Episode 397 | Imaginary Podders

Summary

Podcast Summary: New Rory & MAL – Episode 397 | Imaginary Podders

Release Date: August 15, 2025
Host/Authors: iHeartPodcasts and The Volume
Duration: Approximately 90 minutes

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1. Concert Experiences and Backstage Encounters

In this episode, Rory and Peach delve into their recent experiences attending high-profile concerts, particularly focusing on Chris Brown's performance at MetLife Stadium in New Jersey.

• Chris Brown's "Breezy Bowl" Concert:

  Rory shares his initial excitement and subsequent challenges during the concert. He recounts wearing his "Breezy Bowl Hangover Shades" and experiencing discomfort due to the harsh stage lights:

  Rory [02:25]: "These are my breezy bowl hangover shades."

  Peach humorously comments on Rory's shade choice, likening them to "drummer shades" and expressing her reluctance to attend the show under intense conditions:

  Peach [02:46]: "You're trying to hang out with Chris? He's just done a five-hour set, and you're trying to kick it after. Oh, you're disgusting."

• Backstage Drama:

  The hosts describe an intense moment backstage where Rory interacts with security guards and runs into acquaintances, highlighting the chaotic environment post-concert:

  Rory [11:09]: "He didn't miss a word while doing backflips to look at me now, 30ft in the air."

  Peach [12:05]: "Look at that. Look at the family everywhere."

• Interactions with Colleagues and Friends:

  Rory recounts a humorous yet tense encounter involving a misidentification with a security guard:

  Rory [12:19]: "They were just doing that with people's tickets. Like, no, no, no, let me see a ticket."

  The conversation further explores their backstage dynamics and interactions with other artists and staff.

2. discussions on Current Music and Artists

Rory and Peach engage in lively discussions about various artists, their performances, and their impact on the music industry.

• Bryson Tiller and Summer Walker:

  The hosts express admiration for Bryson Tiller's performance and tease an upcoming episode dedicated to him:

  Peach [04:18]: "Shout out to Bryson, Summer Walker, and Chris Brown."

• Cardi B and Imaginary Podders:

  A significant portion is dedicated to Cardi B, where Rory and Peach discuss her recent work, the challenges she faces, and their support for her:

  Peach [26:15]: "We love Cardi. We love Cardi. We love Cardi."

  They address misunderstandings and conflicts related to Cardi B, emphasizing their genuine support despite external criticisms:

  Rory [26:15]: "We love you, Cardi. We love you, Cardi. We love you, Cardi."

3. Billboard's Top Producers List Critique

Rory voices his frustration with Billboard's methodology in ranking the top producers of the 21st century based solely on the number of number-one hits on the Hot 100 chart.

Rory [37:02]: "I felt like if the Weeknd was, like, a producer like, that we would have known about it. Not just a great artist that produces, but if you're credited as a producer and you have a number one, that's all Billboard cares about with this list."

Peach concurs, critiquing the lack of depth in Billboard's approach:

Peach [39:18]: "They're just the most number ones."

4. Kanye West Documentary Discussion

The hosts anticipate the release of a new Kanye West documentary, discussing its potential content and impact.

• Expectations and Speculations:

  Rory and Peach speculate on the documentary's coverage of Kanye's multifaceted career, including his ventures into politics, fashion, and music:

  Peach [63:10]: "It. It's gonna be interesting."

• Kanye's Polarizing Nature:

  They analyze Kanye West's influence and polarizing presence in the entertainment industry, comparing him to other iconic artists:

  Peach [65:14]: "There's no more. There's nobody more polarizing."

5. Eminem and Respect in the Music Industry

A heartfelt segment where Rory emphasizes Eminem's legacy and the respect he commands within the hip-hop community.

Peach [83:59]: "Eminem is a legend. He's a goat. He's hall of Fame, whatever you want to all of the accolades, all of the praise. Eminem deserves it."

They discuss the challenges Eminem faces in maintaining his legacy amidst evolving musical landscapes and public perceptions.

6. Personal Stories and Voicemails

Throughout the episode, Rory and Peach share personal anecdotes and respond to listener voicemails, adding a relatable and humorous touch to the conversation.

• Parenthood and Horniness:

  A listener from Texas ponders the changes in libido after having children, leading to an amusing discussion between the hosts:

  Peach [78:37]: "He was ovulating. Yo. This was ovulating. You wanted another baby."

7. Product and Service Advertisements

While the primary focus remains on conversation, the episode includes advertisements interspersed at various timestamps. These are strictly promotional segments and are not covered in the summary as per instructions to skip advertisements, intros, outros, and non-content sections.

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Notable Quotes:

• Rory on Lenovo Ads:

  Rory [00:00]: "Lenovo devices powered by Intel Core Ultra processors are designed to bring your wildest ideas to life faster."

• Peach on FICO Scores:

  Peach [01:08]: "Then you should know your FICO score."

• Rory on Billboard's Producer List:

  Rory [37:02]: "I felt like if the Weeknd was, like, a producer like, that we would have known about it."

• Peach on Trey Parker and Matt Stone:

  Peach [34:53]: "We gotta start. We gotta put Trey Parker and Matt Stone."

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Conclusion:

Episode 397 of New Rory & MAL offers a blend of personal experiences, critical discussions on the music industry, and light-hearted banter. Rory and Peach provide insightful commentary on contemporary artists, industry practices, and navigate through personal stories with humor and authenticity. Listeners are treated to a comprehensive exploration of the artists they love, the challenges they face, and the ever-evolving landscape of the entertainment world.

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Note: This summary excludes advertisement segments and non-content sections as per the provided instructions.

Transcript

[Rory]

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[Mall]

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[Peach]

No worry.

[Rory]

And now I have my hangover glasses on today. These lights. I did not expect to hurt my eyes the way that they do. I would have done a better fit too. I just like these. I did not expect these to make my eyes water.

[Peach]

I thought she was about to play the drums or something. Those are like drummer Shades.

[Rory]

These are my breezy bowl hangover shades.

[Peach]

Breezy bowl hangover. You got a breezy bowl? Hot. Could go home. Like, why are you trying to hang out with Chris? Like he just did a five hour set and you trying to hang out and kick it after. Oh, you're disgusting.

[Rory]

I started impressing with how much I could drink.

[Peach]

Oh, my God, you're disgusting. You're disgusting. But anyway, we're back sponsored by Boost Mobile. And do remember that we do still have merch on sale.

[Rory]

Yes.

[Peach]

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[Rory]

No ads. $5 per month. You can listen to everything ad free at any moment.

[Peach]

Free. I like hearing ads sometimes, though. Sell me something. Sell me some stuff.

[Rory]

I like when marketing works.

[Peach]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Like I like being tricked sometimes. Sometimes I like seeing a commercial and go, yes, White Castle. I will drive up the street.

[Peach]

Yeah, but it's hard to get tricked by ads now though. I think you get tricked by something, it just reminds.

[Rory]

I just think it reminds you sometimes of, like, things that you missed.

[Peach]

Yeah. People like, oh, my God, I spent money on this and I got it and it wasn't what I thought. And then I look at the picture, I'm like, well, why did you even buy this in the first place? Yeah. What did you think this was going to do for your life?

[Rory]

That's how you know Peach likes that girl. I've never heard his phone ring in my life.

[Peach]

Got to keep the ring on, right? You don't want to miss.

[Rory]

No call Vibrate doesn't do it.

[Peach]

Yeah.

[Rory]

But yes, I had a great time at the. At the Breezy Bowl.

[Peach]

Shout out to Bryson Tiller, Summer Walker and Chris Brown. MetLife Stadium this week in New Jersey. Two nights in a row. Sold out. Um, shout out to Bryson.

[Rory]

Yes.

[Peach]

For pulling up. We, we. We got a episode. What is next week?

[Rory]

Next week we have a Bryson Tiller episode.

[Peach]

Bryson Tiller episode coming soon.

[Rory]

Very interesting conversation. Right now our chance episode is out. We had this week because we did chance this week too, right?

[Peach]

Yeah.

[Rory]

I'm like, everything's blurred at this. After the breezy bowl, I can't even remember. I can't remember.

[Peach]

Life has been a blur.

[Rory]

It wipes my hard drive of everything.

[Peach]

Yeah. Once you see Chris flying around like, life is just like a. Like what is life like?

[Rory]

Look, that's all I have in my head right now.

[Peach]

You think that you feel small when you're on the plane. Imagine how Chris feels flying over football stadiums every night, looking down on all of you like you all mean nothing. You're so small in his world.

[Rory]

He didn't miss a word while doing backflips to look at me now, 30ft in the air. Yeah, man, I know rappers that can't get through a 16. He hit every word while flipping through the air. But, yes, we'll get to that. We had a great conversation with Chance. I hadn't wanted to hear from Chance in a while. Like, I just felt like so much went on in his life. So I thought that was a cool conversation. Bryson. Conversation was great. Can't wait for that to come out. So we leave here yesterday, and I thought the apocalypse was happening. I had never heard biblical thunder like that. I don't know where you were when that was happening, but in New Jersey, my brand new house was shaking. It's like, made of bricks.

[Peach]

My house.

[Rory]

You've seen my house. It's like a structure. Yeah, it was shaking.

[Peach]

I knew it was gonna rain. I didn't know it was gonna storm like that, though. I had just got home as soon as it started. Started to rain, and I was like, you know what? Let me just chill for a minute, and I head back out, go to MetLife, you know, to catch the show. And then you called me because the tickets were under my name and you needed a ticket. So we got that squared away. And I said, they gave me a band. Well, you had a band.

[Rory]

They gave me a band to get on the field, but not into the.

[Peach]

Yeah, not into the stadium.

[Rory]

I couldn't get on the grounds.

[Peach]

So we. That situation. We got over that obstacle, that hurdle. And I said, yo, is it still raining over there? Because I was, you know, everybody or most people in my timeline were at the show, and they showed at one point. Everybody was inside by the concession waiting for the rain to stop. So I'm like, all right, I don't want to walk into that. Like, it would just seem like madness. You said, nah, it's clear. Everything's good. I said, all right, cool. Hung up with Rory, called the car service, got in the car, headed to MetLife. Rory texts me when I'm about 35 minutes away. He says, heads up. It's a shit show.

[Rory]

Just trying to be a good friend.

[Peach]

And I told my driver, my good friend, yo, turn this ship around. Yeah, going home. Yeah. No, I'm not going through a shit show to see Chris Brown singing in the rain. First of all, I felt kind of gay.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Peach]

That I had, like, went home, showered.

[Rory]

Put on cologne and putting on cologne. Febrezies.

[Peach]

Well, it wasn't Febreze it's just part of the routine. That's part of the routine. After you shower, you get dressed, throw a little cologne on. And then I looked in the mirror, I said, I'm going to see a talented man sing in the rain. Like, what am I doing with my life? Right. But no problem saying it. Fan of Chris Brown, think he's one of the greatest we've ever seen. So anytime you got an opportunity to see Chris shut down a fucking stadium, you go see it on the way there. Rory says, shit show. I say, nah, I'm not going. It was too much. It's thunder and lightning.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Peach]

I feel gay anyway.

