Episode 342 | Cee-Lo Walked, Teddy Swims

Summary

New Rory & MAL: Episode 342 | Cee-Lo Walked, Teddy Swims

Release Date: February 4, 2025

Hosted by Rory Farrell and Jamil "Mal" Clay, "New Rory & MAL" delivers fresh stories, laughter, and spontaneous hot takes that listeners crave. In Episode 342, titled "Cee-Lo Walked, Teddy Swims", the hosts navigate through an array of topics, including new music releases, the tumultuous Grammy Awards, personal anecdotes, and listener interactions. Below is a detailed summary capturing the essence of their lively conversation.

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1. Release Week and New Music

The episode opens with Damaris announcing her latest single in collaboration with Leon Thomas.

Damaris [01:43]: "It's release week... my single comes out for my second album with Leon Thomas... available February 7th."

Rory congratulates her, emphasizing the quality and anticipation surrounding the new track.

Rory [02:02]: "Finally putting this album out. It's a great album, great song, great music on the way... download that. Stream that. Great song, great music."

2. TikTok Promotion and Challenges

The conversation shifts to innovative promotional strategies, with Damaris suggesting TikTok challenges to boost their single's visibility.

Damaris [03:59]: "Let me do the first verse challenge on TikTok for my single with Leon Thomas... Maybe do street team promo in the city."

Rory engages in playful banter, highlighting the collaborative spirit of their promotion efforts.

3. Family Matters and Office Cleanliness

The hosts delve into personal stories about organizing a birthday party, addressing the state of their office, and maintaining professionalism.

Maul [11:03]: "Have you used that bathroom?"

Damaris [11:40]: "Oh, I found so much ash behind that first toilet... people smoke in the bathroom."

This segment underscores the balance between personal life and maintaining a clean, professional environment.

4. Grammy Awards Discussion

A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to dissecting the recent Grammy Awards, covering everything from hosting styles to controversial performances and award outcomes.

a. Red Carpet and Hosts

Trevor Noah's hosting is praised for keeping the show engaging and addressing pertinent social issues.

Damaris [26:07]: "I like Trevor Noah hosting for the most part... he kept guilt tripping everyone in there and ruining their night... love that he kept guilt tripping everyone in there."

b. Controversial Performances and Moments

The hosts discuss notable red carpet moments, including Kanye West's controversial appearance and Babyface's experience.

Rory [38:16]: "This is America. You gonna be all right."

Damaris [40:56]: "Kanye did a lot with art-driven nudity which I can appreciate, but now it's just... that's not tasteful."

c. Award Outcomes and Opinions

Kendrick Lamar's sweeping of major categories and Dochi winning Rap Album of the Year spark discussions about the Grammy voting process and industry biases.

Damaris [50:33]: "I think they do a lot of this, and rightfully so. I think Dochi deserves it."

Rory [52:15]: "How are they voting? What are they looking at?"

The hosts express skepticism about the transparency and criteria of the Grammy voting system, questioning the integrity behind award selections.

5. Listener Call-In: Divorce and Moving

A listener named Eric Crumble from Kansas City calls in seeking advice on whether to relocate due to an ongoing divorce, contemplating moving within the US or overseas.

Listener [109:51]: "I'm 29 years old, from Florida, going through a divorce. I need to decide if I want to move to a different city, place, or out of the country."

Rory and Damaris offer perspectives on finding personal well-being versus addressing familial responsibilities.

Rory [115:24]: "If overseas and Europe is calling you... Do what makes you happy."

Damaris [115:24]: "Don't stay ten toes in town and make yourself more miserable to prove a point."

6. Voicemails and Closing Remarks

The episode wraps up with the hosts interacting with listener voicemails, providing humorous critiques, and encouraging quality submissions.

Rory [120:00]: "This was a poem entitled Merlot for Baby dad... I'm telling you, when I start doing this, you gonna have a long night."

They conclude by celebrating award winners, sharing final thoughts on performances, and maintaining a positive outlook.

Damaris [127:56]: "This is a good poem... I was never crushing grapes."

Rory [128:03]: "Peace. New warrior now."

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Notable Quotes

• Damaris [01:43]: "At least Josh is clapping for me. That is why so many people don't want to share the good things going on in their life."

• Rory [02:02]: "I just didn't know we were doing a commercial at the top of the show for the single."

• Damaris [50:33]: "I think they do a lot of this, and rightfully so. I think Dochi deserves it."

• Rory [52:15]: "How are they voting? What are they looking at?"

• Rory [115:24]: "If overseas and Europe is calling you... Do what makes you happy."

• Damaris [127:56]: "This is a good poem... I was never crushing grapes."

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Conclusions

In Episode 342, Rory and Damaris provide candid and insightful commentary on the music industry, particularly scrutinizing the Grammy Awards' outcomes and processes. Their discussion intertwines professional opinions with personal experiences, creating a relatable and engaging narrative for listeners. The episode highlights themes of authenticity, industry bias, personal growth, and the impact of public perception, all delivered with the hosts' signature humor and unfiltered honesty.

Transcript

[Maul]

No worry, I'm lying.

[Rory]

Fans of the street, real niggas making up girls and trim niggas making our trip? Link up, my nigga, let's link up? I done start buying more Cubans? These links on me leaving bruises I don't fantasize, I make movies, I don't tell lies, I tell Uzis? I get idolized by these rubies? I treat them just like they regulars? These sneaking pics on the cellies? Preying on me on a predator? Preying on me on a predator? Them bands on me, more capital got my dog, just went federal. Give your life for this gang gang shit? Pay a price for this gang gang shit? You sure want to remain nameless? Trying to be Instagram famous? Knowing damn well these streets painless? Gotta take your time, you gang, gang, gang. You don't want to feel my pain? It's going to drive you insane? I cleared up a vintage, man, I'm a menace, I know what I did? I'm a finish this. I got the code, I got the remedy? I'm doing this for infinity? I ain't looking for no sympathy? Put a dollar sign on my enem. You can't come between my embers and you gotta stay off the premises. I was down and out and I remember this? It's gonna hurt my soul just to reminisce? Gotta understand what I represent, you know what I mean? To the gang affairs of the sweet real niggas nicking up.

[Damaris]

It is release week. See, that's. That's why you can't even share good news around your friends, because they'll hate. At least Josh is clapping for me. That is why so many people don't want to share the good things going on in their life around people.

[Rory]

They.

[Damaris]

They claim to be friends because you get stank faces like that. Hey, when I say it's release week, I have a single coming out for my second album with Leon Thomas, who Are youe anyway? Available February 7th. And Demarius just makes a stank face. This is why you have to keep your achievements to yourself.

[Rory]

No, listen, listen. I'm. First of all, congrats, and I'm happy.

[Damaris]

Thank you.

[Rory]

Finally putting this album out. It's a great album, great song, great music on the way. I just didn't know we were doing a commercial at the top of the show for the single.

[Damaris]

No, I reached out. You're gonna get your check for it.

[Rory]

No, no, I went through the proper.

[Damaris]

Channels to do an ad on our show.

[Rory]

I will do Street Team for free. You my Guy, I don't need to be paid. I just didn't know. But now that we're here.

[Damaris]

Rory.

[Rory]

New single, February 7th, featuring Leon Thomas. Who are you? Who are you anyway?

[Damaris]

That's exactly how it sounds.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Who are you? Leon put on a Borat voice for the entire record.

[Rory]

Yeah. Great song.

[Damaris]

Would you do Street Team if I paid to rap like a Yukon truck, but it has to be a female Uber driver driving you around to do street team promo in the city.

[Rory]

A female Uber driver?

[Damaris]

Yeah. That's who's gonna take you around.

[Rory]

You just. Why you putting me through. Why you wanna put me through that?

[Damaris]

And then a male picks you up and you guys go get groceries for everyone in the studio.

[Rory]

That just sound like a bad nightmare, man. That's just a terrible, terrible nightmare. But no. Rory and Leon Thomas this week, February.

[Damaris]

Yes.

[Rory]

Available on dsps. Download that. Stream that. Great song, great music.

[Damaris]

I. I played it for Patreon, which our episode came out yesterday. If you're listening to this on Monday, Patreon seem to like it. And they're. They could be a tough critic. A lot of them are like, boom bap type, underground rap heads. So, yeah, getting them to like certain R B music, I always find is, like, a challenge. And I'm happy when they like that type of stuff.

[Rory]

Yeah, no, it's a great song, man. It's undeniable record. So people. People gonna love it.

[Damaris]

I hit Damaris this morning about Baby.

[Rory]

D. What's up, Baby D? I see you over there, girl, what's up? I see the curls popping.

[Damaris]

You see me curls popping?

[Rory]

Well, reckon rain, diamonds and curls, Diamonds for pearls, diamonds for girls.

[Damaris]

Maybe I shouldn't have just hit Damaris. It's funny that she was rhyming like that. I hit her this morning like, yo, could we do, like, the first verse challenge on TikTok for my single with Leon Thomas? You know, like, we're. You sit there and, like, bop your head. And then someone from TikTok raps, like, instrumental.

[Rory]

Oh, so you only leave the song.

[Damaris]

Yeah, so anyone could hop on it. And I figured Damaris would be the perfect person to start that challenge one, because we already seen what she did to Derek. So, you know, I thought it'd be cool to shoot on the set for her to do that, but now that you. I mean, that was like six Prince entendres in one. You should have recorded that in a little red corner.

[Rory]

I got bars. That's all you had to do was call me, bro.

[Damaris]

All right, so you guys want to go back and forth or your own individual ones.

[Rory]

You want to go kiss the styles on.

[Maul]

We can go kiss the styles.

[Rory]

We can split an eight now.

[Maul]

Yeah, I'll write it, and then you could just recite it. I know I'm not really a writer.

[Rory]

Wait, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. I don't like that, like, she's. I write it. Like, you don't trust my bars or something?

[Maul]

No, I. I didn't know if you trusted them. I didn't know if you wanted to.

[Rory]

Of course I trust my bars. I stand on my bars. Pause.

[Damaris]

Yeah, I trust his bars, too.

[Rory]

But we'll.

[Damaris]

This is like waiting for the Detox album.

[Rory]

My bar. Yeah.

[Damaris]

We got a deadline. I've seen Damaris's pen work quick.

[Rory]

A deadline. A deadline on a Tik Tok video is crazy.

[Damaris]

So I'm not quite sure.

[Rory]

Do me when I wanted to, like, put it out.

[Damaris]

Like, maybe for my fourth album, you could do a verse challenge. If you start right now.

[Rory]

Let's start now for your fourth alb. Gotcha. All right, man. Just send the beat. It's all good.

[Damaris]

Would you do it? Yeah.

[Rory]

Hell, yeah.

[Damaris]

That would be funny.

[Rory]

Yeah, I spit some bars. I got some bars.

[Damaris]

Did you go, like, really in depth? I mean, you know, the concept of.

[Rory]

The song, which substance you want. You want me to, like, really go there, or you want me to, like. You want me to keep them on top of.

[Maul]

You want me to really go there?

[Rory]

Yeah. Like, where you want me to go? Just tell me what the vision is. If you really want me to, like, you know, paint the story about Brenda's baby and all that, I could get into all of that.

[Damaris]

Okay, then let me. No, I don't want you to leave an infant in the trash can. On.

[Rory]

All right.

[Damaris]

Cause it's not that type of problem.

[Rory]

Because we can go that way.

[Damaris]

Like, I get. I think that's a very important issue that should be brought to light, especially in these.

[Rory]

Trying now more than ever, but. Yeah.

[Damaris]

Do you guys want to hear the thing I wrote for, Like, I thought it was just the albums on DSPs that you write, like a little blurb about it, but I guess with singles, you do that now, too.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

So I was wondering if I get some feedback, maybe this gives you guys, like, is this the.

[Rory]

Is this the official.

[Damaris]

Like, this will be in the notes description? Yeah. Like when you Apple Music, Spotify, whatever. When you click the single, it'll have this blurb right here.

[Rory]

Okay.

[Damaris]

Now I'm nervous because I don't think this is going to be met with any type of seriousness.

[Maul]

We got you. Go ahead.

[Damaris]

The sound is certainly a departure from the last album, but it is a continuation of how things tend to differ from our original plans. Who are you anyways? Represents the lack of clarity we have within ourselves and others when we don't ask the questions that we know will have uncomfortable answers. Leon Thomas is by far one of the greatest talents we have in R and B today. It was humbling and an absolute honor to work with him and be a part of his already incredible legacy.

[Rory]

I'm not mad at that.

[Damaris]

Okay. I wasn't sure, like, how you guys would have received the Continue. The sound is certainly a departure, but it is a continuation.

[Rory]

No, I just stupid writing it. You said things tend to. What?

[Damaris]

Things tend to differ from our original plans? Because I thought it'd be different. Was like, that was the concept of a lot of the writing on the first one.

[Rory]

Right.

[Damaris]

And, yeah, this one still has that continuous process at this point in my life.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

But, yeah, writing that, I was like, can we just, like, wait for the album? I don't want to write.

[Rory]

Yeah, it just feels kind of crazy to have to write that.

[Damaris]

So now you see, it's not really. Brenda got a baby vibe. So if you want to pivot on what you're going to write.

[Rory]

All right, maybe Brenda's pregnant, but she didn't have the baby yet.

[Maul]

Maybe Brenda got an abortion.

[Rory]

Yeah, like, who are you anyway? So, like, who are you? I could be talking to the baby in the womb or like, who are you?

[Maul]

So she had the baby. Who are you anyway? She in the hospital looking at her.

[Rory]

Baby, saying, who are you anyway? Baby D. Yeah, you not. A mother's not going to look at their. In their newborn and say, who are you?

[Maul]

Because you got to let the child develop their own identity. Like, who are you anyway? I know they say it's only one gender, but.

[Rory]

No, no, they don't just say, there's only. There's only one gender.

[Maul]

They don't say, I'm sorry, like, who are you anyway?

[Damaris]

Looking at your child and be like, who are. Like, out the gate. Who are.

[Maul]

Who is this person whose man's is.

[Rory]

What are you thinking?

[Damaris]

Well, that was a thought I had.

[Rory]

Who are you gonna become exactly that.

[Damaris]

I didn't go like, well, since I can't figure it out, I'll throw you in the dumpster in the meantime.

[Rory]

Right?

[Damaris]

I think I'm gonna wait this out.

[Rory]

Yeah, I get it.

[Damaris]

Listen, after her birthday week, there were some thoughts, and it wasn't throwing the baby in the trash was throwing my whole motherfucking family in there and locking it on trash.

[Rory]

Yo. You never realize how crazy your family is until you have to like do like family events with them, you know?

[Damaris]

And you don't want to be mean to your mom or anyone else because they are there to actually help.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

But you can't also then be truthful because for the whole week, all the way through from Wednesday to Sunday, all my mom was saying, is there anything I can do to help? Which I appreciate and love that. But the answer back to my blurb of the single is not the answer that you want. It's going to be uncomfortable.

[Rory]

Right.

[Damaris]

You could help by leaving.

[Rory]

Right? Just let us. We got this.

[Damaris]

Don't be here, like go somewhere else, show up when everyone else shows up, eat a hot dog, smile at Amara and then go home.

[Rory]

But that's, you know, that's the gram.

[Damaris]

Of course. No the grands want to mad. It's just like you're adding your family at that point is just added children.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Now you're just standing around and making this worse than it actually needs.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Maul]

So you know, you know what I've learned about that though? Not just not with kids. Obviously I don't have any. But when it comes to your parents and the way that they make, you know, like your parents to say something, you feel like they're being so annoying. They're annoying everyone around you. It's actually no one around you is paying them any attention. They just annoy you.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Maul]

Like they're actually fine chilling. Everybody else likes them. And you just like deep resently fucking hate your parents. And they're annoying as shit.

[Damaris]

Remember, I won't say the city because it would give it away. When you and I went to my friend's mother's house out there, she cooked for us and everything and we left. And he was just the whole time, like so fucking annoying. That entire time. I can't believe she was doing all that. I was like, it was one of the most hospitable houses I've ever been in.

[Maul]

Best, best part of our she was.

[Damaris]

So nice conversation was left me alone. Didn't lack substance. The food was great.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Like, it was a great.

[Rory]

Can't wait to go back. Can't wait to go back. No.

[Maul]

We deadass were like, damn. Like, can we come back? And he's hate her. And we're like, damn.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

But that's. I mean that goes. I think for a lot of people in their families that Irks us. Doesn't irk anyone else because they don't spend constant time with them.

[Rory]

So you had Amara's. Amara's second birthday.

[Damaris]

Yes.

[Rory]

Happy birthday to Amara. Happy birthday to you. Was the day that. Well, happy birthday to Kia. Kia gave birthday. So it's her birthday as well.

[Maul]

This is two years of being a parent. They didn't murder her. She's still here.

[Damaris]

After two years, she's come close to murdering us.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Rory]

How did everything go?

[Damaris]

It was great. The party was really good. I'm glad we actually had the party, because I didn't realize how filthy this office was. Yeah, yeah, we. Did we not schedule the cleaners in the new year. Did that not roll over into 2025?

[Rory]

I usually just clean up whenever I leave. Like, at night. I try to, like, take trash out, vacuum, and things like that.

[Damaris]

I will say after. After having day 26. And they're. Each one of them had a plus five, so you can add all that up. Those bathrooms were in rough shape.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Like, I almost went home after those. First thing I did while Kia was setting everything up, I cleaned the bathrooms, and I almost went home to shower before coming back. Like, I can't. These. Those bathrooms are filthy.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Behind the toilet. Yeah. Y'all are nasty. All y'all. Everyone in here, myself included.

[Maul]

Who's y'all?

[Damaris]

Have you used that bathroom?

[Maul]

First of all, you were the one.

[Damaris]

That put me on. Thank God. You told me the day before, like, hey, have you checked those bathrooms lately?

[Maul]

Yeah, I was like, where are the cleaning people? Like, this is gross. Yeah.

[Rory]

So why you ain't get the bucket in the water, baby? D, this your space, too. You got to keep your space. You got slippers and everywhere. You got air products everywhere.

[Maul]

When I have. When you have an office, you have pictures put up and things like that and comfortable shoes. But I ain't the janitor.

