Episode 398 | Ninja Warriors

Summary

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New Rory & MAL – Episode 398 | Ninja Warriors

Date: August 19, 2025
Hosts: Rory, Maul
Guest/Co-host: Damaris

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Episode Overview

This episode finds Rory & Maul (with regular Damaris appearances) in relaxed, comedic rapport for a quintessential “new week, same antics” show. Topics range from NYC summer heat woes, Ninja Warrior gyms for “civilians,” random sporting obsessions, celebrity rumors and conspiracies, new music drops (with lengthy takes on Cardi B’s “Imaginary Players”), rumors and hip-hop beefs, family feuds, and nuggets of questionable street wisdom. As always, there are random hot takes, recurring inside jokes, and a frank, breezy conversational tone.

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Main Topics & Key Segments

1. NYC Summer Vibes & Weather Complaints

[02:20–03:41]

• The team celebrates a break from the 90-degree NYC summer:
  • “It is not 90 degrees in New York and I feel amazing.” – Rory (02:20)
  • Banter about New York vs. Nevada heat, humidity, and “body temp” jokes.

2. Hospital Attention-Seeking & Social Media Rants

[03:44–04:36]

• The crew mock-posting hospital bracelets for attention.
  • “You always have to post that.” – Rory (03:59)
  • “Pray for me. Yeah, don’t ask questions. Just prayers.” – Damaris (04:01)

3. Sports Obsessions & “Ninja Warrior” Tangents

[05:16–14:59]

• Maul’s update: Harlem tennis clinic for kids, watching from sidelines.
• Childhood & odd sports: Badminton, “Newcomb,” Ultimate Frisbee (“might be the gayest game of all time” – Rory, 07:20), and water polo curiosity.
• “How do people get into curling or bobsledding?” – Rory & Maul discuss unlikely Olympic sports.
• The crew’s joking debate about “becoming” a ninja and the birthright of ninja skills.

4. Ninja Warrior Gyms for Regulars

[12:09–15:03]

• Maul suggests Ninja Warrior-style gyms should be a bar-like activity:
  • “We should… get drunk and then try to do a ninja warrior obstacle course.”
• Discovering real Ninja gyms for “civilians” in NYC:
  • “There’s never been a ninja warrior. Everyone’s been a civilian.” – Rory (12:57)
  • “You gotta be born a ninja.” – Maul (13:23)

Memorable Moment:

Ninja Wall Rivalry

“Damaris, you are not making it up that wall.”
– Maul, roast-battling Damaris’ bravado (14:23)

5. Rory’s Weekend: Tao, EDM Parties & Harlem Exes

[19:11–24:42]

• Rory hit Tao for a friend’s dinner, ran into familiar faces.
• Tales from a music event at “The Edge” with EDM mayhem and questionable remixes:
  • “I don’t ever want to hear ‘Money, Power, Respect’ in EDM form.” – Rory (21:42)
• Fate, exes, and repeated life lessons:
  • “If you keep running into the same lesson, it’s ‘cause you haven’t learned it yet.” – Damaris (23:06)

6. Childhood Slow Dance Songs & 80s/90s Nostalgia

[23:53–24:51]

• Everyone recalls their first slow dance songs—Amanda Perez’s “Send Me An Angel,” Tiffany’s “I Think We’re Alone Now.”
  • “That was the first song I ever slow danced to.” – Rory (23:57)
  • “What’s the greatest... I think we’re alone now.” – Maul (24:06)

7. Rory Visits His Jamaican ‘Adopted Family’

[24:54–26:33]

• Catching up, nostalgia, and funny photos.
• “Watching you in that picture was like watching Tom Cruise in The Last Samurai. You was the last bumble clot.” – Maul (25:14)

8. Growing Up White in a Black Family, Police Stories

[26:41–27:14]

• Rory tells stories about the cops constantly hassling him for living with a Jamaican family:
  • “The cops would bring me into the back of the car like ‘What are you doing in there?’ I live there!”

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Major Music Talk

9. Cardi B – “Imaginary Players” Single Discussion

[28:08–36:38]

• Rory’s honest take:
  • “I do like the record... she was talking. I think it’s a cool girl version.” – Rory (28:26)
• Damaris: loves Cardi’s “fashion” flexes and the beat choice.
• Maul’s critique:

  “Something about the record doesn’t feel authentic… feels too coached. I didn’t believe what she was saying in it.” (31:08)

  • Maul takes issue with Cardi’s delivery as being too “read” and over-enunciated.
• Damaris attributes Cardi’s delivery to her accent:
  • “I think recording songs is a little bit harder for her because she’s been criticized in the past for her pronunciation not being that great…” (34:26)
• Comparison to Jay-Z’s style on the original “Imaginary Player.”
• Speculation about album singles and potential features:
  • “I think we’re gonna get another single with a big feature before the album.” – Rory (38:01)

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Hip Hop & Culture Roundup

10. Ice Spice in Spike Lee’s new film (with Denzel Washington)

[41:02–45:22]

• Shock at Ice Spice’s acting debut:
  • “Why did nobody tell me Ice Spice is acting next to Denzel Washington?” – Rory (41:14)
• Jokes about whether Spike Lee or Martin Scorsese knows any rappers, or casts based on publicists’ pitches.
  • “Do you think Spike Lee knew who Ice Spice was?” – Rory (42:55)
• “She ain’t an underground rapper, y’all.” – Damaris (44:24)

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11. Movie Recommendations & NYC Hack Tips

[45:51–50:55]

• Brief talk about “Weapons” and “F1” movies.
• Extended tangent on sneaking into movies and riding NY buses for free:
  • “You can literally just walk right past the driver.” – Maul (49:14)
• Nostalgic stories of fare evasion.

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Personal Anecdotes & Listener Voicemails

12. Wild Dad Stories & Baseball Games

[50:55–53:00]

• Maul’s uncle falsely tells baseball players he has cancer to get signatures.
• Rory/Both: “Everybody has the same dad.”

13. Voicemail: Family Feuds

[111:44–117:07]

• Listener asks what to do about not talking to her twin-cousin for 10 years.
  • “Some people don’t grow out of who they are.” – Damaris (116:11)
  • “Just tell your family, stop calling me when she’s on the phone.” – Maul (114:36)
  • Damaris suggests: Make everyone uncomfortable, openly state “I don’t fuck with her.”

14. Voicemail: Leaving a Friend in a Bar Fight

[122:56–130:46]

• Should you bail when your friend picks a fight?
  • “If I already learned my lesson, why I gotta go and learn a lesson I already learned? That’s stupid.” – Damaris (124:35)
  • “It just depends on when you left. I don’t mind that you left if nothing was going on, but if it was already shaking… wrong for that.” – Maul (130:16)

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Random Rapid Fire Takes & Closing LOLs

15. Garth Brooks Serial Killer Conspiracy

[84:29–87:55]

• Maul deeply recounts a conspiracy theory (originally started by Tom Segura) that Garth Brooks is a serial killer:

  “I really started to be like, yo, Garth Brooks might be a serial killer. Like, every tour, every city, somebody comes up missing.” (86:04)

• Damaris and Rory egg him on, eventually realizing it's a bit.
  • “Tom Segura started this rumor... the Internet ran with it.” – Maul (86:49)

16. Taylor Swift on Travis Kelce’s Podcast

[88:21–91:16]

• Jokes about being slighted as fans:
  • “Why did Travis get the Taylor Swift interview before us?” – Rory (88:57)
• Loads of speculation about T-Swift’s family holidays, security, and “do celebrities stay in the house, or hotel?”

17. Yachty’s Controversial Bar

[100:49–104:47]

• Yachty’s “George Floyd” line criticized:
  • “It was disrespectful… not a hard bar, just a bad bar.” – Rory (103:56)
  • “Yachty, you’re sharper than that.” – Maul (101:48)
• Real talk about the difference between intent and interpretation.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Social Posturing:
  “Pray for me. Yeah, don’t ask questions. Just prayers.”
  – Damaris (04:01)
• On Sports Authenticity:
  “I didn’t know Frisbee was, like, a competitive sport.”
  – Maul (07:53)
• On the Reality of Being a Ninja:
  “A ninja never reveals himself, though. You’ll never know he’s a ninja.”
  – Maul (18:45)
• On Life Lessons from Exes:
  “If you keep running into the same lesson, it’s because you haven’t learned it yet.”
  – Damaris (23:06)
• On Cardi B’s Delivery:
  “It just feels too… I want to say produced. It feels too coached.”
  – Maul (31:08)
• On Hip-Hop & College:
  “What doesn’t make you hip hop about college?”
  – Rory (62:27)

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Additional Highlights

• Family as Friends, and Vice Versa:
  • Extended “cousins” and “adopted family” stories; the line between blood and bond.
• NYC Nostalgia & Comic Wisdom:
  • Old New York bus/train hacks, sneaking into movies, dads’ tall tales.
• Pop Conspiracies:
  • Jokes about JonBenét Ramsey = Katy Perry, Charlie Manson’s musical talent, CIA ops at Taylor Swift’s holiday.

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Closing

[134:35–End]

• The crew preps upcoming guest Bryson Tiller, debates viral dance challenges, and closes with more rapid-fire music jokes, gentle roasting, and trademark playful cynicism.
• “I’m that he’s just Ginger. Peace, man, no worrying now.” – Maul (139:09)

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Time-Stamped Segment Guide

• [02:20] – Weather, Baseball, NYC Summer
• [04:06] – Social Media, Hospital Posting
• [05:16] – Odd Sports, Ninja Warrior Digressions
• [12:09] – ‘Civilians’ at Ninja Warrior Gyms
• [19:11] – Tao, EDM Party, Exes
• [28:08] – Cardi B’s “Imaginary Players” deep-dive
• [41:02] – Ice Spice acting discussion
• [84:29] – Garth Brooks conspiracy
• [88:21] – Taylor Swift & Kelseys
• [100:49] – Lil Yachty’s lyric controversy
• [111:44] – Voicemails: Family estrangement
• [122:56] – Voicemails: Bar fights & friendship
• [134:35] – Wrap-up, guests, dance challenges

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Tone & Takeaways

• Tone: Unfiltered, irreverent, playful, sometimes pensive but always relatable and honest.
• Takeaways:
  • Don’t fall for Internet conspiracies—or do, it’s fun.
  • Not all family bonds are meant to last, and that’s okay.
  • Genuine connection in hip-hop—or life—rarely comes “coached.”
  • “Time is our only currency.” – Rory (16:35 et al.)

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For Episode-Newcomers

If you missed the episode, you’ll return knowing Rory, Maul, and Damaris’ distinctive humor, their takes on hip-hop and pop culture, candid conversations on friends and family, and why next week’s banter will be even more random.

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[Rory]

We are back happy top of the week. It is not 90 degrees in New York and I feel amazing.

[Maul]

Why you don't. You don't like the. Oh yeah, the sun. You don't do well just a lot.

[Rory]

And even it's just been a very very hot summer. It feels like a like a 03 summer.

[Maul]

The last two days was kind of.

[Rory]

Humid but the last like three months have been in the 90s, non stop.

[Maul]

Well, that's.

[Rory]

And that's a New York 90s, like, not a Nevada 90s, because that's basically 120 degrees in New York.

[Maul]

Yeah, absolutely. It's been, it's been hot. We had this summer was definitely some warm days. We've seen some warm humid days. But today is the first day where it's not so warm and humid. So this is, this is like your, you know, you can go to the beach today.

[Rory]

I feel like my body temperature is back to where it should.

[Maul]

Yeah, this is whatever 70s. This is where you get your tan at.

[Rory]

What, what, what's your body supposed to be?

[Damaris]

98.

[Rory]

98. Yeah.

[Maul]

98 degrees, 98.7. Kiss that friend, you know, or Nick Lache.

[Rory]

You're supposed to be at the like. Right. Nick Lache level.

[Maul]

Yeah.

[Rory]

We are back. We are sponsored by Boost. We have merch available on our site also for $5 a month, you can hear all of this content ad [e-mail] New Rory Mall Damaris is back. It's good to see Damaris on a regular episode. We had her, we had her on Patreon that came out today. But you know, she's. She's finally back. Had a, had a. Had a week off. I'm. I'm just going to go to the hospital.

[Maul]

You're going to go to. Just go. Just go for no reason?

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Maul]

Why?

[Rory]

And then just like send y' all a pic that I'm there and just take like a week off. I'm just going to wait in the waiting room. Like they'll be like, called next. Like. No, no, no, I'm fine.

[Maul]

No, you a white guy. You don't. They don't. They don't let you wait in the waiting room. They get you in and out.

[Damaris]

I should have sent you a picture of my hospital bracelet for attention.

[Rory]

Oh, for sure. You always have to post that.

[Maul]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Pray for me. Yeah, don't ask questions. Just prayers.

[Rory]

Why do people post that?

[Damaris]

Attention. That's why they do that.

[Rory]

So don't ask questions. Then don't post your hospital bed.

[Maul]

It's crazy, man. We just live in a crazy world, that's all.

[Rory]

And I even feel weird, like bothering God about that because I don't know what you did.

[Damaris]

No, exactly.

[Maul]

Just pray.

[Rory]

You could have deserved it.

[Maul]

Yeah. Not praying for somebody in the hospital. If I don't. Tell me what happened. Yeah, don't tell me you got drunk and fell down to some stairs.

[Rory]

I gotta Give God details. I can't just pray.

[Maul]

Praying for that. You got drunk and fell down some stairs. Don't be stupid next time. That doesn't. I'm not sending that prayer up to God.

[Rory]

Yeah, I feel like that. Too much bandwidth with God in prayers. Like, some of us need to keep some shit.

[Maul]

Yeah, we gotta filter.

[Rory]

What, like, hey, you. That was your fault.

[Maul]

Yeah. God is not. He can't be everywhere all the time. Like, you know what I mean? Sometimes that's just on you. You stupid.

[Rory]

But how was your weekend?

[Maul]

It was cool, man. It was cool. I went out to Harlem. I had Harlem Week started. Some of my people did an event, put on a tennis clinic for the kids.

[Rory]

Oh, that's cool.

[Maul]

Yeah, so I went. Stopped by, I saw a bunch of people, saw a few of my cousins I hadn't seen in a while.

[Rory]

How's your back?

[Maul]

Oh, no, I didn't.

[Rory]

I didn't, you know, participate.

[Maul]

It was for the kids. It was like, you know, for.

[Rory]

Yeah, I thought maybe you get out on the court and show them doubles. I don't know.

[Maul]

I was on the. I was on the side chilling, man. Talking to the people, man. Kicking it with the folks. Man.

[Rory]

That'd be fun to do a doubles pause like tennis match against other podcasts like Pickleball.

[Maul]

Because it can't be tennis or badminton.

[Rory]

I used to be all right at Batman.

[Damaris]

Yeah, Real could have badminton.

[Rory]

Like. No, they're not nice.

[Maul]

Ain't no real good at badminton where that came from. Real. Is it real? Never even played badminton.

[Rory]

Because I'm a real.

[Maul]

And I'm badmin and badmine is two different things. I know some real that know point out the bod mine with Batman.

[Rory]

You don't think.

[Maul]

You don't play that at school. What's played in high school?

[Rory]

No, I played it like, in college. It would be on.

[Maul]

Where do you even play that at?

[Rory]

Like a. A Jersey Shore at the beach. Sometimes we would play.

[Maul]

Nah, that ain't for no real.

[Damaris]

I had a. I had one that's tennis.

[Maul]

Like. That's tennis volleyball. Like, you gotta hit the. Over the. The net.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Maul]

And just play volleyball.

[Rory]

In school, we did when we were younger. I was. It called Nuke. I forgot Nukem. I think where it was volleyball. But you would catch it and, like, throw it. Cause we weren't, like, old enough to really play volleyball.

[Maul]

What was it called?

[Rory]

Newcomb, I think it was.

[Maul]

Nah, teachers just made some shit up.

[Damaris]

I don't know if I ever heard of that shit.

[Maul]

Yeah, they freestyled that probably. But, yeah, that's not a real thing.

[Rory]

Nobody could. Like, it was elementary school. Nobody was doing this or spiking. Like, you would just catch the shit.

[Maul]

If a kid was spiking in elementary, where's he at now?

[Rory]

The league.

[Maul]

He better be representing usa. He better be representing the USA Plays.

[Rory]

For the spurs right now.

[Maul]

If you playing volleyball in elementary and you spiking, yeah, you better be representing the good USA right now. You better. Wherever you at in the world.

[Rory]

How do we even get on that? Oh, badminton. Yeah, badminton's fun. We'll get a set for the. For the office.

[Maul]

Badminton. No, we won't get a badminton set for the office.

[Damaris]

Like, where the fuck would you put it, Rory?

[Rory]

I don't know. I mean, yeah, we do. Like, a mini one. You got to play on your knees.

[Maul]

That's crazy. Playing a game on your knees is wild. What games do you play on your.

[Damaris]

Knees that's just unnecessary. Like, they have, like, the same way you shoot the little basketballs at Dave and Buster's and stay on your feet. Like, I'm sure you could do the same for the Batman.

[Rory]

I'm just thinking for it to get it over and not hit the ceiling, we'd have to be lower. I mean, either way. When I would go to the real college campuses and all the whites were playing Ultimate Frisbee, that might be the gayest game of all time. If I came in here and said I was nice at Ultimate Frisbee, then I feel like I would get the energy about my badminton.

[Maul]

I used to think I was good at throwing a Frisbee until I was in Central park one summer and saw this dude throwing a Frisbee. He might have threw a Frisbee the whole length of Central Park. I never seen no shit like that in my life. Like, I thought I could throw a Frisbee. I'm like, yo, I ain't gonna lie. I'd be at the family cookout. You throw that shit. You like, yo, that was crazy, dog. This nigga sent you, parked through this Frisbee so far. I didn't even know homie all the way down there was with him. I didn't even know those two gentlemen.

[Rory]

Knew each other 59, 210th the whole life.

[Maul]

How did you do that? Like, how do you throw Frisbee? That, like, I didn't even know Frisbee was, like, a competitive sport.

[Rory]

Yeah, yeah.

[Damaris]

What makes it ultimate? I was just about to ask.

[Rory]

Oh, I don't know the rules. I just, like, would walk by and they'd be playing it. It's like a Frisbee. Yeah, it's like football, but with a Frisbee, I guess. Just gayer.

[Maul]

Oh, like, Frisbee would be the football and I gotta throw it to the receiver. Yeah.

[Rory]

Yeah. More or less.

[Maul]

Maybe that's what those two gentlemen were. They probably represent the usa. And what's the name of that?

[Rory]

Ultimate Frisbee.

[Maul]

Ultimate Frisbee. If I look those gentlemen up, they're probably right there.

[Rory]

How about. Like, there's certain sports. I wonder, like, how people get in. How do you get into water polo? Like, what's. What's your journey as a child? Like, I can totally see baseball, basketball. It's like always. Who just becomes a water polo player?

[Maul]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Like, where does that happen? I.

[Maul]

Like, I.

[Rory]

How did you learn about this? Like, the people that. With the brooms on the ice, like, how do you get to that.

[Maul]

Yeah.

[Rory]

In your life? Like, I need to know that journey. I can even understand speed skating before. Like, who put the broom in your hand?

[Maul]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Like, was your pops in the park with you?

[Maul]

Yeah. How do you fall on that? How do you. How do you stumble upon. Like, I'm nice at this bobsledding.

[Rory]

I can even see racing.

[Maul]

A person that tries a lot of shit will find that out about themselves. Like, in order to know that you nice at that. Like, you. You went through a. You. You bold. You bold. At one point, he wasn't that good. Yeah, you played scare. Probably started with scales. He's on the block. You wasn't that good. You got to keep advancing. Like, I know I like this, but it's not. I gotta find the iteration of this that I'm good at. Because that's not something that you just. Is that even a cultural thing? Like, do they do that in certain countries? Like the Olympics?

[Damaris]

What, curling?

[Maul]

Like, to get, like, scholarships in Ivy.

[Rory]

School, getting a scholarship for that. I mean, listen.

[Maul]

Well, water polo, I mean, that's. You know, take some guys from the swim team. Yeah. Like, I could see that.

