Episode 359 | Breeding Fetish

Summary

Podcast Summary: New Rory & MAL - Episode 359 | Breeding Fetish

Release Date: April 4, 2025

In Episode 359 of New Rory & MAL, hosts Rory and Mal delve into a variety of engaging topics, blending humor with insightful discussions. This episode, titled "Breeding Fetish," navigates through subjects ranging from celebrity tours and relationship dynamics to parenting challenges and the intricacies of podcasting. Below is a detailed summary structured into clear sections, highlighting key points and notable quotes with timestamps.

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1. Men and Flowers: Challenging Stereotypes

The episode opens with a light-hearted debate between Rory and Mal about whether men should receive flowers and how often.

• Mal (02:36): "Men receive flowers. Right."
• Rory (02:55): "I believe we should receive flowers every day of the week for everything we do for the world, right?"

The conversation evolves into a humorous exchange where Mal contemplates gifting Rory metaphorical flowers, leading to a playful banter about product endorsements tied to flowers.

2. Chris Brown's Stadium Tour: Talent and Marketability

Rory and Mal shift focus to the music industry, specifically discussing Chris Brown's ambitious "Breezy Bowl Chris Brown Stadium World Tour Peach."

• Rory (04:11): "But I am looking forward to this. I think this is going to be an incredible, incredible show."
• Mal (04:44): "I think we're going to have one of the best R&B shows, probably of the last."

They debate whether Chris Brown’s talent alone justifies stadium tours or if his collaborations with artists like Summer Walker and Bryson Tiller are necessary to fill large venues. Rory points out:

• Rory (05:31): "Jay Z needs Beyoncé to do stadiums, even Kendrick and SZA need each other. Selling stadiums is insane."

The hosts commend Chris Brown for attempting to break into a predominantly pop arena with an R&B-focused tour, highlighting the significant production required for such large-scale performances.

3. Child Support Controversy: Anthony Edwards and Breeding Fetish

A substantial portion of the episode addresses the sensitive topic of child support, particularly focusing on Anthony Edwards and the notion of a "breeding fetish."

• Rory (25:30): "I found out that's a thing."
• Mal (25:53): "Listen, man, if you don't want a kid with somebody and they end up pregnant, you should have that conversation."

The hosts define a breeding fetish as:

"A strong attraction to the idea of getting or getting someone else pregnant. Frequently involves the risky feeling of potentially permanent consequences from a sexual act."

They express concern over how some men may prioritize financial settlements over active parental involvement, using Anthony Edwards as a case study. The discussion emphasizes the emotional and psychological impacts on children resulting from such arrangements.

• Mal (26:38): "But it is a conversation to have, especially with men who are better off financially."
• Rory (40:01): "All money's not good money."

The conversation underscores the importance of responsible parenting and the potential long-term effects on family dynamics when financial transactions overshadow emotional bonds.

4. Parenting Challenges: Balancing Responsibilities

Rory and Mal explore the difficulties faced by parents, especially single or young fathers, in managing childcare alongside personal and professional responsibilities.

• Rory (56:11): "And it sounds like this wasn't a father. He didn't have a car. That's why."
• Mal (57:13): "He's trying to get his stuff together, trying to be responsible."

They discuss a scenario where a father leaves his children at a McDonald's playroom to attend a job interview, debating the morality and practicality of such decisions. The hosts sympathize with the father's predicament while highlighting the risks involved in leaving young children unattended.

5. Business and Podcasting: Navigating the Changing Landscape

The hosts transition to the business side of podcasting, mentioning the challenges faced by prominent podcasters like Adam 22 of the No Jumper podcast amid financial strains and operational changes.

• Mal (75:22): "Anybody that's laughing at Adam or whatever, they just don't know what it takes to build a business."
• Rory (70:24): "He was trying to grow an entire network and a platform which required all the people that he hired and the space that he needed."

Rory and Mal commend Adam 22 for his transparency during business downsizing and discuss the broader implications for content creators in an evolving digital landscape. They stress the importance of adaptability and financial intelligence in sustaining podcast ventures.

6. Relationships and Communication: Navigating Modern Dating

Towards the episode's end, Josh shares a voicemail seeking advice on handling a distant partner after an initial phase of engaging, flirty interactions.

• Josh (114:07): "So I met this cute guy... now I feel like I have to wait for him to reach out to me."
• Mal (117:55): "Just text like, hey, how are you... hopefully everything's cool."

Rory and Mal offer practical advice on maintaining communication without appearing overly eager, emphasizing the balance between showing interest and respecting personal boundaries. They discuss common pitfalls in modern dating, such as misinterpretations of communication styles and the psychological impacts of perceived disinterest.

7. Movie Discussions: War Films and Their Portrayals

The trio engages in a lively discussion about various war movies, analyzing their realism, portrayal of military personnel, and emotional impact.

• Rory (96:08): "Top Gun 2 is incredible... but sometimes I have to deal with the aftermath in real life."
• Mal (99:18): "Mission Impossible... great movies."

They critique films like Lone Survivor and Pearl Harbor, debating their accuracies and emotional resonance. The conversation extends to the perception of armed forces portrayed in media versus their real-life counterparts, highlighting the importance of authentic storytelling in film.

8. Closing Remarks: Reflections and Sign-Off

As the episode concludes, Rory, Mal, and Josh reflect on the diverse topics discussed, reinforcing the podcast's commitment to blending humor with meaningful conversations. They sign off with well-wishes to their listeners, sharing plans for future discussions and interactions.

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Notable Quotes:

• Rory (02:55): "I believe we should receive flowers every day of the week for everything we do for the world."
• Mal (04:44): "I think we're going to have one of the best R&B shows, probably of the last."
• Rory (25:30): "I found out that's a thing."
• Mal (25:53): "Listen, man, if you don't want a kid with somebody and they end up pregnant, you should have that conversation."
• Josh (114:07): "Why are guys like this?"
• Mal (117:55): "Just text like, hey, how are you... hopefully everything's cool."

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Conclusion: Episode 359 of New Rory & MAL exemplifies the podcast's dynamic mix of humor, candid discussions, and thoughtful insights. From challenging societal norms around gender and relationships to dissecting the complexities of modern parenting and the business of podcasting, Rory, Mal, and Josh deliver a rich and engaging conversation that resonates with a broad audience. Their ability to navigate sensitive topics with a blend of seriousness and levity makes this episode both entertaining and informative for listeners.

Transcript

[Rory]

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[Mal]

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[Rory]

You mean the beanbag chair?

[Mal]

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[Rory]

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[Mal]

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[Rory]

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[Mal]

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[Rory]

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[Mal]

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[Mal]

New worry and mouth Rory do you believe men should receive flowers? And how often do you think men.

[Rory]

Should receive flowers every day? I believe we should receive flowers every day of the week for everything we.

[Mal]

Do for the world, right?

[Rory]

Constantly. Yes.

[Mal]

You don't see enough. Men receive flowers. Right. So today I'm here to ask you.

[Rory]

Are you giving me flowers?

[Mal]

No. No.

[Rory]

Is that what this was? Oh, man, thank you.

[Mal]

I'll give you some flowers as well. I mean, flowers to you, Rory. You know, I don't mind giving you some flowers, my brother, like a metaphor.

[Rory]

Are you really going to give me some flowers?

[Mal]

You want me to. I could buy you a bouquet. You want me to order a bouquet.

[Rory]

For you have been told. You guys, maybe you didn't think I was serious. One of my hobbies is arranging flowers.

[Mal]

You like a hydrangea type of guy? Yeah, like hydrangeas.

[Rory]

Yeah, especially this. This time of year.

[Mal]

Okay, so I'll get you a nice hydrangea, like, assortment. Different.

[Rory]

Add some hydro in there, too.

[Mal]

Yeah, some. Oh, definitely send that. You know, I can sit.

[Rory]

I can send those flowers. I know you have.

[Mal]

I can send that pack.

[Rory]

Yeah, well, I went to go see somebody. They gave me $200 worth of product for free just off Mal's name. I was like, God damn.

[Mal]

Listen, man, you know, you my guy.

[Rory]

When they were the cast, it was like, nah, nah, nah. He went mall.

[Mal]

I was like, no good. I was like, damn, your money's no good here, Rory. I made the call. You're good. Your family don't. No worries about the money.

[Rory]

Those were great flowers. So I thank you for that.

[Mal]

All right, well, today I need my flowers.

[Rory]

Okay.

[Mal]

Because I meant to. I meant to bring it up the other day when I saw you.

[Rory]

I like the Nokia video, too.

[Mal]

No, no, no. Great video. But. But that's not. That's. That's. That's passe. We don't even have to talk about that. I'm here to receive my flowers. About Chris Brown doing a stadium tour, which you said that he could never ever do because his talent level doesn't come.

[Rory]

I'm with exaggerating for content.

[Mal]

Hold on, let me talk. You said his talent level wasn't there was. It was subpar talent level. He needed Lil baby to sell. These are all of the things you say. And lo and behold, I think Chris heard you or heard us.

[Rory]

Yes.

[Mal]

And now he is here with the Breezy Bowl Chris Brown Stadium World Tour Peach. Round of applause for Chris Brown.

[Rory]

Oh, absolutely. First of all, round applause. Absolutely. That. That is incredible to do stadiums for sure. Chris Brown featuring Summer Walker and Bryson Tiller. Yes.

[Mal]

Because he needs Summer Walker and Bryson Tiller to sell tickets. Yes.

[Rory]

No, not to sell tickets. And this is incredible. I don't even really remember. Remember exactly what I said with Chris Brown in stadiums. But probably what I say about most artists, you can't sell a stadium tour out by yourself.

[Mal]

Oh, well, you said Quavo was hotter.

[Rory]

Well, I mean, yeah, Quavo wouldn't need Summer or Bryson.

[Mal]

Well, he wouldn't get a stadium tour. I could promise you that. He wouldn't have a stadium tour either. But I am looking forward to this. I think this is going to be an incredible, incredible show. Chris Brown obviously is one of the greatest entertainers, performers, artists that we have to see him do a world tour in stadiums in Europe and here in North America. I'm definitely looking forward to that. I think we're going to have a long. What is it? Summer? August. Around that time. End of summer.

[Rory]

August, End of September. But to note as well, to give Breezy more credit, Summer Walker is only for the North America shows.

[Mal]

Okay.

[Rory]

But after he did the 02 for like a month, I mean, I think, yes, I will happily say Chris Brown can do stadiums in Europe by himself.

[Mal]

For sure.

[Rory]

When you do the O2 for a month. Yeah, you can do this. But I mean, I'm happy for him. It takes a lot. The same way I said Jay Z needs Beyonce to do stadiums, even this isn't a shot at anyone. Kendrick and SZA need each other. Selling stadiums is insane. That's a very, very, very difficult thing to do. And granted, I'm not saying that he needs Summer per se, but you need some support. But to even be on a tour where you would be the headliner for a stadium is insane.

[Mal]

Absolutely.

[Rory]

And I love 20 years of CB. I'm sure that set is going to be crazy how long he's. He's been around.

[Mal]

Yeah. But I think I want to catch one of those shows out in. In the uk.

[Rory]

I would definitely pay. Pay for the. The one in Jersey. I forgot who was in here on Monday. Was it Benner? Somebody was like, yeah, we were in touch with Chris Brown's team about maybe sitting down and doing like an interview at like a D.C. date. Just, you know, banter back and forth. I was like, I mean, Maul could probably take that one.

[Mal]

You don't want to sit down.

[Josh]

And it was definitely Benner. Benner sent me a offer about like, hey, can you, you know, I have some money. Somebody has some money for you to do a TikTok to one of these Songs just as promo, like they do with artists. And I was like, I think I'm gonna sit that one out.

[Rory]

Oh, it's for Chris Rock.

[Josh]

I think I'm gonna sit that one out. Better than that.

[Rory]

We would have part two. Part two of Damaris Dancer.

[Josh]

I learned my lesson. I said, you know what? No, I'm okay.

[Rory]

All money's not good money.

[Josh]

Thank you so much.

[Rory]

Even though I know Chris Brown, they would 1,000% take that.

[Josh]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Rory]

Go dancing, amigos. Why you dancing cool?

[Josh]

I said, no, I'm cool. Thank you so much.

[Rory]

That's funny. But I don't know, one day I'll have. I'll have Sean dead that I just have to test the waters. I don't think Chris Brown is mad at me, but the way that took off and then that had him and. And Quavo going back and forth in IG comments. I just feel like some people don't remember what you said, just how it made them feel.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

So Chris Brown may not even remember what the words were, but he just like, he said some.

[Mal]

I can't remember what remembers that face. That face in those. You don't remember the words, but he remembers the face.

[Rory]

That happens to me in this podcast genre media. I'll be out sometimes and I'll see someone that I don't have like a real relationship with to the point that I never stored what they actually said about me. There's just something in my brain. They said something. I can't remember what it is because I didn't care that much.

[Mal]

I made a coofool. I got like a koofy list in my notes in my. In my phone.

[Josh]

Yeah, people, you gotta knock their kufy.

[Mal]

Off, not knock their kofi. But they on a koofy list. Like, I don't fuck with you because sometimes you'll see people give them that and then you lead a function. Like, wait, I don't even. I gave him. I don't with him.

[Rory]

We don't even have to go through the list. Is there anyone on there that I would be surprised by?

[Mal]

Surprised by? No, I don't think he'd be surprised by anything. Okay.

[Rory]

I don't know. Yeah, sometimes we be having private beefs. We don't tell people.

[Mal]

No, no, there's no beef. I don't have beef with nobody. But I'm just, you know, there's certain people that I would never shake hands with and never say what's up to. And that's all. But it's not beef.

[Josh]

Should you Keep your beefs like mysterious, like.

[Mal]

Yeah, you should keep your beef like in a crock pot.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

On low, let it simmer, you know, I mean, if people smell it, they smell it.

[Rory]

But if I like actually have real beef with somebody. No, I'm not going to talk about it. No, you know, I mean, they'll probably know because beef doesn't just come out of nowhere. They know.

[Mal]

They did some talk about beefs you have, because when it's time to cook that beef, you don't. You know me for shit.

[Rory]

That's not serious. Yeah, you talk about that shit on the Internet.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Now the real ones, I forgot what episode. I think we had just gotten here and you asked, one of you guys asked if there was ever real beef with somebody that you would put hands on. And I said, at this point in my life, there's only two people and you guys have no idea who they are. So. Yeah, those, those you just keep to the side.

[Mal]

Yeah, it's probably two for me.

[Rory]

But the world knows.

[Josh]

Yo, can we relax?

[Mal]

The world knows.

[Josh]

We're three minutes in.

[Mal]

Yeah, not the world. No, I'm just saying, you know what, Letting people know that the world knows.

[Rory]

That's all I will say though. The three, Chris, Summer and Bryson, like, that's a show.

[Mal]

You.

[Rory]

You show up on time like one of the doors.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Everyone from all three of these fan bases are going to come together. This is going to be one of the best R B shows, probably of the last.

[Mal]

However, it makes a lot of sense to have Bryson with his catalog and obviously the songs that he has, we saw when he was out, he was in New York. Was he at Brooklyn? Was it Brooklyn still?

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

And I told you when some of the clips came out and I was like, damn, he's performing joint all Terminal 5. He's performing joints from his first album. And I mean, everybody had their phones out. Everybody was. It was standing room only, probably. I was like, the fact that Bryson can still perform his first album and still get the reaction that he gets from his fan base is incredible. So seeing him on the breezy Bold tour makes sense. And then also, if you ever seen Summer Walker live, y'all teased me about going to Toronto to see her show, but her first album, to me over.

[Rory]

It, classic to me, that'll go crazy in stadium. Trap Soul will go crazy in the stadium. And again, it's the 20 year anniversary of CB, so it'll be younger but also an adult crowd as well that was in their 20s for trap soul or came up On Summer. Like this is gonna be a show.

[Mal]

No, I'm looking forward to this. I'm definitely looking forward to this show. Obviously, we know with Chris Brown. Chris Brown seems like he's always on tour or on a stage. Very seldom do you not see Chris Brown performing somewhere. So I think this is probably gonna be his most memorable, most special tour. Because obviously it's a stadium tour in Europe and in north. So I don't think we've seen. Have we seen anybody from R and B do this ever a stadium tour?

[Rory]

Depends what. I guess what you would call R and B. Pop is what we've seen. Yeah. I mean, but Chris is pop too though.

[Mal]

He's definitely pop.

[Rory]

So I mean we've seen it, but not. This is very R and B focused in a time when R and B.

[Mal]

Selling black pop artists. No, we've seen the Backstreet Boys in Sync. We've seen.

[Rory]

You know, has Usher ever done stadiums or just arenas?

[Mal]

I mean, he's performed. I don't know. He's. He's. I don't think he's ever done a stadium tour. Yeah, but you know, Usher obviously can do a stadium tour as well.

[Rory]

Beyonce. But again, more pop. Yeah, this, this is, this is a big thing.

[Mal]

This is a special thing, man.

[Rory]

I'd rather give Chris the flowers than you. But yes, I mean I, I will stand.

[Mal]

Correct.

[Rory]

Flowers is like in gassing some of my words. Yes, I'll stand corrected. But I mean we could reach out to justice. If you want to go to Toronto to see Summer again, just like for tradition. Then we could ride on the bus to Montreal with them then from Boston. Actually, no, we could start in Jersey. Jersey, Philly, Toronto. Your passport.

[Mal]

Good. On summer's tour bus.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Okay, we'll get a bunk.

[Rory]

We'll just, we'll switch.

[Mal]

Nah, nah.

[Josh]

Still together.

[Mal]

Tour bus days is over for me.

[Rory]

Sleeping together on a, on a tour bus bunk. That's nuts.

[Mal]

Yeah, that's just not happening. But definitely looking forward to the show. I think it's gonna be special. And you know, I'm pretty sure that all of these stadium shows will sell out.

[Josh]

I hope he performs the entire self titled album. Like being that it's 20 years, like we just need that from top to bottom. That's still my favorite.

