New Rory & MAL - Episode 407 | "Talent Show"

Date: September 19, 2025
Hosts: Rory, Mal, Dame, Damaris
Podcast: iHeartPodcasts and The Volume

Overview

Episode 407 of New Rory & Mal, titled "Talent Show", brings comical banter and sharp cultural commentary around recent hot topics: the release of Cardi B’s highly-anticipated album, viral moments from Dame Dash's wild new Breakfast Club appearance, thoughts on appropriate workplace flirting, and the unglamorous grind of "local rappers" aiming for stardom. The hosts toggle between music critique, relationship talk, and messy internet moments, always keeping the laughs—and subtle life advice—flowing.

Main Discussion Points & Insights

1. Cardi B’s New Album Drops: Tracklists, Features, and First Reactions

[04:04 - 12:23]

• The team imagines listeners are probably bumping Cardi B’s new album rather than their show:
  • Ma: “I mean, instant classic out the gate with the summer. I think the summer intro rivals Dreams and Nightmares.” (04:21)
• They analyze the fictional (or speculated) tracklist, debating the realness of features like Janet Jackson:
  • Dame: “Janet Jackson has never featured on a woman’s record ever in life. Ever.” (05:44)
  • The debate over what counts as a “feature”—actual vocals, or just a sample (using Jay-Z/Kanye’s "Otis" as an example).
• Criticism of “Imaginary Player” as a single:
  • Dame: “That record came and went as much as the hype was for... I don’t hear that record. I don’t feel that record.” (07:17)
  • Ma argues maybe it’s just out of Dame’s music scene, while Rory looks forward to the Tyler and Kehlani collabs.

Notable Quote:

• Ma: “Congrats to Cardi. Getting out an album is very hard. Congrats on the pregnancy.” (12:10)

2. Cardi B’s Pregnancy and Touring After Baby

[12:23 - 16:59]

• Discussion about the logistics and public reaction to Cardi’s pregnancy and imminent tour:
  • Rory: "When is the baby due? Because... what’s going on if I’m buying tour tickets?" (12:23)
  • Is the tour a lock with a newborn? Mal and Dame discuss how manageable this is for someone with Cardi’s resources and fanbase.
  • Joking about possible names for the child—“Culture” was inspired by Migos; maybe the next will be “Drama".
  • The cyclical nature of musicians’ and athletes’ personal lives feeding internet narratives.

3. The Local Rapper Grind & Talent Shows

[20:52 - 26:18]

• Jokes about local rappers flooding their DMs and staying “local” forever:
  • Ma: “Some of them have been local my entire life.” (21:07)
• Open mics versus high school talent shows and their place for aspiring artists.
• Touching story about open mic nights in NYC—Elle Varner goes from coat check girl to stealing the show:
  • Ma: “Elvara had two notes, he was like, yeah, it’s over.” (25:45)

Notable Quote:

• Rory: “If you’ve been doing it for 10 years and no motion has come, you need to get a job.” (21:50)

4. Critiquing Kids’ Hopes and the Value of Honest Feedback

[26:36 - 28:40]

• Should grown-ups tell teenagers at talent shows to quit if they have no shot?
  • Rory: “If you’re doing this to be successful, I’d say you should probably stop.” (27:12)
  • Referencing Jerry Seinfeld’s method: “You won’t make it, you’re trash, you’re awful... If that stops somebody, they wouldn’t have made it anyway.” (27:23)

5. Relationships, Virginity, and Growing Up (with the Typical New Rory & Mal Edge)

[28:43 - 35:38]

• Where people lose their virginity, “cool moms,” and generational differences:
  • Dame: "Girls don’t lose their virginity in their house. Like, if she has both parents, that does not happen." (30:22)
  • Ma: "Cool mom's basement is where virginities go to be taken. Souls of virginities right under the concrete." (30:48)
• Old-fashioned standards vs. modern expectations for sex and relationships.
  • Rory: “Would y’all want to be locked in with the first person y’all had sex with?” (32:56)
• The hosts riff on the pitfalls of waiting for marriage, generational differences, and learning about yourself through dating.

