Episode 331 | Our Best Of 2024

Summary

Episode 331 | Our Best Of 2024 – New Rory & MAL

Release Date: December 24, 2024

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1. Holiday Reflections and Family Time (00:02:10 – 00:05:00)

Rory and Mal kick off the episode by sharing their holiday experiences, emphasizing the importance of family time amidst the festive chaos. Rory discusses hosting his father and the extended family, highlighting the blend of warmth and the challenges of managing multiple guests.

Notable Quote:

• Rory [05:01]: "I'm hosting this year, which is always fun, I guess, but, you know, my dad's already been here for a week, is staying for another week."

2. High School Memories and Friendships (00:05:00 – 00:09:00)

The hosts delve into nostalgia, reminiscing about high school friendships and the divergent paths classmates have taken. Mal shares a poignant moment about encountering a former high school friend struggling with life, underscoring the often unexpected trajectories people take.

Notable Quote:

• Mal [09:24]: "He was the first dude I ever saw wearing Louis Vuitton. Like, wearing it. Like, I always saw, like, Louis luggage and things."

3. Best Rap Albums of 2024 (00:20:55 – 00:30:00)

Rory presents his top ten rap albums of the year, featuring artists like Freddie Gibbs, Dochi, and Vince Staples. The discussion highlights the diversity and quality of the rap scene in 2024, with each host contributing their favorites and providing personal insights into why these albums stood out.

Notable Quotes:

• Rory [22:02]: "Number one, Freddie Gibbs, you only die once."
• Peach [25:37]: "If you haven't heard 96 miles from Bethlehem, please do yourself a favor and listen to that."

4. Top R&B Albums of 2024 (00:34:07 – 00:44:00)

Transitioning to R&B, Rory and his co-hosts discuss their favorite albums of the year. The list includes standout projects from Leon Thomas III, Lucky Day, and Sinead Bryson, among others. The conversation touches on the evolution of the genre and the impact of these albums on the current musical landscape.

Notable Quotes:

• Rory [34:44]: "Leon Thomas Mutt. I also think that is the best R B album."
• Peach [36:16]: "Leon Thomas, obviously, album of the year, in my opinion."

5. Pop Culture Highlights of 2024 (00:43:00 – 00:58:00)

The hosts explore significant pop culture moments from the year, including high-profile data breaches, celebrity news, and notable events like the Drake and Kendrick Lamar feuds. They critique media coverage, especially focusing on the Today Show’s handling of various incidents.

Notable Quotes:

• Rory [43:58]: "I do want to see it, but I'm not going in with high hopes. Even with people telling me it sucks. I still want to see it."
• Peach [54:02]: "I just want some clarification."

6. Listener Voicemails and Advice (00:98:30 – 01:19:00)

In this segment, the hosts address listener voicemails, offering advice on personal and sensitive issues. One caller seeks guidance on confronting a brother involved in inappropriate online behavior, leading to a discussion on handling such delicate family matters with empathy and assertiveness.

Notable Quotes:

• Mal [103:15]: "You could also get a therapist. You could guilt him with the religious angle, too."
• Rory [114:25]: "But once you're there, I'm like, I'm here. I'm just gonna bring a book."

7. SZA's Latest Album Discussion (00:64:27 – 01:19:00)

Rory and the team delve into SZA's recent album release, "Scorpio Baby Daddy," analyzing its connection to her previous work, "SOS." They debate whether the new release signifies a new artistic era or serves as an extension of her existing legacy. The conversation praises SZA's lyrical prowess and the cohesive sound of her projects.

Notable Quotes:

• Rory [75:31]: "I think, honestly, in the height of the moment before I nutted, I would probably agree to that."
• Peach [78:28]: "That's the type of music she makes. That's her. The zone that she's in."

8. Final Thoughts and Holiday Wishes (01:19:00 – End)

As the episode draws to a close, Rory, Mal, and Peach extend their holiday greetings to listeners, encouraging them to enjoy family time and catch up on past episodes. They briefly mention upcoming episodes and express gratitude towards their audience.

Notable Quote:

• Rory [122:56]: "We're gonna skipping one episode for you guys. You will not have one on Friday and Saturday. But we will be right back Monday."

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Conclusion

Episode 331 of New Rory & MAL serves as a comprehensive year-end review, blending personal anecdotes with in-depth discussions on music and pop culture. The hosts provide thoughtful insights into their favorite albums of 2024, reflect on personal experiences, and engage with listeners' concerns, all while maintaining their characteristic humor and candidness.

Transcript

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[Rory]

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[Mal]

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[Damaris]

No worry I'm.

[Rory]

Ms. Know It all you find a man you got no ch you can damn baby baby if I stop blaming the world for my faults I could evolve maybe the pressure just made me to solve Cause all I seem to do is get in my way then blame you is a cycle rinse recycle. You're so sick I'm so sick of me too Call me miss Cry Baby hold me miss Cry Baby it's not my fault Fist my feet love and we're back. We didn't Go nowhere, days away. Slept here from white baby Jesus's birthday. I cannot wait. Are you setting up like a nativity scene or, like, what are you doing? What? What, man?

[Peach]

No.

[Rory]

You wear a Jesus piece.

[Peach]

Yes, I do, but. No, I'm not to answer you.

[Rory]

I know you didn't grow up in Catholic church, but you did go to church at some point, right?

[Peach]

I had no choice at one point in my life.

[Rory]

Rory, did you. Did your church do, like, the whole thing on Christmas night? Yeah, like, all the kids do the nativity scene, and I was. They give a child a fake baby.

[Peach]

Say now, behold the lamb. I was a lamb in a play before.

[Rory]

I was always a shepherd. Three years straight.

[Peach]

Yeah, yeah.

[Rory]

They even gave us, like, a stick. And everything was really cool.

[Peach]

There's some.

[Rory]

All the girls were angels, like, then.

[Peach]

See, I don't like that I had to be a lamb as a black man. You were the shepherd.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Peach]

Which is kind of like slave owner, like, type of vibe.

[Rory]

I don't know if that would be the case.

[Peach]

It's the same.

[Rory]

I think slave owners didn't really double as shepherds because they had some help. I think they stayed. I think the shepherds were more like hands on with what they were doing. But there was definitely some slavery going on around that time.

[Peach]

Oh, absolutely.

[Rory]

In retrospect, I always found it funny, though, that they made like an 11 year old BE a pregnant woman and walk.

[Peach]

Walk down the aisle is crazy wild.

[Rory]

But yeah, shout out to everyone all the kids that have to go to church either the night before or the day of while you're thinking about presents. Yes, I know that.

[Peach]

Struggle and salute to everybody that's struggling around the holidays.

[Rory]

Yes.

[Peach]

It's a real thing, holiday depression. You know, don't. Don't be down on yourself too much. Everybody's kind of in a tough spot financially now, so you can still enjoy the holidays and enjoy your loved ones. Even if you can't go out and buy and spend as you would like, still enjoy, you know, time with your family.

[Rory]

Yeah, that's just made up by, you.

[Peach]

Know, consumerism, fourth quarter sales.

[Rory]

Pretty much, yes. But I'm hosting this year, which is always fun, I guess, but, you know, my dad's already been here for a week, is staying for another week. This is.

[Peach]

Oh, nah, I gotta see your pops before he leave.

[Rory]

He'll be here.

[Peach]

I gotta.

[Rory]

I got a new 27th or 28th.

[Peach]

Oh, I gotta tell him. I gotta give him, you know, you know, frankincense and myrrh.

[Rory]

Oh, okay.

[Peach]

I got Myrrh.

[Rory]

I follow.

[Peach]

Me and your pops gonna smoke some mer.

[Rory]

Yo. Me and Jake, me and my dad yesterday. Pause. Tag team at the kids playground. No, that sounds crazy, but here we. Let me, let me.

[Mal]

Okay, let me land that one on Epstein's Island. Go ahead.

[Rory]

Never turbulence there. Always smooth later.

[Peach]

Yeah, great weather.

[Rory]

So Tuesday, the one day that we don't record. I took Amara to this indoor playground and I walked in and it was incredible. I was like, oh, this is awesome. But she was kind of coming off being sick, so, you know, she didn't really like it that much. But I was like, I know she's gonna like it when she feels better. So I go on Friday completely empty because most people are either at school or whatever, work. So she has this place to herself. She's running a fucking muck. We were there for like three hours. Saturday I go back because I'm like, she had a great time. Freezing outside. She can't do anything. Let's go back Saturday. Wasn't thinking. Of course it's going to be mobbed in there. Could. It was unwalkable. It was a zoovie, if you will, in there.

[Peach]

Yeah.

[Rory]

On Friday, I was kind of cool with Amar exploring by herself because there wasn't anything that would hurt her and, you know, let her go by herself. But with this many people, I was on her ass, following her everywhere.

[Peach]

Yeah.

[Rory]

It doesn't really have an age limit, so there's bigger kids there. I don't really care if you're a child. If you touch my daughter, back of your head is being palmed and thrown into that fucking ball pit. Me and my dad were just taking turns kicking over fucking seven year olds.

[Peach]

Nice.

[Rory]

At one point I had taken like one of the foam things and just started like beating them away.

[Peach]

Yeah. Thought you were playing, but it was.

[Rory]

No, I wasn't. I was. I was making sure that their eyes were red after like.

[Peach]

So you were. You were beating kids is what you're saying?

[Rory]

Yes.

[Peach]

Okay.

[Rory]

And I think that's.

[Peach]

Kids need a beating. Yeah, absolutely.

[Rory]

Because their parents are sitting on the sideline cuz they're old enough to just run around no matter what. Yeah, I'm. I'm in the. The weeds of like crawling spaces.

[Peach]

Yeah.

[Rory]

If you're going near my not two year old. No. Yeah, you're getting thrown.

[Peach]

Amar's not two yet.

[Rory]

Nope.

[Peach]

No.

[Rory]

Soon though.

[Peach]

Oh my gosh, she's big.

[Rory]

Damn, she's gonna be tall. I know.

[Peach]

Hell yeah. Wow.

[Rory]

Looks like me, but certainly doesn't have. Have the genes of that. She's gonna break the pharaoh height curse for sure.

[Peach]

That's good.

[Rory]

But, yeah, I had no shame in it either. One of them cried. I was like, good.

[Peach]

All right, kids.

[Rory]

Now you know. Now you know. Don't touch her.

[Peach]

Exactly. Tough love. I saw one of my. Well, you know how you had. Growing up, you had the one guy in the hood that's kind of like the guy you look up to.

[Rory]

Okay.

[Peach]

You don't realize, like, until you're older that he was only, like, three. Three or four years older than you. Yeah, man. I just saw one of my, like, dudes that I looked up to and just, like, always enjoyed being around from my hood back in the day. He's doing bad right now, man. I just saw. Literally, I was at the light and saw him, like, in the street, like, asking for, like, calls for change, man. And that shit. Like, I'm not gonna lie, that kind of choked me up. And I had heard, like, over the years, people were telling me, like, yo, he's not doing good. Like, you know, he's kind of out there. But I never. I hadn't seen him. Literally just saw him on the way here. I mean, he didn't change nobody else in the day.

[Rory]

Like, how just now it's fucking 10 degrees outside.

[Peach]

Exactly. Like, so. But it was kind of like five cars at the light, and he was at the front, at the light, and I was, like, three cars behind. And I'm looking, I'm like, I know that's not who I think. And I'm. And as he turned around, like, I saw his face, and it was him. And I was just like, oh, man, dog. Like, that was like, when I tell you one of the coolest dudes in the hood back in the days, he was the first dude I ever saw wearing Louis Vuitton. Like, wearing it. Like, I always saw, like, Louis luggage and things. He was the first person I ever remember wearing Louis Vuitton. Like, he was that guy growing up, like, super cool, could rap, could dance, girls liked him. And I think he just, you know, just found drugs, you know, somewhere in the early 2000s and just never bounced back.

[Rory]

Damn, homie. In high school, you was the man, homie. I feel like that does happen a lot. And kids don't realize that in high school or junior high, like, the coolest, quote, unquote, coolest people usually end up being the people that don't do anything with their lives. It's usually more of the nerdier, more creative kids that end up doing shit with their Lives.

[Peach]

But it rocks you when you see somebody you was cool with and used to, like, hang out with every day to see them. Homeless. Yeah, that. That hits you totally different. Like, that's like, damn. Like, I know somebody that's homeless. Like, yeah.

[Rory]

And you did nothing about it. Sellout.

[Peach]

I mean, got a little bit of.

[Rory]

Money and just forgot about all 12 degrees.

[Mal]

I'll roll the window down. And blew smoke in his face.

[Peach]

No, hit the light. 12 degrees out. So he didn't see. You know, he was a couple tents. Well, no, it was. He couldn't see in a couple cars ahead of me. So I was just like, damn, man. You know?

[Rory]

But I said, but the light's about to change.

[Peach]

Yeah. And the light was changing, and I had to get here because we gotta, you know, do what we got.

[Rory]

Of course you're thinking about Peach and his.

[Peach]

He's got to get out of here. Yeah. He got to go see his family. I didn't want to, you know.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Peach]

So. Come on.

[Mal]

It's also the thing, like, in. In growing up, even, like, grade school, there's like, the. The whoever's the cutest girl always ends up disgusting when it. When adult sometimes.

[Peach]

Because the cute girl.

[Mal]

Yes.

[Peach]

Now there's some cute girls. I went to high school, and I see them now, and I'm just like, everybody's sis now. All the cute girls that ain't cute no more. Yo, what's up, sis? But the cute girls are still cute. It's like, yo, why you acting funny? Are you still talking? Why are you acting like that?

[Rory]

But that can be bad. A lot of the really cute girls in high school got too much attention too early that ended up ruining their lives.

[Mal]

Yep.

[Rory]

Like, they ended up fudgeing with a way older dude and getting pregnant at 17.

[Mal]

Literally, what I'm talking about is that exact situation.

[Rory]

Like, had they just been the ugly, ugly duckling that just needed five more years to be pretty, it could have saved their fucking lives.

[Peach]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Like, right after college, you become a bad bitch. Perfect.

[Mal]

Yeah. Like, a girl that gets hot during those four years in college is like, that's the one you should, like, when she's freshman year, like, she's. And then by junior year, like, oh, shit. Like, that's a. That's a real.

[Peach]

So none of the girls you went to high school with that was, like, cute and, like, hot in high school? You see them now? None of them still, like, like, no. Really?

[Mal]

Oh, no. Also, I didn't go.

[Peach]

Oh, but you went to, like, I'm.

[Mal]

Also never Gonna put Albany or. I'm not bigging upstate at all. It's garbage. So, like, there's no. There's real. No lookers up there to begin with. Let's start there. I live there. I spend a lot of time there. Yeah, but I'll be there tomorrow. When you're listening this. I'm there. Tell you who I didn't see today.

[Rory]

A hot woman that were at SUNY Albany, that were from Albany, were fired.

[Mal]

Those are like the Colony girl, like the white. I didn't go to white schools. I didn't go to the white schools. I went to like, where the. You know.

[Damaris]

Wait, what do you think when Rory. I was looking for white women about white women.

[Rory]

Well, I'm just saying, like, just looking.

[Peach]

For the whites and what you definitely. What high school did you go to?

[Mal]

I went to Schenectady High School.

[Peach]

What?

[Mal]

It's not. It's not white at all.

[Damaris]

It's very trailer trash.

[Mal]

It's not trailer trash poor, but it's not white.

[Rory]

It's some mixed bunch.

[Peach]

It's a mixed bunch of like, mid.

[Mal]

It's a lot of mid.

[Peach]

Mixed mid.

[Mal]

It's a lot of mid.

[Rory]

Okay, but I mean, I feel like.

[Mal]

They tell you that too. I don't think anyone that's from there is like, it's the best. Just don't lie to yourself.

[Peach]

So the cutest girl in your school. It was like, that's not tough to be. It's not.

[Mal]

You know, I mean, there's always like, there's. Yes, there's like. There's like an outlier. Of course.

[Peach]

Yeah.

[Mal]

But I'm talking about just your average. Yeah, like the walk in the hallway, you're like, yeah, that makes sense.

[Rory]

Yeah, but I feel like all the bad.

[Peach]

Yeah, you make sense.

[Rory]

All the bad chicks like in LA are all transplants from, like, small towns.

[Peach]

I feel like, nice.

[Rory]

They were.

[Peach]

It's some pretty homegrown, like California.

[Rory]

Oh, no, of course LA has amazing local women, but a lot of like those fucking I want to be an actress model types. Even in New York, you see it with the models. Like, they're all from weird towns.

[Mal]

Yeah, they're all from like, Kansas.

[Rory]

And they were the hottest girl in school. And you know, they were told that. So they were like, oh, it must. I can easily go to Manhattan if I'm killing it up in Rochester.

[Mal]

I'm playing the battle in Rochester.

[Damaris]

Throwing shots at upstate. Yo, mad other states.

[Rory]

I'm the hottest in Utica, Farmington, Connecticut. I'm smoking right now.

[Peach]

What About Utica. Are they out there in Utica?

[Damaris]

No, nobody's out there.

[Mal]

Utica.

