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Rory
No Warrior now We are back. Presented by Boost Mobile.
Ryan
Whoa, we presented by who?
Rory
Southside outside. Got the whole city behind us. Whoa, you don't even remember that commercial. You wasn't outside.
Ryan
Absolutely.
Rory
You don't remember when Game, Ludacris and Kanye tore the commercial streets down?
Ryan
I was outside with a Boost Mobile when I was doing the same thing. You wasn't outside with a Boost. No, you were not.
Rory
I was of age.
Ryan
No, you was not, bro.
Rory
Contractually I can't say the phone that we. That I had, but I was outside when. Yeah, I was Southside outside when that came out. That was. I used to wait for that commercial.
Ryan
No, I was definitely outside with the Boost Mobile. Couldn't wait.
Rory
What happened to like, rappers doing commercials where they had to come up with an original song? Like, even when 50 and Jay Z did the Reebok commercial, like, that was an original song. Kanye, Game and Luda, like, rappers are lazy now.
Ryan
I don't know if they're lazy or.
Rory
They just don't make songs good enough for commercials.
Ryan
Well, rappers are not as good as they used to be. That's, that's, that's the whole different conversation we're having. But this is a new episode of Rory and Ma and we are proud to say we are now presented by Boost Mobile. Happy to be a part of the brand, part of the company.
Rory
Have that announcement. We also have new merch available right now. You wearing it? I am if you're doing the the video version.
Peach
Shake them titties in the camera hoe.
Ryan
Yeah, I got some change. Hold on. Do something strange for some change why.
Peach
You always on your titties?
Ryan
Do something strange for some change yeah.
Peach
Throw it at him, throw it at him.
Ryan
Yeah, do some strange.
Rory
I'm like a girl in Turks Yo, Stay on their tippy toes, don't they? I'm like a girl I'm like a girl in Turks. I feel like every chick's calf muscles have to be sore after a vacation.
Ryan
Oh, no, they Are on something else. Are you cool? I'm just getting episodes.
Rory
I was just saying that they stay on their toes.
Unknown
Yeah.
Ryan
That's all.
Rory
Maybe it's a metaphor, I don't know.
Ryan
But what I was trying to say was thank you to Boost Mobile. Happy to be a part of the new Rory and Mall show.
Rory
And we have new merch available right now.
Ryan
New merch available now.
Rory
A lot of good. A lot of good designs. Yes, we did a shoot which was fun.
Ryan
Had a lot of fun, man.
Rory
I did the crate challenge.
Ryan
Yes, we did that.
Rory
Like, wasn't part of the treatment, but there were some crates, so why not crates?
Ryan
We got to challenge them. Yeah.
Rory
Then we did a two person domino's with not enough dominoes.
Ryan
Yeah, we don't have to talk about that. Somebody stole the dominoes, man. We were trying to make.
Rory
Can you find a double six?
Ryan
Yeah, we was just trying to make it work. Bad domino game.
Rory
But, you know, other than that, how's everyone's week been?
Ryan
Everything's good, man. I mean, I've been with you every day, I feel like. Except for one day.
Rory
Yeah, pretty much.
Ryan
Yeah. But no week is good. Weather is kind of shit in New York. But I like the rain. I like rainy weather in New York. We need rain. We need to rinse these sidewalks and, you know, like, clean.
Rory
Just clean the streets with dirty water.
Ryan
Rain is in dirty water.
Peach
Yes, it is, baby.
Rory
Well, it depends where you are.
Ryan
How is rain dirty? Let's talk about it. I love these.
Rory
Okay.
Ryan
How is rain? Dirty water.
Rory
So how rain does. It's the precipitation that comes up from where? The ground. You think ocean and the.
Ryan
Oh, no, no, no, no, not the ground.
Rory
Like from where? Oh, yeah, from the Hudson river and the East River.
Ryan
No, from the ocean.
Rory
Okay.
Ryan
Yeah.
Rory
But then the pollution that's already above gets mixed in with that rain.
Ryan
So.
Rory
So if you're in a polluted area, your rain is dirty. I can promise you that.
Peach
We live in New York, which is very.
Rory
Our rainwater is not clean.
Peach
Yeah, no, it's.
Rory
It's cut with. With filth.
Ryan
Well, yeah. I mean, in the sky and the clouds and in the air. Yes.
Rory
It's gross.
Ryan
Yes. I mean.
Rory
I mean, if you go in like the middle of the country, I'm sure it's amazing. You could drink the rain.
Ryan
Well, I think put it in a.
Rory
Vial and just go like this and let me know. Let me know what?
Ryan
Rain. It's much cleaner. It's much cleaner than the sidewalks in the streets is what I'm saying.
Rory
Yeah, I Guess.
Ryan
Yeah, that definitely gotta rinse these sidewalks. Everybody walk around dogs. There are. I think there are more pets. More dogs in Manhattan than people Coven.
Rory
Everyone bought a dog.
Ryan
Yeah. Everybody started breeding dogs. We don't talk about the girls that breed dogs. That's a hustle for women. When they start.
Peach
You get pregnant by a dog and then.
Ryan
Yeah. When they start making like they girls start breeding Frenchies.
Rory
Yeah.
Ryan
Yeah. We don't talk about that enough. We gotta. We gotta conquer that market.
Rory
I was. I was tight when the vet was like, you have to neuter bays because it's a mixed breed. Like, that's not supposed to exist. Humans created that multipoo.
Ryan
Yeah.
Rory
Like, no, they'll die. Like, you need to scrape out the insides.
Ryan
Like, scrape out.
Rory
This was my hus. This was my golden ticket.
Ryan
Yeah.
Rory
Gonna sell multip. I was trying to get out the game.
Ryan
If pod doesn't work, start mating multi pools and selling adorable.
Rory
Like, I feel like you could flip a couple bases.
Ryan
Selling dogs is crazy, though. Like, mating dogs and like, selling them.
Rory
Base was expensive. Well, no, I didn't rescue bays. I bought her with money. A lot of it.
Ryan
Yeah. Papers, insurance, everything.
Rory
Yeah. It was not adopted, not rescued, nothing. I bought it. It was a transaction at the mall.
Ryan
We don't see stray dogs anymore. Remember? Straight dogs.
Rory
Of course. Girls.
Peach
Oh, sorry. Cut that out. Cut that out.
Ryan
Baby. Let me just let you know.
Rory
That was worse for a doxing or for the amount of stereotypical jokes we could make.
Ryan
You're not al. But I think that was just a little too far.
Peach
A little too far.
Rory
But whatever they do with them, we're.
Peach
Gonna take it out.
Ryan
Yeah. Whatever they do when they put the sesame seeds on them.
Rory
Yeah. Amazing.
Ryan
I'm in.
Rory
So just bleach whatever's there, make it easier for peach. I'm pretty sure they can put context clues together.
Ryan
Ginger. Put ginger and sesame seed. I'm in.
Rory
Yeah, ginger.
Ryan
Yeah, scallions. Some scallions on top of that thing. Yeah. I don't care what it is. I'll eat it.
Rory
Everyone out there, speaking of gingers, I want everyone to know. Oh, hold on. This is reason real quick.
Peach
Oh, and then he just get this.
Rory
You're live on air right now. We just interrupted a very important segment just to say that clock is on for you.
Peach
Say it again.
Unknown
Call me back when you're not on air.
Rory
You already. Already scared of Joey.
Peach
He mad.
Rory
It's already scared of Joey. You're supposed to be his 13th reason.
Ryan
Yeah. Hey, reason. It'll. It don't sound like you in the studio is all I'm saying. You want to face on me.
Rory
Oh.
Ryan
You is up early on the West Coast.
Rory
Yeah. What time is it over there?
Ryan
Yeah, got coffee and studio. I got off the bed for this.
Rory
I got off the bed for this. Okay.
Ryan
Okay. What is that?
Rory
I don't think it was a diss, and we're gonna get to that in the episode, but I don't think it was a diss. But I still think you should do it anyways. Yeah, I don't think it was a diss either, but I am gonna do it anyway. Yeah, see, I like that.
Ryan
I respect that.
Rory
And. And by the way, I don't want you to take no angle the way. The way Kenny did it, making a whole west coast thing. Don't form an alliance with Ray and everyone else. Nah, you on your own, too.
Ryan
No, I'm. I'm me.
Rory
I'm me. You from Chicago in this battle. I don't want to hear one. I don't want to hear you try to recreate GNX. I don't want to hear one 100 bpm beat. I need you to get in there and rap like you from New York.
Peach
Now, why you putting head in it? He ain't even do nothing.
Ryan
Hit me when you off the podcast.
Peach
That mad as he ain't called her. He called to vent.
Ryan
That's what. That's what. That's what. That's what Joey did.
Rory
I mean, I just think it's hilarious.
Ryan
That Joey Badass is shaking the room like this right now. Yeah, that is hilarious to me.
Rory
That is money. This is on my. All right. If it's on my side, it's mine now.
Ryan
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Rory
I guess we can get right into it then. That's a good segue. Yeah, well, reason is in an interesting place because him throwing himself in the battle, people like. That's corny. Didn't say anything, but it's rap. You said my name so I could rap, right?
Ryan
Yeah, but people throw themselves in battles all the time. Ray Vaughan's been doing it. He's. He ready to rap anytime somebody breathe. He got a 16 ready. So, I mean, well, let's get.
Rory
Let's give some backstory, some timeline.
Peach
Yes.
Rory
Put out a freestyle, which I enjoyed over a conductor beat. Forgive me for forgetting the actual name of that record. Shot the video in front of his crib and said, too much west coast dick licking. I didn't think it was a. A shot really at all. I just thought it was a clever play off a jayline yeah, it was just, you know, in the middle of the battle that was going on, and it just made sense.
Ryan
It was just him being observant.
Rory
But I also didn't mind that Ray Von took that as a, hey, I'm from the West Coast. So I could reply, nothing wrong with that. And they threw shots back and forth. Even Daylight, about two weeks ago, put out a record backpack, which is fire. First verse isn't really for me. It's a lot of skateboard. But the second verse, Daylight, went off and kind of predicted all of Joey's bars that ended up in that Red Bull freestyle, which had Big Sean absol. And Joey badass. With that said, Big Sean needs to. He needs to just go through everyone's, like, phones before they enter. Like, yo, what's your intentions with this record? What content are you covering? What type of moment are you trying to have?
Ryan
Because Joey's verse kind of was like. The energy was different. He was going at people so kind of outshined with Big Sean.
Rory
Sean continues to have an incredible verse and then is outshined by whoever goes last and shoots at every rapper that's currently going on. And Sean, you could even see his face. When Joey even brought up control, Sean was like, I knew I should have consulted.
Ryan
Yeah. Because this, you know, Big Sean is in this. This phase of, like, you know, I think he had his ayahuasca. He's very like, oh, for sure.
Rory
Yeah.
Ryan
He's very like, you know, his girl is very Zen and peaceful. So, you know, obviously some of that energy is now, you know, in him. So he's just here to display a skill set and let him make good music and, you know, and lay good bars down. It's not really aggressive. It's not really, like, confrontational. No, but he has to read the room. He has to know that. Okay, but there are guys in this room that they want smoke. Just rap smoke. Nobody's. No. No physical, no real life harm here. Just. Just. He's in a room with guys that want rap smoke. And Big Sean, he's not really there in his life. He doesn't. He's not here to have rap smoke with anybody.
Rory
I mean, when he did his interview, I believe it was with Charlemagne, when he was putting music out. It did get brought up. His past issues with Kendrick and all that getting squashed and, you know, they're not being any issue. Sean did make it clear, though, if anybody doesn't want smoke, that he was here for it. I think even the most Zen ayahuasca People can get in that mode if.
Ryan
Need be, but I think Phil Jackson will slap the shit out.
Rory
I think Sean Facts. Yeah, I think Sean went in there, you know, purely off water, ignored any Red Bull that was even offered. I think he was. Had the highest rate in water, possibly maybe some shroom tea. Was as far as he was taking it, green juice and had, you know, a little back and forth with Soul, which was. Was cute and fun. They both. I thought both had incredible verses.
Ryan
They all did all.
Rory
I love. I love the back and forth about Janae and Soul and their relationship. And then even Soul's girl saying that Sean was going to smoke him before. It was just a lovely double date.
Ryan
It felt great.
Rory
It was like a couple's group chat almost.
Ryan
Until Unique got the mic. That wasn't Joey Badass. That was Unique. Then Unique decided to rap. Once I saw the pele, I'm like, all right, I already know what type of time Joey on. He had the Pele on. He might have had a chew stick on his head. You know, when them niggas got the chew sticks, you can't argue with a nigga that got a chew stick.
Rory
I'm sure when he was playing Inspector Deck, he had a chest stick.
Ryan
100.
Rory
100 was channeling some deck throughout that.
Ryan
100%, if you played Deck and Unique.
Rory
Yeah. You know what time it is when you go to the Red Bull freestyle.
Ryan
Absolutely. So Joey decided when it was his goal that he was going to use that moment to double triple down on this fact that, yeah, I want smoke with whoever wants smoke. Like, I'm here for it. Let's rap if y' all want to rap. And I'll be honest, that is some of the best rapping I think I've heard Joey do.
Rory
Yeah. Because I mean, Joey, even though, I mean, I even love his Sway Five Finger Death freestyles, you know, he always does good freestyles. But Joey makes records.
Ryan
Yeah.
Rory
That's always even as a great rapper, he's always focused on making good records. I like the bag that he's in right now of just straight rapping.
Ryan
Yeah.
Rory
Because I think people get Joey Badass up because he only focuses on making a song better rather than barring you the down.
Ryan
Yeah.
Rory
Now, I like the daylight bars a lot.
Ryan
Daylight can rap.
Rory
As a battle casual battle rap fan, I've heard we've heard a lot of those light type of schemes before. I liked hearing it from Joey Badass in that setting and not someone on a URL or dot stage in that.
Ryan
In that regard, we've heard light schemes. We've heard people.
Rory
I even love that when I fly, I'll even pack light. Like I liked a lot of shit that he was saying.
Ryan
He got. He got. Joey got his. He was very clever, very unique, but very unique.
Rory
This is what scares me as I'm champion. Joey Badass the same way. The west coast just all latched on and made it a thing. I'm making it an east coast thing. Whatever Joey Badass does, I'm riding with him. Fuck, everybody else is. New York City, no matter what.
Ryan
Oh, that's a fact.
Rory
But with that said, did you listen to Backpack by Daylight two weeks ago?
Ryan
Did I?
Rory
Yes.
Ryan
No.
Rory
He legitimately predicted the entire verse that Joey put down as far as four bars, blank, blank, blank. Add in the word daylight. He did the fucking star moon, intergalactic. I don't need those light gears to buzz. He even predicted the Ray Vaughan sun ray line. In that whole shit, you're just dealing with somebody that has legitimately made a career out of being this diabolical and predicting what people's bars are going to be. He said everything Joey said two weeks ago about what was going to be said about him.
Ryan
But we know Daylight the way he thinks. Have you ever seen daylight battle? And the schemes that he comes up with and the way that he plays off of metaphors and wor like he's very in tune on a different level. You know, he just. And then it's. It's that. It's the thing that I think rappers have where you can kind of dictate and, you know, hearing somebody's flows over the years and how they play with their words, their entendres and things like that. You can kind of, as another writer and mc, you can kind of get into the. The way they think.
Rory
Oh, remember, remember the era when like Sirius Jones and I feel like Solomon, a lot of them would try to finish the person they were battling's bars just to show like, dog, this was the most predictable scheme ever. I missed that era. That almost started a lot of fights.
