read that.
Damaris
You have to, girl.
Rory
You literally were contracted for this job through a celebrity madam in Miami. You knew you was there to be a comfort girl. Calling yourself a on is giving yourself way too much credit. You wasn't even on the chessboard, sis. Left the eight. Left myself. How long is this gonna ride? This? I ate chicken Alfredo with Kanye and he got me secondhand Birkin from the Real real brick and mortar store out.
Julian
That's a bar.
Rory
Flew to Los Angeles. Flew to Los Angeles and was flocking the streets looking for him while he was at Noble with Drake. Left my ass off. These white women are something else.
Damaris
He was at Noble with Drake. That's. That's the craziest part I took out.
Julian
Of that whole sentence at that era. When was this?
Damaris
They weren't cool with that.
Rory
Cecilia just be talking sometimes, y'all.
Damaris
Okay. But also, she'd be right. Sometimes she'd be right.
Rory
So. So does Jaguar, right?
Julian
Oh, my God.
Damaris
She kept broken clock. First of all, how does Azilian know this much about Julia Fox?
Rory
Kanye better learn his lesson about these white girls. They all have this fucked up sense of racist entitlement and foolishly think there's some special coveted thing to him because they are all white. Not understanding. Kanye got all the white in the world already. Then when their egos get bruised, they go trying to act like they're somehow above him and too good for him. Laugh my ass off. These acting like they. They wrote Jesus walks.
Damaris
Only rhyme fest can feel that way.
Rory
Wait, no, no, no, no. I gotta keep reading. Ailia's really good.
Julian
She goes off and.
Rory
Julia, you blew it by being a fame and interviewing about Kanye every five seconds. I told you to shut up and at least ride it out long enough for Kanye to get a new apartment where you ain't got sneaker boxes in the kitchen. But you. But you didn't listen, dummy. Kanye has kids. You have photos of yourself shooting heroin on the Internet. Little girls are impressionable. You're a liability. Julia, get the over it. Sneaker boxes in the kitchen is crazy.
Damaris
How impressionable are little girls? Like, come on. I've been a little boy and saw someone shoot heroin.
Julian
Oh, my God. This last one.
Rory
Like, imagine a dirty white with a needle on her arm and photos of her sucking them gay from Salem dicks having. I'm done. I'm done.
Julian
Having the nerve to try to posture like, she's above Kanye west. Lmfao. Piece of bird. Piece of bird.
Rory
She hates her. Somebody said, well, the more you know.
Julian
Well, didn't she? Wasn't there an exchange between the two of them in DMS or something? Like, they used to be cool together. Julia Fox and his yellow.
Damaris
I don't know.
Julian
I think that happened at some point.
Damaris
So you guys have to fill me out.
Julian
And then that turned.
Rory
Well, she did say, I told you to shut up. Like, basically, I told you to play a role.
Damaris
How paid is that madam that's giving Kanye west relationships? That's a different level of madam.
Mal
Why you say that?
Julian
You think Elaine's pulling those strings?
Damaris
She's. I mean, she's queen, you know, madams. Yeah, but like, for like ho shit, not relationships.
Mal
Yeah, that's ho shit.
Damaris
That's what relationships.
Mal
That's what Azalea is trying to say. Like, you was a whore.
Damaris
No, I know, but just like. But they were in, like a real relationship. Didn't they were married or something?
Rory
No, that was Bianca. They didn't get married.
Damaris
I can't keep up with these white chicks, man. Yeah, they all look the same to me.
Julian
Why doesn't Connie get killed for that?
Damaris
For what?
Julian
Just because he's so far out there no one cares. He only dates white women. No one's ever talks about that with Kanye.
Mal
I mean, I think at that point, it's nobody.
Julian
Is it because of he's so out there that it's like, whatever, he's getting pretty.
Damaris
He's been pretty self aware in his music about that. To the point that he's said, y'all would do anything for a Klondike. I'll do anything for a blonde dyke. Which is a wild bar in itself. And also, I don't think he knows the definition of dyke. There's a few times He. He's used dyke. And I was like, someone in the studio should tell Kanye what dyke means.
Rory
Or maybe he doesn't. It's a lot twist. But I think, I think it's cuz Kanye's so crazy that it's just kind of like let them white women deal with him child.
Damaris
Well, he did. I mean, before he got rich and famous, he was dating black women.
Rory
It just tends to be like that. Huh.
Damaris
Amber.
Rory
Amber what? Amber what?
Mal
Amber Rose.
Damaris
Amber what?
Mal
I mean, Verdian, right?
Damaris
Yeah, I don't know her. 23andMe. Is she white?
Julian
You said she's biracial.
Damaris
Well, I know she's Cape Verdean, which has a lot of like Portuguese, I think, ancestry.
Julian
Yep. That's what I am.
Damaris
Some of that shout out to CV's Love, Love Cave Verdians.
Rory
Same.
Damaris
But I don't. I wouldn't consider Cape Verdeans white. By no means. No, I wouldn't consider them white island in Africa. Well, there's whites in Africa. What am I talking about?
Mal
That part.
Damaris
Look at. Well, Elon Alien. Where's his birth certificate?
Rory
Alien is.
Damaris
So that's who I want to see. That's.
Julian
Yeah, I guess he looks white.
Damaris
She was black when she was with Kanye.
Mal
Yeah. So Travis Kelsey was black when he was.
Julian
Okay, I was gonna say Connie does a good job of making every white woman he's been with look black. He did it with Kim. He did.
Damaris
I suppose I'm not here to victim blame because I really don't know what happened between Julian Kanye and prayers to her and everyone involved. But I think there is some responsibility going into a relationship knowing somebody is mentally unstable and still dating them and then crying victim afterwards.
Mal
Well, I mean, again, we don't know.
Damaris
Which Kanye west and his doctors and everyone have told. Kanye himself has said I'm bipolar.
Mal
Yes, yes.
Damaris
This was well before he started dating this woman. I don't know how much of cry victim you can do when you go into a relationship knowing someone is completely unstable.
Mal
Yeah, you gotta expect some unstable to happen. Yeah, yeah, I get it.
Rory
Have you guys dated ever? Have you guys ever dated somebody who was bipolar? I have. It was a guy, but I have. It's not.
Damaris
Not fun.
Julian
What's that? And I know it varies per each case, but is there like a tell? You know what I mean? Like when they switch from one personality to the other.
Rory
Well, that's. I mean that's multiple personality.
Damaris
That's not like they start using like a different voice in another character. Yeah, it's a drastic mood shift and Sometimes those moods can be pretty crazy.
Mal
And they, like, you know, somebody's bipolar and choose to get in a relationship with them. You've done.
Damaris
Oh, I didn't know that they were bipolar.
Mal
Oh, you.
Damaris
I found out later into the relationship, they. They weren't aware.
Mal
Yeah.
Damaris
That's why I said, you should probably get checked out. That didn't go over well. That's like saying, yo, you're on your period. I took it to a whole nother level, like, yo, you should probably get checked out. Didn't go well, but I was right.
Mal
Yeah.
Damaris
And you. And what sucks is when you finally want to have you like I told you so moment. You can't do it in a doctor's office.
Mal
Why not?
Damaris
Not the time.
Mal
I feel like that's what the doctor's supposed to high five me. Like, I was right. I helped you.
Damaris
Thanks for bringing a customer.
Mal
Like I helped you. Like, I brought money to your pocket. It. No. No high five.
Julian
How'd that go with you, Damaris? How did you handle that?
Damaris
She left.
Rory
No, with. With. I didn't know at first. There were some scares in there and. I don't know. I. I don't know.
Mal
The marriage. Don't care about a nigga being bipolar.
Rory
It wasn't. I would never be with a bipolar man. It wasn't a man.
