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Mall
The volume.
Damaris
No worrying loud.
Rory
So we can all agree that anyone keeps their phone on loud as a serial killer, right? And you know who's even scarier? The people that have that light notification. Oh my God, they belong in prison and not like just county jail. Like you need to go upstate and think about what you've done to society. How do you even do that? Put that little light notification anytime you get a fucking text?
Mall
I don't know, is it the silent or ring? That's all I know. My phone's Always on silent.
Rory
And the people that belong in like Guantanamo Bay are the ones that insist on being on the auxiliary cord but not having their phone on.
Damaris
Oh my God.
Rory
And they think it's fine. I've noticed every person that does that has no issue with it. Like you don't hear that.
Mall
And when you get a text you can hear it.
Rory
You can't. Like the music kind of goes out for a second. And they have no issue with it.
Damaris
That it makes me irrationally angry.
Rory
I just don't even understand the thought process of why you would think that was okay to begin with. Guantanamo Bay put them there.
Damaris
And it's never an important nick because.
Rory
What else will they do? If they'll do that, what else will they do?
Mall
You don't hear Baby D getting her shit off though.
Damaris
It's never an important nigga. Like people who have they no phone notifications on. They're never important. They don't do shit real. Like there's nothing that requires like you literally work a 9 to 5. They don't need you outside of the 9 to the 5. Like it's no work notifications. You don't have any kids.
Rory
Like literally they wear the messenger hat with a Bluetooth.
Damaris
Yeah. It's like you got fucking IG notifications lighting up, turning off the fucking Bluetooth. That shit gets me tight, bro.
Rory
No, they're serial killers.
Mall
Yeah. I don't need to be capable of anything. Like, I don't. I don't need to be alerted every time somebody mentions me on social media.
Rory
That's.
Mall
That's weird to me. Yeah, I don't, I don't need that coming directly to my phone.
Rory
I don't. If you have two followers, I don't think you need.
Mall
Yeah, I just don't need that. That's, that's just weird.
Rory
And then just have a flash.
Mall
Yeah, the flash.
Rory
You ever, ever slept with a chick just the side of the bed just lighting the up?
Mall
Yeah.
Rory
Sick.
Mall
Yeah, that's one.
Rory
You need two for her.
Damaris
When you in cars and you see the light flash, I'm ducking around thinking it's the cops, cuz I'm high. I don't like, See, I just don't.
Mall
Like start cracking the windows.
Rory
Yeah.
Damaris
Like, come on, bro.
Mall
Baby D was hot boxing. She got cracked the windows every time somebody get alert.
Rory
With that said, we are back. Sponsored by Boost. Happy top of the week to everybody. Eventful weekend. I feel like there is a lot to cover. But how was everyone's. Yeah, how was everyone's, you know, Time off. So Maris was in the streets, right?
Mall
Maris is always in the streets, man.
Rory
But it was good streets this time.
Damaris
It's always good streets.
Mall
Yeah, but Keisha street, we seen you in some shaky streets.
Rory
Yeah, there's been some crack in the paper.
Mall
I've seen you in some streets. I'm like, yo, why is she there? Like, what's she doing?
Rory
What's the road less traveled?
Mall
What's Damaris doing over there? Damaris was in the streets this weekend.
Damaris
I went to a Keisha Cole.
Mall
Yo, am I still in your Cole's friends? Cause I don't know. I ain't see that green ring light up all weekend. I don't know. And I know you've been doing close friend shit.
Damaris
I've been at Keisha. Keisha Cole concert is not close friendship.
Rory
Nah, but there's definitely, like, a Keisha Cole concert.
Mall
That's close friendship.
Damaris
Crying at the Keisha Cole concert is.
Mall
You cried at Gunna's concert.
Damaris
He was fresh home. He made it.
Mall
That nigga was two months. What that got to do with you crying? You act like Gunna was Nelson Mandel. What you crying for?
Rory
She went and visited the cell.
Mall
Yeah, she went to Atlanta with you. Yo, you cried cause Gunna came home. You fucking crazy.
Damaris
Anyway, and then she thought she was.
Mall
Like, he just came home. What does that mean?
Rory
He looked better.
Mall
He looks great.
Rory
He did a great job.
Mall
Yeah.
Damaris
Anyway, no, I did not cry at Keisha. What I will say is that Keisha did a great job. I'll get to that. But Lil Kim been outperforming you bitches for a very long time.
Rory
Yeah.
Damaris
She puts on such a show, does not forget a lyric. She's so entertaining. There's so much personality. I love seeing Lil Kim perform outside of the. Just her discography being fucking insane. Like, the catalog is crazy, but it's like the perform.
Mall
You know, that's Biggie's, like, protege. That's like, she came up under.
Damaris
I'm not surprised. I'm just saying, every time, it's a. It's a hit every time. Jadakiss also came out at the Keisha Cole show, did his thing. That was wonderful to see. I had a good time.
Mall
What.
Rory
What was the. Well, not the set list, per se, but the set order. Like, did Keisha. She was the headliner. She ended everything.
Damaris
Keisha was the. Was the headliner. Yes. I missed the. So she had Tink, she had Elijah, Blake. She had Amerie. I missed all of them. I got there at Amari.
Mall
Been shutting y' all up. She was sounding better.
Rory
Yeah, she.
Mall
She. She met him with people. Been saying. She was saying all these little videos. She sounded better.
Damaris
She had been off the lab for a while. Sometimes you gotta get back into the swing of things that happens.
Mall
Yeah.
Rory
So you were late. Was it just, like, clothing situation, traffic?
Damaris
No, I went. I went over to Lavender Room in Brooklyn. I was having some wings and some hookah and henny pomegranate drinks.
Rory
Lost track of time.
Mall
Wings, hookah and henny before concert in.
Rory
A spot called Lavender.
Damaris
Lavender Room. Shout out to them. But, yeah, it was good. I wanted some good food. What, y' all wanted me to go straight to Barclays and eat chicken tenders and fucking pay 38 dol for a drink? Like I did. Like, nah.
Mall
I mean, yeah, I feel you on that, but I just. Just going, like, to a bar. I'm assuming that's what Lavender Room is.
Damaris
It's a lounge. Lounge restaurant.
Mall
Going to a lounge before a concert is just. I don't know.
Damaris
It's a restaurant, though. So we had appetizers. Me and my friend Allison, we had appetizers. We had hookah, a drink, and then we went to another spot. We had more appetizers, a salad, another drink, and then we went to Last Lap, had another drink, and then we.
Mall
Went to the concert before. The concert.
Rory
Wasn't a concert in Brooklyn.
Mall
Yeah.
Rory
You went from Brooklyn to the city, back to. Oh, yeah. All right, Never mind. She was in the streets.
Mall
Yeah, yeah.
Rory
Congestion, toll, yo.
Mall
To go to Last level saying all of that. And it ended with. And then I went to the Keisha Cole concert. What time Was you outside? 9am on a Saturday?
Damaris
No, we actually. We left out. My reservation for Lavender room was at 5:00pm So 5:00pm we had, like I said, appetizers, drinks, headed over to the city, went to Dudley's, where I get my girl dinner, you know, Caesar salad, truffle fries, calamari, espresso margarita.
Mall
I see why you was late. I get why you Miss Amerie.
Rory
She was gassy.
Mall
Yeah, she was on a tour. She was on tour. She went to fucking four spots.
Damaris
I asked somebody from out of town. They wanted to see my usual. Like, that's usually how me and Alex move around. So I showed them our spots. Lavender Room, Dudley's, and Last Lap is where I go when it comes to.
Rory
Was this on the outfit?
Mall
So if you're ever thinking about running into Baby, you just need to go to Lavender Room, Dudley's last lap, pick up the tab, buy her a drink.
Rory
You know, that's why she did the whole tour. Because it was on somebody else's bill. If it's on someone else's bill, I'm going 10 spots.
Damaris
You said it was somebody else's bill.
Rory
You just made it up. I know I just made it up.
Damaris
Oh, yeah, No, I had Allison with me. We were outside. We run around. But Keisha was amazing. Let's stay on point. Keisha was amazing. She did good, though. I know it was the 20th anniversary of the Way It Is, her first album, but I wanted to hear other. I mean, she played a couple other songs, but Keisha has such an underrated catalog. I just. I wanted more. Her set was only like 50 minutes, and then she had a Jadakiss set in the middle of her set that was like 10, 15 minutes. So 45 minutes. Akisha wasn't enough for me, but I really enjoyed myself. What about you, Rory?
Rory
Where you at? I was chilling. I. I didn't. I was just.
Mall
Me.
Rory
Tomorrow. Kicking it.
Mall
That.
Rory
Yeah, that's really it.
Mall
But you bring Amara everywhere with you, so.
Rory
Yeah, but I mean, I'll be in.
Mall
The streets with tomorrow. Okay. Yeah, that's. That's in the streets. You didn't.
Rory
Is that in the streets?
Mall
Yeah, the Roc Nation office. Yeah, that's in the streets.
Rory
On a Friday? Yeah, I guess. I guess it's kind of, you know.
Mall
They open up the roof.
Rory
She stole a Clips record player.
Mall
Yeah. There you go. But then, wasn't it a Danu barbecue?
Rory
Yeah. I ended up not going.
Mall
Okay.
Rory
Amara on Saturday morning, I could already tell. Taking that two hour drive down to Camden wasn't really what I was scared about. It was that two hour drive back where I was like, nah.
Mall
Yeah.
Rory
And then one other person that was going to come with me, he couldn't come, and I would have needed the help. Yeah, that would have been too much. And then I saw the video and I was like, good call.
Mall
Yeah. No, I told you. When. You know what the difference between last.
Rory
Year and this year? We crossed a whole bunch of lines. So you got to think, like, 40 new noobs that are 20 years old and the network of people that they bring. Last year, that was the old head barbecue. Like, it was calm and chill. I'm happy. It looked beautiful. Don't get me wrong. It's right. What's the bridge between Camden and Philly? The Benjamin, whatever that beautiful bridge is, was right under that. It looked amazing.
Mall
Okay. But, yeah, it decided not to go.
Rory
Yeah.
Mall
If.
Rory
If that would have been a little closer, maybe that two hour drive Back. I can see what type of time Mar was on too.
Mall
Yeah. Your dad brain kicked in.
Rory
Yeah, 100. But no, we chilled. There's still some outdoor activities. Did a little swimming.
Mall
Yeah.
Rory
Nothing crazy.
Damaris
No coughs around the Roc Nation office about why Beyonce and Jay Z hate us and why Jay keeps coming out at random places like Paris or Atlanta.
Rory
Was he supposed to pop up here?
Damaris
Yeah.
Rory
Oh, you're saying why Jay didn't pop up when they were at, like, MetLife or something?
Mall
Yes.
Rory
Okay. I thought you meant specifically us in this room. I was like, speak for yourself. I don't think they hate me.
Damaris
Yeah, no.
Rory
Well, I mean, yeah, with. Come on. Paris Fashion Week was at that time. HOV definitely has an album coming. He got a new chain and he did psa.
Damaris
Yeah, no, for sure.
Mall
But Atlanta coming, man. He's not recording.
Rory
When MetLife happened, Hov didn't have any new records. He probably got about three and a half right now. And it's like, you know what? I think it's time.
Mall
I don't think so. I don't think Jay is inspired right now. He's not doing. Because a legacy act like Jay Z. What do you. What is putting out an album, right. For people to forget about it in three days. Like, as quick as people move on from albums now. Like, what would a Jay Z album do right now?
Rory
I don't think people moved on from 444 in three days. And how many years ago. It's been three days. And I don't think anyone's forgot about.
Mall
How many years ago was 444?
Rory
2016. Right.
Mall
July, almost 10 years ago.
Rory
Holy.
Mall
People's. People's attention spans have changed.
Rory
Well, I'm saying people still bring up 444, so I guess that would kind of go against.
Mall
No, because Jay Z. You're gonna bring up a Jay Z album. What I'm saying is, I think in 2025, 2026, I just think artists like Jay Z, maybe even Nas, I just don't think that they. Nas is probably more inspired than Jay Z to make music right now.
Rory
I mean, I think that goes without.
Mall
Jay is doing too much based off the volume. Yeah, it's like, you know, only time you gonna see Jay is if he's with the family. He's with his wife on tour. Like, the whole family is, like, moving around the world together.
Rory
I'm not saying that a Jay Z album is coming out, per se. I just think because he's like the stay at home dad on this tour, like, he's watching the kids while Beyonce's working. Yeah, he's chilling. I think he's had, like, some dad hobbies. The way you and I may learn how to build a grill or do some shit. I think HOV is sitting.
Mall
Stay at home, the kids are on stage.
Rory
That's. He the only one not working. Jay, get your lazy ass. That's. He's starting to feel inferior as a dad and saw his kids busting their ass on stage and he was like, you know what?
Mall
Let me.
Rory
Let me do psa.
Mall
Yeah. Yeah. I might as well go out of blue smoke, give him a little tune. Yeah. But I don't think as far as new music, I don't.
Rory
I think HOV is. Is in that. That suite teaching himself Pro Tools, hitting Space bar. And I think he has a few records just on some dad hobby shit.
Mall
Yeah.
Rory
So he bought a new chain. You know, I had to go remind himself that what PSA is.
Mall
Yeah.
Rory
I think he's going through dad shit. He just goes through dad shit in the Netherlands with Beyonce while the rest of us are home doing it. Yeah, that's his version of it.
Mall
I mean, I'm not against. I'm not against the new Jay Z album. I just. I just don't believe that it's happening anytime soon. I don't think so.
Damaris
I believe it exists. I don't believe it's ever coming.
Rory
And hold albums that exist that we have.
Mall
Oh, no, you guys. Music recorded, but an album. I don't think the album is coming in anytime soon.
Rory
Well, I mean, I guess that's a good segue into this weekend of music, which was one of the better Fridays of the entire year.
Mall
Just want to start with that great weekend for music.
Rory
The clips being, I would say, a legacy act. Both. Both of those gentlemen will push is what, 48, 49. Malice is in his 50s. These are two older gentlemen where I feel like this album is not going to go away in three days. I think they had one of the better rollouts. It was a rollout that took a month and a half, which we haven't seen in quite some time. And I know we're only at Monday the 14th, and it came out Friday, but I don't think this album is going away next week. I think I. I think this will be a staple of the remainder of the year. As far as constantly talked about, it'll.
Damaris
Sound even better in the fall.
Rory
Yeah, I don't think this album is going anywhere.
Mall
I think that. Well, first of all, congrats on the clips to the clips of putting out a incredible product.
Rory
Oh, I missed rap so much.
Mall
Congrats to the clips on that.
