Episode 410 | My New Friends

Summary

New Rory & MAL – Episode 410 | "My New Friends"

Release Date: September 30, 2025
Podcast Network: iHeartPodcasts and The Volume

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Episode Overview

In this episode, Rory, Mal (Eric), and Ali catch up after a busy weekend full of movie critiques, chaotic travel stories, “hot takes” on pop culture, and debates around musical artistry. The trio dives into new releases from Young Thug and Doja Cat, discusses the cultural implications of Bad Bunny headlining the Super Bowl halftime show, and examine everything from wedding mishaps and Airbnb nightmares to failed concert expectations and viral moments in hip-hop. Listeners also get classic relationship debates and listener questions, all delivered with irreverent banter and candid honesty.

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Key Discussion Points

1. Catching Up: Birthday Logic & Movie Critique

[02:42 - 11:00]

• Mal’s Birthday Weekend: Mal describes his low-key birthday—dinner and movies, including missing a Kanye documentary to catch Marlon Wayans' new serious film, “Him.”

• Movie Review:

  • Mal praises Marlon Wayans’ acting:
    “He did a great job… but the movie, though, it wasn’t—it just wasn’t like I could have watched that when it streamed.” [04:56]
  • Critique of director Jordan Peele:
    “I like the show Key and Peele…but Get Out was awful. I got halfway through Us and nope, didn’t see that.” –Roy [06:02]

• New Movie "One Battle After Another":

  • Cast includes Leonardo DiCaprio, Teyana Taylor, Sean Penn, Benicio del Toro, Regina Hall; rave reviews from Mal.
  • Plot: Rebellious group helping children escape border camps, pursued by Sean Penn’s character.
  • “This might win movie of the year. This might win best film at the Academy Awards.” –Mal [09:01]

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2. Outrageous Travel/Wedding Story

[13:16 - 20:34]

• Roy’s Wedding Weekend:
  • Recaps disastrous road trip to New Hampshire for Maddie’s wedding (mass sickness, vomit incidents, no Wi-Fi or phone service at Airbnb, lost in the countryside, chaos with timings).
  • “I felt like the biggest, like, first world problem person ever, because I was legitimately upset.” –Roy [15:39]
  • Highlights the dependency on technology and comforts, plus relatable parenting mishaps.

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3. Super Bowl Halftime, Bad Bunny & Cultural Impact

[21:02 - 29:00]

• Bad Bunny Makes History:

  • Surprise at Bad Bunny being chosen for the Super Bowl after Taylor Swift and Adele declined.
  • “You thought right-wing football was mad at Dr. Dre and Snoop Dogg. This is going to be the most racist halftime Twitter timeline you have ever seen.” –Roy [22:38]
  • Discussion on Bad Bunny’s past worries about ICE raids and his global influence as a Latin artist.
  • Speculation about the NFL’s intention to drive huge viewership via the Latino audience.

• Possible Guest Performers:

  • Cardi B, Ricky Martin, Shakira, J. Balvin (though there’s tension with Balvin and Bad Bunny).
  • “Cardi gets brought out…they could squash it [with J Balvin] at the Super Bowl.” –Roy [30:24]

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4. The Young Thug Album & Freestyle Culture

[36:20 - 44:58; 57:00 - 63:00]

• Young Thug vs. Gunna:

  • Review of Young Thug’s surprise album release; praised for features, criticized for lackluster production, “fat” needing to be trimmed, and not reaching Gunna’s momentum.
  • “I’d be curious what a real Thug fan would think about this one…there’s joints I’ll continue to listen to, but I don’t know if I’m going back to a bunch of stuff.” –Roy [37:53]
  • Lively sidebar on the meaning of “freestyle” now versus old-school, i.e., written bars preferred over real improvised rhymes.

• Ab-Soul Viral Freestyle Flop:

  • Reaction to Ab-Soul’s awkward freestyle with Kai Cenat On The Radar; reflection on public expectations and how one mishap can be magnified on big platforms.

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5. Doja Cat’s New Album & Artist Superstardom

[45:03 - 56:18]

• Doja Cat’s Album "Big Doge":
  • Celebrated for ambitious, 80s pop-inspired vision and execution.
  • Mal: “She’s right there with the Beyoncés and Rihannas…her artistry and her skill set.” [45:26]
  • Heated debate around comparative talent: Is Doja on Nicki’s level? Beyonce’s? Discussion of skill vs. accomplishments.
  • “Doja is that type of talent. Without a doubt.” –Mal [46:27]
  • Talk about live performance expectations and missed festival appearances.

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6. Comedy Tours, Audience Expectations, & Live Event Disappointment

[65:17 - 76:35]

• Drewski’s Troublesome Toronto Show:
  • Discussion on fans’ expectations versus reality; lack of skits, confusing lineups based on promo videos, and social media backlash.
  • “If you went to a Drewski show expecting Justin Bieber to perform, you’re just stupid.” –Mal [67:28]
  • Wider reflection on challenges of doing large arenas and people not reading event flyers.

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7. Nas’s Casino Win & Rivalry with Jay-Z

[76:55 - 80:49]

• Nas Opens Casino in Queens:
  • Celebration of Nas and Anthony’s investment win; comparison to Jay-Z’s unsuccessful Times Square casino bid.
  • “It took 20 years, but Queen’s back on top…” –Roy [77:03]
  • Breakdown of what’s involved with city casino politics and old-school Queens pride.

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8. Relationship Hot Takes & Listener Voicemails

[85:25 - 93:40]

• Do Men Get More Attention When in Relationships?

  • Roy: Suspects more DMs after posting a girlfriend; Ali: “Men don’t do it because a lot of times they know they’re gonna get shot down.”
  • Mal: “Women will jerk you off and suck your dick with the rock on their finger. I’ve seen it happen.” [88:22]

• Would You Take $100 Billion To Have Your Thoughts Recorded?

  • All hosts say yes—quick debate on how cheap they’d go, the value of privacy, and how “cookies” already track their data anyways.

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9. In Memoriam: Assata Shakur

[98:52 - 104:09]

• Rest In Peace Assata Shakur:
  • Hosts reflect on her extraordinary life, the protection Cuba provided, and hope for a movie/series on her story.
  • Ali reads off current facts about Cuban extradition law to explain why Shakur remained safe.
  • “Thank you to Cuba…for giving the Queen a safe space…to be who she was.” –Mal [100:02]

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• Rory on moviegoing: “I didn’t go to the theater to see that.” [04:56]
• Roy on Get Out: “That movie is not shot well, it’s not directed well, not acted well.” [08:06]
• Ali on Doja Cat: “You just named two artists who aren’t on the same talent level…are you putting her on a level with Rihanna? Or a level with Beyoncé?” [46:06]
• Mal on concert letdown: “If you went to a Drewski show expecting Justin Bieber…you’re just stupid.” [67:28]
• Roy on relationship attention: “If you post your girl, they’ll do it in an innocent way just to test the waters, just to see what you’ll say…” [90:47]
• Mal on talent and time: “She hasn’t had the success…but skills, skill set and talent—1000 [percent].” [46:36]
• On Assata Shakur: “We don’t think about Cuba enough when it comes to that…Salute and thank you to Cuba…” –Mal [100:02]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Birthday & Movies: 02:42 – 11:00
• Wedding/Travel Fiasco: 13:16 – 20:34
• Super Bowl/Bad Bunny: 21:02 – 29:00
• Young Thug Album: 36:20 – 44:58
• Doja Cat/New Album: 45:03 – 56:18
• Freestyle Failure / Ab-Soul: 57:00 – 63:00
• Comedy Tour Misfires: 65:17 – 76:35
• Nas’ Casino Win: 76:55 – 80:49
• Relationship/Dating Qs: 85:25 – 93:40
• Assata Shakur Tribute: 98:52 – 104:09

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Takeaways

• Irreverent Movie Critique: The hosts aren’t afraid to go against the pop culture grain, especially in critiquing beloved figures like Jordan Peele.
• Cultural “Hot Takes”: Discussions about Bad Bunny, the NFL, and Doja Cat’s artistry reflect generational and cultural shifts in music and entertainment.
• Relatable Life Mishaps: Listeners get grounded, funny tales of family, travel, and technology dependence.
• Real Talk on Relationships: Expect genuine, sometimes raw gender debate and relationship advice.
• Hip-Hop and Live Performance: Clear-eyed views on what works in rap, why “off the dome” freestyles are rare, and why big concerts don’t always meet fan expectations.
• Experience Meets Humor: Podcast successfully juggles heavy subjects (Assata Shakur, cultural debates) with light-hearted personal anecdotes and plenty of jokes.

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For more: Follow the show wherever you listen to podcasts, check episode notes for music discussed, and submit your own voicemail questions for the crew.

Transcript

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[Eric]

The volume, no worry.

[Ali]

And now.

[Eric]

That'S like my light. You know how Wayne has the lighter?

[Roy]

That's what yours is.

[Eric]

All right, now we're ready. Yeah, the burp.

[Roy]

I mean, we can leave it in. Let's see what the listeners think about your burp being. I don't know if they're the same.

[Eric]

No, it's not supposed to be the same. It's just kind of like insinuating that I.

[Roy]

But the listeners should know, like, balls about to come on the track.

[Eric]

Ready? Yeah.

[Roy]

Okay. With the burp.

[Eric]

Means I. Yeah. Here we go.

[Roy]

Well, welcome back.

[Eric]

Oh, man. Thank you, man. Thank you. It's good to be back.

[Roy]

I don't know if I said anything that would require a thank you. I just said we're back.

[Eric]

You said. I thought you said welcome back.

[Roy]

Welcome back.

[Eric]

That's what I thought you said. I thought you said it's cool.

[Roy]

Fresh off the birthday weekend. I know you're probably a little loopy, a little hungover.

[Eric]

Hungover?

[Roy]

Drained.

[Eric]

No, not hungover. I didn't do. I did. Absolutely. I just. I went to eat and went to the movies like, twice.

[Roy]

By yourself?

[Eric]

No, the first. No, I went. I didn't go by myself.

[Roy]

Okay.

[Eric]

I went. I went the first night. The first. Well, the first movie I went to see was I was going to go see a Kanye documentary, but we got to the theater late. Cause we were eating and shit. So we got to the theater late. So the Kanye had already started. But the only movie that was starting, like, as soon as we got there was the Marlon Wayne's Him.

[Roy]

Okay.

[Eric]

Movie. Yeah. Terrible.

[Ali]

They said it was.

[Roy]

She just went to Kanye late.

[Eric]

Terrible. Yeah, I could have. She just went to the Kanye documentary late. But. No, but Marlon's acting was great. His acting in it was phenomenal to see Marlon Wayans in that type of role, you know, because we used to see them all being goofy. Yeah, funny. This was a more serious.

[Roy]

This was his ray.

[Eric]

I'm not gonna say ray, but this was his. You know, this was his more serious. His Ali wasn't his Ali. This wasn't his ray. This wasn't his Mandela.

[Roy]

Okay.

[Eric]

This was just him being just a more serious role to. So. So to see him in that type of character was good. So he did a great job. His acting was great. The movie, though, it wasn't. And I got it. The undertones of, you know, selling your soul to be a great athlete and get access to the elite world and all of that. I get the story behind it, but it just wasn't like I could have watched that when it streamed. Like, I didn't go to the theater to see that.

[Roy]

Yeah, I didn't.

[Eric]

Marlon's acting was great. I loved. I think he's going to win some type of award for his role in this for sure.

[Roy]

And is it like Illuminati based, like selling your soul or is that just the metaphor?

[Eric]

It's kind of, it's kind of like that. It's that metaphor of secret society got you. You know, if you want to be, if you want to get access to these things, you want to be great. These are the things you have to kind of do and accept.

[Roy]

Okay, well, I can tell you out the gate just the movie poster in itself. I would have just went to the Kanye. They have. They have this man clearly doing what would be Jesus crucified to the cross, but instead he has two footballs and he's covered in blood.

[Eric]

The blood of Christ. Blood of Christ, Yeah.

[Roy]

Oh, it's a Jordan Peele thing.

[Eric]

Yes.

[Roy]

Oh, I definitely was gonna go to Kanye late.

[Eric]

Yeah. Yes.

[Ali]

Why you shouldn't have Jordan Pill.

[Roy]

I know, it's, it's, you're not supposed to say that, but I mean, you know, a lot of his movies stink.

[Ali]

Well, what's a lot? Cuz he only had one. Don't he have like three?

[Roy]

So three director stinkies. Well, I want to go with directed.

[Ali]

This was directed by him. It was written by him.

[Roy]

Okay. Any writing and directing? Yeah, usually. Usually stinks. Like I like the show Key and Peel, don't get me wrong. And he's been in movies that I like. But get out was awful. I got halfway through us and nope, didn't see that.

[Ali]

Okay, so you saying basically you're saying that get out sucks.

[Eric]

He's saying that black directors are terrible.

[Roy]

That's ex. That's exactly what I think. That's Spike Lee joint. I smoke it.

[Eric]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think he Spike Le joint. I roll, I light it.

[Roy]

Only thing I do to that, that's.

[Eric]

The only thing I do to Spike Le joint is light it like inside. Man, he got.

[Roy]

School days. Disgusting.

[Eric]

Oh man, I don't do that to Jordan Pill. Man, we just joking. But yeah, that movie was terrible.

[Roy]

Black Klansman writer on that was great. All right, so I think it's just the director writer stuff that I hate.