Mal
A woman. Oh, my God. That might be worse than being a bipolar man.
Rory
She was somebody who was aware of what she had going on, and she worked her hardest to deal with it in the correct way as far as medication, as far as therapy. So. Yeah, but it's not always easy.
Damaris
And I want to make it clear. Like, I'm not here saying bipolar people should not get in relationships or be loved or anything like that, but it should be something that you are aware of in the relationship or it's going to go wrong. Like, especially if you're going into it knowing they're bipolar. You should, as a partner, start taking the steps to prepare and work with them to be the healthiest option. I'm not saying they don't deserve love, because I know this could get flipped.
Mal
Yeah, I get it.
Julian
Sounds like that's your answer for the question I'm about to ask. But I'll ask Damaris and Mal. What's the biggest bomb someone dropped into, like, a relationship after you've already been talking? You're like, a dating or something. What's, like, the biggest. Oh, yeah, by the way, then they, like, say, I'm pregnant. Well, yeah.
Mal
Okay.
Julian
It's a good one.
Mal
I'M not mad at that one.
Julian
Classic.
Damaris
I think I win.
Mal
A girl. A girl told me one time. Cause I didn't understand why her and her. She hated her brother. Like, hated. And whenever I met him, I thought he was cool. I'm like, yo, like. But you could always tell, like, she did not fuck with her brother. And I'm like, it must be something he said, some shit or did some whack shit. And we had went to her house one day and then when we left, we was in the car and I was like. I said, yo, why like, you and your brother's relationship is so. Cause you know, I got sisters. So I'm like. And me and my sisters get like. You know, our relationships are great. Like, we love each other other. We crack jokes. We. It's like a fun relationship. And she just like blurted out, she was like, because my brother molested me. And I was like, oh, that sucks. I was like, damn. Like, I don't even know how to respond to that. Like, yeah, you know what I mean? Because it's like I. Whenever we're around me and like her brother, we hit it off, watch sports, that whole thing. So I'm like, yo, he seemed like, had conversations. Like, shit. He says, like, okay. He seemed to be level headed. He went to school. You know, he got a couple degrees. I'm like, okay. Not a no attractive guy. I can see girls liking him. I'm like, yo, why you and your brother don't have a little a better relate. And then she threw that on me and I was like, damn. Like, I don't even know. Like, should I go punch this nigga in his face? Like, should I? I don't know what to now. I definitely don't want to be around the family no more. Like, so it just. That to me was like the biggest like. And I could tell when she said it, she was happy she finally told me. Cause she could see how much me and her brother was like. I'm like, yo, I rock with him. Like, yo, he cool. Like, I fuck with your brother.
Damaris
Like, that's why a lot of people never say anything to exactly what you just said. It can make everything awkward and weird for the rest of your life. So that's why so many people, when it comes to family members doing that nasty shit, they just stay quiet because it's like, all right, this is gonna change everything forever. So I'll just be quiet and try to forget about it.
Mal
Yeah.
Damaris
And just move on. So, yeah, I feel why she didn't say anything. And that's also sometimes when I notice stuff and my partner won't outright just tell me what's going on, I leave it alone because clearly there's something there. And they'll tell me when they feel comfortable.
Rory
Yeah.
Damaris
Because if things aren't adding up, like, why would your family. This isn't that. And if you don't have a real answer at that time, I'll be like, all right, cool.
Mal
Yeah.
Damaris
Not gonna. Not even gonna ask about it unless you want to talk about it.
Mal
Yeah, that was. That was tough. But, I mean, I didn't. I think I handled it well. I was. You know, I was listening.
Damaris
That's crazy.
Mal
No, I wouldn't. I wouldn't say. See, that's. You think y'all. That's how y'all think. You think I get down like that? You think. You think a girl that I'm dating with you, probably.
Damaris
Everybody got problems.
Mal
I'm like, that's crazy. You want chick fil.
Damaris
A, like, yo, I hate this victim mentality shit.
Mal
Well, I do, but not in that case. Like, she was. That was valid. That was 1.1 million percent valid.
Damaris
It. I just think going into relationships, everyone should check people's medical charts.
Mal
Purses.
Damaris
Purses.
Julian
Okay.
Mal
When you go to the bathroom, make sure your watch is still there.
Damaris
But I know that kill. I know that kills the whole mood when you're talking to somebody, but. Yeah, like, do you have any weird, like, medical passion I should know about? Are you mentally stable? Have you been to a psychiatrist? Is there something I should know? Because a lot of people, which they shouldn't feel this way, but I get it. Maybe a bit embarrassed about some chemical imbalances they have, and it probably dated in the past, and people found out and ran the away, so they're reluctant to say certain things. Yeah, but I think that should be a conversation people should be able to have, especially if it's not just chemical imbalances. If it's herpes.
Mal
Is that your segue?
Julian
I tried sick, segue.
Damaris
Both. Sort of. A chemical imbalance.
Mal
Yeah. I don't really tie it in. I get it, but. No, I don't.
Damaris
What is herpes exactly?
Julian
A Gucci third leg. Definitely knows it's a virus.
Damaris
Can I start by saying I had never heard of Gucci third leg until this weekend?
Rory
Well, you're not.
Damaris
And I'm invested.
Mal
Now, why would you want to hear about somebody named.
Rory
You're not in the sex industry.
Mal
So he's in the sex industry? Yes, because I don't know. Sex.
Rory
Content creators.
Julian
He's got only fans.
Mal
Oh, so he's an only fans content creator. He has sex on only fans? Yes. Okay.
Damaris
Content creator. Professional content creator. From my understanding.
Mal
What is a professional content creator?
Julian
He makes money off it.
Damaris
Yeah, from my understanding, he's leading the industry. I mean he's got Gucci and a third leg.
Rory
He said he had over 5,000 body. He slept with over 5,000 women.
Mal
Nice.
Rory
And he said that ain't a lot because like his ex told him like she slept with over 2,000.
Julian
So when you put it like that.
Mal
It was the Splash brothers.
Damaris
So over this past, the Rash brothers, I'm glad we didn't talk about this on Tuesday because more, more information is developed. But to give a backstory for those that don't know and trust me, if you don't know now you know, you should be happy.
Julian
You're about to know.
Mal
You're about to know.
Damaris
Over the weekend, this 19 year old woman went on her TikTok, clearly upset, crying. She said, six months ago I collabed because that's what it's called. It's not called fucking, it's called collabing. She collabed with Gucci third leg.
Mal
Okay.
Damaris
On an OnlyFans piece of content, which I get is verse swaps, like feature for a feature.
Mal
Right.
Damaris
On OnlyFans interview for an interview.
Mal
Yeah, we've done it, We've collabed.
Damaris
She then found out after the collab that she had contracted HSV2, which is general herpes. Six months later she came on TikTok and said she wishes she didn't hold that information back, but she was scared and embarrassed. But he just continued on to a bunch of women for six months. And she started to feel guilty. Everyone should know that he has HSV2. And which he then replied, well, let me go on Aiden Ross to clear up these rumors. Yeah, like anyone would. From Trump to Gucci, third leg.
Julian
And before I play it, the Danae Davis was the, the woman that he shot with and I guess that day they shot for. They shot four scenes that day. So they throughout the entire day creating content swag. And this was his pulling up his test results.
Damaris
What's.
Mal
What are you positive for? What is that? Can you read that? It says you're positive for HSV1. Yes. So what is that? Can you explain what that means? So positive for HSB1 means you have had probably like a cool sore, more so stuff like this. And this is very common in the whole world, right? Two or three people in the world have HSV1. Let me look it.
Damaris
Let me just look it up.
