Episode 320 | Above The Rim

Summary

Podcast Summary: New Rory & MAL - Episode 320 | "Above The Rim"

Release Date: November 15, 2024
Hosts: Damaris, Julian, Mall (also referred to as Maul), and occasional guest Rory
Platform: iHeartPodcasts and The Volume

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Introduction and Early Banter ([00:00] - [02:16])

The episode kicks off with the hosts engaging in playful banter and lyrical snippets, setting a relaxed and humorous tone. They reference popular culture elements, including mentions of "Arthur the aardvark," teasing listeners with inside jokes and familiar phrases.

Notable Quotes:

• Damaris ([00:27]): "Till sweat drops down my balls... Oh skeet, skeet, oh skeep ski, God damn."
• Julian ([01:04]): "You wish you had love like that. I do."

Long-Distance Pickup Attempt ([02:22] - [04:19])

The conversation shifts to Julian recounting an awkward encounter where a woman engaged with him while her boyfriend was in Spain. The hosts dissect the nuances of such interactions, emphasizing boundaries and the importance of respecting committed relationships.

Notable Quotes:

• Julian ([03:23]): "She was very much coming on to me. And I was like, are you guys open?"
• Mall ([04:45]): "If she was your type and she was hot, you would have..."

Colorism and Social Media Discussions ([05:03] - [08:56])

Damaris introduces a contentious topic regarding colorism, referencing a TikTok video by their friend Clay, who vehemently denies accusations of colorism. The hosts debate the validity of Clay's claims, discussing broader societal issues of skin tone bias and personal attractiveness.

Notable Quotes:

• Damaris ([05:20]): "People will put a higher value on light-skinned women than browner or darker-skinned women. That's colorism."
• Mall ([07:08]): "Some people are just... there's no saving them."

Monkeys Escape Story ([09:20] - [11:43])

The hosts humorously navigate a bizarre news snippet about 43 monkeys escaping a research facility in South Carolina. They joke about the potential chaos and absurd scenarios that could ensue, blending humor with imaginative storytelling.

Notable Quotes:

• Julian ([09:46]): "Monkey steel could have stole the election. Kamala could have used those votes in South Carolina."
• Mall ([10:01]): "Why did they escape from this facility? And I'm happy they escaped."

Social Media Practices: Unfollowing and Friendships ([12:11] - [22:35])

A significant portion of the episode delves into the hosts' perspectives on social media usage, particularly the act of unfollowing inactive or unengaging accounts. They discuss the emotional toll of maintaining online relationships, the pressures of responding to social media interactions, and the challenges of balancing real-life friendships with online dynamics.

Notable Quotes:

• Mall ([12:25]): "Who could it be? Who would it be? I'm trying to think of who do I see on social media that I'm just like, yeah, I wish this person would just disappear forever."
• Damaris ([16:23]): "I don't want to read your diary. ... Some people just tweet to get validation."

Julian's Birthday and Personal Sharing ([26:00] - [29:15])

In a heartfelt segment, Julian shares a poetic reflection on his 32nd birthday, detailing personal experiences and emotions. The group reads excerpts from his poetic Twitter post, revealing deeper layers of Julian's introspection and the dynamics of their friendship.

Notable Quotes:

• Julian ([26:00]): "I was jacked up on a bunch of coffee at Dumbo House, staring at the water, zooted off coffee."
• Mall ([26:35]): "That's a bar."

Voicemail Scenarios and Advice on Friendship Dynamics ([28:16] - [59:59])

The podcast features voicemails from listeners presenting hypothetical scenarios related to friendships and social interactions. Mall and Damaris offer candid advice on handling conflicts, particularly focusing on loyalty, communication, and the complexities of maintaining long-term friendships amidst personal growth and changing circumstances.

Notable Quotes:

• Caller C.J. ([72:41]): "Are we wrong? Have y'all ever been in a position where you had to tell your homeboy..."
• Mall ([75:07]): "That nigga's a hater. From my experience."

Discussion on Music and Artist Introductions ([85:15] - [95:54])

Rory poses a question about encountering a critically acclaimed artist through one of their less celebrated albums. The hosts debate the importance of an artist's discography, suggesting that initial negative impressions shouldn't deter listeners from exploring an artist's broader body of work. They emphasize the value of context and the evolution of an artist's sound over time.

Notable Quotes:

• Damaris ([86:16]): "It sounds like some people go into some things thinking that people are overrated..."
• Mall ([93:30]): "I would send the 22-year-old to the Blueprint."

NBA and Basketball Discussion ([95:00] - [101:00])

The conversation turns to basketball, specifically focusing on the New York Knicks, player chemistry, and recent trades. The hosts analyze team dynamics, player performances, and the impact of interpersonal relationships on the court, blending sports analysis with personal anecdotes.

Notable Quotes:

• Mall ([100:41]): "You're a great player, though. Julius is..."
• Damaris ([99:58]): "So Cat's ass."

Final Remarks and Future Events ([101:00] - [103:41])

Wrapping up the episode, the hosts discuss upcoming events, including live shows in Atlanta and Gramercy Theater. They also touch on current pop culture topics, such as Mike Tyson vs. Jake Paul, and share humorous takes on celebrity news. The episode concludes with a blend of humor, camaraderie, and a teaser for future content.

Notable Quotes:

• Mall ([102:53]): "Tickets available [e-mail]..."
• Julian ([103:25]): "Party."

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Conclusion

Episode 320 of "New Rory & MAL," titled "Above The Rim," navigates a diverse array of topics ranging from personal anecdotes and social media dynamics to societal issues like colorism and playful discussions on pop culture. The hosts maintain a balance between humor and deep conversations, offering listeners both entertainment and thoughtful insights. Noteworthy moments include their candid discussions on friendship, the impact of social media, and their heartfelt reflections on personal milestones such as Julian's birthday.

For those who haven't tuned in, this episode promises a mix of laughter, relatable stories, and engaging dialogues that encapsulate the essence of "New Rory & MAL."

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Highlights with Notable Quotes:

• Colorism Debate:

  • Damaris ([05:20]): "People will put a higher value on light-skinned women than browner or darker-skinned women. That's colorism."
  • Mall ([07:08]): "Some people are just... there's no saving them."

• Social Media Unfollowing:

  • Mall ([12:25]): "Who could it be? Who would it be? I'm trying to think of who do I see on social media that I'm just like, yeah, I wish this person would just disappear forever."
  • Damaris ([16:23]): "I don't want to read your diary. ... Some people just tweet to get validation."

• Julian's Birthday Reflection:

  • Julian ([26:00]): "I was jacked up on a bunch of coffee at Dumbo House, staring at the water, zooted off coffee."
  • Mall ([26:35]): "That's a bar."

• Friendship Dynamics:

  • Mall ([75:07]): "That nigga's a hater. From my experience."
  • Damaris ([78:25]): "They're trying so hard to be the group leader, but that's not you being the group leader."

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Upcoming Events:

• Live Shows:
  • Atlanta: November 22nd
  • Gramercy Theater: December 14th
  • Tickets: Available at newroyamal.com

Stay tuned for more engaging episodes from "New Rory & MAL," where the hosts continue to explore a multitude of topics with their signature blend of humor and honesty.

Transcript

[Damaris]

No worry at night three, six, nine. Damn you're fine. Hoping you can sock it to me, baby One more time.

[Julian]

Get low, get low, get low, get.

[Mall]

Low, get low, get low, get low.

[Julian]

Get low, get low, get low, get low.

[Mall]

From the windows to the walls.

[Damaris]

Til sweat drops down my balls till all these bits. Oh skeet, skeet, oh skeep ski, God damn.

[Rory]

Oh skeet ski.

[Damaris]

Oh skeet ski. God damn. Shorty crumb. So fresh, so clean.

[Mall]

Lingering of the burp in your nose.

[Julian]

It was not my burp. It was definitely not the.

[Mall]

Because I also didn't have garbage mother to ski. Ski, God damn. Till the sweat dropped down my balls. My ball. Oh my.

[Julian]

I literally gotta harmonize it.

[Mall]

They was harmonized marriage.

[Julian]

You wish you had love like that. I do.

[Damaris]

I mean, that's. It's very sweet.

[Julian]

Where were you when Get Low came out?

[Damaris]

Yeah. Probably elementary school.

[Julian]

Elementary.

[Mall]

Elementary. You're not the only one. That. That. That is like a regional thing where you from?

[Damaris]

And I'm aware it's split.

[Julian]

Where I grew up, people say it too. I.

[Mall]

Sometimes I heard somebody else from like up there. I was like, okay, so that's not just baby.

[Damaris]

No. Yeah. I'm not just people like, oh my gosh, she's so ill. Like, that's. That's not it. Just.

[Mall]

They think you illiterate, cuz you.

[Damaris]

Yeah, they were calling me all types of dumb bees. Illiterate.

[Mall]

Yeah, they call me dumb bees all the time.

[Julian]

369.

[Damaris]

I mean, that's different.

[Mall]

All right.

[Julian]

Look at Zuck teaching Rolling Peach.

[Damaris]

We been rolling.

[Mall]

We've been rolling.

[Damaris]

We've been.

[Mall]

Oh, we've been rolling since been. Since pimping. Since pimp. Pimping.

[Damaris]

Why you dressed like Arthur?

[Mall]

Who's Arthur?

[Julian]

Come on, Maul.

[Mall]

I don't.

[Damaris]

The aardvark.

[Mall]

Arthur the aardvark.

[Julian]

Arthur.

[Mall]

Oh, that's Arthur. Oh, Arthur's fist. Oh, yes. She said Arthur's fist. I don't know Arthur. You got to say Arthur's fist.

[Damaris]

I forgot.

[Mall]

Before my time, I was already outside.

[Julian]

Baby D grew up on Arthur.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Mall]

I was saying, when Arthur debut.

[Julian]

Ma was slinging crack. When Arthur was skipping around the block.

[Mall]

I was doing what?

[Julian]

Selling things.

[Damaris]

Ratatouille.

[Mall]

Yeah, like you see him, right? This ain't Vlad, bro. This is new Roaring. We don't do those things.

[Julian]

Arthur debuted in October 97. Oh, October 7, 1996.

[Mall]

Yeah. I was in high school.

[Damaris]

Oh, wow. I mean, not. I'm not like, not, not. Oh, wow.

[Mall]

Like, I just started my.

[Julian]

I was Four.

[Mall]

Sophomore year in high school.

[Damaris]

I was two. Wow. I really grew up with Arthur. I love that. I'm sure our listeners did too, though, so.

[Mall]

You wish our listeners grew up.

[Damaris]

No, I'm sure our listeners grew up with Arthur as well. But when I saw you in the yellow, that's just the first thing I thought. Was Arthur Yellow. 1. A nigga bagged me and Arthur yellow, though. So it's not like. It's not a knock.

[Mall]

I didn't take it as a knock.

[Damaris]

Okay.

[Mall]

I don't. I told you everything to the chin, nothing to the heart.

[Julian]

What's the worst color you got bagged in? Or like the worst outfit someone had on me. Any of them.

[Mall]

Women don't bag men. So that.

[Julian]

That happened. Oh, stop.

[Damaris]

I get.

[Mall]

Well, you think you a. So. So that's a whole. That's a whole nother conversation.

[Damaris]

Very feminine.

[Mall]

Well, yes, the curls is very feminine.

[Julian]

This girl that was engaged, her boyfriend lived in Spain. This happened last weekend. Was trying to pick me up. I was out to dinner with a friends and she was trying to pick me up.

[Damaris]

Oh, she. I thought you said her boyfriend. Wait, where's she from?

[Julian]

She's from. I think she's from Spain too, or something.

[Mall]

That culture is different over there.

[Julian]

But they've been engaged. They've been together for 10 years. Recently engaged. Been engaged for like a year or two. It's at this point, but he. They do a very long distance relationship. And she was like, very much coming on to me. And I was like, are you guys open? She'd be like, no. And I was like, doesn't seem that way.

[Damaris]

She could have lied.

[Julian]

Yeah. I was like, you're clearly trying to cheat.

[Mall]

You asked her, was her husband with her?

[Julian]

No, he was in Spain.

[Damaris]

No, he asked if, like, because the way she was.

[Julian]

Because we were sitting next to each other. Was that like a really. It was a nice restaurant. It was like we were sitting. We seated at the bar. So it was me and then my two friends to my right. And she was the person. The chair on my left.

[Mall]

Right.

[Julian]

And she was like, very much like, ooh, how's your dinner? What are you guys eating? Like, very touchy feeling. I was like, I see the ring.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Julian]

And then we got to talking, like, relationship status, all that. And she was like, very open about talking about him. She didn't give a shit.

[Mall]

Did you?

[Julian]

I didn't care. But I'm also. I wasn't gonna. No, I wasn't gonna.

[Damaris]

So you cared a little.

[Julian]

No, no. I was just busy with My friends, we were doing like, I wasn't gonna have her tag along and all that.

[Mall]

Oh, she wasn't hot enough.

[Julian]

No, exactly.

[Mall]

See, I know you, man, because that story would have went a whole nother way if she was your type and she was hot. If she was.

[Julian]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Mall]

I took a. Totally took back home, banged her brains out all night and, you know, I mean, I just had a coffee in the morning. That was it.

[Julian]

Thank your friend.

[Mall]

Yeah, as soon as he's like, as soon as he said thank of me, that's what you would have said. As soon as he was like, nah, you know, I was just chilling with her. That means you wasn't attracted to her. Dog, it's always the ones that you ain't attracted to. That's crazy aggressive.

[Damaris]

Oh, I got to tell y'all about y'all boy, Clay. Every time I try to like be on Clay side and stick up for Clay.

[Mall]

Yo, listen, man, that's the homie. Don't be.

[Damaris]

Don't he go and do some unsupportion.

[Mall]

What did Clay do now?

[Damaris]

So I'm on Tik Tok. You know, we follow each other on Tik Tok now, cuz we're friends. You made he. Well, I had to tag him.

[Julian]

No, I know. I'm joking.

[Damaris]

Like, yeah, like, I don't chill, but we follow each other. So on one of his tiktoks, he says, you know, there's this black women have created this whole rhetoric that I'm colorist and have been kicking my back and ever since the show. I'm not colorist. The people who are complaining about colorism are just fours and under. People don't want you because you're. People are just don't want you because you're ugly, not because you're color, not because they're colorist. Do you think Justine sky complains about colorism? Does Scottie Beam complain about colorism? Yes, actually, they do. A lot.

[Mall]

Yeah, but they, but they're color. But what they're complaining about. I think Justine sky and Scotty is probably like work related colorism. Not that nobody thinks that they're attractive or doesn't like them. Everybody, everybody thinks Justine, Scott and Scotty be more attractive ladies.

[Damaris]

That's not true, though. I think you guys think because you think that they're attractive. A lot of people don't. He doesn't put like any.

[Mall]

Anybody that doesn't think Justin, Scott and Scotty are attractive. That's somebody I just don't even like. You just don't have taste, but some people.

[Damaris]

But what I'm telling you is something.

[Mall]

I'm never talking to that don't got taste. How about that? If you ain't got a certain taste level, anything I say in my mouth is not for you.

[Julian]

Listen, that's not fair.

[Damaris]

Do you want to play this?

[Mall]

Why? That's not fair. I'm not trying to offend you. It's just a different taste level like this.

[Damaris]

He. I was trying to stick up for him.

[Rory]

Coming at you with the opinions that nobody asked.

[Julian]

This is a five minute video.

[Damaris]

Oh, yeah. No, we're watching. You can take it off. I summed it up basically. But yeah, I'm like, that's not true. Scotty complains about colorism all the time.

[Mall]

But colorism as far as what?

[Damaris]

Just people who are colorist, period.

