Episode 393 | Get To Steppin'

Summary

Podcast Summary: New Rory & MAL
Episode 393 | Get To Steppin'
Release Date: August 1, 2025

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Hosts:

• Rory
• Maal
• Damaris

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1. Fashion and Relationships

Timestamp: 02:12 - 05:06

The episode kicks off with a light-hearted discussion about fashion and relationships. Damaris expresses her envy towards Maal's impeccable style, highlighting how he effortlessly matches his shirts with sneakers.

• Damaris: "I will always be jealous. Like, Maal can get a shirt with any color in it and he somehow got sneakers to match it perfectly. I noticed that every episode, like, you..." [02:12]

Maal humorously downplays her jealousy, joking about dressing up and complimenting Rory's fashion choices. The conversation naturally shifts to discussions about personal style and its impact on relationships.

• Maal: "What is this, a fab song?" [02:28]
• Rory: "Yeah, I'm just saying, you could just call me Baby D. Just ask..." [02:29]

2. Cursing and Language on Podcast

Timestamp: 05:20 - 09:45

The hosts delve into the topic of language use on their podcast, particularly the use of profanity. They discuss the challenges of maintaining monetization on platforms like YouTube while incorporating curse words.

• Maal: "I saw that. YouTube now will allow us to curse within, like, the next few seconds and still be monetized." [05:23]
• Rory: "Yeah, that's toeing the line. That's absolutely." [05:35]

They reflect on their personal use of curse words, debating whether it's a sign of genuine emotion or simply seasoning for their conversations. The discussion emphasizes the balance between authenticity and audience perception.

• Rory: "You think that about you?" [06:00]
• Damaris: "Mall's not that bad. I feel like me and Rory are really bad." [07:03]

3. Legal Issues in Media – Shannon Sharpe

Timestamp: 09:00 - 20:00

A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to discussing Shannon Sharpe's recent legal troubles, including his settlement of $32 million with an OnlyFans model for sexual assault allegations. The hosts debate the implications of such high settlements and their impact on Sharpe's career.

• Rory: "We've supported Shannon before. But this type of, you know, being caught up in something like this is just absolutely... absurd." [22:18]
• Maal: "You're right, he probably has some international shipping issues at the moment." [05:01]

The conversation also touches on broader issues of accountability and reputation within the media industry, questioning how figures like Sharpe can recover or if their careers are irrevocably damaged.

• Maal: "I would believe the lawsuit. Yeah. Top." [16:36]
• Rory: "Once you find something, once you find something to attach to your likeness..." [13:03]

4. YouTube Music Stats Debate

Timestamp: 20:00 - 35:00

The hosts engage in a heated debate over YouTube Music's new "Monthly Audience" metric, which reportedly places artists like Meek Mill higher than mainstream stars such as Drake and Eminem. Rory challenges the validity of these metrics, expressing skepticism.

• Rory: "This list is bogus. I'm calling it it." [34:12]
• Maal: "I fully believe every number here." [34:24]

Damaris supports Maal's stance, highlighting discrepancies and the evolving nature of streaming metrics. The conversation underscores the complexities of measuring an artist's success in the digital age.

• Damaris: "This will probably change, like, every two weeks." [34:36]
• Rory: "It's no way. It's just no way." [34:37]

5. Representation and Colorism in TV Shows

Timestamp: 35:00 - 75:00

A profound discussion emerges on the representation of women, particularly dark-skinned black women, in television shows like "Martin" and "Fresh Prince." Damaris and Maal debate whether certain character portrayals perpetuate colorist stereotypes.

• Damaris: "She's a victim of sexual assault." [24:08]
• Rory: "You think Martin was a colorist?" [67:08]

The hosts explore how societal bias shapes character dynamics and humor in media, with Damaris advocating for awareness of embedded colorism, while Maal questions the intentionality behind such portrayals.

• Damaris: "Dark skinned women have been labeled as aggressive..." [62:06]
• Maal: "We don't think that Martin is..." [71:28]

6. Child Actors and Their Careers

Timestamp: 35:00 - 75:00

The conversation shifts to the trajectories of child actors like Dakota Fanning and Drew Barrymore, comparing their transitions into adulthood within the industry.

• Maal: "Dakota Fanning might rival Drew Barrymore..." [84:05]
• Damaris: "She went crazy." [84:18]

They discuss how early fame impacts personal and professional lives, highlighting the challenges and successes faced by former child stars as they navigate their careers.

• Rory: "Leonardo DiCaprio is the greatest child actor." [81:33]
• Damaris: "She went back to Trinidad." [54:00]

7. TV Show Reviews – 'Happy Gilmore', 'Succession', 'Sex in the City Reboot'

Timestamp: 75:00 - 120:00

The hosts review various TV shows and movies, offering their opinions and critiques:

• 'Happy Gilmore Too':

  • Maal: "It changed the world was one way and different after." [75:00]
  • Rory: "Happy Gilmore is a classic for sure." [75:49]

• 'Succession':

  • Maal: "Succession may land in my top 20 TV shows of all time." [93:52]
  • Damaris: "It might land in my top 10." [93:57]

• 'Sex in the City Reboot':

  • Damaris: "She's a terrible person." [120:17]
  • Rory: "When a video comes out of a woman hurling that on the court, I want you to have that same energy." [111:38]

The hosts engage in animated discussions about plotlines, character development, and the cultural impact of these shows, often interspersed with playful banter and personal anecdotes.

• Damaris: "She was at the playground with Amara..." [35:55]
• Maal: "I think it's hilarious." [12:12]

8. Final Thoughts and Concluding Remarks

Timestamp: 120:00 - End

As the episode nears its end, the hosts reflect on personal experiences, upcoming TV show releases, and the importance of supportive relationships. They emphasize the value of open communication and understanding in navigating personal challenges.

• Maal: "Give this man time. He needs time." [125:45]
• Damaris: "Just keep being supportive." [126:46]

The conversation wraps up with a mix of humor, empathy, and anticipation for future discussions, maintaining the show's signature blend of entertainment and insightful commentary.

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Notable Quotes

• Damaris on Fashion Jealousy:
  "I will always be jealous. Like, Maal can get a shirt with any color in it and he somehow got sneakers to match it perfectly." [02:12]

• Maal on Cursing Policies:
  "You could just call me Baby D. Just ask. Like we could kick it you know what I'm saying?" [02:29]

• Rory on YouTube Music Metrics:
  "This list is bogus. I'm calling it it." [34:12]

• Damaris on Colorism:
  "Dark skinned women have been labeled as aggressive, as manly and aggressive and nappy headed." [62:06]

• Rory on Shannon Sharpe's Settlement:
  "We've supported Shannon before. But this type of, you know, being caught up in something like this is just absolutely... absurd." [22:18]

• Maal on Child Actors:
  "Dakota Fanning might rival Drew Barrymore..." [84:05]

• Maal on 'Succession':
  "Succession may land in my top 20 TV shows of all time." [93:52]

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Conclusion:
Episode 393 of "New Rory & MAL" navigates a rich tapestry of topics, from personal relationships and fashion to pressing issues in media representation and the complexities of child actors' careers. The hosts blend humor with critical analysis, providing listeners with both entertainment and thoughtful insights. Notable discussions include the ramifications of high-profile legal settlements, the validity of streaming metrics, and the pervasive issue of colorism in television. As always, the dynamic interplay between Rory, Maal, and Damaris ensures a lively and engaging listening experience for both regulars and newcomers alike.

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[Maal]

The volume.

[Damaris]

I will always be jealous. Like, Maul can get a shirt with any color in it and he somehow got sneakers to match it perfectly. I noticed that every episode, like, you.

[Rory]

Could just say, like your mom. How you do that there? That's all you gotta say. Like you ain't got.

[Maal]

What is this, a fab song?

[Rory]

Yeah, I'm just saying, you could just call me Baby D. Just ask. Like we could kick it you know what I'm saying? Come. Come to the closet. Y' all got some for you. So good. You know what I mean?

[Maal]

You gonna style the marriage?

[Rory]

Nah, she could, you know. She weird. She wear baggy stuff, so she gets on my T shirt and stuff.

[Damaris]

I've been asking for some God speed. He ain't gave it to me yet. He got the whole line.

[Rory]

What you asked me for? Just anything.

[Damaris]

Yeah, and I asked you for that Palm Angels crew neck. I've been wanting that.

[Rory]

So that's still in the cleans. I gotta go. They might have. They might have shipped myself. That been in the cleaner so long, like, I don't even know if they still got that. I gotta go check.

[Maal]

I like Palm Angels. I just don't think I can pull it off.

[Rory]

Why? Because you look like the bear.

[Maal]

That, too. But I don't know. I feel like I look like a.

[Rory]

It's kind of like Jordan.

[Maal]

White Jordan jersey. Like a white Mexican from the ie. That's how I feel. Like I would look if I wore it.

[Rory]

If you want. Yeah.

[Maal]

That's just how I feel. I don't know why. It's a great brand. I just don't think I can pull it.

[Rory]

I just think you're thinking a little too deep into that. But it's okay.

[Maal]

It looks like great product, though.

[Rory]

No, it feels great. I gotta give the marriage that she's been asking for. That's what I'm gonna get it out the cleaners. Hopefully they still got it.

[Maal]

Thank you. Just, like, the sneakers that she's old.

[Rory]

I got her some sneakers. I got her.

[Damaris]

I'm not gonna talk about. I'm not gonna. We're not even gonna talk about the way.

[Maal]

All right, cool.

[Damaris]

Ma has disappointed me in this relationship. But, Rory, what else?

[Rory]

Damn, that's crazy. When they say disappointed.

[Maal]

She's not even that anymore.

[Rory]

Yeah, that's. Disappointed is like, you know, I just.

[Maal]

She expected better of me.

[Rory]

Yeah. Yeah. That's what disappointed.

[Maal]

She had you up on this plateau and then realized that she was.

[Rory]

You was right down here. Yeah.

[Damaris]

I'm saying. So, Rory, what else you feel like you can't wear? Cause you white?

[Maal]

I mean, anything from the new Kanye line.

[Rory]

I think that's actually on brand. Yeah.

[Damaris]

You fit.

[Maal]

Right. New haircut.

[Rory]

You should actually pull that off the new campaign for those.

[Maal]

It's just a little too on the nose. I feel like if I wore it.

[Rory]

Yeah, it's too easy.

[Maal]

Yeah. Like, if you wore it, it's, like, edgy and, like. What does he really mean?

[Rory]

Yeah, like, what's for me?

[Maal]

It's like. No, that's what he. That's who we know.

[Rory]

That's in his DNA.

[Maal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Yeah. Yo, Kanye. Sweet. My 25 back.

[Damaris]

Oh, you still ain't get your.

[Rory]

Yeah, man, I ordered them Nazi boots, man.

[Maal]

You deserve. You deserve to get scammed.

[Rory]

The Nazi boots ain't come yet, man. That was like. It was still cold outside when I ordered that for 25.

[Damaris]

To your old apartment.

[Rory]

Let me stop saying Nazi boots. They were some. They were some dope boots. Like, they look, like durable. I just want to. I like them because they look like they was great for just snow. Nasty winter days. You could just throw those on, like.

[Maal]

Maybe in the mountains of Germany or.

[Rory]

The mountains of New Jersey, wherever. Like.

[Maal]

Or like invading Paris.

[Rory]

No, they look. They look like they were good every day. Just, you know, knock around boots. And it was for 25. I was like, why not? But he ain't sending me, so Kanye send me my money.

[Maal]

You know, he probably has some international shipping issues at the moment.

[Rory]

Tariffs. Everybody blames the tariffs, you know, Trump and the tariffs. That's all.

[Maal]

I wonder what Kanye's tariff is, having the same tariffs than a Nazi gear that's being made overseas. And the irony that is made in China is even funnier. But I guess that's a deeper, deeper conversation for another day.

[Rory]

Oh, man. We are back. Sponsored by Boost Mobile.

[Maal]

Yes, we'll be. I saw that. YouTube now will allow us to curse within, like, the next few seconds and still be monetized. I don't know if we can say Nazi within the first three seconds, though.

[Rory]

Yeah, that's. That's toeing the line. That's absolutely.

[Maal]

Maybe just. I mean, keep it. But, you know, it'll be a test. It's an experiment.

[Rory]

It was past seven.

[Maal]

The Nazis did do experiments.

[Rory]

It was past seven seconds, Pete, we should be good. It's past seven seconds. That's all.

[Maal]

Just get rid of the rule at that point. Like, it was a minute before, right? Something like that.

[Damaris]

Yeah, it was like four minutes. Honestly.

[Rory]

Yeah, I mean, but honestly, we shouldn't be cursing in the first seven seconds of anything.

[Damaris]

Like, man, that.

[Rory]

See Baby D navigate monetized and I gotta dock your pay. That's coming out your pay. Don't worry about that.

[Damaris]

That's crazy.

[Maal]

We have a swear jar.

[Rory]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. We were supposed to. We been supposed to have a swear job.

[Damaris]

Yeah, we were.

[Rory]

We've been supposed to do that.

[Maal]

It might even be better.

[Rory]

$4,000 in there by now.

[Maal]

I do curse More than I should at 35.

[Rory]

Yeah, I was talking to my mom about that. She was laughing like, I was up with her, my aunt, last weekend, and they was telling me stories about when I was young. They used to get a kick out of me because I had, like, a terrible mouth. I used to curse all the time. And one of my cousins watches the show, and she was like, yeah, you know, like, he be talking crazy cursing, but I love it. So my mom was like, he still got that potty mouth. But I'm like, I really don't curse a lot. Like, not a lot. I curse, but I try.

[Maal]

Not by whose standards, though? Like, the average everyday working person. Not at a dock or a construction site.

[Rory]

I mean, yeah, like a New Yorker. The average. I curse less than the average New Yorker.

[Maal]

No, I think you're right on par.

[Rory]

You think so? No, when we have conversations, like, regular con. I don't curse.

[Damaris]

Mall's not that bad. I feel like me and Rory are really bad.

[Maal]

I'm definitely bad, which is crazy, because, I mean, I. I am stupid and I can't read, but I don't need to curse. Like, I can find other ways to say things.

[Rory]

Yeah, yeah, exactly. It adds a little seasoning to what you. Emotions, that's all.

[Maal]

You know, just because, again, we don't, like, work construction or something, and, like, I can't get my anger out on cement.

[Rory]

We're not building right now.

[Maal]

Well, yeah, metaphorically.

[Rory]

Yeah. Yeah. Okay.

[Maal]

It's leaning for sure right now. Let's check the specs. But, yeah, I don't know. Curse words just, they. They get rage at it.

[Rory]

They just.

[Maal]

It just feels good.

[Damaris]

Yeah, I was. I was cracking up, like, because of, you know, my little rant last episode. There were so many people in the comments, like, since when did she have this energy? And I was just like, oh, y' all don't. Y' all don't know. I like, I curse. Y' all think curse that? Well, just, like, with no practice. Like, I. Like, I get my. I cuss people. Cussing out is, like, my forte. I. I specialize in.

[Rory]

Oh, they don't know that about you. Come on. Y' all don't know. Baby D. If y' all don't know that about her cussing out, she can't wait. She lean into cussing the out now, yo.

[Damaris]

But I was rewatching that, and I'm like, yo, this is why you can't be fighting.

[Rory]

How much anxiety did you have after that?

[Damaris]

I had terrible yo. Fight. I was hungry. Fresh off your Phone.

[Rory]

Checking your phone every four minutes.

[Damaris]

No, I wasn't that bad.

[Rory]

But just when I was canceled. Wait till. You. Wait till you got to check to see if you canceled it. Y' all don't know that. That an. Like, when you towing the line, like, they about to pack me up, like, get me out of the culture. Oh, baby. And then your family calling you for dumb. You like, yo, it's a whole another world I'm about to be exiled from right now. Get off my line, man.

[Maal]

But imagine if Damaris was canceled for that ramp.

[Rory]

Yeah, that would be crazy.

[Damaris]

Cancel is crazy.

[Maal]

I would. I would believe the lawsuit. Yeah. Top. Top has a lot of control. If Damaris got canceled for that rent.

[Damaris]

Yeah. But now I just look back at it, and I was like, this. Why you can't podcast? Like, when you going through. Because I was. I hadn't eaten all day. I was hungry. I was fresh off a flight, tired. I had no make on, and I was arguing with a. It was too much going on at once. Like, caught smoke that wasn't even really for them.

[Rory]

Oh.

[Maal]

I mean, 99 of the time, when I yell on this podcast, it's rage that I've been holding in. That has nothing to do with what we're talking about.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Maal]

But that's why I also can't curse, because there'll be times I'll be yelling in arguments or debates or whatever with you guys. And we all know everyone's not mad. That's just how we talk to each other. When you add in curse words, I totally see why the perception of the Internet is like, that's a really angry person. Yeah, it's like, not. I was fine. We laughed after I just said the F word at the top of my lungs 30 times. So the average regular person would be like, that's an angry person.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Maal]

But.

[Damaris]

Oh, yeah, it happens.

[Maal]

We. We all have.

[Damaris]

We've all had our moments. That was. That was mine, man. But, yeah, I was going. I was going through it, dog.

[Rory]

He was going through something.

[Maal]

Well, how are you feeling now?

[Damaris]

I'm great.

[Maal]

Okay.

[Damaris]

Everything's good.

[Rory]

Yeah. You're feeling good?

[Damaris]

Good communication. Communication and stuff like that. But, yeah, I was tight.

[Maal]

Did. I mean, did that get any of that anger out?

