Episode 355 | Vacu-glide

Summary

Podcast Summary: New Rory & MAL – Episode 355 | Vacu-glide

Release Date: March 21, 2025

Hosts: Rory and Mal
Produced by: iHeartPodcasts and The Volume
Description: New stories, new laughs, new random hot takes that no one asked for...

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1. Introduction and Recording Setup [02:15 - 05:43]

The episode kicks off as Rory and Mal prepare to start recording. They engage in a light-hearted discussion about audio quality, debating the merits of raw vocals versus auto-tuned tracks.

• Mal: "Nah, keep the raw vocals. I think we nailed it." [04:35]

This segment sets a casual and humorous tone, reflecting their chemistry and ease with each other.

2. Single Parenthood and Balancing Podcasting [05:43 - 24:00]

Mal shares his recent experience as a single dad since Kia, his partner, has been abroad celebrating her birthday with friends. The conversation delves into the challenges of managing parenting responsibilities while maintaining the podcast's regular output.

• Mal: "I have been a full single dad for the last week, which is going to continue on until next Wednesday." [02:54]

• Rory: "Men don't never want to, like, ask. Help is welcome." [05:33]

They discuss the dynamics of single parenthood, emphasizing the importance of being present for their daughter, Amara, who is thriving and enjoying her time independently.

3. The Breakfast Club Show Analysis [24:00 - 43:46]

A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to analyzing recent tensions within The Breakfast Club radio show. Rory and Mal dissect the conflict between Jess and Lauren, examining the broader implications of workplace dynamics, particularly for women in media.

• Rory: "I do respect the way Lauren handled it because she's trying to keep it strictly professional as possible." [15:30]

• Mal: "This is one of those situations that's annoying, and I feel for them because everybody is right." [22:43]

They explore themes of professionalism, gender stereotypes, and the impact of internet commentary on personal and professional relationships. The hosts express empathy for both Jess and Lauren, acknowledging the complexities involved in such disputes.

4. Comedy Specials and Industry Insights [43:46 - 70:00]

Rory and Mal shift focus to the world of comedy, reviewing various stand-up specials and sharing their personal favorites. They critique performances, discuss the evolution of comedians' styles, and reflect on how personal experiences influence comedic material.

• Rory: "I love Chris Rock for his ability to push boundaries while maintaining relatability." [74:05]

• Mal: "Dave Attell's 'Skanks for the Memories' is underrated and showcases his brilliant, twisted humor." [83:54]

This segment highlights their deep appreciation for comedy as an art form and its role in reflecting and shaping societal narratives.

5. Touring Anecdotes and Personal Stories [70:00 - 90:00]

The conversation becomes more personal as Rory and Mal share anecdotes from their experiences on the road. They recount humorous and harrowing moments from touring, such as navigating tour buses, dealing with unexpected delays, and maintaining morale during long drives.

• Mal: "We were driving from Charlotte to Richmond, and the driver fell asleep at the wheel. It was terrifying." [76:07]

• Rory: "I feel like my career is a lot like a vacuum. You always feel like you're sucking up everything." [91:35]

These stories offer listeners a glimpse into the logistical and emotional challenges of maintaining a podcast while traveling, reinforcing the hosts' camaraderie and resilience.

6. Guest Interview: Sam Morrill [66:11 - 90:00]

In a special segment, Rory and Mal welcome comedian, writer, producer, and actor Sam Morrill as their guest. They engage in a dynamic conversation about Sam's career, his approach to comedy, and his experiences in the entertainment industry.

• Sam Morrill: "If people are panicking, you gotta make jokes out of it. If it's in the news, I'll take a stab at it." [71:06]

• Rory: "How much do you pay attention to what's going on in the world versus what you can joke about?" [70:51]

Sam discusses the balance between addressing serious topics through humor and navigating the fine line between sensitive and offensive material. The hosts appreciate his candidness and comedic insight, adding depth to the episode.

7. Closing Thoughts and Future Plans [90:00 - End]

As the episode concludes, Rory and Mal reflect on the discussions they've had, reiterating the importance of balance in both personal and professional life. They tease upcoming content, hinting at future guests and topics, and express gratitude to their listeners for their continued support.

• Rory: "Enjoy the time, man. Enjoy while it lasts." [07:19]

• Mal: "We need to figure out what's going on here, because I did this for y'all." [24:00]

The hosts maintain their signature humor and relatability, leaving listeners eagerly anticipating the next episode.

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Notable Quotes:

• "Men don't never want to, like, ask. Help is welcome." – Rory [05:33]
• "Bijou Walk, you're a diehard fan. You must put us in front of the crowd shouting like a lunatic." – Mal [61:58]
• "This is a product of people sitting down on platforms and speaking about things that are, one, illegal, and two, you shouldn't share publicly." – Mal [55:00]

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Conclusion

Episode 355 of New Rory & MAL offers a blend of personal storytelling, insightful analysis of media dynamics, and engaging discussions on comedy and touring life. Rory and Mal's authentic rapport and willingness to delve into both lighthearted and serious topics make this episode a compelling listen for both regular followers and new audience members alike.

Transcript

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You had a music to listen to. Listen to. You had a. That they listen to.

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AI that. That is going platinum.

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Nah, keep the raw vocals. P.E. i think we nailed it.

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You know what I'm saying?

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That that was it. We put dad. Dad of the year just happens to be amongst y'all. I know it's. It's an honor for you guys.

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It's a pleasure for you to meet me.

[Advertiser 3]

Kia has been celebrating her birthday with her friends out of the country. So I. I have been. I've been full. Full single dad for the last week, which is going to continue on until next Wednesday.

[Advertiser 2]

Oh, my God.

[Advertiser 3]

I made it halfway, though. We're at Thursday. I'm doing good.

[Advertiser 2]

Okay.

[Advertiser 3]

I'm a little.

[Advertiser 2]

You're doing good. How's Amara doing?

[Advertiser 4]

That's right.

[Advertiser 2]

That's the questions we gotta ask.

[Advertiser 3]

Having a blast. She can do anything she wants.

[Advertiser 2]

Oh, yes.

[Advertiser 3]

No one's had more fun than Amara since the entire thing.

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There you go.

[Advertiser 3]

Yeah. There's no repercussions. Nothing at all.

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Stay up.

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You don't want to take a bath? Who cares?

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Bath batch math. Ok. Cares. Who cares?

[Advertiser 3]

I was telling all. I don't know if you guys can see Amara was. We were at like, the second part of, you know, the slide that they have at playgrounds, which everyone knows slides are my enemies with her, but they had one of the second levels that could go to another part of the. Another playground structure. And there's like a rope course right there. And I saw Amara get a little too confident and start running towards some. That wasn't. Wasn't for her yet. And I was just locked in on her. Was running, but it's. It's low, so I had to like, run like this. Full blown. Ran right into a pole. I don't know if you guys can see this.

[Advertiser 4]

I can.

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Yeah.

[Advertiser 3]

No. When I've been not knocked out. But like, that shit in cartoons is real. When you see that, like, white and flashes.

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Dope.

[Advertiser 3]

Hit that. And I had to be in straight dad mode, but I could not see. I'm just grabbing for a Marlins grab.

[Advertiser 2]

The one in the middle.

[Advertiser 3]

Just grabbing. I ran full speed into that. I did not even see it.

[Advertiser 2]

Yeah, I thought the 60s caught up to you, so.

[Advertiser 3]

Yes, we're gonna get to that. I was telling the Mares I don't know if that gives us more street credit than we. We never had to pay. They protected us just off the strength.

[Advertiser 2]

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[Advertiser 4]

Ah, Vladdy.

[Advertiser 3]

I don't even know what you're talking about.

[Advertiser 2]

I don't know what you're talking about either.

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No, like. Like, we know 60 people in. Oh, LA is what I'm.

[Advertiser 2]

60 people in New York. 60 people in LA. That's fact.

[Advertiser 3]

What are y'all talking about?

[Advertiser 4]

They be rolling.

[Advertiser 3]

Amara see me rolling. They hating, right? Like, yeah, that's what? I thought y'all was on.

[Advertiser 4]

Oh, okay, cool.

[Advertiser 1]

All right, cool.

[Advertiser 3]

This wasn't that.

[Advertiser 4]

Nah.

[Advertiser 3]

Okay. See y'all listen to no jumper. I don't know what the y'all talking about.

[Advertiser 2]

So you got tomorrow for another, what, five days?

[Advertiser 3]

Yeah.

[Advertiser 2]

I gotta call and check in you. Now that I know that that's what you can just.

[Advertiser 3]

It's not a big deal. It's just, you know, help. Help helps.

[Advertiser 2]

Yo. Men don't never want to, like, ask. Help is. Help is welcome. If anybody wants to help me out, it's welcome. Please, anybody, just save me.

[Advertiser 3]

Yeah. No, us two parent homes are underrated as far as people working and coming home. Yeah.

[Advertiser 2]

This shit is to have just you and your daughter time.

[Advertiser 3]

Like, oh, no, I'm actually really had a lot of fun.

[Advertiser 2]

Yeah.

[Advertiser 3]

I've. And Kia doesn't listen to this podcast, so it's. It's totally fine.

[Advertiser 2]

Ikea.

[Advertiser 3]

I've been like, downplaying how much fun I've been having. It's like, I don't want her to feel away.

[Advertiser 2]

Yeah, you gotta keep it.

[Advertiser 3]

Like, damn. Why she's so much. Meanwhile having a.

[Advertiser 2]

Having a blast. Yeah.

[Advertiser 3]

She goes to bed on time. We cuddle in the morning. Like, yeah, everything's fine.

[Advertiser 2]

Yeah, that's great.

[Advertiser 3]

But you can't do that to a mom. You have to be like, oh, this is tough.

[Advertiser 2]

We don't know how to do it without you. And make her feel like our presence is missed. I'm happy Mar has no idea so much. She has no idea.

[Advertiser 3]

10 days is probably the max, but.

[Advertiser 2]

Yeah, that's when you start saying, yo, so when's your return flight? Need me to pick you up?

[Advertiser 3]

And you know what's crazy? We timed it because I was going to do our week off because of Kia's birthday and Damaris's birthday. Our, like a day apart. So we're taking that week off. Don't worry, everyone. We banked episodes. I was thinking I would have that week off so Kia could do her birthday thing and I would be fine and not have to work. We're tripling down on episodes every goddamn day, and I'm being a single dad. It's been a rough week.

[Advertiser 2]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Advertiser 4]

Your vacation week is not a vacation week.

[Advertiser 2]

She.

[Advertiser 3]

She decided that she wanted to go the week before, and I was like, oh, I told everyone in January that our week off was going to be now. Can't switch it.

[Advertiser 2]

Yeah.

[Advertiser 3]

So, you know, it's fine.

[Advertiser 2]

It's all good.

[Advertiser 3]

My mom's been there.

[Advertiser 2]

Enjoy the time Man, Enjoy the time. Enjoy while it lasts.

[Advertiser 3]

It's.

[Advertiser 2]

Next thing you know, she'll have her own friends and won't be speak to you, walk right past you in the kitchen.

[Advertiser 3]

Listen, my mom has no idea how to work an iPad. The amount of times since we've been recording this week that I've had to go on FaceTime and show my mom how to take off guided access has been. That's been the hardest thing for sure.

[Advertiser 2]

Walking your mom through technology. Yeah. But anyway, meanwhile, Mara knows how to do everything with her iPad.

[Advertiser 3]

How are you?

[Advertiser 2]

I'm great, man, great. Feeling good.

[Advertiser 3]

Okay.

[Advertiser 2]

Getting through the week. It was a busy week for us, but it's been fun, man.

[Advertiser 3]

Still pulling out?

[Advertiser 2]

Oh, yeah. Okay. I'm pull out master. I'm like a. What is. What's hiding the black belt, Brown belt? Is it.

[Advertiser 3]

I don't know if there's anything.

[Advertiser 4]

I think the black is.

[Advertiser 2]

No, it might be something higher than black belt. Platinum belt, purple belt. Whatever it is. I'm sensei.

[Advertiser 3]

No. At the first karate class I went to an elementary school, they gave me a purple belt when I walked.

[Advertiser 2]

No, they don't. They give you a white belt when you walk in.

[Advertiser 3]

Oh, it was white and then yellow. I think I got to yellow.

[Advertiser 2]

Red belt or coral belt.

[Advertiser 3]

See, coral being the.

[Advertiser 2]

I'm definitely coral belt when it comes to pulling out. That's a fact.

[Advertiser 4]

Why are you. But you wear condoms.

[Advertiser 2]

I mean, within a rando. Yeah, if it's somebody that I have, like a history with.

[Advertiser 4]

When's the last time you had sex with a random or you don't sleep with randos?

[Advertiser 2]

Well, I mean, yeah, it's been a while. Try not to sleep with random.

[Advertiser 4]

I don't even talk to randos that sound like.

[Advertiser 2]

Yeah, let alone back out on them. Get out of here, you random. Who are you?

[Advertiser 3]

Who sent you?

[Advertiser 4]

Who are you anyway?

[Advertiser 3]

That's all I was saying. That's all.

[Advertiser 2]

That's what I hear every time I.

[Advertiser 3]

Was like, who are you? But what is my nut doing on your ass? Like, get out of here.

[Advertiser 4]

Speaking of songs, I heard a little. A little snippet, little clip it.

[Advertiser 2]

You ain't hear nothing. What you wish you heard.

[Advertiser 3]

Listen, man, maybe. Maybe I am on the no jumper Vlad side with these Vladdy questions. I still got my stove God verse, despite what we thought was going on. Still got those vocals bars at the Lock Up.

[Advertiser 2]

Shout out the stove, man.

[Advertiser 3]

I mean, I'm gonna hold it down because that's my man. I'm not gonna say nothing. But I. Those vocals came through dope. Yeah, don't. Don't act like you ain't here.

[Advertiser 2]

I did hear it. I mean, but you know, it wasn't mixed, so I can't really talk about it.

[Advertiser 4]

Yeah, not. It wasn't mixed.

[Advertiser 2]

I don't talk about non mixed vocals. That's my thing. Everybody that knows me knows that.

[Advertiser 3]

Everybody.

[Advertiser 2]

Everybody that knows me knows. I don't talk about non mixed vocals. I don't need. Because then it changes when it gets mixed. This line is not there no more.

[Advertiser 4]

That's the number one trash line. Yeah, it ain't mixed yet.

[Advertiser 3]

That was the first.

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When I first met Stove ain't got a trash verse yet at all.

[Advertiser 3]

He went crazy even with the non touch vocals. But that was when I met Maul's mom for the first time. I think it was the Billboard. She. That was the first thing she said to me. She's like, you have to understand about my baby. He does not. With unmixed vocals.

[Advertiser 2]

Not mixed was the first thing.

[Advertiser 3]

And I was like, I already know because his twin sister told me that three years ago. Like, I. I know. Ms. Mall. I know. I know.

[Advertiser 4]

Miss. So disrespectful. I love your mom and your sister. Like, they're like, they're my homies. Like, I met them that day of the Billboard too, and like, been like this ever since then.

[Advertiser 3]

My.

[Advertiser 4]

My peoples.

[Advertiser 2]

Yeah, yeah. That's what's up. I appreciate that. That's crazy what I'm saying. I appreciate it. Appreciate them loving my family.

[Advertiser 3]

No, of course it's all love. I appreciate that. But now you. You gave me the heart on the. The Stove God verse. I was like, all right, cool. It was like four days later.

[Advertiser 2]

It was the next day. It was the next morning.

[Advertiser 4]

The heart is crazy.

[Advertiser 2]

It was the next morning.

[Advertiser 3]

Who ordered food, huh?

[Advertiser 2]

Who has the gall to call here at 9:00?

[Advertiser 3]

All of our listeners, please don't even mark this. We're going to have a full intervention in this fucking office. I get pissed at Benner and Loyon a lot because they know when we record. And I don't understand why you constantly ask me for things when you know I'm recording. Why for the last month, everyone decides to order food when we know we're recording?

[Advertiser 2]

That's not food. That's. You know who that is? That's Post Office. That's Amazon or Mail Guy.

[Advertiser 4]

No, that's Prince Street Pizza. See, to be fair, supposed to be here.

[Advertiser 2]

Oh, okay.

[Advertiser 4]

Yeah, they've been running a little late. We just started.

[Advertiser 2]

Most of the time. It is. It is the mail, though.

[Advertiser 4]

Yeah, usually it's the mail, but we are 11 minutes into recording. They were supposed to be here 11 minutes ago.

[Advertiser 3]

Okay, so my bad, my bad.

[Advertiser 2]

It's all good.

[Advertiser 3]

I'm just trying to lash out.

[Advertiser 4]

Yeah, I see that, like, going on. You said you was happy being a single dad, but it's not giving that.

[Advertiser 3]

Oh, no, I still. I still have resentment.

[Advertiser 4]

Oh, okay, cool.

[Advertiser 2]

It's giving. Frustrated.

[Advertiser 3]

Kia posted a sunset when we were on our third episode, and I was like, man, fuck, she ain't blocked you.

[Advertiser 4]

She should have blocked you.