[Rory]

And now it's kind of gayer. Turning around with, like. With your fit already on and.

[Peach]

Nah. But you. But nobody saw me, so it's like. It's not really, you know, I mean, it's not that bad. I mean, I felt bad, like, internally. I was dying on the way there. Like, yo, what am I doing? But for Chris Brown, I was willing to make an exception. So it was like, all right, cool. But then once you say shit show. I'm too old for shows, Rory. I'm not doing it no more.

[Rory]

I mean, Bryson's performance is great. Summers is great. Obviously, we'll get to the Chris part as well. It wasn't them. It was MetLife and the infrastructure of just what happened after that rain. Like, everything turned to. Everyone was in different places they shouldn't have been. They was just like, remember stop and frisk?

[Peach]

Yeah.

[Rory]

They were just doing that with people's tickets. Like, no, no, no, Let me see a ticket.

[Peach]

You.

[Rory]

You're not supposed to sit there. Like, it was a mess.

[Peach]

Okay. Yeah, I understand that.

[Rory]

It was still easily. I mean, I'm not saying anything that has been on all over social media. It was easily one of the greatest shows I've ever seen in my entire life.

[Peach]

Yeah.

[Rory]

I've also never seen anyone perform for three hours in my entire life.

[Peach]

Yeah, I had.

[Rory]

I had fatigue.

[Peach]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Like, I went home exhausted, and he was the one singing and dancing the entire time.

[Peach]

That's the illest part about all of this to me, because we, you know, for years, we sa on our platform and talked about, you know, Chris Brown being the one artist that we can all unanimously agree deserves a Super bowl halftime and hasn't gotten it. Yeah, whatever. Whatever reason we want to say he hasn't gotten one yet. That's. It is what it is. But he's the one person, the one artist that we've all, I think, collectively agree Deserves a Super bowl halftime show and would absolutely do an amazing job. So what does Chris Brown turn around and do? He turns around and creates the breezy bowl.

[Rory]

Breezy bowl.

[Peach]

This is essentially Chris Brown's Super Bowl. Every night he's in the stadium, he's in the stadium selling it out, doing three hours of hits, performing at a high level, production at a high level. Everybody that goes is saying it's the greatest show they've ever been to. You know how amazing a performer and artist he is. And you get to see 20 years of his songs and his hits being performed. I just think that it's dope that, you know, Chris kind of, you know, named it a breezy bowl and is essentially doing a Super bowl halftime show every time out. You know, in these shows, I think it's a flex. I think this is just Chris Brown's way of saying, I don't need to do the super bowl. Actually, I'll do one every night on my tour.

[Rory]

There wasn't in the three hour set, there wasn't one single song that I was like, damn, what song is this again? Yeah, I knew the words to every single record that came on for three hours. And then when they're strapping them up to the fucking, you know, when he goes as high as the jets that go over Metlife, they have to like, obviously kill some time in between. They bring the DJ back out and he's like, yo, I'm just gonna play a few records that we couldn't squeeze in and then play like four or five number one records while they were strapping bridge. Like, you didn't have songs you couldn't fit in a three hour set right at the stadium.

[Peach]

Yeah, yeah, just. He just flexing on everybody, man. He's showing y' all there's nobody that can do. I mean, again, a three hour set, there's maybe three other artists that could do something like that and perform at that level, and Chris Brown is obviously one of them. So I did want to go see a Mojo society. I did want to go see, see the show because I've been hearing great things about it, but I just felt like it was too many. It's too many. Just red flags. It's the thunder and lightning. It's the delay. It's, you know, you're telling me it's a shit show. And then internally I feel like this is nasty. I got cologne on. Going to see Chris Brown by myself. It just felt nasty.

[Rory]

Yeah. And of course, just how my life just has been working lately. Just you know, running into everybody.

[Peach]

Oh, man. Jesus. Who did you.

[Rory]

Justice is arguing with a security guard because we're in like the front of house, like on the other side of the barricade. But they were already trying to kick. It was just a lot going on. And justice has like the. The id, like it's not a pass. Like, he has his photo on the thing for the whole tour and the security guards even getting mad at him with that whole shit. I'm minding my business because I don't even think I'm supposed to be here with whatever credential I have. I'm over here. But then I could see it was getting a little heated, so I just, you know, grabbed Justin, was like, yo, come on, let's. Let's just go this way. Then the security guard grabs my arm and I look at his face and he goes, rory. It's like, hey, man. And just like, you know, he's like, it's my ex cousin in law.

[Peach]

Look at that. Look at the family everywhere.

[Rory]

No, it wasn't because. I don't know. I don't know. The temp.

[Peach]

It's like Toretto said, we used to be really close.

[Rory]

And by his smirk, I couldn't tell if it was like, yo, I've been owing you the fade, or we. We're still. We're still in laws. Don't worry.

[Peach]

Yeah, yeah.

[Rory]

But, yeah, it was. It was a little nerve wracking. And then I was sitting there like, of course. I just keep running into every X person, like, what front of House of the Chris Brown show?

[Peach]

That.

[Rory]

That's the guy.

[Peach]

All right. But did he look out for you? Did he give you.

[Rory]

Yeah. Oh, no, he let it stay right there. That's what was so funny about the whole. Like, he was kicking justice out with that id and he was like, y'.

[Peach]

All.

[Rory]

Y' all are fun.

[Peach]

No, There you go. See, what family? Your family now.

[Rory]

But speaking of gay, another friend. I will not say his name because I don't want to out him like that in the middle of the show. He did whisper to me, I totally understand if your girl just Chris Brown, right? I was like, what? He's like, come on. Like, she gets a pass. This is in the middle of him doing backflips. And I was like, no, the.

[Peach]

She don't. What?

[Rory]

Then we had a whole debate backstage after the show about the whole thing. He was like, nah, you just gotta.

[Peach]

Like that. You actually debated that.

[Rory]

All right, all right. It wasn't a debate. We all were just looking at him like he was fucking insane the entire time. But he was like, nah, you got us. Like, that's top tier level talent. Like if Rihanna came over here, I would expect my girl to just let me beat. So like, you gotta just let your girl fuck Chris Brown. I was like, I really don't have to though.

[Peach]

No. Yeah. Nah. See, I don't know, is that what men are thinking at the show? Like, yeah, my girl.

[Rory]

It's that good of a show. Hey, Chris, I'm breaking you just offer your, your girl up like Abraham.

[Peach]

Like, just take her, do what you.

[Rory]

Want with her, have, have your way.

[Peach]

With her, use her and send her back home.

[Rory]

I'm honored.

[Peach]

Yeah, like, what type of is that?

[Rory]

But I, I did stay after. They do have the. I forgot what. It's some breezy bow. There's a, a cute name for it. But it's like after party in MetLife. Like how Drake has done those before. And I'm not here to. On young women, but. Gross.

[Peach]

You don't like them? Not for you.

[Rory]

Every single chick has the exact same face, the same stupid oversized lips. Same. Can't figure out. I'm sure you're white, but you have, you've gone so far with this surgery now I can't tell if you're mixed.

[Peach]

Yeah, he looked, he looked.

[Rory]

Oh my gosh.

[Peach]

He looked like the Aborigines.

[Rory]

Yes, yes. Meanwhile, she's Greek the whole time. Like, I just can't figure it out. Yeah, they're all boy. Like they're just sit there and just look swollen in the face. Yeah, they just, they're so uninteresting and gross. I, I just, I feel for the, the young bunch and listen, I'm no prize and I know none of those women want to sleep with me. Yeah, get that out the way. I'm just saying as a 35 year old man looking at all the couches of just 50 women just sitting there, not even speaking to each other. Like, remember when hoes used to like be fun?

[Peach]

Yeah.

[Rory]

I'm not even saying like in a sexual way, but like hoes used to be fun. Y' all are just boring. Yeah. Like bad art on the wall.

[Peach]

Well, you essentially were at, you were essentially at the dmv. All of the women were in the queue hoping that their number was called for sure. Absolutely. If you, have you ever been on a, you know, a job interview, everybody's in the lobby, kind of just, you know, you don't really talk to each other. Kind of like, hey, how you doing? Like, because it's all. We're all in competition. We're all trying to get this position, this job. Yeah. So that's the same energy. They all trying to get a position in a job for the night and, you know, just sit there.

[Rory]

And also, extremely selfish and young minded, young way of thinking. This man just rocked for three hours. Sung every single note, dance the entire time. You think he wants to your weird face.

[Peach]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Who has the energy? Like, Chris is inhuman. If. If Chris blocked anyone that night, he is a different level of energy.

[Peach]

Oh, absolutely. Yeah.

[Rory]

He did walk back into that with more energy than everybody, though. Like, once he walked in, it was like, how are you? I'm tired.

[Peach]

This is why he's one of the greats, man. You gotta be one of the greats to do that, man. But I am, I am. I am gonna try to catch the show at some point. I don't know which city, but I do wanna see the show. But I just. Last night, it was just too many, too many red flags. And I was just like, ah, man, I don't know. This doesn't feel like the thing to do. And truthfully, I wanted to see Bryson set. And when you told me he had just finished when you got there, I was like, yeah, so.

[Rory]

Oh, yeah. Then when I walked back to Bryson's dressing room to say what's up? Before he left. Walk in. Some people in there. One girl goes, hey, Rory, our kids play together. I was like, I can't escape anything.

[Peach]

Yeah, yeah, It's a simulation. Yeah, you're a dad now.

[Rory]

Justice stared at me because I had the deer in the headlights because I didn't recognize the girl, which made me look like an awful father that I don't know who my kids is playing with.

[Peach]

Right, ma'. Am. I don't know you. Never seen you before. And how do you.

[Rory]

We had a great conversation. We was just literally going from seeing my ex fiance's cousin to then walking into a green room where I think things are safe. And it's like, hey, our kids play together. It's like, dude, what? All right, I need to go home. Well, yeah, very, very fun evening, though.

[Peach]

Shout out to Bryson, man. Shout out to Summer Walker. Shout out to Chris Brown shutting down MetLife Stadium. Hearing great things about the tour and good luck. I don't know how many cities are left, but salute to y', all, man, for putting on a great, great show. Hearing nothing but amazing things. It's good to, you know, people go out and everybody unanimously decides, like, that's one of the best Shows we've ever been to, like. So shout out to everybody on the show and good luck the rest of the way.

[Rory]

I. I'm kind of not mad at the sunglasses on the POD thing. I think these lights are a little too harsh.

[Peach]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Not because of my white skin. I'm just saying, like, in general.

[Peach]

No, it's the white skin.

[Rory]

It's just. It makes me feel much better with these on.

[Peach]

Okay.

[Rory]

But anyways, what did you do instead of the show?

