Episode 322 | I’m Just A Chill Guy

Summary

Podcast Summary: Episode 322 | I’m Just A Chill Guy

Podcast Information:

• Title: New Rory & MAL
• Host/Authors: iHeartPodcasts and The Volume
• Description: New stories, new laughs, new random hot takes that no one asked for... New Rory & Mal
• Episode: Episode 322 | I’m Just A Chill Guy
• Release Date: November 22, 2024

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1. Introduction to the "Chill Guy" Meme

The episode kicks off with Rory and Mal establishing their laid-back personas, joking about their "chill" nature. Rory mentions, “[00:03] Lucky for us, we're just a bunch of chill,” setting the tone for a relaxed yet humorous discussion.

2. The Origin and Evolution of the "Chill Guy" Meme

Damaris and Julian delve into the origins of the elusive "Chill Guy" meme. They express frustration over not being able to trace its origins, with Damaris questioning, “[03:16] How come we can never find the original tweet?” The hosts speculate that the meme likely began on TikTok before gaining traction on Twitter. Mal remarks, “[03:42] Philip Bank. Pretty much the new Steve Jobs, if you think about it,” referring to the alleged creator, adding a layer of intrigue to the conversation.

Notable Quote:

• Mal: “[03:27] But I feel like that's kind of the original. That's stealing from Kevin James.”

3. Speculations and Stories about Jay Leno's Accident

The conversation takes a dramatic turn as the hosts discuss a recent incident involving Jay Leno. They speculate on the circumstances of his fall at a Hampton Inn, blending humor with sensationalism. Rory questions the plausibility of Leno's injuries, comparing them to cinematic portrayals: “[16:58] The hills have hands.”

Notable Quote:

• Mal: “[16:24] That's because he's a chill guy. I feel like chilling.”

4. J. Cole's New Podcast and Listener Experiences

Transitioning to more contemporary topics, the hosts explore J. Cole's latest podcast, "Inevitable." Mal shares his challenges with accessing the podcast's audio seamlessly, stressing the need for a more user-friendly experience: “[50:05] I have to listen to it on the site, which is tough with my phone.”

Notable Quote:

• Mal: “[52:02] I was not mad that they were charging for it. At the end of the day, it's a dollar per episode.”

5. The Disconnect Between New Fans and Classic Projects

A significant portion of the discussion centers on how new fans engage with artists' earlier works. Damaris and Mal debate whether younger fans are aware of mixtapes and projects released before mainstream success. Mal argues, “[58:47] They don't even know it exists,” highlighting a gap in music discovery.

Notable Quote:

• Mal: “[58:13] José is a large part because we're giving you a tangible thing. You're making something up.”

6. Grammy Nominations and Predictions

The hosts transition into an in-depth analysis of the current Grammy nominations. They dissect categories like Best New Artist, Record of the Year, and Best Rap Album, offering their predictions and critiquing the selection process. Mal suggests, “[67:35] Why can't Cole get nominated for... So why can't CeeLo...</p>”

Notable Quote:

• Mal: “[69:18] But I know it'll go to Not Like Us.”

7. Listener Voicemail Segment: Relationship Dilemmas

In an interactive segment, listeners call in with personal relationship issues. Damaris shares a dilemma about her girlfriend's low libido due to medication, seeking advice on whether to stay committed or pursue other relationships. The hosts, particularly Mal and Rory, provide humorous yet candid feedback, emphasizing the complexities of maintaining relationships under such circumstances.

Notable Quote:

• Damaris: “[91:14] I was a chill guy. Like, that's all my. Was me chilling.”

8. Closing and Promotions

As the episode nears its end, Rory, Mal, and Damaris promote upcoming shows and encourage listeners to subscribe to their Patreon for more exclusive content. They humorously recap their on-stage interactions and tease future discussions, maintaining their signature blend of humor and candidness.

Notable Quote:

• Mal: “[113:38] We're in Atlanta. If you're listening to this, the audio experience.”

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Conclusion:

Episode 322 of New Rory & MAL offers a blend of meme analysis, celebrity anecdotes, music industry insights, and relatable personal dilemmas, all delivered with the hosts' trademark humor and candid banter. From unraveling the mystery behind the "Chill Guy" meme to dissecting Grammy nominations and navigating complex relationship issues, this episode provides a comprehensive and engaging listen for both regular followers and newcomers alike.

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Note: Timestamps in the summary correspond to the transcript provided. However, for brevity and focus, not every minute-long dialogue is included.

Transcript

[Rory]

Lucky for us, we're just a bunch of chill.

[Mal]

Yeah, a bunch of chill guys over here. Matter of fact, I'm just pile with my hands in my pocket. Do I look chill? I'm nothing like the chill guy me.

[Damaris]

But where does it start?

[Julian]

Your ass through your pocket?

[Damaris]

We can't never find a Kapoor, you.

[Mal]

Know, you guys never play with your balls in class when you were kids?

[Rory]

Are you kidding me? I do that all the time here.

[Mal]

You still do that? Yeah, I mean, I grew out of it.

[Rory]

That's why nobody ever hanging with them, but, like, adjusting.

[Mal]

Somebody said that you itched your ass and then touched your mouth.

[Rory]

No.

[Mal]

One episode.

[Rory]

No. That. No, because I probably did that. No, we just did this. You're gonna drop it again. What happened was I. I was scratching my back.

[Damaris]

And then you smelled this.

[Rory]

And then I went like. Like I rubbed my face and something. Like that and something.

[Damaris]

Yeah, that was like the doo doo mouth.

[Rory]

I'm like, what?

[Damaris]

Scratching my back, you tell you smelling that duck butter. I get it.

[Mal]

Well, that's Skippy on your back.

[Damaris]

Yeah. You know you gotta smell that duck butter's eyebrow.

[Julian]

These men are in a very silly mood today, y'all, so just pray for me.

[Mal]

No, we're just chill guys.

[Damaris]

I don't even come here that often.

[Mal]

I saw this chill guy meme all day.

[Rory]

I just passed by.

[Mal]

It's your office.

[Damaris]

I was in the area.

[Mal]

We pot at this time, no matter what. I saw this meme all day yesterday and was excited to come into work today because usually Damaris explains to me, like, whatever memes and trends.

[Damaris]

She didn't even see this meme.

[Mal]

She didn't see it at all.

[Damaris]

No.

[Mal]

I still don't know what this chill got chill guy meme is, but I love it. It's not Arthur, but he kind of looks like.

[Rory]

He looks like an aardvark.

[Mal]

I don't know where this originated from, but it's this character.

[Damaris]

How come we can never find the original tweet?

[Rory]

Because this is probably, like, even further obscure depth than even what Reddit could provide.

[Mal]

I think the last time we ever knew the originator of something was fleek, right?

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Mal]

That chicken in the front seat when her eyebrows. That was the last time I remember, like, the originator of something.

[Damaris]

Did they give her credit for starting fleek?

[Julian]

Yes. Eyebrows off fleet.

[Mal]

Well, no. The gays stole it and gave her.

[Damaris]

No.

[Mal]

No publishing.

[Rory]

Okay, but how do you give someone like, you just pair like, what is.

[Mal]

What there should be mean pub the same way we used to Talk that there should be like, Dance Pub. Because once they started, they was doing. What was this? The dance in Brooklyn. All the kids was doing get late.

[Damaris]

Milly Rock.

[Mal]

Milly Rock. When they was doing the Milly Rock in Fortnite, I was like, yo, they need to get paid for this.

[Damaris]

Did he ever get paid for that?

[Julian]

I think so. Y.

[Rory]

Eventually they did get something right.

[Julian]

Yeah, the girl. The. The girl from. Who created the. The Savage dance, too. I think they put that on Fortnite or something.

[Damaris]

Savage?

[Mal]

Yes. You know, the Meg, the Stallion and Beyonce.

[Damaris]

Oh, some. A girl created that.

[Mal]

You know, when they, like, they go, stupid dance.

[Damaris]

Okay. Was it like a choreographer or just.

[Julian]

No, just a random little girl on TikTok.

[Mal]

How's it go?

[Julian]

I'm. I forgot it was. I forgot. I forgot I used to know it.

[Rory]

I know they clapped on the ratchet.

[Julian]

Stupid. Was hat like that little thing?

[Rory]

Yeah, Sassy bougie, ratchet. I don't know. I'm just a chill guy.

[Damaris]

No, you're not.

[Rory]

Yes, I am.

[Damaris]

You be doing everything but chilling.

[Mal]

As much as I like this meme, I'm not this guy whatsoever.

[Damaris]

Patiently waiting for her to make the first move because I'm really just a chill guy.

[Rory]

That's me.

[Damaris]

That is definitely not.

[Mal]

So they just put this Arthur looking guy in different scenarios with different captions.

[Damaris]

So nobody knows what this character is?

[Mal]

Nope.

[Damaris]

It's not like from a cartoon.

[Mal]

It's not from a. I even did my research. I could not figure out where.

[Rory]

So apparently it started on TikTok. Of course. Like all things.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Mal]

But then it got better on Twitter, like everything else.

[Damaris]

Now if this turns out to be some new cartoon, is this not, like, genius marketing?

[Mal]

I mean, yeah, it is. If that's.

[Rory]

Oh, it started on Twitter. So this is the original creator. This guy at. Philip banks created it. First posted on October 4, 2023.

[Mal]

Philip Bank. Pretty much the new Steve Jobs, if you think about it.

[Damaris]

Yeah. I mean, come on, fellas. It featured.

[Rory]

Listen to this. I love, like, articles. It features a human, like, brown dog wearing a swe wear red shoes and blue jeans. The artist described it as a chill guy. That low key doesn't give a.

[Damaris]

And that went viral.

[Mal]

But I feel like that's kind of the original. That's stealing from Kevin James. I feel like, remember the meme where Kevin James, like, is kind of just like with his hands in his pockets, like. Yeah, I'm just a fat, chill guy. I'm just the king of Queens.

[Julian]

Why you call him fat?

[Mal]

Because he's Fat.

[Julian]

He's not fat.

[Mal]

Kevin James is not fat.

[Julian]

I don't think he's fat.

[Rory]

That's a large man.

[Mal]

They tried to replace Chris Farley with him because he was fat, not because he was white. They. They needed a fat guy in their crew. Spade, Adam Sandler, Chris Rock. They needed a fat guy.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Mal]

So they.

[Damaris]

They got.

[Julian]

Who's the fat guy you got in your crew?

[Mal]

I don't know. My dad bought. I might be close. I'm getting there.

[Julian]

You sound like them. Skinny, anorexic. I'd be like, oh, my good. And my ass looks big in this. That's what you saw.

[Mal]

Are you body deforming and shaming me?

[Damaris]

What?

[Julian]

Morphia. Morphia. Morph.

[Mal]

So you're calling me Morpheus?

[Julian]

I'm basically Filip's episode. I'm not gonna make it.

[Damaris]

You're basically.

[Mal]

You're basically just a chill girl.

[Damaris]

Damaris is a chill girl.

[Julian]

I really am.

[Mal]

Julian. Can you.

[Damaris]

No, you not.

[Rory]

No, you are not lying.

[Damaris]

We're lying. We are lying. You are not a chill girl.

[Mal]

Oh, we're doing a lion pod. All right. Bet. I'm a chill guy.

[Damaris]

Yeah, I'm chilling.

[Julian]

You chilling?

[Damaris]

Where you be chilling at?

[Julian]

You don't say.

[Damaris]

Damaris, we saw you on stage shaking ass with Ice Spice.

[Julian]

Cause I'm a real nigga too, but I'm also a chill guy.

[Rory]

This might be the least. This might be the least chill group.

[Damaris]

What does that mean? I'm just a real.

[Julian]

I'll be chilling.

[Damaris]

You don't be chilling, man. We seen plenty of options of you not chilling.

[Mal]

Loki Mall is the only chill guy. I feel like chilling.

[Damaris]

The mar gonna be chilling.

[Mal]

When you first meet PE you might think he's a chill guy, but Peach isn't a chill.

[Julian]

Peach is the most unchill person on this podcast.

[Mal]

But when you first meet him, you think he's a chill guy.

[Rory]

This is a great. These captions are so good when your.

[Damaris]

Paul missed on that last leg. But you're just a chill guy, so you make another bet.

[Mal]

No, you're just a degenerate gambler.

[Damaris]

Like, that's pretty much what it is.

[Mal]

Speaking of Damaris pretending to be a chill girl, we were having so much fun. Bunch of chill guys chilling with the fellas all last night on the timeline. Coming up with cool scenarios where we're chill guys, and then the girls come in like, we're chill girls, too, and just ruin the fucking fun. And they threw a ponytail on this Arthur looking character.

[Julian]

They put lashes on it.

[Damaris]

Too.

[Julian]

It was actually pretty cute.

[Mal]

That looks like the hair that they. They would skin her and then sell it as weave. Too far?

[Damaris]

Yes, very far.

[Mal]

That's a character. They really do that to people and horses, though. At the beauty supply.

[Damaris]

It could be a horse. Like a horse character.

[Mal]

Someone retweeted it, though, and perfectly explained how women ruin the fun. This is the life of a meme, fellas. Kicking it. Come up with a great idea. Let's put a pineapple.

[Rory]

Ideas.

[Mal]

Then all of us get together, start putting pineapples on our head in creative ways. One over there has two pineapples on his head. Being overachiever. And then just a big old broad comes in and says, look at my pineapple. Ruins the fun.

[Damaris]

Why they make it a big girl, though?

[Mal]

I don't know.

[Damaris]

Like, the big girl got to come in and ruin the fun.

[Rory]

This is true, though. When's the last time a girl came up with a funny meme?

[Julian]

We had girl. Girl math. We were.

[Mal]

Having said that she was serious.

[Julian]

We were having a ball with girl math. And y'all come on there. Oh, my God, this is so stupid. Women are bragging about being stupid. Oh, my God.

[Mal]

Girl math.

[Julian]

Is that like. Shut up.

[Mal]

I feel like a man came up with girl math.

[Julian]

No, girls came up with girl math. You don't give women credit for anything. We can't even come up with our own memes.

[Damaris]

I mean, like Rory said, he trying to figure out if you give a woman credit.

[Mal]

I just don't feel like women are. Women are too. Women are too arrogant to even make fun of themselves in that regard because girl math is basically saying stupid math.

[Julian]

Girl math. No, it's not saying stupid math. It's not.

[Mal]

Okay. We can't say any more math.

[Julian]

Oh, my God.

[Damaris]

Women's memes. A little different, though. Like, they. Women be serious with their memes. Like, the new meme is woman saying. But that. Well, it's not even a meme. A girl tweeted, I like a man that don't like to see me working too hard. Serious. I think every woman has posted that tweet on their social media. But like, that. That they really mean. They mean that like, yo, I like a man that don't like to see me work too hard.

[Mal]

What's wrong with working hard?

[Damaris]

I mean, you know, they don't.

[Rory]

Nah, it's corny. You can't try.

[Mal]

Yeah, babe. Get a good day's working. It's. It's honorable.

[Damaris]

Yeah, but they don't want to.

[Mal]

You know, you'll Feel proud at the end of the day.

[Damaris]

Soft, soft era.

[Mal]

Oh, yeah, my bad.

[Damaris]

Soft life.

[Mal]

I did see at the same time, though, the women were.

[Julian]

Yeah, he can't hear his.

[Mal]

The women were talking about liking small dicks all night too. So there was some balance last night. Felt like old Twitter. This girl's brand new memes. And then women were like, you know what? It's okay to not have a nine inch soft.

[Damaris]

Wait, that is. That is. Are these the conversations that are happening on Twitter?

[Julian]

We've been. We've been telling y'all that for the longest. Y'all don't want to hear that.

[Rory]

This girl called ISO and just fudgeing played ball. This was amazing.

[Julian]

A contrarian king dingling all day on my fyp. People been talking about this, man. Most men are average interest.

[Mal]

Amen. There's people who are gonna still bounce on that thing. Amen.

[Julian]

What you shaming them for? He can't help the size of it.

[Mal]

Still beat, though.

[Julian]

Oh, I can't believe Queen put up with that. You do realize, like, that doesn't define a man, right? Like not loving somebody just because of their size. What's. What? What are y'all on? Like, what? It's women out here with little ass butts think she's unlovable.

[Mal]

Yeah, yeah. That's actually what women say.

[Julian]

And getting bbls. This man literally can't fix what's downstairs, y'all. Grown ass women acting childish. Cut the out.

[Damaris]

Can't fix what's downstairs.

[Mal]

Women combusted at that logic.

[Damaris]

Is she talking about Queen Naja's ex's sex tape that went viral and everybody was saying, oh, yes.

[Julian]

Oh, that happened. I didn't even know.

[Mal]

I didn't know anything.

[Damaris]

Yeah. So, Queen Nigel, I was being a.

[Mal]

Chill guy over your head.

[Damaris]

Yeah, I was being a chill guy and I opened my phone. Yeah, her ex. You know, that's all you see on Twitter. Her ex. I think a sex tape leaked or something of her baby father.

[Mal]

Okay.

[Damaris]

And they were saying, oh, he's. He's not. He. He has a small penis. So women was killing him. Like, how did. How did Queen Naja stay with him that long? And just that they're put up with all of that and he ain't. I was like, all right, this is why I just retweet, like, show and just get out. Because I don't, like, I don't know what's happening right now.

[Mal]

Chill guy, Chill guy.

[Damaris]

I'm just posting the show. That's it.

[Mal]

Okay, so that's what Sparked that for her to be, you know, stand on. Stand by herself with this message.

[Julian]

She's not standing by herself.

[Mal]

Women, this was bravery.

