Episode 412 | Men Can’t Use Cameras

Summary

New Rory & Mal — Episode 412 | Men Can’t Use Cameras

Release Date: October 7, 2025
Hosts: Rory, Mal, Stephanie (Damaris appearing), Ty
Podcast Description: New stories, laughs, and random hot takes nobody asked for…

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Episode Overview

This episode swerves through the hosts’ personal stories, music and politics hot takes, relationship debates, and a hilarious dissection of unwritten “man rules” around cameras and concerts. The crew recaps an eventful office party, debates celebrity scandals and comebacks, weighs in on toxic relationships versus quiet exits, and ends with a freewheeling discussion of manhood, pepper spray, and what men “aren’t allowed” to do. Expect quotables, playful arguments, and classic, cutting humor.

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Key Topics & Discussion Points

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1. Weekend Catch-Up & Office Party Tales

[02:14 – 13:30]

• Hosts rib each other about aging, gray hair, and family dynamics.
• Rory recounts a Yankee game group chat gone off the rails, from baseball talk to wild political rants:
  • “This group chat has gone so off the rails after that Yankee game… This is the Black Liberation army for old white guys from North Jersey.” (Dan, 04:22)
• Nostalgia about Irish Democrats, JFK, and shifting cultural icons.
• Recap of the office party and Patreon livestream:
  • Shoutouts to Damaris and Peach.
  • DJ Edden’s set gets props, condolences on the loss of his dog.
  • Wild party moments: Matt (“from the Zoom Zoom Room”) sitting quietly next to Tank Top Bay, awkward attempts to spark a conversation, and playful speculation about icebreaking at parties.
• Eventful “afters” — beer pong (mistakenly called “ping pong"), late-night music, homegirls arriving, and keeping the party going well past stream-off.

Notable Quote:
“Shout out to Damaris’s thighs and cheeks. They carried the show.” – Dan, [08:32]

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2. Sports Weekend & Billionaire Banter

[14:19 – 16:53]

• Recap of games: Yankees lost, Giants “got their ass whipped,” but Knicks win in Abu Dhabi (“at least the Knicks won”).
• Tangent on billionaire money: “Elon Musk can now has enough money to buy the entire NBA, the entire MLB, and the entire NFL.” – Ty, [16:04]
  • Rory: “And Flint still does not have drinking water.” ([16:16])
• Hypothetical jokes about what would happen if “the Saudis” or Elon Musk ran US sports.

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3. Diddy (Puff) Sentencing & Comeback Debate

[16:53 – 42:36]

• Breakdown of Diddy’s sentencing:

  • 50 months (about 4 years), expected to serve less with time served and halfway house consideration.

• Group reaction: Team discusses legal comparisons, sentencing disparities, and whether Diddy’s image rebrand with the “love” persona was preemptive.

• Speculation on what Diddy’s post-prison life will look like:

  • Will he go quiet, go full “redemption tour,” or jump back into public life?
  • “Some people say Puff is a narcissist and needs that spotlight; he doesn’t want to live in quiet.” (Stephanie, [25:51])

  Key Exchange:

  • Ty: “I don’t think he’ll go full Christian… but he’ll have to change. You don’t want to have to be sitting in no fucking small ass cell, you know, eating his food…” ([20:01])
  • Rory: “If he stays in the spotlight, more and more cases are going to come out. ... If you just stay out the light, Puff could probably live a pretty good life with his family.” ([25:06])

• Debate over whether the public and industry will support Diddy musically/business-wise after his sentence:

  • “The stuff that made Puff… that came from us wearing his clothes and drinking his products… I don’t know if anyone’s going to do that.” – Dan, [22:39]
  • Stephanie: “Especially women… might lose support from their own fans.” ([22:56])
  • Ty: “I keep telling you, people really don’t care. If it doesn’t directly affect them, I don’t think people care as much as y’all think they do.” ([23:01])

• Parallels drawn with other controversial artists (R. Kelly, Tory Lanez) and whether the industry and fans “care.”

Memorable Moment:
Jokes about the post-prison interview circuit for Puff and Tory Lanez—Gail King, Shannon Sharpe, Aiden Ross, and wild scenarios (Hot Ones, Drink Champs, etc.)

“Drink Champs, Nori and Puff, definitely. Especially if Puff, with his parole, is forced to stay in one place—I’m sure he’s gonna pick his Miami house.” (Dan, [41:18])

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4. The “What Men Can’t Do” / Cameras at Concerts Segment

[59:11 – 70:37]

• Hilarious (and intentionally hyperbolic) debate about men carrying pepper spray:
  • “A man having pepper spray is a little crazy… Like, you go over, a man comes over your house… and he got pepper spray, that’s crazy.” – Ty, [59:16]
  • Stephanie tries (and fails) to defend why a man might have pepper spray: “If you guys are on parole and shouldn’t be getting into it, carry pepper spray so you can protect yourself and not go back to jail.” ([60:32])
• Extended riff on “men can’t be happy,” “men can’t reminisce,” and the mounting list of “man rules.”

Cameras at shows:

• The viral debate: Is it “icky” for men to record themselves at concerts, especially at Chris Brown or Usher shows?
  • “Nasty for a man to record Chris Brown’s concert. That is disgusting. I don’t care what none of y’all say. You supposed to just live in the moment.” – Ty, [64:45]
  • Rory pushes back: “Now, men can't reminisce?” ([69:35])
  • Stephanie provides context: “Just don't turn around with cheese and get in the audience; that's gonna piss me off.” ([65:36])
  • The hosts admit to recording Kobe’s last Detroit game, Jade’s SummerSlam walkout, and the rare concert moment but exaggerate the line between “allowed” and “not allowed” man behaviors for comedic effect.

Notable Quote:
“Men can’t use cameras. Add that to the list of things that men can’t do.” – Ty, [61:49]

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5. Battle Rap & The Ethics of Battling Women

[82:42 – 93:37]

• Discussion about male battle rappers refusing to battle women (Loaded Lux’s “divine feminine” argument), the creative risks, and whether it’s even “fair” or ethical.
  • Rory: “I just feel like I’d be interested in the woman’s point of view… women can insult us worse than any man can.” ([87:15])
  • Ty: “You still at a disadvantage because again, the woman, she could say what she want to say and disrespect me, and then I gotta try to disrespect her. … Now what if I dug up some information and found out she had an abortion two years ago and I start rhyming from the perspective of the aborted baby?” ([87:41])
  • Roundtable examines how deeply battle rappers can (or should) cut, and where personal boundaries might (or might not) exist.

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6. Listener Voicemail: Do Men Prefer Crazy?

[102:28 – 114:01]

• Caller asks if men are more interested in women who “go crazy” when hurt vs. those who just quietly leave.
  • Ty: “Acting crazy for me has never been a turn-on.” ([109:39])
  • Dan: “You can fall into a bad hole of being addicted to chaos that you think is love.” ([105:28])
  • Stephanie: “Continue doing what you’re doing. The reason why men like that crazy is because it’s an ego boost. ... Just keep leaving quietly, please.” ([114:01])
• They agree that emotional intelligence and lack of drama is more attractive with experience, but laugh about past mistakes, closure, and the reality of ego in toxic cycles.

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Notable Quotes & Moments (with Timestamps)

• “This is the best you’re gonna look. These are your wonder years.” – Ty, [02:27]
• “It was Jesus, Jeter, and JFK on my mother’s mantle.” – Dan, [05:51]
• “That's the funniest thing by far that's happening in my life right now… anytime I get a notification, I cannot wait to see what it said.” – Dan, [07:30]
• “If you're an addict… you can't put yourself right in the middle of the temptation and be like, ‘let me see if I'm completely over this life.’ No—you completely remove yourself from that.” – Ty, [28:46]
• “Men can't reminisce. Only Pete Rock and CL Smooth can reminisce. All you other niggas just remember.” – Ty, [69:47]
• “It just gives me the ick… I be looking for the women, like, y’all don’t see these niggas in here?” – Ty, [70:32]
• “Men can’t own pepper spray… that’s crazy.” – Ty, [61:49]
• “Closures only come within yourself… nobody else can give you closure.” – Dan, [112:21]
• “They don’t read the paragraphs, ladies. Stop sending them.” – Stephanie, [115:53]

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Tone & Style

• Consistently irreverent, sarcastic, and self-aware banter.
• Hosts playfully push and prod each other on masculinity, dating, and culture.
• Social commentary mixed with personal storytelling and running jokes.

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Episode Timestamps

| Segment | Timestamp | |--------------------------------------------|----------------| | Cold Open / Banter | 02:14 – 03:39 | | Party Recaps & Group Chat Rants | 03:39 – 14:19 | | Sports & Billionaire Jokes | 14:19 – 16:53 | | Diddy Sentencing & Cancel Culture | 16:53 – 42:36 | | Men & Pepper Spray / Concert Cameras | 59:11 – 70:37 | | Battle Rap: Women vs Men Ethics | 82:42 – 93:37 | | Listener Voicemail: Crazy Exes | 102:28 – 114:01|

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Summary: Why Listen?

You’ll get all the classic New Rory & Mal energy: quick-flowing jokes, hot-take debates on culture, introspective moments about love and loss, and the kind of inside jokes and friendly antagonism that only the real ones can provide.

If you want to know why men “can’t use cameras,” whether Diddy’s comeback is possible, or the unwritten (and ever-evolving) rules of being a man in 2025, this episode is a must-listen.

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Skip To:

• [04:22] — Insane group chat stories
• [16:53] — Diddy verdict reaction
• [59:11] — The “pepper spray” gender rant
• [64:45] — Can men record concerts?
• [82:42] — Should men do battle rap vs. women?
• [102:28] — Relationship voicemail: do men prefer “crazy”?
• [109:39] — Why acting wild is not attractive

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Signature Moment:
Ty: “Add that to the list of things that men can’t do—men can’t own pepper spray!” ([61:49])

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For laughs, social commentary, and refreshingly unfiltered group-therapy, this episode covers it all.

Transcript

[Stephanie]

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[Dan]

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[Ty]

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[Dan]

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[Ty]

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[Dan]

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[Ty]

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[Dan]

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[Ty]

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[Dan]

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[Ty]

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[Stephanie]

Hey, guys, it's Stephanie, Beatriz and Melissa Fumero. And this is more better. We are jumping right in and ready to hear from you. Your thoughts, your questions, your feelings about socks with sandals. And we're ready to share some possibly questionable advice. And hot takes. God, that sucks so hard though. I'm so sorry. Can you out petty them? Can you match their pettiness for funsies? Yeah, all the things. Because aren't we all trying to get a little more better? Listen to more better on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Ty]

The volume.

[Stephanie]

No worrying now.

[Dan]

And we're back. Top of the week. How's everyone feeling?

[Ty]

How are you feeling, man?

[Dan]

I feel great.

[Ty]

You look great.

[Dan]

Do I really?

[Ty]

Yeah.

[Dan]

Oh, I feel like I look tired.

[Ty]

I feel like this is the best you're gonna Look.

[Dan]

Oh, for sure.

[Ty]

These are your wonder years.

[Dan]

No, this is.

[Ty]

This is.

[Dan]

This is as good as it gets, for sure.

[Ty]

Yo, these are your ones.

[Dan]

You're not wrong. There you go.

[Ty]

Look back on these years, these photos of videos, and be like, I was a stud.

[Dan]

For sure.

[Ty]

Yeah.

[Dan]

I don't know. I mean, I think. I guess I'd have to ask Damaris because she speaks for all women. The grays are popping out, and women seem to like them. I think if I. If I go full gray, I might, like, have a whole nother.

[Ty]

How does that shot for gingers, y' all go? Are y'. All. Does your, like, body allow you to.

[Dan]

Go gray, or is it just like, the grays popping?

[Ty]

Oh, I thought that was, like, rust. It's, like, a little. You know me. It's like. It's still.

[Dan]

You think my beard is resting? Not.

[Ty]

I mean, it's like, you know, it's still ginger, but it's like. It's just different shades of gin. Like, you know, movie shades of gray. Yeah, it's like shades of gingerbread.

[Dan]

Well, I mean, my body overall is confused with hair.

[Ty]

Yeah.

[Dan]

Black eyebrows, red hair.

[Ty]

Yeah.

[Dan]

It's weird.

[Ty]

It's all good, man.

[Dan]

But, you know, other than that. It was a rough, rough weekend for the Yanks, but I'm. I'm still. I'm here. I'm still standing with my guys. But it was. It was a. It was a rough one.

[Ty]

I don't even want to talk. I don't even want to talk about it.

[Dan]

It was a rough one, to say the least.

[Ty]

Oh, man.

[Dan]

But I don't know. I have faith. I. I think.

[Ty]

Listen, man, it's not over yet. It's not over. We just got to get the next one. Just get the next one. As we tell ourselves every year. Just get the next one, man. It's all good.

[Dan]

Speaking of which, you'll probably appreciate this. You remember when I went on that. The bus trip you have.