Ryan
Oh, yeah, yeah. You can't finish somebody bar before them.
Rory
Sirius Jones did that in the entire Mooc battle when it was him and one other person and Mook had all of Harlem. I was like, all right, serious, good luck getting out of there tied on his head.
Ryan
Oh, no. Then that was it. Nothing. After that, everything was different for serious.
Rory
And again, I mean, it's not crazy to predict a lot of the daylight light type of schemes, especially when Joey's not a battle Rapper. But I thought it was a great verse, great temperature check. Also a great way to be like. All right, I am replying. If you guys want to take this west coast dick looking bar too far, fine. All right, we're in the ring now, bucket Ray Vaughan replies. Which we, of course, we saw coming. And can we be unbiased today? No. Okay. I liked Rayvon's reply. I knew obviously was going to come right away. Not because he has nothing going on, but this is a big moment for him. Joey Badass is an established rapper. Rayvon just put out a project. This would be a great time. And he's been fishing for beef with. Been fishing for beef with you for no reason. Like, he's legitimately finding anyone to have an issue with to get some attention and promo, which I don't knock. I get it.
Ryan
I do. I don't. I think that's a little nasty, but I'm not mad at it.
Rory
If you do in a creative way, I'm cool with it with you in the podcast.
Ryan
Shit.
Rory
I don't know. Whatever. I guess it's part of social media now. I did like his reply. I thought he had some bars in it. I didn't like. And the west coast is going to be mad at my east coast view of this. I didn't like that he was just trying to recreate a GNX song. But I did like the record and I thought he had some bars. We know he can rap.
Ryan
We know Rayvon could rap. I just think that. I don't. I don't know if Rayvon is as good as he thinks he is yet.
Rory
All right, break that down for me.
Ryan
No, because, you know how. Because this is a. You know, this is a. It's a good moment for Rayvon. He's trying to put out a project, trying to keep his name in the algorithms. You know, you. You insert yourself in things. Or if you feel like somebody said your name or they didn't. If you want to rap, you can rap. It's studios everywhere. Mics turn it on. I'm never mad when rappers want to rap. I like that. But I think that Ray Vaughn may be getting just a little out of his lane when it comes to rapping with Joey Badass or, you know.
Rory
Well, I mean, Ray's. He's known more for his freestyles, just based off.
Ryan
Again, he has one of my favorite freestyles on LA Leakers.
Rory
Leakers. He went nuts, especially on the beans. Be those have overshadowed his music. I. I don't mind the mixtape. You just put Out. There's definitely some joints on there, but everything is going to be overshadowed. We talked about this with Simba too. Simba, who makes great music, complains too. He's like, dog, people just want to hear my fucking freestyles. Like, it's starting to get annoying. So Ray's not the only one. That's why I think this is more his lane than it is Joey's. We've never really seen Joey outside of the Troy Ave thing, which, I mean, I think he beat Troy Ave just based off the sway freestyle alone. We've never seen him really in a real back and forth Ray Vaughan just be rapping his ass off all the time.
Ryan
Yeah, no 100%. But that's where I think he may be out of. Because, you know, because Joey doesn't get into this type of shit often. That don't mean that he can't get into this type of shit. Facts. And I think that's what people are learning now. Because he didn't put out a response to Rayvon, you know what I mean? So we heard that again. Some of the best rapping I think Joey is doing is right now.
Rory
And I mean, you know, there was great bars in this. What was it? Hoe era, I believe, based off a playoff pro era. He had a lot of great bars in there. Of course, the N was the one that Twitter attached themselves to because they care really less about bars and more about salacious. But I. I like this end. I'm Snoop. Snoop Dogg kicking over his little fort. Which I was offended by that.
Ryan
Snoop Dogg kicking over his little fort.
Rory
Remember when Snoop Dogg kicked over the tower in Queens?
Ryan
Yeah.
Rory
Now. Now he's calling us a little fort.
Ryan
No, that's not. That's not what that was. That was the playoff. Baby Boy.
Peach
Yeah.
Rory
Oh, okay.
Ryan
Snoop was in Baby Boy. And then.
Rory
Was it not an entendre when Snoop Dogg was knocking over the.
Ryan
It could have been. He kicked over the buildings.
Rory
I forgot Baby Boy.
Ryan
A little kid built the fort in the.
Rory
You carrying no torch. You let Ice Spice turn into the King of New York. It's a great bar.
Ryan
No, listen, he can rap.
Rory
Smoke that. And he made a point. We had this entire conversation when Joey did that freestyle of the King of New York. And where Joey's disappearance for a little bit during the acting thing is kind of like left us in a really weird place, New York wise. I mean, yes, we have great singles, but there hasn't been a real established rapper that we felt has been carrying any real torch. That's why we Love that Joey Badass was back. So Ray Von right there, like one up based off just the Red Bull freestyle. I thought Rayvon went off and it's a catchy song. I still am in my GNX shit. So it was an easy listen because I've been listening to GNX a lot. But I don't know, is this what the west coast is going to be for the next year? As far as what I know, GNX is based off a bay and LA sound already. I'm not stupid. Everyone calm down. But this was like directly, directly gnx, not just West Coast. Does that make sense?
Ryan
Well, I mean, Kendrick is obviously, he's the guy on the west coast now. And I think anybody coming up, especially if you're affiliated with tde, I think that it's, you know, it's some of that is going to kind of linger around and you're going to kind of pick up some of that energy and it's going to start to sound familiar, feel familiar. Even Rayvon in the video, the way he's moving and dancing, felt a little Kendrick is. But I'm not mad at it. I mean, he's the guy right now.
Rory
No, no, for sure. And it just, I mean, I guess down to the hook. The hook was very gnx. And even the ad libs, like, again, despite all of our innocent back and forth, I follow Rayon. I think he's talented. He's never had ad libs. Like what? Like dog, that's a direct gnx. You just throwing in GNX ad libs in the ch.
Ryan
It's not genius, Kendrick.
Rory
Yeah, but I'm saying that specific type.
Ryan
Yeah, I mean, but that's. That's what's supposed to happen.
Rory
Oh, what, like. Oh, you don't even talk that way.
Ryan
You know, don't say that.
Peach
Don't I know how he talk like.
Rory
Because I listen to Rayon for five.
Ryan
Years on the LA Legal, I can promise you he sounded nothing like that. Not even close.
Rory
Shut up.
Ryan
Yeah, stop talking.
Rory
I'm tripping and I'm loving it.
Peach
Please stop.
Rory
Anyways, I'm joking around, Rayvon. I thought Hoera was in amazing response to the Red Bull, but as we were walking into the studio today, Joey Badass released the finals, I believe it was.
Ryan
And cooked boots. And boots are cooked. Damaris, can you open that oven and grab them boots out of there?
Peach
Yeah, I got you.
Ryan
Please do that.
Rory
Here's the thing. Rayvon made a good song with a lot of good retorts, a good battle record and a good song. Joey Just got right to it and did a 94 bar dog scheme from Top Dog Entertainment that I'm still decoding to this moment. I did not know Joey could rap that well. And this is not my New York bias. He just got straight to the shits and said, no, I'm not doing this. This fun record that y' all are doing with. With your. Your beef. No, I'm going right on a beat that I will put my vocals on top of. Who gives a about the beat? I'm gonna tear your ass up. And he did.
Ryan
Listen, I keep telling y' all, when we were in Atlanta at JD Studio, the way Joey was looking at Bow Wow's plaque on that wall, he was reading that shit like we were at the MLK exhibit. Please. And I didn't. I couldn't make the. I'm like. And he was like, yo, you don't understand. Like, he's the reason I started rapping. And I'm like, I've never heard. Maybe I'm just getting old. And I've never heard anybody say Bow Wow is the reason I started rapping. That is nothing about Joey Badass says Bow Wow is the reason this guy started rapping.
Rory
But, I mean, like, I was telling me and Joey are around the same age. I had Beware of the Dog. I knew every lyric to it because I was 11.
Ryan
Listen, bow wow fucking megastar. He was a phenom. He was one of the few rappers that could say, when I went outside, I caused pandemonium. Like, they chased me in the malls. You rap niggas don't get. If you getting chased because a nigga trying to kill you. YN is trying to spin the block on one of you niggas.
Rory
And don't get that video of him not being chased where he said he was being chased.
Ryan
No, that's. He actually used to be chased. Yeah, that's. That's. That's the Internet just fucking with Bow.
Rory
That's Bow.
Ryan
Yeah. He's really been. Bow wow has been chased through malls before. It's happened.
Rory
Sure.
Ryan
That's not the guy that I would think influenced the gentleman we just heard on this freestyle to start rapping.
Rory
He said, you don't need an optician to see Ray Bans. That's not a hard part of you.
Ryan
When Raising Canaan started when that Unique on they ass. Yo, Unique not playing with y' all.
Rory
They again.
Ryan
And y' all don't. Y' all don't know that Joey done had these bars. He done had this in the crock Pot. He couldn't wait to release this. They're saying he ain't just write this.
Rory
I mean, he came back in less than 24 hours.
Ryan
Cause he had that shit recorded already. This shit been done, man. Joey had all of this shit cooking when he released the first one. And he said too much west coast dick. He got verses for all you west coast coast. If y' all don't know that already. He's here to rap. Joey want to rap. And I'm not mad at that. I love that he's here to rap.
Rory
Just the first, like 24 of the amount of schemes he did with With a Dog is insane. I really did not know Joey was this good at rapping. I'll be honest with you. I really didn't.
Ryan
I'm trying to tell you knew he.
Rory
Was good, but I didn't know he was this.
Ryan
I had. I was not. I. I had. I did not expect Joey Badass to perform the way he's performing right now. I'm gonna be honest. I always knew he could rap and he had a lot of style, you know? But Joey was. I always looked at him as a gu. More of a slick talker. Talker.
Rory
Yeah.
Ryan
You know, he was one of those dudes like, okay, getting this off. But no, he's. He's rapping. He's rapping on this.
Rory
Yeah. No, he. I mean, even just out the gate, I'm kind of top dog as you. You more of a shih tzu.
Ryan
Listen, let's get into it.
Rory
You was cloned in the lab. Just what I was talking about with Bay. She not supposed to exist.
Ryan
No.
Rory
Yeah, you artificial. You known for your label, not because your art's official. I ain't going to talk about how you broke. You are to fix. You fixed. Listen, man. And then he just does a 34 here of just schemes after that. I'm saying right now, we're just going off the whole era versus this Joey badass is up one nothing.
Ryan
Oh, 100%. 100%.
Rory
Just based off facts that he said in there and actual bars. Now, if I were to get in the car, I'd probably put on the Rayvon record first. It's a better song. But if we're just doing the battle shit and Rayvon for what we know is just about the raps. You are down one nothing right now.
Peach
Oof. On the loto. I really think you niggas is homo the way you let dot dick sit in your mouth. This that same dick licking I was talking about you n would do Anything for clout. Crash out over niggas who won't even let you in they house.
Rory
And he said, I bet you don't. Bet you don't even have his number.
Ryan
He don't. Oh, I like this type of though, me. Oh, man, I love this type of. This is hip hop. This is the type of I like. And again only just keep it wax, keep it rhymes, I love. But this is.
Rory
I mean, Joey said that in the Red Bull freestyle.
Ryan
Yeah, just keep it raps, man. As long as we keep it raps and everybody get their off, you know, I know Ray Vaughn and talking slick about me. Whatever, man. I don't. I don't take none of that.
Peach
They called him Gayvon.
Ryan
Why? He's gay. Revon's gay.
Peach
No, but he. That's what. That's.
Rory
That's what he was saying in the.
Peach
Gayvon is hilarious.
Ryan
Oh, well, I mean, you know, it is what it is, but good. Good to see dudes rapping. Shout out to Big Sean because he got. I mean, he was rapping his ass off and all of that got outshined by per usual, Joey's. Joey Badass's verse.
Rory
But Absol too.
Ryan
Shout out to Soul.
Rory
I thought that was cool that Joey did that with Absol there and talked about everyone in TDE and yeah, that felt healthy. The way I thought that Kendrick and Drake shit was going to start. I was like, oh, this will be great. Everyone will just be friends and we'll just battle. Yeah, that I think, actually, I hope that happens on this one.
Ryan
Yeah.
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Ryan
I mean listen man and I know you know dude been talking a little slick but I don't. I do Think Rayvon could rap, but I don't want to see him turn into, you know, too much of a Kendrick type of. Because I don't think he sounds. He's starting. It's starting to sound and feel too much. Well, like Kendrick.
Rory
I think the Ray and Joey Badass thing again, I don't know how much further Joey Badass is gonna go. Like, of course Ray Vaughan is going to reply as he should. Nobody would knock that is he. I don't know. Like, Joey, keep this up. And it's not a slight to Ray Vaughan by any means. Like, I even loved his bars of saying I played bald. I could handle. Rappers that are on the screen, like, went crazy. But is that something, Joey? Because at the end of this final, he was really saying, dog, I'm done with you. Give me Daylight. Give me somebody that is like a worthy opponent of me.
Ryan
Yeah.
Rory
So I don't even know if Joey replies after the Rayvon one, even if it is really good where people like you have to reply. I think he's saying, here, Dog gave you this attention. Somebody send Daylight, please. That's who I really want. I gave one one Ray bar in that red bullshit.
Ryan
Yeah.
Rory
Me even doing this like I cooked you. It's over. Please give me Daylight. Now that sounds kind of familiar. Now that is what. Since I'm riding on Joey Badass side, that's what I'm nervous about is that.
Ryan
He doesn't want to ride the confidence.
Rory
In which Joey is saying, daylight, please come outside and battle me.
Ryan
Listen, Joey. Joey might have a scheme that we don't know about. He might have some info that we don't know about. Listen, man, if you know, you gotta just let. Okay. He talking greasy. He talking like he confident. He want that smoke. Let's see it now. Because we know Light and we know how his brain is wired. It's not gonna be just a walking. You know, that's. Daylight is not somebody. He's not a rapper or MC to take light. And no pun, he's not somebody to play with. Daylight thinks on a whole different scale. His. His mind goes to a whole different place. And if you're not willing to meet him there and go there in that world with him, whatever you. Whatever world you choose to stay in, you better do that extremely well.
Rory
So here's the thing where we were just saying, hey, let's keep it on wax. It's a friendly phase. In the midst of all this last night, Daylight posted. Capital steez.
Ryan
Yeah.
Rory
With no context.
Ryan
Right.
Rory
For those that don't know, capital Steez, unfortunately from pro era, took his own life years ago, rest in peace, condolences to his family. But we're dealing with Daylight. That's what I'm saying. Daylight comes from a place where there's no rules whatsoever. So when everyone was out, like, yo, Daylight, that's distasteful. And what are you doing? Like, come on, it's not even like that, bro. I get what people were saying under that post, but I know Daylight and I know where Daylight, the school, he comes from. You lead with that.
Ryan
Yeah, yeah.
Rory
Like, you want to go through Daylight battles. He's actually one of the more respectable battle rappers if we're getting into it. He doesn't even go that crazy outside. Like, outside of shitting on stage. I mean, like, his lyrics, like, he's not an arsenal. Like, who's gonna say the most disrespectful thing about your family out the fucking gate.
Ryan
Yeah, it's a little more clever.
Rory
But he still comes from that school where, like, you think I'm about to change my battle rules for y' all.
Ryan
Yeah, yeah.
Rory
I'm starting with capital Cs. I don't know if Joey's ready for that world again.
Ryan
If you're not ready to go into that world, which is, you know, Joey.
Rory
Is a famous fiance. Like, there's a lot of public targets is all I'm saying. And Daylight, by nature, is not going to stop because this is supposed to be friendly and on wax. Like, anything that's friendly in URL is going to go over the line that you guys have established within this new hip hop battleship.
