Episode 386 | 5 Inches In

Summary

Podcast Summary: New Rory & MAL – Episode 386 | 5 Inches In

Release Date: July 4, 2025

Hosts: Rory & Mal Guest: Tech N9ne

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1. Introduction to Current Events and Advertisements (00:00 – 04:49)

The episode opens with a series of brief advertisements promoting products like Degree’s Cool Rush deodorant, Lowe’s July 4th savings, Mint Mobile’s wireless plans, and upcoming events like the WNBA All-Star game. These segments set the stage before the hosts delve into their main discussions.

2. Deep Dive into Love Island and Health Concerns (04:08 – 15:30)

Mal initiates a conversation about the reality TV show Love Island, expressing surprise and concern over the health implications, particularly the prevalence of cold sores among participants.

Tech N9ne (05:31): "Each episode is like two hours. This isn't like a 30-minute show. I could not believe I only got through one episode in one day."

Rory and Mal discuss the show's format, emphasizing the intensity and rapid spread of HSV-1 (cold sores) among contestants. They critique the producers for not enforcing proper health measures, contrasting it with the stricter protocols observed in the sex work industry.

Mal (07:09): "They don't take a chance on any of that shit in that world. Why is the porn world taking care of people better than these people?"

The trio expresses frustration over the lack of responsibility by the show's producers, highlighting the potential health risks to participants and viewers alike.

3. Reflections on American Identity and Citizenship (15:30 – 26:45)

The conversation shifts to broader themes of American identity and the citizenship process. Tech N9ne shares his skepticism about the ease of obtaining U.S. citizenship, humorously suggesting candidates might consider cheating on the test.

Tech N9ne (18:50): "All right, so the first one up here is what ocean is on the east coast of the United States? Easy."

The hosts engage in a lighthearted mock citizenship test, illustrating their lack of preparedness and familiarity with U.S. civics.

Rory (25:42): "It's B for sure."

This segment underscores the complexities of citizenship and the sometimes overwhelming nature of governmental procedures.

4. Personal Stories and Parenting Dynamics (26:45 – 39:45)

Tech N9ne and the hosts delve into personal anecdotes about parenting roles and responsibilities. Mal recounts rumors about Nelly and Ashanti regarding diaper changing and financial disputes, questioning the authenticity of such claims.

Mal (28:15): "That's why one is already enough. We're putting that in the contract before he beats again."

The discussion highlights evolving gender roles in parenting, emphasizing the importance of shared responsibilities despite traditional expectations.

5. The Intersection of Music, Independence, and Legacy (39:45 – 55:25)

Transitioning into a more musical dialogue, Tech N9ne shares insights about his career, collaborations, and the challenges of maintaining independence in the music industry. The hosts celebrate his achievements and discuss the importance of longevity and adaptability in hip-hop.

Mal (52:04): "I owe, like Pooky to Jid."

They reflect on the evolution of hip-hop, the blending of genres, and the importance of authentic representation in music.

6. Upcoming Projects and Collaborations (55:25 – 85:54)

Tech N9ne discusses his upcoming album "5816," detailing its autobiographical nature and the stories behind each track. He emphasizes the album's focus on his early life, struggles, and personal growth.

Tech N9ne (97:16): "5816 is where my mom married Abul Hassan Rasool Khalifa. She my devout Christian mom married a Muslim when I was 12 years old."

The hosts and Tech N9ne reminisce about past tours, influential figures in their careers, and the significance of collaborative efforts in shaping their musical paths.

7. Closing Remarks and Final Advertisements (85:54 – End)

As the episode concludes, the hosts revisit earlier advertisements and promote upcoming tours and products. They express enthusiasm for future collaborations and maintain a lighthearted rapport with Tech N9ne.

Tech N9ne (124:57): "You owe My guy a feature. You can't be part of the Kansas City community and not give tech."

The episode wraps up with final promotional segments, reinforcing the initial advertisements and setting the stage for the next episode.

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps:

• Tech N9ne (05:31): "Each episode is like two hours. This isn't like a 30-minute show. I could not believe I only got through one episode in one day."

• Mal (07:09): "They don't take a chance on any of that shit in that world. Why is the porn world taking care of people better than these people?"

• Tech N9ne (18:50): "All right, so the first one up here is what ocean is on the east coast of the United States? Easy."

• Mal (28:15): "That's why one is already enough. We're putting that in the contract before he beats again."

• Tech N9ne (97:16): "5816 is where my mom married Abul Hassan Rasool Khalifa. She my devout Christian mom married a Muslim when I was 12 years old."

• Tech N9ne (124:57): "You owe My guy a feature. You can't be part of the Kansas City community and not give tech."

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Conclusion

Episode 386 of New Rory & MAL offers a blend of humor, personal anecdotes, and insightful discussions on pop culture, health, and the music industry. With Tech N9ne as a prominent guest, the episode delves deep into themes of independence, parenting, and the evolving landscape of hip-hop. Listeners can expect a mix of lighthearted banter and meaningful conversations that reflect the hosts' diverse interests and experiences.

Transcript

[Host 1]

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[Host 2]

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[Host 3]

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[Host 2]

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[Host 4]

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[Tech N9ne]

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[Host 2]

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[Tech N9ne]

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[Host 2]

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[Tech N9ne]

Visit your nearby Lowe's on Colorado street in Kennewick.

[Host 2]

The volume no worry.

[Tech N9ne]

And I'm proud to be an American where at least I know me specifically is free. There's no doubt I love this land.

[Host 3]

That's how you feel?

[Tech N9ne]

God bless the usa. Yeah, I don't feel. I don't feel the same way about the country.

[Host 3]

God bless the usa. Absolutely.

[Tech N9ne]

And no place else.

[Host 3]

No. Well, God bless.

[Host 2]

No, no, no.

[Tech N9ne]

Just us.

[Host 3]

God bless all of the Good hearted people around the world. The good spirit.

[Tech N9ne]

The good spirits, our government, centuries, not the evil spirits.

[Host 3]

The good people of America in the world.

[Host 1]

What makes a good.

[Tech N9ne]

We looked at the UK and was like, damn, y' all did that. All this on this little ass island. We about to wreak havoc on the world. That little ass spot just did all that.

[Host 3]

It's the 4th of July. We are recording well before the 4th. By the time they hear this, it will be the 4th of July.

[Tech N9ne]

And shout out to you if you are listening to a podcast on fourth of July. You're dedicated and you don't go unnoticed. Thank you.

[Host 3]

For you.

[Tech N9ne]

I was trying to tell all the advertisers, nobody would listen to me. I was like, God, let's just take this one off. I don't think anyone is going to listen. But hey, if you're listening, we appreciate you.

[Host 3]

Hopefully you're going to have a great.

[Tech N9ne]

Time with the family to celebrate our independence. And that's, that's, that's kind of been my thing. If you're in America, you know, everyone around the country just jealous of our freedom. It's just disgusting. I hate the entire rest of the population. Like, why is everyone so jealous of our freedom?

[Host 3]

Nobody's jealous. I could promise you that.

[Tech N9ne]

Yeah, no, that's why 9. 11 happened. They was jealous of our freedom.

[Host 3]

That's exactly what they want. 11 happened. Yeah, jealousy.

[Tech N9ne]

It was a bunch of Muslims in caves and we're like, yeah, freedom.

[Host 3]

Exactly. All right, well, what are y' all plans for the 4th?

[Tech N9ne]

Let's forget about the other 100 countries that have freedom. Those guys. Well, anyways, I did the most American thing this week. I gave in and watched Loved Island. I am a love island.

[Host 3]

Oh, Love Island.

[Tech N9ne]

Yeah.

[Host 3]

How was it?

[Tech N9ne]

I started it. I'm not. I have not completely caught up. I may or may not have DMed one of them and said, hey, you don't deserve this.

[Host 1]

Which one was it? Which one of the three?

[Tech N9ne]

Which one you think?

[Host 1]

Which one of the triple chocolate ones? I actually don't watch the show, but I've seen the. The three black girls going viral, so I'm pretty sure it's the one that looks like a supermodel or Landria.

[Tech N9ne]

You are mistaken.

[Host 1]

It's the other one.

[Tech N9ne]

Which one lives in Queens?

[Host 1]

Oh, I don't know. I don't watch the show. Which one?

[Tech N9ne]

Shelly, can we pull up? Shelly?

[Host 3]

Love Island. I have no idea what you're talking about.

[Tech N9ne]

It's a gold man.

[Host 1]

The chocolate triplets.

[Tech N9ne]

Here's the thing Pretty. I have seen Love island clips. Obviously you. You can't. You can't miss them. But I was not fully aware of the show. I. Episode one. I was like, I wish someone would have like warned me before this entire thing. Describe they just be making out with everybody. That's part of the show. I thought it was just a bunch of people. Like any other Nick Lachey reality show. A bunch of people go to a really looking for like, let go versus. Yeah. I'm here because finally I'm trying to settle down at 21.

[Host 3]

Yeah.

[Tech N9ne]

I've been through so much trauma with my relationships. Like, you're 18. What are we talking about? I thought it was one of those shows. I didn't know it was a full blown fest. Oh, this is insane. Like, as a society, we. We need to reevaluate everything.

[Host 3]

Oh, I thought about binging this over the fourth of July.

[Tech N9ne]

Oh, I get why everyone loves it. I'm locked in. While I'm judging it, I'm completely locked in. I might check it out to the point that once, you know, Love island was playing in my house, my phone was listening. So I got even more algorithm and I saw that all these people had cold sores.

[Host 1]

What the.

[Tech N9ne]

Rory, I am not. I'm not breaking news here. This is viral, so I'm not caught up, but my entire Instagram feed with Love island was all these people with cold source.

[Host 3]

So the people that are on Love island are now on social media with cold source?

[Tech N9ne]

No, they're on the show with cold source. So each episode is like two hours. This isn't like a 30 minute show. I could not believe I only got through one episode in one day. Like, they're two hour episodes. I found patient zero in the first 10 minutes after seeing all the cold sore shit. It was the white guy.

[Host 3]

He.

[Tech N9ne]

He had one up here and one here. I could see it in 4K. I know. You could see it in real life and they just all making out with each other and now they all have HSV1. The entire show is based off making out with each other with blindfolds. And like, if that's the person you pick, they just swap and spit for two hours a night. They all have cold sores.

[Host 1]

I'm disgusted.

[Tech N9ne]

I mean, we need to reevaluate. And first of all, I was talking to somebody who was in the sex work world and I was like, yo, with y', all though, like, you have to. To do that job, you have to come with like a STD report. Like, she was like, we get tested every single week. You have to come with the proper paperwork. Every last fucking thing. They do not take a chance on any of that shit in that world. And I was like, shouldn't Peacock do the same? Why is the porn world taking care of people better than these people? On Peacock, there's no way. I saw homie sores and producers didn't. Now everybody got cold source.

[Host 3]

Oh, I gotta. I gotta watch this. I didn't know what.

[Host 1]

Look at what.

[Host 3]

Nah, because I didn't know. I didn't know it was that type of, like, going on.

[Tech N9ne]

Like, yo, and all right, they pick their couples or whatever, and then they blindfold them. And then you get the option. Well, before the blindfold, you get the option to stand on the whole thing with your mate, and someone can come over and make out with your girl or your guy in front of you. And they get to choose if they want to go with that person or the other person. We're doomed is all. Is all I'm saying.

[Host 3]

And that's what everybody's going crazy over this show. This is all I hear. Like, all I see on my timeline. All I'm seeing on. On Instagram is people talking about Love Island.

[Tech N9ne]

He's not patient zero. It's the. The tall.

[Host 3]

The.

[Tech N9ne]

The MGK looking guy out the gate I spotted. I was like, my. I know I have a big tv, but how the. She ain't see this? He. She. He had two of them, too, and they sitting there face to face, talking about how he made out with the other chick. And I was like, yo, does anyone not notice cold sores?

[Host 3]

Is it. So let me ask you something, because I haven't seen it. Does any of the black people have cold sores?

[Tech N9ne]

Oh, yeah.

[Host 1]

They're all kissing each other. So I.

[Host 3]

Because white boys, that's. Y' all shit cold sores. Cause y' all kiss anybody. Y' all make out as soon as y' all meet a girl.

[Tech N9ne]

Well, that. First of all, they took our swag and monetized it. That's what the show is about. It's like, legitimately just making out with strangers and then saying, we're. We're a couple now.

[Host 1]

It's just Rory in 2014. It's Sunday night.

[Tech N9ne]

Seven years before 2014.

[Host 1]

Okay.

[Tech N9ne]

Always seven years.

[Host 3]

Always seven years.

[Tech N9ne]

Which would put me where in high school?

[Host 3]

Yes.

[Host 1]

Same. Same thing.

[Tech N9ne]

I was at the bar in high school just making out with randoms. But, yeah, this is like, all right.

[Host 3]

I might binge watch this.

[Tech N9ne]

No, it's. It's. I actually Cannot wait to get home.

[Host 3]

I might binge it.

[Host 1]

Who's your favorite character? So far, you hate them all.

[Tech N9ne]

I. I D.M. shelly and said, you don't need to do this.

[Host 1]

Okay, all right. Is there someone you want her with? Because I see her going back and forth between two guys.

[Tech N9ne]

Here's the thing. I don't like the way Ace played her out the gate, all right? This. This is my thing, right? So Ace and I don't short shame because I'm, you know, five, nine on. On the best day.

[Host 1]

Can you pull up Ace for me, please, Josh?

[Tech N9ne]

Ace. Ace is about. Ace is about 5 foot 3, and he just be playing in her. Her bosom because he's not that tall. He can't play in her face because he's not tall enough. I don't like the way Ace be playing with my girl like that. So there's this other tall black guy that was with this girl, right? So when the girls go around and make out with everyone, the other dude held it down and said, just kiss me on the cheek. Because you gotta kiss, like, no matter what the producers say, you got to do that. So instead of making out when he's standing next to his new partner, he said, just. Just give me one right there. This whole Ace just starts tonguing the chick down right in front of my girl.

[Host 3]

My girl. She don't know you, man.

[Host 1]

That's Ace.

[Tech N9ne]

And then, okay, Ace left the queen for like, some basic. Some basic you could find on Tremont.

[Host 3]

No, don't do that. It'd be some bad Fremont.

[Tech N9ne]

I didn't say there's not. I said some basic you can find on Tremont. Tremont has the hoes. I'm just saying, some basic.

[Host 3]

Some basic.

[Tech N9ne]

Some basic hoochie this. Making out everybody. Ace sprung off her, kissing other dudes, takes that. And then after that, they all link after. And Shelly talking to him like, yo, I'll give you another chance if you pick me. I'm like, damn, I was unsent my DM of like, Nah, never mind. I can't. I can't respect you until you respect yourself.

[Host 3]

I gotta watch this then.

[Host 1]

Yeah, we're gonna come back and revisit this when we have mall's breakdown too. Oh, my God, no. And I love.

[Tech N9ne]

I love a short king, but facts, but no, no. Ace. Ace. Yo, by the way, this show has some of the worst tattoos I've ever seen in my fucking life. Can you type in Love island tattoos? You know?

[Host 1]

You really think that there's an article on that that he could just find.

[Tech N9ne]

There's no way that this is not a thing of some of the worst fucking tattoos. This. This patient zero.

[Host 1]

Oh, he.

[Tech N9ne]

That's COVID 19 in Wuhan right there.

[Host 1]

Okay, those are pretty bad tattoos. Zoom in for me, Josh, please.

[Tech N9ne]

Now, one of the black dudes has an ape tattoo that is type in Love Island. Ape tattoo him right there. That guy with a cowboy hat, Taylor. Zoom in, Taylor. Definitely gay too.

[Host 3]

Ape shall not kill ape.

[Tech N9ne]

That's it actually looks okay from this angle. When you see that shit head on, that's the worst tattoo I've ever seen in my life. So you.

[Host 1]

You some girl got you locked in? You locked in? No. Oh, you watched it on your own. You just said, let me throw out Love Island.

[Tech N9ne]

I did watch it by myself.

[Host 1]

Oh, okay.

[Tech N9ne]

I may have been on the phone with somebody that was also watching. Like, yo, you see this?

[Host 1]

Okay, cool. I was just.

[Tech N9ne]

I knew I wasn't nobody that's watching.

[Host 3]

It with somebody, though.

[Host 1]

Exactly.

[Host 2]

Okay.

[Tech N9ne]

All right. Yeah. All right, cool. I was on the phone.