[Ty]

All my family would probably appreciate this. And I appreciate it, by the way.

[Dan]

No, I actually think you. I think you will, actually.

[Ty]

Okay.

[Dan]

Remember I went on that bus trip where we spread ashes at Yankee Stadium and everything?

[Ty]

You mean on Jerome Avenue?

[Dan]

Yes, yes, of course. Yeah. So a group chat was started, like, leading up to that, so people could send their money this and that. This group chat has gone so off the rails after that Yankee game.

[Ty]

It's still happening. It's still going. Well. It's the playoffs, so, yeah, naturally, it has to keep going.

[Dan]

You would think that we'd be talking about the Yankees? No, this is the Black Liberation army for old white guys from North Jersey. Okay, no context.

[Ty]

Add me, add me. That's my type of chat right there.

[Dan]

I'll even show you exactly where it went off the rails. It was photos from the bus trip was the last text. Then no Context, no conversation. Team 47 is the man. Exclamation point, explanation point.

[Ty]

Team 47. Who's that?

[Dan]

Donald Trump. Okay, then it moves on to, I never met Charlie Kirk, but it feels like I lost a friend. This dude was so full of life and knowledge. He was the best thing that ever came along. For everyone in their 20s and 30s. This guy is just phenomenal. How does anyone think they could ever get away with this?

[Ty]

Wow. That's live Yankee group chat.

[Dan]

I was about to say. It's going so, so far left. No, it's. Dude, I think. I really think my dad should be, like, behind museum glass. He. I think he's the only Irish Democrat left.

[Ty]

Your dad lives like he's behind museum glass. That's how he feels every day in his life. Like he's behind museum glass.

[Dan]

Yo. The change is just insane. Like, everybody I grew up around was Irish Democrats. Like, after jfk, like, it was a law.

[Ty]

Yeah.

[Dan]

Like I've told you, which I've not exaggerated. It was Jesus, Jeter and JFK on my mother's.

[Ty]

Yeah. On the mantle.

[Dan]

At one point, I forgot I was. Must have been in, like, fifth or sixth grade. I wrote, like, a hero essay, like, about, like, Michael Jordan. No, I think it was, like, Terrell Davis or some shit. Wait, my dad was so pissed.

[Ty]

You wrote a hero essay about Terrell Davis?

[Dan]

It was one of those, like, when you're in elementary school that you gotta fucking write, like, about your hero or whatever. So my dad found out that I did it on Terrell Davis. And the next morning, in our bathroom was a picture of jfk, and he wrote a sticky note that said hero. So I'm telling you. And my dad is still an Irish Democrat, like. And even, you know, my grandfather even, like, volunteered Jimmy Hoff, like, the whole thing.

[Ty]

Yeah.

[Dan]

So to see this group chat go from just a. A good old Yankee.

[Ty]

Yeah.

[Dan]

Yo, let's talk about. Let's talk about Judge.

[Ty]

Yeah. No, that's how it happens, man. While we're over here, let's just talk about some other.

[Dan]

I thought when they said all rise, they were talking about Judge. I didn't know it was Colin Kaepernick.

[Ty]

Yeah, exactly. That's exactly what he talk about. Add me in that Group chat, man. That's my type of chat.

[Dan]

It's insane.

[Ty]

I need to be in some chats.

[Dan]

Like, yo, but listen, if. If they want to idolize Charlie Kirk, that's their prerogative.

[Ty]

That's cool.

[Dan]

Whatever. What bothered me was just a few years ago, everyone in my family referred to podcasting as being unemployed.

[Ty]

Okay?

[Dan]

Now a podcaster is their hero.

[Ty]

Yeah. That's how life works.

[Dan]

They're a hero.

[Ty]

Yeah. That's how it happens. That's exactly how it happens.

[Dan]

I mean, part of me was like, damn, I should probably just get out of this group chat.

[Ty]

But your dad needs it.

[Dan]

But it's the funniest thing by far that is happening in my life right now is anytime I get a notification, I cannot wait to see what it said.

[Ty]

But that's the type of. Those are the type of gu. That need a podcast. Like, those type of men. 100%. 100. They don't give a. Like, that's who needs the podcast.

[Dan]

People that don't call it, like Exit 11 or something. Just some turnpike.

[Ty]

They don't give a. Just record it, put it out. They don't care what it's doing. They don't care how many views it got. Somebody needs to hear this type of. Absolutely. Why not?

[Dan]

It's. It is a great group chat, to say the least.

[Ty]

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[Dan]

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[Dan]

Merch is on sale right now. Newroarimol.com also for five dollars a month. The whole month. Just five bucks. You can listen to every episode ad free, as well as some additional content, some fun stuff. We actually, on Patreon on Friday had an amazing live stream. I had a great time.

[Ty]

Yes. Shout out to everybody that came through for the live stream.

[Dan]

Shout out to Damaris's thighs and cheeks.

[Ty]

Yes.

[Dan]

They carried the show.

[Stephanie]

Shout out to Peach for being here at 11am and busting his ass and putting all that.

[Ty]

I love you, man. It's nothing I wouldn't do for you, man.

[Dan]

There's plenty of things I'm sure you wouldn't do for peace.

[Ty]

There's nothing I wouldn't do for you, Peach.

[Dan]

But yeah, on Patreon, we did a little DJ segment with Edden.

[Ty]

We got it.

[Dan]

And condolences. His dog passed away and yeah, I consider pets to be family members, so condolences to Eden.

[Ty]

Yes, I know. Trust me, that's. I cried like a baby last year when I lost mine.

[Dan]

Yeah, no, it's. It's tough. So condolences to. To Edden's dog and. And thank you for putting on a great set.

[Ty]

Like, listen, I got a different. Different level of respect for. For Eden now. I've always respected Adam, but actually seeing him dj, like, in his DJ element, because you know how you don't know your free. But, yo, I dj, like, all right, man, what you be doing in them spots uptown? Just set a playlist and let it run. Like. But no, Eddie was like, mixing, blending.

[Dan]

Yeah. No, I've seen Ed and DJ before, but it was uptown at the Bronx Brewery, and 99.9 of the demographic was Spanish.

[Ty]

Yeah.

[Dan]

So it was a lot of Gasolina being played.

[Ty]

Yeah.

[Dan]

Great blends or whatever. Just not. I don't need four hours of that. So I wasn't. I wasn't sure what Eden outside of that environment was. But he. Oh, he smoked it.

[Ty]

Listen, man, he put on Al Green. At one point, I looked at Ed and I was like, all right, man. Like, come on, bro.

[Dan]

Not the reggaeton remix to Al Green, because you know it exists.

[Ty]

Yeah, not. Not the single from that Al Green album. Like, he dropped a album cut.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Ty]

But thank you for everybody that came to the office party. We appreciate it. And everybody that was on the live stream, in the chat, shout out to Matt from the Zoom Zoom Room. He pulled up, he had a good time. Matt didn't leave until I left. Like, I left at 3am after I, like, swept and everything out there and put the garbage out. Matt left like 30 minutes before me. I didn't even know Matt was still here. He came up, he was like, y' all just want to thank you. I was like, no, you still here.

[Stephanie]

We gotta have a conversation about, like, we gotta have better team meetings. Because when Matt was in the party, I was just like, oh, hey, your name Matt. Okay, nice to meet you. It took me until the Zoom. I mean, the Stream was at 8. I didn't find out Matt was from the Zoom zoom room until 9:30.

[Dan]

I thought it was Trey at first when I walked in.

[Stephanie]

Yo, I thought it was Trey too. But then he said his name was Matt. I'm like, okay, Matt.

[Ty]

I think all black people look alike.

[Dan]

Yeah. You know my group chat.

[Ty]

Yeah, that was Matt from the Zoom Zoom Room, man. But shout out to Matt for pulling up, having a good time.

[Dan]

We had a nice pep talk with him as well on the live stream because he was. He was itching to text her. But, nah, man.

[Stephanie]

So I, I.

[Ty]

You had a good time.

[Stephanie]

I don't know what happened with him. In Tank Top Bay, one of the people that was on the stream, because we couldn't. The people in the party couldn't hear you guys when you were talking in Mike, so we have no idea what happened over there. Well, I know we don't.

[Dan]

Well.

[Ty]

Oh, and when Tay Top Bay sat on the couch.

[Stephanie]

Yes.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Ty]

Oh, she knows. She was just talking and saying how, you know, she was just having a good time, chilling and.

[Stephanie]

But with Matt, because you guys were saying. You said something like. Y' all see you sitting right next to her? I have no idea.

[Dan]

Yeah, we were. We were trying.

[Ty]

They were sitting next to each other, but, like, they weren't having no conversation. It looks awkward when you sitting next to somebody and y' all not saying nothing to each other. It's like, bro, y' all could. It's okay. It's a party. I could speak to each other, so.

[Dan]

And when you're tall and quiet, it's also weird.

[Ty]

Yeah, yeah.

[Dan]

Like, just being tall and you get.

[Ty]

A good job of breaking the ice. She poured a shot in Matt's mouth.

[Dan]

Allegedly.

[Ty]

No, it's on stream.

[Dan]

No, I think we changed the angle back to Eden's.

[Ty]

Oh, you switched. He went back to editing on that one. All right, my bad. I didn't mean to put that out there, but. No, shout out to everybody. That came through, man. It was a good time.

[Dan]

We were just encouraging Matt to get back out there.

[Ty]

Yeah.

[Dan]

You know, he seemed a little down still from the situation, and, yeah, we were just trying to get him to have a conversation with. With a lovely young lady.

[Ty]

Yeah.

[Dan]

And, you know, she was honest as far as, you know, she wasn't available at that time. But I didn't think.

[Ty]

That's a new day today.

[Dan]

I think Matcha hit her with what? You're not allowed to have friends.

[Ty]

Yeah, that always.

[Dan]

That always works.

[Ty]

Always, always work.

[Dan]

Every time you say that, you become friends with her.

[Ty]

Yeah, but it was a good time, man. Shout out to everybody that came through. We got to do those more often. Yeah. Have a little, you know, a little shindig in the. In the office.

[Dan]

What? I mean, I left. What. What happened with the. The afters?

[Ty]

Well, no, once.

[Dan]

Once Stream went off, it looked like it was a little. It was getting a little crazy in here.

[Stephanie]

I, too, left.

[Ty]

No, Eden. Eden. Ed. I thought he was gonna pack. Edna started partying. His homeboy made about 17 more hookahs, you know what I'm saying? Like, we kept the party going. Peej was here, like, I was here, my cousin was here. Had some of my homegirls pull up and it looked like everybody was just chilling, having a conversation. I was like, all right, as long as that ain't gonna keep the music going. Fuck it, we here.

[Dan]

Yeah. No. Once I saw the homegirls come out, I didn't wanna fuck with the vibe. I thought you and Peach was gonna run the two, man. So I got out.

[Ty]

Nah, everybody was chilling. Everybody was having a good time, man. PJ was playing ping pong for about an hour wait.

[Dan]

But, like, by himself? No, no, like with the table up like 4 him.

[Ty]

Eddie Eden will come back to the deep to the rig and put another playlist on. Let that run and then go back to ping pong, man.

[Dan]

Oh, you mean beer pong. I was like, we have a pong table here.

[Ty]

Beer pong. I'll say ping pong. Beer pong, yes. Beer pong.

[Dan]

Well, no, it was fun. Damaris, you looked like you had a great time.

[Ty]

Yeah.

[Stephanie]

Stream is interesting like that.

[Dan]

But did we. Did we block a certain person's email before the stream?

[Stephanie]

No, they got off. They got off. I love people who don't like looking at. That's gonna piss them off.

[Dan]

What? What minute mark and you ain't doing nothing crazy.

[Stephanie]

They were there for like two minutes. They were like, oh, okay, you look goodbye. They're like. They don't.

[Ty]

Nah, they don't know.

[Stephanie]

Nah. People like, you know, I like people that like their piece that like to sleep at night.

[Dan]

Okay, well.

[Ty]

But it was. It was.

[Dan]

If she's listening, you didn't do anything. Like.

[Ty]

It was two hours. It wasn't that. Yeah, it wasn't. It wasn't that type of party. It was. Everybody was having a good time, just chilling, man. It was good. A good vibe, though. Good energy, man. Shout out to everybody that came out.

[Dan]

Yeah, for sure. Other than that, it was pretty quiet. Quiet weekend. I went outside, I went to Beatrice's birthday party. Happy birthday.

[Ty]

To be. Happy birthday. Pulled up.

[Dan]

Yeah, B was here for the stream as well. It was cool. Little St. Peter's reunion. B still stays in contact with people I've not seen in like 15 years. So that was cool.

[Ty]

I love people like that, like people that stay in contact with people you don't. So when they have something like you see everybody that you don't speak to as much.

[Dan]

Yeah. And it was crazy just to see a bunch of people like now with facial hair.

[Ty]

Yeah.

[Dan]

I was like, I remember you. You didn't. Oh, you got a beard.

[Ty]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.

