Episode 382 | It's Too Hot

Summary

Podcast Summary: New Rory & MAL - Episode 382 | It's Too Hot (June 24, 2025)

In Episode 382 of "New Rory & MAL," hosts Rory and Mal, along with regular contributors Savon and Baby D, navigate through a sweltering June day filled with personal anecdotes, cultural critiques, and lively discussions. This episode, aptly titled "It's Too Hot," delves into topics ranging from the unpredictability of travel plans to the evolving landscape of hip-hop, all while maintaining a humorous and engaging tone.

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1. Travel Tales and Misadventures

Duration: 02:53 – 05:15

The episode kicks off with a lively debate about Mal's unexpected trip to Paris. Savon shares his skepticism about Mal's ability to make a quick turnaround from New York to Paris, highlighting the impracticality of such a swift journey.

Savon ([03:52]): "How long is the trip to Paris? Same as London. About six, seven hours maybe."

Baby D ([04:17]): "Seven hours, 30 minutes. Plus the six hours ahead. No fucking way."

This exchange underscores the challenges of managing international travel schedules, setting a humorous tone for the episode.

2. Fanatics Fest and Social Gatherings

Duration: 05:43 – 12:07

Savon recounts his experience at Fanatics Fest and the 40 pop-up event, emphasizing the overcrowded conditions and the lack of personal connections despite the large gatherings.

Savon ([14:20]): "Shout out to Sean on an incredible season. One of only four to achieve what he did this year."

The hosts reflect on the communal aspects of such events, balancing appreciation for meeting old friends with the frustrations of impersonal large crowds.

3. NBA Finals and Tyrese Halliburton's Injury

Duration: 12:07 – 21:05

A significant portion of the conversation centers around the NBA Finals, specifically addressing Tyrese Halliburton's Achilles tear and its implications for his career and the Oklahoma City Thunder's prospects.

Savon ([19:09]): "Prayers to Tyrese Halliburton. Speedy recovery. Healthy, full recovery to him."

The discussion touches on the strategic moves within the NBA, the impact of player injuries on team dynamics, and the overall sentiment surrounding the Finals' viewership.

4. Cardi B's Upcoming Album and Hip-Hop Trends

Duration: 21:05 – 58:24

Rory, Savon, and Baby D delve into the anticipation surrounding Cardi B's sophomore album, "Am I the Drama?" They critique the album's rollout strategy, expressing concerns over its rushed release and the reliance on high-profile features like Lil' Kim and Megan Thee Stallion.

Savon ([30:37]): "Nick Grant is one of the few rappers that still does his hooks. Support real rap. Support real hip hop."

The hosts explore the broader themes of authenticity in hip-hop, the influence of AI in music production, and the shifting dynamics of female dominance in the rap industry.

5. Authenticity and AI in Music

Duration: 58:24 – 74:42

The conversation shifts to the role of artificial intelligence in music, particularly in the creation of music videos. They discuss Erica Badu and Alchemist's use of AI for their visualizer, debating the ethical implications and the audience's reception.

Baby D ([35:22]): "They stay told Al, we're never even listening to keep it thorough again."

This segment highlights the tension between technological advancement and artistic integrity, questioning whether AI enhances or detracts from the creative process.

6. Friendship, Financial Struggles, and Mental Health

Duration: 74:43 – 87:58

The hosts open up about personal experiences related to financial hardships and the strain it can place on friendships. Savon shares a poignant story about declining a financial loan from a friend, leading to a lasting impact on their relationship.

Savon ([69:04]): "This is the moment. Like, y'all gotta do it now. You don't wanna be around when the person that is on their last feels like, yo, it's now or never."

Concurrent discussions emphasize the importance of mental health, especially during Men's Mental Health Month, advocating for openness and seeking professional help.

Baby D ([77:07]): "If you're a man and you're feeling the weight of the world, the strongest thing you can do is ask for help."

7. Local Politics and Community Concerns

Duration: 87:58 – 100:36

Bianca Cunningham's campaign for the Stockton City Council is highlighted, with Rory providing an overview of her background and policy focuses, such as union support and education reform.

Rory ([86:06]): "She led her coworkers to form a union, making them the first unionized retail workers in the company."

The discussion critiques the effectiveness of charter schools and the environmental challenges within industrial neighborhoods, advocating for more substantial community interventions.

8. Lifestyle Choices and Consumer Habits

Duration: 100:36 – 103:01

In a lighter segment, the hosts debate denim brands, expressing preferences for classic, non-distressed jeans over trendy styles. This conversation serves as a respite from the heavier topics, showcasing the hosts' relatable daily concerns.

Baby D ([82:54]): "I don't need rips on my thighs. I'm 35."

9. Final Thoughts and Closing Remarks

Duration: 103:01 – End

As the episode winds down, Rory, Savon, and Baby D reflect on the importance of staying cool amidst the literal and metaphorical heat, urging listeners to prioritize their well-being during challenging times.

Savon ([100:36]): "Stay cool as best you can. Stay in the house. The AC on it."

They conclude with community shoutouts, expressions of support for recovering friends, and encouragement to engage in local events and elections.

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Notable Quotes:

• Savon ([03:52]): "How long is the trip to Paris? Same as London. About six, seven hours maybe."

• Savon ([19:09]): "Prayers to Tyrese Halliburton. Speedy recovery. Healthy, full recovery to him."

• Savon ([30:37]): "Nick Grant is one of the few rappers that still does his hooks. Support real rap. Support real hip hop."

• Baby D ([35:22]): "They stay told Al, we're never even listening to keep it thorough again."

• Savon ([69:04]): "This is the moment. Like, y'all gotta do it now. You don't wanna be around when the person that is on their last feels like, yo, it's now or never."

• Baby D ([77:07]): "If you're a man and you're feeling the weight of the world, the strongest thing you can do is ask for help."

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This episode of "New Rory & MAL" offers a blend of personal stories, critical discussions on current events, and thoughtful insights into the music and sports industries. Listeners are treated to a candid exploration of the challenges and triumphs that come with navigating a rapidly changing world, all while maintaining the podcast's signature humor and relatability.

Transcript

[Rory]

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[Mal]

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[Baby D]

The volume no Worry now in June.

[Rory]

Yeah yeah, he Getting his presence out the way. As he should as a man.

[Savon]

As the man.

[Baby D]

Yeah. I never want to hear a woman say as a man to me ever again.

[Savon]

As a man.

[Baby D]

Yeah. Stay out of men's business.

[Savon]

That's how I feel as I feel the same way.

[Baby D]

And don't call his males. It's offensive. Anyways, we are back. Sponsored by Boost are back. Top of the top. Happy. Top of the week. Or whenever you are listening to this.

[Savon]

Happy may be Monday through Sunday. Yeah, I know one thing. It's hot in New York. Listen, it feel like do the right thing outside. Y' all remember watching do the right Thing?

[Baby D]

Of course.

[Savon]

That's what it feel like outside.

[Baby D]

You feel the heat from the tv.

[Savon]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's most gonna be one of them weeks, man. Not a lot of people getting killed. Yeah, you know how it go.

[Baby D]

But you saying that. But you took flights to change the forecast. Yo, listen, I saw Mall on Saturday, right? He hits me today and says, yo, my flight was delayed. I'll be there at this time. I said, I. I just saw you on Saturday.

[Savon]

I just saw you Saturday.

[Baby D]

Did you take a day trip on a plane?

[Savon]

Go quick. One day in and out of town, man.

[Baby D]

Paris real quick. Go see Beyonce. Something light.

[Savon]

Rory asked me if I went to Paris. I'm like, rory, if you think I went to Paris for a day and turned around, you're crazy.

[Baby D]

That's the life of Maldon.

[Savon]

Nah. No, it's not. That's a sick turnaround. Flying from New York.

[Baby D]

Is that even possible?

[Savon]

Yeah, you could definitely fly to New York for the day. How long to Paris or the day from New York.

[Baby D]

How long is the trip to Paris?

[Savon]

Same as London. About six, seven hours maybe.

[Baby D]

Nah, you got. You're. You're definitely going past your 24 hours at that point.

[Savon]

Yeah.

[Baby D]

Getting your luggage, going to see Beyonce. You got to turn back around, catch.

[Savon]

The first flight out in the morning from New York.

[Rory]

Well, I thought he had with Jay.

[Baby D]

Well, that's what I assumed when he had Maul said that. But then he was like, oh, we were waiting on the Runway. I was like, they would never do that to Mall and Jay.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Baby D]

So I was like, oh, he had to fly commercial.

[Savon]

I thought I flew to Paris with Jay for. For his set.

[Baby D]

Yeah.

[Savon]

I promise you, I did not.

[Baby D]

We were all together Saturday, and then he popped up in Paris. I was like, mal probably wouldn't win him.

[Savon]

Nah, nah, definitely didn't go to Paris. Would have loved to be there.

[Baby D]

Seven hours, 30 minutes. Plus the six hours ahead. No fucking way.

[Savon]

That's a crazy turnaround. That's a crazy turnaround.

[Baby D]

Ball said, I don't love Beyonce that much. I said I don't love Amara that much.

[Savon]

Yeah, yeah, you can't. Paris for the day.

[Rory]

I love Beyonce that much.

[Savon]

I would have did it to flop for a day. That's crazy.

[Rory]

To see Jay Z perform n. In Paris. In Paris, you know?

[Savon]

Yeah, yeah. But not.

[Rory]

If I'd had to use my own way to get there.

[Savon]

I'd have did it for one day.

[Rory]

Yes.

[Baby D]

I'll stick to the footage.

[Savon]

I'm not. Yeah, I'm not doing that.

[Baby D]

Like, private. Cool.

[Savon]

But yeah, if you fly. If you got it. If you fly private like that. Oh, then that's. That's. Because that's great.

[Rory]

That's, like, out of flow economy now.

[Savon]

You're crazy.

[Rory]

Standby.

[Savon]

You're crazy.

[Baby D]

I'll catch up my life.

[Savon]

Yeah, like, I'll catch you on where I caught it at Instagram, like.

[Baby D]

Or I just won't go.

[Savon]

Yeah, like, are you crazy now? No, I'm not doing that.

[Baby D]

All right, well, you took a little day trip. You know, we want to say what location, but, yeah, a little tight turnaround.

[Savon]

A little turn around. Just went to go support a friend for the day. He opened. Opened the store down. Well, I'm not gonna say where I was at, but he opened the store, so I went just to go support for the day and came right back to New York. That's all.

[Baby D]

He's hiding the support.

[Rory]

Yeah. Like, damn, why you ain't seen Katie? Tell us about him.

[Baby D]

Like, you're not there no more.

[Savon]

No, no, no.

[Baby D]

You're here.

[Savon]

No, my boy opened the store.

[Rory]

You don't want to say, like, the.

[Savon]

Name of the store.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Savon]

Do I have to?

[Baby D]

Well, I don't know. Give us money for an ad?

[Savon]

No. Yeah.

[Rory]

You know him and be some old friends.

[Baby D]

Did he open up? Did you open a Boost Mobile?

[Savon]

No. No, he did. I wish he did. No, he did not. Yeah. No. I just want to support my homeboy. And came back okay. Yeah.

[Baby D]

Had a little fun, too.

[Savon]

Nah, not really fun. Like dinner and back to the hotel. It wasn't nothing crazy.

[Baby D]

I christened a kid.

[Rory]

You did?

[Savon]

Your godfather. Oh, congrats.

[Baby D]

As of yesterday. That was fun.

[Savon]

Yeah. How was that?

[Baby D]

It was cool.

[Savon]

Did the baby.

[Baby D]

I didn't do anything.

[Savon]

Did the baby get scared when they poured that cold water?

[Baby D]

No, she did well. Yeah, she actually did really well. And it was weird. I didn't know that. They're just, like, pumping Christenings out together. Like, they must have got a group rate.

[Savon]

Yeah, it's like. It's like when you go to hibachi. Exactly. Like, they gotta wait for, like, other families to come sit down. That's exactly what it was. They wait for other families to come sit down. Like, no, no, no. We gotta wait three more.

[Baby D]

Then we. On the other family's time of like, is everyone here yet? They're like, no. I'm like, but we're ready and we've been here.

[Savon]

Yeah. No, you gotta wait. You gotta wait for the whole thing to fill up. And then the pastor gets to.

[Rory]

You know, you're supposed to be my baby godfather. So who. Child, did you know you can be.

[Baby D]

A godfather more than once?

[Rory]

That's fine. But mine was supposed to be the first who's.

[Baby D]

Well, you gotta hurry up.

[Savon]

You got no kids.

[Rory]

But if they were coming, yeah.

[Savon]

Baby D, why you know me so good? You saw what I was about to get into, baby.

[Rory]

Snatched a word down that nigga throat. For real.

[Savon]

Like, yo, baby, I was about to fry you up real quick. Was about to light you up. Baby D. I'm in them close friends now. Thank you, Baby D. I know all your business now. I know if fun community. Oh, my God, I'm so happy I'm in. Baby D, close friends welcome.

[Baby D]

I didn't know I did.

[Savon]

She didn't have me in. She let me in the club finally. Like, I. Baby D, I ain't snitching. I ain't saying nothing. I'm just watching. I'm just watching. I ain't saying what's so crazy.

[Baby D]

Somebody I met for the first time on Saturday text me that you were in her close friends. Yeah, like, this was national news.