[Mall]

I'm sure you just don't like dark skinned, darker skinned women.

[Damaris]

Yes. Or that put. I don't even want to say. Just because people have preferences, whatever. People will put a higher value on light skinned women than browner or darker skinned women. That's colorism.

[Julian]

That's historically true.

[Damaris]

Yeah. So it doesn't matter how fine they are. Yes, they're some of the most beautiful women in the world to us. But to other people, they don't value what they say or think that they overvalue what they, they have over. They're overvaluing their self because they're not light skinned. That happens a lot.

[Mall]

Oh yeah, it happens. But I mean, we gotta just understand that certain people are just. There's no saving them. Yes. Their ideologies, the way they think, that's just. You can't please everybody.

[Damaris]

Exactly. But Clay also doesn't need to go on there and say if, if you're complaining about colorism, it's because you're ugly. Like people, cute girls don't complain about colorism because that's just not. I said, clay, this is really bad. Take this down. He gonna, he gonna write back and say which part? You know what?

[Mall]

Yeah, which part?

[Damaris]

Some people can't be saved.

[Mall]

I mean, I think, you know, some people, because again, some people literally have. When you say colorism, like somebody, like Clay in particular, you talking about, I think his mind is so far not on that, that if somebody takes what he's saying as him being. He's like, what are you talking about? Like, I love all types of women. I love all types of shades of women. Like I don't care about color. So he says something like that. He don't, he don't understand or doesn't register how it could be offensive. That can still be offensive because his mind is so far removed for. I don't even. I don't care about the complexion of a woman. Like, I like, who I like, what I like.

[Damaris]

He also just didn't have to call women. Whenever you trying to win women back, you don't gotta call them ugly.

[Mall]

Well, not.

[Julian]

Well, sometimes a bad angle.

[Damaris]

Some people are ugly, but, like, you don't have to call the women who do you see, you don't got.

[Julian]

I see Mall's point, though, because sometimes, like, I. People say stuff about me. I mean, about all of us, and we'll be like, that's so far removed from what I actually believe that that's like a ridiculous statement. That that wouldn't even. You know, I mean, it's like, I'm offended that you even would.

[Mall]

I'm offended that you think that's the.

[Julian]

Type of person you think that I would even think that way.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Mall]

Yeah. It's just. It's just, you know, that's the world we live in. But hopefully Clay is, you know, he's doing fine. We gotta. We gotta. We should do a thing where we call Clay and check up on him from time to time. Yeah, just check up on and make sure he ain't doing nothing crazy down in the Carolinas. Speaking of the Carolinas, hopefully one of them 43 monkeys won't be renting any of Clay's boat. Lake. What does he got? Lake. Right. Boat rentals.

[Damaris]

What is going on with that?

[Mall]

With his boats?

[Julian]

No, the monkeys.

[Damaris]

Monkeys?

[Mall]

I don't know. 43 monkeys escaped from a research facility in South Carolina last night. Well, this was a couple of days ago, and police are now searching for. The residents have been warned to lock all doors.

[Julian]

And there's like, I believe there's like 18, or if not a few more still on the loose, which is awesome.

[Mall]

Saying they on the loosers a lot. You're not catching these monkeys. Those are the 18. Just forget about it.

[Julian]

Monkey steel could have stole the election. Kamala could have used those votes in South Carolina.

[Mall]

Yeah, she got hoes down there. She got hoes. I want to know, who did those monkeys vote for? Who do you think they voted for? Why did they escape from this facility? And I'm happy they escaped. They probably in there killing these monkeys.

[Damaris]

Fingering them, do all that. Weird.

[Julian]

Yeah. What?

[Mall]

Sometimes you got to just let the animals be animals. Let them out, man. Let them go.

[Damaris]

Yeah, but they don't need to be just running around residential areas, I guess.

[Julian]

They were on an island. It's called Morgan island. And that's the where they escaped from. So a biolab that is. Yeah. On the island.

[Mall]

Oh, okay.

[Julian]

Pretty interesting.

[Damaris]

They probably were experimenting on the monkeys. No, monkeys probably smarter. Smart as hell. Like smarter than regular monkeys.

[Julian]

What if this is just a rollout for the new Planet of the Apes? I feel like they put those movies out every six months.

[Damaris]

They'd be busting every time though.

[Julian]

Do they?

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Mall]

Then once they start having. Once they start mating. Oh yeah, it's going to be a problem.

[Damaris]

Oh no. If I go in my backyard and it's little monkey babies.

[Julian]

What if you just see a monkey clapping the shit out of your dog's cheeks?

[Mall]

I just, I just don't think that that's possible.

[Julian]

Why not? I mean, you know, why wouldn't a monkey.

[Mall]

I don't think, I don't think a dog is gonna just let that happen.

[Julian]

No, not obviously he's not consensual.

[Mall]

What type of dog are we talking about?

[Julian]

Like, I'm picturing like a Basley sized dog.

[Damaris]

Oh my.

[Julian]

Why are you basically just that size?

[Mall]

Oh yeah. Like a. Yeah. See, one of those dogs might be.

[Julian]

The monkey could literally just scoop.

[Mall]

The monkeys are strong.

[Julian]

Fold it up into the tree.

[Mall]

But. But if it runs into like a corso or a mastiff is over that monkey.

[Julian]

Oh, a mastiff.

[Mall]

That monkey ain't got a chance. But like someone something like a little Yorkie pool. Is that what Basley is? A Yorkie poo?

[Damaris]

Something like that. She might be a multi pool multiple.

[Mall]

Yeah, multipools out of here. One of the monkeys catch one of the multipools in the backyard, they could forget about it.

[Julian]

Oh, come on. A monkey would wreck that.

[Damaris]

Why are you.

[Julian]

Sorry, I'm back.

[Damaris]

You should have. You could, you could have stayed on vacation.

[Mall]

A monkey would wreck like hit that.

[Julian]

Cute.

[Mall]

This whole conversation just has a certain type of racial undertone to it. I just don't. South Carolina monkeys on the loose. I just like, all right, man, what are we doing? Like, what are we talking about, yo?

[Damaris]

I, I.

[Mall]

Well, hopefully they find these monkeys because I'm sure they have diseases. All kind of. They done pumped into these monkeys and now they're just running around in people's backyards.

[Julian]

Mall. There was a conversation. Well, I mean, I guess it was kind of better fit for the clay topic, but Damaris and I saw this question we wanted to ask you. If you could have one person removed off social media, who would it be.

[Mall]

And why If I could have one person off social media forever.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Not Meek Mill. Can't say Meek Mill.

[Mall]

I wasn't going to say Meek Mill. Y'all will make off social media forever. Y'all fucked up, man. One person off social media might be too entertaining. Who could it be? Who would it be? I'm trying to think of who do I see on social media that I'm just like, yeah, I wish this person would just disappear forever.

[Julian]

I got one. Elon Musk. Go somewhere. Go to Mars.

[Mall]

You want Elon off social media?

[Julian]

I'm so done with him. It's so over the top now.

[Mall]

Oh, I know who. Whoever's running that. Paris Hilton. That ad that pops up every 13 seconds on social media. Who's doing that?

[Julian]

I feel like I've seen that ad.

[Mall]

I've never. I want to download the record now. They. I mean, that is on my timeline.

[Damaris]

Every 20 seconds, I want to download that. Well, that's the point.

[Mall]

I haven't seen that.

[Damaris]

The marketing is working.

[Mall]

Yeah, but they could. Who. Who's running that? Can they be off social media forever? Not Paris Hilton. Whoever's running her social media. Yeah, okay. Get them off social media forever because that. That song pops up as soon as you open your phone. That song is right there.

[Julian]

Wait, Megan thee stallion's on this song. Paris Hill has a song with Megan the Stallion.

[Damaris]

What the. When did it come out?

[Julian]

A couple months ago.

[Mall]

Is this the right. I think this.

[Julian]

This has to be it. But Meg's on this.

[Mall]

Her team is doing. Who is this song unreleased under. Because they're doing. They're gonna make sure people see that this song and. And hear this and watch this video. Yeah, this song is on every. I don't care. When you go on social media, this video is popping up.

[Damaris]

I love good marketing.

[Mall]

Megan thee stallion is in this video.

[Julian]

I don't think she's in the video, but she's on the song. I haven't seen her in the video. But there are a lot of industry. There's a lot of like, Megan ain't.

[Mall]

Turn that back down. She ain't do the video, though. She know that would have hurt her brand a little. You know, I'm saying this vocals to get. Give them a couple bars. That's cool.

[Damaris]

But how would that have hurt her brand, though?

[Mall]

Megan ain't supposed to be doing no video with Paris Hill. Come on.

[Damaris]

Why not? It's a side quest.

[Mall]

Come on, man. Don't. It's a side quest. You know, it's music is what she.

[Damaris]

That's her career side genre?

[Mall]

No, ain't no side genre.

[Damaris]

This might actually be her genre.

[Julian]

That's the guy from NSync.

[Damaris]

Yeah. Lance Bass.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Is he the gay one?

[Julian]

They're all gay.

[Damaris]

No, but there's, like, a specific. There's one that came.

[Julian]

Yeah, Lance. Lance was the first one. He was a pioneer. Created this gay.

[Mall]

How you gonna say they all gay?

[Julian]

Well, except Justin Timberlake. Weren't they all gay?

[Mall]

No.

[Julian]

Oh, my bad.

[Damaris]

I think there was only one. One gay. But love to them.

[Julian]

Who would you get rid of? Damaris?

[Damaris]

No, I mean, I can understand why you would look at them and assume that, but they were young. They were young teenage boys.

[Mall]

I mean, there are gay young teenage boys as well. Not saying that this is what we're looking at, but hard to fight it.

[Damaris]

If I could get rid of one person off social media.

[Mall]

Can't say Meek, and Meek is not as bad on social media as y'all make him out to be, because he don't even. He don't even tweet that much. He's not on Twitter every day.

[Damaris]

Meek is funny.

[Julian]

He's funny. I think he's too funny to want to get rid of.

[Mall]

Yeah, you can't get rid of me. Y'all just give me a hard time. Who would it be?

[Damaris]

You know, anybody I say would.

[Mall]

It could be somebody that's not like, a celebrity either.

[Julian]

You gonna say your homegirl?

[Mall]

Yeah. Say it. Put out there.

[Damaris]

Nah, I'm just. I'm good. It's just some people that are constantly spilling their feelings to social media. They. They need to get off and just. I don't want to be anybody's. I don't want to read your diary.

[Mall]

You spilled your feelings to social media before. Don't do that. Just. I think a couple months ago, you went on a whole. It was like, part one, part two. You had one of those on.

[Damaris]

I never had a part one. Part two. Get the out here. I might have made a thread, but it wasn't my. Like, I don't, like, spill, like, my personal life. You know what I'm saying? Like, my personal life is not on Twitter.

[Mall]

Right?

[Damaris]

Like, I'm just going off.

[Julian]

It's on YouTube.

[Damaris]

Him and edit. And is this, this, this, this, and that. Like that. Like, girl, argue with your baby daddy on your own time. I don't want to read this. You clock.

[Mall]

But then you doing the thing that confuses me when people do that. You do all of this. Get us involved in this great story.

[Damaris]

And then tell us. Mind our Business, tell us to mind.

[Mall]

Our business and get back with the person. That's when they all get mad. Like, hold up. Why y'all ain't tell me y'all made up and now y'all cool now? I was invested in this. I read all 17 posts. Like, I feel like I'm a part of your relationship now.

[Julian]

Everything's for attention.

[Damaris]

Not everything. Not everything.

[Mall]

Everything on social media.

[Julian]

You don't bring something like that to Twitter to not get attention.

[Mall]

Everything on social media is for attention. Because if that doesn't, whatever you post and if it don't get no engagement, delete. Yeah, you mad. You like you. It's for attention. You want people to see it, you want people to respond to it. You want people to react to it. You want people to come in.

[Damaris]

I can agree that you might want people to, like, react to it, but I don't think you're like, I'm going out here for attention. I think some people just tweet all day and then when they get angry, they just start going off. I don't think that the Twitter is like, I'm going to take this to Twitter so that people can like. I think sometimes people are really angry and they put everything else on Twitter so they're just not using their brain and they're just typing. Like, I don't think it's. Everything is for attention.

[Julian]

I don't think, like, the reason is for the attention, but I think you're seeking a validation by putting something like that out there. Yeah, that makes sense.

[Damaris]

I could understand that. But I don't want to say, like, attention. Like somebody's just tweeting to get. No, I think some people are really angry and just don't know how to control their emotions and they go off on social media.

[Mall]

It's interesting because y'all kind of. Y'all grew up like y'all were in high school on social media, right?

[Julian]

Facebook came out like, what, 08.

[Damaris]

I was in. I was in middle school.

[Julian]

I was like. I was in, like, eighth grade when Facebook came out.

[Damaris]

I was on.

[Mall]

So yeah. You was in high school on Twitter?

[Damaris]

I was in high school on Twitter.

[Julian]

I was never a Twitter kid, thank God.

[Damaris]

I was.

[Mall]

Did you have Instagram in high school?

[Julian]

College.

[Mall]

College, yeah.

[Damaris]

So I got on Instagram my freshman year of college. I think that was. I think Instagram had came out maybe the year before. But when I was in high school, I was a Twitter. Like, I was on Twitter like, non stop. And that was back when Twitter was the majority of the People you were talking to on Twitter, you knew in real life. Like, you know, so you wasn't following.

[Mall]

Just random people on social media like that?

[Julian]

Yeah, not like that.

[Damaris]

Every once in a while, like, there were a lot of New Yorkers that I've met through Twitter because New York, Twitter was kind of like a thing.

[Julian]

But Instagram launched.

[Damaris]

The majority of the people I follow were from my high school.

[Julian]

October. Damn. October is popular. October 6, 2010. So I probably. I think I downloaded it in, like, 2012 or 13.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Mall]

Instagram.

[Damaris]

I was on it September 2011. I got on Instagram because I got. I had a BlackBerry before Liu gave us iPads. So I was able to download Instagram.

[Julian]

I never had a BlackBerry.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Julian]

Missed that whole phase.

[Damaris]

So, yeah, we did grow up on social media. I was on. I was making MySpace pages in middle school. 6th, 7th grade, and then Facebook throughout the end of middle school into high school, and then Twitter towards the end of high school.

[Mall]

I've been having fun on my Instagram lately. I've been, like, unfollowing a bunch of people.

[Damaris]

That's fun.

[Julian]

Yeah, it is cleansing.

[Mall]

Like spring cleaning a little bit, even though it's not spring, but.

[Damaris]

Well, how do you know who to like? What's your. Your criteria for the unfollow?

[Mall]

People that I just don't wish to see on the timeline anymore. People that I just don't.

[Julian]

It's my bag.

[Mall]

Interact with anymore. People that haven't posted in years that I obviously are not active on it anymore. Like, I went all the way back to, like, the first person I followed.

[Julian]

Oh.

[Mall]

And then worked my way. Started working my way. I was like, these. This. She hasn't posted in six years. Like, why am I still following this person? We cool in real life. Like, I don't know. They don't take it personally, but it's like, you know, you're not even active on it. Why am I following you?

[Julian]

It's funny you say that, because with my birthday just passing.

[Mall]

Happy birthday.

[Julian]

Thank you, thank you, thank you.

[Mall]

How old are you now? 30?

[Julian]

32. Yeah.

[Mall]

Magic Johnson.

[Julian]

That's right. My AIDS year. Yeah. But that is so inappropriate. But I make it my brother's on Wednesday, so obviously I get a lot of those messages, like, happy birthday. Like, let's catch up soon. All that. But then, like, the great thing about Instagram is it, you know, it doesn't delete the messages. So I'll see. Like, when's the last time we exchanged a dm? And it was like, a year ago. Another Happy birthday message.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Julian]

All right. Like yeah, we're at that phase where it's like I can just clear out the we don't need to follow each other.