[Mal]

I don't think he'll do the entire album. I think he's going to do probably pick a handful from each project. Again, the show that he has together now, probably add some more songs to that. I think obviously stadium tour. The production has to be bigger. I think that's going to be the biggest change we'll see. And then also adding different songs to the set list. But the biggest difference from any Chris Brown show will be, obviously, the production to match the size of a stadium.

[Rory]

I mean, shit, he owes the IRS some shit. I get why he launched this. They're going to keep the overhead, probably. We know Chris Brown knows how to put on his show, but I don't know, instead of 20 dancers, it might be 10.

[Mal]

No, he's a little less smoke.

[Rory]

Little less.

[Mal]

He's going to need more. Nah, you got to fill that stage, man.

[Rory]

He can fill the stage. I'm saying the overhead for production is going to be a little lower. Like, you may just get fire on the first part of the set, and then he's just gonna be doing backflips to fill in the time.

[Mal]

I think. I think he going all out. I think this is.

[Rory]

I'm sure.

[Mal]

I'm sure this is gonna be a special thing, man. So I think this is. This is gonna be Chris Brown on, obviously, the biggest stages that we've ever seen.

[Rory]

And, I mean, just perfect timing with the summer as well, like, to do stadiums.

[Mal]

Makes sense. Yeah.

[Rory]

This. This is one of those I'll buy tickets for. And maybe in another city, maybe. I don't know if I'm gonna go full Europe, like mall, but I don't know. Atlanta might be a lot of fun.

[Mal]

I just said the London show. You said full Europe. I just said.

[Rory]

Well, you're. You're there already. No, and Europe's like the size of a strip mall, so you might as well just go for the circuit.

[Mal]

Just London.

[Rory]

You wouldn't want to do Atlanta.

[Mal]

Stadium in Atlanta. Yeah, that just sounds like a. I.

[Rory]

Saw the Donda show there.

[Josh]

Sounds like a lot.

[Mal]

Yeah, it's just a lot, man. Getting in the stadium, getting out the stadium, out the park. It's just a lot.

[Rory]

No, not. That's actually a good stadium as far as, like, where it is in the city. You can, like, stay at the hotel and walk to that. It's not like East Rutherford, where you're in the middle of nowhere. That stadium is like downtown Atlanta.

[Mal]

Yeah. No, no, you can walk. Yeah, just London. And that's it. Y'all can have North America.

[Rory]

I mean, what if lvrn has the.

[Mal]

Box and, like, they'll have a box in London. Oh, no. Well, someone won't be there. She won't be in line.

[Rory]

Exactly.

[Josh]

So you can't miss summer.

[Mal]

I'll hit Chris. Don't worry about it.

[Rory]

Yo, am I allowed to tell the other R and B songstress story from this week? I was a little. A little shocked by Mal's. Mal's game over this week. Okay, Dare I say, you were not pussy. But it was an act of pussiness. It didn't embody who you were. But just that move with the setup. I mean, I thought you really loved her. Now I'm starting to question your love for this woman for God knows how many years.

[Mal]

No, you can.

[Rory]

Since the beginning of time, you've been through ups and downs with her. You defended her when it wasn't cool to defend her.

[Mal]

Absolutely.

[Rory]

We had one of Mal's crushes and favorite R B singers in our studio on Tuesday night. Went to dinner with her, listened to her new project at the office. And on my way to dinner, I'm like, yo, mom, I'm linking up with her for dinner. Like, you want to come through? And he was like, oh, nah, you know, I'm getting my wheelbarrow fixed. Or like, you know, one of those weird excuses that he has.

[Mal]

And then I was at Whole Foods. It was grocery shopping.

[Rory]

I was like, no, but there's food here. Then I said, oh, we're actually gonna go to the studio after to go listen to the project if you want to come to, like, the office.

[Mal]

Right.

[Rory]

And then I think there was no. No answer at that point.

[Mal]

Well, that's not exactly how it went. You said, I'm with Sabrina, and I forgot. What? I said something funny. I was like, oh, tell her. Well, I said, tell her.

[Rory]

Can I read it?

[Josh]

As in Claudio?

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Oh, I was like, tell her I love her and I can't see myself in the world without her, Even though I've been in the world mad years without her.

[Rory]

Yeah, tell her I love her and I can't see myself in a world without her.

[Mal]

Gangster.

[Rory]

Which she said, I'm single and mall still didn't come.

[Mal]

That's how you gotta do it sometimes, you. Single word. All right? Be that.

[Rory]

You can't play hard to get when you never got.

[Mal]

I wasn't playing hard to get.

[Rory]

You've been playing hard to get for five years.

[Mal]

Nah, I love Sabrina Claire. I think she's talented, she's beautiful. I will. If I wasn't.

[Rory]

She's a really good person, too.

[Mal]

Yeah. If I wasn't busy, I definitely would have came through to listen to the project and just to meet her, obviously, you know, been supporting her for a lot of years and listening to her music. So Shout out to Sabrina Claudio.

[Rory]

Yeah, we'll have. Dropping something new soon, and we'll have her on the pod as well next time they're back here and when they actually put the music out. But it sounded great. Sounded really, really good. I'm excited.

[Mal]

Brina's dope, man. She's. I haven't. I don't think I've seen her live yet, though.

[Rory]

Okay. I saw her at Radio City, and that's when I was like, oh, this is what canceled looks like.

[Mal]

Yeah. And then when we saw Daniel Caesar at the Scotiabank arena, we said the same thing. Like, oh, he's canceled.

[Rory]

Everyone that's canceled are selling tickets.

[Mal]

Exactly. A bunch of stupid shit.

[Rory]

But, yeah, that was. That was pretty much it this week. Damaris, you're also. Well, no. You were outside the past weekend. I'm sure you slept this whole week.

[Josh]

I am, like, quite literally never outside. I just made that up. I've been home. I've been editing. I lost the memory card. I'm not in the greatest of moods.

[Rory]

Ah, got you.

[Mal]

How'd you lose a memory card?

[Josh]

Because I took it out here, and I. I dropped it somewhere, and it's tiny, but it has all cooking content. And cooking content, like, you change angles 15 times.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Josh]

It's the hardest content to film. Like, it was just me sitting up there talking about absolutely nothing. I wouldn't care. But that. That was difficult.

[Rory]

We didn't have the cleaning people in here. That was. Got to be somewhere in here.

[Josh]

No, it's literally this big. We could have swept it up. Anything could have happened, so I don't think anyone.

[Mal]

Well, one thing I could promise you is that we don't sweep. So wherever you dropped it at, it's still there.

[Rory]

Cleaning this place before Amar's birthday was hell. That was the setup. Like, we really need cleaning people in here weekly.

[Mal]

Well, they came in and they did a good job while we were going, so thank you for that.

[Rory]

But also this week, we just did an interview for Don't Know Ball with Victor Cruz.

[Mal]

Yeah. Shout out. I got the Cruz Don't Know Ball out.

[Rory]

Now he finally addressed the Miami boat situation, which was fun to get to the bottom of. Talk some Eli Manning shit. Some Odell shit.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Jay Z, Roc Nation. So it was just a cool conversation. I just like Vic as a person. Like, outside of him being a legend for the Giants.

[Mal]

Yeah, Vic is. He's. He's one of the few football players that kind of, like, ruin the stereotype.

[Rory]

That I have that Puerto Ricans can't play football.

[Mal]

Well, that too, but you know just how they are overly aggressive when they're hanging out partying.

[Rory]

Oh, that's not him at all though.

[Mal]

But no, but Vick at least he agreed with what I said. He was like, oh no, you're absolutely 1,000% correct. But it is. You know, anytime you see Vick out, he beats all the stereotypes of football players. He's very cool, very laid back, very chill, just a great all around person and it's always nothing but respect and love anytime we see each other. So shout out to Victor Cruz for Don't know Ball available now. Check that out.

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Plus you can even have your groceries delivered or use Drive up And go to have your groceries brought to your car at the store. Restrictions and exclusions applied. Visit Albertsons or Safeway.com for more details. Speaking of athletes, I do want to give a shout out to a young king. Rumble, young man. Rumble. Anthony Edwards. Let's get a round of applause.

[Mal]

Yes.

[Rory]

Big move. Big move in father history.

[Mal]

Ant Man. I didn't think it was gonna be Ant man to do it. Ant man doesn't get enough in the Marvel series. Ant man don't get enough appreciation. We gotta start giving Ant man more love in the Marvel series, man.

[Rory]

Already a legend in two games.

[Mal]

Oh, my God. On and off the court. I mean, what are we talking about here, man? Shout out to Anthony Edwards. He's been going through a child support situation over his. One of his. Because I'm reading that he has two more on the way. He has three kids by three different baby mothers or four kids by. And let me start with this. Condoms. Either that or a vasectomy. You might wanna look into a vasectomy. And I understand that you probably are, you know, have a wide array of options now that you are an NBA superstar, you're an Adidas superstar. You're probably gonna make close to a billion dollars before your playing career is over. But you don't wanna look up and look back and, you know, just made a bunch of kids with a bunch of women that you really didn't love or care about and have, you know.

[Rory]

We'Ve seen the leaked text messages. He loves all of them.

[Mal]

Yeah, but like, just takes all of them serious. Listen, man, if you don't want to wear condom, I know a lot of my homies that, you know, play ball, they play professional sports. A few of them, few of them have gotten a vasectomy. Just get the, just get the, you know, get the nip and tuck, man, and then you can reverse it. When you're ready. Yeah, when you're ready to have some kids, you could turn the faucet back on. But yeah, man, you might want to look into getting a vasectomy, man, because I get it, you got all this money, but you don't want to just be cashing out. 1.8 million for every, you know, woman that you have a baby with. It just, you know, just that energy and that calm is just a little nasty.

[Rory]

I'm just put. What a move. I feel like there's fathers around the world that are wondering, I didn't know I could do that. Can we look up Anthony Edwards contract now? How many more years does he have? Left on his contract.

[Mal]

I mean, it doesn't matter. They're going to keep reing them up.

[Rory]

And the way he's been playing obviously is going to be more and more money which would increase your child support based off your income. If this contract's up and he already had the one, she has no entitlement to the re up, right?

[Mal]

No, it's over. 1.8 will cover 18 years of sign.

[Rory]

Five years.

[Mal]

Yeah. Right now he's on a five year, 245 million dollar contract. He'll probably double that on the re up.

[Rory]

What a fucking move.

[Mal]

So, yeah, man, but you know, you just don't, you don't want to just have a bunch of kids just because you have money to pay women off for 18 years. Like you don't. That's just, you know, you don't want that type of shit.

[Rory]

What if he has a breeding fetish? I found out that's a thing.

[Mal]

Oh man. I mean, that's a whole nother conversation he needs to have. If he has a breeding fetish, that's a thing. No, I know, I realize it's a thing. I don't think that that's our thing. I think that's y'all people's thing. I think that's white people. Shit.

[Josh]

Shit.

[Rory]

Can I introduce you to Nicholas Cannon?

[Mal]

But is that a breeding fetish though, you think?

[Josh]

Yes.

[Mal]

What do you think it is? I think. Well, I. Well, me personally, I think Nick was going through some health shit. And I think that he probably felt like, you know, he was probably not gonna have many more years of good health or life. And I think that he wanted to just have a legacy and have a bunch of kids. I don't think it's a breeding fetish though.

[Rory]

Wayne has pretty much admitted to having one. But again, that was at the time when he was on a lot of drugs during that interview. But he had said that he thinks the best gift that you can give a woman is a child. And he was buying chicks, bags, all that. It wasn't fulfilling him at all. So he was like, I'm just gonna give these bitches babies.

[Mal]

Yeah, that's weird.

[Rory]

That's a breeding fetish.

[Mal]

Yeah, it's still weird. I don't care what it is. It's a weird thing that happens.

[Rory]

It's a strong attraction to the idea of getting or getting, getting or getting someone else pregnant. Frequently this fetish involves a person with a penis ejaculating into someone's uterus, breeding them. People with breeding fetish generally enjoy the risky feeling of potentially permanent consequence from a sexual act.

[Mal]

I like listening.

[Rory]

That's a sick person.

[Mal]

I like listening to them dance. I like listening to them dance around words so they don't like insult like anybody who might not identify with a certain gender. Read that again from the top.

[Rory]

Just this part. People with a breeding fetish generally enjoy the risky in quotations. Risky feeling a potentially permanent consequence from a sexual act.

[Mal]

Permanent consequence.

[Rory]

Yeah. All right. So just, I mean go to an AIDS convention and just go nuts then.

[Josh]

Okay, don't do that. But no, please don't.

[Rory]

That's a risky permanent consequence of a sexual act. No.

[Mal]

Yeah, but we don't want to. You know, that's just.

[Josh]

Let's not do that.

[Rory]

They may also enjoy a feeling of power exchange where one partner is submitting to the other. That's not really. There's other like Dom shit you could do.

[Mal]

Yeah. Like go buy a collar and put it on around her neck and choke her with it or something like I don't know.

[Rory]

And then you become the sub after child support.

[Josh]

I was about to say yeah that's.

[Rory]

That'S the Dom fetish right there.

[Josh]

She says nut and me daddy and you really do it and get trapped for 18 years. Who was really the one in power at that point?

[Rory]

I'm just for some breeding fetish may be more about role play and fantasy and partners engaging in it will get pregnant.

[Mal]

But I mean but that's like you.

[Rory]

Could get a plan B. You could play out your fantasies, do all that but like there's other ways to not keep it permanent.

[Mal]

Yeah. Birth. Did you birth control on. On both parts. But there's a bigger conversation because you know I've seen a lot of people joining in on the conversation after you know if this is true or not. I think the, the, the, the mother came out and spoke but it, it is a conversation to have. You know especially with men who are better off obviously making a lot of money. The 1% of men in the world that make this type of money. There is a conversation to have of. You know, if you have this conversation with somebody while you're having sex and he lets you know, like listen, I don't want to have a baby.

[Rory]

Yeah but that ruins the mood.

[Mal]

But let's have the conversation. I don't want to have a child. You know, obviously you don't have to fully ejaculate inside of a woman for to get pregnant. It can be pre cum whatever that a woman gets pregnant from. But there is a conversation to have if you know your partner, your sexual partner says, hey, listen, if you know, I don't want a kid, if you get pregnant, you know, my choice is to not have the kid. I don't want to have a child with you. And in that moment, if, you know, we're not in the bedroom with these consenting adults, but in that moment, if the woman is like, yeah, nah, I'm not trying to have no baby with you.

[Rory]

I don't wanna record it and make her sign paperwork.

[Mal]

I mean, but do you have to go to those lengths, though? Should you have to go to those lengths?

[Rory]

Here's safety advice and special considerations. Fantasizing about your breeding fetish while masturbating is a common and safe way for people to enjoy it on their own. When a breeding fetish is with a partner, it's just about fantasy. That can also be safe. Breeding roleplay can range from talking about the fetish during sex to actively acting out a scene when it is more than role play. However, that bitch is going to get pregnant, which is significantly risky. People have STDs as well, so you should look out for that.

[Mal]

Yeah, I just said, get a vasectomy, man. Get it, get it snipped, Turn the faucet off. You can still. You still come, you still get the sensation. Everything but you just. The sperm just don't work. It ain't swimming.

[Rory]

If, if you're his coach, do you have that conversation or do you kind of let personal lives be personal lives?

[Mal]

Because it's absolutely.

[Rory]

I mean, well, it's starting to affect some way because it's always a leaked text message. Like, it's always.

[Mal]

Not necessarily his. Somebody. Somebody in his camp, in his corner. I don't know his family's dynamic. I don't know if he has any older brothers or uncles or any, you know, other men that he looks. Looks up to for advice that. Well, this type of advice in particular. But these are the conversations that you need to have with those men that are in your life that you respect and that you, you know, look, you look to for those type of moments because again, we, you know, Anthony Edwards is financially set. His family's financially set. His kids will be, you know, okay for the most part, for a very long time. But again, you just don't want to just have random babies with, you know, women that you just had an attraction to for a couple weeks and now you have this life that you created, and just because you have access to all of this money, you feel like, okay, well, I'll just give her 18 years worth of child support right now. We don't have to go to court for it. Take this $1.82 million. Don't ask me for nothing else. Like, I get that part of it. It's not. No burden on you, but it's just we don't need. Because then what happens is the kids become adults and they have this resentment and they have this energy for you. And then you have people that just have this trauma, knowing that they came from a situation where father didn't really want them. Mom might have, quote, unquote, trapped my dad, and my dad wasn't ready for a baby. Now you have to have more therapy sessions and things like that. It just breeds a lot of, you know, things in the future that's just not healthy and doesn't make for a healthy family and a healthy dynamic between father and child. So, you know, if Anthony. I was. Listen, get a. Get that. Go get that little, little snip snip, man. And then have your fun. Do what you want to do.

[Rory]

Well, I mean, thank God, because I was up all night thinking about this situation. Aisha Howard finally broke her silence on whether she's a gold digger or not, because obviously she has a child with little baby as well, and now one with Anthony Edwards. I mean, I was tossing and turning, waiting for some type of communication from her, and basically she's just saying, yahoos is broke.

[Mal]

Well, yeah, she said that in so many words. She said that, you know, when women decide to have babies with broke guys, do you know, people say, oh, you have a broke guy fetish. Or, you know, you just broke?

[Josh]

I mean, no, she cooking.

[Mal]

No, she's not cooking. She's. She's stealing money. Like, that's what she's doing.

[Rory]

She brings up a good point because everyone's calling her gold digger. Whatever. She's like, yes, I have a baby by a very successful rapper. Now I have a baby by a very successful athlete. She's not the first chick to have two baby fathers in the world.

[Mal]

Definitely not the first and won't be the last.

[Rory]

She said, what if I came to y'all pages, right? I was at the edge of my seat once. She said the right. Because we all were like, right? And compared the men that you have children with to the men that I have children with. And I said, you were digging for poverty, bitch, when you. When you picked him to be your baby daddy, weren't you? And I was at the edge of my seat. I was like, yeah, or you kept that baby for an extra income tax credit, didn't you? Spitting. She wasn't finished. Howard claimed critics secretly wish they were in her position but can't because they don't have the same opportunities. How are you going to tell me what you would have done in my situation when you had a baby? From your weed man.