[Savon]

Apparently, I'm in Baby D, close friend shout out to me. Making it to Baby D close friend.

[Rory]

It was an accident. My. You was not supposed to be.

[Savon]

Damn. I'm kicked out. Yo, that's. Come on, baby.

[Rory]

I looked in that. That said ma. I said, how the. Did mall see this?

[Savon]

I see that's something. I ain't even respond. I ain't even make my. You know what I'm saying? I'm in the cut. I'm just chilling. Same way if I'm. I go out somewhere, I'm in the cut. Y' all don't even know I'm here. I'm minding my business. I ain't saying nothing. But I was about to fry you up real quick off that comment, though.

[Rory]

I appreciate that. The kid, the children 1.

[Savon]

Eventually, the children are our future.

[Baby D]

Yes, but who.

[Rory]

Who's whose child?

[Baby D]

Not anyone that anyone would know.

[Rory]

Oh, okay.

[Baby D]

I mean, yeah, like, you knew them for a while.

[Savon]

Yes.

[Baby D]

It's preschool.

[Rory]

Oh.

[Savon]

Like, you know, baby, you ain't run out. How long you knew this person?

[Baby D]

Like, my mom went, too.

[Rory]

All right.

[Savon]

Oh, so this was a real christening.

[Baby D]

Oh, yeah, for sure.

[Savon]

Okay. Yeah.

[Baby D]

And the whole time I was thinking, like, should I bring Amara? Because that would be great. They both get along. That's like one of her. Her best friends now, too. It's cute and all that, but I'm like, she's gonna ruin this christening. Yeah, I was right.

[Savon]

Yo, Rory. I love Rory. Cause he's such a great dad. But what Rory has to learn is everything is not for the kid. We were at Fanatics Fest Saturday.

[Rory]

No. Fuck.

[Savon]

We get in there. Rory was like, yo. And I thought about bringing Amara first. I said, rory, if you would have brought Amara to this, you know how crazy it was in there. Now, some areas was cool.

[Baby D]

Yeah.

[Savon]

But we went to the 40. 40 pop up.

[Baby D]

Okay.

[Savon]

That was not for Amara.

[Baby D]

When I went to the 4040 pop up last year, it was way calmer than it was when you and I went.

[Savon]

4040 this Saturday.

[Baby D]

Yeah, 4040 would have said, this is at capacity. I thought the booth walls were gonna fall down.

[Savon]

It was crazy in there.

[Baby D]

I was looking for the fire marshal. I was like, is this up to code? Because I feel like I'm gonna die in here.

[Rory]

Who invited y' all? Cuz I was wondering why the y' all ain't invited me. Who invited y' all?

[Savon]

Where to 4040.

[Rory]

Pop up to Fanatics Fest.

[Baby D]

Rory.

[Savon]

Well, Sean. Sean was in town. Shout out to Sean. I went to. I went to the. To the Yankee game with Sean. Was that Friday? Friday. Went to the Yankee game with Sean Friday. Sean is from Baltimore. The Orioles. And the Yankees were playing, and the Orioles won. Like, look, we got y' all. The next night, though, Sean kicked y' all ass. Nine. Oh. But we went to the Yankee game Friday. And then when I was at the game, Sean was like, yo, y' all coming to Fanatics Fest tomorrow? I was like, I didn't really plan on it. Sean was like, nah, pull up, like. You know what I'm saying? Chop it up. Whatever. I was like, I bet Rory gets there. Rory gets there. He's like, yo, I'm on my way. I'm gonna get there by 2 o' clock. I was like, I don't know if I'm Gonna get there that early. I was. I wasn't gonna go. Once I found out it was over at 7. I'm like, all right. It's like 3:30. Oh, my God. I could pull up. So I went. Met Rory there. Sean was there, seen a bunch of my homies. It was cool. It was a good day. It was a lot of people I hadn't seen in a minute from the city. So it was cool.

[Baby D]

Popping out a lot of rock chains, a lot of secret handshakes amongst them, you know, I was just a cool outsider.

[Savon]

It was just, yo, I haven't seen my homies in a minute. What's up, man? How y' all been? That's all. It was a good day, though.

[Baby D]

And I will say I'm glad that it's not just us that has the view of you never going outside. Because, you know, a lot of people that. That know you from rock were like, yo, where's Maul? I was like, oh, you're on the way. Like, no, he ain't everybody. No, he ain't.

[Savon]

That's because, like, yo, pull up, like, all right, I'm about to head over there.

[Baby D]

And I did the gold couch photo, and I told Lenny. I was like, oh, well, like, when Maul get here, we'll do the Rory Maul. When he's like, no, I ain't coming.

[Savon]

Yeah, man, that's bad. When know I'm not like pop, but I like that, though. I like that when I do show up, there's a surprise. Like, yeah, that means if anybody looking for me, they ain't going to know where I'm at. Yeah.

[Baby D]

Even. Even when I was. I was next to Von and said, I'm about to go grab Maul at the door. He said, maul is not here.

[Savon]

Yeah. Yeah. It was cool, though. It was definitely cool seeing. Seeing the homies. We had a good time. It was a lot of fun in there.

[Rory]

Yeah, I'm happy y' all did.

[Savon]

That's good.

[Rory]

Y' all had a good weekend. Everybody had a good weekend. Peach had a good weekend.

[Savon]

Peach? What Peach did this weekend? No, Peach, you was playing basketball this weekend. You was in the park.

[Baby D]

We was at the 44. He was in Marcy. For real.

[Rory]

Damn.

[Savon]

Yeah. Yeah, y' all. Where now? Y' all not even from Brooklyn no more.

[Baby D]

I'm in Brooklyn.

[Savon]

I'm still in the projects. Word.

[Baby D]

I will say, though, I haven't been outside in quite some time. Music is still the same. I was, like, waiting to hear, like, what the new records would be at Parties. It's same. Things haven't changed.

[Savon]

Yeah. Same music, same same people. It's the same. You don't miss. That's why I don't go out. Because you're not missing nothing when you don't go out. Like, what are you. What do you. When you. When you haven't gone out? Rory, when did somebody tell you something that happened? He was like, damn, I missed it.

[Baby D]

Oh, it's been a very long time.

[Savon]

That don't even happen. People don't even tell you something happened. You'd be like, word, damn, I should have been there. You don't even say that no more. I should have been there.

[Baby D]

Yeah. And I mean, even though I had a good time, it was good to see a lot of people I hadn't seen in a minute. I left the 40 40. Like, that was a cool event. I probably could have stayed home.

[Savon]

Yeah, definitely could have stayed.

[Baby D]

But, I mean, I had fun.

[Savon]

But it was. It's cool sometimes, just getting outside and, you know, hanging out with the homies for a little while. But then everybody had a party that night, and I was like, yeah, I'm definitely not doing. No, no after parties. That's not happening. Came to say what's up? Had some water, smoked a little weed right back to the crib.

[Baby D]

Saw Savon.

[Savon]

Oh, you.

[Baby D]

Oh, yeah, yeah, me and Savon kicked it for a little bit. Shout out to Savon. That was fun. Yeah, it was good to catch up with him. But other than that, it was just regular. I mean, chasing first choice DJ. But the DJs before. I'm not here to, like, disrespect them, but it's gotta be weird. Like playing 75 Jay Z songs in a row for Jay Z. Like, the whole time I was like, maybe. Like, I'm sure Jay Z likes other music besides himself.

[Savon]

Definitely. Like, other music beside themselves. Yeah.

[Baby D]

Like, you really think Jay Z wants to hear Empire State of Mind right now?

[Rory]

Yeah, that's awkward.

[Savon]

And nobody in here wants, like, once.

[Baby D]

Choice and Chase got. I was like, oh, thank God. New music's like. And I love a Jay Z set, don't get me wrong. But.

[Savon]

But it got to be the right Jay Z set. Yeah, not Empire State of Mind. You don't play that on the J set. Like, you don't you get into the. Where I'm from. Marcy, son, I don't want to hear.

[Baby D]

Forever Young at 2pm @ Fanatics in the Javits Center.

[Rory]

No, they were playing that.

[Baby D]

No, I'm exaggerating with her Empire State of Mind definitely played. If somebody would have put on Forever Young, I would have walked out of the Javits Center.

[Savon]

Forever Young at a party is crazy.

[Baby D]

But, yeah, I don't know. It was cool.

[Savon]

Good day. So. So. So West Coast Wilson. Elliott Wilson.

[Rory]

Oh, really?

[Savon]

Yeah. So West Coast Wilson, man, you know, shout out to west coast whenever. Whenever west coast is on the East Coast. It's always. It's always good to see him. Shout out to West Coast Wilson.

[Baby D]

He hit me. Tell everyone to hit me. Sunday, are you going back?

[Savon]

I'm like, no, no, yo, you going back.

[Rory]

It's funny.

[Savon]

One day is enough for me, but shout out to Fanatics Fest. It was. It was packed. It was good to see. You know, a lot of people there at the 4040 pop up. Shout out to the family. Everybody that I saw Saturday, it was good to see people. And the weather was great. Saturday, it wasn't too hot.

[Rory]

It was really nice.

[Savon]

Today is just a whole different thing, though. Today is. It's like walking outside into the oven and the bathroom when you had the hot water running in the shower for like 20 minutes.

[Rory]

And we live in New York City, so it's like after you had the hot water running, when you just took it.

[Savon]

And then there's garbage on the sidewalk. So now we at the garbage. Now we have when the garbage cooks.

[Baby D]

Yeah.

[Savon]

From being on the sidewalk all day. We at that level. Just summertime in New York.

[Baby D]

Halal exhaust just pumping out, just stinking.

[Savon]

You know what I mean? You gotta take a shower immediately. Especially if you have on shorts. Cause you feel like all the bus exhaust and car exhaust flying on your legs. And y' all, it's just nasty times. Wash your ass. Is.

[Baby D]

All I'm saying is, is this a safe space?

[Savon]

This is a very safe space.

[Rory]

No, it ain't.

[Baby D]

Okay.

[Savon]

This is a. Yeah, you let some people tell it, right.

[Baby D]

Is it. Is it gay?

[Rory]

Yes.

[Savon]

Whenever you gotta lead with that, whenever you gotta leave with, yo, is it gay? That means you already think it's gay.

[Baby D]

Is it gay that. When I saw Tom Brady, I said, wow, he's bigger than I thought.

[Savon]

Oh, my God.

[Rory]

Oh, my.

[Savon]

That might be beyond gay. Like, you might have to go to Pride Week. Like, you might have to go. Like, you might need a float in the parade next year. Hey. Oh, you ever, like, please, this week, I'm coming out. I want.

[Baby D]

Hey, I got. I got two more weeks.

[Savon]

Yeah, yo, that is.

[Baby D]

Yo, have you ever had, like, a thought that you didn't even control and then, like, question yourself? In your own brain. Like, I thought to myself in my head, why did I just think that?

[Savon]

Yeah, Nasty nastiness.

[Baby D]

Like I shame myself in my head. Like, why would that be your first thought?

[Savon]

See, that's good. As long as you shame yourself from the thoughts.

[Baby D]

The natural reaction. Yeah, I know he's one of the greatest athletes of all time. NFL quarterback. But I just, I, I, that's a unit, man.

[Savon]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Jesus sick.

[Savon]

He's a unit. Have some shame, will you?

[Baby D]

I mean, and he's also standing next to Mark Wahlberg, who I thought another unit. Yes, but I said smaller than I thought.

[Rory]

Hey, all right, bro. You was just having.

[Baby D]

They'll still whoop my ass. But I didn't know we, we. Like I was taller.

[Savon]

Oh, my God. That is crazy.

[Baby D]

But yeah, that was, that's what you.

[Savon]

Was at the Fanatics festival, thinking in your head.

[Baby D]

And you know what made it even gayer? I was holding a Doucet espresso martini.

[Savon]

Oh, yeah. Yeah. At that point, you might as well just put on some leather chaps with the ass out.

[Baby D]

And I ordered it because I was like, I didn't know those existed. And I ordered it to hate. And I took a sip and I was like, this is delicious. I was like, cognac and, and this is not.

[Savon]

I was like, yeah, they did something pretty good. Pretty good.

[Baby D]

Started tingling.

[Savon]

Baby D, where you was at Saturday.

[Baby D]

You saw the close friends I went to.

[Rory]

So I went to. So I went to Jersey, to the spa, to Sojo. Spa was in their infinity pool and sauna and all of those things. Just really relaxing. And then I went to dinner. Me and Alex got taken to dinner. And we.

[Savon]

Me and Alex got taken to dinner.

[Rory]

Me and Alex got taken to dinner because people know that we're a package deal. And then we got taken to a strip club. And we were at the strip club, it was empty. At some strip club called Dream. That's how I know I'm not an outside girl no more. I didn't even know that exactly existed.

[Baby D]

It's in Queens or in the city.

[Rory]

In Queens. So we went there and, you know, got. We had some money, threw some money and went home.

[Baby D]

You threw. You throw you and Alex's money or.

[Savon]

Nah, no, they got here when they. She said, we got taken to dinner and they got taken to a strip club.

[Baby D]

Don't you love when they're a package deal?

[Savon]

That means Boost Mobile followed them around. Yes. For sponsoring Baby D's dinner and strip club night. Shout out to Boost Mobile. Unlimited talk, text and data for $25 a month.