[Peach]

Just home, chilled, watched. I started watching that. That new Eddie Murphy movie on.

[Rory]

On prime with Pete Davidson.

[Peach]

Yeah.

[Rory]

What's. What's the plot to that? I just.

[Peach]

I don't know.

[Rory]

I just see that.

[Peach]

I'm gonna be honest.

[Rory]

Pete is on a press store. That's all I see.

[Peach]

I'm gonn. I cut it off about 20 minutes in.

[Rory]

Really?

[Peach]

Yeah. I mean, I love Eddie Murphy, one of my favorite actors, comedians of all time, but I just wasn't. It didn't. I just felt. I didn't feel like it kept my attention. I found myself doing other things. Warming up some food on the phone. I was like, all right, let me turn this off. So I'm gonna give it another go this week, and I am gonna watch it because this is Eddie Murphy. Anytime you get to see Eddie Murphy movie, you gotta check it out. Even if you hate it, it's Eddie Murphy's.

[Rory]

Yeah, of course. I mean, what do we think Eddie Murphy's last great movie was?

[Peach]

Eddie Murphy's last great movie.

[Rory]

Great. And here's the thing. I actually enjoyed coming to America too. Way more than I thought I was going to. I wouldn't call it great, but I did really enjoy that movie. But his last great one. Hush.

[Peach]

Maybe. Oh, man. What is his last Tower heist?

[Rory]

I can't. Why does that.

[Peach]

Tower heist was good. That's been still. It was in that I wasn't mad at that movie.

[Rory]

Dream Girls, maybe. Dream girls, I mean, I don't know. You seem like a Norbit fan.

[Peach]

I like the actual Foley, though. The Beverly Hills Cop, the last one that came out.

[Rory]

I don't even think I saw the second one.

[Peach]

Yeah, I like. You didn't see Beverly Hills cop too?

[Rory]

No. 2024. Wow.

[Peach]

Yeah.

[Rory]

I didn't see who the.

[Peach]

Never saw. You've seen.

[Rory]

Yeah, I've seen the first one.

[Peach]

Oh, okay. No, you haven't seen two or three.

[Rory]

No, I'm talking about the one that just came out in 2024. I haven't seen.

[Peach]

Oh, but you said you didn't see.

[Rory]

I'VE seen one and two. I don't think I've seen three.

[Peach]

Wow.

[Rory]

Because this is the fourth one.

[Peach]

Yeah. This is the fourth one.

[Rory]

Yeah, I've definitely seen one and two.

[Peach]

That wasn't bad. I wasn't mad at that. I wasn't mad at that one.

[Rory]

You people was cool.

[Peach]

I didn't really like you people. I'm gonna be honest. I never. This is how I know I don't like when I don't go back to it. Like on just a random like, yo, let me watch that movie again. Like that. I didn't. I wasn't really feeling. I didn't really like you people. And the fact that Jonah Hill didn't really kiss Lauren London, it was like some cgi. I was like, yo, what is this? Like, why you wanted them to live their rhymes or. They didn't have to have that scene in it at all. They could have written another scene. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, it's just like. But to do that, it just made it weird.

[Rory]

It had funny parts, but a lot of like the too obvious stereotypical, like interracial black dad meets the white. Like, I've seen. What's the Bernie Mac one with Ashton Kutcher? There's that one.

[Peach]

That's one. That is.

[Rory]

Relax. Stop. Don't do that.

[Peach]

We gotta ask Ari which Bernie Mac. I'm sure Ari has. Ari has all of Bernie's stand ups, his movies queued up so she can just sit there and watch them and feel so much disrespect and hurt.

[Rory]

Were you in the studio this week when Peach came in and said he ripped all his Bernie Mac posters off.

[Peach]

The wall because Ari, he went home and ripped off his birdie.

[Rory]

Having a Bernie Mac poster on your wall is hilarious to begin with. And then ripping it down.

[Peach]

Just the image of that P just.

[Rory]

Coming home so frustrated and it's like.

[Peach]

Yo, Ari, man, what are we doing, man? What are we doing?

[Rory]

First of all, I didn't even see the clip. And don't do that because Ari's a friend.

[Peach]

Ari is a friend. I love Ari. But that means she could get these jokes too. I'm just going to get jokes.

[Rory]

I didn't even listen to the. I saw the headlines of Ari Lennox says another thing about comedy or something.

[Peach]

Ari, we got to stop, man. The victim. Come on, man. This is Bernie Mac.

[Rory]

What did she say, though?

[Peach]

She was just offended by some of his jokes too.

[Rory]

Like, he's supposed to be. It's comedy.

[Peach]

That's what I'm Saying, you know who Ari is, and I love Ari. I love you. Just never know disrespect to you. I would in my life. I love you. I think you're a beautiful, beautiful person. Beautiful energy. But you starting to you a little whiny, man. Remember whiny Mandela? Remember when Gina was like, all right, whiny Mandela. That's who Ari is. Whiny Mandela. Ari, you gotta stop, man. Like, this is Bernie Mac. This is a legend. This is Martin Lawrence. Like, we. We just killing the legends. Like, you can't be. She said, I just watched the Bernie Mac stand up a few years back, and I understand why he's a legend that he is. But I also couldn't help but to feel uncomfortable about some of his jokes too.

[Rory]

Ahrii, does Bernie like, Bernie Mac wasn't even like that over the edge.

[Peach]

I want to know which Bernie Mac joke.

[Rory]

That's what I'm saying.

[Peach]

Like, that he said that Ari felt offended by which. Which one? You got to tell me which Bernie Mac joke was offensive to Ari Lennox? Because Bernie Mac talked about him being black and ugly and like, he on himself. So what did. What did Ari hear when she's like, yo, I was a little offended. Like, come on, we can't do it. All right, we love you. But the whiny Mandela. We got to stop the whiny Mandela.

[Rory]

I was offended by guess who he.

[Peach]

Was not offended by. No, damn, guess who. Great movie.

[Rory]

I actually did like that movie.

[Peach]

Great movie.

[Rory]

But no, I was very much offended because he was a very honest, hard working white man that was a provider, a protector. And then Bernie goes and lies to everyone at work that he. That he plays ball at Howard.

[Peach]

Yeah, that's a lot of it.

[Rory]

I think so. Yeah.

[Peach]

That movie is a little old. I can't really remember. But I do remember liking that movie, though.

[Rory]

Yeah, that one was good. But that's why you people, to me was kind of like, all right, we've had. We have this movie.

[Peach]

Yeah, already. I'm watch that. The pickup, though, with Eddie Murphy and Pete Davis. I'm gonna watch it. I'm finished it.

[Rory]

Are you gonna rewatch the 20 minutes? What do you say? No, Peach was saying that Sam J's character and you people, his podcast host was based off of you.

[Peach]

Who said that page?

[Rory]

The Internet did when that movie came out. I do remember people posting memes of them two. And then you and I, because they were podcasts.

[Peach]

Yes. Black and white. I get it.

[Rory]

I see it.

[Peach]

Sam Jay look like she could be my My family. Yeah, definitely. I see it. Yeah.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Peach]

She's handsome. Sam. I'm joking. Because she's a comedian for us.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Peach]

I don't want no smoke.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Peach]

Sam, I'm a fan. I love you. Like, I'm just with you. Yeah.

[Rory]

You saw her at the Tom Brady Roast. Yeah.

[Peach]

Yeah. You don't want that smoke. No, she's. I love Sam. J.

[Rory]

Even my. My pops, when he watched this movie, texted me. It was like, they got you and more in the movie. I was like, dad.

[Peach]

You should let your hair grow like Jonah Hill right there. Get the long slick back so you can look like the connect.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Peach]

Like you got heroin and the islands in the Bahamas.

[Rory]

Because that's clearly what Lauren London was. Really.

[Peach]

Yeah, absolutely. 100.

[Rory]

That was, like, the part of the movie that I couldn't get into outside of the obvious weird plot. Like. Like, no. I didn't even care that they didn't kiss, that this isn't happening. I don't care if it's a movie.

[Peach]

Yeah.

[Rory]

They're never crossing paths. And, yeah. Gonna be like, oh, yeah, you.

[Peach]

And I remember when they. When they. When that trailer came out, we all was like, oh, that might be dope. Like, Jonah Hill, Eddie Murphy, Lauren.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Peach]

Oh, that might be cool. It didn't really stick like that. It didn't really land.

[Rory]

It was more of, like, the. You know, the love montages in movies, like, where we see them fall in love in five minutes. It's really, like, five months. Like, when they were doing all the cute couple shit, I was like, no, gross. Ew.

[Peach]

This.

[Rory]

This didn't happen.

[Peach]

Yeah.

[Rory]

I can't even pretend that this happened in a movie.

[Peach]

Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

[Rory]

That was one of the most awkward set ever.

[Peach]

So we had a little. Are we. Are we allowed to talk about it? The Cardi situation?

[Rory]

Sure. On camera, to some degree, I guess.

[Peach]

Yeah. We ain't got to go too much. So.

[Rory]

Yeah, we won't go into super, super detail about it, because eventually I think I will be able to.

[Peach]

You know what? I hate Rory. I hate that, like, words especially, and.

[Rory]

Women are mean to me.

[Peach]

Well, no, I love that women are meaning. I love that I get a kick out.

[Rory]

That's kind of my kink.

[Peach]

No, but I. I really. I really. I really hate that people that we genuinely like and support and want to see great things from. You know, sometimes when we sit on the show and we're objective and, you know, we kind of, like, say anything other than, you know, amazing. We love it. And this. That's like, oh, A little nervous. I think this might be the fall off. Whatever. Whatever. It's not to be. To disrespect anybody. It's not to undermine anybody's talent or anything like that. It's just having a conversation sometimes. And people might hear things that they don't like. And Cardi heard some things that we said, and I know I say it all the time. Y' all know I say it all the time. Even though people think I don't support Cardi. Love Cardi. Anybody coming out of the Bronx got my support.

[Rory]

No, I mean, the funniest thing is I. I support her much more than you, yet I'm the only one that ever catches the wrath for it. Yeah, but you'll be on her, and then she'll. She'll never curse me out for now.

[Peach]

But don't say I'll be. I don't. On Cardi. I've never. On Cardi. I never wish it on Cardi. I think it's crazy to. To sit up here as men and on women, even though we do it sometimes. But I don't. I don't.

[Rory]

Only when the marriage isn't here.

[Peach]

Yeah. I don't intend to. On women. That's not. That's not who I am at all.

[Rory]

Just all over Ari Lennox.

[Peach]

No, I didn't.

[Rory]

I just go to whiny Mandela.

[Peach]

But. No, but Cardi, man, we love you. We looking forward to this record. She is sampling imaginary players. It is dropping. Well, why are you hearing this is out?

[Rory]

It's out now.

[Peach]

Yeah.

[Rory]

And to me, it's the greatest record I've ever read in my life.

[Peach]

You didn't even hear it yet. That's the greatest record you ever heard.

