Episode 335 | Sensitive Winners

Summary

Podcast Summary: Episode 335 | Sensitive Winners

Podcast Information:

• Title: New Rory & MAL
• Hosts: Rory Farrell & Jamil "Mal" Clay
• Producer: Studio71
• Release Date: January 10, 2025
• Description: New stories, new laughs, new random hot takes that no one asked for...

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I. Dedication and Community Support

The episode begins with a heartfelt dedication to Blayton, a beloved member of Rory and Mal's Discord and Patreon community who recently passed away. Rory expresses deep sorrow and calls for prayers for Blayton's family and the entire community.

Rory [00:00]: "Prayers to our community and rest in peace to Blayton."

Mal adds a brief, cryptic verse that appears to touch on personal and perhaps contentious matters within their community, though its exact context remains unclear.

II. California Fires: Impact and Prayers

Shifting to current events, Rory and Mal address the devastating fires in California, emphasizing their commitment to supporting those affected. They steer clear of political discussions, focusing instead on safety and resource accessibility.

Mal [02:28]: "Prayers to all the people affected by the fires in California. A lot of people have lost homes, businesses."

Rory [02:57]: "I just want everyone to be safe and everyone get to the resources that they need..."

III. Rap Beef Analysis: Mal vs. Rayvon

A significant portion of the episode delves into the ongoing rap beef involving Mal and a rapper named Rayvon. Rory and Mal dissect Rayvon's recent diss track titled "Sensitive Winners," analyzing its lyrics and the underlying tensions.

Mal [02:28]: "I may even agree with you on certain stuff. But that's another day because I want..."

Rory [04:04]: "All right, let's give some context here..."

They discuss how Rayvon's bars seem targeted at Mal, citing specific lines that suggest personal and professional conflicts.

Mal [07:08]: "Y'all got no jumper. Y'all got whack."

Rory [17:08]: "What would be your bar to dismal?"

The hosts express their support for Rayvon's talent while simultaneously defending their stance against the diss.

IV. West Coast Representation in Media

Rory and Mal explore the representation of West Coast artists in mainstream media compared to their East Coast counterparts. They highlight perceived biases and the challenges West Coast artists face in gaining equal recognition.

Mal [14:46]: "Y'all got West Coast Wilson. Yeah, DJ Head, West Coast Wilson."

Rory [15:00]: "But how is Adam 22 affected and."

They critique major hip-hop platforms for favoring East Coast artists and discuss emerging West Coast media personalities who are striving to elevate their region's presence.

V. Relationships and Dating Advice: Listener Voicemails

Listener engagement takes center stage as a caller from Baltimore shares his challenging date experience involving excessive alcohol consumption. Rory and Mal offer practical advice on handling similar situations, emphasizing the importance of setting boundaries and recognizing red flags.

Caller [81:06]: "She sits down and she tells me this... I don't drink. Please. Sober, right?"

Rory [97:02]: "Don't let her get too drunk."

Mal [97:19]: "Cause she gonna be either drunk, argue, or she gonna be mad that you telling her not to get another drink."

VI. Defining Modern Slang Terms

A lively debate unfolds around the definitions of contemporary slang terms like "hoe" and "ran through." The hosts and their guest Peach explore the nuances and subjective nature of these labels, discussing societal perceptions and personal boundaries.

Rory [69:00]: "Why is it always level 40 men? Why it's never like 37?"

Damaris [71:26]: "When you doing that you don't normally do subjective."

Mal [72:06]: "That pattern. You sleeping with me, taking your virginity married to me, and then you go sleep with my brother."

The conversation touches on historical figures like Marilyn Monroe to illustrate how public personas intersect with personal lives and reputation.

VII. Final Remarks: TikTok Situations

In the closing segment, the hosts briefly discuss the looming shutdown of TikTok, referencing Supreme Court decisions and political influences. They express skepticism about the platform's future and its impact on social media dynamics.

Damaris [107:52]: "I'm about to lose my mind."

Rory [108:06]: "Cause everyone's adding things up."

They also reiterate their commitment to supporting the Los Angeles community amidst ongoing challenges.

Rory [107:21]: "Continued prayers to everyone in Los Angeles."

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Notable Quotes:

• Rory [00:00]: "Prayers to our community and rest in peace to Blayton."
• Mal [02:28]: "Prayers to all the people affected by the fires in California."
• Mal [14:46]: "Y'all got West Coast Wilson. Yeah, DJ Head, West Coast Wilson."
• Rory [69:00]: "Why is it always level 40 men? Why it's never like 37?"
• Rory [97:02]: "Don't let her get too drunk."
• Damaris [71:26]: "When you doing that you don't normally do subjective."

Conclusion:

Episode 335 of New Rory & MAL navigates through a tapestry of topics, from heartfelt community dedications and urgent support for those impacted by natural disasters, to dissecting complex interpersonal conflicts within the hip-hop community. The hosts engage in candid discussions about media representation, personal relationships, and societal slang, all while maintaining an interactive dialogue with their audience through listener voicemails. This episode encapsulates the dynamic and unfiltered spirit that New Rory & MAL is known for, offering listeners both entertainment and insightful commentary on pressing issues.

Transcript

[Rory]

Before we start the episode, we do want to dedicate this to Blayton. He was a member of our Discord and Patreon community that recently passed away. Wanted to say rest in peace prayers to his family, his three children, everybody in our Discord community because I know that we're very close with him, kb, Maddie, Matt, Mixie girl, everyone. Prayers to our community and rest in peace to Blayton.

[Mal]

No warrior now please don't get confused with shooting the movies. We're really shooting what's on soul album so if you ask me you look like a goo. I hope this message reaches you well and Tory, you should be ashamed of yourself cause DDG needed to sell you did a verse from a cell for you went to jail and abused me and you was Keenan and Kell Stranger things happen on the mic when niggas beef over Ls don't think you shot her. I was praying for your freedom as well. You lawyer to rappers in your early days you beef with as well. If ain't no friendlies in a six then we gonna blick you as well. Shoulda did 60 days in for a podcast. I treat Maul like orders from Teemu. He'll get boxed bad when it seem like everyone hate us. How can we not crash the pop for who don't got dads Watch us make the stock crash kids play with.

[Rory]

Cap guns 2025 and mall still cannot get away from his west coast ops. I thought. I thought we buried Don't.

[Mal]

Don't we all.

[Rory]

Hey, look, made nice and we're leaving these problems in 2024.

[Mal]

Look, look, something you gotta don't. Don't put Mall name and Ops in the same.

[Rory]

I didn't put Mall's name anywhere.

[Mal]

I have no ops and opted. I don't have no issues with nobody.

[Rory]

You don't get to decide when you.

[Mal]

Have options how it works anymore. I'm here to listen to all lies in 2025. All lies. I'm here. I'm here to hear them.

[Rory]

Is that your rap response?

[Mal]

All lies in 2025. Lie to me. I want to hear it.

[Rory]

You not 2020. Fine, you give it 2025.

[Mal]

Nah, 2020 lies. 2020 lies. That's what I want to hear.

[Damaris]

You boxed out like a Teemu package. That was a lie. That's what you're telling me?

[Mal]

Oh, that's the biggest lie of 2025 told. Yeah, that's the biggest lie of the year right there.

[Rory]

That you don't get Uber eats or.

[Mal]

That you can't box oh, no, I could box. But I'm just saying, you know, I don't. I've never been on Team. What is it, Tim? You.

[Rory]

I haven't been on there either.

[Mal]

I don't even know what that is.

[Rory]

So yesterday we were. We were recording patreon.com forward/new rory Mole. Subscribe now. We're recording Patreon and I start getting a whole bunch of text messages from people on the west coast because I'm a double agent and I play both sides.

[Mal]

Well, before we get into that, because what this gentleman should be rapping about is everyone on the west coast being safe and all of the people that have lost their homes, prayers to them. Let's start with that. Prayers to all the people affected by the fires in California. A lot of people have lost homes, businesses. There's been a few fatalities as a result of this. So let's start with that. I don't want to talk about, you know, dumb shit. Let's start with the important things.

[Rory]

And nor do I want to play politics. I just want everyone to be safe and everyone get to the resources that they need and we can do the point the finger game later. I may even agree with you on certain stuff. I also will save my entire rant about. It's interesting when they pick and choose when there should be relief funds and how quick they get it compared to other communities. But that's another day because I want.

[Mal]

To make sure it's interesting that so many policies were not renewed at the top of the year. So many insurance policies and picking favorites.

[Rory]

Of what to say but not to save. But yeah, prayers to everybody in Los Angeles.

[Mal]

Yes, absolutely.

[Rory]

My loved ones in Los Angeles.

[Mal]

That's our second home.

[Rory]

Been checking in on everyone. Yeah, I thought we're gonna do that later in the episode. Caught me off guard. But I understand you're trying to lead with love. Leading with loves. The West Coast.

[Mal]

Leading with love.

[Rory]

And I believe he said in his freestyle that. That everyone's just been sneak dissing the West Coast. Nah, not really. Anytime it's been pretty blatant.

[Mal]

I just wanna how my name end up in it. Like, I don't, I don't talk. I just be. I come here on my platform.

[Damaris]

You about to say you don't talk.

[Mal]

I'm saying I don't talk about like, I don't diss nobody. I don't disrespect nobody.

[Damaris]

Okay.

[Mal]

Who have I disrespected? Don't give me the hood. Who do I. Who have I disrespected?

[Rory]

I don't know if disrespect, because I.

[Mal]

Don'T like a record.

[Rory]

I don't know if disrespect would be the word, but I can understand all artists and crews being sensitive. Not calling them sensitive. I'm just calling all artists in general about their shit choice. Words can be taken as disrespect, even if it's not.

[Mal]

I've never said anything about this gentleman.

[Rory]

And then sometimes the plus fours get more upset than the person that's actually on the list.

[Mal]

I've never said anything about this gentleman. Rewind the tapes. I've never disrespected this gentleman.

[Rory]

But you've disrespected the person that used to be in the crew that he was in when he wasn't in it.

[Mal]

That's not riding to you. Y'all called me a rider all last 2024. This ain't riding to you.

[Rory]

All right, let's give some context here. Yesterday, despite focusing on the fires in LA and not LA rap beef or GNX or anything related to music, this gentleman, which I'll give Rayvon some. Some bail here. I don't think he recorded this in the midst of the chaos in la. I think it was just timing.

[Mal]

You think he had these bars already even though Joey Badass a song dropped last week?

[Rory]

Yeah, I think.

[Mal]

Yeah, I think.

[Rory]

I think Rayvon save him in that time.

[Mal]

Save him. Rory. Rory, Rayvon. I know in one week they all stick together, don't they?

[Rory]

I think in one week, Rayvon could go rent a luxury car, find a 5D camera. And I think he's a good rapper, so I think he wrote that probably pretty, pretty quickly. Now. I'm always here for the back and forth with actual rap beef on wax. And I like what Joey Badass said. I didn't think it was that crazy quoting Jay Z by saying too much west coast dick licking. But a lot of people on the west coast got their panties in a bun. Got. Got their chucks tied up a little too much, did they? People on. On the timeline were a little upset at that. I didn't think it was that disrespectful. And you guys were just celebrating for the whole year of how y'all don't back down from rap battles, and y'all had the best year any city has had, period of 2024. Why are you guys so upset that Joey Badass said that? But Rayvon feels that he's a good contender in this, and you caught a stray halfway through it. Which we have to go back to because you and Rayvon have had Twitter tension.

[Mal]

No, we have not.

[Rory]

Every time we say that, you gotta.

[Mal]

Stop saying you somebody from the west. Ray Vaughn said, yeah, but have I had to. What have I said? Have I said anything?

[Rory]

He has been riding for his coast.

[Mal]

That's fine. That's great. I respect it.

[Rory]

And for one of his favorite rappers, which I understand he grew up in Long Beach, I could see Kendrick being that. He's part of the crew Kendrick used to be a part of.

[Damaris]

Wait, so they're not, like, friends? Like, he's just like, Baby D, stop. No, no, I'm not doing that.

[Mal]

We not doing that. No, I'm asking Baby D. We not doing that. We not doing this.

[Rory]

Are friends.

[Mal]

All right, go ahead. What you said Baby D. Are they friends? I don't know. But my thing is, if you gotta ask, that means no.

[Damaris]

Cause I.

[Mal]

You ain't gotta ask who my friends are.

[Damaris]

I fuck with Meg, too, but I ain't gonna diss Nikki. Like, it's like, are they, like, cool?

[Mal]

I mean, I don't know.

[Rory]

I'm one degree of separation. Like, he's cool with Top Dog, and Top Dog is cool with Kendrick, and I'm also not mad at it. It's rap. So if you want to ride for your coast and Kendrick being the leader of the coast, that's fine.

[Mal]

Right?

[Rory]

I'm on the side of Joey Badass here, just by proxy, like him as an artist. But if he's finally saying, fuck this west coast shit, east coast is back. I'm with Joey. Yeah, we're not friends, but I'm riding with him. So I get what Rayvon is doing.

[Damaris]

But you're not gonna get in a booth.

[Rory]

I mean, come on. They don't want that.

[Damaris]

They don't.

[Rory]

They don't want that. Push ups is one thing. I'm gonna do power clean.

[Mal]

So how does my name end up in this Rory? Like, what did I do?

[Rory]

Well, weeks ago, which I think is fair game because we have a podcast at the height of the ovo tde Twitter stuff and our clips going viral. With you talking about Kendrick and Drake, I think it's fair game that Rayvon can voice his opinion on the timeline. Then he started to take it, I think, a little too personal, which I thought was odd, and I don't think you. Did we ever even reply to that?

[Mal]

No, I don't reply to nobody. Y'all come in here and get mad at me because I don't reply to nobody. And again, and this is why I don't reply to nobody, but say you.

[Damaris]

Gonna beat somebody up like a teemu box just because they dissed like somebody from your town or like one of.

[Rory]

Your just cause they like a rap song better than the other one.

[Damaris]

That's crazy.

[Mal]

Damaris. Let me. Let me explain.

[Damaris]

That's not crazy. No. And you know, I'm qu call mall a writer and I'm not on his side, but that's crazy. I'm on mall side this time. That's wild.

[Rory]

It's kind of gay, isn't it?

[Damaris]

It's a little weird.

[Mal]

Let me just assure you one thing, Damaris. I am safe, I'm secure, and everything is going to be okay.

[Rory]

I mean, I talked to Lon this morning. Maybe put aside a little budget for security, get you to your car. Not like full time, but just from like the office to your car.

[Mal]

Just here. Yeah, yeah, man, get the out of here.

[Rory]

You don't know how far Ray's arms stretch anyway. I don't have more shooters.

[Mal]

I don't have no issues with nobody. I don't have beef with nobody. I tell y'all every year. I'm not beefing with nobody, black. I'll beef with some of you crackers.

[Peach]

Damn.

[Mal]

I shouldn't have said that. But I'm not beefing with nobody, black.

[Rory]

Just don't put the hard er on crackers.

[Mal]

Yeah, I know the ER at the end is kind of crazy, but, you.

[Rory]

Know, you don't know the history.

[Mal]

I'm not mad. Listen, listen, Rayvon, if you're. You know, I don't. I don't know. I get it. Tde, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, man, I'm looking.

[Rory]

Nah, don't do this humble shit.

[Mal]

What? I don't know this gentleman.

