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Malcolm
The volume. No warrior now.
Rory Farrell
All right, first of all, Mo. I know. I know you put your other phone away and shit. Why did I come out the bathroom and p. Just playing the new Kia record, which sounded fine. I asked. Not bad, yo. I asked, who is that? And he was like, yo, that's Keya neck. Like, my neck and my back.
Malcolm
Yeah, that's not. It's not bad. She don't sound bad, man.
Rory Farrell
No, it sounds fine.
Malcolm
But, yeah, video's a little cheesy, but, you know, that's okay.
Rory Farrell
Wait, there's a video?
Malcolm
Oh, yeah. That's what we was watching.
Rory Farrell
The video is her. Her neck and her back in there.
Malcolm
Her neck and her back are fine. Yeah, her neck and her neck and her back are great. But she doesn't say, well, I respect.
Rory Farrell
Any artist coming back to try to make some music. And she looks. She had a certified hit. But, yeah, she looked great. My neck, my back.
Malcolm
Yeah. You know, I mean, sometimes you just.
Rory Farrell
All right, so listen, man, hold on. How many seconds in are we? All right, we're in enough. She was definitely ahead of. Of the ass eating wave, if we're getting down to it.
Malcolm
What do you mean she was ahead of the wave?
Rory Farrell
I feel like it became, like, okay to publicly say you ate ass. I don't know, maybe like, 2012. It was okay to. Because even before that, like, when I was growing up, especially around West Indian people, eating pussy was, like, forbidden. That was like bati boy shit. Which is still the funniest thing in the world. How is it gay to eat pussy?
Malcolm
But, yo, we're not even two minutes in yet, bro. Like, are you okay?
Rory Farrell
How many times I have to tell y'? All, I'm not okay? We not even think. I had to keep not okay. But that just sparked a thought in my head that, like, she was, like, kind of the trailblazer for eating.
Malcolm
Yeah, the song was very raunchy because.
Rory Farrell
Even at that point, like, eating was a little taboo to tell everybody that.
Malcolm
Right? But are you okay?
Rory Farrell
I was trying to give her, like, her flowers.
Malcolm
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Rory Farrell
You was eating crack at that time?
Malcolm
2012? Yeah.
Rory Farrell
No, no, no. When did my neck and my back came out? In, like, 2003. Two.
Malcolm
Yeah. Yeah, I was early. I don't think I'm a pioneer.
Rory Farrell
2001. I definitely. I had not.
Malcolm
No, you was. Yeah, he was. You wasn't even outside yet.
Rory Farrell
Like, That I had, like, I had kissed a girl in 2001.
Malcolm
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. You was getting your feet wet. Just jumped off the porch.
Rory Farrell
But, like, yo, when 2004 hit was going crazy. Couldn't even stop the girl.
Malcolm
Yeah, yeah, I hear you.
Rory Farrell
Well, actually, no, you could stop me. Never mind if it was consent, like, no, you could stop me today.
Malcolm
We are here, but Damaris is not with us today. She has a day off.
Rory Farrell
Yes.
Malcolm
So it's just the He Man Woman's Hater club today. Yes.
Rory Farrell
It's time to.
Malcolm
Yes.
Rory Farrell
That's why we started out with eating that we hate Women Haters club.
Malcolm
Yeah.
Rory Farrell
Yeah. And sorry to kill all the YouTube conspiracy reaction pages. It's just a day off. But I enjoy that because now we can actually be who we are and just disrespect women the way we want to. You know, talk about them. Like objects.
Malcolm
Yes. Hopefully she's somewhere in the kitchen.
Rory Farrell
Right.
Malcolm
Where she's supposed to be.
Rory Farrell
I, like, I don't even think she deserved to work. I think she should just be home sewing and kitchen, making food.
Malcolm
Make my shoes, you know? I mean, make you some shoes from scratch.
Rory Farrell
Would you rather be a housewife?
Malcolm
No.
Rory Farrell
Why not?
Malcolm
Because I just wouldn't rather be a housewife.
Rory Farrell
Okay.
Malcolm
As opposed to what I do now.
Rory Farrell
Yeah. Like, if roles were reversed in that way, in the world without testosterone, like, would you mind just, like, running around with a bunch of kids and.
Malcolm
I wouldn't mind it, but not every day. I don't think I could do that every day. I would. I would get super bored. I get bored with routine, like, easily, a lot. Yeah. The housewife thing, I mean, you know, being home with the kids, taking care of the kids. You know, wife might be, you know, sick or whatever. She has to go out of town. You got to stay with the kids. Like, it's cool for a couple days, but for that to be my every day.
Rory Farrell
Yeah.
Malcolm
I don't know if I could do that every day.
Rory Farrell
Yeah. I don't know. I mean. But I guess it could be cool if you have some money, because you could have a nanny while you're staying at home.
Malcolm
Mom, money fixes everything.
Rory Farrell
Open the shard.
Malcolm
Money, money. Money buys convenience. Money buys, you know, just politics to be able to do other things like that. Of course, that fixes everything, but you still want to have, you know, your time alone with the family and the kids. Like, you don't want the nanny every day. You know what I mean?
Rory Farrell
Yeah. My cousin had a living Nanny at one point, and I thought it was the weirdest thing. And then I had kids and I was like, I totally get it.
Malcolm
Yeah, no, it's a. It's a real thing. Nannies are there to help. Especially when you have a great nanny, like, you know, that comes and she'll cook breakfast for everybody. And you know that type of nanny, like, it's convenient. It makes things convenient.
Rory Farrell
Children about vibes, cartel.
Malcolm
Yeah, yeah, yeah. You need a. You need a good nanny that. A cultured. Cultured nanny. Get. Get a cultured nanny. Don't just get any nanny. Get a nanny with some culture.
Rory Farrell
I worked in Tribeca when I was at Havas, and just walking outside during lunch to watch, like, all the West Indian nannies with white kids was like, by far the funniest thing in the world.
Malcolm
Like, is it not a documentary on that yet? I feel like that needs to be a doc.
Rory Farrell
I'm sure it'll come eventually.
Malcolm
It has to be a documentary.
Rory Farrell
Once those kids start fucking.
Malcolm
The amount of tony West Indian mothers I see on Madison Avenue, like, like, coming out of, like, the mansion, I'm like, yo, that's not your kids.
Rory Farrell
Like, once it gets started, like, do a little dusty wine, it's over.
Malcolm
Yeah, we need a. We need a West Indian nanny documentary. Like, tell us about how you raised the guy that is now the CEO of a Fortune 500 company.
Rory Farrell
Like, is that a specific New York thing? Like, nanny wise? I'm sure. I'm sure. Like, in California, it's probably more like Spanish nannies, right? Or Haitian.
Malcolm
Well, yeah, I can see that.
Rory Farrell
California again. I'm. It's definitely stereotyping.
Malcolm
Yeah. But it's definitely, you know, just depending on the culture that's in that city. Absolutely.
Rory Farrell
But you could say, like, that's not a black. That's a West Indian.
Malcolm
It's a difference. There's a difference.
Rory Farrell
And what do you think? Like, they're giving the child at lunch?
Malcolm
Kalaloo.
Rory Farrell
Giving a kid.
Malcolm
I sun peas. Because there's a difference between rice and peas and peas and rice.
Rory Farrell
That's a fact.
Malcolm
People don't know the difference.
Rory Farrell
That is a fact.
Malcolm
There's a difference.
Rory Farrell
But even, like, I feel like Guyanese curry would be crazy for a child. I think a child could handle, like, Jamaican.
Malcolm
You're in a white kid that lives on Madison Hudson. Guyanese curry for lunch. By the time dad comes back from his murder trial that he's working the kids in the bathroom asshole on fire.
Rory Farrell
Just even the aki of like, oh, is this Eggs? Nah, that's. That's a fruit.
Malcolm
Yeah, yeah, yeah. There has to be a doc. We need a West Indian nanny. Doc.
Rory Farrell
Where are all the rich kids from? Tribal.
Malcolm
Because I know so many of them have raised so many of these CEOs that are now out here at these companies. Like, they. We don't talk about that enough.
Rory Farrell
For sure. I mean, even like Succession, which was one of my favorite shows, I kind of wish they added that element into the show. That could have been a whole different storyline.
Malcolm
Yeah.
Rory Farrell
That the West Indian nanny was raising all these people's kids.
Malcolm
Imagine the things the West Indian nanny has seen. All the secrets she knows.
Rory Farrell
Oh, yeah.
Malcolm
But shit, when they go back home, when they take that barrel of clothes back to the island to give everybody, you know, they telling all them stories down there.
Rory Farrell
But even, like, that's why they're the best nannies, because it's in a middle aged West Indian woman's nature to hold it down.
Malcolm
Oh, yeah, she's. Yeah.
Rory Farrell
You think the shit in Tribeca is crazy, that she's saying she's seen some shit on a farm in Guyana that she will never talk about?
Malcolm
That's a fact. Absolutely.
Rory Farrell
She don't care about you doing lines.
Malcolm
Yeah, we need it. Let's get that doc soon, man. Please. Somebody put it together. New York. Let's start with the New York West Indian nannies first. Let's start there. And then we can treat it like baddies. We can go to different countries, different cities. You know, I got baddies do nannies.
Rory Farrell
Or like, it could be like a fun experiment to flip it. Like if we took a bunch of middle aged white women and put them in Ghana or Nigeria and they have to be nannies.
Malcolm
Oh, no, that's. That's.
Rory Farrell
I mean, the amount of wealth that's in Nigeria, like, it could be. It's the same thing as Tribeca, if you get down to it.
Malcolm
Absolutely.
Rory Farrell
That could be fucking. Just a bunch of middle America white women being nannies for. For Nigerian royalty.
Malcolm
Zeus, get on it. We need it.
Rory Farrell
We need a nanny. Natalie Nun is going to be the one to get that.
Malcolm
Not maybe not her, but on the network. We need. We need nannies on. On Zeus.
Rory Farrell
Yeah, Definitely a Tyler Perry movie that came and went. He got money.
Malcolm
What?
Rory Farrell
Tyler Perry's case.
Malcolm
No, it wasn't the case though, was it? It was just. He was being. It wasn't a case. Like, he didn't go to court yet. I think it was just like he was being sued.
Rory Farrell
Yeah, but I mean, one of the biggest Directors and film owners of our generation.
Malcolm
No, I don't think it went away.
Rory Farrell
We just have those text messages leaked and then nobody talks about it after the day.
Malcolm
Well, then after that he did. Like I saw him doing a roundtable discussion. Was him Jeezy Kirk Franklin. Wait, you didn't see that? You want to see that? Yeah.
Rory Farrell
That was not just here. There's no way.
Malcolm
Yeah, it was like. It was like Tyler Perry, Young, Jeezy Kirk Franklin I saw sitting at the table, simulation. Like, this is like. I'm telling you, it was like a real thing. I don't know what it was, but I saw the clip and I was like, this is an interesting group.
Rory Farrell
And he was talking about his freaky ass text message.
Malcolm
Den of Kings is what it's called. Okay, yeah, Den of Kings.
Rory Farrell
And this happened like recently?
Malcolm
Recently, yeah, this is. I think so. Or the clips were recent. When was this posted, Josh? This was on three weeks ago. See? Yeah, listen, man, let's sit around, let's talk about it.
Rory Farrell
Let's talk about. Did they start the show Accountability?
Malcolm
Let's talk about. You know what I'm saying? Look at that. Let's learn how to cook. Listen, that's what you do after text messages come out.
Rory Farrell
Gotta wear all white with pearls.
Malcolm
For sure. Yeah, you gotta have a Gucci. Gotta have a Gucci tracksuit on, you.
Rory Farrell
Know, and you check in every box. Former alleged coke dealer now turned his life around, got the church there.
Malcolm
If anybody knows how to cook, it's Jeezy, I can assure you that.
Rory Farrell
I mean, what do you think? Ingredients that he uses for most of his business?
Malcolm
I mean, it's gotta be a lot of. Lot of bacon soda. It's gotta be. He's, he's, he's heavy on the baking soda. He's a baking soda type of guy.
Rory Farrell
What do you cook with baking soda?
Malcolm
I mean, it depends the base. You need the base. You need a good crust. You know what I'm saying? You need something that's going to lock up, you know, baking soda's gonna help it rise if you're baking. Yeah, you know, pastries is his expert expertise. I'm guessing, I'm guessing. I'm guessing pastries.
Rory Farrell
Nobody finds that odd that, like, people were smoking things. That takes the smell out of your fridge? No, I mean, we drink Coca Cola, so yeah, that takes stains out of cars, so.
Malcolm
Yeah, but you need. Baking soda is actually really good for you in general, though.
Rory Farrell
I mean, it's the best cleaning product in my opinion.
Malcolm
Yeah, baking soda is great. For you. You need that.
Rory Farrell
How did I skip over this, though? Yeah.
Malcolm
Den of Kings. I don't know. I didn't watch it.
Rory Farrell
I saw Shout out to all these successful men.
Malcolm
Yeah. But I think. I don't know if this was shot before the text messages of Tyler Perry were released or after, but yeah, I saw this clip floating around. I didn't sit down and watch the entire episode, but I just thought it was an interesting. I'm not sure who the other gentlemen are, but seeing Kirk Franklin. Jeez. And Tyler Perry in a kitchen, that's something that I feel like I should watch always.
Rory Farrell
Just have to go back to God.
Malcolm
Yeah.
Rory Farrell
Every time you get into some.
Malcolm
That's a fact.
Rory Farrell
What do you think Jeezy thought in his head if this happened after the text messages?
Malcolm
What am I doing here? Why me? Why now, Ty?
Rory Farrell
What were you doing?
Malcolm
Yeah, why am I here right now? Yeah, but I don't know if that case is going to has any real legs, though.
Rory Farrell
Oh. I. I don't know what's true and what's not. I'm not here to say that he's guilty of anything. I just think they were funny text messages.
Malcolm
Yeah, no, very funny. Very funny.
Rory Farrell
Like, hilarious, actually.
Malcolm
Yeah.
Rory Farrell
And you're a very creative person if you just make those text messages up. But we're even more sick in the head if you can concoct a fake text messages like that.
Malcolm
Yeah, no, I think it's real text messages, but I don't know if there was any crime, you know, I mean.
Rory Farrell
What do you think? If you had, like, the talent that Peach has where you can Photoshop anything, how do you think that would change, like, your personal life?
Malcolm
Like, oh, the need.
Rory Farrell
The need to, like, lie in situations would, for some reason be very high to me. Where I could, like, doctor a text or something.
Malcolm
Yeah.
Rory Farrell
But I. I wouldn't do that. But it's just to have the ability.
Malcolm
That Peach just know that you can do it.