[Mall]

On my birthday, I noticed that like people giving me happy birthday and I'm like, the last time, not like I'm saying where I'm looking to DM this person, but the last time this person DM me was this time last year.

[Julian]

The same day last year, same, same.

[Mall]

Message, same response from me. Thank you.

[Julian]

I'm like, I don't even hit you on your birthday. I don't even know when your birthday.

[Mall]

I don't even know your birthday.

[Damaris]

When I go to wish somebody happy birthday and I look up and the last time we spoke was the last time I wish them happy birthday and they didn't wish me happy birthday. Immediate unfollow.

[Mall]

Really?

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Mall]

Why do you.

[Damaris]

Because I'm a girl.

[Mall]

Oh, yes, we noticed that.

[Damaris]

I'm not about to be. I'm not no dick writer. I'm not about to be wishing you happy birthday every year. And you say it to me, but.

[Mall]

Why you gotta take it that person, that Dick Rider? Yeah, like that. Why you gotta take it all the way there though?

[Damaris]

We've been following each other for five years. You're telling me you never wish me happy birthday once, but I wish it to you every year? Dick riding. Not for me.

[Mall]

Yeah, but I just. Okay, it depends on who. It depends on who the person is. Do you know the person in real life or is it.

[Damaris]

Yeah, I know the person in real life. It don't matter if I know you in real life, but yes, the people I know, I. I know them in real life.

[Mall]

And even I just don't understand how people get so upset when something like people don't wish them happy birthday. I'm the total opposite.

[Damaris]

No, I'm not upset, but it's just like I'm not about to be wishing you happy birthday and you didn't do the same to me. Cuz like my birthday is a whole thing. So you know it's my birthday for a month. I post about that for a month straight. If you going through all my videos and you just couldn't just hit the happy birthday, but. But then again, I don't watch people if I don't, if we're not close, I don't watch people's stories like on their birthday month because I don't want to accidentally hit their birthday because once I watch your story, I feel like I got to wish you happy birthday.

[Mall]

I Mean, you would be crazy to watch somebody's happy Birthday rollout.

[Damaris]

And not exactly.

[Mall]

That's why that just feels like, really.

[Julian]

I just don't. Maybe I just don't look into it that way.

[Mall]

If a person. If a person has like 12 posts on their stories, that's all happy birthday. And you watch all 12, don't say that. And you don't say happy Birthday, there's something wrong. Like, bro. What you. Like, come on, fam. You just watch 12 posts and didn't say happy Birthday.

[Julian]

I don't take it. I also just don't expect a lot. Maybe it's just because I expect nothing from, like, if you just follow someone on social media, like, that's the extent of the relationship. I don't need you to be interactive in my life at all.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Julian]

But that being said, thank you to everybody that did my. I've been trying to respond as best I can. Thank you everybody that wish me happy birthday. I was very, very welcoming, very loving.

[Mall]

Flooded Floyd.

[Julian]

No, I mean, I'm doing more. I'm not. It's not like that, but I'm doing like some version of like a copy, trying to respond.

[Mall]

It's going to take about a week for me to get back to everybody.

[Julian]

But it is nice.

[Damaris]

Oh, my God. That gay ass message that you wrote on Twitter yesterday.

[Julian]

How is that gay?

[Mall]

Let's break it down. Pull it up.

[Julian]

Nah, see, no, this is not.

[Damaris]

No. Yeah, see, this is not what the monkeys, right?

[Mall]

No, the monkeys. Don't worry about it.

[Damaris]

Up that you posted, bro.

[Mall]

All right, Julia, zoom in. Let me read the whole thing. It's your birthday, so let's do the.

[Damaris]

Let's do the highlights. Small.

[Mall]

No, I'm gonna read it.

[Julian]

Ma's gonna kill it.

[Mall]

I'm not gonna make it. I'm gonna listen. We're gonna. We're gonna go on this beautiful audio journey together. I'm gonna read these words. Let's just close our eyes and let's just.

[Julian]

Can I set the stage? I was jacked up on a bunch of coffee at. I was at Dumbo House, staring at the water, zooted off coffee. And I just wrote this on a Google Doc.

[Mall]

Okay.

[Julian]

And then, like, the conversation we were having earlier, like, I wonder what people think about this. So then I put on Twitter. It was just for me.

[Mall]

So this is like a glimpse into how you were feeling.

[Julian]

Literally. Yeah, just. This is. You'll see. I recap, like, the most recent days leading up to my birthday.

[Mall]

All right, so let me. Let me try to do Some justice as we wish Julian A happy 32nd birthday.

[Damaris]

Just do the first paragraph.

[Mall]

I'm 32 today and I feel it. I've been listening to my body. Not in a way where I see the hues of my chakras running from the top of my head down my spine, like that chart of a man sitting, Indian style. A term I'm sure we're no longer supposed to use.

[Julian]

I don't know this sound.

[Mall]

All right, hold on, man.

[Julian]

You can't do it in that tone.

[Mall]

Because then up my. Come on, man. This is my. You know me. Hold on. Ah, another sign of aging. Remember when we used to say fill in the blank? What did you used to say, Julian?

[Julian]

I thought of you when I wrote that.

[Mall]

Why are you thinking of me? Because you know that you write. All right, hold on, hold on. My bad peas. Let me get back into my.

[Julian]

Ah, kill me. Good.

[Mall]

I've been getting acupuncture and cupping treatments every week for the greater. All right, man.

[Damaris]

I told you.

[Mall]

Hold on. Hold on.

[Damaris]

I told you.

[Mall]

All right, let me do that. I wasn't expecting to read greater half. I've been getting acupuncture and cupping treatments every week for the greater half of the year. My healer, as they would like to be addressed as deservedly so, has taught me a lot about how the body is interconnected.

[Julian]

Stop writing.

[Mall]

How a pain in my hip can be relieved from a pressure point in.

[Julian]

My ear, which is true, by the way.

[Mall]

I had hamstring tendonitis from the NYC marathon this past weekend. I know what you're thinking. No, I did not run the marathon. Come on, this is what you're supposed to do. All right, hold on. I was supporting a friend, and after 14 miles of walking, cutting through crowds and light jogging, woke up and couldn't bend my leg or put pressure on it. That lasted four days. My doctor basically told me aging was the cause and recommended popping Advil, icing, applying heat, and my theragun, which I used while watching the Penguin.

[Julian]

Great show.

[Mall]

Just amazing.

[Julian]

Great show.

[Damaris]

Leave it. No, wrap it up. We're not gonna read this whole thing. We're not?

[Julian]

Nah, it gets worse.

[Mall]

That's 32, but I'm happy about it. I love new experiences, good or bad. I used to romanticize the 27 Club, but dying of an overdose would have robbed me of the daily natural decay.

[Julian]

That's a bar.

[Mall]

That is a bar.

[Julian]

Thank you.

[Mall]

I played basketball last night. Going from that to I played basketball last night.

[Julian]

I was just going through recent shit.

[Mall]

I'm fundamentally Better because I have to be.

[Julian]

Yo, that makes sense.

[Mall]

All right. See, this is. This is where I think I'm. Stop after this because now you about to piss me off. Playing above the rim is no longer an option.

[Julian]

It's not. I can't jump anymore. It sucks.

[Mall]

Julia. You never played above the rim.

[Julian]

Got me up maul.

[Mall]

Vince Carter played above the rim. Julian Nichols never played above the.

[Julian]

Not Vince Carter, but.

[Mall]

So you shut the up. Aging is physical. It's a clock that once ticked silently but now ticks like a swatch watch.

[Julian]

If for those that are watch heads. Watch. Watches have very loud tickers. That's a bar too. Putting that out there.

[Mall]

God. So, you know the thing about when you say this thing, you're not supposed to explain.

[Julian]

No, I'm just. You know, just like people. There's a reason why I said Swatch watch.

[Mall]

But then you ended this beautifully. Now hurry up, because Damaris doesn't want to hear us no more. This morning I limped down my apartment's uneven pre war stairs due to a load of laundry. I chopped off my beard in between switching cycles while listening to Ethiopian jazz and facetiming my parents. They're happier about my birthday than I am. Their baby. Their baby. Getting older is a totem of their longevity. I mute myself and fold laundry as my mom recites memories. These stories are our family's legacy. I've been told the same ones for years younger me would cut my parents off or finish them in a sarcastic tone. Now I let them walk. I let them talk through it, listening for a new detail they may have added this time around. How my dad played pickup basketball with. With fat back. It's always a fat old ass. 60s love fat back. Nobody rebounds like fat back. He could never play organized ball because of his temper. My dad says with a sigh. What could have been. It's my role as a son to make sure these stories live on. To carry the family saga from my Jiddu's family in the northern mountains of Basquinta, Lebanon, and my great grandmother, sharecropper roots. Here's to the next 365. Well, 364 now.

[Julian]

Yeah. Thank you, Damaris.

[Mall]

That was pretty. That was. Come on, that was well written.

[Julian]

I was gonna write something today, then.

[Mall]

No, no. We don't. We don't deserve it. We don't deserve. Not today. We don't deserve. But Happy birthday. I'm glad you shared that with us. Shared those.

[Julian]

My life.

[Damaris]

Are you glad that he shared that?

[Mall]

I'm glad. You know. We Get. We get a glimpse in him because, you know, Julian used to play above the rim, so he's getting older now. And his knees don't. You know, the tendonitis, you know, the. The fast twitch muscles don't react like they used to.

[Damaris]

You know, I actually love you so much. That's why I'm honest with you. That long, drawn out ass. Get to the point.

[Mall]

I got.

[Julian]

The point was the story. That was the whole point.

[Mall]

The point was he can no longer jump like he used to because he's 30.

[Julian]

Also, Damaris retweeted it and then deleted her tweet because people were making fun of your retweet. So.

[Mall]

Huh?

[Damaris]

Nobody was making fun of my retweet. Everybody was laughing.

[Julian]

She called me gay and agreeing with me. And then everyone was like, that's so disrespectful. This is poetic and beautiful. And she deleted it.

[Damaris]

Oh, my.

[Mall]

Why you deleted it, baby? D?

[Damaris]

Because I. Because I'm off social media and I'm off Twitter and I just kind of was like, wait. And I didn't want to get canceled for calling you.

[Mall]

You reposted it and then deleted it?

[Damaris]

Yeah, I deleted it. I didn't want. I didn't. And I felt bad because I'm like, I don't want to get canceled for calling him the G word.

[Mall]

Oh, okay.

[Julian]

So we'll do it on the podcast. Yeah, yeah.

[Mall]

I'm gonna do it on this platform.

[Julian]

With a much lesser audience.

[Damaris]

I mean, but Twitter is like, you know, a Twitter with all the think pieces. That's another thing that's. I gotta get the fuck off Twitter. There's so many think pieces. Everybody's a goddamn political. Political science major. I'm over.

[Mall]

Yeah, the politics now is. I mean, that's why I said the thing. Election year, election time. But it's definitely. It's like, can we just get back to just having fun? Like, everybody's taking things so serious and we should take things like election and politics seriously to some degree. It's going to be what it's going to be regardless. But it is definitely feeling like, you know, you can't express your opinions without, you know, people were saying how they stopped talking to people based on who they were voting for.

[Damaris]

Well, that type of stuff has been happening. I don't care.

[Mall]

But that's stupid to me.

[Damaris]

I mean, you can feel that way. I think people think that they're who they voted for. And I really don't want to talk about politics ever again on this podcast. But I think people Think that who they voted for is connected to their morals. And if we don't have a line in morals, then I don't want to be friends with you or talk to you. That I can understand. I'm talking about just the thing. Every single thing that anybody says is a think piece. Every joke somebody makes, political or not, is a think piece. Like, Twitter used to be a fun, chaotic place. We used to just go on there and tweet stupid. Remember light skinned versus dark skinned. Remember that?

[Mall]

And then they silenced us and they said that things were offensive. And everybody started having this victim mentality based on what people were tweeting.

[Damaris]

I just want, I want Twitter after dark back. I want hashtags back. Like, I just want, like, I want to be able to like just the good times.

[Mall]

You just want to laugh and have fun.

[Damaris]

Laugh and have fun. All these. Everything is a think piece. Everybody's writing these long.

[Julian]

Everybody wants to be a victim.

[Damaris]

Yeah, that shit is.

[Mall]

So that's the thing I don't understand most about it a lot. Like, I look at the things a lot of people sit and say on podcasts and on social media and I'm just amazed at the amount of people that just walk around daily with victim mentality. It's crazy to me. Like, and I, I don't want to feel insensitive because I know people, we all go through things, but I just feel like people are looking to wake up and see what can I, what can I feel like is, is, is is hurting me today or bothering me or what can I take offensive today? Like, people go out and just look for that and I'm just like, bro, it's really not that deep. Like, it's not that serious. Like, I promise, I know there's issues in the world and I know there's issues in our country and day to day lives, we have our. I get that part. But it's also not that deep. It's not that heavy. Like, and I see people just. That's the mentality. Now everybody is like, oh, I'm offended. I'm like, by what? Somebody tweeted that. You don't even follow that. Somebody just retweeted on it and fell on your timeline and now you're doing a whole post and a whole tick tock based on this.

[Julian]

Like, but I think people do that because when you're, when you have the. It's crazy to say like that when you have. It sounds counterintuitive. When you have the advantage of being a victim, then it can become an excuse for your shortcomings. So it's like, all right, well, this didn't work out for me because they won't let me, you know, move up in my career, whatever the general, you know, if it's a relationship problem or a career problem, I'm not making this much money because of fill in the blank. So it just kind of deflects the onus off of you in your, you know, your shortcomings. It's like, oh, well, this doesn't happen because it's not supposed to happen for people like me. That's what annoys me. But I don't know.

[Damaris]

I mean, I, I. If you want to complain about systemic racism, and I, I get that, but you complain about racists that, like, work at cvs. That's. That's one thing I never understood. You complain about racists that work at cvs, babe, and they're tweeting, they're not bothering you, they're not affecting you in any way.

[Mall]

I just don't get. I just don't let it be racism.

[Damaris]

Peace.

[Mall]

Yeah. Like, I just don't get, you know, people's want and need to just feel like a victim. I just, you know, if something bad happens at nine in the morning, ten in the morning, when you, wherever, you get ready to go to work, I get it. But it's like, that doesn't mean that the entire city is against you because something bad happened.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Mall]

On your way to work. Or that people don't like you because you're. Fill in the blank.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Mall]

Like, that's just, to me, it's just, it's like, what the are we talking about? Like, let's just. It's okay. Life is, you know, tough at times, but the whole world is not against you. I can promise you that.

[Damaris]

But, and even if it was, like, you still got to live anyway. Like, stop sitting.

[Mall]

Rent is still due. Yeah.

[Damaris]

Like, you sitting in your doom and gloom. Like, you're having a bad day. You're not having a bad life. I feel like some people, granted, there is, like, clinical depression and there are people who have chemical imbalances, but I think some people are so depressed because, like, they're comfortable in that feeling. They don't know how to handle happiness or how to accept joy into their lives. Like, they're not chasing joy. They like, like chaos and instability and feelings that are like, that make them feel uncomfortable. They like that they're used to it. That's probably what they were raised around. But, yeah, like, it's like, be happy.

[Julian]

Like, ISO on Rory, ISO camp each.

[Damaris]

And you know, I love my friends. That wasn't. That wasn't shade, but it's.

[Mall]

How do you feel, sir?

[Damaris]

Like, find the good in life and, like, enjoy the good. Like, damn. Like, I woke up today. Like, I have food in my fridge. Yes, the fucking eggs are 18. But you know what? I was able to buy them all them anyway.

