Episode 405 | NRM Youngboys

Summary

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New Rory & MAL

Episode 405 | NRM Youngboys – September 12, 2025
Host: iHeartPodcasts and The Volume
Featuring: Rory, Mal, Josh, Damaris, Peach

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Episode Overview

This episode brings classic New Rory & MAL energy: heartfelt cultural reflection, rapid-fire pop commentary, and the signature blend of irreverence and insight. The crew talks about 9/11 remembrance, UFOs and masculinity, the culture of big boxing matches, a hilarious search for fight party guests, the current state of hip-hop rollouts (including Drake’s Iceman series and NBA YoungBoy’s unstoppable rise), the nuances of cancel culture around legends like Ice Cube, and the eternal debate of artists' legacies and cross-medium brilliance. Listeners also get a pulse-check on upcoming Cardi B (and Ice Cube!) music, and a candid voicemail about Conor McGregor’s wild presidential run in Ireland.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

9/11: Remembering, Reflecting, and New Normals

• Remembrance & Personal Reflection:
  • Mal shares poignant visits to firehouses on the anniversary:

    “Never forget, I stopped by two firehouses today. The one around the corner, and the one in Hell's Kitchen... a lot of the firefighters that did pass on 9/11... they open their doors so everyone could pay respects." (03:37)

  • Rory and Mal discuss how life after 9/11 established a “new normal” of chaos and insensitivity (05:13).
• Changing Sensitivities:
  • Commentary about desensitization in society:

    Rory: "They released a video of us shooting a missile at a UFO... and nobody is even talking about it." (05:27)

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UFOs, Masculinity, & The Lost Art of Doing Stuff

• Masculinity & Pop Culture:
  • The guys riff off “Independence Day” and juxtapose how everyday men used to have “a trade” and now, humorously, wouldn’t know how to fly a plane in a crisis.

    Mall: “I don't even have the knowledge of how to fly one of the Wright brothers' planes…” (07:07)

• AI Conspiracy:
  • Mal introduces a wild theory: “Are you under the impression that AI is actually an alien from Saturn?... it is a being.” (08:56)

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The State of Boxing: Canelo vs. Crawford and Fight Party Culture

• Fight Anticipation & Analysis:
  • Huge anticipation for Canelo vs. Crawford; debate on whether it's the “biggest fight in 20 years” (09:35-10:30).

    Rory: "This is on that same course of one of the most legendary boxing fights that we will ever see." (10:15) Mall: "I'm going Canelo. As much as I do love my ginger brother, I think he's going to win." (15:08)

  • Discussion on the future of the sport against the backdrop of influencer bouts and legends fighting far past their prime (“Mayweather vs. Tyson,” Jake Paul, etc. 16:05–18:04)
• Fight Parties: Social Rituals & Food Struggles:
  • Comedic planning of a fight party.

    “Fight party to me, is 10 people. Not a club. Because at that point, you could just go outside.” (14:02)

  • Arguments over whether women attend these parties for the boxing or the “vibes”:

    Mall: “I can provide a venue... cable... buy the food. I can't provide the other libations, the ones people care most about.” (13:14)

• DIY Pizza Tangent:
  • Laughs about making pizza from pre-made dough, with Mall admitting he often messes it up – relatable, lighthearted tangent. (12:00–12:35)

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Hip-Hop Rollouts: Drake’s “Iceman” Series & Producer Gossip

• Dissecting Iceman Episode 3:
  • General disappointment with the latest Drake “Iceman” installment.

    Mall: "I thought the songs that he previewed were underwhelming… I'm getting a little tired of just, like, all the Easter egg stuff… It's just getting, like, exhausting." (35:16) Rory: "This could be his Wire Season 2." (38:54)

  • Debate about rollout fatigue, expectations around content, and “the art” of withholding versus overexposure.
• Producer Dynamics – 40 vs. Boi-1da:
  • The segment pivots to rumors (from Stat Quo) that Drake’s longtime producers 40 and Boi-1da don’t get along.

    Rory: “I don’t know if anybody could hate 40... maybe just competitive.” (43:21)
    Mall: “Drake is two people: it’s Drake and 40. I’ve always felt that way.” (44:07)

• Toronto Men Stereotypes:
  • Mall stirs with observations about Toronto men being “more emotional” over women, sparking spirited debate.

    Mall: "Toronto men love, love their hoes. Sometimes somebody feels away." (47:07)
    Rory: "That's ego pie right there. That's not a Toronto thing, that's a man thing." (48:10)

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NBA YoungBoy: The New Arena King

• Insane Live Energy & Cultural Divide:
  • The crew marvels at NBA YoungBoy’s crowds, noting generational gaps and fan devotion:

    Rory: “Seeing NBA YoungBoy shows is definitely like confirmation that I’m just old. I don’t know one NBA YoungBoy song.” (53:55)

  • Comparison to classic acts:

    Josh: “That sounds fire to me... I want to feel that ‘bitch, I’m a boss’ feeling again!” (58:23)

• Show Experience Anxiety:
  • They riff (hilariously) on being too old or out of place at a YoungBoy concert:

    Mall: “You gotta punch somebody in their face for entrance. It’s like a jello shot.” (62:21) Rory: “If I go... I don’t even know these songs like that… I gotta know the music.” (59:34)

• Dangers at Shows:
  • Discussion about the most dangerous concerts they've attended—Irving Plaza, Hot 97’s “Who's Next” New Jersey show, wild DJ sets—highlighting moments when things nearly went left. (68:15–73:07)

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Fashion Week, Modeling, and Brand Loyalty

• Fashion Week FOMO:
  • The crew jokes about being too “washed” to get invited, and whether they’d walk the runway for popular brands or their own merch.

    Josh: “Would you rip...”
    Rory: “Don't do that. I'm telling you, I would never walk the runway... If Jerry asks [Fear of God], only because I fuck with Jerry.” (22:26–22:43)

• Ame Brand “Love Bombing”:
  • Mall describes his rocky-yet-fond relationship with the brand Ame, making a hilarious analogy to dating:

    “I love Ame, but I think I'm in an abusive relationship with them. Every time I start to feel like I'm getting into the place... this is a whole new brand... I get a friends and family discount anytime I'm about to leave… love bomb every single time.” (24:42–25:30)

• Reflections on Not Taking Modeling Gigs:
  • Mall confesses regret for passing on Kanye’s iconic fashion show extras call back in 2016:

    "I would have said yes to that, now, in retrospect." (28:21)

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Legendary Artists, Legacy, and Cancel Culture

• The Ice Cube & Jamie Foxx Comparison:
  • In-depth praise for Ice Cube’s multi-hyphenate creative role:

    Mall: “I don’t think it’s crazy to say that Cube is not close to that [Jamie Foxx] status as well of every box that he’s checked when it comes to creativity...” (92:13) Josh: “He tends to kind of, I don’t want to say play the same role, but… because Ice Cube has that angry ass face… He’s hilarious naturally, but the character... tends to be a typecast angry, more serious character.” (96:02)

• Cancel Culture & Political Activism:
  • The crew critique’s culture’s tendency to “cancel” based on shallow knowledge, referencing reactions to Ice Cube’s perceived political moves:

    Mall: “When people tried to [cancel Cube]… That lets you know they don't know Ice Cube. They just got introduced to him a few years ago.” (88:33) Josh: “It's just everything is so black and white or red and blue, and people don't know what the fuck they're talking about.” (89:22)

• Highlighting Forgotten Legacies:
  • Emphasizes how younger listeners miss the full scope of Cube or LL's impact as Hollywood erases music feats. (87:40–88:19)

    Mall: “Everyone younger than me, the first record they probably heard from Ice Cube was 'I Could Do It Put Your Back Into It.' Like, that's… nuts.” (87:21)

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Anticipation, Empathy, and Anxiety over Cardi B’s Album

• Mixed Feelings About Cardi B’s Next Project:
  • Josh expresses “conflicted” feelings reviewing music as a “job,” while Mall shares nervous but empathetic support for Cardi given the stakes.

    Mall: “No matter what, Cardi will always be a superstar. She has her legacy. But this is a big fucking crossroads. I want this [album] to work so well for her because this is a crossroads.” (81:44) Rory: “Either way, Cardi will be fine… but it's the biggest moment for her.” (83:39)

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Listener Voicemails: Conor McGregor for Irish President?

• Wild Possibility:
  • A listener asks if Conor McGregor could become Ireland’s president.

    Mall: “All he's been saying is I'm running for president. He hasn't given us a stance. I don't know his policy between Northern Ireland… The only things I've seen is I'm running for president and Azalea Banks, here's my dick." (98:12)

• Politics for Clout:
  • The show riffs on celebrity politicians from Trump to Schwarzenegger, and the real lack of political experience.

    Josh: "Does that mean I should run?" (97:19)

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Notable Quotes & Moments with Timestamps

• On 9/11 Remembrance:

  “Never forget, I stopped by two firehouses today. One around the corner, and the one in Hell’s Kitchen… they open their doors so everyone could pay respects.” – Mall (03:37)

• On UFOs & Masclinity:

  "They released a video of us shooting a missile at a UFO... and nobody is even talking about it." – Rory (05:27)

• On Fight Parties:

  "Fight party to me, is 10 people. Not a club. Because at that point, you could just go outside." – Mall (14:02)

• On Toronto Men & Emotionality:

  "Toronto men love, love their hoes. Sometimes somebody feels away." – Mall (47:07)
  "That's ego pie right there. That's not a Toronto thing, that's a man thing." – Rory (48:10)

• On Gen Z Hip-Hop Gaps:

  "Seeing NBA YoungBoy shows is definitely like confirmation that I’m just old. I don’t know one NBA YoungBoy song." – Rory (53:55)

• On Producer Rumors:

  "Drake is two people: it’s Drake and 40. I’ve always felt that way." – Mall (44:07)

• On Artist Legacies:

  "I don’t think it’s crazy to say Cube is close to that [Jamie Foxx] status as well of every box that he’s checked when it comes to creativity..." – Mall (92:13)

• On Cancel Culture:

  "It's just everything is so black and white or red and blue, and people don't know what the fuck they're talking about." – Josh (89:22)

• On Cardi B Album Anxiety:

  "I want this to work so well for her because this is a crossroads." – Mall (81:44)

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Timestamps for Major Segments

• Remembrance & Impact of 9/11: -- [02:36]–[05:27]
• UFO Tangent & Masculinity: -- [05:27]–[08:54]
• Boxing, Fight Party Planning: -- [09:31]–[16:05]
• DIY Pizza Tangent: -- [12:00]–[12:43]
• Drake’s Iceman Episode 3 Review: -- [35:13]–[39:14]
• Producer (40 vs. Boi-1da) Rumors: -- [41:03]–[46:13]
• Toronto Men & Relationships: -- [47:07]–[50:08]
• NBA YoungBoy’s Live Show Phenomenon: -- [53:12]–[58:15]
• Dangerous Concert Stories: -- [68:15]–[73:07]
• Fashion Week & Modeling: -- [20:50]–[29:10]
• Ice Cube’s Legacy & Cancel Culture: -- [86:00]–[93:29]
• Cardi B’s Album Anticipation/Nerves: -- [79:28]–[85:06]
• Conor McGregor as Potential President: -- [97:43]–[100:11]

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Tone and Style

The episode is full of quick wit, sarcasm, and humor, mixed with pockets of introspection and nostalgia. The language remains unpolished and conversational, laced with New York edge, friendly ribbing, and candid personal anecdotes. The room's rapport is tangible—banter flows naturally between segments, often segueing through hilarious sidebars but never straying too far from the culture's pulse.

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For Listeners Who Missed It

This episode is a wide-ranging cultural ride: from solemn commemoration to pop culture theorizing, from inside-baseball hip-hop commentary to dead-serious conversations about artistry and legacy. If you care about where rap, sports, and city culture intersect—and you enjoy jokes about failing at cooking pizza or being too old for NBA YoungBoy—the NRM Youngboys episode showcases the New Rory & MAL crew at their bantering, relatable best.

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Transcript

[Josh]

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[Rory]

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[Mall]

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[Mall]

Apply the volume no worry about welcome back everybody. Who's excited to dissect the culture?

[Rory]

You are.

[Mall]

I am excited.

[Rory]

See it in your face.

[Mall]

I'm very excited.

[Rory]

You Seem like you have something to talk about today, like you're excited, like you're holding some information.

[Mall]

I actually don't have any information.

[Rory]

I can see it in your face. I can tell when you, like, you want to let something out and it's like outside of. You wait until we get on mic and camera to like. You've been avoiding me in the studio since I got here. Like, I walk out there, you come in here. I walk in here, you walk out there.

[Mall]

Plus, I had to take a phone call, but I mean, jet fuel does. It does melt steel beams that. I mean, I've been holding that information for quite some time. So I.

[Rory]

We're not. We're not.

[Mall]

If you're thinking that's what I was.

[Rory]

Gonna get doing that. First of all, continued prayers and condolences to everyone that was affected by the trag. Tragic day of 9 11, 2001. 24 years later, we are here.

[Mall]

Never forget, I stopped by two firehouses today. The one, the one around the corner, and the one in Hell's Kitchens. You know, because a lot of the firefighters that did pass on 9 11, they will open their doors. So everyone could pay the respect. If you walk by a firehouse, you could sit in one to two today, especially the one, you know, the one.

[Rory]

Around the corner is pretty cool. The guys are pretty cool. I see them out there sometimes.