Ryan
Yeah. Like, Daylight is not. He. He'll. He'll do and say pretty much anything.
Rory
Yeah.
Ryan
And when you're battling somebody like that or getting into it with somebody like that, you have to understand, like, nothing is off the table. This is a guy that shit on stage before. This is a guy that took a picture. He tucked his penis and took a picture standing up in the mirror.
Rory
He did seven Vlad interviews in whiteface.
Ryan
Yeah, he don't. This is somebody who just doesn't. You know, they don't. He doesn't. Daylight doesn't give a fuck, so.
Rory
And one of the greatest battle rappers we've ever seen, ever. And on top of that, which makes me scared for Joey, outside of maybe surf, I think he's the best battle rapper music wise, outside of surf. Cassidy doesn't count. Talk about people that we first knew.
Ryan
Okay.
Rory
For that. That make music. Surf and Daylight, to me, make the best music. Like Even that backpack record from two weeks ago. I love, like, beat how Daylight picks beats, makes record records. He's great. That's why I'm also scared for Joey, too. If it was somebody else and like.
Ryan
Wait, you scared for Joey?
Rory
It's Daylight, dog.
Ryan
Nah, man.
Rory
It's the best, in my opinion, top three battle rapper that's ever existed on earth. And he knows how to make records and he knows how to actually rap on a beat. Pick a beat. Now, no disrespect to all the other battle.
Peach
I was just about to interrupt him and say that.
Rory
Personal, personal, personal.
Peach
Who's your other top two If.
Rory
If he's in your top three, Probably Mook. Who would be my three.
Ryan
If Light is top three? So. Moog. Light and who? Light and Lux.
Rory
Yeah.
Ryan
I'm not mad at that.
Rory
Which I know casual battle rap fan here, guys. Sorry. No, no, I'm not gonna. Everyone was gonna.
Ryan
No, but those are those.
Rory
Are those admitting I'm casual?
Ryan
No, but those are three. Those are three of the top guys, for sure. Yeah, without a doubt. But I just never heard anybody say they had Light in their top three, though. Maybe top five.
Rory
Daylight different, bro.
Ryan
No, he. No, listen, I know that. I'm very aware of the way he writes and his schemes and the way he thinks. Like, it's like, that was clack. I've heard Daylight say a lot of shit where I was like, that was very clever. And I know other rappers that hear certain bars from Daylight say the same shit about him. Like, that was very clever the way he put that together. But I mean, again, Joey Badass, this is some of the best rapping he's doing.
Rory
I'm just saying throughout, like a whole career, because there's been times where, like, I felt Rex was the best at one point. Or, I mean, shit, even Kayshawn was going nuts at one point. Arsenal. There's been times where I've thought other people were the best, but if I look in totality for how long I've been watching battle rap, those three to me have stood the same time with Battles. Even though Mook, like, kind of picked and choosed and took some time off, he's still, to me, one of the greatest.
Ryan
Well, he afforded himself that luxury. Yeah, he been putting in before you niggas knew what a DVD was. Mook was on the corner battling.
Rory
So, yeah, that's why I'm nervous for Joey. Not to say that he can't. But some of the greatest battle rappers ever would be like, damn, all right, I'm A little nervous about Daylight.
Ryan
It's gonna be fun, man. I think Joey is very prepared. I think he's. He's been preparing for this. I think all of these bars that we're hearing is shit that he had already. These are not. Is not new. I just think now he's deciding to empty the clip and, you know, entertain this thing. And I think it's going to be fun to watch and see play out. I think that Daylight is going to surprise a lot of people, but I also feel like Joey Badass is going to surprise people.
Rory
Yeah. And I mean how he even flipped when Troy. I was talking about capital Steez. How Joey Badass flipped. That I thought was incredible on his way freestyle. So. No, I know he's capable. We're just. You're dealing with like a different. A psychopath as a compliment.
Ryan
Yeah, 100. 100. I get it.
Rory
And just like the energy around him, like what if. What if disasters in the studio with him that day. I'm just saying.
Ryan
Yeah, no, I get it, I get it.
Rory
But I mean, I like it. It's keeping the energy going.
Ryan
Yeah, man.
Rory
Keep the raps going to everybody that's been involved in this entire thing. I. As a rap fan, this has been incredible. I hope reason just enters the ring for the of it.
Ryan
Oh, no. Well, we. He said he is so he needed this.
Peach
Everybody don't stand up for like tde. So people no dis. Dis everybody for both sides.
Ryan
Yeah. Reason go out there and burn that whole shit down, man.
Rory
Yo, what's funny is I'm trying to think. Two weeks ago I could find a text before any of this happened. I told him to just crash out and diss everyone.
Ryan
Like everybody in rap or just.
Rory
And. And I was saying in media too, instead of how to rob called how to blog and just dissed everybody. I said dis me and maul like.
Ryan
Just wait, hold on.
Rory
Crash out.
Ryan
Diss me, leave me the alone.
Rory
I just know that reason has so much that he's. Paul is just sitting on and has just been waiting for somebody to say his name.
Ryan
Oh, 100%. I think reason has a lot of pent up aggress feelings and the emotions towards TDE that he's trying to. He's tried to be very professional and very, you know, classy about. But he got some. He got some venom for TDE for sure.
Peach
I don't know.
Rory
Well, I don't even know if it's TDE direct just anybody in general. Even in this. No, no, no, no.
Ryan
But like People that have worked over there, people he's definitely got look kind of nuts.
Rory
If Joey Badass said his name and then he just dissed TDE instead he got.
Peach
But that's why he gotta. He gotta diss everybody. But I don't know if he wants.
Ryan
Yeah, you gotta paul a that thing.
Peach
I don't know if you want that. Jo Badass smoke reason. I don't know.
Rory
I don't think Joey would reply. I think after the Ray Von thing, I don't think Joey's going to give somebody that he deems lower than him.
Peach
Yeah.
Rory
Any more attention. There's no disrespect to reason, but not.
Ryan
Every going in bought Joey up.
Rory
But then at the end, Joey feel like he called him, like, stung him like everybody else is his name.
Ryan
No, no, not everybody. But rappers know when another rapper, even though he may be deemed not as on your level, but if he say some shit and get some shit off and it was like, that was hard, but he could get a bar too.
Rory
Did. Did Joey mention that tattoo that Rayon just got or. See, he's saving that for round two.
Ryan
Saving that for round two is hilarious.
Rory
Yeah, that's it.
Ryan
We'll get to that. We'll get to that.
Rory
I need some time with that.
Ryan
Yeah, yeah, we'll get to that. I got to break that tattoo down, but.
Rory
All right. So Daylight posted that yesterday. We're recording this on a Thursday the 15th. I think we get something from Daylight by tonight.
Ryan
Nah, he's not.
Rory
I think he was already prepared by posting capital Cs yesterday. And the fact that Joey put something out today, I think Daylight's gonna try to step on that as quick as possible.
Ryan
Nah, Daylight's still sitting on top of the watchtowers Indian style with a cape on. Yeah, he gaining. He's pulling all the energy from the.
Rory
From the towers, from the lightning clouds and everything.
Ryan
Daylight, he ain't finished loading yet. Like, he hasn't finished loading yet. Yeah, Daylight ain't finished loading. Like y' all don't know when life.
Rory
Put in his gta Health cheat codes.
Ryan
Man, they light need about another four days to finish loading and then we gonna get something.
Rory
I think he about to put out a mixtape.
Peach
A mixtape is crazy.
Rory
He works quick, you know?
Ryan
Nah, he. I think that Daylight has been preparing for shit like this, but I don't think we get a response today or tonight. I think it's gonna take probably through the weekend and then we'll hear something.
Rory
Do we think Soul is a double agent? I think if Daylight does put out multiple. This is so ends up on one of them.
Ryan
So ends up on a Daylight this. Like Daylight this and Soul.
Rory
No, no. On first Joey Badass possible disc. If. If Daylight just puts out a direct diss and then puts out a song following it, I think it'll be featuring absol. I think there'll be shots from Daylight to Joey Badass and then Soul will just get on the swing.
Ryan
Wait, like they're gonna jump him.
Rory
Yeah, yeah.
Ryan
Nah, that's corny, man. You can't do that. You can't do that. Not in battle. You can't jump a in battle rap.
Rory
I mean, that's what Rayvon was bringing up in the. Don't call it a that 20v1. But at the same time, I mean, Joey Badass said something about the West Coast. The west coast all can't reply.
Ryan
No, the west coast can reply, but not on the same record. This is a We are the world. You can't do that.
Rory
We are the coat.
Peach
We are the West.
Ryan
You can't do a We are the.
Rory
West by DJ Head.
Ryan
I knew can't do we are the west, man. Nah, nah, nah, nah. You gotta have a one on one phase. The West. Yeah. Nah, man. One on one phase. You can't jump nobody, man. N don't.
Rory
No, but Soul might just hop on it, like, not even dissing.
Ryan
But Sola pull out his own. He'll put out his own freestyle before he do that.
Peach
So if they were to jump him, who could? Who else from New York is gonna rock with Joey?
Rory
I mean, first of all, Ice Spy's name was said. I just want to make that clear. No one's bringing that part up. And I don't understand. Cuz she's an mc. Remember when they put her face and Nas's together?
Ryan
Who did that?
Rory
Twitter who did that? And they put her with Tupac too. I'm so glad they just put.
Ryan
I'm so glad I missed that. I'll be happy to miss certain on the Internet. I'm glad I missed that. Yo. I mean. Yeah, you bring up a good point though. Like Joey if. If they turn into another West coast versus I don't know who Joey going. Who?
Rory
I think 12. We could wrap.
Ryan
Yeah. Nah.
Rory
NASCAR rap.
Peach
Yo, you cool?
Rory
Are y' all cool?
Ryan
Yeah. I just think that Joey and you need more pro.
Rory
A lot of kids in pro era can rap.
Ryan
No, I'm not saying that, but I just think it needs.
Rory
There's our savior right there.
Ryan
Come on.
Rory
I can't even. That's One. Is that one photo of Ice Spice or one photo of Tupac? I can't tell.
Peach
Yo, please.
Ryan
Yeah, that is.
Rory
Ah. It's the bandana that threw it off.
Ryan
Yeah, the chain. It was the chain and the nose ring. Okay, got it.
Rory
But either way, you think she gotta get in the ring?
Ryan
No, man.
Rory
Why?
Ryan
Come on, man. No Ice Spicy. She's somewhere doing.
Rory
Ray, you dookie. She gonna do something like that.
Ryan
What if I start. So you know how I used to play? She started exposing them DMS and try to holla at her. Oh, you know how. You know how y' all like to play, Damaris? Y' all play dirty. Women play dirty. Y' all start throwing.
Peach
You can't make a little joke with a woman because a woman gonna, like, be like, I bet y' all dig up your dead grandma. Like, you take it too far.
Ryan
That just happened to me on the timeline. A girl was like. A girl said something to me about a tweet I posted. She responded, a girl that I know, like, we cool. And I responded, but I responded jokingly. But I think that she really has, like, some type of spice for me. Like, in real life. Like, she feels some type of way about things I said. But you know me, I be. I just talk shit and get off the Internet. I don't care. So my response, I think she took literally, and her response was, oh, but, nigga, you be in my DMs.
Rory
She wins, though.
Ryan
Yeah, but hold on. She don't really win because that's the version of.
Rory
That's our version of But I fuck, though.
Ryan
Yeah, but y' all gotta stop doing that, because if you post something. If you post a picture on your story, Damaris and I send the money bag, that's not me in your dm. Now, if I'm in your dm, like, yo, what's up? When I'm gonna see you? That's me in your dm. Them. But, like, me posting a money bag to a picture, you posting your store.
Peach
You're testing the waters.
Ryan
You're. You're in real life. I'm not testing the water. Like, we've hung out plenty of time. Like, I know this girl.
Rory
Feeling hard. Part six is like, you're explaining too much. She made a statement. Technically, she was. You were in her DMs.
Ryan
That's not in.
Rory
You are not hitting girls got to.
Ryan
Stop saying that, yo. You being my dm. Stop saying that. Because I could say the same thing.
Rory
You used to talk to me. No, I didn't.
Ryan
I would never say that.
Rory
No, I would say when girls say that.
Ryan
Yeah, but that. You can't get that off on me. Like, what you mean? I mean, I mean, your damn thing. And I wanted to say something, but she blocked me, so I couldn't even respond.
Peach
Damn, I'm over here. I'm over here looking like, damn, like, where's she at? But I can't.
Ryan
It was something. It was something I reposted about some that Trump is doing with the tariffs and, like. And I was like, yeah, Big dog holding it down.
Rory
That got to you? Was in my DMs, though.
Ryan
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like, I think. I think that my response, like, she really felt a way about.
Peach
You wanted this liberal ass. That's what it was. That's. I think that's what she was saying.
Rory
She put a tariff on.
Ryan
Putting tariff on the. Is crazy. Not a bad idea.
Rory
Is plummeting right now.
Ryan
Yeah. It's just. Yeah.
Rory
It's at its lowest value.
Ryan
Yeah. Yeah. Especially if you go to doctor. Oh, they doing anything for $50, doctor. But, yeah, I don't know. She blocked me. And, you know, it is what it is. But.
Rory
But, yeah, women are. Are diabolical with. With replies. And I guess we'll get into the Tory Lanez thing later. I just want to bring this up. That Dream Doll diss to Tory Lanez, I don't think we talk about enough as far as some of the greatest diss records of the current generation.
Peach
I forgot that went.
Rory
No, you definitely did, because we on the old pod, like, listened through the entire thing. She smoked him. I think even Tori came, like. Went on Twitter, was like, yeah, you won.
Peach
Isn't that when she said she had. He had Beijing all on her legs. I remember that.
Ryan
No, she went off.
Rory
Dream Doll went crazy.
Ryan
She said he had Beijing on her legs.
Rory
Yeah, in between her thighs.
Peach
In between her thighs.
Rory
Yeah. That's what I'm saying. You can't beat a woman. If a woman could rap or has someone next to her that could rap, you're not gonna win. Especially if you used to deal with her.
Ryan
Yeah, women, y' all don't play. Yeah, y' all don't play fair. Y' all say shit. That's why you can't tell a woman when you depressed and when you going through shit.
Rory
Nah, never.
Ryan
Cause that's her load. She loading up the clip. Soon as you tell her my father used to molest me, she like, yeah, I can't wait for the day this nigga cheat on me. That's what you gonna shoot? Like, you gonna shoot that back?
Peach
She said he tried to. I remember, yo. I really remember this. She said he tried to suck my feet through the socks first night.
Rory
How do you even. How do you even reply to that?
Ryan
And how horny you gotta be to try to suck feet through socks? How horny are you out here?
Rory
Yeah, that is kind of wild.
Peach
Yeah.
Ryan
Sucking feet through socks.
Peach
It's been done.
Ryan
Listen, it's been done, Baby D. It's been done.
Rory
Hey, y' all, like, you just your hands on. Like, is it the sock that got.
Ryan
The different toes on it? Like, where you can put the toes in the different footies?
Peach
Like, straight sock.
Ryan
It's straight. Like. Like Fruit of the Loom Hanes.
Peach
This sucked my feet through my socks on a boulevard one time while he was driving. Fat. That's why you gotta date fat.
Rory
How long had you.
Ryan
No, that needs to be locked up. You gotta lock that away. You horny like that? That's Satan.
Rory
We're currently going through a trial now.
Ryan
Yeah, like, dumb need to be locked away. Horny scare me. Cause y' all. Them will do anything. Like, a horny will do anything thing.
