Episode 317 | You Chose A Side

Summary

Podcast Summary: Episode 317 | You Chose A Side

Overview

In Episode 317 of New Rory & MAL, titled "You Chose A Side," hosts Rory, Mal, Damaris, and Julian delve into a myriad of topics ranging from political commentary and social issues to personal anecdotes and the latest happenings in the music industry. The discussion is vibrant, filled with humor, insightful takes, and candid conversations that reflect the hosts' diverse perspectives.

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1. Unity and Political Engagement

Mal on American Division and Voter Registration

The episode opens with Mal expressing concern over the growing divisions in America. He emphasizes the importance of unity among immigrants and diverse communities, urging listeners to "register and vote for your life" to break down societal barriers (00:04).

Mal (00:07): "We all immigrants, different characters, but together, you know, we could break down the barriers. So register and vote for your life."

Damaris on Women's Voting Rights

Damaris adds to the conversation by highlighting women's voting rights, suggesting that women should prioritize their own votes.

Damaris (00:28): "If you a woman, then vote for you right."

2. Cosmetic Procedures and Social Trends

Discussion on Veneers

The hosts engage in a humorous debate about dental veneers, joking about the temporary "placeholders" dentists provide before installing permanent ones. They poke fun at the aesthetics and practicality of maintaining dental veneers.

Rory (00:58): "Don't they give you like another set of veneers before they get your real veneers?"

Mal on Veneer Durability

Mal questions the necessity and effectiveness of veneers, sparking laughter among the group.

Mal (01:03): "Well, no, we can't chew."

3. Sports and Community Events

Dodgers World Series Parade Incident

The conversation shifts to the recent Dodgers World Series parade, where a fan unfortunately lost his hand due to fireworks. The hosts express mixed feelings about the event, balancing their appreciation for fireworks with concerns over safety.

Mal (02:14): "He lit it from his hand."

Reflections on Community Unity

They reflect on how such events once fostered unity but now often lead to accidents and divisions.

Damaris (02:32): "It's classic Democratically ran."

4. Drug Culture and Youth Trends

Galaxy Gas and Youth Addiction

The discussion takes a serious turn as the hosts talk about the prevalence of Galaxy Gas among youth, comparing it to older forms of inhalants like whippets and huffing glue. They express concern over the commercialization and accessibility of such substances.

Damaris (06:08): "The kids on drugs, man. The kids on drugs."

Mal on Businessman Mindset Amid Drug Trends

Mal emphasizes his preference for a business-oriented mindset over succumbing to drug-related trends, advocating for staying clear of such vices.

Mal (06:22): "I always had a businessman mindset."

5. Young Thug’s Probation and Music Impact

Details of Young Thug’s Probation Conditions

The hosts provide an update on Young Thug’s legal situation, detailing his probation terms which include community service, avoidance of metro Atlanta, and engagement in anti-gang presentations.

Damaris (27:08): "He must perform 100 hours of community service each of his probation years."

Impact on Young Thug’s Artistic Output

They speculate on how Young Thug's probation might influence his music, considering his prolific work ethic and potential restrictions on certain lyrical content.

Mal (24:30): "He's gonna need all the prayers. Cause 15 years probation is not easy for anybody."

6. Music Industry Insights

Tyler, the Creator’s Album Success

The hosts analyze Tyler, the Creator's recent album sales, positioning it against other major artists like Taylor Swift and Billie Eilish. They commend Tyler's work ethic and his ability to resonate with both casual and dedicated music fans.

Damaris (63:27): "I've been listening to it all weekend and the more I listen to it, the more I like it."

Comparisons with Other Artists

Rory and Mal compare the marketing strategies and fan bases of various artists, highlighting how Tyler's Columbia Records backing contributes to his impressive sales figures.

Rory (62:03): "I think he's gonna have way more momentum."

7. Controversial Parenting Choices

DJ Envy’s Daughter's Cosplay

A significant portion of the episode addresses DJ Envy's decision to have his daughter cosplay as "little Kim" from the "Crush on You" music video. The hosts debate the appropriateness of this choice, considering the sexualized nature of the original video and the involvement of a minor.

Damaris (72:33): "She had her daughter cosplaying as little Kim... it's too grown for a little girl."

Hosts' Perspectives on Parenting and Public Scrutiny

The conversation explores the fine line between creative expression and parental responsibility, with some hosts questioning the decision while others acknowledge the challenges of parenting in the public eye.

Rory (73:27): "I think this was an awful decision, though."

8. Sports Figures and Cultural Impact

Vince Carter’s NBA Legacy

The hosts pay tribute to Vince Carter, discussing his impact on the NBA and his cultural significance in Toronto. They reflect on his relationships with other sports figures and his enduring legacy.

Mal (36:17): "He had a club in Toronto... one of the most underrated NBA players ever."

DeMar DeRozan and Drake Dynamics

The episode delves into the relationship between DeMar DeRozan and Drake, analyzing public interactions and their implications within the Toronto Raptors community.

Rory (39:21): "They were friends... Drake went to help him through that moment."

9. Personal Anecdotes and Humor

Hosts Share Personal Stories

Throughout the episode, Rory, Mal, Damaris, and Julian share personal stories and humorous incidents, ranging from college antics and Halloween mishaps to experiences at music festivals. These anecdotes add a relatable and entertaining layer to the discussion.

Julian (77:18): "I dressed up as Left Eye from TLC one time in middle school..."

Humorous Takes on Relationships and Social Situations

The hosts engage in playful banter about relationships, cheating, and social interactions, often exaggerating scenarios for comedic effect.

Mal (91:55): "You're gonna get some side, the pimping."

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Notable Quotes

• Mal on Unity and Voting (00:04):

  "We used to be united in America. Now we just divided in America."

• Rory on Planting Feet at Ball Pit (09:23):

  "I feel like this sounds like an ad, but I can't say how much fun I had on Sunday."

• Mal on Young Thug’s Creative Adaptation (24:30):

  "He knows he could, you know, and... they own him."

• Damaris on Community Service (27:08):

  "He must perform 100 hours of community service each of his probation years."

• Rory on Quincy Jones’ Legacy (112:10):

  "Quincy Jones is the goats."

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Conclusion

Episode 317 of New Rory & MAL offers a blend of serious discussions and lighthearted banter, capturing the essence of contemporary social issues, personal experiences, and the ever-evolving music landscape. The hosts maintain an engaging dialogue, encouraging listeners to reflect on unity, responsible parenting, and the impact of legal challenges on artistic expression, all while keeping the atmosphere lively and entertaining.

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Note: This summary is intended to provide an overview of the podcast episode based on the provided transcript. It aims to capture the key discussions and insights without delving into explicit or sensitive content.

Transcript

[Rory]

New warrior now.

[Mal]

Mama, what's wrong with America? Why can't we get along in America? Something's going on in America. People entertained by the Predator. We used to be united in America. Now we just divided in America. We all immigrants, different characters, but together, you know, we could break down the barriers. So register and vote for your life. Do it for your daughters and your sons and your wife.

[Damaris]

If you a woman, then vote for you right.

[Mal]

Let them take away your right. We could be better than we ever been. We about to have a woman president. Haters going to say that we can. But the word American says that I can. And we say yes, she can.

[Julian]

And we say like them with new veneers.

[Damaris]

Freddy Freeman.

[Rory]

Got the placeholders.

[Mal]

Placeholders.

[Rory]

Don't they give you like another set of veneers before they get your real veneers?

[Julian]

Yeah, because don't they shave your teeth down like.

[Rory]

Like that? Yeah, they give you a little mouth guard for like a week. That's what you got now.

[Damaris]

That's sick.

[Mal]

I don't. I don't have a mouth guard.

[Damaris]

How do you eat food with that?

[Rory]

I'm gonna get the XL veneers if I can't even close my mouth.

[Mal]

You want a juice cleanse? You just juice for like two weeks.

[Rory]

And that gives you veneers?

[Mal]

Well, no, we can't chew.

[Rory]

Oh, okay.

[Mal]

Until you get your veneers.

[Rory]

Got you break your jaw or something.

[Damaris]

The wildest makeover.

[Julian]

Oh, no.

[Damaris]

You got the horse.

[Rory]

Oh, yeah, those are rough.

[Mal]

Sorry.

[Rory]

I feel like you would have enough money to go get the like the medium veneers at that point. That looks like they did those in a Colombian basement.

[Damaris]

These are so bad. And he's too rich to look like that.

[Rory]

That's wild.

[Mal]

He kicked ass. Freeman. Damn.

[Damaris]

They got whiter when he moved to LA too.

[Rory]

I mean, got to keep up with with West Hollywood now.

[Mal]

Now that he's won the World Series, he'll get whiter than that.

[Rory]

Y right. I didn't see any footage gonna kick in and maybe it's just cuz I'm a hater and I'm still grieving, but I didn't see any footage of like the parade over the weekend for the Dodgers World Series.

[Damaris]

I know Maul saw it. Did you see the fan that got his hand blown off?

[Mal]

Maul? Oh, my God.

[Damaris]

Yep. I knew he would.

[Mal]

That was crazy.

[Rory]

Wait, hold on.

[Mal]

His hand looked like Fusili.

[Rory]

I don't want to laugh at someone getting their hand blown off. What was he doing?

[Mal]

Lighting firework? Short ass Fuse on it.

[Damaris]

He lit it from his hand.

[Rory]

Where'd he go? Oh, he's there. I thought he, like, disappeared.

[Mal]

I thought he evaporated trying to find his fingers.

[Damaris]

Roy, look at this. No, it's bad.

[Mal]

He's shaking his hands. It's like, fam, you don't have hands anymore.

[Rory]

So, yeah, as much as I like fireworks.

[Damaris]

Look at that.

[Rory]

I'm using, like, the grill lighter, and it's gonna have a long, bro.

[Damaris]

Look at that.

[Rory]

I don't need to see that. It's cool. And as much as the Yankee in me wants to be like, that's what you get.

[Mal]

I like cheese from Hydra.

[Rory]

It looks like he's really doing the blood. Everyone be safe with fireworks is not a joke.

[Mal]

Why would you like an M80 holding it, though? Like, the mat you put on the floor and light it and run.

[Damaris]

The funny thing about it is there was like, four different angles.

[Rory]

Yeah, because he was trying to get that real Tick Tock video to go viral.

[Mal]

He got viral. He went viral. He definitely went viral. Welcome to viral University.

[Rory]

But you have to figure that's his friends that are filming it. So your friends put that footage up of you?

[Mal]

Yeah, they was. They was recording it live.

[Rory]

Oh, this was live. Okay, Never. But who is he? Like, were people tuned in, bro? Did someone clip it?

[Damaris]

Like, I don't think you have to.

[Rory]

A random person goes live. How many people are really watching?

[Damaris]

Blow your hand off, you get a few views.

[Mal]

Yeah, well, it took off.

[Rory]

Who went to, like, Reddit. Discord was like, yo, tune in. Like, he just blew his hand.

[Mal]

That clip really took off after. This is.

[Rory]

I feel like one of his friends posted this.

[Damaris]

This is like one of the three clips I saw floating around from the parade. It was that and then people lighting on fire and rioting. You know, classic parade stuff.

[Rory]

Classic Democratically ran.

[Mal]

See, that's why the Yankees supposed to win. We don't do that in New York. We don't set on fire here when.

[Rory]

Our teams win, not when the Yankees win. But we. We set. Like, we set a whole burrow on fire so we can put a highway there.

[Mal]

Well, that's different that. I don't think the Yankees won that year.

[Rory]

They were putting funds elsewhere.

[Mal]

Yeah, politics. Yeah, yeah.

[Rory]

Trying to get the real estate for the stadium.

[Mal]

Exactly.

[Rory]

Well, how was everyone's weekend? I mean, I'm not going to say shout out to Dodgers fans, y'all.

[Mal]

Weekend was great. Had some friends in town from London. Oh, nice.

[Rory]

Oh, okay. Like new friends and ones you met at, like.

[Mal]

No, our Friends. Whitney. Whitney. Aisha. Whitney's birthday was a day.

[Rory]

Okay.

[Mal]

Met up with them, had a drink, and had dinner with them.

[Rory]

Love that.

[Mal]

And that was it for me. I didn't do nothing else.

[Rory]

Where'd you guys go? Gotta do a show. Em to town.

[Mal]

They went to. They booked that. Tatiana's.

[Rory]

Okay.

[Mal]

Hey. So went there and ate, and I took them to overstory and had a drink.

[Rory]

Nice.

[Mal]

That was it. Had a little toast. Cheers. That's.

[Rory]

That's a good little birthday spot.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

I'm shocked. You weren't, like, the tour guide.

[Mal]

I feel like you would have a show on, man.

[Rory]

Tour guide take another hood.

[Mal]

Nah, tour guide show him 1199. 1199. Yo, taking. Taking people from London, like, Yo, this is 11.99 right here. I don't. Why would anybody show you that?

[Rory]

I feel like I hate that tour guide. And shout out to gigs, I love you. But when we went to London, he's like, you. You want to see what's the neighborhood?

[Mal]

He's from Peckham.

[Rory]

I was like, not really.

[Mal]

Yeah, why not? Let's go see Peckham.

[Rory]

I don't like the tour guide that, like, wants to take you to the hood.

[Mal]

Why not?

[Rory]

I'm just not that. I'm not there in my life anymore.

[Mal]

I see the hood from. In different countries, in different cities, man, like you. You start to realize every hood is really generally the same.

[Rory]

For sure. But let me see, like, some of the attractions first. Like, when I'm in Houston. Let me see the Galleria Mall.

[Mal]

Before we went to Wonderland. We went to Wonderland, right?

[Rory]

We did.

[Mal]

Okay, so then, now we go to Peka. It's balanced. Rory. We went to the. We went, had the festivities. We had, you know, food and got on the rides and things like that. And now we go to Pekham and see the mandate.

[Rory]

It's just. It's too risky these days.

[Mal]

I mean, we.

[Rory]

These young kids, they're high. I don't even know what's going on.

[Damaris]

Like, they are Galaxy gas. We haven't even brought up that yet on this show.

[Mal]

Galaxy guys.

[Rory]

Yeah, they're. They're all. When they get veneers, they get addicted to laughing gas. It's. I don't even know what to do anymore.

[Mal]

I'm glad I was never, like, the druggie kid. I feel like all the kids that.

[Rory]

Just got all the other kids hooked on them.

[Mal]

I mean.

[Damaris]

Yeah, you just destroyed family.

[Mal]

I'm a businessman. I'm more of a businessman. I always had a businessman mindset. Yeah, the druggies the kids on drugs, man. The kids on drugs. And I think that they're now getting bored with the drugs they have, so they're creating new drugs.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Even though whippets and things like that. They used to call it huffing when it was glue.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

That's been around.

[Rory]

Or when they would put.

[Mal]

Like at one point they were sucking shit. Yeah. At one point they was just running up to the AC units outside of buildings and just sniffing the gas outside of the AC units. I'm like, all right. I don't know.

[Rory]

At that point, just put me on crack.

[Mal]

Yeah. I mean, at that point, just make.

[Rory]

Me an honorable crackhead at that point.

[Mal]

Exactly.

[Damaris]

The thing with Galaxy Gas, though, like, while huffing and whippets have always been a thing, it was at least like not commercialized as that, you know, it was like, okay, these are for whipped cream cartridges or like balloons, whatever, etc.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Galaxy Gas is just advertised as, you know, soft. This shit.

[Mal]

Yeah, yeah.

[Damaris]

Like, it's not even like a. It's supposed to labels. Galaxy Gas.

[Mal]

You have a huff.

[Rory]

That look legal?

[Damaris]

Do I? No, I never got into that.

[Mal]

Because up. Up in your town, this. That's big.

[Damaris]

Yeah. Those type of areas, upstate New York, they. With a lot of pills. Like, pills, heroin. I mean, it's like, you know, more. It's a city, but it's still like the drugs are more rural drug culture.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Yeah. Galaxy Gas is probably big up there.

[Rory]

That's mainstream now. Look at the label.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Rory]

That looks like you could just buy it right. Right at the window at the gas station.

[Damaris]

It's like, I'd get that with like a coffee.

[Rory]

And this is why I don't want to like, see everyone's hood anymore, because this is what the kids are on for 3.99. Blow my head off just to get some more. Whip it.

[Mal]

That's why I'll be in the house, man. That's why I'll be in the house.

[Rory]

I had a pretty low, low key weekend. This is not an ad, but I went to Space Club in Brooklyn, which is like a kids like, playground almost. The blow up stuff, the ball pits. I had more fun than the kids, all right. Went for my man Mikey's son's birthday party and I. I have not had this much fun. I was like, kicking Amara over so I could have more fun moving tomorrow. Nice. You know?

[Mal]

Yeah, they need that.

[Rory]

That's tough love.

[Damaris]

This is disgusting. You ready for this mall?

[Rory]

Look how great this place looks.

[Damaris]

This is Rory.

[Rory]

Oh, still got it.