[Mall]

Yeah, it's just. Which I guess maybe it's a selfish thought. When you're. When you're this far downtown, it gets even sadder.

[Rory]

Oh yeah.

[Mall]

Because this firehouse I'm sure was there in one minute. Oh, like, sure.

[Rory]

For sure. They definitely.

[Mall]

So, yeah, that firehouse had, you know, a majority of them were some of the first people in there, which, you know, tragically leads to being higher and. And not making it down. So to all New Yorkers, America, period. I mean, I. I know we say never forget in a condescending way sometimes, but seriously, this. This is a huge day in my life. Like, everything changed. So, you know, it's our. Our 10th or 11th time talking about 911 on the anniversary on a podcast. So, you know, I feel like our listeners know our thoughts on this entire thing, but we still should always bring.

[Rory]

Us being New Yorkers and you know, being in the city, obviously on 9 11. Yeah, it's forever a part of our. Our lives. I don't think we'll ever be anywhere in the world and not remember 9 11. So continue prayers and condolences to all families and victims of the tragic 9 11. And hopefully you know, 24 years later, people are somewhat back to some normalcy and. And life is. Is not really really, you know, somewhat.

[Mall]

No, actually it is normal because everything after 911 has been completely chaotic. And so that's become the new normal.

[Rory]

Yeah, it seems like planes running in.

[Mall]

The tower now that became. All right. Yeah, everything's chaotic after that. Yeah, everything feels normal after that happens.

[Rory]

I keep telling. Well, now more than ever, I think people really. We're just so insensitive. Like, we really don't care about. We. They released a video of us shooting a. A missile at a UFO and it bouncing off the UFO and nobody is even talking about it.

[Josh]

Yeah, I saw that.

[Rory]

Like, the UFO didn't slow down, stop nothing.

[Mall]

Like, it just.

[Rory]

They asked one of the. They asked one of the guys, they said, does this make you nervous? Are you scared? He was like, yeah, like, yeah, I'm scared about like, one of our missiles. Like, we shot at a. An unidentified flying object, and it completely just kept flying straight through the missile.

[Mall]

And you think this is the first time?

[Rory]

Yeah, like, didn't break course. Nothing. This is like, yeah, scary.

[Mall]

I mean, they just got to What's. What's. Homie from Jurassic park in Independence Day. Jeff. They just got to hit.

[Rory]

Jeff Goldblum.

[Mall]

He figured out Independence Day to get through that force field.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mall]

And then home of the redneck sacrificed himself. Like, yeah, we. Come on. We got the technology back.

[Rory]

That was his get back. They could.

[Mall]

Everyone said he didn't get abducted.

[Rory]

Abducted him years ago.

[Mall]

I'm back.

[Rory]

He was waiting for his get back. He was waiting for his get back. Yeah, man. Yeah, but we so insensitive. We don't care. Like, we're going to see. We're going to see the aliens one day. They're going to be just chilling on the corner. We're going to just keep strolling, like, all right, cool. Like, it's. It's nothing.

[Mall]

Obviously, Independence Day was a movie, but it just proves just, like, how much masculinity is really gone. Like, the lack of men and what we know how to do. They were just grabbing anybody to fly fighter jets into space to fight the aliens. And it was just like, farmers, like, yeah, I know how to do that.

[Rory]

Well, anybody.

[Mall]

What happens if they say, yo, mo, here's an F16, it's your time, slime.

[Rory]

No, it was people that were crop dusters that know how to fly.

[Mall]

Yeah, they used to be pilots, but.

[Rory]

Like, they just, like, just had to teach them how to shoot. But, like, for sure.

[Mall]

But I don't even have the knowledge of how to fly one of the Wright brothers planes. Those guys knew how to do those in the farms and then just got in the F16 and saved. Saved the world. Anything like open the womb for Will Smith to get in there and get busy.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mall]

What would you do if you sat in a fighter jet and they was like, nice, it's us or them.

[Rory]

I mean, at some point you have to. You know, if I had some flying experience and it was like, listen, this has. We're trying to save the world, I think I would do it. I think I would get in a fighter jet. I mean, a fighter jet and a crop dust are two totally different planes. That's like saying, yo, jump in a Honda.

[Mall]

We don't even have the crop duster experience. No, but they have zero.

[Rory]

But they wouldn't tell us to get in a plane. You never know. People that was cropped. It was people that knew how to fly some type of airplane because they had.

[Mall]

They had an actual skill. Yeah, they were men. They farmed. They had a trade.

[Rory]

Oh, no, we're far from.

[Mall]

This is.

[Rory]

No, we're far.

[Mall]

You want me to talk to the aliens? I could talk to them.

[Rory]

Yeah, yeah, we can. We can talk about what's going on. Yeah, yeah, we could do that.

[Mall]

You know, next week, what you're thinking?

[Rory]

Yeah, ask the aliens about the party album.

[Mall]

I could play the really good, like, panicked guy in the. The back seat. You know, some fighter jets have, have two seats. The one that's just like, yo, they, they right here. They right here.

[Rory]

Do that. I could do that.

[Mall]

Give me a real frantically tell you where they're at.

[Rory]

Yeah, give me a real pilot and I can like, help him, like, navigate him. Like, yo, listen, they're right there behind us. You know, let's get out of here. I can do that. But me flying, that's not happening. If it's up to me, we all.

[Mall]

I mean, I can't wait for the aliens just to. Let's just settle this once and for all.

[Rory]

Me.

[Mall]

Me just, just take us over. We need a new regime. We. The whole world needs regime change. Not a country. The planet come back in and show us the way.

[Rory]

I keep telling you, I don't think.

[Mall]

The aliens showed us nukes. They're not scared to tell us what to do.

[Rory]

They're not trying to take over the planet. I don't think that's what it is.

[Mall]

It's their planet.

[Rory]

Yeah, they're already here. They've been here.

[Mall]

Are you under the impression that AI is actually an alien from Saturn because that's a new. That's a new theory. AI is actually an alien and it's from Saturn. No, it's not a technology. It is a being. It is. It is from Saturn.

[Rory]

No, I didn't, I didn't jump down that rabbit hole yet.

[Mall]

All right.

[Rory]

Is that where you.

[Mall]

It's your loss.

[Rory]

Is that the rabbit hole that you're down right now?

[Mall]

It's not a rabbit hole. It's a fact.

[Rory]

Okay. No, I didn't know that. You just told me something the other day. It's not far fetched, though. I mean, I'm not mad at that, but I don't. I didn't. I didn't jump down that rabble.

[Mall]

I don't even know how we got to that. What are you doing this weekend? We have the Canelo fight.

[Rory]

Biggest fight of the. Not the century, but no, definitely last few years though.

[Mall]

I feel like this is.

[Rory]

This is definitely one of the biggest fights in the last 20 years, for sure.

[Mall]

That. Wouldn't know. That's excessive.

[Rory]

What. This is definitely one of the biggest fights in the last year.

[Mall]

Even though Pacquiao had lost after he. Then he went to fight Mayweather.

[Rory]

Okay, so that wasn't exactly.

[Mall]

That was. It was still Pacquiao. Mayweather.

[Rory]

Pacquiao. Mayweather fought in both in there, you know, when they. In their primes. And Pacquiao getting knocked out and didn't lose another fight after getting knocked out and then fought Floyd, then, yes, I.

[Mall]

Would still put De La Hoy and Mayweather against this. That was a fight everyone was anticipating. Crazy.

[Rory]

Yeah, that was anticipated. But this is the one of those. This is on that same course of one of the most legendary boxing fights that we will ever see. For sure.

[Mall]

Should I do a fight party? What are we doing? What's everyone doing?

[Rory]

Fight parties. They still have those?

[Mall]

Of course. Would you want to go to a bar?

[Rory]

No, definitely don't want to go to a bar.

[Mall]

I. I hate watching boxing. I watched who's my. My Irish brother and that sent his dick to Azalea Banks.

[Rory]

Canelo.

[Mall]

No, he, first of all, Canelo's Mexican.

[Rory]

Oh.

[Mall]

He just happens to be a gender. What'd you say was McGregor? Yeah, I watched Mayweather McGregor at a bar and it was the worst experience I've ever had in my entire life. Watching fights in public places sucks.

[Rory]

Yeah, in public places suck. I'm not really a. I can watch.

[Mall]

Regular season football at bars, in public places, Super Bowl. I hate it like anytime where they throw Music on during commercials and like, I. I can't stand any of that. I just want to be quiet and watch what the. I'm watching.

[Josh]

Watching the Knicks during the playoffs was fun when me, Peach, and Josh went.

[Mall]

But that's because it's like a community of Knicks fans and New Yorkers. Like, if we went to Mexico, I would definitely want to go out to watch the Canelo fight because it would be crazy everywhere.

[Rory]

Absolutely.

[Mall]

But no, other than that, I'm. I'm fight party all the way. Damaris. I'll pay for the food. If you want to cook, cook.

[Josh]

I thought like, fight parties were like. Like wings and pizza and like.

[Mall]

Yeah, I mean, we could order.

[Rory]

Cook wings and make a pizza. Flip the dough in the air. Yeah, do all of that.

[Mall]

Okay.

[Rory]

Yeah, that's what he said. I actually, like, shred the mozzarella.

[Mall]

I like to make pizza. It's fun.

[Rory]

It's like, how do you make pizza?

[Mall]

You get dough and then you get sauce and you get mozzarella and whatever.

[Rory]

Like, you made pizza from scratch before.

[Mall]

No, I bought dough, and then that's from scratch. I didn't make the dough. I bought it. I bought the dough.

[Rory]

All right, so you didn't make the dough. All right.

[Mall]

Yeah. Oh, I do it often. Like, really often. Like with Amara, too. I mean, she usually ruins him.

[Josh]

Yeah, I was gonna say he's mentioned he makes it with Amara.

[Mall]

Yeah, it's fun.

[Rory]

Okay.

[Mall]

You just. If you get the. The pre crust, that's the easiest one, like where you can just throw in the oven and just whatever you want to put on top. But the dough is fun. I it up a lot. Because even when you buy the dough, if you up the flour, like I give dollar pizza slices more credit once I started to try to make pizza is difficult, but yeah, that's just fine. We can make pizza. We can make wings, or we could just order.

[Josh]

Thank you so much. I'm down.

[Rory]

Waiting for. She's waiting for disorder.

[Josh]

I'm down. I'm down.

[Mall]

Well, all right. Let me order. Let me pre order now for all the Spanish people in Jersey City. I can't order the day of. That would never happen. Oh, no, we. We get the food on Monday.

[Rory]

Nah, you just got to order early in the day, that's all.

[Mall]

But yeah, we could do a five party in my career. That could be fun.

[Rory]

Yeah, that'd be cool.

[Mall]

I know. I mean, I know you're not coming.

[Rory]

But I'll pull up if you have a. If you have a watch party. Charles, I'll pull up.

[Mall]

Okay. I just got to, like. Do y' all know, like, women?

[Rory]

Do I know women? Yes, I know women.

[Mall]

Okay. Add them to the list, because I can provide a venue. I can provide cable. Yeah. I will purchase the fight. I have a tv. I will buy the food. I can't. Like, the other libations, the ones that people care the most about, I can't provide.

[Rory]

Yeah, but women don't want to go to somebody.

[Josh]

I was gonna say women only go to fight parties when they want to. One of the. That's at the fight party.

[Mall]

Well, maybe mall knows women that would want to do that.

[Rory]

Oh, no.

[Mall]

Damn. I'm that hideous.

[Rory]

No, I'm just saying, I don't know off top. I don't know women off the top of my head. Yeah. Like, I would have to do some digging in the files. Like, oh, you know, or we could just have some.

[Mall]

Make it not a sexual thing whatsoever.

[Josh]

And just watch the fight.

[Mall]

Just a bunch of people can just, you know, have conversation, be friends, and focus on the sport of boxing.

[Josh]

Well, Rory, if you want it to be a real fight party, we can get women.

[Mall]

Fight party to me, is 10 people. I'm not like. Come on. Not a fight party. Because at that point, you could just go outside. Yeah. Like 10 people.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Rory]

It's on Netflix, right? Is this on Netflix? I think it's on Netflix.

[Josh]

So it's three of us. We need seven more people. Oh, no.

[Mall]

I can hit Beatrice. I could hit Brit. I could hit just the people that are in the area.

[Josh]

Okay.

[Mall]

That's all I got.

[Rory]

That's all you need.

[Mall]

That's all you need. That is true.

[Rory]

All you need is a couple.

[Mall]

I mean, that is how we watched every Knicks game, too.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mall]

Who do you have in this fight?

[Rory]

Oh, man. So I'm watching. I'm watching the. The Netflix series leading up to the fight. And then I saw an interview with Canelo and Crawford the other day. And Canelo didn't know Crawford had seven kids. So when he found that out, he was like, oh, shit. So, like, his face was kind of like this guy. He's fighting for more than I thought he was like, you know what I'm saying? He had that look on his face, like, seven kids. Holy. Like, you know what I mean? So my heart is saying Crawford, but my boxing mind is saying Canelo.

[Mall]

I'm going Canelo. As much as I do love my. My ginger brother, I think he's going to win. I'm going for Crawford. But I think. I think Canelo's gonna win this. And I'm actually kind of shocked how many people think it's going to be a landslide with Crawford. Like, that's been the consensus of everyone I've talked to that Crawford was good. I was like, are y' all sure?

