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Rory
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Rory
The volume New Worry and Mouth. We are back getting towards the end of the week.
Mall
Spill my water all over my pants. It's okay.
Rory
Listen, man, it's fine.
Mall
Yeah, it is.
Rory
It's fine because we're presented by Boost Mobile. Doesn't matter what happens to your pants. You just call. You can call and get some new pants.
Mall
That's it.
Rory
My mobile is wild boosted right now.
Mall
I don't know if that, like, I don't know what that means.
Rory
But you never had your, like your mobile boosted.
Mall
Absolutely, yeah. By Boost Mobile.
Rory
Exactly.
Mall
There you go.
Rory
Anyways, how are you feeling? Oh, not good, actually.
Mall
Well, my stomach was a little on the ride and my stomach was messed up. Ate some. Something that kind of upset my stomach last night. So I had an interesting ride into the city.
Rory
What is greasy vegan food? Like, how could they cook anything that's.
Mall
Cooked with oil and fried?
Rory
I felt like you guys take oil out of your diet too.
Damaris
No, no, vegan is not healthy. It's just absence of animal product. Not healthy.
Mall
Not healthy.
Damaris
It can be healthy, but just because it's vegan doesn't mean it's automatically.
Mall
Oh, yeah, no, no, no. Just. Yeah, vegan doesn't mean cu. There's definitely bad vegan food, for sure.
Rory
Oh, no, we know there's bad vegan food.
Mall
There's great vegan food too though.
Rory
We've had some. My frat brother from Philly, he had the hot dogs and burgers and everything. That was good, good vegan food.
Mall
Yeah, but I'm talking about like, that's like still like fast food vegan.
Rory
Yeah. Okay.
Mall
I'm talking about like good cuisine. Good like five course vegan food.
Rory
Okay, so you were feeling a little crazy and you went a little crazy, man. So I can. Got some.
Mall
No, definitely. Oh, God. No, not. I didn't go see. I just ordered some food from the spot last night and it's usually good. I don't want to throw them out there, but the food is usually good. Last night. I don't know. Whoever was on the. Whoever was the chef last night kind of got a little heavy handed with the.
Rory
I heard, I heard he was the chef up north.
Mall
Yeah, he should have got left up north, so kind of upset my stomach and riding it today. Y' all know how much, how much slack I give female Uber drivers, but I'm here to say that had it not been for this female driver that drove me into the city today, Rory. I may have come in here with a diaper on.
Rory
Okay, wow. So you're. This is pretty much like your version of Remember the Titans.
Mall
Yes.
Rory
Like you finally saw the people you hate as human beings.
Mall
Yes.
Rory
Nah. Sunshine was the only cool white. Gary was super racist and became unracist within 12 minutes.
Mall
Yeah, yeah.
Rory
So, yeah. Okay, so that this was your. Where they go to Gettysburg or whatever.
Mall
Yes.
Rory
Like, you finally.
Mall
Exactly where I went.
Rory
She was your Julius.
Mall
The bathroom that she took me to, this lady was so helpful. She knew where one of the cleanest. And you know how tough it is to find a clean bathroom in Manhattan, Rory, unless you go to, like, a real restaurant and use that bathroom.
Rory
But you naturally were like, women are only supposed to clean so she would know where to go.
Mall
I mean, I just. I'm just grateful because only a woman would have known where this bathroom was. I mean, it smelled like bleach and Top Job and, like, fabuloso. It was like they just cleaned the bathroom and opened for business.
Rory
I'm gonna guess she had baby wipes in the glove box.
Mall
No, I had baby wipes. You know, I keep baby wipes in my bag at all times, so I had my baby wipes. I wasn't, you know, too. Too nervous about that, but I thought I had to throw up. I thought it was, you know, throw up. You could just pull over anywhere. Throw up outside the car.
Rory
She didn't end the trip. Like, she chilled.
Mall
She didn't end the trip. She dropped me off. I don't know how this lady knew where this. Well, she said she had went there one night, and she always remembered how clean the bathroom was. Cause she's like a germaphobe. And so she took me to this. This. This diner, dropped me off, waited for me, went in there, did what I had to do. It was real quick, right to. It didn't have to wait. You know, sometimes you sit down, you gotta wait, scroll on your phone. Yeah, no, we was right there at the rim. We was waiting for it. It's like a layup.
Rory
No, you was right there at the rim.
Mall
You know, so me, I was at the rim.
Rory
Yeah.
Mall
Went in there, used the bathroom, came out. She was right there. Asked me if she wanted me to. If she. If. If I wanted her to take me to get some tea, some peppermint tea. No, this lady.
Rory
Did you book her for the day? Is she outside right now?
Mall
Listen, she was. She's a. She's a godsend, bro. This lady was sent to me this morning because God knew that I was gonna need her to close. Because you know what it is your body. It's weird how when you get closer to your destination, where, you know, once I get to my office, I can use the bathroom. Yeah, good. It's like the closer I got.
Rory
Yeah, that's how it goes.
Mall
Your muscles and everything are just like, all right, we good? They just relax. Everything relaxes. And she knew what his bathroom was, so thank you to that lady. She absolutely saved my pants and my underwear today.
Rory
An ang. Patron saint of bubble guts.
Mall
No, she's the Charmin Angel. You know, the Charmin angel, the charming double.
Rory
What's two flies?
Mall
Oh, she's a two plot, charming angel. She got me to, to, to the bathroom. It was a great, great, clean, nice, clean bathroom. Everything was great. They had air freshener. They had Clorox wipes for the seat, in case you wanted. It was just beautiful. A real candle on the shelf that was lit. I was like, oh, this is. I almost, like, pulled my pants all the way down to the ankle. You know, when you get that comfortable, like. Yeah, because usually you keep it right here.
Rory
Just kick one leg off.
Mall
Yeah. It was like I was ready to. I was like, oh, no. This is like, they know. They take care of this place.
Rory
You're okay with your pants even touching.
Mall
Oh, my God. It was, it was amazing. It was an amazing experience. So I was able to get here, you know, nice and clean. I had my wipes, thank God. And I had you buy an ad, huh? No, she, I, I, I want to give her an ad. Like, I definitely want to give her an ad.
Rory
Was she cute?
Mall
She was okay. She was, she wasn't like, you know, she wasn't a. She wasn't a booger wolf. She wasn't a smoke show or nothing like that, but she was, you know, she was.
Rory
But her bathroom knowledge, like, made her more attractive. Like, the way, like, women will find a funny.
Mall
I was ready to, like, kiss her in the mouth after that. Like, that was amazing. I was like, how did you know that? Yeah, like a man, Rory, he would have dropped me off on the corner and sped off. He would have got mad that I made him miss the light.
Rory
He wouldn't even listen to, hey, pull over.
Mall
Yeah, no, he would have just, you know, I would have shit right on myself and had to walk like a penguin and find some clean underwear and clean pants.
Rory
I didn't expect us to start the pod with bowel movements, but I guess while we're here.
Mall
Yeah, we're here.
Rory
This was Monday morning. I actually forgot to tell. Well, I just actually didn't think you guys care, but we're here now, so it. I was making Amara breakfast Monday morning.
Mall
Before we came to record what was on the menu.
Rory
I mean, there was some healthy stuff, but I was making bacon because she loves bacon.
Mall
Okay.
Rory
It's definitely my daughter.
Mall
Yeah.
Rory
It's not the red hair. It's just her love for bacon. So. You know when bacon grease pops a little bit, I try to keep her away so I can feel her, like, tugging at my leg. And I'm like, amara, hot. Hot grease. Step away. And I realized she doesn't have a diaper on.
Mall
She's hot.
Rory
I'm like, when I turned around before. Yeah, she had a diaper on.
Mall
Where's the diaper?
Rory
So I then fully turn around, and, you know, my living room and kitchen, white couches. I turn all the way around, look past the island, kitchen, and I can see a dragged diaper from basically where the window is.
Mall
Yeah. Of course.
Rory
Across the whole carpet, just a stain.
Mall
Nice.
Rory
All the way. So she took her diaper off, and I didn't see it. I'm just going by the evidence. The splatter. What are those cops call when they. When they do the blood splatter?
Mall
You didn't need a black light.
Rory
No. All the lights could have been off, and I could see that shit. Dragged it all the way across my carpet.
Mall
Yeah.
Rory
So then I.
Mall
Well, you have a very nice car. Very soft. So she probably.
Rory
You know, when I moved in, Amara. This was, like, two years before Amara even existed. In my balls.
Mall
Yeah.
Rory
So I bought white couches.
Mall
Yeah.
Rory
White carpet. Like, everything looked like Belly.
Mall
A museum. Yeah.
Rory
And didn't my mom kept saying, like, you should probably get couch covers and, like, do something different. Like, mom, what do you know?
Mall
Yeah.
Rory
So I then turn the burner down, run over to try to get the carpet cleaner. And while I'm doing that, I turn over, and Amara is dragging her naked ass across the couch cushions. So there's now a streak going on the couch from cushion to cushion. She's a little Picasso, and, like, she likes to jump on the couch, and she thought it was hilarious. Anytime Dad's freaking out and frantic, she just starts giggling.
Mall
Yeah.
Rory
So she's jumping on the couch, like, and landing on her butt.
Mall
Yeah.
Rory
Because that's what she does on the trampoline on the couch. But she still has a shitty ass. So now there's just streaks of shit all over my white couch.
Mall
Oh, man.
Damaris
I would have started crying. Did you start crying?
Rory
No, no. Remember, like, drastic things don't bother me. Like, I started laughing. I didn't even like you once it happened. I was like, what else are you.
Mall
Going to do in that moment? You have to laugh.
Rory
I was like, you know what? Let me just burn this place down.
Mall
Like, yeah, get your toys. We're torching the.
Rory
That doesn't bother me. Like I said, like, when the train doors close in my face and there's one, two minutes behind, that makes me cry. But that. No, I'm gonna laugh.
Mall
Yeah.
Rory
I don't know why I'm that way.
Mall
You have to laugh at that. What else are you going.
Rory
And, like, what? I'm like, yell at a toddler.
Mall
Yeah. Like, how did she learn that?
Rory
I don't know.
Mall
Where did she get that from taking the diaper. And then my ass across the.
Rory
I've seen a lot of.
Mall
Maybe Baisley, she got it from Basley.
Rory
Maybe Bayes used to. She got better. But when Baze was a puppy, she used to, like, do that dog drag your ass thing.
Mall
Yeah. She got it from Bey. All the time she's acting like, Baze dog a little fur brother.
Rory
And it was like, not one of those, like, nice, cute, like, toddler poops. Like, it was one of those toddler shits that look like she drives a Mack truck and only eats a McDonald's. Like, it was a truck driver.
Mall
Oh, my God. I like it.
Rory
Like, I know what I fed you. She wanted to add color to the Dino nuggets. Don't do this.
Mall
That's not Dino.
Rory
How the. That's not.
Mall
That is not Dino nuggets. Somebody gave us something she wasn't supposed to have.
Rory
So I'm. I'm telling Kia this on the phone when I'm driving to the city, and Kia goes, why didn't you take a picture? I was like, you think. You think that was on my mind at the time?
Mall
Yeah. No, it definitely wasn't. Grabbing my phone, trying to.
Rory
She's dying. Laughing like, you didn't take video picture.
Mall
I was like, no, I'm trying to.
Rory
Stop bacon grease popping off.
Mall
No, the grabbing the phone was not in my plans.
Rory
Yeah. But you know, I wish I would have that Uber driver. Oh, that's father could have taken a mark.
Mall
Oh, my God, thank you.
Rory
Well, no, I mean, Amara in my face before, so.
Mall
Yeah.
Rory
And I got everything out of the carpet.
Mall
Yeah.
Rory
I have, like, the high powered vacuum with the solution. It actually looks better now.
Mall
Yes.
Rory
That's all reminding me, like, hey, I.
Mall
Knew you had to clean the carpet in the couch. There you go.
Rory
But anyways, we're here, we're back.
Mall
What's up, Baby D?
Rory
What's poppin?
Mall
How you feeling?
Damaris
I'm feeling good. You know, I'm here with y' all now. Making my day.
Mall
Making my day downtown Walking fast, paces passing, I'm homebound. Listen, listen, listen.
Rory
Rory Toilet bound.
Mall
I just want to say, last week you said something on the pod about the Knicks and where they would be during for the series. Today you were wrong. But what. But if they're hearing this, what are your predictions while they're hearing this? Because we're recording this on a Thursday.
Rory
Yes, it is afternoon Thursday, May 29th.
Mall
The Knicks play tonight. What are we going to be talking about next. Next week? Are the Knicks still in it? Is it over? What's going on?
Rory
I've. I was trying to not be the pessimistic person I am. Lifelong Knicks fan, been through everything. I know how everything's going to end up. But we try to stay optimistic.
Mall
Yeah.
Rory
And I came in here. Nixon won.
Mall
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Rory
Like I was, you know.
Mall
Yeah.
Rory
The way the Pacers are playing.
Mall
Yeah. Not gonna happen.
Rory
No. But you know what's gonna piss me off more? I truly think the Knicks are going to win tonight. Just to give me hope and then lose. Like, I don't think the Knicks are going to win this year. I do not think that at all. But I think they're going to win tonight just to give all of us some false hope over the weekend and. Yeah, just. Just to crush us more.
Mall
I feel that way, too. I feel like the Knicks. If you listen in, the Knicks have won Game 5, and they're on their way back to Indiana for Game 6, where they'll get absolutely annihilated. They just want to keep New Yorkers on edge. Just a few more days and give us some hope.
Rory
Dude, I. I hope I'm wrong, but I'm not. I'm going to be pessimistic because maybe that'll be better because I. I'm jinxing us. I think that we're going to lose tonight, too. It's over, man.
Mall
No, man, I don't think so. I think they win tonight.