[Eric]

Okay, so his producer writer, you're okay with Candyman? How we feeling about Candyman?

[Roy]

Well, which is this like the remake of the 2021?

[Eric]

Not the one from 90.

[Roy]

I saw the one in the 90s. I, I, I don't think I need to see the Jordan Peele one.

[Eric]

It was cool.

[Roy]

Well, all right, yeah, now that I know him was directed, I will not be seeing that even if, well, you.

[Eric]

Can stream, you can watch it when it's streaming.

[Ali]

I'm listening to Get Out Slander. That's great. In 2025. That is crazy.

[Roy]

What was the other one, the target audience. That's what I understand the importance.

[Eric]

He actually wasn't the target. He was actually who the movie was saying we shouldn't stay away from.

[Roy]

I really think I never care about Raid. And everyone took it seriously. I think, like, after the first week happened, Jordan Peele was like, all right, well, I guess I'll just lean into. I was serious about this movie. I think he made a spoof, and people took it as a serious movie.

[Eric]

So you think he did what Kanye did with Adidas. Take the worst silhouette they have.

[Roy]

Yes.

[Eric]

Add Yeezy and some colors.

[Roy]

Yes.

[Eric]

And watch them fly off the show.

[Roy]

Granted, I understand the undertones of the entire movie. I get the theme.

[Eric]

Yeah. You get the messaging.

[Roy]

I get the messaging. But that movie is. Is not shot well, it's not directed well, not acted well.

[Ali]

That's your opinion.

[Roy]

Low rel is the best part of the entire thing. And he's not even at the house.

[Eric]

Yeah, he was, like, outside at the end.

[Roy]

He's the only entertaining part of the entire movie.

[Eric]

Got you.

[Roy]

But shout out to Jordan Peele. Yes, A great.

[Eric]

But definitely watch. Definitely watch him, though. I'm not saying go to the theater.

[Ali]

Bootleg.

[Eric]

No. It'll be streaming. So, you know, movies only stay in the theater a month, if that. So it'll be streaming probably next week or in two weeks. Stream it, though. Cause Marlon Wayne's character, he smoked his role. Like, he definitely. His acting in that was dope. So me and my homeboy, we went to see one battle after another with Leo and Teyana Taylor. This might be movie of the year. Yeah, absolutely. Leonardo's gonna get another Academy Award. Teyana Taylor, I think her role in this one, I think it's gonna be a part two. Her role in this one was a little too short, but her role in it was incredible. Sean Penn, he might get another Academy Award for this. Benicio del Toro, Regina hall, she might like. This is definitely gonna. This might win movie of the year. This might win best film at the Academy Awards. This movie was incredible.

[Ali]

I'm sorry. I'm reading what's on the screen. And it's just. What's on the screen is cracking. So Josh has highlighted. And Leonardo DiCaprio reveals that his agent told him his name was too ethnic and suggested using the lame Lenny Williams. Lenny Williams is. That's an ethnic attitude.

[Eric]

So this was his Asian in the 80s told him this. But what a lot of people don't remember, Baby D, is that, you know, Italians were looked at in a different Light. At one point, they looked at as minorities as, you know, like black people are. As Latin people are riled up.

[Roy]

Don't get them riled up.

[Eric]

I'm just saying in Hollywood, they were so. Leonardo DiCaprio in the 80s.

[Roy]

Yeah.

[Eric]

Like, yo, we don't wanna lean too much into the Italian thing. You know what I'm saying? That's a real thing now. Of course, that's looked at as a luxurious and prestig this name because of the world we're in today. But in the 80s, absolutely. That name was.

[Ali]

No, I get it. But what I'm saying is Lenny Williams is like that.

[Roy]

Yeah. Like, what if you were looking for the 45 of because I love you and stumbled upon Growing Pains.

[Eric]

Yeah.

[Roy]

It's like, oh, this is the same guy.

[Eric]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Roy]

Because you watch TV until TV went off and it was watching growing things, Right?

[Eric]

Absolutely, absolutely.

[Roy]

But, yeah, I. Italians at that point were changing their name. Not the way that another group of people were changing their last names.

[Eric]

No.

[Roy]

For different reasons. But, yeah, that was the thing in.

[Eric]

Absolutely.

[Roy]

But I mean, that is kind of wild, though, because that's such like, an iconic name now.

[Eric]

Oh, he's fucking Hollywood royalty at this point. But that movie was incredible. Y' all definitely should go see it. Sean Penn, Benicio del Toro, the Cat. That's why I went to see it. Because when I saw the cast, I was like, okay, this can't be a trash. Like, these are like the cream of the crop. This is. You know, Sean Penn and Leonardo in the same movie is like, I gotta watch this. But the movie was incredible. The story was incredible. The acting obviously was incredible. And I wish Teyana Taylor's role was just a little longer. Cause the movie was. It was. It was a long movie. But she would have definitely to me. And I think she still will be nominated for some type of awards, but she might have been nominated for Best Actress if Taylor, her role was. Was long in this movie.

[Roy]

What. Without, like, giving away too much, what is the plot of the movie?

[Eric]

So they. They are like. They're like a rebellious. They're like, like rebelling against the government and they're, you know, getting kids from these. These. These. These camps at the borders and kind of freeing them and then housing them in. In the city and, you know, just like kind of what's going on, you know, illegal with immigrants being here and people housing them and hiding them and trying to keep them, you know, away from ICE agents and things like that. So they're like a rebellious group. Him and Tiana are, you know, together they end up having a child. Sean Penn is a soldier or a police officer who is now hunting down anybody that was part of this freedom group, if you want to call them.

[Roy]

So we owe Sean Penn an apology.

[Eric]

Why is that?

[Roy]

When he was with El Chapo, he was just researching for a role.

[Eric]

Yeah, yeah, that's what he was doing.

[Roy]

No one was going to ask him on this rollout. Did Jimmy Kimmel ask him, like, yo, was you doing with Chapo? Like, when they go on the red carpet? No. If no one asked that. All right, cool. Now. Now I see what he was doing. Researching for a role. He was. He was on WhatsApp with Chapo.

[Eric]

Yeah. You know, he has to really become the person. He has to really dive into the. The character. But great, great movie.

[Roy]

Do you see who. What the baby looks like between Tiana and Leo? Cause that would be a gorgeous child. Might be the most beautiful child.

[Eric]

You could tell she's biracial. You could tell she's biracial.

[Roy]

Okay, so casting did their job.

[Eric]

Yeah, they did their job. But, yeah, that movie was. Whenever I felt like I knew what was gonna happen, it was totally left. But it was like, the acting was incredible and the storyline was great. So, yeah, definitely. Y' all should definitely go see One battle after another. That's definitely probably, in my opinion, movie of the year so far.

[Roy]

Okay, well, my weekend, I'll try to keep it pretty brief, but do you want to hear another catastrophic traveling story of Roy's? Just. Just my luck. Continuing with traveling.

[Eric]

Oh, okay. So you went to. It was. It was Maddie's.

[Roy]

Maddie. Shout out to Maddie.

[Eric]

Shout out. Maddie. Maddie got married. Shout out to Maddie and what's her husband's name. Congrats to Maddie and Brad. Yes, the newlyweds.

[Roy]

Woo for our listeners. Maddie is in some of our sketches. She was in the PR sketch, I guess not to be confused with Greer. She was in our. What was that? AD1. But yeah, Maddie's been in a bunch of our sketches. She's a great writer, great comedian. She's super viral on Tick Tock now. So happy for her success. So we drove seven hours to the middle of nowhere in New Hampshire to go to this wedding. So the plan was to get an Airbnb. My mom, Amara, Kia, and myself, we're gonna go up to this wedding because Kia worked with Maddie. That's how I met but met Maddie. So I was more of a plus one than anything, even though she's worked with us. Thursday night, I pick up Amara from daycare. She's throwing up everywhere at daycare. Get back to my crib. She throws up all over my couch, all over my white carpet, all over the floor, all over me.

[Eric]

Nice.

[Roy]

I'm like, all right, cool. So do that for the night. Friday, we're packing up. Amara seems like she's totally fine. Everything is cool. We don't even get halfway out of Jersey City. She throws up everywhere in my car. So then we turn around, and my mom's like, here. You guys go up to the wedding. I'll stay here with tomorrow, and, you know, everything will be fine. You have to miss the wedding. But by this point, it's rush hour on a Friday, so it takes us seven and a half hours to get to New Hampshire. As soon as we get to the Airbnb, my stomach drops and I throw up over the carpet, the couch, the kitchen.

[Eric]

Nice.

[Roy]

I just follow through what Amara had just did in New Jersey, like a duet. But I do it in New Hampshire.

[Eric]

Yeah.

[Roy]

So I have no service. Some of the electricity is not out while my head is in the bowl. I'm like, all right, let me at least put on, like, a video or something to distract me. I said, kia, can you tell me the WI fi? There's no WI fi. No service.

[Ali]

Y' all got an Airbnb with no WI fi?

[Roy]

I didn't book it.

[Ali]

Okay.

[Roy]

But, you know I said something.

[Ali]

Yeah, I'm sure you did.

[Eric]

How did. Wait. But wait.

[Roy]

No.

[Eric]

Not have wi fi in 2020 in.

[Roy]

A place that's SOS I felt like the biggest, like, first world problem person ever, because I was legitimately upset.

[Eric]

I could. I could not have a toilet in my Airbnb.

[Ali]

Yeah, I found you. WI fi.

[Eric]

WI fi.

[Ali]

Yeah.

[Roy]

And then it was like, all right, we were gonna have a child here, too. Like, you didn't want to mention to us that, hey, there's zero service up here, and you don't get WI fi. So then we're like, all right, we could maybe Turn on the TV, TVs work. They have a DVD player.

[Eric]

Thank God the TVs work.

[Roy]

DVD player is crazy. Requires a remote. There's no remote for the DVD player. Then we try to go through the channels. No channels.

[Eric]

Where were y' all in Palestine?

[Roy]

Yeah.

[Ali]

Okay.

[Eric]

Oh, my bad.

[Ali]

Wild.

[Roy]

We were in Bernie's country, so.

[Eric]

Oh, Bernie Sanders. Oh, yeah. No WI Fi.

[Roy]

So we missed the. We missed the welcome party on Friday. My head is in the bowl. Don't sleep at all. At one point, I was in the fetal position on like, you know how steps go and there's like one little platform and then steps go up. Spent like six hours in the fetal position just in that area because it was the only place that I felt okay. Next morning, start to feel a little bit better, pass out again. Because we don't have WI fi. We realized that the time for the wedding was actually 4 o' clock and not 6 o'. Clock. And mind you, we don't have a GPS to get us to the fucking wedding. I don't know where the fuck I am. So we have to just drive aimlessly to find a town.

[Eric]

Why don't you have gps?

[Roy]

Nothing's working. There's no service. There's no.

[Eric]

Oh, okay.

[Roy]

My car couldn't do it. Nothing could do it. Like, yeah, this is how I found out I'm not a man. Like, I couldn't do. I was helpless without a helpless. Like the way women joke. Like, I wish men would build houses and go to war. Like, I feel them now.

[Eric]

Okay.

[Roy]

I was the most helpless little man of all time. Sitting there like, you don't have any blur. I don't know how to get to the wedding. I couldn't find a treasure map, a service center, a gas station. I was so fucking helpless. And my tummy hurt.

[Eric]

Your baby mama? My tummy hurt. You had an upset stomach. No WI fi, no gps.

[Ali]

Thank God you was with, like, your baby mama. And now, like a bitch you was trying to impress. That would have been hard.

[Roy]

I wouldn't have went up to New Hampshire. I promise you that.

[Eric]

It's worse being with your baby moms because she looking at you like, see, I had a baby with this motherfucker. How can this person leave, like, this piece of. He can't even. He don't know what he's doing.

[Roy]

I was hoping my tire would pop because at least I know how to do that, right? I was trying to get some type of man.

[Eric]

Yeah, yeah, I got it.

[Roy]

Yo, I don't need a router for this. Could change a tire.

[Eric]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Roy]

I was. I was pouring oil in this. I didn't need oil. I was just trying to show that.

[Eric]

I could do something. So did y' all make it on time?

[Roy]

We made it to the wedding late. But I know Maddie doesn't listen to the podcast cuz she's on her honeymoon, but Peter gave us some tips to make it seem like we were at the wedding.

[Eric]

Okay.

[Ali]

Really?

[Eric]

Like we said, little facts that happen.

[Roy]

Yeah, but we made the cocktail hour. Hour. And the reception. We get back to the house somehow without gps. And then the moment we get there, Kia throws up everywhere.

[Ali]

You should have known.

[Eric]

Oh. So, yeah. So I knew that once you had.

[Ali]

It, she was going to catch it.

[Roy]

So when I had a few bars before we got to the bnb, I told my mom, hey, I've been throwing up. You should put, like, a mask on. Around some, like, Amara is getting everyone sick. My mom goes, I got my flu shot. I'm good. Famous last words. We drive back seven hours on Sunday. Get back there around, like, 3:30.

[Eric]

Mom was in the bowl.

[Roy]

No, My mom is bragging because Kia, at this point, is up. I'm starting to feel better. Like, I had already passed the 48 hours. Key is now just getting into hers.

[Eric]

Yeah.

[Roy]

So my mom's just sitting there laughing like, damn, y' all look like shit. I'm good. I went to Dwayne Reed. I got my flu shot. I'm like, this isn't a flu. This is a stomach bug from a fucking daycare. Yeah, but whatever, Mom.