[Rory]

I'm sure water polo is tough because once I found out, like, you can't touch the bottom, I was like, oh, yeah, that's probably exactly.

[Maul]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Rory]

But the. But the broom, I think that's a sport that They're Olympians only because no one else will play that sport. Like, if D. Wade decided to be a curler, none of y' all would make the team. Yeah, that's just. It's sheer numbers, Sterling.

[Maul]

That's what it's called.

[Damaris]

It originated in Scotland during the 16th century.

[Maul]

Come on, man. That's your people.

[Rory]

Scotland and Ireland are not the same.

[Maul]

Yo, it's like New York Jersey. That's right.

[Damaris]

New York Jersey.

[Maul]

That's New York Jersey.

[Rory]

Okay.

[Maul]

Yeah.

[Rory]

So more Connecticut. I would say UK Ireland is more New York Jersey.

[Maul]

Okay, cool.

[Rory]

Yes.

[Maul]

But it's right there.

[Rory]

That's like Stanford, Connecticut.

[Maul]

Yeah, you can make out a good high rise and see it. You know what I'm saying? You can see it if you got the penthouse.

[Rory]

And Scotland's like, I mean, of course it gets cold, but I would think, like, that happened in Serbia is where that was invented.

[Maul]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Like Scotland.

[Maul]

Yeah. Crazy.

[Rory]

Why y' all finding that much ice? What's. What's the. Is it shuffleboard? What's the. That would be at the dive bars where all like the sawdust and everything. Like, how you get nice at that. Just say you're an alcoholic because, yeah, nobody goes in sober and just plays that.

[Maul]

And you only see that at a bar. You don't see that anywhere else. Nobody has it in their house. Like, that's only at bars, like foosball, all of those type of things. It's like, oh, you. You a drinker, you're a drunk.

[Rory]

I feel like bowling is one of those sports. It's almost like when people miss free throws in the NBA. I'm like, you do this for a living, Bowling? I feel like professionals should bowl a perfect game every time.

[Maul]

Yeah.

[Rory]

There'd be certain guys with nachos in their hand at Hudson Lanes that be close. I'm like, how is every single professional bowling shit not a tie for first place every time? Everybody. Everybody bowled a perfect score.

[Damaris]

Yeah. I don't get that.

[Maul]

I ain't gonna lie. Is it. If there's one sport that I think I could play, like, I could be dope as, like, roller derby. I remember roller derby.

[Rory]

Of course I do.

[Maul]

That was my. I always.

[Rory]

The women's one was the best one to watch.

[Maul]

Oh, yeah, definitely. Only the women roller derby. Yeah, that's. That's one sport I look at. I'm like, damn, I should have. I should have signed up for that. That and slam ball. I know. I would have been nice.

[Rory]

I mean, why did that. Was it the ratings? I watched every slamball episode.

[Maul]

Yeah. I don't know, it just didn't catch. I think the NBA probably was like.

[Rory]

Yo, they turned into Sky Zone in Long Island. They kept the courts. They just don't air it on TV. And now a 10 year old can.

[Maul]

Go, yeah, yeah, I fuck. I fuck with slam ball, man, XFL too.

[Rory]

Like all those weird sub genre sports leagues were the best to me.

[Maul]

We need to get like a. They need to open like. You know how they got the ninja warrior event? Yeah, they need to like open those for like, you know how we got like escape rooms and shit? Yeah, we should be able to there like with our crew, get drunk and they try to do a ninja warrior like obstacle course.

[Rory]

They probably suit. I'm sure they probably have one. Well, I mean, if you're drunk, but I'm saying if I'm sure there's ones you could do sober. That's got to be a thing. I don't think we look up ninja warrior for civilians, for non ninjas, mind you, none of them were ninjas either. Low key, racist because of their ethnicity.

[Maul]

Warriors, like, ain't none of us ninjas. Like, we gonna be going warrior this weekend, man. Let's go to warriors. For sure. We go into look at nigga warrior style courses in gym for civilians.

[Rory]

For civilians.

[Maul]

It has to be.

[Rory]

There's never been a ninja warrior. Everyone's been a civilian.

[Maul]

No, no. Some ninjas walking around here. But it's more niggas than ninjas though, for sure. Fox Ninja park located in Greenpoint. Oh, I know exactly what I said, but I didn't know that that was. I thought that people that were going to be on Ninja Warrior go there to train. I didn't know that that was like open. I didn't know I could walk in there and just be like, yo, can I get the 10:30 session? Yeah, like I know like, well, they.

[Damaris]

All started as civilians before they became ninjas.

[Maul]

Yeah. Nah, you born a ninja. See, you don't even know about ninja culture. Baby D, that's your problem. You are born a ninja. You don't just stumble into being.

[Rory]

Everybody's in that pov.

[Damaris]

Oh, they have an adult night. Bring your friends to adult night with a dj, alcohol and a good time.

[Maul]

Yo, we in there.

[Rory]

I'm definitely.

[Maul]

Yo, we going to Nigga Academy. New York City. Nigga Academy. Situated in Manhattan, the academy provides classes for both kids and adults focusing on techniques for swing and climbing, agility, balance, strength and conquering. The Warped Wall, Baby D Not making it up. That warp wall. They feature obstacles similar to those seen on American Ninja Warrior, and these obstacles rotate weekly for fresh challenges. Baby D, what's up? You ain't trying to get up that. That warp wall? You know what the warp wall is?

[Damaris]

I can't remember.

[Maul]

It's like you got to run and the wall go straight up and you got. Oh, yeah.

[Damaris]

No, no, I'll do. Backflip off that.

[Maul]

No, the object Baby D is to get to the top.

[Damaris]

Yeah, I know, but I'm going to put on a show like I'm. I. I'm nice to.

[Maul]

That and do it up.

[Rory]

Sticking the landing.

[Maul]

Listen, Damaris, I'm not even k. Baby D. Damaris.

[Rory]

Oh.

[Maul]

When you look at it, you are not making it up that wall.

[Rory]

When you look at it from this angle, though, that's crazy.

[Maul]

I probably won't. You definitely not making it up that.

[Rory]

Wall farther than you.

[Maul]

No, you crazy as hell.

[Rory]

See, n. If I get enough running start, I think I could do it the one on the left yet. But this angle right here, like, the official one, I don't know if I'm making up.

[Damaris]

I'mma slide down that. Like, some of.

[Maul]

That's what I just said. I just said you're not making it up the wall, but can you try.

[Rory]

A backflip at least?

[Maul]

No, no, we'll push the. No, no, no, no.

[Rory]

Cushion in. Right?

[Maul]

Right as she baby D, then we don't want her to break her neck. Please. She already been in the hospital this week. Oh, yeah.

[Damaris]

I've been through it now.

[Maul]

Let her just chill, man. Let her just chill. But, yeah, we gotta go to Ninja Academy, man.

[Damaris]

We said we got to do a lot of. Are we actually going to do it?

[Rory]

This is something. I'll do this. If y' all don't. I'll go by myself.

[Maul]

I would have been went because I've been. I've walked past that one at Greenpoint a couple times. And I didn't know that. I thought that it was people that was training to go on the show, So I didn't think that I could just walk in there and be like, yo, could I get the 11:15 session?

[Rory]

Everybody starts with a yellow belt or whatever the it is.

[Maul]

Yeah. But then sometimes you go in there. It's the guy that actually won it last year. He's training to go like, three for three.

[Rory]

Yeah, I'm trying to be.

[Maul]

I don't want to be in there with him. I don't want to. It's like when you playing spades, somebody don't know how to play spades. It's like, yo, why is this dude sitting down right here? Like, I don't want to do that.

[Rory]

I mean, but I feel like it's probably a warm community, a very accepting community.

[Maul]

Yeah. I think let's. Let's contact them, see if we can Rent it out for the day.

[Rory]

You think you've ever, like, actually met a ninja before?

[Maul]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Like, you. Where?

[Maul]

In Harlem. So.

[Rory]

You said that with such confidence.

[Maul]

Yeah, man, I met a few ninjas before.

[Rory]

And what is the criteria of being a ninja? Like, I actually don't even know the real definition of what a ninja is.

[Maul]

All right, so let me tell you how you first know when somebody's a ninja. You ever have one of your boys sleep over your house and you never hear him walking around?

[Rory]

Yes.

[Maul]

That nigga's a ninja. He's a ninja.

[Rory]

No, he's stealing.

[Maul]

No, a ninja. Ninjas are light on their feet. You never hear them coming. You don't. You don't see them leave. That's a ninja.

[Rory]

Oh, and I'm. I'm out by the first. The first one after Maris.

[Maul]

Rory.

[Damaris]

Walk like a elephant.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Maul]

For real? Oh, yeah. Yeah, you got a hard walk.

[Rory]

Yeah, I'm heavy.

[Damaris]

Yeah. No, and he always speed walk everywhere. Don't be going nowhere. Why are you speed walking from the elevator to your desk right there? I'm like, chill out, cuz.

[Rory]

Time is our only currency.

[Maul]

I'm gonna start using that when it ain't got nothing to do with nothing. Because time is our only currency.

[Rory]

If you think about it, though.

[Maul]

Yeah, you're right.

[Rory]

That's all we have.

[Maul]

Right? Yeah, I get it.

[Rory]

All right, so the functions of a ninja. This doesn't give me, like, what it takes to, like, graduate from ninja school.

[Maul]

I just told you, you got to be able to walk. Like.

[Rory]

Is Dragonfly Jones a ninja 100.

[Maul]

He's the top ninja. Have you never seen your art?

[Rory]

You could see in the dark?

[Maul]

You never seen his work?

[Rory]

He's the top I've seen him jump on top of.

[Maul]

Yeah, there's ninjas out here, man.

[Rory]

Oh, yo, I thought Maul was really just joking around. You must be born into a ninja family. I really thought she was joking.

[Maul]

No.

[Rory]

When one is born into a family of ninja descent, they will learn the ways as soon as they are able to move.

[Maul]

Yeah, you have to. You got to be born into that. That's not something you just.

[Rory]

Some guys have all the luck.

[Maul]

Yeah, you got to be born into it. You never. The old movies, the old Chinese movies, comic book movies where they put the baby down on the floor, and then on one side they got the ball, and on one side he got the samurai. And if the baby crawls and goes to the ball, they kill the baby. Yeah, they like, yo, you're not a ninja. You wanna go Play with toys and shit. Get out of here.

[Rory]

That's pretty rational to me.

[Maul]

Yeah, that's how you do it. That's how you weed out the weak ones.

[Rory]

What was funnier of white people in history? Making Jesus white or making Tom Cruise the Last Samurai?

[Maul]

Yeah, that's tough. That's tough, that's tough.

[Rory]

Please. Why was that white man? Like, nobody in Hollywood was like, all right, it's Tom Cruz. I know it. But, like, he's just about to.

[Maul]

Maybe this is the wrong script for Tom. Like, maybe we gotta think this one a little, little further through.

[Rory]

Oh, my God. All right, now I gotta think back. If I've ever met a ninja in our neighborhood, maybe we walk past them all the time, then we don't even know.

[Maul]

Definitely walk past a ninja this.

[Rory]

But that's why I don't play, because you never know who's a ninja, who's an MMA fighter.

[Maul]

I'm.

[Rory]

I'm never.

[Maul]

There's levels. There's levels. The ninja never reveals himself, though. Like, you'll never know he's a ninja.

[Rory]

Yeah, but imagine getting into an altercation and that moment when you realize, I'm fighting a ninja.

[Maul]

No, you'll be dead before you realize it.

[Rory]

When you come back, stars, your whole calf cut up.

[Maul]

Yeah, you. By the time you realize you fighting a ninja, you dead.

[Rory]

You got Zorro in your back.

[Maul]

Just a big Z. Yeah, man, ninjas is out here.

[Rory]

I went outside, outside this weekend. Like. Like, where'd you go? I went to Tao.

[Maul]

Oh, God. Oh, why?

[Rory]

I said the same thing in the text, but in my head.

[Maul]

Like, it must have been somebody's birthday party. Birthday dinner.

[Rory]

Austin Mills at a show at the Edge.

[Maul]

Okay.

[Rory]

Which was incredible. We'll get to that. But yeah, it's his label. You know, labels.

[Maul]

Oh, yeah.

[Rory]

Like, yo, we don't do a congratulations.

[Maul]

We're gonna get you a go to town whole dinner. Yeah.

[Rory]

And Austin's like, where do you think it is? If it's a label, it's a Tao. Yeah, I'll see at 9:15.

[Maul]

You know, the table too. You know exactly what.

[Rory]

Oh, yeah, we was one next to the fountain in the back.

[Maul]

Yeah, that same table.

[Rory]

So I saw Greer randomly.

[Maul]

Okay.

[Rory]

Yeah, it was good to see Greer, who's been in some of our sketches. But yeah, Tao is still the exact same. Like, nothing has changed whatsoever.

[Maul]

I saw. I saw Greer in the movie with Tiana, but Tiana was the parent and she had put a kid up for adoption or she had really.

[Damaris]

Oh, Greer was in the movie that's so random.

[Maul]

I hit it with the leo. I was like, yo, that's Greer.

[Damaris]

Oh my God, look at Greer.

[Maul]

Yeah, she was in that movie. Yeah, she was like the neighbor. She had a quick, quick little scene. But yeah, Greer got her off.

[Damaris]

I was like, okay, that's what's up, Greer.

[Rory]

So it's funny. What? What? Greer was. All right. So you know in like the boiler rooms and all the DJs now, they have everybody that's like jumping up and down, like behind them.

[Maul]

Yeah.

[Rory]

So Austin had a friend that was like getting the click together to be that. So Greer, was that for Austin in the background?

[Maul]

Oh, okay.

[Rory]

Met us at Tao and then we all went up.

[Maul]

Okay.

[Rory]

To the Edge. Which, by the way, that's my first time. Have you ever been to the Edge? For those that don't know in New York, it's in Hudson Yards. It's got like the big ass balcony. It's like the highest point. Touristy as. I didn't know they threw fucking EDM parties there at night. Shit started at midnight. It was a sight to see. Not just. Not just the sights. It's good to see Austin, not just the skyline. Yeah, I don't think I'm cut out for. For EDM parties.

[Damaris]

Well, were you sober?

[Rory]

There was tequila, but I should have been on that. Ain't like when I went with Wheezy, we took Molly and I had a blast. This was like very much white EDM jump up and down boiler room type shit. And me and my man Ant were talking. We may never forgive Austin for some of the remixes that he. I don't ever want to hear Money, power, respect in the EDM form. It was like tech Austin's podcast. Let me get your id. You're not from Harlem anymore.

[Maul]

Yo, Austin, what they got you doing?

[Rory]

Austin. No, Austin.

[Maul]

Austin.

[Rory]

Smoke the show. The show is incredible. It's also. It's also so fun to like see your friends have fans like that. Like, it's like this has been my friend forever. Like, it's so cool to see that Austin's mom was there, his pops is there, his brother. Like, it's always fun to see that, but it's just like hilarious sometimes of like watching all these TikTok white chicks, like, lose their mind because Austin is doing Mace welcome back with on it.

[Maul]

Yeah, but that's not. We didn't. Austin. We don't need that though.

[Rory]

That's his lane. But the music he makes is really good. But he does that at the party and they.

[Maul]

Oh, they love it. I didn't know he was gonna put mace over the edm, though.

[Rory]

Yeah, saw. Saw the same ex that I saw after the little brother show. It's destiny at this point.

[Maul]

What you feel about it?

[Rory]

It was easy to spot because.

[Maul]

Don't just give me no. Go, go, go deeper. Pause. What you feel about that?

[Damaris]

I feel like if you keep running into the same lesson over and over again, you haven't learned it yet.

[Maul]

It cuz.

[Rory]

Cuz time is our only currency.

[Maul]

Wait, hold on, hold on, hold on. Cuz. Y' all don't hear peach though. Y' all don't hear.

[Rory]

Dam. That's Damaris's version of saying you should beat again.

[Maul]

Baby. You say that again. What?

[Rory]

Who said I want to give you lesson.

[Maul]

Give me that one more time.

[Damaris]

You keep running into. If God keeps handing you the same lesson, it's cuz you haven't learned it yet.

[Rory]

And we were. We were close to God. We was real high up.

[Maul]

That's the closest you can get to God in New York City. You was at.

[Damaris]

Yo mom.

[Rory]

So.

[Maul]

So maybe yo, imagine taking a girl to the edge and be like, yo, you ain't gonna get this closer to God. This is it. This is it.

[Rory]

The only thing, when she walked in, like, it didn't play in my head, like, God sent me an angel from the heavens above.

[Damaris]

Send you an angel to mention broken heart from being in love.

[Maul]

Right? Yeah. Oh, who's that?

[Rory]

Amanda Perez. Holy Austin should have done Amanda Perez. EDM replacement.

[Damaris]

Oh, no, that would have been fired. Text him me an angel. EDM is really fire.

[Maul]

I feel like that exists. I feel like that's already a thing.

[Rory]

I'm sure it is.

[Maul]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Rory]

That was the first song song ever.

[Maul]

Slow dance to send me an angel.

[Rory]

Seventh grade.

[Damaris]

Mine was Tiny Sha Kelly. I wish you love me.

[Maul]

Mod was what's the greatest things. I think we're alone now. It doesn't seem anyone around. That was my. Who was. What's her name? Tiffany. I think her name was like, Tiffany something.

[Damaris]

No clue, Right?

[Maul]

What was Josh, you know, that's old school, though. Tiffany, right?

[Rory]

Just straight up Tiffany.

[Maul]

I think we're alone. When that came out, 87, the way.

[Rory]

You'Re singing, it feels like it has a much faster BPM.

[Maul]

Josh came out of 67. That did not come out in 67.

[Rory]

The video doesn't look like it came out in 67. So that's a remake of a song.

[Maul]

That came out in 67.

[Rory]

Oh, okay.

[Maul]

Oh, okay. All right.

[Rory]

Oh, they did a little Elvis trick on It. All right. Well, yeah, it was. I had to get out of there by 2am it was. It was getting. It was getting too crazy.

[Maul]

Yeah, I. I can't do Shout out to Austin. Oh, man, he's doing dope.

[Rory]

Yeah. And then yesterday I went to, like, a birthday slash family reunion type thing for the family I used to live with, the Jamaican family. It was great to see everybody dope. Saw hilarious photos of myself that I've never seen before in my entire life.

[Maul]

Yeah.

[Rory]

And, yeah, it was just. It was good to catch up with everybody. It's crazy. Watching.

[Maul]

Watching you in that picture was like watching Tom Cruise in the last. Yo, you was the last bumble clot.

[Rory]

The last body.

[Damaris]

Mind, can you insert the picture right here?

[Maul]

The last bumble.

[Rory]

I'm trying to tell these people I'm protected, but they don't believe me.

[Maul]

Yo. Being the last bumble clock.

[Rory]

Yo. But all their kids. All their kids are, like, grown now. Who I lived, like, with Uncle Devin, Uncle Richie. I called him Grandpa. Like, all their kids are in their twenties, and watching them twerk at a. A pool party slash birthday slash reunion was just like, dude, I remember you guys were this tall. Like, please put some pants on.

[Maul]

Oh, man, that's hilarious.

[Rory]

Yeah, it was. It was a lot. But it was really, really cool to see everybody. Yeah. This was.

[Maul]

Which one of the gentlemen in this picture is now serving a life sentence?

[Rory]

Uncle Richie, second to the left. Which for a body he did not commit.

[Maul]

Free Uncle Richie, man. Yeah.

[Rory]

To the right with the. With the braids.

[Maul]

Free Uncle Richie.

[Rory]

Yeah. But his son and I are still super cool. But. Yeah, no, they're. They're really, really great family. It was good to see everybody, but, yo, I forgot just how funny that family is and how wild they are. Like, everybody can see you in public. This is a crime. Which.

[Maul]

No, it's not. Ain't nobody calling the cops over here, yo.

[Rory]

When I was living at their house, I used to. When I walk out of the house, because the cops used to sit out their house 24 7. The amount of times the cops would bring me, like, literally bring me into the back of the car like, what are you doing in there? I'm like, I live there. Like, no, what are you doing in there? I live there. Can you guys please stop doing. There'd be a whole new set of officers. Same thing would happen again. Like, I live there.