[Host 1]

They're like, nah, I just threw it on Rory.

[Host 3]

And Rory know he counted down from 10 and started at the same time.

[Host 1]

For sure.

[Host 3]

He did that. Of course you did that.

[Tech N9ne]

You gotta do that one.

[Host 3]

You gotta count for 10.

[Tech N9ne]

All right, are we going on three or after three?

[Host 3]

Yeah, after three. Yeah, come on.

[Tech N9ne]

You do that too, though. No.

[Host 1]

Yeah. I'm 15 seconds in. I'm 15 seconds in. Wait, pause, hold on. I got to go to the bathroom.

[Host 3]

Your lagging, you should start lagging.

[Host 1]

I know the game. I know that long distance.

[Tech N9ne]

First of all, I was. I was. I was 10 toes, by the way, cuz I. My. My peacock account is not mine. My peacock account is Edens, which he knows. He gave it to me.

[Host 1]

Okay.

[Tech N9ne]

She was like, what's your peacock login? I was like, nah, nah. The game is to be told not to be sold. I can't give you. Eden's logging. You got. You gotta go find somebody else for that.

[Host 1]

Yo, that's.

[Tech N9ne]

That was when we was on the road. What were you all trying to watch? Is separately in our hotel. And Eden just gave us. It was the. What's the. The woman that killed her baby. Casey Anthony. Yeah, we were on the road and we were trying to watch the Casey Anthony thing, and Eddie gave me his. His login. And I said. And I said, you know, I got this for life now, though. Like, I'm not logging out.

[Host 1]

Yeah, logging out is crazy.

[Tech N9ne]

This is going on all my TVs in my house too. When I get home, I didn't give it up. Like, she tried everything.

[Host 3]

That's good.

[Tech N9ne]

But I. Yeah, I couldn't. Come on. I can't do that to that guy.

[Host 3]

You had some pride. Kept some pride.

[Host 1]

I had to get my own Hulu account. Cause Logged me out. Their whole.

[Tech N9ne]

That was rough.

[Host 1]

That was.

[Host 3]

Logged out.

[Host 1]

Yeah. That's all right, though.

[Host 3]

What about plans for the 4th of July?

[Tech N9ne]

Sorry, I'm more invested than you guys. I can't wait for you guys to watch.

[Host 3]

I'm gonna watch it. Definitely gonna watch it.

[Tech N9ne]

I think. I think I'm in LA right now, I think.

[Host 3]

Oh, yeah, you're supposed to be going out of town. Yeah, okay.

[Tech N9ne]

I think I'm in Los Angeles. I think I'm flying on 4th of July.

[Host 3]

Baby D's first year living in Brooklyn on the 4th, and it's going to.

[Host 1]

Be actually the first year in about five years that I'm not in Brooklyn on the fourth. I'll be in Atlanta.

[Host 3]

Oh, yeah. How you doing? Once you live there, you're not there no more because you got it. Hardly home, but always rapping.

[Tech N9ne]

You got to go to a red state on footage.

[Host 3]

There's nothing more American. Yeah, there's nothing more American than going to a red state.

[Tech N9ne]

You in these blue states on the Fourth of July. So be a patriot.

[Host 3]

Yeah.

[Tech N9ne]

For once in your life.

[Host 1]

I'm gonna go to Atlanta.

[Tech N9ne]

I hit yomi the least patriotic states. New Jersey, New York and Californ. Yeah, that checks out.

[Host 1]

I'll hit yomi. Yomi's not gonna be in Atlanta, unfortunately, so I can't see her. But I am gonna see Nadia. Me and Nadia, a friend of ours, we're gonna go to brunch and then fourth. Not on the fourth of the weekend of the fourth. I'll be there for about four days. And yeah, I actually. I was looking up the swimley thing that you talked about and. Or swim, whatever it is. And I'm going to rent a pool. I think I'm going to do that for the actual fourth.

[Tech N9ne]

Oh, that. Those inflation prices on the fourth with that app.

[Host 1]

Yeah, it's like an extra 200.

[Tech N9ne]

But remember, like, when all the Uber drivers conspired to be in the same spot to, like, boost up the inflation, you know, they're doing that with the pools.

[Host 1]

Oh, yeah, for sure. But I'm definitely. I'm probably gonna do that, lay by the pool for the fourth, cook a little bit, make some fried catfish, do some real Southern shit.

[Tech N9ne]

I feel like horseback riding, too. I'm gonna do that shit is so cheap in Atlanta, you could probably buy a crib with a pool for the price you'd pay to rent it for the day. So, yeah, just.

[Host 3]

Just buy the house you rented for enough hours. Hell, yeah. That's definitely the mortgage.

[Tech N9ne]

Do you have any plans? Fireworks?

[Host 3]

I wanted to go. I wanted to go see the family up in Montreal, but I don't know if that's gonna happen, so I'm gonna try to figure it out, though.

[Tech N9ne]

You're gonna go to Canada?

[Host 1]

Yeah.

[Tech N9ne]

On our nation's holiday?

[Host 1]

What a traitor.

[Host 3]

Why not?

[Tech N9ne]

I hope you're going up there to convince them that they're going to be the 51st date.

[Host 3]

Well, no, the. The Jazz Fest is ending this week, so I was going to try to catch, like, the last day.

[Host 1]

Oh, okay. That makes sense.

[Host 3]

And just stay up there after the fourth.

[Tech N9ne]

So I'm such an ignorant American that it blew my mind when I found out Canadians didn't celebrate Thanksgiving. And then I thought about it. I was like, I'm. I'm very much a redacted word.

[Host 1]

Yeah, it's okay.

[Tech N9ne]

I was like, wait, y' all don't.

[Host 3]

Well, they have. But it's something like Thanksgiving. They do a Boxing Day or something like that.

[Tech N9ne]

It's. Some people celebrate something like, it.

[Host 3]

Something. Yeah, something.

[Tech N9ne]

But that's just to try to, like, capitalize on the American holiday, to make money on. I asked. I asked Yanni in the studio one year, like, yo, what you doing for Thanksgiving? He's like, dog, I'm from Montreal. The you at. No, I'm not flying back to see my family.

[Host 3]

Canada Day is July 1st.

[Host 1]

Okay, but when is Boxing Day?

[Host 3]

Boxing Day?

[Host 1]

We don't know about these other countries.

[Host 3]

Yo, the day after Christmas.

[Host 1]

Yeah, we don't know.

[Host 3]

It's one of those holidays we don't.

[Tech N9ne]

Know about our country. I guarantee you, nobody could pass a citizens. Y' all think y' all know about America.

[Host 1]

Oh, no, I. I don't. Yeah, I'm gonna fail. I think I would fail. Mom, you think you could do one? Like, if you needed to become a.

[Host 3]

Citizen, would I pass?

[Host 1]

Yeah.

[Host 3]

Yeah.

[Tech N9ne]

He's lying. Like, listen, pull it up, Josh. Pull up a citizenship test. We can do that. All right. The way people be talking about immigrants doing it the right way. Cool. Which on that. But if I looked at that test, I would just try to, like, hop the fence. There's no way I'm getting a citizen's card off that test. All right? No, Josh actually pulled it up. We are going to try this for real. Like, I was gonna ask stupid questions that I didn't know, but Josh found the actual test to become a citizen of the United States. So I think the best way. Because I would steal y' all answer. If we went in like, a circle. Should we just write it down in our phone?

[Host 1]

I'm down. I'm down to do that.

[Tech N9ne]

Okay, so the first one up here is what ocean is on the east coast of the United States? Easy.

[Host 3]

Everybody knows that.

[Host 1]

That's because we're over here, though.

[Tech N9ne]

Oh, no, I think I could. If it's multiple choice, you just have to put B on the Scantron all the way through. That was the statistic.

[Host 1]

Yeah, I, like, I have to read the multiple choices to me, but I mean, obviously there's only four oceans, so never mind. But you guys ready?

[Tech N9ne]

I am ready.

[Host 1]

One, two, three.

[Tech N9ne]

Atlantic Ocean.

[Host 1]

Atlantic.

[Tech N9ne]

Atlantic.

[Host 1]

Boom. That's easy. Okay, so far.

[Tech N9ne]

Stars and Stripes, though.

[Host 1]

So far, we're making.

[Tech N9ne]

I didn't even know about this.

[Host 3]

I'm a citizen, though.

[Tech N9ne]

Like, this is.

[Host 3]

I'm a citizen. Give me my. The passport.

[Tech N9ne]

House of Representatives has how many voting members?

[Host 3]

The House of Representatives.

[Tech N9ne]

I can tell you guys that the Pacific Ocean is next to California. All right, so it's A, 45, B, 100. C, 2D, 400.

[Host 3]

House of Representatives. The House. The House.

[Tech N9ne]

Okay, but it can't be an even number, though, right? Because they. They can't tie. Right. Damn, we stupid. So stupid.

[Host 1]

All right, y' all ready? I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go 45.

[Tech N9ne]

I'm going 8. 45.

[Host 3]

I'm going 435.

[Tech N9ne]

That was good.

[Host 1]

I think Ma's right.

[Tech N9ne]

What's funny is my second guess is 435. I knew how dumb I am.

[Host 3]

Yo, please give me my passport. My bad citizen, man.

[Tech N9ne]

This is how dumb I am. It was either going to be A or D, which is insane. It was either going to be 45 or 435. All right, well, so far, Mo is a true blue patriot.

[Host 1]

Okay.

[Tech N9ne]

All right, next one. We elect president for how many years? Come on.

[Host 1]

Obviously, four.

[Tech N9ne]

Four.

[Host 3]

Soon to be age, soon to be A.

[Tech N9ne]

This is a. This is a trick question. It's a trick.

[Host 3]

It was full all the way. Then it made a turn.

[Tech N9ne]

I don't know. They say I can't do it. It was four, but I don't know. Some are saying I can do it.

[Host 3]

Made a turn.

[Tech N9ne]

All right, four. Let's a being. Life is hilarious. We elect a president for how many years?

[Host 1]

So.

[Tech N9ne]

So far, me name one. U.S. territory. A, Florida. B, Alaska. C, Hawaii. D, Puerto Rico. Come on, don't play with me. All right. These actually are a little bit easier than I thought they would be.

[Host 3]

I'm a citizen dog.

[Tech N9ne]

I mean, this one. Do we need to go now? D. Puerto Rico. Who was the first president? Come on, give me. I'm a fucking American. George Washington.

[Host 1]

George Washington. Okay. I thought this was going to be harder.

[Tech N9ne]

Who was the president during the Great Depression and World War II? The great Donald Trump.

[Host 3]

No.

[Tech N9ne]

Oh.

[Host 3]

Franklin Roosevelt.

[Host 1]

Oh, I would have. Yeah, I'd have up.

[Tech N9ne]

Really?

[Host 1]

Yeah.

[Tech N9ne]

I suck out of Thomas Jefferson. Woodrow Wilson. Nah. Yo, I better never see you drive on the FDR again. That's crazy.

[Host 1]

I suck with things like this, like, with time. Names like I. I'm not good. Name one. Right. Only for United States citizen freedom.

[Tech N9ne]

A, join a political party. B, call senators and representatives. C, run for federal office. D, Freedom of religion.

[Host 1]

Freedom of religion.

[Tech N9ne]

What?

[Host 3]

The freedom of religion. I'm glad in this country.

[Host 2]

Oh, Only.

[Host 1]

Only I got that wrong.

[Tech N9ne]

I don't even understand the question.

[Host 1]

So it's one that's. It's only for us. Like, we're the only ones that have this, right?

[Tech N9ne]

As opposed to who?

[Host 3]

Any other.

[Host 2]

Like.

[Host 1]

Like immigrants. Immigrants don't have this.

[Tech N9ne]

Okay, well, Obama was born in Kenya and is a Muslim, so run for federal office.

[Host 1]

I think it would be. No, it's run for. It will run be. Run for federal office. I read that wrong.

[Host 2]

It won't be answered.

[Tech N9ne]

Do we know that? It's C. Run for.

[Host 1]

Scroll down. They should tell you. It's. It's rough.

[Host 3]

Definitely.

[Tech N9ne]

See? I mean, Elon. Isn't he our president?

[Host 1]

1900S. The Cold War.

[Tech N9ne]

Name one war fought by the United states in the 1900s. War of 1812. If you click that, you're just as stupid as my spelling. Be Mexican. American war, Civil war, Vietnam war. I'm going.

[Host 1]

It might be the Vietnam.

[Host 2]

Right?

[Tech N9ne]

It's. I'm going. D. Vietnam.

[Host 1]

It's the Vietnam War.

[Host 3]

No, it definitely.

[Host 1]

It's the Vietnam War.

[Tech N9ne]

I ain't see Forrest Gump. What are two ways that Americans can participate in their democracy?

[Host 3]

Drive a car and go to a museum.

[Host 1]

I need y' all to read the answers out, babe.

[Tech N9ne]

Purchase a building and go on a trip. Drive in a car and go to a museum. Join a political party and write to a newspaper. Eat at a restaurant and apply for a job.

[Host 1]

C. Wouldn't join a political party.

[Tech N9ne]

All right, well, hold on. Before you click it. Wouldn't it be all of the above?

[Host 3]

I Know I know what. Yeah, I know what type of test Rory used to take. He used to argue his F facts.

[Tech N9ne]

But in space Camp I knew the scantron. They told me if you don't know the answer, just put B. Because statistically on scantrons it was usually be. I'm not gonna go with drive a car to museum, but I feel like because I'm a true blue patriot, I think all of these things are participating in our democracy because no other country you're allowed to just go to a museum. That's only us. But yeah, I'll go with join a political party.

[Host 2]

Come on.

[Host 1]

Damn. A genius. We asked him right here with us.

[Tech N9ne]

When was the Declaration of Independence adopted? Damn.

[Host 3]

They adopted that?

[Host 1]

Yeah.

[Tech N9ne]

Oh, July 4th, 1787. July 4th, 1776. June 6th, 1944. September 11th, 2001 is the darkest. Whoever put that as an option. I appreciate your humor, but that was some dark ass. I know the answer to this but 87.

[Host 1]

I'm going to go A. Want to go A.

[Tech N9ne]

It's B for sure.

[Host 1]

Which one? Which one more? A or B?

[Tech N9ne]

But D, if you really think about it.

[Host 3]

Yeah, it went into effect. Yeah, it went into effect D. But.

[Tech N9ne]

That'S when the Patriot act was. We could do whatever the we want.

[Host 3]

I'm going to go B. Yep.

[Tech N9ne]

1776.

[Host 1]

Damn.

[Tech N9ne]

Give me your passport.

[Host 1]

I'm not no citizen. This is crazy.

[Host 3]

You be in Mexico too much anyway. Give me a passport.

[Tech N9ne]

O.

[Host 1]

Don't do that.

[Tech N9ne]

Yeah, wait, that's all it is.

[Host 3]

Yeah, that's it. That's all it takes to be in.

[Tech N9ne]

A. Cuz I feel like I've seen on tv like isn't it like three branches of government? You got to like. But that's know a bunch of.

[Host 1]

But that's one of the questions that they could ask. This is a practice test, so that could come up. Do you know what the three branches of government is? You keep asking us?

[Tech N9ne]

No, that's what I'm saying. I would fail. I did executive, legislative.

[Host 3]

What's the issue?

[Host 1]

I was wait. I was trying to get time.

[Tech N9ne]

Yeah, I was about to get like.

[Host 3]

You beat.

[Tech N9ne]

You beat me to the punch. I'm trying to think of. Didn't they make us take like sort of a version of this in middle school? And we had to learn about everything probably. I remember the chart of the legislator, the judicial and well, that's just forgot about that.

[Host 1]

Are taught in.

[Host 3]

It's crazy looking at that right there though. A lot of those questions I haven't been asked probably since I Was in middle school.

[Host 1]

Yeah.

[Host 3]

And I still remember that. That's what's crazy about those questions. Like, you would think that that long ago, you wouldn't even be, like, still holding on, retaining that type of information, but, like, seeing it right there, reading it. I'm like, I used to do this for homework when I was, like, in the sixth grade, in the 80s. Great. Like the 90s.

[Host 1]

Oh, I mean, I'm sorry I went that far off.

[Host 3]

Born in 1981. It's going in the 1900s.

[Tech N9ne]

Speaking of true Americans, true men in America, Nelly tried to tell his girl, I don't change diapers. I'm a man. I'm a true American. That's. That's a woman's job. Get back in the kitchen and change them diapers. Nelly's leading the way for American men.

