Episode 387 | What Did We Miss?

Summary

Podcast Summary: New Rory & MAL - Episode 387 | What Did We Miss?

Release Date: July 8, 2025
Hosts: Rory, Mal, and Damaris
Description: New stories, new laughs, new random hot takes that no one asked for...

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1. Degree Deodorant Formula Reversion [00:37 - 01:39]

The episode kicks off with Mal discussing a significant move by Degree deodorant.
Mal [00:37]: "Degree changed the formula for their Cool Rush deodorant. Their fans rebelled and wanted the old scent back. And Degree listened."

Highlighting the consumer-driven decision, Degree reverted to the original Cool Rush scent after acknowledging the misstep, making it available again in major retailers for under $4.

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2. Beverage Showdown: Pink Lemonade vs. Regular Lemonade [03:06 - 09:17]

A spirited debate ensues between Rory and Damaris over whether pink lemonade deserves its own category separate from regular lemonade.

Damaris [03:15]: "Pink lemonade tastes different than lemonade, and no one is going to ever convince me otherwise."

Rory [03:19]: "They put a little different type of corn syrup in it, but it's not a flavor."

Damaris [03:25]: "It's definitely its own flavor."

The discussion delves into the additives that differentiate pink lemonade, with Damaris firmly believing in its distinctiveness. They explore various flavored lemonades, including cranberry and raspberry, ultimately concluding with personal preferences and nostalgic memories of Ocean Spray commercials.

Rory [05:22]: "I don't think there's such a thing as South Detroit."

They reminisce about childhood perceptions of cranberry ponds and express skepticism about the realism of certain commercials, blending humor with their opinions on beverage formulations.

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3. Music Industry Insights: Drake's "What Did I Miss?" and Rap Battles [12:47 - 27:57]

The hosts shift the conversation to the music scene, focusing on Drake's latest release, "What Did I Miss?" and its implications in the ongoing rap battles.

Damaris [13:13]: "What's funny is I remember when you tweeted that and I started looking through the comments wondering what you missed."

They dissect whether J. Cole's involvement is crucial for the song's success, debating the nature of rap-centric tracks reaching number one on Billboard charts. The conversation touches on the influence of collaborations and whether certain rap songs, despite their aggressive style, achieve mainstream success.

Mal [15:02]: "News flash, worry it's never what Drake does for the rest of his life."

The trio evaluates the potential legacy of Drake's collaboration with J. Cole, comparing it to historical rap hits and discussing the criteria that make a rap song a Billboard favorite.

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4. Current Events: Diddy's Trial and Public Reactions [52:03 - 57:26]

Transitioning to recent legal developments, the hosts discuss the high-profile trial of Sean "Diddy" Combs.

Mal [52:03]: "He was found guilty on two counts of transportation, prostitution, and was found not guilty on more serious charges like RICO with racketeering, conspiracy, and sex trafficking."

They analyze the court's decision to deny bond based on evidence and Cassie's video testimony, contemplating the broader implications for victims and the justice system. The conversation also criticizes media representations and investigative approaches surrounding the case.

Damaris [55:40]: "Looking over a lot of these things, because while this was all going on, Rory, we spoke about it. I didn't really pay any attention to the trial as it was happening..."

The hosts express frustration over misinformation and the challenges victims face in seeking justice, emphasizing the need for accurate media coverage and support for those affected.

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5. Relationship Dynamics: Handling Compliments and Dating Advice [75:17 - 111:00]

A substantial portion of the episode is dedicated to relationship advice, focusing on how to accept compliments from significant others.

Damaris [75:22]: "Mall, I'm feeling some type of way because that's usually what girls do. They flirt, that means y'all horny."

Rory [77:54]: "Like, how many movies have we seen?"

The hosts share personal anecdotes and strategies for responding to compliments, aiming to help listeners navigate romantic interactions more effectively. They discuss the balance between genuine appreciation and overcompensation, offering tips on maintaining authenticity in relationships.

Mal [78:25]: "But you're telling him to stop, that's the problem."

They also touch upon the impact of social media on romantic relationships, advising against relying solely on digital interactions and emphasizing the importance of in-person connections.

Damaris [105:19]: "I would love something for the crib is always important. Maybe a new lock because I locked myself out..."

The conversation extends to gift-giving, exploring what men and women appreciate in gifts and how to select meaningful presents that enhance shared spaces and personal lives.

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6. Final Thoughts and Wrap-Up

As the episode nears its end, the hosts reflect on the varied topics discussed, from consumer products and nostalgic debates to current legal cases and personal relationships. They maintain a blend of humor and insightful commentary, aiming to engage and inform their audience through relatable conversations and candid exchanges.

Mal [111:13]: "That's how you learn to run the game, Damaris."

The episode concludes with light-hearted banter and a reminder of upcoming topics, leaving listeners anticipating future discussions.

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps

• Mal [00:37]: "Degree changed the formula for their Cool Rush deodorant. Their fans rebelled and wanted the old scent back."

• Damaris [03:15]: "Pink lemonade tastes different than lemonade, and no one is going to ever convince me otherwise."

• Damaris [13:13]: "What's funny is I remember when you tweeted that and I started looking through the comments wondering what you missed."

• Mal [15:02]: "News flash, worry it's never what Drake does for the rest of his life."

• Mal [52:03]: "He was found guilty on two counts of transportation, prostitution, and was found not guilty on more serious charges like RICO with racketeering, conspiracy, and sex trafficking."

• Damaris [55:40]: "Looking over a lot of these things, because while this was all going on, Rory, we spoke about it. I didn't really pay any attention to the trial as it was happening..."

• Damaris [75:22]: "Mall, I'm feeling some type of way because that's usually what girls do. They flirt, that means y'all horny."

• Damaris [105:19]: "I would love something for the crib is always important. Maybe a new lock because I locked myself out..."

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This episode of New Rory & MAL offers a dynamic blend of entertainment, personal insights, and topical discussions, ensuring listeners are both amused and informed. Whether debating the nuances of a beverage or dissecting the complexities of the music industry and personal relationships, the hosts provide a comprehensive and engaging listening experience.

Transcript

[Rory]

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[Mal]

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[Mal]

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[Damaris]

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[Mal]

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[Damaris]

Oh, and then we have a bunch of merch. Like, merch is still popping.

[Mal]

Merch is always popping. Yeah, well, our merch is always.

[Damaris]

Well, yeah, there's. I've seen some questionable merch with. With certain people.

[Mal]

You ain't got to get into that.

[Damaris]

But our new line for 2025 is out. We have some more merch coming very soon as well.

[Mal]

Absolutely.

[Damaris]

So, yeah, go get your merch. We are back. Happy top of the week. Fresh off of Red Eyed. Locking myself out of my house. I'm in a very delusional mind state right now.

[Mal]

Off.

[Damaris]

No sleep this weekend. But I'm in a great fucking mood. I'm happy to see everybody. So good evening, good afternoon, depending on.

[Mal]

Where you are, Good morning, depending on.

[Damaris]

Where you are, everything. I was in a good mood, and then Damaris informed me that pink lemonade is just lemonade. That's pink. And I think that's a lie.

[Rory]

Stupid.

[Damaris]

Pink lemonade tastes different than lemonade, and no one is going to ever convince me otherwise.

[Rory]

Yeah, they put a little different type of corn syrup in it, but it's not. Like. It's not a flavor.

[Damaris]

It's a. It's a. It's definitely its own flavor.

[Rory]

This. This conversation stem from peach. So excitedly asking me, hey, Damaris, what's your favorite flavor of, like, anything? Like, when it comes to candy or juice or anything, I'm like, it's watermelon. He goes, mine is pink lemonade. And I'm like, well, pink lemonade isn't a flavor. Like, depending on, like, what. What flavor is the pink strawberry lemonade?

[Mal]

Sure.

[Rory]

Cranberry lemonade, sure. But pink lemonade is not a.

[Damaris]

But even Wikipedia, like, I honestly don't care what the facts are, because I'm. I'm. You're never going to change my mind on this. But it does say pink lemonade is created by adding additional fruit juices, flavors, and food coloring to the recipe. So it's a.

[Mal]

It's a.

[Damaris]

It's a different drink.

[Mal]

That's the chemical to trip your brain.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Into thinking that. Oh, it works. Something in there. Yeah.

[Damaris]

It's a great trick because I think lemonade is. It's probably top five for me when it comes to juices.

[Rory]

Want a little bit better top five?

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Where's.

[Damaris]

I love pink lemonade.

[Mal]

Why not strawberry lemonade?

[Damaris]

I like raspberry lemonade way better than strawberry. I think raspberry lemonade is probably the best lemonade. That struck raspberry lemonade might Be one or two for me.

[Mal]

Pink lemonade being your top five is.

[Damaris]

It's white. I know.

[Rory]

Out of all that's mad white. It was that him and peach.

[Mal]

That's like. That's like.

[Damaris]

It's great.

[Mal]

Yeah. That's like white and then white, like, pink lemonade is. I don't get it.

[Damaris]

It's.

[Mal]

I mean, so where's lemonade at?

[Damaris]

I like pink lemonade better than lemonade.

[Mal]

All right, now you just.

[Damaris]

I do.

[Rory]

You know what I'm saying?

[Mal]

Where's. Where's, like. All right, so where's like a.

[Damaris]

But lemonade is like a six or seven. It's right there. So get me wrong.

[Mal]

So where's Arnold Palmer?

[Damaris]

Is that like it's making top 10?

[Rory]

No, nine. I know Palmer's kind of ass. I ain't gonna lie.

[Mal]

What?

[Damaris]

I'll.

[Mal]

Iced tea, lemonade.

[Damaris]

That's how wide I am. I'll put cranberry, raspberry, cranberry juice, Ocean spray, like, top three.

[Mal]

Nothing. We don't drink nothing. Ocean Spray over here.

[Rory]

Oh, you on your own, baby. Because that white. That white. White grape. That white grape went crazy. Now, granted, I can't. I don't drink juice like that.

[Mal]

Not a single cran Berry in there.

[Damaris]

Nah commercial. That white cranberry guys like going through the Cranberry River.

[Mal]

A single white peach. There's none of that in any of those boxes.

[Damaris]

As a kid, like, always want to go in one of those cranberry, like, ponds. Remember the commercials? They would be in, like, the cranberry pond.

[Mal]

Yes.

[Damaris]

I always, like, I've never stumbled upon one. Where do they hide them?

[Mal]

I don't think they're real.

[Damaris]

Like, I've. I've traveled, and no one's been. Like, when you're here, you have to see the cranberry first.

[Mal]

AI. The cranberry pond. That was the first ar. That's when they first fooled us on tv.

[Damaris]

And then I started thinking that cranberries were like, is it an ocean thing?

[Mal]

No.

[Damaris]

Like, for real?

[Mal]

Yeah, definitely not.

[Damaris]

Is it from sea urchins? How do they. How do they just create. It's just a bunch of sea urchins. But when they discontinued cranberry tangerine ocean spray, that was, like, a really devastating day for me. Cran.

[Mal]

Oh, y' all really drink Ocean Spray Cran.

[Damaris]

I was a kid.

[Rory]

I drink the white. The white crayon. I'll do it with. I'll do an ounce of it, and then I'll do 7 ounces of sparkling water.

[Damaris]

Oh, yeah.

[Mal]

So wait like you measure your drinks before you drink them.

[Rory]

Yeah, well, I use. I use Mason jars. They have the measurements already on there. So I'll just do the 1 ounce of juice, because juice has way too. That's. First of all, it's not real juice. And second of all, it's like there's no nutritional value other than sugar. So, yeah, I take the one little ounce and do with sparkling water when I want something sweet.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

But I mean, even now, I don't even really drink juice, like, that much to begin with at all.

[Mal]

That's what I drink now.

[Damaris]

My top 10 list, that's all this.

[Mal]

It is sparkling water and key lime bus. That's it.

[Damaris]

I've only only had key lime pie.

[Mal]

No, you gotta get some key lime in your water.

[Damaris]

I thought it was just some Key west head. No, for dessert.

[Mal]

You know. You don't know what a key lime is?

[Damaris]

What does it look like?

[Mal]

Like a very small version of a lime.

[Damaris]

The real limes, not the American ones with steroids in them.

[Mal]

Yeah. No.

[Damaris]

Oh, okay. Oh, yeah. Well then, yeah, sparkling water with lime is. That's a good.

[Mal]

Incredible.

[Rory]

Yeah, I feel like that's old people shit. Like, I can't. Like I can't drink no whole cup of chew. I feel like my teeth are just cracking in my mouth if I do that. Like, I need the sparkle. The water, like, it needs to have damn near no flavor.

[Mal]

Now I can't eat. I can't drink sparkling water with food, though.

[Rory]

Really?

[Mal]

No.

[Rory]

Oh, you feel full.

[Mal]

Not just that, like. Like bubbly. Washing that down. I'm eating. It's just.

[Damaris]

Nah, it's just burping up.

[Mal]

Yeah, I just need water. Give me some water. Some juice maybe, but not. No, no, no sparkling water.

[Damaris]

I was in LA shooting the off road video over the weekend and. Good segue because. When was the last time you guys had a Gatorade? Because I cannot believe that I drank that shit as a kid. Gatorade is so sweet. Like, I had not had a Gatorade in so long, and I had one on set and I was like, yo, how the did I drink it?

[Mal]

And I used to go crazy for the ice blue.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Oh, man.

[Rory]

I had a Gator Light maybe like last week.

[Damaris]

They have Gator Light.

[Rory]

They have Gator Light now? Yeah, it's like Pedialyte, but Gatorade.

[Damaris]

I thought it was like, isn't there like Watergate or whatever the. What is it? No, it's. It's a version of Gatorade that just is way less sweet.

[Rory]

Yeah, okay. I don't know, but it's like something else.

[Mal]

See, I don't want to see them talking about too many podcasting. There's too many drinks available. Let's talk about what's. What's really too. It's too many drinks on the shelves.

[Damaris]

New drinks in the streets.

[Mal]

What the is Gator Light?

[Rory]

It's a rapid rehydration electrolyte drink. I. I drink it when I.

[Mal]

No, that's Gatorade.

[Rory]

No, but Gator Light is better, I think, because it has less sugar but more electrolytes in it.

[Mal]

Oh, so you get diabetes slower. Yeah, yeah, got it.

[Rory]

Because I feel like real Gatorade is not like. That ain't really hitting with the electrolytes. That's like Pedialyte.

[Mal]

See, that's why y' all not. See y' all from a different time. See, in the park, all you needed was that the fire hydrant to be turned on to get rehydrated.