Mal
So I. Most adult stars, they do not test for HSV1. And in the situation, I understand she is a victim, but I'm sorry, Danae Davis is not my victim. Also, to kind of backtrack.
Damaris
A pause. Where do we start? First of all, the sentence of saying I have HSV1, I don't have herpes, is kind of a contradiction in itself, as Damaris said earlier. What do you think the H in HSV stands for? And also, she's a victim. She's not my victim is also an insane sentence to say in this situation. Why word that differently?
Mal
I mean, she's a victim.
Damaris
She's not one of my victims.
Mal
I mean, that's like. What's wrong with saying that, though? Like, he's.
Damaris
That's implying you have victims.
Mal
No, it's not. He's. He's.
Damaris
I know he misspoke there, but what.
Mal
I took from it was saying, like. I'm not saying that, you know, yes, she. She contracted this disease.
Damaris
Yeah.
Mal
But I'm not the one that gave it to her. That's what I took from that.
Damaris
I know he misspoke.
Mal
I'm not trying to say she's lying about anything, but it's not me. That's what I took from that.
Damaris
I saw a lot of people online because, you know, Twitter will become a lawyer, a doctor, everything, when these types of things happen. But a lot of people on Twitter, which I believe is completely true. There's only a real certain way with blood work to definitely be cleared of or test positive for herpes. If you don't have a breakout, I think you have to request a certain type of blood work.
Rory
A blood. Yeah, a certain type of blood test. And on top of that, those blood tests often have false positives.
Damaris
Yeah.
Rory
So.
Damaris
So he very much could have HSV2. It just showed up as a false positive.
Mal
And.
Damaris
But again, we don't know.
Rory
And. And on top of that, you can. So what people don't understand, and this is why people really need to pay attention in sex ed. You can. So HSV1 and HSV2 are just two different types of the virus. HSV1 usually shows up on the mouth, but there are rare or not so rare instances where if you are giving head to someone and you have HSV1, that HSV1 can be passed on to their genitals. So, no, it won't show up as HSV2 because that's not the strand of the virus that you have, but it is still Considered genital herpes. It's because it's. It's a cold sore that you now have on your genitals. It can be transferred that way. So him Saying I have HSV1 doesn't mean anything because you could have HSV1 and it's just on your penis. And you also had sex with this woman with an open sore. They're both absolutely, astronomically insane. Like you can see in their footage like the. It's right there. I can see it through a phone screen. So putting your tongue on it was wild.
Damaris
But yeah, especially after like 4 scenes I feel like.
Rory
Yeah.
Damaris
Start to.
Julian
On this on the stream with Aiden, he also explained that he. It wasn't open sore. It was a cut because he shaves his penis.
Rory
I know some men who do that.
Julian
But the cut was like the. The cut was like in the upper third of his dick.
Damaris
Yeah.
Mal
I just have so many questions.
Damaris
A hairy dick.
Mal
How did you attain this information?
Julian
Research.
Damaris
Got it when he was collecting data in the Lower east side of it.
Julian
I was going to say if he said conducting studies. If the cut was located lower, like towards the base, I would shoot him, Bailey. Because yeah, hair can kind of do his thing. Hair doesn't grow up off the tip of your dick.
Mal
Yeah.
Julian
That's stupid.
Mal
Just.
Julian
You're lying. You're just lying. Like that's why I wanted to make sure I could confidently say he's full of.
Damaris
I did always think about that with only.
Mal
But what if he was trying to like trim his hair while he was like, while I was soft.
Damaris
He got distracted.
Mal
Yeah. Closer to the base, right? No, no, no, no.
Damaris
I mean if it's not the third leg, that's a soft knot.
Mal
First of all, don't ever look me in my eyes and say not the third leg.
Damaris
My bad Gucci third leg. Is that better?
Mal
No, it's not. Just stop looking at me saying third leg.
Julian
But it's Gucci.
Mal
I just don't understand people, man.
Damaris
Yo, once only fans like started, it was just girls like touching their and being naked then shifted to like full blown. And porn definitely crossed my mind of how they were doing STD checks because. Because from my understanding, like with the real porn, you have to come in with your results like every single time before a scene for everything.
Mal
I think the week of your shoot.
Damaris
And this is all, you know, gorilla style. This is, you know, back, back to the old days of just, you know, we try and get this done. Like it's how hip hop started shooting and clapping. That's all yeah, you know, this is the mixtape days. Like we. We recording in the bathroom type of thing.
Julian
We'll figure it all out later.
Damaris
We're just trying to get a record.
Mal
We're not there. We're not there yet.
Julian
We'll do the paperwork after the record passes.
Damaris
This, this was havoc. Making the shook one's drums with the stove like, and actually cocking real guns into the microphone. Like that's what this.
Mal
We don't have those plugins yet, but.
Damaris
So you know, something gave me a hunch that nobody was really asking for. For test results.
Mal
Yeah.
Damaris
In these guerrilla style only fan shit. And these people collab, but they also civilians.
Mal
Yeah.
Damaris
So if this guy has actually fucked 5,000 people.
Julian
3,000, by the way. It was. That was. Yeah, yeah.
Damaris
That's still crazy. You have to think of what that family tree of 3,000 people.
Julian
There's lists of going around of other women, other content creators that he shot with that are kind of floating around the Internet. So obviously the only. The woman. Woman spoke out. But now, like, obviously he has like a treasure trove of content. So now people are just kind of, you know, throwing herpes on every single person that he's collabed with, which they shouldn't do.
Damaris
Yeah, that's crazy. But I mean, if you think about, I don't know Gucci third leg whatsoever, nor do I know any of the women that he said.
Mal
I never. I never actually one of them.
Damaris
I know I never.
Mal
Yeah. I never once thought that you knew Gucci.
Damaris
I just want to make that clear. I know the, the fans were waiting for this episode for me to address the rumors of if I knew Gucci third leg. I do not know the gentleman.
Julian
Oh, ew.
Mal
Sorry.
Damaris
But if he's fucked 3,000 people, that's in Atlanta. Right. I just assume Gucci third leg is from Atlanta. I'm just, I'm gonna guess.
Rory
Wouldn't be surprised.
Damaris
There's no way his family tree has not touched your family tree.
Rory
Who family tree?
Damaris
I think it's impossible. I'm not saying everyone is herpes. I'm just saying if he. 3,000 people in the metro Atlanta area. Somehow you have a third or fourth cousin that has been involved in that whole mix. 3,000 bodies.
Mal
Yeah.
Julian
Damn.
Damaris
This girl got 3,000 people in their family trees. He's like, you guys don't think anyone in this room has touched that hole.
Mal
Yeah, he was like the. He's like the. He's like the Genghis Khan of like, only fans.
Damaris
It's, it's, it's the third leg of separation.
Mal
Yo, fan, you keep looking at me.
Julian
Saying, that's a good title.
Mal
That's not a good title.
Julian
That's a really good third.
Damaris
He's gonna be in the artwork. You're gonna be the third. You're gonna be Gucci third leg.
Mal
No, I'm not. It'll be not even close.
Damaris
I think. Louis, as much as we're joking, this should be a big wake up awareness call for everyone that somebody has 3, 000 bodies. Like, no one's exempt. I don't care if you're a virgin. And once everyone's everyone, so you got to be. Our circles are not that big. Like, this isn't a sex worker thing. This isn't. This is just in general. It's nasty out there.
Mal
It's disgusting.
Julian
Let's play. This was the clip of him speaking on how many women he's had.
Mal
The count was like 3, 3000 and 100. But I was really. I didn't feel too bad about it because my ex chick dominant body had like 2,000 or whatever, but so it was like when I was dealing with my chicken, she couldn't really be like, oh, your body counts too much. Because her body count like 2,000. My body count like 3,000. So it's like, damn. Like, I ain't feel too, too bad about it, honestly. Which generation is he from? Is he a millennial?