[Baby D]

I mean, that's how she uploaded the video to her close friends.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Savon]

Yeah.

[Baby D]

All that data.

[Savon]

Yeah. Unlimited data. Absolutely.

[Rory]

Exactly. So that was. It was cool. I had a. I had a good night. I was home by 2 o' clock.

[Savon]

All right. Baby D. Baby D was home by two. I know, I know.

[Baby D]

No wonder the strip club was empty. You went at 7pm Yeah, I went. No, we went.

[Savon]

We literally.

[Rory]

We went at 12 and I was like, tired. I was yawning. TT ain't. Can't be out that late no more with these y. I can't.

[Baby D]

I I TT Huh.

[Rory]

Anyway, Alex Halbert and Damn. Hater.

[Savon]

Hater. Had to be Halbert and dam is hilarious. It's a damn shame what happened to Tyrese, ain't it?

[Baby D]

Yep.

[Savon]

Damn. Another one bites the dust. Well, Tyrese Halbert, well, he blew. That's what, the ninth Achilles tear this year.

[Baby D]

As much as I hate him, I don't want to see his career end.

[Savon]

No, I don't. I don't either. But that's.

[Baby D]

It's still. Fuck him, but, like, I hope for a speedy recovery.

[Savon]

Well, first and foremost, before we do that, congratulations to the OKC Thunder on their first championship.

[Baby D]

Thank you for beating the Pacers.

[Savon]

Shout out to Shay on an incredible season. One of only four to achieve what he did this year. So shout out to him on an incredible, incredible season. But also prayers to Tyrese Halliburton. He did. They announce it that he blew his Achilles. So it's been announced that. I felt like that after Game 5 when he was grabbing his leg. I'm like, anytime you see an athlete grab that lower leg, non contact, you just fall. It's something tricky there. But last night he did. He did. Tears Achilles. So prayers to Tyrese Halliburton. Speedy recovery. Healthy, full recovery to him. And it's just sad to see him go down like that last game of the season and now he's going to miss another. An entire upcoming season.

[Baby D]

So was that the most boring finals that went seven games in the history of the NBA?

[Savon]

It was definitely because I was telling somebody this might be the first time that the finals were on and I wasn't in front of the TV when it started.

[Baby D]

I felt like nobody gave a fuck.

[Savon]

Seven for all seven of the games. I may have caught second quarter. I missed the first quarter in every one of these games.

[Baby D]

Of course. New York bias alert. I'm curious to see what the numbers were between the Eastern Conference championship and the NBA finals.

[Savon]

As far as viewership oh, no, the viewership.

[Baby D]

I'm curious what it was.

[Savon]

The viewership between the Knicks and Pacers was probably three times higher than, I won't be surprised than the Finals. Without a doubt that it just is what it is. The rivalry, the history between the Knicks and Pacers alone makes it, you know, tv. Must see tv. Yeah, but, you know, that's.

[Baby D]

And Ben Stiller was there.

[Savon]

Yeah. I mean, come on, anytime you got Ben sitting courtside, you got to watch. But, you know, not to take away nothing from the Finals. Good to see, you know, a team that never wanted finally win. And, you know, shout out to the. Shout out to okc. Man, I don't know what they're gonna look like next season, though, because a lot of teams is making moves. Kevin Durant's in Houston now.

[Baby D]

Well, I mean, is the rumors true that you were the one that in fact told him at Fanatics Fest that he had been traded? That's. That's rumors. There was things I didn't even see spiraling around.

[Savon]

I didn't even see it.

[Baby D]

I heard you broke the news to him.

[Savon]

No, I did not break the news to him.

[Baby D]

By the loading dock, he was just like, yo.

[Savon]

No, I didn't see kd, but I did see that he was there. So. Shout out to KD. I saw Draymond.

[Baby D]

Yeah, it's on.

[Savon]

Draymond at the 40 label, mate. Yeah, shout out to Draymond. But yeah, this, this series, this, this. I don't know what the NBA is gonna do, man. I think the NBA is in a bad spot. I'm gonna be honest. Like, the viewership, you know, once guys like LeBron, Steph, KD, once these guys are done, I just don't see that next. Because as much as I love Shai's game, I think he's a great player. I just don't know if it's box office, if it's must see basketball.

[Baby D]

Anthony Edwards may end up being that. We'll see. But I'm with you. The same way I feel about rap and superstars. I feel the same way with the NBA. Things are just changing.

[Savon]

I love Luka's game. I don't know what his game looks like in la. Yeah, I don't know, man. I just, you know, just thinking about the fact that this is the first finals where I missed the first quarter in every game. Didn't rush to get to the tv. Like, you know, when the finals is on, you, you at the tv, you wanna. You mad if you missed the first quarter.

[Baby D]

It was in the background yesterday.

[Savon]

Like, I know when the game is on and I'm just like, all right. Like, I'll catch the second quarter. Like, it's just. It wasn't like I had to watch the game now. The games were good. The games were, you know, close for the most part, but it just wasn't. It wasn't must see TV for me. But I am happy that okc1. I did want them to win, so I'm happy that they won.

[Baby D]

I feel like Jim Jones got more traffic over the weekend than the NBA Finals.

[Savon]

Yeah, yeah, I think so.

[Baby D]

What's up with our guy, man?

[Savon]

Listen, love Jim, friend of the show, New York legend, Harlem legend, Bronx legend. But Jim gotta be trolling us at this point, right? He gotta be trolling us.

[Baby D]

This was the thing. When I saw the clip initially, I was like, oh, had to have been taken out of context. Let me watch the entire thing. No, same as the clip.

[Savon]

Yeah, but he got it.

[Baby D]

I was like, no, there must be another point here or whatever. Now he doubled down on it.

[Savon]

No, cause he just. See, this is why I know Jim is trolling, because he posted a video of him when he first woke up in the bed. And he was laughing like, you know, like, look, all I gotta do is say something and I'm the talk of the town. That was a day of, I think, Summer jam, you know, I mean. Yeah, the day of Summer Jam. So, yeah, Jim is just trolling, man. Jim is.

[Baby D]

But I love that he initially said that let's pull out just the Billboard submissions and everything. And then that was debunked within.001 seconds.

[Savon]

Yeah.

[Baby D]

And then Jim came back. So, yeah, I was wrong about that. But everything else I was right about, I was like, jim is bugging, but I fuck with him.

[Savon]

He trolling, man. Jim is having fun, man. He just. He know how to get the Internet going. And you know, listen, man, that's. That's just. That's just the time that we in now. It's just, you know, just shake the Internet up, get everybody talking.

[Baby D]

Well, with the rumors that Nas may be like. May be on this clips album, we're not sure. Do we think that's why Jim's just randomly shooting at Nas? No, I think, like, where does this even come from? I know he was talking with. With Joe and Jada about the. But like, why hone in on Nas? Him and.

[Savon]

Him and Nas have always had a little.

[Baby D]

He was on the koofy list.

[Savon]

Yeah, they had a little funny. They've always had a little Funny energy between them. I don't know where it is today, but years ago, Nas even addressed it. Like, why would I ever even dis. Like, why would I sit down and take time to diss Jim Jones? Like, that type of thing?

[Baby D]

Like, well, it was initially Cam and Nas, and then obviously Jim, being loyal, hopped in, but he just kept. Like. Even Cam was like, nah, we cool now. And Jim was like, nah, fuck that.

[Savon]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. They've always had a little weird energy between them, so maybe that has something to do with it. But I think, you know, like, Jim is just. He just. He know how to get shit going on the Internet. And that's. That's what this is about, man. It's about, you know, getting traction, getting attention on the Internet and, you know, doing what you got to do as a result of getting that traffic.

[Baby D]

I mean, he said it on his IG story yesterday initially, like, it was a troll.

[Savon]

Of course it was a troll, man.

[Baby D]

It was like, this is how you get headlines.

[Rory]

Which.

[Baby D]

But I mean, I. All right, cool. I get it. That's the game now. I mean, like, even with certain titles for our YouTube, like, you play the game. But like, why that? But you such a weird one to land on.

[Savon]

No, but that's why. But that's why I knew it was trolling when he said it. I'm like, Jim knows that that's not true. He know he don't have more Billboard entries than Nas. Like, he knows that. He knew that before when he said it. He is not like, he thought he did. Like, he know you as an artist, you know how many Billboard entries you have versus an artist like Nas? You know that you don't have the more entries than Nas.

[Baby D]

And. And Jim is super smart. That's how I know. That was just the in the moment thing because his explanation didn't make any sense. He's like, my son can't name a Nas songs. Like, okay, a lot of sons can't name your song. Where are we going with this?

[Savon]

Yeah, yeah, no, that's just troll, man. But it was fun to watch, man. It's entertainment. That's all it is.

[Baby D]

Did you see that? Stiles and Jada are kicking him out of the meteorology world, even though they're all being friends. I think something is afoot. No pun intended.

[Savon]

Thousand Jada doing the weather now.

[Baby D]

They said this. It's over for Jim style. Said, my foot can't even go that fast. But.

[Savon]

I would like to see styles and kids do well through the weather. Back and forth on the humidity versus the barometer. You know what I'm saying?

[Baby D]

Like, I mean, listen, you know, you guys know how much I love Jim and how much I think the second half of his career has been incredible. He has been going after Styles, Pull, push, a T and N. Look at the three that Jim landed on.

[Rory]

Listen, them, the real big three, probably.

[Baby D]

Those are just three people. You should just leave the alone.

[Savon]

Like Styles and Nas. Like, yeah, that's a tough three to rap against. That's a tough three. You gonna have a hard out with that with those three, for sure.

[Baby D]

Even HOV would be like, all right, the three of them. I think I'm cool.

[Savon]

Yeah, like, that's kind of at the same time, yeah, that's tough. You don't want that problem.

[Baby D]

But I mean, we'll see. We already know that there's a gym disc coming on the clip from the Whips and Chainsaw. So I don't know, are you. Since Jim already replied to that because it was a leak, are you allowed to re reply once it goes on DSPs?

[Savon]

I mean, once somebody dis you, you can respond whenever, however you feel at that point. I don't think there's any rules to that. If you feel like you want to keep engage in that. That beef, then you'll do that. I don't know if Jim would, though. I don't know if he. Just because it's out now, I don't think he cares to. I think he may, maybe not in the song. He might get on IG and laugh a little bit and crack some jokes. Cause like he did when he sat down with Bootleg Kev at the bet about Ace Trumpets, he was like, you know, I don't believe him. Like, it's not a good song. I don't believe him. I don't believe nothing he's saying. So, like, things like that. I think Jim. I don't think he'll get in the booth and. And. And rap at Push It Up.

[Baby D]

I'm. I gave up on that a long time ago. Pushing Jim, no like believing rappers. I just. I don't even like, care anymore. Does it sound good? Well, yeah, of course, authenticity will always be the number one thing and you can see the difference when it's there. But like, I don't particularly care.

[Savon]

It matters though. I know what you're saying.

[Baby D]

It's not the end all be all.

[Savon]

No, it's not.

[Baby D]

And I'm not saying about push mouths. I have no idea what their actual real life stories is. I just know Push says That shit better than 99% of rappers when it comes to the coke talk.

[Savon]

But here's. This is where it gets tricky.

[Baby D]

And why should. Why would I be the one to be like, is it authentic?

[Savon]

I feel you. But it gets tricky when, say, somebody like. And I'm not saying Pusha did or did anything in real life, but somebody like Pusha, you know what his content is, you know what his style is, if none of what he's saying is real and he really did any of that, versus somebody who maybe doesn't rap as good as Pusha, but talks about the same thing and really did it.

[Baby D]

But those are few and far in between. Again, I don't want to make this a Pusha thing, but, like, Gzu was like, yeah, he probably did that shit and he could rap well, but there's plenty of guys that did that shit and they suck at rap, so I don't really give a fuck. And, like, at what point do we. What's the amount of brick that allows you to talk about it? Like, do I think Push was a kingpin? Probably not, but I'm sure he probably sold coke. So what's the. Where are you allowed to talk about it? Not.

[Savon]

I mean, it just depends.

[Baby D]

It's 92 bricks. Like, we're. But you, but over, under.

[Savon]

All right, so we gotta go back to what hip hop has always been. It's always been about telling your story.

[Baby D]

Yeah.

[Savon]

Or your experiences and what you see and what you. So you want to be as close to authentic and as close to real as possible. Now, it's entertainment. So when you throw the entertainment value in it, you embellish some things and you dress some things up to make it entertaining. But the foundation of what you're writing and what you're saying in your songs and in your rhymes, the foundation has to be as close to authentic and real as possible.

[Baby D]

I agree, but there are also entertainers that do. I think Nelly had the street sweeper in St. Louis and was clearing out blocks. No, but I think the hook's incredible. Then you also get some real authentic from him, too. But yeah, of course. Embellish. Like.

[Savon]

Yeah, no, embellish. You gotta invest entertainment. You gotta embellish, man. Hulk Hogan didn't have 42 inch pythons. You know, I mean, he didn't, but he was in the gym. He looked great.

[Baby D]

Listen, I still believe that Kiss's bathtub flips over walls doing 360.

[Savon]

I do believe that.

[Baby D]

Okay, so that's why, like, when J. Juan tweet, that's my guy. But, like, dog, you had Walls doing 360s when he was growing up.

