Episode 372 | Ratcast

Summary

Podcast Summary: New Rory & MAL – Episode 372 | Ratcast

Release Date: May 20, 2025

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Introduction

In Episode 372 of New Rory & MAL, titled Ratcast, hosts Rory Farrell, Maul, and Daylight engage in a dynamic and often heated discussion covering a range of topics from sports achievements to personal controversies and the evolving landscape of battle rap. Skipping through intermittent advertisements, the episode delves deep into the dynamics of New York City's sports scene, a recent social media controversy involving Cardi B, and an intense debate over the current state of rap battles.

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1. Knicks’ Playoff Success and Team Dynamics

The episode kicks off with an enthusiastic discussion about the New York Knicks' impressive performance in the NBA playoffs, lauding them as the "greatest dynasty in NBA history."

• Rory Farrell [04:36]: "The Knicks made it to the Eastern Conference finals. We are the greatest dynasty of my lifetime."

• Maul [05:02]: "Enjoy it. Because you're not going to get this again, not in our lifetime."

The hosts express admiration for players like Jalen Brunson and coach Tibbs, emphasizing the team's resilience despite past injuries and setbacks.

• Rory Farrell [05:04]: "I think Jalen Brunson is probably the best pick at this point."

They highlight the unique "Knicks DNA" present in other playoff teams, underscoring the widespread influence of the Knicks' current form.

• Maul [07:09]: "The Knicks DNA is heavy. So it's going to be interesting to watch."

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2. Social Media Controversy and 'Homie Court'

A significant portion of the episode revolves around a social media incident involving Cardi B and subsequent fallout among the hosts.

2.1. The Incident

Rory Farrell references a clip where he questioned whether Cardi B should "take accountability," which was taken out of context and led to Cardi B publicly addressing the misinterpretation.

• Rory Farrell [03:53]: "I think we should finally clear the air, same way I did with Lex 10 years later and have that homie court of what your LOL's."

2.2. Internal Debate and Apologies

The conversation heats up as Maul and Daylight discuss their perspectives on Rory's comments, leading to a mock trial called "Homie Court."

• Maul [47:03]: "She specifically named Maul. She didn't say Rory's not the one that deserves to smoke."

• Daylight [55:23]: "I was just trying to point out hypocrisy, but she didn't."

The hosts navigate through misunderstandings, emphasizing the importance of context and personal accountability.

• Rory Farrell [36:40]: "We don't need to take these moments to just scream at the top of our lungs for clicks for one day."

2.3. Resolution Attempts

Towards the end of this segment, the hosts attempt to reconcile, acknowledging mistakes and striving for maturity in handling public disputes.

• Damaris [57:20]: "I apologize. I could have handled that better."

• Rory Farrell [62:54]: "Sometimes I like, deal too much in truth and don't realize what the Internet's going to view it as."

Despite the tensions, there's an effort to move past the conflict with aspirations for better communication in the future.

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3. Battle Rap Controversy: Joey Badass vs. Daylight

The episode transitions into a heated debate over a battle rap exchange between Joey Badass and Daylight, discussing the quality and impact of their performances.

• Rory Farrell [80:38]: "I was very disappointed and underwhelmed at what Daylight did."

• Maul [81:21]: "The game has started. This ain't the layup line."

The hosts critique Daylight's performance, comparing it unfavorably to Joey Badass, and discuss the broader implications for East Coast vs. West Coast rap dynamics.

• Maul [84:14]: "People got to stop this narrative."

They express concerns over the evolving nature of battle rap, emphasizing the need for genuine skill over sensationalism.

• Maul [83:13]: "But we got the record, so now you don't get to get the record."

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4. Regional Rap Dynamics and Industry Critique

A substantial part of the conversation focuses on the current state of regional rap scenes, particularly criticizing the East Coast's decline in battle rap prowess compared to the West Coast.

• Rory Farrell [92:41]: "I think Rayvon is top 10 LA of all time."

• Daylight [93:03]: "But is Joey not a bad. Is he not a legacy?"

The hosts lament the lack of skilled "bar spitters" emerging from New York, contrasting it with the vibrant West Coast and other regions like Atlanta and Toronto.

• Rory Farrell [84:26]: "New York has been bad at the bar spitters."

• Maul [117:19]: "There's definitely a drought in as far as Spitters in New York for sure though."

They advocate for a resurgence of lyrical skill and authenticity in East Coast rap to regain its former glory.

• Daylight [112:43]: "We ain't doing."

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5. Lighthearted Banter and Future Plans

Amidst the intense discussions, the hosts engage in playful banter about upcoming plans, music releases, and future podcast content.

• Rory Farrell [122:08]: "There's a lot of stuff on this list. I'm very excited for our Patreon."

• Maul [120:14]: "Because I love it."

They touch upon various pop culture elements, including references to Baddies Africa and plans to involve guest personalities.

• Maul [120:14]: "I'm locked in. I'm all the way in on baddies, though. Baddies Africa."

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6. Closing Remarks and Apologies

As the episode nears its end, the hosts offer final thoughts, extend apologies where necessary, and tease future content.

• Rory Farrell [119:16]: "Have a great week. Safe week. We will talk to y' all soon."

• Maul [121:33]: "We love Cardi, man. Big Bronx. I always support to."

The hosts maintain a blend of humor and sincerity, aiming to leave listeners with a sense of closure despite the earlier tensions.

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps

• Rory Farrell [04:36]: "The Knicks made it to the Eastern Conference finals. We are the greatest dynasty of my lifetime."

• Maul [05:02]: "Enjoy it. Because you're not going to get this again, not in our lifetime."

• Rory Farrell [36:40]: "Sometimes I like, deal too much in truth and don't realize what the Internet's going to view it as."

• Daylight [55:23]: "I was just trying to point out hypocrisy, but she didn't."

• Maul [84:14]: "People got to stop this narrative."

• Rory Farrell [92:41]: "I think Rayvon is top 10 LA of all time."

• Maul [117:19]: "There's definitely a drought in as far as Spitters in New York for sure though."

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Conclusion

Episode 372 of New Rory & MAL presents a multifaceted discussion that navigates through sports triumphs, personal controversies, and critical evaluations of the rap industry's regional dynamics. The hosts balance intense debates with moments of humor and camaraderie, offering listeners a comprehensive look into their perspectives and the current cultural dialogues surrounding them.

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Note: Advertisements and promotional segments have been excluded from this summary to focus solely on the podcast's substantive content.

Transcript

[Rory Farrell]

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[Damaris]

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[Maul]

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[Rory Farrell]

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[Maul]

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[Rory Farrell]

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[Maul]

Start the week in Kurt. You can't start the week.

[Rory Farrell]

Yeah, no, but like, like in a Wolf of Wall street, like, get us all excited.

[Maul]

It's a great. It's a good time to be here, man. Great time to be here.

[Rory Farrell]

What a weekend. The Knicks are officially the greatest dynasty in NBA history. It is official. I mean, I get it. Lakers, Celtics, you guys did some things in the last ton of years, but the Knicks made it to the Eastern Conference finals. We are the greatest dynasty of my lifetime.

[Maul]

Yes. I mean, enjoy it. So go ahead. Keep going, man. Yeah. Because you're not going to get this again, not in our lifetime. So just got. Keep going.

[Rory Farrell]

I know the Democrats are looking for a candidate.

[Maul]

Uhhuh.

[Rory Farrell]

I think Jalen Brunson is probably the best pick at this point.

[Maul]

Absolutely. Definitely could be mayor.

[Rory Farrell]

What can't he do?

[Maul]

No, he can be mayor at this point. At this point. I mean, he hangs out probably just as much as the mayor.

[Rory Farrell]

No, he hangs out less than May.

[Maul]

Yeah.

[Rory Farrell]

He actually has a job. Matter of fact, Mayor Adams should look at his work ethic.

[Maul]

Yeah. Jalen Brunson actually has a job that he does. The mayor of New York.

[Rory Farrell]

He serves New York City.

[Maul]

He serves New York City on a real. On a real level. The actual voting, the. The guy they voted for, not so much. He's in doctor at a hookah lounge. Every time you look up, I don't know what he's doing.

[Rory Farrell]

I have never seen Josh Hart smoke hookah with French Munson. Never, not once in my life.

[Maul]

Never seen Jay. I don't. Jalen Brunson doesn't even smoke. He doesn't even smoke. So I'm with you. We need to vote. When Jalen is done doing what he's doing on 30 32nd street, we need to talk about what he can do in the office.

[Rory Farrell]

And, I mean, we don't have to get, like, right into sports right away, but this is beyond sports. This is just a New York City thing. This is incredible.

[Maul]

City feels very connected, very alive, very together right now.

[Rory Farrell]

Yeah. And, I mean, what'd we win by? We started taking it easy on him.

[Maul]

I think it was like 31, 30, something like that.

[Rory Farrell]

Man, if the Celtics had their full roster, we still cleaning them up.

[Maul]

I mean, listen, it doesn't matter, man. Nicks, the Knicks was hurt last year. Brunson got hurt the year before that. Julius was hurt. It doesn't matter. The Knicks will take it however they can get it.

[Rory Farrell]

Pacers. What? Like, I'm not even a Kappa for this series. Indiana? Yeah, Indiana University. Everything that's to do with Indiana. I don't even. I'm not a Newt for the week. Yeah, I'm calling it. I know. It's a bold prediction. Nixon won.

[Maul]

I like it. Very bold. Very bold. I like it.

[Rory Farrell]

Let's see what. See how it plays out.

[Maul]

Yeah. Yeah. See how it works out. Yeah, we gotta. We gotta see how it plays out. But congratulations to the Knicks and all of the Knicks fans. It's been a long time since the city has been able to, you know, have this type of energy. The interesting part is, though, as you look around the. The four remaining teams in the playoffs, the Knicks DNA is on every team, pretty much, except for Indiana. I think. Indiana doesn't have any former Knicks, do they? Obie Topping. Okay. Obi, Former Knick, Timow Wolves.

[Rory Farrell]

And Obi kind of smoked us Last year.

[Maul]

Yeah. Divincenzo and Julius Minnesota Hardenstein with, With okc. Yeah, man, the Knicks DNA.

[Rory Farrell]

Either way, it's going to be.

[Maul]

Tib's DNA is all over this thing. That's all I'm saying. Like, they like to give Tib shit. You know, he runs his players into the ground. But listen, man, the last four teams in the conference finals, the Knicks DNA is heavy. So it's going to be interesting to watch.

[Rory Farrell]

What's. Tibbs back? He's. What's his background? Because he is definitely like a Russian Jewish mobster from Brighton beach. Like keeping the starters in that long. Like how you still look salty and you up 30.

[Maul]

Yeah, yeah.

[Rory Farrell]

No, he's just glaring at the other.

[Maul]

Side like, job not done. Job like Cobra said, job not done. Tibbs don't care if we up there. He's seen some things from that sideline. Tibbs has seen his teams blow 20 point leads. He's not, he's like, listen, man, we knock him right there at the door to Eastern Conference finals. I'm not taking my foot off the gas, but congratulations to the Knicks in making the first Eastern conference final since 1999. That's crazy to even. Christ, think about it like that. I thought, I thought Melo got there at least once.

[Rory Farrell]

Melon never made it out of the first round.

[Maul]

Damn, that's crazy. Wow. Yeah, yeah, that's, that's tough. But congrats to the Knicks, man. It's gonna be interesting to watch. And the conference finals is gonna be interesting to watch. I think the four teams remaining are probably four of the most exciting teams in the league to watch. So.

[Rory Farrell]

So the first game is on Wednesday. Volume said they were gonna put us on the hardwood. So if you don't see us there at the Volume. Yes. Flood their comments, their Twitter, they told us.

[Maul]

Come on, Colin.

[Rory Farrell]

I would never lie on the microphone.

[Maul]

Colin, we heard you. We heard you and we call.

[Rory Farrell]

Colin personally called me over the weekend and said, roy, I need you on the hardware. I said, colin, if you need me there, I'll be there.

[Maul]

Listen, I'll clear the schedule. Colin, just, just let me know what time you at. At the, at the entrance and I'll be there. But shout out to the Knicks and it's going to be fun to watch, man.

[Rory Farrell]

Have you spoke to Julius during this playoff?

[Maul]

No, I haven't spoken to him. I thought about bowling, I thought about hitting him. I'm like, nah, I don't want to hit him. And then they go on a crazy losing streak. I'm like, nah, nah, nah, I'll hit. I.

[Rory Farrell]

You're the bad luck.

[Maul]

I don't know. I don't want to be. So I'll just. I'll hit him. I'll reach out to him after everything is all said and done. But, no, he's been balling. So shout out to Julius. Man, I'm happy. Happy to see him doing his thing out there in Minnesota.

[Rory Farrell]

Yeah, no, absolutely. Outside of that, it was, I guess, a pretty busy weekend for our podcast.

[Maul]

How busy was it? Man, I'd be trying to, like, step away from everything podcast related and just, like, live a little when it's the weekend and then come back together and kind of talk about everything. But somehow, some way, I felt so connected to all of you over the weekend. Even Peach, I felt connected to.

[Rory Farrell]

Even better.

[Maul]

Even. Oh, God. Oh, my God.

[Rory Farrell]

More connected than anything.

[Maul]

Yeah, well, I was more connected to better this weekend than I've ever, ever been in my entire life.

[Rory Farrell]

Maybe we'll. We're not gonna.

[Maul]

No, we can't.

[Rory Farrell]

It won't even be a Patreon thing.

[Maul]

But can't talk about that.

[Rory Farrell]

Just know, you know, thoughts and prayers.

[Maul]

Yeah, thoughts and prayers to Ben. That's our guy. But, yeah, man, it's been a lot. A lot of things happening over the weekend. We'll get to Damaris in a minute. Cause I just. I totally forgot. Baby D, you came here. First of all, Baby D came here. She bought y' all food, right?

[Rory Farrell]

Yes.

[Maul]

Let me tell you. Let me tell you how Baby D adds insult to injury. So Baby D, she's not vegan. No. She does what she does over the weekend, right? Cool. No, no, we'll get to that. But then she comes in here, she got food for y' all. You know, I don't know what she bought you or Peach. She just said food. She said, ma, my food has, you know, meat in it. Pause. So I got you a banana. Now, Rory, I don't know if you've ever seen anything more racist than a black woman holding a banana towards a black man. I don't know if you've ever seen.

[Rory Farrell]

And you're dressed like the man in the yellow hat today.

[Maul]

Like, I don't know if she's.

[Rory Farrell]

I don't know if I'm allowed to say that.

[Maul]

More racist than that, but thank you, baby.

[Daylight]

Oh, you gonna explain to these people how much you love bananas?

[Maul]

Oh, I love bananas.

[Daylight]

Exactly.

[Maul]

I love bananas.

[Daylight]

And I thought about you because.

[Maul]

And I said, thank you. Don't make it seem like I didn't say, thank you, Damaris. I appreciate. I said, thank you. I appreciate it. Did I not say that? You did exactly.

[Daylight]

After I stared at you. You stared at me? I stared at you?

[Maul]

No. Cause I was looking at you holding a banana. You holding it like this. And I'm just like, baby, you could have just said more. I got some bananas in there for you. Like, you could have just said that. You came back here holding a banana like it was a Grammy. Like, what you want me to. What you want me to say to that? Like, that's crazy.

[Daylight]

My bad. I'm sorry.

[Rory Farrell]

And that's one of those, like, just don't bring me anything.

[Daylight]

Yeah, see, no, I don't think that that's fair. I didn't say, damn, I gotta bring mall something. I'm gonna bring him a banana. I was sitting up there like, oh, I have all of these bananas. I should bring Ma some. Because Mal likes bananas, but we don't like ordering them for the office because they always go bad.

[Maul]

Yeah.

[Rory Farrell]

So she treated you like. You know when you have a cousin that starts, like, dating a chick with kids and you having your own Christmas, and, like, you don't really know her yet, so you, like, try to find something last minute for her kids get them socks. Yo, I thought about you. No, you didn't. You realize today was Christmas and they.

[Maul]

Were coming and they were here. They were going to be here. You didn't want them to feel left out. It's okay, man. It's all right. As adults. Listen, I appreciate it. Thank you for the banana. And I'm going to eat the banana paws, because I am. I am kind of.

[Daylight]

Well, I will make a vegan meal for you. Whatever you want that's vegan, I will make it for you.

[Maul]

Okay.

[Daylight]

I'm not making vegan Mac and cheese, though. That's an abomination. But anything else, baby, I keep telling.

[Maul]

You, I got to take you to the spot so you could try to bake the vegan baked Mac and cheese. I got to see. I'm mad I even told you it's vegan because I feel like a lot of that shit is like your mental. And you going into it knowing that it's like, vegan. I should have just like, yo, my mom's made some baked Mac and cheese over the weekend. I can't eat it.

[Daylight]

No, because then when I say, you know, I love your mom, I don't want to say her Mac and cheese trash, like, thinking it's real Mac. And then that shit is like, nah, cuz.