Rory Farrell
Yeah. Like, to manipulate a situation when your back is against the wall. I feel like Photoshop would be the greatest tool ever.
Malcolm
Yeah. But you'd only. You would only need that if. Because if she gets your phone, I don't care how well you.
Rory Farrell
It's over at that point.
Malcolm
It's over. But like, if she's just assuming or, you know, she thinks that you're texting somebody, you can be like, you know, send some screenshots, like, yo, look, I don't even mean like, we. I don't talk to this person. It's nothing. There like, it's just regular conversation or. But if she has your phone, it's over. It's not. I don't care how great you are at Photoshop, it's over.
Rory Farrell
I feel like my need with that would be very light where it was like, yo, I called you. And then I would just like, add the number into a screenshot. It wouldn't be, like, crazy.
Malcolm
I did call you back.
Rory Farrell
Like, yo, I called you back. Like, look right here at the time.
Malcolm
Yeah, I don't have it on my end. What do you mean? Like, here's. Yeah, look.
Rory Farrell
That's as far as I would call you twice.
Malcolm
You got to put two. I called you twice.
Rory Farrell
Now I have to ask Peach what type of diabolical Photoshop he's done with his craft.
Malcolm
He's definitely done some crazy fish. I know for sure PJ gonna tell us, but he definitely did some crazy shit with Photoshop. 100%.
Rory Farrell
I would. I would definitely consensually make my dick way bigger on a dick pic.
Malcolm
So we got new music.
Rory Farrell
I'm just trying to make you uncomfortable. Music.
Malcolm
Some new music. New music dropped Friday. While I am happy that we get new music and we get a lot of good new music. Right. I do think that it's bad that we get this much new music.
Rory Farrell
Why? It was three albums as far as, like, bigger artists.
Malcolm
Yeah. But I feel like we just got the Clips album a couple weeks ago.
Rory Farrell
Alfredo too.
Malcolm
We just got Alfredo 2 a few weeks ago. And now we have J I D album, we have Gunna's album, we have Bryson Tiller's album to name a few. I'm sure some other projects dropped, but, like, when do we have the time to really, like, listen to all of this? Because we spent so much time. Was having a conversation with. With my boy the other day and we've lost. We've. In the conversation, we were talking about how we've lost the connection to music like this. This times now where I could love somebody's album and I don't even remember the lyrics to the raps before. If I love the pro. Like, this album is crazy. I could recite every song because I felt like there was a different connection to it versus now we do everything on our phone. If I'm listening to music on my phone and then I get a text message or I get a call or somebody sends me a clip and I gotta watch this clip, it's like you're being pulled away from what I'm really like. I'm listening to music on my phone. So now if I got all these other things happening, there's like this connect. Like, I hear the music, I hear it like I'm listening to the album, but there's no, like, the connection or the order. Like, there's something. There's a. There's like a wall in between us and really connecting to the music, it feels like.
Rory Farrell
But I don't think it's a music thing per se. I just think it's an entertainment thing.
Malcolm
Well, put it up to that as well.
Rory Farrell
Music is just folded into that because, I mean, even the way we binge shows, like, imagine if a season of the Sopranos was available one day, not spread out amongst 14 weeks where you watched an episode, you talked about it with your friends for the whole week, you made predictions, you did all that. Like, you can just binge things immediately. And then on top of that, you have every bit of content in your phone on social media, whether it be TikTok. IG, like, music is going to fold to the wayside in that regard. And it's.
Malcolm
So.
Rory Farrell
It's so much easier to make music now.
Malcolm
It's easier to make it. It's easy to put it out.
Rory Farrell
So in that regard, you have. And we'll get to the Bryson thing, but you can put a double album out. But the contradiction there is. I feel like no one has the attention span for it, so it's easier to put it out. But you're putting it out to consumers that don't have the time or attention span to listen to that amount. So, yeah, everyone's in that regard. Like, imagine work. Imagine working on a Netflix series for three years and somebody binges it in one rainy Saturday and then says, yo, where, yo, where's season two?
Malcolm
Yeah.
Rory Farrell
I spent my life into this.
Malcolm
Yeah.
Rory Farrell
Yeah. It's access to everything. And even when I'm watching something I'm engaged with, I'll look at my phone and start scrolling through. I'll see that.
Malcolm
Right.
Rory Farrell
And I get distracted. The music is the same way. Like, it's very low on the totem pole if you're not, like, a real lover of music. But even if even the songs are too hot.
Malcolm
I loved. I love. I love the technology now because, again, literally, I could pull up any song. I could be thinking about a record.
Rory Farrell
Yeah.
Malcolm
And type it in and pull it up and listen to it. So I love.
Rory Farrell
You can start saying the lyrics of Sirius.
Malcolm
I love that aspect of it. But there is a difference in the way I connect to music now than I used to. Like, when I Had to literally buy physical music or, you know, CD album. There was, like, a different. Even if I didn't like it.
Rory Farrell
Because you could only carry so much with you. Like.
Malcolm
Right.
Rory Farrell
Because I used to carry the big CD booklet. But even then, like, I would keep one CD in my.
Malcolm
This is what I'm saying. I think it's too much now. Like, we just. I'm still listening to Alfredo, too. And now I got Jake J's album. Now I got, you know, Bryce's out. It's like, bro, I'm still. I haven't really even, you know, really digested all the bars in Alfredo 2 yet. And already now JID is on. On my phone.
Rory Farrell
Okay, all right. I hear you. And again, I'm not trying to be devil's advocate here. Ironically, on September 11th, when Blueprint and Fabs first album came out, like, people used to drop on the same day. Graduation Curtis. Like, that would happen often where people would drop on the same day.
Malcolm
No. Right. But tell me, what came out three weeks before those albums?
Rory Farrell
Oh, I see. Yeah. I don't know.
Malcolm
You get what I'm saying? Like, that's the difference. It's like, okay, we get Alfredo two, two weeks ago or a week ago. And then now, this week, Jid, next week, Chance the Rapper. It's like. It's like, if I'm on a phone call having a good conversation with somebody, and somebody calls in, I'm like, hold on. How rare. How. How often do I go back to that other call? But that's if it's another good comment. Like, my homie calls. I'm like, yo, I'm downtown, yo. It's crazy. It's lit. I just saw. So I forgot I got homie on hold now. So now it's like, when do you. When do you have an opportunity to really. Or it's a shorter window to connect to the music now, I think.
Rory Farrell
And I mean, I'm not saying this about you whatsoever. I'm just saying the consumer. I feel like a lot of the consumers listen to, react as quick as they can rather than live with the music and then move on to the next thing that they can react to.
Malcolm
So, as an artist, how do you. How do you navigate through that?
Rory Farrell
That's.
Malcolm
Do you take two years to create and then for somebody in three hours to be like, yo, this trash?
Rory Farrell
Yeah, that's out of. At that point, that's out of your control. That's where finding the right consumer in the right tribe and the right core fan base matters the most, which is which will get to JD Shit. I don't think he tried to chase anything at all, but his core fan base on this project. Myself being one. And I think that was the smartest thing ever. Like, you try to. I get it. You got to grow and get more fans the best way possible. Shit we go through with podcasts and two down to how we title certain YouTube shit. But at the end of the day, it's still the core that's really going to matter and return. And that's the only people you really should feed. That's the strategy. That's the only strategy that you could have control of. Feeding your core and your tribe. Along the way. Maybe you'll get some more people. But do you think Freddie and Al was sitting there of like, yo, we got to get as many people as possible to go back to listen to Alfredo 1. After listening. No, let's. Let's keep our formula and grow our formula. That's what's going to move any type of vinyls, move actual real ticket sales. That's the only thing that matters at this point if you're in that space. And Jid is. Is a big artist. Like, he has a Eminem feature that we were completely wrong about. I feel like we deserve some credit because I think he added it back to the album because of us.
Malcolm
Well, no, you came in here with information that you heard or you received from somewhere.
Rory Farrell
It was on an ep. I didn't know it was gonna be on. No, that was an old Rick Ross move.
Malcolm
No, but I ain't gonna lie. Like, that would have been insane if you don't put.
Rory Farrell
He said when all that came out, that this was not on the album.
Malcolm
Oh, he did say that when he posted the ep.
Rory Farrell
If I'm correct me, if I'm wrong, fans, you can kill me in the dm, when he was tweeting, she was like, yo, I want to put out some before my project. Like, this is. This is the EP before the album.
Malcolm
Okay.
Rory Farrell
Like this. This didn't have a place on my album.
Malcolm
Okay.
Rory Farrell
But again, I mean, it's an Eminem feature, so it should stay there. And I wasn't too mad at it in the sequencing. It's not really a song for me. Oh, yeah. The prelux is strictly to get people talking, intrigued, excited about the album. That's all. Yeah. How I interpreted it, which is, you know, obviously I was wrong. I interpreted that along with everyone else, that this was like your pre. EP shit.
Malcolm
The prelux is strictly to get people talking, intrigued, excited about the Album, Great, great strategy.
Rory Farrell
But would you not read that?
Malcolm
So there's another inverse on the main album. Nope. I got two of the best fast rappers of all time.
Rory Farrell
I think he was alluding to himself in there, but I mean, either way, yeah. To close your point in that regard, I think just feeding your core is the only way. Because the average consumer is just going to move on and swipe up to the next 15 second reel. Okay. Like music, even when they've chopped it down to 2:30 as far as songs go, that's still hard to keep people's attention. Like you have movie studios trying to figure out how can we capture somebody in 10 seconds and they're putting out films that are four hours.
Malcolm
Right.
Rory Farrell
We're with a microwave brain. Like, that's just how things go. So it is kind of on you as the consumer to get out of that way. Because, yes, I'm more attached to some of the music I grew up on, but I also had a different mind state and was in a different environment at that time and how I even consume things. So as a music lover, as a consumer, sometimes I have to like discipline myself and be like, yo, don't look at your phone, sit and just live with this music. Because I know that's where your heart really is with this shit and like how you feel better and everything.
Malcolm
I guess for me that's just different though, because I used to. I used to literally, when the album come out, you know, or artists I like, drops a project, I burn that project to the ground because I need to, I need to hear it, I need to live with it, I need to move around with it just to see if I like it, love it, hate it. Now it's like I'm in the mix of still trying to figure out if I love this project or not. And then now, this week, I got another artist that I like. He's dropping his album. I gotta listen to this now. It's just, it's like, it seems like you can't. I can't listen to everything fairly.
Rory Farrell
But we also got older. Like, you also have to add that factor.
Malcolm
Well, then that's another thing. Life happens. I got things to do now. I can't just be listening to the music movie. So all of these things happen. But just the cadence of the way we receive music though, I think is just like. It just feels very like. It's almost like a conveyor belt. And you know, I'm. I'm seeing a product come down. Oh, I like this. And by the time I'M looking at this. Three more is going underneath the. And I'm like, oh, like, let me listen to it. It just feel like you're always playing catch up when it comes to your favorite music.
Rory Farrell
But I mean, I'll even say, like, I have not listened to the Gunna album yet, but I. I'm very not.
Malcolm
Because you don't like Gunna.
Rory Farrell
No.
Malcolm
You just haven't had the opportunity to hear with that.
Rory Farrell
Yeah. With that said, outside of. I mean, we have chance on the podcast this coming week and I had to listen to that album. Plus Jid and Bryson Tiller. Three artists that I really like Gunna. I like Gunna, don't get me wrong. But I've admitted, like, I'm not gonna move my life around for a Gunna album. It would strictly be for the podcast.
Malcolm
Yeah.
Rory Farrell
Which to me also feels a little gross. Cause like, why should I be the one even reviewing? Like, I feel like that's fucked up to Gunna.
Malcolm
Yeah.
Rory Farrell
Like with him. Not that we have the biggest media platform, but, you know, people do listen to us. I'm not the one for this. Like, I like a Gunner song every now and then. I'm. I'm not going to sit there and do a deep dive on Gun.
Malcolm
Right.
Rory Farrell
And that's nothing negative about him.
Malcolm
Right.
Rory Farrell
It's my taste.
Malcolm
Yeah.
Rory Farrell
I'm sure Gunna would look at some of the music I listen to and be like, dog you, that's whack. That's just, I don't know, turn that.
Malcolm
Off and listen to my brother.
Rory Farrell
Like, that's just how life goes. So you also have to take that into consideration. I'm not. Never in my life, even when I would be completely free and have nothing to do, would I run to go dissect a Gun album.
Malcolm
Yeah.
Rory Farrell
So add that into. And I think a lot of people feel that way with how much music is out there. I love that streaming allows you to not have to sit with the radio and the mainstream you're just forced to listen to. When I get in the car, I don't have to listen to what the radio is programming. But you're also going to not listen to other shit because of that. Even if GUN is the biggest shit moving.
Malcolm
I can't believe I'm not going to.
Rory Farrell
Sit there and listen to a Gun album all the time.
Malcolm
Like, and listen.
Rory Farrell
I'd be lying if I said that.
Malcolm
And listening to radio now. I can't believe I actually used to listen to the radio. Why?
Rory Farrell
I used to record the radio.
Malcolm
It's the same 12 songs from seven artists.
Rory Farrell
When was it?
Malcolm
Not that and over and. But that's what I'm saying. Now that you realize that now that I have the ability to listen to whatever I want, whenever I want, I can't really. I cannot believe that radio was such a big part of my life at one point. Because when you listen to it now, like, sometimes in commute, and I'll just listen to the radio. And then, like, example, the other day I went out, so I caught a Uber, went downtown, right? When I got out the car, a song was playing. Two hours later, I got back in an Uber, that same song was playing again. And I was like, bro, this is. So now I'm listening, because now I'm gonna say, okay, let me hear what's next. It almost got to a point where I know which song they get ready to play next. So I'm just like, we used to sit down in the crib, like, around the radio and listen.
Rory Farrell
Yeah.
Malcolm
And it's like, bro, it's the same songs, the same artists. And then I'm thinking, like, we know how programming works. We know that they have playlists at the radio and things like that. But my thing is, there's so many other songs and dope artists that you could easily be like, we don't have to listen to this song three times in an hour. Like, there's two other artists you could have put in that spot and played their new record.
Rory Farrell
I mean, I hear you, but in. Yes, this was programming working. But, like, you know, I remember taking the boombox to go play ball and just waiting for Country Grammar to play. Like, just waiting for it. And, yeah, it would play once an hour, but that was, like, a moment at that time. That's why it resonated more, because we only had access to that. Had I had the ability to just list before the album came out, had I had the ability to just listen to Country Grammar every five minutes, I probably would have moved the. On the fact that we sat around the radio waiting for that song, even if it played every hour, like, it made it resonate more. So that speaks, like. Even, like, when we would TRL106 in park, like Tara waiting for DMX party up video, like, run home so you could watch that again. If YouTube was really a thing, it wouldn't have been a moment with me and my friends of like, yo, what number you think? Yo, that part in this. Yo, I caught another thing in the video because you could only maybe see it once a day.