[Maul]

There.

[Rory]

There's nothing. I promise you.

[Maul]

There's nothing. Should have told me was the last bumble clock. Oh, y. Don't know who I am. Soon as I walk out your bumba clock.

[Rory]

Well, yeah, I had a good weekend. It was. It was good to. To get out and, you know, stretch my wings.

[Maul]

Dope. It was good weather this weekend.

[Rory]

Yeah. I took my shirt off. I don't get much of a tan, but, you know.

[Maul]

Yeah. So just take your shirt off.

[Rory]

It happened. But Damaris, I know you were recovering.

[Maul]

Bed rest.

[Damaris]

I did not leave my house all weekend.

[Rory]

Oh, that's not fun.

[Maul]

No. Why?

[Damaris]

It ain't? What's fun about leaving your house?

[Rory]

I don't do it often, but.

[Maul]

No.

[Damaris]

Had a ball succession food, cleaned, washed my hair. Like I just spent time with myself. It's been a very busy summer. I did not expect my summer to go the way that it did. So.

[Rory]

Didn't you say at the top of the summer like this was we outside summer?

[Damaris]

Yeah. I regret that. You know, it's like some shit you just.

[Rory]

Can we find that clip and then put it when it's right there? Some shit you just. Yeah, no, I regret those words.

[Maul]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Some. You just shouldn't speak into existence like this has been a lot. It's been a lot of traveling, a lot of running around. I'm tired.

[Rory]

Yeah. Well, since we've seen you, which I told you off, Mike, that Cardi B was cursing me out on Thursday night at midnight. I was praying to God that imaginary players was good just so I could save my own mental health and my own phone for messages that I was gonna get.

[Maul]

What did you think?

[Rory]

I'm honestly saying I do like the record.

[Maul]

Record.

[Damaris]

I do.

[Rory]

I think she was talking to. I think it was a cool. A cool flip. Same concept. I think it's a cool girl version of that. I think it's a great record.

[Damaris]

Yeah, I like that she leaned into that because like I've said, that's where Cardi. It separates herself from the rest of the female rappers, is the fashion. She's always been so into fashion the moment she got famous. So, yeah, I'm happy that she leaned into talking her with that.

[Rory]

Yeah, I like the Gloria bars. I like the watch taking the links out. Like she has some. Some bars in there. I think it's a great record for women. And I'm actually glad that they just left the beat kind of as is because, I mean, not even back to the Austin thing, but in general, we've talked about, like, some of these flips are getting ridiculous. Absolutely out of control. So I'd rather her just rap over the original beat than try to flip it and make it something that's not and sound weird, like to imagine a player's drill record. I just don't.

[Maul]

Oh, God.

[Rory]

So that's what I would. I don't think Jay would have cleared that. Very scared that it was going to be that, but I know. I think it's a cool record. I thought the video was great.

[Maul]

Yeah, that's.

[Rory]

That's really my take on it.

[Maul]

Yeah.

[Rory]

I don't know if. I don't know if it's what I really feel or if I'm terrified, but, you know, could be fair. No, I really do like the record and I thought the video was great. Thoughts on the Bronx Legend? You already have imaginary players.

[Maul]

I mean, Jesus Christ. Y' all know I love Cardi.

[Rory]

You can be honest.

[Damaris]

You can be honest.

[Rory]

I had sniffles for this whole time. Now all of a sudden got sinuses.

[Maul]

Y' all know I love Cardi and I'm supporting Cardi. I thought it was cool. Thought it was okay. Yeah, I just. I don't know if BK Tidal Wave would have approved Rest In Peace to Be K Tidal Wave. I don't know if she would have been jacking it like that. I just. You know what it is? I think it's. I just. I don't know. And. And I don't. I try not to listen to, you know, a lot of these newer artists with the same hip hop ears, the same music is that I was raised with only because it's just a different time now. But it's just something about the record that doesn't feel authentic to me. It just feels too placed. It's like they would. It's like almost like chasing. You know, the fact that it's a sample from a song that we all know. Some people didn't even know the song since the first time they ever hearing about Imaginary Player. But it just feels too. I want to say produced. It feels too coached.

[Rory]

Okay.

[Maul]

Like, I don't. I don't. I don't feel what Cardi is saying.

[Rory]

Like, really.

[Maul]

The glory hole line, I thought was. Was hilarious. I thought that was a slick line. I like that. But it's just something about. I didn't like the ad lib. Like, I. I don't like the bitch. Like, I just was like, I. It didn't. It's. This is supposed to be played. It's supposed to be cool. It's supposed to be. It just felt like it was too very. This, like, say this, say this, say this, say it.

[Rory]

Like, punchy almost.

[Maul]

Yeah. I just didn't feel Like, I just didn't believe what she was saying in it. Now, we all know Cardi's successful, and, you know, she's fucking rich, and, you know, she's doing her thing. Like, there's no. We get that part. But it was just something about the song that when we heard the sample was coming, I'm like, okay, cool. Like, you know, legendary, classic record. Not a lot of people touch that record, if anybody has ever done it. So I was looking forward to that. But then when we got it, I didn't. I didn't, like, walk away from the video feeling like, damn. Like, Cardi went up another. She went up a level with this one.

[Rory]

I mean. But do not.

[Maul]

That's what I was.

[Rory]

Delivery. Not coach, per se. But she is. And I don't mean this in a bad way. It is very much like she's reading off the paper. But that's her style. Like. Yeah, but I think that works with her.

[Maul]

I'm not saying that's not even.

[Rory]

Like, I don't like lines. Like, I like those Balenciagas, the ones that look like socks. Like, put. But that's the. I think that's why people like it, because she delivers it that way.

[Maul]

But you can't do that over this sample, because that's not what I mean.

[Rory]

The point of it is.

[Maul]

Yeah, that's not what this sample was. This was very cool. Very laid back, very, you know, play. This was like, Jay was really styling this whole record in a cool way. He wasn't. You know, it wasn't too much aggression. It wasn't, you know, like, you believe what Jay was saying, but.

[Rory]

So you think she should have completely redid imaginary players, like, not put her own twist on it?

[Maul]

No, she could and she did. She put her twist on it. But I'm just saying that. I just feel like just hearing it again, say, I didn't know who Cardi was. This is the first time we hearing this artist. I would be like, yo, but why does she sound like that? Why does it sound like she's punching in every line? You know what I'm saying? Just didn't feel authentic to me. It felt like, who told you to say that? Like, that's how it felt to me. Like, yo, who told you to say that? Yeah, because when you. Even if. And that's the thing that people don't. And I could be totally wrong. You know what I'm saying? I'm open to being wrong. Cardi may have written this herself. She may not have no writers in the studio. When she did this recording.

[Damaris]

Well, that's what it says on the credits. And in the past, when Cardi has had assistance with writing, she's had those writers credited on songs. This one, she's.

[Maul]

So even if she did say she wrote this. Right. You can't read it. Learn the lines, like, live with the. Live with the actual record. So where you're not. It doesn't feel like I'm reading this as I'm rapping this. Because if you're rapping it, you can't be. It's a fine line between rapping and reading. Just the way you say certain. Certain words. The way when you jump off of a word to get into the next word, it's. You know, it's a style. It just has to flow a little more seamlessly. And I feel like this was very. Like, it was very staccato. It was very.

[Damaris]

So I understand. I understand exactly what you're saying. I think the reason why that is. I don't think it has anything to do with reading. I think it's because of Cardi's accent. I think recording songs is a little bit harder for her because I think what she's trying to do is make sure y' all understand her, because she's been criticized in the past for her pronunciation not being that great. And I think that's why it sounds like she's reading it or saying it so hard. Cause she's trying to make it. Make it like she's trying to make y' all hear it.

[Rory]

Yeah, she over enunciates.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Purposely. That's why I think it's been her style. Like, I hear you. It definitely does sound, but I feel like that's always kind of. That. Even Bodak Yellow, to some degree, felt that. I felt like that became her style, which is. She's the only rapper that I can think of that gets away with that and makes it a style. Because I. We've been in the studio rappers, and I've. That's the number one thing I say. Yo, it sounds like you're reading off your phone right now. So you're not rapping. It sounds like you're reading it like you could tell the difference. But I think Cardi has made that her. Her style. Like, that is kind of her.

[Maul]

No. Cause I've heard Cardi's songs where it didn't sound like that. You know what I'm saying? So it's like. Or at least it wasn't as in your face. You know what I'm saying? Like, Obviously, you know, she has an accent that doesn't mean nothing to me. I'm from the same place. I hear that. To me, that's just how people talk where I'm from. You know what I'm saying? It's not even. I don't consider that an accent. Like, when people in LA be like, you got a New York accent. I'm like, what the fuck is that? Like. Like, I just talk Like, I don't.

[Rory]

Well, the funniest thing is when people from LA tell you they don't have an accent.

[Damaris]

Oh, my God.

[Maul]

Oh, yeah. But that's a whole nother thing. So Cardi's accent is not like, I'm from the Bronx, you know what I'm saying? That's so. That is not anything to me. Like, I. I understand that, but it's still. The words. Just didn't. You know. Again, she did a. A good job with the. With the flip, like, the sample. Like, not mad at that, but I just wasn't in love with it. Like, I was. I thought this was gonna take, you know, the Cardi shit up another level. Like, she's gonna look great every time we see her. So visually, everything is on point. You know what I'm saying? We don't ever have to worry about that with Cardi. She's gonna always look good anytime we see her. Like, we get that part. I'm more so on just the music side. I'm a consumer of music, so I'm just listening to the music, and it was cool. I'm not in love with it, but I also don't hate it. I don't hate it, but I'm not in love with it. I'm just like, okay, that was cool.

[Rory]

Do we think September 19th, right? Do we think we'll get another single?

[Maul]

And I.

[Rory]

Correct me if I'm wrong, if she's announced something that I don't know about. Do we think we'll get another single before the album is one month away? I'm on the side that we're gonna get another one. I think they're obviously gonna work this record, but I think week of. Yeah, I can. I can see Week of for. For a video.

[Maul]

Another single. Yeah, I think. No, I think this is the one they was. This was it. I don't.

[Damaris]

I don't think so. And the reason why I don't think so is because this isn't. It's not a commercial enough song for it to be a Cardi's, like, if. For it to be the one that they're leaning on.

[Rory]

I mean, neither was Bodak.

[Damaris]

How many singles actually was an accident? You said what?

[Maul]

How many singles has she given us.

[Damaris]

Already from this album?

[Rory]

Just Outside.

[Damaris]

Yeah, just Outside. This would be the second.

[Rory]

I mean, if you. If you count whopping up, if it's stuck. But yeah. I mean, technically, Outside. Unless they're the only two.

[Maul]

And so y' all think a third one is coming.

[Damaris]

I think the only reason why they put Outside out is because it got leaked. Outside didn't even have a video.

[Maul]

But it was going to be a single. That was definitely going to be a single. Probably 100% that was going to be a single.

[Rory]

But I.

[Maul]

Outside, I think we get one more. It don't get more single than your song being called Outside, I think, because.

[Rory]

We got two singles that are just Cardi, which I appreciate when artists do that type of. I think we're going to get another single with a.

[Damaris]

A big feature.

[Rory]

A. A big feature. Who that is? I don't know, but I. That's what I think. I. I can't see them just having two Cardi singles as is and not. Not putting out one with a big feature before the album.

[Maul]

Who you think the feature will be? I don't know.

[Rory]

It's a good question.

[Maul]

Who does Carter got beef with? Who. Who does she not for? I don't know. The girls beef like that.

[Rory]

Just Nikki, from my understanding.

[Maul]

Yeah, that's it. So she cool with Lotto?

[Damaris]

Yeah, she was just.

[Rory]

Yeah, they got a couple records together.

[Maul]

Still cool with Meg. Right.

[Rory]

But I don't think they'll go. The Meg Cardi. They. They did that with Bongos again, and I'd say it didn't work.

[Maul]

But what about. I don't know. Do you.

[Damaris]

I don't think it'll be a girl.

[Rory]

Yeah, I don't think it'll be a.

[Damaris]

Girl either, unless it's a R B singer.

[Maul]

So who would it be? Like a Gunner or somebody like that?

[Rory]

Nah, I. I would think. I mean, I know she has a record with Scissor already, but I could see like a Scissor or something like that.

[Damaris]

She had a couple records with Scissors Chris. Chris Kaylani.

[Maul]

Jack Harlow.

[Rory]

First of all, that Jack Harlow and Doja record is Fire, and it is. I don't know why we all skipped over that record. That record is dope.

[Maul]

Which record was that?

[Rory]

It was his last single with Doja. They're all in Scott Lake and Drama at the bar in the video went crazy on that. I don't know.

[Maul]

I. I maybe Bad Bunny.

[Rory]

I can see a Bad Bunny Cardi record.

[Maul]

Okay.

[Rory]

Because with J. Balvin's on the last one.

[Damaris]

And B, they're together.

[Rory]

Oh, yeah. They're both on there.

[Damaris]

Yeah, they're both on it.

[Maul]

Bash. Bad Bunny was on there, too. Yeah.

[Rory]

I mean, I'm.

[Maul]

Who would you like to see Cardi do a record with doa?

[Rory]

Yeah, I think her. Her and doa. I can also very much see doi being on this Cardi album for sure. I don't think. I don't think it'll be a single necessarily. But as far as girl rap, be.

[Maul]

A single single, you're not gonna have a dochi verse and then not be a single.

[Rory]

Look at her last album.

[Damaris]

I was gonna say she had all.

[Rory]

Types of verses, and they weren't single. They weren't single.

[Maul]

Yeah, yeah, but they didn't know what that album was gonna do back then, though. They had. Nobody knew what that. Are y' all kidding?

[Rory]

It was like three number one records before it came out.

[Maul]

Yeah, yeah.

[Rory]

I think they knew Atlantic, but I don't know. Maybe Ice Spice.

[Maul]

Well, I'm not mad about that.

[Rory]

I mean, it's. I think Denzel would sample the Peter.

[Maul]

Guns and Lord Tariq joint.

[Rory]

Please don't. There's no. Just no more.

[Maul]

I'm saying if I Spice gonna do it, go back to the stadium.

[Rory]

Nobody needs. Nobody needs to poop on a Peter Guns Lord Tariq record. I'm just saying, like, those beautiful strings and horns, nobody needs to talk about.

[Maul]

Oh, but you thought taking the imaginary play with Renee and Angela Wimbush did you thought that taking. That was the.

[Rory]

Well, I think Jay Z and Cardi B are far better than just rapping about taking shits.

[Maul]

No, I would want to hear hunting Ice Spice do something for the Bronx.

[Rory]

I mean, she's the lead in this Spike Lee movie. Like Denzel may. May get best supporting actor, Ice Spice being the lead. Why? And see, this is why our group chat. Sometimes I get mad at y'.

[Maul]

All.

[Rory]

Why did nobody tell me Ice Spice is acting next to Denzel Washington? Until I got to the studio today, I didn't even out. Now, movie highs and lows. New Spike Lee joint highest to lowest. Highest to lowest. I'm sorry. I was looking.

[Maul]

I ain't gonna lie.

[Rory]

Somebody told looking at the original 1963 film Damaris because I'm very vintage. It's based off High and low from 1963.

[Maul]

Denzel's rapping in this.

[Rory]

I mean, Will Smith set the bar, so he's gonna. He's gonna go on leakers.

[Damaris]

Why Denzel got one earring. And what is this, yo?

[Rory]

This is how gullible I am. When I sat down to watch this clip, Peach goes, yo, you know there's a sex scene between both of them.

[Damaris]

And you believed it?

[Rory]

I was like, what?

[Damaris]

This is.

[Maul]

So nobody's seen the movie?

[Rory]

No. It's in theaters now, and I think it ends up on Apple in, like, two weeks or something. It's one of those.

[Maul]

So you're not gonna go see it in theaters?

[Rory]

No, I think I'll wait two weeks. I love Denzel. I love Spike. I don't know, man. Spike made Ray Allen an okay actor.

[Maul]

Yeah.

[Rory]

I. Spice. This may be her calling. Like, I could be. I was correct for a while on the Ice Spice timeline. But listen, I stand correct, like, shaking Denzel's hand. I've never done that.

[Maul]

Right. Bum. I might. This might be the second movie I go see by myself.

[Rory]

Just to support Ice.

[Maul]

Just to support. Yeah. Support Ice, right.

[Rory]

Take a theater.

[Maul]

Support Denzel. You know what I mean? I might go see this in theater. I might. This might be my second By Myself movie. Yeah. Yeah.

[Rory]

All right. Does she have, like, a. A real role? Well, is she like the penny to James Bond? Like, what?

[Maul]

I don't think she's that.

[Rory]

Okay.

[Maul]

All right. But I'm going to go see it, though. I mean, it's Denzel, Spike Lee. They got classic movies together.

[Rory]

So do you think Spike Lee knew who Ice Spice was?

[Maul]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Yes, Rory, absolutely.

[Rory]

Why would everyone expect Spike Lee to know who Ice is?

[Maul]

Spikely. Yeah. He knew she wouldn't be in the movie if he didn't know who she was. You think her acting got her.

[Rory]

I'm not talking about, like, the rappers that were in Shy Rack.

[Maul]

What do you think got her in the movie? You think that she was like, Denzel saw Spike saw her work before in another film. She's dope.

[Rory]

Respectfully. Do you think Martin Scorsese, like, knew who Action Bronson was to put him in the Irishman, which he smoked that. That last role, like, he killed that five minutes. Spike Lee is. But do you think that Markson was in his.

[Maul]

It was in the Irishman, Remember when.

[Rory]

He goes to shop for his own casket and Action Bronson is the.

[Maul]

The.

[Rory]

The casket seller?

[Maul]

I don't remember.

[Rory]

It's towards the end of the Irishman, he's in a wheelchair, and he goes to go buy.

[Maul]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Rory]

Who's. Who's his casket for? And Robert De Niro's like, Me. And he's like, that's dark.

[Maul]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Rory]

No, Action Bronson killed. Killed that part.

[Maul]

But I could see Scorsese, somebody introducing him, like, yo, you know, he has a great show on television. He. You know, just like that. And Scorsese. Because Bronson. You'll be surprised. The people that Bronson.

[Rory]

Oh, no, for sure. I'm saying, I don't think. Think Scorsese was like, I need Action Bronson. I think somebody made him aware of who it was, for sure. And I think the same thing here. I don't think Spike was sitting there rewriting this screenplay and was like, you know. You know who should do this? Ice Spice.

[Damaris]

I am. Okay.

[Maul]

I think so. I think Spike is more in tune.

[Rory]

Okay.

[Maul]

I think he's more in tune.

[Damaris]

He be acting like Ice Spice is like an underground rapper. That shit is just like, do you think he knows who. Do you think he knows who she is?

[Rory]

No. Okay. I'm sure he has in. In his life. Walked into a store that was playing Munch. I'm not saying he didn't. Not ever see the girl. I don't think he was writing it with Ice Spice in mind.

[Damaris]

Okay, well, that's a completely different thing than what you said.

[Maul]

Oh, yeah?

[Damaris]

Then you don't know who somebody is.

[Maul]

He didn't write that. I think they had a role for Ice Spice.

[Rory]

Somebody was like, ice Spice. Yo, Spike sent a script. You want to do a camera test? You want to, you know, try out for the. I think that happened. I don't think he was sitting there like, yo, I saw that Munch video, and you know, who should play this role?

[Maul]

I feel you. No, I don't think it was that. But I do think that, you know, once the. The script was out, he was. Ice Spice name was brought up. He was like, you know what? Yeah, let's bring up. Let's see. Let's have a read.

[Rory]

I feel like he got the video. Like, somebody said, hey, look at this. It's really not that bad. Yeah, I don't think it was.

[Maul]

I can see that.

[Rory]

That's one of those that you have to show somebody to prove. Like, this is. This is okay. I promise.

[Maul]

I'm gonna go see, though. I'm go check it out.

[Rory]

Yeah, and congrats to Ice Spice.

[Maul]

I mean, I'm not gonna ask somebody to come with me, because that's just. I don't think anybody would.