[Host 3]

Don't change the diapers in the kitchen.

[Tech N9ne]

I don't. I wouldn't even know because I don't even go in the kitchen. I don't even know what goes on in there. Is that what y' all do?

[Host 1]

Is that what y' all do?

[Tech N9ne]

I would never even step foot in the kitchen.

[Host 1]

Mal, did you see this, man?

[Host 3]

I saw the clip.

[Host 1]

How do you feel? Well, for people who haven't seen the clip, it's basically Nelly and Ashanti on her new show. Nelly is saying that he's not changing diapers. Like, once the baby is old enough to walk, talk, and go to the bathroom, then he's going to hang with him and the guys. But until then, it's basically an Ashanti. Ashanti was complaining that he sleeps through the baby waking up at night, and she's getting him up. And the Internet is currently in an uproar. They're saying, this is why you don't spin the block, because look how act, mister.

[Host 3]

The Internet is doing exactly what Nelly and Ashanti wanted them to do. If people think that Nelly does not take care of his baby, doesn't change diapers, it's like, what are we talking about? Like, he's. He's. That's just him talking shit. I don't think any of that is real. It's a show.

[Tech N9ne]

I'm jealous that he got that off.

[Host 3]

Yeah. I mean, you know, but I get it. You think Nelly doesn't take. Change diapers.

[Host 1]

I believe that a lot of reality TV is scripted. I don't think that that's scripted. He's not the only person to have said that. He's not the only man to have ever said or felt that way.

[Tech N9ne]

My.

[Host 3]

No, I Understand that. But I'm saying, do you think, Nelly, as many kids as he has, you don't think he's ever changed the diaper?

[Host 1]

I'm not saying I don't think he's ever changed the diaper. What I do. I. I believe in what him and Shanti are saying is that he lets her get up in the middle of the night and that he ain't really changing. Like, he's not the primary parent. I fully believe that Ashanti is the primary parent right now.

[Host 3]

Okay.

[Host 1]

I'm just. Just going off.

[Tech N9ne]

Well, I mean, with newborns in general, the woman is that. But you can still change a diaper in. Put her back to sleep. But I found out last Christmas, my mom and dad. My mom said my dad never changed one diaper.

[Host 3]

Well.

[Tech N9ne]

And I looked at him, I was like, how you got that off?

[Host 3]

Yeah, your dad was a different type of man. That was a real American right there. That was a real American man.

[Tech N9ne]

And I think it's. It's great that our generation has, like, a real relationship with our kids, and men should be also doing that, care providers and all that. But I'm jealous, man. I looked at my dad. You did that?

[Host 3]

Yeah.

[Tech N9ne]

What'd you say?

[Host 3]

He didn't give you that gym? He ain't give me that gym. Right.

[Tech N9ne]

How do I. How do I. Amra has shit in my face before. Like, I remember there was a time when you could just not change your child's diaper.

[Host 3]

Didn't even see the diapers. Yeah.

[Tech N9ne]

Yo, that generation, they had it. They ruined the economy. But, boy, did they have households figured out. They figured out we can't buy a house anymore.

[Host 3]

The home was figured out.

[Tech N9ne]

Listen, man, them boomers, they figured it out.

[Host 3]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Tech N9ne]

But no, that's just some sick to get off on tv.

[Host 3]

But, baby, do you seem a little bothered by that?

[Host 1]

Why would I. Hold on, baby. I ain't bothered.

[Host 3]

No, not you. But like, per. But you. Like, when you hear men say, like, yeah, I do.

[Host 1]

I do. Because I. Because what's happening is it's trying to be folded into, like. Like the housewife role. Like, that's. That they're folding that into the housewife role. It's like. No, like, housewife is, like, cooking and cleaning, like, taking care of the kids. Like, that's. We splitting that baby. Like, that's.

[Tech N9ne]

We're both. You are the main provider financially. But I. How much those gyro and Ashanti tickets cost? She ain't a housewife.

[Host 1]

Like, yeah, yeah.

[Tech N9ne]

Even if she was, she's she's bringing home bread.

[Host 3]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

Even if. Even if she wasn't bringing home bread. Okay, yes, the house is clean. Like, all of that that comes with being a housewife. But these is your kids. Like, I know housewives. What I will speak. To be fair, we've had this conversation where if one person is working in the household and the other isn't, we should probably let the person who's working get the sleep. That, yeah, makes sense. But you can help. You can. You can change your diaper. You can change your child's diaper.

[Tech N9ne]

And even like, shit, when Kia would say the same thing. Like, you got to work in the morning. Like, you can't sleep. Like, when Amara was crying or anything like that. Of like, hey, it's your turn, your turn type thing. Even when kid was like, go rest. Like, you not really catching Z's when your baby is crying. Like, just go.

[Host 3]

Like, your mind.

[Tech N9ne]

Like, nobody just be knocked out. Like, at that time.

[Host 3]

So you just didn't get up out the bed.

[Tech N9ne]

That's where I'm thinking it's more informative of that entire scene. But I don't know. I. I was having this conversation with Kaz right when Amara was born, because, I mean, Cass has two daughters now, but at that time, he only had one. I was terrified of changing a diaper. Not because of like, but like, I just, you know, only child. I didn't change, like, my siblings diapers or anything. That's the easiest on earth. I was laughing with Kaz on day two. I was like, this is the hype. Changes the diaper is the easiest. Fucking. Even when Amar is kicking me in the fucking face. It's really not that hard.

[Host 2]

No.

[Host 3]

Yeah, it's not. That's why I think that Sean. I mean, Nelly was just. Just talking.

[Host 1]

Putting that on Sean Paul.

[Host 3]

No, I was saying that, Shanti. That's what he said. Ashanti. Yeah, I think Nelly was just talking shit. I think that he just said that for the cameras, like, you know, to sound like, I ain't doing that. I ain't. I'm not changing no diapers. Like, I think. I don't know Nelly personally, but I'm guessing that was just for. For the camera.

[Host 1]

Then I seen some rumor on Twitter. This is like, really messy shit. I seen some rumor on Twitter where they're like, yeah, that's the reason why they broke up because he owed Ashanti a million dollars and never gave it to her. And she went back to him. And I was like, whoa, hold on now. Changing Diapers is one thing. Borrowing a million dollars from me and not giving it back is absolutely fucking crazy.

[Host 3]

They're saying Nelly borrowed a million dollars.

[Host 1]

From Ashanti back in the day. That's the rumor of why they broke up. I won't confirm or deny that. It was on media takeout.

[Host 3]

Don't bring no media takeout in here, please.

[Host 1]

Hold on. It was a lot of media takeout in World Star Hip Hop. That was real.

[Tech N9ne]

We were talking about world Star Hip Hop on the other episode we forgot to bring up at one point. Media takeout was the TMZ of everything.

[Host 1]

Thank you.

[Host 3]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Tech N9ne]

They broke the Chris and Rihanna. They're like, at one point, that was a source you trusted.

[Host 1]

So back in the day, remember the.

[Tech N9ne]

Main page, the big one?

[Host 1]

Yeah.

[Tech N9ne]

He was like, I gotta be.

[Host 3]

Yeah. Try not to end up on media takeup.

[Tech N9ne]

Okay, but, like, over time.

[Host 1]

Yeah, over time.

[Tech N9ne]

Or did Nelly straight up? Because first of all, they said it.

[Host 1]

Was over 500,000 if Nelly. All right, so we rounded to a million.

[Tech N9ne]

Which. Which? Camera. Camera two, Nelly. I apologize. I was not familiar with your game.

[Host 2]

Stop.

[Tech N9ne]

Not only did you ask for a million dollars from your girl at the time, you then didn't pay it back. Then you broke up with her, took a break, went and did your thing, had some kids, got her right back, didn't pay. He didn't even pay the vig. And then told her, go change that diaper. Nelly might be the illest of all.

[Host 3]

Time if that's true, if all of that adds up. Yeah.

[Tech N9ne]

Imagine telling somebody that you owe a million dollars to. To go change that diaper.

[Host 3]

I mean, you the goat. Ashanti might, you know, she love him. Listen, that's. That's her husband. It's a man.

[Tech N9ne]

I've never loved somebody that much.

[Host 1]

If I let you spend the block, if I let you spin the block and get me pregnant, you changing every diaper. That's. We putting that in the like, spin the block, like, agreement. In order to come back and revisit this. That was once dead to you. Like a graveyard. You have to change the diapers.

[Tech N9ne]

We're putting that in the contract before he beats again.

[Host 1]

Yeah, before you beat. Just in case I get pregnant. But at that point, if you spin trap them. If you spinning the block at that age, you know, we about to have a baby at that age. You spinning the block.

[Host 3]

Yeah. It's like, what we doing?

[Host 1]

What we doing? Come on, man. Come on, man.

[Host 3]

We like. This is what it is at this point. It's us.

[Host 1]

It's Us.

[Host 3]

Like, we. We too old for this. Like, we ain't got another one of these left in us. Like, in a minute, if we. If we keep playing this game, we gonna find ourselves by ourselves. Like, we too old to be out here trying to.

[Tech N9ne]

Just real talk. You don't think it's funny to have a pregnancy pack and you already got kids?

[Host 2]

Absolutely.

[Tech N9ne]

That's insane.

[Host 3]

Absolutely. Absolutely.

[Tech N9ne]

We've talked about the pregnancy pack. Like, I've had that back in the day with girls of, like, yo, we ever get to, like, 35 or whatever, and we both single like it, let's just do it. Yeah, but having a bunch of kids and then spinning the block for a pregnancy pack?

[Host 1]

Yeah.

[Tech N9ne]

You got a pack already? Yeah.

[Host 1]

I ain't had the one I wanted, though.

[Host 3]

They.

[Host 1]

They won the one I wanted. Like, when you have a. Like when have a baby and you congratulate them, they'd be like, thank you. It was supposed to be ours.

[Host 3]

Yeah. Get that off.

[Host 1]

Get that off. I know Rory got that off at least once.

[Host 3]

He definitely did. He definitely did.

[Tech N9ne]

I would a thousand percent take the allegations of me pissing on women before I allow y' all to make this true.

[Host 3]

What, that you. That you never told a girl that? That should be our kid?

[Host 2]

No.

[Host 3]

All right.

[Host 1]

I ain't rolling.

[Host 2]

All right, man.

[Host 3]

It's the Fourth of July. We ain't got a lot. It's the Fourth of July, but you ain't got a lot.

[Tech N9ne]

We the people was a fucking lie.

[Host 1]

You lying. It's the 4th of July.

[Tech N9ne]

Every man is created equally. Whatever the. They was lying in the whole thing.

[Host 1]

Like, you.

[Host 3]

Like, you just.

[Tech N9ne]

Like, you really think that I saw a girl have a baby, and I replied with, that should have been ours.

[Host 1]

Nah, I really saw.

[Host 3]

No, no. This is what Rory does. He paints a very specific thing. I'm not saying that's how you said it, but you've definitely had a girl that you liked or he was in love with, and y' all broke up and she went and had a baby, and somewhere around.

[Tech N9ne]

The only girl I've loved that has had a baby is Kia. All my exes don't have. Like, exes that I was in love with do not have.

[Host 1]

That's not what I'm saying.

[Tech N9ne]

There's bitches I fucked that I was like, damn, she pregnant now. But, like, that's not what I'm saying now. I can't beat.

[Host 1]

I'm saying a bitch done slid in your DMs and said all, congratulations. I meant to tell you congratulations. On the baby. And you said, thank you. We were supposed to have one.

[Tech N9ne]

All right.

[Host 3]

Oh, okay.

[Tech N9ne]

Okay, okay. That was okay.

[Host 3]

Baby D just did something.

[Tech N9ne]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Host 3]

100%. You did that. I don't want to hear that shit, Duck.

[Tech N9ne]

I thought the first one was egregious. That's the nastiest thing I've ever heard in my life.

[Host 1]

You wanted to say.

[Tech N9ne]

You said it while. I'm not within the first year of.

[Host 1]

Her life, but once you got more comfortable being a dad, round year, too, I. I wouldn't be surprised if you got it off. That's all I'm saying.

[Tech N9ne]

So you think I would look at my child, who I love, and go, n. It should be. You should be a different kid.

[Host 1]

You see.

[Tech N9ne]

See what he doing right there?

[Host 3]

Don't change it. Don't change it.

[Tech N9ne]

Every man of every color is equal.

[Host 3]

No, not saying that. You really believe that should have been hers saying that the child that you had should have been with her? Not. No, specifically, Amara should be.

[Host 1]

Yeah, like, we should have had a child.

[Host 3]

We should have had a child.

[Host 1]

You were supposed to be my first baby mother. Like, nobody sitting up there saying, oh, my God, I regret. I regret having a baby with Keith. No, don't put that on us. We ain't say that. We ain't say that.

[Tech N9ne]

Y' all think I was running around saying, yes, we do. I hope he was my first baby. Like, you think my goals was my first baby mother.

[Host 3]

We never said that.

[Tech N9ne]

That's what she just said.

[Host 3]

Okay, listen to what I'm saying. You definitely have had someone you have dated before respond to a post or something about your. Your child, a picture of Amara, Whatever. Whatever conversation goes on, and you've definitely insinuated that. Damn, I thought that would have been us.

[Tech N9ne]

No, not even, like, a tiny bit. And on top of the only place. The only place that I have posted Amara outside of her. Her playing on her DJ thing, which you can't even see her face, is in my close friends. Now, let me stop. I am not suggesting that there is not women in my close friends that I have not slept with. Oh, I'm about to say I'm here to tell the truth, but not. Not one of them has ever replied on some type of, like, shit of. That should have been art. Like, come on. There'd be. That would never even happen.

[Host 3]

I don't believe that.

[Host 1]

No, let him listen. I ain't gonna fight him on. He say what? He said, stop kicking me.

[Host 3]

He said, I want to fight. That's the Thing with me, baby. I like to fight. I'm fighting now. You lying.

[Tech N9ne]

You lying.

[Host 3]

You look at me in my eyes and you lying.

[Tech N9ne]

The only girl I could think of that would have the audacity to say that doesn't want kids. There's one girl I could think that would say some shit like that because I know her personality.

[Host 3]

Keep taking us to a dead end. Yo, nigga, you l reverse out of the dead end.

[Host 1]

I ain't even. I ain't even. I ain't. Okay, you. Have you told a girl yet that you. That Amar need a sister yet?

[Tech N9ne]

No, but I will get that off one day.

[Host 3]

M. He trying to give us a little bone right there. He like, nah, but I will get that. You got it off already, man.

[Host 1]

You said that when you was thigh in, you was five inches in.

[Host 3]

Hold on, hold on.

[Host 2]

See, I didn't. I didn't do that.

[Host 3]

It was fun before.

[Tech N9ne]

Everything was fun before. Wait, it's fun before? No, it's fun before.

[Host 3]

Not.

[Tech N9ne]

It was fun before.

[Host 3]

I'm not. I'm not.

[Tech N9ne]

It was fun before.

[Host 3]

I'm just saying. Baby D went crazy. She. She. I had nothing to do with that. That wasn't my energy. That's not what I was.

[Tech N9ne]

You can talk about my child. You talk about my child's life. You can talk about mothers to all that, but throwing five inches on me is crazy.

[Host 3]

I wasn't on that energy. Look, look. Go ahead.

[Host 1]

I'm not saying that you was all the way in.

[Tech N9ne]

No, no, no, no. You was just.

[Host 1]

You was just five in. It was a couple inches left. My do, my guy. I wasn't.

[Tech N9ne]

You know what I'm saying? Like, I wasn't doing you. Like, I was playing just the tip with five, right?

[Host 1]

Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

[Tech N9ne]

You wasn't even holding yet a foot.

[Host 3]

I don't know.

[Host 1]

Josh said five. A bet.

[Host 2]

Josh.

[Tech N9ne]

Hey, n. Once I found out his podcast was. Was walking around non soft. Yeah. Nah, five at just the tip is nuts.

[Host 3]

Yeah, I'm cool. I don't want no part of that convers.

[Host 1]

My bad, my bad. That's why y' all can't have me on this couch.

[Tech N9ne]

Okay, My bad. I can assure you guys, I have not said that. I'm not saying that. One day, maybe I won't say that, but no, I have not gotten that off. I have not been participating in. In those activities at 5 inches to even do something like that. That's a sick thing.

[Host 1]

Like, I'm definitely about to get Marina.

