Episode 323 | Fragile Opp

Summary

Podcast Episode 323 | Fragile Opp - New Rory & MAL

Hosts: Rory Farrell & Jamil "Mal" Clay
Produced by: Studio71
Release Date: November 26, 2024
Title: Fragile Opp

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Live Show Highlights

Judah's Proposal ([07:07] - [08:09])
During their live show in Atlanta, Rory and Mal shared a heartwarming moment when a fan named Judah proposed to his girlfriend on stage.

• Rory: "Judah came on stage and proposed to his girlfriend. He even subscribed to our Patreon right there." ([08:01] - [08:09])
• Mal: "It was smooth. She went from pissed to smiling ear to ear once he got down on one."

This event underscored the strong community and engaging atmosphere of their live performances, fostering memorable interactions between hosts and fans.

Deep Dive into Kendrick Lamar's "Fragile Opp"

General Reception and Initial Opinions ([09:24] - [35:05])
The hosts delved into Kendrick Lamar’s latest album, "Fragile Opp," comparing it to his previous works like "Good Kid, Diamond City," and "Mr. Morale."

• Mal: "I think 'Fragile Opp' is one of the most flawless rap albums ever. Every song has replay value." ([19:32] - [19:45])
• Rory: "Some of the beats are tough to listen to, but they flow well. It's a different sound compared to 'Mr. Morale.'" ([14:25] - [14:42])

Song Analysis and Standout Tracks ([14:06] - [18:11])
Rory and Mal discussed specific tracks, highlighting their favorites and critiquing others.

• Rory: "I love 'Whacked Out Murals' and 'Luther.' These tracks really showcase Kendrick’s lyrical prowess." ([21:26] - [21:30])
• Mal: "The production on 'Fragile Opp' is light years ahead. Songs like 'Peekaboo' stand out for me." ([17:57] - [18:11])

Themes and Production Choices ([28:25] - [37:49])
The conversation touched on the album's themes, production styles, and collaborations.

• Rory: "Kendrick is channeling a California vibe with 'Fragile Opp.' The hyphy influence is evident." ([33:05] - [33:53])
• Mal: "The features on this album are top-notch. They sound natural and enhance the overall project." ([34:27] - [35:05])

Expectations for Future Releases ([45:45] - [48:21])
The hosts speculated about possible deluxe editions and future projects.

• Mal: "I think we'll see a deluxe edition with a few more records. Maybe another project before the Super Bowl." ([47:37] - [48:21])
• Rory: "A deluxe could be awesome, but I’m more excited about the possibility of additional projects." ([47:37] - [48:21])

Drake vs. Kendrick Lamar Battle and Lawsuit

Drake's Petition Against UMG and Spotify ([61:06] - [75:48])
A significant portion of the episode was dedicated to discussing Drake’s legal actions against Universal Music Group (UMG) and Spotify. Drake alleges that these companies manipulated the streaming of Kendrick Lamar’s song "Not Like Us" to artificially inflate its popularity.

• Mal: "Drake accuses UMG and Spotify of using bots and payola to push 'Not Like Us' as Kendrick's biggest hit." ([61:06] - [61:36])
• Julian: "This could open floodgates for lawsuits against streaming platforms manipulating streams for certain artists." ([65:00] - [65:48])
• Rory: "This lawsuit highlights the darker side of streaming algorithms and could benefit many artists seeking fair play." ([70:02] - [70:44])

Implications and Industry Impact ([75:48] - [76:55])
The hosts debated the legitimacy of the lawsuit and its potential repercussions on the music industry.

• Mal: "If Drake wins, it could set a precedent against streaming farms and unethical promotional practices." ([75:43] - [76:55])
• Damaris: "This could be monumental, affecting how songs are promoted and fair compensation for artists." ([76:02] - [76:55])

Speculations on Keem's Involvement ([35:05] - [117:00])
There was extensive discussion on whether Baby Keem, Kendrick’s collaborator, had any role or was affected by the ongoing disputes.

• Mal: "Keem might be distancing himself to establish his own identity separate from Kendrick." ([38:04] - [41:16])
• Rory: "Keem’s absence on the album might be strategic, possibly influenced by the aftermath of the Drake-Kendrick beef." ([36:11] - [37:49])
• Damaris: "It's possible Kendrick and Keem made a mutual decision to focus on their individual careers during this time." ([41:04] - [43:22])

Awards and Industry Commentary

CMA Awards and Lil Wayne's Comments ([37:47] - [60:16])
The hosts reflected on the Country Music Awards, specifically addressing Lil Wayne’s polarizing remarks and the exclusion of certain artists.

• Rory: "Lil Wayne’s comments about Kendrick and the Super Bowl halftime show stirred a lot of controversy." ([38:04] - [60:16])
• Mal: "It highlights the ongoing tensions and underrepresentation of certain artists in major award ceremonies." ([55:00] - [60:16])

Industry Practices and Racial Dynamics ([30:30] - [60:16])
They explored broader issues within the music industry, including racial dynamics and promotional unfairness.

• Mal: "Artists like Kendrick are navigating complex label politics, especially when allegations like Drake’s come into play." ([55:00] - [60:16])
• Julian: "The way labels handle such disputes often reflects deeper systemic issues in the industry." ([55:00] - [60:16])

Listener Interactions

Voicemail: Right Person, Wrong Time ([125:07] - [135:15])
Brandon from San Antonio shared his experience with meeting someone with whom he had a deep connection, but circumstances prevented the relationship from working out.

• Brandon: "Have you ever had that time where you met someone and everything was great, but it just didn't work out because it was the right person, wrong time?" ([127:19] - [127:57])
• Rory: "Don't beat yourself up over it, Brandon. Sometimes timing just doesn't align." ([128:35] - [129:13])
• Mal: "Experiences like these are part of growing up. Move on and find what’s right for you." ([128:35] - [129:13])

Streaming and Music Distribution Practices

Manipulation and Fairness in Streaming ([75:43] - [76:55])
The hosts dissected the mechanics behind Drake’s accusations, exploring how streaming platforms and labels might manipulate song placements and recommendations.

• Julian: "This could open the floodgates for class action lawsuits against streaming giants abusing their algorithmic power." ([75:43] - [76:55])
• Mal: "Artists deserve transparency and fairness in how their music is promoted and streamed." ([75:43] - [76:55])

Impact on Artists ([75:43] - [76:55])
The discussion highlighted how manipulation affects not just major artists like Kendrick and Drake, but potentially thousands of other musicians relying on streaming platforms for exposure and income.

• Damaris: "If streaming farms are manipulating streams for certain songs, it skews the entire market and hurts countless artists." ([76:02] - [76:55])
• Mal: "This lawsuit could force platforms to adopt more ethical practices, benefiting the broader artist community." ([75:43] - [76:55])

Closing Remarks

End of Year Live Shows and Future Plans ([133:00] - [137:52])
Rory and Mal wrapped up the episode by recapping their live shows for the year, expressing gratitude to fans, and announcing their final live show of the year.

• Rory: "December 14th, we’re finishing our live shows at the Gramercy Theater in New York City. Thank you to everyone who attended our Atlanta and Chicago shows." ([131:00] - [132:10])
• Mal: "Looking forward to ending the year with a bang and seeing all our supporters one last time." ([131:00] - [132:10])

Holiday Wishes ([137:00] - [138:55])
The hosts extended their holiday greetings, emphasizing safety and gratitude.

• Mal: "Everyone have a safe holiday week. Thank you for all your support throughout the year." ([132:10] - [138:55])
• Rory: "Be safe, be blessed. Happy holidays to you all." ([132:10] - [138:55])

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Notable Quotes

• Rory at [07:07]: "Nothing is worse than not being able to perform when it's time to."
• Mal at [14:06]: "I think he's prophetic; they only talk about how I get it, only good for saving face."
• Julian at [75:48]: "This could open floodgates for lawsuits against streaming platforms manipulating streams for certain artists."
• Rory at [128:44]: "Deleted, rewind, and now they feel the consequences."
• Brandon's voicemails at [125:07]: "Right person, wrong time is a real thing."

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Conclusion

Podcast Episode 323 of New Rory & MAL offered an extensive exploration of Kendrick Lamar's "Fragile Opp," the contentious Drake vs. Kendrick battle, and the broader implications of streaming manipulation in the music industry. Through insightful analysis, personal stories, and dynamic discussions, Rory and Mal provided listeners with a comprehensive understanding of the current music landscape, industry challenges, and the evolving nature of artist-label relationships.

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Transcript

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[Mal]

No warriors mom.

[Julian]

Hey hey.

[Mal]

Acting bad.

[Rory]

But somebody gotta do it Got my foot up on the gas but somebody.

[Damaris]

Gotta do it Turn this TV off Turn this TV off Turn this TV.

[Rory]

Off Turn this TV off Turn this.

[Damaris]

TV off Turn this TV off Turn this TV off Turn this TV off.

[Mal]

Ain't no other king and his rap.

[Rory]

Thing Nick siblings nothing but my children one shot they disappearing I'm in a city where the flag be getting thrown like it was Passing the fairance padlock around the building crash Pulling up a unmarked truck just to play freeze tag with a bone to pick like it was sea bass so when I made a I made about 50k from a show Trying to show niggas the ropes before they hung from a rope I'm prophetic they only talk about it how I get it Only good for saving face Seen the cosmetics how many heads.

[Mal]

I gotta take to level my aesthetics.

[Rory]

Hurry up and get your muscle up.

[Damaris]

We opt apply metric nicarana by Deluxe unessa up the highest metric the city.

[Rory]

Just made it sweet you could diabetic they mouth get full of deceit let these cowards tell it Walk in New.

[Damaris]

Orleans with the etiquette of LA yelling.

[Rory]

Oh man niggas acting bad but somebody gotta do it Got my foot up.

[Damaris]

On the gas but somebody.

[Mal]

We are back holiday week who is excited to celebrate well Never mind. It's like a. Holidays. Like celebrating the genocide of an.

[Rory]

I'm about to say, you know what?

[Mal]

First of all, let's celebrate being around family.

[Rory]

I thought years ago we decided we wasn't celebrating Thanksgiving no more.

[Julian]

Well, then we started funding another genesis.

[Rory]

What happened with what's the Difference? I'm saying, everybody be so up in arms. We're not celebrating Thanksgiving no more. It's friends given and that's it. Like, what.

[Damaris]

It's actually.

[Mal]

It was Hope's fault, right? No, like, everything.

[Rory]

Well, yeah, he did.

[Mal]

He did say, don't say Happy Thanksgiving to me. It's like saying Happy slaughter to me. Whatever he said on let's Get Free Meek Mill.

[Damaris]

It's Indigenous People's Day.

[Mal]

That's on Friday, though, right? Or that's on Thursday as well.

[Damaris]

I thought that's.

[Julian]

No, they, like, made it the name of the.

[Damaris]

Yeah, Thursday Thanksgiving.

[Rory]

People don't know. They don't know what they want.

[Mal]

But see, even. Even that's, like, kind of, like, offensive.

[Rory]

I feel like people just don't want to work.

[Mal]

Don't call it Indigenous People Day when.

[Julian]

Wait, no. Tricking us into liking Indigenous People's Days, what's formerly known as Columbus Day.

[Damaris]

Oh, yeah, you're right. You're right.

[Julian]

So Thanksgiving is not. It's just still Thanksgiving. We just. The message of what we're celebrating on Thanksgiving is no longer this fake piece.

[Rory]

But we're still calling it Thanksgiving.

[Julian]

Yeah, because you could be thankful for your family.

[Mal]

Like Rory said, with all this, like, 23andMe shit and everything, how come there's not more reports of people finding out that they were exactly like the Pilgrims? Like, that was your family, bro.

[Rory]

It is Amish, right?

[Julian]

No, not Amish.

[Rory]

That's not an extension of the Pilgrims. No.

[Mal]

Just because they have similar hats. No, no, no. They.

[Rory]

They shop at the same store. They wear the same colors. I don't know.

[Mal]

Acidic Jews do as well.

[Rory]

Yeah, like, they all wear the same color.

[Mal]

It's different religions.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

But, yeah, I wish there was more people, like, coming forward and be like, yes, that was my lineage that slaughtered an entire race. That's 23andMe should come, like, with. With an asterisk if you're one of those people. And, like, the whole world gets a mass email. Like, this person is. Is tied to all this.

[Rory]

Didn't they get rid of 23andMe? Like, didn't the company fold or something like that? Or shut down?

[Mal]

No, all their. Everyone on their board left because they're doing nasty stuff.

[Rory]

With the swabs.

[Mal]

Yeah. Which we knew was coming.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Julian]

There was also a data breach that happened as well, so.

[Rory]

Ah, okay. Just.

[Mal]

Just. Yeah.

[Rory]

Black Rock. What? I mean, BlackRock owns me too, so it's all good.

[Mal]

People have trouble getting into your icloud. That doesn't even matter. And for some reason, 23andMe just hacked. You know, the cameras were off that day. The security guard was asleep. Someone hung the data.

[Rory]

Yeah, Yeah, I get it. 23andMe, they got your swabs, right? Yeah, they got you.

[Mal]

But I. I gave up with. They have everything on us. Like, yeah, I don't mind. Even at TSA now when they lie and be like, we delete the photo after we take it. Then why'd you take the fucking photo?

[Rory]

Yeah, you see the new digital ID thing, I thought about you. When I was going through the airport, I. I was like, rory definitely has digital id.

[Mal]

I don't have it yet, but I probably will get it if it means I don't have to go through the line. Because again, they have everything. Like, I. I have no problem doing face id take my spit. Like, you have everything. But I've given up trying to be that conspiracy guy that's going to protect himself from the government. They have it all.

[Rory]

This is what pisses me off at the airport. First they come, they have, you know, sky priority. Remember when I used to be a thing? Of course now that's not a thing no more. Now it's been one global. The global pass entry level entry.

[Mal]

Why are you saying sky priority isn't?

[Rory]

Because sky priority. If we're all flying sky priority, the line is still on. Well, if you have fucking clear. If everybody has clear in the airport, the line is long.

[Mal]

Pre check is now clear.

[Rory]

Has turned into now digital ideas, a thing now. So what the fuck is clear?

[Mal]

But here's. Here's where they get me. There's been times that the precheck line is longer than the regular civilian line, but I don't feel like taking off my shoes and taking my laptop up, so I'll just stay in the precheck line.

[Julian]

I choose whichever line shorter. That's where I'm at.

[Rory]

Yeah, they're all the same because you're.

[Julian]

Right now, like, the barrier of entry is so low that it doesn't even digital ID clear. Having nothing is clear.

[Mal]

I didn't clear. I didn't clear where they took my picture and then showed me my own picture that I had just taken before that to renew my clear. And then I got to the line. And someone was holding up their phone and said, rory, right? I was like, how the fuck did you know that? She shows me her phone. It's my photo and my name. I was like, all right. Out of all the people in line, you just knew I had to be next. Then they said, can we take a photo of you? Even though clears because you don't need an id, they said, don't worry, we'll delete that photo. And then I got on my plane where instead of putting my ticket down, they took a photo of me.

[Rory]

Yeah, they got you your beautiful face.

[Mal]

All throughout the airport, they know every step I took. Yeah, I was thinking, like, got to the urinal, gotta take. Take a photo. So I'm getting.

[Rory]

I'm glad I'm getting a global entry, though, for sure. I'm definitely gonna go to the airport.

[Mal]

I just don't. I haven't done international enough, like, consistently in the last few years to get it.

[Rory]

Yeah, I'm getting that fucked up.

[Mal]

Because it only works with customs, right?

[Rory]

No. Any airport.

[Mal]

Oh, I thought it was just a customs international type of thing.

[Rory]

No, I mean, it is for that, but if you go to. If you're just flying to Atlanta, you have global entry, you go to the airport, you go to the global entry side. Just walk right through. Okay. Yeah.

[Mal]

Well, speaking of which, we went to Atlanta over the weekend.

[Rory]

Yes. Thank you to everybody that came out to the show. Had a great time in Atlanta. Great show. Thank you to all the beautiful people that came out, everybody at the meet and greet that we met. Such cool people. Met some really cool people. Shout out to our guy Judah, who flew in all the way from the Barbados. And was it Bahamas or Barbados?

[Mal]

Bahamas.

[Rory]

You sure?

[Mal]

Positive.

[Rory]

You sure?

[Mal]

Positive.

[Rory]

All right. Well, wherever you from, Judah, congratulations. Judah came on stage and proposed to his girlfriend.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

He came to the meet and greet, and he told me on the side, he was like, yo, listen, man, I want to propose to my girl tonight. Whatever. On stage, I was like, say no more, man.

[Mal]

We got. That was smooth. Because when he whispered in your ear, it was so quick. I thought he was asking, like, where the bitch is at behind his girl's back. And then once they left, you were like, yo, he wants to come on stage, propose. I was like, how did he get that line off to you that quickly?

[Rory]

Yeah. And it was funny because this girl looked like she was like, kind of had an attitude.

[Mal]

She was pissed.

[Rory]

Yeah. So, I mean, you know, she flew.

[Mal]

They flew from the beautiful Bahamas to Atlanta, Georgia, to go to a live Podcast show of a podcast she had never heard to then sit at a meet and greet. She looked pissed. Then she got on stage like, what am I doing up here? And all was right in the world. Once he got down on one.

[Rory]

Once he got down on one, she.

[Mal]

Was smiling ear to ear. We became her favorite podcast. Probably listening right now.

[Rory]

Yeah, she subscribed to the Patreon on stage. Yeah, yeah, on stage. She opened the phone and subscribed to the Patreon. So thank you to everybody that came out. Had a great time. Good to see some of my people from high school came out. Haven't seen them in a few years. So it was good to see my boys, man.

[Mal]

But the energy was in the room. Cause the day of our live show, you know, we were sitting there trying to put together our show. Incredible show with so many segments, so many fan interaction things we said, segments.

[Rory]

Such a great night, Just a beautiful live show.

[Mal]

And me and Peej looked at each other like, why the fuck do we need to do any of this? The only thing people are going to want to hear about is Mal listening to the Kendrick Lamar album in real time.

[Julian]

The whole show could have just been you guys watching Maul react to the.

[Rory]

Album, just sitting on stage, listen to.

[Julian]

Sitting on the couch.

[Mal]

We considered just doing a song by song listening session of that album during the live show.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

But to my surprise, a lot of people that came, I thought were going to be concerned about Maul making jokes, laughing. All of them were kind of on his side like, yo, fuck tde. I was like, jesus Christ. I thought, like, as a crew, we were all gonna laugh at Maul that this Kendrick shit dropped and that he's, you know, batting a thousand this year. And everyone was just yelling at me, yo, fuck you. Is OVO over here? Like, I thought we was. Thought he ran to Atlanta to get the sauce from y'all. I thought you didn't like him.

[Rory]

Yeah, no, it was all a lie.

[Mal]

So on Friday, Kendrick dropped, what, around noon?

[Rory]

Was it around noon?

[Julian]

Around noon, yeah.

[Rory]

My phone started ringing while I was in the shower. I didn't know what was happening.

[Julian]

I broke the news.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

I was like, you broke the news?

[Rory]

You broke the news?

[Mal]

You did not break the news that Kendrick LA dropping album.

[Julian]

I did because I sent it in the group chat and then I went on Twitter and there wasn't any chatter about it yet.

[Mal]

You started the conversation in our group chat?

[Julian]

Yeah, yeah. I said, oh, shit. Like, he dropped a teaser. And then I first shits. I went on Apple Music And I was like, let me see if he uploaded it as a song to Apple because it feels like a 30 second clip. And I was like, holy, there's an album. And then I send it to you guys.

[Mal]

So do you think, did Dave or Anthony reach out to you personally? Like, hey Julian, can you get the conversation going on this Kendrick album? It's. Oh yeah, it went on deaf ears. No.

[Rory]

Yeah, no, no one knew.

[Julian]

Well, that's why the first week numbers are going to be so low because.

[Rory]

The shit should have went through you. Yeah.

[Mal]

So yes, around noon, Kendrick dropped. I did. Similar to what we did when scissor drops when we were in Seattle. Everyone kind of just went for walks.

[Julian]

You didn't walk around Atlanta?

