Episode 401 | King of Dubai

Summary

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New Rory & MAL – Episode 401 | "King of Dubai"

iHeartPodcasts & The Volume | August 29, 2025

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Episode Overview

In this episode, Rory, Mal, and Damaris return for another round of banter, storytelling, and culture commentary. Fresh off Damaris’ vacation, the crew dives into stories about getting hurt on trips, content-creator relationships, the elusive "Song of the Summer," recent music releases, celebrity engagements, and the never-ending debate about friends who cross boundaries. The episode blends humor and authentic perspective, especially on friendships, music criticism, hip-hop culture, internet drama, and modern dating.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Damaris’ Vacation Story and the Inflatable Pool Incident

• Damaris returned from vacation (Curacao) with a massive bruise after a fall.
• Discussion about missing home beds versus hotel beds and the reality of cheap hotel stays.
• Damaris recaps her scary fall by the pool, her inability to swim, and the video that resulted (and went TikTok-viral).
  • [08:59] Damaris: “If you would have leaned a little bit to the right, you’d have been out of here, and I’d have had no clue. That is crazy.”
  • [09:13] Damaris: “It was scary. It was very scary. I saw my life flash before my eyes.”
• The crew joke about posting the fall video for DSP content and brand partnerships.

2. Vacations with Content Creators

• Rory and Mal discuss differences between vacationing with the “content chick” (obsessed with Instagram, YouTube, etc.) and more chill partners.
• [12:24] Rory: “It’s actually not that bad. I thought the content chick was going to ruin every moment... It was actually okay. I got my alone time.”
• Mall recalls dating a gamer girl, comparing bringing a PS4 to Cabo vs. non-content trips.

3. Song of the Summer & The State of Music Releases

• Discussion on whether any song managed to claim "Song of the Summer" for 2025.
  • Nominations: "Somebody Loves Me" by Party & Drake, “Shake it to the Max” (NY anthem), and children’s videos like “Mr. Sun.”
  • [17:18] Rory: “The last few years, even if I wasn’t outside, you would know the distinct ‘song of the summer.’ That’s been kind of weird.”
• Reflecting on recent releases:
  • DJ Khaled’s new A-list dancehall single (“You Remind Me”), Post Malone/NBA Youngboy collab.
  • Speculation on Rihanna’s return to music vs. focusing on beauty/fashion empires.
  • Respect for Beyoncé continuing to drop ambitious albums—three-part album series, Cowboy Carter, stadium tours.

4. Deep Dive: Mariah the Scientist – Lyrics, Production, and Recognition

• Damaris passionately argues the importance of lyricism, championing Mariah the Scientist’s vulnerability and pen.
  • [29:03] Damaris: “Mariah’s music...is what it sounds like when you’re writing in your diary and you know no one will ever read it...It’s a different kind of vulnerable.”
  • Comparison: Summer Walker is like women venting to friends; Mariah is raw diary truth.
• Technical note: Majority of Mariah’s album was produced by 1985 (Ovo’s 40/Drake circle), making it appealing even to new listeners.
  • [31:01] Damaris: “To me, lyrics are everything, so I judge that most importantly...”
• “Can a great song exist with good lyrics and bad music?” Crew concludes that melody and music usually win even with weak lyrics, but R&B has a higher lyric standard than hip-hop these days.

5. Taylor Swift vs. Mariah the Scientist – The “Relatability” Argument

• Damaris contends Mariah deserves as much “relatability” credit as Taylor Swift.
  • [38:39] Damaris: “Give it to the black girls too. That’s all I’m saying.”
  • The group debates who writes better melodies; consensus is Taylor does, but both deserve respect for songwriting.

6. Celebrity Engagements: Taylor Swift & Travis Kelce, and French Montana’s Royal Move

• The crew joke about feigned excitement over celebrity engagements.
  • [47:08] Rory: “I truly don’t think I’ve ever been happy for a couple that I didn’t know...”
  • [49:51] Rory: “If the entire podcast community is not invited to the wedding, then I do feel some type of way.”
  • Jokes about logistics of planning a Taylor Swift wedding, global visibility, and navigating last names (Swift-Kelce).
• French Montana’s engagement to Dubai royalty is called "the number one hip-hop couple that’s ever existed" and triggers debate on rapper legacy and the fantasy of ruling Dubai.
  • [61:17] Rory: "He may end up, like, on a senate floor at some time. He’s going to be a diplomat... Might be one—French Montana, one—Jay-Z at this point, if you want to talk rappers."

7. Hip-Hop Snitching Debate: Young Thug, Gunna, and the Street “Rules”

• Mal breaks down the recent Thug interrogation audio leak and why internet accusations of snitching are often misplaced.
  • [74:47] Mall: “If the guy that he’s saying ratted on him is saying that Thug didn’t rat, no matter how we feel, we heard an audio clip...”
• Rory raises the inconsistency about what counts as snitching (referencing Gunna, Gotti Jr.), noting the hypocrisy and moving goalposts in rap culture.
• Mal insists, when in doubt: “You have the right to remain silent. ... I wouldn’t have been saying anything.”

8. Cardi B Lawsuit: Security Guards, Viral Depositions, and the Price of Fame

• Damaris outlines Cardi B's court battle after an altercation with a security guard while pregnant.
  • [78:41] Damaris: “Cardi is like, yo, why you recording me? Like, you supposed to be security for the building. … Why the f--- you following me?”
  • The crew ridicules the frivolous lawsuit and sympathizes with celebrities battling grifters using the court system for clout or cash.

9. Voicemail Advice: The “Friend” Who Wants All Your Men

• A listener calls in about a friend who only wants men she’s interested in, asking whether to “slap the friend or not.”
  • [99:28] Mall: “First, it’s not your friend. We’ll start there.”
  • Damaris’s take: “She not afraid of you. … That’s the problem. … That isn’t your friend.”
• Extended debate: group sex boundaries, dirty macking, and the morality of sharing romantic partners.

10. “Tricking” and Modern Dating – Cash, Cars, and Complications

• The crew debates cash vs. gifts vs. relationship value.
  • [114:16] Mall: “When you’ve had 20 years of free p---y, you’re not going to just start tricking.”
  • Mall admits he’ll cover hair/nail appointments but draws the line at luxury requests or “pay-to-play” encounters.
  • Discussion of leaked texts showing transactional relationships (Yachty, Lil Baby, OnlyFans girls), with Damaris arguing that sometimes dating men “is work and you should be compensated.”

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• [03:07] Mall: “It would make total sense if Sirius Satellite has made that song…”
• [08:12] Mall: “You was homeless? … That’s some homeless shit.”
• [11:08] Mall: “As a man, when we look at the girl, like, and we give ’em that little head nod, like, three [other women] done flash[ed].”
• [18:02] Mall: “Song of the Summer would be Ms. Rachel’s latest rendition for sure.”
• [29:03] Damaris: “Mariah’s music feels like you’re writing in your diary… That’s the way she talks in her music. It’s a different type of vulnerable.”
• [22:58] Mall: “Music is like, if you have that old bike in the garage, and maybe you take it out for a spin… That’s what music is for Rihanna.”
• [38:39] Damaris: “If we can give [Taylor Swift] all that props for her writing… give it to the Black girls too. That’s all I’m saying.”
• [49:51] Rory: “If the entire podcast community is not invited to the wedding, then I do feel some type of way.”
• [61:17] Rory: “French Montana may rule the world for all we know.”
• [99:19] Mall: “She might have to do a co-Zoom. … First, it’s not your friend. We’ll start there.”
• [114:07] Mall: “I’m not paying for p---y. P---y is like water.”
• [123:12] Mall: “All right, man. Well, let me get out of here. My allergies kicking my ass.”

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Damaris’ Vacation Recap & Pool Fall: 02:28 – 10:16
• Content Creator Vacationers: 12:07 – 13:37
• Song of the Summer & Music Discussion: 16:03 – 22:36
• Rihanna/Beyoncé/New Albums: 22:36 – 26:46
• Mariah the Scientist Deep Dive: 26:27 – 36:55
• Taylor Swift vs. Mariah (Melody & Relatability): 38:02 – 41:41
• Taylor Swift & Travis Kelce Engagement: 45:47 – 54:00
• French Montana’s Engagement, Rapper Royalty: 59:54 – 70:00
• Young Thug/Lyrics/Snitching Debate: 73:40 – 77:13
• Cardi B Security Guard Lawsuit: 77:50 – 84:55
• Voicemail: “Friend” Crossing Lines: 97:41 – 110:13
• Tricking/“Pay-to-Play”/Modern Dating: 112:13 – 124:20

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Tone & Language Notes

The conversation is strikingly candid, with the hosts' signature blend of NYC sarcasm, cultural references, and frank talk about relationships, music, and street code. Damaris is especially passionate about music writing, vocal about boundaries, and uncompromising about friends’ disrespect. Rory and Mal balance self-deprecating humor about their dating pasts with genuine wisdom about relationships and rap culture. The back-and-forth reveals authentic friendship dynamics and honest, sometimes awkward, truths.

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Final Takeaways

• The episode masterfully blends laughs, hot takes, music debate, and real discussion about love, loyalty, and boundaries.
• Listeners get both pop culture insights (from Taylor Swift to French Montana-royalty alliances) and street-level common sense about friendship, snitching, and personal respect.
• Strong themes include: the evolution of hip-hop culture, the cost of fame, the importance of genuine writing, and setting/defending relationship boundaries.

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For more on relationships, music, and internet culture—listen to New Rory & Mal every week.

Transcript

[Damaris]

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[Rory]

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[Mall]

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[Damaris]

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[Damaris]

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[Rory]

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[Damaris]

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[Rory]

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[Mall]

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[Mall]

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[Mall]

The volume.

[Damaris]

No worrying.

[Rory]

We are back. Happy.

[Mall]

Stop doing that. Stop doing that.

[Rory]

But we're back.

[Mall]

But I don't like your radio voice.

[Damaris]

Yeah, that shit annoying.

[Mall]

Just talk like you was just talking.

[Damaris]

Like just chill the fuck out.

[Mall]

Just talk. Just talk like you was just talking.

[Rory]

Trying to say like I. Yeah, but.

[Mall]

I don't like like that man. I don't like that.

[Rory]

I just want to start the episode with energy. Just get us moving.

[Mall]

You said you want to energy, right? Traffic report I'm just saying Mike. Mike never lost when he heard. And now. That's all I'm saying. He never. He never lost.

[Rory]

Who?

[Mall]

Who?

[Rory]

What's the artist on Mike's theme song?

[Mall]

Which? Mike Jordan. On his theme song. What's his theme song?

[Rory]

You know, the Michael Jordan.

[Mall]

It's just an instrumental, isn't it?

[Rory]

Yeah, but, like, who made that?

[Mall]

Oh, I don't know.

[Rory]

Like, who's getting the royalties on that?

[Mall]

Yeah, that's a great question. I don't know.

[Rory]

I think that's a serious satellite radio.

[Mall]

No, that would make. Tony, that would. That would make total sense if serious satellite has made that song the Allen.

[Rory]

Oh, Alan Parsons Project. Okay. That's weird that no one, like, brings that up. That's like a famous.

[Damaris]

Tommy Davis discovered it. All right.

[Mall]

Davis.

[Rory]

I don't think. I think you're thinking of, like, Tommy Davidson, the comedian.

[Damaris]

Oh, yeah. You know what? Different. Yeah, my bad.

[Mall]

It's no way. All right, man. What's the.

[Rory]

You don't think Tommy Davidson found the Alan Bars project?

[Mall]

Damaris came back on complete bullshit.

[Rory]

Oh, for sure.

[Mall]

There's no way you thought Tommy Davidson. Varnell Hill came up with the fucking theme song for the Chicago Bulls. There's no way you thought that.

[Rory]

Mo. She was on bullshit. The moment. We have not seen her in quite some time. I get off the elevator and she shushed me because she was on a work call. But I wasn't saying anything. I just got off the elevator.

[Damaris]

She went, because Rory be coming in there. I'm bullshitting. I just didn't.

[Rory]

I have my AirPods in. No. When I come in, I don't talk to anyone.

[Mall]

Who was on the work call?

[Rory]

She was.

[Mall]

What work call was you. You at work. What work calls you?

[Damaris]

Why you think y' all. My only job.

[Mall]

Oh, well, let me know so we can. You know what I'm saying? Make sure that we accommodate and we.

[Rory]

Can take a vacation.

[Mall]

Like, let me know what's going on. My bad. Get it how you get it.

[Rory]

Look a little tan out in these streets.

[Damaris]

Yeah, you know, I got a little something I try to get, like, my Ruby Rose on. Get my little tan lines. It's a little something.

[Rory]

Damaris, how was your vacation? You zoomed in. You seemed like you were in pain.

[Damaris]

I was.

[Rory]

You were limping.

[Mall]

She wasn't in pain. She just didn't want to be on a goddamn FaceTime.

[Rory]

It was her idea.

[Damaris]

Not true. That's not true. I wanted to talk to y' all more, actually.

[Mall]

You wanted to talk to us?

[Rory]

I really did want to talk to y' all.

[Damaris]

More like, I had blocked out my morning and everything, but I just. I was in a lot of pain. I was in a lot of pain.

[Mall]

Because you fell.

[Damaris]

No, it had nothing to.

[Mall]

Oh, my bad.

[Damaris]

Like, y' all keep bringing up that fall. I have a bruise the size of Texas.

[Mall]

We did okay.

[Damaris]

I posted it on Tick Tock.

[Mall]

No, no, we gotta post.

[Rory]

No, it's gotta be in, like.

[Mall]

That's some DSPs. Yeah, we gotta put you on the DSP.

[Rory]

Yeah, we gotta put a better help ad next to that one.

[Damaris]

Making money.

[Mall]

They need better help. That's the commercial.

[Rory]

Mo, how would you feel if you took your very hard earned money and took a woman to an island? She was sick the whole time, and she was sick. She was just sick. Just sitting there, all. Just. Just all sick.

[Mall]

I would be upset because I could have had somebody else out here enjoying.

[Damaris]

Could he have had somebody else?

[Mall]

No, I'm saying me.

[Rory]

Just hypothetical.

[Mall]

I'm just saying me. Me. I could have had. You know, that's the way I would have been thinking. Like, damn, I could have had Keisha. Could have came out here and been busting it open. Crazy.

[Rory]

Cause Keisha's never sick. She's never on her period.

[Mall]

Never.

[Rory]

Never. Never watches her child.

[Mall]

Never.

[Rory]

She's always free all the time. She is.

[Mall]

It's crazy. Keisha's are always available. I've never met a Keisha that was like, nah, I can't make it. Keisha's. Keisha's is like the cleanup hitters. They come through. When you need a hit, call a Keisha. Guaranteed.

[Rory]

I would just be so tight. And then also, I wouldn't, like, maybe because I'm an asshole. I wouldn't, like, take care of the girl. If I spent this money, I'm like, I'm gonna go and do adventures by myself. Like, if you think I'm not jet skiing because your tummy hurt. Yeah, I'm not wasting all this money.

[Mall]

But, Demaris, your trip was like, you had a good time.

[Damaris]

I did have a good time. It was. It was very relaxing.

[Mall]

Did you miss home? Are you happy to be back home in your own bed?

[Damaris]

Oh, I definitely missed my bed for sure.

[Mall]

Why is that a thing? Why do we always miss our bed?

[Damaris]

I'll be missing my bed, and I've.

[Mall]

Seen some of the beds that y' all be missing, and I'm like, you missed that. Like, I know the hotel bed was better than that.

[Rory]

Way better.

[Mall]

Like, I know sheets better. Waking up every morning. Like, you. How you miss your bed. And the hotel bed is better than your bed.

[Rory]

I love hotel. Hotel bed, though. Like, I actually get good night sleep in hotels.

[Mall]

It depends on which hotel, though. I'm not gonna lie, because one time I slept on a hotel. We was. I think we was on the road together. I forgot what city it was. And that hotel bed, it felt like a was in the mattress. I'm like, yeah, no, I'm cool. Like, wait.

[Rory]

Because we've never, like, stayed in, like, shitty hotels. Sometimes, depending on the market, they're a little. They're a little different.

[Mall]

I want to say it was Charlotte. I think it was the Charlotte hotel we stayed in, but that was like.

[Rory]

A Marriott or some.

[Mall]

That. That a bad mattress, bro. I'm sorry. I ain't gonna lie. I'm a little bougie when it come to. Like, like that, though.

[Damaris]

Really?

[Mall]

Mattresses.

[Damaris]

No idea. We had no clue.

[Mall]

I can't lay on. I can't lay on a bum mattress. I'm sorry. I can't do it. I cannot do it. Like, I don't get no. I close my eyes, but I'm not really sleep. Like, I'm just waiting for the sun to come up so I can start the new day and just get out the room. Like, when it's a terrible mattress. Like, I don't get good sleep on the back.

[Rory]

I could get 12 hours of sleep in the red roof in. In Detroit.

[Damaris]

Oh, you a nasty man.

[Mall]

Are you tripping?

[Rory]

Yeah, no, I went, but I bought new sheets. I didn't use their sheets.

[Mall]

If you feel like you gotta buy.

[Damaris]

Sheets, you don't need to be there, baby. You don't need to be there.

[Mall]

Why you just buy an air mattress to sleep on the floor? At that point, there wasn't enough room.

[Rory]

To put air mattress. The room is the bed.