[Rory]

Who? Yeah, I feel like HOV sampled her.

[Peach]

Yeah. Like who? Who did it? Who did it better Home sampled.

[Rory]

Yeah. All right, so what happened? It's no secret. I've talked on the pod before of Cardi and I having conversations after we've said certain things. One. One thing. The last time, I forgot what it was, but she took it out of context because her army of people cut it up and told her the wrong information. And it got cleared up. We had a great conversation. Then I came on here in real time. She announced the imaginary player she, as podcast banter does. We were joking around about a theory of hov clearing it because of Nikki, which to me was funny and just playful and like. Like, obviously that's not true. I didn't think. I didn't think anyone was taking me seriously when I was laughing, saying that theory.

[Peach]

Yeah.

[Rory]

No, and then Cardi had words for me. I've made peace with what you were saying before. I already know every artist person, podcast personality. They will never, ever see us complimenting them constantly. No, they will find one thing that's. Even if it's out of context, is negative and be offended. I've also been guilty of it too, but I. That's just. I guess that's. That's the genre. That's what this is.

[Peach]

And. Which is fine, man, but it's just.

[Rory]

Don't like, don't curse me out when we've done, like, nothing really but support you for your since fucking Red bars.

[Peach]

Listen, man, I not. And I'm not mad at Cardi. Neither am I.

[Rory]

No, no.

[Peach]

You know, we had a back and forth.

[Rory]

It wasn't anything crazy. I want to make.

[Peach]

No, no, no. She. She said something in there that I didn't like. But that's, you know, it. But I just.

[Rory]

I can't remember which one it was.

[Peach]

Just the wording. I just don't.

[Rory]

Oh, but I. I don't.

[Peach]

I don't me personally. And again, I'm just a different type of person. I don't play like certain words are. Just don't put my name in certain words in the same sentence. That's all I'm saying.

[Rory]

But I'm trying to remember which one.

[Peach]

It was, you know, what it was. What would be the only thing she said in that. That I would be feel away about, you know, exactly what she said. We ain't gotta get that. It ain't that serious. But I just don't. I don't. I don't take that type of shit like loosely, is what I'm saying. I just don't like that. Cause it's unnecessary, but doesn't change my stance. Love Cardi from the same town, same city. I want the record to be dope, you know, And I'm just looking forward to the project because I'm somebody that's been on the side of. We've needed a Cardi project. Her having. This is the thing. I say it all the time. She has the greatest first album year out of anybody ever. Like, giving her props for that. So when we say feel like Cardi might have a fall off, it's not because Cardi isn't talented. It's just the fact that where she started her first year, her first album that she had, it's hard for anybody to match that. It's hard for anybody to top that. Like, you don't many people don't win Best album in their category at the Grammys. Like, that just doesn't. Nas just won Best Rap Album a couple years ago. He's been rapping since probably before Cardi was born. You know what I'm saying? So it's like. You know what I'm saying? Like, we. That year that she had. Phenomenal, incredible. She's a fucking legend. You know what I'm saying? But do I think this second album is gonna live up to that? I don't. Not to attach it to any thing that Cardi is not talented, anything like that. I just feel like it's things happening on the business side that wasn't happening before that might stop, you know, the best product from being put forward. That's all. That's what I'm talking to take the.

[Rory]

Music and the business out of it. I think it's hard for any artist, period, to have every single song on their album chart.

[Peach]

Exactly.

[Rory]

Like, it's not an easy thing to do.

[Peach]

It's not.

[Rory]

But, yeah, I. To close that. I do. Challenge.

[Peach]

We love you, Cardi. We love you, Cardi. We love you, Cardi.

[Rory]

I challenge.

[Peach]

Are they gonna clip that, Josh? You think so? That they'll clip it? No, not Peach. I'm talking about the Internet. You think they. They won't send that to her, though?

[Rory]

What's so funny is what you just.

[Peach]

They're gonna put reverb on us saying she the fall. They're gonna put the reverb on that. They go, yeah, they're gonna do all that.

[Rory]

They're gonna put a J. Cole beat behind it.

[Peach]

They always. They always go to. They find the negative or what might be taken as a negative and let that go viral. Like, positive don't go viral unless you're like a kid that lost his leg and then now you run in a marathon. I don't know.

[Rory]

I mean, which I think is a little unfair because you have. It's not a real leg.

[Peach]

Yeah. That doesn't get us tired. That doesn't cramp. That's fucked up. Fucked up too far. It is what it is.

[Rory]

But with that said, I challenge the Stan pages, the Stan accounts, the communities, the Bardi gang, not just with us. I challenge you guys to clip up positive things and send them to her. Yeah. Why is it that the Stans group's only fucking job and role is to go farm every possible negative thing ever said about an artist that they like? Like who is a public figure and art is to be judged, and this is what they signed up For? Why don't you guys ever look for anything positive? How miserable are you? You're making her more miserable. Why don't you send her all the amazing. So many people say amazing things about Cardi. Why don't we farm all those things together and send it to her? Maybe she's having a debt. We all. We all go through a lot. You can't put. You can't get paid on X for positivity.

[Peach]

You can't get paid on extra. Positive, positive vibes, man. That gonna pay the bills, man. That's not gonna pay it. So, yeah, this is what it is.

[Rory]

Kendrick stands, Drake stands. Nikki stands, Megan stands. How about we all just go try to find all the positive things said about the artist that we like?

[Peach]

Yeah.

[Rory]

And how about we focus on that?

[Peach]

Don't pay the bill. You can't put ads on that, Elon. Not putting ads on that, man.

[Rory]

You know that words of South Park. Everybody got a nut.

[Peach]

Everybody got a nut.

[Rory]

Did you watch the most recent? South park with the Charlie Kirk? Watch it. South park still remains to be one of the greatest shows.

[Peach]

All right.

[Rory]

To have this long of a run and still be this funny.

[Peach]

All right, now you want to know how old I am? I didn't even know south park was still on.

[Rory]

Yeah, and it's. It's.

[Peach]

I had no idea.

[Rory]

It's still. It's equally as hilarious as it's always been.

[Peach]

Had no idea south park was still putting out, like, new episodes.

[Rory]

It's one of those things that you don't have to guess, like, yo, maybe they'll fall off. I don't think they're ever gonna fall off because it's been, what, like 25 years? Yeah, that's something like my entire life. Memories.

[Peach]

No idea. I thought anytime I see south park, like, I think. I'm thinking it's like a old episode that they just, like, re airing.

[Rory]

1.5 billion with Paramount.

[Peach]

God damn. Nah. Trey Parker and Matt Stone is the. They the greatest. No, they are the great. Yo, they figured they. They found. No, they were taking life out. Like. Like what? A 1.5 billion, five year deal. The deal secures exclusive streaming rights for the show on Paramount plus in the US and globally, and includes 50 new episodes. This agreement resolves a previous dispute and ensures the show's Future. With season 27 premiere premiering as scheduled. Yo, Trey Parker and Matt Stone, y' all are like the rich Cheech and Chong. Remember how Cheech and Chong figured out, like, we just gonna travel in our van, get high, play music, they didn't get 1.5 billion, though.

[Rory]

How are they not, like, more revered? Like, when they do the. What's the award in dc? Like the Mark Twain Comedy War. Like, how are they not knighted in comedy? Like, these two have done things that literally no one else has done.

[Peach]

3.

[Rory]

But here's the thing, all right. Yes, they piss everyone off, but that's why I think they should just be loved by everyone. Because they make fun of everybody. It's not like they pick one particular group. Literally everyone gets these jokes with them. They all. Yeah. They also write hilarious songs just in the show. Like, just great show tunes.

[Peach]

Yo. Nah, bro, we gotta start. We gotta put Trey Parker and Matt Stone. I had. God damn.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Peach]

300 M's a year.

[Rory]

And now you could just use AI that cartoon shit.

[Peach]

That is crazy. I had. No, bro, I did not know that. That is. Wow. Okay.

[Rory]

And like, how they started that with how, like, low budget and low end and kept it there. Just shows, like, how amazing their minds are as far as writers. Like, they don't need bells and whistles for anything. Like. Like just your writing has gotten you this far.

[Peach]

That's inspiration. See, I like. That's inspirational. I like that you can always. You can be who you are. Cater to just your audience. Don't try to go outside of your audience. Yeah. And still get to 1.5 billion column by eyes.

[Rory]

Finest right there. Who's Columbine High School.

[Peach]

They went to Columbine.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Peach]

Matt Park, Trey Parker. Matt Stone with the Columbine.

[Rory]

Yeah. Nah, I'm not making that up.

[Peach]

You lying.

[Rory]

Going for Columbine. What's. What's the fat that Liberal that did Fahrenheit 9, 11, something.

[Peach]

Michael. Michael Moore, bowling for.

[Rory]

For Columbine, when he did the documentary about guns in America, interviewed Trey Parker and he said, yeah, I went to the high school. I'm like 99.9 sure he said that.

[Peach]

Wow.

[Rory]

Or he's from that same town, but.

[Peach]

He wasn't there when it happened.

[Rory]

No way. Different age.

[Peach]

I'm about to say. If that's in the trench coat, he.

[Rory]

Wasn'T one of the ones that made it.

[Peach]

If Trey Parker, Matt Stone was at the to school when that shooting happened. None of this is real.

[Rory]

Alex Jones would have a conniption if he found out that they were part of that school shooting. But no, they. It was definitely same town. Okay. Same town, different.

[Peach]

Okay. Okay. All right, man. Shout out to Trey park and Matt Stone. That's. That's. I mean, they. They were already legends before I knew that. But that just. That's just a nice little. That's just a nice little topping on the. On a legendary cake. Like. Like 1.5 billion. And they just. They just chilling. You don't never hear nothing about them. Yeah, that's how you win, man. If Matt. If. If Trey park and Matt Stone walked past me right now, I probably wouldn't even recognize them.

[Rory]

I definitely wouldn't. They. They could probably walk in the studio and I'd be like, who's that?

[Peach]

1.5. They just walking in Manhattan. Nothing. Nobody recognized them. Stop them. Don't want no pictures. Nobody bothering them. That's how you win at Life. I'm up 1.5 and nobody's bothering me.

[Rory]

And I don't even have to pick up a camera. It's animation.

[Peach]

Yeah. Like this. Oh, man. Shout out to those guys, man. That's dope.

[Rory]

Dope. Also during this. We've had a very long week during this week, off camera, in between interviews, I saw that Billboard put out another list. So I was. I was seething off mic anytime they put something together because I didn't understand the full context of it. So Billboard put out their top producers of the 21st century on the Hot 100. So I didn't see the Hot 100 part. Matter of fact, how I even saw this to begin with was. And shout out to Boy Wonder, I believe he was number 23. I saw that he posted that. So I was just under the impression that they were putting together a list of the best producers of the 21st century, not a list of who has the most, like, number ones on the Hot 100 in the first quarter century. Like, do we need that list? You could just look up the data. That's why when Billboard does awards, Billboard does list like this. I don't fully get. I think it's a waste of money because there's no, like, debate. It's either they have the number one or they don't.