[Rory]

You got to keep your. No, they're not the janitor. We ain't saying to put the cabinets up. We saying, like, you know what I mean?

[Damaris]

We're saying clean the entire place.

[Rory]

If you see something, say something. You know when you're on a platform, see something, say something.

[Maul]

No, you've never done that. Now, when I suggested. When we first got this office, I suggested that one bathroom be for me and yoms at the time and one bathroom be for the men. And y'all fought me on it. No, there's too many men in this office. We have to have them both.

[Damaris]

Unisex gender equality is what we were.

[Maul]

Focusing on, we have to have them both unisex. Because if it would have just been a female only bathroom, I would have cleaned it. I would have had no problem with it. I'm not cleaning up after men coming in there and using that bathroom. That's not happening.

[Rory]

But what is cleaning up after men are using the bathroom?

[Maul]

Like, I mean, I would have cleaned like the toilet. Like, I would have cleaned the bathrooms if it was only me and your Naomi using that bathroom or if it was a woman's only bathroom. It's not. So as far as like, of course I straighten up, but get into it in there on hands and knees.

[Damaris]

Oh, I found so much ash behind that first toilet. Like with mall after hours being there.

[Rory]

You know, ash behind the toilet with.

[Damaris]

One of his fight with one of his vices.

[Rory]

You think I'm smoking behind the toilet?

[Damaris]

I know. I just think ash carries. No, there's. There's vents and like, it just probably blew behind the toilet.

[Rory]

Don't blame that on me, blood. Well, that was my work. That's not my work right there. You should have. You should have saved the ash. I could smell it.

[Damaris]

I just think it's funny. People smoke in the bathroom.

[Rory]

That's not my cush.

[Damaris]

It's a smoke friendly environment. You don't need to smoke in the bathroom like me, just anyone, period.

[Rory]

Oh, well, yeah. I mean, you can smoke anywhere in here if, you know, if. If you're part of the team. Like that.

[Damaris]

Yeah, but the. The party was cool. Mickey Mouse theme.

[Rory]

Mickey Mouse.

[Damaris]

Oh, Toodles. Like, toodles. She loves Mickey Mouse. Clubhouse. Peach came through. We crushed some glizzies. Crushed, crushing beer, yo.

[Rory]

And now y'all both sick and wonder why.

[Damaris]

That was because of the kids running around here sneezing everyone's faces.

[Maul]

Y'all were sharing glizzies.

[Rory]

And that's also y'all eating nasty.

[Maul]

Swapping glizzies is nasty.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Peas.

[Rory]

You look like you put like four of them away. Easy bread, too. Bread. Of course.

[Damaris]

We started on the way eating a.

[Rory]

Glizzy without the bread. It's crazy.

[Damaris]

It's the wrong glitch.

[Rory]

How you just holding it? What are you doing? It's on a plate. You cutting it?

[Damaris]

Nah. Raw glizzy.

[Rory]

Nah. That Y'all bugging out, man. I better not see none of y'all eating no hot dog with no bun, man. That's absolutely crazy.

[Maul]

You never had pork and beans with the. With the hot dog.

[Damaris]

Well, you gotta cut the hot dog up.

[Rory]

Yeah, I ate pork and beans when I had no other choice. What I could eat. That's the last time I ate pork.

[Damaris]

Out of all the poor meals, though, that's like number one, right? Pork and beef, that's Michelin.

[Rory]

Pork and beans is slave slop.

[Maul]

But that's not true.

[Rory]

Pork and beans. Baby D, if a nigga, you go to a nigga crib and he bust a can of pork and beans in the pot and warm that shit up.

[Damaris]

For you, well, she shouldn't be at that house.

[Rory]

But that's what I'm saying.

[Maul]

Pork and beans in the trap house. But I'm saying out of all the.

[Rory]

Poor food, like, pork and beans is number one.

[Maul]

That's the best one. That's the best one from poor foods. Like, if I had to pick one of the poor foods, like, so what's.

[Rory]

The poorest food to you? Like, what's that like? You know, like chitlins.

[Maul]

No, I know rich people who eat chitlins.

[Damaris]

Those can be expensive, even pre made. I would say ramen noodles is up there, right? Yeah, ramen.

[Maul]

But now official ramen. Fake ramen.

[Rory]

Pork and beans is the worst ever.

[Damaris]

Nah, you throw some ketchup and mustard in that together.

[Rory]

I don't care. Don't talk to me about the condiments you putting in that. Pork and beans. Just the basic pork and beans. I don't care how you dress it.

[Damaris]

Up, but you actually like a bartender, like, stir it up.

[Rory]

That is terrible. That is the worst.

[Maul]

That was one of my favorite things to eat when I was a kid. I think even when we had money, my mom still made that as a kid.

[Rory]

You don't know no better. You eating whatever's in the cabinet. Chef Boyard, all that. Terrible, man.

[Maul]

Now, Chef Boy D is awful.

[Rory]

Pork and beans is the same. Pork and beans is just like, you know, that's just like the.

[Damaris]

Now we're on Chef Boyardee.

[Rory]

Chef Boyardee is the worst in the world.

[Maul]

I hope you don't feed that to your child.

[Damaris]

No, I don't, but of course he does.

[Rory]

That's a lie. I caught a lie in real time.

[Damaris]

No, you didn't. You didn't. I would. She wouldn't eat that.

[Rory]

Oh, she's. Tomorrow knows.

[Damaris]

I definitely fucking would. Without question. She get that?

[Rory]

Oh, no, that's. Don't ever eat that one. Don't eat that, bro.

[Damaris]

I mean, it's just a step below hamburger over here, but you actually gotta, like.

[Maul]

That's like two slits. Two or three steps.

[Damaris]

You guys are Irish, but shepherd's pie to me is the best peasant meal that's ever existed.

[Rory]

Shepherd's pie is amazing. I make a crazy shepherd's pie, by the way.

[Damaris]

All right.

[Rory]

We can have a shepherd's pie off if you want.

[Damaris]

I'm down.

[Rory]

We can have it. First of all, this week is packed your mashed potatoes. Your mashed potatoes. Don't with mine. Let's start there. Oh, my mashed potatoes. My mashed potatoes. You might think a went in there and melted marshmallows. My shit be so fluffy.

[Damaris]

We're talking about two dishes that require animal products to make good. And you saying you could beat me.

[Rory]

What does that mean? Just because I don't eat it don't mean I can't make it.

[Damaris]

You can't touch. What do you have to bury it to bury in the backyard?

[Rory]

I don't smoke crack, but I could cook it better than you.

[Damaris]

That. That is true.

[Rory]

This is all I'm saying. I've never talked about here.

[Damaris]

Well, I'm talking about maybe I could be like one of those child prodigies with crack. I've never tried to cook crack, but, like, you know, some people just pick things up. Like autistic. I could be the autistic kid.

[Rory]

Exactly. So I know, I know. I know the ground beef or the ground turkey to sauce ratio. You know what I'm saying?

[Damaris]

Okay.

[Rory]

You gonna go in there and get frozen mixed vegetables to put in it. I'm not doing that.

[Damaris]

I would never. I would never do that.

[Rory]

I'm gonna really split the peas by hand. You understand what I'm saying? You ain't gonna split no peas. You ain't never split no peas in your life.

[Damaris]

I'm so confident in this, I'll even give you a little gem. Cause I know you don't use tomato paste in yours.

[Rory]

We don't really go tomato paste.

[Damaris]

If you don't use tomato paste and your ground beef for shepherd's pie, I don't even want to speak to you.

[Rory]

Nah, see, you don't even know the sauce.

[Damaris]

I don't even want to speak to you.

[Rory]

Don't even know tomato paste. You got the sauce. Tomato makes the sauce. Nah, see, that's what I'm saying. You don't know how to make sauce from scratch. That's your problem now.

[Maul]

But tomato paste is kind of from scratch, baby.

[Rory]

Nah, man, nah.

[Maul]

He's supposed to go, like, get the tomatoes.

[Rory]

Exactly. Baby D, you see where I'm going? You see where I'm going? He trying to bust cans open and all that.

[Damaris]

I'm not doing that you wouldn't use. It's only tomato paste in the ground beef. You don't put tomatoes like actual tomatoes in shepherd's pies.

[Rory]

Well, I know how to make. We're gonna make shepherd's pie, bro. I guarantee you my shepherd's pie.

[Damaris]

Can we do it at your house?

[Rory]

No, we can't do that.

[Damaris]

See, are we doing, man?

[Rory]

See? No, we can do it here. Are you.

[Damaris]

So funny how it took me and peach 45 minutes to cook to figure out how to cook glizzies here. No, but we got George Foreman.

[Rory]

We gotta get the. What's her name? We gotta get the.

[Damaris]

You know, Benner took our. Our actual real toaster air fryer. I got in here for Amar's birthday party and found a new toaster that was old as did not work. We. It really like was baking Thanksgiving dinner to get those glizzies cooked for everybody.

[Rory]

Y'all was ahead struggling to cook some glizzies. Bring the hot. The hot. The hot plate.

[Damaris]

Because I thought we had the air fryer here.

[Rory]

Air fryer. Hot dogs is crazy.

[Damaris]

Actually not too bad if you do it at low heat. It's really not that bad. That's like that many people.

[Rory]

You might as well go to 711 and get the hot dog off the. The little metal thing that's missing.

[Damaris]

This is a kid's birthday party with a Mickey Mouse that was actually a stripper.

[Rory]

Like, don't do that. No, you don't know that young lady. She's probably.

[Damaris]

She wasn't a young lady. She was a very middle aged old white lady. Right. She was great. Did the balloon shit. Everything amazing. They accept tips. It even says it. They say it 10 times in the confirmation text messages. You've paid your deposit.

[Rory]

But our characters are always welcome.

[Damaris]

Characters love tips. So I'm like, you should have replied, mind you, couldn't find my bag where my cash was. So I asked her as she was leaving, yo, do you have a cash app so I could do that? So she puts it in. Send her the money and I get a confirmation that says you paid baby girl $100.

[Rory]

That's her cash app name.

[Damaris]

Baby Girl and spelled in the hood way. I'm not gonna say it so y'all can find her, but think of like the worst AIM screen name. The way a 13 year old girl in the Bronx would spell Baby Girl. Like with X's and threes and. Oh, okay, that's that 70 year old white woman.

[Rory]

Where did you. Where did you find this Mickey Mouse at?

[Damaris]

Is this like, Long Island.

[Rory]

Oh, this sound like a work release program. She has a criminal record.

[Damaris]

She had to be. She definitely had to leave before sundown.

[Rory]

She was rushing out. She was on probation for sure. She in the halfway house. She got the J job.

[Damaris]

And then on top of that, then I got nervous. This is how tough it is to actually be, like, a truthful man. I immediately screenshotted that and showed it to Kia immediately, like, hey, this is her cash app confirmation. I'm not sending strippers money during our daughter's birthday party.

[Rory]

Yeah, you had to make it very clear.

[Damaris]

Click the image, thinking, like, maybe it's her daughter's and she don't have cash app. She's like, no, I was. That was her.

[Rory]

Yeah, yeah.

[Damaris]

And it was like, one of those abvies that she knew how to angle to make herself. It was her.

[Rory]

Wait, she was. Was she in costume in the. In the picture? Or was she, like. Was it Mickey?

[Damaris]

No, it wasn't Mickey.

[Rory]

Okay. It was her. Okay. All right. I mean, I respect it. Shout out the baby girl. Thank you for coming for baby.

[Damaris]

And the way she was folding up those balloons. Host the baby girl. I'm looking at her in a whole different light.

[Rory]

She's a mule. She used to put it in her, you know, in the balloon.

[Damaris]

That's what I was thinking, yo. Exactly what I thought.

[Rory]

She's good with balloons.

[Damaris]

I was like, she has put so much heroin in balloons.

[Rory]

Yeah, that's lady heroin right there.

[Maul]

You help.

[Damaris]

Can I get it? She changing her life, man. Yeah, yeah. I respect it.

[Rory]

Listen, we don't judge, man. We know. We party and we don't judge. That's what we do.

[Maul]

We.

[Rory]

Exactly.

[Damaris]

But Amara was petrified of Mickey in the beginning, and then most kids usually warmed up to the point that she threw a tantrum when baby girl left.

[Rory]

Oh, okay. When baby girl left. And when Mickey left, did she leave as Mickey?

[Damaris]

Like, no, no, no.

[Rory]

Because watching Mickey get in the elevator can be traumatizing for a kid. Like, let baby girl go in the bathroom, change, hide the costume.

[Damaris]

It was worse because, you know, our studio is set up. We have these doors that go into this part. Yeah, the party was on that side. Amara chased her all the way through the wooden doors. Like, I had to be Mickey's security.

[Rory]

Oh, okay.

[Damaris]

You would have thought she was the Beatles. Like, all the kids just kept running. And I was like, yo, chill, chill.

[Rory]

Chill, chill, chill, chill. Back up, yo.

[Damaris]

She'll take photos.

[Rory]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Mickey signing autographs right now. Yeah, yeah, I get it. Yeah. Watch a kid watching Mickey get in the elevator and the doors close. That has to be traumatizing. Like, if I saw Mickey leave as a kid, it's like, yo, where you going? Mickey got in the elevator and dipped.

[Damaris]

Yeah, but it was. It was a fun time.

[Rory]

Yeah. Well, that's good.

[Damaris]

It was just me and Peach dadding it up in the back.

[Rory]

Oh, good, man.

[Damaris]

Good.

[Rory]

I was gonna try to pull up, but unfortunately I had a funeral to go to over the weekend. A very close friend of mine, one of my best friends, lost his brother, who was like a brother to me, so rest in peace to Lance. Prayers and condolences to the Yates family. Prayers to my brother, my brother, Chad C. Yates. I love you, man. And, you know we gonna get through this together. So that's what I had to do this weekend, unfortunately. Had to say goodbye to a good.

[Damaris]

Friend, condolences to you and to his family.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

And everyone that was there definitely understand this. I mean, this. You didn't miss much.

[Rory]

No, I mean, I missed. I miss baby girl, that's all.

[Damaris]

This time, I did not use a playlist that I got from Carl that ended up having R. Kelly on it on Amara's first birthday.

[Rory]

Okay.

[Damaris]

Carl had this playlist that I'd used on New Year's Eve. It was like R and B rap cut. It was like a safe. Everyone would like. I never made it to the 60th song. Yeah, he has a whole R. Kelly set at the end of it that I didn't get to. And then everyone is looking at me like, yo, you playing R. Kelly at your daughter's first birthday? And I was like, crazy. This Pandora, crazy. So, yes, finally I got the music down right. I'm getting. Getting good with this birthday thing.

[Rory]

Yeah, you getting the hang of. It's your second one. But, you know, by next year to be, it'll be time for the real. The real shebang.

[Maul]

Are you guys going to do one every year?

[Damaris]

A birthday for my child.

[Maul]

A birthday party.

[Damaris]

Oh, I mean, I don't know. It depends what she wants when she gets older. Friends and. And she'll want to do parties.

[Maul]

That's what I'm saying. Like, so eventually, once she hits, like, seven, she's gonna want to start doing parties because she'll have friends. So I'm like, up until 7, y'all gonna do it, because then y'all be doing it every single year for the.

[Rory]

Rest of her life until she gets her own friends that doesn't want one. Like, until she gets, like, high school and she's like, yeah, party.

[Damaris]

I'm trying to remember, like, when I stopped doing, like, those family birthday parties.

[Rory]

Culturally, it's a difference between us and y'all. Like, y'all party, y'all celebrate. Six months, 12 and a half months, 17 months. We don't do that. You gonna start your birth. I don't remember a party I had when I was. My mother shows me pictures. I'm like, I don't remember that shit.

[Damaris]

Well, a lot of the younger ones were just. They're adult parties. You're just celebrating the kid.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Like. And, I mean, this was, for some degree, that, like, there was alcohol.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

In music, but there was a ball pit.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Good balance.

[Rory]

Yeah. You need a good ball pit.

[Damaris]

Oh, yeah.

[Rory]

Well, this weekend was eventful. One of the biggest events of the weekend, obviously, were the. I don't know which Grammy Awards. I was going to say something annual, but we don't even know which was the 67th annual. I don't know.

[Maul]

I think it was 65th. 65th or 66?

[Rory]

65Th, 67 sounds about right there, right?

[Damaris]

What year do they start? Do we have footage of, like, the first Grammys?

[Maul]

Were there cameras 60 years ago?

[Rory]

Damaris, we're not doing that.

[Damaris]

Remember when Maul said he was alive, when microwaves were invented?

[Rory]

No, I was. Did I say invented or. That's it.

[Damaris]

Yes, you did. You said when they hit.

[Rory]

Oh, did I say I remember when microwaves weren't a thing? Like people.

[Damaris]

No, you clean. You cleaned it up. But you did say, like, you were there when they rolled out the first wave.

[Rory]

I did not say that. I've never said the first wave. I've never said the first wave in my life. I've never said that.

[Damaris]

May 4th, my birthday, 1959.

[Rory]

First Grammy. So this will be the 66th, right? This was the 66th Grammys. So the 66th annual Grammy Awards were. Was. Was last night.

[Damaris]

I mean, they. For the first one, they did pop this off pretty well. Frank sinatra, Sammy Davis Jr. Dean Martin.

[Rory]

Oh, the guys. Yeah.

[Damaris]

Pac.

[Rory]

Pac was there.

[Damaris]

Yeah. The original pussy posse.

[Rory]

So the Grammys was just originally a party for the Rat Pack. Yeah, it was a Rat Pack party.

[Damaris]

It was like, yo, we made some great music. Let's celebrate ourselves.

[Rory]

And some O's, we all get. Smoke some cigs and get some. Some prostitutes and, you know, drink some whiskey and have a good night.

[Maul]

Who came up with the Academy? And they ruined the Porty.

[Rory]

The Rat Pack, Sammy, Dean, Old Blue Eyes, you know, the gang. That's all.

[Damaris]

And what's funny is they weren't even being serious. They're like, yo, we the Academy.

[Rory]

Yeah, yeah, we the Academy.

[Damaris]

It was a joke. If someone ran with it, they had.