[Rory]

You're Come.

[Maul]

Come with me to see that.

[Damaris]

I just.

[Rory]

You live in Vermont. Like, yeah, we. We can't Go to this.

[Maul]

That's why it's okay to go to the theater by yourself when you live outside the city. It's like. It's cool.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Maul]

But, yeah, I'm gonna go check it out.

[Rory]

And yes, again, congrats to Ice Spice. Because acting with Denzel, who can say? How many people can say that? So I think that's fire. I'm looking forward to the movie.

[Damaris]

Have either of you seen weapons or F1? No one.

[Maul]

F1, the racing movie?

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Maul]

No, I didn't see. I heard it was great, though.

[Rory]

Wait, F1's not the one where the kids that played the video games then start driving for real?

[Damaris]

No, but I saw that. I like that. That was on Netflix. That was really good.

[Rory]

I really like that movie.

[Damaris]

And the real race car driver is really cute. I followed him on Instagram.

[Maul]

Is that your way of trying to pitch it to us, that we should go see it?

[Damaris]

No, that's different, though. But F1. I was just wondering if you guys have seen it, because I want to go see it. And weapons. I'm hearing good things about them both.

[Maul]

Which one is Weapons?

[Damaris]

The one with the kids disappeared from the beds or something like that.

[Maul]

That. The horror movie. They're all running in security cameras.

[Rory]

This is a plot about Ice.

[Maul]

I didn't see that. Who's in it?

[Damaris]

Rory.

[Maul]

Rory's in it?

[Damaris]

No, he made an inappropriate joke for the time.

[Maul]

You have time.

[Rory]

Yo. Finding that out, like, yeah, no. Premiered on Netflix. You know, my memory be bad sometimes.

[Maul]

To be like, yo, what the. Nick Cannon is in it? Was that just Nick Cannon I just saw?

[Damaris]

Yeah, but. Yeah, this is just about a bunch of kids disappear from their bed. They were all in the same classroom and.

[Maul]

Yeah, but a bunch of kids disappeared from their homes, and they went to the same school.

[Rory]

Oh, yeah, this. Is this a Alex Jones film? An Alex. Alex Jones joint.

[Maul]

Alex Jones joint, Yeah.

[Rory]

I mean, I'm sure it'll make as a parent.

[Maul]

Is it on Netflix or theaters?

[Damaris]

Theaters.

[Maul]

Weapons. That's, like, amazing reviews.

[Rory]

Yeah, it's been chosen.

[Maul]

It's out. Damn. So I got three movies to go see by myself. Well, two.

[Rory]

Yeah, but that. You have to time it right where you can pay for one and then just walk.

[Maul]

Come on. I'm a vet talking to. I might have originated that plan. Right, There you go.

[Damaris]

Miss, like, the first 15, though. Or one of them.

[Maul]

Nah, if you're not. If you do it right, you could take this whole summer off. If you do it right, you could take the whole. If you do it right. Baby, to get in there around noon. You catch that 2:33 for sure. Right on time. Soon as they finish vacuuming, sit right.

[Rory]

Now at the Newport Mall. The exit goes past the bathrooms and like, you could just open the door. The exit is where all the bathrooms are. You could literally just open the door and go in and sit and watch seven movies and nobody would be the wiser. It's like the dumbest plan. And there's every theater that has the bathroom on the other side of just asking, like, can I use the bathroom before I. I buy tickets and get food and all that. And you think that 16 year old kid gives a.

[Maul]

Did you know that they're not paying to get on city buses no more? You can literally just walk on the bus. Back door. No, the front door. I'm from the.

[Rory]

I'm from New York.

[Damaris]

Back door.

[Maul]

Yeah, I'm from that era. No, you can literally walk right past the driver.

[Rory]

But why?

[Maul]

What do you mean why?

[Rory]

Is there like a new rule?

[Maul]

No, this is out here.

[Rory]

That new socialist mayor that they're talking.

[Maul]

About, they just doing whatever they want. You just literally walk on the bus and just, just go sit down. Like, don't have to pay.

[Rory]

That's probably.

[Maul]

That blew my mind. Like, yo, we used to have to hang off the back of the bus to get like.

[Rory]

I never did that when I was.

[Maul]

You never hung off the back of a city.

[Rory]

I was too, man.

[Maul]

Oh, you're not New York. They was doing that in Bronx.

[Rory]

I know. I've seen my friends hang on the back of the train before.

[Damaris]

Oh, they did it for a year. Yeah, for September. September 24, 2023 to August 31, 2024. Five MTA bus routes were free, fair, free.

[Rory]

They don't check.

[Maul]

Like, they don't give a. They don't. Yo, Damaris, I'm telling you some real. You can literally walk on the bus and not like right past the driver. He don't even look at you.

[Damaris]

Them in Jersey don't allow that shit.

[Maul]

New Jersey transit, they like, no, no, that's different. The NJT and the MTA is two different things. Two different things. But I've seen people and I'm just looking like, nobody's paying. Like, they literally just walking on the bus. And I was like, you know what we had to do to rob I for free on the bus when I was like in high school, you had to risk your life. You had to either hang off the back of the bus or like go get, go through the back door and like, hope he don't look at that little mirror and, like, just kind of stay right there.

[Rory]

Like, I mean, I still do this to this day sometimes when I just, like, need a rush. But when. For the Long Island Railroad from Penn Station, just sit in the bathroom to Woodside, and then they stop checking tickets.

[Maul]

Oh, yeah.

[Rory]

No, literally, just sit in the bathroom, and then you get into Jamaica for. For free. Five minutes instead of an hour and a half on the J. Nah.

[Maul]

I feel like, though, the last time I did on the Metro north, like, we was pulling up to my stop, and I opened the door to get out. Ticket man was standing right there that waited for you to come out. I was like, damn, man. All right, man. It let me. And you got to pay more when you buy the ticket on the train versus when you. I just felt like an idiot. I was like, all right. Yeah, man. That's what I get for being slick.

[Rory]

And even, like, long. I remember my dad would always. Well, I think they changed the age thing. This was a long time ago. Would always lie about my age. I. I'd be seven years old. Be, like, 92.

[Maul]

That's better than. That's better.

[Rory]

What are you doing, dad?

[Maul]

That's better than my uncle. I told you my uncle told the baseball players in the south that I had cancer.

[Rory]

Wait, wait. You never told us. All the years that I've known you, I went to.

[Maul]

I never said that. I went to double A game in Virginia, Right. I think it was. No, it was. It was in. In North Carolina. North Carolina. Raleigh.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Maul]

Went to a double A game. It might have been aaa, but I went to one of those farm league games, and my uncle took me, and we had caught up. We had caught a foul ball. So at the end of the game, when the players was going into the dugout, he wanted the players to sign my ball, so he started telling the players I had cancer. So, you know, you got to see the plays. Like, they walking into the dugout first. I'm like, you saw my nephew. He has cancer. So you can see them, like, just wanting to get. I think they lost, too. But once somebody says that you don't want to be the player that just didn't sign the cancer patient. So, like, they. They go down into the dugout, they hear him saying. Then they come back up to dugout.

[Rory]

Did anyone inquire of, like, what type of cancer it was?

[Maul]

I was young, and you looked healthy. I'm sure I was, like, seven, eight years old. Like, I was a kid. I was like. But I remember him saying, And I was like, in my mind, I'm like, no, I don't. But fuck it. I got a whole base for the whole team signed to baseball. So it was all good.

[Rory]

Chris DiStefano, who we've had on the show, had told this story I forgot, either on his own podcast or someone else's, of his dad there at Yankee Stadium, trying to sneak down the lower seats like we all used to do. And his dad told the ticket guy, my kid has special needs, and they let him go. I was like, we all have the same dad. Everybody has the same dad. I used to think it was just my dad. And when Christy, I was like, all right, cool. Everybody else's dad was like, this.

[Maul]

By any means, we gotta get down there.

[Rory]

But it's all in, like, good. That's good, dad.

[Maul]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Rory]

Are you being a good parent?

[Maul]

I mean, I don't know if he should have put cancer on me, but, you know, whatever. The whole. The whole team signed the ball. We was good going back home.

[Rory]

So what would be so funny is if, like, one of those players, like, remembered that exchange and now watched the pod and was like, yo, I'm so. I'm so glad Mal Beat canceled.

[Maul]

That's crazy. That would be funny. You know how crazy that would be for a player to remember me from back then?

[Rory]

What a redemption story. How come he never talks about how he had cancer at 7 years old? He didn't even talk about it. What a humble soul. So strong.

[Maul]

So strong.

[Damaris]

Brave. So brave.

[Maul]

So brave. So brave. That guy is.

[Rory]

Maul. Have you ever been walking down the concourse and go by the cinema or whatever that weird mall is, no pun intended, and see a phone ad and go, wow, what a great price.

[Maul]

Every week.

[Rory]

Every week you walk the concourse every week.

[Maul]

I can't tell you. Every week.

[Rory]

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[Rory]

So what happened at Chappaquiddick? Well, it really depends on who you talk to.

[Maul]

There are many versions of what happened.

[Rory]

In 1969 when a young Ted Kennedy drove a car into a pond and.

[Damaris]

Left a woman behind to drown.

[Sarah Spain]

There's a famous headline, I think in.

[Rory]

The New York Daily News it's Teddy Escapes, Blonde Drowns.

[Sarah Spain]

And in a strange way, right, that sort of tells you the story really became about Ted's political future, Ted's political hopes.

[Rory]

Will Ted become president?

[Maul]

Kappaquiddick is a story of a tragic death and how the Kennedy machine took control.

[Sarah Spain]

And he's not the only Kennedy to survive a scandal.

[Rory]

The Kennedys have lived through disgrace, affairs.

[Maul]

Violence, you name it. So is there a curse? Every week we go behind the headlines and beyond the drama of a man. America's royal family.

[Sarah Spain]

Listen to United States of Kennedy on.

[Damaris]

The iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast or wherever.

[Sarah Spain]

You get your podcast.

[Rory]

Get fired up, y'.

[Maul]

All.

[Sarah Spain]

Season 2 of Good Game with Sarah Spain is underway. We just welcomed one of my favorite people and an incomparable soccer icon, Megan Rapinoe to the show and we had a blast. We talked about her recent 40th birthday celebration, Co hosting a podcast with her fiance sue, bird watching former teammates retire and more. Never a dull moment with Pino. Take a listen. What do you miss the most about being a pro athlete?

[Rory]

The final.

[Sarah Spain]

The final and the locker room. I really, really like you. Just you can't replicate. You can't get back. Showing up to the locker room every morning just to talk. We've got more incredible guests like the legendary Candace Parker and. And college superstar AZ Fudd. I mean, seriously, y', all, the guest list is absolutely stacked for season two. And, you know, we're always going to keep you up to speed on all the news and happenings around the women's sports world as well. So make sure you listen to Good Game with Sarah Spain on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports.

[Rory]

Hello, puzzlers. Let's start with a quick puzzler puzzle. The answer is Ken Jennings appearance on the puzzler with A.J. jacobs. The question is, what is the most entertaining listening experience in podcast land? Jeopardy. Truthers who say that you were given all the answers believe in. I guess they would be conspiracy theorists. That's right. Are there Jeopardy Truthers? Are there people who say that it's. That it was rigged?

[Maul]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Ever since I was first on, people are like, they gave you the answers.

[Maul]

Right.

[Rory]

And then there's the other ones, which are like, they gave you the answers and you still blew it. Don't miss Jeopardy Legend Ken Jennings on our special game show Week of the Puzzler podcast. The Puzzler is the best place to get your daily word puzzle fix. Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, I'm Kurt Browneler.

[Maul]

And I am Scotty Landis. And we host Bananas, the weird news podcast with wonderful guests like Whitney Cummings.

[Rory]

And tackle the truly tough questions. Why is cool mom an insult? But mom is fine.

[Maul]

No, I always say cool. Kurt's a fun dad.

[Rory]

Fun dad and cool mom. That's cool for me.

[Maul]

We also dig into important life stuff, like why our last names would make the worst hyphen ever.

[Sarah Spain]

My last name is Cummings. I have sympathy for nobody.

[Rory]

Yeah, mine's Brown Oler, but with an H, so it looks like brownhoehler. Okay. That's okay. Yours might be worse. We can never get married.

[Maul]

Yeah. Listen to this episode with Whitney Cummings and check out new episodes of Bananas every Tuesday on the exactly right network.

[Rory]

Listen to Banana is on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Also, over the weekend, Chance Starline came out. I mean, obviously we did the episode with him that's about chance, but I listened to it on. On DSPs again.

[Maul]

Chance the Republican two gender chance.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Maul]

Two gender.

[Rory]

You.

[Damaris]

You really tried to.

[Maul]

Us two.

[Damaris]

You tried to jam him up?

[Maul]

Yes. How he said it. I just Recognized the Republican in him. I was like, I get it. Yeah, you don't want to pay taxes. I know.

[Rory]

It's so funny, like when you just catch yourself saying something so innocent like, wait, I can't say.

[Maul]

Yeah, but that's. What. But. That's the. But what. But why. You see how natural that was for him to say that? Like, why does he have to apologize for that?

[Rory]

Like he was in a two gender relationship. So that's where. That's where his mind went.

[Maul]

Yeah.

[Rory]

But of course he, he's fine with everything.

[Maul]

So. Shout out to Chance the Republican on his new album, Starline.

[Rory]

Chance the Republican is hilarious.

[Maul]

New album. New album Star. I like this album, man.

[Rory]

Like a Democratic politician in Chicago or something.

[Maul]

Is he.

[Rory]

I'm pretty sure his pops is like some. Not city council, just something within Southside Chicago. He's a prominent member of something I think with.

[Maul]

Oh, okay.

[Rory]

Government. Ken Bennett, the mayor. Aid to the mayor in Chicago.

[Damaris]

And then Senator Barack Obama.

[Maul]

That, that guy.

[Rory]

Then he became president.

[Maul]

Right?

[Rory]

Or that's a different. There's. There's a senator one and there's a present one.

[Maul]

Well, yeah, he was a senator before. He's president.

[Rory]

Okay. The same, Same guy.

[Maul]

Same guy. Okay. I don't think.

[Rory]

I mean, it's a common name in Chicago.

[Maul]

You didn't put that whole.

[Rory]

It's a common name. What do you want from me? John Smith, Barack Obama, it's all the same. Ken Bennett.

[Maul]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Rory]

But I can't say enough about this project. Really good. Not because he was here.

[Maul]

Like, no, this is the first chance. This is the first album where I could really say like, I'm, I'm. I listened to it like, and enjoyed it. Like his. A lot of Chances music. But I told him that it's not like I'm talking.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Maul]

A lot of his music, you know, it wasn't really. I don't know where to play it. It's like, I don't. What do I listen to this at? But this, this, this Chance album, though, a lot of good music on there. A lot of stuff that I could listen to. So shout out to Chance, man. I like, I like this part project.

[Rory]

Yeah. Also over the weekend I saw. I didn't listen to the Spaces, but apparently there was a. A real hip hop spaces going on.

[Maul]

A real hip hop.

[Rory]

Real hip hop.

[Maul]

Okay.

[Rory]

And. And shout out to Glasses Malone. He was on there, apparently. And again, I don't have all the details here. I just saw the aftermath. Apparently J. Cole was not hip hop because he went to College.

[Damaris]

They've been saying that, though J. Cole.

[Maul]

Isn'T hip hop because he went.

[Rory]

Def Jam was founded in NYU dorm.

[Maul]

Yeah. Like, what do you.

[Damaris]

That's. That's not new. That's not new rhetoric at all, really.

[Maul]

JCole isn't hip hop because he went to college.

[Rory]

I remember seeing people like, yo, I wish you would stop rapping about student loans. Cole, you're on your third album. You're like a multi millionaire. Like, don't tell me about student loans.

[Damaris]

That was a good time.

[Rory]

But I've never seen anyone say, because you went to college, you're not hip hop.

[Maul]

Yeah. Y' all know why I think J. Cole ain't hip hop. But not because he didn't went to college, though. Like, that's stupid. Stupid.

[Rory]

I mean, bad timing is puff hip hop because he broke big at Howard's.

[Maul]

Yeah. I mean, I don't. That's. That's because somebody.

[Rory]

And I don't know if that was a direct thing, but you know how Twitter takes one little sentence and then makes a whole random conversation about it? I don't know if that was the exact thing, but that was the consensus of the argument afterwards of that spaces. And it's just the wildest thing in.

[Maul]

The world to me. Yeah, that's just. I. I think that's just people looking for engagement. That's just stupid. J. Cole is definitely hip hop, even though he went to college. Again, my feelings aside, what doesn't make.

[Rory]

You hip hop about college?

[Maul]

Yeah.

[Rory]

What happens when you. When you get there?

[Maul]

Like, people don't realize college is just high school. You just sleep there. You just sleep there. Like, I just sleep on the campus, like, but there's not much difference than a high school. And I never went to college, but I was there enough to know, like, this is high school.

[Damaris]

And the amount, at least the first two years.

[Maul]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Of rappers that went to college that just don't talk about it. You'd be very surprised. Yeah, like. Like a lot of rappers said, who?

[Maul]

Ice Cube has an architectural degree. Ice Cube? Yeah. Ice Cube. Somebody gonna tell me Ice Cube ain't hip hop? Like, none of you.

[Rory]

Ice Cube has an architectural degree.

[Maul]

That makes sense.

[Rory]

Oh, no, it definitely does. But I never knew that rappers that went to college, you know, AI Never lies.

[Maul]

Never.

[Rory]

Oh, we. We knew. Luda did.

[Maul]

Did.

[Rory]

Where? Quali went to what? City college.

[Maul]

It's college.

[Rory]

Yeah. Two chains. Childish Gambino, which, by the way, I was listening to Childish Gambino on a podcast. It was an old one. It was around because of the Internet.

[Maul]

Cool J went to college.

[Rory]

Yeah, probably.

[Damaris]

That doesn't surprise me.

[Rory]

When they probably went to Stony Brook.

[Damaris]

Any say in the back of my mind I hear my conscience call.

[Maul]

Definitely with the Stony Book. He went to Harvard Business School. But that's.

[Rory]

Oh, this is like when they give. Yeah, this.

[Maul]

Been a superstar since he was 17. He was the first rap superstar. When the. Did he.

[Rory]

When did he go to high school?

[Maul]

Yeah, like, when did he go to that. Ll go to. Don't tell me what they gave him after he was LL Cool J. Nah, I'm talking about when moms was like, it's either school or work, and he's, all right, I'm going to school.

[Rory]

But Childish Gambino was an RA and all of that checked out. Like, once he said that on that podcast, I think it was actually one up. I think it was Pete and sucked life. I was like, of course you are an RA Child gives so much RA energy.

[Maul]

Lil Wayne was a no.

[Rory]

Sweetie. We know. Went to usc. Wale played college football for a little bit. I don't think he. He finished. Cameron played ball for. I think it was in Texas, but then came back David Banner.

[Maul]

I could see David Banham being.

[Rory]

What's funny is, as someone that is a. A reformed Kanye, Stan having your album called College Dropout, and I seriously have no idea what college Kanye west went to.

[Maul]

And I'm.

[Rory]

I feel like I know everything about Kanye West. What college did Kanye west go to?

[Maul]

Somewhere in Chicago.

[Rory]

Like, where did he drop out?

[Maul]

Chicago.

[Rory]

Chicago State University.

[Maul]

Art. But this is before he became Kanye the Artist.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Maul]

Okay.

[Rory]

Logic.

[Damaris]

Believe it or not, I would have never guessed.

[Rory]

I actually don't think Logic went to school. That's weird. Meg, that was like, her whole thing, right?

[Maul]

Meg? Yeah, she went to college.

[Rory]

Like, I understand for women and, like, the empowerment of college and all that. Her still going to college after she made it. For what? What are we doing? For what?

[Damaris]

People's careers end all the time.

[Maul]

That's a promise she made to her family that she would finish college.

[Rory]

Oh, all right, so now you're adding that to it.

[Damaris]

But even. Even if she didn't make her. I know retort now, even if she didn't make that promise, why would she stop?

[Maul]

People?