[Mall]

Yeah. You know how many times I could plan on? I'm like, what? This cost? What. This is crazy. I'm still reaching my pocket. I'm still gonna get it. Like, so what's the problem? When do y'all realize. And this is something I thought about up, like, the last week, looking back at a lot of my friendships that, you know, people that you no longer speak to and talk to. When do y'all realize that a friendship that you have is. It's kind of like, over with. It no longer aligns with who you are and the person that you're becoming. Like, how. How do you navigate through that? How do you. How do you talk through that? Like, do you have a conversation with the person or do you kind of just let the friendship kind of fade? Fade out, Fades away? Like, how do you do that?

[Julian]

I'm gonna let the. I'm gonna let it fade. I'm gonna let the fade happen kind of guy. You'll let the fade happen more often than not. I'll just let it go out. That's happened to me. But then there's always that. There's always that side, too, where it's like, you always want to be the one that's like, well, this isn't working out, but it's not my fault. But I've been in the position probably like two times or that I can at least think of where maybe I'm the one that this person's outgrown.

[Mall]

You know, I mean, that's interesting to have that, like, point of view on it where you feel like you're the person that.

[Julian]

Yeah. And I don't want to say, like, the word problem, because it was. There was never a problem. We never had.

[Mall]

Like, it doesn't have to be a problem. It's just like, life happens.

[Julian]

It was just like one in particular. He got. We were inseparable best friends. He got in a relationship, became wifed up immediately. They were like this. And then they up and, like, moved across country and now live, like, in la. And I was like, huh, that. All that happened so fast. Then we just, like, stopped talking and he got married. Wasn't invited to the Wedding. Didn't hear anything. It was just like. But I wasn't like. I didn't take any offense, but I was just like, yeah, Like, I guess that's just how shit can happen. But that was, like, my first time where that felt like, damn. Like that. Really? All that time. Knows my parents. I know his parents. Like, our parents have met each other. It was like. It was odd, but I don't know. Yeah, that was. That was the one that I always think of. And that still occasionally passes through my mind where I'm like, it's weird because even we have mutuals, but even those mutuals, he kind of fell out with all of them as well. And we've all had that, like, group talk where it's like, what happened? Yeah, but we know what happened. But it's not, like, a bad thing that that happened. It's just, like, odd that it just fizzled.

[Mall]

I got a close. Well, he. We were close friends. We haven't spoken in almost two years. But, like, he stopped talking to me. Funny, because we talking about earlier. He stopped talking to me because I didn't wish him a happy birthday on his birthday.

[Damaris]

Oh, that's a little.

[Julian]

That's lame.

[Mall]

Okay, so now y'all. Okay. I'm glad we're on the same page, because now everybody's been like, yo, you should reach out. I'm like, but how do. As a man and y'all know me? I'm like, I'm from that. I'm from that cloth that ran out a long time ago. How. I can't have that conversation. Cause it just.

[Damaris]

It feels nasty.

[Mall]

It's like a lover's quarrel type of feel.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Mall]

Like, yo, bro, no, it's been a minute. We haven't talked. No, you were mad at me. Cause I don't wish you happy birthday. I just. I don't send him a kid. I don't know how to. I don't know how to call him and not start, like, laughing at him. Like, yo, you really stopped talking to me because I didn't wish you a happy birthday? What type of clown she is. More than that.

[Damaris]

It's more than that. When was it that you didn't wish him happy birthday?

[Mall]

Almost two years ago.

[Julian]

Did he wish you happy birthday? I can't believe. I mean, asking that.

[Mall]

No, his birthday is before mine, but that's what I'm saying. I wouldn't give a fuck if he didn't wish me happy birthday. Like, I've been with people. I've literally been with people on my Birthday, and they didn't tell me happy birthday.

[Julian]

That was me literally last night.

[Damaris]

I was gonna say, did you. Wait, were you upset that I called you yesterday and didn't wish you a happy birth?

[Julian]

Not at all. Didn't.

[Damaris]

I called him because, remember, somebody took his birthday out of the calendar? So I called him yesterday for some production shit he did. And I was like, I did.

[Julian]

I'm not getting blamed for this.

[Damaris]

I don't know who took it out, but I called him and I was on the phone with him. And then later, Peach was like, yeah, isn't it Julian's birthday? And I'm like, I had a whole phone conversation with him. He didn't even mention it.

[Mall]

Yeah, like he was doing something for himself. I don't know. Like, I just feel like the reason why I don't. I'm gonna call him because I feel like we have to, like, call him now. But I just feel like. I just feel like one. We have to add a conversation, but it's like, you should call him. It's gonna. It's gonna lead into a deeper conversation because he can't tell me that he just stopped talking to me because I didn't wish happened. Don't tell me that, bro. Like, I've been way too solid of a friend. I've been there for you. Like, I. As friends, I don't count favors. I'm never doing that. But, you know, I've been there. And the things I've done and how I held you down in different situations, like for you to stop talking to me because I didn't wish you a happy birthday, you gotta give me. Don't. Just tell me it was that, like, tell me it was something else.

[Damaris]

Tell me why you feel like I didn't wish you happy birthday. Because I feel like that's why you stopped talking to me. Why do you think that I didn't.

[Mall]

Yeah, I'll be feeling like you. I. Because I. Because this was another thing. This was another thing I felt like. Which is why I said we have to have a deeper conversation. Because I heard, you know how, like, I. I got a bunch of, like, real close female friends that I'm just cool with. And one of my female friends in particular, she does this thing where she don't like to cause issues. But, like, if I'd be like, yeah, I'm about to go meet up with my homie. She's like, who? And then I'll say, I say, like, I say example. I say his name, she'd be like, she'd be like, homie, right? And I'm like, well, what that means? She's like, nothing, but she'll give me little.

[Damaris]

Yeah, a little breadcrumb.

[Mall]

So I'm thinking it may be something to. Where he feels like, whatever he says when I'm not around, behind my back, it may have gotten back to me.

[Damaris]

Back to me. Mm.

[Mall]

You see what I'm saying? And then now he feel like I don't know how to have that conversation with him. Because you can't tell me you stopped talking to me as close as we were for almost two years because I didn't wish you happy birthday. I'm not taking that. Like, you know, life is busy. Life gets crazy. I don't even know the days anymore. I know, like, I don't know the date. I know the days. Like, today's Monday's Monday.

[Damaris]

I don't know what's the.

[Mall]

I don't know the date. You know what I'm saying? So it's like, you know, that. That's not. I didn't do that on purpose. So I feel like he may have said something to somebody, and they got back to me, and I'm just like.

[Damaris]

All right, trash takes itself out. And I'm not calling him trash. That's just a metaphor. But, you know, the trash takes itself out. People's own guilt will eat them up. That's why I said, like, tell me why you think I didn't wish you happy birthday. Because if it was just, you think I forgot your birthday, that don't make you stop talking to me. You think that there's a reason. You think that I feel some type of way about you, and why would you feel that way? That's something that you need to have a conversation with yourself and then come to me and tell me why that is. I always peep shit like that. Like, people get so mad. I got into. I'm currently into it with some friends. Multiple friends.

[Mall]

Ooh, tell us the tea.

[Damaris]

Just. No, no, just about not wishing them happy birthday.

[Julian]

Wait, this is like, a thing?

[Damaris]

Yeah. Not wishing. No, not giving them happy Birthday shout outs on my Instagram.

[Julian]

Oh, that's some girl ass shit.

[Mall]

Yeah, but that's so. All right, fair. As long as we know that that's a female.

[Damaris]

I post one friend, but I didn't post them, so now there's an issue.

[Mall]

Oh, no, it's real beef.

[Julian]

It' you post a popping friend. Not the. The low one.

[Mall]

You post. You. You post a pretty friend.

[Damaris]

I stopped posting every goddamn body now ain't nobody getting no post now. I don't got. Can't nobody complain, right? Because that's not true. I post a pretty friend. Like, I, first of all, I'm a girl. I think all my friends are pretty. Like, I don't, you know, I'm delusional. I think when you're a girl, you're like no friend. You're like, you're gorgeous. Like, you just are like that. I'm not posting a friend cuz she got more followers than another friend. Like, what kind of a corn ass, lame ass bitch you think that I am? Like, you see what I'm saying? So it's just like, if you think that I'm capable of playing favoritism in that sort of way, we don't need to be friends anyway because you obviously have spent too many years around me and still have not taken the time to get to know me and know my character. So.

[Mall]

But see, I think it's easier for women that navigate through that conversation than it is men, though. Like, I don't. To me, it's just like having to talk with my homeboy about like that is just. It feels crazy. That's like, are we really talking about this? Like, what women. I understand women are more, you know, y'all have more, we're more communicative.

[Damaris]

Period, though.

[Mall]

Y'all more communicative and y'all have more space to have those type of conversations with men. I know we're supposed to express our feelings and say how we feel and have these conversations. I get it. But if my homeboy be like, yo, you ain't wish me happy birthday, fam. What's up, man? You like me? Like you like, just tell me you fuck me. Yeah, like, what's up with you, dog? Like, you going through like, just, just be who you are. You my boy no matter what. But I can't have that type of convers. Like, it's just crazy to me.

[Julian]

I didn't get my Happy be Earth day from you mall. And I'm. I'm offended.

[Mall]

I'm offended that you blocked me from your story.

[Julian]

Huh?

[Mall]

Exactly. Yeah, Exactly. Exactly. Yeah, I'm if now I'm offended. Well, look, we both.

[Julian]

No, I did it for one post. I did it for one post because I knew you were gonna kill me.

[Mall]

Okay?

[Julian]

I literally did it yesterday.

[Damaris]

That's what he said to me when he blocked me.

[Julian]

I forget to unblock everybody and then they'd. You guys.

[Mall]

But why would want me to see it? Of course I'm going to laugh at It. But I'm still. I'mma still wish you a happy birthday. I'm not that guy. Still say happy birthday. But it's like, damn, don't block me for. Let me lack it. Let me get my off on your birthday.

[Damaris]

Want you. I mean, Julian a want you to know he was at Dumbo House on his birthday.

[Mall]

I knew anyway. I know. Come on.

[Damaris]

You wasn't at work.

[Mall]

I got eyes all over the city like, you crazy. I know where everybody's at at all time.

[Damaris]

You do got somebody in Dumbo House. You was supposed to take me to.

[Mall]

The pool everywhere, man. Don't worry about that.

[Julian]

It is funny. I only blocked. I had the thought. I was like, do we block the whole crew? I only blocked one.

[Mall]

Like, why you only watch?

[Julian]

I was like, this is gonna come back around.

[Mall]

Of course it is. Like, who you blocking me for? Like, I'm gonna laugh and still wish you a happy birthday. Like, pansy, happy birthday. Like, that's all.

[Damaris]

What? What? What?

[Julian]

Yeah, there was a double house thing. It was 100 there.

[Damaris]

Oh, okay.

[Julian]

Yeah, that's exactly why.

[Damaris]

Blocking the boss and not the big mouth co workers. I didn't tell him he was at Dumbo House, though. That was Peach.

[Mall]

Did Peach say that? Oh, yeah. Peace did say that yesterday. No, I was blocking.

[Julian]

That's fair.

[Mall]

I was blocked.

[Damaris]

You should have just got rid of all of us, but. Yeah, I don't know. I just feel like at this day, we. We are old. I mean, I know you're old, but we're old, too. Like, he just turned 37. Like, we have to stop with the people expecting us to be in touch with their emotions all the time. Like, we're not out here paying bills, fighting crime, raising kids, like, watering plants. Like, we're all just trying to keep saying, I'm not gonna remember your birthday. I'm not gonna remember that it's your grandmother's funeral. I'm not gonna remember everything. If you need me, be humble enough to reach out to me and tell me that you need me. Me?

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

I'm still gonna check on you whenever I think about you. But if I'm checking on you at a time when you don't need me, and in the time that you do need me, I'm not there or I don't know to be there, you have to let me know that you need me. And I have no problem, like, coming to your aid or being there for you, being present as a friend. But I can't. I can't. Like, I can't Just know that I have a bunch of going on. And that's another thing. People think when you don't have kids that you don't have anything going on. Especially people with kids. They're like, you don't have kids. You have all this free time.

[Mall]

No, I don't.

[Damaris]

And it's like, actually, no, I don't. Yeah, I still have a bunch of shit going on. My life has a lot of value and a lot of busyness. Just because I don't have kids, it doesn't mean that I don't have shit going on. But that's what people with kids think.

[Mall]

Like, one of my best friends, he had a kid a couple years ago, and our relationship definitely changed, but not in a negative way.

[Julian]

It's Rory.

[Mall]

No, not Rory. But, like. But they had a kid around the same time, though, actually. It's, like, not too far apart. But yeah, like, our relationship changed. Without a doubt. Like, we don't see each other as much. We don't hang out as much. Like. But, like, we still, like, I cannot speak to him for three weeks. The next moment we get on the phone, we pick up right where we left off. It's like, every time. Like, that's the type of friendships I appreciate. As we get older, it's like, dog, like, we don't have to speak every day. Like, we don't gotta speak every day for you to prove you my homie. Be my homie when I'm not in that room.

[Damaris]

Oof. Hello.

[Mall]

You know what I'm saying? Like, be my homie when I'm not around. Don't be my homie when we on the phone and we hanging out together. Be my homie when I'm not there. And niggas get to talking slick. And you like, yo, who you talking about facts? He could pull up right now, you can say the same shit, like, and we can see how the conversation goes. Like, that's the type of friends I like. I don't. I don't need to speak to my friends every single day. That's just crazy to me. Like, life and you got kids, you got family. Like, if you need me, I'm here. The phone still work, but, like, I ain't about to call you and pull up to your crib or you come to my crib every day. We're not doing it. Not as adults, we're not doing it.

[Damaris]

That I. That's. That you mentioning that. Be my homie when I'm not in a room.

[Mall]

Be my homie when I'm not in that room.

[Damaris]

I think different people value different things in friendship. The thing that I value the most is you protecting me. Because I am so protect. Protecting of my friends. So I like feeling protected. So don't. Anybody who has ever come to me and told me what somebody said to me, I instantly get pissed at them. Because it's like, why do they feel so comfortable saying that to you? Because a person would never come to me me and say anything harmful about one of my friends. They would never even feel comfortable because they know they liable to get cussed the out. So somebody feeling comfortable enough to you for that information to get to you, and you bring it back to me. And you ain't check them. I don't with like that. And a lot of people like, oh, well, everybody's not confrontational. This, this, and that. Well, I don't like having friends. Somebody say something about me, you better check them. Right?

[Mall]

I've done that before. I've called my friend that I was hanging out, and some dudes I was there was talking about one of my homies. And I text him and told him to come.

[Julian]

Damn.

[Mall]

And he walked in and we said. I said, yeah, so tell him. Tell him what y'all was just talking about. I make it. I get right to it. Oh, I make it super awkward. Yo, T, right here. Don't tell me that you don't like what he said and what he did. And I tell him, and it was cool. It wasn't no fight. But it was just kind of like the initial. Like when he walked in, like, everybody thought, shit, yeah.

[Julian]

Oh, damn.

[Mall]

I was like, yeah, so. And he sat down. Cause he already knew I gave him the play already. I'm like, yo, it's a little. You know what I mean? Little slick talk talk. So as soon as he came in, yo, what up? He said, like, so what's up? What are we talking about? Got right to it.

[Damaris]

Oh, I like that type of shit. I like that like that type of thing.

[Mall]

Because I got my on me. So I did to go down here.

[Damaris]

Are you okay?

[Mall]

I'm sorry, baby. I'm working on myself. I'm a better man. Drinking like, more mushroom water and like that.

[Damaris]

Have you guys heard about this Kehlani thing?

