Episode 314 | Palms Are Sweaty

Summary

Podcast Summary: New Rory & MAL

Episode: 314 | Palms Are Sweaty
Release Date: October 25, 2024
Hosts: Rory, Mal, Julian, and Damaris
Platform: iHeartPodcasts and The Volume

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1. Opening Banter and Cultural References

The episode kicks off with Rory humorously reciting Eminem's iconic lines:

Rory [00:02]: "Vomit on the sweater already. Mom's spaghetti. He's nervous, but on the surface, he looks calm and ready."
The hosts quickly segue into playful exchanges about diving deep into culture, setting a lighthearted tone for the episode.

2. The Great Deli Sandwich Debate

A significant portion of the discussion revolves around the complexities of ordering sandwiches at a deli, highlighting Mal's intricate order and Rory's struggle to understand it:

Mal [01:22]: "She then sends me a five-paragraph essay as if she had just caught me cheating and just went through my DMs."
The conversation showcases the humorous frustration Rory faces with detailed orders, culminating in debates about dressing choices: Damaris [04:14]: "If they don't have Thousand Island, Russian in parentheses, then just do ranch."
This segment underscores the hosts' knack for turning everyday scenarios into entertaining dialogues.

3. Apple Picking Adventures and World Series Woes

Mal shares his less-than-pleasant experience with apple picking, expressing frustration over long lines and additional costs:

Mal [16:44]: "I now have to talk to the guy that does not speak English, only speaks deli meats."
The conversation shifts to the exorbitant prices of World Series tickets, with the hosts lamenting the challenges of securing affordable seats: Julian [23:25]: "Game 3 at Yankee Stadium is poised to be nearly the most expensive in World Series history."
They discuss strategies like parking in Jersey and the logistical hurdles of attending high-priced events.

4. Grammys and the Hip-Hop Genre Controversy

A heated debate ensues over genre classifications at the Grammys, especially concerning hip-hop. The hosts critique the categorization of Tommy Richmond's "Million Dollar Baby" as a hip-hop song:

Rory [32:09]: "It's not. That's not a hip hop record."
Mal and Damaris express concerns about the Grammy board's understanding of hip-hop, arguing that songs outside traditional boundaries are miscategorized for strategic wins. The discussion emphasizes the need for clearer genre definitions and greater representation from the hip-hop community within award committees.

5. Celebrity Political Activism

The hosts delve into the role of celebrities in politics, questioning the authenticity and impact of figures like Beyoncé endorsing political candidates:

Rory [53:04]: "See how they're holding it? Like, nah, we ain't fucking with that."
Julian and Mal debate whether celebrity endorsements genuinely influence voting behaviors or merely serve as targeted advertising to specific demographics.

6. Movie Chats: Finding Nemo and Inside Out

A lighter segment includes discussions about beloved animated films. Rory reminisces about "Finding Nemo" and its personal impact:

Rory [73:00]: "I went to school with my cousins, and they used to tell me, hey, Chemo, go find your dad."
The hosts also explore "Inside Out," dissecting its portrayal of emotions and teenage struggles, blending humor with thoughtful commentary on mental health.

7. Listener Call-In: Dating Dilemmas

A listener from Baltimore, referred to as "Chemo," shares his challenges with dating while being financially strained. The hosts offer blunt yet supportive advice:

Rory [97:53]: "Cause she in that group chat she done took. Cause she done snapped a picture while that was head down in that sushi. Sent that to the group chat."
The segment highlights the hosts' candid approach to real-life issues, blending humor with practical suggestions.

8. Closing Remarks and Upcoming Events

As the episode winds down, the hosts share updates on upcoming events, including a listening party by Tyler, the Creator, and their plans to attend shows in Atlanta and New York City. They wrap up with playful teasing and reminders to subscribe to their Patreon for more exclusive content.

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Notable Quotes:

• Rory [00:02]: "Vomit on the sweater already. Mom's spaghetti. He's nervous, but on the surface, he looks calm and ready."
• Damaris [04:14]: "If they don't have Thousand Island, Russian in parentheses, then just do ranch."
• Rory [32:09]: "It's not. That's not a hip hop record."
• Mal [22:03]: "But he is self-aware. He did not say, hey, I'm trying to holler. He said, I have friends that I think would make sense for you."

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Conclusion: Episode 314 of New Rory & MAL offers a blend of humor, cultural critique, and candid conversations about everyday challenges. From the intricacies of deli orders to the complexities of genre classifications in the Grammys, the hosts engage listeners with their unique perspectives and entertaining banter. Whether discussing politics, movies, or personal dilemmas, Rory, Mal, Julian, and Damaris create an engaging narrative that's both relatable and thought-provoking.

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For more insightful discussions and exclusive content, subscribe to New Rory & MAL on Patreon and stay tuned for upcoming episodes.

Transcript

[Rory]

Ar heavy.

[Mal]

Encourage people to get there.

[Rory]

Vomit on the sweater already. Mom's spaghetti. He's nervous, but on the surface, he looks calm and ready. What? That's Eminem, not Martin Luther.

[Julian]

The King.

[Damaris]

The King.

[Mal]

No worry. Welcome back. I am excited. Cannot wait to get inside the culture. Get all up in there, finger the culture on this beautiful day.

[Julian]

Knee deep in culture Mall.

[Rory]

Yo, listen.

[Mal]

Did that make you uncomfortable?

[Rory]

No, no. I'm learning to just, like, let people speak. And I'm just like. I'm just listening.

[Mal]

What I thought.

[Rory]

No, I'm just listening.

[Mal]

Start with some energy. Get everyone excited.

[Rory]

Yeah, yeah, you know, see, you look excited.

[Mal]

Give. Give the culture a little shocker.

[Rory]

Listen, that's what I'm here for, man.

[Julian]

Two in the cult, one in the. Sure.

[Mal]

Before. What does that even mean?

[Rory]

I don't know. It doesn't. He's going through something. I don't know.

[Mal]

Going through something right now.

[Rory]

Go, liberty something.

[Mal]

6081 days. I'm going through something right now. Or whatever that part is. That's crazy to count down all those days, but it's like count we have. We have to heal. Speaking of Damaris, not her sex life, but speaking of Damaris, I have to ask you more. I think the Marisol might be an that.

[Rory]

All right. So you just came to that conclusion today? Yeah. Why today?

[Mal]

It took. Maybe I've just, like, had this blindfold friendship to her and never thought she was really an. I was on my way to the deli before we recorded, and she texted me and said, hey, can you get me some food while you're out there? I said, yeah, of course. I'm at the deli. What do you want? I don't think much of it.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

She then sends me a five paragraph essay as if she had just caught me cheating and just went through my DMs. She said yes. First of all, how do you order a deli sandwich? Let's start there.

[Damaris]

Yeah, Ma, what's your order?

[Mal]

Let's go there first.

[Rory]

My go to used to be turkey and cheese, lettuce, tomato, salt, pepper, oil, vinegar, a little bit of mayo.

[Mal]

Standard.

[Julian]

Okay.

[Rory]

Toast the bread if you can toast it.

[Damaris]

Sounds exactly like my order.

[Mal]

If you were to ask me to go get a sandwich. Just saying, turkey, cheese, lettuce, tomato, oil, vinegar, mayo, hot, easy. I'd probably be getting the exact same order, so I'll just order two. I'm thinking no good deed goes unpunished. I understand how Jay felt after he gave money to Columbine. I get it. She Said chipotle chicken breast slash or chipotle turkey breast. Already out the gate. I'm like, all right now, now I have an errand to run. You just give me a chore. I now have to talk to the guy that does not speak English, only speaks deli meats.

[Rory]

But I know, ok, I know how to do that.

[Mal]

He only speaks what's on the menu.

[Rory]

Ok, but that's just either chipotle chicken or turkey.

[Mal]

Now I have to have a conversation with him.

[Julian]

Nah, because now you're talking specialized proteins. These aren't. These aren't regular.

[Rory]

Well, you either say bor. They actually kind of turkey or chicken, where they see either boar's head or.

[Mal]

The chipotle part didn't bother me. So now I have to ask a guy behind a Dell. He's already on the grill with three other orders. Now I gotta scream over to him, do you have chipotle chicken or chipotle turkey?

[Damaris]

No, you don't.

[Mal]

Out the gate.

[Damaris]

Oh my God, he's so dramatic. You say, hey, when he asks what you want. I want chipotle chicken. The only way you go to chipotle turkey is if he says, I don't have chipotle chicken. That would be like common sense to most people. The same way you discovered that I am an. I discovered that you are really dramatic.

[Mal]

You're just discovering that I am. I am close to dyslexic of all. She put a slash and then. Or you all up.

[Rory]

Cuz now you don't even know how to.

[Mal]

Or I don't. And also I don't know. Is that saying chipotle chicken breast slash.

[Rory]

Chipotle half and half?

[Mal]

Yeah. Like do you want both there? Or provolone lettuce, Thousand island dressing. Not going to judge you. Light red onion. You want me to add the extra word of light? I'm saying red onion.

[Rory]

So light means not too much. Red onion.

[Mal]

Light red onion, light banana peppers. Then in parentheses, spicy if they have them. Spicy banana peppers, light banana peppers, spicy if they have them.

[Rory]

Light, meaning not too much. Yes. Okay.

[Mal]

Salt, pepper, toasted, slash grilled, hot.

[Damaris]

Basically, I had to break it down for you because very obviously you're a little slow.

[Julian]

You couldn't just say toasted with Rory?

[Damaris]

No, he'd think I want them to.

[Mal]

If I go in and get a turkey, cheese, lettuce, tomato, mayo, hot, simple, simple, deli order. Hot. Oh, so so toasted, grilled, hot, Basically.

[Rory]

So, so, all right, so I see.

[Julian]

Just say hot.

[Mal]

Then after I order, I say, Jesus Christ, this is an asshole order. Time passes, then she goes. If they don't have Thousand Island, Russian in parentheses, then just do ranch.

[Damaris]

If they. First of all, if they don't have.

[Mal]

It, is she an asshole? If someone's going to go get you a sandwich, ask for a turkey and cheese and just accept what you.

[Damaris]

Turkey and cheese. If you want to get me something, then get me something I'm actually going to eat or otherwise it for me. Or are you doing it for your ease?

[Rory]

I'm not mad at that, but putting ranch on a sandwich is crazy. Let's just. Let's start there. Like, who the puts.

[Damaris]

I only do that if it's chipotle chicken. Because it's chicken. You can have a sandwich with ranch on it if it's chicken.

[Mal]

Okay, but what does. If they don't have Thousand island, then in parentheses, Russian, because Russian do rent.

[Damaris]

Because Russian and Thousand island dressing is the same thing.

[Mal]

Oh, I thought they were a little different.

[Damaris]

No, that's French. Russian and Thousand island are basically the same thing.

[Rory]

Okay, she put you on.

[Mal]

I guess. I think they're different.

[Damaris]

But the only reason why it was typed out like that is because I know that Rory is slow and hard of reading. Yes, so. And he doesn't have much common sense. So that's why, first of all, I.

[Mal]

Can'T read, but I do have common sense.

[Rory]

See how much we find out about people.

[Damaris]

You don't have common sense because, first.

[Mal]

Of all, I didn't fuck the order up.

[Rory]

She reading you? She like. You know what? Now that I think about it, Rory just doesn't have any common.

[Mal]

I had. I had to get the manager, but I got the right order.

[Rory]

Okay, you had to speak to the guy that above and down the grill.

[Julian]

Russian and Thousand island are different, by the way.

[Mal]

Thank you. All right.

[Damaris]

How different?

[Julian]

The. The ingredients are different. So they're different.

[Mal]

Okay, I would like an apology.

[Julian]

Russian dressing is spicier and less sweet than Thousand island dressing.

[Rory]

Okay, but then I would like an apology. But then Damaris wanted also ranch. Throw the ranch on top of that to kind of, like, offset some of the spices. I get it.

[Damaris]

No, just ranch. If they didn't have what I'll ask for. But Rory's thing is this. He's like. You type the whole paragraph. I put lettuce inter Russian Island. I mean, Thousand island inter. Like, it wasn't a whole paragraph. I just put it line by line so that he couldn't misread it.

[Rory]

So she tried to give you a step by step of how to order it to help you out through your dyslexia.

[Mal]

Okay.

[Rory]

But I think what happens is we now understand the difference in how white people order sandwiches and how black people order.

[Damaris]

Julian told me to go up there. He's like, you just go up there. They have sandwiches listed. You just go up there and ask for the sandwich you want. I said, you want me to go into a deli in New York? You want me to go to a deli in New York City and say, hey, can I have a number three?

[Julian]

No, they have names, rookie. No, you say, I'll take this the Soho.

[Mal]

Well, it depends.

[Julian]

Get the out of here.

[Mal]

Let me get the Hamilton Heights.

[Rory]

Wait, wait.

[Julian]

We're not killing me over this.

[Rory]

Say at the deli. Let me get the Soho. Go.

[Julian]

Go to the one right outside the studio that we all go to.

[Rory]

What is the Soho?

[Julian]

I don't know. It varies depending on where you are.

[Mal]

If you're in Soho or not.

[Julian]

Yeah, the M O Mart over on, like, Prince Spring, whatever. That one, the Soho there is fantastic. It's a great.

[Rory]

Well, I've never, You know how many delis I've ordered in my life. I've never once asked somebody, yo, let me get this.

[Julian]

You're just getting lettuce and bread again.

[Rory]

No, this is when I used to really like, you know what I'm saying? Being them delis. My.

[Mal]

When you asked to get it the.

[Rory]

Aki way, I was really in them delis.

[Mal]

You know, I used to really be.

[Rory]

In them delis, man.

[Mal]

Well, there are some delis, like specialized that do have sandwiches like they name them. And college deli is all like, custom sandwich.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

People don't go in there and ask for a custom order.

[Rory]

You.

[Mal]

You order one of their specials.

[Rory]

Yeah, yeah. That's to kind of hurry up the orders. Like, they'll. I get that.

[Julian]

And most deli just name like the common ones after. That's what I'm saying. Like, it's just all the shit that people.

[Rory]

Turkey and cheese would be the Soho.

[Mal]

I feel like what demerit was white people. Like, that's white people to me.

[Damaris]

How is that Once you bring in.

[Mal]

The word, like friend is about to do a favor for you. You put things in, like light red onions, light banana peppers, spicy.

[Damaris]

If they know it was that hard.

[Mal]

So what was I supposed to do with the light?

[Julian]

Should I like, go back there and.

[Mal]

Look through the glass or try to get over the counter to make sure What. What warrants it?

[Rory]

No, I mean, if you say light, they. They know that means not too much, not too heavy. Have you been? No, not that one. I never. I never been to that one.

[Mal]

Go say any other word besides turkey, ham, cheese, lettuce, tomato, and see. See how far you get in a conversation?

[Damaris]

But yet somehow the sandwich came out perfect. Like I knew it would.

[Julian]

Homie that runs a cashier there, friend.

[Mal]

And had to make sure he was going through step by step. We literally had to. I said the full order and I said, you're probably going to want to write this down. He ignored that. Started like he heard everything, got the bread, and then I had to go every single step. Say it a few more times.

[Rory]

Oh, that's normal, though. They're the first time for sure. Come back and be like, all right, what you want?

[Damaris]

Exactly.

[Rory]

Like I just told you my whole order. But let's do it again. Fuck it.

[Mal]

This one.

[Damaris]

Rory's mad because I didn't get mayonnaise on my sandwich. That's where I'm getting at. It's starting to feel racist.

[Mal]

I just started eating mayo for the first time in 34 years.

[Damaris]

Just start what you used to put on your sandwich.

[Mal]

I like oil and vinegar.

[Rory]

Oil and vinegar. That's it. No mayo. Never.

[Mal]

I was never a mayo. Now I love mayo. I don't know what happened.

[Rory]

Mayo is amazing on a sandwich, bro.

[Damaris]

Yeah, now I've gotten older. I started to like mayo, but I.

[Rory]

Put mayo on everything Burger.

[Mal]

I'm. I cannot believe I went this long without mayo. Yeah, I love it on burger.

[Rory]

Like, how did you eat a burger without mayo?

[Julian]

I like making an.

[Mal]

As a kid, like, you may not like, or you think you may not like something. I didn't hear.

[Rory]

Hold on, man. Hold on.

[Julian]

It's not a weird.