[Maul]

You wasn't going to say it. Trash. Be like, yo, this is good. I was going to be like, yo, that's vegan.

[Daylight]

I'm cool. No, but I made. Last night, I made baked turkey wings, smoked cabbage.

[Maul]

And how you smoke your cabbage?

[Daylight]

Well, you smoke meat.

[Maul]

Oh, okay. You smoked, like, smoked turkey neck.

[Daylight]

Yep, yep. No, I used smoked beef sausage.

[Maul]

Okay.

[Daylight]

Yeah. And a little bit of smoked pork, but. Yeah, so made cabbage and then you eat pork, Baby D. Cornbread. I eat bacon.

[Maul]

Okay.

[Daylight]

Like most Negroes. Yeah, cornbread and then macaroni and cheese. So I made that.

[Maul]

Oh, you went crazy last night.

[Daylight]

Yeah.

[Maul]

What was the occasion? Just Sunday.

[Daylight]

Yeah, just Sunday.

[Maul]

So who was there?

[Daylight]

Nobody.

[Maul]

You made all that for yourself?

[Daylight]

Well, oh, my little sister left in the morning. Yeah, she had a little bit, but okay. Yeah, but I. Y' all, I wanted that, and I've been craving it, but I can't leave that in the house for me to eat all that. So I bought it here for the guys.

[Maul]

All right. So y' all get the slops.

[Rory Farrell]

Yeah. And I don't know why. It's like, certain names of food bother me when others don't. Like hearing, like, pork shoulder or Neck. Like, when I see it on a menu, like, makes me cringe a little bit, even though I like that. But, like, chicken breast doesn't bother. Like, doesn't bother me at all, but there's no difference. And. Yeah, but I love boobs. Like, I wouldn't want to slaughter them and eat them. Yeah, but it doesn't make me cringe the way it's like, pork shoulder. It's like, can we. You guys are creative at restaurants. Come up with a new name for shoulder. Like, trick me.

[Daylight]

Trick me.

[Rory Farrell]

I just feel like they're so creative with everything. They put different languages on that that you have to, like, Google Translate. Yeah, but, like, we can't come up with something else for neck? Like, just call it. I know it's a neck, but please, just call it something else. It looks like it feel better.

[Maul]

Yeah, I can see the neck bone.

[Rory Farrell]

Makes my shoulder go like this. When I read shoulders, like, oh, man.

[Daylight]

Would you be eating it off the bone, though?

[Maul]

That's crazy. Yo, tell on the man. He'd be eating it off the bone. That's just me.

[Rory Farrell]

I hope this doesn't come across as hate, because I'm, you know, I'm really happy that they're overcharging for what they did to Bob Marley, but the Jamaicans in New York City right now in the food trucks and the food festivals. Highway robbery.

[Daylight]

Really?

[Rory Farrell]

I went to the 9th Ave Food Festival, and they was really, really grilling some jerk chicken. Like, I could smell. I was like, okay, yeah, you can.

[Maul]

Smell, like, 10 blocks.

[Rory Farrell]

That smells like Richmond Hill, Queens. All right. Bet that I'm going over there. Two jerk chicken orders come. Rice and peas, vegetables. I get a side of Mac, champagne cola, and a tin. Can you please guess how much that cost?

[Maul]

I'm gonna say $30.

[Daylight]

I would. It should cost around 22.

[Rory Farrell]

74. 98. I'm not gassing for the podcast. I'll bring the receipt in. And I had cash, and I had cash on me, and I could see that they were one of, like, the catering joints from Queens. So I was like, oh, they want.

[Maul]

Wait, what did you order?

[Rory Farrell]

Two. Two plates of jerk chicken. Like, two orders that come with rice and peas.

[Maul]

Yeah.

[Rory Farrell]

Champagne cola, Ting, a side of Mac and cheese.

[Daylight]

Oh, that should have been about 50. I thought you only said one. That should have been about 50.

[Maul]

Then there's a 75.

[Rory Farrell]

So it was. It was 25 each for the jerk chicken. The Ting and the Champagne cola were $5 each, and the side of Mac was $15. Highway robbery.

[Daylight]

That's insane. And you ain't even got nowhere to sit down and eat that.

[Rory Farrell]

So I was like, they definitely want cash. I was, you know, trying to be cultural appropriate, like.

[Maul]

And Trump has now we want to.

[Rory Farrell]

With the cars. Let me. I got cash on me. I had to go back to the stroller to get more cash. I was like, no, I think you rang up someone else's order.

[Maul]

Nah, we'd have had to split one dinner. Yeah, that's how we did.

[Daylight]

That was for Amara, you know, my.

[Rory Farrell]

Mom, because I was bringing food back to Jersey. So I was like, let me just grab this. Smells great. Let me do that. 74.98 N. They tripped, then had the nerve to say, the tip jars right there.

[Maul]

That's a pair of New Balances.

[Rory Farrell]

That's. That's. That's an electricity payment.

[Maul]

Yo. $74 for two dinners.

[Rory Farrell]

My Verizon bill.

[Maul]

That's crazy. From the. From the truck. Not even a restaurant.

[Rory Farrell]

No, it was a tent. Wasn't even the truck. They didn't have to pay for gas.

[Maul]

They wiling.

[Daylight]

They have to pay for gas is actually very funny.

[Rory Farrell]

And they tricked me because they had you. You know, the grill I'm talking about. She looks like a barrel. I was like, oh, yeah. No, this is for real. Recognize. Oh, you and Liberty have.

[Maul]

All right.

[Rory Farrell]

Bet this is good.

[Maul]

Yeah.

[Daylight]

Was it good?

[Rory Farrell]

74. No, it was amazing, but all I could think was 74.98 in my head with.

[Maul]

Yeah, that's the thing. Like, it's good, but it's not. 75 good, though.

[Rory Farrell]

75.

[Maul]

Yeah. Nah, we're not doing that. Not for. No. Come on, man. I love supporting vendors and food trucks, supporting my people. But. But come on, man. Y' all. Y' all try. Y' all. Y' all charging Philippe prices now.

[Rory Farrell]

That's Champagne Cola, not Dom P. Yeah, not.

[Maul]

That's not champagne.

[Rory Farrell]

It's not ac. That's a soda. There's no alcohol.

[Maul]

They might have gave you some crystal or something. Are you sure that wasn't crystal? 75 for two dinner plates is wild.

[Rory Farrell]

Yeah, it was nuts.

[Maul]

At a tent, man. At a restaurant, you can understand, but come on. At a tent now, y' all. Y' all support my people. Love y' all, man. But come on, man. We gotta. I mean, I know inflation is real, but come on, man, relax. With the prices.

[Rory Farrell]

Insane. Yeah, but, I mean, it was a fun weekend of taking Amara place to, like, some marine biology where, listen, there's turtles, eels, all this amazing going on. Amara just wants to run around a tree and throw a stick.

[Maul]

Yeah.

[Rory Farrell]

Then I took her to Hudson Yards for a magic show. She just wanted to go play with the fake rocks next to the picnic table.

[Maul]

What kids want to do. Yeah, I get it.

[Rory Farrell]

I saw this literally taking, like, doves out of thin air. Amara, stop making a rock collection in the corner.

[Maul]

Yeah. Means nothing. You don't care about that dub. I went to the. I went to the movies. I saw the Account, too, finally this weekend.

[Rory Farrell]

Okay.

[Maul]

Incredible movie. Incredible. I love the Account in one. The first one. This is two is way better than the first one, though. Ben Affleck really has, like, a. I see what he's doing with this series. Kind of like what Denzel did with Equalizer.

[Rory Farrell]

Yeah.

[Maul]

I think that's what they're on their way to doing with. With the Account. But I went to see Part two. Great film. Enjoyed it. They really did a good job. And. Yeah, man, you should go check it out. Did you see the first one first?

[Rory Farrell]

Yeah, I saw the first one.

[Maul]

Did you like it?

[Rory Farrell]

Loved it.

[Maul]

Yeah. Part two, to me, is a lot better, though.

[Rory Farrell]

Where do we rank Ben? I feel like Matt Damon gets his flowers. A lot of A Listers get their flowers. I just don't know if we give Ben the proper respect that he deserves.

[Maul]

Well, no, I think Ben Affleck gets his respect.

[Rory Farrell]

We've even had like, top five actor conversations on this pod. Even down to, like, us doing the draft on. On Patreon. Like, no one ever brings up Ben Affleck. And you can, because his matches up top five, though.

[Maul]

I'm not.

[Rory Farrell]

He's making a top ten.

[Maul]

Okay, okay, okay. I'm not mad at that.

[Rory Farrell]

I mean, if you want to go, like. Like, all the way back. No, I'm talking about this era.

[Maul]

Okay. Yeah.

[Rory Farrell]

What's. What's the racist guy that's been making movies since. For the last 75 years, Clint English. Thank you. See, exactly what I was talking about. Yeah. I'm not, like, saying, like, he's going up against Clint for the last 75 years, but this era, like, my. From 1990 to now. Yeah, Ben is out there. That's. He's top 10 to me.

[Maul]

I'm not mad at that.

[Rory Farrell]

He's done action. He's. He's done. He's done everything.

[Maul]

Yeah, he's done. I think. I think once you get, you know, Batman, if you. If you were Batman and then you were in the town. All right, now we like. It's like, all right.

[Rory Farrell]

And then Gone girl.

[Maul]

Yeah.

[Rory Farrell]

You're checking every box.

[Maul]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Then the account. You're the autistic. You know Hitman.

[Rory Farrell]

Well, that's because he lost the other autistic role to Matt Damon. And what's the one with. When they're in Boston and he can, like, do math and goodwill hunting? He wanted to be the autistic guy, but then he had to be the Southie you're gonna make. Ben wanted to be that guy.

[Maul]

Yeah, man, you gotta go check it out. If you haven't seen it yet, definitely go see it. It's worth going to the movies.

[Rory Farrell]

Damaris, I know you were out in the streets. We will get to all the bullshit, but just. Just warming up.

[Maul]

You was outside.

[Rory Farrell]

I'm in a good mood.

[Daylight]

I was not out. I was not in the streets where you was at.

[Rory Farrell]

You were.

[Daylight]

No, I wasn't. I went to. Where'd I go?

[Rory Farrell]

You went. See, I know where you went.

[Daylight]

Oh, I went to Saint. I went to Saint Alice.

[Maul]

That's the streets.

[Daylight]

That is not the street. I had one porn star martini.

[Maul]

I thought you about to say something else for sure. I thought you about to say, only.

[Rory Farrell]

At one point, I was like, anytime I'm with porn stars, I invite you. You invite me.

[Daylight]

I went to say, I had one porn star martini. And then I went to, how do.

[Maul]

You want to make a porn star martini?

[Daylight]

What's in that vodka passion fruit liqueur. It's. I forgot, but it's like passion. It's like a passion fruit martini.

[Maul]

Okay.

[Daylight]

Yeah. And then I went to last lap, and Last Lap was empty. Last lap is never empty. It was empty on a Saturday. So went. Had some good food, had a couple too many drinks, and then I went and stopped by Sahara. You know, I just did the wrong.

[Rory Farrell]

You hit every stop in the streets.

[Maul]

Yo, baby, we not doing this. We not. We got to stop this shit sooner or later. That's out. That's in the streets, you know, I don't. Three spots in one night.

[Rory Farrell]

Like, if she said, hey, I just went to lap, it was empty. It's not like I went to Saint Lapp and Sahara.

[Daylight]

Yeah, but this is my thing. I don't feel like it's the streets if I'm not socializing. So if I am only talking to the people I came with and we are not interacting with anyone, I don't feel like I was.

[Maul]

Nah, shop. No, we got to stop doing.

[Rory Farrell]

I've never been in the streets in my life.

[Maul]

If that's the case, I've never been in the streets. I don't talk to nobody.

[Daylight]

But, you know, I feel like in the streets is like. Know like you kind of, like, flirting, you mingling, you networking. Like, I wasn't on that.

[Maul]

I was networking. No, in the streets. If you went to three different spots in one night, baby. D, you was outside. I go to three different spots in one night. I'm have to get an iv.

[Daylight]

Yeah, I didn't feel outside, though. I. I don't know. I don't know. I think it was just. We were just sitting. We were talking, laughing, you know, drinking. I did drink a little bit too much, Smoke a little hookah, and that was that. I was home by 3am Smoking hookah.

[Maul]

3 different spots, and you talking about you wasn't in the streets.

[Daylight]

I don't know. I. I mean, maybe.

[Rory Farrell]

I don't know.

[Maul]

I just don't because, like, I was outside.

[Daylight]

I didn't have one of nights where it's like, yo, we outside. Like, we running. It wasn't like that. We were chilling.

[Maul]

No, y' all wasn't going crazy. But you three. You hit three different venues in one night.

[Daylight]

But they regular venues.

[Maul]

But that's three.

[Rory Farrell]

The definition of the streets.

[Maul]

Yeah. Saint Last Lap and. And Sahara. That's the streets. That's how you outside.

[Daylight]

Oh, okay.

[Maul]

That's like you hopped across around the city. You was in. On the east side. You was Downtown, you was west side. Like, you was all over the place.

[Daylight]

You're right. You might be right. Yeah.

[Maul]

No, you was outside, and it's okay, but don't sit here and try to put stipulations now, because I wasn't really talking to nobody. I wasn't flirting. So. Because you're not flirting, that means you ain't in the streets.

[Daylight]

I feel like being in the streets is like, when you have, like, a. Like, you. You in the streets when you try to go home with someone.

[Rory Farrell]

Hold on. Wait, wait. Weren't you making out with a girl on your IG story?

[Maul]

Oh, that was supposed to go to close friends.

[Daylight]

That was. It was not making out.

[Rory Farrell]

That's the definition of, if you ask Harry is making out with a girl on camera. We were outside.

[Daylight]

We were not making out. She gave me a. You know, what's the little things?

[Rory Farrell]

Little. Shotgun.

[Daylight]

Shotgun.

[Rory Farrell]

We were trying to kiss chicks in June.

[Daylight]

We're not making out.

[Maul]

Oh, she's passing hookah smoke.

[Daylight]

Yeah, that's all.

[Maul]

She had a cancer. I dig it.

[Rory Farrell]

Nah, they lip locked.

[Maul]

Y' all kissed.

[Daylight]

I even went, no, we did not kiss. We did not kiss. It was. It was the girl you met here. We did not kiss.

[Maul]

Okay?

[Daylight]

No, we were chilling. I tried to get Rory to come, you know, Let me tell you.

[Maul]

No.

[Rory Farrell]

When I saw the video, I was like, damn, I should have went. I went back to the video, and in my head, I was like, rory, she's a coworker. Rory, she's a co worker. Rory, she's a co worker.

[Daylight]

Let me tell you what Rory did, right?

[Rory Farrell]

That video was fire.

[Daylight]

Rory hit me with the. I'm like, yo, Rory, I'm at Saint. He like, word. You know, I'm putting Amara down. I'm like, I will. Just meet me at lap. He like, bet. So I get the lap. He, like, what you doing? Like, what you. Where it's at, what it's looking like, who all there? You don't want to come? I just stopped texting him. Yeah, I just stopped texting him.

[Maul]

No, but it was just valid. But as a dad, I need to know if. Is it worth me leaving my house and leaving my daughter to come outside and hang out for, like, those are valid questions. As a dad, though, like, if I'm putting my kid down, that's a valid question.

[Rory Farrell]

She's leaving out a huge bark because she's like, all right, I'm gonna be at Saint. And mind you, Saint is one block over from where I am at a specific time. And I was like, all right, I can make that time. She showed up way later and then stayed at Saint for, like, five minutes. So I would have walked over to Saint.

[Daylight]

Yeah, I showed up late.

[Rory Farrell]

In my slides and PJs.

[Daylight]

I showed up late. And even when I got there, you said, oh, I'm still trying to put them. You weren't even prepared.

[Rory Farrell]

No, I was prepared for the time before, but once nobody was there, then, you know, I might as well just put Amara down now. Like, Kia could have put Amara down.

[Daylight]

You ain't want. You ain't want.

[Rory Farrell]

No, I want to go. I even said to kids, I'm probably gonna go to St. She was like, cool. And then when you guys were late, I was like, I got bedtime routine. They're all flaking.

[Daylight]

I love.

[Rory Farrell]

And then by that point, they had went down to lap. I was like, am I gonna leave Hell's Kitchen and go down there? But here's the issue. I wasn't asking her those questions because I was trying to get out of it. I was trying to convince myself not to go.

[Maul]

Yeah.

[Rory Farrell]

Because once Amara was down, I caught that second win after chasing her around in 80 degree heat all day with a sunburn. I caught that, like, all right, go. Go treat yourself. You deserve a drink. Yeah, I was just asking any question for Damaris to give me a reason not to go. That's what I was trying.

[Maul]

Yeah, you fishing? Yeah. You fishing for a reason?