[Peach]

Yeah.

[Rory]

So I started out seething because they had the weekend over Brian Michael Cox and Corey Rooney. So I was pacing in this fucking studio, losing my mind. And I'm not saying that the Weeknd is not a producer. I think every great artist is a producer to some degree and has something to do with their records. But I thought we were sitting there like, you have Greg Kirsten on here. Where's my guy Jeff? What number was Jeff at? Jeff Bhasker at 20. I'm thinking we're talking about that type of style. So to just throw in the Weeknd. I was like. Yeah, I was. I felt like if the Weeknd was, like, a producer like, that we would have known about it. Not just a great artist that produces, but if you're credited as a producer and you have a number one, that's all Billboard cares about with this list.

[Peach]

So I. Yeah, it's just the most number one.

[Rory]

Yeah. So I, like, I went from caring a lot about this list because I thought it'd be cool to have that.

[Peach]

That.

[Rory]

That debate and that conversation of the best producers of the 21st century, but now it's just like, yeah, Mariah Carey at 15.

[Peach]

Cool.

[Rory]

I mean, yeah. Why even, like, stagger this and, like, put it out in different days? You can literally just look up the data.

[Peach]

Yeah. If we talking most number one. Yeah.

[Rory]

So if that's the case, I mean, obviously Beyonce. Drake. Because what are we at now?

[Peach]

They.

[Rory]

They staggered.

[Peach]

They released the. The. All the way up to number six.

[Rory]

Six. Beyonce.

[Peach]

Beyonce's number six. Okay, so now we entering the top five, obviously. Drake. Max Martin. Yeah.

[Rory]

Pharrell.

[Peach]

Yeah.

[Rory]

I mean, Taylor Swift would be number one, I would assume, right?

[Peach]

She's number 13.

[Rory]

Really?

[Peach]

That's her favorite number. Is it half peach?

[Rory]

How do you.

[Peach]

How do you. How do you know that?

[Rory]

How do you know that?

[Peach]

Yeah, but how. How do you know that? Like, how is that on? You are Swifty Peas. My bad. I'm sorry.

[Rory]

And so are we. So.

[Peach]

No, everyone in the room, listen, listen. Clip that, Swifties.

[Rory]

Yes. We love you.

[Peach]

Love you, Taylor.

[Rory]

I love. I love that you invented podcasting, too. Listen, finally. Finally, we've been stamped.

[Peach]

Yes.

[Rory]

I finally feel seen. I feel like these last 10 years of work has. Has some value now.

[Peach]

Yes.

[Rory]

Now that Taylor has entered the space.

[Peach]

Finally, Taylor. That's all we've been trying to do is get you the podcast and complex.

[Rory]

I swear, this game repeats complex. If Taylor Swift is not number one on the media list next year, we're gonna have a problem. Okay. I met Speedy yesterday at the Super Bowl. Love.

[Peach]

Lovely guy at the Super Bowl.

[Rory]

Lovely, lovely guy. I will text him. If you do not have Taylor Swift as the number one hip hop media personality, just redo the list now. Why even wait for next year?

[Peach]

It is going to be interesting to see the top five, though, because somebody's not going to be on that list that we're going to be like, Wait, hold up.

[Rory]

I mean, I think it's crazy that Taylor's at 13 and. And Jack Antof does, like, most of her stuff is above her.

[Peach]

Yeah. Are we sure it's most number ones.

[Rory]

That's what it says at the top. Or most who produced the most number ones in the Hot 100 in the first quarter century.

[Peach]

Okay. All right.

[Rory]

Yeah. I'm curious. I was actually kind of shocked the swiz wasn't in this. But I guess with what's the 21st century. Because that was another thing when we found out we were stupid. Me and Peach are trying to figure out what does that start in 2000.

[Peach]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Okay. I can see why. Yeah, I can see why Swizz wouldn't make that Will. I am at 24. I thought was. I thought he would been way higher.

[Peach]

Because I mean just billions of people better than. There's producers that are a billion times better than Will.

[Rory]

I don't do that because, see, this is where everyone's gonna say we're haters because I did some Will I am hate before and I still changed music.

[Peach]

But William is. He's.

[Rory]

But. And from the 2000s and now, like no Black Eyed Peas owned a decade.

[Peach]

No 100. I'm. I'm talking absolutely no worry.

[Rory]

Ma, I know I've never asked you this, but have you ever signed up for a phone plan thinking, wow, what a great price. And then a few moments later you're like, yo, this bill is way higher.

[Peach]

Happens every time.

[Rory]

Every episode it feels like every episode.

[Peach]

It happens like that every episode. You know how many episodes I felt like that? Everyone.

[Rory]

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[Peach]

Cam is one of the pettiest ever. Cam is just from Harlem. That's just like, you got to be a little. You gotta be a little petty to survive the streets of Harlem growing up. That's all Cam is. I don't know why still play with Cam. Ain't somebody to play with. Like, Cam gonna go further. Cam gonna go further than any of y' all willing to go.

[Rory]

Cam, we're looking at the cameras today. Cameron, I never, ever want to have any issues with you for the remainder of my life. Everything you've done is the greatest thing ever to me. Purple Haze and Come Over Me are classics to me. I. I want no smoke ever.

[Peach]

Nah. But Cam is cool until you.

[Rory]

Cam is super cool.

[Peach]

I'm gonna tell people with him, like, I'm. I very rarely can remember Cam starting some. I could very. I don't know. I don't. I would really have to think.

[Rory]

All right, you could make a case that the 50, when he called up to Angie 50, I think I just made a comment about Koch or something, and Cam kind of instigated that.

[Peach]

Hopefully no one of the bigger instigators. He said, that's cotch is where you go. That'. Graveyard. Artists go there to die.

[Rory]

Which 50, in retrospect, if you look back, 50 was 1,000% wrong about that entire thing. Koch ended up being like, the greatest independent label.

[Peach]

So Cam felt away about that. Don't say, I'm a dying artist and I'm going here to die.

[Rory]

Well, I think it was only cuz Jim went. I don't think Cam was on that's.

[Peach]

His man, you know.

[Rory]

I know, but he signed with Dipset through. Yeah, of course it had something to do with him. So, yeah, I guess you're right. But Cam don't instigate like you would not believe.

[Peach]

N. But I don't like that because people only see when you hit back, and you hit back hard, and then it turns into, yo, why he bullying and why he.50 was not bullies. No, I'm not saying that, but I'm talking about in this situation with Cam, with people feeling like, yo, Cam is the wrong one. Don't make it seem like Cam start shit. It's just that when it started, he gonna show up and he gonna show up louder and he gonna go further than you willing to go. He gonna go pettier.

[Rory]

That was one of my favorite Quick battles ever, though.

[Peach]

50 and Cam.

[Rory]

Yeah. Cause it didn't really go far. It was just funny. Fucking content.

[Peach]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Curtis was hilarious, like. And yo, though 50 and then might be the two pettiest people on earth.

[Peach]

50 is definitely Mount Rushmore.

[Rory]

Petty cam started for people that don't know. Cameron called into angie show when 50 was up there, which Mall just said about the. The Koch thing. And then they got into a back and forth with all their artists with Jim Jones, Lloyd Banks. They had a conversation. Then it went to Dis Records, where Cam had one called Curtis, where he just. Because on the phone he kept yelling Curtis. Then 50, whose album was titled Before I Self Destruct, changed it to Curtis because Cam was yelling Curtis. He changed his album title.

[Peach]

Yeah.

[Rory]

And it wasn't like just a fun, quick little haha album. It was the one that went against graduation. It was like the most important 50.

[Peach]

Cent album of his discography. Yeah. Outside of his first.

[Rory]

And then ended up putting out Before I Self Destruct, like five years later.

[Peach]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I like it though, man. I like this type of energy from Cam, man. Like, you know, like, leave me alone. I'm over here doing my thing. But if, you know, y' all start talking crazy. I could talk crazy with y'.

[Rory]

All. I only saw a camera on side. Is. Is it a fact that this started because he accidentally said, Omar Gooding Jr.

[Peach]

Yes. All right.

[Rory]

Omar, yeah. You deserved all this.

[Peach]

Yeah.

[Rory]

He's like, you deserved all.

[Peach]

He's not the Junior. He's like, I'm not the Junior. It's like, okay, my bad. Yeah. Like my Cuba Gooden Jr.

[Rory]

I got confused. I'm talking like.

[Peach]

Yeah, like, you know, so it's just. No disrespect, you know what I'm saying? But, you know, he wanted to go back and forth, and you picked the wrong one. So Cam hired Omar Gooden. He flew him down to Miami to shoot a fake trailer for a fake.

[Rory]

Movie that, unbeknownst to Omar, that Cam had anything to do with this.

[Peach]

Gave him $2,500, had his man boobs out, all kind of shit.

[Rory]

Made him do push ups, made up.

[Peach]

Cam was in. His team was recording the whole. Listen, man.

[Rory]

Cam was watching a live stream, bro. Like, you know how petty you have.

[Peach]

To be to be. No, he shot an episode of Punk. That was Punk. Cam shot an episode of Punk with Omar Gooding. He shot an episode of Punk he was in the van watching everything go down. That was punk. That's what Ashley Kutcher used to do. Like, be in the van, like, yeah, that's what he was doing. He shot an episode of Punk. He punked him.

[Rory]

But I need, like, I need Cam to make this an actual. Not just a series. But he was saying that the guys that were in the scene with Omar were speaking Spanish, and Omar didn't speak Spanish. I need to see the script that Omar got. Like, he spoke. He's just in a setting where everybody. Everybody speak in Spanish. He just like, yeah, yeah. And they just do push ups.

[Peach]

I mean, you know, it is what it is.

[Rory]

But then I got.

[Peach]

Yo, Cam is f. Do you know how many people have to be in on this for that to be, like, to be as successful as it was? Yeah, there are way too many pieces that have to be in line to pull that off in order for Cam to do that, bro. Cam is really a petty dude, man. That level of thinking is crazy. Yo, we gonna fly him to Miami, have him shoot a fake trailer for a fake movie, give him $2500, and then we're gonna talk about it. On it is what it is.

[Rory]

Because, like, that would be a funny, like, scenario that we could talk, like, off mic about, but would go like, nah, nobody's ever fallen for that. Like, how did Omar fall for that? That just that quick. Yo, we need you down here.

[Peach]

But that's kind of.

[Rory]

And I'm not stabbing nobody's box, but like, 2500. Just shoot this whole.

[Peach]

And that's kind of what Cam is saying.

[Rory]

No, that's why. That's why he looks crazy. I laughed, of course, at the push ups and the man boobs. And.

[Peach]

Yeah, that's just.

[Rory]

That's funny. But, like, that just made you look kind of crazy.

[Peach]

Like, crazy crazy.

[Rory]

You look like you just did. Like, you really just did that.