Malcolm
Can't Rewind it. This is before we had TiVo.
Rory Farrell
Yeah.
Malcolm
Yeah.
Rory Farrell
And even when we used to record the radio on tapes, because I. I'm really not that young. We would do that as well. Like, all right, if we want to listen to this again, let's do a push tape. Like, literally record the radio. That was a thing that made it. Made it a moment for a record outside of it just resonating sonically. That was like a moment with your friends.
Malcolm
Yeah. So.
Rory Farrell
So, like, who knows the lyrics? Like who? Like, that was so to the point.
Malcolm
Too much access kind of killed that. Like, having the ability. Having the ability to.
Rory Farrell
You shouldn't have that much access to art at any time. It's. It's a catch 22. Like, I really see both sides of how great that is, because I love the ability to do that. Especially when I got an ipod. I thought it was the greatest thing ever.
Malcolm
Yeah.
Rory Farrell
And it definitely changed my music discovery and my music taste. But it did definitely take away from the moments you have with music like the JID and Offset record, which is fired body since, like, if that was in radio time, that would probably be a joint that would live with me forever.
Malcolm
Right.
Rory Farrell
But now I. I don't know. I mean, I like it.
Malcolm
Yeah. But too much access.
Rory Farrell
Yeah. I'm not waiting for that record to come on because I can just play it.
Malcolm
Yeah.
Rory Farrell
So.
Malcolm
Well, Jid dropped his. God does like ugly.
Rory Farrell
I'll take. I'll take my. My sunflowers. I texted Demera. She owes me some sunflowers as well.
Malcolm
Yes, you did. At the top of the year, I believe you said JID will drop the best rap album.
Rory Farrell
Said jid and clips will be candidates for rap album of the year. And I. I think I'm there. It's only been two days. Plus, obviously we had to listen to the chat had tomorrow. The whole weekend and studio sessions. But off the. The few listens I had, of course, the jit. I mean, I feel like personally he's setting himself up to be the next generation person, but I don't know if that even exists anymore. That there's going to be like a new Big Three.
Malcolm
But Jimmy, I don't see it.
Rory Farrell
I. Yeah, I don't know if that's even going to be a thing. Not. Not to Jid's credit or discredit, but this. This is easily up there with the clips. Alfredo, too. Was. Was I the only one that, like, listened to and thought it was incredible?
Malcolm
No. So it was Sunday. I was on the phone with Nick. Nick Grant. And he asked me, say, yo, you're a JIT album yet? And I said, oh, shit. Like, I'm still listening to Alfredo, too, and clips. Like, I forgot JID dropped Friday. So I said, I'm listening to it today. So I'm like, what you think, Nick? Like, yo, there's some joints on there. Like, he definitely, you know, he got some shit on. There's definitely some joints that I think you gonna like. So I said, all right, let me. Let me check it out. So all day Sunday, moving around. So I'm playing the album. And again, when I'm listening to music, it's literally the music I hear first. I don't even know what you're saying. Camera. I'm just trying to hear the sound that you went after what you did with the music. So then now I'm getting to the lyrics and the flows, and I'm like, damn. Like, this feels like an album that would have came out in the 90s. Yep. Like, it has that. It has that energy. It has that attention to, you know, details when it comes to bars and how you write and construct songs. And, you know, Jid is one of those rappers that understands his voice as an instrument. The way he uses inflections in his voice and his tone, his. His cadence, his. His, you know, his flows on a lot of the records. He does, like, interesting little things with his voice that he. That he does with the music. And I thought that this album was. Was. Was incredible. Like, I listened to it. Some joints. I think the G's record, to me, is one of the better records I've heard from Jid in his discography, like, ever. Yeah, that's one of my favorite Jid songs, I think, ever. I'm terrible with titles, but I specifically looked at that. Cause when I heard it, I remember when I was listening to it the first time, and I'm listening to the music, and I'm listening, I'm like, damn. Like, what is that? So I went and looked. I had to see what the name of that particular song was. And I played that, like, three times. And I'm listening to what he's saying and the way he ended the album on For Keeps, I think, is the name of that one.
Rory Farrell
Yeah, for Keeps.
Malcolm
Yep. For Keeps. You know, he really got in his, you know, soul loop. The soul sample. Let me just get my shit off. You could obviously hear, you know, the Andre 3000 influence, the outcast influence. You could hear.
Rory Farrell
It's not even just that Dungeon Family. It's Dungeon Family, Goody Mob, like, even from Earth Gang, that whole. That whole crew, like the new version of East Atlanta, like Post Gucci, between Black Jid, Earth Gang, Reba, like, all of them doesn't get talked about enough, even though they all aren't in the same. I mean, obviously Jid and Earth Gang are Dreamville and LBR1 Black, but they all grew up together. That doesn't get talked about enough of, like, carrying on and elevating a sound in Atlanta. Because to me, that is. Is Goody Mob on steroids in 2025. With what Earth Gang and Jid with this. Did with this production. I. I should have looked at the credits. I don't know the full production breakdown. But yeah, on the side of somebody that could just rap really well, Atlanta is. Atlanta artists are great at rapping really well, but making sure that we're going to make good music.
Malcolm
Yeah.
Rory Farrell
Like, music goes first in Atlanta, lyrics go second. And I don't mean that as a slight. No, no. Because I think Three Stacks was one of the greatest lyricists ever. If you want to get down to it, he's going to put music way before lyrics, with everything. And that's where Atlanta always wins. And that's what I think Jid did on this album. We all know he could rap just as good as anybody in 2020. To me, that wasn't the focus. It was content of what he was saying, and it was melodies. It was how he was arranging his flow on certain things. Nothing about outside of Animal Volume one was, yo, I could rap better than y'.
Malcolm
All.
Rory Farrell
Yeah, it was music I could have.
Malcolm
Did without that record, though.
Rory Farrell
I mean, just.
Malcolm
Just being honest like that. And that's my thing. Even the album is incredible. I think the music is. Is great. The. The. You know, lyrically, his flows, everything, like he. Jid paid attention to every detail when it comes to constructing.
Rory Farrell
Yeah, Sierra on that Atlanta, the features was dope. Obviously, having the clips is crazy.
Malcolm
Malice might have another verse of the year on that.
Rory Farrell
Push and Malice both went on that community record, Pastor Troy.
Malcolm
Yeah.
Rory Farrell
I mean, showing my age of just how great it was to hear from Pastor Troy.
Malcolm
Yeah.
Rory Farrell
But, yeah, I can't say enough about this project.
Malcolm
Shout out to Vince. Vince got a crazy verse on that VCR's record. No, it's crazy verse on that VCR's record. Don Toliver. I love that. I love that Don Toliver record. I was. You know, I didn't. When I saw the Don Tolawa feature, I was kinda like, you know, seems like completely different Worlds. But, you know, you quickly realize how much of an artist Jit is. He's not just a rapper. Like, so mixing him with Don, it looks kinda like, to the eye, like, what would they do together? But the director's dope.
Rory Farrell
But that's very much to what I was saying before of, like, Three Stacks. Like, once Three Stacks went on his, like, feature run, it was always on records that you wouldn't expect.
Malcolm
Yeah.
Rory Farrell
Even when he would do his freestyles of Walk it out and, like, he would always go on things that you'd be like, all right, I didn't expect you to go on this. Even with. Whether it be James Blake, whether it be Frank, like, all that stuff, he always found a way to be on something different. And I think Jid has that same ability.
Malcolm
Yeah, he.
Rory Farrell
He can show out on anything and not sound weird.
Malcolm
Of Blue. Phenomenal record.
Rory Farrell
No, I think Don and Jay could do an EP tomorrow and it would sound great.
Malcolm
Yeah, no, I was definitely, again, you know, always. Always liked Jid, Always supported Jid. Think he's phenomenal. But, you know, you kind of get scared when it comes to your favorites putting out a project. Cause you're like, I hope he didn't. Wasn't, you know, influenced by certain pressures to make this type of sound and this. That. It's good to know that Jid is gonna be Jid. Like, he looks like he's sticking to what he wants to do, how he wants to sound, how he wants to, you know, be perceived. So it's always dope when your favorite rappers go about it that way and approach it. Like you said, stick to their core.
Rory Farrell
Yeah. And I'm. I mean, I think that speaks to the system that he's in. I think he was talking to B Dot. I forgot we were talking to. When I saw the clip. But just that Dreamville system of. They're not going to give you any of that pressure whatsoever.
Malcolm
Yeah.
Rory Farrell
Cole talked for years of when he was in that first Roc Nation system, where it was radio record. Let's give him a Stargate. And, like, you have to have that. And they were like, no, no, we could do this another way. Let me show you another way to get to that. A List rapper, which Cole did. So Jit is in a system where they're gonna let him do what he wants to do.
Malcolm
Yeah.
Rory Farrell
And, yeah, I think that speaks to Dreamville and why the music sounds so good. Because if they were over Jid's shoulder trying to make something happen, I don't think we'd get A good project. I also don't think you get like a shea butter baby. I. I think the system that Even and Cole have with their artists is the best way.
Malcolm
Now, Ari doesn't seem to be too happy with it, though.
Rory Farrell
Well, she left Jingle.
Malcolm
Exactly.
Rory Farrell
Yeah. But I mean, again, I really don't know, like, the politics of that. But before they let her even asl, like, they let her do her thing. So, I mean, I'm not sure contractually what that looks like, but Jid spoke very highly of. Of what it was like working with them in the major label system, and they did right by. By him. I don't know Ari's take on that, but. Yeah, I think everyone kind of just gets left alone. And you could do. Some people maybe don't want to be left alone. Yeah, maybe some people want. People can't be left alone. Some people maybe want more support than what they're doing. Like Earth Gang, I think is incredible because they're left alone now. You could say if they weren't, maybe they would be bigger because they're like two of the most talented people I've heard in the last 15 years, but they're left alone.
Malcolm
Yeah.
Rory Farrell
So if you want to be left alone and make your music and make your money, great system. If you want the major and like, all right, we're going to go buy you a hit somewhere, then maybe it's not the place for you. And I don't know if that. That's the case with art. I really don't. But.
Malcolm
Well, either way, shout out to Jid J. God does like Ugly. Available now. Stream that, download that, play that, support that. Phenomenal raps, Great music.
Rory Farrell
Westside Gun. Popping the album off within the first two seconds, I was like, wait, did I click the right album?
Malcolm
Yeah, man. I really, really like this project. I'm looking forward to. To living with it a little longer. Even though fucking next week Drake might decide to drop and then now I can't listen to. Or Kendrick might put something like, what the fuck, man? I'm just. I'm just digesting. God does like Ugly and here come you niggas with more raps. But no, this is a great project. Definitely enjoyed it. And shout out to Jed for. For phenomenal, phenomenal album.
Rory Farrell
Bryson Tiller, the Vices, Disc two came out before disc one. Yes. I'm really interested why he went about it that way.
Malcolm
Double disc or why not the do.
Rory Farrell
I mean the double disc? Whatever. It's the streaming era. I get it. But what. Why lead with disc two? Why wouldn't that be disc one? Well, maybe it'll flow better once both are out and it'll make more sense, but I don't know. Give me the beginning. In the beginning.
Malcolm
The beginning of the beginning.
Rory Farrell
Yeah. Like, we gave this a one over listen, so I. I want to make that very clear that this may not be a very fair review based off the schedule that we have had. With the time we're hearing this.
Malcolm
We can revisit it, though. We can give it some more. A couple more.
Rory Farrell
Yeah. No, I'm gonna be honest in what I. How I feel now. I feel like Bryson Tiller owned a sound.
Malcolm
He got a lot of kids out here.
Rory Farrell
His DNA is all over R and B. People that y' all claim are innovative, they're babies of Bryson. Him chasing the sexy Drill sound on three or four of these records was very disappointing to somebody I feel is an innovator in the R and B space.
Malcolm
You don't want to hear him on those drums.
Rory Farrell
No. No.
Malcolm
Why not?
Rory Farrell
I just don't. All right, one. Cool. That's fine. I get it. It's the times. But I. It was like the first two records and then no sharing. I believe it was. Yeah. I don't need three sexy Drill records. I don't need three of the same beat. I just think the words are. Are too important to go over the same shit that we have already. Like, you're not. That. Bryson started an entire R and B movement, an entire R and B pivot to then go back to what is trending at the moment. I just don't. I don't get it. Because he's. He's not that.
Malcolm
Yeah, well, I only had time to listen to the music. I didn't really get into what Bryson was saying, but the music. I'm not mad at music sounds good. It's a lot of the Bryson feel. Trap soul DNA is in there. Some of the calypso DNA is in there.
Rory Farrell
Yeah. Which. Which, which sexy Drill takes a lot of calypso shit.
Malcolm
Yeah.
Rory Farrell
To begin.
Malcolm
So I'm not. I'm. You know, I'm. I like it off the. Just to. Just listening to the music. I want to go back and, you know, really get into what Bryson is saying, what he's talking about. But just off of. I think I listened to it once and then we were playing it in the studio earlier, just listening to the music. I'm not mad at it. It sounds. It's. It's. It's right on par with what Bryson does. It's his Sound. I know you said you don't really want too much of the Sexy Drill shit, but that's not too far in the.
Rory Farrell
Okay. I mean, I guess you're right in.
Malcolm
That it's not too far from the track.
Rory Farrell
That's why I say all of Bryson's DNA is over everything. Because I do think the Sexy Drill shit is pretty much drill music with trap soul. Yeah, like that. That's his sound. But I mean, do it in a more innovative and creative way. Like that could. That could have just been any sexy Drill beat from the Bronx. Like, I feel like I could find that beat on YouTube if I typed in sexy Drill beat. And I. I just feel like Bryson's better than that. But don't get me wrong, like, Burnout I thought was incredible. Money Shower Interlude is fire more than money. What's the Rick Ross joint Mini like? I liked records on this first disc. I just. It makes me more curious what's on disc one. Like, why. Why this approach?
Malcolm
I think.
Rory Farrell
I think, why do we need this?
Malcolm
I think it'll probably be more R.
Rory Farrell
B. I think it's gonna be straight R B Music is really what I think it's gonna be.
Malcolm
But. But Bryson is. I mean, like I said, the music is still Bryson. Is still Bryson there?
Rory Farrell
Of course, his pen did not miss on it. He's one of the greatest writers, period. But I just. I don't know. It's my personal taste. I'm sure everyone else likes hearing him on Sexy Drill, but I would have just like one flip of like, oh, damn. All right, we got Bryson on. On the new sound. I didn't need three of them.
Malcolm
Right.