Rory
Finally we can use the word refreshing and actually mean it.
Mall
It's. It's good to see them apply old school moves to the new generation. Like, their rollout is. Is such a. You know, you can tell that they came up in a different time.
Rory
Yeah.
Mall
So it's good to see that. It's good to see people react to the album the way they did into the music.
Rory
That promotion has to do with actually touching the people.
Mall
Yeah.
Rory
And going on a promo run. For real. Remember that word? Promo run? Like, you actually have to. Used to go to different cities and do different publications and actually be there.
Mall
Yeah.
Rory
Work.
Mall
You had to work. Yeah, they did that. And it's good to see. You know, people always give me shit when I say, you know, an artist needs to lock in with one producer. Like. But this is the. This is what happens when you lock in with one producer for your fucking entire career. You're able to always go back to that fade away move that nobody can stop.
Rory
Yeah.
Mall
And this is what the clips and Pharrell have done. You know, somebody like me, a little older than everybody else in the room, but I came up in a time where, you know, the clips was. You know, I was. I spent some time going down 95 south to Kings Dominion for black college weekend. So, you know, clips to me is a different. It's a certain space that they hold in my, you know, my taste for rap and hip hop. But this album, I liked it. I liked it. The only thing I didn't like was I didn't like them opening the album with such an emotional record.
Rory
Why I actually.
Mall
And then go right into chains and whips like, nigga, I'm still crying. I can't hear changing whips. Like, you can't. Don't give me changing whips. After saying you found your mom dead and your father dead. Like, don't give me that. I'm still in there trying to pull my shit together. You know what I'm saying?
Rory
I text Damaris at maybe 1:30am on Thursday going into Friday, and I said, did birds don't sing make you cry yet? Like. Because I couldn't get past the record, even though we had talked about it prior. Like, that song they did when they walked on one of the LV shows. So I've been listening to it, but when you hear it, like in full CDQ version, like, yeah, like, you can't. It was tough. It was tough to get past that in a great way.
Mall
Yeah. Like, I can't. You can't take me from that to changing whips. Like, I just. I just think the sequencing was just a little, like, you know, that. That. That much of an emotional record should be for later on in the album.
Rory
See, that's why I kind of like the move. Because, yes, it feels like an outro, or it feels like maybe a break in the middle for a switch up somewhere.
Mall
Somewhere in the middle or towards the end.
Rory
I don't know. Like, not to get, like, too corny, but it was nice to remember that they were brothers, like, starting this record.
Mall
Who forgot? Who forgot Butcher Malice was brothers?
Rory
Of course, yes, we know they are brothers, but we know them to be brothers, and they, like, so coke together. I'm not saying they haven't did deep dives into their personal lives in clips albums or Pusha T solo shit, but this was like, a reminder going into this project that how many times have we ever seen two actual blood brothers from the same parents be a legendary duo in hip hop? Like, that was a crazy thing that I don't think we've seen. And starting the record out with Push, talking about moms, Malice, talking about pops, like, how we've never even seen that. I've never seen that music.
Mall
No.
Rory
Can you name any. Any genre of music?
Mall
What you're saying is absolutely correct.
Rory
It was beautiful to start. Like, these guys are brothers. Like, these guys.
Mall
Don't start me like that. Don't start me like that is all I'm saying. Like, don't do that.
Damaris
I appreciated it, too, because I was re listening to it again today. I appreciate the. Make me cry, make me emotional. And then we write onto the bullshit and we on bullshit for the rest of the album. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, I like that. Like, oh, y' all are crazy.
Mall
Y' all are psychopaths.
Rory
Yeah.
Mall
Y' all want to cry and then get into bullshit.
Damaris
Yeah.
Mall
Nah, I want to get into bullshit and cry after the bullshit is over.
Damaris
It's way too.
Rory
Nah. Wipe my tears right when the bullshit come in.
Damaris
It's way too good of a record to be at the end of the album. Yeah, it's an amazing record.
Mall
No, it is. I just don't. I just feel like opening the album with that. I was just like, damn, man. Like. Cause it goes right into a whole different type of energy with chains and whips. So I'm just like, damn. Like, emotionally, I'm just everywhere right now. But, you know, that's just Me nitpicking at, you know, just. Just preference, but I think it was.
Rory
A very interesting and cool way to start an album where no other duo or rapper would ever.
Mall
But I got to do that. I gotta express my. My. My disdain. Stove God deserves a fucking verse, man. I'm sorry, bro. Like, you can't. You can't give Stove God a hook on a record like that. Like, you gotta let him talk his shit. Like, I don't know if I just. I mean, that. That song, the music, the. The hook, the. The lyric, everything is perfect, and. And it just feels like it was room for Stove to get off. Like, it ended. So, like, the song is, like, not even. Probably not even three minutes, is it?
Rory
Yeah, it's three. 22. But I. I didn't feel like the song was already too crowded. I feel like, yes, there could have been a Stove verse, and it would have felt fine.
Mall
It would have felt fine. And so that's my. That was it. It was just like, we need a Stove God verse on that record. Y' all can't be talking greasy like that. Stove coming in with the melody. The only other person that could have done that hook that way is Pharrell.
Rory
Yeah.
Mall
Like, he's the only other one I feel like, vocally, you know, that would have sounded, like, good on that record. But to have Stove on it, I love that. Just giving Stove that look. But. But still, I mean, let him get his balls off.
Rory
The way we obviously, you know, have said. Stove is. Is by far one of our favorite new rappers, especially in this sub genre of hip hop. He has become, like, the hook guy in a weird way. Like, because west side has done that with Stove for the past two albums. Like, there's times I felt Stove should have got a verse and he'll just do the hook. On west side, he is great. He is like a Coke Nate Dogg in a weird way for this genre. Like, I know it sounds nuts, but if you go through Wesley's catalog, Stove has the best harmonies on every fucking west side.
Mall
You know what else he has on west side's album?
Rory
Some verses.
Mall
Verses.
Rory
I'm not disagreeing with you.
Mall
Yeah. That's all I'm saying. Just let Stove cook. Let him get his shit off. That's just the perfect record. I know Stove has something for that. I know he wrote to that. Like, I know he got balls somewhere without question. So, yeah, that was it. But other than that, the rollout was impeccable. The tiny desk, you know, all the interviews, you know, just seeing the clips you know, stayed true to a formula that they've obviously, when they came up in the industry was a different time. You know, as far as you did people doing their rollouts, it was. It was a little different. But to see them still doing that, be very intentional, you know, to still kind of attach high level art to hip hop, which is high level art as far as I'm concerned. To see them kind of, you know, keep that essence and, you know, keep those things around their album. It was dope to see that, man. So, you know, I like the album. I haven't listened to any other album this weekend. I didn't get into Justin Bieber's album yet.
Rory
Well, I'll get to that in. In one second. I do want to run through some of the records that are here. Chains and Whips, obviously. We had heard the Kendrick leak before that. I still think it's an incredible verse. Sounded way different coming on the album again. I think that's a perfect way to go after crying. Like, let's just get right to the shits. POV I think Malice may have verse of the year on pov. As of right now, I don't know if there's a better rap verse. I know you think it's Eminem on Animal, but I think Malice has the best verse of the year so far on pov, explaining why he left and why he's better than everyone else. So be it. I was a little sad to see that it was. It was a different version, but I know they couldn't clear the sample, so they had to go that route. The run from 7 to 10 MTBT. That's the only thing I can't.
Damaris
Like too many Mike Tyson blow to the face.
Rory
I know what it. But, like, just call it that, please. Because I have to say, you know. You know how stupid I am. Damaris. And I like, I have to type. All right, Mike Tyson. All right. You could have just.
Mall
They could have just go to Mike Tyson.
Rory
But that run from M. Mike Tyson blow to the face.
Damaris
Thank you.
Rory
Down to inglourious basterds like that 4. I don't know if anyone's competing with that this year. That's an insane run. And I was telling Roc Nation on Friday, what's the E B I T D A? Which one does that stand for? Demerit. Since you want our spelling bee.
Damaris
I don't. I actually don't know for that one. I can't remember.
Rory
I hope they make that the next single. Can you guys just let the drug dealers have some Fun sometimes. Like, I know so Far Ahead was a big favorite for our next single, but let the drug dealers have fun, man. It's a summer record. I feel like Malice smiled when he was recording that. I feel like they had a. A growl on their face recording every.
Mall
Verse, but that, you know, I'm terrible with titles like your name in these titles, and I don't know what the. What song that is. Okay.
Rory
Yeah, yeah. Like a fun record. I feel like coke dealers, especially if they're free, should be able to smile sometimes and have fun. Like, that can be a single.
Mall
Yeah.
Rory
Doesn't always have to be, you know. So be it. So be it. Let's all smile. Yo, you guys are by Virginia Beach.
Mall
Yeah.
Rory
It's gorgeous.
Mall
It's a good album. It's a good album. I like it a lot, man. I was. I'm very pleased with what they did. Pharrell is still sharp, and it's just good to, you know, see these guys still working, still in shape. I know in hip hop, we like to say, you know, it's a young guy sport or young. Young. Young lady sport. These older gentlemen are out rapping, making better songs, making better albums than 90% of you in this industry. So I'm happy for that, man. I'm just happy to see guys from a different era still putting out dope shit, still looking good, still sounding good, still being intentional, because it's. You know, when. When. When the. The landscape changes and the business around, you know, the music and the genre that you love changes, it's easy to fall into, like, a different, you know, space mentally and just emotionally when it comes to creating music. But especially the clips.
Rory
Yeah, they've been through.
Mall
They've been through a lot.
Rory
Star Trek, Def Jam.
Mall
So to still see them be so intentional and, you know, and have this. This body of work that they put together, and the one thing I really like that they did that I don't think nobody's talking about is it's such a short project.
Rory
Yeah. Straight to the point.
Mall
That's what I love the most. 13 tracks, 40 minutes. That's something. Don't give me 27. 28, like. Cause then it's like. It's just you asking too much of me. Like, I gotta really be attached to. 28 tracks. 30 tracks. That's a lot. When you go 13, get right to it. Here's the music, here's the bars, here's the. It's like, okay, me personally, I receive that differently than if you. I'll look at Al first Of all, my anxiety starts going crazy when I see 30 tracks. I'm like, all right, fam. Like, I can't like, 30.
Rory
I'm gonna need the weekend.
Mall
Yeah. Like, it's just like, keep it. I like this. Everything about this feels like a different time. Like when albums were 13 tracks, 12 tracks right to it. You know what I'm saying? Like, I just. I like everything the Clips did with this. With this project.
Rory
Since you brought up, you know, the industry shit they've been through, do we think it's a blessing that they got off Def Jam? And I'm speculation here, of course. The Clips were obviously heavily involved in how this was rolled out, and I'm sure a lot of the ideas came from them. Do we think it would have been executed the same way with Def Jam?
Mall
No, I think so. I think. I think they control what they do as far as rollout and things like that. I don't think that Def Jam would have gotten away and said, hey, we're not doing that, or we're not. We don't want y' all guys. I don't think they would have done that.
Rory
Well, I mean, even putting some money behind what that rollout looks like, do we think Def Jam would even believe in that style of rollouts at this point?
Mall
That I don't know. I would assume so. It is Def Jam. I don't know who's there anymore. Who's, like, running the. The label now. Yeah. So much has changed that Def Jam.
Rory
Over the years or would have the staff that would be able to facilitate a lot of that.
Mall
Now that's a whole. You know, again, I don't know. Or maybe. Maybe they just, you know, let them not do them. Yeah, but I understand why you asked that, because that's a real question. You know, sometimes the label doesn't understand it, or they say, oh, we don't need. Y' all don't need to do all of that. We're not doing all.
Rory
Is that worth all the money?
Mall
I just think the Clips is a different act. It's a different thing. I think that the Clips is obviously a legacy act at this point. They've been around so long, so I don't see Def Jam getting in the way of that. But listen, man, the fact that they left Def Jam on their terms and wanted to get away from that, and, I mean, they definitely didn't miss any steps. They didn't drop the ball at all. No. So, I mean, I'm guessing the Clips are very pleased with how things landed, how people Received it. I've seen nothing but people saying nothing but good things online about it. People personally, I know, have been saying great things about the album, and I like it. I listened to it, you know, a few times and, you know, the music again is Pharrell. Once you say Pharrell is. Is in charge of the music and he's executive producing something, the music is always going to be a certain level. And the clips and Pharrell, to me, they didn't miss on this project at all.
Damaris
What would you rate it out of five?
Mall
Out of five?
Rory
Eight out of five.
Damaris
Okay. Out of ten? Okay.
Rory
Five is always so.
Mall
So far. Matt, listen, Stove don't have a verse. I gotta take one off. A point off for that.
Rory
Can I give you my one critique? Since you're saying your critique, I feel like the Nas verse felt a little forced.
Mall
I was going to say the verse.
Rory
And who the am I to say that? If Nas wants to be on your album, let's force it, let's do it. But that's literally my only. Of course I would like a Stove verse, But I love this hook, so it is what it is. That was the only time, track 12, where I was like, okay, yeah, I didn't.
Mall
I wasn't. I didn't.
Rory
Because I was really anticipating Nas with the clips.
Mall
Yeah. And you see that.
Rory
You like, just like.
Mall
But see, it was the same thing for me. No, it's not bad. It's a nosfer. But see, it was the same thing for me. When you tell me stove God, yeah. Has a joint with the clips, I'm like, oh, these?
Rory
You're looking for Exodus.
Mall
Somebody's getting indicted. That's the feeling I had when this track was first dropped. I'm like, oh, my God. But for him to only have the hook, it's like, okay, great hook. He sounds good. He talking crazy. You know, he had the bag of one eye closed and all that shouts to fetty Wap. You know what I mean?
Rory
I get it.
Mall
But you gotta let him get off. So to point off of that, I don't like opening the album. I love the song, but I don't like opening the album. Just that emotion. It's just like, dawg, like, you gotta let me.
Rory
I'd be tight if it was the outro.
Mall
Not. It doesn't necessarily have to be the outro. I'm not saying it had to be the last song on the album, but it shouldn't have been the first one on the album. Like, don't give me like, come on, man. That's just too much to unpack.
Rory
Well, I tried to challenge you on our last episode. Where do you rank the John Legend Hook? And did you practice Birds don't sing.
Mall
The birds don't sing. They screech and brain. That nigga's a WB frog. I love wb. I love the WB Frog. Frog. I'm just saying, that's who John Legend. Him and Mac. Remember Mac Mo, of course. Yeah, yeah, yeah, That's. That's John Legend to me, man. I just know it's Mac Moon and WB Frog.