[Advertiser 3]

You know, that would have been the respectful thing. Yeah.

[Advertiser 4]

You're not going to monitor my vacation and shit?

[Advertiser 1]

Like.

[Advertiser 3]

No, no, I wasn't.

[Advertiser 2]

No.

[Advertiser 3]

Not in that. That type of way. But I would hope she would block me so I wouldn't be like, damn, like, fomo. Yeah, like, what the fuck?

[Advertiser 4]

Fomo.

[Advertiser 2]

Now, don't do that. You can monitor your baby mom's vacation.

[Advertiser 3]

I don't think we got.

[Advertiser 2]

We got to stop acting like that's not, like, a legit thing. You should know what the hell your baby moms is doing on vacation.

[Advertiser 3]

Oh, no, I agree.

[Advertiser 2]

Yeah.

[Advertiser 3]

Wait, you don't think I know?

[Advertiser 2]

No, I'm just saying you should monitor it, though. It's all good.

[Advertiser 3]

No, I put one of those mics that. That we clip up when we do the skits and shit. I placed that in. In her toiletry bag.

[Advertiser 2]

Okay. Yeah, makes sense. Makes sense.

[Advertiser 3]

We are recording an episode. Josh, put that down. We can reheat that. We have an oven here. Let's get back to this shit, y'all.

[Advertiser 4]

We're very silly today. We're very silly today. We've been recording for the past six hours, so. So if just. You have to stay patient with us. Okay. We're gonna be giggling, and I'm feeling.

[Advertiser 3]

Real just hilarious right now. That's all I'm saying. I might. Oh, I might do an IG Live with the same headgear.

[Advertiser 2]

Headgear. She had a scarf on. Yeah, that's not headgear.

[Advertiser 3]

Did she have a scarf on?

[Advertiser 4]

She might if she just had her, like, regular hair done.

[Advertiser 3]

The head tie. Shit.

[Advertiser 4]

Oh, she had a head tie.

[Advertiser 3]

Yeah.

[Advertiser 4]

So how do you guys feel about.

[Advertiser 2]

I love the way Lauryn handled that on air. I hit her up and told her that I fuck with Jessie.

[Advertiser 4]

So I didn't see Lauryn's response. I saw Jess going off, and then I saw what Jess said on air. I didn't see what Lauren said.

[Advertiser 2]

So Jess Eliaris went live the other night, and she expressed some emotions and some feelings about the workplace over at the Breakfast Club and not feeling like, you know, she had the support of her crew, her team, her staff, her co workers, her co hosts. And so she went live about it and, you know, expressed her feelings and then obviously went on air and her and Lauryn and Charlamagne and Envy, I guess, had a conversation on air. Like, you know what? Let's talk about it. And people, for the last few weeks, months, have been kind of noticing or kind of identifying what seems to be a little friction, a little tiffed between Lauren and Jess.

[Advertiser 3]

So Jess referred her. No.

[Advertiser 1]

Yes.

[Advertiser 2]

Well, yes.

[Advertiser 4]

Jess picked her to be. So let's. Yeah, let's backtrack a little bit. Jess went on maternity leave. She's the third host on a Breakfast Club. She went on maternity leave. And she picked Lauren to fill in for her while on maternity leave. Apparently, when Jess came back, it was kind of a thing where Lauren was still kind of doing her segment with her when it was like, okay, you were supposed to be kind of like my substitute, you know, not in a disrespectful way, but you were supposed to be filling for. For me, I'm back here. Why are you still here? And then doing my segment. So Jess thing was, you know, this can now be your segment. We're just not going to call it. Sorry, we're just not going to call it just with the mess, because this is kind of you doing something else. Something a little bit more journalistic, like, this is your segment, and I'll take my name off of it. And then just. Just also understandable. Yeah, understandable. Just also expressed that she felt like the boys weren't really being very clear on which. Where she stood or where Lauren stood or what was going on. It was just very confusing. She referred to it, quote, unquote. She said it ran like a high school. And she just said she wasn't really comfortable with the way things were going. And she was like, you know, at first, I didn't really like Lauren. She's like, I came back and I'm honest, I didn't like her. I didn't like the way shit was going. And she said, oh, I realize it's not Lauren. The issue is not with her. It's y'all. Y'all. And everybody behind the scenes is the issue.

[Advertiser 3]

I think that's unfair. Watch out, hot takes. Someone's about to defend DJ Envy and Charlemagne. We saw when they were trying to Replace Angela Yee. When she went to afternoons, Charlamagne got on air when everyone was like, who's gonna be the replacement? Remember, they were doing different mics and whatever and everyone's like, yo, Jess makes the most sense here. You guys have the best chemistry. Charlamagne came on, there was like, I thought it was her. I don't make this fucking decision, bro. I'm in the same. I'm in the dark, just like the listeners. I have no idea what's going on. So why would that even fall on Envy in Charlemagne when they don't make the decisions there? Like, if a girl comes in and the ratings seem to be going up for that segment while that was Jess's shit. Why are you looking at Envy and Charlemagne? They don't make those decisions. They might not, admittedly they say they don't.

[Advertiser 4]

Okay, but they might not make those decisions. And I'm not aware of how their shit is random.

[Advertiser 3]

I'm going off what they.

[Advertiser 4]

Yes, but they might not make those decisions.

[Advertiser 3]

So it's corporate as fuck.

[Advertiser 4]

But they have been there for so long, they know that that show lives and dies on them. Right? So you have power and you have influence. I need you to stand up for me. And I think that was just as issue.

[Advertiser 3]

I'm again defending Charlamagne at Envy. It's going to sound like, I'm not. I'm not on my dame dash. You guys aren't owners. I'm not on that. Charlemagne told us that he does not have that power. He went on air when they were trying to find that third co host and said, I don't know what's going on either. They don't even talk to me. So why. Why would you look at someone that is admitted? They have nothing to do with this. I'm hired talent, just like you.

[Advertiser 2]

Well, whatever's going on, it obviously is some type of tension up there. And Jess and Lauren had, you know, a conversation on air. I thought the way Lauren handled it was very professional. I thought the way Jess handled it was professional, but more emotional as well. But understandably, I understand Jess's frustration and I think a lot of things that. Well, sometimes people don't factor in. You know, when a woman has a child, she has a baby, you know, that can be damaging. It's fucked up to say, but to her career, whatever she's doing. Yeah, she's a completely different person. Physically, mentally, spiritually, who you telling? And unfortunately. Right, and unfortunately, it, you know, it can affect things. So I understand where Jess frustrations are Coming from, because, you know, it's a lot of things she's probably not expressing in the workplace. A lot of things she's dealing with just as a, you know, as a mom now and, you know, just having a child and having to leave work and then come back and kind of find her footing and, you know, and still dealing with, you know, just physically being in a different state now. So I understand the frustration, but I do respect the way Lauren handled it because, you know, Lauren is trying to keep it strictly professional as possible. You know, trying to keep it as, you know, clean and saying, you know, I'll produce. Y'all are the talent. And I do think a big part of it and something that Charlamagne spoke to was, you know, not letting the Internet and things that are being said online fuel any of these emotions or fuel any tension in this room. Because, you know, that's just. It's stupid if we know we all fuck with each other and we rock with each other in here. You know, we gotta kinda. It's tough, but you gotta kinda block out the noise of the Internet at times when it comes to certain things.

[Advertiser 3]

But I think have you questioning shit about your own co host, like, damn, maybe that is the case. It's not the case because these people are from the outside looking in. I mean, have no idea what happens when we're here. Off my.

[Advertiser 2]

And then with just, you know, at home reading comics and, you know, and then going in the workplace and kind of looking at things a little differently now because she's reading comments, you're like, oh, yeah, it does feel like, you know, I'm being phased out or pushed out. And again, you know, you talking about somebody that just had a child, had a baby, and, you know, it's kind of tough to get back in that zone because again, you're a completely different woman now. You know what I mean? Like, you just. You're going. You're feeling things differently, you know, you're. You're receiving things differently emotionally. You're all over the place. So it's, you know, it's tough. And we want to give grace and respect to Jess in that regard, but I see.

[Advertiser 4]

Because that's a slippery slope and because I don't want. Because that's a stereotype that gets put on women a lot. Yes, you do change when you have a baby and all of those things, but I don't want to make it seem like, even if that's not what you're not doing, I don't even want it to sound like, we're making it seem like just because Jess had a baby because she's a woman and she had a baby, that she's being overly emotional. I don't want to make it seem like that at all.

[Advertiser 3]

Even though there is. Obviously, women become mentally and physically different after a baby. That's science. No, I don't think Maul's saying she's being overly emotional.

[Advertiser 4]

Not overly emotional, but like, there's no reason for her, like, oh, you know, you have a baby, you change and your emotions are different. No, no, no. Even if she didn't have a baby and this happened to her, if she went out sick and broke her leg and came back, she might feel the same exact way, let's say.

[Advertiser 2]

But the fact that she was away from work due to her, you know, having a child and having to be out for maternal leave, she was gone. So they had to kind of fill that spot. And in that and in her absence, Lauren saw an opportunity to kind of grow her name, grow her value on the platform, and has been doing a great job. But what Lawrence Stanton says, like, I'm not trying to be, like, I'm not trying to push you out. Like, I just stepped up in your absence because that's what was called for my job here. Like, but now that you're back, I want it to coexist and I want us to keep building on what we've been building here. Like, so I understand Lawrence part and I understand Jeff's part, but at the same time, I do feel like, like Charlamagne said, some of the energy may be fueled by the Internet and things that people say. Oh, I see. I think a lot of people comments and things like, because when Jess told Lauren to shut up, when she was like over talking her or something, or she told her to be quiet on air, people was like, yo, how you telling somebody? You know what I'm saying? Like, what type of. And then that turns into, let's pit the black women against each other. This, that, that whole type of bullshit. And sometimes people feed into that based on shit that they're already feeling in the workplace. And they might feel like they tripping. But then when an outside voice says something, it's like, see, I knew I wasn't bugging you see what I'm saying? So it's like a lot of that mixed in there too. But the bottom line is I think that they can coexist. They should coexist. I think that Lauren has been doing a great job. I think Jess has been doing a Great job while she's up there. So I understand things happen. But again, speaking on what we saw yesterday on a Breakfast Club, I felt that Lauren handled that very professionally.

[Advertiser 3]

It's one of those situations that's annoying, and I feel for them because everybody is right.

[Advertiser 2]

Yeah.

[Advertiser 3]

Let's say. Let's take the baby shit out of it. Let's say. Let's say Jess had a sick family member and needed to leave. Jess did the right thing. She got somebody that she felt was talented, wouldn't compromise the show. She cares about the show. I'm gonna put someone in my place that I know is gonna carry this. We're not gonna lose ratings. I trust this person to fill in for me at that time. And then Lauren, being talented, did what the fuck she was supposed to do. Show up and make sure this show keeps fucking moving and deliver the best way she knows how. It worked out even better. But when Jess comes back is like, yo, I had to go do this. I gave you somebody I knew was not gonna compromise the show. I feel like I should also be taken care of. Even though she smoked this, like, yeah. If. If I heart maybe hired her, I could understand more of the mess. I'm more empathetic to the mess because Jess did what she was supposed to do. I'm taking maternity leave. Here's somebody that I know is going to make sure y'all all right.

[Advertiser 2]

Yeah. And I think Jess's feelings are valid.

[Advertiser 3]

Lauren is. She's supposed to do that.

[Advertiser 1]

Yeah.

[Advertiser 3]

I have this opportunity that Jess gave me. What I must. I'm supposed to suck.

[Advertiser 2]

Yeah.

[Advertiser 3]

Like, you want me to come up and show up and just not deliver.

[Advertiser 2]

Yeah.

[Advertiser 3]

But when I come back as Jess. Yeah. I still need to figure out what this is. Even though she's smoking shit. Cool. We need to figure out what's going on here, because I did this for y'all.

[Advertiser 4]

But that's where being comfortable in your workspace comes in, and being confident in the people you work with and work for, because she should have in no way came back and questioned any. Anything about her space there that should have never been. She shouldn't get no weird vibes. She shouldn't get nowhere feeling. So being in that type of workspace, granted, I don't. You know, I would have never went on live and operated like that. But that's the way that Jess is. You know, that's how she gets her frustrations out or however she talks. That's whatever. Like, me personally, I'm not gonna go talk about my bosses on Live. But, I mean, sometimes you get. You get frustrated, and it's like, no, I want my side of this story to be out. So even though I don't agree with it, I can understand it, but people need to commun a little bit better. And this is why sometimes it's. You do have to be the angry black woman stereotype. Because sometimes you gotta walk in and be like, all right, what the is going on? Like, what's going on with this? What's the plan for this? How is this being produced so that I can decide whether I want to stay here or not? Because if y'all are trying to phase me out so that you can get rid of me or so that I'm so uncomfortable, I quit. Let me know that now. You know, I'm quick to come. What's up? What's going on? Because I don't. I don't like that. I don't like that. That being unsure. And I feel like that's where she's at, where she doesn't.

[Advertiser 3]

She doesn't like that feeling that's in not podcasting, just. Not even just corporate, like, jobs, period. There's plenty of times where people are passive aggressive and just hope somebody quits because it gets uncomfortable like that. That's a thing that happens everywhere. So I give Jess. I don't think she was being the angry black woman stereotype. I do get that part of, like, I need clarity here. And unfortunately, the times we live in. Yeah, it could look crazy that you did the IG Live thing, but what's another way at this point. Yeah. When it comes to this genre, because.

[Advertiser 4]

If I've talked to them about it and nothing's getting cleared up, because see, now guess what? She did that IG Live thing, and now they're talking about it. Now shit is getting cleared.

[Advertiser 3]

As my father used to say, the squeaky wheel gets the grease. Like, that's.

[Advertiser 4]

Oh.

[Advertiser 3]

So I. I. Even though I'm on the side of, like, not being the IG Live exposed, internal shit, that's not my world. I do understand it. Especially when you're dealing with a company like iHeart, like, yeah, we can do this internal. But if I'm not getting answers. And again, I don't know if this case.

[Advertiser 4]

Yeah.

[Advertiser 3]

If I'm not getting answers, the only way iheart is gonna listen to me is if I do something public and it compromises what the brand could be. So even though we could say Jess is wrong for doing that in that environment. Is she? Yeah, that's where I'm empathetic to everyone here because I think everyone did what they were supposed to do. I think Lauren is right. I think Jess is right. I think Charlemagne and Envy Hot take are happy. Finally some gossip for this show. Finally I can sit back and not have to get like again. I think they took as they should have a crazy bag and stayed there. I probably would have done the exact same thing. I got kids. Whatever. Oh, this is the bag I have to take to be here for three hours in the morning. Bet overcharged of what they did to Cold Crush. I'm glad they got their bags, but I think they both checked out from that show. Now we have a whole mix of online and it has nothing to do with me. And I could just sit here like this after Charlemagne took all the heat for everybody for a decade on that show. Hell yeah. I think Envy and Charlemagne are talking to each other behind the scenes. Like, thank God everyone's talking about the Breakfast Club and we don't have to do a thing.

[Advertiser 4]

Yeah, yeah, that's.

[Advertiser 3]

And Angela Yee, too. I think the three of them, this might bring them all back together for some LOLs. Because Angelique put out, I just spoke.

[Advertiser 2]

To that just said there's no way that Angela Yee, she put out a skit. She said, I don't know how she dealt with this for 13 years. Like Jespo, you know, she said she's obviously the workplace she feel like is not healthy, whether it be for women or healthy in general. But she did speak to the fact, you know, that she can't, you know, she doesn't understand how Angela Yee dealt with that for so many years. She understands why she left. She even spoke about why she's missed a couple episodes and took gigs, you know, for comedy and things like that. So, I mean, you know, I don't know what this means for Jess. Obviously, she's talented and whatever she decides to do, she'll be just fine. Um, but, you know, I, I, I do see a world in where Jess is not on the show much longer.

[Advertiser 3]

I mean, I saw everyone saying she was going to be fired, and then she ended up there the next morning.

[Advertiser 2]

Yeah, I don't know.

[Advertiser 3]

I think, I think Jess leaves before she's fired.

[Advertiser 2]

I do too.

[Advertiser 3]

I don't think, I don't think she's.

[Advertiser 2]

Gonna allow them to fire her. I think she's gonna leave on her own, you know, her own accord and do it on her own terms, but.

[Advertiser 3]

Which I think she made, even though people think she made the wrong choices. I think she made the right choices where she won't be fired. She'll leave.

[Advertiser 2]

Yeah, I think.

[Advertiser 3]

I know I can't fire her. I think, yeah, I think God gave you the replacement. What the fuck are we talking about right now?

[Advertiser 2]

I think. But I do, I do. You know, sometimes when people say things and, you know, she even said it, she was like, you know, when am I ever quiet about things? Like, everybody know I got a big ass mouth. So she was like, so when you see me being quiet, just know, like, she's at that point where she's just taking everything, collecting all the info she needs, and, you know, obviously planning whatever strategy and route to whatever it is she wants to do. I don't want to see her leave, but I do. And listening to her speak and hearing the things she's saying, I think she's at a point of, you know, probably like, I think I'm kind of over this. I was fine before the Breakfast Club. I'll be fine after. Maybe this is more time for her to spend with her, you know, her family and things like that. So, you know, I mean, people just have these things they go through. But, you know, I don't want to see anybody try to pit Lauren and Jess, you know, against each other and make it a thing. And, you know, Lauren doesn't like Jess. Jess doesn't like Lauryn. That shit is, you know, it's just stupid.