[Damaris]

I liked Gatorade as a kid, but never when I was playing sports.

[Mal]

I taste the minerals. You could taste the asphalt. Yeah, that real Bronx. It's not a mineral. Yeah, no, it's real asphalt. Taste the silver lining of the metal pipes in the city.

[Damaris]

That's gonna be a lawsuit.

[Mal]

Just flirt with an asbestos a little.

[Damaris]

That's always fluoride. It's great for you.

[Mal]

Yeah, you need it.

[Damaris]

Remember when they told us fluoride was good for us?

[Mal]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Damaris]

It's all in our water. But, yeah, when I was playing sports, I could not drink Gatorade. Did not quench my thirst at all. It kind of, like, made me more thirsty.

[Mal]

Yeah. Dries you out.

[Damaris]

How people could drink that while they were playing sports is beyond me, but.

[Mal]

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[Damaris]

I did. I wasn't even roaming. Yeah, it worked.

[Mal]

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[Rory]

What the.

[Damaris]

But no, LA was cool. I was in and out shot the video. But, you know, la still la.

[Mal]

Yeah. When I.

[Damaris]

When I'm missing much. Yeah, we actually. Really good time. It was the first time I've left like, a visual and, like, felt amazing and not pessimistic. I was like, this was a good, amazing day. So shout out to Raven. She directed it and she's also in it, so it's a fun video. I'm excited to show you guys.

[Mal]

Shout out to Raven.

[Rory]

Did you accidentally get knocked in the pool, or was that on purpose?

[Damaris]

You spoiling shit already. I can't speak.

[Rory]

My bad. Oh, I'm sorry. Take it out.

[Damaris]

Wild. Yeah, it's part of the. The actual treatment of me being pushed into a pool.

[Rory]

Oh.

[Damaris]

And I will tell you now, if you are going to get pushed in a pool, don't wear like probably the thickest corduroys of all time because you will sink to the bottom and you need to be a strong swimmer.

[Mal]

You had corduroys on in the pool?

[Damaris]

I did.

[Mal]

Nice. Yeah.

[Damaris]

Art. It's art.

[Mal]

Listen, man, it's art. You don't understand art, Right? I guess I caught a roll in the pool. Never. I never really thought about.

[Damaris]

You don't understand this Virgil shit, right?

[Mal]

You absolutely different. What are you. I said you write about seven times. You're right. You got it. You won.

[Damaris]

But that was your Fourth of July.

[Mal]

It was cool, man. Chill, Quiet. Just. I ain't do nothing too much. Went to my boys crib. Yeah. A little cookout. Was there for a couple hours and got back home. That was it.

[Damaris]

Damaris, she went to. Did you go to Miami or that. That was another weekend.

[Rory]

No, there's another one. I went to ATL and saw some friends. It was cool.

[Damaris]

Okay, What's Atlanta like on the 4th?

[Rory]

I didn't really get to see anything. Like, I was kind of like more towards the suburbs and, you know, I ain't really want to be in the mix anyway. So it was. I mean, I guess people have fun. I don't know. I'm boring. Y' all know I don't do. I was. I bought a new book.

[Mal]

I was reading Everybody hates America till July 4th.

[Damaris]

I think they still hate it. I think they just enjoy. They just enjoy a day off.

[Mal]

And they was loving July. They was outside, it was traffic everywhere. Fireworks on every block. I'm like, all right, man. I thought these were illegal.

[Damaris]

I will say. I mean la. I got there sorely. I didn't really do anything. I pretty much flew to LA the entire 4th of July, but there really wasn't traffic like I thought there was going to be even. I was in like by mid City where the fireworks were and drove like it was a regular LA night. I was like, oh, nobody gives a about this holiday anymore. Yeah, but I mean, go America, I guess.

[Mal]

Hey, man, listen, man.

[Damaris]

The fireworks here actually look beautiful.

[Mal]

Bill signed. That was the birthday gift to America.

[Damaris]

What is that exactly?

[Mal]

The big beautiful bill. You know what the big beautiful bill is? Come on. Tons of stuff. Yeah, come on, man. There's tons of stuff in there.

[Damaris]

The fireworks actually look kind of cool in New York. All the videos I saw under the Brooklyn Bridge with all the sparklers, I thought they, like, kind of went all out. Eric Adams is trying to do. Do his. His last hurrah.

[Mal]

Listen, man, this is definitely his last hurrah. He's out of there, I can tell you that. Right?

[Damaris]

He just wants to the money on fireworks while he's here.

[Mal]

He's gone. He's out of there. Get him out of there.

[Damaris]

Well, on July 4th, I believe it was on July 4th, Drake dropped a new record. Well, I guess like a mini movie. Like a film, I guess.

[Mal]

Short.

[Damaris]

Short film.

[Mal]

Visualize episode one. Yeah.

[Damaris]

Okay, I. I didn't know it was episodes. So, yeah, it was the visual for what did I Miss? Plus a snippet of another record that sounded pretty good. But what's. What's everyone's thoughts of what did I miss? Mall predicted this, like, in April. Like, or. Or did you just. Were you just asking the question, what did you miss? And it was just a coincidence.

[Mal]

It was a coincidence. It was a cool.

[Damaris]

I mean, I figured that's it.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Come on.

[Damaris]

Sometimes you wake up. Yeah. What did I miss?

[Mal]

Exactly? Everybody says it, right? Yeah.

[Damaris]

What's funny is I remember when you tweeted that and I started, like, looking through the comments of, like, wondering what you missed. I was like, wait, did I miss something? Did you know, like, sometimes when Mall put the laughing emojis, then I gotta go find what he's laug about. I really thought with the what did I miss? It was similar to laugh emojis. And I was like, I must have missed it too. Yeah, maybe we'll find out on the episode. But. But your thoughts on the record.

[Mal]

I mean, you know, great record, great song to come back with great sentiment. I think he addressed a lot of his feelings coming out of last year. Well, some of his feelings. Not a lot of them, but some of them, I'm assuming. Yeah, it's good, good music. I think that's what he. Drake, is getting back to. Just make some good music. You know, last year we had, obviously, one of the biggest moments in our culture's history. And, you know, him coming out of it, feeling the way he feels and looking back at things. I guess this is the song that he sat in the studio and this is what he came up with. So this was the sentiment, what did I miss? And yeah, I like it. Good music.

[Damaris]

Yeah, I know. I think it's a cool record. And this is just going to be more like overthinking it for. Not just for the sake of conversation, but just I like to overthink records. Wouldn't have been better if it was just more open ended and generic. Like, because I think the hook is incredible. I think everyone can relate to that. Like, I think it was really only the pop out line where I was like, either do it or don't. Like either go all the way back in and let's go round 19 on this entire thing or just make this record's already there. Like the hook is there, everything's great about it. I just don't know if like a the pop out part was necessary because then it brought everyone back to talking about this battle again instead of just a great record.

[Mal]

News flash, worry it's never what Drake does for the rest of his life.

[Damaris]

Okay, that's a fair point.

[Mal]

They're gonna bring up that battle. Yeah, just get that out. This could have been a straight R B song. No matter what he does for the rest of his career, somebody is gonna find a line somewhere to attach it to the battle. Yeah, but the pop out line I thought was necessary. Like, you know, it was. He's reminiscing on everything that he sat back and watched.

[Damaris]

So was that. I saw the debate. Was that about Braun or Demar or both?

[Mal]

Listen, man, if you ask those two gentlemen, I think they both feel like it's about them. Right. Tyler may feel like it's about him, you know, like there's a few people that was there.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Mal]

They feel like it was about them. So, you know, it's kind of like if it applies, wear it. That's all.

[Damaris]

But yeah, I mean, I think it's a catchy record. You know, I like, I like the beat switch. It was a school record.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Like I, I don't really want to overthink it. Like that was kind of just the only thought I had outside of this is catchy and this will probably work for the summer.

[Mal]

Oh yeah. I mean it's definitely going to work.

[Damaris]

But do you think this would be the one to pass Michael Jackson? Because I, I like the record. I just don't think it's one of those.

[Mal]

You don't think this is going to be number one?

[Damaris]

I don't know. Even for Drake, number one records are not as easy as people think they are. Like overall, it's for hip hop, sure, yeah, it'll be number one. But an overall number one record is a very, very difficult thing to do. Like look at the last number one Drakehead first person shooter. Like That's a legendary song. That's a classic record. It's. It's tough to get number ones. I don't know if this will be the one, though.

[Mal]

I could be first person shooter. To me, I was shocked.

[Damaris]

He went number one.

[Mal]

Exactly.

[Damaris]

Like, I was really shocked.

[Mal]

I'm not shocked that this is gonna be a number one record. First person shoot it to me, definitely. Still, to this day, I can't believe what number one. Wait, because that was, like, a rap record.

[Rory]

Oh, that's why you didn't. Okay. I just wanted.

[Mal]

You.

[Rory]

Okay. I just wanted to clarify, because I was, like, genuinely confused. Like, that's a.

[Damaris]

No. I'll take the classic record. But, like.

[Mal]

No, no, no. It's just.

[Damaris]

It's such a hit record record. Like.

[Mal]

Yeah, but it's. That's like rap. Like, you understand what I'm saying? That's, like, really, really just two MCs rapping on that record. Like, but I have to be number one. Like, that. Like, I didn't think that that would be number one.

[Damaris]

Even, like, when Cole goes number one, it's. With Miguel. Like, it's never tough to go number one with rap.

[Rory]

Well, that was Cole's first number one, so he's never went number one before. But, I mean, I get that. But I also. He's also the reason the record went number one. It doesn't go number one without him.

[Mal]

No, we don't.

[Rory]

What are we. What are we doing?

[Mal]

The marriage. You think you can prove that?

[Rory]

No one can prove. You can't prove that. You can.

[Mal]

He doesn't have number one. He does not have any of the number one. That's how it's proven.

[Rory]

Okay. I didn't say that it would go number one without Drake, but I also don't think it goes number one without Cole. I think them together, meshed together is what made that record so good. I don't think that's a wild statement.

[Mal]

To say if somebody doesn't have any other number one for you to put that against. I think that is a very wild statement for you to say.

[Rory]

For me to say that them together made the record is.

[Mal]

No, no, no. It's not. What you said. You said without Cold, it doesn't go number one.

[Rory]

I. Because the best part of that song is. Drake will say the best part of that song is Cold. That was the most memorable part of the record when it dropped. Am I making this up?

[Damaris]

Like, I think it's, like, a hard thing to even prove. Debate. Yeah. Like. All right, so if Cole's not on it. Is it a blank verse? No, it's not going to like.

[Mal]

No, no, no, no. Her statement was that record doesn't go number one.

[Rory]

I personally don't think that that record.

[Mal]

Doesn'T have a number one.

[Damaris]

Number one without Alicia Keys, but they both, like, delivered.

[Mal]

All right, you missed what I'm saying. If an artist does not have a number one record, how can you make a statement that if he wasn't on that record, it wouldn't go number one?

[Damaris]

Well, everyone gets their first number one. When I. Everyone. But to have a number one record means you. You got a first one without proof that you could get one.

[Mal]

You still don't answer my question.

[Damaris]

If Cole was to stand out, if.

[Mal]

You don't have a number, if you don't have any number one records in your. In your catalog. Rory.

[Damaris]

Okay.

[Mal]

And you have a song with me. I have probably 80 number one records.

[Damaris]

Okay.

[Mal]

However many who's counting at this point. Right. If you would make the statement that, yo, if I wasn't on that song, it wouldn't went number one.

[Damaris]

No, I just think they both complement each other. I think there's been plenty of times we know that they both singer has done a hook that didn't have a number one record and it went number one.

[Mal]

It's a great.

[Damaris]

Because of their hook.

[Mal]

It's a great song. We know that they both complement each other. Well. I'm asking you the statement of saying if this person who doesn't have any number one songs, if he wasn't on this record, it wouldn't go number one, is that a fair statement?

[Damaris]

I. I said to both you guys, I think it's not a fair statement on either side. It's a weird. It's a weird thing to even debate.

[Mal]

Especially when you don't have any other number one record.

[Damaris]

Sure.

[Mal]

Exactly what I'm saying. But back to you, Baby D. I'm sorry.

[Damaris]

Deliver it.

[Rory]

I lost my train of thought, child. Anyway, first. First person Shooter was amazing. It was an amazing song. I was just wondering why you didn't think that it should have went number one. You said it was rappy rap. I don't think. I think the only person that was super, super rapping, like, in a way that songs don't go number one when you rap like that is Cole Drake didn't really get into a super, super rap bag on that song. He made it. Drake made it like a song. He didn't really go super rap.

[Damaris]

Even the way he rapped on that. I wouldn't say, are similar to what Drake's number one records have been. It was a very hip hop record to me. That's why I was shocked. That's all.

[Mal]

Oh, wow.

[Rory]

We can agree.

[Damaris]

I mean, I think it's great that a record like that can go number one, but a rapidy rap record like that, you're going to need Drake and J. Cole to make that go number one for sure. In. In that sense. Because, like, I don't know too many rappy rap records that have ever went number one. Is there any, like, rapity rap songs, maybe?

[Mal]

Lose yourself.

[Damaris]

Yeah. Okay. Also Eminem, I'm now Chico Rap.

[Mal]

He rapping, though. It's Chico rapity rap rap. But that's all.

[Rory]

Yeah, I'm looking up rap songs that went number one on Billboard, but you guys can keep going. Sorry.

[Damaris]

So Josh had asked in our Twitter, New Royal Twitter community what people were thinking of the new Drake record. Somebody said, I have grudges for from the sixth grade. So, yeah, I too will never shut the up about someone I consider a friend doing me wrong immediately added to my workout playlist. Yeah, it's relatable. Great B. But after a couple listens, he still don't realize we want more substance from him. Like, first.

[Mal]

All right.

[Damaris]

Why Every song doesn't have that substance. And by the way, that song does have substance on it. It's just like a catchy record. So you don't purposely dumb things down for melody. But what. Like that's just. I'm just. Everyone's opinions are off to me today. That's all.

[Rory]

Like, why I just want to throw out here that Mark. That Marky Mark had. Marky Mark and the Funky Bunch has a number one record as they.

[Damaris]

I mean, as they should. And that's.

[Mal]

That's.

[Damaris]

That's.

[Rory]

I want to throw that out there.

[Damaris]

That's rappy rap rap.

[Mal]

Right?

[Damaris]

What else is on there? That would be surprising.

[Rory]

That would be surprising. I don't think anything. Crossroads went number one. I don't think that that's surprising though.

[Damaris]

And that, I mean, Bone Dogs are great rappers, but I would not call Crossroads a rapidy rap song.