[Mal]

You like? You Like Saquan against the Eagles right there.

[Rory]

I did push Amara over mind. I didn't watch the Eagles game. I think it was going on at the same time that me and Saquan were on the same algorithm.

[Damaris]

You're in the same color too.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

We knew what time it was. And look at the defenders I have coming at me.

[Mal]

Yeah, they can't tackle you. That's a touchdown.

[Damaris]

This is.

[Rory]

That's too stiff.

[Damaris]

Look at the wind up.

[Mal]

Yeet.

[Rory]

That's an athlete right there. Look at the balance.

[Julian]

I just feel like what made you.

[Damaris]

The spread is crazy.

[Mal]

Spreading your cheeks like that at a kid.

[Rory]

No, my cheeks were open at that point.

[Damaris]

If you're listening, Aurora is in like this padded room. It looks like a psych ward room, but there's a massive.

[Rory]

Oh, put me in a psych ward if that's a psych ward. Yeah, it's so much.

[Mal]

Me too. I'll chill. Right there.

[Damaris]

Massive blow up ball reminiscent of an exercise ball. And he runs up to it like a gymnast and. And plants his feet and kicks his legs super wide around the ball and leapfrogs it.

[Rory]

I mean, I had to get over it.

[Mal]

Tell them what type of light bulbs they have in that place, Julian.

[Damaris]

That was a pretty good exposure. Gave a whole audio book, fluorescent tubes, you know.

[Rory]

But I had so much fun. This place had ball pits like for six blocks. They had. They still keyboards, drum pads. You could make bracelets. There was not one thing this place did not have. It's great for kids and adults. I feel like this sounds like an ad, but I can't say how much fun I had on Sunday.

[Mal]

Yeah, you look like you have more fun than your daughter.

[Rory]

And I mean, all the kids were coughing in my face. I didn't care. I was just in that sea of disease, just swimming through the ball pits.

[Mal]

Gotta have that.

[Rory]

Slides were fun. Yeah, it was. It was a really good time.

[Mal]

Did y'all get out and vote this weekend?

[Rory]

No, I'm gonna vote if you're listening to this today.

[Mal]

Today. Okay.

[Julian]

Today.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Yeah, I'm gonna do today.

[Rory]

Did you do over the weekend?

[Mal]

I'm not voting.

[Rory]

Okay.

[Mal]

I told you.

[Rory]

Exercise. You're right.

[Julian]

Did you guys go out for Halloween? How was your Halloween? How you were, you know.

[Rory]

Yeah, we did. We did the building thing. Amara, you know, there's only so much she can do at this age with Halloween. But it was fun. We took photos. She helped me pass out candy to everyone. Really, it was. It was cool. I feel like y'all dragged Halloween out. It was November 2nd, and I was on Instagram seeing y'all at Halloween parties.

[Julian]

Well, that's because it was the weekend. Halloween was on a Thursday. People had to work on Friday, but.

[Rory]

They had Halloween the weekend before. Yeah, like y'all did two weeks of Halloween.

[Mal]

And the ghetto boys told us when Halloween.

[Rory]

These chicks were on their. Their fifth. Different thong.

[Mal]

Like, no.

[Damaris]

How many copies?

[Mal]

Same dog, same thong. Wash it.

[Rory]

Just different bunny.

[Mal]

Wash it in the sink, hang it out night before.

[Damaris]

They having more bunny ears and thongs. It's crazy.

[Julian]

Yo, they were at the lotto concert in the. In the costumes and cheetah thongs for lotto Chef Kiss.

[Mal]

Yeah, fuck all that, Baby D. You posted number back to zero. You tweeted that.

[Julian]

Oh. Oh, yeah.

[Rory]

Oh, I did see that.

[Mal]

What was that about? What were you referring to?

[Rory]

She was listening to Brian McKnight one.

[Julian]

Get like a dream come true.

[Mal]

Yeah, I want to know what that back to zero was.

[Julian]

No, I'm done drinking. Halloween was my last day drinking. Ah, y'all thought I got dick.

[Damaris]

No, no, that was. The clock reset for sure.

[Julian]

That was not the. It was.

[Rory]

When you tweeted that, did you think we would all interpret that as you, I've just got dicked down, and now we're back.

[Julian]

You know what's so crazy is that I wasn't thinking. I just tweeted it.

[Rory]

I was thinking, oh, sorry.

[Julian]

No, I'm just done. I'm done with drinking for the next 30 days.

[Mal]

30?

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

You're doing it this month.

[Mal]

Can you do. There's no way you're not drinking for Thanksgiving. There's no way you're not. That's not. Just stop. Just. That's Cap.

[Rory]

Who could get through that?

[Julian]

Okay, well, Thanksgiving. Thanksgiving will be the only day. Thanksgiving will be the only thing.

[Damaris]

See, I'm realistic.

[Rory]

But then you got to prep the food the day before, so you got to drink.

[Mal]

Why? The marriage. Come in here and just think. She could just tell us anything, though, like, why? Why?

[Rory]

With confidence.

[Mal]

Yeah, we're talking to, like, we know you. You gonna have a drink? For sure.

[Rory]

You went to the lotto show. You started feeling some things and maybe sent out a text message. It's okay. We don't judge you for it. We've all been there.

[Julian]

I don't know what. Anyway, lotto show was really, really good. Yeah, I was half naked. Ma was, like, watching me and Alex to get ready.

[Rory]

I know.

[Julian]

Mom was like, what the fuck does this girl have on?

[Mal]

No, I was just laughing to myself. Like, this Is what women do when they're about to go, fellas, we just throw a T shirt on to some jeans and walk out the door.

[Rory]

What were they doing?

[Mal]

You know, hair, makeup.

[Rory]

Okay. Yeah. Lotto show at Barclays.

[Mal]

Yeah. Costume. You know how they go.

[Rory]

What was your costume? Because you didn't wear one on the show.

[Julian]

I was a bunny. I was a latex bunny.

[Mal]

Latex.

[Julian]

I was a Playboy bunny.

[Mal]

Because latex is different than lambskin.

[Julian]

I've heard.

[Mal]

Yeah. In case you didn't know.

[Rory]

Have you ever used a lambskin condom?

[Mal]

I'm from a different era. No, No.

[Rory]

I thought your era was the ones that, you know. I thought in the 70s, that's what they did.

[Damaris]

What were your condoms at? Burlap Sack.

[Julian]

No, Saran.

[Rory]

No, it was no.

[Damaris]

Common.

[Mal]

Yeah, exactly. See, he knows.

[Julian]

Have you ever done the Saran Wrap thing when you were younger?

[Damaris]

Saran Wrap?

[Mal]

You think I've put Saran Wrap on my.

[Rory]

For a Halloween costume?

[Julian]

And then he put money in.

[Mal]

What costume is that? Leftover burritos.

[Rory]

Yeah, leftovers.

[Julian]

It was. Was it Woo or was it Booty Call where they did that Booty Call?

[Mal]

Both classic movies, by the way. Woo is a classic.

[Rory]

I've never been that horny that a chick could get me. Even Vivica Fox, the way she looked in that movie to get me in that full Saran rap. That was wild.

[Mal]

I thought you about to say a girl that looked like Viva would. Wouldn't get you to go to the store to get condoms.

[Rory]

Oh, a girl that hasn't looked like Vivica has gotten me the store to get cop. What are you talking about now?

[Mal]

You lying? You definitely went to the store before.

[Rory]

You would rap head to toe and Saran Wrap for Villa.

[Mal]

Absolutely not.

[Damaris]

How much of a fight would you. Would you put up or had you put up in the past? When a girl says you got to go to the store and get condoms.

[Mal]

It depends how much defense she's playing.

[Damaris]

I've done.

[Mal]

Like, if I see she's really. She's really not trying to have sex without a condom, then I'll go get one. But if I see it's a little wiggle room, little negotiation room. It's like she, like. No, but then it's like she's still letting me play with it.

[Julian]

Oh, my God.

[Mal]

It's like.

[Rory]

I know you're saying in a good way. It's just the. The adjectives and nouns.

[Mal]

What? She's letting me play with it.

[Julian]

Not that one.

[Rory]

That one was fine.

[Mal]

What was the back to the concert defense.

[Julian]

Just go back, back, back to the concert.

[Damaris]

No shadow defense.

[Mal]

We know what defense is really. I get a condom and it's like, yeah, but you don't.

[Rory]

But you're the condom guy. I feel like you'd be the one putting up the fight. Like, no, you can't have.

[Mal]

No, I'm the condom guy. When it's like, if I know the girl, like, we really with each other, then it's like we get to a point where, like, we ain't using condoms no more. Like, come on.

[Rory]

I mean, I've just gotten to the point that we won't have sex. I'm not gonna go to the store to get a condom.

[Mal]

Do you won't go to the store.

[Rory]

And get a gun if I don't want to use a condom?

[Mal]

Yeah, no, I'm going to the store.

[Damaris]

That I've gone to the store in the past.

[Mal]

But you got to do it quick because you give it too much time to think and reconsider. And you get back upstairs and she, like, fully dressed.

[Rory]

She gets to talk to the group chat.

[Mal]

Whoa, whoa. Yeah.

[Rory]

Why you got jeans on outside clothes on the bed. I thought we already. We went through this routine.

[Mal]

Jeans. When I left, you just had a robe on.

[Damaris]

You got to bring her on the mission.

[Mal]

That's crazy.

[Julian]

Okay? I'm not mad at him. I'm not bringing.

[Mal]

Bringing the wet to the store.

[Damaris]

My dick hard jammed in the.

[Mal]

You can't bring the wet to the store. Store.

[Rory]

Julian probably brings her to get the plan B too.

[Damaris]

No, see, we're not.

[Julian]

That's wild.

[Rory]

No, you gotta wait in the car. Somebody has to wait.

[Mal]

And he make her press the button. You know, you gotta call customer service.

[Damaris]

I'm in a different aisle.

[Julian]

Julian look like he could get that.

[Rory]

Was now that they put the before the plan B was like, behind the counter and you just had to like, request like, hey, I definitely just nutted in somebody. I'm not sure. Can I have the pill behind you?

[Julian]

No, but see, now you can just order it through door dash, or you.

[Mal]

Can just go to the corner straight to her.

[Damaris]

I'm like two blocks from that. You know that one CVS near me. So I've done the condom mission before, and I brought. Brought the girl. Like, we're not gonna of the vibe. I'll tell jokes and we'll talk on the walk over.

[Julian]

Girl, you think your jokes are keeping the moist.

[Mal]

Yo, taking the girl with you to buy condoms is.

[Damaris]

Well, then she's like a new.

[Rory]

Like a girl you haven't really been with. And now the awkward waiting in line.

[Damaris]

It's not awkward. It's self checkout.

[Mal]

Because then are you asking, like, which one do you prefer? It's like shoes.

[Rory]

You want the Icy Hot one? What's that one called?

[Mal]

Icy Hot?

[Damaris]

No, because I bring her. And then I'll say you go. Because now you're in a CVS and now you can be like, all right, let's get some snacks and shit.

[Mal]

Oh, you act like y'all on supermarket suite. She go one hour, you go to the other, and then y'all meet back.

[Julian]

At check out makeup remover, wipes, whatever she got.

[Rory]

But then. But then it's weird because you have to make a financial decision. Are you going to buy the three pack that's cheaper or you going to invest in, like, maybe a bigger pack? Then you look like a psycho.

[Mal]

We go. We go 20 say you got. Because we're not going. We not. We not making this trip again for a while. We're not doing this with a chick you just met.

[Rory]

This the first time. You're going to fudge. You're buying the 20 pack.

[Julian]

You know, you're not going to look 20 on her.

[Rory]

No fudgeing way.

[Damaris]

Well, what are you going to do? Buy three for like $15 or get. Or get 20 for 20.

[Rory]

Financially, it's. It's a sound decision. She should look at you like, all right, this guy's.

[Mal]

You got to get the Costco pack for sure.

[Rory]

Now, I want to ask you guys a fiscally responsible question. When you're going to get the plan B, do you get the CVS brand or the real brand? The real brand's around 50 to $60 now.

[Mal]

Now we want to make.

[Rory]

You could get the Dwayne Reed CVS Walgreens one for like $19.99.

[Mal]

N. Give me the one. We gonna make sure shorty's out of there.

[Rory]

Yo, giving a chick a cvs. Brandon plan B on that one.

[Damaris]

Like, that's the one.

[Julian]

Well, actually, that's financially responsible because they work the same.

[Damaris]

They probably do.

[Mal]

Do they?

[Julian]

Yes, they do. They probably the same. It's the same exactly.

[Mal]

I knew I should have gotten someone.

[Damaris]

To plan B. I've never had that happen. I had that one crazy chick I've talked about trying to baby trap me, but I've never had to actually get someone to plan B.

[Mal]

Like, get it for her.

[Damaris]

Yeah. Or like, unbeknownst to me, if she did it on her own. I just was never involved with that process.

[Julian]

That wayfair. Couch.

[Rory]

You really know how to pull out.

[Mal]

Julia definitely got a. You got some kids out here.

[Damaris]

0 chance of getting a kid.

[Rory]

You kind of struck me as a guy that like, crushes it up in a pancake batter, like.

[Damaris]

No, no.

[Rory]

Kind of gave me those.

[Julian]

Sprinkle that on the salmon.

[Mal]

Yeah, he put that on the couscous. Yeah, he put that on the couscous. No, it's Parmesan.

[Damaris]

It's blue.

[Rory]

Yeah. No, it's coke snorting.

[Mal]

It's blue cheese.

[Julian]

Snorting a plan B is sick, yo.

[Mal]

Crushing the plan B and telling a girl it's blue cheese.

[Rory]

That would not work. Blue cheese is not crunchy.

[Julian]

Why are you looking at me do?

[Mal]

I don't know. They didn't take it.

[Damaris]

I'm asking if plan B has a flavor.

[Julian]

No, it doesn't.

[Rory]

I've never taken it.

[Mal]

I didn't.

[Damaris]

Well, that's why she said that.

[Julian]

I didn't let that. I didn't sit on my tongue and dissolve. I swallowed it. I mean immediately.

[Mal]

So letting the plan be dissolved like a Listerine strip is crazy.

[Damaris]

Well, we've taken enough blue chew amongst.

[Mal]

This crew that you don't let it dissolve on you.

[Damaris]

No, no, no, no. But like, there's a distinct flavor. Kind of tastes like sweet tarts.

[Mal]

Yeah, a little bit.

[Damaris]

It's not bad. I'm just wondering if plan B was the same.

[Rory]

If you get the off brand plan B, you got to put it on ass.

[Damaris]

Do you?

[Rory]

Yeah, it's the only way against that. If you want to go cheaper, you have to do it. Listen, man, that's how medication works.

[Mal]

You want to make sure it gets in the. In the region fast and do what it does.

[Rory]

It's science.

[Mal]

Yeah, I get it.

[Julian]

Well, when I went to the Lotto concert, which is how we got on this conversation.

[Rory]

Lot of plan B in the room.

[Julian]

Mariah was there. Cuz I went. It was the day Thug got freed and remember we were talking about it before we left. We. We knew that he was having meetings and stuff. We didn't know what was going on. But when I got to the he was having meetings.

[Mal]

He was on trial for his meetings is hilarious. He was having meetings. Damaris. That wasn't Young Thug hasn't had a meeting in three years.

[Damaris]

It's not on his.

[Rory]

That wasn't recorded by the state of Georg.

[Mal]

Promise you he only wishes that was a meeting. But go ahead anyway.

[Julian]

I didn't know what was going on at the time we left. On a question note, but when we were at the Show. Mariah got on stage and she announced that, like, Thug was free. She started crying and stuff like that.

[Rory]

You better have cried, cuz. You cried when Gunna took.

[Julian]

I cried. No, I cried. I did cry for her because she was on stage crying. She was like, everybody laughed at me and told me I was crazy and that that man was never gonna see the light of day. And, like, he's home now. And she was like, boohoo. Crying when she was singing. And it was like a montage.

[Mal]

She was crying because she ain't. She ain't finished her yoga session. Y Thug going crazy. She know he coming home and going crazy.

[Damaris]

Oh, what a big weekend for her. It was her birthday too, on the 27th.

[Julian]

Oh, really?

[Damaris]

That's fun.

[Rory]

I love Damaris. Might be the X Factor. Anytime something happens with this case, she ends up at the Barclays with them. Takes a plea. Goes right to the Barclays.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Gets out Damaris. Goes right to the Barclays. Mariah Sciences.

[Mal]

We ain't check the bunny ears for a while either. So I don't know what's going on with Damaris.

[Julian]

It was. It was really. Anyway, the show was really nice. Mariah did a good job. Lotto did amazing. She ended up selling it out.

[Rory]

That's great.

[Julian]

Which was great.

[Mal]

Shout out to Lotto, man. That's. That's a big deal to sell out Barclays Center.

[Julian]

Yeah, she sold it out.

[Mal]

And a lot of people, you know, didn't expect Lotto to be able to. To pack that arena.