[Damaris]

What happened? Talk back.

[Rory]

Jakari got you wiped down, Ray.

[Mal]

I mean, but we know Dochi got him wiped down.

[Rory]

Isaiah got you wiped down.

[Mal]

Yeah, I mean, you know Lance Skywalker got him wiped.

[Rory]

You know, Punch, when Punch just wants to freestyle for him.

[Mal]

Reason for sure got him wiped down.

[Damaris]

Don't put reason.

[Mal]

Reason got him white. I'm about to call reason. I'm about to call Reason, though.

[Rory]

He's minding his business. I'm sure there was NDAs that were signed with their departure.

[Mal]

Let me call my man Reeves.

[Rory]

Man.

[Mal]

Where Reeves at, dog? Where Reeves at, man?

[Rory]

Are you trying to get him in while you try to get Reason on the phone?

[Mal]

It's kind of early. I'm just make sure reason is straight. First and foremost, you Know, here in la, fires going.

[Rory]

I checked it. Please leave your message. Oh, never. Never mind.

[Mal]

Damn, it's beef. All right, Reason, it's up with you too, then. It's all good.

[Rory]

Wait, hold on.

[Damaris]

You might have called the old phone number, I think.

[Mal]

Oh, okay. Maybe that's what it was.

[Damaris]

He changed his number. Rory got it.

[Rory]

Or maybe, just maybe, he has more block because he's from the West Coast.

[Mal]

Yeah, maybe.

[Rory]

Yo, yo, Reason, you are live on air. Mall just tried to call you and went straight to voicemail. So we know due to your west coast ties, you had to block Mall, but Mall wanted to call you.

[Mal]

Mall.

[Peach]

I have a new number.

[Mal]

Oh, okay. I thought. I thought it was up. I thought it was up. I was like, hold up. I was like, hold up. Reason send me straight to voicemail.

[Rory]

Reason is riding with Ray before them all, for sure.

[Mal]

Hey, hey, hey, Reason, Listen, man, this. This. This gentleman, Ray Vaughan, I don't know what the issue is. I. I guess he's a little upset at my, you know, stance on the whole Drake, Kendrick records back and forth in 2024, you know, and I understand that, but.

[Peach]

But understandably.

[Mal]

Understandably. But does my name belong in the heart? Part seven, though.

[Rory]

Part 6.5.

[Mal]

Yeah. Like this. Reeves, what's up, man? Cause I. Because I. Because I already said you Dochi. Y'all got him wiped down, so. It is what it is, but I'm just trying to understand why my name is in the bars, man. What. What did. Are they that mad over there on the west coast that I didn't think that that record was dope?

[Peach]

I. I think. I think it's. I think it's a situation, man, where you, you know, you. You offend a lot of people over here, man. You don't offend me. You my dog. But it's a lot of people that feel away, you know, we in a. A kind of weird space with this whole Drake and Dot thing where everything is turning into that. And I think. I think Ray. I think Ray was just shooting that kind of like everybody. That's what it kind of sound like, to be honest with you. That's what it sound like. But I didn't necessarily think that your name needed to, like, you don't rap, you don't rap.

[Mal]

And I never. And I never. Not only do I not rap, I've never said nothing to that gentleman.

[Rory]

But it's the crew.

[Peach]

Yeah, I. I can see both sides, though, because it's like, you know, the. The TD camp is taking a lot of pride in what's said about DOT right now, I've been on the other side of that. So they've taken a lot of pride about what's said about Don. I just think that he's been taking. He probably took offense to. You know what I mean? Like what's going on with the Drake and. And Dot situation. That's what I. That's what I think it probably is. You know what I mean? But, you know, I'm a firm believer in like, you know, once. Once start beefing and whatever you say is what you kind of gotta stand on. So I just. He said that he stood on it and you know, whatever comes with that comes to that reason.

[Rory]

I. I have a question.

[Peach]

What's up?

[Rory]

I want. I want. No, we talk.

[Peach]

We talk way too much.

[Rory]

I want no issues with the West Coast. Love it over there.

[Peach]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Prayers, shouts. Everyone on the left coast. Do you find it odd as the represent. Representation of the west coast is you guys are sensitive winners? I've never seen that in my entire life. I'm the representation all of west coast rap Twitter. I've never seen more sensitive win life. Y'all won. Why is everyone so butthurt? But.

[Peach]

But I mean, it's also said. Well, I get you said. I about say it's also sensitive losers.

[Rory]

But I get what you sensitive losers make sense to me.

[Peach]

Yeah, that makes sense. That makes. I'm gonna be honest, like for me. And I'm only speaking for me. I'm not the representative of.

[Rory]

You're speaking for everyone right now.

[Peach]

I'm just. I'm. I'm just tired of talking about the whole situation like it's.

[Rory]

It's.

[Peach]

It's one of those things where I feel like we not even enjoying music no more because everything is relating back to Drake and Dot and I think. But what I will say about the west coast and I think me and you have combo before is that like, we've never really gotten the credit that I feel like we deserve in the. And. And I'm being damn serious.

[Rory]

I never.

[Peach]

Conversation.

[Mal]

Yeah, we not doing a reason. We not doing that, man. We not doing that.

[Rory]

Y really let. And you know, I think Kendrick won. My only real critique of everything was when he had said it was. I think it was on Euphoria. People just don't like the west coast. And I'm okay with who has been hating on the West Coast. We have always loved y'all music.

[Peach]

No, so I. I don't think that it's. That we get hate. We don't get the like that we deserve. I think it's that like when you look, but it's also because a lot of the hip hop media, majority of it are the big hip hop media is on the East. So we don't get the love that I feel like we.

[Mal]

Nah, y'all got West Coast Wilson. Yeah, DJ Head, West Coast Wilson. DJ Head. Y'all got Big Boy.

[Peach]

Like, like, for example, like DJ Head didn't have as big of a name before all of this. We do have Big Boy, but Big Boy's always going to play it like, you know what I mean? Like kind of in the middle, but like majority of the big media. Hip hop.

[Mal]

Y'all got no jumper. Y'all got whack.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Peach]

Stop.

[Mal]

Stop.

[Peach]

Hey.

[Mal]

Hey. Mom.

[Peach]

Stop it.

[Mal]

Stop.

[Rory]

Is he wrong? Listen, say what you want about Adam22. He has brought up a lot of west coast rappers onto that platform that people did not know about for the last five, six, seven years. That's a huge platform.

[Peach]

But how is Adam 22 affected and.

[Rory]

And Hot 97 and Breakfast Club aren't bringing up up and coming New York rappers anymore. The west coast media shit's doing better than us. Y'all are some sore ass winners.

[Peach]

I get what you're trying.

[Mal]

Y'all got Back on Fig. Yeah, back on Fig. Shout outs to the homies. Back on Fig. You know what I'm saying? It's over there doing their thing.

[Peach]

Shout out to the homies.

[Rory]

You got out of your contract because of that.

[Peach]

That is very true.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Peach]

Hey, so you might be on this.

[Mal]

Yeah. Hey, y'all over there. Y'all got some dudes over there doing. Y'all got dudes over there doing some good things, man.

[Rory]

Absolutely. No, no, I'm not.

[Peach]

I'm not saying that we don't. What I'm. I'm talking about his historically, like, historically, like west coast media is popping. Like it's starting to like really, really pop now. But I'm saying historically, bro, we look at these lists. B Dot do every year he throw one west coast rapper on there. This year he finally did it where he gave credit. But he throw one west coast rapper on there every year. Complex usually don't even acknowledge the way I think for the last like three years outside of. No, don't you. Not even west coast outside of like the last three years in the double XL Freshman. No west coast, period. Like, we don't get the credit. I think that now that we've won and is still like, it's one of those things where it's like we won. And like, like, gotta lay that like we won. Like, don't, don't do that. Like we. Because we wasn't doing that when we was losing. So it's like don't do that with. So I think that that's like the. The area that is coming from, if that makes sense. You know what I mean? And that's me trying to unbiasedly say where I think they're coming from because I don't really give a. Let's keep it a step.

[Rory]

Okay, my last question. Because I do believe you are one of the best new rappers that is out. I'm gonna put you on the spot. Can you rate the Ray mall scheme, bar and flip from 1 to 10? And then my follow up question is, what would be your bar to dismal?

[Peach]

What would be my bar to dismal?

[Rory]

Oh, don't skip over rating Rayvon's diss.

[Mal]

Yeah, he went right to that. He went right to that.

[Rory]

Yeah. You need some west coast media training.

[Peach]

Yeah, that's a fact. I'm not gonna give it a number, but I thought. I thought it was okay. I didn't think it was like outstanding.

[Rory]

It was a little jab.

[Mal]

Reason you thought that was whack. Reason you thought that was whack, Man, I know how you rap. You thought that was whack.

[Peach]

It was okay. I thought it was okay. Shout out to Raymond. I thought it was okay.

[Mal]

Shout out to yo, why? You know what's up with reason now, now, now see? Reason. I gotta give you six bars.

[Peach]

Hey, look, hey, hey, look, look, mom, man, I'm trying to keep peace over there, you feel me? But I thought it was okay. I thought it was a jab. I didn't think it was like nothing crazy, but if I had to, if I had to dis them all, I would. I would have probably like circled around something like with. With either a flip on the money bags, he always leaving, or I would.

[Rory]

Have like been there, done that.

[Peach]

Yeah, yeah. Or I would have had some type of. Some type of bar about, you know, like a sleepover with Drake. I would have did.

[Rory]

Yeah. Some sleeping bags. That'd be pretty. Sleeping bag, money bag could go. Yeah, yeah, I see where you're taking us. Yeah. Once you flush that one out, more might be cooked. I'm with you. Yeah.

[Peach]

You know what I mean? Like, if I got a little bit of time to sit with it, you know, I mean, I would have did something like that.

[Rory]

It's tough. I give Ray credit though, because it Is tough to dismal after I cleaned him up in that parking garage. Like, there's. There's only so many bars left.

[Mal]

I just want all you to know, none of y'all can come to no more Drake shows. It's over. Don't. You will not have black envelopes at will call. It's over.

[Rory]

You think Rayvon was going to Australia?

[Mal]

Yeah, it's over. It's over.

[Peach]

Hey, hey, hey.

[Rory]

Chill out. Well, we appreciate you reason. We hope you're safe. We hope your family's safe. Prayers to everyone out in LA right now and the whole greater LA area.

[Mal]

Yes.

[Peach]

Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Appreciate y'all.

[Mal]

All right.

[Rory]

Talk to you, bro. All right, well, I'd like to go back to May 27, 2024. Rayon tweeted that that mall dude is obsessed with hating on Dot. And it's weird as only time I see him go viral.

[Damaris]

Look at me.

[Rory]

Is when he's hating. Now, I will say January 9th of 2025, the only time I see Ray Vaughan go viral is when he disses Maul.

[Damaris]

Damn.

[Mal]

I would just like to say prayers and condolences to anybody affected by the fires in California. We hope that everybody is staying safe. 2025. I'm here to listen to all lies and listen, Rayvon, you know, listen, man.

[Rory]

All eyes tell real lies.

[Mal]

Hopefully Rayvon puts an album out this year.

[Rory]

I think he's an incredible rapper. I love his freestyles. I hate when rappers. I think Simba's doing a good job of getting out of the freestyle guy. And I see Rayvon do what works for you and get you traction, but what separates you is the music, especially when you're on a label that puts out real music, not just people that freestyle. I've always thought he was talented. I'm excited.

[Mal]

Talented. He's very talented.

[Rory]

I don't think he's a badass.

[Mal]

I love his LA Leaguers freestyle. He had one of the best LA Leaguer freestyles.

[Rory]

Listen anyone that raps on that Beans shit.

[Mal]

Yeah, yeah. You know, I don't know. I don't know him. Never met him. I don't have no ill feelings towards him. If he want to play, put my name in, you know, the hard part. 6.5 or whatever it's called. That's cool. I understand it. But, you know, away from that, I don't have no issues with nobody. I don't know this gentleman. And hopefully he puts an album out this year that I will gladly sit here, listen to and critique and critique on my platform.

[Rory]

I don't know, man. We have to take some accountability for the negativity to start the year. We got into a mess with the Elliot thing, which trickled down to Cam and Mace.

[Mal]

We didn't get into a mess. What mess we got into.

[Rory]

We platformed the conversation.

[Mal]

Oh, that's not us.

[Rory]

We need to take accountability in 2025. So, yes, we had something to do with that. Now I'm gonna do this story kind of in reverse with the timeline, because Today, as of January 9th, it is what it is. Podcast. Cam and Mace apologies if it's not a podcast. Is that offensive? Now, if you call some high production and suits a podcast, great fucking show. Either way. They had posted today a picture of them and says, you know, you done up right. Tune in Monday. Now, Cam and Mace have kind of been off this entire year. They said they had to handle some stuff. Everyone was awaiting their Elliot Wilson reply, based off our podcast. Now, Jim Jones goes on Justin LeBoy's podcast and confronts the cam, mace and 50 cent episode. If you remember that, from last year, when 50 went up there and 50 and Cam discussed the time, if you remember, when they were beefing. Yeah, Jim Jones had Ballin out at the time Juels. And Jim Jones went and performed with 50 Cent at the height of the Cameron 50 Cent beef in 07, which was crazy. Like, dipset. Come on. Like, what the fuck are y'all doing?

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

And Cam was explaining there was always turmoil behind the scenes, this and that. And I was under the impression Cam and Jim were still in a good place. I know it's always rocky, but I thought right now they were in a good place. So Justin the boy brings that up on this episode, this year with Jim Jones. And Jim didn't sound like shit was all good. He said, they always told me, get off my dick. There's not enough space. It's only for my girl. It doesn't feel like Cam and Jim Jones are in a good place anymore. Whereas publicly, the last time I checked, I thought they were, but I never know.

[Mal]

I just don't. It's weird with a lot of these shows and, you know when people post on the Internet because timelines can get crossed. Timelines can get mixed up. Because I saw a clip of, I think, Cam and Jim, where Jim was saying that Cam liked his shades. One of his shades, he took his shades off, gave him the Cam. Cam had him on, and he liked Cam. Jim's hat. And Jim gave him his hat. And, you know, Jim was laughing like, yo, he said he Liked my hat. He liked my shades. Obviously, you know, he wearing it. I'm not like, you know. And it seemed like now, again, I don't know when that was. And then I don't know when this Justin LeBoy shit was recorded this year, but that's what I'm saying. So it's funny when these things happen, because you don't know when this was recorded versus when, you know, him and Cam was together. And Cam said he liked Jim's glasses in his hat, so Jim gave it to him. I just don't. I don't know. But what I do know is what Jim said sitting down with Justin LeBoy. It does. You know, whenever you start talking about, you know, another man and your dick, that's a level of disrespect.

[Rory]

And I say, suck my dick. He said, get off my dick.

[Mal]

It's the same thing.

[Damaris]

Same thing.

[Mal]

Me and your dick in the same sentence don't belong.

[Rory]

I'm not saying get off my dick isn't offensive, but it's. It is not the same as, yo, suck my dick. If he would have said, Yo, Cam 50 Cent, suck my dick, that would have been way different than him replying to the clip and going, man, they always on my dick. And I thought it was kind of a joke at first. And then he started getting into the history, which we had already known, because Cam and Jim have done this back and forth for years of, like, yo, I was doing my own thing. He wasn't holding it down for Dipset. So I had to do what was best for Jim Jones. And we. We know all that now. Do we think.