[Josh]

She really said that?

[Rory]

Yes. This is TMZ.com I'm crying. She concluded in her almost eight minute video by praying for mothers who recently gave birth and express sympathy for those dealing with mean and ignorant people on social media. The Internet showed me no grace while I was pregnant. Y'all showed me no grace. Y'all have money for weed.

[Josh]

That you must have been digging for. Poverty is hysterical. I'm sorry.

[Mal]

I mean, she made some points. Like, she made some points, but again, you know, it's the. I'm. The adults are the adults. However she chose to have this kid is her business. She has that right. I'm thinking about the kids, once they get to an age where they now understand the dynamic between mom and dad and what happened and things like that, like, it's just gonna breed future resentment and terrible dynamics and energy between mother, father, and child.

[Rory]

I mean, but is it like, this isn't that crazy of a story to me with the little baby and Anthony Edwards thing? Like, Michele has children with Dr. Dre and Suge Knight. Nas's baby mother said that she had a miscarriage from Jay Z. There could be a chance there would have been a child that their siblings would. Nas would have been a dad and Jay Z would have been.

[Josh]

Yeah, like, this is.

[Rory]

This is very common.

[Josh]

Did y'all want her to go get pregnant by, like, a Greyhound bus driver? Like, she has but one baby. Father got money. She dates in that circle. That's her circle. I don't understand why people are making her.

[Rory]

And respectfully, I don't mean to put this on a jacket, hypothetically, she's probably slept with other people besides those two men that were successful and didn't have a child with them.

[Mal]

Yeah, yeah. But the thing that people are pointing to is the fact that they're saying that Anthony Edwards basically told her he didn't want to have a baby.

[Rory]

He's been very clear about that from the gate. Right, but the weed man says that, too.

[Mal]

And she kept the baby and she decided to have the baby. So, you know, Anthony Edwards is saying, well, I know what this is about. This is money. She's about money she wants. Okay? So here, take this. 18 years of child support right now. Here Today, we don't have to drag this out. This is about money. So then now you're having kids based on financial exchanges and monetary gains.

[Josh]

Nobody's proven that, though, because what if she don't believe in abortions?

[Mal]

What if she don't believe in abortions?

[Josh]

What if she doesn't believe in abortions?

[Mal]

Oh, that. That's fine. She could not believe in abortions. But I'm saying if her and Anthony. I'm saying if they had this conversation of he wasn't. He didn't want a child with her. He was. He didn't want to have it. If they had that conversation, then, yeah, I feel like she. It is a money play at that point. If somebody is telling you, I don't. I'm not trying to get you pregnant. I don't want to have a baby with you. And then, okay, yeah, we are.

[Josh]

And then you slip up and get pregnant, and you don't believe in abortions.

[Mal]

Then, however it happened, whether he did come at her, whether it was pre. You know how things happen. We've heard all the stories. We've heard all the stories. However it happened. What I'm saying is, Anthony Edwards, this move of here, take this money now and don't ask me for nothing else. This is. It is speaking to the. The. The story of him saying he didn't want to have a baby.

[Josh]

Oh, yeah, for sure.

[Mal]

That's what I'm saying. That his actions are speaking to him actually having that conversation before she got pregnant. That, look, I'm not trying to have a baby. Like, you know, I mean.

[Rory]

So the real hero here is. Who is Anthony Edwards, lawyer.

[Josh]

Yeah, I know.

[Rory]

Shocker. Harvey Steinberg. Harvey Steinberg. What?

[Josh]

Go ahead.

[Mal]

I could have guessed, but, yeah.

[Rory]

The fact that. Forget the $1.8 million payout shit, which we don't even know is true, by the way. I feel like it was some random account that said this and we all ran with it. So this could be false.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

How did number one, Harvey, get it to $5,000 a month and then add the option of paying it all at once? Well, $5,000 a month is low. I feel like I'd pay more than that. How the fuck did it get to 5k?

[Mal]

Well, I mean, again, lawyers, you know, great lawyers can. Can make things happen. They can make numbers disappear and things like that. But me having, you know, friends that are athletes and make a lot of money that were in the same situation of child support. Oh, you can definitely pay the 18 years right now if you want to.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

If you decide to drop one point whatever million right now, today. Oh, that option is there for you and somebody who's making what, 60 million a year almost.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Take this little 1.8 and leave me alone, lady.

[Rory]

I mean, I. Yeah, I'm trying to think because we've always had these questions of like, with the lottery. And I've seen like Mark Cuban talk about it, like, what you should do in that situation. Take the lump sum or take the monthly payout. In that case, 5K. And I'm sure there's some type of tax on child support. It needs some type of receipts. I'd probably just take the 1.8 out the gate instead of 5k a month for.

[Mal]

Of course you would.

[Rory]

I mean, but if it's gonna fluctuate and I can change it when he gets a new contract, maybe I'm doing that, but for 5k.

[Mal]

Lock me in for the 18.5k a month at 1.8. Lock me in. Take it.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Cause I know, I know. I know what Adidas and Minnesota is talking about on my re up. You ain't getting. You ain't getting none of that.

[Rory]

If it's getting to 5k a month from. From Dr. Steinberg here. Yeah, I'm taking it out the gate because it should be higher than 5k a month, which I would take the monthly for the rest of the 18 years, but not at that. Just give me the 1.8.

[Josh]

She should go invest that and then just take out her capital gains every quarter.

[Mal]

For what?

[Josh]

What do you mean?

[Mal]

Why should she go invest it?

[Rory]

Well, TMZ says she's a brand owner.

[Josh]

Why would she. Yeah, why wouldn't she invest? You get a lump sum of money, you don't let it sit in your bank account. You put it into something.

[Rory]

Yeah, that's just got to move.

[Mal]

That shit don't matter. Not to her. I mean, if it's that run out, you know, you know what time it is. Sibling number what?

[Josh]

I'm not putting that on her because I don't know her. And I don't.

[Mal]

I'm not saying her. I'm just saying in general, that's what women would think about.

[Rory]

Okay, I again don't want to start Pocket Watch people get in their personal business, but I'm going to anyways. How do we think Lil Baby felt when he read on TMZ? I don't think that Harvey Steinberg got that to 5k a month. If I can guarantee you Lil Baby pays more than five fucking K for child support.

[Mal]

I don't know that. I don't know what he pays. I don't know what his child support situation looks like, but I don't think he'd care about. I think he's so far removed from any emotions with.

[Rory]

He was looking right. His phone was like, gang. I know. He said gang.

[Josh]

Gang.

[Rory]

That was his reaction to reading that headline.

[Josh]

Do you guys think that he is a shitty person for paying up front and still wanting nothing to do with his child?

[Mal]

Nope.

[Rory]

Wait, why? Does that mean you want nothing to do with your child?

[Mal]

No, he wants nothing to do with this child.

[Rory]

Do we know that for a fact.

[Mal]

He wants nothing to do with this child?

[Josh]

We don't know any of this for a fact. Yeah.

[Rory]

So.

[Mal]

But I don't think I'm on the side of Aunt Edwards. Don't want nothing to do with this baby. I'm on that side. I don't know if it's true or not. We just guessing. I'm on that side.

[Rory]

All right, well, I'm saying that paying out the lump sum out the gate doesn't mean you're not gonna see your child. That's a complete business decision between you and the person that you got pregnant. That's a juvenile. Has nothing to do with seeing them or custody like that shit is just child support. Your kid has nothing to do with that.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

A lot of times women take that money and spend most of it on themselves and not on the baby.

[Mal]

Part of child support is being there as well, too.

[Rory]

And within custody. Yes. If they have full custody, then you have to pay child support or even joint custody to some degree. You have to. But that doesn't mean he doesn't want to see his kid. If he pays up front, it's not like he has to pay to see his child per month.

[Mal]

No, I'm not saying if he pays.

[Rory]

The lump sum, then he doesn't have to see his kid.

[Mal]

You're right in what you're saying. I'm not saying that. It means that. I'm saying I'm on the side of believing that is exactly why he paid this 1.8.

[Rory]

You never have to contact me because.

[Mal]

He wants nothing to do with her or the baby. And that's where I'm saying it's a problem. You have the money. The money is not an option. In Edwards household, that's not a problem. But again, just that energy and then the child being of age one day to know the story of who his dad is and what happened, it just makes the dynamic a little difficult.

[Rory]

From father can he even do that from a PR standpoint after everything he's gone through in the last two years, as far as baby mother shit and PR shit? Is the media even going to allow him to not see his kid? He's one of the people. I feel like you have to post your child at that point.

[Mal]

No, I think he can do it. Listen, if you don't want a kid with somebody and they end up pregnant, you should have that writer if you want to be in their life or not.

[Rory]

All right, what happens when Aisha's her name? What happens when she finds her Russell Wilson? Anthony double back.

[Mal]

I don't think so.

[Rory]

That's my kid now.

[Mal]

I don't think. Anthony Edwards kid. I'm just on that side, man. And the funny shit about this is I had this conversation with somebody who was in the same situation, a friend of mine, a basketball player, and he had went through some shit, you know, similar to not this situation, but child support. And I made the statement. I'm like, man, Anthony Edwards don't care about. No, you don't want no kids, man. He don't care about. I'm like, these young, rich dudes, they don't care about these kids, man. They just out here dating the girls that they had crushes on five years ago when they was in high school. Now they finally got access to these women. They're dating these women, and these women know it. We've seen, you know, when everybody killed Dre about her. Her last. Her recent relationship and her. Her child's father and how young he is in comparison to her. People killed Dre about that and said, you know, that's predatory behavior. And this, that, and the third, call it what it is, we know what it is. But I just think that, you know, people do what they want to do, and, you know, when they put it on social media, it obviously becomes public business and public information. So everybody chimes in and talks on it. But let's not sit here and act like we don' what's going on here. Like, a lot of these women are not out here trying to, of course, get a lottery ticket and. And. And not have to work and be taken care for and laid it up. You know, girls favorite thing to do is Pilates and lattes. That's what they want to do every.

[Rory]

Day, all day, and design swimwear that's already designed.

[Mal]

Yeah. So, I mean, listen, if this is. If this having a baby, you know, some of these women might actually want to have kids, which is beautiful. Have. Have a child But I just think having it under circumstances where both parents, this is what they want and this is what they're, they're trying to have, you know, a family. I think that's more important than saying, oh well, I have the money to Support her for 18, the next 18 years right now, today, here, take this money, leave me alone. I just think, yeah, obviously. Okay, cool. Financially you're set. But it's just the family dynamic is fucked up.

[Rory]

Yeah. I mean, going into that situation, it wasn't going to be in a good place regardless.

[Mal]

Again, that's why you, you know, choose who you lay down, lay down with.

[Rory]

They didn't go into that situation thinking family. So I'm with you.

[Josh]

A lot of these girls were raised without their parents. And yeah, they, they're looking like, oh, well, I wish I would have had one point. I wish my mother would have got 1.8 million for me, even though my dad wasn't gonna be in my life anyway. So.

[Rory]

Well, I mean, also I will go.

[Josh]

But I see their mind state. They're very twisted mindset in that.

[Rory]

It's not twisted, in my opinion. It's up, but it's not twisted. And I'm not saying that about this woman.

[Mal]

It's not twisted to have kids with somebody that don't want to be.

[Rory]

Some women have nothing to offer whatsoever to the world and workforce but their vagina. I'm not saying they're prostitute.

[Mal]

And those women should not.

[Rory]

They're not. I'm not.

[Mal]

Women that are not having babies, the.

[Rory]

Only thing they can offer to survive in this world once they're adults, not even being a prostitute or an escort or anything like that, just a regular woman is their vagina. We can use certain attributes we have to make money. That's the only attribute they have. So it's not sick and twisted to go, well, let me go find a rich guy. Because the only thing I offer to the world is my vagina.

[Mal]

Yeah, but it's a lot of women that only offer vagina they're not having babies with though.

[Rory]

But when you come to doing what they gotta do and you have to.

[Mal]

Survive, they're selling sex.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

They're making money, you know, building a lifestyle for themselves that they want, which is their business. But they're not having babies with every john that they lay down with.

[Rory]

But that's, that's the job. The baby is the career. Yes, they can rich men because the only thing they can offer is their vagina and just their, their presence. They'll get bags, they'll get their rent paid, they'll get this and that. But when it's time to go from a job to a career, it's the baby that's going to give you that 401k. So that and the only thing they have to offer is their vagina.

[Mal]

You think that there's not sex workers that have not made a career out of selling pussy that don't have kids?

[Josh]

Because I think Rory's point is at one point they want to stop selling the pussy.

[Mal]

Yeah, well, that's not even saying investment.

[Rory]

I'm not even talking about women that.

[Mal]

Are actually using the baby as an investment is fucking sick.

[Rory]

It is sick.

[Mal]

All right, so what I'm saying is there are plenty of women that sell sex that we know and they don't have any kids and they've been selling pussy for 15 years.

[Rory]

That's a career because they have. Even though sex workers are offering their vagina, that is still somewhat of a skill and a business to be a sex worker. I'm talking about the bum chicks that vacation as a job. They're not sex workers. They've just done nothing with their lives except for be pretty and men have just paid for shit. They have not. Not exchanged a vagina for the.

[Mal]

You don't think that's. Wait, wait, what? You don't think that's a sex worker?

[Rory]

It's a low level. I know what you're saying, but that's not what.

[Mal]

I'm not doing that. Just because it ain't in their bio don't mean they not sex workers, bro.

[Rory]

I. I'm fine.

[Mal]

Sex. It's okay.

[Rory]

I don't gotta find we can make.

[Mal]

It around this topic. Women are out here selling sex for monetary gain. Okay?

[Rory]

I'm talking about the women that have not given their life to the game. The ones that are not straight up. I'm an escort. This is my price for the night. This is my price for the month. Real sex workers. Strippers that have graduated to be escorts. Real sex workers. I'm talking about the bum pretty that have done nothing with. They've never been on Backpage Craigslist. They've never really been in the game to sell this. They not veterans. They're just bum that look good.

[Mal]

No.

[Rory]

They're bum that look good.

[Mal]

No. And they are veterans.

[Rory]

To hope their rent is paid.

[Mal]

They are veterans.

[Rory]

That is fine to say that's a sex worker, but you could make a case it's not. I'm not talking about the real sex workers. I'm talking about these chicks that have nothing. They have no skills. They never even applied themselves to anything else but being retarded and pretty. Those women.

[Mal]

A lot of sex workers are retarded and pretty. What are you talking about?

[Rory]

A lot of them are great businesswomen.

[Mal]

No, the women you talking about just trying to front and be insecure and don't want to say that they selling and want to sell it on the low. That don't mean you ain't selling because you ain't saying you selling.

[Rory]

I'm saying a direct wire for if.

[Mal]

I stand on the corner every day and sell an ounce of cocaine for 15 years, I'm a drug dealer just because I don't live. If I don't say it out loud, I'm like, yo, listen, I'm saying I'm moving bricks. That don't mean I'm not a judge. Yes, you're a drug dealer. The cops are going to come and arrest you soon.

[Rory]

Sir, you're making a point that I. I can't refute. That's why I was saying. I understand. I understand what you're saying.

[Mal]

No matter if a woman is saying she's selling sex or not, no matter if she admits it or not, no matter if she's out in the open in public about it, that don't mean that she's not selling sex. She is selling sex because if the right person walks up to her and says, yo, what's up? Like, come take this trip with me. You know, Listen, I pay for everything, to worry about it. Come out here, how much you need to cover your mortgage or your money, and all you doing is laying up every day, taking pictures in hotels, going shopping, and this you're selling.

[Josh]

But they think they're in a relationship.

[Mal]

They're delusional. They're crazy.

[Rory]

They think that man's doing what he's supposed to do and taking care of his law.

[Mal]

They do. And. And he is. To an extent.

[Rory]

I know.

[Mal]

To an extent. Because it takes two. It has to be a seller and a buyer for sure. All right? So all I'm saying is let's not sit here and act like just because it ain't in her bio. Yes. Or she don't fucking, you know, she's not on browsers or pornhub that she ain't selling pussy.

[Rory]

You are making a lot of sense. That again, I cannot refute. I will reword it to women that believe in their brain that they are not a prostitute or selling sex. They think they're talking to this guy. They Think they're. They're not Ted Bunny don't believe he's a fucking maniac. Like, well, you know, he had a. That has a good reason.

[Mal]

That don't have nothing. That doesn't change the reality is what I'm saying. What that woman thinks in her head does not change the reality of what it is.

[Rory]

This woman thinks that she's not multiple men. She's just this rich guy. When that's over, she's gonna go the next. Next rich guy. That woman that thinks she's not a prostitute, she thinks she's a professional girlfriend.

[Mal]

That woman a professional.

[Josh]

I'm saying, when she's done a prostitute.

[Mal]

Yeah. Find all the names y'all want. Come on, give me some.

[Rory]

I'm not the delusional one. These women are. I'm explaining something.

[Josh]

Regular pretty girls who, like, they tend to date niggas with money because they're pretty, and that's who they come across. And they think that they're like, they're dating this guy, and they're like, oh, my God, like, why is he, like, not paying attention to me? This, this, and that, but he's just fudgeing them. There are some women who really believe that. Like, oh, like, he likes me. I like him. Like, we're, like, dating. Like, we're together. There are some really ditzy girls that are like, that. They don't understand. They're in a power exchange.

[Rory]

Yes. Oh, no.

[Mal]

I get that part. In the reality of, we know what time, we know what those women are. That's all I'm saying. So, yeah, which is great. They're junior women that feel like that. But in the reality on the outside looking name, when we say, wait, how do y'all know. Okay, you with the. Oh, you're selling. Okay, you sell sex. Fine. You're a grown woman. Do what you want to do. Nobody's. I'm not shaming.

[Josh]

Well, how are you not? Well, let me.

[Rory]

They have dreams of doing a skincare line.

[Josh]

Accidentally sell sex. Like, now I'm like, I'm afraid.