Rory
I agree. But it's like, you know, the impulse in their brain. How are you? There needs to be medication. Like, yeah, like, what's wrong with this?
Ryan
You extra horny.
Rory
I think there's, like, a bad big pharma play going on in the country, but they need Xanax. Like, somebody curb that impulse that you have over there with your horniness.
Ryan
I think we should be able to, like, tase horny. Like, whenever I get too horny, just tase one of them niggas like, yo, calm your ass. Yeah, like sucking feet through socks while you driving.
Rory
Or even like, the little spray bottle, but, like, just put vinegar in it. Just. Just get him, like, just a little notice.
Ryan
And Baby D, you ain't no better. Cause you let him show.
Peach
Did.
Rory
Wait. But then you. Did the sock come off? You just put a wet ass sock back in your boot?
Peach
No, I eventually took the sock off.
Ryan
No, he sucked the sock off.
Rory
It's in his stomach now. He thought that he vacuumed it out.
Peach
He's a nice man that needs to.
Ryan
Be locked away in the penitentiary.
Rory
But if you read a crazy story about him, you'd be like, all right, that probably checks out.
Peach
Nah, he just, you know, he know what he like. He like, feet ain't nothing wrong with, like.
Ryan
There's nothing wrong with, like, your feet. I don't even want that to seem like that's what we're saying. I'm saying if I'm driving, I should not have a woman's foot in my mouth with her sock on while I'm driving.
Peach
Okay. Once the sock was off. Does that make it better?
Ryan
No. I should not have a woman's foot in my mouth while I'm driving.
Rory
It's illegal to not drive at 10 and 2.
Ryan
Yeah.
Rory
Like, now I'm putting a hanging sock in my mouth. If you.
Ryan
I'm texting it and the cops see it. He pulling me over. Imagine I got a ha. Sock in my mouth, and I'm. I'm driving, like, the 60 miles per hour.
Rory
How. How that start.
Peach
He pulled my. He grabbed me by my thigh and pulled my leg up.
Ryan
He grabbed me by my thigh.
Peach
Yeah.
Ryan
Insurance going up.
Rory
Have you ever gotten roadhead before? That better be illegal.
Ryan
Roadhead.
Peach
Oh, yeah, it's definitely illegal.
Ryan
Yeah, I got roadhead before. I'm.
Rory
I'm against it now. You almost crashed multiple times.
Peach
Some gas. It was some gas.
Rory
I got rohead in the Lincoln Tunnel once.
Ryan
Nah, that's. He a rookie. He a rookie. All you gotta do if you getting ro. And it's getting crazy, like, she going crazy. Just hit that hazard and slow down, man. Hit that hazard button and slow down. Hit that hazard. Rory still.
Rory
What am I supposed to do in a tunnel around trucks?
Ryan
Yeah, Rory's still trying to do 65. Nah, hit the hazard. Bring it down to 40 and just chill. Stay in this one lane. We. Everybody go around me, nigga. Cause I'm getting blown. You niggas gotta go around. You got to do this. Go around. Cause I'm not stopping. She going crazy. My ass is wet. What?
Rory
Yeah, Hit the ball. Sets up the little reflective triangles on the side of the road. Puts road flares.
Ryan
All of that.
Rory
Flares.
Ryan
We need all of that.
Rory
AAA just holding the flare out the window.
Ryan
Call aaa. Call aaa. Have them put us on the flatbed. You know how you can stay on the flat? We in the car on the flatbed, and she still finishing. Yeah, we not stopping no roadhead. No, no, no. Cause stopping roadhead is nothing like. Like, how do we start it again? Like, once we get to where we going, she's like, the moment is passed. She's like, nigga, like, I'll see you.
Rory
But I've done that and pulled up.
Ryan
See me tomorrow.
Rory
But nah. In the Lincoln Tunnel was terrifying. I didn't think that one through.
Ryan
Hit that. Because you got to stay in your lane anyway. Yeah.
Rory
But even, like, it's only this Much and this much.
Ryan
Hit the hat. See, that's because you, you closing your eyes. You going through the.
Rory
For sure. Yeah.
Ryan
See, you know, you got the.
Rory
And I gotta, I gotta watch, watch.
Ryan
Gotta watch, watch the road. Nah, nah, I'm watching this mouth.
Rory
Oh, and you know on the Audi, when like you stop grabbing the steering wheel, like a whole caution bell goes off like crap, you know, like when airplanes go like, pull up, pull up. That's what my Audi does. If I, if I don't touch the stairs.
Ryan
Yeah, you'll be going. Yeah, you can't. Roadhead ain't for you, bro. Because you want to relax. You want to take your sneakers off. You. You going crazy.
Rory
Now that I know that you could just put socks in it and.
Ryan
Yeah, I didn't know that. I didn't know that was. It was a tick tock trend.
Peach
Through the boxers is crazy. Through the briefs.
Rory
That's just tea. That's just star, right?
Ryan
I've never had that before.
Rory
Yeah.
Ryan
Have I ever had that? Yeah, of course I've had the teas. I've had that.
Rory
Better than sucking a hang sock.
Ryan
Yeah, 100. 100. Sucking socks is crazy. It's just cotton. It's pure cotton. Like, what do you.
Rory
I could see like the stocking, the sexy like. Like that. Cool.
Ryan
Yeah, cuz a stocking you could rip and get right to the toes. A ripped cotton socks. He too strong. Go in the house. How you ripping cotton socks? Like, what is you doing?
Rory
And was it like laundry day? Cuz, you know those socks that start deep. Maybe they had holes in them already.
Peach
No, baby, holes in my socks. You think I was out on a date with a hole?
Rory
I thought it was a date. I thought y' all was just. Just cruising.
Ryan
You thought he just picked up the sucker.
Peach
No, it was the first date.
Ryan
First date. Lock this up.
Rory
I thought y' all had been like.
Ryan
Lock him up, man. You don't even talk to him no more.
Peach
Oh, nothing.
Ryan
He what?
Peach
I don't know. I don't talk. He doesn't have my phone number. I don't have his. Yo, he got me a birthday gift though, but.
Ryan
Oh, he's a grade A sucker.
Peach
That. No, that does not mean that double entendre.
Ryan
I don't have your number. I sucked your feet through socks. First date and on the first date and I bought you a birthday gift and I don't even have your number.
Peach
We haven't spoken in a couple years, but he is.
Rory
What?
Peach
That means he owes. He owes.
Rory
Do you want to revisit mall's original point.
Peach
What was my.
Rory
Should that gentleman be locked up?
Ryan
Yes.
Peach
No.
Ryan
Yes.
Peach
He's a good guy. Shout out to him.
Ryan
Sign a petition to get him off the street.
Rory
He's not.
Ryan
We got to clean up our Rory. We got to clean up the community. I'm trying to tell you.
Rory
I'm telling you now. This month, I have found out I am the furthest thing from a freak. Like, I thought I had a little something in me, but no, I. I have the most boring sex on planet.
Ryan
Oh, now you with me? Because y' all used to call me vanilla sex when y' all be like, mar, you don't do that. I'm like, no, I'm not doing that.
Rory
Well, no, we know you were eight, but we just thought you like missionary. Eight.
Ryan
Missionary is great. We gotta start one of my favorite down on missionary. Missionary is great. The older you get, I know everything.
Rory
Is safe and good.
Ryan
Missionary is, like, now, you know, like, you go for walks. It's like going for a walk through the park. It's like, this is what. All these years, I used to laugh at the man feeding the pigeons, the bread.
Rory
Nature.
Ryan
I'm him now.
Rory
Yeah, I get it.
Ryan
I don't want to talk to none of you. I want to talk to the ducks, the geese, and the pigeons. I don't want to talk to none of these niggas in my bills.
Rory
Building literally just did that right in the meadowlands. Went through the whole nature wall. There's people kayaking, and I'm like, I would do that. That's like a Cleaning up, the hacking.
Ryan
Yeah, that's a different level of peace. Like, that's where I'm at now. So missionary is like. This is beautiful.
Rory
Yeah, doggy style just. Just for her birthday.
Ryan
Oh, yeah, doggy style is special occasions.
Rory
Crazy.
Ryan
That's doggy. That's special occasions. The Knicks just lost. You gonna get this missionary, and we going to sleep, man. That's. That's the best I can do.
Rory
I am not a freak, man.
Ryan
No, no, I'm not a freak. I'm not a freak.
Rory
I even watched, like, porn. That was freaky. Like, I could. I'd probably be fine with that. That's not even freak. Porn's not freaky.
Ryan
No, no. Porn is just, like. That's very.
Rory
Reading what's going on in the world. Not just with the puff trial. Even down to sucking Hayne socks on the first day. I'm not a freak.
Ryan
Well, the puff trial has commenced. And, you know. Well, yeah, it started. It's happening. There's been a lot of people, you know, that's coming into town, a lot of bloggers, a lot of people with podcasts have been courthouse and then reporting on, you know, the test of the testimony that's been given by witnesses. Well, Cassie Ventura, some of the things she said. I'm not gonna lie. We kind of. We. We talked about it back when all this happened, Rory, and Puff was arrested. I sat here and I said, yo, we're gonna hear some things once this. This trial happens. We're gonna hear some things that's gonna have us looking at people very different. I. I was. I think I even spoke when I said that I was. I wasn't prepared. Some of the things that we're hearing now, as a lawyer, I would just have to turn the Puff and be like, all right, so why did you want his come on your nipples, though? Like, what does that do for the freak level?
Rory
Objection. You're leading the witness.
Ryan
No, no, I'm talking about. This would be just a conversation between me and my client. I would turn apart from, like, yo.
Rory
So they can't record. Like. Yeah, like, I need to get this defensive.
Ryan
Like, you would let your girl let a guy have sex with your girl, Finish all over her, and then you wanted her to come in the other room and rub. Rub his. The guy's semen on your nipples.
Rory
That's what they call him.
Ryan
What is coming. Nipples. What is that? All right, well, Damaris, you stop the Yo Ma. We're not talking about, bro. Women are supposed to have come on their nipples. Cool. No man has ever told you, damaris, rub my cum on my nipples.
Peach
You right. I'm not arguing with you.
Ryan
So now, let alone another man's come on my nipples, what level of freak are we at? Yeah, that's not. Listen, I'm gonna just say it, man. Keep that in jail, man.
Rory
Thought I told you that we won't stop.
Ryan
Yeah, man. You want another man to come on your nipples?
Rory
Nah, he was just running out of things to do.
Ryan
It's never that much.
Rory
You'll never stop a creator.
Ryan
Nah, man, that's. That's the different level. That's the devil. That's Satan.
Rory
I agree. And before we get to, like, the actual details, I will say I've lost sleep reading it because they were in the Gramercy Park Hotel in the suite. There's only one, like, presidential suite there.
Ryan
Great hotel.
Rory
Amazing. I shot a video there, a ludicrous video, actually, with Aristotle. And we stayed in the suite for three days because we were shooting, like, why should we get hotels, everyone to leave? There's three bedrooms. I'm now having nightmares of what I was laying in the black lights that we had on set. I should have gave a whole. I don't want to stay in hotels anymore. But then Airbnbs don't. Too much freaky happens before you get there. And I don't really. I don't feel well about it.
Ryan
Listen, if we going down that, that hotels and Airbnbs. Very nasty. Yeah, very disgusting.
Rory
But to get off the jokes, I knew that this would get the timeline in a cum nipples. Not just that of just a anti Cassie thing. News flash. Woman has consensual sex with her boyfriend at one point. Crazy.
Ryan
Yeah.
Rory
Now that takes away from everything Cassie said before because at one point she was having consensual sex with her boyfriend.
Unknown
Right.
Ryan
Whoa.
Rory
I, I hate the timeline during these types of things.
Ryan
Well, I, I even saw some people. Yeah. And again, a lot of these people online are just a lot of, you know, bot accounts and just people just tweeting things to stir up. Seen people saying, oh, your boyfriend can't rape you. I was like, all right, all right. Y' all are just. Now y' all are just, just stupid. Like that's, that's not true. It's absolutely can happen and it does happen, unfortunately. But again, I just think that this trial and everything that we're hearing, it's just letting us get a glimpse into some of the things that people into out here. I don't think that this is. I think this happens more than we think. I think that this is very common when you're at a certain level of life and a certain, you know, stature. I think this is very common. These type of practices and these type of things happen all the time. I just think that it's unfortunate in this situation because somebody was taken advantage of. A lot of people are saying, well, Cassidy, you know, for years she went back. There's a such thing as Stockholm syndrome. You know, people that get arrested do time in jail. They keep going back to jail, even though they say jail is terrible. It's like, but why you keep getting arrested, going back to jail.
Rory
Stockholm on steroids.
Ryan
Yeah.
Rory
It's funny the things that the people on the Internet skip over with the testimony because it doesn't fit the narrative that they want to speak.
Ryan
Oh, if you don't for the narrative. Yeah, we get rid of it.
Rory
Are we also skipping over the points that Cassie suggested that he was having assistance and security guards stalker. He was blowing up cars to anyone that that would talk to her was smacking people if she went to their concerts. Like, you're dealing with somebody that is harming people. And her. Her. Anytime she tries to leave, and when she tries to leave, she's being followed and beaten.
Peach
They said. They said that hotel video was her trying to leave.
Rory
Yeah. So everyone relaxed with this. Why didn't she leave? Especially if you've never been in that situation. Like, I don't. I. People just pick and choose what they want to hear.
Ryan
Oh, of course.
Rory
And I knew, even with the testimony of her suggesting that she was raped by him and then they had consensual sex, I think like a year or two later or whatever, I knew that was going to be the, you know, the incel version of, like, look, she's lying. It's like, I don't know if this was a. A very tumultuous and disgusting relationship on both ends, too. I'm not in any way getting Puff off the hook for anything. But that entire situation that he created was awful.
Ryan
Yeah.
Rory
And she ended up a part of it. But she's still a victim, even though she stayed through the entire thing because she would have been harmed had she tried to leave every single time. What are we talking about here?
Ryan
As a father, Ro, do you think that Puff's daughter should be in the courtroom hearing this?
Rory
No.
Peach
Hell no.
Rory
Absolutely not.
Ryan
Yeah.
Rory
Nor. Nor his sons either.
Ryan
I mean, well, they said that. They said the daughters walked out, I think during some of the testimony, during.
Peach
When the male escort was telling his story, but when Cassie was testifying, if I'm not mistaken, they were in the courtroom.
Rory
And prayers to Cassie, too, being pregnant through that entire thing.
Ryan
Yeah. That's another thing. She's not just pregnant. Like, she look like she's due.
Peach
She's 8.5 months, I think.
Ryan
Yeah. Like, so, you know, just stress of that shit. Having to relive those moments, you know, and just being up there being grill and asked to recount everything that happened, you know, it takes a physical. A physical toll on anybody, but let alone a woman that's, you know, eight months pregnant. So, you know, especially with the artist.
Rory
That'S in that courtroom. Who hired him?
Ryan
Oh, the sketch.
Rory
It's some of the worst doodles I've ever seen in my life.
Ryan
Yeah, I don't. I don't know who that was. I don't know who those paintings are. That. Or those drawings. That was Amara. Yeah, that's. That look like the. Remember Mad magazine? That look.
Rory
That's actually exactly crazy.
Ryan
That looks Crazy.
Rory
These are nuts. The one when making the heart.
Ryan
Yeah. Who is that?
Rory
Who is like, are you trying to be abstract?
Ryan
Yeah, that's. That's not Puff. Who, who is that?
Rory
And the Cassie ones are even crazier.