[Tech N9ne]

God, sister, here's How I know, like, this was fun for content. But even, like, thinking about my daughter if I'm about to. To me, is absolutely insane. Like, nah. Yeah, we gotta get Amara. No. Yeah, that would be an insane thing to even think when he was hard.

[Host 3]

Yeah, that's a little weird.

[Host 1]

I mean, Drake said adonis need a sibling.

[Tech N9ne]

That sounded great in a rap.

[Host 3]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

I get that off at dinner.

[Tech N9ne]

I don't know.

[Host 3]

Oh, my God.

[Host 1]

Y' all different.

[Tech N9ne]

And granted, I have been somebody that is definitely, like, told a chick mid, like, no, I'm gonna get you pregnant and didn't mean it.

[Host 3]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Host 1]

You might have meant it in the moment.

[Tech N9ne]

Oh, I meant it in the moment for sure. But nah, now that, like, that's fun to get off when you don't have kids and then you have a kid and you realize it could happen. Like, you shouldn't be playing with that.

[Host 3]

Word with sex at all.

[Tech N9ne]

Like, keep that to yourself. Yeah, it was fun when nobody had kids. Now it's like, yeah, yeah.

[Host 3]

Watch your mouth.

[Host 1]

You can't.

[Tech N9ne]

Don't even say that.

[Host 1]

Yeah, you can't say that to no woman over 32.

[Tech N9ne]

I haven't slept more than three hours.

[Host 3]

Put you in that scissor like that.

[Host 1]

Just like that.

[Tech N9ne]

Lock it.

[Host 3]

I'm ovulating, too.

[Host 1]

Lock it.

[Host 3]

That.

[Tech N9ne]

Yo, so me and Kia were having that conversation when Amara was born. We were like, all right, we do want to have more kids. Should we just knock it out? Like, should we take this four years to just get it out the way instead of, you know, waiting three years and then doing it again?

[Host 1]

Lord, ain't you happy? You ain't do that.

[Tech N9ne]

Listen, after a few months with Lamar, he was like, one kid cool. Like, we were saying all this of, like, two. Like, not. We should. Maybe we should just take a break, like, for life.

[Host 3]

Yeah.

[Tech N9ne]

And one, she's great. I don't know if I need a bunch of kids.

[Host 3]

You got all we need right here in this one little bundle of joy. That's it. That's all we need, yo.

[Tech N9ne]

Back to back kids.

[Host 3]

Did not. I don't know how. I don't know how women do it. I do not. I don't. I don't get it. Like, damn, you pregnant again. The other one ain't even walking yet.

[Host 1]

That's the best time, though, because once they're. The first four years gonna whoop your ass with them, too. But after that, you're gonna be good. You got them out of the way, but the first four years gonna whip your Ass.

[Tech N9ne]

Yeah, so I get why people just try to knock that. But I'm. I'm cool financially. Sleep wise. And listen, Amara gonna carry the legacy.

[Host 1]

She can't carry your last name. No. You ever thought about that? I mean, I'm carrying my daddy last name, but I'm. You know, they call me. I don't know if Amara gonna carry your last name.

[Tech N9ne]

I wish. I wish tomorrow would. No hyphen either. Take if. If Amara ends up being. What's the. You can't say Straight.

[Host 1]

Straight sis. Cisgender.

[Tech N9ne]

What if she becomes cisgender?

[Host 3]

What is that?

[Tech N9ne]

Oh, oh, well, you're born. But like, if she's straight. Listen, I don't know. All right, If Amar ends up being straight and gets married, like, he taking her last name.

[Host 3]

I don't know if that's gonna happen.

[Tech N9ne]

All right? Yeah, I don't know. We gonna see. You see how nelly putting it down?

[Host 1]

How would you take games feel if somebody was to tell you that about their daughter? Like, who the person you're dating say, nah, my daughter ain't taking your last name, you bum. Who the wants to be a pharaoh?

[Tech N9ne]

I'm not. I'm not them, and they're not me. Okay, well, I mean, white would have taken a little further.

[Host 1]

No, sorry.

[Tech N9ne]

You gonna take all five inches. This last name. Would you just be.

[Host 2]

That's.

[Tech N9ne]

That's the title episode. 5 inches.

[Host 2]

Sorry.

[Host 1]

Sorry.

[Tech N9ne]

Peach Photoshop my dick for the artwork. But even with kids, like, you gotta fill the time while they grow up of just like doing. You just got to find random activities throughout the entire day. That's why one is already enough. The fact that I would think SeaWorld would be a good idea to fill the time. Oh, God, Amara. And then I find out the Yin Yang Twins is performing. I'm only having one kid, man.

[Host 3]

Yeah, I saw the Yin Yang Twins at Sea World. Listen, you know, all right, man.

[Tech N9ne]

No, this is one of those where, like, we need to go back to the beginning of like, who is now running. Clearly the PR with Sea World has not been great. There's a lot of docs. I mean, it's pretty much Rikers island with an audience.

[Host 3]

It looked like it's sold out. They all there to watch who's beautiful majestic creature in captivity being stressed out and under anxiety and depressed.

[Tech N9ne]

Who?

[Host 1]

The Ying Yang Twins.

[Host 3]

No, the people. The people in the stands.

[Host 1]

No, I mean, is the Yin Yang Twins the thing in captivity? That's.

[Tech N9ne]

That's. That's up. That's why they was whispering so much. Here's my thing. If you're trying to rebrand and make a new image for SeaWorld. What landed on the Yin Yang Twins?

[Host 1]

Oh my God. Wait, that's him?

[Host 3]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

Oh, is he. Is he okay? He looks real okay. I knew the Yin Yang Twins were older, but he looks really, really old.

[Tech N9ne]

Can you imagine trying to take your kids to see Shamu?

[Host 3]

They bring up.

[Tech N9ne]

Can they bring out. And for our next act, you will be excited.

[Host 1]

Don't do that. You're a young millennial.

[Tech N9ne]

I would be hyped, but I'd be hyped for the wrong reason. Like, this is not what my kids need to see. At the time, the entire crowd was screaming, ah, skee, skeet, skeet, skeet. While Shamu with the dorfal fin bent over, was dying in captivity.

[Host 3]

I just think that sometimes it's good to say, nah, I'm cool.

[Host 1]

Well, Ma, you bought up a union for. For rappers.

[Host 3]

Oh, no, we Hip hop rap definitely needs a union. For sure. Absolutely.

[Host 1]

To make sure they never have to end up doing like this.

[Host 3]

Well, yeah.

[Tech N9ne]

I mean, yeah, I'm not asking the right questions. Do you think it was all in fee?

[Host 3]

That's it.

[Tech N9ne]

Like, what do you think? Like, I don't want to pocket watch. Like, what do we think? First of all, how did they find the Yin Yang Twins? Manager's email. I want to start there. How did they figure that out? Yeah, was Yin Yang Twins. What number were they on the list as far as performers at Sea World and had to. Yeah. Who passed them? Like, yeah, that's what I'm.

[Host 3]

Yeah, who passed? Who was like, nah, we ain't gonna be able to make it it.

[Tech N9ne]

And then 15k allin.

[Host 1]

I mean that ain't bad.

[Host 3]

After flights, it looks like it's in Florida, right?

[Tech N9ne]

Was this the San Diego or Florida one? San Diego.

[Host 3]

Oh, flights. Cuz they. I don't think they live in Cali. Right.

[Tech N9ne]

I'm just going to go out on a limit. I don't think the Yin Yang Twins live in San Diego.

[Host 1]

Ain't no black people in San Diego.

[Host 3]

I'm going take a guess. I'm going to take a stab at it. Only they live in San Diego.

[Host 1]

Only black people in San Diego in the military.

[Tech N9ne]

So. All right, we're gonna assume from Atlanta to San Diego. Josh. We just look up Priceline round trip right now. You gotta think they added in one manager. They probably, you know, I with the Yin Yang Twins, but I don't know if they're like in demand to be booked. So, you know, they Stunning on at least one of their hoes in Atlanta and was like, yo, you come with me to San Diego. I got this little gig. So add in a manager, two unsolicited women from Atlanta, them. I mean, do we think Sea world provided the DJ, or do we think it came with the DJs? Because now we're at five people. Yeah, yeah, Cali tax, plus whatever that entertainment when you're performing. Tax.

[Host 3]

I mean, I ain't pocket watching. But what if they gave him a crazy bag? I'm just saying, what if.

[Host 1]

I don't think it was over 15k.

[Host 3]

I just. I don't know. I'm not pocket watching.

[Tech N9ne]

All right, but what if they had a crazy bag? Why do you think they landed on the Ying Gang Twins?

[Host 3]

No, that's the first. That's what we. We need that answer. Like, who. Who passed on the gig and was like, nah, we ain't really making it. And they got to Yin Yang. Or was Yin Yang the first?

[Tech N9ne]

You never know.

[Host 3]

You never know. You listen, man. You never know. Yin Yang might have been the first call they made. It was like, yo, we want the Yin Yang twin.

[Tech N9ne]

Can you imagine that zoom call of all the people that imprison these animals? Because, you know, they're sick human beings. They get on a zoom and like, yeah, we got the new. New publicist here. She wants to, you know, ramp up. And then they do the share screen and show the whisper song video, and.

[Host 3]

They'Re like, that's it.

[Tech N9ne]

This is where we going.

[Host 1]

That's. That's. That's gonna bring the people out.

[Tech N9ne]

Like, remember when we had Michael Jackson singing as a whale was jumping over a bed of rocks to be free? Look at we're at now.

[Host 3]

Yeah, yeah.

[Tech N9ne]

Because Michael freed the whales. Ying ain't gonna keep him in there. That's. That's where they. They got Michael Jackson singing to free the whales. We all looked at Sea World after that. Like, yeah, that kid had a point. And Michael was singing, these majestic creatures are being imprisoned. They saw that PR and was like, yin Yang Twins, let's keep them locked up. We're gonna whisper all the bad things that we're doing to these whales, y'. All. That was hilarious.

[Host 2]

Yeah.

[Tech N9ne]

I mean, with all that said, speaking.

[Host 3]

Of five, we do have another number joining the legendary. The legendary number.

[Tech N9ne]

Yes.

[Host 3]

Legendary.

[Tech N9ne]

My guy, Tech9. This was. This was a big deal for Peach, man.

[Host 3]

Yeah, that's.

[Tech N9ne]

That's one of Peej's favorite rappers. Hometown hero.

[Host 3]

Absolutely.

[Tech N9ne]

You know, we didn't put a camera on Peach for it. But he did come in with his face painted. You know, I thought he should conduct the interview, but you know, yeah, we stepped in. Peach, I hope you think, you know, we did your city proud.

[Host 3]

Hope we made you proud, Peach.

[Tech N9ne]

But yeah, that was a big thing. And I shout out to Tech9 the Legend Tech9 album is. By the time this comes out, it's. It's out already. No, it was great to kick it with with Technoman. I enjoyed the conversation. He's a really, really cool person.

[Host 3]

Anytime we could kick it with legends is dope. So Tech was, you know, definitely a legend as far as I'm concerned. And it's always good to, you know, get some some gems and hear their stories. And listen man, like you said, he's still moving tickets. So Tech 9 still out here kicking ass. So let's get into it.

[Host 2]

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[Tech N9ne]

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[Host 3]

All right Rory, we are back. Today we are joined by. You know it's always great when we have guests but today this is. This guest is a little different. This is a legend. Yes, we have in in the home today, in the crib. Today we are joined by the legendary. And I mean that in every sense of the word. If you know anything about this gentleman then you know exactly what I mean. We are joined by the legendary Kansas City Legend Tech 9.

[Host 2]

Yes sir, thanks for having me.

[Tech N9ne]

And I hate using the term like trailblazer and all that type of stuff, but when it comes to the independent world, this is somebody that I. I've idolized and took notes from from a distance.

[Host 2]

As far as the independence out there, early in the Game.

[Tech N9ne]

Yeah. So I. I say a. A legend in, I think, changing the entire independent game.

[Host 2]

Yeah, man. I mean, once you had record deals, major record deals like myself. My first record deal was with the Jimmy, Jim and Terry Lewis in 93. Perspective, A and M. That didn't go right. 97, Quincy Jones, rest. Rest his soul with Question Warner. That didn't go right. You know what I'm saying?

[Tech N9ne]

Slow down for a second. You can't just come out the game.

[Host 2]

I'm just saying. I'm just saying. I'm just saying. Mugs called me Michael Jackson, you know what I'm saying?

[Host 3]

Like, we. Hold on, because these are the. These are the creme de la creme. These are the guys that have the soundtrack to our lives and produce the greatest songs that we've ever.

[Host 2]

Oh, yeah. It wasn't their fault, though. Jimmy, Jim and Terry Lewis, it was like the people that worked for them at the Sign at the time. Sharon Hayward, she didn't know what to do with me, okay? You know what I'm saying? They weren't never there, man. They. They big wig. Same thing with Quincy. He was never there, you know what I'm saying? But whenever he come home to LA and we have a meeting at his house in Bel Air, that wasn't a flex or nothing, but that's just what happened. Yeah, they treat you right. I'm like, nah, man, they trying to make me do popcorn shit. And he'll fire everybody. So they hated us.

[Tech N9ne]

Okay, but how did that even come together? Because 93, Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis were still coming off a lot of the New Edition stuff. Like what made them want to go rap at that time?

[Host 2]

Well, they had a. They had a group on the label called Low Key from Kansas City, Missouri. R B label group, okay? And the guy who was doing music for me, DJ Icy Rock, he was in cahoots with Lance and Prof. And all them, the guys in the group.

[Tech N9ne]

Yeah.

[Host 2]

And they like, man, we really love Tech. We want to shop him to Jimmy and Terry. And they loved it and they signed me. That was my first record deal in 93, man. You know what I'm saying?

[Host 3]

Yeah. That's Jimmy Jam and Tech. This is like, you know, back 93, 94. Those were, if you wanted anybody to.

[Tech N9ne]

Be in the studio, biggest producers in the world.

[Host 2]

I'm laughing. I'm laughing because my first meeting with them, they are wild, you know. Say they're super energetic, like Tech, man, you just gotta remember, fat, buy your records, man. They fix you food. You gotta have your Fat.

[Host 3]

Yeah.

[Tech N9ne]

It'd be the. Be the intangibles of why producers are so successful sometimes not the music. It's just having the mind to know what you have to focus on.

[Host 2]

I wonder if they remember that, you know what I'm saying? I'm talking real.

[Host 3]

Yeah.

[Host 2]

What they remember telling you feel that way, you know what I'm saying?

[Host 3]

Yeah.

[Tech N9ne]

Were they in the whole get up?

[Host 2]

Yeah, the whole get up with the hat and everything. I don't think they had on the glasses. Maybe. Maybe that's w. Yeah, they had on the hat. Black. Yeah.

[Tech N9ne]

Yeah.

[Host 2]

Because they would have like lot parties where I would perform, you know what I'm saying?

[Host 3]

Okay.

[Host 2]

For the industry people that are there out on the A and M lot, you know what I'm saying?

[Host 3]

What does that do for a young Tech, though, like to. To be in, you know, the room with these. The guys that we all grew up looking at and watching, and now you're actually there and talking music and in the studio with these guys, these legendary producers. Like, what does that do for you as an artist?

[Host 2]

Nervous as fuck, but listening to everything.

[Host 3]

Soaking it up, you know what I'm saying?

[Host 2]

Soaking it up, man. You know what I mean?

[Host 3]

And then Quincy Jones, obviously, I mean, that's.

[Host 2]

Oh, my goodness. When he told me, he said, tech, your style reminds me of bebop. I'm like, ah. I'm like, okay, all right, all right, all right. You know what I mean? And the song that he heard because his son was doing music for me as well, you know what I'm saying? QD 3. Doing music for me, Pac. That's how I got. Does get lonely too, with Pac, you know what I'm saying? A lot of people don't know that because it was never released because it had a print sample, you know what I'm saying? But you recorded that in studio with Pac? No, no, no, no, no. We was talking about it before. Cause I met pac in like 93 out in LA, you know what I'm saying? And when I signed with Quincy Jones and started doing music with QD3, he always talked to me about getting on a song with Pac, you know what I'm saying? He died, you know, a little bit afterwards, and QD3 called me and said, hey, man, you still want to do that song, Pac? I'm like, hell yeah, send it to me. I did it.

[Tech N9ne]

That's interesting, because I feel like there was always that rumor that Quincy Jones just didn't like Pac in comments. And I know Pac was dating his daughter. At the time. Yeah, Yeah, I. That's good to know that that rumor that's all over YouTube is false. Of like, Quincy really hate sign me.