[Rory]

What's up, man? How you feeling today, fam?

[Julian]

We're not going to pretend like aiolis aren't nice.

[Rory]

Cuz you're not going to just throw aioli into our compost.

[Damaris]

It's spiced up mayonnaise.

[Julian]

It's just ketchup cut with mayonnaise.

[Mal]

Yeah, I know, but like.

[Julian]

Or like whatever. Condiment.

[Mal]

Standard condiments in a sandwich. Like that's. That's over here.

[Julian]

You don't go to. So when you go to a restaurant, you order a burger, you don't get a side of ketchup and a side of mayonnaise and then mix them and make an aioli.

[Damaris]

You don't do that well.

[Julian]

It's like.

[Rory]

It's like Dominicans up town called a catch a mayo.

[Julian]

That too.

[Rory]

Mayo.

[Julian]

The point is, you got to cut it with mayonnaise. It's great.

[Rory]

Pretty much.

[Julian]

It's not. Technically, it's not an aioli, but Aioli. Hey, I'll take the Soho.

[Rory]

I'll take the Soho with aioli on the side.

[Mal]

That was funny, what Julian's talking about, because I was in that deli when I was. When I was waiting for demerito Jimmy from Barbershop coffee order. I was looking in the. The glass, and they had, like, the nyc, and it was roast beef, avocado, lettuce, tomato. I said, what about that? Is New York?

[Rory]

Yeah. No, nothing about New York is avocado in a sandwich.

[Julian]

Yeah, that's Cali.

[Rory]

Yeah. That's not a New York thing.

[Mal]

That's the NYC at that deli.

[Rory]

Yeah. So that's why you can't just go in and say, give me the Soho.

[Julian]

Well, you read.

[Rory]

By the time you get upstairs, you crack your sandwich over. You got avocado all over. You're like, all right, what the fuck is this? Then?

[Mal]

You're in Soho.

[Rory]

Yeah. That means now you're in Soho.

[Mal]

What. What's your deli order now that you're vegan?

[Rory]

I don't. I don't eat the delis no more. But they got vegan delis, though.

[Julian]

You can get a good smoothie at a deli.

[Rory]

They got.

[Mal]

They got.

[Rory]

They got vegan delis popping up, like, more. More frequently. I'm starting to see a lot of vegan delis.

[Mal]

What do they give you at a vegan deli?

[Rory]

They just have, like, a lot of them have mushrooms, like, fried mushrooms. Some of them fried the mushrooms. Some of them have, like, the impossible patties that they chop up if you want to chop cheese.

[Mal]

That's another thing I hated as a kid that I love. Now I do not believe, like, mushrooms have been around, and I wasn't aware.

[Rory]

How delicious mushrooms is. Great Mushrooms is fire, man.

[Mal]

There's so many things the kid, especially.

[Rory]

If the right person is, like, cooking it, knows how to cook different mushrooms. And it's. It definitely emulates a lot of textures that you already used to, like chicken.

[Mal]

And like that and Brussels sprouts. As a kid, we were told those sucks.

[Rory]

Broccoli got to be charred, almost burnt, and just doused. And don't give me no. Don't give me no, no super green Brussels sprouts. My shit's got to be kind of like char. Yeah, they got like, little. Little black marbles.

[Mal]

I feel you. All right, so what's. What's the consensus here? She's An. Right.

[Rory]

She's not. An. She's very. She's very particular about her order, especially when it comes to sandwich. It says it's given taste levels. It's given. It's given. You know, this person is very. You know, they know what they want. They're paying attention. She's paying attention to detail of the sandwich. A sandwich has to be detailed, and that's fine.

[Mal]

I respect it, too. If she was ordering it. Well, like, I'm particular with my order sometimes as well. If I'm in a mood, but I order it myself, I go with that mood.

[Rory]

I think. I think Rory's thing is he just doesn't like talking to the. Yeah, he doesn't like talking to people. That's. So have the podcast longer. Well, I mean, you can't see the people.

[Julian]

There's five people in this room.

[Rory]

But you don't like talking to strangers longer than you have to. You feel like if I got to stand here and have a longer dialogue with this person based off of sandwich order, now I'm uncomfortable.

[Damaris]

So that's what you were saying, that I was being an asshole to you. Not to him.

[Rory]

He.

[Damaris]

When you said this is an asshole order.

[Mal]

Oh, not to the guy at the deli. No. Oh, me to have to go through all of.

[Damaris]

Oh, no, I don't care about being an asshole to you. I thought you were saying that I was an asshole guy.

[Mal]

That wasn't the point of this conversation. I didn't think you cared.

[Rory]

He was projecting his. You know, he didn't want to have proclivities.

[Mal]

It was an asshole to a friend that was doing a favor to then want to order something so particular because now this is my issue.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

And I feel like you even threw some type of sauce on it, like, don't fuck it up or.

[Damaris]

No, I said No, I said don't add tomatoes because tomatoes ruined sandwiches.

[Mal]

Oh, yeah, Added that, like, when I was already walking back to the. The studio. No tomatoes, by the way.

[Julian]

Yeah. Didn't he know that? Because you would have said to me, it's Rory.

[Damaris]

I just. I wanted to be as clear as possible.

[Julian]

Roy, what did you get? Because you came back with two sandwiches. What was your order?

[Mal]

I got a gyro. And yes, I'm. I'm pronouncing that right, but chicken or. Chicken.

[Julian]

Yeah, chicken. Gyro, white and hot or what?

[Mal]

And to Damaris's credit, I. The tomato did ruin it. Maybe it's tomatoes at that.

[Julian]

It's not tomato season. Tomato season's over. Is that Gay, too. All right.

[Rory]

Yo, Julie, I'm telling you, like, I really.

[Damaris]

I try. I really.

[Julian]

You guys, you've been alive for how long? You don't know when vegetables are in season?

[Damaris]

We know when vegetables are in.

[Rory]

Yo, how gay does he think I am? Like, honestly, you only eat vegetables.

[Julian]

Shouldn't you know when tomato season is?

[Rory]

I go to Whole Foods. If they there cool. If they not cool, I don't.

[Julian]

Yeah, but you can tell. Taste the difference when it's. When they're not, you know, Peing.

[Mal]

Well, I. I did go to a farm over the weekend and I picked cherry tomatoes.

[Rory]

He.

[Damaris]

He won't stop.

[Rory]

Yo, what's up with y'all today, man? He got. We got aioli out of him. Yeah, we got peak season vegetable time.

[Mal]

We got Cullen sh. What the.

[Rory]

What is he researching, man? Take his.

[Julian]

I've been reading a lot guys lately.

[Rory]

You know, all the vegetables, when they're born, when they die. Like, what's up with you, man?

[Julian]

You know, in most traditions, this is like, I forget what traditions in particular, but it's New Year's is the fall because the earth is shedding. January 1st really makes no sense. It's stupid that we do that. It's just on the Gregorian holiday calendar. It's stupid.

[Mal]

But you think the earth is flat.

[Julian]

Basically, yeah.

[Mal]

Okay. Pretty much.

[Rory]

Where else would the leaves go?

[Mal]

I did. I did get blown off the earth. Cherry tomatoes, though, over the weekend. They seemed in season. Are cherry tomatoes in season?

[Julian]

Well, technically, the season tomato season ends in October. But, like, this is the. Like the great. The best of the harvest is long gone.

[Mal]

So I got the clearance sale. No one.

[Rory]

Yeah, these are the. These are the relatives that stay around longer.

[Julian]

It's like when you get sushi on, like, the half off sushi night. Just means the new order is coming in tomorrow.

[Mal]

I. Again, because I never did like, the pumpkin picking, tomato picking, obviously, apple picking, because I'm a Catholic. But I didn't know you had to pay to go to the farm to then go pick your own shit and pay for it. Yeah, they are running a racket at the farms right now. Yeah, I had to stand in line to buy a ticket, and of course I had to get apple cider. And they had apple.

[Julian]

You gotta do the donuts.

[Mal]

Of course I got the donuts. Then I had to get a ticket to get into the. The whole area. So I'm thinking, like, oh, since it's. I paid, it's like a buffet. Like, as many apples as I can get in the bag.

[Rory]

Good you're gonna apple butter.

[Mal]

They didn't have any.

[Rory]

That's the. Right there.

[Mal]

Then I see a line after we do the whole thing to come back because I wasn't paying for the tractor as well. Sorry, Amara. You're walking. I don't care how little your legs are through this forest. Let's go, kid. And carry your apple bag.

[Rory]

Yeah. Come on. You're gonna learn today.

[Mal]

I see the line. I'm like, why is there a line to get out? Like, just walk out and there's scales. So I start dumping out mad at my apple.

[Julian]

You didn't do, like, when I thought.

[Mal]

This was all you could eat. The. Why am I paying to go pick my own to then also pay for it.

[Julian]

The trick is you eat them while you're picking them. So by the time you, like, you're basically full. And then by the time you go home, you don't really want that many apples anyway. So you usually go home with like, maybe 10.

[Damaris]

Yeah, I was gonna say most.

[Mal]

I went home with an attitude.

[Rory]

An apple attitude. The attitude of an apple that just.

[Mal]

To get some family photos, man.

[Rory]

Crazy.

[Mal]

Like, at least pick it for me if I'm paying. It's.

[Rory]

Wow. I love apple picking, though. That's fun.

[Julian]

I do want to do. This is nice.

[Rory]

Yeah, it's fun. It's fun going out there on a nice day, too. Nice fall day.

[Mal]

You just go with the fellas. Like, how would you do it?

[Rory]

See?

[Mal]

All right, well, I'm just. I'm just saying.

[Rory]

All right, man.

[Mal]

See, I had never done it because I never had a kid.

[Rory]

I would never just. I would never go with the fellas to go apple picking, bro. What do you.

[Mal]

What.

[Rory]

What are you saying right now? I understand you. Who would you go. I know it's election time. I understand what's going on, man. Relax. All right. All right.

[Mal]

So who would you go with?

[Rory]

Most likely a young lady. A woman. Got you.

[Mal]

I feel like that makes it official, though. You can't just take. That's like not taking a chick to see a movie. Apple picking. That's girlfriend shit. She's allowed to say, why did you lead me on after that?

[Rory]

If you take apple picking 100% because that.

[Julian]

The apple picking means photos are going to happen.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Julian]

You can't do that without, like, photo evidence.

[Rory]

So once you take photos with him, that's your girl.

[Julian]

I'm just saying, like, it's. It's more ammo.

[Rory]

That's true.

[Julian]

You undo me after this, and then she has a case.

[Rory]

Like, we went Apple picking. You told me you love me. Yeah.

[Mal]

This is how much of a dad weekend that I had. So I took Marky or her mom as well, which is cool. Fun family day. Let's. Let's do it tomorrow. Have fun. About 2 hours and 15 minutes into the drive, I'm like, there had to have been a closer farm than this. Two hours as a dad, you just certain. You just like, shut up. Get in the car. Give me the address. Yeah, I then started out on my phone and driving at that point just googling farms. And we had passed like 15 on the way here.

[Rory]

Of course you did. Yeah. What was that? The best.

[Mal]

So I said, so I said, why, why did you pick this one? She's like, oh, well, because it has like activities. I was like, what type of activities? Like apple picking. They have a tractor. I was like, so. So a farm.

[Rory]

Chill, man.

[Mal]

Because, oh, I listen. I put my dad's smile on, took photos of everyone.

[Rory]

Gotta shut up.

[Mal]

Said this is the greatest experience ever. Why have I never done this?

[Rory]

We'll never do it again. In the back of your mind, we are never coming up.

[Mal]

Left with a sunburn attitude.

[Rory]

Yeah. Never doing a summer. I love your shirt. You finally wore the shirt.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Thank you.

[Mal]

Guys out in Toronto gave you. Yes.

[Rory]

This is.

[Mal]

This is fun.

[Julian]

Maybe move your laptop, Roy. People can't see it.

[Mal]

Oh, sorry, Peach.

[Julian]

There you go.

[Mal]

My framed better.

[Julian]

It says New Rory and it crosses out mall's name and says Mara. Yeah, with her logo.

[Mal]

Cute little hair and bow the little.

[Damaris]

So cute.

[Mal]

Oh, I know. This shirt's amazing.

[Rory]

Rory cried twice in Toronto.

[Julian]

We're not going to kill it. We're not going to kill Rory because I got ammo on you. Mall. You told me you cried the other night.

[Rory]

It wasn't a full cry.

[Julian]

You said you cried.

[Rory]

It was. I got. I got choked up.

[Mal]

Okay, so wait, whoa, whoa. So then what was me in Toronto? I wasn't like full fledged bawling my eyes out, you know, I think you.

[Rory]

I think you.

[Mal]

Know, like as a man when you fight it.

[Rory]

But tears dropped though, probably.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

You had to wipe your eyes.

[Mal]

Yeah, but like I caught it right now once.

[Rory]

You have to wipe. That's a cry.

[Mal]

But I caught it right there though. So you have. You have no idea if it would have had the weight to even go all the way down here.

[Rory]

I feel like it would have though.

[Mal]

I just, you know.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Julian]

This made me cry the other night.

[Rory]

This def. I didn't cry. I got choked up. I didn't cry. Just be Clear about that? No, but, yeah, last. The other night, watching the Lakers, Minnesota game, when Bron and Bronnie checked in the game for the first time. Although we know it was. This is manufactured and it's scripted. We understand that. We understand that there was 50 Nike cameras in the building. I mean, we understand that this is going to be a commercial. The Griffeys were courtside. We know. We understand this was a whole production, but it was still dope and cool to see actually, you know, to be. Be able to see the moment happen in real life. If it was a movie, if this was a movie, this probably wouldn't have been a part of the movie where you get choked up at. You know what I mean? But the fact that it is real life and it finally really happened, it was. It was something to be choked up about as a black man growing up in America. This is definitely something that I think all black men should be proud of.

[Mal]

Yeah, it was a cool moment. This would be the part of the movie where Bronnie Jr. Saves, like, bugs Money in the team.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Mal]

He checks in.

[Julian]

You calling him Bill Murray?

[Mal]

Bill Murray did.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Exactly. Yeah. It was a beautiful moment, man. Shout out to the. To the James family. That was dope.

[Mal]

Do you think you would have actually cried if you weren't high?

[Rory]

No, I think if I was high, I would have probably cried.

[Mal]

Okay.

[Rory]

Because then I would have started, you know, digging through all my trauma with my dad. Why didn't my dad set a screen?

[Mal]

Why didn't he put in a thousand hours?

[Rory]

My. My dad never rebounded for me, you know? I mean, all that, like, you know. But no, that was a really, really cool moment.

[Mal]

I saw someone retweet, like, the video of Braun and Bronnie going on the court. He's like, I can't wait to work the forklift with my son. Which would be cool for sure.

[Rory]

Anytime you get to, you know, hand down what you do as a father to your kids is. Is a cool moment. But this. That moment was just. Again, you know, a lot of people are. It would be cool if it wasn't so orchestrated. And, you know, it's like, I get it. I understand that part of it, but it's still a very, very cool thing to witness.

[Mal]

So I'm taking my dad to the World Series on Tuesday.

[Rory]

Fire.

[Mal]

Yeah. I mean, we're in the bleachers, but it's okay. Listen. World Series.

[Rory]

What do they call a Bleacher Cruise? It had a cool name from the other night. I heard it bleacher creatures.

[Julian]

Bleacher creatures.

[Mal]

That's hilarious.

[Rory]

Bleacher creature.

[Mal]

I've done the bleachers in regular season games. Not. They're not bad. They're not like the old stadium bleachers.

[Rory]

I think every kid. Well, that I can remember our first time at Yankee Stadium. We were in the bleachers.

[Mal]

Yeah. I mean, we were just.

[Rory]

Yeah. Your field trip. You go to the bleachers, get the.

[Mal]

Bleachers tickets, and just sneak down. It wasn't that difficult.

[Rory]

And I'm sure the bleachers and 9.

[Mal]

11 happened and everyone got in a fucking frenzy.

[Rory]

Yeah. Got their panties in a bunch. I think the bleachers are probably cooler now than they were back when I first went to the. To the bleachers.

[Mal]

Well, they're better seats, for sure.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Because you're like, right in. What is that right field before you were up top. Up top.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

But they used to be 10 bucks. Remember that?

[Rory]

Hell, yeah.

[Mal]

$10.