[Mal]

Let me explain. Let me explain something, okay? Cam is going to respond as if he said, suck my dick.

[Rory]

I agree with you that. No disagreement.

[Mal]

So y'all see, they're saying it's not the same. It is the same thing. Anytime you put my name and another man's dick in the same sentence, I don't care if you said suck it or get off it. It's the same level of disrespect.

[Rory]

Okay, I do think Cam is gonna reply as if it's the same, but do we think that they were cool again as we saw publicly? And 50 going on their show pissed Jim off a little bit because Jim and 50 never really debted their beef over the last few years. So did he maybe look at Cam crazy like, you know, me and 50 not really getting along. Why are you gonna have him on your show like that?

[Mal]

I mean, then say that. Don't say, oh, they be on my dick. Like, I think that's where the disrespect is a little. Because I don't even think Cam said anything or Kim and when Cam at 50 was talking, I don't even think they said anything like disrespectful. I don't even think it was like no crazy disrespectful shit.

[Rory]

No, that's why I think that Jim is just rightfully so mad. Like, Cam, you know, I'm not fucking with him. I thought we was cool. Why are you having him on the show?

[Mal]

Yeah, but I mean, you can't be. Yeah, but I mean, cool. You can be. Jim has a right to feel away about, you know, if Cam has somebody on his show that obviously there's some history and, you know, but Cam and 50 had a lot of history where they were beefing. At one point, they even spoke to.

[Rory]

That and Jim went right on stage with 50. I just think it's a little different now. Cause 50 even today, posting up paperwork that we don't even know what's real and what isn't and implying things about Jim that we don't know to be true. I can see it a little bit different than the back and forth Curtis laughing beef that cam in 50 had. It was easy for 50 and cam to get over that beef because it wasn't really nothing. It was Angie Martinez phone call on Hot 97 that went left. And then we got some. Hilarious.

[Mal]

Yeah, but I just think again, once.

[Rory]

You start saying 50's talking about paperwork with Jim, I don't think Jim plays like that.

[Mal]

Yeah, but I don't think 50 plays with you putting his name and your dick in a sentence either. So back to what I said about you crossing a line of disrespect. Once you cross that line with men, you know, you can't. Because Jim would have. He would have reacted the same way had somebody had Jim's name and their dick in the same sentence. You know what I'm saying? Like, you just don't. I mean, we all know where these guys are from and we all from the same places and we know certain things you just don't. You don't put out there. And I understand Jim feeling away about cam at 50, sitting down, talking and, you know, whatever. But there's still a way to be like, yo, I wasn't feeling that. You know, it doesn't have to cross a certain line of disrespect. And I think that that line was crossed. And, you know, obviously we all know 50's history. He's here for that type of disrespect. He loves when he goes there. He loves getting on the Internet. He's going to troll. He's going, you know, he's going to turn it into a whole two, three months. You know, he might be.

[Rory]

Two, three months, two, three years.

[Mal]

It might be the rest of the year where you know, every week he decides, you know, just, just drop something and post something about Jim and he's.

[Rory]

Gonna plug a liquor and a movie while he's doing it.

[Mal]

As we're recording, Cam and Mace are probably, you know. Well, not so much Mace. Mace not. May not have much to say but you know, Cam is definitely responding to that.

[Damaris]

Well, Jim said some things about Mace too though.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

On the sit down with Justin. I didn't hear, I didn't hear that.

[Damaris]

He basically said he was like Mase was disrespect. Like Mace was shitting on everybody, including Cam, everybody that they was around. So he was like his so called best friend.

[Mal]

But we've had, we know it was years of Mace and Cam were at odds. That's not no secret. I just think that it's just they've obviously moved past that. They've obviously reconciled their differences. We spoke about this, I think last week. You know how I love the fact that we have Cam and Mace now giving us some type of content. Whereas we missed years of music when they were both at their prime as far as, you know, recording artists and making music. I wish we would have had some years of them giving us more music together. But they still found a way to entertain us with their show.

[Rory]

I have to give you pushback because you are Harlem adjacent. You are uptown and your family is from Harlem. I have to call bullshit on this has become. I already pissed off Long Beach, California might as well do Harlem. This whole Harlem stick together thing is bullshit. You guys have been doing that campaign and we've watched Cam and Mace beef forever. Now they're on a show together talking about somebody that Cam was just cool with and that Mace was cool with at one point. This has been going on 30 years. Harlem has never stuck together.

[Mal]

No, but what I'm saying is those gentlemen, the beef that they had.

[Rory]

I'm not as much as I like the mess. I don't want to see Cam get up there next Monday and shit on Jim Jones again. I like when Cam and Jim are making music together and friends. I like when Dipset is together. I like when Cameron and Mace are together. Yeah, but you say these are So I know you say you don't want.

[Mal]

Cam to respond to disrespect.

[Rory]

No. Oh, no, I do. I just hate to see it when all of them have finally gotten to a good place, and it's shit that goes so deep that I know nothing about. So I'm not going to pretend to. And I know it's out of my pedigree of. Of certain things behind the scenes that they've gone through, but no, at this point, my God, it's 20, 25. Y'all have been beefing since 1990.

[Mal]

But who's beefing, though?

[Rory]

Everyone within that Harlem circle.

[Mal]

But Cam and Mace have a show together, obviously, and they beefing no more. They beefed forever when they were kids. They was 20 something years old.

[Rory]

Well, first of all, Cameron and Mace were dissing each other when Mace was 40.

[Mal]

Okay. But again.

[Rory]

And I love that they've moved. All right. And we thought Kevin. Jim did. Why? Why can't dame take that hashtag and actually see it through? Why does every time. Everyone can't be on the same page? That's just what I'm after.

[Mal]

Yeah, but why are you saying it like. Cam and Mace reconciled their beef. They moved past it. Cam and 50 reconciled their beef and moved past it.

[Rory]

50 has nothing to do with this. I'm talking about everyone from Children of the Corn.

[Mal]

Yeah, but what I'm saying, obviously, Cam and Jim had got to a place where they were cool. They did business. They did shows together like they were trying to do shows. Yeah. So they're not beefing. This is some new rehashed energy that Jim introduced.

[Rory]

Proving my point. They're always. Somebody is piecing it up and then beefing again. Piecing it up, beefing it up.

[Mal]

Oh, yeah, but that has nothing to do. Why are you saying. With Harlem and Kim, Jim is making.

[Rory]

Some of the best music he's ever made in his life. He's had Cam on a few. I want more ditch set music.

[Mal]

I think we all do. But I think Cam is in shape.

[Rory]

When he does his freestyles on. It is what it is. He sounds incredible.

[Mal]

Jim is in shape. Shape. I think we all would like to see that. But. But my thing is, you can't say that Cam doesn't want that. Cam is not on this platform disrespecting Jim. Jim sat down with somebody and he said some things that we all know are disrespectful. And now we're all sitting here knowing that Cam is definitely gonna respond to that.

[Rory]

I'm just saying, you And Hop need to fix it, that's all.

[Mal]

That's not my situation. I ain't got nothing to do with it.

[Rory]

I'm gonna try to get 50 and banks back together and you fix this dipset.

[Mal]

Nah, man.

[Rory]

116Th to 145th street beef that's been going on.

[Mal]

I Stay out of it, man. 20, 25. I'm listening to all lies, man. I'm staying out of it, minding my fucking business. I do hate that, you know, that, that, that, you know, that came out with Jim saying that because I, you know, I know where this is. It's just about to be a back and forth of disrespect. And again, we don't. We don't need any more of that.

[Rory]

I also heard, being another chatty Patty, Sorry to Harlem. I heard that Elliott might be up there on Monday too, on Cam and Mace's show. I just heard that. I don't know it to be true, but I think a lot of things are going to be addressed.

[Mal]

Oh, okay. Well, that's good. Maybe, you know, they could.

[Rory]

But then Jim should be able to come up the following episode. No clean things up.

[Mal]

If Cam and Mace would have him up there, I mean, you know, why not? I'm all for, you know, guys sitting down and hashing their differences out. Do you think, Matt, I know that they're gonna have to have a talk before the cameras turn on.

[Rory]

Oh, absolutely.

[Mal]

It ain't gonna be. No. Just walk into the studio and let's chop it up on that. It's not gonna go like that.

[Damaris]

But they probably. You sure it's not gonna go like that?

[Mal]

No, it's not like that. It's not gonna. Not with Cam and Jim. That's not going face to face.

[Rory]

I've never seen that. But they've definitely went. When Jim Jones went to Funk Flex and did that interview, then Cam got right on IG Live called Mandeeces. Like that whole hour and a half thing where he crashed Instagram. They've definitely done media shit and not spoken to each other. But face to face, they. I hope they would talk before they would get on camera.

[Mal]

I'm with you on that one. I hope and pray that they have a conversation before getting on camera.

[Rory]

So while I agree with you. Did you like when Math. So Heineken was on lip service recently? Like it. These clips were dropping as we started recording.

[Mal]

I saw clips. I didn't. I didn't see. I didn't see much of it. I just saw like a short clip. But I Didn't. I didn't. I didn't see much of it. You were listening to it when I walked in earlier. Yeah.

[Rory]

So, I mean, we can only cover what we know at this point. By the time we're recording, there's only been clips. But I had heard even from Kim Osario that this had happened. And we had saw a photo of Math and them together and thought things were a little bit, you know, at least resolved to some degree that they could be in the same place. And then Space Ghost had mentioned that Math just hopped in that picture. They didn't even know that that photo was even going to be a thing. But I think this is great when people are at least in a place that they can sit down and argue about how the fallout happened. Some situations are too far past that and that won't happen. But even though this clip is super heated and we can say everything's good for content, but these are still real people and have real feelings and this is really their lives. I'm curious to see where it ended, because sometimes. Let me ask everyone in the room, once you have these conversations and hash everything out, even if it's on camera, what is the real goal and resolution here? Peace of mind for yourself or content? It's content, which I'm fine with. I don't think there's anything wrong.

[Mal]

Everybody. Everybody want to make content, man. Because obviously there's money in content and everybody's trying to get a check. You know, I understand it, but, you know, sometimes situations are beyond content. Sometimes situations are very serious, very personal, and that's when you can't try to turn that into content. But, you know, I think that when people know that, okay, this situation, yeah, we feel away about each other and it may be a little tension here, but it's not nothing that we can't sit down and talk about. Even if the conversation gets heated, we can still sit and have a conversation about it.

[Rory]

And I'm not saying this is the case with Math Heineken or Essa or anything Bag Fuel, Math Alpha related. I do speculate because I can put myself in these positions because we've been through something not similar, but you could attach it to a podcast breaking up. A lot of times people are not here to resolve anything or be friends again or find peace. They're trying to clean up their image to the public and the podcast community because they've looked nuts in that process. So they're trying to make themselves look like the good guy in the situation because rumors have went around that's why I think some of these conversations are pointless. Cause we're not here to resolve anything. We're here for you to have an attempt to clean up your image for some fuck shit you may have done.

[Mal]

Well, that's why I said, you gotta understand, you know, the people you're talking about, it's subjective. Who's sitting down, who's talking? Because like you said, a lot of people are on that side of, you know, they're just trying to clean up an image and just try not to look crazy in the public and things like that, where it's not a sincere conversation. It's not no real end to the conversation or reconciliation. It's like, oh, well, you know, the Internet thinks I'm a piece of shit because of this, that, and the third. Or let me clean that up, because I don't want people thinking that. Again, it's subjective. Who's sitting down, who's talking to who, what happened? You know, why was there fallout this, that, and the third? What was said after that? Was there any lines that were crossed? You know, once you look at those things, then it's like, okay, then, yeah, sit down and have a conversation. Because that may be able to be fixed and reconciled.

[Rory]

Well, I'm gonna watch and we can come back next episode with a full, full breakdown of this entire thing. Cause I am curious, just as a podcast fan, not even being a part of this space, how they res. Not resolved, how they finished this conversation and where the it went. I'm glad. I mean, I'm glad. From my understanding, there was no actual, real physical.

[Mal]

So, I mean, everything is great. I don't. Yeah, I don't know. When people get upset, man, now people get upset. That's why, again, you know, it depends on what happened. But I don't want to see, you know, these guys in particular that we're talking about. I don't want to see them turning into anything physical. That would just be, like, real, real stupid.

[Rory]

Are you gonna put hands on. What's his name? Chris. Chris Blake Griffin's name.

[Mal]

I don't even know who that is.

[Rory]

I'm trying to lighten up the mood here.

[Damaris]

What is his full name?

[Rory]

I think it's Chris Blake Griffin. No, Blake Griffin.

[Mal]

Chris Blake Griffin, the basketball player. Like, is that.

[Rory]

No, no, no, no. Not Blake Griffin. This is Chris Blake Griffin.

[Damaris]

Chris. It is Chris Blake Griffin.

[Rory]

Like, there's Michael Jordan and there's Michael B. Jordan.

[Damaris]

Griffith. Not Griffith.

[Mal]

Chris Blake. Griffith.

[Rory]

Griffith.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Griffith. Come on.

[Mal]

I don't. I don't who is he?

[Damaris]

He's a clothing designer. He was attacked and robbed by Stefan Diggs brother, and to his friends.

[Mal]

Stefan Diggs's brother?

[Damaris]

Yes.

[Mal]

Okay, gotta emphasize that. I thought you said Stefan Diggs. I was like, what?

[Rory]

This was last year. So this guy is a clothing designer and an aspiring artist.

[Mal]

Okay.

[Rory]

And he.

[Mal]

He's a what?

[Rory]

An aspiring artist.

[Mal]

Okay.

[Rory]

What's wrong with that?

[Mal]

No, he's a clothing designer and an aspiring artist.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

What if he raps? Yeah, he's like Ray Vaughan. Okay, got it.

[Rory]

Is Rayvon a clothing designer now?

[Mal]

All right, either way, he's an aspiring artist.

[Rory]

Don't. Don't try to play stupid with this situation, because I know you was on the line with the boy during this whole back and forth.

[Mal]

I honestly don't know what this is.

[Rory]

Drake had unfollowed this gentleman. I'm just giving you the information that was given to us. There's been multiple reports that everything's fake or everything is actually real.

[Mal]

Okay.

[Rory]

Drake unfiled this gentleman. I guess they had some form of a relationship. He wanted Drake to post his mixtape that was outing Stefon Diggs brother and them beating him up, trying to hide the fact that Stefan Diggs is gay and was trying to fuck Chris. Blake Griffith.

[Mal]

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

[Rory]

Yeah, no, it's nasty.

[Mal]

Wait, what? Stephon Diggs is gay?

[Rory]

This. No, we don't know that. And if he is.

[Mal]

Wait, Damaris, he's not.

[Damaris]

They're saying that Stefan Diggs tried to make a zesty move on Chris.

[Mal]

Who is they? See, we got to get to that, because when you say they're saying that Stephon Diggs tried to make a zesty. Sources. Okay, that helps. Sources.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

All right. Sources. So sources say Stefon Diggs is gay.

[Damaris]

Sources say that Stefan tried to make a move on Chris. Chris turned him down, so that Diggs sent his brother and his friends to beat Chris up. So Diggs. I mean, Chris got beat up and robbed.

[Mal]

Okay, okay.

[Rory]

Because he was holding on to the secret that Stefan is, in fact, a homosexual.