[Mal]

Oh, I walked around. I got my steps in, surprise, you're here. I mean I went in the safe.

[Julian]

Side, the hotel lobby.

[Mal]

My fucking crazy. I know where not to go in Atlanta. So I went, I went on a walk and gave it two listens. I don't even think we spoke to the green room.

[Rory]

We didn't.

[Mal]

Which of course, you know, to my surprise, you didn't hate it.

[Rory]

No, I didn't hate it. But I mean I've seen people saying it's better than Mr. Morale. I think that's crazy.

[Mal]

I can make a case. Look at everyone being quiet before we got on this micro. Everyone claimed they hated this album. I was the only one that said they liked it. Julian said it was the worst thing he ever fucking heard. That's the Maris. She hadn't even listened to it yet.

[Julian]

That's not fair.

[Mal]

Peach said it stunk mall we already knew what type of time it was. I'm walking in here to say that Kendrick album is great. I think it's better than Mr. Morale. I think it has more replay value than Mr. Morale. I Think the production is light years ahead of Mr. Morale. Kendra probably said more on Mr. Morale, but as an album that I think I'm going to continue to listen to, I can see myself going back to a lot of these songs. Whereas Mr. Morale, the intro I love, I go back to.

[Rory]

Is it the music that you like more than Mr. Morale?

[Mal]

Somebody on Twitter called it an evil hyphy album. And yes, I think I love evil hyphy.

[Julian]

This is an easier album to listen to. Like it's.

[Mal]

I mean I think it's the opposite. I think the beats are tough to listen to, but that's why I like them.

[Damaris]

But I think he's talking about the entire listening experience because you guys complaint with Mr. Morale was that it has no replay value. When it first came out, you guys said it was just like. It was like, I'm not gonna put this on.

[Mal]

Like, no, I had to be in the right mood for the replay value. And that is a very specific mood that doesn't happen all the time, but united in grief. I listen to all the time. Father time. I listen to a lot. Count me out. And that's probably where it stops as far as constant replay value with Mr. Morale, which is tough because when it comes to Kendrick's catalog, all of it has replay value to me. To pimp a butterfly, again, I have to be in a certain mood, but that has replay value. But, damn, I could listen to front to back today, tomorrow, for the rest of my life. Good kid. Same thing. Section 80. Same thing.

[Rory]

All right, slow down. Let's slow down.

[Mal]

Overly dedicated.

[Rory]

Same thing. So let's get to gnx. So, because you text the group chat this morning and said you liked the entire album, every song.

[Mal]

Not equally, but I do love every.

[Rory]

The thing for me is it's some. Obviously some good songs on here. I just don't think that all of them have replay value, in my opinion. Some of the music I don't like gnx. I thought they did a great job. I think that beat. I hate that beat. But I think they did a great job at catching it and flowing on it.

[Mal]

But that J3 went crazy on that. Yeah.

[Julian]

That's like, the music that sounds like it's haunting.

[Rory]

Yeah. But that music, the. The off beat, it's like the. It sounds like. Remember when Ludacris was on punk and they had him in a booth.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

And they was playing that beat.

[Mal]

Such a weird stuff.

[Rory]

He was trying to catch the beat. He was like, yo, I don't know what pocket, but that's how I felt.

[Mal]

Funny reference.

[Rory]

That's how I felt. Listen to gnx. I'm like, it's such an awkward beat, and you know what I'm saying? I'm like. I don't just like. It's not easy on the air to me. To me. And this is all subjective. This is just me. I just didn't. I don't think I could listen to that now. They did a great job at catching it and flowing on it and getting off on it, But I didn't like.

[Mal]

The music being slightly delayed. And it's more of a Detroit thing than a West coast thing. But being slightly delayed right now is a huge genre of hip hop. Not really being in the pocket. Detroit made that shit Famous. But I've seen other regions using it. I think they did their west coast rendition of it.

[Rory]

Cool. I'm just saying I won't be bumping.

[Mal]

That and even, like, back to the hyphy things. And I know most of these, if not all these features, are from the Los Angeles area, but we've talked about how a lot of mustard sound really derives from the Bay more than it derives from Los Angeles. A lot of hyphy shit is offbeat. Nobody's really in the pocket. Like, you're going, stupid, dumb, retarded, hyphy, little yellow bus. And I'm allowed to say that word because it's a hyphy thing.

[Julian]

It's in homage.

[Mal]

That shit is offbeat, too. So even I think a lot of this is Bay Area inspired, and you kind of have to be offbeat to catch that type of shit.

[Damaris]

The beats are offbeat, which is respectable. But, you know, I'm saying you don't.

[Mal]

Have to like it.

[Damaris]

Yeah, but Maul, what other songs were you.

[Rory]

Do you like or don't like doing?

[Julian]

Don't like.

[Rory]

I like Whacked Out Morals murals. I'm sorry. Morals Whacked out murals.

[Julian]

Great intro. Yeah, started off great.

[Rory]

Squabble up is cool. I wasn't too crazy about it, Luther. I love man at the Garden. I'm not that. That's the one mic sample.

[Mal]

I think everyone was saying one mic, which I got. But my first impression of that record was Pac staring through my rear view.

[Rory]

Okay, either or I hear one mic.

[Mal]

Well, it's definitely one mic.

[Rory]

Yeah, I wasn't really crazy about that. Hey, now is okay. Say now Reincarnated.

[Julian]

I'm one where he screams mustard. The second half of hey, now.

[Mal]

No, that would be Turn your TV off.

[Rory]

Reincarnated. I don't want to hear Kendrick rapping like packaging.

[Mal]

Okay, but Drake's allowed to rap like him.

[Rory]

No, obviously he's not. Kendrick had to take it down, so. So clearly he's not. Nobody's allowed the C and D. Yeah, nobody's allowed in my opinion.

[Mal]

Okay, but why? Because I love.

[Rory]

Tupac is no longer with us.

[Mal]

All right, but people hov rapped big lyrics after Big passed and, like, took big flows after he passed.

[Rory]

Not in his voice, though, he wasn't. He was using inflections like Big.

[Mal]

He just used lyrics, games, Doctor's Advocate album, which I absolutely love. He is legitimately doing the first version of AI of Dr. Dre's voice.

[Rory]

Okay.

[Mal]

Game might have been the first AI that's ever existed.

[Rory]

Okay. I don't like that either, but it's a.

[Mal]

It's. Dare I say, a classic album.

[Rory]

No, the game got off. The album is great.

[Mal]

He raps the tone. He changed his tone from the documentary to Dr. Dre's voice.

[Rory]

You do this when we talk about Kendrick. You always bring other rappers into it. Let's stay on Kendrick.

[Mal]

Okay, fine. Well, I'm talking about Tupac.

[Rory]

I'm talking about Kendrick.

[Mal]

You don't. Did you like the beat flip, though? Because that's like kind of a Tupac seaside.

[Rory]

It was cool. It was. I wasn't mad at it. It was cool. TV off. I liked Dodger Blue. I love Peekaboo.

[Mal]

Love Peekaboo.

[Rory]

Which one is that? I can't remember.

[Julian]

Is that the one with the beat? I'm thinking of this. The. The haunting one. The scary beat.

[Mal]

Said, he said heard about your man's not sorry for your loss He. Yo, all the features got off on.

[Rory]

This hard part six. I like. I mean, anytime you use a SWV sample, I'm listening.

[Mal]

I love the story. It was more in detail. I feel like we've gotten this TDE story in different pieces throughout Kendrick's career. It was nice that he put it all in one record. But even like Heart Part three was soul. In Schoolboy, like, you get some of the story again. I loved it.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

But with that beat, I don't know if I needed the tde, like, history lesson. But I guess with all new fans, you gotta do that. Yeah, I'm just. I'm an old angry fan with shit I've already heard.

[Rory]

I mean, I like the fact that he talked about. He talked about. You know, basically, he felt like the only thing missing from his career was he didn't have his business up to par the way he should to be as big of an artist as he is.

[Mal]

Which, if we go all the way back to like that. When we were debating of what angles each of these artists were going to take when we still thought Cole was in the mix as far as this beef we had discussed. The one thing that you can say about Kendrick, if you're Cole or Drake, is we have our own companies and our own business, our own labels. We've been doing this our whole career. You just playing catch up now, like you're. You can't be a big three to us. Cause look at what we're doing on the business side outside of music. So I did find it interesting that he was honest about that part. Cause that was a chink in his armor that for Some reason no one brought up during this battle. Like, all right, I guess. I guess Drake kind of did with the top flip. Like, all right. Top's making you do Taylor Swift shit this and that. You owe top 50. I guess it was there. But I think Drake would have fared better in this battle had he went down that rabbit hole rather than some of the, hey, your friend is the father of your child.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Like, he really could have got into the Facts situation. And I think Kendrick would have looked a little crazier and is not. Now he has the eight Mile moment. Like, all right, I already said it.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

You can't say that shit about me now. I have PG Lang.

[Rory]

I think that beef aside, obviously the beef is a big part of this album and everything around the album that people are talking about. Where does this stand with you as far as Kendrick's catalog discography? I know it's unfair because it's only.

[Mal]

Been out for a weekend, so.

[Rory]

But so far. But you said you like every song on the album. I don't think you've ever said you like every song on other Kendrick albums. I don't think you've ever said that.

[Mal]

I. Which isn't fair. I pretend that the U2 song is not on Damn. Like, on my version. That's out of. I don't even use Apple music for Damn. But outside of that, I go to my library where the version without that U2 song is.

[Rory]

But outside of that, every song on Damn.

[Mal]

Flawless.

[Rory]

Okay.

[Mal]

I think it's probably one of the most flawless rap albums that's ever existed. Good Kid, Mad City. I don't think there's a single skip on it to Pimp A Butterfly. Took me a while to get into it. Even though I think people would assume that's my type of shit. It wasn't. It didn't really sit with me in the best way for first few years. I've gotten more into Pimp A Butterfly lately than I did when it came out. Section 80, flawless. OD the real version. Flawless. So it's really only been Mr. Morales that I started to feel a way about Kendrick's. About a Kendrick album, not his discography, where I was like, all right, I can skip on this. This feels lazy. This didn't need to be a double album. Like, just do the Therapy records. Those are the standouts. Like, I love Blast. I love Summer. I didn't really need either of those records. Yeah, I love Ghostface. Didn't need it.

[Rory]

Well, on gnx for me, we was in the chat earlier Talking. I like. I think six or seven out of the 12 that I think I like.

[Mal]

On the album, which would be whacked out Murals. Luther.

[Rory]

Luther.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Julian]

TV off.

[Mal]

TV off. You said you like.

[Rory]

Yep.

[Mal]

Dodger Blue Heart Part 6.

[Rory]

How many is that? Four or five?

[Julian]

You don't like Gloria about Gloria? The last record was Scissors Gloria.

[Rory]

I like Gloria.

[Mal]

All right, so that's six.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Julian]

Do you guys think. And I. Peekaboo is fire. This is becoming a narrative that I am believing even before I started becoming a thing. Do you think this is like his effort of. Of this is his album, or is this. I get it. I. I've said I've used the word mixtape. I was like, how is it a mixtape? It's not. It is an album, but is it the album? Do we think there's another thing coming not too far from this one?

[Rory]

There's a deluxe coming.

[Julian]

I think that that's. I don't know if it'll be paired with this, but I think that there's another project.

[Rory]

I think there's a deluxe coming with a few more records on there. But I think this is the. This is the album going into February to the super bowl, though. I think I could see him performing TV Off.

[Mal]

Actually, I think the second half, a snippet of that will be in the medley of the Kendrick song because TV Off.

[Rory]

What? I mean, it kind of feels like they not like us a little bit.

[Julian]

I mean, it's a mustard.

[Rory]

Yeah, it feels it has a little remnants of that. And then TV off is the super bowl halftime show. I could see that being kind of a. A cool little play on.

[Mal]

Wait until the Think Pieces the next day after the super bowl when mainstream media finds out what Turn his TV off means.

[Rory]

Yeah, well, I mean, they gave him the spot with Not Like Us. You know what that song is about? I don't think.

[Mal]

I don't think Murder Hooks and pedophile hooks.

[Rory]

Yeah, I don't think murder is live on stage. Yeah, they love murder. They sell murder all day.

[Mal]

That's true. Yes. As long as he's talking about a black man. Mania will love that message.

[Rory]

Exactly.

[Julian]

Right before we recorded, Kendrick dropped the Squabble up video. We watched it. I don't know if Molly's seen the whole thing yet, but interest. Any thoughts on this? He did some homages, like, along the way, I guess, to a few artists. All west coast related, obviously, but yeah.

[Mal]

I mean, same with Not Like Us. We talked about what him and Dave have been doing on the visual side has been Great. This is right up to par with everything. We only watched it once because we were about to record. But I fully enjoyed the first watch. I thought it was dope.

[Julian]

This was one of the things they said in particular was a iced tea. The shot from the video.

[Mal]

They also. The menace of society stuff in there. And I think he was just fucking around with people. When they had the. The magnet Scrabble shit they used to put on your fridge, it was like a bunch of letters. I'm sure as the soul. Everyone is on stream right now as we're recording this, trying to decipher what he had put on that board.

[Rory]

That was. That's a Soul Train board. Maybe they should do it on soul.

[Mal]

No, I know, but what he actually put, like what he's trying to say.

[Julian]

Yeah, there's a bug.

[Mal]

What messages is that to Drake?

[Julian]

This scene here, he's reading a book called how to Be More like Kendrick for Dummies. Assad here, there's that flag that the conspiracy side of hip hop Twitter is going wild about.

[Mal]

Well, I mean, they kind of have a point. What was the name of that Twitter account?

[Julian]

Ebony Princess, Ebony Prince something.

[Mal]

If you remember, during the battle, that account seemed to be the only legitimate conspiracy account that had some facts. They had security footage from the hotel that had to do with one of the writers and Drake assaulting him or some weird shit. That account also had a video of all the stuff that was.

[Rory]

Drake assaulted a disabled guy in a wheelchair.

[Mal]

Which is insane. And then he was like, no, he didn't.

[Rory]

One day, I don't know if we're going to do it on the. We'd probably do it on Patreon, but we have to go back and revisit the shit that they were saying around that whole time. That was absolutely crazy.

[Mal]

Oh, it was an insane month.

[Rory]

It's like, what are you talking about?

[Mal]

But also, that account had actual footage of all those items that were in the. Was it the 616 or meet the Graham's Grams?

[Julian]

The Meet the Graham's artwork, which appeared.

[Mal]

To be from the balcony of that apartment that Kendrick had just bought in Brooklyn. Same view, same balcony.

[Rory]

Shit.

[Mal]

He put those flags in the video because the Abbey was. Was that flag. So that's what everyone is now running with that. That, you know, Kendrick was working with that person.

[Damaris]

Isn't that just the Black Pride flag or something?

[Mal]

Yeah, but, you know, everyone's gonna tie it back to a rap beef and not anything else. So, Maul. It's really tough to get a one year old to go to sleep.

[Rory]

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[Mal]

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[Rory]

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[Mal]

Yeah. My only real critique here is what they put in the Apple music bio for this album. When I read that before clicking play, I was almost like, you know what? I'm just gonna go full OVO with more. Man, fuck this. They put in the Apple bio, he killed the party because he's the only one that can resurrect it does that.

[Julian]

They changed it, by the way.

[Damaris]

That looks like how, like, remember how I had to write like, something than just the throw in there. I know that's what it gives, like.

[Mal]

But just leave it blank.

[Julian]

Like the updated one.

[Rory]

No, not only that. They should have really thought about it being that this is Kendrick Lamar, one of the biggest artists in the world right now. This is a very album that's going to have everyone's eyes and ears on it. Because coming off of the whole Beef thing, they should have put a little bit more thought into the caption of that.

[Mal]

I mean, then they just changed it to like, basically his bio. But before that it said he killed the party because he's the only one that can resurrect it. I feel like there's.

[Rory]

So this is the new one.

[Julian]

Yeah, it's really.

[Rory]

All right, so let me read what Punch wrote. All right, so it says, if there were any remaining doubts as to hip hop MP, consider the decision stamped. Kendrick Lamar officially won 2024. Who's this? Officially? What is this? We need to. Come on, man. Some of the polls are still open. There were whispers.

[Mal]

It's a recount.

[Rory]

Yeah. There were whispers that Khan was working on an album in the wake of his feud with Drake at once in a generation beef that kept jaws dropped for months. I don't like that. Perhaps you've heard of A little song called not like Us. Never heard it.

[Julian]

And immediately, like, that's like the reaction that they were. Perhaps you've heard a little song they.

[Mal]

Should have put LOL in parentheses.

[Julian]

Like, it's just. So who wrote I'm on your side? This is okay.

[Rory]

No, I just didn't know what that was.

[Julian]

No.

[Rory]

An immediate entry into the. Into the canon of all time.

[Mal]

An immediate entry into the canon. Don't just casually read not an immediate entry.

[Rory]

I don't know.

[Damaris]

This Julian, you wrote.

[Mal]

It's kind of rapey.

[Julian]

You think I wrote this?

[Rory]

The clip is full into the can of all time. Great diss tracks. After a sold out celebration at. Okay, so this is just a highlight reel after a sold out celebration at the Kier Forum, an armful of Grammy nods and streaming records, and the headlining slot at next year's Super Bowl. Lamar. Lamar. Lamar ties up his biggest year yet.

[Mal]

First of all, there's only a headlining slot.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Rory]

That's it.

[Mal]

There's no openers.

[Rory]

Yeah. At all. Well, I guess the teams are the openers. Lamar ties up his.

[Mal]

The Lions and the Eagles. Yeah.

[Rory]

Yeah. Lamar ties up his biggest year yet with a bow. With his sixth album, Bo, Babe. Bo.

[Mal]

Bo.

[Rory]

About. I don't know.

[Damaris]

He tied it up with a bow.

[Rory]

Oh, tied it. Ties up. There you go. I like context clues. Damaris, you went to Syracuse University.

[Julian]

Context clues.

[Mal]

Now it's the words. You sound like me right now.

[Rory]

But isn't bow spelled the same way?

[Damaris]

Yes, bow is spelled the same.

[Rory]

All right, so my bad. With a bow. With his sixth album, gnx, the most legitimately surprising surprise. I don't like that. I don't like surprising surprise. I don't like that.

[Mal]

It's legitimately surprising surprise drop since Beyonce.

[Rory]

In 2013, named for his beloved classic Buick GNX find Kendrick wielding a hatchet he's by no means ready to bury. Still channeling this summer's crank to 11 energy.

[Mal]

Julian wrote this.

[Damaris]

Julian wrote this.

[Rory]

On whacked out murals. He's riding around listening to Anita Baker plotting on several downfalls. It used to be fuck that nigga, but now it's plural. Fuck everybody that's on my body.

[Mal]

What's funny is a white person definitely wrote this.

[Rory]

Yes. There's a nod to his super bowl drama with Lil Wayne. If you've been holding your breath for Jack Antonoff to link with Mustard. Wait no more. The seemingly odd couple share.

[Julian]

There was just a screenshot.

[Mal]

Okay, well, also, Mustard only did two beats on this, Right? Jack mixed every record. And I Think is a co producer on every single record, but. All right, A couple things to unpack there. Outside of it being hilarious. Is this the biggest surprise, surprise, surprise since Beyonce?

[Damaris]

No, I don't even think this was a surprise.

[Julian]

You could just. I mean, off top, my blonde.

[Mal]

Blonde. Yes. What the are we talking about again? I don't want to make this more of a Kendrick and Drake thing, but Drake, if you're reading this, like, no, let's not pretend that that wasn't a crazy surprise.

[Damaris]

But that got. Didn't that get leaked when it came out? Before it came out? That got leaked. What if you're reading this got leaked, if I'm not mistaken?

[Mal]

I thought this just dropped. Like, that was kind of the point of the title.

[Rory]

Yeah, maybe.

[Damaris]

I might. Maybe I haven't up with Scorpion, I don't know.

[Mal]

But Scorpion had a lot of leaks.

[Julian]

Scorpion leaked like crazy.

[Mal]

To the point. Clb, you had to make a whole new album down there.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Mal]

So, yeah, I get it. But that's kind of crazy to say since the Beyonce joint. Blond and if you're reading this, I felt like were two huge surprises.