Rory
Okay, but do you hear me from the last episode? I said, I think you will actually like this John Legend hook.
Mall
No, no, I like it.
Rory
He didn't over sing it.
Mall
I'm gonna talk about John Legend. I'm gonna talk about John Legend just because that's me. But I love John Legend. Like, he's dope. Especially when you give him a song like that to just bring that, you know, emotion and that. That tone to it. Yeah, he got off on that.
Rory
Okay, so we're giving ratings. While we think of that, I do want to note that Pitchfork gave this a 6.5.
Damaris
Out of 10.
Rory
Out of 10.
Mall
I was gonna land somewhere around 7.
Rory
I believe they've given Ice Spice a 12 on everything. And someone brought up in Sexy We Trust is a 7.5from Pitchfork.
Mall
Same writer in Sexy We Trust.
Rory
Who's that Sexy, Right. How much you think her album got a 7. 5 in 2024.
Mall
Yeah. I was gonna land on probably an 8 so far for this.
Damaris
I like that 8.
Rory
I was going 8. 8.1.
Mall
Yeah. What's the point? 1. How'd you tally that?
Rory
Much more of an expert.
Mall
Okay.
Rory
Because it was an 8. 5. But then the NAS it. A few adjustments. Okay. Of things. But. Yeah. Which by the. I think like an eight. One score is incredible. Crazy.
Mall
You kidding me?
Rory
Like, yeah. I don't even know if there's a 10. 10.
Mall
Besides thriller, the biggest thing for me is the fact that it's 13 tracks, 40 minutes. That's a great.
Rory
That's a grown rap album. That's a grown man type.
Mall
Yeah. I got to do. Yeah. Like, don't give me, like, 30 tracks. You asking a lot. Like, you ordering a lot off the menu, shorty. I just met you, like, you know what I'm saying? You had apps and desserts. Like, we relax. You know what I'm saying?
Rory
And I had to pay for parking.
Mall
Yeah, 30. 30 tracks is like, just for rap. I just. I don't want to hear that much rap.
Rory
And Yeah, I wanted to listen at midnight, but I, of course, had to be up early. All right, 12:40. Cool. Right at midnight. 40 minutes. I'll go back to sleep. Yeah, perfect. Perfect. Wake up in the morning. Amara heard that. I feel bad for her. I'm curious what, like, her next few sentences are going to be if. If she started doing coke. Math. I'm a bad burn.
Mall
Yeah.
Damaris
I'm going to do a. We're going to do a segment on Patreon about how push makes everybody seem, like, so poor. Like, I want to know if there's any other artists who does it the way that Push does. And we're just going to bring up.
Mall
Yeah, I saw some funny shit. Somebody said, push your rap. Like, push your rap like, he's in your house, but you don't know which room he's in.
Damaris
Yeah, that's one of my favorite sweet talks.
Mall
That was hilarious. I read that. I was like, I understand what he means by that.
Rory
It's hard to explain what. I totally understand what he means.
Mall
It's like pushing those. All your secrets, and you just like, is this here, like, how he know?
Damaris
Somebody text me and was like, be sounding like rich spellcasters, like, like, you.
Mall
Just like, yeah, push yourself. We got blickers under the mink. You got dirty dishes in your sink. You like, how this know I ain't washing dishes.
Rory
That in here, man.
Mall
That nigga's in here, man.
Rory
Guess what room I'm in.
Mall
Yeah, guess what room I'm in. He definitely a guess what room I'm in ass for sure.
Rory
But I'm excited to see how this. This album ages. I think I was having this debate with somebody over the weekend on the producer side. If you're putting in their entire catalogs, we were talking about, like, the a list producers, whether it be Dre, Pharrell, Timberland, Swizz, etc. I'm comfortable saying I think Pharrell is my favorite producer. If we're taking everyone's catalogs solo nerd. Everything he's produced, I. I think I'm comfortable right now, which it could change by tomorrow. Pharrell, I think, is my favorite producer of all time.
Damaris
I said that when we did the beat battle.
Rory
I mean, I've said it before, too.
Mall
But over Kanye.
Rory
That'S producing.
Mall
That's tough. That's tough.
Rory
It's very tough.
Mall
I know that's a tough. You saying something with that's tough. Kanye over Pharrell. I mean, Pharrell over Kanye. Yeah. Ah.
Rory
I mean, a lot of the stuff that I started to love with. Yeah. Post like, late registration. Like, he wasn't really producing.
Mall
I mean, I get it. Listen, I'm not mad at it. I'm not. Pharrell is one of my favorite producers.
Rory
It could be a. In an hour. Yeah, but we were just going through everything. And of course you're still sitting on this album just coming out and the allure of that entire thing.
Mall
But I don't know, man.
Rory
When you go through Pharrell and include everything nerd plus everything he's done with ho, like Khaleesi, it just start everything with Star Trek, like, it's. It gets kind of crazy.
Mall
No, because the solo catalog is for real.
Rory
The group catalog is there no production.
Mall
Million percent. This is. I'm not. I'm just. I don't. I would have to sit back and think about that a little more when it comes to him and him and Kanye. But Pharrell is one of my favorites. Anytime you tell me Pharrell is executive producing something, I know it's going to be at a certain level, like, just because that's what Pharrell does. So I'm not mad at that. I just. It's just Kanye we talking about, you know, it's a lot to have to sift through when it comes to saying it might be a better producer than Kanye West.
Rory
So on Thursday night, we. We saw that Bieber had announced a few hours before that that he was putting out quite possibly the worst title of an album of all time, Swag. And then the Internet got the interneting and said that, wow, look at Universal rushing a Bieber album to step on the clips. Like that would ever happen. Justin Bieber's just like, wait, you need me to step on the clips? Universal. Here's two more.
Mall
Yeah, here's two more songs. No, stupidest. I didn't listen to it yet, but I mean, I'm hearing this good, though.
Rory
Good. It's phenomenal.
Mall
Yeah.
Rory
This was not rushed. Awful title. But you guys know I love. I love Bieber pop. I love Bieber R and B. Journals is a classic to me. I've always supported Biebs even when he's done some insane things. He just needs to sit down. This. This is maybe my second favorite. Justin Bieber. Damn.
Mall
Oh, you came in here. You came in here prepared that you.
Damaris
Just like, hot take.
Mall
I'm not even putting it all on the line.
Rory
Purpose is close. Don't get me wrong. It was always journals and then purpose after that. This Swag album, though, of course you have to Give it more time. I think this is going to easily surpass Purpose as the second greatest Justin Bieber album of all time.
Mall
And they're saying he has another album coming this year, right? Oh, I didn't miss that. I think I read that online. This was just the first. He's supposed to have another one, I think dropping this year.
Rory
Just my opinion. Nothing about this feels forced whatsoever. I know we hate the shit Cohesive. But, you know, a lot of this was produced by mkg, Dijon, you know, cohesive producers locking in with just one or two people. This felt very intentional, very purposeful. No pun intended. I don't even know where to begin on. On this. This Beebs. This is. This is Pop Beebs meeting R B B's in the best possible way that you can find.
Mall
Okay.
Damaris
I haven't really heard all of it. They were playing it in here earlier. Go, baby. When I heard it, you know when something's playing in the background, immediately I was like, oh, peach, what's that? So I really like that track. I have to give it another listen.
Rory
Daisy's crazy. Yukon crazy. I mean, he tried to get a little bit on his Frank Ocean Blonde throughout this, but just touches that. I didn't mind. Just a little partially a blonde wasn't mad at it. Go, baby. Insane. Butterflies nuts. You guys know I've come in like, I don't dislike Gunna, but he's not really my go to way. It is with Justin Bieber and gonna Gunna sounds like he should be in swv.
Mall
Please gonna sing it.
Rory
I mean, he says melodic.
Mall
Oh, melodic rap. Okay.
Rory
You know, the little B record is crazy. The only critique is I don't. I don't need any of the Drew Ski skits, which sucks because I think Drew Ski is hilarious. They were just stupid. They were just kind of unnecessary.
Mall
I feel you.
Rory
I feel like that was the only thing that was rushed. They asked Drew Ski to come in for one hour and he cut a bunch of things and he was trying to tell Justin Bieber how black he was. And all Biebs kept going was, yeah, yeah, thanks. Yeah, thanks.
Mall
Oh, okay.
Rory
Yeah, Very odd.
Mall
Awkward.
Rory
Yeah, it wasn't. I feel like it wasn't Drewski's fault. They didn't give him enough time to cook and like figure out what he was going to do with these if.
Mall
It was to be said. He wants you on the album. I'm on the way.
Rory
Exactly.
Mall
Yeah, I'm on the way. I don't know what we doing, but I'll be there. In 20 minutes.
Rory
But listen, I was on the same page and we saw who the features were on Thursday of like. I don't know, man. Is this. Is this the Biebs exploitation album you got Gunna Sexy Red Cash Cobain? Nah, nothing's exploited on this shit whatsoever. This is beautiful fucking popping R and B music. He actually brought a lot of them into his world. I felt like instead of grabbing from their world, I mean, of course there's a little. Little sexy drill to the Cash Cobain, but he brought. He brought gun into his world. Even the sexy joint is. Is cool. It was. It was her name. She didn't need to be on it. But no, I think he'll actually really like it. And again, it's like 50 minutes straight to the point.
Mall
Okay, I'm gonna check it out. I just was, you know, really listening to the. To the Clips album. That was the only one I wanted to listen to this weekend.
Rory
So I put in the chat. I mean, I know you guys weren't gonna have fresh flowers for me waiting, but I'm sure they'll be here on Wednesday.
Mall
Sure.
Rory
You know, delivery. Sometimes it can get weird. I had said when we went through patreon.com forward/memorial, available now. We went through our checklist for predictions of 2025 since we're halfway through the year. Yep. Got to MKG will be the best new artist of 2025. I said I was completely fucking wrong. And I found out he wrote and produced this whole album. So I want some flowers.
Mall
And this is me.
Rory
This is the launching point.
Mall
Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is how it starts.
Rory
And then Peej put in the chat like, oh, damn, he's white. I'm about to listen.
Damaris
That's not what he said. But I mean, he said, oh, he's a crack. I. I even know we shortened cracker around here.
Mall
Not crack, crack rock. There you go.
Rory
Also on Saturday, I believe. Right. Wasn't even Friday. Jack Boys, Travis Scott. Jack Boys too came out.
Mall
I ain't hear nothing about this.
Rory
Skimmed it.
Mall
I didn't hear nothing. I didn't hear nothing about this.
Rory
The Bun B interludes definitely surpassed the Drew Ski ones on Beaver Swag. But I don't know the skim. I do actually want to give them like, the proper time to listen to it. But the skim sounded like a cool Travis Scott album. Sure, I'll hear some of those records out and think they're great.
Mall
I gotta listen to that. But Doc, I'm not gonna listen to that before I listen to the Bebop No.
Rory
God, no.
Mall
Yeah, I gotta listen to the BE album first.
Rory
The last one. As far as, like the bigger projects. Giveon. Beloved.
Mall
Shout out to Giveon. It was good to see him drop the project.
Rory
Love, Givon. I have not had a chance to listen to this, but first thing Thursday episode, we're gonna get into that give you on album.
Mall
Yeah.
Damaris
Yeah, I haven't heard it either because we.
Rory
We have. We have given full breakdowns of every Giveon project. Like lyric breakdowns. He. Him and I are like heartbreak spirit animals. So I know he's talking some on there.
Mall
It was just good to see him drop a project because he's been giving out. Has been kind of like after he.
Rory
Blamed cheating on Justine sky on his grandmother, I was like, oh, yeah, this is. This is the goat. Had her do all the interludes. Like, my grandbaby didn't mean anything wrong by that. That's how he was raised.
Mall
Yeah, get grandma in there. I need my girl back.
Rory
But I know who else put out something. Why am I blanking? Larry June.
Mall
Larry June. Shout outs to Larry June, Nicholas Craven, him and Carter. Right? Shout out to Larry June.
Rory
A lot of music. I'm still catching up and I promise we'll give give proper breakdowns of the rest of these projects when we have the time.
Mall
Larry's. Larry's music is just perfect for any of you. Got the kids over.
Rory
Yeah.
Mall
Parents like Larry June is like Taylor Swift when you think about it. So you can play their music. You can play his music anywhere. Nobody's gonna be offended. You know what I'm saying? He gonna tell you, drink some. Drink some orange juice.
Rory
Yeah, it's positive.
Mall
Yeah.
Rory
I'm saying, well, the two chains, one, there may be some records I might skip through with family and children there, but.
Mall
Yeah, maybe, but. But Larry, for the most part, like, you know, his. His vibe, his energy is always. It's for everybody.
Rory
That's gonna land pretty high. Since we were talking about halfway through the year, two chains and Larry June, that project's gonna land pretty high, I think on. On my list of rap albums of the year.
Mall
2 Change Larry and was the alchemist, right? Yeah. Can't forget Alchemy. Come on, man.
Rory
That's up there for sure. Mall. Have you ever been walking down East Tremont and saw a phone plan and thought, wow, that's a great price. You signed up, then you got your bill, and it was way higher than what it was advertised.
Mall
Whenever I walked down East Street, Mount Rory, I thought more than that.
Rory
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Mall
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Rory
But you guys had your super bowl this weekend as well. Take it away, man. Wireless.
Mall
Oh, wow. Shout out weekend. Shout out. Wireless Fest. Wireless Fest was this weekend in. In London. Shout out to Drake. Three nights, three different set lists, three different vibes. I think the only other person to headline wireless three different nights was Princess.
Rory
That's crazy.
Mall
So I think there was some. That was a little wink. A little wink, wink.
Rory
Ah, okay.
Mall
The whole little, you know, I mean, but it was. It was dope to see all the videos. People was there. I was mad I missed it. You know. Lauryn Hill, Giveon, Bryson, Tiller, Bobby V, Mario Dave, Central C, J, Hus, Skepta, Vibes, Cartel Lotto, Sexy Red. I mean, I don't know many Vanessa Carlton.
Rory
Vanessa, I was waiting for you to get to like the.
Mall
The number one Vanessa Carlton. Like, I don't. Listen, there's not many artists that could bring, you know, have say. First of all, it's not many artists that can get Lauryn Hill anywhere. But they didn't get Lauryn Hill somewhere on time.
Rory
Six hours ahead of her usual time.
Mall
Six hours ahead of her usual time.
Rory
Was she already in London?
Mall
I assume so. I assume she was over there.
Rory
Were a lot of these artists already there?
Mall
Well, yeah. They knew they was going to touch the stage for wireless.