[Rory]

Absolutely.

[Mal]

Yankee game.

[Rory]

How much was. How much of the bleacher tickets?

[Mal]

Now, I don't want to say.

[Julian]

Okay, the minimum ticket.

[Mal]

The minimum ticket that I want to talk about it.

[Rory]

What was the minimum? Over a thousand. Twelve hundred right now. Seventeen to get it.

[Mal]

I didn't get it. Pay 17 each. Thank God there are.

[Julian]

The minimum was over a thousand.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

You know, I talked with. With Loyon probably when the Yankees were like, two games to. To clinch.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

And I was like, yo, can you get my affairs in order to get it out? I really wanted to. I want to have a moment with my pops, surprise them with World Series tickets. Like, I want to have that moment with him.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Loyal to me. Back a few hours later, he's like, I'll put some numbers around.

[Julian]

Game 3 at Yankee Stadium is poised to be nearly the most expensive in World Series history with the average ticket price of nearly $2,000. Standing room tickets, meanwhile, are selling for nearly 1500.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Julian]

Oh, also, they said the parking lot. The. The Yankee parking. The average parking spot now is like 500 to, like, 700. To park.

[Rory]

To park. Park in the Yankee Stadium is crazy.

[Mal]

Well, they better not raise the price of the D train, but, you know, I'm not parking.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

I'm probably gonna park in Jersey and then go from there.

[Rory]

Why would you. Actually, don't they have the. They have the train, The. What is it the Metro north now?

[Mal]

Oh, yeah, I forgot the Metro north stuff.

[Rory]

Yeah, they got the Metro north there now.

[Mal]

Yeah, but you got to take.

[Rory]

You gotta ride the train, man. Like, it's gotta ride the Train to the stadium. That's just part of it. World Series, like, come on, man. Yeah, it's gonna be a. What they call Zoovie. Jerome Avenue is gonna be. Let me tell you something. If you live over there, you're gonna be pissed for at least the next two weeks.

[Mal]

And then Tuesday's game two, right?

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Okay.

[Julian]

Game four. First tour in la.

[Mal]

I was thinking you bought tickets to LA tonight.

[Julian]

If you're hearing this is game one in la.

[Mal]

He'S like, they were cheaper.

[Rory]

He bought tickets to Dodger Stadium 1.

[Mal]

I thought it was weird. We didn't ask for airfare.

[Rory]

You know how crazy that'll be? You got Dodger tickets. Dodger Stadium tickets there.

[Mal]

I've seen people, though, like, show up to stadiums with, like, different days. Like, they grab the wrong tickets. I've seen that happen to a couple people.

[Rory]

That's crazy. I don't know how.

[Mal]

They just have to turn around. Yeah, I've seen people buy Scalpers tickets that way.

[Rory]

The most I've done is buy tickets to the, like, on the wrong. I pick, like, I've done that before. Like, buy some Ipick tickets online.

[Damaris]

You meant to bought it.

[Rory]

And I get there and I'm like, I'm at the South Street Seaport. They're like, nah, this is for.

[Julian]

That's the one I go to.

[Rory]

I'm like, jersey for.

[Damaris]

We hawking.

[Rory]

Who the fuck goes to. Leaves Manhattan to go to Jersey to a movie theater? Like, what the fuck?

[Mal]

More scenic.

[Rory]

But they are. They are cool with that, though. They did, like, switch it around for me and, like, you know, I still got to see the movie. But that was. It was just funny that I was like, why would I leave Manhattan and go to Jersey?

[Mal]

That's almost as dumb as someone going to the wrong airport after our live DC show.

[Julian]

Damn, that's true. You did do that.

[Mal]

I typed my confirmation number in. I'd never seen this. This notification pop up. You're at the wrong airport.

[Damaris]

How embarrassing.

[Julian]

It's like you're in the system, but not here.

[Mal]

Like, they didn't give, like some whole thing. It just straight up, you're at the wrong airport.

[Rory]

I like that. Let me know immediately so I ain't got to waste no more time.

[Mal]

Paul ass. You have to get out of here. Miami trip.

[Rory]

That's crazy.

[Julian]

Mal, you were talking about LeBron and Bronny bringing you to tears. Did you see. Do you think that the women, the Basketball Wives or BMs of the industry are in tears? Did you guys see Jer Drea supporting Her man. Her man. Her man after his three year extension.

[Rory]

I'm glad I'm here for you to tell me all about it, Julian.

[Julian]

Yeah. So Drea reposted, you know, just a standard ESPN breaking news, you know, flyer for her guy from sams. Yeah. Signing a massive extension. And rightfully not rightfully so. As expected, she's getting killed online for it. Thoughts?

[Mal]

Just gross. Ew. What type of woman.

[Rory]

She's getting killed just for reposting it.

[Mal]

Yeah, she was getting smoked on the timeline.

[Rory]

I mean, but what is she. This is her gold digger.

[Mal]

This was her whole point. She saw the money, all she said was congrats to her boyfriend.

[Rory]

I mean, two things.

[Mal]

Father of one of her kids.

[Rory]

Yeah, but I mean, so what?

[Mal]

I think congrats for feeding our family.

[Rory]

Yeah. I mean, but we know that this was. Yeah, we. Everybody know Dre ran a play. We should be congratulating her. To have the foresight, you know what I'm saying? And have the wherewithal.

[Mal]

Yes.

[Rory]

To recognize a young talent.

[Mal]

So it's more of a victory lap for her than it is for him. I mean, if you ask me, she was congratulating herself.

[Rory]

She's the new Woj, if you ask me. Like, she saw him getting that Max extension before any of us did. Shout out to Dre. That's a great eye.

[Mal]

I mean, it. It could be love. I feel like Dre, it could be love. Could have a couple picks with Max.

[Rory]

It could be love. It could be love. I think that, you know, we got to give people the opportunity to find love however they find it.

[Mal]

She wants to mold that young man.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Help and raise him, help him out, navigate through this crazy world we're in right now.

[Rory]

Listen, man, it is what it is, man. What are we going to do?

[Julian]

I'm learning in. In younger in, you know, we look at how Anthony Edwards look up. Looks up to Kevin, another dog. Anthony Edwards look up to Kevin Durant. Well, do we think that I with.

[Mal]

Ant, Manny Jr. You don't need to shower after the game. You good?

[Rory]

I. With Ant, man.

[Julian]

Do we think Shannon, his girlfriend, currently looks up to Dre and is kind of copying her blueprint? Shannon went on Instagram live, said, listen, I don't give a who he or who he can nuts in and gets pregnant. I'm a basketball wife or girl, whatever, and I'm gonna be taken care of. My bank account's bigger than yours.

[Damaris]

But that's not what she said, so. Don't know. That's not.

[Rory]

What did she say, baby? D. Give it to her.

[Damaris]

She said, I'm his. That's his baby mother. That's not his wife. That's not his girlfriend. It's his baby mother. She said, okay, y'all just finding out that he has. He's has other kids. Like, I'm not worried about that. My bank account with me and my kid is good. He had other kids with other women. That's not him.

[Mal]

I mean, I appreciate the self awareness instead of trying to fabricate it for perception. Like, yeah, me too.

[Julian]

Yeah, checkmate.

[Mal]

I got money. As long as it doesn't affect.

[Damaris]

Poor people do that. Like, oh, he. Okay, we're broken up. He had. He went and got somebody else pregnant.

[Rory]

What? I know. That's right.

[Damaris]

I mean, I. Like I said, like we were saying, off mic. That's not my. The way I want to live my life. But you gotta understand, a lot of these people are coming from poverty and haven't really experienced much. Like, you got somebody that gets you out of poverty, you're not really worried about who else they're sleeping with.

[Mal]

Why are you assuming that Shannon is. Is from poverty? It's crazy. Just put on, what if she has.

[Rory]

Two caring parents and went to a private school?

[Julian]

What if she popped the balloon?

[Damaris]

What if. But this is a poverty mindset. As long as I have King Harris, as long as I have money, I'm okay. That's usually from people who didn't grow up with money. People who didn't grow up with money usually put money over everything.

[Rory]

She's talking now.

[Mal]

Let's not say that, though, because there are a lot of women that grew up with money in a great household that just turned out to be horse. It was just in their DNA.

[Damaris]

But why are you.

[Mal]

Her mother was a whore. The mother before that mother was a whore.

[Damaris]

But why are you putting whore on her, though?

[Mal]

I wasn't putting anything on anyone. You were projecting that she must be from the hood.

[Rory]

And if she's from the hood, she gotta be a whore, right?

[Julian]

Oh, my bad.

[Rory]

I'm sorry. I thought that's what I. That's what I took from you. How did you.

[Mal]

How did you. When we were adding that up, I thought I. Did you do pemdas to get that? I did. All women from the hood are horrors.

[Rory]

I thought I did the science just now. My bad.

[Mal]

So all women that have kids from NBA players are.

[Damaris]

No, no.

[Rory]

I mean, I don't know this.

[Mal]

I'm not saying anything. I think Shannon might be from a well to do house and just.

[Rory]

I don't know.

[Mal]

Saw an ambitious young man.

[Rory]

And I remember seeing this young lady, but, like, Baby D is basically saying, it's like, okay, if she's cool with it, then cool.

[Mal]

And that's also like, how you build your tribe.

[Rory]

Takes. This takes a village.

[Mal]

Yeah, I think that's great. If everyone's on the same page, that takes a village.

[Julian]

Derrick Rose kind of mastered that. Remember, he had them all dressing in pajamas together, taking photos as a team.

[Rory]

You get that when you get right Christmas, when they sign that, when they give you that contract, People know how to fall in line. I'm trying to tell you that brings order. That brings understanding.

[Mal]

I got it.

[Rory]

Ain't nobody mad. Ain't nobody complaining. Anybody fall right in line when they see Adidas gave you 150. I gotta ask, like, I don't care who he.

[Mal]

Swizz got the bosky out of state and his baby mother said, come on in, Alicia.

[Rory]

I don't care.

[Mal]

Join the family.

[Rory]

Yeah. You know what I'm saying? The bottom line is get to the bag, man. That brings understanding. You ain't got no. You ain't got no arguments when you got the bag.

[Mal]

Speaking of self awareness. Tommy, Tommy, our guy Tommy. Tommy boy.

[Rory]

Tom. Now, you told Tom, you just told us last week you're not a hip hop artist.

[Mal]

He's definitely Tom.

[Rory]

And. And what do you know? A week later, Your album is now submitted as a hip hop.

[Julian]

No, no, no, no, no, it's not. Or the song Million Dollar Baby has been submitted for best rap song and best. What is it? Best melodic rap performance.

[Rory]

He's not rapping.

[Mal]

There's not a single bar on that. There's nothing hip hop about that record. Talking about that shit is maybe R and B and pop.

[Rory]

You know how crazy it is to tweet, I'm not a hip hop artist. And then the next week, the Grammys be like, so that song of yours, it's a hip hop song.

[Mal]

That's when you don't check your group chat with your manager.

[Rory]

Yeah, like, what the fuck? Like, how fast did that blow up in Tommy's face?

[Mal]

Which is crazy because he has a great team. Like, I. Someone should have just taken his Twitter at this point. Like, Tommy, we've submitted already.

[Rory]

This is going to be the funny.

[Mal]

Part for the whole board.

[Rory]

The funny part is he gonna win.

[Mal]

I know.

[Damaris]

That'S not funny.

[Rory]

He about to. I'm telling you. Y'all don't see this. Y'all don't see the play. I'm not a hip Hop artist you are today.

[Mal]

He's gonna beat Dochi Tommy Richmond.

[Rory]

That song is gonna win without a doubt. Wait, wait, hold on. Because if Not Like Us is in the same category, then it might be a little different.

[Mal]

I'm sure. Not Like Us.

[Rory]

And that's. And that's.

[Julian]

But I think Not Like Us will get best rap song. But he's. Again, he's up for best melodic rap song.

[Mal]

It's not even a melodic rap song. It's.

[Julian]

It's not rap. If it's gonna win one, it would be melodic.

[Rory]

We have to make sub genres for this thing, man. We have to.

[Mal]

I agree there, but that's a separate point because it's not even.

[Rory]

This is. This is not a rap song. Hip hop, best rap, melodic performance, whatever you want to, however you want to cut the dope. Tommy Richmond is not. That's not a hip hop record.

[Julian]

It's funny because in the article that. That I'm reading about this, when it's referencing the success of the song, it said the song gained popularity from TikTok, blah, blah, blah. It spent nearly 22 weeks at top Billboard's hot R B songs. So even to Billboard's metric.

[Mal]

Don't box him in.

[Julian]

But I'm saying, like, they're. He. It spent all of its time on an R B chart.

[Mal]

Yes.

[Julian]

It never went on a rap.

[Rory]

They're trying to put us all in one box, man.

[Mal]

You see, like, there's a box, right? There's four corners. R B is there. You were trying to keep him within those. Wants to open the box. The box. The other two corners go to other boxes.

[Rory]

Just imagine, though. Imagine, like some of our greatest rappers having to deal with this back in, like.

[Mal]

I mean, they did.

[Rory]

They did with a song like this. When did it happen? No, this. All right, so that's all I'm saying. Ain't no rapper ever had to deal with this song like this Tommy Richmond record being in the same category as one of their songs.

[Mal]

They don't televise. Best rap song, right?

[Damaris]

No, I don't think so.

[Mal]

I would love to see.

[Rory]

You sure.

[Mal]

His acceptance speech, I think just rap album.

[Damaris]

Yeah. I don't think.

[Mal]

I don't know if they televised that. They have, like, the other one, which I feel like you can go find clips if you search for them. I have to see his exception speech.

[Rory]

He's definitely gonna win, though. And that's crazy. It's crazy that we sitting here and we know that that record is going to win best rap or best hip hop Song, I think melodic. Melodic rap. Whatever, y'all. What rap is in it? He ain't rapping.

[Mal]

What if he wins? And then later that night, Texas Kendrick Lamar and says, yo, it should have been you, gangster.

[Julian]

And then Post a screenshot. I did this for hip hop.

[Mal]

And then. And then says, when I was six years old, I thought I was gay.

[Damaris]

I'm sorry.

[Rory]

No, it's happened before. I don't know if you know that, but that. That's the blueprint.

[Mal]

It's the blueprint of the white rapper.

[Rory]

You have to do that. You have to do that.

[Mal]

You have to give Kendrick your crane.

[Rory]

Yeah, you have to give Kendrick the Grammy, man. Give it to him now.

[Mal]

Did Post ever do that?

[Rory]

Did he ever.

[Mal]

No wonder he didn't stay in the genre. He had to go to country.

[Rory]

Did he?

[Mal]

He didn't go through the rite of passage. You got to give Kendrick your Grammy.

[Julian]

But did he win that year, Post Malone? Definitely.

[Mal]

I don't think he's ever won in the rap category.

[Rory]

Or melodic performance. Melodic rap, whatever you want to go.

[Mal]

I doubt it.

[Julian]

He. He started winning Grammys in 2019. So this. This is after, like, he did a few.

[Mal]

He did a joint with, like, Roddy Rich real quick, but I don't think that was the one that won.

[Rory]

Okay.

[Mal]

He was with the baby for, like, a month.

[Julian]

Oh, wait, hold up. Yo. 10 nominations, 0 wins.

[Rory]

Post doesn't have a Grammy.

[Julian]

That's crazy.

[Damaris]

God don't like ugly.

[Rory]

Damn.

[Mal]

First of all, Nas just got one. Let's not say that that defines which is crazy.

[Rory]

Nas getting his first Grammy a couple years ago is wild. Think about that.

[Mal]

What if Tommy Richmond and Nas have the same amount of Grammys come 2025? Yeah, I get it in the rap category.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

And I'm not hating on Tommy Richmond. I really like his album, and I look forward to him making music. But cut the.

[Rory]

Don't.

[Mal]

Don't tweet. He just insults our intelligence. Like, don't scream you're not hip hop. And then submit to hip hop.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

You're not gonna say, yo, yo, like, you know, his team did that.

[Julian]

That's my thing. What the real conversation is. Why are him and his team on different wavelengths?

[Rory]

They probably like, fucking more.

[Julian]

That's a real awkward thing.

[Rory]

Yeah, but they probably like, we don't care. We just want to be nominated.