Damaris
I think we win tonight. We might not win the series, but we.
Mall
I think they win tonight. I think they win tonight. I'm going to say they win by 11 tonight.
Rory
Is Halberton the greatest basketball player that's ever existed?
Mall
He sure looks like it.
Damaris
They calling him the Halloween was fucking.
Rory
I've never recently seen a playoff performance like that. Yeah, like, even if the stats don't match, like, I'm sure there's a Steph Curry stat that smokes that, a KD one. But just the energy of, like, anytime there's momentum, Halliburton will find a way to kill that momentum. Like a stat that you cannot really put on paper. He's the best at.
Mall
I think that Halliburton is a very good player. I think he's one of the best young players that the NBA has. I do feel like for some reason, just over the years of watching basketball, I don't know what it is about the Knicks, but other good point guards have great games against the Knicks. They always do. I think ever since Stephon Marbury said he was the greatest like, point guard in the league. Remember when Steph said that years ago and then like every, like Eric Snow gave him 30 the night after that or some shit.
Rory
First of all, don't do that. Eric Snow was an amazing point guard.
Mall
He was. But Eric Snow wasn't a scoring point guard.
Rory
No, he might have. He was there to bring the ball up, to give it to AI. Yeah, but he did it in a great way.
Mall
No, he did it a great. He was a. A phenomenal player, but he wasn't offensive minded. I. I don't know what it is about the Knicks. Every point guard plays great, has career games against the New York Knicks.
Rory
Do you think it was because Steph said that or when he put Vaseline on his face? I'm trying to pinpoint it after he said that. May have solidified it, though.
Mall
Yeah, but no, it wasn't. He was eating Vicks, right? Was it Vicks?
Rory
We pull that up, Josh.
Mall
It was vac.
Rory
He was eating it and then he put it on his.
Mall
He had a sore throat or something like that. I think he said. Yeah. I don't know what to take us with that.
Rory
That's some project that that remedy wasn't in my house.
Mall
One of the greatest point shout out to Stepan Marbury. But I think the Knicks win tonight.
Rory
You ever been around West Indians that call it Vaslon?
Mall
Yes.
Rory
That is hilarious to me. I get like, you're sounding it out.
Mall
I get it. You're reading it.
Rory
That is fast.
Mall
Out with that. It's Vaseline. Yeah, that.
Rory
Yo, that was the craziest Vaseline ad of all time.
Mall
Yeah, yeah.
Rory
They should have. In this era, I think they would have capitalized on it because you have social media and everything.
Mall
Yeah.
Rory
But at this time, it Was a marketing nightmare. And wasn't he dissing Jay Z through this whole thing? Wasn't this like his Jay Z dis.
Mall
I don't remember.
Rory
Can we find the video? Because we can't get a copywriting for that. There's no way he has that shoot.
Mall
Yeah, I can't remember if he was dissing J in that. Take some Vaseline.
Rory
This is sick.
Mall
And swallow it. I promise. You don't have to do that.
Rory
Yeah. Mad other ways. But that would. That was like a 30 minute video too. I know. That was like the. The clip.
Mall
Yeah.
Rory
But I feel like that was an entire Jay Z dis while he was.
Mall
Doing that shout out to Stephen. Stephen at a lot of the Knicks games. And then like not giving him no camera time.
Rory
Like they were like the first round.
Mall
I felt after all the other like, Nick. Nick players that are there. Bernard King is getting more camera time than Stephon Mar.
Rory
That's wild.
Mall
What do we like? Steph deserves more camera shout out to Steph Army.
Rory
Yeah. They put him right behind the hoop for the playoffs. I think in the beginning and towards the end of the season, he was getting a lot of that. Yeah, Steph is a legend. I mean, I know he was going through something here, but I mean, listen, man, he put sneakers to every New York City high school. Like, Steph is a icon.
Mall
I was at that All Star. The greatest All Star game ever.
Rory
When the one when T. Mac threw it off the backboard. That one.
Mall
I don't know if that was the same one.
Rory
To me, that was my favorite NBA All Star game.
Mall
2001, Washington D.C. oh, when Hov took it. I mean, when he said, is that your bitch? No, that.
Rory
And that. That inspired him to get on that record.
Mall
But I was at that game and Steph was actually the reason why the east came back and won that game.
Rory
Am I thinking of 01? What was the one when Iverson did that. That and laid it up and then T. Mac threw it off the backboard?
Mall
That was 2001, I believe.
Rory
Yeah, that was. That was the greatest. That's the greatest All Star game. And it's not even close.
Mall
2001, Washington, Washington D.C. steady. Had Steph and Iverson in the backcourt together.
Rory
2002. Okay. 2002, I love. Which was the one that. That Jordan was with the Wizards.
Mall
Well, it had to be 01.
Rory
Yeah. Okay, 01 and 02 back to back were some of the greatest ever. And was that the year, like Jason Richardson was dominating the probably dunk contest. I miss like those All Star weekends. Yeah, that was when the was really fun. Not just everyone shooting 15,000 threes from half court.
Mall
Yeah. The game is. It's changed a lot. But shout out to the Knicks. I think they went tonight. Win game five. Go back to.
Rory
I don't know, man. Damaris came in and she was like, I'm not sure. Like, maybe I'll grab a last minute Beyonce ticket. But I do want to watch the Knicks. I was like, damaris, go see. Go see Beyonce.
Mall
Go, Damaris. It's not even.
Rory
You'll be fine.
Mall
It's not even. It's not comparable. Go see queen bee. Have fun. You can check the score on your phone, but it's not going to be nothing to. To watch. I do think they'll win, but Beyonce over the Knicks. Absolutely.
Rory
And, like, we'll text you the score.
Mall
Yeah.
Rory
And I guarantee you won't even be looking at your phone.
Damaris
Well, you know what's crazy? I actually like watching the games now. Like, I've become like a fan. I've never was a fan of basketball. I was always a football fan, but basketball was boring to me. But, like, I don't know, like these. This little series I've been watching, I'm invested.
Rory
I think it's because it's a conference finals.
Mall
I think this little series, it's New York.
Damaris
I think it's because I've become attached to New York because of you guys. Right. So I've become like, kind of like a Knicks fan. Like, I know.
Mall
What do you mean? You're from New York?
Rory
Yeah. You're from New York. New York. Yeah.
Damaris
But I never was a basketball fan, so I never watched. Like, the only time I would really watch basketball, it would be like Golden State when Steph was like, on his crazy, crazy run. And I would watch it and I'm like, oh, this is interesting. But now I'm actually invested in the players. Like, I was calling Mitchell Robinson a bum the other day. Like, I was like, bothered me. I was like, I'm like, invested, you know?
Mall
Okay, yeah, I respect that.
Rory
I was in the barbershop yesterday, and for some reason, I have the only barber shop in the Lower east side where every barber is not a Knicks fan. Just straight, like, just Nick hater.
Mall
Les M. Willis.
Rory
Willis is from Queens. I do not understand.
Mall
How is that possible?
Rory
Why he's a. Like, he's like a Celtics fan or some weird.
Mall
Oh, my God. You can't be a New Yorker and be a Celtics fan. Yeah, that's blasphemy.
Rory
Or everyone just Legit. Anytime I walk in, all they want to do is just. Even when we're doing good, just on the Knicks, to me, because they know it's going to get a rise out of me. They know I'm going to react. They know I'm going to be emotional. Then I'm going to start screaming. And they triggered me again.
Mall
You know what the bad thing about this. And we can get off the Knicks. And I'm pretty sure people don't want to hear us talk about it, but it's that time of the year. Probably never see another Eastern Conference finals for a very long time. Well, no, I'm just being honest. The toughest thing about this, watching this is. This is the Knicks roster for the next few years.
Rory
Okay.
Mall
They cannot make any moves.
Rory
So why I brought up my barbershop is because they asked me. After clowning me, they said they should break up the entire team. And I was like, that's been the Knicks problem my entire life.
Mall
Yeah.
Rory
Is anytime we sort of have a team, we completely break it up and go try to get another superstar and build around. Like, we have the squ. I don't want any really, like, any trades, really. We need a bench, but I'm away from. I'm really cool with our starting five.
Mall
Like, away from the bench. The Knicks need a new coach.
Rory
As much as I love Mitchell Roberts, like, and it pissed me off when demerris said something foul about him. If we got a different big man, it wouldn't be the end of the world to me. But we can't. Our heart and soul. Josh Hart. We can't get rid of.
Mall
No. I don't think they have plans on doing that.
Rory
Already broke up the Nova. Knicks.
Mall
Yeah. No, I don't think they'll do that.
Rory
If we had the healthy squad that we had last year.
Mall
No.
Rory
That were healthy, we would. It may be a closer series right now.
Mall
We'll see. Man, I got him. I got him winning tonight, though.
Damaris
Who. Who did y' all. Who do y' all have this year that y' all didn't have last year?
Rory
What's. What's my man's. They told what, Tall white guy. Yeah. Hardenstein. I couldn't figure out if he was Jewish or not.
Mall
He's in the finals.
Rory
And DiVincenzo. Anytime we needed a shot, like, the way. The way Brunson for the last two games has not really been as consistent. I feel like DiVincenzo would have filled that void the way he did last year when Brunson was a Little cold.
Mall
Yeah.
Rory
Like, we just don't have that.
Mall
No, the Knicks just don't have the coach. Tibbs is. Is a good coach, but he's. He's so set in his ways. He doesn't make the right adjustments, proper adjustments. It's just. I don't think it's going to work. I think. I think I do see them getting rid of Tibs at the end of the season. Yeah, I see it happening.
Rory
If that double. I mean, I'm getting back to my Nick fandom, but if that double dribble is called in game one and there isn't a magnet in the hoop, there's a different series because that we should.
Mall
Yeah, there's no magnet. It's a whole different.
Rory
I'm telling you, game two, three, everything else is debatable. And I'm fine. Indiana went cool. I'll play that game one. That set the tone. That was a game we should have fucking won.
Mall
Yeah.
Rory
Like, that was it. And that. That killed us. And then game two was like, all right. The.
Mall
Well, it's all good. We'll see. I got them winning tonight, so hopefully they get the job done. And we'll talk about game six and what happens then next week.
Rory
Is there. Is there tick. Is it too late tonight? Yeah.
Mall
Tickets.
Rory
I mean, that is true.
Mall
You'll be sitting underneath Willis Reed's jersey, but.
Rory
Or, or, or paying ten grand.
Mall
Yeah, either, either, either, either. Or. It's your choice.
Rory
Somebody had posted, and I promise we're getting off the Knicks. Someone posted that the Knicks were going to put this up and I'll send it to you. Peach. This is going to be the new banner.
Mall
We beat the Boston Celtics in the second round.
Rory
I could see that happen, hanging this up at the end of the season.
Mall
Look at Josh. Josh is hanging his hat on that one.
Rory
What do we say on this pod? I said if we beat the Celtics, like, I'm kind of cool, man.
Mall
That's the championship.
Rory
Because we weren't supposed to beat them. So, you know, it is what it is. But anyways, back to, like, actual potting.
Mall
Yes.
Rory
Mall.
Mall
What's up, man?
Rory
Talk to me, because I'm already compromised by the Bardi gang.
Mall
Yeah.
Rory
Now I'm now part of it because we spoke. So anything that she ever does is going to be amazing to me. I'm even gonna say, like, that's probably one of my closest friends now. If you think about it, like.
Damaris
Yeah. If you really think about it.
Rory
Yeah. I mean, you know, Amar's got new godmother now. Pretty Much. What do you have to say about her current situationship? I don't know if they're. They're a fish.
Mall
I told you. No, I'm just.
Rory
That's why I was waiting for you.
Mall
To interrupt me and say, no, no, no, no, no. So. So obviously the clip of Stephon Diggs on the boat talking to the women and, you know, doing whatever he's doing, whatever conversation they were having, we just saw people have been hitting me like, yo, ma, you called this. You said this was going to happen. I'm here to say this is not what I was saying would happen. This is totally different.
Rory
Definitely not.
Mall
He's on the. Cardi was actually on the boat with him. They were partying together. So this just looks like it was a party. You know, the girl who he's seemingly dating was with him at the party. It seems like two people just having fun, enjoying each other, enjoying beautiful women having a good time on a boat. This isn't. Now, if Cardi wasn't on this boat and we got this footage and then, you know, then it's like, yo, where Cardi at? But she's on a boat with him having fun, enjoying the festivities and, you know, doing what girls do when they own boats. Dancing, drinking, having a good time. So this is not. This is not. I don't think this is what people, you know, it's not what people are trying to make it seem.
Rory
I'll start by saying when I use the term hoes, it's not individually. I don't know any of these women.
Mall
Yeah.
Rory
I'm not even assuming. Not specific, but in the English language, in 2025, the moment a group of women go on a boat, they're just grouped in. They was on the. They was on the boat with some hoes. Yeah, boats and hoes doesn't mean you're individually a hoe. But now when you all get together, there's some hoes in the boat.
Damaris
A group of A goose alone is a goose, but a group of gooses, them is geese.
Mall
Them is geese. Them is geese. So you can't go to Bella. No. Chase, baby.
Rory
Where else can you go?
Mall
Where else can you go?
Rory
I'm. If Mother Teresa walked onto a boat in Miami, she is now part of the hoes. I'm not saying like a virgin. Anyone could go up there. The Virgin Mary, pre Jesus.
Mall
Yeah.
Rory
You become one of the hoes when you enter a mini yacht in Miami. Now what I see this as is the greatest post breakup situation ever, especially for Stefon Diggs. There's nothing better than when your girl loves the hoes just as much as you do.
Mall
Nothing like it.
Rory
Everyone's talking about those. Those girls touching his chains or whatever. They was bumping butts with Cardi.
Mall
Yeah, that.