[Julian]

Women have been saying for the longest.

[Rory]

Put her on the 20.

[Julian]

We like boyfriend dick. We like average dick. And men get so offended when you tell them that they have boyfriend size dick many times.

[Mal]

Well, you. You explained to us, like, a few months ago that term. I'd never heard the term boyfriend dick.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Until you explained it.

[Julian]

You could take every day and not want to kill yourself after you've had.

[Damaris]

Sex where you want to kill yourself after.

[Julian]

Yeah, it's painful. Having sex with people who are too well endowed is painful, but men think that sex should be painful for women, so. They do. They do. Y'all are laughing. No, y'all are laughing, but I'm dead ass.

[Rory]

Chill guy blowing backs out.

[Julian]

If I pay attention when I'm stroking, I could change how you walk. I killed that. I murdered that. Tore it up. All of that is very violent language. Y'all think that sex is supposed to be like.

[Mal]

I agree the words are a little aggressive, but I don't. I mean, I know we speak for all men and all women on this podcast. I don't think all men are like, yo, I want to harm her.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

I've never said that. I've never went into the red. Like, you know what?

[Julian]

Yeah, I know. I don't mean literally, but you know what I mean.

[Damaris]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, it's all in the music. Like, that up and all of that. Like, I get it.

[Mal]

Yeah, yeah. I187 that pussy.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Rory]

So I think Damaris is. I think the issue for men comes from being called average, because average makes you sound lesser than, when in fact.

[Mal]

The definition is the opposite.

[Rory]

Yeah. When the actual definition is like, no, you're just like a guy.

[Mal]

You're on par. You're just a chill guy. You're a chill guy with chill sex.

[Rory]

You could just lay like.

[Julian]

80Th percentile.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Rory]

What is that?

[Mal]

Chill guy with a chill girl.

[Julian]

We've done that already.

[Rory]

Well, it never gets old. Could have grown. You never know what we're eating these days. 5.1 is the average. Is that hard or soft?

[Mal]

This is not a chill conversation.

[Rory]

My bad.

[Julian]

You're not a chill guy. Chill guys don't Google the average penis size.

[Mal]

Well, last time we did do this, we were talking about micro penis, and I feel like it said 5.1 was.

[Rory]

Oh, yeah. No, the average. The Average flaccid is 3 1/2 inches. 8.8 centimeters. If you want to get your off, just say your in centimeters sounds bigger.

[Mal]

In like a UK accent. So you're not really lying because it's the metric system when you use the accent.

[Rory]

5.1 hard is the 8.8 soft.

[Mal]

Definitely getting some pussy that night. How many kilometers to your house?

[Damaris]

Yo, why is. Why does Julian always pull up?

[Mal]

I don't know.

[Damaris]

He just grabs his.

[Mal]

What type of ad you begin?

[Rory]

Someone said.

[Mal]

Someone hymns. For sure.

[Rory]

Someone said my search history has to be the most diabolical. It is so bad, it's disgusting.

[Julian]

And then you search weird on the new roaring mall. YouTube too. I'd be like, who? Nobody searches.

[Rory]

No, I just watch comedy podcasts. Oh, you measure girth too? I never thought of that. People measure that.

[Damaris]

Like, yo, you can have your intrusive thoughts. Like, not on Mike though.

[Rory]

Like. No, I'm just autistic. Albers, this is weird to see you, like, physically take a tape measure and wrap it around your dick.

[Julian]

God bless.

[Damaris]

What? Why? You said God bless. Why are you telling somebody to bless?

[Mal]

Queen nausea seemed happy, so let's just leave it at that.

[Julian]

When Shorty was talking about average sized penises and how she liked them about to guarantee. She wasn't talking about girth, she was talking about length.

[Damaris]

Okay?

[Julian]

Nobody complains about girth.

[Mal]

So we need more of like a table shout out to girls.

[Damaris]

Who. Who did she shout out?

[Rory]

You know girth master.

[Damaris]

I know girth master.

[Rory]

Yeah, he's.

[Mal]

She's been brought up. He's a friend of the show.

[Rory]

He's a friend of the show. It's him and Clay.

[Damaris]

You know Girth master.

[Mal]

He's been brought up multiple times on this ye.

[Rory]

He's like a girth guy.

[Damaris]

Okay.

[Mal]

I think you can add up, like, what. What he does for a living.

[Damaris]

Okay?

[Mal]

He just be girthy in these streets.

[Damaris]

He's a. He's a mattress actress.

[Rory]

He's. How tall is he? Or is this like how to find out? Or is this like an illusion where he only.

[Mal]

You have to measure him around? Not by. Never mind.

[Rory]

Like, does he only fuck women under five feet?

[Julian]

Well, I mean, that's a porn category.

[Mal]

This is getting too freaky.

[Julian]

This is getting too freaky.

[Mal]

Speaking of gambling, what. What bookies does Jay Leno. Oh, is it bad? I feel a little liberated off this. Like, I kind of feel like karma maybe have something to do with what's going on with Jay Leno.

[Rory]

You think Conan loves when all this shit happens to him?

[Mal]

I don't want to see Jay Leno get hurt. But for the second time, he fell down some steps and injured himself. Like, ironically, Jay Leno, who's a multimillionaire who owns 37,000 cars, was staying in a Hampton Inn. Yeah, he's working, and then TMZ caught him on the street with an eye patch. I've gotten a loan from that block.

[Damaris]

Yo, but you got. You got a little, like, history with Jay Leno.

[Mal]

I know. That's why. Yeah, I feel bad. I'm a healing spirit. So I wasn't happy to see his face look like that, but I wasn't like, damn, I should reach out. Tried to bet he tried to kidnap my mom and her best friend backstage. Any man that's goto is like, hey, nice to meet you. Do you want to see the house I just bought? These are the rooms you can stay in.

[Rory]

Mm.

[Mal]

When I was standing right there, that's.

[Rory]

Not a chill guy.

[Mal]

No, there was nothing chill about this. Matter of fact, I was standing next to Black, who's the chillest of guys, and even he was like, yo, that was weird, bro. That wasn't really chill.

[Damaris]

Jay Leno. So he fell down. Jay Leno has been seriously injured again, after the comedian says he fell down a hill at the Hampton Inn.

[Mal]

That's Invisible, Inc. Jay Leno did not pay again.

[Damaris]

Yeah, well, they caught up with Jay Leno again.

[Rory]

The COVID The COVID story that he said he drops.

[Mal]

He drop. Drops his payments off at the Hampton Inn weekly.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Mal]

And this one.

[Damaris]

This.

[Mal]

This envelope was a little light.

[Rory]

Going to a dinner, and instead of taking. Instead of getting in a car and going around the hill, which would have taken, what, 20 minutes.

[Mal]

You know what? Jay Leno couldn't find a car that day.

[Rory]

He decided to walk down the hill behind the Hampton Inn that he happened to be staying in, even though he's worth $450 million, and he fell down the entire hill.

[Damaris]

First of all, Jay cut this.

[Mal]

Can you imagine watching Jay Leno fall down a hill? His chin would catch every curve.

[Julian]

Yo, he's alive.

[Mal]

We can't joke.

[Damaris]

Yeah, but what hill did he fall down? Like, I've never fell down a hill and had my face look like that.

[Rory]

He's worth, like, his eyes closed.

[Mal]

And if you roll down a hill like, that looks like one specific side. That looks like the placement of a foot a couple times in the same area.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Rory]

If you roll down the hill, the hits would kind of be dispersed all over. This is pretty concentrated.

[Mal]

And to be quite honest, like, you know, obviously, I'm not a Doctor. But if you're falling, I feel like your face is kind of designed especially with a chin like that, that your nose and your chin and your forehead would block most of the impact from your eye. That looks like the hill just focused on his eye.

[Rory]

The hills have eyes that looked like.

[Damaris]

Harpo's eye on Color Purple.

[Julian]

The hills have hands.

[Rory]

Do you ever see that? That those guys were taking that made them turn blue.

[Mal]

Willy Wonka in the Chocolate Factory.

[Rory]

It was a cult thing.

[Julian]

Violet.

[Mal]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I watched that cult.

[Rory]

You know what that. Yes. He thought it was like a thing that'll make you live forever.

[Mal]

Yeah, yeah, it was. It's one of those scammer like crystal.

[Rory]

That's literally what he looked like. That's not edited.

[Damaris]

Oh, that's my man from X Men.

[Rory]

I don't remember his name, but it looks like he. It looks like that. To that extent of bruising.

[Damaris]

That bruise is crazy.

[Rory]

And his hand to look at his.

[Mal]

Arm, by the way, this was a power move by Jay Leno to get on camera. Yeah, he's trying to let the people know that did this to him for the second time. Like, yo, the world knows now. So you guys can stop.

[Damaris]

Stop putting your hands on me.

[Rory]

Do you guys think the burning him. Remember he got trapped in his car and got severely burned, like third degree burns. Do you think that that was also an accident?

[Mal]

I think that was probably an accident, but this. This was no accident. He just had to. He went and found a hill.

[Damaris]

What hill? I've never seen nobody fall down the hill and their face looks like that.

[Rory]

Like, people only fall down hills in movies.

[Damaris]

That. That hill was the. Like, was he a.

[Rory]

This is it.

[Damaris]

By the way, was he skiing in. In the X Games?

[Mal]

That was the same hill that Kevin Hart broke his back on and then people fled the scene.

[Damaris]

Yeah, like what? Same. Looks like the same hill.

[Mal]

It was the. It was the same.

[Damaris]

The hills have eyes.

[Mal]

Same hill that Terrence just. Just left his car.

[Damaris]

It. I'll get a new one. Leave it there and you get no Terrence J.

[Mal]

Just gotcha. That hill is infamous.

[Damaris]

Terrence J. Is a chill guy. That's all.

[Mal]

He is a chill guy. I actually like him a lot. Yeah, that's a chill hill. That's. That's the hill people go to die on.

[Damaris]

They die on that hill or pray to Jay Leno.

[Julian]

Ah, good one.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Julian]

You know, you definitely are on that hill, dying a few times.

[Mal]

A few times over. I'm gonna die on that hill. But it's because I'M not a chill guy.

[Damaris]

Well, Jay Leno, pay them people their money, man. Whoever they are, wherever they're from.

[Mal]

How much you gotta bet? Like, we've heard of some of Jordan's gambling debts. Who was almost a billionaire at that time. How much do you have to bet that you get hands placed on you when you're worth that much money?

[Rory]

You're Jay Leno. Yes.

[Damaris]

That's those. That's up with a 200 grand. That's a 200 grand ass woman right there.

[Mal]

I was gonna say in the millions. Like, I feel like someone like Jay Leno. If you owe me 200 grand. All right, I'll wait till next month. I'm not gonna beat up Jay Leno. Cause you'll probably get 200 grand next month. Yeah, this has to be like, a year's debt. And they just got to the point. Like, all right, Jay Leno's not paying me. I must be pussy.

[Damaris]

Yeah, I got to put hands on Jay Leno.

[Mal]

Like, sell one of your thousand cars.

[Damaris]

Well, prepares to Jay Leno. Hopefully he doesn't fall out in the other hills at the Hampton Inn. We want to catch him at the La Quinta End Hill. Those hills over there. Crazy.

[Mal]

Do we know what town that was even in? Like, what was. What was Jay doing?

[Damaris]

Had to be in la.

[Rory]

It was in la. I don't know where in la, though.

[Mal]

And, you know, LA doesn't have a lot of hotels. Yeah, you know, I had to stay at the Hampton Inn.

[Rory]

It was bc when you live there.

[Damaris]

At the Hampton Inn.

[Rory]

No, like, he lives in la.

[Damaris]

Oh, yeah. Beautiful home.

[Julian]

Oh, my God. Hear me out. Oh, he was, to my wife, Jay Leno at the Hampton Inn. Because why else the will he be at the Hampton Inn? And he got his ass.

[Damaris]

Jay Leno's pushing dope. He's pushing dope in the 37,000.

[Julian]

He got caught with somebody. Wife.

[Mal]

I'm not mad at that theory, but you have to be a different level of horny to someone else's wife in a Hampton Inn.

[Damaris]

Like I was about to say, you got to be a different level horny to Jay Leno.

[Mal]

Well, I mean, it's worth money.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Thank God my mom passed the test, I think.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Mal]

I'm not with her all the time. I don't know. But I've seen how Jay Leno gives it up. Like, he wasn't on the type of time of. Yo, I'll meet. I'll meet you, Rory's mom.

[Damaris]

Wherever you're staying, you got to come where I'm at.

[Mal]

Like, he said you could come live in my mansion. Here's a room for each you.

[Damaris]

Yes. He not.

[Mal]

He was on some R. Kelly trap you in my house type of swag.

[Rory]

Oh, sorry this happened. 30 miles outside of Pittsburgh checks out.

[Damaris]

Oh, yeah.

[Rory]

Okay.

[Damaris]

Mafia.

[Mal]

Why was J 30 miles outside of Pittsburgh?

[Rory]

He was performed at the Steelers Fan. He performed at the Palace Theater. Oh, well, no, sorry, this is back in la. He must have been there for a show.

[Mal]

I guess he's at a casino by chance.

[Rory]

Yeah, that's crazy.

[Mal]

How far is that from Foxwoods?

[Rory]

Demerit has a point, though, because she said he might stay at places like that because people wouldn't suspect someone like that to stay at those places. Mark Zuckerberg and like other tech billionaires used to do like big heavy meetings at like Denny's or like a shitty diner because no one would ever expect them to be there.

[Mal]

Yeah, but they're not that recognizable.

[Rory]

Talk about.

[Damaris]

Yeah, but Mark Zuckerberg is not as.

[Mal]

Recognizable even at the height of his fame right now. He's not.

[Rory]

Steve Jobs used to do it as well.

[Mal]

Steve Jobs face became more famous after he died when he was alone.

[Damaris]

Yeah. No, but Steve Jobs was. He was. He couldn't have been dressed. He couldn't have had the black turtleneck on. No, he had to throw him off. Yeah, he gotta have red on.

[Mal]

He couldn't wear Levi's that day.

[Damaris]

Nah, he had to throw him off. He had to put a hoodie on. That's how like, nah, that's not Steve. He has a hoodie on.

[Mal]

I could see that for the tech billionaires. But Jay Leno is not throwing anyone off by staying at a Hampton Inn.

[Damaris]

No.

[Mal]

And he has security and fake names at whatever five star resort he stays at. I think Damaris might be right. There may have been a wife after one of these shows in rural Pittsburgh, and she's like, oh, I'm at the Hampton Inn before I go home. And Jay, you know, feeling the vibes after the show, you know, some. Sometimes you get so much energy from the crowd after a show, you just. You stay up, juices is flowing. And sometimes you're like, yo, I'll go to a motel.

[Rory]

I can be a chill guy at a Hampton Inn.

[Damaris]

I can be a chill guy at the bottom of this hill. My face swollen.

[Mal]

Imagine. Imagine the scenario of walking like you went to go get ice at your Hampton Inn, and there's no, like, there's no door guy or lobby. Like, you walk outside to go get ice, then you come back, someone is your wife. You beat the dog out of them in the dark, throw them down the hill, go down for more. Street light hits his face and it's Jay Leno.

[Damaris]

Yeah, but how do you know your wife is there, though? Yeah, but you know when the air tag is following you now your phone.

[Julian]

Yeah, he could just have her. I mean, you can go. You can take somebody's phone when they're not paying attention and share your location with them. And they won't know unless they go and look at your text message where it says you're sharing location.

[Mal]

Doesn't it say, just shared your location?

[Damaris]

Yeah, but you're very detailed. Have you.

[Mal]

She's just a chill.

[Julian]

I'm just a chill girl.

[Damaris]

Okay, you've never done that?

[Julian]

No, I've had it done to me.

[Damaris]

You've had a guy go on your.

[Julian]

Phone and shit mall. Listen, I've had a lot happen to me first.

[Mal]

Damaris is so ill with it. We share each other's location, but I can't see her, she can see mine. So I know she's not a chill girl.

[Damaris]

Yeah, so she figured out some. That she did it to the guy, forgot she was sharing a location with him, forgot to turn it off, and then that walked right up on your ass.

[Julian]

Jay Leno's wife.

[Damaris]

I mean, yeah, but now they older. They 70 something years old.

[Rory]

It sounds like it's like a page out of Bill Belichick's book. Wasn't there, like, footage of him, like, sneaking out of this girl sorority house before they went public?

[Mal]

And now he wiped her.

[Rory]

Now he wiped her.

[Julian]

Well, he had to.

[Rory]

He's having a chill life.

[Mal]

He's. He is not a choker.

[Rory]

He's a sick fuck.

[Julian]

Is that. He might be a chill guy. A sick fuck.

[Mal]

Sick. Be a chill guy.

[Damaris]

It depends.

[Mal]

Like, Jeffrey Dahmer was a chill guy. Like, if you met Jeff out in the streets, like, oh, that's a chill guy.

[Rory]

I would get a little weird.

[Mal]

But he's a chill guy. You're not knowing that. He's really heating up human liver with no seasoning in the room. Over. But if you see him in the hallway on your way out, that's my neighbor Jay. Chill guy. He don't be bothering nobody.

[Damaris]

I still don't believe how his neighbors allowed that to that smell.

[Julian]

Yeah, come on, fam.

[Damaris]

You know that's not.

[Rory]

Man. It is Milwaukee, man.

[Damaris]

Yeah, but that's not food. Come on. That's ass. But sometimes he in there cooking. Ass. That ain't turkey.

[Mal]

He's a burning ass.

[Damaris]

Like, yeah, that ain't turkey.

[Mal]

He has the flame too high too.