[Mall]

Put the air mattress on top of the bed.

[Rory]

You ever took a bitch to bed? I definitely snuck. And I definitely snuck into Planet Fitness to shower.

[Mall]

You was homeless at what? That's some homeless shit.

[Rory]

No, it was a creative process.

[Mall]

Okay.

[Rory]

Recording out of a red roof in.

[Mall]

Detroit just so you didn't want to shower in the home.

[Rory]

Oh, I went to go do that because, again, I'm not really that bougie, but there are some.

[Mall]

Oh, my. Yo, that is a bad fall, Yo. Yo, that is a bad ma. Stop laughing. I didn't realize it was that bad.

[Rory]

You gotta look at her face at the end, though.

[Damaris]

You could turn.

[Rory]

Ooh, ooh, ooh. And you hit the side.

[Mall]

That could have Got bad, though, that split.

[Damaris]

First of all, I can't swim. So if I had broken something. If I had broken something and couldn't.

[Mall]

Get up out of the water. You can't swim. Why are you walking that close to the pool? And you can't swim? So this is ready to die for content? You ready to die for content? You would have fell off the other of that infinity.

[Rory]

Yo. I didn't even think about that. If you went the other way.

[Damaris]

That's what the person who didn't save me said. He said if you would have leaned a little bit to the right, you'd have been out of here, and I'd.

[Mall]

Have had no clue. That is crazy.

[Damaris]

Yeah, it was. It was bad.

[Mall]

Yeah, that's worse than I thought. I saw. I only saw that video one time, but it looks now, watching it, like, over. That's a bad fall.

[Damaris]

It was. It was scary. It was very scary. I saw my life flash before my eyes. It was very, very scary.

[Mall]

Damn, I'm glad You all right? I know that leg was burning like a.

[Damaris]

It hurt so bad. The bruise is literally. It's literally so big. It takes up my whole thigh. It's purple. It hur.

[Mall]

You got a. A theragun. I think everybody should have a thera gun. Do you have one?

[Damaris]

I have something similar.

[Mall]

The.

[Rory]

Is a therapist.

[Mall]

You know what the theragun is? No, You. You got to get a thera gun. You got to get a therap.

[Rory]

Can you explain to me what that is?

[Mall]

It's the massage. It's like the personal. The handheld massage thing, you know, like.

[Rory]

Oh, yeah. Okay. Yeah, yeah. I have one of those in during track.

[Mall]

That. That's the greatest ever right there.

[Rory]

Oh, yeah, no, those are great.

[Mall]

The greatest ever.

[Rory]

But that's. That's not gonna break up that clot. That's on Damaris style right now.

[Mall]

100%. That's absolutely. That's what it does.

[Damaris]

It hurts, and I got a mosquito bite right in the middle of it that I can't scratch because it hurts so bad. Just pain. I'm fucked up. Like, I'm fucked up.

[Mall]

Will you go back, though, to Curacao?

[Damaris]

Oh, for sure, because there's a bunch of stuff that I didn't get a chance to do just because I was in pain. I had a lot going on. We just weren't there for enough days, so.

[Mall]

Well, it's good. Good to have you back. Good to see you.

[Damaris]

I definitely want to go back.

[Mall]

Glad you made it back from your fall.

[Damaris]

Thank you.

[Mall]

As we go into fall. That's all that was a metaphor. She's the groundhog.

[Rory]

She was the groundhog.

[Mall]

Let us know. We got three more weeks to somewh.

[Rory]

As soon as the bruise goes away, that's when a fall will officially start.

[Mall]

As soon as your bruise is gone, Baby D, we gotta start. I'm saying, going into that fall weather.

[Rory]

How quickly did he laugh after you fell?

[Damaris]

He didn't laugh. He. I just sent. I sent him the video and was like, this is why you shouldn't leave me alone by myself. He came outside and looked at me and just was like. And shook his head and just went back inside.

[Mall]

I like him.

[Damaris]

I think that was him, like, making sure I was, like, alive.

[Mall]

And he would have ran over there and tried to, like, tend to her womb. Yeah, but get this pansy out of here.

[Rory]

Like, already ruined the trip.

[Mall]

I think it's this pansy. Like, come on, man. But if he looked at you and was just, like, in that moment, as a man, you want me to tell you what he was thinking? What? I got the wrong bitch out here.

[Rory]

I have seen Keisha sprint around a pool.

[Mall]

I'm gonna keep it real with you. In that moment, he for sure thought about three other bitches he could have. Just keeping it real, Baby D. Cause you my. As a man, when we look at the girl, like, and we give him that little head now, like, three done flash, like, I could have had three. That would never do this dumb.

[Rory]

Everything you just spent. What am I doing out here?

[Damaris]

Why are y' all trying to convince me that my boyfriend hates me?

[Mall]

Nah, he don't hate you. He. He loves you. I'm sure he does.

[Rory]

Nothing's worse than getting post nut clarity. When you haven't nutted, like, you just get clarity. Like, what am I doing?

[Mall]

Yeah, like, when you see a girl by the pool and she just bruised on thigh, she almost fell. She's trying to make content. You just like, I just wanted to come out here and fuck by the pool, get some sleep, eat some fruit. She making content. Yeah, it's all good. But we are back and sponsored by Boost Mobile.

[Rory]

That is a fact.

[Mall]

And merch is on sale right behind Baby D. Look at that. That prosperity pack. You know what I'm saying?

[Rory]

Available now.

[Mall]

Available now.

[Rory]

Have you ever been on vacation with a content chick?

[Mall]

No.

[Rory]

I did it once, and I was very, like, scared that I was going to hate it, but it matched well with me wanting to have my alone time. She got to go with her tripod and go find on the resort to do her content and I got to be alone.

[Damaris]

That's exactly what was going on.

[Rory]

Like, it's actually not that bad. I thought the content chick was going to ruin every moment. We wouldn't be able to even have fun or live in the moment or have experiences. It was actually okay. I got my alone time.

[Mall]

I've only dated one girl. I think that makes.

[Rory]

And she drove us into the sand dunes on an ATV and almost killed us.

[Mall]

Okay.

[Rory]

Because she wanted to film while driving an atv. I shouldn't let a woman drive an ATV to begin with.

[Damaris]

You just could not be misogynistic. Like, there was no even. There was no need to be misogynistic in the whole story. I'm telling you what happened out of your red ass.

[Rory]

I had to pull it out of there. It just exists in my aura. But I'm. I'm explaining what happened just because you view it as misogynistic.

[Damaris]

Mall. How was your experience with dating a content chick?

[Mall]

It was cool because she was like a gamer. So she would just like go in like her gamer room and close the door and just be in there for a couple hours.

[Rory]

Bringing the. The PS4 to Cabo is crazy, period.

[Mall]

She's a gamer? Yeah.

[Damaris]

She make money too.

[Rory]

Oh, okay. Well then yeah, I can. If she got to work. I can see that.

[Mall]

I thought that was just like the coolest though.

[Rory]

But just pulling up the. The Call of Duty, like in Aruba.

[Mall]

Not on vacation. I've never been on vacation with a girl making content. But I don't really. Now that y' all, like, ask me that. I don't. I don't really. I don't even know if that's by, like, default. But I don't really date women that make content like that.

[Rory]

Well, let me not say content. They post a lot on Instagram.

[Damaris]

Don't do that. Don't do that.

[Rory]

Don't do what?

[Damaris]

Don't minimize. Don't minimize content creators. Are you. I'm not talking about women that just post on Instagram.

[Rory]

Girls that want a lot. There's not a brand deal attached. They just want to post on the Internet.

[Mall]

Is it just Instagram or is it like she has like a whole, like, she's on a like, press run, but she got to post it on Tick Tock. She got a post.

[Rory]

Oh, yeah.

[Mall]

She gotta post it on Instagram.

[Rory]

Every day is a press.

[Mall]

She gotta post it on X. Yeah.

[Damaris]

YouTube.

[Rory]

She needs an app where you can just hit send on one video and it goes to all platforms.

[Mall]

Yeah, that's That's a lot.

[Rory]

But no, the chick that I was went on vacation with, she was an actual like, content creator. I mean, I would say her body was probably a lot of what people tuned in for, but she makes money off her social media.

[Mall]

Okay.

[Rory]

So that's a. I not minimalized.

[Mall]

Yeah. The girl I dated, I'm not. I don't think people would tune in to watch to see if she could beat that level. Like, she was very attractive, had a nice body. Like, it wasn't seeing. They wasn't trying to see if she could beat like level six.

[Rory]

They just let her run through the Call of Duty map. Nobody even shoots.

[Mall]

Nobody gives a giving her free weapons. Yo, you need a bat, you need a gun. Like, you see, that's not fair.

[Damaris]

I think a lot of women who do, especially that type of content, like, it's cool that they can do that. It's also cool that they look good too. But for example, I come on this fucking podcast and people. The men do. Some of them do care about my actual opinions. Some people do just watch, you know, for the way I look. But some people like me because of the things that I say too.

[Rory]

It just.

[Damaris]

It's added pluses that I also am attracted.

[Mall]

Yeah. I mean, it's no secret that the jumping jack clip is going crazy right now. Just cause you was just stood up and jumped up and down like.

[Rory]

Well, everyone's in athletics. That's what.

[Damaris]

I'm saying.

[Mall]

And somebody.

[Rory]

And somebody shouldn't go on vacation.

[Mall]

And somebody sent me a video of the, like, military. I don't know what country they was in, but they was telling them to do jumping jacks. People. I tried to tell Baby D. People don't know how to do jumping jacks. We gotta find that clip. That clip. Look, baby, look, that's not funny. Look, that's not funny.

[Rory]

Okay? I gave George Bush a lot of shit in the mid 2000s. Maybe they did need a regime change. I apologize to the Bush administration. I didn't see why we needed to invade and help with our army. Man, she was getting a little out of control. No wonder fucking Al Qaeda just steamrolled everyone. Because look at who they was fighting against.

[Mall]

Jumping jacks is. It's like you have to be coordinated. A lot of people don't have yo you. I'm telling you, takes coordination to do a jump, as simple as that sounds. It does take coordination to do a jumping jack. I can do that. But a lot of people can't do that.

[Damaris]

I can't. I never could look at that.

[Mall]

That's real. That's not a skit.

[Damaris]

That's real.

[Rory]

Look at my man. Second to the right.

[Mall]

That's what I'm saying. So, baby, when I asked baby, then she was like, yo, what you mean? I'm telling you. Some. I've seen it in real life. Some people don't know how to do jumping jacks. You never had gym class in school and see people do jumping jack. You're like, what is. What is she doing?

[Rory]

I kind of remember everyone being able.

[Mall]

To do jumping jacket. No way.

[Rory]

I remember some people were a little slower at them, but everyone could do this.

[Mall]

That is almost as difficult as patting your head and rubbing your stomach for some people. That's why I asked, baby.

[Rory]

This took me decades, but that's why this was. This one was.

[Mall]

You do that. Because I know people don't really know how to do jumping jacks.

[Rory]

I don't know if I. Oh, I can do it the other. No, I can't. I can only do it this way.

[Mall]

With the right hand on your head.

[Rory]

Yeah. I can't. I can't.

[Mall]

Righty, right? I'm lefty, you lefty. That makes sense.

[Damaris]

Y' all already talking about album of the Year.

[Mall]

Album of the year. The year's not over.

[Damaris]

Don't matter.

[Mall]

Song of the Summer. Can we start there?

[Rory]

Is there one?

[Damaris]

Nah.

[Mall]

Definitely. What? It's definitely a song of the Summer.

[Rory]

Not like a Song of the Summer.

[Mall]

Not like us joking.

[Rory]

Never mind. Bad joke.

[Damaris]

Thank you. What's the song of the summer, Mom?

[Mall]

To me, it would have to be Somebody Loves Me, Party and Drake. I think that's the song of the Summer. That's the one song I could remember, like, at any summer event, any show. The reaction when that went off, definitely Song of the Summer.

[Damaris]

I feel like when that song was really kind of like, being the one. I feel like it was still spring. Like, it may be top of the summer.

[Mall]

No, that's the.

[Damaris]

When I was in Houston, that was the song that everybody. That and what the helly was what people were singing.

[Rory]

But, oh, yeah, what the helly? Shit was going crazy.

[Mall]

Nah, that's not Song that. That. Somebody Loves Me. Now this. Bryce and Christian.

[Damaris]

That's what I was about to say. I would go picking up a lot.

[Mall]

Of Sting, but that, to me, does. It's still not. It doesn't go off. Cause Somebody Loves Me. That song is like. Everybody is singing that as soon as that shit starts. Like, every girl in the club, wherever you at, is singing that. Soon as somebody loves Me to come on. They singing that?

[Damaris]

Well, as a person that was outside a little bit this summer, I would have to go with Shake it to the Max. That's, that's what I would have to go with. As far as New York.

[Rory]

Okay. I'm not mad.

[Mall]

I'm not mad at that. That's a good pick.

[Damaris]

That's what I would have to go with. It would be Shake it to the Max.

[Rory]

Yeah, I haven't really been outside really at all. So I, I, I, I'm out of this conversation. I feel like anything I say would be be wrong.

[Mall]

Song of the Summer would be Ms. Rachel's latest rendition for sure.

[Rory]

Mr. Sun, Mr. Sun Sun, Mr. Golden.

[Mall]

Sun that go crazy shined, you are such an orange.

[Rory]

Hello, indigo violet. I love the rainbow.

[Mall]

Yeah, dog, that is crazy.

[Rory]

Yeah. I don't know, but I feel like the last few years, despite me not being outside like that, even if I wasn't, you would know the distinct. Like, this was a song of the summer. And that's been kind of weird for the past few years, in my opinion.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Mall]

That we don't have a distinct song in the summer this year or the past few years.

[Rory]

Past few years, I would say. No, I mean, I'm not, I'm not trying to make a joke. I guess last, last summer you would say, not like us was that.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Rory]

But the year before that, 2023. I don't remember. But I could be wrong. There could have been a distinct one and I just can't remember. But. And I hate doing the Google because they always, they'll give me, like, you know, some Sabrina Carpenter song that I've never heard as song.

[Mall]

Yeah, no, I'm just talking about just off of just being out and, you know, watching, seeing what I'm seeing online. I don't, I don't now, again, that Chris Brown Bryson record is definitely.

[Rory]

But it's also August 28th. Like. But yeah, we have three days left of song.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Rory]

I mean, you don't think what me and Khaled gave him today could be up there? You don't think Khaled and Rory Lovestone is up there?

[Mall]

That was the, that was the confusion that was in your. Your text messages with Lenny the other day.

[Rory]

Yo. Confusing me with Rory Stone. Love is the funniest thing in the world to me for some reason. Callie put out his first single. I guess you would consider this the first single featuring Vibes, Cartel, Bougie Bonton, Bounty Killer, Movado, myself called you Remind me. I, I feel like he DM'd every chick I've ever known and put them in the video. Video's hard. The record's cool too. It's also seven minutes. I think it's two different records. We're recording this now at 2:30. He still hasn't released the Post Malone and NBA Youngboy record, but he's supposed to put that out today as well. So three records in one day. You remind me, hot shot. And then I guess the second half.

[Mall]

Of you remind me I didn't hit a record yet.

[Rory]

It's cool. I mean, we were talking last episode what we think Khaled would do with a Listers. This is like the most A list dance hall record I've ever seen in my life.

[Mall]

Okay.

[Rory]

This is really.

[Mall]

Yeah, we got vibes. Buju Bounty.

[Rory]

This is swagger. Like us for dancehall.

[Mall]

Got it.

[Rory]

So, yeah, it was a cool record. I thought at first, all right, maybe he's probably going to lean full dancehall on this one or go more afro beats style. But he's also has a Post Malone and NBA Youngboy record today.

[Mall]

That's an interesting mix.

[Rory]

It's probably gonna be hard.

[Mall]

I want to hear that. Yeah, I want to hear that.

[Rory]

I feel like with Post, you kind of can't miss if you. Because Khaled makes records that sound very expensive. I feel like with that mix with Post Malone, you kind of can't really miss. With super high level production in Post Malone, I think you're going to be okay.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Rory]

So, I mean, I think it's been a good, good comeback based off his movie with Mark Wahlberg and his two Drake records.

[Mall]

And you still think he has a J verse coming? No. Okay.

[Rory]

I know. Would I like one? Yes.

[Mall]

But you don't think it's happening.

[Rory]

All right, I don't.

[Mall]

Okay. All right. We're just checking, man, because the other day you kind of had a little different tone.

[Rory]

Well, no, I just think if he's inspired, maybe he'll rap. But I don't really. I don't see it. But I mean, Rihanna changed her Abbey, so we know she's on this Khaled album.

[Mall]

Rihanna did change her Abby, and everybody started going crazy. What does this mean? Does it mean music is coming?

[Rory]

I'm telling you, that lipstick is coming.

[Mall]

Is not making no music. The money that Rihanna's making in the beauty world and in the fashion world, she doesn't. Music is like, you know, if you have that old bike in the garage and maybe you might take it out for a spin around the block. That's what music is for Rihanna right now.

[Rory]

I mean, she changed the header, too, to, like, a mixture of all her album titles. So people are like, oh, it must mean that. No, it's probably a fenty line that's called rated R or something.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Rory]

I don't. I don't really see this, but it does add to my I need my flowers list because I said she was going to tease music and not give us any, so.