[Mal]

No. You know when you're selling sex?

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

It ain't no accident. You know when you're selling sex as a woman.

[Josh]

Well, how? Well, how would you.

[Mal]

First of all, as a healthy, functioning brain, you know when you're doing something wrong and right. You know that.

[Josh]

Well, I don't think that selling sex is wrong, so I don't think it is either.

[Mal]

But I do know. I do know that a woman knows when she's selling pussy.

[Josh]

If you're dating a guy that has. That's well off and he's like, yo, come take this trip with me. And you guys are like living it up on the trip, shopping, having fun, having sex. That means that you're. That automatically means that you're selling pussy.

[Mal]

No, that. It means you're selling. If that's the only reason you're on that trip with that person because you know that they're paying.

[Josh]

But how would you know that?

[Mal]

Because you know Damaris, you know if that wire don't come through, you ain't talking to that nigga.

[Josh]

Oh, that's what you mean. Okay, we're talking about.

[Mal]

What am I talking about?

[Rory]

We're talking about the women. Are we having the women that actually.

[Josh]

Believe they like, we having a stroke as a.

[Mal]

What the fuck is happening here right now?

[Rory]

What's funny is we're all on the same page. We're talking about the perception of these women that think they like these guys. They are really there thinking, oh, this could be my potential boyfriend. But the only reason he can be that is because he has a certain financial status or popularity status. Those women that don't think they're actually whoring. But by definition, you are 1000% exchanging your pussy for money. It would not exist if the money did not.

[Mal]

Yes, correct.

[Rory]

But I'm saying those women, their contingency plan, that's a job for them, is going from rich guy to rich guy. The baby is the fucking career. So yes, they are viewing the only thing they can offer to the world is a vagina.

[Mal]

But I'm saying.

[Rory]

And what's going to make sure I have a 401k is a baby coming out of it?

[Mal]

That mindset is crazy. That's all I'm saying.

[Rory]

Oh, yeah, but it's just.

[Mal]

Having a baby is an investment so that you don't have to work ever again because this guy has money and he's had to pay child support for having. That mindset is insane.

[Rory]

But. But another insane mindset on the other side, which Aisha, I think was trying to bring up with the weed. Man. There's plenty of women that have a baby just to save a broke ass relationship. Women use their vaginas for multiple reasons that aren't financial like this. This whole marriage could be crumbling. I know I can offer a child. So let me do this to fix the relationship. Fuck finances.

[Mal]

Yeah, I just think using a child for any of that is absolutely crazy. No matter what the problem as a child is not a solution.

[Rory]

I know some sick ass Men that's trapped women because she was fast, thought she was gonna lock her down. Like it's not gonna take nine months if you're not back out in the streets.

[Josh]

Yo.

[Mal]

Men that trapped a woman.

[Josh]

Yes.

[Rory]

That's the thing.

[Josh]

Yes.

[Rory]

Not ain't my personal friend, thank God.

[Josh]

But be out here, I see I'm different.

[Mal]

I don't subscribe to that.

[Josh]

These be out.

[Mal]

It's her choice to have a baby.

[Rory]

I know we know somebody that has a breeding fetish that was given what's you give women to make them more fertile.

[Mal]

What?

[Josh]

What? I just took it this morning. I know what you're talking about.

[Rory]

Jesus.

[Josh]

I did. No, but I know so much from mystery. Oh, no.

[Mal]

The marriage ate 10 pounds of okra macaroo.

[Rory]

No, not macaroo. What you talking about? No, there's like. Actually, I don't know what it is. The girl told me what is. He gives the. The girls he's talking to that because he wants to get all them. Like he has a stable already. That's his thing. If I'm dating to talk with you, you're going to be good financially the rest of your life. But I want a child. Like he. He verbally traps these women with consent. Like he's telling them once they start talking, I want a child.

[Josh]

But see, that's not a. That's not a trap. I'm talking about these niggas who are afraid to lose you or anything like that. And they will. Or you too much of a hot girl. And they will get you pregnant knowing because you love them that you're not going to kill the baby. Yeah, it happens a lot. That definitely punch in, my friend.

[Mal]

That definitely happens. Yeah, but that's him manipulating you, thinking that y'all are, you know, together relationship. You want to. He telling you he want to have a this, that, and the third, and then, you know, it's only in the back of his mind because he didn't want you with somebody else. Yeah, that's a piece of shit. That's I'm talking about.

[Josh]

That's trapping though.

[Mal]

Yeah, but I'm talking about if, you know, the guy don't want you like that and y'all fucking around and you get pregnant and you know that he don't want you, he not trying to have a family, and you have his baby, you can't then say, yo, he trapped me with a baby. You had that option to give him a baby?

[Josh]

No, definitely not.

[Rory]

If you.

[Josh]

If he said he doesn't want a baby, then no.

[Mal]

Yeah, that's what I'm speaking to.

[Josh]

Oh no, I'm talking about. I'm talking about there are men who out be out here moving. Like women.

[Mal]

Oh yeah, yeah.

[Josh]

Happen.

[Mal]

I'm not definitely know that that's just.

[Rory]

Going to lead to that person leaving your kid in McDonald's while they go do.

[Mal]

Well, that gentleman, I mean, I don't know if I want to call him a terrible guy.

[Josh]

I feel bad for him.

[Rory]

I'm not going to.

[Mal]

It sounds like somebody that just was like, you know, he didn't have no other options. He obviously needed a job. He's at McDonald's on a job interview. He probably didn't have nobody to watch his kids. He needed the job, he needed to take the interview and thought that, you know, leaving the child, you know, I guess he left him in McDonald's or in the car.

[Josh]

In McDonald's.

[Rory]

In McDonald's.

[Mal]

In like the play area or something. So I mean my mom may have done that once or twice when I was about 6 or 7. She didn't leave me but you know, she kind of, she knew where I was at. Like he in there. He ain't moving, he ain't leaving that room. He loves that playpen. Let me go outside and take this phone call like this probably happened.

[Rory]

Authorities were called after a concerned customer noticed the children, ages 1, 6 and 10 were left alone. First of all, I think you're a very weird concerned customer if you're at McDonald's noticing the play area. Like what do you just eat your Big Mac and go? I don't know. I mean, maybe the car would have been a little safer. I see what he was trying to do, keep them preoccupied. I think a 10 year old can watch his siblings for a second depending on the 10 year old, but in a public place. I see the outrage there, but let's.

[Mal]

Know because we have to give the story justice. A respondent deputy found the children unattended. A witness reported seeing Lewis with the children around 4:30pm that day. The witness also observed Lewis leave the restaurant, return later before leaving again. Sounds like he came back, checked up real quick right before he went to the interview and then left back out. Louis arrived back at McDonald's around 6:18. So 4:30 he arrived. He came back at 6:18, so little under two hours and was detained by officers. He explained that he had walked to the restaurant with his children from his apartment and didn't want to make them walk back while he attended a nearby job interview. Okay, so he had a job interview nearby he didn't want to take the kids home, leave them home by themselves. They look like they may have been having a good time in the McDonald's playroom. So he probably was like, you know what? This job interview is right here in the same area. Let me just run down the road, take this interview. I'll come right back. He did not own a vehicle though. So that's the tricky part because it's like, how are you getting to and from. Did he walk? Was it that close? So he could have walked to the.

[Rory]

Interview or he took the bus or something.

[Mal]

Either way, the children's mother arrived shortly after and took the children from the restaurant. Lewis was arrested and taken into custody.

[Rory]

I actually saw most of the timeline praising this gentleman, which, I mean, I get it, it's a kids job, I fully understand that. But if the, if the crib was walking distance, like, why not leaving the.

[Mal]

Kids in the house, unplug everything. Yeah, that's always the safer.

[Rory]

If you got a good 10 year old. I think a 10 year old for a little bit can watch their siblings if they're a good 10 year old.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

But I mean, I don't. Leaving a one year old by themselves in. Yeah, a playground.

[Mal]

Yeah, that's.

[Rory]

I wasn't really on the side of the timeline with this one.

[Mal]

And it's, you know, you want to kind of, you know, give some sympathy for the guy because obviously, you know, he's on hard times and he's just trying to make the best decision for his kids. He obviously wants a job. He's going on a job interview. He's not just sitting around, not trying to do something, but doesn't have anybody to watch the kids, you know, and then now you get into the mindset of a neighbor, couldn't watch them. But then you got these freaky ass neighbors that you live around.

[Josh]

I'm sorry, saying freaky ass neighbors.

[Rory]

Remember I downloaded the app.

[Josh]

I know what you mean.

[Rory]

Just on his block and some freaks.

[Mal]

Yeah, you got these freaky ass neighbors. So you like. I don't even feel comfortable telling the neighbor, yo, listen, just listen out. Make sure nobody goes in the crib. I got the kids in there. Freaky ass neighbor might try to go in there, you know what I'm saying? So it's like, it's tough, man. People, you know, people have, you know, very limited options, very limited help when it comes to, you know, having to take care. They'll help them with their family and their kids. But the, you know, the main thing is he didn't leave, you know, his kids to go meet some girl and have sex in a car somewhere. Like, he went on a job interview. He went to go.

[Rory]

Well, he didn't have a car. That's why.

[Mal]

Well, if he had a car, he may have. You know what I mean? Then. But then it would have been another thing if he'd take the kids with him on the interview and leave them in the car. So it's. I mean, it's like, what is. What is somebody to do? I don't have help.

[Rory]

I. I just feel like the car might be a little safer.

[Mal]

No, not. I mean, you can't do that because.

[Josh]

They'Re more likely to get out the car.

[Mal]

Not only the kids likely to get out the car. I just told y'all the story about my sister had the dog in the car for 10 minutes.

[Rory]

Oh, I would have been one of those.

[Mal]

AC on. It wasn't even hot outside. It was. It was like maybe 50 degrees outside. Dog is fine. We in the restaurant just getting some food, right across the street to go. Come back. It's a note on the car saying, hey, you shouldn't leave your dogs on the. And we're like. It was gone for maybe 15 minutes. Yeah, maybe. So now you going on a job interview and leave your kids in. You imagine if you leave your kids in the car. We see it all the time, people standing around the car. By the time you come out, the interview, cops is at the car ready to bust the window.

[Rory]

Definitely not getting that job.

[Mal]

Yeah. It's like, so then you can't take the kids in the interview with you. This ain't fucking pursuit of happiness. You know what I'm saying? Nobody don't give a fuck about that. You know what I mean? He don't care about that. You'll find somebody watching kids while you come on this interview. But people don't have help. You know what I'm saying? But again, I don't want to sound like I'm not being sympathetic toward this father. He sounds like he's trying to get his shit together. Salute to him. I think maybe we should start a gofundme. I've seen people start gofundmes for other dumb shit. Let's start a gofundme for a father who got arrested because he left his kids in McDonald's playroom while dangerous. It sounded like this wasn't a father. He didn't have a car. He don't have a job. He's going on an interview.

[Rory]

He had his first kid at 14 if the maths. Well, he's 24 years old. He's a 10 year old, 6 year old and a 1 year old.

[Mal]

So now we're talking about, you know, somebody who just doesn't, you know, trying to get their shit together, trying to be responsible, you know, made some bad decisions at a very young age, but that doesn't mean that he can't get it together and turn his life around. But yeah, we should start a GoFundMe for this gentleman, whatever his name is.

[Rory]

Just the one year old, though, in the playground. Like, what was the one year old doing?

[Josh]

Don't act like Amar ass wasn't running around when she was one in the.

[Mal]

I mean, with the sibling.

[Rory]

With the 10 year old, that's one. It's scary with a two year old of how easy they could themselves up.

[Mal]

Yeah, no, I get. Listen, this is a. This, this could have been very bad. You know what I mean? But again, it just sounds like a young father trying to get his together, man.

[Rory]

No, and listen, if he had his child at 14, I'm sure that 10 year old is way more mature than we would give a regular 10 year old some credit.

[Mal]

So unfortunately, it sounds like the 10 year old would have to be.

[Rory]

Yes, that's what I'm saying.

[Mal]

He can't be a kid. He got play, dad. He got to play. Big brother. He got to play. You know, it's tough, man. He's again getting back to this family dynamic. Having. Having families in healthy dynamics and healthy situations. It's important, man.

[Rory]

Yeah. And I mean, I don't know what's. What's worse, having me take my child down a slide when I was with her, or this gentleman leaving his children unharmed because I almost murdered Amara on that slide.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Look what happens when the parents are there.

[Mal]

Sometimes the parents are there and the kid is in. In equal danger.

[Rory]

Put them in danger.

[Mal]

Ye. Put.

[Rory]

Yeah. Let's try that slide.

[Mal]

Let's try this slide.

[Rory]

She would have never tried.

[Mal]

Exactly. Exactly.

[Rory]

But no, I. I get it. I don't know. I feel for him.

[Mal]

And it's tough, man. It's tough. Young, three kids, no job, trying to get a job. It's. It's tough, man.

[Rory]

Josh was asking me what any wild parenting decisions I've made so far. I don't know if I've been in like, a situation yet to have to make one. I've been a pretty boring father so far.

[Josh]

Privileged.

[Rory]

I agree. I mean, the slide was probably one of the scarier moments.

[Mal]

I mean, look at Mara's Scariest moments.

[Rory]

Are going when I wasn't there. That's like. But I mean, I don't know if I've had.

[Mal]

But that happened. You could have been there and that could have happened.

[Rory]

That's knock on wood. There hasn't been anything out of the ordinary yet, I will say. But there has been plenty of times that like I've needed to run into the store and went, damn, wish I could just leave her in here real quick. Especially in the winter because you got to take their jacket off to put them in the car seat, then put the jacket on just to walk it.

[Mal]

Like, this is why America is behind. There's a part of the world I can't remember. Josh, you can Google it. There's a part of the world where parents. People leave their babies in the strollers outside of restaurants.

[Rory]

Like a bike.

[Mal]

And I'm talking about. Nothing happens. No babies are kidnapped.

[Rory]

Probably like Sweden or.

[Mal]

I think it's Finland. Yeah, I think it's. No, I think it's Finland. Yeah, I think it's Finland. And I'm talking about. This is like a. But this is a thing no more.

[Josh]

It's like valet for babies.

[Mal]

No, it's not even. No, nobody's watching them. It's just a known thing that the baby's in there. Cause babies like to sleep outside the air. It's cool. But they're bundled up, they're wrapped up. But they leave them outside. The baby is taking a nap, sleeping. And nobody's bothering these strollers. Nobody's even thinking about snatching these strollers, snatching these babies. It's like you go past all these stores and there's just strollers outside with babies in them. And nobody's even. The mindset of doing something to these babies is not. Yeah, but I mean Norway and other Scandinavian countries where parents leave their babies bo bundled up in strollers outside to take a nap.

[Rory]

We're in America. Outside of just the straight psychos in America. I'm sure a non psycho teenager would try to make some TikTok content out of your sleeping child. Like it's not even. We don't just have to worry about the psycho serial killers like we used to when we were younger. We have to actually we have to worry about like normal people.

[Josh]

Content creator content.

[Mal]

You ever seen somebody juggle three sleeping babies?

[Rory]

Like that's. That's the biggest to America right now is not necessarily mass shootings. It's people with regular chemical brains trying to make content out of your life.

[Mal]

I could definitely see a content Creator. If we had this type of thing in America. Content creator. Taking the babies and putting them in different strollers and then recording it from way. Like, look at the parents. Like, yeah, when they look in the store, it's not their baby. And then that's not the type of content we need.

[Rory]

Then my favorite thing is the parents would freak out and then the content creator would get mad at the. The parents. Ago. Yo, it's just a prank. Why are you getting upset?

[Mal]

Exactly. Yeah.

[Rory]

Remember those guys used to, like, run around the hood and. And. And with hood dudes in the projects? Yeah, those Middle Eastern kids. No. One of them got a gun pulled out. I was like, it was just a prank. What's wrong with you? Like, oh, you're pretending to try to rob people in a. An environment where that actually happens.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

And I used to hate. It's just a prank. It's just a prank. What's your problem? Like, what?

[Mal]

This is. This is just. Just, you know, we need to adopt some never gonna happen culture like this in America.

[Rory]

Look at our. Our entire basis of this country is based off having to worry about psychos. Like, we should be able to just walk on a plane, but, you know, that should be. We should be able to pull up to an airport and just walk onto the plane and leave the same way we do when we get in our car. But no, there's an entire department based off a psycho that will try to take this shit down.

[Mal]

Did that say in Manhattan, people leave their bait? Where? There. In lower Manhattan. Like many places, parents typically leave their babies in strollers outside restaurants, on sidewalks, or in designated areas.

[Rory]

Literally never happened.

[Mal]

That's never happened. I've never seen. I've seen strollers left outside of restaurants. There was no baby in it. The baby was in that little same wooden ass high chair that every restaurant has.

[Rory]

They can't even keep their head up.

[Mal]

Can't even hold their neck up. You know what I'm saying? That baby wasn't in that stroller, though. Nobody in lower Manhattan is doing that. I can promise you.

[Rory]

No one's leaving an empty anytime. I've been to a restaurant with Amara. I ask you, where's the broom closet? Like, can I put this stroller somewhere because. Because someone's gonna take it up.

[Josh]

Yeah, I gotta.

[Mal]

You know why? They could do that in Norway and in Scandinavia. You know why? Let's look at the laws on punishment for kidnapping in America versus versus Norway.

[Josh]

They also can, like, afford.

[Mal]

They'll probably kill you the same day in Norway. Nice ass.

[Rory]

Jails?

[Mal]

No, they have nice prisons in Norway.

[Rory]

That's just better than college dorms.

[Mal]

But what are the penalties for kidnapping in Norway? Gotta be death by shooting range. Gotta be.

[Rory]

No, they don't have guns in that.

[Josh]

Yeah, I was gonna say that's not.

[Mal]

Yeah, the only gun at the shooting range.

[Josh]

They have better health.

[Rory]

They're not raised as psychopaths.