Rory
No, I just wasn't sure, like, how much Drake planned ahead with, you know, pop can vibes, all these people. If he was behind bringing everyone this specific list outside of obviously, like Dave in Central C and certain people that live out there.
Mall
Yeah.
Rory
Did he fly all these people there?
Mall
Like, I probably did.
Rory
I mean, I love that. I think that's amazing for three days that you want to put these specific artists up there, but that takes a lot of planning. Whoever was the stage manager for the last three days, like, can we get his name? And I hope Drake buys him a Rolex instead of some streamer he's never met. To get all these acts on stage on time three days straight is one of the craziest stage handlers of all time.
Mall
Yeah.
Rory
That's gotta be insane.
Mall
Yeah, the lineup was crazy. It was good to see, you know, Mario and Bobby V. And guys. Vanessa Carlton. I'm still. That's like, that's almost like this can't be happening for real. Like, who sees Vanessa Carlton on stage? Like, when do you see that? So it was dope to see all those people go out, shout out to Drake for doing something I think, you know, not many other artists can do. Like, as far as three different nights, three different vibes, three different set lists. That's incredible to have that much music in your catalog and be able to remember that much, that many bars and so that's. Yeah, that's a lot. Like, I mean, you know, you know, because you've obviously been a part of shows and things like that. But for an artist to do that, that takes a lot. It's a lot of moving pieces behind the scenes, a lot of things that have to go right. From what I know, everything went perfect. Was no mishaps, anything like that. So shout out to the uk, shout out to London and shout out to Drake for an incredible wireless weekend.
Rory
I really like the Central C and Drake snippet that they played. I think it was like day two, he played it. Or maybe it was day three. Put your hands on the DJ booth. That was hard. Like, of course I saw some people killing it online. But that's just what happens these days. If you just don't look at the comments and listen to a snippet and just judge for your self, I think you'll enjoy music a little bit more.
Mall
I think you'll enjoy life a little more. You told my music just like that record is hard.
Rory
I. I like the first part and then when the beat actually switches and drops. For real, it's a joint. Yeah. Like, I hope we get that song sooner than later.
Mall
If he played it, it's definitely dropping soon.
Rory
That record was hard as. Yeah, the only thing I did hate on the Internet during this entire thing was not Drake's opinion, because he's entitled to that. As far as London rappers versus US rappers, it was more at UKRAP Daily with their headline, Drake ends the UK versus US debate. Nah, he didn't end ended. It ended before it started. And Drake saying London rappers are the best lyricists in the world. Cool. And I'm never taken away from the ability of London rappers and lyricism and that Drake is in London, those is guys this and that. But like, we gotta stop with some of these fantasy debates just for the fuck of it. We're still cleaning up London just because Drake. Just because a Canadian rapper was like, nah, nah, it's them. Nah.
Mall
I mean, listen, man, you skepta don't say, listen.
Rory
No, man.
Mall
No, I'm saying Skepta shot. He shot. We waiting for Joyner. Joyner posted this video, was like, I bet he gave us the Cam Newton. I bet. And we know what Cam Newton did after he said I bet. So I mean. I mean, we got.
Rory
Which is one of the craziest sports clips of all time.
Mall
Oh, my God. I bet that's, like, legendary. When Cam Newton was like. He looked at the scoreboard and was like, all right, I bet. I bet. Like, I got this and then went out and won the game, like, so. I mean, we still waiting on Joyner. But I like. I like this type of shit, man. I like the fact that Skeptic jumped out there, you know, he threw some bars at Joyner. Keep it rap.
Rory
You see who I'm standing with?
Mall
Harvard.
Rory
Skepta said, you rap like you went to Harvard. I'm wearing my Harvard alumni shirt.
Mall
You didn't go to Harvard, though.
Rory
I know. Yeah, but neither did Joyner. But we standing with him. Listen, man, I bleed red, white, and blue.
Mall
Yeah.
Rory
Joyner, I'm your. I wore this today for you while you rap like you studied at Harvard. That's not going to get it done. Skepta and I love Skeptical. That's not getting it done. We Joiner Lucas.
Mall
No, we do.
Rory
He is going to. He is going to adopt an entire British accent and rap from your perspective, and you are going to be cooked.
Mall
Somebody.
Rory
You thought Family matters was bad.
Mall
Somebody said, Joyner's gonna rap from the perspective of a crumpet. I was like, all right, man.
Damaris
She know he gotta rap like how Drake did, like, with the Kendrick Beef. Like, you gotta rap as the queen.
Mall
AI the queen. Rap is the queen of London. That's crazy. If Joyner do that, I might be done with rap. I'm gonna be honest with you. If he rap as the queen of London, I might be the guy.
Rory
What if he raps from Prince Harry's perspective and Meghan Markle?
Mall
I'm done. I'm done. It's just. It's just too much. It's like we just doing anything and rapping. What if he gets.
Rory
Then gets Flo Millie to do, like, Megan Markle's part?
Mall
We know one thing. Joyner could rap his ass off, and.
Rory
He'S gonna take this very seriously.
Mall
Oh, no, he's. This is because this isn't for this.
Rory
Typ.
Mall
Listen. This has the potential. The reason why I love this. The reason why I love this whole thing is because this has the potential to you Know, be one of the biggest crossovers that we probably been trying to figure out with, you know, the UK rap scene. Guys from that, you know, across the pond, as they say, crossing over to America Central. Cee obviously had some success.
Rory
Hell yeah.
Mall
Yeah. Over here.
Rory
Dave, Dave, Dave.
Mall
You know what I'm saying? There's been some guys that have crossover, but there's a lot of.
Rory
Giggs and Skeptic were probably the first.
Mall
Yeah. But there's a lot of guys this, you know, Chip J. Huss.
Rory
Yeah.
Mall
There's guys over there, Getz. You know what I'm saying? There's guys over there that could really get into that bag and really rap. But I think that us Americans, sometimes the accent kind of divides us and we don't really want to listen to it. But there's guys over here that can really, really rap and push their pen. So I'm excited just for this moment and this energy to kind of serve as a bridge, if you will, of guys crossing over to the US and, you know, just. Just being aware of other guys around the world that are actually a part of hip hop that actually rapping. Yeah.
Rory
I mean, even when we saw with the Joey Badass versus Everybody, that whole week, everyone was focused on bars for a change. I think that'll be great for a bunch of Americans to actually have to sit and focus on UK bars.
Mall
Yeah.
Rory
Because again, the. The accent can deter certain people. It just kind of is what it is. So I. I hope. Hope this does turn into like an actual great back and forth.
Mall
Yeah, I want to see.
Rory
Okay.
Mall
Yeah, let the.
Rory
We're gonna clean them up.
Mall
But still, listen, I mean, you know, I just want to hear good music, man. I want to hear rappers rap. Like we said earlier this year, I'd rather rap his rap than to be on IG Live dissing each other, man. So if you told my rappers, getting back in the booth and you know, sending shots at each other all for the sport, like nothing, nothing, you know, spilling over into no real beef and in the streets. Cause that's corny shit if guys want to keep it rap. This rap.
Rory
Yeah. Did you ever see Central Seas leakers freestyle a couple years ago when he did like his version of UK Big L Ebonics. That I thought was a great idea because it made Americans looking at an American platform, like try to understand and get past the accent of what are saying. So I hope it does that times 10 with this. And Skepta is no slouch. I am joking around, but I just don't Think Joyner is the one to play with?
Mall
No, no, no. Joyner. Let's be very clear. Joyner. Lucas can rap his ass off, you know, so we never questioned Joyner's ability to rap, but it's, you know, it's gonna be interesting just to see this whole exchange, this back and forth and just to see here, to hear the bars and the music that, you know, these guys create. That's all I'm looking forward to.
Rory
Hard segue. But speaking of insane foreigners and peach. This. This segment is sponsored by Rose Sparks. Colin McGregor might be one of the sickest human beings I've ever seen in my entire life.
Damaris
Duh.
Rory
I know, but like, now it's.
Mall
That's your Irish brother.
Rory
I know, that's why, like, I want to stand with him. But this, this behavior, he must be from Northern Ireland.
Mall
What did he do?
Rory
All right, so at 5:30am today, we're recording this on Monday, July 14th.
Mall
Yeah.
Rory
He sends a request message to Azealia Banks. You can see where it's accept, deny. You can see that him and Azealia Banks had never spoken before. They weren't flirting. They weren't doing nothing. He sent a photo of his dick to Azealia and then said, don't rat. Rats always get caught. Then sent a follow up of another dick pic with a dumbbell attached to his dick to show what it could hold. And then said under that strong dick, lifting weights or something like, hey, get my cardio in. And then Azealia, who didn't hit accept on these because does not know this human being goes, you think of all fucking people, you would send this to me and I wouldn't expose it on the Internet. So she posted Colin McGregor's two dick pics on her Twitter. Which, by the way, if somebody's gonna send you unsolicited, I mean, I feel like that's fair game at that point. If they were like flirting or whatever and she leaked it, then I'd be.
Mall
Like, this is for real.
Rory
This happened a few hours ago.
Mall
More.
Rory
And of all people, shout out to AB we love AB Even if we disagree with her. What of all people you're going to send your dick to, you're sending it to Azealia Banks. She is going to put it on the Internet.
Mall
What? This is the most random shit.
Rory
Like, yeah, well, he's running for president. It's the rollout.
Mall
All right, wait, hold on.
Damaris
The simulation is breaking Mall's brain, confusing him.
Mall
Damaris, this ain't some. This ain't some of the Most random shit like Conor McGregorson and dick pics to Azealia Banks.
Damaris
Maybe he's hacked.
Mall
Yeah, but why send it to Azealia Bank? Why would the hacker send it to Azealia Banks?
Damaris
Because if you send anything to Azealia banks, it's because you want it to get leaked. You want her to post about it.
Rory
Yeah, no, I feel like there's a lot of shit Azalea probably holds down to herself, but you. Not about like if you don't know her at all and you're as famous as Colin McGregor and you just send in like full blown dick pics. One with a weight attached. A dumbbell attached to your dick. What, you think she's gonna scroll past that and charge it to the game?
Mall
This is just odd. I, I, I don't have much to say. Like, this is some. What is this?
Rory
I believe Azilia called it a potato farming penis.
Damaris
That's racist.
Mall
All right, man. I don't know, man. You gotta call, Call Connor, man. Talk to your bro.
Rory
I thought you wanted me to call Azalea.
Mall
No, call Connor. You don't need the car. Call, Call Connor and see if he's. Make sure everything is okay over there, man.
Damaris
Please stop sending dick pics unsolicited. It is sexual assault. Thank you.
Mall
Say what as sexual assault.
Rory
Well, yeah, you shouldn't just send your dick to somebody.
Damaris
Please stop sending dick pics.
Mall
I mean, did we, did we have to say that in 2025? Like, is that, is that something we still even have to say? Like, apparently that is. Yeah, that's, that's wild.
Rory
I've never met the leprechaun, but today's. Wait, he sent that on his birthday and he wants everyone to make a wish and blow out a candle. Funny how big of a closet mag. All right, that's hilarious. But I mean, yeah.
Mall
Shout out to. I don't know, man.
Damaris
Shout out my Gucci.
Mall
Shout out my Gucci.
Rory
Because he's probably six hours ahead too. That's still a crazy time on a Monday to just start.
Mall
Yeah, that just.
Rory
This just seems like if y' all flirting and it's consensual.
Mall
Cool.
Rory
But you just. In the, in the request.
Mall
The cold.
Rory
The request. DMs.
Mall
The cold dick pic is wild.
Damaris
They do that.
Mall
Who is they?
Damaris
They be cold dicking.
Rory
They do cold dicking. It's not a cold call. It's a cold dick. Cold dick.
Damaris
Cold dicking. For real?
Mall
Yeah. That's, that's just crazy.
Damaris
Sending nut videos. Beat off videos. Why you want me to look at you.
Rory
All right, Josh. I saw the edited version. My God, it's a big tv.
Damaris
Why are you turned on by a stranger watching you beat off? Like, why are there nut videos in my crest dms? Like, what are we doing?
Rory
Well, I'm curious, like, how you get to the point of finding a dumbbell and like, strapping it correctly to your dick. Like, how do you get that far into the whole thing?
Mall
Oh, that's what you're. You're trying to uncover. You're trying to break out the out the gate. I'm trying to figure out why would Conor McGregor even send anything to Azalea Banks at all? Anything.
Rory
I mean, the way politics moves now, the campaigns have changed, you know.
Mall
Don't give me that.
Rory
It's not our parents campaign trail anymore. Like, things are drastically different.
Mall
Yeah, yeah, no, I get it.
Rory
You have to think about, like, okay, if he's running for office in. In Ireland.
Mall
I don't know.
Rory
I mean, the lads. The lads may like it.
Mall
They might. Yeah, they might dig that. They might. Like, that's the type of guy we need in office right there.
Rory
All right, Remember we. We broke down that one.
Mall
Was.
Rory
Was he running for Senate, the guy that leaked his. Well, not leaked. Put out his own sex tape.
Mall
What was his name?
Rory
He was some type of politician, but.
Mall
He was it here, right?
Rory
Yeah, I think it was an upstate New York or some. Some. And he was very pro sex worker. And he was. Yeah, dogging out a prostitute. Like, that was his campaign. I forgot his name.
Mall
He's a man of the people. He's out in the streets for real.
Rory
I just want to know how he, like, landed on Azealia.
Mall
Yeah, that's just. That's what I'm saying.
Rory
Even, like, knows. I don't know. It was very funny though. I saw over the weekend that UNO is coming to Las Vegas casinos. I mean, I did look more into it because when I saw that, I was like, all right, I'm gonna get addicted to gambling for sure. I finally found, like my calling card. It's more of like a pop up experience that the owners of UNO are doing with Vegas at the Palms. It's like a UNO themed game night that you can rent out, but I think it's a test to see if UNO could really work in casinos. How would you bet on uno, though?
Mall
Like, they gonna keep finding a way to get y' all money, boy.
Rory
But I'm just curious, like, would you do it off wins? Would you do it off? How do you. How would you bet on Uno?
Mall
Yeah. You would have to bet per hand, right?
Rory
Yeah, yeah. But you're act like a spade's hand moves. But a Uno game could go for four hours. Like, we're doing one bet, and it could be for four hours.
Mall
Yeah. Who's gonna win this game?
Rory
Yeah, it's a weird. I mean, that's not how I feel like casinos would make their money. They're gonna have to find some parlays in. Within that UNO game.
Mall
Oh, for sure.
Damaris
Like, and are y' all gonna let me play the black way? Like, can I do stacks?
Rory
So that was my next question. When I saw this and thought it was just straight up, Uno is gonna be next to the crab table and next to the poker table. I was like, I may hate this because Uno doesn't even know uno's rules.
