New Rory & Mal — Episode 409 | Buttman
Podcast by iHeartPodcasts and The Volume
Release date: September 26, 2025
Brief Overview
In this lively episode, Rory, Mal, Damaris, and Peach serve up classic New Rory & Mal energy—riffing on the state of the economy, social media consumption, OnlyFans, and personal spending; trading hilarious memories about 90s adult magazines; debating relationships, birthdays, and cruise vacations; and analyzing the latest hip-hop releases and industry moves. As always, they balance playful banter and hot takes with honest reflections on culture, money, and friendship. This episode delivers sharp wit and social commentary wrapped in the effortless chemistry fans love.
Key Discussion Points & Insights
1. Social Media Consumption & Modern Shopping Culture
[03:09 - 06:35]
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TikTok as Live Shopping Platform:
- Peach describes TikTok Live as the new Home Shopping Network, with people staging sales marathons (03:27).
- Damaris expresses incredulity about the economy's state—everyone says we’re in a recession, but people are constantly buying (04:46).
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Impulse Buying and Consumer Debt:
- Damaris admits falling victim to Instagram ads, accumulating “useless shit” (04:46).
- Peach jokes about spending money she doesn’t have via "Klarna, Affirm, PayPal Pay in 4"—“People are spending money they don’t have…Queen of it” (05:19).
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The "Incel Economy" Metaphor:
- The group riffs on the term “incel” being repurposed for people addicted to online consumption and isolated in digital lives (06:42).
- Peach clarifies the real definition: “Unable to attract women sexually…hostile views towards women.” (07:09)
Notable Quote:
"We buy more than we work." – Damaris (05:56)
2. OnlyFans, Selling Online, and Shifting Hustle Culture
[05:53 - 06:35]
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Big Money on OnlyFans:
- “Shorty says she made 80 million on OnlyFans”—Rory can’t get over it (05:53), leading to laughter about online entrepreneurship.
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Live Selling & Million-Dollar Deals:
- Damaris: “People making a million dollars selling houses they've never even seen before. They're saying, just buy the couch, because they get a check.” (06:03)
3. Nostalgia: 90s Adult Magazines & Humorous Memories
[08:00 - 09:21]
- Discussion of now-vintage porn mags (“Black Tail,” “Buttman”), with the group joking about who learned what from which publications.
- Rory: "That's like Black Tail, y'all remember Black Tail magazine?" (08:13)
- Buttman/Batman magazine jokes; Damaris shares stories of stealing magazines from her cousin’s house (08:57).
Hilarious Exchange:
Peach: “One of your aunties on [Black Tail] for sure.” (08:33)
4. Tricks, “Hoes,” and Dating Dynamics
[09:52 - 11:59]
- Rory complains that rumors of him being “cheap” on the pod are affecting his dating life.
- Discussion of the difference between being cheap and not being a “trick.”
- Peach: “And I'm not a hoe. I just don't fuck for free.” (11:40)
- The panel riffs on “trick or treat” wordplay and the linguistics of sex work.
5. Birthday Love & Getting Older
[14:05 - 16:31]
- Celebration of a birthday (presumably Rory’s or Mal’s twin).
- Peach compliments Rory: “You don’t look your age.” (15:22)
- Reflections on aging:
- Rory: “Like, I've been on this earth for many, many years. Right. I was born in the 1900s, baby.” (15:02)
- Joking about health, "Buttman year," and colonoscopies:
- Damaris: "I think it might be the year. Might be your colonoscopy. It might be your Buttman year." (16:07)
6. Health, Drugs, and Fentanyl Dangers
[17:02 - 19:43]
- “Tylenol’s making everybody autistic”—hyperbolic discussion about everyday toxins, pharmaceuticals, and the unpredictability of health consequences (17:02).
- Discussion of a local news story about an escort allegedly killing three people with fentanyl—deep concerns about drug adulteration and escalating risk in social interactions (18:03).
7. Sex Work, Pricing, and “What If” Fantasies
[20:48 - 22:54]
- Rory asks if all women have ever thought about selling sex “at least once or twice.”