[Mal]

Okay?

[Rory]

So they went. They went to Stylist Lob City and beat him up in an elevator with a camera. This was a long time ago, okay? But these DMS leaked because this guy was asking Drake, who he has somewhat of a relationship with, to support his music. Because, you know, Drake naturally is just going to post somebody's random mixtape about an element.

[Mal]

Naturally.

[Rory]

You know, if you think about it, though, he did recently post Solange coming out of the elevator, which was a fight. So Chris was probably like, if you're doing the elevator promo, like, support my mixtape. I got the footage with TMZ too.

[Mal]

Yeah, I got an elevator camera.

[Rory]

So Drake replied, and we're not gonna go through entire messages. They went back and forth where he was like, bro, I don't think you should be doing. There's other routes to go with this. Like, this is almost some snitching type shit. I can't really be involved with this.

[Mal]

Right.

[Rory]

And then Chris, naturally with the response was like, but, bro, you snitching on umg, Like, I thought we was. I thought we was all snitching.

[Mal]

It's the same shit I thought to.

[Rory]

Somebody I thought was snitch.

[Mal]

I thought we was all telling I'm out in Stefan Diggs. You out in umg. Like, yeah, it's the same.

[Rory]

I thought we was all singing a high note together.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Remember when everyone rattling the wire together in season three? Like, I thought we were all doing that. All getting McDonald's.

[Mal]

And if we outing people like it, let's. Let's do a collab.

[Rory]

We're stronger together.

[Mal]

You're right. Right. I get it.

[Rory]

6 9. Could do an interlude, like something we could figure out here.

[Mal]

It makes sense.

[Rory]

So Drake gave a whole response of the difference with his situation. It wasn't street shit at all. We've broken down the UMG thing already. He did mention a very interesting fact, which is coming off the legs of the Fighting Irish freestyle. He said it would be like if Nike was funding a campaign about LeBron cheating on his wife. Not Adidas or Reebok Nike, the company he's been since he started. In comparison to Universal Funding. Yeah, the pedophile record.

[Mal]

Right.

[Rory]

This guy. And I don't. I don't again want to put stuff on people's name anymore. 2024. I put too much on game.

[Mal]

So wait, screenshot.

[Rory]

This guy seems a little unstable. If I'm Drake, I'm not sending this much information or a DM like this to somebody like this.

[Mal]

I mean, this could.

[Rory]

You're too erratic. I. I'm. Nah, I'll get screenshotted.

[Mal]

Yeah, but this could not be real too.

[Damaris]

I mean, well, Drake apparent. Well, that's. That's where all of this scandal is coming from. Because Drake had academic say that it wasn't real. Academics came out like, yo, the boy told me that those. Those screenshots are fake.

[Mal]

Okay.

[Damaris]

So when that happened, the guy Chris added academics and in a. In a video, like a screen recording, and was like, don't let Karen lie to you like that, broski. Now I'm thinking of what else homie done lied about. So the guy was like, basically after he. After Drake told academics these are not real. Those aren't real. He came out with a screen recorded video. Like, these are real. Like, he's lying. These are real. Screenshots, shots.

[Mal]

Okay, so.

[Rory]

But I don't even. Let's say that conversation actually happened. I don't think Drake said anything insane where I would be like, yo, these are fake. He seemed pretty logical in his conversation with this guy.

[Mal]

Yeah. So maybe.

[Rory]

Maybe it's bad timing. And I think that's why they were leaked coming off the drake freestyle, dissing LeBron and then adds in that weird little tidbit. But that's why I wouldn't be DMing people like this, things like that. So, yeah, I think these are real. I don't. I don't think these are fake. I think Drake actually DM that guy and said that.

[Mal]

But let's say. Let's.

[Rory]

Okay, let's just pick a different comparison Drake, because everyone's adding things up.

[Mal]

What do you mean adding things up?

[Rory]

The Internet, which is not something Drake can really control. It's just been bad situation after bad situation with the perception of him. I didn't feel like Drake said anything about LeBron that it, I guess, inferred that he had been cheating on his wife. I think that whole perception thing was more of a Cole thing than it was fully a LeBron thing. They were saying on the Internet Drake was going to expose LeBron for cheating on his wife, which I thought was nuts. Then these came out and everyone hit my mentions and were like, told you.

[Mal]

So people are trying to tie what he's. The comparison he's making. Like, it would be like if Nike was supporting.

[Rory]

This was more credence to the theory that Drake was eventually going to tell the world that LeBron cheats on his wife.

[Mal]

Which, I mean, people are just.

[Rory]

I don't know, man.

[Damaris]

All right, I'm not. I know y'all, but I'm not rolling with. We can't. We not. We're not doing that in 2025. That's one thing we not doing is saying, oh, people are just making up crazy things. I don't think that people. The Internet do. Do a lot of weird, corny drawing non comparison. But that one line. We ever tarnish your public image mixed with that of you saying you didn't just come up with that random scenario in your. Out of all the scenarios, you you could have came up with. That's the scenario you came up with with LeBron cheating on his wife.

[Rory]

I'm not saying now that these dms are out, I'm not saying that's a crazy thing to connect. But when we were initially arguing it, these DMs had not surfaced at all. Oh, yeah. People were literally going off just the bar, God forbid we ever tarnish your public image. I'm supposed to immediately think that that means he's going to tell the world that LeBron James cheats on his wife. That's why I thought the Internet was crazy now with this new shit. Yeah, I think it's bad timing because it definitely goes to their theory. But their theory came out of nowhere. Like, that's odd. Just say you guys think LeBron cheats on his wife. That's what you took from that bar.

[Damaris]

That's been rumored before, though. And I'm not rumoring that, but that's.

[Mal]

Been cheated on his wife.

[Rory]

That's a rumor.

[Mal]

So I'm glad you said that. That's been rumored before. What does that have to do with Drake if that's been rumored before? That's why us saying that the Internet saying this like, oh, Drake is gonna out him is stupid. Because it's been rumored before any of this Drake Kendrick shit, Drake universal shit ever came about. So now people are trying to say, oh, if he takes the line, oh, God forbid we. We destroy your public. We tarnish your public image. That means, oh, he's gonna out LeBron for infidelities. Like, that's just stupid.

[Damaris]

Well, yeah, no, the line alone, no. Because I agree that about. That it could possibly be about Cole. I agree. When we talk about that.

[Mal]

Yeah. So that's why what we're saying is, like, the Internet is gonna take things and try to spend. That's what the Internet does. And to an extent, that's what the Internet is supposed to do. It's a bunch of people jumping in, you know, expressing their opinions. We understand that, but we need to try to stay as close to facts and the truth as possible. That's our job. Like, okay, we get it, the noise. He's gonna out LeBron as being a cheater. I get that some people are gonna scream that. More people than not are gonna scream. The facts, though. But the facts aren't as loud because people who gossip, people bullshit.

[Damaris]

What are the facts in this? You bring it up.

[Mal]

The fact to me, as far as I'm concerned, is that he was making what appears to be in his dm. If this is in fact him and Blake Griffin Griffith, excuse me, dm. He's making the correlation to where somebody would understand it. Basically, like you have the biggest guy in this sport, in this realm, and then you're gonna try to destroy his public image with infidelities. Whereas they tried to destroy Drake's public image with the craziest shit ever. Pedophilia. So he's just trying to explain it to this guy. Like it would be like this. Here's. Here's LeBron, here's Kevin Durant, both two of the biggest Nike athletes. It would be like Nike funding because KD is the new hot athlete or what? They're trying to make him the new hot athlete because now he's with Golden State. And Golden State is like, we're gonna put the swoosh everywhere because Golden State is the hottest team in the league. So now we're gonna destroy your public image. Not only we gonna destroy it, we're gonna fund it. Whereas LeBron built carried Nike for the past 15 years.

[Rory]

No, we get the comparison that he was trying to make. It's to grip it. It's just the timing where the Internet I feel pulled out of that freestyle with Drake exposing LeBron. But then this came out and it validated everyone in their conspiracy.

[Mal]

Did it?

[Rory]

Yeah. People that are on Twitter that have conspiracies love to be validated by things that you can't prove. But there's a welcome to conspiracy.

[Damaris]

But I also think that, like, yes, people draw conspiracies. And I'm not saying what Drake did or didn't mean. I don't know Drake. But what I will say is when thing when you go to grab a comparison, you're grabbing that's at the top of your brain. If you don't believe that and that's not what you were referencing, like everybody's claiming, then why is that at the top of your brain? Because damn near every fucking major athlete in the world is married. You could have said anybody, anybody. And then on top of that, which made it worse, because if he would have just let it breathe, that's fine. You had act go on and say that it was lies. And then the guy sends the video screens.

[Mal]

Well, we don't know if he had. If he had him do that.

[Rory]

Well, because we're in 2025 and like we said, we're trying to find positivity and peace. I think what everyone is overlooking, we finally found some ground that Pusha T and Drake can agree on. Exposing Lebron James for cheating. Finally. Maybe we'll. Maybe Drake will be on this clips album in 2025.

[Mal]

You pumping bad dope right now.

[Damaris]

Pumping bad?

[Rory]

What you mean?

[Mal]

No, I'm trying to. You trying to. You trying to throw validity into LeBron cheese?

[Rory]

No, I'm not.

[Mal]

That's exactly what you just did.

[Rory]

I. I watched Drake make a comparison and then I watched Pusha T. Whatever year this was, it was a long time ago until the cast.

[Mal]

1918.

[Rory]

Way before that, bro. Oh, casket 2009. I love that album.

[Damaris]

Oh, wow.

[Rory]

And first of all, rappers just be rapping. But let's not act like used to have this white bitch. She looked like Madonna, though. Heard she's Lebron, but I don't know, like Bron Bron. I had that a long time ago. That was a big deal.

[Mal]

Yeah, you like that? Bron Braun had that a long time ago.

[Rory]

It's a good bar. It is dirty macking and probably does overstep a man code.

[Mal]

Oh, no, it ain't overstep.

[Damaris]

He stomped on it.

[Mal]

It's double dutching the man code. Yeah.

[Rory]

Either way, nine days in, we're already into like a very messy fucking start.

[Mal]

I tried to.

[Damaris]

This is how last year started.

[Mal]

2025. I'm here to listen to all eyes man. Man did all lies on me.

[Damaris]

Are you here to listen to truth too?

[Mal]

But do people care about the truth?

[Rory]

No.

[Mal]

We spent the whole year trying to uncover if people cared about.

[Rory]

I think we internally.

[Mal]

We spent the whole year trying to uncover if people cared anything about the truth. Nobody cares about the truth.

[Rory]

Speaking of we don't know the truth, I did see a headline that Cat Williams was supposed to do Club Shay in January of this year.

[Damaris]

Really?

[Mal]

I thought. No, I thought they. They did it already. And it was supposed to drop that okay to air.

[Rory]

I don't know if I'm ready for that, man. I might have to take the day off and like, really digest another portal that he's about to open. I can't. No one else is exhausted.

[Mal]

Listen, man, we. We only a weekend, but hey, it.

[Rory]

Little baby's putting out of deluxe a week later dissing Gunner. I just want everyone to just love each other. Fabio and TJ can't respect the no smoking sign. It's just so much going on.

[Mal]

But did you to that? So. So Fabio and tj, Lil TJ were on Plague Boy Max's stream. They went by Black Boy Max's. I guess he rented an Airbnb in Brooklyn. In Brooklyn. And he was streaming.

[Rory]

And he also Was streaming with Cash Cobain making beats. And he's been doing this for a week. And then had Fabio and Lil tj.

[Mal]

Yeah, people pull up. Had people pull up, yeah.

[Rory]

In Brooklyn.

[Mal]

And, you know, he told the guys, they listen, there's no smoking allowed in here because the smoke alarm will go off. But I guess he was saying it was like an outdoor area, backyard area where you can go out there and smoke. Very respectful, like, yo, you can't smoke in the house, but you know, you can go back in the back and smoke outside.

[Rory]

Thought it was a very respectful.

[Mal]

Thought that was very respectful.

[Rory]

Triple to quadruple. Not warning, but ask, hey, please don't smoke anything. Yes, Very, very nice about the entire thing. To stranger. I started to feel for him back to, like, palooza days when there would be green rooms. Shit, even when we were at Sirius and would have guests and be like, yo, you guys can't smoke in this corporate office. Been there. It's always awkward, especially if you don't know them. And I'm not here to put any stereotypes. It's a little tougher when it's a bunch of goons.

[Mal]

It's a little tough.

[Rory]

And I'm not stereotyping because TJ said he pulled up with goons.

[Mal]

Yeah, no, it's tough when you. And there's, you know, younger guys and, you know, you know what, they're. They're there for the weed and drink and things like that. But I do understand how someone like Lil TJ could be like, yo, then that was just weird. Then why invite us over here if we can't smoke here?

[Damaris]

Why you can't go somewhere and not.

[Rory]

Smoke or just smoke outside real quick.

[Mal]

No, again, I understand both sides of it. I'm just saying I. I can see how if a rapper is invited somewhere, like, yo, we're gonna go stream here. We're going to somebody's house. Most of the times you go to somebody's house, you can smoke in the house. It's not many people that be like, nah, you can't smoke in the house. Some people, you can't smoke in the house. I've seen both sides of it. I just think that I can understand how if we know we're going to somebody's stream and it's like, okay, like, all right, we going to sit over here. Chop it up. I do see how. Telling people to go outside and smoke, how young guys from the hood would kind of take that. Like, what you mean we gotta go outside, like, to smoke? Like, we can't Smoke in here. Like, this is a house. It's not like we in a restaurant or we're in a fucking airport or, you know, it's like, we in a house. We can't smoke in the house. Like, no. So I see how. No, I get it. Listen, and I have. I understand smoke etiquette. I understand smoke etiquette. If you can't. If somebody say, you can't smoke it here, no problem. I don't need to smoke that bad. I could be like, all right, cool. Like, just gimme a bottle of water. I sit on the stream, talk shit. But I do understand how you asking young 21, 22 year olds, yo, now don't smoke in here. It's gonna be like, what? Like what you mean I can't smoke in here? I understand both sides of it. I don't think Plaqueboy Max was wrong. I think that he was very respectful in the way he said it. I think that he expressed it a couple times. But I do understand how somebody like Lil TJ and his friends would be like, yo, what type of shit is this? Like, fuck you mean we can't smoke in. I understand both sides of it. It's a weird situation where I understand both sides, but I can lean more towards Plaque Boy Max. It's like, bro, I rented this Airbnb. The smoke alarm's gonna go off. I'm not trying to get kicked out.

[Damaris]

Of this Airbnb and other Airbnbs from for the future.

[Mal]

This is under my name. This might be under my company's name. Like, I don't wanna get banned. So I understand. And I don't think that Plaque Boy Max was disrespectful in the way he told them to smoke outside side.

[Rory]

I guess I'll give you some bail on seeing both sides. And we'll give bail to a 23 year old and his friends about wanting to smoke and they're on stream and people usually smoke on stream, Whatever. And he said he didn't even know Plaque Boy Max. He was there for fao. But if you respect Fabio, wouldn't you respect the rules then? If I'm. I came on your behalf.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

And that's your man. I would want to respect the rules.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Fabio was smoking. Did he get Twice. I feel like when I watched it, Fabio respected it for a second. He snuck one and was like, all right, cool. I think it was everyone else after that. But even then, Fabio, I feel like if you're invited, respect the rules. It's the arrogant reply that Lil Tj did after that, I thought was kind.

