Episode 313 | We Cry Together

Summary

Podcast Summary: New Rory & Mal – Episode 313 | We Cry Together

Release Date: October 22, 2024
Hosts: Rory & Mal
Produced by: iHeartPodcasts and The Volume
Duration: Approximately 2 hours and 13 minutes

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1. Opening Remarks and Sports Highlights

[00:00 - 01:00]
The episode kicks off with Rory and Mal engaging in their signature banter, quickly transitioning to exciting sports news.

• Rory: Announces, “[01:12] We are WNBA champions.”
• Mal: Celebrates New York Liberty's victory, proclaiming, “[01:19] The only championships New York can celebrate is the women's basketball New York Liberty winning it all.”

They express pride in the Liberty's success, contrasting it with recent performances of other local teams.

Notable Quote:
Rory ([01:28]): “I went to the Giants game on Sunday where they got clapped... at least we have the Liberty.”

2. Toronto Show Recap

[02:00 - 06:17]
Rory shares his experience attending a Giants game and witnessing the Liberty's triumph, while Mal discusses their Toronto show. They reminisce about the energy, memorable moments, and interactions with fans.

• Damaris ([05:06]): Shouts out to Snow Day Scarborough, highlighting the vibrant Toronto crowd.
• Rory ([05:57]): Reflects on their performance, noting memorable events like a couple getting engaged on stage.

Notable Quote:
Mal ([05:44]): “Thank you to all the ladies that came out. Had great words of encouragement, showed a lot of love after the show.”

3. Personal Anecdotes and Travel Stories

[06:17 - 16:20]
The hosts delve into their recent travels, including challenges faced during their Toronto trip such as hotel issues and navigating local traffic.

• Rory ([07:02]): Talks about exploring local spots despite early show departures.
• Damaris ([10:22]): Enthusiastically shares her positive experience with Uber shuttles to the airport, praising their efficiency and affordability.

Notable Quote:
Damaris ([10:22]): “The Uber shuttle... Yeah, man, it's the cheapest to and from I've ever done.”

4. Navigating Airport Experiences

[16:20 - 24:20]
Discussion shifts to airport logistics, particularly the renovation of LaGuardia Airport and improvements made over the years. They contrast this with past experiences and comment on the new amenities.

Notable Quote:
Rory ([09:55]): “He said it's the worst, worst airport.”

5. Connecting with Fans and Event Highlights

[24:20 - 35:00]
Rory and Mal share heartwarming interactions from their Toronto show, including moments where they welcomed fans and celebrated special occasions like engagements on stage.

• Rory ([06:08]): Describes a couple getting married at the show, emphasizing the celebration of love over conflict.

Notable Quote:
Rory ([06:08]): “...they got married and they were at the show. They ... just celebrated love.”

6. Addressing Cultural Topics and Media

[35:00 - 65:12]
The conversation transitions to broader cultural discussions, including reactions to the upcoming Martha Stewart documentary on Netflix, recent movie releases, and TV show reviews.

• Damaris ([26:22]): Critiques Martha Stewart's handling of infidelity as depicted in the documentary.
• Rory ([36:28]): Recommends the recent Brad Pitt and George Clooney movie available on Apple TV, praising its storyline without spoilers.

Notable Quote:
Damaris ([26:22]): “...if you're married and your husband starts to cheat on you, he's a piece of shit.”

7. Voicemail Segment: Offering Support

[65:12 - 107:45]
A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to responding to a heartfelt voicemail from a listener named Gucci Thurlow, who shares struggles with depression, financial burdens, and relationship issues. Rory, Mal, Julian, and Damaris provide compassionate advice and resources.

• Rory ([117:56]): Emphasizes the importance of seeking healthier coping mechanisms over temporary distractions.
• Mal ([117:56]): Recommends therapy and offers a discount code for BetterHelp.com.

Notable Quotes:
Rory ([117:56]): “...find healthier ways to get out of this hole that you're in.”
Mal ([117:56]): “...find a good therapist. Therapy.”

8. Political Ads and Campaign Strategies

[107:45 - 131:50]
The hosts critique recent political campaign ads, focusing on a YouTube balloon game ad by the Harris team aimed at encouraging voter registration among women.

• Rory ([40:18]): Describes the balloon game concept and questions its effectiveness.
• Damaris ([44:02]): Praises the ad for its cultural relevance and timely approach.

Notable Quote:
Rory ([43:30]): “You think most of the views on those balloon shows are strategic racism? They're racist.”

9. Music and Media Discussions

[131:50 - 144:00]
Rory and Mal discuss the induction of Tribe Called Quest into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, debating the appropriateness of a separate hip-hop Hall of Fame. They also touch upon upcoming music releases and the importance of lyrical depth versus melody in songs.

• Rory ([49:31]): Celebrates Tribe Called Quest's impact on music.
• Damaris ([50:14]): Suggests the need for a dedicated hip-hop Hall of Fame.

Notable Quote:
Rory ([50:16]): “We got what hove last year. Or is that two years ago?”

10. Closing Remarks and Upcoming Events

[144:00 - End]
In their concluding segments, Rory and Mal thank their Toronto fans, mention upcoming shows in Atlanta and New York City, and highlight memorable moments from the tour. They also play out some humorous and emotional voicemail interactions before signing off.

Notable Quote:
Mal ([128:57]): “Good to see some familiar faces. Good to meet some new people.”

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Key Takeaways

• Sports Pride: Celebrating the New York Liberty's WNBA championship and contrasting it with other local sports teams' performances.
• Tour Insights: Detailed recounting of their Toronto show, including fan interactions and memorable on-stage moments.
• Personal Struggles: Offering support and advice to listeners facing emotional and financial hardships.
• Cultural Critique: Analyzing the effectiveness and cultural sensitivity of political campaign ads.
• Music Appreciation: Highlighting Tribe Called Quest's legacy and debating the need for a hip-hop Hall of Fame.
• Upcoming Events: Teasing future shows and expressing gratitude to fans for their continued support.

Notable Quotes with Timestamps

• Rory ([01:12]): “We are WNBA champions.”
• Damaris ([05:06]): “Shout out to Snow Day Scarborough, a legend.”
• Mal ([26:22]): “...if you're married and your husband starts to cheat on you, he's a piece of shit.”
• Rory ([36:28]): “It's really a great movie. Highly recommend it.”
• Rory ([117:56]): “...find healthier ways to get out of this hole that you're in.”

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This episode of New Rory & Mal offers a blend of sports enthusiasm, personal storytelling, cultural commentary, and heartfelt listener support, encapsulating the dynamic range that fans have come to love from the show.

Transcript

[Rory]

New worry and mouth.

[Mal]

I can't even.

[Rory]

Buy a home in private Home invasions.

[Mal]

Got my brothers dying Notice every car that's driving by I think my neighbors won't be dead I got a cannon.

[Rory]

Underneath the bed Triple checking if I.

[Mal]

Lock the door I know every creep that's in the floor I'm paranoid I.

[Rory]

Loop around the block Eyes glued to.

[Mal]

The rear view Rather double back then regret hearing Never trust a if you good they could trap you so just strap it up but they around and strap you.

[Rory]

Okay Name that tune charge.

[Damaris]

That's what that was.

[Rory]

And we are back. We are WNBA champions.

[Mal]

Oh, man.

[Rory]

And we are back, New York. We are back.

[Mal]

The only championships New York. The only championship New York can celebrate is the women's basketball New York Liberty winning it all.

[Rory]

Yeah, it was. I went to the Giants game on Sunday where they got clapped. I mean, I was happy Saquon got his revenge, because I do with Saquon a lot. But as me and Kaz were leaving early, I was just screaming, at least we have the Liberty.

[Mal]

That's it. The Liberty. The Liberty. They're the Queens of, of New York.

[Rory]

Now why not us?

[Damaris]

Brought my rally towel Dub we got all we need, baby Winner, facts heard.

[Rory]

About it why not us?

[Damaris]

Why not us? Well, hopefully the Mets can get behind that rally cry. They got clapped up.

[Rory]

But I did wear a Subway Series shirt just in remembrance, you know, what could have been.

[Mal]

Of what could have been. Yeah, I knew the mess wasn't gonna handle business, man.

[Rory]

Yeah, I was kind of hopeful for a Subway Series.

[Mal]

I mean, I wanted it, but I knew it wasn't gonna happen.

[Damaris]

I went to the game on Thursday.

[Mal]

The Dodgers, they got too much over there, man.

[Rory]

I was hoping that it would also bring World Series tickets down. This could just be a stupid thought, but I was like, all right, if both teams are in New York, maybe, like, that would lower because there's more games for New Yorkers to go to.

[Julian]

How would you think that?

[Mal]

Taxes.

[Rory]

Because there's only so many home games for the Yankees. The others are going to be in la. So the tickets would be higher because there's less games. If all the games are in New York, then New Yorkers, like, maybe will go down.

[Mal]

I like that. Your brain kind of, like, was that helpful? Yeah, but that's not how it works, though. It would be double taxes. We got to pay double taxes.

[Damaris]

If it was a subway state, all of a sudden, the train fare would be, like, $40.

[Mal]

Exactly.

[Damaris]

To go to the Bronx, two stops.

[Mal]

Yeah, yeah, $40.

[Rory]

Okay. And we won't. We won't stay too local. But do we think that Eric Adams will be front row the way Giuliani used to be at all the World Series games? Like he was behind the catcher. You would see front row at Passada. And Giuliani, well, he'll be close to the stadium.

[Mal]

It's a courthouse right across the street.

[Rory]

A beautiful courthouse with a lot of steps.

[Mal]

Beautiful courthouse. If you ever seen the movie Shaft.

[Rory]

Oh, yeah, that is.

[Mal]

Yeah, Same courthouse. That's the courthouse every gaddam.

[Damaris]

You guys see his recent. He came out and gave a recent address and he wore this hat.

[Rory]

What did he address? I don't care about the hat.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Rory]

What the is my tax dollars.

[Mal]

What did he have to say?

[Rory]

Nothing. That he's throwing the liberty of parade. Oh, my God, they're gonna go around city hall.

[Mal]

Before we go.

[Rory]

There's another prison over there too.

[Mal]

Before we go any further, I do want to send prayers to DJ Clark Kent.

[Rory]

Yes, absolutely.

[Mal]

You know, continue prayers and strength and to him and his family, send as many prayers up as possible for our legendary brother, one of the icons of our culture, DJ Clark Kent.

[Rory]

Love you, Clark. And. And definitely prayers to his family as well, because I know they're going through this with him and everyone on the Internet that tries to be first with stuff.

[Mal]

I mean, you know how that like.

[Rory]

Confirm things like death, Please. Cuz. Yeah, my heart dropped. I think that was what, Wednesday? Yeah, we don't even need to get into it. Just. You guys are weird. I'll just put it that way. And we can get to some, you know, some happier stuff. We're fresh from the six. Well, I left pretty early. I think you landed this morning.

[Mal]

No, I'm from Toronto. Saturday.

[Rory]

Okay.

[Mal]

I got back Saturday. I got in Saturday. Saturday afternoon we can get in the.

[Rory]

Show because it was one of my favorites. But Friday morning in the group chat call mall, like, yeah, you want to split an Uber? He's like, I think. I think I'm a stay for a few more days.

[Mal]

Another day.

[Rory]

Yeah, but I thought that would roll into like, well, I'm already here Saturday. Might as well stay Sunday and then take the Monday morning flight because it's only like 30 minutes.

[Mal]

No, I got out of there. I got out. I left Saturday. Man.

[Damaris]

Did you guys leave the boy in Toronto?

[Rory]

I did not see the boy.

[Damaris]

No, the owl. The boy.

[Mal]

Oh, yeah, he was. He was in.

[Damaris]

You left him up there?

[Mal]

One of those trees.

[Rory]

Nice. He flew down south for the winter.

[Mal]

He's in one of those Trees up there somewhere, man. Shout out to everybody that came out to the Toronto show. Had a great time, man. Great crowd, great energy.

[Rory]

And shout out to our guy, Snow Day.

[Mal]

Shout out to Snow Day Scarborough, a legend.

[Rory]

He. We did a walk out to Wagwan Delilah, which was hilarious, I think. The greatest.

[Mal]

So ridiculous.

[Rory]

The greatest.

[Mal]

It was so ridiculous.

[Rory]

I was. I was really jealous when I went to go see Gillian Wallow when they were at Sony hall, because they came out with Freeway, and I was like, damn, that's hard.

[Mal]

Everywhere we feel like.

[Rory]

So, yeah, I feel like we kind of matched it with Snow Day in Toronto.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

It wasn't quite what we do, but Wagwan, Delilah, I think, really represents the.

[Mal]

Town I represented very well. Shout out to Snow Day. Shout out to all the guys that came out. Show love. This is some ladies in the building, too, in Toronto.

[Rory]

Definitely some.

[Mal]

Some ladies in the building. Thank you to all the ladies that came out. Had great words of encouragement, showed a lot of love after the show.

[Rory]

Yeah. Julian, remember that couple that got engaged on stage?

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Rory]

They got married and they were at the show.

[Damaris]

He had a ring.

[Mal]

Yes.

[Rory]

Really nice rings. He was correct. He just needed a little bit more time.

[Mal]

A little more time this time.

[Rory]

But we brought them on stage and didn't even try to, like, break anyone up. Just celebrated love.

[Mal]

No, we can't. There's no breaking them up. Like, she knows how to cook, like, African dishes now, like.

[Damaris]

But she a white girl, right?

[Mal]

Yeah. She's a lifer. Yeah. She's not going nowhere.

[Rory]

No, she's. She's been brought in by her. Was it Nigerian?

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

In laws. That was funny. I could tell that they hate her, but. Very sweet couple. But it was just. It was just an overall really fun show.

[Mal]

Had a great time, man. Had a great time. Toronto was a lot of fun, man.

[Rory]

You went out after the show to get food. I went back to apartment 200 to see if I could relive the feeling from last trip.

[Mal]

You had to go stamp your flag again.

[Rory]

Listen, man, put your flag. I didn't quite do it the way Julian and Peach did. They went, like three or four times. Last time we were here, I only went once. It was a great crowd, but I lasted, I don't know, maybe 30 minutes. It was almost closing time anyways, but.

[Mal]

Yeah, it was gonna beat you there. But I was. I had to eat, man. I went to eat. I was hungry.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

I was on stage thinking about what I was gonna eat. That's how I didn't eat since, like, 1230.

[Damaris]

They got vegan poutine.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

What is it?

[Mal]

Vegan cheese and gravy.

[Rory]

But gravy has. There's vegan gravy.

[Damaris]

What is that?

[Mal]

What is vegan flour and.

[Julian]

Yeah, but gravy is not.

[Rory]

There's me in gravy.

[Mal]

Gravy isn't vegan.

[Damaris]

No.

[Rory]

Even the ones that don't vegetarian.

[Julian]

It's not vegan.

[Mal]

What is in gravy? How do you cook?

[Julian]

Butter?

[Mal]

It's vegan butter.

[Rory]

Okay. I thought there was some. Some type of meat.

[Mal]

No, but you can put.

[Julian]

Well, no, you can put gravy on meat. No, you could put. So gravy is usually made with the drippings that you cook. Yeah, but obviously vegans wouldn't use that.

[Mal]

No, that's grease and too though. You don't want that.

[Rory]

Well, how was the vegan poutine? Your sister said that to me and I thought it was a joke.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Julian]

Stop putting the N on the po poo poutine.

[Damaris]

He's been saying that he's calling poon.

[Julian]

Teen like he make it.

[Mal]

He's horny. Horny like the horny Irishman sitting over here.

[Rory]

I got no poon teen out there. Which was unfortunate.

[Mal]

You making no vegan poon teen?

[Rory]

No. No human poontine, no animal poontine? Nothing whatsoever.

[Mal]

I had two glasses.

[Rory]

Two glasses of wine in apartment 200 is as freaky as I got.

[Mal]

Drinking wine in apartment 200 is hilarious.

[Damaris]

That's.

[Rory]

They brought me a whole bottle like in the thing. I was like, I mean, does anyone.

[Mal]

Want any section at apartment 200?

[Rory]

I didn't ask for one. They.

[Damaris]

They brought me out there.

[Mal]

He had a bed at apartment.

[Damaris]

Wait. Did you guys know.

[Rory]

It was more of a booth. You know what? It was a section. Okay. And I felt good about it. I may have stood up at one point.

[Damaris]

You gave a toast?

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Oh yeah, definitely dug. Dug my sneakers into that couch.

[Mal]

Okay. That's what's up.

[Damaris]

Did you guys know they have a Tim Hortons at jfk?

[Rory]

No, I didn't know that.

[Damaris]

I was gone. I landed there. I was gone for a night this week and I came back and I saw Tim Hortons leaving. I was like, that doesn't feel right.

[Mal]

You another night in New York.

[Damaris]

Cuz it's not a. Get out of here. Put a Dunkin Donuts there.

[Rory]

No, there.

[Julian]

There's Tim Horton.

[Mal]

I hate when you go to the airport and your. Your flight is leaving from the gate. That is like it's nothing near your gate.

[Rory]

That's usually what Happens to me for.

[Mal]

Some reason, I'm like, so there's no Hudson News? No Dunkin Donuts? No. Nothing next to this gate?

[Rory]

Nope. Or the one at jfk. Wow, this is really a local New York episode so far. I hate that terminal at JFK where the only thing that's open in the morning is Shake Shack. Oh, like you want me to start with indigestion? You want me to. On this flight, the breakfast only thing open is Shake Shack at 6 o'clock.

[Mal]

You stop there every time.

[Rory]

It's either that or the Starbucks line that's around the corner.

[Mal]

Yeah, it's like, all right, I'll get.

[Rory]

Some cheese fries at 6am doesn't get on a flight to LA.

[Mal]

There's another restaurant in. No, it's in LaGuardia. That's really nice. I forgot the name of it. But every time I go there, I try to stop there if I have enough time. LaGuardia, they did a great job.

[Damaris]

That renovation really looks amazing.

[Mal]

It looks like LaGuardia used to be like one of the worst airports in the. In the, in the country. Now it's like one of my favorites.

[Rory]

Not, not to make this a Trump thing whatsoever, but do you remember like his first policy when he started running in whatever 2015, he was going to change LaGuardia. That was like his first policy.

[Mal]

It was that bad.

[Rory]

He said it's the worst. It's the worst, worst airport.

[Mal]

LaGuardia. It was terrible. But now they did a great. Even like getting an Uber from the Guadi is a lot easier now.

[Rory]

Oh, I too.

[Damaris]

I took that Uber shuttle for the first time.

[Mal]

How was it?