[Mall]

Well, we still got to see if she decides to put a. A record out. I don't think so, though. I don't. I really don't think Rihanna is inspired to create or make music at this point. I mean, obviously she did the Smurf. Yeah. That was the movie that she was. She was a part of. But outside of things like that, I just don't see it, man. I. I think that artists as big as Rihanna, you know, and they were able to pivot into other. Other forms of, you know, branding and. And kind of using their. Their status to create income and other avenues of streams of income and things like that to support their lifestyle. I just don't think she's in love with music like that no more, man.

[Rory]

I'm going out like John Elway. Anti was my last album. It's a classic piece, period. Like, I'll see you later. I gave you a bona fide fudgeing classic. I'm going to go off in the sunset with all my kids and my makeup.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Rory]

I'm not going to try to make anti 2 or make something that everyone else is going to compare to every fudgeing album. My discography is incredible. I'm a pop icon.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Because that I gave you Anti.

[Mall]

That is leaving alone. Because that is the thing that's going to happen. She put out a new project. All they gonna do is compare it to Anti. And if it's not as good as Anti. Yo, she fell off.

[Damaris]

Yeah. We waited this long.

[Mall]

We waited this long for this.

[Rory]

You know how hard it is to make an album as good as Anti.

[Mall]

That's what I'm saying. So if she comes back and doesn't make an album as good as Anti or better, people gonna just, you know, as soon as the songs, maybe the album, maybe an hour and a half.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mall]

Two hours into after the song dropped, everybody gonna be online like, yo, we waited this many years for that. So as an artist, it's like, why do you want to put yourself in that position, especially when you don't have to? No, I don't. Rihanna does not have to make music ever again in her life. Like, she has classic songs, she has a classic album. She did the Super Bowl. She's fucking the queen of the beauty world right now. Why would she create an album for people? People ain't dissing the fucking fenty shades. They ain't all like, yo, this new shade is trash. So it's like you don't even have to have that energy, like, coming to you of people, like, just shitting on your product. Like, so it's like, why put yourself in that position? Especially when, you know, just the landscape of streaming and how artists are paid and things like that. I just. I don't think that it just, you know, for somebody like Rihanna, I don't know if that makes sense for her to put out an album.

[Rory]

That is actually why I do give a lot of credit to Beyonce. Cause to me, she's in the same boat and obviously in the same boat and continues to just make great albums.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Rory]

But Beyonce, that's great. Like, you didn't need to do that. I love Cowboy Carter.

[Mall]

What Beyonce is doing is she's touring.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mall]

Every album is not score. You know what I'm saying? So she does that. Goes around the world, hits every soccer stadium and just sells it out. And the color silver is not available nowhere in the world. Like. Like that. You know what I'm saying? It's like, that's what bees.

[Rory]

All the gays can't find asshole's chaps anymore. They're pissed.

[Mall]

Like, she just doing shit like that. Like, you know, I mean, but it's still. And. And still it's aligned with her and who she is. Her. The Cowboy Carter album. Obviously she's from Texas, so it's still part of her brand. It's not like some. That's just foreign to her.

[Rory]

Obviously she was at the point that you are a legend. You're this generation's Michael. And I don't know if we're gonna get any music. And then you go, yeah, I'm actually gonna give you three albums. There's gonna be three parts to this.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Rory]

That's crazy.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Because she doesn't need to do that. So I. I do appreciate that, but we didn't talk about this last week because we wanted to wait on Damaris because she was posting every single Mariah the scientist caption of all time. If Rihanna does work on the album, I hope to God Mariah writes for her bro. Cause this heart sold separately. Shit is crazy.

[Mall]

Is that the name of her album? Yeah, I told y' all the other, earlier this week, I never really got into Mariah the Scientist. Like, I hear her music and the songs when, you know, girls post it on their stories and things like that. Like, that's how I hear her music. I've never really sat and listened to it, but if you're saying the project is dope, then I gotta definitely give it a listen.

[Rory]

Oh, no, this. I mean, I'm happy that Thug is now free, but it was. It was nice, the pain that it put Mariah through, because, boy, yo, did this album touch my soul?

[Damaris]

Are you cool? What song do you like?

[Rory]

I'm so excited. I would never want to thank the state's District Attorney of Georgia, any law enforcement Atlanta, but Through Darkness Comes Light, and Thug definitely sat down for all of us so we could get Mariah in this amount of pain to give us an album like this.

[Mall]

Who's, like, the producer she worked. She works with?

[Rory]

That's a good question.

[Damaris]

I actually don't know. Let me look. Well, the song that I was gonna do, a lyrical breakdown of 1985, did it.

[Mall]

Oh, word.

[Rory]

Okay, that makes sense.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Which record is that?

[Damaris]

Eternal Flame.

[Rory]

That definitely sounds like some 85 for sure.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Mall]

All right.

[Rory]

Oh, 80. All right. So 85 did 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7. He did this entire album.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Mall]

Oh, yeah.

[Rory]

No, I'm like, he. I mean, of course there's some co producers on other stuff, but. 85. 85. So much sense now why I also love this album.

[Mall]

Okay, so the music is not gonna be. I'm gonna be familiar with the music at least.

[Damaris]

Yeah, you're gonna like the music. Yeah.

[Mall]

I'm not familiar with her pen, though.

[Damaris]

So this is where. This is where. Right? I be in the comment sections like a stand fighting for Mariah. Because to me, singing ability is not everything. The same thing with rappers, right? Like, I don't. Your rap voice isn't everything. It's important, but it's not always everything. To me, the first thing I hear when I hear songs is not the beat, is not the melody. The first thing I pay attention to is lyrics. Like I've told y' all before on this podcast that I'll. Yes, I will read a song through and read the lyrics before I even listen to the song. Like, that's how I. That's just the part of music that matters to me most.

[Mall]

Maybe if I did that, I would listen to half of this shit. Cause these niggas don't be saying nothing.

[Damaris]

They don't be saying nothing. That's why I don't listen to a lot of music these days, right. So Mariah's music to me. So if Summer Walker's music sounds like. And I think I tweeted this. If Summer Walker's music sounds like what women sound like when they cussing a nigga out or when they're talking to their homegirls about a nigga. Mariah's music is what it sounds like when you're writing in your diary and you're, you know, no one will ever read it. That's what she said. That's the way that she talks in her music. It's very. It's a different type of vulnerable. It's very poetic. It's very sometimes self destructive and self deprecating. And I feel like a lot of women feel this way, but in the climate that we're in, it's not okay to be this down bad about niggas. You can't say this shit out loud. Like. And she's some of. She's one of the only people who does it. Like, she's just so dedicated to this love shit and she's just so in it in real life and in the music. And I think that that's admirable. Cause I'm all for feminism. I'm all for, fuck these niggas. They're not worth the headache and the stress and the broken heart.

[Rory]

Sometimes you gotta ask daddy, am I your baby?

[Damaris]

Yeah, exactly.

[Mall]

Did I read that she's a real scientist?

[Rory]

I don't know why, that was just fun. I'm sorry, it was just a funny question.

[Damaris]

She was going to school for something. Yeah, St. John's for something scientific related.

[Rory]

If I'm not science, she's not a science. But she's not a science.

[Mall]

I'm saying she doesn't see the new planet in the solar system. No, she's not doing that. But I'm saying she really went to school.

[Damaris]

She went to school for biology. She wanted to be a pediatric anesthesiologist. So biology.

[Mall]

She's educated.

[Damaris]

Yes. That's why they call her Mariah.

[Mall]

Yeah, I think that's fly. I think.

[Rory]

No, for sure. It's just funny. Is she a scientist?

[Mall]

No, I mean, you know, she studied. I know she went to school and she was really like studying it in the book. So I think that's dope. Yeah, that's fire. I gotta check it out now that I know 85 produced it.

[Rory]

I think you'll like it.

[Mall]

Music I know I'm gonna be familiar with, obviously, but yeah, you Know you're saying that her pen is fire. So. Yeah, like I said, I like the songs that I hear on, you know, social media when girls make videos and things like that. And I look and I say, oh.

[Damaris]

My defying women be posting.

[Mall]

You know, I mean, there's some, there's some, there's some booger wolves in there too, but, you know, oh, music is for everybody. We not tripping.

[Damaris]

Yeah, I did, I did my little, you know, my little video and was like, man, don't nobody hear that eight track you got and playing in the background. I'm like, damn, like, thought I was being artsy.

[Rory]

But I do feel really bad for you now that I know that, like, lyrics are the first, first thing that you listen to. Cause in this day and age, I've, I've heard.

[Damaris]

I don't listen.

[Mall]

Like, listening to the, like reading the lyrics before you listen to the music is almost like eating dessert before the entree comes out. Like, what are you doing?

[Rory]

I've heard a million song songs with shitty lyrics and good music that were great. I don't think I've ever heard a great song that had good lyrics and shitty music.

[Mall]

You don't. You've never heard a song that had great lyrics and shitty music?

[Rory]

Yeah, I've never heard a great song. You just that.

[Damaris]

Well, you wouldn't think it was a good song. Well, you wouldn't think.

[Rory]

Even though the lyrics are one of the most important things to me, period. But I, but see, I don't think Pete said, oh, I've never. I don't subscribe to that theory that everyone has that he has shitty beats. But even when he has shitty beats, even though Nas wrapping his ass off, I don't like the song. So to me, great lyrics, bad music doesn't equal a good song. No, but great music, shitty lyrics can make for a great song.

[Mall]

Half of the rappers now like, yes.

[Rory]

So that, yeah, that's why you could never go and think of just lyrics. Because then you just, what you gonna like in 2025?

[Mall]

The music is the first thing I like. It's the music that. You know what I mean, that just does something like, it's like, okay, it has my ear now I'm paying attention because of the music.

[Damaris]

Well, to be fair, I mainly do that with R B. I would not do that immediately with rap because you wouldn't be able to get. You wouldn't be able to listen to anything.

[Rory]

But a lot of stuff like Mariah and like Early Summer, not so much. The last two projects but like, her eps, a lot of that. I mean, basic in a good way. Like, a lot of it is just guitar riffs or just keys and them talking their. But to me, that's still good music.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Rory]

R B. Like, it's rare in R B where it's like, that beat is shitty. Hip hop happens all the time, and pop music happens all the time. But traditional R B, yeah, it can. There can be bad beats, but bad R B beats are still better than some good hip hop beats.

[Mall]

I need the music first, the melody second, and then the lyrics.

[Damaris]

Oh, yeah, I can't.

[Mall]

Cause I'm gonna hear the music in the melody way before I even hear what you're saying.

[Rory]

Dude. Sometimes I've heard shitty beats with good melodies, and I've gotten through it. Sometimes a melody will carry on A melody will carry on A melody is.

[Damaris]

Probably the most important thing. Like, I. Yeah.

[Mall]

Cause for me, it ain't what you say, it's how you saying it.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mall]

So it's like, all right, cool. Like, all right. I don't care if you say the most prolific shit. If you don't got the right inflections and the right melody and the right tone, it's like, that shit sound terrible.

[Rory]

I mean, shit, some of the greatest R and B songs, if you go to genius to look up the lyrics, looks like a fucking haiku, right? They said six words. It was the most profound ever.

[Mall]

And you're saying that especially in the 90s, though.

[Rory]

Oh, hell yeah.

[Mall]

Like, a lot of the way. The way they wrote R B was like, very like. I'm like, that's it. That's the first verse.

[Rory]

It was. There wasn't even verses. It was bridge, hook, bridge, hook. The verses were bridges. Like, that actually could have been a chorus if you wanted it to be.

[Mall]

Yeah, yeah, like that. Oh, that was the B hook. Okay. Got you. Gotcha.

[Rory]

But. But, yeah, I definitely think you should check it out.

[Mall]

I'm a riot of scientist. I'm checking out the Heart Soul separately this weekend. I'm gonna be listening to that.

[Rory]

Which record did you want to bring up? Jamaris?

[Damaris]

No, I just. It's Eternal Flame. The lyrics to Eternal Flame, basically where she just said, I blurred the lines Followed a stranger past the vines There were flowers hanging Birds of flying that were mine still his true nature was a disguise I was hypnotized Then I felt a change There were winds of racing and raging tides and then I sensed the danger from up behind When I turned to face it to my surprise A familiar vice that that was.

[Rory]

You slipping into the pool.

[Damaris]

Shut up. That is. People aren't writing like that anymore.

[Rory]

That's very wordy for R B, which I appreciate. I think that's a crazy talent.

[Mall]

Like, what is her singing? Like, is she.

[Rory]

Like.

[Damaris]

She's. Mariah's not a strong vocalist.

[Rory]

Yeah, I wouldn't put her in the vocalist.

[Mall]

She has a pretty tone. She's more of a. Tone.

[Rory]

More of a. I wouldn't put her in Whisper. She's not Whisper singer, but I wouldn't. She's not a vocalist.

[Mall]

Is it. Is it a mix between Janae or.

[Damaris]

No, not that strong. It's. It's. It's. That's why people don't. That's why where Mariah gets all the flack is because she's not a strong singer. She's not bad. She's not bad to listen to. I've heard her live. But it's not strong singing. Like, if you heard her, you wouldn't be. Like, you wouldn't. If you weren't listening to what she's saying, you wouldn't pay her any attention.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

And that. That is where she doesn't get the recognition that she deserves. But she has her own lane. I think her tone is enjoyable. A lot of people don't, but I enjoy it.

[Mall]

Okay. All right.

[Damaris]

But I think we should bring back making writing important to music.

[Mall]

Well, writing should always be important in.

[Damaris]

Music, but it hasn't.

[Rory]

Say it's not Chat gbt. Don't bring the lyrics back.

[Mall]

That's. That's. That's very.

[Rory]

So. All right. I'm one of those people that thinks, like, if you use Chat GBT for lyrics, I can't really respect you as a lyricist, but some of y' all need that, and maybe it will save. Maybe it'll help some of y'. All. I feel like it's fine if you guys want to use Chat gbt, please, because whatever you're writing with your man's and them is not good.

[Mall]

It's not hitting.

[Rory]

But I mean, either way, I have it up there for. You know, I wouldn't say album of the year, but it's definitely in my top 10 now for R B.

[Damaris]

Welcome. Welcome to the.

[Rory]

I know. I think it's great.

[Mall]

I think it's really, really popping R B this year.

[Damaris]

Happy to have you.

[Rory]

Don't. Don't fully quote me, because I didn't sit here and put a list together in my head. But. But there has. I mean, there also hasn't been too. Too much R B. I'm putting, to begin with five. Me personally, maybe I would have to.

[Mall]

Sit in the top five album of.

[Damaris]

The year for R B.

[Rory]

For R B, yeah.

[Mall]

Wow.

[Damaris]

I'm putting.

[Mall]

Oh, I gotta go check.

[Damaris]

But again, like I said, lyrics are everything to me, so I judge that. Like, most importantly, I'm gonna go listen.

[Mall]

To this Mariah the Scientist album, and if I don't get top five or top 10, I'm coming in here Monday and I'm cursing y' all out.

[Damaris]

Well, then, look. Well then, what up? Like, you cursed me out before.

[Mall]

Just saying, cuz it's like, y' all can't be putting a. A 20 on a 10. Like, come on now.

[Damaris]

I don't do that. I've never put a 2010.

[Mall]

So you stamping it?

[Damaris]

I'm stamping, I'm stamping. I knew it was gonna be that when it first came out. Have you heard Burning Blue?

[Mall]

That's one of the joints I did here on.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Mall]

Instagram, some.

[Damaris]

Some gas.

[Mall]

I like that record. Yeah, yeah. So it's more of that on the album. All right, I'm gonna check out. Like I said, I like what I heard. I just never heard, you know, listen to a. A full project.

[Damaris]

I'll say this.

[Mall]

Craig Davis, is this her first album?

[Damaris]

If. No, no.

[Mall]

Okay.

[Damaris]

No. If Taylor Swift can be Taylor Swift, then we need to give Mariah the Scientist more credit. And I'll just say that because I thought writing was important.

[Mall]

Hold on.

[Damaris]

Relatability is what makes you become the biggest pop star in the world. Then give Mariah her credit because Taylor Swift ain't no Whitney Houston. And that's not taking anything away from. Because that's. That's not.

[Mall]

I want to say there's nobody.

[Damaris]

That's not her bag. Like, she's not. Vocalism isn't her bag.

[Rory]

Taylor is a better singer than Mariah Sein.

[Damaris]

I don't think so.

[Mall]

I don't see. You don't listen. You don't hear Taylor.

[Damaris]

I don't hear Taylor.

[Mall]

You gotta walk for walk. You don't go for walks. You don't take walks and have Taylor in your ears.

[Rory]

You don't know Baby T. You wanna see your own.

[Mall]

You don't know Baby T. You don't.

[Rory]

Know Baby T. She know when all the new hot snacks is coming out.

[Mall]

She know when all the new hot guitars is dropping.

[Damaris]

Before y' all hop in my. Yeah. Before y' all hop in my inbox saying I'm disrespecting Taylor. I'm not. Because I'm I am one of the people that thinks that Taylor is talented. Comparing her to Mariah the scientist is not a knock on her at all because of how highly I speak on Mariah. But Taylor is not some strong vocalist. But what everybody talks about is Taylor's writing and her relatability. So if we can give her all that smoke and all that work and all that props for her writing and her relatability, I'm just saying give it to the black girls too. That's all I'm saying.