[Dan]

But, yeah, it was cool. Other than that, I don't. Regular weekend. What'd you end up doing?

[Ty]

I didn't do this weekend. I was chilling. I went to. I went to dinner when we had the party Friday, went to dinner Saturday to the spot that I had been trying to. It's like a vegan spot in the city that I've been looking at for a few months. And I was like, you know what? Let me try this.

[Dan]

Let's open out a vegan spot for that. That makes.

[Ty]

No, because it's like a. It's like a. So it's a. It's a restaurant group that has different vegan restaurants. I've been to like. I think they have like six of them, and I've been to like three.

[Dan]

Okay.

[Ty]

So I'm trying to experience all of the different restaurants. So I experienced another one this weekend. It was pretty. It was pretty good, actually. I got to go back and try some more stuff on them. And the girl was looking at me like, sure, that's enough food. Because I was trying to order a little bit of everything. Dope. Dope spot. Yeah. And that was it. Went there Saturday, Sunday, chilled in the crib, cleaned up a little bit, and that was it, man. Kept it chill. This weekend, watch the Giants get their ass whipped. Yeah, the Giants.

[Dan]

It was a rough weekend for this. Yeah. Yeah.

[Ty]

I don't know, man. Hopefully the Knicks. Did the Knicks win? They was in Abu Dhabi. They did win. Okay, so at least the Knicks won.

[Dan]

The Saudis are paying them, too.

[Ty]

I mean, listen, man. They trying to.

[Dan]

Listen, the Saudis bought Brunson.

[Ty]

Listen, man, I just read something that said Elon Musk can now has enough money to buy the entire NBA, the entire mlb, and the entire NFL.

[Dan]

And Flint still does not have drinking water.

[Ty]

Yes, correct. Correct. So that was. That was. That was a fun tidbit to learn over the weekend. Like, oh, Elon can buy all three major sports leagues in America and still have 20 billion left over. Like, so, you know, whatever.

[Dan]

Listen, man, you let that party run amok with that type of money, it'll be back to white baseball. Dominican or Puerto Rican?

[Ty]

White baseball is nasty.

[Dan]

And I mean, according to them, China and Japan are the same thing. So any Japanese. China. No. No China.

[Ty]

No.

[Dan]

Communist. We can't do that.

[Ty]

Not at all.

[Dan]

It's going to be very interesting once. Once Elon starts. Starts running every major sporting event, but crazy other than that. I mean, the Puff thing happened. Was that on. On Friday or Saturday?

[Ty]

That was Friday. You can't Say, before we came in.

[Dan]

I'll admit, I did leave the stream up, not remembering that you can't have cameras in a New York City court. So I literally just left my laptop open of a live stream of cnn, thinking I was going to see the results, and it was just a shot of 100 Century Street.

[Ty]

Yeah.

[Dan]

For five hours.

[Ty]

Yeah. No, I don't think cameras were allowed in the courtroom.

[Dan]

Yeah, no, New York City doesn't allow that.

[Ty]

Yeah. But either way, Diddy was sentenced to, I believe, 50 months.

[Dan]

Yep.

[Ty]

In prison.

[Dan]

About four years.

[Ty]

About four years. I don't think he'll serve a full four years, but it is. You know, I think that his team kind of felt like he would have the chance to go home Friday and be released. They are gonna file an appeal, I think, immediately. Some people have mixed feelings about it. Feel like 50 months wasn't enough. Some people look at other people that have had worse cases being found guilty of, you know, child sexual assault, who've only gotten, like, 10 months. And, you know, some of them no months. Well, yeah, some of them no months at all. So, you know, people started comparing and things like that in light of the sentencing when it came down. But I think that, you know, if I'm Puff's team, this has to feel like some sort of a victory, in a sense, because they were looking at a maximum of maybe 10 or 11 years. So they gave him 50 months, and he probably won't do the full four years. He'll probably get some. He's gonna get time served, obviously, which.

[Dan]

How long has Puff been in?

[Ty]

A little over a year.

[Dan]

Okay.

[Ty]

I think a little over a year.

[Dan]

All right, so he'll probably do two years.

[Ty]

About two years. Maybe a year and a half in a halfway house or something like that. But, I mean, you know, either way, you know, this. I think that this chapter is coming to a close again. They are gonna file an appeal and try to get this 50 months reduced as well, but I'm not sure.

[Dan]

I mean, but even in the time that you do appeals, it may take as long as the time he's even going to serve at that point, and.

[Ty]

It'Ll all be time served anyway.

[Dan]

So, I mean, Puff is sitting down for two years. I do want to ask y', all what. What does it look like when Puff gets out for him? I mean, he had his statement that he said to the judge that he's completely changed. He was on drugs and, you know, a typical. Typical response to a judge that's about to sentence you.

[Ty]

Yeah.

[Dan]

What. What do we think it looks like when he gets out, is Puff going to be quiet or are we getting the full redemption Christian tour?

[Ty]

I don't think he'll be quiet. I don't know if quiet is the word. I think his energy will be different. I think that he'll have to change his. And if you look at it, he's kind of already started that with the whole love thing, you know what I mean? He kind of started trying to change his demeanor and tone a little bit years ago.

[Dan]

And I think we can speculate on some of the reason of that. All right, Maybe some shit's coming down the pipeline. I gotta do a little image, clean.

[Ty]

Up my act a little bit. So I think that, you know, we'll see a different. A different Diddy. But I don't know if he'll go full Christian. I don't know if he'll go gospel. And, you know, I don't know if he'll start preaching the word. I don't think he'll go that far. But I do think that he will. I mean, he'll be forced to make some lifestyle changes. Somebody like Puff doesn't want to do a day in jail. He's already been in there a little over a year and now has more time to go. So, you know, this may be what Puff needed to kind of like, you know, shake him up and show him that, hey, man, listen, even when you got money and power, like, you'll have to go sit down and, you know, sit in these environments that, you know, somebody like you doesn't want to be in. You're used to a life of luxury. You don't want to have to be sitting in no fucking small ass cell, you know, eating his food and things like. Even though I'm pretty sure he's living good in there, I'm pretty sure he's getting the food that he wants and things like that, but you still don't want to be in there. So I think that he'll change his lifestyle a little bit, but I think he'll still be the same Puff in terms of businessman and trying to, you know, acquire his businesses back and things like that, or start new businesses and new ventures and things like that. I think that's just a part of who he. Who he'll always be. But in his personal life, I think he'll. We'll see a different or feel a different tone from him.

[Dan]

You think he'll buy Revolt back from Dame?

[Ty]

Why? This is.

[Dan]

Why did he not start Revolt?

[Ty]

No, Dame didn't Start.

[Dan]

No, I said Puff.

[Ty]

No, I mean, I don't think he'll go that route. I think it'll be new everything. It'll be new, new ventures. He'll still be. He'll still be Diddy and still be, you know, the businessman and the entrepreneur that we know him to be. But I think he. I think he wants to kind of start things, you know, from scratch and build. Build. Build platforms and build brands again, which is something that obviously he's one of the greatest at doing. I think that he'll just. It'll be different. Everything will be different for him.

[Dan]

Yeah. But I. I guess. And we don't have to stay on this for too long, but a lot of what Puff has done in the past to get to the mogul that he is required People, as far as drinking your liquor, wearing your clothes, listening to your music, I mean, we've seen that on the music side, people generally don't really give a fuck what any artist does. They'll probably still listen to their music. I'm sure R. Kelly is streaming through the roof currently. But. But as far as the stuff that made Puff the businessman and the money that we know him to have, that came from us wearing his clothes and drinking his products. Pause. Like, I just don't know if anyone's going to do that. Like, if you. If you're at the club and buying bottles, are you buying Puff's new alcohol? Like, you. You look kind of fucking nuts.

[Stephanie]

Yeah.

[Dan]

Are you wearing a Puff T shirt?

[Ty]

I think so. I think we've seen people support him outside the courtroom. We've seen people down and down this industry with bottles of baby oil and things like that still supporting him and things like that. So he still has people that support him no matter what.

[Stephanie]

The influencer. The people who influence, though, are they doing that?

[Ty]

Yeah, I think so. Man. I keep telling you, people. People really don't care. Like, if it doesn't directly affect them. I don't think people care as much as y' all think they do.

[Dan]

But even if they don't care, if you're going, let's just use liquor as the example. Like, with the amount of options you have for liquor, even if you don't care what Diddy did, I don't know if you're just gonna rush to go support it just because you don't care. Out of all the options of vodka and tequila that you can get, I think you'd probably just be like, you know what? I'll get Tito's.

[Ty]

Yeah.

[Dan]

Even if you don't care what he did. I think it's gonna be tougher for Puff than. Than even he probably thinks. Just based off the 20 years of business that he's been so successful in, it just requires everyone to support and buy your products. And I don't know if that's a thing now.

[Ty]

Do you think that he. He should just kind of, like, go off the grid and just be a family man?

[Dan]

I think he should just. Just disappear completely disappear.

[Ty]

I'm not mad at that. Like, if I'm him, I would probably go that route. Like me, if I was in that position, I would definitely go that route. Like, you know what? Let me just completely. Just live a completely different life. I don't want to be in front of the cameras. I don't want to be, you know, on the blogs. Just go somewhere where I can just be. Live out my years. Old man on the beach eating seafood and fruit and like that, like. And just chill. Like. I wouldn't. I wouldn't want to be. Definitely wouldn't be on the party in a nightclub anymore. You would never see me in a nightclub again.

[Dan]

Absolutely insane. If he did that.

[Ty]

Never again.

[Dan]

I should. He should. He should look at Suge as an example. Suge could have been as. As rich as Jimmy Iovine right now if he just would have disappeared. Staying in the mix is. Is what got him jammed up with everything. Yeah, I think it's a tragedy would happen on the set of Straight out of Compton. And I think they're, you know, rest in peace to the gentleman. But should. Should get some grace on. He didn't intentionally try to kill someone. But when you've been in the public eye pissing people off this long, no one's going to have grace for you, especially in a courtroom. They couldn't wait to lock you up.

[Ty]

Right.

[Dan]

You think if Puff crosses the street wrong, it's going to be a thing. And if he stays in. In the spotlight, more and more cases are going to come out. I'm not saying true or not. I just know for a fact people are going. It'll be a waterfall of more and more victims. The more somebody sees somebody is when shit gets brought up. Like, matter of fact, most of the time when people get canceled, it's usually when they're like, announcing something positive that they're doing, and then everyone figures out everything bad that they've done in their past. If you just stay out of the light, Puff could probably live a pretty good life with his family.

[Ty]

Oh, no, absolutely.

[Dan]

It's just Gonna get worse if he gets back on his diddy bop and is. Is outside.

[Stephanie]

Sorry.

[Ty]

No, you're good.

[Stephanie]

There's some people who will say that Puff is a narcissist and he needs that spotlight. Like, he doesn't want to live and quiet.

[Dan]

But, you know, a therapist might suggest. But you know, what characteristics of it.

[Ty]

You got to remember, Puffs start was as a party promoter. Yeah. So he's always been the party guy, just by nature. That's how he got his start. In college, he was throwing parties. You know, I mean, the unfortunate tragic events that happened at. It was city College, right? Yeah, it was a city college. And, you know, somebody lost. How many people lost their lives there?

[Dan]

It was a couple. Yeah.

[Ty]

So. But, you know, going all the way back then to the early 90s, maybe even the late 80s, like, Puff has been, you know, he's been a party guy. So that's.

[Dan]

So he got his artist to pop in the beginning.

[Ty]

Yeah. So he, you know, to kind of completely detach from that. You know, it might be tough for him, but I think this is. He's in this predicament because of his lifestyle. So naturally, he has to make changes to his lifestyle. He has to slow down completely. He has to find different ways to, you know, find creative inspiration and things like that if he still wants to do that. But it can't be, you know, the way he's done it, because look where it got him. His lifestyle got him, you know, essentially 50 months in prison. So he'll make some changes. I think he has to make some changes. Obviously. I don't know if he completely disappears, though. I don't know if I see that. I don't know if I see him completely going, you know, off the grid and just. We only seeing certain pictures of him on the beach every two, three years. Like, I don't know if he did that, though. Yeah.

[Dan]

I mean, to Damaris Point. I wouldn't say that. America has the greatest rehabilitation prison system of where Puff could make a complete 180. Mix that with somebody that has narcissistic tendencies, he's probably just gonna be right back outside.

[Ty]

Nah, I don't think so.

[Stephanie]

Halloween coming up. Oh, no, wait. No, sorry. When he gets out. Halloween, yeah.

[Dan]

You know, he probably throwing parties in the day room like.

[Ty]

Nah, man, he ain't both ain't doing it, bro.

[Stephanie]

When you're used to being the center of attention, your life thrives on being the cent of attention that does not just go away with jail.

[Ty]

Yeah. But when you 50, because he'll be what, 60 by the time he gets out?

[Dan]

Probably. Yeah, he, he.