[Julian]

No, we didn't either.

[Rory]

I was being admitted.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Not hate her, but when I saw that she was doing arenas, I was like, well, that's risky.

[Mal]

Well, let's give. Let's give credit to Mariah, too. She had a fan base in the building as well.

[Julian]

Yes, absolutely did.

[Mal]

And shout out to whoever else was on it, because it was somebody else on the show, right?

[Julian]

No, it was just them, too. And then she brought out a Boogie, which I lost my mind because, as you should have, I boogie so much, I started crying. I haven't seen him in so long. So she bought out a Boogie. She bought out Lil Kim.

[Mal]

She said, I haven't seen him in so long.

[Julian]

Like, live.

[Mal]

I didn't know you'd be up there.

[Julian]

I haven't seen him live in so long. And, you know, he kind of been out of the limelight.

[Rory]

So.

[Julian]

Hey, Boogie came out. Lil Kim came out just at the.

[Mal]

Last show you was twerking at. Oh, Ice Spice. Hey, Boogie wasn't there.

[Julian]

Oh, I didn't See, I didn't see a boogie come out. I missed that.

[Mal]

Yeah, she bought him out.

[Julian]

I didn't see. I didn't know that. I came late. Oh, I didn't know that.

[Rory]

He's like the last artist that lives in New York, so I feel like anytime someone's at the Barclays, they call a boogie.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

As they should, though.

[Mal]

Well, how was Kim?

[Julian]

Kim was amazing. It was great. It was great seeing her. Lil Kim.

[Mal]

Oh, she performed. That's dope. Yep.

[Julian]

Seeing her embrace Lotto and stuff, it was. It was really, really. It was nice. It was a really good show. Good vibes.

[Mal]

Shout out to Lotto. To who?

[Rory]

To Lotto.

[Mal]

Like, Lotto's not from New York.

[Rory]

I know, but like women to women, because we group them all together.

[Mal]

Oh, yeah, we do that.

[Rory]

And like, here you go.

[Julian]

She hugged her and said she was dope. And she said when Lotto said, you the goat, Kim said, you about to be the goat, and that was it.

[Mal]

You bout to be the goat is funny.

[Rory]

See, passing the tour, that means you.

[Mal]

Ain'T the goat yet. Yo, you about to be the goat.

[Rory]

About to be the goat is funny.

[Mal]

That's like somebody telling you about to make the team. Like, what? Think I still gotta try out.

[Rory]

You about to win the final. Like, I got seven games to go. Don't put that on me yet.

[Mal]

Shout out to Young Thug, man. Welcome home, young Thug. He was freed on probation.

[Rory]

Yes.

[Mal]

Took a plea deal.

[Rory]

Was it 30 years of probation?

[Damaris]

I think it was 15.

[Rory]

Fifteen, okay. Can't be in the metro area of Atlanta. Can't speak to anybody but his dad, Gunna and Mariah, the scientist.

[Damaris]

Yeah, I do love that.

[Rory]

Listen, it's better than going to jail for life. And I do have nothing but confidence in Thug. Listen, man, if you stay clean and not run into any trouble while he's on parole, I hope everyone around him is super cautious and makes sure he doesn't get into any shit. If you're into some shit, stay away from him.

[Mal]

It's going to be tough, man. 15 years probation is crazy. To not get in any trouble, anybody. To not get into any trouble for 15 years is tough to do, let alone somebody in the spotlight, somebody that's, you know, recording artists and somebody that has faced drug addiction. Because we know obviously that's part of his probation as well. He's going to be drug tested and things like that. So it's tough. But I'm happy he's home with his family right in time for the holidays. The talking to certain People thing. I don't think it's gonna be too hard after all them snitched on him. I think it's easy for him to kind of like, eliminate people from his circle and, you know, just be around his family and his loved ones. But it's gonna take a lot. I'm interested to see how this is gonna affect his artistry. Not being able to, you know, be in the same environments where he probably drew inspiration from. Be around some. Some of the artists who probably was around at one point. It's gonna be interesting to see how it affects. Because obviously it affects his personal life.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

So naturally, it would have to affect the way he creates and the way he writes as well.

[Rory]

I feel like Thug's one of those artists that's like Wayne, Pac, Ty, like, they knock out, like, at least 10 songs a day. No problem. There was any other artist, I would be like, yeah, this may be odd for his music. I don't know. I feel like. But those is one of those.

[Mal]

That. Those are.

[Rory]

No matter where he.

[Mal]

On 15 years of probation, they were able to still move around in different circles and environments and things like that.

[Rory]

I just think with their work ethic and how quickly they can create, I think he will be okay.

[Mal]

I hope so, man.

[Rory]

You know, it's the email work.

[Mal]

Cause he knows one thing I could, you know, and. And I'm not saying nothing that Doug probably don't already know, but he know they own him. They feel like he got away, the case was all fucked up. But they. They. They on him. And. And the moment he have a hiccup, they gonna try to. They gonna try to rain down on him. So I just, you know, hopefully he stays clear again. You know, he's gonna need all the prayers. Cause 15 years probation is not easy for anybody.

[Rory]

And I was watching the interview with his pop. Shout out to his pop. Seems like a good guy. He was upset that, you know, Doug is from Atlanta, his family's in Atlanta. Him not being able to be in the metro Atlanta area, it's, you know, messed up for them. But, like, on a selfish side, I.

[Mal]

Was like, come see me.

[Rory]

I was like, man, that's probably the best thing for him is to be nowhere near Atlanta.

[Mal]

Get away from everybody, man. Get away from everybody. All the things that pull at you, the different energies, you know, the different vices and things like that, you know, it's better than being behind those. Behind that wall, in. In that cell. You know what I mean? So it. It is what it is.

[Rory]

I didn't See in his probation, any mention of having to stay in the States. I assume he has to for the next 15 years.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Unless it is something he'd get cleared with his parole officer for work before.

[Mal]

If it would have to be something like that, they would have to ask the, the, you know, the court and the judge if he's able to travel abroad. And if he is, he would have to check in and let them know where he's going, how long he plans to be there. You know, he's gonna have to. Everything is gonna have to be by the book because again, they feel like they had him. They wanted to put him in jail for a very long time. The state obviously fucked the whole case up and it was a shit show to begin with, but trust me, behind those walls, they're definitely waiting and hoping that he slips.

[Rory]

I. If he could find some way to make it for work and go to Bahrain or wherever the, and just get out of the United States, that would be the greatest thing, I think for Doug.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

And bring, bring the team with you.

[Damaris]

Here's some details from what happened with the actual hearing. The judge ordered he refrained from the metro Atlanta area, which we said unless he's allowed to return for weddings, funerals, graduations, but must leave within 48 hours of those events ending. He's required to return to the area four times a year for a pro on probation to host an anti gang anti gun presentation. He must also perform 100 hours of community service during each of his probation years and is not allowed to knowingly have any contact with any of the members in the criminal street gang. Yeah.

[Julian]

Wait a hundred hours a year? A year for 15 years?

[Mal]

No hours? No, I don't think, I think 100 hours total. Not every year. No.

[Damaris]

He must perform 100 hours of community service each of his probation years.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Oh, every year.

[Julian]

That's why I was like, oh, that's doable.

[Damaris]

100 hours.

[Rory]

Yeah, it's not that crazy.

[Mal]

It's either just like doing charity.

[Damaris]

The other side of that coin was 120 years in prison. So I'm good. Yeah.

[Rory]

And there's plenty of charities that. It's not like a bad trade off. If you donate some money, they'll sign off like, yo, he was here for.

[Mal]

If you tell me 120 years in prison or 100 hours of community service, I'll sweep every highway in Atlanta.

[Damaris]

That's a great deal.

[Mal]

With a tooth.

[Rory]

How dirty is 85? Just put me on the side of that shit.

[Mal]

120 years. Get the Fuck out of here. Clean.

[Rory]

Every day.

[Mal]

I sweep every hotel in Atlanta. I don't give a fuck.

[Julian]

God was on his side.

[Mal]

Not.

[Rory]

Not that I care too, too much. But there's been like, snippets. I'm not sure if he's saying he's cool with Gunna or not. I've seen so many conflicting.

[Mal]

Well, he was. Gunna was one of the ones that he actually, they asked to be in contact with. They have business together. He signed to him. But then Thug posted something interesting. He had a tweet and said, let's drop something on these rats.

[Julian]

I doubt that's about Gunna. I think it's about all the other people that ratted in there.

[Rory]

Plenty of other people.

[Mal]

Yeah. I'm not saying that was about Gunna, but, you know, people were like, who's he referring to? This, that and the third. You know, a lot of people saying, oh, he still wants to talk to Gunna. So everybody owes Gunna an apology. I think we spoke about it when it happened that we would have to see what Thug said. If he, if he said Gunna was still good, then it's all good. Either way, it is what it is. Gunna did. He did cooperate. We know that. We saw that. But we always said that it was probably part of their plan to get Gunna away from everything. You weren't involved in none of this. Get him out the way, Go home, Continue to make music, continue to do your thing, continue to generate money because we're gonna need capital. So, you know, that was all probably part of their. Part of their play.

[Rory]

And I mean, again, yeah, we said that day one, after that leaked with Gunna on the stand, they had so much evidence of the amount of people that had snitched and were going to take the stand. I don't think Gunna saying, yeah, YSL as a gang was really that detrimental to the entire case.

[Mal]

Right.

[Rory]

And yeah, him being the one that would be the moneymaker. Look what Gunna did when he got out. Put out one of the best rap albums sold. Sold. I think second or third, he was number one for.

[Damaris]

We've been saying he really.

[Rory]

He did what he was supposed to do after he got on that stand. He did what he was supposed to do, I think for ysl.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Rory]

As far as generating income, buzz, everything. And let's say Thug even did feel away. He still needs to be in contact with Gunna legally because if he signed to him, I feel like Gunna's team could be like, all right, we in our contract we need to break this. We can't even speak to the guy that signed us legally. Yeah, you need to end this contract. And that takes away God knows how much income that Thug probably needs right now. Yeah, he just had the longest trial in Georgia history. Yeah, that lawyer definitely had a pretty high retainer.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

So Thug's not about to say on. On the stance of the streets? Nah, gonna. No. I need the money.

[Damaris]

Yeah. Among the tweets that Doug set out, this one actually came out before he was released. His verdict came out. He tweeted at Drake, at FutureNetMetro. We all brought us. Music ain't the same without us collabing. This sparked a rumor that Future and Drake had spoken because of this tweet. And we've heard reports that they're good and then other reports that that never happened.

[Rory]

No, this. This didn't spark anything outside of Thug just requesting. What we all would like to see a week or two later is when Elliot Wilson came on his platform and said he had heard a valid rumor that Drake in Future got on the phone and all was well. That turned out to maybe not be true. I have no fucking idea. But I felt like after Family Matters, it sounded like Drake wasn't really that mad at Future to begin with. He blamed it on his man's. So I don't think it's far fetched to think that Drake and Future at least had a phone call and there's no real bad blood. I don't know if that means they're gonna record again together, but I understand what Doug was trying to say. What were your thoughts?

[Mal]

I didn't think about it. I didn't think about none of that.

[Rory]

Well, there was rumors on the timeline, which of course are valid, that Future was trying to get in contact with Drake shortly after the entire thing. And, you know, they. There was some. Some talks that maybe they would be cool again. I personally don't really care that much. I understand the rest of the world absolutely loves Future and Drake together. I like some of their music together, but I'm not. I'm not losing sleep over it.

[Mal]

I don't know. I mean, again, not Jen. Drake has probably said that in some of the bars, if I remember correctly, that they never really had an issue. So I think there's probably room for them to work together. Drake and Metro, I think is a little different.

[Rory]

I don't think that's ever happening.

[Mal]

Yeah, I don't think. Yeah, I don't think they'll work together, you know, but it's Just funny because, you know, that tweet, I read it differently. It was like, yeah, of course the music is different when the guy that makes the best music is no longer making music with other artists. Like, but that was part of the beef. It was like everybody on the guy that has helped them throughout their careers.

[Rory]

Yeah, but I mean, even if you go through what Drake and Metro have done. Yeah, I see what Thug was trying to say. And he. I'm sure Thug, who was in jail facing way crazier things than a rap beef, is looking at this from a way different perspective than the rest of us that were free, that were invested in this rappy.

[Mal]

Mm.

[Rory]

He's looking at like, does any of the y'all went through matter at all? Like, what I'm going through is actual serious, real life. He's looking at this like, I don't get it. Why can't we all just get along? Yeah.

[Mal]

I mean, I would love to hear Drake and Future still work together and even Metro, I would love to hear them on his production. But obviously it's personal there. That has to be hashed out away from, you know, just Thug tweeting it. It's like, that's real personal. Personal issues that as men, you know, I mean, before we move together professionally and, you know, work together, we gotta. We gotta address. We gotta address the real issue here.

[Rory]

Before we get to the rest of the Drake shit that happened this weekend. How do we think Thug is going to come out? Pause. Hey, yo, what do we think his first release is?

[Mal]

Is it.

[Rory]

Is it a single? Is it a tape? Is it a collab with somebody? How do we see Thug navigating through his quote unquote first day out record?

[Mal]

I think he will get a song probably by definitely before the holiday. I agree. I think we'll get some music. I don't know about a full project.

[Rory]

There's been some snippets out already that actually sound really, really good.

[Mal]

No, Doug, is that. I mean, he's had nothing but time. Obviously his mental space was somewhere different, but I'm sure he has songs written already. But, you know, it's different when you come home and you're able to now really sit down and really your mind is kind of free a little bit, and you don't have, you know, those four walls closing in on you in a prison cell. So you're able to think differently and create differently. But I'm pretty sure Thug is. He has. He has songs written.

[Damaris]

Oh, for sure, for sure. He's one of those guys his work ethic is insane.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Just in terms of his timeline. Business is Business was his last studio album, which released June to the 2023. But he's one of those guys where he definitely is sitting on a bunch.

[Rory]

Of music, which I feel like he might scrap a lot of it. I think he's gonna have a whole new perspective.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Yeah. Different energy. And now that he's. He's home, you know, he's probably gonna hear music, obviously hear music differently, get with some different producers and things like that.

[Rory]

And I'm sure some of it will go against his plea because I think he can't say certain words and certain gang shit.

[Mal]

But that's why I said I think.

[Rory]

A lot of stuff is gonna be scary.

[Mal]

Yeah. It's gonna be interesting to see how his. How it affects his. His art.

[Rory]

I don't think it. I think Thug's genius is so much more than some of the gang shit he was talking. Like. I think Thug's melodies are some of the best we've had in this generation. I don't think some of the gang talk is really going to affect his music that much at all, to be quite honest.

[Mal]

What if he leans into the whole AI thing and let him just use his likeness?

[Rory]

Well, I was curious. That snippet. I didn't know who that was in the car.

[Damaris]

Yeah, they said it was fake.

[Rory]

Forgive me. I just didn't know who it was. I didn't put too much credit to that because I thought it could have been a. It sounded really good.

[Mal]

That would be an interesting play. You know, Tell the judge that ain't me. Like, I didn't say none of that.

[Rory]

I'm sure there's a way to prove AI too.

[Mal]

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like, I didn't say that. You.

[Rory]

Let's cook up the AI version of what I just did and then bring it to my profile.

[Mal]

That's not me. Yeah, that's not me. That's AI. They're using my likeness and my inflections and my voice and things like that. But that's not me.

[Rory]

Look at the new parole shit. Pissing a cup. And then. Let me see the stems.

[Mal]

Yeah, you see it.

[Rory]

How do we want to get into honoring Vince Carter? That's how I looked at this entire.

[Mal]

Shout out to Vin Sanity Air Canada.

[Rory]

One of the greatest Carter.

[Mal]

One of the most underrated NBA players ever, in my opinion. But I am, you know, old enough to remember when Vince Carter was one of the best players in the league by far.

[Rory]

I mean, for, for my era, he definitely was.

[Mal]

Yeah. So shout out to Vince. One of the really good dude too. Vince is one of the most solid. You know, a lot of these athletes have egos and then the Vince, every time you see Vince, he's the same person. It's always love. So to see him being honored by the NBA and being honored by Toronto and have his jersey retired was dope.

[Rory]

Do we blame Vince and Drake for ruining the best kept secret on planet Earth, which is the city of Toronto?

[Mal]

Ruin it.

[Rory]

I mean, it was, it was, it was a gem.

[Mal]

It's still a gym.

[Rory]

I know, but like everyone knows about.

[Mal]

The gym now, but people know about it. But a lot of people haven't been to the gym. A lot of people haven't seen it. They haven't actually been to Toronto. They've heard great things about it. I think that Vince Carter obviously was the, was the guy that on a, you know, and as far as sports, he was probably the most iconic sports figure in Toronto history. And then obviously what Drake did culturally and just on a music level, he brought a lot of respect and notoriety to Toronto. So they're definitely two of the most iconic symbols in Toronto. And it was dope to see them both in the building and to see Drake honoring Vince Carter.