[Rory]

To clean up the Rat Pack for branding purposes, you know, really didn't hit the SEOs like, they really wanted them to, so they called it the Grammys.

[Damaris]

The Gramophone Phone Awards was the original name. Yeah, that's actually really cool.

[Maul]

Oh, that's what the Grammy is. Shaped like a gramophone. I didn't never even.

[Damaris]

Oh, I got that part at least.

[Maul]

I never even connected that.

[Damaris]

What'd you think it was?

[Rory]

I just did the whole. My bad. I'm sorry.

[Damaris]

See, we're not even. We're starting too early.

[Rory]

What I did.

[Damaris]

We're starting way too early.

[Rory]

Last night, the 66th annual Grammys aired. Yes. There were some surprises. There were some not so much of a surprise. And where do we start? Where do you want to begin?

[Damaris]

I like Trevor Noah hosting for the most part. He's good.

[Rory]

He's a good job.

[Damaris]

Yeah, he definitely makes the show move. I love that he just kept guilting all of the rich people in front of him that were drunk. Like, hey, the QR code is right there. I know how much money you have. Yeah, like, come on, look outside. We have not even built a house yet. Yeah, let's do it. So I love. I love that he kept guilt tripping everyone in there and ruining their night. Like, hey, I know you guys are here to celebrate the music you put together, but you're rich and some people don't have homes. I don't really give a fuck about your single. Love all that. So I think Trevor Noah did a good job. Do we start with the red carpet out the gate? Maybe I'm not artsy enough, man. Maybe the older I've gotten. Just wearing a house on your head isn't really my go to. I mean, was he trying to suggest that his house has become a broken home since August Alsina entered?

[Maul]

Boy.

[Damaris]

Yeah, I was off the cuff, man. Damn.

[Rory]

But did Jaden. Did he. Did he speak about it? Obviously Interviewed him. Did he speak about the significance of the house? On his head is the name of his new album.

[Damaris]

House on My Head.

[Rory]

Head of the household now. Head of the household.

[Damaris]

What if he was one of. He was promoting August Alsina's album. I mean, head of the household.

[Rory]

Oh, no, there's an album. There's a collab we're waiting for right there. Did he give any insight into this? Any inspiration behind it? Any. You know, what was the, the artistic reasoning behind it. I heard what Andrew Tate's reasoning behind it. No, I heard it. I'm not gonna say what Andrew Tate said, but I heard. I loved it. I loved what he said. But did Jaden Smith give an official interview saying what he felt like the reason of this whole, you know, this.

[Damaris]

Look was I did not see anything. But admittedly, I was not, like, looking for the Jaden Smith interview. I do like his music. I think he's talented, but I think that's the point of art. Mo, it's up to your interpretation. If he then describes what it is now we're losing the point of view. It should be how you interpret it. How did you interpret a house being on Jaden Smith's head?

[Rory]

Well, I mean, I just, you know, I'm not on the type of algorithm and frequency that some of these artists are on, but it's interesting to kind of hear, you know, what's the reasoning behind it. If he, I'm sure somebody asked him. We can't be the only ones that are asking this question.

[Damaris]

What if he left the red carpet, was like, fuck, wore this stupid ass house on my head. No one even asked me what it was for.

[Rory]

Nobody asked me what my neck.

[Damaris]

My neck is killing me right now. And no one even asked because they thought I was just that fucking artsy. He was with his sister Willow, who looked incredible on the red carpet. And then here comes fucking dumbass house face into the shot to ruin everything.

[Rory]

Willow has a beautiful campaign for Montclair right now. I see it every time I'm coming, coming down the block. I didn't even know it was Willow at first. Like, I looked at, I was like, wait, that's. That's Willow Smith.

[Maul]

That's a beautiful girl.

[Rory]

Beautiful campaign. Like, the, the coat and everything they have in is incredible.

[Damaris]

I am just messing around. And I, I also am not artsy enough to care about someone wearing a house on their head. I will say Will Smith and his wife have created two extremely talented kids. Oh, yeah, both of them are. Willow's music is incredible.

[Rory]

Yeah, Willow's music is incredible. Jaden's music is incredible.

[Damaris]

They're. They're top. Their top five Nepo babies, for sure.

[Rory]

We spoke about it probably being a bad thing that, you know, Jaden and Willow's parents are who they are because it kind of hinders them in a lot of ways. I feel like if they were just two kids that came out of, you know, came from two other parents that weren't celebrities, I think that More people would be talking about exactly how talented and how dope both of them are. Cause they're extremely, extremely talented.

[Maul]

I agree.

[Rory]

It's just tough when your dad and your mom are who they are. You know what I mean? It's just kind of like, oh, you're supposed. Well, they're supposed to be talented. No, they're not. We know a lot of celebrity kids that got mug shots. All kind of shit. AA programs. All kind of shit going on. So shout out to Jaden and Willow.

[Damaris]

Yeah, no, they would be. They would be this dope, with or without their parents, of course. That was a big push. Like, even, like, someone like Diggy Simmons.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Super talented. From rapping to art to design. Like, that kid would have been who he was, you know, with or without Run's house.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

His older brother, you know.

[Maul]

Oh, I forgot he rapped.

[Rory]

Don't do that.

[Damaris]

That was one of the best.

[Rory]

Don't do that. Don't forget that he rapped.

[Damaris]

Jojo had some. Some bars every now and then. JoJo wasn't terrible, man.

[Rory]

All right?

[Damaris]

He wasn't digging.

[Rory]

No, no, listen, listen. We in February 2025. I'm not letting this go any further into the year. We gonna stop doing that.

[Damaris]

Come on.

[Rory]

You don't say you was.

[Damaris]

You definitely had Team Dog as your mic.

[Rory]

You can't say, yo, somebody has good bars every now and then.

[Damaris]

Don't do that.

[Rory]

Don't not just say he trash. It's okay to say it. Y'all gonna paint me as this hater once again this year because I don't sit up here and say shit like. Like, yo, they bars is dope every now and then. What the is that? If I sat here and say, yo, Rory, you put out a good album every now and then.

[Damaris]

That's what HOV said about Nas on Takeover.

[Rory]

Exactly my point. Exactly, my boy. That's. That's a shot saying, yo, you not.

[Damaris]

That one every 10 year average.

[Rory]

So. So Jojo Simmons is what? Not that good? There you go.

[Damaris]

Okay. You could say I had empathy because I was a big fan of Run's house. And remember, they had the home studio, and him and Team Blackout, like, he got all his friends from Queens to, like, give him validation in terms.

[Rory]

There you go. That's the connection. The Queens thing. My bad. I'm sorry. I knew it was okay.

[Damaris]

They had their shit in, like, I was Team Blackout.

[Rory]

I think you was Team Blackout.

[Damaris]

I was not Team Blackout. They wouldn't have me. You look like I was happily worth a black team you looked like you.

[Rory]

Was the manager for team blackout.

[Damaris]

I was 12. I was 11. JoJo had that whole shit. Sisters was doing the modeling thing. We thought, Jojo, like, all right, he young. Maybe he'll develop. And then Diggy dropped the made you look freestyle and was like, nah, you should manage him.

[Rory]

Yeah, yeah, he's the one.

[Damaris]

Do you remember when Diggy made you look freestyle came out? Yeah, that was.

[Rory]

Damn. You was 12 when running child's first game.

[Damaris]

I was probably 14, 15.

[Rory]

Okay.

[Damaris]

That was, what, 0405. Look up.

[Rory]

Runs house somewhere around there. It was definitely.

[Damaris]

I wasn't old enough to manage Team Blackout, I'll tell you that.

[Rory]

Okay, that.

[Maul]

Oh, there she go. She's the one. I know.

[Damaris]

What?

[Maul]

Y'all wasn't outside.

[Damaris]

That was J. Cole's first beef.

[Rory]

Y'all wasn't outside.

[Maul]

Don't.

[Damaris]

We're not going there.

[Maul]

You went there, though.

[Damaris]

I did like his bar on Breakfast Club. When he said, generation before me had Pac and Biggie, now I just got Diggy. I thought that was pretty funny. I thought Cole kind of ate with that one, yo.

[Maul]

Now I just got diggy. It's funny.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

05. I was 15.

[Rory]

Okay? So, yeah. Damn. 20 years ago.

[Maul]

That's. Please, I'm about to throw up. Please.

[Damaris]

Sheesh. That shit is crazy.

[Rory]

Damn. 20 years.

[Damaris]

How do we even get. Oh, Nepo babies. All right, cool. Back to the Grammys.

[Rory]

Back to the red carpet.

[Damaris]

I would have felt the way, as Will Smith, that my son had a whole house on top of his head and didn't plug my song with Big Sean. When you had the house on your head.

[Rory]

I would have felt the way about my son wearing a house on his head, too, until I saw a woman completely naked. And then I would have felt like I did a great job as a dad, as a parent.

[Damaris]

Cause my children are covering up whoever.

[Rory]

Whoever her father is. Trust me, he's having a fucking. He's blowing a gasket right now. His daughter's naked on the red carpet at the Grammys. I mean, God damn, you failed as a father.

[Damaris]

Well, I agree I'm not as conservative as far as the naked body goes, but at this point, it's starting to look like a weird kink cuck shit that I just want to be left out of. Like, I don't think shaming naked bodies for art purposes should be a thing at all. This, at this point, feels like they get off on it. And I don't want to be a part of your sex club, Kanye west and your Wife.

[Rory]

Yeah, I just. It's just at this point, what are we doing? You know, on one hand, you know, we can go back and watch an episode with him and his former wife where he was mad at the way she was dressing. And we've never seen her on the red carpet looking like that. And here we are years later with his new wife and we haven't seen her dressed at all ever in life.

[Maul]

I've never seen her with a piece of clothes on.

[Rory]

Know what clothing?

[Damaris]

Christians fall. They fall to the Lord. We all get back up.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

But even though he was just screaming and shaming his ex wife about showing a nipple.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Now it's.

[Rory]

This is what this.

[Damaris]

After Jesus is king, let's just do this.

[Rory]

Yeah. This is not. This is not. I don't care about how you try to spin it. It's art. It's this. That. This is. This is classless. This is low class. This is not fly. This is not cool. This is not.

[Damaris]

This is not artistic.

[Rory]

This is not with whatever dress that was. This is very uncomfortable. You know, it's uncomfortable to look at. It's uncomfortable if you're there in the room. If you're there in the vicinity, it's like, what are we doing? This is the Grammys. We're supposed to be, you know, showcasing, you know, our talent as far as artists and things like that and celebrating each other, celebrating our peers. We don't need to see anybody's wife completely naked.

[Damaris]

And even though I am the conspiracy guy, I do think a lot of that, like humiliation ritual YouTube world is. Is completely off the rocker. Like, I'm not a flat earth conspiracy theorist. I do draw the line somewhere. And a lot of the ritual stuff, I draw a line as well. You guys are just giving them all the ammo at this point. They might be right.

[Rory]

Yeah, no, they're right.

[Damaris]

This is like. But this is at this point, Kanye did used to do a lot of. With art as the drive driving factor for a lot of nudity and a lot of stuff which I can appreciate and respect. This is just. You just butt ass naked taking a photo.

[Rory]

The only thing crazy, it's like when.

[Damaris]

They take the IG chicks and put them in a parking garage naked. This is not even tasteful.

[Maul]

They didn't let them in, right? They didn't let them in.

[Rory]

Well, they weren't invited. Kanye wasn't invited to the Grammys. I think we know why. But obviously he took the still as an opportunity. Cause he knew that the picture would go viral. He recreated the Album cover. I think this was the album artwork at one point. Right. His album. I think she was wearing the same.

[Damaris]

Thing in the Vultures. Well, similar. She actually had more clothes on in the Vultures covers.

[Rory]

So I think he used this as a moment to kind of get that photo op off. He knew, obviously it would be the talk of the night, which it was. Everybody was talking about that. But again, I don't like things like this because we know what happens if and when they divorce and separate. Then we get Bianca somewhere sitting down with Katie Couric or fucking Barbara Walters, saying that she was drugged and she was in a trance. We've never seen this young. We've never seen her smiling. She doesn't look happy. She just looks like she's there as a fucking bro.

[Damaris]

That's the aesthetic, though. So you don't understand all that.

[Rory]

Yeah, but the aesthetic. Keep the aesthetic to yourself. When the relationship is over. Like, don't sit down on the couch fully clothed with a mock neck on and then say, oh, you know, no, show the titties now.

[Damaris]

Definitely gonna have a Bob. Really show.

[Rory]

Yeah, no, no. Show the titties now. Don't cover the titties with Barbara Walters. Show the titties. Because you did it when it was. The Bully album was coming out. You did it then. You did it then when the sneakers was ready to drop.

[Damaris]

See, you mo. See, that's why you're not a real Kanye west fan. This shit just goes, I am a Kanye West.

[Rory]

I'm not a Kanye West.

[Damaris]

Stan, that's supposed to come out in June. He's showing that the results of bullying, like, he's bullying his wife. And, like, this is how far you can take it. You don't understand art and the concept of it.

[Rory]

I don't. I don't understand somebody bullying that way.

[Damaris]

Anything Kanye does is for the deepest reason ever. He's not sometimes just a bipolar, schizophrenic instant human being.

[Rory]

Every now and then.

[Damaris]

Every. Every now and then, everything he does has a purpose. And if you don't understand that, you don't understand hip hop. You don't understand art. You don't understand Elon Musk, Walt Disney. What other other names? Enron. You don't understand that.

[Maul]

Yo, are y'all cool?

[Rory]

My bad, Pete. You can just blur that out. I'm sorry.

[Damaris]

No, just leave it. You didn't say anything bad.

[Rory]

No, I did. Yeah.

[Damaris]

Kanye west has been on Alex Jones saying, yo, I like Hitler.

[Rory]

Yeah, absolutely. Whoa. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I just don't know I thought the.

[Damaris]

Hennessy with Amber Rose was crazy.

[Rory]

Yeah, no, this is. It just wasn't. It was just. It wasn't tasteful. It wasn't fly. And, you know, Kanye is somebody that I deem to have a little more class and a little more taste than this. But, you know, having your wife out there just completely naked like that is. I, I, I, again, I'm not. I'm not in that circle. I'm not on that frequency. I don't understand the art behind it. I don't get it. Maybe there's some deep tie in some way that Kanye could connect. I don't know. But just looking at it in. In the crib, I'm uncomfortable. I'm like, you know, secondhand embarrassment almost. It's like that feeling when you see somebody's wife. You like, yo, come on. I don't even want to look over there and say, what's up to Kanye at this point. Like, your wife is naked, bro, lip hanging out. Yeah, that's just not. It's not fly. It's nothing fly about that. That.

[Damaris]

I didn't even think about that angle.

[Rory]

What?

[Damaris]

Like, you just on the red carpet, like, let me go say what's up to my mans. Like, I'm not. You can't say what is out.

[Rory]

I'm not going over right here.

[Maul]

Like, I'm not going over here.

[Rory]

Yeah. Like, no.

[Damaris]

Like, I give you a salute from a distance, like, to start the convo. Like, no, I'm. Yo, I text you.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

And I. I defend Kanye probably more than I. I should. I do, you know, for my age. Grew up on him, have a deeper connection with that entire thing. This was. Come on, man. What the Are we doing? There's other ways. I love that he put his commercial there. There's other ways to garner attention, in my opinion. But, hey, whatever. If you and your wife want to do some cuck shit, y'all get off on that. Just leave us out of it. That's really all. I think that that was the second most disrespectful thing that happened on that red carpet, because interrupting Babyface speaking for.

[Maul]

Chapel Roan, y'all wasn't feeling that.

[Rory]

Y'all wasn't jacking that.

[Damaris]

Another reason to give all these.

[Rory]

Y'all don't understand the behind it Chapel Rome before we. You know, Babyface doesn't have any. You know, he's not trending. He's not viral right now. You know what I mean? Like, this is Baby Face.

[Maul]

It was, first of all, as a. The level of just being shitty at being a journalist. That's number one. Number two, it was just rude, period. Even if you. Even somebody who's never done that job before would know better than to do that. Number three, you're not there with Teen Vogue. You're there with fucking the Associated Press.

[Damaris]

Like, who doesn't apologize for shit and has been apologizing for the last 24 hours non stop.

[Rory]

Yeah. Because they've seen the backlash online as they. This is. Excuse me, Kenneth Babyface Edmond.

[Maul]

Hello.

[Rory]

This is, you know, songwriter extraordinaire, producer extraordinaire, legendary artist. Legendary, you know, in every sense of the word. This is an icon. This is somebody who can very well have their own tribute at the grammys.

[Maul]

Top line.

[Damaris]

100%, you are at an absolute show that. That this icon would be honored at.

[Rory]

Has. Has written. I don't know how many songs he's written that have received Grammys like this, but this is like Grammy royalty that you're talking to and. Because, you know, Chapel Roan. Is that Chapel? Is that how you say it? Chapel Roan.

[Damaris]

Whatever the.

[Rory]

Because, you know, she's, you know, and she's talented. We're not gonna. I don't want to make it seem like she's like, she's talented. She's. She's a very talented artist.

[Damaris]

She's brave.

[Rory]

I mean, that's the word they like to throw in there.

[Damaris]

Brave after a performance.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Blown away. But do you got us?

[Rory]

I said, wait, hold up. She ain't got the complexion for the pony.

[Damaris]

Got us more things.

[Rory]

Yeah. Do you got us labels? We got you. But do you got us?

[Damaris]

We'll get there.

[Rory]

You're a white lady. Of course they got you. This is America. You gonna be all right.

[Maul]

Well, late, not okay. We can talk about that later.

[Rory]

I'm like. Or do you got us? Like, do you think that you're gonna have any problem getting health care in this country?

[Damaris]

I mean, I think she brought up some. Some great points there.

[Rory]

I get it. I understand where she was going. But it's like.

[Damaris]

I mean, I wasn't mad at the rant happening there. It just. I don't know.

[Rory]

I get the messaging. I get the messaging.

[Damaris]

It's one of those social justice warrior things where, like, why are you telling me this?