[Rory]

Like, listen, I love Terrence Crawford. I think he's incredible. I think he, you know, he's going to surprise people with this performance. But I also think that, you know, Canelo is. He's just a different type of fighter that I don't think Crawford has ever faced before, and I think that'll be the difference. I think once Crawford is in the ring with him, he'll realize that this is probably his toughest opponent that he's ever faced. But I think it will be an entertaining fight, though. I don't think it'll be a knockout. I think it's going to go to distance, it's going to go to the cards, and I do think that Canelo will be. Will be the better fighter Saturday night.

[Mall]

I definitely, definitely think it's going the distance for sure. Back to your point of this being one of the biggest fights in the last however many years, now that I do think about it, with everything that's been happening with boxing, I agree. Also, on the side of just the sport, again, we. We've supported the Paul brothers, everything they've done. I think it is great that they're finding other ways to keep boxing relevant. But this may be the most important thing for the real side of the sport because now we're down to Mayweather and Tyson fighting each other, which, again, I like the. I like what Ice Cube is doing with the. The Big Three. Like, I think everyone should still be able to make money in retirement. I have nothing against that whatsoever, but it is starting to take a lot of the seriousness away from what boxing once was, when that gets more views than anything else whatsoever. Like, what Cube is doing is awesome, but if you compare it to the TV rights of the NBA, it's not even close. This Canelo and Crawford shit is like the last shit we have as far as superstars in anticipated fights.

[Rory]

Yeah, this is.

[Mall]

We're sitting there just wondering who Jake Paul is going to fight.

[Rory]

Well, he. He's going to fight Tank.

[Mall]

He's fighting Tank. And again, Tank is in his prime a professional. Yeah, I'd like to see him fight another professional in their prime as well, which is rare sometimes. But Canelo and Crawford, to your point, this is the last one that, like, we've had in quite some time. Well, of course I'm going to watch Mayweather and Tyson, but like.

[Rory]

Oh, yeah, you're going to watch it. But. But Tank still has. He still has the Lamont Roach rematch. Yeah, that was a great first fight they had. People still want to see Tank fight Shakur.

[Mall]

Yeah. And I wish all that would happen before we get to Jake Paul. And that's not a slight to Jake Paul. I just think Tank has a few people he needs to fight before we get to this, that's all. Yeah, like, Floyd could fight fucking James, Tony for all. I can't think anybody is in his prime.

[Rory]

So for him to take that Jake Paul fight now is a little.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Weird. But I mean, the bag that he's getting is hard to. Listen, man. It's hard to turn. It's hard to turn that back. We could say. We could sit here and say what we want.

[Mall]

Who said I wouldn't do the fight? I'm just saying it's just hard to.

[Rory]

Turn that type of money down. But I think Tank, after the Jake Paul fight, he'll go on and fight, obviously, Lamont Roach again. I think he will fight Shakur Stevenson at some point down the line. Um, I think the Canelo Crawford is interesting only because, you know, if this. I think whichever way this goes, it's going to be a rematch.

[Mall]

Yeah. Oh, for sure.

[Rory]

So we'll get a. We'll get a. We'll get a second Canelo Crawford.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Um. So, I mean, you know, we got at least another two years of waiting to see some good fights.

[Mall]

Another interesting point that you bring up. We're definitely going to get a second. It may be a trilogy for all we know. Is the fix already in so we can guarantee that there's a second and third fight? No, I think politics is usually like, we give Jake Paul all them shit. Like, hey, this fight is fixed. But let's not act like professional boxing hasn't been either. Is the fix in already where it feels like it's so debated or somebody gets over, like, let's say Canelo. It goes a distance. It's clear that Canelo. Nine, ten on every fucking round and they give it a Crawford. That's going to spark. All right, we need a rematch. Do we think that because people in their prime not fighting each other is less than it used to be, Are they going to set this up for the next 10 years, five years?

[Rory]

No, I think. I think that either way it goes, the rematch is happening.

[Mall]

I think someone gets slighted that forces the first thing the commentators say out the gaze. All right, now we need a rematch. No, this doesn't.

[Rory]

A second fight is happening no matter which ways this goes. Saturday night, a second fight is happening now, third fight. I think that's dependent on how the second fight goes.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Who's victorious in that fight? Like, if Canelo wins this fight, Crawford wins the second fight, then obviously we have to have a third to kind of break that whole, you know, tie one and one. But, yeah, I mean, it's a lot of money in Canelo, Crawford. They're two of the biggest names in the sport right now. And we know how, you know, the fight game is while fighters are hot, while they're in demand. You know, TV deals, pay per view deals, they're going to get as much money out of it as they can. So, you know, we'll have to see that. And. But this is the. This is the one fight that I think every fight fan has been waiting for and is excited to see.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Rory]

So, I mean, I'm looking forward to it. And again, my heart is with Crawford, but I've seen Canelo too much, man. And, you know, I've seen some great fighters stand in front front of Canelo, and they all say the same thing after the fight was, he's a lot better than I thought he was. He hits a. He's a lot stronger than I thought he was. And again, I love Crawford, but I think he's going to find out the same thing Saturday night.

[Mall]

Yeah, I'm with you. All right. Outside of boxing, how come no one's went to any Fashion Week? Like, we're the. We're the wackest podcast ever. No one went to any Fashion Week events. I was hoping to see y' all Instagram that. Y'.

[Rory]

All.

[Mall]

Y' all was moving and shaking.

[Rory]

I just started, though.

[Mall]

Oh, I thought. I thought that been going on.

[Josh]

It's been some. It's been some stuff.

[Mall]

But I get confused with Fashion Week. Like, it's like seven different weeks in New York. Do they have set weeks for this, or do they just randomly be like, yo, this. Is this the week?

[Rory]

No, it's.

[Mall]

They flip a coin and it's like, you know what? We're gonna go with February 1st.

[Rory]

No, it's always around the same time every year.

[Mall]

Okay.

[Rory]

September 11th to the 16th.

[Mall]

Okay. I. I saw a bunch of events already.

[Rory]

Well, people are in town since Monday dinners and parties and things like that. But, you know, and in the VMAs last weekend, so, you know, this has been. It's been a lot of events. We Live in New York. It's always something going on in New York City. But it is officially Fashion Week as we speak.

[Josh]

We're washed, bro. Like you. You need to just accept it, learn to live with it. Nobody's inviting us to stuff. Well, I feel like y' all get invited. Y' all don't go.

[Mall]

Yeah, no, I got invited stuff. It's just like, what am I. What am I do there? Just stand like.

[Rory]

Yeah. I'm not gonna keep running the different events just to watch the new drop that's coming out next year, and then, you know. No, I would never walk the Runway. Peach.

[Mall]

Wait.

[Rory]

Why not?

[Mall]

I would. No, that would be fun to try to do.

[Rory]

Nah. Serve.

[Josh]

Peach. Get off my ear.

[Rory]

I wouldn't. Would never walk the Runway.

[Mall]

Don't do that. If.

[Josh]

Would you rip.

[Rory]

Don't do that. I'm telling you, I would never walk the Runway.

[Mall]

Jerry Ash Fear of God show asked Maul to walk down in his fear of God Nikes. You're doing it. Why wouldn't you do that? And I'm not taking away from models because they really know how to walk. All you really gotta do is walk. You have to be a professional. Just walk.

[Rory]

Yeah. If Jerry asks, only because I. With Jerry, like, that's one of my favorite designers. Absolutely. I would. But anybody else, I'm cool.

[Mall]

I was just about to say God speed. You wouldn't vanity you not.

[Josh]

He closing the show for God speed. He gonna be the last one.

[Mall]

It's. It's just mall, actually.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mall]

He walks around changes, and it just keeps going in circles and different. Godspeed.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mall]

I mean, vanity. We would have to do all our stuff. Would you walk in the new Royal Mall fashion show? Like, with just our merch?

[Rory]

I mean, I would have to. Yeah.

[Mall]

Okay. I mean, you weren't the last photo shoots. I didn't think that the. The fashion show would be there if.

[Rory]

It was a fashion show.

[Mall]

There's not much to talk about, Damaris. I'm just trying to stir up. If it was a fashion show, we had a fashion shoot, but, yeah, if.

[Rory]

It was a fashion show. Yeah.

[Mall]

Okay. Who else do you think would. Would we get the whole crew? Like, would it be me, you, Damaris, Peach, Josh Benner? We could fly yoms back up. We get Eden on the floor. We get. We get Kelly from volume. Logan, you're thinking Shannon Sharp if he ever signs the new deal.

[Rory]

Nah, we got to stay away from Shannon.

[Mall]

He just did a Tony Yayo episode.

[Rory]

What does that mean?

[Mall]

He's back out on the street.

[Rory]

Put him in our merch.

[Mall]

He's back. Nah, him and Yayo. So they could plug the new episode.

[Rory]

Yayo for sure. Put Yayo in some merch. Let him walk. Let him walk the Runway for sure. Absolutely. We would have Yayo in the fashion show.

[Mall]

All right, well, then let's list the brands that you would do a fashion show with. We have fear of God already. Godspeed. Anything with God makes sense. I mean, I'm salty. That amaz still to this day, has not even put me in any of the ads. At this point, they just be finding anybody, and I'm like, yo, every season, it's a different influence. I'll be. I'll be checking for. I've been checking my Instagram followers.

[Rory]

Like, huh, no, they own.

[Mall]

But I don't got the. I don't got the sauce.

[Rory]

Like, yeah, no, they mess with you. You got to wait outside when the line drops. They'll wait outside. We'll let you in.

[Mall]

I. I think I'm in. And shout out to Teddy. I love Ame, but I think I'm in an abusive relationship with them.

[Rory]

Why?

[Mall]

Because I'll happily pay for stuff all the time. I pay for stuff all the time. But every time I start to feel like I'm getting in to the place of this is a whole new brand. Y' all stopping me at the door this and that. All of a sudden, I get a friends and family discount anytime I'm about to leave. Like, I really feel like. Like, in a. Like a DV Victor. They do like they love bomb every single time. I'm about love. Why y' all treat me like this? I pay for. I support. I wear it everywhere. Now y' all saying, oh, you got to make an appointment to just buy a T shirt. I'm like, who the. Anytime that happens, somebody from the OG first staff will be like, yo, no, what are you doing? Come on, yo, tell him. 70% off anything.

[Rory]

Yeah, yeah.

[Mall]

It's a love bomb every single time.

[Rory]

Yeah, they want to keep you. They want to keep you there just as long as they can.

[Mall]

I mean, if I got to walk in in their show, yeah, they'd have me forever.

[Rory]

AM is dope, though. They got some fly shit.

[Mall]

I mean, we would never probably get asked for any designer. We wouldn't get asked, period. But designer. I like Dior stuff to some degree. Dr. I would do LV. I don't just the non printed everywhere. But I. I don't know. I feel like I would trip on.

[Rory]

The Runway over nothing.

[Josh]

Over nothing.

[Mall]

Over over my insecurities.

[Josh]

All he do is trip over nothing.

[Mall]

I'd be tripping over overthinking of left, right, left, right, left, right.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mall]

Yo, this behind walking, he can't even walk. I. I probably start holding my breath and not realize it. Like, 40 seconds in, I'd be like, I just realized I didn't breathe. Yeah, I start coughing.

[Josh]

Bro.

[Mall]

Stoic ass face.

[Rory]

Oh, my God.

[Mall]

I feel like that would be way harder than people think it is.

[Rory]

Walking the wrong way.

[Mall]

Hell, yeah. That looks terrifying.

[Rory]

Just walking. Or you would have.

[Mall]

No, I can just walk, but not on a Runway. Like, I'd have to have, like, the right bop. I'd start overthinking.

[Rory]

See, that's why. That's why they wouldn't ask you.

[Mall]

Oh, I know. I know that I'm giving credit to models because that is an art to walking in that regard. But, like, would it be weird if I practice in the mirror of, like, what. What I wanted to give them as.

[Rory]

Far as a walk?

[Mall]

Very, like, would it be, you know, casual, stoic? Would.

[Rory]

They're very weird. Just walk. Just put an outfit on and just go out there and let the people see the outfit. Very simple. You're overthinking this thing. Just be cool, man. That's all you got to do. Just be cool. Act like you're going to pay to meet her.

[Mall]

I think it was 2015 or 16 when. When Kanye was doing all those fashion shows for Pablo. And then, you know, he did with the listening session in the Garden, where it was like, all that. And then he did, like, Central park or whatever, you know, they were. Because ye wanted to do so many of them. Def Jam was literally calling anybody that they fucking knew, and they was like, well, you want to put on an American Apparel T shirt and walk in Central Park?

[Rory]

I was like, no, they called you for that.

[Mall]

They called everybody more for.

[Rory]

For Yay. Release.

[Mall]

Because he wanted to do, like, 75, not like, on some influencer. Lil Yachty was in that. And no one even knew really who Yachty was. Like that at that time, like, they were calling anybody that was connected to anyone at Def Jam because. Because Kanye had had already over overused at anyone in the fashion world of the real models. They just needed people to stand for an hour and a half. Not even in. In easy apparel. Like, literally just white T shirts and whatever aesthetic. And you just had to be an extra in the back. I was like.

[Rory]

I think I remember that.

[Mall]

I was like, you just want me to stand?

[Rory]

That was some years ago, 2016. Yeah. Yeah, I remember that.

[Mall]

Oh, my God. But I regret it now. If I were to go back, we.

[Rory]

Need to find out.