[Damaris]

Yeah, that's ass. He in there cooking ass.

[Mal]

I mean, sometimes you have a rent that you don't want to give up and like, you just got to deal with it. Well, anyway, speaking of non show guys, what is Jeff Stamos doing?

[Rory]

Jeff?

[Mal]

John Stamos.

[Damaris]

Jeff Stamos.

[Mal]

What the uncle. What's his name? Uncle Ben.

[Rory]

Jesse Uncle Ben.

[Damaris]

Crazy John Stamos. Well, first of all, present prayers to Dave Collier of Full House. He has recently came out with his cancer diagnosis. And to show solidarity and brotherhood and support his co star from Full House, John Stamos wore a bald cap. I like that. John didn't go full. He didn't commit fully. Like, I still got work. I still got some scripts, some movies. You know what I mean?

[Rory]

I got an Oikos commercial.

[Damaris]

Yeah, I can't just go. I can't go bald. And John Stamos has.

[Mal]

He could reboot conheads.

[Damaris]

Yes. John Stamos has a beautiful head of hair.

[Mal]

That's such a John Stamos thing to do of like, I'll stand with you just for a photo and then I'm.

[Damaris]

Gonna take this off and you be bald by yourself and fight cancer.

[Mal]

If guys, if I somehow get cancer. Don't shave your heads. Don't put a ball like, this is. This is. This is. No, if you have.

[Damaris]

You had to shave yours.

[Mal]

No, I've had a shaved head almost. You guys can do whatever you want. No, but, like, visit me in the hospital. I don't need this.

[Damaris]

But I gotta show solidarity. No, you just don't post it online or else. It didn't happen. You know that.

[Mal]

That's chemo.

[Damaris]

Yeah, that's.

[Mal]

That's what's gonna help me.

[Damaris]

Yeah, that we're balled together. Don't feel. Don't feel shame. I'm bald with you, my brother. But yeah, in all seriousness, hopefully Dave Collier is, you know, on the road to recovery and. And beating this cancer diagnosis.

[Mal]

I. Please just. Ugh. I don't know. I guess it was supposed to be a joke situation. I don't know.

[Damaris]

I mean, they're having fun with it. They're not taking it to. Obviously cancer is a serious thing, but, you know, they're. They're close friends and obviously, you know.

[Mal]

If I get cancer, we can joke about it, but don't like your head for IG comments.

[Damaris]

I mean, it was cool.

[Mal]

Cancer rollout, cancer reveal.

[Damaris]

Cool.

[Mal]

Would your beard fall off if I Took chemo for the most part.

[Damaris]

Yeah. All hair is gone. That, like, you actually know some people. Some people don't lose hair. Some people.

[Mal]

Yeah. Some people don't know. My frat brother didn't. That was so fucked up. Even though I don't have cancer. Like, that was almost offensive to me. Just her face, she was like, your beard fall off. Like, I can't with you.

[Damaris]

Yeah, I can't.

[Mal]

Like, we're only friends.

[Damaris]

I can't even look at you.

[Julian]

No, that's. I still with you. I text you, and I don't want to look without that beard.

[Damaris]

So Rory shaved his beard off you.

[Mal]

I would have cancer.

[Julian]

I just want to look at. I don't want to look at him.

[Damaris]

Damn.

[Julian]

No, no. I mean, if he had cancer. I'm really sad.

[Damaris]

I don't feel like you're really sad, though.

[Rory]

I am sad at all.

[Mal]

You know what? You're a pretty good friend. Now that I know what my friends would do, I apologize. John Stamos, you are a good guy. I'm so sorry I said I would say not know the level.

[Damaris]

I would actually commit and shave and go bald with you.

[Julian]

You would see.

[Mal]

Yeah, but how. How my brain grow back.

[Damaris]

Like, I let it grow back.

[Mal]

I'd be, like, offended. Like, stop wasting. I get mad at you by wearing a hat because you have a beautiful hairline. And I think it's a waste of a hairline. If you guys started shaving. You all have beautiful hair now. It's just a waste of hair.

[Rory]

Shave. By the way, you only.

[Mal]

You only do that for Soap ads at LaGuardia Airport.

[Damaris]

Bank ads.

[Rory]

Thank you, Conair.

[Julian]

You would definitely. If Rory got cancer, you would definitely start being nice to him and shave your head.

[Mal]

That'd be such a waste of hair.

[Rory]

Guys don't do that now.

[Damaris]

Why would you shave your beard?

[Rory]

Why would I do either of those things? Like, it wouldn't.

[Damaris]

Solidarity. Solidarity got to be show solid to me.

[Mal]

That's like, if I was like, more, I'm dead broke. And you were like, all right, I'm going to empty my account and burn all the cash. Like, no, no. Just because I don't have money doesn't mean you should get rid of yours, too.

[Damaris]

That's not the same thing, man. It's not the same thing. That is so stupid. My account and burn the cash.

[Mal]

We don't both have to be hairless.

[Julian]

Like, no, I think people originally started that is because when people would lose their hair, they would feel unattractive. And it's like, I get it. You usually can't see the unattractive. Unattractiveness in other people, only yourself. So then your friend shaves his head. It's like, wow, you're still beautiful. Yes, I know. You're also still beautiful.

[Mal]

No, I understand the concept, and I think it's great, but don't do it. But I think John Stamos putting the. The fucking swimmer cap over his head is making a mockery of that beautiful moment. I'm saying, me personally, you don't have to have that beautiful moment with me. Also, be a good friend and keep your head.

[Julian]

What would you like us to do? I mean, I wasn't shaved my head, but what would you like us to do?

[Mal]

I could, like, in the hospital, give you all those blank prescription slips and like, let's. Let's make a market out of it.

[Rory]

Oh, yeah.

[Damaris]

I'm not mad at that.

[Mal]

Yeah, like, let's. Let's start a bracket. And at the end of the day, like, I'm probably gonna die. So, like, let's do some Breaking Bad.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Yeah. Put all that debt. Put all that debt in Amara.

[Mal]

She doesn't go to jail.

[Rory]

Fuck her over. No, but she would accrue any.

[Mal]

Like, first of all, Breaking Bad was extremely realistic. You guys would figure out a way to get that money to Amara.

[Damaris]

Absolutely, I would. Gotta. Gotta take care of Amara if you die.

[Mal]

Yeah. You guys would exploit, like, serious satellite radio and force them to give her a donation of my. Make it work.

[Rory]

Tamaras would be Skyler.

[Damaris]

Who the is Skyler?

[Julian]

The most hated TV character of all time. Julian's a dick.

[Rory]

Not a chill girl. She was such a.

[Damaris]

Who? Scholar.

[Rory]

Walter's wife.

[Damaris]

Oh.

[Mal]

The most unchillist.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Though I don't know not to be a contrarian. Said it right. This time. She did get put in some up predicaments. She was the least chill and worst TV wife of all time. Competes with the mother from blow. But, like, look at the situation Walt put her in. Like, I'd be a little upset, too. I might go a neighbor in that situation.

[Julian]

Like, I feel like the mother from Blow is probably worse.

[Mal]

She was definitely worse because, like, that's your child.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Mal]

You're a piece of shit. Skyler was like. Wait, hold on. You're. You're selling what, in my house? Yeah, I'm gonna fuck somebody else.

[Julian]

I mean, because if you. Because now you done implicated me in some shit. I don't even know. I might have to go to jail. And I don't even know what the Fuck is going on?

[Mal]

And you know what? We gave Skyler too much shit. She was right. Walt made her right in the last episode when she said, I need to hear it from you one more time that you did this for the family. Because she was holding some guilt of how she handled that entire thing. And she knew she was gonna be the most hated woman in TV history at that time. He said, I didn't do that for you. For little Walt. His cleft lip. The other little kid, his cleft lip.

[Rory]

I don't think he had a cleft lip.

[Damaris]

I don't think so either.

[Julian]

You.

[Mal]

Have you seen him on the red carpet? I was like, dang, that acting.

[Julian]

Yup.

[Rory]

All right, See, what was his name? What is that actor's name?

[Mal]

Great actor.

[Julian]

That's why we got the problems we got.

[Mal]

And then Walter said, nah, I did that just for me. Like, I did it because I was good at it. And I was. Had resentment for getting pushed out that company. I didn't do anything for y'all. So Skyler was not a piece of shit the way we make her out to be.

[Damaris]

I still think she was a piece of shit. Me personally, so.

[Mal]

As well.

[Rory]

Oh, they both sucked.

[Julian]

Yeah, they belong together.

[Mal]

Walt was a disgusting show, which is kind of crazy because for, like, 45 years, he held that. That, like, diabolical thoughts to himself as a chemistry teacher, and then all of a sudden, is just letting women drown in their throw up on a bed while he watches as a chill guy. Like, hands in his pocket just watching.

[Rory]

That was chill of him to make sure she died.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Mal]

He was about to say was like, you know what? Nah. I saw what Tony did to Christopher.

[Rory]

Yeah, but who I'm gonna play God? Like this was supposed to happen. Like, you can't intervene.

[Mal]

You ain't hear him when. When you knock on the door, I am the trouble. He thought he was God.

[Damaris]

All right, well, when you knock on the door, I am the trouble.

[Mal]

Direct quote. Denzel's kissing guys mall. Can you please talk to us about this gay agenda that keeps getting pushed on us?

[Damaris]

Now, when I tried to talk to y'all about it a year ago, y'all told me I was. No, I don't think that this happened. I don't think that this happened. I think that. I don't know. I think Denzel was probably paid to say he did. Until I see it, I don't believe it.

[Mal]

For those.

[Damaris]

That I don't believe.

[Rory]

Until I see it.

[Damaris]

For those.

[Mal]

No, I don't leave you because Denzel is starring in Gladiator 2. And he revealed in an interview that a scene was cut from the movie where he kissed a man. But he explained that it was like the kiss of death. It was a guy that he was about to kill and he kissed him before he, like, beheaded him. Which I think is like some dominatrix fan.

[Julian]

All right.

[Damaris]

But cool.

[Mal]

But you can't see that happening from Denzel.

[Damaris]

No. All right. Why did they cut it out?

[Mal]

It just probably wasn't a good scene.

[Damaris]

All right. As a director, if I. If Denzel has never kissed. On camera. Kissed another man. And I'm the director of this new fucking box office smash movie.

[Rory]

Ridley Scott, by the way.

[Damaris]

Ridley Scott. And I have Denzel on camera. His one and only ever kissing a man. You think I'm gonna be like, nah, you know what? We gonna cut that out. That don't really.

[Mal]

For that exact reason, I think you would cut it out. If it's not a good scene. If it just ended up. In theory, this would be great. The kiss of death. This was a thing that gladiators used to do. Historically, it checks out. It's not like some homoerotic thing. It's really what the gladiators used to do.

[Damaris]

They used to fuck.

[Mal]

Yeah. They went a little.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Kiss too far. Yeah. There's a pornhub version of this. That would be insane.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Mal]

If it's not a good scene or doesn't make sense.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Mal]

I could see why a director would be like, denzel's never done this. If this is going to be a moment where Denzel kissed a dude, it has to be a good scene.

[Rory]

We could he. I have a little clip from his words. The. Basically the interviewer asks him, say, hey, the Romans were all gay fucking each other. Did you have to do any gay shit? Is basically what she had.

[Mal]

That's what she said with the rainbow behind her. That's how she worded it, right?

[Rory]

Yes, verbatim.

[Damaris]

I actually kissed the man in the film, but they took it. They cut out. I think they got chicken. I was going to ask because I.

[Mal]

Just heard about the Paul and Pedro.

[Julian]

Forehead kiss that apparently got cut from the movie.

[Damaris]

I'm not sure about that one, but I kissed the guy full on the lips. And I guess they weren't ready for that yet.

[Mal]

Your character makes it.

[Damaris]

They weren't ready for that does.

[Mal]

So maybe I had it wrong. Maybe the forehead kiss is what I'm talking about with the kiss to death. Listen, man, in the first Gladiator movie, he was trying to. His Sister. So Denzel kissing a dude isn't that crazy? To me In a second.

[Damaris]

I just want to know, okay, if it wasn't in script, why did Denzel do that?

[Mal]

No, I think it was in the script. They just took the scene out.

[Damaris]

Okay. Why would they take the scene out?

[Mal]

It probably wasn't a good scene.

[Julian]

Probably wasn't good.

[Rory]

That happens. I mean, I've done. Not obviously not to this level, but I've done.

[Mal]

You do that on your own.

[Rory]

I've done shoots, like, for eight companies, and I'll see the final result. Like, half of what I shot is not in it.

[Damaris]

You know, I get that part. What I'm saying is this is Denzel Washington, not Julian Nichols. So I'm just trying to understand if you have.

[Rory]

My point is directors and producers make decisions.

[Mal]

Julian Nichols is funny.

[Rory]

And that's. They just decided to cut that out.

[Mal]

Yeah, but it's not a good scene.

[Rory]

It's not a good scene. It's not a good scene. Like, I've done a photo. It's not a good photo. Like, it's not the vision that they thought it was.

[Damaris]

But we just watched Denzel say they probably were chicken. They probably weren't ready for that. Not that it was a bad scene. I think Denzel knows if he has a bad scene. This is Denzel Washington we talking about. So he didn't say that they felt like it was a bad scene. He said they were either chicken or they weren't ready for that. Those are his direct words. What were they not ready for? This is 2024. We've seen gay sex, kissing. We've seen it all. At this point, what is Hollywood not ready for? Not ready to see Denzel kiss another man.

[Julian]

Or also, maybe they didn't want it to be a distraction from the film. Maybe they think that the film is actually good and they didn't want it.

[Damaris]

I can't get on board with that. That might overshadow the entire. Everybody might just be looking for that scene. Like, okay, Denzel kissed a man on camera. Let's go see. Maybe they didn't want that to be the reason why everybody went to go see the movie. Denzel kisses a man in this movie. I could see that.

[Mal]

Also in interviews for his whole career, like, he does kind of talk off the cuff and around. He could just be around. As far as the chicken part. Yeah.

[Rory]

I think that was a joke.

[Mal]

Just messing around.

[Rory]

Yeah. Because he doesn't have a say on what. That's not. He's not a producer on this he's not like, co direct. Like, he was just saying that as an actor, like, as a joke.

[Damaris]

You don't think Denzel has any say in the movie?

[Rory]

I don't think in terms of scenes like that, no.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Mal]

If he's not. If he's not directing or producing.

[Rory]

Not directing it.

[Mal]

I think he actually also respects the process.

[Julian]

Yeah. He's paid a fee to do.

[Damaris]

I think y'all got Denzel up.

[Rory]

Here's another. He got caught again on a red carpet. And this was a little different of an answer. The movie.

[Damaris]

Why do you think they did that? It wasn't even a big deal, really. I mean, I, I, I, I. That's about what it was.

[Mal]

Ridley said he never saw the kiss. He said it didn't happen.

[Damaris]

It's much ado about nothing. It really is much ado about nothing. You know, they make him more of it than it was. I kiss him on his hands. I gave him a peck and I killed him.

[Mal]

I have to tell you, us gay boys want to see Denzel kissing.

[Damaris]

Oh, my God. I don't have the part yet. You gonna write it? All right.

[Mal]

Awesome.

[Rory]

Well, it sounds like what Rory said was right. It seems like it was a kiss of death type scene where he kisses this guy and then knocks his head off.

[Mal]

What's funny is the director maybe didn't see it and it was some improv shit. Because I do think Denzel does have free range while he's acting. I don't know if he has, say, as far as what is cut and what isn't, but I'm sure they allowed Denzel Washington to just, you know, freestyle a little bit. He may have kissed the guy before he killed him. And the director didn't even see it.

[Damaris]

So he cut what he didn't see.

[Mal]

Yeah, yeah.

[Rory]

I mean, the interview did say Ridley Scott didn't even see it, so.

[Damaris]

Okay.

[Mal]

There's a lot of scenes and movies of that magnitude where the DP is paused. Shooting everything at that point and shooting up the club. Like, some dailies don't even get to the director because there's just so much stuff that they're. They trust their team to cut what they think could be usable and what couldn't.

[Damaris]

I gotta go see this movie, though. I'm hearing good things about it.

[Julian]

Yeah, I'm gonna go see it too.

[Mal]

Gladiator, too.

[Julian]

I haven't seen one, though, so I should probably do that first.

[Mal]

What?

[Julian]

Oh, my God. Sorry.

[Damaris]

You're not a chill.

[Rory]

That's not chill at all.

[Julian]

It's Actually, real chill. I don't rush to go see what everybody else is watching.

[Mal]

It's been like 30 years.

[Julian]

Oh, that's so. Wait, no, no, no, no, no.

[Rory]

Hold on.

[Julian]

Wait, hold on.

[Mal]

I was in, like, middle school when it came out.

[Julian]

No, let me clarify. I didn't know that this was number two to the original Gladiator. I have seen the original Gladiator.

[Rory]

Gladiator.

[Julian]

I thought that this was number two that was a remake or something like that.

[Mal]

Well, no, Gladiator 1 with Russell Crowe is a remake of Gladiator from, like, the 70s, I want to say.

[Damaris]

Yeah, 70s, 80s.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Julian]

But I thought this was the number two to a remake of the 2000s one. I have seen the original. I didn't know that.

[Damaris]

This is it. This is Gladiator 2.

[Mal]

So you've seen the Russell Crowe one or the original?

[Julian]

Original, I've seen the Russell Crowe one. What I'm saying is I thought that this was the number two of a remake of the Russell.

[Mal]

Okay, then you are technically right, because Gladiator with Russell Crowe is a remake of something from the 70s or 80s.

[Damaris]

80S.