[Rory]

And I know Toronto wasn't like that well known when Vince was there. I know he was running through Scarborough.

[Mal]

No, Vinny had a club. He had a club in Toronto.

[Rory]

Of course he did.

[Mal]

He had a club, I think it was called Government or something like that. Just pick out the name of the club.

[Rory]

Um, during the game, Chubbs and Drake were, were courtside, which, you know, is, isn't a, a new thing. He's an ambassador of, of the Raptors. Goes to a lot of games. Um, obviously Vince getting his, his number retired, right?

[Mal]

Yep. His jerseys retired.

[Rory]

Putting up that banner in the rafters. Big, big moment. Not, not a surprise that Drake was there whatsoever. Or Chubbs. They just happened to be playing the Kings, so tension was in the air. It wasn't just the Vince Carter night by any means. I'm not going to say Drake showed up because DeMar DeRozan was there, but he did stand up for most of the game.

[Damaris]

There's a lot of grilling.

[Rory]

If I paid for the seats behind him, I'd be a little upset. Like, sit down, Chubbs.

[Damaris]

For the people that aren't sports Fans are aware. DeMar DeRozan was a star on the Toronto Raptors. He's from LA.

[Rory]

He got traded from Compton Specifically, yeah.

[Damaris]

He got traded to the Kings. He moved now playing in Sacramento. But he also. Being from Compton is a big allegiance to the West Coast. And he was at the Pop up, the Kendrick show, the Ken and Friends one on Juneteenth.

[Rory]

He was also brought up in a song, Not Like Us. Yeah, his name is in it, wasn't he?

[Damaris]

Yeah, he was in the music video.

[Rory]

Also in the video, which definitely caused some tension, we can assume between him and Drake, because him and Drake were besties. I don't know if they were friends per se, but, you know, they. They hung out.

[Damaris]

I saw a clip of DeRozan saying, like, when he got.

[Mal]

They were friends, man.

[Damaris]

I don't know.

[Rory]

I don't hang out with Drake. There was a clip circulating friends with Kyle Lowry. Is he friends with every raptor ever?

[Mal]

Demar has spoken to Drake being a friend. He's spoken to him before. He's been on Club Shay Shay and how when he got traded and he was heartbroken, Drake, you know, he went to Drake's house and, you know, Drake, you know, helped him through that moment, let him know Toronto will always love him and appreciate him, like, you know what I mean? So it's. It was. He was a friend. He was there for Lamar when he was fucked up going through that situation. And, you know, so we not gonna act like, oh, were they friends? They were friends.

[Rory]

Okay. Yeah, that solved that. I didn't know they were friends. Obviously has a history with Kendrick Lamar. They're also on record doing a lot for the city of Compton. Parades, marches, community work. They've been friends. Compton is only but 10 miles at most.

[Mal]

Right.

[Rory]

So definitely have a relationship there. He chose aside, clearly, because he showed up in a video where Drake was a pedophile. I don't think there would have been tension had he not. Because how could you get mad at him just for Kendrick bringing his name, name up in a song? You can't do anything about that.

[Mal]

But no, it wasn't.

[Rory]

But it was.

[Mal]

You were in the video.

[Rory]

It was the video.

[Mal]

Yeah, yeah, you.

[Rory]

You look great in the video.

[Mal]

You showed support in that moment. Like, you showed support in that moment for a record and an energy that was directly disrespecting, you know, a guy that was a friend of yours. That made it very comfortable for you during your time in Toronto, made sure the city embraced you, rolled out the red carpet for you, treated you like one of their own. And then the first chance, you know, you got to show your true colors and how you felt, you know, you Chose to. You chose a side, and that's fine. But I just don't understand how people are saying, oh, Drake is corny for this and this that. It's like, okay, I made it comfortable for you for years. So your first time back, I'm gonna make it uncomfortable.

[Rory]

I don't know if Drake made it comfortable for him. I think he would have been. What if Drake never existed? I think he would have been okay in the city of Toronto.

[Mal]

I'm not saying he wouldn't have been okay. I'm saying that him being him and Drake having a friendship and a relationship while he was in Toronto definitely helped demar have a better time and experience Toronto at a different level.

[Rory]

Okay, I'll go with what the Internet conspiracies of this entire thing was. He brought Chubbs instead of his son, which I thought was an odd conspiracy, because he's brought his son and Chubbs before. Like, it's not really.

[Mal]

Yeah, that's just people.

[Rory]

That was kind of a reach. But they brought Chubbs, like, to intimidate.

[Mal]

No, he didn't, man.

[Rory]

A very large basketball player from the city of Compton. Yeah, I don't think demar was that intimidated by anybody.

[Mal]

I don't think demar was intimidated a professional athlete.

[Rory]

Now, Chubbs and Drake were standing a lot of the game staring at him directly, even when the ball wasn't even in his hands and demar was not looking at them. And then at the end of the game, somebody who I believe is just, I don't know, a mouth interpreter, said, Drake said, fuck out of here, pussy. Or go that way, pussy. After the game, which I'm not here to stick up for Drake is not that crazy for a fan to yell at a player at any sporting event.

[Mal]

Right?

[Damaris]

Well, that's different circumstances.

[Mal]

Fans. Fans have yelled worse. I've been to a lot of games.

[Damaris]

And they've yelled a game in Boston.

[Mal]

Yeah, they've yelled crazy. For sure.

[Rory]

They yell crazier in the podcast crowd.

[Mal]

This was. No, but this was obviously. Again, we. We know what this is.

[Damaris]

There was the moment where Drake, because he does the local tsn, the Toronto sports news broadcast through the. In the game. And the guy talking to Drake, the sports commentator, said, you know, what are your thoughts if the Raptors were to retire demar's jersey? And Drake's response to that comment was this, sure, yes.

[Mal]

If you ever put a DeRozan banner up, I'll go up there and pull it down myself. That's the answer.

[Damaris]

So that in combination of him calling Him a pussy. The stare downs.

[Rory]

Oh, no, I'm not excusing. I'm joking with fan banter. Like, we've seen what fan banter can do if Ron Artest is in the building. Like, this is not that. I'm not going to pretend like, Drake and Chubbs were not dead staring at that guy upset. And I wouldn't say trying to intimidate him, but making sure he knew that they were there. A lot of people clown Drake for some tough guy shit. In that regard. I don't know if you can really say what someone's intentions were. I think Drake would have been there anyways. But at the same time, yeah, they were staring at him like, what's up, pussy? But what are you gonna do with a basketball game?

[Mal]

What are they supposed to do? You want some poutine, Demar? Like, what the fuck? Are they supposed to orphan poontine? Like. Yeah, they're supposed to make it uncomfortable. Ice grill him, say, yell at him. Yeah, that's what. That's what's supposed to happen. We're gonna make it uncomfortable. Uncomfortable for you during this.

[Rory]

But that's a little different than, like, when Drake was doing that to other players when he was the Ambassador and the. The Raptors were in the playoffs and.

[Mal]

Well, yes, it's different now.

[Rory]

Now it's like this is actually real. Because we have an issue outside of basketball rap with you.

[Mal]

Yeah, this is different.

[Damaris]

This issue has nothing to do with basketball.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

At all.

[Mal]

No.

[Rory]

So why not do that somewhere else?

[Mal]

Do it where?

[Rory]

Oh, I don't know.

[Mal]

In Target.

[Rory]

I mean, if they both happen to stomach.

[Mal]

I know where you at tonight. I know where you'll be playing at. I have courtside seats.

[Rory]

But what does that do? Like, what. What is the end result of that entire thing?

[Mal]

It just lets you mar.

[Rory]

Did not feel anything. I'm.

[Mal]

I'm sure it's not about Demar feeling anything. It's just letting you know I'm not with you.

[Rory]

Okay.

[Damaris]

I think it's more Drake validating that for himself.

[Mal]

Yeah, like, I'm not.

[Damaris]

I think you're right, Rory. I don't think Demar gives a. At all. He cares about what?

[Rory]

Not.

[Mal]

Not about his physical being. No, I know nobody's gonna. I'm not talking about that. But he don't think that Demar didn't feel awkward running up the court. And every time he probably looked at Drake, Drake was ice grilling him. And, like, that's the first time that's happened to him. Like, they were friends these Are they were friends at one point. This. He definitely felt that.

[Rory]

I feel like NBA players have felt that with women in the crowd, other people. I feel like this is a feeling every NBA player has had before with someone sitting close to the court that has a personal issue with them. We just didn't know about it. This one just happens to be Drake. I don't think it affected him once. That's an all Star right there. He's been through plenty of these situations. It just wasn't Drake.

[Mal]

Yeah, exactly. So it's not the same situation. It's not.

[Rory]

I feel like it'd be crazier if you had an ex girlfriend that was sitting in the family section next to your wife than it would be Aubrey Graham courtside with you.

[Mal]

No, that's nothing. When you make 200 million hoes get along.

[Damaris]

Shout out James Harden if you make 200 million.

[Rory]

I don't. I don't think Drake being courtside matters that much either. Like what? No, it's gonna stop my paper because Drake don't like me.

[Mal]

No, it's not about stopping you getting into other things. Nobody's papers being stopped. Nobody's gonna be physically harmed. It's just letting you know in case you didn't know.

[Rory]

I think he knew.

[Mal]

I don't. With you.

[Rory]

I think that's all. I think when he got that call sheet, he knew it was time.

[Mal]

Yeah, but I mean, it's just fun. It's just fun to see it. I like that.

[Damaris]

It DeMar DeRozan was asked after the game what he thought about Drake's comments because the reporters told him and he said he's going to have a long way to climb. Tell him good luck. And then he got up and left.

[Mal]

The funny is I don't know if DeRozan gets his number retired by Toronto.

[Rory]

He's number one in every category with the Raptors. He's 1,000% going to.

[Damaris]

He put up 33 in this game, by the way. I'm looking at his stats, so we.

[Mal]

Ain'T gotta listen to Mars. One of the best players in the league.

[Damaris]

I don't know if the stare down affected his ability.

[Rory]

I was looking at the stats. Of course. Everyone's posting everything while it's happening. He leads in almost every category for the Raptors.

[Mal]

As far as career, the more he's one of the best players in the league.

[Rory]

Yeah, he's getting his jersey because Vince is what, the first one ever, Right. For the Raptors. Yeah. I think DeMar will be there and I think it Makes Drake look weird. I know he was trying to, like, be funny and. And off the cuff talking about.

[Mal]

Yeah, I don't think.

[Rory]

I don't think that jersey's gonna go up and Drake's not going to get a ladder and get it.

[Mal]

I think. I think if it. If his jersey does go up, it's not that serious. I don't think Drake cares that much. I think it was. It was just a statement that I'm not with you. That's all. Yeah.

[Rory]

We can stay on Young Money. Over the weekend, Wheezy Ana Fest also happened in New Orleans, and we got the hot boy reunion that we've all been looking for. Big timers. It was a love fest. I was excited to see everyone. Did you watch the stream?

[Mal]

I didn't watch the stream, but it was seeing some of the clips. It was good to see them together, especially because we all know that the history. Over the years, they've had issues and certain members weren't speaking to each other, things like that. So it's good to see them put that behind them and, you know, get back to the music and support Wayne and his festival BG being on stage.

[Rory]

Yeah, like, it was great. It also had me thinking, damn, Mannie Fresh produced all this by himself for 20 years. Crazy when you start thinking about that. I know he got his flowers during verses and you know it's Manny Fresh. We know that. But to sit and watch this for an hour and a half, like, it was all Manny Fresh records by himself. Like, not a team. He's not like the Hitman. Everything that happens with Bad Boy, I respect everything. But every one of these songs is Manny Fresh all by himself. There's never been like, oh, alleged he had some ghost producer. It's just Manny.

[Mal]

Just Manny. Yeah.

[Rory]

So I. I think he should have really got his flowers. But it was fun. I know a lot of people were like, why wasn't Drake there? Why take away from the moment of a hot boy reunion? I mean, I guess I get it. That's. That's your man's. But why didn't they say that with every other Louisiana festival?

[Mal]

You know why they didn't say that.

[Rory]

Why you said no, but why are you trying to base you a little bit?

[Mal]

I know, but stop doing that because Stop trying to bait me into the bullshit. You know why they do that?

[Rory]

I'm asking the question that the whole Internet was asking over the weekend. Why is Drake not at this but courtside mean mugging another NBA player?

[Mal]

Because that's what he felt like Doing. Look how. Look, that just. You don't like that answer, right? You don't like that you want something. You want something more.

[Rory]

Who did more for his life? Vince Carter or Lil Wayne?

[Mal]

Maybe Vince.

[Rory]

I just see now you're doing the.

[Mal]

You wasn't in Toronto growing up when Vince was out there dunking. You don't know what that did for Drake and his. His. His inspiration and all that, you know? That's all I'm saying.

[Rory]

What has Wayne done for.

[Mal]

I mean, he helped him a little bit. Like, he helped him out a little bit. Yeah.

[Rory]

I don't know. I guess my opinion on this isn't going to be as clickbaity as I think people want. I. I don't. Maybe Wayne didn't call him. Maybe Drake didn't want to step on the Hot Boy reunion. Why hasn't them been brought up for every single one of these?

[Mal]

You know why they haven't been brought up every single year? You know. You know why this year is different. But I think to what you said, though, it could possibly be sometimes when you're a star and the artist as big as Drake, you know that once you're in the room and on the stage, you're the polarizing figure. So it takes away from the Hot Boys moment because Drake is here, Drake is performing, and then everybody talks about Drake performing instead of keeping it the Hot Boys reunion. So I think that's probably why now.

[Rory]

If they would have done Hot Boys Reunion, big Timers, everything, and then did the Next Generation and Nikki came, Tyga came.

[Mal]

That's different.

[Rory]

Now I would be looking at Drake.

[Mal]

Like, this is weird because then that's a Young Money thing. That's a Young Money reunion.

[Rory]

So, I mean, I see. I would probably stay away from it too, outside of like with the beef and everything, if y'all doing the Hot Boy reunion.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Do we need a Drake set in this?

[Mal]

No.

[Rory]

Like, let's keep it New Orleans.

[Mal]

No.

[Rory]

Also during his performance, he went on. I wouldn't call it a Super bowl ramp, but did address everything that we've been talking about on the pod, what the Internet's been talking about. Wayne should have gotten the super bowl and it was taken away from him for Kendrick Lamar. Do we have the clip?

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Rory]

That moment I said to myself, I.

[Mal]

Want to be on stage for the super bowl one day in front of my mom, and I worked my ass.

[Damaris]

Off to get that position and it.

[Rory]

Was ripped away from me.

[Mal]

But this moment right here.

[Damaris]

They can't take that, man. They can't Take that.

[Rory]

I think. I think this moment's better, in my opinion, for everything that cash money has done for New Orleans and the world, to have at Weezy's own festival, that moment, rather than it happening at the Super Bowl, I think is cooler, in my opinion. I don't think the super bowl should dictate the culture whatsoever. I think it's great that the culture's getting in the door with the super bowl, but this is cooler to me. This is Wayne's festival in New Orleans. To me, that's better.

[Mal]

Yeah. I mean, I personally, I think every artist wants that stage, that moment of the super bowl being the biggest stage in the world. But, you know, it's just. I just wish people would just be honest with themselves. Like, I don't think Wayne is ever getting.

[Damaris]

No, thank you.

[Rory]

Okay.

[Mal]

Christ, no.

[Rory]

I'm here to have the honest conversation. Not saying I wanted to leave.

[Mal]

That doesn't take nothing.

[Rory]

Wayne deserves first.

[Mal]

Listen, we don't. Wayne is a legend. He's a goat. We know that. That's not him. Not doing the super bowl takes nothing away from him. We just have to keep inspiring perspective what the super bowl is. Wayne's content is not super bowl stage middle America content.

[Rory]

Some would say Kendrick's isn't either, but for different reasons.

[Mal]

Different reasons.

[Rory]

For way different reasons. And I think that's why they actually put Jay in position. So content like Kendrick's can be on the stage like the Super Bowl. But I want to start with saying how much I love Wayne and how incredible he is while I was also watching this stream and loving every moment. Hot boy shit. Every Wayne record. It proved to me why Wayne probably didn't get the Super Bowl.

[Damaris]

His performance isn't good.

[Rory]

The performance wasn't at that level. And not to say if Wayne locked in and focused on putting together a Super bowl performance, he couldn't do that. But he has never proven otherwise. There is no. There's no evidence that Wayne could put together a performance like that.

[Mal]

Right.

[Rory]

And a lot of the hits that Wayne has are very on a large scale niche. They're number one records, don't get me wrong. But when it comes to what you're saying, a platform like the Super Bowl, Middle America. Nah, Here, let's just. It's not put together.

[Mal]

Put together. Wayne said at the.

[Rory]

At the super bowl and we're having the conversation people need to have, we're going to come across as haters. But I agree with you wholeheartedly. And everyone knows I love Wayne. I don't Care about that. He's just not ready for the Super Bowl. Well, yeah.