[Rory Farrell]

I wasn't fishing to get out of it.

[Maul]

No.

[Rory Farrell]

I was trying to convince myself not to go.

[Maul]

Bro, you're talking to somebody that's mastered that. I've mastered the yo. So who did? All right, well, let me know if it pick up in, like, 15 minutes. What it's looking like?

[Rory Farrell]

She didn't answer when I asked, what's it look like in there? Which I was happy about, because I thought there was, like, the complex food fest, I think, in Brooklyn.

[Maul]

Okay.

[Rory Farrell]

So I assumed everybody that was there was going to go to last lab, and I didn't want to do that. So I was assuming she'd be like, nice, super packed in here. And I would have been like, all right, cool. No way I'm doing that.

[Maul]

Yeah.

[Rory Farrell]

What I found out the next day was it was completely empty. If she would have text me is dead, I'd be like, oh, I'm on my way.

[Daylight]

Yeah, it was dead.

[Rory Farrell]

Make sure there's a chair right there.

[Daylight]

Yeah, I was taking shots back, had a little espresso martini, some wings. Shout out to the last lap group. They always make sure we good?

[Maul]

Yeah.

[Daylight]

Everything was amazing. It was good. The thing is, money was outside because the Knicks won. And they won. They parlays. Yeah.

[Rory Farrell]

And.

[Maul]

And wait, wait, hold on, Roy. You can't. You can't get. You can't just move past that. I tried to ignore shout out to the niggas that was outside because the money was outside because the Knicks won. The niggas hit. They parlay. Let me promise you something. Did not hit their parlays this weekend. It was so many upset.

[Rory Farrell]

30 point. What was the spread?

[Maul]

Yo, they was like, jaylen can't. Jaylen Brown can't get 22. He fouled out of the third quarter. He picked up three fouls in like two minutes.

[Rory Farrell]

The starters are still in.

[Maul]

Yeah. Everybody thought Jaylen Brown was going to go crazy because Jason Tatum wasn't playing. Everybody had Jalen for that deuce, deuce. It didn't happen. They was on my phone like, yo, they gonna trade him? He's out of here. Boston is. Yeah. Baby D didn't hit their ball.

[Daylight]

Okay, well, they were. Maybe they're just in a good mood.

[Maul]

Because the Knicks won and that's what it was.

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[Rory Farrell]

A little bit of my ego is why I wanted to go out as well. Because I didn't want anyone thinking I was scared to go outside my own city.

[Daylight]

Ha ha.

[Rory Farrell]

Like. Cause I saw people tweet me and shit. And I was like, no, I got. I don't let the city see me. I'm not scared of the brims.

[Maul]

Wait, why would you be scared? Wait.

[Rory Farrell]

By the way, I am scared of the brims. I want to make that very clear.

[Daylight]

Terrifying.

[Rory Farrell]

Actually, I actually wore this for you guys. Yo, we show solidarity as a peace offering.

[Maul]

Solidarity. Solidarity. I wore this red shirt as a sign of solidarity.

[Rory Farrell]

We're more alike than we are different.

[Maul]

Yeah, yeah.

[Rory Farrell]

You got to start saying shit that makes no sense.

[Maul]

Oh, man.

[Rory Farrell]

But yeah, I didn't want people thinking, like, I was scared to go outside or anything. Yeah, because, I mean, everyone knows it gets shaken at last lap.

[Maul]

Yeah, it gets crazy. And it's already tight in there. Like, you get into a fight last lap, you're going to get hit by accident.

[Daylight]

You gonna get jumped by.

[Rory Farrell]

You gonna run into the wall.

[Maul]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You can't fight unless there's no fighting because you can't fight. There's no room to fight in last lap. All right, baby. D, you was outside. We know, but.

[Rory Farrell]

Yeah, I mean, I, you know, I didn't want people thinking after Cardi said what she said that I wasn't gonna go outside. Like, you think I was scared?

[Maul]

No, I think you should have been, though.

[Daylight]

Facts. Damn, I look good. Sorry. That's what I was thinking the whole time.

[Rory Farrell]

All right, so do we want to start with this or do we want to get to homie court?

[Maul]

Nah, let's start with this.

[Rory Farrell]

Okay, well, this is going to parlay.

[Maul]

Us into homie court, though. This is going to parlay us.

[Daylight]

I'll read this. Do you want back? You want backstory?

[Rory Farrell]

Give some backstory.

[Daylight]

Okay, so I woke up first thing in the morning, and I'm not going.

[Rory Farrell]

To say anything like I did in that clip.

[Daylight]

Okay. I woke up and there is a clip page that clips. You know, they wake up the moment we drop. They clip anything that they think can be inflammatory. So they made a clip of inflammatory. They made a clip of me standing up for women. And a little bit of the Cardi conversation was in it, and then it got cut out.

[Rory Farrell]

I love how you just worded that. They clip me standing up for women. That wasn't the headline.

[Daylight]

They clipped me. Being an advocate. And a little bit of when Rory said, is Cardi gonna take accountability? They clipped and then like left like the rest of the context out. They didn't hear, like, mall really shitting on Cardi. Like, they didn't hear any of that. Right?

[Rory Farrell]

Oh, we're getting to homie court early.

[Maul]

So I. I did not get there.

[Daylight]

So that clip kind of went viral. Cardi's fans got a hold of it and Cardi obviously saw it and she felt some type of way because all she saw was Rory saying, is Cardi gonna take accountability? Right. So she then drops in her broadcast ig basically a paragraph saying, no sympathy. Shit, cuz I live and learn. I've been through worse in life. But I went through so much shit and deceit and I don't tell my story and put these nasty on blast because I've seen God handle every woman and the men that put tears in my eyes and pain in my heart in the worst way. When a white Rory talking about I need to be held accountable for he don't know one thing about it really makes me see red. This is not a competition. This is me taking baby steps to finally feeling happy. Seeing my sky blue with birds and trees again. Damn the dick good. Seeing my sky blue with birds and trees again of rainy instead of rainy days. I feel lightweight, motivated. In love with life, in love with love, in love with my career and most importantly, in love with my three kids no matter what. Shut the up you white before I light a match up your ass.

[Maul]

That's so, like, poetic.

[Rory Farrell]

All right, so I feel like my ass needs to be in the rafters at this point because Nikki put a broomstick up there and now Cardi B is putting a match.

[Maul]

Card is gonna like the, you know, the. The end of the broom that's hanging out your ass. Cardi's gonna like that.

[Rory Farrell]

All right, let's. Let's find the positives here. Can we be happy that I'll take the credit? You know what? Fuck it. I'm tired of being humble. I will take the credit in finding the one thing Cardi B and Nicki Minaj can agree on. And it's that I'm a white that deserves something in his ass.

[Maul]

Okay.

[Rory Farrell]

I ended the Nikki and Cardi beef based off their mutual hate. Hate for me. In agreement that I should not be speaking about anything cultural.

[Maul]

Right.

[Rory Farrell]

So, yeah. I take pride in that.

[Maul]

Okay.

[Rory Farrell]

I think that's like something that I contributed to the culture. I brought Cardi and Nikki together. If you guys can never agree on anything else. They both over here. At least we can find this place.

[Daylight]

Yeah, I never.

[Rory Farrell]

We come together here. We know.

[Maul]

Yes.

[Rory Farrell]

That we dislike this.

[Maul]

Share the same. Yes.

[Daylight]

And you deserve to be sodomized. Yeah. I. I haven't seen bars is hilarious. I've seen Barbs and Bardi Gang agree on anything ever in life. And they were. You had.

[Rory Farrell]

It takes a special type of complexion.

[Daylight]

To do that on your ass. I was like. I mean, in your ass. Apparently. It was absolutely insane.

[Rory Farrell]

Well, what's funny is I'm still trying to get like some free data in my phone from the Swifties. What I also found funny is that the Swifties and what's. What's Cardi's body gang. Bardi Gang. And the Swifties also agree with something. That I'm a white. Yeah.

[Maul]

Yes.

[Rory Farrell]

Yo, the Swifties are more racist than party gang. I got called more racial things by the Swifties than anyone in bar.

[Daylight]

Because they want to call you, but they can't.

[Maul]

Yeah, exactly. So they call you white instead.

[Rory Farrell]

And you know, it's a white person behind you.

[Maul]

100.

[Daylight]

Exactly.

[Maul]

Self hate. Love it.

[Rory Farrell]

It's definitely selfie.

[Maul]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Daylight]

But I got. I got them up off your ass. I stood up for you.

[Rory Farrell]

Yes, Cardi did apologize. She said, oh, sorry, Rory, but it's. I understand. She. We all see clips and take things out of context, and then she saw the real clip and, you know, Smoke went to mall. But I'm here to disappoint, like, all of the Internet streets with, like, maturity. I know. This was, like a green light. I even saw the comments. For the first time ever, people are on my side like, damn, that was up. He didn't even say anything. Finally, this could be my moment to be like all the other media personalities and scream at the top of my lungs. And I'd be right, right? Women.

[Maul]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Rory Farrell]

Women.

[Maul]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Rory Farrell]

I could be that guy. I could threaten her, all that. But I did not go that route. Cardi B. And I spoke.

[Maul]

Okay.

[Rory Farrell]

For the whole afternoon. I won't reveal the entire conversation. It's a private conversation. But we had a great talk.

[Maul]

Good.

[Rory Farrell]

And I think that can also happen in media. We don't all need to just scream at the camera because we get one little green light from one miscommunication. Now it's like, well, you can't dictate how someone replies, right? I can. Yeah. I can reach out. And I don't think it compromise anything. If Cardi B puts out a bad song that I don't like, I'll say I don't like it. Is that a great song?

[Daylight]

It's never happened, though.

[Rory Farrell]

That's. I mean, I agree, but I'm saying nothing was compromised because we had a great conversation and spoke.

[Maul]

Yeah. I thought that was.

[Rory Farrell]

If there's gonna be. If she puts out a great song, I say it's great. Bad song. Say it's bad. But I also think there's a world where people, especially if we are talking about Cardi B's personal life, has every right to have an opinion about how I speak about that. I'm talking about her life. So having a private convo with her that was calm and super positive and came to an understanding. That's fine, too.

[Maul]

Yeah.

[Rory Farrell]

We don't need to take these moments to just scream at the top of our lungs for clicks for one day, and then it's going to move on to the next person that's screaming at a woman.

[Maul]

Yeah, it's.

[Rory Farrell]

I just don't see anything in it. And I know all the Internet comments are going to be like, oh, it's compromised now. Trying to be cool, Cardi. Like, that's so corny. I just think it was a cool human moment. She's going through something. We spoke about it. I talked to her about it. Found understanding will still always be objective. But it doesn't have to be a green light to start screaming at Cardi B now, because she said white. And I also believe in double standards for everyone in that comments. What if Rory said black? I'd say, get Rory the. Out the paint. I'm a big advocate of double standards. Double standards exist. No, Cardi B. Calling me a white bitch is not the equivalent of Rory calling Cardi a black bitch.

[Maul]

Right.

[Rory Farrell]

I don't know where the fuck y' all are getting that from.

[Maul]

Yeah, no, it's definitely not.

[Rory Farrell]

But how would y' all feel? They would feel upset. As they should.

[Maul]

Yeah. I thought it was classy that she did say. She did apologize. Yeah, that was classy. But I do want to know if you were still a white bitch, though.

[Rory Farrell]

No, I was actually, like, hoping, like, during our conversation on Saturday afternoon that, like, at the end she was going to double down. Like, but you still, like, are a white.

[Maul]

She didn't double down.

[Rory Farrell]

No.

[Maul]

Damn.

[Rory Farrell]

But shout out to Cardi. We had a great conversation. Maybe one day we can have her on the show.

[Maul]

Maybe one day. I would love to talk to Cardi. Big Bronx.

[Rory Farrell]

But that would be. She would come to see Damaris. Like, even though we had a good conversation, I'm well aware that. That my Cardi relationship is. I'm the plus one. Like, that's her homegirl. Yeah. Like, I'm just Damaris's friend.

[Maul]

Yeah.

[Rory Farrell]

I don't even think she said my name.

[Daylight]

That's why everybody was mad.

[Rory Farrell]

You Demaris, homie.

[Maul]

Right?

[Rory Farrell]

I'm like, Cardi, I've been on a podcast with you before in, like, 2015.

[Maul]

Yeah.

[Rory Farrell]

I think. I think Tax and Us was the first time he was ever on a podcast.

[Maul]

Yeah. Shout out to Cardio man.

[Rory Farrell]

Yeah. No, it was a great, mature. One of the more mature combos I've had in my podcasting career, because we've talked about it plenty. Of artists have reached out and like, awkward moments. Despite that, the energy there was not that it was very much progressive, like, oh, yes, saw the wrong clip. But on my side too. I was like, we was talking about your life. Like you allowed to feel away. And especially my dumb ass white face.

[Maul]

I get it now. The marriage jumped in it.

[Rory Farrell]

This is the real shit.

[Maul]

This is. Yeah, yeah. This is where we scream Cardi. Cardi. We love Cardi. Now, here's where Damaris comes in at. And I, and I quote, you've never.

[Rory Farrell]

Said that in your life.

[Maul]

And I'm just saying, and I quote. Oh, I feel bad because Rory was just joking to segue the topic. He wasn't being negative. Maul deserves this smoke. He was the one arguing with us. Now, what did I say that was negative or could be deemed negative about.

[Rory Farrell]

Cardi before we get there? Because of course we want to give the floor to Damaris to reply with this thought. Oh, I feel bad because Rory was just joking to segue the topic. He wasn't being negative, period. That's all the tweet needed to be. It could have ended right there.

[Maul]

But we're going to give the defendant.

[Rory Farrell]

I just want to show that the second sentence. Yeah, you still get the Cardi B apology. You still get the context.

[Maul]

You still lighten a great thought.

[Rory Farrell]

She still protects a friend, right? And a co worker, right, From Bardi gang. But it seemed a second sentence needed to be said as if the clip was not right below.

[Maul]

Right.

[Rory Farrell]

The floor is yours, senator.

[Daylight]

How is the floor mine?

[Maul]

What? What? How you gonna say mall deserves this?

[Daylight]

First of all, I also want to let it be known that I was not the first person to say that. If you go to the response.

[Maul]

But you was the one that said.

[Daylight]

Everybody, every single person responded and said, wait, Maul is the one going off. Everybody said that.

[Maul]

How did I. All right, so remind me, because y know, I sit here and we talk about and kick it sometimes.

[Daylight]

Well, in comparison to Rory, you were the one saying Cardi's going to look stupid when this man basically cheats on her and embarrasses her. This isn't the she should pop out with. Yada yada. That's what you were saying.

[Maul]

That's talking about Cardi.

[Daylight]

No, it's not about talking. But you and her. You talking about her business when you don't exactly know what you talking about, which was what she was saying in that paragraph. But to Rory, that's why I'm like, okay, but Rory isn't the one that said that Maul is the one that.

[Maul]

Rory said that Cardi needs to take accountability.

[Daylight]

Yes, but he. But he said that question. Segue. He just said, that's a segue. And then he was like, nothing.

[Rory Farrell]

I said she.

[Maul]

But y' all saying I deserve to sm. Like, I didn't say nothing negative about Cardi. I was just saying, like, yo, you know, Stefon Diggs has a. He has a reputation. He's a. He's a playboy.

[Daylight]

Okay, but you also said that she's going to look stupid. You listen, even if you truly believe that, you're right. Even if you are right, a person who you're sitting up there talking about their love life, their personal life, which is very personal, they have every right to respond to the way that you frame them. Looking stupid with dating who they're dating. When you're not in their bedroom, you're not in their phone, you don't know what's going on.

[Maul]

Okay, now let me say this. When you pop out and make the statement that they did that they're dating or they're together, right now I have a podcast. I have a platform. It's directly my job to speak about that.

[Daylight]

I agree.

[Maul]

You made it a point to step out and make a statement. That was a statement. Going to a Nick playoff game, sitting courtside, two high profile people. That's a statement. We're together. So now I sat and I talked about it. All I was trying to say. Now I'm not saying. Maybe the words shouldn't have been, Cardi's gonna look stupid. I want to say that I love Cardi. I don't want to say she's gonna look stupid, but meaning, like, okay, now if it pops up that Stephon is on a date with somebody else next week or caught creeping out of a hotel, another girl next week, you think people are not gonna flood Cardi's mentions and say, yo, like, ain't this your man? Is this your. The dude you was just dating? Is this.

[Daylight]

Of course. But I can't be mad at you.

[Maul]

That's all I'm speaking.

[Daylight]

I can't be mad at somebody. It is our job to have certain conversations about certain things, even things that we don't exactly care about. Right. But people have every right to respond. And I try to be more thoughtful of people.