[Rory]

Listen, man, the bottom line is this. This. All this energy feels good, though. I like this. I like the battle. I like Kendrick just dropping not, you know, giving no. Nobody any inkling that he's putting it out today. Like, I like all of that. All of that is part of what this shit is about, man. Make music, drop music. I like that.

[Mal]

A lot of producers this year, like, during the battle and after went on podcasts and did interviews telling us that Kendrick actually works really, really fast. Because myself included thought that Kendrick's one of those guys that makes one song every, like, two years and he just slowly puts together an album. They say no. He walks in the studio and knocks out, like, 15 records. He works extremely fast. With the success of Not Like Us, do you think all of these songs are post Not Like Us and he changed the exact sound to match more of the not like Us hyphy type shit.

[Rory]

I think he had to. I think he had. I think he couldn't. He couldn't give us, which is undoubtedly his biggest record with Not Like Us, I don't think he could give us that and have people in that frequency and then go too far away from that on the next album.

[Mal]

And what's funny is, I thought he was gonna do the complete opposite. Like, when he did Let the Party Die, I was like, oh, Kendrick is probably gonna go in the complete opposite direction of Not Like Us this entire album. Is just an extension of that sound. So that shocked me. Not that I'm mad at it, but it made me think Kendrick, who typically does whatever the fuck he wants to do and doesn't really play into what he thinks the audience wants, I think leaned into his biggest record yet and was like, I have to just continue this sound. It's working. Which I would have never expected Kendrick to do.

[Rory]

Yeah, I mean, I think he went all the Way California on it, which is cool, which is dope. But this is a very Cali album. The sound, the lyrics, you know, the references in it. The artist that he collabed with, which.

[Mal]

To me was the biggest highlight. I know it sounds crazy. I think I knew maybe one of these features outside of Roddy Ricch, of course, all of them were the high. Like, they all stepped up to me. Yeah, I think they're. They're the best part of this entire project. He kept back together. They sound more natural on this type of shit than Kendrick did. I loved all the features on this.

[Rory]

He kept it West Coast. There was obviously talks online before the Amazon show that he didn't. He never really put other people on from la. He didn't give him a look. And then he gave. He had the show, had some of them, know a lot of openers of that show. And then here comes the GNX album, put them on the features. Everybody was mad when the album first dropped because the names weren't in the titles yet, so nobody knew who the artists were. And I think Sunday, they dropped the. Yeah, they dropped the tracks with all the.

[Mal]

Okay. Do you think Kendrick did that because of all the talk after the thing at the Kia Forum, his victory lap? Everyone's like, all right, no one's going to hear from Kendrick again. All those artists were just used for Kendrick's victory lap. All those people on stage dancing, like, see if Kendrick doesn't have a different number by tomorrow. Yeah, he's not giving y'all anything. Muster put out his album. I don't think Kendrick was on it, right?

[Rory]

No.

[Mal]

They were saying, Kendrick Muster gave you your biggest record ever. Now you're not even on his album. You didn't even tweet it. Do you think he put all these people on this project to silence that, or do you think he just wanted to work with these guys?

[Rory]

It could be a little bit of both. I think it definitely. He definitely heard what people were saying. As far as him not giving other artists from California any looks on his albums. Um, not saying that that was a big factor because he may have had plans of doing that before all of the, you know, the beef thing and the. And the show at the Kia Forum. He may have had plans on doing that now that he has his own label, his own situation with PG Lang. But, I mean, it doesn't matter. I don't. I don't really. I don't really care if he did or he didn't. He did. He put them on the album, and they did their thing on their verses. It sounds good. It's just for me, some of the music is just not what I would go back to in replay.

[Mal]

And, I mean, I'm not gonna put this on Top's jacket, per se, but I always found that odd that people would criticize Kendrick for not putting on younger acts when he didn't own that label. Like, TOP is an incredible businessman, and if you see how TDE moves, they kind of only do features for each other. There's no. The only, like, young artist that's gonna get a look on a TDE album has to be signed to tde. So I don't know if Kendrick may have went to Top throughout his career. And, like, yo, I want to put this artist on, right? Which I was like, well, he's not signed to us, so. Fuck, no. You're one of the biggest artists. You're not putting, like, your little homie on the shit. Like, even Keem. Keem has been around since. Damn. I mean, I know it's his cousin. He's been around his whole life, but Keem was making music. I think they showed a photo of him working with Kendrick around the damn time on production stuff. Keem couldn't get a look to the last album. Yeah, I just don't know if Top was allowing that type of shit if they didn't have paperwork on that artist. And west coast politics to begin with are weird as is.

[Rory]

Is Keem on this album at all? No.

[Mal]

No, not even an ad lib.

[Rory]

So he heard that bar from Drake. He ain't like that when you say you should only slap. When Keem put his pin to it, he told Keem, go take a vacation. This is to the face my. Nah, he told Keem, yo, they think I can't make no slaps without you go on vacation.

[Mal]

No, no one thought that, though.

[Rory]

I mean, if Drake said it, he probably felt like Drake felt like that. So he like, fuck that.

[Mal]

No, I think Keem' probably just focused on his shit. We've talked about Keem in the past. We thought his first project was just okay. Showed A lot of potential, but Keem has to be very particular, especially with all the energy surrounding Kendrick. He can't put a dud out. I think he got low purposely. Like, I don't want to pop out unless I feel my shit is ready to go. And one of his producers, I think, was on three records on Kendrick's joint and said they're coming out next. So I think Keem probably didn't even want to be on this shit.

[Julian]

He didn't?

[Damaris]

No. I can understand. I can see where Royce is coming from. Yes, I can. I can see Keem.

[Rory]

You think Keem didn't want to be on this album that's coming out post beef?

[Damaris]

No, what I'm saying. What I'm saying is this. I feel like sometimes artists can get overtaken by the pressure. I'm sure that there would have been a lot of pressure when it came to this, Keem being honest, especially with.

[Mal]

What Drake says, and it fuels that narrative. All right, after Mr. Morale, then they put out what's the Lucy that they were announcing it was running in the clogna.

[Julian]

What, Family Ties.

[Mal]

Yeah, family Ties. Then off his album, you can clearly hear the stuff that. Like Kendrick, which is a Grammy winning.

[Julian]

Record, by the way.

[Mal]

All that stuff. Everyone is just connecting Keane to Kendrick. Like, you have not stood on your own whatsoever. That narrative is a solid narrative within fans and people that are in the music industry.

[Rory]

So back to what I said.

[Mal]

If now the next time we see you after you just did a whole tour for fucking three years around the entire world with Kendrick, you opened up. Every single video is just you and him running in circles on stage. Yes. I need to distance myself publicly from you for a second, man.

[Rory]

Cut the shit, man.

[Mal]

The first single of Mr. Moriah was with him. All the visuals are with him.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Or I need to get away from you. That's a better marketing thing for me to be a legitimate artist.

[Rory]

So. It's not. It's not. It has nothing to do with the guy. I'm in beef with things that I can't make a hit without you.

[Damaris]

I don't think that.

[Mal]

That. Because no one. No one heard. No one heard that Drake Quarry went.

[Rory]

And it's like, yo, you know, it's too much time we've been together too much.

[Mal]

That's what he's.

[Rory]

Get the fuck out of here.

[Damaris]

I don't think that. I don't think that. I think you've given Drake a little bit too much.

[Rory]

I'm listening to what he said and then what happened? Keem is nowhere else.

[Mal]

The only time that there's any writing credit of Keem's pen being put to anything is N95 on Mr. Morale. I'm pretty sure Kendrick has put out some okay music before that.

[Rory]

That's not so.

[Mal]

That's why when Drake said it only slaps when baby Keem puts his pen to, it was like, there's been 15 years of proof that that's not the case.

[Rory]

Okay, but. So back to my original statement. Do you think that that line has anything to do with this? No.

[Mal]

No.

[Damaris]

Okay, so, ma, I did.

[Rory]

They just been together too much on tour, working too much.

[Mal]

I'm saying no, See, that's what you said. I need a break doing that thing.

[Rory]

I need a break.

[Mal]

When we argue.

[Rory]

I need a break. That's what you just said. I need a break.

[Mal]

That's what you said.

[Rory]

I need a break.

[Mal]

Okay? Can you not see the perception if I'm trying to be my own artist? My own.

[Rory]

He was. He's been his own artist.

[Damaris]

We're talking about you.

[Rory]

He's been his own artist before that. He's been his own artist. I understand what you talking about.

[Mal]

I'm saying Keem would say, bro, leave me off this, because my identity is becoming your little cousin.

[Rory]

Keem is not saying, leave me off this album, dog. Cut the shit. Nobody is.

[Damaris]

You didn't want to work with. You didn't want to work with your brothers and everything because you said that you wanted to make it on your own and you never wanted to be attached.

[Rory]

Yeah, but I didn't start working with them and then stopped working with.

[Mal]

I think there's still. I'm sure Keem had somewhat of a hand, especially when his personal producer produced three records on this project and had never worked with Kendrick before that. I'm sure Keem had some influence on this, I'm saying visually and his name being on these songs. Maybe he's trying to start his own identity that is not Kendrick's little homie. Like, he just wants to be separate.

[Rory]

Okay, so, kid, so Keem said, leave me off this album.

[Mal]

Maybe.

[Rory]

Okay, yeah, maybe show me an artist that would tell Kendrick, please leave me off your album.

[Mal]

His cousin that knows that no matter what, he'll have access to him for the rest of his life, and it doesn't matter. And this next one, I want to stand on my own, too. I don't want to be attached.

[Damaris]

Once in a lifetime opportunity for Kendrick.

[Rory]

Nobody said it was a once in a lifetime opportunity. Nobody is telling Kendrick Lamar, hey, do me A favor. Leave me off your next album. Nobody. No artist is saying that. No artist on this planet is asking.

[Mal]

Kendrick to explore his. Except for somebody that's won his baby cut like his real cousin. Not play cousins like real cousin.

[Rory]

Who cares?

[Mal]

Is the first signee of PG Lang was on fucking 10 songs of Mr. Morale. Whether he was featured or not. There's an ad lib. There's a Keem ad lib on every fucking song.

[Rory]

Keep going.

[Mal]

Then his. His rollout was Kendrick.

[Rory]

Keep going.

[Mal]

Then after that was family ties. Then after that, everything was you on tour with Kendrick. Maybe I want to stand on my own right now for the next year and a half.

[Rory]

This is it.

[Damaris]

Because I'm not. I'm sure that Keem and Kendrick both know that nobody wants to hear from them two together right now. Nobody wants to.

[Mal]

Yeah. I don't.

[Damaris]

I think that they're very much aware of that. So I think it's like, yeah, no, we'll work together again later. He might be on the deluxe. Who knows? But, like, I don't think that that's. I don't think it was. Well, Drake said. So we can't work together, guys, because Drake said that every time my hits, it's because of you. Like, I don't think that that was a conversation at all.

[Rory]

So y'all think that Keem said, leave me off of this.

[Julian]

Keem said, leave me.

[Mal]

Hug. Yeah, leave me.

[Damaris]

I think that him and Kendrick probably made that decision together. I'm not saying Keem went to Kendrick.

[Mal]

And said, yo, I identity on Twitter. Not that, like, Twitter really defines everything. We know that. But a lot of the perception as of recent Keem was that meme of my mom said, you can't go unless you take me. Like, that's what they were doing with his whole career. And I think that's unfair because I think he is a very talented artist that has potential, but I don't know his potential unless he's next to Kendrick. So maybe he just wants to step away. And I'm with Damaris. I don't know if it'll be a deluxe per se, but I do think we're going to get another project before the Super Bowl. Keem could be all over that shit for all I know. Maybe Keem didn't want to be on this. This evil hyphy shit. Maybe Keem just want to slide.

[Julian]

Like, maybe Keem's on Drake's side.

[Mal]

Maybe that was the OVO mole.

[Julian]

The whole time, he hasn't said anything.

[Damaris]

Mal, are you going to Apologize to the room.

[Mal]

So you won't be at Thanksgiving. Yeah. Malz. Sometimes intimate moments can happen spontaneously. Unfortunately. I've talked about this moment on the podcast. I was on the road with the track team in college. Had two girls in the bathroom and I got a little too nervous.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

And I just wasn't ready.

[Rory]

Yeah. Gotta get that blood flowing.

[Mal]

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[Damaris]

Are you gonna apologize to the room all for what? I know you're literally screaming at us that we were fucking because we said that there's a huge chance that Night Like Us wouldn't be on the album. Fuck outta here.

[Mal]

Fuck.

[Damaris]

Why the fuck. Fuck outta here.

[Mal]

Y'all dumb, y'all.

[Damaris]

You screamed at us for, like, a good fight.

[Mal]

You screamed at us like a. Like a horn. Kamasi.

[Rory]

All right, my bad. I hurt your feelings.

[Damaris]

No, no, we just wanted an apology. We walk back our.

[Mal]

Okay.

[Damaris]

Wait for you.

[Mal]

What if he. What if Not Like Us is on the deluxe? That would be the sickest ever.

[Damaris]

I don't think that bonus track. I don't think that that's happening.

[Julian]

Dropping that as a bonus track is crazy.

[Damaris]

So you ain't Gonna apologize for being wrong.

[Rory]

Did y'all not. No.

[Damaris]

You said, I apologize if I hurt y'all feelings. That's not what we.

[Mal]

That's not. Apologize.

[Damaris]

Yo, I was wrong. You know my. I up. I was wrong.

[Rory]

You've been wrong a lot and never has.

[Damaris]

I'll come out here all the time, be like, I'm wrong.

[Rory]

No, you have not.

[Damaris]

When was I. When was I wrong? And I didn't. And I didn't come out.

[Mal]

That's premium.

[Damaris]

Since you obviously got that in your head. When did that happen?

[Mal]

You thought gas prices were going down. They're not.

[Rory]

So let me. So let me start by saying this. I apologize. I was wrong.

[Damaris]

Okay, there you go.

[Julian]

No, no, no. That.

[Rory]

What were you saying? What was the.

[Julian]

Give an example.

[Damaris]

I literally just apologized recently. When I said that, I had that quote. I said, whatever Martha Sewer said. And I was wrong. I was like, oh, I was wrong. My bad. I fucked up.

[Rory]

No, but that's.

[Julian]

No, don't do that. You had a weird apology with that. That's different.

[Rory]

That's different. Yeah, don't do that.

[Mal]

I forgot what it was. You did say something. You didn't say that.

[Rory]

It wasn't that bad.

[Damaris]

I fucked up.

[Rory]

I said, my bad. I up.

[Damaris]

We can roll the tape.

[Mal]

The article misquoted it or something.

[Rory]

She was like, well, they got it wrong.

[Damaris]

I was like, oh, shit. My bad. I fucked up.

[Rory]

Well, listen, I apologize. So far, it seems I'm wrong that Not Like Us is not on the album. A deluxe, I believe is coming, is happening.

[Damaris]

And you think Not Like Us will be on the deluxe?

[Rory]

I don't know. It's. It's a chance.

[Julian]

No, it's a chance.

[Rory]

It could be.

[Mal]

And I don't think it'll be deluxe. I think we're going to get a whole new album.

[Damaris]

Same kind of like how Meg just did her deluxe, where it's technically a deluxe, but it's a whole new album.

[Rory]

Like a Scary Hours, too.

[Mal]

Yeah, but I think It'll be another 11, 12 records. I don't think it'll be lower than 10.

[Rory]

No, I don't think it'll be like. I think maybe five, six, seven.

[Damaris]

When do y'all think it's coming? January or right before the Super Bowl.

[Rory]

Probably February.

[Mal]

Well, super bowl is what, second week of February?

[Julian]

Yeah, February 17th.

[Damaris]

So second week, third week, then.

[Mal]

Actually, that's late for this.

[Julian]

Yeah, it is.

[Rory]

Ninth.

[Damaris]

It's usually like the sixth, the fifth.

[Mal]

I mean, if only we had Google.

[Julian]

Sorry, my computer sucks. That was the 9th.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Rory]

February.

[Mal]

Yeah. End of January, maybe Grammy weekend.

[Julian]

The ninth is also Grammy weekend.

[Mal]

And then I'll have the image of what they say, an armful of Grammys.

[Damaris]

Yeah, the Beyonce image.

[Mal]

I could see him dropping something like that. Night of Grammys after he leaves with all his Grammys. Midnight. We have a Kendrick Lamar album on Sunday night.

[Julian]

Teeing up the transition here, Drake announced he's doing an Australian tour starting on Super Bowl Sunday, and he's going to be gone for, I believe, two months throughout that part of the world.

[Rory]

Australia.

[Julian]

Yeah, Australia.

[Mal]

Yo. Drake's a billionaire, so I'm sure it's not as bad for him because he can live, like, super comfortably. But I commend these artists, man, just leaving for two months in Australia. Like, it's beautiful.

[Julian]

That's fire.

[Rory]

It's amazing.

[Mal]

Yeah, it's probably beautiful for like three weeks. And then, like, you miss home.

[Rory]

You bring home what you bring home.

[Julian]

Wherever you go, man. At that level, you're bringing.

[Mal]

No, I'm saying I'm excluding Drake from it because he's a billionaire and I'm sure it's much easier for him.

[Rory]

But I don't know.

[Mal]

There's artists that do, like 2000 tickets, 1500 tickets that do this same run. That's got to suck.

[Rory]

I mean. Or you just don't like home.

[Mal]

Okay.

[Rory]

Can't wait to get away from home.

[Mal]

I think the first run is always great. Like, I even see it with EO now they're on their, like, fourth international tour. I can see they hate it now.

[Rory]

Oh, yeah. I mean, the grind definitely gets to you after a while. But, I mean, you know, you traveling the world and seeing. Seeing people that support your careers and, you know, fans of yours, I think that some. It gives you. It fuels you a little bit too, to keep doing what you're doing. And it's kind of like a reward that we love you, we love what you're doing, and thank you for coming to this part of the world because that's a haul. Australia for two months. That's the trip, bro.

[Mal]

Now, I don't think Drake did this purposely because it was. I don't think that's at all. There was those leaked text messages where he himself said he's enslaved to this Live Nation contract for the rest of the year. Yeah, I'm sure he was forced to have to do this tour. He continued his last tour way longer than it needed to be.

[Julian]

He hasn't been Australia, I believe he said it was like something eight some odd years, something like that. So He's.

[Mal]

Oh, okay.

[Julian]

He's long.

[Mal]

I don't think there's any connection with it starting on the day of the Super Bowl. I think he was going to go to Australia anyways. But before we get off super bowl and get to Drake streaming, I'm actually glad no one jumped in here to say, did Kendrick diss Lil Wayne? I.

[Rory]

That's.

[Mal]

That's what I hated the most over the weekend, watching that whole conspiracy have to happen on the timeline. He's. What about that as a dis. Like, at all?

[Rory]

Nothing.

[Mal]

Like, not even a tiny bit about it is a diss.

[Rory]

Nothing. Which is why, Wayne, you should just relax.

[Mal]

I agree. I didn't really. Wayne stays quiet. Why did you reply to that?

[Rory]

Wayne? Probably. He probably didn't. I'm a. You know. Cause Wayne is so. He seems. Well, he seems like. I don't know for sure. Wayne seems like he's very detached from what goes on on social media, which.

[Mal]

I think he's admitted that his team comes to him with shit.

[Rory]

Yeah. He probably just was fed that in a way where it could seem like it was negative.

[Mal]

I'm sure that's a great thought, but.

[Rory]

I would love for Wayne to hear that bar, which I'm sure he heard by now, and then pose something saying like, oh, that's not a diss. That's not a shot. Because that's definitely not a shot at Wayne. And I was kind of surprised to see Wayne go to social media and put the energy out, like, you know, leave me alone before there's war and heads decapitated or whatever he says.

[Mal]

Yeah, he just keeps to himself, which I thought was back to gaslighting a bit. I've never seen Wayne outside of, like, his actual great lyrics where he's gaslighting women, but this was some gaslighting shit. You weren't chilling. You did a whole run complaining that you were not on the super bowl, which is fine. I know that was your dream. It's your city. I get that you could feel away if this has been one of your biggest goals, but don't say you were quiet because you weren't.