[Mall]

I would have said yes. I would have said yes to that. Now, in retrospect, I really would have. That would have just been a story to have of, like, I had to stand like this. Like. Like I was guarding the queen.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mall]

For two hours straight. Not even in easy clothes, just in a regular white T shirt and white pants just like this in Central Park.

[Rory]

We gotta find that photo. I'm sure some faces in there like we look at now for sure, like, oh, like that person was it. I was watching your. Your worst movie of all time, Rudy, the other night, and I didn't realize that Vince Vaughn was the.

[Mall]

The protagonist.

[Rory]

Not, yo, that I was crying, laughing, like, I had no idea.

[Mall]

Yeah, because that wasn't post Swingers, Right. That might have been Vince's, like, first real big movie.

[Rory]

That's what I'm saying. So I. And seeing that, I was like, yo, I had no idea that that was Vince Vaughn the whole time.

[Mall]

And he kind of still acts like he did in Wedding Crashers too. Like, same.

[Rory]

Like the same.

[Mall]

Once you look at his whole filmography after, it's like he's really just acting like he does.

[Rory]

He's getting older. Like he's the same person.

[Mall]

He's spoiled lazy, running back. Same versus Wedding Crash. Yeah, that. So you. So you still like the movie?

[Rory]

I do like Rudy, man. I don't know why you don't like that movie. It was a good movie. It's a really good movie.

[Mall]

Celebrating mediocre.

[Rory]

Nah, man, it was. It was. It was a good movie, man.

[Mall]

Didn't even do nothing with that degree.

[Rory]

That's not true.

[Mall]

He became a public speaker because of the movie.

[Rory]

No, I'm sure he did something before that, though.

[Mall]

He probably went to go work back at his father's steel mill.

[Rory]

No worry about Ma.

[Mall]

I know you do not have a phone, so I am here to let you know that that is probably a device that you need in this day and age.

[Rory]

Bought me one, you got me one.

[Mall]

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[Rory]

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[Mall]

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[Rory]

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[Rory]

Did you see Iceman Episode three?

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Rory]

What you think about it?

[Mall]

Yeah, I was underwhelmed. I didn't. I thought the, the songs that he previewed were underwhelming compared to all the other Iceman stuff and the stuff he's put on DSPs visually, it was cool. I sound like a hypocrite, but I'm getting a little tired of just, like, all the Easter egg stuff. And, like, everything now has to focus on what does this mean? What does this mean? All right, there's a bunch of guys in the balcony. One has a white hat. What is, like. It's just getting, like, exhausting. I get why he's doing it, and if I were him or advising him, I'd do the same thing. You got to lean into it. This is what came out of the beef. But musically, that's the only thing I. I really care about. At the end of the day, I thought that whatever happened. What's the name of the song? It didn't go on DSPs.

[Josh]

You mean that's just how I feel, Rory.

[Mall]

I mean, yes, the same thing. No, what happened? That's how I feel. What. What did I miss? Just a bunch of those titles. I just thought it was underwhelming. And even if it's a demo, cool. Like, it's cool to leak stuff on stream, but at this high quality of production and one of the first rappers that is doing it this, this way, as far as releasing music off stream live with visuals, I just don't think it matched up to the music that we've been hearing from Drake the last few weeks. It started out crazy. I thought we was about to get Drake back in his bag, and then it switched into something that I think is beneath Drake's talent level. That's. That's really it. The Yeet started out cool, too.

[Rory]

I don't know.

[Mall]

I don't want to be the one to comment on a Drake and eat song eats. Not for me. I don't know if the kids love that, but I don't know. It feels like a lot. Just more. More of the same, that's all. Almost more of the same beats, more the same flows, more the same content.

[Rory]

I want to see where it goes, where the story goes. I mean, the record that he ended with, that. That record sounds crazy.

[Mall]

I wanted to hear whatever beat was playing when he was in the elevator of episode two. That's what I thought we were getting. And I don't know, I think everybody.

[Rory]

Felt like that that's what they would get, but I don't know. But see, that's it.

[Mall]

Everyone thought they was getting the red button, and I laughed. I didn't think we were getting it on this one whatsoever.

[Rory]

I think everybody, a lot of the drinks. What did I miss? Was the first one. So I think Everybody felt like it was going to be, like, releases. I mean, obviously the Yeet and Julia Wolf record came out dog, actually. Yeah, but the record.

[Mall]

But that's a. That's her record, though, no?

[Rory]

Yeah, I believe so. But that. That. That record at the end with the Iceman sample, that sounds like. That sounds like it might be the intro to the Iceman album.

[Mall]

Here's my thing. Nobody in their right mind thinks Drake does not have access to amazing production. So you can keep playing all these crazy beats. Like, I believe. I don't know if it was true, but everyone said that was a boy wonder beat that when he was in the elevator. Yeah, like, we already know Drake has worked with, put on, partnered with some of the greatest producers of our generation. Nobody thinks Drake can't get good beats. What are you saying on them? So I teasing. The beats is cool, but what are you gonna say is what people care about. But I get it. It's a rollout. It's anticipation. I just. This was the most underwhelming Iceman episode. Like, he, I think, really needs to make a bang with episode four for people to continue to care about the series. I thought 1 and 2 were cool. Caused up more conversation, put out actual music with it. This one just. I felt like it was a bit of a dud and any anticipation went away at the end of it. It was like, that was it.

[Rory]

This could be his Wire Season 2.

[Mall]

This could be the Ports. This is the whole reason of how we get season. This could be the docs 3, 4, 5.

[Rory]

This could be him at the docks. Look, they wrote Legacy on the table in tomato sauce, poured the ice on top of it. I mean, listen, it's going to be some things you might go back to be like, okay, that all makes sense now.

[Mall]

I rewatched The Wire Season 2, actually pretty recently, and I always felt underwhelmed by that. I don't know if it's just because I got, like, older and knew where the rest of the season was going. I actually, like, enjoy season two. See, it's definitely. It's not the best, but the end of season two, going into season three may be my favorite part of the entire series. Like, that whole Barkstead or Marlo transition from two to three to me, is, like, the best part of it. So I take back a lot of the hate I had for season two of the Wire. It's just we saw so many white faces, and it was like, all right, man, come on, show us this.

[Rory]

Yeah, see, so you might feel the same way about Iceman Episode 3i.

[Mall]

Unless he completely changes. What's it called? The Mars.

[Josh]

That's just the way I feel. Or this.

[Mall]

Yeah, yeah.

[Josh]

That's just how I feel. We cannot get that one right.

[Mall]

Because he said that's just how I feel and didn't tell me anything. He felt. Maybe you can clean that record up. But as of now, I don't think there could be anything that would make me like, really like that record.

[Rory]

But okay.

[Mall]

Ah. I mean, you. You know where I stood on. On the last two. Like, I even still liked the Central C record. This was just the. The underwhelming one to me. And I think he needs to do a quick, quick turnaround. I know he's still doing shows, but I would say episode four needs to come because the anticipation. Anticipation he built with one and two, I think it dropped at episode three.

[Rory]

I think the fact. Well, we've never seen an artist roll out an album this way. This is probably the first seen this. I think that's.

[Mall]

But it also has to hit with. With what he's saying because it's the most important time. That's all.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mall]

What. What was this rumor? I saw this clip too, with stat quote saying 40 and boy wonder have hated each other for years. I don't know if I'm. I'm rolling.

[Rory]

Stat Quo said that. First of all, I haven't heard about Stat Cole. What's up with Stat? Is he okay?

[Mall]

Yeah. And shout out to Stat Quo. I always with Stack Quo. I haven't heard his name or seen him in a while, but that could just be because I'm.

[Rory]

Man, we burned that Stat. We burnt that Stat mixtape in the ground when that dropped.

[Mall]

Correct. I. I wish Shady didn't fumble the talent that they had. But he was on a stream with Justin Hunt. They were talking about Drake and Kendrick and he mentioned. I also didn't know him in Boy Wonder were so close. He said that's his brother. He said boy wonder and 40 were not friends for years. Which, I mean, I don't know if that's like breaking news. Like, I don't know Stat Quo's relationship with that crew, that he would be valid in that. But I've said to you on this pod and off mic of my perception of not even knowing anything. I felt like 40 has been a little distant in Drake's career for the last few years. And I didn't know if that was because he was working on other stuff or working on OVO sound stuff. I know he was. There's all those footage of him with four bats. Like, I thought maybe he was focusing on other stuff, but it's felt like 40 hasn't had a hand in Drake's career the same he did prior, to. Which is fine. Like that happens. I don't necessarily think that means there's beef, but we clearly see that Boy Wonder is still very, very much hands on with everything that Drake does, even through the battle as well. So I'm not saying it's a thing that Stat Quo said it, but. Yeah. Perception. We don't know. We don't know. Well, I mean, you. You know these people, but I don't really know what goes on in their internal. I've seen 40 be distant. I've seen Wonder and Drake not be distant. As a fan, just as a fan, as someone that reads credits at someone that's. That has also obsessed over Drake's sound for the last 15 years that 40 had a huge hand in. I can tell the difference when 40 is involved and when he's not, just because I'm a nerd. But yeah. I don't know if there was some tension internally with the crew, which happens, or 40 just wanted to go do some other.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mall]

And focus on the OVO sound thing. But I do think it's interesting that that Stat Quo said that.

[Rory]

I mean, I. I don't hate. I don't know if they hated each other.

[Mall]

Yeah, hates. Probably. They're both really nice people. Yeah. I don't know if they hate.

[Rory]

I don't know if anybody could hate 40. Like, he doesn't have an energy that I think people would hate him. Like, Wanda is super cool. I don't see why anybody hate him. Maybe just competitive, you know, kind of that energy with producers, you know, that little thing. But I don't know if that's hate. It could be just a competitive thing.

[Mall]

I feel like 40, no matter what, it could be a just blaze record. 40 is. Was going to touch every single record. Like 40. How 40 mixes is legendary to this era of how I see a lot of other mixers. He touches everything from not just engineering, production and mixing with every boy. One to beat too. Like, it's not competition. 40 has to put his sauce on everything. Like, to me, we used to talk years and years ago. I've always felt like Drake and 40 were a duo. Hip hop fans are going to get so mad at me. Eric B. Rock Kim. Like, I've always felt they're a group. To me, Drake is two people. It's Drake and 40. I've always felt that way. So competition, like, nah, I feel like 40 is one of those people. Like, let's get the best that we can get. And I'll arrange everything. So I can't see a competition between wonderful and 40 and wonder on the same side is like, even when, you know, in Bingo Card, of course, gonna bring Hov up in the fade to black when Hov was telling, just like, you know, you could, like, maybe not make the album. Like, if you don't show up, like, you're not making the album and just like, yeah, right. Like, that's our. Our sound people are waiting for, no matter what. That's Wonder and Drake. That's not a competition. You're always gonna need the Boy Wonders sound with Drake, it's his sound too. Where would there be a competition? Yeah, I mean, they all created this sound together.

[Rory]

Yeah. You know, because obviously you produce music as well. So you know what it is when you have guys that. It's just, this is our circle. This is our camp. This is our base. We all work together. We all work off each other. If I have an idea, you know, you might be able to help bring it to fruition. Like, you might understand the sound that I'm looking for. So when I say competitive, it's not like a competitive, like, I'm trying to outdo you. It's competitive like I'm trying to create some shit that's gonna inspire you. Like, oh, shit, that was crazy. Like, that's what. That's what 40's doing, that I gotta, you know, with one of that shit, I gotta go back in. I gotta create some shit. Like, I think that type of energy. I don't think it was a. A competitive energy in where, you know, we trying to, you know, go against each other. It was more so, like, inspiring, Motivating each other to kind of like, create the best sound and the. The best that they've done, you know, throughout the years. With Drake, I think it's a. It's a family. It's more of a family thing. Not, you know, a negative competitive thing. It's more or less just like, you know, pushing each other.

[Mall]

I mean, I think because all. All of the people in his camp. It's 40 wonder vinyls, everyone that's. Hush. Everyone that's in there has created this sound. With Drake, maybe they had different. Different ideas of where it should go, and that started a disagreement rather than a competition thing of like, hey, we all created the sound. I think it should go this way. I think it should go that way. But my real hot take on this entire thing is Messi. You know, I love Toronto, but I've. I've spent a lot of time pause around some Toronto men. Sometimes y' all get emotional when somebody, somebody girl you always starting some. But I, I've said, I mean I've jokingly said that so you know, all jokes have some truth. I've joked with men from Toronto about this too. Like Toronto men love, love their hoes. Sometimes somebody feels away. I get along with Toronto men.

[Rory]

Yeah, but don't say Toronto men, men.

[Mall]

Nah, it's specific up there.

[Rory]

Nah, you nah right here.

[Mall]

That's why they make great music.

[Rory]

It's specific right here.

[Mall]

No, that's why they make incredible music.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mall]

Because that's what was missing in music. We still have to love our hoes, our women. Everybody, everyone got too cool. At least they be talking about their feelings. They feel away.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mall]

Don't act like you have not been around. Like if you were to do a percentage wise, of course every man is an individual. But if we were to put data up, if we asked Saturn Chat gbt who has the most emotional men when it comes to women in the greater North America area, what, what city would you say just in, just in a barbershop?

[Rory]

New York.

[Mall]

Oh no. Hell no.

[Josh]

What?

[Rory]

Go somebody girl of indictment and see what happens.

[Mall]

That's an ego thing though.