[Host 2]

Of just hating like Crazy Ass Tech 9, you know what I'm saying? He signed me, but he was never there either, you know what I'm saying? And people were working up that there at Quest, and It didn't work out. 98. We signed a deal with J Core, Interscope.

[Host 3]

Didn'T work out.

[Host 2]

Me and Trav said that we're gonna. We're gonna show them what strange music is, you know what I'm saying? And we're 25 years strong with strange music now, man.

[Host 3]

How does that. Because, I mean, Anybody that knows Tech9 knows exactly what you did and, you know. Independently.

[Host 2]

Yes.

[Host 3]

And just, you know, the shit that you've been able to accomplish is. Me and Rory were talking last week like, yo, we gotta just. I wanna just talk to him about being on that. The side of independence. Early on, before it was even a thought for most people to go independent and be independent.

[Host 2]

I had no choice because I had these major deals and they didn't know what to do with a black dude with red spiked hair with his face painted with a bishop's robe on and naked taking it off after the first song, you know what I'm saying? What the do you do to that? You know what I'm saying? It's gangster, it's gospel, it's jazzy, it's, you know, it's. It's. It's hip hop, you know what I'm saying? It's like. It's everything, man. You know what I'm saying? So they didn't know what to do, so we had to show them what to do. And now when we're looking back and we have all these platinum and gold plaques for songs that didn't have radio or video, Worldwide Choppers is platinum, man.

[Host 3]

That's crazy.

[Host 2]

Caribou Lou is platinum. No, no video, no radio, you know what I'm saying? Dysfunctional, you know what I'm saying? Same thing. Gold album, you know what I'm saying? No video, no radio. And you think about that, and it's the fan fare that did it.

[Tech N9ne]

I mean, with that mentality, like coming off Jimmy Jam, Terry Lewis, right to Quincy Jones, like you're checking off Legends there. Then it's like, all right, go to Interscope. Interscope has the machine that doesn't work out. Did you have a blueprint for the independent game or were you just like, no, it. No, because none of this is the greatest shit that I'm supposed to, like, didn't work out with the major.

[Host 2]

Travis was already a multimillionaire because he had a furniture works business. You know what I mean? Furniture works. Like they fix furniture for people. Like, if you, like, he has a. He has a. He had a. A contract with Sears. And, you know, okay, so if somebody turns it back into Sears, they'll call his company. And he had them all over the U.S. you know what I'm saying? So he'd done well for himself, and he wasn't really, really into what the music business was about, but he knew that we had something, you know what I mean? And I wasn't gonna stop until I got it to people.

[Tech N9ne]

Yeah.

[Host 2]

So when I was out there with Quincy Jones, this is how the whole thing started. When I was signed to Quincy Jones, they gave us. They took us to Windswept Pacific. It was like a publishing company. It was a publisher, not like it was publishing company. And when they asked me what I wanted my name to be for my publishing company, I said, EGN Arts Music Entertainment Group 9 Music. You know what I'm saying? But if you read EGN Arts backwards, it's strange. I'm a humongous Doors fan, okay? You know what I'm saying? Jim Morrison, John Dinsmore, Robbie Krieger, Ray Manzarek, their fusion of sounds crazy to me. You know what I'm saying? So when I met Travis, I said, yo, I want to call it strange music, man, but I want it to be. I want the. The S to be a snake symbolizing medicine. You see it on the rod of Asclepius, on all the hospitals. You know what I'm saying? Medicine, the study of medicine. The snake to be the An S. Snake to represent the medicine. And then the bat is the nocturnal, you know what I'm saying? We navigate. We are the medicine to navigate through the darkness, you know what I'm saying? And we had to go through different people that do logos to get it right when this one, this Mexican guy got it right, man. You know what I'm saying? Back in the day yet. And now. Now it's. Now it's everywhere, you know I'm saying it's on people's.

[Tech N9ne]

I was tattooed on people's foreheads.

[Host 2]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Tech N9ne]

Your fans are next level in the most amazing way.

[Host 2]

Yeah.

[Tech N9ne]

What they'll do. I mean, even having, you know, a partner that has furniture company and money to back it, you could burn up capital really quick.

[Host 2]

Oh, yeah, we Went on, we lost 140 or 180,000.

[Tech N9ne]

If and when. When it's not coming from a major. Where, yeah, you'll owe it back, but maybe they'll release you and you won't have to owe that debt. Did you have everything mapped out early on? Even with having a partner that had the bread? Cause you could spend that a month.

[Host 2]

Nah, we just. We, we. I can't remember if we bought onto this tour. We probably did. I don't know if you remember, Richie, but in 2002, the album came out. 2001. In 2002, we went on the Sprite Liquid Mix Tour with Jay Z. 311 Nerd Crazy Tour. Hoobastank, the rock band at the time. Nappy Roots, Talib Kweli. They said Kanye was on that tour. I didn't see him. Chris Calico talked to him. He played him some soul beats that is gonna blow up. I didn't see the nigga. I didn't see him. I wish I would've, you know what I'm saying? I don't know if we paid to be on a tour. I don't know. Kevin Lyman was throwing it, you know what I'm saying? Spy, Liquid Mixture and Motherfuckers was coming out on our set. Jay Z Nim, they was hearing about me doing this ring. Pharrell had me coming out jumping on lap dance, you know what I'm saying? Like, do the crowd search for me on. I'm like, yeah, I got you.

[Tech N9ne]

I got you.

[Host 2]

I got you. You know what I'm saying? It was really good, man. But we was making a lot of noise around that time. And then right after that, 2003, I went on the gathering of the Juggalos tour with ICP and Bone, Thus in Harmony and Cottonmouth Kings and other folks, you know what I'm saying? And that gained a gang of more fans of Juggalos.

[Tech N9ne]

Yeah.

[Host 2]

On top of the fans that I had from early the early days, man, and just been piling on ever since.

[Tech N9ne]

Was. Was ICP good representation or blueprint of what you're. Because what you're trying to do? Because they're.

[Host 2]

We'd never saw. We had never seen anything like that. The fandom like that.

[Tech N9ne]

Also one of the best independent with tattoos ever existed.

[Host 2]

I hadn't seen a Tech9 tattoo on my fans before the Juggalos. I don't know. I could be wrong, but I. I didn't.

[Tech N9ne]

Yeah.

[Host 2]

You know what I'm saying? And their merchandise and their stage show, everything was just Tip top, man. You know what I'm saying? So we learned a lot on that tour.

[Tech N9ne]

Yeah. I mean, I remember, like, I forgot what year it was. I think MTV did some, like, behind the scenes with them where they toured their whole complex.

[Host 2]

Yes, sir.

[Tech N9ne]

And, like, there's a radio station where I was like, this is. I was like, this is insane.

[Host 2]

Yes.

[Tech N9ne]

This is a.

[Host 3]

Sir.

[Tech N9ne]

Not realizing, once I got older, I was like, oh, that was a full corporation.

[Host 2]

Yes.

[Tech N9ne]

These guys were not just artists. This was.

[Host 2]

Oh, man. They created something very special, man. You know what I'm saying? And they could do it forever if they wanted to. And to think that we'd still be doing it and we'd be in our 25th year right now, man, that's a testament.

[Host 3]

Yeah.

[Host 2]

To great product. To people coming to your show saying, you gotta see this on stage.

[Host 3]

Yeah.

[Host 2]

You know what I'm saying? You gotta see tech9, you know what I mean?

[Host 3]

Tech, you wanted to. You one of the guys in hip hop and rap that. I think you knocked down all stereotypes when it comes to one longevity.

[Host 2]

Yes.

[Host 3]

Because, you know, we like to say we don't. We can't tour rap hip hop. When artists are in their 50s and things like that, or late 40s. It's like it becomes corny or becomes. You have completely dismantled that whole idea or theory that you can't do it because your shows are insane.

[Host 2]

Dude, I'm about to be 54 in November.

[Host 3]

Yeah.

[Host 2]

And still killing young niggas on stage.

[Host 3]

Right, right.

[Host 2]

I'm just talking about. I ain't just talking about. I, you know, I do my little dances and here and there, but I'm a gangster, you know what I'm saying?

[Host 3]

That's them dance with boogie.

[Host 2]

But it's like. I'm just saying, you know, I rap up in that.

[Host 3]

No, for sure.

[Host 2]

You know what I'm saying? And I got my live band with me now, man, you know, sizzling. And I feel like I'm getting better at everything, you know what I'm saying? Like, with my. With my. With my new album, with just my new verses, I do for Motherfucker. I just did a verse for Graph out here. I don't know if I was supposed to say that. Graph.

[Tech N9ne]

Sorry.

[Host 2]

You know what I'm saying?

[Tech N9ne]

We love Graph.

[Host 2]

Like, me and Conway did one on my last album with Joyner, Lucas and X rated, man. You know what I'm saying? I'm just. I'm still in there.

[Host 3]

Yeah.

[Host 2]

With them young, you know what I'm saying? And. And. And I Feel like hip hop is the only genre that gets that said.

[Host 3]

Oh, absolutely, absolutely. And it's crazy. And that's why I'm saying you're the goddess. Like, look at tech. Like go to a tech show tonight and see what. And see what's going on.

[Host 2]

But when you look at the, the. The actual major sellers.

[Host 3]

Yeah.

[Host 2]

Like Jay Z and Eminem and Lil Wayne and. Come on, my. We up there. We up there.

[Host 3]

Yeah, yeah.

[Host 2]

I don't know how old J. Cole is.

[Host 3]

Yeah.

[Host 2]

You know what I'm saying? I don't know how old Kendrick is. You know, they're younger though, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But you youngest. Look at Jake. Look at, look at, look at LL Cool J, man.

[Host 3]

Right?

[Host 2]

That right? Found the fountain of youth a long time ago.

[Host 3]

Yeah, yeah.

[Host 2]

You know what I'm saying? It's like, it's just that say, you know, like, that's corny. If you 50 and rap, please.

[Host 3]

Right.

[Host 2]

I chop down.

[Host 3]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Tech N9ne]

I mean, it's just, I think hip hop just because it's so. It's so young. It's like the youngest genre of music that we haven't been able to see it age. We the only rappers that we have seen age have went into other things. Like ll, for example, of course, could still do Rock the Bells tomorrow if he wanted to, but he went into acting. This is the first time we are seeing how hip hop can actually age. And hip hop fans are getting older too. When I'm 50, I want to go. I still want to see my favorite rappers. When I'm 50.

[Host 3]

Have you seen.

[Host 2]

Have you seen Will Smith do Brand New Funk Motherfucker? That's just. Still dope. Still dope. Still dope. Summertime. Still dope.

[Host 3]

I just think that it's a. Because like you said, we haven't. Oh, no, not Will.

[Host 2]

I saw Rakim. I saw Rakim like two years ago in Casey. Took pictures with him and everything. Dope. What I saw was dope, right? You know what I'm saying? And his dj, DJ Tech or whatever, he kind of got a name like me or some technician or something like that. You know what I'm saying? And they gave me shout outs and you know what I mean? And it was a great show, man. It was a hip hop show, man.

[Host 3]

Yeah.

[Tech N9ne]

I mean, look, listen. The first Jay Z show at the Barclays Center, Big Daddy Kane opened and was incredible.

[Host 2]

Do the splits.

[Tech N9ne]

Yeah. No dancers, everything.

[Host 2]

You know what I'm saying?

[Tech N9ne]

Even when they did verses with krs1 and big daddy K. Like these guys are performers for real. Like, there's no reason why hip hop can't age that way with touring the same way rock does.

[Host 2]

You see Melly Mel in this?

[Host 3]

Yeah, yeah, Roy's.

[Host 2]

And I think I went against Eminem, you know, like, damn, Melly, man, he.

[Tech N9ne]

Go against everybody else. The more. The moment the Internet started, Melly, I was like, yo, I'm dishing everybody.

[Host 3]

Oh my God. He don't give. Melly Mel don't give a.

[Host 2]

You don't get no.

[Host 3]

Yeah, he don't care.

[Host 2]

Saying to that point, man, you know, that's just some shit that niggas have said that. You know, I say that because that was my retort to a lot of shit that people might say to me.

[Host 3]

Yeah.

[Host 2]

And Chris Calico made fun of me. Like I always said, that's just some shit some niggas had said.

[Host 3]

Yeah, somebody just said it before, you.

[Host 2]

Know what I'm saying? Somebody said it that it's corny to.

[Host 3]

Be old, but there are young guys who can't one sell out a show. Like Tech Na can't perform. Like Tech definitely can't rap like him and he's in his 50s. Whereas these new 22, 23 year olds, it's like, is that even rap? Like, I don't even know what that is. Like we gotta call it. Cause I'm one of those guys. I think that we have to start calling this something else. Cause a lot of this is not rap.

[Tech N9ne]

They think it's profitable.

[Host 2]

Listen, listen, listen. We've lived to see hip hop do many things. I was there at the very beginning when I first heard Blowfly with Rap dirty, you know what I'm saying? It was back in the day when we used to buy everything that was hip hop oriented like we had. We bought Davey D and found out it wasn't really rap, it was singing and shit like that, you know what I'm saying? Have you seen Davey? You know what I'm saying? We're like, what the fuck is this? But it's still got some hip hop in it, you know what I'm saying? We buying everything. Ultra magnetic MCs, you know what I'm saying? Just everything, man. Tough crew, Everything MC Shy D, you know what I mean? Just all we seen hip hop do everything, you know what I'm saying? It didn't just. It didn't stop with Native Tongues, but it was fucking amazing.

[Host 3]

Yeah.

[Host 2]

You know what I'm saying? But it kept going, you know what I'm saying? Defo L Soulja Boy, you know what I'm saying? We all talk shit. If they weren't lyrical, but it's levels to this shit, y'. All. We're just all up under the hip hop umbrella, my nigga, you know what I'm saying? So when you listen to. I hear songs from Lil Teca, I like my nigga, and I'm a lyrical mc, you know what I'm saying? I'm a fucking Travis Scott fan, you know what I'm saying? I fuck with Young Thug, you know what I'm saying? They don't do what I do. I don't do what they do. But we are indeed under the hip hop umbrella, and we do different things. And a lot of these niggas sound alike, but at the same time, everybody got their voice, you know what I'm saying? Future got his own voice. To me, it was similarities with Timmy Timmy, Timmy Turner, but not really the same voice. Yeah, you know what I mean? Everybody said it. I got bitches in Atlanta, whatever. I got hoes in Atlanta, whatever the fuck niggas say. Designer, you know what I'm saying? It was similar, but everybody got their voice, you know? When you hear Travis Scott, when you hear Lil Yachty, when you hear Lil Uzi Vert, when you hear, you know, whoever it is, Tentacion, you know what I'm saying? Juice wrld. Rest in peace. Rest in peace, you know what I'm saying? These motherfuckers are just another level up under this umbrella called hip hop, you know what I'm saying? What would you call it other than everybody's singing? It's not R and B, it's R and B. It's like. Like. It's like R B with some of them. And then it's. It's. It's kind of punk with, you know, XXXTentacion kind of brought the punk yelling and shit up, up, you know what I'm saying? I got my finger on the pulse, my nigga. And I understand from being a dancer, Pop Locker, before I started writing, rhymes with rhythm can't rhyme. I can appreciate why, motherfucker. I pop, I roll, you know what I'm saying? I can appreciate that shit, but still be an intricate emcee, right? You know what I'm saying? Because I wanted to be a drummer, you know what I'm saying? But I couldn't afford. My family couldn't afford to buy me drums. So I beat on my chest, you know what I'm saying? So with rhythm came rhyme, nigga. I wanted to. When you hear Shit like follow me all around the planet I run the gamut on psychology they can never manage me do damage with no apology Pick them off the panic, a little manner. Cause I gotta befriend like I'm a jammy because I'm a naughty. That's like the bongos, you know what I'm saying? That's me playing drums with my motherfucking mouth.

[Host 3]

Right.

[Host 2]

I used to beatbox too, you know what I'm saying? Before I rapped for other rappers. So I'm gonna be a little bit different with my idea of what's going on now in the mainstream because I'm rooted in dance and drum and everything. And I understand the pulses. Even though we secretly laugh at a lot of these niggas.

[Tech N9ne]

Yeah. Ye.

[Host 2]

Yeah. Secretly. Cuz what I say to everybody, be careful what you say on your social media, cuz we going to see each other. My right, we going to see each other no matter what levels we on.