[Ty]

Listen, man, it.

[Dan]

No, he'll be almost 60.

[Ty]

Yeah. You can't be outside.

[Dan]

Puff was 50, partying like he was 20.

[Ty]

Yeah. And look where he's at.

[Dan]

Fair. I think it wouldn't be prison more or less if he gets completely off drugs through this process. That could maybe be the turn and everything. Because I think a lot of Puff's lifestyle was driven by drugs. And why he was able to party that much was because of those and the want to party. I mean, we read even the paperwork. Like he literally had people on staff that literally just carried around his fucking molly and coke.

[Ty]

Yeah, but that's why he can't put himself in those environments. You know, if you're an addict and, you know, recovering addict, you can't put yourself right in the middle of the temptation and be like, you know, let me see if I'm completely over this life. And no, you completely remove yourself from that. It's still ways to have 60 year old good fun though. Like you can still have fun in your 60s in part, but it's a different type of thing now. It's, you know, few of my, you know, relatives, friends, family, kids come by the house, barbecue. You can still have a good time and, you know, enjoy life. But being in that mix and doing those things, you can't come home and do that.

[Dan]

Well, we were wrong about Gun and Thug as far as who would work with them, features, producers, etc with this. I mean, do you think in the event Puff wants to continue to make music that we get.

[Ty]

Yes.

[Dan]

Love to a Love Deluxe at the same.

[Stephanie]

Yes.

[Dan]

Caliber. Which is kind of crazy when all this happened because I think that's probably aside from no Way out, it can compete with Last Train to Paris. That was one of the greatest bodies of work Puff has ever put up, which is saying something.

[Ty]

Yeah, absolutely. People, producer's still going to work with him, writers are still going to work with him.

[Dan]

But is he getting the same Justin Bieber feature that he's getting from Love the first album?

[Stephanie]

Justin Bieber, maybe because of their past relationships. He's not getting Kehlani. That's not happening. But Justin Bieber. Yeah, probably.

[Dan]

They call Biebs a victim.

[Ty]

Yeah. Bieber is not doing. No. He's not giving Puff. No. No vocals. He's not sending.

[Stephanie]

What I'm saying is when people, and I'm not saying that this is true, but this could happen. When people have known people their entire lives, sometimes it's like, you're going to work with me on this or this information that I have that nobody else's have will suddenly leak. Like, people hang things over people's head.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Stephanie]

And there's also. Y' all call people. Was calling them a victim. There's also a loyalty to certain. Like, I don't know. I'm just saying. I'm not. If it happened, I wouldn't be surprised.

[Ty]

Yeah, he's definitely going to continue to make music. I just don't know what relationships are still there, what artists are still available for him to call and get a verse from.

[Stephanie]

I feel like Diddy has a lot of information on a lot of people, and he gonna start calling them favorites.

[Dan]

Whoops.

[Ty]

You're gonna start threatening with tapes. I don't.

[Stephanie]

I don't know if it's like that, but, yeah, that's possible.

[Ty]

No, I don't.

[Stephanie]

Not putting blackmail on people's names, but that's.

[Dan]

I mean, you see what he did to his last producer.

[Ty]

What do you do to his last producer?

[Dan]

What was that guy's name again?

[Stephanie]

Rodney?

[Dan]

Ricky, Something like that.

[Ty]

Rod. Hot Rod.

[Stephanie]

Yes.

[Dan]

Hot Rod was a rapper in June. It was not. Hot Rod did not produce the Love album, which would be hilarious if Hot Rod did. But, yeah, I mean, if you're going off the last one. The Dream, Jacques Summer Walker, French Montana, Justin bieber, Jasmine Sullivan, Ty$, Kehlani, Coco Jones, Mary J. Blige, Tiana Taylor, Jeremiah Burna Boy, John Legend.

[Ty]

You don't think he'd get a Mary verse?

[Stephanie]

I'm sure he. He'll definitely get a Mary verse.

[Dan]

Bryson Till. Yeah, Mary seems forgiving.

[Ty]

I'm telling you, man, I think people really just don't care the way you think. Probably they're gonna look at it like, yo, he did his time. He said it's over. He came home. Because here's the thing, too, that people don't understand. Damaris. People knew about a lot of this shit when it was going on, when it was happening. You know what I'm saying? Like, so it's like, you know, like.

[Stephanie]

But I don't think it's about people caring. It's about who. It's about who's supporting you. Will people withdraw their support from you because they see you supporting someone else? Like, people turned on Gloria, People turned on Glorilla.

[Ty]

Would you support them after this if you had a relationship with him?

[Stephanie]

I wouldn't have a relationship with Puff and be aware of anything like that.

[Ty]

If you had a relationship?

[Stephanie]

No, I wouldn't. But I'm also not. I am also talking from a broke person's point of view. I don't have millions of dollars on the line. Like, that can change things for different people. But as far as, like, caring about things, yeah, some people don't care, but their fans might care. So, like, I was. Like I was saying people were attacking Glorilla because Glorilla, who had previously been on tour with Meg, Glorilla, posted, reposted something. And sometimes when you repost posts from Instagram, the song that the original poster posted with it will show up on your story. The song happened to be a Tory Lanez story. People went crazy. Like, you never like attaching yourself to certain people on accident, on purpose. You can lose some of your own fans doing that. So.

[Dan]

But Glow could just buy Mega Bag and be fine, right?

[Stephanie]

Anyway, that wouldn't just fix it.

[Ty]

Big bag.

[Stephanie]

Yeah. But people might be afraid to work with Diddy because especially women, because they might lose support from their own.

[Dan]

Which is also interesting that you bring up Tory Lanez because I think when he gets out of jail that he'll be fine. That first album might be Thriller. Level of the amount of people that are going to want to work with him. Yeah, he's going to have every A list feature, every A list producer. Anything that Tory Lanez wants on this project is going to be met, which is so cool. They are going to champion Tory Lanez. They will champion.

[Ty]

You said Thriller. I'm just saying stop listening after you said Thriller.

[Stephanie]

In. In terms of do I think he.

[Dan]

Was going to make an album close to Thriller? No, I'm saying as far as the resources that he will be given, which is the complete opposite of what I think Puff would be given when he gets out of jail. It's just weird how the perception of things goes where I think the whole industry clearly loves and still supports Tory Lanez, whereas Puff. I'm not sure it's going to be like that. And they both are attached to harming women. So it's. It's weird just how the world works in that way.

[Ty]

People care about what they care about. If it means, you know, they have a personal relationship, you know how it is. People turn a blind eye to things. It's like, nah, that's my homeboy. I know he did some wax, but that's my man.

[Dan]

Like, I mean, I. Out the gate. I think he'll have a Drake feature. I. I think he'll get any feature he wants. I think people cannot wait to help Tory Lanez once he gets out of jail.

[Ty]

I see what you're saying.

[Stephanie]

And sick.

[Dan]

I mean, that's. It's not like this is even really like a theory. We've seen the outlying support for the last few years for him. I think every label is going to want to meet with him. I think. Yeah, just. I think it's going to be drastically different than what we've seen with most people that have been convicted of harming women.

[Ty]

But why do you think that?

[Dan]

Because people genuinely, I mean, I told you that I think generals should study Tory Lanez's like PR team. Like, he has Netanyahu level PR at this point. How he spun that and everything that he put into the media, even from jail, made everyone actually believe that he did not shoot a woman after he apologized on a jail call for it.

[Ty]

Yeah, but even, even that, I don't think that people. There's nobody. I don't think people think that he didn't do it. I think people don't care that he did it.

[Dan]

I think it's.

[Ty]

People gotta stop adding. There are people gotta stop, but those people gotta stop. Let's like just say you don't care that he did it. You don't care about Megan. You don't care what happened between them. It was some domestic shit. They were dating, fucking. Whatever they were doing, got drunk. Things happened. I don't care. But we. People gotta stop saying that. That. Who do they say shot Megan now? Because every week I feel like it changes. First it was, she didn't get shot. She stepped on glass.

[Dan]

Yes.

[Ty]

And then every week who shot her changes. So I don't.

[Dan]

I believe, I believe Oswald shot her.

[Ty]

Okay, got it. So this week is Oswald Lee Harvey. All right, got you. Yeah. I don't. I think I just think again back to people just don't care. And I think that, you know, we, we sit back and we try to think that people care and hope that people care about certain things the way, you know, others do, but people really don't give a fuck.

[Dan]

We can definitely move on from this. My last question, who does Tory Lanez first interview? Who does Puff's first interview? Puff going, gail gotta tell both sides.

[Stephanie]

I was just about to say Puff's.

[Dan]

Going to go, oh, yeah, Puff is definitely going to Gail for sure. Gail might go to whatever federal prison Puff ends up in after the sentencing. Gail might get that interview in prison. Tori, on the other hand, I'm gonna go whack 100 on clubhouse.

[Ty]

Nah.

[Dan]

As he gets in the car that picked him up from Rory.

[Stephanie]

Be serious.

[Ty]

I could see Kai getting that first.

[Dan]

I can see Kai in that.

[Stephanie]

Yeah.

[Ty]

Or Aiden Ross, something like that. That's one of the streamers. But Puff. Oh, Candace Owens.

[Dan]

What's the. But what does the Kai. Tory Lanez first interview look like? Like, are we dancing in the basement?

[Stephanie]

Kai's not taking that interview. Aiden will. Kai's not taking that interview.

[Dan]

I would definitely take that interview.

[Stephanie]

Kai is not taking the Tory Lanez interview.

[Dan]

Why not?

[Stephanie]

Because Kai has gotten much smarter with his PR in like, Kai has gotten smarter. Kai's not taking that interview. And Kai is very aware of who his audience is and how the Internet works.

[Dan]

I think his audience supports Tory Lanez to an extent.

[Stephanie]

But Kai has gotten so big. That's like Kai is. Kai has gotten so big that, like, he has regular grown women rooting for him. Like, oh my God, he's so great. Aiden Ross. We'll take it. Yeah, they don't have the same audience. They both have big audiences that are around the same age group, but they do not have this.

[Dan]

Well, I mean, Aiden's audience definitely supports Sterling.

[Stephanie]

Yes.

[Dan]

Matter of fact, they didn't know.

[Stephanie]

They didn't know who he was, though, before he shot Megan.

[Dan]

But now they definitely support Tori so much they think he shot her and was happy about it.

[Stephanie]

Yeah, like, that's it.

[Ty]

That's it.

[Dan]

That's that. But yeah, I. I definitely. Aiden and Tory makes a lot of sense. Yeah.

[Stephanie]

Kai's too, too. But too big.

[Dan]

Now Speedy, do we think Aiden.

[Stephanie]

No.

[Dan]

Speedy's not taking that.

[Ty]

Why not?

[Dan]

Because to what Demer said about Kai, I actually feel is the truth about Speedy. As far as he's going to be very particular on who he sits with. He's very calculated. He has a great image. I just don't think he would do the Tory.

[Ty]

All right, So I just don't think Tory's people breached out the Speedy. You think Speedy turns it down?

[Stephanie]

Yes, I do. And Speedy. Speedy can't afford to turn down Tory lanes. Like, Speedy gets huge interview.

[Dan]

Like, what we talking about? I don't mean to.

[Ty]

Like Cam Newton.

[Dan]

I could see it.

[Stephanie]

I can see it too.

[Ty]

I can see Puff and Shannon Sharp.

[Dan]

Not mad at that at all. That. Yeah, that might. That. Yeah.

[Ty]

Didn't Shannon just have to pay out another 30 million to some girl?

[Dan]

Probably.

[Ty]

He down 50m.

[Dan]

Now puff. Now puff.

[Ty]

We saw the tape. Now, now, now, now, now, now puff. Now puff.

[Dan]

And I don't mean to joke about a woman being shot, but if Tory Lanez did hot ones on his exit.

[Ty]

All right. Man. All right, man. See you just now just think of.

[Dan]

The Sean Evans questions when he got to the last wing. Yo, Tory Lane's hot ones would be the funniest.

[Ty]

Y' all still don't believe we living in the simulation like this show. Like, look at what we talking about. About Shannon Sharp sitting down with Puff as soon as he comes home from J. Yeah, that is crazy.

[Dan]

I. I didn't think Sean Evans would have a public fallout with a porn star, but here we are.

[Ty]

I know, I know. It would break the Internet. Puff and Charleston White. I know. I. Y' all want to see the Internet really break because we say the Internet broke. It ain't never broke. Charleston White and Puff sit down. When Puff come home, nothing is working.

[Dan]

Charleston White is so dedicated, he might purposely get arrested and put in the same person as Puff just to get that interview. He might just be his selling just. Just to like start that relationship.

[Ty]

Oh, man, I'm watching it.

[Dan]

Charleston White and Puff would be absolutely nuts.

[Ty]

I'm watching it.

[Dan]

But jokes aside, I do think Gail's gonna get get that one. I mean, anyone that's trying to change their image, whether they're good at it or bad at it, Gail's right there for you.