Rory Farrell
That. That's really where I stand on the entire thing. But again, I don't know if it's tied to vices. There's a deeper meaning. I don't know is the Sexy Drill and he's trying to live his rhymes. It's his vice. I don't know.
Malcolm
Yeah, I liked it, though. The music sounds good. I'm definitely gonna listen to it some more today and, you know, the rest of the week just to kind of get into the music a little more. But it sounds great. It sounds like Bryson Tiller sounds like he got another project to add to his discography that we. We gonna fuck with. So. Yeah. Bryson Tiller devices available now disc two not one disc two new warrior now.
Rory Farrell
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Yeah, I saw she put out a video explaining that. I think one of the ideas she had for the announcement or how she wanted to roll out the next song was kind of spoiled.
Rory Farrell
Yeah. So I guess somebody leaked the announcement and title. Yes. Is from. Again, we're recording this literally right now at 5 o' clock on August 11th. But yeah, it appears once again that this feels a little rushed. And I'm not trying to on Cardi.
Malcolm
What feels rushed? The announcement or just.
Rory Farrell
Just the entire thing because.
Malcolm
But she wasn't trying to announce nothing.
Rory Farrell
I know, but it feels very, like, reactive because how outside came out is because it leaked, which she even said, you know, after she had some words for us, which was fine, but she went on to say that they had to pivot because it leaked.
Malcolm
Right.
Rory Farrell
And now she's saying, all right, well, I had a better idea of how I wanted to put out Imaginary Players, but clearly it leaked, the title leaked. So now I have to figure out what the to do for Friday. So I'm not saying rushed per se, just feels sloppy. And I feel for Cardi. This is not a slight to Cardi whatsoever. Like what's going on internally with Atlantic that would. Unless this is the strategy and this is like the, the, the deeper rollout that I don't really fully understand yet, that this is the leak rollout, that, hey, we're just gonna keep leaking.
Malcolm
Yeah.
Rory Farrell
And then react to it. I don't know. That could be it. But I do have a very deeper Barbara theory with Imaginary Players. Because Cardi was saying in that clip, was it. Was there some version of it being hard to get that record to be put out?
Malcolm
Well, she alluded to saying, this is if I. I gotta tell you how to. One day I wish I could tell you the story of what I had to go through to get this record, you know, I mean, I guess done or whatever.
Rory Farrell
This is a full theory. What's like full theory? Guys, I'm just, I'm shooting this shit right now amongst friends. I think Cardi had an Imaginary Players beat that was a flip of the Jay Z record and she wanted to use it and HOV said no. And then Nikki went on all her insane des hove. I'm sure if I refresh my timeline right now, she's probably still going. I think HOV probably went, oh, Cardi, you, you want, you want the sample.
Malcolm
I got you and gave it to her, you think?
Rory Farrell
I fully think HOV cleared the Imaginary Players sample based off everything Nikki has been doing. No, I fully believe that.
Malcolm
Get the.
Rory Farrell
There's no way.
Malcolm
And listen, I could be n. Man.
Rory Farrell
Peach, make sure you put this in the cut of the, the, the IG clip. I can be wrong. I'm dog, we're going with the information we have and we're shooting the. No, but because I'm a 35 year old new Yorker, I think Imaginary Players and I think the Jay Z song and I think Cardi B from the Bronx, if she had that title, would flip that beat and that's why she titled it that. And if there's a whole long story of how it got cleared and then all of a sudden it got cleared. Everything Nikki has been doing with DEZ and HOV and Roc Nation and the enemy that Cardi B is to Nicki Minaj, I can see them going, yo, take that fucking beat.
Malcolm
Yeah, but no, I get what you're saying. I get how you put that together. But I don't, I don't think Jay is that invested or.
Rory Farrell
I didn't say he had to be.
Malcolm
Invested or he doesn't.
Rory Farrell
I think he has so much, so many other. I'm sure he was on a yacht with his kids and went, yeah, you could do that.
Malcolm
Does he?
Rory Farrell
And then moved on with the rest of his fucking life.
Malcolm
Does he know that Nikki is currently like, you know, going on her campaign? Absolutely, yes. But I don't think he's. I don't think he said, you know what? That sample I told Cardi no to six months ago.
Rory Farrell
No, get it done. I'm not saying that he said no to the sample. I think it was maybe on the back burner as it wasn't very much of a priority. And maybe the record for Carti wasn't that much of a priority. There's been a million songs that people do that have samples that you don't get around to clearing until you've had. You could have a song for three years and a week before you go, yo, I want to put this out. Then it becomes a priority now with everything that's going on with Nikki. Yeah, What a stack for Cardi to now rap on a flip of Imaginary Players. Like, what if she really starts that whole shit out? It was like y' all was drinking Casamigos. We all thought it was vodka. Like, what happens then?
Malcolm
Nothing, to answer your question. Are you asking me nothing? I'm just listening to it.
Rory Farrell
Nah, that beat, the Imaginary Players beat is too iconic. Like, if that comes in and Cardi talking her. Because that's what she said in the video. She flexing, getting her shit off Imaginary Players. What is the theme of that record?
Malcolm
You know what's gonna be funny? This. This song's gonna come out, and it's gonna have nothing to do.
Rory Farrell
Oh, I'm.
Malcolm
Rory's talking.
Rory Farrell
I'm sure. I'm sure.
Malcolm
Nothing to do with the situation.
Rory Farrell
Let me put the pieces together.
Malcolm
Yeah.
Rory Farrell
No bill of her going, yo, this one of them joints. I'm just really flexing and getting my off.
Malcolm
Right?
Rory Farrell
I would say Volume one. That was the first time ho was really talking. Not just drug dealer talk. Like, I. What's a 4.0 to a 4.6? Like that record in particular. 30, 40 grand Cox suck a beat. Like, he was flexing so crazy on that record about everybody else. Why would Cardi's flexed on a million records, right? Why is she using those words in particular?
Malcolm
Imaginary Player. Oh, okay. I get it. We gonna wait and see. When did she say this was coming out?
Rory Farrell
Friday.
Malcolm
Friday.
Rory Farrell
But I guess they had to pivot. It could be this is how Lucian's son does things. I don't know.
Malcolm
Listen, Cardi, I love you. I know it may seem like I don't, and I be. You know, may take some things I say out of context, but. I love you. Anybody from the Bronx, Y' all know how I feel. I'm supporting the Bronx every day. But I'm. I'm worried about this album, though. It's just too many things that's happening. Leaks and, you know, things not feeling like, you know, Cardi doesn't seem like she's happy with the way a lot of shit is going. Some of the executives up there that were there, that had a big part in her success on the first album are no longer there. It's a lot that. It seems like Cardi is behind the eight ball on a lot of this. You know, announcements of songs leaking that she don't want it to leak. And I'm worried, man. I'm worried because Cardi is. She's. She's a. She's a priority. She's a priority artist in any building. She walks in. Had great success on her first album. One of the biggest stars that we have. And I'm, you know, I'm happy to see her always win in whatever she's doing, but just talking about the music and, you know, because that's all the other is, you know, I don't. I'm just. I'm always focused on the music. What does the music sound like?
Rory Farrell
Well. Well, back to scared. Back to. And again, super respect to Cardi. Even after she did her Twitter spaces discussing our reaction to Outside, I feel for her again, because now Friday, she has to put a record out and it doesn't have a visual. And she's a visual leading artist. Like, that's very important and what she's also amazing at. So I feel for the second single. I mean, she said with Outside, they didn't have artwork.
Malcolm
Yeah, just.
Rory Farrell
All right, whatever. We'll do that. Now it appears like she has to do it again.
Malcolm
Yeah.
Rory Farrell
But this, again, this could be a crazy strategy where this isn't on the album. Outside's not on the album, even though it's in the track listing. But maybe we. Maybe they are shooting videos for the records that they are actually going to push. I just feel for the second time with Cardi's second album, that's the most anticipated for God knows how long. The first two records don't even have a video. That's crazy. So I. This is not a knock on Cardi at all. I feel for her.
Malcolm
Yeah. No, that's what I'm saying.
Rory Farrell
This is fucked up.
Malcolm
It's not Cardi's fault. It just seems like the things around her are just not going the way she wants them to and, you know, envisioned in her head. And she seems like she always has to pivot and, you know, make adjustments with things that are out of her control, just things that are happening. But, you know, ultimately, it's her project, it's her album, so she has to stand behind everything that happens with it, man. So, yeah, when I say scared, meaning, like, it just feels like, you know, she's gotta. She gotta do too much, you know, figuring it out and making up for mishaps and things like that. And it's like she's supposed to just be the artist and she has this vision and she Has a team around her that helps pull the vision together and execute it and get it out. Like, you know, let Cardi create the vision and, you know, the way she wants things to look and sound and feel and then put the team around me to execute it. But it seems like, you know, things keep happening where she gotta make videos like this and say, yo, you know, I didn't want that to happen. I'm disappointed that it did this, that, and the third. So it's like, I hope that doesn't take away from the music. I hope that doesn't affect the music. I hope doesn't affect, you know, her energy around the rollout and putting things together and, you know, being on top of her game. Because I'm rooting for. I want to see Cardi do big.
Rory Farrell
And with an artist, an A list artist like Cardi. Sometimes it's also not just about the music. It's how it's presented. Yeah, that's a very important part. So that's, that's where I feel. But I mean, I don't know. If I was at Atlantic now, I would say, yo, let's fly her to San Diego and let's shoot a live video at Sea World for imaginary players.
Malcolm
Terrible segue, but I love it anyway.
Rory Farrell
No, you don't think, like, that would be a thing if Cardi went to Sea World. Like, if we have to shoot a video, let's do a live stream. Let's.
Malcolm
No, it's a, it's a. Anywhere Cardi goes.
Rory Farrell
You don't think it'd be crazy with. With not party next to Shamu rapping. Like, that would be the way we get the visual.
Malcolm
That would be a live stream. That would be crazy for anybody next to Shamu rapping.
Rory Farrell
And you can do it like three times too. Like, let's go back to one, start it again. And we're like, tell Shamu that would be a moment.
Malcolm
We didn't get it. Do it again.
Rory Farrell
Like, no, no, I'm. I think that would be hilarious.
Malcolm
You didn't hit your cue. Go back. You're not getting no fish.
Rory Farrell
Cardi's hilarious. Like, I think a live stream of trying to do a live video that way would be so funny for Cardi. If you have to find last minute ways to put music out. Like, it wasn't so much a segue. Even though I heard Trina. I mean, shut it down. Can somebody shut shut seaworld down? Like, for real?
Malcolm
Well, PETA tried for years, but y' all didn't. Y' all didn't let it happen, y'. All. They used our culture to open back the gates. Look, everybody, Trina there now, shutting it.
Rory Farrell
Down with his tongue out.
Malcolm
Shout out to Trina. I'm sure Baby D will be happy to hear that Trina shut down her performance at Sea World. I just think it's funny that SeaWorld is attaching themselves to our culture to be, you know, cool, even though animals are being held in captivity. We got the documentary. We saw it. We were there. We saw the documentary. We should not be supporting SeaWorld. But how is it legal support Trina at the same time?
Rory Farrell
Well, like, seriously, how is.
Malcolm
I don't know. I have no idea.
Rory Farrell
How are you allowed to do that?
Malcolm
I have no idea.
Rory Farrell
There's no regulations of everything we regulate on my. On my own taxes of me, and I'm nobody in the country.
Malcolm
I asked you how the first is.
Rory Farrell
Are we allowed when we first saw.
Malcolm
This shit, I asked y' all wasn't. I thought C World was shut down.
Rory Farrell
Down.
Malcolm
I thought SeaWorld was closed. I thought it was completely shut down.
Rory Farrell
They kill a trainer and just move them from Seattle to San Diego.
Malcolm
Got it. Okay. All right, I get it.
Rory Farrell
Yeah. Some pre.
Malcolm
Yeah. Just go to go to go to Seattle.
Rory Farrell
And you know what's so crazy Between Seattle and San Diego, there's a whole Pacific Ocean right there.
Malcolm
Yeah, just let them go. Just let them go home.
Rory Farrell
They're both on the Pacific.
Malcolm
That's where they got them. That's where they caught him at. Like, just let him go home, man. But shout out to Trina. I mean, you know, shit, she doing what she got she was paid to do. Show up, show out, and put on a great show. And, you know, that's what she did.
Rory Farrell
I would pod from SeaWorld, but they would kick us out within five minutes of our conversation.
Malcolm
Yeah. Cause I'm gonna try to find a button to open that gate. You know that back gate that goes right into.
Rory Farrell
I would do right into the Pacific.
Malcolm
Yeah, I'm open.
Rory Farrell
What was homie's name in Free Willy one Got him over the shit. Yeah, I'm going dressed as him. I'm even bringing the baseball that he broke the window with, and I'm trying to break Tank with a baseball.
Malcolm
Oh, man. Somebody got arrested. Who the gets arrested at Sea World? I mean, at a trina performance at SeaWorld.
Rory Farrell
I don't know. That kind of checks out.
Malcolm
Trina don't got no songs that you should be getting arrested to unless you get naked. Unless you're taking your clothes off.
Rory Farrell
Fair.
Malcolm
Like who gonna start fighting for on a Trina record?
Rory Farrell
Nah, there's plenty of Trina records that you start fighting every collab with Trick Daddy. I might fight somebody. A girl's definitely fighting.
Malcolm
Yeah.
Rory Farrell
Cas. Trina, as much as she has sexual music, she has fight music for women.
Malcolm
There was a. There was a whole list of performances, I think who's. Who's next on the list? Because they put out a whole list of who's coming. I know Fat.
Rory Farrell
I think it's like. I love the 90s was.
Malcolm
I love the 90s is going. Yeah, that's. That's. That's. That's Rob. Rob bass going to SeaWorld is absolutely crazy. Yeah.
Rory Farrell
I think it was a hologram of Prince. Was the next one.
Malcolm
Wait till they try to get Michael Jackson.
Rory Farrell
I love the 90s tour. Color Me Bad, Rob Pace Stretch and Young MC.
Malcolm
Is this the Sea World or this? They're calling it the Sea World Summer Spectacular concerts. It's running until August 23rd. Baby Bash was there. Yin Yang was there. Soulja Boy Battle. They did their. Fat Joe was there in July. Waka was there in July. I love the 90s tour. Was there. Trina was just there. So now we have genuine this weekend. And then the Turnt up tour with Petey Paolo, Paul Wall, J' Khan and Rory will be there August 23rd.
Rory Farrell
That's a fact.
Malcolm
In San Diego.
Rory Farrell
Would you. Because this is the episode I want to make you feel uncomfortable. Would you go on a cruise with me?
Malcolm
No. See how fast it's not uncomfortable?