[Maul]

Oh, yeah, people can respond. Like, it's never personal with me. Y' all know me. I don't know any of these people. Well, some of them I don't know personally. I don't know Cardi personally. I love and support Cardi. Cause she's from my city, she's from my town. So anything that she's doing, I'm supporting. But I don't know anybody personally most of the times when I'm talking about them. So it shouldn't be taken personal. Like, I'm not attacking anybody's personal. You know, things just saying, like, yo, you stepping out with a dude and you making this statement, this big statement, you know, coming off a divorce and this is the first guy that we see you with. You know, it's like, yo, I don't know. You know, homie, you know, Stephan is outside. He. He outside. Stephan Diggs is outside. That's not a secret. Like, he's moving around the city. He's shaking and baking. I don't know if this is the guy that maybe she should be seen with fresh off a divorce. That's all I'm saying. Like, I'm not saying we were saying.

[Rory Farrell]

Is we think that's the exact guy.

[Daylight]

Long story short, I ain't apologizing them all, man. You said. What the fuck you said. It's on tape.

[Maul]

Nah, you ratted.

[Daylight]

Nah, it's on tape. You ratted.

[Maul]

You ratted.

[Daylight]

Lost fear in love.

[Maul]

Rory got caught.

[Daylight]

Favorite rappers love the Internet, and our favorite rappers.

[Rory Farrell]

It was on cctv, though. We got like, the footage is right there.

[Maul]

All right, cool. Rory got caught. Damaris told them where I was hiding at.

[Daylight]

That's fine.

[Maul]

That's ratting. And you right. Ratting is fine. Because get celebrated for being rats these days. So you absolutely right. Ratting is fine. You get. You snitch now. You get a podcast, you get a deal from all kinds of sponsors. You get everything. Now when you snitch, I mean, I don't.

[Rory Farrell]

It's kind of like. It's like the gun. And I feel like what Damaris did, I mean, I understood the rat emoji that you would put up, but, like, she didn't go full like, Sammy the Bull, six, nine.

[Maul]

Did she drop my name?

[Rory Farrell]

It was.

[Maul]

It was dropped my name.

[Rory Farrell]

It was the.

[Maul]

Did she drop my name on the stand?

[Rory Farrell]

Yeah, she said names, but it was the plea. Like, it wasn't going to be used in the case. They had their evidence. She said it was a Gunner situation.

[Maul]

She said, mall deserves this smoke.

[Rory Farrell]

YSL is a gang. Same thing.

[Maul]

No, it's not.

[Rory Farrell]

But it didn't affect the case.

[Maul]

She specifically named Maul. She didn't say, rory's not the one that deserves to smoke. Somebody else might deserve this.

[Daylight]

Oh, Nigga. We know who somebody else is.

[Maul]

We know who Maul is, too. And that's exactly what you said. Mall deserves this smoke. That is rat 101. She bit the cheese. She took the cheese. Listen, she got her Pepsi, she got her chips, and she went in that interrogation room and she gave him everything.

[Rory Farrell]

It was like when 6ix9ine was on the stand. Like, you know, cardi Bs of blood too. Like, sir, she has nothing to do with this case.

[Maul]

Nothing to do with this. Nothing to do with what he did.

[Rory Farrell]

We don't need to know.

[Maul]

Everyone else had nothing to do with what Cardi was talking about.

[Rory Farrell]

No, you were shoddy in the case. What are you talking about?

[Maul]

You was the main person. She pointed out something you said. You said she needs to take accountability. Cardi and her statement said. Talking about I need to be accountable. She's talking to something you said. Okay, Something Ma said and. Or something you said and she said. I said it. No, I didn't say anything that Cardi felt was disrespectful.

[Rory Farrell]

Objectively, Maul is actually correct because Cardi did see the wrong clip. Not the one that too cool to blog posted. She saw the one of you talking and then it ended with me saying, does Cardi needs to take accountability. I don't even think Mall's in that clip, period. So I don't even know if Cardi goes. I don't know if Cardi goes to look at the other clip until Damaris puts that up because she replied directly to Damaris tweet. So I don't know. Maul may have a case right now in homie court that may be ratting because it was a new clip.

[Maul]

She put the paperwork. She put my name.

[Rory Farrell]

A name is my name.

[Maul]

Yeah, Ma deserves this smoke.

[Daylight]

See, I don't like this selective homie court.

[Maul]

How was the selective?

[Daylight]

Because I ain't bring you to homie court for shit that you did. I let you rock. I let you get away scot free me. You.

[Maul]

What did I do?

[Daylight]

I ain't bring you to homie court. You came out here and started ratting on yourself and telling and apologizing and putting up statements. I never took you to homie court for what you deserve to go to homie court for what are you.

[Maul]

All right, so take me to homie Cor now. What are you talking about?

[Daylight]

No, it's cool.

[Maul]

No, it ain't cool. No, no, no, no. So you can't bring. You can't bring that up. You can't bring that Up. You can't bring that up.

[Daylight]

Already brought up a.

[Maul]

If you go bring something up and say I need to be a homie court. Say what? I need to be a homie.

[Daylight]

Everybody know what you went to, what you should have went to homie court for. But we already had a conversation. You went and doubled back and laughed again.

[Maul]

All I did was laugh again. I can't laugh. I laughed. A nigga laughed. And I gotta go to homie court for laughing?

[Daylight]

No, I didn't bring you to homie court. I let it go. Why you.

[Maul]

No. You saying I deserve to be in homie court though, for laughing?

[Daylight]

It was a charge. No, fuck, it was a charge.

[Maul]

We can't laugh.

[Daylight]

You can laugh about whatever you want.

[Maul]

Okay, so now you can go outside of court. You said I deserve. Here's the difference. Here's the difference. Here's the difference. You said I deserve to go to homie court because I laughed, right? All I did was laugh an emoji. You put my name and said, he deserves smoke, meaning not only did you put my name in the paperwork, but you was like, get this him. That's what that was. You like, yo, nah, get him. He the one that deserve it. Yeah, like, what was that about?

[Daylight]

Even me laughing.

[Maul]

And you said, maul deserves the smoke is not the even. That's not even at all. There's no. There's no even with that.

[Daylight]

So he bought you an actual hammer.

[Rory Farrell]

I asked Josh for the judge mallet and he brought me this. Yeah, It's a lot going on right now.

[Maul]

Yeah.

[Rory Farrell]

Okay. I think mall there's a lot of strong points right now, but it did trigger something that has not been settled yet. With the fake apologies that happened on this podcast months ago, I think we should finally clear the air, same way I did with Lex 10 years later and have that homie court of what your LOL's.

[Maul]

Okay, so I can't laugh.

[Daylight]

You are free to do whatever.

[Maul]

No, no, no.

[Rory Farrell]

But you feel this is gonna be a repeat of the other one.

[Maul]

See? See? I can' Obviously you felt the way about laughing emojis. And cool. You entitled to feel the way about laughing emojis. But we not gonna say this is the same though. We not gonna say this is the same. Mall deserves this smoke and me just laughing is not the same.

[Rory Farrell]

Okay?

[Maul]

No way.

[Rory Farrell]

What do you think the difference is?

[Maul]

A laughing emoji was all I put. I just laughed.

[Daylight]

No, it ain't even about the original laughing emojis. It's about the fact that you went Back and doubled back a week later and laughed again.

[Maul]

No, it was a whole different post.

[Daylight]

Yeah, I know, but it was a week later, a week after that post was posted.

[Maul]

But it was a funny post.

[Daylight]

Again, you wasn't still. You wasn't laughing for a week straight.

[Maul]

Yeah, I was laughing. That was funny. That was funny.

[Rory Farrell]

See?

[Maul]

What? Somebody was just pointing out the hypocrisy, and I just laughed at it.

[Daylight]

You knew it wasn't hypocrisy, and he knew it wasn't. That's. And that's my thing with Ma. That was my only issue with Ma is Ma knew that it wasn't hypocrisy because Ma was there for the conversation that we had, and he still went back.

[Maul]

It was a funny post. I just laughed.

[Daylight]

Ma, let's be real. You didn't even laugh at the second one because you hadn't even seen it when we.

[Maul]

I only can laugh at what I see.

[Daylight]

When we talked about the apology and Peach took it and clipped it up and made it seem like I was arguing. Like, almost like I was arguing with my boyfriend, and Peach made, like, a post for me to post about it, I posted it like, oh, this is what happens when you point of view. You already went through his phone, but he lying to you. You laughed at that. And then immediately after you laughed under my page, you went and commented on that.

[Maul]

Commented on what?

[Daylight]

On your man's post. You commented on my post on my little meme that. That Peach made me. And then immediately after, you went and commented on Drake's thing.

[Maul]

I'm only commenting on what I see, though. I can't comment on things I don't see. Like, if I'm on my timeline and.

[Daylight]

I'm saying you thought I was being shady when I posted that reel. That's why you was being shady. I wasn't being shady.

[Maul]

Objection. He was being shaped.

[Daylight]

Peaches right here. Peach is right here.

[Rory Farrell]

Stop leading the witness.

[Daylight]

Peach Asset out of that apology. Peach created that asset. I didn't create the asset. Peach sent that to me, and I said, it looked like I'm arguing with my boyfriend. I then posted it and said, this is what happened. Like, he trying to. He trying to explain himself. But you already went through that phone. You're barely.

[Maul]

No, you said something about when you know he lying.

[Daylight]

That was the. That was underneath. That was the caption underneath. But on the actual post, I literally said, when you arguing with your boyfriend. But you already went through that phone. It had nothing to do with you. I wasn't being funny towards you. But when Peach clipped it up. I'm in the post that was. But it's only your voice. Your face is not in it.

[Maul]

But I'm in it. My. My likeness is in it.

[Daylight]

You felt away and felt like I was trying to be funny.

[Maul]

My likeness wasn't in this.

[Daylight]

This here five minutes.

[Maul]

I had nothing to do with this.

[Daylight]

Immediately. Five minutes after you went and commented on Drake's post to be funny, you were not laughing in the moment you went to be funny.

[Maul]

I was laughing.

[Daylight]

All I did was admit that you were being funny.

[Maul]

I was laughing. It was funny to me. I laughed. Still, I'm trying to figure out, how does laughing and a laughing emoji equate to being the same with There ain't.

[Daylight]

No loyalty on the left, ain't no loyalty on the right.

[Maul]

I can't laugh or laugh. We talking about laughing.

[Daylight]

Listen, all is fair and loving. Our favorite rappers.

[Maul]

Nah, man. Nah. This is rat. This is rat. I don't care what nobody mall deserves this smoke. That is rat. And that is biting the cheese. That is asking for Pepsi and Doritos. That is ratting.

[Rory Farrell]

She's a civilian.

[Daylight]

And when I said that, I didn't think you was going to go to jail. You ain't in jail.

[Rory Farrell]

You. I have not seen any 1090 Jake paper.

[Maul]

Maul deserves this smoke.

[Daylight]

I had to distract for. I had to get my homeboy free. I'm YSL Woody. I had to get my homeboy.

[Maul]

Oh, my God. She just said she's Y herself.

[Daylight]

I threw the case. I had to get my homeboy free.

[Rory Farrell]

That means I'm young thug.

[Maul]

Yo, what is that? Yo, that is crazy. Thanks, yo. That is crazy. I got ratted on and they tried to tell me I did not get rat.

[Daylight]

I throw the case. I threw the case. Pointed suspicion elsewhere. I knew you weren't gonna get bought up on charges as you have it. So I did what I had to do for the podcast. And we might actually.

[Maul]

I was never in it.

[Daylight]

We might actually get Rory's needs to.

[Maul]

Shut his white ass up. She didn't say anything about Maul. Maul's name is in no way in Cardi's paperwork at all. Only time Maul's name is mentioned in any paperwork is when Damaris submits, gets her statement. It says I'm free and we're getting.

[Daylight]

The first Cardi B interview when she.

[Maul]

I don't know if I'm free. I gotta go to the Bronx tonight. Them brims might catch me outside, like in the Night. Like, I don't know if I'm free. Why she keeps saying I'm free? I gotta go to Fordham tonight. Like, I might not be free.

[Rory Farrell]

Listen, man, Ace had to set up Rico. It was for the best. It was for the betterment of all.

[Maul]

Us, the rat cast. I'm out of here, dog. I'm out of here. Everybody cool with biting the cheese up here, man?

[Daylight]

Like, we got another job?

[Maul]

Nah, man. Fuck that, man. Y' all tripping, man.

[Rory Farrell]

So you don't see any equivalent in those two things?

[Maul]

Me laughing emoji? No, no.

[Rory Farrell]

Is that dry snitching?

[Maul]

Look, the same thing she did after mentioning my name. See that? That's the same thing I put over. Over Shorty's post when she posted her about the marriage. Those same. That same emoji.

[Rory Farrell]

But you knew. See, you could have taken the Damaris route with that girl because you guys are all ovo. That's team. She's team Cardi. So Cardi listened to her and realized she was wrong. You could have talked to your sis. I don't know her name. What's her name? We don't need to get. All right, talk to your sis in the OVO group chat and be like, hey, you have this wrong. Damaris was taken out of context here. Like, you could have taken this route and been like, hey, hey, your smoke. Your smoke is for DJ Head. It's not for Damaris.

[Maul]

Regardless if she was right or wrong, I just laughed at just the whole.

[Rory Farrell]

The clip.

[Maul]

I was just laughing at it. I didn't feel like she disrespected Damaris in that.

[Rory Farrell]

Oh, I don't even, like, remember.

[Maul]

Yeah, no, she didn't disrespect.

[Rory Farrell]

I'm just stirring shit up for the fuck.

[Maul]

She was just trying to point out hypocrisy, but she didn't. She didn't call. Now, she would have been on there trying to kick the marriage like this whack bitch. She didn't do none of that. She didn't curse. She didn't call Demaris out her name.

[Daylight]

I think I was told that I only come out here and say. I say whatever y' all tell me for a check. Whatever y' all tell me to say, I say for a check. That's what I was told.

[Maul]

Did she say that in that clip?

[Daylight]

Not in that one. In another one.

[Maul]

Oh, I see. I don't. I'm talking about that clip.

[Daylight]

No, she went on for days and days and days.

[Maul]

Oh, I don't see most of that shit. I don't even see that one. That I laughed at.

[Daylight]

But that's why you should stand with your peoples, because you don't even really be knowing what's going on.

[Maul]

The clip I keep going back to. I laughed at that clip. Whatever my emoji is on, I'm laughing at that. That's it. My name is in paperwork right there. Maul deserves this smoke. How is that the same? I count.

[Rory Farrell]

The government should have redacted your name. I'm sorry.

[Maul]

I asked for the defendant to be thrown in the D. Marcus cell.

[Rory Farrell]

And no, she has immunity. She snitched. She's with us.

[Daylight]

Yeah. You talking about good luck?

[Rory Farrell]

What. What would your witness protection name be?

[Daylight]

I don't know. Something like Ashley or Brenda. Oh, Victoria.

[Rory Farrell]

Oh, it's funny she brought up Ashley because that's why she should be in Homie Corp. We'll save that for Patreon.

[Daylight]

Nah, Talk about it.

[Maul]

Get your off.

[Rory Farrell]

Yeah, you think. You think you defending me here? That you got free range to do whatever? No.

[Maul]

Yeah. Take the gavel.

[Daylight]

Take the g. Damn. Whole cast mad at me.

[Maul]

Yo. This the rat cast. We'll be back. We gonna pay some bills, get a word from our.

[Rory Farrell]

This.

[Maul]

We'll talk to y' all in a second. The rat cast is crazy. Jesus Christ.

[Rory Farrell]

All right, well, to make sure this is real, I will reach out to Wack 110 90J. They'll get the full, proper research of Damaris to make sure.

[Maul]

We just saw the paperwork we got.

[Rory Farrell]

We have to triple check, man.

[Maul]

Nah. No, we don't. That's the problem. Y like to triple check paperwork. Like, you know, I know Photoshop. That's a certain. That's a. That's a. What they call it with the blue check on Twitter.

[Rory Farrell]

Verified.

[Maul]

That's a verified account. Verified, rat. Look at that. That's not verified.

[Daylight]

Listen, how's this. Okay, you know what? All right, As a woman, I'll take accountability. I could have handled that differently.

[Maul]

That's all Rory was trying to tell Cardi. Look at how we get back.

[Rory Farrell]

See, now you get me in trouble with Cardi again. I didn't tell her how to handle anything.

[Daylight]

It's really him. He really. It's really him. He really the problem.

[Maul]

I've been telling y' all, I think Cardi needs to be held, man.

[Rory Farrell]

Check his chest. Wearing some.

[Maul]

He got.

[Daylight]

Check his sneakers.

[Maul]

Ain't that what you just said? Cardi needs to be held. Take accountability.

[Rory Farrell]

No, I asked Damaris, does Cardi need accountability? And she said, do you think that. And I said no.

[Maul]

Oh, you say she don't need accountability?

[Rory Farrell]

No.

[Maul]

Okay. You do anything wrong? Well, what did you say, Damaris?