[Rory]

Who do you think writes better melodies?

[Mall]

Who?

[Damaris]

I don't know. I don't know. I don't know who writes their melodies. I know Mariah writes her melodies. I don't know if Taylor writes her melodies. I know she writes her songs. I don't know if she writes her melodies. Exactly. There's a lot that goes on.

[Rory]

I mean, with writing R B in the writing, is the melodies not.

[Damaris]

Well, yeah, but there's usually there's people, you know that. There's people that come in and help.

[Mall]

People structure their melody producers and things like that.

[Rory]

Of course, I'm. I'm sure 85 as a producer too. I've seen work. I'm sure he also helped because 85 is a great writer, understands melodies. He's a real, real, real musician.

[Damaris]

Shout out to 85 him.

[Rory]

I'm sure there was. There's always help with everybody. But I would say Taylor Swift writes better melodies than Mariah the scientist.

[Damaris]

Okay, you would like bump Taylor's before Mariah's.

[Rory]

What do you mean by bump?

[Damaris]

Like bump, like play, like in a car.

[Rory]

Oh, okay. Because Mariah first on a lot of those.

[Mall]

If I get Rory's car and he got Taylor Swift playing, we're gonna have to have a conversation. What's up, fam?

[Rory]

I probably knocked Bad Blood in In the whip before.

[Mall]

Okay.

[Rory]

Now we don't like Bad Blood.

[Mall]

No, no, you know, I. I like Taylor Swift. I'm just saying if I get in.

[Rory]

My home, that's a in the act legend. You could throw on Bad Blood for sure. Nobody that's knocking with the 12 inch subs in the back. That is knocking for sure.

[Mall]

Swift. And an accurate legend that has never. That has never happened.

[Rory]

No, it's on my same playlist with Coogee Rap. Survival the fittest.

[Mall]

Yo, playing Kuji rap is crazy. Like, yo, what's up, man? We all like. What's the vibe like, what you going through in your car. If you go from Cool G rap.

[Rory]

To Taylor Swift, I actually feel like I should get more into Taylor Swift. I, I don't like Boycott. I'm not an anti Taylor person. I just haven't taken the time to like get into her catalog. I'm sure I would probably like it because I love pop music.

[Mall]

I like Taylor Swift. But I mean I got to be, I can't be at that. I got to be doing something like I got to be in Target or something like that. I got, you know, you have to.

[Rory]

Be waiting in line where they sell the cd.

[Mall]

Yeah, toiletries. I gotta. Because she helps you. I feel like, like Taylor helps you remember that you need paper towels. Like when you go to Target and you pushing the car and you walking around and you like Taylor's, she's going to say something where you be like, paper towel. Yeah, you got to go get the paper.

[Rory]

Start thinking about your ex. And I get ex never had paper.

[Mall]

Towels in her crib. Yeah, that's why I like Taylor. She helps you get your crib together, get your home together.

[Damaris]

No worry.

[Rory]

I know I've never asked you this before in your entire life, but have you ever saw a phone plan and thought, wow, great price. And then your bill was higher.

[Mall]

Like definitely.

[Rory]

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Ah, come on.

[Mall]

Why is this taking so long?

[Rory]

This thing is ancient.

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[Mall]

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[Mall]

Speaking of getting it home together, congratulations to Taylor Swift.

[Rory]

Yes.

[Mall]

Travis Kelce announcing their engagement. I think that that was big, great, happy news over the week, so. No, you didn't think I was happy for them, man. They look like they're happy, like they enjoy each other, like they're having a great time and doing life together.

[Rory]

We gotta, we have to stop this.

[Mall]

Congrats to them.

[Rory]

No, they look like.

[Mall]

I feel like they're having a really good time together and really enjoying each other.

[Rory]

We all just need, we need to stop lying, myself included on this podcast. As far as you were not happy for them.

[Mall]

I was, I was happy for Travis.

[Rory]

You would like during this week when he was just quiet by yourself, he was like. You felt a sense of joy.

[Mall]

Yes. That was beautiful news. I was so happy.

[Rory]

You scrolled past, it went and then just kept going.

[Mall]

No, I was so happy for Travis. I was so happy for them. I was like, you know what? Good for them, man. Like, make it official, do get married, have beautiful children and enjoy life.

[Rory]

I, I truly don't think I've ever been happy for a couple that I didn't know really. By the, like, the actual, like how, like I felt a sense of joy when two people found love unless I knew them.

[Mall]

Okay.

[Rory]

Like, this is good. I mean, good for them.

[Mall]

Yeah, but that's what I said. It's a great, it's great for them.

[Rory]

Like, I think, I think Travis's mom is happy.

[Mall]

Happy.

[Rory]

I wouldn't. Yeah, I wouldn't say I'm happy.

[Mall]

Yes. You know that they're getting married.

[Rory]

I don't care.

[Mall]

Okay.

[Damaris]

Yeah, exactly.

[Mall]

But yes, but you don't do that. Don't do that because if Mariah and Thug get married tomorrow, you're gonna come in here crying, so don't do that.

[Rory]

Because you did cry when she left the stage when Doug got out and.

[Damaris]

She was like, yeah, I cried because she cried. She was crying and I was crying. It was an emotional stated. Yeah, it was emotional. Stadium. Her boyfriend had been locked up. She found out right then at that moment, that day that he Was getting out like, she was crying. It was emotional. I was very happy for her. Yes.

[Rory]

At that moment, I got an emotion of some things that I got.

[Mall]

You're not gonna be happy for her if she. If she announces that she. She got married?

[Damaris]

Aww. I hope you like, I don't. Okay, so when I say, like, genuinely happy, like, if I scroll past some shit, like, I'm thinking, like, when I put my phone down, I'm still in a good mood. When I like, oh, my God, I'm really happy for them. Like, that changed the trajectory of my day. I don't give a. About nobody else getting married. I ain't no ring on my finger.

[Mall]

And with that attitude, it won't be.

[Damaris]

Because I'm not happy for strangers.

[Mall]

Exactly. See, you receive what you give. Reciprocity into the universe. Right, Exactly. See, you got to be happy for others so that others can be happy.

[Rory]

So you shouldn't, you know, work on yourself, set your boundaries and find your soulmate. You should just. Just, like, clap for celebrities when they get engaged. That. So then that way your soulmate will then find you.

[Mall]

Well, it's kind of like. Because we saw the. The start of this. We followed it. We kind of like, okay, cool.

[Rory]

We thought it was a joke.

[Mall]

Yeah. We thought it was a PR stunt and all of these things, which it might still be, but, you know, it's. It's okay. I will say married.

[Rory]

Okay. It did validate podcasting.

[Mall]

Why.

[Rory]

So I'm happy about that because he jokingly wasn't. This whole thing started when he was talking with his brother, like. Like about Taylor. Like, nah, she. She cute. Didn't that start the whole thing? He was on a podcast. It wasn't because he had four touchdowns that week. He talked about it on a podcast.

[Mall]

Nothing to do with it.

[Rory]

That legitimately started the. The rumor conversation. And then they ended up meeting because it became a running joke on the Internet.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Rory]

And then love was found.

[Mall]

So we. We put them together.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Rory]

I think anything podcast related we are attached to as a. A genre and a culture and as a family.

[Mall]

It's a culture family. See, family is getting engaged. They get. They got engaged to marriage fan.

[Rory]

Now if Travis stops podcasting after he gets married, then he's a culture vulture.

[Mall]

Yeah. Then he's out of here. Then we kick that.

[Rory]

Yeah, I can't.

[Mall]

Like, you just.

[Rory]

You used us to go find love with, like, I guess some. Some people like her.

[Mall]

Yeah, some people.

[Rory]

And then you just. You left. You left us all hanging. If the entire podcast community is not invited to the wedding, then I do feel some type of way. I feel like that's. We're owed that at least. Like, you think Travis and them got the same CPM if we didn't put the legwork in first first. Like, do they even. Does Taylor even hear their podcast without us? That's where I'm at with this whole.

[Mall]

Oh, man.

[Rory]

Where do you. How do you plan a Taylor Swift wedding?

[Mall]

It's a big wedding.

[Rory]

I was talking the last time how they even do Thanksgiving. I would be so scared. And if I was Travis right now. How do you do a Taylor Swift wedding?

[Damaris]

I'm sure it's so much less work than you think it would be.

[Rory]

Like, I'm sure it's a lot. Bono has to marry us. Like, I don't even know how you do this.

[Damaris]

Like, just. They're regular people. They like regular stuff.

[Rory]

Taylor Swift is not a regular person.

[Damaris]

She's a human.

[Rory]

I agree that she is a human.

[Damaris]

So outside of the security measures, I'm sure she just wants, like, normal girl stuff.

[Mall]

She going, they gonna go somewhere to another country with people that don't even know who they are.

[Damaris]

There's no country they will go to where people don't know who Taylor Swift is. But I hear what you're saying.

[Mall]

No, you go to some countries and they might not know. Remember when Beyonce and Jay was walking to the loose? He's like, who are you? And Jay was like, who are you, homie? Didn't know. He didn't know who Jay and Beyonce was.

[Damaris]

Yeah, but Jay and Beyonce aren't Taylor Swift. And that's no disrespect to Jay and Beyonce. That's no disrespect to Jay and Beyonce.

[Mall]

That is crazy.

[Rory]

I think there would be countries where people would know Jay Z. I don't know. Taylor Swift's a little different. I feel like you go to Antarctica and the penguins gonna know who Taylor Swift.

[Mall]

You don't think if. You don't think if Jay and Beyonce go to Antarctica, they're gonna. Somebody's gonna.

[Rory]

Jay was on the end train going to the Barclays, and this one, the woman was like, yo, you famous? And he's like, sort of.

[Mall]

I just think that. I think that as. As big of a star as Taylor Swift is, if she goes to other countries, she. She just has this very, like, kind of like girls typical aesthetic, where it's just like, she could be working in a library, a bookshop. She could be a barista at a coffee shop. Like, she has this look about her, that just fits in, like, you know what I mean? Like, it's like you'll.

[Rory]

She could be Sarah Jessica Parker's daughter more or less. Every white woman.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Type thing. But I mean, she's still Taylor Swift. There's gonna be, like Navy SEALs around her. So everyone's like, who the fuck is that?

[Mall]

I think it's easier for Taylor Swift to walk around in Manhattan, kind of like, dress down, just chilling, like hoodie, than it would be for Beyonce. No, I think Taylor Swift. I think Taylor Swift could fit in Manhattan way before Beyonce.

[Damaris]

Oh, well, okay. So, yes. In disguise, right? I think in disguise, I'm just.

[Mall]

No, just dressed down like. No glam, just like straight up, like, sweats, you know, jacket, whatever. Going to, like, the store, get something like some groceries.

[Rory]

So mall in the scene before Beyonce.

[Mall]

I don't think so, man.

[Damaris]

So this is the thing.

[Mall]

I think Taylor Swift fits into Manhattan way more than Beyonce. Beyonce stands out.

[Damaris]

We. We have this thing, right? And this is. This is a. It's not a racist thing, but there's this thing where you know how white people think all black people look alike? Black people kind of think all white people look alike a little bit. And it's like to white people, they.

[Mall]

Will notice Taylor, Rory and Peach look just alike.

[Rory]

That is actually very true.

[Damaris]

White people say that me and you are twins all the time. They say I look like mall with hair all the time. All the time.

[Rory]

That you don't.

[Damaris]

I swear to. That happens a lot, though.

[Rory]

Yo, if first day of the pod walked in, and if I told y', all, yo, this is my older brother Peach, nobody would question it.

[Mall]

No, nobody.

[Rory]

Same parents. They'd be like, yeah, this is his.

[Mall]

Older brother, but never question it. I'm like, of course that's your brother.

[Rory]

If y' all told me that, I would go, and this isn't a racist thing. They must have different fathers, different mothers. Yeah, see, because you guys don't look alike.

[Mall]

That's what I'm saying. We both blind, actually.

[Rory]

It's not racist.

[Damaris]

Yeah, but I'm telling you that white people recognize the faces of other white people.

[Rory]

Listen, man, dude, Taylor swift is also 5 10. We have to add that factor in a 510 white woman walking down the street, you're gonna sort of look.

[Mall]

That's regular Manhattan. You know, many models live here.

[Rory]

I know. And you look at the 510 model, no matter what, and then you go, oh, that's Taylor Swift.

[Mall]

Right past them at Puerto Vida, every week I go get my avocado toast and smoothie. I don't pay them no mind. Taylor Swift might have been sitting.

[Rory]

There's a racist and hate white women.

[Mall]

No, I love white women. I'm just saying Taylor might have been sitting in there and I didn't even know that was her.

[Damaris]

Her.

[Mall]

If Beyonce's sitting in Puerto Rico, we're.

[Rory]

Also not gonna know.

[Mall]

I'm like, yo, Beyonce's in Puerto Vida getting avocado toast right now.

[Damaris]

Because she's more relevant to your life.

[Rory]

Yeah, a 13 year old girl.

[Mall]

She's gonna catch my eye though, is what I'm saying. I'm gonna look. If Taylor Swift was sitting down. I'm not, I'm. I'll look and just keep like.

[Damaris]

Do you know why you're going to look? Because Beyonce is your type and Taylor Swift is not.

[Mall]

That's not true. That's not. Because it's a tight thing. She's just gonna catch my eye. Like I'm just gonna like glance and look. Like I'm not gonna. It's like a kind of like a. If you have blinders on, like, you see it, but you don't really like Taylor. She fits into the aesthetic a little more. Like where it's like, you're not gonna really like. Whereas Beyonce. I'm gonna be like, oh, shit. Like, Beyonce was just standing right there. That's Beyonce right there with Taylor. She could walk right past you and you wouldn't even really.

[Rory]

But in a non creepy way, everyone in this room when they see an attractive black woman looks at them. So yes, I would.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Rory]

But if I would look like, oh God, that's Beyonce.

[Mall]

But Taylor's an attractive white woman and I would look.

[Rory]

That's why I said we shouldn't be the gauge of this. Even though I think if I saw Taylor Swift walk down the street, I go, holy, this Taylor Swift. And I think everyone around me would do the same thing. It's a tourist city too. People got their kids, their kids would immediately be like this Taylor Swift until.

[Damaris]

Yeah, a teenager would immediately recognize Taylor.

[Rory]

Swift before she couldn't take one step out the Eminem store. Whereas I do feel like Beyonce could maybe get, get to the steps at Times Square before.

[Mall]

Yeah, who's the, who's the person you saw in public for the first time and was like, oh. And they were like, just like kind of like blending in. Like, not like an event that they were doing, not like a show.

[Rory]

Chris Rock. When we did our, our trailer for.

[Mall]

Our Atlanta, that was, that was hilarious.

[Rory]

But I've seen Chris Rock on Bleaker. Like, just walk. I'm like, that Chris Rock. Like, he. He does that in Soho and does blend in. But everyone is like, oh, if you double take, that's Chris Rock. He's probably the one, I think the most in the city that I've seen.

[Mall]

Other than that.

[Rory]

Like, I don't know if I've seen celebrities like that.

[Damaris]

Yeah, I haven't really seen celebrities, like.

[Rory]

The people at that unless we were an event.

[Damaris]

Not like just outside. If we were at an event, we see them all the time, but just outside. I really haven't seen them. I've seen like, famous, like tick tockers and content creators, but. But not really.

[Rory]

When Beyonce was at Griffin, though, that was like the wildest because I didn't like immediately recognize. It was dark. And the. The two twins, you know, they used to dance with her, were going nuts in the middle. And I was like, oh, that's the Beyonce twins. Which is up because I just don't know their names. And then Beyonce was just sitting up on the couch the whole time. And Austin sat me like, you just see Beyonce in the back? I was like, oh, yeah. That was kind of the. The most blended that I've ever seen. Yeah, but that. It was dark.

[Mall]

So seeing Leonardo was like the. The one for me.

[Damaris]

I was like, can't believe you ain't called me.

[Mall]

I was like, that's. This is Leo, dog. Like, and he was just, baseball hat on, walking to the club. Like, I'm like, bro, this is one of the most famous people ever. Like, he just walked in like, yo, so how y' all doing, man? I was like, you can't just walk past niggas like that. Leo. Like, come on, this is DiCaprio, bro.

[Damaris]

This is DiCaprio.

[Mall]

Are you kidding me? Like, that was the craziest shit to me. Like, seeing Leo, like, walking. Walking in the club, baseball hat on, just chilling. To me, that was like the fly. Like, okay, like, he just be. He don't need no cameras. He just walk right in, like, go.

[Rory]

Sit down next to the 22 year olds.

[Mall]

I mean, you know, just living like 21 plus clubs.

[Rory]

So, you know, I mean, good flowers around you.

[Mall]

That's all you need to call them flowers. We just need some, like, unicorn blood garden. Yeah, just put some flowers in the garden. That's all. Yeah, just make me look good. You know what I'm saying?

[Rory]

Who do we think takes whose last name?

[Mall]

One thing I can promise you is Taylor Swift is not losing that last name.

[Rory]

All right, but what about, like, legally, not brand wise. She'll always be Taylor Swift on Spotify.

[Damaris]

Swift, Kelsey.

[Mall]

Oh, yeah. She got to be Swift. Kelsey, then Kelsey.