[Damaris]

The, the I. The cheapest to and from I've ever done. So the Uber shuttle, it's not just New York or it might be. We'll stay local. It. It's. They have pickup points, so it's like either Port Authority or Penn Station. I went to The Penn Station one.

[Mal]

Makes sense.

[Damaris]

You reserve a time. $8.

[Mal]

That's all you.

[Damaris]

To the airport. So traffic light, you go from. I got to the airport in. My flight was at like 11. So I was, I got there in like 20 minutes. And there's no stops. It's like everyone's here. And there was me, two other girls, this big ass Mercedes, like you know, the Sprinter, right to the airport. Drop me off right outside the the gate. It was perfect.

[Rory]

I was gonna do that.

[Damaris]

Eight.

[Rory]

Eight. I was gonna do that to Toronto on. I'm sorry everyone in Toronto. I keep putting the extra T. Toronto. I was gonna do that. But I had two merch bags with me, and I was sad I couldn't try that out because I think that's the greatest deal. I'm sure it's gonna be in other cities.

[Damaris]

Oh, I loved it.

[Mal]

Absolutely. They gotta. That's. This is just like the. The test phase to see how it does in one of the worst traffic cities in the world. But at Toronto's traffic, though. Toronto has some crazy traffic. It's bare traffic for sure, that at 1:00, I'm like, where's everybody going at 1:00pm? Where's everybody going right now?

[Rory]

On a weekday?

[Mal]

On a weekday. Didn't understand why the traffic was like that, but was told that Toronto definitely has some of the worst traffic.

[Damaris]

Last year, it sucked. The ride to the venue was like an hour and a half.

[Mal]

It's crazy.

[Rory]

Yeah. Well, we shout out to our guys that. That set us up with a Sprinter. We get. You know, finally, when we get a sprinter for free in a city, it's when the venue is literally across the street. Like, I was hyped. Shout out to my man. Kareem is. His cousin was the one that owned the Sprinter. Yeah, I was hype. I text them all, like, locked us in. Free sprinter, like, trying to stunt. Like, I was like, man is across.

[Mal]

The street, five minutes away.

[Damaris]

Said, cool, I walk over. I'll see you there.

[Mal]

Got a sprinter to drive. Five minutes. That's what's up.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Rory]

And then I got in there. They were playing Akon. I was in. I was in my mood.

[Mal]

I forgot what they was playing when I was in, but it was cold as it was.

[Rory]

Definitely brick in there.

[Mal]

I don't understand. Yo, Even though the hotel room was, like, the heat wasn't working.

[Rory]

Wasn't working.

[Mal]

PJ, he wasn't working either, right. I had it on 83, and I swear I woke up and the bed was cold.

[Rory]

And it was the. The W, right?

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Like, it's.

[Mal]

The W was really nice, but I don't understand what that heat was doing. I don't know if people in Toronto don't turn on heat until Halloween, but.

[Julian]

None of y'all complained. That's my favorite thing to do is complain. Y'all didn't complain to anybody.

[Mal]

Well, what you gonna complain and say?

[Rory]

Just put a hoodie on?

[Mal]

I had it all the way on 83, and it felt like it was in maybe 69.

[Julian]

And that means the maintenance man needed to come and do what he needed to do.

[Mal]

But if everybody's wasn't working, it wasn't Just my room. That's like the building.

[Rory]

Fix the hotel.

[Mal]

Like, the whole. The hotel is not. That doesn't have any heat right now. Soon as Peach told me that, I was like, okay, so it's not just my room.

[Rory]

They also had a champagne vending machine, which I had never seen in my entire life. All Moet?

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

At the W. How much for a bottle? I didn't even look.

[Julian]

There were many ones.

[Damaris]

Was it the mini one?

[Mal]

Yeah, it was like Denzel and movie Flight. He can't have that.

[Damaris]

It's right for the shuttle across the street.

[Rory]

Call time. I just fall out of the room with a bloody forehead.

[Mal]

Go downstairs, the whole Moet vending machine is empty. He went crazy last night.

[Rory]

I'm drunk right now. Underrated movie. I love Flight.

[Mal]

Oh, God.

[Rory]

I just think it's hilarious. They actually have it available on planes.

[Mal]

Yeah, me too.

[Rory]

Who's watching Flight on a flight?

[Mal]

I would. I did one time.

[Rory]

I would never want to look over at the person next to me and they watching a plane inverted.

[Mal]

Yeah. Be thankful.

[Rory]

How many times do you think you've had a pilot that may have been either hungover or drunk or had cocaine in their system?

[Mal]

Oh, probably every time. One out of three flights?

[Rory]

Yeah, I think so.

[Mal]

You see them when they come back from. When they go to the restaurants in the airport, they walk back. You got to look at them like, yeah, you just had a shot.

[Rory]

And I have a homegirl that's a flight attendant, and she. She tells me the stories. Yeah, those flight attendants and pilots get freaky in Cleveland and then move on to the next city. They're a crew. For real.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Nasty, horny crew.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Up in those skies. Well, anyways, again, can't say enough about the Toronto show. Thank you to everyone that came out. Atlanta. We will be there November 22.

[Mal]

Yes, sir.

[Rory]

Tickets available now. Excited for. For Atlanta, of course.

[Mal]

Yeah, man.

[Rory]

Of course. I wish we could have stayed in Toronto a little longer, but, you know, had to go be a family man. Most uneventful Toronto trip. I felt like I did the city a disservice.

[Mal]

I finally went to the museum in Toronto. The rom. It was, like, literally three blocks from my hotel. Yeah, I went there. I was so high, I didn't remember what the. I saw. And I got to start taking.

[Rory]

Did you go alone?

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Going museum alone is celebrity.

[Mal]

I woke up, I got some. I got. I got a latte. I sound like a housewife. I woke up, got a latte, opened.

[Rory]

A bottle of chardonnay.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Mal]

I smoked on the walk there and I just walking around looking. I was like, oh. Then I met my boy for. For lunch at like 2:00. So I was there for like 40 minutes, but I don't remember what I saw. I didn't take a single picture of anything. Like, my friend was like, so you went to the museum and didn't take a picture of nothing? I was like, nah. Yeah, just hi, man. Just high, looking around. I know people was like, who the is this dude? Just hi.

[Rory]

Did you talk to anyone?

[Mal]

The person that worked there?

[Rory]

You had a private tour while you were high?

[Mal]

No, I was just walking around, looking at. I was like, okay, this is pretty cool. The building is really nice.

[Rory]

Okay.

[Mal]

Yeah. Okay. Just looking at you.

[Rory]

Okay.

[Mal]

See what this artist was doing here?

[Rory]

Yeah, the POD crew was kind of split this. This past week. I feel like we were technically with ovo, I guess you could say. I think Snow Days is part of the crew, sort of. And Julian was with Dreamville.

[Damaris]

I returned back to my roots.

[Mal]

He was with the Dreamers.

[Damaris]

Yeah, I went all the way down to Raleigh.

[Mal]

Oh, man.

[Rory]

Had to go to North Carolina.

[Damaris]

Right back to the scene of crime.

[Mal]

You had to. You had to go with it.

[Rory]

I'll tell you what, he went to Mecca Energy.

[Damaris]

Show you what the getting R is.

[Mal]

The Mecca of dream.

[Damaris]

The energy getting off that flight was Genesis right there. The energy getting off that. Off that flight was not as fun as it was the first time when I went down there for a dream.

[Mal]

Did you go to the festival grounds? Did you go to the festival grounds?

[Damaris]

I stayed clear of Dorothy Hill park, wherever the is. All right.

[Rory]

No, he definitely went like the same way. Julian, you and I went to the JFK scene when we were in Dallas. I know you went to the scene of the crime just to see like what it looked like.

[Damaris]

Put some flowers where the stage was.

[Mal]

Yeah, that's that grass, you know.

[Damaris]

Oh, man.

[Rory]

No waya was on the grassy. No.

[Damaris]

No, I. It was fun. It was a good time.

[Julian]

But there was like m. Stop laughing.

[Damaris]

It felt different.

[Mal]

Cuz Julian would go to the exact location. I didn't go there for Jcole laid his sword down like.

[Rory]

Said a silent prayer to himself.

[Mal]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Did you see anything? Any of the Dre guys?

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

So, Jungle.

[Rory]

I just went to Raleigh. You think I just went to Raleigh?

[Damaris]

You really thought I just went to rally?

[Mal]

I'm asking, I'm getting.

[Damaris]

I don't know anyone down there. Okay. No, I. Yeah, Jungle. Amazing group. Check out the music. If you're not familiar they're incredible. They're. They're doing a huge. They did a long U.S. tour.

[Mal]

Okay.

[Damaris]

And Boz was their opener for their. Their tour. They have a great relationship with Boz. They have three records together. He was the first featured artist on their. One of their albums. Like, he's just. They have a really cool relationship.

[Mal]

Boss is probably the only guy from Dreamville that still with me. None of those dudes over there.

[Damaris]

Even.

[Julian]

That's shaky for real.

[Mal]

And even Boss might like. It might be shaky with Boss. It might be on site. When Boss see me, he might want.

[Damaris]

So I went. So anyway, went to the show. It was at a. It was at an amphitheater. It was very nice venue. E was there. A few of the guys were there, too, because some of them, you know, are in town, they're recording, whatever. And then we went out to a hookah spot, smoked for, like, you know, till 3am and then went home, got a flight a few hours later.

[Mal]

Conversation about.

[Damaris]

I cannot. See, this is the thing when you have conversations with your friends and you don't repeat what they were, especially to public people not saying at all what we spoke about in the hookah lounge, but it was a very good, productive conversation.

[Mal]

Okay.

[Damaris]

I'm happy. I went. It was no, like, this. This. It's. We. The. We hate that. It's. None of that was none of that. But it was really, really the one thing that we talked about that I thought was cool. I continued the conversation that we had here on the pod about. I was like. I was talking to Eve, and I was like, hey, like, you know, Cole's. I'm noticing he also, you know, is putting out records on his own terms, like, not on the DSP route. And we had a really cool conversation about, like, their strategy behind that and comparing it to, like, the other. The other guys that are, you know, doing so as well. But it was cool. Like, it's just nice to hear where they're at.

[Rory]

Can you get permission from them to have that combo? Because I. I'm very interested. I don't care about the beef. None of that. I care about their strategy of why everyone out of the big three is putting out music not on dsp.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Rory]

So you could send that text, be like, hey, are you cool if we have that combo? Hopefully we can have it at the end of this week. Because I'm. I'm very curious what Eve and. And them have to say about that. No gossipy. That's. That's information.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

No, Kendrick, we'll get to that soon said no.

[Damaris]

Kendrick.

[Rory]

That's his favorite thing. What Information. You didn't see. You didn't even read that.

[Damaris]

I didn't finish it. All right. Anyway, great.

[Rory]

Definitely, Definitely Dreamville.

[Damaris]

I'm reading it. I'm in the middle of it. It was a great night. And then I came back here, went to the Mets game the next night, watched him get clapped. That was it. Yeah.

[Mal]

All right. So you had a good weekend, baby. Did what you do. That's silky. That silky pony is working. Yeah.

[Julian]

Thank you.

[Damaris]

I did today.

[Mal]

See that silky pony, girl.

[Julian]

Very n. Thank you.

[Mal]

You still. It's still how many days? Yeah, I know, baby.

[Julian]

We're in the hundreds. We're way in the hundreds.

[Mal]

Way.

[Julian]

We damn near 200.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

I ain't going to lie. We scroll back to shows.

[Rory]

I was about to say we. We recorded when it was 90.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

I don't know if that adds up.

[Julian]

That was like a month ago.

[Rory]

Yeah, 200. I didn't know there was 110 days in a month.

[Julian]

It's been since May. I lost count. I'm not counting no more depressing as me.

[Mal]

Okay, Rose. Putting that rose to work. That rose. Like, if you come to this drawer.

[Julian]

One more time, Ma, I swear, I promise you. It's space, opportunity. I promise you.

[Mal]

I'm just.

[Julian]

I'mma show you how old is. I promise.

[Mal]

My bad. My bad. But what you do this weekend, Baby.

[Rory]

Starts to sigh when it hears that drawer again.

[Damaris]

It's like Pavlov's dog.

[Julian]

See, I'm beating off him and I'm single. You beating off in a relationship.

[Rory]

You.

[Damaris]

Rubbing one out after apartment 200 life.

[Rory]

I've made peace with it. Your words.

[Mal]

Your words can 200.

[Rory]

It's crazy. I took mental notes.

[Damaris]

Clock the baddie.

[Mal]

Oh, my God. That is hilarious. But yes, baby, do your week.

[Julian]

I have. I, I, I, I did nothing outside. I lied. I went to work. I went to Bottle wars and Bottle Wars.

[Rory]

Yo say you did nothing. Oh, I forgot. I went to Bottle Wars. No, you were outside. Outside, huh?

[Julian]

What's bot party? Where the men and women are in competition for who can buy the most bottles and then you get points for every bottle.

[Damaris]

That's some loser.

[Rory]

So is that a way.

[Damaris]

I'm sure it's a great event, but the concept of just blowing money on the bottle girls.

[Mal]

So how much point Physical bottles.

[Damaris]

You can just count the bottles.

[Rory]

That's like legitimately a racket. And also that's getting men to pay double what they actually do. Because I know they have to Buy their opponent's bottles as well.

[Julian]

Why do you think every party I've ever been to, women spend so much money on alcohol? Like, I don't know what kind of girls you be around, but women be.

[Rory]

Buying the ones around me.

[Julian]

Like, women be. I mean, women be buying bottles, then.

[Rory]

I store that in my head and.

[Julian]

Beat off big bottles with their own money.

[Damaris]

I've never seen.

[Julian]

I'll be in part. Okay, well, you should hang around. Who are engineers, doctors, lawyers, nurses.

[Rory]

Where you find that?

[Julian]

In tech.

[Damaris]

They're working.

[Rory]

Yeah, they were in traffic.

[Julian]

Yeah, they're not in the Lower east side on a Wednesday night, but. Blotto.

[Rory]

Yo, you're. You're really judgy for someone that went to a party named Bottle wars.

[Damaris]

Yeah, like, Tamara's over there with a notepad and a tally. Like, all right, okay, the red team's got 10 bottles.

[Rory]

How do we extort all the patrons that came into it?

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Wait, so how. Is there a time limit or what's the deal? Like, is.

[Julian]

No, it's just the whole entire party, they just go. And then, like, the more expensive the bottle, the more points you get, so.

[Rory]

But is it like a middle school dance where it's women on one side, men on the other?

[Julian]

No, they're all over. It's just a regular party, but they just keep. They put the tally up on the screen.

[Mal]

Oh, so you get, like, frequent fly bottles? Like, the more bottles I buy, the next time I come, maybe I get one on the house.

[Julian]

No, baby, no, no.

[Mal]

It's like when you're drunk now when you leave, come back and do it all over again. There's no rollover minutes.

[Rory]

Punch the car. Like when you get a coffee. Like, five more of these and you get a free cup.

[Damaris]

This concept of this to me is losers.

[Julian]

That's not it, though.

[Damaris]

But I get it. But, like, just the concept of, like, the whole thing to me is just a dick measuring contest. Like, I can buy more bot you. Like, what's the goal? You just go home? Five grand broker.

[Rory]

The only winner here is the venue.

[Damaris]

That's what I'm saying. Like, you're not winning. It's like the. It's like what we said about the girl that I had sex while I was pregnant. It's like, you got him back, but at what cost? Like, that's dumb.

[Rory]

Should have bought a bottle.

[Damaris]

You should.

[Julian]

Y'all do know that people go to parties and just buy bottles anyway, right? So if you're gonna buy the bottles.

[Rory]

Anyway, I don't have the Incentive of competition at that.

[Damaris]

Thank you.

[Rory]

Like. Like, that's gonna force people to buy.

[Julian]

A theme for the party. It's not. People are not actually going to, like, yo, I'm really trying to win. No one's doing that. People are gonna buy the bottles they were gonna buy anyway.

[Damaris]

But when you're down 10 grand, it's not like it's. It's not a cute theme. It costs a lot of money.

[Julian]

Hey, y'all not bottle poppers. And that's okay. I'm not okay, and that's okay.

[Damaris]

I get mine for free.

[Julian]

Audience.

[Rory]

His family invented it. So.

[Mal]

Yeah, I retired a long time ago from that type of lifestyle, though. I do some. Do some Fiji with the sparkler.

[Damaris]

That's like $10 in the club.

[Mal]

Hell, yeah. I'll drink more Fiji than any in the club, that's for sure. I know that. I know that for a fact. Can no drink more water in the club than me, that's for sure.

[Rory]

Okay, so once bottle wars, like, wants to evolve and, you know, expand, like hookah wars. What's the next thing here?

[Damaris]

Real estate.

[Rory]

Chicken. Chicken tender platters. Those are great in the club.

[Damaris]

Buy up the block, baby.

[Mal]

D. Kick some ass.

[Rory]

Who can order the most samplers?

[Mal]

Mozzarel sticks. Mozzarella wars.

[Rory]

You know how nasty hookah wars would be.

[Julian]

I'm about to quit hookah.

[Mal]

You smoke hookah?

[Julian]

Not a lot. Not heavily, but, yeah, I smoke it, like, when I'm in the club, which is what, once every three months? Or, like, I'll go to. I used to go to Sahara. Even now I've cut down. I'm just. I. I feel the cancer just, like, growing in my lungs, and I'm.

[Rory]

Yeah, hookah. I could start to feel like my skin drying out with every pull. Like, I felt like my face was getting older as I was smoking it. And, like, this is a bad habit, but I'm. I'm full of. Because even though I don't smoke hookah often whatsoever, you know, justice was in town, and he is the face of hookah.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

So every now and then I. I'll age myself a bit and do it, but it's a disgusting habit.

[Mal]

How was Justice? How you doing, Justice?

[Rory]

Great.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

They were here on some LVR in business. But he's. He's in good spirits.

[Mal]

Shout out to the lvr and crew.

[Rory]

Good to see him.

[Julian]

Good spirits. Some are about to drop another album. He about to buy another house. He's in great spirits.

[Rory]

It's. It's weird. The whole crew is always Remodeling their house. It just never stops. It's adding another wing. Every single ep, every album, every track.

[Damaris]

Well, now that we're done with the weekend recap, can we start with some mess that I found hilarious over the weekend that I think got kind of swept under the rug? Martha Stewart might be the most badass person just ever to exist. She might just be the coolest white woman ever. I guess it's kind of what I'm saying. So Netflix is putting out this thing called Martha. It's about her life, her story, and how she came to be the person that she is. And in the trailer for the doc, they were talking about how her and her husband eventually split up because he was caught cheating on her. And then this was her comments about your husband cheating. And then listen to her response. Listen to my advice. If you're married and your husband starts to cheat on you, he's a piece of shit.