[Rory]

He tweeted, man, what the fuck? I do. That sounds like me. I just be.

[Mal]

I just gaslighted.

[Rory]

I'd just be chilling and they still come from my head. Let's not take kindness for weakness. Let this giant sleep. I beg you all. No one really wants destruction, not even me. But I shall destroy if disturbed. On me, love.

[Mal]

I love the on me part.

[Damaris]

I really love Lil Wayne.

[Mal]

It's just.

[Damaris]

I really love it.

[Mal]

It was unnecessary to really reply. And then I didn't even, like, top going back and forth with it.

[Damaris]

He's just like an old man that's just, like, detached, and he's still so sweet and just like. He's just a sweet old man.

[Mal]

He's not that old.

[Rory]

Wayne is 43 years old.

[Mal]

He's just a sweet old man.

[Julian]

Wayne is 43?

[Rory]

Yeah, he's 43.

[Mal]

I thought maybe even younger.

[Damaris]

Sweet old man's a mean old man, but he's just so.

[Rory]

I'm mean sometimes. Who am I mean to? Who have I been mean to?

[Damaris]

You were just mean to me. All I did was ask for an apology because you were yelling at me, and I apologized. No, no, first you said, first of all, you. It's like, oh, my God.

[Rory]

I didn't say it like that. See? See how you put the sauce on there? I never. I never said, first of all, you. I never said that. I said, first of all, you have not apologized. That's what I said.

[Mal]

It was nothing tripping and I'm loving it.

[Rory]

It was nothing mean about what I said. I'm not mean. I just think that this tweet from Wayne.

[Julian]

I'm not mean.

[Rory]

I'm not mean.

[Mal]

That's the name of the episode. I'm not mean.

[Rory]

I'm not mean.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Nobody has ever said your maul's mean. Who's ever.

[Damaris]

Don't say. Nobody has ever said that.

[Rory]

Who said that?

[Julian]

They say you bully me every single. Go to our comments.

[Mal]

William cody. Go to YouTube.

[Julian]

Go to YouTube. That's, like, the friendliest platform, dude.

[Rory]

Okay. Am I mean to you, Julia?

[Julian]

Sometimes. I'm not. I always personal. We don't need to have this.

[Rory]

No, listen, listen. But when have I ever been mean to you? Tell me. Give me an example of me being mean.

[Mal]

I don't think anything on the mic should count, but that's just where I stand on this. Yeah, we're all mean to each other on this. This microphone.

[Rory]

I don't think I'm mean to anybody on this microphone. Mean. Do y'all know what mean means?

[Mal]

First of all, we, for the past month, have been screaming at each other.

[Rory]

That's still not mean.

[Mal]

Some people would view it. I don't view it that way. We're doing a podcast. But some people would view, like, wow, that was really mean to yell at him like that.

[Rory]

Oh, those are pussies, though. I'm not talking about them. I'm talking about, like, really mean. Like, I'm Not a mean person. Somebody has never said, yo, yo, he's mean. Mean and fam.

[Damaris]

What?

[Rory]

Mean.

[Julian]

Okay, let me find a.

[Damaris]

You were being mean to Kendrick throughout this entire beat.

[Julian]

Mean to Ken, mean to Kendrick.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

I've never even met that.

[Mal]

You were bullying him. Kendrick.

[Rory]

Yeah, man, get the out of here with that.

[Mal]

You were co signing Drake short jokes. Those were mean.

[Rory]

Yeah, I mean, I may have laughed, but that's not being mean. Like, I could laugh.

[Mal]

You were next to the bully laughing.

[Rory]

I mean.

[Damaris]

Yeah, that's.

[Mal]

That's the worst.

[Damaris]

That's a battle.

[Rory]

It's a battle, though. That's different. Once it's on, it's on.

[Mal]

I know it. It went on.

[Julian]

It was on.

[Rory]

It's on. It's a battle.

[Mal]

The roles reversed quickly.

[Rory]

Yeah, but we supposed to be mean during the battle. Nobody's supposed to be friendly during the battle.

[Mal]

Exactly. You're a pedophile.

[Rory]

Hey, that was a great bar. Like, what?

[Damaris]

He was definitely the homegirl that. When the two girls is fighting, it's like, yeah, drag that bitch. Drag that bitch.

[Mal]

That was. You don't do that because Tay. Rock, first of all, don't ever say.

[Rory]

I'm two homegirls that did anything. That's number one. Number two, I was not saying that I was consuming the music like we.

[Mal]

Were consuming the music.

[Rory]

I was consuming. Consuming bars. I was listening to music like everybody.

[Mal]

But then you went sensitive bully and drew the line where it's okay to say mean things to people in the battle until someone says pedophile.

[Rory]

You don't play with that.

[Mal]

Nah, nah, nah, nah.

[Rory]

I don't know how simple that is. You don't play with. Yeah, you don't play with that. You think that's cool to play with that word?

[Mal]

No.

[Rory]

All right, then. Exactly.

[Julian]

We play with it all the time.

[Rory]

No, we do not.

[Mal]

You guys make fun of me being touched by a pedophile all the time.

[Damaris]

That's Rory's lord.

[Mal]

Yeah, but that's. I mean, that's my situation.

[Rory]

Yeah, but if you.

[Mal]

That's my N word.

[Rory]

If you make.

[Mal]

Only I'm allowed to say.

[Rory]

But if you making fun of it, I'm supposed to sit here and be like, yo, you shouldn't make fun of that.

[Mal]

I don't know.

[Rory]

I'm supposed to laugh with you.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Rory]

I've got to help my friend through his pain, that's all.

[Damaris]

Through his pants.

[Mal]

By making fun of me.

[Rory]

I'm laughing with you.

[Julian]

Fair.

[Rory]

I'm ad libbing on your joke. That's all. Well, but yeah, Wayne, sit down, man.

[Mal]

That guy was certainly not like us.

[Rory]

Wayne gotta chill, man. I don't even want Wayne to even halfway right. What'd you say?

[Julian]

Nothing, Nothing, nothing. Here's the line from Kendrick, by the way, that I used to bump the car to three.

[Rory]

I held my rolly chain proud. Irony. I think my hard work let Lil Wayne down. Got the strip of that. Only one to congratulate me. All these niggas agitated. I'm just glad it's on their faces.

[Damaris]

That's. That's not disrespectful.

[Rory]

All these agitated. I'm just glad it's on their faces. How's that disrespectful?

[Mal]

Okay, first of all, this is misleading. And probably why Wayne got bad information.

[Julian]

About this line is like Nowhere near it.

[Mal]

18 or 20 bars after that first one.

[Damaris]

Okay.

[Rory]

I mean, but I could see, you know, got the super bowl and only one that congratulated me was Nas. And all these other dudes are agitated. I'm just glad it's on their faces. I get it. But even that's not a.

[Mal]

That's not a. I think the first one was a genuine thought. Like, I worked this hard to get to a place where the super bowl would ask me to do halftime. Like, that's a crazy accomplishment in my world for sure. And then someone I looked up to, it's clearly hurting them. So, yeah, I think it was a genuine like. Like, damn, I deserve this. But now it feels like it's weirdly in spite because someone that I idolize. And if you listen to Kendrick Lamar, clearly he is influenced by Lil Wayne. Like, no one would debate that. Yeah. Now this guy is sad that he can't have it in his city. And I'm the one they picked.

[Rory]

Yeah. But even in that, I don't think that there's. I don't think throughout that whole moment when it was first announced that Kendrick was doing the Super Bowl, I don't remember Wayne ever saying anything like, to spite Kendrick or to be like, no, me.

[Mal]

No, no.

[Rory]

I think he was just saying that he was heartbroken that he didn't get it.

[Mal]

But it. All right. But it also, like, not to say it stepped on Kendrick's moment. Cause it was just kind of one pocket of the Internet that was really super outraged that Wayne didn't get it. But the hip hop community was loves Lil Wayne, so it did kind of.

[Rory]

Hold on, hold on. Slow down before you finish it.

[Mal]

And that's where I think he was going with the only people that congratulated me was Nas like, damn, I thought that was a big moment for hip hop for me, Kendrick Lamar, to get this. And now it's being stepped on because Wayne deserves it. And now they're questioning, I only got it because of not like us. And I could see him feeling away about that.

[Rory]

Cool and great. But what I'm saying mean.

[Mal]

That was fucking mean.

[Rory]

How is that mean? What I'm saying is I never heard Wayne say Kendrick didn't deserve that. I never heard him say that.

[Mal]

But it stepped on his moment when he was talking.

[Rory]

I mean, if he's expressing him being, you know, feeling away because he wasn't pissed cool, then he has that right to feel that way.

[Mal]

I agree.

[Rory]

But he didn't say, yo, y'all should have gave it to me over Kendrick. It would have been any.

[Julian]

Whoever would have lied.

[Rory]

No, whoever would have gotten it over Wayne. Wayne would have felt the way about that.

[Mal]

Yeah, I know. But either way, let's go with what's tangible. Like what? No matter what he's saying, I should have gotten it over Kendrick Lamar.

[Rory]

Yeah, but he. No, he's really saying I should have got it over anybody.

[Mal]

Yeah, but it was Kendrick.

[Rory]

But Kendrick is the one that got it. But he's not saying, fuck Kendrick. He. I want that over him. Like, he didn't say that. He was just like, yo, I'm hurt. You know, I wanted it. That's something that I wanted. But, you know, whatever.

[Damaris]

I think it's multiplied by the fact of who. Who Lil Wayne is connected to and the moment all of this is happening. And I think that's why it looks like it's more of a shot.

[Rory]

But that's why I'm saying anybody that would have got that super bowl slot, Wayne would have felt the way about because it wasn't him. But naturally, like you said, because of the affiliation, Drake is his man, his artist. He's the one that gave Drake, you know, his opportunity to become the superstar that he is. All of that, we gotta factor in cool. But Wayne didn't diss Kendrick. He didn't say, yo, fuck Kendrick. That belongs to me. That should have been me. Anybody that would have got it now, Kendrick responded saying, nobody congratulated me outside of Nas.

[Mal]

I don't think that's a Wayne diss, though, because I don't think it's not a Wayne diss expecting Wayne to come out.

[Rory]

I don't think Kendrick dissed Wayne at all in any of this. I don't think he dissed Wayne. Like, I don't Think this was a diss, which is why I don't think Wayne should have posted what he posted, because it's like, bro, that wasn't. That wasn't. If you feel like that's a diss, then I'm with y'all. Then I. You dissed. You dissed Kendrick.

[Mal]

What's heartbreaking, though, is, you know, to what Damaris was just saying, if this situation didn't happen, we could have had Wayne come out with Kendrick. That would have been a great fucking moment in New Orleans, and it probably.

[Damaris]

Would have happened, too.

[Rory]

No way.

[Damaris]

You don't think that would have happened?

[Rory]

Kendrick bringing Wayne out?

[Julian]

No.

[Mal]

If never happens, why is that a problem?

[Rory]

Oh, if the beef.

[Damaris]

If the beef never happened.

[Rory]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Mal]

No, no. Cause I. I still think. Yes. Do I think not like us definitely helped in Jay Z's decision of going, hey, we should have Kendrick this year. He's on fire. I get it. But Kendrick would still deserve the super bowl regardless. So I think there's a world where Kendrick still gets offered the super bowl in New Orleans, and we would have had that moment where Wayne could have came out with Kendrick in New Orleans. I think that would have been great. But no, obviously. Obviously. Now Lil Wayne would not be coming out at this.

[Rory]

Not. Not a chance.

[Mal]

No, that would not happen. Breaking news has just came across our podcasting desk. Drake accuses UMG and Spotify of a scheme to artificially inflate Kendrick Lamar's. Not like us. We go to mall with more breaking news. Who we understand filed these charges right before recording today.

[Rory]

Some good tea right here.

[Mal]

Okay, so this is all happening while we're recording, so bear with us. We're. We're catching up with it as well. There's a legal petition, so not an actual filing. They're not being sued yet. It's a petition going through the proper channels.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Julian]

The Bronx.

[Mal]

Drake's company accuses UMG and Spotify of serious wrongdoing in a stunning twist, months after his high profile. All right, I don't care about that part. Court Drake has initiated legal action against Universal Music Group and Spotify over allegations that the two companies conspired to artificially inflate. Not Like Us in a filing. Monday, November 25, in a Manhattan court. Drake's frozen moments, which we saw constantly this year. Now I see what they. They've been a legal team the whole time. This wasn't distro. It's just a team of lawyers. Team of them said UMG has put out an illegal scheme Involving bots, payola, and other methods to pump up Lamar's song. So where I'm confused. Before we get to the rest of this article, are you allowed to sue someone for inflating a song that isn't yours?

[Julian]

Are you allowed to sue someone for marketing?

[Mal]

Because that's where it's a little odd. But as we continue on with this article, the only point I can see, because obviously, I'm a legal expert, they have manipulated Siri to deflect people. When they asked Siri, hey, can you play Drake? It would play Kendrick, not like us. That's kind of the only point I can see, because according to Billboard, they are accusing UMG of the RICO stature, often use criminal cases and organized crime. How is this a rico?

[Rory]

I just want to hear music, man. I don't know what's happening right now. I just want to hear raps.

[Mal]

Okay, I guess I can see Drake's point. Let's start with outside of the legal shit, somebody suing during a rap battle, I think that means you definitely lost. Like, you lose. This is it. We thought Kendrick's album, the Not Like Us video, all that shit, was the final nail in the coffin. This is the final nail in the coffin. If you sue during a rap battle where no one was even harmed. Yeah, you lost.

[Damaris]

That would be different if he was suing Kendrick. He's not suing Kendrick.

[Rory]

Yeah, that's. See, that's what I'm saying. Yeah, y'all so quick to jump to that. Look at what he. He's saying that they're saying, yo, people wanted to hear Drake's music and they were directing him to not like us. You don't think an artist has.

[Mal]

Okay, so what happens when Murder Mook sues smack over a battle? Like, what are you talking about?

[Rory]

Why you keep going to a battle, bro? I'm just talking about if people are asking Siri to play your album and they're directing it to another artist, battle or not.

[Mal]

No, I get it.

[Rory]

That's an issue.

[Damaris]

I'm losing money.

[Mal]

That's an issue. I totally do understand that. I just think it's an interesting case. And jokes aside, I am very excited to see where this goes because it.

[Rory]

Might benefit a lot of artists.

[Mal]

This could open the fucking floodgates when it comes to streaming farms, fake streams, how they marketed, how they manipulate the stream, how they manipulate playlisting.

[Rory]

Exactly this. There you go. Speak to that.

[Mal]

I know, but, you know, I'm happy about this.

[Rory]

I know you are. You got an album coming and they.

[Mal]

Won'T let me manipulate.

[Rory]

Exactly.

[Mal]

I have organic sales. It sucks.

[Rory]

Exactly.

[Damaris]

Oh, yeah, we gotta talk about that on Patreon, too.

[Mal]

Oh, yeah. See, you owe me an apology. All of you do. What, because my organic. Never mind.

[Damaris]

We talk about on Patreon.

[Mal]

Just know I sell just as much as your favorite that you think is great.

[Rory]

I mean.

[Julian]

Why are you looking like I don't get.

[Mal]

No, no, no. I know you guys called me wood, aluminum, every last thing my album did, but my album did organic. Organic sales the same as your favorite. That's on your major. Either way, let's get back to this.

[Rory]

And I feel like I said, yo, play Rory one time, and they play some whole other shit. So we might have a case.

[Julian]

They play games.

[Mal]

So we have to assume we have to sue me, say, yeah, we.

[Rory]

We got a case, man. We got a case.

[Mal]

The only.

[Julian]

The only thing that's legitimate outside of what Rory said about the Siri part of this alleged lawsuit, is the last filing here on our notes, is the UMG allegedly fired anybody who was loyal to Drake. Curious to see how that is proven and see how that carries through.

[Mal]

Let's not act like that's not a typical lawsuit within companies where people are fired for reasons they shouldn't be fired for, for having allegiance to certain people and companies. They've been fired. That's not. That's a valid point, in my opinion. I'm sure that happened, and I'm sure that's. You can prove that that's a typical case within a corporation, but every other.

[Julian]

Filing on here is just typical label shit. Honestly, the things that I'm looking at here, like, this is every single label. This is how you promote a song. This is how you make moments. They did. Like, none of this, to me at least, is foul play.

[Damaris]

Well, the Spotify got compensation from UMG for recommending Not Like Us and didn't disclose it because you are supposed to disclose that right now.

[Rory]

Baby D. Go ahead.

[Damaris]

That you got compensation. You got paid to advertise this.

[Julian]

I mean, but like, that do you need to explicitly say that all these labels, they're all in bed with each other streaming? Like that. That's weird to just say this one song. No, like, all of UMG was pumping money into Spotify and vice versa. Like, that's not. Like, why would they just feel the need to just call out one record when over the course of the entire calendar year? That's what they've been doing.

[Rory]

Y'all missing. The biggest part about this, to me is UMG doesn't want to engage with Drake and they're telling him to sue Lamar instead. That's crazy to me.

[Julian]

That's label shit too, though.

[Rory]

But that's. That's what I'm saying. That's what.

[Damaris]

They got nothing to do with that.

[Mal]

But we. All right, we don't know between PG Lang and we know that he signed a distribution deal with umg.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Mal]

So maybe UMG is suggesting that everything they're accusing UMG of was actually from PG Lang and it wasn't from us. We didn't do this manipulation that came from your independent company. We just did distro. We didn't put a budget behind this. We weren't the ones that did everything you're accusing us of. That was Kendrick's company.

[Damaris]

PG Lang ain't got the money to pay.

[Mal]

Kendrick was independent. Once this all happened, you don't have.

[Damaris]

The money to pay Siri to play Kendrick when she should be playing Drake. I don't think that's UMG money. That ain't pg.

[Mal]

I'm not disagreeing with you whatsoever. But I think a lot of the Spotify stuff that they were accused of could be a direct Kendrick conversation with Spotify. I don't think that has to be umg. But to that point, I've said for years on here, when I was working at Sony and Spotify went public, they emailed me and said I couldn't buy stock. It'd be insider trading. So I think this should expose that the labels have percentage of the DSPs. It's unfair to begin with.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Of course Spotify got compensation from UMG from Not Like Us.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Mal]

UMG at one point owned 25% of Spotify. So Drake has a case here, and I think he's the only artist that's able to do this outside of maybe a Taylor. And, you know, artists that don't need streams to be manipulated, it would behoove them not to manipulate Drake streams because then he'd have more credence for offering like, I need more fucking money, guys. I keep this whole shit moving. I keep the lights on here. He's the only artist that could say, fuck. Fuck y'all. Let's. Let's look into this. Who's been manipulating streams? But all this shit doesn't make sense.

[Julian]

Isn't this odd, though? Because isn't Drake's deal with UMG as well?

[Damaris]

Yeah, they're cold. They're cold people.

[Julian]

So that's my thing. It's like he's.

[Mal]

He's suing, but he clearly has had a very odd relationship with them for sure, for quite some time. Not even just post beef, but we know for a fact it was crazy after post beef because of the 100 gigs thing. Not to say y'all laughed me out the room, but I said this is insane that he's purposely doing this without them.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Mal]

To prove a point to them. There's no way UMG is not upset that he's taking all this footage that is him recording songs that they own and they're not upset about it.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Mal]

This has been a battle for a while and I'm curious to see where it lands. Drake has a lot of money, but like you said, UMG lawyers is a little different.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Mal]

You could be a billionaire and still not take down umg.

[Damaris]

And just not even. Just the money, the relationships as well that they have.

[Mal]

So, I mean, again, Drake's one of the only artists where that won't matter. Like, Drake will be fine.

[Damaris]

Of course he'll be fine. But I don't know if he gonna win this lawsuit. If he does officially file.

[Mal]

I mean, I think it's interesting. I just think it's.

[Rory]

Is it officially filed as a lawsuit or.

[Damaris]

No, it's not competition right now.

[Mal]

Yeah, we don't know what it is, but let's speculate. I think this could be an example that's brought up. If it goes the way I think it's going to go that's brought up for decades on Aubrey Graham vs. UMG will be brought up in plenty of fucking lawsuits when it comes to labels and artists. This could be a monumental decision and not just because of Kendrick and Drake. I'm not saying that at all.