[Damaris]

Kelsey Swift. Yeah. Taylor, Kelsey Swift. It's long, it's wordy.

[Rory]

Yo, down the back of a jersey will sell millions.

[Damaris]

Oh, my God, bro, I might.

[Rory]

I might buy it. Listen, man, Travis was one of the only white players to take a knee during the national anthem. Them. He's progressive. I could see him putting Kelsey Swift on the back of his jersey.

[Mall]

He better not.

[Rory]

Not. Not that their family would need any money.

[Mall]

But his father's from a different time in America. That will not be happening.

[Rory]

And from Ohio, I can promise you.

[Mall]

Papa, he will not. Papa ain't going for it. I can promise y' all that right now. He don't care. Swift. Whatever she do for a living, the Kelsey name stays. I can promise you that.

[Rory]

Yeah, yeah. The name got my. My father's blood on it.

[Mall]

Yeah, they got my daddy's blood on it. Yeah. He ain't losing that name. You crazy. Nah, his family ain't going for that.

[Rory]

But all right. Of course we're very happy and hope that they have a long lasting relationship. Never divorce, anything like that, all that. They don't. They don't. They don't need money. But I would explain if my. My grandfather was still alive, he would be livid at me if I would do something like this.

[Damaris]

That.

[Rory]

But I'd be like, yo, our family name just off those jersey sales. Like your great, great, great, great, great, great, great grandkids will never need for anything. If I put out the swift, feral jersey, like, it's over. We. We. We know. I have to think about money for the rest of our lives.

[Mall]

Yeah. That licensing agreement, like, we. Yeah, we good.

[Rory]

Just like, I know Taylor sells out stadiums, but that jersey.

[Mall]

Imagine that jersey in every seat of the stadium. Y. Yeah, yeah, no, I get it.

[Rory]

I'm not putting on our license. It doesn't have to go on our gravestone.

[Mall]

Right.

[Rory]

Our kids could just still have the feral, but for this.

[Mall]

But it's license in agreement. Yeah.

[Rory]

You want to put an asterisk next to it? We can do that.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Swift feral aster on the back of the jersey. Like, I'm with you.

[Mall]

We got to make it. We got to come to an agreement, though. Yeah, I get it. I understand. And continuing with the theme of love, Rory, it's that time of year. Everybody's growing up, everybody's, you know, settling down and of course, wanting to have families shout out to Bronx. Another Bronx Legend.

[Rory]

Nah, he's French. He's different now. He's different type. You call everyone a Bronx legend. This is a little different.

[Mall]

Yo, French, I get it. Family, you know what I'm saying? Listen, it is what it is. Shouts to French Montana happy for him and Sheikah Mara. Excuse me if I didn't, you know, put the accent on that. They Princess, Princess of Dubai. And they announced that they are engaged. So congratulations to French and Sheikha Mara on their engagement.

[Rory]

French is what from like Boston Road or some?

[Mall]

Nah, French is from. French is from. I want to say not Boston road. He from. French from. I'm close on my side of town.

[Rory]

Okay, well, either way, I'm not saying this. I. I know this is absolutely true love and I love everything for them. We gotta like go through French's whole career and the legend that he absolutely is is he wasn't even. He was holding a camera for Max B at one point. Look at to he has made it to where he may end up like on a senate floor at some time. He's going to be a diplomat. He may end up depending on how Dubai does their the king of Dubai. Well, like I don't even think hov could talk to him right now. Well, this is like French Montana might be one. It might be one a French mont one Behove at this point, if you want to talk rappers, he's the greatest of all time.

[Damaris]

Richest.

[Mall]

As far as rappers.

[Rory]

Yes.

[Mall]

As far as rapping or riches, I don't care. Oh, you talking about. Oh, you talking about. Just playing.

[Rory]

Listen, I understand that, that hov said he was texting Obama and all that. This is different. French Montana may rule the world for all we know.

[Mall]

No, no, but look, he cannot. He cannot become the king of Dubai.

[Rory]

This is the plot to Aladdin because I don't think you understand this, but the role.

[Mall]

He can't become the king of Dubai though.

[Rory]

He can't fr. We've seen the way French has finessed from East Tremont to where he is today. If you don't think French Montana will not find his way. He went through the Kardashians. He's went through every step a man could go to.

[Mall]

He's collecting all infinity stones. This is.

[Rory]

Yeah, I thought J with the Rothschilds was the craziest I've ever seen in my entire life. I think this might be the. The number one hip hop couple that's ever existed. The king of Dubai. What type of like, what type of French record do you think we getting? What type of Talk. We getting on Mac and cheese 15.

[Mall]

One thing I could promise you, he will not be the king of Dubai. That's not. He. He not gonna infiltrate that. No, that's not gonna happen. No, it's just. That's just not gonna happen. It's great for him, hopefully. You know, he's. He's happy. He's, you know, him and his wife are gonna have, you know, beautiful family and all that, but he cannot be crowned king of Dubai. Dubai. It can't happen.

[Rory]

I don't know, man.

[Mall]

It's just different over there with them type of Rome.

[Rory]

Rome fell at one point.

[Mall]

That. That is true. That is true.

[Rory]

I think French is the one to do it with Dubai.

[Mall]

French is gonna calm the. Oh, man. Everybody getting engaged. Baby D. That gotta do with me. All right, now see, that's why you ain't gonna be in Curacao falling in the pool no more. You don't want to get engaged.

[Rory]

Wait, didn't it. Was it Rihanna or Beyonce? Who. Who performed at some?

[Damaris]

Like both of them.

[Rory]

Yo, imagine if French hire hoven Beyonce to for his reception. That like now what are we talking when it comes to rap rapper list? What if he hired Beyonce to perform at his reception?

[Mall]

That's fire.

[Rory]

Nah, French, that's different talk. He'll probably hire different talk.

[Damaris]

But I don't think. I don't think HOV would do it. I don't think HOV would do it.

[Mall]

I think I. That money over there, Jake gonna be like, fire up the puma jet. We out. You kidding me for that ticket? You crazy as hell. They tell Hov, yo, listen man, we got 20 million for you because how much you think? 20 minutes.

[Rory]

How much you think Beyonce, he ain't going. And Rihanna, they. How much money they got with that?

[Damaris]

Probably around 50 million because that was.

[Mall]

The opening of a hotel that Beyonce performed at, I think.

[Damaris]

Oh yeah. I think Beyonce was an open up hotel. Rihanna was a birthday party.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Nah, there was definitely a wedding on one of them.

[Damaris]

Or Rihanna was a what? I don't know.

[Rory]

I think Rihanna was the wedding.

[Damaris]

Yeah, Rihanna might have been a wedding, not a birthday party.

[Mall]

Beyonce was paid 24 million for an hour long performance at the launch of the Atlantis Royal hotel in Dubai. 24 million for an hour. You don't know no nigga that get 24 million an hour? Like, you kidding me? If French hit HOV like, Yo, I got 20 or 20 pack for you, Jay. I just want to hear. Streets is watching. I just need you to hear. I just need to hear. Cuff up along where I'm from. Marcy, son. What? For 20 M's? If y' all think Jove ain't taking that, y', all. He's doing that crazy. That nigga's still from Brooklyn. He a hustler.

[Rory]

I think he doing it for 10 M's.

[Damaris]

I don't think he doing for 10 M's.

[Rory]

How many fly to Dubai to record, yo.

[Mall]

How many songs? If they play, if they pay for the. For the. For the jet. If they cover the jet and they cover hotel, though, dog, no, Hov might do it for 10.

[Rory]

10 million all in. He's still doing that. What's that jet to do by private 100?

[Mall]

Maybe a little more than that. Probably, yeah.

[Rory]

10 million all in.

[Mall]

No, we just saying that French could get off some sick right now.

[Rory]

9 million. She performed like, a few records. And if I remember correctly, it wasn't even like she had the whole, like, a million dancers. Like, I feel like they choreographed that. She just came out and sang. I'm glad French really isn't in beef right now, but all right. Him and 50 have had a. A long, long lasting up and down relationship, if you will. Sometimes you think they're cool, but they're usually not. 50 is taking $10 million to perform. Give Richard out trying at French's wedding.

[Mall]

Of course he is. Like anybody is taking that. I don't care how much beef we got got that cooks the beef.

[Rory]

Oh, no, that's over.

[Damaris]

Do a live pod. Lowest number for y' all to do a live pod. French Montana wedding pre show.

[Rory]

I do that for 15,000.

[Damaris]

God damn. Cheap, cheap ass.

[Mall]

All in. All. All. All in Dubai. They paying for the job.

[Rory]

I might do it to break even.

[Mall]

Yeah. I ain't going to lie. He from the Bronx. I might put the Bronx.

[Rory]

I'll just be honored to be a guest.

[Mall]

Yeah. I'll put the Bronx discount on top of that for French. That's my guy. It's all good. Go play some live golf while we out.

[Rory]

French owns Lift Golf now.

[Mall]

Yo, man, listen, man. Everybody getting engaged, bro.

[Damaris]

Which one of us is next?

[Mall]

You?

[Damaris]

Not me. Which one of y' all is next?

[Rory]

I been there, done that. I feel like I got the T shirt, too.

[Damaris]

Better than that one fm.

[Rory]

It was fun at the time, but also, we had to put more respect on French's name. The amount of rappers that go out to Dubai and just end up, you know, horse. Which is fine. I respect it.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Not saying I would be above that. If I got a bag in Dubai and They were like, here is horse.

[Mall]

Yeah. Some flowers for you.

[Rory]

Yeah. He had. Like, that's where French's mind needs to be studied of everything that he does and how he capitalizes on it. Like, he's not just going to be friends with the Kardashians. Like, Chloe is going to launch my career. I'm going to get a million Kanye west features. I never should have gotten off this opportunity. He went to Dubai and found the Saudi princess.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Rory]

How do you even meet that woman? Like, I understand his club and French is. Has hit hit records, but, like, was she at the club just to see, like, French perform? How you even get tapped? Like, how you get past security to be like. I'm trying to, like.

[Mall]

Well, French has. He has. He has. He's from. That. His. His family is from.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mall]

Morocco. So he has ties and family over there on that side of the world. So it may be with something like that somebody he knows, owns something in Dubai and introduced him and things like that. That's how they probably met and started dating. I can see it happening, definitely, just.

[Rory]

Because he has family. My dad lived in the dmv, but I never got to meet Chelsea Clinton.

[Mall]

Just because you met Joe.

[Rory]

That is true.

[Mall]

Yeah. See, can marry him if you want. Like, if you have me.

[Rory]

I'm not gonna do what Monica did. So I don't know if I'm. I'm like, yeah, tight. But I would like some Clinton blood money. I feel like it'd only be right.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Rory]

I give a lot of it to Haiti.

[Mall]

As you should. Yeah.

[Rory]

No, I would definitely do the right thing with it, but.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Mall]

Because they took it anyway. They stole that money anyway. Give it back to Haiti.

[Rory]

And who's my man? The. The fake dictator that clean cleaned off the map.

[Mall]

Oh, Gaddafi.

[Rory]

Yeah. Like, I. I'd find his family overcharged for what they did to the coal crush.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Rory]

I just can't wait to see what French does with his money. And I hope it's Buy More Spotify bots.

[Mall]

French got to have some of these rappers perform at his wedding, though. He got to get that off. He got. He has to, like, that's such a. Like, I have to, like, what. Shout out to French Montana man and his new new fiance, Shaker Mara.

[Rory]

I also, the way you describe HOV with people, and I don't think they fully understand it of this. This is not supposed to happen. Like, where Hov is from, who his friends are. This wasn't supposed to happen.

[Mall]

It's the greatest story.

[Rory]

Can you, like, you know some of Francis Cross crew, some of the scariest human beings I've ever seen in all of New York City history, which is saying something. That wedding is going to be nuts.

[Mall]

Crazy.

[Rory]

You'll fly in all of the Bronx.

[Mall]

Gotta take the Bronx to Dubai.

[Rory]

What if they do it in America?

[Mall]

Nah, I can't doing that. There's no way. No way.

[Rory]

That's more of a stunt. Like, we can do it for free out here.

[Mall]

No, it's not. No, the stunt is doing.

[Rory]

No, they're gonna. They're gonna like, buy Chicago or something.

[Mall]

No, nah, do that right in Dubai. Had that illustrious luxurious at the highest level. The highest level of luxury. Yeah, man. Shout out to French man. Cocaine city, huh?

[Damaris]

And shout out to her. I heard French is a good guy, so she got her a good husband. Shout out to her.

[Rory]

Every interaction I've had with friends. She's been a very, very kind person and a good dude. Every interaction I've had with him. Do you think Eric Adams is. Is invited? Because that's kind of been like his, you know, Batman and Rock.

[Mall]

Like, that's definitely his man. That's his man. That's French man right there.

[Damaris]

You know, he in there. He gonna bring dream doll.

[Rory]

He gonna go on this. He's gonna go on the city's dollar and embezzle. You know, Eric Abs looking at this like a lick. Like, he's gonna find a way. This may be part of his. His campaign of like, yo, you see I got the ties with Dubai now.

[Mall]

Yeah. French and was like, yo, so what's the date? So I could block it out. Out for sure. 100%. We'll be there.

[Rory]

We're talking about Mariah the scientist and thug. At one point, did you hear the thug interrogation?

[Mall]

Yes, I did. Clip. So obviously, you know, the clip with Young Thug in an interrogation room. The audio came out and, you know, a bunch of people ran to the Internet and, you know, they're like, oh, young thug did bad. He's a snitch. He's a rat. You know. You know how people do it. So my take on it is the first thing I thought was, you know, was the guy peewee, was he. What did he have to say? And he hit the Internet and was like, yo, thug didn't snitch on me. Yada, yada. So I was like, okay, if the guy that allegedly got ratted on is saying that thug didn't rat on him, no matter how we feel. We heard an audio clip, but the thing is, people don't take into account the Things around it. When was the Pee Wee guy arrested? Was he in jail before that interrogation or did that interrogation cause him to get arrested? That's the whole difference in the world in the entire thing. If he was in jail before that, if they already had him arrested and whatever they had him in there for, or it's tough to put that on Thug and say Thug is a. Is a snitch because they already have him. They already arrested him, already investigating whatever they have him in custody for. And then what Thug was saying was, I they say that Peewee did this or I heard that this is what they're saying. Like, I don't know. So to me, again, if the guy that he's saying ratted on him is saying he didn't. And then if, you know, again, we don't know the dates, if the dates align and Pee Wee was already in custody when Thug was going through that interrogation. It's hard to put that on Thug. It's hard to put that label on him. It's just a lot of. You can't play with that. You can't just throw that moniker on somebody so quickly without really knowing everything that's going on. That's why I stand on. Again, this is just off the clip now. Now, if that interrogation things he said in that interrogation caused them to go and find Peewee and arrest him and lock him, then you look at Thug in a whole different lens. Like, yo, that's crazy. But if he was already in there and they got him arrested and locked up and they already know what he did and it's already been announced what he's locked up for, then it's like, okay, who don't know that that's what they saying, that that's on the news, that that's what he's locked up for. Every. That's public information at that point. Thug is not in that case. He would not be given the police information that they don't already have, have I?

[Rory]

Okay, civilian. So I'm asking you questions in this regard. So. All right, then why would Guna be. He. He took a plea. I understand that he said that YSL was a gang. Nothing was used in any case whatsoever. Nobody did any type of time. Anything Gunna said, it only ended up on the timeline. It never got brought up in court and never. He took a plea deal. Why. Why would he be one then?

[Mall]

Because.

[Rory]

Because if this is the case of Thug and I listen from what I remember spinning police to some degree. But you're still saying something. Yeah, but speaking to the police, from.

[Mall]

What I remember in the Thug Gunna situation. Well, number one, Thug is saying Gunn is a rat. That's number one. The guy that is allegedly being snitched on is saying that Gunna ratted on him. Pee Wee in this situation is saying that thug did not rattle. So let's just start.

[Rory]

So is that the rule is who decides?

[Mall]

No. But no, the thing is you don't know. Again, we don't know if Peewee was in custody when that interrogation.

[Rory]

I understand all that.

[Mall]

If that interrogation caused them to go and get Peewee and arrest him. We don't. That's what I'm saying. That to me is going to make all the difference in the world in this situation. That's all I'm saying. I don't think that I'm saying you can label somebody that if what he gave them was already public information and the dude was already in custody, it's like, okay, so what is what helping? What snitching is Thug doing in that situation?

[Rory]

I mean, I guess I just, I feel like the rules get the goalpost moves all the time for everything. And I'm again outside looking in asking if Gunna said something. And it never put anybody away whatsoever. Never got brought up in court the same way. Thug in this interrogation, none of that led to anyone hold.

[Mall]

Be clear though, I'm on the side the of he should have never been in that interrogation.

[Rory]

Okay, that's what I was getting.

[Mall]

You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say can and will be used against you. And you can have an attorney present. I had the right to. I wouldn't have been saying anything. You're not interrogating me for two hours. I don't have nothing to say for two hours. So again, so that, that, that does look away. But if he's in there, he not giving him any information that got anybody arrested or incarcerated. You can't put that label on him is what I'm saying. And then again, the guy that you're saying he snitched on is saying he didn't snitch on me.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mall]

So I'm saying no matter what you feel about it, if the dude that's locked up, you know what I'm saying? And, and incarcerated is saying he. Whatever he said didn't have nothing to do with me. Like he didn't snitch on me. We can't sit here and say that.