Rory
That is a power couple on that boat. Listen, man, they are MCs. They are the master of ceremony, controlling the entire vibe right now.
Mall
Yes, you need that. You need that energy. Look at that.
Rory
This is a couple that is in tune. They know what's going on.
Mall
A lot of love on that boat. There was a lot of love.
Rory
A lot of good, beautiful women that look like they have great personalities as well.
Damaris
Man, Cardi, call me great.
Mall
Call me, man. Such great times.
Damaris
I need to be on the boat. People were writing me like, aha, Damaris. Ma proved you wrong. I said, no, Ma proved me right. And actually, I'm trying to be on the boat. What are y' all. What are y' all talking about?
Rory
You need somebody to pick the fenders up? I got you.
Mall
I think the people that were saying that was just the people that didn't realize Cardi was on.
Damaris
No, they were. They were. Some people are really stupid. They were like, look, he's even doing it in front of her. He's so disrespectful. I'm like, oh, y' all dumb.
Mall
Yeah, they don't get it.
Damaris
Y' all don't get it. We all having fun. Y' all don't get that. That life.
Mall
I just want to say, you know, let's. Let's just think about and pray for Offset. First of all, nothing hurts more than losing your wife and then seeing her have fun with, you know, one of the top players in the NFL and with the most doing the things that you could have been doing with her, but you chose to do away from her and behind her back.
Rory
Yeah.
Mall
Just keep it real with your lady sometimes, man. That's all you gotta do is keep it real with your girl sometimes, man.
Rory
And I'm not saying this is about Offset or Cardi, but I've been there before where you fumble the girl that also liked the hoes. And it's like how you fumble the girl that likes hoes for hoes when you could have hoed with her with the hoes.
Damaris
Oh, y' all want me to get into that conversation?
Rory
Because that one's rough, man.
Damaris
A lot of times people think they want the girl that likes the hoes, but men like cheating and, like, a.
Rory
Lot of cheating, like, situationship types.
Damaris
Okay, I'm like, a lot of what Men like about cheating is just, you know, going off that situation. Men like the. The mystery and, like, the sneakiness part of it. That's part of it for them. The game and the fun. So if you can just, like, have the bitches around me, it ain't fun no more.
Rory
Yes, I guess. But going after the hoes with your girl is top two, and it's not too. There is nothing better.
Damaris
I agree.
Rory
Hanging with the hoes with your girl, and she's. She's actually into the hoes more than you are. Like, you got to tell her to chill for a second when you fumble that. That's a rough one.
Mall
It's a rough night.
Rory
So Offset did try to reply with a video of him with the hoes. I could see the blank stare in his face. Yo, album done on the way. It don't.
Mall
It don't hit the same.
Rory
Nah, because just wait till Cardi B is in that. That suite with Robert Kraft come. Come September.
Mall
Oof. Yeah, that's gonna be a.
Rory
That's definitely a rough.
Mall
That's. That's a rough one. That's a rough one to get over, man.
Rory
And you know why? I know Stephon Diggs might be the sickest human being ever. Can you pull that video up of him again? You're not about to tell me one of the better receivers in the NFL that does double moves has some of the best field vision I have seen. Can get by outside linebackers, safeties. Did not realize that that camera was on him. No, he knew for a fact. He probably angled that. That video.
Mall
No, he knew the camera was there. You always know when the cameras are. When you're, you know, a high profile person. You know, what a camera.
Rory
But I saw a bunch of people saying, yo, this is sloppy. How you not see the camera? I said, oh, he saw the camera. He. He can see the quarterback through.
Mall
The double.
Rory
12 men on the field.
Mall
One of y' all not supposed to be out here.
Rory
Yeah, yeah, no, he. He has field's vision.
Mall
Yeah, man.
Rory
He knew what time it was.
Mall
Listen, man, as long as Cardi is having fun, you know, it's all good, man. Shout out to Cardi. We obviously love and support Cardi. Big Bronx.
Rory
I didn't even listen to the conversation. I just watched the video. Was anything compelling being said? Because that girl started.
Damaris
She called him Stefan or something, and he was like, what's my name? She was like. She's like, you got to call him daddy. You got to call him Daddy.
Mall
Yo, when the hoes.
Rory
How could you even Hate.
Mall
Listen, when the hoes call you daddy right there, and she ain't tripping, you look over and she twerking and she's.
Rory
Saying, yeah, no.
Mall
That'S when you're supposed to just get on your knees and say, yo, thank you, God. It's only God could do this. Only God has brought us to this day. It's only God. It's a higher power. It's not me. It's God that did this and brought us here today.
Rory
Absolutely. Lord, what did I do to receive all these?
Mall
What did I do? How did I. How. How does this happen? But thank you, God. But, yeah, man, shout out to Cardi, man. She look like she's having fun and she deserves it.
Rory
You know, I think we get on this Offset album, which, again, I didn't even, like, look more into it of when he said it was coming.
Mall
It doesn't matter, Rory.
Rory
I think we get our first, like, full blown Offset lyrical rap record of him talking about the relationship. I think he's gonna use that. I think he's gonna use that. No, no, no, I'm not. I'm not saying the whole album. No, no, God, no. Not the last. I think we'll get one record that is dedicated and he's gonna pull some. Some man, which we all have done before, where he is going to make himself be the victim, of course, and say every. Basically, I'll sum it up. He was the one that quoted it, y' all. 1.
Mall
How long you think before Offset gives us the video? You know, every rapper gotta give us the video of them walking into the church, the big empty church, by themselves. Sitting in the front. Sitting in the front, getting they verse off, you know, rapping from the pulpit. You know, every rapper gotta give us that. You think Offset gives us one of those this album?
Rory
I think he sits. I think we get that as a trailer. And then I think he sits with Speedy and tries to give off the I'm healed aura. And, like, I'm just focused on my kids right now. I'm focused on being a better person. Like, he's going to give us that. That entire vibe.
Mall
Yeah.
Rory
And then by the next album, it'll be right back to the fuck shit.
Mall
Oh, yeah, you know, that gets a new hot, hot girlfriend.
Rory
I think, you know, mental health will be thrown in the conversation. Therapy will be growing.
Mall
Oh, immediately going to therapy, you know.
Rory
That I, you know, I think a possible addiction, but it's not really named what it is, is going to be in there. Could be addicted to the life. I'M not saying it's going to be drugs.
Mall
No, no.
Rory
He's going to find something to add an addiction to. I mean, I know this rule out and I'm not mad at it. It works every time.
Mall
It works, it works. And shout out to Offset man. Hopefully, you know, he's, he's happy, he's enjoying life, he's having fun. And you know, it is what it is. Sometimes you got to go through these types of things. It hurts. It hurts seeing it. It hurts opening your phone and seeing your girl having a great time. But you know, hopefully he's good.
Rory
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Rory
Breaking. Breaking. Breaking in real time. Look at God. The same way Stephan was saying, look. Look at. Look at the Lord. Inshallah, Peach put our breaking music right here. It seems that Offset has just filed for spousal support, which I guess is like another word for alimony. Is that what spousal support is?
Mall
Like a true king.
Rory
Listen, man, I love Mary J, but let's keep things balanced and equal.
Mall
Yeah, why not?
Rory
I kind of respect you.
Mall
I mean, I don't disrespect it, but I don't know if I respect it. I'm kind of in. I'm. I'm in. I'm indecisive on Howard because it's just breaking.
Rory
It's like it's something that I. Well, let me not say something. I've never been in that position, so let me not say that. But I would feel weird doing that. But I don't know. I mean, men get God every day.
Mall
No, listen, I'm. I'm all for, you know, both parents should support and take care of the children.
Rory
No, I think this is. This is like alimony shit.
Mall
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Rory
That has nothing to do with children.
Mall
Yeah, this is. This is spousal support. This is. You know, it's Offset is accustomed to.
Rory
A certain lifestyle that Cardi B clearly helps support as well. We already know offset is fine financially. Cardi B is definitely fine financially, but he's. He's used that lifestyle, so you gotta.
Mall
Help him maintain it.
Rory
Yes. That's how. That's how the court works.
Mall
You want to bow with your new boo? I'm in the courtroom. Found documents.
Rory
Also one of my favorite. Chris. I'll get back when he said, what the is a customer. When I go to a restaurant, I'm accustomed to eating. When I leave, I'm not eating again. What the is accustomed. Yeah, but I mean, I. I hope that doesn't get too. Too messy. Just. Just based off, you know, they got kids and all that. But sometimes I think just a clean break and everyone going their separate ways is the better.
Mall
It's always, yeah, well, you have to.
Rory
Spend money to do this. And, like, now you're just doing out of spite. And, like, is that really gonna help? Because I don't think Offset needs the money.
Mall
No, I don't think he needs them.
Rory
This is a way. You know, there's been plenty of times where women will do that with men that have a lot of money because they don't have a job. I sort of get that.
Mall
Yeah.
Rory
But, nah, just clean break and make this easy, because now y' all want to just get messy so you can meet up in court.
Mall
That'd be the. That'd be the whack part. Like, when you want to just go to court to see.
Rory
Yeah. Like, now you just find a way.
Mall
We ain't got to do this, man. Like, just get this case out of here.
Rory
Let's split up all our assets. Yo, if you paid for this, keep it. If I paid for it, keep it.
Mall
Like. Like, either way, the kids are gonna be very well taken care of. We know that, but. Yeah, this is where things can start to get very, very messy and play. And when you start bringing courts and lawyers into the mix, that's when things go left. And, you know, that's when the IG lives start to happen. Well, it's already happened, but that's when it gets even messier and we start finding out that, you know, somebody has ED and with the shit, we don't need to know, you know what I mean? Like, you know, women can't wait to go there.
Damaris
Like, you know, you know what's so crazy? I really thought you meant an eating disorder. And then it clicked that you were not talking about that.
Mall
No, I'm definitely not talking about an eating disorder.
Rory
Oh, pause. I think Cardi was saying he had the opposite of that because he was like, fucking a bunch of women.
Mall
I saw a woman tweeted yesterday. It was a tweet album in my Twitter at like 3 in the morning. And I saw this tweet and it was funny, but I kind of went there. I had to like, start reading the comments because I was like, all right, let me see what women think about this. And she said, actually, I have it. I think I saved it.
Rory
Hold on. While you look for that, I do want to be like a hip hop blog writer in my retirement. This is from Hot New Hip Hop When I typed in Offset new album. Currently the untitled third album will be Offset's first new solo release since 2023. That album featured several artists, including two appearances from Cardi B. It's very unlikely that she'll be around for this new one just getting paid for nothing. Just. Just saying a bunch of fucking nothing. Despite. Despite that Offset knows how to make an album his fans will enjoy. And it's hard to think that the next one will be any different. I want to be a blog writer so bad.
Mall
All right? So I found. I found a tweet so I won't say her name because she probably doesn't, you know, want to be put out there like that. But she says, I think men that can't stop cheating are gay, right?
Rory
So I feel like this is your burner account.
Mall
It's funny you say that, because I felt like that's some I would say, right? So I'm like. So it caught my eye. I start. I immediately started laughing. So I said, no, no, no, because I know the comments. I know it's other women in there going crazy. Sure enough, I go to the comments. One woman says, being overly hypersexual gives. You'll let a man hit.
Damaris
Yeah, agreed.
Mall
The. The lady with the. That originally posted response to that. It says, it gives. They're trying to prove they aren't gay. Whole time, the word. The word be written all over. So I was waiting to see the first man respond. Man says, so you saying a nigga gay cause he keep cheating on you with pussy. I ain't gonna fake. This don't make no sense. Now imagine reading that at three in the morning. I was in the bed. Because I'm like, I was waiting to see the first because the women was in there. Yeah, girl, I got stories. And I was like, okay, I get it. All right. I'm scrolling, looking for the first man that's gonna jump in on this conversation. Because I thought I was like, well, you can't really say a man is gay because he can't stop cheating. Like, you can't say. I get.
Rory
He's probably trying to fill a void in his life.
Mall
I get how to void.
Rory
That is not being gay.
Damaris
The void of dick. That's void of dick. That's what he's trying to feel. You fudge too many bitches. And I start believing that you try. I feel like you try to convince yourself you like pussy. Like, it's like, me, I really like pickles. But, like, I keep trying pickles to see if one day I'm like pickles because everybody else like pickles. And I think that's what he doing with pussy.
Mall
Yeah, but no, baby, do you say.
Rory
That'S like, shit, that sounds good on Twitter until you break it down like that genius gentleman just did. Now, like, are you about. Like, let me break this down. You're telling me because he fucks a lot of women, that means that he's gay?
Mall
Yeah, like, that's.
Rory
That just like, the man just doesn't add.
Mall
The man jumped in there with logical thoughts, like, okay, so he's gay because he can't stop having sex with a woman. Like, this don't make no sense.
Rory
He definitely has some issues he needs to deal with. I just don't think gay is one of.
Mall
I'm with you on that. I'm just not gonna land on gay.
Rory
There probably is men in the world that have small, small percentage that try to women because they're trying to convince themselves not to be gay. But I think a serial cheater on average probably just likes pussy that much or likes the quest of trying to fuck new pussy. Yeah, like, I don't. That's a gayness. And also saying a bunch of that's.
Damaris
Gayness is funny as fuck.
Rory
Also saying, yo, if you a bunch of women, that means you'll let a man hit. Please break down that logic.
Mall
Yeah, that I can't. I can, baby D. I can't get my.
Damaris
Well, I think. Okay, so what I'm. What I am saying is I think they're talking about really, really hypersexual men. Like, y' all get a lot of. And y' all have both cheated. So y' all. I Know y' all can kind of relate, but y' all is not even.
Rory
On mic right now. Don't do that.
Damaris
I don't think y' all know the. I mean, I'm sure y' all do know them, but, like, women, like, we see certain, like, hypersexual to the point where you two. A day. Something like, every day, something's wrong.