[Tech N9ne]

Yeah. Oh, it's going to happen.

[Host 2]

We going to see each other.

[Tech N9ne]

Festivals exist.

[Host 2]

Yes.

[Tech N9ne]

Artist village exists.

[Host 2]

Yes.

[Tech N9ne]

You go run into some. Airports exist, run into somebody.

[Host 2]

I remember back in the day, I was in my feelings before I mastered. I'm still mastering it though. I'm not going to front and say I got it all the way mastered. But before I mastered emotional control or emotional intelligence, Rakim, Ghostface and people were on tour and whoever was booking it in Lawrence, Kansas, called us and said, the tickets are not selling. Can we add tech to it? You know what I'm saying? They wanted to put me on last with these mega.

[Host 3]

Yeah.

[Host 2]

And I'm like, I don't know if I should go on last. You know, that's how I felt.

[Host 3]

Yeah.

[Host 2]

But they said Rakim said, nah, that I'm not. I'm not coming to the show if I'm not ending it. I was heartbroken.

[Host 3]

Rakim said he's not doing the show if he's not ending it.

[Host 2]

Yeah, yeah. I was heartbroken because I wanted to meet him back then.

[Host 3]

Yeah.

[Host 2]

And I thought it was a jab at me.

[Host 3]

Okay, okay, I can see that.

[Host 2]

So I did a song like. I grabbed the mic, I hit the stage, grab the mic and blow them all away. I blow them all away. And I talk about the run in we had with Keisha Cole in it. The run in with, you know, Rakim. And when I played it for brother Ali, I said, it's not a diss, man. It's just me expressing my. You know what I'm saying? He said he's gonna take that as a diss. He's gonna take that as a diss. And Bugs is behind me, like, clapping his hands, said, no, no, no, no. It's Brother Ali, bro. It's cool.

[Host 3]

It's cool. We were at a festival. I'm trying to baffle Brother Ali.

[Host 2]

We were at a festival, and I know Brother Ali, and I'm like, I got this song, and this is what it sound like. Da, da, da, da, da, da. And Brother Ali and Rakim are like this. And that's why I was talking to him. I was like, just. I just want to get him on the phone, man, and get an understanding. You know what I'm saying? And he was like, he's gonna take that as a diss. He's gonna take that as a diss.

[Host 3]

Yeah.

[Host 2]

And Mugs just like, yeah. I'm like, no, no, no, no, no. It's not. It's not that. Yeah, it's not that. It's not that.

[Host 3]

Yeah.

[Host 2]

I said, get us on the phone, Brother Ali. You know what I'm saying? But I think Bumpy Knuckles handled it, you know what I'm saying? Freddie Fox.

[Host 3]

Yeah.

[Host 2]

That's how deep I'm in, You know what I'm saying? Him and Mugs is like this. I got Freddie Fox on a song, my nigga.

[Host 3]

Yeah.

[Host 2]

You know what I'm saying?

[Host 3]

And if you don't know Freddie Fox, he's one of those. He's a. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Real.

[Host 2]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Very real. Rakim said, man, I ain't tripping on that.

[Host 3]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Host 2]

So when it came to Kansas City.

[Tech N9ne]

In the mix, and. No, when it came to Kansas City.

[Host 2]

I went to the show, and I got down there where he was afterwards, and it was love. It was everything. We took pictures, man. It was dope, man.

[Host 3]

Yeah. Sometimes. I mean, you need.

[Host 2]

But I say that to say we gonna see each other, y'. All.

[Host 3]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Host 2]

We're gonna see each other.

[Host 3]

So absolutely.

[Host 2]

Are saying. I see the young talking.

[Host 3]

Who are some of the. Who are some of the younger that you. You look at you like, I like. I like them. I like what they doing. I like their aesthetic. I like their style. I love their performance. Like, who are some of the younger artists today that you look at?

[Host 2]

I like. I like Jid.

[Host 3]

Oh, okay.

[Host 2]

You know what I'm saying? I. Oh, like Pookie, he sent me a track, and I fucking got sick around. He sent it on November 7th. The day before my birthday, November 8th. I forgot what I was doing. I was doing some Shows or something. Around Thanksgiving, when I was gonna do it, I got sick. That lasted for a while. I had this cough. It was so fucked up. I never get sick, man. You know what I'm saying? So I couldn't get in the studio. My nose is all fucked up. Right after I got better, I did a run, like, in our region. Being in that van with that coach. I got sick again. I got sick three times on this nigga, man, till it got to January and I missed it. It. So I owe, like Pooky to Jid.

[Host 3]

Yeah.

[Host 2]

You know what I'm saying? He sent me a song. I missed it. But just so we know, I owe, like, Pooky, you know what I'm saying? Y' all probably. Y' all know who Pooky is?

[Host 3]

Yeah.

[Tech N9ne]

Yeah.

[Host 3]

New Jack City.

[Host 2]

Okay. Okay. Okay. I'm just making sure. Y might be young. My. I don't know. I look young as. I don't know.

[Host 3]

No, that's definitely you.

[Tech N9ne]

You 54 look younger than me.

[Host 2]

I don't know about that.

[Host 3]

Well, that's good. That's good. We know white people that age a little different from us. Like their age bit.

[Tech N9ne]

A little.

[Host 3]

Little like. Like a banana.

[Host 2]

You couldn't be more than 34.

[Tech N9ne]

I turned 35.

[Host 2]

See? I'll take it.

[Tech N9ne]

I just figured somebody that was on.

[Host 2]

The road for you ain't even near 40.

[Host 3]

I'm 43.

[Host 2]

No.

[Host 3]

Yeah.

[Tech N9ne]

And no. And. And he hiding the best hairline of all time under that hat.

[Host 3]

I'll be 44 this year.

[Host 2]

You see my hair?

[Host 3]

Yeah. You can let it go a long time.

[Host 2]

I'll try and tell you. That's what I was trying to tell all the niggas that dyed their hair red nowadays.

[Tech N9ne]

Like, you're gonna pay for it.

[Host 2]

I made. I made a post. I said, Lil Yachty.

[Host 3]

Yeah.

[Host 2]

You know what I'm saying? Uzi. Vert. I forgot who else was in there. I forgot who else was in there.

[Host 3]

Yeah.

[Host 2]

I said, this is the result. All that dyeing your hair.

[Host 3]

Yeah. It's gone. It's gonna leave you.

[Host 2]

We ain't supposed to do that. Young thug, too. Wayne.

[Host 3]

Yeah.

[Host 2]

Yeah. Wayne.

[Host 3]

Holding on.

[Host 2]

I'm saying, this is what happens when we dye our hair. And I was getting. That's when I was back doing drugs. Ecstasy, shrooms, acid, all that kind of back in the day.

[Host 3]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Host 2]

I was destined to lose my. So in 2006, I cut that off. I had, like, a Caesar, you know what I'm saying? I remember, you know what I'm saying? About to bubble. About to bubble, you know, no hair no more. No red hair.

[Host 3]

But sooner or later, that shit started going.

[Host 2]

Going back.

[Tech N9ne]

Yeah, Wayne's an anomaly.

[Host 2]

Then I was getting braids when the was going back. So I look like a Klingon, you know what I'm saying? If you see 09tech9my. I look like a cleanup. I'm like, why these didn't tell me.

[Tech N9ne]

None of my friends, yo. I was like, yo, what you doing?

[Host 3]

What you gonna tell Check yo, that hairline, yo, that hairstyle look crazy.

[Host 2]

My.

[Host 3]

Why you gonna say that?

[Host 2]

My people didn't tell me. Y' all motherfuckers ain't right. I did a. I did a Michael Jackson album cover on an album called Killer, you know what I'm saying? So, you know, I got naturally curly hair and shit. You know what I'm saying? You know? So it's like they didn't tell me my shit was slanted right here. You know, my afro was kind of slanted. And you could see it if you look at my killer album cover. I'm like this, like Michael Jackson. But I got on.

[Host 3]

Josh, pull it up.

[Host 2]

I got on a straight jacket. I got on a straight jacket at it. They said, you know, my only double album.

[Host 3]

Yeah.

[Host 2]

Got my all white J's on. Still got my W J on. I'm just saying. Different kind, you know what I'm saying? Got a. A on my legs. Painted like a tiger instead of tiger like he had. You know what I'm saying? But my afro wasn't all the way Afroing my. In the back.

[Host 3]

Yeah.

[Host 2]

And I'm like, maybe I was. Maybe I was not wanting to accept it.

[Host 3]

You ain't want to hear nothing.

[Host 2]

Yeah, but nobody told me.

[Host 3]

Look at that.

[Host 2]

You see how it slanted?

[Host 3]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay.

[Host 2]

You see I slanted. That's the beginning of my shit thinning.

[Host 3]

Okay, Gotcha.

[Host 2]

You see that shit?

[Tech N9ne]

You see that slant?

[Host 2]

That's supposed to be a full fro, like Michael Jackson's curl. That's my real hair.

[Host 3]

It looked like you might have, like, leaned back on the.

[Host 2]

No, it's thinning right there. You know what I'm saying?

[Host 3]

So that's when it started leaving you.

[Host 2]

Yeah, it started thinning, holmes.

[Host 3]

Okay.

[Host 2]

You know, that was the beginning of the thinning and the beginning of the thinning.

[Tech N9ne]

Beginning of the thinning.

[Host 2]

So my people didn't tell me. You know what I'm saying? My was leaving. But as I got it, I started cutting it shorter after that. It was really. And then I went to A mohawk after that because it was moving all the way back. So I had a. I turned into a red mohawk. And they were like, damn, he's punk rock. Check nine.

[Host 3]

Yeah.

[Host 2]

No, I was trying to hide that.

[Host 3]

I was losing my shit.

[Tech N9ne]

Josh Poke, decipher shit. What haircut? I forgot the day we. We met, which I know you don't remember, which is fine. I was in your bet cipher in the background, just nodding my head.

[Host 2]

Okay, you can see through that. You can see through that. Look at that receding on live tv. You see how I was leaving? You see, I got. I got naturally curly hair.

[Host 3]

And see, I see curling.

[Host 2]

Yeah, that's the end of my. Right there. After this, I said, man, this. I was getting Beijing right back then. I should have got it for this. I was getting Beijing that was running down my face doing performances. I can't use Beijing no more.

[Tech N9ne]

Sorry, yo, you perform as much as you do, there's no way Beijing can no longer.

[Host 2]

Man, I was holding on. Hold on to your hand well, go.

[Tech N9ne]

Back to the wide. Look at me holding on for dear life of trying to even catch the rhythm of your flow.

[Host 2]

What?

[Tech N9ne]

I was on the 1 3. I don't know what beat I was on.

[Host 2]

That's you.

[Tech N9ne]

That's me in the background.

[Host 2]

No, what was you doing back there? You just gonna rap? What's he gonna do?

[Host 3]

So it looked like he was there with mgk.

[Tech N9ne]

So that's me in the Slow Bucks T shirt next to Big Crit and J Rock.

[Host 2]

Oh, that's you?

[Tech N9ne]

Yeah, that's you.

[Host 2]

So without the beard?

[Tech N9ne]

Yeah. Big Crit being from Mississippi.

[Host 2]

Yes.

[Tech N9ne]

He didn't come with anybody, and everyone, like, had their crew to fill out the back. And I was working for Shot Money at the time. And he signed Big Chris Crit, and Shy was like, yo, Crit don't have no homeboy. So you just go stand there.

[Host 3]

I'm like, he's feeling homeboy.

[Tech N9ne]

Am I the. Am I the best representation?

[Host 2]

That's funny, because I was there with J Rock, Kendrick. Yeah, mgk. We all went to go eat after this. You know what I'm saying? The whole tde, we all went to go eat with mgk. We all went to an Italian food spot after this. So I had every. I was there with everybody. You know what I'm saying?

[Tech N9ne]

Corday had no people, so.

[Host 2]

Damn.

[Tech N9ne]

And at that point, like, Shot Money was doing the Slow Bucks thing as well. So you got this T shirt on. Go plug it. So I just sat there like an idiot, trying to bop my Head right through ft.

[Host 2]

But anything is better than that see through faux hawk that I had.

[Host 3]

Yes.

[Host 2]

I'm saying I was holding on. You see that?

[Host 3]

Yeah.

[Host 2]

Go back to it, man. Let me see it again. Go back to the beginning of my verse. Real rock. You can really see it because my head is down. You just see straight. You can see my scalp.

[Host 3]

Yeah. The light was hitting it. Yeah, look at that. Yeah. Yeah.

[Host 2]

My people didn't say they like, nah, you look good, you know, but the.

[Host 3]

Baldy look, it's clean.

[Host 2]

Yeah, I'm glad my head didn't look stupid up under that, all that.

[Tech N9ne]

Listen, man.

[Host 2]

Yeah.

[Tech N9ne]

I think anything is better than H and M jeans, a white G shock, a Slow Bucks T shirt, and Air Max 97s. I was the epitome of that.

[Host 2]

The only, the only person, the only people that talk shit like, dad, you wore a polo shirt with a T9.

[Host 3]

The kids gotta kill you.

[Host 2]

My kid's like, dad, what the fuck?

[Tech N9ne]

I'm like, it was a nasty era in fashion.

[Host 2]

Yeah, man, it was cool, man. You know what I'm saying? I thought I was cool, man. You know what I'm saying? But people really love the rap.

[Host 3]

Oh, no.

[Host 2]

After this I turned that into a song. Who do I catch now? Okay, but I did three verses though. But after this, I wrote more of the song. You know what I'm saying?

[Host 3]

Yeah.

[Tech N9ne]

Nah. Like we brought this video up up at our live shows for everyone to clown me. But if you look at this cipher, this is. That's some legendary, like. That's why I don't mind bringing up to clown. I'm like, no, I was. I was in the background of history.

[Host 2]

Wasn't.

[Tech N9ne]

Look at him.

[Host 2]

Wasn't BLB in this one.

[Tech N9ne]

Yeah, it was Bob, mgk, Kendrick, you crit.

[Host 2]

I worked with all of them. I worked with all of them.

[Host 3]

That's fine.

[Host 2]

Yeah, Me and Big Crit got one. It's called My Kid. It's got Ceelos singing on the hook. Cut. Calhoun is on it. You know what I'm saying? Big Crit did a song for me.

[Host 4]

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[Host 3]

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[Host 2]

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[Host 2]

I'm talking about my next album. Okay, let me talk about my album coming up. 5816.

[Host 3]

What does 5816 represent?

[Host 2]

Okay, 5816 is where my mom when my mom married Abul Hassan Rasool Khalifa. She my Christian devout Christian mom Married a Muslim when I was 12 years old, he moved us to 5816 Forest.

[Host 3]

Okay?

[Host 2]

I'm sure he didn't know it was a blood neighborhood, okay? Hence my red pants, you know what I'm saying? Who the fuck wears red pants?

[Tech N9ne]

Assumed you were a fan of the cheese.

[Host 2]

Who fucking wears red pants, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. But anyway, yeah, 5816 Forest is where I met all. My rogue dog is where I went to school. True school, you know what I'm saying? And, you know. But the album, I call it my audio series, was 17 episodes about my life on 5816 forest. From age 12, when she married Abul Hassan Rasool Khalifa to age 17, where I thought he was being super hard on me. So I ran away from home on a Quest to become tech9, you know what I'm saying? And I never came back. And I became Tech9. It wasn't written in blood. I became Tech9 like a motherfucker, you know what I'm saying? But these songs are in chronological order from 12 all the way to 17, all the stories that happened in between. So people are. I put up the track list the other day that I wrote out, you know what I'm saying? And people like, are we gonna have Eminem on it? I'm like, how the. The fuck is Eminem gonna be on my Origin Stories album?

[Tech N9ne]

He wasn't on for.

[Host 2]

We gotta have Ronnie Radke on there from Falling in verse. Cause we tour, you know, saying, how the fuck is Ronnie Radke gonna be in my Origin Story? But this is the first. This is the first album I've ever done where it's all verses by me, okay? But I have hooks by other motherfuckers, you know what I'm saying? Lil Wayne got a hook on there for Yoda, you know what I'm saying? It made sense. That's my nigga, you know what I'm saying? I got Kevin Church Johnson on a song called this. I know. I got chemology on one called what I do. I got Jerry Robinson on one called Sacrifice, you know what I'm saying? It's just all my stories, though, so it's only people on the hooks. And I do a lot of the hooks as well, you know what I'm saying? So it's an origin story, man, you know what I mean?