[Eric]

Yeah.

[Roy]

9:00Pm rolls around. Kia, text me. Yeah, I think your mom is throwing up in the bedroom.

[Ali]

Yeah. Yo.

[Roy]

I go and knock on the door, I say, you good.

[Eric]

You got your flu shot.

[Roy]

Do you need me to go to Walgreens? Do you need your booster?

[Eric]

Oh, man.

[Roy]

So currently, my mom is still laying in my house right now as I left to come record throwing up. Up. And on my way here, Amara throws up in the car again. So she's still contagious. Wait, no, I feel fine. Kia feels fine now, too. Amara has been fine for days. I don't know. I don't know if it was because traffic and, like, stop and go, but she threw up again this morning.

[Eric]

Yeah, it might be car sick.

[Roy]

I was like, dude, you can't be throwing up for a week straight.

[Eric]

Yeah, that sounds like car sick. Because I can't if I'm in a car. I can't, like, be on my phone looking at my phone. I get sick.

[Roy]

Yeah.

[Eric]

I get nauseous if I'm looking down on my phone and, like, the car is moving. Nauseous. So that could be what is. She's on her iPad. Yeah, it could be that.

[Roy]

I mean, once I. I finally did get, like, full service on our drive back, I was, like, happy, but also, like, a little sad. I was like, damn, my phone's probably gonna be. I probably missed so much shit. Work stuff, this and that.

[Ali]

No one cleared the sample. We were fine.

[Roy]

Yeah. Emails were the same.

[Eric]

Yeah.

[Roy]

But I usually wake up to 40 text messages, so I thought this was gonna be the worst thing ever, but I was like, oh, all right, cool. I like not mattering. Maybe I should move to New Hampshire.

[Eric]

When I came out of the theater last night, I think I asked my homeboy while we was in the theater, I guess he checked his phone and was like, oh, shit. Bad Bunny got the Super Bowl.

[Ali]

Mm.

[Eric]

I thought he was lying. I was like, what? It's a Bad Bunny.

[Roy]

Was that surprising to you?

[Eric]

Not that it was surprising to me, because news had came out that Taylor Swift turned it down and Adele turned it down.

[Roy]

Yes.

[Eric]

So I was laughing, my homeboys, about that. I was like, yeah, you know, when you're a big dog, you turn down the Super Bowl. You don't need the fucking Super Bowl. Just talking shit.

[Ali]

And meanwhile, the biggest dog.

[Eric]

Well, Benito. Benito decided he was gonna.

[Roy]

What would you think Princess Prince will be?

[Eric]

Well, no, I mean, it was. It was jokes. It was. It was just shit talking. But once. Once Taylor turned it down and Adele turned it down, it was kind of like, well, damn, who's gonna. So then you obviously have to look at whoever's the biggest. The stars. That's what they. You know how they kind of go by it. So it was Bad Bunny. I thought about it, but I didn't think the NFL or Roc Nation would actually pull a trigger on it and do it. I thought they would find somebody else and kind of fill in that slide. I didn't know if Bad Bunny wanted to even be a part of it, the super bowl thing, but it makes sense. After he just had the residency in Puerto Rico, what he did down on the island, which was incredible, but I didn't think that it would land on Bad Bunny. After Adelin and Taylor turned, he wasn't the first person I thought about. But now that he is announced as the performer of the super bowl, it makes sense. I mean, he's one of the biggest stars in the world. So you.

[Roy]

You thought right wing football was mad at Dr. Dre and Snoop Dogg. This is going to be the most racist halftime Twitter timeline you have ever seen in your life at this time. Bad Bunny, who's made comments about ice. Also, I think Bad Bunny would make more sense for maybe FIFA, just based off not only his popularity, but just. Just the sport in itself. And now internationalists. Football is a very American thing. This is going to be interesting.

[Eric]

Well, Puerto Rico is a territory of the U.S. i fully understand. Right.

[Roy]

I just. It's an interesting pick. I like it. I'm just telling you, with the climate right now, this was a crazy pick, a bold move.

[Ali]

But at the same time, I think the right.

[Roy]

I can't wait to see it. Bad Boy puts on a great time.

[Ali]

Where it needs to. I think it's the right move. He's the biggest pop star in the world, so. Yeah.

[Eric]

Well, it's interesting because the reason why he didn't go on an American tour was because he was in, I guess concerned is the word. He was concerned that ICE would be at his shows, arresting.

[Roy]

Very fair assumption that that would happen. Without question.

[Eric]

The fact that there's people.

[Roy]

They go to Home Depot. You don't think they go to the Bad Bunny show? They're good. They would be waiting outside.

[Eric]

But it's not. It's not interesting to you that somebody that's here illegally, a migrant, could afford a Bad Bunny ticket in America?

[Ali]

What is that how.

[Eric]

You know. How. You know how expensive Bad Bunny tickets are?

[Roy]

You know how much money the guys standing outside of Lowe's and Home Depot pull in cash?

[Eric]

No, I don't.

[Roy]

A good amount.

[Ali]

I'd have offered him something like, yeah, that ain't it.

[Eric]

But that's just nice.

[Roy]

They buying the big. The big chicken tenders.

[Eric]

Be like, yo, I don't want to go on a US Tour because I'm afraid that ICE agents might be at my shows arresting people.

[Roy]

Yeah.

[Ali]

And also, not even all of them have to be immigrants. They could be. The ICE be fudgeing around, fucking with regular Spanish people. Like. Like, they don't even have to be immigrants. They'd be fucking. They will arrest you and then figure out the details later. Oh, you American. Oh, my bad. Oh, you're a dreamer. Oh, my bad.

[Eric]

Yeah, I don't think that's how.

[Roy]

There's going to be a few hiccups.

[Ali]

That's definitely happened plenty of times.

[Eric]

I don't know. I don't know if that's happened, but it has happened. The interesting part is. The interesting part is his show. His stage performance is incredible.

[Roy]

For sure.

[Eric]

He puts on a better show than 90% of the artists. So, yeah, it will be a huge production. It will be great.

[Roy]

Completely well deserved. I just think it's a bold move that I'm not mad at. It's just for this year. Well, going into next year. Yeah. That's a crazy pick.

[Eric]

And then we know what it's all about. Getting the big. Obviously, the Latin community will tune in to the halftime show, so the numbers are going to be incredible. And that's all this is about. It's not so much about the people in the stadium. It's not so much about the people that's actually at the super bowl, but more so about how many people can we get to tune in for halftime to push these commercials and things like that. So, I mean, Bad Bunny is, you know, he has a huge, huge global audience. He puts on a great show. He has great music, great performer, great entertainer. So, I mean, it makes sense.

[Roy]

Is the NFL scripted if somehow the Raiders go from 1 in 3 and go on a Super bowl run?

[Eric]

Why would that be scripted?

[Roy]

A lot of Latinos are Raiders fan.

[Eric]

Cowboys fans, too.

[Roy]

True. Chargers are doing pretty well.

[Eric]

49Ers fans a lot.

[Roy]

Is that a thing for the Niners?

[Eric]

Oh, you've never been to a Niners game?

[Roy]

I haven't, no.

[Eric]

Oh, yeah. Huge.

[Roy]

Oh, okay.

[Eric]

Huge.

[Roy]

What's the Niners record now? I'm just trying to see if.

[Eric]

3 and 1 charges.

[Roy]

3 and 1.

[Eric]

9 is 3 and 1 script.

[Roy]

Script is in.

[Eric]

It's in. It's in the Bay Area. The Niners might be in the game, man. The Niners might be in the bowl.

[Roy]

In all Latino experience.

[Eric]

Oh, my God. And all Latino. Yeah.

[Roy]

I'm curious how they're gonna not spin, per se, but, like, market the entire thing with Bad Bunny. I'm just interested to see the same.

[Eric]

Way they market, you know, Modelo. It's the same.

[Ali]

Y' all have a large Spanish audience.

[Eric]

Wait, no.

[Roy]

We're being offensive.

[Eric]

No, we're not. How am I. No.

[Ali]

How's that? Just making sure.

[Eric]

No, that's not offensive. I'm saying they're gonna market it the same way they market anything else.

[Roy]

In mall's defense, the image that Roc Nation did pick looks like a Corona commercial.

[Eric]

He was on the. He was, you know, he was on the beach with a goal post.

[Roy]

Like, you know, the Corona commercial with the silhouette of the little hut in the palm tree? Yeah, it was the same thing.

[Eric]

It's the same thing. It's Bad Bunny.

[Ali]

That's.

[Eric]

That sells itself. Good dope sells itself. You know that, Rory, Bad Bunny magic.

[Roy]

It's brand name.

[Eric]

Bad Bunny's performing at Super Bowl. That's all you have to say?

[Ali]

Super Bowl? I don't know.

[Eric]

Okay.

[Ali]

It might be the highest Watch Super Bowl.

[Roy]

I don't think that's a bad take at all.

[Eric]

Nah, not more than. Not like us.

[Roy]

All right, I'm not trying to. I will say, between the numbers of people that watch the halftime show regardless, plus an entire new demographic that may not watch it. Yeah. This could be the highest. Highest rated Nah, he's not being Kendrick, though.

[Eric]

He's not. No way he's gonna beat Kendrick. No, he's not.

[Ali]

He's. Yeah, I will go on Limits.

[Roy]

He's probably gonna be Bruno Mars and Beyonce. Yeah.

[Ali]

Like, y' all got bad boys up.

[Roy]

See, now, that's offensive. We were not offended.

[Eric]

That's the most offensive thing is that. I don't know if that. What was that? That was Italian. What was that?

[Ali]

All of my.

[Roy]

That's like when my dad says Brazilians at a Mexican restaurant.

[Eric]

What the was that?

[Ali]

All of my friends who say bad. They all say bad. Boonie. They all say it like that, I'm telling you.

[Roy]

But none of them are Latino.

[Ali]

Bad Bunny. Yes, they are. Who are Bad Bunny fans? Like, all of them shout out to Ann. Shout out to rocks. Like the ones that travel to Puerto Rico to go see Bad Bunny. That's how they say it.

[Eric]

Yeah, but you can't say that, though.

[Ali]

What the. Can I?

[Eric]

Well, you look like you could be Spanish. You do. You look.

[Ali]

The mustache.

[Eric]

No, you just. You look like you could be. You look like you can be Puerto Rican. You like, you could be Dominican. Yeah, you got that. You got that look to you. Costa Rican, maybe. Yeah, you got that look.

[Roy]

Definitely have Puerto Rican mannerisms, for sure.

[Ali]

What does that see? That feels racist.

[Eric]

That felt racist or anything from his face. His white face is gonna come across.

[Roy]

You're acting like. I was quoting the Young Thug intro.

[Ali]

Why Young Thug turn everybody white? What's going on?

[Eric]

Well, he said Young Thug said, you know, the. The thing about what the music industry used to be is if you want to be big and be success, go white. So this. That's what he was trying to do. Like, he was trying to.

[Roy]

This is his bluegrass album.

[Ali]

But why did he turn everybody.

[Eric]

This is not his bluegrass. This is not. I don't even want you to. This is not Young thugs bluegrass. No, this is not that. But that was his reason saying, you know, they used to have black artists when they. But back in the days, the album cover would be, like, white people on a beach. It wouldn't even be the black artist on that. So he's kind of like alluding to that. If you want to be the biggest, you got to go white.

[Roy]

Okay. Was that a fake tweet when he posted here's all my friends and was all the features. And they were all white, too? Because, again, I didn't have service. I didn't know if that was a troll.

[Eric]

Probably a troll.

[Roy]

I don't know. It looked like it was real, a real account. But it had all the features and they were all white, which made me wish that Central C was on the album. So I could see the white version of Central C that he would make.

[Eric]

Just put a picture of Central C.

[Roy]

If it was all them and then just C as is.

[Eric]

Do we think Bad Bunny's going to bring anybody with him?

[Roy]

Cardi B?

[Ali]

I would not be surprised, but I don't think so. I wouldn't be surprised, but I don't think so.

[Eric]

Bodega Baddie at the Super Bowl?

[Roy]

No. What was the one from the first album that they have now?

[Ali]

I like diamonds. I like Diamonds.

[Roy]

Yeah. I think Cardi comes out and they do that.

[Ali]

I like it like that.

[Eric]

Oh, yeah. They definitely got like. If you're gonna do. I like it like that. Anyway, it has to be at the Super Bowl.

[Roy]

Yeah, that's such a party. And Ricky Martin need to come up.

[Eric]

Yeah, for sure. Shakira, while they're at it, see if she's free.

[Roy]

Didn't she already do the Super Bowl? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think Cardi gets brought out. I don't know. Is there another artist from that genre?

[Ali]

Jay Balvin?

[Roy]

J. Balvin?

[Ali]

Yeah.

[Eric]

J. Balvin.

[Roy]

Isn't he on? I like it like that too.

[Eric]

J. Balvin and Bad Bunny got a little.

[Ali]

Oh, static.

[Eric]

It's a little static between them right now. I mean, I don't know if it's. I wouldn't say beef, but I don't think that they're on the terms that they used to be on right now.

[Roy]

But they could squash it at the Super Bowl. That would be like a nice moment of unity.

[Eric]

It'd be like Thug and Lucci.

[Roy]

It'd be the same thing.

[Eric]

No worry about Mal.