[Julian]

Yeah, but, like, tell me, like, don't make me look like an asshole for. For standing up for what I believe my music is and what I think my art is, and then not backdoor him. But, hey, if we're going to submit, tell me, because you know this is going to be a headline after I say all this about my own music.

[Rory]

Tommy Richmond knew for a while that his song was submitted to the Grammys. He didn't for sure. He didn't find out what we found out.

[Mal]

Maybe not the category, but also that song we did look up. I don't know if they changed it, which I doubt they did. Million Dollar Baby or whatever. It's under hip Hop rap as a single, which, I mean, that's more of like, the darker, deeper, criminal link with the entire thing. His team, as great as they are, knew that song was not hip hop rap. But with the money behind him, with that type of song, with his image, it would be easier to go number one in rap with that song than if he were to compete in the pop charts. But, I mean, he ended up just being number one, period. So who's to say anything but there was some strategy in putting that under hip hop and rap when they released.

[Rory]

It in us as a culture. As I've said before, hip hop being one of the most black people, being some of the most forgiving people on the planet, we just accept it, okay? Tommy's. You know, he's nominated for hip hop melodic performance.

[Julian]

Whatever you're saying, we accept it. But is it really ours to accept? It's. If we're not the ones making the rules, we ain't.

[Rory]

We ain't the ones protesting it either.

[Julian]

But, like, what power does that have? That's my point. Like, what power is there to.

[Rory]

There should be a lot of. Every hip hop artist, every rapper, especially ones that are in higher positions, should be speaking out about this type of shit.

[Julian]

I think there's bigger fresh fish to fry than protesting his nomination.

[Rory]

Not just his nomination. It's just that this is something that, again, we just. Beyonce made a real country album, and the CMAs wouldn't even. You know what I'm saying? You see how they holding it? Like, nah, we ain't fucking with that. She not from this, and she's from Texas, born and raised.

[Damaris]

But that's every. But to be fair, a lot of what they came out and said is that Beyonce doesn't go in and rub shoulders with.

[Rory]

I ain't never seen Tommy Richmond at New Yorkan Cafe. Never seen you seen him.

[Mal]

I have not.

[Rory]

Never seen.

[Mal]

I did frequent it quite a bit, actually.

[Rory]

Never seen Tommy in the building. Never.

[Mal]

It may have closed down before he was born.

[Rory]

Yeah. But I still never seen him. He Wasn't dead.

[Damaris]

But that. But ma, you were. If you let me finish, that was. My point is. And we. I agree with you. We need to be as close knit as the country community is when it comes to their.

[Rory]

Yeah, it's just like, yo, that's not hip hop. That's not rap. That's all. But not saying it's not a dope record, but it's just not. That's not this, Coach. That's not this. And he said it. Yeah, I mean, just further, it was a bigger slap in the face. Like he already said it. And then the Academy is like, nah, yes, you are.

[Julian]

But that's my point. Like, we're not the Academy. The Academy.

[Rory]

There's people on the board.

[Damaris]

The Academy.

[Mal]

What d. Saying the country awards are for countries. It's not the Grammy Hip Hop Awards.

[Rory]

I get that. But I'm just saying. I'm just talking about. As far as just categorizing things that is. That are not of our culture called hip hop, but how y'all just putting that into our culture.

[Damaris]

But the Grammy didn't. The Grammys didn't say, hey, you're a hip hop artist. He submitted as a hip hop artist. Correct.

[Rory]

Right. Even if that's what he did. I'm just saying somebody on the board should have been like, you can't submit this for hip hop. Because we know why he is. Because it's easier if it is to go number one than it is if you put that. It just pop, which is what it is.

[Julian]

But.

[Mal]

All right, but where do you draw. Where do you draw the line? Because what if I go and research a genre that I can tell does not have frequent releases and not high streams, and then I go put out a record featuring some crazy A list artist under Celtic folk dancing. But I submitted under there, so I'm number one. Give me the Grammy. Yeah, like, where do you draw the line? I feel like the song should have to be in the genre. Like that has to. The DSPs have to figure that part out. I don't know how they would do it because there's like 10 million songs submitted a day. They have to come up with some AI to be like, that's not this, bro.

[Rory]

Fuck it. Let Conway put his next album under country go number one.

[Mal]

He's big on the second amendment.

[Damaris]

Well, I guess that was just how we would have to redefine. Not redefine, but really defined what makes hip hop hip hop. Like, if you were to describe hip hop and what is hip hop, I think that's where the issue is coming in. Because hip hop crosses so many genres because we take it and we remix it and add our culture to it, our swag to it, and that's what makes it hip hop. So it's harder to say, well, that's not hip hop, because I can see the elements of hip hop in that song.

[Mal]

Well, pop music in this term clearly does.

[Damaris]

You can see the elements of it, yes. I'm not talking about rap. Right. Because he was nominated for rap. It's not even hip hop. He was nominated for rap. That's a no. Automatically. No. There is no rap in that song. But if we're talking about hip hop and everything that is hip hop, there's so many different sub genres of hip hop. I can see the hip hop elements in the song just the same way I can see the pop elements, but I can see the hip hop elements in most pop songs these days. You look at.

[Rory]

I mean, I get it. Because hip hop is the foundation, the bed of hip hop music is the sample, the breakbeat.

[Damaris]

Exactly.

[Rory]

So, yeah, you're going to feel hip hop and see hip hop in a lot of different genres, but that don't mean it's. It's hip hop. Like, I just. There's no way you hear this record and be like, yo, that's a hip hop record. That's insane.

[Mal]

And of course, hip hop. Now, there's a gray area to your point. Like, even I could see someone making a case where Cudi has a lot of hip hop elements. To Cudi is hip hop. It may not be traditional hip hop music, but you can see where those lines could be blurred. Million Dollar Baby has none of those. That is not. There's nothing about it that is hip hop. It's just a great song that should be in a pop category.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

And of course, Julian, there's other fish to fry. But if I'm an artist that's in that category or didn't get nominated because Million Dollar Baby ends up in that category. Yeah. I would feel it. I'd feel away. Of course there's bigger problems, but the fuck.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Mal]

This pop song is now going to take away my opportunity to change my life. Because when people do get Grammys, things do change financially.

[Julian]

But like when I was saying the bigger Fisherfire thing, I'm not saying that the anger should be pointed at Tommy and his team. I'm saying look at the people on the Grammy board, the people that are defining what hip hop is, the people that are in charge of, hey, this is what we deem to be hip hop aren't in fact, a part of hip hop to what mall saying? So we're having people make the rules about a genre they never represented or were a part of. That's the problem. So when they see a song, Million dollar baby, and they see TikTok videos of black girls dancing and all these, like, black people, like, in the music video, they're like, oh, it's a hip hop song. Like, they're defining something that they're not a part of. So I don't get mad at the artists. It's. It's the board and the people that are. That are at the helm.

[Mal]

That wasn't saying protest. Tommy Richmond.

[Rory]

No, no, no, no. I'm not saying people like Tommy Richard. He said it. He told us already. I'm not a hip hop artist.

[Julian]

Yeah, but I'm the way in which demerit country music. So insular.

[Rory]

That is what he said, right? Yeah, what he said. I'm not a hip hop artist.

[Mal]

And then cleaned it up and said, I'm not just a hip hop artist. Don't box me.

[Julian]

Country music. Country music is so insular in the sense that the people that are making the music and the people that are on the board are cut from the same cloth. They are all from the same tribe. So it's like, all right, like, I'm, you know, I'm this artist, but my OGs and everybody that I know are the people that are ultimately sending the nominations and deciding who wins. It's all a familial treat. There. There isn't that with the hip hop and Grammys. It's old white people for, like, lack of. Just to black and white. It. It's old white people deeming. What is black culture?

[Rory]

Is it ninth? He's on the board, right?

[Mal]

He. I don't know if he still is, but he was at one point. I don't want to quote, but yeah, 9th wonder was on the board, last I checked.

[Damaris]

Cool.

[Mal]

Which there's been some discrepancies with 9th. I remember when Tribe's last album thank you for your service didn't get a nomination. I remember Q Tip got on Twitter and was like, ninth, what the fuck? Like, he's supposed to be the one that represents us up there, which I think is. He can't do everything on night.

[Julian]

Just because there's. Just because more people that we respect that are like, our faces of what would be hip hop doesn't mean that they have this say on what gets put in.

[Mal]

There's more to it. I don't want to just, of course, Q Tip look crazy like that. The other issue was Rhapsody's album that 9th produced was nominated, which I thought was worthy of a Grammy nomination, but that was the deciding factor. It was either Tribe or Rhapsody, according to what I heard. And that's why Q Tip was like some insider trading going on here, like. But I mean, neither here nor there. I think they pieced it up. But if. If that's the case again, where do we draw the line? Because if I'm Bryson Tiller or Brent Faz, who's same team as Tommy Richmond, I could have been submitting to best Rap Song this whole time. If that's the case, Bryson Taylor don't should have won a best rap song in 2015.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Way more rap than Tommy Richmond.

[Mal]

Way more. Matter of fact, Trap Soul could be under a rap album at that point. If Tommy Richmond is hip hop.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

So if I'm other artists, like, damn, I could have done this. The whole time I had number one records. I just was in a different genre that had more competition. As far as the Grammys go. Yeah, shit like this. I see what Maul is saying. Even though it's small stuff, it is something that needs to be talked about. And maybe boycott isn't the best route, but it needs to be brought up. I agree with you.

[Rory]

I mean, we already really don't support the Grammys anyway. You know, some people show up certain years when they're promised certain things. You know, from our culture, it's like, okay, I'll go. But for the most part, we really don't. Anyway, they made hoes sit front row.

[Mal]

For three hours with like nine nominations. I mean, he was tight.

[Rory]

Was that. Was that the year they gave the. The what award was that?

[Damaris]

That was last year.

[Rory]

That was last year.

[Mal]

He didn't. He was nominated for a bunch and didn't get one Grammy.

[Damaris]

Oh, you're talking about a different year.

[Mal]

Yeah, this might have been like, pre.

[Damaris]

I'm talking about when he got an award last year.

[Rory]

Remember, he made this Dr. Dr. Dre.

[Damaris]

Something award, Impactor something award, something like that.

[Mal]

Who do we think will get it this year?

[Rory]

Diddy?

[Mal]

Kendrick Lamar?

[Rory]

Oh.

[Mal]

Y'All funny to me.

[Rory]

Kendra gets it this year.

[Julian]

Why did they start that award?

[Damaris]

It would have been such a good year to give it to Drake. If it wasn't this year, I. I.

[Mal]

Think even Drake would be too premature. We should start with.

[Rory]

Didn't Drake get some award already from the Grammys the year he went because he really. He usually doesn't go. He doesn't go to the Grammys.

[Mal]

He went. He did. He did that speech, which I would have really.

[Rory]

I. That he got.

[Mal]

I don't think he got a specific award.

[Julian]

He got, like, what?

[Mal]

He's just a Grammy.

[Julian]

He has five Grammy wins. I think it was just. Yeah, I think it was just on a song or something that he won that he snuck in that PSA about, like, don't. We don't care what they think.

[Mal]

Well, he didn't say that. He said it in a good and healthy way. Like, this is great, but this doesn't define you as an artist. You don't win.

[Rory]

But he won.

[Mal]

He won.

[Julian]

His last one was. Wait for you.

[Rory]

Okay.

[Mal]

Okay.

[Julian]

He was nominated at the 66th Grammy Awards. It was when her loss came out that was submitted for Best Rap Album, as was Spin about yout, Rich Flex and Rich Flex again for two separate categories.

[Mal]

It would be looked at weird since it's the Dr. Dre Award, but I think Ice Cube should get it in 2025.

[Rory]

I'm not mad at that.

[Mal]

I think that would make a lot.

[Julian]

Of sense about Snoop. Snoop's been everywhere this year, and that's another thing.

[Damaris]

And I don't want to make it a thing, but I feel like the Grammys, they go off. Not always. They should more, but they go off of the way that we handle things in our culture. Dr. Dre shouldn't have an award at the Grammys. And the reason why he's allowed to do that is because we, us, our own culture did not kick his back in enough the way that it should have been.

[Mal]

You are 100 correct.

[Damaris]

So they don't. They don't find.

[Mal]

Sure. Got brought up in that boardroom, like, all right, we've looked at some of his past, and I went, he didn't get canceled.

[Julian]

They still love him.

[Mal]

Yeah, I'm sure.

[Julian]

It was literally, yeah.

[Damaris]

That voice.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Mal]

And if someone would have came in and there would have been, like, a cancellation day, someone would have brought up. It's a little dicey over here. We should find something else.

[Damaris]

And it scares me because history call.

[Mal]

It the Clive Davis Award.

[Damaris]

History tends to repeat it. Jesus. History tends to repeat itself. And as I'm seeing with so many people, so many people, like, still defend Puff, and it's like, if the police weren't making this a thing, like, if the feds weren't making this a thing with Puff, our culture would just forgive.

[Julian]

Still wouldn't have been a thing.

[Damaris]

Let it go.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

And I have an award named after him in 10 years.

[Julian]

Shit. You bring up the Puff, maybe All named after.

[Mal]

I don't want any more beef with Envy. It's love everything. But I did see that clip with him and his wife. They have a podcast, which is actually pretty good podcast, talking about, why is everyone mad at Diddy. Like, let's wait for the trial. Let's see what's in the paperwork. I saw the video, man. I don't. I don't need to sit here and defend Puff. Let's wait for the details. Yeah, they're like, I saw the video. They're like, everyone shut the fuck up.

[Damaris]

They're like, yeah, the video was bad, but, like, the charges. They're charging him now for, like, is he guilty of them? Who gives a fuck?

[Mal]

Don't give a single fucking.

[Rory]

And I think it's just. I think what people are forgetting is that once we saw that video of him in the. In the hotel with Cassie, you know, because I think a few weeks before that, he had posted. You know, a lot of these things are lies. Wait till the truth is revealed.

[Mal]

All of them were.

[Rory]

Yeah. So it was like, once that happens, and then we get a video that, you know this wasn't a lie and that you actually did put hands on, on Cassie. It's like, now everything else people hear, they're like, oh, then, yeah, this shit gotta be true. You already lied to us about you not, you know, it being lies about you abusing Cassie. So I think that's where people are now. They're like, yeah, we're gonna believe that all of these allegations and these things that we're hearing are true. We're gonna jump to judgment quickly because he already lied to us before. I think that's just what people are cool.

[Mal]

And I am on the side of due process and we should look at evidence. But when it comes. When it comes to this situation, after seeing that video, I don't care if he is actually innocent of everything they're accusing of him of. You need to sit down. Yeah, you can't. You can't be charged because past statute of limitations with the Cassie incident, I don't care if you're innocent of all this. The ball doesn't lie. Go sit down.

[Damaris]

And let's just, like, let's just be honest. If somebody's capable of doing what we saw in that video, they are capable of anything.

[Mal]

Yeah, the baby oil thing's not that crazy to me. Once I saw that video, like, he's capable of this.

[Damaris]

And Then not even that. If we're just going off. If I ignore everybody else's lawsuit, people were saying Cassie was lying. It came out that Cassie was telling the truth about that hotel incident, which she described to a T. So that now everything that validates everything else in that lawsuit, that validates him blowing up kid Cudi's car, which Kid Cudi validated and everybody else validated. That validates him after she broke up with him, him sneaking in her house and raping her. That. All of these. I didn't forget what was in that. It's like everybody just read that lawsuit and everything just left their brain. I don't forget like that.

[Mal]

So, no, it's not just tossing some random lies in that. When she literally explained to A T what was on that video.

[Rory]

It's not. You know what it's not. It's not that the bottom line is. And what people just have to accept at some point is that most people just don't care.

[Mal]

I mean, that's.

[Damaris]

That's. But I wish people would just come.

[Mal]

Out and say that.

[Rory]

I wish most people don't care. So then when you do care, you got to understand that you're an outcast because they're looking at you like, yo, why you. What you care about? Why are you so invested in they? Bitch. No, my moral compass is just somewhere else. Like, if I see a woman being abused and beat. Yeah, that person. I don't care how creative or how great of a music or producer that person is. Like, to me, that person is no longer. You know, I don't care what that person is selling no more. I'm not consuming what that person is selling anymore. That's just me. I don't expect everybody else to think like that. And you're gonna find that most people don't think like that and don't feel like that and don't care.

[Mal]

Yeah, most people don't give a.