Mall
I love when y' all say they don't know their rules.
Rory
They don't. Uno does not know their own rules.
Damaris
They don't.
Rory
And I'm not playing their rules at a. I'm not. Especially not betting on that shit.
Mall
But they're gonna definitely have the rules somewhere at the table. So people know. Cause they know people gonna start arguing, like, nah, you can't put that on top of that. And, yeah, y' all can't go up in this establishment with y' all rules.
Rory
You know, in Ocean's 12 or 13, whatever one it is, where Bernie Mac makes up his own game. And then they, like, the casino owners bid on, like, I want this game. They need to have that dealer at one of the UNO tables. Like, hey, real Uno is over here if you want to play.
Mall
What game? Like, the real rules, outside of Uno. What game would get y' all to, like, go to Vegas and start gambling?
Rory
Uno Domino's?
Mall
I ain't gonna lie. They bring, I declare war. I might be in that. Fuck it. Yeah, they do.
Rory
They have war in Vegas.
Mall
No way.
Rory
Where they have war?
Mall
Vegas.
Rory
That's gonna be some off Strip shit.
Damaris
Off strip.
Mall
That's. I never knew that.
Rory
That's at the gambling sp. Not at a casino.
Mall
That's wild. I never knew that. I never knew they had more at the casinos.
Rory
I've never seen it. I think you don't find it odd that they. They don't have dominoes at the casino?
Mall
No. Don't find it out. I know why they don't got. Why. Have you ever seen the Dominicans play dominoes in front of the bodega?
Rory
Of course they played.
Mall
Somebody gets stabbed every hand, and I.
Rory
Don'T like their way of playing Either. I wouldn't want to bring that to the Spanish way. I don't like. The black way is the only way to play dominoes, in my opinion. But are you acting like that doesn't happen with Uno? I get why spades isn't really at the. Because someone's definitely dying.
Mall
But spades will never be a casino game.
Rory
Domino's, I feel like they would get a lot of tours. Dominoes at the surface level of rules is pretty easy. It gets complicated once you really start playing. Yeah, the rules of dominoes are pretty easy.
Damaris
Speed. Y' all remember speed with cards?
Rory
Yes, but explain it again.
Damaris
Speed is when you have the two. Oh God. You have the two decks in the middle. You guys each have your cards and you're trying to get rid of your cards the fastest you grab them. Whoever ends up with the most cards at the end with.
Mall
Nah, it's too much. That sounds like too much space for a to pull some in Vegas.
Rory
And you can't even speed. You can't even touch the cars at a casino.
Mall
Yeah, yeah. Nah, yeah, that will. No, that's not. That's not making it.
Rory
Well, poker you can, but all the mother shits. No, you're not touching anything. And I feel like they could rig that. They could rig speed so much easier than blackjack and everything else that they.
Mall
And this is correct. In Las Vegas, a number of casinos offer the car game casino war. Known for its straightforward rules and fast paced nature. Mirage, Bellagio, Venetian Seeds. Oh, they saw everything. Yeah. I said any spot you gonna probably stay at, they got it.
Rory
Mgm.
Mall
Yeah. Damn.
Damaris
Damn.
Mall
Well, listen, man, Good luck to anybody playing Uno at the casino. You're gonna gamble your, your kids, future.
Rory
Well, it's not there yet. Again, it's a pop up of a Uno. A game night.
Mall
It's gonna be a staple soon though. What about like dodgeball in Vegas?
Rory
Like on the casino floor with the.
Mall
Marriage flushes out now because we can't just, we can't just scoff at it. Flush it out, Dimash. Let me hear like, because they're gonna.
Damaris
Have a separate Uno room. Like what if like you have like.
Mall
They'Re gonna have a table? They're just gon have a Uno table. It's not a room. They not.
Rory
No, they said Uno Social Club in Vegas is just the beginning. We're excited to see how these new experiences inspire places.
Mall
Hotels are set up. They're just gonna have like how they have. They said you go see Elvis right here. You go see Whitney Houston right here. Like that and then right here, a.
Rory
Variety UNO branded table games, including UNO Golf, UNO teams and the fast paced UNO show. Show them no mercy. I don't even know what the that is.
Mall
What is UNO Golf Beach? Look it up. We got to get into it. This might be our call. This might how we get to the Olympics, baby.
Rory
But I mean, shit, if they're doing UNO Golf, they could do UNO dodgeball with Damaris.
Mall
That's what I'm saying. UNO dodgeball.
Rory
So what?
Mall
So what's the reverse?
Rory
Is it like watching the playing the ponies? Like everyone gets to watch the game and bet on their person?
Damaris
Yeah, I feel like that would be fire. That wouldn't be fire.
Mall
UNO dodgeball. Bet on a person.
Damaris
You get to bet on a person.
Rory
But like absolute strangers, people that just be walking through the casino lobby. Not like the Vince Vaughn move. So like just strangers that like, yo, you want to go play dodgeball? And then everyone could just bet on them the same way horses are.
Mall
Or you put people on a rig above the casino floor and you got to pick who you're going to hit with the dodgeball. They don't know. The people down below don't know what's coming.
Rory
Like waitresses with carrying drinks.
Mall
Yeah, you gotta see you. Wow.
Rory
Like how I got kicked out of ESPN Zone.
Mall
You know me. So make it fun. Like making some. Like that dodgeball in Vegas is crazy though.
Rory
I mean, they're gonna bring some type of squid game there soon. That's definitely gonna happen. And there's definitely real life squid games going on in the world for sure. But I think they'll, they'll find a way to do some Vegas.
Mall
Yeah, all these, all these will do it. Escape rooms they got popping up everywhere. That's cool. When they gonna let play American Gladiator? Like when that's gonna pop up?
Rory
I'm with you.
Mall
Like, that would be dope. Like as, as like friends, like groups. You go out and like, yo, we're going to play American Gladiator tonight. You know how fire that would be?
Rory
Was it Joe Mazzulla that was. Did an interview recently that was somewhat like, why isn't there an escape the room where it's like you can reenact how they killed Osama bin Laden. He was like, yo. He was like, yo, imagine you just like taking shots with your friends. Like, yo, we about to go reenact how they killed Osama and you get to do the Seal Team 6. That's hard whole like you get to raid the house.
Mall
I was like, that, that's they was killing.
Rory
It was like, that's genius. I would do that in a heartbeat.
Mall
Hell, yeah. Anything. Like, I would definitely do that.
Rory
Give me a paintball gun.
Mall
I would definitely do that. 100.
Rory
I'm fine.
Mall
American Gladiator. I'm there every weekend. American Gladiator. Like, yo, that's. I'm there every weekend. Like, that's. To me, that's fun. Like, Yeah. I don't know if you Escape room is cool, but I don't know.
Damaris
Yeah, I was on one recently on a date. After a while, you just get hungry. I'm like, yo, let me out.
Mall
Like, yo, don't let me out.
Rory
Yeah, like, let me.
Mall
I was like, let me out this.
Damaris
I'm hungry. Like, what's the answer?
Rory
After you ask the. The people for the second hint, it's like, I want to get out of here.
Mall
Yeah.
Rory
Yeah. Escape the rooms. You have to have a dedicated group to do that.
Mall
Yeah.
Rory
Not like three people that are like, yeah, I'm with it. And one person that's really down. I've done way too many. Escape the rooms. Where I'm like, yo, can we leave and go smoke some more?
Damaris
All right, so, Rory, before I. Before you go to Vegas with me trying to play Uno, I need to know, can you put a draw four on top of a draw two and make it draw six?
Rory
Yeah. Okay.
Mall
Draw four on top.
Rory
A draw four is the trump part of everything.
Mall
You can't put.
Rory
And this is why I can't go to Vegas, because I'm gonna get to that table, and you guys won't play by the right rules, and I'm gonna throw a fucking fit in their security.
Damaris
Why do you think that?
Mall
Because it's a whole different card. It's a draw card. But you could put a draw two on top of a draw two.
Damaris
No, we all know that facts.
Mall
So how could you put a draw four on top of a draw?
Damaris
Because it's a wild.
Rory
Yeah, that. That card is the trump card of everything.
Damaris
It's a wild everything. And once I put that down, you can't go and try to put a draw two on top of that draw for. No, you can't do that.
Rory
Anyone that would do that.
Mall
But you can put the draw four on top of the draw, too.
Rory
Draw.
Mall
Now you see why that makes no sense.
Damaris
And it's a higher number. Yes.
Mall
Yeah, y', all. This is why they made the rules.
Rory
Wait. All right, so you follow the rules.
Damaris
That Uno laid down for you?
Mall
I mean, not all of them, but that rule definitely. You can't put no drill for on top of those two. No.
Rory
So you just follow the constitution. Whatever they say goes.
Damaris
Can I take all the tools out my hand and put them down at one time?
Mall
Can you do what?
Rory
Absolutely, Ken. You just have to do it at one time.
Damaris
If I have five tools in my hand, draw twos. No, regular twos. Any number.
Mall
That's. That's.
Rory
That's the same what's sitting right there.
Mall
Yeah.
Damaris
You said what.
Rory
What is sitting on the pile at that point.
Damaris
Okay, so, okay, there's a green four down, right?
Mall
You could put a green.
Damaris
All the rest of my twos on.
Rory
Hell yeah.
Mall
Absolutely.
Rory
Hell, yeah.
Mall
Absolutely.
Rory
Stacks.
Mall
Yeah. Hell, yeah. With that. Okay. That I agree with. A draw. Full top of a draw, too, is absolutely crazy.
Damaris
Y' all believe in when they said swap hands?
Rory
No.
Damaris
Yeah, that's.
Rory
That new that I like. I don't play that.
Mall
Yeah, we take that out the deck.
Rory
All right, let's. Let's really separate it. If I put down two reverses, is it still my turn?
Mall
Yup.
Rory
All right, cool. Just trying to make sure we're all sane here. No, If I put a double reverse down, it's my turn again.
Damaris
If there's only. If there's two of us playing. Yes. If there's more than two of us playing.
Rory
Playing Uno with two people is nuts.
Damaris
People do that all the time. If you put two reverses down.
Mall
I'm so lonely. I have no buck. No, I'm busy getting. I'm busy. That's why we ain't playing Uno.
Rory
Okay. If we're playing in this circle. Now, you peach, Josh. Me mall. If I put down a double reverse in this circle, it's my turn again.
Damaris
No, stupid. No. Because if you put down. If you put down one reverse, if it's going clockwise, it goes them all. If you put down one reverse, that means it switches to Josh's turn.
Rory
No.
Mall
So. Yeah.
Damaris
What do you mean it reversed?
Rory
Took. All right, if I. If we're going this way, I put down a reverse, it should go to Josh. Right. If we're going this way. But I put down two reverses from Josh, it goes right back to me.
Mall
That's.
Rory
That's. That's how a circle works.
Mall
Yeah.
Damaris
No, bro.
Mall
Agreed.
Damaris
It don't work like that. It just means that it's not moss, yo.
Rory
Trying to reinvent the wheel is crazy. No, if you're in a circle, and I do.
Mall
I agree with certain rules that draw four on top of a draw two. No. Double reverse is my turn again.
Rory
No, if I put down three reverses, then it's back to mole.
Damaris
Because technically, it was never Josh's turn. Because if it was really Josh's turn, then it would. Josh would be going. But since you took Josh's turn away from him by putting two cards down, it's not Josh's turn. You just changed the direction. It's Maul's turn. You just changed the direction of the game.
Rory
Oh, my turn to go again.
Mall
Okay, that's how. That's how I play.
Damaris
Well, that's why I don't play with certain niggas.
Mall
Yeah.
Rory
Okay. If you guys don't have anything, well.
Mall
Sit there and play up one hand for seven hours then, baby D. That's fine. That's what you gonna be doing. Seven hours, one hand, and Josh is.
Rory
Pulling up the UNO rules. Josh, I hate to inform you, UNO doesn't know their own rules. So despite what they say, I don't. That's why I'm scared about Vegas. Are you guys a pluck till you have to play type of person or just the one card?
Damaris
No, I'm not plucking until I. To where we can play if your turn misses.
Rory
Nah. Enjoy the projects. You gotta pluck until you got something missed.
Damaris
What are you talking about?
Mall
You can't go. Say that again.
Damaris
So basically what he's saying is if I don't have any. If it's a green, four down, and I don't have any wilds, any greens, or any fours, he's saying I need to pick from the pile until I have a green, a four, or a wild.
Mall
I've seen people play like that, but I don't really play like that. You pick one, you pick one. If you ain't got it, it's the next person.
Damaris
If we playing with five people, that means I'm about to be shuffling this little ass.
Rory
Yeah.
Damaris
15. I'm not doing that, bro. You can't go. You can't go.
Mall
Yeah. No. Yeah, you pick one. If you ain't got nothing, it's the next person.
Rory
Go cluck till you play.
Mall
Nah.
Damaris
And I'm never playing with you. Yeah, you don't got to worry about it.
Rory
All right? What happens when Vegas makes that the rule?
Damaris
Vegas is going to adhere to the rules that Uno.
Rory
But Uno doesn't even know their own rules. I think Uno thinks you can't even put, like, any green card on a red. Like, if the number matches. You can't even do that.
Damaris
Nah, you can. You can.
Rory
All right. A popular house rule is to draw Until a player has a card to draw.
Damaris
This is not the official rule. Read the full sentence.
Rory
Nothing about UNO is the official rules. They don't know their own rules. How many times do I have to say that?
Mall
All right, anyway, but this is not the official room. Yeah. Gotta play by the rules, man.
Damaris
I hate the way Rory play.
Rory
Okay, are you guys on the side of teaming up with other people in the circle when someone has Uno?
Damaris
Yes.
Rory
To ask. All right, what you like? Let's make sure we get them, and then in the same time, then. Wait, what scheme against them? Like, you betray them once they get Uno.
Mall
What type of is that? First of all, uno is one. Uno, meaning you supposed to be the one.
Rory
I know.
Mall
So how you teaming up with somebody? Yeah, like, it's Uno, like one. Yeah, but so how you like yo? Nah, he got one call left. Yo, let's. Let's kill this right now. What type of stuff? Let's say.
Rory
Let's say I just played, then you. You said uno before we could say anything. And I look at Damaris and be like, yo, you good. You got him.
Mall
What is that? That's nasty. You can't do that. Yes, you can. Where have y' all done that?
Damaris
So I don't go all the way. Like, Rory asking, yo, what do you got?
Rory
I'm just saying a look. No, just a look.
Damaris
But it's like, all right, if I know I got this wild, I might not want to use this wild on him.
Mall
But.