[Rory]

He is okay again. All right, I'll use an example. Outside of gang shit, I remember when John Gotti Jr. Got outed for sitting down with what? Murder his son when he was on trial. There's a 302. It exists. And Gotti was talking to the police, and it was about people. Everyone was dead or, like, it. It wasn't true or whatever. Everybody I know in Howard beach calls him a snitch. Nobody went to jail.

[Mall]

Yeah, but people.

[Rory]

Nobody, not one person was hurt by what John Gotti Jr. Did in that 302 meeting. But he. Everyone I know in his neighborhood refers to him that way. Me personally, as a civilian, I'm like, well, nobody went to jail at all. Like, he talk about crimes. Everyone's dead in this. Like.

[Mall]

Like, to me, I'm like, that's another thing. People feel like if you snitch on somebody that's dead, if you. If you give interrogation and you give information on somebody that's dead, like, oh, yeah, he killed that person or he sold them drugs, people look at that. Like, that's a nostalgy. Because the person then who's gonna go to jail for that, he's dead. He's in the cemetery.

[Rory]

Like, I mean, Cardi B was 10 toes.

[Mall]

Was she Cardi B rat? No, she took the stand, right?

[Rory]

Nah.

[Damaris]

All right. Coming for her. My says she ain't do it.

[Mall]

Oh, she on the defense. She playing defense.

[Rory]

Yeah. All right, nice. I mean, I know this wasn't a deposition, but that's, like, one thing. I don't want to be in a deposition because it usually involves a lot of money and being sued. But I am so jealous of celebrities that have so much fun during these depositions. Like, Wayne's deposition was the funniest thing I've ever. Justin Bieber's was the funniest one. Dave Portnoy and Michael Rapaport was fucking insane. Like, Cardi sitting there. This was one of the more entertaining clips I've seen in quite some time. And I don't even fully know this entire backstory of assaulting a security guard. So let me give to you.

[Damaris]

Okay, so back in 2018, I want to say when Cardi was around 13 to 14 weeks pregnant with culture, nobody knew she. The doctor's office that she goes to, or I don't know whether he's a new doctor, but they shut down their office. They're in a building, right? Obviously, because in New York, nobody has their own offices. They're in a building. The office is in a building. She goes in the building, is going to the office where the doctor has shut down the doctor's office for her. Cuz She's a celebrity, and a security guard for the building spots her. Allegedly the security guard seen her and was like, oh, my God, that's Cardi B. And was like, on the phone. And then Cardi looked over at her and just kept, you know, shuffling and kept moving. So then the girl then says again, oh, my God, that's Cardi B. And now has her phone and is pointing her phone at Cardi. And Cardi's like, yo, why you recording me? Like, you supposed to be security for the building. The you recording me for?

[Rory]

That's crazy.

[Damaris]

And the girl basically was like, oh, my bad. And stopped. And then she started following Cardi to the doctor's office. Like it's just trailing behind Cardi, following Cardi. So then Cardi is like, yo, like, what the. Like, get the out my face. Why the you following me? Ain't you supposed. You know how Cardi talk. Like, ain't you supposed to be security? So the girl allegedly then gets in her face, and they're, like, arguing back and forth. Like, she has Cardi, like, against the wall. Cardi saying, I felt fear, like, I'm pregnant, so I can't do anything. This girl is twice the size of me. And they're, like, waving each other, waving fingers in the faces, yada, yada. Somebody who works for the doctor's office apparently came in between them and kind of broke it up and got Cardi in the office. The woman is suing, if I'm not mistaken, for emotional damages.

[Rory]

Jesus Christ.

[Damaris]

She said that Cardi, like, traumatized her and that Cardi assaulted her. So that is what the lady is suing for. So Cardi's up on the stand, like, I never, never touched her. I was pregnant. Like, there's nothing I can do. The lawyer is doing a terrible job. Whoever. I think her name is, Imani Ellis. Whoever her lawyer is, is doing a terrible job because his. What I. What I think he's trying to do is trying to piss Cardi off so that Cardi snaps and cusses him out. Cause he's on there asking Cardi about her wigs. Like, oh, let me see her wigs.

[Rory]

Let me see if your nails black and shit. Yeah, yeah.

[Damaris]

Like, it's like he's trying to rile her up. But Cardi isn't falling for it. Cardi's just kind of like giggling on the stand. Like, what the fuck is going on?

[Rory]

And even the stuff I saw, like, the judges did step in at certain points. Like, why are you asking these questions? Have nothing to do with what the fuck we're here for.

[Damaris]

Yeah. So it's, you know, it's like Cardi has said, my lawyer is a Jew. He gonna chew up autumn charges. Cardi don't lose when it comes to. When it comes to court cases.

[Mall]

Yeah. This is just ridiculous. Like, we know what this is. Like, this is just another one of those situations where somebody is looking for some type of damages, hoping that Cardi even settles out for 500K. You know, that type of shit where it's just like. Just to go away. But she's obviously not doing that. She's going to court. She's taking time out of her schedul in the midst of an album, roll out all of these things because she know that this is just complete. So I mean, you know, hopefully this will be over soon and Cardi can get back to doing what she do.

[Rory]

This is where I will actually defend the celebrities and do feel for them in this situation. Like, this is going to cost Cardi outside of time. What you're saying roll out money. Like, I gotta pay.

[Mall]

Ah.

[Rory]

How much do you think her lawyer probably charges per hour? Like, I gotta pay this amount of money for this bullshit. Because a security guard, the person that's supposed to secure the building, was following me.

[Mall]

Right.

[Damaris]

With a camera.

[Rory]

Like, what the.

[Mall]

Where was Cardi's. Where was her security at?

[Damaris]

I don't.

[Rory]

It's a good question.

[Damaris]

I don't know if her security. Her. I don't think her security was with her at the time. I think it was now. It was early in her career. Not only was it early in her career, I think she didn't want to attract.

[Rory]

Cardi was Cardi.

[Damaris]

Well, Cardi was Cardi. Yes. I think her security was probably outside. She's going into the coochie doctor like, once she's in the building, the off. They shut the doctor's office down for her. Like, I'm sure they don't. They think she's fine, you know, so. Because bringing security, which you also just brings attention. Like, I'm probably. She's probably just in there trying to sneak in.

[Mall]

Yeah, but it also. It also keeps you away from bullshit like this, though.

[Damaris]

Yeah, yeah, very true.

[Mall]

Because your security guard could have kicked that phone out of her hand.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Mall]

You know, I mean, not literally, but I'm just saying. No, Liz could have stopped that from happening to where it's like. And where's the. Don't they have cameras in the hospital?

[Damaris]

It wasn't a hospital because it's a private doctor's office. So it's in like a building. You know what I'm saying?

[Mall]

Saying.

[Damaris]

So, yeah, I'm assuming that there's no cameras.

[Rory]

I mean, either way, like, you know, this is where I feel like sometimes with America, freedom is too much. You shouldn't be allowed to follow somebody. No, like, that shouldn't. Oh, well, first member. I could do this. I can follow someone all I want.

[Mall]

Follow me.

[Rory]

If somebody. If you follow me, I should be allowed to.

[Mall]

Yeah, I should be allowed to punch in your face to spit on you. Spit on your face. Like, get away from me. Yeah, I should be allowed to do whatever I need to do to keep you away from me.

[Damaris]

You in my face, yelling and screaming and I'm pregnant. I have every right to cut your.

[Rory]

Throat from the root. If you have the freedom to follow me, I should have the freedom to knock you the out for doing it.

[Mall]

To stop you from following me. Yeah, absolutely.

[Damaris]

But you know what's crazy is I think Cardi probably would have done that, but she was pregnant, so she was terrified. Yeah, this.

[Mall]

This sounds like it'll be over soon, though. I think this would be.

[Damaris]

And also, like, let's just be honest, I think that this is great. Free promo for the album. Cardi looks great. She's taking up the news cycles. But I hate that she does have to go through this. I can't imagine some big ass girl following me around and getting in my face and I'm pregnant and I can't like, defend myself.

[Rory]

That also, like, what's your end goal? You get a video of.

[Damaris]

No, the end goal is this. That's probably why she started getting in her face and doing.

[Rory]

I think you're giving this security guard too much credit. I don't think this is a plot where it's like, I'm gonna follow her and then sue her for emotional damage. I think somebody got in her ear after the incident and was like, yo, you know, you could just sue her. Right?

[Mall]

Of course. That's exactly what happened. Absolutely.

[Rory]

I think she wanted to get a video for her own fucking Instagram. I don't even think she was even thinking, I could sell this to tmz. She was probably just like, y', all, I just want to get a video of her.

[Damaris]

Yeah, no, I'm not talking about the video part, but I'm talking about once Cardi said, like, started cussing at her and shit like that. I think that's when I was like.

[Mall]

So she's saying, she's saying Cardi put hands on her.

[Damaris]

Yes, but The. The girl that's. That's testifying for Cardi, the lady who worked in the doctor's office. She said, I got in front of car. I got in front of Cardi and like, the girl was facing me and actually I got a scratch on my forehead. So I think the girl aman actually scratch me. So it's kind of like, no, she was being the aggressor and she said. She said Cardi's back was up against the wall. Like, Cardi wasn't even. Like, she had her back up against the wall.

[Mall]

So, yeah, throw this shit out, man. Get the fuck.

[Rory]

I'm a judge. I would just be sitting there like, all right, wait, so you followed.

[Mall]

Yeah, like, what is.

[Rory]

This would have never been a thing.

[Mall]

If you just fucking follow them. This is just wasting people's money. This is wasting people's money and time. Like, this is shit like this. This is the things that we need to stop going to court for. Like, this shit can be thrown out. Get out of here with this shit.

[Rory]

Like, oh, taxes pay on this too.

[Mall]

Yeah, like, this is just. It's just. It's a waste of money. Like, it's a circus. It's a show. Like, throw that out. Get that out of here. Let Cardi go on with her life and let that other girl go back to securing the McDonald's or wherever she was at. What was she at?

[Damaris]

She lost her job too. That's why she's. That's. That's another thing she's suing for because she lost her job. As you.

[Rory]

You should.

[Mall]

Yeah, like, people are crazy, man. But, yeah, so whatever.

[Rory]

But either way, way, go revisit that Justin Bieber deposition that said this is a film.

[Mall]

You said you think Justin Bieber still says the N word.

[Rory]

No, no, no, I don't think so.

[Damaris]

The answer is yes is funny as no.

[Rory]

I don't. I don't think so. And this is going to be terrible, cuz I'm not excusing his behavior as a child.

[Mall]

Let me hear why you.

[Rory]

I know he was a celebrity kid and the people around him him taught him that. He ain't. He ain't bright. That melody.

[Mall]

You want to know who he's around now, little flip yo.

[Damaris]

I'm sure him and Haley, he around.

[Mall]

More now than when he wrote that beautiful rendition of. He was 12 years old. He around real.

[Rory]

You know, his hand, whoever the was filming that was, sounded like a white lady laughing. Like they taught him that.

[Mall]

Yeah, but I'm just saying. Do you think he says the Word. I'm not saying. Is he laying down?

[Damaris]

Anyone says race, I think he probably be. I. Okay, let me be careful. I wear this. I wouldn't be surprised if he had said racist in his home, like we all do. But I don't think that.

[Mall]

No, no, no, no, no. I'm not saying he says racist. Does he use the N word?

[Damaris]

I don't think so. I don't think that Justin Bieber does that. I think Justin Bieber's been in the game too long.

[Rory]

I think once he started hanging with Usher, Puff, Lil Fizz and everybody, like, Like.

[Mall]

Like, if he's out, like, how the paparazzi was following him and he was like. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, is it not clocking to you that I'm standing on business? You don't think at some point, if the camera's on, he's like, yo, what the are you doing? Like, why are y' all following me? If y' all think Bieber didn't get that off y', all. He be around some hood, man.

[Rory]

But so do so many white people that don't. That's the reason I don't say it. It's not because I'm on a moral high ground. I was. I was around a bunch of hoodie Lord. And smack the out of me if.

[Mall]

I said, all right, but we know that he's. We saw the so song.

[Damaris]

Yeah, but he was a child. And I'm not excusing what he did.

[Mall]

He's an adult now. You use that word more as an adult than you do as a child.

[Damaris]

You know better as an adult than you do as a child.

[Mall]

Yeah, cool. So he's not laying down tunes to no more. He not playing the banjo. Getting off. But if you. I'm talking about in a regular setting in his crib with his homies, smoking, watching the game. You think that he don't be like, shoot the ball.

[Damaris]

Like, I don't. I don't. Don't.

[Mall]

Y' all tripping, man. All right, man.

[Rory]

This is what Daniel tried to do to me, and I won't stand for.

[Damaris]

The backlash of that video.

[Rory]

I will not stand for it.

[Mall]

Yeah. I'm saying he's not laying down vocals anymore.

[Damaris]

Yeah, but you think all white people say. You think Rory says it?

[Mall]

He definitely says it.

[Rory]

Where do I say the N word?

[Mall]

Home alone.

[Rory]

I just be in my house. You think I care that much about that word, that I just be in my house? I just have to say, you look.

[Mall]

Outside, make sure nobody's there. You check all the parameters. You go upstairs on your deck, you make sure nobody's looking, and then you go downstairs.

[Rory]

I care that much to say that word.

[Mall]

Then you go downstairs, you turn mob deep on and you get your ends off, nigga. Yeah, absolutely. Because we can't say that just to be whispered. Huh?

[Damaris]

You think Rory, whisper, whisper.

[Mall]

But white people can't wait to yell nigga. I think every white person has gone to the most secluded place in their neighborhood and yell nigga at least once in their life.

[Rory]

Rory just screaming into his pillow.

[Mall]

Rory screams it into his pillow. He goes into his closet and screams into his pillow every time.

[Rory]

What it is that satisfy? What am I doing?

[Mall]

Because I'm not white, so I don't know, but I know, I know it's an itch that y' all have to satisfy at some point because it's kind of like y' all just have to like, get it over. You don't want to call nobody the word, but you definitely say it because you heard in some of your favorite songs. You know what I'm saying? Like you. So you hear the word.

[Rory]

I just. I've been self editing. The only time I think I could be accused of. Of it, I guess would be reading sometimes not out loud because you guys know I can't do that.

[Mall]

But you're inside though, and you're inside. But I don't like, what is the inside voice sound like? What? Is it your voice or is it like another voice that says it? Cuz if it's your voice in your head that say it, you say it.

[Rory]

Does your voice in your head have a. A tone or a sound? It doesn't. It sounds like you're my inner. Wait, my voice is your inner.

[Mall]

No, that would be crazy. Your inner voice is your voice now.

[Rory]

Is your yours?

[Damaris]

No, no, mine is.

[Rory]

No, mine is not my. It's not anyone's voice.

[Mall]

How do you change your inner voice? It's your voice.

[Damaris]

No, it's not. My voice is different.

[Mall]

Whose voice is it?

[Damaris]

I don't know.

[Rory]

The person Voice says tone. Can we look at the definition of voice? Voice has tone. There's no tone in my head.

[Mall]

There is a tone in your head. It's always tone. You can hear the word hard. You can hear the word as you're reading it in your head.

[Rory]

But it's not. But it's not a tone. It's not a sound voice.

[Mall]

Whose voice is it? It's not John Leg, was it?

[Rory]

Everything's Morgan Freeman.

[Mall]

Yeah, like, whose voice would it be? Be voice. The sound producing a person's ly next and utter through the mouth as speech or song of particular.

[Rory]

Your inner thoughts have no voice or tone or anything. It's your inner voice is. Is more of a metaphor.

[Mall]

I think.

[Damaris]

Alone in the forest. Is it. Can you still hear it?

[Mall]

If a white person yells alone in the forest, do the trees hear it? Yes.

[Rory]

There's so much layers to that joke that I'm going to leave the alone.

[Damaris]

Yeah, yeah, but a racist white man would even think like that.

[Mall]

You see what I'm saying?

[Rory]

So you think he history buff.

[Mall]

He thinking about us from the trees. You don't think he says the word? He says it.

[Rory]

I'm saying that there was a lot of people that were not heard from when. When white people were screaming that word in the forest. That's all.

[Mall]

I, I think Bieber says it. I think he still uses that word.

[Rory]

Nah, cuz it was my man. What Little Fizz. When they used to blame all. All his. When Jesse would be on his. They blame it on Lil Fizz, right?

[Mall]

From B2K.

[Rory]

Lil Twist.

[Mall]

Little Twist like Little Fish from B2K. Like, what the fuck is going on?

[Rory]

Little Twist. So I've actually DM'd about. Because I've talked about. About that like early podcasting. He DM me and thanked me for that because I was like, yo, every time Justin Bieber do some, they just try to blame it on this young black kid for no reason. I do think Lil Twist got. Got Justin back to the proper place. Like, you can't. You can't move this way. You can't harm like your vocal exercises before you go on stage. You cannot, you know, harmonize the N word that way.

[Mall]

I think we see videos.

[Rory]

I think Twist got him back into.

[Mall]

We see videos of sold out shows with a bunch of white kids.

[Rory]

There's a fact.

[Mall]

And them songs that all these artists be up there saying the N word is all through all them songs.

[Rory]

The.

[Damaris]

The.

[Mall]

We don't hear silence during those parts.