[Rory]

They don't care. People don't. People don't care, man. That's just the bottom line. They don't care if people are being abused. They don't care if people are being hurt. They just don't give a. If it doesn't directly affect them, they feel like, man, all that turn the music up, that's just where they at with it. So, you know.

[Mal]

I thought of another great person for the Dr. Dre Sipping Award. With all the political activism that they're currently doing, I think Eminem would be a great pick.

[Julian]

Okay, that's my go.

[Mal]

Or, like, I feel like Everything he's really been, you know, doing on those lefty streets, he's warranted. I'm just trying to bait you.

[Rory]

No, you're not. It's not. It's not. I know what you're doing. It's not. I just.

[Mal]

You don't think he's a political activist?

[Rory]

Listen, man, we. We understand what politics is about this time of year, every four years, we understand. We get it. Beyonce's performing at Kamala's rally in Houston.

[Julian]

Allegedly, by the way.

[Rory]

Allegedly.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Rory]

And I still don't believe it.

[Julian]

I don't either.

[Rory]

I don't believe it. I don't think Beyonce is endorsing Kamala. I just don't believe it. I don't think she knows enough about her. I don't think she heard. She's been briefed on what she's really trying to do. I don't think she really is into Kamala like that. Like, I don't. I don't. I don't see that could be wrong. And I'm. It's okay if I am wrong. I stand corrected. The one thing that I'm looking at in this whole thing, though, that's just kind of disappointing is watching Barack Obama, and we understand him endorsing Kamala and supporting Kamala, but playing the skin color card from Barack, like, seeing some things, him going and talking to black men and how we need to get out and vote for Kamala because, you know, she grew up just like us. And it's that when he was campaigning, he didn't even play the skin card with us when he was campaigning for president. Barack never said, yo, y'all gotta vote for me, because you know what I'm saying? From the same. He never did that.

[Mal]

He wouldn't even let Jeezy in the White House.

[Rory]

He never did that. So now it's like, why is that the angle now when supporting this candidate? I just don't. To me, it just seems. And I'm of the belief as a black man, if enough black men felt like this was authentic and real, you wouldn't have to do this. You wouldn't have to say the things that you're saying. You wouldn't have to campaign to us about, yo, she grew up just like y'all, we would know that. We would feel that already. We would be able to tell, like, yeah, absolutely. This is one. When he. When he campaigned with Barack, campaigned, he was like our uncle. He was like our older, you know, cousin and big brother or father. Like, we knew that this was a guy A black man that we could relate to. If it's not translating with black men as far as Kamala, then you have to ask, why is it not translating like that? That's all. But to say, like, yo, you gotta get up, because, yo, she grew up just like y'all. First of all, no, she didn't. And that's just being real. No, she did not. She did not grow up like me or other black men like me in the inner cities. We did not grow up the same. That's just a fact.

[Damaris]

But what my thing is. Why? Why? Why? I feel like it's very.

[Rory]

Which was crazy.

[Damaris]

Rory's insane.

[Julian]

That is like, just. No, I'm sorry. Because it is so insulting to black people.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Julian]

This black radio show, he was like, just bring a bucket of chicken and hand out some chicken.

[Rory]

Are you doing. I felt the same way when Kamala said she washed collard greens in the bathtub.

[Mal]

She said that?

[Rory]

Yeah, she said that. She said, y. I had to cook so much.

[Mal]

That's gross.

[Rory]

She said I had to cook so much greens one holiday, I had to wash it in the bathtub. Exactly what she said. My mother had to cook collard greens a lot of occasions for a lot of people. And one thing I never came home and saw was collard greens in the fucking bathtub. Cut this shit, man. Cut this shit. That's all I'm saying. It's just like, cut this shit. Like, we don't.

[Mal]

That's tough to say when it comes to politics, period, because they're all full of shit.

[Rory]

But don't. Don't be full of shit and then try to make it connect to my culture, is what I'm saying.

[Mal]

You know, Empty man. Okay, but even.

[Rory]

No.

[Julian]

For the suffering of other people.

[Damaris]

Have you no sense of.

[Mal]

That's like me when I do my fake Jamaican accent on the podcast. But no, also, again, that's politics. I agree it's foul with her. But also, Trump has tried to make himself seem like he's this good old boy American. You're a billionaire from Queens. Like, stop saying you're so relatable to the poor whites in Ohio. You're not. He's trying to make himself seem like one of those people, the same way she's trying to make herself seem like another type of person. It's politics.

[Rory]

I don't know.

[Mal]

They're all full shit.

[Rory]

I don't know if Trump has ever said he's like the poor whites from Ohio. I don't know if he's ever said that.

[Mal]

Not in that exact verb.

[Rory]

I'm just saying. I don't know if he's.

[Julian]

Yeah, but he's like, I represent America.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Julian]

Like, nothing.

[Mal]

The whole maga movement started with that demo because he was so relatable to them.

[Rory]

I'm just saying, he's the swamp. Like, I just. I just don't. You know, to me, seeing Barack, you know, play the skin card is just. You didn't do that when you ran for president. Don't do it now. That's all. That's all I'm saying. Vote for whoever you want to vote for. November 5th election. Go out and vote, you know, whoever you vote for. Great. No, that's none of my business, but I just don't like to see Barack playing the skin card when you didn't do that when we was voting for you in 2008. So that's the only thing I like.

[Mal]

I introduced him, though.

[Rory]

And I didn't even like the way he was rapping those lyrics. Vomit on the sweater already, Mom. Spaghetti. What? Like, that don't sound like that.

[Mal]

That wasn't the pocket.

[Rory]

Oh, man, he sound. He sound like.

[Mal]

He sound like.

[Rory]

What's the name in Tropic?

[Damaris]

Th.

[Rory]

Him. It's like, come on, what are you doing? Like that. That sounded crazy, man.

[Mal]

Admittedly, I did not watch this.

[Rory]

A lot of rallies, so I don't usually get nervous.

[Julian]

Tease it up nice.

[Mal]

But I was an amazing public speaker.

[Rory]

Damn. I notice my palms are sweaty. Palms are sweat, knees, weak arms are heavy. Arms of heaven have it on my sweater already. More spaghetti. Spaghetti.

[Mal]

Don't do it. In the cadence of I have a dream when you're bringing out Eminem, talking about throwing up on himself.

[Rory]

What the is this?

[Mal]

I didn't.

[Damaris]

I hadn't heard this. That is hilarious.

[Rory]

Come on, fam. What are we doing right now?

[Mal]

God.

[Rory]

Y. Don't. This. This is not a movie.

[Damaris]

Like, I thought Ball was being dramatic.

[Rory]

What? I could never make that up. That's exactly what he did. This is shit that's going on right now. They talk about, go vote. What is this? Who am I voting for?

[Mal]

I mean.

[Damaris]

Oh, my God.

[Mal]

That is b. Rabbit was pretty much MLK's dreams.

[Rory]

This is craziness, man. This is. This is pure.

[Damaris]

No, Obama ate that, though.

[Rory]

No, he did not, man. He made himself look crazy. I know. His daughters was like, dad, come on, dad, you think?

[Mal]

Well, they were doing that his whole campaign. They were always. Yeah, always, like, cringe.

[Julian]

Dad, you think M's got motion in Michigan to swing the vote?

[Rory]

Fuck no. Hell, no, man. Michigan been through so much, you guys.

[Mal]

So, you guys, we've had this debate. I'm still going to live. Ignorance is bliss. I still don't think celebrities move the vote.

[Julian]

I don't either. I think it's embarrassing that they even do this.

[Mal]

We. We argued about however many episodes ago, and you guys said I was naive. I really don't think Kim Kardashian is moving votes. The only human being, period, maybe, would be Taylor Swift, maybe. But I don't think celebrities move the vote the way politicians think they do. I think it just looks cool to be next to them.

[Rory]

It looks cool, but then that's them trying to tap into a whole demographic and audience.

[Mal]

I think it's more for the celebrities of getting in to a space they're not in.

[Damaris]

Well, maybe it's not.

[Mal]

Let me go lobby with this person.

[Rory]

It's just corny to see rappers, like, be so involved in politics.

[Mal]

Oh, please. You loved Chef G in the Bronx with Trump.

[Rory]

I thought that was dope for them. Not.

[Damaris]

Not for hip hop, but hip hop.

[Rory]

For them being too young.

[Mal]

You love little pump with Trump being.

[Rory]

Young kids from Brooklyn that was in prison and all this other. Now they're home and they Trump. They're on the stage with Trump. Like, I think good look for them.

[Mal]

I think in theory, it's great for rappers to get behind candidates that they think will actually change the communities they come from. I think that in theory would be great, but that's kind of like a fairy tale that would never exist. But yeah, I guess awareness in that regard is. But Eminem is not changing anyone's vote. Kim Kardashian's not changing anyone's vote.

[Damaris]

I don't think it's about changing. I could be wrong, but I don't think it's about changing votes. I look at that. I look at stuff like this almost as, like, at the same way an ad or like a commercial is, because being that Eminem went and did that, we are now sitting here talking to our audience about politics. They're going to vote for who they're going to vote for, but you know which demographic is more likely to vote this way. So you get these people in front of this demographic just to remind them to vote. It's not trying to sway their vote. It's just to remind them to vote, because more than likely, they're going to. This demographic that listens to this person is going to vote this way. I think it's advertising.

[Mal]

That's a good point. I mean, especially With. With Puff. Fuck him. But that voter died. Shit. Trl, everything.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Mal]

That got a lot of young people to vote Democrat.

[Julian]

We historically, as a country, have embarrassingly low voting turnout rates.

[Mal]

I think as far as first world countries, the lowest.

[Julian]

We're the worst. Yeah.

[Mal]

And that's why, like, it's not. It's not so much the undecided vote. Like, I think people have this theory that people in the middle like myself, we are the ones that swing elections. No, it's really just who from each party actually shows up to the polls. Yeah, of course, yes. In swing states, sure. Let's make sure the person in the middle comes on our side. But that has very little impact the way people think it does. It's just getting people to the poll. So I, I. You're right in your point. I guess celebrities will encourage. Encourage people to get there.

[Rory]

Vomit on the sweater already. Mom's spaghetti. He's nervous, but on the surface, he looks calm and ready. What? That's Eminem, Not Martin Luther.

[Julian]

The King.

[Damaris]

The Yo King. That was actually very, very funny.

[Rory]

That's like a SNL skit. That felt like an SNL skit, bro. I could see that on snl, not like real life, like Barack. Really? He really did that? Like, insane.

[Julian]

Damn, this country's bad.

[Mal]

We're weeks away.

[Rory]

I get it. Go out and vote, man.

[Mal]

But I'm also with you on the Beyonce thing. I. I saw the reports this morning, too.

[Rory]

I was like, I don't believe it.

[Mal]

I don't know if I see this happening.

[Damaris]

I don't not believe it.

[Rory]

The older I get, the more I understand Jordan back in the day when he never spoke on politics. I get it now. I understand it. And when everybody, I remember everybody killed Jordan, he wasn't speaking out on politics. And this, that third, he was like, I don't. That's not really my thing.

[Mal]

There's a difference between politics and issues. Like, I do think people with a voice should speak up on issues. You don't necessarily have to like Bron, whether you like him or not, think he should shut up a dribble or not. He speaks up about issues. Not always politics. Jordan just shut the up. Like, he didn't say anything.

[Rory]

But I understand it.

[Mal]

I get the politics side, but I.

[Rory]

Understand it when it's not your thing and it's not like, yo, I'm staying. I'm not getting into that. I'm not using my influence and my platform and my likeness to tell people who to vote for. I'm not doing that.

[Mal]

I get that. But he did tell on himself. It wasn't from that stance that you're explaining. He straight up said, I mean, Republicans buy sneakers too. I'm not. I'm just trying to sell sneakers.

[Rory]

That's all.

[Mal]

I don't want to say a word to up anything.

[Rory]

I'm so. I'm here for. I'm here to play ball, sell sneakers.

[Mal]

Speaking of Beyonce, how much money does she think we have?

[Rory]

She gonna find out.

[Mal]

How many products from Beyonce can I buy in one month?

[Damaris]

When the last time you bought a Beyonce product?

[Rory]

The album.

[Mal]

I bought the album.

[Julian]

Did you?

[Mal]

I still purchase albums.

[Damaris]

Like, yeah, I purchased albums of people I know you purchased.

[Rory]

Wait, what?

[Damaris]

Of people I know. I purchased albums of people I know.

[Rory]

Oh, okay. Yeah.

[Damaris]

If I know you, I'll buy your album.

[Julian]

Beyonce.

[Rory]

I thought she was saying, like, that's the only type of music she consumes. I'm about to be like, what?

[Julian]

Beyond. They're taking a second crack at a fragrance.

[Damaris]

I can't wait to buy it. Sentence to the group chat at 8am.

[Mal]

I'm sure it smells great. I'm sure the whiskey is good. It's just, like.

[Julian]

Still haven't had that whiskey.

[Damaris]

The other one on right now, actually.

[Rory]

You want Beyonce's perfume right now?

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

What is it called?

[Julian]

What's that for, like, 2008?

[Damaris]

Say noir.

[Rory]

Say Noir.

[Julian]

I thought that was the whiskey's name.

[Damaris]

No, that's Sir Davis. Oh, say Noir. Came out about a year ago around Christmas. She get us every Christmas.

[Mal]

I like her name in that because I'm sure Hov could come up with at least 15 entendres with that. Say any more? Rhymes with mad shit.

[Rory]

And this is say Lumiere.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Oh, yeah. Hov is gonna. He's gonna smoke those two names together. Roomy and sir are somehow gonna be in between those two.

[Damaris]

I see it. I see it.

[Julian]

60 a bottle. Is that like, a standard for a perfume?

[Damaris]

For a luxury perfume?

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

And it's really. It smells really, really good.

[Mal]

Joe Malone be cracking my head.

[Rory]

Smells good. Yeah.

[Damaris]

Playing around.

[Julian]

No.

[Damaris]

It smells good. Hey, he can't hate it. Smells good.

[Mal]

I actually had to pause first. I was like, what y'all about to do?

[Damaris]

No, he sniffed it.

[Julian]

I licked it. Yeah.

[Damaris]

Yeah. But it does smell good.

[Rory]

Okay.

[Damaris]

So I can't wait to smell the new one. She be in our pockets bad. It's hard being a Beyonce fan but her shit. But I don't. So when Beyonce comes out with shit, I don't mind buying it, because I know it's gonna be quality, so I don't care.

[Julian]

Yeah, that's true.

[Mal]

Like what? She's probably gonna have a tour in 2025.

[Julian]

Like all your fun tokens.

[Mal]

And what's annoying with Beyonce, all her merch is like fire too. Yep. Yes, that's annoying. Like give. Give us like a six month break. Like let it stack up and then come back.

[Rory]

You gonna wear your Beyonce perfume to the concert?

[Damaris]

Yeah, for sure.

[Mal]

That whole stadium is gonna smell like that every. Every single person.

[Rory]

That's how you get in. Let me smell you. Yep, that's Saint Lumiere. That's Pierre Cardin.

[Mal]

Nope, he's got the little cardboard thing. Yes, you.

[Rory]

Yeah. She wearing that. Salumiere let her in.

[Julian]

Well, in. In speaking of someone that's not going to hit you over the head with a high cost ticket, we had a very, very good conversation about Tyler, the creator on Patreon. Yeah, that comes out Monday.

[Mal]

That I day before his album.

[Julian]

Really encouraged from a copia to check out. It's a. It's a very educational and informative conversation.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Tyler fan. It was a good conversation.

[Julian]

We're not going to get into that. But he is. He just announced today that he's going to do a listening party at the Inuit in intuit dome in LA and he's doing $5 tickets.

[Rory]

I can't wait to see that arena. Like get to la, see that new arena.

[Mal]

So can you give me the backstory on that arena? That's new.

[Rory]

That's the Clippers new.

[Mal]

Okay, I wasn't familiar.

[Julian]

It's going to be the.

[Mal]

Where's it at in la?

[Rory]

Inglewood.

[Mal]

Oh, so it's where the old stadium was or where the Forum is.

[Rory]

Not too far, I'm thinking. I don't think it's too far. It is in Inglewood, right?

[Julian]

Yeah, yeah. Two billion dollar dome, three stadiums.

[Rory]

Now the SOFI stadium, Intuit Dome. And the form is still in Englewood, right? Yeah, yeah.