Rory
But we got to keep the game going.
Damaris
But we got to keep the game going.
Mall
But that goes without saying.
Rory
But that's why I like, you could pluck till you play, because if somebody next to me has Uno, and I could potentially get them out the paint, I'm. I may just pluck until I get something to make sure they don't win.
Damaris
And that's. But you can't.
Mall
That's not.
Damaris
Because that is cheating. It's not. You're supposed to pluck until. First of all, that rule is stupid.
Rory
But you're supposed. You don't even know what I have, so how do you know I'm cheating?
Damaris
It doesn't just be. That explains a lot.
Mall
You could use. Uncomfortable.
Rory
How did this just get personal? Like, I'm the first person until I make sure somebody didn't know.
Mall
No, no, but you know, you can't do that.
Rory
Oh, my.
Mall
You can't do that.
Damaris
That's cheating.
Rory
That's with people that hide cars in their pocket. Like, what are we talking about?
Damaris
Okay, Cheating. That's cheating. It's cheating.
Rory
I know what I'm saying. The honorable way of that is you don't know my hand. So if I say I don't got it, no one's the wiser. If I could wiser because you counting cards.
Damaris
If we're waiting for you to get a green Card or A4 or anything like that, and then after you put down that wild card draw four, your next hand, suddenly you got. Got four fours in your hand, we're gonna know. Oh, you were.
Rory
How do you know that? If I have now 20 cars in my hand, you don't know what I plucked. Welcome to strategy. If you didn't have just cuz you didn't win and I had strategy, that's my fault now.
Mall
Strategy. Welcome to strategy. Yo, that was the white yo, you. That's the whitest I ever heard you say.
Damaris
You hear the colonization even in the uno.
Mall
Like, welcome to strategy.
Rory
Black people taught me that rule.
Mall
Welcome to. You wanted to say taught you that rule so bad. I know you wanted to say niggas taught me that rule.
Rory
No, the movie 21 with Patrick Swayze. It was the one that did it.
Mall
Oh, man, I've never played uno with y'. All. Yeah, I saw your. Your response to Stephen A. Smith's response to the.
Rory
The response. The response to the response.
Mall
What's your response to the response?
Rory
That it was weird as it was. That wasn't weird as Fuck.
Mall
Absolutely weird. 100.
Rory
All right, Stephen A. Smith, who. Which Cuomo was he talking to? Definitely talking.
Mall
One of the Cuomos, Mario. Right. Chris.
Rory
Chris Cuomo.
Damaris
Pulled out of nowhere.
Rory
And just because the Cuomo family is like fake liberal and from Queens, they're still very much Bush, Clinton. There's still a last name that people need to, like, be reminded of. They have been in lineages of this forever. They still would be in skull of bones if they didn't pretend to be Democrats. So they were talking together and Stephen A. Smith was saying, why is everyone so outraged about this list? It's a Friday night. I'm about to do shit. This is going to affect my life whatsoever. I would do the same thing. Trump did this and that. It was the weirdest thing ever. We already know Stephen A. Is trying to find some angle to run for some form of office. I think in the next few years. I think he's already gotten his marching orders. I think he's already in it on the campaign trail quietly. I'm not saying for president, but some type of cabinet, something involved because he's great at Speaking. And that's really all you need now in politics is who is going to be very convincing when they speak.
Mall
Now, I will say this is the.
Rory
Most marching order I have ever seen.
Mall
All right, I'm not gonna say it's marching order, but it's. It's weird for him to say now, I will say, because he said he couldn't care less about the Epstein client list and claims most Americans feel the same. Now, I will say I'm not mad at him saying most Americans feel the same, because there are a lot of people who don't give a fuck who is on that Epstein client list. They don't care. We say it all the time. People fake care about shit. They be outraged for a day, and then it's right back to, you know, whatever the fuck they doing. So I understand the sentiment, but the fact that we're talking about kids. Children being raped. I've seen Stephen a care about a player not getting a max deal.
Rory
I've seen him care about Mario Chalmers having the ball in the fourth quarter.
Mall
Yeah, I've seen him get passionate about that and be like, you know, be. That didn't affect, you know, he was busy living his life then, too, but it seemed like that affected him. So, you know, this is where it's a little weird. Like, okay, you would be upset if, you know, Rick Carlisle didn't play somebody in the fourth quarter. You would seem affected by that the next day.
Rory
Couldn't even sleep that night.
Mall
Yeah. So we talking about, you know, men in high positions in different companies around the world who may have been on the island raping children, and Chris Cuomo.
Rory
Just sitting there agreeing with him.
Mall
Yeah, I mean, I would like to know who these people are, so I know who not to align. Somebody like Stephen A. Smith just signed a major deal. If it comes to find out that the CEO of this company that he works for, you know, I'm just saying, don't know for sure, but if a CEO at one of the companies that he signed to is on a client list and. And is. And. And is found to have raped children, I think that would affect Stephen a. A little bit.
Rory
Well, actually, Mo, it's funny you say that. And I want to say this is the. This is a. The source of Jason Whitlock. So everyone chill. But this is a fact. Stephen A. Smith works for Bob Iger, who's the head of Disney. Bob Iger is very close with Ghislaine Maxwell. Bob Iger's son, Robert Maxwell Iger is named after Ghislaine's dad, Robert Maxwell, which we know if you want to get into that whole rabbit hole, it's. Which is. Which isn't even really a rabbit hole of Ghislaine's dad and who he is and what he did and who he's connected to, especially with what's going on currently. But we can save that. I don't want to upset the volume. This is still a family friend friendly show.
Mall
Yeah, as long as Colin wasn't on that list.
Rory
Here's my thing, though. And of course, Trump is not the first president. Every president has done this. But that doesn't upset you that somebody that you sort of aligned with towards the end of his campaign ran on giving us transparency, letting us know that there is a list. It exists. Clinton was doing nasty shit on there. Trump's saying, I don't even know if Epstein killed himself. Hey, the list is on my desk. You ran on giving us transparency, and then on the exact day that it's time to address that, you get mad at a reporter and say, why would you even ask me that? That's not insane to anybody. That's not insane to Stephen A. Smith. And on top of that, it has to do with children being violated in this type of way.
Mall
We keeping it.
Rory
How on earth could Chris Cuomo and Stephen A. Be like, it's Friday night. What the fuck is the problem?
Mall
Listen, what's wrong with y'? All? Let me keep this very simple. Anytime you tell me children are being raped, that affects me anywhere in the world. If you say, yo, kids are being raped there, that bothers me and contradicts.
Rory
Everything that you guys said during your campaign. No, I do not think that just Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine were running this entire ring by themselves. No, I don't know if there's an exact client list where he wrote out every last thing. But you guys had files now all of a sudden, there's no files right now. They were nothing. Oh, these files were destroyed by Biden and Obama. But you said they were there before. If they would have leaked them. None of it makes sense whatsoever. And to then just go, why is everyone so upset about it?
Mall
Listen, man, release the list.
Rory
Absolutely insane to me. And I'm not saying that I even think Trump was on that list. He's trying to protect himself, but clearly he's trying to protect somebody because he's contradicting every last thing he said.
Mall
Listen, man, if there is a list, release the list. We deserve to know. We need to know. Point all these nasty out and get rid of them. Simple. It needs to.
Rory
It would have happened already, no matter what side was in office. Because I think it was both Democrats and Republicans involved with both that.
Mall
Oh, absolutely.
Rory
So it would have been leaked if, If Biden had it and it had a bunch of Republicans, he would have put it out. If it was just them, Trump, which he said he was going to do, and he said it was nasty. He said we were going to find out insane things, he would have put it out. It was just a bunch. If it was crooked Hillary, Sleepy Joe, Big, Big Mike, all that shit, it would have been out. But it's not. They're. There's one common denominator here. That's all I'm saying.
Mall
Well, death to anybody who rapes kids. Put that on there. Clip it, Peach. Yeah, you rape, you rape children, you deserve to die, period.
Rory
That's the ig clip.
Mall
That's it. That's the clip.
Rory
Let's change the energy a bit. Shout out to Clay Thompson. I mean, he strategically put himself in the background of that photo.
Mall
And, And I said, it's gonna be funny if that really is Klay.
Rory
But it looked just like. I don't think anyone's doubting that that was Klay Thompson.
Mall
No, no, no, no. I mean, well, now we know it was Klay Thompson, so. I mean. Yeah, but no, I mean, you know, you know my question be though, like, what's. And not that it doesn't matter, but it's just like, why it gotta be like. Oh, like that picture right there, like, why it has to be like this whole. You know what I mean? Like a rollout type. It's like, bro, if you dating somebody cool, you just dating. I mean, we don't gotta how it works anymore. Yeah, but that's just. I don't know, man. I mean, shout out to them though, you know, if they're happy and, you know, having fun and, you know, enjoying their time together and, you know, listen, man, shout out to Clay Thompson. Shout out to Meg. But I don't know, I just, I just, I just. The whole, you know, Easter egg and. Is that him in the vid and pick and all of that, it's just. I don't know, man.
Rory
You didn't think that was romantic?
Mall
Okay, let me not sound like a hater. Yeah, it was romantic because if I say no, that sounds like I'm hating and I'm not hating. Like, that's. But that's what people gonna say. No, but, yeah, I. But it just. A lot of it seems staged, like it just seems too staged. A lot of it.
Rory
Okay, but even like I like shout.
Mall
Out to Donovan Mitchell and Coco Jones. I like how they did it. Popped out, he's engaged.
Damaris
I love that.
Mall
You understand. I knew that they were dating, but you know what I'm saying? It's just. I like the way I like that. Like, yo, listen, we engaged. You know, pop out picture the ring, you know, on vacation.
Rory
Cool.
Mall
Like that's like, you know, Clay sitting down on the tannin bed. Is that him?
Rory
I mean, here's.
Mall
All right. I don't know, man. It's just a little stage as much.
Rory
As it is stage and it is rollout stuff. Whether they're actually in love or not, who cares? Still happens. Still. It could still very much be love. But this is our career. So let's position it to help both of our careers because that's what people care about. This has been going on for ages. The People magazine exists because of that.
Mall
Because.
Rory
Because of actors and actresses calling paparazzi's to get caught. It happens all the time. So I'm not going to give them too much. Let's not act like civilians. Don't do this either. With 100 followers.
Mall
Yeah, but that makes.
Rory
There's people that I went to high school with and I see somebody in the background, I'm like, you staged this.
Mall
Yeah, of course. But that's weird too though. That's weird.
Rory
Like when people cry, it's human behavior. It's not just celebrity crying.
Mall
The camera and you know that they had to do it again because they, they messed up the first one. They messed up the first one so they got to stop, delete, cry again. Like you know, you know the videos. Like I saw a video one the other day, somebody I follow and she posted a video of herself like laughing at something she saw. And I could tell, like you can see that she started laughing as soon as she pressed record. And it's like, delete that. Because now I'm looking at you like you a bozo and I you think you cool in real life, but this is some bozo you doing.
Rory
Did you see the video, Josh? I'm gonna send this to you right now. Of the single mother making herself cookies or a cake on her birthday because no one would. Would do it for her. She was crying while baking cupcakes.
Mall
See illness.
Rory
And then a guy did the single father version and in between stopped crying, changed the lighting. It was one of the funniest videos of exposing people crying on camera is absolutely.
Mall
It's crazy, man.
Rory
The Way she. It was a whole production of her crying, making the cupcakes. There's no way you just do that on the spot. What, to set up your entire.
Damaris
Oh, I remember this.
Mall
That's. But that's like a mental illness, though.
Rory
I think it is.
Mall
It definitely is.
Rory
He's setting up delay because to even do that and start crying is insane.
Mall
Yeah.
Rory
He putting pre workout in his. Okay. And then you gotta stop six minutes.
Mall
Yeah. Bring the light closer. Yeah.
Damaris
Are they mentally ill for doing it, or are the people who watch that and feed into that mentally ill?
Mall
Oh, no, you're gonna find your tribe. Damaris. Mentally ill is gonna find the mentally.
Rory
Ill. That's the biggest.
Damaris
They make a lot of money off that. That lady. I think that lady has over a million views on that. And you get paid by views because.
Mall
Well, yeah, because people are gonna share them. Like, look at this dumb shit. Like, you know, it is what it is. But, like, the people that be in the comments, like, I feel y' all cried Watching this mentally ill yo setting.
Rory
Up lighting to cry is crazy.
Mall
Yeah, man, I'm telling you, that's. That's just a different level of just like, you just need this attention. You need it like, you're gonna go crazy if this video only gets 20 views.
Rory
Somebody commented crazy thing. Her husband made a response video. She doesn't even have custody of the kids.
Damaris
Oh, yeah. I remember when all that was going on.
Mall
Yo, mentally ill, mentally ill, man. Shout out to the mentally ill, though.
Rory
Also, again, I just think putting pre workout in your cupcake flour is the fun.
Mall
You know, why not?
Rory
Before we get to voicemails, I do want to hear Maul crash out at bleacher reports. Top 100 NBA players of all time that came out today.
Mall
Wait, what? Now, see, y' all be trying to pull me into these arguments, bro. Don't.
Damaris
It's called production.
Mall
Don't pull. Don't show me no list. If they don't have Michael Jordan number one. I don't even.
Rory
Okay, Michael Jordan is number one.
Mall
All right, cool. Then we could talk about the list.
Rory
All right, Can I give you. Can I give you one through 11, ironically?
Mall
Okay.
Rory
Number one, Michael Jordan. Number two, LeBron James. Three, Kareem. Four, Magic. Five, Russell. Six, Shaq. Seven, Duncan. Eight, Bird. Nine, Will. 10, Steph. 11, Kobe.
Mall
Blasphemy.
Rory
It's blasphemy. It's insane.
Mall
That's blast.
Rory
Like, I feel like Bleacher Report called into Complex and said, how do you start blasphemy?
Mall
First of all, tell us what to.
Rory
Do with this list. I know you know nothing about Sports Complex, but shake up this list for us.
Mall
This is. No, no, absolutely. Absolutely. LeBron James is not above Kobe. He's not above Kobe at 11 is. Yeah, this is. Yeah, this is black. But, you know, maybe shuffle that top 10. 11. Shuffle it. And I'm not mad at it. But, yeah, those names are definitely. Probably in my top 11, minus probably Bill Russell. He's probably not in my top 11. Just because that's all heads are gonna hate. Well, I mean, that's just way before my time.
Rory
Oh, heads got Bill Russell at number two.
Mall
I mean, and I'm not mad at it because they. That they were, you know, that was a part of their, you know, era. So they have a different, you know, connection to it. But I. Me, personally, I wouldn't have Bill Russell in my top 10 personally.