[Rory]

Get out of that marriage.

[Damaris]

Didn't you have an affair early on?

[Rory]

Yeah, but I don't think Andy ever.

[Mal]

Knew about that gangster period.

[Rory]

All the stu's against ten toes held it down too.

[Mal]

Well, she's against it, but I guess.

[Damaris]

She said too, it was more that was revealed that she had an affair that spanned like over 30 years.

[Rory]

And that's a marriage and her another family.

[Damaris]

Her husband didn't know until the trailer for this dot came out.

[Mal]

Yeah, I mean she didn't. She was, she was.

[Damaris]

She's like, she's crazy.

[Mal]

No, that means in the best way she kept it clean. It wasn't messy. Didn't the husband never found out. Nobody knew. She, she, she cheat. Right.

[Rory]

That's all okay. But like whatever their stipulations were with their marriage, isn't there like clauses if you cheat? Like you don't get half of the money or whatever. I'm curious what their divorce was like, if he lost more because of the infidelities that he was caught with. Meanwhile she's across the table and the mediator doesn't even know she's been someone for 30 years.

[Mal]

I mean, she didn't. They didn't.

[Rory]

Like, we need to go back and look at this divorce paperwork.

[Mal]

They didn't know.

[Julian]

Well, I do want to clarify. Where did she come out and say that it was years? Because I'm looking for that. I'm not finding that.

[Damaris]

Not with the same person over 30 years. But she was having, I mean, you.

[Julian]

Know, extramarital affairs over the course of their.

[Damaris]

Over the course of their 30 year 20. They were married for 29 years.

[Mal]

Okay, okay.

[Julian]

Let's just make it clear. I don't want it to make like she had a side for 30 years.

[Damaris]

That's crazy. No, it's probably multiple.

[Rory]

You think it was Snoop?

[Damaris]

I wouldn't be surprised if they. Because the same way in which, you know, like Chelsea Handler went on like her little like thing with 50 Cent and like, I feel like women like that always go for the rap guy. You know what I mean?

[Rory]

I always thought that was a troll until I found out it was real. And I was like, kind of weirded.

[Damaris]

Out the way in which Bill Maher only like black hookers.

[Rory]

Khalees and Bill Murray.

[Damaris]

Yeah, like there's. There's a weird synchronization between like, at.

[Mal]

Least ain't give Bill Murray those people.

[Rory]

Bill Maher and Superhead.

[Mal]

Like, that was crazy.

[Rory]

I mean that to me, that was my like gold couple. That was a power couple to me.

[Julian]

I agree.

[Rory]

Two award winning authors.

[Julian]

But let's not put that on Snoop. That Snoop Dogg's jacket because he's been happily and faithfully married.

[Rory]

Never mind.

[Julian]

See, why you bringing up black men's past?

[Mal]

That's what white men do.

[Rory]

He got. He got caught. Selena Powell. I'm sure he Martha Stewart, you Selena Powell.

[Damaris]

Nice, Cool.

[Mal]

Nice.

[Rory]

I don't know. She'd be lying. So my bad Snoop line.

[Damaris]

But my. But I. Before we recorded, I was having this conversation with Damaris. What do you think? Like, like, okay, your husband gets caught. Yes, he's a bad guy, but you're no better. But is there a difference if you never get caught? Like, she kept the marriage intact 29 years. They did the whole thing. Do we judge her differently? Is it worse? Is it better? What do you guys think? The person that cheats but never gets.

[Mal]

Caught, I mean, I think that's respectable in a way, because you cheating, that's up. But I think you respect your spouse enough for nobody to know about it. It never got out. So, I mean, yeah, it's some type of. It's some type of respect there when your spouse has no idea.

[Rory]

Okay, but also in the same sentence, she's saying if your husband cheats on you, he's a piece of shit and you need to leave.

[Julian]

That's not what she said.

[Rory]

You're not holding yourself to the exact same standard.

[Julian]

She said if your husband gets caught cheating, you need to leave.

[Rory]

See, this is the.

[Damaris]

Wow.

[Julian]

I'm not agreeing with women.

[Mal]

Gonna play some magic.

[Julian]

I'm just clarifying what Martha said.

[Mal]

That's what she Said quote about what she said. Let's go further.

[Rory]

Let's dig deeper.

[Damaris]

That's.

[Mal]

That's also not.

[Damaris]

That's not what she said.

[Julian]

Play it.

[Damaris]

Here's the quote. Young women, listen to my advice. If you're married and your husband starts to cheat on you, he's a piece of. Get out of that marriage.

[Julian]

Go play what we just played. What we just played.

[Rory]

Misquote.

[Julian]

Someone play what we just played ever.

[Damaris]

All right, here we go again.

[Rory]

Are they.

[Damaris]

Young women, listen to my advice. You're married and your husband starts to.

[Rory]

Cheat on you, he's a piece of. Get out of that marriage.

[Mal]

So back.

[Rory]

My bad. I apologize. My bad was almost there.

[Mal]

Women gonna say my bad. They gonna never say, I'm sorry or I apologize.

[Rory]

I'll take on my bad.

[Mal]

Yeah, I'll take them.

[Julian]

I'm not sorry for what I said because I genuinely believe that that's what she said, but it is my bad. I was wrong.

[Mal]

So do you? What?

[Damaris]

Do you believe what you said then? Because your initial one. What was the. The.

[Julian]

Oh, that if he got caught. No, I was just differentiating between the two. I don't think anybody should cheat.

[Rory]

Okay, we didn't see the rest of where that's going. I'll give the woman benefit of the doubt. Maybe she's going on to say she started cheating when she found out her husband was cheating and she's telling young women, you should just leave. Yeah, when he cheats, don't cheat back and try to make it work. Just leave. Maybe I just. I mean, I like Martha Stewart, but.

[Damaris]

I was gonna say I don't. I don't. I don't know. I. The problem is they were married for nearly 30 years, and her husband cheated on her with her form. Oh, wow. It's pretty bad. Her husband cheated on her with her former assistant.

[Rory]

Oh, yeah, you gotta cheat back.

[Damaris]

But I feel like Martha. Martha was doing her bidding because even in the clip, she said she started the marriage cheating, so she, like, she got out the gate with it. He was playing catch up, but he cheated with the wrong one.

[Rory]

Maybe they shouldn't have got divorced. Their soulmates fights. They're perfect for each other. They're both doing crazy. They couldn't make it work.

[Mal]

But I feel like everybody's a cheater, though, in some capacity. It depends on what you think cheating is.

[Julian]

It's him being outraged.

[Rory]

He's.

[Julian]

I'm sorry. He's outraged because he found out when that clip dropped, he never knew she was cheating. He found out when that Clip dropped. And he's outraged that she was cheating on him. Like, outraged even though he was cheating and got.

[Rory]

Okay, but you don't know. He could be outraged again by that divorce because she said it happened because he was cheating. And she. If you were also doing the exact same thing, like, yeah, I would be upset that we went through a divorce because I was cheating and you said I was the problem.

[Mal]

But wait, I'd be.

[Rory]

I'd be outraged if you were doing the same things that you were mad at me about. That need to break this marriage up.

[Mal]

But wait, she didn't catch him cheating.

[Damaris]

Well, he was the one that got caught. That's how. That's how they came to split it.

[Mal]

How did he get caught?

[Damaris]

I don't. I don't know the ins and ends.

[Rory]

Of that, but this didn't put it on the calendar.

[Damaris]

I was gonna say that. Once you're messing.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Once you're messing with, like, the business of Martha, too. Like, that's just muddies the waters because she's so intertwined with their personal lives. But they got married. I'm looking at it now. After Andrew, Martha's former husband, ex husband, and. And Martha split. He ended up marrying Robin, the woman that he was cheating on her with also.

[Rory]

I mean, she chose a marriage over keeping a job.

[Damaris]

They met in 2005, got married in 2010, had a child in 2015, and I guess they're still together.

[Rory]

That. That assistant is. Is kind of wild, though. Like, I'm not taking anything off him. He was married. He shouldn't cheated. But what type of assistant is gonna go. Your boss's husband?

[Julian]

Well, she's seen that. She didn't have time to. There was no time on the calendar for her to her husband, so somebody had to do it.

[Rory]

Okay.

[Damaris]

So she stepped up, and she, like, kind of robbed the cradle.

[Rory]

It's just in the workload.

[Mal]

Scroll up.

[Damaris]

He's 8. He was born in 1980. Robin is born in 82. So on paper, they're more born in 1980. The husband, Andrew.

[Mal]

Martha. Husband. Is one year older than me.

[Damaris]

Yes. So Martha's 83. So she was. You know what?

[Mal]

I don't. Wait, we getting this. This has to be wrong. This has to be. There's no way this is right.

[Rory]

Wait. Andrew Stewart, born in 1980. Martha was born in. In what, like the 20s?

[Mal]

That dude was not born in 1980.

[Rory]

She invented sheets.

[Julian]

No. No way.

[Mal]

There's no.

[Julian]

That's the wrong Andrew Stewart.

[Damaris]

Wait, hold on.

[Rory]

Their kid must have been born in 1980.

[Damaris]

All right, my bad. Apologies. I had the wrong article. Well, it wasn't the wrong article. They had a typo. Whatever. It doesn't matter. He did end up marrying her old assistant and. But then that she was 20 years. 21 years younger than Andrew, and then they eventually divorced. And he's remarried to a woman, Shila Nelson Stewart, and they have five kids. So Andrew's doing all right.

[Rory]

Did she out there shooting.

[Julian]

Did she have to pay him when.

[Damaris]

They got divorced like I would imagine?

[Julian]

Oh, not if he got caught cheating.

[Rory]

That's what. That's why I was saying we need to go back and revisit that divorce. Because if both people were cheating, that cancels it out. And now I need half your money. He got it. Yo, appeal that. Bring that to trial and get half of hers.

[Damaris]

They got divorced in the 1990. It says the details about their settlement are not available publicly.

[Rory]

Yeah, Martha's too gangster for that.

[Mal]

Yeah, he just. He took. He took a quiet bag. I know what that means.

[Rory]

I mean, if she was. If she was even smarter, she could have put all her assets with him with a divorce, so then the federal government couldn't seize it. Hold that for a second. My assistant and I get out, you know, shoot it back to me.

[Mal]

I'll put everything and keep. My assistant put everything in her mother's name.

[Rory]

Martha Stewart's mother's name. I'm just gonna go out like on a limb and think that Martha Stewart's mother's probably not alive, but. Unless she was born in 1980.

[Julian]

But she might have been when? Because Martha went to jail, what, like 20 years ago?

[Damaris]

Nah, nah.

[Mal]

Yeah, she fresh out.

[Rory]

No, we were streaming 3 her a couple years ago.

[Mal]

Three months. We need new sheep.

[Damaris]

I think Snoop picked her up 2004. Damn.

[Julian]

20 years ago.

[Rory]

Oh, my God.

[Mal]

When did she get out?

[Rory]

Wow.

[Damaris]

She was released in 2005.

[Mal]

Yeah, she did.

[Damaris]

Five months.

[Rory]

Oh, my God. I did not know that was 20. Yeah, my bad. Yeah, see, I saw that.

[Julian]

They're speaking 20 years to the day, actually. That's crazy.

[Rory]

It's her anniversary.

[Damaris]

Three. Three. Her five year bid.

[Rory]

She's gonna make some cup of noodles just to relive the feeling.

[Mal]

Make a jack mat.

[Julian]

Is that out, Julian? When does it come out?

[Damaris]

This comes out October 30th on Netflix. It looks really good, though.

[Rory]

Did you guys watch the Brad Pitt and George Clooney Wolf movie on Apple tv?

[Damaris]

No, I really want to, though.

[Rory]

Just came out. I highly recommend it. It's really good.

[Mal]

Brad Pitt and George Clooney word. I didn't even hear about this.

[Rory]

Yeah, I didn't see any ads for it. I just opened Apple TV and it was there.

[Damaris]

Bad at promoting stuff.

[Rory]

Promoted. Yeah. That's where Apple does fail. Peacock and Apple are terrible at promoting stuff and they have amazing shows.

[Mal]

What is it about?

[Rory]

I won't spoil anything, but the synopsis is they're two guys that clean up crime scenes.

[Mal]

Oh, okay, that's cool.

[Rory]

But like illegally.

[Mal]

Yeah, yeah.

[Rory]

Like you call them when you accidentally murdered somebody and they come in and make sure is good. Get rid of it.

[Mal]

Get away with the crime.

[Rory]

Yeah, yeah. So they both have that occupation and a woman similar to Martha Stewart, very powerful older white woman around with. With a little young 25 year old trying to get her rocks off cheating. He ends up possibly dead. And that's like within the first five minutes. So I'm not giving away much, but.

[Damaris]

Oh, Richard Kind is in it. I love him.

[Rory]

No, it's a great movie. Highly recommend it. Also, while we're on felons, I saw a trailer for the Shine documentary on Hulu today, which don't smirk. I think is going to be a great doc. I think Shine has a very interesting story and I think it's worthy of a document.

[Mal]

Has an interesting story.

[Rory]

To go from rapper to shooting at someone with Puff, to going to jail for 10 years to get deported to becoming a diplomat. Like, I think this might be one of the better rapper documentaries. Yeah, the story is insane.

[Damaris]

DJ Khaled's executive producer on the project.

[Mal]

Okay.

[Rory]

Dope. I wonder how much he'll get in to the. The Puff situation because he was somebody that, that did the honorable thing by not snitching and saying Puff was actually the one that shot everyone. But I'm curious how far now that, you know, he did his time, he can discuss it.

[Julian]

It.

[Mal]

I don't think he will though. I think that's a part of his. I mean, then again, he may, in this documentary, he may be saving it for the documentary, but that I think that's a part of his life where he, you know, has decided to leave that in the past. But obviously it's an interesting story seeing that the lives that Sean has lived before rap and after rap. So yeah, I'm definitely, I definitely want to watch this because if you know the story of Sean and where he's from and his upbringing and things like that, that hopefully this documentary dives into a lot of that. So I'm definitely gonna check that.

[Rory]

Yeah. Anyone watching anything else? It's been A weird few months.

[Damaris]

I feel like you guys gotta watch Love is Blind.

[Mal]

I gotta watch somebody because they get married this week.

[Damaris]

I'm telling you, like, they're doing like two episodes every Wednesday now. It's kind of like how they do the release now. Okay. I'm too behind, I think. But it's so much better than the UK one.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Which city are they in now?

[Damaris]

They're in dc.

[Rory]

Okay.

[Damaris]

And it's some weird.

[Rory]

Everyone worked for the government.

[Damaris]

Not many of them. No, actually they did.

[Mal]

Actually.

[Rory]

Most people on that show never have jobs. They're all like influencers or real estate.

[Damaris]

There's some of that.

[Rory]

But they don't influence anything they're getting on that show.

[Damaris]

Please watch it.

[Rory]

I watch because I enjoyed the. The Clay season. Should we all watch and then have Clay back on?

[Damaris]

Well, that's why I want to bring it up. Clay is going to be back in New York soon and he wants. He said, like, if you guys want it back. Come on. I was like, I would love to have you be like our correspondent for all things love is.

[Rory]

It's an open door policy for Clay in this podcast. Why you look so upset, Tavares?

[Julian]

I'm not upset at all.

[Rory]

No. Clay can't be a piece of shit if Martha Stewart isn't. Facts over the weekend as well. Outside of movie trailers, I did see one of the. I can't tell if it's the worst or best campaign ad I've seen in presidential history.

[Mal]

This was the worst campaign ad you've seen in president.

[Julian]

Oh, please.

[Damaris]

Here we go. All right, well, talk about it and then we'll play it. Because if you're listening, you, you should know what we're talking about.

[Rory]

So for those that don't know, on YouTube, there's this balloon game. What's the official name of it?

[Julian]

Papa Balloon.

[Rory]

Papa Balloon. Essentially, a bunch of women will be standing in line and they have a balloon. And a guy will come up and the host will ask him questions. And with each question, the woman could pop the balloon to say that she no longer wants him. And if there's a woman still standing there with a balloon, they end up going on.

[Damaris]

They have to have sex on YouTube.

[Mal]

They use the balloon as a condom.

[Rory]

So the Harris team put together somewhat of a sketch relating to voting and how women will only sleep with you if you're a registered voter voting Democrat.

[Julian]

No.

[Damaris]

All right, let's play it and then we'll talk about it.

[Mal]

That's what I got for me.

[Damaris]

Let's play it and we'll talk about it.

[Rory]

That's what I took from it. I'm only getting if I vote for it. He's on Twitter.

[Julian]

Trey.

[Rory]

It's good to be here. What do you do and how much do you.

[Damaris]

I work in finance, making six figures.

[Rory]

How tall are you?

[Julian]

Six'five do you have a plan? November?

[Damaris]

Nah, not my thing. Hello, ladies.

[Rory]

I'm all right. Immediately going into the. The black Twitter stereotypes, too, of making six figures and being 65, like, out the gate. Like, they can't see. See him in person.

[Mal]

Well, you got to give him exact height. That's what it is. They know he's tall, obviously.

[Rory]

But if he was six'four do you think there'd be some balloons popped?

[Mal]

For sure?

[Rory]

Because that doesn't cut it.

[Julian]

No, he's also not six'five Not.

[Rory]

Not even close. And check his taxes. They didn't pay him 100k for this.

[Damaris]

See, now you're saying this man can't be making six figures in his life. That's.

[Rory]

Hey, I think he can, but I think not. I say everyone in this is an actor. I don't think this was.

[Damaris]

Actors make six figures.

[Rory]

What did he say he was an engineer or some. Some it.

[Damaris]

Well, he's acting.

[Julian]

Finance. But he's acting. He's. He's an acting.

[Damaris]

Okay, so what's your point?

[Rory]

That I don't think he works in finance.

[Julian]

He's an actor.

[Rory]

How much do you think they paid him for this acting?

[Mal]

This is an ad.

[Damaris]

How much people like, yeah, this would probably be, like, three grand. 2500.

[Rory]

All right, I'm gonna really sound like hate. Do you guys recognize him from any other films?

[Damaris]

That's not. Oh, my God, Rory.

[Rory]

Such a hate be an extra on Law and Order. Like, what did he do to you.

[Julian]

Other than, like, do his job?

[Rory]

Nothing. You guys brought it here? I don't know. I think. Pardon my white face. I think this is a little weird as, like, the only black outreach campaign ad, but they landed on this.

[Julian]

Is it the only black outreach campaign ad, or is it the only one that hit you because you were the demographic for it?