Rory Farrell
Okay.
Malcolm
Answered you? No.
Rory Farrell
Okay. What if the cruise was the locks? The Brat, Jizza, Juvenile Lupe Fiasco, MC Light, Exhibit, Twister, Dead Prez, Little Brother, Far side, Paul Wall, Cool G Rap, Onyx, Buckshot, Smith and Wesson, Nappy Roots, MC Shyrock, Ed Lover House Band, the 400 Degrees Band on DJ. This is just on DJ. DJ Jazzy Jeff, Manny Fresh, DJ Paul J. Period DJ Scratch, DJ Evil D, DJ Cool. And it continues on. Then on top of that, you have Avion Crockett, Guy Torre, Tony Roberts, Lance Woods. Would you go on that cruise with me? Is that not the greatest cruise you've ever heard in your fucking life?
Malcolm
When you say a cruise and then you say the locks is there and you say Jizza and Juvenile Lupe.
Rory Farrell
Oh, damn. They took Fab off the list. I felt like Fab was on this at one point. Dead Pred, Miami to the Bahamas with Dead Prez. Like imagine Dead Prez just screaming White Devil by the hot tub in the Bahamas. That's A bucket list thing for me. So this has been. This has been sold out for the entire year and I have went through every publication and rapper on here to see if I could get a cabin. I'm trying. It's the Rock Rock the Bells. If people don't know Rock the Bells, like, I mean, the biggest innovators in the hip hop festival space by far, shout out to Rock the Bells. You've changed all of hip hop with what you did. I have. I've reached out to everyone. I will pay whatever the fuck I need to for a cabin. I'm not looking for a free ticket. I will pay. This would be the funnest trip. I'm not saying there'll be hoes there. I just want. I just want to see exhibit at the buffet.
Malcolm
To see the Lock performing on a cruise ship.
Rory Farrell
Like, imagine chilling with Kiss for four days just from Miami.
Malcolm
Kiss.
Rory Farrell
We was at the bar.
Malcolm
We was just. He was just getting a pina colada together and now he's on stage in 10 minutes. Like, look at.
Rory Farrell
I mean, look at the DJ. This is one of the craziest ideas. This is what. This would be nerd hip hop fyre fest. And it's actually going to happen. Yeah, this is. This is crazy.
Malcolm
This is Kai's. Kai University on, On. On the water for me. Yeah, for me, this is. This is the streamers University in the ocean for me. Like, you got the locks and then you got. See. Cause now when you get down to Buckshot and Smith and Wesson, that's a Onyx. I don't know if I want to be on a boat with Onyx fans. I just don't know. I'm not saying. I'm not saying it's not a hard. No, I'm saying I don't know.
Rory Farrell
But here's the thing. I think because it's a cruise, most of these people are going to be families. Like the way as men we get dragged on family vacations.
Malcolm
Most of these niggas is going to be convicted felons, too.
Rory Farrell
Yeah, but they, they changed their life around.
Malcolm
I don't know. I don't want to find out on the water.
Rory Farrell
And. And you don't need a passport if you're going by boat from.
Malcolm
I have a passport.
Rory Farrell
I know what I'm saying. From Miami to the Bahamas, you only need one. With flying, you're on a boat, you're good.
Malcolm
Yeah.
Rory Farrell
So, yeah, I'm sure everyone is going to be that. But I believe in, you know, redemption and I think a lot. It's just going to be a bunch of.
Malcolm
You believe in prison reform?
Rory Farrell
Clearly.
Malcolm
Yeah.
Rory Farrell
Look how they treat the prison. I fully believe in everything that the prison system does in the United States. That's why we jail so many people more than any other country in the world is because we're. We're thinking of reform.
Malcolm
Absolutely.
Rory Farrell
I think this would be the funnest people watching trip of all time. I would have so much fucking fun on this.
Malcolm
That's a. That's a crazy lineup. Shout out to everybody on this lineup. It's an incredible lineup. The locks, the brat. I just don't know if I'm willing to be on the open ocean with Onyx and Smith and Wesson fans. I don't want to be on the train with Onyx and Smith and Wesson.
Rory Farrell
Fans, let alone rock the bells. I am telling you now, not that I have any value, especially to this lineup. I will host a three day podcast panel in the conference room. Just for a cabin. You don't need to pay me.
Malcolm
I'll work for food.
Rory Farrell
I'll work for food. I will work for food. Give me. Yo. The. Where everyone died in the Titanic. The people that was like in the bottom. Yeah. Yo, put me. I don't. I need the club quarters. Where that is at.
Malcolm
Yeah.
Rory Farrell
Where all the employees is at. Just put me in one of those bunks.
Malcolm
You just need to be on that boat.
Rory Farrell
I wear the same thing every day. I don't even need a suitcase if that takes up too much space.
Malcolm
We talking and cracking jokes. But it's all in love. But this might be sold out.
Rory Farrell
No, I'm telling you. So I can't. I've tried. Well, I've tried.
Malcolm
Oh, no.
Rory Farrell
I would have just bought a cabin.
Malcolm
Oh, okay.
Rory Farrell
It sold out immediately. It's been. Oh, so never mind.
Malcolm
Is some seats available? There's some rooms available.
Rory Farrell
No, because last time I did that, they put me on like a waiting list.
Malcolm
The wait's over.
Rory Farrell
Don't tell me the wait is. Don't tell me the way.
Malcolm
This is what you've been waiting for.
Rory Farrell
Yeah, it's a waiting list.
Malcolm
This ship is. This ship is full. But we may have room for you.
Rory Farrell
Yeah, no, this is sold out, though. I mean, maybe.
Malcolm
Oh, okay. We got action.
Rory Farrell
But that's a waiting list. You can like try to get that.
Malcolm
Oh, okay. I see what you're saying.
Rory Farrell
Yeah.
Malcolm
Got you.
Rory Farrell
So I, I was trying to go like direct to them.
Malcolm
Yeah.
Rory Farrell
Be like, yeah, if one pulls up, like, I'll just send you. I'll cash App you, bro. Like, what you need?
Malcolm
Yeah. Who's scalping? Who's scalping Rooms at the. At the.
Rory Farrell
You know, they are at the dock. Sticky fingers.
Malcolm
Shout out to Rock the bells. Man, that look like it's gonna be crazy, though. That's a crazy lineup.
Rory Farrell
You wouldn't want to go on that with me.
Malcolm
I just don't know about being on a ship. Like, it's not.
Rory Farrell
It's Miami to Bahamas. It's three days. It ain't that much. And then you get to kick it in the Bahamas.
Malcolm
Like, are they performing on the ship or, like, when they dock in the Bahamas?
Rory Farrell
Oh, that. I actually don't know. I thought for the most part it was on the ship. I'm sure it's spread out. I'm sure. Probably, like, a lot of the DJ shit might be on the boat.
Malcolm
Yeah.
Rory Farrell
But, like, imagine just being on a cruise. You could just see Jazzy Jeff spin.
Malcolm
Go upstairs and watch the locks perform.
Rory Farrell
Yeah. Oh, yes. On the cruise there. That. That's one of, like, I'll go with the shit cruise or whatever. All the documentaries are now on Netflix of how every cruise ship people are missing.
Malcolm
I mean, they going to change the name now to Rock the Boat.
Rory Farrell
No, n. I still Rock the Boat.
Malcolm
I mean, they on the ship. Think this, right. That's a layup. No, pe. Rock the Rock the Boat.
Rory Farrell
You'd have to do a whole Aaliyah set.
Malcolm
Look at what Josh about Blackjack. Smith and Wesson on there. Josh J.
Rory Farrell
Didn't do it for him. It was like black.
Malcolm
Blackjack.
Rory Farrell
You know, you play Western right outside and go play blackjack.
Malcolm
You can have breakfast next to Curtis Blow. What the. Are you talking about blackjack? I could have eggs with Rakim. What the. Are you telling me right now the.
Rory Farrell
Soda fountain is free? Yeah, Josh is there. Oh, man. But, yeah, I mean, I really want to go. And I could do yoga at the basketball court.
Malcolm
That look like it's gonna be interesting.
Rory Farrell
And, you know, you could catch some, like, questionable bodies, but they'd have. They'd have some good miles on them. Yeah, them girls would know what they were doing.
Malcolm
Yeah, you need that experience, veterans.
Rory Farrell
And it's a cruising field.
Malcolm
Yeah. So we just cruising. We just chilling.
Rory Farrell
Like any chick that was like, yo, I'm here for buckshot. I know. That head is crazy, for sure. Actually, while we're on music, what's up with your man's My man who it's going to come across as hate. And I promise this, it's really not hate whatsoever. Why is, why is Aiden Ross the Iceman rollout?
Malcolm
Is, is Aiden Ross to Iceman roll up?
Rory Farrell
I mean, obviously been on stream together because of the steak relationship and everything that they've been doing. But he had mentioned that Drake had sent him Iceman already and he was like, yeah, cool. And I could even see it in, in Drake's face of like, I sent you the album and, and with the platform you have, that's your reaction.
Malcolm
Like, yeah, but that's not, that's not a rollout, though. You said that.
Rory Farrell
I'm just saying. Well, yes, it is. It is part of the rollout. Let's, let's call it for what it is. Of course it is. His, his relationship with Aiden, whether it be genuine or because of common business interests. Aiden is a big part of anytime Drake speaks. And I just feel like that's cool when you're doing the streaming and gambling thing because I'm never going to take away from the base that Aiden has. I'm well aware of his platform. But when it comes to music at a time when your music is probably under the biggest microscope it's ever been under since 2008, yeah, Aiden is the one that you want to talk music with. Like, he's not even a, like, hey, Aiden, for hip hop, like, what are we talking about? Like, this is the person that you want to go on stream with. Even I, I came on here and said that Kai should be number one on that hip hop list. But when it comes down to it, I don't think Kai, I think Kai is a streamer before he's a music person, which is fine. I'm not saying you have to be that whatsoever. But at least like Kai or somebody would have been better to send music to for a reaction and that would go out to the public.
Malcolm
This guy, I don't think.
Rory Farrell
What do you think that like the first song he ever heard was in his life? Like, and I'm not saying you had to be somewhere like age. I'm just saying I don't even think he like, listens to music.
Malcolm
I don't, I don't think that Drake anticipated he would mention anything about hearing the album. I don't think that was a part of the plan at all. I think Drake looked like he was actually surprised. He even said it was like, I.
Rory Farrell
Think he was sick about it. He played it off well. But.
Malcolm
So this is what I'm saying. I don't. So when you say it's the rollout, like, I don't think Drake was anticipating Aiden saying anything about the new music like at all. I think he, Aiden caught him by surprise by just saying that. Like I don't think that that was part of a plan or rollout at all. I mean him and Aiden obviously have a relationship.
Rory Farrell
Yeah, of course.
Malcolm
And Drake, you know, trust him with his music so he let him hear some of the music and Aiden just, just said it. I mean, I don't know.
Rory Farrell
I'm not. I also want to make it clear. I'm not saying Drake being a global superstar. I don't think that the live and die opinion is off like nerdy hip hop people like me whatsoever. I think the Aiden community is a huge part of his fan base to begin with. He's a global superstar. People that are just casual music fans, you need their opinion as well. But I don't know, I just think with everything going on, I would have texted him like I'm never sending you a untitled link again.
Malcolm
How you know that's not what he texting him right there?
Rory Farrell
Oh, it definitely, it definitely could be. It definitely could be.
Malcolm
You're fried.
Rory Farrell
Like you're. Things are already on edge no matter what. And the only person that has publicly said that they heard the music, he was like, yeah, and you not even like that. Like nobody looks to Aiden for.
Malcolm
Well that's why I don't Music opinions. I don't think it matters what he said. I don't think that that.
Rory Farrell
No, it just, it just fuels. I, I would be frustrated because it fuels a, A narrative that's being carried already coming off everything. That's why I just think with certain like just stick to gam. Because he's talked about music with Aiden before and I've never understood it like that shouldn't even be your I guess wave with the music side. Keep to. To gambling, keep to just funny streaming with him. Yeah, music dog. That should be the last thing that you even speak to that human being about.
Malcolm
Yeah, but it don't matter, man.
Rory Farrell
Drake is of course it's a very.
Malcolm
Small thing that doesn't matter. That is very, very small in the bigger, bigger scheme of things. But again, him and Aiden have a personal relationship and Aiden just, you know, wanted people to know he heard the album, you know, for whatever reason. I don't, I don't know why he would say that. Like it is what it is but I don't think there's anything wrong with that. I don't think that does anything negative for the rollout. I don't think it does anything negative for the way people gonna receive the music once they have the music, which is what they seem to do with any Drake album over the years, is they'll love it. It's that simple.
Rory Farrell
Changes Drake should be extremely intentional with every move he's about to make. And I just don't think that's the one. Because even like.
Malcolm
But how is that even saying Drake's move. That's not a Drake move. That's even saying.
Rory Farrell
Let me lay my point. Even back in the day, like I remember, and I'm not spilling any news per se, there was a time where there was a Drake Dropbox that had just been sent to so many fucking people that they were just uploading music. Like I heard half of CLB because there was just a Dropbox that was just being shared everywhere because he was sending it to certain people. And I'm not saying Aiden wouldn't hold it down or anything like that, but like you're. You're dealing with people that would be more on the side of, hey, I have this, than hey, let me hear it. And to me, that's a problem in this time.
Malcolm
That's all I understand. Yeah, I get it.
Rory Farrell
But I don't know, I'm looking forward to. To Iceman, he. I put out something literally just now. I don't know if this is a trailer for a tour coming to a city near you with a bunch of tour footage. What did I miss in the background? If he's already announcing a tour for Iceman, and I don't know if that's the case here, I would assume Iceman would be coming out Friday. Like have you putting out a tour announcement?
Malcolm
I'm gonna go on the side of this is probably a visual movie gonna be available in theaters.
Rory Farrell
Okay.
Malcolm
People that aren't at the shows overseas can get a, you know, get a glimpse of the show, can watch the show, maybe stream it at some point. Look at all the production that's gone into the show, the set. You know, that behind the scenes, in depth look of. Yeah, a Drake, A Drake show. I think this, this is probably going to be like a. Yeah, one of those, like a, you know, short, short film type.
Rory Farrell
Oh, I mean, I love that type of stuff. I actually kind of miss. I mean, not so much like Fade to Black, but just like that used to be a thing for huge artists where they. Their concerts would be in movie theaters.
Malcolm
Yeah.
Rory Farrell
If you couldn't catch it. So if that's the case. Yeah, I think that's a great idea.
Malcolm
Yeah, I would like that. I think that would be dope.
Rory Farrell
Yeah.
Malcolm
Some different. Cool.