[Rory]

Yeah, Hypnotize obviously is on there, but I'm looking for things that are more super rapidly rapid. I'm actually.

[Damaris]

Does first person shooter even have a hook?

[Rory]

No.

[Damaris]

Yeah, like that. That's shocking. Hypnotized. Even if Big is rapping his ass off on that, you know why it's going number one for sure? That sample and the hook.

[Mal]

But I think first person isn't it big as the biggest. The what? Because this. Isn't that the hook. Big as a Super Bowl.

[Damaris]

I love that verse.

[Mal]

I think that's. I think that could be the hook.

[Damaris]

I think so, yeah.

[Mal]

Oh, I gotta listen to it again.

[Damaris]

Ice size baby.

[Mal]

Somewhere in there.

[Rory]

Nice Ice. Yeah.

[Mal]

That's not rap. But that's a pop record.

[Damaris]

I mean, it is a pop record, but let's not act like if you go back when Ice wasn't like, kind of rapping on that. No, I know it's become, like, cheesy, but, like, he was getting his off on that rap 100.

[Mal]

He was rapping. But it's a pop. It's a pop record.

[Damaris]

Listen, man. Chris Cross was. Was kind of rapping on jump.

[Rory]

Eminem featuring Dr. Dream, 50 Cent, Crack a Bottle.

[Damaris]

That went number one. I hated that song. I hated that song so much.

[Mal]

There's no way that one.

[Damaris]

That song is so bad.

[Mal]

There's no way that song.

[Rory]

It did. It did. Yeah. Everything else is stuff that you. That was suspect.

[Damaris]

Crack a Bottle, like, right at, like, the peak of 50, when things were, like, plateauing a bit, but it was.

[Mal]

Still at that time.

[Damaris]

Yeah, I could see why.

[Mal]

I get it. That song does not deserve to be number one. God.

[Damaris]

Snow Informer went number one, of course.

[Mal]

What? That was on every 90s CD commercial. Like, are you kidding me? Of course. That was number one.

[Damaris]

Gangster's Paradise.

[Mal]

Absolutely number one.

[Damaris]

Yeah. I'm saying he was rapping his ass off on that.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Has a super catchy hook, though.

[Rory]

Humble. I mean, Humble has a super catchy hits hook too, but I would say that Humble is the. One of the most rappy rap songs.

[Damaris]

I didn't even know. Humble One. Number one.

[Rory]

Yeah. Humble One.

[Damaris]

Yeah. Humble's a rappy rap fucking song.

[Rory]

And Bodak Yellow.

[Damaris]

Yeah, Bodak Yellow doesn't have a hook, right?

[Rory]

No, Bodak Yellow has it. Yes. See little. You can't with me if you wanted to.

[Damaris]

Oh, yeah. Getting jiggy with it. I mean, it was written by Nas. He rapping.

[Rory]

Yeah. But the majority of these songs, you would expect to go number one from the moment you heard them.

[Damaris]

Yeah, for sure. So.

[Rory]

Yeah. But yeah, that was. I mean, in comparison to that, it is. I guess it is a rapidy rap song just to wrap that conversation up.

[Mal]

But.

[Damaris]

But I mean, as far as, like, reactions from everyone on the timeline, I. Not that I was, like, going out of my way not to read through too much because I was sort of busy, but I. I don't, like, really even care about people's opinions when it comes to anything like Drake and Kendrick related anymore.

[Rory]

Oh, yeah, for sure.

[Damaris]

I don't even want to check social media when they put stuff out. Like, I just want to either enjoy the music or if I don't like the music, not listen to it.

[Mal]

That's the. That's the. See, but. That's the. But that's the bad part about it. That those two now are forever. What he doing? What he doing? It's like you gotta kind of look in the side view and see what. See what each other's doing. It's like we wasn't doing that.

[Damaris]

And I don't blame people for reacting that way, especially if, you know, he's bringing up stuff from that era in this song. So, like, I get it. I'm just. I'm exhausted.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

But I just want to like the music I like.

[Mal]

Yeah, but he did. He wasn't like, he didn't bring up Kendrick. He. He said the pop.

[Damaris]

I said that era. I said that era. Like that moment in time.

[Mal]

I mean, that's. That's what he is from now on, as far as he's concerned. I'm sure. Yeah, absolutely.

[Damaris]

A funny word.

[Mal]

Yeah. What you thought that was going to change? No, that's never going to change.

[Damaris]

What's the line in that when he says. Yeah, I did laugh at the line. Why you hanging out with. Who tried.

[Rory]

Peach put a melody to it?

[Damaris]

Well, yeah. What you think about the snippet of the second record when he's driving around in the Iceman truck?

[Mal]

Supermax.

[Damaris]

Oh, yeah. I guess that would be the name. Yeah, he. He did say that on the hook. Yeah. I thought it was a good record.

[Mal]

You want to hear. Not right here. No, I'm just.

[Damaris]

Yeah, I was about to say. Would love to.

[Mal]

No. Yeah.

[Damaris]

Love to know about the conversation at dinner with Taylor.

[Mal]

Good music man. Good Music man. That's all. That's all I want. I just want Good music man. It's like I want to hear good music.

[Damaris]

What. What do we think Iceman is going to be with based off the one record we do have and the official snippet, Even though it's not a snippet like you, that's. It's just not on dsps.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

You could listen to the high quality version of that right now on YouTube. But what's it. What's everyone's thoughts of where this direction is going to be again? I do share similar albums. Yeah. The album. I do share similar thoughts with some of the people in our Twitter Community. If people did that shit to me, I'd never let it go either. I'm always gonna bring that shit up. Do we think the whole fucking album is gonna be that, though?

[Mal]

Nah, I don't think the whole album's gonna be. I think there's obviously always gonna be certain bars and things like that, but the whole album being that. No, I think, you know, it is what it is. Like, this is, you know, we like for rappers and artists to write from real experiences and real moments and things like that. This was a real experience and a real moment for what happens to be one of the biggest artists in the world. So, yeah, we're gonna hear about this. It's not gonna be something that I think that he just ever completely pushes to the back of his mind and moves past, but addressing in a way where it feels like it's still part of a battle or ongoing battle. No, I think that's over with. But there's always gonna be bars and shit directed at certain moments and certain people around those moments, I think, for a while to come, for sure. But I think the music, I mean, he's getting back to what Drake does best, and that's make. Make good music.

[Damaris]

So, yeah, I'm curious, like, production wise, what direction he's going on this one.

[Mal]

As far as the music.

[Damaris]

Yeah, I. I really.

[Mal]

I mean, I'm sure a lot of Boy Wonder.

[Damaris]

Yeah, Super Max. I like that beat a lot. What did I miss? I mean, it's. It's a cool beat. I. I get it. But I'm more so thinking like album cuts than I am singles, but if.

[Mal]

It'S anything like the second on there.

[Damaris]

If it's anything like the second record he played, I'm. I'm looking forward to it.

[Mal]

Yeah, but are you looking forward to any Drake album? For sure.

[Damaris]

Yeah, absolutely. J, what's your thoughts on Iceman, outside of not liking the title?

[Rory]

I didn't say I didn't like the title.

[Damaris]

I know, but I know you thought it.

[Rory]

I didn't really. I heard, like, clips of it. I didn't really sit and listen to it.

[Damaris]

Daniel wasn't outside listening to what Do I Miss in Atlanta.

[Rory]

No, no, I didn't. I didn't really.

[Damaris]

You touch the street.

[Rory]

I don't know. I've gotten to a point where I am a little exhausted from this beef, so. Anything that even looks like it's. I'm more than a exhausted. Anything that even looks like it could be related, there could be a sub. I'm not running to it. I'll listen to it eventually, but I'm not running it. I. Give me for the hoes.

[Damaris]

Like, oh, no, what did. I meant the host. That's gonna be. Captions non stop like this. Definitely for the host.

[Rory]

Okay.

[Damaris]

You should check it out.

[Mal]

Shady as girls are to each other. Absolutely. That whole.

[Rory]

See, not that I'm not. I'm not a shady. So. Like that, like, tell me about you being sad you lost a. And you bought her a Chanel bag. And that's. That's what I want to hear.

[Damaris]

I don't.

[Rory]

Like, I don't. I want to hear you talk about buying that Outback. So this beef, I'm exhausted about it, honestly. Like, please give me something where I could post so I could let A know I want this Chanel bag that Drake was talking about. Please.

[Damaris]

Oh, speaking of. Of rap battles, I thought Maul got me in trouble with Dreamville again.

[Rory]

How?

[Mal]

I didn't even say nothing.

[Damaris]

I. I was. I guess it was like, right when I was taking off, I got a FaceTime from my guy Barry, who was Jid and Earth gang's manager. Super, super great guy. I saw the missed call when I landed, and then I had him was like, yo, it was a flight. He didn't reply for like a day. And then I was like, you thought.

[Mal]

He kicked you out the car?

[Damaris]

I was like, that was odd. He text me back pretty quick, so I FaceTimed him. He was like, oh, no, no. I meant to call a different Rory and was like, oh, I thought. I thought I was getting trouble for the Nick Grant situation. I just assumed right when I saw that missed call because we had just dropped the episode, I was like, oh, this is 100% a missed call about Nick Grant and J and Dreamville being mad at me. Once again, we were just, like, all coming back to be family. No, but it's just rap healing our hearts.

[Mal]

No, it's. No, it's. No nothing. It's just rap, man. Just. Rappers want to rap, man. Let's rap. That's all.

[Damaris]

Did Jid react to anything? I mean, I. I did see a lot of people on the Internet talking about it, which I. I thought is great because I think Nick deserves as much flowers and, you know, attention as possible. But, yeah, I'm not sure if J. If Jid did, but I know he's.

[Mal]

I mean, he dropped the song with Eminem.

[Damaris]

You think that was the reply to our podcast?

[Mal]

Absolutely. Yo, what was. What's the name of it?

[Damaris]

He just got a.90 bars from Eminem.

[Mal]

Yeah. What's the name of animal?

[Damaris]

Part one, I believe.

[Mal]

Oh, Animal. Okay.

[Damaris]

Yeah. So he's putting out. I don't know if all of them are on DSPs yet or just YouTube. I know Animals on DSPs, but Jada put out, I think it was, like, four or five records that aren't making the album. So, like, you know, a pre ep.

[Mal]

So the Eminem songs not making out?

[Damaris]

No, which I was, like, happy about.

[Mal]

I know why you're happy about it, but that's.

[Damaris]

That's because I love Jade's, like, photography. And even though I get it, Jitty's a rapper, that's just not for me.

[Mal]

Okay, cool. Great. What I'm saying is this. Have we ever seen a situation where Eminem gives somebody a verse and it doesn't make the album?

[Rory]

No, I don't think I ever seen that before.

[Mal]

That's what I'm talking to. Rory, I'm not talking to your preference and what you want to hear at this stage of your life. I'm not talking to that.

[Damaris]

My preference to keep it off the album.

[Mal]

Okay, I got that.

[Damaris]

And that seems to be their preference, too.

[Mal]

No, listen, but this is why I want to ask the bigger question here, because JD May have just made history with this move. Have we ever seen Eminem give an artist a verse and they leave it off of their album?

[Rory]

No.

[Mal]

I don't know. I don't know is all I'm saying. I don't know. Wait, did that Conway, the diverse that Eminem gave Conway, did they. Did that end up on the album?

[Damaris]

Did that end up coming out, like, officially the song?

[Mal]

I thought it linked, but was it on a project?

[Rory]

Let's get that.

[Damaris]

Was it on Conway's project Bang featuring Eminem? Yeah.

[Mal]

What album was that on? It was on God Don't Make Mistakes. Okay.

[Damaris]

So, yeah, first of all, at that point, I think Conway was still signed to Shady. You think they're. They're going to allow a Shady artist to not put their Eminem verse on their own?

[Mal]

Well, this is. That will be the. This will be the only verse that I probably can think of on from Eminem that I couldn't remember if it was on the album or not, but that was on God Don't Make Mistakes. Cool. So that's on the album. I don't know if this may be the first time that Eminem's given an artist a verse and it's not on the album.

[Damaris]

Yeah, I thought when initially, before I'd read the JID's post of saying, like, here's the records that aren't making it. They'll be on DSP soon. Here's YouTube. I thought that was the first single. I'm sorry. The second single of the album. I was like, oh, Offset record. Right to the Eminem joint and thinking something is the second single. And then finding out minutes later that it's not even making the album was like, okay, cool. Listen, I'm fine by me.

[Mal]

I just would like to. I need more information on how that conversation went, though, with him and his people. Like, yo, listen, thanks for the verse, but we're not going to put it on the project.

[Damaris]

I shot this. Maybe Big Sean.

[Mal]

I don't.

[Damaris]

I'm trying.

[Mal]

I don't know.

[Damaris]

I'll get. Yeah, you're. I don't think that's. This is.

[Mal]

This is. This is new territory right here. This is like Eminem giving. First of all, getting the Eminem verse is a big deal. And then you saying, yo. Nah, we cool. We. You know, it didn't really fit the aesthetic of what we trying to. However you dress it up on the email. It didn't fit the aesthetic on the email. Yeah, whatever it is. Because you're not going to call him and say it's not making the. The album. You're going to send that in the email. So. I don't know, man. This is. This is a. This is a. This is a bold move right here.

[Damaris]

And on top of that, like, M. Of course, when M does features, he raps for a while, but he, like, he rapped for a long time on this.

[Mal]

Oh. Or is it. Is this a world where M didn't clear it?

[Damaris]

No, because it. They wouldn't put it out.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Like, JD Is with a major like that day.

[Mal]

I'm just listening. I'm just trying to find. I'm just trying to find the, you know, Eminem verse being left off your album after he, you know, Grace graciously sent it to you. This. That's a bold move is all I'm saying.

[Damaris]

And, like, it said Animal Part one. So, like, what if Animal Part two is on the album and it's, like, featuring, like, Ian.

[Mal]

Ian who?

[Damaris]

The little white kid that sounds like Future. Like, what. What if Animal Part two has a wild feature on it and it made the. It made the album.

[Mal]

Several Eminem collaborations were recorded, but ultimately didn't make it onto his album. No, those are his album.

[Damaris]

That's his.

[Mal]

Yeah. God damn it, Josh. Yeah.

[Damaris]

No, there's no way there's a floating out there, so.

[Mal]

But that's funny that that's the only way an inverse doesn't make the albums. If it's his album, it's gotta be his. Yeah.