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

The man that can do that is sitting in the front row. Like, have that convo with him.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

But either way, those two women. Well, one of them at least tried to talk to Babyface, which is a crazy sentence in itself. Try the other one. She'll never work again. And this is kind of. Everyone's giving Elliott shit when he was up here. This does go into his point, though, and I'm not saying he said this about Kai, but this is why you can't have. I'm just happy to be here. I always just wanted to be on camera at the Grammys type people doing these interviews. This woman is talking to babies. I don't care if you are not well versed in everyone you talk to. That's the gig. The gig is to be able to move a conversation with anyone that comes in front of you on the red carpet. That's your job. Your job is not just, I'm happy to be here on camera, Mom. I'm doing the Grammy shit. You have a job to do. Sometimes the job is not what you want to do. So if you don't know Babyface, whatever. I don't care where she's from, how she grew up, maybe she never heard a Babyface song in her fucking life. But her job here is to talk to everyone that is on that red carpet, especially the icons. So at least, at minimum, show some fucking respect.

[Rory]

I mean, it's just simple things.

[Damaris]

Screaming in the middle of that shit, you looking elsewhere, she looked high. She looked like she's on a fucking edible. This is what Elliott was talking about. Some I'm happy to be here shit. A real journalist gets to talk to Babyface and then talks to chaperone. That is who we really need to have in these positions. Somebody that can talk to both and get a real conversation out of both, even if they don't have the tools or history of their entire career.

[Maul]

So. So the only bail, and this is not bail, but what I will say is, I think the reason what she did was completely unprofessional. She's shitty at her job. She needs to never work again. Right? But the reason, you know, when it's red carpets, she has to catch Chapel while Chapel's running by. But you should have just. You take that.

[Damaris]

L. That's your producer's role. Your role right now is to talk to this person. You have an entire team around you that is doing that shit.

[Rory]

Listen, man, this is Babyface we talking about. Like, I get Chapel. Roan is, you know, hot right now, and, you know, she's performing tonight. And when you're on a red carpet, usually you want to talk to somebody that is performing.

[Maul]

There's usually a list of people that they want you to get.

[Rory]

Did Babyface. Was he Babyface a part of The Quincy Jones tribute.

[Damaris]

No, he wasn't. Herbie Hancock, Stevie Wonder, Janelle Monae, and Will Smith. I mean, maybe Babyface had something to do with arranging everything, but I didn't see him.

[Rory]

Well, I understand that, again, the red carpet and the Grammys you do as a AP or whatever other outlet, you do want to get a chance to talk to some of the performers. And obviously, Chava Rohn was performing. She's nominated, she won. So I understand that part. But again, it's just a way of doing those things. You could have had Chaperone come up, introduce her to Babyface. Maybe she never met Babyface. That would have been. You know, it would have just had a little more class than aside from just taking the mic from Babyface and, you know, basically, like, shunning him away and saying, no, we need to get Chaperone on Mike. I just think there was a way you could do. You could have had both of them there together. Maybe, you know, maybe Babyface, you know, wants to work with her or she wants to. She might have wanted to work with Babyface. Who knows? But the bottom line is there's a. There was a. A certain level of disrespect shown to a legend that was absolutely. Absolutely just uncalled for, and something that I'm glad people on the Internet immediately responded to. And, you know, AP put out a apology. I believe the two. The two hosts, they apologize as well.

[Damaris]

Which was really just the one.

[Rory]

What? A one? Yeah, the one. I mean, it looks bad for both of them, but the one. But, yes. You know, it just was all around. Just disrespectful to a legend. But I'm pretty sure Babyface wasn't really.

[Damaris]

Oh, he handled it. Yeah, Go ahead.

[Rory]

Yeah. Like, I'm Babyface, baby.

[Damaris]

I don't think Babyface wanted to talk to them either.

[Rory]

Like, but this is Babyface we talking about. He the coolest dude in the room. He don't. He not tripping. It's like, man, I'm gonna go home and write a song about y'all, and I'll be back here next year winning the Grammy for it. It's all good. Don't trip.

[Damaris]

I have an apology as well. To my people, to the whites. Benson Boone. I wasn't familiar with your game. I apologize. I. I just did not know that you could hit notes like that while doing backflips. I'm. I'm so sorry. Like, why didn't any of my white friends tell me how good this guy is? Am I that out of the loop with pop music. Are you guys familiar with this guy?

[Maul]

Who that human is?

[Damaris]

He smoked his performance. He did a great job. He did a 1080 McTwist off the piano after two women ripped his tuxedo off. Yeah, he went crazy.

[Rory]

Did a great job, sounded good. Good performance. I mean, he's on the Grammys, obviously. He's a star. Yeah.

[Damaris]

But that is why I do like the Grammys sometimes. Cause I feel like we're just so focused on the music that we like. You do miss some pop culture.

[Rory]

Really, really talented people.

[Damaris]

Yeah. That is so big. But. But you don't even see it because you don't shop at Zara that much.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

So I'm like, I'm gonna go through his whole catalog now.

[Rory]

I mean, that's usually what happens. You perform all your numbers, your streams go up, you know. You know how that shit goes. You've been around long enough to know how this thing works. But he did do a great job. I remember watching his performance, and I was even like, damn, he's up there killing that shit.

[Damaris]

My second apology. Well, not an apology. Cause I don't take anything I said. Back with our Bruno and Sexyy Red conversation, But I am not here to fight Baby D. Today. Bruno Mars and Lady Gaga sounded amazing.

[Maul]

Per usual.

[Damaris]

They sounded so good during their performance. Absolutely love that. Teddy Swims sounding great. Like, they just kind of went crazy with performances this year. Dochi went. I mean, I put that in the last five, six years. That's up there.

[Rory]

Teddy swims because CeeLo Green walked. That's all I'm gonna say. I've seen this. I've seen this play before. Yo, I'm a NS Barkley fan, too.

[Maul]

I was waiting for, like, the. The. The.

[Damaris]

It's if. Action. Action. Bronson and Danger Mouse put somebody together. Yeah, I love Teddy Swims.

[Rory]

No, he's. He's incredible. Incredible artist.

[Damaris]

Go ahead. You were saying?

[Maul]

No, I was saying. I was waiting for. After Maul said, teddy swims or whatever, he says, CeeLo Green Walk, or so Teddy Swiss, whatever. But I was waiting for the verb. I was waiting for the verb, but the verb was swim. It took me a second to catch that.

[Rory]

But, yeah, there you go. I got Baby D. I'm telling you, when I start doing this, you gonna have a long night. That's all I'm telling you. I'm getting you out of here.

[Damaris]

I know we're jumping around a lot, and we'll get to the main in a second, but the intro, when they put together Their super band for the LA fires. When they put. Put John Legend on piano, I almost FaceTime maul and. And all John Legend did. They. They capped him. They put him to the curb. All he could yell was like, we agree. Or whatever the. Would he. Whatever they were saying in that.

[Rory]

Don't play with matches.

[Maul]

Yeah. Now is not the time, guys.

[Rory]

That John Legend got up there was like, don't play with matches.

[Damaris]

He was the fire bear.

[Maul]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Make sure the tinder is wet before you leave.

[Rory]

Yo, listen, man, John Legend is obviously talented. We know that, man. But I'm just. It's just like. I'm just tired of looking at this Gap commercial, man. I ain't gonna lie, man. I gotta turn off the Gap commercial.

[Damaris]

Nah, man, they kept him on the piano. He just did the ad libs whenever the call and response was. Yeah, I thought they were gonna let him do the outro. And he was about to croon us all the way into Trevor Noah.

[Rory]

I'm cool, but.

[Damaris]

Oh, man, that was. When they. When they brought up. It was like, cheryl Crow's a super band.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

And then it was like. And John Legend on keys. I was like, all right, man.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Did the firefighters request this again?

[Rory]

They didn't request it the first time. Those was prisoners. They didn't have a choice. They just told y'all, getting to go outside today. You know, as a prisoner, you don't give a. I be going out bet.

[Damaris]

Oh, man. Don't play with matches.

[Rory]

Don't play with matches.

[Damaris]

Well, yes. Let's. Let's get focused. All right. Congratulations. She won Rap Album of the Year. Had an incredible performance. Shout out to DJ Ms. Milan as well. She killed the performance. I loved Dochi's entire set.

[Rory]

Dochi is amazing, man. Dochi is. She's a. She's like a. A mix of a lot of female artists that I like. I really enjoy.

[Damaris]

Yeah, you can definitely see her influences.

[Rory]

Yeah, yeah.

[Damaris]

You can see she does it in her own way.

[Rory]

Yeah, you can see the Lakele 47 influence. You can see the Azalea influence, for sure, but definitely mixed with, you know, a little bit of Nicki in there as well. But. But Dochi style, you know, Tampa, Florida. But congrats to Dochi. She did an amazing job. We talked about her album when it came out. One of your favorite albums of the year.

[Damaris]

Definitely was.

[Rory]

I didn't think she would win the album. I don't think when we went through our predictions, I think we all was like, we don't see them giving it to Dochi she. I think she was one of them, where he was like, I just don't see that. But happy she got it.

[Damaris]

Well, it started once again, like, we needed this topic again on the timeline. It only happens when people are doing great. It started the industry plant conversation again.

[Rory]

Well, let's just be honest. Listen, I don't give a. What happened. Dochi got an award. Her price goes up. Her, you know, everything go. Her streams go up. Everything is. Is up after this. So I'm happy for Dochi, happy for her team. You know, it was beautiful to see her and her mom up there on stage together. One of her old tweets from five years ago went viral again last night where she said, I'm so glad they fired me. It was like her sitting in the room somewhere. They found that post, and it's just a testament of, you know what? When one door closes, it could be a blessing on the other behind the other door. So I'm happy for her in every sense of the word. Really happy for Dochi. But when Cardi came out to present the award, I knew what was getting ready to happen.

[Damaris]

I did, too. Once Cardi came, I said, I'm just, like, setting up. This is the next.

[Rory]

If you don't know all of this is scripted, all of this is great.

[Damaris]

But you don't like that moment.

[Rory]

I'm not mad at it. I'm happy for Dochi having that moment. I'm just saying as soon as Cardi came out to present Best Rap Album, I knew right then and there that Dochi was getting ready to win Best Rap Album. That's all I'm saying.

[Damaris]

We've had this conversation. I think it was last year after the Grammys, where it's less that I'm ever mad at the Grammys. I just can't figure them out because they're not consistent in everything that they do. Like Macklemore beating Kendrick that time that checked out, like, I get it, but then never stayed consistent. We can't predict it because.

[Rory]

Wait, you said that checked out, like.

[Damaris]

Yeah, that the Grammys know? Of course.

[Rory]

Okay, you're saying that you.

[Damaris]

But the Grammys given it to McLemore over Kendrick. Drake was, I think, hope like that. That list was crazy that year that checked out. But then things switch, and it's like, finally they got it right. Because I do agree that Dochi deserves Rap album of the year, but I also see the side.

[Rory]

I agree with that.

[Damaris]

Yes.

[Rory]

Okay.

[Damaris]

With my personal taste.

[Maul]

Yeah.

[Rory]

It's all subjective.

[Damaris]

Completely my opinion. Now you take My opinion away. If I'm Future and Metro Boomin, you're telling me that a mixtape that sold 11,000 copies in the first week just beat me for rap album of the year at the Grammys?

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Who. How do you guys judge this? That's my issue. How the fuck do you guys judge this? Because I personally think Dochi deserves it. Out of every album that's on here, that is my favorite album out of this list of 6. So happy it happened. Shows integrity. Shows that real music can actually win awards. People that even though she does have a machine, that is tde.

[Rory]

Can we pull up the list of the best rap album category?

[Damaris]

Yeah. J. Cole might delete later. Common and Pete Rock, Eminem, Future, Metro, Woman. Now I get it. But if I'm Future in Metro, I'm looking at y'all the same way Weeknd tweeted the Grammys. How do you guys gauge this?

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

The amount of records Future and Metro sold that first week and the impact that they had clearly to. I mean, they. The entire year shifted because of that album, which we'll get to as well with Kendrick. But hip hop completely shifted the day that that album came out. Why would that not be rap album.

[Maul]

Of the year if y'all are going off impact?

[Damaris]

Yes. Like, if you're doing. If you're checking every single box. Yes. Why are. Why is Future, Metro Boom. And we don't trust you. The easiest win out of all of these. But then I'm sitting here the same way. I was like, checks out with Macklemore, but. But did you not hear Good kid, Mad City. I would feel the same way here with Alligator Bites Never Heal. I think it's an incredible album. I think it's new. I think it's original. I think it's something that hip hop desperately fucking needs. So I'm happy they got it right. Happy for the artist. I just don't know why they got it right. Why'd they get it right this time?

[Rory]

Yeah. This is not about why did they.

[Damaris]

Decide to get it right.

[Rory]

This is not about Dochi. This is about just the academy and the 13,000 voters that are part of the academy that vote on these categories. How are they? What are they basing their voting on? Like, what are they. What are they looking for? What are they looking at? Because, again, we don't trust you. I thought the Common and Pete Rock album was incredible as well.

[Damaris]

Great.

[Rory]

I even thought the J. Cole Might Delete later was a good project. Short was seven tracks. Well, he deleted one later. But however, Many that was same with Kanye.

[Damaris]

You see? You see it.

[Rory]

Dochi did put out a good album. I didn't think she would win, but, you know, here we are, so happy for Dochi. But again, back to the Academy. How are they? And we don't. We've talked about it. We really don't care about the Grammys. We've long, many years ago, I stopped caring about the Grammys and who won.

[Damaris]

February 7th, my first single comes out. I'd love your consideration.

[Rory]

Well, yes, you would, And I hope you win, but don't really care about the Grammys. I'm happy for an artist like Dolce because, again, he's a young. A young woman that put out a very good project. And, you know, I'm happy for her and happy for anything that she receives as a blessing of her art. But what is the Grammy? What are they? How are they coming up with these. These winners? How are they voting? What are they voting based on? That's the only thing I look at, and I'm confused about. But, you know, when you see people like Cardi B. Come out to present and other people come out and they present. When JLo came out, I figured Shakira was gonna win. They did the super bowl together. Like, you start to see little things where it's like, okay, I could see the script behind.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Rory]

The show. You can kind of see glimpses of the script like, okay, this is. This is written. This is already.

[Maul]

But that also. That also. Sorry not to cut you off. That also does not. I don't want to have that be. I don't want people to mistake you saying that it's written as. It's like it's rigged because it is written. It is produced. So, yes, the people who are putting on the Grammys know who the winners are when they're picking the presenters, but that doesn't mean that the. The people who are nominated didn't have a fair shot. So, yes, Cardi B Brought Dochi's album out. Obviously, that's very well produced. It doesn't mean that she was always gonna win that. It doesn't mean that she doesn't win the votes. It just means that the producer did a hell of a job picking the presenters for each award. Just wanted to clarify.

[Damaris]

Yeah. And I think. And I don't want to word this as if Future and Metro Boomin's album doesn't get the credibility of the snobs. Like, I actually think it's a really, really solid project. As someone that's not the biggest Future fan. I love that album. The Grammys does do things every other year just to keep their credibility. Yep. For the snobs, like, just to keep the NPR crowd and certain people, those snobby fans at bay to continue to watch. So that's going to happen. And I guess it balances out because sometimes Kendra gets fucked and Macklemore wins, and then other times Future Metro get fucked and then Dochi wins. Because if you are a music snob, that album is fantastic. And it. It fits that crowd rather than future. And Metro doesn't fit the, I don't know, illroots.com crowd, if you will. So I think they do a lot of this, and rightfully so. I think Dochi deserves it. But I think the Grammy board sits there and says we need to give them. Give them one.

[Maul]

I think they do that with the blacks, too. I think they said we got to give the blacks one.

[Rory]

Oh, no.

[Maul]

This is what happened.

[Rory]

Don't get it twisted. These was a DEI wars. We're not gonna do that. Let's just keep it. That's. We're gonna keep it tall.

[Damaris]

In the rap category in the Academy.

[Rory]

In the Academy category.

[Maul]

So when you say these was the DEI Awards, what do you mean by that? Because before you jump off the deep end, I want to make sure you know what you're saying. So.

[Rory]

Well, then didn't. Who was the gentleman that came out? Was he the president of the Academy? Yeah, when he. When he presented. When he Head of the Academy. Yeah, he was head of the Academy when he brought out the weekend.

[Damaris]

Right.

[Rory]

He was like the weekend years ago, expressed his, you know, his feelings. And, you know, behind the Academy and the awards, the show we list, you know, they love to say we listened, you know, we learned. And now we're here to make it right. And please welcome to the stage the Weeknd. It's like.

[Damaris]

You think weekend was dei?

[Rory]

No, I'm just. I'm not one of the biggest artists ever. It's jokes, bro. I'm just saying.

[Maul]

I just wanted to clarify.

[Rory]

This is.

[Damaris]

Yeah, and I'm happy. I thought you were gonna go a different route with White Chappelle, with her entire thing with, like, the gayness.

[Rory]

I mean, you know, and then Gaga came up there and said, you know, trans people are not.

[Damaris]

Since I was in junior high.

[Rory]

Exactly. But now more than it probably it hits a little harder.

[Damaris]

But that's authentic to Gaga that she was ahead of the curve in being someone that fought for trans rights.

[Maul]

They were saying Gaga was trans when I was a Kid, Like. Like, they've been. That's been a. That's been Gaga's thing. But I get what you're saying.

[Damaris]

Gaga was at the Village Underground on Sunday nights in the mid-2000s, saying, Yo, I fuck with trans people.

[Rory]

Like, yeah, Madonna bended all of that.

[Damaris]

Of course, I'm not saying Gaga was the start of that, but she's consistent. Just because the rest of the world caught up to it. I think that shows the authenticity of.

[Rory]

That and what she said. Cool. We get that. We understand. I'm just saying the timing around it, it's just, you know, we understand that what it means now to say that at an award show.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Rory]

With. With, you know, laws that just went into place last week and things like that. Like, we know what that is. We know. We understand the moment. We gotta, you know, remember what the moment is.

[Damaris]

And I mean, I guess to your DEI joke, which I know is just a joke, and this is an awful transition into Beyonce winning for album of the year with Cowboy Carter. Di, not dei. We owed you one. The same way Leo won with that.