[Mal]

Of nuts, but I understand. I understood what they were saying. If I walk somewhere and it smells like weed, like people was in here smoking, I'm gonna be like, okay, somebody's in here. I smoke. People was obviously in smoking. I'm gonna light up now if you tell me, yo, you gotta smoke in the back. Can't smoke here. Cool, bro. I respect it. I'll go outside. But if I walk in, because I've done that, I've walked in clubs or lounges or whatever, and I smell weed, I'm like, oh, they smoking it. All right, cool. Like, I could light up now once security come and be like, yo, you gotta put that out. No problem. I put it out. So I'm just saying I understand both sides of it.

[Rory]

Okay, I'll put my. My personal situations when I've been with you. Elon Musk hosting snl. Crazy night. Whole city was on fire. Dog Coin in the mall. And I go to a party in Tribeca, Wall street, somewhere in that rich ass area. Penthouse, whatever.

[Damaris]

What was this?

[Rory]

I look up when Elon hosted snl, when Dog Coin died.

[Mal]

Dog Coin is a Dog Coin.

[Rory]

Elon Doge Doja cat.

[Mal]

No, Dogecoin.

[Damaris]

So 2021, May.

[Rory]

So this was 2021 in May. We get there. I wouldn't say I was a plus one, but definitely on mall's name and want to have a certain etiquette of when I'm in there, I am past a bottle of rose. When they had asked if we want anything to drink, that bottle ended up being finished by myself and two other people. The person that gave it to us, that was hosting us, that was Ma's friend, got rightfully so upset that I had smoked an entire bottle of that she had just handed to me to fill a glass. I totally understood that and humbled myself to apologize in the moment and the next day. People make mistakes with etiquette when you're in certain situations that you don't know. There was like 40 fucking people in there. They just passing bottles out. I'm like, all right, well, I mean, I see a whole show, all right, I'll just finish this, right? But no one said I could finish it. So if they're upset, I get it. But you humble yourself at that point. I didn't go the next day and give some arrogant fucking response of, listen, this is who I am. If you give me, I'm killing the whole thing. That is, you know, where the fuck I'm from. Like, who would. Who are you to say that I can't finish this whole bottle of. That's where I'm looking at Lil TJ Crazy, because I've been in the same situation where I've. I've stretched the rules. I've abused the rules in the setting that I was in, did some shit I shouldn't have done. But you don't get on, and with a whole bunch of money in your hand for no reason, you weren't even counting it.

[Damaris]

He said I could pay for it. Like, oh, I. Fuck it. Okay, you getting trouble.

[Mal]

Yeah, but that's the wrong. That's the wrong response. And again, we talking about young guys.

[Rory]

Nice to you. Like, nice.

[Damaris]

And then he said. He was like, I ain't. Like, the way he said it, like, some yo can't smoke in here. And that's not. It's on camera. It was streamed. That's not what he said.

[Mal]

Yeah, but again, that's why I said, you know, you got to be. Because these young guys, you know, anything could be taken disrespectfully. And it's like, again, we talk about young street hood guys that just are not used to authority, which is why a lot of the times, a lot of these guys from these areas. I'm from the same hood. To end up in bad situations where now you have to listen to authority because you have a problem with listening to authority. So somebody says, hey, you can't do that in here. Once you realize this is not your place, whatever that person said, this ain't my crib, bro. Whatever. I bet say no, but that's how it's supposed to go. But when you don't. When you have a problem with authority, it's like, you mean I can't smoke it?

[Rory]

Okay.

[Mal]

It's like you taking it personal, like, you can't smoke ahead, but anybody else can. That's not what he's saying. Nobody can't smoke in here.

[Rory]

I'm not gonna fully give all that bail based on that, because there's plenty of people that I know from that same environment, same circumstance, close to the same age, are some of the most respectful people I've ever met. The actual real street guys that I know are the most respectful human beings I've ever met. Matter of fact, I'll speak up for Fabio. When we did Barclays, which you were backstage, Barclays was terrified. Fabio had the hottest record smoking. He brought 50 people. All 50 of them were some of the most respectful, nice people I've ever met in my life. They were the least of the problems backstage, they moved correctly. So I'm not about to say just because someone's young and from an environment that gives them an excuse to just be an.

[Mal]

Oh, no, I'm not.

[Rory]

Excuse me. I've watched Fabio and his crew.

[Mal]

No, I'm. I'm from some of the.

[Rory]

Most people I deal with in palooza.

[Mal]

Little TJ is from the same hood I grew up in. Like I would. And if when I was his age, if I went somewhere and somebody said, hey, you can't do that in there, I would not be. I would stop doing what I was doing. So I'm just saying I can also understand how guys from a certain upbringing and area have a lack of respect for authority. And this is why it trickles down. And they end up in a position where now you have to listen to authority. Cause when that warden says, get your ass in that cell and lock that cell. You gotta go in the cell now. Because somewhere along the line, I could point to where you had a problem with authority and you had a problem with listening to when people ask you to do something. Yeah, it all correlates with each other. So I'm just saying I understand both sides of it. I understand how Lil TJ could be like, damn, what you mean I can't smoke in here? And I also understand Plaqueboy Max saying, yo, you can't smoke in here. I get both sides of it. That's all.

[Rory]

You think Ruby Rose went through a whole phase?

[Damaris]

Warning, you are about to be subjected to the sounds of men discussing pussy they can't get. Please be advised.

[Mal]

Do I think she went through a whole phase? I don't know her personally, but, I mean, she's had a couple of relationships where I kind of raised my eyebrow like, that was fast.

[Rory]

Wait, being in a relationship makes you a hoe? Now, see, I can't keep up with these new rules.

[Mal]

Not being in a relationship makes you a hoe. But if you was just in a relationship and broke up with somebody and then two weeks later you're sitting on somebody else's lap, it's like, that's the.

[Rory]

Opposite of a hoe. That's a serial monogamous.

[Damaris]

Serial monogamous.

[Rory]

You're so monogamous, you have to get in a full blown relationship.

[Mal]

Whatever words y'all want to put on it, have at it. I'm just saying I could see how somebody would kind of put that tag on Ruby Rose based off her dating history. I can see it.

[Rory]

Well, why?

[Mal]

I don't know her. I'm not calling Her a hoe. I don't know her.

[Rory]

I don't think you are, but.

[Mal]

Yeah, but I could see how. Yeah, you were just in a relationship with somebody, and then you break up, and then a week later, you sitting on somebody else lap. And then a month after that, you and some mama be like, yo, wasn't she just dating with.

[Damaris]

But I've never seen. I haven't seen that happen with Ruby Rose, maybe. Are you referring to the Drew Ski thing?

[Mal]

I don't even think that was real.

[Rory]

She said it wasn't.

[Mal]

Yeah, I don't think that was real. So. No, I'm not. I'm not referring to that. I'm just saying, like, you can comment me.

[Rory]

That's more hoe behavior to make out on camera as a, like, PR ploy than it would be if they actually dated. But I have different definition of hoes than y'all.

[Mal]

Do you do?

[Rory]

I. I think hoeing yourself. I think quickly. All right, you know what? I. I'm contradicting myself as I'm saying it, because I don't know, do we compare that to when someone's acting on camera? I don't think you're a hoe if you kiss your co star on camera. And we're in a new world where everything on IG is pretty much acting.

[Mal]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Rory]

I think it's way more hoe to do that and just pretend to be in relationships and make out with people that you actually don't like for some type of gain with notoriety or money. But I don't know. I don't really pay attention to Ruby Rose outside of, like, the photos that end up in my timeline.

[Mal]

I think she's beautiful.

[Rory]

So I'll say.

[Mal]

Yeah, I don't know much about Ruby, but this all started because Shenzia had tweeted beautiful, by the way. Gorgeous. She had tweeted, I never had a whole phase. I don't want none either. Lol. What's fun about being ran through? And then Ruby Rose tweeted, retweeted same, because you the. And she put a smirking.

[Rory]

Also a girl that I think reads the room very well and did that purposely because she knows that a lot of Twitter thinks she's a hoe because she's dated, like, a rapper or two or something.

[Damaris]

That's why she put the little smirking thing.

[Mal]

Yeah, she knew it was kind of like, you know how. Lol. Yeah, it was being sarcastic. It was, you know, playing off of what Shinsia had said.

[Damaris]

But does a whole phase make you Ran through, like, a whole phase. Because there's a difference between being a lifelong. A lifelong hoe, and then somebody who has a whole phase. When I think whole phase, I think like a year. Like, you was being a. Who you. A year or two, you were being more promiscuous than you ever been in your life. That's what I think is a whole phase.

[Rory]

Nah. Cause moons go through a phase. It's one month. Right?

[Mal]

Right. Something like that.

[Rory]

Moon created the phases, right?

[Mal]

Maybe.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

It's been around before.

[Rory]

So the moon, that's one month. Yeah. You get. You get two days to be a full moon, Rory.

[Mal]

Or to let people see your full moon.

[Rory]

You believe in astronomy? I'm just going off the. The stars. I'm going off your.

[Mal]

Yeah, but again, I don't like to put that whole moniker on or that whole tag on. On women like that. I don't know.

[Rory]

I don't know what is anymore. So I. Yeah.

[Mal]

And then again, y'all change what a hoe is. So. I mean, you know what confuses me.

[Rory]

Because it's such a rudimentary, like, podcast topic now of what is a hoe and body count and all that. I thought this new generation was way more progressive than mine was as far as, like, women and them being promiscuous. They don't care, which I think is fine, as long as everyone's being safe. I was wrong. People are still. Still slut shaming out here.

[Mal]

Oh, I don't think nobody.

[Rory]

But I thought these young people did.

[Mal]

Not care because they all like, who's shaming her, though.

[Damaris]

Nope. It's not just talk about them, period. I'm talking Shinsaya's original tweet never had a whole phase. I don't want none either. What's fun about being ran through? Just the thing of ran. Of ran through. That's joke.

[Mal]

You know, Ran through. We all know the girl in our town and our city don't know what.

[Rory]

Ran through is anymore.

[Mal]

You know, a girl.

[Rory]

That's the definition. Has changed so much since I was.

[Mal]

What do you think being ran through is?

[Damaris]

They was calling Kim Kardashian ran through because all of her exes are famous. So all the people she's dated in the past 30 years. 30, 40 years. Are famous. So then Kim Kardashian's a whore because she's, you know, she slept with.

[Mal]

I think it's the. Again. If you were in a relationship for a year, then you broke up, and then, you know, again, whatever time limit you want to put On. I just think that there's a correlation. Like, damn, like, you gotta. You dating somebody new already. You just got out of a relationship. I think that's called a rebound. Well, yeah, I think that's part of it. I think when multiple, you know, people that are peers and acquaintances are in the same room and they can all say that they slept with you, I think that's part of it.

[Rory]

You can be ran through. Of a group chat.

[Mal]

Yeah, I think all of that adds to it.

[Damaris]

Yes, but when we're talking about celebrities here, like, people will say, lori Harvey's ran through. Right. Because all of her exes might be in the same room. But if I'm famous and I'm dating famous people, and when famous people tend to hang in the same circle, so, yes, we're all gonna, like, run into each other and see each other. I don't think that that makes me a whore.

[Mal]

Yeah, but there's a lot of. There's a lot of people that date famous people, and there's not many other famous people that can say that we slept with them.

[Damaris]

Okay, but then there's some people who only date people that are. That they will consider on their level, which are other famous people.

[Mal]

And then there's people that don't sleep with a bunch of other people that are on their level.

[Damaris]

But you keep saying a bunch of other people. What I'm referring to when I'm bringing up people like Ruby Rose, like the Kim Kardashian, it looks like a bunch because we know about them all because they're all famous. Like, so any people have exes, whatever. But if your exes are well known and your pictures are all over the place, then it's like, oh, she slept with a bunch of people.

[Mal]

Yeah, but even if you're not, even if who you slept with is not famous, if we all from the same block and 15 of us in the same building could say we've been with you, you rap.

[Rory]

How big is the building?

[Mal]

But okay, you ran through.

[Damaris]

Yes, but that's not what we were. Yes, but it doesn't.

[Mal]

But just because we know we can point to who their exes are because they're famous, that doesn't make it less ran through because, like, oh, no, we just know about them because they're famous.

[Rory]

It's the perception wise, if that's in the Bronx, that 15 people in one building ran through a girl and she ends up going to Brooklyn and no one knows she's not going to have the ran through car because no one knows Anyone in that building in the Bronx.

[Mal]

That doesn't mean she ain't Ruby Rose.

[Rory]

Or these other chicks have.

[Mal]

But that means she's not known. So everyone knows that means she's not ran through.

[Rory]

Yeah, but none is the wiser. Like you wouldn't know to you, do you.

[Mal]

Does that mean she slept with 15.

[Rory]

People in the building? I would say that's. Yes, that. That would be ran through.

[Mal]

Something just simple.

[Rory]

If she moves to another burrow and no one knows, she still ran through Brooklyn.

[Mal]

Brooklyn didn't run her yet, though. Brooklyn didn't get their lap reformed.

[Rory]

Okay.

[Mal]

I mean, that. That could be.

[Rory]

Now that could be true. But now I'm saying that girl that was ran through with 15 guys in one building. That would probably be the definition of a hoe. And I'm not hoe shaming. If you want a hoe, hoe safely.

[Mal]

It's your box.

[Rory]

Yeah. It's your body. Do what you want. That girl could have less of a reputation when she leaves that building because no one knows who she slept with when Ruby rose. And don't quote me younger people that listen to this podcast. I don't know she's dated because we know she's dated Travis Scott and Playboi Carti. Now that makes her more of a hoe than the person that fucked 15 people in their own building. That's not more of a hoe. Just because, you know the people she fucked does not make her a hoe.

[Mal]

No, just because you know who she slept with doesn't mean she's a hoe. No, but I think that, again, it's a. It's a certain type of pattern that makes you a hoe. I think it's a pattern that makes you a hoe.

[Rory]

Liking famous people.

[Mal]

No, liking famous people doesn't make you a hoe. I think that if you're running around sleeping with a bunch of famous people and we can point to all of them like, yo, damn. Like, you. You got. You. You've been passed around. All of these dudes know each other. They hang out with some of them in movies together. Some of them got albums together. Like you've been passed around.

[Rory]

That's.

[Damaris]

I hate that term. I hate that term because a lot.

[Rory]

Of these people are not really friends like that they know each other. Cause they're both famous. That's the only relationship they have is that they both have famed.

[Mal]

Okay. That's a fact. Do. Do we know some women that have slept with real friends?

[Rory]

Of course.

[Mal]

All right, so would you say famous or not.

[Rory]

Yeah, of course.

[Mal]

So if you. If you do that, I have me.

[Rory]

And a few of my friends, and.

[Mal]

Y'All look at that.

[Rory]

That insane. I don't like it.

[Mal]

Y'all look at.

[Rory]

I wish I would have known.

[Mal]

Y'all look at her as what? Ran through.

[Rory]

Yeah. And I also wish I would have known, because I don't like to do that.

[Damaris]

But that's not the. You coming up with scenarios when we talking about one original tweet that was on a thing of having a whole face and being ran. Having a whole phase and being ran through not being the same thing. It is, okay?

[Mal]

You can't be a hoe if you're not ran through.