Rory Farrell
For sure. All right. You guys wanted to talk about this preseason game. You guys already think he's Joe Montana, but what's up?
Malcolm
I mean, it's.
Rory Farrell
No, no, no, go ahead. It's a preseason.
Malcolm
Listen, there's a new number 12 in town.
Rory Farrell
There's a new number 12 again. It's gonna come off as, hey, dog.
Malcolm
There'S a new number. There's a new number 12 in town down. And he has melanin this time, all right? Like Shador sand.
Rory Farrell
It's not the melanin. It's the brown and orange of the jersey that he wears. That is a curse of every goddamn quarterback that comes out of the league.
Malcolm
Shador is a legend. Already stamped him.
Rory Farrell
He's a stamp.
Malcolm
Stamp him. He's a legend. He's on his way to Canton. It is what it is, right there.
Rory Farrell
It's an hour away.
Malcolm
It's right there. But no, Shador saying is. His preseason debut was this week, this weekend, and he did a great job. Man, you look good.
Rory Farrell
Listen. 138 passing yards, two TDs.
Malcolm
He looked good.
Rory Farrell
Even getting 23 attempts in a preseason game to begin with.
Malcolm
Listen, we talk about crazy, being under the microscope. We know what Shador is under right now. Everything that happened draft night with all of the writers and all of the experts were saying about him. He went out there this past weekend and, you know, he put all of that to bed. He put on a solid performance. He did.
Rory Farrell
No, nothing's been tucked in. There's been no bedtime.
Malcolm
I feel. I think so. I think. I think this is just a. Yeah, but regardless, it's.
Rory Farrell
Oh, I'm not saying it's not. That's great.
Malcolm
See, but that's why. But that's why I don't like that it's a preseason game. Because if it was a preseason game and he played like shit, they would say he played like shit. It wouldn't be, oh, it's a preseason game. But because he played well. Not saying you, but I'm just saying that's what writers say. Oh, it's a preseason game. Okay, cool. But had he went out there and went fucking 7 for 30 and threw four interceptions, would it have just been a preseason game then?
Rory Farrell
And I know you're not saying. I'm saying that, but with my take, I would have been like, yo, it's a preseason game. Let him get his footing. Like. Let him like that. If. If he went fucking 0 for 23, I'd be like, another Reason give like give him a chance.
Malcolm
Another reason why I don't like that it's a preseason game is because that's still NFL players.
Rory Farrell
That's a fact. And, and first of all, NFL players.
Malcolm
That are in playing for a spot.
Rory Farrell
In the most pressure job interview any of us could ever even imagine.
Malcolm
Absolutely.
Rory Farrell
I sit there and say, yo, I'm, I'm proficient in Microsoft Excel. I could never imagine if there's this many roster spots and I have four games in a very weird put together NFL game where people getting subbed out, we don't even know. Every move I make is I could get one play and that'll define my existence here. Yeah, I could never understand that pressure. But that's why I also say it's preseason. Like if he shit the bed, I wouldn't be here slandering him. I'd be like, preseason, let the kid, I'm not saying get some snaps.
Malcolm
People would be. Absolutely. He's under a huge microscope. Everything he does, everything he says, everything he wears, everything, everything is under a microscope. For Shador Sanders, I'm just happy that he went out there. He let his, his game do the talking, put on a great performance, looked solid, looked good, looked comfortable. And again, man, I'm just, you know, just happy to see that he put it together and under the pressure, was able to perform and put on a good, put put together a good game. That's all.
Rory Farrell
Meanwhile, his man's is playing both ways in Jacksonville in a preseason game. Can't get a fucking rest.
Malcolm
No. But that's what he's want to do.
Rory Farrell
He got time to rest and shit. His man's Paul is going both ways in the NFL. Only, only his pops did that.
Malcolm
I mean, you know, I don't think Travis Hunter is going to be a two way player his entire career though. That's, I think that's. He's going to have to pick.
Rory Farrell
They're trying to figure out.
Malcolm
Yeah. Figure out where we're going to put him. But he looked okay. He had, he had a decent game. But again, you know, it's for both of them, it's early. I'm just happy that, you know, they look comfortable. They settling in with Shorty in the stands. Who's Shorty?
Rory Farrell
I don't know his wife's name.
Malcolm
Travis Hunter. Oh, I don't, I don't know.
Rory Farrell
Ms. Hunter? Yes, Mrs. Hunter?
Malcolm
No, I don't, I have no idea. But something happened a couple weeks ago and you know how you see things online and you kind of just like Put them to the back. You're like, I didn't just see that. So now, first of all, prayers to Dion. Coach. Coach Dion Sanders. He revealed that I think he was battling bladder cancer, something like that. They caught it, he had surgery. Everything is good. So he, you know, he put. Put out a video talking about him dealing with that and having to overcome, you know, such a hurdle, as serious as that. But it was the video he posted. He was with somebody that. I was very confused. I didn't know what was happening, you know, I know. I understand. Rory. I miss a lot of things that happen online. I don't subscribe to a lot of things y' all have to tell me, yo, you know, this happened. And I'm like, work. But nobody. I felt like nobody told me this. I felt like this was something I just bumped into and was like, what is happening? What is going on? So Coach Sanders released a video in.
Rory Farrell
The hospital with his night nurse with.
Malcolm
He had company with him, but the company was somebody that we recognize and we know as Karrueche Sanders.
Rory Farrell
We recognize and as we know, isn't.
Malcolm
Her last name Sanders. Oh, I thought it was Mrs. Sanders. Well, now it is. No, I'm joking. He was with Karrueche. Now, Karrueche. Karrueche is, you know, beautiful, talented. I just never thought I would see Karrueche and Deon Santa. Coach Deion Sanders.
Rory Farrell
Why are you referring, like, Ms. Lauryn Hill? Like, you just call him Dion Sanders.
Malcolm
No, no, you don't. You don't do that to no coach. He's always coach. It's coach first. It's like, Dr.
Rory Farrell
He coach you, though. Like, he shows how he could be.
Malcolm
That's coach.
Rory Farrell
One of the greatest athletes of all time.
Malcolm
That's Coach Prime.
Rory Farrell
Okay, my bad.
Malcolm
He was in.
Rory Farrell
I know you were such a Colorado fan.
Malcolm
He was in a hospital room with Karrueche, and I felt like that didn't get the attention that I was so confused by that I was like, again, that was the Leonardo moment. The, like, yo, that's what the nobody like, come on. Did I miss the part where Deion Sanders and Karrueche are dating? Did I miss that?
Rory Farrell
I'm deadass. I legitimately thought that was AI. I was like, all right, they're getting very tricky with this.
Malcolm
Okay, so Complex posted. I guess somebody asked him about Karrueche, and they're saying he cut the interview short, citing a bad connection after rumors surfaced and a video showed Tran emotional in a hospital at the san. At this Coach Sanders cancer diagnosis. Yeah, I'm just. What is happening? What is going. What is going on, man?
Rory Farrell
Where did they meet out of this relationship?
Malcolm
Where did like it would make now if Shador walked out the tunnel and was with Karrueche Makes all the sense. Get it? Shador Young, you know, do your thing.
Rory Farrell
Cool.
Malcolm
But pops Coach Prom. Like in Karrueche, I just. We know now. I know better than most because I'm a little older than y'. All. Dion, he's that guy.
Rory Farrell
Prime is that greatest ever.
Malcolm
One of the greatest athletes, one of the biggest personalities in sports, biggest sports figures we've ever seen. And somehow I'm still not familiar with his game. Karrueche dawg Prom. This is better than when them diamond turfs dropped. When the diamond turfs dropped, we went crazy in the hood with the diamond turfs. The Karrueche rollout Coach prom and Karrueche rollout beats, pumps and the bumps. The Deion Sanders MC Hammer. All of that shit is to the back burner when it comes to finding out Coach Sanders and Karrueche are dating. And that's what a question mark, because I don't even know.
Rory Farrell
Happy birthday to. To Coach just passed August 9th.
Malcolm
Happy birthday.
Rory Farrell
58 years old, Karrueche, which I appreciate that she doesn't lie about her age. She looks incredible. 37 and beautiful.
Malcolm
Beautiful, incredible. I'm just saying.
Rory Farrell
I thought 21 years is like, I don't know.
Malcolm
I thought I knew all about Coach Prime's game. I thought I was seeing them all. His greatest plays, his greatest highlights, his greatest interceptions. We know he got hands.
Rory Farrell
Here's my thing.
Malcolm
I just didn't know his game. I didn't know.
Rory Farrell
Here's my thing. I just don't know how I'd feel. This went back to the Bill Belichick conversation we were having, even though that's drastically different than this one. This is 21 years. This makes the Belichick look like Christian. But I. If you're somebody's pops, like, no, I'm not meeting your boyfriend that's the same age as me.
Malcolm
Okay. Okay.
Rory Farrell
Yeah. Like, that's never gonna happen. Like if. Like if. If. If amara at. At 37 years old, got a boyfriend and he was like, yo, man, yo, I used to listen to pod every day. Would shoot like, no, get the fuck away from me and get the fuck away from my daughter. Yeah, that's a grown woman. That's a grown woman with her own income. She can do whatever the fuck she want. I'M not. I'm only speaking from a very small father perspective of two and a half years where I would just be like, dude, get. No. Get out of my fucking house.
Malcolm
Yeah, I get it. I just. I just thought it was.
Rory Farrell
I don't care if you're Deion, Sandy.
Malcolm
None of us have ever spoken about that. I haven't seen anybody speak about it. I don't know if people even care to speak. I just. I just thought that that was one of the most random things that I had seen. You talk about keeping a relationship private. We had no idea.
Rory Farrell
And the way you even announce it, of just crying at it, like, wait, hold on. We need to see y' all hold hands first.
Malcolm
I'm watching the video with Coach.
Rory Farrell
You look like you in his will.
Malcolm
I'm watching the video with Coach talking about overcoming. I'm like, damn, Dion, he just. He just had to get, I think, like, five or six of his toes amputated a couple years ago. So it's like, damn. Like, he just got over that. And it's like to find out that he just had to. Had to be bladder cancer.
Rory Farrell
Yeah.
Malcolm
So I'm like, damn. And then to see him talking, like, he like, yo, you know me. I don't know how you know things. We'd be fighting, you know, try to keep it private with the family. Emotional. I'm like, damn. Like, to see. You know, this is Deion Sanders, bro. This is one of your childhood heroes.
Rory Farrell
I'm like, him having bladder cancer already was like, damn. And then. But then it happens to Karuchi crying in the hospital.
Malcolm
I'm like, bro, what the Is going on out here? Like, I had. And again, I know I miss. I don't subscribe to a lot of. I don't see. When half of the world sees it. I catch that very late. I don't know if anybody knew about this outside of his family. I don't know if anybody knew about Karushi India.
Rory Farrell
Forget dating.
Malcolm
I don't even think people knew. Karruechi and Dion knew each other. I had each other's phone number. So to see her in the hospital room, emotional with him, it's like, bro, what the. Did I. What is happening out here?
Rory Farrell
God willing, I'm alive when I'm 60, and you're alive when you're 70. And I hit the group chat. Josh still there. Peach still there. Demerit's still there. We getting ready to record. And I say, yo, I just saw a video of Amara with Lamar Jackson in. In. In the Hospital. Oh, what are y' all saying to me again? I'm not here to judge. Yeah.
Malcolm
Yeah, that's wild.
Rory Farrell
Like, yo, we just.
Malcolm
That's wild when you put it like that.
Rory Farrell
That's not insane to you?
Malcolm
Yeah, that's wild. Putting it like that is crazy. Like, I don't even know that's how.
Rory Farrell
I viewed that whole thing.
Malcolm
I'm like, I think my first question. Where the. Did she meet Lamar Jackson at? Like, where was she?
Rory Farrell
How the. If it was a. A quarterback that was playing at when she's 30 years old, I'd be like, all right. I mean, I get it. I'm sure social media, somehow somebody met somebody, some party. How did you meet Lamar Jackson? He's.
Malcolm
Oh, my gosh. Yeah. I don't know.
Rory Farrell
Lamar would be a hilarious lamara.
Malcolm
Yeah. I don't know. I just thought. I just felt like that was some personal. I just wanted to bring to the.
Rory Farrell
Room and just a personal shit because.
Malcolm
I was so confused. I was like, yo, did I miss. And then y' all were just as confused as I was. So I'm like, okay, so we're all.
Rory Farrell
I really thought it was AI.
Malcolm
So we're all confused together. Okay, fine. I just didn't.
Rory Farrell
It's not. Even if I saw them walking a red carpet or whatever, I'd be like, that's crazy. But that'd be crazy.
Malcolm
But even that makes sense.
Rory Farrell
Whatever.
Malcolm
Yeah, but in the hospital room, to us that he just beat Blatican, I was like, I. I don't know. I was just completely thrown off. That was a curveball.
Rory Farrell
Coach Prom, like, we found out you peed cancer.
Malcolm
Salute to Coach prime, man. Yeah, man.
Rory Farrell
He's, you know, simulation.
Malcolm
I don't know. But I'm glad to know that Coach is recovering and he is cancer free.
Rory Farrell
You guys are gonna get me in trouble with all my actual friends that are gonna text me with this fucking podcast. Cause I know Aaron, friend of the show who's Karrueche's best friend. We're gonna get a text off that, and y' all are gonna get me in trouble with Chase. I know. With that Travis Scott clip, I'm gonna get fucked up.
Malcolm
I hope Aaron texts me and explain.
Rory Farrell
But Aaron doesn't owe us.
Malcolm
No, I mean, but now that we spoke about it, you know what I'm saying?
Rory Farrell
Like, we love Aaron. Aaron. Aaron is a huge fan of the show.
Malcolm
I met Karrueche. She's super sweet, super nice, great. Like, I'm. I was just like, they shout out to the Team for holding that under wraps. That. That never got out like that to me is. I'm just speaking to. That was just so random. And then the funny shit is it's probably not random. They've probably been dating for a year. You know what I'm saying? So we just found out. But it was. That was just so random. So left field. Sorry for throwing this off track. I just was trying to understand what the was happening in the simulation called the world.
Rory Farrell
Do you think I'll be able to go back to camp in Houston?
Malcolm
Why wouldn't you be?
Rory Farrell
Because we all decided to clip me saying Travis Scott is going to be the biggest fall off in history.
Malcolm
But it wasn't. But with the way you said it, what you was most.
Rory Farrell
Doesn't matter. Yeah, it doesn't matter.
Malcolm
It doesn't. But it does. But you were saying more so. Because Travis's focus is not going to be so music heavy. Like that's what you were saying.
Rory Farrell
It's like you're making sense. And I was making sense. That doesn't matter when people see a clip.
Malcolm
Yeah, but that doesn't.
Rory Farrell
They gonna jump me at camp.