[Rory]

Bear we owed y'all. Reparations. 40 acres in a mule. Equality.

[Damaris]

Yeah, but the.

[Rory]

It's the same shit.

[Damaris]

What. What the people that you watch on TV think DEI is. It means that they're not qualified. Beyonce has deserved album of the year, God knows how many years and has been robbed of it before. Leo deserved an award his whole career. And then he did a bear movie that some of us saw, and he finally got his award. Nas, they owed him one. Even though I loved that. That project. You didn't give it to him when it was written. Like, they are owed in that. So I see the outrage with Cowboy Carter, even though I think it's a phenomenal album. You owe Beyonce, so I don't give a fuck. Also, awful comparison. I don't know what's going on with that puff case, but I did see a video. And the fact that he's in jail. I don't care he was owed that. I don't care if he's innocent on this other shit. He did that. I saw that. Sit the fuck down. Some people are just old shit, and sometimes the Grammys realize they have gotten it fucking wrong. Beyonce deserves this, even if it's not on this project. Leo deserved that even if we didn't care for the bear movie.

[Rory]

Yeah, but the reason why I don't like that is because now Beyonce puts out her new album this year. Right. Possibly we could assume that it'd be another amazing project. Because she's Beyonce. Next year, if she's nominated and they don't give it to her, did they get it wrong again?

[Damaris]

They're always going to get it wrong. And I actually have empathy. Even though I'm usually the loud person that fucking hates the award shit, label, whatever. I have empathy with that. You know how hard it is to get this shit right across all genres.

[Rory]

No, it's 13.

[Damaris]

You're going to offend a whole group of people. Like, no matter what.

[Maul]

It's 13.

[Rory]

13,000 voters.

[Maul]

Let's also. We are talking about that Beyonce was old one, but I don't want to talk that down and compare that to the BE movie that Leonardo did. Because Cowboy Carter is a phenomenal album and is better than which I've heard almost every album on this list. None of these albums have had the impact of Cowboy Carter, by the way.

[Damaris]

I wasn't saying in that regard. That's why I said it's a bad comparison. I think it deserves it regardless. But there should have been no question because we have owed this woman for quite some time. Yeah. We fucked her over on projects that were far better than the winner that we gave it to.

[Maul]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

So, I mean. And she gave us one of the greatest memes of. Of the new era. It's been a while since we haven't.

[Maul]

Seen Beyonce be surprised in a very long time.

[Rory]

That's what I'm.

[Damaris]

She was shocked, especially with every, like, the backlash she's gotten from the country community. Her getting snubbed with the CMAs. Like, this was a controversial project, quote unquote, for her. I don't think she thought the academy was going to be like, yeah, that album that offended a bunch of country people that don't really know what they're talking about.

[Rory]

Album Dia like, yeah, here you go.

[Maul]

Like, not even album.

[Damaris]

They're going to now, like, really isolate a large group of people from the academy now. Because I'm sure people, as they've been vocal about it, were upset that Beyonce just entered this genre.

[Maul]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Even though we know different. Those country people, in their mind think they're protecting their genre, not realizing what they're saying.

[Maul]

And she doesn't go. And they say she don't. She doesn't go. And, you know, rub shoulders down in Nashville. Like, y'all aren't racist as shit, but whatever.

[Rory]

White Atlanta child.

[Maul]

But another thing.

[Damaris]

Kayla records there. Come on.

[Maul]

I'm not surprised that she won album of the year, and I don't think that she was surprised she won album of the Year. Country album of the year is what gave her that meme and what caused that surprise. And that's where I think she really was like, whoa, y'all are od. Because that's kind of disrespectful to. Or it can be looked at disrespectful to the CMAs, because they completely snubbed her. And then you went and gave her country album of the Year.

[Rory]

Well, if they gave a country album of the year, you almost have to get album of the year year. No, if Beyonce. If she would have. Okay, so if she wouldn't have won country album of the Year, it would have almost. Didn't make. Wouldn't make no sense to give her album of the year. You can't have album of the year, and then a category in which the album is in not win that category. That makes no. Then we got to really start questioning. All right, how are y'all? How are y'all doing this?

[Damaris]

I feel like that's probably happened before.

[Rory]

Of course it has. But that's what I'm saying. Once she won that, it was like, oh, she. They have to give an album of the year now.

[Damaris]

Like, didn't Jay say that in one of his speeches?

[Rory]

Yeah, that was it two years ago when he won the. I forgot what the name of that award they gave. I think they were supposed to go to Puff that year, I think. But then all of that shit happened last minute. Then they gave it to Jay.

[Damaris]

Well, I mean, either way was. It was good to see the Carters at. At the Grammys for a change.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

And I mean. I mean, talk about two stand groups coming together at once. Taylor Swift giving Beyonce an award. I can't believe I still have WI Fi. Like, I thought the world would actually shut the fuck down at that point.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Maul]

But I know we talk about it every year, and I don't want to be the person to bring it up, but, man, the Taylor Swift. I'm happy for everybody. She. I'm. Y'all ain't tired of it. I know y'all scurv. I know y'all scurvy.

[Rory]

She's a happy person. She's just happy. She's like Mr. Rogers. It's a beautiful day in the neighborhood.

[Maul]

Why you toasting Jay when be. Stop. Stop it.

[Rory]

What you mean?

[Maul]

I know you need some good pr. I know you need some good PR because that Blake Lively and Justin Baldoni shit is going on. But Toast and Jay.

[Rory]

But they were standing right next to each other.

[Maul]

They were not standing right next to each other. She walked over to them.

[Rory]

No, they was right.

[Damaris]

Taylor would never.

[Rory]

They was. Tables was right there. I mean, it's, you know, it's kind of like that's Taylor. She knows. That's Beyonce's husband. You know?

[Damaris]

Okay, she knows.

[Rory]

She knows.

[Maul]

Okay.

[Damaris]

I just. No one holds Taylor's feet to the fire. If there was some podcast, Grammys and mall and I didn't show up together, you guys would have some questions. Why is Ice Spice still not your plus one? I just don't understand.

[Maul]

Oh, my God, Rory, you brought her.

[Damaris]

Everywhere for six months. Now she can't come to the table with you?

[Rory]

Yeah, no, she probably hasn't answered a text in about.

[Damaris]

Thought that was your best friend. And like, you think, you think that's your artist.

[Rory]

You think Ice Spice would be at this super bowl with her this year?

[Damaris]

Of course, I would assume right in the box. I thought it was gonna be if she's not.

[Rory]

If she's not. Can we say that? All right. They not friends no more.

[Maul]

They were never friends.

[Damaris]

What? They said no. And when they released the song, she wrote like a blurb saying she was like the next future artist.

[Rory]

She was the greatest she's ever record in a video.

[Damaris]

Ice Spice and said not only was such a phenomenal, talented musician, she was a really good person. And that's why she wanted to do it, because they were actually friends. So by that standard, I'm sure Ice Spice was just busy. She probably had. She was at the after party at.

[Rory]

Taylor's house at a Pilates class or something.

[Damaris]

On Sunday, though, I. I assume to see Travis's mom. Ice Spice. Taylor Sandwich, like, right there.

[Rory]

I think sandwich. Ice Spice better be in New Orleans this weekend. If she's not, we're not listening to Taylor Swift.

[Damaris]

I heard she's flipping the coin.

[Maul]

You heard that?

[Rory]

Who told you that?

[Damaris]

Nobody. I heard. I heard. I heard it in my heart.

[Rory]

She's flipping the coin. I heard that. Yeah.

[Damaris]

Just quickly mall complete side topic I did on Sunday night, put together a list of, in no particular order, top 10 biggest scams in world history. Would you like to hear them? Number one, the Federal Reserve, definitely out the gate. Number two, Enron. Number three, the Pentagon losing $2.3 trillion the day before. 9 11. Halliburton, Bernie Madoff, the Leon Brothers, Lee Ham, whatever the they were, they scammed us. The Gulf of Tonkin. Wake up now.

[Maul]

Oh, my God.

[Rory]

Remember those people, are they still out here?

[Damaris]

They're beefing with Cameron right now. Cutco Knives.

[Rory]

Okay.

[Damaris]

And then number 10, the most important Playboy Cardi, you hating. I'm hating. I'm impressed. Okay, I'm hating, yes, but I'm impressed that Playboi Carti has been able to get this scam off for the last however many years. I understand that he built a huge cult fan base, put the work in, put the music out, then he disappeared. Then he charged a million dollars to go on stream. Didn't even show up. I don't even care if that was fake. Still scamming us to even go on that guy's stream. He then performs with Weeknd, who has an album out the same fucking weekend, ironically, and has his backtracking playing like he's an opening act at sobs. Do you know at the fucking Grammys, he didn't rap.

[Rory]

But do you not understand why?

[Damaris]

I don't. I. I'm aware that that's AI.

[Rory]

It's not. He didn't write it, he didn't perform it. That's not.

[Damaris]

I get it. But I still feel like every rapper, no matter what, even if somebody writes something for you and AI is the voice, you should be able to perform your version of the AI guy. They end up backtracking. They had to do a wide. I've never even seen camera work like that at the Grammys in my life. I know they were doing the wide shot so you could see all the cool hands that the weekend was doing. The lighting, incredible. They were pushing the lights. Loved it.

[Rory]

But he didn't get.

[Damaris]

No, they did the wide because Playboy Cardi, they just. They plugged in an ipod and hit play.

[Rory]

Yeah, I. I don't think. I don't think Cardi knows the song. No, I'm dead serious. I'm not even trying to be funny. I don't think he knows that song. I don't think he cares to perform it. If they want him to perform it, he's going to perform it just the exact way he performed it at the Grammys. He's going to give some ads here and there and he's going to dance around, let the track play. You know, the whole mystique thing of. Is that even really Playboi Carti on stage? Is it his doppelganger? You know, the whole MF Doom route with the mask, you know, it's that type of shit. It is what it is. But at some point we gotta look into the role that mental health plays in a cult following.

[Damaris]

So because I'm hating and I'm so jealous of Playboi Carti that he's Able to get this shit off and still. Still be in a big three conversation of the young generation. I went to the scariest place you'd ever go on earth. A Reddit. Stan Page. I wanted to see what the Playboi Carti community. I have watched the Drake community, the Kendrick community, the Cole community all ride for their guys no matter what.

[Maul]

You were dedicated.

[Damaris]

I had to see because they. Playboi Carti has been teasing that he's. He's been fucking with his core fan base for quite some time. Like playing in their faces. Even his own fans are starting to get a little pissed off. Like this is it. The Grammys. You played Bachelor. Like.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

I take back everything I've ever said about I spice sexier. Anyone that performed at Rolling Loud with the music in the background that we gave Shit. I apologize. I'm so sorry.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Playboi Carti, one of the biggest artists in hip hop period, whether you like it or not, showed up to the Grammys with the Weeknd, arguably one of the biggest pop stars of our generation, and just hit play on his verse.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

And that was okay. That was fine. You know how much money the Grammys had to pay Weekend and Playboi Cardi to do that?

[Rory]

What was his. The Reddit Stampade saying?

[Damaris]

They're sick of it.

[Rory]

Okay.

[Damaris]

Yeah. I was expecting. Because he has. I'm with you. There's a mental health shit with that. That fan base.

[Rory]

I think with any.

[Damaris]

They're going to attack us regardless.

[Rory]

But I don't care.

[Damaris]

They're starting to get sick of that.

[Rory]

I think that any. Any. Any cult following, you know, when an artist or whoever has a cult following, there's absolutely undeniably a tie in of mental health that plays a part in that.

[Damaris]

With that said, then say something nice about Kendrick Lamar sweeping up in the Grammys.

[Rory]

Say something nice about it. Yeah, I think Drake did a good job last night. Yeah, I think he did an amazing job. He's all the way in Australia.

[Damaris]

He's in Australia and he's doing karaoke.

[Rory]

In Australia and happened to be in LA last night as well. Isn't it? He amazing. He's all over the place. That kid is working man. He's the hardest working man.

[Damaris]

He's working.

[Rory]

He's working, man. He's working.

[Damaris]

Congratulations to Kendrick Lamar sweeping up. What was it? Five Grammys for Not like us.

[Maul]

Congratulations.

[Rory]

Congratulations to Drake.

[Damaris]

I.

[Rory]

What? More? What?

[Maul]

No.

[Damaris]

With that said.

[Rory]

What are we talking about?

[Damaris]

I have never seen a victory lap like this in my entire fucking life. When Kendrick Lamar won record of the year. I've never seen the Grammys. When someone wins, not play the hook. When they get up for record of the year, they always go to the hook. Shazam. Anything. If you. If you want to put music on your IG video, AI will take you right to the hook. They played the middle of his second verse just to get that pedophile shit on. This is the greatest victory lap I've ever seen. He'll be at the Super Bowl. I have no doubt in my mind now that he is. He's going to perform. Not like us. This is the greatest victory lap I've ever bet. He won't do it in my entire life. This is. This is insane. This put the stable. If we didn't need to say it before. This is the biggest win in rap battle history, and it's not even close.

[Maul]

Do you want to. Are there any of these awards he won for record of the year, song of the year, best music video, best rap performance?

[Damaris]

It's a good video. I don't. I don't think it was the best music video. But it was.

[Rory]

You don't.

[Damaris]

I don't.

[Rory]

That's my thing, man. Just say it. You do not. I didn't say you did. I didn't say you did. I said you don't think that that's best video.

[Maul]

Let's pull the category up for best music video.

[Rory]

And you saw what Rocky tweeted.

[Maul]

Who else was in it?

[Damaris]

What Rocky tweet?

[Rory]

I guess next time.

[Damaris]

Oh, well, whatever Rocky was nominated for, the last two videos put out were fucking incredible.

[Rory]

That Taylor Swift video is a way better video than not like Us. I don't give a fuck what none of y'all in here talking about.

[Damaris]

I'd be lying if I said I watched the Taylor Swift Post Malone Fortnite video.

[Maul]

Yeah, that's some.

[Damaris]

No, no.

[Rory]

The Taylor Swift song ASAP Rocky video.

[Damaris]

Oh, I'm sorry. I was looking at Taylor Swift.

[Rory]

No, no, no. The ASAP Rocky video. ASAP Rocky video was the best video of the year.

[Damaris]

I agree with you.

[Rory]

Cut the shit.

[Damaris]

I completely agree with you with this.

[Rory]

Not like us bullshit. I get it. Cut the bullshit.

[Damaris]

It's not bul. It.

[Rory]

It is. Oh, no. The gr. They got it. Right, right?

[Damaris]

They didn't get that.

[Rory]

Oh, I know.

[Damaris]

Yeah, but the other four.

[Rory]

I'm waiting to see y'all move the Go. Shake that like dice. Cool. Shake that like some dice.

[Damaris]

You are correct.

[Rory]

Shake it.

[Damaris]

You are correct. One out of five. I do not agree. He should not have gotten best music video of the Year. If we're going off actual talent in directing asap, should have won the other four. Record of the year, Song of the year, best rap song, best rap performance. Without question.

[Maul]

I'm here to. I'm here to argue with you on song of the Year.

[Rory]

Baby D got an argument.

[Maul]

Yeah, she ain't feeling that.

[Rory]

So that's two awards we don't agree with.

[Maul]

Let me talk.

[Rory]

Yeah, I'm gonna let you talk.

[Maul]

All right, I am.

[Rory]

That's two.

[Maul]

I am happy for Kendrick. And whenever black people win anything, listen, I'm cheering for you. What I will say is I.

[Rory]

That's not true. We're not doing that. Don't do that. Because I do think you've booed at black people winning before when you didn't agree with it. So do that.

[Maul]

I've never booed at black people winning. Unless somebody on Beyonce. I've never booed at black people winning. What I will say is, as far as song of the year and record of the year, which we've talked about, you know the difference between the two. For example, with record of the Year, all of the producers and people who. Any songs that were interpolated or sampled on that song for record of the Year, they also get awards for song of the Year. Only the people with songwriting credit get an award for that because it's more of a songwriter's award. I personally think that Birds of a Feather was a better written song than not like Us.

[Rory]

Nah. Billie Eilish, she ain't give you wap wap wap wap wap she ain't give you that.

[Damaris]

And I feel like that's the only.

[Maul]

Thing written on not like Us that's not shade to Kendrick for Not like Us. Like I said, I agree that it should have won record of the year and best rap Performance and all of those. I do not agree with song of the Year. I think that Billie should have taken that home.

[Damaris]

Well, for sure. You know what? That. I'll cave a little bit because you guys are making sense. I would say 616, meet the grams, Euphoria are all better written songs than Not Like Us. Yes, I. Yes. But again, back to Impactor. I don't know how they judge this. All I know is one of the most impactful popular records period, across genres this year or last year, rather, was Not Like Us.

[Maul]

If we're clean up, if we're doing Impact, then Birds of a Feather still it. It didn't have quite the impact of not like us, but. But damn sure close. Way better written. And if we're going with sales, then Shaboozi. A bar song. Tipsy.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Maul]

What are we doing? But I mean, again, like I just said, that's what I'm glad.

[Damaris]

Because I wanted Jquan to get. Get an award. Like, if you're not getting given a.

[Maul]

Sample, he wouldn't have got it for song of the year. He would have a record of the year.

[Damaris]

Which, by the way, sample, though, was off the. Written, though. It wasn't off the music interpolation. Like he wrote everybody in the bar getting tipsy. So shouldn't he get. Oh, yeah, he should get one if.

[Maul]

Oh, yeah, yeah, he might have. He might have got one for record of the year.

[Damaris]

Give my guys an award. That's great.

[Maul]

But yeah, I, I just. Me personally, I think that. That Birds of a Feather deserve that. But, you know, congrats to Kendrick. I'm not mad at the rest of his.

[Damaris]

We. We knew when we saw these nominations that not like us had entered the chat. We knew what this was going to be. I. I said, go back to whatever episode. I said, we're going to get that Lauryn Hill photo of Kendrick and you can pull it up now. He's sitting right there with all of them. We knew this was gonna happen. And while I agree with you guys on music video and you can definitely make a case for song of the year, it deserves the awards that it got. It dominated 2024.

[Rory]

It.