[Rory]

80S. It was a show, it looks like.

[Julian]

So that's why I'm like, oh, I haven't seen the. The number one.

[Mal]

The Russell Crowe one is probably one of. One of the greatest movies I've ever seen.

[Damaris]

You've seen that one?

[Julian]

Yes.

[Damaris]

Oh, okay. I'm about to say so.

[Julian]

I was very young, though, so I obviously have to re Watch it.

[Mal]

Definitely rewatch it.

[Rory]

I actually would like to rewatch it. I haven't seen it in a while.

[Mal]

I watched it recently because Kia hadn't seen it. And anytime she hasn't seen a classic movie, I get excited because I get.

[Julian]

To re watch it and make her sit and watch it.

[Mal]

Yeah. And then, like, pause and like, try to explain because I'm so excited.

[Julian]

God, he's annoying.

[Damaris]

Did you have, like, a list of black movies you wanted?

[Mal]

Me and Damaris did. Yeah.

[Julian]

I gave up.

[Mal]

It was. It was too many black movies.

[Julian]

I gave up.

[Damaris]

Did she watch it?

[Mal]

We didn't even get to the Tyler Perry section.

[Damaris]

Oh, God.

[Julian]

We were watching Poetic justice and she said it wasn't good. I don't. I don't. I don't think that was. I don't think I've seen Kia since. Or was it Poetic Justice?

[Mal]

Or was it was atl?

[Damaris]

I don't think it was either or. Both of those movies are great.

[Mal]

Both classics.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Like, I can't remember which one it was.

[Julian]

ATL was with you. She Watched ATL with you.

[Mal]

Okay.

[Julian]

Poetic Justice. She watched with us.

[Mal]

Yeah. That's rough to.

[Damaris]

Not like that Poetic Justice.

[Mal]

Because then at that point, like, I'm not mad at you. I just feel bad for your palette. Yeah, like, that's really just how I feel.

[Damaris]

Speaking of poetic justice, recipes to Safir.

[Mal]

Oh, I thought you were going to see what's on the screen.

[Damaris]

No. Rapper from. From the Bay Area. He played. I think he did he. Well, he was. No, he played in. I'm. He played in Minister Society, but because he's from the Bay. Poetic justice took place in the Bay. Just thought about Safir. So Rest in peace, Sophia. He played cousin Harold in Minister Society. Yeah, he passed away, I think, day before yesterday.

[Mal]

Damn.

[Damaris]

Rest in Peace, Bay Area legend.

[Mal]

Great, great role too, Cousin Harold. I really thought you were about to go into this Kim Kardashian shit as. Speaking of Poetic justice.

[Damaris]

This is Poetic justice, is it?

[Julian]

Yeah, it's pretty poetic.

[Mal]

It's a great photo shoot. Don't get me wrong.

[Damaris]

Kim looks great.

[Mal]

It doesn't scare anyone.

[Damaris]

Tesla robots.

[Julian]

There you go.

[Mal]

I saw a very interesting tweet that did make me think, because I felt seen. This is from AC Tatum. Funny how all the typical conspiracy people are completely okay with the world's richest man building robots. Neuralinks, starLink satellites, and AI systems, and are perfectly fine with him essentially buying the presidency to see all the conspiracies everywhere. But this one is fine. It's hilarious. I agree with him because all the conspiracy people that are in my algorithms that, like, have gotten me to a weird place, all think the richest man in the world aligning himself with the president while building AI robots is fine. This is a conspiracy theorist dream. Like, hey, I predicted this. And they're just like, yeah, go, Elon.

[Julian]

Because they're. They're Republican before they're conspiracy theorists. Yes, that's why.

[Mal]

That's what it is. They just wanted their guy in there, and now it's not a conspiracy. Now this is right on par. Kim Kardashian hugged up on a robot in a Tesla. This is a conspiracy theorist wet dream. And they're just like, wow, we like him now.

[Julian]

How is that a conspiracy? This is just Kim being.

[Mal]

I mean, one of the first conspiracy theories ever was Robots will control the world. They've made, like, 30 movies about it. That's like Conspiracy 101 shit. So to see all the conspiracy theorists that are mad when planes have a little draft behind them are completely fine with the world's richest man. Creating rockets to go to space and then leaving us with the robots on Earth.

[Rory]

Yes, Queen, go off.

[Mal]

And he also now controls a media publication. This is a movie script for a conspiracy theorist. This is V for Vendetta. And Elon Musk is the bad guy.

[Damaris]

So are you scared?

[Mal]

I've been terrified for years, Mo.

[Damaris]

What are you scared of?

[Mal]

Not just because of Elon.

[Damaris]

Robots.

[Mal]

I don't have any control of this.

[Damaris]

Oh, you're scared because you don't have control?

[Mal]

I have no say. And when I say me, I just mean us as a. A human race. We have no say in whatever this is gonna end up.

[Rory]

Kai ended up getting one of these robots too. His looks.

[Mal]

Wait, why did they give Kai the bootleg one?

[Rory]

His looks? I was gonna say his looks like the Samsung version.

[Mal]

I thought you were gonna go somewhere else with. Nevermind.

[Rory]

What? What? Another country.

[Mal]

Different.

[Julian]

Yeah, different. Sam.

[Mal]

I thought. And I was gonna give you credit for a good joke, but it's cool.

[Julian]

You were being racist. Ignore it. Go ahead.

[Mal]

I. How am I being racist?

[Julian]

Go ahead.

[Rory]

No, I'm just. Well, I don't. I'm trying to think of the racist joke. I'm mad I can't think of it. 24 grand for Kai's robot, so I don't know. It looks like it.

[Mal]

He just punched the tv.

[Rory]

Yeah, Just wrecked his live stream.

[Mal]

That. I'm sure that was planned.

[Julian]

Yeah, all of this is playing. I'm sure he didn't pay for that.

[Mal]

Robot either, but showering with a bathing suit on for a whole month would be rough.

[Rory]

Oof.

[Damaris]

Wait, he has to show when he's in the shower?

[Julian]

No, I'm sure he takes showers.

[Rory]

No, this is really his thing.

[Mal]

Kai found a streamer that has been streaming since 2021 every day. Found her? Yeah, and I think he paid for all her new equipment. Like, said she she should be put up for streamer awards. Like, he did a lot of cool for her, but someone put him on to this girl because this was like, to us, the craziest thing. 30 days and I was like, no, there's been some girl that's just not as popular, that's been streaming since 2021 every day. Like, never stopped.

[Damaris]

How is that possible?

[Julian]

I understand how it's possible for Kai because he has a team and a lot of money. But for.

[Mal]

Yeah, what's the bills like over there?

[Julian]

Like what?

[Mal]

Burning up all our we fee.

[Damaris]

And is it like, does she show herself when she sleep? Like the camera just on while she sleeps?

[Mal]

I mean, I didn't log in. But I probably. And it's probably different too, because he. Again, he has a team and other rooms he could go to. I think shorty's just like, in her bedroom.

[Damaris]

Who's watching this?

[Mal]

People, People. People played the Sims game. People, like, people have been preparing the human mind to just do this. Yeah, but like, Black Mirror has been showing us the breadcrumbs for.

[Damaris]

I'm not mad at somebody streaming every day. Right. But, like, even when you're asleep, the camera's on you while you're in your bed laying down. Sleep. Like, does Kai show when he sleep? Yeah, he does a good job.

[Rory]

He has, like, other creators come in and, like, do stuff, interact with the crowd while he's.

[Damaris]

Why he goes in another room and sleeps.

[Rory]

No, he's in the back.

[Julian]

He's in the back sleeping.

[Damaris]

So, like, still talking on camera.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

He'll have like Pinky doll come in and do like, ooh, yum, delicious. All that, like, weird just to get him to sleep.

[Damaris]

Who could sleep through that?

[Julian]

I could.

[Damaris]

Somebody yelling, yum, delicious right here.

[Julian]

And I'm sleepy enough. You can sleep through whatever.

[Rory]

Well, here you go. Like, Kai is asleep. And then he'll have like, NPC Miles Morales come in and just like, he's not sleep. Do whatever.

[Damaris]

There's no way he's sleep right there.

[Mal]

I'm sure he is.

[Rory]

I can sleep anyway.

[Mal]

It's tired. And you think he's just pretending to be sleep for six hours?

[Julian]

No, sky be sleep.

[Damaris]

This is just.

[Rory]

It's not healthy. You're right.

[Damaris]

I'm just. That's what I'm just not understanding, like, who is.

[Mal]

Well, who's it not healthy too, because Kai is just living his life.

[Rory]

No, it's not good for anybody to.

[Mal]

Is it the people that are viewing it, that it's unhealthy too.

[Damaris]

Kai asleep in that bed right now. Yeah. Knocked out with this smoke. Like, all of that.

[Mal]

I have slept through plenty of people.

[Damaris]

Smoking in my room and somebody playing the drum. This is not real, bro. This is not.

[Rory]

It could be in REM cycle. He could be in a deep sleep.

[Damaris]

No, he's. Look, he's awake.

[Mal]

Oh, he just woke up.

[Damaris]

Yes. He's not sleeping today. He woke up. He has a red cup in his hand.

[Mal]

You think he was sleep at some point? He's sleeping. Well, he's not staying up for 30 days.

[Rory]

Cool.

[Damaris]

But is he on camera sleeping?

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Does he go in another room and then somebody else streams while the most.

[Mal]

Party is on camera?

[Julian]

Whoever is streaming or Helping him at the time is in the same room as him. So no, he's not sleeping well. But when you get tired enough, you're gonna go to sleep. You don't give. A marching band is playing in that room.

[Damaris]

Yeah, no, I'm gonna get up and tell everybody to shut the up and get out.

[Julian]

You can't do that because they're on the schedule.

[Rory]

Yeah, it's against the whole thing.

[Mal]

That'd be rude. Like, why'd you invite me then?

[Julian]

Yeah, you hired me.

[Damaris]

So he can't. So the thing is, Kai cannot ever be completely off camera.

[Mal]

Yeah. 30 days.

[Damaris]

Wow.

[Julian]

He just got a massage.

[Mal]

Prisoners do it every day on camera there, are they not?

[Damaris]

No, there's no cameras in your cell. What the.

[Mal]

He's right outside.

[Damaris]

No, no, that's your Epstein style. That's just. I don't know. That's. I don't. I mean, I guess it's a audience for it, but it's just like I feel like after a certain time it's just not a lot of people watching because everybody. Some different parts of the world, people are sleeping. Like, I mean, I guess it changes.

[Julian]

I want to say his audience is pretty global. It's 5:00 somewhere.

[Mal]

Oh, yeah, sure, I get that. I heard. Didn't this masseuse stop what she was doing because everyone was sexualizing her?

[Rory]

Yeah, she is bad.

[Julian]

Good for her and look at you.

[Mal]

Good for her, but also like sexualizing her.

[Rory]

She's a good looking woman.

[Mal]

I hate. I hate to say it this way, but he did it. They understand the Internet better than we understand the Internet. What did you think was going to happen in a streamer's comments if you brought an attractive woman to do a massage?

[Rory]

It's all a gimmick too. Like she knew what the hell was going to be said about her, which is unfortunate.

[Mal]

What do you think we're talking about the streamer community. Like it's a bunch of horny kids in that chat. Of course they're going to say something.

[Julian]

Oh, it's kids in there. It's a bunch of horny kids.

[Mal]

A bunch of horny men too.

[Julian]

I just remember, remember me saying that it was kids. Remember that peach and they said that's not his audience. Young adults just was wondering.

[Mal]

I think there's 40 year olds that are kids. Beat you there.

[Damaris]

Beat you there.

[Rory]

Just a bunch of chill guys.

[Mal]

Yeah. I say kid. Not his age, but a maturity level.

[Damaris]

Well, shout out to Kai, man. That's a different level of dedication for sure.

[Julian]

Is he Gonna take, like. Does he take, like, breaks after this mafia thon shit?

[Damaris]

I would assume he's gonna take a vacation he disappeared for.

[Mal]

I'm sure he'll stream the vacation, though. Yeah, this is the doctor vacation. 30 days.

[Damaris]

That just doesn't seem healthy. But. All right, well, shout out to Kai, the Bronx legend. J. Cole's podcast dropped in. Inevitable. Yes, is the name of it.

[Mal]

Two episodes are out. If you've heard.

[Damaris]

If you're listening, episodes are available. I didn't hear any of them because I don't know where to hear it at.

[Mal]

Okay, So I purchased it and I'm here. Maybe I have it up. I don't want to come in here and say how. How they put this pod together is not user friendly because I could be it up. I even texted Julian after I bought the Inevitable on the website. I said, is there an app or something? Maybe I'm using this.

[Damaris]

So you have to go to a website?

[Mal]

Yes, Inevitable dot whatever.

[Damaris]

Okay.

[Mal]

So I bought it. Super easy to buy. Apple Pay double tapped, 10 bucks. Get the first episode. It shows all the other episodes. I have audio, just audio.

[Damaris]

Okay.

[Mal]

I have to listen to it on the site, which is tough with my phone because if I X out of Safari and once it goes away or if my phone just closes, it stops playing. So please comment below. Maybe I have this fucked up and I can't find the app that allows you to just listen to it the way you listen to other audio adventures. But I couldn't get into it because I like to listen to audio when I'm doing things. Running errands, cleaning, doing work. I wasn't able to get through it because my phone kept closing.

[Damaris]

So you have to take your phone off a lot.

[Mal]

I'm not doing all of that.

[Damaris]

Well, then you don't want to hear the Inevitable.

[Mal]

I was not mad that they were charging for it. At the end of the day, it's a dollar per episode. I think that's pretty fair. I'm not on the side. Everyone's like, yo, if Cole's really a.

[Damaris]

Man of the people in the pot, why'd he charge?

[Mal]

It's 10 bucks for 10 episodes. I think that's super fair. Especially because they had to pay a lot of people to put this thing together. And people need to be paid.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Mal]

But I do think if I'm paying, I do want some form of convenience. Like I. I pay 10.99 for YouTube Premium just so I can close my phone and keep listening to YouTube. I pay for Twitter because I can Close my phone and continue to listen whatever I'm listening to on Twitter. I thought it would be the same thing with this, especially with riveting conversations that I really want to hear. I don't want to keep tapping my phone or change the settings on my phone and keep listening to it. Now I could be completely wrong and I just haven't figured it out because I am not Gen Z and I'm turning into my father as far as technology. So please comment if I have this fucked up. I was too scared to text Eve and ask him. Felt like I'd be inconvenience him after he put this whole thing out. Like, hey bro, how do I work this?

[Damaris]

How does this thing work?

[Mal]

Which I didn't want to do. So if someone can explain to me how to listen to this audio journey when I can lock my phone, I'd love to know.

[Damaris]

Julian, did you listen to it?

[Rory]

I haven't yet, no.

[Damaris]

How many episodes did you get through?

[Rory]

There's only releasing. There are only two out right now.

[Mal]

I got through 10 minutes of the first episode.

[Damaris]

Oh, wow. Okay.

[Mal]

My phone kept locking.

[Damaris]

Okay.

[Mal]

And then I even typed in the actual link that I had gotten after purchasing. I was like, oh, maybe it's. Maybe I have it fucked up. And because I purchased it through Twitter, you know, like Twitter can take you to a payout and then you still stay in. Like Twitter Safari exited out of that started from Google and it still kept locking. Every time audio would stop, then I'd open it back up and the audio would start playing again.

[Damaris]

So the listener experience is not very for me.

[Mal]

I could have it all the way fucked up. I don't want to do false advertising. Maybe I have it fucked up.

[Rory]

Okay, episode two comes out. Well, if you're listening to this, it came out yesterday.

[Mal]

Yeah, lightsplaze came out yesterday. Which again, I want to hear all this. I was happy to pay the 10 bucks. I just want to be able to close my phone and go about my day and listen to this shit.

[Rory]

He re released the Come up, which was one of his earliest mixtapes. What do you guys think about this move in tandem with the podcast?

[Damaris]

I like it.

[Mal]

Thought it was a great move.

[Damaris]

I like it.

[Mal]

I look forward to the rest of his mixtapes being on streaming as the episodes come out. Did you listen to the DSP version? Did they keep the By Any Means and Aristotle tags?

[Rory]

I do not know. But I was with Boz when all this happened and we were laughing about DJ On Point's drop.

[Mal]

Don't do that man.

[Rory]

No, it's hilarious. Like, it's On Point or whatever.

[Mal]

Yeah. Is a legend.

[Rory]

No.

[Mal]

In New York City, especially.

[Damaris]

Without a doubt.

[Rory]

But it's just a great drop. That drop is amazing.

[Mal]

Well, that's 50, right? He's on point. Because he's on point.

[Rory]

That's. Yes, Exactly.

[Mal]

Yeah. That's 50 saying that, I think.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

But On Point had some of the best mixtape drops, for sure. Like, On Point was that guy, which I think Aristotle set that relationship up at that time. I love that this is a thing. The artists that have the one access and the funds to be able to put their mixtapes on DSPs. I love that we're able to get this.

[Damaris]

Well, I'm. I wanted to listen to it, but I don't want to run into the same problem that you have. So figure it out.

[Mal]

And I think this is good. This is good for the kids, too.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Because a lot of, like, the mixtapes that end up on DSPs, only, like, half of it ends up on there. So so Far Gone, for example, just got put back on DSPs. Like, what, two, two or three years ago before so far gone was on DSPs, but it was the version that they released after that had, like, half of it without the unoriginal beats. So there would be kids that weren't around for that. They'll be like, why do y'all love so Far Gone so much? Like, I listened to it on dsps. This is ass.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Mal]

There's plenty of mixtapes that are the same way. These kids don't know why that mixtape is so influential, because the entire thing isn't there. I love that every single song from the come up is on there, but only artists with money and access can do that. Like, I'm sure Hove didn't charge him for the dead President's Beat, but he has a relationship where you can clear it, Right?