6. Dame Dash Goes Viral on Breakfast Club: The Chairman Chaos

[41:58 - 53:41]

• Recap of Dame Dash’s explosive new Breakfast Club interview:
  • Ma: "Anytime Charlemagne said anything, Dame would say 'That’s because you’re gay.'" (43:00)
  • Chaos, confusion about Dame’s claims of being “chairman” at Revolt.
  • The antics—Dame standing, running laps, dismissing official statements about his status at Revolt.
• The viral energy and its impact:
  • Dame: "That Revolt shit, yo, if that never happens, that he's the fucking chairman, that’s gonna make this episode even more of a classic." (53:41)
• Frustration about personal beefs between Dame and Cam’ron spilling into the public.
  • Ma: “You’re wrong for reaching out to Dame’s son to pay him to either come on the show, do something. Nah, this is between me and you.” (55:42)

Notable Quote:

• Ma: “How do you argue with someone and when you ask a valid question, the only response is 'it’s because you’re gay?'” (48:06)

7. Interpersonal Boundaries: Kids, Internet Beefs, and Privacy

[58:00 - 60:45]

• The crew draws a hard line at involving kids in adult disputes, expressing discomfort with using family as chess pieces in public feuds.
• Worries about OGs setting the wrong example for the younger generation with messy, personal internet spats.

8. Respect in the Studio: Flirting and Kicking Out Guests

[70:22 - 79:01]

• Cam’ron kicks boxer Adrian Broner off his show for disrespectfully flirting with co-host Stat Baby (“her man is here!”):
  • Dame: “Her boyfriend is present ... you gotta, clearly, Adrian wasn’t in the most clearest of minds.” (71:24)
• The right and wrong ways to handle disrespectful guests—professionalism, accountability, and not talking smack behind someone’s back.
  • Rory: “If you gonna say it, say it while he’s there … like, yo, get out the room, you fucking junkie!” (74:38)

9. Dating, Side-Dude Logic, and Cheating Confessions

[79:01 - 86:40]

• The side-dude mentality, picking up on cheating cues, and debates about who’s really at fault for dishonesty.
  • Rory: “You too are a piece of shit.” (81:45)
• Jokes about potential "blood sacrifices" required just to cheat in a relationship, and the futile justifications some men/women use to clear their own conscience post-breakup.

10. Hilarious Mailbag: Paying for Amateur Porn & Spam Calls

[88:14 - 94:41]

• Listener asks if the hosts have ever paid for a porn site:
  • Rory: “Don’t tell me to keep up the grind when you’re asking about my porn.” (89:34)
  • They almost shame the caller for paying for low-quality “desperate amateur” porn.
• Discussion veers toward modern spam calls and how easy it is for marketers (and scammers) to get your info.

11. Closing Banter: Romantic Gestures and The Cardi “Let Me Heal You” Meme

[94:55 - END]

• The crew ponders female equivalents to the classic “forehead kiss,” then riff on Cardi B revealing Stefon Diggs’ romantic opening line as “let me heal you.”
• Decides it’s Patreon content fodder.

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Ma: “Cool mom's basement is where virginities go to be taken. Souls ... right under the concrete.” (30:48)
• Rory: “Would y’all want to be locked in with the first person y’all had sex with?” (32:56)
• Ma: “How do you argue with someone and ... the only response they have at that point is, ‘It’s because you’re gay?’” (48:06)
• Dame: "That Revolt shit, yo, if that never happens ... that he’s the fucking chairman, that’s gonna make this episode even more of a classic." (53:41)
• Ma: "Congrats to Cardi. Getting out of album is very hard. Congrats on the pregnancy." (12:10)

Timestamps for Key Segments

| Topic | Start | End | |------------------------------------------|-----------|-----------| | Cardi B album talk & tracklist analysis | 04:04 | 12:23 | | Cardi’s pregnancy and tour | 12:23 | 16:59 | | Local rappers & talent show stories | 20:52 | 26:18 | | Brutal advice for young artists | 26:36 | 28:40 | | Virginity, cool moms, dating lessons | 28:43 | 35:38 | | Dame Dash’s viral Breakfast Club moment | 41:58 | 53:41 | | Dame & Cam'ron feud ethics | 55:03 | 60:45 | | Handling disrespectful guests | 70:22 | 79:01 | | Cheating, side-dudes, relationship lies | 79:01 | 86:40 | | Mailbag: porn, kinks, and spam calls | 88:14 | 94:41 | | Forehead kisses/Cardi’s “let me heal you”| 94:55 | End |

Tone & Style

The episode is trademark New Rory & MAL:

• Casual, irreverent, occasionally raunchy.
• Blunt, but affectionate honesty about music, relationships, and internet culture.
• Frequent pop-culture references and inside jokes (especially about hip hop, social media, and NYC life).
• The team often derails into funny, real-life anecdotes, always circling back to wider themes about success, embarrassment, loyalty, and the value of self-awareness.

Summary

Episode 407 gives listeners a peek behind the music-industry curtain (Cardi B’s album, Dame Dash’s media stunts), while exploring universal truths about ambition, honesty, and messy, hilarious personal lives. Whether you're a local rapper grinding on open mic nights, a celebrity dealing with public drama, or just dodging spam calls, New Rory & Mal is here to make it all feel like part of the show.