[Damaris]

I don't really know if there's really an argument.

[Maul]

Yeah. What I will say is in our predictions, we did say that we didn't think he was gonna win song of the year and record of the year. We thought he would win one or the other. So he won both. Yeah, I'm not. When Ma said the DEI Awards, I'm not mad at that when it came to Kendrick winning every single one of those awards, because I don't think he deserved every single one. But congrats to him and I am happy for him.

[Damaris]

All right. And this is. I don't want to get mall started by giving him some credit. You can see the play, though. Taylor Swift did a toast. Beyonce was rapping every word. They started in the middle of the second verse so everyone in the crowd could say a minor at the time.

[Maul]

When he got on the stage. Like right when he got on stage, it was a minor time.

[Damaris]

What did Drake do to y'all? I've never even seen Lucian hit a two step like that. He might have crib Walked.

[Maul]

Do we think we would have gotten a Kendrick performance if he wasn't doing the Super Bowl?

[Damaris]

Yeah, I definitely do too. Yeah. If the super bowl wasn't happening, we would have gotten a full. Full set. But at that point, you can only kind of do not like us because GNX is for the next Grammy cycle. He wouldn't perform those records, I feel like. Yeah, so that would have been odd, but. But either way, how I could think about certain politics in the music industry. This is still like a cleanup in a victory lap. This is a crazy top of the year.

[Maul]

Yeah, agree.

[Damaris]

But I'm happy. Congrats to Kendrick.

[Rory]

Congrats to Drake.

[Damaris]

Congrats to Drake as well. Announced his collab album Party Next Door for Valentine's Day, which I think is a perfect time for that. They put out a teaser on Monday, February 3rd. It sounded a bit red, like I liked it. But I've heard that Party and Drake song before. It's just a teaser, so I'm not gonna harshly judge it. I'm really excited for this project. I just hope it's less like the teaser because I've heard that song, like, a lot. TDE did get a lawsuit over the weekend from two women.

[Rory]

That's a weird case.

[Damaris]

It definitely is. Accusing members of their staff of sexual harassment, sexual assault, amongst other things. This is still very much in its early phases where I don't know if we have much to really debate at this point about what this is. TDE's lawyer came out and said, it's just a shakedown. It has no grounds for anything. I would be a liar to say that there has not been rumors about certain people within that crew.

[Rory]

You can go ahead and say it. We've. We've known about these rumblings for some time now.

[Damaris]

Yes. And out of respect for victims. Yes. People have been quiet about it because we don't respect. No, it's just. Ma. Why I was. Was. Was scared to even cover. This was kind of back to. We were having a conversation about the Stan culture and the weird Cruz. Because the Internet I saw over the.

[Maul]

Weekend, we're not the people to do it.

[Damaris]

Our credibility on both sides has.

[Maul]

Top dog is killed.

[Damaris]

Has. Has been doing weird shit, which I hate. The. The TDE Twitter community is now saying this is all just baseless shit because of Drake and the battle. And then the Drake side saying, look, they have a weird case too. Like, you guys are taking real serious issues and making it about a rap battle. And because.

[Rory]

Did we not hear about this? Because of.

[Damaris]

I value Perception, even if it is untrue. I know how people view this podcast and I don't want to start having a conversation about these allegations towards TDE where people will think it's a spiteful situation when it's quite the opposite. I. Yeah, but I don't.

[Rory]

You speaking to you speaking to something you can't control though. Of course. Even if you don't speak on it.

[Damaris]

Of course. But. But I also. Because this is such a sensitive situation that I take very seriously. I want to watch my words because I know how it will look if we start coming on here saying you guys got weird cases, all this other shit. When I just want any victim to have their actual day in court and justice to happen and my prayers, which sounds, I know open ended to any women that have experienced this in the music industry because it's thousands get their just due and the people that did it to them see their day. Whether if it can't be criminal, whether it is civil somehow there needs to be justice. And I'm not just pointing at TDE in this situation. I hate that they just put Punch's fucking face on the picture of this when Punch isn't even part of the case. Like this is why I hate this entire thing because Punch is the outspoken one on Twitter with TDE stuff and the battle. Punch isn't in this case. So why is his face up there?

[Rory]

Right.

[Damaris]

That's why I just want to leave.

[Rory]

Like you didn't. But you didn't do that. So that doesn't matter. Why are you even. That's not your work.

[Damaris]

Because I deal with people listening to this podcast and create narratives and perceptions and that is something even if we disagree with. It is the reality of the world we are in, the reality of the society. Podcasting is perception. When have you known podcasting for the most part to ever be fucking facts of how people view any podcasters, not just us.

[Rory]

Yeah, but Rory, I think the part you missing is no matter what you do or say, people are going to draw their own narratives. People are going to draw their own conclusions. If. If this case goes to trial or whatever happens with this case and these individuals are found to be guilty with all the evidence and everything that come out, there's still going to be people that's going to somehow try to tie this to Drake, somehow, some way.

[Damaris]

They said this is what I'm trying to say, dad. And all this other weird.

[Rory]

So without you having to say anything, you just have to understand the type of world we're in. Like this has you. You can sit here and say there's a case. Somebody is. They have. They have filed a case, a lawsuit. Right? You want the victims to have their day, have their justice.

[Damaris]

Always want the truth to come out.

[Rory]

Always want the truth to come out. That's all. You don't have to walk on eggshells. I don't want to talk about the. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

[Damaris]

That's just. It's just being self aware in the reality that we are in now where I don't even want to be part of a perception that looks like we are pushing something because of a rap battle when we know this has nothing to do with.

[Rory]

All right, so that's what we speak to. This has nothing to do with rap battle.

[Damaris]

Get that out the way.

[Rory]

This has nothing to do with a rap battle. These are women that are accusing.

[Damaris]

Employees.

[Rory]

Employees of TDE of sexual harassment, sexual misconduct, sexual assault. And they want their day in court. Of course, the lawyers responded, said this is just a shakedown. Yeah, we understand that.

[Maul]

And one of the victims responded on her story. Her name is Linda Luna. Huh?

[Rory]

Say her name.

[Maul]

Linda Luna. She's one of the women involved. And she uploaded a couple of posts the. The news has gotten a hold of them now where she basically was showing screenshots of pictures of her working with the sons of top Dog who she's accusing of the sexual assault. When they said she. They said they were Never employees of TDE. If you're a 1099 contractor, they'll pull that out as though you were never employees of tde or if you never got a check, you were never an employee of tde. But I worked for TDE just because you didn't pay me or whatever they have going on with that. That doesn't matter. She showed screenshots of her working with other TDE employees that weren't involved in the suit. Linda was actually in charge of reasons rollout. She put it up. She posted a screenshot of that for one of his projects. So it's about to get nasty. From what I'm seeing in the news, it's about to get nasty. And I just. I hope any victim really finds justice because this is not okay.

[Rory]

Yes, any victim of sexual assault, sexual abuse, we hope that they harass justice and they get justice because that's something that nobody should ever have to experience or go through. So, yeah, prayers to the victims and hopefully they, you know.

[Maul]

And also there were one of the things that came out in a bunch of the news articles and we all know that people pay for news articles to come out. I'm not accusing TDE of that, but sometimes things happen where rumors get started from people behind the scenes. They said that they asked for $48 million. So she said. So Linda came on and said, my legal team nor I have ever asked for of 48 million. Neither nor any other dollar amount. This is why it's hard for women to come forward. But we will let this play play out in court with the evidence.

[Rory]

Let it play out in court with the evidence. I like that. Yeah, I like that.

[Damaris]

48 million. Such a random number.

[Maul]

That's why. Yeah. When I heard that whenever, like, yes, they're suing for 48 million, I was like, that's a really, like, wow.

[Damaris]

And I mean, I know lawyers and their teams come up with specific numbers that they add up based off, you know, specific charges. And, like, that's valued at this. But, yeah, 48 million. When I saw that, I was like, that's. That's odd. It's a weird thing. But again, prayers to all victims. You know, especially over Grammy weekend when we're highlighting the music industry, because it is very prominent, the same way it is in any other industry that we are in that. That tends to happen, unfortunately. But we can get into a little bit more lighthearted stuff.

[Rory]

Central C claimed that he started the trend of wearing Nike text in America. Central C, you put out a really good album. I was really surprised at how much I enjoyed the album. But let me promise you one thing, my brother. You did not influence anybody in Brooklyn for wearing a Nike tech. Nobody in Harlem, nobody in the Bronx, nobody in Queens, nobody in la. You did not inspire. Well, let me not say you didn't inspire anybody, because maybe this new, younger way, if they did see you wearing it first.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Rory]

But I promise.

[Damaris]

But even then, I don't think the young kids were even cause of Central Cee.

[Rory]

Yeah, No, I can promise you, before you started wearing tech suits, dudes were scamming in Brooklyn with tech suits every day. And that was like, it was the scammer uniform before we even knew who Central Cee was. Central C might have been 9, 10 years old when dudes was scamming in Brooklyn wearing tech suits, going in the banks, busting them checks.

[Damaris]

I posted a photo from 2013 of me in a Nike tech, which I think Central Cee might have been 11 years old at that time.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

And I. I mean, as much as I'm sure he may have been a prominent figure in his seventh grade classroom before he Got to primary school, but I didn't. I was not influenced by him yet.

[Rory]

You see how words could just make a whole thing. Cause if he said he started the trend of wearing Nike techs in the.

[Damaris]

Uk, nobody argues that, but he didn't do that either. You don't speak to that.

[Maul]

I can't do that either.

[Rory]

He can't speak to that. You. You never. You haven't spent enough time in the UK to know that.

[Damaris]

My man Josh Kissy, who you know, amazing photographer, also has consulted with Nike and Adidas since he was 17 years old. Was up with Rocky and them. Like he stapled from the Bronx. As far as fashion, art, everything. He did a whole lesson over the weekend of London and how they have influenced wearing tracksuits and leisure wear as formal wear. That London was always on that shit. Even though I go back to run dmc Cool. I'm not taking away that London has not had an influence on our. It was wearing tapered shit way before we was. Even if you think Kanye and that whole crew ended up really influencing all the kids to do it still came from London. I respect it now. Nike tech. You did not fucking do that in 2013. Like, no way did that ever happen.

[Rory]

No, I mean, he may have inspired a younger wave in the uk. That's what I'm saying. If he. If he says he started the trend in. In the uk, I wouldn't say. It would be hard for me to argue that.

[Damaris]

I think where he may have misspoke is saying that London has.

[Rory]

That's what he misspoke. He said he started the trend in America. That's in America. If it's the United Kingdom, nobody pulls up, think pieces. And nothing about what Citrusy said. It's like, bro, you got it. You know what I'm saying? You probably did. We can't speak to that.

[Damaris]

But I forgot to say no string of abs.

[Rory]

I can promise you that they may have. They may not have been wearing Nike techs in front of Harrods in fucking in London, but in front of fucking Bloomingdale's in Manhattan. Oh, we've been wearing Nike text for at least the last 15 years.

[Damaris]

I think I'm giving him the grace of a younger gentleman that misspoke and was maybe trying to speak to London's influence on fashion and made it sound like he was influencing the kids in America to wear Nike tag.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Which is absolutely insane.

[Rory]

Listen, man, I get it it, man. Good album, good tweet. What was that? A tweet or interview?

[Damaris]

He said it's an interview.

[Rory]

Oh. So, yeah. Good album. Good interview. Viral interview. Viral clip from an interview. I like it.

[Damaris]

I just. But I get it. I've said dumb. Listen, when I was younger, thinking that we. We did this like, bro, we have been doing that so much longer than you.

[Rory]

Even I like it. It. Sometimes you just gotta say shit. Even if it has no merit to it. It just say it. Who gives a say it.

[Damaris]

But then I didn't like the Internet pulling up all his photos as a kid. He had the what the septum ring. What's that called?

[Maul]

Oh, how that's awful.

[Damaris]

He had that with like a bun. And they was like, yo, this. This was the day that Nike tech came out. This was the kid that was influencing all.

[Rory]

That's what I'm saying, you know. Well, it essentially get your off. Say what the you want to say, man.

[Damaris]

Do like the album.

[Rory]

Really good album.

[Damaris]

You didn't start Nike deck.

[Rory]

No, leave it at that.

[Damaris]

That. Anyways, Jello back in the news. Him and Camron going back and forth. Who you having the battle? He sat with our guy Speedy. He said that he raps better than Camron. He said he is the obviously the better basketball player, which I agree with him, even though Cam Cabal not going to argue that. But he's also suggesting he beats him in the rap category as well.

[Rory]

This is your fault. How Damaris all of y'all that sit here. Yo, that song is.

[Damaris]

How did you make that shit?

[Rory]

Chatgpt hot boy should get that shit outta here.

[Maul]

How did you make that shit? Doo wop nigga, bad bitch gang.

[Damaris]

Oh, sounds fire even when you mock it.

[Rory]

It's the same shit. Wobbledee wobbledee drop Drop it like it's the same fucking record. And that nigga's from California.

[Maul]

Why break the wheel if that bitch still turning, you feel me?

[Damaris]

So you don't think he's better than Cam'ron?

[Rory]

Cam will rap. When Cam when Friday. He put his raps out. When Cam putting his next freestyle out.

[Maul]

Cam got one of my, I think verses of all time.

[Damaris]

I think all rappers should feel like they're the best. But sometimes you should be like, no, I'm cool. He said he got in the tank that could kill. Come home with me like Jello, he's sitting on 10 classics.

[Rory]

Hey, Jello, let me tell you something you don't want to do. You don't want to rap with Cameron, bro. This may be your way of. I don't know. You know, it's weird times now. You do this, and then you end up getting a feature from Cameron. Maybe that's your angle here. I don't know. You cannot rap better than Cam.

[Damaris]

I'll go a step further. If Cam grew up in Chino Hills with the opportunity and pops that you had, I think Cam would have been a better basketball player.

[Rory]

That's subjective. I don't know about that. We got to deal with what we know. We know that he don't rap better than Cam. That we know he could hoop. He might. He could hoop. You know what I'm saying? I'm not gonna take nothing away from him there. He could obviously play basketball. But you don't rap better than no Cameron. But again, I understand the optics now. You go on one platform, say you better than this person, and then two weeks later, you niggas is dropping teasers on your Instagrams with a video together. I get it. I know how this thing works.

[Damaris]

Oh, he'll definitely be on Cameron Mace's show. For sure. That's. That's happening. That was set up for it. I get the marketing, but we could have had that moment if you weren't so mean to him. You weren't such a bully.

[Rory]

Did Cam. Did Cam say his song was trash?

[Damaris]

Damaris could have rapped.

[Rory]

Did Cam say the song was trash?

[Damaris]

No, I don't think so.

[Maul]

No. Cam liked it. Cam was on Cam. Treasure and. And Mace around there dancing to it. They like it.

[Rory]

Cam was dancing to that?

[Maul]

Well, he was listening to Treasure, was playing it, and he was like, I like that. That is fire. Ah. Like he shouted it out on the same one where Elliot Wilson didn't stay in our business. That same episode.

[Damaris]

That was a shot at Elliot.

[Rory]

That's crazy.

[Maul]

Elliot don't stand our business, man. We was talking about the red carpet. We ain't bring up him not standing our business with Kai. He ain't staying our business with King.

[Damaris]

He would have looked like a super hater if he.

[Maul]

But you can't. But this the thing. If you gonna hate, commit to the hate.

[Rory]

You can't commit to nothing. You commit to hate, niggas hate to get recognition, to go viral. And then when call, they phone, yo, you can shoot tomorrow. I could pull up. Nigga, what? You did all of that to go sit down and do an interview?

[Damaris]

Well, Elliot wasn't supposed to say something to Kai when Cuz, Kai had a live stream during the grand.

[Rory]

I'm not saying he wasn't. I'm not saying he was. I'm just saying I know why he did now it all makes sense. Like, oh, that's why Elliot didn't know.

[Damaris]

That he was gonna run into Kai at a live stream on the Grammys red carpet. He did not know that.

[Rory]

I didn't say he knew.

[Damaris]

I think Elliott actually had that bitter hate in his heart.

[Rory]

No, he didn't. No, he didn't.

[Damaris]

Yes. I think he felt.

[Rory]

No, he.

[Damaris]

Which is crazy. I think it said. What he said out loud is how much I know.

[Rory]

He didn't have no hate in his heart. He was mad that he wasn't getting that recognition in that spotlight. He wasn't.

[Damaris]

He didn't hate him or he loves journalism that much.

[Rory]

He didn't hate Kai. He didn't hate.

[Damaris]

Yeah, no, I think the system.

[Rory]

He hated the fact that Kai is getting all of the notoriety, all of the attention, all of the headlines. That's what he hated. So come on, man, like. All right, I get it. You mad. The young boy was hot.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Rory]

But now, don't be on the carpet talking about, yo bless King.

[Damaris]

Yo.

[Rory]

What?

[Damaris]

I was kind of shocked. Well, why not? He's an elder statesman. You gotta be nice to the kids.

[Maul]

No, but you should have been.

[Rory]

Yeah. So be nice from the beginning. Be nice from the beginning.

[Maul]

This ain't hate to Elliot. We love Elliot. Elliott's a friend of mine.

[Rory]

Nah, fuck that. It's up with Elliot. Yeah. Now I'm on my. Okay, You Elliot, It. Yeah, I'm on my. Now, Elliot Wilson. Yeah, yeah. It's up. It's up. Yeah, yeah.

[Damaris]

You have that hate in your heart.

[Rory]

Yeah, yeah. I got heartburn hating these out here right now. Yeah. I can't wait to see a few of you.

[Damaris]

What did Elliot do, man?

[Rory]

Elliot. Y. Elliott.

[Maul]

Are we joking?

[Rory]

Who you playing? I play spades, baby. I don't play when I say fuck somebody. Fuck that nigga. Fuck him.

[Damaris]

Damn. All right, well, now I have to ask. What happened? Yeah.

[Maul]

Oh, he was just up here.

[Damaris]

I thought you was just joking.

[Rory]

Nah, man. Cause you playing. You up here acting like you don't like this person. You hate this person. Journalism, this. Ah. And then you at the red carpet. Peace, King. Bless King. Yo da. Now you 5% all of a sudden. What is this?