Damaris
That's not alpha right there.
Mal
Alpha wife and a girl that got 2, 000 bodies is crazy.
Damaris
But porn said. But porn people, wife, other porn people. Like, that's not uncommon. Yeah, that in that profession, that's, like, kind of preferred, I think. Think sex workers do that.
Mal
His ex girl is a sex worker.
Damaris
I mean, for 2,000 bodies, I would.
Mal
Who's.
Damaris
I would hope. I don't know the name.
Julian
Oh, you know how they say to people, like, to perfect your craft, you got to put in 10,000 hours for maybe for them, it's, you got 10,000 bodies.
Damaris
I was watching the interview when Tiana Trump was talking about when she. Bill Maher, like, it's out.
Mal
Wait, who? Oh, it's out there. I think that Tiana Taylor. I would have say, wait, what? Because we were talking about Tiana.
Damaris
There's not a podcast where Tiana Taylor talks about Bill.
Mal
That's why I was like, what? Like, what is happening? And how am I missing all of this?
Damaris
But she's discussing that whole thing. But she said her boyfriend dropped her off at the house and waited outside. Like, that's a regular thing with Insex.
Mal
Work her boyfriend did what?
Damaris
Drove her to Bill Maher's house, dropped her off and waited outside until she was done.
Julian
Mall thoughts on that?
Mal
Yeah, Just call Better help, man. That's all I got to say, man. You.
Damaris
She's in the porn industry. I don't. I don't think that that's. That wasn't crazy.
Mal
Yeah.
Damaris
She wasn't like talking to Bill Maher. He paid.
Mal
Yeah, but it's.
Julian
Didn't go there for. Was it the hard questions? What is the final thoughts? Final thoughts.
Mal
I get it. But I guess I'm more so on the side.
Damaris
He definitely talked her ear off though.
Mal
If I'm in the. If I'm in the porn industry and I have a girlfriend and she's in a porn industry, I would just think that. That we. We're both only shooting with each other right now while we're together. Am I crazy for thinking that?
Damaris
Yes, because you're also not going into their mind state where they don't view sex the way you view sex.
Mal
Yeah, but I just don't know if.
Damaris
Just because they get in a.
Mal
Drop you off to Bill Maher's house while he thrashes you all over his thrash. And I'm sitting outside Big Bill. I'm sitting outside on World Star waiting for you to come back outside. Like, what am I doing?
Damaris
That's how you wouldn't read a book.
Mal
What am I doing while my girl is upstairs getting thrashed by Bill Maher?
Damaris
You know they have those like ch forge you could attach to your steering wheel. Maybe he was just playing some chess.
Mal
Okay. Playing chess in the car, on the steering wheel while your girl is upstairs getting thrashed. Where are you at in life? Like, how did you get that to that level?
Damaris
I think you're being a bit judgy. If they were.
Mal
I am.
Damaris
If they were civilians, yes, I would find that a bit odd. But in that industry. I don't think it's as crazy as you think it is.
Mal
Yeah, but I'm just saying they view.
Damaris
That way differently than we view it because it's their industry.
Mal
I get it. I would just say if I was in that industry and I have a girlfriend now and she's in that industry. We're only shooting with each other from now on.
Damaris
I just think that that's how y'all gonna eat.
Rory
You go to Adam 22 route.
Mal
No. Cuz he still lets other men.
Rory
Oh yeah, I forgot about black.
Damaris
He does reality shows.
Julian
That was one time though.
Damaris
He did a reality show.
Mal
They do it. They Do a show together where they end of talk with porn stars and then.
Julian
Yeah, but it's just women.
Mal
No, it's not.
Damaris
Oh, that was since that whole big thing with that guy.
Julian
Oh, they let it happen.
Damaris
He did a reality show with his staff half to his girl. And then after that they did it another letting your.
Mal
He just told Aiden.
Rory
Y'all lame. I'm going over there to no jumper. Yeah, y'all ain't never let me.
Damaris
None of y'all just say you want to Adam22.
Mal
Yeah, that's part of.
Rory
I said that. See that gaslighting. I said that.
Mal
That's part of the job though. It is.
Damaris
You think sharp is more her type? Nah, Brick baby. Definitely her type.
Rory
Who the is Brick baby?
Julian
How do you know these people? Sorry.
Damaris
Fine Printmax.
Rory
Who's free?
Mal
The guy five crab. You know five.
Rory
The one that you guys did the interview wasn't too bad looking. What was his name?
Julian
He's no longer there. Oh, this is who Roy was trying to put on you.
Mal
Free the guy Free Crip Mac.
Rory
He could probably. Sure he looked like he could. Never mind.
Damaris
Never mind.
Mal
Never mind by Crip. Yeah.
Rory
Treat the clit like a pinball.
Damaris
He going pour. He going to pour oe on that.
Mal
Treat the clit like a pinball. What he look like?
Rory
He go crazy.
Damaris
I'm just saying he gonna scream 55 while he.
Mal
55.
Damaris
Oh, five the guy, man.
Mal
Three to God. Crip Mack, man.
Rory
Oh, he's in jail.
Damaris
Yeah.
Rory
What did he.
Damaris
I think he got caught.
Mal
Just look at him. Just. Just guess. Guess what Matt got in trouble for? He cripping. He ain't playing. That's real cripping right there.
Rory
You crazy.
Mal
Yeah. You don't know.
Damaris
See, that's they got the right guy.
Mal
He not. He not telling us to win no free. He know he did it.
Julian
Two arrests for being a felon in possession of a firearm and attempted second degree armed robbery, grand theft and transportation of a controlled subs.
Mal
No.
Rory
So he did everything.
Mal
Listen, that's real cripping going on.
Julian
Like he not placing 15 years.
Mal
Years.
Rory
Oh damn.
Damaris
Yeah, for sure.
Mal
Let Crip Mac come home. I like and be a star. He's a star.
Damaris
And I felt. I felt for him because I feel like his was just taking off.
Mal
Yeah.
Damaris
When this whole thing happened.
Mal
But yeah, that's when it happens, man. When you got one foot in the game, one foot out.
Damaris
It's like he had two feet. He was double Dutching with two feet.
Mal
He was 20 toes on 55th Street. He was 20 toes in the game for sure. You've got mail.
Damaris
Do we have voicemails?
Julian
We do. Again, quick reminder, all tiers of Patreon have access to the voicemails. It's pinned on our Patreon. So if you want to leave one or have a follow up to make, please go to our Patreon. It is on the page. Let's get into it.
Mal
Yo. So I work with this girl, right? And first of all I'm all about self love and like that and treating yourself and things of that nature.
Damaris
So is on the way she, she.
Mal
Kind of takes it to a different level a few times. I've been working with her for about a year now. A few times throughout that year she'll just randomly send flowers to herself and like other gifts to herself. Like she'll send them to herself at work and shit. It is, Is that mental illness? Yeah. Or am I tripping? Is that, that a normal form of self love or am I tripping? No, you're not tripping, sir. That young lady is crazy.
Damaris
Hold on, is she, is she pretending to like, is she getting surprised at work? Like who are these from?
Mal
Yeah.
Julian
Did she write herself a note if that's the case?
Damaris
Yes. Mental illness for sure.
Mal
Said guess from who?
Damaris
Like if she's looking at her co workers like oh my gosh, I have a secret admirer. She's doing that, that 100% writing secret.
Mal
Admirer on a card that you ordered to yourself. It's mental illness, bro.
Damaris
He's so romantic. Like mental illness for sure.
Mal
Yeah.