Rory
I agree. Something is wrong there. I'm not. But I don't think.
Mall
Yeah, we're just not landing on gay. No, there's a lot you miss.
Rory
There's a lot of women love with that.
Mall
Straight to girl, he gay. Like, wait, there's a million other things he could be before he's gay.
Damaris
But if you. If you gotta have sex with different people every single day, multiple different people. Like, I feel like, yeah, you. I feel like you 50 more likely to let. Because, like, you so freaky that you've done everything. Like, you gonna get bored. I feel like dick is next. I don't know. That's just me.
Mall
I feel like dick is next is crazy. You know how crazy that is? A dude that just run around with a bunch of chicks. You gonna let some hit? No, I'm not like. I'm like, hoes. What you mean?
Rory
I think if that's there, he would have let a man hit with or without the amount of that he got. Like, I don't think you just hit like, all right, I. 1500. 1501. I think it's time for some dick. I just don't think that's a thing. I just don't think that's.
Mall
I don't think it happens like that. But I do get what you're saying as far as, like, somebody just being out there and just wanting to, you know, be. Be overly hyper. Least over. Overly sexual. And because it's almost like. Do you like women?
Damaris
Yeah.
Rory
Oh, yeah.
Mall
I mean, like, because you. It seemed like you having sex, it don't seem like you actually like and care about women and their feelings and their emotions and things like that. Like, and we know people like that. They. They have people like, what's up with this, dude?
Damaris
Some have. Some will use your body to masturbate. They use women to masturbate. This is not sex.
Rory
I'm not mad at that. Take it all. I think. I think the super hypersexual guy that does try to fuck two bitches a day. Yeah. I don't think there's any feeling there at that point. It's filling a void. And. Yeah, you're using another vessel to Beat off. Yeah, I'm with that take. I just don't think it's like, now I want a man's booty hole after.
Mall
Like, yeah, we can't just throw.
Rory
I just don't think that's how it works.
Mall
I just. I just thought that tweet was hilarious. And, I mean, the women underneath that, yo, I'm. I couldn't screenshot all of it because I was laughing, but it was women in there going, women out here have been cooked. Like, they done been through some dudes that have cooked this.
Damaris
Y' all really don't understand. Like, that's why when y' all be calling, like, they're like, y' all. You guys are so bitter. I'm like, if y' all went through half the we went through, y' all would not. Like, y' all would understand the that we go through. Like, it's. It's.
Mall
Now, we go through our fair share of things, too, though, baby D. We're not gonna do that.
Damaris
Yes, but y' all don't. It's not.
Mall
Not.
Damaris
It's not as often, and it's not as bad as the. That we go through.
Rory
And why. I love that this podcast advocates for double standards. Like, I've seen women get over so much that they end up going gay. I've never seen a dude just go through it with some women and be like, you know what?
Mall
Yeah. Don't happen like that.
Rory
I think it's time to hop on the dude.
Mall
Yeah. Like, you ain't just turn gay. Like, you. You don't just. Men don't just turn gay.
Rory
No. And I also don't think that, like, women. That a bunch of dudes are doing it because they're hiding their gayness.
Mall
Yeah. No, women. That a bunch of dudes are doing it because they uncle. Touched them when they were a kid.
Damaris
Okay.
Mall
That's usually how that happens.
Rory
Well, a lot of. All right. If we want to get serious hypersexual time, a lot of times that comes from abuses.
Damaris
Again, agree.
Mall
Oh, yeah.
Rory
I'm not.
Mall
I'm not here to. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Yes. I'm being real right now. Yes.
Damaris
Yeah, but you just. You can't just throw like that out. Like, you know what I'm saying?
Mall
Saying, like, y' all could throw a gay if he see, look. That's what I'm saying. We love double standards, baby. Do we support double standards here?
Damaris
But you can't.
Rory
But.
Damaris
Yeah, but you can't just say it like that. Like, you can't Just throw out, like, you know, childhood sexual assault out like that. Like a uno card. Like, you gotta.
Rory
I know. I think for both genders, too, though, it becomes a hypersexual thing for sure.
Damaris
Yeah.
Rory
And I. I still don't subscribe to that. People that were touched become gay, but I think a hypersexual thing goes in their brain when that type of.
Mall
Oh, absolutely.
Rory
You know, I don't know. I just don't know. I'm still just trying to figure out how women would think if you. Too many women, you'd be like, you're gay. No, like, I'll just go find more women, which is wrong.
Mall
It's like, women are women.
Rory
That's a path to destruction.
Damaris
I think it's because. I mean, obviously I'm saying this. I don't really believe that, but I feel like women were tr. I know it may seem emotional, but I feel like they're trying to find some logic in it because they couldn't do it. So they're like, something has to be wrong. Like, you know, so.
Mall
No, the real thing, Baby D, is because.
Damaris
But a lot of these niggas are fighting the bisexuality demon, and that's a fact.
Mall
But we also know because we came in here yesterday.
Rory
Why couldn't it be an angel? We had a conversation. Oh, it's a demon.
Mall
We had a conversation about your friend who the guy sent the picture. And you asked, like, yo, do you think he's. Look how. Just a picture. You think he gay? He can't just be like, but what did you say, 100%. Oh, definitely.
Damaris
He's definitely moving on.
Mall
But I'm just saying, just the fact that women go to that. Because I think that women have enough examples, whether it be firsthand or just by, you know, they just hear about other situations. Y' all know that women go through those types of things where it's like, you be with a guy for years and then find out he's gay. Or you must. You thought he was. He wasn't gay, and he found out, like, yo, nah, he's definitely. He's gay. So y' all go through that. I think that y' all are, like, traumatized. So now any inkling that y' all get, like, you're like, I don't know, girl, he might be gay. Nah, it could be a few other things, but y' all just go straight to gay. But I love it because we love double standards here, so I get it.
Rory
I guess maybe I just, like, need to meet more people. I have not met that Many women that have that experience that the guy that they were talking to ended up being gay. And like, I have a lot of women friends that like, I'm their gay bestie, ironically, and they tell me everything. I don't really have that experience where like a bunch of women I know have talked to a guy and he ended up being gay. Few examples for sure, but I don't know the way women talk about it on Twitter or like, this is like a regular ass thing. And I'm like, I.
Damaris
Is it the type of women you hang around? And I'm being gentle with this. The type of women you hang around.
Rory
I hang out with you. By the way, just before you say.
Damaris
Anything, I know I'm not disrespectful. That's why I'm saying I'm trying to be gentle with this. The type of woman you hang around have better discernment than that because of the type of. We're able to be friends with you because of the way that we grew up. And we just have better eyes for certain things. And we've been. We've seen a little bit more in life, if that makes sense. Some women out here don't really know much about men. They were sheltered from men growing up, told not to be around. Men had strict parents, all of this. So they go out into the world and they don't really know anything about men. And they're discovering on the fly and it's like they don't see certain red flags. You know what I'm saying? They don't, they don't see love bombers, they don't see serial cheaters. They don't see, see people who are just with them. They don't see the bisexuals. They don't see certain stuff because they don't know the red flags. But I don't think that's your friend group.
Rory
Yeah, because even, I mean, we all know statistics are always true because we've all been in polls, right?
Mall
Everyone's got to do.
Rory
Everyone's submitted to a poll before.
Mall
You gotta ask 100 people never had.
Rory
One person ask me to be in a poll. So I don't trust stats. Not one person on earth has asked me to be in a poll.
Damaris
Oh, God.
Rory
In 2020, 4.9% of men in America were gay. I just don't like, think that's matches up with the timeline and what women say of the amount of men that they've dealt with that ended up being gay.
Mall
4.9 of men in America are gay, according to Google. Okay.
Rory
In 2020, you know, the pandemic turned a bunch.
Mall
Oh, yeah. Nothing else to do.
Rory
That might be up to 50.
Mall
Yeah. Yo, the numbers jumping up to 50.
Rory
Bleep it so we don't get demonetized. You have to edit it. Just believe it.
Mall
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Rory
Anyways, I wanted to stay on music. I'm sorry. You didn't say something to Mars?
Damaris
No, I was just. The peach is like, you're stressing him out. Everything you're saying, he has to bleep. Like.
Rory
They'Ll get the joke. I did want to stay on music, though. I don't know how we got on that tangent after Offset announced that he was putting his album out out, which we're all at the edge of our seats for Drugs. The clips. It's. It's fine. If you want to sit this one out, me and Damaris can take this segment. The clips announced. Finally, after teasing this for, like two years.
Mall
This was hard.
Rory
Let God sort them out. July 11th snippet came out on Push's IG. Produced by Pharrell, I believe. I didn't want a sample snitch, but I believe that's a XXYY XX sample. Which if Pharrell is getting in that bag, I am here for that. With reformed coke wraps.
Mall
Yeah.
Rory
God, metaphors with cocaine. I. I cannot wait for this clips album. They did also, which I found interesting. A lot of people use Roc Nation distribution now.
Mall
Yeah, they.
Rory
They didn't dismantle the Roc Nation label itself, but the distribution company that Hove had bought before, he just fused those together. A lot of your favorite independent artists use that distribution company, but never go next to the plane emoji because it's just a distribution thing. You're not signed to Roc Nation. Push and Malice posted a photo the other day in front of the logo in the lobby, and they're using the distribution thing, which makes me say I want my flowers of Push saying, I don't know, like six, seven months ago, they're waiting on a feature. I said, it's either Kendrick or it's Hove. Only reason I thought maybe it's not Hove is because Push is up there with the most hoe features next to Jeezy outside of anyone signed a Rockefeller, of course. I think now maybe he does have a Kendrick and a hoe feature on this clip song.
Mall
Can't both.
Rory
I. I'm gonna go out on a limb as a fan. I'm speaking this into existence. I have no knowledge at all. I know for a fact in my Brain. Without any evidence that there is a Kendrick Lamar one. If you saw Push, Push flew to Boston to go see Kendrick. Push is from Virginia. Just to see then the hate. I know he was. They were writing the record while Kendrick was on stage. That's happening.
Mall
Trauma bonding.
Rory
Is it trauma bonding? Because technically, by public opinion, both of them won.
Mall
Yeah, but y' all both. Y' all both don't like the same person, so let's link up together.
Rory
But they've linked up before. They. Before either of them, of course, beefed with Drake. They had an amazing.
Mall
This is different.
Rory
This one we can throw a little sauce.
Mall
Yeah, this is like, oh, we hate you. Hate him.
Rory
Yeah. No, we can step on the grave.
Mall
I can't stand that light skinned rapping ass singing ass. House music making ass 10 certified.
Rory
I would love Push on some. Some house music. I think Push would kill some house music. But yeah, I do think there is a Kendrick verse. I think with this Rock Nation distro, we may. May get hov. I think HOV is mumbling some lines right before they turn it in. It is May 29th. We're going July 11th. He's got about a week or two. I think he's mumbling lines right now.
Mall
We only know if Jay is. Is rapping, if he's wearing jewelry.
Rory
Has there been any spottings of him on the Cowboy Carter tour? Have they been cutting? Okay, I haven't been no jewelry.
Damaris
Damn.
Rory
To me, that would mean he's writing.
Mall
No.
Rory
Okay.
Mall
Yeah. Jay don't. He not rap. He not rapping. He not in the booth.
Rory
What if it's done already then now when he.
Mall
But we didn't see him with no jury in the last few months.
Rory
He could have had it on the house.
Mall
You know, when Jay. When Jay starts acting like a rapper, like, you see it, he gonna bring out a chain that you niggas can afford.
Rory
Yeah. Now that I think about it, when he did the.
Mall
He gonna wear a watch that they thought was. Went down on the Titanic. You know what I mean?
Rory
No, it did.
Mall
Yeah, it did. Like, they went and got it like, that's the submarine.
Rory
Didn't make it. The watch was the only thing that made it.
Mall
The watch made it back up. Yeah, like, that's the shit that Jay gonna do. Do to let you know, like, are you back in the booth? You acting like a rapper. You already.
Rory
Now that I think about it, when he. He did the God did verse that day, there was a lot of photos of him leaving the Roc Nation. And I do remember going, like, That's a lot of. Like, you wear that big chain to meetings, telling you to meetings.
Mall
That's his thing. He goes. He goes in the booth, he puts on the jury the one of one that y' all. Y' all none. None of you rappers can't. Will never have this. And then he goes in the booth and shows you why he's the greatest of all time.
Rory
I mean, but him and Beyonce did do that album on tour. Trying to think, nah, Guru's back in Jersey.
Mall
There's no J verse now.
Rory
I'm saying Guru did come home early from that vacation.
Mall
I'm not saying that he may not, you know, July 11th. He's still got time to turn into verse.
Rory
And he does have jewelry.
Mall
We know that. He just hasn't been wearing it. That's all. That's all.
Rory
All right, somebody go get Hova watching a ring.
Mall
I'm just. No, he got it already. He's not wearing it. He's not wearing it until he's rapping. Now, if we see him in the next couple weeks and he's on vacation, you know, he's at the. At the Cowboy Carter shows, and, you know, he's. He's. He's. He's walking like a rapper, and he's went then, you know, like. Oh, yeah. Like, he's. He's back in the booth.
Rory
The only way I think it would really stop him is that he's given Push two verses already. And I know it's the clips. I know it's different, reunion, everything. And like Malice, his verse on Push's last album, was one of the best verses of the year. Like, we know Malice is in shape. I could only see him hesitating because he's done a lot of Pusher, which he doesn't usually do unless you're a part of his company.
Mall
Right.
Rory
But now that they are.
Mall
No, I get how you sign it in. I see that. But we won't know for sure until we see some, and we.
Rory
I know Push to be a very smart human being outside of a writer, just a very, very calculated, smart person. He not taking that photo in front of that logo just because they're doing a distro deal. That was a. All right, I got the. I got the feature, or it's alluding to it.