[Josh]

Like, yeah, they have better health practices than us. And, like, they're not starving for money like we are. So there's no need to kidnap the baby to sell it because people can afford.

[Rory]

And let's. Let's look at, like, the chemicals that are in their food versus ours. Yeah, like, let's look at what really, with your. Your brain chemistry. They don't need that type of stuff.

[Mal]

That's this. That's the penalty. In Sweden, it's only one year unlawful deprivation of liberty to imprisonment for at least one, at most 10 years.

[Rory]

You have to understand, we're talking about Sweden here. Sweden's 9, 11.

[Mal]

That's kid. Like, I'm talking about a baby, though, not like an adult. I'm talking about a baby. They have max sentencing of 21 years. Like the guy that murdered, like, 50 people, he got like, 21.

[Rory]

21.

[Mal]

That's it.

[Josh]

Yeah, they don't have harsh. Yeah, they don't have harsh crimes over there. I mean, harsh.

[Rory]

And again, you have to look at that country.

[Mal]

Their.

[Rory]

Their version of 911 was ASAP. Rocky saying to a fan, hey, can you stop bothering me?

[Mal]

Me? Yeah, that was like the biggest crime, biggest news. That was the biggest news in the last 10 years over there. It's crazy. Three years for child abduction.

[Josh]

Wait, that's a light.

[Rory]

If you miss one child support payment, you're doing three years. Three years for stealing a child. I might take. Just take. Take a baby for the day, for the of it, you know, just walk around.

[Mal]

Like, walk around, bring it back. Hey, why are you crying?

[Rory]

I got an extra ticket to the Yankee game. I want to bring a kid, bring the baby back.

[Mal]

Why are you crying? To the friends. Why are you crying? I was coming right back. I just wanted to see what it felt like to be a dad for a few hours. That is crazy, man.

[Rory]

That's funny. I mean, I don't know, maybe Adam 22 should take. No jumper out there.

[Josh]

Yo, you cool?

[Rory]

Oh, come on.

[Josh]

Oh, come on.

[Mal]

Go push the wet, man. Push the brake. Go dribble.

[Rory]

Shoot. I didn't have to. I didn't push the. The gas. He posted a video himself.

[Mal]

No, I know. Adam, we're not allowed to talk about.

[Rory]

Something that he said.

[Mal]

No, no, of course. Absolutely no. Adam, 22, posted a video yesterday explaining the financial status of no Jumper. The future of no Jumper podcast is hanging in the balance amid structural changes. On Wednesday, Adam, 22, announced that the company will be undergoing layoffs, roughly five years after no jumper saw a massive jump in YouTube viewership and social media following. First we lost the no Jumper Instagram. Then after almost 10 years of building it up and essentially no strikes on our account, we got taken down one day, and we still have absolutely no idea why. As a solution, Adam has laid off multiple employees and closed a no Jumper store in Los Angeles. The podcast crew will also be downsizing by selling their warehouse. Nice warehouse Adam has out there in Cali. Selling their warehouse and relocating to a smaller workspace. I saw people killing Adam for posting this video. And first of all, I don't have the greatest relationship with Adam, but I don't have an issue with him at all. Salute to Adam. I thought that that was.

[Rory]

I thought the transparency was.

[Mal]

Transparency was dope. I thought it was honorable. Like, you know, he's telling people what it is because, you know, once you start making changes and people see the changes, they're gonna ask anyway, like, hey, why are you in a different studio now? Hey, must be that Rico. They must have him jammed. They're gonna start throwing it, you know, all type of around. But I respect Adam for, you know, just being transparent and letting us know that, you know, his. His company and. But I like. I like the fact that he kept it. Kept it a hundred. He ain't say he's broke. No. I got other ventures and investments. It's just this, this no Jumper multiple businesses. One is this business owning this warehouse. It. It costs money. You know, it's. It's. It's just draining them. And, you know, you have to be financially responsible and. And financially intelligent out here because again, it's, you know, you don't want to be in bad business and losing money. The idea and objective is to make money. So I respect Adam for being transparent.

[Rory]

Yeah, I mean, even like, you know, when I. I'll talk to people on Twitter spaces or just even back and forth with people on ig. You know, a lot of people don't realize that this is actually a full business. Like, this is not just plugging up microphones and talking. There is a lot that goes in to producing this type of content. Takes a lot of people. Takes a staff. It takes obviously a space. It's A big task to take on. And a lot of people say with so much confidence as podcast fans that they think it's just some easy ass shit. And like, like, we're complaining about nothing. And like, I'm like, all right, well, then you go do it.

[Josh]

Oh, when they were doing on Twitter.

[Rory]

Spaces all day, why don't you go do it?

[Josh]

They were complaining during. Just to bounce off of that. Piggyback off that. When Maul was. When we did our prank and they, like, all he did was talk. Why is he so upset? He has to talk again. I'm like, oh, my God, y'all are so stupid.

[Rory]

Like, this changes the whole schedule. It changes PJ schedule. Like, this is a. A whole process that affects so many people. And the energy, it. It's a lot. And I'm glad Adam brought some light into that because like Mal said, we've been to that space. He said he spent $4 million just to purchase it, and I'm sure another million was put in to set everything up in there.

[Mal]

Yeah, it's a great, great warehouse. Great, great setup that Adam has. But I can see it becoming costly over the years. The. The landscape, the money has changed in podcasts and in content creation. So, you know, what was once coming in is not coming in. Meanwhile, you're saying overhead has to go out, out every month and every year. So.

[Rory]

And that's. That's no slight to Adam because that's any business owner in taking a risk based off what the market is at the moment and trying to predict where it's going. Especially during COVID when Adam was doing that. Yeah, Numbers for everybody, your favorite streaming service, everything completely shifted and we could not predict where things were going because we didn't know when people were going to go back outside what people's mind states would even be like. The shit I was obsessed with during COVID is not even in my brain anymore as far as how I operated. Like, I'm just a different person because I'm not confined into my house.

[Mal]

Right.

[Rory]

That was a tough thing to figure out. So while Adam was killing it in Covid. Yeah, things shifted. And that happens within business. And I'll speak for us and our peers in podcasting, when that boom hit, yes, it was great financially, but we also felt across the board we had to compete with real TV shows, real talk shows, where our production value got super, super expensive because we had to look like the other shows. Then streamers started killing, which is great. And myself included was like, damn, they probably their overhead for the month is probably like fifteen hundred dollars and they are getting more views than us.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Things shifted where we thought it had to be super high production because we were competing with, with Netflix, Hulu, all these other places. Streamers came in and showed that, hey, you don't have necessarily have to do that. Vlad has a great fucking business model. Yes, he pays his guests cool, but his overhead is low as fuck. Half the time he'd be on zoom. His overhead is low and getting more views than all of us. That's a great business model, but he had his niche and what he wanted to do. Adam was trying to grow an entire network and a platform which required all the people that he hired and the space that he needed. He wanted multiple shows. So I get the risk that he took, and I don't think we should fault him for that. And I. Transparency. This is an ongoing change with this genre. It changes every fucking day. And it's very tough to get ahead of it or know where it's going to shift because it shifts constantly.

[Mal]

Anybody that's laughing at Adam or, you know, whatever, they just don't. They've never been in business, ran a business, you know, they don't know what it takes to build a business as big as Adam has built his. But it's nothing to, you know, it's. It's part of it. You have to go through changes. You have to downsize. You have to, you know, the same way you have to expand, sometimes you have to downsize. That's just part of business and part of being in the landscape that's constantly changing, constantly evolving. But I thought that, you know, it was. It was cool for Adam to be transparent and just let people know, get ahead of it and say, you know, there's some changes coming. So we start to see things that look different and it's not. Not this person around, that person around. This is why, you know, we're making changes. And again, that's part of business. You know what I mean? So it's nothing to. To be ashamed about or laugh at. I don't think Adam is ashamed of anything that he said or put out us. He wouldn't have did it. But I do, I do respect that transparency.

[Rory]

He doesn't have much shame with anything.

[Mal]

Well, I mean, like people.

[Rory]

Your wife can get one shot.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

You know, can't compliment this man too much.

[Mal]

It is what it is. Nah.

[Rory]

But I, I respect, I respect it too. And I respect, respect anyone that does take risks, especially at the level that Adam has in, in this game. So Hats off to him. And a lot of us find out, like, we're trying to change the market space and create different types of content and add more people into stuff. And a lot of us are realizing, yo, the main show is the only one that's really bringing in any money whatsoever.

[Mal]

Right.

[Rory]

All this other shit is just costing money and not getting any retention rate. Why don't I focus, since I'm an adult now on what the real ROI is here? Yeah, I love doing this other shit. Yeah, I love putting my friends on the stream and this and that. Talk to gang and all that. That. Nah, my wife on camera is really paying the bills. Like, yeah, let's be like. Like, like what? I get it. I love that. I tried it, but I'm not as youthful as I once was. I don't have the same energy. I don't have the same focus. Adam has kids, I believe. Like, yeah, man. So I'm not always going to be dumping all this money into something that clearly, for the last year has not brought me any return or sight of return.

[Mal]

Now, while I do respect. I respect it, I do respect the transparency. I do think, feel like he may have left some things out. I do think just a small part of this might have something to do with that rico. Just a very small part. Things that happened at the building, around the building. I think that Adam wants to get away from that energy. He wants to shut all of that down. Doesn't want to have people have access to him that they once had. I think he just wants to kind of, you know, just move in a different way now. So I do think a small part of, you know, the latest in this whole RICO thing and people that were part of his platform or on his platform at some point or another, I do think some of that does play into it. I think the FBI just subpoenaed him. Was it last week?

[Rory]

Yeah, but you guys called me the Feds for.

[Mal]

I don't know if it was subpoena.

[Rory]

Obvious take ever, that the feds would obviously be contacting him to see where money went to the people involved in this.

[Josh]

Because you let. You gave him a tip.

[Rory]

That's. You're right.

[Mal]

Well, yeah, you were Feds.

[Rory]

The feds weren't even.

[Mal]

They had no clue. They weren't even looking at that. But, you know, and then, not only that, I do think that the, you know, FBI may have asked for, you know, unedited audio. I think they may have asked for unedited video, I'm sure.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

On his platform of People that were on there. So again, I think that, you know, he was very transparent, but I do think there were some things he left out of the mix.

[Rory]

And if he gets subpoenaed for that and wants to stand 10 toes and which I get, even though he's not a street guy, that still. That runs a risk for anyone that's ever going to come on your platform. If the person that's interviewing you or the platform you're going on is not protecting you.

[Mal]

Right.

[Rory]

Like if someone, if, if that happened to us for some reason and the feds asked us for, I would fight against that. Just off the integrity of our show. Nothing to do with criminal shit. But that costs money, right?

[Mal]

Absolutely.

[Rory]

Like we would have to hire a lawyer to fight that subpoena, right?

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Off a case that has nothing to do now. We're just spending money for the fuck of it.

[Mal]

And then I think he said he is. It's another legal thing that he's going through with somebody else that used to be up there he's dealing with. So, you know, he got. He has a lot to deal with. Somebody who seems to be okay financially though and not going through any turmoil is Ruby Rose. She came out and said that she makes 400k a month on OnlyFans in a horrible month. 400k. Now let me just say this. I think Ruby Rose is absolutely beautiful. I think that, you know, we have a lot of men in the world or people in the world that, you know, they just, they don't have any social skills. They know they'll never be around Ruby Rose. So they'll pay to just interact with Ruby as any, any way that they can. Well, they'll pay the.

[Rory]

Is it Ruby?

[Mal]

Well, is it Ruby? It could be her manager answering those, those messages.

[Rory]

Freaky ass manager.

[Mal]

But again you, you playing on people's, you know, just their lack of, you know, whatever you want to call it. They're just in awe of this, this beautiful woman. I've seen a lot of women jumping into like Ruby making 400k on a bad month. I can at least make 50k. Let me tell you right now, ladies, no you cannot. And know you will not make 50k on a bad month. Month. Y'all are going to go on this only fans and spread your balloon not open and be very humbled when you look at that bank account at the end of the month and it's only 600 in there.

[Rory]

And now, and now you're butthole.

[Mal]

Everybody ain't on the Internet. Everybody ain't Ruby Rose. So ladies see these numbers and they start thinking about, oh, well, I can make only fans and I could at least get 800 a week. No, you're going to be very humble and still in debt when you realize that your butt but only brings in $73 a week.

[Josh]

And it has, it really has nothing to do with the way that you look. It has to do with popularity.

[Rory]

Yeah, for sure.

[Mal]

Yeah. But even if you popular, nobody want to see you in nothing sexy or naked. Everybody. That ain't for everybody.

[Josh]

No, I'm saying, I'm saying even if you do have the body, like you.

[Rory]

Could look like Ruby Rose, you don't have access.

[Josh]

You look like Ruby Rose. But if you don't have the access to that fan base, then it doesn't.

[Mal]

Matter that that is true too. But obviously she's built a fan base. But women are just seeing this number and they not paying that no mind. The amount of years that Ruby put into building a following in the fan base, they think that just because they feel like they look good naked and that they're sexy and attractive to them and to whoever they have access to feel like, oh, you look good. They feel like, oh, well, she making that on a bad month, I look good. I can make 50k on a bad month. No, you cannot and no, you will not.

[Josh]

I really, we talked about it before, like within the first like 100 episodes of this podcast. But I really want to manage someone's onlyfans. Like, I feel like I could get people so much money, like, because I feel like that's a job, like the managing of an only fans, talking to all those men and do and making those exchanges and stuff. Because the majority of the people.

[Mal]

I don't think you would be good at that. I don't think you wouldn't want to do that.

[Josh]

I would be amazing.

[Mal]

I don't think you want to interact with people like that. I don't think. I think if your job was to sit there and open messages, sexual messages, and respond in a sexual manner, I don't think you can do that.

[Josh]

It's not me. Because it's not me. What, Getting something off at somebody else.

[Mal]

Correct. It's not you. But I don't, I still don't think that you would want to do that as a job.

[Josh]

If I was taking home 20% of 400k a month, I'd do it.

[Rory]

I'd sit there and do it.

[Josh]

I'll be interacting with people messages for free. And that's why it pisses me off. But 20% of 400k? Yeah, I get real talkative.

[Rory]

And at that point, like, I mean, how much conversation are these horny men really having? You could just have a notes full of. Of generic responses. A lot copy and paste. There's no way those conversations get that deep.

[Josh]

A lot of it is not even just conversations. A lot of it is, okay, you pay the OnlyFans fee, and then you send a message for a specific video. So I'm sure that Ruby Rose has a bunch of pictures and videos just saved up. You go in that folder, toss that shit out for an extra they, oh, send $100 and I'll bend over in a thong and twerk.

[Mal]

What?

[Josh]

Bam. You get $2,000. 2,000 customers to do that for $200 each.

[Mal]

I know that sounds that. I love the way those numbers rolled off your tongue. Let me show you. It's not that easy for that to happen. No, I know you're doing the math. Like, yo, 200 dudes, 100 a clip just to twerk.

[Josh]

I'm sure it's not easy, but what I'm saying is it's possible. And there are women that make good money off only fans. I'm just saying I would want a piece of that pie without having to show my pie.

[Mal]

Nah, show your pie in the sky.

[Josh]

No, I'm cool.

[Rory]

I just want to. I want to serve the pot. I don't want to.

[Josh]

Yeah, you know, I want to say exactly. I want to serve.

[Mal]

You don't want to be your pottery, so you want to be. You want to be a pimp?

[Josh]

What you're saying, that is not.

[Rory]

That's administrative work.

[Mal]

Yeah, that's what Don Juan has been trying to tell y'all for years, but y'all seem to be arguing with facilitator. Yeah, that's what Don Juan been telling y'all.

[Rory]

Does. Does Ruby, like, give it up on her only fans?

[Josh]

I don't know. I haven't subscribed to it.

[Rory]

I just feel like the Internet for how nasty it is would have leaked that already. Like, she's making 400k just to show her.

[Mal]

Yeah, I don't think she's naked.

[Rory]

Good for her.

[Mal]

She's, like, completely new to nothing like that. I just think she these the same she wears on her Instagram.

[Rory]

Oh, well, good for her.

[Mal]

Which is why it's mental health, because you can see those same photos on her Instagram. Right. For free. You got these incels that know that they would never have a chance of speaking to Ruby Rose. Feel like now they have access to an only fans. That's what this. All of this is just praying on mental health. That's all.

[Rory]

It's not like Ruby's like, DMing you from her account.

[Mal]

They don't know that Rory Mental health. They feel like it's her.

[Rory]

But you're paying. I don't know.

[Mal]

This is when they crazy show up to her book signing. And like, we speak every day on only fans talk to me and Ruby looking like, I don't. That ain't me. These. These are the people that are out here in the world that are paying this money.

[Josh]

Scary.

[Mal]

These are the 25amonth. These are the 30amonth guys that are just.

[Rory]

She didn't even claim Drew Ski, who's famous in a relationship, when they actually were. She said he paid for it. And then double bag was like, yeah, now he didn't. We was really, really.

[Josh]

The guys really rock my feelings.

[Mal]

Rory. We've seen people that we know were in relationships, and they asked the girl like, hey, so how was it dating? They're like, oh, I don't know who you're talking about.

[Rory]

Yeah, me. I do that all the time.

[Josh]

I'm about to start doing that.

[Mal]

I don't know who you talking about. Like, who. I'm never in a relationship with them.

[Josh]

Oh, mall. You missed. You missed our conversation. I'm gonna start being mysterious.

[Rory]

We had the same reaction. We all had the same reaction.

[Mal]

What do you mean you're gonna start being.

[Josh]

I'm gonna start, like, being mysterious. Like, oh, nobody knows anything about me.

[Rory]

She's on a podcast.

[Josh]

I could talk about everybody else business. I don't got to talk about my own name.

[Rory]

One mysterious podcaster.

[Josh]

There's mysterious. There's mysterious podcasters.

[Rory]

Like who?

[Mal]

Who? Joe Rogan.

[Rory]

Jorgen tells when he eats a wild boar right before he starts recording.

[Mal]

Who's a mysterious?