[Rory]

Yeah. And Cole did produce 12 of these 21 records. This came out May 4th on your birthday, Rory. May 4th, 2007, turn 17.

[Damaris]

Wow.

[Rory]

Great mixtape. Very. That was a great. Very nostalgic listening back to this one.

[Damaris]

Well, inevitable two episodes are available now. I'm gonna try to listen to it. Hopefully I don't have to keep my phone unlocked the whole time or act like I'm doing something on my phone so it doesn't lock.

[Mal]

Can these. All right. The same way the rules they announced for the Grammys with the best new artists where they have to. It's not how many projects they put out, it's when the masses Found out about them. Like, that's really what the Grammys put out a statement recently about that. Is there a way the Come up could ever be Grammy nominated for Best New Album?

[Damaris]

No.

[Mal]

Why?

[Damaris]

Because it's an album that came out in 2007.

[Mal]

Okay.

[Damaris]

It's not albums.

[Mal]

Can you say. Can you pull up the quote from last week or this week? Julian? The Grammy said because everyone's giving about Best New Artists. We did when. When her was Best New Artist. Love that she was nominated, but her had put out three fucking albums at that point. And they were like, it's when the masses find out about this artist. Doesn't matter if they have 30 projects. It's when the world finds out about it. So why can't that go for albums? But the Come up could be a album now it's on DSPs. Masses are about to get it. Why can't that be Best New Album?

[Julian]

Because it's.

[Damaris]

It was never released as an album. It was always released as a mix.

[Mal]

DSPs have changed that. That everything is an album now. Summer Walker's. The title of her project was an EP and it was nominated for Album of the Year. EP was in the title.

[Damaris]

Which. The new one. The last.

[Mal]

The last one. The last year.

[Damaris]

All right, so it says each year.

[Mal]

Why can't Cole get nominated for. Why can't so Far Gone, the year that they put it on DSP be up for Rap Album of the Year?

[Julian]

Because it's not. That wasn't the year that everybody found out about that album.

[Rory]

Here's the quote that matters.

[Julian]

The album that made Drake fame.

[Damaris]

Everybody knows about the Come Up. Here's the.

[Mal]

That's not so Far Gone.

[Damaris]

Yes.

[Mal]

I'll give y'all so Far Gone. There's no way even some hardcore cold fans that are not of age know about the Come up. I was 17 when it came out.

[Damaris]

You think hardcore J. Cole fans don't know about the Come Up?

[Mal]

I think there's a good majority. Yeah.

[Damaris]

Probably no. Hell no. Any J. Cole fan knows about that.

[Mal]

I think there's hardcore Nicki fans that. That don't even know about beaming up Scotty till she re released it.

[Julian]

That.

[Damaris]

I don't think so.

[Julian]

I don't think so either.

[Rory]

Not a fan guys are bugging you guys.

[Mal]

You guys. I'm talking about young fan of kids.

[Rory]

Young kids.

[Damaris]

But if you're a fan of an artist, if you're a fan of an artist, you're not gonna miss.

[Rory]

Where would you have access these?

[Julian]

If you're a fan of an Artist. You go back and look like somebody doesn't become a Michael Jackson fan off his new release, folks.

[Mal]

All that's readily available everywhere. For a lot of new fans, the first J. Cole project ever was sideline story to them. That's the. The first thing. Because when they do their research, the only thing that is in albums or projects released is that album. Not knowing that Cole had seven projects before that.

[Damaris]

All right, so you're telling me a J. Cole fan knows hardcore Drake fans know comeback season. All right, so yeah, that are.

[Mal]

That are young.

[Damaris]

Yes.

[Mal]

Okay, y'all are fucking bummed.

[Damaris]

If you're a fan of an artist and you're like, damn, I fuck, this is my favorite rap, my favorite single, whatever. And they have an album you like. I never heard that album. You're gonna find that album.

[Mal]

I have argued because of this podcast with hardcore Kendrick Lamar fans. A majority of them never even heard.

[Damaris]

Of overly dedicated, but at some point they did.

[Mal]

No, they're young. They don't know. They think. They don't even know section 80 like that good kid Mad City is where it started.

[Damaris]

How young are you talking?

[Rory]

Like kids that are 20, 22, 23.

[Julian]

I would give this to y'all if.

[Damaris]

You no 23 year old.

[Mal]

A lot of that is is just random. Them singles that they just think are Lucy, like, bro.

[Julian]

They have whole comeback season playlists.

[Damaris]

I find it hard to believe that there's a 23 year old Kendrick Lamar fan that has not heard all if you're 20.

[Rory]

If you're 20 this year. The Come up came out when you were three, right? Why would you know about that?

[Mal]

And it was not available the Come up I have. I downloaded off that piff in 2008. That's the only reason I have it.

[Damaris]

All right, so hold on. You're telling me that when I was in high school and if I would have heard that Biggie had a fucking mixtape and I just missed it. I was too young when it came out. You're telling me by the time I was two years removed from high school in college.

[Mal]

We're giving you a tangible thing. You're making something up.

[Damaris]

I'm just saying that I would not have found that album as an artist, that I would not have found Biggie's first mixtape.

[Mal]

I think they're 20 years old. I think there is hardcore Jay Z fans that are my age that don't know the S. Carter collection.

[Damaris]

What do you mean they don't know it?

[Mal]

They don't even know it exists.

[Damaris]

I don't believe that at 30, at 32 years old.

[Mal]

Yes. I guarantee you my peers that I went to high school with some of them that are considered themselves big Jay Z fans that could recite all of American Gangster when we were seniors in high school, did not even know existed.

[Damaris]

You can't call yourself a fan of an artist. And at 32 years old and you didn't hear something.

[Mal]

Oh, I think a lot. And that's why I think a lot of these younger fans are fans of the moment. They're not fans of artists, but not.

[Julian]

A fan at art that I'm talking about. We're talking about real fans. Like real. Don't sit up here and tell me a Nicki Stan ain't know about.

[Mal]

You think, you think everyone that is at a cold concert in the Garden knows the warmup.

[Julian]

But that's not what we talk about.

[Mal]

They may be no Friday Night Lights.

[Julian]

That's not what we're talking about. No. Just because you're at the show of an artist doesn't make you a fan. Just because you're at the show of an artist, that doesn't make you a fan. People buy tickets just to go to shows, to discover new music.

[Mal]

Young people don't do that.

[Julian]

You just sat up here and we had a whole conversation.

[Mal]

Young people can't afford to do that.

[Julian]

We just had a whole conversation about what's the homie that had that viral TikTok song.

[Rory]

I wish you knew.

[Julian]

Whatever his name was. Steve Lacey. Steve Lacey. And you said Steve Lacy was complaining about the fans only knowing the one song from Tik Tok. And you said, yeah, that's cuz these new fans don't. So they only buy tickets.

[Mal]

That's a. That's an awful, awful comparison.

[Julian]

What I said was people buy tickets to shows even if they aren't fans. That's what I said. And you said that that's not true.

[Mal]

And I'm saying it is true. And I'm saying Cole, Cole, who has a core fan base that is large, that sells out arenas. He even has young fans that are in their early 20s. I'm saying they did not go back and know even the warmup. It wasn't even available on how they receive music. It wasn't even available to them.

[Julian]

It's literally on YouTube.

[Mal]

But it wasn't even available for them to research YouTube.

[Julian]

It's literally on YouTube.

[Damaris]

All of you, when you say fans, I'm just thinking fans dig, they go, they look for, they search.

[Julian]

Am I saying that it's impossible? Yes, of course. There are some fans who might not know, but we're not going to say a large majority, which we were quoted saying earlier. It's not a large majority. Some probably, a lot probably. But not a large majority of the young fans.

[Mal]

Yeah, I think it's a large.

[Julian]

Okay, we can agree to disagree.

[Mal]

Like. All right, never mind. I just don't see a 22 year old Cole fan.

[Julian]

You're not 22. I know, but I'm just saying, like you saying I can't see a 22 year old. You don't 20 years, 22 year olds receive music off of YouTube. All of that is on YouTube.

[Mal]

Okay. You don't, you don't go on Twitter unless it's our pod. Shit. I'm on Twitter all the time. I saw the responses. I click tweets and go all the way through every reply. Everyone that was excited about this being released, you could tell was of my age or older.

[Damaris]

Yeah, but they was probably excited because now it's on dsps.

[Mal]

Yes, because we were the ones.

[Damaris]

Not because they never heard it. Not because they never heard it before. They're just like, oh, it's on DSPS now. Okay, cool. Like I could to be on my.

[Mal]

Phone and just because we knew about it and we're like, oh, thank God the young kids can find out about it now.

[Damaris]

Nah, man. I think, I think young fans, if you're a fan, you, you, you search for projects of artists that you may have missed that you didn't know about once you hear about it. Like I gotta hear that out.

[Mal]

Every fan is us.

[Damaris]

I'm not. No, no, you're right about that. But you said large majority.

[Mal]

There's levels of fans. But you said we are different level of. If we like an artist, we are going to research every last thing they've ever done. That is not the sole definition of fan. There's plenty of people that are die hard fans that only know about your major album releases.

[Rory]

Yes, the ones.

[Mal]

That's it.

[Rory]

Spotify.

[Mal]

Yes, that's it. That's what we're trying to say.

[Damaris]

That's not a. To me, that's not a fan.

[Rory]

That's most people. Most people are very passive listeners of music.

[Julian]

And you're not a fan.

[Mal]

I think there is a.

[Rory]

You can be a big fan, you can be a Stan, but just you ain't.

[Mal]

No.

[Damaris]

Now once you start saying stand, you're not a stand of somebody. And didn't you know what time J. Cole takes a. When you're a stand.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

You know the products he uses and when he takes a shower, Stan is different. They know everything about this artist. You're not going to tell me a stand knows about the or heard about the warm up and never heard it. A stand.

[Mal]

A Stand knows that. I agree.

[Damaris]

That's a stand is different. You're gonna listen is different.

[Mal]

I think there's Die Hard Tyler fans now that have been around since Flower Boy that probably don't know much about the odd future come up.

[Damaris]

Okay.

[Mal]

They're. They're not diehard Earl fans.

[Damaris]

I'm with you on that.

[Mal]

They. They know Frank Channel Orange and after that.

[Damaris]

But. All right, but Frank Ocean don't got a project that they didn't hear.

[Rory]

They don't know the Lonnie Bro.

[Mal]

Yeah, they don't know the Lonnie Bro tape. I'm sure they don't know Not a fan.

[Damaris]

Not a fan. Not a fan fan. Not somebody just casually listens to.

[Mal]

There's probably Die Hard Frank fans since Channel Orange that have no idea about the Lonnie Bro tapes.

[Damaris]

I just find that hard to believe. If you cannot be a fan of.

[Mal]

Frank Ocean, they probably only know the major release of Nostalgia Ultra, not the actual mixtape because they released I Was at Def Jam when they re released Nostalgia Ultra. It's not the whole tape. A lot of is missing. Like American Wedding's not on there because it's an eagle song. It's a bunch of that didn't make it. It's like Swim Good Novocaine Straw. It's like a few records. They only know that version of that mixtape because that's what was released to the masses. Even Die Hard fans, some of them are not tech geeks. They fucking search the way we search. They just go to their DSP and they click albums and they become Die Hard fans of that. They don't know Frank cuts. They don't know. They don't know his Justin Bieber records that didn't make it. And the references made it on Lonnie Bro. Like they don't know all that.

[Damaris]

I just. When you say fan, I just think that fans know Shout Out Beaver's great everything. I think they. They know about their favorite artists. They know all that work. They've heard it. It. They have it if it's available.

[Rory]

I just given a lot of people casuals.

[Damaris]

Casuals. I understand. If you just somebody that just casually listens to Frank Ocean or you know somebody like that, then it's like, okay, we don't. I don't expect them to have heard the Lonnie Bro stuff and all that. I. That is fan. No, that's.

[Julian]

Yeah. I think we're just all thinking of different. Different definitions of fans. I'm sure there are people who are like, oh, yeah, I'm a fan of J. Cole who do not know that the come up exists.

[Mal]

There's. There's plenty of people know. We even go with Kia as an example. Die Hard Frank Ocean fan. She could recite Blonde up and down. Had no idea that a day before Endless came out, an entire Frank Ocean album. Had no idea.

[Rory]

Yeah, that makes sense.

[Mal]

And she is a diehard.

[Julian]

She could recite.

[Mal]

She. She's one of those that probably will send me tweets like, did you know that Frank went to stop and shop today?

[Rory]

No. He bikes.

[Mal]

There was a. You know, there was a sighting of Frank. Like, she's on that type of time. Tumblr girl loved Frank, but had no idea that Endless came out the day before Blonde, a full project. I was playing that in the car. She's like, did you get, like, unreleased Frank? I was like, no, this came out the day before Blonde, and she's a Die Hard fan. Some people just don't pay attention the way we pay attention because our whole lives surround this. Don't me. I don't like when you me.

[Julian]

Hey, yo, he driving his point home. We said agree to this.

[Damaris]

I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

[Mal]

I'm just a chill guy.

[Damaris]

Him. Yeah, I'm just a chill guy. Like, that's all my. Was me chilling. Like, that's what I'm trying to say.

[Mal]

Put your hands in your pocket.

[Damaris]

I'm saying I'm chilling, man. I don't want no smoke.

[Mal]

All right, so back to my original point.

[Julian]

What was it?

[Mal]

It was about the new artist quote from the Grammys.

[Julian]

Okay.

[Mal]

When they tried to finally save face.

[Rory]

Oh, here it is. Little. Little. Does it matter if they have just a few singles or 10 studio albums under their belts? The new artist category is all about highlighting how an act pushes creative boundaries and challenges a saturated industry with outstanding and sometimes surprising music.

[Mal]

That's for best new artists. So I think in a Grammy cycle, a J. Cole mixtape that he puts on DSPs that the whole world didn't know about could be put up for Rap Album of the Year by the Grammy standards. I think that's fair.

[Julian]

It would never be Rap Album of the Year because it would never cause a big stink because it's old.

[Rory]

That's not true. Travis Scott just did.

[Mal]

Yeah, it went number one, but it's not. And beating up Scotty when she added those three records charted like, I think Nikki could have been up for something would beat me up, Scotty.

[Julian]

Yeah, but it wasn't going to go up for best new album.

[Mal]

I know. Because everyone has thought there's no way an old mixtape that's being put on DSPs could. And the Grammys is now saying new does not matter when it comes to these categories. Somebody could have 10 studio albums. They could be a new artist. This is an old mixtape, but now that the world knows about it, why can't it be in the category this year? It made. It made leverage this year.

[Julian]

I think it's a little bit different. I get where you're coming from, though, but I think it's a little different than artists and project.

[Mal]

I'm a chill guy.

[Rory]

Well, we briefly were tiptoeing around the actual nominations for Grammys. We haven't had that conversation yet. Do you guys want to dig into.

[Mal]

I mean, we did sort of. We know that Not like us is nominated 35 times.

[Julian]

That's fine.

[Rory]

Record of the year, not like Us. Song of the year not like Us. Rap song of the year is not like Us like that. Rhapsody's Asteroids tied. Yay. Tied. Alzheimer Carnival.

[Mal]

Asteroids is fine.

[Rory]

Glorillas. Yeah. Glow. Oh, good for. I know she got nominated.

[Mal]

Am I crazy for saying that Yaglo, like, kind of deserves that. That award.

[Damaris]

What is it? Song. Best rap.

[Rory]

Best rap song.

[Mal]

I mean, out of all those records, strip away, like, the moment of everything that was going on.

[Rory]

You can't do that.

[Julian]

Yeah. It doesn't work like that.

[Rory]

That's why it's nominated.

[Mal]

Fair. That's a very fair point.

[Damaris]

He tried to take away the whole. Yeah, but if you take away the.

[Mal]

Whole moment, if you take away the reason the Grammys exist, the whole reason is nominated. Okay. I think that that record has. I don't want to use integrity because that's going to get us in a whole different thing. That record has no optics around it. That is a legit hit record. You take away everything that one stands. There's no. There's no real industry connection around that record. That's just a record that went.

[Damaris]

Yeah, Glo.

[Mal]

Yeah. And stuck around for a while, too. Like that, I think, is an incredible record. It came and went, but it only came and went because the battle happened right after that. That. Not Like Us. We already know what that is. The Rhapsody Hitboy Asteroids record. I. That's just a beautiful rap record. But the Grammys doesn't Always like, beautiful rap records. I think Yaglo deserves that Grammy. That was a joke. That stood the test of the year to me. Like, no bells and whistles on it. That played everywhere no matter where you were at. Yeah, GLOW went off.

[Damaris]

I agree.

[Mal]

But I know it'll go to Not Like Us.

[Rory]

And well deserved, but not like this is also in Song of the Year.

[Mal]

Shibuzi's gonna get that.

[Julian]

Shibuzi. If Shaboozi, if. Let me tell y'all something is the only if. Sabrina Carpenter.

[Mal]

I can see your guess, Shaboozi.

[Julian]

I'm gonna lose my mind. I might actually lose.

[Mal]

There's a chance that that could happen, but I think it's between Sabrina and Shabuzzi.

[Julian]

Oh, wait.

[Mal]

No.

[Julian]

Sorry. Billie Eilish should win.

[Rory]

Eek.

[Julian]

Sorry. I'm so sorry, y'all. I am.