[Savon]

Like, I just knew where Kiss lived and I knew that wasn't real in that building.

[Baby D]

So, yo, you know the housing codes of Westchester county, and that's not. It's not up to spec.

[Savon]

That's not real. But it's hard. Oh, I bought it. Sounds great. Like, you know what I mean? Like, I get it.

[Baby D]

But yeah, outside of the gym thing, there was a lot of great music that came out on Friday. Rhapsody, Mad Lib. Nick Grant took it personal. Incredible, incredible project.

[Savon]

Rap album of the year so far. Yeah, I like it a lot, Nick.

[Baby D]

I like it a lot.

[Savon]

Personal, definitely rap album of the year. It's not too many people that could rap better than Nick right now.

[Baby D]

I agree.

[Savon]

Like, as far as just Ramen Schemes, hooks, I love the fact that he's one of the few rappers that still does his hooks. He's just for the type of rap and hip hop I grew up on. Nick Grant is. And he's just an enjoyable listen for me as a personal hip hop consumer. Like, I just love listening to that type of rap, that type of style, that type of content. So, yeah, Nick Grant, I took it personal. Available now. Support real rap. Support real hip hop and, you know.

[Baby D]

Yeah.

[Savon]

So get back to rhyming, man. Real raps.

[Baby D]

Terrence Martin, Kenyon Dixon. Come as you are came out. Shout out to Terrence Martin Khali 47. Came out. I didn't know Juicy J and Logic of a joint project.

[Rory]

Yes.

[Baby D]

What the.

[Rory]

Why? Everybody was like, what the.

[Baby D]

Okay, shout out to Juicy J and Logic.

[Savon]

Juicy J and Logic have an album?

[Baby D]

Yeah, it's called Live and in Color.

[Rory]

Live and in Color.

[Baby D]

Why? Logic knew what he was doing here?

[Savon]

Of course he does, man. Another person.

[Baby D]

What color is he?

[Savon]

Living. He's in living color. That's what he is. That is. That's such a random.

[Baby D]

What's funny?

[Savon]

Like, Juicy J and Logic.

[Baby D]

Because I love Juicy J's beats so much. This project might be dope.

[Savon]

Oh, no.

[Baby D]

Juicy J, he may pull Logic back a bit.

[Savon]

And you know, you gotta listen to that just because that's so random. Yeah, I gotta hear what they did. Like, let me hear what. What?

[Baby D]

Who introduced y' all.

[Savon]

Yeah, like, I want to know the whole. Like, where's they roll out their interviews at together. Like, I want to hear how this project came about.

[Baby D]

Yeah. But I know a lot of great music. Reason I love you again. His extended deluxe, I guess.

[Savon]

Kaylee 47.

[Baby D]

Yep. Out now. And then Erica Badu and Alchemist. Go ahead.

[Rory]

No, no, no, I'll wait. Go ahead.

[Baby D]

Erica Bad doing Alchemist put out their first single for their joint project. And you guys tore them the apart.

[Rory]

No, really?

[Savon]

Oh, they. They released the first single.

[Baby D]

Yes. Which is great. Alchemist Flips Realness Beat. Erica did what Erica always does. Beautiful record. They also put out a visualizer with it that was created by AI where they're like cartoon figures, but, you know, not so much a lyric video, but yeah, visual to put put to the record. And boy, did it break hip hop's heart.

[Savon]

They wasn't feeling it.

[Baby D]

They stay told Al, we're never even listening to keep it thorough again, why they were smoking Alchemists to the point that I had to go back. I was like, wait, did I miss something? And like, this is Erica's with AI voice. And like he took his own beat and put it through AI and they were like telling the world that.

[Savon]

Yeah.

[Baby D]

And then they're like, no, no, it was, it was the, the video. I was like, all right, you know, I'm. I'm anti AI. But the that they were getting over the weekend was like, dog, what do we. There's bigger fish to fry. You saw Timberland's sorry ass apology. Let's focus on that.

[Savon]

Yeah, I didn't see.

[Baby D]

This is like, this is just normal.

[Rory]

That's like a normal visualizer.

[Baby D]

The people were, you know, they have to be outraged on the weekend especially, they were suggesting that they could have hired a real artist to do this and they put somebody out of work because of it and. Okay, cool. You may have a point there, but there's so many other AI issues that we have. I just don't think that a visualizer for Eryk Badu and Alchemist is like where we need to focus our outrage at people.

[Savon]

People want to be upset. We got to understand that too. They looking for the next thing to be upset about. But I mean, I guess if I'm an artist and I create videos, I guess I could see why an artist, you know, a video, somebody that creates music videos would be upset at this. Like, they probably feel like it's lazy. It's just like, you know, I can see why they would. The same reason why producers would be upset at Timberland for, you know, leaning into AI to make music. I can see.

[Baby D]

Steal it.

[Savon]

Yeah, I can see how, you know, it'll be like, nah, this is just a lazy. Like you could have got a real person to put together a cartoon visualizer for this. For this video, I. I can. I can see how some people would be upset. I get it. I understand it.

[Baby D]

Yeah.

[Savon]

But also, I can't be upset about a rapper using AI to write lyrics. And then, of course, not understand how some people are upset at all.

[Baby D]

Right. Then again, where do we draw the line? Because I'm assuming that Al and Erica are doing this independently. And of course, we know both of them are not short of any money. But, like, AI can be useful to independent artists when you have a specific budget. Like, yeah, I'm gonna utilize AI as an independent artist. Listen, in that regard, not for the music.

[Savon]

Right.

[Baby D]

And it's not even artificializer. Is it even. Like, some. Like, I was thinking, like, did they do some avatar? Like, yeah. Should James Cameron have been hired instead? Like, I. I was very confused on what everyone was outraged about. And then I saw this. I was like, they didn't even color in between the lines. Like, what are we talking about here?

[Savon]

Now I'm on the flip side. I would have been upset because I would have really wanted to see Al and Erica in a real video together.

[Baby D]

I'm sure there's going to be real.

[Savon]

Yeah, I mean, I'm sure they have some visualizer. This is like some quick visualizer. But that's what I would be saying. Not the fact that they use a. I would be like, damn, I wanted to see y' all together in the video. You know, I did.

[Baby D]

I did have a nice, nice moment over the weekend, though, because when the Internet was murdering me about the Dochi situation.

[Savon]

What happened now?

[Baby D]

No, this was when it happened before.

[Savon]

Oh, I thought you said this weekend.

[Baby D]

No, no, no.

[Savon]

When I just saw you.

[Baby D]

Saw you Saturday.

[Savon]

Just saw you. What the fuck happened?

[Baby D]

When the Internet was killing me, I was in my text having a blast. He thought it was the funniest thing in the world, all these laughing emojis. Right. When I saw that, even though I was defending him publicly when writing his text and say, yeah, your turn now.

[Savon]

Y. Yeah, sit your ass in the fire.

[Baby D]

Sit and get your talking to hot.

[Savon]

It's hot. Yeah, but the song is dope, though. I like this.

[Baby D]

It's fire.

[Savon]

Yeah.

[Baby D]

Really, really great. You know in the office when Michael goes, my, my. My turn. Yeah, sent that right over to Al.

[Savon]

Yeah, you got to do that.

[Baby D]

No worry about Mo. Have you ever signed up for a phone plan and thought, wow, this is a great price, and then you get your bill in the mail and it is way higher than they advertised.

[Savon]

Feel like I got shammed.

[Baby D]

That does not happen with Boost mobile you pay $25 a month forever. That's unlimited talk, text and data Starting.

[Savon]

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[Baby D]

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[Savon]

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[Savon]

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[Baby D]

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[Savon]

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[Rory]

A printout that you can read at your own pace. Megan. Yes, it's me. What a shock.

[Baby D]

Et cetera.

[Savon]

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[Rory]

All right, meat sacks, let's get to work. Are you going to stand in my way?

[Savon]

The bee is back.

[Rory]

You think you learned your lesson the first time? Megan.

[Savon]

Megan 2.0 only in theaters June 27th for DPT 13.

[Rory]

I just got me and pee. Just got word. The great Cardi B is dropping her album. September 19th. She made the announcement.

[Baby D]

Okay.

[Rory]

Dropped the COVID and everything. We outside.

[Baby D]

Can we pull up the COVID Yeah, yeah.

[Rory]

No, no. It's just called Am I the Drama? Cardi B. We outside just letting y' all know.

[Baby D]

Okay, so also on Friday.

[Savon]

So we got a date.

[Rory]

September 19th.

[Savon]

September 19th. Cardi B, the album, long anticipated, long awaited follow up to the hip hop.

[Baby D]

AI better not have done that cover. Go ahead. I'm sorry.

[Savon]

No, they really had a crow land on her.

[Baby D]

You did without.

[Savon]

Yeah, yeah, no, definitely.

[Rory]

So you were saying she looks amazing.

[Savon]

She looks good. Yeah. All right, Cardi B. Am I the drama? September 19th. All right. All right, Baby D. What's up?

[Baby D]

That's an interesting title.

[Savon]

Yeah, let's.

[Baby D]

I like the title.

[Savon]

Y' all know how long I've been waiting for this. I needed follow up.

[Rory]

You've been waiting just to talk shit, but we ain't gonna get into that.

[Savon]

Waiting to talk shit. I want to. I want to hear what Cardi's doing. Okay, Absolutely. I want to hear four. Four album from Cardi. I'm not one. I'm not waiting to talk. I'm going to talk my now. But I'm not waiting to talk like. But I do want to hear what Cardi does with her. With her sophomore project coming off of the success of the first one. I say it all the time. Like, I don't know many artists, especially rap, that have had the success off of one album that Cardi has. So we definitely needed a follow up. So now. Okay. Cardi B, Am I the drama? September 19th.

[Baby D]

Well, also on Friday, she put out, which I assume would be the first single outside without a video, which made me feel like it was rushed because I think Cardi's rollouts are best when they're paired with a visual record.

[Rory]

Probably because it got leaked originally.

[Baby D]

I mean, she had said that this wasn't planned and this and that, but I mean, we never know with that what artists are saying. We already know that there's some rumor of issues with Atlantic already. Like, was this something you think they Are forcing on her right now, I think so. Like, do we think Cardi feels like she's ready?

[Savon]

I think Cardi may have been ready. I think that they probably, you know, whatever. Because a lot of. A lot of people we know Roy, because we just have these relationships. But I feel like a lot of people that were in that building when Carti first arrived, that are no longer there now, are no longer there because they couldn't get this album out. So I feel like this album may have been done. A lot of the songs may have been done. They may have been fishing for a single scene which would. Took off what picked up steam. You know how they play that game, like, let's throw a couple records out and see what happens. Do some features, things like that. I think they was trying to figure it out with Carti, but I think most of this music has probably been. Because Cardi alluded to the music being done for a while a couple times.

[Rory]

I think they were banking on bongos being bigger than a buzz, I think.

[Baby D]

I think so.

[Rory]

Budget?

[Baby D]

Yeah, for sure.

[Savon]

I mean, anything Cardi does is gonna be a huge. Yeah.

[Baby D]

Why do you think bongos didn't work?

[Rory]

I don't know why? Because I loved bongos, personally.

[Baby D]

I thought it was a cool record.

[Rory]

Yeah. I don't know if it was because it was released at the wrong time. It gave summer record. If I'm not mistaken. Bongos was released maybe a little bit later in the year. I can't remember the date of when it was. I remember it being probably around. I was at the Tizo show, probably around September of 2023 or something around that time.

[Baby D]

So.

[Rory]

Yeah, I think it would have been better as a summer record. September.

[Savon]

September is the summer. It's the end of the summer.

[Rory]

Yes. I think if they would have put it out in May, June, I think it would have been a little bit different. But I don't know why I didn't. I don't know why I didn't want to.

[Savon]

Do y' all really. Do y' all really believe that, though?

[Baby D]

Believe what?

[Savon]

That if a record is, quote unquote, a summer record and it doesn't drop like the beginning of the summer, like, so if it doesn't take off, you can kind of lean on that like it was a summer record. They put it out the end of the. I think that good music is. I don't give a fuck what it's doing outside.

[Baby D]

Well, I mean, anytime.

[Savon]

Cause niggas gonna party and shake their ass. We done see niggas shake ass365 if a record is big and it's dope, it don't matter what it's doing outside. Like, it's. It's gonna be a hit.

[Rory]

Yeah, sometimes. But some records you need to hear in certain settings. That was a Caribbean based beat like we needed to hear. We needed to see women outside in the summer shaking ass to that. And I feel like.

[Baby D]

But even Wap, though being in the middle of COVID still worked like.

[Rory]

But WAP worked for multiple reasons. Wap is. Was huge. Outside of it being a good song. It has huge shock value. And the video was huge shock value. Like it was just a lot.

[Baby D]

I mean that's part the reason why I think Bongos. I'm sure by data, like if Cardi pulled up bongos, I'm sure, yes, it worked. But we're talking about like the momentum of going into an album. I love Megan's part on bongos, but I think they were setting themselves up for fit. Like, how do you top Wap? Yeah, like, even though Megan did great on that, I think Cardi should have picked somebody else for it. Because now it's like, all right, we're. We have our expectations at this with. Are we getting WAP Part two? Like obstacle isn't Wapden. You're just setting unrealistic expectations when you have a single like that with the two of them together.