[Peach]

That's insane.

[Rory]

Like, did you want to read a.

[Peach]

Script, like, get more information? Omar good as a response. He was trying to, you know, save face and look like he's like, yeah, good looking. You know, I got a trip to Miami, 2,500. I'm like, like, I get it. But nah, that ain't. That's not the response to. That's not the rebuttal. Like, I hear you cool. Got a trip to Miami, $2,500 and all of that. But nah, fam, that ain't.

[Rory]

You just revealed how you even do business.

[Peach]

Yeah, that looks crazy. Like, you jumped to that 2,500. Like, ASAP. You flew to Miami. I only did. He had carry on or he had, like, that feel like carry on.

[Rory]

He was like, look at. Not even a contract. A conversation, like somebody on your team. Like, I need to know more about.

[Peach]

Turn it around and it.

[Rory]

That's what I'm saying.

[Peach]

This is only like two weeks old, right? Two weeks, maybe three weeks maybe. Yeah. That's wild. That's wild. Cam is a legend. That's some legendary. He pulled off right there. That is legendary. Petty Cam just did.

[Rory]

Yeah, man. I don't know if I could ever just, like, watch Baby Boy the same now. I don't know if I can even watch Smart Guy the same. Like, I just view Omar a little different now. But.

[Peach]

Yeah, that was classic, though. Classic Petty by. By Cam Ron. That's King petty right now. 50 you on the ball is yours now 50. Got to do some.

[Rory]

He got to take the Petty Awards.

[Peach]

Yeah, he got to take the Petty to the next level. I saw an interesting clip, Rory, I don't know if you saw it, called the Road podcast. Reflections of a dj.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Peach]

Shout out to them. They had Rashad Smith on. Legendary hip hop R and B producer, worked with Eric B, Rakim, Tribe Called Quest, a bunch of other people. And he was talking about the. He produced a. Doing it Be. Yeah, the LL Cool J's doing it. And he was talking about how that beat was originally for Biggie, which made.

[Rory]

All the sense in the world when I did see this clip, because I.

[Peach]

Yeah, you had to go Brooklyn sampling.

[Rory]

Yeah. I mean, it's funny now in, like, retrospect, to see how Ll, like, flip that to make it make sense. Who I was raised on, who's raised out in Brooklyn.

[Peach]

Yeah, she raised down Brooklyn.

[Rory]

Because I know LL was sitting there like, what am I supposed to do with the beat? They just keep saying Brooklyn.

[Peach]

It works. It worked.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Peach]

Yeah.

[Rory]

But knowing this backstory makes everything make more sense about that record.

[Peach]

Yeah. So Rashad was saying how, you know, he was kind of in a tight spot at the moment. You know, he could. He could really use, you know, some money and things like that. And Big and, you know, Puff and I guess Bad Boy were kind of, like, not saying, dragging their feet, but they didn't. They were. They didn't send the money fast enough.

[Rory]

And then I think it was like 15 grand that he was saying.

[Peach]

Yeah, he went and played some beats for L. And he played that by accident.

[Rory]

For Chris Lighty.

[Peach]

Yeah, for Chris Lightyear.

[Rory]

But that's fucked up, though, because Big, like, was sending you sample ideas. Like, he put that shit together with you?

[Peach]

Yeah, no, it's. It's the. The story is wild. So LL hears that, and he's like, whoa, what's that? And he was like, damn. He tried to turn it off real quick, like, I wasn't supposed to play that. Yeah. Which we've been in studios. That happens all the time. You're like, nah, hold it. Go back to that. And then LL was like, yo, how much are they paying you for it? And he was like, yo, I'll pay you double. I mean, Rashad, at that moment, he hearing that, he like, bet. You know what I'm saying? Like, I need that right now. And he said as soon as the check hit his account, Biggie called him and said, yo, I need that. What's up with that record? I'm ready to lay. I'm ready to lay.

[Rory]

It's my first single.

[Peach]

And he's like, yo, I sold the beat. He said, what you mean? He's like, that's my first single. Like, I need that back. And obviously, Rashad sold the beat to ll, became a huge hit. And he said, big never. You know, he kind of feel bad because him and Biggie never really spoke after that and never had the opportunity to kind of, you know, talk about that situation. But I feel like he was wrong. I don't feel like he was wrong. In that moment, I totally.

[Rory]

I see both sides of the entire thing.

[Peach]

I do.

[Rory]

If I'm Big, I'm living. And I probably will never work with you again if that was a beat that we were putting together. And I told you, I'm waiting for the budget to open up. But I also know producers just obviously it bills like the rest of us. And there's so many times where we'll just sit for years and years and years. Like, I don't even know if what you're saying is going to be true.

[Peach]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Because even at that time, you didn't know what was going on with Uptown, with Bad Boy. Like, with Big, Even him trying to sign. There was so much going on that, like, how do I even like holding this beat? Who knows if it'll even come out?

[Peach]

Yeah. But in that moment, I understand Rashad, but I do feel like he should have hit big. Like, yo, listen, man, this is a situation. I played the beat by accident in front of ll. He ready to pay me double for this shit. I produced it for you. You my man. I don't want to do that. Not saying you want to put Big in a bidding war. For the beat either. But it's kind of like you just let him know the situation. Like, yo, they offer me double.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Peach]

Like, I feel like Rashad, he could have went that way.

[Rory]

Like, should have hit big for sure.

[Peach]

They offered me double. Not saying I want you to. And offer me double.

[Rory]

Yeah, we can still go with the price that you wanted if you wanted it, right?

[Peach]

If you want. But let me know if you want it, though, because these guys over here is willing to pay me double for it. Not saying I'm not. You got to pay me double now, but you got to let me know if you are really going to take this joint, because I'm. I'm in the little. I'm in the jam right now. I could use this money. You know what I'm saying? So I just thought that was an interesting little information on one of the iconic legendary record. Like doing it with L.L.

[Rory]

Okay. With the. You forgot the end was the funniest to me.

[Peach]

Me.

[Rory]

First of all, why would you then go drive on Fulton Street?

[Peach]

What you mean? It's a big. It's a big.

[Rory]

There's a bunch of parallel. You could find another route.

[Peach]

Nah, not. Not when you see one thing about it. When you do grimy or like, some shady. Like, you'll be surprised of where the person. You did some shady. Where y' all bump into each other. It be the. It just. It's like, that's. That's the way the world works. Like, you did some grimy. Yeah. I'm gonna go over here and get a massage of my wife. Guess who else is. Guess who else had a spa day today.

[Rory]

Drock. Dr.

[Peach]

Guess who's in the next booth getting a massage. Yeah, Biggie. Biggie getting the manicure right there.

[Rory]

Too big.

[Peach]

Got cucumbers on his eyes. Getting a facial. Yeah. It's spa day for all of us. That's how life work. You do some grimy shit.

[Rory]

Holy shit.

[Peach]

You gonna end up in a situation where you gotta face the grime. You're gonna have to be face to face with, you know, the person you did. Grimy.

[Rory]

But what do you do in that situation too? Because, I mean, I appreciate that he admitted. He was like, damn. I was a little shook when I saw D Rock.

[Peach]

Rock and Big D rocking big and you with your wife.

[Rory]

I would be petrified. No, no, no. I would be scared. I'm saying, what would you say to your wife?

[Peach]

We gotta go.

[Rory]

Like, yo, I think I'm just gonna run this red.

[Peach]

Yeah, yeah, no, we gotta go, you know, get in the car. We gotta go. Like, I gotta use the bathroom. I gotta take a. All of a sudden, my stomach hurt. You know, you get nervous your stomach style. I got my stomach. I gotta take a man. We gotta get back to the house.

[Rory]

D Rock is not a small.

[Peach]

No, not. Not.

[Rory]

That was the one. We joke about the Notorious movie all the time, but there's one thing we don't bring up of the casting with that. They, like, made D Rock out to be like, this, like, smaller stock. That's a drock. Is a beast.

[Peach]

Not a small guy by any means. Yeah.

[Rory]

Why they casted him to be, like, this tall was crazy to me.

[Peach]

Yeah. Legendary story, though. I appreciated that clip. Yeah. Shout out to. What is it? Road. The Road podcast.

[Rory]

Yeah, for sure. Do I. Do we even want to get into Kanye stuff? I really don't have much to say here, but I guess we're getting another Kanye west documentary on September 19th.

[Peach]

I mean, we.

[Rory]

We need one in whose name he's.

[Peach]

Lived in the last seven months. He's lived 10 lives.

[Rory]

So listen, I will be fully tuned in. I'm not going to lie to our viewers here. I've had some contradicting hypocritical things to say about Kanye west, because that is. Because he is also that. So I have ups and downs with him like everyone else. But I'm watching this, like, without a.

[Peach]

Doubt, you're definitely gonna watch a Kanye documentary. I mean, you'll be lying to yourself when you say you.

[Rory]

Hopefully you get your boots in time. You can watch with your boots on.

[Peach]

Yo, and Kanye, you wild, disrespectful. Cause you did another Yeezy drop the other day, and I ain't get my boots from seven months ago. Yo, yo, send me my $25 Hitler boots, man. Stop playing with me, man. Yo, like, it's about to get cold. Fall coming Wednesday. Yo, Kanye, let me chill. Cause Kanye might be doing me a favor by, like, yo, listen, you don't need the boots right now. It's not cold falls. Fall is around the corner.

[Rory]

He's gonna send him when World War III starts.

[Peach]

He's gonna send them when I need him. Our first sign of cold weather. Or cold war. Or cold war. Either way, I think Kanye is going to be right on time and have the boots in my. In my possession. But, yo, yay, I need my. I need my 25 boots, man. Stop playing.

[Rory]

What do we think is going to be in this documentary? Because, I mean, the. The gene, it was genius, right? Cootie and Chike. I Thought was a tremendous documentary. I. I actually have rewatched it a few times. I liked it so much.

[Peach]

That's one of the few. I watched that documentary in the Jordan documentary a lot.

[Rory]

Yeah, it's.

[Peach]

It's.

[Rory]

Every episode is great. This one, from my understanding, is produced by him. So this. What do we think of Kanye produced Faux doc is gonna be. There's been ones that have leaked on Twitter before of his footage, but they felt incomplete. Like.

[Peach]

Is this a trailer for it?

[Rory]

Yeah, it's a trailer right here.

[Peach]

Oh, okay. Yeah. So this is stuff from a few years ago too, so. Oh, yeah, the last six. Oh, this is gonna be crazy. So this is the presidential campaign and all of that. Oh, this is gonna be crazy. This is gonna be him going. Him losing a billion. All of that is in there. Oh, yeah, this is. This is about to be crazy.

[Rory]

I just like the things that he says publicly. The behind the scenes footage. What is he saying? Not on Twitter.

[Peach]

Yo, and he's showing more boots. Yo, Kanye. Yo, send my boots, dog. Don't show me you at the whiteboard with the boots in the documentary. Send me my Nico.