[Mal]

Oh, I know. That Inglewood family's eating off those tourists. Yeah, it's a dangerous area. Just throw some, some stage.

[Rory]

That's. That's the thing. It ain't cleaning that up.

[Julian]

No, they're. They're okay. They're doing it.

[Mal]

You could put the Barclays right there in Brooklyn. Go three blocks.

[Rory]

I mean, that's anywhere though. That's anywhere. You go four blocks, anywhere the wrong way and you into some shit.

[Mal]

Yeah, well, yeah. I didn't know that this was a whole new thing. I wasn't paying attention. But I am excited. I Hope they stream this.

[Rory]

I'm sure they will.

[Mal]

Who do we think pops up chromacopia canon them? Do we think all the features will be there live? I think Tyler did say that he wasn't performing. He will just be standing in the middle of the venue lip singing to new sounds. This event cost $5.

[Rory]

Well, yeah, $5 to get in. I'm not performing either. Y'all gonna hit his music though.

[Mal]

I mean, it's a listening session.

[Rory]

Yeah, I'm not performing.

[Mal]

Also, I will say as a fan, a fan of any artist at the Garden years ago, which I was so mad I missed, as a fan of music, I wouldn't want to hear an album for the first time with an artist performing it. No, I would prefer that Tyler hits play on his iPhone. It just gives us cool visuals. I wanna hear the music and if.

[Rory]

It'S hard, like, if it's dope, it stop it. Yeah. Started from the top.

[Mal]

Like, I mean, the moment. The moment Cudi and Kanye had at the Garden for Father Stretch My arms was like one of the coolest listening moments ever. It was around the time that the Kardashians dragged immensely in stable Lamar Odom in front of 20, 000 people.

[Rory]

But the only thing I don't like about that is fans are not gonna be honest there. Because first of all, anybody going to that is a Tyler fan. So if he starts playing music from the album and you don't like it, you ain't gonna boo. You ain't gonna be like, next track.

[Mal]

I've been to y'all listening sessions. No one has ever.

[Rory]

That's what I'm saying.

[Mal]

I've definitely thought in my head, like, this one ain't it can't wait for this song to be done to go to the next one.

[Rory]

Yeah, but it say that. Yell that at the end to it, though.

[Julian]

At the end.

[Rory]

Next track, like, why not?

[Julian]

If that trash staying on Tyler. He announced the 10 year anniversary of Camp Flogna. The lineup was. It was done in a really cool way. Did a crossword.

[Mal]

Yeah, it was cool.

[Rory]

But like, whoever name you see first, you should get free tickets to go to see the performance. Who the is Omar Apollo? Yo, first name I saw now I.

[Mal]

Very talented Art.

[Rory]

Yeah, I with Omar.

[Mal]

That was really dope. Yeah, I did like the layout. I thought it was a really cool idea. But like, as an adult with responsibilities, just. Just list me out. Who's there?

[Rory]

You said who?

[Mal]

As an adult with responsibilities, I didn't have time to just go through.

[Rory]

Oh, they go Your man Tommy Richmond. Dochi. Okay.

[Julian]

And they're connected.

[Rory]

That's hip hop.

[Mal]

I see Jordan Ward, my guy Blood.

[Julian]

Orange, he's got three stacks.

[Damaris]

Sexy rap.

[Julian]

Ooh, Mike G. Nice. Mustard Blood Orange.

[Rory]

Okay.

[Mal]

I'm so happy that Three Stacks is living in its purpose, but he's on like 15 festivals.

[Julian]

MF doom is on here.

[Mal]

Where do you see that?

[Rory]

Right here.

[Julian]

17 down.

[Rory]

Oh, yeah. Okay.

[Mal]

Curious how the they're doing, like a tribute. Oh, it's a tribute.

[Rory]

Okay.

[Julian]

Okay.

[Mal]

Well, I mean, I know Earl and Tyler were huge Doom fans. That makes sense.

[Rory]

Absolutely.

[Julian]

Schoolboy, Q Mall, Denzel Curry, Mustard, Erykah Badu.

[Mal]

Yo, first of all, on that Drake fan page, they listed out all his ops in a alphabetical order.

[Damaris]

It's just.

[Mal]

Rory, what the fuck you say? Like, why am I on that shit?

[Damaris]

That shit had me crying.

[Rory]

You talking greasy.

[Mal]

No, I don't.

[Rory]

You do.

[Mal]

I'm an objective fan.

[Rory]

No, but you be talking.

[Julian]

Can't be objective. Rory, 2024.

[Damaris]

That's not fair that you on there.

[Rory]

And low.

[Damaris]

Not low should be on there.

[Mal]

True. Yeah, Low is definitely te.

[Julian]

It's a long ass list. Damn, you got mad ops.

[Mal]

Say fuck me for. I saw mine. I was laughing at.

[Damaris]

Chad Dorsey sent me.

[Mal]

I started laughing at it because it was in alphabetical order and kept scrolling and then saw my name. I was like, he's in between right after.

[Rory]

Rockefeller is crazy.

[Julian]

It's Rockefeller, Roddy Rich, Rory, Russell, Westbrook.

[Mal]

Now the Rs is go through the whole Rs. I think the Rs is killing it. Rihanna, Rick Ross, Rockefeller, Roddy Rich, Rory Russell, Westbrook. That's a pretty good lineup. As far as the other letters of.

[Julian]

The album, look at this. The NBA, the NFL, everybody. The MTV, VMAs, the Grammys.

[Rory]

It's up with everybody that.

[Mal]

Yo, I still can't get out of my mind. That mall said someone should boo if they don't like a song at a listening session.

[Rory]

Yeah, that. Turn that off. That ain't it. Like why we just can't be honest and yell, like. Certain.

[Damaris]

You didn't do that at Rory's when he was doing his speech?

[Mal]

Because when he clowned me for a year and a half about it, I come.

[Rory]

Because you said you wasn't gonna speak and then you spoke for two hours. Me and Raven was in the background. I was like, Raven, you know, he about to talk for two hours. She was like, 100%.

[Mal]

And that. See, that's not fair because that's one of my close friends. That just talks shit about me to my face. Don't, like, team up with the person that shits on me the most.

[Damaris]

Why you keep pointing?

[Rory]

Because me and Ravi was back there, and we just knew Rory was about to give the long. He was like, I'm not talk. Come on. I just. I just. I just text you earlier. Y'all are my friends. My friends are here. Me and Ravi, like, watch this.

[Mal]

Okay?

[Rory]

I was.

[Mal]

I was forced to talk, but if you're going to do something, do it 100%.

[Damaris]

Give y all.

[Mal]

So if I'm going to do it, why not?

[Rory]

Then he say like that and how I refuse. I can't. I can't. Can't debate that. That's like, somebody like, where you from? I'm from the blood of Christ. All right, you gonna beat this up. You can't beat a up that say something like that.

[Julian]

It's like when lrae kick talking about.

[Rory]

Yo, Jesus loves you. We can't shoot the that says Jesus loves us. We got to say, yo, close the door. Like.

[Mal]

It's my only like response to two people that know me very well and can clown me accurately. Those are the worst people. The people that know you and can clown you accurately.

[Rory]

It's the best.

[Mal]

You know, he about to just ramble for the next.

[Rory]

I said, he's not putting that mic there. I'm let y'all know right now we are not getting that microphone back.

[Mal]

What's a listening session you've been to that you would boo? I've been to a lot of listening sessions.

[Rory]

Snitch that I would boo.

[Mal]

That you thought in your head, maybe I should boo.

[Rory]

I'm unknown artist. I've never been to, like, a. A known artist listening session. It was like, yo, this is trash. But we did go to a movie screening once. It was trash. I think I talked about that before, didn't I?

[Mal]

No.

[Rory]

God bless. We went to the movie screening. Charlie Murphy was screening a movie downtown years ago, and me, Biggs, Dame a few of us went. And he was playing the movie. And it started off funny. The first ten minutes was funny. But then it just went bad. And God bless Charlie Murphy legend, but that shit was bad. But we. It's Charlie, though, and he's sitting in there in the room with us. We all watching it together. We ain't want to say this shit was trash there. Cause we fuck with Charlie and we love him. But when we got back in the car, we was like, yo, that shit was bad, man. That was one time where I would have Been like, yo, can we turn this off? Like, this ain't really it.

[Mal]

Yo. This wasn't a listening session per se. I went to that. I pick downtown. Swizz and Nas were premiering the Echo video.

[Rory]

Okay.

[Mal]

Which is, to me, a classic song.

[Rory]

Okay.

[Mal]

And I was like, I mean, that's kind of. It's like four minutes, but it. Swizz and Nas are gonna be there, intimate. I'm a fan. So we go, we watch it. And of course, the song is four minutes, so it's a very quick event. And they're like, we'll play it again. I was like, mix. I mean, you gotta fill some time here. It's one song.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Then they come out to do a Q A and a Q A from one song. Yeah. Amazing video and amazing song. And it's Swizz and Nas. Like it. Let's talk about anything.

[Rory]

Let's make it.

[Mal]

I. I want to say Swizz misspoke. I hope to God he misspoke. But it was the most awkward Q A because NASA just put out his album with Kanye. What was the name of that album? I hate to say bad words about Nas.

[Rory]

The Sevens track Joint. Yeah.

[Mal]

Not really my favorite. Oh, Nazir. So that had just came out, and I forgot what the first question was, but Swizz was like, yeah. I mean, Echo. Some people are saying, like, this song is better than, like, the whole Nazir album. Nas is sitting next to him.

[Damaris]

That's up.

[Mal]

I think I was with Low. And we looked at each other like, did he just say that?

[Rory]

Swiss thought he was giving a compliment.

[Mal]

Yes.

[Rory]

It's like, fam. This one song is better than his whole last album. That's crazy.

[Julian]

The opening shot of this video is Rory at the club by myself, giving it. Giving a toast.

[Mal]

Oh, I mean, naturally, with the wine glass. I saw Elliot had just posted a photo of the 12 year anniversary of Good Kid Mad City. In that listening session. I was there. That was one of my favorite listening sessions. I was at Chung King. I left the 444 listening session the moment Kill. Jay Z started and he started rapping about Solange. I. I left the spot to go get an Uber and listen to it, like, with my headphones on.

[Rory]

You didn't want to hear that in person.

[Mal]

He started going. I said, nah, I'm not staying at the 4040 club for this.

[Rory]

Yeah, let me get out of here.

[Mal]

I'm not here to party.

[Rory]

Oh, man. Hey, Julian.

[Julian]

Yep. We got any voicemails that time, isn't it?

[Mal]

There's one From Nasir.

[Rory]

You've got mail. Look at that.

[Julian]

We're not playing that one. Okay. Yeah, so we ended on a really sad note last time. So let's. Let's pick up the.

[Rory]

Oh, and a friend of mine that follows me, she's a. She's a actual therapist, and she is willing to offer therapy to that young man.

[Mal]

Oh, do you still have his email? Let's.

[Julian]

I never had. I never have the. I didn't get the email. If he could, like, I told him to DM me or the POD account me would be better. But if you did call back in and leave your email, like the callback.

[Rory]

Leave me email. Got somebody that's willing to, you know, sit and talk with you and love that, you know, I mean, get you some. Get you back on the. On the right path mentally.

[Julian]

For free, by the way.

[Rory]

Yeah. So just, you know, I mean, like, make sure we get your information so we can reach out to you.

[Mal]

I love that. Also, Julian, I assume that couple never.

[Julian]

Reached back out, so I haven't gotten it yet.

[Rory]

No.

[Mal]

If you guys are listening, the Rosenbergs and Chevy Chase, please email us.

[Rory]

All right. Is this. Is this kind of petty to have this grudge? So when I was younger, my Finding Nemo came out at the time. My name is Chemo. My parents divorced around that time, so I went to school with my cousins, and they. They used to tell me, hey, Chemo, go find your dad. I use the lines from Nemo to insinuate that I'm looking for my dad, and I harvest that resentment for the movie. I just want to know, am I bugging for harboring a resentment for a movie that. That had catastrophic trauma towards me that had. I had to go to therapy for that? But, yeah, am I crazy for harping in that resentment towards a movie?

[Mal]

Chemo, you were. You were raised in the right era and you had the right friends.

[Julian]

Yep.

[Mal]

That probably built some character.

[Rory]

And your dad left. We. We tying that together.

[Mal]

Teed up.

[Rory]

What am I supposed to do? Act like that ain't that don't go together.

[Mal]

I'll throw an alley and I won't dunk.

[Julian]

His name's Kima. Wait till his hair falls out.

[Rory]

See, this is what Julian. He. Sometimes he.

[Julian]

Well, I'm like his cousin.

[Rory]

Like, he knows where the line is, and then he just.

[Julian]

I'll have family, cousins.

[Rory]

It overhand smash.

[Julian]

Can't find his dad or the hair.

[Mal]

As the late Charlie Murphy would say, he's a habitual line stuff.

[Rory]

Yeah. Like. Like, what's up with you?

[Mal]

Man, I mean, I'm glad. I'm glad he got the therapy through that traumatic. But, I mean, I don't know. That's. I'm not sure how old he is. My friends make fun of me all the time for similar.

[Rory]

My friends still make fun of me. My homeboy is locked up doing 16 years, and every time he calls me, he insults me. Yeah, I'm like, you know, where you calling me from? Like, the. How you call me? Talking greasy. You in jail?

[Julian]

Go get more dimes.

[Rory]

Like, what are you talking about? But that's what friends supposed to do. We supposed to tease, you talk. But like I said, we the only ones that could do it. Yeah, the ops can't do it. Anybody else better not talk about you.

[Damaris]

You can't be mad at your friends and mad at the movie because your dad left. That's what you really mad at. You mad?

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

You mad cause your dad left?

[Rory]

Yeah. And we beat your dad up.

[Julian]

That's a great movie, too.

[Mal]

I don't know where that ties in.

[Damaris]

It's such a good movie.

[Mal]

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

[Julian]

For sure.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Yeah. You left, my friend.

[Mal]

Yeah. It's not Dory's fault. It's your dad's fault.

[Rory]

Yeah, let's jump your father when he come back for Thanksgiving.

[Damaris]

Dory don't remember that your dad left.

[Mal]

For real.

[Julian]

I was gonna say she had a bad memory.

[Mal]

That could be your therapy. Be more like Dory. And I like Nemo.

[Julian]

Oh, I. Speaking of, since Ron Pixar, I watch Inside out, too. Finally.

[Damaris]

You cried. Did you cry?

[Julian]

I didn't cry. No.

[Damaris]

Really?

[Rory]

Such a great movie.

[Damaris]

Do you suffer from anxiety, though?

[Julian]

I mean, everyone od, but, like.

[Damaris]

Yeah, yeah.

[Julian]

The anxiety is the new personality that steals the show. This. This is her.

[Rory]

That's anxiety.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Rory]

The Pixie cut.

[Julian]

She smokes it.

[Damaris]

No, that's Joy.

[Julian]

That's Joy.

[Rory]

Oh, Anxiety is the other one with the.

[Mal]

The one that looks like me.

[Julian]

The one that looks like me.

[Rory]

The one that looks like Rory.

[Julian]

Yeah. Yeah. This is Rory.

[Mal]

Thank you for giving Peach the new artwork. Great.

[Julian]

That is Rory.

[Rory]

That is Rory. Definitely.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

You guys still haven't seen it?

[Mal]

No, I haven't.

[Rory]

I hate Rory.

[Damaris]

You definitely need to watch it.

[Julian]

Or you should. It's really, really good.

[Rory]

You might cry, though.

[Damaris]

And you could watch it with Amar, because she'll like it because it's, like, bright colors and noises and stuff. But it's made for adults.

[Julian]

It really is an adult anxiety out the gate. Yeah.

[Mal]

What's the Overall?

[Rory]

But it's Supposed to teach kids how to identify with their emotions. Right? Is that what you're supposed to do?

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

So the original.

[Julian]

The girl. Damn. What's her name? I don't remember the little girl's name in the movie. It doesn't really matter. But she is young in the first one and then moves to. She moves from Michigan to San Francisco in this. And that's where we pick up in the second one. And now she's older. She's a teenager, so she's in middle school. And as one does like she, you know, like it's getting her period. And then she takes on anxiety and like all these new emotions come into. Into play as she becomes older, as she enters her teenage years.