[Rory]

That's not true. Because I think if somebody.

[Mal]

What? Hoe ain't ran through.

[Rory]

What if we know the origin of.

[Damaris]

The word hoe when we're talking about hoe? First of all, you can be a hoe.

[Mal]

Yes.

[Damaris]

If we talking about the origin of the word hoe, you could be a hoe and have one fucking body. If you sold your body to one person, you're a hoe. If we talking about the origin.

[Mal]

No, no, no, no.

[Damaris]

If we're talking about the.

[Mal]

You brought up the origin. You can't be a hoe and be.

[Rory]

And.

[Mal]

And sold your body to one person. That's not a hoe.

[Rory]

Okay.

[Mal]

That's not a hoe.

[Rory]

Let me give you a different scenario. Someone that's not a ho. Somebody that lost their virginity to somebody they married. Right? And then she ends up not liking her husband and then go fucks his brother behind her back. Is that a whole move?

[Mal]

Absolutely.

[Rory]

She has two bodies.

[Mal]

Okay.

[Damaris]

She's not read.

[Mal]

But what she. But that would be ran through. If I fucked you on brother. Fucked you, you ran through.

[Rory]

Okay, what are you talking about here? She fucks a stranger, fuck somebody at work, fuck somebody that's not tied to her husband. She went behind her husband's back to fuck somebody else. Is that not a hoe?

[Mal]

That's hoe shit for sure.

[Rory]

Okay. She has two bodies. I ran through.

[Mal]

That we know of.

[Rory]

I'm saying in this hypothetical scenario, we know for a fact this woman lost her virginity to her husband and cheated once with one other person. Only two dicks have entered that woman's body. That's a whole move. That's a hoe. But she only has two bodies.

[Mal]

That pattern. You sleeping with me, taking your virginity married to me, and then you go sleep with my brother. That type of pattern is a whole.

[Damaris]

Brother out of it. He took the brother out of it changed it to a stranger.

[Mal]

Still. Still a whole move.

[Damaris]

Yes, it's a whole move. But if you're married through it doesn't make you ran through. And it's not a pattern because it felt it's only happened once. So that's not a pattern.

[Mal]

So what's ran through these as the woman in the room, what's ran through to you?

[Damaris]

When I think of ran through I think of it's like niggas know like it's ran like it's just. It's in and out. It's a revolving door. When I'm referring. When people are referring to a whole phase. Everybody can think of hoe phase differently. And I think people think of it so drastically. I have homegirls that have two fucking bodies. They got their heartbroken. They went and slept with three dudes in one year and they considered that a hoe phase and never did it again. Or you can I'm going out and I'm dating da da da. I had a one night stand. That was my hoe phase. It doesn't automatically.

[Mal]

Automatically put the. You put whole phase on when you just was doing that.

[Damaris]

When you're doing that you don't normally do subjective.

[Rory]

And that's why I never understood these conversations because I don't even know what the definition of like ran through or a hoe is. What is the number that makes it ran through? Like I just don't. I don't understand these com.

[Mal]

The number subjective.

[Rory]

And like again some women sleep with.

[Mal]

100 guys and feel like they ain't ran through. Yeah cuz it's like 100 guys over 15 years.

[Rory]

I mean I think that's a lot for any human being. But that's just me.

[Mal]

Would you look at her as ran through?

[Rory]

I think anyone. Yes. That has 100 bodies. Some women wouldn't in 15 years has probably ran through.

[Mal]

Some people wouldn't.

[Rory]

I don't think there's anything wrong if you want to do that in a healthy way.

[Damaris]

I think in a truthful way is.

[Mal]

The girl is the girl that slept with how many guys did that girl, that porn star sleep?

[Damaris]

Yes, she's a whole. She's ran through.

[Mal]

She's that whole phase. Was that a whole phase or she ran through.

[Damaris]

She's ran through.

[Mal]

That was a whole day.

[Damaris]

A whole day. Whole day for the whole day. But I just. I was. The reason why we're even having this conversation is because of Shinsei. I don't care about Ruby Rose. I know she was Being sarcastic.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Shinsei's original tweet coming off Rory saying that he thinks that this generation would be more progressive than our generation.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Number one shouldn't say is your generation.

[Rory]

That is true. I'm more talking about.

[Damaris]

And also to the young kids.

[Rory]

Ruby Rose is like. Like they're Marilyn Monroe. Like they. They idolize. Yes. These young kids, which is a very beautiful girl.

[Damaris]

I used to treat. What was that? Who? That girl you like with the curly hair.

[Rory]

India Love. We never.

[Damaris]

India Love.

[Rory]

India Love was never our Maryland, bro. No disrespect to her, but India Love.

[Damaris]

Was the ig Baddie. Stop. Don't do that.

[Rory]

Kim Kardashian was our Marilyn Monroe.

[Damaris]

Yes, but that's. Kim is a. Kim is an outlier. Kim is different, Pinky.

[Rory]

So is Marilyn Monroe.

[Damaris]

Yes, but Kim is.

[Rory]

She ran through the Kennedys.

[Damaris]

Okay, well, if that's.

[Rory]

That's a. That's not a ran through. That's a run. She went through the whole White House.

[Damaris]

That's also not true.

[Rory]

She. Bobby and John. What are you talking about?

[Damaris]

So how she ran through the whole White House.

[Mal]

It's only two.

[Rory]

There was. You don't think his brother visited.

[Mal]

That's ran through. Marilyn Monroe was ran through for sure. Okay.

[Damaris]

Allegedly, she was ran.

[Rory]

It's not alleged.

[Mal]

No. Her documentary is out, so it's matter of fact.

[Rory]

Why she is so polarized is because she represents somebody that was ran through that took that energy and said, yeah, this. This doesn't make me a bad person.

[Mal]

Remember my body, my choice.

[Rory]

That's the reason why people love her is because she was ran through and owned it.

[Mal]

Yeah, my body, my choice.

[Rory]

She also was 16 year olds. Who's a homie from. That was in the Godfather. I forgot the actor's name. He lost his virginity to her when he was 16 because he was running numbers for the mob. She was every. My boss, every politician.

[Damaris]

That's all alleged. Y'all are talking about what people have reported and said in her. I'm not saying that Marilyn Monroe was.

[Mal]

No, I think she might have stamped it.

[Damaris]

What I'm saying.

[Mal]

Marilyn might have been like.

[Damaris]

Y'all are telling wives tales of people that people allegedly slept with. The same way that when y'all die, y'all wouldn't want getting out here talking about who you allegedly.

[Rory]

Why is Marilyn Monroe. As long as she cute footage, I.

[Mal]

Don'T give a fuck.

[Rory]

Why is she a feminist?

[Damaris]

Because she was allowed to be very. She was very sexy in an era that. That wasn't really the thing to do to be very sexy like that. And yeah, she was definitely alleged to be a hoe. But y'all are putting bodies on her that y'all don't know for sure that she slept with. That's all.

[Mal]

I'm not saying bodies I'm putting on her is the ones that she put on herself.

[Damaris]

Okay.

[Mal]

I'm not naming anybody else. I wouldn't do that. But I think Marilyn wore that proud. I don't. I don't think this is anything new.

[Rory]

How do you think she does?

[Mal]

Did she overdose?

[Rory]

They killed her because she was on a run.

[Mal]

Damn. Killing somebody cuz they on a run.

[Rory]

Is crazy feminist icon and I respect her for it. I do think she is an icon. But let's not say we were slut shaming or we're putting bodies on her when that is why she's actually famous for doing that.

[Mal]

I'm not slut shaming, but I do know that Marilyn Monroe is famous because.

[Rory]

She proudly wore because Augusta wind happened when she was going over a crate on the subway. That's. That's why she's icon.

[Damaris]

Right?

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

According to her autobiography, she slept with 40 men when she was alive.

[Rory]

More power to her. So you don't think any of those are mob bosses, presidents, senators?

[Mal]

You don't think she had a type?

[Damaris]

I'm sure she did. Men in power. She said that she liked men in power.

[Rory]

Okay. So I'm glad we all came to an agreeance that she. That she had a run.

[Mal]

Yeah, she had a run. Bodies with like inflation.

[Rory]

Peach makes a great point. Peach with inflation. 40 bodies in 19.

[Mal]

In the 60s. In the 60s, 50s.

[Rory]

60S. Yeah. 40 bodies might be a thousand.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Maybe more.

[Mal]

Maryland forgot about a few for sure. And it's always women were averaging most even number.

[Rory]

That's a hilarious point. Yeah.

[Mal]

Why it's always. Why is it always level 40 men? Why it's never like 37?

[Rory]

Like a chick has never said 19.

[Mal]

Yeah, like why. Why is it always 40? I slept with 40 men in my life.

[Damaris]

Like, no, they always say three. Don't they say three?

[Rory]

But even to mall's point, some of the women that are. Are proud about their promiscuous, if that's even a word.

[Mal]

Promiscuosity. Right. Promiscuity. Promiscuousity. Promiscuity.

[Rory]

We're doing a spelling bee on Patreon next week, by the way.

[Mal]

Are we? Yes. You about to get schmed.

[Damaris]

Spell promiscuity.

[Rory]

P. R. I don't even know if it's A word.

[Mal]

P R O M I s C O U P R O, M I, S. Promiscuous. C O or C U.

[Damaris]

Keep adding that O.

[Mal]

Or is it C U S?

[Rory]

I'm so lost.

[Mal]

Promiscuous.

[Rory]

Wait, what about the letters below him? Peach, can you just put all the letters below promiscuity?

[Damaris]

Yes.

[Mal]

P R O M I s c cuity qity. Is is weird because it could be c o u I t y or c 4e I t y C U I T Y. C O I T Y.

[Damaris]

As long as you took that O out there, that O was pissing.

[Mal]

So it's C U I T Y.

[Rory]

P Y, T. Okay.

[Mal]

See, I mean, y'all, I didn't know what I was spelling that first. Baby.

[Rory]

I love the confidence of C. I got it. It. After all that, I got it.

[Mal]

No, I didn't look it up. I didn't pull it up like, you know I got it. But, you know, it's not a word that I use every day.

[Rory]

But we have to give Ruby Rose credit because I've never heard Marilyn Monroe rap. So she got one up on her. At least she hasn't fucked the president yet.

[Mal]

Who?

[Rory]

Ruby Rose.

[Mal]

Oh, okay. I thought you just want me to.

[Rory]

I think she's gonna fuck Barron Trump.

[Mal]

Nah, that ain't her type.

[Damaris]

Could have fucked your friend, but I heard he got a big mouth.

[Rory]

That's not her type. Why you think that's not her type?

[Mal]

Ruby Rose, she could fuck. She might fuck like a African president. She might go to Africa and get an African president. She ain't gonna fuck no white American president. She ain't gonna do that.

[Rory]

See, now you're gonna make me call her so she'll fuck Travis Scott, Playboi Carti, Ian, all them. But, like, the highest position in the country is where she'll draw the line.

[Mal]

You didn't name a white boy yet.

[Damaris]

You just named. And they all have a similar aesthetic. She got a type. It ain't like you just named a bunch of rich black dudes that look different.

[Rory]

Is this the day I wear the mall hatch that their type is money.

[Damaris]

No, that's not true. That's not their type.

[Rory]

I don't know Ruby Rose. I'm sorry, but I'm going to be mauled today. You are telling me now Barron Trump, that he's 77 NYU student. He's going to be somebody no matter what fucking happens. Whether you like the Trumps or not, Barron Trump is going to be somebody. He even did this whole campaign for his pops and made him win. You're telling me that guy could not fuck Ruby Rose?

[Damaris]

What I'm telling you what I'm telling you. And this is the same conversation that I had with.

[Rory]

This is my mall impression.

[Damaris]

With the clip that we just put on, it's like. I think it's because what men value, y'all see the value in money. So, like, immediately, it's like, money. He got money.

[Rory]

I'm saying no one in this situation is valuing anything.

[Mal]

You value money.

[Damaris]

What I'm saying. What I'm saying is when. When I look at those three gentlemen, like, if my homegirl was be like, yeah, I fucked him, him and him. The first thing I see that they have in common is not going to be money. All of those men have a very similar rock style aesthetic. There's plenty of black 808s and reverb. There's plenty of black men with money that look completely different from them. Autumn look alike and have a lot of shit in common. All I'm saying is it might not just be the money.

[Mal]

Of course.

[Damaris]

She's only.

[Rory]

What did Drewski and Travis Scott have in common?

[Damaris]

All right, so we're gonna.

[Mal]

Now.

[Damaris]

Now she was really dating Drew Ski.

[Mal]

You.

[Damaris]

You're doing a. What's it called? A straw man.

[Rory]

I'd be better at this. This conversation if I actually knew or cared about Ruby Rose's history. And I don't. I actually don't even know if she was with Travis Scott. I only know the Playboi Carti one because I saw the clip where she kind of snitched on herself on Vlad, and it appeared that she was maybe underage when she was with him. Other than that, I honestly do not know who she slept with. I'm just saying.

[Mal]

Nor do I.

[Rory]

Nor do I care. This is up. We talk about.

[Mal]

I really don't.

[Rory]

I know she doesn't want to me. And we're talking about a woman's body is some lame, corny men. I'm just saying. Baron Trump is going to clean up with his new generation. That's all I'm saying.

[Mal]

Okay. Okay. That works.

[Damaris]

You want white men to get black so bad.

[Mal]

That same. Same. Do we have any voicemails, Baby D. We have one.

[Damaris]

Y'all want to hear it?

[Mal]

Here. Go. You've got mail.

[Damaris]

M. This one's for you. I feel like you can. I feel like you can relate to homeboy.

[Mal]

Homeboy.

[Rory]

You relate to the homeboys.

[Caller from Baltimore]

All right. What's up with y'all? Nick, man, I've Been messing with this girl for like the past year and a half. Two years. For real?

[Rory]

Always. Baltimore.

[Caller from Baltimore]

I wanted to take her out on a date yesterday. So that's what I did. I planned it all out. We went to two museums. We went to the African American Museum, learned some shit. We went to the Museum of illusions in D.C. it was cool. Then I took out to eat, right? The spot that we had went to has bottomless mimosas, right? Not bottomless mimosas, bottomless lemon drops, right?

[Mal]

Oh my God.

[Rory]

So that's a thing.

[Caller from Baltimore]

She sits down and she tells me this. First thing she says, she says, I don't know if you can handle me because I drink and you don't. I know y'all don't notice. I don't drink. I don't smoke. Please. Sober, right? Not. Not a big deal. Just not something I really want to do.

[Rory]

This sounds like a rough fucking.

[Caller from Baltimore]

It'll be cool, you know what I'm saying? I've experienced girls that drink, smoke, do all that. You can do it. I still like you, you know what I'm saying? So I didn't know the severity of her drinking though. She went and got six lemon drops. Gets toe up and tries to get frisky with me in the restaurant. I'm like, yo, you gotta chill, you feel me? It's a seven year old kid at the table right next to us, scared and confused on what's going on.

[Rory]

Who brought a seven year old to the lemon drop mimosa spot?

[Caller from Baltimore]

And I already know, like how the box is like, it's a one. I ain't gonna lie, it's great. But like, I can't deal with you if you ray get tore up and you can't hold your liquor. You feel me?

[Rory]

Well, before you answer, ma, that was.

[Mal]

The end of it. Yeah, okay.