[Mal]

I mean, the Internet thinking I'm a hater means nothing to me. I'm talking about super bowl performance. That level, it's not. That's not for everybody, and that's okay.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

I would love to see Jadakiss get a fucking super bowl performance.

[Rory]

The Locksters.

[Mal]

Guess what? It's never gonna happen.

[Rory]

We've had debates, too, about HOV and what his set would look like.

[Mal]

Exactly.

[Rory]

We've seen HOV do arenas constantly. We've seen him do stadiums. A lot of that stuff was next to Beyonce. I don't. I want to make sure people know we're not doing some weird Wayne shit. Put together a HOV halftime. That's. That's a tough one, too.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Rory]

It's not as tough as Wayne, but.

[Julian]

All right.

[Rory]

You gotta leash the keys. New York.

[Julian]

Thinking that that's the only song Jay Z could perform is. You know better than that. You know better than that.

[Rory]

Of course. But if you get into Jay's hits, I don't know if they're super bowl appropriate.

[Mal]

You want to see Jay do a Cashmere Thoughts at the Super Bowl?

[Rory]

You know, I love. You know, I love a Bisa 22 twos. Like, if you go through Jay catalog. Yeah, that. That's a tough super bowl thing to put together, too, if you don't have guests involved with it.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

So, yeah, it's more of a rap thing, unfortunately.

[Mal]

And I get it. It's. It's in New Orleans, so people thought, you know, it was gonna go to. I. I don't even know how people thought that. Yeah. I don't know. I don't even know how. Such a weird narrative like, yo, it's in New Orleans, so it should go to Wayne.

[Julian]

Nobody thought that. But Twitter.

[Damaris]

It's a Internet Twitter rumor that they just ran with into to the. I'm sorry, but, like, Wayne, the audacity to say this was ripped from me. It was never yours to have. You were never in consideration for it. Some guys on Twitter took the opportunity to throw your name out there and be like, would have been cool if Wayne. And then it got enough steam that all of a sudden, it should have been yours. That's not how works. Yeah, it was never yours.

[Mal]

You can't go to New Orleans no more.

[Damaris]

I don't want to go to New Orleans.

[Rory]

Why not? New Orleans is a great city, but.

[Damaris]

I actually want to pop Jazz Fest. I'll be there.

[Mal]

I'm just letting you know.

[Damaris]

But like, come on, let's be honest.

[Mal]

Let's be.

[Damaris]

This is a live stre extreme event.

[Mal]

This is biggest stage. You more than anybody in this room know how I feel. You know, that's what I'm trying to get you there. Mark.

[Damaris]

I look like I'm getting killed right now.

[Mal]

No, it's not about.

[Julian]

Because he said it so much.

[Mal]

It's not about that. But it's just. Y'all know how I feel about Wayne. I. With Wayne. I love Wayne. But his catalog. We just talking about music here. His catalog is not super bowl catalog.

[Damaris]

That's not even argue.

[Rory]

But see, I'm not even on the side. Forget the catalog. It's the performance sucks. Everyone knows I'm a 50. Stan 50 has Middle America hits. He has done that shit. We know this last get Richard I trying tour. Look what he did and put on somewhat of a show. I think 50 by himself at halftime would be weird.

[Mal]

Yeah, like, that'll be another. He'll never get a halftime.

[Damaris]

Just. Rappers aren't great. I mean, because rap culture doesn't breed great performers. You're supposed to look cool and like, chill.

[Rory]

Yeah. And I'm not here.

[Damaris]

It's an anomaly when it comes to that post Kanye.

[Rory]

And again, I'm. Let's just be honest, even if we don't like Kanye, Kanye stepped up when it comes to rap performances. There's a different caliber after that. People demanded more from rap live shows after Kanye west, when it came to arenas and, you know, just big stages outside of your lower tier theater.

[Mal]

But it's different with Kanye. Kanye's a different artist. True, yes, he raps, but he's a different.

[Rory]

Kendrick took a play out of his book. As far as what his live show looks like, where Kendrick is very much rapity rap, but he puts on a show and a performance. You can look through his career and see what he's done with a performance. You can't do that with 50. You can't do that with Wayne. If hov's not sitting next to Beyonce, you can't say that with hov either. So as much as people think this is a Wayne thing, it's not. It's just a rap performance. We've never demanded so much from a rapper when it came to a big stage and what they do with their music live, it's just we haven't.

[Mal]

I just think people just need to just be like, we have our favorites. We have the artists we love. We support it. You know, we grew up listening to. But when you start talking about one of the biggest, most watched events in the world. That's only reserved for a select few. And sometimes our favorites are just not one of those selected few. And that's okay. Little Louisiana, your people, your city come out, your catalog. You know, reunion with your brothers, everybody on stage. To me, that's more. And that's your Super Bowl. Little Louisiana is your super bowl.

[Rory]

And I think it's better. It's yours.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

In your city.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

I think it's cooler that way.

[Mal]

We all have our things that we want. Like, yo, I was. I wanted that Super Bowl. I get it. I understand what Wayne. But if we just having a real conversation. Sometimes I have to have real conversations in front of a camera. But this ain't nothing. I wouldn't tell Wayne if I was one of his homies. Like, bro, let's be honest, though. Like Super Bowl.

[Rory]

If. If Wayne in fact did get a Super bowl in New Orleans and did a Hot boys reunion, I would love to see a documentary solely focused on the producer backstage of that show. That would be the greatest reality series I would ever see in my life in New Orleans. Hot Boys Lil Wayne reunion. What backstage looked like?

[Mal]

Yeah. Can you hear? Can you. You can see the person now on the headpiece like, anybody seen Turk? Do we have eyes on Turk? Do we have eyes on Turk? He's due on stage in two minutes.

[Rory]

I have been stripped down naked. They stole my radio. I am now a hostage, man.

[Mal]

Super bowl ain't dealing with that, man.

[Rory]

There's not enough pluses at the Super Bowl.

[Damaris]

There were a lot of clips going around from this show. Kind of like saying. Kind of agreeing with what we were saying with the lack and Wayne's performance. This clip in particular was one that I was like, all right, well, I.

[Rory]

Mean, I like it. No, I'm on board.

[Julian]

Got me lit.

[Rory]

I'm actually. I'm not mad at that. But also, it's not fair to find two seconds out of an hour and a half before.

[Damaris]

No, there's many. We can pull another.

[Rory]

I've seen him live a lot. Yeah, I'm aware.

[Mal]

But come on.

[Damaris]

We could just be honest.

[Mal]

Like, I'm surprised you being this honest.

[Damaris]

No, because I love. This is your hero and I love Wayne's catalog. He's a great. But not all artists are great performers. That's just the fact of the matter. And the super bowl is a TV based performance. They're not telling you to go up there and hit play on an aux court.

[Mal]

Yeah, but see, y'all. Y'all Argue with me outside the Apollo after we left that show. And I said the same.

[Damaris]

I loved the music that he was performing the performance of.

[Mal]

It was awful, but that's what I said. And you was like, nah.

[Julian]

You said that the music sucked.

[Damaris]

You said, these songs are trash. He was doing all of, like, no ceilings, whatever. And you were looking at me like, you really jacking this? And I was like.

[Mal]

Everybody was looking at each other, like.

[Damaris]

Because we were laughing at the performance. The song is part of the performance.

[Mal]

Is that the song ain't what we thought it was.

[Damaris]

Rory, we had a good time.

[Rory]

We had a great time.

[Mal]

No, you didn't. I was standing right next to you.

[Damaris]

Aaron Judge was behind us. He was bobbing his ass.

[Mal]

You was more interested in that.

[Damaris]

Relax.

[Mal]

You was more hype about. Y'all was more hyped about Aaron Judge being right there than fucking Wayne being on stage.

[Rory]

That's not true.

[Mal]

Maybe he was all right, man.

[Rory]

I was more confused while I was sitting next to Corey Guns and he wasn't on stage. But that.

[Mal]

That pulled more of your attention. Like, yo, Corey Wright, he could have did.

[Rory]

He could have did the craziest verses ever.

[Damaris]

Six foot seven.

[Rory]

Oh, man, I don't mind Wayne's performance in a venue like the Apollo. I thought that was great. But on a. In a stadium. No.

[Mal]

Yeah, we love Wayne, man. Shout out Wayne Legend.

[Rory]

But just go watch what the Weeknd did during the COVID Super Bowl.

[Mal]

No, that was like.

[Rory]

Yeah, that's the caliber. Even Rihanna, who has the only kind of, like, Achilles heel she's had her whole career, is that she's not a great performer. Look what she did.

[Mal]

Is that Achilles Hill? She always thought it was a. Vocally.

[Damaris]

She that pregnant, too, but not performance.

[Julian]

But.

[Rory]

Well, yeah, that came out with her performance, but she got way, way, way better. Like, she worked on it for sure. But yeah, that was always a thing because she wasn't vocally strong. Her performance on tour wasn't the greatest.

[Mal]

Shout out to Lil Wayne, L.A. shout out to the Hot Boys reunion. Hopefully we get a project for them that would be dope to hear, you know, hear those guys again.

[Rory]

I'm not letting you do that. You just. You just shitted on Dr. Dre and Snoop Dogg putting the album out now. You want a Hot Boys album?

[Mal]

I want to hear what Turk and BG and Wayne and juvie have to say before I want to hear about. Snoop has been selling us Coronas with limes on beaches.

[Rory]

I'll buy them for 15 years.

[Mal]

I don't Think Snoop even cares to rap anymore? Just me. I don't think Snoop cares to rap. I don't think it's his passion is rapping anymore. I still think the hot boys are passionate about rapping.

[Rory]

Yeah, probably.

[Mal]

So Snoop selling air fryers and shit, man. He ain't got time for you. You niggas rapping.

[Damaris]

Speaking of someone that's selling quite a bit, Tyler's first week numbers came in and he is 500 units shy of 300k. So he did 299. 299,500 first week sales.

[Rory]

Which is crazy because he did it off cycle. I hope this starts a new trend where people can just release when they.

[Mal]

Want back to bring the releases back to when they were supposed to release on a Monday night. Yeah, Monday night.

[Rory]

Tuesday morning. It was always Tuesday morning.

[Mal]

Bring it back, man.

[Damaris]

This is his third consecutive number one coming off of. He's cracked a hundred thousand. A hundred thousand first week with Flower Boy and since then he's just gone up pretty incrementally.

[Rory]

And Flower Boy at that time cracking 100 was crazy. Yeah, the music industry was at. At that time.

[Mal]

All right, now here's Shout out to Tyler Dope. We don't have to say that.

[Rory]

Here's some hate.

[Mal]

No, but almost 300k. I feel like Igor and Coma if you get lost is better than Chroma Copia off of just like a couple listens. I definitely think he almost doubled what he did.

[Rory]

I definitely think Igor is. I haven't had enough time with this album to say otherwise. Would Call me if you get lost. I think that's kind of unfair. It's only a week out. But I mean he had the momentum coming off Igor Call me if you get lost. The deluxe of Call me if you get lost a year later, which was a whole nother album. Yeah, he just has way more momentum.

[Damaris]

Yeah, he's just a much bigger artist. I agree with you. Mall Igor, to me, Flower Boy, Igor and Call me a Loss are better albums. I like Chromo Copia a lot, but I don't love it the way I love the other three.

[Mal]

Now I will say they marketed the shit out of this Chromo Copia shit.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Like lime green trailers in different cities and all of that. Like they. The marketing was great.

[Rory]

Old school marketing. But you need a lot of money to do old school marketing.

[Mal]

That is very true. I'm just saying 300k. I was surprised to see that number with Tyler.

[Julian]

I'm not surprised. His fan base is. And he Has a.

[Mal]

This is his biggest first week release ever and is almost double what he did on his. Probably his best album. Yeah, I'm just saying. I was surprised to see almost 300. That was crazy. I was like, God damn.

[Rory]

But also, like, not to be corny, people are kind of starving for real music. I feel like, are they there? There's a lot of great music out there. I'm not that person. But a lot of it is, quote, unquote, underground. You have to go search for really good music at this point. He's an A list rapper. I don't want to just call him a rapper, but a list artist. And we don't have a lot of those anymore. So if Metro and Future are doing 245, it doesn't shock me at all that Tyler's doing 300. I think there's a large group of people that are looking for this type of music right now. And when it comes to A listers or even B list artists, we don't have a lot of it. So that whole group starts to champion Tyler like we've talked about. I was not a huge Tyler fan in the beginning. I understood what our Future was doing. I respected it, but wasn't really my. My type of shit. I was saying, shoot up schools, rape everyone. Then when he got to Flower Boy, I was like, oh, yeah. His nerd influence I can start to hear now right from there. I've just loved Tyler. Like, he turned me into a huge fan from someone that wasn't.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Rory]

And I think I'm me being a music nerd that pays attention to that. For someone that's a casual fan, it may take a few more years for them to really get on board. And I think after Igor and call me if you get lost, that took the casual fan to Tyler because a lot of people don't pay attention to shit and still think Tyler's making weirdo music, quote, unquote. Which he's doing the complete opposite.

[Mal]

Right?

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Mal]

So, no, he's making good music.

[Rory]

I think it just.

[Damaris]

Finally, music is great.

[Mal]

I just think that this album, like, I don't like how y'all feeling. Like, I don't. It's not. To me, it's not better than Igor or Comey.

[Damaris]

I wouldn't say it's better than those for me, but I. It's. It's a step in a. In a interesting and, like, still nuanced direction that's like, for me, worth listening to a bunch of times. Like, I. I didn't love it immediately but it's. I've been listening to it all weekend and the more I listen to it, the more I like it.

[Rory]

I'm. I'm still have the. I have the same opinion I had last episode when it came out. It's all over the place but in a good way. I'm still trying to figure it out.

[Damaris]

Maris is in shock right now.

[Julian]

I'm over here choking. I'm sorry I'm listening to y'all. But like I wanted to compare his first week numbers to other albums that have come out this year. He had the second highest selling hip hop album with the re release of Travis's being beat him by like 62,000 units. But I just went to just google Taylor Swift just to see what she was throwing out there.

[Mal]

That's not.

[Rory]

That's not.

[Julian]

And I'm not comparing. I just wanted to see like just to. I did not know Taylor Swift was selling 2.6 million first week. That's why I'm over here choking. I knew it was tied.

[Rory]

That's a flopped her.

[Mal]

I knew it was a bad week.

[Rory]

The label might drop her for that.

[Julian]

I expected it to be around 900,000 to like a million. Hell 2.6 million. That's why I was over like.

[Mal]

Yeah, but do you understand, you understand the Taylor like every. Everybody can. Five year old can sing her songs. A 50 year old woman can sing her songs.

[Rory]

Like yeah, that doesn't. That's like a whole another stratosphere.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Second, second on the list is Billy Eilish Hit me hard and soft with 306,000 and then would be Tyler. So he's got the third highest selling album of the year.

[Julian]

Well technically he beat Cowboy. Technically Travis beat.

[Damaris]

Yeah. That's a re release.

[Julian]

I mean but it's a re release.

[Rory]

I don't think.

[Mal]

What label is Tyler?

[Damaris]

Huh?

[Mal]

What label is this on?

[Damaris]

Tyler's Columbia. Yeah.

[Rory]

Sony.

[Mal]

Okay.

[Rory]

But I mean it further. Further proves my points all the negative. Get off my lawn music fans every single year no matter what. Even if you think rap is in the. A real artist always is number one. You could have the worst rap coming out period. There's always going to be an amazing artist that leads that year. So.

[Damaris]

Look at these. I'm sorry. I just found a graph that shows all of Taylor Swift's album.

[Rory]

Are you guys new here?

[Damaris]

No, I just. This scale is. This is insane.

[Julian]

I. I really was. I know she sold a lot but like by a lot. By a lot. You don't really put a number on it. So when you put a number on it.

[Mal]

It's like, I'm willing to bet Taylor's like, that's off. Like, if you like, yo, you did 2.6 shit. Be like, that was off.

[Rory]

Recount.

[Damaris]

She's debuted over a million seven times.

[Julian]

I just also just think that it's amazing that her and Beyonce are able to sell out the same arenas. And Beyonce doesn't sell like that.

[Damaris]

No one sells like that.

[Julian]

Yeah, well, not. Not even like that. Beyonce just doesn't sell well.

[Rory]

That's just because, I mean, stadiums are only so big. Like, if they make the triple stadium, I'm sure Taylor could sell it out. There's just only so many stadiums. That's why.

[Damaris]

That's why you do five nights there. Really lock in.

[Mal]

Nights in a stadium.

[Rory]

While we're on the.

[Mal]

How do you sleep at night knowing, yo, listen, there's 130, 000 people coming to see you tomorrow. All week, all week, every night, different people.

[Rory]

Imagine being the reason for like, actual traffic, like real life traffic. Like, you're going to ruin the city's entire infrastructure because you're there.