[Daylight]

As I. I apologize. I mean mine, though. I'm not just saying it. I mean, my apology. I apologize. I did not have to throw you to the wolves. I just. Just thought that that was a tactic to get, you know, my boy free. But I could have handled that better. I could have left your name out of the paperwork. So I apologize. Sincerely. That's how Unapology is handled.

[Maul]

The first time the Knicks go to the playoffs in 26 years, and the woman just took accountability for the first time.

[Rory Farrell]

No. What's the. All right. May 19, 2025, 3:36pm Cardi B. Apologized to me. And Damaris apologized to you. You two women back to back.

[Maul]

Wow.

[Rory Farrell]

I'm. I'm a little, like, misty in my eyes right now.

[Maul]

Cardi for president now.

[Rory Farrell]

Do you have anything to say?

[Maul]

Yeah, that's all I wanted from the front.

[Rory Farrell]

Hey, Damaris, maybe I could have just laughed by myself in the living room and not posted it to co sign the war that was going on between you and that person to add fuel to the fire.

[Maul]

Hey, Damaris, maybe I shouldn't have laughed out loud. I should have laughed in the living room and not added fuel to the fire again.

[Daylight]

We'll try it again when you mean it.

[Maul]

I do mean it. Six months time, man.

[Daylight]

We'll try it again six months from now.

[Maul]

Y' all don't take my apology.

[Rory Farrell]

Baby steps.

[Maul]

Y' all don't take my apology seriously on here, man. On the rat cast, man. This is crazy, man.

[Daylight]

Actually, hold on. Can somebody hear me together? Actually, I. I'll come get it or.

[Maul]

Bring it to get off.

[Daylight]

Yeah, I got. Actually got somebody else to bring the homie core. In fact, since we're hashing out things on this hash brown.

[Maul]

God damn it, I love me a hash brown.

[Rory Farrell]

And while she gets that together, in the meantime, if somebody snitches and no one goes to jail.

[Maul]

Nah, nah, we not see.

[Rory Farrell]

Because nobody attacked you.

[Maul]

Rats always try to find a loophole.

[Rory Farrell]

Cause yeah, she did. But they didn't attack you. Like you didn't get the sentence for her Rattan. This was the first time in Stan culture that I even saw this, which takes a special type of complexion. Even after Cardi apologized, the comments under. From her own stands that listened to every last word she said for the first time said, nah, it's still that white.

[Daylight]

Yeah, they said not, fuck them. Don't apologize.

[Rory Farrell]

They didn't even they didn't even listen to their leader.

[Maul]

Yeah. Nah, fuck that.

[Rory Farrell]

They read and saw the clip of Molly's like, nah, more cool. That white bitch.

[Maul]

The white bitch reparations. Rory.

[Rory Farrell]

Yeah, listen, I agree.

[Daylight]

Damaris now in session. The people versus Rory Farrell.

[Rory Farrell]

Yes.

[Maul]

Get his white ass, Damaris, please.

[Daylight]

Because the only reason why I had to sit and endure Mall's fake ass apology is because you went and had a conversation with him that I was upset.

[Maul]

Well, he's supposed to.

[Rory Farrell]

So.

[Daylight]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no. But this is. This is that. Let's listen to this. I have been dealing with people calling me all types of sensitive asses because Rory went and stuck up for me. Because that's how he felt. He felt I should be stuck up for. I didn't go to Rory and crying and screaming and all. Rory came to me and he felt that I should be stuck up for. So I'm over here getting an apology. Like I was crying because I. Cause I need an apology. When I said I'm not getting no apology for Maul cause Mal A. But what it made it seem like to me, I mean, to everybody else and to the public, is that I was crying for an apology from all.

[Rory Farrell]

So I'm on trial for the court of public opinion.

[Daylight]

Yes.

[Rory Farrell]

Yeah, I ain't got shit to do with that.

[Daylight]

Because during that apology, you should have said Damaris wasn't crying for an apology. I feel like you owe the Maris an apology. Motherfuckers over here. Like Damaris is really mad at Maul about.

[Rory Farrell]

I didn't think I needed to say on the mic that Maris was not crying for an apology because you weren't. So I didn't think that needed to even be said.

[Daylight]

That was that. This is what the court of public opinion.

[Rory Farrell]

I'm not that. So, Raven. I didn't envision what the comments were going to be the next day. I thought there was some internal tension and I wanted everyone to piece up. I feel like the air is already clear. That's all it was. I didn't predict what the comments would be that Damaris came crying for an apology because that wasn't the case. Sometimes I like, deal too much in truth and don't realize what the Internet's going to view it as.

[Daylight]

Yeah.

[Rory Farrell]

I'm like, well, this is what happens. So that's how the world's gonna see it.

[Maul]

It's like, no, it never happens that way. Never happens that way.

[Daylight]

Actually, Peach homie Josh, well, he.

[Rory Farrell]

I mean, it's really peace.

[Daylight]

No, no, no, no, no, no. Because when I sat here and was sitting through that apology, nobody sat there and said, maul you was wrong. Everybody was quiet. Oh, Josh standing up. Josh said. He said.

[Rory Farrell]

And I mentioned. See, don't even put. Put him on, homie Court. Because I did tell you that Josh was in your corner.

[Joey Badass]

Her.

[Rory Farrell]

I said that.

[Maul]

Y' all realized that all I did was laugh. Like, laugh. That's all I practiced. I didn't say nothing. I didn't say get her. I didn't say kill her. I didn't say any of these things. I just laughed.

[Rory Farrell]

So you don't mean the apology?

[Maul]

I told the marriage that. I told the marriage that if she felt the way about that, I apologize for that, because that wasn't my intention. I wasn't trying to make the marriage feel away. But I also. The girl wasn't, like, crazy disrespectful towards Damaris.

[Daylight]

She was also just wrong.

[Maul]

Even if she. But I just laughed or whether she's right or wrong, I just laughed. That's all I did.

[Daylight]

But that's what. Where's the joke?

[Maul]

The joke was just in her cutting the video up. Like, literally, you in the middle of your video, and she be like, nah, hold up. Go over there with wap, wap, wap. It was just funny. I just laughed at that. Now, if she would have been on there coming at you, like, disrespecting you, and I laughed then I can understand you feeling because now that somebody just. Just straight up disrespecting you. But she just spliced the video that you posted and then took it back to some things you said months ago and then tried to just point out hypocrisy. I just thought it was funny that she did that. Now, again, if she would have been on there kicking your back in on a personal level, and I laughed then 100 you. Yo, Ma, that's fucked up. But if I'm just laughing at somebody comparing what you. What you're doing today versus what you said a year ago, I'm just laughing at it. Like, that wasn't. I didn't see the big crime in that. So I did out. And I wasn't.

[Daylight]

The second one. The second one you went and laughed at, which was also a clip taken out of context because I was the first person on this episode, on this podcast to say that I liked sexy songs for you. I said that. They just clipped that out of the clip. You went and laughed at that, too. That wasn't even funny.

[Maul]

Damaris, you spent a year and A half laughing at any video calling me Dick Rider. This that third dot bot the da.

[Rory Farrell]

Stop.

[Daylight]

Two of two.

[Maul]

What I said. What I said. What I sat here and did.

[Daylight]

I would never.

[Maul]

I took it all.

[Daylight]

I would never.

[Maul]

I accepted it all from the mountaintops.

[Daylight]

Of victory, like I said.

[Rory Farrell]

Is that a fact? Because I didn't see that.

[Daylight]

No.

[Rory Farrell]

But I never saw Daenerys laughing at anyone calling you a Dick Riders.

[Maul]

Can't wait to laugh. Everybody was laughing at that. Well, we laugh. I didn't give a.

[Rory Farrell]

It's not like in here if we laugh with each other.

[Daylight]

With each other is comp. I would never laugh at you.

[Maul]

You on the episode, you laughed.

[Daylight]

I would never laugh at you on the Internet for to laugh on the episode.

[Maul]

On the episode.

[Rory Farrell]

Only laugh at each other. What she's trying to say. If there was a post that yo, mall whatever.

[Daylight]

Like the miss was turning you into sexy red. I wasn't sitting up there. They was super imposing your head on sexy red, bro. I wasn't sitting up there commenting underneath that, giggling and laughing and like that. I would never do anything like that because I'm never going to give somebody ammunition to be like yo, even. Even as co host. Okay, but weird.

[Maul]

But that's my point. But that's. But that's. But that's my point. That would be them trying to disrespect me. Shorty wasn't trying to disrespect you, okay? In her post, she didn't say anything disrespectful at all. She didn't call you out your name.

[Daylight]

You don't think that the biggest rapper in the world reposting that is grounds for that, especially back to back. You don't think that at all. You don't think that.

[Rory Farrell]

Which. Which greenlit a bunch of people to say extremely.

[Daylight]

To this day, anytime I upload anything, I am harassed by Drake fans. Do I care? But you know that that opens up the floodgates for a whole bunch of things. There are also a whole bunch of people, my colleagues in this business underneath your post. Like, oh, damn. Even her boss laughing at her.

[Maul]

I'm laughing at the post. I wasn't laughing at you, Ma.

[Daylight]

Your intention is not always the point.

[Maul]

Yeah, but I need you.

[Daylight]

But that's my.

[Maul]

But that's what I'm trying to tell you though. That's what I'm trying to tell you. If I laugh at something, I'm just laughing now. What you think I'm laughing at? Let's talk about that. I was just laughing at her trying to point out a hypocrisy and taking something you just did and posting on Tick Tock versus something said on the show almost a year ago. I was just laughing at that. I wasn't laughing at her trying to make you look stupid or if she called you out your name like, no, that would be something. That's like, damn, that's fucked up. But she didn't disrespect you.

[Daylight]

But you didn't laugh under her post. You laughed under sensitive Sally. No, you laugh under sensitive Sally's repost. And you know that he was not reposting. You knew why he was.

[Maul]

No, that was on the. That I laughed on the. What was that? The plot twist page.

[Daylight]

We know who plot twist is. We all know who plot twist is.

[Maul]

I don't know. It is what it is, but that's why. That's where I saw it at.

[Daylight]

See, this is why I can't have fake court.

[Maul]

What you mean? Let's be real cool. I'm telling you where I saw the post at. I saw the post. I laughed at it. I'm not paying attention to.

[Daylight]

I don't want. I don't want to draw this out. This was. This was Rory's homie Court.

[Maul]

But somehow I'm on the stand.

[Daylight]

Well, you got up there. You got out there and started.

[Maul]

Cause I got ratted on. My name is in paperwork. I was home chilling, and I see mall deserves smoke. I'm like, whoa, I didn't even tweet nothing all weekend.

[Rory Farrell]

Should have went to Bali.

[Maul]

Yeah, like, Jesus, Louise.

[Rory Farrell]

Well, court.

[Daylight]

Court is adjourned.

[Maul]

No, it's not. Get his ass some more.

[Daylight]

Court is adjourned. Nah, because. Because he's proven his loyalty. Word up. He's proven his loyalty. That's why I got him.

[Maul]

I have. I haven't proven my loyalty.

[Daylight]

That's why I went and got.

[Maul]

Hold on, hold on. I haven't proven my loyalty.

[Daylight]

Listen, double back. Double back on a laugh. Shit. Must have been really, really funny.

[Maul]

It was funny.

[Rory Farrell]

It must really funny.

[Daylight]

Really funny.

[Maul]

Be funny sometimes.

[Daylight]

All right, so you know what was funny? Them barbs on your. I mean, them cardi gang on your ass. That. That's what's funny. I laugh, Cardig. I laugh. That's why he's laughing. Emojis. That's what the fans. Was on your ass. I laughed when. Now we laughing.

[Maul]

Cardi gang is on my ass right now.

[Daylight]

Bar gang. Yeah. For what you were saying. Hell yeah.

[Maul]

Oh, I didn't see none of it. I don't Know about.

[Rory Farrell]

Check your request dms. I'm sure they're threatening to kill your smoke.

[Maul]

I love Cardi, man. Big Bronx. I always support to. I don't want no smoke.

[Daylight]

Well, now that we've saw, somebody from.

[Rory Farrell]

Bar Gang hit my request DM and said they was going to kill Amara. And I replied, oh, you must be a fan, because you know her name. I appreciate the support.

[Daylight]

That's crazy.

[Rory Farrell]

Keep listening every week.

[Maul]

Idiot.

[Daylight]

You are stupid. Yeah, they were like Damaris. You shouldn't be wishing death on women that don't just because they disagree with you. I said, I ain't who I wish deaf on. I wish deaf on women who support abusers. Standing on it, stomping on it. Like, I don't.

[Maul]

I love that.

[Daylight]

Like, doubling down.

[Maul]

Love that.

[Daylight]

Anyway, speaking.

[Rory Farrell]

I mean, the Stan accounts are just great because they like being your DMs like they're Jason Bourne. Yeah, I know. You made this account today. Yeah, I can find an IP address.

[Maul]

Exactly.

[Rory Farrell]

Here's my address.

[Maul]

All right, well, let's get to the rat beef that's going on. I'm gonna just go ahead and say it. Joey.

[Rory Farrell]

First of all, can we take. Take three deep breaths as a pod? I actually feel like progress was made. Even it doesn't appear that progress was made. I think this was the first step in that. Okay, so clearly, I think we should. As a. A pod. Everyone in the room. Three deep breaths. Inhale through the nose. One more.

[Maul]

That's only two.

[Daylight]

You know he can't count.

[Maul]

You said three.

[Rory Farrell]

Let that one linger for a second because I was getting out all of the stuff that we were holding inside of us. The resentment.

[Maul]

Yes.

[Rory Farrell]

Everything that we never said that we wanted to say. And this third one is now going to clear the air with positivity.

[Maul]

Okay.

[Daylight]

Okay.

[Maul]

So.

[Daylight]

Maud. And breathe. I saw him.

[Maul]

She caught me.

[Rory Farrell]

He wanted to hold in the negativity.

[Maul]

Yeah, you got to keep negativity just for, like, you know, batteries. Got a positive and a negative. Right? Right.

[Daylight]

Inhale. Good. Exhale. Word up.

[Maul]

No, I got some fire in my bag. When I exhale that. That's some fire. Ain't. No, that's. That's a pack. It's a pack. Yeah.

[Rory Farrell]

Who do you think the sage would call out first in this room?

[Daylight]

Oh, you God damn people like Sage and Roy be like, oh, what is that smell? Yeah, you.

[Maul]

Yeah, it's you. You go outside, I turn into a werewolf or somebody. Like sage.

[Rory Farrell]

Yeah, like, that's my full moon.

[Maul]

It's like.

[Daylight]

It's like Done that, though. I did time and my aunt was like, oh, my God, what is that smell? I can't stand it. I'm like, oh, it's working.

[Maul]

Get out. Get the out, man.

[Rory Farrell]

One of my relationships, she had sage, and I was fine with that. Open the windows, this and that. But then she'd leave the sage like ashes throughout the whole crib, and it would just bring all the negativity back, like, can you clean the floors after you do your activities?

[Daylight]

Yo, somebody. Some. Somebody said y' all be light and sage. Oh. Oh, my God. I will never forget this tweet. Somebody said y' all be light and sage with the windows closed. And I was like, demons just in there playing space, yo. Like, yeah, please open the window so it has something to escape through.

[Rory Farrell]

N. Like the sage. And you need to leave. You're. You're the problem.

[Daylight]

Whatever. You love them spiritual.

[Rory Farrell]

Oh, of course. My. What? I love a chick that loves the moon.

[Damaris]

So we all made mistakes, right? But owning up to them, it's the right thing to do. But we all know degree Cool Rush deodorant. Well, last year they changed the formula and it did not go over well with the fan fans, the grease, whole thing, it turns up sweat and other protection when you turn up the effort. And good thing it does, because Cool Rush fans really turned up the effort to bring back the OG formula. One guy even started an online petition. And degree Listen, they admitted they effed up and are bringing back that OG Cool Rush scent back. And it's exactly how you remember it. Cool, crisp and fresh. It's back at Walmart, Target, and other stores for under $4. There's a reason why it's been the number one men's antiperspirant for the last decade.

[Maul]

Made.

[Damaris]

It's the same reason why people are not happy when the recipe was changed. So listen, if you've never tried, it might be a good time to try. See what the fuss is about. Head to your local Walmart or Target and try the OG degree Cool Rush for yourself.

[Rory Farrell]

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[Maul]

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[Rory Farrell]

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[Joey Badass]

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[Rory Farrell]

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[Maul]

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[Rory Farrell]

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[Maul]

If I can advertise on TikTok, you can too.

[Rory Farrell]

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[Daylight]

Who winning the west or. Or Joey Badass?

[Rory Farrell]

I know people are going to think.

[Maul]

All right, my bad.

[Daylight]

I'm asking you. The west or Joey Badass?

[Rory Farrell]

Same way the Knicks are the greatest dynasty in NBA history. That's over here. I'm. I'm taking my bias hat off now. Joey Badass is cleaning up the whole west coast right now by himself.