[Rory]

No one's outside in Utica. It's too cold.

[Mal]

My mom's from Utica.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Yeah. Big Lebanese population in Utica.

[Peach]

Oh, so it's probably not Utica.

[Mal]

There's some Lebanese women out there.

[Peach]

Yeah, I never would have guessed that It's Lebanese women in Utica.

[Mal]

No, Utica.

[Peach]

Doesn't seem.

[Damaris]

Syracuse got the baddest from the upstate girls. I'm just telling you. I'm just telling you that Syracuse got the baddest from the upstate girls. I'm just saying.

[Peach]

But that's what I'm thinking. Syracuse is a big. So.

[Rory]

Well, let's not make it to Buffalo.

[Damaris]

Gonna want to fight because I said that.

[Rory]

But what do you think for the L. A metropolitan area, if that even exists. Who do you think has the.

[Peach]

The baddest in the L. A metropolitan area?

[Rory]

Women that grew up in L. A. Oh, Cal Basses.

[Damaris]

No, Julian.

[Peach]

What do you mean, Cal? You have to.

[Mal]

You guys have to think. It's just all the guys that own TV networks that just bag hot models and then they have fucking hot kids. That's how it works.

[Peach]

Oh, it doesn't.

[Mal]

You go to.

[Peach]

I know some pretty. I know some good looking couples in that kids. I'm like, that's your mom. Like, damn.

[Mal]

Every girl I know that's from la, like, grew up in la. That's grew up, went to Beverly Hills. Highs did that. Like, real traditional. I'm rich as I'm from here. All their moms are just like a super hot foreign model. And the dad is like, you know, fill in the blank.

[Damaris]

Different strokes for different folks. I would go with probably Inglewood.

[Rory]

No, I've definitely met some bad from Englewood. Whatever part of the Valley or whatever it is that Karuchi is from, she's still friends with all her friends from high school. And all of them are back. Like, whatever area that is, is number one.

[Damaris]

Peach, we got to get. We. Thank God. Peaches, have a mic.

[Rory]

You have to edit yourself now.

[Mal]

I'm kind of with them, though.

[Rory]

They're there Valley girls as well. Not like the stereotypical, like, oh, my God, the Valley. Not those girls. But there's some bad chicks in the Valley.

[Damaris]

You have a terrible Valley voice. Try it again.

[Rory]

Oh, my God, there's so much traffic on that canyon way. And now Laurel. How am I gonna get to Hollywood?

[Damaris]

Why is it so soft? You have to make it more annoying. Oh, God, no, no, you do it vocal. Fry Vocal Kim Kardashian. Vocal fry. Like, oh, my God. Yeah. I don't understand why.

[Rory]

Yeah, I know chicks from Staten island that sound.

[Peach]

I know chicks from right here on. On Murray. Murray Hill that sound like.

[Mal]

I was waiting.

[Rory]

Glendale. Speaking of Kardashians, there's some bad chicks in Glendale. And now it's becoming local just to la.

[Damaris]

The Cali people are literally screaming at their radios right now. Well, not their radios, but how long.

[Mal]

Is that at their radios, at their radio.

[Rory]

At their AM radio marriage.

[Peach]

To say they're screaming at their radios. Who has a radio?

[Rory]

All the New Yorkers.

[Mal]

Well, if it's a crowd we're talking about, they're screaming at their Tesla robots or whatever the they got out there.

[Peach]

Yeah.

[Rory]

How long is everyone. Well, you're staying here. Going down.

[Peach]

I'm going down. I'm going down to see the fam. Yeah, I leave tomorrow.

[Rory]

Okay.

[Peach]

Well, when they're hearing this, I'm on my way to see my family gone for the week.

[Rory]

You guys gonna run through some. Maybe some old local high school, like one. The one that got away.

[Mal]

I already told you how I feel about that.

[Rory]

I mean, but if you're there for a week, you got to do something.

[Mal]

No, no, I. I was. I had the thought. I was like, do I bring my PS5 home? But I'm not going to be that guy. I'm just gonna bring a book.

[Peach]

I'm not. Bring it.

[Damaris]

No, bring it.

[Mal]

I feel like I should, but.

[Rory]

Nah.

[Mal]

Because then, like, as soon as you.

[Peach]

Get home, you're gonna be mad.

[Damaris]

You ain't bring it.

[Peach]

Yep, you're gonna be.

[Mal]

Because we don't really have, like. I don't have like, the TV that I can just like, duck off and like, have for myself. So I'd be like having to set it up in the living room.

[Peach]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Mal]

I'm like, that's.

[Rory]

Everyone goes to sleep. You can do like 1:00am to 5:00am shift.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Peach]

You know, black magic. Asleep by 9. Sure.

[Rory]

That's because, you know, you know what he was doing before.

[Peach]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Mal]

What was he doing? Right.

[Rory]

How'd he get the name?

[Damaris]

All right.

[Rory]

Yeah, sorry if you guys are listening, but I think that's healthy. It's good for a marriage. Continue to do so.

[Peach]

I'm with you.

[Rory]

You can't play PS5. Or get what? Like, what could you do with your holiday break?

[Damaris]

I don't know, Spend time with your parents? I don't know.

[Mal]

Probably. I'm probably just going to work out and go to the Bar.

[Peach]

Spending time with your parents is cool. Like, the first two, three hours catch up on everything, and you run out.

[Rory]

Of things to talk about.

[Peach]

Then after that, it's like, all right.

[Mal]

Yeah, bro.

[Damaris]

My mother, like, she calls my name so much, and I'm just like, what do you do when I'm not here? Like, how do you just call my name all day? I get tired of hearing my name when I'm. When I go home. It's just like, why are you calling me from different parts of the house? You don't even want anything. She'll call me three floors up and I'll go up and she'll be like.

[Mal]

What are you doing three floors?

[Damaris]

We just a basement, a first floor and a second floor. It's not all right. It's not. I am poor. I am not. I'm from the hood. I do not live in a mansion.

[Peach]

My family own a brownstone. Schenectady.

[Rory]

They discovered Harlem. Just go to.

[Damaris]

Just please.

[Rory]

You have the keys to every brownstone.

[Peach]

Brownstone in Schenectady.

[Mal]

I was saying to Damaris, I'm mad.

[Rory]

That I'm going to calm right there.

[Mal]

I'm staying home until Sunday, which is annoying because I want to come back here already.

[Damaris]

To do what, though?

[Mal]

Like, have a weekend.

[Rory]

Why can't you do that?

[Mal]

Well, I'm not gonna change my train. It's like a whole thing.

[Rory]

My therapist has reminded me a lot this year that I'm an adult and I can do. I don't have to listen to what my parents say. Like, every time I'll talk about a certain thing, you know, like, you know, you can tell them no, right?

[Peach]

Yeah.

[Rory]

I was like, I never even like, thought of that.

[Peach]

I feel bad.

[Rory]

Like, same I'm at. That's not even.

[Peach]

I'm not even wired telling like my family and everybody know, like, I really feel bad. Like, when I say it, I'm like. Like I'm give up myself. Like, damn, man. Like, you gotta be there for your family. You gotta support everybody. Gotta. And then sometimes I'm like that.

[Rory]

No, like, Julian, you can say, hey, I'm coming for Christmas. I'll stay for another day. And then I'm. I'm leaving. I'm an adult.

[Mal]

Yeah. I don't know. It's just like once I'm there, I'm like, I'm here. I might as well. Because I know how much. It's not for me. It's obviously for them. They care so much more. I mean, I love it, which is great, but it's Like, I'm. They're gonna be there for like, seven nights. I'm like, that's a long time.

[Peach]

Yeah.

[Mal]

So.

[Peach]

Well, I mean, everybody hopefully is enjoying their families and having a great time and, you know, enjoying this time off. If you're off from work, school, whatever it is, you know, happy holidays.

[Rory]

Friday night, went to some family's house with my dad and Amara, and I was very proud of myself. I was baited into the healthcare CEO conversation. There was opposing views, and even though I was turning red in the face, I just stayed quiet. And I was like, fair enough.

[Peach]

What were the opposing views?

[Rory]

We don't have to get into it, but.

[Mal]

So they drank the Fox News Kool Aid.

[Peach]

Which side was Jake on? Is what?

[Rory]

Oh, no. My dad was arguing.

[Mal]

He loves him.

[Rory]

The only way I was going, he.

[Mal]

Has a Luigi tag, Mario, Luigi, the whole game.

[Rory]

The only reason I. Why I was gonna step in was like, I couldn't let my pops do this by himself.

[Peach]

Oh.

[Rory]

But then I was like, if I get started, I'll take it too far. My dad can kind of teeter with the line. Yeah, if he's sober, and he was at the time. So he, like, knew the line. But I was sitting there red in the face. But I was very proud of myself of just shutting the fuck up. And I'm not going to change anyone's mind.

[Peach]

Let him have.

[Rory]

This will just be an argument.

[Peach]

Let them have it. Let him have it.

[Rory]

So I pretended to go to the bathroom and just tried to wait it out. Yeah, I could hear them still arguing about it.

[Mal]

I can't believe you're defending a terrorist, Rory.

[Rory]

Listen, man.

[Mal]

A terrorist, Our health care.

[Rory]

Then there was one point he didn't even have United Health Care. I was like, all right, see, this is why. This is why I did not want to be in conversation. But anyways, it's been an interesting year. This is not our last episode of the year, but I figured we could run through some of our favorite albums. I don't want to do the top ten greatest rap albums.

[Peach]

No, we don't have to.

[Rory]

That becomes a thing.

[Peach]

Yeah, we don't have to do a list. We can just run off some of our. Our own personal favorite songs. Albums of the year.

[Rory]

But what's interesting is we are prefacing these are our favorites. We will still be attacked and debated. Even when you say no, it's my personal favorite. Yeah, you're debating me on my taste. If you don't like my no.

[Peach]

That's the way the world is building.

[Rory]

I'M not saying this is the best.

[Peach]

Right.

[Rory]

This is what I like.

[Peach]

This is what I enjoyed.

[Rory]

Even with that, we will still be argued down.

[Peach]

Oh, for sure. I love it, though.

[Rory]

What do you guys think are. Let's go around the room. What would you Predict my top three rap albums would be without looking?

[Peach]

Your top three?

[Rory]

Yeah, I have a top 10 here.

[Peach]

But I'm gonna say Vince Stables.

[Rory]

Okay.

[Peach]

Oh, that was this year. Gnx.

[Rory]

Okay.

[Peach]

And I'm gonna say Freddie Gibbs.

[Rory]

You got two for three. Yeah, I will go through mine now. Or unless we want to predict malls.

[Damaris]

Freddie Gibbs.

[Mal]

Yeah, Mall loves that Freddie one.

[Rory]

Definitely going Freddie Gibbs.

[Mal]

I would put Dochi in to Rory's, too.

[Peach]

Oh, yes.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

The. The Family Matters ep.

[Peach]

I'm the only one that got it. Yes.

[Rory]

In my phone, all the unreleased Drake records. The Party Next Door and Drake album that none of us have heard and probably won't hear in 2024 is definitely number one. I don't know if that's R and B or rap yet, but that's. That's there.

[Peach]

It's a little bit of both. You know what I mean?

[Rory]

No. Jokes aside, Freddie Gibbs, I have in yours. I think I'm gonna go schoolboy Q in yours. And I wouldn't even know. I guess Vince Staples would be in your top three.

[Damaris]

Did Benny drop this year or Conway?

[Peach]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Okay, so whatever they put out, Conway.

[Peach]

Dropped this year, too.

[Damaris]

So Benny Conway, and Freddie Gibbs.

[Peach]

That's my top three.

[Rory]

Top pretty good guys.

[Peach]

They all on my list. They all on my list. For sure, they all on my list.

[Rory]

All right, well, I'll start with my actual list. Top 10 personal favorite albums of 2024. In the rap category, number one, Freddie Gibbs, you only die once. Number two, Dochi.

[Peach]

Is this any particular order?

[Rory]

This is in one through 10.

[Peach]

Okay, so you have Freddie Gibbs as the best rap album of the year.

[Rory]

My personal favorite. Yes. Number two, Dochi. Alligator Bites Never Heal. Number three, Vince Staples, Dark Times. Number four, Tyler Creator, Chronicopia. Number five, Tierra Whack Worldwide Whack. Number six, Schoolboy Q, Blue Lips. Number seven, Kendrick Lamar, gnx. Number eight, future of Metro. We don't trust you. Which is saying something, because I've never been the biggest future fan. I get it, but fucking love that album. Number nine, Rhapsody, Please Don't Cry. And number ten, Common and Pete Rock, the Auditorium, Volume one.

[Damaris]

Well, this is interesting because you guys were given the assignment of 5. Were you not able to only do 5?

[Mal]

Bro, you can't do that. You can't do that.

[Rory]

Last year we tried to do five, and I'm not doing that. You leave too much shit off.

[Peach]

And yeah, five is.

[Damaris]

I mean, that's the point of the list. That's the point of being your favorite.

[Rory]

Well, there's five there. You could.

[Peach]

Well, here we go.

[Mal]

We can just saw this in half.

[Damaris]

No, I was just asking because I wanted to know, like, are you being super inclusive? Are these the only albums you listen to or are these really all your favorite? Because I think that's why we. Why I originally said 5. 10 is fine. But I just wanted to bring that up that we originally said five. Was it because, like, more than five were your favorite favorite, if that makes sense.

[Mal]

Grow my.

[Rory]

No, I will say the five that are here are the one. The five that I listen to by far the most.

[Damaris]

Okay.

[Rory]

This year, even though Tyler came a little later in the year, I would say that would be the highest. And Schoolboy Q would be six right there. Everything after that could be kind of mixed around a bit. But my top five is. That was my. That's pretty solid five as far as what I listened to the most on the rap album side this year for sure.

[Damaris]

Okay.

[Peach]

Now we have a few. Some of the same artists as far as rap albums of the year that we personally loved. I didn't put this in no particular order, but I will say for me personally, Freddie Gibbs has the best rap album of 2024. I think you only. You Only Die Once is incredible. I could do without some of the skits.

[Rory]

Yeah, that's my. That's my only real experience now.

[Peach]

Even though some of them are funny, you know, I mean, they started to.

[Rory]

Land later into the album, but in the beginning I felt like, oh, this is cheapening up. Really good music.

[Peach]

Yeah, but. But it's a. It's an. It's a phenomenal album. Incredible album. So that. That's my fun. The most important rap album, which I think is different than the best rap album, but to me, the most important rap album of 2024 is belly. Belly. 96 miles from Bethlehem.

[Rory]

Great album.

[Peach]

I think that's a one the probably the most important rap project of 2024.

[Rory]

If you haven't Content wise, for sure.

[Peach]

Yeah. If you haven't heard 96 miles from Bethlehem, please do yourself a favor and listen to that.

[Rory]

But important meaning the content and everything that has been going on in the middle of the street.

[Peach]

Yes. The message of it. How personal it is as an artist to make that type of music and that album. You know, I think that it's just. It speaks to exactly what hip hop is. You know what I mean? So shout out to Belly on that project. But I have Freddie as the number one album for me. Vince Staples, no particular order. I didn't. I couldn't just put it in particular, but Vince Staples, Young Chris and Ryder, the Case Closed ep.

[Rory]

You've been talking about that a lot.

[Peach]

One of my favorite projects this year. Larry June put out a crazy album this year. Benny the butch at 38 special, stabbed and shot two. One of my favorite projects this year. Also Benny Summertime Butch was one of my favorite rap albums. Rap projects this year, contrary to popular belief. Cole, we might delete later. One of my favorite rap projects this year.

[Rory]

Why I didn't put that on my list. I do. It would be there. But it's an ep, right? Yeah, but later, it just would make my top five of what I listened to by far the most this year. But I. I just thought it was an ep, so I didn't put it there.

[Peach]

Anything. I'm looking.

[Damaris]

That's an album. You know, in this day and age, that doesn't matter anymore.

[Rory]

Okay, well, all Dreamville and Cole fans. I promise that wasn't a slight. I just consider that an EP. That's why it wasn't in my top 10.

[Peach]

Anything that an artist probably share, I'm counting.

[Rory]

If that's the case. Sorry, Comedy Pete Rock, I'm bumping you out. And I would put Cole at either 5 or 6.

[Peach]

So comedy Pete Rock is off the.

[Rory]

List altogether if I have to add my delete later. Damn, there's only 10 slots.

[Peach]

I have comedy Pete Rock on here. Kendrick GNX. We don't trust you. Tyler the creator, Schoolboy Q. No particular order.

[Mal]

Nice.

[Peach]

My favorite projects of 2024.

[Rory]

Okay, well, then I'm changing mine now that I know the rules. That.

[Mal]

That is a. Rory, the rules.

[Peach]

You don't have to change.

[Mal]

Rory love establishing rules.

[Peach]

It's just your favorite product. I'm a fan of.

[Rory]

I think rules are important. It's how society functions, so.

[Damaris]

Ma, it was supposed to be a structured list. It was supposed to be a structured list, so I can't blame him for taking one off and replacing.

[Peach]

I mean, but he's speaking albums. Ep. I didn't get caught up in that. I don't care if it was seven songs or 17 songs. It's a project.