[Damaris]

Also, I don't like that you're calling it black outreach.

[Julian]

That's what I'm saying. Like it just.

[Rory]

Who do you think their target audience was for this?

[Damaris]

Black people aren't the only people that watch this.

[Rory]

Who, with a straight face. Answer that question. Who do you think it does.

[Damaris]

It doesn't matter what I think. I'm talking about what it is, okay? Not only black people don't Watch those shows.

[Julian]

Actually, I would be willing to bet more white people watch them shows than black people. Quiet as it's kept.

[Damaris]

But to Damaris's point, because those shows reinforce the stereotypes that white people always think about black people. They check in those little YouTube pages like, yup, there's still this. And then going on about their day.

[Rory]

So you think most of the views on those balloon shows are strategic racism? They're racist.

[Damaris]

I don't think it's racist.

[Rory]

They're going there to check to see if.

[Damaris]

Whether or not it's what black people are doing. No. Whether or not it's.

[Rory]

They're still popping balloons. Thank God. I'm racist.

[Damaris]

I like this ad.

[Rory]

It was creative. I don't want to get his job.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Why do you like this ad?

[Damaris]

I'm not even saying, like, I like it because, like, I. The things I like about it have nothing to do with. With Kamala and Tim Waltz. I think. I think it's interesting to, like, this is a proper use of leaning into, like, the cultural zeitgeist.

[Julian]

Whatever you want for the younger demographics.

[Damaris]

Current. This is an online thing. Like, this is a digital show that lives on YouTube. They're drawing from. It's like an SNL skit. Like, they're drawing from something that's cultural, something that's topical, and applying it to their campaign. I'm not saying this is like, damn, they did the balloon game. Black people got to go out there and smash the vote button. I'm not saying that. I'm just saying, like, voter died. It's like, someone on their team is at least in it enough to understand that this is a thing that's currently happening and it matters. Rather than, like, them wheeling out like this from, like, you know, like, it's like, if Kamala were to tweet, like, Brad, Summer this month, it's like, you missed the moment.

[Rory]

Yeah, okay, agreed. And of course, this isn't the first time that they've tried to do culturally relevant things in campaigns. That's why I started saying, I'm not sure if this is the worst or best ad. I'm just thinking out of all the things that we could be talking about with our campaign ads and policies, this is what you land.

[Damaris]

But also.

[Julian]

No, but see, this is the thing, and that's. They have those ads, but y'all aren't going to talk about those ads. That's why they make ads like these ones.

[Rory]

I get effectiveness.

[Julian]

I've seen a million Kamala ads. Kamala ads. Sorry. And the same Thing with Trump.

[Rory]

Trump.

[Julian]

But we don't talk about the ones where they're talking about policy and all of that stuff. That's not what we talk about especially on this podcast. That's not the ones that go viral. The ones that go viral are what we make go viral. It's the same thing when we say there's no good music out. There's plenty of good music out but we only talk about the fucked up shit and the bad shit.

[Rory]

Well I think there's good music but okay. Since you've seen a million campaign ads can you we don't have to make it a Democrat thing. Can you actively tell me the three major policies of her and Donald Trump. Trump. Since there's a million ads explaining to me their policies.

[Julian]

No, because I don't pay attention to them.

[Rory]

Okay.

[Julian]

I'm not the person to talk about that though. I'm aware of that. I'm not the person to talk to about that. That's fair but because the one I'm going to pay attention to is that one.

[Rory]

I don't think there's I mean you know Trump working at White Castle isn't any better McDonald's but that that's the.

[Damaris]

Thing that I wanted to bring up the Trump went to why is he at McDonald's? He he worked the grill he dipped some fries in his she worked there.

[Mal]

And they found out she never which.

[Damaris]

To Trump's I like this this is a funny it's not only is it like a get no this is his bag it's not only is it a.

[Mal]

Get paid he wants to be he's going to lean into oh you think I'm an this is petty look at.

[Rory]

He said if he would have passed a cat out of that drive through window that would have made it a.

[Mal]

Whole nother seal the vote steal it. It's over.

[Damaris]

He said to a car cats and.

[Rory]

Dogs in McDonald's they're eating the cats in McDonald's.

[Damaris]

He said to a car drove driving by I've now worked 15 more minutes in Kamala. That's funny. He is funny.

[Mal]

Yo I listen I get it Politics aside I don't see how people don't like Donald Trump. Politics aside like how do you not like medium this like if imagine this was the guy that you worked for at McDonald's. Imagine that was like I would never Nobody is taking that job serious.

[Rory]

He would he would probably fire everyone and close the location and then file for bankruptcy and then and then but.

[Mal]

Not if he was then get rewarded.

[Rory]

With all the profits while everyone else loses a job.

[Mal]

I'm talking about. That was just his.

[Rory]

His personality. Yeah, that would be.

[Damaris]

He is objectively funny.

[Rory]

He's hilarious.

[Damaris]

Yeah, but like this ad was this not ad this.

[Rory]

I just don't want a funny president near do I like it was funny when it wasn't serious. Now he's hilarious, but it's funny for real.

[Julian]

Nothing is funny. Have you seen the world? Nothing is funny.

[Mal]

That's why it's funny. All these is getting rich off of us.

[Rory]

Well, that's a fact. What, what was creepier though? Him trying to put fries together or J.D. vance at that. Was it a donut shop?

[Damaris]

Oh my God, that was so awkward.

[Rory]

JD that was one of the creepies.

[Damaris]

I saw you work here. She's like, yeah, like what, how, how.

[Rory]

Long have you worked? Yeah. They're like, yo, what do you want? Are you ordering? And he's like, yeah, just give me, you know, you know, give me the stuff.

[Mal]

The regular.

[Damaris]

This stuff.

[Rory]

That was the creepiest moment I've seen any candidate do. Huh? Yeah. You live here.

[Mal]

How far the elections went? November 5th.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Julian]

Oh, that is very soon.

[Damaris]

It's very soon.

[Mal]

How y'all feeling? Nervous.

[Rory]

Tuesdays from that two Tuesdays.

[Mal]

Scared? Nervous?

[Rory]

Yeah, a bit. I mean I'm petrified of both the results, so that would make me overall scared no matter what.

[Damaris]

But. But you know, are you guys doing early voting or you going to go to the polls?

[Rory]

I'm gonna go to the polls. Touch the people, you know, get the, get the vibes.

[Mal]

Touch the people. You going to jail. That's where you going.

[Rory]

You don't like the. Just the atmosphere of voting in person?

[Mal]

I mean where I vote at uptown is not really. It's usually empty by the time I get there. It's at a school, everything's empty. It's like not a lot of people there. So it's like kind of. It's a quick experience. It's not nothing and nothing crazy.

[Rory]

Yeah. It's either school or basement of a church. It's always a weird place that you would send a bunch of grown ups to.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

That I've felt was odd. But I mean we got, didn't we used to get the day off for election day.

[Damaris]

For election.

[Mal]

So. Yeah.

[Rory]

Do they still do that with kids?

[Damaris]

I think so.

[Rory]

Okay, you tell us. Oh, maybe I will just vote from home. There'll be too many kids in the street.

[Mal]

How do you vote from home?

[Rory]

The mailing. The ones that. To steal the election.

[Mal]

Here we go.

[Rory]

Get Them in the mail.

[Mal]

How many?

[Damaris]

Yeah, I'm gonna photocopy mine 100 times.

[Rory]

Death certificates that I could reverse to become other people. Yeah.

[Julian]

It's too late for mailing votes, I think.

[Rory]

Yeah, I think it is.

[Mal]

So it's never too late.

[Rory]

Also, over the weekend, Tribe Called Quest was inducted into the Rock and Roll hall of Fame.

[Mal]

Congratulations. Legendary.

[Rory]

Absolutely loved it. You know, we can't say enough about Tribe Called Quest. And now they've changed every single generation after them.

[Mal]

Them.

[Rory]

Everyone we love is influenced by them. I think you can make a very strong case of them being the greatest rap group that's ever existed for sure. It was great to see Chappelle induct them as well. And, you know, anytime Q Tip speaks, I listen. So it was. It was a really nice, nice moment.

[Mal]

Shout out to one of the. That was. One of the first albums I bought was Midnight Marauders.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Drop Called Quest.

[Rory]

Yeah. Rest in Peace to Fife. You know, would have been great for him to see that, but I'm glad they're keeping his name alive. So shout out to Tribe and thank you to Rock and Roll hall of Fame for getting it finally right again.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

We got what hove last year. Or is that two years ago?

[Mal]

Maybe two years now.

[Rory]

Maybe how you guys feel about it being a rock and roll hall of fame? And, like, should there just be a hip hop hall of fame?

[Julian]

Yes.

[Mal]

I mean, I think so. I think we definitely need our own hall of fame for our culture. Culture. I mean, but rock and roll is our culture too, so.

[Rory]

And I mean, it's not just obviously rock and roll that gets inducted, and it's not just hip hop. That's why. I guess I've always found it a little confusing why earlier when they stopped just inducting rock and roll artists, like, maybe change the name, like music hall of Fame, Artist hall of Fame. But I get it. Rock and roll fans are stubborn and would throw a fit. Didn't they throw a fit when Jay got inducted?

[Mal]

Yeah, they tried to. But I mean, if, like, for what you're saying, can you not understand it? Like, this is not.

[Rory]

But then there's also, as country artists, like, there's been other genres that have been inducted, but I don't know. I'm not here to complain. Happy that Tribe got their flowers.

[Damaris]

Did you mention Jay? Did you see that the NFL is extending their contract with him for the Super Bowl? I don't think there. There were any terms to it. They just. Just got ahead of it and said, yes. We're like Gonna negotiate something because we like what's happening.

[Mal]

Of course they do.

[Rory]

Well, I mean, so far he's gotten it right as far as viewers, like, they're, they're increasing their viewers with halftime shows. It's. It's not like it's tanking, but it's just a business move. Who even cares about the artist if Jay is delivering? Like, that's all the NFL is going to look at is numbers. I mean, they still have end racism in the end. In the end zone.

[Mal]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Rory]

So to. To remind us all.

[Mal]

Kaepernick still doesn't have.

[Rory]

Corporations are so full of. Yes. And that. And that NDA with. With Cap instead of putting n racism.

[Mal]

Yeah. I want to know how much they gave Kaepernick. I want to know how much they gave him.

[Julian]

I haven't seen him since. Where he at?

[Mal]

That was part of the.

[Rory]

He had to disappear.

[Mal]

Take this and leave.

[Damaris]

Like, don't.

[Mal]

We don't want to see you around here again.

[Julian]

Put like, leave everything. Like, I.

[Mal]

That's it. Don't. Don't have no Instagram account. Delete everything. Anything. Anything to get your. Your, your voice out there deleted.

[Rory]

But I mean, Cap, even before then, like, a lot of the pushback he got after the kneeling incident and then him not getting a job was that he was too quiet. And then they were like, oh, he. He doesn't really do anything for the community, which came out to be so false. He just doesn't promote it. Like he was investing all his money into that type of stuff. He just didn't tweet it. So everyone's like, oh, he's too quiet. So I'm sure Cap is still very much active in his goal and mission.

[Mal]

Oh, yeah.

[Rory]

And now he's just playing with some house money.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

So, you know, I get it, but I see why. Why HOV is still going to be there and I'm excited. I don't think he's. He's missed so far since he's been there.

[Mal]

I've loved every performing right artist. The show was a great. And this is a business. So obviously the NFL wants to continue good business. So they said the.

[Damaris]

The first partnership was five years for 25 million. We again do not know what the next one is, but do you think it'll be another five years long? Do you think they'll extend it for.

[Rory]

What was that? 25 million went to Jay's pockets or went to the halftime.

[Julian]

I'm pretty sure pockets.

[Mal]

They probably paid him for that. Yeah, that's probably what he was paid just to.

[Rory]

I'm Yo. Hov. Getting 25 million to be like, yo, Rihanna. Love that.

[Damaris]

Yeah. Is that.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Included Rock nation.

[Rory]

How about JLo?

[Damaris]

Yeah. Look at. Look at this is. I mean. Yeah, that's really what it was. 25 million nations input on the super bowl show and helping out with the league's social justice program to inspire change range, which is giving out 375 million in grants. So, yeah, they were paying for input. Basically paying for his leverage.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

I'm sure that 25 million went to Roc Nation as a company.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Rory]

For his staff to also be able to hire people just for that program. Yeah. I'm sure Jay didn't get 25 liquid in his pocket for picking JLo.

[Julian]

No. Like, we got, like, 6, 7, 10.

[Rory]

Oh, he definitely held on to some of it. Yeah.

[Mal]

Oh, you got more than that.

[Damaris]

I was gonna say, I think where.

[Rory]

You guys on the Roc Nation conspiracy that the moment this extension happened, we all of a sudden got a Kendrick Lamar interview out of nowhere to even discuss. Not like us. That will be played at Super Bowl. Do you feel. Do you feel like Roc Nation should crumble?

[Mal]

Anybody. The release of this.

[Rory]

When Roc Nation's around, It's all tied together.

[Julian]

Anybody tie that together but Rory Mall and.

[Rory]

And Tory Lane's dad. Did you guys read this article? Can you guys pronounce the name of the magazine? Because I'm.

[Damaris]

Yeah. Harper's Bizarre.

[Rory]

I'm stupid.

[Mal]

What would you call it?

[Damaris]

Yeah, what would you say?

[Rory]

Big Harp. I wasn't sure if there was, like, another way to say bizarre. Like, if that was a foreign.

[Damaris]

How would you have said that word?

[Rory]

Had I not, I would have said Harper's Bizarre. And I thought I would have been.

[Mal]

Wrong, but he would have sounded like he was from Boston.

[Rory]

I didn't know that's how you spelled bizarre.

[Damaris]

I'm about halfway through this. I haven't finished it, but from what I read, it seems interesting. I like that. I like this era of having another artist or someone that they're familiar with lead the. The qu. The Q and A.

[Mal]

You like that?

[Damaris]

I do. It's not the first time it's been done, but it's cool.

[Rory]

I will start by saying I like that as well. And I. I like that Sza and Kendrick have a relationship where they can discuss some of the stuff that they talked about. Get deep. They're both. Both spiritual people. I enjoyed the combo for what it was. I just don't know if. If this was the time to do this. Sza Safe interview with everything that's going on. The way fans demand certain interviews at times like this because sza, being his friend, I thought asked incredible questions, which we'll get to, because I want to ask Maul the exact same questions. I think she's a great interviewer. But once they got into some of the current stuff of what's happening with the beef, they're friends. There's not gonna be any pushback or explanation on anything. And I think there was a lot of fans that were at the edge of their seats waiting for Kendrick Lamar to address everything that's happened in the past six months. Even like Scissor, rightfully so. Was not scared, but like, yo, should I even. Do you even want to go here? And they had a quick not like us conversation, which was kind of just speaking in circles, to be quite honest. To me. This was the only question where I was like, all right, man, I didn't need this. Everything before that I thought was great. And I loved their back and forth. But. But she asked to break down not like us. And we don't even like, really get to the nitty gritty of what that song is about. And then it just becomes, yo, it's because I have morals and values. If you identify with that, you identify with not like us. Like, all right, man, you called him a pedo. Can we get into that? I just had some follow up questions. I wasn't mad at his first explanation, but since we're bringing this up, can we get into the record for real?

[Damaris]

She tried. She said, break that down for me after his initial response. And then he went on to. To your point. The. This man has morals, values, he believes in something, he stands on something, he's not pandering. And then kind of on and on about someone that's not afraid to make mistakes from his experiences and learn, you.

[Rory]

Know, which is great, but I just don't know if that record is as deep as the explanation that he is making. I think meet the grams euphoria 616 deep records, but the one we're choosing to have that type of response to me was a pretty flat out record of hey, you are nasty. And this is a great Mustard beat. Yeah, I don't know if it's that.

[Mal]

Deep, but I. I thought it was a cool interview.

[Rory]

Just don't even bring up the not like us part if we're not going to get a real detailed answer about what Siz is asking. Because to Julian's credit, she did give some pushback. Like, can you break down exactly what that is. And I think after he gave that PC answer, she was like, all right, I see where this is at. I'm not going to pry. Let's move on. On. But other than that, I thought it was a phenomenal interview. Loved scissors questions.

[Mal]

I don't know about phenomenal, but it was good.

[Rory]

It's cool to just see two superstars go back and forth on topics like this.

[Mal]

I, I thought that was a conversation of two friends that a writer just happened to be sitting in on, you know, which was cool. I guess they want to call it an interview, but I don't think that it felt like an interview. I think Sza and Kendrick talk often and this time a writer from Harper's Bazaar just happened to be sitting next to them, writing everything down or recording. But, you know, Kendrick, I, I like some of his answers. For me, him breaking down the record and the man that he is was the most interesting part. Only because if, you know, I respect it, I respect Kendrick as an artist. But if you say he's a man with morals and things like that, I just, you know, again, if things are true, then so be it. If not, then you gotta wear it. But to have morals, to say you're a man of morals, but then, you know, make that allegation that somebody is a pedo. And you know what we, as what we know, if Kendrick has information that we don't, but from what we know, that man is not a pedophile. I just look at that a little like, like, I don't know if somebody with morals does that.

[Rory]

That's. I, that's why I just wish they would have left it alone. Unless we were getting a full blown interview about this past year. Not just his personal stuff, then I just leave it alone. Like, I, I love the personal stuff they talked about. I think it was an extension of some of the questions that I had after Mr. Morale, like, of his journey. And I think SZA got into that, that bag and kind of extended Mr. Morale to where he's at now. Because Mr. Morale is what, three years ago?

[Mal]

Two.

[Rory]

Two. So it was nice to see the, hear the update of, you know, Kendrick's healing journey and that entire thing.

[Mal]

The interesting part was when Sizza broke down, the way that she writes and records and she, from the lens of.

[Rory]

Other artists, I thought that was super interesting.

[Mal]

That was, that was interesting because she said, you know, she's too honest sometimes. She wrote a song last summer that was too honest, she said, and she couldn't put it out. She was in there telling on herself and she said she can't stop because she is bored. And she was like, I like to tell on myself. It's like I have to tell on myself. So I'm not bored because otherwise I'm just like, what's the point? I thought that was interesting. And her saying that she. I guess I shouldn't look through it. I guess I shouldn't look through my eyes. I should look through somebody else's. As a way of writing and recording her art and her music. She pretends to be Frank, Ocean or Future. I thought that was interesting.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

And I wasn't expecting, you know, Sza to say something like that. But that was an interesting angle. Because sometimes it is kind of tough if you're a person that is very vulnerable. Sometimes you're like, nah, I can't give all of this.