[Rory]

Is this the same gentleman from Baltimore that always calls in? And I appreciate that. He really bears his soul out to us. If I remember correctly, the last call, he was having some issues with mom. His sister was favored more in that whole situation. He was having trouble getting a job, which we've all been there. It sounds like he's doing good. He's back up, going From Baltimore to.

[Mal]

D.C. now he's at bottomless fee already, bottomless limit.

[Rory]

Now he's doing museum dates, bottomless anything in D.C. that's New York prices. Yeah, that's at least a $250 date. So I just want to say congratulations to a gentleman that calls in all the time that was having a rough patch. Sounds like you up?

[Mal]

Is he? Because he sound like. He sound like he just went through.

[Rory]

In the situation he was in. I'm not saying he picks the right women because we've known that for the last seven calls.

[Mal]

Okay.

[Rory]

He is the worst judge of character when it comes to dating.

[Mal]

No discernment.

[Rory]

But we have given him a lot of bail on certain situations. I do think he's right a lot this time. Listen man, why you? Why are you taking the girl that drinks to the bottomless lemon drop? I didn't know that existed. And you don't drink. That's a setup for failure.

[Mal]

Well, let's talk.

[Rory]

You're babysit at that.

[Mal]

Well, where can you go on a date period if you don't drink or smoke? I mean you already kind of limiting your date options because if you're going to go out to eat and well.

[Rory]

Not everyone to be an alcoholic you can. I went out with women that don't drink and we're not going to a bottomless mimosa spot. We'll go get dinner and I'll have a glass to a wine but if she's not drinking, I'm not going to go.

[Mal]

But they obviously went out they obviously went out to a brunch.

[Rory]

But I'll go to the bottomless mimosa spot with a the drinks cuz we'll have fun. He but not babysitter.

[Mal]

Not if you don't know.

[Rory]

Of course not.

[Mal]

Yeah, so that's what I'm saying. So what?

[Damaris]

But it seems like they went to the restaurant and discovered they had bottom. I don't think he knew about the bottomless limit drop spot because he doesn't drink. I think he went there and they.

[Mal]

Threw okay, so they threw a curveball at my man.

[Rory]

They didn't know he DC in the daytime everything's bottom.

[Damaris]

Why do you think it's D.C. in the daytime? He said he took her to two museums and then they went and had dinner. That's not the day for him.

[Mal]

All right, well he named the illusions exhibit in D.C. last and then he said they went to E. So I'm.

[Rory]

Guessing they stayed in D.C. 7 year old there. This is definitely after and if you.

[Mal]

Gonna go out to eat and you're in D.C. at a museum already, you're not gonna leave D.C. to go back to Baltimore to eat. You gonna go out?

[Damaris]

No, but that's what I'm saying. I think it was. He said dinner so it was probably around 5:00.

[Rory]

He probably went to barcode by accident.

[Mal]

Nah, by accident. You don't go to Barcode by accident.

[Rory]

Oh, I've went intentionally every time.

[Mal]

Yeah, you don't go to Barcode.

[Rory]

Barcode. BC Peach can tell you legendary Sundays.

[Mal]

I just think that, damn, it's nothing worse than he went to Rosebud. You don't drink and a girl gets drunk and like, y'all on a date. That's some of the worst shit in the world. That's the. That's a recipe for a natural disaster. Like, you don't drink, you're completely sober, and your date is fucking going crazy on bottomless lemon drops. And then now she's getting handsy. She trying to grab your package. She trying to check if you got mail. It's a 7 year old right next to y'all in the other booth. He's probably never seen anything like that in real life. You trying to get here. Yeah. You trying to play cool and be like, yo, shorty, chill. You wilding. You can only say you wilding three times before. It's like, all right, now you bugging the out.

[Damaris]

You only wild three times.

[Mal]

You can only wild three times. And it's like, y'all, yo, can I get the check if she. She bugging that. Now you like, what are you. Now it's an argument. Now you sloppy. Now she get. Cause you know when she trying to get frisky and she see you ain't really with it. That's an argument. Now you're arguing at the spot. The teacher. Now you ain't no fun. You boring. Then she don't let your girl call you boring and then pick her phone up. Cause that means she texting a fun.

[Rory]

That. That. No, she's. First she's hitting the group chat and saying, girl, this is why I don't date like that. And then she's immediately texting the guy that will answer the fun.

[Mal]

Dude that's at home on G. He's.

[Rory]

Across the street at a day party.

[Mal]

She about to text the Y. N that's at home on GTA and say, what you doing? He ain't gotta feed her. He ain't gotta give her no hydration. She lit. She gonna pull her right to the wine house and he gonna nail your all day date on the bed with no sheets. Definitely his mattress and headboard with the yn.

[Rory]

It's the last time I give a good guy a chance. That's why I can't fuck with him. And all he was doing was minding his business, eating his fucking dinner. Her. Yeah, that.

[Mal]

And then she started that's even rough.

[Rory]

When it's your girl and she goes out with her friends to do the bottomless mimosa and she comes home and that's your girl.

[Mal]

No, it's.

[Rory]

And then she arguing with you like, yo, can you relax for a second? It's a full art shower.

[Mal]

Because then they get drunk and. And then they attack your religion. You don't drink? What are you a Muslim or something? Like what?

[Rory]

Oh, you a Muslim now?

[Mal]

I just don't drink, shorty. I just.

[Rory]

Young woman, you got a problem?

[Mal]

You alcohol? No, like, I just don't drink. Now y'all arguing. Date's over. The date is ruined. You thought you were setting up a crazy good all day. Cause there's nothing better than an all day date. And y'all having fun. Like, y'all out from 11:30.

[Rory]

I'm from New York. That's our style.

[Mal]

We're going 10 different spots. Meet up at noon. Two museums or a museum and a little illusions exhibit. Oh, come on. You get. Get her pictures off. Snap some pictures for her she don't even know you took. Then you can airdrop them to her when y'all go eat. You know what I'm saying? She like, Riz.

[Damaris]

Riz, my.

[Rory]

I'm just saying, ball off the lemon drops is crazy. I know you was giving it up like that.

[Mal]

I don't drink lemon drops. Don't play with me like that.

[Damaris]

You won't sip it. If she say, oh, my God, this is really good. Well, you won't sip it.

[Mal]

Don't drink. I don't drink.

[Damaris]

But you won't taste it.

[Mal]

Nah, I never would.

[Damaris]

If she say, taste cameras, I'm gonna.

[Mal]

Be like, taste what?

[Rory]

She gonna be drunk now. She gonna call you gay.

[Mal]

I'm like, I tast get the check and get up out of here. That's when you. You know what I'm saying? But he looked like he was just in full panic mode. She got handsy, she got aggressive. She lit. She don't care about the seven year old boy sitting across from y'all P. She want you to back out the softy on her. She don't care.

[Rory]

Let's say she gets drunk but not so sloppy where she has to, like, really be taken care of. And you think like, all right, cool. It's going good. Nothing about being dead sober and her being drunk the first time, y'all.

[Damaris]

Well, it's not the first time. He said it was good.

[Rory]

Already he's hit with, okay, all right.

[Mal]

Well, I mean, you try to. If you if you already had. If y'all crossed that. That line and been physical already, and now you're out, and she's drunk, and you're just completely sober, you just gonna have to deal with that.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Cause you know it's gonna be. Once we get back to the crib, it's on. Cause we already. We know. But if she wanted right here, right now, that's one of the worst positions as a man you could be in. Like, you sober and your girl is completely drunk. Drunk. That's one of the worst positions you can be in. Because now I gotta get her to the car, get her in the car, get her upstairs in the house.

[Rory]

Like, yeah, two lemon drops was. Was fun, flirty, sexy. I like where this day is going.

[Mal]

No bottomless. Third and fourth bottomless is at least four. Bottomless means four. That's four lemon drops for sure. What's a girl ain't never went to a bottom?

[Rory]

Come in, like, what type of cup?

[Mal]

It's the same martini. Yeah. Yeah.

[Rory]

Oh, yeah. Four of those. She on her ass.

[Damaris]

I made the mistake of getting too drunk on a date before. It was the first date before it. It can happen. I never made that mistake again, but it can happen.

[Mal]

But, yeah, your water intake. You got to drink more water.

[Damaris]

Ain't that much water in the world to cover. Six lemon drops. Six bottom shelf lemon drops. If they bottom list, then they bottom shelf. Please know that.

[Mal]

And it's tough.

[Rory]

Sugar, everything.

[Mal]

It's tough because he could see it happening.

[Rory]

Like.

[Mal]

Cause after the second limit drop, as a man, you supposed to be like.

[Damaris]

All right, second some. Second one. Before the appetizer come out, you'll be.

[Mal]

Like, before the appetizer. See?

[Rory]

And you know what starts the fight? If you don't properly look at the waiter in the eye the right way to say, stop offering more lemon drops. And she sees that you're doing that. Well, now I'm drunk. Now I'm embarrassing you. Yeah, no, I just. I think we should slow down. Why should I slow down?

[Mal]

It's an argument. That's when you gotta get on some.

[Rory]

You gotta make eye contact with the waiter from the other side. If you're sitting just like this, face to face on a date, if that waiter's coming from that side, you need to look and give him that. No.

[Mal]

Nah. Oh, no, you ain't gotta look. Get up, act like you going to the bathroom, go to the bartender and say, hey, mock drops. Mock drops. From now on, mock drops. We at table 17. Mock drops.

[Damaris]

Nah, I'm too Grown. I know if the liquor feels.

[Mal]

Nah, when she drunk already, she don't know if that's it. Ain't no liquor in that shit.

[Damaris]

You bugging a real. A real drinker.

[Mal]

Oh, did you.

[Damaris]

We gonna be like, this bitch gave me. Yo, you cheating me out. You cheating my man out his money. You bought me some shit with no liquor.

[Mal]

Now you fighting with the bartender. Now we can never come back here. It's all kind of shit happening.

[Rory]

He's sitting there trying to reflect on the museum and everything he saw.

[Mal]

He airdropping you pictures, you sitting there arguing with the waiter. Like, it's just like, all right, man.

[Damaris]

I never really thought about. Probably because I'm selfish. I know how it is being a girl and taking care of your extra drunk. But I never really thought about, like, how, like, yo, my ex boyfriend used to, like, because I wouldn't drive when I was drinking, he would, like, come pick me up. I'm mad drunk in the seat.

[Mal]

Yeah, you told us that he drove food.

[Damaris]

He got to carry me in the house. He got take my clothes off. He got to take my makeup off. He got to do all that, and.

[Mal]

I just be like, makeup off?

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

I just lay he a better nigga than me. You gonna sleep with all that cake on.

[Damaris]

But see, you could say that. Cause it's not when it's your sheets. Those yo sheets, and you got white sheets.

[Mal]

That's okay.

[Damaris]

Nah, he would take my makeup off of me.

[Mal]

I got oxygen.

[Damaris]

I'm gonna wake up with pimples in the morning. I'm be pissed fist.

[Mal]

So he's supposed to get a wake, a makeup remover wipe, and just keep wiping your face. Yeah, I think y'all crazy.

[Rory]

I continue to prove that I am the clothes. I've done that multiple times.

[Mal]

I'll take your clothes off, put the blanket on you, and cut that light out. And that's as far as it's going. Not about to exfoliate you.

[Rory]

I like a first date at that point. Like, we'll get an Uber together and drop you at your.

[Damaris]

No, I'm talking about relationships. You shouldn't be.

[Mal]

Oh, my girl, like my girlfriend.

[Peach]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Yeah. That's what we talking about.

[Mal]

Yo, wake your. I told you not to wake your stupid ass up and wash your face.

[Damaris]

And that's why you single.

[Mal]

Yeah. No, that ain't why I'm single. I'm single because I want to be. But, yeah, wake your stupid ass up.

[Rory]

I want to be. Why you want to be single? That is what I said.

[Damaris]

That's what the hoes say, if I.

[Rory]

Want to be in relationship, I could be in one.

[Damaris]

Nah, but I say that too. I ain't no hoe. All right, you guys explain getting silent, first of all.

[Rory]

Wait, I didn't mean it like that.

[Damaris]

All y'all could. Nah, all y'all could build a grip. Cuz the whole room getting silenced.

[Rory]

I was actually thinking about what I was about to say. That was weird timing.

[Mal]

The whole room get s fighting, start getting on their phones like, yo, so it's tickets available for the show tomorrow?

[Rory]

There's no tickets available. That's not what I meant at all, I swear to God.

[Damaris]

Like, even Peach got quiet.

[Rory]

I was trying to.

[Mal]

Yeah, Peach kept switching cameras.

[Rory]

The question for you guys to answer to me, what it means I'm single by choice. I could be in a relationship if I wanted to. What that means, because everybody, anybody.

[Mal]

I think that's.

[Rory]

That's usually said by some O's, bro.

[Mal]

I think anybody could be in a relationship if they wanted to be. Unless you.

[Rory]

Yeah, but that's a. Exactly. That's a weird thing to say to somebody. Of course you could find someone that'll want.

[Mal]

No, I was responding because she said, that's why you single. I said, no, that's not why I'm single by choice.

[Rory]

Why are you single by choice is my question.

[Mal]

I would do everything by choice.

[Damaris]

Why you choosing that? Rory, wanna know why you choosing that? For real?

[Mal]

Well, I'm choosing peace. I'm choosing peace. Rory.

[Rory]

I can't argue.

[Mal]

Exactly.

[Rory]

I wanna argue so bad.

[Mal]

I know you can't.

[Rory]

I know.

[Mal]

I fuck you up with them. I'm choosing.

[Rory]

You look so much younger than me. You're. You're so vibrant. You're glowing right now. And I'm dying.

[Mal]

I'm choosing peace. That's why I'm single.

[Rory]

I want to argue so bad and I can't right now.

[Mal]

You can't.

[Damaris]

Have y'all ever gotten so drunk that a girl had to take care of you?

[Rory]

Define take care.

[Mal]

Yeah, I've had like, Drake take care.

[Damaris]

Or like, like walk you in the crib. Like drive. Walk you in the crib. And like, make. Take your boots off as you fall into the bed. Drive. Like, have y'all ever had that?

[Mal]

No. I got to her house. We weren't together. I was lit. I got to her house and was completely ripped one time, like a fucked up. And I woke up and didn't even realize I was at her house. And she was just looking at me when I woke up, like, yo, why would you even go out and get drunk like that?

[Damaris]

You all loose.

[Mal]

Yeah, but I definitely went to her crib.

[Rory]

Just ran through. Right. But she was like nasty hungover. Ran through.

[Mal]

Oh, man, she was special. She had the plate in the microwave. Saran man. Wrapped from when I woke up. You know when that plate in the microwave and you wake up hungover. She was special.

[Rory]

Well, I definitely had it.

[Damaris]

How you it up?

[Mal]

I ain't it up. She just tired of my and got married and had a kid.

[Damaris]

Damn.

[Rory]

Yeah, I think that contradicts the point.

[Mal]

Together. No, but we weren't together. We was like. We was with each other. It wasn't like boyfriend, girlfriend.

[Rory]

So somebody actually stepped up and took her seriously as a woman.

[Mal]

Yeah, yeah. He was a better man.

[Rory]

He was just a lesson. Lesson.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Just a drunken ran through lesson that.

[Mal]

Was a pit stop on the way to her happiness.

[Damaris]

I feel like men look at. I feel like men think that we look at them different.