[Damaris]

Yes. As well. What's that exhibit in Eminem song? That's great. I don't know if that ever made a album. Like Don't Approach me or something. That was. That was a. A great record.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Don't Approach Me now. That made an exhibit album, bro.

[Mal]

I'm telling you, man.

[Rory]

I think. I don't think there's any.

[Mal]

This does not happen.

[Rory]

It never happened.

[Mal]

Yeah, and you said that like, it was just like, bro, Eminem verse. Don't get left off of albums after he sent you a verse.

[Damaris]

Okay.

[Mal]

That's. This is. That's like leaving. That's almost like leaving a J album off your album. A J verse off your album. Has that happened? Not really. But that's almost like leaving the J verse off your album. Like, those are like this. The legends of legends.

[Damaris]

Yeah. Has that ever happened with Oath? Like, with no biggest artists, you think.

[Mal]

Somebody has a Jay Z version that didn't make.

[Damaris]

But I'm thinking you don't believe that politics. I thought, like, maybe politics of like. Like, that was their single and then they never put album out. It would have been on an album, but, like, the album never came. I'm thinking something like that.

[Rory]

If I had a Jay Z verse.

[Mal]

Whatever that album is coming out, whatever label distribution you got, they are making sure that rolls out of the door. There's no way you have a Jay Z verse and it's your single and then the album doesn't come out. That. That's not happening.

[Damaris]

Did she ever put out album? She got a bunch of J verses.

[Mal]

Yeah, but that's different. That was his artist. It's different. That's his artist. You know what I'm saying? Like, nah. Yeah.

[Damaris]

You don't have Saigon Found one. Yes.

[Mal]

He has a Jay Z verse.

[Damaris]

Yes.

[Mal]

Didn't come out.

[Damaris]

I don't think it made the album when he was supposed to have that one with just Blaze. Jay Z.

[Mal]

But wasn't he just. Just artist?

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Come on, baby. Saigon. It's a good record. I don't even know if it officially ever came out.

[Mal]

Come on, baby. Come on, baby. Yeah, I remember that joint. I feel like that was you somewhere.

[Damaris]

No, never mind. From moral of the story.

[Mal]

Exactly, exactly.

[Damaris]

I thought it didn't, like, come out officially.

[Mal]

Nah, man. You don't have a Jay Z verse and nothing comes out. That does not happen. This does not have Eminem. I'M talking about.

[Rory]

I'll just give up on looking.

[Mal]

This is yo telling Eminem, yo, listen, I'm cool, but.

[Damaris]

Yeah. All right, you know what?

[Rory]

Thank you.

[Damaris]

Okay, so do we think that Animal Part two is just Eminem and Jit again? Like, that's why. And because they Both rapped for 15 minutes that maybe they'd split it up.

[Mal]

Cool.

[Rory]

I hope not. It's crazy.

[Mal]

I hope not. We're not. We're not going. Don't give us a part 2 in this y' all again. Y' all could have just stayed here, like, for part one, splitting it up. Don't Fast and Furious us with this. Don't. Don't do that.

[Damaris]

I mean, all right, how about the family?

[Mal]

Who.

[Damaris]

All right, so who do you think's on Animal Part two, then? If it's in the theme of this, like, who do you get after Eminem? After you rapidly rap and the Animals.

[Mal]

Are all of the songs that are not making an album. Yeah, he might be a J first.

[Rory]

Yo. Idea is crazy on an ep.

[Damaris]

No visual. Oh, just a little throwaway.

[Mal]

I don't know, man. I don't know what Jit doing over there. But, you know, telling Eminem we cool is crazy.

[Damaris]

I mean, well, all right. Does that speak to how great this album could be that he's, you know, just throwing Eminem as. It's like.

[Mal]

But why you think he didn't make the album? You think he think he didn't like Emma's verse?

[Damaris]

No, I don't think. I hope he said this doesn't fit the project and, like, sonically, what we're doing and here's just some fun rap stuff that we can throw out before my actual album.

[Mal]

That don't just happen, man. This is happening.

[Damaris]

Yo, you know what? What's funny is I. I'm not a fan of the song, but it's one of the better M verses I've heard in a while.

[Mal]

I hate the song.

[Damaris]

I do, too. But I'm saying it's one of the better M verses, so that's why it's even kind of crazier.

[Mal]

That's bold, man. Telling Eminem we cool is bold, bro. That does you, Roy. You laughing. But this would be a series that does not happen.

[Damaris]

There may have been a conversation of not putting it out at all. And they're like, we can't do that.

[Mal]

That is crazy. That's wild. That's like. That is. That is wild.

[Rory]

Even if it comes on the album, it's just, like, the last track. Like, we cool. Like you got to put it on there.

[Mal]

That is crazy. Yeah.

[Damaris]

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[Mal]

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[Damaris]

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[Mal]

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[Mal]

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[Rory]

Oh God.

[Mal]

Sorry Skeptic. What's up with you bro? What's going on, bruv?

[Damaris]

Bruv is looney.

[Mal]

So, so Skepta has a. He's. He's into it with Rocky right now, right?

[Damaris]

Is that like official, like for real?

[Mal]

That's what he said he was like after he finished making this record. Dissing Rocky, he gonna give joining like a bar in that record. And so I'm just like, oh, so is he talking about ASAP Rock? Is it another Rocky out there that I'm not aware of? I can only think he's assume he's talking about ASAP Rocky at this point, right? It's only Rocky. I think Skeptic would be, yeah, making a diss record. So unless there's some dope ass artists from the UK named Rocky that's, you know, making Noise out there right now, but I think I would have heard of him. I mean, okay, well, if it is.

[Damaris]

ASAP Rocky he's talking about, he may have a point. I thought that was an insane statement. But if he saw my ASAP Rocky, I think Skeptic would give Rocky a run. Rocky is. It makes great music, but I don't even think Rocky would say he's like the most lyrical. Yeah, no, even his response to Drake was like, like, dude, why would you even. You just gave him all the ammo to replies.

[Mal]

No, no.

[Damaris]

This is the worst thought out bar I've ever heard.

[Mal]

Let's be clear. Like, I know a lot of people are not on to the UK rap scene and don't know, but like, they get into that battle mode. Oh yeah, and Skepta is, you know, he's been at this for a while.

[Damaris]

So how I heard about a lot of the early UK crime stuff was because they was all beefing.

[Mal]

Exactly. Yeah.

[Damaris]

It was diss records that. That you heard they do do. I'm not saying in my American arrogant way that we would clean them up, but I mean, because it goes without saying we would clean them up. But I'm not. I'm not. But I'm not taking away of how talented they are, especially when it does come to the battle. But if we send our best and you send your best. I don't know, man.

[Rory]

He had some other like, some other people lined up as far as gets versus Eminem, Chip versus Kendrick Lamar, Dave versus Lil Wayne, and Young.

[Damaris]

Steph is cleaning Wayne up right now.

[Rory]

Okay. And Young's Teflon versus Meek Mill are a few of the head to heads that he floated.

[Mal]

Yeah, you can't do that. But why we got other skep like, what's up with you, bro? It's other niggas that can rap. Like, what are you doing?

[Damaris]

Why you just threw Meek in the mix like that?

[Rory]

Meek is minding his business.

[Mal]

Like me came say nothing to nobody.

[Rory]

Like I think they said Blade Brown versus Pusha T, Queenie versus Megan Thee Stallion, Central C with Jack Harlow.

[Mal]

And I ain't gonna l cinch my rap jack up though. Cinch my rap Jack.

[Damaris]

All I with Central C. But I think you.

[Mal]

He might.

[Damaris]

You underrated. Nah, I'm taking Jack in that order.

[Mal]

He might listen. I love Churchill Downs too, Rory, but he might pack.

[Damaris]

Jack got packed up on that song though.

[Mal]

I mean. Yeah, but that's one of his better, better verses though.

[Damaris]

I mean. Pause, Jackman. He was rapping.

[Mal]

Rapping on that Central Cinch might get him though. That matchup. That's the matchup that we might have to sit back and analyze a little deeper. I don't.

[Damaris]

I think Central C, because remember, Cinch is the.

[Mal]

He's UK drill. Yeah. So that whole. That energy that's already aggressive energy that he lives in, I just feel like he invented the Nike tech.

[Damaris]

That is true.

[Mal]

So he's war ready.

[Damaris]

I just feel like as whites, we need to stick together. We're better together. White on white crime.

[Mal]

I love white on white crime. I need it. Need it in my life.

[Damaris]

Meanwhile, I was fine with all the other matchups. Well, Jo.

[Mal]

Hell yeah.

[Rory]

Joiner said he wants smoke with Skepta.

[Damaris]

So SK said, you're not big enough. Skepta says Joy Lucas isn't big enough. I mean, we already know. I don't know. Joyner might win because he might rap from skeptic perspective and dis himself. He might battle like. He might battle damn. And like put it on.

[Mal]

Joyner could rap though.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Join a. Correct. He's. He's battle tested. He could rap.

[Damaris]

I focus. I'm taking Joyner in that battle.

[Mal]

But skeptics battle tested too. And he can rap. So I mean, listen, man, if it's all for sport it. Let's see it. That's where I'm at now, man. If rappers feel. Because we. We complain for years worry about rappers not rapping. Oh yeah. Rappers started acting, rappers started modeling, rappers started fucking, trying to play sports, all kind of shit. Anything but rapping. Now that rappers want to rap, I'm happy. Fuck it. Let them rap. Rap. Join a. Fuck it. Drop the record. Joiner don't wait for Skip. Drop the fucking record. I know you got it recorded. Drop the record. Fuck it. Let's start it. Start it off. Set it off.

[Damaris]

Did join in reply because he's always trying to.

[Mal]

He need to reply to the record tonight. Drop it. Release the fucking record. That's how you get a rapper to respond. Don't you gotta wait for no IG post and go live and it. Nah, I'm on your top. Here's the record. Drop it on YouTube, wherever. Let's get into it. Let's see what y' all could do.

[Damaris]

Did. Did he put gigs up against anyone in a hypothetical?

[Rory]

I didn't see gigs, no.

[Damaris]

Are they cool?

[Mal]

Skeptic? Yeah, I can only assume they are. Okay. I don't. I don't. I don't think they have. I don't mean. I don't know. I haven't. You Know, really gotten into that, but I cannot.

[Rory]

I believe they are, but I don't now. Let me go back. Skepta named a few of these, but a lot of these were like, fans.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Rory]

I just wanted to.

[Damaris]

I mean, I wouldn't want to battle gigs outside of him being a great rapper. I just. I think he might take that too far.

[Rory]

Gigs is so sweet. I would put that on.

[Damaris]

Of course he is. Those be. Those be the ones. Marisa. People in the world.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Say the wrong thing.

[Mal]

A lot of machete the size of that tripod right there.

[Damaris]

100. With that amazing smile that he has with just a machete like this.

[Mal]

Shout out to gigs, man.

[Damaris]

I'm trying to think what other rap battles. There was some more that I felt like happened.

[Mal]

More rappers wanting to rap.

[Damaris]

I thought so I could be wrong. I was also distracted by thinking we have. We have hit rock bottom when people were covering themselves in baby oil outside of a courthouse. Like, is this even a simulation anymore? Like, can we do a reboot?

[Mal]

Oh, yeah. We deep into the simulation.

[Damaris]

Yeah. But like, how do we get an iOS update? Can we, like, turn it off? Turn it on? Just blow in the cartridge of life.

[Mal]

That just work.

[Rory]

That ain't gonna do it.

[Mal]

Yeah. Dog gotta come back for real. Yeah. That's how I looked when I first realized we was in a simulation where just like you.

[Damaris]

The amount of times I said nothing surprised me anymore and meant it. I. I stand here mistaken.

[Mal]

I did.

[Damaris]

I did not think that people would be outside of the Diddy trial pouring baby oil all over themselves.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Well, no, I was surprised to see that.

[Mal]

Well, while we were going. Sean Diddy Combs was found guilty on two counts of transportation, prostitution, to engage in prostitution, and was found not guilty in the more serious charges he was facing RICO with racketeering, conspiracy, Racketeering, conspiracy and sex trafficking. So now he is being held without bond. They were trying to. They were going for, I think they said was 10 million. Yeah, they proposed a 10 million bond. It was denied. Yeah.

[Damaris]

There was a rumor that he remained.

[Mal]

In detention until sentencing, which is October 3rd.

[Damaris]

That's a long time till. Till sentence him.

[Rory]

That's a very.

[Mal]

Yeah. So I think each charge carries 10 years.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Each count carries a maximum sentence of 10 years. But since this is his first charge, he's not a violent. You know, it's a lot of things that. When you look at these federal guidelines, his points and things like that. So he's on the low end of all of these. So he won't. He won't receive the max on any of these charges. So it looks like he'll be home sooner than. Sooner than later.

[Damaris]

So when the verdict came, I initially was like, all right, he'll get. He'll get time served and just get out whenever sentencing is. But when the judge had denied the bond and brought up the Cassie video, and that being a reason why he was not going to get any bail before sentencing, I don't know if this judge is really that fond of puff. Well, I think at first I thought it'd be time, sir, but the way that judge was talking about him, yeah, I think he might get some time.

[Mal]

Well, on top of that, Cassie had. Her and her lawyers had presented a letter to the judge asking that he wasn't released on bond because she was in fear of her safety and things like that. So, you know, the judge had to take that into account as well. Then, obviously, with all of the evidence and, you know, video footage of the incident at the hotel with him. Him assaulting Cassie, the judge, you know, he upheld that and was like, no, I'm not gonna. We're gonna hold him until sentencing. So, I mean, you know, everybody reacted to. A lot of people were surprised. A lot of people weren't surprised. You know, what does this mean for victims? And, you know, wonder why a lot of victims don't come forward and speak and don't, you know, tell their side of the story and keep quiet about a lot of things. Because of things like this, they feel like the abuser or the person that they're alleging to be the abuser. It won't be any consequences. It won't be any. Any, you know, reprimand for the abuser. So, listen, man, you know, a lot of people on different split sides of this thing, but I will say, looking over a lot of these things, because while this was all going on, Rory, we spoke about it. I didn't really pay any attention to the trial as it was happening because there was so many stories online and so many things that weren't true versus things that were. I just wasn't trying to sift through all of that shit. But now, in reading everything, now that the verdict has been handed down, a lot of the things I think they got right, dropping a lot of the charges. We always thought it was weird to have a RICO one, man. RICO was crazy.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Mal]

So a lot of those charges were dropped. But again, you know, maybe, you know, I could see how Cassie feels like justice wasn't served. I mean, you know, again, she went through whatever she went through. She took the stand, told story. Some of the stories she was consenting a consenting act in a lot of the stories. Some of, some of the times she said she didn't feel like getting involved with the quote, unquote freak offs and things like that. So again, you know, the, the trial was laid out in front of a jury of our peers and they found like there wasn't enough there to, you know, find him guilty of racketeering conspiracy. So listen, man, he had his day in court and it is what it is.