Damaris
The caption says, in partnership with Roc Nation.
Rory
Yeah, they're distro company.
Damaris
Yeah, I know. I get.
Rory
He's not signed to them. It's distroship. But. But I'm telling you, there's a million artists that you wouldn't even know that. Use the same distribution company. They don't even. They're not even invited. And they're just as big as the clips. They're just not invited to the office because it's a distro deal. It's not. You're not signed to Roc Nation. The fact that they were in front of that, That's a statement.
Mall
Oh, yeah, no, it's definitely a statement. It's definitely.
Rory
That's not just some regular.
Mall
Yeah, it gets conversations going. It gets us on our podcast talking about it, alluding to it, you know, trying to figure out if that's what it means. I would love to hear it. You know, I would love to hear what Jay sounds like right now. And, you know, obviously he's still in shape. We know that. I don't think he's gonna ever not be in shape or if he's not in shape, he ain't gonna let us see him not in shape.
Rory
Yeah, he ain't gonna rap.
Mall
Yeah, he not gonna rap if he not in shape. But I just don't think. I don't know if Jay is in the. In a rapping. I don't know if he's in a rapping mood. I don't know if he is like, you know, if the atmosphere of rap right now is appetizing or enticing to him. I just can't see it.
Rory
I think that comes and goes. Like, I think around the God did verse, I would have said, I don't even think hov is even focusing on that. But I think if he hears something and starts mumbling and you catch him that day, I think you have the opportunity. If you catch him right then and there and he's into it and can block out two hours, you'll get a four minute verse.
Mall
I mean, if we know anybody.
Rory
Because that God did verse was not the verse. That song was done. It had Wayne and Ross, like, that was done. And then Hove heard it and just started mumbling in the office and walked across the street to Jungle Studios and did it. Like that wasn't a plan.
Mall
Yeah, but you know, we know that Khaled, he's gonna keep a J verse. He's gonna always get a J verse. He's gonna get a Beyonce record.
Rory
Controversial because I do like Khaled as a person. Has Khaled exhausted his Jay Z features? Is that becoming?
Mall
I don't think so.
Damaris
Expected, kind of.
Rory
Yeah. I think Hove even when they partnered, of course they had a relationship before, but when him and Lenny Brought Khaled in was at the height of, what was it, Vine? It was before Tick Tock. What did Khaled like, really pop off on as a personality outside of being Snapchat? Yeah, that was when that partnership happened because Cali was smoking hot outside of at that point, just making great albums. They signed, they signed him to manage him because he already had the epic deal and all that other shit. They signed him because he was smoking hot on the Internet and it made sense for HOV to always hop on that stuff because they have a deal. I, I don't know if Khaled has that same type of temperature on him now, where HOV would be like, I'm giving him another verse.
Damaris
Yeah, I don't see it happening.
Rory
We have given him a Jay Z Beyonce feature, a Jay Z Beyonce future song. I've given him one of the greatest versions of the last 10 years. Like, he has given Khaled countless things because one, he with Khaled. Two, the music was great. Three, he was invested and they were partners. I don't know if this album HOV is gonna be like, yeah, I gotta give Khaled another one.
Mall
Maybe not this album, but I don't know if it's. He'll. I don't know if I'm on the side of saying Khaled may never get a J verse again.
Rory
I think HOV is only focused on the fall off with J. Cole and maybe the clips if it makes sense. If he hears something. I think those are the only two things in his rap brain without jewelry on that he's thinking about.
Mall
You think Jay gives J. Cole a verse?
Rory
Yeah, I think we finally get the Jay Z and J. Cole song we've been looking for after. Ironically, Mr. Nice Watch. He had no jewelry on when he wrote that.
Damaris
Justice for Mr. Nice Watch.
Rory
But yeah, it's not even, it's the beat that just is just not for me. I think we finally get the, the proper J. Cole and Jay Z song that we have been looking for.
Mall
I don't think so.
Rory
Okay.
Mall
I think I, I, I, I don't know, man. I don't, I just don't think Jay is. Because at that point where Jay Z is at in his career, in his life, I mean, a verse has to have significant what A record has to have a significant meaning. He's not just doing it just to show off and say, yeah, I still rap better than Oli. I don't think that that doesn't, that doesn't mean much to Jay at this point in his life. I think that it has to be a situation where the record is phenomenal. The music is incredible. The project that it's on is like, you know, it's gonna move the needle, I guess. And kind of shift the sound of what's going on right now. I just don't know if there's anything out here that's gonna do that.
Rory
I think it finishes the story of A Star Is Born. Because J. Cole was pretty much the first artist signed to S. Carter Enterprises. He wasn't even signed to ROC Nation. You get A Star Is Born with a. A list. Heavy Blueprint 3 J. Cole being the only unknown that he was launching. Was talking about all the greatest ever. Here's going to be the next greatest ever. Which was a huge fucking risk. I'm not taking anything away from J. Cole. I'm talking about the music business. There's a chance. Not because of J. Cole's talent, just because of how politics work. We never heard from J. Cole again after that verse like that. That can happen in the music industry.
Mall
Oh, for sure.
Rory
So the fact that that was your first artist that you signed. Probably the most profitable rapper that you have had post Roc a fella. He then fulfilled his contract, made you millions and millions of dollars. And then did what you would have want him to do as a human, not as a businessman. Of course he'd want to keep Cole. Cole went on to do his own thing. And is now already a legend in his own right. To me. That's why you get the record. Jay telling that story with Cole finishes A Star Is Born. Look, we were fucking right. Look at this journey. You made me profitable. You carried Roc Nation in the beginning. And now you're doing your own thing the way me, Biggs and Dame did. Like. Like that's what I think Jay respects. You fulfilled what I needed you to do. And then you did your own thing.
Mall
You don't feel like.
Rory
I mean, that's why I'm giving you a verse, right?
Mall
Just you. You brought up J. Cole. So I'm just thinking J. Cole right now. Something doesn't seem a little like. Cause J. Cole has put out some songs and we liked. He got off. He's still obviously in shape. He still rap his ass off. But the songs don't seem to be. Why is he putting these. Why is. Why is J. Cole released these records that he's released in the last however many months?
Rory
Because he can.
Mall
But have they. Have you. Have they lasted? Have they. Are we living with them? Because I can't remember the last time I even listened to it, I was in the Port.
Rory
Shit. That's in my rotation still.
Mall
But that was from one of the first ones that he released.
Rory
Yeah.
Mall
He's released, what, three since then?
Damaris
No, I think it's only been Port Antonio and Clout.
Rory
Yeah. Clouds. I will say I liked Clouds, but I will admit I don't really go back to Clouds that much. But the poor joint, I. I play that a lot. I like that record.
Damaris
Porn Antonio and Clouds, I think, are the only songs that were released post. I mean, that were recorded post battle. I think the other ones were recorded pre battle. They just happened to come out. But those two were the only ones that I'm aware of off the top that were recorded post battle. And they both were good. Clouds is not something that you would. Neither one of them are songs that you would. They were statement pieces. They weren't something that you would play regularly. I don't think they were songs. I think they were just J. Cole getting his thoughts out on.
Rory
Yeah.
Damaris
You know, on record, so.
Rory
And I'm on the side of. I don't know this to be true. This was just like what everyone saw on the Internet, rumors of what the concept of the fall off was, where Cole was gonna have features from older artists that, quote, unquote, fell off. Not really fell off, but, you know, just saying that. That after you hit your peak and become a legacy act, things get different. So it's going to be legacy acts. I don't think the Beef changed that. I just think the time in which he had to pause because of the Beef has made him redo this entire album. That's just my guess. I. I think the concept he had, he liked at the time and now is like, I'm falling out of love with that concept. Next to the Fall Off, I think it's going to be way less feature heavy than it was going to be originally. I just. Yeah, I think he's had too much time to have to chill because of all the weird that was going on. And he's probably has three different versions of it at this point.
Mall
I'm interested to see what Cole does with this next. With this next project. I want to see where, you know, sonically, just where his energy is at because it's, you know, it's. It's a lot on this project. It's a lot riding on this project.
Rory
Yeah.
Mall
Like, this is.
Rory
With or without the Beef, there is.
Mall
Like, a lot riding on. But now since you have that beef, I mean, coming off of that, this Is your next, you know, album post that.
Rory
It's really interesting you actually bring that up because I never thought about this because of everything that happens. Most legacy acts which the big three is now in that that portion of their careers by hip hop time standards. Like when Blueprint 3 came out, of course. Do I want Jay to deliver? Sure. But I wasn't like, yo, this is going to be like a moment or not a make or break. But this is going to be a defining moment for Jay Z. Blueprint 3. I didn't think that at all. All three of them, everything that they're about to put out next is going to be a defining moment in their careers. Which wouldn't have happened prior to that. Which is a interesting thought that I never even grasped. Like had that never happened? Yeah, like of course I can't wait for all three of them to drop music. But I felt all three of them are so solidified that like if it's a duh, like whatever, like there's, there's. They're all legends.
Mall
Do you think?
Rory
But now it's like everything the three I'll do is matters just as much as it did as your sophomore album.
Mall
Do you think we get all three of them this year?
Rory
No, I don't think we get Kendrick. I think we get Cole. I could see, I could see a November Drake release.
Mall
November. No, I think he said Summer.
Rory
Every artist does that.
Mall
Yeah, I think, I think you said. I think he said.
Rory
But I think we get Colin. Drake. Drake this year. I don't think Kendrick does. Like I said, my predictions. I think we get a bunch of Kendrick features. That's, that's where I see should go.
Mall
Shout out to Drake. He's. He's. I think he just received. He has 10 diamond since 10 certified diamond RIAA records. Most of any artist ever. That's a. A huge stat. 10 Diamond Records is crazy.
Rory
So shout out to Drake for that. What defines diamond again? Were you a trillion streams or something?
Mall
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Rory
To get 10 million sold. What does that mean?
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Rory
Speaking of diamond artists. Well, actually, I don't know.
Mall
Does.
Rory
Does JLO have a Diamond record possibly waiting for tonight that didn't go Diamond. I feel like rapper wise. What? Nelly's diamond, Eminem is diamond, Drake is diamond. Is there. Is there other diamond rappers?
Mall
Yeah, I mean, I think Eminem has three. I think Wayne has a couple, Jay has a couple, Cardi has two, I think.
Rory
Yeah, just, just looking off quickly. What Google says. Michael Jackson, everything. Drake, God's plan. Eminem, lose yourself, not afraid. Cardi has one.
Damaris
Lauren Hill. Of course.
Rory
Yeah. Katy Perry. All right, well, I, I thought JLO maybe snuck in there. Bruno Mars, Post Malone. Yeah, these all check out. Said Swaylee. Good for Swae Lee. Man, does Fetty Wap have one yet? Fetty Wap Gotta have three diamonds, dog. Yeah, Trap Queen has to be done. Well, yes, I'm sure JLO has one, but kind of a callback to what we were talking about before. Everyone needs to stop being fake gay. Like, I love to watch women kiss women, but not when I can tell they don't want to kiss women. Yeah, that's like, like you. You'll definitely get me. I'm not a pervert, but I enjoy watching women kiss women. That's just a natural thing. I feel like, yeah, women like watching women kiss women. But similar to when Issa did that, which I think is a great episode of Black Mirror, I could tell you didn't want to kiss that chick. Yeah, like, I can feel it. You're making me feel uncomfortable.
Mall
It's jumping through the screen.
Rory
What is JLO doing? And also, what show is this for those that don't know American Music Awards? Oh, this was at the AMAs.
Mall
Yes.
Rory
Started her performance with making out with all of her dancers. Was she trying to, like, I don't know, maybe do a callback or honor when Britney and Madonna awkwardly kissed? Because I didn't feel like they wanted to kiss at that point. Oh, I was a kid going like, these chicks. These chicks don't want to kiss.
Mall
Nah. I don't know. Maybe she's gonna have Bad Bunny, right? Remember Bad Bunny kissed his dancers in the mouth at Yankee Stadium. Maybe she, you know.
Rory
Okay, all right.
Mall
Trying to tap into that. I don't know.
Rory
But does that get awkward? Because when dancers have to, like, audition for performances or tours, like, there'll be a big warehouse, bunch of dancers numbers on, and they'll sit there. And, like, that's got to be weird too, because now you need to find the best dancers, but also ones that you want to make out with. That's got to be a weird process. Like, imagine having someone, like, smoke that, and then like, they come up like, oh, number 15, come here. Like, we really love you. And then just. Just the whole, like, the bottom of her stomach, and she's like, thank you for having me. It just. It just hit your face. It's like, you know what?
Mall
That.
Rory
We'll call you.
Damaris
We'll call you.
Rory
And how do you rehearse that?
Mall
Well, they definitely not in rehearsals. I don't think they're kissing in rehearsals. They just.
Rory
There's no way. They didn't at least once do it.
Damaris
Had to do a walk.
Rory
You're not doing a first kiss at the AMAs on stage, cuz you got.
Damaris
To count down how long y' all kissing for.
Rory
Yeah, and the.
Damaris
Yeah, to be on beat and stuff.
Rory
And that's like a close camera angle. Ah, this to me, this is the overly sexual. Like, and maybe this is when you have a child, you turn into a white Republican. Like, what is. What exactly is the point of this? Like, I understand making certain statements. Like, when there's been artists that have. Even the Madonna and Britney Spears that I could tell anyone to do it, it made a statement. At that time, people hated gays. Like, I I understand statements that are made. What the is the point of you just making out in a circle with.
Mall
A bunch of people? It's not a full make out, though. Like, I'm looking at it now. They. They barely touching lips. Like, it's. It's not a full makeup.