[Advertiser 4]

So they do it. It's so crazy. They do it so much with women in media. They do it to us women podcasters. Like, I hate the term women podcasters do it to each other too, though, sometimes. But I don't like when it's the yo, who's the best female podcaster? Because I don't see people comparing all of y'all. It's 100 male podcasts. They compare. They said, no, no, no. As a show. Listen to what I'm saying. As a show. It's a fucking bracket every Monday.

[Advertiser 2]

Bracket Mondays.

[Advertiser 3]

I know what you're saying. You just said it wrong.

[Advertiser 4]

As a show. Y'all shows get compared all the time.

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Individually.

[Advertiser 4]

The show, yes, y'all get compare individual. But it's who's the best women did a draft. Who's the best women podcasters, right? We don't get compared to the men.

[Advertiser 3]

We.

[Advertiser 4]

It's like. It's like there's. That's not possible. You can only get compared to the women. And it's always, well, Trump, one of the moment, one of us says something is always replace her with this Other Woman podcast.

[Advertiser 3]

I know. I know what you're saying.

[Advertiser 4]

I think that that's really. They do it with all the women in media. And I think that that's really, like, corny, even, like, with the fans pitting them against each other. They do two completely different things. They're two completely different people. And to be honest, the Breakfast Club needs both of them.

[Advertiser 1]

I.

[Advertiser 3]

They just completely.

[Advertiser 4]

They just need to produce around it so that both of them shine.

[Advertiser 3]

That's why I also think Envy and Charlemagne are happy. Like, oh, these two could carry this whole thing. We could just shut the fuck up and continue on.

[Advertiser 4]

But yeah, yeah, they're. They're honestly, they're very, like, intriguing, both of them.

[Advertiser 3]

Yeah, they're both talented.

[Advertiser 4]

But yeah, the pitting of the one is better than the other. And one is that they have to date to offer two completely different things.

[Advertiser 3]

You're not wrong. But I do think in this weird bubble of a genre that we're in, that does happen across the board, I think the critiques are a little nastier and weirder with women, but I do think the comparison happens now. Them having a conversation with each other on air, that is unfair and sexist to me of how judge never done. Like, if, If. If I yell at a man in a conversation, it's not going to look at. It's not going to look the same way. The way people have been reacting to them going back and forth, like having somewhat not healthy discourse, but airing out their issues with each other. Yeah, it's viewed differently, I'll give you that. But we are judged amongst each other. Every word we say, every vow. It's unfair when women go against women. But I think this genre is equally up, which I maybe is beautiful, but also annoying.

[Advertiser 2]

I love gets the people going. So provocative.

[Advertiser 3]

How did you feel about Angela Yee's skip?

[Advertiser 2]

I didn't see it.

[Advertiser 3]

Okay.

[Advertiser 2]

I didn't see it.

[Advertiser 3]

All right. Not my type of comedy.

[Advertiser 2]

Pull it up, Josh.

[Advertiser 3]

But it definitely made me laugh. I love when people get their lick back of how they've been abused in certain situations in such a calm way. Because Angela Yee probably woke up that day at the time that the Breakfast Club ended. She showed up with fresh eyes, no bags, no nothing. She got a good night's sleep because she had to be up at 5am, has her own show, and got to make fun of the bullshit that she was a part of for so long. Even if I didn't like the sketch, I loved what it represent for Angela. Cause I know she felt Good. Like, this is what I've been saying.

[Advertiser 2]

Yeah.

[Advertiser 3]

And I'm not accusing anyone specifically at anything. I wasn't there. I just know what it's like to be in a situation that you don't want to be in, and then you see some bullshit and you show up at 1pm Instead of 5am Good night, rest. No, no black shit under your eyes. And just laugh and go. That's. That's what happened this morning. I didn't even know because I was still asleep. Because I'm doing what I want to do right now.

[Advertiser 4]

I'm at peace.

[Advertiser 2]

I'm at peace.

[Advertiser 3]

That's what happened. That's crazy. That happened down the hall.

[Advertiser 2]

Yeah.

[Advertiser 3]

But they. Ben left.

[Advertiser 2]

That's what they doing over there. Well, hopefully, you know, this doesn't mean the end for Jess at the Breakfast Club, but I do think that.

[Advertiser 3]

I mean, even if it is. And that's what Jess wants to do.

[Advertiser 2]

Yeah. Jess.

[Advertiser 3]

Hilarious before the Breakfast Club. She'll be just hilarious after the Breakfast Club.

[Advertiser 2]

That's fine. Yeah.

[Advertiser 3]

And you know what's funny? I feel her, too. And we can close this, because I know we've been going on for a while. She was explaining that she grew up on the Breakfast Club. Not to say I grew up on it, but I was a sophomore in college when it started. Like, I sort of grew up on it, too. It has an affection from my heart. And that was a big thing for her. She's like, this was a show I idolized my whole life and got on it. Don't meet your heroes. There's a lot of shit that I wanted to do my whole fucking life. And then got a whiff of it and was like, nah, I'd be better off not. I'm cool. This isn't what I wanted.

[Advertiser 2]

Yeah.

[Advertiser 3]

It would have been so cool to be part of Hot Nights. Like, nah, I see what's going on. I'm cool.

[Advertiser 2]

Little picky heroes wisely.

[Advertiser 3]

Or realize that your heroes and situations and publications and media outlets was great to watch. As a fan, I don't know if that's something you want to be a.

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Part of, like, or just know you're here.

[Advertiser 3]

The other side of the camera is the entertainment. It's not entertaining on that side.

[Advertiser 2]

Yeah.

[Advertiser 4]

Like, you talking preach. Talk to them.

[Advertiser 3]

I felt just when she was saying that, because I thought if we. Even when we were early podcasting and it was starting to catch a wave and radio stations were reaching out, like, yo, I see what you guys are doing. We're trying to shake Shit up. We got a Philly offer one time. There was a hot 97 offer to me at one point too. And I was like, if you would have asked me at 12 years old, the biggest. Wait, I get to be on Hot 97? Are you crazy? That would have been the. The dream. But now, when I was that, even at that age, being young and naive, I could already see that's not the Hot 97 that I know as a listener. Yeah, this is a whole different monster. I'd rather keep that legacy and that fandom in my head for that brand. I'm staying far away from it.

[Advertiser 2]

Yeah, I agree.

[Advertiser 3]

I'd rather try to compete with that brand and do my own than try to be part of something that I idolized at one point. But, you know, sorry, did I take it? Did I take it down?

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You know, it's the 60s in me.

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And I didn't hear none of it yet. I didn't listen to any of it. I told y'all before that I was kind of on the fence about this whole AI Kanye. And I don't know, but P seems to.

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I don't. I think Kanye may have painted himself in a dangerous position of as much as people have raised you up and propped you up to be this musical genius that you are, I think he's going to find out that people find and support other musical geniuses just as fast and they'll stop supporting you. So, you know, Kanye is, you know, we can't take nothing away from his ability to create. He's one of the greatest creators we probably ever had. Not just music, just anything he touches. He seems to, you know, make some. Something good, something great. But the way he's been, you know, performing online and on Twitter the last few days and the things that he's been saying, a lot of it, if not all of it is very self centered. A lot of it is because, you know, somebody didn't, somebody didn't help me, you know, when people were trying to take my kids from me and you know, it always comes back to Something that they didn't do for Kanye. And, you know, I think there's a way to express that without saying the things he's been saying. I think there's a way to express that without him, you know, just spewing the type of energy he's been spewing. Kanye is very intelligent. I think everything he does is. I've been saying it for years. He only does this when he's trying to sell something. And here comes the Bully album.

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I kind of think the opposite now. I agreed. Yes. At one point, Kanye did his manic episodes during albums to go sell something, he would do that. He would put out shoes or whatever. Even his manic shit when he dropped the swastika T shirt, knowing that that probably wasn't really going to sell anything. Super bowl commercial. This is all a different level of ego and insecurity that he now has. One of my idols. At one point, I'm looking at like, you need to go fucking heal. And I know that sounds super cliche and corny therapy shit, but we saw it when he admitted that Drake made him nervous. And I'm not. I don't want to make this a Drake thing, but it was the first time we realized that Kanye wasn't this superhuman confident person that we once really thought he was. I mean, I know all falls down. We know he's been very vulnerable in his music, but we always love Kanye for his confidence and his ability. And then Drake shows up and he admits in interviews, like, I thought I was gonna be number one forever. And then this guy showed up between shitting on Cardi, shitting on Tyler, all of his kids he's now shitting on because he's starting to realize that even his music isn't going to keep him as relevant as he once was. He doesn't give a fuck about money. He doesn't need to. He only cares about everyone thinking he is the best. Not realizing that if you shut the fuck up and make amazing music, we'd say that.

[Advertiser 4]

Yeah.

[Advertiser 3]

And he's shitting all over Carti because, yes, Cardi is one of his kids. Tyler has. That's one of his kids. All of us are Kanye babies from my generation that he. I used to love that he would pump up before anyone else. Like, he was on the odd future shit when it wasn't cool to be that. Like, Kanye used to be that guy that was so confident that, I want to uprise these kids because I see myself in them. Now he's shitting on everybody because they're Hotter than him thinking that, oh, I have to crash out all the way just to be trending on Twitter. I have to say insane things about people that have done nothing but good for me and talk about their kids to remain relevant instead of making good music to remain relevant, just say you can't make the music you did at one point.

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That's really true.

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Just.

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Just say that Cardi scares you because all the kids love Carti and he's making music in 2025 that we care about more than you. And this is coming from a Kanye. Stan. Say that Tyler did something last year that no other artist has ever done and is going on a crazy stadium run right now. Say that's why you hate him. Not because he doesn't have a memorable verse. Don' Even do that. That's. Sorry. Not sorry. I could wrap that right now on Mike. To say Tyler doesn't have memorable verses is insane. So forget all the. The anti semitic. The Shitty said about JMB's kids that we already. We don't need to address that. We're just giving in to what he wants by addressing it for attention. I'm talking about the music side. You're hating on artists that you once championed because you now know we care more about them. And all you had to do was make the music we know you can make.

[Advertiser 2]

Yeah. I mean, you know, and we would.

[Advertiser 3]

We'd still be here. And I. There's great on Bully.

[Advertiser 2]

Oh, no.

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It's rooted. And the AI. It's just rooted in. In.

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You just don't care about it. You don't care about it. And that's. You know, and that's the point that you get to at, you know, we'll. We'll pray for you and we'll wish the best for.

[Advertiser 3]

No, it's okay to say fuck him and not. Not pray for him, but it's fine to say that now.

[Advertiser 2]

Now that's where I think people are at. People are at the. You know what? Fuck you. We don't care about your music. We don't care about your clothes. We don't care about none of that shit. We. We can wear other designers. We can listen to other artists. Like, and I think that's, you know, people don't realize, like, at the end of the day, Kanye, you're just making clothes and music.

[Advertiser 3]

And I loved your stances before when you were saying fuck certain people and companies when that was inspiring. That was the dame dashing you. That was a lot of shit that I loved. Now you're just going after personal shit that, like, peace. What's the record that we love? Beauty and the Beast. Incredible. It just doesn't hit. Because I don't think Kanye realizes why we loved his music so much, is that it hit us in the soul because of who he was as well. Kanye is not the greatest rapper, per se. Rhyming words, his delivery, who he is as a person made you feel those words. So now when you see him do this bullshit on the Internet, that's where the separation comes from. Do I think it's corny that he said that shit about JB's kids? Of course, it also affects the music in that way, too. Of like, I don't even believe you anymore.

[Advertiser 2]

Yeah, that's the part. That's the point.

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I don't believe anything you're saying because you're going against everything you stood for before thinking that you're going with what you used to say.

[Advertiser 2]

Yeah.

[Advertiser 3]

And it's not that you make it personal. Go after every. With you. I love it.

[Advertiser 2]

Yeah.

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But now you just like, what the fuck? Cardi? Tyler. Like, you think Tyler's gonna get your kids back.

[Advertiser 2]

Yeah. I mean, that's. To me, that's where it feels like Kanye landed with this. This latest rant is he's on the side where everybody is just kind of like, completely done with him, you know, Completely closing doors. They said that he had. Kim, I think, went and picked up north because she heard that. That Andrew Tate and his brother were on his way to meet up with Kanye, and she didn't want, obviously, north around them again, man. Kanye gotta humble yourself. You're only making music and clothes. We can wear a lot of other designers and we can listen to a lot of other artists. I promise you.

[Advertiser 3]

And listen, I'm sure he's gonna go on this week and interview with whoever and say, I'm doing all this so I could separate all the people that don't really love me. And in theory, that sounds like a cool thing to say.

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No.

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Everything you're doing. No, but at the expense you don't.

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Say the things you care for.

[Advertiser 3]

I'm not offended, but I could imagine the people you're talking about that have actually cared for you are offended. So at what cost is this really go like. I don't think Kanye cares if he loses me the fan at all. And he shouldn't.

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Yeah, but it's not.

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It's not even about doing this for.

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It's. It's. You have. You have children who are of age now. You have. You have. You Know, you have people looking at you in a way now where it's like, you know, they're just questioning, like, everything about you at this point. Like, yo, what's. What's really wrong with this dude? You know what I mean? And again, you start talking about your kids being able to read things online and understand and comprehend things the older they get. You know, you risk putting yourself in a position as a father to where your kids now view you differently and start to, like, put distance in between themselves and you because of, you know, the things you're saying online and, you know, the hurtful things you're saying and they can comprehend when you know things are wrong and things you shouldn't be saying are, you know, coming out of your mouth. So, again, man, I think he's gonna. He's gonna have to deal with a very hard reality after this one of how fast people, and quickly people can and will move on.

[Advertiser 3]

Yeah.

[Advertiser 2]

To something in somebody else.

[Advertiser 3]

And he doesn't have to care. It's his life. So this is just podcast. No, no.

[Advertiser 2]

One thing we know is he cares.

[Advertiser 3]

I mean, that's what I'm starting to realize.

[Advertiser 2]

This entire rant is based on. I can't. This entire.

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I want everyone to focus on me.

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Even if it's for, look at me.

[Advertiser 3]

I need the attention. No matter what, I'm hurt.

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This level of victim mentality is insane. And it is.

[Advertiser 3]

It just sucks because, like, the amount of things I used to, like, really agree with him on and idolize him for. You watch Old Dad's the Bill Burr Shit, which wasn't our favorite movie, but do you remember the scene when he gets kicked out of his house and is staying in a motel, and he's smoking a cigar in the motel, and the guy walks out and is like, yo, you can't smoke that. But he's smoking a vape. And Bill Burr gets into arguing with him, and there's a woman across the hall that agrees with Bill Burr. He's like, see, she agrees with me. And then she starts going on a rant about how she hates, like, black people and all this shit, and he's like, wait, wait, I don't agree. Yes, agree with. I take back that. I agree with anything that you ever said.

[Advertiser 2]

Yeah.

[Advertiser 3]

Now. Now we're connected to somebody that has said insane things that I used to idolize, which sucks.

[Advertiser 2]

Yeah.

[Advertiser 3]

But, you know, I don't know. There's other music out there. I'll be fine.

[Advertiser 2]

We'll be more than fine. I promise you that.

[Advertiser 3]

And also, I I don't know. Who cares that. I mean, who cares?

[Advertiser 2]

I definitely don't. Y'all know. I don't give a. So it is what it is.

[Advertiser 3]

Do we want to quickly get into any of this. This that we keep alluding to with the rolling sixties and no jumper.

[Advertiser 2]

Brick, baby, I didn't really.

[Advertiser 3]

Big.

[Advertiser 1]

You.

[Advertiser 3]

I mean, I. I read everything.

[Advertiser 2]

Yeah, I didn't really care to talk about it, only because that's. That's not our platform. I really don't. You know, I don't. If I don't talk about you when things are good, I don't want to talk about you when things are bad. I'm that type of person. But obviously, this is something big in our culture. Obviously, for me, you know, with the family and friends that I have in California, I'm a little more versed on this than most people probably would think. But it is unfortunate because I think that we're gonna find out exactly how much things are connected that we don't realize and a lot of unfortunate events that take place in this type of culture that we probably didn't really care to pay attention to. But either way, it goes. The rolling sixties in la leader or one of the leaders, if that's what they're labeling him. Big U has been hit with a rico along with Brick Baby, Loose cannon guys from the no Jumper platform. They were arrested. Big I believe Big U has recently turned himself in probably by the time you're hearing this. But I don't know, man, it's gonna get bad before it gets any better. Because if it's one thing we know about a RICO case is everybody ain't holding it down. Somebody gonna start talking, and somebody gonna start talking and giving up information, then that means somebody else gonna have to give information. And it's gonna be a lot of information, a lot of things that come out that I think is gonna be very painful to hear. I think a lot of people are gonna hear things that is gonna literally shake them to their core, shock them. Things that I don't know if we're ready to hear. But either way, you know, this is what happens. This is a product of, you know, people sitting down on platforms and speaking about things that are, one, illegal, and two, you shouldn't share publicly. If this is the type of lifestyle in the type of world that you're entrenched in, this is another case of watch what you say. Because as much as y'all want to act like it's not happening, Feds are listening. They're Watching these podcasts, they're bored. They're looking at it on YouTube.