[Rory]

Or critical of yourself. Like what I thought was so interesting about her writing from other artists point of view, like Frank or Future is she said it was much easier year. And I think what. How I interpreted that was. It's. You don't have to acknowledge your faults because now you're pretending to be somebody else. You can deal with their. Because it's not actually yours.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Instead of having to face the own critic critical issues you have with yourself, especially when you're sitting in the studio. Like I'm. I think she brought us some examples that said she's super selfish.

[Julian]

Codependent.

[Rory]

Codependent. She's a people pleaser. A lot of that stuff is tough to face and then try to fix because that's a whole nother journey.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

So yeah. Let me get on here. And I can see how other artists live and how they, you know, put their point of view out there. I'll just write from that.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Kind of like that.

[Rory]

I'll go listen to Future and just pen something that's similar to what he talks about.

[Damaris]

It's like that self awareness convo that we had. It's really interesting to see this from like the artist writing standpoint.

[Julian]

Yeah. When she said why am I trying to not be human so bad. Because it hurts so damn bad. But that's the job. No matter how many spiritual talk to or anything like that, it just doesn't matter. You have to be here. You're going to be in the. You're going to be in the either eventually. It's just not now. So it's like, yeah, like why am I running from my own vulnerability so much?

[Rory]

Like it's what you and I talk About a lot. Self awareness can actually cause depression. When you start to be super aware of the negative things about yourself, it just makes you hate yourself even more. It's like, all right, is it worth even fixing? Let me just go pretend like it's not there and just be somebody else. And that way I don't have to suffer from it.

[Damaris]

I'm now the more that I'm. I'm reading, rereading this. I know it was a Kendrick interview, but Sizza is pretty vulnerable throughout this entire thing. She said to whatever she was responding to, she said, that's what I feel like I suffer from. I'm not teachable for real. That's my problem because I'm always like, in my fear to do some like, that's to say that just so directly. That is awesome. Scissors to me, like, really spoke out and spoke up about herself.

[Mal]

I like when she said she has a low pain tolerance but a high competition tolerance.

[Rory]

Yeah. And she said, I don't even understand what that means. I got what she was trying to say, that it's not a sensitive bully, per se, but you're so competitive that you're constantly trying to keep up with everyone, but you can't really deal with what comes with that competition. Like, you may not be built to handle the pain that comes with always having to compete, which I thought was brilliant. And even Kendrick asked her some great questions. Damaris, did you read the part about her mom?

[Damaris]

Oh, my God, I love that part.

[Julian]

No, I don't think I got to that.

[Damaris]

It's in the beginning.

[Rory]

So essentially. Well, why I asked you, Damaris. Because it was.

[Julian]

Oh, I did read that part. I did. Well, she said her mother was she. She's her ancestors, you know, greatest dreams. Because her mother didn't have the ability to be able to be a. And to be able to stand on her because she was fight for, like, integration of schools and things like that.

[Rory]

And always had to monitor herself to make sure she wasn't being too aggressive or being too much of a quote unquote. Like she could never really express herself fully.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Because her entire life and her generation as a black woman, she just had to be quiet.

[Damaris]

Growing up in the 50s, she said, yeah.

[Rory]

So, I mean, again, that's kind of why I like this artist and artist thing. Because as we know, know two, these two are like some of the best writers we've had in our generation. So to have them talk back and forth deeper into the writing, I. I absolutely love. I want more of this type of combo between Great writers.

[Mal]

Yeah. I know the conversation that they had was. Was much longer than this. This. This editorial was. But, you know, I like the fact that they sat down and agreed to have this, you know, some of it, some of the conversation published so that we can get a glimpse into the type of conversation that they have. I thought it was dope.

[Rory]

I thought Kendrick did a really cool job of extending the Father Time song with Sampha on Mr. Morale when he talks about his pops. And, like, you know, a lot of us have that similar story where your dad raises you to not be weak. Like, don't show emotions, don't cry. Like, I'm preparing you for a world that does not give a fuck about you, so you need to be a man. And Kendrick discussing that his pops taught him that and, like, hard work. And his dad was always there for the family, but didn't prepare him to be vulnerable in his job. Is vulnerability. Like, his dad was. Was raising him to go into the workforce. Like, Kendrick would have been great at the factory with the shit that his dad taught him. Work ethic, masculinity, everything. But he's a rapper his whole entire job, and to even grow his catalog is to be more vulnerable. So I thought that was kind of cool. Like, a lot of our parents, even when they're great, raise us for something that isn't really our destiny. Like, it's not my destiny to go be the super masculine guy that hides his feelings and does great on Wall Street. Like, no, I got to fudgeing. Come on a podcast and talk about my feelings.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Yeah. Because to what kind of.

[Rory]

To grow this. I have to get more vulnerable and know more about myself to talk on this microphone.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Rory]

So I thought that was a really cool, cool point.

[Damaris]

To be great at your craft, you have to be vulnerable. Yeah. So this is. I mean, at first, all I knew is masculinity. I always kept the walls of my pops. But the more I delve deeper into my music, the more expressive I had to get with myself. That is the feminine energy right there. So, yeah, the ability to be a man. But to become a better artist and be a better person, you need to also tap into the side where, you know, the feminine energy, so to speak.

[Julian]

Which I think that's. I think that I don't know if SZA had to deal with it, but I've heard a lot of black women, maybe like, older millennials and like, middle millennial black women talk about that same thing, because a lot of them were raised like. Like men, as if, like, this world does not give a about you. I know a lot of my older cousins and my aunts were just like, this world don't care about you. So all the tears, all the softness, all that that you have, you got to lock that up. So then you come out and people are dating these women and they're like, why are you so masculine? It's like we were taught the same way that y'all were taught. The world doesn't give a about us. We can't cry, we can't be soft. We gotta make money, make money, make money so that nobody could tell us what the to do.

[Mal]

So when they say this world, do they just be talking about like a marriage?

[Damaris]

America?

[Rory]

What do you mean?

[Mal]

Like, because I feel like there's people that live in other countries that don't have the same. Because they don't live in a capitalistic society like we do.

[Julian]

Of course, but that's not our.

[Mal]

So they don't have those stresses and those, you know.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Those type of things pulling at them.

[Rory]

And then there's also places in the world that don't have the luxury of feelings to begin with because it's about survival completely. Like, even though America is completely up in a lot of places, places, we do have the privilege of being able to explore feelings to some degree. I mean, of course, there's people that are starving and fighting every day and don't have time to do anything feeling related in America. But overall, compared to the rest of the world. Yeah, this is, this is an American thing.

[Julian]

Yeah, the chasing of dreams is an American thing.

[Damaris]

Which is a luxury. Yes, but there's a. Yeah, a luxury part with, with. You still have to abide by the, the. How this country was built. There's also like the stigmas and everything that comes with that. And you know, it's just. I don't know, that's a whole nother thing.

[Mal]

I mean, it is. I mean, there's a universal thing where you shouldn't be too vulnerable publicly. Like, I think that that's a just a thing in life. Like, you shouldn't be, you know, like, if, if you're going to work, like, and then you're at your cubicle at your desk crying. I don't think that that's a, A healthy thing.

[Rory]

I mean, if it's. Crying is an everyday thing. No, I, I agree with you.

[Mal]

Crying is healthy. But like, if your desk and just crying in front of everybody, it's kind of like. I don't know if that's a good idea.

[Rory]

That that would.

[Mal]

You can do that in the bathroom. You can do that on the way to work, and, you know, when you get home. But in front of others, I just think that shows a sign of weakness on whatever part, like, whether it's a mental weakness, whether it's emotional weakness.

[Julian]

But I think that's also the exact opposite, because I think it takes more. It takes more strength to cry in front of somebody. I think hiding your emotions all the time is. Is weak. Hiding them, like, sometimes, yes. Not everyone.

[Mal]

Everybody don't deserve your emotions, though.

[Julian]

No, but see, but yes, I agree. Everybody doesn't deserve your emotions. And there should be times where, you know, it's like Rory said, it shouldn't be an everyday thing, but there are people who. You shouldn't hide your emotions all the time, because if you hide your emotions all the time, then that's how people. We have all these people commit and taking themselves out, and people are like, well, they seemed like the happiest person in the world. And it's like. Because nobody ever knew what they were feeling. It's okay to share your emotions. Can it be used against you? Yes. But sometimes if I'm at my desk here and I break down and cry, I don't think that that makes me weak. I think that in that moment, that's what I needed to do. And it would be much easier for me to go in the bathroom and cry than to cry in front of y'all. I don't think that crying in public makes you weak.

[Mal]

But you do have to practice emotional intelligence at some point, though. Like, I don't think you can just be, like, vulnerable.

[Rory]

And, you know, I think that's part of the. The journey of vulnerability is exploring those feelings. And then, yes, you'll get to a place where you can manage them way different. Because I agree. No matter what. Like, as much as this is great with our generation that we are so vulnerable and cool with feelings, we still have a job to do, and you can't always be super emotional to get a job done. Like, yeah, it's a. It's a balance that you need to learn. But if somebody's having, like, just a awful week and they just can't take it and break down one time at work. I don't think there's anything wrong with that if that's who they are all the time. Like, we can't even get to a marketing meeting because Jan's always crying. Like, then I think, yeah, Jan should be fired and probably find a different job because she can't Manage her feelings here.

[Mal]

Yeah, but it's not. It's like, if you're crying, it's not. There's nothing wrong with you crying at work, but there's something wrong. If you're crying at work, there's something seriously wrong, and you need to check that. What that is, whatever that is. Like, if you're in the workspace or wherever, just crying, it's like, I let it out because you obviously, you need to. But, like, there's something wrong. Like, what is the problem?

[Julian]

Well, they're crying, so there's obviously something wrong.

[Mal]

But that's why I said practicing emotional intelligence is. Is a. Is a. It's a thing that people need to do, because you don't need to be doing that in front of a bunch of people. That, One, don't deserve it. Two, probably can't do nothing for you. Can't help your situation. So when they say people don't give a. People don't. That's. I think that's where it comes from, because it's like, a lot of times. Times we all have our own emotions and things that we're dealing with. We all have our own lives and things that we're dealing with. So I might not even be available to help you in your moment because it's like, nigga, I'm right with you. I'm ready to cry right here too, but I can't.

[Rory]

But.

[Julian]

And that's. And see, this is another thing too. And I feel like men really have this issue. Tears don't always need to be fixed. It's like, if it's raining, like, there's nothing you can do about it. It's coming. So you saying I can't help you because you're crying? Just because I'm crying doesn't mean that I need you to help. Same way when you see people on the subway crying and we all ignore them and just be like, girl, I feel you. That's it. Like, get off.

[Mal]

Crying on the train. I'm off at the next stop. You about to do something.

[Rory]

This is an act.

[Mal]

Yeah. All right.

[Rory]

He's not. He's not having a mental health day.

[Mal]

Happens right before you shoot up the whole hand in his pocket. Yeah. Yeah. He got a trench on 90 degrees outside. I'm cool. Next stop is mine.

[Rory]

I agree with you, Dimaris, but there are different levels to that. Yeah, Sometimes you just need to cleanse. Just need to cry. Just need to. Need to get certain things out, which I practice in relationships of. Like, is, do you just need to vent or do you want to fix the problem? Asking that in the beginning because some people just. I agree. Just. Y'all just gotta cry today and just get this out. I'll feel better. But to Mall's point, a lot of people do want to fix the problem. And if I'm going through my quiet as I can't also be here and carry your baggage too. I got enough. My own baggage.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Like, I don't project my. On other people because I know they're going through other stuff, which probably isn't helpful, healthy. But you know, I'm on. I'm on the journey with bizarre too.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Not Kendrick.

[Rory]

Who else would you guys like to see do something like this? I like the Rick Rubin and Andre 3000 article a few years ago. I thought that was great. I. Did you see a clip? I think it was Metro and Timberland we're having.

[Damaris]

Oh, really?

[Rory]

A combo back and forth. Because again, it's not an interview per se. But what artists would you guys see like to see together on this?

[Julian]

I mean, the most obvious for me would be I would love to see Jay Z interview Beyonce. I think that.

[Rory]

That they did that on the outro of everything is love.

[Julian]

No, I mean like over.

[Rory]

They went back, back and forth, like kissing Styles about their problems. You thought Martha was bad?

[Julian]

Not like that, but like an actual business inner view. I think that that would be good. But that's. I mean, I feel like that's the obvious one. What about you?

[Damaris]

I mean, I don't want to lead the transition here, but I would. I think a Tyler, the creator Pharrell one would be great.

[Rory]

I agree.

[Damaris]

I would like to see.

[Rory]

They did something like that already, though.

[Damaris]

Yeah, I. I'd like to see my thing. My thing with these. I love the. The Kendrick's was cool, but what I would be more interested in is finding someone that idolized someone and now is an established star and having them go face to face with their idol and have the opportunity to just have that moment with them. Them and just speak freely to them. So I think that would be cool. I'm trying to think of other artists where that would make sense. A younger artist that can.

[Julian]

We have Nas interview J. Cole post.

[Rory]

Beef after you let him down again.

[Mal]

Practicing emotional intelligence. Julian, I didn't say anything. I got a lot I could have said right there. I could have trauma dumped on you just now and I didn't.

[Julian]

I just feel like that would be a good one. But that's just me.

[Mal]

I would love to see. I would Love to see Jordan and LeBron.

[Rory]

LeBron. That would be great.

[Damaris]

Oh, wow.

[Mal]

As LeBron.

[Julian]

I would never do that, though, as.

[Mal]

LeBron gets ready to, you know, retire in a couple years and obviously he's, you know, he's already a huge businessman, but he'll probably become a business. Bigger business person once he's done playing. I think that conversation with Michael Jordan and LeBron James would be. I think it'd be great for all athletes, honestly, especially black athletes.

[Damaris]

You know what I think would be surprisingly interesting is someone like. Like, we don't hear a lot from outside of the music. Someone like Future sitting down with one of the younger kids from Atlanta. I think that would be cool.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

To hear him, like, actually speak and open up outside of, you know, all the music he's been putting out. I think that could be good and help serve a. A demo that probably needs it.

[Rory]

Yeah. I. I still would like to see the. The peer. Vers. Peer thing too, though, because I. I do think at this point. Point we can say Sza and Kendrick are peers.

[Julian]

Yes.

[Rory]

Is that safe to say?

[Damaris]

Yes.

[Rory]

Closer in age, similar time coming up. They're both a listers. Like, I think they're pe. That's why I really enjoyed this combo, because it feels like obviously they're two separate people going through two separate, different journeys.

[Mal]

You feel like SIS is a list.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Not Chris Rock is bigger than Chris Rock.

[Rory]

I was talking about music. Music. Just music.

[Mal]

Oh, okay. I'm just.

[Rory]

I like. No, because you know my triggers. Because now I'm really thinking about it now.

[Mal]

Practice emotional intelligence. Don't. Don't yell at me.

[Rory]

It's not good for a podcast. This generation does not want emotional intelligence at all. Our favorite thing is the term crash out.

[Mal]

Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Rory]

But with Sza and Kendrick. Different paths, but I think they're kind of in a similar part in their. Their lives. I mean, mean, Kendrick has a family. SZA doesn't, so that's probably the biggest separation. But they're. They're both going through a similar part in their career and in their lives with, you know, being in their 30s.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

I like the peer versus peer thing. I think you can get more out of it because people are going through similar things rather than like the sensei versus the. The up and comer that loved him, which is. Would be great combos. But, you know, I'd rather see, you know, Tyler do this with somebody that's currently in music.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

But, you know.

[Mal]

Either way, I'm looking forward to this next project.

[Damaris]

I'm so excited.

[Rory]

Since we recorded last, we got a record and a half.

[Damaris]

I guess the one. This. The one technically, is a single that he put out this morning.

[Rory]

Can. Can you guys. Guys pronounce these song titles for me as well? I don't think they're as easy as bizarre.

[Damaris]

Well, this one's called Noid. It's short. It's paranoid. So Noid came out today and he. It's. It looks like it's the third track. He put three. Noid. I'm just. I love Tyler. I could say so much about him, but I don't know. This seems. This whole world he's building. I'm really excited for this. I think it's going to be a great album. I love. Again, to our conversation about not playing with the rules singles. He's doing a Tuesday release. He put out a single on a Monday. Like, in. This single is more like. It feels like less of a single and more like a. An interlude.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

He raps, like, maybe 16 bars. So I. I'm just infatuated with the. The whole. It's cinematic. The coloring, the. The shots, the drone shots, the. The costume, the aesthetic, everything is just totally creating one does it as good as he does.

[Mal]

He's the epitome of love when you let an artist, you know, do what they want to do and just have people surround you that believe in your. Your vision and your dream. Like, he's the epitome of that.

[Rory]

He's perfect example of leave a genius alone to let them do it.

[Mal]

Let them do what they want to do. I would love to see. I would love to see Tyler, the creator and DJ Khaled sit down and talk.

[Damaris]

Oh, yeah, I forgot about their whole.

[Mal]

I would love to. I would love to see that. I would love to see where Khaled is today.

[Rory]

Tyler's addressed it a few different times throughout the years where his, like, you know, opinion has changed, obviously, because he was upset at the time.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Then he explained that he was happy almost to. On his album, because why are you in the backseat, like, on me? I've never said anything bad about you.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

And then he moved on to, like, I don't really care, which is usually how that cycle goes.

[Mal]

But, yeah, in the moment, you got to let me be mad at what somebody said. But the years later, it's like, I don't care, man.

[Rory]

And it was just another, like, representation of opposite sides of hip hop not understanding each other.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Well, not on Tyler's side because he didn't say anything. To begin with. But, you know, the quote unquote a listers that look at people like Tyler that are weird but have more money and sell more than him. So it's like your goal is to make money and sell records. I'm doing that over here better than you. Why am I weird? I do your better than than you. That was the only thing you care about.

[Mal]

I think DJ Cal, I think that was ego got the best of him.

[Rory]

That, yeah, he wanted the number one. He want to be able to say, yo, look at this. And Tyler goes number one damn near every time he releases. So I always found that weird. Like, even when, like, Troy Ave was calling Joey Badass and his crew weirdos. And they're corny and like, y'all don't play in the club. And it's y'all. Y'all are on majors. Joey Badass was a completely independent artist that was. Was selling out festivals. I think his rate at that time, he said, was 250k. Like now I don't really care about the club on gans of ort right today. Like, everything you preach about independence, making money, impact, I do all that.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

And I do it better than you. So why am I weird? Because I'm not playing in the club. Like, I always just found that that juxt odd with hip hop. But, yeah, they did it to Kanye too. And now look at who he is.