- Peach: “Every time the rent comes, it's like, God damn, why I couldn't just be a bitch that sell pussy every 29th of the month?” (21:07)
- Damaris and Peach discuss curiosity about “market value” and sex work pricing.
- Rory: “How humbling is it though, if you, if you was trying to sell sex and nobody bought it?” (21:35)
8. Strip Clubs and “Show Hole” Laws
[23:25 - 23:55]
- Jokes about differences between New York and other cities’ strip clubs and their rules (“You can't even show hole in New York. I want to see hole when I go to the strip club.” – Rory, 23:35.)
- Allegedly, in private rooms, it’s another story.
9. Cruises, Birthday Traditions, and Family Dynamics
[26:31 - 33:34]
- Reflects on the pain of party buses and boat/party cruises as adult birthday parties.
- Rory: “Somebody give me a party bus for my birthday. We are no longer friends.” (27:02)
- Damaris tells a story about a frat brother falling into Hudson River filth during a Kappa cruise (28:19).
- Family cruise stories, including Peach being left behind and rescued by a tugboat as a teen (29:14).
- Debates about optimal cruise destinations—tropical islands vs. Alaska (“Who wants to go to Alaska?” – Rory, 31:04)
- Damaris advocates for glacier cruises for the scenic experience; others are skeptical.
10. Song of the Summer Debate & Hip-Hop One-Hit Wonders
[39:47 - 44:17]
- The group debates the 2025 “Song of the Summer.” Candidates:
- “Shake It to the Max” by Shenseea (“that's the song I heard the most in parties this year” – Peach, 40:29)
- “Somebody Loves Me” by Drake & Party
- Chris Brown/Bryson Tiller track “Nokia”
- Billboard and Spotify lists (41:17).
- Discussion of “Tweaker” by LiAngelo Ball, “one-hit wonders,” and the fleeting nature of viral success.
- Rory: “Y’all do that a lot, like y’all hear a song, like, nah, this is dope. And then... y’all never play it.” (43:45)
11. Cardi B & Nicki Minaj: Album Rollouts and Petty Moves
[45:51 - 55:08]
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Cardi’s album reception:
- Rory: “I was hoping... it is a decent album. It’s enough good records.” (45:11)
- Damaris: “I think she delivered for what she needed to do for her second album.” (45:29)
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“BBL Stink” Rumor:
- Storytime about viral joke that women with BBLs don’t know how to clean properly—Peach and Damaris break down baby powder/gold bond hygiene (47:11 - 49:27).
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Nicki Minaj’s timing:
- Damaris critiques Nicki for announcing her album right after Cardi’s release:
“You don’t need to do this. You’re Nicki ... now you’re making her [Cardi] your peer rather than someone below you.” (50:28)
- Damaris critiques Nicki for announcing her album right after Cardi’s release:
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Rory counters:
“It’s just a date ... I’m not mad at this type of shit, though. This can be good.” (54:00)
12. Atlanta Rap – Gunna, Offset, Quavo & “British Rapper” 21 Savage
[56:01 - 66:14]
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Gunna & Offset announced joint album:
- Damaris sees this as evidence of Atlanta rap alliances and “sides being picked” post-RICO (56:53).
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Quavo & Offset relationship:
“Are they never making music together again?” – Rory (57:20)
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“21 Savage Is a British Rapper?”:
- Brisk, funny debate over cultural identity in rap, comparing J. Cole (born in Germany but raised American) to 21 Savage’s British background (62:41 - 65:55).
- Damaris: “He is a Frankfurt rapper. That’s a Frank rapper right there.” (64:55)
- Brisk, funny debate over cultural identity in rap, comparing J. Cole (born in Germany but raised American) to 21 Savage’s British background (62:41 - 65:55).
13. Fashion: Skims, Drawers & Lingerie Mishaps
[66:31 - 68:23]
- Enthusiastic reviews for Skims men’s underwear—Rory and Damaris agree, “so good” (67:01).
- Peach recounts a cautionary tale about trying to be sexy with satin sheets and how it was a total disaster (“slipping and sliding…never again, bro!” – 68:05).