[Advertiser 3]

That's what I don't think.

[Advertiser 2]

A lot of these cases that are unsolved, they're going to piece it together. I don't care what type of code you try to talk in, that shit does not work. We've seen countless ricos in the last however many years in hip hop in our culture, and it's not gonna stop. This is just another of the latest RICO to come down. And again, I do think that, you know, a lot of the shit that's gonna come out behind this is gonna be very painful.

[Advertiser 3]

Everything. When people come on podcasts and loosely talk about certain things like, nah, that could never hold up in court or whatever. I don't think people realize that the feds and cops are bored. I'm sure there's another RICO in South Los Angeles that would be way crazier than Rolling 60s, but there's one that would be more famous and get more headlines and get me a promotion, because it'll be in headlines, something I do at the end of the year and talk about and say, I put these people that people knew in jail. So, no, you may not be saying incriminating things on a podcast, but you are bringing up your fame to what could be a rico. Because police sit in their fucking cubicles like everybody else and be on Facebook, be on YouTube. They watch the same shit we watch as fans, not even as investigators. Yeah, you're just playing with bored cops, and bored cops don't have rules. I'm not here to shit on Adam22, or say this was an Adam thing or Adam works for the Feds. I'm not on that type of time. Adam, be careful. Because if you think the feds ever need logic in a RICO case as far as money being funneled and what that money went to, even though you didn't even know where the money was going. Don't act like you can't get brought up in this either. I don't think Adam did anything. But do you think the Feds care? You think they play by the same.

[Advertiser 2]

Rules we play a lot of times.

[Advertiser 3]

You can find any wired money, and that money that was wired there was used to do something that was sent to somebody. You get caught, caught up in this in a heartbeat. And just happened at your. Your compound recently with the people that were arrested.

[Advertiser 2]

Yeah.

[Advertiser 3]

So, Adam, I see you joking on the Internet, and I swear I'm not one of these people that are sitting here like you and Vlad, like Indict people. I don't think you had anything to do with this. But the fact that you're arrogant and think you can't get caught up in this is insane. No, you didn't do anything wrong. When has that mattered to the feds?

[Advertiser 2]

And in a rico, your money funnels through people like.

[Advertiser 3]

What are you talking about?

[Advertiser 2]

Yeah, in a rico, it doesn't have to be anything violent. Physically. No. Just like you said, Money, a wire sent here for an interview, anything.

[Advertiser 3]

Even if you had nothing to do with it.

[Advertiser 2]

Yeah, it's. They'll tie.

[Advertiser 3]

When did that matter?

[Advertiser 2]

Yeah, they'll toss it together. So again, man, you know, we just have to wait and see.

[Advertiser 3]

Your brother went through it. Had nothing to do with the case whatsoever.

[Advertiser 2]

That's a fact. Yeah, well, we gonna have to wait and see what happens. It's. It's gonna be. It's gonna. A lot is going. Because the one thing I'll tell you, you thought niggas was talking before when they get them in them rooms and they turn that little hot light bulb on and they start telling you how much years y'all facing. Ooh wee. That's the. That's the no jumper that Adam want. He wants them interviews. That's the interviews he want.

[Advertiser 3]

No matter what I think Adam is going to be called. He's going to get a subpoena. Not even if it's criminal. Like, yeah, we need to see your financial records. That's going to happen no matter what.

[Advertiser 2]

Yeah.

[Advertiser 3]

And Adam understand rightfully. So you think Adam is going to.

[Advertiser 2]

Be like, nah, nah, come on, he has to. He's definitely.

[Advertiser 3]

I'm not fault if he said no. Here you go. I would do the same thing.

[Advertiser 2]

Absolutely.

[Advertiser 3]

Yeah, that light's gonna be on him as well. Give me all your financial records.

[Advertiser 2]

I just employ. I just. I just. I just hope that, you know, anybody that's involved in any type of criminal dealings of any level, just stay off of these podcasts, stay away from these microphones, stay away from these cameras if that's the life that you living. Because I promise you, I don't care how slick you trying to talk and you feel like you're not giving up information. You are. They're gonna piece it together, they're gonna tie it all together, and they're gonna bring everybody in a room separately and tell you you're facing 40 years. What do you wanna do? You wanna play ball or you wanna go sit in that cell?

[Advertiser 4]

So just to clarify. Cause I'm not up on the latest gang Gossip. This RICO is happening because of some stuff that was said on podcasts.

[Advertiser 3]

There was a specific point with Lou Scannon telling a story that was in the paperwork. A all of their phones were tapped. Like, it wasn't. They didn't do this indictment because of no Jumper. But of course, no Jumper was in the paperwork because there was a specific case that they were investigating that was talked about in detail in a no Jumper interview. And, you know, Loose and Brick Baby, who are great on no Jumper, are on there often. And I'm not saying they always incriminate themselves, but you're also admitting you're an active member and not to say that's a crime, but when you're saying that, you're just putting more light on that.

[Advertiser 4]

Well, being an active gang member is a crime.

[Advertiser 3]

So, yes, you have to prove what active means. But, you know, yeah, of course, these cops are young. They're fans of the same. We're fans of, like, yeah, they're watching all of these YouTube videos the same way we are. And of course, they would love to. To investigate. Oh, you talked slightly about a crime, and I have an informant from the same neighborhood that could. You just gave me a tip whether you knew it or not. Yeah, now I can investigate some shit I don't even know about. Yeah, you didn't say anything that was criminal on there. You worded it the best way you could. But now I even have it in my brain to go talk to one of my informants, like, yo, you know what he's talking about? And they go, oh, yeah, of course I know what he's talking about. I didn't know you wanted to know about that. Yeah.

[Advertiser 4]

Oh, damn. I thought you never ask.

[Advertiser 3]

And even. And I promise we'll close and get to the funniest, because we have a great guest after this. Another Adam thing. I've worked and paid a lot of people in the street for legal things before. You rarely pay their account. I've Cash App sisters. I've Cash App friends. I've Cash app. I've sent money to people I've worked with that are from the street and don't have an account for a reason. I can almost guarantee Adam, with the volume of people he has from the street in there, especially when they first started, that he wasn't sending some 1099 to anybody that could get caught up in a second with, who you sending money to. Yo, send it to my man. He has an account. Yo, send it to him. I'll do this interview, but you got to send it to him. You don't know what that guy's account is doing or what his. His input. Output is. Now you're attached to that.

[Advertiser 4]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Advertiser 2]

Well, this will be in the house. You know what I'm saying? Cause is out here waiting and hating.

[Advertiser 4]

Waiting and hating.

[Advertiser 2]

And can't wait to tell a story about some you did or didn't do. So listen, man, I just feel like.

[Advertiser 3]

It is the Erykah Badu and Alchemist album should cleanse 2025. We need that.

[Advertiser 2]

Yeah, man. Come on, Erica. Go ahead and drop the man. Come on, Erica, Drop the.

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You have no idea how much we need right now.

[Advertiser 2]

I'm already ready to. Like, I got a pack of incense in the back of the cabinet right now ready to light up.

[Advertiser 3]

But that's another thing. People give Erica that stereotype. She might be on there talking some greasy.

[Advertiser 2]

No. I hope so.

[Advertiser 3]

Erica's not the neo soul that she gonna speak her mind about some that may make us feel uncomfortable.

[Advertiser 2]

I hope so. I want to. I want to hear it. Shout out to Erykah Badu. She has a new album coming soon, completely produced by the legendary. One of my favorite producers, the Alchemist.

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Can't wait.

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Can't wait to hear it. Al was telling us in London. I believe.

[Advertiser 3]

Yeah.

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That they was working on that. And we was both like, oh, shit.

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That's how I know. I'm such a music nerd. The producer told me that. And I said, you lying.

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Yes. Hard. I can't.

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I said, I don't even believe you. There's no way you have a full Erykah Badu. You guys really sat and did that. I cannot wait for this shit.

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Can't wait to hear it. I'm sure it's gonna be something. Something legendary. So shout out to Erykah Badu and Alchemist. Whenever that's gonna drop. I will be right there at midnight to download that for sure.

[Advertiser 3]

Should we get to our guest? All right, we'll introduce our guest when it cuts peach. Put an ad or put a clip, whatever the fuck. It's gonna be a whole new set, so I don't need to act like this is gonna be some clean transition here.

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[Advertiser 3]

Which I'm offended I haven't been on because I'm drunk all the time.

[Advertiser 2]

Yeah, you were born drunk, Rory. So we have a very special guest with us today, the legendary Sam Morrill. Did I say it right?

[Advertiser 1]

No, you nailed it. Yeah.

[Advertiser 2]

There you go, man. I ain't want to mispronounce your name.

[Advertiser 3]

You left out one accolade. He's also a friend of Marlon Craft. That's how this even got put together.

[Advertiser 1]

He's great.

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That's how we got connected. That's my guy.

[Advertiser 1]

Yeah, he's. I love his music, man. He's like, Marlon's dope. Yeah, it's just. I love that kind of, like, soulful rap. That kind of like, it's like, kind of in your feelings a little, but it's kind of self.

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Definitely in his feelings.

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Yeah.

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I told him that you were coming by at 4:30, and he was like, damn, I would come, but I have a zoom call. I'm like, you're a rapper. The. You have a Zoom call at 4:30.

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You must blow that off. You're a artist, dude. Jesus.

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Yeah, it's more mysterious if you don't show up.

[Advertiser 2]

Exactly.

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But we're happy to have you here. Yeah, man, I. I did see, you know, Marlon put us on the guest list for your show when he did the Garden.

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Oh, hell yeah.

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Which was great.

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That was crazy.

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I mean, I appreciate you for having him open up. That's awesome that he got to do that. Yeah.

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He's so New York to me. I was like, I want to make this, like, a real New York thing. And of course, he shows up in a Willis Reed jersey, so I was like, this is perfect. Yeah. No, that was. You want the show to feel New York. The gardens of Mecca, you know? So that was pretty special.

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Right.

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So. Yeah.

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I mean, MSC is a building that, as a New Yorker, you could either want to kill yourself, or you absolutely just love being there.

[Advertiser 1]

As a Knicks fan, I've wanted to kill myself a few times there.

[Advertiser 3]

And it wasn't cause of the Garden.

[Advertiser 1]

No, it was, dude. I mean, Ewing missing the finger roll. I was on the nosebleeds. That was brutal.

[Advertiser 3]

You were there for that game?

[Advertiser 1]

I was there for that game. That was probably the worst. I was 11, and my dad had to lift me over his shoulder, hysterically crying like a little bitch.

[Advertiser 3]

Ebony was the 90s. Did he hit you? He should have shut up.

[Advertiser 1]

He really should have. Yeah, no, it was. It was. That was brutal. Yeah. You have these memories of coming close, but that team. Like, that team shaped us, you know? I mean, that team being so tough and, like, they came up short, but they cared. They played like they gave a shit and cared about.

[Advertiser 2]

Me and Rory always talk about it. It's something about when the Knicks are in the playoffs that just feels like basketball. I don't know what it is. I can't explain. Even if we know, they're not getting out the first round.

[Advertiser 1]

Yeah.

[Advertiser 2]

Just the fact that they're in the playoffs. New York feels like New York.

[Advertiser 1]

Yeah. It's like Jalen Brunson just, like, gave us hope.

[Advertiser 2]

Yeah.

[Advertiser 1]

He just brought it back.

[Advertiser 2]

I give credit to Julius first, though.

[Advertiser 1]

Yeah, Julius first.

[Advertiser 2]

I don't. Because he gets overlooked a lot.

[Advertiser 1]

That's true.

[Advertiser 2]

Bringing New York basketball back to a certain level.

[Advertiser 1]

That was a rough series, though.

[Advertiser 2]

It was the series against Atlanta. We don't have to talk about that.

[Advertiser 1]

That was bad.

[Advertiser 2]

Yeah, that was terrible.

[Advertiser 1]

Trey Young's still riding off that. That guy. I'm so sick of him, like, doing the little Every time.

[Advertiser 2]

But. But we.

[Advertiser 3]

I think I might hate him more than Reggie Miller. No, come on.

[Advertiser 2]

It's not even.

[Advertiser 3]

Trey Young pisses me off. Like, not because he has the right to be as cocky as he is when it comes to us. And it just really bothers me.

[Advertiser 1]

He's got a losing record against us.

[Advertiser 3]

So did Reggie, but not when it mattered. Yeah, Smoke does when it matters, but.

[Advertiser 1]

That'S because he didn't make the playoffs the last couple years.

[Advertiser 2]

And Reggie is forever a New York. I think now it's. Obviously you still curse Reggie out, but you love him.

[Advertiser 3]

It's the age gap. Because I could run into Trey Song. Trey Songz. Trae Young at The hookah spot. Like, that's what I think. Pisses me off. More like Reggie, I was a kid.

[Advertiser 2]

Yeah.

[Advertiser 3]

Where's Trey at now? Which club is he at? Don't do that again.

[Advertiser 2]

They said that Trey Young might be getting traded next season.

[Advertiser 1]

Really?

[Advertiser 2]

I don't know if I. I can't.

[Advertiser 1]

Believe they traded God Hunter to the Cavs. That was crazy.

[Advertiser 2]

I like him a lot, too.

[Advertiser 1]

Me.

[Advertiser 2]

Yeah. He looks great.

[Advertiser 1]

19 a game. Defender for nothing.

[Advertiser 2]

Cleveland is the one team that I think a lot of people don't speak about, but they look like they are about a year or two away from the finals.

[Advertiser 1]

I mean, they could go this year. Yeah, they're tough. Mitchell is incredible.

[Advertiser 2]

Yeah.

[Advertiser 1]

But Mobley is now, like, you know, a big dude. He's long. He's like. They always said he was gonna be ad and he's, like, kind of looking like him. Finally.

[Advertiser 2]

Yeah. So, Sam, we're here to talk about. Cause me and Rory was talking about, you know, being podcasters, being on mic and sometimes saying things that, you know, the climate and you have to know what's going on. As a comedian.

[Advertiser 1]

Yeah.

[Advertiser 2]

How much do you pay attention to what's going on in the world, like, the real world versus what you can joke about? Is it a comedian's job to make fun of shit that's like, people are fucking panicking about? Like, how do you approach your comedic style?

[Advertiser 1]

Well, I think, yeah, if people are panicking, you gotta make jokes out of it. Right. I mean, it's like, if something bad is happening and you don't address it, you feel weird, you know? Yeah. If it's in the news, I'll take a stab at it. Usually it might not work. Like, you feel guilty when you throw an Epstein joke at a crowd and you're like, not the right tone, you know, but you feel guilt.

[Advertiser 3]

Anytime I've been on this microphone talking about Epstein.

[Advertiser 1]

Yeah. I mean, look, you're gonna make. You're gonna make jokes. That's what it is. But there's different types of comics. There's like, social commentator type comics. Like, if you're like Jon Stewart, you're gonna talk about politics, you're gonna do a bit more of that. And then there's people that are like, you know, like, Ray Romano might be talking more about his family or something, but I hate him. You don't like Ray Romano?

[Advertiser 3]

Oh, no, I'm saying the title of that show was misleading. His family. Oh, nobody liked. It's one of my favorite sitcoms. Nobody liked it.

[Advertiser 1]

Oh, yeah. I Love it.

[Advertiser 3]

He's a legend. That's one of the greatest sitcoms ever.

[Advertiser 1]

And he's, like, the nicest legend, too.

[Advertiser 3]

Queen's legend, too.

[Advertiser 1]

Yeah. Yeah, he. I think he's great.

[Advertiser 3]

How annoying is it that. That tends to be such a question with comics now. Like, when you have to do pods or whatever, interviews, especially morning radio and all that, like, everyone wants to focus on this politically correct when. I feel like none of you guys really give.

[Advertiser 1]

Yeah. When morning radio was like, you can't say anything anymore. I'm like, you guys can say anything. No one's listening to this. Yeah, no. There's like a weird. It bugs me a little when comics wear that as, like, a badge. Like, you can't say anything. I'm like, dude, you can literally say anything. There's this, like, weird. I think, look, there was a period when Trump first got elected where liberals were taking it out on their own. They were like, we can't stop him, so we're just gonna cancel some comedian in Topeka because he made some fucked up comment. But, you know, I think that kind of wore off a little bit. There was, like, a brief period. I think it was like. I think it started with MeToo, which came from a good place, and then they started, like, extending that, and that kind of extended into language. But, like, I feel like there's fatigue.

[Advertiser 2]

Yeah.