[Mal]

How do cartoons get.

[Rory]

Never mind.

[Julian]

They're people. No, they're so they're worth. This is inside her mind.

[Mal]

Okay.

[Julian]

She's a real girl.

[Mal]

Okay, so she has a real.

[Damaris]

But those are her emotions, are the characters are her emotions. Like I said, Joy, anxiety. There's nostalgia that keeps trying to pop out a little bit too early.

[Mal]

Is there an actual period?

[Julian]

This is the girl. So you're kind of tousling between her real life, which is. This is her. And then in her mind are the emotions.

[Mal]

Okay, so it's like a big mouth.

[Damaris]

Kinda. Yeah, a lot. But. But nicer.

[Mal]

Yes, I get it.

[Damaris]

Freaky.

[Mal]

I'll watch it.

[Julian]

It's really good. Yeah, they. This broke a bunch of box office stuff too.

[Rory]

Are you sure? Because Rory said that yesterday and we don't.

[Damaris]

Wait, what happened yesterday?

[Rory]

We debunked that whole thing.

[Julian]

Funniest moments on Patreon.

[Damaris]

What happened?

[Rory]

Rory just. He jumped out with some info.

[Mal]

Sometimes you gotta kill.

[Rory]

Now listen. Swing. Swing. You know I'm a fan. Just swing it. Just can y'all.

[Damaris]

Okay.

[Julian]

Some video. Some music video.

[Rory]

He said some music video broke. All kind of like. Like YouTube records. Like most viewed one of the most views and we looked at it.

[Mal]

What was the music video they have to go on? Patreon.

[Rory]

Patreon. It's hilarious.

[Mal]

I will say we.

[Rory]

We. Look, he looked that video up. That had 28 million.

[Mal]

Ari shaking her ass has more views today than it was.

[Julian]

It was such an egregious like, just.

[Mal]

And I think I used the word. I think I said shattered.

[Julian]

Yeah, he said it shattered. Right?

[Rory]

And.

[Julian]

I just Google real. I just go to the YouTube and look and I was like, it has 28 million.

[Mal]

And I was still confident. That must be another page. That's their vivo.

[Rory]

Roy was like, that's not their vivo. Though I'm like, what? That's. That's their page. What the are you talking about?

[Mal]

Yes. Go to Patreon to see that full combo. Very funny.

[Rory]

So funny. Video is cool, though. It's a cool video.

[Mal]

One of those combos. You just had to sit there silently and shut the up because you know you're wrong.

[Rory]

That was pure.

[Julian]

That was.

[Rory]

That was classic.

[Julian]

Talk about our caller getting smoked. We smoke Roy for like 10 minutes after.

[Rory]

Oh, my God. But that's like classic. That's what happens in the barbershop. Barbershop facts is crazy. The. We stayed in the barbershop, like, what?

[Mal]

And then you don't even reply to it because you don't even want to go down.

[Rory]

Yeah, you like, you be in your.

[Mal]

Head, like, wow, that was the dumbest thing I've ever heard. But I'm not going to engage because I don't even want to do this.

[Rory]

Nothing is worse than being in the chair while people in the shop is having a sick ass conversation. And your barber, like, he got to get into it.

[Mal]

Yeah, like, cut my hair.

[Rory]

I'm like, fam, this. This conversation is so dumb. I just want to leave, finish my haircut.

[Julian]

They just float the clippers near your head.

[Rory]

Yeah, they don't cut exactly.

[Julian]

Like Anthony Edwards with that Gatorade. It's a clip.

[Rory]

You just get into the next one.

[Mal]

All right, Nemo, I'm glad you've gotten Chemo.

[Julian]

Nemo.

[Rory]

Kimo Sabi.

[Mal]

I still think he had great friends and I'm glad they were also not his friends.

[Julian]

Those are his cousins and they're also.

[Damaris]

They were kids.

[Rory]

That's what's supposed to happen. Chemo cut this, man. You want to watch, right?

[Julian]

Say something back. Make fun of it.

[Damaris]

But it's not weird that you harbor resentment. It's actually very self aware that you're aware of the fact you harbor.

[Rory]

Harbor.

[Mal]

One of my friends, Wyatt was his name. I told him I was gonna go visit my dad and he replied with, I didn't know you had one.

[Rory]

Love it.

[Julian]

Love it.

[Rory]

Never seen him, never met him. And you know him. Great.

[Mal]

I was like, yeah, how do you think I got here? Like, I got a dad.

[Rory]

And I know.

[Mal]

Why would you even.

[Rory]

We hang out and like, yeah, it's really cool.

[Mal]

And then I had a friend say that my face looks like someone threw shit through a screen door. Like, classic, you know?

[Rory]

Come on. Classic.

[Mal]

My freckles aren't that bad.

[Rory]

No, they're not.

[Mal]

Anyways, next one. I had left out some information.

[Rory]

Forgot who the is that. What was the first information? Hey, what's good Mall? The marriage. Rory Julian is Christian, 22 year old.

[Mal]

I called him before about tricking. Rory said to get one off for.

[Rory]

Us in the money. Great advice.

[Mal]

I recently started talking to this Middle Eastern shorty again. I've known her since high school on and off. She always gets a boyfriend.

[Julian]

Ironically, their wife, she says she's taking.

[Mal]

Care of all her family and she's.

[Rory]

Too busy to text back and all that stuff. But I don't know if that's true. You know, I had sent her 200.

[Julian]

Bones for an ass picture and some titty pictures.

[Mal]

I didn't see anything.

[Rory]

The nipples were covered up. She had a thong on all that.

[Julian]

She said she's too busy to hang.

[Mal]

Out and you know all that stuff. But I just want to know do.

[Julian]

You think she's too busy or.

[Mal]

She does not feeling the 200.

[Damaris]

I didn't even know they make like me still out here. They still out here.

[Rory]

They.

[Mal]

You paid 200 for a photo?

[Julian]

I'm not gonna.

[Mal]

Of course she's not feeling you.

[Julian]

I'm not gonna play the second one. But he called again and said she wants this thing which I'm sure Demaris has heard of, called a boo basket.

[Damaris]

I've never heard of that.

[Julian]

Well, it's filled with like candy, flowers, blankets, etc. It's basically just like a gift basket full of it. And he said, should he call this a dub and get another Middle Eastern shoddy is what he said. He said, but she's also a black belt and he thinks that's cool. He said he's also never had a Japanese woman and he thinks those are high on his list too.

[Mal]

Oh, so he just might be an early.

[Rory]

He's just a trick. He's just a trick and he's just willing to.

[Julian]

He said, I never tried Japanese. That's how he said it, by the way. Yeah, he said it like it was like a food dish.

[Mal]

Nemo, can you.

[Damaris]

I'm not saying.

[Mal]

The therapist that you met with.

[Damaris]

I know there was still real left.

[Julian]

Shout out to the Middle Eastern woman. I hope she's Lebanese.

[Rory]

What?

[Mal]

I mean gang, you're. It's like herb. Like he. You're a mark.

[Rory]

No, he's a trick.

[Julian]

Well, he's going off the information. You can.

[Damaris]

No, but I know. I know tricks. There's tricks and there's marks. He give mark.

[Rory]

Yeah, he's on the mark.

[Mal]

He's not.

[Rory]

He's not in front of the girl.

[Julian]

To trick more cast.

[Rory]

He's a trick.

[Mal]

What was the advice I gave him? I didn't understand.

[Julian]

Remember, he said, I just came into a little bit of money, like, I'm for work. And he said, I'm doing really well for myself. And he said, you know, I'm feeling myself, and I kind of want to start just spending it on women. And you were like, that's not what I mentally said, yeah, bro, do your thing, king.

[Mal]

And you want to go out.

[Damaris]

No, Rory said, beat off before you do that. Horny.

[Rory]

That's what money. It didn't be like, yo, I just want to, you know, spend money on women. That is a mental disease, bro. That's where your mind went.

[Mal]

No, that's not the mental disease. It's paying 200 for a nude. And she just sends a half nude photo and then goes, do you guys think she's feeling me?

[Julian]

She probably has more risque photos on her Instagram.

[Mal]

You paid 200 for a regular photo and asked, do you think she feeling me? No.

[Damaris]

And that's.

[Mal]

We don't have to prolong this one.

[Rory]

No.

[Damaris]

That's the difference between a mark and a trick. Because a trick knows, like, they already know what it's hitting for. They know the game. A mark is just like, oh, you a horny. That's getting taken advantage of.

[Rory]

Yeah, he's both of them. He's all of those things. This nigga's a unicorn. He's a marketer. Trick. He's a mick.

[Damaris]

Ass.

[Mal]

This is racist. This is.

[Rory]

Damn. I ain't even.

[Damaris]

Oh, my bad.

[Mal]

Yo, Nemo. Nemo, I need your therapist.

[Rory]

You know, my friends be.

[Mal]

Treat me like I wasn't trying to tie that. I was crazy, man.

[Rory]

That's definitely not what I was trying to do.

[Mal]

Mick is pretty much the same as the N word.

[Rory]

My bad. I'm so sorry.

[Julian]

There's no difference.

[Rory]

Yeah, I'm. My bad. I'm sorry. So sorry. She's the exact same thing.

[Damaris]

I want to feel bad for him, but he keeps referencing women by Women by their race. Like. Like, it's a. I'm telling you, I'm.

[Rory]

He.

[Julian]

I'm doing him a favor by not playing the second one. It's really. He's talking about him like he's at, like, a buffet.

[Rory]

And he's like, I already know Middle.

[Julian]

Eastern is a black belt to do with anything.

[Mal]

It would have been worse if he assumed the Japanese one was.

[Rory]

Yo, this.

[Mal]

I don't know. I feel like she lives in, like, a dojo or some. I don't know.

[Rory]

Yeah, she, like, grew up in a dojo.

[Julian]

She bows.

[Mal]

I went to her house, and I hit a gong to let her know I was there.

[Rory]

Every time I see her, she bows. Yo, man. Yo, what's his name? Christian. Christian, you are a trick. Yo, that is crazy.

[Mal]

That was not the advice I gave him whatsoever. Like, if you got a little bit.

[Rory]

Of money, saying, like, it's tomorrow now. So, yeah, he ready to trick again. Like, he's like, all right, that was cool for yesterday, but, like, it's today.

[Mal]

Maybe he needs to beat off more.

[Julian]

He called five days ago. He definitely got some off in those five days.

[Damaris]

Complaining about the new. Getting the nude after the money and complaining about.

[Rory]

It's not even a nude. I know you can't see no titties and no. What are you. What are you looking at, then?

[Mal]

200 for a thong photo? Yo, open your IG.

[Rory]

Yeah, that's.

[Julian]

That's what I'm saying, bro.

[Rory]

Just.

[Julian]

That's crazy. Maybe he would open her ig.

[Mal]

It doesn't change. Maybe he was expecting, like, more of.

[Rory]

A news, and then. And then he tied.

[Mal]

He should have negotiated. Yo, if you got money, I figure you could negotiate better than that. 200 for some.

[Rory]

His upper thigh, his brain went to. Because she was covering parts up that. Oh, she shy.

[Mal]

She.

[Rory]

She like.

[Mal]

She's trying to tease me. She, like, please stop.

[Rory]

That's where your brain went. Christian, get out the house and wash your hands. All right? And then punishing yourself every night.

[Mal]

Yo, Ma, I kind of want to hear the second one now.

[Julian]

Should I play it? Yeah, all right. I'll play it. Why not? Here you go.

[Rory]

Wait.

[Mal]

Baltimore's back?

[Julian]

Oh, yeah. I was gonna say. I was gonna let you guys know, but here. Let's go to. Here he is.

[Mal]

I had left out some information.

[Rory]

Please.

[Mal]

Forgot to put it in.

[Rory]

Please give us this information.

[Mal]

She wants a boo basket, which is basically just Halloween candy, a blanket, some candles, all that shit, all that flowers and all that.

[Rory]

But she don't want me to send it to her house. She wants to meet me and then take it.

[Mal]

So I don't know if she doesn't want her family to know about me. She doesn't want to know. She doesn't want you to know where she lives.

[Rory]

She said she likes me and I'm cute and all that, but I'm just. I don't know. I think she's trying to stick me for my paper.

[Mal]

For real? You didn't get that?

[Julian]

So should I call this a dub.

[Mal]

And try to find Mr. Shorty?

[Rory]

Or what? Because I'm trying to get certain races off the list. I've done everything.

[Julian]

Wait, this is. He's heating up.

[Mal]

Wait, wait, hold on.

[Rory]

I'm trying to get certain races out of here. Cross them off the list. He sounds like Hitler.

[Mal]

Why? Just.

[Damaris]

What the.

[Julian]

Trying to take them all down.

[Mal]

But look. Look at how he views the girl that he likes.

[Rory]

Likes.

[Mal]

If she's a dub, I'll just go find another Middle Eastern.

[Julian]

Middle Eastern shot.

[Mal]

So, wait, you didn't like her? You just like the idea of a Middle Eastern?

[Rory]

That's it.

[Julian]

Wait a little.

[Rory]

It's so funny. And try to find another Middle Eastern shorty or what? Cause I'm trying to get certain races off the list. I've done everything but Japanese and Middle Eastern.

[Mal]

So I don't know if I'm conflicted just trying to get the Middle Eastern.

[Rory]

Off the list or what.

[Julian]

I mean, I genuinely do like her.

[Rory]

And I can see me going out with.

[Mal]

Because she's like, you know, fine.

[Rory]

Speak multiple languages, black belt, taekwondo, all that cool. But I don't know if she's trying.

[Mal]

To play me for the herd, so. Advice. Great on that.

[Rory]

You sound like Danny McBride.

[Julian]

It's a black belt.

[Rory]

You know, she's liking it. Japanese. And, like, what?

[Mal]

You know what's funny? She's probably not Japanese. She's probably, like, Korean.

[Rory]

Exactly. He's like.

[Mal]

I also want to know what, like, his idea of the race scale is, is. Judging by his ignorance, it's probably just black, white, Middle Eastern, Asian. That's probably how he sees it.

[Rory]

It's all that's out there for him. Crossing him off the list. That's a sick list to be trying to cross off, man. Like, what are you doing? Also, wait, how old is he?

[Julian]

20.

[Rory]

What?

[Julian]

I think 23, 24.

[Rory]

He young. Young.

[Mal]

But also to answer his question, why she wants to meet you in person to get that basket is because she does not want you to know where she lives.

[Julian]

Yeah, true.

[Mal]

It's pretty obvious. And also from my advice, if you do want to, quote, unquote, trick on a woman. Yes. Get her a nice basket and court her. Don't give her 200 for an ass photo.

[Rory]

But he giving a boo basket. They got a blanket to me.

[Mal]

That's fine. I think that's fine.

[Rory]

Who's she going on a picnic with? It ain't him.

[Damaris]

Girls just like, blankets.

[Rory]

Mall in a basket with candy and, like, here. Like.

[Mal]

Like candles, too.

[Rory]

Yeah. Why we ain't gonna put this on the grass right here? Let's Eat this right here.

[Mal]

A bad Middle Eastern joke, but thank you. I'm glad I kept it so much.

[Rory]

I'm glad. I'm glad you kept it to yourself, Rory. Proud of you.

[Damaris]

I want to feel bad for him, but he is not a good person, so I can't.

[Rory]

He's young man, 22. He don't.

[Damaris]

You did like that. 22.

[Rory]

Probably. I probably should check off racing.

[Julian]

I said some wild.

[Rory]

I probably got some wild off when I was 20.

[Mal]

Oh, for sure.

[Julian]

But thank God I didn't have a microphone.

[Mal]

Thank God I didn't have 200 students on the outside.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Like, it's just like that. So I understand. Like, okay, he's just. He wants to experience different types of women. He don't. He's not saying. He's saying in a way where it sounds crazy, but what he's saying is he wants to just experience relationships with different women. Like, I understand that the way he's left that voicemail sounds crazy, but I get it. I understand. It's like, okay, you never dated a. In a Spanish girl you never dated a Asian girl you never dated. All right? That's what you should.

[Damaris]

But if this. If this Spanish one ain't acting right, I'ma just take my ass up the dykeman and get another one.

[Julian]

Yeah, it's like Pokemon.

[Rory]

It sounds crazy the way he's framing it. Yes.

[Damaris]

Or it could just be.