[Mal]

Right.

[Rory]

I think Tyler's already established himself as one of the greats of this generation. I don't think we need to get into that. So I don't think this is really going to change too much of the trajectory. Like, this will make Tyler up a peg pause than he is already because I think he deserves to be in that top five conversation period when it comes to this generation.

[Damaris]

What do you guys think of, again, the song that he put out today? It's. It's circles around paranoia. And it seems like he's entering this phase of being, you know, tens of millions of dollars up. And now the paranoia of being successful is setting in. Yeah, I think that that's just like a financial paranoia. He, you know, the few lyrics we get here, he's saying, like, I can't buy a home in private Home invaders got my brother's dying now he raps about carrying a gun in his car and under his bed, his neighbors want him dead. Like, he's saying all these things that are evoking, like, fear that come with being this successful. What do you guys think about, you know, the actual lyrics from the song.

[Rory]

It's. It's funny, I didn't think too much of this record. I like it a lot. But again, it feels like an interlude and feels like something so much bigger to what the overall theme of the album is going to be like. I don't think we're supposed to really fully understand this yet. I think it was intentionally short, short, intentionally brief to give us just a. A taste of what the bigger picture will be with this project. That's why I'm not like overthinking too much on this record because it's not supposed to be heard just by itself. And I think Tyler has a pretty quick turnaround when he starts promoting stuff. Usually it's like a week or two. So I, I think.

[Mal]

Did he release this one tomorrow?

[Damaris]

I think tomorrow came out on DSPs today.

[Rory]

Next week we're gonna get the album.

[Damaris]

Comes out next Tuesday.

[Rory]

Oh, it is officially next Tuesday.

[Damaris]

Yeah, October 28th.

[Rory]

So, yeah. I mean, as much as I love Tuesday release.

[Damaris]

He's doing a Tuesday release. So there was a clip resurfacing. He had a Nard War interview where he said, I missed Tuesday releases. And Nardo asked why? And he said, look, like, I. I understand numbers wise. The labels always say the weekend's better for streaming. But he said, I don't believe in that. I said, I think people play music more on the weekends, but they're not really listening to it. He said, I want this to be something that you listen to on the train or in the car as you go to work. Like something you're like sitting and consuming in one listen by yourself when you're going through like the 9 to 5 during the work week rather than you listening to it with friends, like at a party on the weekend.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Which I agree. I think that's interesting. And he's like, it's not worth the numbers for me to do a weekend release. He goes, I just believe in the Tuesday release. And I wanted to do that.

[Mal]

So what's your. What's your favorite way to consume music? I'm not gonna lie. I think mine's is definitely sleeping.

[Damaris]

Like while you're asleep.

[Rory]

Like while you're. You wake up and like, know the album.

[Mal]

I promise you, it's weird. Weird. If you play music. I'm one of those people. I can hear everything in my sleep.

[Rory]

Okay.

[Mal]

Like, I'm talking about sleep and like your brain. This music. No, if there's music playing, like, I can hear the music.

[Rory]

It's part of the dream.

[Mal]

Not necessarily part of the dream, but I Can definitely hear the music. Like, I can hear what I'm listening to.

[Julian]

I agree. I used to. I never believed that before, but when I was watching Narcos, I started dreaming in Spanish and I was like, oh, I. I am fully. No, for real.

[Rory]

Or were they just talking in Spanish while you were asleep and you were hearing.

[Julian]

No, I was dreaming in Spanish, preparing.

[Mal]

To go meet the plug. Like, I gotta learn Spanish in a month. I swear I'm going back to Mexico.

[Julian]

You got to be careful what you listen to.

[Rory]

That's why I hooked on Phonics, folded. You just needed Narcos and go to sleep.

[Mal]

Yeah, that's it. But, yeah, I love. I love playing albums like, just while I'm sleeping. Just have it on. On. On repeat, the whole album, and you can definitely hear it. And that's how some of the albums. When the Scissor album came out, we used to see Seattle.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

That night, like, I just had it on repeat, went to sleep, played it, woke up the next day, let it play. I was like, this album is crazy.

[Rory]

I. I prefer my number one way is either walking or running the sizzle joint. I just walked around Seattle and listened. My first listen was just walking around the city of Seattle. I take in music better that way. Second would probably be on the train. Third would be the car.

[Mal]

While I'm cleaning, too.

[Rory]

So cleaning. I. I like that a lot. But music that I've already heard, new music, I don't prefer to do with. With cleaning, because sometimes, you know, you get distracted and can't take in everything that's happening with the music. But I love putting an album on that I've already heard to clean. But to take in an album for the first time I'm walking or running is typically the best way.

[Julian]

Do you guys read the lyrics? So I really enjoy the thing now that Apple does, obviously, where you have the lyrics. I prefer to read the lyrics when I'm hearing the song for the first time. Actually, sometimes I'll read the lyrics before I listen to the song.

[Mal]

Really?

[Julian]

Yeah. Lyrics are what's most important to me.

[Mal]

Like eating dessert before dinner.

[Julian]

Nope. Lyrics are what's the most important to me. What I've. And I always thought it was like that for everybody. But what I've realized, either between working on this podcast and just meeting people, the. The beat and the melody is what's most important to people when it comes to music. Lyrics have always been number one for me.

[Rory]

I mean, personally, yeah, lyrics are up there with me, but I can name a bunch of Amazing songs with shitty lyrics but great melody. I can't name an amazing song that has great lyrics and a shitty melody.

[Julian]

It's because you don't listen to Taylor Swift.

[Rory]

Taylor Swift has bad melodies.

[Julian]

She has some songs where the lyrics are really good, but you would never listen to.

[Rory]

Okay.

[Mal]

I think Taylor Swift.

[Damaris]

I mean, it's just like, pop progression.

[Mal]

Yeah. I'm a music guy, though. If the music isn't good, I don't give a what you're saying.

[Rory]

I'm on that side. As much as I love lyrics, if.

[Mal]

The music is terrible, turn that off. Like, if the music. I don't. You could be saying the illest, dropping the most jewels, all of that. If that. If that beat and that music and those melodies ain't right, it's just not palatable. I can't listen to it. Yeah.

[Rory]

And also, like, with writers that are really, really, really good, I don't like to necessarily read the lyrics because things can be interpreted differently. Like, I like to interpret it how I hear it because I feel like if I sit and read the lyrics. Lyrics, I may not perceive it in my way. I perceive it in what I'm reading. Like, you've never listened to a record and got a completely different perspective of it and then, like, went back and read the lyrics. I was like, I was totally wrong. And now I kind of don't like it as much.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

I can't relate to it the same because I just misheard the lyrics in my way, and my brain, like, likes it this way. I know it sounds nice. No, I get what you definitely thought. For, like, years on certain records, they were saying something that I related to, and then I went and looked. Lyrics. I was like, oh, this is not anything of what I thought it was.

[Julian]

Yeah. So she's five'two yeah.

[Rory]

That one should have been common sense, though. Like, she's five'two why would you think that? She's fine, too.

[Mal]

She's five'two But I want you eyeball.

[Rory]

A chick's height like she five Kamala campaign.

[Julian]

But you can't. Yo, you can eyeball a chick's height. You can't eyeball people's height, period.

[Mal]

No, you cannot.

[Damaris]

Yeah, you can.

[Julian]

How tall do you think I am?

[Damaris]

You eyeballed Damaris's weight.

[Julian]

Yeah. Yeah. Which is way harder.

[Damaris]

You were like, what, not even five pounds off?

[Julian]

No, he was literally, like, two pounds off.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Then it's a weird skill to have.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Rory]

I mean, being the weight whisperer is.

[Mal]

Funny coming from where I'm from. You deal with a lot of weight, so you got to be able to tell when that's off. That ain't a. That ain't an eight ball, Julian. You shave some off the top. Give me the rest of my.

[Rory]

We were on. We were on.

[Damaris]

Not going to lie. I. I hung it up a while ago. But, hey, I know. I got.

[Rory]

We were on a work zoom, Meemaw and Biggs, and we were talking about, like, real work shit. Big. If Big started doing math about an offer, and he's like, my bad. I was still doing crack math, but he was accurate. He just. The way he did it, how he added that shit up was so funny.

[Mal]

But I started laughing because I knew what he was doing. Soon as he was like, yo, too. I was like, this ain't that.

[Julian]

This ain't that.

[Rory]

But he landed at the right number.

[Mal]

But I knew my mind. I'm like, yo, this ain't that. My. But, yeah, he got the number right. Yeah.

[Rory]

Oh, man, that's funny. What were we talking about before that? Oh, oh, fine, too. 5. 2.

[Damaris]

Guessing height.

[Rory]

If you're talking to a girl, though, and she brings up, yo, you like that girl. She's five'two but don't worry, I want you instead.

[Mal]

Like, yeah, that makes no sense.

[Rory]

No, she's fine, too. Don't get me wrong. But I want you.

[Julian]

People are slow.

[Mal]

Yeah. Love slow people.

[Julian]

But, ma, you really can't eyeball height.

[Mal]

Height. It depends. Like, all right, so if you wearing heels, right? You walking here with heels. I don't know you. I'm just looking at you. I can kind of sort of guess if you take the heels off. I look at you like, okay, see the heel? I'm like, all right, she's probably dropped down 3, 4 inches, maybe 5, 4, 5, 5.

[Rory]

Like, you can.

[Mal]

You know what I'm saying? But I don't think that. I don't know why people thought that that's what Lloyd was doing in his record. She's 5 2. What?

[Rory]

Just eyeing some eyes. Height?

[Mal]

Yeah. Like, what do you. No, it's not what he was saying.

[Rory]

And such an interesting height to pick. Like, there was always a stereotype. 5. 5 with brown eyes was used in so many records. But, like, I want that. That shorter girl over there.

[Mal]

And not only that, fine and five don't sound that. Like, if I'm in a song, you.

[Damaris]

Got to hear it.

[Julian]

And he didn't really clarify. He didn't really. Like, it wasn't really clear. She's five. It was just five. Use her. Five you ain't hear the N. E or the ve. It was just. She's so all right.

[Rory]

Lloyd sometimes does that throughout his entire career. One of my. One of my favorite W records is Wally and Lloyd Sabotage. When we were in college, the first time we were listening to that, I really thought on the hook. Lloyd said, my girl likes her salad toss. He doesn't pronounce his words, like, all the way right.

[Julian]

Well, what did he say?

[Mal]

He might have said that.

[Rory]

No, yo, that hook me. My girl likes her salad.

[Mal]

I mean, what's wrong with that?

[Rory]

My girl likes to sabotage. Oh. Oh, but how he says it, it almost sounds like salad toss.

[Julian]

So did you like it before or after you found out?

[Rory]

No, I thought it was possible.

[Mal]

He thought it was salad toss. That was his.

[Julian]

That was his.

[Rory]

That's when I felt seen.

[Mal]

Yeah, he was like, okay, me too.

[Rory]

No, I started laughing. I'm glad it was sabotaged. That would have been a weird thing to say.

[Julian]

You just heard Ma say, me too. You just gonna let him rock out with what he said?

[Rory]

I know he likes to get his diaper changed.

[Mal]

Who don't know that about me?

[Rory]

Come on. That's like, one of the first things he says when he meets people.

[Mal]

Yeah, I hug him and say, yo, change diapers.

[Rory]

Yo, I got this pamper on me right now.

[Julian]

Oh, please.

[Rory]

Do we have voicemails?

[Damaris]

We do. We have some fun ones today. I'm really excited. So let's get into it.

[Mal]

You've got mail. Yo, what's up, y'all? What's up, Mo? What's up, Rory? Julian. What's up, my boy? Hey, dimariz. Hey, dimarius. I ain't gonna lie. I think they should record the whole podcast just looking at you. I ain't gonna lie. Just camera on Demarius all hour and 45 of them things. I ain't gonna lie to you. But I'm from Nashville, Tennessee. I ain't gonna get my name. Cause y'all big platform. I don't need people in my business. But basically, I was raising a child for like, a year and a half. Come to find out, the little crumb snatcher wasn't even mine. So now I'm in a situation where, like, my mama.

[Julian]

What did he just refer to a baby crumb snatcher?

[Rory]

Oh, that's cute. Okay.

[Mal]

Is still fucking with the girl and the baby. Like, she picking him up for church.

[Damaris]

His mom is still fucking with the girl in the video.

[Mal]

Can we turn this on Sunday and shit like that. And, like, I'm mad Because I feel like this, this girl is still getting the, the bonuses of being like attached to me when it's really fuck her. Like, I really don't like this situation. But at the same time, like, I know my mama really cares about the little boy and everything. So, like, should I stand on business and tell my mama to stop fucking with them or should I, like, you know, just let the situation play out and just grin embarrassing because I do understand that like, a child can't have too many support systems, so. And I definitely love the little boy still, so I still want him to have that support system. But like, I just, I don't know, how would y'all approach the situation? I just want to know how y'all think about it.

[Rory]

You gotta take that, right?

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Rory]

That was a long ass life.

[Damaris]

That was.

[Mal]

I mean, I understand wanting to still be in the child's life, but I mean, a woman lied to you about a kid being yours.

[Rory]

Well, maybe she didn't know.

[Mal]

Excuse me?

[Julian]

Maybe she didn't know.

[Mal]

That's even worse.

[Julian]

No, I think lying is worse.

[Mal]

Yeah. I think if you had sex with somebody while me and you were having sex and then you're pregnant, I think that should just be something. If, you know, you weren't wearing protection with this other gentleman. I think that's just a conversation we need to have before the baby is here.

[Julian]

I agree.

[Rory]

That's because. What. One and a half. He's.

[Damaris]

He said one and a half?

[Rory]

Yeah, yeah, like you should do that. That swab, like.

[Mal]

Yeah, like, you know, yeah.

[Damaris]

Can you imagine? Maybe like was like, well, yeah, well.

[Rory]

19 months in, like.

[Mal]

Yeah, that's.

[Julian]

I actually asked Rory that question. I wonder if Rory is willing to share what he said he would do. Are you willing to share that?

[Rory]

Oh, more and I on the same page when it comes to this type of stuff.

[Julian]

I said no.

[Rory]

See, but we've had a similar voicemail like this before.

[Julian]

But when I brought up, I'm like, amara, bro. You're not going to just. He's like, bro, there's no way.

[Rory]

I watch from a distance.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

It's not my. It's not my baby anymore.

[Mal]

Yeah, I'm on that.

[Damaris]

I'm kind. I'm on that.

[Mal]

I'm on that. I'm on that head. Yeah. Cause where this at? He had bottle wars or something. Where the real father at? Like, oh, I'm sitting here and loving this kid and you know what I'm saying?

[Rory]

And I need a refund.

[Mal]

Waking up like, you know, the baby wake up in the middle of night, I get up, take care of the baby like this. Just getting home from the club that. Come get your kid, man. I'm not taking care of this baby. No, I'm not doing that. I'm sorry.

[Rory]

I kind of feel. And we won't say his name. I kind of feel him when he was talking about his mom. Like, you don't now get to get all these great resources from us. Like, to what Maul's saying, if that dude ends up being, like, a piece of shit or whatever, like, now all of a sudden, it's our responsibility because he doesn't know what the fuck to do.

[Julian]

No, but he never said that, though. He never said that the other father wasn't in the life. If I. Unless I misheard that. He just said that the girl likes going to church with his mom and the girl and the baby. Like, going to church with his mom. That's not an incredible research resource. It's God. Like, I don't. She still has a relationship with the.

[Mal]

Mom, and my sister want to still be cool with the girl and the baby. Like, I mean, that's. That's their decision. But it's no longer my responsibility to take care of this.

[Julian]

And I don't think. I don't think she's. I don't think that he even put that across.

[Mal]

No, but he was saying, like, she still. You know, he said he loves the little boy and he doesn't want the little boy to not have support systems. But that's because you can be honorable. You can be. Your moral compass can be intact, all of those things. But looking at a child that you know is not yours, like, you just found out, and you, like, at one point thought that was your seed and was loving them, your emotions change towards that child. You still. I mean, not a piece of shit person. You're still gonna make sure the child is good if that's what you choose to do. But it changes something in you when you start to look at that kid and like, yo, she didn't even. Like, this is not even my son. Like, that's crazy.

[Rory]

And I fully, fully believe in step siblings, step parents. I think that can be just as equal as love and viewed as that is my kid. But when it's a situation like this.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

I think that changes how you would feel about the entire situation and start questioning yourself about everything. Everything. Like, anytime you see that baby, of course you love the baby because the baby's been there a year and a half. That's a parent's Love from what they viewed it. But now it's a reminder of questioning everything that's going on between your love for that kid and your entire surrounding. Yeah, like, if this was a lie. Yo, I don't. I don't know if I could even look at this kid the same because that's just a reminder of a betrayal instead of love.

[Damaris]

Yeah, it's no fault of the kids.

[Rory]

No, not at all.

[Damaris]

This kid just reminds me to always, like, I. Every time I see this, I'm going to think of you dragging me through all this bullshit that wasn't even. Like, it was not. It was not. It's not mine. And then I'm always going to be thinking of you, the woman that made this fucking mess happen. Like, no, I would. I'm on your side. Remove myself completely.

[Julian]

I think.

[Rory]

I don't. I don't fault anyone if they didn't do that. Like, that's everyone's own decision. No judgment to anyone.

[Damaris]

1.

[Rory]

Like, I can also totally see somebody loving their kid and finding out it's not theirs and still being like, yeah, I want to stay.

[Mal]

I love this kid, but I don't understand that.

[Rory]

I don't.

[Mal]

Sorry.

[Damaris]

I would make my mom stop hanging out with them too.

[Julian]

I think. I think hell out of here. I don't know. I just look at the situation and it's just a reminder of like, the way that women and men love children. And this isn't me bashing men. Just the way that women and men view love when it comes to like familial and like, nurturing is just so.

[Rory]

Completely different, obviously, because that baby. I'm not even talking side of you. I'm not part of you.

[Julian]

That there is no question. I'm not even talking about the ownership of the baby. Even in the. In the areas of like step parents and things like that. I just. From what I've seen in my life, what I've experienced, just the way that women and men.

[Mal]

But step parents different because I know if I meet. If I meet you and you have a kid and we're dating and, you know, we're in love now, obviously, obviously, you have a kid. I'm gonna love your kid and you know, raise your kid is whatever, unless I cheat.

[Julian]

But if I cheat on you, if I cheat on you with the kid's father, then what? Do you still love the kid? Do you still have that same relationship with the kid? No. Right?