[Ty]

You think Puffs are down with Joe and Jada?

[Stephanie]

No, I don't think. I think the volume tells. Tells them to pass.

[Ty]

I know what. Yeah.

[Dan]

Yo, the Maris set that up right?

[Ty]

Now, this moral you on today, this moral high you on. Cut the. These corporate don't give a about no morals.

[Dan]

That's gonna be Puff, Joe and Jada. Sponsored by.

[Ty]

Are you kid. Sponsored by. So, like, what are you talking about? You kidding me? Hell no.

[Dan]

Drink champs. Nori and Puff, definitely. Nah, especially, especially if Puff with his parole is forced to stay in one place. I'm sure he's gonna pick his Miami house. Yeah, you're gonna get Nori right by that pool. Absolutely.

[Ty]

We throwing some sick ass platforms out there, but it'll probably end up being somebody like Gail. Like, yeah, it'll be somebody like that.

[Dan]

I mean, Gail, I feel like if you're a publicist, though, like, we've seen R. Kelly, we've seen Jussie. Like, Gail sometimes is not always the best route to go when you're trying to get your story.

[Stephanie]

Yo's a pretty honest interviewer.

[Dan]

No, it's nothing against. Yeah, no, I know, it's great. It just. It just doesn't usually work out in a lot of people's favors when they're trying to completely change their image. Because Gail has it a great way of saying less to get you to say more shit that's gonna make you sound dumber.

[Stephanie]

She'll just sit there.

[Dan]

She'll just quietly like, so somebody sandwich, right?

[Ty]

She gonna let you walk yourself right into the lie. She won't let you walk yourself right into the bullshit. Like, okay, go ahead, say what you gotta say.

[Stephanie]

I, I, I think Puff will sit down with Gail. But it's going to be a challenge for Puff to talk around Gayle. Like, talking around fucking Shannon Sharpe, like, that takes a lot.

[Ty]

No, it's gonna be, it's gonna be tough for Puff to lie to Gail. That's what it's tough. It's gonna be tough to do. It's gonna be tough to look Gail King her eyes and just feed her some Shannon Sharp. He just happy to have an interview. He trying to get back out that 50 million hole he in right now.

[Dan]

Oh, yeah, he has a resentment towards women already. Yeah, he can't wait to say Puff was railroad. They need, they need Shannon for Puff to help. That would be just two guys sitting a similar story.

[Ty]

Oh, my God.

[Dan]

But shit, yo, when R. Kelly screamed in Gail's face that they're trying to take my fucking life, and her only response was Robert.

[Ty]

Yeah. Cause that's again, like, you can't see.

[Dan]

If Puff can handle her going, Sean, now, Sean.

[Ty]

Cause you know what it is when you, you just that energy, like. Cause in that moment, Gayle King sitting there, you just know when somebody just, bro, you doing way too much for somebody that's supposed to be innocent. Innocent people don't sit here and go crazy like this. Like, you sitting here because, you know, like, you talking to your lawyers and they telling you like, yo, bro, it's not looking good. Like, I don't know how we getting out of this one. Like, that's what that energy is. That's that nervous energy. Like, so Gayle King sitting there like, bro, you sitting here standing up yelling, this nigga gotta keep wiping his sweat off your forehead. Like, yo, just sit down, man. You going to jail. Just sit down. Just chill. Just have an interview. We'll see you in 20 years. That's all right.

[Dan]

Gayle sat through that and then also kept a straight face. When Jussie said so, I punched his ass back. Ma, I know you are thinking about upgrading to the all new iPhone 17 Pro. You constantly are talking about it because it's designed to be the most powerful iPhone ever, which is again, something you always tell us. But are you also thinking about the traffic on your way to the store or transferring all the money bag data that you have in that phone will good news for you, Maul. When you order a new phone online with Boost Mobile, they'll send an expert to your home or work to deliver your brand new iPhone 17 Pro and get you set up on Boost Mobile within minutes.

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[Dan]

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[Ty]

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[Dan]

And we're the Solid Verbal College Football Podcast. College football season is here and you know what that means. Your team is going to break your heart three times, probably before Halloween. Uh huh.

[Ty]

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[Dan]

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[Ty]

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[Dan]

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[Ty]

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[Dan]

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[Ty]

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[Dan]

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[Ty]

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[Ty]

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[Dan]

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[Ty]

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[Dan]

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[Ty]

What's up everybody? This is Snax from the Trap Nerds podcast and we're bringing you the horror every week all October long.

[Dan]

Kicking off this month I'll be bring our greatest fear inducing horror games from Resident Evil to Solid Hill.

[Ty]

Me and Tony bringing back Fireteam on.

[Dan]

Left 4 Dead 2 and we just gonna be going over some of the greats.

[Ty]

Also in October we'll be talking about our favorite horror and Halloween movie and figure out why black people always gotta die first. The Umbral reliquary invites any and all.

[Dan]

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[Ty]

And we will cap it off with Horror Movie Battle Royale. Jason versus Freddy. Michael Myers versus the Alien Thing with the Little Tongue Monster. October, we're doing it Halloween style. Listen to the Traverse Podcast from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast or wherever you get your podcast.

[Stephanie]

Hey guys, it's Stephanie, Beatriz and Melissa Fumero. And this is more better. We are jumping right in and ready to hear from you. Your thoughts, your questions, your feelings about socks with sandals. And we're ready to share some possibly questionable advice and hot takes. God, that sucks so hard though. I'm so sorry. Can you out petty them? Can you match their pettiness for funsies? Yeah, we had so much fun last season. Laughing, crying, talking to some new and old friends.

[Dan]

Remember when we were in that scene.

[Stephanie]

Where you guys were just supposed to.

[Dan]

Hug and I was standing?

[Stephanie]

Oh yeah.

[Dan]

And I was like can I also hug them?

[Stephanie]

I'm like, this has no friends this time around we are say it Melissa. Should I say it? Getting a little more better. Oh finally. It's all the dressing room talk you.

[Dan]

Loved in season one.

[Stephanie]

All the things because aren't we all trying to get a little more better. Listen to more better on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Dan]

Hello, puzzlers. Let's start with a quick puzzle. The answer is Ken Jennings appearance on the puzzler with A.J. jacobs. The question is, what is the most entertaining listening experience in podcast land? Jeopardy. Truthers who say that you were given all the answers believe in. I guess they would be conspiracy theorists. That's right. Are there Jeopardy.

[Stephanie]

Truthers?

[Dan]

Are there people who say that it. It was rigged?

[Ty]

Yeah.

[Dan]

Ever since I was first on, people are like, they gave you the answers. Right. And then there's the other ones, which are like, they give you the answers and you still blew it. Don't miss Jeopardy. Legend Ken Jennings on our special game show week of the Puzzler podcast. The Puzzler is the best place to get your daily word puzzle fix. Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Either way, I need Aisha Curry to sit with somebody because we get a great clip every day.

[Ty]

What is Aisha Curry?

[Stephanie]

You know, the crazy is she's still saying the same shit that she said before, and they kill her every time she say it.

[Ty]

What is she saying?

[Dan]

I mean, according to the Internet, that she just wants to fuck other people.

[Stephanie]

But she just said that she wasn't expected to be. We talked about this. She just said it in a different interview. She wasn't expected to be a mom. Being a mom wasn't her dream, and now it takes some adjusting.

[Dan]

Same shit.

[Stephanie]

Every woman ever has said that again.

[Ty]

Yeah, so. But why are people. So why are people so, like, hell bent when she says that? Like, do people not understand what she's saying? Okay, so people may not understand what you're saying. What Ayesha Curry is saying is her dream wasn't to just be a mom and a housewife and, you know, take care of the family. Like, she probably had dreams of being a fashion designer, a cook or a chef, whatever. Like, what's wrong with saying that? She's not saying she's not happy in her marriage. She's not saying that her and Steph are fucking on the verge of a divorce and they don't like each other. Like, no, she just saying she didn't think that this would be her life. Like, she would be married with kids this young. And, you know, like, a lot of the dreams she probably had as a young girl and told herself what she wanted to be when she grow up, she never accomplished because she got Married and started a family really early. But, like, life is great for Aisha Curry. She's happy, her family's happy, healthy. Like, people gotta stop taking what she's saying to mean that she's not happy in her marriage and in her family with Steph Curry. Like, that's just stupid for people to keep trying to spend that.

[Dan]

I mean, you know, I've been very supportive of her and everyone trying to kill her over absolute nonsense. But. But after having the same talking points and yet another interview. Aisha Curry, I will tell you, I'm on the other side of this entire thing. It's not that great. I would knock up Caitlin Clark tomorrow and be a stay at home dad and never work again.

[Ty]

Nice.

[Dan]

This side is not. It's not as cool as you think it is.

[Ty]

Chasing your dreams.

[Dan]

Serious. It's not. It's a lot of heartbreak. It's a lot of financial disaster. It's. It keeps you up at night. I would happily, happily be a stay at home dad for Caitlin Clark tomorrow. We can burn all these cameras if she'll have me.

[Stephanie]

You say that now. You say that now.

[Ty]

No, I say that forever.

[Stephanie]

You built a whole entire business. You've discovered who you are. You found your passions, your dreams. Oh, God, yes. You work so hard, but a lot of it, you enjoy.

[Ty]

So in those, I would love to wake up every day and just have a latte and go to Pilates.

[Dan]

You know how much that's not what.

[Stephanie]

Being a mom is. You know how a mom is creative?

[Ty]

Yeah. At school. Yeah.

[Stephanie]

You know that there's a while before you get to drop them kids off. And then after you drop the kids off, you gotta, like, clean and make sure they're okay and do all.

[Ty]

We got money. See you missing. We got money. We got nannies.

[Dan]

The train nanny's gonna raise them.

[Ty]

Yeah, you don't do that. You don't. You know, I don't even see my kids. You gotta serve. You gotta. You got 100 M's. The marriage. You got 100 M's. You don't have to see your kids.

[Dan]

That's why spoiled rich kids grow up to be so great sometimes.

[Stephanie]

Sometimes people, like, still, like, love their kids and, like, want to raise them sometimes. Foreign. Foreign concept.

[Dan]

But you got 100 million people that love their kids. Don't even. Like, their kids don't do that.

[Ty]

Yeah. Like, they want to see their kids. Like, just go in the room. Like, just go do something for a few hours. Like, I don't want to see you. But you got 100 million. You got three nannies. Life is. Life is okay.

[Dan]

Yo, how creative I could get with Caitlin Clark's credit card. I'd find happiness. Yeah, I could do a lot of stuff. I could chase a lot of dreams with eight hours of just chilling and I had her credit card. Yeah, I'd find. I'd find a way.

[Ty]

You'll find a way to make yourself happy.

[Dan]

I would have enough money. I'd do the Love 2 album.

[Ty]

But.

[Stephanie]

Kayla Clark has a. Has wakes way more money than that.

[Dan]

She may make 70, 000 from the WMB from the fever.

[Ty]

That may be her salary from the Fever. But I can promise you Caitlin Clark, she donated.

[Dan]

I'm sure she donated that directly to charity. What she got then. But. Yeah, I mean I. I feel you, but it's not that great over here.

[Ty]

Yeah, but people got to stop taking what she's saying just. And just turning her words into she's not happy.

[Stephanie]

Once people. The Internet picks someone to hate, especially misogynistic people on the Internet, once they take someone to hate, they hate them forever. It doesn't matter if anything they say makes sense.

[Dan]

They just hate them anyways though, back to the. The Yankee bus trip group chat that they did say that one of those illegals attacked a 69 year old truck driver over the weekend. And I clicked the link and it was Mark Sanchez.

[Ty]

What did Mark Sanchez.

[Dan]

He got stabbed. He attacked a 69 year old guy and got stabbed. At one point Mark Sanchez was in critical condition.

[Ty]

Wow.

[Dan]

You didn't see this?

[Ty]

No.

[Dan]

Okay. Yeah. So it started out it was all like prayers for Mark. I hate the Jets. And even I was like, damn, that's up Y' all stabbed Mark Sanchez for what? Then more information started to come out and he was the aggressor and the 69 year old guy was defending himself and you know, had it on him and had a dice. Dice Mark up a little bit.

[Ty]

So this was a. Just a road. Like a road rage of something.

[Dan]

Yeah. So essentially there was some type of altercation that authorities still can't figure out what really caused it or what had Mark just freaking out. But he ended up beating the out of this old guy. He pepper sprayed him. That didn't work, you know, because Mark is used to DNS and the guy had to end up stabbing him to. To protect himself. Listen man, that's just.

[Ty]

That's just weird.

[Dan]

Will Smith did not put on that terrible accent for nothing.

[Ty]

So you think this may be a cte?

[Dan]

Hell yeah. Based off this is going off the little bit of information that, that we have and they're saying they don't know what caused Mark to go off like that. One can make the assumption of the amount of hits an NFL quarterback takes. Yeah, I'm sure that can cause that type of rage out of nowhere.