Rory
How do you feel about.
Mall
I'm not mad at it, though. Basketball. If you just talk about the game of basketball in the history of the NBA, because this is the top 100 NBA, so you can't talk about the history of the NBA and not have Bill Russell in there. I'm just saying, me personally, I don't know if he's in there above. He's definitely not in my top 10. Above Kobe Bryant. No, absolutely not.
Rory
How do you feel About Jokic at 17 above Dirk?
Mall
Above Dirk.
Rory
I'm not saying when. When it's all said and done and Jokic's career is over.
Mall
Nah, I can't put him above Dirk. Dirk. Dirk had no busy beating that Miami Heat team, bro. I still don't. I still don't. I still can't believe Dallas beat that Miami Heat team like that. That was. Are you talking about D. Wade, Braun, and Bosch in their prime? Like, that's the fact that he. He beat that team. To me, he's definitely above Jokic for sure.
Rory
How do you feel about the logo being at 15?
Mall
Yeah, he only got one. He only got one.
Rory
I get. I get it. But nah, Kobe number is not better than Dr. J.
Mall
No, absolutely not.
Rory
Can we. Well, Dr. J, I get what Jerry west did.
Mall
No, Dr. J is after. He's after the Jerry West.
Rory
That's what I'm. I'm saying. Jerry west is not better than Dr. J. Dr. J is a better player than Jerry West.
Mall
Dr. Jerry West. I mean, they got him before Dirk and YIC and. And kg. Yeah, N. This is. This is. Draymond green is number 88 on the top 100. And Jason Tatum. Draymond. Jason Tatum. Draymond Green got four rings. He got four rings. Defensive player of the year. A bunch of the first team, all NBA defense. Like, he got the resume. I mean, he's not going to score a bunch of points, but he's going to impact the game. And he's. He's. He's a big part of those four rings.
Rory
He absolutely is.
Mall
Yeah. So, I mean, you know, I know the name doesn't jump out at you. It's not sexy, but if you look at his resume, Draymond Green is definitely.
Rory
Like, for sure, huge contributors to Four Rings, 100%. But it, like, let's go through Alonzo mourning stats like Alonzo. That's kind of crazy to me.
Mall
I got Draymond above Alonzo.
Rory
Interesting.
Mall
I will put Draymond Green above Alonzo. Draymond Green got four rings, bro. And he's.
Rory
He's not.
Mall
He wasn't just on the team. He's in the star. He's the anchor of the defense on those four.
Rory
Okay. Alonza Morning has been the anchor of how many no rings?
Mall
Wait, no, he got one. He got one with. Did he get one with Miami?
Rory
I think. Okay.
Mall
Yeah, but he wasn't a big part of that, though.
Rory
Yeah, but he was the entire Miami Heat franchise before that. Unless you think Eddie Jones.
Mall
Yeah, but they didn't win no rings, though, before Shaq got this.
Rory
I'm sure there's a bunch of players on this top 100 that don't have rings.
Mall
Draymond Green got four of them, and he's a big part of. He's a defensive anchor on all four of those teams. We can talk about Steph, we can talk about kd. We can talk about Klay Thompson. You don't win those four rings without Draymond Green's. First of all, his playmaking ability, which I think is underrated, and definitely without his defensive. Just defensive iq, I will say.
Rory
Then right next to him is Tony Parker.
Mall
Tony might need to be high up on that list.
Rory
That's what I'm saying. Because I'm with you. All right. If. If Draymond with the rings. Cool. Tony Parker has the rings, the stats, the impact, the legacy.
Mall
Yeah, Tony might need to be high up.
Rory
Tony at 86 is nuts.
Mall
Tony might need to be high up. But that's not a knock, though. Cause a hundred players is not a lot. When you think about the entire NBA, the history of the NBA, that's not a lot. It's been a lot of great players to come through the NBA, but you Know, we just. Kobe Bryant is not number 11, though. We could just.
Damaris
Can we find their stops there, what their scoring sheet was like, what they based it off of.
Mall
They not gonna give us that.
Damaris
Their criteria.
Mall
They not gonna give us that.
Rory
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Mall
Yeah.
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Mall
You've got mail.
Rory
Of course we do. These are sponsored by Boost.
Mall
Who?
Rory
Boost.
Mall
Good.
Rory
Boosted. Hey, everyone, it's Damon from Maryland. I'm the listener who invited you guys to the wedding last year. So I have two. The first is needing a piece of advice. So I'm in an interracial marriage, and without even thinking about it, I call.
Mall
My wife at least once a day.
Rory
And we're at the stage where people.
Mall
Are asking us, when can you hold on? What did he just say?
Rory
Hold on. All right.
Damaris
Conversation. Like mid production.
Rory
No, no, no, no, no. We'll have a pre production right now. We met this lovely couple I remember, at Howard Theater.
Mall
Yeah.
Rory
The husband is black.
Mall
Yes.
Rory
The wife is white.
Mall
Yes.
Rory
Hawaii. She's a Yes. I won't say her last name.
Mall
Yeah.
Rory
But I had to ask Pete from Hot 97 if he was related to her because it was in the same town.
Mall
Yeah.
Rory
So, yes. Everyone calm down.
Mall
I just, I, I, they caught me off guard. I was like, wait, what did he just say? But okay, I got it.
Rory
It's. This is not a situation where the husband is white.
Mall
That's all I was. I'm trying to clear that up for everyone.
Rory
Okay. Yeah.
Mall
All right, cool.
Rory
Go ahead a joke and say, I can't wait to call my son little. But we're trying to figure out what's the best balance of making sure that our future children are able to appreciate and have both sides of our respective backgrounds traditions. And a lot of that can be different when you are interracial. So any thoughts on that would be appreciated. I mean, I'm probably gonna say this one, but I do want to say again, Damon, I was looking for your email before we did send you guys flowers for your wedding. They just weren't delivered. And I don't know if that's a Chevy Chase thing, but, yeah, we did send them. I wanted to prove and show you the receipt, but I couldn't find your email in this. But now that we have it, and I want to make it clear, he's black.
Mall
Okay, got it. Being biracial is such a cheat code sometimes.
Rory
Okay.
Mall
Because it's like if my dad is black, my mom is white. Like I can say. Right. But then it's like I have to spend some holidays with the white side of my family where, you know, it's like, you know, but you can get that off. It's like, there's nothing wrong with that. Like, I'VE grew up in, you know, uptown with biracial kids and didn't even know they was really biracial until, like, you meet their parents. Like, oh, like, your mom, like, you would never know. Just playing ball with them every day in the park. Like, he's. His mom's white. You know what I'm saying? You wouldn't know that. So I get what he's saying, though. Like, he's looking forward to, like, you know, using that word with his. With his. With his son, and it's like. And he can. Why can't he?
Rory
Would you call Amara that?
Mall
You see? No. No, I definitely would not. But your case is different, though, because you're Amara's mom. She's. Is she.
Rory
Kia is biracial. Yeah.
Mall
Okay, see, that's where it's a little. Yeah, you get what I'm saying? It's a little different there, but Kia.
Rory
Is as far as, like, identity forward facing a black woman. For sure.
Mall
For sure. But, yeah, and she can say. And she can say the N word.
Rory
I mean, I'm not the one that's allowed to make those rules, but.
Mall
Yeah, but she. She can and she does.
Rory
Yeah.
Mall
This is what I'm saying.
Rory
But if she called Amara that, I'd probably laugh.
Mall
It'll be a little slightly. Would you just say, like, it's a little weird?
Rory
I would probably laugh. I'm not gonna lie.
Mall
Yeah, but.
Rory
But I would smack Amara if she said that.
Mall
Right?
Rory
Like, she's not allowed to say that.
Mall
Right.
Rory
But if Kia called her that, I'd laugh that, especially because Amara is so forward facing white.
Mall
She should be your twin, bro.
Rory
You're calling her. That is. But my black friends called me that my whole life.
Mall
But listen, didn't they crack the code? Aren't gingers scientifically black?
Damaris
No, that was a joke.
Mall
Ask. Oh, it was?
Damaris
Yes.
Mall
I thought they traced it back to, like, Africa.
Damaris
That pissed me off.
Mall
They didn't.
Rory
Well, it wasn't a joke. They did do a line of history. Whether that's true or not is what the debate was.
Mall
Oh, okay, so it wasn't, like, an actual history. Like, dug into that, though. Like, for real. I knew they were.
Rory
It depends if it's accurate or not. That's really all it was. All right, but, I mean, you see, I didn't lean into it because I don't know how accurate it is.
Mall
Yeah, I mean, you got to do your research on the right side of this thing.
Rory
Listen, man, you need to reuse.
Mall
You should be the one to research.
Rory
That every Time I bring up the research of what the Irish went through, I'm told to go sit in the corner. And I agree.
Mall
Well, that's only because you try to, like, on the. On the. Like how we just did the bleach report top 100. You try to push that up like, it's like, bro, we Kobe at 11. Debatable. Yeah, I get what you're saying there. I got an argument. Yeah, I got an argument. You right.
Rory
Go to the West Indies, a bunch of Irish colonies, and they're based off one and one thing only.
Mall
Yeah.
Rory
And it ain't we were not the masters.
Mall
You got an argument there. You're right.
Rory
But, yeah, this is more of a you and Damaris call here. I don't know what to tell. He's telling from the white side. I would probably laugh.
Mall
Yeah, I would. I would definitely. If my child's mother was white and I had a biracial kid, I'm definitely calling my son. Yo, what's up? Come here. Definitely. Yeah. Why not?
Rory
Because it's your kid. Maybe you shouldn't just say that.
Mall
Yeah, how you supposed to talk to your kids without that relationship with your kid?
Rory
What's their name, though? Like, maybe just call them by their name.
Damaris
Jaden, Kaden, Brayden, Nevaeh.
Mall
Oh, yeah, those are some names you had.
Rory
Interracial couples love it. Aiden.
Mall
Yeah, I think that might check out a lot of mixed race, mixed, mixed kids. I know is definitely. Aiden is in there for sure. Okay, you got a point.
Damaris
Nevaeh, Jasmine.
Mall
I don't know about. I don't know about. Nevaeh.
Damaris
Nevaeh. Oh, they love heaven spelled backwards.
Mall
Who?
Rory
Wait, I never even put those two and two together. This is why you won the spelling bee. Holy shit. Wait in advance. Heaven backwards.
Mall
Oh, my God, I want to spell. Let me first of all. But.
Rory
I. I never put that name.
Mall
Who was the first person to come up with that? That's a for sure. That's. I know when I see. Because that's heaven. The Bible church. Yeah. Nevaeh, black woman, definitely named her daughter. Nevaeh was the first one. Without a doubt. Yeah, but if your kid is. Yeah. What's up? How was your day? Yeah, why not? It's my son.
Rory
Okay, but what do you think that conversation is like with the child once they become of age and aware and like, that's how one parent talks to them. And then I'm like, hey, Aiden, no.
Mall
We would have that. We would have that talk in the house. Like, you know, I mean, like, you can't call nobody that. But what can call you that? That.
Rory
I'm not sure if this lovely married couple that we met, I assume this is like their baby reveal. They have a child on the way.
Mall
He's preparing.
Rory
Congrats, by the way. Sometimes the crap shoot with interracial couples like you, sometimes you could look like Kia. Sometimes you could look like me.
Mall
Yeah.
Rory
I wouldn't get ahead of yourself. That could be a very white baby. You don't know that yet. What does he look like, my man Alex? Interracial. Yeah.
Mall
He calls his white wife.
Rory
Oh, that's what I was saying. When I was growing up, everyone called me that word that was not white. All my black friends call me that word.
Mall
I'm so glad you cleared up. Yes.
Rory
I could see black friends call me that forever.
Mall
Oh, for sure. I know that some of my white.
Rory
Friends use the word. Don't get it wrong. Yeah, I was called that all the time. I just don't.
Mall
You know what I love?
Rory
He shouldn't get ahead of himself because his. His baby could be very white. He just doesn't know.
Mall
I just love how people get so, like, uneasy about that. This conversation like that with 20, 25, and people are still like, when that word. Oh, you can't. What, Shut the up.
Rory
It's uneasy for our. To our listeners. I know if we were off mic right now, I wouldn't have to explain that to you guys.
Mall
No, definitely.
Rory
You know that. Yeah. But, yeah, you have to explain to the listeners. No, I didn't mean it like that.
Mall
I get it. I totally understand that. Yeah.
Rory
But, you know. Yeah, I mean, I guess it's. It's fair game for anybody at that point.
Mall
To Damon, what does your child look like? If your child is, you know, looks more like me than Rory, I think it's okay.
Damaris
Just don't call your child a. Why are we, like, why are you calling into the podcast, like, to ask that, like, why do you want to get that off so bad? Like, you know what I'm saying? Why you want to get that off. Off your wife so bad? Just weird to me. I don't know. I could be high.
Mall
And that ain't weird weird. It's weird when people. It's weird when people act like it's weird to me at this point.
Damaris
It's like, bro, why is this. No, it's not weird. It's weird. Why is it so important?
Mall
It's not important. That's what. And I think that's what this is. It's just like, they're making. It was not. It's not important. It's just like, he's. He's laughing at that.
Rory
Yeah, I think he's, like, half kidding as well.
Mall
He's kidding. Like, that's. That's where I find it when people like, oh, you can't shut the up, man. Who cares about. I don't care about that word, man. Get out of here. It's not that. To me, it's not that serious.
Damaris
We know.
Mall
I grew up in the Bronx, but. But I also grew up in a very mixed culturally environment.
Damaris
Yeah, you was letting them get that off. You shouldn't have.
Mall
Who.
Damaris
But we've had that conversation already in.
Mall
My hoods, Dominicans, Puerto Rico. Are you kidding me? And if you want to go through the history of Dominicans and Puerto Ricans, we all black.
Damaris
We all black until it's time to.
Mall
Well, then that's a whole nother conversation. But I'm saying, in my community, we all black. When it's time to say, in my community, the people I grew up with, we was definitely family. Like, without a doubt. I could go to their house, eat, sleep, do whatever I want to. Vice versa, come to my crib, same shit. That's why I don't get offended by Dominican or Puerto Rican using that word. Because it's like, bro, I grew up, like, to this day, those are my brothers. Like, and it's a word. Like, it's not that serious to us. It's not that serious.
Rory
That was the first. Remember the first controversial N word Spanish thing when JLo said it with Ja Rule. Thought MTV was about to melt down.
Mall
Yeah. They don't know how to act. They get so uneasy about that.