[Rory]

No, I get it.

[Mal]

But being able to manipulate stream songs, how we get our music. Yes, this could be monumental. Or it could get buried and we'll never talk about it again.

[Rory]

Oh, it won't. It's not gonna get buried. But I do agree with you that it's a monumental thing. I just think that it's, you know, this news just dropping is a little too fresh for us to really understand exactly what's happening. But I think it's interesting. I think that we saw some things during that whole back and forth while, yes, it was a battle, but I think the artists and their business, you know, that's what they were paying attention to. Like, okay, this is affecting businesses. Like, this is something going on behind the scenes where they're now trying to manipulate the business of this thing. Forget the music. The business is a little. Some funny shit going On.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

And I think this is just their way of kind of, you know, calling attention to it, things that's going on. Because I think that, you know, if they can do it with one artist, who else are they doing, doing it with and doing it for? So I mean, you know, just gotta wait and see where it goes.

[Mal]

And I think, you know, it'll show. I think Kendrick's sales are incredible what he's projected to do, but you'll see a drastic difference between what the sales were with one single versus what they were for an album. And you could of course, add in the no rollout thing. There's so many factors.

[Rory]

Song not being on the album.

[Mal]

Just so many factors. So I don't want to make it, you know, specifically that. But Not Like Us was a different monster numbers wise. Like it was in our faces. No. No matter what, whether we liked it or not, it was at the top of every playlist anytime. Which I came in here reluctantly because I knew it would make you happy. I'd be on Spotify, and if an album ended, I'd be on my R and B shit. The next song would be Not Like Us. Like, it wasn't like I was in some rap algorithm. Like let's go with the most popular song. I'd be listening to jazz. And then that album would end. And then Spotify does what Spotify does. It just puts you into something else. You continue to listen to music. Be Not Like Us Every time. Yeah, every time.

[Julian]

Here's an interesting line from the filing. UMG launched a campaign to manipulate and saturate the streaming services and airwaves with the song Not Like Us in order to make the song go viral, including bots pay, blah, blah, blah. The filing states claiming UMG charged Spotify 30% less than the usual licensing rates in exchange for Spotify pushing recommendations for Not Like Us to quote users who were searching for other unrelated songs and artists. So, right to Rory's point.

[Mal]

So, okay, you should be able to sue.

[Julian]

That's ridiculous.

[Mal]

I just don't know if Drake legal. Because I don't understand legal jargon the best way. Does that mean Drake would be the one to sue? Because that. That should be illegal. That should. That's like legitimately insider trading.

[Damaris]

His team is his filing a petition.

[Mal]

Yeah, but.

[Rory]

But that's not the same as. That's not suing.

[Damaris]

He's not suing for compensation.

[Julian]

But to Rory's point, like, because this could theoretically be a class action lawsuit.

[Mal]

Yeah, where.

[Julian]

Where would those payouts go to? Because in this instance, yes. Drake was the biggest victim of this, you know, supposed scheme. The game that Spotify and not like us, were running behind the scenes. That being said, it affects every artist that's on Spotify.

[Mal]

That's what I'm saying. So is this an artist thing where Drake can start this petition where every artist that is on UMG didn't have fair rights to their music with their partner, even if it was distribution or actually signed to umg? Am I now allowed to sue the company I'm partnered with? Because clearly this is unfair practice right here.

[Damaris]

Yeah, I mean, I think that that's possible because.

[Mal]

Good for Drake, man. I know he's going to get killed for this because it's rap battle shit and you're not, you pussy. If you do sue or anything like that, he's going to look nuts here. But this is really important what he's doing. Yeah, this is really, really important because.

[Damaris]

Because if there has to be a number one. So if, if I'm supposed to be number one and you're in my spot, you're. Now if somebody's searching for me, that's one less stream. Like even if it is pennies on a dollar when it happens millions of times. Like you taking, you taking money out of my pocket, you taking money out of other artists pockets.

[Mal]

And now this kind of goes back to when we always used to say years and years ago, what is a stream? We don't know what that is and what that equals. And then they, they try to explain it to us. One stream is worth 0.00001. Whatever. Okay, but we have an issue with that because you guys are now setting the standard of what I should be paid out for my music with a company that you're in bed with. This is. This would never work in any other industry. Yeah, you're setting the price of what we should be paid. You can't do that. That's not how America works. Now you're able to lower that 30% for one artist and no one else. So I was already getting fucked because you set the price on my music.

[Rory]

Right?

[Mal]

And now the compensation is 30% less. That'll be our agreement if you can keep pushing this. Right, so now the payment that you said already, that's unfair is even different and only changed for one artist. Fuck you. Yeah, I'm suing.

[Rory]

Yeah, makes sense.

[Mal]

That lowering for 30% is insane.

[Damaris]

And I'm not gonna lie. I doubt that Kendrick is the first artist that they did this with facts. I just think that Drake is the first one to bring attention to it because of the Kendrick thing and because the battle was so big and people were tweeting about it and talk about it. But I'm sure this flies under the radar all the time. I wouldn't be surprised if some of our biggest streaming artists had same deal.

[Mal]

Oh, for sure. And that's why I'm saying only Drake would be. Would be in the position to do this, because he doesn't need them to manipulate anything to get his streams.

[Julian]

I can tell you wholeheartedly a lot of the numbers you see are not real. Especially on you as someone that used to pay for those numbers. That's what that shit is.

[Mal]

Not real. I love the old saying, men lie, women lie, numbers don't. Numbers fucking lie.

[Julian]

All money can make anybody lie.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Mal]

So, yeah, we'll keep our eyes on this. I'm excited to see how this plays out because this is really, really big. This is really big.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Mal]

This was like that Nikki and Hot 97 lawsuit that never ended up going through that I wanted to go through. But we shall see with this. And I mean, stay tuned because we're.

[Damaris]

Going to be here giving y'all all the tea. Y'all know we've eaten up on it from Billboard. Listen.

[Mal]

Who's also in cahoots. I don't care too much to talk about this Drake stream. I think people blew it a little bit out of proportion. But, yeah, I mean, I guess he looks crazy. I don't know.

[Rory]

I didn't see any of this. I don't know what this stream is.

[Damaris]

Was he smoking?

[Mal]

Who?

[Rory]

I don't know who? Q. What's the name? Qxc.

[Julian]

Yeah. So this streamer that he was on is signed with again. Obviously he did this because it's a contractual thing. This is a kick streamer. I guess Steak owns kick or whatever that relationship is.

[Rory]

Okay. The gambling.

[Mal]

Yeah, the gambling.

[Julian]

So they went on there and they played, like, all their virtual roulette, whatever the fuck they play.

[Rory]

Okay.

[Julian]

But in the process, this streamer, who clearly doesn't know much about music, was just like, playing records. He ended up playing shuffle and a weekend song came on and Drake goes, you've got to switch this. We're real Sixers. Like, we don't play that. Like, noon. Whatever he says. And then it was just like the thing that makes it bad. The which to the. Yeah. To make Drake look crazy, so to speak, is like you keep putting yourself further and further in his echo chamber, where you pretend you're unbothered and then you do things like this, and every little thing that comes up that might be related to the beef or like, has a tangible relation. He does these things for publicly where he's like, fuck that. Or like, I don't play that.

[Rory]

But you could. Hold on, hold on a little bit. See, that's. That's one thing I don't like. You could be unbothered. But if I don't fuck with somebody, an artist, and I'm sitting here with you and his music, I'm going to tell you, I'm not bothered. I just. Yo, he's not getting no play. I know how many people are watching this stream right now, but it just looks worse.

[Julian]

That's all I'm saying.

[Rory]

Clearly, I'm not fucking with these dudes. How does it look worse? You think I'm supposed to sit here and like, yo, turn that up. That's my jam. Okay, I'm not fucking with you.

[Mal]

It got tied into also his introduction before any music was played. When he sat down with this guy, he said, oh, I should probably introduce myself. My name is Drake. I make music. Clearly you can see I'm still intact. My body, my mind, my spirit. Only facts can take me down. Like, he clearly was talking about this year. So after that he start, you know, when music was played, I'm with you. If I don't fuck with someone, turn that shit off. I don't wanna hear that.

[Rory]

I was just.

[Mal]

But he started it out. Like, his introduction had to do with something that had to do with the beef.

[Julian]

Here it is. I'm Drake, this is XQC real streaming legend.

[Mal]

Me, I do music.

[Julian]

In case you didn't know, I'm here.

[Rory]

As you can see, fully intact. Mind, body and soul. In case you were wondering, right?

[Mal]

Mind, body and soul.

[Rory]

Mind, body and soul.

[Julian]

You need facts to take me out.

[Rory]

Fairy tales won't do it. Cheers to everybody.

[Mal]

Words live by.

[Rory]

Words to live by.

[Julian]

Real talk shit to everybody.

[Damaris]

Love that does give bother. Because, like, who's even thinking about that? Like, nobody's think about that. That's on your mind.

[Mal]

I wish you would have rapped that. Not the mind, body and soul shit. But only facts could take me out. Not fairy tales. That's a bar. And I wish he would have wrapped it. It looks kind of crazy when you're next to somebody that knows nothing, nothing.

[Julian]

About what's going on.

[Rory]

But y'all would have said the same thing. If he put that bar in a song.

[Mal]

I would like that bar.

[Rory]

He's bothered.

[Mal]

He said, I Want Drake no matter what. I'm the one that keeps saying I want Drake to continue to rap about this.

[Rory]

No, I understand that. But no matter what he says, what he does, people are gonna say he's bothered.

[Mal]

Oh, for sure.

[Rory]

He's affected by it. The star power is gone. He doesn't sit with anybody from the culture. He's. It's like, bro, what are these are. This is things he would have been doing even if the beef never happened. He would have been probably sitting with this dude because he has business with State.

[Damaris]

Well, people have been saying that he hasn't sat with people with the culture. That was a complaint before. The beef is that he doesn't.

[Rory]

But he sat with people in the culture. Kendrick don't sit. I don't think Kendrick don't sit with nobody.

[Julian]

He sat with Scissors.

[Mal]

She's of the culture. I mean, but you could say that about Cole. I mean, the last time Cole said.

[Rory]

That about a bunch of people is my point. That's my point.

[Mal]

But that was like 10 years ago.

[Rory]

That's my point. You can say that about a bunch of.

[Damaris]

But the difference is. And I'm. This is not my critique of Drake. Cause I don't give a fuck. But what people are saying is that Drake sits with a bunch of people. He just doesn't sit with people of the culture. The other ones that you named don't sit with nobody.

[Rory]

But he said.

[Mal]

That's the point. I was gonna get to these guys. Don't sit with anyone at all. Yeah, Drake sits with a lot of people. That's where the critique comes from, I will say. I mean, I know he had this for some contracts.

[Rory]

Who from the culture has he not sat with that people want to see him sit with us?

[Julian]

You.

[Rory]

All right, but then stop saying that. Don't even put. Don't. Don't name this platform at all. Who he sat with? Elliott Wilson a couple times had Elliott Wilson and BDOT in his home. Yeah, he sat. He was on the shot with LeBron and everybody else that's from the culture. Like, who else do people want to see him sit with? Like, this is just shit that's been.

[Mal]

More so this year with everything that's been going on. Cause he was with what, Aiden have that correct? He was with a few other streamers.

[Julian]

Him and Aiden are close.

[Rory]

So during the beef, y'all.

[Mal]

The Bobby shit.

[Rory]

Okay, so during the beef, they want him to sit with.

[Mal]

Who?

[Rory]

Who do they want him to sit with during the beef? Don't say this platform, Shannon.

[Damaris]

Sorry.

[Rory]

So he didn't go on Club Shay Shay. So he's not of the culture.

[Julian]

Drink Champs. Probably people would like.

[Rory]

So he doesn't. He doesn't go on Drink champs. So he's not of the culture.

[Mal]

I don't know if I'd want. I'd want. I want a Drink Champs Drake episode. But not mid beef.

[Damaris]

Yeah, I know for sure.

[Rory]

So this is my thing. Like just saying things to say things, man.

[Julian]

For the record, I don't agree with that critique.

[Mal]

Oh yeah. We're also not sitting here.

[Damaris]

We're telling you what people's critiques are.

[Rory]

But that's what. And we're speaking to the people. Yeah, cut the shit. He sat with people from the culture. He's done that.

[Julian]

I just think. And I get it, the contract that it. But I think he could have done this without doing this. You know what I mean? Like, do the thing. Fulfill your contractual obligation. This guy clearly has no idea what's going on in the music world. He like, at one point he's just playing song. The guy said, Drake says, can you play Young Thug? The guy plays a future song. Like he doesn't know.

[Mal]

And I'm not on the side. Even like when Elliot had called Drake out before and Drake had said that hilarious response. Like, you're doing yes, Jules run up interviews at Rolling Loud and you sit with you hilarious reply.

[Julian]

Yeah, he pieced him up. That's a really good.

[Mal]

The music nerd and like real hip hop guy in me hates these moments when Aiden Ross is like the one that gets inexclusive on a record to put out. And like, this guy knows nothing about music. Music. It's like a mockery of hip hop to me. And with this guy, I don't know anything about him. Apparently he's a legend. I don't know. Not my will music.

[Rory]

Was he on there? Told my.

[Mal]

They were playing. They were playing music and going through.

[Rory]

Records, but I didn't see the stream.

[Julian]

They were on there to gamble, basically. And then like, obviously with Drake as musician on the guy's like, Drake's like, hey, I'll play some music. And the guy started playing music. And then like three of the songs that came up because he was just playing shuffle or popular music were like people that he actively has beef with with.

[Mal]

And he'd be familiar.

[Julian]

And then. And then. Then when Drake made a request, he ended up playing a future song. And then he played like a Steve Lazy song and he was like, that's a free. What do you call them? A friendly op or Something.

[Mal]

No, a fragile.

[Julian]

Fragile.

[Mal]

Which was hilarious.

[Rory]

He called him a what?

[Mal]

A fragile. A fragile op.

[Rory]

He called Steve Lacey a fragile op?

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Which Steve Lacey posted on his Twitter with laughing emojis. I think Steve Lacey probably found that very fun. I don't think so.

[Julian]

Again, he's playing music. This guy's no clue what the situation is with Drake right now.

[Rory]

This guy's like a fragile op. But he, like, dog fragile is the funniest.

[Damaris]

I got a couple.

[Rory]

I got a few fragile ops.

[Mal]

Oh, it's definitely some fragile ops.

[Rory]

Fragile op is hilarious.

[Julian]

So then Lacy. Yeah, to Rory's point, made full. He capitalized on it immediately. I mean, this is hilarious.

[Mal]

I don't think Steve Lacey was offended by that at all.

[Julian]

I really.

[Mal]

I really think he was just laughing.

[Rory]

Fragile op is fucking.

[Julian]

This post is hilarious. You trying to be my fragile?

[Rory]

Fragile op is fucking hilarious. That is. That is funny. And I understand what he means, but.

[Mal]

But I totally can see someone tearing apart my argument of hating this stuff. This is really just my internal music nerd shit that hates seeing this. I understand. I'm old and don't understand it. And I'll be left behind because I don't know all the white streamer kids that don't fuck with hip hop, and that's who I should like. I just don't like these moments.

[Julian]

Yeah, this kid's a professional Overwatch streamer.

[Mal]

It's just. It's.

[Julian]

He's also Canadian from Quebec.

[Mal]

It's no logic. It's all emotion and anger. When I see certain people have access to the music world like this that do not care about it whatsoever, it just bothers me.

[Rory]

Yeah, but this was not about, like, Aiden Ross.

[Mal]

I can respect Aidan Ross and what he's built on his platform and totally understand his own personal genius and what he does. I don't think he should ever have a single bit of access to anything that has to do with music.

[Rory]

Cool. But this wasn't about music. This was about steak and the gambling app. So that's why.

[Mal]

No, I know.

[Rory]

It's just people are upset about this.

[Mal]

Because maybe I don't view Drake as a professional poker player. I view him as one of the greatest.

[Rory]

So anytime that we sit on camera, he's supposed to be talking about music?

[Mal]

No, but they started talking about music.

[Rory]

Supposed to be sitting with somebody from the culture.

[Mal]

Talk about blackjack, bro. I don't want to hear this shit.

[Rory]

So let me get this straight.

[Mal]

You can kill my argument. It's anger. It's not logic.

[Rory]

I'M just trying to ask because there's people that feel like you. So I just want to know. So Drake, anytime Drake sits on Michael Cameron, he has to be talking about music.

[Mal]

No.

[Rory]

Or he has to be sitting with somebody from the culture.

[Mal]

Absolutely not.

[Rory]

Okay. That's all I'm. I just, I didn't understand what people were so mad about.

[Mal]

I just don't want any music talk with someone that thinks future is young thug.

[Rory]

Okay, I respect that.

[Mal]

I don't. I don't know. I don't think Aiden Ross. This is going to sound like hate and shit. I promise you it's actually not hate. I don't think Aiden Ross should ever, ever have the ability to leak or put out a record before anyone else. I don't think he should have the drop. I don't think as much as we critique Flex, I don't think Aiden Ross and Flex should have the same access. I just don't.

[Rory]

So you don't. So you don't think. You don't think Kai should have the same accent?

[Mal]

I think Kai should.

[Rory]

Because he's black?

[Mal]

No.

[Rory]

Why?

[Mal]

Kai clearly has some connection with music.

[Rory]

What is his connection with music?

[Mal]

Have you never watched his streams? He gives actual real critiques on music all the time. Like that's constantly what he does.

[Damaris]

Yeah, Kai does that.

[Mal]

I know he loves hip hop for sure. And I love that he has a perfect balance of not having to be the negative criticism and can just bring love and laughter into his platform but still be on his stream when everything drops. Given real reactions of someone that actually cares about it. I don't think Aiden Ross gives a single fuck about anything that has to do with hip hop unless it brings him numbers. I think, I think Kai would listen to his music whether he was streaming or not. I think Aiden is taking advantage of a lot of that shit and inserting himself in rap beefs and gun violence and then saying, yo, I, I told you, I'm a civilian. I'm pussy. This is my security. But you know he'll pull up on you like, come on, Corny.

[Rory]

Makes sense. I got it.

[Damaris]

Revenge of the nerds. We live in the time of revenge.

[Mal]

Of the fucking nerds and anything else they do. I'm not hating in that regard. This is just my anger emotional music nerd self. I think Aiden serves a purpose in the world. He's richer, he's cooler. I understand. But when it comes to music, I just don't think we should give these people access to that shit. It.

[Rory]

Well said. I'm not Mad at that.

[Julian]

Okay, well, speaking of that, he's richer.

[Mal]

And cooler than me.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Julian]

Getting revenge back and taking your power back. The white people blackballed Shaboozi at the cmas. He did not win a single award this year, even though he obviously, like Damaris, has said of repeatedly on this platform, has had the biggest song of the year by a landslide. He just tied Lil Nas X's Billboard chart run.

[Mal]

And that's. That's without Miley Cyrus's death.

[Julian]

Yes. Without Billy Ray.

[Rory]

Did. Did. Did little Nas X win a cma?

[Julian]

I don't know. Was he even nominated?

[Damaris]

I don't even think he was nominated.

[Mal]

Cyrus.

[Julian]

Oh, yeah. When the. Billy. When he got the white co sign.

[Mal]

They were like, I guess once Miley made that connection and A R that he was accepted by. He was accepted by the whites for a little while till they realized he was gay.

[Julian]

Yeah, that's true. That's not a good look for them.

[Rory]

Okay.

[Julian]

But yeah, Shabuzi was shut out. And then there was, like, kind of a bit of a shade thrown at him in the acceptance speech of Chris Staples.

[Rory]

So they shut him out and threw shade.

[Julian]

So at the acceptance speech, they said, okay, I misspoke. It wasn't Chris Staples. And they made the comment it was a producer, Cody Johnson. After accepting this award, here's the reply that got the Internet in an uproar.

[Mal]

It takes an army of people to.

[Julian]

Make a great record. But I gotta tell you, this is.

[Mal]

For this cowboy who's been kicking Shabuza.

[Rory]

For a lot of years, y'all.