Malcolm
Nobody cares about.
Rory Farrell
Those are all my guys out there.
Malcolm
Nobody. Nobody cares.
Rory Farrell
They're like, why'd you say that? Because I feel that way.
Malcolm
Yeah, that's why. It's like. It's not disrespect. It's just, you know, you honestly feel like. And again, it's because of his. His focus. Travis is not. I don't really think he. Travis makes so much business and money. Like he's. Music is just another thing. Like not saying he doesn't love creating music and performing. He's one of the greatest performers we have in our culture. But I could see again to a point where he's like, you know, I got so much other going on that the music is kind of. It takes a. It takes a seat in the back. Like I can see that.
Rory Farrell
I think the Jackboy's idea is great. I just don't think it's that progressive of what Travis has been doing. And Utopia to me, wasn't it.
Malcolm
Don Tall was his artist. Right. Is that his artist?
Rory Farrell
I don't know contractually anymore where that was. But yeah. I mean Don was writing a lot of the. That I love from Travis. I don't know if it's the same anymore.
Malcolm
I think Don Toler is so underrated.
Rory Farrell
Yeah, no, he's.
Malcolm
I think he's. I think he's so underrated. Like, I don't think. I don't think people talk about Don Toliver enough, like he's extremely talented.
Rory Farrell
The way Don Toliver is to Travis, I feel, is the way Leon Thomas was to tie. And I think again, Ty and Travis, both icons in their own right. I think their predecessors are going to pass them just the way time does. Now the shit works. Like, yeah, I think it's just time for the people that were your prodigies to move to take your spot was that.
Malcolm
That was made in America. We saw Don, right? He. He went on before Bad Bunny. That was incredible. Like, I. I was kind of worried when they say, yeah, Don Todd was going on before Bad Bunny. I'm like, I don't know if that's a good idea.
Rory Farrell
I mean, if you saw his performance, you could clearly see he's definitely got a lot of sauce from music. Incredible. But also a lot of sauce from Travis and how he performs like that set was incredible.
Malcolm
It was dope.
Rory Farrell
Either way. Chase Aaron, I don't know. I'm sorry.
Malcolm
It's all love, man.
Rory Farrell
It's never all love. When you say we ain't gotta agree with everything.
Malcolm
God damn it. We ain't gonna agree with everything. Some gonna feel a little weird and we gonna talk about it and we're gonna try.
Rory Farrell
Now me and Peach can't go back to the spot.
Malcolm
Go anywhere, man. Go anywhere, man.
Rory Farrell
That's true. Because I mean, you carry a gun in Houston.
Malcolm
Even if you can't, you can go anywhere. There's no way you can't go, bro.
Rory Farrell
I don't see that's. That's like the last final words to a lot of people. You think you could go anywhere now there'd be places where I'd be like.
Malcolm
I should not based off of saying you think Travis is gonna have the biggest fold.
Rory Farrell
Yeah, but now people take things. People are emotional people. And I'm not saying Chase or anyone like that, but people crash out to show their the worst.
Malcolm
They don't have somebody crashing out on you because you said you feel like Travis Scott is gonna have. That is crazy. You know how crazy that. Yo, what happened? Why they up? Yo, Somebody saw Rory, said Travis gonna have a major fall off and homie saw him and just. What? Yeah, no, that's nothing to crash out about.
Rory Farrell
I mean, I. I prefer. I would prefer that over somebody like lying about checking energy.
Malcolm
No worry.
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Rory Farrell
Mall. We talked about it last week. Did you catch live golf in Chicago?
Malcolm
I did catch some last weekend, yes.
Rory Farrell
You weren't wrong with your predictions. Joaquin, he's. He's still in the mix. I think everything's going to be okay.
Malcolm
John Ram is. He's. He's cutting into the. He's cutting the chase down, though. He's cutting into the. He's gaining some ground, though. He's definitely gaining ground.
Rory Farrell
But. But I'm still going to give you your credit. You're still batting a thousand.
Malcolm
I think. I think Joaquin will win it. I think he'll win this. This tournament. Sure.
Rory Farrell
I saw that Colin was out there. Here's my thing. Do we think Colin hit like the DJ area after? Like, do we think Colin was. I think Colin moving his hips to bad and bougie.
Malcolm
Yes, absolutely.
Rory Farrell
You think he was really over there?
Malcolm
Oh, yeah.
Rory Farrell
He just say, I'm just going to grab a drink real quick. And then just ended up front row. I want to see that footage. Colin. Yeah. Where were you during the DJ portion of the golf event?
Malcolm
Yeah, it's dope though, that they have DJs at, you know, golf events because it get a little stale and kind of slow. If you out there, like really on the course, watching the. Watching the players play, it's like you need music. You need some type of entertainment to, you know, keep people engaged.
Rory Farrell
Yeah, I mean I respect the golf culture, but also it's only sport where you have to be quiet like every other sport. They get louder when you have to shoot your shot.
Malcolm
Yeah.
Rory Farrell
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Malcolm
Do we have voicemails? You've got mail. Sponsored by Boost. What's going on, Roy? Mall Demaris. I love the show. I have a lengthy home record question, so let me get right into it. I have two friends and for human sake, let's call them Rory and Maul. Rory had a crush on this one girl ever since we were all in college, but he never shot his shot. He was real passive about it.
Rory Farrell
I have to be this character.
Malcolm
Roy's feeling for this oak for this woman. He comes right in and he has a relationship with this woman and they have a kid together. The breakup was so nasty that Mall and this woman can't even be in the same room with each other without it getting nasty. Fast forward to 2025. We're all in our 40s. We all kind of reunite at a mutual friend's wedding. And ever since then, everybody's kind of leveled up. Rory, he has like a secure, nice, six figure job.
Rory Farrell
Oh, thanks, man.
Malcolm
Single, he's leveled up. You know, mom, he's moved on.
Rory Farrell
He.
Malcolm
He's. He's married. He has a second child with his, you know, new marriage. And old girl also moved up as well. She's doing really good, too. Long story short, Rory and old girl kind of reunite and catch up during the reception. Roy gets inspired, and he feels like he wants to shoot his shot.
Rory Farrell
Finally getting inspired.
Malcolm
I tell him it's not a good idea because at the end of the day, that's still Mom. That's still Mall's baby moms, and I feel like that's just wrong. Rory's justification is Mall and old girl hate each other. You know what's wrong with that?
Rory Farrell
He also feels like it makes it even worse.
Malcolm
If anything, let me at least talk to Mal about my intentions first. So is Rory out of line in this situation?
Rory Farrell
Yes. What the.
Malcolm
Yeah, once. Once you have kids with a woman and like your home, you can't. You can't go behind your homeboys. And. And no, no.
Rory Farrell
We've even spoken plenty of times where I just find it odd sleeping with the same. Even if it was just like a. Sleeping with the same person that my man's did. If you have a kid with, like, it wouldn't even enter my mind to do that. Yeah, that's nuts. Even if we haven't spoken, like, let's say, and. Because they said they're in the 40s, so.
Malcolm
But you ain't spoken 20 years, though.
Rory Farrell
Yeah, no, for sure. But I'm saying, even if they're not.
Malcolm
Friends, is it cool?
Rory Farrell
Hell no.
Malcolm
Okay.
Rory Farrell
That's nasty as.
Malcolm
No, I agree with you. I'm just saying, like, some people would be like, yo, but if they wasn't friends. Is it.
Rory Farrell
There's. There's friends I've fallen out with that I would never again even think about somebody right, let alone had a kid with. But just. What. I don't know how that could enter your mind would even.
Malcolm
No, I stick to me. No. Yeah. No, he's. He's.
Rory Farrell
To answer your question, enemies that I wouldn't even their girl because it's like we was friends. That ill. Like.
Malcolm
Yeah.
Rory Farrell
And I know it's supposed to be the misogynistic podcast because Damaris is in here too. To me, that's also corny because now you like just using a woman as a way to get back at stuff. I don't know. I just don't like that. Type of shit.
Malcolm
Yeah. No, I get it. To answer his question. Yeah. No, he's. He's filed for that. He can't. Nah.
Rory Farrell
And you're all at the wedding too.
Malcolm
And then he's saying, yo, he gonna holla at him to talk to him. Like, yo, you know me and your baby mom's been like, how's that conversation even go? He's like, yo, talk to. What do you mean, talk to him? Like, what is that conversation?
Rory Farrell
And even.
Malcolm
Yes, me and my baby hate each.
Rory Farrell
Other, but like, not even like, he was fucking. I'm gonna go up to him, be like, yo, he wants to shoot a shot at your baby mother. I might ruin that reception.
Malcolm
Yeah.
Rory Farrell
Just off GP of like, wait, hold on. I'm not. I've moved on in my life. But you're not about to. Just. You asking me if he could go shoot his shot at my bm.
Malcolm
Yeah.
Rory Farrell
At a wedding.
Malcolm
Yeah. And the funny thing about it.
Rory Farrell
Don't. But also, like, why. This is a creepy ass setup.
Malcolm
No.
Rory Farrell
Did anyone even ask her if she's interested?
Malcolm
The funny is I feel like he's one of the gentlemen.
Rory Farrell
Yeah. Oh, this was.
Malcolm
I don't know which one he is. I'm trying to figure out. In his home. I think he's the one that wants to holler at the girl.
Rory Farrell
Was that not obvious?
Malcolm
I'm just saying, I. I mean, I don't want to just put that on his jacket.
Rory Farrell
I'm putting it on his jacket. Confidently that he is the person that says, yo, I got this friend, but I'm talking about myself and put it on us. Yes. He is the guy that, at 40 years old, he's the guy that wants.
Malcolm
To date with the. Sleep with the baby.
Rory Farrell
With the baby mother. Yeah.
Malcolm
Damn. I hope not, man. I hope, I hope.
Rory Farrell
Why do you think he's asking? Because he knows he's wrong.
Malcolm
No, I believe he's one of the guys. But. I think he's the. But he don't sound like he got kids, though. He don't sound like he mad.
Rory Farrell
Wait, what's that sound like?
Malcolm
Struggle, depression.
Rory Farrell
Fair. You can see it in my. You can see in the wrinkles under my eyes. Not. Wait, but the. But me in this instance, you're married and moved on. No, I have.
Malcolm
Oh, yeah, you married and moved on, has another kid.
Rory Farrell
I have. I have six figures to play with. Like, I'm, I'm. I'm throwing money at the wedding. Like, yo, it's an open bar, but I got you. Like, I'll pay for the drink. Like, I'm that guy there, so I think that's him.
Malcolm
Okay, so he's the one that wants to sleep with the baby mom.
Rory Farrell
All right, 100 either way.
Malcolm
Don't do it, man. Don't do it.
Rory Farrell
But then if you think reconsider.
Malcolm
Read some litter. They show on the subject.
Rory Farrell
They both know that they both there. No, I've never heard that song. They're both there. So that means that the kids have to be with a babysitter, so she's free that night. There's so many other women. You could fold so many women. Like, why you gotta go find.
Malcolm
Go find a woman that is. Doesn't know. Know none of your friends. Like, that's very easy to do. Like, yeah, you don't. Don't do that. That's. He's. He's filed for that. He's definitely fine for that.
Rory Farrell
Correct me if I'm wrong. Did he like her? Well, I did. I like her in college.
Malcolm
Yes.
Rory Farrell
So this is like the ghost of pass that he never got.
Malcolm
This is the ghost of the best.
Rory Farrell
Man, but the opposite. He never beat, but he wanted to be like he liked her. And then his man's. Ah, wait, hold on now we're getting deeper into this. He may hold resentment because he probably told his man's, yo, I like her. And then his man swooped in and got her pregnant. And he feel away now, but that was supposed to be his queen his whole life. So 20 years passes. Everybody's single.
Malcolm
It's not your queen. So that's it. Well, I see, I. I see you trying to put the whole play together in your mind. Let me stop right there.
Rory Farrell
Was it more Chestnut's queen? Because it was.
Malcolm
Yeah, but they didn't have a baby together. That's true. Yeah, that changes it.
Rory Farrell
Yeah, that.
Malcolm
That just. That right there changes it. You could have dated, had sex. Cool. Once you have a family. Nah, you can't do that, bro.
Rory Farrell
I'm trying. They're like, freshman year, there was, like, girls that me and my friends would compete with, like, in a. Not a funny way, per se, but, like, we all understand that that's a pretty chick. That's cool. Holding on to that 20 years later is insane. Like, yeah, like, you know, he just got to Plymouth Rock first.
Malcolm
He got the Plymouth Rock.
Rory Farrell
Like, I don't know. Like, you just gotta, like, you gotta deal with that.
Malcolm
Yeah, don't do it though, man. Please.
Rory Farrell
Like, holding on to that 20 years later.
Malcolm
Yeah, he want that. He want that bad. But if my thing is if you wanted it that bad, why you ain't never. Because he said he never approached her. He never, like, in school, like, he never, you know what I'm saying? Like, tried to date her. He kind of tucked his feelings, whereas other homie went straight at her like, yo, what's up? Like, I, like, I want to date you.
Rory Farrell
Yeah. That's where I think you can't hold on to that because you didn't make a move.
Malcolm
Let it go. Yeah, let it go. Wasn't no other women at the. At the wedding, at the. Because they saw each other.
Rory Farrell
There wasn't more women at y' all college.
Malcolm
Yeah, like, just don't do that, man. Leave that girl alone. Well, tell your friend if it's. Well, we talking because we know it's him. Yo, don't do that. Don't do that.
Rory Farrell
Don't try. Don't try to put us as the scenario in that story.
Malcolm
Do not sleep with your friends. Baby moms. That's gonna make things very complicated.
Rory Farrell
And then at the weird. At a wedding.
Malcolm
Yeah, no, no, don't do that. Please don't do that. We got another one. That was it.
Rory Farrell
Hey, y', all, it's K from Atlanta.
Malcolm
Quick question.
Rory Farrell
I know y' all fly a lot.
Malcolm
So I wanted to know what kind.
Rory Farrell
Of songs do y' all put on your flight playlist and if you listen to music. Because I think one time Demira says she doesn't listen to music while cleaning.
Malcolm
Which I think is absolutely insane to be sleeping.
Rory Farrell
Did she say that?
Malcolm
With no sound? Just the sound of Bruno, but still. Love you, baby.
Rory Farrell
Love the hair, love everything.
Malcolm
But I would love to know, like.
Rory Farrell
What type of song, what genre?
Malcolm
Like, what do you like to listen.
Rory Farrell
To when you're on a flight? Maybe a long flight versus a very short fight.
Malcolm
I don't know.
Rory Farrell
And lastly, I gotta.
Malcolm
I have a bone to pick. We have to stop with the NY bias, okay? Some of the albums y' all hate.