14. Industry News: Aaliyah & Tank “Gone” Record Controversy
[68:39 - 73:45]
- Tank disavows a posthumous Aaliyah collab, stating he didn’t approve the final versions and feels she “deserves better.” (69:32)
- Critique of music industry regarding unauthorized, often disrespectful, posthumous releases.
- Memories of the notorious Lifetime Aaliyah film—unanimous agreement it was so bad it bordered on spoof territory (73:08).
15. Listener Voicemails: Relationship Drama & Self-Control in the Club
[78:09 - 95:46]
A. Cruise Breakup Dilemma
– Listener recounts catching her man in a lie (fake car crash, using Reddit images), leading to a breakup before a planned group cruise. – He asks for his half of the non-refundable cruise payment back. Panel tells her she is NOT obligated to pay him:
“You have to eat that after you get caught in some shit like that.” – Damaris (79:44)
“If I was him, I would...you just gotta hold that.” – Rory (80:03)
B. Leaving the Streets—DJ Listener’s Dilemma
– The long-running “Baltimore DJ” caller asks how to resist temptation in a world full of beautiful women now that he’s trying to be loyal.
“I look to my side and Alex is over there just looking good…” (88:46) – Damaris: “You just like, tell yourself the truth: They don’t want you.” (90:13)
– On seeing bad-looking partners:
“You dating an unhealthy n—a? I got a shot!” – Rory (91:43)
– Peach: “If he’s sweet, generous, I don’t give a f— what he looks like. If he’s generous and sweet, that’s the number one thing.” (93:54)
Most Memorable Quotes
- “PayPal pay-in-4, all them. The Affirm Warriors is out there!” – Rory (05:44)
- “I just don’t trick. I’m not cheap. I just don’t trick.” – Rory (11:32)
- “I ain't gonna lie though, that's a little...you got a type.” – Rory teasing Peach on dating history (11:25)
- “It's my Buttman year. I'm gonna subscribe.” – Rory (16:13)
- “Sometimes I wish Nikki moved like the superstar she is. …You’re Nicki.” – Damaris (50:28)
- “He’s a Frankfurt rapper. That’s a Frank rapper right there.” – Damaris, during 21 Savage debate (64:55)
- “I usually don’t sleep with anything. I could sleep with these Skims on.” – Rory (67:34)
Noteworthy Timestamps
- 03:27 – TikTok as Live Selling Platform
- 05:44 – Buy Now Pay Later, "Affirm Warriors"
- 08:13 - 09:21 – 90s Adult Magazines (“Black Tail,” “Buttman”)
- 11:40 – “I’m not a hoe. I just don’t fuck for free.” – Peach
- 16:13 – “It might be your Buttman year. Colonoscopy time.”
- 18:03 – Fentanyl story & fear of laced drugs
- 21:07 – Women reflect on considering sex work
- 23:35 – “You can’t even show hole in NY strip clubs”
- 27:42 – Boat ride horror stories
- 29:14 – Peach’s family cruise, left on an island, rescued by tugboat
- 39:47 – “What’s the song of the summer?”
- 47:11 - 49:27 – BBL stink rumors & hygiene talk
- 50:28 - 54:00 – Nicki Minaj vs Cardi B album talk & rollout strategies
- 62:41 - 65:55 – 21 Savage “British rapper” debate
- 67:01 - 68:05 – Glowing Skims reviews; satin sheets fail story
- 69:32 - 71:05 – Aaliyah/Tank unreleased song drama
- 78:09 - 81:14 – Listener voicemail: cruise breakup and refund request
- 88:44 - 95:46 – Listener voicemail: how to avoid temptation as a DJ
Tone and Style
- Signature blend of sarcasm, irreverence, and cultural critique
- Conversational, rapid-fire banter and callbacks to in-jokes
- Candid about personal life, money, and social dynamics—never taking themselves too seriously
Conclusion
Episode 409 | Buttman is quintessential New Rory & Mal: brimming with social commentary, hilarious nostalgia, sex/love debates, and pop culture analysis. Whether covering the rise of live-stream shopping, the economics of OnlyFans, music industry drama, or just joking about the perils of sleeping on silk sheets, the panel keeps the energy high and the insights sharp. The episode closes with classic relationship advice—don’t cheat, value kindness, and always check your metadata.