[Damaris]

A little bit. A little bit. But then having to deal with the aftermath, everybody, like, you're so emotional. I'm just like, dog, like, this ain't even about y'.

[Rory]

All.

[Damaris]

So it was just like, you know, whatever. But also, like, I also feel like, because I'm a woman in Hip hop. It's like, stay out of men's business. And it's like, you niggas ain't about to kill each other.

[Rory]

Like, stay out of business.

[Damaris]

Yeah, niggas was saying it'll stay out of men's business. That's how women get men killed.

[Rory]

Whose business was that? That's how getting men killed was wilding.

[Damaris]

I'm like, bro, mad safe.

[Rory]

Like, see, I don't. Why I don't see that. I don't see those, like, those comments. Like, that don't. That don't land on my page. Like, somebody saying that, like, stay out of men's business. This how men get killed. Like, what. What is that? What do we. What are we even talking about?

[Maal]

If I got killed from that, I'd have to have a long, stern talk with the Lord Jesus Christ. This is how I went out.

[Rory]

Yeah, this.

[Maal]

Yeah, this right here. Couldn't get hit by a truck or something. Cool.

[Rory]

Yeah, this.

[Maal]

This nonsense.

[Rory]

I was so mad that. That. That we let that go out, though. I was so mad. Like, so fucking mad. See, I'm cursing, but I had to add that. You know what I mean? That was a little bit of sasson right there. I was so mad, though.

[Maal]

Cause it's like I forgot about it.

[Damaris]

Until I seen the clip. I had to.

[Rory]

What? Just for what? Why is everybody just content, baby? Just. Yeah, but we ain't gotta do that.

[Damaris]

I know.

[Rory]

I knew what he was doing when he said what he said. It was like, okay, I get it.

[Damaris]

Motherfucking funny.

[Rory]

I'm just saying. I get it. You know what I mean? Hey, yo, hey. Cause it all comes down to this. This is how you simplify life. We all got bills to pay. We all got bills to pay. Anybody just trying to pay bills, however you dress it up, however you slice it, the end of the day, you just want to be able to pay bills, provide for your family, and be comfortable. I get it. I'm not mad at nobody ever trying to pay bills and do what they got to do to make that happen and respect that. So it's your respect. But it's the same day. Once I see something, I'm just like, all right. I don't take that personal. Just like, it's okay. I get it. I may. You know, we don't align in those things, and we don't, you know, we're not built and designed the same. But I'm cool. I'm a little older. I'm a little, you know, different than most. I understand that, but it's like, we still doing.

[Maal]

I think it's hilarious.

[Damaris]

Maul is so funny.

[Rory]

Like, it's just like we still doing.

[Maal]

I just think it's funny.

[Rory]

No, it is very funny, isn't it?

[Maal]

Like, I literally laughed out loud in my kitchen watching it by myself, and I laughed out loud.

[Rory]

Now, Damaris sentiments were real and, you know, that's how she feels. And I respect that. And a lot of those sentiments, I feel the same. We align. You know what I mean? But just the. The overarching just thing just of, you know, somebody said this, and then I gotta respond, and now it's beef. And this, this.

[Damaris]

Now they said, you gotta stand up for me. Next time Drake come at me.

[Rory]

He didn't. When he. Oh, because he laughed. He posted.

[Damaris]

They said, you gotta stand up for.

[Rory]

Me now because plot twist posted. Yeah, he didn't even post that. It was plot twist anyway.

[Maal]

Also what's funny is the next time Drake goes out to me, like some back and forth. Yeah. Like, yo, as soon as the album's done, like, yeah, he's with Damaris.

[Rory]

Yeah, it's back lit.

[Maal]

Like, he's just telling when the album.

[Damaris]

Come out and the line drop broke podcast, which, you know, you know it's coming. Like when. When diss me.

[Maal]

Just.

[Rory]

You think Drake has a line going at you like, I'm a narcissist.

[Damaris]

I'm a narcissist.

[Rory]

Okay. All right. That's you.

[Maal]

She gonna find a.

[Rory]

Once you find something. Once you find something to attach to your likeness. Yo, listen, eat. You know me. Come in here, do your thing, baby. That's why the black magic is here. Get your off. You know what I'm saying? I ain't mad.

[Maal]

Listen, man, I'm just glad that you and I were safe, that's all.

[Rory]

No, we're very safe.

[Maal]

I'm glad.

[Rory]

Yeah. No, no, man, listen, man. Shout out to everybody, you know, doing what they got to do to pay bills.

[Maal]

Yeah, man.

[Rory]

Hopefully when you lay down at night, that pillow don't feel like it's rocks in it. That's all.

[Maal]

Speaking of paying the bills, what's Gilbert doing, man?

[Rory]

Oh, snitching.

[Maal]

You think he snitched?

[Rory]

Did you not see read his caption on his post?

[Maal]

Oh, no, I just saw him dancing, walking out of court five minutes after he was arrested, so.

[Rory]

Oh, you didn't read the caption?

[Maal]

Oh, no, I did. Please read the caption for me.

[Rory]

I mean, in the caption, did he.

[Maal]

Say, hey, I snitched?

[Rory]

Look. No, read it. Scroll up. I'm Back on the streets. This ain't got shit to do with me. I just rented the house, wasn't a part of it. If he told us that. What you think he told them?

[Maal]

You bring up a lot of solid points that I can't refute.

[Rory]

Yeah, we know. He just was renting the house and all this, and he ain't had nothing to do with it. If he told us that. What you think he told them? People in there, he running down the steps, burping. You could smell the Pepsi. You know, once they get the Pepsi, it's just the track is laid. You know that Gil was snitching, as he should. He's a taxpaying citizen. He not no thug. Yeah, cooperate, but don't act like you ain't co op. See, I'm not mad when people cooperate. Not mad at that. Just don't act like you not cooperating. No, hold on. That's all.

[Maal]

Yes, tax paying citizen, but in the event, if you are in an illegal gambling spot, you are participating in illegal activity, and I feel like you should be on the side of the. Of the activity that you're participating in willingly. I'm not big tough. I'm a citizen. But if I'm in a legal gambling spot and I get arrested, that snitching, if I tell anyone I was doing illegal shit with y'.

[Rory]

All. Well, Gilbert Arena, I don't care if you're a civilian. You're right. Gilbert Arenas, a five other defendants, including a suspected high level member of an Israeli transnational organized crime group. You know, the feds. The feds been waiting, waiting, trying to get that guy for years. They put all that on him.

[Maal]

How did Gilbert meet them?

[Rory]

Were arrested today on a federal indictment alleging they operated an illegal gambling business in which high stake post poker games were played at an Encino mansion Arenas owned. So, you know, okay, but saying you.

[Maal]

Just rented the spot, like, were you upstairs asleep? And like you just had the fellas over and then they were like, shh, we're gonna play some cards. Don't you don't tell Gilbert.

[Rory]

Maybe, maybe that, or maybe he literally just owns the house and, you know, was renting it out. And because the house is in his name, you know, obviously he would have to be brought in for a further investigation in which he will cooperate fully and let them know exactly what his role in the matter when it comes to the house being his and things that were going on at the house. And who knows, maybe he had no idea that these poker games were happening.

[Maal]

Well, that could in fact, be true. But there was a strange coincidence that maybe the pictures of Arena's poker club logo tables, like, you have to get that logo made, then sent to a poker company.

[Rory]

You gotta get samples sent back.

[Maal]

You gotta play a few hands to.

[Rory]

See if this is what you slide across the table. Yeah, yeah.

[Maal]

So, I mean, in the event, maybe Gilbert rented this house to them and wasn't there, and he just happened to have poker tables, his poker tables, that were not, you know, they were playing with M and M's.

[Rory]

Well, he's a poker fan.

[Maal]

And they thought, well, hey, this is already here. We might as well take our illegal Israeli gambling ring. Yeah, to Gilbert's house.

[Rory]

Yeah, we're already here. You know, Israel is in America, as we know, America is Israel. So Gilbert had property, and they were looking to get a fella's night. He just, you know, happened to have poker tables lying around. Now, here, come to my house. Play here.

[Maal]

If Gilbert was part of it, cool. I think that's snitching. But if that's his house and he rented out to these people, I'm snitching on every Israeli in there. Yeah, but you're not using the house that I'm renting to run prostitution rings and. No, I'm snitching.

[Rory]

Yeah, but now can he sleep comfortably in his current home knowing that he snitched on Israeli transnational crime syndicate regime? Fucking what the Fed said. Like, can he sleep comfortably knowing that he did that?

[Maal]

It's the same people that took out Epstein.

[Rory]

I'm just saying, can he sleep comfortably is all. I don't know, Gil. Listen, man, it's looking shaky right now. I know it's all jokes and laughs coming out the courtroom, but I don't know if it just ends there. I don't know what you did in that room. That's your business. But we're here to talk about your business. That's what we do. And, you know, we'll have to see what happens. But he is. He is. He is free. Out on bail. I'm guessing he'll have another court date soon. I don't think that that's just the end of it. They just let him out and that's it. He'll probably have another court date, and we'll have to see what happens.

[Maal]

Listen, man, we're just going to trust the Feds. Those weren't prostitutes. They were waitresses. Yeah, they were just bringing drinks to people that were playing cards.

[Rory]

That's all.

[Maal]

And they just happened to have money there doesn't mean they were betting the money.

[Rory]

They just happened to be attracted to the guy and, you know, had a chemistry and just had sex.

[Maal]

I mean, how much do you get for gambling? I'm sure you probably get more now that gambling is legal and they're trying to get all the illegal shit the fuck out of here.

[Rory]

But should gambling be legal? Like if, you know, you come to the house, Rory and I have poker tables and we want to get a couple hands and we start throwing around a couple thousand dollars.

[Maal]

Well now gambling, now that gambling is legal, that should not be illegal whatsoever. It's illegal still because the country can't tax it and can't run it on their own.

[Rory]

I think, I think these type of poker games, again, high profile people, I'm assuming. I think the amount of money that was being exchanged and the amount of money that was being gambled there and then obviously you know, where the problem comes in. You know, again, Gilbert, we don't know your business, but the house always takes a percentage. It's a buy in fee. You know, we know how these things go. It's a buy in fee. You know, the girls that's working the game, they get paid if sex happens. Now you're talking about a whole nother thing. So that's when it becomes a federal thing. It's like if me and you are just playing while the game is on, getting some cards and the feds are not coming, kicking our door down roof. But now if we have, you know, this is a thing like every Friday we're here and you know, high profile people are coming and we're talking about hundreds of thousands of doll are being gambled weekly. Then the feds might, you know, start digging and seeing what's going on.

[Maal]

I mean, they could just do it the way we all launder money through cash app and say reimbursement for dinner.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Maal]

Don't even have money at the gambling spot. Just everyone settle at the end of the night with cash app and say reimbursement for dinner.

[Rory]

Sides. 30,000 sides.

[Maal]

The sides did in fact cure cancer.

[Rory]

You spent 120 grand on socks? Sides, man.

[Maal]

Well, yeah, I mean, prayers to everyone involved. I mean it is just gambling.

[Rory]

I mean it is just gambling. But again, it's, it's, it's illegal. So, you know, on, on the land that we live on. That is illegal. It is what it is. However we may feel about it, the loopholes, the, the blurred lines, you know, I can gamble on the game tonight. I can gamble on any pretty Much. Any. Anything else. But if I run a gambling poker game in. In my house, it's deemed illegal.

[Maal]

So that's why I've stayed clear of a lot of, like, afties. Because a lot of the afters are, like, half gambling spot. Half. We're just gonna party till the sun is up. And when that gets raided, everybody's going to jail. I don't care if you have a blackjack hand or not. All them aft spots. No. The moment I see a Russian that doesn't look like he should be there.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Maal]

I know something's going on on the other side of that wall. Yeah. And we're all going down.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Maal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Especially when you go into bodega and it take Poppy 10 minutes to come from the back.

[Maal]

Got a hot hand.

[Rory]

Yeah. You look back there, Crazy domino ring going on.

[Maal]

Were you involved in the James Brown RICO funeral case? I feel like. I feel like he was definitely there. You were definitely there.

[Rory]

Why do you feel like I was involved in the James Brown?

[Maal]

Everybody north of 110th street was.

[Rory]

No, I had nothing to do with that. No.

[Maal]

That was the wildest headline ever. After James Brown died, that was, like, the biggest gambling takedown ever at the Repass. But either way, it definitely wasn't the high stakes that Shannon Sharp puts up in onlyfan dms.

[Rory]

Yeah. It's been a rough, rough couple of days for retired athletes.

[Maal]

I'll take Gilbert's situation.

[Rory]

Oh, yeah. Oh. Any day over what Shannon Sharp was dealing with, it has come out that Shannon Sharpe has been fired from espn. This is coming off the heels of him.

[Maal]

Complex list. Coming off the heels of that.

[Rory]

Well. Well, yeah. What number was he?

[Maal]

Sixteen, Something like that.

[Rory]

Not good enough.

[Maal]

Not gonna get number 32.

[Rory]

Yeah. Shannon Sharp was let go. Well, let's call. He was fired. Shannon Shaw was fired on his day off at east from espn. This is coming off of him settling his sexual assault. Was that his charges?

[Maal]

Allegedly settled for $32 million to the OnlyFans woman for. I don't know if we can say the word on YouTube, forcible sexual assault.

[Rory]

Now, Shannon, we at New Rory and Mall support you. We're fans of your work.

[Maal]

We do.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Rory]

We support Shannon. We've supported Shannon before.

[Maal]

Oh, in the past, for sure.

[Rory]

Yeah. I'm just saying, we. We've supported Shannon Sharp. But this. This type of, you know, being caught up in something like this is just absolutely. You know, it's just stupid. Like, there's no way Shannon Sharpe should ever even know who this young woman is. Have any dealings with her on any level. Like I, you know, I get it. Everybody has their things they like to do in their private life. But at a certain point, there's certain things you should never be involved with, never be attached to. And this is just a very expensive lesson.

[Maal]

What has taken more men out, do you think? Heart disease or lust?

[Rory]

Definitely lust.

[Maal]

Because dog.

[Rory]

All right, lust breeds hard.

[Maal]

We've all. We've all the wrong person before. But what did you do that you were comfortable settling with that girl?

[Rory]

I've never the wrong person when I was worth $30 million.

[Maal]

I would never settle with somebody if I didn't do anything.

[Rory]

That's a fact. But I also would never the wrong person when I'm worth More than $30 million.

[Maal]

I just feel like if you have that much money, you have access to women that actually won't do this. You have access find a consistent whore that will cost you less than 32 million a year.

[Damaris]

Okay, let's just be careful with the whore words.

[Maal]

Is that not the definition of a whore?

[Damaris]

She's a victim of. According to his settlement, she's a victim of sexual assault.

[Maal]

No, no, no. I'm saying that. I'm saying Shannon Sharp could go find a whore.

[Damaris]

Oh, okay.

[Maal]

That he could consistently for cheaper than that. That would not do this. If you want to get your lush off. I'm not here to judge. But I will judge the 19 year old only fans girl at your age, right?

[Damaris]

Monique told him.

[Rory]

Monique did try to tell him. She told him what was gonna happen. She told him she saw the way he was moving. She said, you know, you got to settle down. You know, you gotta find your lady, your partner, whatever.

[Damaris]

Girls, ladies.

[Maal]

And again, I don't think anyone settles if they didn't do anything wrong with that, that price. But it still Tony Busby who now just got times 0.05, $1.6 million to fund the rest of his law firm to continue to do. Yeah, we just put more money in Tony Busby's pocket. I don't know what Shannon Sharpe's next steps are. I still think there's plenty of people that will tune into him. I don't think his career is over. But I think no matter how much money you have, that amount of money is going to hurt anybody. I don't know when he has to pay it. I don't know if there's a loophole. I would probably try to go to Bali, liquidate some of that go to Saint Barts.

[Rory]

But what does that mean for Shannon Sharp? Like with his Career now. Is it over? Over. Will he still be able to. Obviously still be able to upload his podcast on YouTube and things like that. But like on a, a national level.

[Maal]

There is definitely another move that he could do. Who's the guy that played in get him to the Greek long hair. Forgetting Sarah Marshall?

[Damaris]

Russell.

[Maal]

Russell Brand, super cool liberal hippie. Got caught a 16 year old in London and now he's full blown Republican. There is a move that Shannon Sharp could do here. Rumble would love to have you, Shannon.

[Rory]

Yeah, but you're missing, you're missing.

[Maal]

Tucker Carlson will interview you tomorrow.

[Rory]

You're missing the bigger thing though. Russell is white fair. See when you Black country big.

[Maal]

Oh, big pause.

[Rory]

He's a big tight end. Yeah, he's a big guy. He's a unit.

[Maal]

Definitely a unit.

[Damaris]

Even naming somebody a tight end is gay.

[Maal]

But go ahead. I mean, never actually looked at it that way.

[Rory]

Yeah, yeah, there's a difference. There's a difference that comes with that. It's not as easy to crawl out of that hole when you're black. Unfortunately. It is what it is. We know it, we've seen it time and time again. When you're white and you get caught up in things like this, you come back pretty easily.

[Maal]

But like any company, Republican LLC is also looking to get into the urban space, definitely. So you have to think that as well.

[Rory]

Definitely. They're looking for ad ads. Ad space.

[Maal]

Yes, yes. So I think Shannon Sharpe, that you do have, you do have a move here.