[Rory]

True, I. I guess I get what.

[Peach]

You'Re saying, but for me, it was just like, if I listen to this, it has replay value. And I. I loved It. I don't care how many songs it was.

[Rory]

Okay. Well, I mean, yeah. Also Summer Walker got nominated for R B album of the year and EP was in the title. So I guess everything. There are rules and they have changed.

[Peach]

Yeah. No, there's rules. People just don't abide by them anymore. But there's rules.

[Rory]

Okay. Going into R and B. I mean, did you guys. I know you guys didn't put a list together, but is there any notable albums that we missed that you guys listened to?

[Mal]

Oh, that you missed? Oh, no.

[Rory]

Ones that you loved?

[Mal]

Yeah, I was gonna say. I mean, they're mostly chromacopia. I loved Vince's album Dark Times. We still don't trust you. As far in, the Dochi album's great too. As far in J. Cole. So as far as, like, what you guys put here, I never really got into Blue Lips. I don't know. I just didn't do it.

[Rory]

Go back. It's really good.

[Mal]

I think I gotta revisit.

[Rory]

Came at a weird time because obviously the Drake and Kendrick thing.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

I think overshadowed all music that had just came out or was coming out.

[Peach]

But specifically rap music.

[Rory]

Oh, yeah, for sure.

[Mal]

Yeah. I think a lot of R got.

[Peach]

They off during that battle, but rap was kind of this time of year.

[Mal]

I think it's. You're right. I should probably go back and give that. And I. Do you. You guys play the Freddie Gibbs one a lot in the studio. And every time I hear it, I like it. I think I just also have to just sit with that and listen to it straight through.

[Peach]

Yeah, it's.

[Rory]

It's the most replay value of a straight up rap album that I've heard. As far as important, I thought that was an interesting category. More. I agree with the Belly based off the content important music wise. I still think Dochi Alligator Bites Never Heal should fall under one of the most important albums. Just because I think it didn't change the landscape per se. I'm not saying she's doing something that hasn't been done, but it brought it back into a mainstream light. I feel like it was the first time in a while. I think everyone was like, maybe hip hop isn't doomed for. On a mainstream level. This woman has a lot of fucking talent, can't wait to see where her career goes type of thing. So I would put that also in most important albums this year.

[Peach]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Yeah. Shout out to Dochi Cordae as well. Corday dropped a great project, Crossroads. That's what I would add.

[Rory]

Okay.

[Mal]

If anything.

[Rory]

But yeah, My sleeper album of the year, Tiara Whack Worldwide Whack was one of my favorites. Really, really good. I also. It sounds crazy to say, but I don't think Vince Staples Dark Times got to just do it it.

[Peach]

When did it come up?

[Mal]

Early in the year. I remember bumping that. I think when we were in la.

[Rory]

Was it around the time that the his show came out? I yo this year, even though it flew by, it still didn't. If that makes sense. Like some I can't believe happened in 2020.

[Mal]

That came out in May. I thought it was earlier.

[Peach]

Oh, that. There you go.

[Mal]

Yeah, that came out May 24th.

[Peach]

That was during the battle.

[Mal]

So right during the even. That shows how good it was because I was listening to that a lot when all that was stuff was going on.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Peach]

And that title was fitting like during that time.

[Rory]

There's so much good music on that.

[Mal]

Yeah. Honestly, it's kind of a good Dark Times.

[Rory]

One of those few rap albums like the Gibbs one that you can just put on and leave it.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

There is no real skips on that. Everything connects really well.

[Peach]

Freddie Gibbs album is phenomenal, man. Like every. Every day I listen to it, I like it more and more.

[Rory]

Trying to think if there's any other albums that we missed. I'm sure you guys are still screaming at your AM radio for all the stuff that we did miss. Oh, the era of bringing Ransom Chaos is My ladder too. Was really, really good. That could have made.

[Peach]

When did he drop that, though?

[Rory]

That was 2024. And then smoke and Mirrors was also fire. Smoking Mirrors should make my top 10 now that I'm thinking about it. This is why I hate doing Ransom was. Then I start thinking of other projects.

[Peach]

Ransom came, but it's September.

[Rory]

It's three records. But you guys said EPs count. Like that's why I didn't have Ransom on this stuff. Because a lot of those joints are eps.

[Damaris]

All right, well, let's say it has to be more than six songs. I feel like more than six or more than seven songs is an album. Seven songs or more.

[Rory]

Okay.

[Damaris]

Seven songs or more. I feel like.

[Rory]

Well then does my delete later after he deleted one.

[Mal]

Yes, it still does.

[Rory]

Okay.

[Peach]

Gets nominated for.

[Mal]

Yeah, I was going to say it's also Grammy nominated.

[Rory]

All right, then. Then Ransom Chaos is my latter two definitely should be mentioned in a top 10, 20, 24 list for rap. For sure.

[Peach]

Yeah. Oh, yeah. The photo bomb. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm tripping.

[Damaris]

I know you guys don't listen to female Rap so you don't give it. It's just do. But Lotto had an amazing album and she deserves.

[Rory]

She did Glowrilla too. If I was doing like a best list, Glorilla's album would be there. Like this is just my. My personal shit.

[Peach]

Yeah. I'm just making it for me. I'm not saying in the landscape of the entire thing, but for me, what I played that had the most replay value for me this year. Yeah.

[Rory]

Okay. R and B had a lot of great albums this year, but still feel like on a volume scale was a little light in the ass. But we did get some great ones. Still regret not putting my album out in 2024 instead of 2023. And also now I'm terrified we don't don't regret it.

[Peach]

Why you regretting it? You got your put out a phenomenal.

[Rory]

Project and nominations are what define us.

[Peach]

That's true album.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Wasn't good unless it's list. It's listed.

[Peach]

Yeah, I get it.

[Rory]

And also it scares me for 2025 the amount of people that didn't drop and I'm trying to drop.

[Mal]

You picked a shitty album cycle.

[Rory]

Yeah. What the.

[Mal]

You should have dropped in the even years.

[Damaris]

Well, SZA got out the way for you.

[Rory]

We'll get to the SZA album. I will say now she did not make my list because I made this list before she even dropped and I don't think it's fair. But we will get into her album after we do the R B category. Predictions of my top three.

[Peach]

Oh, obviously. Leon Thomas.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Peach]

Lucky day.

[Mal]

I don't know who your third would be.

[Peach]

I think me and Rory both like agreed on one of these RB albums that I have.

[Damaris]

I will go much. Sinead Bryson.

[Rory]

Okay. Pretty much. Pretty much guess my top three when Damaris added the third. But I'm for your guess for top three. Leon Thomas Mutt. Every time you walk into the office, you're listening to that. I'll put Lucky Day there for you as well. And I know how much you like the Bryson one, so I think it's the exact same prediction on that. But Bryson was not in my top three. Number one for me, Leon Thomas Mutt. I also think that is the best as well. It's not just my personal favorite. That was the best R B album.

[Peach]

That might be the best album this year for sure.

[Rory]

Yeah. Across the board. That might be the best album. Incredible. Incredible album. But not far behind him at all was Lucky Day Algorithm. One of my favorite lucky projects. Which is saying something. Loved what he did on that. Number three, Damaris was correct. Sinead Harnett, Boundaries. Incredible. Also, don't think it got it to just do number four, Raven Bird. Bird's Eye. Number five, you could say isn't R B. I'm calling it R B. MKG 2 star in the dream Police. I think you really like that project. If you haven't listened, I'm sure people will tell me that's alternative. It's a rbl. Number six, Galant Zinc. Number seven, Layla Gapier. Really excited for her. She's one of my favorite new artists. Number eight, which feels disrespectful that it's at eight. Thames. Born in the Wild is an incredible, incredible album. Number nine, Bryson Tiller. Bryson Tiller. Number 10, Money Long. Revenge.

[Peach]

Yeah, that's.

[Rory]

That's my 10 there.

[Peach]

That's a solid.

[Rory]

That's a solid list, I guess. Notable mention, Marsha Ambrosius. Her and Dr. Dre put out a project, which is Fire. I just didn't get back to it the way I thought I would. And I don't know if that was because I was busy or just kind of forgot, but that's a really, really.

[Peach]

Great album for me. Leon Thomas, obviously, album of the year, in my opinion. Again, no particular order. Bryson Tiller. PND 4. Yay Ali. Private suite 5. Lucky day, hombre. Put out a dope project.

[Rory]

Oh, shit. Yeah.

[Peach]

How far? This project is incredible. The Xavier Omar LA project. I like that joint they put out Yay Ali. Also put out Trap House, Jodeci Radio, Volume one. Really like that project. Money Longs Project.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Peach]

And that's my list of obviously all the ones that I've had on replay.

[Rory]

Okay, so this changes things again. Ombre. Here we go in the title.

[Mal]

So, like, you kicking out Money Long. Because you have to.

[Rory]

If we're doing this, I do this in my sleep dash EP. And you guys said seven records. It's six, 15 minutes. No, it is phenomenal. You don't know with Alex Isley is one of my favorite songs this year. But that's an ep, man. Fifteen minutes, six records. And EP is in the title. That's the album. Now, you could title it. This is an ep, not an album. And everybody like, well, it's an album.

[Peach]

Yeah. Kehlani while we wait, too. Yeah, I like that project, too.

[Rory]

The Deluxe. The Deluxe make me like that album even more. The Deluxe. I wish you would have put some of those records on the first time.

[Peach]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Slow Dance with Dixon is insane. Like, there's really, really good Records.

[Peach]

It was some great music this year. Like, I know the battle and all of that kind of like, you know, took up a lot of the talking space and kind of overshadowed everything else. But there was, like, a lot. A lot of good music this year.

[Mal]

Honorable mention for the R B. Mac A Res put out a great. I never know how to pronounce his name. Is that how you say it?

[Peach]

Mac Ayers airs.

[Mal]

That's probably errors.

[Rory]

Did he put it under R B or.

[Mal]

It's R B. Yeah.

[Rory]

Okay.

[Mal]

It's a good, great album.

[Rory]

Max should definitely, definitely be on that list.

[Mal]

What's that album called? It's actually gonna bother me.

[Rory]

Damaris. Was there any. Any R B that I missed? And I know.

[Damaris]

Well, your favorites are your favorites.

[Rory]

No, of course, but just stuff that you liked.

[Mal]

That's the name.

[Damaris]

I didn't listen to much R B this year, I would have to say. But, I mean, Kiana's album is being left off of everything, and I think that her going independent has a lot to do with that. I've been fighting with the people that's been making, like, lists for these magazines. I'm leaving her off. Top R and B albums been pissing me off.

[Peach]

That's your. You talk about that.

[Damaris]

That's my. That's. That's all I listen to. It. It made my end of year rap listen. It had only been out for a.

[Rory]

Month, so I didn't know if it counted because it was a deluxe, which I guess could be a segue into the scissor stuff. The Chris Brown 1111 Deluxe came out.

[Damaris]

In 2024, wasn't it additional, like, 10, 15 songs?

[Rory]

It was another album, but, yeah, I don't know if that. Does that count?

[Peach]

Yes.

[Rory]

Okay, then. That was really good. That could be one of top. I mean, you know.

[Mal]

Who are you kicking off now? Bryson. You kicking off, Bryson?

[Rory]

Wait, no, I was gonna kick off.

[Damaris]

No, the deluxe came out.

[Peach]

Oh, okay, okay, okay.

[Damaris]

Jaguar 2 Deluxe came out this year. I know it's just a deluxe, but it is an additional, like, five, six, seven records. I don't know.

[Peach]

Yeah, that would. You know, there's a lot of dope projects, man. People say it's not nothing to listen to. I'm like, y'all bugging. It's a lot of shit out here y'all can listen to.

[Rory]

But it was. It was the year of the. The beef. So, yeah, everything got completely overlooked by One week out of Hip hop. Before we do get to SZA, I was on, you know, todayshow.com because that's what I do in the morning before I get my news when Katie's not working.

[Peach]

Go to todayshow.com.

[Rory]

You know, once they let Matt go for those, you know, simple accusations, everything went to this is their woke media. Yeah. Like, why can't the guy be able to lock his door from his desk?

[Mal]

So what do you have when a.

[Rory]

Woman is sitting there? This Woke Culture 25 Pop Culture Moments that Define 2024. Luke Combs and Tracy Chapman have a fast car duet at the Grammys. Totally missed that.

[Peach]

You didn't see that performance. Yes, you did.

[Mal]

Oh, that was fire. Yeah, that was great about that.

[Rory]

Then I don't remember it. I definitely watched the Grammys, but that.

[Peach]

Didn'T like, that was Tracy Chapman's first. Like.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

They finally gave her like, listen, man, my heart, my hard drive got wiped in May. I forgot that that even happened. Yeah, I love that. To today's show, just as a photo of Kansas City Chiefs win the super bowl and it's Taylor Swift and, you know, love, Mr. Swift, just love that has nothing to do with the Chiefs winning the Super Bowl.

[Mal]

What about like the.

[Rory]

Like, why not holding the.

[Mal]

Why not Mahomes?

[Peach]

I mean, because Mahomes isn't hugging Taylor Swift.

[Mal]

I mean, he's got his Maga queen.

[Rory]

I mean, so I thought the Today show would have all like fluff stuff that we could have fun with because it's been a long year. It got. It gets dark quick. King Charles III and Kate Middleton announced cancer diagnosis. That's cultural moment.

[Peach]

What?

[Mal]

That's a big deal to a lot of people.

[Rory]

Is that a cultural moment? Yeah.

[Peach]

I don't know if we should put that on a list, though. Like somebody being diagnosed.

[Mal]

Oh, getting cancer. Is that a culture?

[Peach]

How are we listing that?

[Rory]

Because, I mean.

[Peach]

And then look was above it. Oppenheimer.

[Rory]

So you put Oppenheimer above a cancer reveal party.

[Peach]

Like, what the fuck is the cancer.

[Mal]

Reveal is sandwich in between Oppenheimer and Taylor Swift in the Chief.

[Peach]

Yeah. Like what is happening right now?

[Rory]

And had. All right, if Taylor Swift was not involved with the Kansas City Chiefs would not be on this list. Would that be on the list?

[Peach]

No.

[Rory]

The Chiefs winning yet another Super Bowl.

[Peach]

No. Would not be on the list.

[Rory]

It just gets darker and darker from here. Drake Bell shares he was sexually abused as a child star in Nickelodeon. Mind you, I went to the Today show. I didn't want to go. I didn't want to go to the list. I didn't want to go to these places that I knew Were just going to be like, puff did this, all this nasty shit. I wanted to have fun today. And let's go through this. I'm like, okay, we're. Who compiled two for five so far?

[Peach]

Who compiled this list, though?

[Rory]

Katie Couric.

[Peach]

No, Katie Couric did not compile this list.

[Mal]

He fled to Mexico. You know his story.

[Rory]

Well, wasn't he involved in some weird.

[Mal]

He's, you know, it's one of the cases where it's like, well, because he was sexually abused, you know, becomes the abuser. But he was, like, getting. He was about to get jammed up. He's. He's like a news reporter in Mexico now.

[Peach]

When in doubt, run the game.

[Mal]

Crazy down there.

[Peach]

I get it.

[Rory]

Cancun. That's where you think he went.

[Peach]

Go to Cancun.

[Rory]

Did he go to, like, some small town, or is he legitimately in Tulum right now?

[Peach]

He's in Cabo.

[Mal]

I don't know where he lives, but.

[Peach]

He'S in Cabo slamming back some anejo.

[Rory]

And usually. Usually. That's not where. They don't usually go to Mexico. They usually go to another country. We're not allowed to say why.

[Peach]

Are we not?

[Mal]

Oh, true. Yeah, that's the asylum.

[Peach]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Rory]

That's accepted. You get dual citizenship. The moment that accusation starts, come on in.

[Mal]

He's in Mexico City. Oh, he's doing all. I mean, that's pretty chill.

[Rory]

That's pretty chill.

[Mal]

I mean, that's like a great city to run to. Like, that's after you live a great life.

[Rory]

Sexual misconduct with a minor. Yeah, I see where you're taking us. I see where you and Al Roker put this list together. Beyonce, Cowboy Carter. Yeah, it was a moment.

[Peach]

Definitely a moment.

[Rory]

I liked it. Zendaya rules the box office with Dune Part two. And Challengers didn't see either.

[Peach]

Part two was Unity Part two.

[Mal]

No, I never saw Dune either of them, really. I like Challengers, though. Challengers wasn't bad.

[Rory]

Next one I'm all on board for maybe reindeer Internet.

[Peach]

Oh, man.

[Rory]

Sleeper moment of the year. If there's crazy stories, this should be number one or number two to me.

[Peach]

Crazy story.

[Mal]

This was one of those moments where we all actually agreed to watch a show and we did it and it was worth it.

[Rory]

If you have not seen baby reindeer, watch it over the holidays and talk to your family.

[Peach]

Makes total sense to watch it over the holidays.

[Rory]

Taylor Swift releases the Torture Poets Department. I mean, that should have been number one.

[Mal]

Yeah. When they go like 20 million first week.