[Rory]

I. I can understand that it is very hard to top.

[Baby D]

They smoked that video record school. Like they did everything right, I feel like. But it just didn't connect.

[Savon]

I'm scared for Cardi.

[Baby D]

I'm nervous too. Just because I personally feel I. I don't have any information. I feel like she's being rushed right now.

[Savon]

Yeah, I'm nervous for Cardi for a number of reasons.

[Baby D]

Outside was I. They just threw it out. Like.

[Savon]

Yeah, like, I. I don't just. It's just we. It just feels weird because again, obviously that the entire label, as far as the. The people that have been there that probably worked on her first project are no longer there.

[Baby D]

They're definitely all gone.

[Savon]

I just.

[Baby D]

That might be the difference between Kaiser and Julie versus the Grange family. Because they were like, all right, when Cardi's ready, we'll put. Put this out. Grangers came in and said, yo, you putting it up? Whatever's on your hard drive, give me 14 and we're good to go.

[Savon]

And that's where I'm nervous because, you know, you can't rush the artist if the artist doesn't feel. And there's nothing worse. And you can. You can attest this where you've put. Actually put music out in the marketplace. When you rush an artist and it doesn't work, that is the worst feeling for an artist because they're like, I didn't even want to put this.

[Baby D]

Didn't want to do this shit. Let me fail on my own.

[Savon]

Yeah, Like, I didn't even want to do this. So for that to happen, you know, for them to put Cardi's project out. But. But on the flip side, maybe she is ready. Maybe she's been ready and yeah, she's.

[Rory]

Finally getting her chances.

[Savon]

She's, you know, and now it's here. So now she's probably like, all right, cool. Like, let's. Let's get this shit out.

[Rory]

The only thing I'm nervous for when it comes to Cardi is female rap is not doing what female rap was doing when Cardi first dropped her album. No one is right. That wave has kind of. I don't want to say it's over, but the way things are marketing wise and the success that their singles are having and their albums are having, like, off first week, it's a completely different trajectory.

[Baby D]

The dominance is gone.

[Rory]

Yes, it's. Yeah, the dominance is gone. And what I don't want for her is for her to not reach what she did previously, because that's just very unlikely for anybody to reach what she did previously as far as the success of that first album, because that was an anomaly. It's not like, oh, I can do this and let me get better. Like, it was like, no, you one hell of a lick. You had the perfect album at the perfect time in the perfect climate for female rappers. Like, it was literally the perfect storm for that album to do what it did. And there's a good chance that no matter how good this one is, it won't hit that. And I don't want the criticism that she's going to get from people who don't know anything about the music industry or the way that music is selling right now to get to her and it stifle her creativity or make her not even want to be an artist anymore. Because we do know how sensitive Cardi is. So that's what I'm scared for. Do I think the album will do well? Yes. Do I think it'll do well first week? Not if they don't fix this rollout. But I do think that Cardi is known for making good music. And I think over time the sales will grow the same way that Dochis did and that Lotto's did or whatever. But I just don't want her to pay attention to metrics that don't really matter. That the stands and the fans are pushing on her. And for her to feel like she failed personally, no.

[Savon]

But this is. And this goes back to. You know, a lot of people tried to paint it like I was hating on Cardi. I love Cardi from the same town. I support her no matter what. But when you have the success that she had on her first one out the gate, it's hard to match that. You can grow towards that. But the success she had off the first album, like, what is. What is. What else is there to accomplish after that? You know? You get what I'm saying? It's like she got everything off the first album. The looks that she got, the awards that she got, the accolades. Everything is. She already has it. So now if this second album come out and she doesn't get those things, is that a failure?

[Rory]

That's what I'm saying.

[Savon]

But that's why I always land on the side of just let the music be dope. Fuck the accolades, fuck the metrics. Let the music be dope. Gotta develop more as an artist. Like the Dochi. I didn't even know that was. Y' all know I'm terrible with titles. That anxiety record, I didn't even know that was Dochi. I had no clue that that was a Dochi song. When I go in any department store, that shit is playing and I'm like, wait, that's Dochi. I'm thinking just rap when it come to Dolce, like, getting her bars off. So to hear that, this is where. Why you say female rap is not. Because now you have to do more than just rap as a female. Give us some melodies, give us some more pop. You know what I mean? Like, lean a little more pop. So now I don't know who she worked with on this project. I'm sure they had the best of the best in the room with her, though. So we just gotta wait to see what the. I don't. I'm not paying attention to the sales if she gets nominated, if I don't. Cause she has all of that in her belt already. You know what I'm saying?

[Rory]

I just don't want her to.

[Savon]

I want the music, though. I want the music to be great. As long as the music is great. Great job, Cardi.

[Baby D]

All right, so we just pulled up the pre save link on Apple Music, and it appears that track 22 and track 23 are up and WAP. Now that scares me a bit. Bodak Yellow was. Was how old by the time Invasion of Privacy came out? It was a couple of years. But at that time the streaming rules were different and that was helpful. It went towards your total. They have now changed that rule. So had that rule still been here, I would totally get why Wap would be on this album.

[Savon]

Right?

[Baby D]

But the fact that that has shifted scares me because what benefit is up and Wop being on this album really going to do in the scope of things now?

[Savon]

To be fair, they are the last two tracks on the pre order track list. So I don't know if you know as far as the listen of the album, if it matters, but I don't. I don't like that though. I don't like up and Watt being on this album.

[Baby D]

Can you think of a time when there was a regime change at a label and a Lister put out a project immediately following it? I cannot think of a time typically when they do their musical chairs and people become different presidents or whatever. Typically, if that president signed you, you're getting dropped because the new regime, it's like, yo, I didn't sign you. You're not my act.

[Savon]

I'm starting to take that on.

[Baby D]

Bacardi, of course, is a list. So a listers are going to stay there. Like, it's not like they were going to drop Justin Bieber when LA Reid left. Like, of course they're going to stay, but I've never heard of them putting music out right after there's a new president and a new system. This, I don't know. This is all odd. I hope it's great. But Outside, I don't know if that's. That's the one. Maybe it'll grow, maybe with a visual. It's a cool record and I don't know if just a cool record is it right now. And which is it's up to say because it's, you know how hard it is to make a hit record. It's like one of the hardest things in the world. So to just say put one out Cardi is crazy to say, but. But I don't know if Outside is the one that like is going to lead the momentum that is. That is needed when you don't even know your new label president and you're just announcing.

[Savon]

But that's why I like what you just said by Hit Records and that's why we have to start giving more, let's say, applause to the artists that consistently do that. It's not easy to make a hit record. No, consistently make hit records is not.

[Rory]

The hardest thing, no matter how talented you are.

[Savon]

So we got into a space where it became everything else other than the music. You know, I mean, like, let's have a public relationship. Let's, you know, go viral on doing this and do these dances. And then it's everything dressed up around the record. The hit records.

[Baby D]

Records can't stand by themselves.

[Savon]

The records can't stand by themselves. So now with this situation with Cardi, again, a list has all the accolades already off. The first album achieved things that most people in her genre will never achieve.

[Baby D]

Every song was on Billboard.

[Savon]

Like, she has all of that.

[Baby D]

She had, like, 10 hits on that, which is insane.

[Savon]

So. So now, sophomore album, first album since all of these accolades had a lot of features in between it, good records in between it. But this is the first Cardi B album post the success of Invasion of Privacy. Now we gotta get back to where are the hit records on this album? Looking at up and Wap. Being there. I don't like that. But, hey, it might. It's 23 tracks, so those might not even matter.

[Rory]

But, Ma, that's the oxymoron. Like, that's. That's. You just. What you just said was, let's pay attention to music and not really pay attention to hits. But then you saying, all right, well, where are the hits? Because the two songs that Cardi dropped in between that we thought. When the album we thought was coming last year, those were really, really good songs. Like, objectively, those were really good songs. And they both came with a big visual.

[Savon]

Which songs you talking about?

[Rory]

One of them was the freestyle, and the other one was the one that she kept teasing. I can't remember exact names of Josh.

[Baby D]

Freestyle was dope. That was one that Offset directed. Right? I think he directed the video. Yeah, that was hard. But it was also a freestyle. I don't even think Cardi in the label was like, this is a hit. I think it was. Let's feed our fan base in the meantime. Yeah, I don't know if that was.

[Rory]

But they were.

[Baby D]

I mean, bongos. They were like this. We're gonna treat this like a hit. I think the freestyle joint that Cardi did was just to feed the fans at the time.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Baby D]

Which was hard. But, like, they didn't do much post promo after that.

[Rory]

Okay. So, yeah, one was called Enough Miami. And like Enough. I like Enough. I liked it enough or not a lot. And I think it was a good record. But, like, I Said it's really tough with female rappers right now. And I think that they're trying to. When she's dropping these songs, they're trying to judge their immediate success off her past immediate successes and everything. You gotta push a record. You gotta let a record grow. Just because she's a superstar. Treat this like this is just her sophomore album. Like, treat her like this is her sophomore album. They're like, trying to treat her like she's fucking.

[Savon]

No, but. No, no, no, you can't do that, baby D. Cause you can't just treat it like it's just her sophomore album.

[Rory]

When it comes to pushing it. Yes, you can. When it comes to how you push, push it and how you grow it, why can't you?

[Savon]

Because the success she had on the 1st, she is priority. She's an a lister for sure. So that you can't treat it just like a regular sophomore album.

[Rory]

What I'm saying is, if something is not working to what you think is working, immediately give it time, put more money behind it and watch it grow. Don't just throw things out and be like, oh, this didn't go number one onto the next. What are we doing? You can't do that. Because what we're seeing with the female rappers now is you have to give songs time to grow. You have to push them. You have to put money, more money behind them and give it time. You can't just say, throw this out and then hit number one next. And it hit number one next. You can't do that. It's not going to work. That formula is gone. When it comes to female rap dominance, we're out of that time.

[Savon]

But why do you. I don't even like saying female rap dominance. I think rap, period.

[Rory]

Yeah, well, yeah, yeah. But I'm just talking about the years when the female. When the females were running rap when you had the. The cardi, the Megan, the lotto, like they were taking over everything. That was all you heard. All the number one songs were female songs. Like, so that's over with. That wave has, like, passed. So now it's like, you gotta treat it like regular rap, where you gonna have to put some money behind it and some time behind it and some appearances behind it and let it grow organically. Not just. It didn't hit number one like everything else did the first time, but they gave.

[Savon]

They gave Cardi time to let. They put joints out. She had time for something to take. And that's what I think they were doing. I think they were throwing joints out, trying to see what. What took off. Cause I. I do feel like most of this music that we're gonna hear, Cardi had been recorded this music. So I think they were just trying to see again, because of the success of the first one, the labels had to wait until she put something out where it looked like it even had that type of heat.

[Rory]

And that's what I'm saying. I don't think that that's going to happen in this climate. So they need to come up with another way.

[Savon]

But again, if the music is good, it don't even matter if it's not. If it's the numbers. If the numbers aren't. I mean, it matters to the label. Some. Some we gonna keep it. It matters to the label if the numbers are not where they want them to be. But as far as me just listening to Cardi's album, I just want to hear good music. I don't. Don't even tell me what it did first week. Don't care. I want to hear good music. I'm just looking for good music coming from Cardi B. That's it.

[Baby D]

I mean, the barb is going to tell you the sales.

[Savon]

Oh, no, the barbs will. They'll be right there. Like, they're going to keep clicking refresh to keep us.

[Baby D]

They're melting down in their group chats right now with the announcement.

[Savon]

Yeah, absolutely. But.

[Baby D]

Oh, no, see, now I see why you didn't go to Paris because Cardi was out there.

[Savon]

I didn't go to Paris because Cardi was in.

[Baby D]

That's why you didn't hop on the jet with Jay. He was like, I heard Cardi out there.

[Rory]

So, yo, who all gonna be there?

[Baby D]

He was nervous.

[Savon]

I'm not even paying y' all no money. I'm not paying y' all nobody.

[Baby D]

Well, I mean, I know we talked about hov a lot already, but that clip of him coming out at the Beyonce show was great. Yeah, I enjoyed.

[Savon]

So it was good to see the Carters together on stage. Niggas in Paris. While in Paris. I see what you did there, Jay.

[Baby D]

Do we think Jay is such a genius?

[Rory]

Do we think Jay is about to potentially be in the studio or release something?

[Savon]

No, he don't got his chain ain't big enough. That was just a wifey. That was a wifey. Let me get wifey. Let me get my shit off in Paris. A wifey real quick. He was at fanatics the day before, flew out, probably that night, went to Paris.

[Rory]

That's what I'm saying. Like, that's it ain't just let me just hop off stage with wifey like that. There was a lot of thought and thought.

[Savon]

I don't think Jay wants to be affiliated with none of this rap shit that's going on right now. I don't think he wants his music in the market space next to any of this shit. I truly don't believe that he's recording anything. I don't think he's recording any music at all.

[Baby D]

I think he always records, but it's about just catching. Like, he puts together albums pretty quickly. I feel like he records all the time. And if he catches a wave for two weeks, it's like, all right, maybe I am ready to go now.

[Savon]

I don't. I don't think so. I don't think so, because I.

[Baby D]

You know, he could have also just been like, he had an obligation with fanatics and then just went to go meet his family.