[Josh]

Nah, indictment, all of it is ego thing.

[Rory]

What are you talking about?

[Mall]

That's gonna be everything you're saying that's gonna be on gang. That's. He's not gonna, he's gonna feel more angry at the fact that he felt like he was disrespected. Not that you the girl that he loves.

[Rory]

What? It's all ego. No matter how you try to slice that pie. That's ego pie right there. That's ego piece. That's not a Toronto thing. That's a man thing.

[Mall]

Men all over logic of course, but.

[Rory]

La, New York, Atlanta, those that know.

[Mall]

No, what I'm saying is not crazy women. I've had this conversation with countless people from Canada, from America, from the uk, Toronto men, I'm not saying it's a bad thing, but they just are deeply in love with the. If they say hi to a woman that's theirs now.

[Josh]

Okay, well.

[Mall]

And they gonna feel away if you say hi back.

[Josh]

Let's put it like this. Maybe they're. It's not that they love them their hoes more, it's that they're not afraid to show it more. They're like less like in New York will pretend they don't look at like they. They don't. Yeah, they don't.

[Mall]

They'll crash for the streets and then they'll. They'll take it and they'll bury that inside, you know, Not Toronto men gonna be like, yo, why'd you do that?

[Rory]

I just don't understand how you're making a lot of time in Toronto. I've never ran through. You ran into that though. Okay, never. I'm just saying me, my personal experience, I've never ran into that.

[Mall]

I mean, maybe you don't get.

[Rory]

I don't know. Oh, that is true. That is very true. Maybe I don't. We'll never know.

[Mall]

But usually what you guys say all the time, which I do disagree. It's always women that. That break up everything. That could be the. The 40 and Boy Wonder.

[Rory]

Nah, man, it's not. That's not. I don't know where status getting that from.

[Mall]

That broke up Drake in the weekend.

[Rory]

I don't know if it broke them up.

[Mall]

It definitely did.

[Rory]

No, I think that was more business. Wasn't a woman.

[Mall]

No, I didn't really have business like that. He turned that down. And they still remained friends. And then Drake took Shorty out on. On a date.

[Rory]

I don't know what you're talking about.

[Mall]

He even said it in family matters. We ain't do but lip lock like, yeah, you supposed to be my man's and you take my actual ex girlfriend out on a date publicly.

[Rory]

But how you think I'm gonna feel.

[Mall]

A fucking way about you?

[Rory]

How you thought he was talking to so many people on that record.

[Mall]

That specific part is 100 about the Weeknd.

[Rory]

Nah, see, when you put 100 on.

[Josh]

It, that's when you put 100 on somebody else lips.

[Rory]

Exactly.

[Josh]

Pause.

[Rory]

See, that's where you get into trouble at 100%. How do you know that?

[Mall]

I don't.

[Rory]

Why do you say that's 100?

[Mall]

Because it is. But no, y' all got it.

[Rory]

All right, cool.

[Mall]

If. If we have to put the fact under all the podcast shit, then no, I don't know.

[Rory]

No, you said. I fucking know you said 100%.

[Mall]

Fucking grind rock can't back me up on this. But I. I'm telling you.

[Rory]

Okay, now listen, maybe you got information. I don't. I'm not mad at that.

[Mall]

That was a pup. This isn't behind the scenes. Information is a public thing. What's the famous chick name?

[Rory]

I'm not. I'm not saying it wasn't A public thing. I'm saying you said specifically on family matters. When he said all I did was lip lock. You said that was 100. About the weekend and some girl. That's what you just said.

[Mall]

There's no way you. You can't say this is about the weekend. This is 100. I don't need confirmation. And let me do this very, very slowly, because there are n words in here, and you guys are not going to get me again. If Drake Shooter's doing tick tocks real estate in your gang, that's P's brother. Y' all ain't getting shot. Is. Who is this? Who is he talking to right here? I just want to ask.

[Rory]

I don't know. You tell me.

[Mall]

Well, P is. Would we pring, which is their mutual friend. And Prince Brother is in weekend's camp. Do we assume that that's who he's talking about? Okay, can't listen to the stick talk in falsetto. Save it for hip hop. Who. Who would he. Is he talking about Rick Ross? Or is he talking about maybe a singer that sings in falsetto?

[Rory]

Okay, keep going.

[Mall]

You don't even be at home, dog. You want a souvenir out the gift shop. Still mad about that one hoe? We ain't even. I just lip locked. Who is he talking about? In your 20v one, who does metro sing in falsetto? Does Kendrick sing in falsetto? All of this is from Toronto. Is Metro from Toronto?

[Rory]

You said 100. All right, stand on it. Yeah. Break it down.

[Josh]

You're not crazy, Rory.

[Rory]

I know you.

[Josh]

We're not trying to make you feel crazy. You're not crazy.

[Rory]

Not at all. I just said. He said 100. I said, okay.

[Mall]

You guys think Kai heard us speaking of Iceman episode three? Not us specifically, but the whole world of like. All right, we respect you, but Complex Media music list number one. I don't know if you're the music guy. He's been getting some hot takes off. I know he's critiqued music before, but he said that Iceman episode three was trash out the gate.

[Josh]

Yeah, I didn't expect him. I didn't expect him to say that. It's not that I don't believe that he feels that way. I just didn't expect him to say that.

[Mall]

But maybe he wants to be respected in the music space with. With some hot takes. Maybe. Or maybe he probably also feels that as well, because then he tried to call Drake and everyone said he was. He was blocked. But that's just how phones ring when someone's overseas. Like, that's not a blocked call. But I do think Drake in the petty mode that he's in probably will block Kai at some point for saying that. But I don't know. He's got. He's got Young Boy. He was crying at Young Boy's tour. He doesn't need Drake.

[Josh]

Young Boy blowing up, man. Young. Well, he been blew up. But like, I'm. He's starting to entertain.

[Rory]

Young Boy just blowing up.

[Mall]

I know I'm rappers ever.

[Josh]

That's why I corrected myself. He's entering into my old ass stratosphere of old people, right? Who's still playing Eclipse album over and over again. Like, he's starting to go viral over here. I'm like, damn. Like, NBA Youngboy shows look lit.

[Rory]

Like, oh, no.

[Josh]

This looking like somebody to be at.

[Mall]

A real, real fan base. But I do like seeing this because a lot of people, including myself, say, all right, you stream crazier than everyone can. You sell a ticket. Not only is he selling crazy, everyone knows every word. They're losing their mind. Kai is crying like. Like, my bad.

[Rory]

Yeah. Seeing NBA Youngboy shows is definitely like confirmation that I'm just old. I don't know one NBA Youngboy like, song. And like, I'm watching the clips and I love seeing the entire, like, stadium, arena, everybody into it, everybody knowing. But it's kind of like I'm looking at this shit like, oh, this is a whole part of the culture that I have no idea about.

[Josh]

You look like the Jay Z mean.

[Mall]

Where he was like, yeah, like, I'm.

[Rory]

Cause like, he getting his shit off. Like, he flowing and I'm just like. And I'm looking at, you know, just the audience and everybody knows all the lyrics and things like that. And I'm just like, the energy is what is a trap. I'm like, oh, shit, this is a show. If you go out on stage as an artist, it is your only. It's your. Like, there's nothing probably greater than looking out into a fucking arena. And everybody knows every word you're saying. Like, that's an artist's dream. You know what I'm saying? So to see that and to see everybody so, like, just turnt up and you know what I'm saying? There's somebody from the. It's like, okay, like, this is. This is a show. These are like his fans. Like, people that have been waiting to see him live. They couldn't wait for this moment. They couldn't wait for this tour to come to their city. Like, this is what hip hop is about. Like, rapper comes on stage, everybody goes crazy. Nobody's trying to be, you know, cool. Everybody's standing on their seats, shirts off, rapping. The girls know all the lyrics, the guys know all the lyrics. Like that to me is just some incredible shit to witness.

[Josh]

But so we going.

[Mall]

I don't.

[Josh]

I feel like we should go as a social experiment.

[Rory]

I don't know if that's the social experiment though. I don't know if you want to socially experiment with an NBA YoungBoy Live show.

[Mall]

I am curious.

[Rory]

I feel like you'll get chased out. Cause they. I feel like his fans know. Yeah, they know. Like, n. You ain't supposed to be here. This ain't for you. Like, don't try to jump on now. Like, we been this been a whole way. Obviously, I'm familiar with NBA youngboy. I don't know his music the way his fans, you know, know it. But I'm familiar with the fan base that he has. I'm familiar with the following that he has and the streaming numbers that he does. Like, we all know that. But to now see it like night after night. He just did LA last night. Kai was there. Kai is crying. I'm just seeing this shit. I'm just like, yo, what is happening right now?

[Mall]

I'm curious based off the sound of stuff. Like, for example, when we saw Gucci versus Jeezy and we saw the difference, Gucci being the legend that he is, a lot of his legendary records were never mixed. They was thrown out. Like, Jeezy had Def Jam behind him with the biggest budget. His records just feel expensive. They sound expensive. The Gucci didn't hit the same. Next to that, I've never seen an arena tour young boy's volume, like how much he puts out. Some of his most classic records are like two track that I don't even know how it could sound in an arena. Yet when I see the footage, it looks like J. Cole's performing. That's what I want to see. Like, how are these records transferring in a arena? I've never seen anyone do that. It's my young boy, the type of music he makes. And even some of the classic core fan base records he has are so low quality. I'm not talking about him, but they're low quality records. You can tell he too tract. It was like, yo, upload that to the Internet. Now. I would love, like, I want to know how that rings off in an arena.

[Rory]

All that.

[Mall]

Because even Gucci. Gucci has classic. But even though just on A stream next to Jeezy with an expensive sound. It was like, damn, this is a classic Jeezy record. But it don't hit because it just don't sound. Yeah, the same next to this.

[Rory]

And then in a state, in an arena.

[Mall]

Yeah, like, I gotta know how that sounds.

[Rory]

All that from Youngboy sound look like it's going off. I love seeing people online saying, yo, if you don't perform this one, I'm gonna be upset. Like, all of that, to me, is just dope to see people so eng with an artist like that. And then for NBA youngboy to go out there and, you know, it seems like he's, you know, he's fulfilling the request. Yeah, he's doing all the joints that, you know, his fans want to hear. I just think this is some really, really dope shit to watch.

[Josh]

Josh, I'm sending you the viral TikTok that's, like, going on right now with this girl that has, like, everybody like, well, damn, I want to go to the NBA show. That's the one that made me want to go to the NBA show. I'm like, yo, I want to feel this passionately about music. Like, they screaming that shit. Like, when the first month that, like, dreams and nightmares came out, I'm like, I want to feel that feeling again. I want to feel that bitch, I'm a boss feeling again. The N in Paris feeling like, I haven't had that feeling in a while.

[Mall]

A connection to it. Because they lived through the time of.

[Rory]

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. We can't go because it's like we would just be trying to get on board now, and it's kind of like we not going to understand it. We need some time to really, like, get take a.

[Josh]

Trolling.

[Rory]

All y' all acting like some hoes to me.

[Mall]

I mean, this sounds fire.

[Rory]

That looks.

[Josh]

That sounds fire. Like, I.

[Mall]

She delivered the. Out of this, too.

[Josh]

All right, pause it, Josh, before we get, what you call it, demonetized. But come on, man. How do you not. That sounds fire to me. I can't.

[Mall]

Like, I want to go with her.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Mall]

Like, I want to go with somebody that's going to, like, wrap those lyrics in my face. So I start to feel like, this is it. This is.

[Rory]

See, that's why I know I can't.

[Mall]

Go close to your chest, cuz you.

[Rory]

Know how I'm at shows. I'm just standing there, literally just watching the artist perform. I'm not. You've been to meet to me with Drake. Shows you like you just standing there like. And I know all these records. I don't know all of these records. So I'm really going to be listening. Standing there watching Youngboy perform and I can't go with somebody that knows and they hyped and they trying to get me. I'm like, yo, bro, I don't even know what he's saying.

[Josh]

Niggas gonna be mosh pitting.

[Rory]

Yeah, so it's fake if I go because I don't even know these, these songs like that. So some of them I'm like, I might know a couple of the, the bars. Like, okay, yeah, I remember that ball right there. But these people are like you said, Rory, they grew up with this shit. They lived with this music. They couldn't wait for Youngboy to come to their city. Like, they've been waiting for this moment for years. So now that it's here, I just think it's dope to see it and shout out to Youngboy, man, because, you know, being able to develop a fan base like this and all of these years of curating this sound for your audience and now being able to go to these cities and sell out these arenas is. It's some dope shit. So salute to NBA YoungBoy, man.

[Josh]

I'm gonna check it out. I feel like I've always judged him by the way he looked.

[Rory]

I mean, he looked like every other.

[Josh]

Yeah, I know. That's why I don't listen to them. If I, if I met you, he looked like, who else? Who?

[Rory]

A bunch of artists you listen to. It's the same.

[Josh]

Look who, who?

[Rory]

Dimash, you listen to ratchet shit.

[Josh]

Not men. That's. I listen to women. Ratchet shit. I don't listen to men. Ratchet shit. I don't know none of this shit. None of these people. If I will meet you in a dark alley and you look like I should be afraid of you, like I should cross the street. I don't really check your music out. I don't know. And I shouldn't do that. I should be better, which is why I'm going to check out some of NBA's music. I don't be listening to these, these rappers with the. That be the tattoos and shit on their face like that. I don't listen to that.