[Rory]

This should Be high up there too. Caitlin Clark and Angel Reese being drafted to the wnba.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Rory]

I feel like changed that entire organization.

[Peach]

Yeah.

[Rory]

In a way it's never been before. That's just a cultural moment in, like, the last decade. I feel like.

[Peach]

Yeah, this. This was big for the wnba. This is a magic. And Larry all over again, in my opinion.

[Rory]

Sabrina Carpenter, Shaboozi and Chappelle Roan take over the charts. All three of them put out great music, so I'm not hating on the pop.

[Damaris]

You don't know who the Chappelle Roan is?

[Rory]

I just watched your tiny chapel.

[Mal]

Roan. You guys can't say her name, right?

[Peach]

Chappelle.

[Mal]

Chappelle Dave Chappelle Rowan.

[Rory]

If you were French, you would know.

[Peach]

If I was friends, I'll be able to stay, right?

[Rory]

He is silent.

[Peach]

Oh, yeah. It's only one either.

[Rory]

She. She even did an interview and said that she got her name from Killing Them Softly.

[Mal]

She's from, like, bum, Missouri.

[Rory]

You said something crazy. I don't know if I'm snitching on you because it was off mic. You don't find her attractive?

[Mal]

I don't.

[Rory]

Which is nuts to me.

[Mal]

Sabrina Carpenter, by the way. That's who we do. I don't want to like on her, but, like, I just. I don't get it. I don't see it as far as.

[Peach]

Talent or just attract.

[Mal]

All of it. Okay, I. Go ahead. I don't know what her stands are called. You guys can kill me. I doubt they listen to this.

[Rory]

Jesus.

[Damaris]

Carpenters. Yeah. Wrote a carpenter.

[Mal]

Yeah. Jesus was a carpenter.

[Peach]

That's a fact.

[Rory]

As someone that. That, you know, my top pick isn't usually the whites. I think she's gorgeous. She's gorgeous.

[Damaris]

Gorgeous girl.

[Mal]

She's not.

[Rory]

All right, moving on. Of course. Drake, Kendrick Lamar, maybe. Probably number one.

[Peach]

Definitely number.

[Mal]

Who are these guys?

[Peach]

Last 25 years, definitely.

[Rory]

Can someone explain Brat Summer to me?

[Mal]

This was the white women's Drake, Kendrick Lamar, you know, it wasn't a beef. There was no beef.

[Rory]

Taylor and Scooter. Scooter Braun. That was the white people's Drake and Kendrick for sure.

[Mal]

Oh, that's right.

[Rory]

Explain Brat to me. What is it?

[Mal]

This is white women. It's like the whole thing is. It's Charlie xcx. So she. She's like the new Madonna in terms of, like, her cultural fan base. It's like the eccentric gays and. And women.

[Rory]

Nice.

[Mal]

So the whole thing is like, we just get blackout drunk off martinis and do coke, and then we don't go to sleep. And then brass Summer do it again. Like, it's just.

[Rory]

Oh, so they just, like, bit Megan with hot girl Summer and got their own.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Yes.

[Mal]

It's like the. The white version of that.

[Peach]

Yo, I am so. I've never even heard of this neither.

[Mal]

Really.

[Peach]

No.

[Damaris]

No.

[Rory]

Reading this this morning was the first time I'd ever even heard Brett.

[Peach]

You heard of this page?

[Rory]

Well, did you guys run into any women?

[Mal]

Oh, yeah. Go. Yeah.

[Rory]

What's their version of driving the boat? Doing those in Nashville when you do. When you do the bike and drink at the same time.

[Peach]

No, they actually drive just doing code. Yeah. Like, their dad. Their dad owns a boat. They actually.

[Mal]

Cool thing about Tri xxo, like, I don't. Personally, I don't care if the music's whatever, but her branding and what she does is. Is incredible. Like, this was how she named her deluxe album Brat. And it's the same, but there's three more songs, so it's not. That's the name of her deluxe out. Like, the branding behind her is incredible.

[Peach]

That's a Rory title 100%.

[Rory]

Like, she really understand it. You don't even have to talk about the rules at that point.

[Mal]

And every era. Every era that she does is just a color. So obviously, Brat was this green color. But if you look at, like, the course of her career, it's actually. It's genius marketing. She just picks a color and hammers at home.

[Damaris]

It says, you're like that girl who is a little messy and likes to party and maybe say some dumb things sometimes who feels herself but also maybe has a breakdown but kind of, like, parties through. It is very honest, very blunt, a little bit volatile. Like, does dumb things, but it's Brat.

[Rory]

Oh, so me at 22, who is her manager. Her team is smoking this. Every girl felt seen after reading a lifestyle that can be described perfectly of every woman I've ever met.

[Peach]

That's like the zodiac sign. You know, when you say something about a zodiac, they're like, oh, yes, that's so true. Yeah, well, that applies to everybody.

[Mal]

Like, this is a perfect synopsis.

[Rory]

Geminis and Aries can see eye to eye.

[Mal]

This is a great. This is a perfect synopsis. You're both luxurious and trashy, involving items like a pack of cigarettes, a strappy white top, and no bra. Like, it's like the girl that.

[Damaris]

It's the Lower east side that grew.

[Mal]

Up in Greenwich, Connecticut, but lives in, like, the junkie Chinatown place with, like, two roommates and doesn't really have a Job, but never has to worry about money. She's writing a screen, but pretend she's broken.

[Peach]

Yeah.

[Mal]

But also just wears, like, YSL and Chanel. Yeah. And then, you know, and then she, like, gets shit faced in Times Square, but then goes home to Connecticut and has, like, a fudgeing service team.

[Peach]

Yeah.

[Rory]

She only smokes cigarettes when she's drinking.

[Mal]

Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Yeah.

[Peach]

She goes out my vape.

[Mal]

I don't.

[Peach]

And gets lit top. And then, like, she calls and have some. Bring an IV to her, like, yes. Apartment.

[Mal]

That's Brad as fog having an IV getting dripped into your veins in a shitty, windowless apartment in Chinatown.

[Rory]

Every pregame in her kitchen. When you're ready to go out, she goes, don't worry. I the dj.

[Mal]

Yes. I'm the dj. That's the. Yeah.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Peach]

He just left our house.

[Rory]

Like, literally, he's DJ slash my coke dealer.

[Mal]

But the DJ is 45 and.

[Rory]

Exactly.

[Mal]

Figured it out. Yeah. It's not weird yet, but it is.

[Damaris]

So New York City.

[Rory]

And they think he's cool because he has, like, a luxury apartment in Williamsburg, but it's actually just a studio. But it has big windows.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Like, he made it, but he's 48.

[Mal]

I'm literally talking about just guys that I know in the scene.

[Peach]

And after the club, they go get, like, the best tacos from the taco truck.

[Rory]

100%.

[Peach]

Yeah.

[Rory]

And say, this is so us.

[Peach]

Yeah.

[Rory]

You know why I'm here.

[Peach]

Yeah. Sit Indian style on the sidewalk and eat tacos after the club. I get it.

[Rory]

And they're like, you go to epanada Mama. I go to the truck.

[Mal]

Like, I love empanada, Mama.

[Rory]

So do I.

[Mal]

The toro. Shout out to the toro.

[Rory]

All right. Well, yeah, I mean, I guess we're all Brat. It was the year of the Brat.

[Peach]

Yeah. I didn't know. I didn't realize I was a bread. Thank you.

[Rory]

Chinese. Year of the Brat.

[Mal]

Oh, that was love. Love.

[Rory]

Love Island, USA Season 6 phenomenon. Yeah. I mean, that. That did ring off.

[Peach]

No. Love is Blind better be on this, Clay. Better be on this list.

[Rory]

Was that. That was this year?

[Mal]

Was that this year?

[Peach]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Jesus.

[Peach]

That was January. February.

[Damaris]

This is a long time at the altar.

[Peach]

Clay is a legend. He better be on this list, man.

[Rory]

Wait, so this is gonna be the first Christmas of him going home after that incident?

[Peach]

Yes.

[Damaris]

I.

[Rory]

Like, that was two years ago.

[Peach]

No, that was this year.

[Rory]

Wait, so they. So Love is Blind. Like, they had a DMX year.

[Peach]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Two platinum albums in one year.

[Peach]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Jesus Christ. Yeah. Love is Blind. Does deserve to be on here. This is also dark. Alec Baldwin's manslaughter charges were dismissed.

[Peach]

That is dark. Wasn't he just on SNL last night?

[Mal]

What? No way.

[Peach]

Yes, he was.

[Rory]

He skipped all the trump so I doubt that he's been.

[Peach]

Alec Baldwin was on SNL last night.

[Mal]

Oh wow.

[Peach]

I mean, when he was on SNL last night.

[Rory]

But he wasn't doing it when he was out on bail. This is like not guilty.

[Peach]

I don't know. He was there last night. I know that.

[Rory]

Listen, man, was that one of the weirdest fucking cases. I know it was covered non stop, but it's still. I never really got answers of that. I don't believe Alec Baldwin should be criminally charged for that. I can see a civil suit because you were the producer and in charge of the safety. That was there. But criminally? If you hand me a gun that's not supposed to have any bullets in.

[Peach]

It and we could see that's not my fault. There's no way for me to tell.

[Rory]

I guess you should check it. But that's the rules. You're the person that hands it to me is supposed to do that?

[Peach]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Who is the person that handed it to him? We get every John Doe name in the world. Who the handed him a loaded gun on a set?

[Damaris]

Girl, Some girl. Andrea something. We knew, we talked about it.

[Rory]

They. They skipped over that to just focus on Alec Baldwin.

[Mal]

So technically it's a girl's fault.

[Rory]

Yes, it is. Why are you handing me a loaded gun on a set?

[Damaris]

But that's also expecting that she knew was. You don't know who loaded it. How is she supposed to.

[Rory]

Well, that's my question. Like with all these trials, who the fuck loaded the gun? That's not the main question here. I know Alec Baldwin's the most famous.

[Peach]

One here, but I'm pretty sure that came up. It had to come up in the.

[Mal]

Oh, for sure.

[Peach]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Why is that person.

[Mal]

Not criminally, but it wasn't actually a bullet. Right. It was a blank. Because those things can be lethal. The fake. It wasn't a real bullet.

[Rory]

It wasn't with some. Some that shouldn't have been in a gun. I'll tell you that A blank does not do that.

[Peach]

I thought it was the same thing that happened to Brandon Lee. No.

[Damaris]

Okay, I found it. So the film's armorer, the person that's in charge of ammunition and stuff on set, Hannah G. Reed, accidentally mixed up dummy bullets with live ammunition that she had brought from home.

[Mal]

Right. That's crazy.

[Damaris]

Now, she wanted Shorty dead.

[Rory]

And that's what I'm saying. We focused on Alec Baldwin, which I understand, but why is that not more of the story? Why did that woman just. With her lunch from home, just brought, like, live ammunition?

[Mal]

It's a loose Ziploc bag.

[Rory]

And then, like, if that's your job and you're an expert on it, you're just gonna mix that up?

[Damaris]

That doesn't even make sense.

[Peach]

So she didn't face no criminal charges?

[Rory]

No, that's like a DP mixing up a lens. Like, they don't study that for a living.

[Mal]

She was just like, oopsies.

[Peach]

Yeah, like, I. Bradley.

[Damaris]

That's definitely brat.

[Mal]

That is so brat.

[Peach]

No. I don't know. Relax.

[Rory]

Sometimes you have to live life, man. Just go with the flow.

[Peach]

Somebody died.

[Mal]

When you mix up the bullets. Teehee. And someone dies.

[Peach]

Pete.

[Rory]

What. What's. What's the tinfoil hat theory on this? Because that's another thing. I see all the conspiracy theories. I never even really saw one on this because it doesn't make any sense. And you, the conspiracy theory world, makes that out of anything and everything. Why one is a woman allowed? Never mind. It's the end of the year, man.

[Peach]

I'm with you.

[Rory]

It was a joke.

[Peach]

I'm with you. Why are they in charge of guns?

[Rory]

Why was she also not charged?

[Damaris]

She was charged. I wanted to go back and reiterate. So she was charged. She was convicted, too, of involuntary manslaughter for the killing of cinematographer Helena and was sentenced to 18 months in prison.

[Peach]

That sounds about right.

[Rory]

Weed dealers get more than that.

[Peach]

I mean, you know, but.

[Rory]

Well, yeah, that was.

[Peach]

That's because of taxes.

[Rory]

Quite the moment. The coconut tree meme with Kamala's picture. I don't know what that means.

[Mal]

Kamala.

[Rory]

Kamala.

[Damaris]

Do you think I just fell out of a coconut tree? Oh, I never understood the big thing with that either. I don't know. Gen Z. The things that they make. Like, big is just guys.

[Mal]

Remember Kamala? Remember when that was a thing?

[Rory]

The fact that that's not on the. Well, it may be on this list.

[Mal]

You do remember when she raised a billion dollars?

[Peach]

You do that.

[Mal]

Went nowhere.

[Peach]

You helped her.

[Rory]

Outside of, like, Kendrick and Drake. Number one on this list should have been. Hey, do you remember when the president dropped out of the fucking presidential race three months before election time? And then his vice president.

[Peach]

That's not on this list.

[Rory]

Got a billion fucking. No coconut tree is.

[Peach]

Oh, my God.

[Rory]

Trump got shot.

[Peach]

Maybe that has to be on his list.

[Rory]

Well, no. 2024, Paris Olympics.

[Mal]

That shit was lit.

[Rory]

It ends with US controversy.

[Mal]

I love the.

[Peach]

Wait, wait, wait, wait. What is this, like, numbered?

[Rory]

No, this is going through.

[Peach]

Trump getting shot is not on this list.

[Mal]

We don't know.

[Rory]

We shall see. I didn't go all the way through.

[Peach]

Okay.

[Rory]

It ends with US controversy. I don't even remember this.

[Mal]

Oh, she's so funny. Update on this. They had a really weird thing. Remember they had a sexual assault thing. I don't know. She's suing him now. She's. Blake Lively is suing the. This guy, the actor from the film, over that film.

[Damaris]

So, yeah, their rollout was really weird. I never knew in. Netflix keeps, like, recommending it to me. It's like, to the point where. Okay, Netflix. I'm going to watch it. I watch it.

[Rory]

Is that where Shame Moore got his rollout from? Get to that as well. Jennifer Lopez files for divorce from Ben Affleck. Huge cultural moment.

[Damaris]

How is that, like, that's been a huge cultural moment, like, 10 times already every year.

[Rory]

It's like Groundhog Day. We know it's coming.

[Mal]

They're gonna be back together.

[Damaris]

Yeah, for sure.

[Rory]

Puff is arrested. Jimmy Carter turns 100. That was up what y'all did to Jimmy Carter, bringing him, wheeling him out to the White House like that. A dead body.

[Peach]

Just let people. Let people just be in their homes, man. 100 years old. You don't. We don't have to see him outside.

[Rory]

It's fine. And we have, like, zoom and shit now. Yeah, just zoom them in.

[Peach]

Right?

[Rory]

Dark. Liam Payne dies. Jake Paul defeats Mike Tyson. Glicked. I don't know what the that is.

[Mal]

Oh, they tried to remake Barbenheimer. Gladiator, Gladiator and Wicked.

[Rory]

Oh, it's together.

[Damaris]

Well, I don't blame him because he read it, right?

[Mal]

Yes.

[Damaris]

But Glick, it is stupid.

[Rory]

The moment.

[Mal]

Has anyone seen Gladiator 2?

[Rory]

No.

[Peach]

Yeah, I saw it.

[Mal]

What, you think I haven't seen it yet?

[Peach]

It was cool.

[Mal]

I heard it was not bad.

[Peach]

It's not better than Part one, obviously, but it wasn't terrible. How did Lindsay do Denzel? Oh, he did his thing. But Denzel's at that point where he's just. You know when somebody is so cool in real life, like, you see them in a movie, you're like, that's Denzel. I don't care what your name of your character is. It's like, yo, Denzel. They wasn't walking like that back. Like, you walking. Cool. You walking in the coliseum all cool.

[Rory]

And like, Calling people my man.

[Peach]

Yeah, you got waves. He had waves. He had a diamond earring. I'm like, what we doing? You look like you just put on some and walked in front of the kid. You chilling?

[Rory]

Was drinking Ardbeg Scotch.

[Peach]

Yeah, man. It's like, I can't. He just. At that point, man. Denzel is just way too cool, man. He's way too cool, man.

[Rory]

I do want to see it, but I'm not going in with high hopes. Even with people telling me it sucks. I still want to see it.

[Peach]

I thought Denzel was a pimp. I'm like, he pimping? They was. He was pimping back in the Coliseum days. Good hair.

[Rory]

I mean, good gobs on.

[Peach]

I'm like, he got. Are those gobs? Is that what they call those, cuz? You know, back then, it was either if you didn't have money, it was rags. You was just wearing. Whatever. This had his tailored. I'm like, denise, they'll cut the shit.

[Rory]

Was there even. Was it technically called a pimp back then? Because there was no sex trafficking. It was just like, we're stuck in traffic right now. So, yeah, it was like, he wasn't a pimp. He was just a king.