[Mal]

Not. No. And now you're not going to ruin it. You. That people are going to eat business. Businesses are flourishing because you're in town.

[Rory]

It open more highway.

[Julian]

They said that when. When Renaissance dropped with all the stuff that was bought and like the tickets and the. Yeah, they said Beyonce boosted the.

[Mal]

Yeah. But didn't she have the color silver trending Etsy.

[Damaris]

Etsy sales were like insane because people were buying custom metallic silver pieces.

[Rory]

Who owns silver, though? That's what I want to know.

[Mal]

They do, you know.

[Damaris]

You know, Dominicans while we're on.

[Rory]

Jay Electronica and my father, while we're on Taylor. I stand with Jason Kelsey. Man, anytime. Anytime a celebrity takes somebody's phone that's harassing them and smashes it on the ground, I stand with you.

[Mal]

Why? Why do people want to try their luck with somebody that was like a professional football player?

[Rory]

And why. Why do you want to play victim after you are harassing someone with a phone and then they react. I've never understood that paparazzi's fans like, no, why would you touch my camera? Since you're putting it in my face and I'm asking you not to.

[Mal]

They're going to say, he, he hates trans people now because he snatched the phone and this person is, you know, probably was there with somebody that's. They're going to.

[Rory]

Wait, where did you go with that?

[Mal]

This is what happens when you do shit like this. They turn into something.

[Rory]

I understand that the fan was calling his brother the F word. That's not fuck. And then he said it in response to him. Like, who is the F now?

[Mal]

Now?

[Rory]

Which I think is. Okay, like you're.

[Mal]

But no, but he was quoting him. No, no, but now he's.

[Rory]

But that word isn't connected to.

[Mal]

He's going to get of community service now because Jason do it with. Yeah, they got to do it together.

[Rory]

They can do a podcast.

[Mal]

Exactly.

[Damaris]

I love this moment.

[Mal]

Do the podcast outside.

[Damaris]

From what I've seen, though, mall to kind of counter what you said, I've seen nothing but support online. It's like, yeah, like this kid was being a dick. He used the. The slur. He said to him back in his face. Like, people are like, yes, he said a word that we deem no longer cool. The Internet has agreed, even though they're trying to bring it back. Back. We're working on it.

[Mal]

Such a great.

[Damaris]

But he, like, he didn't do anything. He didn't step out of what was already established. He just matched the guy with his.

[Rory]

Own insult and did quite the opposite. The restraint he had when that kid put his hands on him. Jason Kelsey would. The fact that he just had restraint there. I think he deserves some type of. Some type of. He deserves, like some little punk. He deserves a college student pushed him.

[Mal]

Yeah, he deserves a purple Penn State.

[Damaris]

Penn State.

[Mal]

You don't like Penn State?

[Damaris]

No, this.

[Mal]

This.

[Damaris]

This is them. Like, they're just. This is the biggest.

[Mal]

That's all it is.

[Damaris]

This is a fan base. Historically, they've been an awful fan base.

[Rory]

They have a weird coaching staff.

[Mal]

Don't do that.

[Damaris]

Maybe that's why they're weird. Trauma.

[Rory]

What do you mean?

[Mal]

Don't do that. Just don't do that. We rest in peace, that's all.

[Rory]

No, I mean, not. Not talk about. Oh, the head coach.

[Mal]

Oh, okay.

[Rory]

Some of the people that he hired.

[Mal]

Oh, okay.

[Damaris]

What was that guy's name?

[Rory]

Who cares?

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Rest in this.

[Damaris]

Sandusky.

[Rory]

No. Did Sandusky die?

[Damaris]

I don't know. I mean, Joe Pa did, but he was like a thousand years old.

[Rory]

That was a weird time. All right, well, speaking of trauma, how was Envy's Halloween?

[Julian]

All right. Rory? Okay.

[Mal]

Well, no, I was actually interested to talk to you about this, being that you have a daughter as well. I wanted to hear your opinions on. So DJ Envy posted a video. His family, they. They, I guess cosplayed as little Kim in the Crush on you video. They kind of remade that whole thing. So the Internet saw the interview's daughter, who was a very young girl. They had her cosplaying as little Kim. Obviously, we know in the crushing you video, little Kim wore some things that were not child appropriate. You know, women are supposed to dress like that. So the Internet was kind of killing Envy.

[Rory]

Inappropriate lyrics as well.

[Mal]

Inappropriate lyrics, content, whatever. So Envy put this video up, and people were like, yo, how could you let your daughter dress like that? You know, these lyrics and just this aesthetics is not, you know, it's just too grown for a little girl to be dressing like this. So being that you have a daughter, I was interested to hear people that have kids. I want to hear their opinion on this.

[Rory]

I didn't want to talk to you guys about this because I figured you guys would call me weird. I'm overreacting. I'm projecting of my past. I'm a new father. This is completely fine.

[Mal]

Nah, I'm gonna say all of that.

[Rory]

This is all. This is all great. I was scared to even talk about this because I thought I'd be shamed by you guys for having an issue with it.

[Mal]

No, I'm gonna shame you after you.

[Rory]

Say how you and I'm not here to talk about anyone's children. This is not about Envy's kids whatsoever. I don't want to talk about anyone's kids, nor even judge people for their parent decisions. Yeah, I think this was an awful decision, though.

[Mal]

Okay.

[Rory]

Not judging you. Why do you have your daughter dressed that way, rapping those lyrics? I don't think it's cute. I think it's weird. I think putting it on the Internet is even fucking crazier. Just for the safety of everyone.

[Mal]

Right.

[Rory]

I think it's a very strange time. I'm not saying they had the intentions of doing what the result may be.

[Mal]

Right.

[Rory]

But I thought it was odd. And then to double down and post the Aaliyah. AJ Nothing. Well, not AJ Nothing but a number. Rock the boat was it the next day, I thought was even weirder to double down on. Wait, people can parent their kids the way they want to. It's not my business, but it was on the Internet, and Envy talks about everyone else on his platform, so I think it's okay to talk about him on our platform. Yeah, I thought it was a very odd choice.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

I thought of all the things that you could do on Halloween with the amazing production budget that they had.

[Mal]

Yeah, it was definitely inappropriate, for sure. Not saying that Envy, you know, he. They probably went into it just wanting to have fun and things like that. And then obviously, once you put it on a public platform, on social media, you let people then voice their opinions, and people were kind of like, yo, this is weird. This is crazy. You shouldn't have done this. So, yeah, it's inappropriate. I'll say that. Don't think that envy, you know, is weird or is a bad parent. I've seen people saying that. I'm not putting all of that on it. I just think that was inappropriate for. For a little kid, that's all.

[Rory]

Just think there was a lot of time when putting that together to, like, have some conversations.

[Mal]

Somebody should have been like, yo, I just did.

[Julian]

We listen to this Somebody. Somebody with a brain cell. And I feel this is the thing. I've seen kids dress up as little Kim before. There's a way to do it and make it age appropriate. It was the. Her rapping the lip. You didn't need to do the music video. She didn't need to be rapping those lyrics. That's number one. And that red outfit that she had on with the cuts in it and stuff like that was completely, astronomically insane. Lil Kim has 17 different outfits on. You could have did every single one but that one. All the fur coats, all the wigs. I think her with the fur coats and the wigs is cute. If you want to take pictures where she's covered up, it's just the fur coat. It's just the wigs. I think that that is cute. And that could have been appropriate. That would have been fine. Even, like, you know, because I'm sure she did want to do this. You can tell that she's super into it, but you just have to draw a line as a parent. Like, even him calling Kim. I thought that was cut. Him calling Kim and Kim, like, oh, my God, that's so cute. Like, that's a kid's dream. You should have left it there. There shouldn't have been. It should have never hit the Internet. And it shouldn't have been a whole music video production.

[Rory]

And of course, I'm sure his daughter has no idea what those lyrics even mean that she's rapping, which makes it even crazier to me as far as who was making the decision to do that entire thing. And then after seeing, you know, not that what you do with your family, everyone's opinion on that, that should define your next action. But to then double down and post the Aaliyah video, which also to me is inappropriate lyrics and obviously has some underlying underage, inappropriate things going on at that Time. Regardless, it just made it even crazier. And I think everyone has a right to feel upset about putting a child on the Internet like that.

[Mal]

That.

[Rory]

I don't think it's that crazy to.

[Mal]

Feel you gotta dress your daughter up as Taylor Swift. White face backlash.

[Damaris]

The music video looked nice, though.

[Mal]

White face.

[Damaris]

The music video looked nice, though. And the home is beautiful. Whatever happened to that home thing that he got caught up in?

[Julian]

Yeah, the home is beautiful.

[Rory]

That was one of the cribs.

[Mal]

So what, you in a wire?

[Damaris]

I'm just curious. We talked about that for quite a bit. That was an extensive conversation that we've had on this podcast, and it seemed to just gone away.

[Julian]

Have you guys ever dressed up as someone you probably shouldn't have dressed up as? Or Prodigy thing?

[Rory]

Happy birthday, by the way.

[Mal]

Happy birthday, P. Sure.

[Rory]

Birthday would have been 50 years old. Legend. Love you. Yeah, I dressed up as Prodigy, and they said it was blackface, even though I didn't have any black face.

[Julian]

Okay, okay.

[Mal]

Why you ain't never dressed up as. As, like, snow.

[Rory]

Wait, like snow? Like Toronto? Like.

[Mal]

Like the reggae artist? Yeah, why you ain't never dressed up like him?

[Rory]

How would I go about that costume? Like, what was his look?

[Mal]

The same way you went about the Prodigy costume.

[Rory]

Just throwing some glasses.

[Julian]

Yeah, why the fuck you keep dressing.

[Rory]

And just run around saying informer?

[Mal]

I'm just saying you dressed up as Run dmc, Prodigy, Michael Jackson.

[Rory]

Oh, I see where you're going. Like, why didn't I go with the white? Yeah, why go. Why take your culture?

[Mal]

Why not the Beatles?

[Rory]

Yeah, that's true.

[Mal]

You never wanted to be like. Like, Sir Paul McCartney. You never dressed up as him following.

[Rory]

I would have been like John Lennon. I just never really.

[Mal]

No, don't tell me what you would have been like. You still have time. Halloween just passed. You could have been John Legend last week and. No, not John Legend. Damn. What?

[Rory]

No, I'm gonna be John Legend, though.

[Mal]

This is a funny joke, but I'm not. I'm not leaving John Legend alone because y'all think I hate John Legend. I'm not doing that.

[Rory]

I know the joke. That's pretty funny.

[Julian]

I asked because I just realized that I dressed up as Left Eye from TLC one time in middle school, and I had, like, the condoms. Like, remember how TLC used to do the safe sex Sex condoms all over them. I had the, like, condoms.

[Rory]

Where'd you get them?

[Julian]

Stapled to my outfit.

[Mal]

I don't know.

[Julian]

I went and got them from, like, an older cousin.

[Mal]

Now we gotta have the same talk with your dad that we have.

[Julian]

You know, the crazy.

[Mal]

Yeah, that was inappropriate.

[Julian]

I was a really independent kid. My parents didn't know that I was dressing up for Halloween. I just, like, got myself dressed and went, like, to school. Because I took the bus to school and everything.

[Damaris]

Like, coming up on a sleeve of condoms.

[Julian]

One of my older cousins and I had wait.

[Rory]

But no teacher. Like, the moment she walked in, said, like. Like, what the fuck?

[Julian]

No, actually, not. Like, I'm thinking back on it. No, I didn't get in trouble. Nobody called anybody or anything. Like, I just thought about that. Like, damn. I think my parents saw me after school and was just like, what the fuck is that little girl doing? And like, that was it. But I'm thinking back, like, damn, I'm over here being Judgy Judy. And I did some. That was age inappropriate, but I didn't think so at the time.

[Rory]

7Th grade teacher found Sudafed on me and called my mother. If I would have showed up with condoms stapled to my shirt. I'm going home.

[Julian]

Well, to be fair, I went to. I did go to, like, a school that was majority black. So they knew who I was the moment they saw me. Like, I had, like, the backwards hat. Like, I had the big jersey on. I had the, like, condom statement.

[Rory]

White people know what Sudafed was, but it's still an issue.

[Julian]

Yeah, I don't know.

[Mal]

They called my mom when I came to school with $300 cash one time.

[Julian]

Well, I would call your mom, too.

[Damaris]

What were you.

[Mal]

Mind your business. You don't know what I'm doing on the block.

[Rory]

Think about the amount of condoms you could buy with $300.

[Mal]

Yeah, mind your business, lady.

[Julian]

Mind your business.

[Mal]

Calling my mother for it.

[Rory]

That's wild. To me. If you guys are Charlemagne and the rest of the Breakfast Club crew.

[Mal]

Charlemagne, give Envy Dunkey today.

[Rory]

I didn't listen this morning.

[Mal]

But for letting his daughter dress up like that.

[Rory]

Mo, if I did that, I would expect you to come on this platform and press me about it.

[Julian]

Yeah, of course, the platform. You would have got a phone call for sure.

[Rory]

But even publicly, I feel like that's something that your co hosts are.

[Mal]

So Charlemagne didn't give him title today?

[Rory]

I don't know. I didn't listen.

[Julian]

I don't know.

[Mal]

Okay, all right. That's what's up.

[Rory]

But to ignore that, like, and not even bring it up on the show is crazy to me. And then. And then envy afterwards posted. I think it was on Sunday. What are y'all fake mad about today.

[Julian]

Or something to not understand why people are mad.

[Rory]

How tone deaf are you of this entire thing? Yes, people were upset. There's a lot of predators on the Internet. It's a huge, huge issue that we have right now. Now, yes, people are upset that a young girl was dressed inappropriately in 4K in a full production and put on the Internet. Yes, people are upset about that. I don't think that's crazy to think.

[Mal]

Okay.

[Rory]

I don't think people are fake outraged about that. I think that's actually something that people.

[Mal]

Would be upset about for sure.

[Rory]

But, you know, again, not, not, not here to judge his parenting style. Envy. Do what you want.

[Damaris]

Do you want to judge the consequences of it? Do you want to judge Cam Newton's relationship style?

[Mal]

What Cam doing now?

[Julian]

Man wiling. Living the life wild.

[Mal]

So just for living the dream, just.

[Julian]

For backstory, Cam Newton is in a relationship with comedian. Watch Jazzy. They were previously. They've went viral. Their relationship has gone viral twice. The first time, Jazzy did an interview with Sham. Boodram. Shout out to Shan, our previous label mate.

[Mal]

She who.

[Julian]

She's our previous label mate.

[Mal]

I don't. Who. I.

[Julian]

She's on. She was on serious with us. Shan. Boodram. Boodram, I think.

[Mal]

Did we meet her?

[Rory]

Yes. We all kicked it in la.

[Julian]

We were up for the award.

[Mal]

Sounded familiar.

[Julian]

That's why I was like, so when.

[Rory]

Yeah, she's cool.

[Julian]

When she did. When Jazzy did her podcast, she was talking about how she. She does everything for Cam. Like, I. I think she said, like, she packs his lunch, she watches, like, rubs his back. Like, she does everything to make sure he's comfortable, nurtures him. She mothers him. Almost. She got attacked for that because it was just kind of like, girl, what? Like, she went really in depth with it.

[Rory]

Girl, what? You support your partner.

[Julian]

It wasn't just. It wasn't just.

[Rory]

Yo, you make sure your man is comfortable.

[Mal]

You rub your man back at night.

[Rory]

Wait, you packed his lunch to never be.

[Julian]

She was just like. She was like. I can tell when he's asleep because I, like, listen to his breathing. I make sure he's breathing right. Yes, I remember that right.

[Mal]

She makes sure he's breathing right. Wait, hold up.

[Damaris]

She anesthesiologist.

[Rory]

He was okay. No, she got killed for. For no reason. And this is what's. This is what's wrong with this generation.

[Mal]

I. With Jazz. Did she say she makes sure he's breathing?

[Julian]

It was something around me.

[Mal]

Don't do that because you're saying that. And, you know, I'm a real.

[Julian]

But it was something along those lines.

[Rory]

I know what it was. She was rubbing his back to go to sleep like she does, as a good partner would do. And she knows the difference with his breathing when he goes to sleep. Like, she'll rub his back until he goes to sleep.

[Mal]

Oh, she knows he's.

[Rory]

And she knows when he's asleep. Yeah, just like the vibration.

[Mal]

Okay, I thought you said he. She's, like, listening to his breathing to make sure he. Good. Must be like. So you're not gonna sleep. You just go sit up and just listen to me breathe all night and.

[Julian]

Just make sure I've done it.

[Mal]

You listen to a breathe all night.

[Rory]

Did he have, like, a bad asthma.

[Mal]

Problem or he has sleep apnea like you? Why would you listen to him breathe all night?

[Julian]

He was stressed that day, so I was worried about him. So I did watch him breathe for about.

[Rory]

He knows my breathing with my six paralysis.

[Damaris]

What the. The.