[Mal]

Cody Johnson.

[Rory]

It takes.

[Mal]

All right, I see where he was trying to take it. Was Shabuzi nominated in this category?

[Julian]

Yeah, Song of the year, Whatever. It was.

[Mal]

Okay, then I can see why people were offended by that. If he was just saying he's been trying to kick butt for a lot of years. Cool. But if Shabuzi's in the category and.

[Rory]

You just beat him, he knew what.

[Mal]

He knew what he was.

[Julian]

It's a shitty double. On.

[Rory]

It wasn't. Now, I'm not gonna say. I'm not gonna say he was trying to. On Shibuzi, but he knew to play on words. Like, he's been kicking Shaboozie for like. But, you know, I'm not gonna say that he was like, yeah, Shabuzi. I'm not saying that was the energy.

[Mal]

But no, if Shaboozy wasn't in that category, I'd be like, all right, he was just trying to be funny.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

But. Nah, not if I'm in that category now. I might storm the fucking stage. Kick who?

[Damaris]

Ain't everybody.

[Rory]

Shaboozi is a word that they use in, like, country. Like, Ray, isn't that a word?

[Mal]

Yeah, but come on.

[Rory]

That's not the first time I heard Shabuzi. That's not the first time since when this song came out. I've definitely heard shibuzi before.

[Mal]

Even if you add, like, that's still the number one song of the year at. And you're at the Country Music Awards, and I'm in the category, and I lost.

[Rory]

No, no, no, you're right.

[Mal]

I'm a kick.

[Rory]

I'm not mad at that. You're absolutely right. I'm just saying that word is not.

[Julian]

It's not a word.

[Rory]

That's not what I'm thinking about. I promise y'all.

[Damaris]

My name, baby.

[Rory]

It's not what I'm thinking about. I promise.

[Mal]

That guy looks like he says caboose, not shaboozy. He should have said caboose. That guy definitely says kicking caboose.

[Rory]

Okay. Replied get kicked in you.

[Julian]

He did reply and said, ain't nobody kicking me or something like that. Trying to find it. But yeah, he had a few things. He just tweeted this 55 seconds ago. They tried to bury us. They didn't know we were seeds. You didn't even peep the seeds.

[Mal]

Mall y'all are hating, dog. Beyonce didn't show up, I assume.

[Damaris]

Beyonce.

[Rory]

Beyonce. Beyonce ain't going. No. Beyonce ain't leaving her house for nothing.

[Mal]

Joking. But she wasn't nominated at all, right? No, I know. We had talked about this.

[Julian]

Oh, yeah. She got shut out. That's right.

[Damaris]

Tired of I can't P. Said I can't say the word no more. But they tired of y'all. They tired of who she says it.

[Julian]

She says it with the hard.

[Damaris]

With the hard er. And YouTube be about to demonetize us blacker.

[Julian]

No, no, she.

[Mal]

The past few episodes has been using the hard er on the N word, and it's. It's affecting ourselves.

[Rory]

Baby Dem going a little crazy. I ain't noticed that. They were mad at the way she was talking to Julian. They was like, damn, why she talking to Julian like that when cuz I.

[Damaris]

Called him an idiot.

[Rory]

Like, you idiot. That was mean.

[Julian]

She slapped me, too.

[Rory]

See what I'm saying? Slapped him one. We. We got to get to the real mean bean in this mean bean. She's. Yeah, the real mean bean in the pod.

[Mal]

Mean bean casserole.

[Rory]

She's the mean mean bean. Casserole.

[Mal]

You know, they're. They're work husband and wife.

[Damaris]

Exactly.

[Mal]

I think at the top of the year, they were going through their honeymoon and wife like, that I would be.

[Rory]

Like, hey, they need some help.

[Mal]

Top of the year was the honeymoon phase. And I think they're really starting to get to know each other, now that.

[Julian]

I think about it. I think.

[Mal]

And divorce is. Is upon us.

[Julian]

I think Baby D. Framing this narrative that we're work husband and wife just then gave her permission to disrespect me because that's my husband.

[Rory]

Oh, so husbands are supposed to get disrespected.

[Julian]

Like, I can punch him. That's my man.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

I just think the honeymoon phase is over.

[Julian]

No, that I'm cutting you off.

[Rory]

That's what a toxic relationship is.

[Julian]

Bringing food and said, I made the best. Fill in the blank.

[Mal]

You used to bring us rasta pasta. And that didn't happen.

[Damaris]

Okay. But I also. When I bring food in, I immediately give Julian food. That doesn't happen. That doesn't happen, Julian.

[Rory]

Yeah, but you know what else happens?

[Damaris]

I didn't bring cupcakes in for your birthday.

[Julian]

I don't happen to have cupcakes.

[Damaris]

No, I bought cupcakes in for your birthday.

[Rory]

But that's not. But that doesn't change the problem. That's like, if he cheat on you and didn't buy you a Chanel bag.

[Mal]

Mm.

[Julian]

Which I have.

[Mal]

I don't think you're looking at the actual factor in this entire thing. I forgot oh, boy's name. That didn't work out. But then we went to rel. Throughout that entire time, they were a happy couple. And then Peaches showed up and put them in turmoil.

[Julian]

I'm whispering bullshit.

[Mal]

I watched them kiki with each other. Cause I have the perfect angle of Peej and Damaris Wayne. They be whispering to each other all fucking episodes.

[Rory]

Okay, so then I could understand if that would. If that was. If that was the case, then I can understand if Julian was talking to Damaris crazy because he's a little jealous.

[Julian]

Nah.

[Rory]

But Damaris is flirting in front of her work husband and still talking to her work husband like he's the one flirting with somebody else.

[Mal]

But you don't know the flash pee get off in her ear. Like, yo, you. You really with that. Like, I think she has. I think he is feeding her information that has her looking at Julian a little different. She feels like she can disrespect him.

[Damaris]

Pee tells me little jokes. Like, if y'all ever hear me just giggling and y'all be talking about serious shit. It's. Cause Pee just like. Like telling me little jokes. It's kind of how, like, George Bush hands Michelle Obama candy every time he sees it. It's completely innocent.

[Rory]

Listen, Julian, I know you don't know about too many black movies, but I'm gonna give you one of the greatest lines. One of the greatest black movies ever.

[Damaris]

Yo, what the fuck?

[Rory]

Beep.

[Mal]

And we're back. And we are back. We had some technical difficulties. Mal was about to say a line, but we've moved on.

[Rory]

That's the Color Purple.

[Mal]

Well, no, no, don't add context. Don't add cont. Context.

[Julian]

No, leave that. That's funny.

[Rory]

Oh, man, PE Is gonna make fun of that.

[Mal]

Also, Peach be telling her when her titties popping out, like there's a whole thing going on over here.

[Julian]

PE Stares at her titties on the monitor all the.

[Rory]

For sure her titties pop out. Pee is the one that has them.

[Julian]

On camera and has to edit it.

[Rory]

And has to edit it. Yeah, we. We never see it, but Peach has all the files and.

[Mal]

Okay, these cameras can be on us, but that one right there, I get it.

[Julian]

It's literally just Damaris's tit half the time.

[Rory]

But this. So Damaris is the mean being in the pod, are they?

[Mal]

The pod?

[Rory]

No, this is the pod.

[Mal]

No, I'm saying. But the three of them.

[Damaris]

No, is this the three P's in the pod? You guys are missing his little jokey joke.

[Mal]

Well, it's not even a joke. I'm saying, I think there's a love triangle here between the three of them.

[Julian]

It's not a love triangle.

[Mal]

That's the pod I'm talking about.

[Rory]

It's this triangle, and then it's like the Phil Jackson triangle.

[Damaris]

He's sure he's talking about out of the whole entire pod. Rory is definitely the meat penis.

[Mal]

Let's just be like, what? Rory?

[Damaris]

You don't think you're the best person on this pod?

[Rory]

Look how fast they turn on you.

[Mal]

Just because I.

[Rory]

Now you know how Drake feel, right?

[Mal]

Your deep, dark secret of your affair with Peej.

[Rory]

Now you know how Drake.

[Mal]

Now all of a sudden, I'm mean.

[Rory]

Yeah, that's how Drake feel.

[Mal]

Who have I been mean to?

[Damaris]

Rory, you are. I don't mean, like, cruel, but you can be a little mean sometimes.

[Mal]

Like to y'all or to.

[Julian]

Sounds like another fan poll opportunity. Who's the meanest?

[Rory]

Who's the meanest?

[Mal]

Who's the meanest is showing up?

[Julian]

Definitely not me.

[Mal]

You're an asshole.

[Julian]

What are you mean? I can be an asshole. I'm not mean.

[Rory]

Assholes. I mean, that's a different thing.

[Mal]

You're very.

[Julian]

First of all, clear the room. We're all assholes. So that's the baseline.

[Mal]

Whoa.

[Julian]

We're all. Excuse me.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Thank you.

[Julian]

I'm not mean.

[Rory]

Okay. Excuse me. Okay.

[Damaris]

Literally every time, before I can even pronounce the word wrong, Julian is giggling about the nut on himself because I was about to say a word wrong.

[Mal]

And almost nut gonna come.

[Damaris]

That's the.

[Mal]

He.

[Damaris]

It's so annoying.

[Julian]

Don't.

[Rory]

No, don't come.

[Julian]

Do not come.

[Damaris]

Do not come.

[Mal]

Do not come.

[Rory]

Oh, man, Shabuzi. They. They closed your ass out, didn't they? Thought you gonna have your cool little moment on that CMA stage. No, sir.

[Julian]

I think they made him perform at this ceremony. That's some.

[Mal]

So did he win any awards or just lost that one?

[Julian]

He didn't win any.

[Mal]

Jesus.

[Rory]

Damn, man. Shabuzi, they did. You crazy. It's all right, though. Great record, great song.

[Julian]

I don't know. I kind of like that the country music just still doesn't. They still just play in to, like, we don't care. Yeah.

[Rory]

Like, we're white and it's our music. That's the funny part. That's the craziest part about it. It's our music.

[Damaris]

Did Morgan Black music. Did Morgan Wallen still like the blackest music?

[Rory]

The blackest music ever is country music.

[Damaris]

Morgan Wallen be making the most racist songs.

[Julian]

He won. Oh, Entertainer of the Year.

[Damaris]

Of course he did.

[Mal]

Crazy.

[Damaris]

He be like, she had blonde eyes. Blue, like, blue hair, blonde eyes. Some shit like that. He'll just like, make the. He'll just describe the whitest woman in the whitest situation, and just like. Like, he's in a rap song. Damn near. It's like country rap. And he's like, yeah, but this ain't for y'all. Respectfully, but yeah.

[Mal]

Sorry, Shaboozy.

[Damaris]

Come to the BT Awards, we give you something.

[Rory]

Actually, no, that's like an insult.

[Mal]

Why is that an insult? Shaboozi can't do the BT Awards.

[Rory]

Oh, the bt. I thought you meant the BT Hip Hop Awards.

[Julian]

No.

[Mal]

Oh, well. Oh, yeah, that's right.

[Damaris]

Oh, yeah.

[Julian]

Oh, that's cool.

[Rory]

The BET Awards happened already.

[Mal]

Yeah, they hit the weird. It was the weirdest ones.

[Julian]

We all did wars.

[Damaris]

Remember you were talking about they had Glorilla up there and he was like.

[Mal]

They didn't even promote it.

[Rory]

They could. I mean, let's just be honest. The bt. The Hip Hop Awards can go.

[Damaris]

It sucks because that used to be my favorite awards, like, I love.

[Rory]

Yeah. But that's. Yeah, I got a lot of used to be favorites that I just no longer even think about anymore. And the Hip Hop Awards is up there.

[Mal]

Some. Some fragile favorites that.

[Rory]

Fragile. Fragile awards. ET Hip Hop Awards is a fragile.

[Mal]

That's what sucks, though, because it was by far my favorite. The ciphers were what everyone were looking forward to.

[Rory]

Yeah, but we can use.

[Mal]

YouTube is still so important right now. So I don't understand why you can't put all the ciphers on YouTube. You'll monetize there and get your money back.

[Rory]

All right, so how about we give bt. How about we give BT a present? BT just drop a cipher every week. How about that?

[Mal]

Every week?

[Damaris]

Not every week, no.

[Rory]

Why not? One week.

[Damaris]

Not enough rappers.

[Mal]

Yeah, Simba only has so many raps. Like, there's only so many rappers.

[Julian]

There's only one comm.

[Rory]

It's a lot there. A lot. Oh, it's a lot of rappers. It's a lot of rappers. A lot of them ain't good, but it's a lot of rappers. We could find three or four to throw on a bet Cipher every week and just drop it like a commercial, a sprite.

[Julian]

Let's shoot a cipher once a month.

[Damaris]

Yeah, let's do that for us.

[Julian]

We shoot a cipher. We did like a skit. No, like.

[Mal]

Oh, but like, not. Not mine. Right?

[Julian]

That wasn't a cipher. That was just.

[Mal]

That was from a cipher.

[Damaris]

It was just you, though. There was no. You'd never passed the weed.

[Mal]

Eminem. Eminem had six killer rappers behind him and not one of them spit a bar.

[Rory]

And some great rappers standing behind him.

[Mal]

He had Roy to 59 right behind him.

[Julian]

You know what I'm saying?

[Rory]

He had Conway.

[Julian]

We could go.

[Mal]

He had Westside Boogie right next to him, not a bar.

[Julian]

We could go back to that same garage and shoot that. I would love to shoot a cipher with all of us.

[Damaris]

You got bars or, like, again, I'll write some shit. It sound like you got them.

[Julian]

I'm a writer. We know that.

[Mal]

Some spoke, some spoken word.

[Rory]

Yo, y be letting Julia.

[Julian]

I'll bring the bongo.

[Rory]

I'm a writer.

[Mal]

Definitely make sure they drop the beat. It has to be Acapella 3000 the out of it.

[Julian]

I switch the beat up. Got something.

[Rory]

Julia said I'm a writer.

[Mal]

Y'all know that with so much confidence.

[Julian]

I don't sound like that.

[Mal]

Well, that's how he came in the.

[Rory]

Game, if you remember.

[Mal]

Right?

[Rory]

Yeah, he came in the game.

[Mal]

I'm coming.

[Rory]

I'm gonna.

[Julian]

All right, whatever.

[Mal]

Speaking of, I'm always down to do a rap. Cypher.

[Rory]

Oh, man.

[Mal]

I'm here to rap.

[Julian]

Lizzo Scissor Kai react.

[Damaris]

That's Lizzo.

[Mal]

Ozempic is crazy.

[Damaris]

Why? Everybody's not our O.

[Mal]

Yes, they are.

[Julian]

Yes, she is.

[Damaris]

I hate.

[Mal]

No, it's an actual fact that everyone is on.

[Damaris]

But every time somebody lose weight, y'all like, oh, it's also not.

[Julian]

That's also not an issue. Like, that's fine.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

But it's like some people are actually working really hard to.

[Mal]

Oh, I think you can. Working hard can go hand in hand.

[Rory]

Yeah, it's like steroids are working out.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Julian]

Yeah, that's right.

[Mal]

It's the reason why all the chicks that get BBLs are still in the gym. They gotta maintain it.

[Rory]

You ain't even thinking about that.

[Damaris]

Nah, nah.

[Mal]

You don't think Lizzo has taken Ozempic? Like, you're gonna. You're gonna look at me in my eyes right now.

[Damaris]

I don't think that Lizzo has. I don't. I don't know, but I'm.

[Rory]

What?

[Damaris]

I'm. How's this? I don't know.

[Rory]

He said think heinous.

[Damaris]

I don't.

[Rory]

Okay.

[Damaris]

I don't. I really don't know. I haven't thought about it.

[Rory]

Do you think she did?

[Mal]

Let's think about it now.

[Damaris]

Possible for. People have been dropping hundreds of pounds before baby.

[Rory]

D. Do you think there's a possibility?

[Mal]

There's.

[Damaris]

Of course there's always a possibility.

[Rory]

That's it now. All right, continue.

[Damaris]

But I just don't like attributed guys.

[Julian]

She said, I tried OIC and it didn't work for me.

[Rory]

Okay, fair. She tried it.

[Damaris]

So I went on. No, she said she went on something else which did the trick and I lost the weight. So she's saying that she did go on something that helped her lose the.

[Mal]

Which, by the way, I think. And this is not a Lizzo spite. I think people that were in her weight class actually need O. I think OIC is important.

[Rory]

What is she a welterweight in her weight in her weight class?

[Mal]

I was trying to find a respectful way to say it, and it came out disrespectful.

[Rory]

What is she a lightweight? A light heavy now, is she a light heavy?

[Julian]

So she's a featherweight. Manjaro and Ozempic are. They're different weight loss drugs. So they're more or less the Same.

[Mal]

Ozempic was originally for type 2 diabetes, which is usually people that are scarily overweight and it affects their health and their organs. So they need Ozempic. I think Ozempic is great for people that actually need it. Not you bitches that can't afford coke anymore and are already just £160. That's the crazy shit. I think Lizzo should take Ozempic for health reasons.

[Damaris]

Yeah, no, for sure. And it's not even just an Ozempic thing. I've just been seeing that thrown out that anytime somebody loses weight, they're on Ozempic. They're on Ozempic. I've been getting mad Ozempic accusations. I'm not on fucking Ozempics. Like, it's just.

[Rory]

I think you want Ozempic.

[Mal]

Yeah, that's. Bro, that's wild.

[Rory]

That's just stupid. That's just.

[Mal]

Where does one even cop Oz Epic.

[Rory]

No, that's not. That's easy. I'm just saying you got it for the low. Yeah, that ain't the problem. I'm saying that anybody thinks Baby D is on Olympic is.

[Damaris]

I have been accused of taking.

[Rory]

She was never that big to begin with. And she's not like skinny with a big bobblehead right now. So why would you think she's on.

[Julian]

She looked like Al Roker after he lost all that weight.

[Rory]

She was like Al Sharpton. Taking a self transformation was crazy.

[Damaris]

So funny.

[Julian]

Well, Roker was still. When he.

[Rory]

Don't do that. Cuz. Al Roker is sick. We can't make fun. Don't do that.

[Mal]

True.

[Julian]

All right, but. All right. Come on.

[Rory]

He's sick.

[Mal]

It was just funny. It was just funny that he would end every segment with your neck of the woods. And his neck looked crazy.

[Rory]

Guys look like the woods. Guys. He's the legendary Al Roer is sick.

[Julian]

What does he have?

[Rory]

Cannot make. He has diabetes.

[Julian]

That's not that.

[Damaris]

So those.

[Mal]

Y'all don't pray for My mom.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

What?

[Julian]

My dad got diabetes.

[Damaris]

My mom also has diabetes.

[Julian]

That cool as hell.

[Rory]

Yeah, but some people. Diabetes. Wait, I think he does. I don't know.

[Mal]

I mean, unless they're having a low blood sugar, it doesn't really change their personality.

[Julian]

Like Snickers.

[Mal]

Like. No, my dad. He mad cool. Like. He's just a cool guy who gives when you got diabetes. But you a cool guy.

[Damaris]

Yo.

[Julian]

He's just a chill guy, yo.

[Damaris]

That is so funny.

[Rory]

All right.

[Damaris]

For real, y'all.

[Mal]

Prayers to Albert. Marriage staple of my childhood.

[Damaris]

Okay. Sorry. Get Wilson out Roker.

[Julian]

Yeah, true.

[Mal]

Get well soon. You can't cure diabetes. Like, well, I guess you could get a new pancreas. Yeah, I'm sorry. You can kind of cure it.

[Damaris]

A pancreas transplant.

[Mal]

Just do the.

[Damaris]

What's the.

[Mal]

But that list is long to get on. All right, what are we talking about? Sza and Lizzo both look incredible. I didn't watch the whole thing. Admittedly, I don't have much to give on this topic, but I know they're close friends, so I'm sure it was a fun, fun stream. Don't they, like. Didn't they, like, live together at one point?

[Julian]

Who?

[Mal]

Lizzo and Scissor. Really good friends.

[Damaris]

Yeah, they're really good friends.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

So I'm sure they look like they're mad fun together.

[Julian]

They should do something together.

[Mal]

I'm sure it was hilarious.