[Damaris]

We see fail rap careers all the time.

[Maul]

Oh, I agree that all the time you fail. The lifespan of a rapper is probably a year. If that exactly.

[Rory]

What was Meg's degree?

[Damaris]

Medical health. Something like health administration or something like that.

[Rory]

Okay, okay.

[Damaris]

Oh, yeah. Health administration. Bachelor of science.

[Maul]

Oh, all right. Yeah.

[Rory]

She work at a call center, and if it don't work out.

[Maul]

Oh, she went to tsu. Okay.

[Rory]

She could do what Ma was doing in the hospitals.

[Maul]

Hey, hey, I. I took pride in what I did. I.

[Rory]

No, you didn't.

[Maul]

Did. I took pride in my work.

[Rory]

What type of pride you took?

[Maul]

I took pride in my work making sure. Making sure the patients got their food and what they wanted to eat. You know what I'm saying? Sometimes they was cool. I run to the store, cuz the, you know, the menu was whacked that day. They'd be like, yo, listen, go give me a calzone. You know what I'm saying?

[Rory]

Did you check their paperwork to see if they could have a calzone?

[Maul]

Nah.

[Rory]

If you're about to die, like, I'm.

[Maul]

Doctor didn't understand why their pressure wasn't dropping. Pepperoni calzones.

[Rory]

Yeah. I mean, they even give death row inmates food before they're about to die. Like, I want to go out. All right.

[Maul]

Yeah, man.

[Rory]

I would, like, if I knew I was about to die, I would definitely appreciate if Maul went and got me a cow.

[Maul]

Yeah, man. I was like, come on, man. What you want, man? All right, I got you, man. I'll be right back. Back.

[Rory]

But back to my dying wish. If I know I'm gonna die, can you go out and get me crack?

[Maul]

Yes.

[Rory]

All right, cool.

[Maul]

I got you. Don't worry about if you out of here. If I know you out of here. All right, man, I gotta get you that.

[Rory]

Imagine smoking crack next to your oxygen machine. Like, just sneaking crack into the facility.

[Maul]

Yeah, you can do that. They be in the hospitals. Why not?

[Rory]

Who be?

[Maul]

Oh, that's everybody.

[Damaris]

It's like a jail.

[Maul]

That's patience. No patience.

[Rory]

And, yeah, I always thought that was like a joke from, like, Happy Gilmore where all the. The old people were getting.

[Maul]

That's like, really no patience. Like. Yeah, it's continental only.

[Rory]

Who is. Wait, all right, so patients are other patients or patients are nurses?

[Maul]

No, they're like their partners, their boy. Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Rory]

And I've done that.

[Maul]

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. You acted surprised. I know you.

[Rory]

I know. I thought it was like.

[Maul]

Like randos.

[Rory]

Like, I thought, like, the nurse game. Like, this was like some porn scene.

[Maul]

Oh, no.

[Rory]

I'm some sick guy and a nurse comes in and I start. I'm like. I feel like that happens.

[Maul]

No, no, no, that's.

[Rory]

Oh, no. I've definitely a significant other in hospital before.

[Maul]

Yeah, that's right. I mean, that's all right. Pull that gown to the side a little bit. Yeah, that's all.

[Rory]

Sometimes that's what they need.

[Maul]

Check your temperature.

[Damaris]

Rectum.

[Rory]

Yeah, yeah.

[Maul]

Listen, man, the doctor will come in.

[Damaris]

Yo, I used to hate that, yo. Like, I hated rectal thermometers, bro.

[Rory]

I don't ever. I have no remembrance of ever having a thermometer mask.

[Maul]

I could call my dad right now. He would tell you the story about how I cursed out everybody in the house console when he was trying to do that. Say, your dad, do not let him stick.

[Rory]

How old are you? Like 30.

[Damaris]

How old were you?

[Maul]

No, I was a kid cursing out everybody like, don't let him stick that in my butt. I wasn't playing that check, yo. Just give me that. Put it under my tongue, dog. You're not putting under my ass to check my. What type of kinky is this? Well, I'm not that sick.

[Damaris]

It's more accurate.

[Maul]

We ain't got to be. I'm not that sick. I'm all right. Let's get a little cold. You ain't gotta stick.

[Rory]

That's why we. We drink through our butts, too. Like, to get drunk or remember.

[Maul]

No, I don't remember nobody doing that.

[Rory]

Didn't we talk about that?

[Maul]

No. Oh, the tampon.

[Rory]

Yeah, the tampon.

[Maul]

And then. Oh, yeah. That's crazy. I don't believe that, though. I don't believe people did that. For real.

[Rory]

But how old was you? Cuz I had that happen, and that was the first time I've ever even seen somebody. I thought that was, like, almost a myth. No, I thought it was. I thought it was, like, dogs used to get that.

[Maul]

I might have been five, six years old.

[Rory]

Oh, nah, see, that's. That's King Pinky. A baby.

[Maul]

Baby.

[Rory]

I have no remembrance of ever. I'm sure it happened to me.

[Maul]

I will call my. He will tell you how I was cursing like, yo, do not let him stick that in my butt. Like, what is that? I'm not that sick. It's got a fever like this. My ass isn't hot like, my hair.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Maul]

What happened to the back of the palm here?

[Rory]

Remember they used to do this, like, just right here?

[Maul]

Yeah. Like, you got to stay right here. You got to put no thermometer in my. Get the.

[Rory]

And I've been sitting in this emergency room for three hours. I got swamp ass.

[Maul]

I wasn't. I wasn't with that. I wasn't. Even as a kid, I knew something wasn't right with that.

[Rory]

Like, n. Yeah, no, no, no remembrance of that whatsoever. Of having that done. Do we believe this Freddy and Benny situation? I. I saw there was a video that. I believe it was an airport.

[Maul]

Yes.

[Rory]

That they had ran into each other and that there was some type.

[Maul]

It's always just, oh, you always going to bump into somebody in the airport.

[Rory]

Always in the airport.

[Maul]

Always going to bump into somebody in the airport.

[Rory]

And what's so funny about the airport is everybody. We can't be self.

[Maul]

No.

[Rory]

Like, literally all of us just have to sit here.

[Maul]

Nothing can go down at the airport. Like, we all gotta be on our best behavior. This is. This is federal.

[Rory]

Yeah. That's why I just be laughing. That's how I just know. It's like streamers, rappers, everyone. Like, yeah, I seen his ass in the airport, though. He was at the airport.

[Maul]

Yeah.

[Rory]

You know, what was he gonna do?

[Maul]

You're not doing nothing at that point.

[Rory]

He's gonna get a federal charge immediately.

[Maul]

No, you're not doing that. But Freddie and Benny spoke, you know, if you don't know, they've had their history over the years of. Of, you know, situations and things like that. Back and forths. It got physical. Freddie alluded to some things in his raps on his, you know, couple albums and couple songs, talking about the situation. We spoke to Benny a couple years ago in Atlanta about the whole situation. He was saying, you know, it was. He really didn't understand where it all started from and, you know, what happened, whatever. But it's good to see that they had an exchange. Spoke. But I'm not getting my hopes up because I just. I know how, you know, again, airport. Everybody got to be on their best behavior. And you can say it's all good, whatever, whatever. And then a freestyle come out next month and you back throwing shots, talking slick. Then it's like, all right, you know what I mean? So I want them to, you know, whatever they got going on, piece it up. Two of my favorite MCs, two of my favorite rappers.

[Rory]

Too many mutual friends.

[Maul]

Too, like, like, yeah, so it's, you.

[Rory]

Know, he wanted to set this up at some point anyways. But.

[Maul]

Yeah, and. And they should. It's too many mutual acquaintances, mutual friends.

[Rory]

It was also pointless. I mean, if they would have just rapped cool, whatever. Throw shots at each other. I mean, that alleged footage, which, of course we know it says nothing. Freddy or Benny in Buffalo. We know that didn't really happen. That was just unnamed people. But.

[Maul]

Yeah, but did it have.

[Rory]

Did it have to go like that?

[Maul]

I mean, knowing what I know.

[Rory]

Okay. Maybe you know, more than I do.

[Maul]

Yeah. Knowing what I know. Things. Things.

[Rory]

Fair enough.

[Maul]

Things went, you know, where I'm. Where we're from, when things go there and go to that level.

[Rory]

Got you.

[Maul]

Okay. It's very hard to come back from that. So it was good to see them, you know, talking and trying to piece it up. I would love for them to come to some. Some type of, you know, into this and move forward and, you know, even if they don't work together again, I would love to see them, you know, they got some. Some dope songs together. I would love to see them, you know, rap together again. But even if not, you know, I just. I don't want to see anything happen to any of these. Any of these guys, man. Like, Two good guys. Two. Two talented MCs. You know, it's too much, too much to do out here. Too much, you know, fly to do, Travel the world, make money. We just don't need to see it going any further. So I'm. I'm always with. You know, piecing it up if it can, talking about it, you know, and ending. Ending the. Whenever they can. But again, I just know personally, things went to a place where it's very hard to come back from a lot of times. But hopefully, yeah, I'm hopeful in this situation that they were able to talk about it and, you know, put everything to the side and move forward. Because, again, nobody wants to see beef. Beef is corny.

[Rory]

I don't think I have, like, any, like, real ops, per se. By the definition of op. It's not really, like, on site for anyone. Well, a few people, but not an airport. I've never, like, ran into the weird airport thing the way I hear everyone does, because, I mean, especially if you're, like, during a certain weekend, everyone's going to LAX at the exact same time. That's never happened to me of just, like, running into somebody I don't get along with at an airport. But it would be funny because what are we supposed to do?

[Maul]

Yeah.

[Rory]

In the Delta Lounge, we spoke about.

[Maul]

It when we had him on that time. I had saw Russell and we was on the same flight in Atlanta.

[Rory]

Oh, yeah, I forgot about that.

[Maul]

And I hadn't met Russ at that point. Obviously, I know who he is, and he knew who I was, and we kind of just exchanged faces, and I didn't know if I should say, what's up? You know, it'd be that weird. It's like, I don't know if.

[Rory]

Oh, I've had those moments where it wasn't op shit, but, like, people that, you know, like, we both know, we're aware of each other. Should we say hello? Which is kind of gay.

[Maul]

No, but it was like, I didn't. No, no, no. I didn't know if I had said something about Russ that maybe he didn't like. Cause, you know, that's the thing now. Like, you know, I don't remember a lot I say, yeah, and I say things about artists, like, just as a consumer listening to music. It's nothing personal. It's never personal. And sometimes people don't like what you say about their art, so. And I understand that, but I lose sight of that. So it'd be a lot of times where I said something about an artist maybe a year ago. Totally forgot. Now I'm on a flight, artist walking right past me, and we looking at each other. But it's like, it ain't the look. Like they about to say, what's up? Or I'm about to say, it's kind of like. Like, is you cool? We on the flight, dawg. What's about to happen? Where you sitting at? Cause if you sitting right behind me, I gotta move. Cause I don't even like your energy. But me and Russ had that exchange. But then when we sat down and spoke about it, he was like, yeah. He was like, no, I didn't know. He was like, but you were indifferent about me. And that's exactly what was like. I didn't know. Like, is he cool? Never met him. Is he the person that you say what's up to? He say, what's up back. If you don't know, you. Cause it's weird with artists in the industry. Like, you don't.

[Rory]

Coolest guy ever, too.

[Maul]

Coolest dude in the world. You know what I'm saying? Like, so it's just like, you know, it's little things like that be stupid. It's like, bro, this cool, dude say what's up? It's not that deep. But again, I know sometimes I say things about people and then they hear it. Not about them personally, but about their music. They hear it. They don't like what I said. So now if they see me in real life, it's like, don't say what's up to me. But I don't know because I don't got problems with nobody. So I'm like, what? You know the face men know the face of. He gonna say, what's up back? Or.

[Rory]

Yeah, he ain't.

[Maul]

He ain't feeling you. You know, we Know the face.

[Rory]

Yeah. I mean, I. Once you connect eyes, it's too weird to me to not say something like, yo, what's up, man? Fuck with your work. Like, we never met. Like, I clearly. We locked eyes and know who each other are.

[Maul]

Yeah.

[Rory]

I just feel like that's weirder. So, like, then. Then we end up sitting next to each other.

[Maul]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Yeah. The only time it's backfired is was with your brother.

[Maul]

Yeah. And I felt good. I think I told Russ this. Like, I mean, obviously, Russ got a ton of money, but I was flying first class. He wasn't. So I kind of, like, watched him walk to the back, like, wait. Yeah.

[Rory]

Why? What year was this?

[Maul]

This was, like, 2019.

[Rory]

Russ was a millionaire in 2019 for sure. And I'm not saying.

[Maul]

But we spoke about it.

[Rory]

I've flown economy at the highest money I've ever had in my life.

[Maul]

No, no, no. But we spoke about it with Russ, and he was saying he booked that flight last minute.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Maul]

And he had to just, you know, he had to take whatever seat. But in that moment. Moment, I kind of felt like, you know what I'm saying? Like, yeah, man.

[Rory]

These rappers.

[Maul]

Let me get two orange juices and.

[Rory]

Pass one back to my homie, send.

[Maul]

One back to Russ.

[Rory]

Send a Russell orange juice. This is nuts. Yeah.

[Maul]

Yo, he get two orange juices, send one back to homie with the ponytail, you know? Yeah.

[Rory]

The only time that really happens to me is in, like, artist villages.

[Maul]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Which I like. I've told the Daniel Caesar one, like, anytime I've had beef, it only ends up in an artist village. But even there, it's like, what do we about to do?

[Maul]

Yeah.

[Rory]

And not to say I'm on any tough guy like that, but we're in an artist village. Matter of fact, only Russ beats people up in an artist village.

[Maul]

Russ had a fight in the artist village?

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Maul]

For real.

[Rory]

Pull that up.

[Maul]

Well, who.

[Rory]

I mean, it was a. I didn't even know.

[Maul]

Russ had it, like, a physical altercation with somebody before.

[Rory]

Like, yeah, it was Guap dad. And then there was also a smoke purple one. But the guap dad was at the festival, and. Nah, it was getting a little busy. And then Russ came out, and, I mean, he didn't just send his man. He was getting a little busy.

[Maul]

Russ and Guap Dad.

[Damaris]

That was so random.

[Maul]

What was this about?

[Rory]

And then, like, when you know certain people in Russ's crew, after you see this, it's just. It just makes it funnier for some reason. But, yeah. And then I think it was smoked perp they caught in the club, too. No, there was. At one point, Russ was not playing with y' all the way that Russ doesn't play with y', all with the business side of things. At one point, he was like, I'm not this corny white body.

[Maul]

What do you think?

[Rory]

I'm running down anybody that got something to say, I will fight you. So that was definitely an interesting time. How do you think the Daniel Caesar and me Artist Village fight would have went?

[Maul]

Why would you gonna fight Daniel Caesar?

[Rory]

Remember we had beef?

[Maul]

No.

[Rory]

Yeah, that was. I've told this story before. I went to.

[Maul]

Bro, we've been doing this a lot of years, but I don't remember a lot of.

[Rory]

So it was around the time when he was defending. Yes. Jewels and got canceled. Fake canceled.

[Maul]

Okay.

[Rory]

And he had said that. Oh, Rory probably uses that. Not probably. Rory uses the N word, too.

[Maul]

Because Daniel Caesar said that.

[Rory]

Yeah, we. We had talked about it after that happened, and his response to that was like, well, Rory uses the N word, too. And I was like, bro, I don't even, like, know you. Whatever. I was in whatever that Long beach festival. I don't know if it's still going on. And this was, like, pre Covid. And he was one of the headliners and came up to me in the Artist Village and apologized. He was like, that was whack. I shouldn't have said that shit. Like, I didn't even know you like that. And it was great. No, we became friends after that. That's why when we was in Toronto, when we was on the rise. No, he's. Daniel Caesar's a really, really good person. Good guy, but I respected that, too. Like, yo, I said. I said some.

[Maul]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Like, he tapped my shoulder, and I turned around was Daniel Caesar. I was like, all right. And he was like, bro, I'm sorry. I said some. I shouldn't have said that. Yeah, I thought it was super respectful.

[Damaris]

I'mma call. Okay. Now, when I say I love people, I'll be like, no, I really love them more. Like, you don't love them. You don't know them. Don't go around saying, nah. So and so is a really, really, really good guy.

[Rory]

Oh, my experience. I'm speaking only from my experiences with him.

[Maul]

I've seen Daniel out twice, and it was always, like, good conversation, good energy. Yeah.

[Damaris]

But don't just throw a really, really good guy on people. Cause you done seen a couple people out there and been good energy. And then we come to find out they Wasn't that great guy?

[Maul]

I'm only, like, who?

[Rory]

Only speaking to say some names.

[Maul]

Why not? Come on.

[Rory]

Corrupt.

[Damaris]

How corrupt?

[Rory]

Start speaking out names.

[Maul]

Yeah, we saying names. Russ. I'm saying I sent him an orange juice.

[Rory]

I made Daniel Caesar apologize in front of everybody.

[Maul]

Yeah, like, come on, we saying names here. This is say my name, Pod.

[Rory]

Say my name.

[Maul]

Say my name.

[Rory]

Yeah, it's our intro. Yeah, I hear you. But anytime I say that, I'm saying my experiences with them. But again, I've been minimal. Like, they're not. I don't hang out with Daniel Caesar.

[Damaris]

And I'm not saying that he's not. I'm just saying just be careful who you throw. Same way you don't want to throw bad on people. You don't always want to throw good on people.

[Rory]

Oh, no, it's funny time somebody I thought was good did some. Now you did some.

[Maul]

Yeah, I take. I take my good back. I take my good card back. Give me that card.

[Rory]

Just cuz you good with me doesn't.

[Maul]

Mean you're not a member over there. You're not a member. Get out of here. You out of the club. You out of the he man woman haters club. Get out.

[Rory]

But you and Daniel Caesar are part of the He Man Love yes. Jewels club.

[Maul]

I love. I love. Yes.

[Rory]

Jewels.

[Maul]

Yes. Good, Good peoples.

[Rory]

That's how y' all bonded.

[Maul]

She good peoples. Yeah.

[Rory]

No, man, you and D. Daniel.

[Maul]

No, that's not how we mod it.

[Damaris]

No, you and Danny, shut the up. Yo, like, don't piss me off, bro. Danny.

[Rory]

N step, that name is Daniel Caesar. I call him Dan. That's Dan. Dan.

[Maul]

Yo, that's wild that you call him that.

[Rory]

I don't want Dan.

[Maul]

Dan, Dan.

[Rory]

Call him Seas.

[Maul]

Yo, so genuine SeaWorld. Y' all still on, y'? All.

[Rory]

Wasn't he on the list already, though? We knew this was coming. He was on the isle of the 90s.

[Maul]

Yes.

[Rory]

It's just we now presented by VH1.

[Maul]

Yo, listen, man, this SeaWorld Genuine. I shout out to Genuine for the legend. Genuine. But, like, what we doing with this SeaWorld, man? Like, we really. We supporting them. We back supporting SeaWorld.

[Rory]

No, and I'm not shouting out genuine. I want to shout out Melissa, the orca that's in jail free.

[Maul]

Yo, Free Mel. You say that N. They might clip that and take that. Hold on. That's not what. That's not.

[Rory]

I didn't even connect it until you just stopped.

[Maul]

That's not.

[Rory]

I didn't even connect that.

[Maul]

My bad. Apologies. I Don't. I'm not even trying to put that out there. Free Melissa, the orca.

[Rory]

Like, how do they name the orcas? Because that's up. Like, outside of just like putting them in prison with no charges. Yeah, like there's prisoners. I know some are innocent, but some did that and you belong in jail. They take these. These beautiful creatures that actually don't attack humans unless they're there, put them in there and then rename them. Like that's some real Kuta Kensei. Yeah, like 100. Like that whale's name is not Toby.

[Maul]

No.

[Rory]

Like, what do you think it's pack calls him? Because it's not Melissa.

[Maul]

No, definitely not. Yeah. Renaming an. We got. How do they do that? Is it based on, like, the person that was there to capture them? Like those. The lead trainer or something? Like, like, how do they name.