[Peach]

He was a king. That's all.

[Rory]

Just a regular job.

[Peach]

Yeah, but it was okay.

[Rory]

The ERAS tour ends. Who. That was rough, yo. That's the end of the list. No, they don't have. Shut up, Donald. I swear to God.

[Peach]

That is fucking.

[Mal]

Wait, so Taylor Swift has two moments, basically on this list, and Trump getting.

[Peach]

Shot is not on this list.

[Rory]

She has three moments.

[Damaris]

The assassination of the president. Well, the attempted assassination of the president.

[Rory]

You're not feeling Al Roker's list.

[Peach]

Yo, how is this.

[Rory]

Al Roker's like Al Rokers.

[Damaris]

So what I'm going to say is that I think that this is just pop culture.

[Peach]

I think I'm talking about the most.

[Rory]

Famous president in fucking history who's gotten more clicks than any human being. Kamala maybe being shot in the ear.

[Damaris]

But it's not Kamala. About Kamala. Anything having to do with her presidential race. It's about the. The young Gen Z turning her into a meme.

[Mal]

There's a cancer diagnosis on here.

[Peach]

Like. Yeah, like.

[Damaris]

Yeah, but it's about.

[Mal]

That is politics. This is a political post.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Peach]

Trump getting shot.

[Damaris]

I agree.

[Peach]

Is not being on this list is absolutely crazy. This is what I'm trying to tell you, bro. We not. This is. None of this is real. We're living in assimilation.

[Rory]

This is not their defense, though. We kind of moved on within 48 hours.

[Peach]

That's what I'm saying. This is craziness. Obviously we moved on. He's not even on the list.

[Rory]

And also, my man Luigi, I know he just put out his deluxe, but.

[Peach]

Yeah, he just dropped. Luigi dropped. He just dropped.

[Rory]

That was enough time for me for him to make.

[Peach]

Yeah, but he just dropped.

[Rory]

I know Sza couldn't make Luigi. That was an instant classic.

[Peach]

Yeah, but you got to live with it.

[Rory]

We thought Blueprint was an instant classic on 9 11. Yeah, that was our.

[Peach]

What was. What was the names he put on the bullet? That's the name of his ep. Deny. What was it? Delay.

[Mal]

The die. Delay. I don't know what the fan.

[Peach]

That's a gangster name for EP right there. Luigi. Luigi Rollout was crazy.

[Rory]

Produced by Rock Marciano. Defend. Deny.

[Peach]

Definitely lo fi. It's lo fi music behind.

[Rory]

Well, that's fun. Shout out to the Today show. I'm sure you guys. I'm sure you guys.

[Peach]

That's crazy, man.

[Rory]

But yeah, I just wanted to find some quick recap of this year that would be silly and funny, but God, was that not it whatsoever?

[Peach]

Yeah, that was crazy.

[Jack]

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[Peach]

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[Rory]

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[Damaris]

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[Mal]

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[Rory]

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[Peach]

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[Rory]

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[Peach]

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[Rory]

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[Mal]

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[Rory]

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[Peach]

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[Rory]

Do you guys want to get into SZA or talk about Shameik Moore being a weirdo? We can close music, I guess.

[Peach]

Yeah. Get into Scissor.

[Rory]

We are recording this on the 22nd. SZA's album came out a day and a half ago. Technically.

[Peach]

Sza. I just want you to know that I am upset at you. I should not be in my shower as a grown man from the Bronx, New York, singing Scorsese Baby Daddy to the top of my lungs.

[Rory]

It's a joint.

[Peach]

Like, why Sza doing this? She just gonna make you sing shit that you ain't supposed to be singing. I'm not supposed to be singing that.

[Rory]

That's a thing with you and you.

[Damaris]

Only every time he in the shower, though, body wet.

[Rory]

Well, that's.

[Peach]

Yeah, but it's like. Cause the music is on and that shit is like, start thumping you like, this shit is knocking. I'm full of suds. Hey, you know, you gotta get a good lather, you know?

[Rory]

But again, that's a you thing. Cause even, like, trying to think of an egregious one. Sza the Weeknd. Like, I sing that with my heart. And that's. I'm singing about fucking a guy on the weekend.

[Peach]

Yeah, that's cool.

[Damaris]

You're actually singing about being a side whore. One of three.

[Rory]

But, I mean, the melody is so great. Why can't I sing along?

[Peach]

And then she got the other one. What's on the Chill Baby.

[Damaris]

I haven't heard the album.

[Rory]

If I rap along to gangsta rap lyrics that I don't participate in real life, they're like Crybaby.

[Peach]

Wait, Damaris hasn't heard the SZA album yet.

[Mal]

Oh, Chill Baby is on here.

[Damaris]

I'm not. I don't. I, I. I'm a huge SZA fan. I really, really love sza, but I'm not in the right mental state to be listening to that shit.

[Rory]

Mm.

[Peach]

Wait, what happened? You okay?

[Damaris]

Life. But I just. I'm not in a. I don't listen to. I don't.

[Peach]

Like, I feel like that's when you're.

[Damaris]

Supposed to listen to. When I'm sad. No.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

No.

[Peach]

And you go in the shower and you put the hot water on. Nobody know you crying?

[Damaris]

Nope. I've been listening to Disney soundtracks.

[Rory]

The steam gets rid of the tears. You don't even know you're crying.

[Peach]

You don't even know. Just not running. It's okay. Let the water hit you. Is that right?

[Damaris]

If nobody's around to See the tear hit the ground like, did I cry?

[Peach]

No. But the soil is happy Peach don't.

[Damaris]

In my ear like the porcelain of the.

[Rory]

The shower.

[Damaris]

But I'm. I'm. It's good. You guys are saying. Everybody say that is good.

[Rory]

The soil, those salty tears.

[Damaris]

So why do you guys think that it's a deluxe and not a brand new album right here? Keep hearing Royce.

[Peach]

Now I will say I do wish that this would have been a whole separate thing from SOS though.

[Mal]

It's 46 minutes of new music.

[Peach]

Yeah, no, it's great music. Like, it sounds great. The 30 for 30 joint with Kendrick is dope again. Scorsese, baby Daddy, chill, baby. She got. It's some joints on here, man. But I just, you know, attaching it to SOS I think is the one. And I get it, you know, the whole streaming era changes the way music is released. You know, artists gotta play the game too. I get that. But I just wish this would have been a whole different thing on its own.

[Damaris]

So music is great, though, but how does it.

[Peach]

Because then it flows right into the original SOS So kind of like you still on this vibe of this new thing, this new energy that SZA's on. It's not completely foreign, though, to SOS no, it flows well with it. But, you know, I just want. I wanted to experience it as an entirely different thing.

[Damaris]

You were a whole new Scissor era.

[Peach]

A whole new. You know what I mean? I get it, though. I understand it. As far as, like, the sound and the music, it definitely goes together.

[Rory]

So why I think it's a properly named deluxe. It almost felt like disc two. Like this could have been a double album because it doesn't feel like a new SZA era. It felt like it was completing the SOS era. She had tweeted out. SOS equals hurt, Lana equals healing, which you can definitely hear in these records. I think some of these were probably done during SOS, some are new. SZA's pen is, in my opinion, one of. By far one of the best pens, period. And I think she's only getting better at writing, but as far as sonically and even the content, it feels like a completed SOS album. Like, this could have been a double disc. It doesn't feel like a completely new Sizza era. Like, I don't know if Lana. And this is coming from someone saying, I don't think she's incapable of making a bad song. I love this already.

[Peach]

Yeah.

[Rory]

I don't know if this could stand alone. It would Feel weird as just a SZA album. It's too connected to SOS in my opinion.

[Peach]

So you.

[Rory]

It's not. It's not a third project in that regard. I totally see outside of the new streaming rules and doing what's best for numbers. This does feel like the second disc of SOS rather than the way Control and SOS feel like completely different eras in SZA's life and even sonically differently. That Lana is too close to SOS I'd probably be giving her. Not because I do like it if this was a standalone.

[Damaris]

Because you feel like there's no growth or.

[Rory]

No, no, there's plenty of growth, especially in the writing and what she's talking about coming off sos I. I'm with her on that tweet. SOS hurt as fuck. This is not completed healing, but it's the start of that process and you can hear it in the content. But it is very much connected to SOS in that regard. I think the separate SZA album would be the healed version, not the I'm trying to start to heal coming off this. So I think it makes very much sense for it to be the SOS Deluxe. Because I'm sure. I mean, we don't know, but I'm sure there was a conversation in the studio, like, all right, I have 15 records. Like, this could just be another one. And it's been like, well, this isn't a new SZA era. This is the same era of coming out of horrible fucking choices and deciding that maybe I'm the problem and I should move on from the shit that I continue to do.

[Peach]

But why isn't it a new Scissor era? Why do you feel like it's not a new Scissor error?

[Rory]

Well, it's too attached to the stuff that she was dealing with on SOS it feels like the same conversation in a good way. Feels like a double disc to me. Okay, so I get it. And even sonically, too, it feels very sos like, she. She's really good at making completed songs. Also feel like demos in a good way, though. I don't know if that's going to sound like I'm hating, but she's with the SOS era. She made demos sound incredible, and that feels like this style as well.

[Peach]

How much of this you think she wrote during the whole, you know, sequencing and. And. And picking which songs were gonna go on the original sos vs how many new songs she wrote post sos?

[Rory]

The way she was talking how sos was done for a while before we got it, I think she probably just capped herself off with SOS and was still working. I think some of these were done during the exact same time, but some. I'm thinking she was. When we were listening to sos, she was still working.

[Mal]

I would argue most of these are from that SOS record because she said she recorded over 100 songs for SOS so I love.

[Peach]

I love the. The. The deluxe, though.

[Rory]

And even, like, I think sizzle would also run into the problem. Just thinking how, like, fans critique artists so much because the sound is so similar to SOS if she put this out, people would critique her and saying, oh, you're giving us more of the same.

[Damaris]

They would. They would. They would know that they were throw. Not throwaways, but they would. The fans listen too much. They'll be like, nah, you wrote these months ago. Yeah, like. Like this was done with. With SOS So I get what you're saying.

[Rory]

SZA does an incredible job. And let me not try to compare her to a man, because that's where the feminists start to hate me. So I won't. Justice is a compliment. She does an amazing job of making sure her words cut through and are above the instrumentals. And she's really good. And it's going to sound like hate, but it's not picking very simplistic production that makes sure her words shine.

[Mal]

Who does Hate?

[Rory]

Because she's such a good writer that sometimes you don't need busy beats that may sound like some. Somebody wants to hear Right now, the words are more important.

[Mal]

Who are you going to compare to? Frank?

[Rory]

Two. Two artists. Frank and Early Drake. Okay, Drake, I'll give 40 the credit. 40 was really good at making sure Drake's words cut through and were above the beat because what he was saying was so important. Let's. Let's do lo Fi instrumentals that are very, very simple in a good way. They hit they're fire, but simple because the words are what you should be following right now. SZA is incredible at doing that too. And she did it all over this one. She smoked this. I loved it from the first listen.

[Peach]

Do we think we get a entirely new SZA project before tour starts?

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Yes. Cause didn't she also say she announced, tweeted. She said, I'm putting out my deluxe and then expect a new album from me. So I think to Roy, your point, like, she's closing the loop on the SOS chapter. The next iteration of SZA will be the new version of her.

[Peach]

It will be.

[Mal]

Lana will be Lana fully.

[Peach]

Well, it's always Lana.

[Mal]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Rory]

But yeah, I think this album is incredible. Again, we've only had a day and a half to listen to it, but it's dope. It's been. Been on repeat. Chill Baby is my favorite. That pocket is nuts.

[Peach]

Chill Baby is crazy.

[Rory]

Crybaby I saw was a lot of people's favorite. Drive to me is fire. I see why that was the first video, but this is. It's dope. And I love the more accountability that closes up the SOS chapter. Prediction time with SZA in watching other new legends and what they've gone through the last 10 years without fans critique music, does she run into a similar problem that Drake did run into, where you've delivered so much with a specific sound for so long that people may start critiquing you for that exact sound?

[Peach]

I don't think that she'll run it. It's not. I wouldn't say a problem. I just think that it's. That sound is just what we know and love for. I think that that's dope. When artists are able to create that type of thing where you hear something, you hear a song you like that sounds like a blank record or a blank song, I think that there's nothing wrong. I don't think it's anything to critique there. I think that's just who she is. That's the type of music she makes. That's her. The zone that she's in. I think the music is just good music, man. I don't.

[Rory]

I don't care. I just know how fickle fans are. And the more you give them of great music, they will find a way to dislike it.

[Peach]

Like, oh, we heard the Sorority.

[Mal]

Yeah, I like the original version of this more.

[Peach]

Like, this sounds like a watered down.

[Mal]

Version of the first time.

[Rory]

And I don't know if that comes from a production level because I feel like Scissor Penwise has constantly evolved. Like, we get exactly who she is at every moment and she's grown as a writer in that regard. Content based, but production based is there. Does she give us her love below where everything goes completely left of what we've ever heard from her because control and sos yes, sonically they are different, but they're not drastically different. They're just both unique in their own right. But still, this is a sound that we love. The more you deliver great music like that, she doesn't have a bad album in her catalog.

[Peach]

Yeah.

[Rory]

If we're even considering Lana somewhat of a third project, I Could see her running into that.

[Peach]

No. Were you mad that we weren't in Seattle when this dropped?

[Rory]

Oh, no. I walked down in the snow.

[Mal]

Yo, it was snowing. I thought of you guys. It snowed. It was like rainy, snowy. That entire day came out. I was like, oh, this is like, yeah, basically what happened when SOS came out. Just the New York version.

[Peach]

She knows. She knows the people at NASA.

[Mal]

So just. Just because we love Mess and we always have to compare everybody to everyone is after this album. And now we have more from Sizza in terms of her compared to her contemporaries like Summer and like Ari and the women of her era. Where is she in that? Is she like, pulling away or like, what's that in terms of, like, ranking?

[Peach]

I think it's. That's not fair. Only because I think scissors sound is a little wider and more broad than a summer. Summer sound is very unique and very particular to a certain genre and certain type of person or woman. SZA sound, you know, you got young white teenage girls could sing some of these songs. You got, you know, older black women can sing these songs. Like, it's.

[Mal]

We keep bringing up Drake, but it's like she can fulfill. She serves a bunch of things.

[Peach]

She can serve a wider variety of. Of consumers to me.

[Damaris]

Oh, you guys talk about. Sorry, go ahead.

[Rory]

Which is so odd because, like, Summer's music to me is so polished in a good way that you would think that she would be more of the pop crossover. SZA to me, is a pop star in her own right. But I would have never guessed that moving in because so much of her sound down to her production is like lo Fi MF doom shit. Like, she's an underground rapper, pop artist, R and B singer. But it's so crazy. I love that that sound has made it into a crossover world. This shit is like mad lib shit.

[Damaris]

But it's for the same exact reason of what you just said. Yes, she does use those lo Fi beats, but it's so that her words can cut through. And in the conversation that we were just having about Taylor Swift earlier off mic, Taylor Swift's music and like Mal said, all of the audiences that it. When you do I'm a self hating, angsty teenage girl, shit, it will hit. And that's what SZA makes. SZA makes it, in my opinion, in a more talented way than Taylor Swift does. But it's the same kind of thing. Like, oh my God, I'm awkward and I'm weird and I like this cool guy and I don't Know what to do. And I'm toxic and I'm unhealed, and I'm gonna fuck him up, but I love him. And, like, I'm gonna be a hoe and that. Like, that what Taylor Swift makes, like, that's what SZA makes, just in a more palatable way.

[Rory]

Taylor Swift is like.

[Peach]

It's like, you know, the microwavable, like, pizza rolls. And SZA is like empanadas, like a good dip that the Spanish lady who.

[Damaris]

Speaks no English name.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Peach]

Like, you make the crust and you use the fork to get the ridges on the edge of the crust. Like, that's what sizza is.

[Rory]

And when it's served, Taylor's like, pizza rolls.

[Peach]

I gotta go right now. Throw those in. Boom, bam, bam. I'm out of here, you know, still good. It'll do the job. But it's kind of like, you know, if you can get a homemade empanada.

[Rory]

And it's served hot and the oil, like, burns your hand. The moment.

[Peach]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Through the paper.

[Peach]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Rory]

Like, why did I even bite that.

[Peach]

In the brown bag? You need that? Yeah, absolutely.

[Rory]

But, yeah, I mean, I guess, to answer your question, SZA's had a longer time. I feel like to do more of the crossover thing, but I. Summer still has her classic album. I think over it is a classic and did cross over. I think both of them stick to exactly who they are. And to your point, Damaris, I think SZA might be a little bit more palatable and relatable to the masses than, say, a summer would. But I still think they're both like, the big two of R B and both incredibly talented. Both have classics. They're just. They're different R B artists. To me, Summer's a bit more traditional, which these days, unfortunately, traditional R and B is tougher to cut through. Yeah. But, I mean, Summer still has pop joints that go.

[Peach]

I know for sure.