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[Eric]

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[Roy]

Insane. But are you also thinking about the traffic on your way to the store or transferring all your data?

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[Roy]

Did you listen to this Young Thug album? No, that dropped because we were having a conversation of how important this was and this was. Thug didn't really announce anything. This just dropped. So it was kind of ironic. We were having that conversation the week that his album was going to come out. It dropped and I listened to it yesterday.

[Eric]

How was it?

[Roy]

Be honest, Gunna is if we're doing the competition, gonna is clearly in the lead.

[Ali]

Okay, well, let's ignore the competition. How was the album?

[Roy]

There's some joints, some fat needs to be trimmed off this. But let me start with the records that I do like Catch Me on Falling, I like Whoopty Do. I like Blaming Jesus. I like Sad Spider. I like Pardon My Back. I like Walk down is okay. Money on money with Future. I don't know why. That's track 18. I think it could have been a single and should be way higher. I know they have a lot of records like that, but that's a classic future Thug record. And then dreams really do come true with scientists. There's like five or six joints that are cool to me on this. 20 is a lot. An hour and 14 minutes. I don't know but it did kind of kill the rumors of what we were talking about of who's going to be featured. Everyone he talked about on his podcast was featured on this Baby is a great verse. Cardi is a cool verse. It's just cool. It's not groundbreaking.

[Eric]

It's not Little Babies on album.

[Roy]

Yeah, that's a great verse too.

[Eric]

Okay.

[Roy]

Actually one of my favorite baby verses in a long time. I haven't heard of baby features that I've really loved in a while and this one's really good on Pardon My Back but I don't know if this is getting it done. The way we talk again, I don't want to compare it to Gunna but they compare it to each other. He talks about Gunna on this whole this isn't that this isn't getting him to the next level of everyone's gonna forget about what is going on. It's just cool. I don't know if any of these are really gonna connect like that. I don't know what would be the standout. Maybe part of my back with Lil Baby.

[Ali]

I thought you said it would be future one will be the stand.

[Roy]

It's all. It's number 18 out of 20 tracks and the last one being that I missed my dog's seven minute record so it's damn near the second to last record. I don't even think they care about it. So I mean according to Apple Music it would be Whoop Dee Doo Told you which I I think was probably one of the worst records on there. I don't know. It starts out slow and then picks up. I like more of the the sadder thug on this. The more R B thug. The other stuff is a lot of the same generic beats. It felt like they didn't mix anything at all. So I don't know. I I'd be curious what a like a real thug fan would think about this one as opposed to me. I I like thugs music but I would never consider myself a thug fan. Like fan. Yeah I like songs but there's. There's joints like I'll definitely continue to listen to Sad Spider Blaming Jesus Catch Me I'm Falling but I don't know if I'm going back to a bunch of stuff but he got all the right features. Sexy reds on it. Savage Travis Scott. I mean he did what he was supposed to do as far as that goes. I just don't know if the production is. Is really there.

[Eric]

So it's the music.

[Roy]

Yeah. It's not to say like Gonna, like, super elevated his sound, per se, with the last two projects, but it did move in a less stagnant direction. This is very much plateau, if not lower, than a lot of the production Thug has had prior to prison. Even some of the production on the project he put out in prison, I think was better than a lot of this. It felt a lot. A lot of it felt, like, super too tracky and, like. I don't know. I just don't know if it's really gonna connect with people, especially the way that he rolled it out. Like, with the podcast, you had so much momentum. Like, you should have just kept talking.

[Eric]

I did say he was performing in front of the. The jail in Fulton County.

[Roy]

Oh, that's good.

[Eric]

Is it?

[Roy]

Yeah. I mean, yeah, give him back.

[Eric]

Is it, Rory? That's good.

[Roy]

Is it giving back?

[Eric]

Oh, okay.

[Roy]

Remember, like, when Wuang used to go to Rikers and perform and, like, you know, boost the morale of everyone?

[Eric]

Yeah, same thing.

[Roy]

Like ODB rapping about all the shit.

[Ali]

That landed him in there. Sure.

[Eric]

And he performed a Gun of record.

[Roy]

Oh, he did.

[Eric]

I do love the fact that him and Lucci were able to, you know, squash their beef and put their differences aside and, you know.

[Roy]

Yeah. I feel like that record should get him off parole.

[Eric]

Well, no, that's not what the.

[Roy]

Like, if they're cool, that's not what the. Everyone's safe now. Everything is fine. If they're.

[Eric]

Yeah. Nah, it don't work like that. Just one song don't mean I cool. Everybody's off parole. No, it don't work like that, but it is, you know, on a serious note. It was dope to see them work together and, you know, kind of move past that part of their lives. Anytime you have people that are going through serious things in the streets and, you know, people were unfortunately killed and hurt and things like that, you know, at some point, you have to be like, all right, man, what are we doing? And let's kind of put it into this bullshit. Damage is already done. Too much damage was done. Lives were lost. But, you know, that doesn't mean that we can't end this. Come together, move forward, be examples for the community, be role models for the youth and show them that, you know, that lifestyle is only going to and end up, you know, one or two ways for you. So let's just talk as men, settle our differences and come together, work together, and, you know, provide for our family. So shout out to Thug and Lucci for that.

[Roy]

I appreciate it. On Sad Spider of doubling down on the great manipulation of not taking accountability for what you said, but being mad at the people that recorded it. Let's just focus on that.

[Eric]

Yeah.

[Roy]

Forget what I said. Like, why. Why. Why you go through my phone? It's not. What's in the. Why are you going through my. Yeah, I. I appreciate that. He's still doubling down. Forget what I said. Why they record it, right?

[Eric]

Because if y' all ain't never recorded, we wouldn't be in his predicament.

[Roy]

He even said, try to keep everything secrecy. But they want to record it.

[Eric]

No, you're on the phones like you're in jail. It tells you when you call somebody, this call will be recorded like, so.

[Roy]

Tamara, did you listen to the outro? Or what I call the outro, because I don't really count the Miss My Dog Dreams Really Do Come True, which is the second record with Mariah the Scientist.

[Ali]

Yes.

[Roy]

I couldn't. Is his verse about Mariah? I don't think so, because I was a little confused.

[Ali]

I don't think that that verse is about Mariah. I think that verse is about somebody else.

[Roy]

Was it about the girl that possibly he was accused of sleeping with right before?

[Ali]

Possibly. Or. Or one of the. Or whatchamacallit. Devin Haney's baby mother. I can't remember who it's about, but I know it's not about Mariah. There's parts in there that are about Mariah, but it's not about Mariah.

[Roy]

He said, why would I cry over a bitch? I gave to Gunners Police ass. Yeah. This is a ballad, by the way.

[Eric]

That's one of his more heartfelt moments on the album.

[Roy]

I was hitting your friend, but cut that hoe off for you. Did it like a real one. Solid. You didn't have a clue.

[Ali]

Viral on the Internet. And now my baby mad acting like I lost my player card and went out bad. We was talking about something serious, and it just made me sad. Why would I cry over a bitch? I gave it a gun to police ass.

[Eric]

Yeah. All right. Well, if you ain't got nothing else to do, listen to the Thug album. You know what I mean?

[Ali]

If you ain't got nothing else to.

[Eric]

Do, download that Thug album. Give it some spins. See what you think.

[Roy]

Yeah, I'm just curious to see. See how it connects. I don't really have a prediction. I don't know. I could be wrong. Everyone could end up loving this in the next week.

[Eric]

But overall, what are your feelings on.

[Roy]

May just come and go.

[Eric]

Okay.

[Roy]

Not. Not saying it's bad. It's but I think it may in the climate which we've talked about a million times, how much music just like this, the is here today, going tomorrow, even with great projects, this type of album in this climate. My first thought would be this is going to come and go. But I mean, I hope something does connect. Like, I do fuck with Doug as an artist and I think he is important.

[Ali]

So have you guys listened to Big Doge? I know Maud did.

[Eric]

I. That's all I've been listening to all weekend.

[Ali]

Really?

[Roy]

What he put on his Back to the Future. What's the sneakers you got, the mags. You definitely put those on to listen to that.

[Eric]

No, I didn't do that.

[Roy]

He was walking around the house and.

[Eric]

I definitely didn't do that.

[Ali]

I haven't heard it yet. Is it more rap? Is it pop? Is it. What is it? I haven't heard it yet. I've been busy.

[Eric]

Oh, my God.

[Roy]

It's very 80s pop. Very much 80s pop.

[Eric]

This album is incredible. Incredible music. Doja, bro, Listen, man, she might be. Y' all know how I feel about Nikki, but like Doja is like right there for me. I think she. I think Doja, as far as her artistry, her talent, her vision, I think she's right there with the Beyonce's and. And the Rihanna's and all of them. Absolutely. Like her artistry and her skill set and her vision, like her stage show, her performance, everything is right. She just doesn't have the big production that those artists have. But like her talent level, her skill set.

[Ali]

You just named two artists that ain't even on the same talent level. So, like, are you putting her on a level with Rihanna?

[Eric]

No, I'm saying she's right there.

[Ali]

Or a level with Beyonce.

[Eric]

I'm saying she's right there in the same scope with those artists. She's right there.

[Ali]

What I was saying is them artists are not on the same scope as each other. That's why I was confused.

[Eric]

No, but I mean, those are like superstars.

[Ali]

Okay, you're saying she's a superstar. All right.

[Eric]

Absolutely.

[Ali]

I thought you were talking about actually.

[Eric]

Like, no, she's not on the same. No, she does. She hasn't had the success that those artists have had. But skills, skill set and talent. 1,000.

[Roy]

Okay, I agree with you there.

[Eric]

1,000.

[Roy]

She definitely has the skill set.

[Eric]

1,000%. Like she's. Bro, like you can just look at an artist and tell like if they had. Because as you know, Roy, a lot of people, a lot of what comes with the lore of a superstar is, you know, production is the production big and the stage president, all that kind of adds to. But I'm just talking about skill set, talent, vision. Like, she has all of that. I mean, anytime you see it at these. When we see it at the Met, like, she was the most talked about person on the carpet. Like, she has that thing that she has that superstar quality that those other ladies have. Without a doubt.

[Ali]

Okay. That's all I was. I just wanted to clear up because I'm. When I hear you say that you comparing Doja to Beyonce, I don't want to be hive to kill you.

[Roy]

So that's why I just want to.

[Eric]

Clear up what you're saying about that as a.

[Ali]

Don't say that Doja Cat is as talented as Beyonce. That's some crazy ass shit to say.

[Eric]

I'm saying she is.

[Ali]

Okay. Okay.

[Eric]

I don't think she's. She's not. She's not. She's not as strong vocally as Beyonce. But talent. She dances, she raps, she sings. Like, she has. She checks all of the. Her performance. She checks all of the boxes. Without a doubt. Like, Doja Cat is that type of talent. Without a doubt.

[Roy]

Skill set. Yes, I'm with you. But to put them in the same category, she would have to accomplish the same things that I feel like those.

[Eric]

But that comes with time. Yeah, that just comes with time. That's all we talking about.

[Roy]

Because, I mean, when it comes, obviously, she's not a better singer than Beyonce, not a better dancer. Catalog and hasn't done any of the tour scales that Beyonce has done. I mean, I don't even think she's there with Nikki yet, but she could be on the path to get there. Like, I think she's great. I just think she needs to accomplish more to be in those conversations.

[Eric]

When you say she's not on Nikki's level, what do you mean as far as what?

[Roy]

Skills, talent, accomplishments.

[Eric]

That's time. That comes with time, bro. You're talking about things that come with time.

[Roy]

I know, but that's what I'm getting at. Catalog, impact, hits. Like, I. I don't think DOA could stand toe to toe with Nikki and come even close in a versus.

[Eric]

Yeah, but you. Okay.

[Roy]

And that's. That's. I'm talking about songs. Just songs.

[Eric]

I'm talking about talent level, skill set.

[Roy]

Yeah.

[Eric]

Superstar quality.

[Ali]

You think that Doja Cat is when it comes to rap music, right? Rap. Because I look at Doja like a pop star. I look at Nicki as a pop Star, too, but Nicki leans more towards rap. You think that Doja can sit with Nicki talent wise with rapping?

[Eric]

Absolutely, absolutely. I think if Nicki. I think if Nicki and Doja have a get a record together where they're just rapping, I think Doja definitely holds her own. Definitely will have people like, oh, shit, I didn't know Doja was like that. Without a doubt.

[Roy]

I think she would definitely hold her own.

[Ali]

Agree.

[Roy]

But I mean, again, and it's not slight to Doja at all, but, you know, she'd be on a record with somebody that clearly had a huge influence on her.

[Eric]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Roy]

And I don't know that way everyone should be. Absolutely no influence by.

[Eric]

Listen, y' all know where I put it. But I'm just saying, like.

[Roy]

But you can hear Nicki through a lot of doja cats.

[Eric]

100%. But when you. I'm just saying, when you listen to a Doja Cat record or album and you just hear just the. Again, the talent level for somebody who is probably writing all of this shit.

[Roy]

Well, yeah. Twitter, I forgot what page it was put out. A very misleading stat that Doja Cat is the first female rapper to have only herself in the writing credits of a full album.

[Eric]

And I was like, no, well, that's wrong.

[Roy]

Yeah.