Ryan
Yeah.
Peach
I think some people are not aware exactly of what Diddy is being. That's what I've seen from the public. A lot of people are like, okay, but what is he doing with Cassie? That's illegal. And he's being accused of leading a sex trafficking ring. Right. As they're calling it a Freo, which a Rico.
Ryan
Everything Freo is crazy.
Peach
Cassie is just the first wit. This is day one, day two, whatever of the trial. She's only the first witness. This is not reliance solely on her testimony. This is just helping paint a picture of the type of man that Diddy is. And the things that they are that she is talking about is just not freaky. These things are illegal. It is illegal to hire escorts, is illegal to fly them over state lines. It is illegal to blackmail people or, or beat people when they are trying to escape a sexual situation. Like all of these things are illegal. He is not just going to jail for being freaky. That, that. I know people are a little slow, but I feel like sometimes we have to break that down. And again, her testimony is not the only testimony that's coming.
Ryan
Yeah.
Rory
And even that again to, to what you're saying of her just being a witness of it. He's not even on trial for that video in la.
Peach
No.
Rory
Puff beating her up like this is to prove what he was doing sex ring wise. And I was talking to a prosecutor that is in the state of New York and he said if you think, think Puff is just on the line right now for flying a sex worker to New York, Miami or la, you have the feds completely up. That is part of one thing that they are proving in this case. And you'll see for the rest of this trial is what you told me. But I mean it's gonna get worse is just all I think. But you know, everyone took the first witness because it was Cassie. And it's like, oh, Puff, free this man, man. Which is insane to me. But I don't know. It's the, it's the Internet.
Peach
Yeah. It's the racketeering charges coming from. They're alleging that he used his business empire to fuel and conceal his criminal activities and that he used his money, power and influence and employees to criminal ends. Which is why they're asking, asking qu. Cassie so many questions about the Assistants and the drivers and the. Who was there when this happened? Who was there when this happened? That's where racketeering and him using his business comes in. A lot of people are not aware of that, though.
Rory
Crazy. But I think they're trying to prove that it was his entire business that was involved in the rico, whether they were complicit or not. Yeah, that was part of their job was to. You're my assistant, but it's also to follow my girlfriend.
Peach
Yeah, yeah.
Ryan
And assistant. If we just keeping it real in here today, the assistant needs to be brought up on some charges as well.
Peach
Oh, who? Lil Ghislaine? Yeah, for sure.
Ryan
Yeah. Like, we gonna. We gonna stop acting like, you know, y' all. You not part of it. You didn't. You didn't assist in some of the shit that was going on. If you worked for Puff and was booking flights or booking rooms or booking. You had a hand in that shit, too.
Rory
I mean, with knowledge that those things were.
Ryan
Oh, of course.
Rory
I'm sure there was some assistants that were there for a few months that was just like, hey, book this whole. This whole floor. They were like, okay, we know the.
Ryan
Assistant assistant wasn't literally, come here, just book rooms, book flights and. No, I'm talking about the assistants that know everything.
Rory
Yeah.
Ryan
Like, yo, I beat her ass. Get her to the hospital. You know, like, da, da, da. Take her to the resort, book her a room for two weeks, let her chill. Those type of assistants that know all of that dirt. And I believe that's obviously who this. This. This lady was for Puff.
Rory
And again, of course, I'm not making light or laughing at anything, but there was stuff in the testimony that just, like, showed the full arrogance of Puff. Like, when he would hire male escorts, he'd have a bandana over his face and be like, yo, my name's Black. Like, dog, you are Puff Daddy.
Peach
Well, maybe he like role playing.
Rory
Stop trying to hide your identity.
Ryan
I just saw the. I just saw the VMAs. I know you are, sir.
Rory
We know your voice.
Ryan
Yeah, yeah.
Rory
You made sure that we knew your voice on every single record interview. Like, you think one little bandana with baby oil and a freak off, I'm not gonna realize that that's. That's not Puff Daddy.
Ryan
Some crazy going on, man.
Rory
Crazy like, that's not Cassie. That's the other thing. You trying to hide your face. Like, we don't know who Cassie's dating.
Ryan
Yeah.
Rory
And we know what your voice sounds like. And we. Puff could have on a hoodie Bandana, everything, and say one word and Cassie's in the room. Be like, well, that's. That's P. Diddy. Just take the bandana off, Puff.
Ryan
Like, yeah, man. It's crazy.
Peach
Yeah.
Rory
How do you feel about four day free golfs? Couldn't do it. And I've taken Molly.
Ryan
Yeah. Nah. 40, yo.
Rory
No disrespect to Ro. I don't even know if Ro could get me there.
Ryan
Four days.
Rory
Four days.
Ryan
Nah, Ro might gets you through four days.
Rory
I'm gonna need. How do I stay up, though? Cause Roe is just to keep the blood flowing in a particular place.
Ryan
How do you feel about everything they're saying about Cassie's husband being there and him hearing all of these things? And they said that he was staring Puff down yesterday during the trial as the husband. And you have to hear your wife give her testimony of things that she went through with this dude. Would you stay in the courtroom to support your pregnant wife, even if you're hearing things and hearing the type of abuse and shit that your wife has been through? And I'm sure that they've had those conversations and she's told him things, but you can have a partner and know about their past, their history, but now to be in a courtroom and have to recount and give testimony detail by detail of exactly what happened, how it happened, and, you know, to hear your wife or see, watch your wife sit there and say, you know, she was time. She thought she was gonna die. She was exhausted, she had sores on her mouth and she had UTIs, and she knew the antibiotics weren't working anymore. And like, to hear that, that has to affect the relationship in some capacity once this all wraps up.
Rory
I think they've had these conversations countless times. And that's your wife and the mother of your children. Pregnant wife at that. Yeah, you got to be there to support her.
Ryan
But you.
Rory
You've already been. You've already accepted everything that has happened, had that conversation, you know to some degree how crazy that entire situation was for her. Yeah, you got to be there. It's different than supporting Puff. Like, the kids shouldn't be in there. But a husband, if she. Unless she's like y' all, I really would feel super uncomfortable if you were in there. Then, of course I respect your wishes because you are the victim here. And whatever you need or want from me, I got you. But, yeah, you got to be there for that. Nobody wants to hear their wife testify about consensual pissed and this and that, but I mean. And that doesn't trump all the abuse that happened to her. So you still have to be there to support her. And I'm sure there's no way they haven't had these conversations and knew exactly what was about to be said in that courtroom.
Ryan
Yeah. But I do feel like there's some things that she may have forgotten happened because they're going through old emails, text messages, and saying, oh, what about this? And do you think that there's anything that she probably didn't have conversations about or go into detail with with her husband that now emails and text messages are being read and things like that that she's reliving? Like, oh, yeah, that was when so and so and so this happened. And then, you know, he peed in my mouth. And I just think that there's something here where it's like, this is going to affect her marriage and her relationship in some capacity. Not saying that it will be something that the husband can't, you know, get past and they won't be happy and have a great life together, but there's something they're going to walk away from this with. And even in a way, you kind of. Just because I told you the story about a girl I was dating years ago when she told me that she was molested, it changed my energy with her. I was like, really? It was so fucked up to hear her say that. I was like, damn. And it changed our dynamic in our relationship. So to have a wife and then, you know, you hear these things in detail because she could have said, yeah, it was crazy. You know, we used to do this, do that, and. But now you have to, because you're on the stand, you have to tell it all. You have to empty out. You can't leave nothing on the table.
Peach
Well, before you even, before you even go on the stand, you're prepped for the stand. So Cassie knew what she might not know what the defense is going to ask her.
Ryan
That's what I'm saying.
Rory
She has an idea.
Peach
She knew what the prosecution was going to ask.
Rory
Same evidence.
Peach
So, yeah, her testimony is so far. She was prepped on what to say and what was going to be read off. So I'm sure she knew. And I'm sure her husband knew. I'm. I'm sure.
Rory
And again, I'm. He's a human being, so to say it wouldn't affect him, especially if he loves her. Yeah, of course that's going to be a thing. But I, I'll play the role of those. My feelings are the least that are Important at this moment.
Ryan
Oh, without a doubt. So.
Rory
But I'm saying that something I have to deal with.
Ryan
You would.
Rory
Would.
Ryan
But it would affect you.
Rory
Of course it would.
Ryan
So it would affect the relationship on a.
Rory
A bunch of different levels. Just number one, the abuse and all that. Down to stare and puff. Down. Down to some of the consensual too. Like, okay, that's crazy. Cool. Letting the freak flag fly. Cool. I'm not into piss, but all right, I'll piss neither.
Peach
Is Cassie fair, as she said on the stand?
Rory
Fair. But yeah, of course it's going to affect it. But this is something that I signed up for and I'm sure before he married her was aware of at least most of these things.
Ryan
Oh yeah.
Rory
And without a doubt comfortable taking on that role as now the support system of somebody that had been abused in the past. This is what comes with it. So you can't now say I signed up for this and then back out of it as her husband because it makes you fucking a little queasy in the courtroom now. You gotta be there to be a support system.
Ryan
No, you definitely gotta be there to support your wife.
Rory
You're also human and yeah, it's gonna affect you. It's not gonna be fun sitting there.
Ryan
Like hearing that shit. Yeah, yeah.
Rory
What I homie right here.
Ryan
Like, I get it. I'm just saying I think that, you know, it's up because it is going to have an effect on her marriage and her relationship coming out of this.
Rory
But I mean, it did probably going into the relationship to begin with. I'm sure dude went through a lot with her just because she was getting out of such an abusive relationship. And there was some like, conflicting times as well because she was talking to him when Diddy had raped her and then had consensual sex with him later on. Like there was overlap, but you know, when you're talking with somebody, there's always overlap.
Ryan
Yeah.
Peach
He was also probably aware of. It was probably easier to open up to him because he was her trainer. Diddy hired her as his train. So he was probably aware of some shit. Obviously not to the extent aware of some shit before he even started dating her.
Rory
That's what I'm saying.
Peach
So it's much easier to open up to this person when they're already aware that some. Some crazy is kind of going on with you. I'm sure she showed up to trainer with bruises or whatever. Like, you know, like he knew something was going on. So I'm sure she opened up to him. I don't think it will affect their marriage. I'm sure that that affected him, but I think that that's his temporary emotions. I don't think that their marriage changes in any way at all, I think. But I do think. I do think there's been a lot of talk about that and people have brought that up. And I know that mall is kind of two stepping around it, but there are some people who would not be able to handle their girl having a past like that. But everybody ain't built to be with you, and that's fine.
Rory
There's a lot of men.
Ryan
No, I wasn't two stepping around you.
Peach
I think you were trying to be respectful, as you should be.
Ryan
Oh, yeah.
Peach
But that's been a conversation that I see people having, but I don't know.
Ryan
I mean, again, the husband knows this is not his first time hearing most of these things. I just think, again, hearing in detail, and then obviously it's emotional. It's a difference if we're at home in the comfort of our home and we're on the couch and we're talking, having. Having those type of conversations versus now we're in a courtroom with a bunch of strangers staring at you, grilling you, asking you questions. My wife is up here crying because she's reliving all of this. Wow. That she had to go through. It's a different emotion now. Now it's like, yeah, I may have heard that story before, but not under these, of course, conditions and circumstances.
Rory
And the whole world didn't know it either.
Ryan
The whole world didn't know it.
Rory
My mom didn't know it.
Ryan
Right, right, right, right.
Rory
It's, of course, but if you signed up for that, that this is what. Oh, no, you got to be there for.
Ryan
Got to be there for and. And salute to him because, you know, he's, you know, he's. He's. He's carrying the husband flag and he's right. He's right by her side, and he's going. Going through this with her. So we got to salute him for that. But, you know, either way it goes, this thing is going to play out. I think it's going to get a lot worse. Things are going to start to, you know, a lot. I think other names are going to be pulled into this soon, but it is what it is. You got to go through the mud to come out on the other side and get through it. So that's just the situation that is at hand. But either way, prayers to Cassie and any other victims of sexual abuse, domestic violence, Things of that nature and no woman, nobody should have to go through that type of shit. But unfortunately it happens more than it should. And this is just another case of it and it being a high profile cases. Everybody seems to be talking about it. But either way, there are still real victims here and those are the ones that matter.
Rory
And I think I agree with you as far as the outcome of this. My prediction is exactly what you said. As far as more coming out, more crazy shit, few more names. I don't think he beats this. And I think the response is going to be, all right, so now we're getting 40 years for getting an escort. Now we're getting 40 years for flying a chicken to have consensual. Like, I just think that's gonna be.
Ryan
Those are people that don't know what the they know.
Rory
So I don't.
Ryan
I don't care about those people. I think sexual abusers should get everything they got coming to them.
Rory
Yeah.
Peach
And like we said on this podcast before, people are like, oh, you know, this isn't that big of a deal. Like you guys said that video, you belong to be under the jail. Anyway. I'm cool. I'm cool with, with Leonardo getting the Oscar for the Revenant. I'm cool for some back shit. Like, I don't care what they lock him up for. He needs to be locked up.
Rory
Yeah.
Ryan
Period.
Peach
You know what I'm saying?
Rory
I get when the feds can't get somebody on murder, so they get him on tax evasion like, all right, well, fuck. I mean, we got him in jail for something like.
Ryan
Yeah, like, they're like right next to Puff. We should put the guy that sucked Damaris's socks.
Peach
Don't do that.
Ryan
Put him in the cell. Right.
Peach
Don't do that.
Ryan
It should be 1a, 1b.
Peach
Very cuz.
Rory
That is not the same.
Peach
That was consensual.
Ryan
No, I know that was consensual. I'm just saying. I think we're just seeing the tip of the iceberg with that gentleman. Like any guy that sucks socks is. Yeah, he's. That he's just letting us know how his brain is wired. He's ready to go into some whole other.
Rory
Would you bring the sock in as evidence? 1A.
Ryan
Yeah. Damaris would be so mad if that they got her sock in a Ziploc bag. Like how y' all even got that vacuum seals.
Rory
If the sock don't fit, you must acquit.
Ryan
Sock don't fit.
Rory
They put that right. Put it on like Cinderella, you know.
Ryan
Baby, you have a fresh pedicure. You know that baby. He ain't going to the courtroom without a pedicure.
Rory
She ain't doing that yo. Throwing your whole foot on top of the stand.
Ryan
Oh my God.
Peach
You gotta do what you got to do.
Ryan
Gotta do what you got to do.
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Rory
All right, let's knock out the rest of the serious stuff so we can get back to the funnies. Tory Lanez was stabbed in prison. Despite how I feel about Tory Lanes, of course I don't want to see anyone get stabbed or be put in critical condition. So prayers to Tory Lanez in his recovery. I hear he's in good spirits. I have no conspiracy on why he was stabbed. I don't think Roc Nation put a hit up out to the Mexican Mexican mafia to get Tory Lanez. But you know, here we are.
Ryan
Has the, I don't know, Josh maybe has the prison released a statement about this incident yet?
Rory
Not that I saw. But there was also, you know, random people online saying the reason was Tori was flirting with Dude's girl like her wife. When during a visit. It's just a whole bunch of. That's on the timeline. I don't know if we'll ever really know the real reason. I even saw down to Kendrick Lamar put a hit out on him because he freestyled about him and all the comments below were like, that's a fact. Can we get rid of the term? That's. That's a fact. Anytime a shooter screams facts, everyone's like, nah, it's true and it's not.
Ryan
Yeah, no. Well, I mean, we'll have to wait to see what else comes of this. But like you said, no, I don't want to see, you know, or hear about Tory being stabbed up in prison.
Rory
Yeah, of course not.