[Savon]

That's it. That's all this was. I went to go see my wife.

[Baby D]

And I had to do this, and then I went back to the store.

[Savon]

Yeah, but as far as him recording music and. No, because. And. And then to be honest, if we being honest, we always are. Jay is. Jay is, to me, the greatest of all time. When you talk about rap, the things that he's accomplished strictly off of rapping, he doesn't sing, he doesn't dance. He doesn't do no. Like, he. This is rap and the. The heights and the accolades that he's achieved as just a pure rapper, unmatched. I think that he's looking at the landscape of music and rap. I don't think he. What. What would a Jay Z album do right now? Like, what would be the point of Jay Z putting out an album right now? Like, we gonna listen to it. The newer generation are going to kill it online. Get this old nigga out of here. Nobody want to hear these old raps. Nobody want to hear you talk about art that we'll never own.

[Rory]

I mean, they did that before. Before, though. Who gives a fuck?

[Savon]

But this is what I'm saying. And then a week later, people not even talking about, I don't care.

[Baby D]

But I think Jay would put an album out if he wanted to. That's what I was getting at. Like, yeah, of course there's no.

[Savon]

It's always, if he wants to, he don't need to.

[Baby D]

Anything out of, like, 444 off the self reflection therapy relationship.

[Savon]

That's what that was about.

[Baby D]

That was. You know, of course it was marketed because of the two Biggest fucking artists ever that happened to be married and talked about their relationship after lemonade. But that put it out, because that was for him too. I just.

[Savon]

For him.

[Baby D]

Yeah, but he would have to find that reason. I don't know what that reason could be because of my Jay Z, but.

[Savon]

Rap in the market back then was in a way better place than it is now.

[Baby D]

Sure.

[Savon]

So what I'm saying is, we know he doesn't need to do anything. He doesn't need to put no music out. He doesn't have. He doesn't owe anybody anything. He doesn't have any dates to hit. Like, when it comes to that, everything has to be whether he's motivated, whether he's inspired, whether he's, you know, he's looking at where things are. And it's like, okay, cool. I like the energy in rap and hip hop right now. I like, you know, just the tone of it. What's going on? Let me add to that. I don't think he's looking at any of this and is motivated and wants to add what he does to any of this. I think, obviously, this is in Paris. His song n in Paris. His wife sold out fucking stadium in Paris. It's a moment. This is like just the family having a day in the backyard. Like, he was just hanging out in the backyard with his wife and his kids. Like, that's what that was. But as far as new music and recording, I don't think Jay is doing any of that. I think he's his. He's too entrenched in other. Outside of music.

[Baby D]

I mean, if he's motivated and inspired, I hope we get one, But I'm not banking on it.

[Savon]

Yeah, No, I don't. I don't think.

[Rory]

I'm not banking, but I'm begging. I'm praying. And I prayed on Halliburton Downfall, and that happened.

[Savon]

So you said there's super bowl rumors of Jay performing at Super Bowl.

[Rory]

Yeah, I saw that.

[Baby D]

Well, we talked about that when he first took over. How many years would it not look weird to pick yourself?

[Savon]

Oh, yeah, he's performing.

[Baby D]

Oh, and they're trying to get this. It's Vegas. He's trying to get the Caesar's Palace. Oh, yeah, yeah, he's performing. And Beyonce's popping up.

[Rory]

Yeah, man, I need tickets.

[Savon]

He's performing San Francisco.

[Rory]

San Francisco this year.

[Baby D]

Yeah.

[Savon]

Oh, yeah. Nah, he's not performing.

[Rory]

Yo, y' all are so fucking funny.

[Savon]

Yeah, San Francisco. Not.

[Baby D]

I think the NFL is gonna put pressure to have a non urban act for this Year. But if it was Vegas, yeah. I'd be like, nah, Jay's heavy into the gambling world now. He'd definitely perform Vegas.

[Savon]

Oh, yeah. If it's Vegas, he's definitely.

[Baby D]

But no, I think we're gonna get Morgan.

[Savon]

Halftime show.

[Rory]

Morgan, Wallen, Morgan and Drake.

[Savon]

No, I think. I think it'll be.

[Baby D]

Well, I mean, Jay got there to make sure there was representation at halftime. Now there's another side of the country that may need some representation, and they see themselves in Morgan.

[Savon]

Listen, man, we could talk about it.

[Rory]

Can we?

[Savon]

About the Super Bowl?

[Rory]

No.

[Savon]

I think we may be at that point where Chris could get it Brown.

[Baby D]

Yeah. He couldn't even get the Michael Jackson tribute.

[Savon]

Why wouldn't. Why wouldn't Chris get it?

[Rory]

We already had this conversation, like, four times.

[Baby D]

Hey, listen, I'm with you. Chris deserves it. But we.

[Savon]

I think everybody's passed.

[Baby D]

If Quavo doesn't have anything to do that day.

[Savon]

I'm sure Quavo has something.

[Baby D]

Oh, I met Quavo before you came.

[Savon]

Yeah.

[Baby D]

Yeah. But I was like, nah, chill. I'm with Chris. You said that. No, I didn't say.

[Rory]

I know you didn't. I didn't say it.

[Baby D]

Chaser. Just like. I was like, he has no idea. The. Out. What's up, man? Yeah, one of those. All right, the. What we really need to get down to is not the Super Bowl. Can you just take B. Simone to Bloomingdale's?

[Rory]

You got Bloomingdale's money. I know you do. I've seen your wallet.

[Baby D]

Was that the store that you went to go see on Sunday to support a friend?

[Savon]

Yeah. When you opened Bloomingdale.

[Baby D]

You gifted Bean Simone in Bloomingdale.

[Savon]

A little small shopping open called Bloomingdale's. Nothing crazy.

[Baby D]

I mean, I don't want to laugh at someone crying about not having money, because I know what the fuck that feels like, and it sucks. But I'm still confused by this entire thing that I. I'm not gonna go listen to the whole episode. I wanna make that very clear. There's no research here. Except for the clip that everyone just saw. What is going on?

[Savon]

Yeah, so I saw the clip of B. Simone and Shakina talking. Now a clip of. I think Shakina went viral the week before when Shakina was saying, you know, people think when you have rich friends, that that means that you got money and that you. You're well off or whatever. Whatever. And people were killing that clip, like, saying, if I had a rich friend and they knew I was struggling and Watch me struggle. Like, that ain't a friend. And you know that whole people think that because your friend got, let's say, 100 million, that means you got 100 million. No, it doesn't go like that. And as a friend, you're not going to keep. You're not going to ask your friend for help if you fucked up. Like, you just don't do that. Now, if your friend got 100 million and they see you struggling, then, yeah, they should absolutely help if that's your friend. That's what friends are for. So I saw that clip go viral.

[Rory]

Okay, well, how do you. How do you feel about that? Because I think that that was. I thought that that was an interesting clip because when I originally watched the clip, I didn't know the background that the friend she was talking about was sitting next. Like, I didn't know that she was talking about B. Simone. I just seen her saying, you know, I was on food stamps and my car was about to get repossessed or whatever, and like, I have no help. And people.

[Savon]

Oh, maybe she know what you talking about, baby.

[Rory]

No, she was, but I didn't know that she was at the time. How do you. How do you feel about that?

[Baby D]

Wait, so B. Simone was the rich friend and she was the struggling friend?

[Rory]

Yes.

[Baby D]

I'm just trying to keep up.

[Rory]

And they were doing an episode together where she was talking about, yeah, people like, you know, I saw you give a check to somebody else, and it's like, damn, like, what about me? And I was sitting there watching this shit, like, oh, this is.

[Savon]

Now, listen, I have friends from all walks of life. Rich, poor, it doesn't matter. Right? But there's a thing when. Because as friends, you don't. You don't necessarily want to ask your friends for help. Right. If you in a tough situation, financially, whatever it may be, you need some help, you don't want to ask your friends for help. Now, should your friends know that you're struggling to know that you're kind of like, in need of help? Yeah, that's what friends for. You have those conversations. But I've been in situations where I needed help from friends that were well off. And I asked a friend one time, small loan. I was like, yo, listen, money tied up right now. I got a lot of bills that I just want to catch up on. Loan me 5,000. I'll pay you back next month. All good. He said, no. So y' all can't do it right now. Cool. From that day, that put a fire up under me that Said I will never ask another friend or anybody for help ever again in my life. And I never have, by the grace of God, never had to. God bless the child that has his own. So maybe I needed to hear that. No, maybe I needed that moment. Like, damn. Maybe help ain't coming. Gotta do what you got. We all got 24 hours in a day. It's how you use it, how you grind, how you hustle. Cool. So I can understand the mentality of not wanting to ask a friend for help. Especially as men. You know how we are. Prideful ego. You don't want another man to know that you struggling, you fucked up. Which is dumb when you think about it. Especially if you're my friend. You should know I'm struggling because then if I go out here and knock some niggas over and put them on their ass and try to get some money, yo, why you ain't called me? I did, nigga. And you said you ain't have it, like. So I had to go put this 4, 5 in the nigga face and get it, like. You know what I'm saying? I had to do what I had to do.

[Baby D]

The reason I was out of town the last month.

[Savon]

Exactly. You know what I'm saying? But, you know, so I can understand how people don't want to ask friends for help because you. You just don't want to, you know, be put in that position to have to ask anybody for anything but.

[Baby D]

Or make the friendship awkward.

[Savon]

Yeah, because it's not.

[Baby D]

So many times it doesn't happen when you ask a friend for money and they say no. And then now the friendship is weird.

[Savon]

Now, for me, personally, yes, our friendship changed. I gotta be honest, our friendship changed after that. But not in a way where I despise the person and we not cool. It changed in a way of never asking for nothing after that. Never asked him for nothing before that, which was crazy. And that's why that bothered me, I think, because I never asked nobody for nothing. But in that moment, I was like, this is a small thing to a giant. This ain't. And that. No. I remember hanging up that phone. I said, I will never ask nobody for nothing again.

[Rory]

That should have hurt your soul.

[Savon]

And I never. And I to this day never ask. Which is why when Rory be like, yo, even ticket the shit, I don't ask for nothing. Like, I don't act when people call me yo hit so and so. I'm like, I don't like asking nobody for nothing. I just. Is just something in me. And not as a result of that. Before that, I didn't like asking people for. I just. That's just how I am. I don't ask nobody because I. I'm always on the side of. You got. If I'm calling you asking for something, you got 30 ahead of me. Because I'm the last to ask anybody for anything. So that's just my mindset. But as friends, you do need help sometimes. So I understood that clip with Shakinah and B talking. People killed him about that clip. Cool. So now B and Shakina again. Another clip goes viral where B is saying, you know, she's so broke now that she has to shop at H and M instead of Bloomingdale's. Well.

[Rory]

And she's saying she's not broke from lack of money. What she's saying is she has lack of liquid. She has her.

[Savon]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Money tied up in assets and investments.

[Savon]

Cool. Which is, you know, we understand that. So now your lifestyle has to change. You can't spend as much as you were at one point because you're not getting as much money in as you were at one point. Your money is tied up. So now you have to kind of budget and, you know, but you should always be doing anyway. But you have to budget and spend your money wisely and be, you know, more financially responsible. So I understand that. My only thing would be saying that is rich people shop at H M. People that are financially great.

[Baby D]

She didn't land. Her point is pretty much like, people.

[Savon]

That are financially great and well off.

[Baby D]

Bad version of struggling.

[Savon]

Yeah. So it's like, yo, you can be great financially and shop at H and M. But I understood what she was saying, meaning I had to change my lifestyle. I had to change the way I was spending money. I had to budget. I had to, you know, the money that I was spending so freely before, I cannot do that anymore. Which is what she was trying to say. But like Rory said, she didn't land it, didn't word it properly. But I understood what she was saying. Like, yo, I can't spend blindly the way I used to at one point. Like, I have to be more, you know, mindful of the way I'm spending money. So I understood what she was saying, but doesn't matter. On the Internet, you said what you said they're gonna kill you for exactly what you said, not what you meant. They're gonna kill you for what you said. So I understand would be meant by that. And shout out to her, shakina, on going viral once again, how much Money.

[Baby D]

Do you think she asked me, Simone.

[Savon]

For how much money? Do I think she asked? Yeah, she didn't ask.

[Rory]

I was gonna say I don't know if she asked her.

[Baby D]

Oh, okay. Yeah.

[Savon]

She knows she didn't.

[Rory]

She was initially saying I'm of the mind of. I couldn't. I would. Me, personally, I don't know their relationship. If my best friend was staring me in my face, sitting up there, talking to me about, I watched you give a check to somebody else. But I ain't have no food in my fridge. I ain't have this. I ain't have that. I would feel like a piece of shit.

[Savon]

Oh, now, wait, hold on. If I'm starving and can't even feed.

[Rory]

Myself, she said she had to get on food stamps.

[Savon]

Yeah, yeah. Then at that point, if you have a friend that's well off, like, now, again. Again. Because I've seen this too, Baby D. People be struggling, fucked up, and you don't have no idea. Some people's front game is immaculate. I got personal friends that I'm like, yo, bro, I. Why you ain't just say something? We could have went to Whole Foods and filled this whole shit up. Like, you know what I'm saying? But again, people had this pride and this ego.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Savon]

They front game be showing. They don't want people to see them struggling. It's a real thing. And I understand it, because I've done it. Now, I ain't never opened my fridge and just seen bacon soda in that. Like, nigga gonna eat. But I've done that.