[Mal]

Birds of a Feather is great, but.

[Julian]

Birds of a Feather is better than every song on there.

[Damaris]

What song is Birds?

[Mal]

From this rendition. How did you not get it?

[Damaris]

Yeah, from that rendition. That song sucks.

[Julian]

I want you to stay Till I'm in the grave Till I'm.

[Mal]

It's a great record.

[Julian]

Oh, my God.

[Rory]

No.

[Mal]

It's really small.

[Rory]

That whole hour.

[Julian]

My said if you go, I'm going too. Cause it was always you.

[Rory]

That whole album is fire.

[Damaris]

She lying like a murder she don't mean that shit.

[Julian]

Till I'm in the grave Dead and buried Till I'm in the casket you carry, period.

[Mal]

You don't get to choose that Paul Baron ass bitch.

[Damaris]

That's a family call.

[Julian]

God, man. Birds of a Feather. I hope Shaboozie wins, because Shaboozi was number one for, like, 365 days. But birds of a Feather is the best song on there.

[Mal]

I'm not mad at that take.

[Julian]

If Taylor Swift wins, we gotta shoot her.

[Rory]

I'm sorry. Record of the year. The Beatles are nominated.

[Mal]

Oh, it's okay when it's the Beatles and it's old.

[Damaris]

What song is the Beatles?

[Mal]

J. Cole can't.

[Rory]

That's why I brought it up. What is that?

[Mal]

Yeah. No. No one's arguing with the Beatles, huh? But when I say J. Cole.

[Damaris]

Yeah, I mean that. I don't even.

[Mal]

Now y'all just chill.

[Damaris]

Guys are even nominated for record.

[Rory]

Ringo not playing the. Out of a guitar.

[Mal]

Well, Durango was the trump.

[Rory]

Whatever.

[Julian]

So these are all records of the year.

[Rory]

Quincy said they all couldn't play for. I love him, George.

[Mal]

Especially though Quincy.

[Rory]

Quincy was like. These guys couldn't play.

[Mal]

Ringo was. Ringo is not a great drummer, but he Held. Oh, Jordan's probably one of the worst bass players.

[Rory]

He was very critical like that.

[Damaris]

He couldn't play for.

[Mal]

Man, you like Brazilian music.

[Julian]

So record of the year. I have to look this up. I know we looked it up before, but just. Record of the year deals with a specific recording of a song and recognizes the artists, producers, engineers who contribute to that recording, while song of the year deals with the composition of a song and recognizes the songwriters. So song of the year is more about the actual song. Record of the year is more about the recording of a song. That's so stupid.

[Mal]

It's a more intricate. It appreciate. It appreciates more of the details.

[Julian]

More of the details of the song. Song is more of the lyrics and the melody and.

[Mal]

Yeah, probably more impact as well.

[Julian]

Yes.

[Mal]

But, I mean, that's the case, though. I mean, Beyonce, Texas hold'em has a lot of great.

[Damaris]

Okay. I was greater. I was waiting for somebody to play that.

[Mal]

Like, Hit boy and them smoked that.

[Julian]

If it's a record of the year, it might be not. I might have to lean towards not like Us.

[Rory]

White girls had a huge summer. Sabrina Carpenter and Chapel Ron are, like, everywhere right now.

[Damaris]

You don't feel like not like us is. This is the record of the year.

[Mal]

And I don't even think he's being biased right now. If it comes to the intricate. Like a mustard beat that he sent over and didn't mix, and then Kendrick just threw up.

[Julian]

He didn't mix is so funny.

[Mal]

Like, that's not. That's not. It could be no song of the year. I'm with y'all. Song of the year for sure.

[Julian]

I'm not talking about who. I'm no longer talking about who I think should win. I already said who I think should win. Talking about who I think might win.

[Damaris]

There's a difference who you think might win.

[Julian]

So I'm saying for record of the year, I could see Kendrick possibly winning and then go down to song of the year. I think song of the year is going to Billy.

[Rory]

I don't think Kendrick will touch these two categories. I think he'll clean up in the hip hop ones.

[Mal]

Same.

[Rory]

They'll keep him in the black section.

[Julian]

True. Well, then if that's the case, then record of the year will probably go to. Record might go to. Okay. Record might go to Billy, and then song might go to Shaboozi.

[Mal]

Yeah, I'm not mad at that take.

[Julian]

But they can give. Yeah, they're gonna give Sabrina something she's got.

[Damaris]

I don't know, man. I feel like, they gonna give Kendrick all of them.

[Mal]

Isn't for rap for sure, but Sabrina's.

[Rory]

Got to be up for best new artist. I would imagine it's her. Kendrick's probably gonna win best rap song.

[Mal]

I think that's why the Grammys put that quote out, is because Sabrina is up for best new artist.

[Rory]

Oh, really?

[Mal]

She's. She has six albums, and she's 25.

[Julian]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Rory]

Workhorse.

[Julian]

But she's new to the. She's new to the.

[Mal]

Yeah, no, I. I get it.

[Rory]

Best rap album. What do you got?

[Damaris]

They got to change that, though. That's. She's not a new artist.

[Julian]

I think Eminem's gonna be the best rap album.

[Damaris]

Yeah, they got to change that. That's just unfair.

[Mal]

Best rap album. Future Metro, we don't trust you. JCole might delete later. Common, Pete, Rock, Doi, and then Eminem.

[Julian]

I think Eminem's gonna win. I think doi should win, but I think Eminem's gonna win, actually. I'm not gonna lie. I think jcole should win, but that's just my bias. But I think Eminem is gonna win.

[Damaris]

I like that, though. She said it was up.

[Mal]

I think Dochi should win. I think Future and Metro are gonna win.

[Julian]

Okay, I can see that.

[Mal]

And if I were to go second on who I think should win, it would be Future Metro as well.

[Julian]

You think Future or Metro's album was better than Mike? Delete later.

[Mal]

My personal taste. No, but that. The Grammys is my personal taste.

[Julian]

Okay.

[Mal]

Yeah. I think they would easily win over an ep.

[Rory]

Best rap song, and when.

[Mal]

It sold, it went number one.

[Rory]

Best song like that. Asteroids, Carnival. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You guys did say that. Rap performance thoughts on this one?

[Mal]

Eminem, Houdini, for sure. Actually, you know what? I take back best rap song for Glorilla Yaglo. I think she should win best rap performance for sure. Her performance on that record is fire, though. I think not like us is going to clean up all of this.

[Julian]

I think Nissan Altima should win.

[Rory]

That's a great performance.

[Julian]

I also think that Cardi went crazy on Enough, but nobody gives her credit for that. It just didn't hit. I don't think it hit for the masses. But Cardi went crazy on enough.

[Rory]

I don't even know.

[Mal]

See, I think. I think Dochi, they're gonna try to sneak one in for her. But with all the Kendrick Lamar in the rap performance, rap song, I just think they're gonna give everything to him.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Yeah, I think he's definitely gonna win best rap Performance.

[Rory]

Best melodic rap performance, Big Mama.

[Mal]

Big Mama. Yo, it's a joint. I mean, they better give it should be nominated.

[Julian]

They better give it to Big Mama. If they don't give it. If I'm here to tell y'all right now, that get ass shit to that awful Beyonce song, don't do that to Scott. I hate that song.

[Rory]

Ooh. I like. We still don't trust you.

[Julian]

Oh, no, I'm sorry. Kehlani's on there. Nevermind. Get out of Kehlani. Get out to the Karani song.

[Mal]

I really. And I love that melodic rap, though.

[Damaris]

That's what Kehlani's record. That's. I don't think that's melodic. Right.

[Julian]

I like the way your body is. Is that too obvious? Okay. I like your confidence. Being confident.

[Mal]

It's not really. Best rap melodic. It's a great song.

[Julian]

Have y'all heard the chorus? I mean, not the chorus. The. The verses. The verses is melodic.

[Rory]

It's melodic rap, I guess I only know.

[Mal]

But the rest of them, like. But even the Beyonce joint, I think. Think Lotto actually is the perfect example of melodic rap in that category.

[Damaris]

I mean, if you got best melodic rap and Futures there, you got to.

[Rory]

Go with Future and the Weekend on the hook.

[Mal]

That song is.

[Rory]

The song is hard.

[Damaris]

It is.

[Julian]

It's not harder than. It did not go harder than that Kehlani song with Jordan. No, it didn't.

[Mal]

We still don't trust you was like. It was an intro, right?

[Rory]

That was the intro.

[Mal]

It was a great, crazy, great, great record. I do. It's one of my favorite off that album. It didn't have much impact, though. It's like a fire intro. Yeah. It's not really, like, a Grammy song.

[Rory]

The Weekend croons on that one.

[Julian]

As much as I love Big Mama, Jordan deserves that. Jordan deserves that.

[Mal]

I wouldn't be mad at anything in this. This category. I. I think they got.

[Rory]

Except Beyonce.

[Julian]

Well, I don't like that Beyonce song. And y'all know. Can't nobody say I'm hating on Beyonce because y'all know how hard I go about Beyonce.

[Damaris]

I like to. I like the. The Kehlani record probably the most out all those.

[Rory]

That's a good song.

[Julian]

That was everywhere.

[Rory]

Best rap album, Future Cole, Common, P. Rock, Dochi, Eminem, M. Em is gonna win.

[Mal]

EM is not gonna win. EM is gonna win.

[Damaris]

He better not win best rap album.

[Mal]

They're not. Eminem is not hired everybody on that list.

[Damaris]

I don't care about that. That was not the best rap album in that in that group right there. No.

[Mal]

Eminem wins one Grammy out of this entire thing.

[Julian]

You gonna riot and then playing and say we shouldn't watch this and then watching it next, I'm gonna be a.

[Mal]

Chill guy and not even say a word. I'm gonna giggle to myself.

[Rory]

I'm so chill. Give Eminem all the awards.

[Julian]

Yeah, I'll never be that chill.

[Mal]

I think this will go to Future. A metro booming.

[Rory]

I think it should, though.

[Mal]

All right.

[Damaris]

They're gonna try to give it the cold, man. I feel like they go try to give cold.

[Mal]

Here's the thing, though. This is what people aren't talking about. Remember when the Grammys did the hip hop 50th tribute? Questlove smoked that entire thing. There was some shit with Future. Remember, he left because he was nominated for a bunch of shit it and never showed up. I mean, never won an award. There is a quiet beef between Future and the Grammys right now. So where he is deserving in a.

[Damaris]

Lot of these categories, they might not give.

[Mal]

They have some tension because he might.

[Damaris]

Not even be there. So Future.

[Mal]

Yeah, there's. There's tension. So we'll see. Even if it's deserved.

[Damaris]

Y'all think Cole goes to the Grammys?

[Julian]

I would. I don't see Cole going to the Grammys even if this year never happened. He just don't. He's not a Grammy goer.

[Mal]

Well, he went one time and became a meme.

[Julian]

Yes.

[Mal]

He won and was like, he aim it back then.

[Julian]

But yeah.

[Rory]

I don't remember that.

[Mal]

He even rapped about it on one intro. They got me at the Grammys clapping this.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Mal]

You don't remember that meme?

[Rory]

Oh, wow, that's old.

[Mal]

But he's not really a Grammy guy, and I don't think he expected to be nominated.

[Damaris]

Yeah. No.

[Mal]

So I think he's going to continue to do these writing camps and random locations and he'll be skipping at the end of January.

[Damaris]

I mean, I can't wait to see who wins. I can't wait. When is the Grammys? January?

[Mal]

Last weekend of January.

[Rory]

Isn't always February.

[Damaris]

Okay.

[Mal]

You want to go out there?

[Damaris]

No.

[Mal]

You want to make your presence felt.

[Damaris]

The Grammys?

[Mal]

Yeah. No, not go to the Grammys. Like, just. Just, you know, let LA know you around.

[Damaris]

For the Grammys?

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Julian]

Yo, for the Grammys.

[Damaris]

Never want to do that.

[Julian]

Well, is there any R B categories that you can pull up? You can pull up every rap one.

[Rory]

This is all I got on this article. I did want to ask because none of the records obviously got nominated. His name's not on here at all. None of Drake's stuff got nominated this year.

[Mal]

What surprise was for all the Dogs in Grammy cycle?

[Rory]

Not that. I mean like of the. The singles and stuff you put out.

[Mal]

I mean, would they.

[Rory]

Why not?

[Julian]

Not like us.

[Rory]

Not like us.

[Mal]

That's why the whole award show they.

[Damaris]

Submitted for that though and not like.

[Mal]

Us was drastically different than all of those records.

[Rory]

Family Matters.

[Mal]

It's like a nine minute diss record.

[Julian]

I said it.

[Mal]

I know that they mad like that's not video. That would be like if that wasn't.

[Damaris]

That wasn't Drake's aim here. He wasn't aiming. It's like this is gonna be Grammy.

[Mal]

And that would be like if Kendrick submitted like Meet the Grams, like it just wouldn't make sense. So no, I don't think it's weird that Drake any of his diss records weren't nominated. I thought you guys were talking more about like the Lucy's that were on 100 gigs or for all the Dogs and none of those were even like major releases. He put them out on a website. So no, I.

[Julian]

That. That Drake Lucy with lotto act like you. Riding the stick act like you. She performed that at Barclays. I was doing Maggie's and Chills.

[Damaris]

I thought you was chilling.

[Julian]

I never said I was chilling at that lotto concert.

[Damaris]

That's what we keep saying. That you don't be chilling. You cry that Gunner. You torque those states with Ice Spice.

[Julian]

What do all those places have in comments? I don't chill at concerts because concerts. I realize concerts aren't the. Are the only place I get pissy drunk, like pass out drunk are concerts. And I think it's because I'm having so much fun.

[Rory]

That's real sick.

[Julian]

I don't realize how much I'm drinking because I'm like paying attention to a show. That's the only time I get like up is at concerts.

[Rory]

Jesus. R B. This is the best R B song category. We have Kehlani Thames, Coco Jones, Money Long and SZA Saturn.

[Julian]

Saturn will win.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Julian]

It's not the best one, but Saturn will win.

[Mal]

As it should, in my opinion.

[Rory]

Best traditional R B performance. Love, Kenyon Dixon, Marsha Ambrosia, Kenny Dixon, Lala Hathaway, Money Long and Lucky Day.

[Julian]

Actually, no, none of those songs that.

[Mal]

Lucky day, Michael McDonald's very good algorithm is. It's between Leon Thomas and Lucky Day for me for best R B album this year. Like my personal favorites. That Lucky Day algorithm is incredible. Did Leon Thomas was. Was Mutt in gram cycle. There's no. There's no way he was not nominated. That was Grammy cycle in cycle.

[Rory]

This is best.

[Mal]

He better be nominated next year.

[Rory]

Best progressive R B album.

[Julian]

Duran will probably win.

[Mal]

I like to know where he's joint. Yeah, yeah.

[Damaris]

Duran. Bernard probably wouldn't.

[Mal]

Yeah, yeah, for sure.

[Rory]

And best R B album.

[Mal]

It's Quavo money. Long Lucky Day. Usher.

[Damaris]

That's not. Who's up there?

[Rory]

Am I rude for saying this is a weak lineup? It seems very, very weak.

[Mal]

I should have held.

[Rory]

My rap was weak, too. I didn't want to, like, single out anybody or diss anybody, but, like, overall, this Grammy cycles pretty mid.

[Mal]

Yeah, it wasn't a great year. Good, good music within the year. But as far as a whole now, this was not it. I think Lucky Day should win this.

[Damaris]

R and B album.

[Mal]

Yeah. I can see them giving it to Chris Brown, though.

[Julian]

I can't. But I do think.

[Mal]

I don't think it's all forgiven. They just did a Hulu doc.

[Rory]

They just did a Hulu doc.

[Mal]

Hulu just be pumping out docs. Chris Brown, French Montana. Who. Who wants a doc?

[Julian]

Well, French is Paramount plus.

[Mal]

Okay, my bad. I gotta watch. Are they owned by the same.

[Julian]

Oh, guys, the song that made us viral and has all the children, by the way, one of my bonus children hit me and said, you went.

[Damaris]

Wait, wait, wait, wait.

[Julian]

One of my bonus kids that aren't mine that I love. Bonus children.

[Damaris]

How many you got?

[Julian]

Kids that aren't mine that I love. My friends have kids.

[Damaris]

Okay, so that's like nieces and nephews.

[Julian]

When me. When I said that, I don't think that Ariana Grande sings better than Brandi and Monica. Remember that viral moment? It's still going viral on Kid TikTok, by the way, because she wrote me and, like, she has. Her TikTok is, like, set up for. You can't see certain shit if you're under a certain age. She was like, why am I seeing you? And why are you saying this? Why would you say that about Ariana? Like, she went crazy in my inbox.

[Mal]

That said what in your.

[Julian]

Yeah, I don't.

[Rory]

She said, ariana. I like the remake, but they should have picked somebody else besides Ariana.

[Mal]

Okay? And then Ariana Grande was hopped in.

[Julian]

Your DMs and was like, no, my bonus child. Which I said. And then y'all interrupted me. Yes, bonus child.

[Mal]

You're.

[Julian]

Why were you talking shit about Ariana Grande? Oh, because that clip is still going viral. The song that we were talking. Talking about in the clip is nominated for a Grammy.

[Rory]

So you're wrong.

[Julian]

I was. I never. I said I like the song.

[Rory]

Damaris admits she was wrong.

[Damaris]

Well, that's how.

[Rory]

Clip that. Put that on viral Tick tock.

[Damaris]

No, but you were saying Ariana. They shouldn't have did it with Ariana's. What you.

[Julian]

No, that's not. I said I. You didn't say that's not what.