Rory
I'm not against sexual and performances or people kiss when it's making a statement that has some purpose or value or something behind it. I just don't get, like, for what. Just so you're in the headlines, which is fine too. I guess I get that.
Mall
A little shock value.
Rory
Shock value school.
Mall
Is JLo gay? Does she like women?
Damaris
Maybe it's our team.
Rory
I saw. I saw everyone fluid. Is she, you know, so everyone's saying, yo, Diddy freak offs must have been crazy. I was like, that girl was definitely not invited to those. I could tell how she kissed women. Ain't no way Rory mad.
Damaris
Cause, like, the kiss ain't like, really turn him on. Like, he over here disappointed in the kiss. Like, if you gonna kiss, like, make it something.
Rory
Art is to be judged. No, that is true.
Mall
That is true.
Rory
They were here to entertain and make a statement. I'm talking about the statement.
Mall
Yeah, but I'm looking at it. That wasn't a real kiss. That wasn't a make out.
Rory
You know, an entourage. When Johnny Drama gets the role to have a girlfriend, and he makes out with like 15 to 20 women in one day, and he's like, models. None of them even made me draw wood. Yo. Coming out of a rehearsal, that way of saying the only way it'll work is if I get hard is sexual harassment.
Mall
Yeah. When we did the. What was the name of the division record?
Damaris
If I cut you, if I get caught cheating.
Mall
If I get caught. Right when we did that video. So you know in the video, Daniel has to kiss Dreya.
Rory
Right?
Mall
Dreya.
Rory
Yeah.
Mall
So.
Rory
Oh, why didn't we talk about this with them? How do we forget about that?
Mall
So. And like, us going through it, like, going through the shot, getting ready for the scene or whatever. Like, Daniel's like, yeah, so, you know, I just come out with say that a couple lines. I'm going out. I'll be back. Da, da, da, da. Talk to you later. But every time he's doing it, he's actually kissing Dre on the lips. So I looked at J.D. i said, yo, if Daniel kissed Dre one more time.
Rory
First of all, where was the intimacy? An artist, and he's serious about a shot. You gotta make sure you.
Mall
I had him.
Rory
They Put up a lot of money for the video.
Mall
Listen, that serious artist, I respect it. But I was just standing there like, all right, fam, I get it. Like you. But you know what I'm saying? We ain't gotta keep. Like, you ain't gotta keep. You could just say like, yo, then I'll kiss you then. You know what I mean? Like, you ain't gotta keep doing it is all I'm saying.
Rory
Daniel looked at the director and was like, I didn't feel good about that.
Mall
All right, so see?
Rory
Are you sure you got it? I don't know. Trey, how do you like I feel?
Mall
Where are the cameras? Rolling. Like. No, no, no. We got it, Daniel. Thank you. Scene is good. It looks great. Color is good.
Rory
Meanwhile, the fucking AD is like, we're in penalty. We need to break.
Mall
We have to go to get to the next scene. We have to.
Rory
How did you guys keep a hookah from falling in a car? I always thought about that, of just how even on a table, I could up a hookah.
Mall
Because it wasn't. It wasn't the. The cold. It was like the.
Rory
Oh, the electrical thing.
Mall
Yeah.
Rory
All right. Yeah, that's safe, I guess.
Mall
I think. Yeah. It wasn't cold. It wasn't. Because the. The dude was saying, like, he didn't want the. The real hookah, the cold fall and hit the leather and burn the. Burn the seats and like that. So. Yeah.
Rory
Did Dre have, like, anyone on set with her?
Mall
Lex.
Rory
Oh, that's great.
Damaris
Lex being the.
Rory
What was Lex's commentary throughout all the rehearsals?
Mall
When we had the girls here, I told her I didn't. I didn't. I saw them when they first came in. We said, what's up? We spoke. And then. Because their scenes were in different. Well, Lex's scene was in the bedroom. She passed in the bedroom. It was like Dre was calling her. Yeah, he ain't shit. So I didn't see Lex at all until I didn't. I didn't see at all because when I rapped, when I was done, I just went back to my hotel.
Rory
Yeah, it's kind of almost how, like, Pacino and De Niro in that Heat scene in the diner, it's exactly like they actually didn't see each other. It's exactly like they shot at a different time.
Mall
That's exactly what the AD was going for. That's what he said.
Damaris
That's what he said.
Rory
So I want to be a biter, but I got this inspiration of you.
Mall
Not seeing Lex, you know, De Niro like, you're De Niro today. Like, that's exactly. Exactly what he said. Yeah. Great video, though. Had a great time.
Rory
That was a great video.
Mall
Yeah.
Rory
And I even, like, just the marketing of tapping into podcasters. Like, and that was. That was fun. And it was fun to just watch you in a backseat in a music video having fun. Yeah.
Mall
In Atlanta.
Rory
Meanwhile, I'm over here trying to be a serial killer in mind. Not one. Not one girl around.
Mall
In the tub with clothes.
Rory
Yeah, in the tub with clothes.
Mall
That's what she was doing in your video.
Rory
Stalking a girl that has a man. Like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Damaris
Regular.
Rory
But I don't know. Maybe I'll go the JLO route for this next album.
Mall
No, you don't need to do that.
Damaris
This video of JLO dancing to Kendrick Lamar, like, so I didn't watch the.
Rory
AMAs, so they flipped it to Kendrick Lamar in her performance, and she started dancing.
Damaris
You know how they add, like, a breakdown in, like, Jaded is known for this, like, a random. Just interpolation. Interpol, whatever. However, pronounce that.
Rory
It was this cus. Version.
Damaris
It's fine.
Rory
Documentary.
Mall
Documentary.
Damaris
But, yeah, they just threw that in there. It's not about the music. It's about the dance moves. And, like, I really wanted y' all to see this, because I saw it and just started busting out laughing like, I don't know who choreographed this. The trust fall, please.
Rory
Honey Daniels would definitely choreograph this.
Damaris
She said they not like us.
Rory
Oh, my God. Maybe that was a bad wait, but did it look better with the real camera angle?
Damaris
No, no.
Rory
Like, maybe we just missed. Did we miss the points of, like, every time it hit the camera move?
Mall
Like, did it look good getting somebody's iPhone?
Rory
The iPhone looks nuts.
Mall
Yeah. Yeah. That's not fair.
Damaris
The trust fall. The trust fall is what took me out of here.
Rory
I was like, not even just the trust fall. The fact that she kicked her leg out like that, and then when she did the D. Mutumbo. No, no, no.
Mall
Yo, I mean, listen, we can have jokes, but. What's that up there? 52. How old is JLo?
Damaris
I got to double check. I know Janet's 59, so JLo's probably around, like, 55.
Mall
Nah, JLo, she's 55.
Damaris
Exactly.
Mall
Told you that's 55.
Rory
Look great.
Mall
50, man. Listen, JLo looks amazing. She looks great.
Rory
Do you remember the Justin Timberlake video, like, a few years ago when he got back out on the stage? It was probably that choreographer. Remember how bad those Justin moves were? When he was gyrating.
Mall
But I always.
Damaris
Don't do it, Ma. Don't do it.
Mall
I always tried to tell people, man, we just. We looked at Justin like he had rhythm. He was a white boy, had rhythm, could sing. But we did put extras on Justin, though. We put extras on it. Everything Justin, if you go back and look at all of the early, like, post NSync Justin solo shit, a lot of the. More everything was just like. It's like a lot of popping and locking. It's like, I get it, but it's not. It was. Cause it was a white boy doing it. It was like, yo. Nah, he. Yo, Justin. Is he that dude? And he don't get it twisted. Justin Timberlake is amazing, amazing talent. But I think we did put a little bit of gas on Justin, though.
Damaris
You said it's a whole lot of popping and locking, but that was what it was back then.
Mall
Yeah, but everything still now with Justin. Justin, if he's dancing, it's gonna be popping and locking everything.
Rory
But, I mean, that happens with most things, like down to the professor or White Chocolate. Like, yeah, they doing the same crossover, same move. But Justin. All right, Post man in the woods, those were some of the craziest moves. But don't act like when he got the vanguard Michael Jackson award at the VMAs. I was 2013 when he did that medley. That was good.
Mall
Like, no, Justin, listen, Justin is.
Rory
He got busy. But I know what you're saying, he's dope. But, like, the dirty pop choreography doesn't hit the same if you watch it on YouTube now. I hear you.
Damaris
Yeah, but back in the day, that was. That's what it was. Because, honestly, Ma, some people could look at you and say that Michael was overrated in dancing, too, when it comes to that stuff.
Mall
Nah, I mean, they could say it, but they'll be wrong.
Rory
They can say it, and they belong in that island that we keep talking about where we need to put people.
Damaris
All I'm saying is, back in the day, what we used to look at as extreme, extremely good dancing, now you would look at it, and the choreography will look very simple.
Mall
Yeah, no, I get it, but I just feel like Jason Derulo might be a better dancer than Justin Timberlake, but we don't say it. You get what I'm saying? Like, we might. We don't say it. We don't say it.
Rory
Jason Drill is probably a better dancer than just.
Mall
But we don't say that. Nobody says it. Nobody will say it.
Rory
He's probably a better Dancer.
Damaris
Okay. Because now I'm watching it and like, like, mom, I got a point.
Mall
Everything, it's like, it's like a big no. Yeah.
Rory
This is what I. The man in the woods story is when we really saw just this 2018, 2013, Justin was still. He was still two stepping. He was doing like his Vanguard Award was deserved. That melody was great. 2018 is where things got really weird.
Damaris
Well, it's 2003 and he. I mean, he ain't really busting no moves. For real. But I. I don't know.
Mall
Like, I mean, I'm just. It just feels like a big Gap commercial. Like, I. I don't know, man. Like, everything is just like, you know, it's, it's, it's cool. It's. You know, he got some style. He could sing.
Rory
It almost feels like your friend joking in the lunchroom, like, just dancing, like, for, like, jokes. It's not. It's not to be taken seriously.
Mall
Yeah, like, he. He talented. I'm not. I don't want that to get lost on what I'm saying. Justin Timberlake is. Is a. Is an amazing talent. I just feel like, you know, because he was the white boy, attractive, he had style, he could dance a little bit. It's just that, you know, we. We kind of just gassed it a little bit, that's all.
Damaris
Yeah, that's kind. This kind of ass. I ain't gonna lie. Like, you know, looking back, this kind of some ass. But, you know.
Rory
Okay, but also it's muted.
Mall
You can't judge it on that white speech.
Rory
The basketball squeaks with it. That's the funniest.
Mall
Put that behind it. Peace. Put the basketball squeaks behind it.
Rory
Okay, but do we ever like, put Justin on a dance list?
Damaris
No. Nobody was ever saying that's what I'm saying was the greatest.
Rory
I feel like we're hating for no reason because no one ever was like, yo, Justin Timberlake is the guy when it comes to the moves.
Mall
Nobody said he was the greatest dancer. Nobody. Listen, we definitely put people love Justin Timberlake because he was a white boy and he had rhythm. We not gonna act like his dancing wasn't part of his. His allure. We're not gonna do that.
Rory
But also, like, from that era of pop, like, Britney danced. Christina Aguilera, she can't dance. I know, but that's what I'm saying.
Damaris
None of us, they gonna kill you for that, baby. But I'm not, not rolling. I'm not, not rolling.
Rory
She had iconic choreography at that time that you wouldn't say the way Chris Brown dances freestyle. Any show, Chris could just get busy and it'd be better than the actual iconic dancing that Britney Spears did. But it was a time like, oops, I did it again is not good dancing. But it was an iconic moment in choreography. It's not good, but it was a moment.
Damaris
Those pop stars from that era all have a very stiff, like.
Rory
Two, three, four.
Mall
Yeah, they're counting. They're counting the four in the head. You can see them counting the four.
Rory
That's why everything is so choppy the way it is.
Damaris
But. Yeah, but it wasn't. But what I'm saying is it's not just them because they can't dance. Because even when I go back and look at Janet's dancing, it was very, very, like, stiff movement, like sharp movement.
Mall
Bruno Mars might dance better than Justin Timberlake.
Damaris
Bruno Mars. Bruno Mars. He has a little bit more rhythm.
Rory
Yeah. Wait, hold on.
Mall
Is that a. Yeah, but people won't say. But a lot of people won't agree with that.
Rory
White people dance to the lyrics. Black people dance to the beat.
Mall
Yeah, absolutely. We feel it. We feel the music.
Rory
That's the difference.
Mall
Y' all hear the music.
Rory
Even outside of the 1 in 4 and I'm sorry, the 1 and 3 and 2 and 4 conversation we have with white people. I really think our disconnect is white people dance to the lyrics and black people dance to the drums.
Mall
Yeah, you got to feel it. You have to feel the music. Bruno Mars is definitely a better dancer than Justin Timberlake.
Rory
I don't even think it's close.
Mall
But people won't. People won't agree with that. A lot of people won't agree with that.
Rory
But again, I never even looked at Britney. Like, that was just the standard of pop star at that time with boy bands, like, nobody would say Backstreet Boys was the craziest dancers, but they had the NSync, had the iconic we're on strings.
Mall
It was just a bunch of white boys dancing, just doing. Yeah, they was out there doing Justin.
Rory
I love. Cuz his catalog is incredible. Oh, no, his voice is incredible. I never, like, put Justin even in, like a top 25 dancer type. Who has ever been like, yo, Justin, Tim, that's the guy when it comes to dancing.
Mall
I mean, it was part of him. It was part of his show. It was his.
Rory
No, it was because it was required at that time.
Damaris
Yeah, it was required at that time when I.
Rory
When I took my little cousin Alexandria to One Direction show and all of them at MetLife were just on there like rappers. Like, they wasn't no court. They was out there like they was rappers. I was like, oh, this isn't required with boy bands anymore. This is when One Direction was popping, popping. When before homie split and became solo, they didn't have no real choreography. That's. That wasn't required anymore. Yeah, because it probably would have been trash in this time if they tried to do what NSYNC and Backstreet Boys did. They had some pedophile that was an insurance salesman leading them. Like, you think the choreography was gonna be dope? You didn't see the doc.