[Mall]

I don't know, but she looked good.

[Julian]

Yeah, I agree with what Mall said.

[Mall]

I don't know what happened. I'm sorry. What is Kay. Is she okay?

[Damaris]

So Kehlani was getting killed all day yesterday while me and you were recording. She was getting killed becomes because some files came out from her custody hearing that she's in with her baby father. It's a really nasty custody.

[Mall]

Isn't her baby father gay?

[Damaris]

That was. So the baby father is coming out saying that he not gay and that Kehlani was telling everybody he was gay. It's all types of stuff.

[Mall]

Kehlani ain't saying you gay if you ain't gay, fam. She knows something the world don't, but go ahead.

[Damaris]

So he was basically trying to say he had some text messages from Kehlani and basically was like, where Kehlani? In the text message, Kehlani has said that her. That their daughter was her wife in a past life. So the Internet was killing her. Now, when Kehlani came out and clarified, Kehlani was like, I can't believe I have to speak on this. Like, these documents were leaked. Ah, ah, ah. But if you're gonna, you know, post text messages, don't doctor the text messages. So Kehlani came out and posted the full text messages. And come to find out, it was really just Kehlani went and got, like, a spiritual reading, and the spiritual reader told her that. That her daughter was her wife in a past life. In the. In the text messages, Kehlani continues to go like, this lady pro. Like, she said, I was here before earth. Like, what am I, a fossil? Like, mad, laughing emojis? Like, it was kind of making fun of the reading that she got. But the husband. Well, the baby father manipulated. Yeah. Tried to weaponize it. And basically he's trying to make it seem like Kehlani's a pedophile.

[Mall]

So that's corny.

[Julian]

They said that she's like, yeah, like the headlines are, you know, is she involved with a cult? Is her daughter being raised in a cult like environment? It's all those accusations.

[Damaris]

And honestly, I think that's very. I don't know exactly what's going on, so I won't speak to anybody's guilt or innocence. But what. What is giving me. It's giving very much anti spirituality. You know, Kaylani is very sorry.

[Julian]

No, that's. That's a funny thing to say.

[Damaris]

Anti spiritual people are.

[Julian]

No, yeah. Yes, they are. But I'm saying that's just a funny term to me.

[Damaris]

I think people are just like. People don't understand spirituality unless it's wrapped up in a particular religion. So I think that that is where a lot of this is coming from, because Kehlani has always been very openly spiritual. Now I don't know anything. There were some alleged allegations about her Letting an adult sleep in her daughter's bed. I don't know what, what's going on.

[Mall]

This is the part of the, these, these are the things that I wish weren't. We weren't privy to.

[Damaris]

Yeah, I agree.

[Mall]

Like, these are the, you know, situations and conversations that I just don't think we need to know about. Like, you know, if this is hopefully the daughter is safe, which I'm gonna to go out and say. I'm sure she is. I don't think Kehlani is a evil spirited woman. I think she's taking care of her child. You know, as much as any loving parent would take care of their child. You know, sometimes things get twisted in words, especially litigation, court. You got one parent that's trying to get whatever they're trying to get. So it's a tug of war back and forth. But again, I just. Things like this, I don't think that we, we, we need to know about such personal details about, you know, person's family. But, you know, we support Kehlani over here, so.

[Damaris]

Yeah. And if it does come out that Kehlani's a weirdo, then we'll stand on it like we stand on with all weirdos. But I just haven't seen any proof of anything or any even a skepticism of a proof that she's doing something weird. She's clarified the text messages for herself, like, so I don't know. But we'll, we'll see what happens. I just wish we didn't have to see. See what happens.

[Mall]

I've been getting a lot of those co parent conversations lately.

[Julian]

Oh, you would smoke that.

[Mall]

Like the past year. Like a lot of women that I know, they've been. We like not saying with them, but like, that conversation has been coming around a lot. Like, you would be a great co parent. I'm like, what does that mean? Like, nah woman would like that. You would be what? She knows that no matter what, if y'all don't work out as far as a relationship, like a couple, if y'all have a kid together, like, the baby's gonna be great.

[Damaris]

You too strict for me?

[Mall]

What you mean the co parent way? I'm not sure what you. I right now. I like that we landed here. How am I strict? You strict?

[Julian]

How do you mean by that?

[Damaris]

Every five seconds, Ma goes, you can't do that. Every five sec. Can't nobody do nothing. You gonna tell me that this people is doing this? This is mental illness. You too strict.

[Mall]

But some of it is mental illness. No, I think We've agreed on certain things.

[Damaris]

Certain things? Yeah. One out of seven.

[Mall]

Don't make it seem like I just be saying everything is like, I'm not that guy. Don't make me out to be that guy. I'm just saying a lot of the things that I do speak on is like. Like, bro, this is not. Is this okay now? Like, is this accepted now? This is kind of crazy. And you agree with some of it?

[Damaris]

Yes. But you're also a very. My baby mother not about to be doing this. My baby mother not about to be doing that. My baby mother not.

[Mall]

All right, but tell me. Don't just say that. No, you can't.

[Julian]

What is. What is.

[Mall]

Yeah, what is. What is this? What is that? Like, don't. Don't do that. Like, tell me what I said that you was like, why your baby mother can't do that.

[Damaris]

Cuz I think that I'm mother can date certain people. Like, you will be strict about who she dating. Even if y'all not a relationship, you gonna be strict about who she's dating.

[Mall]

I'm strict about who my friends that I've never slept with are dating. My homegirls.

[Damaris]

Exactly.

[Mall]

I'm like, yo, why are you with this dude? But that's not because I'm straight. I'm just like, yo, like, no.

[Damaris]

That you should be honest with your friends about. But I'm talking about.

[Mall]

So I can't be honest with my baby. The woman I had a child with.

[Damaris]

Your baby mother. You would be more restrictive than I.

[Mall]

For sure. My baby. Because now I have a baby with you. My baby's.

[Damaris]

Which makes sense.

[Mall]

Now you dating some clown. Cause we not together. Cool. You free to date whoever you want. But now you dating this clown. And then my daughter or my son is over there. And now he mad you not answering your phone and he popping up at your crib and all. You see where.

[Damaris]

But see, that's. That's. Yes, That's. Anything that will put your child in danger is.

[Mall]

So that's what I'm speaking from. Like, if you're gonna date. Like, if we don't work out, me and my baby mother split. Don't work out. Cool. Of course you can date. But, like, be very demure. Was that the word to use? I don't know. Be very mindful. Be very mindful of the people that you're dating. Because now you have my child. Like, my child is with you. He mad you ain't call him back. Back. He's stalking you. Now you gonna drop my kid off at school. He pop out the car behind you, trying to break stuff like that.

[Damaris]

Of course, mom, but that's what I'm just trying to. I'm like, why you dating that goofy ass? Like, he got Pradas on. Like, I feel like that's the type of.

[Mall]

You gonna see Julian, why she stretches so. I've never said. I've never said nothing like that. So y'all try to pay me to be this guy. Yeah, and I'm not that you have not some goofies out here, but you know the goofies, too. You pointed out.

[Damaris]

Out. You know.

[Mall]

Exactly.

[Damaris]

Goofy ass.

[Mall]

So. So, because. So, because I do it, it's like, yo, you straight. You do the same. You pointed out. I'm pointed out.

[Julian]

I think you guys are far more similar than you are.

[Damaris]

No, meanwhile.

[Julian]

Meanwhile, very similar.

[Mall]

Very similar. Like, that's why I be laughing at. I don't even say sometime the marriage talk. I just start laughing because I'm like, but if I said that, the marriage would be like this. But it's like, you would say it too.

[Damaris]

You feel the same way Worse. I put a little brown sugar on it.

[Mall]

That's. But see, when you get 40. When you pass 40, Baby D, you don't put cut on nothing you like. Yo, listen, this is what it is. Either you. If you offended. Oh, well, it's the truth. Be offended at the truth. I can't. I can't argue with that. You can't argue the truth? Like, that's the truth. If I say something, it's like, yeah, that's real, dog. You. You look crazy doing that. Oh, I'm a Vic. Oh, my God, I'm hurt. What? No, I gave you the truth. Deal with it. Change or not. Do live your life. But I'm gonna be honest with you.

[Damaris]

How would you break it to your friend, who is very sensitive? Your friend that is very close, she wants to have a baby with the person she's with, but the person she's with is a bum.

[Mall]

And this is my homegirl, but she.

[Damaris]

Don'T see him as a bum. But the world know he's a bum, but she don't see him as a bum. How do you politely tell? Like, in what way would you at 40, give me this wisdom? Them tell her, hey, this nigga's a bum. How. How would you.

[Mall]

And this is. This is my friend.

[Julian]

Which one? Your friend?

[Damaris]

You're very close friend. Let's say a cousin.

[Mall]

Oh, my cousin, my blood. Oh, it's no cut. You don't put no cut. On it with your family. I'm going to say, yo, who is this? Yo, he's a clown. Yeah. And he's a bum.

[Damaris]

But she stay with him. She love him. So.

[Mall]

So you about to have. You about to have a bum kid, but to have a bum baby. If that's my. If you talk about my cousin, see, I'm more. If this is a friend, I'm kind of more like. Let me tone it down. But if it's my cousin, blood, we grew up.

[Damaris]

What?

[Mall]

That's like my sister. Yo, what is you doing with him? He's a bum.

[Damaris]

So what if you have that whole entire conversation with him with her and she stay with him, then she get.

[Mall]

Everything she got coming to her. She gonna have a. A bum reality. She about to have a bum experience.

[Damaris]

I don't know. Bum ass sim.

[Mall]

Yeah, Like, n. You about to be. Everything is just going to be a problem. It's going to be issues on issues because you with somebody that don't want more, that don't want better, that don't want to elevate. Like, he going to end up. You pulling you down. Now you back in the hood, living in a studio apartment. You would have bum. You got to cut that bum energy, man. Like, that's just. But again, you got to be kind of sensitive when it's just a friend. You don't want to be too harsh. But you said cousin. I'm not putting cut on it with my cousin. No, my cousin get it raw. Pause. Raw uncut. Like, yo, he's a bum. He's a lame. Why are you with him? What's the upside of being with him? Like, what is it?

[Damaris]

Tell me what you love, Sky Jackson.

[Mall]

Tell me what you love about this dude. Tell me what he does for you. Like when you wake up and you look at him and you about to get dressed and go to work, and he's still sleeping, and you come home and he's still sleeping. Like, what does that do for you?

[Damaris]

And then when you come home, he asks to borrow your car.

[Mall]

Yeah, you come home, you borrow your car, you get it back back on E. He in the car with you. When y'all go to the gas station, he don't get out and pump the gas.

[Damaris]

He don't pay for the gas. Don't pump it.

[Mall]

What are you doing with this?

[Julian]

About to live in New Jersey.

[Mall]

You got a kid, you about to give him a baby. You already got a baby with this. You taking care of him. So it's like, you know, that's the Conversation. That's just me, though. I don't. If it's somebody that I love and I care about, I'm just all the way, you know?

[Damaris]

Are you gonna babysit the bum baby while she at work?

[Mall]

I don't watch bums, man.

[Damaris]

Oh, my God.

[Mall]

I don't watch bum kids, man. Your kids are bum. He ain't.

[Julian]

What if you're the God?

[Mall]

No respect. No, this just loud, breaking, dirty.

[Julian]

Don't care about a baby.

[Damaris]

My God.

[Mall]

What you talking about? Like an infant. Oh, if it's an infant, then yeah, but I'm talking about when they get to that age where they don't listen and. And talk back. I get this little. Get him out of here. I know where he headed.

[Damaris]

Get this future little Y N. Yeah, he going.

[Mall]

He two years from getting his first shy. I'm out of here.

[Julian]

Like, only listen to music on the PS3.

[Mall]

Yo, he gr. He going to get his first Nike shy in about two summers. Get him out of my house, man.

[Damaris]

Yeah, so you would be. You wouldn't become a godfather to the bum baby?

[Mall]

Not to no bum baby. Like, if you got a baby with a bum, I don't want to be that godfather.

[Damaris]

But he needs you more than ever, though.

[Mall]

I mean, I'll be around, but we ain't about to go to the. I'm not about to take pictures at the church with this holding this little. I ain't about to do that.

[Julian]

But what if he develops a good left?

[Mall]

Oh, then we could talk. Then we got. Once I hear, yo, he in the park going crazy right now.

[Julian]

Word?

[Mall]

All right, let me go get nephew. You know, when you hear about your homegirl son, like, yo, you know he out there. He gave him 30. Like, he gave him 30. I'm gonna go pick him up this weekend to take him out. Hell, yeah, he gonna be somebody. But until then, get him out of here, man. I'm not watching bum kids.

[Damaris]

That's what I just feel like. Maul. It takes a village. And I feel like the kids that don't really have the most guidance are the ones that you should give guidance to.

[Mall]

Yeah, but Baby D, you gonna learn that some of these muff, we can't save them all. Some of them, we just gonna have to let go. That's just a reality in the community. I grew up, I lived in the same building with some niggas that's doing life in prison for murder right now. And I still. I'm like him. That was my man. That nigga's a stone cold killer. Now, like, both parents had a great. Went to good schools. Like, where did he make that left at? But then when you think back, you like, oh, no, I could see it. I get it now.

[Damaris]

He was always a little off in math class.

[Mall]

He always had that little. Where it's like, yo, it ain't that serious. Yo, calm down. Like, you know that type of energy where it's like, yo, he going crazy. Like, then as they get older, it just becomes more severe. But you can see it, though. But it's always funny when you look back at kids you grew up with, like, yo, what's up with him? Or what's up with her? And people start telling you, it's like, what. Like, how does that. Like, I'm talking about people that in the same building. We all grew up together. And it's like the way that our lives just go different ways is just. To me, it's very interesting. Cause it's like our start was the same. Granted, every household is different and every, you know, know parents or different things like that. But to know that I was, like, shoulder to shoulder as a kid every day, slumber parties and all of that with people that are doing, like, life in prison for, like, triple homicide. It's like, damn, I used to be me and this. Used to share, like, Sega games and like that. Like, he was the coolest kid in the building.

[Damaris]

Was he? But. But when he got mad, was he the. That start going that? Like, when he was.

[Mall]

It wasn't that, but it was. It was like you could see certain things where it's like, yo, you still mad about that? You know what I'm saying? When still holding on to you.

[Julian]

Like, oof. I taught a student like that. Oh, man, that poor kid. I hope he's doing all right.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Julian]

Like, those, though, from Chicago, probably through, like, yes, South. South Chicago. Like, through the most insane tantrums I've ever seen.

[Mall]

And it's like, yo, you can't be that.

[Julian]

There's no way you're this hot over that.

[Mall]

Yeah. Like, it's like, what is going on?

[Julian]

That would tomorrow come back tomorrow. Still hot. The next.

[Mall]

How you go.

[Damaris]

How you go to sleep, wake up, eat breakfast, and you still pissed off.

[Julian]

By some shit, still mad. I'm like, y'all do it.

[Mall]

Let me do that.

[Julian]

I hope that kid the best.

[Mall]

Don't act like you don't. Cause we'll have a. How much time we got left, Peach? We'll have a whole conversation here about how you do the same shit. You done went to bed Hotter than a nigga woke up and was hot. Still feet burning.

[Damaris]

But the rage.

[Mall]

The top of your ear.

[Damaris]

I might have still been pissed off, but the rage part is not still. Like, when I'm in the rage part, I can't go to sleep until I release the rage. Do you. You see what I'm saying? Like, what is your release?

[Mall]

Like, how do you release?

[Julian]

Take a shit it.

[Damaris]

I go. Sometimes I go to the park and scream.

[Mall]

You do that?

[Damaris]

Yeah, I'm a big screamer.