[Josh]

But that's. That's mystery because where he get the boar from? How'd he catch it? You don't know. You just know he's he.

[Rory]

You could type in a code 20 off to get.

[Mal]

Joe Rogan doesn't catch boars. Bores catch him. Oh, they just show up at his house like, please eat me.

[Rory]

He runs with the boys.

[Mal]

Yeah, yeah. The boys just show up to Joe Rogan's house. But you're going to start being more mysterious. More mysterious or you want to be mysterious?

[Josh]

I'm going to start being mysterious. I don't feel like I'm mysterious at all. I overshare.

[Rory]

It's a podcast.

[Mal]

No, he so, Roy, that fast? I already know. See? All right, so. So. So what happened? Happened?

[Josh]

Nothing happened.

[Mal]

What happened?

[Rory]

She got a text.

[Mal]

Yeah, I know. She. Damaris, always coming here with these newfound. Had this change of heart. I'm gonna be more mysterious. I'm gonna start going out more. I'm gonna start making more. All right, what conversation?

[Rory]

The guy she liked, liked the wrong reel on her IG of some that she didn't want him to know.

[Mal]

No, she had a conversation with somebody that she liked, and they was like, oh, why are you talking? I don't like when girls talk about stuff like that publicly.

[Josh]

That's not. None of that is true.

[Mal]

So why you want to be mysterious?

[Josh]

I want to be mysterious. I'm not even. So when I came in and I said I wanted to be mysterious, I don't want to overshare. Automatically was like, well, you're on a podcast. You have to. Because all he gives a about is this business, not me as a friend. Right. I was talking about in life, not on the podcast. On the podcast, obviously, I'm doing my job. It's my job to talk. I'm gonna run my mouth. I'm talking about in real life. Like, I feel like. And, you know, a lot of people agree with me on this. I feel like sometimes I work through my thoughts and my emotions. Like how we come on this podcast, we'll get a topic introduced to us, and we'll be thinking about how we feel about the topic in real time. And then by the time we get home, we're like, what I said on the podcast, I don't really, really feel like that about that topic, but I didn't get a chance to really think about it because it was spur of the moment. Right.

[Rory]

That's daily. That comes with the game of daily podcasting.

[Josh]

Yes, that's podcasting. But in real life, I do that with my thoughts and emotions. So I'll come in here and word vomit to Rory, and by the time I get home, I don't even feel that way about what I was word vomiting into him, but in his head, that's who I am as a person. Not maybe not exactly you, because you know me so well, but to the average person. So I'm like, okay, so.

[Mal]

So.

[Josh]

So now when I've passed, I'm past that emotion. I'm past that thought. People that I've spilled those things to are looking at me like, that's not me. So I mean that, like, that's me, or that perception of me is what they have Meanwhile, I've completely, like, changed my mind, and I only thought about that for 10 minutes, and I don't want that anymore. So I'm going.

[Mal]

But that doesn't.

[Rory]

That's also helpful with daily podcasting. You can come back in. We just all have too much pride and ego. We can come back and say, hey, I didn't mean any of that shit I said last episode. Oh, well, I do that. I was wrong as fuck.

[Mal]

Or. Or stand on it.

[Rory]

Oh, that's what we do. Which we shouldn't.

[Mal]

Sometimes the easiest thing that I demand. Now, I'm not mad at you wanting to be more mysterious. I don't think that you have to be. Mysterious, I don't think is the word. I don't think that you people know much about your personal life.

[Rory]

Yeah, I don't think that.

[Mal]

But I would say just don't say nothing you don't truly believe. And if that's. Truly believe, and if that's how you feel and what you're saying is how you truly feel in your real thoughts, cool. No matter if you say it. And then when it goes out, people disagree with you. And me in the comments. Oh, what the fuck? That's crazy. Okay. You feel like that's crazy? I believe it 100% of everything that I said, and I think that's the easiest way to approach it.

[Josh]

I think y'all are completely missing the point that I was not talking about podcasting about that at all. When I come in on podcasting, I stand on what I say and when I do not.

[Mal]

So you say you want to be more mysterious in life.

[Josh]

Yes, that's what I'm saying.

[Mal]

Oh, I can't speak to that because I don't know exactly how not mysterious.

[Josh]

That's what I was talking about. Yes. I wasn't talking about on podcast.

[Mal]

I thought you was talking about on mic.

[Josh]

No, I might.

[Mal]

I don't know what the you mysterious. I don't know what you do when you leave these four doors. So I don't know. It's all a mystery to me. You could go out there and have a kid, I wouldn't know what the you do outside of these four doors. So it's. You're mysterious to me as far as I'm concerned. Like. But I'm thinking to my. On mic, on camera.

[Josh]

Oh, yeah, no, I'm no.

[Mal]

In life. Oh, then that's.

[Josh]

Anybody dating me who has a problem with the things that I say. Mike, Depending on how fine they are, they just gonna have to deal with it.

[Mal]

Depending on how fine.

[Josh]

If you a certain level, if you a certain level change, right, I just come out here, I'll come out here, right? And be like happy Eid.

[Mal]

Look how fast you act right.

[Rory]

Go act right. Grand rising.

[Mal]

Grand rising.

[Josh]

Happy.

[Rory]

I don't know, I thought that's kind of like backwards because why would you want to be more mysterious in your personal life with your friends? Like I could see on the microphone.

[Mal]

Not wanting to help. Listen man, we just gonna keep it, just keep it real. Thursdays. God damn it. The marriage that met somebody and I had a conversation.

[Josh]

That's not true.

[Mal]

And now she feel like, you know what? Nah, I'm gonna be more. You know what? I'm gonna just. Nah. Cause you know, I mean you just be feeling like they know what I be having going on and no, it's not that.

[Josh]

I feel like there are some people. This is more friend related. I feel like I've expressed a lot of like my life or my feelings to people who I no longer speak to. And I wish I could take that information out of their brains.

[Mal]

Oh, but that's what you told my being mysterious. Let me, let me, let me let you know something. Are you only 30? 30? Listen, a lot of these girls you with now that you think is your friends and your homies and your crotes and all this other.

[Josh]

It ain't just girls. It's men too.

[Mal]

Men too, right? And you're gonna look up one day and not know where the they at, what they got going on, what they doing.

[Josh]

And meanwhile they got your deepest darkest secrets.

[Mal]

That's okay. But as long as you ain't do no but as long as it ain't no crazy crazy shit.

[Josh]

That's what I'm talking about.

[Mal]

What crazy did you do? What crazy like honestly, you're not like, what crazy shit could the marriage have.

[Josh]

Possibly Some shit you just would not want people to know.

[Mal]

Yeah, but we all do things. But it's not nothing.

[Rory]

Like I killed the hooker in Vegas together.

[Mal]

Well, I mean, yeah, people should know about that. But outside of killing somebody, outside of like who gives a. Who cares? Like that's my. Like there's so many people that I had had a moment in my life for like maybe 6, 5, 7, 8, 10 years is that I haven't spoken to in probably 6, 7, 8, 10 years. I don't care about none of that. That happened when we was hanging out, running around that I'm like, great. I didn't do no sucker, I never did no foul to nobody. I Never did no vibe. I never violated nobody. So, I mean, I may have kissed a girl, slept with a girl. That looking back, I'm like, damn, I should have never that girl. But who has it?

[Josh]

What if you somebody wife.

[Mal]

I would never do that. Wife like married. I would never do that. Do that.

[Josh]

Damn.

[Rory]

You probably done and didn't know.

[Mal]

Oh, then that's not on me. The onus is the onus. I get it.

[Rory]

Whatever makes you sleep.

[Mal]

The onus is not on me. She slept with somebody while she was married. How?

[Rory]

Darius started this process. She opened her phone and went on Tik Tok and said, hey, guys, I'm going to be more mysterious.

[Mal]

She told people. Tik Tok. She told Tik Tok. You know, I'm just at a point where I feel like, you know, I'm giving y'all too much and I'm going to put it behind a paywall. The mystery is behind Patreon. Subscribe.

[Rory]

Everyone's been asking about my skincare routine, but I want to be more tired.

[Mal]

Of gatekeeping my facial cleanser. I'm tired of gatekeeping my products.

[Rory]

So I'm tired of gatekeeping something that's at Sephora.

[Mal]

Yeah. So the link is in my bio. Put everything together. You guys get to subscribe.

[Rory]

Use my code. I'm doing another love of the game, but use my code.

[Mal]

That's the mysterious. Like the marriage. Mysterious is they don't know when she's gonna drop her next.

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[Mal]

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[Josh]

Oh, wow.

[Mal]

A real person. Yep. I'm here to help you with everything from selecting the perfect window treatments to I've got a complicated project. No problem. We make the complex simple and I can even help schedule a professional measure and install. I didn't realize you did that. Yes. Yeah, we can also send you samples fast and free. Wow.

[Josh]

I mean, I always thought I needed.

[Mal]

A designer to come to my home.

[Josh]

But scheduling's always a Nightmare.

[Mal]

Not with blinds.com, we're on your schedule. And there's no haggling, no pressure, no hidden fees either. Hmm.

[Josh]

I just might have to do more.

[Mal]

Oh, okay. Whatever you need. How about you tell me what you had in mind?

[Josh]

Okay, then. So the first room we're looking at is for guests coming over.

[Mal]

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[Rory]

But who is that person?

[Mal]

How do you find them? Where do you even start?

[Rory]

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[Rory]

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[Rory]

I want to know if Cory Booker's selling diapers yet, because that's good. That's his. Gonna be his money making first.

[Mal]

What is this Cory Booker? He did. He did a filibuster for 24 straight hours. Can somebody quote anything that he said in those 24 hours?

[Rory]

He just did his. David Blaine, politician. I gotta know if he went in there with a diaper already on. Like, it had to been prepared. There's no way here.

[Mal]

He had a little porta potty behind the. Behind the podium. Him.

[Rory]

And I mean, we don't have to fully get into this. I. I do think, like, this is what the Democrats need shake up. I'm serious. They just. They just need something other than. Than Biden's face and Kamala. And, you know, Cory Booker, I think has done great for Newark. And I mean, he's ran before. It just didn't pan out. Yeah, but I mean, listen, man, he's bad and he doesn't need to pee for 25 hours. I'm interested now.

[Josh]

Is there anything you could talk about for 25 hours straight?

[Mal]

Nope.

[Rory]

No.

[Josh]

Nothing?

[Mal]

Nope. I don't care about nothing for 24 hours straight. What about.

[Josh]

What about five hours? Like, if you had to give a five.

[Mal]

I've been doing that for.

[Rory]

Doing it for a decade.

[Mal]

Yeah. 12 years of my life. Yeah, absolutely five hours. Yeah, absolutely 24. 20. There's nothing. No, I'm going. I'm going to lay down, man. I'm not. No. I don't even talk in the house when I get home.

[Josh]

Well, there's no one there, Ma.

[Mal]

But if there is maybe an hour or two conversation. Turn the TV on. No, hide the pickle. You know, go to sleep. This is what it is.

[Rory]

Yeah, talk. Talk about how to hide the pickle.

[Mal]

Yeah, talk about great hiding places for the pickle.

[Josh]

Do y'all like that, though? Like. Like silent dates where you're just, like, silent. No, not silent, but when you're sitting with someone in silence.

[Mal]

If I can sit with you in silence, I like you like a first.

[Rory]

Date or second date. No, but. But that's a big part of me getting along with people. If I can sit quietly and it's not awkward and everyone's fine with it, that means we're in a good space.

[Mal]

Yeah. Like if we. Unless now you can be silent and know that there's some shit going on that y'all need to be talking about, especially now, you know that that's not helpful.

[Rory]

I'm just saying everything's fine.

[Mal]

Everything's fine.

[Rory]

Y'all can sit in silence and know everything's okay.

[Mal]

Yeah, like sitting, you know, watch, I don't know, Top Gun 2 or something. I don't know. Rest in peace. Val Kilmer.

[Josh]

Leo, Rory, did that, did watch Top Gun. We sat in silence to watch Top Gun.

[Mal]

It's creepy. Cuz I watched Top Gun, I think Sunday and you know, obviously Val Kilme was in the movie. He plays Iceman. And I had the thing, I was like, I know he, this wasn't a role. He's really sick in real life.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

And I thought I was like, did Val Kilmer die? Just watch Top Gun 2 against Sunday. And I asked myself, yo, did he die? So I do what everybody else do, go to the Googles. Val Kilmer's still alive, you know, battle throat cancer. Seems to be okay. And literally, what, Tuesday? Yeah, Tuesday they announced that he passed Sunday night. Watched it and thought that to myself. And then Tuesday they announced that he passed.

[Josh]

So you jinxed him.

[Rory]

I don't think it was mall. I think it may have been a key.

[Mal]

I think he was fighting something. But it's just funny how that happened. Like, I literally thought that Val Kilmer died. So I'm like, is he still alive? When I watched Top Gun 2 and then he passed Tuesday. So rest in peace to Val Kilmer, legendary actor.

[Rory]

And I've said it a million times and continue to say Top Gun 2 is incredible, incredible, incredible movie. Went in, went in wanting to hate it. And now I watch it pretty often.

[Mal]

The person so fucking good I was watching, I was watching the movie with people and somebody was like, damn, I kind of want to be in the airport. And I'm laughing because I'm like, it looks cool. I'm like, this is what it makes you feel like in watching it, you feel like. And then like towards the end where they're just over like the ocean fighting, it's like, nah, nah, I'm cool. I was like, yeah, you don't want to be over that open body of water and you get shot down and now you just floating in the fucking ocean.

[Rory]

I'd rather take. Take my chances in the jungle valley.

[Mal]

Where it's not real. Yeah, it's not real. But when it's real, yeah, you don't want that part.

[Rory]

Like the, the days before the war, like when you just got your shirt off playing volleyball. You got a Harley Davidson, like that looks ill. Like you're the man at the local bar. You get a leather jacket, like, yeah, I see the propaganda I want to join.

[Mal]

Here's the thing, and this is one thing that I always get confused with. Was he in the Air Force or the Navy? Navy.

[Josh]

I wanna say Navy.

[Mal]

And what is the difference between the Air Force and the Navy?

[Josh]

One's in the air and one's in the sea.

[Rory]

But see, he had to been Navy.

[Mal]

Because I think you would think the Navy is just sea. Right. I think the Navy is part of that too, though. Yeah.

[Josh]

Cause the Navy SEALs don't like SEAL. Like, they don't be, like, in the water.

[Mal]

They do be in the. What are you talking about?

[Josh]

They do?

[Rory]

Yes.

[Mal]

Navy SEALs be in the water.

[Rory]

They train in San Diego, on the beach.

[Mal]

That's one of the main. That's one the biggest parts of their training. Are you kidding me?

[Josh]

Oh, I didn't know that.

[Rory]

Yeah, but Bud's training, I think whatever the acronym is about underwater demolition or something.

[Mal]

Okay.

[Rory]

But because we've been fighting in the Middle east for so long, they're just more become like a tactical team. That is used the same way like Army Rangers would. They're just the best tactical team.

[Mal]

Okay. So the Navy focuses on maritime operations, protecting ports and oceans, while the Air Force concentrates on air and space capabilities, delivering forces rapidly anywhere in the world. So I guess that you can protect ports and oceans with fighter jets as well as.

[Rory]

I mean, they're on the aircraft carrier, like.

[Mal]

Right. So that's what I'm saying. I always, always got that mixed up. I can never tell all. Are you in the Navy or the Air Force? And what the is the difference?

[Rory]

No, I mean, they're all great in their own way. The Navy is. Is pretty badass, though. No difference and everything.

[Mal]

You guys for sure in the Navy.

[Rory]

But the Navy has a better PR team. I'll put it that way.

[Mal]

Okay.

[Rory]

And Rihanna. Rihanna.

[Mal]

And Rihanna.

[Rory]

That's a cr. That's a CR.

[Josh]

In a great federal bank, a great credit union.

[Rory]

And Trump had some crazy plans for the Navy on Twitter, if you remember. Did he Navy.

[Josh]

Oh, my God.

[Mal]

He was trying to make a Navy. Yeah.

[Rory]

You remember that day on Twitter?

[Josh]

That was a day.

[Mal]

Where do I sign up for the Navy? Because, you know, we ain't.

[Rory]

That's posted it. You don't remember that day on Twitter?

[Mal]

No.

[Rory]

That was like, easily top 10. Was that Twitter days? Yahoo. Like, whoever is their copywriter, they meant.

[Josh]

To say bigger Navy, but Trump has.

[Rory]

Plans for a bigger Navy. Ever the copywriter, Whatever his autocorrect is.

[Mal]

Let's get into that.

[Rory]

Yeah, that's what it was.

[Mal]

Change that.

[Rory]

You can adjust whoever worked at Yahoo.

[Mal]

Yeah, yeah, okay. All right.

[Rory]

Put that. And like, with the picture of the Navy. That was. That was one of the funniest.

[Mal]

Twitter. Navy might be dope, though. That ain't nothing but a big ass yacht. Hot, big ass boat party. That's all that is. We got a dj, food, you know how we giving it up? Tour competition on deck.

[Rory]

It's in Miami, huh?

[Mal]

Nobody getting water.

[Josh]

You peach.

[Mal]

Yeah, nobody will get in the water.

[Josh]

Yo, but I'm looking at Yahoo Finance and, like, how they responded to that. They said, we deleted an early. We deleted an earlier tweet due to a spelling error. We apologize for the mistake. That's so bland for you typing like, you tweeting out nigger. Like, you should have really, like, put your all into that PR response. Just like we about apologize.

[Rory]

Nah, I didn't care about that.

[Mal]

Yeah, but sometimes, you know, you make a mistake, it's like, all right, it's out there now what we gonna do? Y'all know what we meant.

[Josh]

That was the greatest day.

[Mal]

Until they actually roll out with a Navy. They're like, oh, so this is what y'all was trying to do, you know, I mean, like, I'll sign up for the Navy if and when it happens.

[Rory]

What armed forces? Two part question. What armed forces would you guys join and at what war?