[Rory]

It's. It's just like, listen. And you don't want nobody to know.

[Savon]

You don't want nobody to know.

[Rory]

Nobody know.

[Savon]

I mean, it's. It's whack, though, because the bacon soda is funny.

[Rory]

I'm so sorry. That's just so acc.

[Savon]

Yeah, but it's real. Some people open their fridge, baking soda, celery. You're not even doing nothing with celery.

[Rory]

You better dip that in some peanut butter. Y' all ain't see that came with.

[Baby D]

The side of wings that you stretched out for two days.

[Savon]

Why you got celery in the drawer? You trying to keep the celery fresh, too.

[Baby D]

Throw that out on the right climate.

[Savon]

Throw that. You're not eating celery.

[Rory]

I know this pineapple or some. I mean, not some pineapple, some peanut butter or some ranch to that. It'll get you through a night.

[Savon]

And that's all we trying to do is get through the night.

[Rory]

Get through the fucking night.

[Savon]

Yo, get through the night. That's the motto a lot of niggas live by. Get. See, I don't want to be around them type niggas no more. Niggas that's just trying to make it to tomorrow. They focus and energy is different than that.

[Baby D]

That's gonna be your B. Simone clip.

[Savon]

No, no. I'm just not saying I don't love it, but I can't be. It's just because they willing to do anything for sure. You get what I'm saying? It's like. And you don't want to be around when they get that moment of fuck it. Like, this is the moment. Like, y' all gotta do it now. You don't wanna be around when the person that is on they last feels like, yo, it's now or never.

[Baby D]

Yeah.

[Savon]

Cause you might be the now I.

[Baby D]

Was gonna say, once you turn them down for money, they also know your patterns. Cause they're your friend.

[Savon]

You start looking like a plate. You looking like a plate. You looking good. Skin looking good. Nigga, you gaining weight. I just saw your ig. You was just in Turks. Niggas throwing shrimp at you. All kind of shit going on. I'm in here. Celery. Nah, I'm going to get this nigga.

[Rory]

You real shit, though.

[Savon]

That's how. What you mean? Yes, I'm talking real.

[Rory]

Even if they don't go as far as robbing you. I've seen friends see your. Your friends see your blessings up close. So I've seen shit turn weird. Motherfuckers turn weird, motherfuckers energy turn weird.

[Savon]

Niggas send niggas in a nigga house to rob they. Man, I haven't seen it all like. So that's why when anybody get the time, I done seen it. This is like, you gotta understand patterns. Every. Some people be out here really twisted, and you out here looking like you just doing good. Listen, it's not the time to be around people that's messed up. If you not trying to help, if you're not trying to, you know, uplift and help them get out of their situation, sooner or later, listen, they gonna. It's survival. You don't wanna be around people that's in survival mode all the time. And unfortunately, that's the environment. That's the neighborhood that a lot of us grow up in. We all grow up trying to survive. Like Baby D said it make it through the night, that's it. But shout out to be Simone and Shakina again. They went viral. So, hey, listen, that's a check right there.

[Rory]

I'm gonna say give her some. Her friends some of that ass.

[Savon]

Listen, man, watch, watch. Go watch the pod. You know what I'm saying? Get BE Simone back in bloomies. You know what I'm saying? It. Run it up. Why not? Those are my people. Shout out to be Simone Shakina.

[Baby D]

Yeah, and I'm happy that BE Simone's struggle is going from Bloomingdale's to H M. Glad she's eating and.

[Savon]

Yeah, B, cut it out. Yeah, B, cut the.

[Baby D]

I hear you. I've had cutbacks of a lifestyle certain times, certain months. I can't do that now, but I just keep it to myself.

[Rory]

Yeah, well, I mean, that's the podcast. She's sharing, you know, her life, but you just have to be aware of how it comes across.

[Savon]

But people. Even if she said that people gonna find something to kill you about. That's just the nature of the beast. Like, you say something, you know, you could be as. As honest and vulnerable and, you know, as sincere, and people gonna get the clip and you know how it goes. Rory.

[Baby D]

Absolutely.

[Savon]

On you. You think you better than anybody. Like, shut up. And it's just like, I'm just giving you my real account of what happens in my life. That's what I'm doing.

[Baby D]

Don't ask for my honesty then.

[Savon]

Yeah, like, you know, I mean, like. All right, so next time I won't be vulnerable. Yeah, listen, the day that goes. Vulnerability out the window. Rory. No worry.

[Baby D]

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[Peach]

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[Savon]

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[Rory]

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[Savon]

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[Rory]

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[Savon]

The bee is back.

[Rory]

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[Baby D]

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[Savon]

H and M get a good. Get good suits in H M, man.

[Baby D]

Yeah, I get most of Amar's clothes from Old Navy. Have y' all been at Old Navy lately?

[Savon]

I've been taking some shit.

[Baby D]

I be walking past the men's section on my way to the baby shit. I'm like, nah, I got some drip in here. Old Navy's kind of fire now.

[Savon]

Yo, listen, I always talk about how hard it is just to find some good plain jeans. Not the jeans that look like you about to go on stage. Good plain jeans. The Gap still has some of the best good plain jeans. Just jeans. Like, I just want some nice jeans that sit right on my sneaker. Wear them with a T shirt. Don't look like I got four platinum records. I don't want those type. I don't want platinum record jeans.

[Baby D]

Yeah. I don't need rips on my thighs. I'm 35.

[Savon]

I don't want those jeans. I want regular jeans. The Gap is still one of the best in the business when it comes to regular jeans.

[Rory]

Levi.

[Savon]

Regular.

[Rory]

You can always get classic denim from Levi.

[Savon]

Oh, yeah. Levi.

[Baby D]

Levi. I feel like they were doing the price gouging before anybody. Levi. When I was a kid, I felt like was affordable, and then when I got older, they tripled their price. Yeah, they were inflation before inflation. Levi used to be cool, that shit. You might as well go to fucking the Diesel store at that point.

[Savon]

Diesel still got good denim. There's a lot of stores that have. Again, we just. There's a market of people that just want regular jeans. We don't want to look like we coming out with smoke and pyro. I don't want pyro jeans. Regular denim, please. Thank you very much.

[Baby D]

Don't distress my denim.

[Savon]

I just want. No, you can. You can get a little distressed, but don't go distressed. Crazy. Yeah, I'm stressed, so my jeans should match.

[Baby D]

My thighs will distress it.

[Savon]

But, like, some of these jeans, it's like I'm not wearing. And then the wide flare bottom, I'm not wearing those.

[Baby D]

Listen, man, I don't think I've worn denims post Covid. I just gave up on denim after once. I didn't put jeans on for a year. Cause of COVID I was like, I'm never gonna be.

[Savon]

Yeah, but you're not gonna. But. But again, too. Because not the fact that jeans just aren't. They don't make em as comfortable as they once were. But you just not. The denim market space is just not attractive to you anymore. You'd rather wear comfortable pants. Trousers.

[Rory]

He love breaker. That nigga love a breaker.

[Savon]

Yeah. Like, joints like these. Like, incredible. Throw these on and just like, yo, I'm not like, all right, man. Denims. It's like you walk outside with some of these jeans. You supposed to have a whole backline behind you. Drums and guitars. Like, I'm just going to the store. Like, I'm not performing anywhere. I just want regular jeans, fella.

[Baby D]

The way that dad weight fluctuates weekly. Like, I don't even know if I'd be comfortable buying denim because I would probably have to jump in it the following week and then the week after that. It'd be too loose.

[Rory]

And Beyonce.

[Baby D]

Oh, listen, I. I was a medium large in a T shirt for most of my life. I'll be asking for xls now because I don't know what my body gonna look like on Tuesday. Yeah, like, just give me some flowy. Yeah, like, just.

[Savon]

I hope I won't be able to move chicken nuggets all night. And fries. Like. Yeah.

[Baby D]

Got no sleep. Yeah. I ate Amara's leftover chicken nuggets that she didn't eat, and I slept two hours.

[Savon]

Yeah.

[Baby D]

So, you know, before we do get to voicemails, prayers to T. Rex. He had a seizure on stage at his battle last night.

[Savon]

Yes. Prayers to Rex, man.

[Baby D]

Yeah, that was. I get why people post that stuff, but I also kind of wish they wouldn't. Like, I've watched that.

[Savon]

Oh, they had the video.

[Baby D]

Yeah.

[Savon]

Oh, yes.

[Rory]

I hate, like, that.

[Savon]

I can't watch that.

[Baby D]

And you ever, like, look at a video and don't really read the caption, so I'm just thinking it's a battle. I was. It was tough to watch, to say the least.

[Savon]

Well, hopefully Rex is recovering well. He's doing better. That's my guy. That's fine right there. So shout out to Rex.

[Baby D]

Have you heard any updates? PJ and I were talking.

[Savon]

No, I think earlier. I tweeted last night, though. I think he tweeted something last night, so, you know, that's. I don't know if that's a good sign. Somebody tweeting or not, but hopefully he is recovering and he is feeling better. And you know, listen, man, we gotta health, gotta, gotta, you know, the older we get. This is priority number one. Make sure your health is right physically, mentally, spiritually. It's important. So shout out to Rex.

[Baby D]

Yeah.

[Savon]

Prayers to him and speedy recovery. Full recovery directs.

[Baby D]

Yeah, this is more local, but if you are in New York City, mayor primaries are today. If you're listening to this on Tuesday.

[Savon]

Go. Anybody vote.

[Baby D]

It's fucking. The world is insane.

[Savon]

Anybody but Cuomo and Adams. Again, please. Let's go. Last vote.

[Rory]

Bianca Cunningham for city Council. If you are in the Brownsville area, thank you so much.

[Savon]

Brownsville, Brooklyn. Bianca Cunningham. What's she gonna do? She gonna clean up them parks. Parks need cleaning.

[Rory]

Bianca.

[Savon]

Bianca. Parks need cleaning. Get them out of there. Wanna do push ups and dips on that. Every light. Get them out the way.

[Baby D]

She's gonna be the mother of mother Gay yesterday.

[Rory]

This is not the police.

[Savon]

I'm sorry. Shout out to Bianca Cunningham.

[Rory]

Oh, my Lord.

[Baby D]

I know, people, but like, I got to see some policies before we start shouting out.

[Rory]

First of all, I gave the ran be crazy. I gave y' all the rundown of the policies already, so I had already done that. But if you need some, doing them again. She's a former Verizon Wireless worker who led her co workers in seven stores across Brooklyn to form a union together and join the cwa, making them the first unionized retail workers in the company. She's really big on union workers, really big on education. Education, like fixing the education system in New York. She has a whole bunch of policies. It's very easy to look up. Biancaforbrooklyn.com so Bianca for Brooklyn.com all right, so fuck it.

[Savon]

We voting for Bianca Cunningham then. It's all good. We behind her.

[Baby D]

But yeah, anytime they try to fix the schools in New York City, they just give them another charter school.

[Savon]

Yeah, yeah, that's it.

[Baby D]

It's the only fix.

[Savon]

And then build it right in between the dope house and the fucking. The methadone clinic.

[Baby D]

Look, they're not in public school anymore. Like, now.

[Savon]

They are, though. They are. And I know this block real well right now.

[Baby D]

It's not private. Harlem Love loves that much. Arter School.

[Savon]

You telling me. But every time I go, I'm like, what is this now? It's a charter school. This is Lexington Avenue. This is the hood, man. Get this out of here. Charter school.

[Baby D]

Well, yeah, everyone vote. And I mean, I know there's also primaries with other states, so get out there and, I don't know, make. Hopefully make your vote count. I don't want to be sinister. I'm encouraging people to vote, but. But I hope it works out.

[Savon]

Yeah, man. Listen, go vote. And go pray right after you vote, man.

[Baby D]

Prayers to the world.

[Savon]

Prayers to the world. Oh, yeah, we need that.

[Baby D]

Okay, I didn't know how to be specific on that. Like, just. I don't know. All. All of us, just.

[Savon]

Yeah, just the world, man.

[Baby D]

Just everybody.

[Savon]

Prayers to the world. Prayers to the world.

[Baby D]

We are the world is what I always say.

[Savon]

We are the children. We are the ones to make.

[Rory]

We're laughing, y' all.

[Savon]

We know that ever since that song.

[Baby D]

We'Ve been everything up.

[Rory]

Oh, man, you gotta laugh to keep from crying. You really gotta laugh to keep from crying.

[Savon]

Why are you crying, Baby D?

[Rory]

Because of the state of the world.

[Baby D]

Listen, don't cry, though. No, I almost cried before you showed up. I found out that Iran was sending missiles to US bases via Shade Room, and I was like this. What am I like? I just. I don't even know what to do anymore. I. I have no words for it. I know I'm a podcaster. I'm supposed to have words. I just, like, don't even know what to say anymore. Why? Like, at first I was like, oh, I mean, of course the retaliation was gonna happen. Like, not stupid. They were gonna hit back. But then I was like, why. Why did I find this out on Instagram, on Shade Room?

[Savon]

Because, yeah, Justin Leboy shouldn't be updating me on the Iran Israeli Conference. Yeah, like, I just shouldn't be getting there from Justin is all I'm saying. That's all. But, yeah, I don't know.