[Rory]

Talk about, like, when the person that discovers the comet or whatever the. They get to name scientist. Like hurricane.

[Damaris]

Hurricanes. When they be naming the hurricanes and why all the hurricanes be, like, named? Most of them be named after women or do they alternate?

[Maul]

They alternate.

[Rory]

I think it goes in alphabetical order.

[Maul]

It's alphabetical order. Yeah, it's alphabetical order. I think it's what part of the ocean? I think it starts or something like that. I don't know.

[Rory]

I just think, like, some of it know it's a little too on the nose and up. Like, why did you name the hurricane that was going to destroy Far Rockaway? Sandy? Like, why would you like.

[Maul]

Yeah.

[Rory]

What do you think they felt in Rockaway Beach? Yeah, that's Sandy.

[Maul]

That was so insensitive. So, so insensitive.

[Rory]

So many other s names call that Susan.

[Maul]

Hurricanes are named by the World Meteorological Organization, wmo, using a predetermined list of names that rotate every six years.

[Rory]

So you think it's the person that. That decides to turn the weather machine on is the one that gets to name it?

[Maul]

Probably. But names starting with qu, X, Y and Z are excluded because they are considered less common and harder to pronounce. So we won't see hurricane. Yes, Jewels anytime soon.

[Rory]

Wait, harder to pronounce. Dog. When a hurricane is on the way to you, do you give a what.

[Maul]

It'S now Just tell me because I couldn't get that moving. That's all I care about. What's the speed Knots like, what's the knots like? Do I got to get out my house or are we cool? We just got to go get more like canned goods and shit like that. Like, once you tell me leave My home. Then I'm scared.

[Rory]

To me, this is just how they view how stupid the American public is. Because, like, nobody could pronounce Quincy. Like, if Quincy was on the way. If the news said, yo, there's a hurricane coming to you now, you'd be.

[Maul]

Like, yeah, but after.

[Rory]

Not yet. What's his name? Oh, Quincy coming. All right, we out.

[Maul]

But after.

[Rory]

Why was that? Why would the name. Why would we have to pronounce it? It's a hurricane.

[Maul]

It's a hurricane. Just tell us if we got to leave our house or not.

[Rory]

Exactly.

[Maul]

I fell down a crazy rabbit hole. Stumbled upon this story, but I fell down this rabbit hole of Garth Brooks is a serial killer. Wait, all right, have any of y'. All. Have any of y' all seen this?

[Rory]

No, no, no.

[Maul]

So I forgot. So look, I fell down this rabbit hole. Cause it was so interesting. I'm like, what the fuck? Like, so I'm watching this whole thing and come to find out, I think his Tom Segura, that's comedian Tom Square. Yeah, he started. He started this shit, like, years ago. Okay. So he was saying how they, like, somebody went and fucking, like, tracked all of Garth Brooks, like, tour dates, live shows where he lived, and came to find out that in every one of those cities on that day, like, he had a show, a missing person came up. Like, somebody came up missing from each show. And then they was like, yeah, when he got his first big check, got like half a million dollars, he went and brought. Paid like 450,000 for all of these acres of land in this town, I think in Nashville or Tennessee somewhere. He just bought a bunch of land. He didn't have no home, nothing. He just bought land. And after he purchased the land, people started coming up missing. So this thing, like, he's burying the bodies on this land that he bought. It was the. I felt on a crazy. I'm like, I really started to be like, yo, G. Brooks might be a serial killer. Like, every tour date, every city, there's somebody that comes up missing in that city. Like. Like. So I'm really like. And they come to find out Tom Segura started this years ago. He just started this rumor and the Internet ran with it. And I got caught in that rabbit hole.

[Rory]

No, this is, like, really a thing.

[Maul]

No, I was in, like, Rory about.

[Damaris]

To be in it.

[Maul]

No, cuz it. It's the greatest.

[Rory]

I believe it. Out the gate. Any conspiracy out there, it would have.

[Maul]

Been the greatest cover up. Like, yeah, G. Brooks being a serial killer. That don't Seem in America, that don't seem like I could see that. And then people are showing you that, yo, each tour date, each show from each city, a person came up missing from that city.

[Rory]

Dude, what a talent.

[Maul]

It's like, yo, like to have both.

[Rory]

Parts of the brain to be able to be that big.

[Maul]

We've seen this movie, Damaris. We've seen that movie before, for sure. So that's why I'm like. I really started getting into it. I'm like, yo, how come I never. Now I'm mad that I never even heard about this. And then I start looking at it and, you know, find those couple comments you start reading after you watch this whole shit.

[Rory]

Yeah. Which fuck your algorithm up forever.

[Maul]

Somebody's like, yo, Tom Segura, like, started this rumor years ago and is still running with it. And I was like, oh, so is.

[Rory]

All right. Did Charlie Manson walk so Garth Brooks could run?

[Maul]

I don't want to put that on Garth. I'm not saying that he's.

[Rory]

Have you. Have you heard Charlie Manson songs?

[Maul]

Yes.

[Rory]

As a star.

[Maul]

Yeah.

[Rory]

They're beautiful, right? Why MF Doom didn't just do a whole sample project of Charlie Manson Records is beyond me. You guys think I'm joking. Charlie Manson made incredible music.

[Maul]

No, he did. He did. He was telling me. Talented.

[Rory]

He was the original Garth, but his.

[Maul]

Brain was just wired all over the place, man.

[Rory]

Listen, man, he had hoes. What you want from me? He didn't kill nobody.

[Maul]

You tripping, bro. You bugging out. But, yeah, I fell down this rabbit hole of Garth Brooks being a serial killer. And I was. You know, I was happy to find out that Tom Segura just made all of this up years ago, and the Internet ran with it. But it was an interesting. And it was an interesting story, though. This. The story was. The way they sold it was. It was good. This is definitely a movie. They should definitely take this and write a movie about it. Brooks is not a serial killer.

[Rory]

Has anyone seen Garth and Charlie in the same room?

[Maul]

I don't think, no.

[Rory]

The same way JonBenet Ramsey became Katy Perry.

[Maul]

Oh, is that a thing? No.

[Rory]

Yes. It's not real, but, yes. That's a very. Like, a very popular conspiracy theory.

[Maul]

Oh, yeah. Nah, stupid.

[Rory]

You know, conspiracy theories are hilarious once they start, like, putting the noses together and, like, maybe just. They just have the same notes.

[Maul]

Yeah. Taylor Swift breaks the podcasting world. Her episode is currently at 18 million views. Do we believe this?

[Damaris]

Yes. It was at one point when they were. When it was live streaming, like, a Million something. People were live streaming it at one point.

[Maul]

Point.

[Rory]

Josh, I would like you to speak to the volume specifically to Kelly, who we love. Who's.

[Maul]

Who's one of our.

[Rory]

Our bookers over at Volume. She's awesome. Why did Travis get the Taylor Swift interview before us? Can you send an email to Volume now? Legitimate one. CC Me.

[Maul]

That's. That's. That's a tough one. Yeah.

[Rory]

Why would you subject. You mean why Travis Taylor? Like just keep it very short. Short and then actually matter of fact, I like the emails where you put the entire sentence in the subject and then nothing under that. Put. Why did Travis get the Taylor Swift interview before New Rory and Mole and just put NRM and it sends ccs.

[Maul]

Is this on? This is on Travis and Jason's. Jason's podcast. Yeah. New. Is it New heights? Yeah. Okay.

[Rory]

You don't feel a little disrespected?

[Maul]

Nah.

[Rory]

Like you're a swifty. You feel. I feel like she should. It's so cliche to just go with the person you love. Like go with a fan.

[Maul]

Yeah. Go with the people you hate. Taylor, come on over here. Come on over here to the people you hate. Come sit down with us. We'll have some fun. Kick it with you. Let's break another record. You want to really break a record, Taylor? Come on this show. I have a Taylor. Anything but music. I don't even want to talk music with Taylor Swift.

[Rory]

Literally everything people would want us to talk to Taylor Swift about would not be anything I would want to talk about. Like, I would want to talk about. Like do you think Garth Brooks is a serial killer?

[Maul]

Yeah. Like how do you feel about that? And have you met him?

[Rory]

Like J. Ramsey is Katy Perry. Which child that was murdered? Are you?

[Maul]

Right.

[Rory]

That would be what I would want to talk to Taylor Swift about.

[Maul]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Which I'm sure her team would be.

[Maul]

With open arms of that love that. That's a publicist dream right there.

[Rory]

Cuz she speaks all the time. Do you think from what I've seen, the Kelsey seem like a pretty normal family even though they have two sons that are hall of famers. But judging from what I've seen, they seem like a normal family. Do you think Taylor like meshes with that? Regular families, they seem like a. Like a regular Midwest thing.

[Maul]

Yeah. This. This is. I mean this seems pretty natural. Yeah.

[Damaris]

Taylor's whole thing is relatability like outside of her being. That's why she's so famous is because her whole entire stick is. I'm like just the normal like girl, dirty girl next door or like that's her whole thing, so.

[Rory]

All right, but do you think like on Thanksgiving Taylor stays at their parents house or at a hotel? Like you think she shits in the Kelsey house like on Thursday morning?

[Damaris]

Yes.

[Maul]

Okay.

[Rory]

Yeah, No, I respect it. I'm just curious with like these super, super famous people.

[Maul]

Yeah.

[Rory]

When they date people that, you know, probably come from like regular means. Like, is she going to Cleveland and. And holding a. For a whole weekend because she's nervous?

[Maul]

No, no, no. She's.

[Damaris]

You know how big that house that.

[Rory]

Their mother in them is pro in Ohio. I'm. I'm sure they paid a thousand dollar down payment. That's 35 bedrooms.

[Maul]

Absolutely.

[Rory]

I'm sure there's a lot of space. But still, like, even my mom, if I had the money that Travis had, I don't. She wouldn't want like some crazy house, but her star ass. She would definitely want Taylor Swift in the house. Yeah, but I don't know. I think about those types of things with holidays, which is fucked up. And I think I'm becoming the person I hate that's obsessed with celebrity stuff. But I think about that type of weird, weird stuff that.

[Maul]

Where does a celebrity stay for the holidays?

[Rory]

Yeah, like, but what, what's, What's Christmas like with. With Taylor and Travis and their family? Like, how many random cuz. Like, do you stop? Certain people can't come now.

[Damaris]

No, I don't think that.

[Rory]

Because it's a little different now.

[Maul]

It's tricky.

[Rory]

Which is up. Which is very up.

[Maul]

But I could see that being a thing with certain people. Yo, Taylor's coming over for Christmas dinner this year. Like, you can't bring that girlfriend of yours. You can still come. Like cousin, cousin, cousin. Damaris could come, but you can't bring.

[Rory]

You can't bring. Yeah.

[Maul]

All right.

[Rory]

We're on the same page.

[Maul]

And if you do bring him, they need his name, social, they gonna run a background check on him.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Oh, well, things are probably a little bit more interesting.

[Rory]

Security.

[Maul]

It's just a different layer of security. Like your cousins end up being strapped ain't security no more. Like, there's niggas surrounding this entire estate right now, like on the road.

[Damaris]

Well, that's what I'm saying. I'm sure that there's security there there.

[Maul]

But you got to understand like 1000%. You think the record label is letting Taylor go anywhere without security behind her?

[Rory]

Oh, come on. The roof.

[Damaris]

But they're not like sitting at the dinner table.

[Rory]

No, I think they're at the table.

[Maul]

They got it right under the table like this on you. Soon you sit. Soon as you sit down to get another. Another plate of that mash. He got that right.

[Rory]

You remember Sniper when Bradley Cooper is eating at that. That person's house when they're just sitting there eating rice and he finds all the guns like he's strapped up like that at. At the dinner table?

[Maul]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. They not around. That's. That's too much. That's too much money, too much liability walking around that house.

[Rory]

And you got to think too like the. The CIA created psychedelic rock music. That's a fact. All of those bands, fathers worked in way higher places. You don't think the CIA is trying to plant somebody to get close to Taylor? Like they don't have a CIA op that would befriend Travis's second cousin that's been going to Thanksgiving for the. They'll find a way into that. That's why I, I'm curious about that type of stuff because all my cousins, no matter what, even how crazy they are, if Taylor Swift wouldn't date me. That sounds insane, but also me bringing a white woman home would be insane. Even more so. It cancels each other out. But in this hypothetical, me and Taylor go back to my mom's house.

[Maul]

It.

[Rory]

Cousins are allowed. But now you're not allowed to bring a plus one. With the. Like with the rest of my exes. You were. It's different now. Yeah, everything's different.

[Maul]

Yeah, it's a little.

[Damaris]

It will have to depend on a.

[Rory]

Plus one because I could see. I don't know Taylor's dating history. I know the Swifties know all that shit, but again, I still feel like the Kelsey's are like normal people. So I think that would get weird.

[Damaris]

Well, I'm sure it's more the little. Having to get over the little. Cause the little cousins, the little girls. Can you imagine?

[Maul]

No, I think, I think. But I think Taylor loves that. I think she's cool with that. It's the adult relatives that come over that can be a little awkward and odd.

[Rory]

Yeah, the kids are fine. Matter of fact, I'd have to tell my mom. Yo, can you relax please?

[Maul]

Yeah, the kids is completely fine. Like that's not, you know.

[Rory]

But no, like, imagine being a 14 year old girl at Thanksgiving and you find out your big cousin and she don't even really like, you know, playing the NFL. But we don't like talk like that. But we, we have to go here every year. I want to Stay with my friends. Like, nah, Taylor gonna be there now.

[Maul]

But I don't.

[Rory]

You would lose your fucking mind.

[Maul]

But then again, I don't know. I don't know how Taylor moves, but I've been around people that were just as famous as Taylor and they don't move like that at all. Like we would think it would be crazy. It's security. Don't get it twisted. Twisted, but it ain't like. It ain't like the president is moving around. It ain't like that. It's like it's us and then it's, you know, professional security. And we obviously not gonna be places where the places we're going to is very exclusive places. You know what I'm saying? So I don't know. I don't know. I don't know if Taylor moves like that. I'm not. She probably is more laid back than we think. Like, it's probably not as crazy as we think it is.

[Rory]

I'm only putting in perspective even as an adult. Of course, this happened seven years ago, but I got invited by a girl on vacation in a house that Nas happened to be in as well. We all were staying in the same house. And I said, no, Nas. It was a. It was a bunch of people. I. I was her. Her plus her. Her guy for. For the weekend.

[Maul]

Yeah.

[Rory]

And it was something that Nas. It was all in the same. Same house. Not like same villa. Literally all in the same house. I was like, I'm cool, cuz he.

[Damaris]

Had been too nervous and weird and awkward. I'm so happy that you said, you.

[Rory]

Know, I wouldn't have been weird and awkward at all.

[Maul]

But you're weird and awkward on a regular day.

[Rory]

Exactly. That's what I'm saying. I wouldn't be more than in the house. Like if he's in my airpods, I'm nervous. Anytime get down, I just get a high. It's like, oh God, he's so good.

[Maul]

He's so talented. He's so good.

[Rory]

He's so good at rapping Embar. But I, I said no because I was like. Cause I feel like everybody kind of knew each other in the house. And like I knew a few people in there sort of. I just didn't want to be a part of it.

[Maul]

I love when people think celebrities are like, like, just like, you know, like, oh, it's security and I can't go there. They be a lot more laid back than you think. Yo. Like some people that I thought was like, like, what are you? Like, I be looking like, where you going? Like by yourself. You about to go over there. Like, what are you doing? You can't do that. Like, I'm like, why not? I'm like, do you know who you. You know what I'm saying? Like, in my mind I'm like, you can't walk to that store by yourself. What do you know? But they be looking like, why the not like, yeah, let me mind my business.

[Rory]

Just with that vacation shit. Like, and I've only done like the group vacation things. Very, very limited times. And it's always been with people that I know really, really well. And yes, the kid in me was like, of course, course I want to go. All I do is pay for my flight. Which also kind of felt hoish to me. Like, tell Nas I'll put down on the house too. Like, this feels weird.

[Maul]

He need on that. Like you need something on that.

[Rory]

I got an Expedia account, so that felt weird. But even though I knew a few people in there, I also felt like I would have been the outsider. And every time I've done a house vacation type thing, like everybody knew everybody and I didn't want to be the. The cousins plus one at Thanksgiving with Taylor Swift.

[Maul]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Like, all right, who are you really? We don't know you like that. I didn't want to be that guy.

[Maul]

Yeah, I feel you.

[Rory]

My anxiety would have went through the roof.

[Damaris]

Yeah, I feel as a man, I guess I can see that more because as a woman I'm just like, what's the problem? But women are usually like more welcomed into spaces like men. It's like, what are you like providing?

[Rory]

Well, obviously. Obviously.

[Maul]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Like what are you?

[Rory]

Especially on a vacation.

[Damaris]

Like you're just here like you're one of the women. So now we can't her like no.

[Rory]

Well, no, because I was invited is because it was very much. I don't want to say a couple thing. I don't know NASA's situation or anything, but it was a very much a man, woman, man to a two gender vacation.

[Maul]

It was a Republican. It was a Republican.

[Rory]

But it wasn't like, it wasn't like a bunch of girls.

[Maul]

The Dominican Republic, that's where you went.

[Rory]

It was, it was right next to the Dr. 2. But yeah, it was very much like a couple's esque thing. It wasn't like a bunch of girls going on vacation. That's where it felt even like more awkward. It would have been like eight of us.

[Maul]

Oh yeah.

[Rory]

Like, nah, I'm cool, I'm cool.

[Maul]

Yeah.

[Rory]

As much As I like to ATV with Nas. Like.

[Damaris]

Oh, you would have made that.

[Rory]

And I was like, yo, did you even clear this with anybody? Like, I don't want to land everybody. Like, yo, who you brought?

[Maul]

And you white. So it's like. It's like. It's like, if you the one of the brothers, it's like, you know, even though he is one of the brothers, but it's like, yo, who the white boy? Like, who brought the white boy to the sun? Like, you can't bring. You can't bring Ginger.

[Rory]

You can't do any of the activities you guys want to do.

[Maul]

Ginger into the sun on the island. Like, what y' all doing?

[Rory]

And the last time I saw him, I told him he changed my life. And he went, oh, that was.

[Damaris]

This was after.

[Rory]

It was after. Yeah, it was after.

[Damaris]

Oh, no.

[Rory]

I mean, no.

[Maul]

Seven years ago.

[Rory]

The not should happen 14 years ago. And then it was seven again. Oh, no. I had to say no to that, which I'm very proud of my. About my decision. Like, as cool as that would have.

[Maul]

Been, like, nah, that's funny.

[Rory]

And then. And then all those bars from Hip Hop is Dead started playing in my head of Nas rapping about, you got to be 10 years in the game before I invite you on vacation. I was like, all right, man. See you. Yeah, he take vacation seriously.

[Maul]

That's nasty. You can't. You can't do that.

[Rory]

But anyways, Little Yachty thought that George Floyd bar was hard.

[Damaris]

Yeah, that.

[Maul]

Yo, Yachty. What's up? That's my guy. Yo, Yachty, man, you. That line was craziness. That's my God with Yachty, man. But that line, like, nobody in the studio was like. Like, yo, we can't. Nobody on the stream was like, put that out. Like, that's. No, but when you recorded it, whoever recorded, the engineer should have been like, yo, you sure you want to take that out?

[Rory]

Like, he was doing it live with.

[Maul]

No, he played.

[Rory]

I thought he was just playing it. I'd have to go back and look.

[Maul]

Yeah, he was just playing it. He was just playing the record. But that's what I'm saying. Whoever recorded it should have been like, yo, I know he in the studio with one of his homies. You always got to be in a session with one of the homies. That's why it's important to have the right people around you, bro. Somebody gotta be willing to be like, yo, dawg, I don't think that's a good idea. Like, that might be. You get a lot of Backlash for that?

[Damaris]

Yeah, the backlash. It's not okay. Fuck. If somebody says it's wrong or not, that's not okay. Like, what. What are we doing? Yeah, are we the niggas they left behind? Like, what. What are we doing?

[Maul]

That just wasn't. Yeah, Yachty, you and you. Yachty is. He's sharper than that. He know he ain't supposed to be doing shit like that.