[Damaris]

Who needs to go to YouTube jail for a little while is Vlad's freaky ass. Vlad has been interviewing every male prostitute that has had sex with Cassie, Jane Doe, anybody. And cool, I get that. That's going to get a lot of clicks. That's not why I'm saying Vlad's freaky ass needs to go to jail. It's how he's interviewing this men that is the most uncomfortable thing I've ever heard my goddamn life. He's like, so at that point you put the condom on. So how did she rub the oil on you? Like, Vlad, are you hard right now? Why are you asking all these male prostitutes these freaky ass questions that. Shoot, I cut that off. Like, this is like a audio porn. This is weird. And it's Vlad's voice.

[Mal]

Yeah, man, you know, he's doing, he's doing, he's doing the Vlad work, that's all.

[Damaris]

No, I know why Vlad. It's gonna get a bunch of views and people want to hear from these male prostitutes. But like, you know how sometimes Vlad will switch the interviewer and like someone else will interview. Like get a good woman. Just anybody but your voice. Yeah, like he, he wants to know every detail.

[Mal]

The fans pouring, baby, all on the people that was out there doing that. Listen, man, like the, the clout, the clout chasing is like at a different. Because y' all don't care. Like, y'.

[Damaris]

All, you're not really celebrating.

[Mal]

You're not celebrating nothing. You don't care about any of this. Like you just looking for a moment to be on, on video, to make it on somebody's timeline to go viral. Like, it's. I don't know, man, I don't know. But prayers to all of the victims and you know, hopefully if you find peace somewhere. But again, he had his day in court and you got to leave it at that.

[Damaris]

Over the weekend, I was getting a lot of text messages and these are always my favorite ones of hey, Maul was right and I'm like, what was he right about this time? I guess over the weekend, Cardi B. Deleted all her IG posts with Stefon Diggs.

[Mal]

I mean, I. I don't want them flowers, man. That was.

[Damaris]

It was easy. Flowers.

[Mal]

That was too easy, man. That was the easiest. That was the easiest bouquet I ever had.

[Damaris]

About.

[Mal]

Come on, man. That's like.

[Damaris]

And you were definitely right, but we weren't giving you much pushback on the scenario that you laid out of. Like, this isn't gonna last.

[Mal]

No, man, it's you.

[Damaris]

But we were just saying it was fine because she's. You know what I'm just saying now go have fun.

[Mal]

Yeah, have fun. Sentient adults. Do what y' all do. I don't give a fuck. But I just get. You know, when people on the timeline get so caught up in these moments and these things, and they start dropping these think pieces around, I'm just like. That's where I just laugh. Like, have y' all not seen this movie before? Cause I've seen it on vhs, on dvd, on Blu Ray. Like, I've seen it on everything.

[Damaris]

I've seen it myself because I've done it.

[Mal]

Yeah. Like, it's just like, listen, we know what this is. This is just to get the timeline riled up. I mean, they had fun together. And who knows? And why we sitting? Somebody who knows. Cardi may have deleted it. They could still very much be. Yeah, they could be laying next to each other while she's deleting all these pictures. Like, it doesn't mean much. I mean, it is what it is. But, you know, if they're not together, if they not, you know, decided that they're not gonna, you know, be intimate anymore. So what?

[Damaris]

What, they hit two months, three months? Those are the best relationships anyways.

[Mal]

Yeah. I mean, as soon as the Knicks lost, I knew it was over. Like, you know, they couldn't go to.

[Damaris]

Court and, you know, twerking with hoes.

[Mal]

Well, that's an everyday thing in Miami.

[Damaris]

New version of a knickking.

[Mal]

Yeah, but, I mean, I can't take those flowers. I don't want those flowers. But hopefully Cardi is happy. Hopefully Stephon is getting ready for his season. Listen, man. Two consenting adults. Have fun, man. Live your life.

[Rory]

Speaking of hoes in Miami, off topic, Rory. I hit up our mutual friend who's from Miami, and I was trying to acquire hoes for a boat. I'm like, yo, gonna have a boat.

[Mal]

See, that's how your ass you see. You see, Baby D, you gonna sit back and you gonna find your ass on center street in the middle of a. You gonna be in a one woman. Rico, sit your. Stop calling, looking for hoes for a boat. All right?

[Rory]

I didn't want them. I didn't want them to use their bodies. I just wanted pretty women on a boat. That's not illegal. So I hit her. I'm like, hey.

[Mal]

And there are different laws in the water. You're right. I see what you did there. Go ahead.

[Damaris]

Anyway, I'm like, hey, you're so close to Cuba.

[Rory]

I want some. We're gonna have a boat. I want some pretty women around, like, you know what I'm saying? I didn't say that they had to do anything. I just said, we want pretty women around on a boat. Because who the fuck wants to go on a boat? And it's just no women. That doesn't make any sense. Women, water, W's. So I call. I hit her. And she was like, okay. She was like, yo, what are you paying?

[Mal]

I was like, whoa, go ahead now. What else you said after that?

[Rory]

I said, wait.

[Mal]

You said FaceTime audio. She was like, they can't record this.

[Damaris]

Tell them I'm lie, by the way.

[Rory]

She was like, well, the women in Miami now are like, used to, like, being paid to be on a boat. I'm like, wait, back in my day, you had the liquor, the food, the niggas with money.

[Mal]

What you mean back in your day? It's still your day, you fucking 30 years old.

[Damaris]

It's very day.

[Mal]

What are you talking about?

[Damaris]

No, but like, back when.

[Rory]

Back when you were one of the pretty women that were getting solicited to just hang out on a boat. When I was like, what, 19? 20, 21. I'm 31 years old. I'm not like, nobody's hitting my old ass up to just go hang on a fucking boat. And we used to.

[Damaris]

We used to call those things parties.

[Rory]

Parties?

[Damaris]

Yeah, like, you can't have those no more.

[Mal]

I don't know if you know, Rory. You can't have parties now.

[Damaris]

It has to actually be like a bound contract. Here. Here's a form of. Well, actually, isn't that prostitution?

[Mal]

No.

[Damaris]

Remember when people was like, yeah, let's just go for like the social aspect of it.

[Mal]

Remember the mixers?

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Oh, I love a good mix.

[Mal]

Those are finished. Those are over with.

[Damaris]

Yeah. Women in Miami just being used to being paid to stand. Like, I can't even blame them. All the men in Miami. This is your. This is your fault.

[Mal]

Yeah, man. That was responsible for all of this. A bunch of suckers out here.

[Damaris]

Like what you're paying for a woman to just be there. I'm not a judging people paying for sex.

[Rory]

Hey, hey, don't. Hey.

[Damaris]

What I'm with.

[Mal]

Pay women for everything, but pay women for everything.

[Rory]

I ain't doing it.

[Mal]

But that's how Puff ended up in trash. See, that's what I'm saying.

[Rory]

That's completely different.

[Mal]

Is it? I don't know if it is.

[Damaris]

Is.

[Mal]

I just don't know if it is, is all I'm saying. I don't know. I don't know. We just watched the trial. I don't know if it's. If it's different. I don't know. That's all I'm saying.

[Damaris]

There used to be movies like Love Don't Cost a Thing where we realized Nick Cannon looked like a clown because he paid a woman to be his girlfriend. Now that is the. That now that's the standard. Now that's love.

[Mal]

Yeah, man. I mean, it's just a different time, man, you know? Yo, but different time.

[Damaris]

I don't care if I had all the money in the world again paying for sex. I can.

[Mal]

I see that.

[Damaris]

I get that. That's the oldest. That's the oldest job on earth, but to pay a woman to just come to your party is the most insane thing I've ever heard.

[Rory]

You know what I. What? So what I was saying to her hypothetically, if this was a real scenario, I said, oh, they must be, because they. I think they're expecting to when they go on the boat.

[Damaris]

Got you. Oh, there's no way. That's a good old, you know, fashion prostitution.

[Rory]

Yeah, Like, I think you go on. I think you get paid because we had a conversation with our other mutual friend who has a podcast about when her. When she went on vacation with her man and they bought a bunch of women with them. And it was like, hey, we're bringing up. We're paying these women to come on vacation. Some of them might get, some of them might not. But they know that there is a good chance they're gonna get.

[Mal]

I'm like, okay, buys another RICO coming. There's another one on the get. Brian still on the phone. It's another one.

[Damaris]

Don't get him on the phone.

[Mal]

It's another one on the way. You is called getting caught up. See, that's why. I don't know. I'm flying nothing out now. Get there.

[Rory]

No, we wouldn't fly in them out. Them hoes live there.

[Mal]

Yeah, but I Am I don't, don't, don't come around me. I ain't make no calls. Nah, I don't know you no mall name ain't in. I don't know none of these hoes on this boat. I'm here for the pineapple juice. And they said we were playing spades.

[Damaris]

And what's even crazier, because I guess it's state lines that really make it trafficking. Right?

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Like, I work in New York and live in New Jersey. I traffic every day.

[Mal]

Hey, yo, tell the jury, hypothetically. Don't tell me that. Tell the jury that he gonna be on a one man free go, too.

[Damaris]

No, I was in the Holland Tunnel. No, no, I just live over here. That's a state line, sir. Yeah, she was my girlfriend. Yeah, still trafficked.

[Rory]

Okay, but we. I know we making jokes, but we're also not going to downplay sex trafficking. We ain't doing that.

[Mal]

I know. No.

[Rory]

Okay, just make.

[Mal]

Oh, no.

[Rory]

I want the audience and everybody else to be sure that y' all are not. Y' all joking. Kiki Ken. But sex trafficking is a real thing.

[Mal]

So we know sex trafficking is a real thing. But if I fly you to Turks with me and we Turks, I better not get a call. I'm a year later talking about I'm on trial for sex trafficking because I flew a to Turks and had sex. That is crazy.

[Damaris]

No, it's absolutely insane.

[Mal]

That can be considered sex trafficking.

[Rory]

Well, that will know because that's not.

[Mal]

What he sex trafficking, to me, I always thought was a grab his bistro in a white van and she's kicking and screaming. And you. That's what I thought sex trafficking was. I did not know that if you.

[Damaris]

If you pay for daddy sex trafficking.

[Mal]

Yeah. I didn't know if you paid for a woman to go on vacation and have sex with her.

[Rory]

Okay.

[Mal]

That she may then turn around and press charges.

[Rory]

Let's use this case as an example. Diddy is not going to jail or. Or not being a kid.

[Mal]

I'm not even talking about that. I'm talking about what sex trafficking is.

[Rory]

Yes, but to an extent. But they're not going to come after you for that. They're coming after Diddy because Diddy was flying prostitutes to and fro, not a girl you're just seeing or a girl that likes you. Prostitution itself is illegal. And then to transfer.

[Mal]

Depends on what state you.

[Rory]

Okay. And then to transport the illegal prostitute is a whole nother charge. So I don't think that that's wild to say. Where People are like, oh my God, this is a. People like you can't pay for hoes. No. Prostitution is illegal in the United and the majority of the United States. It's always been that way, like until.

[Mal]

The government could find a way to.

[Rory]

Tax them until until then. But they haven't done it yet. So therefore the hoes are still illegal.

[Mal]

Yes. Yeah.

[Damaris]

I mean a lot of people blew that out of proportion of with this trial that Diddy was being arrested for sex trafficking for having consensual sex with somebody by just flying them to Miami or flying them la. That's not what it was.

[Mal]

No, I didn't. Again, when this whole trial was happening, I really didn't keep up with all of the shit that was going on. But from day one I was just off the video of, you know, Cassie in the hotel. I was, I was cool. Yeah, like that was it for me. I was just like, ah, yeah, I can't, I can't support him no more. Like that's, that was just disgusting to see that. Anything else that happened after that, I. Listen, I'm catching up to it now that the verdict is in and the trial is over. Like I'm now reading up on that. I was not keeping up with it during the trial, but a one man Rico to me was always kind of just weird is all I'll say.

[Damaris]

I do want to put Josh on blast real quick. Just in a pre production way. He had added the carnival cruises changed their rules. So I clicked it because I was interested. And then under that he said, are the new rules anti black? And I want to say that Josh, that Josh, okay, I want to say that Damaris is racist because look at the new rules. Drug enforcement, youth curfew, Bluetooth speaker ban, drink package enforcement, reduce music genre options.

[Mal]

Okay, so yeah, some of you be playing whack music on them loud ass Bluetooth speakers. I agree with that.

[Rory]

The reason why I said that little follow up tidbit is because that is the rhetoric and the conversation that is happening on social media right now. People are asking are people are insinuating that Carnival has gotten a little bit too ghetto. It's been known as like the party boat and they want to cut down on that.

[Mal]

So for example, Damaris, it's okay to say niggas ruin everything.

[Rory]

I'm not going to say that.

[Mal]

What I will say is niggas ruin everything.

[Rory]

What I will.

[Mal]

I hate when you niggas find a new restaurant in the city. I hate when you niggas find a new lounge in the city. I hate when you niggas find a new designer clothes. And I hate you niggas. Go ahead, Damaris. I'm sorry.

[Rory]

Okay. I'm so happy you were able to get that off your chest. I was just going to point out to Rory the rules that people are taking as being anti black. Number three, fan restrictions. Handheld non battery fans are now prohibited partly due to safety concerns surrounding the viral with em fans. That which is a black line dance.

[Damaris]

I have no idea what that is.

[Rory]

It. It's a black line dance. Okay, that. That stemmed from the south, all right?

[Mal]

I don't think the youth curfew is. Nothing's wrong with that. Guest 17 under must not leave. Must leave public spaces by 1am unless accompanied by a. I'm not mad at that. Guess 17 and under. I'm not mad at that.

[Damaris]

I'm shocked that wasn't already there.

[Mal]

Yeah, that's why I'm not mad at that.

[Rory]

I agree. I'm just the ones that are anti black.

[Mal]

I'm pointing fan restriction. I don't know what that fan is. I don't. I have no idea what that is. If it's hot, I can't hold the fan.

[Rory]

I just explained it. It's the. There's a. The fans. The handheld fans. Not the battery ones. The handheld fans. There's a line dance called Where Them Fans at that requires the flicking of those fans. That is why that random ass rule is there. That is why people are saying they're being anti black. Where Them Fans at is a black line dance that came from the South. It's gone super viral recently. And that is why that. That new rule is on there. That is anti black.