[Ty]

Yeah. Because it sounds like it wasn't even that serious of a situation to end up getting stabbed over.

[Dan]

But listen, we, we don't know, we don't know all the details. So I don't want to say this was some, you know, Aaron Hernandez trigger CTE situation. Maybe the old said something crazy, I don't know. But for what we do know now, there wasn't a clear reason on why Mark Sanchez did what he did.

[Ty]

Say he's been charged with three misdemeanors.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Ty]

And level five felony.

[Dan]

I don't know, I, I just think it's one kind of crazy that a 69 year old is driving a truck and also has pepper spray and also has a knife. This is like three things I just wouldn't.

[Ty]

Why is it, why is it crazy.

[Dan]

For 69 also beating the out of a 69 year old is nuts.

[Ty]

But, but why is it crazy for a 69 year old to be driving a truck?

[Dan]

I mean, you know, you think 69.

[Ty]

Year olds can't drive trucks?

[Dan]

I think some 69 year olds got. I just feel like those jobs should maybe go to younger people.

[Stephanie]

Rory has always said that he thinks that older people should take their driver's license again because he hates old people driving. We say that's a common thing with him.

[Dan]

I, I legitimately almost like snitched to the state of Illinois on my grandfather. Like why did you give this 90 year old man a license again? Yeah, why are you allowed?

[Ty]

69 is totally different.

[Dan]

No, for sure. But I, I do think at some point certain jobs. Yeah, maybe it's better go to younger people. Yeah, that's, that's, that's all. But doesn't mean he deserves to be beat up by an NFL quarterback.

[Ty]

But look, he had it on him. See, he never knew he was gonna run into Mark Sanchez. I'm believing. But he knew one day he would have to stab somebody.

[Dan]

I was in, I was in AutoZone getting oil for my car and you know like at the, the checkout where usually you'd buy gum, they have pepper spray there like in a bowl that she could just buy. And I was like, nah, I feel so buying pepper spray. I just feel like as a man, like I feel like which, which is up like all Right. Allegedly. Allegedly. Tata. I understand his situation. If you can't bring in anything into an arena to protect your team and your crew, all right? Pepper spray is the only thing we get in. We can't get. We can't get any other tools in, so we're gonna do that. I understand in that situation, but I do feel kind of like a lady in distress. If I was just walking down the street with pepper spray in my pocket, part of my male ego would feel really odd about just having pepper spray over me.

[Ty]

I might be with you on that one.

[Dan]

Like, nah, I'll take the ass whooping.

[Ty]

Yeah.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Ty]

The man having pepper spray is a little crazy. Like, you go over, you go. A man come over your house to Marison. He put his keys on your counter.

[Stephanie]

Not on the keys.

[Dan]

Is crazy.

[Ty]

And he got pepper. He got pepper sprints. He got pepper. All right? So that's better than if y' all sitting down on the couch and he reached. Like, he reached behind and put his arm on yak and his shirt go up, and you see the pepper spray clipped on his hip like a. A Glock. That's. That's better.

[Stephanie]

The crazy is I would assume that he, like, if you carrying pepper spray, like, you just don't want to shoot a woman, like, why I'm not gonna. Like, do you think I'm gonna rob you? Like, I would think the pepper spray was for me.

[Dan]

Wait, what? How did you interpret it that way?

[Ty]

What the is wrong with you?

[Dan]

Well, you think he came to the crib to beat and then.

[Stephanie]

No, no. I. I feel like, why do you have the pepper spray on your hip? Like, who are you protecting yourself from? Like, me. That's what I would think.

[Ty]

Like, no, he's. That's. But that's what we saying. Like, the fact that as a man, you have pepper spray clipped onto your. Your pants.

[Stephanie]

Maybe I'll parole.

[Dan]

What?

[Stephanie]

What if you are parole, you're not supposed to have a gun. No. If somebody run up on you, if you have a gun, you're gonna use it. No, you have the pepper. Pepper spray to keep yourself out of jail. Don't be making sense to y'.

[Ty]

All.

[Stephanie]

That make perfect sense in my brain.

[Dan]

I'm. Well, I'm telling you that male ego makes no sense. It would.

[Ty]

It would behoove versus pepper spray on his. On his hip.

[Stephanie]

If you guys are. Are on parole and shouldn't be getting into. Carry pepper spray on you so that you can protect yourself and also not go back to jail.

[Ty]

Isn't it illegal in New York pepper spray.

[Dan]

I was in New Jersey. I was at an AutoZone in New Jersey. So I don't know. But it could be different in New York City between that.

[Stephanie]

But it might be.

[Dan]

Nah. Because.

[Stephanie]

But if you use it on somebody to protect yourself, you're not going to jail for using pepper spray. It might be illegal, but you're not going to jail.

[Ty]

It's legal in New York City.

[Dan]

But I've always felt like I've had girlfriends that ordered pepper spray off Amazon, which I was happy about. You should always, always be able to protect yourself. But as somebody that's been pepper sprayed twice, like, I feel like you need some form of training because pepper spray is. Is not for play. Play.

[Stephanie]

I see people pepper spray themselves.

[Dan]

All the is pepper stray will you up. So just to just give that to anyone. Like Basil's just sending that to you with. No, no, like release form something like you. You should be able. I think in the police academy you have to get sprayed by pepper spray to carry it. And I'm not saying our police training is. Is top tier, but that does make sense to me. You should know what the pepper spray feels like before you just walk around willy nilly. Because some people just have anger issues and it's not to protect themselves. They just have pepper spray and they're pissed.

[Ty]

Yeah, I think any man carrying pepper spray is fucking crazy. That I still can't. That's. Add that to the list of things that men can't do. Men can't own pepper spray.

[Stephanie]

That's crazy.

[Dan]

But we're not allowed to be happy. So I mean, men can.

[Stephanie]

Listen y' all see. Y' all see how y' all be saying women be like, men can't do this. Men can do that. No, men be saying men can't do this, man.

[Ty]

No, no, for sure. 100%. 100%. Like, yeah, I'm one of those men. A man should not have pepper spray spray like, come on, fam. Pepper spray. Like if we get. I'm getting into argument with somebody, I'm supposed to back out the pepper spray and just spray this dude.

[Stephanie]

Yeah.

[Ty]

What you mean? Yeah, like he. We arguing and I'm supposed to just bust him with pepper spray.

[Stephanie]

Well, okay, well why are you gonna bust them with the pepper spray? Pepper spray is to protect yourself. Unless you feel threatened, you shouldn't be using a pepper spray.

[Ty]

Yeah, but I'm saying I'm getting like a Mark Sanchez. I'm getting into argument with somebody. Like I'm supposed to back out the pepper spray and hit them with the spray.

[Stephanie]

Nah, but if he whooping your ass.

[Dan]

Then you gotta spray him.

[Ty]

He had to end up stabbing him. I see. But I feel like that's worse. I feel like if it's just fist me and another man is going. It ain't like he backed out something.

[Stephanie]

He fist is fine.

[Dan]

But if he pull out a knife.

[Ty]

I need pepper spray him. No, he got just hands. But he fucking me up. Now back out the pepper spray. That's not crazy to you.

[Stephanie]

Don't do that. Don't do that.

[Ty]

You right. That's what I'm saying. Why do I have the pepper? Like, we know there's crazy people out here. I would hope that at this point in my life I wouldn't run into somebody and we get into a fight and he pull a knife or a gun out on me like.

[Stephanie]

But if you pull a knife out, pepper spray him.

[Ty]

No, if he pull a knife out, then yeah, I'm asked out. Cause I ain't got no pepper spray.

[Stephanie]

And the nigga next to you that got the pepper spray, he not asked out. He not stabbed you stabbed up.

[Ty]

No, I'm running.

[Dan]

Pepper spray didn't work. He had to stab him.

[Ty]

Yeah, he had to take it to another level. Mark wasn't backing down.

[Dan]

Even though I did make the original point that men should not carry pepper spray because it's a little feminine. There are some cases. Tata One understand. In the event that a 69 year old man runs into an NFL quarterback that wants to beat the out of him, I'm okay with that guy having pepper spray. That's. I would never think that this scenario would ever exist. But now that I know it exists, 69 year olds should be able to carry pepper spray because clearly NFL quarterbacks are targeting them. Yeah, I'm losing a fight to Mark Sanchez.

[Ty]

Another thing that.

[Dan]

And I'm 35.

[Ty]

Another thing that men should do. Damaris. You go to a concert with a dude, you turn around and he. He's recording like everybody in the arena.

[Dan]

You mean this move doesn't turn no.

[Ty]

Fuck.

[Dan]

Stop.

[Ty]

Men can't record. Yo, I'm.

[Stephanie]

You can record the concert. No, no, no.

[Ty]

That's not what you said. It has to be.

[Stephanie]

You can record the concert.

[Ty]

It has to be a female performance.

[Stephanie]

No, that's. You know what? You can record the concert, but it could be.

[Ty]

Chris Brown is crazy. But if you start niggas recording, CB Is crazy.

[Dan]

I did it.

[Ty]

That's nasty.

[Dan]

And what's so nasty is I did it and I didn't Post it.

[Ty]

Cause you know it's nasty.

[Dan]

But no, it's nastier that I didn't post it.

[Ty]

Nasty. For a man to record Chris Brown's concert. That is disgusting. I don't care what none of y' all say. You supposed to just live in the moment. It's supposed to just be a memory.

[Stephanie]

Oh, my God.

[Dan]

Memories don't live, like, period.

[Ty]

It's supposed to just be a memory.

[Dan]

They always remember you.

[Ty]

Now, if it's. If. If it's a Chr. If it's a Chris Brown show and Kehlani pop out. Oh, it's time to record. That's Kehlani.

[Stephanie]

Okay, can you record.

[Ty]

Okay, but CB Doing his ballad and you like this? Nah. Yes.

[Stephanie]

Hold on. There's two instances if he's singing Damage, right? And you can you send it to your ex that you cheated on.

[Ty]

That was y' all song. You cannot record no man performing.

[Stephanie]

Okay, that's one. And number two, if he got Kayla Nicole up there and they grinding, you can't record that either.

[Ty]

No, that's nasty.

[Stephanie]

Mal said it, not me.

[Ty]

That's nasty work.

[Stephanie]

I'm fine with you recording at a concert. Just don't turn around with cheese and get in the audience. That's gonna piss me off.

[Ty]

I can actually. This is why it's nasty. Can I ask you something? What am I gonna do with that. That video?

[Stephanie]

Well, some people just post where they are. Like, if you post it, like, oh, you're at a show post. That's fine. I don't think the man's gonna take it and beat off to it in the bathroom.

[Ty]

No, but that's nasty to just be like. It's nasty to be walking into the Chris Brown concert and you record the stadium. What is that?

[Stephanie]

Who did it? Somebody must have did it cause it.

[Ty]

No, I'm just saying. Cause I look at it like. I go to events. I don't record shit. Like, we went to SummerSlam and I recorded Jade Walking there. That's Jade, though. We was there for Jade. Did I pull out my phone when fucking Logan Paul walked in the fucking.

[Dan]

I didn't record none of that.

[Ty]

I didn't that. With Jay walking down the. Oh, yeah. Like, damn. Okay. That Jay. Yeah. But when Logan came out. Well, what's that guy's name? A Jelly Roll. I didn't record none of that.

[Dan]

Oh, I think I recorded the entire match.

[Ty]

Nah, hell no. That's nasty work.

[Stephanie]

I know why you were there with your man's because your man's got you in.

[Dan]

But you Two should not be singing.

[Stephanie]

Two should not be calling each other and saying, yo, we go. We out to Chris Brown together. That's all right, I'm with more. That's a little.

[Ty]

Yo, I told you. Aside from. Aside from.

[Dan]

I went to the show by myself.

[Ty]

But listen, aside from the weather.

[Stephanie]

Stop arguing. Just argue.

[Ty]

Listen. Aside from the weather being trash that day, I really felt nasty going to that Chris Brown show. Like, I got dressed and put cologne on. I was like, what the fuck am I doing? Like, you're drowning.

[Stephanie]

You're dragging it. You're dragging it.

[Dan]

You thought it was.

[Ty]

But when I get dressed to go outside, I put. That's part of my routine. But when I did it, I'm like, yo, I'm going to Chris Brown show, though.

[Dan]

Like, why am I. Yeah, but your generation thinks it's a stat that men would faint when they'd see Michael Jackson. So now I can't sing with justice at a Chris Brown show.

[Ty]

That's gay, too. Who told you that was a stat?

[Stephanie]

You would have fainted.

[Ty]

At what?

[Stephanie]

At Michael Jackson.

[Dan]

You wouldn't record Michael Jackson.

[Stephanie]

God, you would have hit knee.

[Ty]

Y' all are crazy, y'. All.

[Dan]

You're lying.

[Ty]

You think I would.

[Dan]

You lying.

[Ty]

You think I would have fainted?

[Dan]

You are lying right now. If Michael Jackson was in front of you performing. You're bringing out your phone and going.