[Rory]

You listen to Wayne.

[Josh]

I was just about to say, okay, Wayne, the. The original, the creator. Right? But these new ones, no. And y' all don't either. Why am I looking at me like I'm crazy?

[Mall]

Oh, no, I'm aware that he has been a superstar in his own right with his fan base for a long time. I've seen the numbers, I've tried. I've done the Jay Z headbop, like, pretending like I think this is all right, but I'm never gonna listen to again. But I need somebody like that girl to sell it to me with the green hair. What's, what's, what's worse with a concert, going with somebody that's way too cool, like Maul bringing up the Drake show when we was there. Or, for example, Diani, Scotty Beam. Love you to death. Every cold show I go to with her, she's rapping every word in my face the entire time.

[Josh]

I was insane at the cold show.

[Rory]

I was insufferable.

[Mall]

Because I, I, I feed off Diana's energy. It makes it feel a little bit better. Like, sometimes I'll rap back with her.

[Rory]

I get mad if I'm in the car and somebody's rapping the whole song.

[Mall]

A car, that's too much. So now if we allowed enough where you could wrap.

[Rory]

If we at the show. And you'll keep. You keep jumping in my ear, in my face, trying to get balls. It's worse. It's like, yo, shut the fuck. The artist is right here in front of us. Like, let them do that. You shut. You shut up.

[Josh]

Nah, that was me at Cole. I was talking like.

[Mall]

But you rapped along at a concert before. No, I'm not saying screaming in someone's face, but.

[Rory]

Yeah, but I'm not grabbing you, trying to, like, get you, like.

[Josh]

But to that type of show, that's.

[Rory]

What you gotta do at this show. You gotta punch somebody in their face.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Mall]

Like you.

[Rory]

Yeah, you gotta punch somebody in their face for entrance.

[Josh]

It's like a jello shot.

[Rory]

Yeah, this is.

[Mall]

This is.

[Rory]

That's just what this is. But it's dope to see it, man. It's definitely dope to see it. I know he did LA last night, I think. I'm not sure where else is going. But, yo, I gotta download more NBA youngboy music and learn the music more. So before I can go to a live show, I can't just go out there not knowing. I gotta know the music. I have to know the music.

[Josh]

He coming to Newark on September 29th. Oh, Ma's birthday. Well, not your actual birthday, but your birthday weekend.

[Rory]

Yeah. Nah, nah.

[Mall]

I would have considered the Garden or Barclays.

[Josh]

Oh, Barclays.

[Mall]

I live closer to the Prudential Center.

[Rory]

September 27th.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Mall]

The. Yo, the Jersey crowd. The Jersey young boy. Crowd.

[Josh]

I'm good.

[Mall]

That is gonna be the most terrifying. The Newark show compared to the Garden show, which, by the way, is 20 minutes away from each other.

[Rory]

Two different worlds.

[Josh]

No, I'm cool. I'm going to the Born in Brooklyn. I promise you. I'm not going to the one in Newark. You bug the out. It was concert in Newark. I'm cool.

[Mall]

If you're gonna experience it, maybe the Newark one is the one. Yeah. But I gotta get the real feeling.

[Josh]

But they gonna shoot outside that.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Newark. I'm cool.

[Rory]

I feel like I gotta wear shiesty. If I go though, I got.

[Mall]

But then you're gonna be like everybody else. You gotta stand out.

[Rory]

No, no, you gotta. You gotta blend. I have to blend in. Wears wearing a suit to the NBA YoungBoy Show. They will beat the out of me. First of all, they're gonna think I'm a narcissist. A suit at an NBA young boy show. No, no, you can't dress like we're.

[Mall]

Going to the GZ Orchestra show.

[Rory]

No, absolutely.

[Josh]

Oh, that's fine.

[Rory]

No, it's not. I promise you, it's not. Nah.

[Mall]

I feel like NBA youngboy shows should change the rules for arenas. I should be able to walk in with no shirt.

[Rory]

There's people in there with no shirts on.

[Mall]

Well, they walked in with a shirt on. They took it off after. I'm saying I should be able to show up with no shirts. Hurt at all.

[Rory]

I mean, you know, has young boy.

[Mall]

Ever like a little high?

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mall]

Oh, I thought that was his whole aesthetic. He's just shirtless.

[Rory]

No, he went. He wearing some on stage. I mean, I'm sure at some point he might take his shirt off and really get into the, you know.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Night. But it's just dope to see it, man. All the clips I'm seeing is the energy is. I haven't seen. Bro. I'm not gonna lie. That type of energy is crazy for the entire arena to be.

[Mall]

You know how hard it is to sell tickets, period, right now, let alone an arena. But you know that type of clip.

[Rory]

Yeah, yeah. And like I said, his fan base is very. They've been waiting for this. They've been way couldn't wait for this tour.

[Mall]

And you know, they're dedicated fans because. And I'm not going to get into. Everyone makes mistakes. But I feel like every other month I'm seeing some wild. That young boy is doing. Like those are little dates he could do anything. The fact how he's moved on certain things or how the Internet has painted him. And you could still sell out arenas this way. Yeah, they love your music.

[Josh]

Philly. I'd rather die.

[Mall]

Yeah, Philly would be kind of nice.

[Josh]

He signed a Motown.

[Mall]

Well, I mean, it merged. They all merged. It's musical chairs. Like, he didn't. He didn't sign to the same Motown.

[Josh]

No.

[Rory]

Rory. Oh, he was in Oakland. That wasn't even la. That was Oakland last. Oh, what dates was that? That's. No, he's in Oakland tonight.

[Mall]

Oh, yeah.

[Rory]

Well, tomorrow. Okay. He was in LA last night, though. Okay.

[Mall]

On the low. I think the Phoenix show might be the scariest because I know the Mexicans love Young Boy. That might be. It would rival between Newark and Phoenix are the scariest shows on the store.

[Rory]

Scroll down. Oh, no, hold on.

[Josh]

Chicago might.

[Rory]

Wait, hold on.

[Mall]

St. Louis, for sure.

[Josh]

Baltimore, I don't know. I'm not going to no NBA Young boy show in Baltimore. I'm cool. I'm cool.

[Rory]

Oh, no, that's Chicago. On the scary. Because he had beef with Chicago. Like, he had beef with Durkin.

[Mall]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Rory]

So, yeah, man. Hopefully, you know, I mean, hopefully nothing happens. We don't want to get no news about anything negative or crazy happening, because seeing this type of energy is just dope to see people go out and support their artists. But we know the history of him and certain Chicago artists, so.

[Josh]

Yeah, I don't know nobody from that side.

[Rory]

From what side?

[Josh]

NBA youngboy side.

[Mall]

Listen, I told you when I went to Baton Rouge a couple months ago, and she told me, oh, this. This young boy's hood. I said, could we just not be here? Then we was driving. She's like, yeah, where are you from? I was like, well, let's then. Let's take a left and a left and get the fuck out of here.

[Rory]

You scared?

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Oh, you thought I was gonna say no? Yeah, actually, the.

[Rory]

You were scared.

[Mall]

They walk around with a soul. Rifle's just out. Like, it ain't even illegal. Yeah, I don't need to be there.

[Rory]

And I could. I want to learn.

[Josh]

I want to go now. Now to prime. I want to go now.

[Rory]

I want the music. It's fake if I go now. I don't know. I don't know the music enough.

[Josh]

But that's okay, though. You actually, people, a lot of people tend to go to shows to learn new music. You don't got to go to the show and know every song.

[Rory]

Like, you got to know the music, man. That's like going to the game and not knowing who playing.

[Josh]

No, but you discover. You discover songs because a lot of songs you might put on, like, in your headphones and be like, turn this shit off. Right? But you go to the show and you see Shorty with the green hair doing all that. It's like, wait, hold on. What's this song?

[Rory]

Let me.

[Josh]

That's why you're supposed to go check out new shows, local artists, all of that stuff, man.

[Mall]

Sitting at the young boy show in the mosh pit, trying to hold your phone up for Shazam. Yeah, they gonna knock you out.

[Rory]

Who's gonna. No, I would be in the.

[Mall]

Trying to figure out the.

[Rory]

I would be in the skybox somewhere. Put me in a suite. Let me just chill up here. Look down at, you know, the real fans. I just want to hear the music and see the performance. Like, let me. I can't be in the.

[Josh]

I need to touch the fan.

[Rory]

Nah, I can't be in the. That. That's crazy.

[Mall]

What's the most dangerous show you've ever been to?

[Rory]

The most dangerous show I've ever been to.

[Mall]

Even if it turned out that way and you didn't anticipate it.

[Rory]

The most dangerous show.

[Josh]

I've never been to a dangerous show.

[Rory]

I feel like it may have been somebody at Irvin Plaza.

[Mall]

Well, not that time.

[Josh]

Oh, the Nipsey Hustle one War.

[Mall]

Them Crips in the building.

[Josh]

But I felt safe.

[Mall]

This was in New York.

[Josh]

Irvin Plaza.

[Mall]

Okay.

[Rory]

Yeah, I feel like it was. I can't remember who it was, though.

[Josh]

I felt safe, though.

[Rory]

I feel like it was Irvin Plaza.

[Mall]

Okay.

[Rory]

Might have been. I was in there. I remember having a feeling like, yeah, the energy in here is a little. It's a little tense. But never in, like, never at the Garden. I never been so sure at the Garden where I felt that.

[Mall]

Well, I mean, you did say you were in the hallway when R. Kelly walked down and violence ensued.

[Rory]

You say he.

[Mall]

That was kind of dangerous. There was a gun there, so he.

[Rory]

Didn'T want nobody looking him in his eyes.

[Mall]

And then somebody allegedly put pepper spray in his eyes.

[Rory]

Yeah, but that wasn't dangerous. That was R B. Like, that wasn't, like, dangerous.

[Mall]

I mean, speaking of Newark and Jersey in general, Hot 97 once did. Remember when they used to do those like, Next up or who's Next shows? Which I appreciate they was trying to get, like, local talent, and they did one that was just specific to Jersey with a bunch of Jersey acts. I want to say Tretch hosted it as well. That was the most violent show, I think I've Ever been that, like, they rivaled what. When Saigon, Prodigy, and all the Queensbridge fought at SOBS with that legendary footage. There was so much tension in that small, small venue.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mall]

That was probably the one time been a show where I'm like, I don't know if it's worth. Worth staying in here. Like, yeah, I'll be a bystander. Somehow in this entire show, I can't.

[Rory]

Remember who was at Irvin Plaza. Like, who was. It may have been Meek and somebody else. And I was like, yeah, this energy in here was just a little, you know. You know that energy where it's just like, the faces ain't friendly. Nobody's smiling. It's not a lot of women. You know, those shows, of course, you know, it was just like, all right, man, I'm about to let me stand close to the exit because it might.

[Mall]

Go down there, but I've told you guys the story of when I was DJing at the New Eurekan with my mans and we got into it, and I thought I was gonna die with the guys from Connecticut.

[Rory]

Yep.

[Mall]

So there was another time I was DJing for a man's that was opening up for I won't say his name. He was signed to the lock, not the locks, to D Block at the time, and we were opening up for him based off his manager's relationship with D Block. But my man's was on some singing and rapping shit. It wasn't that type of crowd. Yeah, this is like when you really got to cut your teeth and earn your keep. Like, what it's like to feel like you're dying on stage of just going record to record somebody that was affiliated with that artist twice my size in the middle of my man performing. We had, like, a intricate DJ set. I was trying to mix certain stuff. Like, we had a set, we rehearsed. It's Cubes.

[Rory]

He's waiting for this moment.

[Mall]

Like, all this entire thing over me hits the. The fader and puts it to the side and said, it's time for y'.

[Rory]

All to leave in the middle of the performance.

[Mall]

Yeah, but I had. I had. I was on vinyl, so I had two. Two things playing, so it didn't affect. Like, my man kept rapping. And it was the first time in my life where I was like, I'm about to say something that I know I'm gonna die, but I have no other option.

[Rory]

Gotta be a man.

[Mall]

Yeah, I had no other option. I know this is not going to end well. Like I said, ain't no fucking Way we got three more fucking songs. Get away from me. Let's just say we were handled outside of the building, but my man finished the set. No, handled.

[Rory]

He finished the set, though. Finish the set.

[Mall]

Handled.

[Rory]

We get beat up outside, but we finished the set though. That's all that matters.

[Mall]

And my man, who I love, did what every opening act that does because the locks are supposed to be special guests with it. With this guy as well. It was like on the flyer. So when you're just drowning in a set and it's dead quiet, we're saying like, yo, yo, get the off the stage. Yo, who's ready to see the locks? Whole crowd erupted and he said for the last song, he went, yeah, nah, cut it. Let's get the out of here. We was in there because this was 09, like when we were on the blog era type of rap. And that crowd was not trying to hear none of that shit. He was really singing. He was like, had an R B part. It was a bunch of dudes in champion hoodies waiting to see if Styles was gonna show up. It was. It was one of the crazy experiences. But no, we were physically handled.

[Rory]

Was that Toad's place? No place.

[Mall]

No, no, no, it wasn't. It was in the city. Was it at Santos? Might have been a Santos. Yeah. I'll think on it. It'll come to me.

[Rory]

No worry.

[Mall]

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[Rory]

All right, Baby D. We bought a week away.

[Josh]

We bought a week.

[Rory]

How you feeling? Excited.