[Mal]

Well, I told you the story about. I wanted to. I had dreams or aspirations of being a Navy SEAL when I was younger until I saw the actual training and like that. But that was the only time I ever thought about anything. Armed forces, Navy seals. And I would have wanted to be the guy that went in to go get Osama, because I think I would have stopped him. Like, hey, he had nothing to do with 9 11. Like, I would have went there. Like, yo, he has. He seems like there's a reason he's surprised. He's chilling. This guy has nothing to do with nothing. They're lying to us. He had nothing to do with 911. Yeah.

[Rory]

Reason he's been in Pakistan untouched. Like, everyone's knows, like, yeah, they're gonna demonetize us.

[Mal]

He had nothing to do with that.

[Rory]

Yeah, I mean, SEAL Team 6 did. I'd probably do Navy SEALs. I. I'm not the man for that. But let's say in this hypothetical situation that I would be man enough to do that. The seal, those looks the coolest.

[Mal]

It looks cool. It looks like some cool.

[Rory]

The Army Rangers looks pretty cool, too. The Air Force, the guys that jump out of the. The Planes, paratroopers. But then also the Navy seals do that as well.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Kind of just cover everything, period.

[Mal]

The name wasn't the Navy seals, the movie with Mark Wahlberg that I love. Weren't they Navy seals because they went. They was in Afghanistan. Yeah.

[Rory]

That was Navy SEALs.

[Josh]

You know, you could also, like, and, like, also not be a seal. Like, it'd be Navy people. That's just, like, chilling. Like, Navy, like, otters. They're like, you don't have to be a seal.

[Rory]

I don't know.

[Mal]

But that's like being in the NBA and you like, oh, you an NBA. I'm a ball boy.

[Josh]

No, that's not true. The majority of the Navy are people who aren't SEALs.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

No, but I'm gonna be.

[Rory]

The ones are a whole separate.

[Mal]

Yeah, but they respect you differently. Like, when the seals walk through.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

The women respect the seals differently.

[Rory]

Oh, no. They crush Rush box.

[Mal]

Yeah. Yeah. They respect the city seals, they're like.

[Rory]

The drug dealers of San Diego. They shut down anyway.

[Mal]

We're like, the 1%. Like, you. You. He can't do what I do.

[Rory]

Lone survival.

[Mal]

I can hold my breath for 17 minutes. Like, he can't do that.

[Rory]

Lone survivors.

[Mal]

What? You lone survivor.

[Rory]

Incredible. If you have anxiety, do not watch it the entire movie. Your heart is going to be racing.

[Mal]

I love that.

[Rory]

What's so crazy of, like, war propaganda movies work so well. I, you know, think that entire war was controlled by the billionaires. We're all getting for it. I respect these. These guys in the armed forces because they think they're there for our freedom. So I have nothing but respect for them. But they're being used like the rest of us. But still, that frogman poem gets me to cry.

[Mal]

Yeah. Every time.

[Rory]

Like, I have no connection to that. Why am I crying?

[Mal]

I felt like a frogman in my living room.

[Rory]

He was hopping around.

[Mal]

Yeah. I was like, yo, you pack that. You pack that wound and you get the move.

[Rory]

I'm watching. Like, this is but tears running down my face.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

During Lone Survivor, who was the guy that. That Bradley Cooper played?

[Josh]

Matt? American Sniper.

[Rory]

Yeah. Rest in peace to that gentleman. It was also found out a lot of stuff he said was bullshit and insane. That entire time, I felt so American. Yeah, but it's. It's Iraq. This is bullshit. And you're killing kids. And he lied about a bunch of this shit. This is awful.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

We should not be even thinking about this. But I want to wrap up an American flag around me when I watch it.

[Mal]

You have to. You have to sleep in the American flag after.

[Rory]

So, like, look at these savages and what they're doing to white America. When you.

[Josh]

At. When you ask, like, what you would be like if I had to choose, I would probably be like a sniper in the army.

[Rory]

Yeah, Sniper would be cool.

[Mal]

Yo, what's up with you? Damaris.

[Rory]

What she wants me to be.

[Mal]

She want to be a sniper. Like, you want to be here, but not here. You want to be all the way down there just killing, but nobody knows you killing them.

[Josh]

Yeah. Like, why the would I want to be the one where everybody know I'm who Killing them like that would make no sense.

[Mal]

Run down, Let them run down. Big business. I'm cool.

[Josh]

I don't want to run out.

[Mal]

You want to stand out. You want to be 100 yards away.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

I think I'd want to be part of, like, the Canadian army in World War I.

[Mal]

The Mounties.

[Rory]

Just nothing.

[Mal]

Just.

[Rory]

Just. Just safe and insignificant.

[Mal]

Protecting the maple trees. Yeah.

[Rory]

Yeah. I. I don't know. World war. World War II. I feel like I'd have more pride. That may be the one. I'd want like an Army Ranger in World War II. I feel like I was protecting my family and freedom at that time.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

These new wars, like, I'd never even heard of Vietnam. What do we. Why am I going over there?

[Mal]

What was the war with Brad Pitt inside the tank.

[Rory]

Oh, with Shia LaBeouf?

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Fire. That was a very good movie.

[Mal]

Great movie. The tank broke down. Tank was busted. They were coming down. The ops was coming down. He said it was like 200 of them coming. They was like, we got Fury. He's like, we gotta get out of here. We gotta leave. And Brad Pitt was like, nah, I'm staying with the tank. Like, fuck that.

[Rory]

And it was all. At that point, you gotta stay with the tank. You have to imagine, like, trying to survive of a family, and then one idiot's like, nah, I'm staying with the tank. Y'all go ahead now I gotta stay with the tank.

[Mal]

I can't leave. We can't leave him. That's not. Yeah, we can't leave him here.

[Rory]

Turn poor Shia LaBeouf into a. To a monster.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Innocent soul.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

I don't want to murder any children. Then he was just murking kids by the end. Great movie, Tom. Other underrated one. Fury. Tom Hanks when he's this, like, submarine. They got to go from New York to. To London. Thank God for planes.

[Mal]

Mission Impossible.

[Rory]

No, not Tom Cruise. Tom Hanks.

[Mal]

Oh, Tom Hanks.

[Rory]

Oh, it's something about like the German. German submarines. They have to go through some area around London. Greyhound, maybe. There's a lot of underrated war movies that always just make us look like the heroes.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Like the Germans had a. They had a real bone to pick.

[Mal]

There was another movie I forgot that was that it was like a submarine movie and that looked crazy. That was like one of the best movies I've seen out of like. I mean, Crimson Tide is obviously a classic.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

But I forgot the movie that I watched and it was like you could actually see the submarines like shooting under the wall. It was crazy.

[Rory]

Pearl Harbor. You can see that too. Which was nuts.

[Mal]

Great movie. Pearl Harbor. Great movie.

[Rory]

We should do a.

[Mal]

Like a.

[Rory]

A war watch party sometime.

[Josh]

How sad and depressing. I'm like, cool.

[Rory]

War movies are the best.

[Mal]

Yeah. I love them.

[Rory]

It's. It's not even really close. But in way more important news. I don't know how we even. We're talking about Cory Booker. When we finally got the answers we were looking for just recently, we were talking about on don't know Ball Crime Mobile and what they have done for the hip hop genre. Close to heart. Diamond is to me as a lyricist, MC and purist of this genre that I love. I didn't know Kenyon Dixon was going to be the one to break the news.

[Mal]

So Kenya tweeted, finding out crime broke up because Princess lied and told diamond that they saw Michael Jackson at Six Flags and he wanted to get on knuck if he Buck is sending me dog. Dog. What would MJ be doing on Nook if you bought to me that looks.

[Rory]

Like that's real friends. That's how you with your friends.

[Mal]

You have to. But obviously diamond wasn't in a space to be joking. She probably that was like a career changing lifechanging feature that she thought that they had and you would have heard.

[Rory]

If Michael was at Six Flags.

[Mal]

Nothing about that. What would Michael Jackson be doing at 6 Flag?

[Rory]

Can we play the clip?

[Josh]

Me and my brother went to Six Flags, right? We came home, we called diamond. We told her we saw Michael Jackson at Six Flags and that Michael Jackson wants to get on Nook if you book and that he just left our house and she needs to come listen to his verse. And she ran all the way from her house to ours and she believed us and it hurt her.

[Mal]

I'm sorry.

[Josh]

I'm sorry. We told you Michael Jackson.

[Mal]

Are you being serious right now?

[Rory]

I'm so serious.

[Josh]

I'm so serious.

[Rory]

How.

[Mal]

How old Were y'all when the start of crying you told her Michael Jackson was. What is it? Did that possibly print?

[Rory]

Wait, they were 16 in them early days. Yeah. I mean, they put music out after knuck if you buck. So I guess they. They figured out this problem they had.

[Mal]

Amongst each other, but they saying that's why crime broke up.

[Rory]

I mean, maybe there was a breakup in between that I missed.

[Mal]

Yeah, that's some funny though, bro. I'm not gonna lie. I would have been mad too. But we ain't gonna not be friends behind that. Like, we ain't gonna break up the group. I would have been he it you some of yo ma. Michael Jackson just left the studio recorded, and I wasn't here. And I run down here and this flex Alexander. Yo, please, I will be mad, but we ain't gonna not pod again.

[Rory]

My. My older cousin told me my grandfather was a serial killer when I was young. And I believed it for like a couple months and was terrified of my grandpa, like, who didn't even want to go near him. And he didn't understand why. Still talk to my cousin today? It's fine.

[Mal]

Yeah, it's.

[Rory]

It's totally okay.

[Mal]

Yeah, Play some pranks, man.

[Rory]

I just think it's funny that not only do they see Michael, he wants to get on knuckle if you buck. He came to the house, and that's where he laid the.

[Mal]

He laid the vocals. He laid the vocals at the crib.

[Rory]

You gotta come hear Michaels first.

[Mal]

Yeah. Some shit is just like. All right, man. You really believe that? You think that Michael Jackson pulled up to the crib and laid vocals in the closet?

[Rory]

Damaris, I. We may need more time. This could be a next week patreon thing.

[Josh]

Okay.

[Rory]

Do we write the Michael Jackson nuk ify buck?

[Josh]

Oh, for sure. Oh, for sure.

[Rory]

Is that our next battle?

[Josh]

Oh, for sure.

[Rory]

Michael on knuck.

[Josh]

If you buck for sure, I'm down. I'mma smoke you at Am I allowed to.

[Mal]

But Mike ain't rapping, though. He's singing n Michael.

[Josh]

He got a little tone, like a little double time flow.

[Mal]

Show me Michael Jackson's double time flow. Pull up the record right now.

[Rory]

No, Mike got a full.

[Mal]

Don't tell me what he got. Pull up the record.

[Rory]

Mama say mama. That's. Come on. That's rap rapping. That's not rapping.

[Mal]

But that ain't even Mike saying it. That's like a question.

[Rory]

Blew my mind when I found out.

[Mal]

That wasn't Michael Mike saying that. Show me a verse where Mike is in his double time flow.

[Rory]

There's got to be something.

[Mal]

No, it's not.

[Josh]

You know, you did in anything I want I get. Come on now. He get into his. His bag a little bit.

[Mal]

That's a hook. He's singing the hook. That's not. He not rapping that. What are y'all talking about?

[Rory]

I feel like is the bridge on Billie Jean. He might have got a little 12 off.

[Mal]

The closest Mike ever came to rapping is when at the end of J verse when he was like, yo, Mike, he's like, I don't think they're ready for this one.

[Rory]

Please.

[Mal]

That was the closest Mike ever came to rapping. Yeah, rap. Come on, man.

[Rory]

But we know he could have. I mean, he would have approached Nuck if you buck in a.

[Mal]

In a very artistic way.

[Rory]

A double top.

[Mal]

Because Mike heard that and was just like, I have to rap on this. This is like the most incredible skin head dead head.

[Josh]

Everybody going bad intuition allegation. Everybody conversation in the suit on the. Everybody dog food. All I want to say is that they don't really care about us.

[Rory]

That's bars. That's rapping.

[Josh]

Stop.

[Rory]

That might be the same BPM as Knuck if you buck.

[Mal]

It's definitely. Definitely not. Definitely the not. All right, well, y'all have fun at it. Let me hear what y'all come up with for Michael Jackson on Knuck if you buck. Let's hear it.

[Rory]

Can I download Mike ad libs and play them during my verse?

[Mal]

Sure, yeah. Anything to help the. Anything to help you land the verse. Whatever you need.

[Rory]

I'm gonna need a week for that one. All right, before we get out of here, do we have any voicemails? Did we miss anything? Fyre fest update. I mean, me and justice over the weekend, talks were going. Billy said it's going to change all of our lives. So me, like, if you guys want to come just. And I. We're booking our tickets as soon as that location is announced.

[Mal]

Firefest. I definitely got to be there for that. I got to see Billy on everybody again. Baloney sandwiches under a tent.

[Rory]

I mean, we can get the. We can get the villa if. If it's three of us. We were gonna get individual tents, but if you want to roll, we could get a villa.

[Mal]

Nobody's me, you, and justice in the villa. Nobody will have a villa. It won't be any villas available.

[Rory]

There's not an island.

[Mal]

There's no fucking fire fest happening, man. All right?

[Rory]

We have voicemails.

[Mal]

You've got mail. Hey, guys. Huge fan of the pod.

[Josh]

I guess I'm just looking for a.

[Mal]

Little bit of advice.

[Josh]

So I met this cute guy. We were sending each other messages, flirty text messages, for, like, three days straight. And everything was going good. I think on the last day, things got a little spicy in the text messages. And then one or two days go by, we haven't text each other, and I reach out to him, trying to be flirty. And, like, I kind of felt like he was kind of being distant. And of course, he's the one who, like, initiated all the flirty messages. So when I tried to do that, now I kind of feel like I have to wait for him to reach out to me. And I'm just kind of wondering, like, I don't know. I feel like there was, like, post text clarity. And now I feel really weird because I have to be cool and, like, wait for him to text me. Because even. Even though I enjoyed our messages, like, I feel like I have to wait for him. So I'm just kind of wondering, like, why are guys like this?

[Rory]

Like, why does this happen?

[Josh]

Why do I feel like I have.

[Rory]

To play it so cool even though.

[Josh]

I enjoyed our conversation and want to keep being flirty with him? Thanks, guys, for the advice in advance.

[Rory]

I mean, balloon, not. And then say, the ball's in your court.

[Mal]

Yes, in that invisible ink, man.

[Josh]

Do not do that, baby.

[Mal]

Why not?

[Rory]

Don't do that.

[Josh]

Don't do that.

[Mal]

They're ready.

[Rory]

Consistent with the flirting. Then, yes, send the consensual balloon knot.

[Mal]

But no, no, I don't have to be the balloon knot. But, you know, send it in little invisible ink. Little.

[Rory]

You know, I think some people just are bored for a few days.

[Mal]

Or his girlfriend finally came back from vacation.

[Rory]

That could be it as well.

[Mal]

Now he doesn't have the free time that he once had.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Or he could be dealing with something mentally and he's just no longer in the mood to flirt. There's so many different reasons. This is why I hate dating. Because I feel exactly how she feels. Like it's very difficult. Difficult. It's very difficult trying to see. Okay, I want to let this guy know that I like him. So I don't want him to feel like he's just chasing me so that I give some back. But he doesn't give it to me the way that I pause. Want him to give it to me. So now I feel like I'm, like, chasing him, and I don't like that. And it makes me feel weird. So should I. It's terrible.

[Mal]

Girl.

[Josh]

Just spin the block on your ex. That's what I say.

[Mal]

Of course. That's what the marriage says. Do not spend the block when you ex. Let that man be happy in peace. Move on and find somebody new.

[Rory]

Let a few days go. And I don't know, if you see something that reminds you of a conversation y'all had a few days ago, like, hey, I thought of this, and if there's no response, then move the on. Yeah, yeah, there's nothing. And there's also nothing wrong with triple texting or double texting. Like, if we need to get that mentality.

[Mal]

Yeah, that's ego.

[Rory]

That's all ego.

[Mal]

That's ego.

[Josh]

Yeah. But sometimes. Sometimes you need. Ego is good because, like, I don't know. I know how y'all always say that. Y'all. Y'all like, oh, I don't care if a girl is, like, you know, showing interest in me. But that really does turn some guys off where it's like, oh, she's sweating me. Like, it's just. It's a very sticky game to play. It's. It sucks.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

But by just saying, like, hey, how's your day going?

[Mal]

Yeah, starting a conversation.

[Rory]

Yeah, it's not thirsty.

[Josh]

Like, if you didn't respond to my last. Last text message, and I text you again like, hey, how's your day going? Because if you don't respond to that one, then I'm. That's my 13th reason.

[Mal]

But again, again, your ego is making it seem like he's just not responding to you because he's not into you when they're really. He could be going through a whole life crisis right now, and obviously he doesn't want to share and put that.

[Josh]

Which one is most likely likely life crisis? The life crisis is not more likely than the guy just not being lost.

[Mal]

His job, got evicted, fam. He's sick. Family member sick. That happens.

[Josh]

That's the real life does happen. But that's not a regular thing. That's not.

[Mal]

Like, that is a regular thing.

[Josh]

That's not the go to. That's not the. So every. So you're basically telling me when I hear hoof beats to think zebras, not horses. Like, no, like, the most likely thing. It could be both. But which one is it more likely?

[Mal]

Well, if you don't put your ear to the ground, you never hit a buffalo coming.

[Rory]

That's true.

[Mal]

So it is what it is.

[Rory]

That's a great Benny bar.

[Mal]

Why did she.

[Josh]

Why. Why did you call here for advice, babe?

[Mal]

Why.

[Josh]

Why here?

[Rory]

Okay. Also put in Perspective Thursdays for US Pre production two episodes Pick clips Pack up. Leave brain is fucking fried. Don't want to necessarily talk to someone. That doesn't mean I don't like a person. I was not on my phone for seven hours. Hours. Then I've communicated for those seven hours and I just want my brain to rest. No, I don't feel like having a full text or FaceTime conversation with somebody no matter how much I like them.