[Mal]

I mean, it depends. It depends how long we're. How long we'll be together. Like how old Is this kid, if this kid is not a year, you know what I mean? It's like. But now we've been together four years and you and your child, we've lived together for four years. Of course, like there's a connection there with me and the kid already, even if the kid is not mine. But I went into it knowing that the kid isn't mine. Cause you had a kid when I met you. Now if I'm thinking this kid is mine, we're together and you're pregnant, I'm with you through your pregnancy, and they come to find out that's not my kid. I feel like I've been betrayed the entire relationship. So it's a different level of emotion there where it's like step kid, I know that's not my kid. With you get pregnant, I feel like this is my kid. Find out it's not my kid kid. I don't know what to believe and trust from you now. That's what, that's where the difference is at.

[Rory]

And to your point of this, the step parent cheating scenario. That's why dating with kids is such high stakes. You're a piece of shit parent. If your kid has fallen in love with your new partner, looks at them like a stepmother. If I go and cheat, I know the stakes are so high that this other mother figure figure will now have to be taken away from my daughter. So yet, like that really falls on the parents side. You can't be mad at the person like, damn, I got cheated on. I don't want to be in this relationship anymore, but I'll stick with it because they have a kid that I love.

[Julian]

Like, no, but not even.

[Rory]

No. What? You shouldn't be cheating because you know I'm gonna leave and now your, your daughter is now gonna have another person leave them.

[Julian]

I agree, but. And see, that's. And that was the difference that I was bringing up. Because. Because you can leave me. But if you. It's. It's this love word that we keep throwing out and it's like, do we really love? Because when I look at love, I look at love as being unconditional. Love is being unconditional. My presence might not be unconditional, but the love is unconditional. So you're telling me that if we're in a relationship and I do something, I turn out to be a horrible person, whatever. And I, for some reason we have to break up this kid that you've lived with for like mom said, let's say four years, you leave me, you are now off. Also, you're cutting connection with my kid.

[Rory]

Stakes is high.

[Julian]

See, and that's. That was my point that I was making. I'm not saying that you're wrong for that. I just look at that like, do you. Did you ever really love my kid? If you're able to just never speak to my kid ever again because you don't want a relationship with me, then did you ever really love my kid? Or was this a part of me that you just accepted? Because that's not love. That's just toleration.

[Mal]

People that I've dated, that I've loved, that I don't. Will never speak to again. That doesn't mean I don't love them. That doesn't mean I don't. I never love love them. It just means, like, our relationship, our time has ended and now you're obviously in another situation relationship. And it's like.

[Julian]

But they're not a kid. I'm talking about a kid. Innocent child.

[Mal]

But even as a kid, it's like if you're. If I'm. If I go into a relationship and you get pregnant and we're together and I feel like, oh, she's having my. That's my kid. That's my son. And they come to find out it's not. It's hard. Like, that level of trust and betrayal thing is tainted. Yeah. It's like, that is.

[Julian]

No, we get that. We're talking about.

[Rory]

But that, that scenario. Yes. If I love you and also love your kid, but then you cheat on me and I want to leave. I don't want to be in this relationship because you cheated on me. I still love you, but I know I have to leave. Like, I don't think anyone that's ever been cheated on immediately stopped loving the person when they found out. They just decided, this is not going to work because I love them, I'm going to leave. Why can't that be the same with the child too? Because parents and kids are a package deal. So. So what's wrong with leaving? The person that you were with that cheated on you, you love them. But I'm leaving. So I'm also leaving the kid.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Because it's the same.

[Damaris]

It's your action that led to this.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

It's not. I'm not the bad guy because I have to walk. No, no, no, no. It's not worse, but it's like your actions in turn made me have to do the following, which A part of that is ultimately having to walk from the kid as well.

[Rory]

And it makes that cheating again. Stakes are even higher. Because now I'm looking at you like, all right, you knew you were not only risking me by going to cheat knowing that I would leave if I catch you, you're also risking this bond I formed with your child.

[Julian]

Yeah, no. And that's.

[Rory]

So now I'm looking at you like, all right, so you risked me and your child.

[Julian]

I also think that people aren't really having. I think you're giving people more credit when they're going to do stupid things. I agree with you, but I think you're giving people too much credit when they go to do stupid things.

[Rory]

For sure. But we. We are all adults and every decision we make, we have to deal with the consequences. I don't care if you were going into it not thinking you're an adult, you should have been thinking.

[Julian]

I think. I think my point.

[Rory]

The stakes is high.

[Julian]

My point got lost in this and I think we keep getting caught up. I feel like you should not enter any child's life, period, if you are not willing to continue to. Especially if that child starts to rely on you. If you are not willing to continue to be in that child's life regardless of any situations, you can leave a parent. And so people co parent all the time. So don't acting like you can't co parent your step kid is. I've been in relationships with. It is different, but only if you make. It's different, but it shouldn't. It doesn't have to be that different.

[Mal]

How's the real father?

[Julian]

But we're not. That's not.

[Mal]

I'm just asking.

[Julian]

That doesn't. I don't. I don't know. That does matter. No, it doesn't matter.

[Mal]

That does. The father of your child. That doesn't matter.

[Rory]

Let's say they passed away. Let's not make it like some nasty.

[Julian]

Okay, they passed away.

[Damaris]

Unfortunately, they passed away in a bottle war, even.

[Julian]

But even if they. Even if they didn't, people form different. Like, for example, I love Amara. If Rory fired me today, me and him never were friends again. Do you think that I would go my whole life without trying to at least attempt to see Amara? That is. No, because that would mean that I. To me, that means that you never really loved her in the beginning. You never really planned on having a bond with her to begin with. Like, I'm not going to abandon her because I'm abandoning her father. Fuck her father. I'll call somebody else. Like, respectfully. But, like, that's how I love Kids.

[Rory]

I have to use this hypothetical or disrespectful.

[Julian]

Yeah, but, like, that's. That's how I love kids. You know what I'm saying? Like, I've had friends that I've fallen out with, but, like, their kids can still call me. Still up with your mom, but your kid. The kids can still call me. That's the type of love that I give out and that I've received from women. The. All I'm saying is that from men, I see that that tends to be a little different. That was my original.

[Rory]

You think there's a scenario where it's okay for a guy to go date a woman with a child and just accept that rather than love that child unconditionally?

[Julian]

Yeah, but I don't think you should be you. As far as marriage, I don't think you should take a man seriously who is. You can tell if a man's tolerating and accepting your child versus loving them. You can tell.

[Mal]

I mean, some of y'all got some kids that's hard to love.

[Rory]

That's. I mean, that's what I was saying. Like, I could love. I could love you, but, like, the more I get to know your kid.

[Damaris]

That is true. We're assuming the kid is good.

[Rory]

That's. Yeah, that's why I brought that question up.

[Julian]

Because what's a good kid and what's a bad.

[Mal]

Oh, we know something. Just like a normal bad kids. The. They got the silver caps in their teeth already. Dumb little. We could. Yo, I'm not keeping in touch with Lil Raheem.

[Rory]

You'd pop the balloon, raise him before he robs me in 15 years.

[Mal]

Yeah, I'm cool. He'll be in the penitentiary in 12 years. Don't worry about him.

[Rory]

Then we'll have the house to ourselves.

[Mal]

We can't save them all, Dimaris. We got to come to that realization. Every child cannot, cannot, and will not be saved.

[Rory]

George Bush put me in the no Child Left behind program.

[Mal]

Man, that. A lot of you know how many from that program is in jail right now? Trust me.

[Rory]

Oh, I had. I was having a conversation name drop with Jay Electronica over the weekend. You guys make fun of me for going to space camp in New Orleans. He went to Project Star, and it was the same program.

[Mal]

Like, I felt star, Okay.

[Rory]

I felt, like, much better about myself based off the laughs you guys give me with my space camp.

[Julian]

I mean, it's jail electronica. You act like it was a pharmacist that said, yeah, I went to space camp. Too. Fellow autism person.

[Rory]

Like one of the greatest artists of all time. Yeah, the same program.

[Julian]

Yeah. Artists.

[Rory]

But we're probably both on the spectrum. It's probably why we're both there. Yeah. So I'm like, Project Star is way harder than Space Camp. I was kind of tight that Louise, Louisiana. Called it that.

[Mal]

Jay is still in space. That's what I'm like, still at Project Star.

[Rory]

I mean, everything is ufo.

[Mal]

He lives now. Oh, he's in Project.

[Rory]

The highest spot of UFO sight.

[Mal]

He's at the university of Project.

[Rory]

He went there to find the mothership. Exactly. Love you, Jay.

[Julian]

If we wrapping this up, what advice are we giving him as far as the baby going to church with his mama?

[Rory]

I think m. Kind of.

[Mal]

I mean, keep that. If she. If they should know that the. If the mother and. And that. That his. You know, I don't know if his sister, whoever. If they want to still have a relationship with that. With the child, I can understand that. But I can, on the same hand, understand how he doesn't want to continue that relationship. Because it's just a certain level of betrayal there and a certain level of, you know, dishonesty that I think is very hard for some people to recover from. Because I don't think you ever look at that woman the same way again. You don't. You don't believe anything out of her mouth at that point.

[Damaris]

Yeah, I think he got love lucky. Get out of there.

[Rory]

A year and a half. I mean, that's still a lot of time. You love your child the moment they're born.

[Mal]

It's a lot of time. And. And again, you gotta understand, He. You know, it's not an easy decision for him, but it's. You know, that's just a. I can. I can understand if he decided to no longer keep that relationship going.

[Rory]

And I don't think he should feel bad about himself if he's.

[Mal]

No.

[Rory]

Tough for him. Because again, a year and a half I can speak to. This is when you just start to get to know your kid. Like, they're now a person with feelings and, like, reactions. It's not just something that's been sitting on a boob and making cute faces. Like, this is a person now.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

So that can obviously be tough because love changes once, you know, you actually know the personality.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

I have a cry challenge for Mall to double back on his point of never crying. Be a man. Shut the fuck up. I challenge Mall to watch the YouTube videos of the kids asking their step parents to adopt them and not cry.

[Julian]

Oh, My God.

[Rory]

Oh, you're a sociopath. If you can watch those videos and not ball out crying, they are the most beautiful videos I've ever seen in my life.

[Mal]

I've seen some of them.

[Rory]

It's. It's up there with the dogs in the army.

[Julian]

Oh, stop my heart.

[Rory]

I'm telling you, the. The can you adopt me videos, it's called Hope Core.

[Mal]

I don't think I would cry from that. I would cry from watching, like, adopting puppies. And like, that more than I would like that to me is a little more pulls on the heartstrings there is.

[Rory]

You cried when Raheem got shot. That's like.

[Julian]

There's a series going on on TikTok right now with football players from, like, low income schools going up to their favorite the teacher that or the staff member that impacted them the most and letting them wear their jersey for game day. So, like, they would walk up to the teacher with the jersey and like, the teacher start crying and shit. That had me like, boohoo. Fucking crying.

[Mal]

Oh, see, I don't know if I cried that. I'm like, yo, what was they record, cuz? I was like, y'all wasn't. I'm not wearing your jersey if I'm your. Your teacher. I'm like, yo, get out of here. You got 50 yards on a year.

[Rory]

The away from me on the ear.

[Mal]

Like, like, get away from Nothing.

[Rory]

It's week 12 and you have 50 rushing yards on the season.

[Mal]

You have. You can't catch. You dropped the pass last week to go to States. Like, get out of here. I'm not wearing your jersey. Yeah.

[Rory]

Not everything is the plot to Blindside.

[Mal]

Yeah, like what?

[Damaris]

Speaking of crying, you guys remember Ty Pennington?

[Mal]

Of course.

[Damaris]

Dream home makeover.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Yeah, man. I. My family used to get together and cry with these things. These shows were so emotional.

[Mal]

See, Julian crash. Somebody get their kitchen done over.

[Damaris]

There's. No, no, no, that's not it. They would knock down the hole.

[Rory]

Julian, if you admit it, I'm gonna be right there with you because that makes me tear up too.

[Mal]

You is crying. If they get a new garage, hell yeah.

[Damaris]

Knock down the whole home. And they'd be like, move that.

[Rory]

That bus.

[Damaris]

And then it's like, Ty Pennington.

[Julian]

Oh, I remember that.

[Damaris]

It was.

[Rory]

And then, like, you see the kids freak out and like, oh, my God.

[Damaris]

That was so emotional.

[Rory]

Speaking of Brad Pitt and George Clooney, I think it's Ocean's 12 when Brad Pitt goes into George Clooney's hotel room and he has a glass of wine. I think he was watching this show.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

And he's like, crying and Brad Pitt like, are you right?

[Mal]

No, it was Oprah. They were watching Oprah, I think.

[Rory]

But it was like a makeover for a house. And George Clean was like, it's about the kids. At the end of the day.

[Mal]

I'm not crying at that.

[Damaris]

That and the. The one where the boss. Undercover Boss.

[Mal]

That's just more funny.

[Damaris]

It can be funny, but there were also episodes where it would get emotional and the guy's like, you know, I've been working on the assembly line for like 50 years. And then the boss would come in and be like, you said you were talking about your kids. They have student loans and you're working overtime to, you know, pay for this and groceries and everything. Everything. And he would just, like, literally, like, take the helmet off and hand him a check and be like, everything's fixed now. Like, ah, come on.

[Rory]

How many times do you think.

[Mal]

Can't hold back to 10.

[Rory]

People watch that show and, like, in their real life, suspect somebody that maybe they're on the show right now and, like, lean into it and it ends up just being just like their co worker.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

It's another.

[Rory]

Get all their hopes up.

[Mal]

I'm not gonna lie. Will Smith almost got me, though, in the pursuit of happiness. He almost got.

[Julian]

Oh, my God.

[Mal]

I almost got you at the end. End.

[Julian]

I Boohoo.

[Mal]

Yeah, he almost got me. I started crossing Will. You son of a. You almost got me.

[Julian]

What about I am Legend?

[Rory]

£7. Yeah. I am legend when he's strangling the dog.

[Julian]

Oh, my God.

[Rory]

Will has a lot of tear jerker movies. Seven pounds. I cried.

[Mal]

Cried when he tried to kill that zombie.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

I was like, yeah, you ain't got no choice. Only either you or him.

[Damaris]

German chap.

[Julian]

I know.

[Rory]

And that's why I was so sad. That was his best friend. And he has to kill his best friend to save the world.

[Mal]

Like, sometimes.

[Damaris]

He still didn't say the world.

[Julian]

No, it was when.

[Rory]

It was when there's like six endings. He still didn't.

[Julian]

It was when he was about to throw the bomb and, like, kill himself to save, like, the. The girl with the antibodies. And it was the butterfly. And his daughter was like, look, Daddy, a butterfly. And they flash back. Oh, my God, the tears.

[Rory]

Don't ever knew that was a daughter.

[Damaris]

Or son, do you guys?

[Julian]

It was a. It was Willow.

[Damaris]

Oh, damn.

[Rory]

I mean, Jaden looks like that they're brothers anyway.

[Damaris]

Did you guys cry when you Watched. This is so random. You guys remember Adam Sandler's click?

[Julian]

Oh, my God, I love that movie.

[Rory]

Great movie. It didn't.

[Julian]

It didn't bring me to tears when his dad died or something like that, and he couldn't, like, rewind or something.

[Rory]

It was an emotional scene.

[Damaris]

Go back into that got. I'm like, oh, Adam Sandler, let's watch a family laugh. And I ended up crying.

[Julian]

But that actually. That I'm happy. I watched that movie when I was younger. If there's really good lessons in that movie, like, yeah, it is a great. Like, the whole purpose of life is the hardship.

[Rory]

It.

[Julian]

That's the whole purpose.

[Damaris]

That's what Kendrick said in that interview.

[Rory]

And. And don't always work all the time. Like, you'll ignore your family and everything you actually want because you're trying to do your architect podcast.

[Damaris]

Lil Wayne said, I can do this from my click. Like, Adam Sandler.

[Rory]

I don't remember.

[Damaris]

No, I control hip hop and I'm gonna keep it on my channel.

[Rory]

Was that after he said five bathrooms, I could all day.

[Damaris]

Different song, but same era. Yeah.

[Julian]

Do we have another voice, Mo?

[Damaris]

Oh, yeah. Oh, I was gonna ask you guys, you want something like depressed that we could try to make fun of?

[Mal]

Let's cry in here, man.

[Damaris]

Should we go down?

[Mal]

See, we can cry. Let's see who going to cry first.

[Damaris]

Advice.

[Rory]

You didn't hear what he actually said. That we can make fun of?

[Damaris]

I said that we can try to make fun of. Oh, it is sad. It's a depressing voicemail. Or we can just do something that's lighter.

[Mal]

I want to see. I want to get sad.

[Damaris]

All right, come on.

[Julian]

What's wrong with mall?

[Mal]

Yeah, let's see who won't cry here.

[Rory]

That's easy. Hello, everybody. I'm just going to get straight to it. Oh, can you not see my name? Thank you. I mean, it says enough. The last few months, my life has been terrible. I've got a hand injury that don't sound crazy. Car accident, medical bills piling up. I have insurance, but I don't. I don't know. Just not working, and I fell into depression, so I pretty much just been having sex with anything. Went from three bodies at 25 to, like, nine in two months. I don't know if that's crazy, but no baby through the pain, bro. Also just unfortunately got infected with HSV2, so. Yeah, he was Gucci Thurlow. From who? I don't know. See?

[Julian]

Pause. Pause the music. Stop.

[Rory]

What?

[Julian]

We're not doing That I didn't do it in Atlanta.

[Damaris]

There's a high chance it was probably one of his residuals.

[Rory]

Also, someone DM me over the weekend.

[Julian]

I know. And we're gonna leave her alone.

[Rory]

Of course. I'm not even gonna give any hints. Somebody we know DM'd me and said that she almost that guy and was listening to the podcast and was like, yo, thank God. Two years ago when I was about to beat. I didn't.

[Mal]

I know her.

[Julian]

No.

[Mal]

Thank God.

[Rory]

Yeah. No, I mean, you've spoken to her. I said no hints.

[Damaris]

No, they couldn't hear that.

[Rory]

Peach. He has the headphones on. Peach, could anyone hear you talk?

[Damaris]

No.

[Rory]

All right, cool. Well, yeah, you've met her before.

[Julian]

This man just said that he is depressed, broke and up and now he has herpes. Why are we. We can't laugh at this.

[Damaris]

Well, I said we can try to laugh. So let's continue. It doesn't end on a happy note. Well, let's go.

[Rory]

I didn't think this was going to take. Just been on autopilot and I just stopped caring. And. Yeah, I don't want to do anything with anybody because I'm gonna get affect. I don't want to affect anyone and I can't really afford to do the things that I like doing. So I just been working and. Yeah. So I just want to know what should I do? And thank you. That's it.