Damaris
You see the docket?
Mall
Oh, yes, yes, yes.
Rory
Like, look who was leading. He couldn't even get out of his chair.
Damaris
And Rory don't do nothing else. He gonna watch a documentary every single time.
Mall
That doc was great, though. That was a great doc.
Rory
But, yeah, boy bands had to do that at the time, even though they was trash. But, you know, boy bands don't need to do it.
Mall
Now.
Damaris
Are you ready to take back your Bruno Mars take, or are we gonna wait till later this year when the album dropped, that he's a glorified cruise ship singer?
Mall
He is.
Damaris
Okay, I just wanted to talk about.
Mall
Listen, Bruno is talented. I'm never saying he's not talented, but it's just like. It just seems Bruno comes across to me like he's just doing what he grew up watching. Like, somebody showed him a bunch of film of great performers and entertainers, and he's mimicking that. I don't get. I don't really feel authenticity when I see Bruno. He's great, though. Like, he's a great, great performer, entertainer, has great records, great songs. But I just don't feel like. Like, when it's all said and done and Bruno retires, he's not making music anymore. What do we remember Bruno for? Like, it's like every. Every time we saw him, it was like he was emulating a moment or time in music that we have already had from the style, the fashion, the sound. It's like everything is like. It's like when you on a cruise ship and they be like, yo, we got Michael Jackson performing tonight.
Rory
Listen.
Mall
And a dude comes out, he kills it. He could dance his ass off, all of that. But that's not Mike, though. You understand what I'm saying? It's like. It feels like that with Bruno. It's, like, talented, but it feels too like you're mimicking something that you grew.
Rory
Up watching and give him more credit. It's the guy on Broadway. I forgot his name. That plays Mike on Broadway. Incredible. Like, that's a talent. But you're playing Mike.
Mall
Exactly.
Rory
But it takes an insane amount of talent to even mimic it that well.
Mall
Yeah, no, but I'm glad you're.
Rory
Listen, they killed me for the Bruno shit. You take it now. Peach clip it just mall this time.
Mall
No, no, I'm not. I'm not saying. I'm not saying we go down. Bruno's right here. This is swing. This is like, we've had this, this, this. This era before. So he's going back to that. The doob look, the style.
Rory
Like, he didn't make it his own. He didn't take an inspiration and make it his own and push it forward. He just did a do what he's doing.
Mall
Takes an amazing level of talent, though.
Rory
We've been down this conversation.
Damaris
We have. Yeah, we've had the conversation. Yeah. I just wanted to see if you were going to take back your take. You didn't. You're standing on it. That's cool. I did.
Mall
What was my take, though?
Damaris
That he was a glorified cruise ship.
Rory
Singer, which was hilarious.
Damaris
Yeah, that was it.
Rory
Yeah.
Mall
That's all. But I mean, talented cruise ships, some cruise ship entertainers are super. They end up on Broadway, like, talented. He's still a talented artist. I'm just saying it's not. It doesn't feel authentic. It feels like, oh, I can go out there and look like the Temptations and sound like the Temptations. I can go out there and dance like, you know, Jackie Wilson and James Brown. Like, I can do that. Like. Like, that's all I'm saying. It feels like.
Damaris
Yeah, okay. Well, did y' all see Janet get her icon award before we go to voicemails? You know, I'm always gonna rep for the real n. Janet got an Icon award at the ama. She performed.
Mall
I feel like Janet. We've been getting giving Janet icon Awards since 2000.
Rory
I seen them coming, but I don't.
Damaris
Know if the AMAs ever gave her one. She got the Icon award at the ama. She performed.
Rory
That's late.
Mall
Yeah. Like, they're giving Janet now. They're giving her an Icon Award. Like, well, she's been an icon since she probably was 24 years old.
Damaris
Younger than that. But what I will say, I wanted to bring up something that she said in her speech. So in her speech, she came out and said, you know, I don't want to be disrespectful. I appreciate this award, but I don't want to be considered an icon because I. In this day and age, I didn't do this to be famous. Me and my family did this because we were obsessed with music and dancing and singing. We didn't do anything to be famous. We did this because for the love of. Of the art. And I feel like people don't do it for that anymore.
Rory
And because we were terrified of our father.
Damaris
Rory, sometimes some things are just not needed.
Mall
Yeah, just shut the up sometimes.
Rory
Okay, I'm sorry. The amas need to tell Janet Jackson she was an icon. I'm the one that's ruining it.
Mall
No, no. They're like that.
Rory
Let me. No, no, no. Let's have amas have their moment. No, now Janet Jackson is an icon because the American Music Awards.
Mall
No Janet Jackson.
Damaris
That wasn't the point of the conversation.
Rory
Eminem, B, Ken, Kendrick and what? Listen, the whites are up 20 against Kendrick and what? McLemore and Eminem? I don't know. Some award. I don't watch the amas, but it's America. What do you think? The white rapper's not gonna win.
Mall
Eminem wins favorite male hip hop artist at 2025. American, definitely.
Rory
It's everyone's favorite.
Mall
He won a favorite hip hop artist 2025.
Rory
The only voters were me and Peach.
Mall
Oh, that checks out. Oh, in that case, place fight for your white. Yeah, I get it.
Rory
I was like, who's this Tyler guy?
Mall
Who is this guy? What is this music he's making?
Rory
But do we have voicemails?
Mall
You've got mail.
Marcelo
What's up, guys? This is Marcelo, originally from. From Harlem, but now I'm in upstate New York. I've got a relationship out of ice for you. So I recently started seeing this woman, and she's super dope, and, like, we're just super compatible. Like, she's from Queens, moved up to the boonies. So we also have that in common, right? Like, we see. See life very, very similarly, and she's just super cool. We've been vibing for the last two months, and although it's not something that. That we've cemented yet, we've had conversations that we're working towards, you know, being exclusive, our kids meeting, you know, all. All the things that you want in a relationship. Unfortunately, last night I was putting my daughter down, and I was just kind of sleepy, and I was gonna send her a screenshot of something or something, and I sent a screenshot, but I also, like, sent, like, another thing, like, which was the next video, which was me engaging in Some, you know, ungodly acts with another person. And obviously I sent it by accident, unsent it. And then she's like too late. Like that's, that was her response. And we stayed up till like three in the morning, kind of like cashing it out. Obviously she tore into me and I just, I'm just wondering if there's a bounce back for me, man. Like, I really like her only bounce.
Rory
Back is what's happening in that video in the morning.
Marcelo
And she obviously hasn't spoken to me or answered me. Is there, you know, what's, what's my next move here? I up.
Trey Farrow
I do like it.
Rory
This is one of those that I want to get on Patreon for the Zoom Zoom Room as well. Because I have to know what that conversation when like you can't even. There's no way to even like lie out of that. Like, because even if it's like, oh, that was a long time ago. Why was that? The next video in your phone, she.
Damaris
Can also see like a long time ago because you can see the data on the, on the, you can see when it was taken, at what time and where.
Rory
Let's give him the benefit of the doubt. Let's say that this, that he's not cheating and that was just a video he had in his phone. Why. Why was that the first video on your camera roll? Like there's really no way out of this of a mistake.
Mall
Like, like, there's always a way.
Rory
Like if, let's say, let's say she went through his phone.
Mall
There's always a way.
Rory
Let's say she went through his phone and there was some from like she went through the camera like 2020. And there was a video of him, a chick. You could even be like, I don't go back that far on my camera. I didn't even know that was there. And it was way before we were together. You get out of that one. But this is the, the first video in your camera roll today.
Mall
Yeah, I was editing.
Rory
I was editing. Editing.
Damaris
It is crazy.
Mall
I was editing.
Rory
Yeah. I'm trying to get my tick tock to go off. Like.
Mall
Yeah. Go viral.
Rory
I was doing A day in the Life.
Mall
Yeah. Yeah.
Rory
Everyone asked me about my sex routine. So finally I'll tell you guys.
Mall
They said four videos of you in May. So I was like.
Rory
Most of you will skip this. Yeah, most post yourself in May.
Mall
Yeah. Like so I was, you know, I was getting in on, on the timeline.
Rory
That's all I want him on the Zoom Zoom Room just so I can hear how he tried to get out of there.
Mall
Yeah.
Rory
Because what. Like, at that point, you just have to be like, yo, I got nothing to say here.
Mall
But here's the good part.
Rory
Either if you want to stay cool. If you don't, I understand.
Mall
Here's the good part. She stayed on the phone, lit him up, so there's still some room as long as she don't hang up and block you. And that means, yo, you still gotta fight. And chance. He gotta fight his chance right now. He gonna have to. It's gonna take some. You know, he gonna have to, you know, do some things and treat her like a princess and all, even though he should be doing that anyway, if he really ends up. But he's gonna have to go above and beyond now to, you know, let her know. Listen, my focus is on you. You the one I want. You're the one I wanna be with.
Damaris
Like, that's your bag when you get caught, huh?
Mall
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I go heavy into that bag when I get caught. Yeah. Listen, you the one. They just distractions. You, my focus. You know what I'm saying? You get it?
Rory
I don't even want to be with the girl that allows me to say, but I come home to you. I don't even want that girl.
Mall
Nah, that's who you want.
Rory
No, you don't.
Mall
You gotta have them dumb. Need them dumb, man. You need them dumb. Yeah, you don't want them too smart, you know, you want them to have common sense, but you want them to be dumb at the same time. Absolutely. I could. You could be dumb. Just have common sense, though. That's all.
Rory
I mean, I don't know if there's advice here. This. The ball is in her court. Like, you just kind of have to own that and just. There's not much you can do. But he said they, like, write a handwritten note.
Mall
I don't know. No, he said they kicked it on the phone. Like, she. She lit up.
Damaris
They didn't kick it.
Mall
She said she tore into me.
Rory
We spoke about 3am that wasn't kicking it.
Damaris
No.
Mall
Yeah.
Damaris
No.
Mall
I mean, if they was on the phone for an hour, that's.
Rory
She was screaming. What's her Instagram? What's her name? How'd you meet her like that? That wasn't a fun conversation.
Damaris
You never had. You never been lit into for three hours straight? Like, at no point in the conversation. Calm down.
Mall
I'm not. I'm not listening to you. Like, I'm not gonna stand and get lit up for three hours. Who does that?
Rory
No, you know, what's the place?
Mall
Standing there getting jumped. Run. It's okay. It's okay to get on your bike and run. Like, you gonna stand there and keep getting hit. Run, like, hang up the phone. You losing. You down 40 right now.
Damaris
Hang. So how do you hang up if she on your ass about it and you want her. You know you want her back. How you get off the phone, cuz?
Mall
You got to be like, yo, listen, man. Like, I up. Like, I'm. I know. Like, you know, I. I have. I have a problem. I have a sickness. And then hang up. So now she's worried like, yo, what do you mean he got a sickness? You not answer the phone for, like, 10 hours, and you just got to text.
Rory
Oh, you the. You the fake suicide guy.
Mall
No, no, I wouldn't go that far. I wouldn't go fake suicide. I just like, yo, listen, I'm going through some things. I'm trying to get to know what I'm saying. I know, I know. I up. Like, I always up. I hate this. I hate that. I always do this.
Damaris
See, you can't gaslight me like that, cuz. The moment you hang up, I'mma text. I hope whatever you go through kill you.
Mall
That's the one you keep, huh? Oh, you keep her.
Rory
That's the girl you want to be with.
Mall
That means she love you. When she text you that. That means she love you, cuz.
Rory
Then you sitting there like, damn, my fake suicide was the only shit I.
Damaris
Had left out of here. Like, you ain't going to gas me. Ass like me into that shit. Niggas start that crying and banging their head against the. The wall. Yeah, all right. Follow through.
Rory
And we're only talking about the people that do that fake suicide because we can't stand that.
Damaris
Not real. Not real.
Rory
I like when you know that somebody's doing that fake suicide. Yeah. Say that type of. Call their car because you know they're not going to do it. And now they sitting there like, well, I'm not going to kill myself. But now I.
Mall
There's only one thing after.
Rory
Now I'm sitting here dumb.
Damaris
Yeah, do a flip.
Mall
Do a.
Rory
Who was that shit? In the other guys, when Will Ferrell takes the loudspeakers, like, people are down here murmuring. No one believes you.
Mall
No one thinks you're gonna do it. Yeah, you gotta do that. Nah, take out the. You gotta, like, ask if she hungry. Like, yo, so let's go eat. Woman ain't turning down no food. Man, y' all know that wall watches.
Rory
Too many rom coms.
Mall
They not Baby D if he say, yo, get dressed.
Rory
Even in relationships, when it's not cheap.
Mall
We going to eat, Baby D. Get dressed. Going to eat. So we could talk about this. You not getting dressed.
Damaris
Oh, I'll eat in. In like. Like angry like that. Don't. Yeah, I'mma eat. But like, I'm still on your ass in between.
Mall
That's okay.
Damaris
That's not really.
Mall
But as long as I got you here in front of me and when you curse me out, we eating. You can have attitude shade the whole night at dinner, but it's like, I still got you still here, though, is what I'm saying. She just needs to make sure she's still there.
Rory
And at 3am in a diner or a Denny's, that's everyone's energy wherever.
Mall
Just, yo, get dressed. I'll be downstairs in 20 minutes. I'm coming to get you. Let's go eat. Let's talk about this, man. Like, we better than this.
Rory
Yo, you.
Mall
You getting dressed, Baby D. Yo, you said Baby D. You getting dressed. Stop lying to me in my face. You getting dressed and you downstairs in 20 minutes.
Rory
There's no.