[Rory]

So, yeah, I don't. I don't really know if I can answer that question as far.

[Mal]

Yeah, maybe it's too early. Bring that up.

[Rory]

Sizzle by numbers. Yes, I would say that. But let's not act like, didn't Summer sell fucking, like, 400,000 on Alaska or some shit?

[Peach]

Some shit only her and Beyonce did at the time or something like that, which was crazy.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Rory]

But I mean, I think R B is in an amazing place if those two women are the face of it.

[Peach]

So, I mean, politics. If they ever decide to have a show together, I'll be there.

[Damaris]

We know.

[Rory]

It's so funny you went to Summer's first Toronto show.

[Peach]

Absolutely.

[Rory]

I think there was 100 people.

[Peach]

No, no, it was more than 100 people in there. It was definitely more than 100 people.

[Damaris]

And you was rocking with. With Summer even when she was being, you know, ridiculed because she didn't know how to perform.

[Peach]

So, man, that. That. That's. What was this. Over it.

[Damaris]

Over it?

[Peach]

Yeah, over it over in Toronto, man. That was. That. That show. Yeah.

[Rory]

I thought it was the first one when we, like, we all went up.

[Peach]

The first one. It is.

[Damaris]

The first one over is 2009.

[Rory]

I'm talking about what's the EPS. I can see the COVID in my head.

[Damaris]

So over is the first one still over is the second one. Are you talking about clear?

[Rory]

Yes.

[Peach]

No, it was over it.

[Rory]

I'm saying clear. We went to Bowery Ballroom for that.

[Peach]

Oh, yeah.

[Rory]

For Clear.

[Peach]

Yeah.

[Rory]

We've been on Summer.

[Peach]

Oh, yeah.

[Rory]

Like three records.

[Peach]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I was over in Toronto. Oh, my God.

[Mal]

I went to. When SZA came Chicago during the Control tour. She did Lincoln. Lincoln hall in Chicago. I went to that show, and somewhere Smino was the opener. Summer Sza.

[Peach]

Okay.

[Mal]

So I saw the control. She did all the control. And then I didn't know who SME was at the time. It was the Black Swan, Smeato, and he went up there as the opener. Everyone, the crowd's like, oh, this dude is ill. And then, like, you know, he's from St. Louis, like, Chicago, so they all. More. More people knew him there than I did. But that was. That was one of those shows. I was like, I don't really know these artists. And I saw both of them. I was like, this is adapt. They're good.

[Peach]

Good.

[Rory]

Isn't it always refreshing when you get, like, a good opener? When you're sitting there, like, waiting in line for a drink and it's crowdy like, all right, come on, where's the headliner? Oh, okay.

[Damaris]

This is refreshing.

[Rory]

Yeah, I could rock with this. This is cool. What's his ig?

[Peach]

Yeah.

[Mal]

And I love an opener where the genre is slightly different than the headline because you can kind of serve. Like, I get my fix of my rap and then. All right, sweet. When it's time for, like, SZA just did Control, I'm like, this is nice. You get a nice mix of. Instead of the opener. Usually just sounds like a less successful version of the headliner.

[Rory]

When was the last time that happened with you guys with an opener? That was really, really good.

[Mal]

Didn't you have one?

[Damaris]

Yes.

[Mal]

Yeah. What was that?

[Damaris]

Guy's name, remember his name and that's gonna bother me.

[Peach]

But yeah, which show was it?

[Damaris]

A Keanu Lade show?

[Peach]

Okay.

[Damaris]

He had a really. She had a really good opener. His name starts with a T. He's gonna kill me because I think he listens to this podcast, but yeah, he's.

[Rory]

Gonna kill you really good. Last time I went to Wiley's show at Irving Plaza this year and I mean, he's the opener, is sort of well known artist. Like he just put a song out with James Blake, but it's still very much on the come up. Suave is incredible. He won an entire crowd over. Cause that shit was packed like this. They oversold. You could see the crowd was getting antsy. And he. That's an art to control a bunch of people that don't know who the fuck you are with your music. He smoked that.

[Peach]

Oh, you know what? There was an artist at Nick Grant's show here in New York. Damn, he was incredible. I meant to get his. His music and send it to you because I know you would like him. Okay, hold on.

[Rory]

To this day, the greatest opener I ever saw that I was like, this guy's a fucking superstar. We brought him up a few episodes ago. Bob had no idea who the fuck he was. He was opening up for Quali and Little Brother at the time. Best Buy Theater.

[Peach]

Wow.

[Rory]

Or before it was Best Buy, whatever the it was. It's what, PlayStation now or some. Yeah, he won a whole crowd over. This was before he had any hits. I think he had written the TI and ludicrous hook and he performed that. I was like, oh, I've heard this before. And then he brought his guitar out. He. It was the best opening set I've ever seen in my life. Then he ended up getting the double XL cover. And I was like, oh, yeah, this makes sense. This guy's a fucking star. Bob, by far, greatest opener.

[Mal]

He's not like super small, but I just came across a while ago, a friend I drinks with, works with him. This kid Gene Dawson, he has this album called Glimmer of God. It's the best way to say the next Tizo Touchdown. Okay, super good. Like Eclectic. It's pop. There's guitar riffs, there's rap. Like it's very. It's fun. Like there's a lot going on in a good way.

[Rory]

Yeah. Saw this guy, K dot rap in the SOB's crowd after a J rock show. That was kind of cool. He turned out to be okay.

[Mal]

What year was that?

[Rory]

2009.

[Mal]

Damn.

[Peach]

Isaiah Stone.

[Rory]

No, maybe fall 2008.

[Peach]

That's his name. He opened for Nick.

[Rory]

Isaiah Stone.

[Peach]

Isaiah Stone. Talented, incredible. His story, his life story is incredible. If you haven't heard of Isaiah Stone, definitely get in tune with his music. He's an incredible artist.

[Rory]

Also, that. This was years ago, I think Benny's first SOB show. That was completely. The fire marshal should have been there.

[Peach]

He had sobs.

[Rory]

He. It was Benny's like, first real. Like, Benny's the next guy. We were even on the old pod. This is a long time ago. We all went. That shit was packed. He had about 15 openers. That would usually annoy the fuck out of me. Every person came up and was incredible. I was like, all right, man, this is better than the fucking show.

[Damaris]

While stove got open.

[Rory]

I don't think Stove. God did. It was actually a lot of kids from, like, Far Rockaway. It wasn't all just upstate guys, but that was another time. I can remember all the openers being incredible, but, you know, I don't know how we got down.

[Mal]

No, this is at 19.

[Damaris]

Everybody paused the phone. You be doing rap show hostings?

[Rory]

Oh, I was front row. Just cause mom was hosting.

[Peach]

I did. I hosted.

[Rory]

Benny came out with a new jacket, too. I've never seen that jacket.

[Damaris]

What's your host?

[Peach]

Swag?

[Mal]

How long was the coat? I know you had a long coat.

[Rory]

It was. It was a long show.

[Peach]

No, it was many show. It was a Highline Ballroom.

[Damaris]

Yeah, you came out and said what you said.

[Peach]

No, it was Sony. Sony Hall. I don't remember. I don't know. That was high.

[Rory]

If I remember correctly, you didn't really say much. They had openers. And then you came out and just like introduced Benny, and I think, yeah, we all.

[Damaris]

That seems like something I would do.

[Peach]

I cracked a couple jokes. You know, I got some jokes off. But then, you know you're looking at a bunch of niggas from Buffalo. You're like, you know what? I'm gonna go ahead and get to the back, let y'all listen to Benny. Let me get out y'all way. I don't want to disturb you beautiful people in here tonight.

[Rory]

Yeah, that was a bitch.

[Damaris]

It wasn't no bitches in there.

[Peach]

It was a couple. You'd be surprised it was a couple in there.

[Damaris]

They belong to some people.

[Peach]

Well, they was there with their man, their boyfriend, you know. You know, it's the same with us. When girls come to the show. We'd be like, we're sorry. We know. You don't know who we Are we just disturbed your house every week, but, you know, thank you for coming. That type of vibe.

[Rory]

All right, we can get into this Shamik Moore situation, which I walked in thinking Damaris was going to be on 10 about this and she hadn't even heard about it yet. So Shamik Moore, who does the voice for Spider man, whatever that series is, the spider verse also played Raekwon in the Wu Tang series, which I thought he was great in.

[Peach]

I wasn't let them in the get up on Netflix, Craig. Get up.

[Rory]

I was not aware that he was moving crazy on these sets. Not crazy like Matt Lauer crazy.

[Peach]

What did he do, man? He put up a picture, left it up after the young lady asked him to take it down.

[Mal]

It was a video.

[Rory]

Put up a video that was alluding that they may be together. And I guess there was also reports of him not like hitting on her on some nasty shit before, but he's been alluding to this romance for some time. And this woman, can we get her name?

[Mal]

Because she's a great actress, isn't it? Laura Harrier.

[Rory]

She was great in Black Klansmen. And yeah, she's amazing. She came on, ate a whole bowl of soup in one TikTok video and explained that she's engaged. I asked him to take that video down. You're trying to insinuate something. I'm not comfortable with it. Take it down. He left it up. Then he came back on, put his hand over his face and was like, nah, it's a misunderstanding. You edited that whole video by yourself and put the music on it. You know what you was doing?

[Peach]

The weird thing that I didn't understand. What Shamik did was deleting his social media. Like, what is it? I didn't think this was that serious to delete your social media. Like, I cool. You left something up. It looks the type of way the actress, you know, posted a video, called.

[Damaris]

You a fucking weirdo.

[Peach]

Called you a weirdo. All right, cool. But delete all your social media. But that's not strange with that.

[Damaris]

I don't think it's strange to delete.

[Peach]

Your social media for that. Now when he did something and like, assaulted her, then I could understand that.

[Rory]

Like, I'm not saying that or putting that on his jacket, but for a woman that does not do that type of social media shit, for her to make that video, I think there's more that we don't really know about. And that was her warning of saying, yo, I told him to take it down. He needs to take it Down. I think that was her. We could go here if you really want to. And his response was, well heard you loud and clear. Let me delete all my social media before you tell the world what happened.

[Damaris]

I don't even think Rory. I think you put too much into it.

[Peach]

I'm not jacking.

[Damaris]

You're free to do that. But I think that he just. He's getting a bunch of backlash. And instead of dealing with the back because you could just like Ma used to say my, like just get off your phone. You could just delete your social media app so that you're not. You don't have to deal with all of that backlash from all of these people commenting shit. Or if you deactivate, you don't have to go and delete all those comments because if I delete my social media, people still have access to comment. A bunch of shit. So now people. People are going on your social media who might not even know about what the is going on. And everybody's calling you all types of creep weirdo rapists.

[Peach]

Yeah, but this.

[Rory]

Well, that's unfair. But to call him a.

[Peach]

A rapist. They're calling him that.

[Damaris]

I'm not calling him that. Yeah, y'all know how the Internet works, right?

[Peach]

No, but I'm saying this is that. Are they actively calling him that right now?

[Damaris]

People are weird. People say all types of things.

[Peach]

That's crazy. If they doing that. That's wild.

[Damaris]

People. People say all types of.

[Peach]

But here's why I don't understand that. Because deleting your social media, like, does what? Like, what is that? So you're gonna come back and act like you know nothing never had. Like, I don't think this is that serious.

[Damaris]

I think people just need a break. It's. He's embarrassed. He's probably humiliated because you did some lame shit.

[Peach]

Yeah, but that shit happens for 20, 24 hours. Trump got shot. He didn't even make the list Shamika make.

[Damaris]

I'm sure he'll be back soon. But he deleted it. He doesn't want people commenting. I'm sure he doesn't want people commenting a bunch of shit on his page. And he's embarrassed and he's gonna take a break from social media. I think that more people should take breaks from social media.

[Peach]

Take a break, but don't delete your social media.

[Damaris]

I also think always reactivated if you're not.

[Peach]

But I'm just. I just. That's just crowd. No, that's. To me, that's just that. That's the weird shit I think deleting your social media, like, I think the.

[Rory]

Weird shit is the non deleting of if my co worker asked me, hey, I'm engaged. Can you take that?

[Peach]

She said, delete the. The picture. Not your whole. She has to delete the picture because.

[Rory]

He didn't listen to his co worker being like, hey, that makes me uncomfortable. And I think you're sending a wrong message. I'm engaged. I'm uncomfortable with this. This type of post that you didn't even ask me you could do.

[Peach]

Okay, what was the post?

[Rory]

And he doesn't take it down.

[Peach]

What was the point?

[Rory]

He should have deleted that or he wouldn't have to delete his social media. We wouldn't have even known about this.

[Peach]

What was the post?

[Mal]

I can't find the original.

[Peach]

What was like inappropriate on the post?

[Mal]

This right here, Moss. It was them at like some red carpet or some event and someone, they took a picture. Someone's filming them and they're like, you know, they're close to each other.

[Peach]

So they're at an event on a red carpet and somebody took a picture laughing, smiling.

[Mal]

It looks like it could be misconstrued as intimate.

[Damaris]

So somebody was. They were on a red carpet taking a picture together. Somebody took a. Filmed a video of them taking the picture and he put like some sensual R and B music behind the video and posted coming soon. And then the video was from like years ago. Like that happened like a year and a half, two years ago.

[Rory]

Yeah, it was weird. I saw the video. It definitely felt, even objectively knowing what the context was because I don't like follow him or kept up with it. I saw the video before. It was. Everything was taken down. Yeah, it felt like that. It felt fucking weird. If I was. If I'm sitting there with my fiance and I see your co worker post a video like that, I'd be like, yo, what the fuck is this? It was weird. That's odd.

[Damaris]

And like, when she asked him to take it out and he didn't take it down, it's like, why would you. First of all, why would you post it anyway? And then why would you not take it down when I asked you to take it down?

[Rory]

Let's even say it was all innocent and he just has a bad ear for music and how it makes people feel and what it looks like. Cool. If your co worker asked you to take it down and you're clearly showing how close you guys are, you should immediately delete it. I don't think that's really a complication.

[Damaris]

They'Re very obviously not that close, for sure.

[Rory]

But he was implying.

[Peach]

So they took a picture together because a movie that they're in is coming out.

[Mal]

Yeah, she's also. She's also an actress in the Spider verse stuff.

[Damaris]

But that was two years ago when originally dropped. Remember when Metro did, like, the soundtrack and it went crazy. That was like, two years ago.

[Peach]

And so he just recently posted that picture saying, coming soon.

[Rory]

Two days. Yeah, three days ago.

[Damaris]

Posted a video with sexy music behind it.

[Peach]

Is the Spidey verse coming back?

[Mal]

Yeah, probably.

[Peach]

Is he wrong? It's not coming back.

[Mal]

It's just like. But you also.

[Rory]

I'm sure he. They would have done something from the studio when an announcement. Before he did some shit, he edited himself on his couch.

[Peach]

I think I'm agreeing with Rory to an extent. I think it's something else. I think there may be, like, text messages or, you know, something along that line. Or maybe, you know, she's attractive and he, you know, probably flirted a little bit and, you know, so I get that part.

[Damaris]

I also think her fiance is on her ass about it and. Cause that's what she kept saying. I'm about to be married. I'm about to be married. I think her fiance probably was like, yo, what the fuck is this? And when you got somebody at home.

[Rory]

I think she was probably like, what the fuck is this? As well.

[Damaris]

No, for sure.

[Rory]

And now you gotta deal with your partner when you didn't even do shit. Like, now this looks odd. They're gonna have questions no matter what. Like.

[Damaris]

And on top of that, y'all acting like y'all starring in a movie where it's like, it's y'all. Y'all voice acting people ain't even know it was y'all behind.

[Peach]

I'm about to say, can we keep it a hundred for one second? I would have never saw this post if she. We didn't. They didn't talk about that. I would have never saw that picture with him.

[Rory]

But again.

[Damaris]

Well, he's big. Shamika is pretty big.

[Mal]

They said he's the only Spider man that can't get.

[Damaris]

Yeah, they were saying that before this, though, right?

[Mal]

Yeah, because this is the thing. Mall. This isn't the first co star that he's tried to, like, make it advance on and. And openly flirt with. Hailee Sign. Steinfeld is another girl who's actually just got engaged last month to Josh Allen. So she's all right. And he's, you know, made passes at her a bunch in. In interviews in Press runs and all in that Internet narrative kind of started with him being a creep with her. So then him seeing him do it again with another actress that he works with. People like, dude, what are you doing? Both of these women are engaged in loving relationships, and you're just like, the creepy guy at work that's like, yo, thank.

[Rory]

Thank God. The Wu Tang saga was about 15 men. No issues on that.

[Peach]

You don't think. You don't think. He hit Daviest Up. It was like, yo, wanna try and get some piff?

[Rory]

He would say, piff.

[Peach]

Shamik definitely hit Davis. Say, yo, you ain't got no piff.

[Rory]

We should rehearse lines together. You know, meth and Ray are close.

[Peach]

Like, see, Dave ain't going to the Internet. Dave gonna be like, yo, where you at? I'm coming to punch.

[Mal]

Oh, I finally found the video. Jesus, it took forever. All right, here we go. Ignore the text on the video because that's not a part of it. Oh, well, that's also not the original.