Ryan
That's crazy. But on the other hand, on the other side of that, that is part of prison culture. That's prison life.
Rory
Prison looks like it sucks.
Ryan
Oh, yeah. Absolutely not somewhere I want to be. But either way, hopefully Tori is recovering and we'll see what comes. Comes of this. I'm wait. I'm waiting for the. The prison to give a statement on it, though.
Rory
Yeah, I know he has an appeal coming up. Obviously. There was a press conference yesterday or two days ago.
Ryan
It's always a press conference.
Rory
Yes. Where the bodyguard of Kelsey, who was her bodyguard during the trial, not before that. Because I don't think Kelsey needed a.
Ryan
Bodyguard before the trial, only she needs one now.
Rory
But yes, exactly. At the trial she had one. And the bodyguard overheard her say that she was the one that shot Meg. And now the bodyguard is potentially going to come forward. Sorry, Internet, I know this is the gotcha moment, but a random bodyguard saying he overheard some shit doesn't make me change my stance. I've even seen you guys change that. To the bodyguard that was actually in the car that I believe provided the gun, which was a fact at the time, was the one that said that he witnessed Kelsey do it. I don't know how you guys take a raw fact in front of you and flip it to something else on the Internet. It can't be the Pick Me podcast because everyone on Twitter thinks the opposite of us.
Ryan
Listen, man, I. I'm just. I'm just. I just try to stay as close to the facts as possible.
Rory
Even the women.
Ryan
Women. Yeah.
Rory
Let's not make this a man thing.
Peach
I don't even wanna. I can't. I don't even have.
Rory
Let's not do. Let's not just go at the incels and the men.
Ryan
Oh, no, women don't like.
Rory
I see just as many women saying free tour.
Peach
It's More of them. It's the few. Pick me ass, funky ass, dirty tooth ass. I'm tired.
Ryan
The ones that.
Rory
No, I really.
Peach
I really am tired.
Ryan
That don't floss. That's. That's.
Peach
I'm really tired because I. I know I don't expect much from men. I don't. I really don't expect much from men. Thank you.
Ryan
You.
Peach
I don't. I'm sorry.
Rory
I appreciate it.
Peach
But you. You women who are. It's just. Women hear something. There's so many women that hear something about another woman and just rush to disprove it. Y' all hate y' all. Y' all hate y. Ourselves. And it's because your mother hated you. And I'm so sorry that you had that relationship with your mother, but this is insane. It's insane. The relationship where women are rushing to disprove another woman. The amount of woman I've seen rushing to hate on doi. Rushing to say that Hal's lying. Rushing to say that Megan's lying. Like, just rush discredit. Women like rushing to. They've been on my ass because I said I was happy for Cardi being up. Posted up at the Knicks game with Stefan Diggs. And they're like, how are you happy for her? She went from one to another. Yo, just chill. Just kiki. Just laugh. Let the girl be happy. She's smiling like, what the. Why are y' all so miserable? And y' all want women to be miserable with y' all. Cassie like that. Cassie must have liked that. She was freaked out. You deserve to be six feet under with these. Y' all protecting, period. It's like, it's some. I am not for all women. Some of you are stupid. I swear to God. And that's what's really pissing me off. Because, like, especially as black women, we really do dead ass need to stick together. The whole entire world is against us, and y' all just be with us. Y' all be so trying to make. Oh, men listen. I hear y' all our black men. I hear y' all. I hear y' all, like, hold accountable, bro. Hold accountable. Because it could be you very easily.
Rory
Are you holding Cardi accountable?
Peach
Holding Cardi accountable. What?
Rory
Nothing.
Peach
Oh, I don't want to smoke. Yeah, I know. I'm happy for my sis. Y' all see her? Look at her. She glowing.
Ryan
I love like this, yo.
Peach
I'm messy. Me too.
Ryan
You know why I like like this?
Rory
Cuz they're competing with each other.
Ryan
No, no, no, no. Because in six months when this is.
Rory
Over when be together.
Ryan
When Stefan is caught out with another cuz. You know, he's a super.
Peach
He's already. I think he's dating other people openly. But this is the thing, though. Nobody said they didn't come out. Yeah, no, they didn't come out and say they in a relationship.
Ryan
I'm not saying they are. I'm saying in six months, when he. When he' new flame and him and Cardi is not even. They don't. They stop following each other. You know, all of that's gonna happen. Stop following each other. All of that. I just love to hear the women. That's like, I'm happy for my sis. Be happy. When Cardi is on IG live in six months and saying Stephon ain't be happy then too.
Rory
So I think it's roll out anyway.
Ryan
And I'm. I'm. Listen, I eat big Bronx. I'm happy for Cardi.
Rory
She never liked the Knicks.
Ryan
She had the Nick game. She's smiling.
Rory
This is. This is pr. What are we talking about?
Ryan
I'm just talking about the women. That's all I like. Yes. Cardi. Yeah. Move on to a better. Okay, see, I never.
Peach
I never said that.
Ryan
I'm just saying we. It's women on the Internet saying that.
Peach
Yeah.
Ryan
I'm just saying those same women. I want to hear from them when this has run its course, is all I'm saying.
Peach
But why does that.
Ryan
And I guess that was my consistency.
Peach
Because so many people. I put up a tweet about that in a tik tok about it, and so many people were just like, so, like, I'll never be happy for her. He just had a baby with somebody else. This, this, this, this and that. And I'm like, okay, that's fine. I don't know enough about that young man. Shout out to him. I just know he look good, and him and Cardi look like they having a ball. I don't care. That don't gotta be Cardi next husband.
Ryan
That's a fact. No, she said something.
Peach
She never came out and even said that was her, man. She was just at the Knicks game, sitting there.
Ryan
She ain't said she was canoodling. We caught them getting out the car, going into the hotel.
Peach
You canoodle with a nigga that ain't yours.
Ryan
Oh, no, y' all love to do that. Oh, no, y' all love to canoodle with a nigga that ain't yours. Nigga that got a whole family wife. Oh, y' all love that.
Peach
He does not have A family in a wife. Let's not put that on step.
Rory
Him, he got wives.
Ryan
Hell, no. A wife that ain't looking for no wife.
Rory
He's a Mormon.
Peach
Yeah.
Ryan
Stepan Stephan ain't looking for no wife. Stefan just want to have fun. He young, he lit, he got money. You know, he just want to have fun. Ain't nobody mad at that. I'm just saying. I think that a woman coming out of a marriage with kids. I don't know if you want to jump in that pond is all I'm saying.
Rory
Or is that the right.
Peach
That's exactly.
Ryan
There's not.
Rory
There's no expectations.
Ryan
Sometimes. Sometimes you need to be in that pond on a floaty by yourself with a margarita with a fucking book.
Peach
But who said.
Rory
Well, she's been single for a while.
Peach
Exactly. That's why I'm like. Who says she hasn't been doing that?
Ryan
I'm not saying she hasn't. I'm just saying this ain't the guy you wanted. This is not the type of guy you wanted.
Rory
Because that's the exact guy.
Ryan
This is. No, it's not. This is a. This is a public statement.
Rory
Agreed. There.
Ryan
This is a statement. Go to the Knicks game, courtside. They knew what they was wearing. They knew. They knew everything.
Rory
No, for sure.
Ryan
Cool. This is all part of the performance. We get that. Not mad at it. If Cardi is happy, great. I'm just saying, as a newly divorced woman with kids, I don't think you want to make a public outing statement with a guy that's known to have babies two months apart.
Peach
But. Okay, so I understand what you're saying.
Ryan
But that's all I'm saying. Have fun. But I don't know if that's the guy.
Rory
I don't want to say this, but it. All right. As opposed to her ex husband.
Ryan
No, no, no, no, no. I'm. That again, my first statement.
Rory
Who had kids two months apart before she was with.
Ryan
No, my first statement was I. It would have to me. To me. And this is just. To me. It would have been fly. If Cardi went to the Nick game by herself.
Rory
Instead, courtside, better headlines.
Ryan
That's what.
Rory
I'm not with the guy, but it.
Peach
Wouldn'T have been a headline. And I'm sure that she has gone to.
Ryan
That's Cardi B. We not doing that.
Rory
Not the same. Not the same way. Not the same guy that she has been rumored.
Ryan
Exactly. Because it's that attached to it.
Rory
Of course.
Ryan
I'm saying if Cardi B. Goes to a Nick Playoff game by herself and sits courtside. It's going to be headline. Absolutely.
Peach
I don't think it. I don't think it makes headlines.
Ryan
Sure.
Peach
Of course people are going to take pictures. Of course people are going to take pictures of her and things like that. Kylie and. And Kendall were also courtside. Of course it's car. Yeah. With Timothy. It's of Cardi. Of course. Anytime she's out, she's going to get pictures, whatever. But no, it's not going to be this huge breaking story. Cardi's been living her life by herself with her kids.
Ryan
Breaking story because she's newly divorced and that's why this is a huge breaking story. And now she's rubbing Stepon Diggs's face. The they said was that she was for months now. This is their first public eye. That's why I'm saying it would have been just as fly if not illa if she's at a Nick playoff game courtside by herself.
Peach
Okay. Yeah. But also I think the flyest thing is she her doing what she wants to do. Let's. I just want Cardi to do whatever she wants to do.
Ryan
He pops out at another playoff game with the new flavor of the week. And now Cardi looks crazy.
Peach
But how does she look? Crazy, but she looks crazy. But this is my thing. This is my thing. We don't know these people.
Ryan
We don't.
Peach
And I want that to be clear.
Ryan
Statement.
Peach
But.
Ryan
And we know the statement they're making.
Peach
No, but that's the thing.
Ryan
We're together.
Peach
You're assuming the statement they're making. You don't know that. That's what I'm saying. We don't know that.
Rory
That's what that we're trying to do.
Ryan
This is them coming out.
Peach
That could be true.
Ryan
It is true. It ain't no could be. This is their coming out moment. We're coming out at the Garden.
Peach
Okay.
Rory
This is a playoff game. Touching faces. This is it. It was.
Ryan
Was there nothing on Stefan's face?
Rory
But it could just be a PR move. But let's see.
Ryan
What's she rubbing? Was it nothing new there? He didn't have mustard on his pretzel.
Rory
He one hot dog.
Ryan
What are we talking about?
Peach
I just feel like we be a little bit too familiar with celebs.
Ryan
No, we know the game. I know the game. I know what this is.
Peach
I know how what you say.
Ryan
I know exactly how much happened that day with publicist. I know exactly how much happened. I know who had to go to the cleaners. To get a. A leather jacket. I know who had the make sure that installment was done by 4:30. I know who had to make sure the makeup chick was there, the rings.
Rory
Were on the right hand.
Ryan
You know how this goes. All step on, had to do was get a shave up.
Peach
Of course.
Rory
No, I got those braids redone that day.
Peach
My point is, when you said if she. If he pops out with another chick at a different game six months from now or whatever, Cardi looks stupid to me. She doesn't look stupid because she hasn't come out and said, this is my man. This is my husband. This is my husband.
Ryan
Even if she don't do that, she looks stupid.
Peach
Okay, well, that's your opinion. I think that's gonna be the opinion.
Ryan
Of a lot of people.
Peach
I think that's fine. Who gives a. I feel like Cardi has the right to do whatever the. She wants to do. If she wants to go out with her little hoochie. If she wants to go. I'm talking. If she wants to go out with her little hoochie and have fun, has the right to do that. If people want to sit up there and say that she looks stupid, they can say that. I just personally don't think that she looks stupid. We all go out on dates. We're saying now that Cardi B. Is not allowed to go on any dates until she's married.
Ryan
No, no, no. That's not. Nobody ever said that. Show me somebody. Well, I didn't say that. I don't know who said it. I didn't say that. What I'm saying is as Cardi B. This is Cardi B. We talking about. One of the biggest name celebrities in the industry to be newly divorced, and the first time you step out after your divorce is with this young NFL dude that's known to be a super whore.
Peach
It's not her first time stepping out. And that's why I just want that to be said publicly. Cardi has been coming out to call.
Rory
Him, going into apartment, hotel, whatever it was.
Ryan
Yeah, I'm talking about.
Peach
Oh, you mean stepping out with a person?
Rory
Not with him. She's been caught with a guy.
Ryan
Is this her first time stepping out with another man publicly since she was.
Rory
No, she stepped out with him before.
Ryan
I understand that, but that wasn't. They didn't mean to get caught. They were still creating.
Rory
No, they meant to get caught.
Ryan
All right, you say that. Yeah, I'm saying publicly to make a statement. This is the first time. Okay, so what I'm saying is, you're.
Rory
Next to the fucking Kardashians.
Ryan
So what I'm saying is, I, me personally, I just think that Cardi should be wiser in who she steps out with because we know Stephon. Stephon's just trying to have fun. Now Cardi could be having fun too. Newly divorced, you want to have fun, you don't want to be tied down. Great. I'm just saying it's gonna look away if he's out with the new flavor of the month next week. And then Cardi is sitting on IG live trying to defend why she stepped out of the Nick game with this nigga.
Rory
Well, you're not looking at the underbelly of the competition. That happens after a breakup. A long. A long term relationship breakup at that. Cause Offset is posting polaroid photos with a bunch of hoes.
Ryan
That's her.
Rory
Just with dead eyes. Just with dead eyes.
Ryan
I know pain when I hear it and I see see it. That's pain that Offset is not happy. Okay, but Cardi looks like she's having a ball.
Rory
I know, but is that not the masterclass version of how breakups go? Men go to a bunch of hoes that they don't like with a dead heart to just try to through the pain. And then women go with somebody that's going to end up with another flavor of the week that may just look better, more richer, whatever, and goes to court side. They're doing the same thing. Just how women do it and how men do it.
Ryan
I know how Offset can win the Petty game though. He got to go all the way though. This is like the see he needs.
Rory
To enter the NFL.
Peach
Somebody said match him Christmas pajamas with another.
Ryan
No, he got to get a white woman.
Rory
So you take too far, you hoes gonna be.
Ryan
If Offset pop out with a white.
Rory
He'S not gonna win the competition.
Ryan
I'm just you crazy as hell. It's a whole thing piece on Twitter right now. Women like, yo, I ain't gonna lie. I'm gonna be real as a black woman. If my leave me and pop out with a white, I might kill everybody. That's black. Women hate nothing more than when a move on. And his new is white. That's like top God level of I'm gonna just go all the way petty on y' all. I'm gonna get a white.
Rory
So is he gonna be like eyesight now.
Ryan
He got to get like a Sabrina Carpenter.
Rory
He's not.
Ryan
He gotta pop out with like Sabrina, like all gotta go.
Rory
Okay, but that's different than just getting A white woman, because that's like a established, very talented. She just happens to also be established.
Ryan
Stepan Diggs Carpenter, from what we know.
Rory
Publicly, is not a. That just goes like, until.
Ryan
Until.
Peach
Please don't put that.
Ryan
Until off. Turn her on. Let you know how that go. Yeah, y' all thought. Y' all thought she was out of my reach?
Rory
No, I'm not saying no. First of all, I'm not saying that she's out of his reach. I don't know either of them. I'm just saying that's. That would be the wildest relationship.
Ryan
Where we going? If we going Petty. Let's go Petty. I'm going to get Sabrina Carpenter.
Rory
It's all right. It's Stefon Diggs is easy.
Ryan
Oh, yeah, that nigga.
Rory
So, yeah, Cardi B could get Stefon Diggs for sure.
Ryan
Yeah, she's def. She definitely for sure.
Rory
He's easy. And Stephan, I need to dig because I been very easy.
Peach
Ah, I see your entendre.