[Rory]

It's sad to see the right Shannon had, you know, he had everything going for him, was one of the biggest, biggest names in media again. I don't know what he has to do with hip hop, but he made it on a hip hop media ranking list. I mean Shannon Sharp was, you know, he was a house. He was becoming a household name. And to have something like this happen is, you know, it's just, it speaks to what you do when those cameras turn off. You gotta, you gotta be doing the right thing when the cameras are off as well. You can't be this upstanding guy and you know, have all these morals and well spoken and so eloquent on camera when the lights is on. And then once the lights turn off, you start talking to 19 year olds like you just can't be that guy. I'm sorry. Like you just get your life together.

[Maal]

But do we think, is it shocking that the guy that posted himself having sex on IG Live, that was a mistake. Even though you'd be surprised that that.

[Rory]

Guy seven steps you have to go through on IG to go live. But that was a mistake.

[Maal]

And I'm not gonna say who had volume, looked me dead in my face and said, no, no, that was real. I said found the first liar in the company.

[Rory]

Yeah, yeah.

[Maal]

We don't think that guy would also DM a 19 year old onlyfans girl. Because I think that's the exact guy that would do that. The old man that's opening IG live to make sex noises is definitely going to find an only fans girl.

[Rory]

I just don't know how horny you gotta be, Ma.

[Damaris]

You are always surprised by horny people. There are really, really horny people out there.

[Rory]

Yeah, but how horny are yo, if you. If you are who Shannon Sharpe is, you have a plethora of. Of vagina that is readily available for you. You ain't got a backslide to the 19 year old only fan model.

[Damaris]

That's your. If that's your type, that's your type. That's his type, bro.

[Rory]

Yeah, but your type gonna have you in the whole 35.

[Maal]

How you develop that type? Like.

[Rory]

Yeah, like how your type got you in the whole 30 million.

[Maal]

Since he was 19, he always just. 19 was his thing.

[Damaris]

Yeah, he just never stopped liking 19 year olds.

[Rory]

Yeah, that's. Yeah. I mean, listen, man, eventually, you know, your lifestyle catches up to you. And that's one thing is true, and that will continue to be true is your lifestyle will eventually catch up to you. The way you live, the things that you, you know, consume at some point or another, they affect you in ways that might cost you $30, might cost you 30 million, but it will cost you.

[Damaris]

Did y' all see Meek's tweet? Meek, I'm sorry. That was the funniest tweet I've seen it so far.

[Maal]

Greatest Twitter of all time. No, what did M say? I'm sure it was insightful.

[Damaris]

Meek said y' all too old to be getting fired. In response to shit Sharp talk.

[Maal]

It's pretty funny.

[Damaris]

That shit had me crying. Cause that's how I found out.

[Rory]

That might be actually one of the. One of the more precise tweets Meek has ever given us is that's a fact.

[Damaris]

Y' all too old to be getting fired. For real? Cause he right.

[Rory]

No, he's absolutely right. And especially fired over something like that. Like if Shannon Sharp said something that was a little, you know, toeing the line and a little edgy and ESPN didn't really align with it. They didn't agree with it and they let him go. Then it's like, Shannon, it is what it is. You stood on business. We respect that. We salute that. We still welcome you in the culture. But when you get fired for shit like this, it's hard for us to still support and embrace Shannon. And you know, everybody makes mistakes, but it's like, come on, dog, you too old to be making this type of. This is like, this is such an inappropriate mistake. Yeah. Like, this is a super inappropriate mistake.

[Maal]

And to Meek's point, like, he's in like laid off territory. With his age age. You can't be getting fired like retirement.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Maal]

You got to get either laid off. Like, here's your watch. Thank you for your service over the years. Yeah, that's rough. Well, congrats to Meek. They released the YouTube. What was the exact thing? YouTube Music Monthly listeners Metric. Meek was much higher than I anticipated that he'd be. Meek was really up there. Meek was at 237 million, which puts him at 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 place.

[Rory]

Wait. YouTube Music has introduced its own version of the monthly listeners metric called Monthly Audience.

[Maal]

So I'm still a little confused by this because it hasn't really been like a real reputable outlet that has been.

[Rory]

Posting this is not real.

[Maal]

But everyone has been talking about it non stop. And then we were looking. You can go find these Numbers on. On YouTube. So it is accurate. But I haven't seen YouTube co sign it. So I'm very confused.

[Rory]

Has more monthly listeners than Drake.

[Maal]

Yeah, kids love YouTube.

[Rory]

All right, though I don't care. Why y' all saying on YouTube like that's gonna be like. Nah, you right.

[Damaris]

I just wanted to clarify.

[Rory]

Yo, not on YouTube. Like, nah. Yeah, you right. I can see that.

[Damaris]

Don't believe it. But I just wanted to clarify for the listeners that we were definitely talking about YouTube. So.

[Rory]

Yeah, I said YouTube Music Monthly listeners.

[Maal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

No.

[Maal]

And Dochi was tied with Eminem at 332 million.

[Rory]

Meek Mill has more monthly listeners than Travis Scott, J. Cole, Nikki.

[Maal]

Yep.

[Rory]

Drake Future Tyler, the creator. Why is Coolio, Playboy, Cardi.

[Maal]

Because of Gangsters paradise. All. All streams. All 251 million are gangsters.

[Rory]

Paris, cut the man, man.

[Maal]

Listen, man, look, numbers don't lie. What? What are you mad at me for? Let's cut this. Numbers have never lied.

[Rory]

Salute to anybody doing anything. But let's cut this, man. Like we could. It's. It's okay. It's okay for us to see and call it. It's. There's no. In no world. This Meek has more monthly listeners on any platform than JCole, Drake, Future Tyler, the creator, Playboy, Cardi. I'm just not rolling with that.

[Maal]

And left off the list, out of left field was Taylor Swift and Bad Bunny.

[Damaris]

Just like, oh.

[Maal]

Oh, thank God. Nah. Pito's hip hop don't do that. PB started out as a rapper.

[Rory]

No, he started out as a rapper, and then once he saw that or he saw that other money. He ain't put on a pair of jeans since P. In the suit.

[Maal]

Every type of jeans.

[Rory]

He been in a. He been in a suit every day of his life the last 17 years. No, him and Florada. I don't blame him. When you see that other bag you like. I'm not. You can with rap if you want. I'm over here, man. They giving out stupid bags.

[Maal]

I always like Flora Rider. I never understood why he got a bad rap. He just makes, like, poppy rap. He be rapping, though.

[Rory]

He makes good Cruise Carnival Cruise music. Yeah, yeah. He's a Carnival Cruise legend.

[Maal]

He makes Carnival Cruise music that cool and Dre produced. So I also like it.

[Rory]

Nah, listen, it's definitely a space where Flo Rider. That should come on. It's like, this is absolute. I want to hear Flow Rider here.

[Maal]

What's kind of up is. And I think it's because we didn't pay attention to numbers as much back then, but, like, if you were to do the. The top rapper lists and all this that we do now, in the mid-2000s, we left Flow Rider off every list he should have been on. You can't be that dominant with numbers and not even be in the conversation.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Maal]

Because anytime I want to say Playboy Carti's trash, rightfully so. Everyone goes. Well, I mean, he sells out stadiums and streams more than anybody else. Yeah. What can I say?

[Rory]

This list is bogus. I'm calling it it.

[Maal]

You don't think Doji and Eminem are tied for number one?

[Rory]

No. Okay. I do not.

[Maal]

I absolutely see. You're a hater.

[Rory]

I stand on it. I. I'll be that. I. I hate these numbers.

[Maal]

I. I fully believe every number here.

[Rory]

Okay. That's what's up.

[Maal]

I don't even think, like, they're off by one or two.

[Rory]

I think this is extremely.

[Maal]

I think it's extremely. I think it's extremely. No, I think everyone's on a whole number, too.

[Damaris]

But this. This should be changed.

[Rory]

A whole number.

[Damaris]

This will probably change, like, every two weeks.

[Maal]

No, it would change every.

[Rory]

Every.

[Maal]

Yeah, monthly. It would change every day. But if you're going by monthly. I mean, yeah, man.

[Rory]

It's just. No way. It's no way. It's just no way. You're like, I'm looking at it. The more I look at that, I'm just like, bro, you don't think that.

[Maal]

Little Tekka has more streams than Drake?

[Rory]

Come on, man. Like, we could just stop the. That's all I'm saying.

[Maal]

See, this is where people need to call you out. Like. Like, everyone knows. Everyone knows little Tech has more streams than Drake. You're just. Just because that's your man's.

[Rory]

You think, no, that's a fact.

[Maal]

You just don't know tech like that.

[Rory]

You're right. You absolutely are 100. Right. I'm not even arguing with you. You're right. I don't know.

[Maal]

This has been on our list for, like, four episodes, and I've just been waiting for some, like, validation of this list.

[Rory]

And at this point, it's like, this is not real. It's okay. But we could talk about it, have fun with it. But that's not real. These numbers are absolutely.

[Maal]

Speaking of Eminem, I did want to go back to a topic. Topic that we discussed when Animal Part one with Jid and Eminem came out, and Jid did his EP before the album, which I heard. The album is great. I heard some people listen to it yesterday and said it was phenomenal. Everyone skipped past our point of, there's no way you would keep Eminem off your album. We just skated past that.

[Rory]

It's one of the craziest things ever. You have an Eminem feature, and it's not on your album.

[Maal]

We let that go. And then I was at the playground with Amara, and it just entered my head of how. Went, like, absolutely insane.

[Rory]

It's insane. It's insane.

[Maal]

Like, I've lost sleep over it now.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Maal]

Like, I had to revisit. Like, there's no way. Like, I honestly think Jid really got that Eminem feature and was like, all right, cool. Can't tell Eminem no. And called all his friends and said, I need to put an EP out in the next 24 hours, and I'm going to make it all features. He had to come up with something.

[Rory]

Something to tell me, like, crazy.

[Maal]

But, see, I think the strategy of this EP Strictly came as a way to tell Paul Rosenberg, hey, we're just. We're gonna use it as, like, the rollout rather than on the album.

[Rory]

Yeah, but I don't like that.

[Maal]

I actually respect it because that makes me think Jid's album is incredible. If you're so. So stuck to what your vision is for this project that the number one streaming rapper you don't want on your project, like, it just doesn't feel what you're trying to do.

[Rory]

But why can't we. Because we. We can, with other artists that were big at one point, get a feature from them. Why you can't just like, nah, you know, I'm. We're not going. We're not gonna use it. Like, why can't. Why can't you tell Eminem, yo, I respect you. Thank you for. You know. But it's not. It doesn't fit. That fit the album.

[Maal]

Nobody's doing that. That's why I respect.

[Rory]

Why.

[Maal]

That's why I respect Jid, even the route that he's going, because I think nine out of ten artists would just make it, like a bonus track at the end or, like, there's no way we're not putting an Eminem on my album. I'm super critical of Eminem. Like, his recent stuff isn't really for me. I know this would never happen. But if Eminem was like, yo, I'm not me. Can I. Can I remix a record on your album? Come on.

[Rory]

Right?

[Maal]

Of course you can.

[Rory]

Yeah. I just think that, you know, so it happens, though. It's. It's crazy to see it, but, you know, the verse doesn't really fit, and it doesn't go. It's not cohesive with my vision for my album. Then I think you should be able to be like, yo. And respectfully, you know, thank you. But it's not.

[Maal]

I'm. I'm speculating and sorry to put this on. Push, Malice and Pharrell. I think when they got that. That Nas feature, they liked it, but were like, like, damn. I don't know if this, like, really fits. Is. Is it really, like, purposeful on. It doesn't fit and it doesn't. And they forced it because no one's telling Nas, you're not on my album.

[Rory]

Yeah, but.

[Maal]

And M is in that same category. Like, there's no way you're telling that. So I. I mean, I respect it, and it makes me more excited for the Jid album.

[Rory]

Well, we got to see what he does with it. But now if the album is not that dope and it's like, yo, you could have used that. You could. You could have used.

[Maal]

I need to. Like, when it comes out, I want you to tell me where in the sequence you were thrown at.

[Rory]

All right, I got you. I'M gonna let you know exactly where that song should went and if Jid was tripping or not.

[Maal]

But if he's playing the album, it must be soon. I have not seen a date, but maybe I'm out the loop. But I think I'm pretty on it with Jid news. But I did see people tweeting that they had heard it, so I'm excited for that. But also, in. In real rapidy rap news, I completely checked out of the Joiner Skeptic thing. I was scrolling through my timeline. I didn't even realize that that was still going on. Yeah, they're like in the thick of it right now. The way they was tweeting each other back and forth. I'm like, y' all still doing this?

[Rory]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Maal]

I think half.

[Rory]

I was there at round three now. Yeah, they round three. I saw Joyner was. Was listening to the Skepta, his latest. His latest shot. He was kind of listening to it on his. On Twitter, I saw. And he was going through the bars, and he was like, yo, this is trash. This ain't it. Like, he was going through the bar, like, oh, y' all thought that landed. Like, that was one of those. Like, he thought that punchline was it. Yeah, it's just not. It's just not, you know, it's not what. You know, I think. I think the beginning of it, the talks of it, it kind of sounded and seemed like it was, you know, gonna be big and gonna be something worth talking about. But it's just. It's not that.

[Maal]

Yeah, I don't really care anymore. Which is crazy because I'm contradicting myself. I said I will click anytime. These guys go back and forth. And after round one and a half hours. Cool. I'm cool, guys.

[Rory]

I think we just. Again, it's the whole, you know, it didn't work.

[Maal]

It's okay.

[Rory]

Yeah, it didn't work. And it's the whole, I guess beef. Beef rap thing is kind of. I think we kind of beef wrapped out right now. I think we kind of like, just get back music. You know, if you got something to say to somebody, you know, love when they put it in music. But we don't have to set this battle stage. Like, I just think the setting the battle stage is kind of stale.

[Maal]

Wait, can you go back to that? Josh? Did Joyner Lucas do his own poll? Probably with his own followers. I mean, at least he got the title of the entire thing right. 96 of people. Nobody cares.

[Rory]

Nobody cares.

[Maal]

So at least it's like, that was accurate in the entire thing. But shout out to Joyner and skeptical.

[Rory]

Yeah, great artists.

[Maal]

I was excited, but I don't know. I'm sure other people continue to care, but in the beef realm of, of stopping the back and forth, Joey Badass went on. I wouldn't call it a rant because I don't like rants like that word when you're literally just explaining something. Yeah. Talked about his situation with Columbia Records. He said he'd already turned in his album. This is done, mix mastered, ready to go, and Columbia is delaying it. He didn't say why, but he said it has nothing to do with samples, nothing to do with features. He turned in everything and they are still delaying the album. Which I guess you would speculate to say is they don't like it or they think he needs more of a rollout or a record or a video.

[Rory]

They want him to start beefing with somebody.

[Maal]

Well, well, I mean, he explained in the video, he's like, if you've noticed since the top of the year, even before the Beef, he's been on Go Mod. He's been putting out freestyles, videos, shooting his own visuals. Like, he seemed like he was ready to put this project out as soon as possible. And we, we assumed if he was doing this back and forth that an album would come right away. That. I don't know, it's been a month and a half more than that. Maybe that all died down. So it looks like, all right, maybe Joey's coming next year then or something, because why wouldn't you put it out at that time? So I guess it's a Columbia Records thing.

[Rory]

That's unfortunate, man, because Joey got a lot of steam right now. He's been, he's been whooping ass as far as his verses, his, his, his, his visuals. He's been doing, like, great. And yeah, they, the label should have absolutely been ready for this album to come out this week like they said they would. So, you know, I mean, we, we know because we know the business and industry things happen and sometimes, you know, the ball gets dropped. But coming off of the, the momentum that Joey was able to, to, you know, create and, and, and, and get going for himself, the label was absolutely supposed to hit this deadline.

[Maal]

Well, what do you think it is?

[Rory]

I don't know, man.

[Maal]

Do you think they straight up don't like the album? But sometimes I don't even know if that's a label's business when you have a staff that's been cut in half. Like Yeah, I can't see it being they don't like the product.

[Rory]

I can't see it being they don't like the product. I, I, I think somebody's playing the metrics game and, and you know, he's caught in that little weird window right now where like probably in, in the last maybe month, maybe his metrics aren't like where they wanted them to be.

[Maal]

Yeah, because, I mean, if you're, I guess, going from the label's point of view, which always has a lot to do with perception because the beef died down and time has passed, if he does put a project out and it quote, unquote, flops, that would with his perception, I guess. And maybe they're viewing it from that way of like, hey, we need to get the buzz back up again and put out a record, a video, something to get this moving rather than just dropping your album at this point. But again, speculation, I have no idea. Yeah, but I also know Joey does have a fan base that will, you know, you can do post promo. His fan base is going to show up the first.

[Rory]

No matter when, no matter when Joey Badass has his following. He has his, his, his fan base that are going to support no matter when the album drops. Sometimes the label, this could just be the labels overthinking and overshooting something like, I don't think it's a, it's a, it's in questioning the product or if the album sounds good. I don't think it's that. I just think the label's overthinking. And again, they're trying to play the numbers game with an artist that probably has never played the numbers game. So, you know, that's what happens sometimes when you caught up at these, these major labels.

[Damaris]

Yeah, no worry enough.

[Maal]

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[Maal]

Is everyone going to give their their honest answers of how they feel about Chance the rapper announcing that he has a album coming out on August 15th. You guys all wanted to hate on Chance for no reason for the last, what, five, six years? Just abandoned him off. Off one project you guys didn't like? Is no one excited? Do we erase everything Chance has ever done off one project that people didn't like?

[Rory]

I'm gonna, I'm gonna answer your question. Am I excited? No.

[Maal]

Do we Erase acid rap? Do we erase surf? Do we erase color? Just erase.