[Mal]

Okay. That's anti black. Okay.

[Rory]

Reduce music genre options. Though not officially banned, hip hop and rap appear to have been quietly removed from the ship playlist. DJs are also declining guest requests now.

[Mal]

All right, well, this is simple. This is a simple fix. The marriage don't support Carnival cruises no more.

[Rory]

Yeah, I feel like that's easier. I don't know why y' all going on cruises anyway.

[Mal]

Watch how fast these food changes. They gonna have Little John DJ the next cruise. Yeah, that's all you gotta do.

[Damaris]

That was probably the whites, though.

[Mal]

For sure.

[Damaris]

The white. The whites. A Carnival cruise with Lil John. Whites are selling that out expediently.

[Mal]

Yeah, I saw Little John in Vegas. Me and my boy was only black ones in the room.

[Rory]

White people love Little John.

[Damaris]

Yeah, that was the Vegas. Yeah. You said it was a great show though, right?

[Mal]

Incredible. I Couldn't believe Little John was up there doing all that. That was incredible.

[Damaris]

Lil John in Vegas might be the whitest thing I've ever heard.

[Mal]

Oh, no, it was incredible, though, though. Incredible. His set was incredible.

[Damaris]

No, Lil John's a legend. I definitely would have liked to see that residency.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

What? Like, I cannot believe the place didn't burn down. When shots came. Came on.

[Mal]

No, like, that is.

[Damaris]

That's a white anthem. It's really like the national anthem. And then shots, shots, shot, shots. Like, that's. That's us.

[Mal]

It's like that. And Bon Jovi, for whites are like, yeah, for sure. Neck and neck. Like, y' all lose y' all when y' all hear shots. And then Bon Jovi. Yeah, yeah.

[Damaris]

Journey's up there, too.

[Mal]

Yeah. Oh, God.

[Damaris]

Love Journey.

[Mal]

Are you kidding me? It's incredible.

[Damaris]

You know, it's funny. I don't think there's such thing as South Detroit.

[Mal]

South Detroit.

[Damaris]

It's like, if you look at the city of Detroit, I've always wondered this from that Journey. So where is South Detroit?

[Mal]

Oh, man.

[Damaris]

Because isn't it like Canada right there?

[Mal]

You're right.

[Damaris]

Yeah. Sorry. Journey. You can't be born and raised in South Detroit.

[Mal]

It. Yeah.

[Damaris]

Just a city boy. There's no city. There's no you and you in the river.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Mall. They're saying that summer 2025 is the summer of love. That's what the streets are saying.

[Mal]

I think they say that every summer.

[Damaris]

Yeah, but I mean, this is for real. This is really it. Yeah, but that's not going to happen. If you don't knock it out of the park, she's not going to love you. That's what just facts is. Facts.

[Mal]

That's a fact.

[Damaris]

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[Mal]

I like that. 15 minutes. That's a good window. Yeah. Good window. Yeah.

[Damaris]

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[Mal]

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[Mal]

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[Mal]

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[Mal]

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[Mal]

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[Mal]

You've got mail. We do.

[Damaris]

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[Mal]

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[Damaris]

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[Mal]

Hey, what's going on? Royal Mall and the rest of the crew. I enjoy the show. I'm gonna make this and just get to the point. What is the cool or proper way to accept, you know, a compliment that you're sexy or good looking from your significant other, or in my case, my wife. Like, you know, like when I would get the oh, you look good, you look sexy compliments, I would just say, thank you, but apparently that's not enough, mainly because I guess something about my tone sounded, you know, not genuine. So then I went over the top and when she says, oh, you look good sexy, blah, blah, I'm just like, oh, you know, hey, don't threaten me with a good time. You know, this all for you, blah, blah, blah. And that didn't work neither. So now I got to the point to where my wife was like, hey, man, I think, you know, you're kind of indifferent when it comes to me giving you compliments, so I'm gonna stop giving you compliments. And I thought she was bluffing, but as a result, she followed through with me. I, you know, I walk around with my shirt off, pause and all that, and nothing. She followed through with it. And, you know, reason why I'm saying what's the cool way to do it is because, you know, she's kind of sad about it because she's like, you know, I guess receiving compliments or words of affirmation just. Is it your love language? And, you know, me being a husband, I would really like to try to make her happy and fix that. So, yeah, what's the right way to accept a. Your sexy compliment. Damn, your wife stopped complimenting you. Yeah, I'm thinking I'm stuck. Yeah, I'm stuck there. Like, that's like, yeesh. I don't know, man. That's not a. It's not a good sign when wifey stop complimenting you.

[Rory]

Yeah, well, she, she did explain why she did it. It's not like she just suddenly stopped.

[Mal]

You don't. But yeah, if she holding to it, though, like, she's really not complimenting. That's crazy.

[Damaris]

Even if you don't take compliments.

[Mal]

Yeah, she said it. All right. I cool. I get that. But she's, like, holding the line.

[Rory]

Yeah. She being. She's being petty.

[Mal]

So. Yeah.

[Rory]

I also don't think you should give out compliments just for people to respond the way you want. It. Was the compliment even genuine? At the same. People want. At the same time, when people be like, I did all this shit for you, and it's like, did you do it for me or did you do it for you? Cause it made. You know what I'm saying? Like, I don't. I don't like that. But you can't. To answer your question, you can't. It can't hurt by saying, not as sexy as you or something like that. Or like, oh, thanks, babe. I appreciate that.

[Damaris]

Like, not as sexy as you is a hilarious person. Just reply to a compliment. Yeah.

[Mal]

Like, if your girl tell you, yo, you look sexy, I'm supposed to be like, not as sexy as you.

[Rory]

Yeah, Not. Not as much as you. Like, I'm gonna.

[Mal]

I'm just. That's not. She's gonna. She's gonna know I'm talking, but it's. But it's not a real response.

[Rory]

But it's a. It's not supposed to be serious. It's supposed to be, like, loving, joking.

[Mal]

Like, all for you, buttercup.

[Rory]

Jesus Christ.

[Mal]

I mean, what do you say? That's what I'm saying. Like, you just be back ham out. I don't know what you do once your girl says, I.

[Damaris]

When he asked the question at the end, that was the first thing that.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Like, if my mom was like, whip your dick out.

[Mal]

Yeah. Like, if wifey is complimenting me, I'm like, yo, like, so what you want? You want it right here? You want it right now? You want the two right here?

[Damaris]

Yeah, I'd rather show you a compliment.

[Mal]

Like, I'd rather.

[Rory]

You know.

[Mal]

I mean, like, if we going, oh, yeah, you. You feeling some type of way. Because that's usually what girls do. They flirt. That means y' all horny. You'll start flirting with your significant other. Not, like, see. Cause the marriage be.

[Rory]

I'm like, that's dangerous.

[Mal]

I'm talking about with husband and wife. Wife. Like, if your wife is complimenting you, like, oh, my, you look good. The gym looking good.

[Rory]

I just want to let you could be on your way outside, like, And I just want.

[Mal]

Yeah, but you want him to drop it off before he leave the house. Not.

[Rory]

Not always. Sometimes I just want him to know that he looks good. Whatever, man.

[Damaris]

But women are so petty. Like, their compliments will be backhanded of, like, they know you know you look good, so they're gonna try to shame you to make you feel worse.

[Rory]

But that's what black people do to each other. Oh, that's what anybody does to each other. People you love.

[Damaris]

Okay.

[Rory]

Oh, you got that on. Check you out. You got that. All right, I see you.

[Damaris]

No, I'm saying, like, an actual condescending.

[Mal]

But where I'm from, do that. That means he ain't got that off. Stop, Damaris. If I was to walk outside and the homies be like, yo, you killing them today. That fit is trash. I'm never wearing this again. Yeah, like, never. Like, no one's ever said that to.

[Damaris]

Me and meant it.

[Mal]

Yeah, like, you don't say that to the homies. And. And he really is fresh.

[Rory]

Well, how. How would you say it to the homies if he really fresh?

[Mal]

Like, if my homie is fresh, like, he got up. You just like, okay, all right. It's a good fit. You put that on. Yeah, but you don't be like, okay, like, you know, nah, that means that look crazy. You look like a clown.

[Damaris]

But I feel like that's more like male friendship stuff, I think, with men and women. Like. Like, she'll. She'll get upset when you put on, like. Yeah, if you look good and where you. Like, where the are you going?

[Mal]

Exactly. If you look good.

[Damaris]

That's a woman's compliment. Where are you going?

[Mal]

Yeah, where are you going? What time?

[Damaris]

Oh, I must look good then.

[Mal]

Yeah, exactly. That's all Damaris know. She do that all the time. What I do, if your significant other looks good, do you start asking him where he going if you're not going with him?

[Rory]

Oh, oh, for sure.

[Damaris]

Where you going exactly.

[Mal]

See, that's. That's like the universal who you all dressed up for?

[Damaris]

Yeah, don't get up up.

[Rory]

That's how you know you look good when you hit them with the don't get up.

[Mal]

I'm finna get some hoes. Your girl say, don't get up. Oh, yeah.

[Damaris]

That's when you find someone that'll actually compliment me.

[Rory]

That's why you just gotta look at his following and see how much it goes up that night.

[Mal]

We gotta get away from this.

[Rory]

I don't do it. I'm just saying that the girls do it.

[Mal]

Get out of this. We have to get out of this. This is crazy. What if I tweeted a bomb that day?

[Rory]

I ain't talking about Twitter. I'm talking about ig.

[Mal]

What if I posted a bomb?

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Mal]

That don't mean I. My page is public.

[Rory]

I know who you following now. Who followed you? Who you're following? Who did you go out and follow at. @.

[Mal]

What if I followed. What if I followed a vacation page? You don't know what that one tick was. You don't know all my followers.

[Rory]

If you know your man, you know his followers.

[Mal]

No, you need to get a hobby.

[Rory]

I listen. I have a hobby. I read. I'm saying that this is what women do.

[Damaris]

Yeah, read Instagram.

[Mal]

Read your time. Yeah, that's what y' all do. Y' all read his Instagram.

[Damaris]

Women. Women are so mean. That all the. That they like about you in the beginning is what they end up hating about you. Like, why you look that good? Why you being funny? This how the. I got you.

[Rory]

Yeah, exactly.

[Damaris]

So why should stop.

[Rory]

If you were trying to be funny to get me, why are you continuing.

[Damaris]

To make more ho?

[Mal]

Yeah, like, I wasn't trying to.

[Damaris]

Like, I didn't.

[Mal]

I didn't give you a Netflix special just when I saw you.

[Rory]

First of all, mall, you be giving bitches Netflix specials.

[Mal]

So that's what I do, though. That's just me.

[Damaris]

Yeah, that's 100% of the time. It's not like it.

[Rory]

Mall is a Mall is a Netflix.

[Damaris]

Funny in front of women every time. Yes.

[Rory]

Yes. In front of women. The point.

[Damaris]

He's funny, but he's funnier. Yes. And. But, I mean, that's because he likes women.

[Mal]

I don't think there's not. But, see, but Damaris, you be acting like I be doing that and be like, yo, so what's your number? Like, I don't. See. Don't make it sound like it's nasty.

[Rory]

You always get the number, order for order.

[Mal]

IG all the time. Some. Sometimes.

[Rory]

I mean, 79 of the time.

[Mal]

Yeah, but it's. I. IG is kind of like just a. You know, it's more work and keep up with the show type of thing. Yeah, it's not. I'm not using. I don't use IG for that. That's not.

[Damaris]

No.

[Rory]

Okay.

[Mal]

Nah, that's not. That's not my bag. I've been out of that bag. I don't even post on ig.

[Damaris]

The last three women you Talk to. Of course. Over five to seven years. That's how long it's been.

[Mal]

Gotta be.

[Damaris]

Where did you meet the last three women?

[Mal]

The last three women that I've dated, met.

[Rory]

Slept with. I'm not gonna say dated. Slept with.

[Damaris]

Slept with downtown.

[Mal]

One I've known for. For years, before social media. One I met on Instagram and another one I met through a friend.

[Damaris]

All right, so you've used Instagram, but.

[Mal]

Yeah, but. I know, but I didn't go into that thinking it was going to be like, you know, sometimes it just happens. Like, you don't think about, like, obviously the person's attractive, but I'm not thinking, like, yo, I'm gonna. I'm saying give them my best spiel right now and then hopefully get the draws. Like, no, it just happens, like, best.

[Damaris]

Spiel on at the end.

[Mal]

Yeah, like, you know, I'm gonna give him my best work. Like, nah, it just happens like that sometimes. That's all. I suppose.

[Damaris]

Yeah, I'm trying the last. Yeah, it might be Instagram batting a thousand on my end.

[Mal]

The last two people you slept with.

[Rory]

Not batting a thousand, but.

[Mal]

Because you probably went into it wanting that, though.

[Damaris]

Oh, yeah, for sure.

[Mal]

But see, if you go into it wanting that. Oh, that's it.

[Damaris]

Found the woman attractive idea.

[Mal]

Listen, man, if I had. Bro, listen, if I was. If this was 10 years ago, bro.

[Damaris]

It would be n. Still your day.

[Rory]

Two, it's still your day.

[Damaris]

It's still your day, too.

[Mal]

But I'm. I'm done. Like, I'm. I don't want that.

[Damaris]

Anytime a man says he's done, he is not done whatsoever.

[Mal]

Fishing on social media. I'm definitely done with.

[Damaris]

That's like the guy that says, this is crazy. This is my last. That was my last night drinking. And then by 8pm they drinking again.

[Rory]

But see, my thing is this.

[Mal]

Done fishing on social media.

[Rory]

If you're done fishing on social media and you don't leave your house, you.

[Mal]

Got to come with five referrals.

[Damaris]

That's what the mutual friends are for.

[Mal]

Nah, fuck that. I gotta see you. First of all, I don't even want to see you for the first time via social media. I'm already, like, it might be a lie. She might not look like that. That's off the gate. I don't give a fuck how pretty I think you are. She might not look like that. It gotta be referrals. It gotta be real life. Yo, she cool? Yeah. Nah, she was okay. Yo. Nah, next time we ask you. Yeah, tell her to Come through. Pull up next event. We there like, yo, what's going on? Yeah, Nah, ask the homie about you. Get into real conversation. Like, I don't, but just social media. DMing back. No, no, no.

[Rory]

Hey, ma. I hear what you're saying, right? Yeah. We're gonna kick it. House party. Mutual friend. You don't leave your house.

[Mal]

No, but that would be a reason.

[Rory]

To because the baddie gonna be at the spot. Hell yeah. Now I know how to get you outside.