[Daylight]

Damn. Damn.

[Rory Farrell]

Does Joey Badass even need to reply?

[Daylight]

Let me snitch.

[Rory Farrell]

This is kind like I'm being truthful here. And I know we already have that stigma on us that we dislike TDE in the west coast, which is completely false if you look in the facts.

[Maul]

That's just so stupid.

[Rory Farrell]

My 10 favorite albums of last year, 4 out of the 5 were from the West Coast. 5 out of the 10 were in the West coast or TDE. So all that and biases and comments under this. Let's go with facts. Rayvon had a great response. I liked it. Joey Badass barred him the up and then Daylight, who I came on this last episode, who I think is one of the greatest battle rappers that's ever existed. He's a different type of tier. Put out a dud that I don't even know if Joey needs to reply. And I know Joey is mad at home because all he wanted to do was reply to Daylight. I'm sure he has records already recorded about Daylight even said in his Ray Vaughan reply, I'm done with you, Ray. I only want to focus on Daylight. He's on my level. I know Joey and his team are sitting in the studio right now going, I mean, do we even put these out? Do we even engage in this? Joey cleaned all of you up. Reason I loved your reply. I was one that encouraged you on air, on Twitter. Love. I love your response, but yours is also kind of to the the side of the back and forth. He deserved to be entered into the chat with that and he smoked it. But I don't consider it the back and forth. If we're going just based off everyone that's trying to jump Joey from the West Coast. You guys are losing.

[Maul]

Zing bad A.

[Rory Farrell]

You have my favorite not a Brooklyn a la A. You had my favorite feature on gnx. I even did some weird and followed you on Instagram. The day GNX came, I was like, this guy is fire. You make great music. Stick to that. I don't need to hear your battle raps. You didn't do a dentist. Daylight, one of the greatest battle rappers of all time.

[Maul]

It was cool. It's not enough.

[Rory Farrell]

It was underwhelming by Daylight standards. There was. There was definitely some cool bars in there, don't get me wrong. But nah, Daylight is Daylight. I think Daylight second verse on backpack is 10 times better than his full diss that he just put out to Joey. Joey Badass is smoking the entire west coast right now.

[Maul]

Well, don't say the entire West Coast. Talk about everybody.

[Rory Farrell]

Everyone's trying to jump him.

[Maul]

Everybody he's speaking to and about.

[Daylight]

About.

[Rory Farrell]

Yeah, you know, I'm talking about everyone.

[Maul]

That'S trying to get in the ring with him. Yeah, yeah.

[Rory Farrell]

And they, they posted the whole timeline of the amount of people that's replied. Joey is by himself and this isn't going to be on the West Coast. This is also going to be a homie court moment for our city. Thank God Joey handled this by himself because this could have got bad. Nobody is. Is with us. Joey is by himself, and I don't. He's getting jumped and holding his own while the rest of us in New York City are jumping. Just waiting on the Pacers. Yeah, we also have a fight going on over here in New York City.

[Daylight]

No, no, no, no, no. Because I love J Action Bronson, somebody. No, you don't get to go. Go to these people, party, stab three of they and then be like, yo, out of nowhere, stab three of they and they be like, yo, why ain't nobody helping me? We came here to party. You over here fighting with these niggas, and now they jumping on you. No, I'm not helping you. I'm not coming out of the. I'm not stopping talking to the bad bitches because you wanted to start a fight in a party when nobody was with you.

[Maul]

Yeah, but the thing you not talking to the mar. Joey don't need no help.

[Daylight]

He don't need no help. But you can't be mad at rappers for not doing it.

[Maul]

He ain't. Joey ain't mad. Man, listen, man, Joey is out rapping, all of y' all. It just is what it is.

[Daylight]

Oh, sure, n. But.

[Rory Farrell]

All right, I hear you. But I've had friends that I know can fight really well, and when they get in an issue, I know they don't need my help, but that's still my man's. So I'll hold your jacket. Don't ruin that jacket. I got you, bro. I'm still gonna be right there with you. You don't need my help. I will make sure that the car is ready to go, because someone's going to call the cops. There's still ways to be a present, friend, when you know your man's can hold it down. Like, oh, and also, can we show some unity Also, everybody, Jalen Brunson, talk.

[Daylight]

To somebody in the rap community talking about where Griselda. Where Stove got. No, we live in Canada, remember? We not New Yorkers.

[Maul]

I don't know. I don't. I don't know who asking for Griselda. But one thing, y' all, whoever said that y' all do not want Conway and Benny to start rapping, but they're.

[Daylight]

Saying is they're like, come help.

[Rory Farrell]

Start rapping.

[Daylight]

Yeah, come help us. Come help us. No, no, no, no, no. Y' all tell us New Yorkers all the time.

[Maul]

Listen, Joey Badass is out rapping, all y' all. Daylight, one of my favorite battle rappers, and I was anticipating hearing what he had to say and all of this and what. What he was going to come out. I was very underwhelmed, very underwhelmed by the. The. The. The. The video, the. The song he dropped.

[Rory Farrell]

I didn't even like the beat flip.

[Maul]

I don't like the. I don't like the way they chopped the sample. And it's crazy because in speaking to some rappers and some artists, you know, while all this is going on, a few of them definitely was like, yo, Daylight is not built for this. And on that stage, on that battle rap stage with no beat. Oh, yeah. But now when you gotta put a beat on and you gotta have flow and you gotta do, it's a little different.

[Rory Farrell]

But if you remember last episode when I was bigging up Daylight, I said, him and Surf are the only two battle rappers that. I also like their music like, they make. That's why I was so terrified for Joey. I feel. I don't even want to listen back to our last episode of how much I was like, I'm really terrified for Joey Badass. I think Daylight is the worst opponent you could run into because he can do both things.

[Maul]

And now I feel stupid.

[Rory Farrell]

As a huge Daylight fan, I feel dumb as a.

[Maul]

As a Daylight, as somebody that always wants to hear what Daylight has to say and, you know, appreciate his rhymes and his battles. I was very underwhelmed at this. At this attempt.

[Rory Farrell]

Okay. I mean, I know Peach is gonna clip this up and Daylit's probably gonna end up hating us, but let's still do it for the.

[Maul]

Daylit is crazy. That's why.

[Daylight]

Daylit.

[Rory Farrell]

Did I say.

[Maul]

I'm dyslexic?

[Rory Farrell]

Okay. We were having a conversation off mic because Daylight did say that this was kind of just warming up, like the first round type. I don't like in this microwave era of people's attention spans being so short, why are you wasting around, like, now? Joey doesn't even need to reply. Why didn't you get all your shit out on the first. First one? To some degree, he's saying, it's just a warmup. I don't even know if we're gonna get to the next round.

[Maul]

The game has started. This ain't the layup line. The game has started.

[Rory Farrell]

He was trying to allude in that reply like, yo, we just getting started here. This is a warmup. I'm not even going crazy.

[Maul]

Ain't no warmup, but the game is no.

[Rory Farrell]

Like, I'm not saying use all your shit, obviously, Art of War, but out the gate now Joey does not need to reply. I don't think anyone would be like, damn, Joey's scared of Daylight.

[Maul]

Joey, don't. Don't respond. Don't respond. Joey Badass does not need to respond. This is over. It was cool while it lasted. Got the Internet going, you know, rap people got in the booth. I respect it. But this is not. It's. It's. They. Y' all. Y' all can't rap with Joey Badass. Y' all can't. And. And I. Going into this, I expected this to be much more entertaining, much closer. But after listening to everything over the weekend and now hearing Daylight, you know, when he dropped. Today, he dropped it today. Right.

[Rory Farrell]

Right. An hour before we started recording.

[Maul]

It's just not.

[Rory Farrell]

If I missed a bunch of entendres. Cool. Cause we just started recording. But also that, like, I'm still of the belief that diss records and battle rap records still needs to have some level of surface. Like, yeah, it can't be certain. Needs to hit.

[Maul]

It can't be too cerebral. It has to be, yeah, more cool. Has to be more witty. It has to be more clever. It has to be, you know, those types of things. And I get it with Daylight, he's. You know, he just thinks on a different level. But it has to connect, though. Like, it has to connect. Like, don't. Don't break it down for me on a podcast and tell me bars that he said and why he said it. If I. If it don't hit when I'm listening to it and the song is on all this other shit after, it's like, I get it, but it just don't land. It didn't land. That shit is not landing. Joey went in there and he had style, he had clever shit, he had cool shit. He had. He checked all the boxes when you want to, you know, like, it's. Again, this is a friendly fade. This is just like going at some guys and testing the pen and seeing who got what, you know?

[Daylight]

Know.

[Maul]

But, I mean, it's clear after this, you know, Joey Badass is out rapping, all of y' all.

[Rory Farrell]

And I mean, to your point before, I think Daylight absolutely can rap with Joey Badass. So if he puts out another reply tomorrow and it's good, does Joey have to reply?

[Maul]

No.

[Rory Farrell]

Even if it's really good?

[Maul]

No.

[Rory Farrell]

Because I think Daylight can save this if he quickly comes back with more of a heymayc and kind of forces. Because Joey was the one saying, with Ray Von Shit, I only want to Daylight. That's who I want to battle.

[Maul]

Yeah, but we got the record, so now you don't get to get the record. People respond to it. Don't like what? Again, we responded to it. I don't know what other people feel about it. They may love it. They may think it's incredible. I'm just saying we responded to it. We don't think it's worth responding to. It's like. And you saying it was the warm up game one. Whatever. So what is it? Daylight and Six? Are we going that route? Like, come on, fam. Like, we.

[Rory Farrell]

This is. If he changes the energy by coming right back with something that absolutely hits, that forces, then at that point Joey listen. Which is what Joey wanted to smoke.

[Maul]

Listen. I'm all for people putting out dope rhymes and dope records. Cool. Whenever you want to put it out, whether you battle and whatever, I'm going to listen to it. But I don't think that Joey has to sit back and be like, okay, I'll respond to that one. Because then it's like, what are we doing at this point? Like, are you just going to just drop a record until. Until you get a reaction?

[Rory Farrell]

And I guess I don't know what I'm trying to figure out too. Outside looking in as someone that really with Daylight, what was the strategy here? Because you came to New York and shot the video, you definitely put a lot into this. Why wouldn't that be the haymaker? If you're gonna do all of this with a video, fly to New York, do this entire thing. Why wouldn't that be the joint? Why not do a temperature check, throw it out real quick, and then the haymaker be the one that you come to New York and shoot everything. It kind of just felt like a waste of time.

[Maul]

Yeah.

[Rory Farrell]

If you are gonna continue, why wouldn't, like, you're. You shot a video and you're talking about, like, this is just the first round. Like, I'm just chilling. Then why are you on the A train right now? Yeah, like, do that for the one.

[Maul]

Yeah. This is. It's not. And it's no chilling. What is this chilling you keep talking about? Like, the fight is on. The fight has started it.

[Rory Farrell]

And you know what? I also don't like in battle rap. And this just speaking as a fan, like, unfortunately, there is no real rules in. In battle rap. Rest in peace to capital Steve. Condolences to his entire family. I don't think it was crazy that that Daylight brought him up. He posted a photo. We knew it was coming. Given this whole cryptic about why Steve's jumped off and knowing something about Joey. Like, if you don't really have information about that, don't set up that scheme because now you have to tell us. You have to finish that bar.

[Maul]

And don't give me a cliffhanger for song two. Like, no.

[Rory Farrell]

And if you don't really have something, that's going to be crazy. Now, I feel like, all right, now you're wasting even going over the line because that's what battle rap does. Now you're even wasting something on the capital C. And you don't really have any information. Like, you're trying to make us think you have something. Something. I don't. Personally, I just don't think I could be completely wrong. Play this clip when I'm wrong. I don't think Daylight has some crazy info that capital Steve offed himself because of something that Joey did or knew about Joey. Like, I just don't believe that. Just my gut tells me that.

[Maul]

Right.

[Rory Farrell]

I think he was probably going through a lot of things that people go through. So if you're setting that up and Daylight being the master of this craft the way he is, if you don't have the info, don't set the scheme up that way.

[Maul]

Yeah.

[Rory Farrell]

Cause now you. Now you can't just leave that. Now you have to tell us what that is.

[Maul]

I think that what Daylight does best is perform battle rap. It's obviously different on a beat, a record. Now if Joey and Daylight are on stage, no beat, and just, you know, able to go at each other, I think that Daylight fares way different in that type of environment. I just think now you talking about making a song and beat and, you know, music, and I just think that's a little. It's more elements added to it. So Daylight is not gonna look as good as Joey does in that. Because this is what Joey does. Joey makes songs, he makes music. He raps, you know, on beat and things like that. Now on stage, and you let Daylight just have his time and let him perform and let him get into his antics and, you know, get into his theatrics lyrics. I think that that's the better environment for Daylight. But this what Daylight did. As somebody that loves Daylight and with him, you know, love his. His rhymes and his battles, I. I was very disappointed and underwhelmed at. What is the name of this word to my mother. Something like that word.

[Daylight]

The member or something like that. It's weird.

[Rory Farrell]

Whatever. Whatever the corny New York jokes they make on.

[Maul]

Yeah. I don't know how you even say it, but I was disappointed. I'm not gonna lie. I was a very, very disappointed.

[Rory Farrell]

I do want to challenge west coast media, West Coast Twitter, west coast rappers, west coast execs. I came in here and ate humble pie multiple times to say that 2024 was the greatest year I've ever seen a coast have, down to the point that I came in here. Like, even their MLS team won the championship. Like, dog, what the. We cannot beat la. They had a fucking year. Year. I came in here and Dodgers. Yes. They won everything.

[Maul]

Yeah.

[Rory Farrell]

Came in here and gave them their props. Objectively. I know you guys are still on your victory lap. I get it. West coast had a moment. I need you guys to be the objective people that you claim to be. Joey Badass by himself is cooking everybody.

[Maul]

That's a fact.

[Rory Farrell]

You guys are rap fans, ones I respect. I know deep down in your soul, you know, Joey Badass is cooking everybody. And I need you guys. I need you guys show how objective you guys claim to be.

[Maul]

Wilson, what you. What you think about? What you think about? Joey? Ready to start ev all over again. Ready to go back to East Village radio?

[Rory Farrell]

I like East Village radio.

[Maul]

I love East Village radio.

[Rory Farrell]

Walk up in the street and watch it.

[Maul]

Joey might be in his. Yeah. He might be in the street city.

[Rory Farrell]

Yeah. I just want them to like, they're sending again. I think Rayon is a great rap. They're sending their best. And you have one guy that is their best.

[Daylight]

Yo, I'm sorry.

[Rory Farrell]

Whoa, whoa. Relax.

[Daylight]

I'm sorry.

[Rory Farrell]

You know, I don't really get along with Buddy because I think he said weird. But again, we're here to be objective. Unlike them. I think as far as bars go, not status or catalog or hits or anything, but Rayon could rap for real. Real. And as the West Coast, I would say bars. Rayon is definitely up there in the west coast when it comes to bars.

[Daylight]

He can rap.

[Rory Farrell]

Reason you put west side Boogie, those like, those guys rap for real. So I think. Yeah. That I'll give him his props on that. Not their best as far as accolades or status, but just barred up. Yeah. I think Rayvon in TDE is high up as far as bars go right now.

[Daylight]

Do you mean like. Like for the West? Do you mean like he's top 10 in the West?

[Rory Farrell]

Are we just talking like, straight up rapping? Rapping?

[Daylight]

Yes.

[Rory Farrell]

Yeah, he'd be top 10 as far as bars go.

[Maul]

What? Hold up, man. All right.

[Daylight]

I tried to save.

[Rory Farrell]

I don't have a top. See, I hate when people do that. Because I never thought about this before. Now I have to have a top 10.

[Maul]

I don't want this to come across. Yeah, y' all know I don't want this to come across the wrong way. And I don't. I know Ray Vaughn gonna hear this. And he got. I'm broke. He got more money than me.

[Rory Farrell]

I get it.

[Maul]

What I'm saying is that this in the top 10 new guys in the West. Or like top 10.

[Rory Farrell]

Like rapping. Rapping, yeah, yeah.

[Maul]

Of new guys or like all. Just anybody from the West Coast.

[Rory Farrell]

I personally, when it comes to. Are we saying west, like, is Simba included with the Bay or we just talking la? Cuz Simba. Simba clears everybody.

[Maul]

Just talk la. Just talk la.

[Daylight]

Oh, okay. Just talk LA and the whole west, but okay.

[Maul]

No, just talk LA play.

[Rory Farrell]

I think Reason and Westside Boogie are the two best rappers. Rappers in LA right now. Rappers.

[Maul]

Okay.

[Rory Farrell]

I'm not. Music is subjective as far as whatever the you like, they are. If a microphone is there and you throw on any beat, those are the two best rappers. I think Rayon is close to them. I think he needs to put a little bit more work.

[Daylight]

Reason going, whoop your ass.