[Julian]

I really am about to cry. I didn't want. I didn't think that this would actually make me cry. That is so sad. Hate it.

[Rory]

I can answer. I can answer him. As someone that has through the pain and realized that's not a solution to dealing with your problems. I think it's a time to re evaluate you see that did not work. And search other solutions in getting out of this feeling in this hole that you're in. Sometimes we have to try and fail at it to realize that that's not the path. Fucking through the pain was not it. Trying to.

[Damaris]

Yeah, I've tried that.

[Rory]

Trying to just take everything that's happening to you and get a distraction by just having a fucking orgasm with a stranger to feel good for two seconds is not the solution. So we know that now. And unfortunately there was something added into that scenario. But what's done is done and clearly that's not a solution for you. So we can check that off the list and. And start looking at healthier ways to get out of this hole. Because I've. I've tried to find plenty of ways to get out of depression, whether it be substance abuse, just a bunch of different things that made you feel good for the moment. And then you start to feel way shittier and you realize, all right, man, I need to stop right now and find healthier ways to get through this entire thing. That's usually when you start to find the ones that are healthier. Everyone's different. So I'm not sure what that will be for him. But he does know going that route is not going to get it done whatsoever. Anything that's codependence and sex is one of those. Sex is a vice as well. Vices will not get you out of those holes. So I would start looking into to healthier options.

[Julian]

Like healthier options, like what?

[Rory]

Again, everyone is different. Starting with exercise, I think is across the board one of the absolute best ways. I think, think reading is an absolute great way. And there's so much to pick from.

[Mal]

Therapy.

[Rory]

Therapy.

[Mal]

Definitely find a good therapist.com sorry betterhelp.com use code Rory Mall for 20% off. 20% off.

[Rory]

Yeah. I would start there again. It's tough when you don't know anything about a person because everyone deals with this type of.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Differently and everyone has different solutions. But exercise reactions, getting outside necessarily have to be around people. But just being outside and outdoors, I think changes your mood like you would not believe. I think that's a super important one.

[Mal]

That was one thing I liked about the Kendrick when you said he runs every morning. I can understand that. I think I could see that in Kendrick. Like he seems. He comes across as the type of person that likes to be alone a lot. And obviously running and exercising helps with your mental health and things like that as well. Obviously your physical. Physical health. But I could see, you know, like you said, exercising, being outdoors, you know, finding a good therapist, somebody you can talk to, finding your passions creatively, getting into things that, you know, you never did, trying different things. I think anything to just keep your mind moving and your body moving is. Is a big help. But. But to answer your question, yes, you absolutely have so much to live for and to be here for. You have so much to. To add to. To this world. So, yeah, definitely just find yourself, man. Don't look for, you know, outlets in other places or through other people. You know, you're more than. You're more than enough. You have everything you need within yourself. Just, you know, tap into yourself a little bit more. That's what it sounds like.

[Julian]

And. Oh, sorry.

[Rory]

Second, I know that he said he has health insurance, but I know he said he was going through a bit of a financial burden. You shouldn't feel bad about that. Everyone does have those moments. Shouldn't feel embarrassed. Embarrassed.

[Julian]

Amen.

[Rory]

But people that go through, like, traumatic events, like car accidents, talk with your doctor. Especially since you have insurance, they can point you in the right direction for mental care after that. There's a lot of times after accidents, people are traumatized, ptsd. Your actual medical doctor can point you in the right direction with your insurance to go get free mental health care. So I would. I would talk to your doctors.

[Julian]

As far as the HSV2, your sex life is not over. Your life is not over. I know people that have that condition. First of all, a lot more people have it than y'all would think. It is so common because a lot of people have it, and they're not even. We've talked about this. They're not even aware that they have it. And they're out here just living their best lives. Third, like I said right now, I don't think that sex needs to be your focus. Not because of your disease, but because of everything else that you have. Have. What I will say is that when you are mentally ready to deal with sex. Well, first of all, now you have insurance. Go get on. I think it's called as. It's a medicine that starts with a ass lips.

[Damaris]

Is that not what she said?

[Julian]

I didn't finish pronouncing it, but I don't know the complete name of it. There is a medicine that you can take to make you be way less symptomatic and prevent the spread of it to other people. People. So go get on that medicine. When you're mentally ready to have sex again, just you, I promise you, you can find a partner who, too, has HSV2 or someone who is willing to have sex with you as long as you're on the right medication. So when it's time to think about that, just note that your sex life is not over. You will have great sex. You're very young. That part of your life is not over. So don't feel so much shame and guilt. I know know it's still early right now, so you will, but just everything will be okay. I promise you.

[Damaris]

Yeah. And the. To your physical ailment, like with your hand, people get hurt. Accidents happen. That stuff isn't permanent. It's temporary. Your. Your hand will get fixed. Like, to Maris point, there's things you can do that'll. That'll help with the HSV2 as well. But don't look at everything like a pile on and there's no way out. The reason why, to be quite frank, like, the reason why you feel you might feel so bad now is because you know what it feels like to not feel like that. So you also have to acknowledge, like, you have had highs and moments where you've been happier and in a better place. Just know that life again is not, you know, a singular trajectory. It's very much this. And know that right now you may be in a rut. I would also implore you to. If not therapy is not your thing. Family, friends, don't feel like you're alone. Mall suggests if you don't want to talk to people, it's really easy to be depressed and just kind of hold it in. But if, if you want to get outside, like connecting with nature, if it's not yourself, then just make it something that's more than yourself. So it just sounds so gay. But, like, whatever, like, get a plant. Like, get something where you have to be in charge of it and you're taking care of something and you'd be surprised what results that'll yield to someone's mental, mental health. I literally call my plants my babies. And I mean it. I'm gay. But like, it's, it's a real thing. So just, you know, find those things as well. I'm not saying go out there and lift a ton of weights and like, get ripped, because that's not the. You're not in that mental state to be motivated to do anything to that extent. Just start small and I will say, Look, DM. I'll answer. DM me. I'll FaceTime you. We can jump on a video call. I've done that before for some people that have left voicemails that they didn't want. Red, I'm more than willing to talk. I, as someone that admittedly and has spoken pretty openly on this pod, try to do enough drugs and his way into a state where I wouldn't wake up. I got out. So, you know people, this stuff's real and you're not alone. So, you know, keep call back, let's talk, whatever. We'll, we'll, you know, figure this out.

[Julian]

Yeah. And to. And to other people who may be feeling, you might not have the same exact situation, but you might feel lost or feel like you're lacking in two of the areas he mentioned, which one would be sex and the other one would be money. As somebody who doesn't have much of either right now, I'm telling you that it Will help you figure out. There is so much more to life. There is so much more to life than the shit that people write songs about and rap about, which is sex and money. Like when you take those two distractions outside. Granted, we need money to live and that will always be a stress. But when you. You don't put it on such a high pedestal and you learn how to live without much of it, then you really learn how to live. So that's just. Yeah.

[Rory]

I like you guys. Julian, what if you found out one of those plants had a different father?

[Damaris]

Technically, one of mine does. One of mine is a friend of mine. A friend of mine propagated it for me and then I have since than taking it into my home.

[Rory]

Your friend being your surrogate is.

[Julian]

I was going to say you got an IVF plant.

[Rory]

And also he should be on the up and up. I mean, dude, he was crushing pussy with one hand. Like, clearly women like him.

[Julian]

Thank you.

[Mal]

Just stop.

[Rory]

Yep.

[Julian]

It was B.

[Damaris]

To go from. Look, just to break the. The room, the energy to go from not getting pussy to nearly tripling your rate in like two months with a busted hair hand. You're doing something right.

[Rory]

Like, gotta be charming.

[Damaris]

He did something.

[Mal]

You got a cast on you.

[Damaris]

The most you've ever gotten in your life.

[Mal]

And also caught some mall.

[Rory]

Yeah, but that's a separate. Yeah. We're talking about.

[Julian]

Just like he could have had sex with one person and caught that. That doesn't.

[Damaris]

Yeah, exactly.

[Mal]

Yeah, I know. But just, you know, keep that in mind too when you're talking about. Yeah, look, you were crushing them all.

[Rory]

Yeah, well, I was trying to give a positive like people. Even with one hand, you people still liked you.

[Mal]

Yeah, no for sure. So don't let one hand keep.

[Damaris]

Did they all sign his.

[Julian]

You sound fine too.

[Damaris]

So all right.

[Julian]

He sounds fine. What? I know voices.

[Mal]

I know voices.

[Rory]

You know voices?

[Mal]

Damaris. No voices. She know a fine if she hear him.

[Julian]

I'm like Ray Charles.

[Mal]

No Ray.

[Rory]

Why are you like Ray? Why are you like Ray Charles?

[Julian]

Ray had the arm, but. But that's. See, he grab. He had to touch. I don't even need to touch. I can just need to hear.

[Mal]

No, Ray want to know how heavy you is. It's a big mama right here.

[Julian]

But see, lipo would have him up.

[Mal]

Yeah, because I'm. Arms be fat, but that ass be nice too. That waist be small. You gotta get them arms sucked.

[Rory]

I saw the funniest tweet over the weekend. Somebody tweeted over the weekend. I can't wait to see Big Mech's reaction to BBLS in Atlanta. And then I started to think about it. They weren't. They weren't really around.

[Mal]

Yeah, it wasn't a thing.

[Rory]

And she's gonna see a whole new world.

[Julian]

And then somebody reached. Somebody was like, no. Somebody was like, meech gonna be so disappointed when he come see all these begging ass women. And this girl was like, no, I think he gonna be more disappointed to see 17. I don't want hookah.

[Mal]

Yeah, that's gonna set him back. Yeah, that's gonna set him back. Once you see that, Once you see how these niggas is partying now.

[Damaris]

Yeah, yeah, I saw BBL at the airport. They still. Those things still suck the life out of a room. It's comically bad, most of them.

[Mal]

Yeah, some of them are nice.

[Damaris]

Very rare.

[Julian]

I've seen some. Baby, I've. I've seen.

[Mal]

Some of them are nice. Some of them get it done right. They go to the right doctor. They're like, they don't go crazy. They don't want to look a cartoon.

[Damaris]

They all look crazy.

[Julian]

That's them Bronx girls. No disrespect.

[Mal]

No, no. Some from the Bronx, they got nice ones. We ain't doing that.

[Julian]

There's some. But you know what the I'm talking about, Ma.

[Mal]

Yeah, but that's.

[Julian]

You go in the strip club in the Bronx, you know, they not from the Bronx. Them Dominican girls in the Bronx go and get that largest ass they can find. Mom.

[Mal]

But yeah, that's the. You know, the ones that are not so mentally sharp.

[Rory]

Yeah, not as sharp as the knife.

[Mal]

Yeah, that's. That's the one.

[Julian]

Not the sharpest knife in the drawer.

[Mal]

They just think that just men want anything. And it's like, not all of us are same, man. Some of us like normal looking women, not cartoons, so.

[Rory]

Oh, I forgot to tell you before we close. Peach saw me in a rare airport form. Well, not rare. He saw me in my airport form. Like when I get on my yelling at something.

[Damaris]

Who are you yelling at?

[Rory]

We were going to tsa and there was like a family in front of us and there was a guy, but I thought it was just to the line that was at that TSA part, not like the 17 of the lines that were over there. So I start walking, talking, and the TSA agent goes, stay like a dog. And I, you know, all of Son of Jake feelings started coming up.

[Julian]

What'd you say?

[Rory]

You can't tell. I said, you want me to roll over, too?

[Julian]

Rory I would have. No, she deserved that, though. Stay is crazy.

[Mal]

I would have balked at him.

[Rory]

I actually double checked with Peach first because he was still talking to the family. Like, did he just tell me to stay? Like I had to make sure I wasn't hearing things that a grown man just said stay State to me.

[Damaris]

State is crazy.

[Rory]

Yeah, I was pissed.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

But you know, federal offenses, different countries.

[Mal]

You don't want to around. Yeah.

[Rory]

Like in Houston, I would have. Like, I would have enjoyed the state.

[Mal]

You couldn't give me your best material. And not at the border. No, no.

[Rory]

Toronto for America.

[Mal]

Yeah, not at the Toronto.

[Damaris]

No.

[Mal]

I don't. Don't play no games, bro. Don't around.

[Rory]

It's like, I'm an American, sir. Why would you talk to me that way?

[Mal]

Sorry. Just let me through this. Let me through this gate right here.

[Rory]

You know, I'm American. American.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

That was nuts to me, though.

[Mal]

Tickets available now. New Rory Mall dot com. We will be in Atlanta November 22nd and then home, New York City to end the year December 14th at the Gramecy Theater. Tickets available now. Hope to see y'all soon. Thank you again to everybody that came out to Toronto, had a great time.

[Rory]

Yep.

[Mal]

Good to see everybody. Good to see some familiar faces. Good to meet some new people. Shout out to Marie. Lovely Marie. Spaghetti and meatballs.

[Rory]

Oh, yeah.

[Julian]

Oh, she did great company.

[Rory]

Oh, yeah, we need that stuff. We didn't post it yet because it's in one of our merch. Merch bags.

[Mal]

Yeah, she. She did a great job. She has some beautiful cards and stuff like that. If you ever want to send somebody a nice card around the holidays, birthdays, whatever, check out Spaghetti and meatballs on Instagram. Shout out to our girl Marie. She was dope. Had some amazing gifts. The T shirt that the cinema gave you.

[Rory]

So I was gonna wear it today. I will be wearing it on Thursday. It's in my suitcase.

[Damaris]

Yeah, yeah, the one you post. That's so cute.

[Rory]

Yeah, I was gonna wear it today day.

[Mal]

And Rory cried twice on in. In Toronto. Just want to let y'all know.

[Rory]

Really?

[Mal]

He cried when they gave him the T shirt, which was, I thought was dope.

[Rory]

It was so cute.

[Mal]

Then he cried at the end of the show when somebody asked a question. He was like, yo, my favorite thing from working with Mall the last few years is watching his relationship with my daughter. He almost started crying on stage when he.

[Rory]

Oh, that was a really nice answer to that question. I think the original question was, what's your favorite quality about Maul within working with him. And I said, how he treats my daughter in their relationship. Like.

[Mal]

He'S wanted to cry the whole weekend.

[Julian]

She likes black people. But that's, that's, that's sweet.

[Mal]

She likes black.

[Damaris]

To close the loop.

[Rory]

We were nervous in the beginning.

[Julian]

No, she definitely. She liked me and mom more than she like you.

[Rory]

There was like. There was like a few studio sessions. Like when Jesse Boykins walked in, she was like. And then things started to add up and Key was like, do you think she's like scared of black people? I was like, no, I don't think that I am.

[Mal]

So it makes sense.

[Damaris]

It's nature I'm scared of.

[Mal]

I'll be honest. I see outside. I go the other way now. Yeah. I ain't fighting. I ain't got time for that.

[Damaris]

When every black person.

[Julian]

I mean the Y Ins. I don't. With the Y. N's.

[Mal]

Oh, I see some poo shies. I'm calling the cops.

[Rory]

I think that's standard for everybody.

[Mal]

Yeah. I'm calling police. You niggas got ski masks on at 2 in the afternoon. I'm calling police.

[Julian]

It's not even just shy though. It's the. It's the.

[Damaris]

I'm sweating. Why you got that?

[Julian]

And you know what stresses me out is what I've realized, cuz my. My bonus daughter is about to go into high school soon.

[Mal]

Bonus daughter?

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Mal]

What's that?

[Julian]

My ex's daughter.

[Mal]

Oh, okay.

[Julian]

Yeah, deluxe.

[Mal]

So it's a step and bonus.

[Julian]

Well, I. Bonus and step mean the same thing. But we're not married, so. Bonus daughter, bonus kid. But even the, the kids high school. She's going to be going to high school soon. Maybe I think like a two years.

[Mal]

Okay.

[Julian]

But the kids are starting to dress like what they see. So like they're not. They're not the regular young, like they're pretty innocent kids, but they have like the. The satchels that usually have guns in them. But like they don't have guns in them. They have like Skittles in there and shit.

[Damaris]

Right.

[Julian]

But it's like y'all are dressing like these that we're terrified of. So we don't really know the difference. Like y'all wearing like ski masks just cause y'all cold like. And y'all think it's a trend. It's like, I think you're gonna rock. Rob me. So can you just like find a better role model?

[Rory]

Yeah. And sometimes, like, I'd rather be a racist stereotype and alive than take the risk every time Like, I'm all right. You can look at me crazy for assuming that. But what if I was right? Yeah, I'd rather not just. I'll just be racist.

[Mal]

I'll take it.

[Rory]

But there's a. There's a lot of white kids that be wearing them shits that I'm terrified of.

[Mal]

Yeah. Oh, see, listen.

[Rory]

Actually, it's a lot of white kids in the mall where I'm like. Like, I'm. I'm gonna go back to the food court.

[Mal]

I don't care.

[Rory]

I don't want to go by List Chappelle's whole bit.

[Damaris]

The white guy is the scariest guy in the crew. There's no telling what he just said.

[Rory]

White guys with shies. And I'm 14 years old. I'm. Turn around.

[Mal]

I don't care what race you are. If you have on the shiesty, I'm calling the police on you, period.

[Julian]

Maybe their faces. I have a bedazzled one.

[Mal]

I don't care if it's bedazzled. I don't care what it is. If I can't see who you are, I'm calling the police.

[Julian]

I bought it for the Beyonce concert.

[Mal]

It's like.

[Julian]

But, like, it has, like, stones all over it. But it's a shy. And I have the matching, like, bodysuit.

[Mal]

Yeah. Will shoot you in that. Is wearing bodysuits out here killing for sure.

[Damaris]

Nice.

[Mal]

They killing in body suits. I don't know if y'all know that.

[Julian]

I wasn't aware.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Killers is wearing bodysuits now. Yeah.

[Rory]

Like motorcycle bodysuits. Like, just straight.

[Mal]

Like the bodysuit. The American old American Apparel bodysuits. Yeah.

[Rory]

Where are they hiding the gun?

[Mal]

In the snap in the middle.

[Julian]

Hey, yo. All right.

[Damaris]

The snap.

[Mal]

We'll talk to y'all soon. Be safe, be blessed, have a good week. I'm. That he's just ginger.

[Rory]

A razor blade under your tongue going into your. Your gooch in a bodysuit is a wild transition of generations, Ma.

[Julian]

You be unsapping girls. When girls have the. The bodysuit snap.

[Damaris]

You might as well keep all this, I think.

[Julian]

Oh, my God.

[Damaris]

All right, bye.

[Rory]

That. I really like that. No warrior now.