[Rory]

I'm not even gonna try to pronounce that last name.

[Peach]

Ballesteros.

[Rory]

Yeah, but that's the director. A film by. So, yeah, this should be.

[Peach]

It's gonna be interesting. It's gonna be interesting.

[Rory]

What do you think's still on the cutting room floor? Like, what. What do you think is the most outrageous? Like, what did not make. What were. What were they? Like, this is too far.

[Peach]

Everything made it. I think everything made it. I think everything made his Twitter. I don't think they made. I don't think they edited nothing out. Nothing. I think everything we gonna see is everything that they. That happened happened. Everything they filmed is what we gonna see. Absolutely. I don't think they cut nothing out, which is crazy, though. That's like. Do you not want to see that? Like, see the. The good, the bad and the ugly? Yeah, of course. Let's see.

[Rory]

Also, love that song by Kanye and.

[Peach]

Consequence of that movie by Clint Eastwood.

[Rory]

There was one that leaked, I think we talked about on the pod. Like last year, there was one that leaked on Twitter, a doc that had some of that footage as well that I watched in full before it got deleted. No one brings up the amount of, like, random cities that Kanye has built and they've just been abandoned. Like, half of that doc was him. Like, it was Wyoming. He was building a village and then just stopped. Then he went to Saudi Arabia. Stopped because it's in the dock. He was like, yo, we out.

[Peach]

And what document?

[Rory]

The one Genius. No, no, it was after Genius. It just. It leaked on Twitter and it got deleted. I think probably some of that stuff is in this.

[Peach]

Oh, okay.

[Rory]

But he would just. He would just go build cities, and it just be, like, huts and. And he was like, showing Kim. He's like, yo, you just. You sit there and you sleep here. Like, was wild. But before Kanye went fully crazy, I thought that was great. I think that's, like, amazing that you want to build your own towns and cities and his own schools and. But he would just go from place to place and do that, and then they would just. He would just leave them.

[Peach]

I want to watch this, man. This is going to be great. This is gonna be a great documentary. I think it's gonna be. This is gonna be one of them docs that we talk about for a long time, bro, because we gonna hear some and see some. That's like, whoa. Like, they didn't want to cut that out. September 19th in theaters.

[Rory]

Wait, it's in theaters?

[Peach]

Oh, man, wait till.

[Rory]

This is gonna be, like, the last scene in Inglourious Bastards.

[Peach]

Wait till. Wait till. Wait till that don't debut at number one over the weekend. You know, Kanye gonna go his rent. Check your tickets. They're not scanning the tickets. Make sure they scan your ticket. You know, you going to go crazy if this ain't number one.

[Rory]

This is going to be like an amc. Like, I go in Times Square to watch this. I just. I don't know if I fully believe that.

[Peach]

And I want the recline.

[Rory]

As of now, it's in theaters.

[Peach]

I want. And I want to be able to order, like, a burger. Like, bring me a burger while I watch Kanye talk about Nazi.

[Rory]

Yeah, I want the recline seat. Like, the whole experience.

[Peach]

I need. Yeah, give me that. Don't put this in. No, just them small theaters that be in Chelsea and. No, no, no. Put this in the. Put this in the eye picks and the. You know, the look. Look. Cinemas and all that. That.

[Rory]

Yeah, I. I think just because we're so desensitized of crazy at this point in our lives, we don't think about how insane Kanye's career has been. And I mean that in a good, bad, and ugly way that you're saying, have we ever, like, seen an artist have this type of career in. Outside of music, like, publicity things? He said Kanye is the most polarizing artist that's ever existed. Over Michael. Over anybody in, like, over Michael. Yes.

[Peach]

Polarizing.

[Rory]

Polarizing.

[Peach]

No, there's nobody.

[Rory]

I understand that that trial was insane, and they were saying Mike was touching.

[Peach]

There's nobody more. There's no more. There's nobody more polarizing.

[Rory]

Have you just scrolled through Kanye West's Twitter in one year? It's the most insane.

[Peach]

Yeah, but there's nobody more polarizing. No artist.

[Rory]

What's the. Can we look up the definition of polarizing? Because I, I, I. I don't know if polarizing would be the right word. Polarizing. One of the definitions divide or cause to divide into two sharply contrasting groups or sets of opinions or beliefs. Yeah, I don't think Mike ever did that. We all. We all just love Mike.

[Peach]

Oh, yeah. If you gonna go with.

[Rory]

I mean, when the kid thing happened. Yeah, it was. It was a. Got a little dicey.

[Peach]

If you gonna go with divide or course or divide, then. Yes. Kanye did more of dividing than Michael Jackson did. Yes.

[Rory]

Go up to the first one.

[Peach]

Josh.

[Rory]

I hate when definitions just give you the. The word again in it. Oh, it's just physics. Well, I mean, kind of invented physics. Absolutely. But I don't know. I just feel like a superstar, a level artist like, that has never said the most insane things on earth the way Kanye west does when he first came out. Yeah. Peter saying Eminem at that point. But, yeah, Eminem was more like shock jock, like, like crazy, like, oh, let me go over the line type. The Kanye West. It's trying to go DEFCON 4 on the Jews.

[Peach]

Yeah.

[Rory]

You're. You're made Adidas, a billion dollars. Like, all of these things happening at one time.

[Peach]

Yeah.

[Rory]

You're one of the greatest producers, rappers, musicians ever. Then on top of that, you're one of the greatest designers in, I think, my time as far as public figures go.

[Peach]

Absolutely.

[Rory]

And then on top of all of that, you're running for president and screaming, they tried to get me to kill North. Michael never did that.

[Peach]

No, he just hung his baby over the balcony. That's all.

[Rory]

I mean, I mean, it was a blanket reveal with the blanket.

[Peach]

Sometimes you got to give blanket.

[Rory]

Where's blanket, man? How come, like. And I'm. I happy. We don't, like, like, people don't bother Mike's kids like that. But it is kind of, like, cool and strange that we don't, like, know more about where Mike's kids are at these days.

[Peach]

Yeah. Like that. One of the biggest artists.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Peach]

Like, in the history of man and then his kids. We have no idea.

[Rory]

I know. I know more about, like, C list to be star Reality tv, like their fifth kid. I know more about than blank dog blanket.

[Peach]

Yeah.

[Rory]

He looks like a beautiful vampire.

[Peach]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Like, how is this guy? I mean, I love that if he wants to be left alone, that he should be left alone, but you're a pizza. No. What is it?

[Peach]

Because it's not his kid.

[Rory]

What? Of course that is.

[Peach]

Oh, man.

[Rory]

Does Mike have any real kids?

[Peach]

Yeah, you're looking at him. All right.

[Rory]

I shouldn't have said real kids. Does Mike have any kids that look like what he looked like when he was in the Jackson 5?

[Peach]

That's a better question. That's a better question.

[Rory]

That's what I'm trying to ask.

[Peach]

Oh, my God.

[Rory]

That's not Michael Jackson's kid.

[Peach]

That's your kid.

[Rory]

Right? She's even too white for me.

[Peach]

Oh, man.

[Rory]

Anyways, no disrespect to the Jackson family. It's just.

[Peach]

No, no.

[Rory]

Just joking around. I'm happy that nobody bothers his children. His real. His real children, might add. I think that is. Is great. I'm glad they all didn't turn into, like, coked out reality TV stars, because that. Because that probably would have been the plan.

[Peach]

Yeah, that's. It probably is the normal plan.

[Rory]

That's the trajectory of how that usually goes.

[Peach]

That has to go that way. Yeah.

[Rory]

What was Lionel Richie's daughter? And she cleaned her act up. Shout out to her.

[Peach]

She had the Nicole Richie.

[Rory]

Nicole Richie. She. Yeah, she was driving backwards on the 405, snorting heroin off the steering wheel. And then.

[Peach]

Was she. Nicole Richie was on drugs like that.

[Rory]

Yeah. Oh, she openly talks about it. She's clean now.

[Peach]

Then she.

[Rory]

Then she married the guy from Good Charlotte.

[Peach]

Oh, there you go.

[Rory]

It's a beautiful Hollywood love story.

[Peach]

Yeah. Yeah. Okay.

[Rory]

Her and Paris would just walk around, be like, that's hot.

[Peach]

It's hot. It's. It's so hot.

[Rory]

Your salad's so cute.

[Peach]

Legendary, though.

[Rory]

Oh, no.

[Peach]

I sure was legendary.

[Rory]

We. We should have brought that up when we were talking about legendary. Yeah, that's. That was definitely up there, for sure. What was my Paris life?

[Peach]

Kim was Paris's assistant. Yeah. Which is crazy when you go back and look at that.

[Rory]

Yeah. That is absolutely wild. What was the name of Nicole in Paris's show? Simp? The Simple Life. Yeah. Which was, like, very offensive in retrospect.

[Peach]

It's the soft life.

[Rory]

The Simple Life Life. I'm gonna go back and, like, rewatch, because I watched that as such a young kid that I. I didn't. I didn't retain much of It. But I'm sure there's legendary moments.

[Peach]

Oh, my God.

[Rory]

I just remember that show, like, being huge.

[Peach]

Yeah. Anytime you turn the TV on, that show was probably playing.

[Rory]

Look at. Look at this artwork.

[Peach]

Fire. That is dope. That's a legendary show, bro. Like, no, all jokes aside, that's a legendary show. Show.

[Rory]

So. And it's weird that I know this much about Nicole Richie. Nicole Richie is still Lionel's real daughter, but she was adopted. Imagine, like, imagine winning that lottery. I think she was, like, in Oakland or some. In a foster home. Like, imagine Lionel Richie adopting you.

[Peach]

That's crazy. Like, you gotta make it. Like, your life is, like, you have to win. You're a winner. You have to be successful. At that point, you have no choice.

[Rory]

And it's up. Like, just imagine Lionel Richie and his wife, like, you know, going to the foster home and getting a pick of the litter. Just knowing in the back of your mind, like, I'm lit. One kid in here, his whole life is about to completely change. And then you just, like, doing, eeny, meeny miny, moshe.

[Peach]

Like, I don't know if that's.

[Rory]

Like, how the. Like, how am I gonna be. How am I gonna decide whose life is going to be the greatest thing ever or. You're gonna stay in Oakland?

[Peach]

The babies, though, man.

[Rory]

At that. At one point, you have to. Because it's up at that point, like.

[Peach]

Puppies at Pet Land. Like, you look at them in the window.

[Rory]

Like, if you went to go take a piss and had a change of heart about one kid. Now that whole kid's life is completely different.

[Peach]

Yeah, but shout out to course she did the work, because she could have been a. A terror. And they, you know, bring.

[Rory]

She was a terror.

[Peach]

And they bring them back like, oh, no, this. This one's damaged. Bring them back. This one's damned. This one's broke. This one's broke. Damn. My bad. That's up. Can we say that? Yeah, keep it.

[Rory]

Hey, we're all just. We're just joking.