[Baby D]

Is cnn, Fox any better?

[Savon]

Right?

[Rory]

Exactly.

[Baby D]

Like, Hollywood Unlocked might be the best way.

[Savon]

Isn't Jason Lee. Isn't he a councilman or something like that?

[Baby D]

He was running in his hometown.

[Savon]

I think he won.

[Baby D]

I don't keep up with, like, Northern California politics like that, but I think Jason. No, I was like, no, we. I remember when he was campaigning, we. We talked about. I think it was great what he was doing.

[Savon]

I watched, actually. I think he. He, like, he got voted in.

[Baby D]

He was taking that serious. But, I mean, shout out to Jason Lee either way. I know he really cares about the community, but, you know, I don't know.

[Savon]

We. We'll.

[Baby D]

We'll see what happens. Is Curtis Slee. Well, in the. The bill this time, you gonna.

[Savon]

You gonna fight for Curtis? You gonna vote for.

[Baby D]

I'm coming in here with the hat.

[Savon]

On get you. Get you a good red beret. A red. What is it? A What is it?

[Baby D]

A red beret?

[Savon]

A red tam. It's a beret. I think so.

[Baby D]

It was a beret.

[Savon]

Yes, it's a beret.

[Rory]

Did we ever. Did we find that out, Josh?

[Baby D]

If it was a beret?

[Rory]

No, if he won.

[Savon]

Jason Lee. Jason Lee. I think. I think. I think. I mean, I think we congratulated him on his win. If I'm. If I'm not, I could be wrong, but I think he did. I think he won.

[Rory]

Okay, well, congrats to Jason Lee.

[Baby D]

I'm sure he probably didn't. Oh, no. All right, here we go. Yahoo News, not shade room. November 6, 2024. Jason Lee elected to Stockton City Council.

[Savon]

Yeah, see, I knew. I remember congratulating Jason Lee on that. Yeah, shout out to Jason Lee, man.

[Baby D]

Do you. Do you keep up with any of, like, the mob mafia, YouTube world? Like, do you know who John A. Light is?

[Savon]

John A. Light. The name sounds familiar.

[Baby D]

Yeah. So he was. He worked with, like, John Gotti Jr. He ended up flipping and testifying against him. And now he's like a, you know, big YouTuber or whatever. I mean, he's admitted to killing, like, 35 people. He. He's now the councilman in a town in New Jersey. Oh, John Alight, former Gambino crime family enforcer turned mob turncoat, was sworn in Wednesday as a councilman representing the sleepy town in the New Jersey borough of Englishtown.

[Rory]

He turned his life around. Ain't that what rehabilitation for? That's what jail is supposed to be.

[Savon]

Yeah, baby. I don't think you can go from.

[Baby D]

Like, can we look up the population of Englishtown, New Jersey? I'm sure there was somebody that he.

[Savon]

Killed that he clipped.

[Baby D]

That's someone that could have taken that role as city councilman. I'm not saying there should be, you know, redemption and this or that, but.

[Savon]

Like, Doug, imagine two 20, 2500 people live in English Town.

[Baby D]

Listen, if our president's a felon, so whatever.

[Savon]

Yeah, it doesn't matter.

[Baby D]

Obama committed so many war crimes, John A. Just on par for. For a politician.

[Savon]

Listen, if John A. Can get voted in this city, Councilman. I'm just saying Chris might be on that super bowl stage. Yo, that's all I'm just saying, man. I think people get over, move past things and people forgive is all I'm saying. That's all I'm saying. That's all I'm saying.

[Baby D]

Then, oh, no, I think Puff gonna be in the Next election cycle.

[Savon]

Oh, my gosh. That would be crazy.

[Baby D]

What?

[Savon]

Yeah, yeah. At this point, would it be? But anyway, when y' all told me Cor was running for May, I'm like, he stepped down because of sexual assault allegations. Like, did. He's back to run for mayor. Listen, man, all I'm saying is Chris Brown might be in San Francisco and Santa Clara come February, is all I'm saying.

[Baby D]

And Rihanna might be a special guest.

[Savon]

Yeah, and Rihanna might be a special guest.

[Rory]

Listen, man, it is the simulation. I don't know. I feel like God running out of to do for real.

[Savon]

Like, for my next trick, I just.

[Baby D]

Saw Charleston White fight one of the island boys. This is not real.

[Savon]

Yeah, no, I've been told, y' all. It's a simulation. None of this is real.

[Baby D]

Do we have any voicemails for our simulation?

[Savon]

You've got mail.

[Baby D]

One voicemail. Sponsored by Boost. Thank you, Josh.

[Savon]

What's up, Rory?

[Rory]

Mom.

[Savon]

Baby D, Peach. Whole fam. Quick question. Outside of relationships, if y' all was making a playlist for kids, as far as showing them actual, real hip hop, obviously edited, what songs would y' all pick? What artists? I got a homegirl. She wants me to add some songs to a playlist for her sons. I got a couple. I got Jay Z, Hard Knock, Live, Nas. I can Tribe. Can I Kick It. But what else would y' all add to a playlist? For real? Hip Hop for kids, edited. Love the feedback. Appreciate y' all. Peace.

[Baby D]

Yo, if another man sent Amara a playlist, I. I'm going full Johnny. Like, everybody done.

[Savon]

Well, me trying to teach them about.

[Rory]

Hip hop, I think that's actually pretty cool. Like, imagine if Mall compiled, like, a list of, like, must hear hip hop songs.

[Baby D]

Yeah, but Mall isn't dating her mother.

[Rory]

Oh, that's what you're saying?

[Baby D]

Kill a guy, send my daughter. Now I know hip hop. I got it. Don't send my daughter a playlist.

[Savon]

I think that you got to put Will Smith on there. Summertime. You got to put that.

[Rory]

I would do children's story.

[Baby D]

Yeah, I feel like kids would like that.

[Rory]

Yeah, I loved it when I was a kid. That was when he said that, that was the first song I thought about.

[Baby D]

It's a really dark story, but yeah. Yeah, I guess that's what Slick Work was going for. I mean, Juicy, to me, is, like, the number one. Like, if aliens came and we're like, what's hip hop? Juicy would be the song I would play, but I don't. I mean, most of it is, like, I'D love to throw shook ones on there, but I just don't know if they should hear about, you know, the nose bone going. Maybe that could be an anatomy lesson of stabbing your brain with your nose bone.

[Savon]

Ones is not for the kids. Not for the playlist, but definitely Will Smith. Maybe even as. Because I'm thinking about also language. Rakim didn't curse a lot.

[Baby D]

No.

[Savon]

Because that wasn't even really like a thing back then with rap. Like, it wasn't heavy cursing.

[Baby D]

Yeah.

[Savon]

So, like, throw some rock him on there. Some Kane. Big Daddy Kane.

[Baby D]

But do you think like you and.

[Rory]

I T Y by Missy Elliot.

[Baby D]

By Missy.

[Rory]

Missy Elliott. Oh, my God. Queen Latifah. I don't know why I was thinking about.

[Baby D]

Did she remake Queen.

[Rory]

Queen Latifah?

[Savon]

Yeah. I thought you was putting me on.

[Baby D]

Like, I didn't even know she.

[Savon]

Missy recreate.

[Baby D]

Sampled that too.

[Rory]

I must have have just read her name or something. Something. But Queen Latifah.

[Savon]

Yeah, you. You and I Ty. Queen Latifah.

[Baby D]

Do we think, like, even with the young ear seal Smooth. Yeah.

[Savon]

Reminisce.

[Baby D]

They would love this.

[Savon]

One of the greatest. One of the greatest hip hop beats ever.

[Baby D]

What's funny is that old school hip hop is more for kids than.

[Savon]

Than anything because the content and the language wasn't as vulgar as it is now.

[Baby D]

Yeah, okay, but what from the next generation would you play? Because that would be tough.

[Savon]

Well, he said. You said Jay Z hard, not life. Right? He said that.

[Baby D]

Yeah. But even, like, the contents of that outside of the hook is, like, for adults.

[Rory]

I feel like Nelly might have something that you can throw on there.

[Savon]

Nelly for sure.

[Baby D]

What's the Tim McGraw song? Over and over again. Yeah. Over and over again.

[Savon]

She's all in my head. I'm going over and over.

[Baby D]

Bona fide hit.

[Savon]

Oh, no. That was my head.

[Baby D]

Classic record.

[Savon]

That was my T. My girl came out. It was all in my head. Go ahead.

[Baby D]

After Nelly did ride with me, that little country on. On Country Grammar, we're like, there's no way he can do it again.

[Savon]

Ride with me. That's good for the kids.

[Rory]

I want to ride with me. Okay.

[Savon]

That wasn't too vulgar. That wasn't crazy.

[Baby D]

I believe the hook is about the.

[Rory]

Edited version of Move get out the way. I think that's. That's. The version is Move Trick. And I actually don't think that that song is that bad without the chorus, if I'm not mistaken.

[Baby D]

I want to do like a doc about where are they now with all the Kids. Pop kids. Like, where did they end up?

[Rory]

Podcasts.

[Savon]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Dancing with the Stars. But, like, as the dancers.

[Savon]

As the dancers.

[Baby D]

Bleep it. See, who was the kid that did, like, the horrible renditions of, like, Biggie when they would just steal. Where's that kid at now? Because I know he has trauma for sure.

[Savon]

Maddie B. Maddie B.

[Baby D]

Yes. Oh, man, those were cringeworthy. He was probably crushing it at middle school, though.

[Savon]

How many views is that?

[Baby D]

Billions. I'm. You could feel the struggle, like, just within the imagery.

[Rory]

No, this can't be the original.

[Savon]

What I can do. You thought that's what he said, baby.

[Rory]

All right.

[Savon]

N. He had his blue. His blue and black lumberjack on.

[Baby D]

You think he'll flag us? You think Maddie B. Will demonetize us?

[Savon]

That's. Wow, man.

[Baby D]

Those were yo kids bop days. Those were interesting.

[Savon]

You need a good kids bop playlist, though.

[Baby D]

Like, where are the. Where are the cars for Cars for Kids? What Was that? That song?

[Savon]

1, 8, 7 7.

[Baby D]

Where's that band at now?

[Savon]

K I D S. Cars for Kids Fun.

[Baby D]

You sound like me spelling.

[Savon]

Oh, was it kr K A R S. Yeah. Cars for Kids.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Savon]

Release your cars today.

[Baby D]

Wait, Maddie Braps. Put out a book.

[Savon]

Maddie Braps.

[Baby D]

That's MB right there. Maddie Brat. He turned blood.

[Rory]

That's crazy.

[Baby D]

Is that a book? What is. Is that a single?

[Rory]

I think that's a single release, yeah.

[Baby D]

Oh, my God. Well, yeah, I forgot where we're at. Yeah. Nas, I can. You know.

[Savon]

Yeah, you got to put that on there.

[Baby D]

I. I think he's going in the right direction with everything, but I don't know, make. Maybe mix it up and put, like, Emon it. It just, like, really throw a curveball in there, really traumatize the children.

[Savon]

All right, well, we're gonna catch bounce. Let's bounce on out of here.

[Baby D]

Feeling real litter box right now.

[Savon]

Yeah, man. Listen, man, New York City smells like a litter box right now. It's so hot and nasty outside. Yeah, but it. We gonna push through, man. Push through these next couple days of this heat wave. Stay. Stay cool as best you can. Stay in the house. The AC on it. Just. Everybody just sit down. Just relax for a second.

[Baby D]

It. Yeah.

[Savon]

Let these couple days go by.

[Rory]

Y' all be stink.

[Savon]

Yeah, man. Ass is stinking. Listen, we had a three shower minimum. Now these next few days, if you moving around, three showers a day, man. Don't go up in nobody face thinking it's too hot for that. We'll talk to you on a couple days. Be safe. Be blessed, be cool. I'm that he's just Ginger. Peace, no Worry.

[Baby D]

Mall in 2025. Hand to hand is gone when it comes to money. But thank God we have an app like Cash App. I can finally, in this digital age, just send money whenever I feel like it.

[Savon]

You need it. You need to be able to send money anywhere in the world, anytime.

[Baby D]

And I love when I go out to dinner and the bill comes and they're like, yo, get this now. I'll get you back later. No, no, no. We could do it right now.

[Savon]

Yeah. Don't tell me you got me Later.

[Baby D]

Yeah. Cash at me now. Oh, you don't have Cash App. It takes two seconds to download. Put your bank right there. Send me the money. Right, let's make this awkward for dessert. So Cash App makes everything easier. And Damaris taught me this amazing trick. With Cash App, if a random number texts you, all you do is request a dollar. And if they have Cash App, you can find out exactly who was texting you.

[Savon]

Oh yeah.

[Baby D]

Which was the greatest woman trick I have ever heard in my entire life.

[Savon]

Absolutely.

[Baby D]

I don't even know if Cash App knows how ill they are for that. If for whatever insane reason you don't already have Cash App, just download it from your phone's app store. Sign up. Enter our code rorymal10 in your profile. Send $5 to a friend, mainly me, and you'll get $10 just for getting started.

[Savon]

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[Baby D]

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[Savon]

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[Baby D]

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[Savon]

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[Baby D]

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[Savon]

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[Baby D]

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[Savon]

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[Baby D]

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[Savon]

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[Rory]

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