[Eric]

But to what I'm saying, she's writing all of this, whether it's a rap, pop, R B, whatever. She's like. She's writing that, she's executing it. She sounds great. If she, you know, at her show, her performance is incredible. Like, I just was talking about what she did at the VMAs. Her performance at the VMAs. She had Michael Bolton.

[Roy]

Yeah.

[Eric]

Was it Michael Bolton or Kenny G?

[Roy]

Kenny G. It was Kenny G. Yeah.

[Eric]

Kenny G. She had Kenny G come out. Like, just that attention to detail for a stage show, like, for that is that just lets you know that this is an artist that is looking at things differently. She's paying attention to the detail of everything. And that is what a superstar does to me.

[Roy]

I mean, sans fashion and producing to some degree. I know Doja Cat does produce, but she's more in a Tyler Lane to me than she would be comparing her to Nikki.

[Eric]

What?

[Roy]

Yeah, I get what Rory said.

[Eric]

No, you don't.

[Roy]

This album here, I mean, she doesn't compare to the last project, which was more. It was a rap project. She doesn't rap that much on this project. It's a pop album. So, like, that's where the. Nikki.

[Eric]

Yeah, but I'm.

[Roy]

I Wouldn't even, like, forget the.

[Eric]

The project. I'm just saying her skill set.

[Roy]

Sure. Okay. Yeah.

[Ali]

Ty, you said Tyler or Tyler?

[Roy]

Tyler. Tyler.

[Ali]

Okay.

[Eric]

Oh, okay. I thought you talking about Tyler.

[Ali]

He said Tyler and I'm like, no, no, he meant Tyler.

[Eric]

Okay, okay.

[Roy]

The creator.

[Eric]

Okay, okay, okay. Got you.

[Roy]

Gotcha. I said sans fashion and producing. Tyler produces. And I know Doja Cat produces, but I don't think she does to the degree that. That Tyler Crater does.

[Eric]

Okay.

[Roy]

And Tyler has a. Like, his fashion is over here too. But I would. I would put Joe.

[Eric]

Now you see why I was kind of like, what?

[Roy]

Yeah, no, that's all I'm saying.

[Eric]

That's all I'm saying. And there's no disrespect to Tyler.

[Roy]

I think she'd be a weird.

[Eric]

But I'm just saying for you to say that, I was like, how are you comparing that?

[Roy]

But okay, yeah, I would put her more in a comparison there than Nikki, who obviously does have pop hits and does sing. But Nikki is, at the end of the day, like, you think rapper first, hardcore rapper first. Whereas Doja, you know, is spread across the whole spectrum when it comes to music. This album being one of those where she's rapping. I love her raps, but that wasn't the focus on this. This was way more melodic. Way, way more in the sense, like, this was. It was an 80s pop album.

[Eric]

Yeah.

[Roy]

My only critique of it, because I really do love it. It's a little too on the nose of 80s pop. I would have liked to her to make it more of her own. I think it is, like, straight up, like, hey, I'm making an 80s pop album. Bruno.

[Ali]

Marcy.

[Roy]

No, no, no. Not in that. Like, it doesn't need to be warmer. It's just like. Like, all right. Day and Night to me was like a Cuddy. It was a weird version of, like, an 80s pop record, but Cudi made it his own and made it in this time. This doesn't sound like an 80s album in 2025. It just sounds like an 80s pop album that Doja Cat is singing, rapping over, which is fine. I think it's great.

[Eric]

I think that's production was fire. I think that's what she was trying to do. Now the content is definitely Doja.

[Roy]

Hell, yeah.

[Eric]

What she's saying is definitely Doja.

[Roy]

She's talking. She's talking shit on you.

[Eric]

But the music is. I think that's what she wanted. She wanted to kind of capture that sound that, you know, that. That energy of 80s pop and I think she did that, but she's. I think she still kept it. Doja with the lyrics and with content, for sure. Yeah.

[Roy]

Yeah. This is definitely a tour that I will pay.

[Eric]

Oh, no. I'm going to the show.

[Roy]

Like, this is going to be.

[Eric]

I'm going to the show at the Garden. Without a doubt. I'm not missing doja again. It's not happening.

[Roy]

What happens when, like, the lights go too crazy? Epilepsy. What do you get? I would like. I want to get epilepsy at the Garden.

[Ali]

I'm ali.

[Roy]

If it's 80s themed with all the lasers, like, yeah, I want this to be that.

[Eric]

Yeah, I'm definitely going to 100. I'm not. I was mad I missed her last tour. We got to la, I think the day after. She just ended the tour. That's not happening this year. I will be at the Garden for that doja show, without a doubt. Got to see her live. She's one of those artists that I just. I feel like I have to see it. I have to actually go to the show and just. Just see it and feel the energy and what her fan base is.

[Ali]

I'm mad. I miss Global Citizen Fest in New York this weekend.

[Eric]

What is that?

[Ali]

It was like. Like a. Kind of like a. Not really a festival, but a festival. Global Citizen. They had Tyler. They had Cardi B up there performing pregnant. They had Mariah the scientist. They had a bunch of people. I was heartbroken. Did. No, I don't think Dosha performed, but it was a lot of people.

[Eric]

I never heard of Global Citizens.

[Ali]

Really? Wow. Yeah, it was in New York this weekend, but.

[Eric]

So it's just like a festival.

[Roy]

Yeah, it's been going on for. For a while now. Was it at Shea Stadium?

[Ali]

No, it was on some lawn.

[Eric]

It was on some lawn.

[Ali]

No, I'm for real.

[Eric]

Oh, that's a lawn. Central park is a lawn, so. Yeah, I get it. Pharrell, Alicia Keys, One Republic Her. Carol King.

[Ali]

Yeah, that's very old. That's 2019, baby. Oh, I'm like her.

[Roy]

That was when the world was okay.

[Eric]

Yeah.

[Ali]

I'm like her. Yeah. The. It is called the great law in Central Park. I knew I wasn't crazy. Shakira, Cardi B. Tyler, Ira Starr, Mariah, Scientists, Camilo, Eliana.

[Eric]

Yeah.

[Roy]

Okay. Oh, I'm sure that was fun.

[Ali]

Yeah, we missed it, but it's fine.

[Roy]

Well, yeah, check out Doja Cat's album. I'm curious to see what the visuals look like on this. I'm actually shocked with that Type of production that she didn't release. Like similar like what Beyonce did with this self titled album. Like a visual for every single song. Because this is one of those that I think like every song warrants. Even if they did like a short film of all the songs, I think that would make sense because there's so much you can do with that 80s pop for sure. But yeah, other than that, she's been on a run. I mean last from 2021 to 2025. Four projects. Like she's staying super consistent for being a list artist.

[Eric]

Like, she's incredible, man. I love to Cat. Like I'm like a Doja Cat fan.

[Ali]

I love that.

[Eric]

Like a real Doja Cat fan.

[Roy]

Maybe she's come on the pod.

[Eric]

Yeah, let's get those on, man. I might dm. Let me. I'll DM and see if she. She responds.

[Roy]

And if she can't come on, we can maybe just do like a. Like a chat online.

[Eric]

Yeah, something. Yes.

[Roy]

A little chat with her.

[Eric]

Having a zoom zoom room. She can show us her feet now.

[Roy]

She's not gonna answer her Bad Bunny impression. Keep the theme of the racist chat.

[Eric]

But shout out to Doja Cat. Definitely listen to that album. It's, you know, if you appreciate that type of art and attention to detail with artists. Like, I think this Doja album is for you.

[Roy]

Also over the weekend, which I saw late. I hope Absol is okay. He was on. On the Radar and Kai have their collab where they've been doing freestyles. Smino was just up there. They've had a lot of people. It looks great. Congrats to Gabe. I think this is. This is amazing. And I love that Kai is implementing this type of stuff on his platform. Absol went up there. We've seen Absol smoke countless freestyles. This one, I guess was really for free. Is that okay?

[Ali]

It's really free. He's funny as shit. I'm sorry.

[Roy]

We love Absol up here.

[Eric]

He kind of. He. He fumbled. He. He dropped. He dropped the mic. He, you know, forgot his bars and you know, every rapper has had one of these moments. It just so happens to be on the biggest streamers platform and then on one of the biggest freestyle platforms. So a lot of people, everybody saw this. So it's kind of like it's the bad time to drop the mic and fumble. That's just the bad time.

[Roy]

Yeah. Cause this is the time like finally, you know, obviously flex sway leakers. Like, I'm not going to act like freestyles are not still important or get highlighted. But for the younger kids on this platform, they rarely do.

[Eric]

Yeah.

[Roy]

So this to me, for the people that could freestyle for real, this is like your time to really.

[Eric]

Yeah, like AB is one of the.

[Roy]

Now it finally matters to do this.

[Eric]

Yeah, he's one of the real rappers, real, you know, real bar spitters. So for him to.

[Roy]

AB is an alien.

[Eric]

Yeah. For him to have his moment up there like that and you know, not deliver as we know AB to deliver, it's like, it's tough to see that. Cause again, everybody saw this is. Again, this is biggest streamers platform. Like everybody's watching this. So for him to have a hiccup, let's just call it a hiccup.

[Roy]

I mean, it was a long pause hiccup.

[Eric]

I mean, sometimes you gotta hold your breath, but how. That's how you get rid of hiccups. You gotta hold your breath. Yeah, there you go.

[Roy]

See, AB did respond, but I mean, I'll save you guys some time. Of the four minute response, he didn't really say much of anything in the response. Just that he was okay and he had a bad day and that he.

[Eric]

Fumbled and it's okay.

[Ali]

Play as up.

[Roy]

I. If you can't really freestyle. I know AB can actually freestyle. I've heard him freestyle in person. He can freestyle. Do we want real freestyles? Because I don't.

[Eric]

Well, I don't. I want your written well, freestyle. The word freestyle, it took on a whole different definition. It's not, you know, back in the days where mc, a real mc, a real rapper could stand there and just start rapping about anything that's going on around them in the room. Guys are not doing that. These are just bars that rappers have for when they know they're going on these type of platforms. It's not gonna be bars you're gonna hear on songs. Sometimes you do hear some of them on songs and things like that. But these are not just off the top. Don't know what I'm about to say. About to draw inspiration from the room and just rap about it. This is not that. Those days, the MCs that do that are very far and few in between. There's not a lot of MCs that can still do that. And like you said, I don't even know if I want that. Like write something knowing that you're going on Kai's platform. Write something. Write whatever, 60 bars that you can just, you know, just get rid of on that platform to showcase your skills and just. I call it throwing away those bars. Cause you can't use them again. Just throw those bars out there, you know, and that's it. But don't go on these platforms trying to. Because that's, again, that's reserved for a select few. Very few people can do that.

[Roy]

I mean, I can't even think, like, the last person that. I think that I'm gonna sound like I'm trolling. I think Charles Hamilton was maybe the last person I've ever seen that, like, I don't mind if you freestyle, because he was actually, like, good at it. But other than that, give me a written. If you want to throw In a.

[Eric]

Freestyle, 12 low still does that.

[Roy]

Okay. Los. Oh, yeah, yeah. But even with Los will give you like 12 freestyle, then get back to a written, then go freestyle.

[Eric]

Yeah, yeah. But he can still. He's one of the few that can still.

[Roy]

You know, LOS is exempt for sure.

[Eric]

Sit down. Sit down in front of a mic and, you know, you just turn a beat on. And he might not have. Well, he always got bars, but he might literally just freestyle about what's going on.

[Roy]

Yeah, but AB, I would have preferred a written Absol32 on this one punch. Also tweeted that him and AB were laughing about it. Like, everybody has a bad day. Which, again, I hope that is the case. I hope AB is cool, because I know a lot of people were like, yo, you know, AB has admitted that he's had some mental health problems.

[Eric]

Damn. It's. Look, you. You fumble. Yeah, you fumble. Start asking if you all right. I'm good, fam. I just forgot my bars. Like, start asking about your mental health. What's going on at home? She was having a stroke. Yeah. Yo, you.

[Roy]

When you're absol. Yeah. Because AB is one of them. Like, we know AB could rap. Rap.

[Eric]

Yeah. But I didn't see that and be like, Yo, A.B. going through it.

[Roy]

Everybody in the group chat that I was in was like, yo, is AB on drugs? He have another.

[Eric]

Like, yo, I got a drug. You can't just forget your bars. Like, yo, he. I. Yo, somebody check. Yo, he's fine. I just. I was like, yo, he just fumbled. Now, what I thought he did was. And I don't know why rappers even still do this. I was like, he probably smoked right before he started rapping. And the thing is, when you smoke, like, you get cotton mouth, you know, your tongue get heavy sometimes depending on the strand. And you. You know what I'm saying? It's hard to. It's hard to speak, let alone rap and stay on beating and remember, like, so I'm like, I hope he didn't smoke and then go sit down. Because I never. Even when I see a lot of dudes, like, battle rapping and you could tell they smoked right before they went on stage, I'm like, I don't know why they do that. Like, you're gonna get cottonmouth and, like, you're high, so it's like your mind is just, like, you know, all over the place, really. Like, you thinking about all kind of shit. Your body feels good. Like, you just. I don't know why rappers continue to do that. Unless you're doing something. Like, you know, you're at a show and obviously you know the songs. That's when you're performing, the crowd knows the songs. But if you going somewhere freestyling or battle rapping and you smoke, I don't know why these dudes do that. I cannot figure it out. Like, why would you even set yourself up like that? Yeah.

[Roy]

And sometimes just maybe be like, I don't want to freestyle.