[Damaris]

He did that shit on purpose.

[Maul]

Put my knee up on her neck. I went, george. Floyd. Floyd.

[Rory]

As, of course, I think Yachty is very sharp. And I don't need to say how intelligent Yachty is. Look what he's done with his career. But I don't think he, like, plotted this like, yo, it's gonna be some rage. I'm gonna do it. Plaque.

[Maul]

Yeah, I don't think he did that. I think he really. I think he really was probably thought.

[Rory]

That bar was hard when he said it.

[Damaris]

He knew when he recorded that it was going to be backlash for it. He knew what the reaction was going to be, and he's.

[Maul]

It.

[Damaris]

I'm gonna do that anyway. It's not a hard enough bar for you to go against it. You did that. I don.

[Maul]

I don't think. Yeah, I don't. I don't think he. I don't think he had that thought into it. I think he really genuinely thought that he was just saying some slick shit. Like, I'm telling you that people. Sometimes they just feel like, yo, I didn't mean. Because his intentions. Wasn't that.

[Rory]

So.

[Maul]

He don't even see it being that, like, taken as that that's a real thing. Like, people know what their intentions are, what they're trying to say, but then when you say it. Because now we're responsible again, we say this all the time. Not only am I responsible for what I say, I'm responsible for how people interpret it.

[Damaris]

It's not about being. It's not. It's not some shit you gotta decipher.

[Maul]

The bar is disrespectful to you and I. Yes. But I'm saying to Yachty, when. In his brain, in his mind, when he's writing it and he's laying it down, he's looking at it like he's not trying to be insensitive or he's not. I'm telling you, that's a real thing. That's what I'm saying. I don't think that he sat there and was like, yeah, I'm gonna get them tight with this one. I don't.

[Damaris]

Yeah, but that's not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is when he wrote it and said it back, I know he thought like, like, nah. But then said, fuck it. I guarantee you might have came up with it off the fly. Like, oh, that bar hard. Which is not, oh, that bar hard.

[Maul]

And.

[Damaris]

But at no point. There was no point that Yachty didn't think about that fucking line and think about what the repercussions of it could be. There's no point if you saying that somebody is intelligent or has any. Any ounce of intelligence. He knew when he left the fucking studio that that bar was disrespectful and left it in there anyway. The bar is disrespectful, period.

[Rory]

Of course it is.

[Damaris]

There's no. It's not.

[Rory]

Nobody over here is debating. That's insane.

[Damaris]

It was disrespectful.

[Rory]

He should have apologized. I'm glad he did. Like, that's. That. It's not a hard bar. It's just a bad bar.

[Maul]

Yeah, it's just. That's. That's. That to me, that's the part of it. It's like, that's just not a good bar. Like, you know what I'm saying?

[Rory]

Like, what do you think you should have said? Caught a body off after the show. I went, garth Brooks.

[Maul]

Or you could have said, I put my knee up on her neck. I. With Miguel. Remember when Miguel jumped over the crowd? He could have got that off. I went, miguel. You know what I'm saying? Why you go, George Floyd?

[Rory]

We watched a lot of shit live in our lives. That was absolutely insane.

[Maul]

100.

[Rory]

Remember watching that live? Like, did he just do that?

[Maul]

Yes. Yes. That's the bar. That's the bar. You should have got off. Had my leg up on her neck. I went, miguel, out of my. Yo, download that. Like, we need to stream that. Run that up. You know what I'm saying, George Floyd. I was like, yo, he tripped. Soon as I heard that bar, I was like, yo, nah. Yachty tripping. You can't.

[Rory]

He thought in the club that DJ would take. Take the music down so we could all yell at.

[Maul]

Verb on it. Like, yeah, nice, man. Nah. Yeah, that was just a bad. Very distasteful. But I do think Yachty is genuinely a nice guy. You very rarely see him in like, this where he does something and it's just a negative thing. And taking. You know, taking like, it. It disrespects and hurts people. You know what I'm saying?

[Rory]

So, yeah, Nahi.

[Maul]

No worrying now.

[Rory]

Mal, I don't even need to ask. I know all weekend you were glued to your tv. Live golf, Indianapolis.

[Maul]

I'm crushed. Jon really came back and completed.

[Rory]

Yeah. Big, big Rom. Big rom. Com. I mean, you know, came, came all the way through. He went nuts.

[Maul]

Shout out to John Rom. He did come back and completed the overtaking of my guy, Joaquin Neiman.

[Rory]

I know that's your man's too.

[Maul]

Nah. But congrats to John Rom, though. He, he, he won the championship this year. Sebastian Muniers won the day, though, in a $4 million payday.

[Rory]

I mean, the most important part. Yes, Sebastian.

[Maul]

His DMs are blowing up right now.

[Rory]

Now Sebastian has every chick on earth.

[Maul]

Just for the day. For the day. Sebastian cut the DMS off and then the Haitian persuasion.

[Rory]

Jason Derulo performed so much. Creole.

[Maul]

Yeah. Shout out to Jason Derulo, man.

[Rory]

Yeah. No, it was a great weekend. Shout out to live golf. I've enjoyed LIV and everything that they're doing to try to change. I like the culture they bring with my brain and you know how quick I have to see things. This, this definitely has helped for me with golf.

[Maul]

A can't miss experience. Grab your tickets for the next live golf [e-mail] that's livgolf.com or if you can't make it next time, you can follow every shot live and exclusively on Fox Sports.

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[Rory]

So what happened at Chappaquiddick? Well, it really depends on who you Talk to.

[Maul]

There are many versions of what happened.

[Rory]

In 1969 when a young Ted Kennedy drove a car into a and left.

[Damaris]

A woman behind to drown.

[Sarah Spain]

There's a famous headline, I think in the New York Daily News.

[Rory]

It's Teddy escapes, Blonde drowns.

[Sarah Spain]

And in a strange way, right, that sort of tells you the story really became about Ted's political future, Ted's political hopes.

[Rory]

Will Ted become president?

[Maul]

Kappaquiddick is a story of a tragic death and how the Kennedy machine took control.

[Sarah Spain]

And he's not the only Kennedy to survive a scandal.

[Rory]

The Kennedys have lived through disgrace, affairs.

[Maul]

Violence, you name it. So is there a curse? Every week we go behind the headlines.

[Rory]

And beyond the drama of America's royal family.

[Sarah Spain]

Listen to United States of Kennedy on.

[Damaris]

The iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast or wherever.

[Sarah Spain]

You get your podcast.

[Rory]

Get fired up, y'.

[Maul]

All.

[Sarah Spain]

Season 2 of Good Game with Sarah Spain is underway. We just welcomed one the of of my favorite people and an incomparable soccer icon, Megan Rapinoe to the show and we had a blast. We talked about her recent 40th birthday celebrations, Co hosting a podcast with her fiance sue, bird watching former teammates retire and more. Never a dull moment with Pino. Take a listen. What do you miss the most about being a pro athlete?

[Rory]

The final.

[Sarah Spain]

The final. And the locker room. I really, really like you. Just, you can't replicate Kate. You can't get back showing up to locker room every morning just to talk. We've got more incredible guests like the legendary Candace Parker and college superstar Az Foot. I mean, seriously, y', all, the guest list is absolutely stacked for season two. And you know, we're always going to keep you up to speed on all the news and happenings around the women's sports world as well. So make sure you listen to Good Game with Sarah Spain on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of I Heart women's sports.

[Rory]

Hello, puzzlers. Let's start with a quick puzzle. The answer is Ken Jennings appearance on the puzzler with A.J. jacobs. The question is, what is the most entertaining listening experience in podcast land? Jeopardy. Truthers who say that you were given all the answers believe in. I guess they would be conspiracy theorists. That's right. Are there Jeopardy.

[Damaris]

Truthers?

[Rory]

Are there people who say that it it was rigged?

[Maul]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Ever since I was first on, people are like, they gave you the answers.

[Maul]

Right.

[Rory]

And then there's the other ones which are like they gave you the answers and you still Blew it. Don't miss Jeopardy Legend Ken Jennings on our special game show Week of the Puzzler podcast. The Puzzler is the best place place to get your daily word puzzle fix. Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, I'm Kurt Browner.

[Maul]

And I am Scotty Landis. And we host Bananas, the weird news podcast with wonderful guests like Whitney Cummings.

[Rory]

And tackle the truly tough questions, why is cool mom an insult? But mom is fine.

[Maul]

No, I always say cool Kurt's a fun dad.

[Rory]

Fun dad and cool mom. That's cool for me.

[Maul]

We also dig into important life stuff, like why our last names would make the worst hyphen ever.

[Sarah Spain]

My last name is Cummings. I have sympathy for nobody.

[Rory]

Yeah, mine's Brown Oler, but with an H, so it looks like brownhoehler. Okay. That's okay. Yours might be worse. We can never get married. Yeah.

[Maul]

Listen to this episode with Whitney Cummings and check out new episodes of Bananas every Tuesday on the Exactly Right network.

[Rory]

Listen to bananas on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Do we have voicemails?

[Maul]

You've got mail. Yes, we do, Rory. And we are sponsored by Boost Mo.

[Rory]

Yes, everyone sends their voicemails right via their Boost phone.

[Damaris]

Hi, everyone. Hope y' all are having an amazing day. By Damaris I hope you're feeling well. I was just listening to the Patreon episode, and I feel for you, girly. I've been through that before. It's not fun at all. So I'm just wishing you, like, all the health and wellness. Thank you. But I need some advice on, like, a family situation that I have going on, and it's kind of been going on for years, to the point where it's just my regular norm.

[Maul]

But.

[Damaris]

But I have a cousin who I'm very closely related to. I'm not going to say too much because I don't know what uncles I have that probably listen to this podcast and are unaware that I do as well.

[Rory]

But wait, pause.

[Damaris]

Josh, I have a cousin.

[Rory]

I have a cousin that I'm related to. Listen, I got play cousins, too, but how do you. Yo, I got a cousin. I'm like. I'm closely related to this. Yeah, like. Like a cousin, maybe.

[Maul]

Yeah, that's exactly what they call a cousin.

[Rory]

All right, cousin, go ahead.

[Damaris]

Who, like, is, like, the closest thing that you could have to, like, a sibling in terms of, like, parental relationship. Like, our parents are twins, actually. I don't know why I just didn't say that. Our parents are twins. And I don't fuck with her. Like, I, I don't. And I haven't for, like, almost 10 years at this point. And every time there's a family function, I'm like, graduating college and she's getting put in my face like a FaceTime call. And I'm like, hi. So I'm laughing because I'm graduating college and I was smoking to celebrate, but I'm like, laughing like, everybody knows my grandmother as well, God rest her soul. Everybody knows I do. Not with her. And I don't know how to deal with the fact that family members keep, like, trying to force the situation. So I was just wondering if y' all have ever experienced anything similar. Any advice you have?

[Rory]

I mean, you'll probably like that cousin if she starts dating Taylor Swift.

[Maul]

Swift, yeah. Then you invite cousin then.

[Rory]

Now, now, now. That's like my sibling.

[Maul]

I think that. So I haven't ne. I never had that type of problem with one of my cousins where it's like, I don't even want to see them or speak to them. I don't think I've ever had that. But I think they, you know, like your family, I guess with, with, with, with guys is different though. I guess your mom wouldn't FaceTime you with one of your male cousins on the phone that she know you don't really.

[Rory]

Nah. Yeah, I don't think that would happen.

[Maul]

Rock. With. Yeah, it's like, I think it's different for guys than it is for women, but I mean, just tell your family, yo, stop calling me while on the phone. Like, I don't, I don't want to. We don't speak. It's awkward every time y' all try to put us on. You know, at least let us have a real face to face conversation first before y' all start having these random FaceTime calls. And now I'm sitting there there, like, looking awkward, like, hey, how are you? Like, I haven't really spoken to my cousin like that in years. We don't hang out, so it's like, stop making it awkward. I think that's an easy fix. Just tell your family, stop calling me on the phone with her on the line. Like, stop doing that.

[Damaris]

Nah. Make everybody uncomfortable.

[Maul]

That's my favorite crash out on the FaceTime.

[Damaris]

Cuz I've. That's what I've. I've had my mother like, bitch, you.

[Maul]

Know, I don't fuck with you. Stop calling.

[Damaris]

Don't even do that. Just like when they put the phone in for, like, who is that? I don't fuck with her. Why are you putting me on this phone? Let me embarrass anybody?

[Rory]

I guess I want to know, like, why you don't fuck with that person. Person. Do y' all just not get along? Cuz you got to just fake the funk in that regard. When it comes to family, if you're just like, I'm. Her and I are just never going to rock. We're just not the. Did you do something foul? Yeah, I get that, cuz then you can.

[Maul]

Then you can say, yeah, what's the issue?

[Rory]

What happened if you just find her annoying? Who. That's just. That's family.

[Maul]

You got a guy, you know it's a guy you know it's a guy with cousins.

[Damaris]

I don't.

[Rory]

Someone conquered the body.

[Damaris]

No, with cousins, it's not usually a guy. It's usually some family shit. Like one was the favorite grandchild or one used to pick on the other one growing up. Like, with girls and family shit is usually something like that. It's usually not over no fucking dude. Like, it's probably something family related, honestly.

[Maul]

But to that point where it's like, I don't even like 10 years. She said it's mentioned they were like, really with her. She.

[Damaris]

I think they just don't like each other. Like, they don't like each other's personality. They don't get along.

[Maul]

Okay, but I mean, when you family, if you don't like. Like I have family members, I don't like their personality. But we family, so we gonna kick it. It's like, certain. I'm not gonna kick it with you about certain things. I wouldn't invite you to, but if they call you on FaceTime and I'm on Facebook, I'm not gonna be like, it ain't that. If it's. You know what I'm saying? If it's just some like, yo, that was the favorite grandkid or I'm not mad at. As an adult. That's kid. Like, where you like, yo, out of here.

[Damaris]

She sounds young.

[Maul]

She sound like she's older than 25.

[Rory]

Well, she graduated college.

[Maul]

Was.

[Rory]

I don't know when that happened, but that sounded like it was.

[Damaris]

Well, she said. I think she. Yeah, I think she said that just happened recently.

[Rory]

So. Yeah, like 22.

[Maul]

Yeah, even that's too old to still be college graduate.

[Damaris]

Because what if she did something at like 17? Like. Well, she said for like 10 years now, so that's like 11, 12.

[Maul]

Come on, fam. What are we talking about. That's kid. Whatever happened was kid.

[Damaris]

Nah, but some people don't grow out of who they are.

[Rory]

Like, Mike did. Shitty lie. Told me my grandfather was a serial killer. No Garth Brooks. Like, really. Like, we cool now?

[Maul]

Yeah, but that's a joke.

[Rory]

Like, that's no dog. I've told y' all so many things that my cousin used to lie to me about. I was terrified my whole life.

[Maul]

Yeah, but that's because older cousins supposed to terrify the little cousins. Like, they lock you in the room. You know what I'm saying?

[Rory]

Bloody Mary. I was terrified.

[Maul]

That's cousin. They supposedly. That's what cousins. Cousins are just.

[Rory]

And I love my siblings.

[Maul]

That's all they are.

[Damaris]

What is some. Like, it's some. It's some family. I don't. With that. Like, you know. Know some like. Like, if you. I don't play with my mother. So, like, I have some older cousins, you know what I'm saying, that are younger than my mother but older than me, that were like, talking about my mom. And like, my mother may have forgotten them, but I'm like, nah, like, you lucky it's not even. Honestly, you lucky it's not on site when I see you, like, type. Like, I don't with you. Family reunion. They go to speak. I don't speak like. You know what I'm saying? Like, it's some where. It's just like, you can't really forget, you know? Like, I don't. I don't know. It's a lot of family. I don't taught to have my family.

[Maul]

I had. I had like a family. My brother, like, my family. My cousins, they used to babysit me, right? Lived in the same building. And he. He hung me. He hung me from. It was like a nail in the seal in, like, the living room, right? So he hung me with a belt around my neck. Jesus Christ. Hung me from this nail. Right?

[Damaris]

Not funny.

[Maul]

So, like. But again, this is. This is what you do in the house. Like, if I'm the little one and I'm running around, I want to play his games. Like, yo, get out of here. Get out of my room. You know, that's. That's. That's part the of. Of the rites of passage. But it's funny because a few years ago he had hung. Yeah, so it's funny because a few years ago I went back to the. I went back to the building.

[Rory]

My cousin Mike seems like a nice guy at this point, and he had.

[Maul]

Something for his grandmother that used to watch me and the fucking nail is still there. And we sat around and talked about that shit. I was like, now it's funny. Cause looking at it, it's like, it's not that high. But as a fucking kid, I thought I was hanging off the Empire State Building. I was like, it was so fucking high and terrifying. But I went back and look, I was like. Was like, yo, that's the same nail. And we was all laughing. He was like, yo, that's the same nail. When I put the belt up there and I hung because you wouldn't leave me alone. Like, dude, that wasn't choking me. He had it, like, just wrapped around me. Like, probably like my back shoulder. And I was literally hanging like this. But he was like, yo, stop balls. I'm coming in my room. And the just hung me up on the. On the ceiling.

[Rory]

Do you think that's why maybe you're into the kinky stuff that you're into now? Because it's a child. I'm not a belt around. I'm not a belt around your neck.

[Maul]

Vanilla sex all the time. I'm not a to no kink.

[Damaris]

That be.

[Maul]

You know what I'm saying?

[Damaris]

Not even vanilla be.

[Rory]

I found out you were gruner last week.

[Maul]

I. I don't know what you went to Goon Squad. Goonies never die. Goonies never die, man.

[Rory]

This doesn't really have to do with her question per se, but my favorite aunt, she got married in, like, I don't like, mid 95, whatever, to my Uncle Dan, who has two kids. I consider them my cousin. Like, they're my cousins. To me, I'm. I've only memories. Those are my cousins, even though we're not blood. 1. The girl cousin who I was one of the closest with, they had a falling out with my Aunt Mo, and I had to. I had to make a decision, which sucked. I'm obviously gonna go with the Pharaoh. And yeah, that was. That's been trash for the last, like, 10 years. Even when was out in Chicago, I did couldn't go see her. I went and saw her brother.

[Maul]

Yeah.

[Rory]

And her dad and my aunt. But, like, you got to make a decision.

[Maul]

That's whack.

[Rory]

No, super. That was the closest with her. Like, that was. That was like, my cousin for real. And. Yeah, you got to make a decision at that point. You're not about to just, like, that's my favorite aunt. That's my dad's little sister. Yeah. I hate to say, like, we're not blood, because I only consider them to me, those Are my first cousins for real?

[Maul]

Absolutely.

[Rory]

Yeah. You got to make decision.

[Maul]

Spoke to a friend of mine that I ain't speak to in a minute last week. Finally, like, made that. Made that call, you know, he had that conversation like, yo, what's up, man? So that was good. That was good to get that conversation. But, yeah, you should do that.

[Rory]

How did that go?

[Maul]

It was cool. It wasn't. It wasn't like no crazy, deep conversation. It was. It was simple, like, yo, what's up, man? How you been? Things, they're just. Man, you know what I mean? Like, don't know why we really stopped speaking. Like, it wasn't like nothing ever really happened. It's just sometimes, you know, life. Life, work, family, you know, shit like that happens, and you look up and you're like, damn, I ain't speak to this person, like, three years. Like, yeah, but that was good. But then I say that, because again, with this. This young lady, like, sometimes you gotta make that call and just whatever issue it is, like, yo, what's up, man? Like, I don't really. I remember not liking something you said or something you did, but, like, I don't think it's that deep to where we ain't. Yeah, kick it like that in 10 years. Like, that's crazy.

[Rory]

I mean, shot. I saw Carl over the weekend, and I said, yo, you shooting Austin with RK cameras.

[Maul]

No, you didn't. No, you did not. No, you did not.

[Rory]

I love. I saw Carl over the weekend, but Was he, though?

[Maul]

Did you say? Look at the serial numbers.

[Rory]

Oh, they weren't those cameras. Yeah, I could tell that was. They was not.

[Maul]

Let me see.