Damaris
But if she's just ordering herself flowers to have flowers, fresh flowers at work, then she's not mentally ill. Well then that would make me mentally ill too.
Mal
Yeah.
Damaris
I send myself, there's like services. I like flowers in the house. So I've done like monthly services.
Mal
That's different. Different. That's different.
Damaris
But we don't know if she's pretending that they're coming from someone else or is she just ordering herself monthly flowers.
Rory
Well, I would assume that I would assum that she's not because he's, he didn't bring it up. Like this is crazy, like making up scenarios. He said how much love is too much self love? And he said that she's sending them to herself. Like if she wasn't sending them to herself, he wouldn't know that. So he just works with her. So I think it's well known that she's sending them to herself. I don't think that there's anything wrong with that. It's a little.
Mal
Yeah. She's.
Damaris
And this isn't the self important I was talking about earlier, that's fine. If you want to send yourself flowers at work, and especially in those dull ass offices, you want some nature around you, send yourself some flowers. No, again, if she's telling him in the cubicle, like, yo, I can't keep these, these dudes off me. They keep sending flowers. Yeah, that girl is mentally ill. But no, what's wrong with sending yourself flowers?
Mal
No, it's nothing wrong with sending yourself flowers. If that. If you're sending it to yourself and you know that. You know these are for me, I've ordered them. But if you're pretending like you said, like, they just keep popping up at your job with flowers for you, you. I mean, just, you know, if she gets mad and she storms out of the office, I think that's your cue to leave too. I think you should leave right after her. That's all I'm saying.
Julian
Because I'm trying to think in my mind. This is no different than say, someone that's like, okay, every Friday I get a massage. It's like, it's just treating yourself like that's how I'm viewing it.
Mal
Every Friday is massage flowers.
Damaris
There's nothing wrong with that.
Mal
I'm not wrong with that.
Damaris
I mean, it's an expensive habit. Flowers aren't cheap, especially the delivery. But I mean, if you got it, why not? I don't think there's anything wrong with that. I think he's weird for thinking that it's odd that a girl wants flowers at her desk.
Mal
Yeah, I don't think that's what it is. I think she's ordering them and then pretending like they're being sent from somebody she doesn't know again. Yeah, she's acting surprised. It's crazy. Acting surprised when they're emailing you saying that they're on the way.
Julian
What can.
Mal
What, you could track the order.
Julian
I'm trying to think like, what, he's outside.
Damaris
Yo, the receptionist comes, you have another one.
Mal
Another one from guess who yourself.
Rory
Guess who?
Mal
Your card is on file.
Rory
No, but. No, I could see my. I don't like buying stuff like that for myself, but I can see like, you know, setting that like up every month so that every month, like I receive followers and it's like, oh, it's a nice surprise. Not surprise, but like, it's a nice gift from. For myself. Like, like I don't see anything wrong with that. I think that's nice. Somebody got to do it. You supposed to wait For a man to do it.
Mal
Yeah, I buy flowers for myself too. I just bought like three O's last week. Some fire of that flower. Oh, man, that flower power was.
Damaris
But see, what's the difference?
Julian
That's self love buying.
Mal
I'm mad at it, but I'm not. I'm also not acting surprised.
Damaris
Buying weed.
Mal
I'm not.
Damaris
Oh, he's so out of touch with the culture, man.
Julian
Julian, I thought you were saying flowers like women.
Mal
No, women are flowers.
Julian
Yeah, that's what I thought he was saying.
Damaris
You think Maul bought three women last week?
Julian
He could.
Mal
I could. But you think I did. Like, that's who we asked. You think I did.
Rory
I could.
Damaris
You know the same madam that Julia Fox was under?
Mal
Yeah. Do I? I don't know if I know that lady, but probably do. It wouldn't surprise me. Found out one of my homegirls.
Damaris
Three leg separations.
Mal
Found out one of my homegirls was the madam. That shit fucked me up.
Rory
Shit.
Mal
Did it?
Damaris
Or did you start to realize, ah, it makes sense.
Mal
No, it. It fucked me up. Cause I didn't recognize it like, before.
Damaris
She told me, but then it made sense.
Mal
Yeah, I was like, oh, I thought y'all was. I thought y'all was just like taking vacations in.
Damaris
Yeah, yeah.
Julian
So let me get this. The madam doesn't put out. They just recruit women or how does that work?
Mal
She's like the gym. The madam will sleep with. With a guy, depending on who he is and, like, his status.
Damaris
But she's like a female.
Mal
Like, if he owns the yacht, she'd probably sleep with him. Mm.
Julian
She's top dog.
Mal
Yeah. Yeah.
Damaris
Like the celebrity's team will know where the madams are at, reach out to them, and then she'll pass the roster off so he can go through the book and pick which ones. It's like a brochure he wants. Yeah. GM is probably the best way to put it.
Mal
Yeah.
Julian
Gotcha.
Damaris
Which one she's going to put on the trading block that night?
Mal
You know, instead of general manager. General madam. You know how to go. You've seen a few.
Damaris
I feel like madams would be way better to deal with than pimp games. Just the overall better experience. I think business will go better.
Mal
No, I know one madam that don't play. She'll slap the out One of them. Yeah, she don't play. You missed that flight and she told him it was four girls coming and only one. And only three show up.
Damaris
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Mal
She for show slapping the out you.
Damaris
That's Coming out her pay cut.
Mal
Yeah, sure. Yeah.
Rory
I feel like I would be a good madam if it was legal.
Damaris
I feel like if you're. If you're a. And you miss your flight, like you should retire. You don't have to do much. All you had to do, all you had to do was make your flight to Turks.
Mal
Yeah.
Damaris
Like you couldn't do any other job at that point. You have no admin skills whatsoever. You missed your flight to Turks to go tan and get fucked.
Mal
And it was. And it was a late flight. It was like 7pm you know how.
Damaris
Early I would be to a flight to Turks? If I got free steak, I'd be.
Mal
The day before free steak.
Damaris
Like if every meal was paid for at the resort, I would be there. I'd be at JFK the day before.
Julian
Rory and Gucci, third leg.
Damaris
Like, I feel like a lot of. And I'm not even saying the actual working escorts. Women in general, I think are spoiled and take for granted those trips. Like that's some regular. Can you imagine if somebody flew you out all expenses paid to a resort for you to just relax?
Mal
No, you ain't just so.
Damaris
I would be so grateful you getting thrashed.
Mal
But sex is cool, I'm about to say.
Damaris
I mean, is that not. It's consensual. Like that's not enjoyable.
Rory
Okay. Okay.
Mal
But it depends on who is with.
Rory
That's what I'm about to say. Like there they're. It ain't like they going off what their own wants and needs are. It's not like they're going to be pleased. They're going to be somebody tell that.
Damaris
To the guy that's working 80 hours in a m shaft. Like her job is. Okay.
Rory
Have you ever been an ass?
Damaris
No.
Rory
Okay.
Mal
That's just a crazy.
Julian
Yeah, but like the girl doesn't get the ass if. If I'm a madam.
Mal
That's just crazy to throw at a man.
Julian
But if I'm.
Mal
You haven't been ass.
Julian
If I'm a madam and I know my roster.
Damaris
I liked getting in the. And then also. Also had a full resort, all expenses paid, first class trip. That. That's a job.
Julian
Thank you.
Mal
Yeah, but then you're taking for granted everything but you factoring you. You see what you're doing is you're banking on everything being like, great. What if you get there and it's like this hideous investment banker from China that doesn't smell good, his breath stinks and he's all over you, he's trying to like kiss you in your mouth and like, you're not gonna. That's not enjoyable for you as a woman.
Damaris
Sometimes you have to work a holiday. Sometimes you gotta work a double when want to. It's not somebody. Like, in every profession, there's always days you don't want to work. And I was not the most.