Rory
I get it. But Sabrina Carpenter, you're not just scooping up for the battle with your. Your. Your ex wife. You're not. You're not just scooping up Sabrina Carpenter.
Ryan
N. But that's. That's.
Rory
He's supposed to get Lady Gaga next.
Ryan
That's a stat. That's a stat because you don't even think that off. Could. He could pull that off.
Rory
If he does, then, yes, he wins.
Ryan
This is what I'm trying to tell you. Offset gonna go get Sabrina. Car. Remember I told you.
Rory
All right. What about Doet?
Ryan
Okay, okay. Both rappers.
Rory
Well, Sabrina's not really a rapper, but.
Ryan
No, I'm just saying. I'm saying Cardi's a rapper. Yeah. Yeah. Dojas. Yeah. Doja might have balls for Cardi. I want. I want to see that, bro.
Peach
If you think.
Ryan
What? Dojo got bars.
Rory
Doja's type is, like, white Internet guys, right?
Ryan
Until Offset. You're not seeing a lot of, like.
Peach
Gold on Offset dick. I'm not going to hold you on his. What you putting a lot of gold? It means, like, you putting a lot of, like.
Ryan
Don't say I'm putting gold.
Rory
I think everyone understood what you said.
Ryan
I'm putting gold on a dick. Don't ever tell me I'm putting gold on.
Rory
Put a dick on the pedestal.
Ryan
No, I'm just saying we don't. We don't know. Or he could be a cool, charming guy and just be like, yo, you want to go to a game with me?
Rory
We've seen him do the Michael Jackson.
Ryan
This is what I'm saying. He's. He's successful, he's had success. He's.
Rory
You know, I saw this on the timeline. Speaking of white women, would you rather be first in line to fight the gorilla or last in line for Bonnie Blue?
Ryan
O tough, tough question.
Rory
I even see Peach pondering now, man. I feel like if I'm last in line for Bonnie Blue, put me first in line for the gorilla. Cuz I'm going to want to kill myself.
Ryan
Yeah, first in line for the gorilla. You're going to die. Yeah, last in line for Bonnie Blue. You might just want to kill yourself.
Rory
Yeah. So.
Ryan
But you don't have to kill yourself.
Rory
No, you probably should though.
Ryan
You probably should if you're going to be last with Bonnie Blue. Yeah, but the.
Rory
You have a lot of issues you need to worry about.
Ryan
At least you have options with Bonnie Blue. If you with a gorilla, you're going to die. That's okay.
Rory
But at least your. Your legacy, like you went out like a soldier. Like people will respect your name forever. Your name will ring bells if you go last with Bonnie Blue and then kill yourself. I don't know what your legacy is going to be.
Ryan
Yeah, but no, that's why you don't.
Rory
Kill yourself first with the gorilla. Well, all right. If you stay alive, what's the Batman long enough to see your legacy like you're going to become the villain. I think your life isn't going to go well after you go last in line with you can't turn that around.
Ryan
Yeah, no, you're right. But if my options are first to fight the gorilla last, you can't just.
Rory
Be a crossing guard after that.
Ryan
Yeah, life is over. I'm the last to to go. Bonnie Bluto. It's at the end of the day. No, no, it is.
Rory
I'd rather get the I want and then go to the front lines and die.
Ryan
And what we don't talk about.
Rory
And then they were going to make a documentary about me. A movie like my name will ring bells if I'm first. I'm the first one to go after the gorilla.
Ryan
No, that you're the dumbest dude that ever lived.
Rory
Going last in that line is way dumb to me.
Ryan
N hell no. It's still. It's still a white woman. You know, attractive sex.
Rory
I mean raw.
Ryan
Did she get her check?
Peach
She tested everybody before she let them have sex with her.
Rory
It man ain't nut right away.
Ryan
Who?
Rory
You don't think they all didn't nut right away?
Ryan
No.
Peach
You invested in this you want to go. I feel like you want to do it.
Ryan
He definitely want to be like, number 27 for sure.
Rory
Y have me completely up.
Ryan
Yeah. You don't like white women. My bad. I forgot.
Rory
I'm not waiting.
Peach
If you see your ex touching wood up on the. The. The screen at Madison Square Garden and you want her back, what you do? You sitting at home watching the game.
Ryan
And my girl's courtside at a game.
Peach
Not your girl. Your ex girl that you have.
Ryan
Is that a game with a football player courtside?
Peach
What's your next move? What's your first move?
Ryan
White woman.
Peach
No, I mean, your first move, like, sitting there at home, like, what's your first move move.
Ryan
Oh, man. Well, you got to cry. You got to get it out. You got to get it out. You got to cry.
Rory
Who is her op.
Ryan
Yeah.
Rory
Who can I conspire with?
Ryan
Go. The girl that do her brows go for how much?
Peach
The person who does Cardi's brows is probably paid.
Ryan
Yeah, go her.
Rory
She not.
Ryan
She not offset. Offset. Why not? She ain't out offset. Tax bracket is price rage. You can absolutely.
Rory
We don't know that She's a.
Ryan
She could just be a lady or not. But she said she not offset. Like, why not?
Rory
I don't know. I've never met him.
Peach
I mean, I'm not going to throw away my. My loyal.
Ryan
Yeah.
Peach
You know, some women, like, do have loyalty to each other, right?
Ryan
Very few of them out there. Very few women don't give a about. You just said women don't like women. You just said that.
Peach
You know, you right.
Ryan
You just said that women don't like women like. Like that.
Rory
Are we doing it with an offset cardi situation or putting ourselves in that position?
Peach
Like, putting yourself in that situation. What do you do?
Rory
And you've never been in. You know, I'm a Knicks fan, and you've never, like, you've never watched a game with me. Every time I said goofy, like, yo, y. Y' all really get, like, this hype about a sports team. That's goofy.
Peach
You got another, like, you name on your back on your jersey.
Rory
Your feet are touching the. The. The hardwood that I've been waiting for years to be able to do. Nah, nah, nah.
Ryan
See, you're not even doing the entendres. She touching both hardwoods.
Peach
Yeah, touching wood. Rubbing wood on the. On the hardwood.
Rory
Yo, man, probably in the shoes I bought.
Ryan
See, this is what I'm saying. Like, you gotta sit home and cry first. You gotta be alone. You gotta cry, because if you don't cry. You're gonna make an irrational decision, right? So you cry. You get that emotion out of you. Then you watch the replay of the game so you can see it again, right? Cause you gotta go back. You gotta face it again. You gotta face it again. You gotta look it at. At it. You got to face the pain, right? And then you go down all the list of women that she ever, like, has something slick to say about them. Like, oh, she thinks she cute. Her body looked that. And you got to knock them down one by one.
Rory
Every girl you even accuse me of.
Ryan
Yeah, I gotta go get her. I gotta go get her first.
Rory
First I would call my therapist and say, hey, your services are no longer needed.
Ryan
There will be no I'm fixed.
Rory
Healing will not happen. Everything you've told me to do, I'm going to do the opposite.
Ryan
Yeah, I don't want to hear it.
Rory
It'll be nothing about growth that's about to happen. No, we're going to go in the darkest deep. What's that? Manchurian Trench, Whatever the that is called.
Ryan
That's a fact.
Rory
I know I got that wrong, Josh, but look it up. That's how far I'm going when it comes to that. Maybe we'll heal in three or four years, but.
Ryan
Yeah, but right now, give me the rose Sparks and let's go courtside at the Sparks game. That's what we doing.
Rory
If that matter of the northeast exit where everyone from courtside goes out, I might. I might pop a row right there with. With your op and right on the guard rail.
Ryan
He's going crazy.
Peach
He doing too much.
Ryan
He's going crazy. Josh, do we have voicemails?
Rory
That's crazy.
Ryan
That's very crazy. You're not in the Garden.
Rory
No, it's outside.
Ryan
You're not outside of the Garden. I mean, you're going to jail.
Rory
Listen, I'm trying to.
Ryan
He wasn't.
Rory
He kind of was.
Unknown
You've got man.
Rory
Hell.
Unknown
What up? What up? It's Jones from the dmv. Shouts out to y' all, love you guys. All right, so check it. Two years ago, got happily divorced. Since then, was running around the city acting a fool, getting my off. Now that I got that out my system, I'm dating this woman and it's both of our first long distance relationship. So being faithful isn't hard for me. It's not my problem. The problem is trying to keep this fun and make it feel like there's less of a distance than there already is. We're getting creative. We're Doing things. We both have good jobs and both making six figures. So it seems like this long distance is going to be very long before we narrow that gap. So I'm asking you guys, guys, one, have you ever been in a long distance relationship? And two, what are some things you guys were doing to keep it creative and fun? To make it seem like the distance was less than it actually was? Love to hear y' all opinions and shouts out to y' all, I love you guys. Peace.
Rory
I know six figures gets chopped down pretty quickly after the IRS gets it, but you guys can fly to each other. Both people are making six figures years, right?
Ryan
Oh, yeah, absolutely.
Rory
But I mean, how many times the economy middle I've done for some like, yeah, get the last seat, dog.
Ryan
Yeah, you'll be there in no time.
Rory
Don't, don't check any bags. Like, especially if it's not that expensive.
Ryan
Like, if, unless you live like California, New York, that flight is a little. It's like five and a half. You're like, ah, but if it's like New York, Texas, New York, Charlotte, New York, Miami, bro, it take me longer to get home sometimes.
Rory
Yeah. Good facts, you know what I'm saying? From Manhattan, from this studio, like, I.
Ryan
Could take a flight to Texas. I could be home. I could be in Texas in two and a half, three hours.
Rory
Yeah. Take that middle seat and fulfill that fantasy.
Ryan
Yeah.
Rory
Because other than that, like, how much more FaceTime sex, how many more Beat off videos could you really send?
Ryan
But long distance is cool because, you know, distance, you know, you can kind of keep it spicy. The chemistry, the anticipation and things like that. But do cool, like whatever her favorite restaurant is, you know, order some delivery from her favorite spot. Don't even tell her. Just have it pop up to the door while y' all on the phone. Shit like that.
Rory
Well, he's saying spicy. I think that's, I think that's a gentleman way to go about a gesture and you know, as a, as a boyfriend. But I think he's talking about more about like the naming. Like, how do we keep this spicy when we're far away from each other?
Ryan
I mean, I don't get it. As much as I wanted it, it's always going to be spicy. I don't get it.
Rory
How do we keep this horn. Horniness moving is what I think he was getting at. Am I, am I wrong there?
Peach
I don't think it's just horniness. I think he just means just period.
Ryan
So that's the energy, the chemistry. Yeah, I think just little like that, you know, maybe send us some lingerie that you want her to.
Rory
Yeah.
Ryan
Make a video for you like that.
Rory
I mean, what's. What's tough about the long distance? If it's been a while, you start giving out requests that you probably can't even fulfill. Feel when it comes to, like, the sex side, because it's just been. So you're just running out of things to say now. You start saying that you can't even do.
Ryan
Yeah.
Rory
And then. Then you show up to Dallas, and it's like, yo, I was just talking, Rory.
Ryan
As men, we don't talk about that enough. Like, them long. This is relationship. We talk so much. Yo, when I see you, I'm gonna pick you up and nail you to the like.
Rory
Nah. Like, that's not even my style.
Ryan
You don't even know. You get that one round in that hotel. You done slept through dinner. You wake up, it's 10:30 at night. You're like, oh, shit. Like, I promised shorty so many rounds, and I was gonna do all this nasty shit. We came in here and had vanilla sex and took a crazy nap.
Rory
Or even worse, you fly down in New Orleans, y' all hit Bourbon street, and you get back at 2, 3 o' clock in the morning. You go straight to sleep. Oh, man, you didn't even fulfill one part of what you said you was gonna do.
Ryan
You don't even know. You don't even know you fall asleep in that type of circumstance, you're gay. In her group chat, girl, this. I think this.
Rory
She wide awake, sitting there like, oh, girls. Oh, screenshot.
Ryan
She gonna. Screenshot. She gonna take a picture of you snoring. A video like, I think he gay. I'm in here with this lingerie on. I came out the shower, the bathroom, I was changing. I come back this in his sleep. I think he like. I think he like men. What? We just was out all night drinking. I flew into town. Like, I'm tired. I'm not gay. I'm sleepy. I guess that's kind of gay, but whatever. Yeah, it is. What is it? This.
Rory
Then you meet a real freak, and you start talking about, we going to this. This strip club. We doing this and that. And you're like, let's go to that dive bar and play pool.
Ryan
Yeah, we going.
Rory
I'm not even doing none of that crazy.
Ryan
I towed it down a little. Yeah, fellas, be careful when I'm long distance. Stop promising you not going to deliver on when you see that.
Rory
Girl, I'm telling you, this is how Pathetic. I am. I promise. And then got in there the first night, and they was on that type of time, and I was like, yo, it's just the first night. Let's take it easy.
Ryan
Yeah, we got a.
Rory
We don't want to go crazy the first. We got a whole weekend.
Ryan
I'm here till Friday.
Rory
Saturday, I leave Sunday night.
Ryan
Man, listen.
Rory
Then Saturday, you like, yo, let's just like, let's get brunch.
Ryan
Yeah, let's like, we can order some like that new series we said we was gonna watch if you had a nice hotel. Yo, we just order room service, but we ain't. Where we going. We just order. She gonna be fucking hot. She got that dress fresh off Amazon. That shit just got delivered before she got on her flight. She want to put that dress on and step outside.
Rory
I'll do even better. More. Let's fuck a hotel. You go to her city and stay at her crib. And then you lay in. It's 11:30 in the morning on a Saturday. Saturday. Now you have a. Like a report.
Peach
You have a rapport.
Rory
Yeah, that's a random doing that long distance relationship. What I'm talking about here.
Ryan
Yeah, but you know what? We don't think about a long distance relationship. Here we go between that distance. It's a lingering.
Rory
It's.
Ryan
No, it's a lingering. He can't help himself because it's a lang.
Rory
Hypothetically a healthy long distance relationship who's.
Peach
In love, the guy we're giving advice to. And you sit up here telling his cheating on him.
Ryan
No, I'm not talking about him. I'm just saying that it happens. I'm not saying his. This situation. No, I don't. I'm not. I'm not saying. I'm not putting that energy on him.
Rory
Well, I've stayed at women's cribs and all that shit. I was talking even the next day on Saturday, I said, I didn't know your bed was this comfy. And then just stayed in it all day. Didn't go to one brunch.
Ryan
Nah, because you know why it's fun. See, because long distance, you get that hotel. Y' all could. Hotel sex is just.
Rory
It's different.
Ryan
Yeah. It's like if we in her crib, it's like, I can't fuck her bed up. She got to take the sheets off, throw them in the wash, get the new sheets out. We got to change the bed. We not doing all this my on schmermy. I'm trying to get the fitted sheet on right Like, I'm not doing this, man.
Rory
You know you can put pants on before you start shaking the seat.
Ryan
I'm not putting no pants on in no hotel. Yeah, like, yo, we need new sheets. It's called press zero. Like, I'm what you want me to do.
Rory
And ball is so sick. I feel like he would judge her if she got the elastic sheet on too quickly. Like, oh, you used to this.
Ryan
No, I like that. That means she. She know what she doing around how she's domesticated. I like that. I like a woman that know how to change the bed quick. I like that. That shit. Yeah, but I don't want to do that. I want to fuck up the room. And then we leave and go get smoothies and shit and make sure they clean our room. And the time we get back, now we got a fresh room. Fuck it up again. That's that hotel, see? Yeah. Get a hotel room, man. Fuck your long distance relationship, however.