[Rory]

What's. What's wrong with that?

[Mal]

Nothing, man.

[Damaris]

Well, I'm on your side.

[Mal]

Just let love win, man. Just let love win. So go ahead.

[Julian]

That was the first time their relationship went viral.

[Mal]

Nothing.

[Julian]

The second time their relationship went viral is when. Remember when Cam was talking to the doctor? Remember that? All those clips are going viral about two months ago.

[Mal]

Oh, the therapist.

[Julian]

Yes. And one of them said that he was, like, looking for his wife or whatever, and she was talking to him about creating broken families and stuff like that, and people were on him, like, wait, isn't he with Jazzy? Why is he talking about he's looking for his wife?

[Rory]

Life.

[Julian]

So this is the third clip and that they are now going viral for.

[Mal]

You are not gonna tell me.

[Rory]

You up here, one person.

[Mal]

It's not gonna happen. No, no, no, no. See, you're trying to deflect back to me. No.

[Rory]

You know, some is coming up, but I got respect for you.

[Mal]

No.

[Damaris]

Here.

[Rory]

But you didn't answer that for a reason.

[Mal]

No. Understand this.

[Rory]

You didn't ask me for a reason.

[Mal]

I'm gonna answer mine.

[Rory]

Dress like Willy Wonka. At the same time, I want you.

[Mal]

To answer mine too.

[Rory]

I will answer it, brother, and I promise you, I won't bullshit with you.

[Mal]

Okay?

[Damaris]

Who dresses these guys?

[Mal]

How long you talking about?

[Julian]

What?

[Rory]

You mean one person? If we say teenager, how long are we talking about?

[Mal]

As long as I've been with Jazz, Jazz has not been the only person that I've had sex with.

[Rory]

I don't know your situation, but.

[Mal]

But I'm Getting personal, right? I don't know. Since you wanted.

[Rory]

Why is it anytime men talk about cheating, they fold their legs like that? Hov was with the New York Times, and they were asking him direct questions about lemonade and 444. And he was like, just, you know, we just had a disagreement at the time. Like, we heard the lyrics. He was fucking other bitches.

[Mal]

That's when your nuts shrivel up. You forget they there.

[Julian]

So in one of these clips. In one of these clips, he said, I. I don't know where it is. I don't know what part of the interview. But in one of these clips, the part that went viral was that he said that when he cheats, him and Jazz go on a walk, and she'll ask him, like, what can I do to make sure that this doesn't happen again?

[Damaris]

Oh, God.

[Mal]

Interesting.

[Rory]

I'm glad she's taking some accountability.

[Mal]

So wait, so she gets cheated on, her man tells her he cheated. Okay, so there's something honorable there. He's being honest, right?

[Damaris]

All right.

[Mal]

I'm just saying he's being honest. He's not lying about it. He's being honest. Let's just. Let's try to, you know, dissect this.

[Damaris]

One step at a time.

[Mal]

Yeah. So then she says, okay, what can I do? Which means she's automatically assuming that he's cheating because she's not doing something. So she says, what do. What can I do so that this doesn't happen again?

[Rory]

There's a reason he's dressed that way.

[Mal]

This pimping. I know pimping when I see pimping.

[Rory]

Look at the fit.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

And he's sitting with Corey Holcomb, who's one of the greatest comedians ever who only preaches this type of. Like, y'all have to realize who he's talking to as well. Cam Newton's. Cam Newton, but Corey Holcomb, Corey sitting up there.

[Mal]

Cause he not gonna let Cam just. You ain't gonna bullshit me with the. With the words. And, you know, you got the big ass turkey leg, feather in your hat. I don't care about none of that. Answer the question. And so Cam answered it. But then Jazz, she responded. She said, child, here come to. Just checking on you DMs. I'm fine. Trust me. I know who and what my nigga is. Ain't no secrets or surprises. He can talk to me about anything. Then she goes and says, why not just be single if you're gonna cheat? I feel you. However, men just be wanting to fuck once they do that. They're back to temporarily thinking straight. It's real ghetto out here. I get it. I don't blame y'all for wanting. Wanting to be single. But if you spend enough time talking to men about this topic, you'll see that it's not as shocking as it may seem.

[Rory]

Case closed.

[Julian]

I'm here to stick up for Jazzy.

[Damaris]

I feel her.

[Julian]

I'm here to stick up for Jazzy.

[Mal]

Explain.

[Julian]

I'm here to stick up for Jazzy with this. With this. That other going on a walking. What can I do to help you? Not other that I. I'm. I'm not in her corner.

[Mal]

So you're stupid.

[Rory]

I don't even like that he. That she was packing his lunch or rubbing his back.

[Julian]

I never said I didn't like that. I never said that I didn't like that.

[Rory]

She probably cuts the crust off the sandwich.

[Damaris]

Oh, that's nice.

[Mal]

Nice. Oh, man.

[Rory]

Oh, I could tell.

[Mal]

Attention to detail.

[Julian]

All I'm saying is when. With this where she says, I know who I'm with. I know what he does. And more. If you have a conversation with these. More of them men are out here cheating, bro. They are. You can find them. You can find a man that doesn't cheat. But we not.

[Mal]

I'm just saying everybody. Yeah, people cheat. We got that part.

[Julian]

Find a man that doesn't cheat. And if you find that pot of gold, sit on it and. And don't move. Right? But a lot of these niggas are out here cheating, especially professional fucking basketball player. I mean, football players. So, yeah, she likes it there.

[Damaris]

She.

[Julian]

Nobody should be checking on her and see if she's okay. She fucking likes it there. She's gonna stay and do what she has to do. She like it there. So I. I don't understand why everybody's like, girl, you need to leave him. She likes it there.

[Damaris]

And it sounds like to Damaris's point, in most cases when men cheat, there is no guilt or remorse for it. But he's at least willing to get Is not guilty.

[Julian]

Shut up, Julian.

[Damaris]

I'm just saying. He's saying that they walk on the beach, go. If there's toes in sand, they talk about it. I'm sure this is why. I'm sure she gets a nice bag or two from it. Like I'm saying his guilt is still there on some level that I'm sure she's getting more out of it than.

[Rory]

Different strokes for different folks. If this is what makes their relationship happy. Who the are we?

[Julian]

Yeah, that's it's none of our business. That's my point. That's why I said I'm still.

[Rory]

Well, I mean, it's our business now, because he totally sat with Corey Holcomb and discussed it.

[Mal]

He has a podcast and granny.

[Rory]

Even though he was a professional athlete now he is a media personality. So things shift. You could have an arrangement with your wife, but if you don't have to talk about it all the time, no one's gonna know. And who gives a. Now everyone's in their business, and I think maybe something could change now that the world knows about it. But if that's their. That's their.

[Julian]

But nobody.

[Rory]

They're not the only couple, pro athlete or not, that has arrangements like this.

[Julian]

Yeah, it's very. It's very common. Nobody wants to talk about how common it is, but it's very common. But second of all, he also doesn't. He has to stop fucking embarrassing her like that. That is my. Stop talking. Stop talking.

[Rory]

What if she's. What if she's not embarrassed? What if that wasn't a forced IG post and she already knows what type of time it is? You're right. And also, yes, cheating is wrong, especially if you're lying about it. But if you find the gem that you said, the guy that doesn't cheat, what other weird shit does he have? Stuff. Yeah, like, that's not the end all, be all relationship.

[Julian]

I mean, there are just some normal men who don't cheat.

[Rory]

No, I. I completely agree with you.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Rory]

I'm saying. But just because he doesn't cheat doesn't mean that he's like, why the you.

[Julian]

Looking at me like, what? What?

[Mal]

Cause we're in the same room. I can't look at you.

[Damaris]

How many. You know, I just looked at you.

[Mal]

Why are you.

[Julian]

Rory right there? Rory's weird. He's not normal. I'm sorry, okay.

[Rory]

I thought she was saying something else.

[Julian]

No, no, you don't cheat. You're just not normal.

[Rory]

Yeah, no, I'm a weirdo.

[Julian]

Yeah, bad example.

[Mal]

It.

[Julian]

On my own point.

[Rory]

I don't like the laughter here. Could have laughed a long time ago. The laughter has to stop now.

[Mal]

Wait, no. Can we. Can we put something in front of you?

[Rory]

Do I have to put a specific hat on for you to believe me? Let me fold my leg.

[Mal]

I just want to put.

[Rory]

Oh, God, how do they do that?

[Mal]

I just wanted for something for the. Julie.

[Rory]

No, no, let's do throttle.

[Mal]

Look at.

[Rory]

Why. Why are you.

[Julian]

Why the jeans so tight?

[Rory]

I. I bought these before My dad bought. And now.

[Julian]

Oh, my God. Across your legs. The seam almost popped.

[Rory]

I think I really just popped a nut.

[Mal]

Just doing.

[Rory]

Oh, that really hurt.

[Mal]

Wow, that's funny, man.

[Damaris]

Shout out to Cam, man.

[Mal]

I'm shout out to Jazz, man. Jazz, we need more like you just understanding.

[Rory]

Let. All right. We can make it a pro athlete.

[Julian]

He asleep after. He just another crazy. I'm not going home with you.

[Mal]

She gonna kill camp. We gonna have another Steve McNair.

[Rory]

That's why he wears the tall hat. If she shoots for his head, it might go through the hat.

[Mal]

Y'all keep playing.

[Damaris]

She's Jazz trying to be.

[Mal]

She trying to be Zen. She trying to be calm. Everybody get to their breaking point.

[Rory]

I'm telling you, we can make it a pro athlete thing. I'm sure this is a pretty normal arrangement with most of the league. Yeah.

[Mal]

When you make 100 million, they get real. They understanding. 100 million that breeds. Understand women understand. When you got 100 million, oh, they'll sit down. They'll. You right.

[Julian]

You just under so much pressure.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

It's like. I get it. Y'all went 2 0, and then you lost three straight. I get it. You wanted some pussy. Like. I understand.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Mal]

You signed that 100 million guaranteed. Oh, man. They gonna understand.

[Rory]

I just think it's funny that someone that makes 100 million and everywhere he goes is catered, has to pack a lunch.

[Mal]

She just wanted to let you know she putting that ambient in there, but that to sleep.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

You're eat the sandwich and go to sleep. You ain't gonna go the night going to sleep. Hey, I keep playing with jazz. I'm telling you, that type of patience and understanding, it's a. It's a crazy woman. She don't need his location.

[Julian]

The on tv.

[Mal]

She know he coming back eventually.

[Julian]

Oh, Lord.

[Mal]

Right? No matter what he was doing on the road, he coming back home. I'll kill that. Next Sunday, he'll be back. That's. I'm telling y'all think I'm joking. All right, keep watching.

[Rory]

You don't think this is a healthy relationship?

[Mal]

No.

[Rory]

No lies. Everyone's putting everything.

[Mal]

That sounds good, but that's not healthy.

[Julian]

It gets. I'm sure it's gonna get old after.

[Damaris]

And also, just because you're not lying doesn't mean it excuses. Yeah.

[Mal]

That means it's healthy because I'm telling.

[Damaris]

You, I just nut it on your face. I need cream pie.

[Rory]

I don't think gets all that. I think because now it's put out to the world. I think she was doing some secret code with the Are you okay? Dms. I think her family reached out that didn't know that that's where things get odd when your parents are like, yo, what the.

[Mal]

Probably girl she follows on Instagram.

[Rory]

And I'm not saying that didn't happen.

[Julian]

But I think probably.

[Rory]

I think now that it's. It's out there. I'm sure her family didn't know that.

[Mal]

There ain't no Cam cheating. That's why she said she know who.

[Rory]

She know Kim, her grandmother didn't know that.

[Mal]

That granny was a hoe too. She know. What are we talking about here? 100 million. Yeah. He gonna get some side the.

[Julian]

Is he still playing?

[Damaris]

No, no, he's been retired also.

[Rory]

Wait, that's why I said he's media personality now.

[Julian]

He's retired.

[Mal]

Yeah. That, that. That money's still in the bank though.

[Julian]

Sure.

[Rory]

I think his content deal might be more.

[Mal]

Yeah. Oh, he's still getting.

[Rory]

And Cam is not old like, like. No, he's not retired like 70 years old.

[Julian]

So what I mean. Okay, so why. The reason why I think retired is different is because retired like, you ain't like on the road, homie.

[Mal]

Yeah. You ain't got to be away from home.

[Julian]

You ain't got. You ain't gotta be like, it ain't. You go to work like 9 to 5. People like, I don't. Where are you finding. Because now you're searching for.

[Rory]

Football is not on the road like NBA players or MLB players.

[Mal]

It's once a week.

[Rory]

It's once a week.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Rory]

And you're there the day before you leave that night. Like it's way different than NBA players are gone for months at a time. So I'm sure his routine isn't that different. And now that he's got content, he got, you know, he got meetings.

[Mal]

Yeah, meetings.

[Rory]

You know, you gotta go to la. Like, gotta go. That's where. That's where the meetings are. Hate that place.

[Mal]

And nothing is remote anymore. Everybody's back in the office. So it's like I gotta go to. I gotta fly out to la. I gotta actually go to the office.

[Rory]

And like so many people then move to Florida. Yeah.

[Damaris]

Black out my schedule from 7pm to midnight.

[Rory]

Now I gotta go to Miami for meetings.

[Mal]

No, I go like barstool.

[Rory]

Everyone's going to Miami. So that's sports.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Gotta be there.

[Mal]

Pray for Cam, man.

[Rory]

Austin, Texas. Like, I have to stop in Houston.

[Mal]

What a life.

[Rory]

There was a layover.

[Damaris]

Yeah. Kamma did cleaned up during his playing days, he did sign a she rubbed that to sleep. 103 million dollar contract in 2015.

[Mal]

I'm just saying.

[Julian]

And let it be known we're only laughing about this because she says she's okay with it. If she was sad and upset, we would not be laughing. Laughing?

[Mal]

Who?

[Damaris]

Who?

[Julian]

Yeah, Well, I. Y'all, I would not be laughing.

[Mal]

Yes, you would.

[Julian]

No, I wouldn't. I don't laugh at women when they're in pain. I'm not laughing at her either.

[Mal]

She's a comedian. Yeah, you can laugh at her. It's actually what she would prefer, actually.

[Rory]

Wait, so you're saying her IG story was just a bit. And she really is gonna kill him.

[Mal]

Jazz will be fine. She got that baby. She still look good. Cam gonna be the one crying, I'm telling you. You know how that end?

[Julian]

Because I feel like if you get your back rubbed every night, like, and if somebody leave you and they not rubbing, they're rubbing your back no more. Like, how do you.

[Mal]

You know, how you sleep?

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Rory]

I think Cam Newton can find a woman to rub his back, but she.

[Julian]

Ain'T gonna rub it the same. She ain't gonna know when to stop because he feel me.

[Mal]

That is the craziest.

[Rory]

Send the new girl all the Jazz IG clips and be like, yo, these are the things that I like.

[Mal]

No, he gonna listen, man. That's. Cam is pimping. He gonna have a new girl come in and. And. And Jazz gonna give her all the playbook. This is what he like.

[Julian]

This is what he like the nanny.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Off boarding. Like.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Put in her two weeks and train the next one.

[Mal]

Some people okay, living like that. Like, I think we just gotta. We don't understand it because we've never had that. But some people are perfectly fine living like that. Like, yeah, I'm just laughing because Cam sitting up there, trying to sound so intellectual about cheating. Cheating. It's like, just say you cheating. Don't cross your legs and wear the big fedora. You still cheating. You took. Did you keep that on when you was that girl? That's what I would have asked if I was Cory.

[Rory]

That's just. That's just. For him and Jazz. That's their thing.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

You can't do your thing with the other girl.

[Julian]

Don't me with a brunch hat on.

[Mal]

You.

[Julian]

You over there being raiden. Don't. Don't me.

[Mal]

You let a hit with a brunch hat on.

[Julian]

I never. My life and the turtleneck. You see the. I date it was naked.

[Mal]

He just took his jeans off.

[Rory]

He kept the way people would keep their tims on. And what if he kept his brunch boots?

[Mal]

Hey, A Keeping the turtleneck with the.

[Julian]

Gold with the singular gold chain like.

[Rory]

A death row cover.

[Mal]

I know Damaris did some sick back in her younger days, man. I know she did.

[Julian]

I've never a damas why I never.

[Mal]

Saw you at Henny Palooza. I'm so mad. I never saw her at any of the Henny Palooza.

[Rory]

She was. She was there.

[Mal]

I know she was, but I don't remember.

[Rory]

She was fighting.

[Julian]

That's why I fought one time.

[Rory]

I know, but that was Coney Island.

[Damaris]

Yeah, you scrapped.

[Mal]

Oh, that was you at Coney island going crazy. I thought a bull had got stage.

[Julian]

No, I wasn't. Rory wouldn't let me backstage that year. That's why I got all that.

[Damaris]

Well, I mean, you got in a fight.

[Rory]

Do we have voicemails?