[Josh]

You know, if I didn't have this job, I would feel more excited for the album because I could then just enjoy it like a normal person.

[Rory]

What do you mean? Why? You can't enjoy it?

[Josh]

No, I'm gonna enjoy it. But I don't want to have to talk about it. I don't want to have to hear critique on it. I don't want to have to defend it. I don't want to have to not defend it. I don't want to have to critique it myself. I don't want to have to do that. I just want to be.

[Rory]

Well, you don't have to critique it. You just say how you feel about the music that you heard.

[Josh]

Yeah, but I also. I don't want to have to do that on public platform. My job is my job. I love my job. I respect my job. But sometimes as a music listener or a fan of an artist, I wish I could just listen to the fucking music and not have to talk to people about it in public. That don't make sense.

[Rory]

I understand. But I mean, you can, though. Like, you don't have to think about, you know, your feelings and your perspective on what you're listening to are yours and you can say how you feel. I understand what you're saying, though. Like, you like, people gonna try to say I'm defending it. People gonna think it's wag and, you know, you don't want to go against what the masses are saying because then you look like you just, you know, capping or caping for Cardi. I get that. But it's okay to, you know, express how you feel about what you're experiencing and what you're listening.

[Josh]

Yeah, but sometimes I don't wanna, you know, sometimes I don't wanna express it. But I am looking forward to the album. I'm excited. Y' all know I love Cardi and yeah, I'm looking forward to it.

[Mall]

I think she's confident about the music. Obviously, she would promote her album no matter what. And we know vinyl sales and all the pre order stuff counts way more to Billboard than it does with streams. So she's trying to push that as much as possible so the numbers can reflect, because that matters to Cardi in that world. But I feel like she's come across as confident about this album. Like, that she really likes it.

[Rory]

So she seems like she's happy with it.

[Mall]

Yeah. But before, admittedly, I felt like, all right, this is. Is a little weird. I don't know if she feels confident about this entire thing. She's coming across like she's actually really excited for everyone here, this project. So I hope it's good.

[Rory]

Me too. I'm looking forward to it. It's been, like I said, you know, since between the first one and now. We've waited this long, but hopefully they got it to a place where the music is strong and is good. And, you know, I'm looking forward to hearing what her and her team did for sure.

[Mall]

Yeah. I don't know, man. I'm. I'm nervous for her and that's what's.

[Rory]

Nervous about what? The music not being good.

[Mall]

I, I guess it's like empathy to some degree. And that's why I think it's funny that the whole Bardi gang thinks, like, I dislike Cardi and even Cardi to some degree thinks that, like, I want this to work so well for her because this is a crossroads. No matter what, Cardi will always be a superstar. She. She has her legacy. She, like, everything is there. No, but this is a, this is a big fucking crossroads. Like, I want this to work. I want this to be a great story. I don't want it to be like, damn, this is. This ain't. This ain't it. Yeah, I'm nervous. I'm nervous for her. This is a, A bigger moment. Shit, even. I know they said don't compare all women rappers, but I'm not even doing it because she's a woman. I'm just comparing Nikki on her last project. I was so happy to see that it just did really well because it's, it's hard to do that all the time. Time, no matter what Nikki's legacy is that it could have flopped and be like, that's still Nikki. Don't get it twisted right. I was happy to see that it did really well. I was happy to see that she did an arena tour. And it's so crazy. Like, I, yeah, I don't want to see people that have been in the game this long to just for it to fail because that's a crossroads. How old is Cardi? She's younger than me. This is like when I feel for running backs. Like, yeah, they make it what a running of running backs career is, is on average. How many years do you think maybe.

[Rory]

Three, four you get.

[Mall]

You get in league on average at 22 years old, you could be a legend and only get to 28 years old. Now you on earth at 28 years old with no career and all you've ever done your whole life was this. Yeah, like I, I feel that same way with, with rappers and a listers in this regard. Like, if it flopped, like, what do you do?

[Rory]

Well, I mean, either way, Cardi will be fine. You know what I mean?

[Mall]

But for sure, but it's, it's definitely A big. It's a big moment. This is probably the biggest. Biggest moment for her.

[Rory]

But it's. But it's a huge moment because, again, coming off of the success of the first one, and then everything she's done, everything she's done in between that, all of the things that she's accomplished between albums. So obviously, this is why the moment is so big and people are anticipating it because she's a superstar. But I think that she seems like. She seems like she's happy, she's comfortable. She had some legal things she had to kind of deal with in between the rollout. That kind of like, you know, seemed like it would affect a little bit, but she seems like she's past that, moved on. And, you know, I like everything she's doing as far as rolling it out. And, you know, she was in Harlem with the vinyls on a blanket on the sidewalk selling, you know, vinyls and things like that. So I think she looks like she's happy with the product.

[Mall]

If the first. And again, why I'm nervous if the first one floppy, it would have been okay. I told y', all, she's a reality TV star like that try to make music like, what did y' all think.

[Rory]

This was gonna be if this one?

[Mall]

But it wasn't that. She proved everybody wrong.

[Rory]

Absolutely.

[Mall]

And now it's like, all right, you're establish the stuff now it's. It's game time for real. So, you know, I. I hope it's great. I'm on the same side as Damaris. Like, I just want it to be good. I don't want to have to come in here and say bad things. That's really. I want it to be good music.

[Rory]

I think it's gonna be good music.

[Mall]

I feel the same way about Ice Cube. I mean, if this album that comes out tomorrow, like, what do we say about Ice Cube's legacy? If this doesn't.

[Rory]

This does nothing for Ice Cube. Ice Cube is Ice Cube legend.

[Mall]

Like, what do you really think about death certificate after nwa, all the movies.

[Rory]

This affects nothing.

[Mall]

No, I think this is. This is the determining factor. Crossroads for Ice Cube, in my opinion.

[Rory]

Absolutely. Now, Cube is Cube, man. We not. This needs this. This probably just man up. No means nothing.

[Mall]

I would have loved. And I know it's not. You know, I know Cube has his own business, great businessman. I would have liked Cube to be part of this mass appeal year now that he's putting out. Like, I think that would have been cool to have that. That full west coast type thing with the legacy acts that they're doing. Because, I mean, I can't stop listening. That supreme clientele 2. What mass appeal is doing is great. I would have liked Cube to be. Because we don't have a Cuban Nas record.

[Rory]

Nope.

[Mall]

I just think the Mass Appeal touch on this. By that, I mean Nas could have been really cool with Q putting out music this year. That would have been like the big missing piece to me. And everything that they're. They're doing.

[Rory]

I hate that people don't really understand who Ice Cube is as like an artist, a rapper. Like, people don't really don't know. Like, a lot of people know Ice Cube for movies and film and things like that. And, you know, obviously the big three, he's been able to do with that. But, like, people don't really know. Like, Ice Cube was like, he represented the West Coast. Like, he's one of the greatest from the West Coast. I mean, hip hop period. But like, what he did for California and that sound obviously nwa, but like, as a solo artist, Cuba is like, you know, a legend in every sense of the word. Obviously now being a older guy and you know, still being able to have his feet under him as far as like an ear for music, things like that. I don't think he'll ever lose that and. And be able to write. But people not gonna respect. Like, if people listen to this now and the project is, they're like, man, Ice Cube is trash. Like, if they. This is their first time hearing.

[Mall]

I have no connection to what his legs rapping.

[Rory]

They have no idea who Ice Cube is.

[Mall]

Like, maybe, maybe they heard today was.

[Rory]

A good day, but maybe they heard that, but they don't really know. They don't. They don't. They don't know.

[Mall]

I mean, I think everyone younger than me, the first record they probably heard from Ice Cube was I could do it. Put you back into it. Like, that's. That's probably.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mall]

Which is kind of like nuts. Like, you got to know this guy's history. America's from the nwa, the death certificate.

[Rory]

Like Lynch Mob, all that. Like.

[Mall]

Yeah, but that. Who else do you think that happens with? I think that happens with ll. I think that happens with. With. I'm not comparing Will Smith to LL&Q by any means, but I think when just people get to the Hollywood status that way. Yeah, it kind of erases. Like, do you really know this?

[Rory]

Yeah. Like, what he did with music. Yeah.

[Mall]

Like, even the younger people and. And I'm not here to make political, but when everyone was Killing Ice Cube. When he sat with Tucker, I was like, all right, guys, you guys know who Ice Cube. Like, the risks he's taken. Yeah, this is somebody that's really walked it. Like, they talked it, like. Like, you can't. If Cube is doing something, it's intentional, and he knows what the fuck he's doing. You can't put that on Cube.

[Rory]

They tried to cancel Cube for wanting to sit down with Trump. People were active, like, oh, Ice Cube is canceled. I'm like, do y' all know who y' all trying to cancel? Like, y' all trying to cancel Ice Cube. Like, what Y'. All. Y' all clearly don't know who Ice Cube is.

[Mall]

You have no idea the risks he's taking.

[Rory]

Yeah, they don't know Ice Cube.

[Mall]

He had. This isn't the way. Ye. Was just trying to have a moment by taking a photo in front of the elevator with Trump, not saying a word. No, this is somebody's vocal forever. Like, he's here to actually try to.

[Rory]

Make some change on something from the time he came in the game. Yeah, like, that's what he represented was like, you know, going against whatever was in place, whatever government policies, things like that, you know, being a voice for the people in the community that he. From. That he represents the things that, you know, we had to deal with. Like, so, you know, when people tried to. That lets you know that they don't know Ice Cube. They just got introduced to him a few years ago. They don't really know the things that Ice Cube represents and what he's done and what he's continuing to do as far as, you know, break down barriers and create opportunities for people that look like him and come from the places that he come from. Like, this is something that Ice Cube has represented forever. So.

[Josh]

But that happens a lot with. Sorry, Rory. With, like, just cancel culture. When it comes to people's insertion and politics. Like, half of the people don't even understand the politics that they're trying to cancel people over. And this isn't me standing up for Trump in no way. I don't want those two things to get conflicted. But a lot of people are just canceling what. What their side of the news says that they should cancel. Like, there's no nuance in these conversations. There's no, like, who is the right person to talk to this person about this issue. It's just. Everything is just so black and white or red and blue, and people don't know what the fuck they're talking about. It's like, there's depth to knowledge, depth to nuance. Like, not even just in politics and music and everything. Like, no one takes the time to do research before they just throw an opinion out or throw a fake cancellation out there. It's, it's absolutely.

[Mall]

Yeah. Because, I mean, I think I'm just going to trust that the man that wrote the entire record, the police in 1988, has good intentions.

[Rory]

Right.

[Mall]

In anything he's doing. Somebody in 1990 that named their album America's Most Wanted with three Ks.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mall]

Like, I'm just going to go ahead.

[Rory]

And I think he knows what he's doing.

[Mall]

Like, I think, I think his intentions are pretty pure in what is going on. One, But Cube, I mean, to y', all, I'm a little young for I think Cube is great. But your generation, I've noticed with people your age, anytime we do the debates of, like, top fives, top, top 10, your whole generation always has cube it within seven, I've noticed.

[Rory]

Oh, yeah.

[Mall]

Like, y' all from 80 to, to 84, y' all revere Cube in, like, a whole different level. I, I, I with Cube, but I was a little young, I had to go back to all that and I wasn't there for, for it. So of course I respect and love Q, but I wouldn't put him in my personal top 10. Like, I was just banging Cube all the time. Y' all generation, he's God.

[Rory]

Like, I mean, the reason why, even if you go look at his films and things like that, we go look at the Friday series, the reason why Friday was such a big film is because Cube was such a big.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Deal. Like, he was a big name.

[Mall]

He was, I mean, boys in the hood before.

[Rory]

Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like, even boys in the hood, like, those were monumental films because, I mean, obviously the storyline and things like that were great as well. But Ice Cube being the figure, being the face of those moments in those films, that's why those things happened. Because it was like, dawg, that's Ice Cube. Like, he was all of the guys that y' all think are, like, big and superstars now. Like, Ice Cube was that times 10 in the 90s, like, shit, the 80s even. Like, he was that. And to see what he's continuing to do now and film and in business and things like that, you know, I think it's just incredible and speaks to, you know, the guy that had the mind back then at such a young age of creating his own way and his own opportunity and doing it his way. So salute to Cube, man.

[Mall]

Yeah. And even to close, I'm here to say the way we talk about Jamie Foxx and how talented he is and how like how many hands he has in so many things, creatively, I don't think it's crazy to say that Cube is not. Not close to that status as well of every box that he's checked when it comes to creativity, because he was not only acting in those, he was writing those movies to. He's producing those movies. He could be funny, he could be a serious actor. Rap career. We already know what's over there. Like I. Cube is up there as one of the most talented people that I've ever seen in my life.

[Rory]

Absolutely.

[Mall]

Yeah. I think Cube needs to get brought in that, that Jamie conversation sometimes.

[Rory]

Absolutely.

[Mall]

I mean, he's not like he didn't do Ray.

[Rory]

Yeah. He's not the.

[Mall]

Also Jamie is not the, the. The musician that, that Cube has been. So.

[Rory]

Ah.

[Mall]

You cannot compare Ice Cube's catalog from N.W.A. to his solo catalog.

[Josh]

You said he's not the musician and I'm just like the guy that plays the. In instruments and can also sing and can also write music.

[Rory]

We're.

[Josh]

We're not going to dumb down Jamie Foxx's artistry or musicianship.

[Rory]

No, no.

[Mall]

Who's doing that?