[Rory]

Just.

[Maal]

All because of the clear CD about his wife.

[Rory]

No, you don't erase none of that. It's all part of it. It's all part of the story. All a part of his. His discography. You don't erase it. But I'm not excited. I'm gonna listen to it.

[Maal]

Well, you don't get excited for anything, so that was the wrong question.

[Rory]

No, I'll get excited for certain. Certain artists. Like, damn. Okay. I'm really looking forward to hearing his project or her project. But Chance is not one of those guys for me. I'm not excited that he's putting out now. I'm gonna listen to it. I'm gonna hear what. What he. What he put together because he is a. He's a cool artist. I like him, but I'm not excited.

[Maal]

No, I'm excited because he was at Carnival.

[Rory]

You're not excited.

[Maal]

I can I tell you why I'm excited? I'm. I'm literally. I can't even sit down. I'm so excited.

[Rory]

Okay.

[Maal]

Want to record this pod standing up?

[Rory]

It's only cuz you drinking espresso.

[Maal]

I couldn't even see how far I got. And then I started getting the J.

[Rory]

That's why you got the. Got that double shot in there.

[Maal]

Chance espresso right there. All right. We saw a chance at carnival catching.

[Rory]

A dub and then got divorced.

[Maal]

Then got divorced. Last album was about his wife. It's been six years.

[Rory]

Since his divorce.

[Maal]

No, since he's put out I Love my wife album.

[Rory]

Got you now.

[Maal]

He was doing that. I'm sure things were rocky before the divorce. And he caught a dub. We. We discussed it. That's the culture out there. Chance to do anything wrong whatsoever.

[Rory]

Part of the culture. When in Rome, do is the wrong.

[Maal]

Yeah, yeah. Like a culture vulture.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Maal]

Go down there and not catch a dub.

[Rory]

Exactly.

[Maal]

So I got to know what his post divorce behavior was, cuz, you know, he went back to Trinidad.

[Rory]

Oh, yeah.

[Maal]

That's got to be the first three records back to Trinidad.

[Rory]

I'm going. Going back. Back to Trinity. Trinity, please. Hey, hey, Chad. Sample that man. Don't worry.

[Maal]

And then track two, Sample big pimping.

[Rory]

And reshoot it. Reshoot the video at Carnival. Yeah.

[Maal]

It not. I think we're gonna get. I think Chance heard what a lot of people thought about his project and he's coming off the divorce. I'm not saying we're gonna get like misogynistic music from Chance, but I think we're gonna get. I think Chance gonna get.

[Rory]

He can't change his content to be in there talking crazy about women.

[Maal]

Doing that over a choir is hilarious.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

You know that choir coming.

[Rory]

He can't be in front of the choir now that he got divorced. Divorced?

[Damaris]

Why does God don't believe in divorce?

[Rory]

Exactly. That's. Start there. Till death do us part. So he went against all of that. You can't have a choir singing. It's blasphemy.

[Damaris]

Blasphemy.

[Rory]

Yeah. You can't do that.

[Maal]

Remember when Carmelo was trying to divorce Tony and he said, we don't do that. We're Catholic. Just murdered somebody. Like the scene before we put blood on his head?

[Rory]

No, we do that, but we don't do this. We don't do divorced.

[Maal]

You can't get divorced.

[Rory]

Yeah, we don't divorce. Not in this house. We're not doing that.

[Maal]

But yeah. I. I'm curious to see what Chance talks about on this project. Of course, I don't think it's before. I don't think Christianity. I still think it's going to be a lot of his sound and God stuff.

[Rory]

He might be the new Mary J. Going through heartbreak. Might give us his best. Okay. You know, Mary going through something, she give us her best. Her best work. And what Chance might be. He might. This might be his, you know, know he's not going to cry.

[Damaris]

Okay.

[Maal]

And was his wife a. Was it a volleyball player? Basketball player?

[Rory]

His wife? I'm not sure.

[Maal]

I just feel like there's going to be a lot of, like, volleyball metaphors and entendres throughout the whole thing.

[Rory]

We going back and forth over the net.

[Maal]

No, no, no, no. Yeah. Literally, like fire.

[Rory]

I mean, this is what. Yeah, this is what I do.

[Maal]

But yeah. August 15th. I hope he puts a record out before. Just so I'm give us some idea of what this project is going to be like. But I'd like to talk to Chance.

[Rory]

Yeah, I think. I think when it's supposed to come out. The 15th.

[Maal]

August 15th.

[Rory]

Yeah. No single, nothing.

[Maal]

Two weeks. And I know Chance. Remember we sat with him at bet? He said he was gonna. He was getting into directing, and it put out a few videos of his friends or whatever that he directed. So I'm sure we're gonna get a lot of visual stuff. Stuff on this probably within the next two weeks.

[Rory]

I like Chance. I like. I'm. I'm gonna hear what he did. I want to hear. It's kind of. It's bold to not Have a single out. Like, nothing. No. Type of anything. I get it. He has his. His following. But you could do the week of.

[Maal]

Yeah, I guess that's. That's effective at this point. People's attention spans.

[Rory]

Yeah, I guess. Yeah, I guess something might. Maybe tonight. Maybe we might drop something tonight.

[Maal]

I can see that. But I'd like to sit with him just because I'm curious, like, where his head is at. That's a crazy. He's been through six years.

[Rory]

Like, he's been through. He's from the.

[Maal]

He saved golden child.

[Rory]

Saved somebody's life in a burning car.

[Maal]

About that.

[Rory]

Remember that? Remember which chance was. Was.

[Maal]

Was.

[Rory]

He was Superman for the day.

[Maal]

Yes.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Maal]

And that's how cruel the Internet was. They saw that and was like, but he's married. Yeah.

[Rory]

No married man is getting out of the car to help anybody.

[Maal]

Technically, that's cheating.

[Rory]

Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Maal]

But yeah. He said. Went from the golden child to album that nobody with to a divorce. Like. Yes.

[Rory]

That's.

[Maal]

He's lived six. Six years.

[Rory]

Yeah. Let's hear it, man. Let's. Let's. Let's. Let's hear what chance had to do.

[Maal]

I want to say rest in peace to the Bobby Altoff podcast. She's still alive. Just to her podcast, she announced.

[Rory]

Oh, Bobby is over.

[Maal]

Right. Right. When we sat down to hit Record Forward, she announced that the podcast is now over.

[Rory]

Really? Wow.

[Maal]

I didn't know if it was, like, a troll, but it. It's on her actual YouTube page of the podcast saying, this is the last episode. She thought it was gonna do better. It fell off a little bit. I mean, is she.

[Rory]

Is she done podcasting, or she, like, just done with this podcast?

[Maal]

It was vague because, you know. You know, Bobby's very cryptic.

[Rory]

Yes.

[Maal]

When you get. Right.

[Rory]

One of the most cryptic that we.

[Maal]

Have, she's like the Dilla of podcast.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Maal]

Never. You know.

[Damaris]

Okay.

[Maal]

Sometimes it's offbeat, but it's on beat. You're like, yo, how do you. How'd you do that? This doesn't even make musical sense of how good this is.

[Rory]

Yo, say Bobby.

[Maal]

Also, it's.

[Rory]

The Dilla podcast is one of the craziest things I've ever.

[Maal]

That's like what everybody says.

[Rory]

Nobody has ever said that.

[Maal]

I'm just repeating what the Internet person.

[Rory]

On the planet that has ever said that.

[Maal]

Literally the only person.

[Rory]

Person.

[Maal]

Is she the Tom Brady of podcasting. Because she. She did lose her family for this.

[Rory]

She did not. No. Not even.

[Maal]

She lost her whole family.

[Rory]

Yeah. I Don't know.

[Maal]

She lost her family to the game.

[Rory]

Yo, that is hilarious, man. But damn, Bobby had a run, though. She put some numbers on the board. We ain't gonna act like she ain't put some numbers on the board now.

[Maal]

Oh, hell yeah.

[Rory]

Yeah, she put some numbers up.

[Maal]

She made me laugh on a few. But honestly, her numbers, like, aren't terrible.

[Rory]

No, not at all.

[Maal]

So I. I mean, I guess. I guess when you're going from Nick Cannon and then like the next week is little tj, I can see where things are changing a bit.

[Rory]

It's a little where we at.

[Maal]

It's kind of why. No disrespect to Lil tj, but, like, it was Mark Cuban before that. Lil TJ being the last episode before you do. This is the last episode. I'm done podcasting. That's crazy.

[Rory]

Yeah, that's just like, look at the mirror. Look in the mirror. Like, oh, come on. All right.

[Maal]

Like, you don't really go out like John Elway.

[Rory]

Ye. Yeah, definitely not John Elwood. But damn, man. Shout out to Bobby Altoff. You know, good luck on whatever she decides to do. I'm sure she'll. We'll see her somewhere else doing something else. Maybe just as the end of just her podcasting. But she has. Yeah, she has a personality. She has a following, so I'm sure she'll do something.

[Maal]

Yeah, I mean, you never know, man. This could be the retirement to go on to superstardom. Yeah, she's been next. Meryl Streep. Never know her. You never know her.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Maal]

Never know what?

[Rory]

All right, Baby D. What's up with your girl Ari, man?

[Damaris]

What I do? What she do?

[Rory]

Oh, my God. You just.

[Damaris]

I seen the. The discourse.

[Maal]

The discourse.

[Damaris]

I seen the discourse that she kind of. Are you talking about Ari Lennox in reference to saying that the jokes about Pam were anti black?

[Rory]

Yes.

[Damaris]

Okay. I don't think that she's being overly sensitive. She's not the first person to ever say that. That's like, been a running, like thing that the reason why in. In a lot of those days and some shows now that the sidekick is always a dark skinned woman and she catches a lot of jokes. Do I think that people always found Pam to be fine? Yes.

[Rory]

But Baby D, newsflash. Martin joked on everybody on that show. For sure.

[Damaris]

For sure.

[Rory]

Even his own. Even his own girlfriend, for sure. What are we talking about?

[Damaris]

But she's not. But what I'm saying is I don't want to make that AI thing because she's not the first person to ever bring that up.

[Rory]

Okay. But she's the loudest person to bring that up. Bring it up.

[Damaris]

Okay. Well, some people think that there are colorism conversations and little undersided jokes of like the side, the sidekick, the light skinned girl with the black sidekick.

[Rory]

And does colorism exist in television, film, Hollywood? Absolutely. Was Martin being a colorist towards Pam? He never mentioned her complexion one time on that show as a joke. It was always her hair. It was always referring to her as being manly, can't find a man. Okay, so it was never because you're dark skinned.

[Damaris]

Okay, so those are all, those are all stereotypes that are used with dark skinned women being too, being masculine, not being able to keep a man and being nappy headed. Those are anti black tropes that are attributed to black to dark skinned black women.

[Rory]

He used to talk about Gina's Kitchen too and say her head was big.

[Damaris]

He said her head was. Because that's a trope against light skinned women. Light skinned women got big ass heads. That's a trope against light skinned women that they got big foreheads. So everything that, the moment you started naming those things, those are all anti black women, anti dark skinned women sentiment. So he doesn't have to mention her color, but those are all things that society has attributed to dark skinned women. Are you seeing what I'm saying? So I do get that. Everybody knew Pam was fine. Like everybody. Well, if you knew, you knew. But, but back in those days, light skinned women were heralded as the thing. Like you need the light skinned wife or the light skinned girlfriend. And then you got the dark skinned side chick. And I'm gonna call her nappy headed manly and say she can't keep a man. She's not pulling that out of her ass. Like that's not something she pulled out of her ass. She's not the first person to say that. I can see both sides.

[Rory]

What was the complexion of miss Claire Huxtable on the Cosby Show?

[Damaris]

She was brown skinned. But that's also what was the complexion.

[Rory]

Of fancy on Jamie Foxx?

[Damaris]

Well, first of all, she, Claire Huxtable is my color. She, she barely. She barely brown.

[Rory]

It's that barely brown is your complexion.

[Damaris]

No, she's not. Tashina's a little bit darker.

[Rory]

Arnold is your complexion.

[Damaris]

She's a little bit darker than me.

[Rory]

Tashina Arnold, is your complexion.

[Damaris]

Okay, we can agree to disagree. I might be your complexion, but yeah.

[Rory]

What I'm saying is brown skinned women, the first mom in Fresh Prince was a brown skin and they Got rid.

[Damaris]

Of her and got and replaced it with a light skin.

[Rory]

That was the big thing, which was the craziest mom move. But I'm saying the original character was casted as a brown skinned black woman. I'm just, again, this victim mentality thing, we got to move past it because if we just look at the landscape, black women, brown skin women have been represented on every level for years. They have now. You can point out instances where maybe. And that's cool, but it's like, okay, but maybe just this actress was better than the brown skin actress and that's why she was casted here.

[Damaris]

Or that's not what happened with Fresh Prince and they all came out.

[Rory]

I'm not saying, I'm not talking about Fresh Prince specific. I'm just saying the original mom in Fresh Prince was casted as a brown skinned black woman. Correct. So again, when they made the change, of course it was weird. We all recognized that. That was crazy. It was like y' all couldn't even go cast another brown, like a brown skin, darker skinned woman. Like y' all got a lighter skinned woman, like to not even try to like, you know, kind of fool us a little bit. Y' all just completely just made a shit. Okay, cool. But what I'm saying is brown skinned women have always been represented in television. When you go back to good times, all of these shows like, so my thing is, how do we get to a, first of all, comedy number one where jokes is gonna be cracked. That's number one. Martin, who's a. It's not like Martin is a white man playing this role and he's cracking on his wife's best friend who's a brown skinned woman. He's a black man, but he's cracking on everybody.

[Damaris]

Yes.

[Rory]

All of his friends got it. They all, anytime they walk through the door, it's jokes. We can't turn this into. Yo, this was. It made me feel away. And we all laughed. We all still laugh. Nobody. Have you ever once you. I'm just talking about you. Nevermind what the Internet is saying. Have you ever once watched Martin and felt like what he said to Pam was inappropriate?

[Damaris]

Not as far as being inappropriate, no. But I'm very aware of, of tropes against black women.

[Rory]

But in we all are, I'm talking about this specific Martin, the show with Martin and Pam's character and Pam's character, Tasina Arnold's character, Pam. Did you ever watch that and feel like, yo, he kind of going crazy on Pam.

[Damaris]

No, it's not.

[Rory]

And it's only because she dark skinned.

[Damaris]

It's not about that. It's about he would. The things that he said to Pam even if he wasn't in a. If the actresses were switched and Gina was somehow the best friend or that Gina had another light skinned best friend, the jokes would not have been that they were manly. Can't keep a man in that nappy headed. Those would not have been the jokes. They would have still got joked on, but those wouldn't have been the jokes.

[Rory]

But he's made nappy headed jokes about Gina before.

[Damaris]

He might have said something about like, oh, like you need to straighten your hair or something like there's something like that. But even that in itself is anti black. Just because he's saying it to a light skinned woman is still anti black woman. Like making comments about black women's hair is anti black. Now I'm not vilifying Martin because we're much more aware of these things these days, but just because nobody was talking about it back then doesn't mean that people can't look back back and peep it. We look back on old TV shows all the time and peep. That was like, that was a little crazy. Doesn't mean anybody deserves to be canceled or anything like that. No, but Ari just came out and said that she felt some type of way about that because those are anti black women tropes. There's nothing manly.

[Rory]

It makes sense if that's coming from somebody who's not a black man who we know loves black women.

[Damaris]

But that's saying. That's like saying black people can't be colorist. And that's not true because we're, we're the worst at it. Of course, white people is just you, you a light skinned, dark skinned you.

[Rory]

A. I'm talking very specific to Martin Lawrence.

[Damaris]

But, but.

[Rory]

Cause we know that he wrote on the show. We know that a lot of it was improv. We know that a lot of it was him throwing his comedy into it. So do we think that Martin Lawrence is a colorist? Because that's what we would be saying here.

[Damaris]

I think that throughout. I think that throughout the. It's not a. I don't think it's as black as white, black and white as that. I think that colorism has been so embedded in our society that somebody might not be a bad person for having. For contributing stereotypes to different colors and different shades of black. Because that's just so embedded in our society. The same way that dark skinned women are automatically labeled as aggressive more Aggressive and light skinned women are labeled as softer, even if no one says it out loud. This has been a societal thing for forever. It's embedded in society. It's an automatic thought. And unless you're super hyper aware of the things that you're thinking in the way that you're moving, you wouldn't even know because it's just always been like that. So I understand what Ari is saying. I don't think it's specific to Martin. And I didn't get offended by what was going on in Martin.

[Rory]

I don't think nobody has ever gotten offended by Martin.

[Damaris]

But like I said, she's not the first person to bring that up about Martin. There is nothing. There is nothing manly about Tichina Arnold. Nothing manly about her.

[Rory]

That's why it's called a joke.

[Damaris]

Yeah, but this is the thing. Why would that joke even be made?

[Rory]

But because that's his bet. That's his. His. His girlfriend's best. That's what you're supposed to do.

[Damaris]

If she on your girlfriend, he was light skinned, he would never have called her. But this. But that's what it is.

[Rory]

No, that's not what it is.

[Damaris]

Okay?

[Rory]

That's what they're trying. That's what they're trying to make it. That's what Ari is trying to make it and paint it as. Okay, but that's not what it is. We can like that. And that's the victim mentality. It has to. We can't, we can't do that to Martin Lawrence in the, in, in. In the legendary show that is Martin. We cannot do that because we know that that's not what it was and that's not what it is.