[Mall]

Pause.

[Julian]

You know how nice.

[Mall]

You can't pause that. You're a woman. You're supposed to scream. You know how crazy it is to actually leave your house and be like, I'm going to walk to the park and scream.

[Julian]

You do? Like, what if there's kids around?

[Damaris]

I had to learn to do that when I was living with. Obviously, I was living with my parents, and I didn't want them to know anything was wrong with me. And then in school, I didn't want to look crazy. And then now I live below. Told my best friend if I start screaming, she gonna come downstairs. Like, is you okay? So, yeah, I just leave the house.

[Mall]

Something that you scream at, though? Yeah. Yeah. What makes you scream?

[Damaris]

Y'all done made me scream before me.

[Mall]

Real me. Yeah, him, Me, Him.

[Julian]

Them, too.

[Damaris]

When I say you, I mean that in, like, agreeance. Like, I. Like, it ain't just one or the other y'all have, but I want to know.

[Mall]

I want to know, like, what's something that got you to that? Like, I'm about to scream.

[Julian]

Scream.

[Mall]

When is it because you feel like you're not being heard?

[Damaris]

Yeah, I don't listen sometimes.

[Mall]

Okay, so you feel like you're not being heard?

[Damaris]

Yeah, y'all don't. Y'all don't. Y'all don't listen. Like, I'll go to talk and, like, I'll be like, yeah. And it'll just be like, on their phone. I'm just like, oh, okay, I'll go myself. Don't worry about it. It's like.

[Mall]

So that makes you want to.

[Julian]

But is that worth screaming?

[Damaris]

If it happens repeatedly in the. Over the course of three years? Yes. That's something that will make you see, baby.

[Mall]

Do you got that in you? You got that. You could be on snapped. You could be on season.

[Damaris]

I know I could be on snap. That's why I'm very good with my anger management. Like, I drink tea. I know how to breathe properly. Like, I breathe myself through a lot of things. I write in my journal. I Call my friends. I'm very communicative. I talk. I talk about my feelings because I know when I bottle them up, I'm liable to explode. And it's never on the person I'm supposed to explode on. Like, my explosions happen at the most inopportune times, so I feel like that's anger management.

[Mall]

All right, well, good. I'm glad you can.

[Damaris]

You should try screaming, Ma.

[Mall]

Me?

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Mall]

No, I don't need to scream.

[Julian]

What about a rage room? I've always wanted to do that. Not to get out anger, just to, like, do it.

[Mall]

Just.

[Damaris]

Just be destructive.

[Julian]

I want to, like. Yeah, hit up.

[Mall]

New York City's a rage room. You just go.

[Damaris]

You could go out on the street during trash night and just take a.

[Mall]

Bat and just make sure there's no people around.

[Julian]

I'll get shot doing something like that. I'm not doing that anymore.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

SZA coming up with a new album.

[Mall]

SZA Scissor is. She's. She's dropping a new album line.

[Julian]

Allegedly.

[Mall]

Allegedly. It says it's. It comes from a more beautiful place. So coming off of her. Well, I think she had a classic album, her last album. Love that album. Damn. We had a great time in Seattle.

[Julian]

When that album dropped, and that was so good. So.

[Mall]

Yeah. Scissors putting out a. She didn't give us a date, though.

[Julian]

She said it's supposedly this half of.

[Mall]

The year, like, 24.

[Julian]

She did an interview with British Vogue. Yeah. She said, I think I'm making music from a more beautiful place. From a possible place. From a possible pos. From a more positive. That's a typo. Positive place versus a more angsty place. What's a typo? That wasn't my fault, but she said it's going to be like. Allegedly, she's putting out a deluxe to SOS and a new album. Lana.

[Mall]

Okay, well, anytime Sizzle put out new music or says she's put out new music, I mean, we. We support her, we love her, so we looking forward to that, especially coming off of that. Yeah, we need that SOS Album. Album.

[Damaris]

We gotta find a hate before that.

[Mall]

Come out, since it DM me a few weeks ago.

[Julian]

Okay.

[Damaris]

Oh, saying what?

[Julian]

Pull it up.

[Mall]

You know, talking about pull it up. The battle and all that.

[Damaris]

Oh, yeah, she said, yeah, it's a big tde.

[Mall]

Not in those words. Not. Not in those words. But, yeah, we had a cool conversation.

[Julian]

She.

[Mall]

She's cool. She. She helped. She. The conversation felt like, first of all, she led with. With. She respects me and she. She supports me and has followed me throughout the year. So that was very like, whoa, okay, dope. I appreciate that. So she started with that. Oh, and then, you know, she dropped the. But. But it was. It was a fun conversation. We.

[Julian]

We.

[Mall]

We had a good conversation.

[Damaris]

Did she say tell Rory high or. No, she don't with him?

[Mall]

No, she didn't say tell Rory hi.

[Damaris]

Oh, okay.

[Mall]

She didn't say she don't with him, but she didn't say, tell him. Tell him hi. But she, you know, she. She gave me her opinion and her stance on certain things throughout that whole battle.

[Julian]

And then do they align with yours?

[Mall]

Obviously, certain things, she understood where I was coming from. Certain things she understood where I was coming from. But it was one thing in particular, I think I had said when she DM me that she was more so. Oh, it was. She was telling me that she was hurt because she was like, yo, I. You know, I didn't even want to send this message to you because I really. I like you. I. With you. She was like, but. But it would hurt me to hear you say that you weren't gonna watch the super bowl because Kendrick was performing. And I laughed. I was like, yo, you think that I'm serious when I said that? Like, of course I'm gonna watch the Super Bowl. Like, who's. I have to watch it. I have to talk about it. You know what I mean? So that was her reasoning. Like, she really thought that I was serious about that. And she said that. That kind of like, damn, you really, like. Like, you're not gonna even watch the super bowl, but, like, you. That. And I was like, no, it's not that serious. I was definitely just talking. So that's what the conversation was about. And then we just started talking about a bunch of other.

[Damaris]

I think. I think a lot of us, especially you, though. I think sometimes you say things sarcastically, but you're just very good at doing it. And people really believe that you believe what you're saying.

[Mall]

If anybody believes that I'm not watching the super bowl, like, come on, look, you know what I do for a living. I have to watch that.

[Julian]

Well, if Sza wants to make sure you're watching it, you're more than welcome to join our watch party. We'll have ma with us. So SZA come to our watch party. Party.

[Mall]

Yeah, I can promise you S is not coming to.

[Julian]

She's more than welcome.

[Mall]

She's more than welcome. She's more than welcome. Whoever else. Megan, all.

[Julian]

All come, Meg, make sure mall's watching.

[Mall]

Yeah, I got just make sure I'm watching.

[Julian]

Make sure that send you the address.

[Damaris]

You gonna get him lying.

[Julian]

We'll be there.

[Mall]

Who's but yeah. Shout out to Sizza, man. Looking forward to her new album. Definitely want to hear the she talking about because s got some on her mind. She gonna sing about it, that's for sure. Sure.

[Damaris]

Since I got a song I'm going submit to you, just let me know where to send it.

[Mall]

Oh, scissor.

[Damaris]

Please don't, cuz I'm a really good songwriter.

[Mall]

What songs have you written? Damaris.

[Julian]

Read them.

[Mall]

Go ahead, sing them.

[Julian]

You don't even have to sing it. Just read the lyrics.

[Damaris]

I'm not. I'm not doing that so y'all can laugh.

[Mall]

Let me tell you one thing that friends do. It could be the most amazing song ever. I'm still going to lie.

[Damaris]

Exactly. And that's why I'm not going to read it.

[Mall]

That doesn't mean that don't put it.

[Damaris]

Out on our discord and our patreon. And you've heard some of my songs. Where lives when we've done our lives. I've read some of my songs and poetry.

[Mall]

All I know is Derek. You're not gonna like Derek.

[Damaris]

You can't rhyme. I'm gonna do it for Darnell. Because my best thing at the time. Yeah.

[Mall]

Oh, that was a ball.

[Damaris]

I know the whole.

[Mall]

That was a ball.

[Julian]

I mean, you wrote it.

[Damaris]

When I'm done, I'm lee ass silent like a mime.

[Mall]

Okay.

[Damaris]

Follow my rules. So I call your little ass son. I ain't going hard. You ain't worth this. I'm gonna send you back to the store like a purchase. I had bars and I was like, 14, bro. I'm just saying, if I'd have kept going, I'd have been Meg.

[Julian]

Oh, man.

[Mall]

All right, yo, you know how funny that is. If I would have kept going, I would have been Meg. That's like me going to the pocket and one jump shot like, yo, if I'd have kept going, I'd have been Mike.

[Julian]

If she can say that I can hit a home run.

[Mall]

Yankee Stadium, 100%.

[Damaris]

No.

[Mall]

Same.

[Julian]

No, but I can actually hit the home run. That's the difference.

[Damaris]

Meg started out rapping on YouTube. I feel like if I would have kept going, I could have been back.

[Mall]

Yo, the funny thing about Julian thinking he could hit a home run out of.

[Julian]

Oh, my God.

[Mall]

You can hit that as hard as you want that to be. A pop fly to, like, left field ain't going over no wall, man.

[Julian]

With a wood aluminum bat.

[Mall]

You not.

[Julian]

Aluminum bat is a pinging off the bat.

[Mall]

You're not hitting that over the fence. I'm not, bro.

[Damaris]

You. You. You didn't even run in marathon. You just like, jogged along with beer for your friends and you had to take Advil and pop. Icy Hot.

[Julian]

Swinging the bat is different, though.

[Mall]

Yeah, it's. It's a lot more excruciating on the body, I guess.

[Julian]

Give me.

[Mall]

We talking about a home run. Not just a base hit, a home run.

[Damaris]

The professionals don't be hitting home runs, junior.

[Julian]

They doing it in a game. I'm talking about, like, soft pitch.

[Mall]

Soft pitch. Lob it to you.

[Julian]

Yeah. I'm not saying put sh up there and I'm going to hit a home run.

[Mall]

You know who. You know who I think hit a home run? And I was. I was very impressed when they. They. It was like a celebrity game. Jerry Lorenzo from Fear of God. Like, he had hit a. But I think he used to play. His dad was. Would play baseball. I think his dad. It was a. Was a manager in baseball as well. But I think he hit a home run at the celebrity game, like. And I was like, that was impressive to me. I was like, what the f. That's not an easy thing to do. Like hitting it over the wall. That's not an easy thing to do. That's not easy at all. But yeah, Jerry. I think Jerry did that in the celebrity game. And I was like, that was very impressive because that's not something you see. Like you make clothes. You ain't no baseball. How the. You hitting over the wall. But yeah, I don't think you could do it, though, Julie. I'm. I'mma go. I'm. I'mma down that hill.

[Julian]

All right, well, then Meg the Stallion over here get a Grammy. I mean, she can going to get a Grammy next year.

[Mall]

Yeah, I mean, listen, I'm just.

[Damaris]

I'm saying if I would have started 10 years ago.

[Julian]

You did start 10 years ago, baby.

[Mall]

Do you know you could. You could rap right now, put an album out and be nominated at the Grammys next year.

[Damaris]

I'm not going to go get a BBL and twerk, though, so you don't have to. Yeah, you do.

[Mall]

Why don't you don't got no bbo.

[Damaris]

Yes, she does.

[Mall]

Do has a. Has work.

[Julian]

Yeah, she does.

[Damaris]

Yes, she does. Yes. Do's butt is fake. She's come out on interviews and said that it's fake. Yes.

[Mall]

I never knew that.

[Damaris]

Thank you. Even doi.

[Mall]

Shout out to that I didn't want to talk too much about the Grammy nominations away from my boy to get back so he could. I know he has a thing or two to say about some of the nominees, but it was dope to see Dochi nominated for a Grammy. Miami. Yes.

[Damaris]

I love that for her.

[Mall]

Shout out to Dochi. Congrats on that. We'll save it because I got some. There's some people nominated for some things. I'm just like, all right, man.

[Julian]

Oh, damn. We never even had that.

[Mall]

I don't know.

[Damaris]

TMZ talking about J. Cole being nominated.

[Mall]

Yeah. I just don't. Not even not to J. Because they. People swear. I hate J. Cole. I don't, but we'll talk about it.

[Damaris]

You ready for voicemails?

[Mall]

Do we have some?

[Julian]

Born ready.

[Mall]

Let's do it. You've got mail.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

The you be born to do is just crazy. I was born to be a writer. I was born ready. Voicemails.

[Julian]

Born, right. I was Lance Stevenson's nickname. High school. That's a great nickname.

[Mall]

Definitely.

[Caller]

Yo, what's the word, gang? It's C.J. from Texas. I've called before, but I got a whole new scenario that just happened this weekend that I kind of need y'all to pin on.

[Mall]

So, boom.

[Caller]

Me and gang outside, we about five deep, you know what I'm saying? We at the clubs, and it's let out, so. So what that mean? It's pop time. It's parking lot pimping, so we going around, you know what I'm saying? Approaching, walking down, getting our little 1v1s, our 2v2s off, getting our numbers up. We happen to see a group of women that we've dealt with in the past, and they see us, so they come over and we chopping it up, and you know what I mean, they ask us what we doing after this. We say, we on. What y'all on? So they like, all right, yeah, cool. Come back to the crib. We got bottles, and there we gonna turn up.

[Mall]

All right, bet.

[Caller]

But one of the girls say, just don't bring your homeboy Mac. Now, I know my Matt can be on some scared of ho sometimes, but I'm like, damn. Like, my Matt can't pull up.

[Mall]

She dead.

[Caller]

So, all right. I told my Mac, you know what I'm saying? Hey, the ho say, you can't come. We're gonna go ahead and make this little move. Long story short, we go over there, you know what I'm saying, and complete the mission. Had a good night. But my nigga Mack was mad at the whole squad the next day.

[Mall]

Now.

[Caller]

Now, in my opinion, it's plenty of fish out in this sea, so you can go ahead and try to find you something, you know what I'm saying, for the night, get you a little cuddle session or whatever it is, right? But he was mad at us. Now, question number one is, are we wrong? And number two, have y'all ever been in a position where you had to tell your homeboy, like, hey, ho, so you can't come?

[Mall]

Well, let me start by saying this from my experience again, I'm a little older. If the person is mad that the women said they don't want him there, and y'all went ahead and still went and linked up with the ladies and had a good night, and they mad that nigga's a hater. Because any of your homies, they gonna laugh at it. They're gonna be like, damn, why they want me to come? Like, yo, nah, they said you'd be wilding. You'd be scaring the ladies. They be getting scared. You'd be doing too much, a real friend, and be like, all right, cool. Y'all go ahead. Have a great night. Hit me like, whatever, whatever. And then you go home and you figure out, like, damn, I'm scared. Like, the women, like, I can't be acting like that. I gotta change. I gotta switch up. Like, I. I don't want to be the one that's left out of the. You know, the night where the girls, like, we going back and hanging out with them, and they like, nah, he be tripping, like. So if he's mad about that, you gotta look deep into that friendship with homie because he's the one that's. He'll. He want the whole. If he can't get none, none of the homies can't have fun. You don't want to be around friends like that. That's. That's. That's just an early sign of somebody. That's. This is a hater. From my experience.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Mall]

I'm just always only speaking from my point of view. A person like that, that's just the. The tip of the iceberg. That nigga's a hater. I'm surprised Mac ain't show up. Yeah, shut the whole down.

[Damaris]

But it. But. But that's the thing, Ma. A man like that, like, if you taking context clues, why would he go back? A man that's scaring the hoes. That so? You scaring the holes so much. The holes that you can't be Around. You think a nigga like that gonna go back and reflect on what he possibly could have did? But no, he ain't that type of nigga. He's a scare the hoes kind of nigga. He gonna scare his friends, too.