[Advertiser 1]

And. Yeah, like, come on, Jokes are jokes. I'll still. I did a joke the other night that pissed off someone in the front row. I addressed it. It was fun. It's fun if they're with me every step of the way. I'm not growing. I'm not. I'm not engaged or enjoying myself.

[Advertiser 3]

Do you actually like your fans?

[Advertiser 1]

Oh, yeah. I'm like, no. I don't.

[Advertiser 3]

Say what you have to say.

[Advertiser 1]

No, I really. I really do.

[Advertiser 3]

I'm conflict. I love our listeners so much, but I also have a weird relationship with.

[Advertiser 1]

Really?

[Advertiser 3]

Yeah. It's not, I guess, the give and take, because you're at the point where you're not. You're famous. So you're going into.

[Advertiser 1]

I'm really not. I'm like, MSG theater. I have. I have a pocket. I have a pocket of people who like me. And I'm fortunate for that, though. I'm very fortunate. But, you know. No, I mean, this could. It's on the. I remember I opened for Jim Jeffries in, like, 2011 or something, and he sold out, like, seven shows at Caroline's. I just remember, like, the end of the weekend, he lit a Cigarette. He's like, well, I'll see this place on the way back down. That's like. That's how I feel all the time. I don't feel like it's getting bigger. Like I think, I think I've kind of the ruses up. Yeah, it's been a good run.

[Advertiser 3]

I mean let's stay at this plateau as much as we can.

[Advertiser 1]

I'm enjoying myself. But yeah, I don't, I don't really feel. I don't think I'm big enough to get in trouble.

[Advertiser 3]

Not even.

[Advertiser 1]

Which is great.

[Advertiser 2]

Okay, what are they going to do?

[Advertiser 1]

Take away my podcast? Yeah, you know, like they're not going to like, I'm not like an NBC show where I have to be like, I didn't mean what I said. Also my podcast is called We Might be Drunk. It's like a disclaimer. I might have been up when I.

[Advertiser 3]

Said tough for advertisers to begin with.

[Advertiser 2]

Yeah, yeah.

[Advertiser 1]

Oh yeah. We should like the Fleshlight. We, our advertisers. It's like she underwear, you know, we're.

[Advertiser 3]

Not, we're not feel like someone should ever even do that. They should be wasting. There's no way the silver mine.

[Advertiser 1]

I've never tried it. But we did get sent one called the Vacu Glide which is. Have you heard of this?

[Advertiser 3]

Sounds fire.

[Advertiser 1]

It's like a. It's a dick sucking device.

[Advertiser 2]

Vacu Glide.

[Advertiser 1]

Yeah. I didn't know what it was but they.

[Advertiser 3]

This isn't an ad. But it could be.

[Advertiser 1]

No, we. Well, I haven't tried it so I can't vouch for it.

[Advertiser 3]

But.

[Advertiser 1]

But they, but they were like wolves. We'll. We'll be your sponsor and we. And Mark and I were like, it's like a bad look. But then they offered to send us them so we're like, all right, well. But then they only send one and we were like, fuck. We gave it to the producer because we don't want it to be a thing with the friendship. But yeah, it looks insane.

[Advertiser 2]

Vacuum Glide.

[Advertiser 3]

Wait. Oh, I'm sorry. I was looking at actual vac.

[Advertiser 1]

Can you imagine it comes with like a backpack. Can you imagine like lugging this around?

[Advertiser 3]

It's like a camelback. Yeah, that's a commitment to nutting that I just don't think I have exactly. I just, I don't, I don't have that to plug it.

[Advertiser 2]

Like it's not that deep. I don't need that.

[Advertiser 3]

I would also want to do this ad just so I could see the copy that they would send us because there's been products that we've done. You know, they send it to us and they're like, oh, give some personal experience. Here's some examples. I would love to just read that.

[Advertiser 2]

Personal.

[Advertiser 3]

Like, yeah, when I entered inside of it, I did just the tip. Tip.

[Advertiser 1]

That might be all it takes. I mean these things are powerful. I read some of the comments on it and they're like, they're hardcore. I mean it's. I was curious, yo.

[Advertiser 3]

Okay.

[Advertiser 1]

Because you get the extra.

[Advertiser 3]

I'm not judging people that purchase this what they want. Privately, I'm now judging. I didn't know this was a world where people are commenting and reviewing it. Those are the serial killers.

[Advertiser 1]

It's one thing to buy, it's another to log on and connect with a like minded community where you're like, I want to go back and forth. To me that's like you have to.

[Advertiser 3]

Sign up for an account.

[Advertiser 2]

Yeah.

[Advertiser 3]

They have to send you a verification.

[Advertiser 1]

No, I think it was like Amazon or something. It was. Because I wasn't. I don't think. Or maybe it was Reddit. I don't think it was like actually on the site. But I mean it's. Yeah, it's something should be private.

[Advertiser 2]

This guy.

[Advertiser 3]

This one's under deleted. Look.

[Advertiser 2]

No, no. The other guy says, I have been using my vacuum glide with my full body massage chair and the experience is incredible.

[Advertiser 3]

He's got life figured out.

[Advertiser 2]

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[Advertiser 3]

I actually love more of the concerned citizen here. Deleted. Is the suction of the vacu glide enough to keep on a flaccid penis? He's asking the real questions.

[Advertiser 2]

He wants to know, damn, how do.

[Advertiser 1]

You go back to just like a woman after this? Because I feel like you're just going to be disappointed if this thing's like that incredible.

[Advertiser 3]

Oh. I mean, not to get.

[Advertiser 1]

That's why I don't want to. That's why I beat off.

[Advertiser 3]

Off like that shit is a drug. That's just more dopamine and impulse that you're doing. This is, is. This is really a fentanyl version of sex. Like you're just finding a new way to have an impulse and try to get another high. Go talk to a woman and her please.

[Advertiser 1]

Yeah, you really. We can't. You're. You're cheating.

[Advertiser 2]

Yeah.

[Advertiser 1]

You're cheating the system a little bit.

[Advertiser 3]

Rewiring your brain.

[Advertiser 1]

I feel guilty when I just come in like a hotel room, like into a tissue I can't imagine the level of sadness you feel when you have to, like, unplug something, you know?

[Advertiser 3]

Especially the early tour days with us when we were in the shitty hotel rooms. Not. Not fucking fans.

[Advertiser 2]

Yeah.

[Advertiser 3]

Like, I'm just beating off you guys.

[Advertiser 1]

Fuck fans a lot.

[Advertiser 2]

It happened once at one time, and I will never do it again.

[Advertiser 1]

Damn.

[Advertiser 2]

It was the most awkward. We talked about it. A punch. It's just the most.

[Advertiser 1]

She knew a lot about you.

[Advertiser 2]

No, she thought she knew a lot about me based on listening to the show. And I'm just like, no. Like, you don't know. You know what I mean? That's just, like, a part. That's not who I am. And she didn't care. Like, after we had sex, like, I thought we was laying in the bed and it was like. Like was cool. And then she starts bringing up topics from the show, and I'm like, all right, this is. This is crazy. I can't. I can never. I can never do this again.

[Advertiser 3]

You'd rather cuddle?

[Advertiser 2]

No, I would. Yeah. By myself, though. Like, I was like, this is awkward.

[Advertiser 1]

Yeah.

[Advertiser 3]

I mean, my. My narcissism lands on. She would have liked me anyways.

[Advertiser 2]

She.

[Advertiser 3]

Just because she's a fan doesn't mean she's me. Because she's a fan of the show. She would have.

[Advertiser 2]

She would have liked if she met you in another.

[Advertiser 3]

That's how I trick my brain. That's my vacuum in my own head. She would have me anyways if we. We met each other. It's not because she's a POD fan, per se. Have you ever fucked a fan? I'm sure you're married. I didn't see a ring.

[Advertiser 1]

I'm not married. No. It's happened. It's been. It's been years. Yeah. I worry. I always worry about it. I'm like, something bad could happen. It's also just like. I don't know. I feel like you're stripped of your superpowers once you leave the venue.

[Advertiser 3]

Yeah.

[Advertiser 1]

Once you're just in a bar again, they're just like, oh, you're just a good dude. But if they see you in, like, a club or a theater, they're like, holy, this guy's really funny. Then the second I'm out of there, they're just like, oh, this guy fucking sucks.

[Advertiser 2]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Advertiser 1]

So, yeah, I don't know. Yeah, it's. It's been years. It's. It's not a. It's not a go to. I feel like I'm just gonna lose A fan.

[Advertiser 2]

Yeah, yeah.

[Advertiser 3]

And even my ego. Why I haven't done it is I think once they experience me offstage, they can't listen to this pod the same.

[Advertiser 1]

Like, you're losing a listener.

[Advertiser 3]

Like, dude, he talks all this shit on the pod. It was not.

[Advertiser 2]

Or depending on how you perform, you might.

[Advertiser 3]

She might perform that. Whatever ideas you better at being at this point.

[Advertiser 1]

Yeah, yeah, No, I feel that way too. Like, you want to stop being a fan of me. Get to know me. That's how I feel.

[Advertiser 2]

Yeah.

[Advertiser 1]

Yeah.

[Advertiser 2]

Get to know the real me.

[Advertiser 1]

Yeah. This is me. You're going to be like, I'm out. I get it.

[Advertiser 2]

So, Sam, you did a. You were in the Joker.

[Advertiser 1]

Yeah.

[Advertiser 2]

You had a. You had a scene in the Joker. How was that just. Was that your first, like, real big budget movie experience?

[Advertiser 1]

Oh, yeah. I'm not, like, a real actor, so it was insane that they hit me up. It was like, Todd Phillips just had seen my standup, and he was like, you should be. You should be in this movie. And. And I was like, okay. And it said, open mic, comedian. So I was like, all right, maybe this isn't a compliment, you know? But then I was like, so, what do you want me to do my jokes? And he's like, yeah. And I'm like, but I'm like an open micr. And he's like, yeah. I'm like, so you want me to do well or not if it's an open mic? And he's like, well, you know, you do. You want. I'm like, well, I'm not gonna go up and bomb with my fucking jokes, you know?

[Advertiser 2]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Advertiser 1]

And then I didn't even know how big the movie was gonna be. I figured it'd be big, but not, like, as big as it was the Joker.

[Advertiser 2]

Come on.

[Advertiser 1]

I. Dude, it was a billion dollar. It's the biggest rated R movie ever. So I didn't. I thought it would be big, but you don't know. Yeah.

[Advertiser 2]

Yeah.

[Advertiser 1]

So, I mean, look, the second one was a flop, right?

[Advertiser 2]

So they turned it into a weird musical.

[Advertiser 1]

It was just, like, kind of like that. He did that. Pissed off a lot of people I kind of respected.

[Advertiser 2]

Yeah.

[Advertiser 3]

I mean, I didn't put Tim Dylan in it, too.

[Advertiser 1]

Yeah.

[Advertiser 3]

Comedian Tim did the scene. Make it. I didn't see the.

[Advertiser 1]

Tim said he looked away for, like, a second and missed his. Missed his moment. I. You don't even really see me much in the movies. He's, like, watching me a screen and then. And had, like, a mustache. It was Weird. But yeah, I remember doing, like, I did like 15 takes for extras, and, you know, I think they were expecting me to suck, but I'm like, I'm doing well. I'm gonna do well there. And I. I was killing. Except for one bit I did that. Like, Todd was like, don't do that joke again. I did a joke about, like, vibrators and women, like, you know, saying like, you made me come.

[Advertiser 3]

Yeah, no, no, you can't do down on the ads. Like, yo, I'm also bringing to this.

[Advertiser 2]

Movie rated all movie ever.

[Advertiser 1]

It was the 80s, so you can't even do a. You can't even do. So he was like, it's no cell phone jokes got to work in the 80s. And I was like, all right. But then.

[Advertiser 2]

But then every time I didn't think about that. Yeah, make it to that time. Yeah.

[Advertiser 1]

So I would. Yeah. So I was like, let me see what I can. But, yeah, every. But the one time, you know, you get a light on stage, it means, like, you got, like, two minutes left. But when they light you here, they're like, get off. It doesn't matter if you're in the middle because they just have to follow Joaquin in the middle of a joke. I was like, yeah, yeah, I got it. But I just kept telling the joke and they were like, what the fuck.

[Advertiser 3]

Are you doing Running the light in the Joker.

[Advertiser 1]

It's like a big mov movie. It was also fun because Chris Redd from. From SNL was basically playing, you know, just an open mic mc. So he's. His whole part is he has to bring me up and watch me kill.

[Advertiser 2]

Yeah.

[Advertiser 1]

So he's just getting so annoyed. He's like, I could be fucking killing right now.

[Advertiser 2]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Advertiser 1]

But no, it was fun. I. I talked to Joaquin a little bit. He was. I wasn't going to talk to him, but he was. He was pretty friendly. So I was like, all right, I'll chat with you.

[Advertiser 2]

Yeah.

[Advertiser 3]

What are movie sets actually like? Like?

[Advertiser 1]

It was. I mean, they were. They were happy. I was there because the movie was so bleak that I think every day Waken's, like, weighs 80 pounds. He's, like, shirtless and just, like, angry and, you know, putting a pillowcase over his mother's face. So I think to get a comic in there, they were like, you. You lighten the mood for a day. And we. And we appreciate how dumb and silly this was.

[Advertiser 3]

So he's trying to get his Heath Ledger.

[Advertiser 2]

Yeah, yeah.

[Advertiser 3]

They didn't care. Yeah, we've seen this before with the Joker. Let's let him do this again.

[Advertiser 1]

Well, that's what I was thinking. I was like, maybe people are sick of the Joker. It seems like people are just like, they love the joke.

[Advertiser 3]

Know and destroy a method actor's life.

[Advertiser 2]

Great. I thought that movie was great. A lot of people gave it flack because it wasn't the prototypical, you know, fight scenes and all of that. And said it was more of a story of a. I loved it. Depressed guy. I thought that that Joker film was dark.

[Advertiser 1]

Yeah, it was. It was. It was a bleak one. Yeah. I thought it looked incredible. That was, like, beautiful looking.

[Advertiser 2]

Yeah.

[Advertiser 1]

You know.

[Advertiser 3]

What did you think of Jim Norton set in the Irishman?

[Advertiser 1]

He was doing Rickles, right?

[Advertiser 3]

Yeah, I think it was actual. They had given him real audio. I think those were actual Rickles jokes from whatever that club was that they were going to. That's famous. What's the. In Goodfellas where they do the one shot scene? Oh, yeah, I forgot whatever that famous club is in New York. But yeah, I think that was real, real audio, which is why Scorsese is such a genius. That's audio from that night that Rickles was doing. That was very accurate that they had Jim Norton do that.

[Advertiser 1]

Yeah, I liked. I thought that was a pretty cool movie. Especially the second half when it got, like, really dark. It's just like three dudes who are near death and they're like, all playing guys who are about to die.

[Advertiser 2]

Yeah.

[Advertiser 1]

I mean, it was kind of heavy.

[Advertiser 3]

Even it being, like, a lie. I thought it was a great Scorsese movie. Of course, it's not Goodfellas, but Irishman, I think, gets too much flack.

[Advertiser 1]

I was dating a younger woman who saw that with me. You know, she's like, late in the theater. Yeah, we saw it in the theater. And then she was like, oh, let's watch his other stuff. And then she was like, it's all just the same movie. I was like, yeah. And then I remember showing her Ace Ventura and she's like, he just acts retarded. I'm like, it was a different time, like, trying to defend my child.

[Advertiser 3]

I don't know how funny it was when he came out of that rhinoceros's ass like that.

[Advertiser 1]

That was coming.

[Advertiser 2]

Yeah. Back then. Yeah.

[Advertiser 3]

And I mean, well, she was probably offended he was the transgender. You know what? That's not funny anymore.

[Advertiser 2]

Who was transgender? Oh, oh, Ray Finkel.

[Advertiser 1]

Damn.

[Advertiser 2]

Laces.

[Advertiser 1]

It's a good. It was a good twist even back then. Yeah.

[Advertiser 3]

So laces out Turned them transgender.

[Advertiser 1]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Advertiser 3]

I'm going to leave that one alone. We have advertisers.

[Advertiser 1]

This next segment's brought to you by the Vacu Glide.

[Advertiser 2]

How do you feel about that?

[Advertiser 1]

Don't cut it off.

[Advertiser 3]

You can put it in here.

[Advertiser 2]

The JFK files being released. As a comedian, do you plan on writing anything based around that?

[Advertiser 1]

Yeah, they're like the JFK files that were released. Here's 700 pages. I'm like, can you just give me a name? I have to. Is it your job to look it up?

[Advertiser 3]

Thousand pages.

[Advertiser 1]

Oh, is it really? Okay, well, then. That. I don't. I don't want to. You could tell me my mom got murdered in a thousand pages.

[Advertiser 3]

I'm not going to read Lord of the Flies from elementary school. I think I'm reading 80,000 pages of the JFK files.

[Advertiser 1]

This is actually the smarter thing they could have done because they made us not want to look at it. You know, they're like, it's 80,000 pages.

[Advertiser 2]

Nobody's reading it.

[Advertiser 3]

Banked on our education system.