[Damaris]

Is that them on the stream?

[Julian]

Yeah, this is them in the kitchen. It was funny. So at one point, the. I was gonna say the girls, Lizzo and Scissor went into the kitchen while Kai was still upstairs, and Lizzo's, you know, paying attention to the stream, and she was like, how does he wash his balls? Like, is he clean or is he dirty? Because every time he showers, he's in a bathing suit. Does he. So does he really get in there and, like, clean? And Sizza's like, how do you know that? She goes, girl, he's streaming the whole thing. Like, you could see him in a bathing suit. It's, like, really funny. They're dynamic.

[Mal]

That was a weird conversation that Kia and I had. I did not know that Scissor brought that up. We were watching Kai when he was. Had the bathing suit on, and they were doing some other. And we were both like, his ass and balls must stink.

[Julian]

Oh, here it is. This is very.

[Mal]

There's no way the bathing suit allows you to.

[Rory]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Damaris]

Well, he hasn't washed his balls in a long time.

[Rory]

Who said that? He said that.

[Damaris]

Is that true? Wait, what?

[Rory]

I don't know.

[Mal]

Well, he's been shot.

[Damaris]

You see them showering here? He's been showering with the trunks on.

[Rory]

That's what they said.

[Damaris]

They say he showers every day with the swim trunks. Oh, that's my first question on Stream.

[Mal]

It's been 23 days. No, but maybe Kai has to be exhausted.

[Damaris]

His beat's been dry for 23 days.

[Mal]

I don't believe it.

[Damaris]

He seems like they're funny as hell.

[Mal]

Well, yeah, I'm sure that was fun with them on there. I just haven't had time to stop and where's Lizzo from?

[Damaris]

So have you. You haven't been watching the stream? Like, do you guys ever just pull it up and watch?

[Mal]

I watched a bunch of clips, but I didn't watch. This is a and Lizza one. And I've watched like full segments. Not. I guess that's a clip when it's a 30 day stream. But I've watched like hour blocks of clips.

[Rory]

I've never seen a single stream from anybody. I've seen clips, but y'all know how I feel about Kai. Love Kai. Bronx legend. Support him. Just don't watch his stream. Well, I don't. I'm not saying don't watch his stream. I don't watch the stream. But I love what he's doing. I think he's super dope, super unique. His energy is great. He's a. I don't know how anybody can not like Kai. He's like a lovable person. So shout out to Kai, man and.

[Mal]

Lizzo and Scissor and Scissor.

[Rory]

Love you, Scissor. Love you, Scissor.

[Mal]

Love you and love you, Lizzo. I hope that didn't come across the weight class part. I was really just trying to make a point that Ozempic is actually important for Lizzo.

[Damaris]

We love you, Lizzo.

[Rory]

Gonna be fine. See y'all gonna be on fine. She's always been pretty, but now was she. If, if that. If Lizzo pop out with that small waist and them thighs and that ass sitting. All right, now I want to see all you niggas all of a sudden at the Lizzo show to my Lizzo in New York tonight. You love to go to a show, but why not? Yeah, because that's all.

[Mal]

You can fire the rest of your team. If you want to take us to the strip club, we will not press charges.

[Rory]

I will not complain.

[Mal]

If you force a stripper on my face. You will hear not a peep from me.

[Rory]

Nobody.

[Mal]

I will hold it down.

[Rory]

Nobody will.

[Damaris]

Dang.

[Julian]

They really try to get her out. The pain for that, man. Shut up.

[Rory]

People. They try to get people out there. Pain for everything. People are just.

[Mal]

We. I mean, we kind of did too.

[Julian]

Fucking a list artist.

[Rory]

No, we didn't.

[Damaris]

No, you did.

[Mal]

Rory. I had an understanding of why you shouldn't bring certain.

[Rory]

Nah, man, cut it out, man. Because you one of them too. Sometimes you fall into that part of the social media world.

[Damaris]

Ooh, Ooh.

[Rory]

Where you started graying with bullshit.

[Damaris]

Ooh.

[Rory]

You know that was bullshit.

[Mal]

Wait, wait, wait, wait.

[Rory]

All right.

[Mal]

So you think it's bullshit that if you have a full staff of people to not fully understand every member of your staff and think, this is the person I should not bring to the motherfucking strip club. That is a rat. That is somebody. There's no fucking way this person can do that.

[Rory]

They were saying that they were forced to go to the strip club. No grown person can be forced to do anything. Cut it out with that shit.

[Julian]

And they said I was forced to.

[Rory]

Go to a strip club. Shut the fuck up.

[Julian]

She weight shit.

[Mal]

And I'm saying there's people that. Especially on staff. Of the magnitude of her touring of that, like, nerdy girl over there. You should not bring her in, the Sprinter to take her to the strip club. Because that's the person that's probably going to say, I was forced to go to the strip club.

[Rory]

Yeah, but that's what I was speaking.

[Mal]

You should make a separate group chat with the freaks that you know are on your dance team and do that shit.

[Damaris]

And then you get in trouble for that. I was separated. I was isolated, and they made me feel weird, and I was discriminated.

[Mal]

The call sheet. We doing our own personal shit. If you want to go do something, go do something.

[Julian]

That's kind of. It's not to the same extent, but. Remember the Ice Spice tour inside incident where the girl that she brought on tour was.

[Mal]

That's bad management.

[Rory]

Cleo Trapper is her name.

[Julian]

Sorry.

[Mal]

That's bad management. Producer of that Bronx, right? I don't know.

[Rory]

Another Bronx legend.

[Mal]

I. I said I don't know.

[Rory]

If she ain't. She from the Bronx today, God damn it.

[Mal]

And she's a legend. If she's from.

[Rory]

Only if she's from the Bronx, she's a legend.

[Mal]

That wasn't isolating. That was mismanagement. Where a producer of that whole tour was not aware that he or she had to feed Cleopatra. Cause she didn't even know she was on the fucking tour.

[Rory]

Cleo Trapper.

[Mal]

I mean, I was Bronx legend. I was using her government name.

[Rory]

It's not her government name. Yeah, but I always felt that was bullshit. Yo, she forced us to go to the Strip. Shut the fuck up.

[Mal]

I agree with Shut the fuck up on that. But you should still know people you should or should not bring around.

[Rory]

Man, ain't nobody forcing no grown person to do shit. Let's stop the Bullshit. Going into 2025.

[Julian]

Yeah, Diddy did a lot of that.

[Rory]

You grown. Ain't nobody forced you to do nothing.

[Damaris]

Okay, well, outside of sexual assault.

[Rory]

Well, that's why it's called sexual assault.

[Julian]

Yeah, but that's forced.

[Damaris]

That's forcing somebody to do something.

[Rory]

Yeah, but that's going to the strip club.

[Mal]

Like when we were in. When we were in Atlanta, after the show, we went to a function. Wasn't a strip club by any means, but we were with Peej and Yoms. I know both of them are with the shits. Like, I just know both of them are always with the shits. If there's somebody that we don't even really know and, like, they just have weird energy, we're not bringing them out.

[Julian]

How many Bud Lights you throw back?

[Rory]

Yeah, but what I'm saying, I'm speaking to somebody then saying, I was forced.

[Mal]

To go because that person is the person that says, I was forced to do some shit when they wasn't even forced. You got in that fucking sprinter. But you're weird. We don't know you, so we shouldn't bring you.

[Rory]

No, no, I'm just speaking to people saying, yeah, no, you can't. She did forced him to go. Shut the fuck up.

[Mal]

I don't think she forced.

[Rory]

I think it was just that grown person walked right in the strip club and wasn't nobody dragging her her. Wasn't nobody drugging her. Wasn't nobody. She walked right in there and now that she's no longer getting that check for working with Lizzo, now they want to scream, oh, I was forced to go to a strip club. Sexual shut the up is disrespectful to people that really deal with sexual assault. Cut it up.

[Mal]

Oh, I agree. I don't even think they're in the same category of forcing someone to go to a strip club.

[Rory]

They tried to make it that. They tried.

[Mal]

That's insane.

[Rory]

They tried to make it that peach.

[Mal]

Did you feel forced over this weekend?

[Rory]

Okay, I was about to say I was forced to watch a magic show in the hotel. Hotel.

[Damaris]

So what is going on? What happened with Peej in a magic show? What happened?

[Mal]

Okay, so we.

[Rory]

He did the transfer hand trick. He had. He put a first. He was asking for a quarter.

[Mal]

He was like, yo, look at you splashing it. Like, you don't know. That could have been magic.

[Rory]

I'm sorry, go ahead. I'm not giving it away. I'm just saying he did the transfer, the transfer of a coin from one hand to another. He started out with his right hand. Everybody look at the coin. It was in his right hand. And then Pease goes like this, right? And he's like, no, he goes which hand is it in? Right? I'm sitting there high and I'm laughing. Cause I'm like, it can only be in the opposite hand. Now, the real magic. The real magic would've been if Peach said, check your pocket. That would've been. Then I would've went upstairs and said, he's a fucking sorcerer.

[Mal]

I have to defend Peach here because you went with the utmost confidence that it was the other hand. And then Peach went like this. And then the whole hotel lobby was like, oh. And then we looked over. It was in the original hand.

[Rory]

No, it was not. It was in the opposite hand.

[Damaris]

Y'all keep saying the whole hotel lobby and then just saying it was just y'all and yo, something ain't making sense.

[Rory]

What you mean? It was me. It was me. It was my boy Bobby.

[Damaris]

Okay?

[Rory]

It was Rory, it was Peege, it was Yomi, and it was two of my homegirls, seven of us.

[Damaris]

Okay? So it was all right. Y'all had people there.

[Rory]

Yeah, I had two of my homegirls with me. Yeah.

[Mal]

And we looked like the General because there was the hotel bar, me, Peach.

[Rory]

The only other people in the entire big ass lobby was the people at the front desk. We was the only ones in the.

[Mal]

Me, Peach, and yoms got to the hotel and we're like, let's try to catch the bar. And they're like, we're closing, but, you know, we'll pour you out like, last call. And then Maul and all his people were coming. So we're like, all right, we have to get. Like, can I get a bottle or just something that we could take? They're like, we can't do that. So they just started filling plastic cups with full bottles of tequila. And then gave Peej instead of a six back. Gave him six beers and a tray. Yeah, so. So, Pete, we don't need all of this alcohol.

[Rory]

Put them in a plastic bag, slamming.

[Julian]

Bud Lights, doing magic tricks, asking for nickels.

[Mal]

Shorty. Shorty asked for playing cards from my.

[Rory]

Homegirl, went and bought playing cards from the front desk, said, oh, they're going to charge somebody's room $7. I said, if you don't charge the room and just get the cars. She came back seven out.

[Mal]

She came back without them and was like, they gonna charge the. The room $7. And me and Mar was like, see, if you get him down to five, then we'll think about it.

[Rory]

7. Get the cards, man.

[Mal]

Then. Then me and her argued about Harry Potter for the next hour.

[Rory]

Oh, my God.

[Mal]

And then I Went to sleep.

[Rory]

Fun time.

[Mal]

We had a screaming match about Harry Potter.

[Rory]

Fun time.

[Damaris]

And I knew you were wrong the entire time.

[Mal]

It's the same argument we've had. Harry is a piece of that ruins everyone's lives around him. He's the problem.

[Damaris]

You projecting? Yeah.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Mal]

And I'm mean, you are a little bit victim.

[Damaris]

What it was wasn't nice. Well, maybe I'm the problem. I don't know. I'm sorry that.

[Mal]

Well, it wasn't nice.

[Damaris]

Okay, but there's not just mean and nice. Like, there's not just black and white, there's gray.

[Mal]

Wait, I was talking about a fictional character that doesn't exist. You turned around and said you're projecting because you are him. I wasn't being mean to anyone. Harry Potter's not real. No one was offended in that situation.

[Damaris]

Okay. Okay. Well, I'm. I'm sorry. No, no, genuinely.

[Mal]

No, you're not. I am. You're not. Sorry. That's a mole. Sorry.

[Damaris]

Well, I might. I might not have the self awareness like we talked about. Self awareness. Maybe. I don't know that I'm being mean. So if that is mean, I. I'm sorry.

[Mal]

I had said that Harry is a piece of shit that ruins everyone's lives. He is the problem. He. Anything around him falls because he puts himself into it.

[Julian]

True.

[Mal]

You then said, yeah, that's you.

[Damaris]

I didn't say that. I said, that's just you projecting. That's what I said. I said, that's you projecting.

[Rory]

Projecting who he is as a person.

[Mal]

Yeah, that's.

[Damaris]

Well, no, that could have been him projecting his own feelings and trauma onto Harry. I didn't say that.

[Julian]

That's Harry. Sorry.

[Rory]

Go ahead, baby. Did tell him. Shut the fuck up. You want to say it?

[Damaris]

No, I don't want to be mean anymore.

[Mal]

She's a chill girl.

[Rory]

See, that's bullshit. You just don't want to be mean, but you want to say it.

[Damaris]

I was working on being better.

[Julian]

It smell like gas in here, Harry.

[Rory]

Who has the lighter?

[Mal]

All right, so define projecting then. What was I doing?

[Damaris]

Well, projecting can be like. You interpret something this way because of your own trauma. So you. You might watch a story and somebody else might watch a story and what you think is going on is different because you've experienced something different than somebody else. That's why I said you're the only person I've ever seen say that about Harry. So I'm just thinking, being that you're going against the grain in the majority, that you're probably Just projecting your own traumas and feelings about maybe yourself or your own.

[Mal]

So am I, Ron? Am I Hermione? Am I all the dead bodies that are. Excuse me.

[Julian]

I have a projector.

[Mal]

Yo, these autistic outbreaks, you're like, for the Knicks.

[Julian]

The Knicks. It's nice. It's like, on a whole wall.

[Rory]

Yeah, but what time do you take your meds? Like, how do you keep that under control?

[Julian]

I don't think I'd be good if I were on meds.

[Mal]

Maybe should look into it.

[Damaris]

Yeah, maybe.

[Julian]

Well, what would I even take?

[Mal]

That's why you go to a doctor.

[Rory]

Klonopin. I don't know, really.

[Julian]

Like, I don't think. I probably would. Wouldn't be routine enough. I probably wouldn't take it. It would be bad because I would, like. It would be off.

[Mal]

You'd be able to, like, break it up and snort it. If that was a more familiar way.

[Julian]

That's asshole.

[Mal]

You'd be consistent with it, at least.

[Julian]

Is what I'm saying. You're Harry. Whatever. She said projector. You're a fucking projector.

[Rory]

Oh, man. Do we have voicemails?

[Julian]

Yeah, we do.

[Mal]

You've got mail.

[Rory]

Yo, what's going on, y'all? My name is D, from upstate New York.

[Julian]

315. I'd ask y'all a question about this.

[Mal]

You know the Voice society I've been dealing with.

[Rory]

Listen, this is you post op, gang shit.

[Mal]

315, you eyes lit. You know his voice.

[Damaris]

He said, this is you post op. It's so funny. Go ahead, man.

[Rory]

Kind of how y'all would manage it if you were me?

[Julian]

A little background.

[Rory]

I'm 27 years old. I've always dealt with some light level of social anxiety. But for the most part, even, you know, through my teenage years and into my adulthood, I've been a more or less confident person. I've always worked out, take care of myself. My health's good, I dress a certain way, crib's good.

[Julian]

Been in a relationship for 10 years.

[Rory]

Like, life is good.

[Julian]

You know What I'm saying?

[Mal]

17 to 27 is crazy.

[Julian]

But for whatever reason, since we got back from the pandemic, anytime I'm in a social setting, I sweat profusely.

[Rory]

And when I say social setting, I mean if I'm at work, if I'm at the grocery store, if I'm at.

[Julian]

The bar, if I'm doing anything that's.

[Rory]

Not at the house or in a.

[Julian]

Very controlled, comfortable environment, I'm sweating profusely.

[Rory]

And it's like I've been in all different circumstances in life. I've fought different people, I've dealt.

[Mal]

What does he keep giving us his.

[Julian]

Resume about sweat clips. He said if it's a social setting and said if I go to the grocery store, if I go to work, just life. You sweat a lot.

[Mal]

I just don't understand the resume of like, I've been in a 10 year relationship. I got money, I know how to fight.

[Julian]

Like you said, I dress a certain way. What does that even mean?

[Mal]

I think he said he dressed well.

[Damaris]

He's saying he too. He too real. He too fly of a to be musty. That's what I'm hearing.

[Mal]

It sounds like dermatologist. Do you have to go to for that? What would have to be your sweat glands?

[Damaris]

Well, let him finish. Let's see.

[Julian]

About to give us his whole system.

[Rory]

And pretty women that like, I've been in all circumstances in life and this is an issue I didn't have until.

[Julian]

I was 24, 25.

[Rory]

And it's like ruining my life to where, like, if I don't have to leave my house, I'm not going to leave my house because I know I'm going to look crazy. I'm gonna be fucking cold as fuck. Cause I'm damp, I'ma look crazy. Cause I got sweat rings and whatever fucking designer hoodie I got on. So how cool could I look? Like, I don't know.

[Julian]

How would y'all deal with this situation?

[Mal]

Why does the hoodie have to be designer?

[Rory]

How would we deal with it? Go to the doctor.

[Mal]

Yeah, why you calling us?

[Rory]

Go to the doctor and just tell him what you telling us. Like I'm sweating. I don't know why. I mean, did you get.

[Julian]

Yeah. All right.

[Rory]

What? Why y'all? That's a real thing.

[Julian]

Maybe not a side effect.

[Rory]

How do you know that?

[Julian]

Because it's not.

[Mal]

He brings up a good point. I don't know.

[Rory]

How do you know that? You don't know how certain.

[Mal]

Well, Fauci didn't tell me.

[Julian]

Your hormones just change as you get older.

[Rory]

Okay, that could be it too. But also you injecting new things into your body. You have a reaction, you don't know what's causing it.

[Mal]

We got a designer hoodie on though.

[Damaris]

There could be. There could be an underlying issue. If there's not an underlying issue. And they just say that this is how your body is now. You can get both Botox in your underarms to make you stop sweating. If it's like in your back, I would not recommend.

[Rory]

You're supposed to sweat. You're not supposed to stop yourself.

[Julian]

Well, which. It would just make this.

[Rory]

The.

[Julian]

The glands smaller. The sweat glands. It would just shrink them.

[Rory]

Right? I mean, I call a doctor. Sir. Go to the doctor.

[Julian]

They would probably recommend that.

[Mal]

And I. I guess advice from RN. Don't feel insecure about it. It's been three years. You said 24. This started. You're 27 now. You should have went doctor right away.

[Rory]

Pandemic three years ago. Pandemic.

[Mal]

I get the point.

[Rory]

He has a good job. You know, they made him get to go back into the work field.

[Mal]

He gets bitches.

[Julian]

He's had the same girl for like 10 years, right?

[Mal]

He said he's been in every situation. Like he's done everything.

[Damaris]

Yo, he ain't called me in. Like, how you gonna call the pod and like not check in with the resident? Like 315.

[Mal]

So you do know him.

[Damaris]

I don't know him. He's 27. I don't know no male, 27 year olds.

[Rory]

Little brother, you know, male 20, 27 year olds don't do that.

[Damaris]

And not really, no. I had a little sister, so I know a bunch of young girls. Like younger girls that age. My little sister's 27, so I know girls.

[Mal]

That 27 year old man is hilarious. You definitely know what you work in.

[Julian]

Media.

[Damaris]

Not in y'all are. Are y'all missing? Where? I said in Syracuse.

[Rory]

You're being mean.

[Damaris]

You're being mean. I'm trying to keep a level tone when I'm talking to him and they're asking stupid.

[Mal]

That's when women are the meanest.

[Julian]

That's worse.

[Damaris]

I don't know. 27 year old boys and, well, men in Syracuse.

[Mal]

Okay, got you.

[Damaris]

That's what I was.

[Mal]

Is that area code specifically for Syracuse?

[Damaris]

315. Yeah, that's the Syracuse.

[Mal]

Does that cover more than Syracuse?

[Julian]

It does.

[Rory]

Is he from the proper Syracuse area?

[Mal]

Could be.

[Julian]

Utica.

[Mal]

You never thought about it.