[Damaris]

Sometimes we misspeak and correct our mistakes.

[Rory]

Nah, I'm joking. I fuck with Elliot.

[Maul]

You were convincing. I was convinced.

[Damaris]

I was a little concerned of, like, how we were gonna cut that out.

[Rory]

No, no. With Elliot.

[Damaris]

I'm joking.

[Maul]

Yeah, but no, but I. And I am partially, like, playing, but. Nah, Elliot, stop saying if you're not gonna Stand on your hate because you hate with all your heart. He be hating with all his heart and then want to walk it back. You can't do that.

[Rory]

That's what do though. Why you acting like this is new baby D?

[Maul]

I don't know. When I hate, I stand on my.

[Damaris]

What you.

[Maul]

I die with the hate.

[Rory]

No, you don't.

[Maul]

Who I hated.

[Rory]

You gave a while. You hated him. You hated. You was giving. You had hate sex.

[Damaris]

He got. I mean, he was like, yo, I.

[Rory]

Ain'T want to deal with the pain or the hate. So I just was like, yo, huh. Here, take this.

[Damaris]

Kind of cornered you on that one. Yeah, I was trying to defend you.

[Rory]

I couldn't.

[Damaris]

I got nothing, though.

[Rory]

You gave a hate sex. Hey, sex is the word when a say, huh? Here. Like, it's like, what I don't want.

[Maul]

That is you cool.

[Rory]

Like, you said this you on air.

[Maul]

Why are you attacking me?

[Rory]

No, no, no, no. I'm not attacking you. I'm saying you. You don't stand on hate is all I'm saying. Because you was hating homie when you wasn't. You was mad and I was going through your thing.

[Maul]

But if I see homie, it's never gonna be, yo, what up? It's still gonna be, oh, you. Like, I'm standing on the you.

[Damaris]

No, literally.

[Rory]

No literally. And he's literally you.

[Damaris]

I you right now.

[Rory]

Yeah, you standing on you. You want. How you actually. You know what, Baby D? You right. You standing on you don't say you standing on hate, though. Cause you're not standing.

[Maul]

Triple entendre. Don't even ask me.

[Damaris]

I definitely people I don't like, so. Yeah, I get it.

[Rory]

Yeah, it happens. But you can't say you hate them if you still gonna give us some. Some sex.

[Damaris]

I don't know.

[Rory]

You don't hate nobody. You don't hate nobody. You haven't. And if you do really hate somebody you having sex with, I've definitely. You need to go see a therapist. Like a new therapist, because the one you got ain't working. If you have sex with somebody you hate.

[Maul]

Hey, it's crazy.

[Damaris]

Hate is a strong word. I've never Someone that I hated.

[Rory]

Okay, now we have a different conversation.

[Damaris]

Disliked a woman. Like, where?

[Rory]

That's different.

[Damaris]

It pisses me off.

[Rory]

You're mad. You could be mad.

[Damaris]

I don't hate the pussy.

[Rory]

You're upset. Yeah, but hate. That's what I said, baby. You don't stand on hate.

[Maul]

I didn't hate you.

[Rory]

Stuttering, baby, it sound like we Got ad libs going. I don't know what's happening right now. What world are we in?

[Damaris]

I mean, no homo. I don't know if I've ever hated a girl before. I've hated men. I don't know if I've ever hated a woman before.

[Rory]

Yeah, See, then you look at me when I say that like, I'm crazy when I say I never had an argument with a woman. I never had a fight with a.

[Damaris]

Woman at a young age.

[Maul]

Argument and hate are like, like very.

[Damaris]

Like, like hate a woman. I don't know if I've ever. That's ever happened.

[Rory]

Yeah, I don't. I mean, I. I've had conversations and debates with women.

[Damaris]

You.

[Maul]

Have you disliked a woman before?

[Rory]

Disliked?

[Maul]

You don't like anybody I dislike, huh? You don't be liking people.

[Rory]

No, I like some people I like. Some people I'm dislike.

[Damaris]

That's a lit.

[Rory]

It depends on people I like. Yeah, I like some people, but I disliked. I've disliked a woman for something she may have said or done. But, like, like, I don't dislike her entire existence.

[Damaris]

Okay?

[Rory]

Like, I don't. You know, I'm saying when I see her, I don't feel like throwing up. It's not like that type of thing.

[Damaris]

Yeah, I've definitely. Even chicks that I've disliked and still and was like, what am I doing, wax?

[Rory]

Yeah, but.

[Damaris]

And, yeah, I can't really be around you anymore. But I hate is like a. There's men I've. I hate.

[Rory]

Oh, this. Oh, this woman. There's men I hate.

[Damaris]

I just.

[Rory]

There's men I hate. Like, I better not ever see nothing.

[Damaris]

But I don't know if I stand on business. Maybe I still feel. How'd she look like if I'm running into her.

[Maul]

You ain't never hated an ugly girl, you know, you ain't never hated an ugly girl.

[Damaris]

I've disliked and gotten away from very pretty women, but I. But again, I've never hated.

[Rory]

It's hard to hate a. What is a woman. A woman would have to do something, like, real diabolical to hate a woman. You got to do something crazy.

[Maul]

Kill your dog.

[Rory]

Yeah. They got to be something, like, extreme like that. Or like, you had to kind of like, I got wind that you might have tried to set me up or something. Like, that's when it's like.

[Damaris]

Like, that's hate. Yeah.

[Rory]

Oh, I hate that. That's when it's hate. But other than that, when it was like, yo, I hate. I'm like, what she do, yo. Cause she came over here and she. I'm like, hate. Like, you hate her behind that because she didn't call you back.

[Damaris]

I strung her along for months and never wiped her. And I was other bitches. Then she went and someone else.

[Rory]

Yo, I hate her. You hate that young lady.

[Damaris]

Like, oh, God.

[Maul]

That. Whenever I hear a man say hate, I be like, ooh, he gay.

[Damaris]

She.

[Maul]

She slept with somebody. Got more money than you, huh?

[Rory]

Oh, I thought you about to say he gay.

[Damaris]

If he hated him, that wouldn't be hate. It would just be he. All right, well, that sucks. Then you just move on. Yeah, hate would be. Hate is crazy, insane thing.

[Rory]

Like, I hate you.

[Maul]

I hate that. Like, ooh, chill. You hurt.

[Rory]

You hate me. Girl, you don't know that movie. Look, baby. I know, baby boy.

[Damaris]

Oh.

[Rory]

She's like, I hate you.

[Maul]

Oh, I do remember that you hate me.

[Rory]

You see what they was doing 10 minutes later?

[Damaris]

Yeah, but that's not something we should promote.

[Maul]

Yeah, that's one I. I really don't like.

[Damaris]

After you. After you finish, physically assaulted woman eating her should not be the solution. Ma, where were you when the AD and Luca trade was brought to your. Your phone, your front door, maybe?

[Rory]

Is it.

[Damaris]

Was it the Uber eats guy that lets you know when he knocked on your door of what had happened?

[Rory]

I was sitting down. I think it was the grams, right? That was yesterday, right?

[Damaris]

No, the night before Saturday. Saturday night. Super late, actually. Actually, it was almost right before midnight on Saturday night.

[Rory]

Oh, Saturday night. Yes. So I was. I was in bed. I was laying down. I was. I was on my phone looking at some clip. It was a porn. I don't know what it was. It wasn't. No, it wasn't porn. I'm a classy guy. I don't watch porn. After our showers, before I shower.

[Damaris]

Fair.

[Rory]

So I was watching something, and then I saw my homeboy had text me and was like, is this real? So, you know, whenever you see that in a text, I'm like, all right, man. What's happening? It. And I clicked on it, and it was. DeLuca has been traded. The Dallas Mavericks trade Luca Doncic to the LA Lakers for Anthony Davis. And I immediately read it and was like, yeah, right. I was like, there's no way. Luca for AD no, this. This is not real.

[Damaris]

And I was out with some of my fry brothers. Someone said that this was after Amar's birthday party, and everyone shamed him and cursed him out for, like, saying some dumb. You don't even watch sports. Shut the Up.

[Rory]

Yeah. Yeah. And then I text.

[Damaris]

They treated him that way.

[Rory]

And then I text, oh, that's what I was doing. I think it was the. I think the fight had just ended. The Benavidez fight had, I think, just ended when that happened. And I text my boy, Laker legend Trevor Reez, and I hit him. I was like, I always go to him to see if things are real or not, especially when it comes to the Lakers. And before he could respond, I hit him back and said, no, it's confirmed. And he was like, oh, wow. Like, he couldn't even believe that. And I think that was something that was resonated around the league. I don't think any player, any gm, any president, any owner could have predicted that the Dallas Mavericks would trade away easily. Top three player in the league right now. And, you know, nobody saw it coming. Wasn't. It wasn't even any rumors of this happening. Like, it wasn't a rumor. It wasn't anything like, yo, the Lakers is talking about moving ad it was. There was no talk about it. Luka has been hurt. He hasn't been playing. Kyrie's been holding it down for the Mavs. So this literally came out of nowhere. Now that we have more information, the GM for the Mavericks said that they had him and Rob Pelinka. It was just conversations between them. They couldn't even tell nobody. Coach Jason Kidd, he didn't even know anything about it, which I think is absolutely fucking crazy that the head coach doesn't know that you're about to trade away the franchise player, His. His starting point guard. And then there was a reason. Cause then I got into the. Well, why did they trade him? There had to be something that Luka told them about maybe not signing an extension. There were talks about Luka had gone up to about 270 plus pounds since he hasn't been playing, that he gained a lot of weight. Talks about him being a liability on defense. And they felt like they could never really win and get over the hump with Lucas being a defensive liability. I don't care what the talks is. Trading away Luka Doncic for Anthony Jermaine Davis. I don't even know his middle name. Is absolute blasphemy. Now, I will say, as a Laker.

[Damaris]

Fan, how do you feel, though?

[Rory]

I'm still. As a Laker fan, I'm. I'm, you know, I'm not mad at it. I got Luca, but it's like. Like it's still not the roster as it stands today. While we're Recording this is still not enough to have any success.

[Damaris]

You don't feel like the chemistry between him and Bronny will be good enough.

[Rory]

It's not enough. You have two ball dominant players.

[Damaris]

Bronnie.

[Rory]

I don't see no LeBron. I don't see Luka and LeBron complimenting each other. Well, even though LeBron is a willing passer, he's a. But then he needs the ball in his hands to pass. Yeah, Luka needs the ball in his hands to score. Pass whatever he wants, decides to do it has to run through Luka.

[Damaris]

Well, Kyrie, even being a point guard is still ball dominant, but.

[Rory]

Yeah, but Kyrie's a different type of. Kyrie doesn't care about scoring 20 points. Yeah, he doesn't care about that. Kyrie can go and get 20, 25 points if he wants to, but I think Kyrie's, he's that type of guy as we know where he's okay with, with tucking his ego away a little bit. He doesn't have much of an ego when it comes. He knows he's one of the best players in the league, but he doesn't. Kyrie is a different type of complimentary player. Whatever you need Kyrie to do, he's going to do it. LeBron is one of the greatest players ever. He's at the point in his career where obviously he wants to try to win again. So maybe he will be willing to come off the ball a little bit and be less of a facilitator and a ball dominant guy. I just don't see these two style of play complementing each other that well. I think that the Lakers obviously still need to address their center position. I think they need another guy off the bench that they can rely on night in, night out to kind of pick up the scoring slack whenever Luka or LeBron, you know, aren't scoring the ball as well. There's a lot of gaps that the Lakers still need to address. But, but let's keep everything in perspective. This is a great rebuilding point. If Luka does decide that he wants to sign a long term deal.

[Damaris]

Face of the Lakers with the Lakers bronze own. He's the new face.

[Rory]

Yeah, but we don't know he's a statue. Yeah, but we don't know what Luka wants. Luka may not be looking for the spotlight of Hollywood. That may not mean anything to Luka Doncic. He might. He was cool in Dallas, you know what I mean? Like, he doesn't, I don't think that he's like you know, dying to be under the light. He's a player that. No matter. He could be playing in Alabama and the lights are going to be bright whenever Luke is on the court. So he doesn't need the Hollywood allure. He doesn't need that.

[Damaris]

In no way am I comparing Lakers, Knicks, even the Bulls for that matter, to what the Dallas Mavericks market is like. But let's not pretend Mark Cuban didn't put together a franchise that is in the limelight all the time. Like, Luka's still very much. It's not la, of course. Yeah, but that's. I mean, Luka is somewhat used to that. That Dallas may be the biggest B market. Mark Cuban made that shit. Limelight.

[Rory]

Oh, no, for sure. But Luca Luka's been a. He's been a star since he was 17 years old. Like, this is not, you know, him being the star is not new to him. I just, again, don't think he'll be at highlight room. No, no, he won't be there, but I just think that the.

[Damaris]

With a Coors light.

[Rory]

Nah, he's. Luka's not that type of guy. I just think that they. They gotta address the rest of the roster, though. This is a great start. This is a great. Obviously a focal point, a centerpiece, but. But they need to kind of dress up the rest of the table before they decide to have Thanksgiving dinner.

[Damaris]

Yeah, before we get to voicemails on Thursday Evening, probably around 11:00pm EST, I'll put out. I peach. Put a flyer together. Whatever. Gonna go on YouTube live. Do a little live stream before the single comes out. Cut it off at midnight so everyone can actually go listen to it and get my streams up and stream farm it rather than listen to it with me.

[Rory]

Wait, so you're gonna have a listening party for the song that isn't out yet? Until the song drops.

[Damaris]

Yeah, but I'm gonna play it. It like, it's already clear. I can play it on YouTube so they can hear it before then.

[Rory]

How much trouble are you in at the label? Like, how much? Because I actually.

[Damaris]

You should see the back end now, man. I just want to push the record, see if Leon's available. Maybe you could call in, you know.

[Rory]

Oh, no, no, I'll definitely call in, but I just. I want to know, like, all right, what's. What we doing?

[Damaris]

Like, you're not gonna super chat me? You're not gonna send me $20?

[Rory]

No, no, I'll super chat you, but I'm just saying, like, I just want to make sure the labeling like, yo, fam, you gotta. The label's not telling you to do this.

[Damaris]

No.

[Rory]

Okay, this is. This is all you.

[Damaris]

The label is. Is me, Aad and Brit.

[Rory]

But Azad and Britt could have been on you like, yo.

[Damaris]

Oh, I mean, if they would have said that, I would agree with them, but it was. Yeah, I just figured it'd be a cool. Because we used we Thursday night around like 11pm Eastern. We used to do Instagram live, but you know, we can't do that no more. Yeah, yeah, they took all the fun away from that. Yeah, yeah, get on YouTube, do some super chats.

[Rory]

That it? Let's do a Spaces. You want to do a Spaces? Maybe the next day I'll be a social media for the night. It. I'll go everywhere with you. We can hop around. We could.

[Damaris]

Spaces doesn't care about music. They care about drama.

[Maul]

Can we bar hop and go and like, ask them, like, request like, yo, I got something for you. I feel like that would be cool content.

[Rory]

Are you trying to do street team? Go play the record.

[Maul]

We bar hopping like, yo, play this. That'll be fun.

[Rory]

No, they gonna hit Rory with the name of the song. Who are you?

[Damaris]

Like, that's the thing.

[Rory]

Like, exactly. Play the song and find out.

[Damaris]

I'm going to first choice at little sister that night. Be like, yo, here's the vinyl.

[Rory]

It's going crazy.

[Damaris]

Like these one, these are CDJs.

[Rory]

And two, no, it's going crazy. I need the song though, because I'm actually. I'm actually doing an R B playlist that's dropping after your song come out. So I'm gonna add that song to my.

[Damaris]

Oh, nice. I appreciate it. I sent it to radio. I sent the clean version.

[Rory]

Leon was talking crazy on there.

[Damaris]

He curses once.

[Rory]

Oh, they played Pedophile at the Grammys.

[Damaris]

Are we talking? Didn't say though.

[Rory]

This is stupid. Anyway, sorry, baby. Do we have voicemails?

[Maul]

Yeah, we do.

[Rory]

You've got mail. Hey, everybody.

[Damaris]

I'm calling because I need to make a major life changing decision.

[Rory]

Why are you calling us? Few months and I need like a.

[Damaris]

Second or third opinion. So, long story short, I'm 29 years old, I'm from Florida and I used to be married for five years, but I'm currently going through a divorce. I need to decide if I want to move to a different city, move to another state, or move out of the country. My ex, she lives here. She has a career here and I don't see her moving anytime soon.

[Rory]

So I want to get away from.

[Damaris]

Her like as fast as possible. Back when I was in the military, I lived in Germany for three years. Okay. So he's got. And Europe was like the best time of my life. A lot of my friends got out of military and they still live there.

[Rory]

And they told me that, like, they're.

[Damaris]

Never coming back to America and staying in Europe was the best decision that they could have made.

[Rory]

Yes.

[Damaris]

So I'm heavily thinking about moving back to Europe.

[Rory]

Yes.

[Damaris]

Only problem is I come from a huge family and we've got property and my uncle is pretty much making it my responsibility to take care of it. So I don't know if I want to be selfish and move or if I want to take care of the family business. My lease ends in August. My grandmother's body wasn't even cold before my pop sold that house. Sell it.

[Maul]

Oh, is you cool?

[Rory]

I respect that.

[Damaris]

Your family. Listen, sell that.

[Rory]

Well, I was laughing because I knew where he was leading with that question of should he move to another city state. I knew he was literally trying to completely get away from his ex wife. He don't even wanna maybe bump into her anywhere in the city.

[Damaris]

That's a crazy divorce where you're like, yeah, I'm thinking about maybe another town or maybe another country.

[Rory]

Country. Yeah, another country. I wish he would have told us if the family property or businesses in the city he's currently in.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Because then I would say, well, just move to that city and run the family business. You kind of kill two birds with one stone.

[Maul]

No, it's in the city.

[Rory]

It's in the city that he lives in.

[Maul]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Okay, so maybe move somewhere close like if you live in Dallas, move to Austin. One of those type of things, man.