[Rory]

Video, audio, or the music. So that's. Yeah, but either way.

[Mal]

But that's the video. It's like, sexy R B music and them, like, staring at each other of.

[Rory]

People not knowing about this. I wouldn't have known about it either. But let's not act like the Internet doesn't have certain bubbles. Like, there's plenty of shit within our bubble that if I asked a regular person on the street, they'd be like, I had no idea that was even going on. But when you're in your own bubble of hundreds of thousands of people, it becomes a thing for your personal life. Just because everyone else didn't know about it doesn't mean your bubble didn't know about it. Yeah, and that can be weird. So she's gonna get on there while she's eating soup, which is, like, one of my pet peeves.

[Peach]

Was it super full?

[Damaris]

It was okay.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

It's faux, but okay. So uncultured. I. I get why she did it. I'm about to be married. Stop insinuating things.

[Mal]

Just trying to get married to a French guy.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Peach]

I ain't gonna lie, man. You gotta. You gotta relax, bro. Talented. I like. I like him, though.

[Mal]

Oh, my God.

[Rory]

Peach is asking for his live Ebony magazine cover, which was sick, but I don't blame him for that. That was. Whoever directed. That was. This is crab. You seen this yet? Out the gate. It's hilarious.

[Mal]

That's a star.

[Damaris]

Oh, my God.

[Rory]

No, but this. I'm sticking up for him, man. Oh, this is why Directors are important because if you're just on a white cycle with a curtain, you know, they were just telling him, like, yo, do some wavy with your hands. And he just was like, all right.

[Mal]

I guess they're like, we promise we'll make it look cool. Cool in post.

[Rory]

Yeah. Like, oh, it's a tight shot. Don't worry. Meanwhile, it's just you doing this with.

[Peach]

A long white do rag on.

[Rory]

I think he has a scullion. And there's a. A curtain.

[Peach]

That's a do rag.

[Mal]

That is.

[Rory]

Oh, no, that's a cur. That's a curtain around his head.

[Peach]

That's a curtain that he turned into a durag fam.

[Mal]

What?

[Rory]

That would be a curtain.

[Mal]

What is this move?

[Rory]

It's not. It's not a durat. He's taking this thing to another level.

[Mal]

That's maul. Could we do. Could we do a live cover art of Just make him Maul?

[Rory]

We should do a moving cover art because we do have the white side.

[Mal]

Yeah. Can we.

[Rory]

I can go get a curtain. We're in the right neighborhood.

[Damaris]

It's so funny.

[Peach]

No, we're all slammed.

[Rory]

No, we're not. It's the holidays. We can do it.

[Mal]

Damn, that is a crazy video.

[Peach]

Fuck you, man. I fuck you. I like to get down, man. Don't do shamek like that.

[Rory]

I like to get down, too. It tried to do a lot, but it was. It was a good show.

[Peach]

Yeah, Great show.

[Rory]

It was kung fu romance, hip hop. It was gangs. It was all over the place.

[Peach]

All the shit I love, all the shit I love.

[Rory]

But the Wu Tang series. I'm mad. That ended like, he was great as Raekwon.

[Peach]

Yeah. No, that was another great series.

[Rory]

I wish they would bring that back and just keep going.

[Peach]

Yeah, just give us, like. Like, personal stories from each member. Like, give us the Ghostface series, the.

[Rory]

Race series, and I mean, all of them ended up being great in it. Like, even the gentleman that played rza as the seasons went, like, his. His RZA impression got crazier. But how else are you supposed to imitate? That's how RZA sounds. Yeah, of course it's gonna sound weird when someone else does it.

[Peach]

Yeah.

[Rory]

But do we have voicemails? You've got mail.

[Mal]

We do. Before we do today's voicemails, I wanted to bring up our. Our guy Jack at Free Range Wine and spirits.

[Rory]

Oh, there's an update.

[Mal]

We had so many listeners go to his business. Shout out to everybody. Single person, one star review.

[Peach]

Shout out to Mandy. Yo, Mandy. I Told you he was gonna ride for you.

[Mal]

Everyone is just jumping on. Jack seems like a douchebag new Orion Ball listener. So this is amazing. Thank you, everybody. Just keep going. Jack run it up during the holidays.

[Rory]

Like, yo, we've seen Jack clap back though. Let's not celebrate now because he made comments to the new Royal Mall listener and smoke our podcast. He might tell us about ourselves.

[Mal]

Like, remember that one guy that did the ad breakdown?

[Rory]

Oh, yeah. We got him the out of here. He looked. He looked like death on his day off. I wasn't.

[Damaris]

He. He did kind of smoke you. You got him back though. But he was smoking. I'm not gonna lie.

[Rory]

I cleaned him up.

[Mal]

Remember the guy podcast.

[Rory]

That's big. But they.

[Peach]

Oh, yeah. Yeah.

[Rory]

The real win was all his whole team emailing me constantly after I flagged the for copyright.

[Peach]

Right. Yeah.

[Rory]

Like trying to tell their case. Nah, suck a dick. It's cool.

[Peach]

It's cool. Saying it's cool after suck a dick.

[Mal]

It's cool.

[Rory]

It's cool. But once. Once it wanted to go to YouTube trial. I settled. I let it go.

[Peach]

Okay. Yeah.

[Rory]

I just wanted them to lose views for that 10 days. Almost two weeks.

[Peach]

Yeah.

[Rory]

And what was so great about it? When you went to the video, it said copywritten with our llc.

[Peach]

Good.

[Mal]

Yeah, that was funny anyway. But yeah, I just wanted to bring that up again. That shout out to everybody that left a comment that is that hilarious.

[Rory]

No, that was last year, right?

[Mal]

What did you call him? You called him some cartoon?

[Peach]

No, that was Max.

[Mal]

Max Headman.

[Peach]

That was last year, right?

[Rory]

Jimmy Neutron.

[Peach]

That was last year.

[Mal]

That was last blamed him.

[Peach]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Max Headroom.

[Rory]

There was a lot of headroom.

[Peach]

Yeah, y'all.

[Rory]

Was up was. It wasn't us roasting, it was Peach. Just kept making his forehead bigger as the clip went.

[Mal]

I gotta find that clip. All right, let's help this person with their brother with their liquor store issues.

[Anonymous Caller]

Love the pod. Appreciate all the entertainment you put out, especially Damaris. But I'd like to remain anonymous. I'm calling for some sibling advice.

[Mal]

Wonder why he loves.

[Anonymous Caller]

Basically my sister's husband found was on her laptop and was searching something up on Reddit and found that the account signed in was my brother's account with his own personal Gmail. But he was following a bunch of porn pages on there and he was posting his nudes to them.

[Rory]

Nice.

[Anonymous Caller]

And his face wasn't in it, but his body and his tattoo was. And we were just feeling really concerned about, like if an employer were to see that or the Fact that it was just so easily findable on the Internet. And also me living with him. He has some sexual tendencies that I could see could be problematic, especially dating back to like when he was a minor and things. And we still have a pretty traditional and religious background.

[Rory]

You can't just say that and not tell us what those compromising sexual activities were, especially as a minor.

[Mal]

Well, let's finish this because I do. I'm not going to play the second one, but I have a little more context we can provide.

[Anonymous Caller]

Ron and you guys, I know, have more sexually progressive background. So I was wondering, do you guys think this is something worth bringing up? I personally am just like very concerned for him because all his tendencies aren't necessarily healthy to me. But we don't want to like, bring this up in a way that would make him uncomfortable. So how do you guys think we should approach this conversation? And do you think we're dragging it by bringing it up in the first place?

[Rory]

What's the other.

[Peach]

He said we got sexually progressive backgrounds that he just calls horse.

[Rory]

Oh, I thought he called us gay.

[Mal]

I mean, that's why you. Okay, can I do the context first? All right, so he said in high school, someone threatened to extort him because he sent someone nudes while he was in high school. And the person threatened to extort him. And he said after that incident he'd stop, but obviously he didn't. And then he was also sending him. When he was a minor, he was sending his nudes to adults. So that's could possibly be what he's referring to. And he said his sex.

[Peach]

What do you mean he was sending his nudes to adults?

[Mal]

Like he was in. When he was in high school, he was probably sending nudes to like a 25 year old or like what did those PDF files.

[Rory]

I never go after dick. Children.

[Peach]

So he was in high school sending nudes.

[Mal]

Older people, not men. I don't know if this guy's into men or women.

[Rory]

It was To Catch a Predator.

[Peach]

You don't know if this guy's into Not.

[Mal]

Not our caller, his brother. Okay, I can. Yeah. Here.

[Rory]

How do you extort a high school student?

[Mal]

You see, well, if I. If we're dating in high school and I send you nudes, and then we have a bad breakup and you're like it. I'm sharing the news with the whole high school. People do that all the time.

[Damaris]

Give me money.

[Rory]

I know, but what, like, what do you think the price amount for extortion in high school is?

[Peach]

Probably like 300-403- packs of smokes.

[Mal]

Yeah. I was gonna say, like, what do you trade it? What's the value?

[Rory]

When I was in high school, more dudes.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Peach]

Backwoods and an ounce.

[Rory]

Some really unfortunate happened to a girl in my high school. My freshman year, someone printed out. Which is crazy in retrospect. Like, times when you would. Would download emails and, like, print things out. Printed out three of her nudes and made copies and threw them shits. Like, yeah, that. In retrospect, I was really up. I feel bad. Girls high, because, like, everyone saw her and, like, she was a freshman.

[Damaris]

Oh, she had out in High School, 14 years old. It used to be like a little bra and panty pics.

[Rory]

Like, no, no.

[Damaris]

Out is crazy.

[Peach]

Remember the first nude you got like, full, like, like, of course, bush, everything.

[Mal]

Bush is crazy.

[Rory]

It wasn't in the seventies.

[Peach]

Yeah, I remember the first nude.

[Rory]

I got ten years. It was. It wasn't bush. I mean, there was some hair there, but it was not a bush. She wasn't waxed because that'd be crazy for a high school girl to get waxed.

[Damaris]

I think they. I'm gonna. If my daughter wants to get waxed when she's in high school, I'm gonna take her.

[Peach]

Well, now that's, like, probably. Now that's probably.

[Damaris]

Yeah, that was a big, like, controversy thing where, like, people were, like, getting on moms for that. But, like, I completely understand because I was shaving when I was in high school, and shaving comes with a whole bunch of bullshit that you shouldn't have to do. And it's just like, wax is not a sexual thing. Like, girls have to wear bikinis. You can't be the hairy in high school. During swimming.

[Rory]

04 to 08. That no high school girls getting a wax was not swimming in high school. I didn't see a completely wax box till college. Probably.

[Peach]

Yeah. Swimming in high school.

[Rory]

No.

[Peach]

You guys swim in high school?

[Mal]

Yeah, we did have a. I didn't do it.

[Peach]

That must be an upstate thing.

[Damaris]

Yeah, well, we have pools.

[Peach]

Yeah. Niggas down here wasn't jumping in a pool between third and fourth period.

[Mal]

Yeah, I never did.

[Peach]

And then shaking.

[Rory]

Going to another class is chlorine all over your fucking body.

[Damaris]

You definitely smell like chlorine.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Peach]

What is that about? That is so school is stupid when you think about it.

[Rory]

Like, think, I still don't know how to school.

[Peach]

I'm supposed to leave this math class, rush to the gym, change it to my swim clothes, jump in the pool for 37 minutes, get out Dry off and then make it to algebra.

[Mal]

I gotta shower, then go to chemistry.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Peach]

What the fuck is that?

[Rory]

Nobody showered. Like, there are people that have gym first period and no one would shower. You had, like, gym clothes that you changed and then you put your regular clothes back on.

[Mal]

Yeah, that body funk body spray era.

[Rory]

Locker room smoke so much.

[Peach]

Oh, my God, my locker room was so. Oh, it was some stink. You uptown was stinking.

[Rory]

Yeah. Even like football, nobody really watched their practice. Like, oh, it was a permanent stinking smell.

[Damaris]

The teenage. Teenage boy is the worst smell I've ever seen.

[Peach]

Oh, yeah.

[Rory]

Puberty boy.

[Peach]

G just G. Theo Von said, all black people smell like deodorant.

[Mal]

I saw that clip.

[Rory]

Theon is hilarious.

[Peach]

Yo, y'all don't know how hard I laughed at that.

[Mal]

Didn't he say that to Drew, which is awesome.

[Rory]

No, the.

[Peach]

It was funny cuz the Von. No, we don't some is around here stinking. But I understood what he was saying.

[Damaris]

Like.

[Peach]

All black people smell like deodorant.

[Rory]

They had that Drew Ski episode going viral again of when they were talking to Roadside Willie and they were asking if, like, a girl from a rival team came to suck his dick, would he, like, forget about the tide? And the ovon was like, what if somebody from Texas A and M. Big old titties. They look like two pit bulls ready to chew on your cock. I was like, what the fuck? Drew Ski got up and walked away.

[Mal]

Right, Here we go to that.

[Peach]

For real, cuz.

[Rory]

I like you smelled the cologne I had on when I came in there.

[Mal]

I don't know.

[Rory]

You guys smell good.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Peach]

I feel like you're so full of.

[Anonymous Caller]

Really?

[Mal]

Yeah. No, you guys smelled good, man.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Rory]

What do we smell like when we walk out?

[Mal]

Honestly, I usually think it's like a lot of deodorant.

[Peach]

Wow.

[Rory]

Yeah. No, black people do wear a lot of deodorant. Deodorant. Somebody started.

[Peach]

We have started to put that on.

[Rory]

Somebody put that on so slow.

[Peach]

Starting at the wrist to put on deodorant.

[Rory]

He went down to his hip.

[Peach]

Cuz.

[Damaris]

Black people o. They be.

[Peach]

Nah, you know what that come from? That come from one. One day being young, being out and your shits was kind of a little bit. And you get caught out there like, yo, you stink. You funky. A little scar you for life. You ain't gonna never let that happen again.

[Rory]

What happened with Speed Stick? Did that get recalled? That was like Speed Stick. I felt like I was balling the green. Yeah.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Peach]

That was a terrible time. Speedstick I lost Speed Stick.

[Rory]

I'm sure if I smelt it, like, you know, certain smells bring you right back to a time. If I could smell Speed Stick right now, it would take me right back. I would get to a gym locker room.

[Peach]

Smelling Speed Stick for me is like me smelling 99 bananas mix mixed with that.

[Rory]

That. The orange ax. Whatever the orange circle was.

[Mal]

I forgot these in years.

[Damaris]

Oh, this Discontinued. Damn. That brings back.

[Peach]

Oh, man. Speed Stick.

[Damaris]

My dad used to.

[Rory]

Oh, my dad is.

[Peach]

And how much deodorant are we using? We got to put rubber grips on the side of it.

[Rory]

And you would grip it and it would, like, crumble.

[Peach]

Yeah, rub on that like it's a Glock.

[Rory]

No, that would crumble into, like, crack rocks once it hits your arm.

[Mal]

That shit is amazing. Oh, my God. Look at it. Yo, you ever lick it? What? What? No, cuz, like, it looked all right. Hear me out.

[Peach]

I don't want to hear you out. You eat deodorant.

[Mal]

Not eating it. Not eating it. I'm talking about when you. When you fresh open it. Open brand new. Not after you've been using it for a year. And then it's like, clean and shiny and smooth. You never just, like, put your tongue on it?

[Peach]

No, I've never done that.

[Mal]

You've never.

[Peach]

I've never licked Yoda.

[Mal]

Someone listening has done this.

[Peach]

And I'm waiting for someone listening has done it. But we know this.

[Mal]

We eat ass. You think licking us, putting a little tongue, a little bit of deodorant, like, that's not that way.

[Peach]

I think.

[Rory]

I think the ass I eat doesn't look like Speed stickers.

[Peach]

Yeah, very clean and very, like, you know, well kept. Yeah.

[Mal]

I don't know. It's like people that used to. You guys never tried Play doh? It's the same thing.

[Peach]

Like, it's a. I'm a grown man.

[Mal]

Not in your 40s.

[Peach]

No, but I'm saying I was. I was in high school putting on deodorant. I wasn't licking it. I was a kid playing with Play D'oh. I didn't know any better. I don't think you should lick deodorant.

[Rory]

My pops had the quintessential white man smell. Old Spice and Gold bond together.

[Peach]

Oh, my God.

[Rory]

That's when you know, smell my pops from.

[Peach]

You can smell from.

[Rory]

I'm inside. I can smell him. He's outside in the driveway.

[Peach]

Dad's on the way.

[Mal]

Remember these bottles? I used to have one of these. The. The bottle Bottle. The og.

[Rory]

I remember those.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Peach]

Old Spice.

[Mal]

Yeah, I would think that's still in my parents house.

[Rory]

Probably in football, like when chafing would happen. Not the yellow gold Bond, the green one, the extra man, I would be running around my crib like Freddie Mercury when that hit my tank.

[Mal]

Tank.

[Damaris]

Don't piss me off.

[Mal]

That was a lovely.