[Eric]

Well, no, you can't say that while you're there.

[Roy]

I feel. And no disrespect to Melly, but, yeah, he should have told Sway, I'm good. I don't need to freestyle today. Instead of going.

[Eric]

Well, yeah, you can't do that either. That's true.

[Roy]

You just be like, nah.

[Eric]

Yeah, you could be like, nah, I'm not coming up there to do that. I'm not.

[Roy]

Yeah, like, maybe another time. Cause I.

[Eric]

But what AB should do is put out a video with him. Whatever he was going to spit. Yeah, just drop a video. Get your balls still get the bars off. Don't let, like, don't go out like that. Definitely still get your bars off.

[Roy]

But I mean, I think it's a. Which is fucked up. I think everyone in my in group chats and online saying, is AB okay is more of a compliment because we're used to how good AB is. And then this was that. So, yeah, it was like, damn.

[Eric]

But question is, somebody's mental health, because.

[Roy]

They forgot AB has been very open about some of his mental health issues.

[Eric]

And I understand that, but I didn't get that from him just forgetting his bars on Kai's stream. Like, I didn't be like, yo, damn. I hope. Hope AB is all right. Like, I was just like, yo, he just, you know, he fumbled. It's okay.

[Roy]

Maybe Drew Ski can bring him out at his next. His next show.

[Ali]

Yeah. Why?

[Roy]

To perform that freestyle.

[Ali]

Why are they killing Drewski? What's going on?

[Eric]

So he had. Drew Ski had his. He's on. I think it's a tour. And they stopped in Toronto, and people on, or I guess Toronto Twitter, they. It would have to be Toronto Twitter. They was at the show, right? Yeah, yeah. So they was out and they was expressing their disappointment, saying that they didn't understand what was going on. The show was trash. Drew Ski said that, you know, they didn't let Soulja Boy cross the border. I guess Soulja Boy is supposed to be at the show as well. So maybe that was, you know, something that threw the whole rhythm of the show off, I don't know. But Toronto Twitter was upset at the show. They were trashing it, saying the show was awful. Save your money. Don't go to the show. I mean, I don't want to pump that. I mean, I didn't see the show, so I don't know what happened. But Toronto Twitter and the people that were at the show were absolutely pissed off, and they were mad about. They were asking for refunds, expeditiously. Want a refund meaning send that right now. The best part of Jusky Toronto show was the fight in the crowd after the lights cut on. So when you start reading things like that, and then it's not fair, too, because we've seen this happen. Some of these niggas wasn't even at the show. They just start reading shit online and they just want to jump in on it and, you know, start dog piling. Drew Ski, he's still one of my favorite followers on Instagram. Drew Ski is hilarious, for sure. Not sure what his live show looks like, though. I've never. I've never been to a Drew Ski live show, but some people at the Toronto show obviously were upset and, you know, mad at the show.

[Roy]

I think people were expecting more skits and more performances where it wasn't that, from what I was reading, outside of the people that were just hating, people that were, like, giving constructive criticism, I guess he did one skit with a piano, but everything else was more like him just talking for a second and then, like, young, Young and Mayo come out and then just talking like it wasn't what they were expecting with what Drew Ski's platform has been. And, I mean, I guess that kind of begs the question of can promo videos and announcements actually you over in the long run, because that was one of the coolest tour announcements ever that I can remember as of late, when Drewski did that, with everyone saying, I'll be there this and that, and I'll be the one to tell you. Peach can tell you as well. Consumers don't read flyers. I could put the date, the time and the location, all the comments will be, when is it? What location? What time do the doors open? Nobody reads shit. So if somebody saw that amazing tour video. Yeah. I'm gonna think Biba Velli and Big Draco are gonna be there. Like, I'm waiting to see Justin Bieber do all that matters to me in Toronto.

[Eric]

Yeah.

[Roy]

Like, if anybody went to the video, man.

[Eric]

If anybody went to thinking Bieber was going to be there, like, come on.

[Roy]

He said in the video.

[Eric]

He didn't say Bieber was going to be at the Toronto show.

[Roy]

Can we pull up the Drew Ski.

[Eric]

And now if he said that.

[Roy]

I know. I'm not saying he said he'd be at the Toronto show.

[Eric]

Okay.

[Roy]

I'm saying fans don't read flyer. So the Toronto show could have been very specific out of that announcement video. These are the only people that will be here. But I'm telling you, people do not read flyers whatsoever.

[Eric]

If you went to a Drew Ski show expecting Justin Bieber to perform, like, you're just stupid.

[Ali]

Yeah.

[Eric]

You're just. Like, you just. You're the person that shouldn't be at the show, in my opinion. Like, there's no way you thought Justin Bieber was performing at a Druski show. Like, you didn't think that.

[Roy]

Yeah. I mean, but if you do a.

[Ali]

In Toronto, Bieber living in la.

[Eric]

I mean, he's from Canada. He can get to Toronto if he needs to, but he won't be.

[Ali]

He won't be lying to Drew Ski show.

[Eric]

No.

[Ali]

From la. Like, no.

[Roy]

Okay, but if I. I see a trailer, there's all of these people saying, I'll be there. Like. Like, I want Snoop there.

[Ali]

I think that's stupid.

[Roy]

Okay. All right. I started this by saying people that buy tickets, myself included, are stupid.

[Ali]

Oh, okay, cool.

[Roy]

We see a trailer and think, oh, that's the tour is these people. I just gave you an example of anytime we did Palooza, which is at a way lower scale than this, people would ask what the date would be in the biggest font ever. It'd be like, what day is it? People do not read that shit. They just see this and see Toronto. That date right there. After you had Snoop Bieber, Soulja Boy, G, Herbo, all these people on your FaceTime thing, that's what they're gonna think, and they're gonna get there and be disappointed.

[Eric]

Yeah, yeah, I mean, I understand that. People, they don't read. They don't you know? But again, Bieber, come on, man.

[Roy]

Is it far fetched to think that Beeves would be at the Canada one? Yes, from Canada.

[Eric]

I think that's very far fetched from.

[Roy]

The outskirts of Toronto. I can see that happening. But either way, I mean, give it a chance. Maybe Drew Ski will fix.

[Eric]

When is he. When is he in New York?

[Ali]

Let's see.

[Eric]

I want to go to the New York show.

[Roy]

October 11th.

[Ali]

Oh, that's like in a week and a half.

[Eric]

Okay.

[Ali]

Oh, sorry. October 11th.

[Eric]

Okay. Yeah, I might check that out. I might go to the Juski show just to see it. I with Juicy, so definitely want to support him.

[Roy]

Okay. And I mean, this one, I'm on BarclaysCenter.com event information. Caleb Presley, Big X, the Plug, Soulja Boy, Young Ma Nav, and special guests. So, I mean, I think some of those other guests will probably all just be in la.

[Eric]

Okay.

[Roy]

And this is the. The traveling one, because I did cbx. The Plug was in Toronto. Soulja Boy caught up at the border, which isn't a Drew Ski thing. Like, that happens pretty often. But I feel like they should have let Big Draco in. Like, Drake could have made that call.

[Eric]

Drake called for Big Draco? Yeah.

[Roy]

They're cool, right?

[Eric]

I don't know.

[Roy]

Okay.

[Eric]

You asking me for I don't know Nas from Canada.

[Roy]

He could make that call. It's crazy.

[Eric]

Yeah. I don't know if Nav has that pull at the border like that, but you never know. I don't know you. Right. I'm saying I don't think he has that bull at the border.

[Roy]

Have you ever been to a show that you felt like, completely finessed at?

[Eric]

Completely finessed? Not really. Not really. I've never been to a show where I feel like, damn, I want my money back.

[Roy]

Like, yeah. I don't know if I've been to one. I've been to shows where I was a little disappointed, but I was like.

[Eric]

Damn, they don't sound good in person. I've done that. But I didn't walk out of there and hop online, say, give me my refund expeditiously. Like, I never did. I never did that. But I mean, it happens. I get it. I understand. I understand people going out and expecting one thing, but I just. I. It just as Drew Ski, if you sitting at the dressing room and you reading that, like, in real time, like, what are your thoughts? Like, damn, like, they killing me right now. That has to sold out show.

[Roy]

You see, like, it's like, exit speech. No, I Didn't see his ex speech.

[Eric]

He's like, I know you're a.

[Roy]

Like, I'm sorry.

[Ali]

I know y' all bored as a.

[Eric]

I'm sorry he said that. I know y' all bored as a.

[Ali]

I tried my best.

[Roy]

I mean, he. I'm sure he could feel in the crowd. First of all, it's in an arena. Just talking in an arena is very hard. I don't care how funny.

[Eric]

You can't say that.

[Roy]

Some of. Some of the greatest standup comedians ever are like, I'm not doing an arena. There's. It's so hard to even connect with an audience and then to not even be a stand up. Even though Drew Ski is a legit hilarious comedian, he's not a stand up comedian. Yeah, that's tough to do that with a whole arena standing there. And then it's like, well, here's Young Ma.

[Eric]

Ooh.

[Roy]

And then. Oh, that was Young Ma. Make some noise. Okay. And that's when Big X the plug.

[Ali]

That's when it's time for, like, that's times like, that is when your team needs to talk to whoever the booking team was that insisted on these arenas so that they can get their fucking 10% or 20% cut of ticket sales and say, hey, we shouldn't do this or that of, hey, you can sell this out. Just because you can't sell something out doesn't mean you should.

[Roy]

Or you just need to rehearse and have, like, a full script. Like, you can't freestyle everything. And I'm not saying that's what Drew Ski did, but that's how the fans, at least on Twitter, felt like there was one real, like, skit on a piano, then the rest of the. He was just talking shit.

[Ali]

Yeah.

[Roy]

Like, you need to have Paul, a tight show, like, for this 10 minutes. This is exactly what we're doing. There's a script.

[Eric]

I know what Drew Ski is supposed to do. I'm not gonna say it, though, but I know what he's supposed to do. I know exactly how he gets around that.

[Roy]

I think he should come out as each of his biggest characters.

[Eric]

I know what he's supposed to do.

[Ali]

There's that. I also think that his love show, that needs to be a sketch that's in the show.

[Roy]

Yeah. Like those. Those girls need to come out with him.

[Ali]

His talent show, his love show. Like, all of those things need to be. Especially his talent show.

[Roy]

Well, that was. That was one of the comments that got the most traction on Twitter. Said it felt like a talent, a kid's talent show in an arena. Yeah.

[Eric]

You can't do that because then. Cause now you're relying on, you know, people to be entertaining. Like if you're doing a talent show like at an arena, like you're doing like your, your show that you do on, you know, on, on social media, it's like, oh, on YouTube, like, yeah, I have my, you know, casting call. If you want to call the people come in. That's, that's, that's, that's.

[Roy]

You can't do.

[Eric]

You can't expect people to buy a ticket to see that.

[Roy]

But even if you're, if you're adding some of that into like a quick 10 minute part between performers. Like when Drew Ski does his A and R could have been records thing, when someone comes out and he's got the two security guards and like roast the person. You know that sketch, he can do that with people in the crowd. Like they can grab three, four people.

[Eric]

Nah.

[Roy]

And just have them walk out. They don't know. They don't get a microphone or nothing. Drew Ski is funny on the spot. Let's not act like he can't roast somebody real quick.

[Ali]

Like you just said, it needs to be a tight show. As few things on the spot as possible. You can hire an actor to do that. Yeah, that sketch, you hire two fucking actors. Everything is already set up. That's how you do that sketch. I would not pull people from the crowd. Y' all have pulled people from the crowd before. Y' all know how that goes.

[Roy]

Pull people from the crowd? Yeah.

[Eric]

Who's gonna be in a crowd? Bieber.

[Roy]

You've never seen his could have been records as a. And Arthur.

[Eric]

Yeah.

[Roy]

It's not artists we know. It's just random people that are trying to.

[Eric]

But I'm saying if they're not entertaining.

[Roy]

No, they wouldn't have a microphone. I'm saying if they got actors that would be in the crowd that they could pull for that sketch for the could have been records.

[Eric]

Like, I know what he's supposed to do.

[Ali]

You gonna tell him or you ain't gonna give him free free info?

[Eric]

No, I ain't giving that no free info.

[Roy]

That's crazy. That's hate.

[Eric]

No, it's not. They hate it all. I don't know Drew Ski. He don't know me. I'm not hating, like, but I know, I know how he gets around that. To still keep it on brand with his brand. He just, he just got to tweak it. But I think he's. I think Drew Ski is incredibly talented and funny, so he gonna figure it out. But going on stage saying, I know, that sucked. You're not supposed to do that either, though.

[Roy]

Like, you gotta acknowledge the bomb.

[Eric]

You gotta. Yeah, yeah. You gotta just take that in the green room with your team and just kind of like, re. You know, regroup and come back out stronger next time. But you don't say that to the fans as they're exiting, like, nah, can't do that.

[Roy]

I mean, at least the timeline wasn't as bad as when TI did stand up in Barclays Center. You remember that?

[Eric]

Oh, yes, I do remember that. Is T.I. still doing comedy?

[Roy]

I think that was his last show.

[Eric]

Oh.

[Roy]

Started at the Barclays, ended at the.

[Eric]

Barclays, ended at the Barclays.

[Roy]

Did an arena, and then retired. Right?

[Eric]

That's it. Grand opening, grand closing.

[Roy]

Why. Why did TI Stop podcasting? It was, like, a pretty good podcast.