[Rory]

He did, like, some cool. What's the handheld like? It looks analog type.

[Maul]

I was like, all right, yeah, I'm watching. I'm watching. I know that lens work when I.

[Rory]

See it, but I was. It was good.

[Maul]

Kick your ass, man. You just shot enough content with my camera. Bring it back, finally.

[Rory]

It's been a few years. Bring them back.

[Maul]

Bring my content. Bring my cameras back.

[Rory]

There's three interviews. Yeah, bring. At least bring the card back.

[Maul]

Yeah. Come on. Stop playing with me, man.

[Rory]

Got the first dude interview ever. That should just.

[Maul]

Just somewhere, some floating in the universe. Whoever got it, put it out. It, like, drop it. Drop the interview, man. And we did it. That was a dope. That was a dope conversation.

[Rory]

Incredible conversation.

[Maul]

Yeah, man.

[Rory]

And now, like, you know, she's in a relationship. Relationship, kids. We talked about everything before. Like, that was, like, a really deep conversation, man. And it was on Valentine's day. It's working out for her, but yeah, bring my man.

[Maul]

Stop playing with me.

[Rory]

I should have FaceTimed. Yeah, I should have FaceTime you.

[Maul]

FaceTime me?

[Rory]

Yeah. My bad, my bad.

[Maul]

That's when you FaceTime me. You don't FaceTime me because you need tickets to Breezy Bowl. FaceTime me. When you see Carl in the streets working like, let me see that camera he got.

[Rory]

Just. Just filming me at Tower with my own camera.

[Maul]

Yeah, yeah. Carl, stop playing, man. Bring that shit back.

[Rory]

Do we have another one?

[Maul]

Yo, what up? It's Easy From New York, big fan of the show. I'm gonna give y' all two, you know, details before I get into my.

[Rory]

Question that kind of, you know, connect.

[Maul]

To my question or whatever. So, first of all, I'm a convicted felon. I did three years up north, violent felony for stabbing two kids in a.

[Rory]

Fight that got out of hand. Number two, I've been home over 15 years.

[Maul]

I changed my life.

[Rory]

I went to school, I became a nurse.

[Maul]

I had to fight hard to do that. I have to hire a lawyer and everything. So my question is, stab somebody now. You know how to stitch it up?

[Rory]

No, I got some friends of mine.

[Maul]

That, you know, once in a while.

[Rory]

You know, they still involved with certain things.

[Maul]

But once in a while, you know.

[Rory]

I want to go and kick it with my guys.

[Maul]

So we go out to a spot or whatever. But I always let them know, like.

[Rory]

Certain shit, I can't be around anymore.

[Maul]

I changed my life. Life, you know, certain things that just can't be around.

[Rory]

All that fighting and all that stuff outside. I'm gonna leave y' all alone if y' all getting jumped. And I know that you the type to start some.

[Maul]

I'mma leave you.

[Rory]

And we all know we got the.

[Maul]

Boys who drink sometimes and want to.

[Rory]

Start fights just cuz they drinking.

[Maul]

So they all think I'm joking until it actually happened. We was out, my man was drinking, he started some. He was dead wrong.

[Rory]

I left him. I'm saying, I dip. He got. I jumped and he said, oh, you.

[Maul]

Flat left me, whatever. And I basically told him like, bro, I told you, don't bring me around that. So basically my question is like, I'm up for that.

[Rory]

Because I feel like I gave him the heads up. I don't know, let me know.

[Damaris]

No, you're not up for that at all. Yeah, and I'm off of holding down for your mans, but is about is too old, bro. You. If you already learned your lesson, why, why I gotta go and learn A lesson I already learned. That's stupid.

[Maul]

As. Yeah, if. Yeah, if I changed my life and I didn't been through that part of my life, you know, in the streets, stabbed somebody, caught a felony. Time, children, whatever. He. He probably was a kid at the time.

[Rory]

No, I'm sure.

[Maul]

Stabbed somebody, whatever. And I had to do my jail time, came home, changed my life. I'm now a nurse. I'm doing, you know, great.

[Rory]

Like, I have priors.

[Maul]

You're not about to pull me. Yeah, you're not about to pull me back. Give me the. Out of this now. It's fucked up. If. Like, when did you leave? Like, if you leave when it's already lit and shaking and you know, the room is shifting, that's fucked up. At that point, it's like your man is already involved in a fight.

[Rory]

Like, okay, but all right. How he even worded. It's not like some guys approached his mans. He was saying his man was being drunken and stupid and was like, yo, I told you before, like, I don't want to be involved in any of that. Yeah, like, do you respect me enough, even if you're drunk, not to get into some?

[Maul]

Like, for sure.

[Rory]

You instigating some. I don't know. At some point, though, it's. That's on you. Like, of course you want your mans to get jumped. But I told you, I don't want to be a part of it.

[Maul]

For sure.

[Rory]

But I'm saying, you went out. It's not like they came to us.

[Maul]

But walk into the car when somebody.

[Rory]

Didn'T pop my man, that's very hard to even.

[Maul]

That's tough. Like, yo, he already talked with my man. Like, I can't leave that.

[Rory]

Yeah, that's like a bad Nicholas Cage movie. Like, he's walking in the car, you.

[Maul]

Just see him behind. Blows up everything. Like, you know that scene. Everybody. Every great actor has that scene. Yeah, Everything behind them blow up.

[Rory]

I would have trouble with that. But I still like, dude, if I tell you already, I'm. Don't do this. I don't care that you drunk. You starting with other people. If they come to us, then it is what it is.

[Maul]

I was on. I was on the opposite end of that type of situation. So I stopped. I stopped talking to a dude I used to be cool with growing up because he left us when we were about to get into a fight at a pool. Pool hole. Like, some shit happened. My homeboy hit the owner of the pool hall in the face with a lit candle. Like, threw the whole candle Shit at him.

[Rory]

He had like a glass shit or like a glass.

[Maul]

He had like wax all over his face. So the security guards, they throw us out. So. But it wasn't my homeboy's fault. Like, the dude started talking crazy to my homeboy. My home was like, yo, who you talking? I'm a grown man. You know how that shit goes.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Maul]

So the security's throwing us out. Let's see the one security guard, he start putting the gloves on. You know, the gloves that got the knuckles in it. I say, yo, dog, when you see a dude six, three putting on gloves, they got the knuckles in it already. Yeah. I was like, oh, man, they about to start beating on the side. So we, we still like, that is.

[Rory]

Like legal brass knuckles. Of course, not brass, but like, whatever. The sandwich that they put, like, you.

[Maul]

Get hit with that, you're going to.

[Rory]

See your whole chin.

[Maul]

Yes. So we outside in front of the pool hall arguing with the dudes. Like, you know, they look like they ready to start swinging us, beating us up. Because again, this is the owner. This is the. They work for him. So of course, if somebody's getting into the owner, they going do what they have to do. But I stopped talking to the. The other dude because he basically, like, when we was outside getting into it with them, he's inside paying the bill. I'm like, first of all, that bill number one, we done got thrown out of the there, like, and we outside security, we about to get into it with them. We get back to the block. He want to fight me now. He got all this energy for me. Ready, what's up? I'm like, you want to fight me when we just had seven security and.

[Rory]

I saw somebody put the glove on.

[Maul]

Yeah, like, you, you inside paying the bill when we outside about to get it shaking with them. Now we get back to the block and you want to fight me. So I just was like, cuz I.

[Damaris]

Felt pussy and he wanted to prove himself to somebody.

[Maul]

But we already seen it. Like, you in this, you inside paying the bill when we getting thrown out and outside getting into it with security. Like, and you inside paying a bill. Like, come on, man. Like that bill we got thrown out, that bill means nothing to us no more. That is, everything is on the house now. Like, he done hit the owner in the face with a lit candle. You know what I'm saying? Like, it's no bill. The bill is gone. Like so, yeah, so I understand it. I. But when did you leave your friend? When, when, like, was it hands being thrown? Was it tussling going on. And you was like, yo, I'm out. Because then that's whack. You can't.

[Damaris]

I don't know. I.

[Maul]

But if it didn't get to that, your homeboy just drunk, and you could see it getting there. You like, yo, chill, like, all right.

[Rory]

I'm out to grab your friend at that. You're drunk out of there and drag.

[Maul]

Him out of there.

[Rory]

Take your ego down and tell all those gentlemen, yo, he drunk as. My bad. Y' all got it.

[Maul]

I got it. Yeah. Like, I'm taking.

[Rory]

I'm grabbing him like, like.

[Maul]

But leaving is always.

[Rory]

We're wrong. We're wrong.

[Maul]

Because if something. Something seriously happened, like, say they put your homeboy in the hospital. How you even. You know, everybody. Like, you just left him. Like, now he in a coma, like, they done played hopscotch on his head, and you just. You on your way to the crib like you just left him for dead. Nah, you can't do that. I understand. He's wrong. I'm not saying his friend ain't wrong for even putting him in that type of environment and in that situation. He's wrong. But if you left and it was already getting shaken, he's wrong for that.

[Rory]

Okay, but what if he got. But now. What if I now he's the nurse taking care of him.

[Damaris]

But what if I now.

[Maul]

You using your.

[Damaris]

See, what if I now jump in this and then I, my ass, end up back in jail again just because I wanted to be super, save a dumbass? Like, I'd rather. I'd rather you call me a bad friend. And I'm sorry. Like, especially if you already been through that. You already got a strike that I'm not. No.

[Maul]

I feel you. Let me swoop your ass.

[Damaris]

Maybe you'll learn the way I learned my lesson.

[Rory]

Because he said he changed his whole life doing this and that when he gets to court, they're not going to talk about him being a nurse. Him change his life. They're going to talk about his last case 15 years ago.

[Maul]

He was always a fellow.

[Rory]

And now he's going to be a fucking menace to society.

[Maul]

This is who you are.

[Rory]

This has never changed. This is who you are. Look at the behavior of this gentleman.

[Maul]

This is. Yeah. And he works in our medical industry. Let's get him out of there. He can't be trusted, Di. Yeah. You know, they gonna throw all of that in there. So. Yeah. To me, it just depends on when you left. I don't mind that you left. If nothing was going on, and he was just drunk, and he was like, all right, bro, you acting stupid. I'm out. I understand that. But if you left and somebody was in his face and they was tussling and all that, you just like, all right, I'm out. Yeah. I think you wrong for that. But if not totally within you to just be like, all right, I'm out of here. I don't like the energy. I'm going home. I respect that.

[Rory]

I. I've. I've worn a lot of I I jammies for friends when I shouldn't have.

[Maul]

Well, Peach. Peach, our beloved Peach has a eye jammy right now. Now he was trying to break up a fight. Yeah.

[Rory]

He's doing the Lord's work.

[Maul]

Somebody end up popping PE yo, who pops on Peach? Like, Peach is the coolest dude at the bar. Like, how you punch Peach in the face.

[Rory]

I feel like PE with his eye jammy that we've all had. It's okay to get a eye jammy. I feel like one of the mayor candidates should, like, use PE As a representation of, like, how crime is running rampant. Like, look at this guy. He pays taxes.

[Maul]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Like, he contributes to the city.

[Maul]

He still goes to Marcy and plays basketball.

[Rory]

Yeah. Like, he gives back to the community.

[Maul]

Gentrifying the basketball courts in Marcy as we speak. Yeah.

[Rory]

He Photoshops better than anybody.

[Maul]

Yeah. And he's still like, Brooklyn is. The streets are just crazy. Like, Peach is getting punched in the face. I'm not going to Brooklyn, man. If they punching Peach in the face, they definitely gonna punch me in my face 100%.

[Rory]

They would have. They would have punched you in the face whether pested or not.

[Maul]

But. But Pee is getting involved.

[Damaris]

Involved in p. Should have stayed out of.

[Maul]

He was trying to break up a fight. Yeah, but mind your business. Yeah, I feel you.

[Rory]

Nah, but when a woman's involved, I see that. That's why I'm happy. I've never ran into that knock on wood. But, like, if I see two men fighting, I'm. What? That's none of my fucking business whatsoever. But if you see a guy, like, beating up a chick, there's not something in you that would just, like, want to break that up.

[Maul]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

And, you know, it's so crazy, like, when I see shit like that happen to other people, I'm like, oh, my God, A man should break that up. Like. But, like, I don't want y' all being the men that break it up.

[Maul]

First of all, that's a slippery slope, cuz. Women Be right back in the same. That same night.

[Rory]

Well, yeah.

[Maul]

Well, now I'm outside. This done pulled a blade on me, cut me. And then you cops come. He didn't mean to do it that I was getting him off your ass. No, I'm telling the cops he didn't mean to do.

[Damaris]

So when I say shit like that, I never mean. I think you should always leave domestic alone. Me personally, I mean, like, when it be random. Like, random when niggas be fucking with random women or harassing random women. Because that does happen a lot.

[Rory]

For sure.

[Damaris]

That's what I'm talking about.

[Maul]

Domestic shit, though. Like, y' all together.

[Damaris]

Nah, I'm cool.

[Maul]

And he start beating on you. I mean, I might hear the Rocky theme music playing in my head, but then I'm just like, yeah, nah, I'm chilling.

[Rory]

I get both sides of men that are just like, I'm leaving that alone.

[Maul]

Yeah.

[Rory]

I'm about to die over. Over this.

[Maul]

And I only leave it because I know you gonna be right back with this nigga. Yeah, I am playing hero.

[Damaris]

I went with a friend I used to have, bro. A friend. A person I used to call my friend. I went to her nigga house and destroy. Helped destroy the house. Beat his ass, did all types of shit. Cuz he gave her chlamydia. And she went back to the.

[Maul]

Bro, she took that applesauce right back to the jar, didn't she?

[Rory]

Yo, you are so old. You are so old. Like, what the. She took that applesauce right back to the J. Yo, how old and Southern are you?

[Damaris]

What the.

[Rory]

Are you? Are you from Mississippi and born in the 30s? She done took that applesauce right back.

[Damaris]

What does that even mean?

[Maul]

Yo.

[Rory]

Time is our only currency.

[Maul]

There you go, man.

[Rory]

No, it was the early, early New Royal Mall days. I told y'.

[Maul]

All.

[Rory]

My first building on Bergen, that you. Do you remember that spot?

[Maul]

Yeah, I do.

[Rory]

When that couple that was there, and they were having a whole shit in the lobby, I could hear when I was on the street and I walked in, hoping that I didn't have to break some shit up. And she was whooping his ass, and I was like, thank God.

[Maul]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Like, I thought it was. She was beating the shit out of him. And I was like, well, I can move on here. There's nothing morally I need to stop.

[Maul]

Yeah, she got it. She's in full control, that lady. She knows what she's doing. Full control. All right, well, it's great talking to you guys. Good seeing you, y'. All.

[Rory]

Yes.

[Maul]

Let's get out of here. Enjoy the rest of the evening. I guess we have.

[Rory]

I mean we. We talked about it on Patreon, but I guess we could say now we got Bryson Tiller coming up on Thursday, which was a very interesting conversation.

[Maul]

Shout out to Bryson Tiller. Him and. Him and Chris Brown. That record going crazy right now.

[Damaris]

I was, I. You know what? So I was just thinking about that. Like, damn. On Patreon. I think I'm gonna do the challenge.

[Maul]

I don't think you should, but. Okay.

[Rory]

How's the challenge feel?

[Damaris]

It's the dance. The. The little.

[Maul]

Though they have a video for that. Christian Bryson.

[Damaris]

No, I don't think.

[Rory]

Yeah, I don't know.

[Maul]

When did that song come out? Cuz it's going. I don't know if it just came out, but that song is.

[Damaris]

Yeah, I never knew when it came out. Is it out?

[Maul]

It gotta be out. That song is everywhere.

[Damaris]

It's called. It depends. Bryson Tiller and Chris.

[Rory]

No, but isn't that like an older record?

[Maul]

I don't know. I feel like. I feel like it was an older record, but is it just now going viral again? Yeah.

[Rory]

Which, I mean, it happens.

[Maul]

Well, God damn. Like I was listening to that. Like, I feel like I heard this record.

[Damaris]

No, it came out to 2020, but when.

[Maul]

Like earlier this year. Right.

[Rory]

Oh, and they got the artwork of Shorty at the. From the show. The chick with the blonde hair came.

[Damaris]

Out three weeks ago. Yeah.

[Rory]

Why did I think that was on like a. The Last Chris project or something?

[Maul]

Oh, that's his dancer. Yeah, she's. She's bad Taylor.

[Rory]

Oh, and she. She. Oh, you know her name Smokes.

[Damaris]

Everybody knows Taylor. She's very popular.

[Rory]

Yeah, no, I saw her at the.

[Maul]

That little after. No, she's a star. She needs a. We need a Taylor. She can literally travel the country just dancing like in stadiums. And I would. I would probably go to a few of those shows.

[Rory]

Nah, backstage.

[Maul]

Incredible.

[Rory]

If I wasn't, I would have said something.

[Maul]

Could have just said hello.

[Rory]

No, I. Oh yeah, no, I know, I know she's married. No, I mean, I said hello to her. I was introduced to her.

[Maul]

But that's all you had to say was hello.

[Rory]

That's all I did.

[Maul]

She's married.

[Rory]

I.

[Maul]

Wait, what if I wasn't? I would have said something backstage. What you gonna say to a married.

[Rory]

Married people can't have friends.

[Maul]

No.

[Rory]

Yo, you sound like a. On the street.

[Damaris]

Married people can't have friends.

[Maul]

You're married.

[Damaris]

You gotta stop telling people you got.

[Rory]

No, I Don't think married people can't have friends. That was a joke. Tour life must be draining.

[Maul]

I'm glad you did. I'm so glad you didn't approach that woman to say that. Rory.

[Rory]

You think I would ever say no?

[Maul]

But I'm so glad you didn't. I'm so happy you did not do that.

[Rory]

You think me justice and speedy when I was right there, I would have been like, yo tour life, yo crazy, right? Draining what she does and what I do. You think I would have identified with how draining to her life could be to what that girl is doing and what I am doing?

[Maul]

Oh, my God.

[Rory]

That girl is dancing her ass off every night.

[Maul]

Holy. All right, man. Well, y' all keep doing the what is it? Depends challenge. Y' all want to do the real Depends challenge? Put the Depends diapers on.

[Rory]

Wait, what's it. Oh, Depends. The Chris Brown prices. Yeah, I really thought you meant. I like people themselves.

[Maul]

Yeah, that's the. The real Depends challenge. Put. Put some Depends diapers on and walk around outside like the baby did at. What was that? South by Southwest. He did that. Y' all remember that? When the baby did that?

[Rory]

When he was the baby?

[Maul]

Yeah, at south by Southwest. He walked around the dip on for like, six.

[Damaris]

Oh, my God. Did y' all hear that? The baby song? I don't know if y' all talked about it on a previous episode. Did y'?

[Maul]

All.

[Rory]

No, the flip.

[Maul]

The.

[Damaris]

The baby flip. Oh, what the. Did he flip, bro?

[Rory]

Oh, wait. I feel like y' all did put it in the chat. I don't think I clicked it, though.

[Maul]

It's a record. A new record he put out.

[Damaris]

I can't believe you haven't heard this.

[Maul]

I knew back then. I shoot it then before I had a gun.

[Rory]

He's trolling, though, right? So deep in love. You made my life complete.

[Maul]

They with me. Me.

[Rory]

Oh, my God. This is a troll, right?

[Maul]

I keep my gun.

[Damaris]

Please, Josh or somebody. Thank you.

[Rory]

That's not. That's not a real record.

[Damaris]

It is a real record.

[Rory]

Nah, it's not on dsp. Like, I'm fine with a joke social media. If that becomes a real record, I'm As a supporter of the baby and him never wanting his man's to suck his other man's dick in the parking lot. I just. Just don't. Please don't put genuine would clear that, too, 100%. And I'm surprised he didn't bring the baby out at SeaWorld to. To do the rendition of that with the DJ mix this up.

[Maul]

The baby was supposed to come out the water on the orca's mouth.

[Rory]

Like how the trainer stand on the top of the nose and he in the whole suit.

[Maul]

Yo we getting out of here. I'm that he's just ginger. Peace man, no worrying now.

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