[Maul]

Can't. He can't rap with.

[Rory Farrell]

No, no. I think. I think Reason clears Rayon Von. Don't get that twisted. But I think he can be in the conversation when it comes to, hey, we're about to battle somebody from New York and we're just rapping.

[Daylight]

Yeah.

[Rory Farrell]

I throw Ray in the mix.

[Daylight]

Okay. I don't think that's crazy.

[Rory Farrell]

Top signs, anybody?

[Daylight]

No, I don't think that that's crazy that you said it. I just wanted you to clarify upon your point.

[Rory Farrell]

West side Boogie and Reason are up here for me. They're. They're established as far as we know, their pedigree when it comes to actual rapping. But I don't think it's crazy to say Rayvon is not as far as the New west up there with bar cars.

[Daylight]

Okay.

[Rory Farrell]

I think he got cleaned up by Joey.

[Maul]

But it's just that when you said top 10, I had to make sure. What were you like, what was exactly the top 10? What would you basing that off of? That's all I thought you were talking about, like, just all of la, like all time.

[Rory Farrell]

All right, man.

[Maul]

That's what you said.

[Daylight]

You had to clean it up.

[Maul]

You had to clean it up. That's what I'm like.

[Rory Farrell]

We're talking about new right now.

[Maul]

Okay, okay, okay. The new one, you think?

[Rory Farrell]

I think Rayvon is top 10 LA of all time, Tom.

[Maul]

You said top 10 from the West Coast. That's what you said. So I just had to make sure what you were talking about.

[Rory Farrell]

DJ Quick will clean up, right?

[Maul]

I just had to make sure what you were saying. That's all. That's all I'm. That's all I was trying to get to. Just trying to clarify your point. That's.

[Rory Farrell]

No. We started with saying of who would be a worthy opponent in this entire thing. And I. They're sending their best. That's what started this whole thing.

[Maul]

God damn it.

[Rory Farrell]

Is daylight not top 10 rappers?

[Daylight]

They might have to open it. They might have to open it up from just LA a little bit. Like. Like you said. Somebody go get some blood.

[Maul]

Listen, man, for the way Joey rapping today. The way Joey rapping, man, y' all gotta send more than that.

[Daylight]

They gotta send Kendrick.

[Maul]

Y' all gotta send. Y' all gotta send Kenny.

[Daylight]

Y' all gotta send.

[Maul]

Call Kenny, get him out wherever he's at on tour, man.

[Rory Farrell]

Yo, even I think Daylight's above that. You couldn't kill Kenny. Even with south park not saying it's a bad bar. I just think Daylight's above those.

[Maul]

They don't even gotta call Kenny. Somebody just go tell jrock his little homies is getting punched on at the park, man.

[Rory Farrell]

He gonna come up with a dirt bike.

[Maul]

Yeah, let J Rock come in here because I. With J Rock, he rap his ass.

[Rory Farrell]

I think Redemption is a classic.

[Maul]

Call J Rock, man. Somebody tell J Rock that his little brother somebody took their ball, man, at the park, man. Joey came through, took their basketball left, man.

[Rory Farrell]

Yo, so I was talking with Simba right when this Daylight came out. And Daylight shouted out Simba in the first verse. And I was like, listen, man, you saw a reason just. They just said his name. And he. He entered the chat like, what's up? You need me to send some beasts? I feel like Simba needs to just Daylight now.

[Daylight]

No.

[Maul]

What you just were.

[Daylight]

You just bored.

[Maul]

This is wrestling at this point. Yeah, you want. You want Ted Dibiase to swing on Virgil? What you doing, man?

[Rory Farrell]

He said his name.

[Maul]

Nah, man, nah, nah. Simba don't need to.

[Rory Farrell]

I want as a fan. I want somebody to dissima so bad, just as a fan, because I know he's not going to jump out the window and just diss somebody for the of it.

[Daylight]

Yeah. Didn't he do that already?

[Rory Farrell]

Ah, sort of. No, he just. He rapped about the moment we. He knew Cole was not replying to that. He still had the funniest bar of last year to me, you a let n down.

[Daylight]

Can we revisit that? Because that and this is not me being a Cole fan. He shouldn't have did that.

[Rory Farrell]

Why?

[Daylight]

He shouldn't have did that.

[Maul]

Why not?

[Daylight]

That is one of my favorite lines that somebody has ever said in a song that really made me laugh. But he should have ended up.

[Maul]

But why he shouldn't have done.

[Daylight]

Because the same reason.

[Maul]

Is he a rapper?

[Daylight]

Yes. But at. But at the same time, you would have never done that. Like, like, just. I don't like when people picking people. When it's like they down. Like Cole was down at that moment. It's like you would have never said. Had a negative word to say about Cole. You never had a negative word.

[Rory Farrell]

This is where I feel like history gets lost in so much hot. 97G unit era Rockefeller era. Anytime rappers went up to freestyle, they would talk about the current that was going on. Simba was no different. It's just a different platform now. He just did it on YouTube. It's the same. Even if they weren't involved with the beef. Freeway is talking about something that has to do with the current moment of who's rap. Prodigy went up and talked about so many. He would freestyle about other beefs that was going on. That's just what rappers did. Like now all of a sudden, they can't do that. They can't talk about what's going on.

[Daylight]

He can do whatever he wants. I just, just. You don't got to say you let Boz down, Nas down and K down.

[Rory Farrell]

That's hilarious.

[Daylight]

That was the bro.

[Rory Farrell]

When I tell you the funniest bar of last year, period. Boss and C definitely laughed at that too.

[Daylight]

Like, had me in tears when I heard.

[Maul]

Yeah, it was real though.

[Daylight]

Yo, I want to cry. Think about it again. It wasn't necessary though.

[Rory Farrell]

Well, we got off on a tangent. I am just saying I need need all of west coast Twitter media to finally be objective. Be who you guys say you are.

[Maul]

Yeah, you guys are sending real great raps. We're head at man. He just. He the spokesperson, right? What Gina got to say what Gina.

[Rory Farrell]

Said because she posted something.

[Maul]

Gina was happy, ran to the booth. She was hype. All right, cool. Now that we got these songs out the booth and on our DSPs or on YouTube or wherever the they living that now what does Gina have to say?

[Rory Farrell]

We have. We have to give Gina credit because she definitely posted something yesterday. Can we pull up Gina's Twitter?

[Daylight]

All right, so I'm Looking at Gina's Twitter right now, she said a warning question mark. Empty the clip with. She used the clip from Set it off. So talking about.

[Maul]

Talking about Daylights.

[Daylight]

Yeah.

[Rory Farrell]

Gina. I love objective media. See, she's being who she said she was. She's being objective. She even posted this yesterday. Today, nobody. Joey Badass. He chewing through.

[Maul]

Somebody clipped that with no audio and.

[Damaris]

Sent it to me.

[Rory Farrell]

Chewing through.

[Maul]

Said Joey Ch. Joey Ch.

[Rory Farrell]

I want Gina on this pod so bad. Look, I love her. Next time in New York, please, please, we would love to have you on the show. We are huge fans. But she's being objective. And you see, it's making Head uncomfortable. Shout out to our guy.

[Maul]

Shout out to head. What Head got to say, man. Say something. Say something. You gotta say something. Talk about it.

[Daylight]

You know what? Interesting.

[Rory Farrell]

Is Jeremy allowed to say anything negative about td? I don't know how it works.

[Maul]

He signed the td.

[Rory Farrell]

I don't. I mean, if he's. If he's not on payroll, I'd love to broker the deal.

[Daylight]

Oh, that's okay.

[Maul]

I love white on white violence. You know I love white on white crime.

[Rory Farrell]

I'm around, man. I be texting Jeff, get that hunky.

[Daylight]

Oh, my God, that white.

[Rory Farrell]

Yeah, J, if I'm a white, you're a white, too.

[Maul]

I love a white. And start fighting.

[Daylight]

Calling him a honky is crazy. Jesus.

[Rory Farrell]

Yeah, we about to turn this to Jersey shorts. White fighting everywhere.

[Daylight]

Me or you, Jeremy, you think you'll win?

[Rory Farrell]

I don't want to fight, J. I don't want to fight anyone.

[Daylight]

I just asked.

[Rory Farrell]

My knees crack. I'm worried about the brims. You think I could. Jeremy on my mind.

[Daylight]

Yeah, you got. You got bigger issues.

[Maul]

Good shirt you got on.

[Daylight]

That red shirt ain't gonna do it, Pooh.

[Rory Farrell]

Nah, but, like, you know, Suge went to.

[Daylight]

That ain't even the right red.

[Maul]

Yeah, you make it all connect. I. I get what you.

[Rory Farrell]

It's deeper than rap.

[Maul]

It is.

[Rory Farrell]

Before we get off the Joey Badass thing, did you guys see that he posted, like, paperwork that said TD east filed their llc. That Top dog as the co owner. Do we think that that was just, like, fake for the beef? The way, like, Drake posted the fake invoice for Pusha T? Like, we just gave you 200,000 units because we talked to you? Or are you guys on the conspiracy theory side that a lot of Twitter is that this has been a planned rollout since before the Red Bull shit. That's the reason Absol was right next to Joey Badass. During that entire thing. This was going to boost rayon. Joey, we've seen with Pro Era, we're not really sure where that lands right now or with cinematic ships, everything. I. I personally just don't know.

[Daylight]

I wouldn't be surprised.

[Rory Farrell]

I could see a world where Top Dog and Joey Badass have a conversation, because we know what Joey can build as a label. As a label owner and leader. He did great with Pro Amazing era. I can see Top Dog looking at him like, yo, we trying to do this TDE right now. We'll get your rollout moving with a beef. We have Daylight and Rayvon right here. We'll throw soul on that red bullshit. I can see this being real.

[Maul]

I could see it being real. I don't know if it's. If it ties in to all of that you just said, but I could see TD east being a real thing. I could see Top and Joey having, you know, spoken in the past about, you know, doing business together and things like that. I just don't know if everything that you just said is part of it. If. I don't know if it's part of a rollout. I don't know if all of that is part of it. But I could see TD east being a real thing, though.

[Rory Farrell]

I will. Again, this is the objective podcast today. That's an L for New York.

[Maul]

TD East.

[Rory Farrell]

Yeah.

[Maul]

Anytime. I never was a fan of that. Like, Death Row East. Death Row again. I never heard of that.

[Rory Farrell]

I hope this isn't true. I hope Top Dog and Joey Badass do work together and put together a.

[Maul]

Label, but I don't call it td. Yeah, don't call it TD east, though.

[Rory Farrell]

I could see the west coast now has a one up on us. Like, come on, we had to go to your coast to say, David.

[Maul]

Yeah.

[Rory Farrell]

TD East.

[Maul]

Yeah. I was never a fan of that.

[Rory Farrell]

And, like, even. I mean, I was six years old, so I don't remember. I just watched the videos. Even when Pac was trying to do Death Row east, it made more sense because he had the Outlaws. They was from Jersey. Like, there was already east coast going on.

[Maul]

East coast fair.

[Rory Farrell]

But just coming, like, in 2025 for TD East, I'm not wearing the T shirt. That's all I'm saying.

[Maul]

You're not getting.

[Rory Farrell]

I was a proud New Yorker. I'm not wearing that T shirt.

[Maul]

Get the merch. You got to get the hat.

[Rory Farrell]

I'm wearing a Rockefeller.

[Daylight]

Shit.

[Rory Farrell]

Rough Riders not doing Bad boy.

[Maul]

But yeah.

[Rory Farrell]

And you know what, man? What the Is reason talking about?

[Maul]

What did Reason say I.

[Rory Farrell]

The only thing I hated that Kendrick said, which I was vocal about during the whole battle, was not even pedophile. Was that you said, everybody hates the west coast, and I'm fine with it. No, we don't. We've always loved the West Coast.

[Maul]

That's just.

[Rory Farrell]

That's reason. Tried to get on that first verse, which I'm going to talk to him in person about that show. We are not jealous of y' all.

[Maul]

People got to stop this narrative.

[Rory Farrell]

I've never been sitting there going like, God, those guys.

[Daylight]

You're not a rapper, though, Rory. You're not a rapper. He's a rapper.

[Rory Farrell]

I revere the west coast in everything that they've done. I love west coast music. I've never sat and like, I'm so jealous of them.

[Maul]

East coast rappers have never felt like that, though. That was not a. That's not a. Even the whole way. The whole. This whole May have started with packing big. That wasn't a real thing thing. Those two gentlemen knew each other on a personal level. That was a very person. That wasn't. They. They spun it into east versus West. That's not a real thing. Like, the east coast has always with the West Coast. West coast has always with the East Coast. You ask some. Some people from the West Coast. They huge dipset fans. In high school, everybody was dressing like Jim or Cam or like that. That they've. It's always been like, love from each side.

[Rory Farrell]

Yeah. That dipset took from west coast culture, too. Like, I love that as well.

[Maul]

Yeah.

[Rory Farrell]

This is a new narrative that Kendrick started. It almost reminds me of when Nas said and Eminem murdered you on your own. And, like, that became the narrative that hov got be on Renegade. And then that turned into every single time. There's two features we have to talk. Who got killed? This and that. That whole. This whole disdain for the west coast is something they all made up in their head.

[Maul]

Yeah.

[Rory Farrell]

Nobody dislikes the West Coast. He loved the West Coast. You guys make amazing music. We're not jealous. Like, it's just. I just find it odd that they keep going to this thing that you can't even find evidence of anyone from Atlanta, Texas, New York that's ever been like, nah, we don't. We're not with them and the music they're making.

[Daylight]

Why are we acting? Okay. It's not. I don't think it's about the outside.

[Rory Farrell]

That pocket big. But again, that was not about the music. Yeah. That's what I'm saying. That wasn't even that, I don't think.

[Daylight]

Think it's about the music that they're making. If we're going off of this B. The things that are said in this battle alone. Joey was the first one to shoot that. Like, Joey, too much west coast dick licking. You can't say that and then say, why does everybody think that we hate the west coast when the rapper. That they're back.

[Maul]

That don't mean you don't. We don't like the West Coast. He just saying, like, yo, right now, y' all just. It's too much of that going on.

[Daylight]

But that's.

[Maul]

That don't mean we don't like the West Coast.

[Daylight]

That sounds. As a rapper, I would take that as you can. One can make an argument that why are you mad that we get in love? Why is it west coast dick licking we get in love? Why you mad about that? Are you jealous that it's not New York dick licking? That's where I would come off with that.

[Maul]

I mean, what. Joey just showed why he felt like it was too much dick licking. Y' all can't rap.

[Rory Farrell]

Do you think Jay was hating when he. When he said that line?

[Maul]

I'm not trying to be funny. I'm just saying he's showing it, like, too much west coast dick. Okay. Y' all felt the way about that ball? Okay, let's rap. Boom. Okay, Now y' all see why he said the ball. Too much West Coast. He feels like some of you, a lot of y' all can't really rap. That don't mean that the east coast don't like the West Coast. He just saying, right now, I don't feel like y' all are that good. There's nothing wrong with that. New York has had his times where we weren't that good. The south has had his times where they weren't that good. It happens. You go through waves and you go through periods where it's like, yo, they don't really got it right now. It's not a really. A lot of dope MCs coming out of the city right now. Like, that don't mean that. Yo, we don't like California. We don't like the Bay.

[Daylight]

Like, no, but what the fuck is that about? About reasons line was, it's a coast jealousy that you think we ain't noticed. Y' all used to be the Meccas. You was really goated, right? So I again, because of what Joey said, I can't be mad at the rappers from the west saying, oh, you is mad. We get in love. I can't. That's not. I don't think that that's a reach that they're saying, oh, you is mad that we're getting love. Because right now, the west coast is leading the sound because of this whole entire battle that happened with Kendrick. Everybody's over here trying to make west coast sound in music.

[Rory Farrell]

I. I'll give him a reason to think hate is here. Now let's get to the facts.

[Daylight]

Oh, God.

[Rory Farrell]

Is the west coast leading right now or is Kendrick Lamar leading right now?

[Daylight]

But Kendrick Lamar is. Hold on.

[Rory Farrell]

Because how could we be jealous of the West Coast? Like, yes, Kendrick had the greatest year. And again, I was joking with the MLS and the Dodgers and all that for funsies. What is there to be jealous us of? Let's have an objective combo. I'll do the devil's advocate.

[Daylight]

Okay?

[Rory Farrell]

Why not say, hey, you guys are jealous of Kendrick Lamar?

[Daylight]

Because the Kendrick Lamar sound that he has right now is a West coast sound.

[Rory Farrell]

Okay? Name. Name another record that's. That's moved outside of GNX with that sound right now.

[Daylight]

Come on.

[Rory Farrell]

Who else in the West. Come on, come on. No, no, no. Let's get down to it. The west coast has gotten away with a lot of. Let's get to some facts.

[Daylight]

I'm not fighting for the West. I'm just saying why one would take that as that. That's all. That's all.