Rory Farrell
On are actually good. Like, I feel like there's different sounds for different moments. Am I going to be listening to.
Malcolm
Jack voice 2 if I'm trying to put somebody on a rapidly ramp rap? No.
Rory Farrell
Okay. Let God sort him out. But Jack Voice 2 is not a bad album.
Malcolm
Anyways.
Rory Farrell
Would love to know what type of songs y' all listen to when you're flying and.
Malcolm
Yeah. Love y'. All.
Rory Farrell
Bye. All right, well, that's ironic.
Malcolm
I don't love y'. All. I don't know why I said that. I like y' all a lot. I respect you.
Rory Farrell
Whatever I'm not.
Malcolm
I fuck with K. I respect. Okay.
Rory Farrell
Yeah. No, I don't love y'.
Malcolm
All. No, I. Yo, K. Like, I don't love you. I don't even know why I said that. Like, I like y', all, though. I like Y a lot.
Rory Farrell
I respect. We.
Malcolm
We respect that. And we like you a lot, too.
Rory Farrell
Ironically, with the Jack Boys two thing, that's where I think things get misconstrued. We always have a NY bias. Like, how else to definition of a bias?
Malcolm
Like where I'm from.
Rory Farrell
But I didn't dislike Jack Boys too, because it wasn't rapity. Rap. Rap like the clips. I compare Travis's catalog to his catalog.
Malcolm
Yeah.
Rory Farrell
No other catalog. I thought it was low for his catalog. I. I don't look for Travis for any rapidly rap. I lose my mind if Travis tried to rapidly rap. Yeah, like, what the is you doing? So to get that out of the way, her first part on a plane. I'm definitely not listen. If you listen to Jack Boys 2 on a plane, you're a psychopath and air marshal should take you off.
Malcolm
It depends on where you're going. I think the music you listening to on your flight depends on where you're going.
Rory Farrell
Like, how you in the air.
Malcolm
No, I just think it's a mood like that.
Rory Farrell
You.
Malcolm
If you land, if you want, you know, you're going on vacation. Like, I'm gonna go to the islands and chill for a couple days. Like, I think your playlist is different if I'm going to Atlanta for the weekend. Absolutely.
Rory Farrell
When I land, for sure. I agree there, but in the air, no.
Malcolm
Yeah, in the air. You got to get in that zone, man. Now if it's turbulence, I'm going. Kirk Franklin. The whole flight, I'm going. Now behold the lamb on. On repeat. Yeah. Hey, hey, Kirk. If you get an uptick and now behold the lamb, just know that I was taking one of them long flights, and it was. It was some chop along the way. How to probably say some chop. It was some chop along the way.
Rory Farrell
In the. In the words of Wolf of Wall street, you don't know shit about chop. But the amount of voice notes, when it gets, like, turbulence goes crazy, I get on my quiet voice note. Shit. The amount of voice notes and text messages that I've just put in notes that have never been sent because I've been paranoid on a plane, like, should be its own coffee table book. Wait, I have, like, legitimately, like, said my piece to people on certain flights.
Malcolm
You know why I know you're crazy. I've always known you were crazy, but this information, let me tell you why you're. You think they would find that phone?
Rory Farrell
No, no, I would send them. Like when. When it starts getting bumpy. Like I told you, I've been on flights. We had air pockets and people's shoulders were separated. Like, there's been time. I've been on some crazy flights. Yeah, I had sitting there like, yo, the moment this goes, I'm hitting send. Not that they're gonna find my.
Malcolm
You think it's gonna go through?
Rory Farrell
Yeah, I think. I think the Wii field still work.
Malcolm
You did that WI Fi? Yo, he's crazy. That WI Fi. If the plane is going down, I promise you, your voice note is not making.
Rory Farrell
But it's also my peace of mind of like thinking when I'm about to die, at least, like, maybe I could get my thoughts off to somebody.
Malcolm
Okay, I get that. Like 9 11, we see the documentaries.
Rory Farrell
They're calling when they use their full names. When you call your mother. Yeah, you know, like, I would call my mom, be like, hey, mom, it's Rory Farrell. Yeah, you talk about those. Those calls from 9 11.
Malcolm
You.
Rory Farrell
Those.
Malcolm
Those are the calls I'm talking about. When you had. The phone was on the back of the seat. You had to get the credit card, swipe it.
Rory Farrell
Hey, mom, those calls. Hey, mom, it's Rory. Yeah, Pharaoh.
Malcolm
Yeah, yeah, Pharaoh, naturally. What other Rory would it be?
Rory Farrell
They think we're so dumb.
Malcolm
It's crazy.
Rory Farrell
But, yeah, I've done that plenty of times on planes.
Malcolm
Yeah, no, I listen to. I listen to music depending on where I'm going. I love listening to new music on long flights because it just helps, you know, I'm have nothing else to do. I'm either sleep or the music is playing in my ear so I can hear it and kind of get into the music a little more. But it changes for me again. If I'm going to vacation, playlist is a little more, you know, R B, little mellow. If I'm going to LA for BET weekend, I'm listening to Rayvon the whole flight. If I'm going to, you know, because it's. You're supporting, I'm supporting.
Rory Farrell
And listen, like we always have.
Malcolm
I'm always just trying to keep the.
Rory Farrell
Same energy just of supporting.
Malcolm
Always just supporting. That's all I'm doing. I'm supporting my people.
Rory Farrell
You are keeping the same energy.
Malcolm
But yeah, depending on where I'm going, I listen to the music based on. I know it's weird or it May seem weird. I'm sure other people do it too. But depending on where I'm going, where I'm headed on the flight, it depends on exactly what I'm listening to.
Rory Farrell
Does altitude make y' all more emotional?
Malcolm
I will say this.
Rory Farrell
All right, so I'm. I'm not alone, right, Peach. Yeah. Altitude makes me more emotional. Like, there'll be certain movies or music that I've listened to a million times. There's something about altitude that just maybe it's the less oxygen in your brain. It's like. Or more oxygen because it's being fed through the same vent. I don't know. Go on Joe Rogan's podcast and you can figure out why. I'm just saying I feel more emotional on a plane.
Malcolm
I will say this one of the most beautiful songs to listen to when it's like you taking one of those morning flights and it's sunny out, you know, you get above the clouds, and you see nothing but just blue sky and sun. Fancy by the dream. Oh, my God, I feel like a homosexual whenever I play that.
Rory Farrell
So I was gonna bring up an example of me bawling my eyes out watching the Amy Winehouse documentary on a flight I didn't know. Fancy got you there, bro.
Malcolm
Listen to Rory, listen, because you laughing at me.
Rory Farrell
I know.
Malcolm
Listen. The next flight you take. The next flight you take. I'm talking about those sunny morning flights is nothing. As soon as you get above the clouds and it's like, yo, I didn't even know it was a whole nother airspace above the clouds like this, and it's just blue and sun. Put Fancy on by the dream, and I dare you not to cry. It is the most glorious, beautiful piece of music you will ever hear in your life at 30,000ft.
Rory Farrell
I'm. I'm going to try it, but every time, like, like, I played, like, March 15th and cried on. On plane. Like, I've. I've purposely listened to, like, really emotional music. I'll give it a go with Fancy, bro.
Malcolm
Listen to Fancy Bottom.
Rory Farrell
But, like, what, like, which part of the song, like, gets you there? Like, what. What is the one I don't like?
Malcolm
It's just the music. It's just like, damn, it's so. It just, it's. And then looking out the window, you see it's just blue skies, and it's just the. The music is just. It just hits you differently.
Rory Farrell
I'm so much smaller than what I, I. I think I am look at.
Malcolm
In the scope of the universe. It's Just like, look at me, right? It's that type of thing.
Rory Farrell
What's fucked up is because you're gonna call me more crazy when I'm on planes. That is like one of the main things when I look out there when I'm like, yo, I do not matter at all. I don't mean that. No. I really don't mean that in depressing ways.
Malcolm
He get window seats so he can think to himself how much he does.
Rory Farrell
Get a window seat. Don't want nobody next to me, yo.
Malcolm
Looking out the window.
Rory Farrell
Like, my dude was talking.
Malcolm
I do not matter.
Rory Farrell
You know, I usually say things in a depressing state because I talk about that a lot. I don't mean that in a depressing thing. It's actually more of like a relief.
Malcolm
Yeah.
Rory Farrell
Of like, dude, this, like, so many things.
Malcolm
Dude, it's so. Look.
Rory Farrell
What the flat, like when you fly from New York to la, the. That you just fly over. Yeah. Of the hundreds of thousands of stories of the little people down there.
Malcolm
Yeah.
Rory Farrell
It's like, though I. My life does not matter that at all. Like, I'm over stressing about my life. And that's why I think altitude puts things in perspective. Like, yeah, we're supposed to be up there. Because I've never understood why you have to go 30,000ft. Like, just put me at 10,000ft. Just give me there quicker, which I'm sure it's probably. You can go quicker when you're higher up there.
Malcolm
Well, private jets don't fly that high. They don't go 30,000ft.
Rory Farrell
I've never been on a private jet my life.
Malcolm
Yeah, it's a little low. It's about 20. 20,000ft. I'm guessing because even when you're on a flight, you never look out the window and see, like.
Rory Farrell
Oh, yeah, for sure.
Malcolm
Yeah. So they.
Rory Farrell
But I just assume that was like. I mean, since DEI is hit, I don't know with the control towers.
Malcolm
But I assume we don't know who's in those towers.
Rory Farrell
Yo, how does your party, like, really view D? Like, they think they just really be like, hey, yo, yo, if you a woman, just come fly these planes, bro. Like, that's how they think D work.
Malcolm
Oh, my God.
Rory Farrell
Like, nah, we just need to fill the quota. Like, oh, man. Yo, you ever used a MacBook, you could be in the control tower now.
Malcolm
That is fucking hilarious. K, thank you for that voicemail. We appreciate it. All right, man, let's get the fuck out of here, man.
Rory Farrell
Yeah, and if you're listening to us on a plane. It's okay to cry.
Malcolm
It's okay to cry right now. Start crying right now. We'll talk to y' all soon. Be safe.
Rory Farrell
Be blessed.
Malcolm
I'm that nigga. He's just ginger. Peace. No worrying now. Ugh.
Rory Farrell
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Podcast Summary: Episode 396 | God Doesn't Like Podcasts
Hosts: Rory Farrell and Malcolm
Released on: August 12, 2025
Description: New stories, new laughs, new random hot takes that no one asked for... New Rory & Mal
Skipped as per instructions.
Rory and Malcolm kick off their discussion by examining the current state of the music industry in the streaming era. They express concerns over the sheer volume of new releases, questioning whether listeners can maintain a deep connection with music amidst constant digital distractions. Rory reminisces about the past when listeners would immerse themselves in entire albums, fostering a stronger emotional bond with the music.
Notable Quote:
Rory Farrell [19:53]: "I'm listening to music on my phone. So now if I got all these other things happening, there's like this connect. Like, I hear the music, I hear it like I'm listening to the album, but there's no, like, the connection or the order."
The hosts delve into a detailed analysis of JID's latest album, "God Does Like Ugly." They praise JID's lyrical skill, intricate production, and the album's homage to classic hip-hop influences like Andre 3000 and Outkast. Malcolm highlights how the album's construction reflects the meticulous attention to detail reminiscent of 90s hip-hop records.
Notable Quote:
Malcolm [37:56]: "He really got in his, you know, soul loop. The soul sample... this album was incredible."
Rory shares his mixed feelings about Bryson Tiller's "Vices." While acknowledging Bryson's significant impact on the R&B genre, Rory criticizes his foray into the "Sexy Drill" sound, feeling it detracts from his established artistry. They discuss the potential reasons behind Bryson's strategic release of similar tracks and its reception among fans.
Notable Quote:
Rory Farrell [43:37]: "I just don't... it'd just be any sexy Drill beat from the Bronx. Like, I feel like I could find that beat on YouTube."
Injecting humor into their conversation, Rory and Malcolm brainstorm an unconventional documentary idea focusing on West Indian nannies working in affluent neighborhoods. They discuss cultural stereotypes and the unique dynamics these nannies bring to their roles, suggesting it could be both entertaining and insightful.
Notable Quote:
Malcolm [10:02]: "But even, like, that's why they're the best nannies, because it's in a middle aged West Indian woman's nature to hold it down."
The discussion shifts to Cardi B's upcoming release, "Imaginary Players." Rory and Malcolm express frustration over leaked information and speculate on the possible repercussions for Cardi B's rollout strategy. They analyze the potential impact of these leaks on the album's reception and Cardi's control over her music's presentation.
Notable Quote:
Rory Farrell [53:45]: "It feels very slapped because how outside came out is because it leaked."
Rory and Malcolm address recent news about Deion Sanders battling bladder cancer and his relationship with Karrueche Sanders. They discuss the public's reaction to these revelations and the personal struggles faced by high-profile athletes dealing with health issues.
Notable Quote:
Malcolm [79:08]: "So to see Coach Sanders dealing with bladder cancer and his relationship with Karrueche Sanders, it's like, bro, what is going on?"
The hosts review Shador Sanders' debut in an NFL preseason game, commending his performance under immense pressure. They emphasize the importance of supporting athletes in their formative stages and acknowledging the intense scrutiny they face.
Notable Quote:
Malcolm [86:04]: "He put on a solid performance. He did... he looked good, looked comfortable."
The episode features voicemails from listeners presenting personal dilemmas. One scenario involves Rory's friend, Roy, contemplating pursuing a relationship with his ex-girlfriend at a mutual friend's wedding despite past conflicts and existing parental responsibilities. Rory and Malcolm advise against such actions, highlighting the complexities and potential fallout of rekindling old relationships in sensitive contexts.
Notable Quote:
Malcolm [115:35]: "Don't do it, man. Don't do it."
Rory shares his unique experiences of how music influences his emotions during flights. He reflects on the sense of insignificance yet emotional relief music provides when soaring above the clouds. The hosts discuss the role of music in enhancing flight experiences and maintaining emotional balance during travel.
Notable Quote:
Rory Farrell [124:45]: "I feel more emotional on a plane... thinking, you don't know shit about..."
The episode concludes with Rory and Malcolm summarizing their key points, emphasizing the necessity to support core music fans amidst the evolving landscape of music consumption. They also touch upon upcoming events, such as live golf tournaments and cruise performances, reinforcing their connection with listeners and setting the stage for future discussions.
Notable Quote:
Malcolm [125:44]: "We'll talk to y' all soon. Be safe."
This summary captures the essence of Episode 396, highlighting the main discussions, key insights, and noteworthy moments between Rory Farrell and Malcolm. It provides an organized overview for those who haven't listened to the episode, ensuring a comprehensive understanding of the topics covered.