[Damaris]

Okay, what did you say? I'm sorry.

[Julian]

Thank you. What I said was I wish that. It was just. I wish I could have gotten A Boy is Mine part two with just Brandy and Monica. I didn't say they shouldn't have did it with Ariana Grande. It's Ariana Grande's song. I just said I wish I could have gotten a Brandy and Monica part two.

[Damaris]

No, I think you said Ariana without Brandy and Monica.

[Julian]

I also did. I said she. I don't think that she can sing as well as Brandy and Monica. And I also came out here and retracted. I do think that Ariana Grande sings better than Monica. I'm standing on my Brandy take.

[Damaris]

Okay. I'm not mad at.

[Julian]

I'm also standing on my Mariah Carey take.

[Rory]

Oh, big word.

[Damaris]

Iana. Mariah sings better than Ariana.

[Julian]

Yes.

[Damaris]

Okay.

[Mal]

I'm with Brandy, Ariana, Monica.

[Rory]

And where would you put Mariah on that.

[Julian]

That.

[Mal]

Brandy, Mariah, Ariana Grande, Monica.

[Rory]

She's laughing. Darius.

[Julian]

I didn't laugh. I choked. But that's. It's okay. We're not going to argue that again. We've already argued it.

[Damaris]

Brandy, Mariah.

[Mal]

What? I. That wasn't a scathing take. That was actually pretty sound.

[Damaris]

Brandy, Mariah, Ariana. You don't like that Brandy.

[Julian]

He's fine. It's fine.

[Mal]

He's. She told me I'm good.

[Julian]

He's fine. He's cool.

[Rory]

He's finest. He's a chill guy.

[Mal]

That's how fights start now. You good? Wait, you don't get to decide if I'm good or not.

[Damaris]

I don't know.

[Julian]

But it's. It's nominated. Julian had it up. It's nominated for best pop performance or.

[Rory]

Pop duo or something like that.

[Mal]

And I mean not to react that combo. I would have liked someone else too, but I totally understand Ariana Grande being the next person to remix the boy's Mind because she's the new vocal.

[Rory]

Also, wicked is getting very high reviews. The early reviews are in. It was like 96 or something like that.

[Mal]

That's good.

[Julian]

I can't Wait to see it.

[Mal]

Who should redo? Same girl. Girl. Since we're just doing these remixes.

[Julian]

No one. Let's leave that alone.

[Mal]

Chris Brown and Quavo, you.

[Damaris]

You'll always find a way to just do too much sometimes. If.

[Rory]

If that song carries over into reality and if. And if it is true that R. Kelly and Usher were in fact dealing with the same girl.

[Julian]

It's not true.

[Rory]

Then this.

[Julian]

It's not true.

[Damaris]

Then.

[Julian]

It's not true.

[Mal]

They have different taste.

[Damaris]

Then they should be cellies is what you said.

[Mal]

That's what I'm saying.

[Rory]

Like, if their interests lie within the same realm, then that girl was probably 14.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Julian]

No, I think for the song best pop duo group, I think Die with a Smile with Lady Gaga and Bruno Mars will win, even though I've never heard that song in my life.

[Rory]

Yeah. What is.

[Damaris]

So how did you land on that?

[Julian]

Because it is.

[Mal]

When it wins.

[Julian]

I don't want to hear anything. It's.

[Damaris]

It's like it's always the songs you.

[Julian]

Never heard, always the songs you never heard. And people say it's the biggest song of the year. And I'm like, I've never heard that song in my life.

[Damaris]

It becomes the biggest song after they give them the Grammy. It's like, oh, you didn't hear. You hear that everywhere. Bloomingdale's, Macy's been playing that.

[Mal]

They trick my mom with the Oscars every time when. When she gets nominated, she texts me, yo, we need to see these five movies.

[Julian]

Get her every.

[Mal]

And I'm like, no, we don't.

[Rory]

These are the category. The artists for best new artists. This is what we were talking about earlier. Benson Boone, Sabrina Carpenter, Dochi cr. I never know their name, but they are my favorite artists on this. They're the. My personal favorite on this list. Ray Chapel, Roan Shabuzzi, and Teddy Swimming.

[Mal]

Okay. This is a great category. The way we were talking about the other things being liked this year. Best new artists. This might be the best category.

[Damaris]

I just saw Dochi set at Camp Flognor.

[Mal]

Ray is fired. But come on. Teddy Swims is still on the top 10 billboard. And how many weeks has it been?

[Damaris]

Yeah, Teddy Swims.

[Mal]

It's been like two years.

[Julian]

I meant to tell personal.

[Damaris]

I'll go with you on that.

[Julian]

I mean to tell you that I want you to work with Ray.

[Mal]

I would love to.

[Damaris]

I love Ray. I meant to tell you I want you to work. You know, I meant to tell you you should work with.

[Julian]

With Teddy Swims, but Ray is Ray. Some stuff at the time, I wanted to tell him that Ray was not dead nominated for a Grammy and she was still fake lowkey, like fake underground.

[Damaris]

But yeah, you're probably not gonna get that record now. Now she's nominated, she's out of here.

[Mal]

True story. In the early POD days, I did have somebody in the industry that will remain nameless texted me with. With a list of names of people that we should interview. And I said, oh, I never thought of that. The list was like, J. Cole, Kendrick.

[Rory]

Damn.

[Mal]

I think, oh, they should come on the pod.

[Damaris]

You wasn't even thinking about J. Cole and Kendrick?

[Mal]

No, actually I turned Cole down.

[Damaris]

Yeah, Tony.

[Mal]

It wasn't a good fit.

[Damaris]

Yeah, it's not our demo.

[Mal]

Do we have voicemails?

[Damaris]

You've got mail.

[Mal]

Help.

[Rory]

We do. As a reminder, call in if you subscribe to any Patreon tier. You have access to our voicemails. It is pinned to the top of our Patreon. You can access the link there and leave a voicemail no longer than 90 seconds. If you do want to re record your voicemail, do not explain that you up the first one. Just send another voicemail. Let's get into it.

[Damaris]

Yo, what up, pod? I want to be anonymous, but sometimes I'll be listening to this with my.

[Rory]

Girl around or whatever.

[Mal]

She knows your voice.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

She don't know his voice. She don't even listen to that.

[Rory]

That's crazy.

[Damaris]

Dilemma. Me and my girl, we've been together for two years. She's cool.

[Mal]

The relationship going well.

[Damaris]

It's just she's on medicine that lowers her libido to the point we haven't touched each other since September. And like, I'm a pretty sexual guy. Like I don't expect sex every day.

[Mal]

He's a chill guy though. Though.

[Damaris]

More than what we doing right now. And now. Recently, I got a message from a girl that I used to talk to before I got with my current girlfriend.

[Mal]

Don't do it. Reconsider.

[Damaris]

Read some litter.

[Mal]

On that subject, are you sure?

[Damaris]

She's telling me how much she missed the way I taste. How like she got a present for me. And I know what it is. All right, man, hold on. How you know it's the holidays? You don't know what she peaked the Christmas, but you don't know what she got. It's the holidays.

[Mal]

Moms went to sleep, he went out sales everywhere.

[Damaris]

She could have got you something else.

[Rory]

It's probably her. No, that's.

[Mal]

Women think that's a gift.

[Damaris]

Yeah, it is a gift.

[Rory]

Damaris, continue The.

[Julian]

I'm just trying to join the new horrible decisions. Go ahead.

[Damaris]

Baby was a eater, bro. Like, I'm getting hit with flashbacks, sexual flashbacks. And they hitting like crack in the 80s, bro. Like, my mind's telling me, nah, don't do it. But my flesh is telling me, boy, you better go through with it. And I ain't gonna lie.

[Mal]

R. Kelly said the same thing.

[Damaris]

Low key, winning, bro. Like, like, let me know what y'all think.

[Rory]

I don't like how horny he sounds telling us this.

[Mal]

He said he was a sexual being.

[Rory]

He's so excited that he hasn't.

[Damaris]

He has the girl. He hasn't touched his girl since September.

[Rory]

Damn.

[Mal]

Like, like, it's November, bro.

[Rory]

Probably September 11th.

[Damaris]

Yeah, I should do. Should I just pursue the eater and just say, man, forget this whole non sex relationship, or should I try to stay the course and be with the girl because she is a good girl?

[Rory]

It's just sexist.

[Damaris]

Like, we just don't have sex. Like, wow, that was in.

[Rory]

That was a lot. Yeah.

[Damaris]

Damn. He.

[Mal]

He just got so horny.

[Rory]

I think he cut it off.

[Damaris]

He's so horny, he had to cut the feet.

[Mal]

He made himself horny. Just talking.

[Julian]

Go ahead, guys. What do you. What is your.

[Rory]

He definitely been beating off.

[Mal]

If you're in a committed relationship, see it through.

[Damaris]

If your girl is taking medication because obviously she's dealing with something that lowers her libido. I mean, you gotta, I don't know, at least first have a conversation with your. With your partner. I don't know, like, babe, listen, I know this medication is, you know, it has some effects and. But it's been since September. We haven't touched each other. We haven't made love. What's going on? I don't think you should just entertain the old fling who you know is gonna definitely not blow your socks off. And you just like, damn, I need to go get that. Talk to your partner.

[Mal]

And now. And now you the dirtbag that cheated on his girl when she was having some medical problems.

[Damaris]

Yeah, you don't wanna be that. You don't want that karma on you. You don't want that. So have the conversation with wifey. Let her. Babe, listen, you know, I understand, you know, going through something, going through it with you, obviously, but a man has needs, as does a woman.

[Mal]

I mean, maybe going to racist chat where they showing feet. Like, if you want to go online and get a little frisky, that's cool. But don't cheat on your girl, especially with a chick you already with like, that's all bad news.

[Rory]

But she has a gift, though.

[Damaris]

And we gotta Hopefully. Hopefully it is just the medication and she ain't got a little side.

[Mal]

Look at where your brain goes, man.

[Julian]

I think that's my biggest fear is getting cheated on. No matter what, he gonna bring up a woman cheating somehow.

[Damaris]

That could be. That could be an option.

[Julian]

He literally.

[Damaris]

You don't know that woman.

[Julian]

He explained to you what was going on with him. So he know her.

[Damaris]

All right, but so because. Because she's on medication means she ain't somebody else.

[Julian]

Yes, because he literally explained the medicine that she's on.

[Damaris]

We got that part. Does that mean she's not cheating?

[Mal]

I don't know them, but I'm probably gonna say, well, you don't know that.

[Damaris]

You don't. We don't know. He listening to a voice, but she's.

[Mal]

Taking medication that makes her not wanna.

[Damaris]

You don't know that woman. The you talking about.

[Julian]

He's telling you about his girl. He know her be knowing when they girl cheating.

[Rory]

Sometimes.

[Damaris]

You ain't talking. We acting like that's just complete. She's on medication. Not legs closed.

[Mal]

If. All right. Are we talking about if she's using fake medication to cheat? She's like a goat cheater. Like you just now.

[Julian]

She definitely gave me a cheating, like vibe. Like, she. Like, she gave me like some scripture. If I ever need to cheat, I would get on new medication. I'm just saying, like, if I was a cheater, if I was that type of person.

[Damaris]

You are a cheater. We're all cheaters. Everybody cheats.

[Julian]

No, that's not true, Mom. I cheated on five times a day.

[Damaris]

Everybody cheats, though. Everybody lies. Everybody cheats. Cut it out.

[Julian]

Everybody lies for sure.

[Damaris]

Yeah, they lying about not cheating. Exactly my point. Exactly.

[Mal]

They lie about. Babe, I didn't her.

[Damaris]

Come on, man.

[Rory]

She me.

[Julian]

Sir, I think that you should have a con. I think you should go M's route, have a conversation. And also don't tiptoe around that conversation because I don't blame you for wanting.

[Damaris]

Wake her up out her sleep. What's his name?

[Mal]

But medication makes you sleepy.

[Damaris]

Yeah, but shake that off.

[Rory]

Make sure when you have the conversation, you're not blaming her. Try to make the. The villain here, the medication be like, hey, I know this isn't you. I understand that these med. This medicine is what's making you act differently towards our sexual life. I just want to understand, like, what can we do? Like, don't be like you change sucks.

[Mal]

Now avoid all the sexual innuendos. Get a health update from her. Like, how long. Do you not say how long you have to be on this medication? But a health update? Like, no, how's the medication been doing for you? Like, what is your doctor saying? Is this something that will be cured?

[Damaris]

And how much longer you got to be on this? Medic say it's okay to say. Why y'all tiptoeing around a lot of. How much longer will you be on this medication? I'm horny. I haven't touched my girl in two months.

[Julian]

I think a lot of this, too, is. Well, sometimes. Well, the medication that I hear that makes you lower your libido is usually mental health medication. Antidepressants usually lower your libido. So if it's. If I have to choose between being mentally sane or, like, being horny so that I can you. That's a rough conversation. So I don't think that it's crazy to. Well, you know your girl better than I do, but I don't think it's crazy to bring up, hey, if this is going to continue to be a thing, because I do love you and I do want to be with you, we might have to discuss an open relationship. Do that before you go and cheat.

[Damaris]

But it would only be open.

[Mal]

What a loophole. My girl's not horny, and then she agrees to open relationship, but only be open one way. I'm the only one.

[Damaris]

Yeah, she ain't fucking right. Clearly. I mean, in your story, she's not a. She's not cheating. So it would only be the goddess story.

[Rory]

In the story. In his story, in the real story.

[Damaris]

He don't know that man. He don't know if his girl's another. Never know until they crying, panicking outside the ring camera.

[Mal]

That is true. Yeah.

[Damaris]

You don't know. I'm just saying, like, it's just her cousin. You have that conversation.

[Mal]

Meech told us.

[Damaris]

Yeah, you have that conversation. If you say open relationship, it's only gonna be you, somebody else. If she's, you know, her libido is low, and she don't even want to have sex. So at that point, it's like, what do I have a girlfriend?

[Rory]

Aren't there herbs?

[Julian]

Because girls are worth so much.

[Damaris]

Yeah, but if I'm somebody else and my girlfriend is just, like, at home, no dick. I just going on, like, yeah, I just finished. You know where I just came from?

[Mal]

She not cleaning, cooking.

[Damaris]

If you have a girl, you're not having sex with her with your roommates. What is that we not having sex together.

[Julian]

You don't think the only thing that makes you a relationship or relationship is a commitment to not fuck anybody else? You don't think that there's any.

[Damaris]

I'm not saying that. I'm saying that if you then give me. Yeah, you could go fuck other girls and you not fucking nobody else. What type of relationship is that?

[Rory]

Not mine.

[Julian]

If it works, it works. There's people in relationships like that. If it works, it works. We have a bond. We have an amazing friendship. We love each other.

[Damaris]

Let's do this.

[Julian]

Let's do this. Affectionate with each other. He said that she doesn't have a high.

[Damaris]

Okay, let's do this. Let's do this. If you were the girl and you have medication you was taking, your sex drive is low. Would you give your man permission to go fuck him up?

[Julian]

If I was not able to have sex? Yes, I would.

[Damaris]

And stay with him?

[Mal]

Yes. That's a uniform.

[Julian]

Yes, I would.

[Damaris]

And you wouldn't have nobody else.

[Julian]

I don't want to fuck my man. So, no, now I don't want to fuck anybody else either. My libido is low. I don't want to have sex. I'm not horny. I'm not in the mood to have sex if I'm in a relationship with someone, especially if I'm married and I love someone. I know that sex is a necessity to humans. If I can't have it and I can't provide it to you, then yes, go ahead and have sex with somebody else. I don't want you miserable. I don't want to take away your freedom. I'm also not going to leave you because of that.

[Damaris]

Okay, go have sex with somebody else. But then come home to me.

[Rory]

Yeah, because you're more in a relationship.

[Julian]

Because you think sex is like. Sex is not everything in a relationship. It's a huge thing. It's a big thing. It's not everything.

[Damaris]

I didn't say. I didn't say I thought sex was. I'm asking a question.

[Julian]

You said, why would you be together if you can't have sex? That's what you said.

[Damaris]

That wouldn't. Because. Because it's a big part of relationship. Obviously he's thinking about leaving his girl. He just called through the voicemail. I was minding my business. I was a chill guy.

[Mal]

He's.

[Julian]

He a slid in his DMs and he was ready to leave his girl. Either he don't.

[Mal]

He has his number. That wasn't a dm.

[Rory]

Yeah, he was not being a chill guy, honestly.

[Mal]

He has her. Her name saved with emojis.

[Damaris]

I just think. I just think giving your partner permission to somebody else, cuz you can't. Your partner and then being like, all right, I'm cool.

[Mal]

Let me clean up. Maul's original point, it was hilarious. But I think what Maul was trying to say. Correct me if I'm wrong.

[Rory]

I will please stop that. Maul.

[Mal]

What separates.

[Damaris]

I never said that.

[Mal]

Best friends. What separates best friends from partners?

[Damaris]

Sex.

[Mal]

That's what I think Ma was trying to get at. He just said it in a very hilarious way.

[Julian]

No, because there's mad best friends that have sex, and they're not in a relationship. Y'all don't think it's people out here? All right, we're not gonna do this. That's what. What the fuck you think a friend with benefit is? Niggas be having close as fuck.

[Damaris]

That's toxic.

[Mal]

That'll be your best. Best friend.

[Damaris]

That's toxic. Toxic. I'm talking about. I'm talking about. We started as a couple having sex. We started as a couple having sex. Everything cool. Medical condition. Still my girl. I love you. I'm staying with you. We don't have sex no more because of medication. I'm saying if you then say, yo, nah, go ahead. You know, I can't really. I'm not in the sexual mood no more. But go ahead. You can go fuck other girls. Just come home to me. That's just not realistic.