[Advertiser 1]

Yeah. We all have lives. I can't just, like, stop my Life and read 80,000 pages.

[Advertiser 2]

It was a funny thing on Twitter. I've seen a lot of people, like, asking Grok, like, okay, Grok, so who killed jfk? Like, who was behind it? Like, fuck. Nobody's reading that. Let's get right to it. It. Who killed jfk?

[Advertiser 1]

Don't ask Gro, because he's going to say the Jews 100%. Twitter's getting fucking dark for the Jews right now. I'm like, I don't want to look at this shit.

[Advertiser 3]

It's. It's rough for you guys.

[Advertiser 1]

It's not fun, right?

[Advertiser 3]

Yeah, even black Twitter has entered that part.

[Advertiser 1]

Yeah, it's not good.

[Advertiser 3]

Yeah, no, this might be.

[Advertiser 1]

Black Twitter is like, the gays. You have a break, Jews, you're up.

[Advertiser 3]

Shoes. Even. Even Kanye has entered the chat.

[Advertiser 1]

Oh, yeah, well, he's been in the chat. He's. He's been doing that.

[Advertiser 2]

But how Is. Is the thing I don't understand about the whole Kanye thing is he.

[Advertiser 1]

Is that Hitler wouldn't have liked him. Well, that's part I don't get. He would not have been a fan of you, Kanye.

[Advertiser 2]

That part. Yeah.

[Advertiser 3]

Well, Hitler was an artist. He may have understood what Kanye was doing, but I just.

[Advertiser 2]

Why isn't his account suspended yet?

[Advertiser 1]

Because Elon's whole thing is, I guess, free speech and. I don't know. Yeah, I don't know.

[Advertiser 2]

I get that. And I respect free Speech. But you have to know at some point. Point, okay, this person has way too big of a voice platform, and they're obviously going through something.

[Advertiser 1]

This person's unwell right there.

[Advertiser 2]

It's like, this person, something is not well.

[Advertiser 1]

My friend Gary Veder said, like, he's off his meds, and he's like, isn't that even worse that he needs meds to not hate Jews? I mean, there's something weird about that, too.

[Advertiser 3]

Well, he said he had a Jewish doctor. So does he? That was a big thing.

[Advertiser 1]

What happened with Jonah Hill cured him for, like, a few months. Remember?

[Advertiser 2]

It was cool.

[Advertiser 3]

He was just rapping by for a bit.

[Advertiser 2]

Yeah.

[Advertiser 3]

It didn't. Didn't very good.

[Advertiser 1]

He. He watched, like. He watched 22 Jump street and was like, all right, all right, this feels like a setup.

[Advertiser 3]

But even again, this could be. My naiveness is free speech should be fine in that regard, because who is Kanye really turned? Like, what person is going, you know what? He's making some good points here. I think I'm going to be anti Semitic now. I don't think Kanye, of course, has influence, but I really don't think his wild Twitter outbursts are turning even the most fragile brains.

[Advertiser 2]

No.

[Advertiser 1]

Yeah.

[Advertiser 2]

I don't think.

[Advertiser 3]

I don't. I think even his fans are. Will ignore it and be like, all right, I don't care what he says over here. I'm still going to listen to music. That's one thing. I don't think anyone is sitting there going, like, yeah, you know what? Kanye's making some really good points right now.

[Advertiser 1]

It is a bummer when you're, like, in a store and you still hear Kanye and you're like, it's still pretty good, you know?

[Advertiser 2]

Yeah.

[Advertiser 1]

Because right now, the KKK's playlist just jumped up a level. Listen, you throw some Kanye in there, like, all right, he's one of us.

[Advertiser 3]

I'm going. Going. I'm an admitted hypocrite. Often. Me and Peas were listening to the Bully album yesterday when it leaked, and I was like, it's pretty good.

[Advertiser 1]

Is it?

[Advertiser 2]

I mean, it's still kind.

[Advertiser 3]

You can feel that. Which I don't particularly love.

[Advertiser 1]

A lot of racists and anti Semites have made great Chevrolet. Dahl is a notorious anti Semite. He made some of the best children's books ever. I mean, a lot of terrible people can still produce good work.

[Advertiser 2]

It's like.

[Advertiser 1]

It's not insane.

[Advertiser 3]

I watched the Charlie Manson doc that's on Netflix now.

[Advertiser 1]

Another great artist, you know, dude, I.

[Advertiser 3]

Knew The Manson family story. But they played his, like, unreleased. They leaked some of his songs. I was like, this guy's pretty good. No, it kind of has a voice.

[Advertiser 2]

It was. It was surprisingly good. It was. I'm gonna be honest.

[Advertiser 3]

It was granted full blown racist as well. Hated black people. Wanted to stop all that for the race war, this and that. But it'd be weird if he. Voice of an angels.

[Advertiser 1]

It'd be weird if you murder a bunch of people and then you're like, no, but I think all races are equal, you know, you should be racist if you're a murderer.

[Advertiser 3]

That was a different level of racism because he thought there was going to be a race war. So he murdered white liberal people that like black people instead of murdering black people. That's a different level of commitment to racism.

[Advertiser 2]

Right.

[Advertiser 1]

So he was.

[Advertiser 3]

I'm kill my own kind. That's not on this type of time.

[Advertiser 1]

Yeah. Interesting.

[Advertiser 3]

Is that dark? I'm sorry?

[Advertiser 2]

Very dark.

[Advertiser 3]

No, I mean, watch the doc.

[Advertiser 1]

I mean, you should me shouldn't do it. That's what you're asking? Yeah. Yeah, Listen.

[Advertiser 3]

My mother lived in the same building as a Son of Sam, so really, I'm used to this. Yeah. Live in the same building during that time.

[Advertiser 2]

Like, knew him, seen him?

[Advertiser 3]

No, she said she never saw him nor heard the dog. But they lived in Yonkers in the same building at the same time.

[Advertiser 2]

That's great.

[Advertiser 3]

Which is. Was the safest place for her to be. Cuz he was killing everywhere else.

[Advertiser 2]

Yeah, yeah. He's not killing Biden.

[Advertiser 1]

Some kind of murder is taking his orders from a dog.

[Advertiser 2]

Yeah.

[Advertiser 1]

Come on. Sam told me that's a bad dog right there. You go to the pound, you're like, I'm gonna rescue. And then you're like, this dog. Dog's starting to make a lot of sense. I don't know.

[Advertiser 3]

That could be the name of your next special, Sam.

[Advertiser 1]

That's true. And my agent's last name is Berkowitz, so.

[Advertiser 3]

Shocker.

[Advertiser 1]

Yeah.

[Advertiser 2]

Wait, hold on. That's crazy. That's some dark shit right there.

[Advertiser 1]

Yeah.

[Advertiser 3]

Don't look at me that way.

[Advertiser 4]

I am just letting you.

[Advertiser 2]

Your agent's name is Berkowitz?

[Advertiser 1]

Yeah. David too.

[Advertiser 3]

No way. Okay.

[Advertiser 2]

I was like, I'm about to say. All right, man. This is fucking crazy. So, Sam, you have a tour coming up?

[Advertiser 1]

Yeah.

[Advertiser 2]

What are you looking forward to most about being on the road?

[Advertiser 1]

Is it just actually watching this Manson doc now?

[Advertiser 2]

Shit.

[Advertiser 1]

No, just, you know, I mean, I'm on a tour bus, so every Every night's a different city and we just. It's fun as hell, man. I love it, but it's, you know, you're going to some of these places on like a Monday or a Tuesday, so you hope people come out. But so far it's been pretty good.

[Advertiser 2]

Who you on a roll with? Is it just you?

[Advertiser 1]

My friend? Gary Veder. Kanye Joke. Great comic. Yeah, we're hustling, man. We're working hard. We're making a movie while we're out there, too, so it's fucking killing me.

[Advertiser 2]

Yeah, you got to. Now, at this point, if you're on a tour bus, you gotta film all of that.

[Advertiser 1]

We're kind of making like a stand up comedy, Spinal Tap type of movie. And it's pretty fun. I think it's really got some great cameos in there. And it's. So we're working, like all day. We wake up in a city, you know.

[Advertiser 2]

Do you like being. Do you like that part of your career? Like, traveling, being on the road? Is it something you're like, I like it. I gotta be away from home for fucking two months.

[Advertiser 1]

The second I think I don't like it, I come home and I start itching. It is like a fucking drug, really.

[Advertiser 3]

I. I complain about us touring all the time, and then when we're back home, I'm like, damn, I want to go to Houston.

[Advertiser 1]

Yeah, there's something about it, right?

[Advertiser 2]

You.

[Advertiser 1]

You kind of miss the.

[Advertiser 3]

I don't know, back to the vacuum. I think it's an impulse and dopamine of just constantly moving and being on the road.

[Advertiser 1]

I agree. I think my career is a lot like a vacuum.

[Advertiser 3]

Yeah, No, I think. I think it was a perfect example, to be quite honest.

[Advertiser 1]

No, I think, you know, you also feel like you're working on your set, so you're like, all right, I tried a new joke. You just. I feel like when I'm not, like, gaining ground with my act, I feel like a fraud. But then also you feel like a fraud when you start killing and it gets good. So I feel. I always feel like a fraud.

[Advertiser 2]

Are you always writing as a writer and as a comedian while you're on the road? Are you constantly writing? Okay, that didn't work. I gotta switch that out. I gotta come up with something new. Is it city specific? Is it just.

[Advertiser 1]

Nah, it should work everywhere. Like, if a joke works here, it should work in Sweden, you know, the joke should work everywhere. I think. I don't really change my act at all, except for, like, I'll shit On the city I'm in usually. But it. Yeah, I don't.

[Advertiser 2]

That's always fun on the city end.

[Advertiser 1]

I love it.

[Advertiser 2]

As long as you leave the same night. Like, you get out of there the same.

[Advertiser 1]

Yeah. No. And also, the bus is right out back. I'm like, they could riot.

[Advertiser 2]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Advertiser 1]

Canada was dicey. I was like, this could be rough.

[Advertiser 2]

They don't like us right now at all.

[Advertiser 3]

But you being the tariff is funny. Do you have a no on the tour bus rule? That's always.

[Advertiser 1]

Oh, it's not my rule. So it's the driver's rule. Because you can't. You can't poop on the bus. The. The.

[Advertiser 3]

I won't say the hardest thing. There was one tour bus I was on that allowed that, and I was like, I thought this was. Was an unwritten rule that you're not.

[Advertiser 2]

Allowed on a tour bus.

[Advertiser 1]

Yeah. You're not supposed to. It just stays there. Yeah. Did it smell really bad? Yes, it just stays.

[Advertiser 3]

There was a photographer that I don't think had been on the road before and was. Just walked in and took a. Well, what?

[Advertiser 1]

My. I have a video guy with me, and he did it. But he did it in, like, a triple bag and threw it. And like, you still can't just throw it in the garbage. But we had Nashville hot chicken. It was on me for getting a Nashville hot chicken. And. Oh, my God, his body could.

[Advertiser 2]

He had.

[Advertiser 1]

He's like a big bodybuilder type, and he had three hot chickens. I'm like, what did you think was gonna happen?

[Advertiser 2]

Yeah.

[Advertiser 1]

You thought that was just gonna sit there pleasantly. That's an. That's an attack on your body. So that. That was one. And then we did.

[Advertiser 3]

Yeah.

[Advertiser 1]

No. No pooping. My. I have the same driver Tom Segura had. And. And he was like, seguru used to hot box this. And I was like, that's not good. He's like, I didn't like it.

[Advertiser 3]

That's. That's intentional. You could go sit somewhere else. He was doing that purposely.

[Advertiser 2]

Yeah.

[Advertiser 1]

You train your body, too. You're just like, I'll just have my. You have. You plan your coffees. I'll, like, I'll poop after breakfast.

[Advertiser 2]

Yeah.

[Advertiser 1]

You just can't. You can't.

[Advertiser 2]

You know. You know how to use. Well, you should know how to live on the road during those times. Like, I can't. My diet has to change a little bit because we're not accessible to a bathroom 24 7. I'm not home.

[Advertiser 1]

Yeah.

[Advertiser 2]

So I'M not gonna eat a bunch of ice cream and pizza and all of this and then get on the tour bus for 15 hours.

[Advertiser 3]

This actually just checks out now. I love Tom. Cigar. I think he's incredible. I love his. Both his podcast, everything.

[Advertiser 1]

Yeah.

[Advertiser 3]

Never met the man. But remember we did Houston Improv at noon?

[Advertiser 2]

Yes.

[Advertiser 1]

Damn.

[Advertiser 2]

Yeah.

[Advertiser 3]

We did Dallas the night before. We ended at midnight and then found out we had Houston Improv at noon.

[Advertiser 1]

That is a rough time spot.

[Advertiser 2]

Oh, my God, awful.

[Advertiser 3]

So we. After we finished at. I'm snitching on them. Houston Improv was like, Tom Segura was here. Here last night. Biggest asshole we've ever met.

[Advertiser 1]

Oh. I was like, oh. I thought.

[Advertiser 2]

Yeah.

[Advertiser 3]

I was so confused when they said that. I was like, he doesn't struggle.

[Advertiser 1]

They also. They're also not supposed to do that, by the way. Happened to me once in St. Louis. I was at a club and they were like, bob Saget, huge prick. And I was like, I know Saget. He's the fucking best.

[Advertiser 3]

Yeah.

[Advertiser 1]

And the reasoning was he, like, wanted to get to morning radio early. I'm like, that's, like, nice. He's a pro.

[Advertiser 3]

It's a considerate.

[Advertiser 1]

They're like, he wanted to wake up extra early. What a prick. I'm like, he's trying to fucking sell out your club. But. But also, you're not supposed to say that. You're not supposed to just, like, tell people. No, Saga was. He was the fucking. He was cool. Yeah.

[Advertiser 3]

No, I found that og. That was the first venue I'd been to where they just offered information about other people. Like, we didn't ask anything. We were just in the green room.

[Advertiser 1]

Yeah. They're like, Thompson weird penis, too. And you're like, you're not supposed to be telling me this.

[Advertiser 3]

Like, he threw it in a vacuum. It was odd.

[Advertiser 1]

No, Tom's a great guy. I love Tom.

[Advertiser 3]

So since it's March Madness currently, we put together something that we would hope this is strictly to just try to get YouTube headlines. Put you in a weird spot. That's all this is for, I promise. Sure. This isn't for the love of the game. This is SEO. We did the March Madness stand up Specials, but just 8. Keep it sort of quick.

[Advertiser 1]

Okay.

[Advertiser 3]

I feel like. Should all three of us vote? Sure. And that figures out who gets to the next one. Or should we just put Sam on the spot and make him make every decision so all the blame falls on him?

[Advertiser 1]

So these are the best specials. And we have.

[Advertiser 3]

These are just eight amazing specials. That we're doing a March Madness bracket for.

[Advertiser 1]

Okay, so Raw versus What. What was that say?

[Advertiser 3]

All right, so we. We were go.

[Advertiser 1]

Poppy.

[Advertiser 3]

We were going to give Eddie Murphy Raw just a buy.

[Advertiser 1]

Yeah.

[Advertiser 3]

Number one seed. But we thought.

[Advertiser 1]

I mean, it's kind of the same thing, right?

[Advertiser 3]

We thought. We thought maybe. And we took down a George Carlin special because we thought it was more appropriate to put Brennan, Schaub, Gringo. Poppy.

[Advertiser 1]

Sure, sure.

[Advertiser 3]

Against Eddie Murphy. Raw. I don't mean to put you on the spot early.

[Advertiser 1]

Well, this is a close call.

[Advertiser 2]

Yeah, Very close.

[Advertiser 1]

Yeah. I'm going to go with Raw, I think, for this one. Just by an eyelash. Controversial take by an eyelash.

[Advertiser 2]

Yeah.

[Advertiser 1]

Yeah.

[Advertiser 3]

Mal, it's Raw.

[Advertiser 2]

Raw. Next question.

[Advertiser 1]

I also think the Godfather is better than Deuce Bigelow, European gigolo, in case you were wondering.

[Advertiser 3]

Is it Chris Rock, Bring the Pain?

[Advertiser 1]

Yeah.

[Advertiser 3]

Richard Pryor live on the Sunset Street. Now we're getting it, like, real ones, real close.

[Advertiser 1]

But for me, my generate rock was very big for me, so I would say bring the pain.

[Advertiser 3]

Bring the pain.

[Advertiser 1]

But I think Live in the Sunset Strip is brilliant, and I think the Closer is inspired. And Pryor is one of the most charismatic comics of all time. And the story about lighting himself on fire, freebasing, to me is like, to make that funny. It's because it's so hard because you love him. So it's hard to laugh at someone who, you know is this, like, living cautionary tale. So I think for that reason, that special is probably my second favorite prior special. But Bring the Pain was like. It hit me at the right time. I was super young. I remember this is. This is how much I love Chris Rock. I think I was listening to his album Roll with the New when I was a kid, and my mom just saw headphones and she saw me laughing. She's like, what the fuck is he listening to? So she grabbed the headphones and listened to it, and I just saw this look of horror on her face. And then, like 30 seconds later, she started laughing. I was like, that's the power of Chris Rock that he can, like, push you away with a joke and then, like, pull you right back. So, I mean, I love that. That special is pretty big for me.