[Damaris]

We do. You've got mail Reminder.

[Mal]

We do.

[Damaris]

Every Patreon has access to voicemail. Thank you, mall. Fuck me. I'll just play the damn thing.

[Rory]

Subscribe to Patreon and you can send a voicemail in and we give you advice. Julian. Hope y'all doing well calling today because.

[Mal]

I used to hook up with this girl in Providence, and she was telling.

[Rory]

Me that Rory ended up visiting her.

[Mal]

School at one point.

[Rory]

Okay.

[Mal]

With his frat brothers.

[Rory]

And they were all at a party.

[Mal]

Here come the bullshit.

[Rory]

And the girls were shout out to all my new set, Johnson and Wales.

[Mal]

And Rory immediately paused, looked at the scene, and was like, do y'all know they're talking about you?

[Damaris]

He said the chorus of Crew Love.

[Rory]

Wait, okay, so I assume this was a Johnson and Wales party in Providence. Crew Love came on, and I did what you told all the time until.

[Julian]

The girls, like, do you know they're talking about.

[Rory]

I've never DJed a party.

[Julian]

Well, not when you might have talked over the music and was like, you know they're talking about you, right?

[Damaris]

You know how you like to kill a moment.

[Rory]

I'm calling Cap.

[Julian]

You calling Cap.

[Mal]

No, you're a captain.

[Rory]

But that's not. I wouldn't do that. But keep playing now.

[Julian]

Yeah, that's kind of.

[Rory]

This is. This. Yeah, that's not.

[Mal]

He's an.

[Julian]

Not like women.

[Rory]

I was in college. I was actually probably kinder. This world has made me a worse person.

[Damaris]

All right, well, let's hear the rest of it.

[Mal]

So my question for y'all is, when was the last time that you were.

[Rory]

In A situation where you looked.

[Mal]

You had to look at somebody and realize, like, do you hear the words.

[Rory]

That are coming out of your mouth? Like.

[Mal]

Like, you're either being a hypocrite or.

[Rory]

You know, you're saying something that's like, the antithesis of like, of.

[Mal]

Of you or.

[Rory]

Or your situation.

[Mal]

So let me know.

[Rory]

Hope you all have a good one. All right, first of all, that question has nothing to do with the first part. I feel like now he just. He wanted to get that story off and then ask a question.

[Julian]

Exposure.

[Mal]

Yeah. He was saying some shit. You did.

[Rory]

I did not. There's never been a time where I was playing Crew Love at a party and stopped it and said, do you know the weekends talking about you?

[Mal]

I don't think he said you stopped the music. I think he. Whatever girl you were around at the time. I think that's what he said. Like, you turned and looked and was like, do you know that there.

[Rory]

I wouldn't. I would never do that. Like, there's a lot of things I'm sure, like, certain I would never do. I would never look at a bunch of girls and say, I think you would. He's talking about you with the crew Love. Like, I'm not even, like, bold enough. I'm too insecure to even say some like that. Like, I'm not even that ill. You would. I probably ask, like, do you guys want a drink or, like, use the bathroom? No. You would say, can I get your coat?

[Mal]

You say, he shouldn't be talking to you like that.

[Rory]

Yeah, no, I'm like, this is not. I'm not Cam Newton. I'm the complete opposite of this person.

[Mal]

All right, fam. We call Cap. That story was.

[Rory]

And I think he was trying to fish to see if. If we're Eskimo brothers. That's what I think. It was you a chick that brought me up, and now you insecure Roy.

[Mal]

Beat your girl and left you a voicemail.

[Rory]

I never any girls at Johnson.

[Julian]

You can't leave a. A voicemail. If he.

[Damaris]

Your queen crazy in Providence.

[Rory]

Johnson and Wales is the school. He's talking about. About where the Cap is. Are.

[Mal]

Brush your legs. Go ahead and tell the story. Go ahead. Now what happen?

[Rory]

I have never.

[Mal]

I've never had sex with a woman at Johnson and Wells.

[Rory]

They didn't go to that school.

[Mal]

They were there, but they didn't attend the school.

[Rory]

But yeah, I'm calling Cap and what's his question?

[Julian]

Have you ever. Question is, have you ever been in the heat of the moment with somebody and they said something, and you were like, basically like, well, that's rich.

[Mal]

You're describing yourself.

[Rory]

Yeah, yeah, he said so.

[Damaris]

And like, if you caught.

[Rory]

The crew was loving me.

[Julian]

No, Rory, just leave that alone. Just answer the question.

[Rory]

I'm sure I've done that in my years of podcasting. I'm sure I've said a lot of things that I shouldn't have been.

[Julian]

No, that's not what. That was the question. The question was, stop laughing, Mom.

[Damaris]

Roy so stunted from the first half of this call.

[Mal]

He's so up. He tried to figure out, wait, what party was this? And when did I say that?

[Rory]

My mind is.

[Mal]

I know you. I know what you stuck on right now.

[Julian]

He at. Maybe Ma can answer. Have you ever been in a moment where some. Thank you.

[Mal]

Absolutely.

[Julian]

Somebody says something, and you were looking at them like, I know you ain't talking. Like, you're literally.

[Mal]

I think we've all.

[Rory]

Then I answered it accurately. I have been podcasting for so long, I am sure within the last month I've thought that about you guys. Abely and things that you guys have said for sure. And calling the kettle, I went, oh.

[Damaris]

This episode does happen. I'm not gonna say what part. I. I am.

[Rory]

Say it.

[Mal]

Yeah, I know.

[Rory]

Come on. See it.

[Damaris]

I love them all.

[Mal]

It just happened. Which part, Rory, we'll talk about it.

[Rory]

No, everyone crosses Julie the stupid because.

[Mal]

Why you. Why you brought that back up? Because it's a perfect fucking.

[Damaris]

It's exactly what we're talking about.

[Rory]

What did I say that you were like. You shouldn't be talking.

[Damaris]

Nothing, nothing, nothing.

[Mal]

Stop, Julius, stop.

[Rory]

I don't have rules with. With my. Y'all have rules. You can say whatever the you want about me. I don't care.

[Julian]

You know, if I knew what they was talking about, I would tell you. I don't give a. About your feelings. I don't know why with y'all, it's.

[Rory]

It's stipulations. We can't say certain things.

[Mal]

You can say whatever. What?

[Rory]

What?

[Mal]

This is another moment.

[Julian]

What the Are y'all laughing at?

[Mal]

Julian, stop, man. Go to the next voicemail, Dog, go to the next voicemail, please.

[Damaris]

Oh, my God.

[Rory]

Act like we don't have the edit button, Roy.

[Julian]

They make it funny.

[Damaris]

You all right?

[Mal]

Well, Julian, stop, man.

[Damaris]

Thank God for the edits. All right, here we go. Round two.

[Mal]

Hey, guys.

[Damaris]

My name is Drew. I'm from North Carolina.

[Mal]

And my question today has to deal.

[Damaris]

With, does my female co worker like me? Background of the situation is we work.

[Mal]

In a small company, very niche field.

[Damaris]

And I'm in the office maybe once.

[Mal]

Every week or two. After I became single for the first time in three years, she started asking if she, you know, participate. Some of my hobbies being I like to go shooting, go hunt. You know, I hunt bears, deer, things like that.

[Rory]

You hunt bears?

[Damaris]

And so this is RFK Casually saying.

[Rory]

I hunt bears is.

[Mal]

Yeah, hunt bear. If you're a hunter, you hunt anything.

[Rory]

Okay.

[Mal]

You know, I've just been a gentleman throughout it all, being very nice. But on one of my female co workers who I hang out with, her.

[Damaris]

Husband pretty often says that she's been flirting with me.

[Mal]

And I. I didn't believe it because.

[Damaris]

You know, I'm half black, went to hbcu.

[Mal]

I'm still very southern. But she's, you know, Wait, herself. What does that have to do with you not believing?

[Julian]

I think because shorty probably white.

[Damaris]

She's white. He's saying he's getting into it. She's very white and very southern.

[Rory]

But he hunts. He hunts bears. So I think that offsets the HBCU thing.

[Mal]

Yeah. Ain't hunting beers.

[Damaris]

That's fair.

[Julian]

My grandfather was a hunter and a. But, I mean, I get it.

[Mal]

That's real.

[Rory]

Didn't he discover Harlem Zoo?

[Mal]

What?

[Rory]

I'm serious. Her grandfather discovered Harlem.

[Julian]

Shut up. Play the voicemail, please.

[Damaris]

Killed all the bears and then took it over.

[Rory]

Yeah. Central park was much more north at that time.

[Damaris]

He brought it down to 101st Southern lady herself.

[Mal]

Things changed when I went on a company trip, and this lady's friend also works at a company, and she made some comments just about the situation that made me maybe open my eyes to maybe she is flirting with me. I don't really want to press too far forward just because I don't want.

[Damaris]

To be the creep in the office.

[Mal]

But I don't know if she does like me or where to go from here there. So any advice would be helpful. Thank you.

[Rory]

All right. So two people have come to him that he trusts and is saying, yo, she likes you. She's clearly flirting with you. He hasn't caught those vibes. So she hasn't done anything direct. If you're in the office once or twice a week, I think that's your window to say, hey, we don't see each other a lot. Let's. Let's hang out outside the office.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

And then you get the vibe. I mean, he's not being the work creek that's there every day. Hitting on a co worker. He's There once or twice every week or every two weeks. Yeah, take. I mean, put a 12 gauge in her hand and.

[Mal]

Yeah, take a. Take a hunting.

[Damaris]

Yeah. Bring her some bear pelt.

[Mal]

That's a cool date. Yeah, Take a girl, show some deer.

[Rory]

And Dick Cheney did the same thing with. With his side chicks.

[Mal]

Yeah. Take him hunting.

[Damaris]

What else could he give her?

[Rory]

Go hunt some rabbit or something.

[Damaris]

Granola.

[Rory]

But, yeah, ask her out. He never even mentioned if he thought she was, like, attractive or if he.

[Julian]

Yeah, he didn't say anything.

[Rory]

That was kind of odd. He just told us about his college career and, like, his big game.

[Damaris]

I think the assumption that he's kind of tiptoeing around is this girl's very white and not like, waspy white. Southern white. So he. I think he's more so surprised that she would even be into him.

[Mal]

He's afraid he's gonna get mixed.

[Rory]

Yeah, he's afraid that her father's gonna hunt him.

[Damaris]

Yeah, yeah, exactly.

[Julian]

Don't play that.

[Mal]

He's afraid he's gonna be a Paul. Paul.

[Damaris]

She goes, yeah. He takes her hunting and he gives her, you know, a gun and she whips out a noose. And then it's like. Yeah, you know, something just had to go there, huh?

[Julian]

Yeah, it just couldn't. Couldn't help yourself.

[Rory]

That felt a little too far. Yeah, well, I mean, she could be flirting to her dad. I don't know.

[Julian]

Well, yeah, if you like her, then ask her out. Like, don't, you know, stop being.

[Rory]

Because you don't.

[Julian]

If she don't like you, then you find out that she doesn't.

[Mal]

Being. He's scared that he gonna get lynched.

[Damaris]

Yeah, that's right.

[Mal]

Damn, this is the South. You can't just ask white women out on the date. Any half black, which is crazy. Like, he ain't even full. He half. He's scared.

[Rory]

He could do what Henry Hill did in Goodfellas. I heard you're half Jewish. Just the good side.

[Mal]

Yeah, yeah.

[Rory]

Yeah. You could just, you know, go all the way with it. Like, oh, I don't identify with my other side.

[Mal]

Just ask out, man.

[Rory]

But what if it works out and he wants to go to HBCU homecoming? And of course, you got to bring your girl, like, so she can meet everyone you went to school with.

[Mal]

It's white girls.

[Damaris]

She could be like one of those white girls that raps the little baby videos.

[Rory]

No, there's not.

[Damaris]

Not.

[Julian]

They ain't gonna put.

[Mal]

You don't think it's right.

[Julian]

HBCUs put a cross on her forehead.

[Mal]

Yeah, I think it's white girls at hbcu.

[Julian]

No, there are white girls. Yeah, this year it's white.

[Mal]

This the first year?

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Nah, man. It's white girls, bro.

[Julian]

You're white and in the divine nine, like you can.

[Rory]

Yeah, I didn't see any white girls. Pretty plain and silly. Yeah, I have all the evidence.

[Mal]

No, you sold them. You just weren't looking at them.

[Rory]

They weren't at Johnson and Wales. That wasn't the crew I was talking about.

[Mal]

I'm leaving it alone. I'm leaving it alone. This is me mature.

[Damaris]

I can't look at mall.

[Mal]

You what?

[Damaris]

I said I can't look at you because I'm just gonna.

[Mal]

Yeah, no, don't look at me. Julian, ask her out.

[Damaris]

It sounds like you got the good. The two good people on your. In your side. He said, though, the co worker, a girl that's also his co worker and husband. They said the vibes are there.

[Rory]

No, he just said some lady that works with him was the other reference, which was weird.

[Damaris]

That's good enough up.

[Rory]

I guess.

[Damaris]

So ask her out. Go get. What do they get in the South? Some whiskey, some drink.

[Rory]

I'm curious what state in the south it is, though, because that does change things. Like, there's a difference between North Carolina and Mississippi in this situation.

[Mal]

Huge difference.

[Rory]

So the south is not just the South. Across the board.

[Mal]

Yeah. You below the Mason Dixon.

[Rory]

Things change a bit.

[Mal]

It gets a little different down there.

[Rory]

Or. I mean, just go find a nice girl at homecoming.

[Mal]

Yeah, why not?

[Rory]

That's him.

[Julian]

No, he liked that white lady.

[Mal]

She probably got a fatty. She from the South. Cornbread fed. You know that. He probably be at work. Like, she say she white, but I don't know.

[Julian]

Mall don't piss me off.

[Mal]

All right, I'm stopping, man. Tickets available now newroarimal.com we will be in Atlanta November 22nd.

[Rory]

Yes.

[Mal]

And then we are here in New York to end out the year December 14th at Gramercy Theater. Get your tickets now. Hope to see y'all soon.

[Rory]

You were quite the celebrity in SoHo. That was fun. When you were Andre 3000.

[Mal]

Oh, I forgot about that. That was fun.

[Damaris]

We never even.

[Rory]

Yeah, we never fully discussed that entire thing.

[Mal]

That was fun.

[Rory]

That was a lot of fun.

[Damaris]

Chasing down Chris Rock, that was fun.

[Julian]

Patreon.

[Rory]

Yeah, we'll get into the entire making of that on Patreon. That'd be a fun topic.

[Mal]

That was such a New York clip. That video is such a New York video. Like, that's a Day in New York.

[Rory]

Just happens to be walking by.

[Mal]

If we would have stayed another hour and a half, like the. We would have saw and did like. Sure, yeah, yeah. That was like 20 minutes of just random corners and it worked out great. It was dope.

[Rory]

And we did the most like un New York thing ever by following him and filming him.

[Mal]

Yeah. So nobody even cares.

[Rory]

But we'll talk about the making of the Andre 3000 video.

[Mal]

Yes.

[Rory]

On Patreon. In the meantime, buy some tickets, be blessed, Vote. Let's see what this week looks like.

[Damaris]

Vote.

[Rory]

Call me pussy. I'm a little nervous about what this week is going to look like.

[Damaris]

Like, I don't think we're going to get the official results till like Friday, Saturday.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Julian]

They going to count it up and count it up.

[Damaris]

So we'll have a little bit of time suspended.

[Rory]

I think we'll have a pretty good idea by Wednesday morning. Maybe before.

[Mal]

Make sure you.

[Rory]

I think there was so much early voting. I think this year we might get the results quicker than we've ever gotten election results in our life.

[Damaris]

I don't know historically, what is it like Georgia, North Carolina turn in their ballots very fast. But other states take time. Like, other states don't start counting until they don't even start counting their early ballots until all the other ballots are in. There's like weird rules, but I think.

[Rory]

With the records of early voting, it'll be, you know, a bit easier to count the actual voting day.

[Mal]

Before we leave, though, we do have to say rest in peace prayers and condolences to the family of the great, great, great legendary icon, one of our beloved figures in our culture. Mr. Quincy Jones passed away over the weekend. He was 91 years old. If you've ever been into music, into the arts, you've been taught some of Quincy's works and his music, and he's inspired you in some way, shape, form or fashion. So we lost one of our legends, one of our icons. There will never be another, another person, another man like Mr. Quincy Jones, greatest.

[Rory]

Producer that's ever lived.

[Mal]

Not even close.

[Rory]

Period. Greatest ear, greatest everything when it comes to making music.

[Mal]

Not even. Not even close.

[Rory]

Nobody has a better catalog. Quincy Jones is the goats. I know we can have a bunch. There is only one goat when it comes to production, and his name is Quincy Jones. Rest in peace. Also one of the greatest interviews I've ever read. If he could only top his legacy even more. And we can end with. Do you like Brazilian music?

[Mal]

No.

[Rory]

Warrior now.