[Josh]

I'm just saying he's not the musician that he is. When I hear musician, I hear music musicianship. Like, I don't. Rapping and musicianship are two different things. I just wanted to clarify that.

[Mall]

Fair. But let's not act. Even when like Cube was working with Bomb Squad, when he was working with Dre and Yellow, you can see the difference when Cube works with producers as well. Cube is definitely very much involved and oh, for sure. And you know, not to take anything away from MC Ren because I think MC Ren is very much underrated Every. Every iconic like easy verse pre before the split. That's Cube. The Dre, that's Cube. Cube's own solo verses don't even need to get into. Cube is one of the greatest writers that's ever assisted in rap history.

[Rory]

No, you just said musician.

[Mall]

And then writing and musicianship very, very similar to some 100. Yeah. So I understand what Demer is saying with pushback there. But if we're talking music, Cube surpasses Jamie Foxx's not close. Close acting. Of course Jamie Foxx surpasses Cube and it's not close, but they're. They're both in the realm of both of those higher than any of their peers.

[Josh]

Yeah, for sure.

[Rory]

Did Ice Cube have us. Would. Did he have a tv? Was he in the TV show? Did he have a sitcom?

[Mall]

I feel like maybe a season or something possibly.

[Rory]

I feel like I've seen.

[Josh]

Or maybe we just feel like he should have been in one.

[Mall]

And you know what are we there yet?

[Josh]

Turned into a sitcom.

[Mall]

Okay.

[Josh]

And it ran for three seasons on cbs.

[Rory]

Okay. I know, I know. I remember seeing Cube on like tv other than film. Like I. I just can't remember what it was.

[Mall]

And listen, I actually kind of take back the acting that Jamie's far better. Of course, Jamie Foxx is better than Ice Cube at that. Like Ice Cube's never done array but go through Cube's filmography like. Like it's a think a little closer than people would would say between comedy and serious stuff. I mean boys in the hood to begin with. I. Barbershop. I know it turned into. By the third one it got into like the to be. But let's not act like Barbershop1 was not a classic, extremely well acted movie.

[Rory]

Barbershop too.

[Mall]

Yeah, no, Barbershop 2 is. Is great even on, I don't know, like from CB4 to Friday to next Friday, all those. Like to be that good at comedy and then also that good at serious acting. Let's not say that he's that far off. He doesn't have the blockbusters that Jamie does. But that's a good actor.

[Rory]

No, absolutely.

[Josh]

No, he's definitely. Nobody's saying he's not a good actor.

[Rory]

Absolutely.

[Josh]

It's just he also tends to kind of, I don't want to say play the same role, but similar. Like because Ice Cube has that angry ass face. Most of the things he plays in, they're casting him as an angry person because of the way that his face is. That's just.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Like no matter what the role, man was serious, serious. Even in his comedics in Friday he was funny, but he wasn't the comedy.

[Mall]

Well, he always even all about the Benjamins. He would play the more serious guy to Mike Epps the way he would with Chris. Chris Tucker still.

[Rory]

But he still had he's hilarious moments.

[Mall]

Oh, he's. Yeah, he's hilarious.

[Josh]

He's hilarious naturally. But the character that he's playing tends to be a typ cast angry, more serious character. That just is what it is. Like it doesn't say anything about his acting ability. It's just he hasn't really had the range to stretch that out. Like I don't watch Ice Cube and forget that I'm watching Ice Cube, but I can watch Jamie Foxx and forget that I'm watching.

[Mall]

Oh, for sure. I mean, yeah, no, I hear you there, but even I think it's a stat, too, that Friday Players club next Friday, all about the Benjamins. Friday after next, janky promoters. He wrote all of those, too.

[Josh]

Fire.

[Mall]

Like that's. That's a different talent. And crazy and Barbershop. I felt like they brought him more of the softer role in that. Like he wasn't. He wasn't Cube and all those other ones.

[Rory]

He wasn't like.

[Mall]

No, but he didn't play Ricky like, he played. He played the comic guy. Like, yo, stop. Like, I. Yeah, stop the. So I don't know. I mean, I'm glad we got on a. Give Ice Cube his flowers rant.

[Josh]

He deserves them. Go Ice Cube.

[Mall]

Yeah. And I believe the album's called man up, which is out now. If you're listening to this, I'm definitely going to listen to it. Do we have voicemails?

[Rory]

You've got mail.

[Mall]

And of course, they are sponsored by Boost. That's how everyone even called in from Austin, Texas, rapping.

[Rory]

Yes. For Rory. How you feel about your boy Conor McGregor running for President for Ireland? One, you think he's qualified, and two, if Trump could get elected over here. Do you think he could get elected? Let me know. Greg is running for president. Where?

[Mall]

In Ireland.

[Rory]

Really?

[Mall]

Oh, I. I can't quite answer this. Of his qualifications because all he's been saying is I'm running for president. He hasn't given us a stance. I don't know his policy between Northern Ireland. I haven't like now, to your point of anyone get elected? Trump was a real estate guy, then to a reality TV star, became a celebrity, then became that. I'm not saying anyone can get elected. Ronald Reagan was an actor. The Terminator became a fucking governor. Anything is possible.

[Rory]

Right.

[Mall]

I just, I don't know where what Conor's stances are. Maybe he's really into political science. I don't know.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mall]

But the only thing I've seen is I'm running for president and Azalea Banks, here's my dick. It's like the only two things that I've seen for this rollout I'm not.

[Rory]

Familiar with, you know, politics over in Ireland, but I don't know if Conor has a shot.

[Josh]

Like, legally, he qualifies, but I mean, legally, most people qualify.

[Mall]

Legally, I qualify in America.

[Josh]

Hey, I'm just.

[Mall]

Does that mean I should run?

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mall]

No.

[Rory]

Yeah. I don't know.

[Mall]

No, I, I, if we're being serious. Of course not. But the Irish politics, I mean, they do need. Not to be corny. They do need people that are going to push back and fight. Like, even if you get down to the. Well, he can fight the Israel and Palestine conflict. You know, Ireland has always been the only western country that has always stood with Palestine. It's a country that has to push back on a lot because all of our allies being other white countries, we don't align with the same agreements, obviously, which goes to our history, which we still can't even get that sliver of Northern Ireland back from. From you Brits. Yeah, you, I mean, you need somebody strong. I'm just, I just don't know if McGregor, like, just running in there. Yeah.

[Rory]

Is the answer.

[Mall]

I don't know if that's the guy.

[Josh]

He's pushing a lot. He's facing a lot of pushback because Conor McGregor has rape cases and allegations, so one that he lost a civil case, so.

[Mall]

So does our, our current president.

[Josh]

Yeah, I know. I'm just saying that he's, this is.

[Rory]

Why he's facing profile at this point. Like, I think you need one that's kind of like, nobody cares.

[Mall]

They don't trust the leader unless he has those cases.

[Rory]

Yeah. Like, is he a real person? Like, yeah, no, no.

[Mall]

I, I mean, I think why McGregor, outside of being a talented fighter, why he made it even further, is because he's a very talented marketer. I think that's the same reason Mayweather was like, I'll even do this UFC boxing with you. Like, all right, fine, I'll let a UFC guy box me. Because you are a promoter. You know how to do this. That's all. This, that's all he's doing.

[Rory]

Okay.

[Mall]

I don't think he's seriously running, but I said the same thing about Trump. So who. They'll pull this clip back in five years and at his inauguration, so I don't know. Anything's possible. Yeah, literally anything's possible.

[Rory]

No, that's. Actually, that call was for you. I have nothing to say. I didn't even know he was running.

[Mall]

But what is the St Thomas government? Do you think Tim Duncan can run?

[Rory]

He's from St. Croix Story.

[Mall]

Oh, why do I always think he's from St. Thomas?

[Rory]

Because you just hear saint and just think it's.

[Mall]

No, that's not true.

[Rory]

Yes, that's. You're dyslexic, so, you know, you think everything is just.

[Mall]

Well, then I'd call it Thomas Saint. Lil Saint Little Saint Thomas rest in peace.

[Rory]

Saint Odds just talked about Cube. See how that ties together?

[Mall]

Fair. Well, yeah. I think Tim Dunkey could make a run, I'm sure.

[Rory]

Yeah, absolutely. He's probably the biggest export out of St. Croix ever. So. I mean, mean, definitely. I don't know if he will, though. He doesn't. I don't think he has the person, not. Not personality, but he's very mild mannered, soft spoken. I don't think politics.

[Mall]

That's what they need out there.

[Rory]

But I don't think Tim Duncan. Now that's. That's nice thing.

[Josh]

What state do y' all think would allow y' all to be like, mayor or governor? Like Arnold Schwarzenegger.

[Rory]

Who.

[Mall]

I want to make sure everyone knows that. Daeris said that. And I didn't think.

[Josh]

It's Arnold Schwarzenegger, right?

[Rory]

Arnold Schwarzer. Arnold Schwarzenegger.

[Josh]

Oh, it's Nager.

[Rory]

Yes.

[Josh]

Oh, I always thought it was nagger. Like. Like the. I didn't know that E was a. A. I thought it was a. So I thought it was naker it anyway. Arnold Arnie. Yeah, the Terminator. Do y' all think y' all could be mayor or governor in any state? In any state. Like how he was.

[Mall]

No.

[Rory]

No.

[Josh]

Really?

[Mall]

I don't even think I could be the head of the block Club in my neighborhood.

[Josh]

Like the Block Club.

[Rory]

What? The Neighborhood Watch. You could be. You could be president. Neighborhood Watch much?

[Mall]

There was never black clubs. You walk like the president blocks that, like, try to like, have one person that would go to the alder. But like, all that. They'd represent your. Your street to go talk to people. They weren't really elected, but it was a club. Yeah, it was. It was more like. No, not. Not Neighborhood Watch. It would just be people on your street that there would be one person that'd be like, all right. You are the one that goes to the meetings to talk about our specific.

[Rory]

No, that was the Latin Kings in my hood. That was.

[Josh]

Yo.

[Mall]

Yes.

[Rory]

I had to go over there them. You mean make sure it was good. Pull over here. The Bloods, the Crips. Like, I don't know what you talk about. Like, that's. I.

[Mall]

And they went to the community meetings to talk about the potholes in the street.

[Rory]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Mall]

Yeah. Okay. All right, cool.

[Rory]

No, just the pot in the streets. Not the potholes. It was different. Not the potholes.

[Mall]

No. I don't even think I could do that. I have been getting. Since I've been a homeowner, though I do go to way more community meetings. And that's just strictly because I think I'm a homeowner. And like now you kind of have to. Yeah, I need to know what it really, like, affects the property value of this entire thing. Like, I'm sick of this.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mall]

Like, we need to cut all these phone wires. This is insane. The Verizon guy, it took three hours just for him to sift through the thousands of wires that aren't even connected. Like, what's going on?

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mall]

So, I mean, yeah, I could be part of that, but I don't think I have the time for it, like, to be ahead of that.

[Rory]

No, no. Too much much.

[Josh]

What if that's paying well? They usually don't though, right?

[Rory]

They're not. No politics. Politicians don't get paid well unless they have going on outside of actual.

[Josh]

No, I mean, they all get paid well, but it's not technically from their.

[Mall]

Politicians do not get paid well. But anybody that enters Congress, Senate, President, uc, for some like, really weird reason, their net worth quadruple once they get that position. But they only get paid 200 grand. President gets paid what? Like 400 grand grand. Which is a lot of money, don't get me twisted. But to be the leader of the richest nation, 400 grand is not a lot because you know, you're getting your money otherwise.

[Rory]

And then you can buy an 8 million dollar house in Martha's Vineyard. Who's counting?

[Mall]

Can we look up. Can we look up what Nancy Pelosi is paid per year? And then can we look at Nancy Pelosi's net worth? Let's. Can we compare those two?

[Rory]

Now that's. Now. No, that's the top it. Yeah. He want to get into it and.

[Mall]

Sorry, Nance, I'm not just using you because it's everybody but yours is.

[Josh]

Nancy is like, is like pay, pay my. Make bread.

[Mall]

Let's see what AI says here. 174 per year, which is great money. Great, great money. Can we now type in what her net worth is?

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Well, maybe she was gifted a house by her family.

[Rory]

Gifted. I love when they say gifted.

[Mall]

She is worth $7 million.

[Josh]

Investments.

[Rory]

Investments.

[Josh]

Real estate.

[Mall]

Why is it when anytime lawmakers enter in there, all of a sudden their network just goes out of here? It goes. I just, I don't get it.

[Rory]

I know who does get it and he's making changes. He's. He's ringing the bell on all that.

[Mall]

Wasn't there one president that like, wanted to make a statement was like, I only want to take a penny per year and we was like dog. But we know how much you make. Like oh my God, just take the $400,000 salary. Don't insult my intelligence this much so I don't think anyone would have a Stimaris. That's all I'm saying.

[Josh]

I mean, I agree, but I was.

[Mall]

Just wondering if you guys Nah, we can make change. It's easy to make change. You just talk about it and don't do nothing.

[Rory]

Exactly.

[Mall]

You just yell really loud.

[Rory]

Show up at show up at events in the city and put on a little hat that represents the the union.

[Mall]

Oh, I thought you were going to a different place. Maybe that's the cue to end this. When you said little hat, I was like, oh, are we going there?

[Rory]

Be safe, be blessed. I'm that he's just Jewish Peace. No worry about.

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[Josh]

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