[Mal]

If it's bad enough.

[Rory]

Problem if it's.

[Mal]

I drove to Montreal, let's not forget.

[Damaris]

But you gotta you, I'm a legend.

[Mal]

You have to pay.

[Damaris]

You have to pay for their existence now. So I love you. Want to go outside Me?

[Mal]

I ain't paying, man. Listen. Yeah, go ahead. Keep paying.

[Damaris]

The free ones on ig.

[Mal]

No, on ig, they got their zel in a bio.

[Damaris]

I'm saying, of course those exist, but there is still a regular group of women on Instagram.

[Mal]

Oh, of course there's always going to be women that are not selling sex everywhere. But I'm just saying, like this. The. The ones that are just getting louder is all I'm saying. It's just they're. They're galvanizing the troops is what they're doing.

[Damaris]

Me and Raven were going through a. Like, a model agency website for. Were video extras, and we thought catfishing was bad before. And we, you know, we. Oh, I feel like we've learned all the tricks. Like, we know we are.

[Mal]

We are in the biggest era they catfishing videos now.

[Damaris]

Okay. They have taken catfishing to AI. The amount of AI women that are on real vetted modeling agencies is absolutely insane. It would blow your mind. They're not even catfished. They're not real.

[Mal]

Yeah, no, that's real. Real. That's a real thing.

[Damaris]

So they'll collect the first deposit to show up. Like, first half, and they'll never show up. They're AI. They're not real. But this wasn't on. Like, we weren't on back page.

[Mal]

No, no, no. Real.

[Damaris]

This is like legitimate model agencies.

[Mal]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Damaris]

That blew my mind. And a lot of them, it's like they're not even trying to hide. Like, me and Raven would start a guest be like, that is 1,000% of AI, girl. That's not a real person.

[Mal]

I.

[Damaris]

We're all doomed.

[Mal]

Yeah, man. So I'm saying you got to be five referrals.

[Damaris]

That's a lot of referrals.

[Rory]

That's a lot of referrals.

[Mal]

Listen, man, Listen, you don't even want.

[Rory]

A girl that you know five people that know her.

[Mal]

You better now. More than that.

[Rory]

I know. I know what. So let me. Let me let y' all know why Mall is feeling like this. Because I got a random DM from all randomly right. Mind you, Maul don't DM me.

[Mal]

That ain't wild. That ain't why.

[Rory]

I don't even think he follows me sometimes. Okay?

[Mal]

So.

[Rory]

Bad, bitch. I'm like, damn.

[Damaris]

By your follower account.

[Rory]

I'm like, damn, who this? Like, who you like? Who you send it to me? He was like, that's a man. I said, what, Ma? He like, that is a trans woman. Like, that is. She was not born female. I'm like, how you know?

[Mal]

I love that she's giving y' all the PC version of what I said. Because that's not what I said, but I understand. I love the marriage.

[Damaris]

You said it that way.

[Mal]

I love Damaris for, like, you know, buffering after.

[Rory]

I like having a job, but that.

[Mal]

Ain'T what I said.

[Rory]

I like having. I got a new apartment.

[Damaris]

I think for one second, you use the proper pronoun, you know? You know what?

[Mal]

I went in there with Rory. You know, I led with that one. Yeah. Nah. Yeah, I had to Damaris up with that one.

[Rory]

She was bad, though. She was bad.

[Damaris]

Wait, so you posted, like, how did this conversation even start?

[Mal]

No, I just sent video. I sent it a video of. Of the transgender woman. There you go. And was waiting for her to just. You know, because Damaris is horny. You see pretty women. She just.

[Damaris]

You know, first of all, Damaris thought you were sounding like a lick. Yeah, I'm gonna put you on my homegirl.

[Rory]

I said, she bad. Why you send me this? And then he, you know, he said, people out here getting tricked. Shaking my head. I'm gonna ignore. You know, I said, mall. Wait, how you know? He like, my homegirl in Atlanta knows her. And I'm like, oh, wow, he's bad.

[Mal]

The game is ice cold. I've seen When I say the game is ice cold. Now know that.

[Damaris]

That's why it is crazy.

[Mal]

I happy five referrals. I need to speak to your fifth grade teacher. I want to see your report card from kindergarten. I want to see it all. Yeah. That.

[Damaris]

The timeline is more progressive. Do you remember the old Twitter days when there was a photo of a transgender woman? She looked very attractive and lowkey. Put. Put mad heart eye emojis and retweeted it.

[Rory]

Oh, king.

[Damaris]

And then.

[Rory]

And then I forgot her Name.

[Damaris]

For the next three days, the whole timeline was killing low. Like, murdering. I mean, that would never happen in this time.

[Mal]

But, like, you get caught out there killing him. That's how you get caught. That's how you get caught. Five referrals, Josh, I need to know five people that know you. That.

[Damaris]

I mean, but you could just. You could find out yourself.

[Mal]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

[Damaris]

Joshua, you could just ask.

[Mal]

Just that. See that I am not.

[Damaris]

I am progressive. But that would be a wild. And imagine if you were wrong, like, you're trying to. Transgender woman. Right?

[Rory]

No.

[Mal]

Say it was so much conviction.

[Rory]

Right?

[Damaris]

That's like. Like, that's like rubbing a fat woman's stomach thinking she pregnant.

[Mal]

Type of damaris. Would you be offended if a guy asked you that?

[Rory]

If I've been asked before.

[Damaris]

Really? Really.

[Rory]

Not in person, but over social media. I've been told I look like a trans plenty of times. I'm dead. At least three times.

[Mal]

Php. Hold on.

[Rory]

I'm being dead serious.

[Mal]

Hold on.

[Damaris]

Wait. But how do they ask you? Yeah, like.

[Rory]

Well, some. Some people have commented it, and they weren't, like, being, like, rude. They were being serious. And then some people have, like, DM'd me. Nobody who's ever seen me in person, but sometimes when I take photos, my features look very sharp. And that's kind of like I have, like, I have a sharp chin. Or, like, when I was skinnier and I had a sharper jawline.

[Mal]

People hit you and asked if you.

[Damaris]

Were born, did you have birthday makeup on?

[Rory]

Shut up, stupid. No, but this, again, this was when I was a lot smaller. My cheeks were not as round. My face was a lot more cut. Yeah, but in person, that's never happened to me. Because in person.

[Mal]

But even your pictures, though, I don't. I would never assume that from your pictures.

[Rory]

Some people. Some people have.

[Mal]

See, I take it as a compliment.

[Rory]

Trans women usually are. Like, one of the ways to point out trans women is they're a little bit too pretty. It's almost like you have two. It's. You're too perfect. You're too, like, put together. So I don't. I don't mind. It's like, oh, you think I have pretty masculine features? That's fine. Yeah.

[Damaris]

Have any of them found out you weren't transgender and then was like, no.

[Rory]

No. Some just didn't respond. And someone was like, okay, I didn't mean to be disrespectful. I was just wondering.

[Damaris]

I was just one. That's a wild thing. To wonder.

[Rory]

Yeah. I don't take offense.

[Mal]

So you gotta ask.

[Rory]

These days, people don't be telling me.

[Mal]

No, no, no, listen. 100. You should ask. But I don't. I don't. The marriage. Don't. I would never look at a marriage picture and think that, though. That's just. That's odd. Well.

[Damaris]

I think you should just find out on your own. I think it's a better story.

[Mal]

Y' all don't want me to find out on my own.

[Rory]

Ma.

[Mal]

It'll be a this. I'm just saying everything goes away. All of this is gone. All of this is. All of this goes away. Everything we've worked.

[Rory]

That's what I'm saying. I like having a job. So that's why when I described our very helpful. Our very healthy, like, PG conversation that we had.

[Mal]

Yeah, of course.

[Rory]

Where you use all the right pronouns.

[Damaris]

And stuff, like, yeah, yeah, they didn't use a word that could also be a car part. Like, yeah, I know Ma would never do that.

[Mal]

Cigarette in the uk. I don't know. Is what it is.

[Damaris]

A little too on the nose to figure that, like, at least my mechanic one is going to take a while for people to realize it.

[Rory]

Jesus Christ.

[Damaris]

You just. You pretty much just said it.

[Mal]

Do we have another voicemail?

[Rory]

Josh just came in. Okay. Hey, guys. I was just calling in with some relationship question. I met a guy. We were talking for a few weeks. We saw each other a couple of times, but it was hard to really kind of make a date. We finally had a date and. And we hooked up. And the next day I thought because he was so sweet and so, like, letting me know he had a good time talking to me and things like that, that I would just, like, match his energy to let him know that I had a fun time seeing him and being with him. And he wrote me back kind of like, oh, yeah, it was fun. And suddenly I felt like I could feel the shift. And so I'm kind of wondering, like, is that a form of game to, like. I know, I know, like, sweet talking and stuff is that. But to kind of lay it on thick to make someone feel so comfortable that they can, like, speak their mind. And now I'm kind of wondering, like, did I just get played? Like, he got what he wanted and, you know, everything went just to get me there and, like, if, like, that's what guys do, because I definitely feel like I just, like, I feel so thrown off by, like, post hookup, what's going on. But anything you guys can say, thank you.

[Mal]

If you talked anything like that, then I would have disappeared, too, after I I and you what, man, we all thinking it. All right? It. I'm gonna just stop saying all right, go ahead.

[Damaris]

No, no, I. I was thinking, poor baby. How old is this woman?

[Mal]

Oh, no, that's a grown woman.

[Damaris]

Did she lose her virginity with that hookup?

[Mal]

No, she probably was talking.

[Damaris]

Feel like at a a early age, women learned that there could be times when a guy acts like the nicest person that he wants to, like, really date you, and then you finally let him be, and then you don't hear from him. Yeah, like, how many movies have we seen?

[Rory]

If a ask you at dinner, yo, what type of man you like, don't tell him. That will morph like the mask into whoever the you say.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Oh, I've met plenty. I've gone right to the bathroom, washed my face, came back a whole new every time, read a couple articles in the bathroom, act like I know what we talk, hold the conversation like, no, the Dems are out of control. Rory. I'll get into that.

[Damaris]

Then she go to your IG page like it's a completely different guy.

[Mal]

Yeah, man, sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do, man. Listen, it's called game, Damaris is what it's called. Run game. Y' all run game, too. Y' all act like y' all like a till y' all get that Chanel bag.

[Rory]

No, why would you act like you like him till you get the Chanel bag? You gonna want another one, Mom. Use your common sense.

[Mal]

Nah, but he ain't gonna get you another one. He ain't got it like that. That one sent him back a year and a half. Hey, Baby D. That one set him back like a kid's gonna be eating cereal for about three months.

[Damaris]

And why am I buying a snow bag if I already beat?

[Mal]

Yeah, yeah, if I beat already. Yeah.

[Damaris]

I'm not buying you a Chanel bag.

[Mal]

Yeah, if I did, did or didn the out of here. But back to this young lady. Yes, it sounds like he got what he wanted. Don't beat yourself up too much about it. Like, it. It happens. It is what it is. You know, just brush yourself off and get back in the game, man. That's all.

[Rory]

Yeah, that really is what you got to do. Like, I. It'll be all right. There will be another.

[Mal]

Now, what you do is the next time, the next date you going, you say, hey, listen, the last time I did this, I gave him some, and he disappeared.

[Rory]

Don't do that.

[Mal]

Don't do That I do that. Don't do that. You let him put it out there. That's the problem. Nobody want to be real no more. It's 20, 25, baby. Everybody shut the up and be real. If you ain't being real, shut the up. Go back into the dating pool and let them know, hey, the last I gave some, he started acting weird after he. And he disappeared. And then the next one of you I give some to if you disappear, I'm calling rape.

[Rory]

Oh, Mike.

[Mal]

Yeah. Scared these baby d scamming, thinking that the cops gonna show up, act right when they think the police coming.

[Damaris]

Somebody said that we wouldn't make it to the appetizer. Yeah, man, I think I would call rape.

[Mal]

Yeah. Nah, but she. I mean it. Could there be a reason he disappeared?

[Rory]

Ma, I just.

[Mal]

I'm just asking.

[Rory]

You don't took seven ways.

[Mal]

I'm just. Because we. We don't. We don't have enough info.

[Damaris]

Yes, we do this. Let's not overthink this. You got got. The game is the game.

[Mal]

The game is like. But why did he just. Because she said he was cool.

[Damaris]

He probably just wanted to beat because.

[Rory]

He probably just wanted to beat that. You know how do beat sometimes think they want more. They beat and they be like, yeah, I really just wanted to beat, like.

[Mal]

And sometimes you want to beat. You beat and you be like, damn, I think I love this bitch.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Yeah. Sometimes that is. How often has that happened to you?

[Mal]

A few times.

[Rory]

Yeah. Out of all the 3 million times.

[Damaris]

You done stuck, your Dicky said, I think I love this. A week later, you're right.

[Mal]

I've definitely been in the bed with a girl like months after, I just was like, I'm gonna just hit it and that's it. And she'd be sleeping. I'd be like, she's still here.

[Damaris]

God damn.

[Mal]

She's this been me and this bitch watching First 48 together. All kinds of shit. Like, you still here. I planned to hit and then that was it. Like, you and you cool. You all right. Look at you.

[Rory]

You my longest relationship.

[Mal]

You actually pretty cool. You watch the same I watch. You know what I'm saying? Like Kobe fan. Okay.

[Rory]

That's a ninja cuff. I love when a think he going to beat and leave and then he beat and fall in love, and next thing you know, we in a relationship. You a met my mother.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Yeah. That's how all my relationships have been.

[Mal]

Yeah. Sometimes it happens that way. Like, you be like, n. I'm going just go ahead and hit it and get out of there. And then you look up, and y' all done spent four holidays together. Yeah, that's the year.

[Damaris]

That's the year, baby.

[Mal]

Four holidays of the year. That's the year. We got Memorial, Labor Day, Thanksgiving, Christmas.

[Damaris]

But. And Valentine's Day.

[Mal]

Yeah, but now we leave, Josh. We leave before that. We don't spend that together.

[Damaris]

Either leave before or you start after.

[Mal]

Yeah, Christmas, get the gifts, you go into the New Year's.

[Rory]

Why are you so against Valentine's Day? Like, what is it?

[Damaris]

Because it's another chore for me.

[Rory]

Okay?

[Mal]

Chocolate. That y' all want to go out. First of all, I live in New York City. You know how hard it is to get a reservation in New York City?

[Rory]

Not if you make it in January. You've been her since. I don't know what I want to.

[Mal]

Eat in February and January, baby. D. You want me to make a reservation for February? January 1st?