[Damaris]

How do you, how do you know that, though? That's what I'm saying. You say, how do you know that?

[Rory]

Damaris. We've watched this show. It's been syndicated reruns for years. It's on Netflix. Nobody has ever watched it and said, yo, I ain't going to lie. He going crazy on Pam. And it's only because she, she brown skin.

[Damaris]

But that's because you weren't, you weren't really looking for it. And you wouldn't be the victim in that. Like, you wouldn't be the.

[Rory]

That don't mean I can't see the victim and know that some, some colorism is going on because I'm not the victim.

[Damaris]

But we. But what I'm saying is that show came out years ago. First of all, we can end this conversation because we're not gonna agree and that's fine. But I just think that, like I said, nobody's calling Martin.

[Rory]

I don't.

[Damaris]

Well, I'm not calling Martin a bad person. I just think that again, colorism is so embedded in our society that half the time we don't even notice it when it pops up.

[Rory]

And I also think that colorism is so embedded in our society that we call something colorism when it's not. Okay, that's what I think. I think that is so embedded.

[Damaris]

Throughout history, darker skin, darker brown and darker skinned women have been labeled as ugly, as manly and aggressive and nappy headed. Those are all colorist tropes. So if they pop up in jokes back in the day, yeah, the same way niggas used to call darker skinned people African booty scratchers. These things were real. Like this, this happened. But back in the day we were not as sensitive to it. But that doesn't make it like less real. Light skinned girls have always been labeled as prettier and more attractive and small. Softer though. That's real. They have studies on like that. That is real.

[Rory]

I'm not saying it's not. I'm saying here in this instance, it's not real. That's all I'm saying. I'm not saying that it doesn't exist.

[Damaris]

You think that, you think that Martin Lawrence in the 90s and the 90s, you think that he was above being affected by society's tropes? You think that he was just way beyond that. You don't think that society affected him in his writing at all?

[Rory]

I'm not going to say no. I don't think him. No, the same thing. Well, first of all, Tichina Arnold and Tisha Campbell are like best friends in real life. They done multiple movies together, of course. So, like they were casted probably because they have a history. Like, I think they've all done movies before this together when they were all in the same movie.

[Damaris]

So do you think it's possible that the same person that has a stereotypical trope on his show named Shanane, is that her? You don't think that that person.

[Rory]

Who.

[Damaris]

Created that character is capable of having a little bit of colorism in their jokes, even if they're not doing it on purpose?

[Rory]

I'm not saying he's not capable of having colorism in his jokes. I'm saying I don't think that. That was Martin's point and that was his thought process.

[Damaris]

Oh, I don't think so either. I don't think so either.

[Rory]

So what are we Talking about?

[Damaris]

No, because what I'm saying is it's embedded. Sometimes we do, sometimes we have stereotypes in our head that because we were raised on it, we don't even think about it. It's not us intentionally being racist or being colorist or anything. These are things that this was the way the world was when we were raised. So there's some things we just don't think about. I don't think he was intentionally trying to be harmful because she was dark skinned. I think those were automatically the jokes he went to because that's what people have always said about dark skinned women. It's the easy, low hanging fruit. That's what I'm saying. But again, we don't have to. We can agree or disagree. I understand people's point in saying that, you know, there can be a victim mentality with that and I also understand Ari's point because she's not the first dark skinned girl to have ever said that. She's not the first person to bring up the fact that there was obviously a clear difference in between the light skinned girl and the dark skinned girl on that show. And also I think if you ask the actors and the actresses, even though they're all cool with each other and the writers, I think they can understand where those tropes come from too because I'm sure they've experienced that in Hollywood.

[Rory]

I would love to hear from Tashina Arnold about that.

[Damaris]

Yeah, I would love to hear from her too. I doubt she speak on it, but.

[Rory]

She would speak on it. Why wouldn't she? I think she would put it to bed very quickly. Like no, that's not what the energy was. I never once felt like that. I think if Tsina Arnold felt like that slightly, that would have disappeared from the.

[Damaris]

But again, I don't think that he was doing it intentionally or whether he.

[Rory]

Was or he wasn't. I'm saying if she felt like that at some point in the whole Martin world, she would have said something to the writer, she would have come out and said it. We would have heard her talk about it. Now that years passed, the show is over, I'm sure she would have said something about it and maybe she did. I could be ignorant to the and never saw her speak about it. But I'm just saying I've never seen it, I've never heard it. This is the first time I'm ever hearing anybody speak about their characters dynamics and saying bring the whole colorism thing and this down the third. I just think that victim mentality is Real colorism is real. And I think we just gotta find the spots where we know for sure that's what that is. But if it's not, which I don't think Martin is, I don't think that was a colorism thing. I don't think that that was on his mind. I don't think that was a part of the energy of the show. I just think that was the best friend of my girlfriend. And you know, you know how the relationships are with your girl. Your best friend's boyfriend, it's like, he don't like you, you don't like him. You don't think he's good enough for your girl. He think that you the single friend who be trying to have her out in the face of other guys and things. It's that dynamic. You come in the crib, it's like, yo, what you? What's up? What you want? Like, I don't think it was because she was brown skinned. Like, I just don't. I don't. I don't get that.

[Damaris]

Well, since Ma doesn't agree with me, white man, what do you think?

[Maal]

I think Full House shows you that the nuclear family is whatever you make it.

[Damaris]

Oh, okay, cool.

[Maal]

And also, happy Gil Morris 2 is an incredible film and definitely needed a reboot.

[Damaris]

Did you see?

[Maal]

Listen, I'm just trying to stay out of black people's business. I'm just doing my best.

[Damaris]

It was a test.

[Maal]

It was a test.

[Rory]

I'm just doing my best. Your marriage through a grenade. No pin in it. Right? Right on your left. And you trying to figure out, stay.

[Maal]

Quiet for the whole segment.

[Rory]

It's all good.

[Maal]

Anyways, what's everyone watching? I did watch Happy Gilmore too.

[Rory]

What'd you think about it?

[Maal]

It's not a cop out answer. I didn't need it, but I didn't mind it. If it never existed, did the world would remain the exact same.

[Rory]

So it's not Belly too?

[Maal]

I have not seen Belly too.

[Rory]

You never saw Belly Tooth. Oh, so it's not.

[Maal]

Nothing was worse than when I brought up Belly too, as a joke with Chris Gotti. And he was like, yo, I produced that. No one brought that up. I thought, like, I even searched my Twitter to see if, like, anyone would catch, like. Yeah, because we didn't cut it out.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Maal]

I was like, well, that was awkward. And even how I cleaned it up was kind of bad. I just. And that's my man's too, so I felt really awful. But Happy Gilmore. Happy Gilmore. The first one is a classic for sure.

[Rory]

Without a doubt.

[Maal]

It, it changed. The world was one way and the world was a different way after. Yeah, I'm saying the, the world did not change, but I didn't mind it. Like it's a reboot of somebody that's in their 50s of something they did as a classic in their, their 30s.

[Rory]

I, I liked it. I thought it was cool. I wasn't like you said, I wasn't like, yes, this is incredible. I didn't feel like that. But it was, it was, it was a cool movie. It was like a, like a pan homage to the first one. There were a lot of callbacks, a lot of characters who were not in this one. But this is their son.

[Maal]

Everybody's kid. Everybody's kid.

[Rory]

Yeah. So you know, I like that aspect of it. They now they, the elephant in the room. They threw some shots at our guys over at live golf. That's what the whole, the whole premise of the whole thing was.

[Maal]

Not exactly, but yeah, it was.

[Rory]

What do you mean not exactly? They almost. It was exactly. They just didn't say live golf.

[Maal]

But that's not what live golf is exactly doing.

[Rory]

I'm not saying that's what they're doing but. And you know, if you ask the pga, that's what li Golf.

[Maal]

You're not wrong there.

[Rory]

Yes, this is exactly what live golf is doing.

[Maal]

Out the gate. Cuz I went in with no expectations. I didn't want to come in like h, I'm going to be a hater or I can't, I can't wait. When he killed his wife off the drive, I said oh, this may be one of the funniest movies I've ever seen. Like out the gate you killed your wife.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Maal]

That's how your wife died.

[Rory]

Right?

[Maal]

I thought it was going to be the funniest movie ever at that point. And then it just, it was cool.

[Rory]

It was cool. It was cool. Not mad at it. And we, we obviously love and support Adam Sandler, so.

[Maal]

And it's okay to just like relax and watch. Stupid humor.

[Rory]

Yeah. Like, but I did like the fact that, you know, in watching Happy Gilmore too, naturally I watched the first one. I had to go back to the first one.

[Maal]

I was a little mad at, at, at Chub's son. Like they didn't have to make him like that. Like Chubs was an upstanding. Just cuz he have a hand. Like he, he was relatively in shape for his age. Like he was a golf pro. They just made his son just some fat piece of. That was.

[Rory]

Oh my God.

[Maal]

The mini golf spot.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Maal]

They didn't have to do that to him.

[Rory]

No, listen, man. Yeah, that's his son. His son. His son is not like that. Or is it his son?

[Maal]

Did you think that. That Happy was going to bang the dance coach?

[Rory]

Yes.

[Maal]

Yeah, that. That. That storyline just let like that they led you into that whole thing, and I was like, oh, this is going to be the new mom. They abandoned that storyline within five seconds.

[Rory]

Yeah. He's a changed man. Changed Happy. I did enjoy it, though. Shout out to Adam Sandler again. Happy Gilmore is obviously, you know, a cult classic, and it was cool to see him do a second one and kind of have fun with. With the brand. So. Yeah, Happy Gil, too. That's the only movie, the new one I watched.

[Maal]

Where. Where do we rank the Sixth Sense kid in child actors?

[Rory]

The Sixth Sense kid.

[Maal]

Yeah. I see dead people. He's like one of the most famous taglines in movie history.

[Rory]

Okay, where.

[Maal]

Where do we rank him on child actors?

[Rory]

He's.

[Maal]

He keeps up and he was in the Entourage movie. He's been. He's been in some.

[Rory]

He's no Barrymore.

[Maal]

Well, I mean, come on. She. She's.

[Rory]

He's no Barry.

[Maal]

She let out Reese's Pieces, had the most legendary career of all time.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Maal]

But I think we need to put a little respect on his name because we've watched a lot of child actors, like, lose it, and he was a cute kid and didn't turn out to be a cute man.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Maal]

And he's still getting roles, so, I.

[Rory]

Mean, you don't think he's a unit.

[Maal]

Not until they took his ligament out or whatever. The. It's so he could swing.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

I feel like if we doing, like, that type of ranking with child. Dakota Fanning. Spanking. All these.

[Maal]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Outside of.

[Rory]

All right. I must say, she's outside of Barrymore.

[Damaris]

But Dakota Fanning, my. Wasn't she, like, the youngest person ever to ever win an Oscar or some like that? Like my been spanking she.

[Maal]

And they called her the. They boxed her in. She was the female. I see dead people. And then she just went out the gate.

[Damaris]

She went crazy.

[Maal]

What was the first movie that made her famous again?

[Damaris]

Oh, God. It was the one with. She played a creepy kid with Leonardo decap. Not Leonardo. Huh.

[Maal]

Holy.

[Damaris]

Oh, wow.

[Maal]

Dakota Fanning is an IMC him. But what was the scary movie that, like, really put her on?

[Damaris]

The one with Robert Dairo.

[Maal]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

What the was the name of that? That's why I remember her from the one she was in. Man on Fire. Damn.

[Maal]

She was in everything. That's the girl that gets kidnapped in man on Fire.

[Damaris]

Hide is what I'm talking about.

[Rory]

And not only that. And she's in equalizer 3 with Denzel as the new agent. As the FBI agent. Look how that whole story.

[Damaris]

Oh, wow.

[Maal]

All right, hold on.

[Damaris]

Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

[Maal]

She may rival.

[Damaris]

Put some respect name like. She's crazy. Crazy Drew Barrymore is just extremely famous.

[Rory]

Is the code of Fanning. Because I'm. I'm. I'm old, but I. I don't think I'm that old. She's not the daughter for Mrs. Doubtfire, is she? No.

[Maal]

Okay, all white people don't look like.

[Damaris]

Yes, sure I do.

[Maal]

Because I'm looking at that like she wasn't Matilda either. That was Mar Wilson.

[Rory]

Okay? Mar Wilson. Who was Matilda?

[Maal]

Okay, I didn't even know. See, look at my brain.

[Rory]

That's right there. I'm just right there.

[Maal]

The way Braun is a hip hop historian.

[Rory]

You didn't even see. I threw that off the glass and.

[Maal]

Then I said Matilda.

[Rory]

I didn't even look. Yeah, go get it. Go get a bucket, man. Come on. This is what I do, man.

[Maal]

I don't know. Dakota might be up there, because to Damaris Point. Yeah, Drew, she's famous. Like you take out Charlie's Angels.

[Rory]

See? All right, well, take away Jordan's Fade Away. My closet is 80% empty. If you take that out, take away Jordan's Fade Away. My closet is 80 empty.

[Maal]

All right, Dakota. Man on fire. She's smoking. Child actor Drew Barrymore is not even close. Even though ET Is a classic. Dakota, the y' all named. I forgot she was even in all of those movies. Yeah, that's like a Leonardo DiCaprio.

[Rory]

Oh, there you go.

[Maal]

Discography. Before you're even 15.

[Rory]

Leo's the greatest child actor.

[Maal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

I mean, Leon Drew Baby Barrymore.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Pick one.

[Damaris]

Yeah. I feel like we.

[Maal]

I think we should be having the Dakota Fanning Leo conversation. What's your favorite Drew Barrymore films after, like, she became an adult? Like, you love the one with Jimmy Fallon where they love the Red Sox.

[Rory]

Not that one. I didn't love that. I don't know if love is the word. I love that.

[Maal]

Which, by the way, classic. Classic. Yeah. I'm not classic. First of all, I'm not mad at the Jimmy Fallon Red Sox movie either.

[Rory]

He's just not that into you.

[Maal]

Wait, she wasn't even the lead in that.

[Rory]

She's in it, though. It doesn't matter.

[Maal]

She. Dakota is the lead. She's the lead girl that gets kidnapped.

[Rory]

Every time she was at the lead. Denzel is the lead. Are you kidding me?

[Maal]

Denzel doesn't have purpose unless she's there.

[Rory]

That's. That's a fact.

[Damaris]

What about Jason Weaver?

[Rory]

All right, now, baby. Dvd. That's my guy. Famous mom that's a huge supporter of.

[Maal]

This podcast and one of the number one recording artists when it comes to.

[Rory]

Any animated Jackson series on VH1.

[Damaris]

Lion King.

[Rory]

Yeah, but that's smart guy. Yeah. The shy.

[Damaris]

Thea.

[Rory]

Thea.

[Maal]

You guys leave out. Atl. I'm fighting everybody.

[Rory]

Atl. No, I get it. Yeah. Drumline. Yeah, he got. No, listen, he got Jason Weaver, got some joints, but those aren't box office smashes. Those aren't like, you know, that's not.

[Maal]

Man. You know what surpasses. You know what surpasses? Leo et, The Red Sox, Everything. He's saying, I just can't wait to be king.

[Damaris]

Yeah, I'm just saying. I'm just saying has.

[Maal]

That's above everything. We just named the Internet. You cannot make an argument I just can't wait to be king. The original version was sung by Jason Weaver. That surpasses Wolf of Wall Street.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Maal]

It goes past everything.

[Damaris]

So the Internet is saying that the most famous child actor, like, if you were to think in your head, child actor, the first person that comes to your mind would be Macaulay Culkin. He's the most famous child act actor of all time. Not as an adult, but as a child. If you line the children up, oh, Macaulay Culkin is the most famous child actor of all time.

[Maal]

For sure.

[Rory]

The Home Alone brand. Alone is.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Rory]

I mean, they had a video game.

[Damaris]

And then they say the second one would be Daniel Radcliffe, who is. Who played Harry Potter. That's seven. That's eight bangers. Eight bangers in a row.

[Rory]

Yeah, but what has he done outside of the Harry Potter brand? If I saw Homie and Peaky Blinders, I wouldn't be like, yo, that's. That's Harry Potter. I would. You know what I'm saying?

[Maal]

Hasn't he tried another movie or two? I feel like I've seen him pop up, but it just was like, yo, why they put Harry Potter?

[Rory]

He plays like. He plays a lot of, like. I feel like I've seen him as, like, an agent.

[Damaris]

Like, now you see me, now you don't.

[Rory]

He was. He was in that.

[Maal]

What's so up about Harry Potter and the Typecast? We were talking about old boy From get him to the Greek. Remember Maloy's only role after that? It was in get him to the Greek. And they were like, yo, let's go play some Quidditch. And he's like, dude, we're at the club. Like, I'm a real person.

[Damaris]

Dude, we're at the club is funny as.

[Maal]

He's like. I'm like, I'm not that actor, apparently.

[Damaris]

Oh, he was in the Woman in Black, too. I remember the Woman in Black. I remember the Woman in Black. It was like a scary movie. It came out in 2012.

[Rory]

You want to give me, like, the.

[Damaris]

I don't really exactly remember what she's gonna tell me.

[Rory]

A movie came out in 02. Like, yeah, no, I remember Bas. In a village in a vill, baby. D. All right, we not doing this. We not doing In a Village.

[Maal]

I knew what movie she was talking about right away.

[Rory]

In a Village.

[Damaris]

A young solicitor travels to a remote village to where he discovers that the vengeful ghost of a scorned woman is terrorizing the locals.

[Maal]

Oh, yeah, Everyone remembers that.

[Rory]

A vengeful ghost of a. Yeah, No, I didn't see that.