[Tech N9ne]

Why now for the origin story?

[Host 2]

Well, I didn't have no fucking thoughts of doing it, but my homeboy that gave me my name in 88 black Walt, you know, he said he'd been free from prison for some years. We linked back up, and he say, tech, man, you know, as Tech9 fans, I'm gonna speak for all of them. We don't want to hear all them motherfucking collaborations. We listen to your verse, and we go forward. You know, if you're the last one, we go forward and hear your verse. I'm like, damn, man. He said, you need to do a whole album, just all you. And I'm like, that'll be boring as my. So I told Travis. The next day, I'm in Travis's office, my partner, I say, hey, Black. Walt was saying I need to do an album with no, you know, collaborations, just all me on the verses. And he said, he's right, Tech. So Walt hooked me up with a producer from Kansas City, but he resides in the Bay right now. His name is J. Peezy. I chose 16 beats from J. Peezy. I started writing the shit, and as I got on the third song, I was like, holy. I've never told these stories. I've never told these stories. Maybe I talked about some of them in interviews, but never rapped the shit in depth of how I wrote my first rhyme, you know what I'm saying? On the song called Lola. It was a girl named Lola Morris who I was beatboxing at the time for niggas, you know? She says, aaron, stop spitting on everybody and won't you write a rap? I'm like, okay. I went home and wrote eight bars, came back and killed everybody. She started my love of lyrics, always. That's what I made Lola stand for, love of lyrics, always.

[Tech N9ne]

What was that process like? I guess, unlocking some of those or revisiting some of those memories?

[Host 2]

I found. What's the word I'm looking for? I found resolve with my stepfather. All them years I didn't. I've been knowing this for a while, but in the songs, when I started writing the song, the punishment I had to say in the third verse how he was trying to make me a stronger man. I was a spoiled fucking brat at 12 when he married my mom. She did everything for me. Even though we didn't have much money, she did what If I needed to be in the talent show in the fourth grade to pop lock? I said, I want to dance to Scorpio by Grandmaster Flash. She got it for me, my nigga. She got me the gloves, the white gloves and the breaking suit, all that shit. She'll work for it and get me that shit. You know what I'm saying, so she did everything for me. And he was just trying to make me a stronger man and an entrepreneur, and I didn't know it, you know what I'm saying? So I found resolve with these songs, like. And when I wrote the Punishment, I sent it to my brother Hakeem Hassan, and I said, play it for Hasan, man. And he said the next day, he said, man, he was so happy, man. He said, tell Donnie I said, thank you. Don't forget to tell Donnie I said, thank you. Donnie is my nickname because, you know, my middle name is Dante is. You know what I'm saying? But tell Donnie thank you so much. I never came back. When I left home, I told my mom I was going to my Aunt Zita's for Thanksgiving holiday, you know what I'm saying? School's out, you know what I'm saying? And she's like, you need all those clothes in the trash bag to go to Zita's. And I'm like, yeah, she knew. She kind of had a tear in her eye. I kissed my mama. He was at work, went down the street. All my friends like, bye, Donnie. Bye, Donnie. Bye, Donnie. You know what I'm saying? I had my cousin pick me up and take me over Aunt Zita's. He called like, two nights later when I didn't come back home. Like, boy, if you don't get your ass home. I gave my. I gave the phone to my auntie. He ain't never coming back. Because my Christian family didn't understand the Muslim side that he was, you know, taking me to Juma. And, you know, I'm raised Christian, you know what I'm saying? My mom married a Muslim. Now I'm studying Islam, you know what I'm saying? So I'm becoming a clusterfuck on accident.

[Host 3]

It.

[Host 2]

But in a great way. That. That camera light just went off. What that mean?

[Host 3]

That mean probably switched to another.

[Tech N9ne]

Yeah, she switched.

[Host 3]

That light just went off. That mean.

[Host 2]

Cuz I'm. Cuz I'm. Cuz I'm long winded. Yeah, like, we got to get another.

[Tech N9ne]

You think you could only do this type of album at this age with the reflecting?

[Host 2]

I mean, I could have done it back then because the stories were there.

[Tech N9ne]

Same. Yeah, but. Yeah, but different perspective, maybe.

[Host 2]

Like Black Walt saying that I was supposed to do one with me on all the verses. I didn't agree.

[Tech N9ne]

Yeah.

[Host 2]

Until I got into this and I started getting into the stories and the resolve with my stepfather and all that kind of shit, man. You know, I Never came back home. That probably him up, you know. So playing him the punishment, my brother. Playing him the punishment, man, really touched me, man. I'm like, I'm fucking glad I did this fucking record, man. You know what I'm saying? Like, I talked shit about it at the beginning. Black Walt was right, you know what I'm saying? So the fans that are expecting choppy ass. I'm rapping like a motherfucker. Don't get me wrong.

[Host 3]

This ain't that.

[Host 2]

I'm rapping like a motherfucker.

[Host 3]

Yeah.

[Host 2]

I can't help it. I'm a drummer, you know what I'm saying? I can't help it. If they're expecting anything other than gangsta shit. I'm sorry. Because that's when my. That's where I started.

[Host 3]

Right, Right.

[Host 2]

It's gangsta shit. You know, if you like the con before the storm and you bought it from seventh Heaven or whatever, you're gonna get that. And the Midwest Mob beats, that's kind of mixed with the bay back then. E40ish, you know, kind of like Mr. Flamboyant or something. You. You'll get where we going. We took it all the way back. I'm on the COVID with a red candy striped troop jacket on True. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, with J's. Red and white J's. With my Casey hat flipped up like we used to wear them by, like the D boys used to wear. I couldn't afford it back then, so I put it on my cover. That's how I wanted to dress. I wanted to dress like the niggas out there.

[Host 3]

Yeah.

[Tech N9ne]

Yeah.

[Host 2]

I couldn't afford it, though. My stepfather wasn't having it. No, you're going to wear Florshams and slacks and tie to school every day.

[Tech N9ne]

I'm like, yeah, and you gotta hide the hairline, too.

[Host 2]

What you say?

[Tech N9ne]

You gotta hide the hairline, too.

[Host 2]

No, not then. Got a lot of hair. See it? I had to.

[Tech N9ne]

I had the kid.

[Host 2]

I had the kid. Plate box with the Kwame Street. Come on, baby. Come on, baby. All my went to go dance for MC Hammer Zester.

[Tech N9ne]

Yeah.

[Host 2]

You know, Richard White Bear, you know what I'm saying? All these went to go dance for Hammer.

[Host 3]

Yeah.

[Host 2]

Now I'm under them, like Imperial Prep, like, trying to learn and do the pop shake and all that. All that Hammer do. Oh, that's Kansas City.

[Host 3]

Yeah.

[Host 2]

I started writing on my rhymes at the same time. Like, nah, I ain't about to go down there and audition. I ain't as good as you? Yeah, I'm good at dancing. I mean, I'm in contest and everything. Ever since I was in fourth grade, I'm in contests. I'm in the auditorium at middle school at Bingham, you know what I'm saying? I wasn't rapping, I was dancing. Ninth grade, I'm dancing on stage.

[Host 3]

Did you have a chance to connect with another Kansas City legend, Conductor yet?

[Host 2]

Conductor? We've been talking. Yeah, Conductor Williams. Holy fuck. Yeah, the shit he do for Griselda. What he did for Griselda, man. Man, he digs in the crates like a motherfucker. In a different way, though.

[Host 3]

Yeah, yeah.

[Tech N9ne]

No, the way he flip samples is different than I've seen anywhere.

[Host 2]

Beautiful. I can't wait to see what we could do. What's that song that Freddie Gibbs did with Al Kimmer's? Microphone check, check. 1, 2, 1, check.

[Tech N9ne]

Alfredo.

[Host 2]

Create a Mecca. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? It's a song on there called God Is the Greatest or something like that. It's like Sabana la. Microphone check.

[Tech N9ne]

I don't know this on. I don't know if that's.

[Host 2]

That is sinister.

[Host 3]

Yeah, I know that's some.

[Host 2]

I would want to do some. I need to do some sinister with Conductor. Yeah, I called Freddie Gibbs on that. I'm like, yeah, you should have called me for that one.

[Host 3]

HE LAUGH Freddy is a problem.

[Host 2]

God damn it.

[Host 3]

Yeah, Freddy.

[Host 2]

Cuz, you know, he toured with me too. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Tech N9ne]

I mean, we were talking about some of the younger artists. I feel like I've watched interviews where some of the young legends now. You gave them their first tour.

[Host 2]

Yeah.

[Tech N9ne]

How. How do you even pick that type of talent to bring on tour with? One of Kendrick's first tour was. Was yours.

[Host 1]

No.

[Host 2]

Yeah, yeah, his first tour.

[Tech N9ne]

Like, how does that even. Yeah, yeah. How do you pick those type of artists?

[Host 2]

Well, Kendrick was a result of J Rock's cousin MJ getting murdered on our tour. That's why we hadn't done a show in Reno for a long time, man. You know what I'm saying? And the up thing about it is MJ was a Crip, but he had on a red J Rock shirt because he's his hype man, you know what I'm saying? And late night, we partying with, you know, on the bus. They on their bus. I'm on my bus partying. 3:00 clock in the morning, he want to get off and call his wife, you know what I'm saying? Away from all the. Some from the liquor store, came over there, saw that red shirt they had on blue shirts. They said that cut. Calhoun told us this story. He said, one of them said, you ready? To the other ones? And they said, yeah, they try to square up with MJ just for nothing, you know what I'm saying? The colors, you know? Calhoun came around off the bus like, y' all trying to jump on my homeboy. What's up? They just start shooting. Hit MJ all down here, you know what I'm saying? He was cool. I talked to him the next day. I just wanna celebrate. Real don't die, you know, I'm singing to him, he's laughing, he's like, yeah, we gotta redo that tech when I get out, I'm like, yeah, blood clots killed him. Yeah. Day later or something like that.

[Tech N9ne]

Damn.

[Host 2]

We was up. So Kendrick had to come out to finish the tour with J Rock, doing Money Trees and all that. And that's when he gave me the section 80, you know what I'm saying? I got him on all sixes and sevens, I think. I don't know. I got him on one of my albums. We did a song called I Love Music with my family. Marcus Yates. Nobody knew who he was then. Good Kid Mad City came out. Then we did Fragile Boom, you know, did you.

[Tech N9ne]

Did you.

[Host 2]

Rogers Platinum, by the way, too.

[Host 3]

I mean, just.

[Host 2]

Yes. Yes.

[Host 3]

Listen, man, you ain't got a front, you ain't got a stunt on me, baby. Listen, I get it.

[Tech N9ne]

We're aware of your catalog, but talk your. I'm glad you're saying that.

[Host 3]

No, you don't.

[Tech N9ne]

I don't think people realize.

[Host 3]

They don't. A lot of people don't know, but yeah.

[Tech N9ne]

Did you.

[Host 3]

Did you see this? Like this for Kendrick early, Like, with his skill.

[Host 2]

I saw that he had something special.

[Host 3]

Yeah.

[Host 2]

Yeah. That's why I got him on I Love music. You know what I'm saying? I saw he had something special. I remember J Rock playing me some black hippie on the bus before. You know, MJ was still alive. It was early on the tour, and I'm like, I saw. I heard this nigga, like, Sam Zamin, real crippy. I'm like, who's rapping like that? He said, that's K Dot. My. That's K Dot. I was already asking who he was.

[Tech N9ne]

I mean, a lot of. I feel like. Like, OD definitely mirrored some of your style and tone.

[Host 3]

Who?

[Tech N9ne]

Kendrick's first? Well, not his first mixtape, but his second mixtape. Overly dedicated. Oh, that's very it's very techish on that.

[Host 2]

I don't know, man. I don't want to take credit for nothing that man does. Because a lot of people, they always say, like, nardwar said, thank you, Tech 9. Right?

[Tech N9ne]

I'm like, ah, oh, see, I didn't even know that.

[Host 2]

You know what I'm saying?

[Tech N9ne]

Oh, is that like a thing?

[Host 2]

Because it takes away from what he's done. It takes away everything that he did with Black Hippie and what he was building in LA before he got with me. And he happened to meet Dr. Dre on my tour. So the story is Tech9 helped you meet Dr. Dre. No, nigga. Dr. Dre was probably listening to Pussy and Patron make you feel.

[Tech N9ne]

No, for sure.

[Host 2]

That's why I listen to all that shit, blood. You know what I'm saying? So it's like when they say, thank you, tech9, and without tech9, and he's like, yeah, thank you, tech9. He's a real nigga, man. You know what I'm saying? Always come to Kansas City and give me love on stage. Me and Chris Calico, and we tell them. Tell people. We showed them how to be a performer and all that kind of. Now this can't be touched. You know what I'm saying? So it's like. I don't like when people say that he took something from me. You can say that.

[Tech N9ne]

No, but mind you, I didn't even know this was a narrative. I just.

[Host 2]

Yeah, it's a narrative.

[Tech N9ne]

Overly Dedicated is one of my favorite from the blog era.

[Host 2]

One of my favorite mixtapes.

[Tech N9ne]

But I always. I was like. He's like. He's got this weird. It's like Tech9 Wayne, sort of. And I was trying to figure out who it is.

[Host 2]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Tech N9ne]

But I. I didn't know that was really a thing.

[Host 2]

Yeah, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. People say it and I'm like, don't take away that brother Shine.

[Tech N9ne]

And I know for a fact that Dre was.

[Host 2]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So, yeah, man. A lot of people would say those similarities, but he's his own monster, you know what I'm saying? And I'm my own monster. Definitely.

[Host 3]

Oh, absolutely. Let's talk about these tours that Tech is currently on. How many we got? Oh, let's go down the list.

[Host 2]

I start with Falling in Reverse, early August.

[Host 3]

Okay.

[Host 2]

Only do 13 shows.

[Host 3]

Only 13 with them. Yes.

[Host 2]

You know what I'm saying?

[Host 3]

That's a very low slaughter intact.

[Host 2]

It's Falling Reverse Slaughter to Prevail. And some more rock metal Acts, you know what I'm saying? We kill that scene as well, you know what I'm saying? There's no barriers when it come to me. N. I got a song with Gary Clark Jr. On some blue. Right. You know what I'm saying? That's why my next record is going to be called Decorated, because I'm a decorated mc, you know what I'm saying? From all genres, you know what I'm saying?

[Host 3]

Absolutely.

[Host 2]

I'm talking about Tupac, Ice Cube, MC Ren, you know what I'm saying? These all people I work with. Spice One, E40.

[Host 3]

Yeah.

[Host 2]

And it just keeps going, you know what I'm saying? Whiskey Wayne Eminem, Kendrick Lamar.

[Host 3]

Yeah, yeah.

[Host 2]

J Rock. Yeah, I know I'm forgetting somebody, you know. But on the metal side is Slipknot and. Yeah, Put Them over down and Corn.

[Host 3]

Yeah, just some. You may have heard of the Doors.

[Host 2]

You know, I did a song with the remaining members of the Doors.

[Host 3]

Just some.

[Tech N9ne]

Just some garage band on the R and B tip.

[Host 2]

I got a weed song with Boys the Man.

[Host 3]

Yeah.

[Host 2]

Buddha.

[Host 3]

Yeah.

[Host 2]

Me and Marsha Ambrosias got anywhere.

[Tech N9ne]

He was on the beat. Terry Lewisy Jones.

[Host 2]

Give me Damn Terry Lewis.

[Host 3]

Yeah.

[Host 2]

I'm Decorated as.

[Host 3]

Yeah.

[Host 2]

You know what I'm saying?

[Host 3]

Absolutely.

[Host 2]

So I'm saying I can do the metal tour. I remember when I came to LA to open up for Kanye. Nipsey was still alive. I met Joy Bettaz backstage. Nipsey was on stage when I was about. I went on right after Nipsey, you know what I'm saying? It was cool backstage, you know what I'm saying? The next day, I had to fly to Mexico City to perform at Knotfest with Slipknot, you know what I'm saying? This is what I created for myself by breaking down barriers. Because I feel like men created barriers with culture. It happens. Black folks listen to this. White folks listen to that. But I always felt like beautiful music is beautiful music. You can't tell me you don't like Toto. My poor G porgy Pudding Pop. Not just the urban sounding, right? I'm talking about Roseanne. Roseanne, all that. Hold the line, you know what I'm saying? It's just beautiful music to me is beautiful music. And I fuse all that shit together and it shows in my discography, you know what I'm saying? So that's why I'm able to do Falling in Reverse with Slaughter to prevail and then go on with. After that. I go right into the tour with Bone Thugs in Harmony and Three 6 Mafia and DJ Quick.