[Rory]

No, I didn't say January 1st. You could make it January 25th.

[Mal]

Nah, that two weeks you got New York City fucked up.

[Rory]

Yeah, I know.

[Mal]

N come to New York for Valentine's Day. Yeah, I know.

[Rory]

I don't know why they.

[Damaris]

And why would you want to go out on the night that everybody's going to out?

[Mal]

Like, you can't say that, because then that means you don't want to be seen with them on a day that everybody's out with their love.

[Damaris]

I don't want to sit in traffic.

[Mal]

I don't want to rest.

[Damaris]

Don't want to.

[Mal]

You're using logic. You got to use love. But it doesn't have sitting in. In the Lincoln Tunnel on Valentine.

[Rory]

No, y' all keep bringing up. Y' all keep bringing up restaurants. There's so much other and things that you can do for somebody that you care about.

[Mal]

Y' all can't IG that.

[Damaris]

Yeah, that's really.

[Mal]

Y' all want to go to the same restaurant all these they go to.

[Rory]

I actually never want to go to a restaurant on Valentine's Day. Do not take me to a restaurant Valentine's Day. I have to do, like.

[Mal]

Well, you want to go on Valentine's Day? Do something you're gonna want to eat, baby.

[Rory]

D. But you can do, like, for example, for a Valentine's Day, I had somebody. We ordered really expensive food in, but you got me really nice gifts, and we spent the whole day together. Like, I don't feel like you're hiding me because we didn't go out. We have common sense.

[Mal]

But, y'.

[Damaris]

All, what did you do for him?

[Rory]

You said what?

[Damaris]

What'd you do for him?

[Rory]

I got him a gift too. Okay, what about me? What about me? Sorry. I'm sorry.

[Mal]

Yes. You see, you feel good now, right? You felt the serotonin? Did you feel the release? Did you feel it hit your brain? Did you feel it, Baby D? Yes.

[Damaris]

She's saying that though. But I know what the gift was because women think is a gift.

[Rory]

It was not. It was not. It was not. It was an actual gift. I spent money on, I spent over 300 on it.

[Damaris]

You just got expensive wax.

[Mal]

She bought that roll with his name on it.

[Damaris]

First of all, 100%.

[Mal]

Why is that a women go to. I know my name. I don't need to know that. This is my robe in my house. This is my house, Everything, it is mine. Don't put my name on my robe.

[Damaris]

I still have in a last relationship. I got two rows, my name on it.

[Mal]

They sat.

[Damaris]

They are still collecting dust in the house. Like I, I'm not wearing.

[Mal]

I got a nice robe with my name on it and I've never worn.

[Damaris]

I'm not a robe person.

[Mal]

It's actually a really nice robe, but I feel like I would have to be. I can't be in my house with that robe. That's like a robe where I gotta be on vacation. Cause it's like so flamboyant. Like if you was to come to the crib and I had that robe on, Baby D, like, what the fuck he got going?

[Damaris]

I feel dressed like Nino Brown.

[Mal]

Yeah. Like, it's like a flamboyant. It's dope, but it's like I gotta be like on vacation. Really? Like in my bag. Like, no, I'm being extra. Like I gotta know that I'm being extra. I can't be at the home, at the crib, just chillin with that on.

[Damaris]

Bringing a robe on vacation to me is kinda sick too. You wasting a lot of suitcase space for a robe.

[Mal]

So that's why it's like I never wore it. But it's, you know, it's, it's, it's nice though. It's a really nice robe though.

[Rory]

Okay, so since we're on this subject before we wrap up, what gifts would y' all like to get from women? Because y' all are complaining about. Y' all complain when women don't get y' all gifts now. Y' all complaining about the gift that women get y'. All. So what would y' all want?

[Damaris]

What is.

[Rory]

Y' all love language when it comes to gifting? What Would you want from a woman? A woman you've been seeing, let's say six months.

[Mal]

Something. Something that adds to the aesthetic of my crap crib. Something that nice. Oh, you like. You use a nice plant right there. You could use a nice painting right there. You could use a nice, you know, something like that where it's like, like, yo, I like this space right here. Just add something. Boom. Like. All right, we'll get it.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Okay.

[Mal]

Like that.

[Damaris]

Rory, Gift of silence.

[Rory]

Rory, I'm being serious.

[Mal]

I'm dead.

[Rory]

I know you are.

[Damaris]

Be left alone for.

[Mal]

I heard those are sold out.

[Damaris]

Those on back order plummeting on the Dow.

[Mal]

I ordered that now to get that.

[Damaris]

That's like that Wu Tang album that couldn't get it.

[Mal]

It's never. We're never getting.

[Damaris]

I. I don't know gift wise, I don't want to steal Maul's answer, but definitely something for the crib is. Is always important. Maybe a new lock because I locked myself out and I had to go locksmith and he drilled through a of lot lock. That had been a nice gift.

[Mal]

No, you just. You're just autistic. You need the keys around your neck like the keychain.

[Damaris]

I actually this is the first time I ever locked myself out and it was because my garage.

[Mal]

Did you have a code for you?

[Damaris]

So usually why docs myself saying I keep my garage door open on one side, but my garage door broke. So I locked up everything. Like triple lock manual. And I was late for the airport. So when I walked out, I shut the door.

[Mal]

I was like, you knew it.

[Damaris]

And the way like I always have another way to get in and all that was completely locked up. So I was like, well, there goes that drilled right to 275$.

[Mal]

Yeah, you better believe it.

[Rory]

So you don't know what the you want, but you expect women to know what you want. Got it.

[Damaris]

Yeah. Yeah. No, that's how you guys think. We have to read your mind and know everything.

[Rory]

A woman will post what she wants on either IG or Twitter 50 million times throughout the year. You know exactly what the that girl wants. Especially a woman that's dating somebody. The moment I date somebody, I literally become tick tock shop. I don't do but that I want on the Internet.

[Mal]

Why?

[Rory]

And all women do because I'm throwing you hints. Buy it.

[Mal]

I don't want me hints on social media. You know how crazy I'm right here next to you.

[Rory]

Okay.

[Mal]

You know how crazy that is?

[Rory]

I'll text it to their phones too. But the really important thing.

[Mal]

Oh, you send it like. Like, it's like a. Like if you're sending like a real or something, like. Oh, look at this.

[Rory]

Yes, exactly.

[Mal]

Got you. Okay.

[Damaris]

I don't know. You got a vacation? Me? That's my worst.

[Rory]

You can't even go on vacation. I tried to plan a vacation for us earlier. We couldn't even plan a vacation. You can't even go on vacation.

[Mal]

No, we had planned a vacation.

[Rory]

Long story short, Rory don't know what the he want. Maul wants plants and ash.

[Damaris]

I would love.

[Mal]

I would love something aesthetic of the crib. Just something like, I don't. I don't need. I don't know if a girl. What do you want? I just. I never sit back and think about what do I need or what do I want. As crazy as that sounds like, I don't think about that. Not until it's like, I need something. Like, I don't have one. Like. And then I'm like, I gotta get one.

[Rory]

Would you accept flowers from a woman?

[Mal]

Woman?

[Damaris]

Hell, yeah. Yeah, we know you would.

[Mal]

I would.

[Rory]

I would.

[Damaris]

Call me that word.

[Rory]

Okay. I've given flowers to a man before. He threw them in the trash. He said, what am I supposed to do with these terrible person.

[Mal]

Jesus.

[Damaris]

This isn't a gift per se, but Kia got me an insane discount for all my new pots and pans. Like, I thought that was a nice.

[Mal]

That's. That's a good gift.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

And it like some serious pots and pans.

[Mal]

I have an induction stove. Didn't know that you can just not use any pot on that type of stove. Had no clue. Pop the whole. Woke up the next day, I had a whole new cookware set in my. In my. My mail room. I like, like that. Okay.

[Rory]

So that you need y'. All. Y', all really.

[Damaris]

And I'll even give you a compliment here. Women are smarter than men with. With so much stuff. If I'm just saying something in conversation. I've had women, like, go on Amazon and send me something that would fix the exact problem I'm having, even if that was like, $10 or whatever. Like, that type of stuff is appre.

[Mal]

Look, we're men, so my shower. My is on the floor, like, in the back, not getting wet. Came over one day. She bought me, like, these shower racks for inside the shower. Oh, my God.

[Rory]

You know, it's so crazy when women do like that. Yes, we are thinking of you, but it's like, it's also making our life easier, too.

[Mal]

Oh, I literally Only have my loofah, my face wash and body wash. Everything else is female products. In my shower, I'm just like, okay.

[Rory]

Yeah. Because I like, that's some. I do that with gift giving.

[Mal]

Yourself smelling like, what's that? You start reading like, what's that? Like, that's nice.

[Rory]

Yeah. I'm one of those people where I buy gifts for people based on like, when I come to your house, I'm gonna need. So for example, whenever couples get married, I'm getting them really good wine. Like Tiffany wine glasses and champagne glasses. Because when I come there, that's what I'm going to use.

[Mal]

I got that as a gift before.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Some wine. Some nice wine glass.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Like that's.

[Rory]

That's the type of stuff that I buy people because I'm selfish.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

I had a woman buy me vinyls before. I thought that was like a cool.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Gift. Yeah.

[Mal]

Just dope.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Okay, we'll see. Women. Now you know what to buy. Men, apparently they don't like the robe with the name on it. I'm so happy I ain't get that one. That robe. I was thinking about it, but I didn't do it. They don't like them.

[Mal]

I'm not saying we don't like it, but it's just like he probably got four in the top back of the closet that you've never seen. So just. Okay. Somebody before thought of that too.

[Rory]

Apparently they don't like it.

[Damaris]

Did give me some flippers that were incredible though.

[Mal]

Those are always nice. Good house shoes.

[Rory]

What about the polo, the polo box and the polo T shirts? No. Have you out.

[Mal]

I'm not mad at him. I mean, you can never have too many draws as far as I'm concerned as a man. Like, you can never have too many underwears and socks. So I'm not mad at that.

[Damaris]

It is not an ad whatsoever. But it should be. Yo, Skims for men. Best boxers in the world.

[Mal]

Oh, yeah.

[Damaris]

Like, but they're smoking.

[Mal]

I'm not gonna lie. I don't know who's in charge. Ariana, who's in charge of Fenty's mailbox Boxer marketing. Because that every time I open my phone, they want me to buy six dollar box.

[Damaris]

I have to try the Fenty one. But I gotta try and skims. They are. They are special.

[Mal]

The skims box. Men's box of briefs are definitely some of the favorite. My favorite boxer briefs I've ever had.

[Damaris]

And we had an ad. This was before volume. I forgot.

[Mal]

What meundies.

[Damaris]

No, it wasn't me unnies. It was a different one. They sent us a bunch and I.

[Rory]

Yeah, I remember Macwell.

[Damaris]

Max.

[Mal]

Yeah, Macwell.

[Damaris]

Just giving them a free attic again. Great jaws. Like when, when I did that ad, I was not like I was selling it because I believed in the product.

[Mal]

I just can't. I can't do. I can't do polyester underwear though.

[Rory]

You need cotton.

[Mal]

I need cotton sweat. No, but I just, I. That chick doesn't feel right against my skin. Like, I. I need cotton. I can only wear cotton breeds that.

[Damaris]

Are allergic to latex. Yeah, I know.

[Mal]

Maybe. Maybe that's the version of being allergic to. You might be right. I don't know. I cannot wear polyester anything. I cannot do it.

[Damaris]

Well, we can close up here. I actually do have a quick advice for this woman. Don't let that deter you. The game is the game. That is going to happen when you date. I'm not saying go out there and just, you know, keep a bunch of people, but keep dating. Like, not every single guy.

[Mal]

Can we get home in the Zoom Zoom room?

[Damaris]

Yeah, that'd be fun.

[Mal]

Let's get her on the Zoom Zoom room. Get. Give us your. We'll email her or dm. She doesn't. She didn't give any information.

[Rory]

She give any super anonymous.

[Damaris]

Okay.

[Rory]

Yeah, she probably won't want to do that anyway. And don't take it. Don't let it be a hit to your ego.

[Mal]

Nah, it's a hit to your ego.

[Rory]

Small. Shut the.

[Mal]

I'm just saying you can have.

[Damaris]

You can have men doing.

[Mal]

Yeah, like, you gotta still hit your ego though.

[Rory]

You could. Of course. But what I'm saying is you could have the best in the world. Best personality that might have a girlfriend. You don't. You really don't know what he got going on.

[Mal]

Oh no, but it's still a hit to your ego.

[Rory]

Because what I'm saying that she shouldn't internalize it so much.

[Mal]

No, agree. Don't internalize it too much.

[Rory]

Yeah. There's nothing wrong with you.

[Mal]

I mean, I don't know.

[Damaris]

There could be. We don't know her.

[Mal]

But what I'm saying is, is get back in the game. Yeah. Go in there with a little more like, you know, more battle scars. Show the scars now. Show that you know. I'm not. Listen, I've been down that road. I ain't going again.

[Damaris]

Maybe even what we were talking about earlier. I've been in two long term relationships where I on the first night, like. And like you said, chick, you thought you just wanted to beat. She ended up living in your house. Like that can also happen too in these scenarios.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Keep dating. Keep getting out there. Keep swinging, pounding through it.

[Mal]

Keep swinging. Know I'm going tell you like Ike told Tina. Keep swinging.

[Rory]

Okay.

[Damaris]

Wow. Peach rolling 725 and edits. All right. Do your do the outro.

[Mal]

All right.

[Damaris]

Oh my God.

[Mal]

All right. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Serious time. Series time.

[Damaris]

Yeah, cuz we had. We have some ads to do.

[Mal]

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[Rory]

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[Damaris]

Here at the Almond Joy Factory, where.

[Mal]

Tropical vibes abound, we use soft, fresh.

[Rory]

Tasting coconut, the crunchiest almonds, and delicious chocolate chocolate candy. Ah, but do you know what our.

[Mal]

Most important ingredient is?

[Damaris]

Sometimes you feel like a nut, sometimes you don't.

[Mal]

Almond Joy's got nuts and something even.

[Rory]

Way better than that.

[Mal]

Yes, Almond Joy is made with almonds. And Jo.

[Damaris]

A treasure trove of bananas has been stolen and it's up to Donkey Kong and his buddy Paul and to get them back, this unlikely duo is going on a world smashing adventure, using DK's destructive abilities to explore an underground world and the power of Pauline singing to activate wild transformations. Donkey Kong Bonanza available July 17th. Rated everyone 10 and up only on Nintendo Switch 2 game and systems sold separately.

[Rory]

This is an iHeart podcast.