Rory
I was like, in eighth grade or. Or junior high when that came out. And that was the first time I had found out that Spanish people couldn't say it. I never. My whole life I'd heard Spanish people say. I just thought it was white people who couldn't say it. I was like, wait, Spanish people can't say that shit.
Mall
I can promise you, when Fat Joe said that and leaned back, nobody was offended by that.
Rory
No, that was. It was sort of a combo.
Mall
I remember half the niggas in the squad got a scar on it. Nobody was like. He said, I can promise you that. He saw the fuck.
Rory
And Fat Joe's addressed that before because.
Mall
Of course he has fat dro you want to. You see. Have you seen his crew? Some of his best friends, like, are you. He's from the blues, bro. Cut it out, bro. We all Grew up together. We all family. Like, cut it out.
Rory
So Jenny from the block can't say it, though.
Mall
Jlo. Yeah, she could say it. She from. She from Castle Hill. She definitely said that. She growing up. Are you kidding me?
Rory
She said it with Ja Rule.
Mall
She might not say it now because, you know, she's in a different world and you know, just.
Rory
Do you think she. Do you think she called Ben that?
Mall
I think Ben called her that with his Boston accent.
Rory
Don't put that on Ben.
Mall
You.
Rory
That was also not a Boston accent at all.
Mall
Yeah, they put like, khaki. Naga, Naga, Naga. I don't know how they say it in Boston.
Rory
They would say it the way Mark Wahlberg said it and got arrested for.
Mall
When we talked to Millies. Did Millie say he uses. No, don't put that.
Rory
Don't know. Don't put that on Ben. Or Millie said.
Mall
No, I'm just joking with Ben, but I'm trying to think if Millie's. I don't. Millie's has never said it.
Damaris
No, that's someone that.
Rory
Don't put Millies. I've never heard Millie.
Mall
No, I'm. The thing about his bars. Millie's. Millie's never said it. No, he's never said it. And if you look. See his crew for sure.
Rory
I mean, listen, I've. I'm out of this entire conversation. I think couples should do what they want to do.
Mall
Depending on what your son looks like.
Rory
I think the word has a deep rooted disgusting.
Mall
If your son looks like Rory, probably not the best idea.
Rory
Okay, but if you go through Canelo looks just like Connor. Does it matter about the image? What does it matter about the roots?
Mall
Well, neither one of those gentlemen are using that word.
Rory
So Canelo's definitely using that word.
Mall
Nah.
Rory
And Connor's probably using it too, as he's sending dick pics.
Mall
Yeah, yeah.
Rory
Azealia cropped out a certain part. I'm sure he went on after he saw that Azealia exposed it and used a word.
Mall
That is crazy, man.
Rory
Well, do we have another voicemail? Sorry, Boost. I got my wife floor seat for the upcoming Boys Mind tour when it comes to Baltimore this fall.
Mall
Boys mine. Okay.
Rory
Now, if there's one person my wife loves more than Brandy and Monica, it's Damaris.
Damaris
Oh.
Rory
So, baby, if you're up for it, would love to know if you'd be up for accompanying her for her surprise birthday gift to the Brandy and Monica concert. Love the pod. Appreciate everything.
Mall
Thanks. That trying to have a Tracy after yo.
Rory
All right, you beat me to It. That tricycle is the first thing he was thinking of.
Mall
Tracy Murray.
Rory
What was Tracy McGrady? What was he on the list?
Mall
Bump up a few spots trying to.
Rory
Get that rob 49.
Mall
You going?
Damaris
I will definitely go. He might not want. I called him weird for wanting to call his son a nigger. So he might take that back. But if it is in a city near me, I would love to accompany.
Mall
No, you got to go to.
Rory
It's Baltimore.
Mall
Baltimore?
Damaris
Oh, balt. Baltimore, like Maryland?
Mall
Yeah.
Rory
No, the other Baltimore.
Damaris
I'm going to pass the other one.
Mall
You know, I am.
Damaris
I am actually going to pass.
Mall
Why?
Damaris
But I am very appreciative.
Mall
Why are you not going to see Brandy and Monica in Baltimore?
Damaris
Because I. I have a. I have a very busy schedule. I can't.
Mall
You ain't got. You don't even know what date the show is. Yo, Baby D, stop this. Yo, what date is the show? Don't look at your computer. It's August. No, no, no, no. It's in August. Cut this.
Damaris
Baby D, I have a very busy August.
Mall
You ain going on in August. Get the out of here.
Rory
Yo, see, it's not even. All right. It's not even August, though.
Mall
See?
Damaris
Oh, when is Alex birthday? In September.
Rory
That doesn't matter either. November 2, 2025.
Damaris
You ain't Miami.
Mall
No, you will not.
Rory
I won't.
Mall
You're gonna be in Baltimore.
Damaris
No, I really. I really gotta go to Miami.
Mall
Yo, Baby D, she don't want to be. No, I'm not.
Damaris
I'm not being funny. I'm being.
Mall
Just say you don't want the threesome. That's all.
Rory
I'm. I mean, cuz, he.
Mall
He gonna want you and his wife to act like Brandy and Monica come once y' all get home.
Rory
He's the boy.
Damaris
I. I can't. Oh, it's a Sunday. I definitely can't go to. I can't do that. No, we got to work on Monday.
Rory
I pick. I'll pick you up from Baltimore.
Mall
That is right there. Who you talking about?
Damaris
Baltimore is far.
Rory
Three hours.
Mall
This is three hours from here.
Damaris
If you fly me out, I'll go.
Mall
40 minute flight.
Damaris
That's fine. If he. That's why I said if he flies me out, I'll go, but I'm not driving down to Baltimore.
Mall
Yeah, 40 minute flight. He'll fly you out there, put you right on spirit. Spirit?
Rory
Yeah.
Mall
40 minutes. You spirit for 40 minutes.
Rory
There's no way there's a Spirit from New York to Baltimore. There's no way Spirit does that flight.
Mall
Why not look it up. I'm willing to bet they do.
Rory
There's no way. If not Frontier, they don't have enough planes to do a 40 minute flight like that.
Mall
You bugging. They got planes.
Rory
Spirit, NYC to Baltimore. Ain't no way. That's sick.
Mall
They got one. I'm looking now.
Rory
Yeah. $72. That's cheaper than driving or taking the train.
Damaris
That's cheaper than my Uber, baby. I'm not flying Spirit to Maryland.
Mall
It's a 40 minute flight. Might be less than that.
Damaris
Baltimore is already spirit.
Rory
It's 72 or it's $19 a month.
Mall
Yo, lay away in the ticket is crazy. Putting the ticket on.
Damaris
That's not. First of all, don't do that. Don't.
Rory
And this is for regular people. If you do this in advance, put tickets on layaway.
Damaris
Most people had.
Rory
I was judging people on layaway by.
Damaris
He just said putting a ticket on layaway is crazy. I just wanted to clarify, but I wasn't shaming.
Mall
I'm just saying that the fact that that's an option, like, yo, so you ain't got no excuse. You can get there.
Damaris
I'm not paying for it.
Mall
No, I'm saying. So he could. He got that. He got $72.
Damaris
Yeah. Sir, if you want to fly me out to Maryland to go to the show with your wife, I will go.
Mall
All right, cool. Baby D going.
Damaris
But between the flight, the hotel, all that. He don't want to pay for all that shit.
Mall
What you mean the flight? Hotel? The flight is $70. The hotel gonna be 200, 300 cash for a night. He got that.
Damaris
You saying for a night. Like the night comes with me with anything else other than me going to the concert.
Mall
No, I'm just saying, like, you keep.
Damaris
Trying to put sex trafficking.
Mall
No, no, no, no, no. I'm just saying he could get you to Baltimore for the show, for the night.
Rory
He can get you.
Mall
That's a light ticket.
Rory
This so funny with Spirit. I. I put in the actual dates and everything is na. Because they just don't know if they're going to go there yet. Like, you could get a 70 ticket today to go to Baltimore. We don't know in November if we're going to have a flight at that time.
Damaris
Yeah, you know.
Rory
All right, so we out. I'll go with you. Now you 19amonth.
Mall
Why you blocking? He trying. Okay.
Rory
You don't think I got something in Baltimore?
Mall
I'm not saying you don't, but I'm.
Rory
Just saying I'll Fly with her and they'll never see me again.
Mall
Okay. All right. I thought you mean you was going to go to the show and all that, like.
Rory
No, no, no, no. It's only two tickets.
Mall
Okay, Got you.
Rory
No, I'll just go to B. I'll get some crab cakes.
Mall
Yeah. Oh, love the crab, Casey. Every time I go down some old.
Rory
Bay, like, love it. No, I'm not going to the show. I'm going.
Damaris
Just go to B. I am not sleeping with this man and his wife, y'.
Mall
All. A, you don't want to make content.
Damaris
Like, what tier. What tier of Patreon is that? A fan?
Rory
What?
Damaris
What tier Patreon is that in the.
Rory
Hypothetical, though, is the N word alone out.
Mall
He's a black man.
Damaris
Y' all gonna piss me off. Y' all want to piss me off today?
Rory
That was the point.
Mall
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I figure, baby do. Of course we do. All right, well, it's been fun talking to you. Rambunctious group of people.
Damaris
Oh, love island ended.
Rory
Oh, it's done.
Mall
Done.
Damaris
Oh, yes, I heard the series finale was last night. I hosted a party. You said what?
Mall
Everybody was upset.
Damaris
No, I think the crowd favorite person won. Maybe not the crowd favorite couple. Their favorite person, Alondra did not win it. Amaya Papaya won.
Mall
I don't know who that is. I didn't get that far.
Rory
I didn't get that far.
Damaris
Okay.
Rory
It's a girl named Amaya Papaya.
Damaris
Her name is Amaya. And shout out to Amaya. She became, like, the darling. She became America's sweetheart, like, before.
Mall
Who got one? Did Ace win?
Damaris
No, Ace went home a little while ago.
Mall
Too many durags. Okay.
Damaris
But yeah, Amaya, like, Fenty was writing her like, Amaya. No matter whether you want to lose, when you come home, like, you have it, like, hit us when you get home. Like, she's become, like America's sweetheart. And her and her partner won last night.
Mall
Who was a partner?
Damaris
His name was Brian. I think he might have been a bombshell.
Mall
Don't know who none of these people are.
Damaris
Yeah, you guys haven't got.
Mall
Yeah, yeah.
Rory
And also Damaris, Kelly Rowland and Money Long is. Is on this lineup.
Damaris
I know. No, I want to go to the show. I was considering going in Atlanta, but I mean, if I have to go.
Mall
In, consider going to Atlanta. Homie just called from. Be more closer than Atlanta Got the ticket waiting for. She busy foreign. It's been a nice conversation with people, man. I just want to say, you know, it's good to see y' all again, man. We'll talk to you on a couple days. Be safe, be blessed. I'm that he's just ginger. The marriage is going to Baltimore and.
Rory
Don'T say that word. I'm just ginger.
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Podcast Summary: New Rory & MAL
Episode 390 | Let The Pod Swag Em Out
Release Date: July 15, 2025
The episode kicks off with the hosts diving into a passionate discussion about the annoyance of frequent phone notifications. Rory expresses strong disdain for phones set to loud and vibing due to their persistent light notifications.
Damaris and Mall chime in, sharing their preferences for silent modes and criticizing those who keep their phones perpetually active.
The conversation shifts to recounting the hosts' weekend activities, particularly focusing on Damaris attending the Keisha Cole concert. They discuss the concert's lineup, including performances by Lil Kim and Jadakiss, and share their experiences navigating various eateries in Brooklyn before the event.
The hosts commend Keisha Cole's performance, highlighting her emotional delivery and the memorable setlist.
A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to reviewing The Clips' latest album. Rory and Mall offer high praise for the album's authenticity, production quality, and the strategic promotional rollout.
They discuss standout tracks like "Chains and Whips" and "POV," with Rory declaring Malice's verse on "POV" as potentially the best rap verse of the year.
The hosts also critique the album's sequencing, suggesting that emotionally heavy tracks might be better placed later in the album.
Rory and Mall transition to discussing Justin Bieber's recently released "Swag" album. They acknowledge initial skepticism about the album's rushed title but are pleasantly surprised by its quality and intentional production.
They highlight collaborations with artists like Gunna and appreciate Bieber's fusion of pop and R&B elements, although they express some disappointment with certain skits interspersed throughout the album.
The hosts recap the Wireless Fest event held in London, commending Drake's ambitious three-night, three-set performance. They discuss the diverse lineup, which included artists like Lauryn Hill, Skepta, and Vanessa Carlton, and touch upon the dynamic between UK and US rap scenes.
Rory emphasizes the potential for UK rappers to bridge into the American market, expressing excitement over the possibility of future collaborations and cultural exchanges.
A controversial segment unfolds as Rory narrates an incident involving Colin McGregor sending unsolicited explicit photos to Azealia Banks. The hosts express their shock and disapproval of such behavior, discussing the implications of digital harassment and consent.
Damaris reinforces the seriousness of unsolicited explicit images, labeling them as a form of sexual assault.
The discussion highlights the intersection of celebrity behavior, digital ethics, and personal boundaries in the modern age.
The episode features voicemails from listeners sharing personal stories. One notable call from Damon discusses navigating naming conventions in an interracial marriage, emphasizing the balance between honoring both cultural backgrounds and ensuring the names resonate positively.
Mall and Damaris contribute to the conversation, debating the appropriateness and impact of certain names, particularly focusing on cultural sensitivity and identity.
In a lighthearted segment, the hosts engage in a playful debate over UNO rules, showcasing their camaraderie and humor. They discuss house rules, strategic plays, and the complexities of administering game etiquette.
The banter highlights the hosts' dynamic and their ability to entertain listeners with relatable, everyday topics.
As the episode winds down, the hosts wrap up their discussions, transitioning smoothly through various topics, including shout-outs to other artists and upcoming events. They also feature advertisements interspersed throughout the conversation, promoting products like Boost Mobile, LifeLock, and BetterHelp.
Rory on Phone Notifications: "And you know who's even scarier? The people that have that light notification. Oh my God, they belong in prison..." (02:16)
Mall on The Clips' Album: "It's good to see people react to the album the way they did into the music." (14:44)
Damaris on Sexual Assault: "Please stop sending dick pics unsolicited. It is sexual assault. Thank you." (54:42)
Rory on UNO Rules: "UNO doesn't even know their own rules. I think UNO thinks you can't even put, like, any green card on a red." (70:12)
This episode of New Rory & MAL offers a blend of humor, personal anecdotes, cultural discussions, and in-depth music reviews, all delivered with the hosts' signature candidness and energy. Whether debating UNO strategies or critiquing the latest in music, listeners are treated to an engaging and multifaceted conversation.