[Josh]

That's cat, because I know you. And if you like somebody and they text you right now, the moment we're on our break and we go dip our little fingers in our guacamole, you're gonna text them back and say, hey, I'm recording right now. I'll hit you later. And even, even if you don't hit them later, you're gonna say, hey.

[Rory]

Oh no, I'm not. I'm not saying that somebody can't send a simple text of what they're doing. Exactly that full blown conversation. Yeah, maybe I could only do that on Saturday and Sunday. Maybe I can only do that Tuesday.

[Josh]

That makes sense.

[Mal]

So no, I'm just on the side of some people go ghosts for different reasons. It's not always because of you. That's all I'm not saying, you know, what I'm saying is law. But that happens. People, people get distant and communication drops because they got real life going on.

[Josh]

So your advice to her is to text again and see where it goes from there.

[Mal]

And just text like, hey, how are you know, I haven't heard from you in a couple days. Hopefully everything's cool. Like, you know, like see, look, you see how you start doing the snake soon as you can't, you can't, you can't. You ha to show some type of care and emotion. Somebody.

[Josh]

It's not true. It's not about care and emotion. Because if I know that you care about me, I'll give you all the care in the world, all the grace in the world. But if I'm trying to figure out if you were just bored, like if you just happen to be texting me. Because that does happen. Some men get bored and they just text you and then once their boredom is over, you're over here like, oh, giggling oh, he was texting me and you would have text him and he shows that it's like, oh, that was like a two day thing. Like please leave me alone. That's damaging to people in their ego. So yeah, they can be afraid of that response. Response.

[Rory]

Or I mean I'm Saying he should communicate this. But what if he doesn't want a pen pal? Like, what if we had three days of flirting back and forth and you just seem like somebody just wanted to text. Like, we're not seeing each other. I'm not doing this.

[Josh]

Well, yeah, I mean, they live in the same city.

[Mal]

Did she say.

[Josh]

I don't. I. It didn't sound like she did. She kept saying flirty text messages or whatever, but, like, ask me out, then the.

[Mal]

Yeah, but if you don't. Well, yeah, if. Even if you don't live in the same city, I could try to set something up, a date to kind of link up and meet up and have some fun or whatever, so.

[Josh]

Girl, if he wants.

[Rory]

The pressure of texting is too high.

[Josh]

It's. That's why I don't text. That's why I FaceTime.

[Mal]

People put too much into.

[Rory]

That's even more pressure.

[Josh]

Not pressure.

[Mal]

FaceTime.

[Josh]

Yeah, I FaceTime. I'm not texting you all day. I got shit to do. Let's.

[Rory]

FaceTime's even tougher. I can't do the shit I'm doing.

[Mal]

I can't take my phone down. I gotta hold my. I gotta prop my phone and be sitting right in front of my phone talking to you. Like, I got to do.

[Josh]

So if we're going back on flirty text messages, that'll take 10, 15 minutes. I can call you and say exactly what I want to say. Get that over with. You see how pretty my face is? You get the riz. And then I get up out of there, and the next time I see you, you. It'll be in person. But texting all day. I'm not texting all day. It takes too much, I think, for me, texting, just texting all day.

[Mal]

I'm not. I'm not doing that. Yeah, not all day.

[Josh]

I can't have a full text conversation. That's insane to me.

[Mal]

But yeah, eventually we do have to FaceTime. We got to talk. I need to see your face. I need to hear you say something. I need to see your eyes when you say something.

[Josh]

See if I'm lying.

[Mal]

Yeah. Got to gotta look in your face when she say certain. Don't let her text certain, fellas. No, no, no. Call her. Say that again.

[Josh]

Like, what? Them all.

[Mal]

Anything.

[Rory]

They be lying face, too, though.

[Mal]

Oh, yeah, those. Those are the real demons that could look you right in your face. Those are the ones that could beat the lie detectors. They know how to control their breathing. They're like Steph Curry's. Those ones they know how to slow their heart down in the fourth quarter. You know how to slow their heart rate down in the fourth quarter.

[Rory]

Ocean's 11 when he steps on the nail in the so he can beat the all these ch stepping on nails.

[Mal]

They sleeping on nail beds to Usually.

[Josh]

Our producer Josh is always there cackling this whole conversation. He just been sitting there staring.

[Rory]

Yeah cuz Josh, he's a hurt soul as well. He's like the rest of us Josh.

[Mal]

Girls lives in California. She ain't answered the phone in three hours. So now he over there. He wor see he going through what he he's in a longdistance relationship. I know how that could get he shaved all his facial hair off. Stressed.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Done picked a hole in his bed. I know. I know how it go. Josh. I've been there. I've been there before. My don't get so sorry.

[Josh]

Yo Jo.

[Mal]

Like wifey she ain't texting back fast enough. I don't like that. Ain't that much photos in the Legos for the world, right? LeBron don't need that many photos.

[Rory]

And that three hour time difference will with your head when there's no communication.

[Mal]

Yeah. Hell yeah.

[Rory]

Like, all right, I get it. It's early. It's 8am here. She's not up yet. Then it starts to get to like noon over here and you're like it's a weekday.

[Mal]

Yeah, Lakers ain't even playing tonight. Yeah, like what you doing? You ain't taking no photos.

[Rory]

Oh and then, then don't. Don't wake up at 7am and text her. And she reply, damn, caught you at It's 4am where you at?

[Mal]

What the you miss if you missed. If it's a long enough gap, if it's hours between text message, you can't just respond and a text hey, no, you got to call me. You got to FaceTime me. I got to know where you at right now. Seven hours. And my text went on.

[Josh]

That's why you got to wait till you get home, get fully under the COVID covers, mush your hair up and be like hey you. I see you text me. That's what I heard that women do.

[Mal]

Yeah. And then that's when I text back like hey, I saw you just walk in your building and just dating. So now we both now we both panicking. Now we both panicking. Now we both now what? Now we both dating.

[Rory]

Seems way too rough. Because even if I did, after a long day text in a respectful way.

[Mal]

It'S not rough when people are being honest with each other. Dating is only rough when both of y'all are lying to each other.

[Rory]

Let's say I am being completely honest and I am burnt after a days of podcasting and I just want to lay the down, didn't get much sleep the night before and say, hey, had a long day. Let's just talk tomorrow. I'm going to get some rest. I'll even send a selfie from the bed. I guarantee you. I end up in the group chat saying, girl, he's being weird. He's being shady.

[Josh]

Well, not if you're dating mature adults. Mature adults don't behave like that.

[Mal]

Mature adults, again, being honest with each other and not. But there is a thing of patterns. And if you create a pattern with somebody that you're dating and talking to and you usually facetime before bed or, you know, you create this pattern, if that changes, you know, for a day, you don't facetime or you don't say good night, text good night, whatever that pattern is that you created, then you. You can only understand that it's going to be some type of like.

[Rory]

I agree with that. My pattern is I'm always tired. Some days I just can't fight through it.

[Mal]

Right, I get that.

[Rory]

No, listen, I'm always exhausted. Just some days I ignore it and talk to you.

[Mal]

Right, I get that part. But express that part is what I'm saying.

[Josh]

Like, I get text messages like, yo, Damaris, I'm exhausted. I can't talk right now. I'll talk to you tomorrow. I'm. That's fine. Because I have times where I'm exhausted and my phone's on D and D and I just want to watch Grey's Anatomy. I don't want to talk to you like normal humans have that and they can understand that.

[Mal]

Yeah, people have healthy relationships. I just think that it's not. People don't talk about healthy relationships much. People don't repost healthy relationships.

[Rory]

That's true.

[Mal]

People have very healthy relationships.

[Rory]

They're too. They're too busy being happy.

[Mal]

Yeah. They don't give a about social media about this shit. We happy in real life. Like we home, not speaking, bored, but we bored together.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Farting under the covers together.

[Rory]

Healthy.

[Josh]

I miss my farting relationship.

[Mal]

Yeah. Let that gas out. Go ahead, girl. I know what you smell like. Yeah, I know what you smell like when you fart.

[Rory]

You've been in a non farting relationship. Me, Anyone in this room.

[Mal]

Oh, yeah. I mean, there's women that I don't know with that, but that was like, you know, little flings. Yeah, little flings, but like real relationships with like, I got shit at her crib. She got shit at my. Oh, we fart. Yeah, Like, I know when your period. I know when your period is coming, by the way, you fart.

[Josh]

Ma make everything funny. Yo, I'm just real talk.

[Mal]

If you with a girl, like, you really with her, you saying fart. You like, yo, you on your. You on your monthly. Like, you.

[Rory]

You date two.

[Josh]

Rory.

[Mal]

What?

[Josh]

See, that's why farting right now, date two is crazy.

[Mal]

See, that's why he be going crazy, ready to hurt himself and bring harm to.

[Josh]

She got pheromones in her fart and shit.

[Mal]

He all in. Like, he played. He playing poker with his cards up. Two days in, he doing. No, I got a fart.

[Rory]

I got a fart.

[Mal]

You got to keep lying.

[Josh]

I don't have like an Amy on the second date. Unless it's.

[Rory]

I don't fart on. First of all, I don't fart on any date. Like, I'm not like, like on the one chair. Like, yo, here, this pull my.

[Mal]

Not like that.

[Rory]

I'm saying if she's staying over and she stayed over a few nights and we're on like date two of going out. Yeah, I'm a fart if I have to fart. Yeah, look weird.

[Josh]

Nah, I'm cool, bro. I need just. I hate when people make a show.

[Rory]

Out of it like a fucking six year old. But yeah, I'm going to fart.

[Josh]

No, don't. Don't let your representative leave too quick. Like, keep him around for at least five days. I need a representative for at least five dates.

[Mal]

The only time I fart around a girl that's not my girl is like, if I'm sleep.

[Josh]

You look like you fart in your sleep.

[Mal]

Oh, I let it go in my sleep. Oh, man.

[Rory]

How do you know?

[Mal]

Cause I can feel the vibration. I'm like, I just let one go.

[Rory]

It's in your dream.

[Mal]

Yeah, you know, I'm like, damn, I hope she ain't hear that.

[Josh]

You fuck around and be in the bed with a dude and fuck around and fart and wake yourself up. It's this to see.

[Mal]

That's why you gotta fall asleep. That's why you gotta fall asleep watching. Watching Heat, the shootout scene.

[Rory]

Turn the volume up no matter what. Yeah, it's like farting on a plane. Nobody knows.

[Mal]

Nobody knows, man. She might smell it. Like, I think this just can't prove it. Didn't hear it. Can't prove it was me. Maybe it's you. We don't know who it is. Now we under the covers, guessing like, I don't know. I didn't eat that.

[Rory]

I mean, I still. I don't be like gassy like that where it's like an issue, but if I have to fart, I'm gonna fart.

[Josh]

Just go to the bathroom and fart. Why do.

[Mal]

Why, if I'm in bed? Good.

[Josh]

Yes, go.

[Mal]

Sleep.

[Josh]

Well, not if you're. If you're asleep, obviously you don't have any control over it. But I'm talking about Rory. Like, if we're laying in the bed cuddling and it's like our third date, bro. Go to the bathroom.

[Rory]

No, but first of all, see, that's. That's just having some coof. Like, if we're cuddling, yes, I will hold that fart. But like, if I just need to fart and we're just chilling, I'm gonna fart. That's like having. If I'm in a full blown relationship and we're. I have to fart, I'm gonna hold that fart because that's just couth. But just chilling. Yeah, you gonna hear this fart?

[Josh]

No, that's crazy.

[Mal]

Two days in.

[Josh]

That's crazy.

[Rory]

Dates. That's dates, dates, dates. Two days.

[Mal]

But how long. How far apart are the dates?

[Josh]

It don't matter. I don't know you like that. You still got like, beauty marks I haven't seen. Go to the bathroom. Take that fart to the bathroom, bro.

[Mal]

Yeah, I can't fart in front of you. On.

[Rory]

I think it's more annoying for people that snore on the first night. Go get a mask. Figure that out.

[Mal]

Yeah, but I don't have. No, you shouldn't.

[Rory]

The way people say you shouldn't be dating if you broke. You shouldn't be dating if you snoring.

[Mal]

Yeah, but I don't have no mouth tape, so. Put duct tape on.

[Rory]

You don't travel with that.

[Mal]

No, no, I don't.

[Rory]

You don't put the condom in the. In the hoe bag?

[Mal]

I'm a black man. I can't travel with tape. They gonna be like, yo, what's he up? I can't travel with no tape.

[Josh]

I find snoring really attractive. Women snore. I find it really attractive. Especially if I like, really, really like you or love you. Like the fact that you're that piece of.

[Mal]

No matter. If you like that, he could do anything. Shut the. Shut your ass. I'm sick of Damaris with her. If he fine, he could fart. Like, I don't care how fine is he? Shut the up the. I'm sick of her, man. Just shut your ass up. She always got that prerequisite, like, yo, if he fine, if I really like him, like, shut the up.

[Josh]

I'm just being honest.

[Rory]

My kitchen floor.

[Mal]

Yeah. If I really like what men do.

[Josh]

Women will put up with damn near any.

[Mal]

They on the kitchen floors.

[Rory]

That's a real man trying to take masculinity away from us. We on the floor.

[Mal]

Oh, my God.

[Josh]

I'm just telling y'all. When women really like you like that, it's a lot they will let you get away with. Except me seeing your ass crack. I don't give a how much I like you. I better not ever see the crack of your ass.

[Mal]

Like, ever.

[Josh]

Like, ever.

[Rory]

You ever showered with a man?

[Josh]

No, not like that. I mean, you got pants on, and I see the crack of your ass. I'm cool.

[Mal]

Why, though?

[Josh]

I'm cool. I can't undo the ick. I know it's not reasonable. I'm not saying that it's reasonable. I can't undo that ick.

[Mal]

I can understand it being an ick if it's not your man. Like, if it's not a guy you're with, you like, yo, pull your pants up. But if your man is around the house, he got his basketball shorts on and, like, he bend down the fucking. Y'all broke a glass. He bend down to sweep it up the crack. Like, you know, he ain't got no drawers on under his basketball shorts. You icked. I love you.

[Josh]

I'm sitting there lick.

[Mal]

You was just sitting there licking all over this man. Now it's because I'm sweeping up something.

[Josh]

Listen, you could have the. I'm still gonna stay with you. I'm not gonna leave you. I'm not gonna make you feel like. But I'm gonna go.

[Mal]

That's cool. Yeah.

[Rory]

She's gonna cheat now.

[Mal]

Yeah. Yeah. She's gonna find somebody else. Girl, this got his ass crack out.

[Rory]

She was someone that also has an ass crack.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Josh]

He texted his group chat. Like, she being weird and distant. I don't know what's going on.

[Mal]

Whole time, he just bent down to sweep up some.

[Rory]

You broke some.

[Mal]

You broke some. You broke. And my shorts were sagging and my crack was out while I was sweeping a broken glass. And now all of a sudden, I'm in your group chat. Girl, this walking around here, ass crack out. I'm Cleaning up your like. What are you talking about?

[Rory]

Damn that women have the craziest rough era for you. When all the Brooklyn guys wore the short white tees with the Hermes belts. We always saw they ass all the time.

[Mal]

N. But if he was fine, it's all good. Like Damaris don't care as long as he fine and she like him, it's all good.

[Rory]

Fair enough.

[Mal]

Pass.

[Rory]

Well, this was fun. Everyone enjoy their weekend. Have a safe weekend.

[Mal]

Yes.

[Rory]

Think the weather's supposed to be okay?

[Mal]

It's going to be shitty. It's raining until Tuesday, but it's all right.

[Rory]

They're not streaming Dreamville Fe. Did I read that correctly?

[Josh]

And I stream.

[Rory]

Yes.

[Mal]

Oh, I'm sorry. Damn, man, it was really looking.

[Rory]

I could have misinterpreted that, but I was at least excited to watch the stream because I, I, I don't think I'm gonna make the trip. I think I'm too tired.

[Josh]

Wow. If I drive, will you go with me?

[Rory]

That would be like.

[Mal]

Driving in North Carolina is sick.

[Rory]

I've done it before. It's. That's a drive. Especially on the week. On a Friday.

[Josh]

Oof. On a Friday. It's crazy. Now we could fly.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Well, y'all have fun at Dreamville Fest.

[Rory]

I'm saying now that I probably's not going.

[Josh]

I begged him, too. He doesn't want to go with me.

[Mal]

Well, I mean, listen, if you're going, have fun. Whoever's going, if you're listening and watching, have fun. Tell Jermaine I said hello.

[Josh]

And don't tell Jermaine that y'all.

[Mal]

Why don't.

[Josh]

Just don't tell Jermaine.

[Rory]

Yeah, he said on his Twitter, no, it won't be streaming this year, which sucks that I, I. They always did a good job with their streams, but.

[Mal]

All right, well, you know why I didn't know E don't want the safe to happen last year.

[Rory]

Someone's catching on a phone anyway, if.

[Mal]

He decides to give another speech. Eve don't. Eve like, nah, we ain't streaming that. If you got to be there to hear it. He ain't. What?

[Rory]

They can take everyone's phones.

[Josh]

He going to turn the Wi Fi off in the whole the whole 20 mile ra.

[Mal]

Yeah, it'll be easier to unplug the the mic than it is to unplug the stream.

[Rory]

Facts. Well, yeah, so I'll probably just be chilling.

[Mal]

Well, whatever you're doing, be safe, be blessed. We'll talk to you soon. I'm. That he's just Ginger. Peace.

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[Rory]

PayPal lets you pay all your pals like your graduation gifters.

[Mal]

Who's paying for the mattress topper?

[Rory]

You mean the beanbag chair?

[Mal]

Aren't we getting a mini fridge?

[Rory]

Can we create a pool on PayPal? It's lets us collect the money before we buy.

[Mal]

Ooh yes, that's smart.

[Rory]

Glad we can agree on something easily. Pool split and Send Money with PayPal.

[Mal]

Get started in the PayPal app. A PayPal account is required to send and receive money. A balance account is required to create a pool. Are you still quoting 30 year old movies?

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