[Advertiser 3]

I mean, with my age, for sure. Chris Rock Bring the Pain was probably the first comedy special I think I ever saw. Like, it's one of those to comedy. Once you got into comedy, did you go back to the Richard Pryor stuff? Like, yeah, I did that with music. Like, once I Got into music. I then went back to shit that I was not really around for, even if I was a living child.

[Advertiser 1]

You revisit not just comedy, but movies every few years. Cause you. You see stuff differently as you get older, right? So, yeah, you feel differently about these works as you get older. So. Yeah, I love that. It's been a while since I watched that. I should probably give it a watch.

[Advertiser 2]

But what's one comedy special that you absolutely love that people didn't really seem to, like, take to and talk about?

[Advertiser 1]

That they didn't like it or that they should know? I mean, this one, I think every comic says it's the best album ever. But, like, I still think not enough people know how great Dave Attell is. So I'll say Skanks for the memories. Cause I think it's the funniest album ever. Let me think of one that people don't talk about. Really great. I don't watch as many as I used to because I'm worried I'm gonna absorb. And I watch so much comedy at the clubs anyway. Just peeking in. But.

[Advertiser 2]

Damn, when you say absorb, meaning you feel like you're gonna. You might kind of mimic the material.

[Advertiser 1]

I riff a lot, so I don't want ideas fall into my head. Okay.

[Advertiser 3]

When we have. Have, like, new artists on our pod, they. When we ask them what they're listening to now, they're always like, nothing. I don't want to hear anything at all. I want to just have my own thoughts of what I'm doing right now. Because I could absorb some shit if I like it. That's. That's interesting that every time we've had an artist on here thinking like, yo, you must be listening to some crazy shit. Nah, you know, I don't listen to anything.

[Advertiser 1]

You know what I love, I think is a really underrated special as. As a New Yorker is Colin Quinn's New York Story. I love.

[Advertiser 2]

Okay.

[Advertiser 1]

I think it's like. Like. It's just, like, amazing. Yeah, he gets every race of people. He. He has this, like, wealth of knowledge about the history of the city. He's. I think he's great.

[Advertiser 3]

The coloring. The book itself.

[Advertiser 1]

Coloring book is. I loved it.

[Advertiser 3]

One of my favorite books ever. And the audiobook, if people that don't want to read, which I understand.

[Advertiser 1]

It's so fun.

[Advertiser 3]

Him just delivering it with the audiobook is one of my favorite things ever. And he turned it into, like, a Broadway play. I feel like Seinfeld directed it, I think.

[Advertiser 1]

Yeah, that was amazing.

[Advertiser 3]

That's the one you're talking about.

[Advertiser 1]

New York story. Yeah.

[Advertiser 3]

Got you.

[Advertiser 1]

I love that. Yeah. I mean, I love all of his stuff, but. Yeah, that's a really good one.

[Advertiser 3]

Yeah. Colin Quinn is definitely up there. I found out we were related at a funeral.

[Advertiser 1]

Really?

[Advertiser 3]

Yeah.

[Advertiser 1]

No shit.

[Advertiser 3]

We ended up on email, but I never replied because I was nervous. I swear to God, I can't see.

[Advertiser 1]

I'm at the wrong angle for the rest.

[Advertiser 3]

What else? This is Bill Burr. You people are all the same verse. Patrice O'Neill, elephant in the room.

[Advertiser 1]

It's tough.

[Advertiser 3]

I know.

[Advertiser 1]

I will say this. It's not my favorite Burr special, and it is my favorite Patrice special. So I probably, for this one would go Patrice. But like, if you said Bill Burr, like, I'm trying to think of another. I mean, there's so many good Burr specials. That's the thing. He's so prolific.

[Advertiser 3]

Why we want that one? That was kind of the one that I think put Burr, like, on the map.

[Advertiser 1]

Which is that. That's the black and white one. Is it?

[Advertiser 3]

No, the purple. The purple background, which was a weird. As a redhead, was a weird color to choose. Like, if I was directing that, I wouldn't have chose that. But yeah, it's the purple background.

[Advertiser 1]

I don't know, man. For me, it's tough. It's like, you know, you guys talk about music. Biggie's got two albums, right? Patrice has really one special because he has a one night stand for HBO that I don't think captured his greatness. Where he was doing street jokes in it. It was just weird. He's doing those kind of corny jokes that were beneath him. And then he did this and it's like, oh, that's how great he is.

[Advertiser 3]

I mean, even Elephant in the Room, which I think is an absolute classic, still does not capture how talented Patrice O'Neal was. Like. Yeah, that's. That's not even as the height of who he was.

[Advertiser 1]

God, I love the one. What this is the Burst special he's talking about. Rescuing the dog is so funny.

[Advertiser 3]

I think that that's. You people are all the same. Is it? That's like the second joke and you.

[Advertiser 1]

Damn. Okay. It's.

[Advertiser 3]

Yeah, no, this is.

[Advertiser 2]

It's a tough one.

[Advertiser 3]

That Bill Burr special is.

[Advertiser 1]

Is a.

[Advertiser 3]

That's his illmatic.

[Advertiser 1]

I love Bill Burr. Yeah, it's close, man. I don't know. I. The only reason I lean Patrice is because it's like his only one.

[Advertiser 2]

Yeah.

[Advertiser 1]

So it's like how you remember a great comic, but Bill was One of my favorite.

[Advertiser 2]

I'm going. Patrice, personally in this. In this matchup.

[Advertiser 3]

I would go with. With Burr on this one. Even though Elf in the Room is one of my favorite special.

[Advertiser 1]

I love. I love Burr. So it's. It's. I mean, this is like you're asking me all that was the point of this.

[Advertiser 3]

Putting them together.

[Advertiser 1]

Yeah, this is tough.

[Advertiser 3]

Do you have any. You know, we just had Derek Gaines on the pod as well, and he told a hilarious Patrice O'Neill story. Do you have any Patrice O'Neill stories?

[Advertiser 1]

I never met him. And I probably am lucky for that because I've heard stories, but I don't think he would have liked me. Maybe I would have grown on him. Like, I've. No, I. I'm friendly with a lot of people who were close to him, but yeah, I think he just liked to get under your skin and fuck with you.

[Advertiser 2]

Absolutely.

[Advertiser 1]

I mean, obviously I love, like Norton and Burr and Keith Robinson, who are all close to him.

[Advertiser 3]

Keith is amazing. Amazing.

[Advertiser 1]

Yeah.

[Advertiser 3]

All right, Louis C.K. hilarious versus Dave Chappelle. Killing Him Softly.

[Advertiser 1]

Wow. Again, you're putting. Is a weird one because this isn't Louie's best work.

[Advertiser 3]

We were going. We were doing.

[Advertiser 1]

This is Chappelle's best work.

[Advertiser 3]

I agree. Killing Him Softly is probably his best.

[Advertiser 1]

This is Chappelle's best special. I think it's like, dude, he's high fiving people in D.C. he's walking up. He's like.

[Advertiser 2]

He's.

[Advertiser 1]

He's fired up.

[Advertiser 3]

It was it.

[Advertiser 1]

If you said Louis chewed up, I would have said Louis chewed up.

[Advertiser 3]

So we were. We were debating before because I think we even went on the Internet to see, like, what the consensus of what people were saying. And it was so mixed between Shoot Up Hilarious and God, I'm forgetting the other one. Shameless.

[Advertiser 1]

I think Even Louis, like 2017 or 2018, whatever he called that one.

[Advertiser 3]

It was called Sincerely Yours was. I think that was the name of it was Everything.

[Advertiser 1]

No, no. This is the Netflix one I'm talking about. I think it was called 2018. Had that one I thought was incredible too, and I opened for him on a couple of those. So I'd see him do like an hour 40 and be like, fuck, he's. He's top of his game. Yeah. I go with Kill Him Softly because I think it's Chappelle's best. And I think this is not. I love this special. Hilarious. I love Louis, but it's not his best one, I don't think. Yeah, I think Shoot up and I like the other one after this better. But I love. I mean, dude, Louis bit in this Goodbye Jude, the Schindler's List joke. That's fucking brilliant. That a little girl had to audition. Like a little Juilliard girl had to be like, goodbye, Jews. I mean, that's fucking inspired. So you asked me to choose between. I understand the difficulty of this game, but Eileen Chappelle. Only because it's my favorite Chappelle.

[Advertiser 3]

Hours of tapes of an audition of 30 little girls going up saying, goodbye, Jews. That exists.

[Advertiser 1]

Louis, I think, still at the top of his game. I think his new shit. I see him at the Cellar all the time and it's unbelievable. I think he might be the best. I mean, it's crazy to say he still might be the best at comedies. He's incredible.

[Advertiser 3]

He has the most unique brains of standups that I've ever seen. How he just views the world is different than anyone else. Even Chappelle, including who I think obviously is the goat. It's not a crazy take, but I still think Louis has a different perspective than everyone else. He's going to look at something. There will never be another Louis CK perspective of another joke. You could get a Chappelle joke and someone will have a similar point of.

[Advertiser 1]

View and maybe different styles. Right? I mean, like, Chappelle will sometimes go for, like, a greater meaning thing at the end. And Louis will never do that. Louis will just.

[Advertiser 3]

I think he does that too.

[Advertiser 1]

Louis will go. I mean, Louis new shit, at least is so absurdist and silly. If you hear Louis first album live in Houston, it's like just weird, absurdist one liners. And you're just like, this is crazy. That it then evolved into like, fuck my kids, I hate my kids. It's crazy. I mean, look, we're arguing over greats here. And if you said chewed up, I would have said Louis chewed up, but it's just neck and neck.

[Advertiser 3]

Gotcha. All right, well, I think we're fine. We tell them to softly go into the next round.

[Advertiser 2]

All right, we got.

[Advertiser 1]

I already know who's winning this.

[Advertiser 2]

You going Eddie Murphy?

[Advertiser 1]

No, I'm going rock.

[Advertiser 2]

You going rock?

[Advertiser 1]

Because my. I love. I also think there's an argument that delirious is better than raw. So I love, like, the Rocky bit in raw. I love. I think raw is incredible and I'm paying for it. Yeah, it's. I mean, just the way. Yeah, I love Eddie Murphy so much, but, like, I think rock in the 90s is like. To me, like, that's like My bar for what comedy can be because I thought it hit me at the right time.

[Advertiser 2]

I didn't feel like Bring the Pain was his best one.

[Advertiser 3]

I mean, Bigger and Blacker is probably.

[Advertiser 2]

What a lot of people.

[Advertiser 3]

People would say. So I hear you. But I mean, Bring the Pain from my age group. That was the one. I went and bought the DVD of Bigger and Blacker because I saw Bring the Package Pain. That. That was the one for me. I don't think rock can really be touched in the late 90s, 2000s, like that was it Bigger Blacker to bring the pain back to back was untouchable. Like the chappelle was more of like a. You had to be cooler and. And know what was going on. He was a monster. Like, that was comedy at that time for me.

[Advertiser 2]

Sam, do you feel like Chris Rock is an A lister? Because we had this, me and Roy.

[Advertiser 1]

Of course. Yeah.

[Advertiser 3]

And in comedy, of course.

[Advertiser 2]

No, I think in the world celebrity.

[Advertiser 3]

Oh, of course he got slapped by an A lister, but that doesn't make you an A lister.

[Advertiser 2]

I think that's why he got. I don't think Will Smith slaps a B lister.

[Advertiser 1]

That'd be weird.

[Advertiser 2]

That's. That's.

[Advertiser 1]

That you just slap Christian Slater.

[Advertiser 3]

The hell's going on, first of all.

[Advertiser 2]

Exactly.

[Advertiser 3]

Don't do that to Christian Slater.

[Advertiser 1]

Of course he's an A lister. He's. He's Chris Rock. He's. He's. I mean, he can perform way on the same side. He can perform in an arena in Oslo if he wants. He's that big.

[Advertiser 3]

Oh, I agree.

[Advertiser 1]

He's world. So what's an A lister in comedy if he's not.

[Advertiser 3]

Oh, no. I say he's an A lister in comedy for sure. We were talking. I think he's an A list celebrity in general.

[Advertiser 1]

I think he tried.

[Advertiser 3]

I don't think Tom Cruise and Chris Rock are in the same sentence.

[Advertiser 2]

I don't think you can hold for the thing.

[Advertiser 1]

I mean, you know, so that was.

[Advertiser 3]

Kind of my point with the A lister in general. Like, there's nothing wrong with Chris Rock being a B lister in regular celebrity, but in comedy, of course he's a A lister.

[Advertiser 2]

I don't think he's.

[Advertiser 3]

That goes up.

[Advertiser 2]

I think Chris Rock is an A list celebrity.

[Advertiser 1]

Yeah. The guy's hosted the Oscars. I mean, he's like, he's huge. He's. I mean, he trusts he can't host.

[Advertiser 2]

The Oscars and not be an alien.

[Advertiser 1]

Any room he walks into, you'll be like, holy shit. That's Chris Rock. And he's. I love his brain, man. I love his. You know, I think he's. I think he's. He still has lines where I'm like, holy shit.

[Advertiser 3]

He's.

[Advertiser 1]

He's awesome. So, yeah, I mean, to me, he's a list. I don't know. I mean, I guess it's. It's your own.

[Advertiser 2]

And he's like, you're a delusional Knicks fan. Like yourself.

[Advertiser 1]

He's harder. You know, I saw him at a game once in the playoffs, and. And I was like, man, I'm. I'm nervous. And he goes. He goes, nervous? We're playing in June. This is the best. I was like, all right, it's a good attitude.

[Advertiser 2]

It don't get much better than this.

[Advertiser 1]

For the June, He's. He's got to be a list, I think. Yeah.

[Advertiser 3]

Did you think it was a risk when he did the live special for Netflix for the first time?

[Advertiser 1]

Me, personally, I would never do a live special. That seemed risky because I just think you hone this and you work on this thing for so long, why would you not want to edit it into being the best thing it could possibly be? I think for Chris, he's so big that it doesn't really matter to him. But for me, I would never do it because, I mean, I'm a psycho, though. I taped seven shows for one of my specials. You know, even my last one in Boston at the Wilbur, I taped four shows. So I want it to be the best thing possible. But it was probably, you know, he wants to do things that haven't been done before. Like, I heard him say once, like, you have to look at a new special, like a new iPhone. Like, what's the new feature? Brian Regan did a live special, but it was on Comedy Central, which was even crazier because he'd have to, like, pause for commercial break. So he'd be like, all right, guys, we'll be back in a sec. He's like, telling a crowd that you gotta get the momentum back.

[Advertiser 2]

This is crazy.

[Advertiser 1]

So, I mean, Rock, he wanted to do it, and. And for him, it's fine. For me, I would never do it. And I didn't see the special because I saw him live. We were in St. Louis the same night. So I just went to. He and Chappelle were there, and I was at a theater there, and I just went to go watch them afterwards. But, yeah, seen it live. It was amazing. I loved it.

[Advertiser 2]

Okay.

[Advertiser 1]

And it wasn't gonna top whatever I saw. Cause I Think seeing comedy live is always just better?

[Advertiser 2]

Oh, absolutely. My mom took me to see the Kings of Comedy when I was like. I think I was maybe 18 or 19. Who's your favorite one? I will say this. Being there live at the Garden and then seeing it once they shot it and put it all together, it's a whole different vibe.

[Advertiser 1]

Really?

[Advertiser 2]

Yeah, absolutely. But being there live, hands down, everybody was there to see Bernie Mac.

[Advertiser 1]

Yeah. I mean, he's my easy favorite.

[Advertiser 2]

Yeah. Like, it was like everybody in the Garden that night was just waiting for Bernie to hit the stage. Like, we obviously love DL and Steve was hosting and Cedric. I think Cedric surprised a lot of people. A lot of people didn't think Cedric would be that funny live. But the hands down consensus, everybody in the Garden that night was there to see Bernie Mac.

[Advertiser 1]

Yeah, Bernie was so, like, larger than life. He was so fucking funny in movies too. When he popped up in like, Bad Santa or something like that.

[Advertiser 3]

Hilarious in that movie.

[Advertiser 1]

I didn't see shitty movies. I saw Mr. 3000. I just liked him. I just like Bernie Mack.

[Advertiser 2]

Shitty movie is terrible.

[Advertiser 1]

It's pretty rough.

[Advertiser 2]

Bernie Mac is a baseball player.

[Advertiser 1]

It's a big leap. Like, this guy's at the end of his career.

[Advertiser 2]

All right, Like, I. We'll see what they're doing.

[Advertiser 1]

But no, he's. I mean, he's charming as hell. I love him and I love seeing him on, like, late night shows. I love seeing him on, like, Conan stuff. I just. Yeah, I was always a fan.

[Advertiser 2]

Yeah.

[Advertiser 3]

What was the first comedy show you went to?