[Rory]

Peace. Do you remember when we were at Made in America and 69 was the surprise guest dog.

[Mall]

This is what I'm saying. We have video.

[Rory]

100,000 white people scream the N word at that.

[Mall]

That's what I'm saying.

[Rory]

We were talking with Meryl too, when I went to the graduation. Not graduation, Late Registration Tour. Kanye at the Guard. Yo, y' all can say it. Everybody said it blew the roof off.

[Mall]

Blew the roof off.

[Rory]

Blew the roof off.

[Mall]

This is what I'm saying. Like so you think when Bieber is alone in his beautiful estate.

[Rory]

You could assume Patrick Ewing was in the garden at that time.

[Mall]

You don't think Bieber says that alone on his beautiful estate? He doesn't get that. Y' all are crazy, man.

[Rory]

As a white, I just don't think it's a. I. You hang around that many black people, you just don't say it.

[Mall]

You don't call them that, obviously.

[Rory]

But.

[Mall]

But if. If Mobb Deep comes on at Justin Bieber's house, you think he's self editing on.

[Rory]

Granted, I had white friends growing up that hung with just me and black people, and they would say, and black people wouldn't, like, care. It was a bunch of coke and weed dealers. Like, they. They didn't get. I just don't say it and never said it.

[Mall]

Yeah, I get it.

[Damaris]

I believe. I believe. Rory.

[Mall]

I don't, but it's okay. All right.

[Rory]

How do you think I've said it outside of screaming in my pillow or a mob? Like, give me the context of where I said the other.

[Mall]

Can we shake on something right now?

[Rory]

For sure. We look each other in the eye.

[Mall]

If I die before you die at my funeral, get up at the podium and say, this was my niggas, please. We sick on it. I'm not doing that. We sick on it. Hey, if I die before Rory, he's allowed to get up at the podium and say, damn, this was my nigga, man. Man, like. And nobody can't get mad. That's a fact. Wait, he got his first impass from me.

[Rory]

All right, can I remix it and quote Peyton Full instead? Like, cuz, you just died die day, B.

[Mall]

That's a fact. Get it off. Get it off.

[Damaris]

You are, man.

[Rory]

Why y' all crying?

[Mall]

Why y' all crying? Died every day. Yo, the way the pin gun drop, yo, that's gonna. That's the most lit funeral forever. If Rory get that off, he got the right to.

[Rory]

Yeah, I would ever do that.

[Mall]

At most, we shook on it. That's my wish.

[Damaris]

You can't say that and look big in his eye.

[Rory]

First of all, out of all the people that would be at that funeral, I think Biggs would laugh the hardest 100.

[Mall]

Be disappointed if you don't get it off. Get it off. Man, what the fuck is the problem? Jesus Christ.

[Rory]

I feel like in that somber moment, too, like walking into the church, Hop would pull me aside. Like, yo, you know. You know you made a promise, right?

[Mall]

Get it all. You got to, got to, got to get it all. I'm keep you out the noi what.

[Rory]

The noi if you think the noi thinks the nword is the problem with.

[Mall]

The word like what that is the last thing they thinking about that this.

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[Mall]

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[Mall]

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[Damaris]

I got a homegirl who I honestly think this is weird. I feel like every time I show any type of interest in a all of a sudden she is overly interested in this. The first time it happened I let it ride because I'm like, okay, you know what, maybe I missed my. Maybe he was actually trying to talk to her. Like whatever. Second time I like kind of said something like damn girl, like, you know, oh girl, we can both have him. Okay. Mind you, we both get niggas so it's never a fact of, you know, I'm like, okay, cool. Like it is what it is. If a nigga choosing, he choosing, I don't have a problem with that. But when I go out of my way to tell you like girl, like I'm on that with this nigga. You was not showing no interest. And now it would be one thing if he came up to you and he was trying to on you. You're going out of your way to fuck on niggas after I tell them not fuck them, but just saying, you know what I'm saying? Like you're showing you in the club doing the Fucking most. The third time this bitch is fucking at the party, bending her ass over in front of my nigga, doing all the fucking most, and I pull straight to the side like, bitch, are you trying to fuck my man? Like, what are you doing? Oh, no. Oh, no. Now this bitch is in his fucking DMs. Talk about, let's go get noodles together. What the fuck is going on? Should I slap the fuck out of this bitch or what right now?

[Rory]

Nah, we have to get her in the Zoom Zoom Room. What? Never mind.

[Damaris]

I already know the answer, but, yeah, should I beat her ass?

[Rory]

We have to get her on the Zoom Zoom Room.

[Mall]

She's hilarious, yo, first of all.

[Rory]

And I kind of want to get the home girl on the Zoom Zoom room, too.

[Mall]

Yeah, they might have to do a co zoom.

[Rory]

Yeah, but separate places, though. I don't want it to go to like.

[Mall]

Like the verses.

[Rory]

Yeah, well, first, it's not your friend. We'll start there. I mean, this is real, though. Mo. Don't act. You've been in the streets for a very long time.

[Mall]

I. Okay, so this is why we probably need her in the Zoom Zoom room. Because I want to know, because the friend said we could both him. Have they slept with a guy at the same time before? Have they had a threesome together before?

[Rory]

I think they were saying we could just both him separately. I don't think it was a threesome question.

[Mall]

We don't know.

[Rory]

Fair.

[Mall]

I want to get her in this Zoom Zoom room so we could have this conversation, because I want to know that she slept with guys that you dated before. Maybe she doesn't think that it's a problem because you never expressed that it was a problem. Right. Maybe she think, like, oh, it's cool. It's my home girl. She know how we get down. Like, we. We fuck these niggas. They for everybody, girl. You know? You know the colloquialisms that girls throw out there when they want to not be whores. Like, girl, these niggas for everybody body.

[Rory]

I know, but I do think it's actually worse with. With men because we feel like we have to say that and. But we be liking them. Like, come on. Nah, dogs, she for everybody. Like, but you like N. I like her.

[Mall]

Go home and cry.

[Rory]

Don't. Yeah, don't go scream. Scream the N word in the pillow. So I think that goes on both. Both sides, cuz. Women now in this day and age, I feel like, say that too. Like, oh, he's meant for everybody. Like, nah, you like him, though. So express. You have to express.

[Mall]

So that's what it's like.

[Rory]

She said at the club, she was like, why you doing that? That's my. That's my man's like, yeah, but again.

[Mall]

That'S what I'm saying. I think that the friend is looking at it like, girl, you know how we get down. Like we. We have fun with all these. I love that friend. We did this before that friend group. Yeah. So that's what I'm saying. Maybe it's getting to a point where you just don't want to share guys anymore. You don't want to have the same guys in common anymore. Did you tell your friend that? Because if you had that conversation with her and then she continues to do it. Oh, then you got rights to put hands on her and do whatever you want to do. But if you didn't and you just mad at the way she's moving with guys that you're dating, you gotta let her know that you don't. You're not trying to move like that no more.

[Rory]

But you're leaving out.

[Damaris]

Wrong answer forehead. She. No, she's wrong. Her friend is wrong. Her friend is wrong.

[Mall]

Why is she wrong if they say.

[Rory]

She wasn't even interested in the guy until I was Conclusion.

[Damaris]

That was. You just pulled some added information into nothing.

[Mall]

What did I add?

[Damaris]

We're going with the information that she said. And the information that she said is her exact words. Every time I like a nigga, my friend suddenly also likes the same nigga.

[Mall]

She also said that they fucked the.

[Rory]

Same before, but she was saying it wasn't like they.

[Mall]

They.

[Rory]

That they walked up at the club together and she said hi to him. And she said hi to him. She just started liking these guys because she's dealing with them.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Mall]

Y got the same taste.

[Rory]

Nah, she's saying she wasn't even. Wouldn't even be interested.

[Damaris]

Yeah, it's like, oh, the girl I used to talk to him or girl, he was in my DMs before. Like that type of. And also disrespectful, you know, like friends.

[Mall]

Her being in her. I guess. Like, this is the newest guy. Yeah. So now she's in her DMs.

[Damaris]

That's crazy.

[Mall]

That's wild.

[Damaris]

First of all, sliding in another. Sliding in a nigga. DM trying to entice him for a date. Crazy as fuck. Anyway, fuck the fact that it's my nigga. You enticing a n Asking him to go get noodles with you like any whom. What's wrong with that, and then on top of that, I'm trying to ask.

[Mall]

A guy on a date.

[Damaris]

And then, you know I'm talking to somebody. You know I'm talking to somebody, and you bending your ass over in his face. See, she not afraid of you. That's. See, and this the problem right here. He ain't afraid of you, and she ain't afraid of you.

[Rory]

Okay, but also, don't encourage her to beat her ass to make her afraid.

[Mall]

Why not?

[Rory]

Because we're gonna end up like Cardi with a deposition. Because we encourage some violence.

[Damaris]

This is an entertainment podcast. Everything we say is for entertainment purposes only.

[Mall]

And everybody whooping, everybody beat her ass.

[Rory]

Yeah, yeah.

[Damaris]

That's what I'm like. We won't. Like. My friends would never. My friends would never do no like that. They know I don't play about my. If I really like a. I. I will kill you. Like, don't they know that. My friends know that. Me. My best friends know that.

[Rory]

Have you ever had an ex friend do that before, though?

[Damaris]

I have had people in my life. Life who. The moment a guy liked me, suddenly, oh, I used to talk to him, or he was in my DMs or. I've had that happen before. I've had that before. But now to go as far as to continue to pursue him once I have put a stamp on him. No, I've. I have not been tried as such.

[Rory]

Okay.

[Damaris]

I've been asked like, yo, like the marriage.

[Mall]

I know.

[Damaris]

Used to talk to him like, you like him, cuz. My friends know the one. The Untouchables. You know the Untouchables, but the Touchables, touch them niggas, I don't give a fuck.

[Rory]

I've always put money bags under all my untouchable Untouchables.

[Mall]

Just because all yours is untouchable, though. Like, you can't put the untouched. You can't put the franchise tag on every player. Some of these hoes gotta get traded.

[Rory]

I got a lot of max contracts.

[Mall]

Yeah, but some of these hoes gotta get traded sometimes. Like, you know what I'm saying? She ain't doing what she's supposed to be doing for the team no more. Send over here, we got a jersey for.

[Rory]

Nah, I retired that number, though.

[Mall]

For your franchise. Yeah, that number's still available.

[Rory]

I started this league called the Big Three, where retired players can keep playing.

[Mall]

Oh, man, I would love to get this young lady in the Zoom Zoom Room so we could further talk through this and kind of like, you know, get more of the backstory but yeah.

[Damaris]

That ain't your friend. That. That isn't your friend. And honestly, you need to watch out for her because she'll ruin some shit with you and a nigga. Cause don't fuck around and cheat and think that you gonna keep that a secret. Or don't fuck around and be. Be flirting with another nigga and thinking.

[Mall]

She a dirty Mac.

[Damaris]

She gonna run that she gonna dirty ma Mac quickly.

[Mall]

I like women at dirty Mac, though.

[Damaris]

That's nasty.

[Mall]

I like that.

[Damaris]

No, you can't trust that.

[Rory]

I was.

[Mall]

Well, yeah, no, you can, but I like it.

[Rory]

I was such like, a young, naive pup back in the day of when her friend would start talking to me, I would think it was a setup. And then, like, I later just realized, like, oh, no, these are just horrors.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Like, oh, they're not actually friends. This is.

[Mall]

Yeah, they don't like each other.

[Rory]

But I used to, like, really, like, all right, this is a setup. Let me.

[Mall]

Like, when they be like, twin, twin, twin.

[Rory]

Like, no, you just.

[Mall]

Y' all don't like each other. Each other.

[Rory]

And maybe that's like self deprecation or insecure. I was like, all right, both. These don't want to me. I think one's trying to set me up to see if I. What I would do in this situation, and I overthought it. No, she just wanted to do.

[Damaris]

That's so terrible. Like, that. I'm so happy for the circle that I have. That's so terrible.

[Rory]

I should. I've told you guys, I was never that guy. I used to get mad at my friends when it would just be a. A chick. I was just. Just sort of. And they would hit on her.

[Mall]

They.

[Rory]

She'd come to me like, yo, why you think it's okay that your friends could try to, you know, DM me or come at me? And I would talk to them, like, no, I love my host. Like, I'm not. I'm not that guy. I want to make. I'm. Everyone's not for the team. Like, I've never been that person. I really like, really like the people I have sex with. I don't. I'm not passing goes around. I'm just. I'm just not that guy. I know it makes me less of a man. I just. I've never been that.

[Mall]

It makes me less of a man. Yeah, you're not a man.

[Rory]

Come on. We like her. Like, I know I like her, but don't lay.

[Damaris]

It's okay to like women. It's okay. What they want you to like. It's okay to like women.

[Mall]

No, it's okay to like women, but you're not a man until the woman that you like, you see her getting pounded out by another guy. You got to stand in. Deal with that.

[Damaris]

Oh, my God.

[Rory]

But I've never. I would never run a train.

[Mall]

No, I'm not saying you got to run a trip. I'm just saying, like, not, like, real, really. But you just find out that she's fucking other men, you got to stand in.

[Rory]

Oh, no, that's separate. I think it's more just the. The frame if I'm Deal. Like. Yeah, because then that, like, makes you look kind of crazy, too, because even I don't think every girl that has sex with me is a whore. That means that should just be passed to the team.

[Mall]

Oh, yeah. Yeah.

[Rory]

And it makes you look nuts when you weren't even the one saying that. Now it looks like you told all your friends. Friends, like, yo, if y' all want. Y' all was crazy. If y' all want it, y' all should get at her.

[Mall]

I'm just.

[Rory]

It puts you in a really weird place. And I've had, like, real arguments. My friends that have. And this is when our 20s, when we were immature and.

[Mall]

Yeah, yeah.

[Rory]

Like, yo, you love these hoes, though. It's some girl from the road. Like, I was like, no, it's not that. Like, it's just disrespectful to me.

[Mall]

Like, I'm just. I don't know. My thing is if I think that as men. As men, we all know the women that we can do that with. Like, my boy. My boy wouldn't have to say nothing. Like, like, yo, I like her. Like, chill. Like, I would never even attempt to talk to a girl my friend was talking to if I knew she wasn't that type of girl.

[Rory]

Fair. And I'm not mad at that point at all. But I also have the other mentality of if I saw my friend on the road with a chick, nowhere in my head do I go, I need that too.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Mall]

Nah, nah. Yeah.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mall]

Even if.

[Rory]

Even if I know that girl is that type of girl, and we could all hit it. I. I'm just. I'm not into that.

[Mall]

Yeah. I was never a fan of that. Like, nah.

[Rory]

So it's. It's both sides of that coin where I'm like, first of all, don't do that. Because now I got this girl asking me why my friends are saying sexual things to her. Because now it looks like I said it was okay. And number two, why are you even trying to girl? Like, that's gross to me.

[Damaris]

Because you put the stamp you that. I'm not putting the stamp on a.

[Rory]

She that now, that's never been me.

[Damaris]

What's up?

[Rory]

I appreciate, like, I appreciate that. I didn't. It was a.

[Mall]

The whole Was a posted dig is crazy, man. I just be thinking about that guys be doing like, yo, dudes is crazy, man.

[Damaris]

Women be like that, too. Like, women like I. Man, my group chat says some be like, yo, I ain't going to lie. You got to try this. Y' all is wild.

[Mall]

Like, but why you don't never bring them to the office, though? Like, the ones that be like, they.

[Damaris]

Don'T want to try you.

[Rory]

Yeah, cuz I was saying with you, like, yeah, if you bring them, that's different. I don't want mall's sloppy seconds. But, like, whatever you want to bring.

[Damaris]

You enough of my friends. You don't.

[Rory]

I have not one of your friends in my life.

[Damaris]

No, you be people, then they become my friends.

[Rory]

Yeah, see?

[Mall]

So you. You the friend in this situation. Like, how are you friend? You befriending women that Rory slept with after he slept.

[Rory]

She tried to him after.

[Damaris]

Yeah, stop. Stop that.

[Mall]

Nah, you be trying to lick cat. Don't do that. There's been at least.

[Rory]

There's been at least four.

[Damaris]

Four is so.

[Rory]

All right, fine. Seven.

[Mall]

All right, baby D, look me in my face and tell me you ain't never, ever been sexually attracted to no woman that Rory slept with. Exactly. Close your eyes. Close your eyes and say your prayers.

[Damaris]

That's not fair because she look like.

[Rory]

One of Mara poops.

[Damaris]

The same type, so.

[Mall]

Exactly. And you befriended. You befriended the type.

[Damaris]

But I. I don't befriend the ones I want to. We just stay.

[Mall]

We not doing that.

[Rory]

He like, cool, cool.

[Mall]

You done had some.

[Damaris]

I looked at once or twice.

[Mall]

Yeah, that's all.

[Damaris]

You just too secretive with your all.

[Mall]

I'm not secretive at all. If you ask me, I'll tell you. I ain't going to offer the information. But if you like more, you're like, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's my friend.

[Rory]

Yeah, man, my old work just asked Ameris, are you complimenting me as a friend or as a lesbian?

[Mall]

And what the mar said? Lesbian. Okay, see, no, she said lesbian.

[Damaris]

Cut that out.

[Mall]

Lesbian.

[Rory]

She don't watch this podcast.

[Damaris]

That's not what was.