[Rory]

The green one was crazy. The yellow one was cool. That, that did the trick. But the green ones, when you had like severe, like, like two a days chafing. Yeah, it would cure it in one night, but boy, did you have to. You paid for it.

[Mal]

This detour we've taken, we didn't help this kid at all.

[Damaris]

What's.

[Rory]

Mom, stop. We're still getting back.

[Damaris]

While you're from the Bronx and I'm sure you mess with a lot of Spanish women. What's the. What's the limisol.

[Peach]

Let me soul, bro. Let me.

[Damaris]

So I was dating a guy and.

[Peach]

I used some of that. One time in a girl shower, my ass was clean for 72 hours, bro.

[Damaris]

This stuff, I wanted to try it. I was like, I had to be like 22 or something to 21. And I was dating this guy and his mother was Puerto Rican. And I had all. I'm like, what is this? Like, they always talk about this. Whatever. I use that when I tell you. I felt like someone has shoved a peppermint up my pussy.

[Rory]

That crazy. Go Bond did too.

[Peach]

Somebody was blowing in your. In your butt smell like. Somebody felt like somebody was blowing wind in your butt.

[Damaris]

It was.

[Mal]

I hate that feeling.

[Peach]

I love it.

[Mal]

Ah, that like cools. I don't like that.

[Damaris]

The clean pine still on your ass.

[Mal]

It's not clean.

[Damaris]

That peppermint Dr. Bronner's that y'all use with y'all sick asses makes you feel like that too. I don't even know the peppermint patty.

[Rory]

Yeah, but like the severe one does that. Not the regular one, which I had to stop because again, it's like you clean floors. I'm not cleaning my balls with that.

[Peach]

Yeah, I'm cool. Just give me Dove some real west vibe.

[Mal]

Dove's the best.

[Rory]

Women, like first generation or born there and moved to New York. Stop rubbing Vicks all over your titties. They would just have Vicks just here. Well, they got a chest pole and gold Bond too.

[Peach]

He was just sick.

[Rory]

You know, it's just a tradition to go to sleep. And some of the bigger West Indian women would put gold Bond on their chest so they wouldn't sweat all day. Yeah, it was. I mean, I still Beat fix when.

[Peach]

You not when you're not sick on your chest is crazy.

[Rory]

It didn't stop me. It just. There was areas I.

[Damaris]

The girls. It's a whole thing on Tick Tock. The girls. Now all the old, like, things are coming back. The girls are now dusting themselves with powder again. Remember you back when your grandmother used to dust. Oh, y'all are men. So y'all don't really know. Y'all don't know. Women back in the day used to dust themselves with powder. So, like, baking powder used to have to be under the titties, under the arms, in between the thighs. But we stopped doing it because Johnson and Johnson was giving us all uterine cancer.

[Rory]

And I'm telling you, it didn't stop. West Indian women took Gold Bond powder and put it on their chest and under their titties.

[Damaris]

Oh, it was the powder. I thought you meant like the cream.

[Rory]

No, no, the powder. Yeah, but they would also put. It would mix with Vicks.

[Damaris]

That's.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Peach]

How do we help this gentleman?

[Mal]

Yeah, bro, you gotta sit your brother down.

[Rory]

Yeah. Because this could lead to something bad.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

He was already sending nudes to grown ass adults, so. Yeah, you should try to nip this in the butt now and get him the help he needs.

[Peach]

But what, what adults were these though?

[Rory]

PDF files.

[Mal]

Yeah, probably.

[Peach]

But like, oh, he was knowingly sending his news to adults.

[Rory]

Like, yeah, it's how people get molested.

[Mal]

Also, like, maybe remind him of how much trauma he had from the first time he got jammed up with this. Be like, yo, remember in high school when you said you were going to stop this because of how bad it was? Be like, you're gonna. This gonna happen again?

[Peach]

So what's the.

[Mal]

But isn't there, like a thing you.

[Rory]

Can Google his name, he said, and find his nudes on Reddit? He's like, if an employer just types his name in, if he has a job interview, the first thing that's coming up is his booty hole on Reddit.

[Peach]

Oh, that ain't gonna stop nothing. You could sue now if they don't hire you for that. So kind of Low is protecting you.

[Rory]

You wouldn't know that if you don't.

[Peach]

Hire me because my nude's online, I could sue you.

[Rory]

Yeah, but they wouldn't know that. That's why they didn't get the job. If you do a job interview and then no one ever calls you back.

[Damaris]

Yeah, you don't know why.

[Rory]

And listen, discriminating against people that, like, have had revenge porn or anything online I think that's up, up. But if there's somebody like willingly spreading their butt cheeks on Reddit, I don't know if that's probably the right person for this company.

[Damaris]

Yeah, I have to agree, Rory, posting.

[Mal]

Your news on Reddit, I'd be hard pressed.

[Rory]

I don't know if that's not progressive and I know he thinks we are progressive, but not. I'm just that person. I'm not. I don't even have questions. I just don't think I'll ever reply back to that resume.

[Peach]

Okay.

[Mal]

And that's like. And if you're posting on Reddit, I'm curious, is it like. I think in most social media people are looking for, you know, comments. You're looking for likes, you're looking for like gratitude, you know, someone to compliment you. So who, like where are they? What forms? Because I'm sure there's a million nude forms on Reddit.

[Rory]

Oh, for sure.

[Mal]

What does he want to hear? Like, what is the. What dopamine is being hit that makes him want to do this so bad? Like what is he.

[Rory]

Okay, let me try to make sense of your question with the dopamine. Have you ever sent a risky test text and you were like to a consensually to a person that you were flirting with?

[Mal]

No. Yeah, I get. Yeah.

[Rory]

Is there not some dopamine or some excitement of that reply to your risky text? Yeah, I'm just saying it's a bit of impulse that I think is with any type of drug or impulse at the moment. And he's been doing this since his income a kid and continues to do it. So clearly he's addicted to whatever a reaction from his risky post. Yeah, that's probably what it is. If he just out here willy nilly just sending everything as a kid to now also to the world wide web. Not even a PDF file. Like just here you go world. Yeah, here's my nude. Not even on some only fans like business model shit. You just. Here you go. There's probably some dopamine in getting a response to his naked body.

[Peach]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Which is an addiction that you should probably talk to your brother.

[Damaris]

I do wonder why more people don't go into porn. Like I have a cousin that I told her like the she be doing. I'm like, you could just like go into porn like you don't want to.

[Rory]

Be doing anything else.

[Peach]

What she be doing, baby?

[Damaris]

Dude, she just be.

[Peach]

She got a link tree and what's her ig?

[Damaris]

This. This. I'm. I love my. I love it's my Christmas. She knows. She knows.

[Rory]

She wild.

[Damaris]

I'm not gonna say her name. I would never do her like that. But she has let. She let her boyfriend nut on a piece of food and ate it. She's let men. She lets her man pee on her like she is.

[Peach]

Her IGs text it to me.

[Damaris]

Different level of freaky. I said, girl, go into porn. I don't like. You are wasting your talents on regular niggas.

[Mal]

Like.

[Rory]

But that's the intimate thing she does with her partner that she enjoys.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

That doesn't mean just some random.

[Mal]

She wants to be on camera.

[Rory]

What do they call? They call it collabing now. No, he.

[Peach]

No, he collabed. Collaborated on content.

[Rory]

No, he pissed on your face.

[Peach]

You said her IG was what?

[Damaris]

Yep.

[Mal]

Ma.

[Damaris]

Ma, you. There's no way you're into that type of stuff.

[Peach]

Sex.

[Rory]

Pissing is missionary to.

[Mal]

Does she present freaky.

[Peach]

Don't do that. Don't. See. Don't, don't. Don't throw that. Don't throw that narrative sexual deviant. Don't do that. The business missionary. You know how crazy.

[Damaris]

I don't want no vegan peeing on me.

[Peach]

You don't want.

[Damaris]

No, I don't want anybody peeing on me. But if I had to choose, it wouldn't be a vegan.

[Peach]

You would want a vegan to pee on you.

[Rory]

No.

[Damaris]

Y'all eat a lot of asparagus. You ever smelled asparagus pee?

[Mal]

That's true. Yeah.

[Peach]

It's got a little tang to it, but at least it's clear.

[Damaris]

That shit smell like you don't want.

[Peach]

What, you want yellow piss or you want clear piss?

[Rory]

Wait, first of all, you can eat meat and have clear piss.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Just drink water.

[Peach]

Yeah, but it's. You know, when y'all eat meat and pee is kind of like. It smell like.

[Mal]

Doesn't smell like steak.

[Peach]

It does. It smells like.

[Rory]

I fucking wish.

[Peach]

It smells like car bone.

[Mal]

That'd be kind of chill.

[Rory]

Yeah. Had a bunch of women ask me to piss on them if it smelled like car bone. It's hard to get a reservation. Clearly they're doing something right.

[Damaris]

Just. Yes, sit down with the sexual deviant and try to help them. If you're worried about them being embarrassed, listen, at this point, it's past that because it sounds like you're worried about their safety or other people's safety. Their future, too.

[Rory]

It's the Internet. It's forever. The more you do this, the harder it's gonna be to get away from it. When you want to and have them.

[Peach]

Call BetterHelp and give them cold Rory Mall. And you get.

[Mal]

You could also get a therapist. You could guilt him with the religious angle, too, because we're not gonna say our caller's name because he didn't want it to be said. But it's this. Oh, so.

[Rory]

Oh, he's probably lashing out.

[Mal]

So they are very religious. Oh, yeah, he said it. He said the family. Yeah, so you could do that. Hit him over the head with, like, you know, Mom.

[Rory]

No, that's probably why he ran, why he's like that. Yeah, he's revolting against a very strict and religious household.

[Peach]

But.

[Rory]

But I know it'll be awkward, especially having that conversation with a sibling, but for his safety and his future, have that awkward conversation. Pretty. Pretty simple advice. It's time this butthole is on Reddit. This has gone too far. After you guys.

[Peach]

Yeah, once your butthole ends up on Reddit, once your balloon knot is on, like, page three and Reddit page three.

[Mal]

That must be a good photo. Keep going.

[Damaris]

Keep. You're doing something right.

[Mal]

How much karma does your asshole have?

[Peach]

Keep it up.

[Rory]

And if that's his thing and he doesn't want to change, get a onlyfans, bro. Like, at least make a career.

[Damaris]

Yeah, make it. That's what I'm saying. Make a dollar.

[Rory]

Or reach out to Damaris Cousins. You guys could collab.

[Mal]

Collab in Syracuse.

[Rory]

Who?

[Damaris]

I never said she lived in Syracuse.

[Mal]

Rochester.

[Peach]

And you still ain't say what her IG was? How many followers she got?

[Damaris]

Probably like 500.

[Mal]

Does she present freaky, or is it.

[Rory]

Like she's in a relationship?

[Peach]

Oh, my bad.

[Mal]

All right, Shamik, come on, man.

[Peach]

No, I thought she said she just does, like, nasty with her, like, the guy.

[Mal]

She's small.

[Rory]

I mean, shamal, so this question's kind of gross, but, you know, it's almost Christmas, so why not? Would you ever nut on a piece of toast and give it to a young lady?

[Mal]

Why the fuck not?

[Peach]

Well, it's the season. Forgiven, Rory. And if that's what she wants for.

[Damaris]

Christmas, then would you ever look at her differently?

[Peach]

Yes, absolutely.

[Damaris]

If your girl. If she loves you that much, if your girl lets you, like, nut on toaster strudel.

[Peach]

If my girl tells me, yo, nut on this toaster strudel and I'm gonna eat it. I'm gonna help her pack her belongings and get up.

[Rory]

Really?

[Damaris]

See, that's what I'll be trying to tell y'all. I'll be trying to be so freaky for this. Men. These men. And they judging you.

[Peach]

I just. What we doing? Nut on French toast?

[Damaris]

Nah, like this little, you know, the toaster strudel's head. Toaster strudel. So she can mix it with the glaze.

[Peach]

You don't have to do that. I could just nut in your mouth. Like, you don't have to do that.

[Damaris]

Okay.

[Rory]

And then chase it with it.

[Damaris]

Maybe she wants. Nah, but, like, maybe she wants the experience. The Mac to hit the. The ems to hit the Mac and cheese.

[Rory]

I think, honestly, in the height of the moment before I nutted, I would probably agree to that. And the post nut clarity would hit me quicker than when I beat off by myself. Like, and then it'd be clear. Then I'd see it on the. The toaster strudel. I'd probably tell her to stop. And if she ate, I'd be like, all right, first of all, I'm gonna go get a. A. A rag while you.

[Peach]

Yeah, I'm not asking.

[Rory]

While you enjoy your breakfast.

[Peach]

So I'm about to come. She leans over to the nightstand and grabs a. A Eggo that's on a saucer. Well, I'm like, come on this.

[Damaris]

I'm sure they.

[Peach]

I'm sure, like, now I don't have to nut again. Now I'm just like, yo, I.

[Mal]

And it would have to be preheated because those come frozen. So you gotta toast it. Toast it before. It's got to be timed. Like, the ding has to go off on the toaster, and you got to be like, all right. And then you.

[Peach]

Because you don't want to.

[Rory]

That's couple skill building.

[Peach]

Yeah. It's too much going on. It's too much happening. We ain't got to do that.

[Mal]

Comment on a toaster shrew is hilarious.

[Peach]

Yeah. A girl asked me to come on the mirror once, and I couldn't do it. Like.

[Damaris]

Like, come on the mirror. Why?

[Mal]

That's just.

[Peach]

We was having sex in front of the mirror, and she was like, come on the mirror. I'm lick it off. And I just started laughing.

[Damaris]

I don't. Like.

[Peach]

I was like, yo, what are you talking swag? It's not swag. It is licking a mirror.

[Damaris]

Yeah, that's weird. That's weirder than the toaster strudel. At least a toaster strudel is meant to.

[Rory]

Especially like, were you in a hotel? Because that's crazy. Look at a hotel mirror is nuts.

[Mal]

The Mondrian Stop.

[Peach]

I'm about to. The one behind the door. The one behind the door. Behind the bathroom door.

[Damaris]

Stop. Guys, I'm really getting nauseous.

[Rory]

Yo. And you know what's nuts? I know I've stayed in every single room in the Mondrian in West Hollywood. That means I was doing a fit check, getting dressed, and Mal's nut was there at one point for sure.

[Peach]

They know me.

[Rory]

I was. I was staring at my jeans and mall's nut.

[Peach]

They know me. I always cover the couch with sheets, though. Anytime y'all came in my room, it was on that couch.

[Rory]

The fact that sheets.

[Mal]

So funny. Every.

[Peach]

Every time.

[Rory]

I thought you had a gas seat.

[Peach]

No, no, I've seen enough porn they shoot. And this. This is a. This is. We on set.

[Mal]

Like.

[Peach]

Nah, I'm cool. Cover that shit up.

[Mal]

That Lily Phillips running around.

[Peach]

Oh, my God.

[Rory]

Well, this was fun. P. Just to catch his flight. Everyone has to get home.

[Mal]

Oh, yeah, you gotta go.

[Rory]

This. This was great. Happy holidays to everyone. Whatever you celebrate, thoughts and prayers. We're with everyone that's having a tough time during this holiday.

[Peach]

Thank you. We will be back right before the New Year.

[Rory]

We are rightfully so. You guys can get mad. I don't really give a fuck. Look, we're not putting an episode out on Christmas.

[Peach]

No, man. Enjoy your time with the fam, man. We're gonna do something.

[Rory]

We're gonna skipping one episode for you guys. You will not have one on Friday and Saturday. But we will be right back. We will be back Monday.

[Peach]

We will be back.

[Rory]

It's okay for some people to take Christmas off with their family. And I know that's a crazy concept.

[Damaris]

It's the perfect time for you to go back and watch the Patreon episode episodes that you haven't seen. And if you're not signed up for Patreon, you should go sign up because there's a fucking crazy backlog of some of my favorite epis. So do that on Christmas.

[Peach]

Use this time to catch up on episodes. Subscribe to the Patreon. If you ain't post your booty hole.

[Damaris]

On Reddit, post your booty hole on Patreon.

[Mal]

Patreon.

[Damaris]

We can see it if you post it in the community chat. We have a community chat that we do check and go in there and talk to you guys. I'm gonna check it during Christmas and see how you guys are doing. So please, in the Patreon community chat, you can go in there and post your stuff.

[Rory]

I don't think we have guidelines, but as soon as we sign off, I'm putting a guideline that you can't put your booty hole.

[Damaris]

Yeah. Oh, loser.

[Peach]

You're doing that. That.

[Rory]

I don't want anyone putting nudes in that thing whatsoever.

[Mal]

I feel like that actually would happen. Someone would do that.

[Peach]

Also take this time to leave us more voicemails.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Yes.

[Peach]

While we're off. So when we come back we can listen to you crazies and tell us about your holidays and what you and your crazy family did. Yeah, we can have some fun when we get back. Be safe, be blessed. Merry Christmas, love Light. Enjoy your family, enjoy your time together and we'll talk to y'all soon. Be safe, be blessed. I'm that nigga. He's just Ginger.

[Damaris]

Peace, New warrior now.

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