[Damaris]

He got to call and check in. You feel me? Like, call it.

[Julian]

He has.

[Mal]

Are you sweating too much?

[Julian]

He has hyperhidrosis. That's what the medical term is. So we suggest him getting the injections as a way to reduce.

[Mal]

Go to a doctor. Don't listen to anything we have to say. Except for go to the doctor.

[Damaris]

Yeah, definitely go to the doctor and explain.

[Mal]

Everything you explain to us outside of saying how much you can fight, how well you dress, how many bitches you get. Just say, hey, I've been sweating profusely for three years.

[Julian]

Do Versace hoodies not have good sweat wicking technology sweat wicking.

[Mal]

I've noticed that the older I've gotten, that's been a big thing for 34 for me.

[Damaris]

You got mustier.

[Mal]

No, I don't smell. I really don't smell that much when I sweat, but I sweat more.

[Julian]

Same. I used to never sweat. I sweat way more now.

[Mal]

Yeah, I sweat a lot.

[Rory]

Are y. What?

[Mal]

Of course I am.

[Rory]

Julian. He got the double booster.

[Julian]

Yep, I took one this morning.

[Mal]

A daily booster is crazy.

[Damaris]

Like a Flintstone.

[Julian]

It's my vitamin C. It says around the age 25.

[Mal]

Well, you've seen my card before. Of course I am.

[Julian]

Of course it seems it says around age 25 is when men's that kind of hormonally can change.

[Rory]

So yeah, I sweat. Like not like this gentleman, but I do notice that like when I'm getting dressed now a guy be like, what the. I just got out the shower. Why am I sweating?

[Mal]

Oh yeah, I sweat out the shower a lot.

[Rory]

Yeah. Is weird.

[Mal]

I got to take cold showers.

[Damaris]

Different places I end.

[Rory]

I end my shower with all cold. All cold water.

[Mal]

That's good.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

You're actually supposed to take cold showers.

[Julian]

Close the pores up. That's what that does too.

[Damaris]

Yeah. Well, pores don't technically open or close, but.

[Rory]

Yeah, neither do doors.

[Damaris]

They can appear smaller or larger, but they don't actually open or close.

[Mal]

So they just like fluctuate.

[Damaris]

Or they can appear smaller or larger, but the skin around it is extending. Yeah, they don't actually open or close.

[Julian]

Because your epidermis is a living organ.

[Mal]

But still more things can get in your pores when they are quote unquote open. When the skin mal you then like, how do you explain.

[Damaris]

So things can always get in your pores. It's not like there's more. You're more likely to get something in your pores at a certain because it's open or closed. Like, things can always get in your pores no matter what.

[Mal]

Got you.

[Julian]

Yeah, it's like your skin's making it wink.

[Mal]

Got it. But I feel like if I put like a bunch of coconut oil on my face, it'll just close up.

[Rory]

You shouldn't do that.

[Mal]

I know you should.

[Rory]

You definitely should never do that. Please don't do that.

[Julian]

That's the worst you could put, but then aren't.

[Mal]

When I was younger, I did that and a girl told me I wasn't in high school. I was probably junior high. I was putting coconut oil on my face. And she's like, what the fuck are you doing? That's awful.

[Damaris]

That's so bad.

[Rory]

That is crazy.

[Mal]

So your pores.

[Damaris]

So when we say open, when people say open or closed, they mean, like, if your pores appear big and then suddenly they don't. They say, oh, your. Your pores are closed. No, but your pores can be clogged. That's different from opening.

[Mal]

That's what that young lady was telling me. Like, you're putting coconut oil on your face. You closing or clogging every single pore that you have?

[Julian]

Clogging your pores is usually with oil. Natural face oils, not coconut oil like Rory was doing.

[Damaris]

But you can't clog it with.

[Mal]

You shouldn't put oils too. Oiled slabs of coconut oil on your.

[Julian]

Dirt in, like, dead skin cells are what commonly.

[Mal]

I still put a little coconut oil in my hair every now and then, though.

[Rory]

I can't do it.

[Mal]

Yeah, well, we have the same hair.

[Rory]

I'm allergic to that.

[Mal]

Come on. No. Matter of fact, we're punching back in peach. Wasn't recorded. Maul. What type of soap do you use.

[Rory]

For my body or face?

[Mal]

Body.

[Rory]

I use regular. I use regular Dove.

[Mal]

Okay. Yeah, I'm back on Dove. I did years with Irish. The doctor.

[Julian]

Dr. Bronner.

[Mal]

Dr. Bronner. But then I started, like, I don't want to on Dr. Bronner's, but I started to feel weird. Like, the. I could clean my floor with. I don't know if I should be cleaning my body with.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

So I think I just need a break from Dr. Bronner's. I went back to Dove.

[Rory]

Yeah. I'm just Dove love Unscented body wash. Yeah.

[Mal]

Loofah guy. Rag guy. What do you.

[Rory]

I got the little sponge ball things.

[Mal]

Nice.

[Rory]

Yeah, I got that. Then I have the little. The little pad for your face. The facial exfoliation. Yeah, I got all that.

[Mal]

Has anyone been getting these IG ads of, like, the exfoliating thing you can add to your shower and the ad is just people rubbing their back like this?

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

It looks so sick.

[Rory]

Yeah. That's crazy. Just get the old school loofah with the hand putting something on your wall and just, like, gyrating in the shower is just like.

[Damaris]

I don't know. I kind of like the idea.

[Rory]

It's weird.

[Mal]

The ads look nuts.

[Damaris]

I'll check it out.

[Mal]

But there's a few different Sephora brands I use for face wash in the shower. But I've been on the rose shit lately for face moisturizer. That's Been great. Not that type of rose, though. That would probably really push in some of that moisturizer. If you put a rose on your.

[Rory]

Face, I want to get, like, one of them jade rollers.

[Mal]

Yeah, those are great.

[Rory]

Put it in the fridge, get it cold, keep it in the fridge.

[Mal]

You don't do that.

[Julian]

Really nice.

[Damaris]

I keep it in the freezer.

[Rory]

Yeah. I don't do that. I've never used.

[Damaris]

Or you can get the ice thing where you pour, like, filtered, obviously, water into it and let it freeze. And then, like, you ice roll on your face.

[Rory]

Yeah, yeah.

[Damaris]

That also minimizes the appearance of pores and also helps with redness and swollenness. Like in your eyes are swollen. When you wake up. It helps.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

My skincare routine is very simple. Honestly, I don't really do too much.

[Mal]

I've been doing cold water facials for probably the past few months, like three times a week. Just a bowl of ice water. 30 seconds, if you can last come back up.

[Damaris]

30 seconds is a long time.

[Mal]

Oh, yes. The fuck it is.

[Julian]

You'd be trying to ground yourself. Yeah, yeah.

[Rory]

When you have a two year old, you can come up out of that water and your two year old, she done got into all kind of shit. My face was in the bowl for 30 seconds.

[Mal]

Yo, I took. I took the trash out just outside the door. Not even, like, out.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

And I turned around. This was yesterday. Yesterday, Amara had taken out of two tissue boxes, every single tissue and ripped all of them up between the time I went to just put trash outside the door.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

And back in. Yeah.

[Rory]

That's how you do it.

[Mal]

So while I'm drowning myself, Amara's getting into.

[Rory]

She's gonna have a great time.

[Mal]

But cold watering your face is very important.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Julian]

All right, ready? Let's do another.

[Mal]

Hey, what's up, y'all? My name is Brandon. I'm from San Antonio, Texas. Texas. So I just had a question for y'all. I just want to know, have you ever had that. That time in your life where, you know, you met somebody and y'all had that, you know, that real deep connection, that bond with. And, like, everything was just great, but it just didn't work out because of, like, a right person, wrong time type situation? Just want to know yalls thoughts on that. And I just wanted to thank you all as well for, I mean, all yalls hard work and everything y'all do to keep that pod going. It's definitely something I look forward to every Tuesday and Friday. We appreciate it. You know, y'all inspire a lot More people than y'all realize, so thank you for that. Oh, thanks, man.

[Rory]

Brandon, thank you, man. That was such a sweet, sweet, sweet voicemail. Brandon, thank you very much for that.

[Mal]

If we ever end up in San Antonio, drinks on us, man. You seem like someone that hasn't had a drink yet.

[Rory]

Yeah, he seems. Sounds a little young, right?

[Mal]

He sounds nice.

[Rory]

Yeah. Thank you.

[Mal]

Don't corrupt you out in that city.

[Rory]

What was Brandon asking? I'm sorry.

[Julian]

Something Baby D could definitely take away. He said, when you have something with someone, but it just doesn't work out because the timing isn't right.

[Damaris]

Right person, wrong time.

[Rory]

Right person, wrong time. That's a real thing.

[Julian]

She hurt.

[Rory]

That's a real thing. Right person, wrong time is a real thing.

[Mal]

I think everyone's been through that.

[Rory]

Yeah. So he sounds a little young, so this might be his first right person, wrong time.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Situation.

[Mal]

And don't beat yourself up over that. Cause as time passes, you'll realize, even though they were cool, it was the wrong time. And you're in a better place now because of it.

[Rory]

And if enough time passes, you realize it was the wrong person, wrong time.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

No, wrong person, right time.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

She was the right person for that time. And thank God that time.

[Rory]

Yeah, that time has passed. That time is gone. You are now a different man.

[Mal]

That's gonna happen with everything in your life. Not just relationships. That can be. With career stuff. That can just be in general. That's part of growing up, where things seem like they're right, but timing doesn't add up. And everything will work itself out, even.

[Julian]

Simple things, down to fashion. We always joke about seeing old photos of you in clothes. We always make fun of Rory's old clothing. It's like, well, at the time, that made sense, but now you look back and like. Well, that was awful.

[Rory]

Terrible decision.

[Julian]

So it's not just like Tori's point, like, this is a thing.

[Mal]

Why was it just my fashion that you.

[Julian]

Well, because you've shared some shitty clothing things with us.

[Mal]

But I've made some choices.

[Julian]

Yeah. So that's not. You know, you're thinking about it in terms of a relationship, but that's just life that happens with everything. You can listen to music, music at one point that you thought was great, that you think is trash, and vice versa. You know, you just change. You're growing. Pause.

[Mal]

As long as. As long as you get out of the moment, what you need, get some nourishment and move on.

[Julian]

You'll get some head.

[Rory]

Yes.

[Mal]

I mean, that's What I was really getting at.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

But sometimes people are just experiences and vice versa. Sometimes you're just an experience for someone and they move the fuck on and you do the same. The purpose was just for that moment. So it wasn't really wrong time or right person. That was just a moment that you have to share and move the on.

[Rory]

Yeah, man. Don't beat yourself up too much, Brandon. It happens. Women that like the buses.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

There's one coming every four minutes. She.

[Mal]

She end up getting hooked on fentanyl. And 10 years down the line, you'll be like, thank God.

[Rory]

Then you'll play Beyonce.

[Damaris]

But if she would have been with him, she wouldn't have got hooked on it. You feel me?

[Mal]

He would have been there.

[Rory]

Then we would both be hooked on it.

[Julian]

Like Jesse and his girl and Breaking Bad. They were both trash.

[Mal]

Which one?

[Julian]

The one that he went through a couple crackheads. The one that Walter watched die.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Julian]

Big crackhead that that girl was hurting. See, is in San Antonio. San Antonio is historically one of the fattest cities in the country. So maybe she just gains just a thing. It's a thing.

[Mal]

Anybody like fat asses?

[Rory]

Nothing. Nothing better than a fat ass.

[Damaris]

The is wrong with y'all bro lot.

[Rory]

All right, well, last reminder of the year, Rory. It's our last show.

[Mal]

Yes.

[Rory]

December 14th, we are home. We will be at the Gramercy Theater in New York City to end our year of live shows. Thanks to every city, everybody that came out this year. 2024. Had a great run this year, man.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Seen some cool people, met some. Met some new cool people. Seen some old faces. Not like old like that, but old familiar face. Thank you to everybody that came out in Atlanta. Atlanta was great. Had a good time.

[Mal]

Peej and I were talking after the show between Toronto and Atlanta. We were like, damn. Maybe we should just keep going because the last two shows have been incredible.

[Rory]

I thought Chicago was incredible, though. Chicago.

[Mal]

Chicago is one of my favorites. By far. Crazy Chicago might have been the best show.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

But this back to back. Toronto, Atlanta was.

[Rory]

Yeah, Toronto was great. Atlanta was great. Thank you again. Tickets available now newroriandmall.com get your tickets. We will be in New York City to end the year. December 14th. Gramercy Theater. Time to have some fun with the home team. Home crowd. Our first home game of the year, is it?

[Mal]

Oh, yeah, I guess. You know, I mean, we always do.

[Rory]

We always end at home. So we've been on the road, now we get to have fun at home.

[Mal]

Everyone have a safe holiday. Week.

[Rory]

Yes. Be safe, be blessed.

[Mal]

Yes. We'll still have content for you guys. Don't worry. This isn't goodbye, but just wanted to say before Thanksgiving, everyone take.

[Rory]

Take care for now.

[Mal]

Yes. Travel safely. I know most people would be leaving Tuesday and Wednesday if they are traveling. Be safe. It's amateur hour on the roads, you know? What about you guys? Everyone going home? What's everyone doing?

[Rory]

Yeah. Going to see the family, man. Got to go see the family. Yeah.

[Julian]

Some time with train. Tuesday morning. Well, shit. Tomorrow morning. Damn.

[Damaris]

Well, today, technically, if you're hearing this.

[Rory]

Julian's on the train on that midnight train. Disconnected.

[Mal]

I don't know that version.

[Rory]

Oh, that's a new one the midnight train did with, you know, his. His. His version. Midnight train is connected.

[Julian]

While I'm home, I want to see Wicked. I've heard nothing but incredible things every time someone sees it.

[Rory]

Yeah, I've heard good things about that. Two of. Two of the greatest voices we have right now in that movie. How's that gay?

[Mal]

Because she's mean.

[Rory]

She's mean.

[Julian]

She is mean.

[Rory]

She's the green witch and Wicked. That's what she is. Yeah.

[Damaris]

She came down in a bubble, Doug. You guys ever saw that? Please tell me you know what I'm talking about.

[Mal]

I know.

[Rory]

Okay.

[Damaris]

Thank you. I was like, I can't be that in the Internet by myself.

[Julian]

What is that?

[Mal]

Beautiful train ride up to Albany. I love that answer.

[Rory]

You got a window seat?

[Julian]

I usually get one.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Julian]

Yeah. I do the thing where I like.

[Rory]

Are you gonna write your.

[Julian]

No one can sit next to me. Or I'll, like, look mean and put a hoodie on and just, like, look, like, don't talk.

[Rory]

Are you gonna take.

[Mal]

I'll just pretend to be asleep when every time they stop that, too.

[Damaris]

Oh, that must be so nice. I'm a girl, so people always want to sit next to me all the time.

[Julian]

I'm also super cognizant of that because, like, usually when there's open seats, it's like, a cute girl. I'm like, I can't sit next to her look, like, away. So I try. I just sit next to, like, the creepy gamer.

[Damaris]

I don't even think it's the girl because I don't be cute. Like, I travel really raggedy on purpose. It's not even that I'm cute. It's that I'm just a girl, so it's like, it's more comfortable. And men always just open their legs up and spread their legs because they have more leg room with me. Than they will with another man. And happens all the time.

[Mal]

If I saw a pretty girl on a train and I knew I had like a three hour train ride, I would do everything to avoid sitting next to her.

[Julian]

Same no men always like, I'm such a loser.

[Damaris]

So fucking annoying.

[Rory]

That happened to me at the airport in Atlanta.

[Mal]

You were the pretty girl or.

[Rory]

No, I felt like the pretty girl. No, I was. When I was leaving. When I landed in Atlanta, I was leaving, walking in a baggage claim, and a flight attendant was walking the opposite way. And like, I was looking at her, but I don't think she. I had a hoodie on that. I had my AirPods and I don't think she could see that I have my AirPods. And I'm looking. I'm just staring at her, but not staring at her like, I'm trying to, like, flirt with her. We just walking like this. And she started smiling, but she tilted her head like, can I help you? But she was smiling. And I know she wanted me to just stop her and talk to her, but I didn't. I just smiled at her and I kept walking.

[Mal]

Pussy.

[Damaris]

Oh, my God. I had a moment like that.

[Rory]

That's why I told the story. What?

[Mal]

Gay.

[Damaris]

Shout out to the. Shout out to the fan.

[Rory]

Now, like, women.

[Damaris]

I was walking, right? And there was this guy, and like, we kind of like locked eyes. And I was like, oh, like, you know, I did my cute little lock eyes smile.

[Rory]

Let me see how you do it.

[Damaris]

What you want me to do with you?

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

No, I can't do it. It's weird.

[Mal]

It's weird.

[Damaris]

It's weird.

[Mal]

It felt weird. To be honest, observing it made me feel uncomfortable.

[Rory]

Do it though. I can't.

[Julian]

She went, that was weird.

[Damaris]

It was weird.

[Rory]

It's awkward.

[Damaris]

I can't do it right here on the spot. But it was like a cute.

[Mal]

Can I do my impression to you of you? Let's lock eyes.

[Julian]

That was like what Amara does.

[Rory]

But that's the same thing the girl did. That's the same thing the flight attendant did. She had a head t. It was like. Like smiling. Yeah, exactly. That's exactly what it was.

[Damaris]

Yeah, it was a cute little look. And then like a look away or whatever. So he locked eyes. So I'm like, he's coming down. I'm like, oh, he about to holla, like, whatever. He walked up to me. He was like, damaris, right? Big fan of the pot. I was like, bro, I thought I had, like, me a little meet cute moment. Thank you for being a fan. Of the pie. Shout out to him. But, like.

[Rory]

Yeah, but he was saying fan of the pot. That don't mean he wasn't. Wasn't. Wouldn't.

[Damaris]

No, he didn't even slide.

[Mal]

He just had fans would definitely beat.

[Julian]

She dera swears she's not going to beat a fan of the pod.

[Damaris]

I'm not.

[Julian]

Come on.

[Damaris]

Not on purpose. If somebody tricked me. Somebody trick.

[Mal]

Not on purpose.

[Rory]

Imagine. Imagine the mar thinking a really like her and he come out the bath with the wet rag like, yo, that you said on Patreon was crazy.

[Mal]

And I kill myself. And after all the days, never said a word about anything.

[Damaris]

I would. I would like.

[Mal]

Oh, you do broadcasting. That's interesting broadcast. You do broadcasting, bro.

[Damaris]

I would. Oh, my God.

[Rory]

Oh, man.

[Mal]

All right.

[Rory]

Happy, happy Thanksgiving. Well, we not. Are we celebrating Thanksgiving?

[Mal]

Yeah. Not like the theory of it.

[Damaris]

White people day.

[Rory]

Yeah, like I'm down with that now that I'm down with I love you.

[Mal]

I still look at it as like a day that at least family can come together and eat. All right. Like, we don't sit at the table and, like, celebrate genocide.

[Rory]

Yeah, you don't.

[Julian]

Oh, no.

[Damaris]

Yo. Yo. Are you good?

[Mal]

Different. Different religion.

[Rory]

Different religion. Spend time with the family. Have fun with your friends. Be thankful for everything that you have. Have. Don't worry about what you don't have because somebody wishes they had what you have at this very moment.

[Mal]

And if anyone is listening and doesn't have a place to go, at least I know in New York City on Bowery has a great, great Thanksgiving day giveaway for people. If you know someone that needs food that day. Right on the Bowery. It's one of the biggest giveaways. It's. You know, we. We've donated there every year.

[Julian]

So Mal said his door is always open as well.

[Rory]

Always open.

[Julian]

Anybody needs a place to stay to crash it, find a good luck.

[Mal]

Yeah, I need a place.

[Rory]

Come on over. Don't worry about it. Got you. Be safe. Be blessed. Happy holidays to you all. We appreciate you all. Now let's finish this on Patreon because we got some to talk about.

[Damaris]

Yeah, Ma, almost him. Never mind.

[Rory]

I'm that he's just Ginger.

[Julian]

A short person.

[Damaris]

No worrying mouth.

[Mal]

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[Rory]

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[Mal]

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