[Mall]

Yeah, but. And you might be right. He might be that type of person. But it's like, you gotta understand that. That energy of him being upset because women said he couldn't come over. Like, couldn't come to the crib. Like, if he's mad at y'all for going, he's a hater. He's supposed to be happy. Laugh at it. Like, damn, my baby. I was tripping last time we hung out with them. I can understand why they don't want me there. But you can't be mad at the homies for. For going to complete the mission and have a great night with some women. Like, that's the whole point of going outside. We going to the club to meet women and have a good time.

[Damaris]

Well, he probably don't come into contact with women unless his homeboys is bringing them around anyway.

[Julian]

That's true.

[Mall]

Yeah, but that's. You need to leave that pit bull in the fucking. Leave him in the house. If you don't know how to act around women, you can't hang out with me, homeboy or not.

[Julian]

The second part is he obviously was offended and made a big stink about it the next day. How do you talk to him?

[Mall]

You had that conversation like, bro, a big st. Bigs. Don't ever tell me a had a big sting. Now have that talk with your friend. Like, let him know, like, yo, bro, like, you got to chill. Like, we be going out and you know, the women, you too aggressive. You too. You keep pulling your gun out. Like, yeah, the women don't want to see that. You scaring them. Like, you supposed to have fun, crack some jokes, you know, be respectful. But we going to have a good time. Like, if he don't. If he can't. If your friend is not receptive to that type of conversation, cut your losses now, because he's gonna end y'all up in a bad position.

[Julian]

When people say this is to directly you. When girls say, this is scare the hose type energy. I know, like, the. The thing that comes to mind is like the. The like, gangster with the gun, all that. But, like, what's like a normal guy version of that? You know what I mean? Like, what's the energy that they give off that makes the women be like, no, not someone that's like, yo, I Got a gun. Or like, yo, I'm like, punch someone.

[Mall]

He's standing by the bathroom door when she go in there.

[Julian]

So it's just like the lingerer, you.

[Damaris]

Know that it's multiple things. Like, it's scaring the hoes is easier than y'all think. Like, it's easier than y'all think. And it's multiple things. Different things. Different is scary to different women, if I'm thinking about.

[Julian]

Yeah, it's easy.

[Mall]

Scan the hose.

[Damaris]

Oh, so easy.

[Julian]

Oh, it's so easy.

[Damaris]

Baby.

[Mall]

You were scared just now.

[Damaris]

No breath was hot as. No, I was taking it back.

[Mall]

I was taking it back.

[Damaris]

No, but if I say, like, me, let's say me, Kellen Naya rocks. Like, okay, we're out, right? We're all beautiful. Like, we're out. Dudes that scared of hoes. Like, dudes that's too aggressive. Like, they're too, like. Like, just. They're too in your face and too aggressive and like. Or like, if we're someplace with loud music and you keep trying to talk to me, like, and you're making it a thing, and I'm obviously kind of, like, not, you know, like, not giving you play, not paying attention.

[Mall]

Keep asking you, why you acting shy?

[Damaris]

Yeah, shit like that. Yo, why you ain't smiling?

[Julian]

Oh, God, that's disgusting.

[Damaris]

Or a nigga that's like. Like, too.

[Mall]

Like, why are you sitting so far away from me?

[Damaris]

Yes, that's too masculine. Like, you're too masculine, but not in the way that we like you to be masculine.

[Mall]

Right?

[Damaris]

So the way we like you to be masculine is you're. When you're out with a group of girls and it's only, like, one or two guys, and it's like, you got a whole bunch of beautiful women with you, you go in, you make sure that we're comfortable. You make sure that we're good, and, like, we're going to have a good night. We're going to talk to you, we're going to dance, whatever. But if you come on, like, some, like, you too aggressive with the flashing and the money, or like, you're aggressive with the server or the bottle girl, or you just trying to assert yourself to prove that you're masculine and you're manly, but it just shows that you're really not. You're really insecure. Why are you yelling at the. At the server? Why are you arguing with the bar back? Like, why you trying to. You know, you trying to fight with the dudes next to us, and you just. It's A pissing contest. That's scaring the hoes, too.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Julian]

This is what I always think of when I hear of scaring the hoes. This meme.

[Damaris]

Oh, my God. God. Terrifying the hoes.

[Julian]

I love this photo so much. It's so funny.

[Mall]

It's so crazy how photos could be taken out of context, obviously, and the narratives that could be created around just a simple photo like that is.

[Damaris]

Cuz ain't nothing she ever said in her life that funny. Promise you, but that's what I'm saying.

[Mall]

I look at this, I don't feel like she said anything. I feel like he said something. And her. Her. That's her reaction to it. Like, oh, my God.

[Julian]

The lighting is just. Everything about this is perfect. Perfect. It's the Drake yelling in Rihanna's face.

[Mall]

Photo.

[Julian]

If you guys are. If you're just an audio listener. It is one of my favorite memes of all time.

[Mall]

That is so funny how photos could just.

[Julian]

I think. I think a lot of men, to your point, that just want to be, like, over aggressive and dominant. Like, I think there's a lot of. At least from my experience, like, women like the mysticism of, like, filling in gaps themselves. So if you don't say, that goes a long way.

[Damaris]

Yeah. You save yourself.

[Julian]

Just shut up and just hang out and don't be a nuisance. I think a lot of guys feel like they need to be, like, the man of the group. Like, the guy that talks the most. The guy that, like, does this.

[Damaris]

They're trying so hard to be the group leader, but that's not you being the group leader. Yeah, like, when they had that group leader conversation on Twitter, it's like, I can spot the group leader and it's never the. That's the loudest. Like, why are you so loud? Like, you're not, you know.

[Mall]

If you had the ability to hear somebody's thoughts while y'all were having sex, would you want to.

[Damaris]

No. No.

[Mall]

Why?

[Damaris]

New I'm good. Because I've. I've loved some people, like, with my entire heart, my entire being. I would give everything for them and still thought some while we were having sex that would hurt their feelings.

[Julian]

Yeah. I think I'd be thinking about the Knicks when I'm.

[Damaris]

That's because you're detached from sex and you need therapy.

[Mall]

Well, I thought that was. I was about to say that's because he's something else.

[Julian]

How is that gay?

[Damaris]

You got in front of you and you think about men sweating, running up.

[Mall]

And down, thinking about them. You think about Cats on the post.

[Julian]

I'm thinking we're a 500. It's not.

[Damaris]

No, the thing about the. The Knicks, while he's having sex with me, like, I'm gonna feel like my vagina is literally, like, the worst.

[Julian]

I think you'd be surprised what guys think about while they're.

[Mall]

All right, but what's something you thought about while you was having sex?

[Damaris]

There's this one man that I love very, very much, and this thought it was someone else years ago and whatever. He just doesn't give good head. So he be down there, like, really trying, and it's just like.

[Julian]

Like be slamming his nose in it.

[Damaris]

Not even doing that. It's just like, he just. He don't got it. And it's just. I just be like, hurry up and just get. Because I don't want to make him stop. But it's like, I just want you to herp. And get it over with. Because if he was a guy that I didn't care about, I would just, like, literally, just like.

[Julian]

But then what would you think about while he's doing that? Like an Amazon wish list. Like, what are you thinking about?

[Damaris]

I'm just thinking about just. You need. I'm like, rolling my eyes.

[Julian]

Oh.

[Mall]

Oh, my God.

[Julian]

Damn. That's.

[Damaris]

Luckily. Luckily it was in the dark, but I'm just like, oh, please, girl.

[Mall]

Rolling her. But then see a. It's full of his. Like, her eyes rolling in the back of her head like, o. I'm killing this. Like, she ain't never leaving me. I made that eyes roll to the back of her head like, nah, f. That's not what she was doing, bro.

[Damaris]

Like, it's just like. And then I got a fake moan, and I be. I'll be thinking about how the fake moan sounds, like, if it sounds realistic. Like, I'd be trying out different tones in a fake mo.

[Mall]

I think I. I don't know.

[Damaris]

I only did that because I loved him.

[Mall]

I don't know if I would want to know, but sometimes I think with certain women, I would want to know what they was thinking. I think with certain women.

[Damaris]

Why would you want to know? Because you were. You're worried about what they possibly were thinking?

[Mall]

No, I think it's just. I just. I would just like to know their thoughts. That's all. Like, certain women, I just want to know what they was thinking about.

[Damaris]

You want to know if they think it was as good as you thought it was?

[Mall]

It's not even about it being as good. I'm not even. I Just want to know what they're thinking about. You know what I'm saying? It's not like, yo, am I doing a good job? That's not my. That's not what I'm thinking about. I just want to know what they're thinking. Like, that's just. To me, I just want to know what their thoughts are now, that moment. But not like a set. Not as like, am I doing a good job? Is she about to come? Is she enjoying it? Is she. It's not. I don't. That's not what I'm thinking about. I just want to know, like, what exactly are you thinking about right now?

[Damaris]

Yeah. And if you're not vocal, then I feel like I don't know what you're thinking. And that worries me. I need you to be vocal.

[Mall]

You like to talk.

[Damaris]

I gotta hear. I gotta hear. Let me hear you.

[Mall]

Otherwise, because this is interesting because you, because you, you date women and men. Would you want to hear the woman's thoughts or the man's thought?

[Damaris]

Oh, I don't know which one would be worse? I don't know which one will be worse.

[Mall]

Now we get into some.

[Damaris]

Oh, I don't know which one.

[Mall]

Yeah, worse.

[Julian]

Woman's would have to be worse.

[Damaris]

Yeah, I'd rather know the men's than the woman's.

[Mall]

Really? That's because you know what y'all be thinking.

[Damaris]

Women are mean.

[Mall]

I know.

[Damaris]

And very, like, crass in our heads. But we're trained to not be like that. That unless we're on an all male podcast. So we're training.

[Mall]

You heard, you heard Julian's thoughts. The Knicks, right?

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Mall]

You see how, man, I'm still thinking.

[Julian]

About the Knicks right now?

[Mall]

The Knicks, right.

[Damaris]

Probably be looking at like, her eyeliner creasing. Her mascara is so cheap. Like, oh, my gosh, she missing an edge.

[Julian]

We just lost to the Bulls, bro. I'm pissed. We're a 500 team.

[Damaris]

I'd rather that.

[Julian]

It's so embarrassing.

[Mall]

You rather him be thinking about the bull?

[Damaris]

Yes. A girl will look at you like, oh, I didn't know her eye, like, was lazy or some shit like that.

[Mall]

Her track is showing.

[Damaris]

Yeah, like, oh, no, I'm good. I am.

[Mall]

Baby, do you definitely ate a girl out in your track was showing before? Probably, definitely.

[Julian]

Probably.

[Damaris]

A girl definitely ate me out and her track was showing. I didn't give a rat size.

[Julian]

Ooh, track for track.

[Damaris]

I didn't give one fifth of a flat.

[Mall]

Y'all was running out of candy chefs.

[Damaris]

Track for track.

[Mall]

Conductor.

[Julian]

Conductor.

[Damaris]

I Ain't give a damn. I. I know one time my lace was showing real bad.

[Mall]

The marriage was like, conductor. Okay. That you're tracking. Show it that. That is hilarious. We got another voicemail.

[Julian]

Oh, yeah. So this guy, what do we. The friend. Keep him away from all the women, you know, Right?

[Mall]

Yeah. Please do.

[Julian]

Yeah. That's the advice. Okay.

[Mall]

Yes. Very simple.

[Rory]

What's up, y'all? I'm calling from Chicago, and I just got this brief scenario before I get to my question. So yesterday I was in my car having my music on shuffle playing, and Somewhere in America by Jay Z came on.

[Julian]

And I was made it in America, not somewhere.

[Rory]

It's like, man, Magna Carta Holy Grail was ass. And, you know, growing up, I'm 27 years old, my parents are R B heads, so I didn't really get the chance to listen to a lot of rap, hip hop, and all that until I got to about, like, 11, 12 when I started to find my own music. And then a couple years later, that's when Magna Carta Holy Grail dropped. So that was my first introduction to Jay Z. And back then, people, I was like, this is ass and now this is ass. So that kind of like, up with my, like, perception on Jay Z, and I can't really like with his music outside of the hits like, Big Pimping and other shit like that. So I was calling to see or hear your thoughts or opinions. Like, is there an album or an artist that dropped, a project that's critically acclaimed by a lot of people? Or this artist artist is like, real notorious for being like, one of the best out or whatever it may be. And, you know, your first introduction to them was just like, ass music. And you just really can't with them. You haven't been able to with them since. Who's that person? Like, I can only imagine. Just to get y'all into some more dream girl trouble. Like, imagine KOD being the first time introduction to J. Cole. Like, that would be wild as hell.

[Mall]

That's interesting. That's an interesting question.

[Julian]

So he thinks Jay Z's trash because he heard Magna Carta Holy Grail, which.

[Damaris]

Is still better than every album his favorite rapper ever released.

[Mall]

But that is. But it's interesting because the way he phrased it, like, if you do meet this artist at this particular album, that to people that have been following that artist for years all agree, like, that might be his worst album. And if that's your introduction album to that artist, I could see how. But just go back and listen to Other music. Like, other songs? Yeah. Like, that's my thing. Like, I'm not gonna act like nothing before this album. Like, if I listen to artists and this is my first time hearing this artist and I've done that, like, people put me on the artist. I'm like, okay. Like, you know, you go on whatever platform, you can see other albums, other EPs, other songs. I just started listening. I'm like, oh, this person is dope. I may not like the original song, song that I was introduced to the artist by, but you get to sifting and going through their catalog, though. No, this person is. Is dope. I don't know what artists that I could say I've experienced that with, though, where, like, I was introduced to them and heard their music and was like, this is terrible. I'm never gonna listen again. Like, I would always go through other songs, through other albums, through other. Like, I'm not gonna just listen to that and act like other songs don't exist from that person. Like, that's just weird to me.

[Damaris]

It's what it sounds like to me. And this is no shade to you, young man from Chicago. It sounds like some people go into some things thinking that people are overrated, and then when they get that confirmation bias of, aha, I knew he was overrated. They're not really trying to do the research to prove themselves wrong. And I think that's what it sounds like to me. Like, you heard all the hype around Jay Z. You went to this album, was like, oh, this trash. I knew y'all was hyping this up and then never went back all the hype.

[Julian]

He was like 10 when he first heard Jay Z, he was like, 10, 11 when Magna Carta came out out. So I doubt that was like. I doubt he was like, jay Z's the goat at like, 10.

[Damaris]

But everybody, Jay Z, if you the first. If you go to hip hop, who people are going to tell you who the goat is, especially at the time that Magna Carta came out, was Jay Z. That's who people were going to say that the go. Who were people. Who was people saying were to go in Magna Carter came out and when.

[Julian]

Like, 2012, 13, something like that.

[Damaris]

Yeah. So who were people saying was the greatest rapper of all time at that. That time?

[Julian]

Well, he's from Chicago. Kanye's name was probably in there. That's around the time Yeezus came out.

[Damaris]

2013 has ever said that Kanye was the greatest rapper of all time.

[Mall]

You're not greatest rapper. You're one of the Greatest artists.

[Damaris]

They've never said he was the greatest rapper.

[Mall]

Nobody ever said Kanye was the greatest rapper.

[Damaris]

When people were. Were having the top five list and all that, when it came to rappers, Kanye was not cracking the top three ever. That was not hap. That was not a thing that was happening.

[Mall]

Kanye's not one of the greatest rappers. He's one of the greatest artists.

[Damaris]

He's a lot of people's favorite, which is different. But when people favorite.

[Mall]

And the greatest is different, when people.