[Ty]

Oh, my God, no. You said I would faint.

[Dan]

No, I don't think he faint.

[Ty]

Oh, that's what I'm saying.

[Stephanie]

I said he faint.

[Ty]

Get the out of here.

[Dan]

Fainted?

[Ty]

Are you crazy? Faded, Faded. Yo, yo, what the you talking about fainting? Yo, if I faint, I have a serious health condition. They got nothing to do with Michael Jackson.

[Dan]

I'm tell you this. If all faints, I'm taking my phone out to record when the EMTs come and give him a smelling salt to wake him up. Yeah, I'm not footage of some emt. Just putting some in mall's nose. And him coming to would be the funniest.

[Ty]

But Michael I. But Michael Jackson is like the. The exception. You could, like, you could record Mike, you're telling me.

[Dan]

Was it Atlanta? Chris Brown brought out Usher a few days ago.

[Stephanie]

Yeah, I would have died.

[Dan]

Who's not pulling their phone out? Like, look at this, bro.

[Ty]

I went to the Usher show and didn't record nothing. And that's one of the greatest shows I've ever seen in my life.

[Dan]

Okay, well, okay, granted, I am very much pro now. Not recording at shows I typically do not because I do like, to enjoy the experience. And honestly, when you record a show, it. It's not like it's good. Like, you don't, like, watch back the footage. Like, wow, this was great. Because it's a cell phone footage. But I do understand why people do it. To capture that moment that they can look back on. Like, if Usher and Chris Brown are together. Yeah, I might. I might go like this. Wow.

[Ty]

But, you know, we've been waiting for this. You know why it's nastier now? Because you could literally pull that video up anytime you want right now.

[Dan]

You could just watch it in 4K.

[Ty]

That's what. That's what I'm saying. So you wanting to record, it's like, bro, that's gonna be. This is gonna be everywhere in 10 seconds. You do not have to record this.

[Dan]

Yeah, but I mean, are you ever on, like, a plane and don't get the WI fi and just be going through your camera roll and like, oh, damn. I remember this day. I do that sometimes. That's fun.

[Ty]

Okay, that's what's up.

[Stephanie]

Yeah.

[Dan]

Okay, now. All right, now, men can't reminisce.

[Ty]

No, yo, men can't reminisce.

[Stephanie]

Funniest.

[Ty]

Men can't say REM of all. Men can't reminisce. No, we can't reminisce.

[Dan]

So, all right, so P Rock and CL Smooth, we get them out the culture.

[Ty]

No, those are the only ones. Only Pete Rock, only two people allowed to remember those are the only. Only ones allowed to reminisce is P. Rock and CL Smooth. Anybody else just remember. All you other niggas just remember, don't reminisce. Pete Rock and CL Smooth was the only. Only people that can reminisce. That's it.

[Dan]

That's hilarious. All right, well, don't. Don't pull your phone out at a show.

[Ty]

I just felt like it was nasty. Like, just to see men, like, recording it' like, yo, y' all look crazy. Like, that is wild. But I don't know. Some things just. Just. I don't know. I just get, like. It just gives me, like. You know what I mean? It's like the ick. Like, nobody. Like, you know how you see something and you be trying to look around and see if anybody else kind of, like, saw what you just saw? Like, when I see men doing that, I be looking around, like, trying to look for the women. Like, yo, y' all don't see these N s in here. Like, this ain't crazy.

[Stephanie]

Y' all don't see These niggas in here. It's funny.

[Ty]

These niggas is recording Chris Moonwalking like Damaris.

[Dan]

Let's see how honest Mole's gonna be real quick. Okay, We. We. We know Maul has been in courtrooms and courtside. He's seen both sides. We know Ma has been to a lot of NBA games in some. In some seats that you and I could never dream of. Have you ever pulled your phone out and recorded grown tall men playing. Playing a child's game in shorts?

[Stephanie]

Yes. You have?

[Ty]

Yeah. I recorded Kobe's last game. Game in Detroit.

[Dan]

Okay. Incredible. Kobe's last game. That's monumental. I do think it doesn't compare, but it is in the same conversation of Chris Brown and Usher being on stage together.

[Stephanie]

I actually think Chris Brown and Usher.

[Ty]

Is a little bit more.

[Dan]

But, yeah, Kobe's last game will be one thing. Kobe's last game in Detroit is just like, who cares that much about the Pistons?

[Ty]

No, it wasn't about the Pistons.

[Dan]

It wasn't his last game. It was his last game in Detroit.

[Ty]

Yeah, but it was about. Yeah, but I was caught side for that.

[Dan]

So you don't think there's running past.

[Stephanie]

Wiping sweat flying on you? Gay.

[Ty]

You think somebody was throwing sweat on me unintentionally?

[Stephanie]

Yeah, they running past sweat. Bacteria travels.

[Ty]

Yeah.

[Stephanie]

You smell a must up close in front of you.

[Ty]

I can promise you a has never threw his sweat on me.

[Stephanie]

Okay. I promise you, if you sniff hard enough, you can smell them sweating on the bench next to you over there.

[Dan]

And don't do that. You was playing lockdown defense on Ray Row Rice. Sweat definitely got on you.

[Ty]

No, if I'm playing, that's different. I'm talking about at a. Like, I'm a. I'm just a watching the game. Like, you think sweat is flying over? No. Hell no. That's not happening. But yes, I have recorded.

[Dan]

Do you think there's some comparison there? Like, can you get mad at the guy that takes his phone out for Chris Brown's last show at MetLife as comparison to Kobe's last game at Little Caesar's Arena?

[Ty]

I think it's a little different. Only because it's like this man is singing to women.

[Dan]

Yeah, I'm filming him singing to women.

[Ty]

That's crazy. That's crazy to me. That's. Wow. That's not wild to you?

[Dan]

No.

[Ty]

Okay. You and justice singing together is crazy, though. I'm gonna. What you talking about right now. Me and my man was not at that Kobe game singing to each other.

[Dan]

But you guys were clapping when he scored.

[Ty]

And. And yo, you seen that.

[Dan]

I don't know if it's much difference. No, that's a different yo Dapping after.

[Ty]

Somebody else scores you and your man singing with. Homie is singing. And he ain't singing to y'. All.

[Stephanie]

He's singing to everybody. He's singing to the audience.

[Ty]

Wasn't singing to this man. He somebody singing everybody. You think Chris was singing to Rory?

[Dan]

I think he looked at us.

[Ty]

You think Chris cared about what Rory felt about that record? Maybe Chris was worried about all them 20,000 women in that, I believe.

[Dan]

Doesn't Chris Brown have a album called Fan something?

[Stephanie]

Fan of a fan.

[Dan]

Yeah, he's a. He's a fan of all of his fans. He cares about all of us. That's a. That's a breezy thing.

[Stephanie]

He care about everybody that bought a ticket. You ain't buying a ticket, though, so he probably didn't care about you. But he cared about everybody bought a ticket.

[Ty]

But Damaris, she know what I'm saying, though. She know that's kind of ick. You heard. You see, when I first acted, she.

[Stephanie]

Was like, no, because that. The men turning around and filming the arena.

[Ty]

That.

[Stephanie]

It gave me the egg. But you want to film the show. I don't care about that. Don't. Just don't do too much. Like, don't have a phone up the whole time when you're not doing that.

[Ty]

See, sh. Stipulations come with it. But now it just don't sink.

[Stephanie]

But I don't like that with anybody. Like, watch the fucking show. I don't like you recording the whole concert the whole entire time anyway.

[Dan]

Why even go to a Chris Brown show if you're not going to scream yo. Like what?

[Ty]

You screamed yo.

[Dan]

Of course I did. They cut the music. All of us said it in unison.

[Ty]

He screamed, yo.

[Stephanie]

Yeah. Cause he know how it feel when. When you gotta ask a yo. Tell me, fellas, have you seen her? Like, he know. He get.

[Dan]

I know. Erica.

[Ty]

Minna, you screamed yo. At a Chris Brown concert.

[Dan]

Of course I did. I didn't stop singing at that show. I actually was shocked at how much Chris Brown lyrics. I know.

[Ty]

I'm shocked.

[Dan]

I was like, damn. I know every word to every.

[Ty]

I'm shocked by how much Chris Brown lyrics. You know, I'm actually appalled right now that you know so many Chris Brown lyrics, I guess. Have fun, man. I don't know.

[Dan]

If I was with a girl, I probably wouldn't have been singing passionately with justice because I'm sure that may give her the ick, but it was just the fellas, so I could be wrong.

[Ty]

Here, but let me. Let me pull up. I'm not gonna have Josh pull up the meaning of the definition of gay.

[Dan]

All right, man.

[Ty]

Light hearted and carefree. Okay, so that's gay.

[Dan]

Happy.

[Ty]

Yeah. You were gay.

[Dan]

The real definition of gay is happy.

[Stephanie]

Ain't nobody more lighthearted and carefree than you.

[Ty]

You who?

[Stephanie]

You.

[Ty]

I'm light hearted and carefree?

[Stephanie]

Yeah.

[Ty]

Have you ever seen me light hearted?

[Dan]

Well, why are you saying that like it's an insult? It's okay to be light hearted.

[Ty]

I'm not. I'm not saying. She said, nobody's more light hearted and carefree than me.

[Dan]

Yeah, you're a light hearted, carefree person.

[Ty]

Nan had a gay disposition and a very pretty face. I don't know what that means, but that's just one of the definitions and examples of being gay.

[Dan]

That's what Webster.

[Ty]

Light hearted and carefree. Yeah. The city's gay and lesbian people. The cities. I'm just reading the definition, man.

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[Ty]

Hello.

[Dan]

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[Ty]

But fear not not.

[Dan]

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[Ty]

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[Dan]

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[Ty]

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[Dan]

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[Ty]

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[Dan]

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[Ty]

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[Ty]

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[Ty]

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[Dan]

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[Ty]

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[Dan]

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[Ty]

Also in October we'll be talking about our favorite horror and Halloween movie and figure out why black people always gotta die first. The Umbral reliquary invites any and all.

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[Dan]

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[Stephanie]

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[Dan]

Remember when we were in that scene.

[Stephanie]

Where you guys were just supposed to.

[Dan]

Hug and I was standing?

[Stephanie]

Oh yeah.

[Dan]

And I was like, can I also hug them? I'm like, this has no friends.

[Stephanie]

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[Dan]

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[Stephanie]

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[Dan]

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[Stephanie]

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[Dan]

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[Stephanie]

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[Dan]

I mean, what would be worse? Harmonizing with your man or battling a woman on stage for URL.

[Ty]

I never understood that. We spoke about that before.

[Dan]

Why men should not battle women.

[Ty]

Yeah, I think. I think that's. I mean, I get what they were trying to do with that, but I always felt like that was a little crazy. Cause it just gives you the space. Just because battle rap is disrespectful, that's who has the most disrespectful bars. So it just creates a space where it's like, it's okay to talk crazy to this woman right now. Like. And granted, some of the, you know, the female MCs are dope and they hold their own, but I just always felt like that was just a little odd to kind of create that space where it's like, nah, get your shit off against her. Like, you want me to talk crazy about this woman standing there like. Like.

[Dan]

Well, I mean, for. For some backstory here. Loaded. Lux turned down, allegedly turned down 250k to battle Jazz the rapper. He said, I can't go to war with the. The divine feminine. This is still a pure space for me. I. I feel like Lux is one of the few battlers that I would like to see battle a woman, because I know how creative he could get and wouldn't do the obvious disrespect or, like, call her a and this and that. Like, I think Lux is that dope. That he could find a great way to battle a woman.

[Ty]

Yeah, no, he don't gotta. He don't gotta. He don't gotta curse at her, but he gonna disrespect her in a very eloquent way, because that's what battle rap is.

[Dan]

Did you ever watch the Netflix show Rhythm and Flow? So flawless. Real talk, who's an incredible artist and rapper. He battled Beans and Shout out to Beans. Beans is also dope in her own right and makes great music. He battled her, and he did it in a very classy and respectful way and still smoked her. And Beans held her own. Don't get. Don't get me wrong, if Beans would have battled anybody else that day, she would have continued. She just went up against Flawless, who went nuts. But he. He started the whole out with like, I'm not about to call you a. And then smoked her, like, in a very respectful way.

[Stephanie]

Can you sit me down and force me to watch that battle?

[Dan]

He went nuts on that shout out to Flawless, man.

[Ty]

He. He.

[Dan]

He went nuts in that battle.

[Ty]

Yeah, but I also understand what Lux is saying, though.

[Dan]

But I. We've seen an example of. Even though that was, you know, one round and not exactly URL, Even though Smack was hosting it, but I. I think I would like to see somebody like Lux do that. Like, if Hollow was the one. And no disrespect to Hollow, I just, you know, Hollow was just gonna say, if Arsenal went against a woman, I'd be like, oh, God, he's about to be. Oh, he has.

[Ty]

Oh, though, I think.

[Dan]

I apologize.