[Rory]

Especially at this hour in the pod.

[Mall]

The clock stopped. You think.

[Rory]

You think she stays for voicemails?

[Damaris]

Like, I just don't want that misconstrued. That's not. But yeah.

[Mall]

Yo, what's her name?

[Rory]

Damar's been posting. I told y' all before I I went on a whole IG search for some of Damaris friend. Damaris has never passed a friend of me her life which to me is crazy. But because my friends don't wouldn't like me. They'd like more.

[Damaris]

I like go to my like, y'.

[Mall]

All know, like, I be seeing the friends. I'll be seeing the her friends date and then like, for her to sit in and say they wouldn't me is crazy.

[Rory]

I think out of the two of us, her friends would. You're more their type, I think.

[Damaris]

No.

[Rory]

Oh, really? Tell that one with all followers. Let me know.

[Damaris]

First of all, mall is a terrible. Why would they. M is horrible. M comes out of podcast and talked about how horrible he is.

[Mall]

I'm a terrible person.

[Rory]

Yeah. What do you mean by that?

[Damaris]

Mall how you're. First of all, y' all both misogynistic. So I'm not just gonna put that on. That's like.

[Rory]

First of all, it's a lie.

[Mall]

Misogynistic.

[Rory]

I love.

[Mall]

I just don't think that women should be Uber drivers. There's plenty of other, like, opportunities for work out here.

[Damaris]

Like what?

[Mall]

Whatever. Whatever your heart desires. Just don't pick me up when I call.

[Damaris]

See, I was talking. I was talking to Josh.

[Rory]

You're misogynistic.

[Damaris]

I was talking to Josh earlier. Right? And when. I guess when y' all did the Patreon episode that hasn't come out yet, and y' all were trying to say y' all la. You laughed at me being liberal. Josh said if I was liberal. You laughed at me being liberal.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Rory]

You're not.

[Damaris]

And you know what I was thinking about? Because I told Josh, I was like, yeah, feminism be a little funny sometimes. I was joking. But they say that women can do all the men. All the jobs that men can do. But, like, why are y' all doing our jobs? Because I feel like sitting up here talking for a living is a woman's job. Like, why is podcasting oversaturated? That should be a woman's field. Why are y' all taking our jobs?

[Mall]

Malcolm X spoke for living. Was that a woman's job?

[Damaris]

He was out here in the streets.

[Mall]

It's a ladybug. That's good luck. You about to kill it.

[Damaris]

That's a ladybug.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Can't kill a ladybug.

[Damaris]

Oh, sorry. I didn't know what it Was Big Ass Mosquito. But like, no, he was like, you know what I'm saying? I'm out here moving and grooving in the streets and moving y' all towards like violence. Like you need out here talking about pop culture.

[Rory]

Oh, you let the white man plague your mind. And who Malcolm X was. See, I don't like that.

[Mall]

That's. First of all, that's Detroit Red. You know what he was doing before that?

[Rory]

He was reformed though.

[Damaris]

Being a man. He was being a man.

[Rory]

Pimping is a real man.

[Mall]

Yeah, yeah. So why would I try to pimp holes? You told me I'm a terrible person.

[Rory]

He's basically Malcolm X and he's from Malcolm X. Malcolm X. He's definitely Malcolm X.

[Mall]

Can't spell Malcolm without mall.

[Rory]

So like.

[Mall]

Yeah, so how am I. Back to how I'm a terrible person? Okay, how am I a terrible person since you saying I'm a terrible. What makes me terrible?

[Damaris]

One time we sat. This is. This is in the beginning of our relationship. We sat here. I was. We weren't here. We were in our original office and I said, ma, when do you think you gonna settle down? And Ma was like, I would, but like, my bitches gotta be okay with me having other bitches. And they just don't be with that. Do you remember that conversation?

[Rory]

Yeah, but that was like 15 years ago. So he's a different person.

[Mall]

So. So. But how does that make me a terrible person? I'm not like leading women into a relationship, having them thinking that they're the only. Only one.

[Rory]

It's a good point.

[Damaris]

Okay, so you know what? You're not a terrible person. Just what you are searching for in your love life is not the same things that my friends are exactly searching for.

[Mall]

But I'm not.

[Rory]

But that's what they be saying in the group chat. Yeah, that may not be what they really.

[Mall]

You gotta try this.

[Damaris]

Yeah, but that's for the hoes. We ain't gonna take you serious.

[Rory]

We could be hoes too.

[Mall]

And you ain't gotta take me seriously. Who said I want to be taken seriously?

[Rory]

Try me and don't take me serious.

[Damaris]

You don't trick. You wanna.

[Rory]

You wanna like.

[Damaris]

You want not relationship, but you also don't trick.

[Mall]

But I don't trick. Cuz I don't like prostitutes. I don't like extre.

[Damaris]

But you don't gotta.

[Mall]

I can't be a trick and you can't be a hoe that don't go together.

[Damaris]

That's. I feel okay.

[Rory]

You think she's trying to get her out.

[Mall]

You can't say is tricks and you ain't a hoe.

[Damaris]

No, don't do that. Cause I don't try to put you on with fine. And what you said. I was like, yo, she gonna want you to spend money. You like, I ain't doing that. I'm like, ah, she ain't you.

[Mall]

You said she don't want me to spend money.

[Damaris]

I said she gonna want you to spend money. And you was like, I ain't doing that.

[Mall]

Yeah, I'm not paying for. Is like water.

[Rory]

When you've had 20 years of free, you're not going to just start tr.

[Damaris]

Okay.

[Mall]

Is something I just don't understand. I'm not a trick. Now, if that's your lifestyle, then I respect that. If you a ho, if you selling, I respect that. But don't sit here and say you ain't selling and get mad when I ain't spending money.

[Damaris]

But you can spend money without giving money directly. You can spend money without.

[Mall]

You going to have a great time. We going to have a great time together for sure. Sure. That. Yeah, we going. We going to have a ball. But I ain't just yo buy me this, send me money. Forget the who you talking to?

[Damaris]

You don't even say you don't sell hair and nails money for a girl you going on a date with.

[Mall]

For sure. That's light. That's. That's nothing. I'm. You know what I'm talking about.

[Damaris]

Okay, exactly. But that's. But that's what I'm saying. If you're willing to start.

[Mall]

Hair and nails ain't $5,000.

[Rory]

Yo, chick ask.

[Damaris]

Are we buying the hair?

[Mall]

Hair and nails ain't 10,000.

[Damaris]

Are we buying the cuz.

[Mall]

Kendra, hair nails don't cost. It's not a real Rolex. Hair and nails ain't a. A Chanel bag. Her nails ain't mortgage in the car. Note.

[Rory]

Like and hair and nails grows out your body naturally.

[Mall]

Yeah. Like if. If you. If I'm dating a girl, absolutely, she can have. But you. You know when. You know the type of women I'm talking about when they lead with that type of.

[Damaris]

But that's what I'm they. If I'm the first date. If I'm the first date, like, I'm coming to meet you and you don't want to pay for the hair. No, we don't pay for. Let's just say nails and feet. I'm coming to meet you. You nails. Here, here. Go. $300 for nails. And feet.

[Mall]

You willing to do that if I say, yo, what's up? Let's go to dinner? You be like, yo, I ain't going to lie. My head, my nails ain't done. If that's what's stopping us from when. When what. What day you want to go.

[Damaris]

Ah, that's. See, all right. Now that I know that about you, I get some.

[Mall]

I got some holes for you. Yeah, but that's not tricking. Yeah, like, that's not. To me, that's not tricking.

[Damaris]

Well, to. Well, what? I. I don't. I believe at that point, paying for.

[Rory]

The date would be tricking.

[Damaris]

Yeah, I believe that as well, but I didn't know to do that.

[Mall]

How.

[Damaris]

How you felt about, you know, the.

[Mall]

Women I'm talking about when they be like, yo, my boof rent dude. Well, your boof rent, dude. What that gotta do with me? Like, what that gotta do with me?

[Rory]

Yeah, don't. Don't start your text with your own really depressing things.

[Damaris]

I'll be like, my podcast mic is starting to get. Get a short in it.

[Mall]

Please don't tell nobody that. Don't have nobody thinking that you need money to get a podcast mic on this platform. Please don't have no thinking that. Please don't, please. That's not. That's never happened.

[Rory]

I mean, listen, those things, if you get it off, get your money n.

[Mall]

Cuz then the gonna be outside this door talking about, yo, I want my mic back after he break. After he break up with her. Now I gotta go out there and punch that in his face. Like, now. Now, me and Cardi got the same lawyer, like, you see what I'm saying? Like, nah, man. Nah, nah, nah. Don't tell them that.

[Rory]

Before we wrap up. Mo, you remember that girl that I halfway introduced you to? To after the JLX show at Sony hall, we went to the hookah spot. Yeah. There was that girl. Bad.

[Mall]

Bad, yes.

[Rory]

What did she ask you for? Because she definitely came back and was like. And mind you, I didn't know that girl was like, on that type of time.

[Mall]

Yeah, yeah. She was selling it.

[Rory]

I wouldn't know. Yeah, I had met her that day too.

[Damaris]

What was the price?

[Rory]

But she came back to me, was like, like. Because I asked her, like, in passing, the next time I saw her, like, yo, what's up with you? And more like, I was hitting it off at the hookah spot.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Rory]

And he's like, he don't want to spend no money. And I was like, yeah, it checks out.

[Mall]

Yeah, yeah. She asked me something, she said something crazy. And I just think I never responded. It's like, like our first week like ever even meeting each other and we just texting conversation. She said something about some money. So I was like, well, I read that shit. I said, yo, everybody. And I'm not mad if that's what you doing. I'm not mad, bro, but I'm how you live. Yeah, but it's just like, yo, come on.

[Damaris]

I can't. I really. Listen, as somebody who's out here dating, who has been in the dating world, I understand why women sell. I'm not built for it. I don't got the stomach for it. No, it ain't even just about being lazy.

[Mall]

Women don't want to work.

[Damaris]

I know women that job with jobs that still sell, cuz they.

[Mall]

And guess what? If they start selling enough, guess what? They quitting the job. Exactly my point.

[Damaris]

But my thing is, is like when you out here dating men, and this is not me saying because I hate men, but out being out here dating men, you really do be like, I need to be compensated for this. This is a lot. Like, it really is. So I understand why some, why some women sell it.

[Rory]

Wait, a lot? But are y' all a lot? Like, should I invoice you too?

[Mall]

Yeah, they. They don't never. They don't never talk about that.

[Damaris]

You, you really think that it's. It's easier to date women?

[Rory]

I mean, you really think it's easier.

[Damaris]

To date men than it is to date women?

[Rory]

I don't know.

[Mall]

I don't know. I've never dated.

[Rory]

You've dated both genders. I'm sorry. And let me tell you more than it's easier.

[Damaris]

It's easier to date women. It really.

[Mall]

Yeah, but the dating pool, like the women, the options is just like.

[Damaris]

No, it's way more. It's literally scientific fact that it's way more options for y' all than there is for women.

[Mall]

I gotta ask Mariah. She's a scientist. She gonna have.

[Rory]

That's what she studied at.

[Mall]

Yeah, we gotta ask who Mariah with.

[Rory]

What that mean?

[Damaris]

None. I said, look who Mariah with.

[Rory]

With a. I mean a. A legend. We're talk. Exactly, exactly.

[Damaris]

That's what I'm saying.

[Mall]

Alleged.

[Rory]

One of the greatest melody writers of our generation.

[Mall]

Oh my God, Rory, you're a idiot, man. Shut up, dog. Shut the up.

[Rory]

I gotta put more respect on Yachty's name, man.

[Mall]

Why?

[Rory]

I don't know if that was true of, of one of them only fans, chicks like Leaked a bunch of text messages on Lil Baby when he was being a big, big trick. I don't want to put it on him because I don't know if it was real or fake.

[Mall]

Okay. Yeah, I think.

[Rory]

But why every. Every single girl that all these new rappers want a wife, all of them be like, yeah, I. Yachty. I'd be feeling bad for Yachty. It's like, why someone's.

[Damaris]

The best songs of what are about Yachty.

[Mall]

Oh, she dated Yachty.

[Rory]

She dated Yada. Yeah, Yachty. I wouldn't say discovered her per se, but yeah, when she was. It was like a relationship. It was like for real.

[Mall]

Okay.

[Damaris]

He like, you know, they. They've talked about it in interviews. I remember one time he didn't know she was like a musician and. Or she would say she was and he wouldn't really take her serious, but she wrote him like a mixtape and he just was like, yeah, I never. I'm not listening to that because I don't want to hurt your feelings. When they were in, like, college.

[Rory]

Yeah, it was like they were super young.

[Mall]

Oh, okay.

[Damaris]

They were like in a relationship. Relationship. Yeah.

[Rory]

Yo, that motherfucker Lil Baby.

[Mall]

I don't.

[Rory]

Again, I don't know if those were. They could be fake text messages, but he was like, man, add. Add boat to the chat right now. I don't care.

[Mall]

Oh, my God. Yeah, but. But you know why? Because for them, that's. They. They're in a whole different lifestyle. Like, that is like, they understand what it is. Like. Yeah. I know every girl.

[Rory]

I mean every girl has a past. It's not. That was just funny that every time some gets leaked that girl Yachty, I just. I'd be feeling bad for him. Yeah, that's crazy, because he be minding his business. And now every time there's some scandal, some IG chick, some only fans model, all of a sudden my name gets brought into this. Every time.

[Mall]

Yeah. I mean, I'm not mad at women for, you know, approaching men. No, approaching men about money and being paid because that's what a lot of men lead with. They lead with money.

[Rory]

And like, she didn't realize, though, when she leaked all those text messages how crazy she looked. She. She seemed like a real solid girl in the beginning of the conversation. She was like, yo, out of respect, like, I. With Yachty, like, this would be weird. Like, I just can't. I'm not that type of girl. That's your man's like, I. I'm weird of that. And little Baby was like, man, I'm about to just pull up to your crib. And she's like, please don't do that. This is. This is not going to work out. And then halfway through the convo, she goes, well, if you bought me my dream car, then you could have me forever. And baby was like, I bet with pink Porsche got the down payment today. Like, how she was the most respectable chick. Like, yo, I can't. Like, she's like, yo, you a good person. We could be friends.

[Mall]

That's why. That's why I can't be mad at these girls. Cause these be the type of conversations that they be having in their DMs. So then when here, here I come, it's like, oh, but, but again, once you tell me that that's what you about. No, I respect it. It's just not my lifestyle. I don't do that.

[Rory]

You can have me forever for a car.

[Damaris]

Yeah, but he not gonna have her forever. And you know that. He didn't mean it.

[Rory]

No, he was on that whole shit. Yo, add Yachty to the chat. I've already talked to Yachty about you. You're my dream girl, I want to marry you type. Again, this could all be fake. I want to put this.

[Damaris]

Oh, you're my dream girl. Okay, you can have me forever.

[Mall]

That's called gas. He's just gassing it. Once she come through and he hit, he'll be like, yo, I feel like I've been playing. Talk to my accountant. He gonna send the wife. You know that. Yo, let me holler my account.

[Damaris]

I would need the pink slip before you get the pink lip.

[Rory]

I've been playing with a handicap, man. I. I need to just lie more.

[Mall]

Why?

[Rory]

Just tell the. I need to. I've never sold girls dreams.

[Mall]

Telling the truth is much more fun than lying. Way more fun.

[Rory]

Baby said, yo, just pick the pink. The pink Porsche. Bet. See, the whole conversation shift. She went from the most stand up girl I'd ever read of a leaked text message from to that. Just gotta sell the dream.

[Damaris]

Hey, man.

[Mall]

All right, man. Well, let me get out of here. My allergies kicking my ass.

[Rory]

If I had baby money though, I'd probably buy a girl person.

[Mall]

Of course you would.

[Rory]

Oh, please, I don't like that. See, I don't like that tone. I know he's trying to get out of here, but I don't like that song. I'm not a trick middle class person.

[Damaris]

You spend a little money, but you ain't really no trick. You could trick more. I encourage both of Y' all to trick more.

[Mall]

I. I'm not a trick. I don't buy. I'm not. I'm not into escorts and prostitutes. That's just not who I am. I don't know.

[Damaris]

Okay?

[Mall]

Never been.

[Rory]

And to me, if you don't claim you're a prostitute, but you say, say, I don't want to with you, but if you buy my dream car, I'll with you. You're a prostitute.

[Mall]

They try to break it down and make it seem any prostitute. Anything to less. Anything to lessen the blow of being prostitute.

[Damaris]

I see the value in this sit. I. You know, I feel like I see the value because then I know you really love me. Like, oh, damn. Like, he really is interested.

[Rory]

He literally said, yo, put Yachty in the chat. I'm showing you that I don't care about your past. That's my man's. But you are my dream girl. I love you. I vibe with you. And she said, no. And then all of a sudden was like, yo, you give me a car, though, and you could have anything you want. But maybe that is a prostitute.

[Damaris]

Maybe her love language is gifts.

[Mall]

They all speak gifts, don't they?

[Rory]

Every chick speak gift.

[Mall]

Y' all speak gifts. Boy, y' all learn that language so fast. Well, yeah. What school y' all study that at?

[Rory]

St. John.

[Mall]

All right, man. We talk to y' all soon. Be safe, be blessed. I'm that. He's just Ginger. Peace. No worry.

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