[Damaris]

Are bringing up the nazes, the Jay Z's, you. If he was to say that Lil Wayne got tossed in that conversation, he did. Whether you believe that he des. Whether you believe he deserves to be there or not, Wayne was tossed in that arena. Kanye was never that guy. That.

[Mall]

But that's how I feel about. I believe it's a difference between favorite, your personal favorite, and greatest. I think greatest is more. More in stone.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Mall]

Like The Michael Jordan, LeBron debate. You can. LeBron could be your favorite basketball player of all time. But when you start talking about the greatest, we can go to what's already. We can look at the numbers, the accolades, the performance, the things that Mike did that still no other player in this era where it's more offensively friendly still has not averaged with Mike Arist in a more defensive end era.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Mall]

So when you look at things like that, like, that's what makes Mike through every era, as Tom goes on it. And I love the fact that Jordan hates when people do that because he's like, errors are different. The game, style, play, everything is different. Like, I don't think that I'm better than guys before me, and I don't think that I'm better than guys after me. I think that in my time, if you want to say I'm the greatest, I'll. I'll accept that. But I do think that with artists, you can say, yo, that's my favorite. That's my favorite. Cool. Great. That's. It's subjective. But when you start talking about greatest, that speaks to longevity, that speaks to consistency, that speaks to body of work. That speaks to a lot of different things that you have to start looking at to make that definitive statement of greatest. Kanye, not the greatest rapper. Now we wanna say greatest artist. Cause artist means a lot of different things. He creates clothes, he creates music, he creates. You know, he's done a lot of things in the community, things like that. Like, it's different things that speak to the greatest. Favorite is just something that you like. Oh, I like that album. My favorite album ever. That's my favorite artist, my favorite rapper.

[Julian]

Yeah, I think he brings up an interesting point though, this. This caller, because he was saying like, it's weird because I feel like, definitely mall. Because you've seen like most of hip hop happen, like the releases. Like, your entry is just like the careers of these guys. Ours is a little delayed, but still mostly like the majority of these guys careers. I'm trying to think like, who is. And he gave the example, like KOD for Cole. Like, what would be a dud album for an artist that you love? Where if that was your first time hearing them, you'd be like, eh, I don't get it. Or like, I'm not on get the Hype. I'm trying to think like, who do I love that put out a dud.

[Mall]

Yeah, you love Lil Wayne.

[Julian]

Okay, well, yeah, fine, sure. For the sake of the conversation, if I heard Rebirth as my first Wayne album, I would be like, ew.

[Damaris]

If you heard this guy, Wisconsin album or Wyoming album.

[Julian]

God.

[Damaris]

Which I actually like that album. But if you heard his Wyoming album, you would not become. Have become a Kanye fan.

[Julian]

That Yay album. Yeah, that was mid.

[Mall]

As it happens. Like, I mean, but that speaks to. We can go through every great artist ever and name an album that we was like, I can name a Michael Jackson out when I was like, I don't know what Mike was doing with this one.

[Damaris]

This.

[Mall]

I don't even know if Mike was in the studio when they did this. Like, you know, you can go to that. But that still doesn't take away Thriller. That still doesn't take away off the Wall. That still doesn't take away. You know what I'm saying?

[Damaris]

Like, it's like every Michael Jackson album ever.

[Mall]

Dangerous. You know, I'm saying, like, you don't like, that's just like, come on. Like, this is. This is Mike.

[Julian]

We talk like 50 Cent has no. Undoubtedly some of the best albums ever. But like, I'm trying to. Like, if your entry point was.

[Mall]

Yeah, if your entry point is Animal Ambition.

[Julian]

You like. Yeah. Which to our caller, that would have been his first 50 album.

[Damaris]

Which.

[Mall]

Right.

[Julian]

Which if he's hearing that as a kid in Chicago, he'd be like.

[Mall]

And he never heard Get Rich. Yeah, he never heard Get Rich or Die Trying or the Massacre. It's like, you gotta go back and like, listen to that and then understand what I'm talking about. Yeah, it happens. It's, you know, time. Time passes and our favorite artists or the greatest artists, you know, they're not gonna be great forever. But it's like go to when they like hit that moment where it was like, yo, this is a great project.

[Damaris]

If you wanted to introduce somebody to Jay Z, would which album what you told them to. To go to. Like if you wanted something that aged well today that you think that let's say a 22 year old could relate to at this point, what album would you send them to?

[Mall]

A 22 year old never heard Jay Z before.

[Julian]

I'm sending everybody to Reasonable Doubt.

[Damaris]

I'm sending everybody to the Black Album. Always.

[Mall]

I would send the 22 year old to the Blueprint.

[Julian]

Really?

[Damaris]

We all have different answers.

[Mall]

Yeah. Because I think that sound, the sample and all of that, I think it's more, it's easier, more digestible. Yeah. For people to kind of like be attracted to with all the samples and things like that. Reasonable Doubt obviously is, you know, the album that. It's like this is what a rapper. Like if this, if people know Jay Z now, then they go back and listen to this album, you can kind of say, oh, he was going, he was destined to be. He was talking big, big out the gate.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Mall]

You know what I mean? So. But I think that just like sonically, musically, I think for a 22 year old, the blueprint might be what I say. I would say go listen to first.

[Julian]

Yeah, I get. I mean, I can see why it.

[Mall]

Has more like, you know, more anthems. It's more like, you know, a little.

[Julian]

More friendly for today.

[Mall]

Yeah, that was like ho's like, you know, the album, it was just leaned a little more commercial.

[Julian]

Commercial.

[Mall]

I think because of just the production and the music.

[Julian]

TI Is one of those guys who I could see if your first entry point for a TI Album. Album is like, yeah, I'm trying to even look at. So for our caller, for our caller here, it would probably have been paperwork.

[Damaris]

Which, which is still a good album.

[Julian]

It's okay. But like coming off of Paper Trail, Urban Legend and King, like.

[Mall]

Yeah, go back. Yeah, like you gotta go.

[Damaris]

You gotta go back versus Tip.

[Julian]

Yeah. Like you. I feel like this guy might have been born at like the era of like duds from all of our greats.

[Mall]

Yeah, 2013, that, that time, right. It was a little tricky.

[Damaris]

I mean, tricky music ain't get good again until 2016.

[Julian]

Jesus came out in 13.

[Damaris]

This is a good album though.

[Julian]

Mac Miller Watching Movies came out. I'm trying to think of like good movies that came out that year. Because it, from what we're looking at, doesn't seem like much much Yeezus is.

[Damaris]

My favorite Kanye album.

[Julian]

Really?

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Mall]

Jesus.

[Damaris]

Jesus.

[Mall]

That's interesting.

[Julian]

Nothing was the same.

[Damaris]

Watch the Throne. Watch the Throne. Watch the Throne is actually my favorite Kanye album.

[Mall]

But yeah, I. Whatever album you introduce to an artist as if it's not, you know, their first introduction, if it's not their debut album, I would say go back and listen to previous work. Listen to some, you know, mixtapes and things like that.

[Damaris]

Because a lot of 2013 wasn't bad though. All what you mean Born, we got born Center. I like Magna Carter, Holy Girl. But whatever acid rap stay trippy.

[Mall]

No, I'm not saying it wasn't no good albums that came out, but we got some that came out that was is forgettable for sure.

[Damaris]

Yeah. Long live asap.

[Mall]

Oh obviously Nothing Was the same came.

[Damaris]

Out Nothing was the same was my favorite album.

[Julian]

God, that album is so good.

[Damaris]

It's aging as the classic of Drake's. We all thought it was going to be Take Care Take Care was an instant classic. But nothing was the same in views.

[Julian]

Views.

[Mall]

I think nothing was the same probably as it might be Aging. Aging that. That. That bottle of wine is a little better.

[Julian]

Another one's the same reviews you do nothing the same.

[Damaris]

What's I do Views.

[Julian]

Views is aged like a. Oh my God.

[Damaris]

View sounds better now than it did when it came.

[Mall]

It was a knock that I had on Views though. I think it was.

[Julian]

Was it Grammys. The future record, the one that was clear.

[Mall]

I think my knock on my only knock on that app Views might be Drake's best album.

[Damaris]

I. I'd agree.

[Mall]

I think my only knock on it was. I think that I felt like it was a little. It was too much music. I think I could have did with about maybe you take like. I think it was because I think he had like two dance records on there and I was like we could have just did with one.

[Julian]

Yeah but the dance records are like controller and Too Good.

[Damaris]

Too Good?

[Julian]

Yeah, Too Good.

[Mall]

That song. The fact that 2yo too good is some artist would be some more Most. Most rappers single best song.

[Julian]

It wasn't a single. It was just an album cut.

[Mall]

No, but that's what I'm saying. It's crazy that that Too Good is just sitting on that album and that song would be most artists best song ever. And that's just like an album cut on the album. You see what I'm saying?

[Damaris]

It's like Fire and Desire. Oh my.

[Mall]

You know Views was a great album. I think at the time. I remember I Was like, damn. I would have cut like maybe three or four songs.

[Julian]

This run the feel no ways into. Well, Western Road flows to with you. What the.

[Mall]

You know, just the intro.

[Damaris]

That's my favorite Drake intro. Keep the family closest.

[Mall]

God damn it. We talking about Drake. All right, stop. I won't talk.

[Damaris]

But it's not like. But not in a that kind of way, like at the end of the day.

[Mall]

But I get it. It's. It's definitely. You go back and listen to this album and you're like, you appreciate it.

[Julian]

This is one of them.

[Mall]

Yeah, yeah, I agree. But yeah, go back. Anytime you introduce to an artist, listen to their previous work, you may have caught them and been introduced to them or not their best effort. You know what I mean? Like, if I was introduced to some players on their worst game or worst playoff series, I'd be like, he's trash. He averaged 30 for the season. He's not trash. You know what I'm saying? It's like you got to go back like Ben Simmons. No, no, no.

[Julian]

He's been proving it.

[Mall]

Oh, he's not. I'm not gonna say he's trash. He's an NBA player. But he's.

[Julian]

The other night.

[Mall]

He has a man's making a hundred.

[Julian]

Million plus to be good the other night.

[Mall]

Yeah, that's just. The other night. That's it for the season. That's it. That's just one. This.

[Julian]

What a robbery.

[Mall]

I think it's a mental thing with Ben at this point though.

[Julian]

It has to be.

[Mall]

It's a mental. It's a mental thing. I think that if Ben, he may need to go get a IASA ceremony this off offseason, he might need to do the Ayahuasca.

[Julian]

Something's got to happen.

[Mall]

Cuz it's really ego. It's really him fighting against who people said he was going to be.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Mall]

At this point. And I think if he lets go of that and just plays, I think he would be a much. In a much better conversation. As far as. As far as where he is in the league right now, I think he needs to go strip some of that ego. Like let that go and just go out there and have fun and play ball.

[Damaris]

Has the regular season started?

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

I don't watch basketball, so I'm asking.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Julian]

Yes.

[Damaris]

How are the Knicks doing?

[Julian]

Well, like we said, he's.

[Mall]

He's.

[Julian]

And thinking about Cat talking and thinking about him. We're. We're a 500 team. It's really annoying.

[Mall]

Shout out to Julius Ramsay. Been hooping out there in Minnesota. Oh, I told y'all. I told y'all that was a bad trade. Anybody that's in Minnesota, they agree with me. They watched Cat for years. They know we took the bad end of that deal.

[Julian]

You're a 500 team, too.

[Mall]

It's all right, though.

[Damaris]

You keep saying Cat, but you don't mean Carl Anthony Town.

[Julian]

Yeah, that's who he is. That's who you're talking about.

[Damaris]

I. I thought, oh, no, that's Jordan's boyfriend. I'm thinking about the other. Like, they're all light skinned. Ella, Ma's baby.

[Julian]

Father to Jason Tatum.

[Damaris]

To Jason Tatum. He plays for the Celtics, the green team. Okay. And then Cat. So Cat now plays for the Knicks.

[Julian]

Yes.

[Damaris]

So Cat's ass.

[Julian]

No, he's playing great. We just haven't figured out the.

[Mall]

Locker room is different, style of play is different. You got a whole different play out there. Like, that's the chemistry.

[Julian]

Yeah, they're learning.

[Mall]

That's what people don't count when they talk about teams that being good. You got to keep these players together for some years, let them, you know, get to know each other, hang out with each other on a personal level that translate into gameplay. And people don't understand that. They're just thinking name on the back of the jersey.

[Julian]

Cat's been balling. Actually. He just put up. I'm not saying like 46 and 10 the other night or something like that.

[Mall]

Okay, he's a great player, but I'm just chemistry. See, I don't think. I don't think Julius had as much of an ego as Carl Anthony. I think Call Anthony came in feeling.

[Damaris]

Like he that guy. Like, y'all need me.

[Mall]

I'm the king of the city now.

[Damaris]

So if. If he, if he was, then why would he get traded? Why would they trade him if he was that guy?

[Mall]

Guy who, Julius?

[Damaris]

No, Carl.

[Mall]

Why would Minnesota trade him? Yeah, just what I'm trying to tell you. They feel like they got a. More of a dog when it's time to be in the playoffs and go at these other Western Conference teams. They got more of a dog with Julius Randle.

[Damaris]

Okay. And Carl is expensive. They don't feel like he's worth his dollar.

[Julian]

The Knicks just took on. Yeah, they absorbed his old contract and are paying him more. He's making like 205 million. Something like that's ridiculous.

[Damaris]

Okay.

[Mall]

Great player, though. Yeah. I only want to sound like he's not. He's a great player, but I just think chemistry. I think having that again that Dog in the playoffs. I think that's going to come back to hurt the Knicks. I think they should have kept Julius around when he was healthy, let that team get one more crack at the playoffs, everybody's healthy. And then if it don't work out, then next year you look at kind of shuffling the deck a little bit. But I think that they should have, definitely, because Julius is the guy that turned the franchise around. He got them back to respectable level playoff contention, things like that. Got a shoulder injury last year. The Knicks playing well. They did well in the playoffs without him, and I think that should have.

[Julian]

Beat the damn Pacers.

[Mall]

I feel like that's where they like, oh, we could get rid of them because we play well without him anyway. And that's not always the case, so.

[Damaris]

Okay.

[Mall]

But it is what it is either way. If you're hearing this. When are they hearing this?

[Julian]

Tomorrow.

[Mall]

Oh, we will be in Atlanta. We will be in Atlanta next. Next Friday, the 22nd. Second. November 22nd. We will be in Atlanta. Tickets available [e-mail] and then we'll finish the year out home. Have some fun, have a party, have a blast. December 14th at the Gramercy Theater. Looking forward to seeing everybody having a good time to end out the year. Holiday season. Damn, the holidays is here already. It's crazy. So, yeah, get your tickets now. New rory and mall.com. yeah, man, it's been fun.

[Damaris]

Are you just potting with us?

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Julian]

Minority Report 2. By the way, this is it second installment. I think we should name it, though.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Julian]

Mike Tyson, Jake Paul fight this weekend. Any predictions?

[Mall]

If you're listening tonight.

[Julian]

Tonight. If you're listening, tonight is the fight. I'll be at a watch party.

[Mall]

And if you listen to this, rest in peace, Jake Paul. I won't put that in. Y'all fuck with Jake Paul, but I do have Jake Paul losing, getting knocked out in the second round.

[Julian]

P. Just shaking his head in disagreement.

[Damaris]

Shaking his.

[Julian]

Yeah, I got not my white king.

[Damaris]

Can we go somewhere? Watch this. Watch the fight.

[Mall]

I got Jake Paul getting knocked out in the second round for sure.

[Julian]

I'm watching Friends.

[Mall]

Yeah. All right. Well, we'll talk to y'all soon. Be safe, be blessed. I'm that he's just ginger, but he's not here.

[Damaris]

No warrior now.