[Damaris]

I can hear the tone in his voice. Fuck everybody over there. Go back to Europe, Go to Germany, where you felt alive, where you felt free.

[Rory]

Yeah. Go to.

[Damaris]

Go to London when you knew yourself.

[Rory]

Move to Paris or move to London. Yeah, just enjoy your life. You can still come back and visit and, you know, spend a week in the town where your family business is at and get, you know, your business affairs in order and then go back to. Go back to London or go back to Paris. Like I say, if your heart is in, you know, living overseas because you enjoyed your time when you were in the military and you live there and you already have a village there, friends, a support system over there, I say go for it, man, whatever makes you happy. But I think that there's still a way where he could still come back and forth and. And make sure. That the family business is. Yeah, it's doing all right.

[Damaris]

Or stay in the town and. And do some spiteful shit. Make sure that that company thrives. You buy more property off your uncle's lot and keep going until you have run your ex out of town.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

If she's gonna buy property or do anything within the town, she has to go through you.

[Rory]

I like that. I like.

[Damaris]

Either commit all the way to it or go back to where you felt alive when you were in the military in Germany. Them weird white women that, you know, there's a little bit of stubble under their armpits, but enough that you'd still be wherever you feel alive, bro, Just go do that. Because I could tell, like even when he started talking about the military in Germany, you could say his voice got a little higher.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

That was the last time he looked in the mirror and saw himself.

[Rory]

He felt alive.

[Damaris]

Yes, he smiled with the Frankfurts and all that.

[Rory]

I like giving good advice.

[Damaris]

Don't do that, man.

[Rory]

And giving toxic advice. My toxic advice would be date her sister there.

[Maul]

Yeah, that was his wife, Maul, not his. Just a random chick. He was messing with his wife.

[Damaris]

He clearly doesn't like her anymore though.

[Maul]

He hate. No, he hates her.

[Rory]

Yeah, he hates her.

[Maul]

He hates her.

[Rory]

We was talking earlier about hate. He hates that he's. He's thinking about moving out of the country to not run into that woman. So date her sister, bro.

[Damaris]

She's held you back.

[Rory]

Give her sister a little pickle tickle, you know, just hit it a couple times.

[Damaris]

He had dreams. He wanted to. He wanted to get a house on the countryside in Germany, right outside a concentration camp. That was his dream. And she took that away.

[Rory]

Yeah. Listen, man, do what you gotta do. But you know, I know the family business is kinda on the back of his mind, as he said. I would say either move to another city close to where the family business is so that you still have distance in between you and your ex wife, or completely abandon the family business for.

[Damaris]

A while or your family in general.

[Rory]

Go back to Europe. Come back and forth, you know, a couple times out of the year. I mean, it's doable, but you know, whatever makes you happy. If overseas and Europe is calling you. Go back to Europe, man.

[Damaris]

Go make your own beer. Go dress like the Grinch when he finally went to Whoville in that get up. Dress that way. Do what you want to do, man.

[Rory]

Yeah, man. Gotta make yourself happy. You good, baby D?

[Maul]

I don't think he should be running from his ex wife, but that's just me. I don't know what happened.

[Damaris]

Nah, don't stay ten toes in town and make yourself more miserable to prove a point. That's what men, we die inside because we always have to prove a point. Point. And that point's going to make us more miserable when we could just let that go and move to Australia.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Like, we could just be happy, but we have to stay right here to make sure everyone else is miserable.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Just to prove that point. Nah, just leave.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Go to Greenland for $5,000 for a week. You can go to Antarctica on a cruise. Five grand, easy. You can go see the 24 Hour Sun.

[Rory]

Yeah, I like that. Hopefully you gave you some good advice. Don't listen to us, but hopefully we gave you some good advice.

[Damaris]

What would you do? What would be the first thing you do off a terrible fresh divorce. Let's say 10 years. She took your youth, she took your money, she took your. Your livelihood. She just. She took every bit of being that you had.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

And then you hit the lotto. Let's add that in a scenario. So you hit the lotto, you have some money to play with, you can do something immediately.

[Rory]

I hit the lotto, bro. Before we got divorced, you left the.

[Damaris]

Courthouse and then you saw the Powerball numbers and it was her birthday.

[Rory]

Oh, God, man, I gotta move wherever she live. I gotta move across the street.

[Damaris]

Yeah, this is what I'm saying. Men just want to make themselves miserable to prove a point.

[Rory]

No, I would be happy. She's gonna be the miserable one, though, when she see that, that party bus pulling up every night with strippers. Yeah, she gonna be the mirror.

[Maul]

Yeah, but you're gonna start to feel empty inside after a while.

[Rory]

Who, me?

[Damaris]

It was her fault, though.

[Rory]

Baby D, if you think I hit the Powerball and I'm gonna feel empty inside after hitting the Powerball, you gotta.

[Maul]

Be fucking the strippers from the strippers. Having strippers at your house every night.

[Rory]

Oh, it's just a party. You don't have a stripper. Just have a party.

[Maul]

Just, you know, every night. Ma, I can't even imagine. I can't imagine you having a party one night.

[Rory]

No, I would not cope with none of you niggas. I don't wanna see none of you hoes. You will never. You will never be able to find.

[Maul]

Me if you go in a park.

[Rory]

The only way you will find me is if you happen to go to vacation on the island I live on and just bump into me on the beach because I'm wearing I'm not cutting my hair. I'm wearing the same shit every day. I hit the power bomb out of here. Y'all will never see me again. This podcast. Fuck all this shit. I'm out.

[Maul]

But you could do that now.

[Rory]

Say, fuck this podcast.

[Maul]

And. Yeah, but you could go live somewhere on an island now. Like, living on an island isn't that expensive.

[Rory]

No, it's not.

[Maul]

You want that life?

[Rory]

I have to be here.

[Damaris]

That. On the island of Manhattan.

[Rory]

But we are on the island island. But, you know, I've been to Long Island.

[Damaris]

It's expensive, too.

[Maul]

Long island is the most expensive island.

[Damaris]

So that's it? You just move to another island and.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Not cut your hair.

[Rory]

Yeah. Completely off the grid.

[Damaris]

Okay.

[Rory]

I don't need a party. I don't need a bunch of people around me. I don't need that. I don't need that Alpha. I have a couple, you know, a couple lady friends that read books to me and things like that. That. Okay, you know, I mean, that's what.

[Damaris]

You pay them for. To just, like, read you.

[Rory]

No, like, tell me what you read this month and, you know, give me, like, the breakdown of the book and kind of like, be like, my. My in my real life audio book. Like, kind of like, just give me the story.

[Damaris]

This is a great episode. Everyone. Have a wonderful week. We will be back.

[Rory]

We will be black.

[Maul]

Wait, now, hold on, because I have a. We have our first voicemail submission for the Valentine's Day.

[Rory]

Really?

[Damaris]

Oh, we. Starting out the gate. I thought. I thought we were going to play them all on Valentine's Day. Should we give a little. Just a little tease for people to still submit?

[Maul]

You want to play them on Valentine's Day?

[Damaris]

What? No, we. We can tease this one because. Damn.

[Rory]

But what if someone's, like, really good and, like. Like, we just going to not, like, consider it for, like.

[Damaris]

No, it could set the tone that everyone that comes after this is trash.

[Rory]

Okay, I like that.

[Damaris]

This could set the tone.

[Rory]

Now you using your.

[Damaris]

So this could be a promo.

[Rory]

I'm.

[Damaris]

I'm with that for the first one.

[Rory]

Okay.

[Damaris]

But you guys do still have two weeks almost.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

To submit.

[Maul]

No, it. It ends. You have until February 11th. 11th.

[Damaris]

Yes. Okay. February 11th. So you have some time. You even have a weekend, right?

[Rory]

You have a week. Yeah, got a week.

[Maul]

I gotta write my freestyle. Y'all can write. Y'all to take me and mall out. They were upset. I wrote. One of the rules that we came up with is that, you know, you can't try to there's only one submission per person, so you can't try to shoot at me and shoot at mall. Like the buys. They can't try to get both of us.

[Damaris]

Yeah, yeah. You have to pick. Pick a gender.

[Maul]

Yeah, I said pick a struggle.

[Rory]

Pick a struggle.

[Maul]

Dating me and dating Ma. Pick a struggle, babe.

[Damaris]

Yeah, that'd be a rough one.

[Rory]

Wait, wait. What y'all trying to say right now? Why would that be a rough one?

[Damaris]

That's someone that was dating you and Baby D at the same time. Yeah, I think we can all say that.

[Maul]

That's a 13th and 14th reason. But we gonna roll the voicemail and listen to this young man's submission. I haven't heard it yet. I just heard him say that he was submitting, so I'm excited.

[Damaris]

Okay.

[Rory]

Hello, crew. My name is Eric Crumble from Kansas City.

[Damaris]

Did he sing Chocolate Rain? The Pod?

[Rory]

I watched you guys from day one. I've listened to you guys as well.

[Damaris]

He got the voice.

[Rory]

You're phenomenal.

[Damaris]

This is a Valentine's message for my favorite Pause for a second pod member is this. This must be one of those 40 year olds that was in your TikTok. DMS for sure.

[Maul]

Don't do that. I don't think so.

[Damaris]

He recorded this on a Bluetooth in his ear.

[Maul]

I heard his voice now. I was like, oh, his voice. Pretty deep.

[Rory]

This is the bone collector. I saw that movie talking about I.

[Damaris]

Should bring a gun when I drive.

[Rory]

Yeah, like, you kidding me? He drives a taxi and kills his victims.

[Damaris]

Go ahead, Myers. I'm quite a connoisseur of wine.

[Rory]

My favorite.

[Damaris]

A nice Merlot.

[Maul]

Okay.

[Rory]

And this is a poem entitled Merlot for Baby dad.

[Damaris]

Okay.

[Rory]

Is it me or is it the.

[Damaris]

Place where we amidst fields of plum.

[Rory]

And oak, Shimmering texture bends with agility as you dance.

[Damaris]

Supply I spin, you watching, earnestly you say supply Lay set, blow from origin, finishing at eternity.

[Rory]

Your bouquet's fragrance in the anticipation of.

[Damaris]

Your taste moves men's palace to thirst.

[Rory]

Eager to draw your full body closer to me.

[Damaris]

He said he was eager. Ride my tongue, sweetness. He went left.

[Maul]

I am.

[Damaris]

Yeah. The cops just raided his house.

[Maul]

Ma.

[Damaris]

They kicked the door in.

[Maul]

Ma.

[Damaris]

You wasn't feeling his wine tasting?

[Rory]

Yo.

[Damaris]

Damaris is the vineyard in that you ain't catch them.

[Maul]

He said my bouquet's fragrance. Yo, come on now.

[Rory]

Yo, man. Oh, my God. Baby.

[Damaris]

I was never crushing grapes.

[Rory]

I will never let Baby D go anywhere with that, man. Are you kidding me?

[Maul]

Stop. No, because I do want people to send in good poems.

[Rory]

Baby D, I Want people to send good poems in, too. That wasn't a good poem.

[Maul]

Yes, it was.

[Damaris]

It was a good poem. It was. The delivery made me.

[Rory]

What was good about that poem?

[Damaris]

He had. He had some entendres, but let me check my.

[Rory]

He had Some entendres.

[Damaris]

My pedophile app that I. What's his name and address? Cause he's definitely on that shit.

[Maul]

No, I don't think so. I mean, I was, you know, the offender. Watch the writing of the tongue at the end. I think he jumped. Jumped off the bridge a little bit. But I think before that he had.

[Rory]

A wet dream while he was awake.

[Damaris]

So he nutted.

[Rory]

Ride my tongue. Eight P's Clip that. Ride my tongue sweetness.

[Damaris]

Is this Bubba from Forrest Gump?

[Rory]

Ride my tongue sweetness.

[Damaris]

Sounds like junk coffee, Yo.

[Rory]

It's some sick in the world, man. I'm telling you.

[Maul]

You can't make fun. People aren't going to want to submit.

[Rory]

All right, I'm sorry. Yo, that was amazing, dog. You got to send, like, if we.

[Damaris]

Genius that and, like, get the lyrics. He was talking some. It's just how he presented it was a little creepy.

[Rory]

All right, so that's what I'm laughing.

[Maul]

I don't think it was creepy. He called a voice.

[Rory]

This is how you end up on the 10 o'clock news? Because you don't think this is creepy?

[Maul]

Well, we. How. No, this is what I'm saying.

[Rory]

You gonna walk right into it. Okay, what time you want to pick me up? Right upside your. Now you in the trunk in a fucking Glad fucking garbage bag.

[Maul]

Well, he's not. What I'm saying is, it wasn't like it was uninvited. We told him to write a poem. Yeah, Some Rizz with some Riz. If you want to take me out. He called the number and did what we asked him to do.

[Rory]

Yeah, but we didn't ask him to put that filter on there.

[Maul]

That's his voice.

[Rory]

Ride my tongue sweetness what is that shit? Ride my tongue sweetness he's jacking that. You feeling with that.

[Maul]

He sounds like his Adam's apple big. And that's a good sign.

[Rory]

She gonna end up in the trunk. I'm telling you. This is what's gonna happen with Baby D. Look at what she's interested in.

[Maul]

Well, Rory's driving us around.

[Rory]

He gonna end up in the trunk with you. Soon as y'all go pick this weird up. Like, both of y'all in the trunk talking about how we gonna get out of here.

[Damaris]

Yeah, both of y'all, like you set her up home. Like I could just. You want the keys? I would never do that. I'll bring my gun.

[Rory]

Yo, that dude is. He's from where Peach is from, bro. Kansas City.

[Damaris]

So is he gonna fly if he wins? Like, is he gonna. Because I'm down to drive and pay for the meal, but he ain't gonna fly. Kansas City.

[Maul]

People who aren't in the ride, some tug who are in the tri State area or, like, immediately close to us, we'll give them a prize. It won't be the date, but.

[Damaris]

Okay.

[Rory]

Yo, that is funny, as.

[Damaris]

I think that was a good way to pop it off.

[Rory]

Yeah. No, he set the. He set the bar. He set the tone. He said he ain't not bullshitting. And somebody got. Who gonna beat Rob my tongue. Who gonna beat that?

[Maul]

He like. He on time, and he got straight to it.

[Damaris]

You feel me? And if you've been to a winery, there was. There was some word play there. Yeah, he went kind of crazy.

[Rory]

He said Plum.

[Damaris]

He called her.

[Rory]

He called Plum and Oak. Plum and oak.

[Damaris]

I. You know what I think this is? I think this is hate. That's okay, cuz. I don't think I've. I've went through the voicemails. Is there any from all yet?

[Maul]

They're all for Baby D. Not any for all yet.

[Damaris]

You can't even get these chicks to run.

[Rory]

Yo. Thank y'all. Appreciate it. Appreciate it.

[Damaris]

Yeah, you can't even get the fellas to rhyme for you.

[Rory]

I'm cool. Thank you. This is America.

[Damaris]

Will you listen to any of the poems that the. The fellas send for you, though?

[Maul]

For the merch? It don't got to be a date, but for the gift.

[Rory]

Baby D, one thing I can promise you is if any send a poem in here for me. We are not listening to that.

[Damaris]

Okay? Facts.

[Maul]

We playing that.

[Damaris]

Me and Damaris will listen to it live on air when Maul goes to the. The bathroom.

[Rory]

Okay. Yeah, yeah. I won't. I won't sit here. I'm not listening to that. Because if a dude call and tell me to ride his tongue, we gonna have a problem. Like, y'all want content.

[Damaris]

What's the issue?

[Rory]

Y'all want content.

[Damaris]

It's for art purposes.

[Rory]

Yeah, I know art.

[Damaris]

Back to Kanye's wife, everything.

[Rory]

Yeah, I get it.

[Damaris]

Yeah. So I was thinking, for artwork, if. If Peach makes you Kanye and me that girl, I'm gonna be tight.

[Maul]

Damn. He already had. He was already over here working on it. How'd you know?

[Damaris]

N. Peter have my hooha Right on the red carpet.

[Rory]

Can't have that N. I know what we could do. We could do Rory could be Chappelle Rome. What's her name?

[Maul]

Chapel.

[Rory]

Chapel Rome. And I could be Baby Face.

[Damaris]

Yeah. No, that works out great for me. I love the balance. Yeah, it feels. That feels very.

[Rory]

You feel seen? Do you feel seen?

[Damaris]

I couldn't be a homie that's doing backflips off the piano. Right. I gotta be Chapel Roan Vincent. Boom. You know how many amazing white men did last night? That was fire. Now I'm Chappelle Rome.

[Maul]

Chapel.

[Rory]

Yo. Oh.

[Damaris]

Ride my ponies.

[Rory]

Oh, man. Ride my tongue. Sweetness.

[Maul]

You ain't never told nobody. Ride your tongue who? Never mind.

[Rory]

Yeah, I was. See? Good. Look at you. You just. You know me. She don't even know.

[Maul]

Look at the screen.

[Rory]

She don't even know.

[Damaris]

We don't do that. At the top. This was a fun episode. Shout out to everyone that won a Grammy Award. Shout out to everyone that was nominated and did not win. That's still an amazing accomplishment. And shout out to everyone that released incredible music and did not get nominated or win an award. You are still great as well.

[Rory]

Shout out to the Weeknd. I hate the fact that he didn't make that song. Opening night. A little longer. That shit is crazy on the album.

[Damaris]

Yeah. I need some more time to live with the album. But I did like it off first listen. It's like an hour and a half. Half? Yeah, at his birthday party yesterday. Tough to like. You can't. That's not setup music.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

It's just Mickey Mouse clubhouse. But we will talk next episode more about the weekend album. I did like it off the first listen. And this was fun. I am sick as fuck. I need to leave.

[Rory]

Yeah, man. I got you. Did you take your ginger shot?

[Damaris]

I did. Yes.

[Rory]

All right. Take a shower.

[Damaris]

Shot of myself.

[Rory]

Go home. Take a shower. Sleep with your sweatsuit on.

[Damaris]

Yep.

[Rory]

Sweat that shit out. We'll kick it with y'all in a couple days. Everybody be safe, be blessed, be healthy. Me, I'm that nigga. He drank some ginger. Peace. New warrior now.