Peach
No, no, no, no, no, Mal. Cause we. We've had this conversation before. If you're in a long distance relationship that you guys eventually want to end up living together when you can. You want to see how she lives?
Ryan
Oh, no, I want to see her crib. I want to see her layout. For sure. But. But we not staying here. Nah, we could go there, you know, chill, whatever, Whatever. Maybe you want to cook. All right, cool. But we about to go back to the hotel. I'm going to get you on that balcony and yeah, we going to go crazy. Yeah, that type of shit. Now if you start staying at her.
Rory
House, I don't have to get that off to a girl that I'm dating. I'm going to get a hotel and not stay at your house. She would look at me crazy.
Peach
Yeah.
Ryan
Nah, she wouldn't. She wouldn't. Especially if it's a nice hotel. They like that little staycation.
Peach
Little staycation.
Rory
Little stayation I get.
Peach
But if we've been in a long distance relationship for a year or so, like, it's.
Ryan
Oh, no. Yeah. At that point you want him to stay at your house and.
Peach
Yeah, because I want to. Because I get it. Like, hotels are cool, but I don't want to have to pack up all my makeup and all my extra shit and continue to bring it to a hotel. I want to get ready in my own crib.
Ryan
Like, nah, but I got the nice hotel. I got a vanity.
Peach
Yeah, that's fine, but it's not the. It's just not the same, like packing up all that shit. As a woman, it's A lot.
Rory
I'm not talking about, like, you talking to a chick that, like, lives in projects in the room. Yeah, like, no, I'm not staying there. But, yo, we don't know.
Ryan
She got dating a girl that rent a room. Room. Oh, my God. That is a different type of pain, bro. Walking out of her room to go use the bathroom. And her roommates isn't playing 2k and she don't even speak to them.
Rory
I would never.
Ryan
Yo, y' all, they never live that life, man.
Rory
I'm never staying with a girl that has a roommate at 35 years old.
Ryan
No, no, not at 35. I'm saying, when you in your 20s.
Rory
Oh, hell yeah.
Ryan
And you dating a girl and you find out she got like, is she renting a room and I'm a dap.
Rory
Homie she met from Craigslist for that whole. Yeah, yo, you all right. What is this, 2K?
Peach
That's the life of your 20s, man.
Ryan
That shit is treacherous. Don't ever live that life.
Rory
Can I say I don't respect long distance relationships. I don't think y' all are in one. You don't have to be long distance relationships. That's not being a contrarian. I've never respected. I've said to my own close friends that are now in relationships with those people. I didn't respect it at that time. You guys never go through anything. It's an anticipation to see each other. Everything is a vacation location. Everything is a honeymoon. Honeymoon phase for three days. There's no real fights. You guys never really have to deal with anything except for missing each other.
Ryan
Okay.
Rory
Or, hey, you didn't text me back in time when you were out. Like, there's no real fights. There's no.
Ryan
Long distance relationships.
Peach
Right?
Rory
Oh, no, they're great. They're. They're. You know, the three month relationships that we always talk about that we think are the best. A long distance relationship, is that all the time?
Ryan
Yeah.
Rory
And then I see the long distance relationships. Shorty will move there or he'll move somewhere. And this lasts for like four months.
Ryan
Yeah.
Rory
Because they weren't really in a relationship. They were in a honeymoon dating phase. And everything about the relationship was, I can't wait to see you. It's the only thing they had to deal with.
Ryan
Yeah.
Rory
And then the time that they had, there's no fights. We only have three days with each other.
Ryan
How do you.
Rory
Let's go run around and have a blast and then I'm gonna go home.
Ryan
How do you keep that energy with somebody that's not long distance business. Like that. The anticipation of seeing you, excited to be around you.
Rory
How do you keep that open relationship? Nah, joking.
Ryan
How do you keep that baby?
Peach
I mean, I think that if it, it will always fade. I think that you can. I think people continue to grow and I feel like you should always be rediscovering your partner because people change once a week. Like people change. So I feel like if you're always learning who you are, your partner will always be on a journey to learn who you are as well. I think if you guys just have open communication, stay open to your partner, also becoming a different person. I think that it could work, do fun things. You have to put in effort. Relationships are work. Love isn't work. Love is natural. But relationships are work and you have to put effort into them.
Ryan
Relationships are work. I think that a lot of people are just in relationships with people that they don't really like.
Peach
Oh, that happens all the time.
Ryan
Like you, I think when you like genuinely like the person you're with, like, y' all have that friendship, that, that type of relationship. Like, we're friends. Like, we goofy, goofy. We have fun, you know, just that third. We know each other's mood swings. We know when to give each other space. We even joke about the mood swings. Like, oh, you having a mood, I'm giving you a space. Like, you know, I'll leave the house or whatever, whatever. Go get your hair done, go get a massage, whatever. That type of. You gotta like your party. You have to be friends with your partner.
Rory
But long term, like, let's say you start dating when you're 25. You're gonna be a whole new person at 28, a whole new person at 33, a whole new person at 35, whole new person at 40. Like, no matter what, if you're in a long term relationship, you're gonna have to deal with people changing and you're also going to change. Yeah, I hear you. Yeah, that means the change. You, you should watch some people grow out of each other in that way. Like, oh, yeah, that happens sometimes. At 25, we were perfect for each other, but it didn't make sense at 28, which those three years are way more drastic than maybe say a 35 to 38.
Ryan
But that's. You speak into.
Rory
You could be a whole different person.
Ryan
Yeah, but you speaking more to a person, just outgrowing them because you know, as you get older, your. Your focus change.
Rory
Y. I want to focus on family, you want to focus on career. Like, that's not.
Ryan
But that shouldn't be a negative. That should just be like, yo, we just not on the same.
Rory
Well, that's a tough thing to say to somebody that you feel like you want to have a long term relationship with. Oh, never mind, forget it. You're doing other things. Let's just break up. Like, it's not. It's way easier said than done.
Ryan
Oh, of course. But again, you have to understand your partner. You have to know your partner and have those conversations.
Rory
I don't know him. They changed.
Peach
It's also this, this because of the Internet. Now we have this. Everybody has this illusion of, of options and, and they look at other people's highlight reel. So when things start getting difficult in their start getting difficult in their relationships, they're looking at other people's highlight reels like, ah, I can tie my life to this person instead, and I wouldn't be dealing with this. And it's just like all of that is a facade. Like there really is when I say there's nothing out here. Like, it really is tough out here. Dating. If you find somebody that you love and that you have good chemistry with and you guys, lifestyles align, find, fight for it, fight for it. You don't be too much in your ego to fight for it. Same with this guy that called for advice like, yeah, it's going to be a little bit difficult. You guys are long distance, but eventually y' all are going to be together and you can be like, damn, I wish I missed when we were long distance. So just fight to make it fun. Enjoy each other, like in the moment that you're in now. Because it really ain't nothing out here. I'm telling y' all, it's rough.
Rory
That's. I think there's probably more long distance relationships because of Instagram, period. Now because people try to date in their city, it doesn't work and they just think the grass is greener somewhere else.
Peach
It'd be greener other places. They said in New York City is the worst place in the country for dating. I agree with them.
Rory
But how do you get that?
Ryan
Nah. Yeah, see, that's.
Rory
How do you get that?
Ryan
We're not going to just start throwing out stats on New York.
Peach
I think what they did, I think what they did is compare the marriage rate and the rate that was in New York City, the price of living and surveys, and they gather their information. But I can see why New York City has so many people and just what I've experienced in my dating life. New York City has so many people that no one is, like, focused. I won't say no one, but a lot of people are not focusing in on one person because it's too much going on like this. It's Instagram. In real life out here, you walk outside. I walk past 17 bad bitches. I walked one walk. I mean, one block. So there's so many choices. People aren't trying to settle down. We have a huge hookup culture here.
Ryan
Yeah. But you get to a point, Baby D, where you just realize everybody don't wash their ass.
Rory
Ass. That too.
Ryan
So, like, once you get there, once you be like, yeah, she cute, but she probably her butt stink.
Rory
Like, and also, how many hours you have to put in to work to even afford this? Like, how do you date somebody at that point? I'll take the random hookup and have six different. Who's ever available for the two hours I have free this week. Like, how do you even have a.
Ryan
Relationship in New York?
Rory
Yeah, it's tough to maintain the lifestyle out here and how much it costs. You have to put in a lot of hours, hours of work.
Ryan
Yeah. But I mean, the average person I know a lot of people need. We're in great relationships and happy with each other.
Peach
If you want it, you'll make it work.
Ryan
Yeah, absolutely. For sure. No, I'm not. That ain't me. I'm just.
Rory
I know, I know it's not you.
Ryan
I ain't speaking about. You know me. I'm talking about the gentleman from wherever he's from. Him talking about him. Hopefully we answered his. His question.
Peach
Yeah, just keep it spicy. Put the. Put the. Put the effort in to. Don't be afraid to take that flight and just do what y' all gotta do. And honestly, you guys say you both make six figures. You have good jobs. If you are taking this serious, you. You are eventually going to have to.
Ryan
You know and learn how to cook. Women ain't leaving a that know how to cook.
Peach
Yeah, I ain't gonna lie. If my last nigga would've known how to cook, I'd have stayed a little bit longer.
Ryan
Of course you would have. You ain't leaving when that put rosemary on a steak. You ain't going nowhere. Where you going?
Peach
I would have still left, but just a little bit late.
Ryan
Going to the nigga with the air fryer. You ain't going over over there.
Rory
Air fry. Air frying a steak is.
Ryan
Sit down. Hold on.
Peach
I have air fried a steak before.
Ryan
Who air fried a steak?
Peach
I air fried.
Rory
You hit the cell next and that's just you.
Ryan
Is you puffing sockman in the same.
Peach
Cell I air fry.
Rory
You should go back to sockman.
Ryan
Yo, man, that you worse than the girl that. Who was the girl that said air fried live crabs?
Peach
No, she was wild. No, she was wild.
Ryan
Live crabs in the air fryer. Turned it on.
Rory
Wait, what did she put in it?
Ryan
No, she just put the old bay on. They were still moving and she boiled. She put water in there, man. People are crazy.
Peach
That's. That's just torture for no reason.
Ryan
Air frying live crab.
Rory
That's it.
Peach
Crab in there screaming.
Ryan
It's all kind of clickety clacking going on. They trying to get the out. But back to you in this. Air frying this.
Peach
So. So how did you.
Ryan
You didn't vlog that? See, that's the shit you need to vlog. That's the vi that's going viral. That's going everywhere.
Peach
No, because the ninja fryer, I have air fried steak. First of all, plenty of. I got the. Not that I got the recipe, but I seen someone do it on TikTok and I'm like, oh, I never thought to do this because I don't always cooking a steak, especially the way when you really cook a steak, I don't always want that strong smell of a seared steak with the smoke and everything that comes with it in my house. I don't always want that. With the air fryer. It kind of like same thing. When you put it in the oven, it kind of cooked it a little bit slow, lower. But I, I just, I did like steak bites. I like air fried like steak bites, man.
Rory
Sear that and then broil it. If you, if you care that much, It'll take you 10 minutes at most.
Peach
That's fine. I didn't want to do that. I chopped the steak up, chopped the bites up, season them and threw them in the air fryer. It was amazing.
Rory
You still chewing? You still chewing this?
Peach
No, it wasn't. No, it wasn't. It was actually medium rare. No, it wasn't. An air fryer is just like any other, like method of cooking. Like, you lower the time, you lower the temperature if you don't want it to be tough. It literally was medium rare and rare.
Ryan
Okay, well, baby D shout out to you and your.
Peach
Yeah, I don't do it often, but yeah, hell yeah. I did that for some quick meal prep. And you would do it too.
Ryan
Oh, yeah, Maybe I don't. I don't know, man. Well, air frying is vegan crazy. But you know, I'm not mad at it. I. I'm an advocate for the air fryer that should be doing some. I'm like, yo, this.
Rory
Will you be cooking in the air fryer?
Peach
Vegetables.
Ryan
You know what I put in the air fryer?
Rory
I don't know. Vegetables are pretty.
Ryan
I'm y' all up with this one. You know what I put in the air fryer one time? What Totones that came. Came out. And I still can't believe that was that good.
Rory
Okay?
Ryan
I'm talking about fire. Flip them shits over, put them back in there. Get that salt, little lime on that. You got to squeeze the lime like that.
Rory
Do the video. Yeah, I want to watch the video, dude. Do this step by step so we can, we can watch it.
Ryan
A tutorial.
Rory
Yeah. Tongue twist.
Ryan
You got 40 planting. No, I should have. I ain't had no choice. I should have. I could have made a whole mofongo on that. All them plantings out I had. I could have made a air fried ongo.
Rory
That's funny. All right, well, we getting a Patreon.
Ryan
All right, well, let's get out of here. Let's get over to Patreon. Talk to y' all in a few minutes. I'm that. He's just ginger and we're on Patreon.
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Podcast Summary: New Rory & MAL - Episode 371 | If The Sock Don't Fit
Release Date: May 16, 2025
Hosts: Rory and Maul from iHeartPodcasts and The Volume
Maul initiates the episode with a discussion about Degree's deodorant formula change. Last year, Degree altered the scent of their popular Cool Rush deodorant, leading to significant backlash from loyal customers. The demand was so strong that Degree acknowledged the mistake and decided to revert to the original formula.
The core of the episode delves deep into the world of battle rap, focusing on recent freestyle battles involving renowned artists like Joey Badass, Rayvon, Daylight, and Big Sean. Rory and Ryan dissect the performances, highlighting the intensity and skill displayed by Joey Badass.
They discuss Joey's strategic approach in the Red Bull freestyle battles, his impactful verses, and how he overshadowed other participants, including Big Sean.
The conversation transitions to Rayvon's response to Joey's freestyle, evaluating Rayvon's ability to match Joey's prowess.
They express concerns about how Joey will fare against formidable opponents like Daylight, who is praised for his intricate rhyme schemes and battle rap skills.
A significant portion of the episode addresses the high-profile trial involving Puff Daddy (Sean Combs) and Cassie Ventura. The hosts discuss the allegations of abuse, sex trafficking, and the impact of the trial on personal relationships and public perception.
They delve into the complexities of Cassie's testimony, the involvement of Puff Daddy's assistants, and the broader implications of the trial on the music industry.
The discussion also touches upon the societal tendencies to judge or discredit victims based on public narratives and the role of media in shaping these perceptions.
Transitioning from the heavy topics, Rory, Ryan, and Peach engage in a lighthearted yet insightful conversation about the challenges of long-distance relationships. They share personal anecdotes, offer advice, and humorously navigate scenarios that couples might face when maintaining connections over distances.
The hosts emphasize the importance of communication, effort, and understanding in sustaining long-distance relationships, blending humor with practical advice.
Throughout the episode, Rory and Ryan infuse humor into their discussions, particularly revolving around quirky topics like sock-sucking anecdotes and exaggerated scenarios involving relationships and personal habits.
These segments serve to balance the serious discussions, providing listeners with entertaining and relatable content.
While the primary focus remains on the discussions above, the episode includes brief segments promoting various brands and services, such as Lenovo PCs, GoDaddy’s AI-powered business tools, and WNBA promotions. However, as per the podcast guidelines, these sections are minimal and seamlessly integrated into the conversation.
In this episode of New Rory & MAL, listeners are treated to a blend of serious analysis and lighthearted banter. From the revival of a beloved deodorant scent to the intense world of battle rap and the intricate dynamics of high-profile legal cases, Rory and Maul navigate a diverse array of topics with insight and humor. The episode serves both as an engaging discussion for fans of hip-hop and battle rap and a relatable exploration of relationship challenges, all while maintaining an entertaining and conversational tone.
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