[Damaris]

That one, I remember. I. I saw it just because he was in it, but I can't remember it, which means it probably wasn't good.

[Maal]

But listen, I would take. I would take that career.

[Rory]

I mean, Robert Downey. Robert Downey.

[Damaris]

I'd never seen him as a kid.

[Rory]

What I.

[Damaris]

He would be.

[Maal]

He would 1,000% be in this conversation. Yeah.

[Rory]

Robert Downey Jr. Pull it up. Just pull up.

[Damaris]

As a kid.

[Maal]

Yeah, he started up.

[Rory]

Just pull up, Rob.

[Damaris]

He's iron man to me. I don't know what.

[Maal]

The Outsiders was, like, his 15th movie.

[Rory]

Pull up Robert Downey Jr. Yo. Because I don't think y' all really, like, wow.

[Damaris]

He had been in the.

[Maal]

I don't actually think he was the only non a list actor that was an outsider, Yo.

[Rory]

You kidding me?

[Damaris]

Ah, that's interesting.

[Rory]

Weird science, y' all wasn't there. Y' all too young for that.

[Damaris]

Yeah, I don't think I was born. What year was that?

[Rory]

Back to school.

[Damaris]

Yes. Small. Small.

[Maal]

Literally every actor that used to saw, like, have a cocaine addiction for real, publicly was a child actor before Chaplin.

[Rory]

Did. Nah, I ain't gonna lie. Robert Downey Jr. His. Because he go back to the early 80s.

[Maal]

It was a super underrated movie. The Judge with Robert Downey Jr. Yeah. Like, really?

[Rory]

Yeah, that was. That was a good movie.

[Maal]

Like, that should have got awards type.

[Rory]

It didn't.

[Maal]

I don't think so. But that movie is incredible.

[Damaris]

Ma. What are you currently watching?

[Rory]

So I did I seen Happy Gilmore too. I watched that. I'm still watching baddies more. Baby D. You got catch up. Is lit. I would have to start from Summer is back. She got right back to the J.

[Maal]

I promise you could start at any episode you want.

[Rory]

And it's Summer came out on. She back in. She squaring up with everybody. It's lit. Come on. Jump on. It's all good. They still in Africa. Johannesburg. Tune in Baby D. But I've been watching that. I. I still got to see Superman.

[Damaris]

Oh, I got to see that too.

[Maal]

Every review has been horrible. Like I wouldn't.

[Rory]

People hated the last Batman and I thought that was dope.

[Damaris]

That was sleepy as.

[Maal]

I don't know if I saw last Batman. That was so when was the last Batman?

[Damaris]

It was with the dude from Twilight. You remember Robert Pattinson.

[Rory]

You didn't like. You didn't like the last Batman page. That was dope. Like. And that got bad review people. Wasn't really everybody want the boom pow and all that and back. That ain't. I'm not. Give me a story and give me good acting. It don't necessarily have to be fight scenes. And show me I didn't see this Batman.

[Damaris]

Superman gets his ass whooped the whole time. So you'll like it.

[Rory]

But I want to see that.

[Maal]

I'm at the seventh episode of the most current season of the Bear. I. I don't want to. I don't want to disappoint you. Damaris.

[Damaris]

It's ass.

[Maal]

No, it's not ass. It's just like weirdly emotional.

[Damaris]

It was emotional.

[Maal]

I. I know, but you're going to understand what I'm saying when you watch it. Every season's been emotional. This one is just like kind of, you know, that one friend that like, only like, brings up therapy topics and it's like, do you even like, get into your own emotions or you just repeat what therapy says to you?

[Damaris]

Yeah, that.

[Maal]

It's just like that. It's odd. It's weird. It's not the emotion that. The chaotic emotion that was once there that I love loved in that show is. It's just. Did they get new writers? Like, it feels like a chat GBT version of Give me emotion in a script. It's just weird. And then they're like, homie goes to the wedding of his ex wife to make his daughter. It just. It was such like an obvious script where the bear never gave me opinion. Obvious okay. It's just. Yeah. Of course everyone's gonna get to the wedding, and he's gonna find out that the husband. The new husband's actually a good guy, and we can figure this out together. It's like, this is not the show. No. Somebody drive a car into the house.

[Damaris]

Yo.

[Maal]

And show what real life is like. Yo. Because he wouldn't have been cool with that wedding.

[Rory]

Okay.

[Damaris]

I'm gonna have to check it out. I have to. I'm. I'm gonna get to it.

[Maal]

Watching. I'm just saying you're going to be disappointed based off how much we've loved the first three seasons.

[Damaris]

Okay.

[Maal]

It's. This season is just too, like. It's like a soap. It's like a daytime soap opera.

[Damaris]

Ah, okay. I'm. I'm interested. I'll see. I'll check it out, see if I agree with you. M. You asked me what I'm watching. Currently I am watching. And just like that, which is the Sex in the City reboot. Update. Carrie is still a terrible person.

[Maal]

And then how old is Carrie now?

[Damaris]

Carries in her 50s, going in the 60s.

[Maal]

So it's okay to say she's the problem, Right.

[Rory]

Well, her husband died on the Peloton. You know where they stock went after that? Y' all.

[Maal]

So up.

[Rory]

Yo. Y' all don't remember what Peloton stocked when after that. I remember. I remember, yo. The company almost folded because of that episode. That's a fact.

[Damaris]

They had to put him in a commercial.

[Rory]

Yeah. Saying like, yo, listen, like, it's not like, it's okay. Like, yeah, that was like, a real thing. Like, Peloton stock went down crazy after that.

[Maal]

Do you think they cleared that? Like, they had to, or they would have sued, right?

[Rory]

I don't know if it's. No, I don't think you can.

[Damaris]

Yeah, I don't really think you can.

[Rory]

Sue because they don't even let us.

[Maal]

Wear logos in fucking photo shoots. And we're Z list celebrities.

[Damaris]

Hbo, baby. HBO had like, you're not gonna. You're not gonna. Well, in the beginning, like, I'm sure they didn't know that he was going to die. But in the beginning, if HBO says, I want to license this fucking logo or license this brand, Peloton is going to be like, no, HBO don't give us free advertising. I'm sure they didn't know that the script was going to end up killing him.

[Maal]

All right. From before time, it was all right. So what are you using it as? Like, where's our logo used how is it?

[Damaris]

I doubt. I doubt they asked.

[Maal]

So it says 1000% Aztec in sex.

[Rory]

In the City reboot. And just like that, a character dies after using a Peloton bike, leading to a significant drop in Peloton stock price and prompting the company to release a statement defending itself, its product. While Peloton did not pursue legal action against HBO or the show's producers, they did release a commercial featuring Chris Knoth, who plays a deceased character, and peloton instructor Jess King, seemingly in response to the negative portrayal.

[Maal]

So they tried to sue, and the compromise was. All right, this will be a great commercial that will help you.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Maal]

Rather than get some money, we'll spend it.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Maal]

First of all, I. I've told you guys, I've not watched Sex in the City. So how did he die? On a Peloton.

[Rory]

So he was working out at home. He's on a Peloton.

[Maal]

He had a heart attack.

[Rory]

He got off, and then, you know, I think he's about to get a shower or something. He had a heart attack.

[Maal]

Okay.

[Rory]

Yeah. So it wasn't like he was on the Peloton. And I think I'll go out there holding the Peloton. Like, he didn't have the heart attack on the Peloton, but shortly after he got off the Peloton, he had a.

[Damaris]

Heart attack, and he had already had heart problems.

[Maal]

Gotcha.

[Rory]

So, yeah. So. But Peloton just was kind of like, you know, the Easter egg in that whole thing.

[Damaris]

Like, yeah, they got him out.

[Rory]

That Peloton will kill you.

[Damaris]

First episode.

[Maal]

We're gonna get sued, and we can't be in a commercial to help.

[Rory]

No, I didn't say. I'm just saying that's the. You know, the energy that came. Came from that.

[Damaris]

But, yeah, so I'm. I'm watching that, and I am just realizing some things about, like, this dating just don't get easier. Like, even in your 50s, like, God damn. Like, after your first husband died, then she go back to her ex. She spun the block, you know, Carrie, my bitch spun the block to the. She originally was with. Before she cheated on that with her husband had died, so she went back to him, and now she mad at him because he thinks she's sleeping with the neighbor or he's suspicious of the neighbor. And she's like, why don't you trust me? And he's like, I don't fucking trust you. Like, you cheated on me before. And she's like, that was like 20 years ago. Like, get over it. Which I see Both sides. But yeah, that's what I'm watching right now. I'm watching that and I'm rewatching Succession with someone who has never seen Succession. So we're watching it for the. I'm watching it with them for the first time.

[Rory]

Succession is dope.

[Damaris]

Yeah, I still think that, Shiv.

[Rory]

I'm also watching Mobland. I don't know if y' all into Mobland yet.

[Maal]

No, I haven't. I told you I was going to put that on my queue.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Maal]

Succession may land in my. My top 20 TV shows of all time.

[Damaris]

Same. It might land in my top 10.

[Rory]

Top 10.

[Damaris]

It might land in my top 10.

[Maal]

Not including sitcoms. I know we've been through this argument before. Yeah, TV series.

[Damaris]

Dramas.

[Maal]

Yeah, dramas, I think.

[Rory]

Is Snowfall in your top 10? It's snowfall in your top.

[Maal]

Did you watch Snowflake?

[Damaris]

I did. Remember? You walked me through it.

[Rory]

Did you watch it? Did you finish it?

[Damaris]

I finished it.

[Rory]

Is that in your top 10?

[Damaris]

No, but I don't.

[Maal]

Like in my name. Top 25. Again, don't quote me because I'd have to, like, really think about it. Maybe top 25.

[Damaris]

I. So listen. I enjoyed Snowfall for what it was, but for it to be in my top. And my favorite. I don't like shows about drugs and killing and that type of. That's not my type of show. I don't like that.

[Rory]

You're from Syracuse.

[Damaris]

I'm from. Exactly. So I don't want to watch what I grew up around on tv.

[Rory]

Snow, like fall was probably shot and.

[Maal]

Produced in Syracuse, but.

[Damaris]

What. But.

[Maal]

But that's next to a house.

[Damaris]

So to me, TV is an escape. So I don't want to watch tv. That mirrors shit I saw growing up. It makes me very uncomfortable. I'd rather watch Rich White drama. That's my favorite type of show.

[Rory]

Oh, you like to watch and see how poor you really are. Oh, okay.

[Damaris]

Yeah. I like to escape from being poor.

[Rory]

Nah, I like to watch shows and see if the whites got my culture figured out. That's what I like.

[Maal]

Who do you think was. Who do you think in. In the TV world was responsible for more death? The Roy family from succession or any character in Snowfall period.

[Damaris]

Oh. Just because they're billionaires.

[Rory]

Woohoo. Woohoo. Not many people to kill. Yeah.

[Maal]

The centuries of that family.

[Rory]

Yeah, it's like it's different, but it's not really that different. Different succession and snowfalls.

[Maal]

No, they're different. I'm saying the people in Succession murdered way more people.

[Rory]

100%. 100%.

[Damaris]

That crack rock. I don't know. That crack rock spread.

[Maal]

Who do you think funded it? The Roy family?

[Rory]

Shut up, stupid. I mean, there's something to be talked about there. You could tie it in.

[Damaris]

But, yeah, I'm. I'm rewatching that. It's such a amazingly written show, and I like. I like the humor in that show. I don't like humor in a lot of shows because I don't like overly done humor. I. I like, like, sarcastic humor that you kind of, like, got to pay attention to to catch it or like, just like a zoom in on a face. Like, even if, like, you have to watch that show to catch, like, certain little nuances and things like that. Like, I.

[Maal]

How they shot it was brilliant. I mean, yeah, Succession. I liked the ending of Succession, same way I liked the ending of the Sopranos. I like endings that make me, five years later, wake up in my sleep and, like, wonder what those characters. Characters are doing.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Maal]

Whereas, like, Breaking Bad had the best sewn up ending ever, probably. You get. You got closure with every character and knew exactly what was gonna happen. I'm fine with that. I really, like, I've walked down, like, downtown in the Wall street area. What's. What's the son. Oldest son, Kendall.

[Damaris]

Ken.

[Maal]

Like, I've. I've tried to find the bench that Kendall was at to, like, see if he was still there. Like, I want to know where c. I know cousin Greg and I go to the same spots. Like, where are you at? I need to know what's going on.

[Damaris]

He owns a bar somewhere around.

[Maal]

Yeah, I heard he's handsy. Allegedly.

[Rory]

In real life.

[Maal]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Oh, that's unfortunate.

[Maal]

Yeah, I think.

[Rory]

So we got to start watching Succession now.

[Maal]

This was after the show was done. They.

[Rory]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Damaris]

He ain't get handsy. So. So, like, if you get handsy post.

[Maal]

Famous and got hands.

[Damaris]

Yeah, like, if you get handsy post show, like, we can still watch the show. I feel like that's the real rules.

[Maal]

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[Rory]

Whoa.

[Maal]

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[Guest]

It's the biggest party of the summer. WWE SummerSlam is here and wrestling with Freddy is all over it. We're talking wild matches, big surprises, and our boldest predictions yet. From celebrity show showdowns to the chaos inside a steel cage, we're breaking down every match and calling who we think walks out on top. This card is loaded. From Cody Rhodes, John Cena, Rhea, Ripley and Tiffy, just to name a few. This lineup is ready to tear down the house. We'll give you our unfiltered takes, honest debates and you already know, a ton of laughs along the way. We're covering the upsets, the wild returns and the championship moments. Nobody expects. We'll get into the matches that steal the show, the storyline, storylines that explode, and those oh my God, did that just happen moments that make SummerSlam legendary. Don't miss it. Listen to Wrestling with Freddy as part of the My Cultura Podcast network. Find us on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Rory]

Check out behind the Flow, a podcast documentary series following the launch of San Diego Football Club. We go behind the scenes and explore the stories of those involved. San Diego coming to MLS is going.

[Unknown]

To be a game changer because this.

[Rory]

Region has been hungry for a men's professional soccer team.

[Maal]

We need veteran players and we need young players. Like you're building a team from scratch and so the succession plan of long.

[Rory]

Term success needs to be defined.

[Maal]

We need to embrace this community.

[Rory]

When I was 13, my uncle took me to a qualifier and we watched Paraguay against Chile pouring rain.

[Maal]

Just watching the fans jumping up and.

[Rory]

Down, I think that was definitely a watershed moment for me.

[Maal]

Not only was that going to be.

[Rory]

My game, but it was going to be my life. Listen to San Diego FC behind the flow now on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Unknown]

What's up guys? Welcome to Agusto Papa, the go to spot for everything Music Mexicana. We're proud Mexican Americans who live and breathe this music. We started this podcast to share and discuss our views on musica Mexicana. Whether you like Peso Pluma, Los Alres del Barranco, Ariel Camacho or Ivan Cornejo. When you get in your fields, then this podcast is for you. We deep dive into music reviews.

[Rory]

First of all, my show last year.

[Unknown]

Everything was a 10 out of 10. Fashion and lifestyle inspired by the roots of musica mexicana, the craziest controversies and cheesemas.

[Rory]

I don't have nothing against Puerto, you know, and I don't think Jo should be mad at me.

[Unknown]

Song and artist comparisons. Competition in the scene. There is competition, there is sides to this, there's special Pluma Double P and there's jp. I think at the end of the day it's business, it's all competition. And of course, our personal stories and opinions along the way. This isn't just a podcast, it's a movement for fans who live Musica Mexicana every single day. Listen to Augusto Papa as part of the Michael Tura Podcast Network on the.

[Rory]

Iheartradio radio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever.

[Unknown]

You get your podcast.

[Maal]

Ah, come on. Why is this taking so long? This thing is ancient. Still using yesterday's tech Upgrade to the ThinkPad X1 Carbon Ultra Light, Ultra powerful and built for serious productivity with Intel Core Ultra processors, blazing speed and AI powered performance. It keeps up with your business, not the other way around. Whoa, this thing moves. Stop hitting snooze on new tech. Win the tech [e-mail] Lenovo Lenovo unlock AI experiences with the ThinkPad X1 carbon powered by Intel Core Ultra processors so you can work, create and boost productivity all on one device.

[Guest]

It'S the biggest party of the summer. WWE SummerSlam is here and Wrestling with Freddy is all over it. We're talking wild matches, big surprises and our boldest predictions, actions yet. From celebrity showdowns to the chaos inside a steel cage, we're breaking down every match and calling who we think walks out on top. This card is loaded from Cody Rhodes, John Cena, Rhea Ripley and Tiffy, just to name a few. This lineup is ready to tear down the house. We'll give you our unfiltered takes, honest debates and, you already know, a ton of laughs along the way. We're covering the upsets, the wild returns and the championship moments. Nobody expects we'll get into the matches that steal the show, the storylines that explode and those oh my God, did that just happen? Moments that make SummerSlam legendary. Don't miss it. Listen to Wrestling with Freddy as part of the My Cultura Podcast Network. Find us on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Rory]

Check out behind the Flow, a podcast documentary series following the launch of San Diego Football Club. We go behind the scenes and explore the stories of those involved. San Diego Coming to MLS is going.

[Unknown]

To be a game changer because this.

[Rory]

Region has been hungry for a men's professional soccer team.

[Maal]

We need veteran players and we need young players like you're building a team from scratch and so the succession Plan of long term success needs to be defined. We need to embrace this community.

[Rory]

When I was 13, my uncle took me to a qualifier and we watched Paraguay against Chile pouring rain.