Mal
Three shifts in the stock room on Christmas before I fly out. Okay? Some hideous, unattractive woman with bad breath and a stink butt try to sit on my face because she owns a yacht.
Damaris
Okay, this is gonna sound.
Rory
This.
Damaris
This is gonna sound. I'm not talking about those that are getting shitted on by Saudi billionaires. They're earning their keep. I have respect for those women. That's a day's work. She came home with calluses and dirt on her hands. She was shitted on. She got all. She deserves, every dollar. I'm talking about the women, and it's gonna sound kind of gay that are flown out by these amazing NBA players. Like, is that that bad of a fucking job to go fuck an NBA player and be in Turks for the week?
Julian
You're talking about the same crop of women. By the way, the women that got shit in Dubai are some of the people that walk the Victoria's Secret one way.
Damaris
Okay? So those are their half days, and Dubai is their full days.
Mal
Fathers, hug your daughters, man.
Damaris
I agree.
Mal
Just hug them and hold on to them tight, man. Just hug them and hold on to them tight.
Damaris
What was the question?
Mal
Yes, she does have a mental illness. Yes, that girl is crazy.
Rory
She does not have a mental illness.
Damaris
All right. Buy yourself some flowers so you don't have to get shitted on in Dubai.
Mal
Yeah, I think you should buy yourself flowers. And when she gets hers, you kind of look at her like, me, too, too. Somebody loved me. Now you got a flower war at work.
Julian
Flower war.
Damaris
It's like bottle wars.
Mal
Yeah. Like, I get flowers, too. No. Why not?
Damaris
I don't know if it works that way.
Mal
Yeah, that.
Damaris
I don't know if the. The fellas are.
Mal
We need our flowers. Men need flowers, too.
Damaris
I agree.
Mal
Yeah.
Damaris
Buys me flowers. I like what she does.
Rory
I bought a man flowers. To be fair, I was in a relationship, and he bought me flowers every week. I always have flowers, so I always felt like men didn't get, like, enough flowers, so I bought him flowers. Granted, I bought him stuff all the time.
Mal
What kind of flowers?
Julian
Crabgrass.
Mal
Crabgrass. Showing up with crab grass in a vase is crazy.
Damaris
But you pulled out of the. You know what? Pull it out. It's like dirt Still, Damaris had dirt up on.
Mal
This is for you. She dropped it like this.
Damaris
You can make it grow. It's another project for you now.
Mal
What kind of flowers you got?
Damaris
Here's some more shit you can do for me.
Julian
Here's something you can work on.
Damaris
Why is all women's gifts some more shit I have to do work?
Mal
Yeah. Gift is work for us.
Rory
I always felt like that, like when my mom would like buy like a grill for my dad. Like you buying for him to cook.
Julian
Go pick up a propane tank.
Damaris
Thank you for this chore that I now have.
Mal
Yeah. A girl bought me a supreme drill set. I said, just cause it's supreme, you think that I'm not drilling up these fucking drapes. Get out of here.
Rory
That's fine. No, that's fine. That's fire. But I feel like all men.
Damaris
I'm sure you have it on display now though.
Mal
It's under the sink.
Rory
I feel like all men should have a nice drill set, but Supreme.
Damaris
I got mine.
Rory
You said what?
Damaris
I got mine at Lowe's. Yeah, it works. I don't want the supreme drill set.
Mal
She got her some stock eggs. Why you shop shaming?
Rory
I got him. I got him roses and sunflowers. I think. I know it was roses. And I think there were like two sunflowers in there. And he left. He was like, oh, thank you. But like you could bought me this, this, this, this and that. And I'm like.
Mal
He said, you could have bought me a stripper. Or you a bring your cute girl with the fat ass in here.
Julian
Jesus.
Mal
These sunflowers.
Julian
Where is sunflower?
Mal
Where is sunflowers?
Damaris
You could have gave me head and. And just been quiet for the afternoon.
Mal
Yeah, that's. That's better than flowers for me. Suck me and shut up Dot com.
Rory
Do we have another.
Mal
We have another voicemail at Gmail.
Damaris
That's your only fan. Slash you suck me in sh.
Julian
Here we go.
Caller
What's up, Rory? What's up, Ma? My name is. We're going to call me K. I'm calling from the Bay Area. One of your older bay.
Damaris
I think, bae.
Julian
Yeah, sure.
Caller
Listeners a little bit older than Ma. Very young at heart though. So the situation I'm calling about is the person I've been dealing with for a very long time, me that person. We're not official. We're cool with that. But he's had some friends who. Who don't know that I'm dealing with him that have tried to get at me and I've shut it down. Point blank, period. The problem is I didn't go back and tell him immediately about the situations. So one particular situation, he found out on his own. Another situation, I told him later on down the line with both situations, he was very upset at me because he felt like I should have told him off rip about what happened and that he felt like, you know, with situations like that, he feels like he can't trust me if I'm not telling him right away. I get his logic partially. But I also feel like me not telling him was to protect his friendship. And I feel like I should get some type of credit because I didn't entertain the situations. So I just want better clarification or better understanding from you guys. How am I wrong in this? All right, thank.
Damaris
Thank you.
Caller
Bye.
Mal
Well, thank you for that call. First of all, I think it's. You're wrong because while I grant it, you're not official, because I think that's her sticking point. They were not official. So does she owe him that to tell him that if, you know, they're not a couple officially, but you would be upset if the roles were reversed and one of your homegirls was trying to talk to him and he didn't tell you about it and you found out however you found out. So that's how you can. It's that simple. If the roles were reversed, you would feel some type of way. If one of your homegirls tried to talk to him and he didn't tell you that you got bitches in my face smiling, I look stupid. It would have been all of that. So, yes, you're wrong for not telling them. And just cause you're not official doesn't mean you don't owe the person honesty. And to be forthcoming with information like that, just because you're not a cup.
Damaris
I have a bunch of questions, but I see Damaris, like Mayweather on the ropes bobbing and weaving over there during that whole entire exchange.
Rory
No Mo. I mean, I get Ma's point. I think her intentions are what's important though. Because like, sometimes it's like, yeah, I'd be mad about this and I'd feel some type of way, but it doesn't mean that your intentions were bad. Her intention. I don't think her intentions were bad. I think her intentions were. Okay, nobody really knows this and this might cause a rift in their friendship. I don't want him acting funny towards his friend. I shut it down. There's really nothing to know, so I'm gonna be quiet. If you that overprotective of a girl, then you need to let your homies know that she off limits.
Damaris
All right, first of all. First of all, first of all, if you have to take the Damaris role in this, I thought you were gonna go a whole different route. His homeboys was comfortable hitting you up.
Rory
Because that's what I said.
Damaris
He told them you were a slide.
Mal
No, see, bro, you always go, how you know that, man? Told them dudes that. That don't mean that they don't know that she's in a relationship.
Damaris
Relationship.
Mal
I don't know that they're in the relationship.
Damaris
Been very vocal that I'm not one of those people. I've. I've had friends that have even asked me, like, yo, what's up? It's cool. Whatever. I don't like to do that type of. But I'm not gonna pretend like, that's not a common thing.
Rory
Yes.
Damaris
If those are his actual.
Mal
That to me. Don't do that. Don't do that. I'm not gonna let you get that off. You told me to stop leaving money bags under somebody's picture.
Damaris
That was my ex girlfriend.
Rory
You still be leaving them too? I just was on her picture the other day.
Damaris
Do I. I'll be forgetting who's in the wrong here.
Mal
I'll be forgetting.
Damaris
I also did jokingly say that I.
Mal
Really don't give a.
Damaris
So we're gonna assume. Let's just assume for this, the sake of this conversation, that him and his friends are actually real friends. Right.