[Mal]

Okay?

[Damaris]

It's just not realistic.

[Julian]

It's not realistic for a lot of people. I'm not fighting you on the fact that it's not realistic.

[Damaris]

That's all I'm saying. It's just like. That's not. Not. How long does that last before it's like, all right, you coming in here, four in the morning, jumping straight in the shower. I know what that means. You just came from.

[Julian]

It's like, plenty of girls do that. They be getting cheated on, doing that. He be both of y'all. And people stay through that. So you don't think somebody can.

[Damaris]

Yeah, but now you know hopping straight.

[Mal]

In the shower when you get home is a sign of cheating, rookie. No, I'm saying, me, I get right in the shower when I'm not cheating.

[Julian]

Well, you funky.

[Mal]

Yeah, that's why you take a shower. No, I don't care what hour it is.

[Damaris]

That's rollover minute. You take a shower, no matter what. To throw the scent on off, you got to throw that bloodhound off. Throw all that off, Go home straight to the shower no matter what you was doing.

[Julian]

Plenty of people stay through cheating knowing they getting cheated on, knowing there's a side chick. No, plenty of people. There's plenty of people in polyamorous relationships where there's a whole lot living with them.

[Damaris]

Different tax bracket.

[Rory]

That's a good Pokemon it.

[Julian]

There's plenty of people that are not rich that do that, Ma.

[Damaris]

Yeah, those are like weirdos, though.

[Mal]

Nice. A lot of people that aren't rich.

[Damaris]

That do that, that have living partners with their other partners.

[Rory]

That's pretty common in, like, especially financially.

[Damaris]

Bills. They split. Oh, yeah.

[Mal]

Good strategy.

[Damaris]

Okay.

[Julian]

I just don't think that. I don't think that it's crazy on Craigslist that that could. That that type of relationship could work do. Am I saying that she's going to be happy about it? No, but it's like, if she's not willing to get off the medication, like. But she loves him. And it's like, yo, all right, I can't give you what I want to what you want. Go get it from somewhere else. And we still have our relationship. We're still building a family together. We're still building a future together. I'm not saying she's gonna agree to it. It's highly unlikely that she's not. What I'm saying is present the option to her before you go and cheat.

[Rory]

That's why I'm saying her meds out with a placebo, and then she'll slowly take her off the medication, and then she'll be thinking she's still taking it. So then before you know, she's just fine. And then she'll get a sex drive.

[Damaris]

It's kind of like mind over matter.

[Rory]

Right.

[Damaris]

Got you.

[Mal]

Or in. In a consensual way. Talk to your doctor, and maybe there is something she can take with her antidepressant.

[Rory]

Well, that's what I was gonna ask some macaroots.

[Mal]

Something that.

[Julian]

The doorknobs just get on. Macaroon drops.

[Mal]

I'm telling you, the one.

[Rory]

Yeah, that's good. Like, find an alternative medicine where it might increase her libido to kind of counteract what the antidepressants are doing or whatever she may be on. I don't want to put that on her.

[Mal]

Delete those text messages and block that number.

[Rory]

Just not cranking a couple more times.

[Damaris]

Hey, don't listen to Rory.

[Rory]

You know, he's beating off to that text message.

[Mal]

That's his only joke.

[Damaris]

Not that horny.

[Rory]

Yeah, he is. He was doing it on the call.

[Mal]

He just called us. He's that horny?

[Damaris]

He wasn't beating off.

[Rory]

He cut the call ended because he finished, not because the time limit ran out.

[Damaris]

Do we have another voicemail? Don't tell me a guy called his. Ended the voice because he was jacking over.

[Mal]

Was it Louis ck?

[Damaris]

Are we talking about.

[Julian]

Louis CK Would definitely nut on a voicemail.

[Mal]

I mean, that's.

[Damaris]

He would tell you, I'm about to come.

[Mal]

That's.

[Rory]

I'm going to come.

[Mal]

That's how he got jammed up. Yo, what up? Rory and Mar Q from Charlotte rock.

[Damaris]

With y'all boys a long way.

[Mal]

Pause.

[Julian]

Thank you.

[Mal]

That's besides the point, though. So I'm calling in here.

[Damaris]

I've been beefing with my brother for.

[Mal]

Like, the past year. Like, my blood brother. I've been beefing with him for the past year. He came up. He came up to see me for my birthday, kicked it with me. I told him I a had no bread for real.

[Damaris]

But we were still using my bread.

[Mal]

For, like, my birthday stuff, like, and.

[Damaris]

He came up here.

[Mal]

I told him not to come.

[Damaris]

We was doing all this stuff that.

[Mal]

Like, to show him around the city.

[Damaris]

That he never been to.

[Mal]

And I'm paying for everything. Paying for. You know what I'm saying? Everything, really. I hit him up after the. After everything, you know, I'm saying everything died down. He went back home to Charlotte. I'm in Philly.

[Damaris]

I don't know if I said that.

[Mal]

He went back home and I hit him up. I was like, yo, like, you gonna pay me that bread back that you.

[Damaris]

Said you're gonna pay me back back?

[Mal]

He started cussing me out, and he started going off on me, blah, blah.

[Damaris]

And then just excommunicated from me. Just stopped talking to me. Type, like.

[Mal]

And I just want to know, like, am I tripping for, like, one, asking for the bread back? And two, am I tripping for, like, not talking to this? No more, like, because he stopped talking to me. But, like, I didn't hit him up on his birthday. He just liked the message. He ain't text me back. I seen a in person. He ignored me. Like, I'm not a person or whatever. Like, and it's all over some bread. Like, I'm not a person.

[Damaris]

Like, I just don't understand.

[Mal]

Am I tripping?

[Julian]

New voicemail rule. If you call in, do not be chewing gum asmr.

[Rory]

Hey, I thought you liked that.

[Julian]

Not that I don't want to hear nobody chewing gum.

[Mal]

We owe Angela Yee an apology. She made everyone. And that was like her thing.

[Damaris]

Chewing on Mike.

[Mal]

No, she would always make the guests spit out their gum. That was like her.

[Rory]

I mean, it's also like a respect thing.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Mal]

People still chew gum.

[Rory]

I chew gum at the gym, but that's the only place I know.

[Mal]

I was like, still at the.

[Rory]

I can't.

[Mal]

Roid Rage or some.

[Rory]

I can't lift without. I can't lift or play basketball without chewing gum. It's a weird, right? Wow.

[Damaris]

This think he Michael Jordan, man.

[Rory]

I can't.

[Damaris]

I can't play basketball without you. A go. Imagine you get to the parker. He's like, who has gum?

[Rory]

I've asked that before.

[Damaris]

I know you've asked that before. I know exactly the type of guy Julian is. Tape for my fingers. What? Go get. Get back on defense.

[Julian]

Who has tape for my finger?

[Rory]

Well, when I did break my pinky anyway.

[Damaris]

Yo, gentlemen, sir. What your name is Q. You not tripping. People tend to act funny when they know you know they're in the wrong.

[Mal]

Gaslighting 101.

[Damaris]

They'll act like you did wrong. Yeah, that's. You're not tripping, bro. That's what. That's what people do.

[Mal]

Typically, when people owe you money, they'll get mad at you for bringing it up.

[Damaris]

Yeah, they'll get mad when you ask.

[Mal]

Them, yo, about the money that you owe me.

[Damaris]

Yeah, they'll get mad at that and.

[Julian]

Like, yo, call a funky ass. Here are your funky ass.

[Damaris]

Yeah, yo. Damn. Like, it's like, this is my.

[Mal]

You needed my funky ass. $4.

[Damaris]

Not only that, this is my first time asking for this in two years.

[Mal]

Actually, my $4 smelt really good. Then it went to you. Now it's a funky ass. $4.

[Damaris]

Wait, is that the amount of one he's talking about?

[Julian]

I said 40. Oh, I always say somebody owe $40.

[Rory]

He said he covered him throughout the course of what's a weekend? So I would imagine a couple hundred coup bucks.

[Damaris]

Yeah. 2, 300.

[Julian]

And it'll even be about the principal because it's like, oh, you. You beefing me over some money. It's not even about. That's about the way you acted about the money. It's about your character.

[Damaris]

Yeah, you can't get mad when somebody asks you for something that you borrowed back.

[Rory]

Like, but this is also, like, not a friend. This is blood brother. So to, like, see him at family functions and, like, you know, wish him a happy birthday, and he just likes it. Like, this is family. Family.

[Damaris]

Yeah. Like, you act now you acting Like a weirdo.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

That money. Now you're just acting like a weirdo, though. Keep the money. I don't care. Let's. I just want my brother back.

[Julian]

If y'all parents still alive, go tell. Go tell on him.

[Mal]

That's crazy.

[Rory]

Go tell on him. He did say he himself. He's like, I'm not even that financially, you know, up right now either.

[Damaris]

Yeah, but if it's your brother, you try to find a way to help him out.

[Mal]

I mean, I've gotten to the point with loans with family members and friends that if I'm giving this to you, I've already made peace that I'm never gonna see this again.

[Damaris]

That's the only way you'll sleep in night. Like, don't even think about that money. It's gone. Take.

[Mal]

There was recently I gave somebody a nice chunk of change and Lon said, should I hit them for a payment plan? I've replied, lol, No, I. I kissed this money goodbye the second I sent it. I didn't. I didn't think nobody's gonna pay me back.

[Julian]

I have to wish loyal I would text my phone about a payment plan.

[Mal]

He was doing his job, but I was just like, no, bro, this is. This is gone. Like, factor in that this money will no longer be.

[Damaris]

You got to get to the. You got to get to the point where you. You know who's calling and why they call.

[Rory]

You got to find a way to make those attacks right off Rory.

[Mal]

Yeah, you can.

[Rory]

Okay.

[Mal]

That's why I said, loyon, this is gone. Let's. Let's make it work the way we can. This is gone now. I can't remember the last time I loaned somebody money where I thought they were gonna pay me back. It's been years, years and years since I thought that would ever happen.

[Damaris]

No. Now I give people, somebody, family or friends in a jam and they need something and I helped them, they'd be like, yo, I got you. No, you don't. Don't even say it. Just the fucking money and just fucking go, man. Man.

[Mal]

Yeah. Matter of fact, don't torture me with a conversation.

[Damaris]

Take the money.

[Mal]

Let's never talk about it again.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Like, I'll never bring it up. You don't need to bring it up.

[Damaris]

Hopefully this helps.

[Mal]

Yeah. And just.

[Julian]

It's always I never bring it up. Is going to bring it up.

[Damaris]

I've never brought it up. I've never brought up.

[Julian]

Somebody do something to piss you off.

[Damaris]

Never. Never.

[Julian]

And y'all suddenly remember how much money.

[Mal]

You no, I've thought it in my head. Don't, don't get it twisted. People have done up to me that I loan money to that. I thought in my head like, you got some nerve. But I would never say it to them.

[Damaris]

I don't say it. No. Hell no. I'm not that type of. I wouldn't even give somebod if I felt like I'm going to use that at a later date. I'm not that type of.

[Mal]

No, no, no.

[Damaris]

I would just laugh and be like, damn, that, that was crazy, like you talking to me like that. All right, you're gonna be in the jam again. That jam come around every month.

[Mal]

There goes your best eater. That jam, your best lender.

[Damaris]

That jam come around every first of the month. Like, oh, another jam, huh? I bet.

[Mal]

Yeah. I don't know. I mean, loaning money with family is always, always weird. I know we're not supposed to talk about Vinnie anymore because he's maga, but Vinnie who?

[Rory]

Our boy. Jersey Shore.

[Mal]

Jersey Shore.

[Damaris]

Why we can't talk about him because he's maga? We won the.

[Mal]

This is when winners are supposed to talk.

[Damaris]

Yeah, this is when we talk.

[Mal]

He had Barbara from Shark Tank on his pod, which is really cool because I, I, I stand Shark Tank. I know what Barbara, love Barbara. He had asked that question about, you know, family owing. You know, once you become financially sound, family comes to you all the time. She said everyone all of a sudden had a ten thousand dollar problem.

[Damaris]

Everybody.

[Mal]

And made me laugh when Chris Rock was talking to Jerry Seinfeld in Comedians Getting Coffee Car that people ask me for $5,000 like it's the time.

[Rory]

Yeah, that's a great line.

[Damaris]

It's true though.

[Mal]

So Barbara's like, yeah, all of a sudden everyone in my family had a $10,000 problem everyone needed. It's so weird. That specific amount that they needed, I needed. And she said, I called their bluff. I opened ten thousand dollar accounts for all my siblings kids for their college fund that would amount by the time that they got to college. They would basically have college for free. Don't ever ask me for a dollar now. And all of them still had this ten thousand dollar problem. He said, put some in writing for their children and call their bluff. Here you go. This is for your kids.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Why you need it.

[Damaris]

Right.

[Mal]

I'm doing for your kids.

[Damaris]

Right.

[Mal]

And that was her solution to everything makes sense.

[Damaris]

I like that.

[Rory]

Well, with the holidays coming up, I would assume he's going to see his brother. So do you think how should he go about that? Should this be something that's done?

[Damaris]

Leave it alone, man.

[Rory]

You gotta talk. I'm not here.

[Mal]

But first of all, leave it alone after. Thanks. You have to turn up Thanksgiving.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Julian]

You gotta shake the table.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Mal]

You come on.

[Julian]

It's like, yeah.

[Damaris]

No, not. You don't want to do that.

[Rory]

Past the macaroni broke ass.

[Mal]

It's not the only thing. He didn't pass. Like, you have to. There has to be some type of.

[Damaris]

You can't do that, man. You cannot.

[Mal]

But at Thanksgiving.

[Damaris]

You're gonna ruin Thanksgiving.

[Julian]

Hey, yo, bum, that's. Thanksgiving is to be ruined. Christmas is to be enjoyed, but Thanksgiving is to be ruined.

[Mal]

What?

[Damaris]

Who said that?

[Mal]

Thanksgiving is one of my favorite holidays. Cuz there's no pressure. Like, no one is expected to come with gifts. Like everyone is there to just eat food and enjoy each other's company. So you have to shake up.

[Damaris]

Thanksgiving is like the last supper. It is like the end of the year. Like the year in wrap up. Like your bum ass been doing all year. Like when you haven't seen your cousin in like seven, eight months.

[Mal]

So Jesus set the table for passive aggressive. If you look at the last supper the entire time, he's like, I know you will all betray me. I already know. Judas.

[Damaris]

Yeah, I know.

[Mal]

Have some bread.

[Damaris]

Here's some wine, some cheese.

[Mal]

I already know where the hammer and nails is at. I know what time it is. I got my itinerary for tomorrow. That's why I'm just trying to break bread. Yeah, Thanksgiving should reflect that.

[Damaris]

That makes sense.

[Mal]

Christmas, there's too much pressure with kids and gifts. Like, you can't really turn it up because you could ruin like children's view of Christmas.

[Damaris]

Oh, I can't wait to Thanksgiving, man.

[Mal]

Let it turn that shit into why did I get married? One dinner table scene.

[Damaris]

I'm gonna ruin Thanksgiving. Something vicious this year. Not only am I vegan, I ruin it every year for that.

[Mal]

Oh, we're saving this for Patreon because I heard that you were going to give up your vegan.

[Rory]

I heard you about to eat some meat.

[Mal]

That's going to be a Patreon conversation because this has to be because of a Babbage. There's no way you're doing it for some sound reason. No, but we'll talk about on Patreon.

[Damaris]

I'm not vegan for religious reasons. I just.

[Rory]

For the vibes. You're just.

[Damaris]

It just gave up meat. Yeah. For four years.

[Rory]

Chill, vegan.

[Damaris]

Yeah, just chill.

[Mal]

Versus.

[Rory]

I did want to Add to that to the quick anecdote about Thanksgiving. Historically, television shows also always save, like their biggest drama moments for a Thanksgiving episode. So that reigns. True to the Thanksgiving just being a mess, I would say which show that I'm thinking of, but you guys would make fun of me.

[Mal]

Oh, the bear went crazy for Thanksgiving.

[Rory]

It's Gossip Girl.

[Mal]

Never watched it.

[Julian]

We literally didn't ask you that. Like, we didn't ask you. Like you could have just kept that to yourself.

[Rory]

Great show then. The original one, not the remake where they made.

[Mal]

I'm not going to tell you, but I'm going to tell you.

[Damaris]

Tickets available now. New Rory mall dot com. If you're listening to this, we are in Atlanta, Georgia, tonight.

[Mal]

Thank you for coming out and thank.

[Damaris]

You for coming out. If you're on your way here listening to the show now, we're in Atlanta. If you're listening to this, the audio experience.

[Mal]

If you're watching this on video, thank you for coming out.

[Damaris]

Yeah. If you're watching us. Thank you. It was good seeing you. You, you and you and you and you.

[Mal]

What? What a show. Me and what a show.

[Damaris]

What a black.

[Mal]

Your mother and your cousin, too.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Atlanta.

[Damaris]

Yes, I got it. Rory. No, but like, I got it. Thank you. We will be home in New York City December 14th. Gramercy Theater. Tickets available now. New Rory and mall.com. so also subscribe to our Patreon and we're going to head to Patreon now so we can talk about ruining Thanksgiving.

[Mal]

Ruining your stomach.

[Damaris]

Oh, man. Gonna ruin your bowel move. Yeah, I'm clogging every toilet in the city. I'm that.

[Mal]

In the city.

[Damaris]

I'm that. He's just ginger. I gotta take a.

[Mal]

No worry now.