[Rory Farrell]

I'm asking you a question. Why?

[Daylight]

I don't. I don't listen to the west coast music.

[Rory Farrell]

I think Kendrick did an amazing thing by putting on a bunch of west coast artists. But after that, GNX is gnx. If Jay Z puts out the Black Album, are rappers jealous of Jay Z or New York City? They're jealous of Jay. The whole west coast isn't moving the way that they're trying to position this. Okay? I'm gonna get killed by brims in New York and. And in Los Angeles.

[Daylight]

Listen.

[Maul]

Why?

[Rory Farrell]

Because I'm telling the truth.

[Daylight]

Yeah, Ma, what do you think?

[Maul]

About what?

[Daylight]

You agree with what he just said?

[Maul]

Yeah, most of it. Yeah, I agree. Kendrick obviously had an amazing year. He turned it into the west coast versus one of the biggest artists in the world. World had the Pop out show brought out a lot of artists from the city, which was great. He used his moment and he used his platform to shine light on his city. And a lot of the artists that are in his city, which is great. But now. Okay, cool. The light is there now. Y' all gotta show up now. You gotta Perform now. Y' all gotta live up to it now. You gotta kind of show us. And if this is the moment where a lot of the guys that some who really feel like a top 10 right now in this moment, a guy who kind of wasn't even being talked about until he decided to say too much west coast dick licking. Like, we wasn't talking about Joey Badass's music before that. We was talking about Unique on Raising Canaan Facts. And the great job that Joey was doing on that show. It wasn't even about music. It was like, yo, this Joey, he acting his ass off. That Unique character was so good, they had to bring him back from the dead. So. So I'm just saying, like it was that now if Joey says that line and then he goes on to rap the way he's rapping and then artists from, you know, the west coast respond is lackluster. It kind of falls flat. It's not really landing like that. Then was he wrong in saying too much west coast dick looking?

[Rory Farrell]

I actually, I mean, of course it was the flip off the whole shit, but I think Joey Badass was wrong in that flip. And Q, keep white people opinions out of hip hop. For this question clip the West Coast, I'll use DJ Head's word. I think the west coast has a delusion right now that all of us watched Kendrick Lamar in 2024 and thought West Coast. We're looking at what the west coast is doing. No, we're looking at Kendrick Lamar.

[Maul]

Kendrick lived down the block.

[Rory Farrell]

Kendrick live in Brooklyn.

[Maul]

I'm just saying, I get.

[Rory Farrell]

I love the west coast unity. I love the pop out everyone there. The fact that y' all think. Reason you included, my friend. The fact that y' all think that we are all watching this and going, damn, look what the west coast is doing. We are not viewing it that way. We're viewing it. Look at what Kendrick Lamar just did. Y' all were not in that battle.

[Daylight]

But you can't. But you also can't say that when you just sat up here and gave Rayvon all kinds of props.

[Rory Farrell]

I think he's a great rapper.

[Daylight]

Said Daylight was one of your top three fucking battle rap to this day after this showing love but you can't.

[Rory Farrell]

Album was the most underrated rap album of last year.

[Daylight]

So then you can you see what what AB just did with his. His partner.

[Rory Farrell]

The best three album in the last five years.

[Daylight]

You can't sit up there and say is just jealous of what Kendrick is doing because you just shouted out all the west that's doing their thing.

[Rory Farrell]

I know. I'm saying how they have pointed. This is. Now everyone's upset at the West Coast.

[Maul]

Nobody is based off this battle.

[Rory Farrell]

Now it's like, damn, look what they all did last year. And we're jealous of no Kendrick Lamar, who also happens to be from the west coast did that.

[Daylight]

Okay, okay.

[Rory Farrell]

Just a little truth serum for. For everyone. I think it's great. I love the unity. But I'm telling you, nobody outside of LA viewed last year and went, damn, the west coast smoked that. No, no. Kendrick Lamar smoked that.

[Daylight]

Okay, so then why we don't have anybody. Why is everybody.

[Rory Farrell]

New York is trash. I'm here.

[Daylight]

Okay. I was gonna say because we are awful.

[Rory Farrell]

I would kill to have the rappers that are in the west coast right now in New York City.

[Daylight]

Let's just be honest about that. Because we. You saying they ain't doing. That's why I love ass thing. We ain't doing.

[Rory Farrell]

30 minutes ago I just said, damn, we look soft as Joey. Thank God held his own because he could have got packed out by all the people that Daylight Rayon. These are good rappers. Abso ma, what do you think?

[Maul]

I don't think nobody could rap better than Jadakus.

[Daylight]

But is Jiss outside, though?

[Maul]

You don't want him to be outside. I. I see what happened when Jadakiss.

[Daylight]

Come, but we also don't want. We also wouldn't want for Jay Z to come outside, but that. These are legends. Yes. We will always have the best. The best rappers that have ever been alive have been from New York, period. But right now that are active and in these streets, who do we have.

[Maul]

That'S like as far as like new.

[Daylight]

Wave New York, New York that can rap Bars. Bars.

[Maul]

I mean, well, New York, the new. The younger New York, kind of for the most part, because there are still some. Some rappers that really rap in New York. Vato being one of them.

[Rory Farrell]

But he's respectfully. He's still kind of legacy. I feel like Vato's been in the game for.

[Maul]

No, he's been. Oh, yeah.

[Rory Farrell]

No, he's probably been in the game for 20 years.

[Maul]

Yeah, no, for sure. But I mean, we still have guys that rap, though, who that. Well, not too much of the newer cats. A lot of the newer cats are more vibe and style and they're not really rapping. The whole drill scene kind of is like, you know, you're not really looking for the drill sound to be rap. Like they're not really spitting bars like that. It's more Of a. A vibe and the energy.

[Daylight]

So we don't have.

[Rory Farrell]

That's why I'll stay consistent. I will say the west coast has better rappers than we do right now. For sure. HD been dope from Brooklyn. I like him. He's dope, but he's, you know, still bubbling and coming up like we. We have those rappers right now.

[Maul]

But is Joey not a bad. Is he not a legacy?

[Rory Farrell]

Yeah, for sure.

[Maul]

Yeah. I mean, the New York, the younger cast.

[Rory Farrell]

When did 1999 come out?

[Maul]

Yeah, the young cats just got away from really like bars. It's not really. It's not really like a lot of bar spitters in New York like that. There's some. There's some.

[Rory Farrell]

And we're saying not legacy because I know they'll clip this and be like, yo, what the.

[Maul]

Yeah, we talking about.

[Rory Farrell]

I know my song could bar anybody up right now. We're talking about new.

[Maul]

The new. The new Younger Cats. It's not too many that's really trying to, you know, give you bars like that. A lot of the new music coming out of New York is more vibe and, you know, energy. It's not really like bars.

[Rory Farrell]

And we're also open to not being tapped in.

[Maul]

Yeah, I mean, there's probably a few that I never heard that didn't land on my radar yet. I mean, you know, again, I'm open to hearing whoever feel like, you know, out of the young Cats feel like they're bar spitters, then I'm open to hearing that. But other than that, I mean. I mean. Yeah, wait, but hold on though. I don't. I still think Don Q is a problem.

[Rory Farrell]

I agree.

[Maul]

For the young cats, like spitting.

[Rory Farrell]

He probably has 10 years in too, though, I think.

[Maul]

Yeah, but that's. He's approaching that, you know, 10 year thing as well. But Don Q, as far as, you know, Young cats that rap, Don Q, he's one of my favorites as far as like just really rapping.

[Rory Farrell]

And I mean, I'm here to give more credit to the west coast ghost. Don Q. Maybe in a different system would be better. No disrespect to Hybrid's label, but publicly you can see the ups and downs that they went through. There was a lot of internal. That we don't even need to speak about that do with Hybrid's label. Had Don. Had New York had a label like TDE or someone like Top Dog. And Don Q goes in that system. I think he has a different career. So that's also where we up in New York. It's not even outside of the talent level. We don't have something like a tde. We don't have somebody like a Gucci who's going to put on every single bit of talent that is in Atlanta. We don't have a qc. So, yeah, we're trash. Not only currently where our music is at as an organization, as a record label, as a whole crew, we suck.

[Maul]

Yeah. Hey, watch your mouth though, man. I don't like the way you just said that sometimes, but you part of it. We suck.

[Daylight]

But you're right though.

[Rory Farrell]

You can't call my kids stupid. But I can call my kids.

[Maul]

I call my stupid.

[Rory Farrell]

Yeah, that's internal. This. This Christmas argument. This is just for the family.

[Maul]

No, no, I get it. I get it. Yeah. No, it's definitely. It's definitely a problem in New York with the younger cats. As far as like bar spitters though, like, we've definitely been slacking when it comes to that. It's still, you know, good music coming out of New York.

[Rory Farrell]

But it's not just that. I think and we can close this because I know we're getting like super music nerd shit. But it's not just that. For the last 20 years, New York has been bad at the bar spitters, knowing how to make music like nobody's make. There's people that could rap for real, but they're not making songs. Yeah, like Kiss you brought up without question. Obviously one of the greatest ever from New York City. When you watch Kisses versus were you outside of like the who shot your freestyle? Were you focusing on Kisses, bars or like, oh my God, this guy has created so many amazing songs.

[Maul]

Yeah, for sure.

[Rory Farrell]

Well, both we lost the songs. Like even the west coast has been amazing at creating songs. Yg, maybe not the greatest rapper per se. He has a classic rap out. My crazy life is flawless because he knows how to make fucking songs. Kendrick can wrap his ass off. But what makes Kendrick one of the greatest ever is because he knows how to make songs and albums. We lost that in New York. We stopped making songs. It's either you can bar the up or you're doing sexy drill. There's no middle ground where the rappers know how to make songs. That only happens in Atlanta, Texas, in Toronto and LA now.

[Maul]

Yeah, yeah, it's. It's a drought in as far as Spitters in New York for sure though. It's definitely a drought. The newer guys, the younger guys, I'm not talking about about legacy and guys that's been outside over 10, 12, 15 years. I'm talking about the newer cats that just came outside five years ago, six years ago. Like, it's definitely a drought.

[Rory Farrell]

Yeah. And, I mean, I know it's fun. Blame E.O. it's Ebro's fault. All right. Name a good song. What. What song should have Ebro played?

[Maul]

Yeah, no, I get it, but definitely get it.

[Rory Farrell]

I don't know.

[Maul]

We love the west coast, so let's. Let's bury that.

[Rory Farrell]

He's gonna have a field day cutting this up. I'm saying this now. I know everyone that's gonna kill me is not seeing this part, but, hey, watch the whole clip.

[Daylight]

Yeah, good luck with that, buddy.

[Rory Farrell]

There's a lot of context in everything I said. It's not just. I'm not just on the west Coast.

[Maul]

Love to the east Coast. Love to the west Coast. Love when rappers rap. Love to the south. Love to the north. Love to everybody across the pond in the UK Everybody. We love everybody. We support whoever's dope, whoever's hot, whoever's really, you know, doing their thing in music. But a lot of y' all is trash.

[Rory Farrell]

Before we get out of here, I just want to say I checked something off my 2025 predictions already. Rihanna would tease us with music, but we won't get an album. Put out a single for the Smurfs.

[Maul]

Well, I mean, she's doing the soundtrack, I think, right?

[Rory Farrell]

She's on one song.

[Daylight]

She's one of the songs. Cardi has a song on here too. A couple people do.

[Maul]

Oh, okay.

[Rory Farrell]

So, yeah, I mean, there's my. My checklist.

[Maul]

Okay.

[Rory Farrell]

Smoking that.

[Maul]

We want to send prayers to former president Joe Biden, who has been diagnosed with. With an aggressive form of prostate cancer. We got the news over the weekend that the former president was diagnosed, so we wanted to send prayers to him and his family. It was good to see, you know, a lot of former presidents. Well, those that we have left that are still living send their support and their condolences to him and his family. So we want to send a healthy and, you know, successful recovery to former President Joe Biden.

[Rory Farrell]

Very mature of you this week. Well, it'll come out next week. We are definitely breaking down that Mexican boat crashing into Brooklyn Bridge on Patreon. We might have to dedicate a full episode of Patreon to that boat crashing. Yeah, there's a lot of stuff on this list. I'm. I'm very excited for our Patreon.

[Maul]

That was crazy.

[Rory Farrell]

Johnny Gill got beat by Stevie Wonder and Ping Pong. There's a lot to cover.

[Maul]

There's a p. Oh, air hockey.

[Rory Farrell]

Air hockey.

[Maul]

Air hockey. Yeah. It's a rhythm. It's a. You got to feel it.

[Rory Farrell]

Yeah. You feel the air coming up from this.

[Maul]

Exactly. You got to feel, you know, your senses. When you lose your vision, it's like bobsled. Yeah. Like you could feel your sense of feel and timing is. It's a little. Stevie had the advantage is all I'm saying. When it comes to air hockey, Stevie.

[Rory Farrell]

Had this like when. When Vince Vaughn put the. The over his face for dodgeball. Like, he just had to feel it.

[Maul]

Yeah, you got to feel it. Your senses are. You know what I mean? It's like remember in. In Bloodsport when Van Damme was blind and he couldn't. He had to feel him. Yeah, it's same thing.

[Rory Farrell]

Life of bird box. She brought the two kids to safety. MGK couldn't do it, but she could also. Next episode we will be getting an update from Maul about Baddies Africa.

[Maul]

Oh, my God.

[Rory Farrell]

I'm already behind the scenes in talks of like, seeing how we get involved with that reunion.

[Maul]

Because I love it.

[Rory Farrell]

I think you and Bobby Light would play off each other very well.

[Maul]

Why you keep trying to make that?

[Rory Farrell]

Because he's the host. He'd be in the crowd. He does crowd work.

[Maul]

Yes, you're right, he does. Shout out to Bobby.

[Rory Farrell]

Be like, that's all.

[Maul]

Yeah, shout out to Baddies Africa. Man, I'd be in the crib watching that. I was like, yo, nobody will believe that I'm really sitting here watching this. They just be on there fighting. You looked at me.

[Rory Farrell]

I might ruin our chances now. Is Natalie Nunn the biggest culture vulture that's ever existed?

[Maul]

She might be, because Natalie Nun ain't ratchet. Like, if you remember when Natal first made her first television appearance, she is not a ratchet girl. She ain't a girl that be fighting another. None of that. And somehow she is. She has capitalized off of girls being ratchet and fighting. But I ain't mad at her, man. Get your bag. It is what it is. But I'm locked in. I'm all the way in on baddies, though. Baddies Africa.

[Rory Farrell]

As we close, would you judge me if I ordered a bunch of the Zeus security T shirts?

[Maul]

Just.

[Rory Farrell]

I got them in women's sizes too.

[Maul]

Why would you have for the cruise.

[Rory Farrell]

Like, you know, if I got girls over, they could put on the. The Zeus security.

[Maul]

Yeah, but why would you want them to wear security T shirts in the.

[Rory Farrell]

Reunions anytime they get in a fight and all their Clothes get ripped off, security gives them the Zeus T shirt.

[Maul]

Right? Got that part.

[Rory Farrell]

Yeah. I got packs of those at the crib.

[Maul]

For what?

[Rory Farrell]

If a girl needs a shirt.

[Maul]

So. So you ordered. You ordered Zeus multiple sizes. Why not just give them a regular? The one you have on would have been fine.

[Rory Farrell]

Yeah, but the Zeus one means more.

[Maul]

Okay, I hear you, man. Whatever. Whatever.

[Rory Farrell]

The trying to create a culture, man.

[Maul]

No, I get it. I totally understand. It's a cult. It's more like it's a fight club. I get it.

[Rory Farrell]

It's the number one rule of fight club.

[Maul]

Wear.

[Rory Farrell]

Wear a Zeus T shirt.

[Daylight]

You're so silly, Baby D. That's what he said. What's up?

[Maul]

Nobody said that. You was home by yourself. All.

[Rory Farrell]

Wait, why would he say that? Wouldn't she say that?

[Maul]

No, she fake gay. You know that. She ain't real gay.

[Rory Farrell]

No, Mar is a real gay.

[Daylight]

What's up? What's going on? I ain't debating my gayness with nobody. What's going on? You called my name.

[Maul]

Oh, no, I'm just.

[Daylight]

You just like the sound of my name in your mouth. I know a lot of people do. You gonna wrap this up?

[Rory Farrell]

We had such. We had such growth here today.

[Maul]

It's still growth. Growth is here. I love everybody. I hope everybody has a great week. Safe week. We will talk to y' all soon. Be safe. Be blessed. I'm black, he's white.

[Rory Farrell]

A as well.

[Maul]

White bitch.

[Rory Farrell]

And everyone remember that. Volume said they were gonna put us on the court on Wednesday.

[Maul]

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[Rory Farrell]

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[Daylight]

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[Maul]

Ah, but do you know what our.

[Rory Farrell]

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[Maul]

No.

[Rory Farrell]

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[Maul]

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[Rory Farrell]

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