[Eric]

He got that big settlement. Him and. Him and his wife got that. What's the name of OMG Girls. Yeah.

[Roy]

Oh, yeah. No need to pot anymore.

[Eric]

What are we doing? Like, are you kidding me?

[Ali]

That might have gotten. I remember they were talking about getting that reversed.

[Roy]

Nah, if the money go to my account, I'm never going.

[Eric]

Yeah, that's it. Go. Next day y' all go to. Yeah, next day, y' all go to the account. That's gone. That's already. We already went through that. Yeah, that. We took that out. We took that out last night. That's a fact. But I do.

[Roy]

I did remember, read guns with that.

[Ali]

I did reduced it. They reduced it. They reduced it and ordered a new trial.

[Eric]

Oh, so they didn't get paid yet.

[Roy]

Oh, damn.

[Eric]

Oh, wow. Damn. All right, well, T.I. barclays is open.

[Roy]

Go to Guitar Center. Get those mics, man. It's time to pot again.

[Eric]

It's time to pot again expeditiously.

[Roy]

That's hilarious. Finally, Nas. We got one, man. We got one over Hove.

[Eric]

Oh, my.

[Roy]

It took 20 years, but Queen's back on top.

[Ali]

Queens get the money.

[Roy]

Ether right to the casino. Sorry, H.O.V. we won this one.

[Eric]

Was this a H.O.V. nas battle?

[Roy]

I think. Now, you were saying H.O.V. had no reason to put an album out. The day that this casino opens, we're getting a Hove double disc for sure. He might do a residency in that casino.

[Eric]

Yeah, that ain't gonna happen, but shout out to NASA. That's big, but. So I was reading it. I don't know if. If he is actually a part of it, though. I think they said they were using his. His likeness and his Influence. I don't know if he's on pit now. I'm sure he got something from it.

[Roy]

For those that don't know, but I.

[Eric]

Think him and him and what he did with this and what Jay was doing with the Caesars in Times Square were two totally different things.

[Roy]

Yeah, they're definitely different. If you remember a couple weeks. Well, a couple months now at this point, NASA put out that trailer video of his partnership with casino in Vegas and opening that. He does have some form of a partnership with resort world casinos. Jay was bidding to open Caesars in Times Square.

[Eric]

Yeah.

[Roy]

Now Nas, I mean, yes, this is a win in our world, but there's already a casino in Queens. As is, the laws are drastically different than Times Square. So this wasn't like a crazy approval. I think people saw this coming. And, you know, good. Good for Nas and Anthony. They've. They've been investing. I mean, they're probably both billionaires together at this point. For what they've invested in, they've been making great moves. So congrats to Nas and this casino that's, you know, just going to be added on to where the other one is. Howard beach is going to be booming. Yeah. I think. I think the mob might be back now.

[Eric]

Back.

[Roy]

Aqueduct. I'm gonna go crazy.

[Eric]

Never left, baby.

[Roy]

But I heard Jay and Roc Nation are going to try to bid again for the Times Square situation.

[Eric]

He'll get it. Just. They just didn't want to give it to him on the first shot.

[Ali]

Yeah, they got the right people.

[Eric]

They got grease.

[Roy]

They got to grease a few more.

[Eric]

You got it. You know they're going to make you work for it, man. They're like, listen, man, great idea. Makes sense. But first shot, I mean, we're not going to let you. We're not going to let you get it on the first shot. Yeah, but I think they'll. They'll, you know, they'll come back to the table in another year or two. And. And, you know, I think eventually it will happen, though.

[Roy]

Yeah. And I mean, even, you know, coming from New York City in regards to the one in Queensland, we are incredibly grateful for the large number of residents, partners, supporters who put on this project without a single person speaking against it. This is a testament to our mission solidified over the last 15 years to be the best neighbor possible in Queens for the casino. So this has taken them 15 years to even get right. Hove's been working on this one for two years.

[Eric]

Two or three years.

[Roy]

It's going to take some time. Charlemagne you're going to have to come back to Manhattan Plaza more and more. I'm going to have to see your face. Just, just. Just lying to Dame's face on the Breakfast Club. Dame just telling your business. Are you just sitting there lying?

[Eric]

Yeah.

[Roy]

No, that's cool. Nah, you just like going to Manhattan Plaza, don't you, Charlemagne? Yeah.

[Eric]

Oh, my God.

[Roy]

But, yeah, I mean, listen, I see the good and bad with the casinos. Of course, they. They do bring more. The one in times crime statistically happens when you put a casino anywhere. That's just the nature of it, but.

[Eric]

And when you let Eric Adams run the city.

[Roy]

No, if. If he didn't drop out of the mayor race, Caesars would already been built by now.

[Eric]

No, that's why with his face on it, he dropped out so he could be a part of this.

[Roy]

It was a conflict of interest. It was like when Hope had to sell the net so he could be a sports agent.

[Eric]

Exactly. He's like, y', all, I gotta draw, okay? I can't be mayor and be a part of the Caesar's thing. All right, cool. No worry now.

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[Roy]

Xboom. Okay. Do we have voicemails?

[Eric]

You've got mail.

[Roy]

These are sponsored by Boost. We're getting right to voicemails because everyone in the room will not let me talk about Israel buying Tick tock. So we'll just go right into these voicemails.

[Ali]

Thank you.

[Eric]

Yo, yo, yo, what up, new Rory and mall fam? It's your boy Eric from Long Island. The rocking with y' all since y' all was dubbed Sunflower and Sunset. So I've been around for a minute, man. What's up, Baby D? What's up, Josh? What's up, Peach? Much love to y', all, man. Hope y' all staying blessed. I'm very proud of what y' all have accomplished with the pod, man. Thank you. So here's my question. Do y' all think. And I want to hear from everybody in the room and definitely the marriage, because, you know, I need the perspective of a woman on this. Do y' all think that men get more attention from women when they are in a relationship than when they are single? Genuinely curious to know. If you guys. You guys have any more questions, I'll definitely call back in and check in. But for the very, you know, for just the actual question itself. Do you guys think that's a thing? Let me know. Peace. Do guys get more attention from women when they're single versus when they're in a relationship? Times change. I don't think nobody gives a. Whether you're in a relationship or not anymore. I don't think I just saw somebody. Oh, it was actually Cardi. She was talking about how men respect when a woman is married or when a man. Men respect a woman's marriage more than women respect a woman's marriage. Like, Cardi was just. I just saw someone talking about that. She was like, you know, like when she was married and everybody knows, guys would never even attempt to speak to her, say anything to her, flirt with her. None of that. She was like. But the women, she was like, they didn't give a fuck. Like they was throwing themselves at offset them. Like, they just didn't. Didn't care.

[Ali]

Niggas be. Men don't do it because a lot of times they know it's. They're gonna get shot down. Men be easy. They be married or not.

[Eric]

Women are easy too. Married or not.

[Ali]

Sometimes, Ma. But more than likely.

[Eric]

No, it ain't more than like, where you getting that stat from? Okay, who did you survey?

[Ali]

You know what?

[Eric]

Who did you survey? I'm Sorry. Who did you survey?

[Ali]

The episode. I don't got.

[Eric]

Who did you survey?

[Roy]

You.

[Eric]

You can't just say these things. And you ain't ask no questions. You can't say that. All right, cool. We didn't see women be too.

[Ali]

You got me. You got me.

[Eric]

We don't see women be too. Is all I'm saying. You can't say that. Okay. Don't just say men are. Women are.

[Ali]

Okay.

[Roy]

Who do you think is more, a married man or a married woman?

[Eric]

In my heart, who I think is more. It depends on who the person is. Okay. I know women that are married. That was other guys.

[Roy]

100%.

[Eric]

Yeah. So I'm just saying it depends on. You can't say it's men low. Women fuck and men fuck. Women get horny and men get horny. You can't just say, make that statement like, nah, men is fuckable. Women is fuckable. Women will jerk you off and suck your dick with the rock on their finger.

[Roy]

That's crazy.

[Eric]

I've seen it happen.

[Roy]

That's nuts.

[Eric]

I'm just saying. So we can't just say, make that statement. I'm just. And not only that, Cardi just spoke to the fact that women was throwing themselves at. Like, men were respecting her. Men wasn't even trying to talk to her when she was. When she was married.

[Ali]

That was. I think that was my point that you missed. Yeah. Men weren't trying to talk to her, not because they didn't want to talk to her, but they knew that there was a very low likelihood of her fucking them. That's why they didn't shoot at her. Not because they didn't want to fuck her, but because they knew it was a low likelihood of the fact.

[Eric]

The fact that you're missing is the marriage. So when you say men are fuckable. Yeah, but women are fuckable too. But the fact that she was married, N. S. Was like, nah, she married. But now it was just, she's dating. Offset might have been shooting at her all day like, yo, what's good? Like, yo, can I take you out? But marriage, when it's sacred like that, not only that, but because men know the dangers in another man's wife, because now it can go a whole nother way. Now you do find out, you trying to talk to his wife or his wife stepped out on him. Now it can escalate to something else. So that's the number one reason why men respect women's marriages. Because it's like, yo, bro, that's somebody's wife, though. He not like, like he gonna crash out over his family, over his wife. But if it's just somebody you're dating, dudes don't be caring about a girl having a boyfriend or she's seeing somebody, it's still trying to talk to her. You married, Rocking your finger? Family live in the same home? Nah, I'm not, I'm not with that. I'm not, I'm not.

[Roy]

Okay. But there's also a fame aspect to we're talking about with Cardi and Offset as well.

[Eric]

Take them out of it. I'm just saying, any married couple, I.

[Roy]

Mean, I think across the board in 2025, people don't really care that much to begin with. His, his question of do you get more attention in a relationship? I don't know. I guess. Is he speaking more to the person that flaunts their relationship? I guess that like posts it all over their Instagram or is like always forward facing with a relationship?

[Eric]

I don't, I mean, I guess he's just asking like, do you get more attention?

[Roy]

Somebody wouldn't know if like you were just walking down the street. A girl's not going to be like, oh, he's in a relationship. I want to give him more attention because.

[Eric]

Right.

[Roy]

I guess it would have to be in the circumstances where it's somebody. Let's just use Instagram. Because that's how most people meet these days. I think he's speaking more to like, yo, when I start posting my girl, then I start getting more and more dms.

[Eric]

Okay.

[Roy]

Yeah, I can probably see that. I think women have a way of testing the waters. If you post your girl, like, they'll do it in an innocent way just to test the waters, just to see what you'll say where no matter what they could, if you reject it, it could be like, oh, no, it was just like saying, y' all look good together. But if you keep talking. All right, now I see there's some rhythm and a temperature here.

[Eric]

Or could it be that you just notice the attention more when you're single versus when you're in a relationship?

[Roy]

Stresses you out more.

[Eric]

Yeah. Like, you could probably notice the attention, notice the energy, notice the flirtation more when you're single. Like, oh, she kind of throwing it.

[Roy]

At me versus monitor it to make.

[Eric]

Sure if I'm in a happy, healthy relationship and I love my girl. And so it's like you don't even know that shorty was just flirting with you. Cause you not even that frequent. You know what I'm saying? You're not even your antennas is not even up for that. You like, nigga, I'm happy with my relationship. I don't even notice if a girl just says something, and that could be taken flirtatious versus if I'm single. I think everything is flirtatious. Nigga, I'm out here horny. I'm sorry. Yeah, when you single, you just like, yo.

[Roy]

That's a soundbite, by the way.

[Eric]

Yo, I'm out here horny. I'm out here horny. Like, everything is a flirt when you single. Everything is a flirt. Like a girl show you to your seat. You like, yo, she trying to give it up. Like, it. She works here. Like, yeah, but. Nah, but she, like, walked me all the way to my seat. Like, usually she could have just said yo, right down there. But she, like, walked me to my joint, made sure I was comfortable.

[Roy]

Like, yeah, you see, she just took her top off. We're at a strip club.

[Eric]

Yeah. Yo, she got naked in front of me.

[Roy]

Yeah. Like, yo, I'm chilling. All of a sudden, she naked.

[Eric]

Yeah, we had Magic City fan. That's what they. That's what they do in here. Like, nah, she want me. No, she don't. But yeah, I'm single.

[Roy]

Friends so much.

[Eric]

Does she want me? Friend? Yeah.

[Roy]

God, yeah. But that friend is the worst.

[Eric]

But that's young, though. That's like, you got to grow out of that phase, though. You can't just think every woman wants you. But when you're young, you just. Again, you horny. You be horny out here.

[Roy]

I mean, you ever specially test. Test that water of, like, flirting with somebody, but you shouldn't think that every woman wants you.

[Eric]

Yeah, no, absolutely.

[Roy]

But do we have another voicemail? I don't have much advice for him to answer his question. Yeah, I think certain women see a man in a relationship and are more.

[Eric]

Attractive, especially if you, like, you treat your girl good. Like you had a good relationship. Like, women are attracted to that. And some, you know, some respect the relationship, and we will never do that. But then you got some. That's like, I don't know that bitch. Yeah.

[Roy]

I mean, Chris Rock had a great joke that when he would tell all his boys about a girl, all his friends would be like, damn, I got to get a girl like that. And then when she would go tell all her friends about him, all her friends would be like, I need him.

[Eric]

Yeah, yeah, him right there. Specifically. Not somebody like him.

[Roy]

His friends were like, I need a girl like that.

[Eric]

Like that.