[Peach]

Yeah. It. And whose name in theater September 19th. Make sure you go watch Kanye West.

[Rory]

We said that.

[Peach]

Yeah. And make sure they scan your tickets. So it debuts at number one in the box office that weekend. Absolutely.

[Rory]

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[Rory]

Mall the live golf individual championships have come down to the wire, just like last season. Joaquin Neiman, John Rom, just like you predicted 1 and 2. What are you thinking? What do you think's gonna happen in Indianapolis besides Colin being there?

[Peach]

Well, Colin will definitely, probably, probably be there.

[Rory]

And on top of that, friend of the show, Jason Derulo. That's where I think the mix is going to change. I think Jason's presence there is really going to mix up the entire golfing.

[Peach]

And now we got to figure out which one of these guys is a Derulo fan because that might get the, the, you know, competitive energy going. You know what I mean?

[Rory]

Or maybe a Jordan Sparks fan. And that could really.

[Peach]

Now we're going somewhere else if that's the case.

[Rory]

But yes. August 15th and 16th, live golf in Indianapolis. Also great city.

[Peach]

Great city.

[Rory]

Oh, yeah, definitely love Indy. Also, Riley Green, country music star will be performing as well. I like the performances at the golf.

[Peach]

I like it. Yeah, bring that energy to golf.

[Rory]

I think they should like do it the whole time though, while they're playing. Derulo needs to be on the golf cart with a mic staying his Jason Derulo. Like that's how I feel like that should go.

[Peach]

Not why they actually in the middle of every putt. Nah, man, that is crazy. You can't do that. Tickets are [e-mail] and those who can't make it in person can follow every shot live on Fox Sports.

[Rory]

Ah, come on.

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[Rory]

Anyways, do we have voicemails?

[Peach]

You've got mail. Sponsored by Boost Mobile. Unlimited talk, text and data for 25amonth. Forever. Yo, J.C. f. Texas repping. This one's for Rory since he's a father. And. And pause. But. But you think you're hornier after having kids or do you get less hornier after having kids? Like, because I know, like, you know, we just had a second kid and everything, but man, I'm horny as. All right, I know y' all known for being the horny podcast, but what do you think, Roy?

[Rory]

Guys know this guy's not crazy. He's asking a very valid question. Question. Yes. After you have a child, there's of course that time where you cannot have sex because you know she's stitched up or, you know, you just can't. And there's a lot going on. Even newborn. I. I said this on Horrible Decisions and thank God you guys didn't watch that episode. But I started having wet dreams again after because I just, you know, you go from like a rat habit to not at all. And yeah, you get way hornier because you're just not. It's. I don't know if it's a nature. Maybe it's. It's also in our animal DNA to like make more kids after you have one. But he's not wrong. That is. That definitely happens. Like for sure happens.

[Peach]

Okay.

[Rory]

I hadn't had a wet dream since I was like 13. And I'm just waking up with nut in my. My draw is like, what am I? Like, this is disgust. What's wrong?

[Peach]

He was ovulating. Yo. This was ovulating. You wanted another baby.

[Rory]

And also right before, I mean, at least in my experience, right before he was about to have kid, the. The doctor does ask, like, do you want to get on birth control like right away? Cuz there's going to be a time where you don't and then you're going to want to a lot. And do.

[Peach]

Do you.

[Rory]

Do you know if you want another kid right away? So that's what a question pretty much out the gate. Like get on birth control if you don't have another kid because you're going to be once she's done there. But yes, you get, you get much horn. She doesn't get as horny, but you do.

[Peach]

Okay, all right. I mean, well, he's.

[Rory]

He's not wrong.

[Peach]

I'm glad you and this gentleman share ovulation cycles.

[Rory]

It turns you back into like a horny teenager. For sure.

[Peach]

Etc. Okay.

[Rory]

It's like a new puberty to some degree.

[Peach]

Yes. I mean, that's interesting because I don't have kids, but I'll be. Some days I'll be like, what is this? Like, me horny as a mother. So. Yeah.

[Rory]

And what's up is, like, you could curb your horniness back in the day. Like now with Twitter algorithms, you'd be horny, like on the subway. And then just look at your phone. It's just porn. And you're like, what the man?

[Peach]

Yeah.

[Rory]

And then you stay horny, like everywhere. Like, before you get horny, be like, damn horny. And like, if the feeling would pass.

[Peach]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Until later, but now it's just everywhere.

[Peach]

Yeah. Ass and titties everywhere. It's a great time to be alive, though.

[Rory]

I will say one thing at that Chris Brown show, not the in backstage with the chicks with the weird faces in the crowd.

[Peach]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Bad place to be horny boy. Did he bring him out.

[Peach]

Yeah.

[Rory]

There's also one thing that I think we need to give Chris Brown credit. He brings out the. That have the bad feminine girlfriends. Like, I saw a lot of. With bad in the crowd.

[Peach]

I think is offensive, but Trump is president, so it's okay.

[Rory]

Now, wait, defensive. Oh, if we had to put it on YouTube, then it's offensive. But I mean, still.

[Peach]

But keep it in there.

[Rory]

Speaking Kanye West, I don't think he ever knew the real definition of that word. Every time he wrapped it, I was like, that doesn't fit in the context of what I think you think it means. And I'll do anything for a blonde. Like, that's just. I'm not judging. If that's your speed, that's your speed, but I just don't think that's what you think it means.

[Peach]

You want a lesbian is what you're talking. Yeah.

[Rory]

I would say the more masculine leaning lesbians with very traditionally feminine, beautiful women were in attendance at the Chris Brown.

[Peach]

Cut off T shirts.

[Rory]

Yes.

[Peach]

Yeah.

[Rory]

And yeah, they. It was date night for the.

[Peach]

No, he bring him out. He definitely bring them out.

[Rory]

Do we have another voicemail? Good bush, yo. That's a white boy bush that grew up in Rockford, Illinois. You know what I'm saying? Slinging, doing all that. Got respect in the hood as boy. Oh, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop.

[Peach]

Wait, what is that? What he. I grew up slanging in the hood. What? What is he Talking about, go to start that over, I think he started.

[Rory]

With screaming white boy. Yo, that's a white boy that grew up in Rockford, Illinois, you know what I'm saying? Slinging, doing all that. Got respect in the hood as a white boy. Why don't we give Eminem the respect he deserves as one of the greatest of all time? Just because rhymes they spits. The way he spit, the way he predicted his own come up. I'm not saying, like, why don't people just give him the respect that he deserves? Because, I mean, he's part of the culture. He's a part of the culture. Even though you're white, it doesn't mean that you ain't part of the culture.

[Peach]

If you grew up in it, you.

[Rory]

Grew up in it. So I just wanted to know that. Much respect to you, mom. Much respect to you, Rory. Much respect, Dud all day. Love you guys. Love the pod. Let me know your feedback mall. As someone that was very, very allegedly knee deep in the dope game.

[Peach]

I was nowhere near it.

[Rory]

Allegedly. Some of that, that was at kingpin status. If you met this gentleman, would this be somebody that you would trust to do crimes with?

[Peach]

He sound like an op, man.

[Rory]

If this guy was looking for a brick and started talking, he'd be like, I'm gonna slang. I'm a slang with you.

[Peach]

Let me guess. He had his hat on backwards with a NY, NY Fire Department T shirt on. Like, if you don't get your knock ass out of here, man. No, but I mean, who doesn't give Eminem his respect? People just. I think now today, people don't really care to hear Eminem's raps like that like, like they once did. But that doesn't mean that people don't respect Eminem for the legend that he is. Like, you just don't listen to his. Any. His current stuff. But his, his legacy is cemented. It's solidified. Like, Eminem is a fucking goat. Like, so I don't understand what he means by people don't give Eminem his respect. Like, because we don't praise the new songs that he put out and say it's amazing and great. Like, is that what he's referring to? I.

[Rory]

You just don't have it from the perspective of a white boy that got respect from the hood.

[Peach]

Yeah, I can't. I don't. I can't. Yeah, I don't. I. I don't have that lens also.

[Rory]

No, look at his lens on what he thinks gets get. That's low Key racist.

[Peach]

Yeah. Like, oh, so you think that's what's gonna. Cause you sold some drugs?

[Rory]

Yeah, I got married.

[Peach]

Nah, you down. You one of us. Because you sold. You sold a couple nickel bags and some pills.

[Rory]

He's coming from that perspective. Like, that's why he's respected. So he doesn't understand why Eminem.

[Peach]

Eminem is respected. He's a legend. There's nothing that anybody can do to take that away from Eminem. He's solidified. He's a goat. One of the greatest MCs we've ever heard. I just think a lot of his new stuff and current stuff, people don't hold it to the same reverence that they once did. That's all. But that's a lot of goats and legends that after a while, it's kind of like, we don't really want to hear from those guys as much as we once did. It's not the same content. They're older. They can't really talk the same way they used to, for whatever reason. It's a new wave, new generation, new era. But that's. Eminem is solidified.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Peach]

Nobody can ever take that away from Eminem. He's a goat. He's hall of Fame, whatever you want to all of the accolades, all of the praise. Eminem deserves it. He worked for it. There's no doubt about that. But you can't be mad at this era, in this generation now is a little more vocal about not liking his music because they just don't attach to it, that's all.

[Rory]

Yeah. And I mean, when I was just a young white boy slanging in the hood, not everyone loved Head Sprung, but we still thought LL was goat. That was a weird day when Headsprung dropped. All right, this is the direction you're taking us out.

[Peach]

Big La. Nobody called me Big. Nobody ever called Lo Big La, man. Nobody.

[Rory]

Well, everyone. Everyone hated Headsprung. And I was sitting there, like, hard.

[Peach]

Yeah, start doing this. Like, this kind of got a little rock.

[Rory]

But that's a. That's a sick hook.

[Peach]

In restaurant, Nasty Head sprung. We just happy. Yeah, we were just happy to be outside, man. That's all. I. It was product of an environment.

[Rory]

Well, yes. That was one of the more interesting voicemails I think we've ever gotten. Not because of the question, but because of everything else.

[Peach]

From Radford, Illinois, you know, got the respect from the brothers. Slanging, banging.

[Rory]

And Damaris just walked in, so I can't make any Spectrum jokes because she'll. She'll stomp on them.

[Peach]

Yeah.

[Rory]

And. And oh, and I want an apology from you guys.

[Peach]

Guys. Well, what?

[Rory]

Because I talked to somebody that I diagnosed as bipolar and you guys said that I shouldn't do that and he left.

[Peach]

Yeah, but that doesn't mean. Well, he also said he heard what the you said and cursed you out.

[Rory]

We're friends now.

[Peach]

Yeah. Yeah. That's how it goes. Yeah. Somebody say curse him out and go.

[Rory]

Back to being friends now. We send each other beats.

[Peach]

Yeah. There you go. All right. Well, we'll talk to you on a couple days. Be safe. Be blessed. Head over to patreon.com newroarianmaul now.

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[Peach]

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