Rory
Okay.
Damaris
If that's your real friends, they are not hitting on the girl you're talking to. Unless y'all have had a conversation of yo, I just. That's for the team. Like, do what you want.
Mal
No, no. But if they don't know that they're dating.
Julian
Exactly.
Mal
They don't know that they're dating.
Julian
Yes.
Mal
His boys don't know that he's dating.
Damaris
Dating her that doesn't know that they're serious. I'm sure his friends know he's. They've been dealing with each other for a while.
Mal
Yeah, but even. Even if. Even if your homie know you a girl, sometimes he'll still try to holl at her.
Damaris
That's what I'm doing. Because.
Mal
But it's not exactly saying, yo, she's a slide. I'm not saying exactly. You know, she's not my girl.
Damaris
I know. But he has made it clear if those are his real friends, that that's just something. Like, it don't really matter.
Rory
I think you're Putting.
Damaris
They would be comfortable.
Mal
I'm not mad. They would be comfortable.
Damaris
That could be reaching out to her because they know that's just somebod every now.
Mal
That could be the case. That could be the case.
Rory
But she didn't paint it like that. But also, girls, sometimes women are not.
Mal
Keep it real. You know what she's doing? She's keeping up. She's keeping the door open. And because it's like, she's gonna use that as well. If you don't want Holland at me, then make me a girl.
Rory
But she. Well, how is she gonna use that when she never said anything? The dude, like, he eventually found that out. And like, she used it, like.
Mal
But I'm saying he found it. No, found it. And now her response in that conversation can be, well, if you don't want your boys trying to holl at me, then tell them I'm off limits. Tell them I'm your girl.
Rory
Yeah, that's what I said.
Mal
No, how about you tell them like, yo, me and homie is dating. Like, get out of here. I'm not.
Rory
You think I'ma tell your friend? Nah, I'm off limits when your friend not telling you I'm off limits. That don't even mean that's going out sad.
Mal
No, it's not.
Damaris
Going out sad would be entertaining the friend after you.
Rory
No, that's going out terrible. That's going out horrendous.
Damaris
But you might as well dress up as him for Halloween.
Rory
See?
Damaris
Love you, Kayla.
Rory
But I just feel like it's not my job to tell. It's not my job to tell your friends, like, because I'm not. I don't know. I never know where is. And I feel like if your friends feel comfortable hollering at me, just from my personal experience, I'm not as old as her. But from my personal experience, if a man feels comfortable hollering at you and you talking to his homeboy, then it is like Rory said, like, either he completely doesn't know, which means that man don't talk about you to his friends. Or he does know and he don't care because he know his homeboy don't really rock with you like that. Either way, you need to get the up out of there or ask or press him, because I would immediately pressed him like, yo, why is your homeboy trying to get at me? The is going on.
Mal
Like, why shouldn't that. That should have been the case. She should have immediately brought that up just like that. Like, yo, what's up? Why your homeboy DMing me.
Julian
Like not only one multiple.
Mal
Yeah, yeah, but she got that snapback she got. Oh, she a little older too. That thing. She. Ooh, she know how to. She know how to put the chicken on fry and go upstairs and rock you to sleep real quick. Go back downstairs before it burn.
Damaris
Tuck you in too.
Mal
Oh, that old, that grown, that sophisticated. She done seen some summers for sure.
Julian
She know how to put that onto the team.
Damaris
She has scars on her knees.
Mal
Oh, man, she know how to go upstairs. I got seven minutes to rock this world and go back downstairs.
Rory
You could do a lot in seven minutes.
Mal
That's what I'm saying.
Damaris
It's a long ass time.
Julian
Seven up.
Mal
Hell yeah. When that thing warm too, she come up there and sit on you like, like that. And then go right back downstairs. You start looking around like, what is life?
Damaris
You curl over, start sucking your thumb.
Mal
You get.
Damaris
You double wrap the blanket over you.
Mal
Yeah, that's when you start. You get on Snapchat while you under the blanket like, yo, I don't even know what's happening right now. This just rolled me to sleep. And she's downstairs finishing finishing dinner.
Rory
Like, right, you take a nap.
Damaris
Tomorrow's dinner.
Mal
What? She's meal prepping right after putting me to sleep. Sleep, man. Listen, if I was the homies, I might have to hit up too. I want to get meal prepped. It. Why not prep my meals?
Damaris
I. To answer a question, though, I think she should have told him from. From.
Mal
Yeah, man, always tell them.
Damaris
I would still have that conversation with him. Like, why do you think your friends felt comfortable?
Mal
You know why? You know why? Because I've seen this happen. Dudes have tested the chick. I know dudes that be like, yo, hit her up. See what she do. Like, let me see what she. She do. I've seen. I wouldn't do it, but I've seen it.
Damaris
I've seen that multiple times. It's a very common thing. And I've always found it odd.
Mal
It's. No, it's odd, but I've seen it. Like, dudes, like, all right, I want to see if she.
Damaris
If she going or not, because it's kind of gay. Which friend are you picking? Like, now you're thinking about. Now you're thinking about which friend you're gonna send to really test her. That's why I've always found that odd. Like, now you're looking at your friends.
Julian
Like, trying to trap someone. It's just. That's so lame. Because it's like, no, it is lame.
Mal
But I'm saying that that's probably what this could have been like. I want to see if she's going to be truthful with me and forthcoming and tell me, like, yo, he tried to holla at me, like.
Rory
But she did say. She did say. She shut. I think the most important part that everybody's overlooking. Yes, she didn't tell him, but she said I shut it down immediately because that's what's important. Telling you or not telling you, that's her intentions. Like, she said, I didn't want it to be awkward. I didn't want, like, you know, it to cause a riff in friendship. Like, I know how that can be, especially if you continue to be friends with the nigga. Because then it's like, if I tell you this and you continue to be friends with him, then it's like, I told you for no reason and now shit awkward with us and we can never be around, you know? So I get her her good intentions, but she shut it down. And that's what was most important. No, I'm sorry, this can't happen.
Mal
I've done that. I've done that to girls. I've literally text. Oh, I'm telling, like, when a girl DM me. That ain't supposed to be DMing me.
Rory
O. I'm telling.
Mal
O, I'm telling.
Damaris
So childish as a man.
Mal
Delete a whole account. O you trying to me.
Damaris
I ni that whole in the bud early with my friend group when they found out I wasn't the cool. Like, like, yo, it's. It's for the team. Let's have orgies. There was two occasions when I had friends reach out to chicks that I was just dealing. Like, just no real. And they came to me and was like, yo, your. Your friends like, be hitting on me. I said to all them, I like my hoes. It's not for the team. Just cuz I'm not wifeing doesn't mean that y'all can do that. I'm not one of the. She's for the team people.
Mal
Like, my hose is crazy.
Damaris
I. I like her. Don't do that.
Mal
I like my hoses. Why? Wow. Y'all like my hoes. Hey, what's the homies response to that?
Damaris
They laughed at me, okay? Rightfully so.
Mal
Yeah, you gotta laugh. You gotta be like, what? How you just. She for everybody. Nah, you this. You got her right now. But it's like, that's like renting a car and saying, I love this car.
Damaris
Fair. What Fair? But while we're in this city, for this time. That's my rental car.
Mal
Okay.
Damaris
And it's a one seater.
Mal
Okay. I'm not mad at that. I'm not mad at that. I respect it.
Damaris
No, this ain't for the team.
Mal
I respect it.
Damaris
And first of all, we here for the weekend. So, like, I respect it. I'm taking Saturday, you taking Sunday. That's gross.
Mal
Small window. I respect it. That I respect.
Damaris
I'm talking about wasn't like, in city like a roadie.