Mall
You gonna get in the car, you gonna slam the door. You caught. You gonna have an attitude.
Damaris
What are you doing in the video though? You was eating her pussy. If you was eating her pussy in the video. I'm not eating. I don't give a. I'll go on.
Rory
A hunger strike saving up a video. You eating pussy. Whoa, whoa, whoa.
Mall
Wait, wait, wait. It's kind of wild, but why the eating pussy is like, because what it's.
Damaris
Depending on what I had to see. Like, how sick to my stomach did I get when I saw that video? Like, if I got sick. Like, if you was going crazy. Nah, what you was saying you thought she had the best pussy in the world. I can't. I can't eat. I can't eat. I can't eat, bro.
Mall
I'm saying. But like, I tell all the host, you know I'm lying. Like, come on, man.
Damaris
I'm sick. Nah.
Mall
Relationships are so funny. Y' all just both sitting there lying to each other. See who get caught lying first. First.
Rory
Yeah, that's pretty much the talking stage.
Mall
Yeah.
Rory
I just cannot believe that you've gotten that line off that if you send a video, you somebody else. You tell her, yo, we better than this.
Mall
You think I've gotten that off? No, come on, man. First of all, I've never done that.
Damaris
I would Never get caught.
Mall
Yeah. Like, what type of rookie are we.
Rory
Talking to right here in that scenario saying, yo, we better than this. Like, why are you arguing? You just sent me a video of you fucking somebody.
Mall
Why are we arguing? Why are we letting. Small thing. That's a small thing to a giant.
Rory
You gonna let something like this break us up?
Mall
Yeah, like, she's not even cute.
Rory
Look at her.
Mall
Did you look at it?
Rory
You're not the girl.
Mall
I thought she was cute. Like, she ain't cute. Like, I was horny. What you want me to do?
Rory
I thought we were stronger than this.
Mall
Yeah.
Rory
This is what could break us up.
Mall
I guess we wasn't real then. This is gonna. This is it.
Damaris
Oh, my God. Is this a gaslighting Olympics?
Mall
Yeah. You gotta pour it on Heavy 93 Unleaded. That's how you got. Got to do it. Yeah.
Rory
Tell me your true, true definition of love.
Mall
Yeah.
Rory
Because it can't be that.
Mall
This can't be this. This. This small.
Rory
This.
Mall
This gonna break us up.
Rory
Yo.
Damaris
When it's just a condition when start doing like that, be like, I'm not arguing with you about this. Stupid. Let me know when you over this.
Mall
Yeah. I don't know if you. I don't know if that's the time to pull at her.
Rory
I'm way too for that.
Mall
Not when you send her a video. You smash somebody. You can't pull that card out. That's not the card you go to. No, you put that back in your wallet, sir. Yeah, don't put that back. Don't use that one.
Rory
You want to try it? To me, that's like, almost aggressive. Oh, well, you've slept with other people, too.
Mall
That's not the thing.
Rory
You're just shooting at anything at this point.
Mall
Yeah. Nah, that's not the car. You want to be aggressive, be assertive, but you also have to be very delicate. Very.
Rory
Tread lightly delicate balls in her court.
Damaris
If. If.
Mall
Yeah, but you got to be aggressive on defense. Word. You know that.
Rory
Nah, nah, I'm.
Mall
What you mean, though? You can't sit back and let the offense dictate what we do.
Rory
It's a. It's a boxing.
Mall
You gotta prep. No, we picking up full stack.
Rory
Stacks clear.
Mall
Pick up full turn to three times before she cross half court. Bring the double sideline. That's a. That's a triple team now. Yeah, that's how you do it.
Rory
But I feel like every move I make, every impossible Jaylen Brunson shot ever is then going to be trumped on by a Halberton 3 that says you sent me a video of you fucking somebody else. Momentum killed.
Mall
That's when you got to pick up full, like, TJ McConnell. Whether we score or not, I'm right here. As soon as you turn around brunch and I'm in your jersey. So now what we doing? As soon as she say something, yo, get dressed. As soon as she feel like she about to get momentum in it. Yo, are you dressed?
Rory
No, I'm.
Mall
I'm downstairs. Come downstairs. I'm dressed.
Rory
That's when you got to hit him with the Tatum caps. Comebacks can be better than the setback.
Damaris
But see here, Ma, as a woman, Bye.
Mall
He getting hung up on. He get hung up on. She gone. She gone.
Rory
Nah, I tore my AC up. I sent that. Like, listen, I blew my leg out for the series.
Mall
She is gone.
Rory
But there's gonna be another season.
Damaris
So, Ma, this is the thing, right? About trying to not let, like, you trying to hurry up and get her downstairs and get her with you before she get a chance to process her feelings. That can backfire. Of course it can, because I've had that happen to me. You want it like, I'm angry, and you want me to be angry. Stop being angry so quick that you come pick me up. Da, da, da. We go do something. I yell and argue, which, whatever, we have sex, and then it's like, oh, everything is good. But when I'm back home alone, now that I have time to really process what the fuck is going on.
Mall
You ain't never home alone. We live together now.
Rory
Yo, nothing is scarier.
Mall
My home is yours.
Rory
Yo, nothing is scarier when you fuck up crazy and then y' all argue for three hours, and then y' all. Or then she wants to cook for you. You start feeling like you getting set up. Like, why is she being so cool?
Damaris
I'm here to let you know she is going to go to a day party within the next week.
Rory
Oh, no. I've been in that situation and even text the group chat, like, should I eat this food? Nah, this feels like I'm being poised. Like, I.
Mall
You don't want to, woman.
Rory
She freaked out for, like, two hours, but everything was cool after watching you.
Mall
After you sent her. But even having sex with another, you've.
Rory
Never had a wild fuck up. And then you end up, like, arguing and then fucking right after. Even then, I'm a little nervous. Like, all right, what's going on here?
Mall
Not right after. Maybe, like a couple weeks after, but not like, right after the argument.
Rory
Have you Ever been cursed out on the phone for so long, you start to fall asleep and then you wake up, her still screaming that you fell asleep, and it's like, duh. I mean, what do you want from me? I can't get a word in. You've been ranting for three hours. I'm exhausted.
Mall
Yeah, I sat on. I've sat on FaceTime and looked at her ceiling for about two hours. Oh, my God. She had an airpod and she was cleaning, doing all kind of shit.
Damaris
You cussing your ass, stupid.
Mall
I'm just sitting there looking at the phone, looking at the ceiling like, I gotta go through it. I'm in gauntlet.
Rory
Oh, at that point, like, you so fucking dumb. Like, stupid. Yeah, yeah.
Mall
I ain't gonna lie. All you gotta be is like, yeah, nah, nah. A woman hit me with the ice. The coldest shit ever, though. She was like, yo, I'm just so disappointed in you.
Rory
Oh, my God.
Mall
She's disappointed in me. She had hope. She had faith in me. That hurts when, you know, you let a woman down, like, disappointed. Oh, my God.
Rory
The bar you got off of, we're better than this. Have you ever had a woman, like, almost hit you on some parents and, like, you better than this? Oh, like, why did you.
Mall
No, I'm not.
Rory
Yo, that's. And then you be in your head like, you don't really know me. Like, that's right on par for how awful I am. This is what you did. Like, I never even viewed you like that. That's what you do.
Mall
Like, yeah, woman said, you like anything. I'm like, I like. No, I don't. Do I? Yeah, you gotta start asking, homie, do I like anything? You hit your man and say, I like anything.
Rory
And then you start thinking like, that must mean I'm gay.
Damaris
Fall back.
Mall
That must mean.
Damaris
Good job.
Rory
What a way to close. Do we have another voicemail?
Mall
I don't care what a woman ever said on the phone with me. I ain't never ended with.
Rory
With.
Mall
That must mean I'm gay. Never happened. Never happened.
Damaris
Oh, ain't nothing worse at this age.
Rory
That has not happened to me in this part of my 30s. But if it got to the three hour, I'm just sitting there on FaceTime and she just asking all that. I would be like, yo, I'm gay. Like, any way to get off the phone, Yo, I did it, cuz I'm gay. Like, how can you leave me, please?
Damaris
Now what if she.
Rory
Yo, nothing's worse than when you.
Damaris
I knew it.
Mall
That's crazy. I knew it is crazy. Like, what you mean you knew it? Like what? Like, I knew it. I knew he was.
Rory
You ever have like a situationship curse you out? Like, not even your girl and you're sitting like an hour and a half and, like, I don't need to be. Why? I don't even like you like this.
Mall
This ain't even that serious of a relationship. Like, we can.
Rory
What am I doing right now?
Mall
Yeah.
Rory
Yo, I'm gay. Leave me.
Mall
Yeah. Click hang up. All right, well, we'll talk to y' all soon. Man. Listen, man, hopefully the Nick suck still in this. Still in this Fight. Fight. Game six would be what? Saturday. Game six is Saturday. I feel like Game six is Saturday, Josh. I feel like game six is Saturday.
Damaris
Turn that up.
Mall
I feel like it's Saturday. We recording this on a Thursday. I feel like Game six. It's Saturday in Indiana. Shout out to all the homies of Kalamazoo. Don't ask why I was in Kalamazoo, Roy. I was doing things I shouldn't talk about. Michigan.
Rory
Yeah. It's not even in Indiana.
Mall
No, no, no.
Rory
Coco never even heard of that.
Mall
Kokomo, right? That's Indiana Kokomo. Yeah, right. Peach. That's Indiana.
Rory
Peach is from Kansas. Why would you know.
Mall
He knows Kokomo. Look at Kokomo's. Indiana, right? KO Right.
Damaris
Kokomo was unbroken.
Mall
I was in Kokomo. See, I used to be a Kokomo. Getting it in. Never mind.
Rory
That's sweet white right there.
Mall
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Mall
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Rory
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Mall
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Podcast Summary: New Rory & MAL - Episode 375 | The Love Boat
Release Date: May 30, 2025
Hosts: Rory & Mall, presented by iHeartPodcasts and The Volume
Description: New stories, new laughs, new random hot takes that no one asked for... New Rory & Mal
Mall’s Rough Day with Uber Driver [04:11 - 07:55]
Mall shares a humorous yet relatable story about experiencing an upset stomach after eating greasy vegan food from a local spot. He recounts his challenging ride into the city, emphasizing the rare kindness of his female Uber driver who assisted him in finding a clean bathroom.
Mall: “She absolutely saved my pants and my underwear today.” [06:51]
Rory: “She was your Julius.” [06:59]
This anecdote not only provides comic relief but also highlights the importance of unexpected kindness in everyday situations.
Knicks’ Performance and Predictions [13:15 - 23:36]
The hosts delve into an animated discussion about the New York Knicks' performance in the playoffs. They express a mix of hope and skepticism regarding the team's chances in the series against the Indiana Pacers.
Rory: “I think the Knicks are going to win tonight just to give me hope and then lose.” [14:22]
Mall: “I think the Knicks win tonight. I think the Knicks win tonight by 11.” [14:51]
They analyze player performances, coaching strategies, and historical context to predict the outcome of Game Six, reflecting their deep-seated loyalty and occasional frustration with the team.
Offset’s Spousal Support and Album Speculations [37:51 - 65:56]
The conversation shifts to the music industry, focusing on Offset's recent filing for spousal support and the anticipation surrounding his upcoming album. The hosts speculate on the potential features and the impact of his personal life on his music.
Mall: “Offset is accustomed to a certain lifestyle that Cardi B clearly helps support.” [39:16]
Rory: “This is a defining moment for Jay Z. Blueprint 3 was a defining moment for J. Cole.” [65:08]
They discuss the dynamics of artist-label relationships, distribution deals, and the potential lyrical content influenced by Offset’s personal experiences.
JLO’s AMAs Performance and Dance Critique [77:25 - 87:16]
Rory and Mall critique Jennifer Lopez’s performance at the American Music Awards, particularly her choreography and stage presence. They debate the authenticity and artistic value of her dance moves, comparing her style to other artists like Justin Timberlake and Bruno Mars.
Damaris: “Janet Jackson is an icon because the American Music Awards.” [97:30]
Rory: “Nothing defines an artist like authentic dance moves that resonate with the audience.” [89:47]
The hosts highlight the evolution of dance in performances and the significance of choreography in establishing an artist’s legacy.
Navigating Relationship Conflicts [105:25 - 115:07]
In a candid segment, the hosts role-play and discuss strategies for handling relationship conflicts, particularly when infidelity is involved. They emphasize the importance of communication, understanding, and emotional intelligence in maintaining healthy relationships.
Mall: “You gotta be like, yeah, nah, nah. I have a problem. I have a sickness.” [106:30]
Damaris: “Relationships are so funny. You guys just both sitting there lying to each other.” [107:56]
This segment offers listeners practical insights blended with humor, making complex emotional topics more approachable.
Discussions on Hypersexuality and Double Standards [44:51 - 50:54]
The hosts engage in a provocative conversation about societal perceptions of hypersexuality, double standards between genders, and the stigmatization of sexual behavior. They challenge common stereotypes and encourage a more nuanced understanding of individual actions.
Rory: “If you a bunch of women, that means you'll let a man hit. Please break down that logic.” [44:59]
Mall: “We love double standards here, so we get it.” [48:52]
Their dialogue aims to spark critical thinking among listeners about entrenched societal norms and prejudices.
Episode 375 of New Rory & MAL offers a blend of personal storytelling, sports analysis, music industry insights, and candid discussions on relationships and societal issues. Through engaging banter and thoughtful commentary, Rory and Mall create a dynamic listening experience that resonates with a diverse audience. Their ability to seamlessly transition between light-hearted anecdotes and deeper conversations ensures that both regular listeners and newcomers find value and entertainment in each episode.
Note: Advertisements, intros, outros, and non-content sections have been excluded from this summary to focus on the core discussions and insights presented by the hosts.