[Roy]

Yeah, yeah, 100% it's just a joke, Doris. He's a comedian. He wasn't being.

[Eric]

He's a comedian. That's what he does for a living.

[Ali]

Don't try to paint me like I'm being sensitive, yo.

[Roy]

Like I'm not.

[Ali]

All right, cool.

[Roy]

Just Puerto Rican.

[Eric]

Puerto Rican? She's not Puerto Rican.

[Roy]

There's a callback. Hey. Hey.

[Eric]

With the pod. But I got a hot question real quick. A hot question. So say, for instance, Elon Musk come up to you and say, I got a hundred billion dollars.

[Ali]

Oh, Lord.

[Eric]

But I gotta put a chip in your head that records every thought you have for the rest of your life.

[Ali]

Won't thug of me.

[Eric]

Would you take the hundred billion?

[Roy]

I probably wouldn't have the hundred billion after the first day of thoughts get put on the Summer Jam screen.

[Ali]

Yeah, they'd be. They wouldn't.

[Roy]

They'd be the first successful cancellation.

[Eric]

But what's the stipulations? Am I at risk of losing 100 billion depending on what I think about or. It doesn't matter. They just want to record my thoughts forever.

[Ali]

I think they just want to record your thoughts.

[Roy]

Oh, wait. It's just for Elon's personality in his den that he just gets to watch my throat.

[Eric]

Chip me.

[Roy]

Fine.

[Eric]

Yeah, honey. Billion, chip me.

[Roy]

But if everyone gets to, like, hear those thoughts, I don't know if I'm.

[Ali]

Now, I ain't gonna lie. Even if everybody gets to hear them thoughts, still give me the.

[Roy]

Honey.

[Eric]

I don't give a 100 billion. I will tell you what I'm thinking for 100 billion. You ain't even got to record this. Just call me every day off. And you know what? I was just thinking about my 100 billion. You ain't got to record. I will tell you exactly what I'm thinking.

[Roy]

Certain family members, this is what I've thought of you already. Here's some money to make up for it.

[Eric]

I've been podcasting for 10 years. I ain't got 100 billion. I've been telling niggas what I think for 10 years, and I ain't got 100 billion. Are you kidding me? 100 billion, man, give me that fucking money, man. I don't care what nobody.

[Roy]

A billion dollars. I could pay someone to get that chip out of my fucking head.

[Eric]

Yeah, 100 billion, fam. Yes. Easy question.

[Roy]

Now we can't go to Mars.

[Eric]

I don't give a fuck about Mars. You want to know what I think about Mars for a hundred billion, nigga, give me the hundred billion.

[Ali]

They Give you the astronomical number? Because then it's such an easy yes or no. Like offer me, like offer me a million and see what I say.

[Eric]

Nah.

[Ali]

Like maybe think about it.

[Eric]

I'm not putting no chip in my body for a million dollars. It's not happening.

[Ali]

So how so what would be the lowest number for y'?

[Eric]

All? A hundred billion.

[Ali]

That would not be the lowest number for you.

[Eric]

You would do it for 1 billion. 99 billion.

[Ali]

You would do it for 1 billion.

[Eric]

For 1 billion. For sure.

[Ali]

You would do it for 50 million.

[Eric]

N for sure.

[Ali]

Exactly.

[Eric]

Me, treat me like that little poodle I found a couple months ago. Chip me five for 50 million. Man, you want to know what I'm thinking?

[Ali]

For 50 years, I would do it for 10 million. 10 million. I'd do it for 10 million.

[Eric]

If I had a hundred thousand cash right now to Damaris, I wouldn't do it. I want to chip you.

[Ali]

I've had some binary.

[Eric]

If I say a hundred thousand, a hundred thousand a year tax freeze, I live tax free, cash in your hand.

[Roy]

I could go get a job. Or you can have a job and have an extra 100,000 tax free.

[Eric]

100,000. Cash.

[Ali]

My thoughts, not my. I know how much my thoughts are worth. No.

[Eric]

Oh, my. A hundred G's. Cash.

[Ali]

That's. I feel.

[Eric]

And I just want a year. I just want to know what you're thinking.

[Ali]

Listen, it doesn't matter if Elon has access to my thoughts. Elon the musk. The guy, the African Elon Musk. If he wants my thoughts, I guarantee he's making more. He's making billions and millions off my thoughts if he's studying them. So, no, I would want more.

[Roy]

Yeah, but you can't. Off the technology of being able to read your thoughts. Off the chip is where he's making his 200 billion. Yeah, I'm Stella.

[Ali]

My thoughts and my data.

[Eric]

Yeah, he doing that already on your phone. What you think. What you think the cookies are for?

[Roy]

He just said cookies. I'm going to get a chips ahoy ad the moment I leave here.

[Eric]

Yeah. All right. So 200 bands a year.

[Ali]

Nah.

[Roy]

Tax free on top of. Yeah.

[Eric]

The marriage is talking right now, though. She just talk. The marriage will be. She'll take that 200 grand a year.

[Ali]

300 grands a year, tax free.

[Eric]

So the difference is 100 grand. Yo, yo. The marriages be wanting to argue.

[Roy]

I could make an extra 100 grand a year. Stretch.

[Eric]

What? I'm going, you know, I'm out of here. I'm going to live On a small island. Give me a nice little condo, little house, somebody beach. I'm chilling just to know my thoughts. Yo, come on, man. Y' all crazy as hell. That's an easy call. 100 billion is ridiculous. Everybody would do that.

[Ali]

Yeah, that's.

[Eric]

That's just. You know, know. But, yeah, I would definitely do that, though. 100 billion, easy.

[Roy]

Are we doing it for free now?

[Eric]

There you go. Well, not technically for free, but, yes.

[Roy]

Not a conspiracy. We. We talk and ads pop up. You've ever thought something. Just thought it. Yeah. And an ad has popped up.

[Eric]

Nah, I ain't do that yet. I'm going.

[Roy]

I'm going a few times.

[Eric]

I'm going back to the. To the Nokia. To the Nokia. I'm going back to the Nokia. If that happened. I'm not mad if start putting ads on my phone based off what I'm thinking.

[Roy]

It's coming.

[Eric]

I'm going back to the Nokia. Bro, bro, we not doing this. Yeah, we definitely not doing that. But, yeah, that was a. That was an easy, easy answer for me. Absolutely.

[Roy]

Yeah.

[Eric]

Today, now. You ain't got to stitch me up. After you put this. I walk out with a gauze pad.

[Roy]

Just.

[Eric]

Just had the money in the account. Like, we'll. I'll find somebody stitching me up with 100 million, because I want nobody changing their mind on the way out. No, no, no, no, no. Yeah, just stitch me. Let me get out of here. I'm cool.

[Roy]

I mean, in every Black Mirror episode, it ends up fine, so.

[Eric]

Exactly.

[Roy]

I'm sure it'll be great.

[Eric]

Yeah. Before we leave, though, we do have to send rest in peace and condolences, prayers to the family of the legendary Queen Assata Shakur.

[Roy]

Yes.

[Eric]

She passed away over the weekend. It was the Cuban ministry.

[Roy]

I'm not sure exactly what it was.

[Eric]

In Cuba, but, yeah, whoever reported it, when I first read it, I was like, Sada, she got another trick up her sleeve. They must have been hot on her trail, like, you know what I'm saying? But I think it is official and it has been confirmed that indeed, Queen Assata Shakur has passed on. What a life, man. Yeah, you talking about free freedom, you know, being able to live on her terms. And thank you to Cuba, too. We gotta send a shout out to Cuba, man. Yeah, shout out to Cuba all these years for. You know what I mean? Giving the Queen a. A safe space to rest and live and, you know, just be who she was. Like, we don't think about Cuba enough when it comes to that. Like, so. Salute and thank you to Cuba for, you know, opening up their country to Queen Assata Shakur all these years.

[Roy]

I hope they eventually do a proper movie or series on her life, because if you saw that without any context, you'd be like, wow, this is a really cool fictional series. Yeah, this would never happen in real life, but that. That's how incredible and astounding her story is. So, yeah, rest in peace to Assada Shakur, the entire Shakur family. Condolences. But that. Yeah, it's one of the. The wildest stories ever. Has there been a successful prison break since then? There's been prison break.

[Ali]

Did they ever catch that last from New Orleans?

[Eric]

They caught that right there in Popeyes or some.

[Roy]

He was doing a tick tock dance outside.

[Eric]

Yeah, some dumb. Then they caught him at a Popeyes. I'm dead serious. Something stupid like that. A fast food spot, I think, but I. You know, you read stuff. It could be fake, but.

[Roy]

Yeah, I think the same reason Tyler went to Dairy Queen after he. Never mind. Yeah, because that happened.

[Eric]

Sometimes you just need a blizzard after.

[Ali]

Nah. Derek after assassination Groves is still at large.

[Eric]

For real?

[Ali]

Yeah. They ain't call him. And when they po. When they put all their pictures up next to each other, I said, they ain't gonna catch that.

[Eric]

He looked like he ain't gonna be caught.

[Ali]

He look like he ain't gonna be caught? No, he's still at large.

[Eric]

Word. Derek still out there.

[Roy]

Okay, wait. What Derek do Before I give Derek credit? Like, should Derek be in jail?

[Ali]

Well, I mean, they all should be in jail, but what?

[Roy]

See more racism from. He's a killer. Who. Like.

[Eric]

Yeah, yeah. Who did he kill?

[Roy]

Yeah, because that's different.

[Eric]

If it was just some street and they was out there, like, beefing, you.

[Roy]

Know, game is the game.

[Eric]

But if he ran down on the mother of three coming home from work.

[Roy]

With Glocks, Locke locks. I'll help you find him.

[Eric]

Yeah. Matter of fact, put it peach. He's the COVID art. If.

[Roy]

If he did it.

[Eric]

He was convicted last year for gunning down two men with an assault rifle at a block party.

[Roy]

Okay, I need more.

[Eric]

That's not enough information. Were the two men ops?

[Roy]

Rest in peace to everyone that.

[Ali]

Who were they? Ops, yo.

[Eric]

Nah, cuz, I'm saying we just got to be real. If it's gang shit going. Yeah. That's what happens.

[Roy]

We're not condoning it, but.

[Eric]

Yeah, but now if this was an innocent, two guys that had nothing to do with nothing, they just got killed, like.

[Roy]

Yeah, lock him up.

[Eric]

Then lock him up. But if this was just, you know, part of. Part of the game, then.

[Roy]

But also with that said, the. The Derrick Grove story is not the Assada Shakur.

[Ali]

Yeah.

[Eric]

Not to be confused.

[Roy]

The successful Frison break is way different.

[Eric]

Yeah. Yeah. We talking about. We talking about got to Cuba. Like, yeah, man.

[Roy]

Obama. Obama went and tried to. To, you know, put her back on the top 10 FBI most wanted. We got to put money in the final. Him and his wife went to Cuba. I'm like, go find a bear. Like, you're in Cuba. Go find her.

[Ali]

But they. It doesn't matter. They can't extradite her. It doesn't matter if they find her. What does that mean?

[Roy]

Yeah, no, Cuba really held that down.

[Eric]

No, they did 100. 100.

[Ali]

Do they still have that? Same, like, can we. Like, if we commit a crime, can we run to Cuba and we'll be good?

[Roy]

I. I don't know. I'm not sure of where the laws are at with everything, because at the time when she escaped to Cuba, we were not on great terms with Cuba. We're on better terms with Cuba now.

[Eric]

Yeah.

[Roy]

So I'm not sure whatsoever. I mean, you could imagine being the guard tower at Guantanamo Bay and just. Just seeing us just going for her morning jog on the beach.

[Eric]

There's nothing y' all could do.

[Roy]

Can't do.

[Eric]

It.

[Ali]

Says it'll extradite non Cuban fugitives under specific circumstances, but it refuses to extradite its own or people Cuba considers political figures. So if they consider you a political figure, they will not allow extradition.

[Eric]

But don't get it twisted.

[Roy]

Well, she was a political figure.

[Eric]

Yeah. And not only that, people in Cuba didn't like Cuba. Officials didn't know where she was at either, though.

[Roy]

Like, how big is the island?

[Eric]

Yep. They still didn't know what she was after that, you know, I don't even think people knew what she looked like anymore. Yeah, they would always give updates and pictures of what she should look like now, what she could look like, but they. They never really knew. But anyway, prayers rest in peace, condolences to Queen Asada Shakur and salute to Cuba as well.

[Roy]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Eric]

All right, well, make sure y' all go see that movie if y' all can, man. Yeah, really great, great movie. I think y' all gonna.

[Roy]

It's about him, right?

[Eric]

Shout out to mall. We not doing that. Shout out to Marlon. We love Marlon Wayne's. You know how I feel about the Wayans family. But, yeah, that wasn't the movie to go see in the theaters though. We could have streamed that. But what was the name of it again? One battle after another, One battle after another. One battle, right. One battle after another. I keep forgetting the name. One battle after another, One battle after another. One battle after another.

[Ali]

You repeating yourself too.

[Eric]

I'm gonna keep it. But yes, go see that when you can. If you can. Great movie, great film. Shout out to everybody involved in that film that I. I really, really enjoyed that movie. I haven't enjoyed a movie in the theaters like that in a very long time. That movie was really, really good. We'll talk to y' all soon. Be safe, be blessed. Rest in peace, Queen Asada Shakur no worrying now.

[Roy]

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[Ali]

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