[Rory]

If you want to experience, you know, relationships with a. With a. With a Latin woman, there's nothing wrong with that.

[Mal]

It kind of sounds as crazy as I've had everything from black and white and in between. So. What you mean same type of.

[Rory]

Why did Drake say that he was trying to figure out what homie was saying? Like, I've been with them all, fam.

[Mal]

Like, you know, I didn't need Drake to confirm that he's probably every race at one. I really didn't. I. I think we all assumed that he has fucked black and white and everything in between. Baltimore's back.

[Julian]

Baltimore.

[Rory]

What?

[Julian]

Rory.

[Rory]

Nigga, I said it.

[Julian]

What? Baltimore, if you've been. He's one of our favorite callers, and he has a funny situation, and I think he knows that we love his accent, so he leans in.

[Rory]

How many twos is too much?

[Mal]

Yeah, our next D.C. show. We need to, like, pay for his train ticket. It. He has to come on stage. He's my favorite caller by far.

[Julian]

Yeah. Here he goes to you.

[Rory]

What's up, Rory M. Damaris Julian.

[Mal]

My question is.

[Rory]

Is a little simple. Basically, it's A girl I used to talk to. And, oh, by the way, I'm not 22 no more. I'm 23 now, so you got to.

[Mal]

Hear me say that no more.

[Damaris]

Thank God.

[Rory]

But yeah, girl I used to talk to.

[Mal]

And basically.

[Julian]

Basically, she.

[Rory]

We were going dates here and there, on and off, and she basically asked me one day, hey, do you want to go get sushi?

[Mal]

He's leaning into it now, but I appreciate it.

[Rory]

Damn.

[Julian]

I've never heard someone say that.

[Rory]

Sushi. Did that say sushi?

[Mal]

I've only heard Snoop from the Wire refer to it that way.

[Julian]

Hold on, hold on.

[Rory]

Go get sushi. Basically asked me one day, hey, do you want to go get sushi?

[Damaris]

You.

[Rory]

I said, right now? Not really.

[Damaris]

Cool.

[Rory]

I'm a little broke right now.

[Mal]

Ain't no money really coming in. She responds with, well, who says you have to pay? I said, o, that's a queen.

[Julian]

Nice.

[Rory]

She. She said, okay, so when do you want to go? Do you want to go today? I said, not today. That was like. That was probably like a Tuesday.

[Mal]

She said, okay, what about tomorrow? No, not really. Then I said, can you do Friday?

[Rory]

She said, sure, we go Friday. We go.

[Julian]

We go to downtown Baltimore.

[Rory]

We go eating sushi or whatever.

[Mal]

And the bill comes. I'm still.

[Rory]

I'm still eating. Like, I'm looking face down in my food. I'm not even.

[Mal]

I'm not even looking up right now.

[Rory]

The bill comes like a baddie. She gets to looking at me. I look up, I'm. I still got food on my face. I'm like, what's going on?

[Mal]

She said, are you not gonna pay?

[Rory]

I said, didn't you say you was going to pay? She said to me, that was two.

[Mal]

Days ago, but that was only for that specific day. Okay, well, he has such bad luck with women.

[Rory]

That's crazy.

[Damaris]

I'm making fun of him.

[Julian]

But said they ended up having a small conversation at the dinner table, but then she ended up getting up and getting her wallet out of the car and paying.

[Rory]

He's never gonna see that girl again.

[Mal]

But she is wrong.

[Damaris]

She is wrong for that.

[Mal]

It's definitely wrong.

[Rory]

Yeah, but she offered that two days ago on Tuesday.

[Mal]

What about tomorrow? And then Friday ended up being the day that worked. Like, that's usually the same offer.

[Damaris]

Payday, payday. She did that on purpose.

[Julian]

You said money was.

[Damaris]

Oh, no, he was the one. Oh, yeah, you're right. First of all, somebody offering to take you to a free meal, a girl at that. And you just like, not today. Yeah, not tomorrow. I mean, all right.

[Mal]

Hustle. You get his money up? Needed three days, he ain't pay.

[Rory]

That's wild, Oliver. Like, going out with a girl, you absolutely can't. Can't afford the bill.

[Mal]

Well, first of all, he was honest.

[Damaris]

Anyway.

[Rory]

I won't go out with my friends. I can't pay for that.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Rory]

So, bro, I don't give a. I'm never going, like, all right, they got me. No.

[Julian]

What should he have done them? Because if, say, assuming he still wants to see her and hang out with her, but he's like, I just can't afford a dinner right now.

[Rory]

Sound like you might have to. You might have to put some. Some turkey sandwiches on the. In the crib or something. Something light. It got to be something at the crib. I'm broke.

[Damaris]

Are y'all both poor?

[Julian]

Clearly, she's got.

[Rory]

If I'm poor, I don't give a. Who ain't poor. I'm poor.

[Damaris]

No, I get what you're saying, but what I'm saying is, are y'all both poor? Because if y'all are both poor, then y'all need to, like, you know, y'all can, like, work together to climb out of poverty, but if she's up and you're poor, leave that girl alone. Yeah. Cause if you. You can't afford to do for her the things that she could do for herself. Just leave her alone.

[Rory]

Cause she in that group chat she done took. Cause she done snapped a picture while that was head down in that sushi. Sent that to the group chat. Like, that's just broke ass.

[Damaris]

It is foul, but it's reality.

[Mal]

All right? No, but that's double foul. Because if she says, let's go on a date, and he says, I don't have money, so let's not do that, and then she offers to pay to then take a photo and clown him. And like, that is. That's cool.

[Damaris]

I don't think she.

[Rory]

I don't think if he off.

[Mal]

If he was what?

[Rory]

The marriage. Don't do that. No, because you know that nigga's in the group chat.

[Damaris]

You setting yourself up. No, you setting yourself up to get clowned. Because the first thing my group chat is going to say, well, why the Would you offer to pay for that anyway?

[Mal]

Like, yeah, with your dumbass. You forgot that he said he didn't have any money.

[Damaris]

Yeah, like, that he was honest and.

[Mal]

Told you he was broke. Like, now you're a clown for bringing someone out that was honest with you and then clowning them for their Honesty.

[Damaris]

Yeah, that's lame. That's bull.

[Rory]

That's.

[Mal]

That's lame to me.

[Julian]

You're bullying.

[Damaris]

Yeah, that's bullying. That's corny.

[Mal]

As it's not even bushes.

[Rory]

It happens. What are you talking about? She happens every 37 seconds in America.

[Mal]

Is that accurate?

[Damaris]

I feel like those are accurate numbers. More accurate than Rory's YouTube prediction, for sure.

[Rory]

We looked at the video. Wasn't even close to shaking YouTube.

[Mal]

There's more red onions on her sandwich.

[Rory]

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[Julian]

No, I mean, I'm just. I'm sorry. I don't know. You're doing the outro, but, like. So now what? Now my question is for this guy for Baltimore. Well, I'm curious because. Say he really likes this girl, but he can't afford to do dates and stuff with her. What can he do to still hang out with her? Like, is this just, like, it's over?

[Mal]

Don't talk to that girl at all. She's offered to take you out. And then when you got there, say, why aren't you paying?

[Julian]

But she did pay.

[Mal]

Yeah, but that's not a red flag to y'all.

[Damaris]

That's a red flag.

[Rory]

23.

[Julian]

23, right, 23.

[Rory]

Listen, man, focus. Focus on getting your. Yourself together first.

[Julian]

He's still gonna want to get ass, so how can you.

[Damaris]

That's fine.

[Rory]

Yeah, but you gotta. You gotta get. You gotta get your own ass up out of your situation before you go focus on getting some other ass. I'm just trying to help.

[Mal]

But he's. He was honest from Rip.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

No, I'm not going with you. Cause I'm broke.

[Rory]

Right? So just.

[Julian]

I like the honesty.

[Rory]

That time you on that date, you could be working overtime.

[Mal]

Wasn't he in some other, like, predicament with, like, a girl that had a boyfriend or he. You just need to sit down for a while.

[Damaris]

Yeah, sit your little ass down.

[Rory]

It's work. What you got to do to get up out of here.

[Mal]

But if you broke and someone offers you some sushi.

[Rory]

Nah, man.

[Mal]

Yeah, I'll go.

[Rory]

It's a long leash on that sushi. Dinner girl took you out to dinner. You broke and she paid for it. She ain't she can't wait.

[Damaris]

I was just. I was literally just about to throw that shit. Especially a young girl that.

[Rory]

Especially when you come up when you couldn't afford sushi.

[Mal]

Nah, man, do it. Do it for the gender. Save her as food girl.

[Julian]

Get a quick meal ticket.

[Rory]

That don't work.

[Damaris]

He like her. You can't do that cause you like her.

[Rory]

That only work. We can only get that off as men when we got money too. Like, we can only get that off. Like, yeah, sure. We take me out to eating when we got money, though. Like, you can't be a broke and be like, yo, she would take me out the E. It's like, you just a bum ass nigga.

[Mal]

That ain't fly if I'm broke.

[Rory]

It's fly when you got money in the grill sandwich.

[Mal]

I'm taking that turkey.

[Julian]

I'm taking that sushi.

[Damaris]

Yeah, but it's not. It's never. But you're never gonna take that girl serious because you don't want.

[Mal]

No, she'll never take me serious.

[Damaris]

No, but even if she did, you would never take her serious. No man wants the girl that saw him when he was broke. Y'all, don't. You do not want the girl that really saw you when you were broke like that.

[Rory]

I love all my. That was around when I was a boy.

[Julian]

That's the best one.

[Rory]

Love that shit. Yeah, it was. That was the best times. Those are the. The best relationships. When you're on the couch and a girl's holding you down, it's like, you're not shorty with me.

[Damaris]

Okay.

[Rory]

Yeah, she with me.

[Mal]

Okay.

[Damaris]

Maybe I'm wrong.

[Rory]

Yeah. No.

[Julian]

Oh. He did add at the end of the call, the second call for Damaris. He said. He said he knows you're interested in men in the DMV area and ultimately want to settle in that area. He said Faltamore is not too far away. And then he said he does have a bunch of young guys that would like to holler. He. He is self aware. He did not say, hey, I'm trying to holler. He said, I have friends that I think would make sense for you.

[Damaris]

He's 23.

[Julian]

Yes. What if his friends are old?

[Mal]

Maybe he's like, yeah, the youngest.

[Damaris]

How much older?

[Julian]

I don't know.

[Rory]

They like 3 or 4 years old. 27, 28.

[Julian]

How young would you date?

[Mal]

Take him to sushi.

[Damaris]

I dated. I went on a date with a 27 year old.

[Rory]

See, there you go.

[Julian]

Didn't that suck?

[Damaris]

I was 29 at the time.

[Mal]

No.

[Damaris]

It was a pretty good date, actually. I was 29 at the time. Yeah, but I'm saying I went. I was 29 at the time when I went on a date with a 27 year old.

[Rory]

Okay, so if you 30 now, you can go on a date with a 27 year old. We not doing that. See? Come on.

[Mal]

I don't think that age gap is too crazy.

[Damaris]

No, it's not crazy. I didn't say that. I don't think it's crazy at all. That's normal.

[Rory]

Yeah. So you would go.

[Mal]

You're not Dre.

[Julian]

So you're gonna talk to his friend.

[Damaris]

I just like older men. It's just. I've always been like that. I just like older men. I have nothing.

[Mal]

What's weird with that strategy is the older you get, then the older the men.

[Damaris]

I know. That's the thing.

[Mal]

Like, does that. That. So does that carry over? Like, if you're a young girl that likes older men, that likes men that are like, 35, 40, right? Who, baby, does it stay at 35, 40, or does it carry on with your age?

[Damaris]

So that's the thing with me.

[Mal]

I've never understood that with women that, like, older.

[Damaris]

What I'm realizing is that I didn't like older men. I just like men in their 30s. That's what it was. That makes sense, because now that I'm getting older. Now that I'm getting older, straight men in their 30s. I was having a conversation with the. The. That was in his 30s when I was in my twent. Funny.

[Rory]

Cross it off.

[Mal]

That was really funny.

[Damaris]

You ate.

[Rory]

You ate that.

[Julian]

That was a good callback.

[Damaris]

It was funny.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Julian]

I got a black belt in what?

[Mal]

Aioli from the Gap.

[Julian]

Damn.

[Mal]

You were saying. Because I am curious.

[Damaris]

Oh, no, I was just saying that, like, I realized, like, as I'm getting older, like, you know, just going off the men I dated when I was in my earlier 20s, them is 8 inching closer and closer to 40. And I'm like, y'all talking about getting in serious relationships. I had a conversation with one of them, and I was like, baby, like, you need to hurry up and, like, settle down a little bit. Like, your eyes turning yellow. You gonna need ed pills.

[Rory]

Whose eyes is turning yellow?

[Julian]

Like Michael Jordan.

[Rory]

Like, you. That's the Hennessy.

[Damaris]

Like, true. Y'all gonna have to. You gotta slow down a little bit.

[Rory]

Yellow eyes.

[Damaris]

Who got yellow eyes and niggas is like, not when I'm ready to settle down. Like, it's gonna be, you know, like, when I Am ready to get in a relationship. It's gonna be me and you. No, it's not gonna be me and you. You want to wait until you old as to like settle down and you think it's gonna be with me? No, I'm go. That's when I'm gonna get a 27 year old. Their dick's gonna work for about 20 years longer than this 40 year old.

[Rory]

You off that good cigar Henny right there. Man.

[Julian]

That's tough.

[Rory]

That's that good cigar.

[Julian]

That's the greatest.

[Mal]

Of course it's hereditary. Like.

[Rory]

Like he could go get 30, right?

[Damaris]

Y ain't learn from. Y'all ain't learn from Chadwick.

[Rory]

Y'all talking about people go get 30. That face right there. He could go give you 30 right now.

[Mal]

I see what you're saying, Damaris. But he's looked this way for about 40 years. So if he has something he's.

[Rory]

He's beat it.

[Damaris]

All right, That's a fact.

[Rory]

That's a fact. That's Michael.

[Damaris]

It's. They just need to do a liver. Liver and kidney cleanse. Drink your dandelion tea like y'all gotta.

[Julian]

I think Michael Jordan's gonna go out there and drink some dandelion.

[Rory]

Mike going out to the champion.

[Julian]

He's betting 10 grand a hole.

[Rory]

In.

[Mal]

A medium rare steak.

[Rory]

Yeah, that's cavacier cigars. And 20 holes of golf with no sleep.

[Mal]

20 holes of golf is hilarious. He's the extra two.

[Rory]

He's just out there. Mike just. Mike, like. All right, we're going back the other way. Like what?

[Mal]

20 holes?

[Rory]

Mike, I'm down 200 grand out here. Mike like it. We going back like.

[Mal]

Mike, this is supposed to be leisure.

[Rory]

Stop having a friend like Michael Jordan. Got to be stressful, bro. Yeah. Because the he can do and he's into and he wants you to just hang with him all week. You can't keep up with that type of man.

[Mal]

Did you see the SNL sketch they did about the quarters on the wall with the security guard after the Jordan documentary?

[Julian]

Yes. Dance. It's a really.

[Mal]

Sometimes SNL like does get it right that I. That is hilarious. And I mean we can't obviously show it.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

But we can close and just watch it amongst our ourselves after this. But we'll be in Atlanta very, very soon.

[Rory]

November 22nd.

[Mal]

Basically a month. I'm excited.

[Rory]

Got some friends down there, friend of ours, friend of the show. One of my favorite writers and artists. He. He texted me, said he will be in the building. He's gonna pull up on.

[Mal]

Yeah, he texted me that today as well.

[Rory]

Okay, cool.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

So have some friends down in Atlanta. Have a good time. Love Atlanta.

[Damaris]

Y'all can bring hookah on stage.

[Rory]

Me, I don't smoke hookah.

[Mal]

I. I think every stage comes with hookah in Atlanta.

[Damaris]

I think it's probably in your package, right? Green.

[Rory]

Yeah, they put it in your. When you get your luggage off the carousel. It's hookah.

[Mal]

We have non smoking areas. They have smoking only areas.

[Rory]

Yeah. And if you don't smoke, you can't perform here. Areas. Get your tickets now. All right, we out of here, man. Have a safe weekend. Be safe, be blessed. We'll talk to y'all soon. I'm that. He's just Ginger. You. Adios.

[Mal]

No warrior now.