[Rory]

Indy 500 finish line.

[Damaris]

I feel like men feel like you look at them different when you guys get like up like that. It depends. It depends how often it happens. And it depends like, what your fucked up swag is.

[Rory]

Yeah, we. And we've all. We've all made some mistakes, but it is goofy shit for a man to get sued.

[Mal]

Yeah, I got it.

[Rory]

Like, what's the shit women say? Ick. Like, I could see a ick if a man gets like, too belligerent.

[Mal]

I was so drunk, I woke up, my boots was in my jeans by her bed. In the jeans. You know you twisted when your. You came with my boots and you shake your jeans and they shit fall out. I'm like, oh, my God. I walked in here all kind of fucked up.

[Rory]

Which era was this?

[Mal]

This was like.

[Rory]

Because if they were like super baggy jeans, that's even crazier.

[Mal]

They were boot cut for sure. There was some boot cuts. There was some boot cut. Was. This was like when I was like 26.

[Rory]

Maybe you fit 40 below Tim's in some jeans. That's crazy.

[Mal]

I didn't have on 40 below Timbs. It was regular.

[Rory]

The 40 blows went up to your knees. It was knee highs.

[Mal]

No, it was like calf. It was right. Right by the cat. Those are my bishop calling them bishops. Those are bishops.

[Rory]

Add some 40 belows. I. I want to bring those back.

[Damaris]

Do you.

[Mal]

I still got them. I'm still wearing.

[Rory]

It just doesn't snow enough.

[Mal]

Yeah. It doesn't get cold enough in New York. Well, no, it's cold. It just doesn't snow enough anymore. But, yeah, I still got mine for sure.

[Rory]

Well, for our. Our friend from Baltimore, do we have actual advice?

[Mal]

Yeah, man.

[Rory]

Don't let her get too drunk.

[Mal]

Yeah, just. Just know when to cut her off. It's gonna be an argument either way. She gonna be either drunk, argue, or she gonna be mad that you telling her not to get another drink. So cut your losses short. Cut the drink short, bro. After two lemon drops, that's it.

[Damaris]

If she doesn't know how to drink, just get rid of. Cause having a drinker that doesn't know how to drink, is this a recipe for disaster. Cause she gonna bring a whole lot more trouble to your life if she just accidentally got drunk. Because it's like, oh, my God, bottomless lemon drops. And she wasn't really paying attention. Cause sometimes the date is so good. I've had this happen. This happens at concerts to me a lot. If you're having a good time, sometimes you're not paying attention to how much you're drinking. And next thing you know, you look up and you like, oh, the world's spinning. Cause you having a ball. So obviously she was enjoying your company. She wasn't really paying attention to how much she was drinking. So if this doesn't happen often, then, you know, just make fun of her a bit, and she'll make sure it never happens again. But if this happens, like, again, that's like, her thing. Just get rid of her, bro.

[Rory]

People slip up. But. And again, to your point, if this isn't a reoccurring, don't hold it over her head, though, because you'll want her to have one lemon drop. Yeah.

[Mal]

You want her to have fun much?

[Rory]

That it's fun.

[Mal]

Let her have a good time. But listen, man, you gotta know when you want.

[Rory]

You want her to feel weird around you.

[Mal]

Yeah. Part of being in a good relationship is knowing each other's. You know, being able to identify. Like, all right, now you. That's number two. We know how you get at number three, and we don't want to get to number four. So you got to kind of be able to gauge it and be like, yo, listen, slow down. I still got another spot we need to go to after this. You know, once you tell a girl that, then she like, okay, we going somewhere else after this. You know, they don't want to up the next destination.

[Rory]

And then. Then y'all start really talking, and she's gonna meet people. And now you got a homegirl, and now she drunk, and now it's like, how Y'all really know each other other. It's like, yo, three lemon drops ago, you should have chilled.

[Mal]

And then don't. You don't want her to get to the. To the cry drunk where she just start crying.

[Rory]

Oh, it's definitely gonna happen.

[Mal]

About random. You're like, what happened? She bring up some that happened when she was 12.

[Damaris]

You like, okay, that's weird.

[Mal]

You like what? That's what you said at the table.

[Rory]

That's what Mo did when his tims was in his jeans.

[Mal]

No, I didn't cry. I woke up with a crazy headache, though. I was like, woo. Have you ever.

[Rory]

You're taking the girl. You had a preconceived notion of her, but you took the wrong girl on the right date.

[Mal]

Oh, that happens all the time.

[Rory]

Like when hov was rapping about Basquiat and shit way back then, I was definitely trying to take chicks to art galleries. I didn't understand them. Girls didn't need to go there. No, they wanted to get lemon drops.

[Mal]

They don't appreciate that. You take a girl to a nice restaurant and she'll be like, yo, I don't even know what any of this on the menu is. And that's what you know right there.

[Rory]

Cause I never know either.

[Mal]

But why would you go to a restaurant if you don't know what's on the menu?

[Rory]

Well, I have to Google a lot of things. Like, nice restaurants sometimes aren't even in English.

[Damaris]

There are some. There are some words I've had to. Some. Some dishes I've had to Google to know what the fuck that was. Usually at French restaurants they get.

[Mal]

Yeah, but I. Before I go on a date, like, if I'm going. Taking a girl out, like, I'll vet the spot I want to go to and look at the menu and do all of that way before we even get, like, I wouldn't do that. Once we get there, you look at space, yo, what you feel like? You know what I mean? Type of food you like, what you into, what you feel like.

[Rory]

You.

[Damaris]

Oh, you acting. You saying like, she didn't know what, like beef shank? Like, not something like nothing.

[Mal]

It's like we get there and she.

[Rory]

Like, what's a fillet?

[Mal]

Yeah, she asked for spaghetti and we like spaghetti.

[Damaris]

Please don't mind me.

[Mal]

That.

[Damaris]

That man said that that one time. Please.

[Rory]

I didn't even connect that. I forgot that you told us that.

[Mal]

Yeah, you gotta. Gotta know who you take date according to where you wanna go with.

[Rory]

But sometimes you don't know that. Cause People, when you first meet them, sometimes put their representative on. And some people are better at their representative than others. And you have a preconceived notion, and you think, this chick is cultured and artsy and all that. And that's. Then you end up going to the show, and it's like, we should have just went to Chipotle and fucked.

[Mal]

Yeah, but it's cute when they don't. You get to take a girl to a nice restaurant. She really don't know how to read the menu. And then a waiter come and be like. She'll say something. She's like, I have chicken. She just said chicken. Like, I just want chicken. He's like, all right.

[Rory]

I know she don't just cut up some chicken.

[Mal]

Yeah. She's like, she just want the chicken. Like, just get her the chicken. Like, all right, man. But as a guy on a date, you need to recognize that and identify that and help the girl with order. What do you like? All right, so you should get this. Get this for the sides. You know what I'm saying? Like, help out. Don't laugh at her.

[Damaris]

I know I got a problem. Cause my ego. Oh, it will be.

[Mal]

I'll be crushed if a dude try to help you order.

[Damaris]

If he tried to. Like, if I says, like, if I went to. If I went to see, this wouldn't happen to me because I wouldn't even play myself like that. But I go to say something wrong and then correct you and be like, oh, yeah, that's this. And, like, you know more about, like, the menu and shit than me. It's me, though. It's a me thing.

[Mal]

Okay. All right. As long as you.

[Damaris]

There's nothing wrong with that.

[Mal]

I was about to say, what's wrong with that? If a guy's, like, helping you, like, yo, shorty. Like, nah, this is order. This what this is.

[Damaris]

When it come to food, I can't do that. When it. When we went, like, to the gun range. Yeah. Show me, like, shit that I don't know. But when it comes to, like, food, you not about to know more than me.

[Mal]

But that's so crazy because you can actually cook. So I think you would be, like, you would like a guy that kind.

[Damaris]

Of, like, if he's a chef, But. And it. But I feel like there's also a way to do it. Like, if it's a cuisine that I haven't tried before and you like. Like, you. This is, like, your spot that you go to. But, like, just trying to, like, sun me about a. I Can't see now.

[Mal]

You sound like TJ when plaque boy asks him not to smoke.

[Damaris]

No, that's completely different.

[Rory]

All he asked on it, respectfully, what would you like on his menu?

[Mal]

That's all he said.

[Rory]

And now you, man, like, I ain't like that too.

[Mal]

They don't have chicken here. And you went crazy. Like, what you mean you ain't got chicken?

[Damaris]

No, I wouldn't do that. I just can't. I can't have a man, like, feeling like. Like he, like, like. I don't know. It's. It's an ego. Like I said. I know it's a me.

[Mal]

I love the fact that she's taking.

[Damaris]

Yeah, no, it's totally me.

[Rory]

I've. I'm not intimidated ever by a woman with money or more. More culture than I am. But I will say it does make you feel, to the ego point, a little strange because I've been out with women that are way more well traveled than I am and understand certain things that I don't. And I've definitely sat there a little embarrassed.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Of like, how you fully understand the menu of a place I brought you to, and I'm still sitting here googling under the table and you ordering for us. You know, you speaking in French to the waiter, right? Yeah. My ego has been bruised a bit in that time. I'm not intimidated by it, but it's like, damn, I'm trash.

[Mal]

No, but that's. That's fly. Like, okay, teach me something, shorty.

[Rory]

Oh, for sure. But you just have to get over that.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Bruise like, damn, I am. I need to stop going to Houston and, like, go somewhere else.

[Damaris]

I'm crying. I need to stop because there's women.

[Rory]

That I. I've dated, like, post my 20s, that I spent my entire 20s working corporate jobs, dead end jobs, traveling party jobs, pod jobs. Like, I didn't have the opportunity to one have the finances or time to travel the whole fucking world. And I'm meeting chicks my age that had the opportunity, not gonna say how, had the opportunity to travel the world. They know way more than me. I'm sitting here like, Nicole, I'm. I'm 15 years into this. This work shit. I'm. I'm a. And I'm an adult. I know the world. I could only tell you where to eat in Miami.

[Mal]

That's funny.

[Rory]

I don't know shit. You said. I don't know anything.

[Damaris]

You said escar got like, I don't know shit.

[Mal]

Great restaurants in Miami, though. So you got a good. You got A good batch to finger.

[Damaris]

He's that finger licking.

[Mal]

Well, I hope that's not what you told about in Miami.

[Rory]

I, like, I've been in restaurants, and I'm like, it doesn't come with a side. And they're like, sir, we don't do. That's not how the works. Your entree doesn't come with a. You can order. There's a side area that you could order a bunch.

[Mal]

This is a side of the building.

[Rory]

Like, what the chicken parm come with? Like, yeah, well, it's up to you.

[Mal]

Yeah. If you want it to come with something, order it, but we not going to give it to you.

[Damaris]

I've also had that happen to me in the reverse, though. I've had people think. And this is more recently, and it's because. I swear it's because of this podcast. Because I'm on this podcast. I dress a little bit differently. Like, I dress like y'all. I dress like a boy. Always got a hoodie on, stuff like that. And. And I've had men try to take me on dates, and they try to be super cool and do down to earth shit. And I'm just like, oh, I'm not that girl. Y'all thought I was, like, cool and, like, down to earth for the date. Like, when I'm dating. That's not.

[Rory]

We're not gonna talk about Jadakiss.

[Damaris]

No. Yeah, that's not happening. I'm not. We're not talking about rap. You're not like, you're not taking me.

[Mal]

Dude, we take you out trying to talk about rap.

[Damaris]

Yeah, they be trying to take me out to talk about rap. They be trying to take me out in, like, oh, we could go to this wing spot. Oh, y'all think I'm, like, really that girl? Like, I'm so cool, and I'm not that girl. That's not me.

[Mal]

Baby D gotta eat.

[Damaris]

It's just the things that I'm into are different. But I would assume that you wouldn't know that if you're watching me on a fucking podcast, assuming that you know me. That's just not.

[Mal]

Well, what's his name?

[Damaris]

Baltimore Nigga.

[Mal]

Baltimore Nigga. That's what he wants me to dress him as. Yeah, that's all right, Baltimore Nigga. So. So take your girl out. Keep count of exactly how many lemon drops. Next time you don't want her to get too drunk. Cause then you're end up babysitting and arguing. You don't want to do that. But definitely take her somewhere nice and let her drink, but, you know, keep it to at least a two. Three is the cap. Don't let her get more than three lemon drops next time y'all go out.

[Rory]

Yeah, I'm with you. We done with voicemails?

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

People haven't been leaving them. Y'all need to leave more voicemails. Go to patreon.com neworianmall New Roy Mall and make sure you're signing up for Patreon leaving voicemails. It's tagged to the top of the page. So I need to hear from more of y'all. I need more embarrassing stories.

[Mal]

Well, on Patreon, we did tell them that we do want them to leave voicemails. Their best old school voicemail impressions.

[Damaris]

Yes.

[Mal]

Play. Play music.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Leave a voicemail note.

[Rory]

And best sexy voice of yo.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Can't come to the phone right now.

[Damaris]

Yeah. We honor Usher letter.

[Mal]

Play your favorite song in the back. Let us hear what your old voicemails used to sound like.

[Damaris]

Yeah. We're gonna do a contest, and I don't know what we're gonna give the winner yet. Yet. The top two funniest.

[Mal]

Yeah, we'll think about it.

[Rory]

I'm trying to see if someone can trick us with a voicemail for us to reply, but it's like the trick voicemail of hey. And you're like, oh, what's up? Oh, can't come to the phone right now. I want someone to do that version of a voicemail.

[Mal]

It's going to be hard for us.

[Rory]

To reply to something and they keep talking like, nah, nah.

[Mal]

Because we listened to the whole thing first before we respond.

[Rory]

I was reacting to Baltimore, gentlemen, the entire time. Time.

[Mal]

I thought I was gonna catch you slipping right there. Baltimore. All right, well, let's get out of here. Have a safe weekend. Be safe, be blessed. We'll be back in a couple days.

[Rory]

Yes. Continued prayers to everyone in Los Angeles.

[Mal]

Absolutely. Be safe out there. Please, man.

[Rory]

We will continue to post places that resources are donations. I've been doing everything I I can. It's sitting in New York knowing a bunch of your friends are in weird situations.

[Mal]

So absolutely. Be safe, be blessed. We'll talk to you in a couple days. I'm that he's just g. We only.

[Damaris]

Got 10 more days of tik tok. I'm sorry. I didn't mean to interrupt you. They just announced that we really only have 10 more days of tik tok. I'm about to lose my mind.

[Mal]

All right, well, rest piece of tik tok.

[Rory]

I don't know if that's true.

[Damaris]

No, it is true. It is true. Ten more days of Tik Tok.

[Rory]

There's so many policies. Trump said he was going to do it, never did.

[Damaris]

But that's not Trump doing that, though. That's the Supreme Court trying to put.

[Mal]

A hold on it.

[Damaris]

Yeah, Trump's trying to put a hold on it, but he's not in office yet.

[Rory]

So that Supreme Court is going to do whatever he says eventually.

[Damaris]

But as of right now, if they don't fix it by then, they have to sell by January 19th. Sell. Or it's over. Well, you don't care. Wow.

[Rory]

We were just about LA and our friends being in compromised situations, and she's like, you don't even care about Tick tock. No, I don't.

[Mal]

Rest in peace. Tick tock.

[Damaris]

Yeah, no worry.

[Mal]

And now.