Mal
Oh, no roadie. I ain't tripping. Like, love they road.
Damaris
But we would go back to those cities, though.
Rory
Them couldn't stop booking Houston Paloozas.
Mal
Yo, it wasn't one time we was going there like, every few months.
Julian
We was doubling back, like, not even for a show.
Mal
Nah. Just to like, you know, scenery. Yeah. Resources, research.
Damaris
We would purposely do connecting flights.
Mal
Yeah, research.
Damaris
There's directs to la.
Mal
Yeah.
Damaris
But sometimes you gotta have a layover.
Mal
Sometimes. Sometimes you're gonna break up.
Damaris
It was more expensive for that later.
Mal
Yeah, I get it.
Damaris
But I've always been. Maybe that's the, like the beta male in me.
Mal
Yeah.
Damaris
I don't. Nah. If we're all friends, I don't do the for the team thing.
Mal
I feel you.
Damaris
I'm with and vice versa. Like, I don't fuck with somebody else's shit. Even if they say that's for the team. All right, well, I'll be on the bench for this one.
Julian
There's mad players out there. Pick a different one.
Mal
Another one.
Julian
I never heard.
Damaris
So many other ways. Friends to bond. Yeah.
Mal
I'm not trying to like, let's do.
Damaris
CrossFit together or something.
Mal
I'm not trying to go for a job. Chicks that my homies sleep with. I never was that type of guy.
Rory
And all Rory friends are like, black. So it's like, if she, like, like me, like, why you think she, like, would like you?
Damaris
Like, you know, every girl I've slept with only sleeps exclusively with white guys.
Rory
No, but I'm just saying they treat.
Mal
Rory like the same way we would treat a white girl in the hood that lived on a block.
Rory
Pass her around, you got to braid.
Damaris
Her hair and let her say the N word. Yeah.
Mal
I've never been with a. I've never been with a redhead. Let me see what that's about.
Rory
All the black men I know love white. White redheaded women. It's like the redheaded women, though, only. Only redheaded white women. They love them for some reason.
Mal
I don't.
Rory
I never understood why too much of.
Damaris
Me can't get into it. Not saying they're not beautiful.
Rory
It's just not fire crotch. The fire crotch is now.
Damaris
Yeah. That's like HSV3 3 to guys burning.
Mal
Tickets available now. New.com we will. Well, if you're listening to this, we're in Toronto tonight. Yes.
Damaris
No, no, we were just happened. It was a.
Mal
We were in Toronto.
Damaris
What a show. Drake came out. Drake did a full interview. He addressed everything. He addressed not like us.
Mal
He.
Damaris
He leaked the new diss track that's going at Kendrick Lamar live at the show. I guess if you missed it, you missed it. We'll be in Atlanta and he said he's going to do it again in Atlanta.
Mal
So yeah, he's going to follow us the rest of the rest of the do it again.
Damaris
Do it again.
Mal
He'll say it again.
Damaris
Wait. He's our supporting actor for the rest of the tour.
Mal
He's the opening opening act. Tickets available.
Damaris
Do that for him.
Mal
New Rory Mall.com we will be in Atlanta November 22nd and then finishing out the year home, New York City, December 14th at the Gramercy Theater. Tickets available now. Hope to see y'all there. Let's have some fun. Let's have some laughs. It's getting cold very fast. I just wanted to throw that out there. Yesterday was kind of like a wake up call for me. I was like, it's like fall. Fall.
Damaris
Yeah.
Mal
But yeah, everybody be safe, be blessed and we'll see you in a couple of days. I'm that he's just ginger. Peace. No warrior now.
Podcast Summary: New Rory & MAL
Episode 312 | "3rd Leg Of Separation"
Release Date: October 18, 2024
In Episode 312 of "New Rory & MAL," hosts Mal, Rory, Damaris, and Julian delve into a whirlwind of topics ranging from cultural identity and celebrity gossip to self-awareness and modern relationship dynamics. The episode is a blend of sharp humor, candid discussions, and insightful commentary, ensuring listeners are both entertained and enlightened.
The episode kicks off with a lively debate about barbershop culture and racial representation. Mal and Damaris discuss perceptions around haircuts and racial identity, highlighting how certain styles are associated predominantly with Black barbershops.
Notable Quote:
Damaris (00:51): "Yeah. How you feeling? You got a haircut?"
Mal (01:05): "On today on the barber chart."
This exchange underscores the connection between personal appearance and cultural identity, setting the stage for deeper conversations about race and societal expectations.
The hosts transition to discussing NFL star Travis Kelce, noting his recent appearances and the public’s evolving perception of him. Mal humorously remarks on Kelce’s transformation post-breakup, suggesting a change in his persona.
Notable Quote:
Mal (01:49): "Ever since he broke up with Kayla, he lost all his like. Like, he's a white boy now."
This segment highlights the interplay between personal relationships and public image, using Kelce as a case study.
A significant portion of the episode centers on the tumultuous relationship between Kayla and Tiana Taylor. The hosts dissect Kayla’s appearance on Angel Reese’s podcast, where she discusses past relationships, leading to intense online backlash from Taylorswiftie communities.
Notable Quote:
Damaris (03:08): "The Internet got a hold of this, and over the past weekend, it was like, the most trending shit ever."
The discussion delves into themes of cyberbullying, accountability, and the complexities of public relationships, emphasizing the harmful effects of online mob mentality.
The conversation shifts to self-awareness, exploring how individuals perceive themselves versus how they are perceived by others. The hosts debate the notion of internal and external self-awareness, touching upon insecurities and the impact of heightened self-perception on mental health.
Notable Quote:
Rory (25:44): "Self awareness is knowing I feel that way and trying my best not to be around people at that time."
This section encourages listeners to reflect on their self-awareness levels and its influence on their interactions and relationships.
Damaris critiques the current generation's sense of self-importance and victim mentality, attributing it to excessive validation sought through social media. The hosts discuss how this mindset affects interpersonal relationships and societal interactions.
Notable Quote:
Damaris (31:27): "Everyone in this generation feels like they're important. Everyone feels like their voice matters so much because they're able to post it anywhere they want."
This critical analysis prompts listeners to evaluate the authenticity of their self-perception and the societal influences shaping it.
A heated discussion unfolds around the OnlyFans platform, focusing on a controversy involving a 19-year-old woman who contracted HSV2 after collaborating with a content creator known as "Gucci Third Leg." The hosts explore the implications of sexually transmitted infections in the digital content industry and the responsibilities of creators and collaborators.
Notable Quote:
Damaris (50:03): "She then found out after the collab that she had contracted HSV2, which is general herpes."
The segment sheds light on the importance of sexual health awareness and the ethical considerations within the adult content creation space.
Towards the end of the episode, the hosts address listener voicemails, offering advice on complex relationship scenarios. One caller grapples with the dilemma of disclosing past situations to a non-official partner, prompting a discussion on honesty and transparency in relationships.
Notable Quote:
Mal (78:51): "So that's why you're wrong for not telling them. And just because you're not a couple officially doesn't mean you don't owe the person honesty."
This advice segment reinforces the value of open communication and integrity in maintaining healthy relationships.
Episode 312 of "New Rory & MAL" presents a comprehensive exploration of contemporary issues, blending humor with meaningful discourse. From dissecting celebrity relationships and cultural identity to addressing personal growth and ethical dilemmas in the digital age, the hosts provide listeners with both entertainment and thoughtful insights. Whether you're a regular follower or tuning in for the first time, this episode offers a rich tapestry of conversations that resonate with a diverse audience.
Notable Quotes with Timestamps:
This structured approach ensures all key discussions are captured effectively, providing a clear and engaging summary for those who haven't listened to the episode.