[Tech N9ne]

How do you prepare for those different type of tours? Because the audience may be different off the boundaries that you're talking about. Do you approach it differently?

[Host 2]

I do Tech 9. I got one show I just put together. I just did it. I just did it. I just tried it out on Saturday. I've headlined Boulevardia at home, you know what I'm saying? Boulevard Brewing Company, they have this festival every year. This is the 10th, 10 year anniversary. They wanted me to, you know, do it, try this show out. Oh man, it's so dope. I'm gonna do the same show. It's just I have to cut it down for the. It's an hour and 25 maybe. What I did what I did. So it's probably like an hour and 30 with talking or more. Iron 40. It's a lot of time on stage to be tech 9. Yeah, but I have the discography to fill it. And it's never. You're never. Because I'm. I'm three during the whole show. I'm the king. I come out to the king, you know what I'm saying? I start with no reason, you know. Oh, damn. I'm telling people. I start with no reason, you know what I'm saying? The song that MGK and Eminem fell out on, you know what I'm saying? Saying, and he's a mental giant, you know, King, you know what I'm saying? Worldwide Choppers, all the choppers together, all kind of. I'm doing all that on the metal tour and on the. I got my band with me. So all this sounds live as you know. I mean, but I do, I always. I've been doing Hood Go crazy at Not Fest. My. Yeah, I'm me, right? I can't. I have songs that have the rock energy, you know, straight out the gate. With System of A Down, I'm a Serge Tonkian, you know, saying, you're a liar. Super rock influenced, but riot maker and Planet Rock and Hood go crazy and everybody but me, man. These are, these are, these are. These are urban songs, man, on metal tours. And they go up when I get to the G Zone. Because I'm the king, the clown of the G. I come out as the king, the clown. I got this fucking $9,000 mask with going fucking nose. It goes back to my song the Red Nose. The industry treat me like I got a red nose. Nobody want to let me in. They don't invite me to BET Awards, none of that shit. MT Award. They don't invite Me, you know what I'm saying? It's cool. So I always felt like I had a red nose. I got that motherfucking red nose on for the clown. Then I come out as the G and do all the motherfucking hits, you know what I'm saying? On these shows. I'm doing it on the Bone tour. I'm doing it on the Metal tour, and I just did it on Saturday.

[Host 3]

Would you like to see more of us, like from hip hop, more rappers, like go into that world of rock and do those festivals and do those.

[Host 2]

Shows if it fits. You can't just front.

[Host 3]

Yeah.

[Host 2]

You know what I'm saying? Know my pedigree. They know that I've been doing that shit since the early beginnings of the.

[Tech N9ne]

And you can move tickets.

[Host 3]

Yeah.

[Host 2]

Yes.

[Host 3]

Yeah.

[Tech N9ne]

That's the other part.

[Host 2]

Yeah. Yes, yes, yes.

[Tech N9ne]

That's the main shit. When they be all right. We know he can.

[Host 3]

This amount of people you see said they call tech. Like, listen tickets. What Selling call tech. I caught that Bar tickets ain't moving call tech.

[Host 2]

Yeah, you said that.

[Host 3]

No, no, you said it. I caught it.

[Host 2]

That's.

[Tech N9ne]

I'm even. What was the. That early Wuang tour? What rock group was it? I forgot who it was that. That. That they went on tour with. That was like the first real rock, you know.

[Host 2]

Ain't that. Wasn't that system over now? The shame on a run game ass up.

[Tech N9ne]

But I mean your ass up. That was cuz Wuang moved ticket. They had that cult fan bas.

[Host 2]

Like when you try to go on not fest as well, you know, not.

[Tech N9ne]

Every rapper do that done it.

[Host 2]

You know what I'm saying? Ice T still does it with Body Count.

[Tech N9ne]

It's. But it's few and far in between with the rock and rap.

[Host 2]

I know it's.

[Tech N9ne]

It's tough.

[Host 2]

I know, but them are rapping. Cory Taylor rapping on. You know what I'm saying? Ronnie Racky rapping his ass off. Kim Dracula rapping his ass off.

[Host 3]

That's why when people were kind of like when Jay did the. With Linkin park when they did that whole thing, people were kind of like, what is that? I was like, bro, people have been.

[Tech N9ne]

Pop version of it.

[Host 3]

Yeah, but the fact that Jay stepped into that world, people wasn't expecting that for sure. You know what I mean? Like, yo, him and Linkin park, people was like, what is he doing? Like he trying to go too. And it's like, no, but like you said, beautiful music.

[Host 2]

Beautiful music should be beautiful music. But people will put, you know, they will put a barrier between us, you know, and say, nah, you go over there, nigga, you won't be able to come back over here. OG Muggs said you're gonna be the first rapper to cross over to black folks.

[Tech N9ne]

Hilarious. You know what I'm saying?

[Host 2]

You remember he said that shit? Yeah, yeah, I did.

[Host 3]

Talking about Tech nine streets from the Streets. Like, what we talking about here?

[Host 2]

That's what I'm saying. But the energy of Einstein and the energy of Psycho Bitch and the energy of all those early songs. Motherfuckers like, damn, this kind of got a loud energy. As opposed to, have you ever met a nigga who was pie sprung? It's a lot of slinky niggas where I come from. There's another missile catcher just like him. His name is Mitchell Bay. Mitchell Bay. If a Mitch is in your Mitch, you better check one. That shit blew up in Kansas City, you know what I'm saying? Or let's get fucked Up. Let's get high, let's get drunk. Let's get fucked up. I got that weed, that ain't no punk. With me and the Rogue Dogs. That's that urban shit that niggas was really taken to. But I was doing Einstein and Psycho Bitch and my own hell the same time I was doing Meg. That ass hop don't stop Down South Yonks make Planet Rock. Midwest. Too much ass in one room make that ass hop. Yeah, playing a rock blew the fuck up. Yeah, but I'm doing this crazy shit at the same time. Coming from my nuthouse crew, I brought that energy over here too, with the urban. You know, I was doing that shit early on, man. It's just all of it was mixed together. But our people be like, nah, I'm ain't doing that shit for the white folks.

[Host 3]

Yeah, yeah.

[Host 2]

Nah, nigga, I'm doing what I know, what I feel. I feel real music, period. I'm not trying to pander to white. I didn't know what kind of fans I was gonna have. I started in the hood. The hood embraced me right when they saw Angelic come out with me as the angel. And on the back, I got the devil suit on. I was trying to tell I want a devil worshiper. I was trying to tell in Angelic. You see the angel? He's on. On, you know, on the COVID of Angelic. Can you pull it up, you know, say the color cover of Angelic. I'm on the front of that like they got nails in my head. I'm nailed to the Cross for real, you know what I'm saying? I got the stake in my neck as an angel because I was trying to tell a story of a fallen angel, which was me. I was raised in the church as a Christian. My mom married a Muslim. I studied Islam. I started reading other religions because all this shit was damn near sounding alike, you know what I'm saying? When reading the Quran or, you know, different things. But, you know, I started getting into reading about Confucianism and Shintoism and Taoism and Judaism and Buddhism and, you know, Dianetics, whatever it is, you know what I'm saying? Trying to find it. So the story was about an angel trying to find its way and then falling into fame and liquor and you. It's a picture on there where I'm falling through, like, a hole of demons. And when I land in that, it's naked demon titties out. With liquor and all that kind of titties out.

[Host 3]

It's always deep.

[Host 2]

That's what you find on this path as an angel. Come on, man. I got.

[Tech N9ne]

When you toile.

[Host 3]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Host 2]

I got an angel on me. My mama called me angel baby. You know, angels on me forever. You know what I'm saying? So I know this about myself. I'm raising in Christ. So they tell me, if you accept all that shit, Dante, you gonna go to hell. So I said, if you accept the liquor and the drugs and the bitches, the result is the beast. Beast. So at the time when we were doing the album cover, screaming Mad George, he was an artist that does all the crazy shit. He said, hey, tech, I did Tales from the Hood, the devil suit. I created it. I have that. Would you want to be the beast in that? I'm like, fuck, yeah. We got the spider legs and shit. So I'm on the back, like, as the beast, not a devil worshiper. I'm just telling them, this is what you get.

[Tech N9ne]

Yeah.

[Host 2]

Motherfucker said, fuck that shit.

[Host 3]

Yeah. You know, we don't understand. You know, people, they not picking up on all of that.

[Host 2]

And then when you turn on the record, the first thing you hear is one for the devil on Tormented. They didn't hear two for My God after that, right? Father, please forgive me while I rock this bra. Tormented, I've been loving coochie since it was invented. Ask me, does it get me? Yes, it does. Feels lovely. I'm talking nigga shit on that, but rock and roll, nigga.

[Host 3]

Yeah, right, right.

[Host 2]

I don't want to ever let it go. Beat it down like a Riddick, Bow.

[Host 3]

Yeah.

[Host 2]

We can do it faster, even slow.

[Host 3]

Yeah, yeah.

[Host 2]

Up on the bed, up on the floor, yeah coochie90 on my mind, yeah Hit it from front or from behind I'm horny, baby don't you waste my time Psycho Alpha Skeptack 9 this is me talking about my rage with, yeah.

[Host 3]

But, you know, stop that one for the devil, we stop, right?

[Host 2]

They stopped that one for the devil. They stopped that one for the devil.

[Tech N9ne]

That's much ahead of his time.

[Host 2]

What about two for my God? I didn't say one for my devil. I said one for the devil. Two for my God. Meaning I'm more good, Right, Right.

[Tech N9ne]

Stops right there with when you can understand Playboi Carti. That's the shit he on.

[Host 3]

Like, oh, yeah.

[Tech N9ne]

Even the entire aesthetic.

[Host 2]

Did you hear what he said? He said, technology is the pioneer of what I'm doing right now. He's not talking about music. He's talking about imagery.

[Host 3]

Absolutely.

[Host 2]

You know what I'm saying?

[Host 3]

Absolutely.

[Host 2]

Yeah.

[Host 3]

58, 16. June 27th.

[Host 2]

June 27th.

[Host 3]

Man, Tech, I got to catch you on one of these tours, man. Thuggish Ruggish Mafia. I mean, seeing you, I. Bone Thugs N Harmony, one of my favorite group. 3, 6 as well. Tech. One of my favorites. Like, just seeing you perform, your energy.

[Host 2]

I think we might be coming here, man. I gotta look at the dates.

[Host 3]

Well, if y' all coming to New York, I'm definitely.

[Tech N9ne]

Oh, hell yeah.

[Host 3]

The last time I saw you was when you had Slaughterhouse on tour with you. That was that long ago. So I gotta see Tech.

[Host 2]

Damn, that was a minute.

[Host 3]

Yeah, I gotta see Tech now. I gotta catch you whiz. Any New York on there? Jersey Home, Dell. New Jersey.

[Tech N9ne]

Oh, yes. That's a quick drive.

[Host 3]

June 6th.

[Tech N9ne]

Hour some change.

[Host 3]

Shit can be then. I ain't gonna lie. Virginia beach might be cool, though. Go down to va. Yeah, man.

[Tech N9ne]

Good chick out there.

[Host 3]

No, that's Virginia, though. That's.

[Tech N9ne]

You know, you got your island for some.

[Host 3]

I love Charlotte. Love Charlotte.

[Host 2]

They used to have Wet Willies around the corner from my venue when I used to drink. I used to love that. Like, we going to Charlotte. Wet Willies. Let's.

[Host 3]

Yeah, let's stay over there.

[Tech N9ne]

Queens for one day. And they shut it down.

[Host 3]

Yeah, gotta shut down. Gotta shut down.

[Host 2]

What did you say?

[Tech N9ne]

They opened a Wet Willies in Queens for one day.

[Host 2]

Oh, it.

[Tech N9ne]

And the Bloods shut that down.

[Host 2]

Of course.

[Tech N9ne]

It's so you could go and see the YouTube video that went viral.

[Host 4]

Really?

[Tech N9ne]

Yes. We was like, yo, we gotta Wet Willys now.

[Host 3]

It's over.

[Tech N9ne]

Grand opening, grand closing.

[Host 2]

Wet Willys is just like Fat Tuesdays.

[Host 3]

Yeah, same exact. 5816 June 27th. 5816. 4. Excuse me, Tech.

[Host 2]

Yes, sir.

[Host 3]

June 27th. I'm looking forward to catching you on one of these shows, on one of these tours, because we got to give you your flowers, man. To be doing what you have doing. As long as you've been doing it at the level you've been doing it moving the tickets, totally. That you've been moving. Yes, sir. We gotta salute you any chance we get. So I'm definitely catching. I'm definitely catching.

[Host 2]

Honored to be on your show, man. Thank you.

[Host 3]

Honor to have you here, Tech. This is like. I mean, again, you thought I was younger than I am.

[Host 2]

Is Joe Budden gonna talk to me because I'm on this?

[Host 3]

I don't care about that.

[Tech N9ne]

Maybe we ain't true.

[Host 2]

Let you know. That's my. You know what I'm saying? On tour.

[Host 3]

Yeah, yeah. No, I get it. I was Slaughterhouse. I was there for that during that time.

[Tech N9ne]

Yeah. Tell him you took him on tour.

[Host 2]

Say that again.

[Host 3]

Yeah, I did.

[Host 2]

I did. I did. I did. I did this joke on the tour. I got to say this before we pull up at the venue. He's always out there smoking a cigarette. I'm about to go to the bathroom in the venue. He said, so you go make the bitches show with the titties or what, nigga? Because I got a song called Ooh, Ariola. Ooh. He's like, so you're gonna make the show? Their titties are what?

[Tech N9ne]

Yeah, I'll be side stage for that one.

[Host 2]

You know I'm gonna make the what?

[Tech N9ne]

The.

[Host 3]

Titties? Absolutely. 5816. Yo, Tech, I'm looking forward to this album. The origin story, as you say it, is so I get to kind of hear, you know, the beginning of Tech9 and how you became the legend.

[Host 2]

I'm saying, I can't wait for y' all to hear it, man. It's beautiful.

[Host 3]

No, I'm checking it out. I'm checking it out.

[Host 2]

If you don't see, like, Midwest Mob music, you're gonna be like, I don't know.

[Host 3]

No, no, listen.

[Tech N9ne]

I feel like Taylor Swift should have checked, updated.

[Host 2]

The beats are updated, but it still feels like that 90s, okay? You know what I'm saying? It's beautiful. JPZ did a wonderful job, man.

[Host 3]

Dope.

[Tech N9ne]

I love that.

[Host 3]

Yeah, Definitely looking forward for that one, Taylor.

[Tech N9ne]

You owe My guy a feature. You can't be part of the Kansas City community and not give tech. Taylor Swift.

[Host 2]

Oh, Taylor Swift.

[Tech N9ne]

I just feel like they got to check in with you. Yeah, for sure.

[Host 2]

Everybody, like, you need to do a Red Kingdom remix with Taylor. I'm like, he's not from Kansas City. He just in love with a who's.

[Tech N9ne]

Also not from there. Right, right, right, right.

[Host 2]

Ain't they from the east coast or something?

[Tech N9ne]

From Ohio.

[Host 2]

Okay.

[Tech N9ne]

Oh, yeah. I think Travis from Cleveland, Right? Yeah.

[Host 2]

Yeah.

[Tech N9ne]

Either way, Taylor, you got to check in with tech.

[Host 3]

Definitely got to check in with tech.

[Host 2]

That's funny. That's funny.

[Host 3]

That's tech. N. I'm that he's just ginger it. Peace.

[Host 2]

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[Host 3]

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[Host 2]

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[Host 4]

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[Host 1]

Wait, this has bubble jets.

[Tech N9ne]

Okay, shop great deals.

[Host 4]

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[Tech N9ne]

Made from Plants and sizzles on a grill.

[Host 2]

Impossible.

[Tech N9ne]

Feels virtuous and tastes reckless.

[Host 2]

Impossible.

[Tech N9ne]

Easy to pick up and hard to put down.

[Host 2]

Impossible.

[Tech N9ne]

Yeah it is. Burgers, hot dogs and chicken. Everything you want from meat. Without the stuff you don't all flavor. No trade offs.

[Host 1]

It's impossible.

[Tech N9ne]

Purchase impossible products at your local grocery store today.

[Host 1]

This is an I Heart podcast.