[Maal]

Just watching the fans jumping up and.

[Rory]

Down, I think that was definitely a watershed moment for me.

[Maal]

Not only was that going to be.

[Rory]

My game, but it was going to be my life. Listen to San Diego FC behind the flow now on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Unknown]

What's up guys? Welcome to Agusto Papa, the go to spot for everything Musica me Mexicana. We're proud Mexican Americans who live and breathe this music. We started this podcast to share and discuss our views on musica mexicana. Whether you like Peso Pluma, Los Alres del Barranco, Ariel Camacho or Ivan Cornejo, when you get in your feels, then this podcast is for you. We deep dive into music reviews.

[Rory]

First of all, my show last year.

[Unknown]

Everything was a 10 out of 10. Fashion and lifestyle inspired by the roots of musica mexicana. The craziest controversies and cheesemas.

[Rory]

I don't have nothing against Puerto, you know, and I don't think Joe Peach should be be mad at me.

[Unknown]

Song and artist comparisons, competition in the scene. There is competition, there is sides to this, there's special Pluma, Double P and there's J O P Street mob. I think at the end of the day, it's business, it's all competition and of course, our personal stories and opinions along the way. This isn't just a podcast. It's a movement for fans who live musica Mexicana every single day. Listen to Augusto Papa as part of the Michael Tura podcast network on the.

[Rory]

I Heart Rate radio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast. You know what else I'm watching?

[Damaris]

What?

[Rory]

So I was watching Atlanta Dream in the Golden State Valkyries place.

[Maal]

And you was at the game when you was watching?

[Rory]

No, I was watching it. I was watching.

[Maal]

Okay. And just curious.

[Rory]

To my surprise and everyone else's, the game was stopped because someone threw an object on the floor.

[Maal]

Now, did you match purposely to the dildo?

[Rory]

Absolutely. Okay. This is dildo project.

[Damaris]

By the way, if you was wondering, that's gay.

[Maal]

That's why I asked if he was at the game.

[Rory]

So, so, so if he was wondering, that's game in NBA games, it's not uncommon. Somebody throws stuff on the floor, whether there's a bottle cap, cup, whatever, jersey, you know, fans get upset, end up throwing on the court. The. The other night, just between, you know, Golden State and Atlanta, the WNBA game. Game. For the first time ever, something flew into court that I.

[Maal]

That none of them are interested in, to my belief.

[Rory]

I don't think anybody threw that on the court. I think somebody forgot they had it on and it was. I think somebody had it on and forgot to take it off.

[Maal]

No, I feel like it would have been some.

[Rory]

I think that fell out of the straps. I'm thinking that fell out the shorts.

[Maal]

How deep are the pockets?

[Damaris]

Shut up, mom.

[Maal]

Cuz there's no. There would be some type of strap. But like, how do you get a.

[Rory]

Dildo into a game?

[Damaris]

That's mad easy. They not checking for it. Put it in your. It's not metal, baby D. It's not a hammer. It's not a real hammer, bro. Like, it's not metal.

[Rory]

Come on, baby D. If you telling me that you think that somebody had that dildo inserted in them and pulled it out and threw it back on the court.

[Damaris]

No, I'm. I'm saying that that's a possibility. You asked how it could. Got. Could have got in there. Somebody could have wore it as a strap on. It's not.

[Rory]

That's what I just said. I said it was. One of the players had it on. No, she forgot.

[Damaris]

No, she forgot. They're being an. One of the people who came to the game probably had it on.

[Maal]

Okay.

[Rory]

But none of the players had it on. In no world could none of the players have had it on.

[Maal]

I need you to break down to me how somebody could forget that they have a strap on. So that would mean she's naked with a strap on.

[Rory]

On.

[Maal]

And then she would be getting dressed to go to the arena and as she's pulling up her pants, she would forget that there was a dildo attached.

[Damaris]

To her vagina and then take her pants off and put on her shorts where the dildo is hanging out the side of the leg now. And she forgot.

[Maal]

And then play basketball.

[Damaris]

And then play basketball. Dildo dangling.

[Rory]

Yeah. Y' all don't see it?

[Damaris]

No. No.

[Maal]

And by the way, I would assume somebody would be at her house that she had this strap on. On four. That wouldn't be like, hey, just a reminder, you still have that on. It's a tie game with 50 seconds left to go.

[Damaris]

A tie game with 50 seconds left and dildo still on.

[Maal]

I don't think you're as crazy as Damaris for saying. Cuz I was going to say someone could easily sneak that in because it's not metal. You could put it in your pocket. Your bag or whatever. Damaris thought somebody would instead insert it inside themselves and then walk through a metal det.

[Rory]

Somebody boofed.

[Maal]

Both of y' all are crazy.

[Rory]

She thought somebody.

[Maal]

Both of y' all are insane.

[Rory]

Yo, you thought somebody booed the dildo to the game. That's craziness.

[Maal]

Again, by definition, what you do with the dildo is boof it.

[Rory]

And then my thing is purpose. My thing is who's who threw it on the court because what are you.

[Damaris]

Mad at a man? A man definitely brought that and threw that on the court. That's a man thing. A woman did not do that. A man did that. That is man. That's a man type of joke.

[Rory]

Now, Damaris, when a video come out of a woman hurling that on the court, I want you to have that same energy.

[Damaris]

A woman, you really listen. I'm not saying it's impossible. What I'm saying is more likely who do you think finds definitely and I.

[Maal]

Think are women, if they identify as it. But a woman did that.

[Damaris]

That is white boy humor. Throwing a dildo on the court of a WNBA game. That is white boy humor.

[Maal]

That's humor.

[Damaris]

That's not. Not throwing no strap. Like using a strap, bro. I know how expensive good straps are. They not just throwing out the D dildo, bro. And it's lime green. That's white boy humor, bro. She not even skin color.

[Maal]

That's wild color.

[Damaris]

Like, that's white boy humor, bro. Like, we know who did that.

[Maal]

They threw mal shoe on the court.

[Damaris]

Like a 20 year old frat boy did that.

[Rory]

I just think that it's, you know.

[Maal]

The w. I've been in the sex store. I've never seen a. A lime green dildo like that.

[Rory]

Now, did the WNBA release a statement in regards to this?

[Maal]

All right, how would the statement go?

[Damaris]

P.E.

[Rory]

That'S what I'm asking. I don't. I don't know how it would go. I'm. I just want to know.

[Maal]

Right. You know what? Let's go back to our chat GBT segment.

[Rory]

In hockey, they throw the hats on the ice like it's for Hatrick for a hat trick.

[Maal]

Okay, someone get a double double or like peach.

[Rory]

Look how peach trying to tie somebody in. In hockey, they throw the hats on the. On the ice for a hattick. What move did somebody do for them to be like, yo, yes, it's dildo time. Tie game. He take the strap over.

[Maal]

If it was a. A double sided dildo, I would think a double, double, double. But I don't. Yeah, yeah, like that I'm not sure. With just a regular.

[Rory]

What's this, Damaris? What is the significance in throwing a dildo?

[Damaris]

How the.

[Rory]

You've used dildos before.

[Damaris]

This is your coach.

[Rory]

She's mad at me because this is her coach. Yeah. This is your culture, Damaris. You used the dildo before. What is the. Is there any significance.

[Damaris]

I've never told you that.

[Rory]

That. Is there any significance in.

[Damaris]

No, there's no. Never been done before. So I've never.

[Rory]

So we're. So we're. So we're in new territory story with this thing. Okay.

[Damaris]

That's why I said that.

[Rory]

That I would just. I'm listening. We're learning. We're learning together. I'm just trying to learn also.

[Damaris]

Nevermind. Let's. We. We get our jokes off. So let's get our jokes off also.

[Rory]

What? No, go ahead.

[Damaris]

I think that that's mad disrespectful, but. Well, let's get our. Like, we're getting jokes off.

[Rory]

You think that's disrespectful, what they did? Throwing the dild on the court?

[Damaris]

Yes.

[Rory]

All right, but why do you think that's.

[Damaris]

Just because they wouldn't throw a dildo at a male basketball game. They did that. Like, because female basketball players are always, like, heralded as lesbian.

[Rory]

Like, that's heralded. Yo, I always heralded as lesbians.

[Maal]

Okay. This is. This is Chat gbt. This is not me. This is what the president of the WNBA would say as a statement for the dildo being thrown. While we appreciate the passion of our fans. That's not hilarious to anyone.

[Rory]

We appreciate the passion of our fans.

[Maal]

This is in regards to a dildo being thrown on onto the court.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Maal]

While we appreciate the passion of our fans, we. We ask that they show their support in ways that don't involve adult novelty items on the hardwood. The safety of our players and the integrity of the game comes first. And this isn't that kind of arena.

[Rory]

Well, I love this quote for some reason. It seems to be a tradition of sorts to throw dildos onto the field during Buffalo Bills games, as that's what happened at least three times since 2016. So we're missing out on this. Something. There's a tie in with dildos in sports. Clearly. See, because, see, the marriage to you, they threw a dildo on the football field. Okay, so your theory. We got you out of here. Smoked. Your theory gone. Yeah, they've been doing it. See, Buffalo Bills is like, yo, y' all late. We've been getting dildo stone on Our court. Y' all late to the dildo.

[Maal]

I actually think you're supporting her thoughts of this being some white boy.

[Rory]

No, no, I'm just saying. I'm just saying.

[Maal]

I'm just saying, you know, Rob Grousi's from Buffalo.

[Rory]

No, no, no. I'm just saying that she's saying because they wouldn't do that. If it was men, they wouldn't have threw that. Oh, and I'm saying they do that at Buffalo Bills game. So her theory of they wouldn't do it to men is debunked.

[Maal]

It's funny. At the wnba, I think it's wild gay that a bunch of straight men bought dildos to throw them at the Buffalo Bills game.

[Rory]

Me too.

[Maal]

That's some gay ass shit.

[Rory]

Me too. Maybe somebody in the crowd was attracted to one of the women on the WNBA floor. And he probably got his number on the end of the dildo and was like, you thinking it would land in front of her?

[Damaris]

And Dudos be heavy, too.

[Maal]

I was like, that would probably hurt.

[Damaris]

No, like, it ain't hitting nobody.

[Rory]

You asking me if a dildo will hurt?

[Maal]

I don't know.

[Rory]

You think I've held a dildo before?

[Maal]

No, I don't think so.

[Rory]

Okay, so why are you looking?

[Maal]

You're an adult that's lived for a while that understands like.

[Rory]

Wait, wait, wait. Hold on.

[Maal]

Say that again.

[Damaris]

You never picked one up to see what it would weigh.

[Rory]

Damaris, you think in my lifetime I've picked a dildo up before?

[Damaris]

Like, you've been to a sex toy store when a woman.

[Maal]

Yeah, but they're usually in the plastic.

[Rory]

No, hold on. Correct. Keep going.

[Damaris]

So you never was like, oh, damn. It's like this one. Like this big. Like, you never.

[Maal]

I've.

[Rory]

See. No, cuz Damaris be want me. She. She want me to get canceled. She want me to curse out on camera so she could try to take me to court. I'm not doing that. No, Damaris, I've never done that.

[Maal]

Do you think that Maul, when he went to the sex shop, was shopping for dildos with that woman?

[Damaris]

Oh, yeah, it is mall.

[Rory]

We just went to get. She wanted a fishnet by bodysuit.

[Damaris]

Oh, my God, y'.

[Rory]

All.

[Damaris]

Let me tell y' all how I tried this. A sexual enhancement pill. I should have saved this for Patreon, actually.

[Rory]

So what happened?

[Damaris]

Peach, please don't.

[Maal]

Wait, that's the ones your clip blew up like a.

[Rory]

Like a knuckle.

[Maal]

Wait, that's the ones that you insert in.

[Rory]

No, no, no, no.

[Maal]

Sorry. No, it's into your vagina.

[Damaris]

No, it's gummy. They're gummies. They're called Boner Bears.

[Rory]

All right, all right, all right, all right. Hold on. See, see, we know because if I came in here and landed on Boner Bears, y' all look at me like, Boner Bears is genius.

[Damaris]

I swear to God, they're.

[Maal]

They look like Gummy Bears.

[Rory]

Boner Bears are genius packaging. That's what. So the mar. What, you took a male enhancement pill?

[Damaris]

Well, I was at a sex toy shop, and we were. We were shopping for, like, the. Like, you know, like, the little coffee.

[Maal]

Go to the two bears laying on each other to the left. Josh. I love the right.

[Rory]

And.

[Maal]

And look at.

[Rory]

I love that. They. They're vegan. They specified that.

[Maal]

Yeah, no bears were hurt.

[Rory]

No bears were harmed in the making of Bear Boners.

[Damaris]

Boner Bears.

[Rory]

But yeah, Boner Bears.

[Damaris]

We were going to, like, find, like, the little couple card games that, like, you get to know each other and like that. And we saw.

[Rory]

Who are you with?

[Damaris]

Jesus.

[Rory]

Okay, okay.

[Damaris]

And we saw Honey Packs, and we were like. We were just talking, like, what is it? We were talking to the lady that works there. We were like, what does that really do? Like, those don't.

[Maal]

Jesus. Turn the Honey Packs into Boner Bear into wine.

[Rory]

Actually.

[Maal]

Jesus saw that honey. He walked on.

[Rory]

L. He slipped. Yo, look at what the marriage be doing when she not in the office. See, this is why I gotta start calling y' all on the weekend to see what the. Y' all be on, man. Like, Damaris is behind Boner Bears.

[Maal]

Like, what is she doing? What the. When we all go to SummerSlam on Saturday. Yo, bring the pack.

[Damaris]

No, that was. They were in.

[Maal]

I used all of them.

[Damaris]

They were not in my house, but.

[Rory]

All right, so you took a male enhancement. Boner Bear. Boner Boner Bear, yeah.

[Damaris]

You supposed to take, like, two or three of them.

[Rory]

Women. Men are not women.

[Damaris]

It doesn't. I. It doesn't matter. The girl. So the reason why we all.

[Rory]

So you took it. What happened?

[Damaris]

The reason why we grabbed that is because the girl at the counter, she was like, no, some of them do work. She said, here, I've taken these. You guys should try these ones.

[Rory]

Okay, so you took that. So what happened now?

[Damaris]

We had. We had a great night, but no, it's not nothing. They work. They make your. They increase your libido. It could have been a placebo effect, but they increase your libido. They make you even more hornier than usual and make you Be able to last longer. Horny wise. Like, the horny doesn't really subside, man.

[Maal]

They, they, they not Rose sparks.

[Rory]

Those might be Ro bears. We need some row bears.

[Maal]

Have you ever taken your girl's macaroo before?

[Rory]

I've taken macaroon. I don't know about a girl's macaroon.

[Damaris]

Yeah. Macaroo isn't just for women.

[Maal]

No, I know, but. No, that's the one.

[Rory]

Macaroon.

[Damaris]

Can'T take that.

[Rory]

You should. You should.

[Maal]

Oh, no, I know. It's incredible.

[Rory]

That should be part of your weekly routine for sure. Absolutely.

[Damaris]

I was looking at the mailman crazy off the macaroo when I was.

[Maal]

So when I was macaroo. It does it to both genders. I'm telling you, I'll be taking macaroo and getting out of nowhere. That is like the most natural.

[Rory]

Yeah, but look what baby D be doing, though. Like, y' all not. Y' all missing the wrong.

[Maal]

And macaroo get girls thick in the right ways. Yeah, well, thick however women want to be thick.

[Rory]

But that's just potatoes.

[Maal]

And so I thought. Damaris, you were talking about the. That you insert inside women's vaginas.

[Damaris]

God, no.

[Maal]

Because I did that one time seven years ago.

[Rory]

Four score seven years ago.

[Maal]

If they weren't doing, like, influencer packages. Because that. That's why we did it. She was an influencer in that world. And she was like, they sent me this product to try it. And I was like, well, let's try it. You know, because she had the same way when, you know, we put ads out, we have to try the product first.

[Damaris]

Yeah. When they send us autumn dildos and roses and I took them all.

[Maal]

Yeah. So I inserted that in her vagina in, like, the beginning of the day. We went about our day. We didn't make it till like 11am before. This was like tugging on my shirt to go, but look at you.

[Rory]

Come on.

[Maal]

No, no, that was not me. She wasn't. We had hung out mad times before that. I'm telling you, it was the product. I'm telling you, it was the product.

[Rory]

It wasn't.

[Maal]

I've never met a more horny woman in my life until. That was insane. Inserted in there. That went all the way to anal. And I was like, what are we doing here? Turned into a whole new human being.

[Rory]

Shout out to the bare bones out there.

[Maal]

Well, that wasn't. Wasn't bare boner.

[Rory]

Oh, okay. I'm sorry.

[Damaris]

Yeah, that should be.

[Maal]

I'm telling you, you shouldn't insert A gummy into a woman's vagina.

[Rory]

So, Damaris, we. We didn't find out exactly what happened.

[Damaris]

I'm just. It just makes you. It just makes you very warm. Feral.

[Rory]

Viral. Oh, I like that word.

[Damaris]

Vero and Pharaoh. Yeah, for real.

[Rory]

Made you very virile. You just couldn't wait, right? You started in the car like.

[Damaris]

Well, it was a 45 minute drive because it take you every. It takes you 45 minutes and you.

[Rory]

Was in there going crazy on yourself. Can you please.

[Damaris]

Anya, can you please relax?

[Rory]

Baby D was in traffic going crazy.

[Damaris]

Can you please. Can you please relax? Please, please.

[Maal]

No, he was telling you to relax.