[Advertiser 1]

First show I saw live was at the Comic Strip in New York. And it was like, Bill Burr was on the show, which is crazy. He had, you know, full head of red hair. And then I saw. I saw some comics at Caroline's. I saw David Tell at Carolines. Saw Chris Rock in Albany when I was pretty young. Friend. I just like, took a train to go see him in Albany. But, yeah, they were all like, incredible. I mean, Attell was doing his skanks for the Memories hour at the time. I was like, this shit's unreal. His mind was brilliant and twisted and dark, but he. What I love about Attella's jokes is he would do jokes that were like. They'd be like one liners and silly, but he'd be like, fuck, that's like a deep joke. He had a joke where he was like, I remember when you're young and you think your dad is Superman, and then you grow up and you realize he's just a Drunk who wears a cape. I was like, that's, like, a simple line, but that's, like, deep. That's, like, about disappointment and, like, your father not living up to who he's going to be. But it's just a silly one liner. Like, I. I love watching him. I thought he was brilliant. I still think he's brilliant.

[Advertiser 3]

Maybe he has to do with, like, my personality and outlook on life. Now, how I even got introduced to him was what he was on Showtime or HBO when he did the Late Night with Ava.

[Advertiser 1]

Tell, like, what was that Insomniac. That was Comedy Central.

[Advertiser 3]

So I was. I would watch Insomniac waiting for the Spice Channel to come on. I swear to God, it's a true fact. That's how I got introduced. I would watch that to wait for channel 72 that my dad had ordered with the Spice Channel.

[Advertiser 1]

You would have said.

[Advertiser 3]

I would quietly, like, make sure everyone's asleep and sit in front of the TV and watch as a child, like, 12, 13 years old and watch David Tell do that just so I could watch softcore porn. Yeah, Like, I was. It was the only thing on while I was waiting.

[Advertiser 1]

Easy today, dude.

[Advertiser 2]

Yeah, you used to have to wait to jack.

[Advertiser 3]

I earned that that night. It wasn't, you know, a vacuum.

[Advertiser 1]

You remember, like, having to rewind and fast forward VHS tapes just to get to the scene where Jamie Lee Curtis is in a bikini and. True lies. Sorry, am I. Am I saying too much here? And then unfaithful. Remember that one? Holy shit.

[Advertiser 2]

Oh, my God.

[Advertiser 3]

Pretend to be friends with the kid that just had the, like, the magazine. You knew he had it. So it was like, all right, let me. I'll hang out with you.

[Advertiser 1]

Yeah, you go with bathroom and shifts. Or worse, you fucking use a pillow to block it. You know, whichever the situation was. Yeah.

[Advertiser 2]

All right, so, Sam, you have pretty much Chris Rock running the field.

[Advertiser 1]

He's gonna win this.

[Advertiser 3]

Okay? But between Elephant in the Room and.

[Advertiser 1]

Killing Him Softly, I'm going killing him Softly for me. And I love. I love Elephant in the Room. But, you know, I think Stand Up Special sometimes is, like, when they hate you. And that was just a. That's special. I just like. These are two of my favorite specials ever. These are in my top five. Both of these. So.

[Advertiser 3]

So you're taking. Bring the pain over, Kill himself.

[Advertiser 1]

That's what I would go. Yeah, but it's tough.

[Advertiser 3]

I'm not mad at that take, but they're right there.

[Advertiser 1]

I love. I love both of them.

[Advertiser 2]

I like the fact that that is the final matchup because, you know, people always argue about who's funny between Rock and Chappelle. I think that. I don't even think it's close. I think Chris Rock. Rock is. Is a lot.

[Advertiser 1]

I think they're both phenomenal. I mean, like, I.

[Advertiser 2]

They are, but I mean, if you were going to compare them, I'm. I don't even know how people even. Just like, this is Chris Rock, bro. Like, I think that he is a lot funnier throughout his entire. We look at his history of comedy, whether it's film, whether it's standup, what Dave has done in the last few, like, few 10, 15 years. Incredible. But Chris Rock goes so far.

[Advertiser 1]

Yeah, I love them both. It's tough for me, man, because I like, I, you know, I. I still like, see them like through the. Through this lens of, like, holy. You're like a big reason I do what I do. So it's hard for me to, like, rank them. But I'm glad you made me do it one by one.

[Advertiser 3]

I'm sure they'll be in the comments with their suggestions.

[Advertiser 1]

I love all. I love.

[Advertiser 3]

Dave and Chris both watch this podcast.

[Advertiser 2]

Yeah.

[Advertiser 1]

I mean, choosing between the hardest one was still gringo, poppy and raw.

[Advertiser 3]

But I mean, we wanted to out the gate, give you that, just to see where your energy is at. I'm with you more. I think, because Dave had that mysterious allure after Chappelle's show. It added another part to that story. But if you really go through their careers, Chris was always in front of our faces. But when you go, like, break down the discography of their shit. Yeah. How could you not say Chris is not even above Dave in certain capacities?

[Advertiser 1]

I think they probably. I think they look at each other with such reverence that I think one would say the other's funnier and the other would say the. You know, I think. I think you always hear Chris say, Dave's funnier than me, but I'm sure Dave feels the opposite. Yeah.

[Advertiser 2]

I mean, that's the humble thing in him, though. Like, you gotta kinda be humble. And obviously Dave looks up to Chris. I mean, it's hard not to, but, you know, when we just looking at it, Chris has so much shit in movies and just stand up over the years. Even his. I think we talk about it often. His show, his Everybody Hates Chris. Underrated.

[Advertiser 1]

Yeah, that's funny.

[Advertiser 2]

As far as I'm concerned.

[Advertiser 3]

Even like Tambourine. I respect that. Dave took that Netflix deal and did like seven specials in three years, but Chris Is even outside of the live one. The tambourine one before is great. I know it wasn't like, bring the pain or bigger and blacker. Go rewatch tambourine. Like, it's really high level shit that he's getting at.

[Advertiser 1]

Yeah, I loved his joke in that about. About how like the cops were racist. And he's like, yeah, but you kind of just got. It's like being a pilot, it. You got to. You just got to not do that, you know, keep. Be like, here at American Airlines, we land most of our planes. Which, by the way, that joke's not as funny anymore.

[Advertiser 3]

Manifested it.

[Advertiser 1]

I was like, holy, I'm so glad I'm on a bus right now, but I still have to fly to some of these cities to even get on the bus. And you're just like, what the. Why are planes landing upside down? What the hell is happening? Like, we were on a plane. We were on a plane going New York City to Rochester a few years ago, just Gary and I, and we thought it was gonna crash. It was fucking horrifying. Like, you know, it was one of those small ones, tiny plane. This is how it starts. A woman steals my seat.

[Advertiser 2]

Other if I say a woman was.

[Advertiser 1]

Flying, I mean, don't get. I mean, that could have been even worse. But no, no, there was a woman who stole my seat. And I was kind of like, hey, can. It's my seat. I just, you know. Cause I booked Gary and I together and she was like, I'm sitting here. And I was like, like, no, it's definitely my seat. And I was kind of like, reason with her, but I was like, it's a 40 minute flight.

[Advertiser 2]

What am I doing? Whatever.

[Advertiser 1]

So we were in the air and it's like 35 minutes. I'm sitting right in front of them because I went to an open seat. But 35 minutes into the 40 minute flight, the plane just like drops. It starts shaking. It's horrifying. And Gary and I look at each other like I can read his mind. We're like old friends.

[Advertiser 2]

Like that.

[Advertiser 1]

Where I'm like, I know he's thinking the same thing as me. And I later confirmed that it was like he was, yeah, fuck this lady. She deprived us of our last 35 minutes together on Earth. We're gonna die. It was that scary. It was shaking. And then she just lets out a scream, like. And without hesitation, we turned and started laughing in her face. And it was like the most satisfying moment of my adult life that he had the same comic instinct as me. But also that it makes you realize, oh, laughing is just temporarily forgetting about death.

[Advertiser 2]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Advertiser 1]

That's all it is. Because we forgot we were gonna die for like 30 seconds. Then we were like, oh, and then. But then he. The pilot saved. I assume he. Sorry, right? But saved the day and.

[Advertiser 3]

Straight white male.

[Advertiser 1]

But no, it was terrifying. I mean, it was. And you think about that all. Anytime you have turbulence, you're like, is this how I'm going to go out?

[Advertiser 2]

Yeah.

[Advertiser 3]

It would have been more beautiful if she was the only one that died. Because she was in that.

[Advertiser 1]

We were rooting for it.

[Advertiser 3]

Like, if it did go down and she was the only one that didn't survive and she took your seat, like there would be some poetry or the.

[Advertiser 2]

Opposite side of that seat just exploded. Sam survives and she dies.

[Advertiser 1]

It's like, I don't want Gary to die.

[Advertiser 3]

Yeah, no, we want Gary. I don't know Gary. But in this scenario, I wanted his friend to live.

[Advertiser 1]

No, we've been on like, dude, we. We did a. Before we did the tour bus, this run. We did a sprinter van the first few nights because the bus is so expensive. I was just like, cut corners. But this is what I get for cutting corners. We're driving from God, it must have been like Charlotte to Richmond or something. And three, four hour drive, the driver falls asleep at the wheel. He drives us off the fucking road. And Gary and I are like, wake up. And the guy's like, oh, fuck. We nearly. We wouldn't have been. We were watching the movie the Substance on my computer, that Demi Moore movie, and we did not like it. And that kept us awake. So if we weren't watching that, I think, yes, I think we would have died.

[Advertiser 2]

That is crazy.

[Advertiser 3]

There was no Walmart truck in sight. You couldn't Morgan it at all. At least it'd be worth it. Is he okay?

[Advertiser 2]

Cuz he threw another night. He threw up at the Knicks.

[Advertiser 1]

He said it was food poisoning, but yeah, Tracy, that was a lot of food poisoning. Yeah.

[Advertiser 3]

I mean, his response, his response when he posted, he said, The Knicks are 1 and 0. When I throw up, that's not bad. Which I thought was a great, great way to reply to everything.

[Advertiser 1]

Knicks fan looks at it. Yeah. Tracy is. He's amazing.

[Advertiser 2]

Because they said his nose was bleeding. I was like, oh. Because I laughed. I was like, tracy got drunk at a Knicks game, like in the first quarter, like, what the. How do you do that? His nose was bleeding. I was like, okay, that sounds.

[Advertiser 3]

Yeah, it looked like some health.

[Advertiser 1]

It also felt like a Tracy 30 Rock storyline too. Like Liz Lemons. Like. Like the time you puked at msg and he was like, what? Same with Alec Baldwin. You see that thing with his wife too?

[Advertiser 3]

It's like, oh, that's the thing you're talking about.

[Advertiser 1]

What?

[Advertiser 3]

Oh, never mind. Did you see the thing? Yeah, no, I saw it.

[Advertiser 1]

No, there's like a viral video of his wife yelling at. At him in front of like, she got that from him maybe, but he would do it in a more like, understandable way. She was almost like worse. She was a more snippy. I was like, jesus Christ. She seems like a lot.

[Advertiser 2]

He has. Is it. Is it a top five?

[Advertiser 3]

There's. There's Mel Gibson's voice note or whatever.

[Advertiser 2]

Legendary.

[Advertiser 1]

Yeah.

[Advertiser 3]

Alec Baldwin's yelling at his wife and daughter. That's top five yells that I've ever heard.

[Advertiser 1]

Rude, thoughtless little pig.

[Advertiser 3]

Yeah, that's.

[Advertiser 1]

That's a good one. That was a good track.

[Advertiser 2]

You know what?

[Advertiser 3]

I was a little jealous that he. You could tell that was off the top. Like, he didn't rehearse that.

[Advertiser 2]

That. That's one of my favorite shows. Dog the Bounty Hunter had a good one too. He had a good.

[Advertiser 3]

I'm sure he did.

[Advertiser 2]

Good voicemail. He left his. His daughter was dating a black guy. I think he didn't like that.

[Advertiser 1]

Remember when he tried to come. He had tried to make a comeback during that Brian Laundry murder. He's like dogs on the case. We're like, no, we didn't ask for this.

[Advertiser 2]

We're good dog. We don't need you.

[Advertiser 1]

We're all set. Yeah, he what a comeback and then his wife died and he just replaced it with another fat pair of tits. That was another.

[Advertiser 3]

Which I didn't even notice she. I thought it was the same woman. It's like, no, no, that's a hoe.

[Advertiser 2]

Rest in peace to Beth, man. I was a big fan.

[Advertiser 1]

Were you really a fan?

[Advertiser 2]

I love dog.

[Advertiser 1]

Did it hurt when you heard the racist outburst?

[Advertiser 2]

I laughed. I laughed. Yeah, that. Like, that doesn't.

[Advertiser 3]

Yeah, I feel like that. And maybe like Hulk Hogan. You were like, no, I already knew. So it's.

[Advertiser 2]

I knew all for years. But now you guys know.

[Advertiser 1]

Handlebar, bleached, blonde mustache. Yeah. Probably not great. Yeah.

[Advertiser 3]

Nothing about this guy. Guy says progression before we get out of here and before we get off. Sprinter talk. How would you feel if you were on tour with a co host or someone that you work with and you didn't know while you were in the sprinter van? They were Going to decide to take a whole new route just to get their nails done. And you are now in the middle.

[Advertiser 2]

No, it wasn't.

[Advertiser 3]

No, no, no. There's another person on the mic over here. You thought you were on your way to Philly and you ended up in a small town in New Jersey that looked like a third world country at that. And now you're thinking the same sprint. The sprinter van driver is setting us up and ready to kill us.

[Advertiser 1]

Yes. Like season four soprano.

[Advertiser 3]

Exactly. Then we pull her and she goes, oh, I'm just about to get my nails done. How would you feel in that, this completely made up scenario?

[Advertiser 1]

I wouldn't.

[Advertiser 3]

This never happened.

[Advertiser 1]

I wouldn't be thrilled. I'd be like, why are we here?

[Advertiser 2]

That's what we said. Is it.

[Advertiser 1]

Is it a part of Jersey that's crazy close to Philly?

[Advertiser 4]

It was not even Jersey. It was in. Allegedly. It was in Philadelphia. It was like it was 20 minutes.

[Advertiser 3]

Away, 30 minutes away, but like one of those, like dirty, dirty suburbs of.

[Advertiser 1]

So you just had to wait while you got your nails done?

[Advertiser 2]

No, they dropped off, but we didn't know we were making that stop. So the driver's going through these streets and we're like, this is not the.

[Advertiser 3]

Way to find out.

[Advertiser 1]

You took a 40 minute Uber or something.

[Advertiser 4]

No, but this is the thing. When I looked it up, it said it was 15 minutes away. But my brain didn't account for the traffic of the festival and midday and everything. So what was supposed to be 15 minutes actually turned into 30 minutes. So it made it look like I took them 30 minutes out the way when it was just supposed to be 15 minutes on the way. And that is where the issue was.

[Advertiser 1]

Sounds like an honest mistake. It is a morale killer though. Let's be real. You need to keep morale up here. I think like Russell Crowe.

[Advertiser 4]

The whole weekend, the whole weekend, everyone was so mean to me.

[Advertiser 3]

The worst was, I think mall woke up when we pulled over and looked at me for reassurance, like, I knew what the was going on. I was like, no, I think we might. We're about to die.

[Advertiser 2]

I think it's one of those streets where every building looks like the set of like some type of like Hollywood studio. None of these builders look. It looks like it's just the front.

[Advertiser 3]

No way someone lives here. Running water.

[Advertiser 2]

One of those blocks. And I'm like, we were going to Philadelphia. I've never seen this part of Philadelphia. Like, oh, no, we're 15, 20 minutes outside of Philly. I'm like, okay, well, what are we doing?

[Advertiser 1]

It would stress me out.

[Advertiser 2]

And then, not only that I was on the side. I didn't want to leave her there. I'm like, are you sure this is okay? Like, we just. You're getting off this van and then we're supposed to pull off.

[Advertiser 3]

There has to be another nail salon.

[Advertiser 2]

There was literally nobody outside. Like, there was no people walking on the sidewalks. It was nobody outside. And it's like three in the afternoon. I'm like, are you safe over here? Like, that's. That was the. The concern for me. I didn't care that we were outside of where we were going. I was like, yo, there's nobody outside. Where are you? And it was next to a funeral home.

[Advertiser 4]

It was next to a funeral.

[Advertiser 3]

I was like, what?

[Advertiser 2]

What is this?

[Advertiser 1]

The same guy who's embalming the bodies is doing your nails? Doing like a Dunkin Donuts, Baskin Robbins?

[Advertiser 3]

Saving another trip. Kill us and then just put us here. Here.

[Advertiser 2]

All right, Sam, so you're on the road, upcoming shows. April 10, you are in Columbus. April 12, you in Grand Rapids. April 13, Milwaukee. April 14, you are in Madison.

[Advertiser 1]

Yeah, that's a Monday, Madison. Thanks for putting me in a huge venue agent.

[Advertiser 2]

April 15, De Moines. And April 17, Peach's favorite city hometown.

[Advertiser 3]

Kansas City, Missouri, or Kansas side, Missouri. Oh, okay.

[Advertiser 1]

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