[Rory]

I'm chilling. But I know you was in that car for 45 minutes. Off the bed boner. Nah, that. That foot definitely ended up on the. On the console. That leg ended up on the console. Baby D, we not doing that. I know exactly what type of time he was in traffic.

[Damaris]

Relax.

[Rory]

It's all good, though. You my. I ain't tripping. It's all good. Do we have any voicemails? You've got mail. This episode of Voicemails is sponsored by oost. Of course it is.

[Maal]

Whoever threw that dildo.

[Damaris]

Hey, y'. All. Just wanted to call and update you about the guy that I'm dating. Found out his son is and hands. First of all, let's set the record straight. And you know what?

[Maal]

Wait, wait, wait. Stop, stop, stop, stop, stop.

[Rory]

Ain't his.

[Maal]

Stop, stop, stop, stop. All right, slow down. Let's get a backstory to this entire thing. The guy called about this, right?

[Rory]

No, no, she did.

[Maal]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah, the piece of.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Maal]

All right, cool, cool.

[Rory]

So now the son ain't his. Remember I told you what did the son of his. Y like? Oh, no. Okay, so the.

[Maal]

And she wanted him to get over that and. All right, cool, cool, cool. Yeah, I remember she was an.

[Damaris]

Hey, y'.

[Rory]

All.

[Damaris]

Just wanted to call and update you about the guy that I'm dating. Found out his son isn't his. First of all, let's set the record straight. And you know what? This will pissed me off. I've called him before. Every time I call in mom agree with me. Rory got some to say. Rory, I said that I am trying to be supportive. And like the mayor said, I'm not showing him that I don't give a. It's not my fucking baby. I can only care so much, bro. Like, I get it. It's fucked up. I said it many times. It's fucked up. Anyway, okay, so I initiated A conversation with him. I really just only talked to him when he want to talk about it. But I initiated conversation just kind of asking about it because he was hanging out with his family and. And like, he just, you know, they was with the kids, and we know you had kids. You don't got no. You don't know what I gotta get. So he was. He said that he feels supported by me. And really my question was, was like, how long do I expect it to last? And I didn't even feel right asking him that. So that's why I asked y'. All. And y' all didn't give me no answer. But no. Like, he said he good, but I don't really feel like he good. For real. I'm not gonna lie. Like, I seem like he getting better. I will say that. But I just want to kind of, you know what I'm saying? I just want to know what. How to navigate that. Because I ain't never been in no situation like this, and I, like, feel with dude, like, I ain't going to lie. So. Trying to support this black man through this tough time, but damn.

[Rory]

Okay, so cuz, you didn't agree with her, and she was like, she's trying to talk directly to you.

[Maal]

Thank you for confirming what I said before. He should run for the hills.

[Damaris]

He should not.

[Rory]

No, she has.

[Damaris]

She's having normal feelings. She's having normal feelings. She said that? She doesn't express it to him.

[Rory]

She's trying to be supportive. She's trying to be supportive.

[Maal]

I'm sort of being addicted.

[Rory]

She's trying to be supportive. But she's like, yo, like, just.

[Maal]

Even when he was around other kids, them kids get away from that.

[Damaris]

What she said. What she was saying was, damn. Now you ain't the only one without it. Now you the only one without a kid. That's up. That's what she was saying.

[Maal]

She's having normal thoughts, and I'm glad she's not saying them to him, but I don't know if that's the person that he needs to be around. If she's thinking. Thinking that already. She's not wrong. Listen, if I was in that situation too, I'd be like, all right, thank. I mean, that'd be odd. But if. If a woman found out that that kid wasn't hers. But I'd probably be relieved, too. That'd be a weird reverse, but.

[Rory]

Yeah. How?

[Maal]

I don't know.

[Rory]

How does that woman know?

[Maal]

I don't know. I'm doing hypothetical.

[Rory]

How do you not know if this is your kid, did you birth this child or not? Yeah.

[Maal]

Hypothetical.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Maal]

I'd probably be relieved. Like, okay, I want to be this person. This is a little bit more helpful. Now we can, like, actually start a family ourselves and, you know, whatever. But if you. On that type of energy, what he's going through, if you care for him, I would leave him alone. I mean, your agenda right now is not the most important one. If somebody is going through that.

[Rory]

But she's being supportive. She's just like, yo, what's.

[Maal]

She hasn't explained how she. When we rapping this up, just being quiet.

[Damaris]

No, she said.

[Rory]

Well, you know, she's like, yo, she care about him. You know what I'm saying? She just like, yo, she. She sees that he is getting better, though. Like, his. He's starting to get over it. His feelings are. You know.

[Maal]

That's not what she said.

[Rory]

She said he. He. He's getting better. He looked like. He feel like he's getting. He's doing better with it.

[Maal]

That's how men cry in silence.

[Rory]

Yeah, but you don't know this man.

[Maal]

I know men, and we cry in silence.

[Rory]

Pause.

[Maal]

Oh, okay. All right. I see what. All right.

[Rory]

You crying in silence with other men.

[Damaris]

Well, just. Yo. Just.

[Maal]

We just. We all sit in a circle and.

[Rory]

Just go, no, everybody's crying in silence.

[Damaris]

Just keep being supportive to your man. Keep being. I don't blame you for your feelings. Just keep being supportive.

[Maal]

And eventually, how much she's supporting, though, honestly, get a.

[Damaris]

A baby. Like, if you really want him to get over it, give him a baby.

[Rory]

I mean. I mean.

[Damaris]

You could tell he a good dad already. He done proved that he a good dad. Get that. A baby. So he can stop talking about the last.

[Maal]

You're like one of those people. Like, when the dog gets ran over, it's like, let's just buy another. The same breed.

[Rory]

But this time we won't. We will adopt. We won't buy from a breeder.

[Maal]

We'll go to a less busy street.

[Rory]

Yeah, we'll adopt. We won't buy from a breeder. Yeah, no, I think that Damaris makes. That's a good point.

[Maal]

Give him a baby.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Maal]

No, Yeah, I think that's exactly what his broken heart needs right now.

[Rory]

I'm just saying he feels like. He seems like. He seems like he wants something is.

[Damaris]

To get up underneath something new.

[Rory]

Like, y' all love that.

[Maal]

No, no, don't.

[Rory]

Hold on, hold on, hold on. Rory, I got this. Y' all love that one. Why? That's Y' all like, y' all go to. That's.

[Damaris]

Y' all go to, too.

[Rory]

No, it ain't.

[Damaris]

Yes, it is.

[Rory]

No, it's not. We'd be. We'd be crying. We'd be up.

[Damaris]

Y' all be crying in another.

[Rory]

Yeah, I done cried in some before.

[Damaris]

Exactly.

[Maal]

That's. We cry in silence as men, but in.

[Rory]

Oh, it was out loud tears.

[Damaris]

Yeah, y' all cry, but y' all don't cry alone. I'm with another shoulder or titties, whichever. Which one.

[Maal]

But I'm just saying, as a man that just. I believe it was four years old, if I remember correct, when he found out.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Maal]

And I'm shocked. This is Damaris's thoughts at this point, because you said, how could you not think that's your child? No matter what, you have formed a bond. So you think a woman that had called into a podcast to say, yo, when's this guy going to get over this traumatic experience within two weeks should then give him a baby because he's going to be so trusting that that's his kid? Yeah. No, I think that's the best advice. Let's ruin this man's life even more.

[Damaris]

How is that? It won't ruin his life.

[Maal]

You think this man trusts if a pregnancy test pops up? You think this man is in the right state of mind to think that any pregnancy test would be true?

[Damaris]

But she knows he probably thought the.

[Maal]

Same thing about the other girl.

[Damaris]

But what I'm saying is he stayed.

[Maal]

There for four years.

[Damaris]

She will. It won't take five. Well, now he knows better. So he won't take four or five years to get a pregnancy test. He gonna test that baby at birth, and then it's his. And then he's happy, he's overjoyed, and he's cool. Is he still gonna miss the other baby? Yeah, but not as much.

[Maal]

I'm sure those doctor visits are going to be so pleasant for nine months when you don't know if it's your baby or not.

[Damaris]

I'm sure.

[Maal]

I'm sure that's going to be the greatest situation was prenatal experience that. Okay. I'm saying leave that man alone. He needs time.

[Rory]

Okay.

[Maal]

Don't get pregnant by.

[Rory]

Should we take her to the Zoom Zone? No, I think so.

[Damaris]

I feel like we already have the everything. All the information we need. I feel like Zoom.

[Maal]

No, it's not true. Because we don't know how she supports him. She just says, I support him. What's the.

[Damaris]

That means she says she listens to him.

[Rory]

Yo, they. They be thinking that's the support, don't they?

[Damaris]

So how.

[Maal]

The women are insane.

[Damaris]

You don't want me to give you an insane. You don't want me to listen to.

[Maal]

To you.

[Damaris]

What the do you want. What do you want in terms of support? Don't say mouth, Ma.

[Rory]

No, I don't want that. Well, it is helpful. That helps.

[Maal]

But it does, like, make things a little bit easier.

[Rory]

But I don't know if I want that. Not going to shy away from it, but I don't know if I want it.

[Maal]

How after you find out that your kid's not yours and you're with the other girl, how quickly would you accept.

[Rory]

That the kid is in mind not front.

[Maal]

Well, not because he had left his baby mother, but was still thought it was his kid. After that grief, like, how many hours into that, like, would you hours.

[Damaris]

How many hours after you.

[Rory]

I keep telling y', all, my, my, my. My emotions would lie more heavily on the fact that she was like, lying to me all this time.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Maal]

Yeah. So then I think the next step would be just impregnate another woman that you may not fully trust or.

[Rory]

No, no, I think he. I think he fully trusts his.

[Maal]

I think he should get the head. Don't get me wrong. Like, that helps.

[Rory]

Yeah, but I don't know. Like, no, I. I think that he should, you know, like, pull out for sure. Not have a baby right now, but maybe have the conversation about starting a family. Like, obviously, you know, not right now, but obviously you want. You. You. You're a great dad. I saw the way you handled, you know, your relationship with this four year old. You.

[Maal]

Nobody in this room or her cares about this man's feelings at all. Why you think that's the band aid? After four years of finding out.

[Rory]

I'm not saying let's redo it. I'm not saying that's the band aid. I'm just saying he obviously loves the idea of family and, and having a child. He loves that he.

[Maal]

Not anymore.

[Rory]

No, no, no, that doesn't mean he doesn't. No, that just.

[Maal]

He just.

[Rory]

That doesn't mean he doesn't love the idea of it. He just found out that the kid that he thought was his because of a woman he was dealing with, she was lying to him, is not his. He has a current girlfriend who loves him, who cares about him. Like, and through this, I think the conversation of. So you obviously are a great dad. I love the way you handled your relationship with this kid. I don't Know if they had the conversation, if he'll continue to have a relationship with the kid or not. I don't know if they've had that conversation. That's what I'm saying. We should have her in the zoom Zoom.

[Maal]

Imagine being a great dad to a child that you found out was not yours. But it doesn't mean you can't wait to go be a dad somewhere else.

[Damaris]

It doesn't mean. Mean that you're not. Yeah, because you see how much you enjoy being a dad. Like, it's not. Granted you're still mourning the kid, but it never means you never gonna want to have a kid again. Rory, like, I think you're being.

[Maal]

I'm not saying that. No, I'm being dramatic.

[Damaris]

Yeah, a little bit. Like you.

[Maal]

Like he had a child for four years and found out it wasn't his. I'm being dramatic.

[Damaris]

Yes, but I don't.

[Maal]

Give this man some time. You think just replacing with a new family.

[Rory]

You're making it seem like I'm saying get pregnant right now. I'm saying no. Have the conversation of eventually one day starting their own family if that's where they're at in their relationship. I don't know where their relationship is at.

[Maal]

Deep, deep therapy that he deserves, but.

[Rory]

What we all need.

[Maal]

Never gonna. Never gonna trust a woman for quite some time.

[Rory]

I agree.

[Maal]

As he should. And I'm not saying the woman that called in is untrustworthy.

[Rory]

No, no, I'm saying that.

[Maal]

I'm saying somebody that goes through that situation. Yeah.

[Rory]

It'd be very hard for them to trust again.

[Maal]

That's. Again, I'm not comparing dogs, babies, all that. But like, imagine watching your dog get ran over and someone taps you on the street shoulder and says, we could go to the breeder tonight. Like, I got. Wait, can I mourn watching my dog get run over?

[Damaris]

Hold on, hold on. Well, Rory, so yes, that is insensitive for you to say, hey, let's just go get another dog. Obviously your dog is not replaceable. Right? I. I would slap the out of somebody if they was. I buried my dog earlier. If they just said that to me, I'd have wild it out.

[Maal]

But let's just do a new family.

[Damaris]

At the same time time.

[Rory]

Let's do it again, but for real this time.

[Maal]

What does help?

[Rory]

That was practice.

[Maal]

Yeah. We could train this dog.

[Damaris]

What does help is getting another dog. It's not a replacement.

[Maal]

Give it some time.

[Damaris]

Yes, give it some time for.

[Rory]

No, for sure. But I'm saying have the conversation.

[Maal]

He said she said, he's clearly not over it yet. Give this man some time is all I'm saying.

[Rory]

We agreeing? I think we're all agreeing. We're all saying the same thing. We agree. We're just saying it seems like at some point they will have to have their own conversation about family if that's where they're at in their relationship. Which is why I said, I have more questions. I want to know, did he always feel like the baby wasn't his or just one random day, four years into it, he was like, you know what? I'm not too sure if this baby. Like, I have questions. I have questions that I wouldn't want to ask her.

[Maal]

Like, you know, I'm pro Zoom Zoom Room for almost all these things. I don't know if I want to play with somebody's life like this. I don't know if I want to. Even if she'd agreed to do Zoom Zoom Room, I don't know if I don't like that. That feels nasty.

[Rory]

No, I wasn't looking at it that heavy, but, yeah, now that you laid it on like that, I. Yeah.

[Damaris]

What the.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Maal]

No, we joked about when I was walking around with his daughter, his hand at the baseball field. We've done some Zoom Zoom rooms on Patreon, but I don't know, Like, I don't even know how I feel if somebody would call into a podcast, talk about kids, not mine, and get over it. And now we. Now she don't care camera. Like, I don't know. I'm sure that's a. Like, I think we. I think that we're. We're entering, like, some different territory.

[Damaris]

I feel like he would feel some type of way if he heard this voicemail. So the Zoom Zoom Room ain't that.

[Rory]

Big of a deal.

[Damaris]

He would feel some type of way if he heard this voicemail. The first voice note.

[Maal]

That's a conversation. If you get on camera and talk about as my girlfriend now and telling the world that I don't have baby not mine.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Maal]

And to get over it. No, I think we entering. And you can keep all this. Don't.

[Damaris]

I mean, but we're here for the concept. I don't give a. About their lives. That's on her if she want to.

[Rory]

Yeah. So I'm about to get into, like, I don't give a. About real lives. I don't care about their home being upside down. Do the interview.

[Damaris]

If you want to come out here and snitch.

[Rory]

You going, she going to buy crack from somewhere Might as well get it from me.

[Maal]

It was.

[Rory]

My bad. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

[Maal]

Muscle uies made in Harlem.

[Rory]

Yeah. Ain't no Uzis made in Harlem. My bad. Muscle memory. My bad. I was in another place. I'm sorry.

[Maal]

I mean, that is a fact, though. At some point, if I don't sell crack, somebody's still gonna buy crack. Don't get it. I get it. I don't know, I just think.

[Rory]

No, but I feel you, though. We ain't got to listen. We ain't got to put on.

[Maal]

Finding Jack Harlo in somebody's DMS on stage is hilarious to me. This one's just like.

[Rory]

Cuz it's real. Whoa. It's real. It's real. Somebody's really hurt and going through something. So, yeah.

[Maal]

With that said, bills to pay how we started the episode. If you would like to come on here, you're more than welcome to come.

[Rory]

No, no, no. We ain't gonna do it. We ain't gonna do it. I'm with you on that. We're not gonna do it. But I do have more questions, though.

[Maal]

So, you know, keep calling him. We'll keep it anonymous.

[Rory]

And I want to know how long into it, did he feel like the baby wasn't his? Did he always feel like the baby wasn't his? Or did. Was it just a random. Just like, let me go get a, you know, a DNA test or whatever, just to swab and stuff, See, like, was it random or was it like something he always felt in looking at the child? Like he always felt like this wasn't his child. Like, I want to know how y' all got to discovering that he wasn't the father. Like, was it a random test or was it something he had been thinking about for. For a while? That's all.

[Maal]

You'd still raise the baby, so it's all right.

[Rory]

Yeah, not a stepdad. I just stepped up. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, there you go.

[Maal]

Difference between the dad and a father.

[Rory]

Come on, man. It wasn't there.

[Maal]

I've always hated that. All right, well, then tell me the difference. No, the English language just made two words for the same thing. Like, there's a dad, there's a father. All right, well, tell me the difference then.

[Rory]

And where is he?

[Maal]

Like, I've never gotten a clear definition, not even Webster. No one can tell me a clear definition. But this was fun, man. Yeah. SummerSlam.

[Rory]

SummerSlam this weekend, shout out to the champ, Jade.

[Maal]

Yes. And if you're listening to this we are about to also. If you made it to the end of the of the episode, you will also get an episode with Jade.

[Rory]

This is like when the event ends when the credits roll and then like Wolverine is sitting at the bar. Yeah, yeah.

[Maal]

People stay in the seats. Yeah.

[Rory]

We have Jay Carter, the champion coming up right now.

[Maal]

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