[Ty]

Maybe he was talking to a dude like that.

[Dan]

First of all, AR is one of the most disrespectful human beings on earth.

[Ty]

But that's why that. That rap battle. I just can't. I. Cuz, fuck battle rap. It would be crazy for a real, like, recording artist, a real rapper. I won't say real rapper, but like a recording artist to, like, go at a woman like that on Whack. That would even be crazy. Like, if you hear one of these rappers going at. One of. Going at. You know what? I'm just like, like, you really going in on Shorty, Like a whole direct.

[Dan]

Diss, not just like a little shot. Because we've seen little shots.

[Ty]

No, little shots is. Is fine. That's. You know, we haven't.

[Dan]

You want the whole hove this too, Nicky?

[Ty]

Yeah, like that. That would be crazy. It'd be like, wait, what? Like you really stepped in the booth and recorded these balls going at this woman like this? Like, Seth. I don't know.

[Dan]

Just.

[Ty]

I don't know. It's just. It's a little. I understand luck. I understand his stance on it. It's just like. Because mentally, you have to. You know, he has to change his whole approach because again, he's talking to a woman. He has respect for women as. As. Just as women as an. And as an mc. But it's like, you know, I feel why he's staying away from it, though. It's kind of like, man, I don't want to do that. I'm not trying to step into that.

[Dan]

Well, do you think Pardee's record to Meg was a battle record or a breakup record? Because he tore her up.

[Ty]

Yeah, but I don't. But again, that's as much as they.

[Dan]

Of course they have. They had a history. Rappers have always rap about. But n. That was a battle record, though, because she's also a rapper. A lot of artists have rapped about women that can't rap back.

[Ty]

Yeah, but I mean, that was different because that was. You know, they were in a relationship, and, you know, he probably had some. He just wanted to get off, but. So that's a little different. But, yeah, I don't. I don't know if I want to see men battling women in battle rap. I never really was a fan of that. And I definitely understand where Lux is coming from. Like, I just. I feel the same way. Like, I just. I can't do it. I can't even wrap my mind around doing that.

[Dan]

I mean, I. I just feel like I more so would be interested in the woman's point of view. Like, I would be scared, because women can insult us worse than any man can. And if you get the right woman that has the right type of pen, that's a battle I would like to see of her breaking down an entire man's psyche. That could get nasty. That could get third round Lux type shit.

[Ty]

Yeah, but that's. You still at a disadvantage, because, again, the woman, she could say what she want to say and disrespect me, then I gotta try to disrespect it. Now. What if I done dug up some information and found out she had an abortion two years ago, and I start rhyming from the perspective of the aborted baby?

[Stephanie]

I'm sorry.

[Ty]

Like, what if I give y' all that? What if I give y' all that that. You know what I'm saying? Like, what if I give y' all that? Like, what if I go there?

[Stephanie]

Yo, you really caught me off guard with that one.

[Ty]

I'm just saying, like, as a. As you know, these guys are creative. Lux is creative. If Lux found out Jazz the rapper had an abortion last summer, and he decides he want to be the aborted fetus and rhyme from that perspective to his mom. Well, y' all not giving Lux the credit he deserve. This is Lux we talking about.

[Dan]

Like, she could just say it's a woman's right to choose. Don DeMarco. Marco.

[Ty]

Yeah, I mean, I'm just saying, it could get crazy. Jazz might be up there. She might start crying. You know what I'm saying? Like, and then now Lux is the bad guy. Lux wasn't supposed to go there. He went personal. He went too personal. He brought up some. He wasn't supposed to bring up.

[Dan]

I know.

[Ty]

I think everybody who told him that didn't turn to that. Who told him Jazz had an abortion? Not saying Jazz. I don't know Jazz rappers. I don't know if Jazz the rapper has ever had an abortion. I'm just saying if she was battling somebody like Luxx, he would do his due diligence for sure and try to find out shit like that.

[Dan]

But Jazz is talented enough that I think she could get like a Clip third round rebuttal, like to what Rex said when he called Clip's dad a snitch and gave the whole story. Like, I think she. If she had that information and knew other people knew it, I think she would be ready to retort something like that. I think she would have a round.

[Ty]

Yeah, but you still not ready. I hear you, but no woman is ready to hear. Hear that from somebody on stage, in front of people about something so personal and private that she didn't think anybody would know about. And then coming from somebody who's as clever with words as like luck, bro.

[Dan]

You not preparing information. You're not preparing from an aborted baby's perspective, not prepared.

[Ty]

And then now if Jazz start crying up there. Lux is a bad guy. Lux is fucked.

[Stephanie]

I don't put that on Jazz.

[Dan]

Yeah, what you mean don't put that on Jazz?

[Ty]

No, I'm saying if this is all hypothetical. I'm saying if that was but Jazz.

[Dan]

Talented about a male.

[Stephanie]

A male battle rapper. What you mean that you wouldn't say no if. If what you call it? Start crying up there. Don't like you wouldn't say that. You assume that she would cry cuz.

[Ty]

She was a woman.

[Stephanie]

You wouldn't say that about.

[Ty]

If he starts talking about her abortion and starts saying some crazy.

[Stephanie]

I think that Jazz can handle a lot or else she wouldn't have become bad.

[Dan]

Wild things have been said about. I was going to say first of.

[Stephanie]

All all, no one's more disrespectful to women when it comes to saying mean.

[Dan]

Than women like those women battles is rough.

[Stephanie]

If there was an abortion to find, the women would have found it already.

[Ty]

None of them can't write like Lux. Lux going to start.

[Dan]

Well, that's just in general, Lux is Lux.

[Ty]

So this is what we talking about. We talking about Lux battling.

[Dan]

But you don't think Jazz could have an angle back with her skill level of why women do get abortions. Because some of the men that would be the father of that child or such a piece of shit that it's better that I kill this kid. Yeah.

[Ty]

And then that's. And then that's when Lux gonna come back with his next round and be like, you have bad taste in men. Pick your king's better queen.

[Stephanie]

Yo, Hottis became a fool.

[Ty]

Pick your king's better queen.

[Stephanie]

Twitter dialect fucking rat.

[Ty]

Pick your king's better queen. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, he gonna get it to all. Yeah. So this is the high level thinking of Luxx. Like he thinks on that type of level. So I can understand why he chooses to stay away from that. Cause it's like. Like I'm going to go somewhere and it's going to. You know, it could. It could really sting and hurt, you know, her. Her emotions. And she's emotional on stage. And now I look like I did something wrong.

[Dan]

250 though. Come on, man. We disrespected women for less.

[Ty]

Yeah, that's a fact. That is a. That is a fact.

[Dan]

250 though.

[Ty]

And I get to disrespect got up there. I don't know jazz. The rap shout out to jazz. I don't. But I would have disrespected the out of jazz for 250.

[Dan]

That. That's. That's a misogynist Dr. Dream. I'm getting paid.

[Ty]

And I would have sold the. Out that pay per view. I would have been at the. At the. At the weigh in. The way in the face off. At the face off. Going crazy on jazz. I would have been going crazy. I'd have started making jazz thing. I got a sex table holding like, yo, y' all want me to play it now? I'd have had a phone. Like, do y' all want me to? I would have fucked her whole momentum up going. Cause she would have really thought I had some shit on my phone. I'm like, jazz, if I play this, this battle is over also. Cause every girl knows some nigga got a sex tape with them that they like, I hope that nigga never put that on out.

[Dan]

Which also is funny. Just thinking about a weigh in.

[Ty]

Yeah, the face off.

[Dan]

No, but like, they gotta weigh in. And Lux is like, looks like your hips could use a breather. Making a woman do a weigh in.

[Ty]

Before a battle would n. I feel Lux though, man, stay away from that. I always thought that was kind of weird. So. Yeah, I understand. Lux Nah.

[Dan]

Out of all the they've even said about men, I don't think it's that crazy to just go battle a woman.

[Ty]

But that's crazy. I don't know.

[Dan]

The Saudis are going to buy your bro, so it'll get crazy.

[Ty]

They have no choice, cuz we know.

[Dan]

What they do to women.

[Ty]

Imagine if that was part of battling. Like you don't even know who you're about to battle. You just got to show up.

[Dan]

You mean how like it used to.

[Ty]

Be N. You always knew who you was battling?

[Dan]

No, but like in the park or like whatever, whatever.

[Ty]

Oh no, you talking about if I just go to the park wanting to battle anybody. Yeah, you don't talk about if you knew tomorrow I got a battle. Like you knew who you was going to battle tomorrow.

[Dan]

Yeah, of course.

[Ty]

Yeah, but I'm saying, like just had the Saudis pull up the curtain and Jazz is standing there.

[Dan]

Yo, pull up the curtain. It's.

[Ty]

Yeah, like the curtain go up on the stage and Jazz the rapper standing there. You gotta, you gotta go out.

[Dan]

I mean, I battle rap. I'm not saying it's getting stale, but I like that they've been trying to switch things up. And I think more male female battles could be cool. I didn't like the two man thing, but I. I get it. It was just trying to. Yeah, there's only so many times you could just have two people on stage insulting each other and saying they carry guns. Like you gotta switch, switch things up at some point. But I mean, I don't know. I think Jazz should just put out her three rounds. Like she should just go to Times.

[Ty]

Square and rap him about Lux. Yeah, no, don't do that. You definitely don't want to do that.

[Dan]

No, wake them up.

[Stephanie]

Why? Why Josh?

[Dan]

I was just curious.

[Stephanie]

Josh, while he's producing, decided to go on Chat GBT and to write a disrespectful but clever battle rap verse aimed at Maul from Rory and Maul with punchlines. Wordplay. Okay. Mall think he the cool one, Mr. Low Key Fly. But he the background noise, the ad lib got. Wait, hold on. Okay, hold on.

[Ty]

Wait.

[Stephanie]

Before I read this, Ma did not volunteer to get roasted. So let's. We'll cut that out.

[Ty]

Like, I mean, you know, I could rap too though. So I'm saying I ain't writing chat gbt. Wrote it. I go at chat gbt. You talking about? For 250, I battle chat GPT.

[Stephanie]

I'm gonna need a little bit higher for chat GPT.

[Ty]

Like I'll unplug you. 5G. Stop working. You talking about Chad? GBT rap you right up.

[Dan]

Yo, starting the battle just by unplugging would be the funniest.

[Ty]

Unplug the modem. None of this working. You can't get on. Chat GBT out of here.

[Dan]

All right, well, let's. Let's. Let's do that. I mean, after I smoked Damaris in our Pusha Turkey T battle.

[Stephanie]

Most people said that I won, right?

[Dan]

Said that I won.

[Stephanie]

Okay? That's cuz Pusha knows you. I don't know him. We'll have a rapport.

[Ty]

That is funny. Y. That's because he knows you.

[Stephanie]

We don't really have a strong rapport.

[Ty]

Yo, if Damaris knew we don't have a strong rapport. If Damaris knew Pusher, he would say she won.

[Dan]

He for sure.

[Stephanie]

He for show. Up, up, Josh. You know what?

[Ty]

That's funny, because if. If. If Pusha felt like Damaris one, he could have just sold Rory like, yo, she smoked you. Like, he could have just.

[Stephanie]

He didn't hear the whole thing. He saw a piece of the clip. He didn't see the whole thing. He didn't really see how he ain't.

[Ty]

Get to all the bars. He only got.

[Dan]

He saw the entire thing.

[Ty]

So that's over his head. Honestly, some of them went over. Push his head. That's what's up.

[Dan]

Due to therapy, I've gotten much better. Still doing it and not. Yeah, still. Still doing that thing. Oh, my God. Better health. 20 off new roaring mall. I've gotten much better at not holding on to things, but I am telling you, for the rest of my life, I am going to hold on that I smoked Damaris in that Pusha T battle, and I'm still upset that you guys didn't even understand how deep my.

[Stephanie]

Bars were in that you keep saying smoked. Even if someone wasn't even close, even if someone was to think that you won. You did not smoke me in no way, shape, or form.

[Ty]

Y' all should just do it again.

[Dan]

Why? Why I already.

[Ty]

Cause it's like it's at a stalemate. It's like I don't even know who won no more. I don't even remember the bars.

[Stephanie]

The YouTube comments said I won, and the YouTube comments hate me. They. They. They wanted to say you won.

[Ty]

Why you said they hate you.

[Stephanie]

They had. Oh, God. Go read them one day when you have the free time.

[Ty]

Why they. No, but why they hate you?

[Stephanie]

Because there's certain. Certain platforms are just more misogynistic than others.

[Ty]

Who. Who.

[Dan]

Who did. Did Mike fight the night that Pac died? He knocked him out in 30 seconds. Did they ever get a rematch? No. Why would Mike ever take a rematch when you knock somebody out in the first five seconds of a fight?

[Ty]

I don't know if you knocked the Maris out, though.

[Stephanie]

He did.

[Dan]

It wasn't even close.

[Ty]

Close. I don't know, bro.

[Stephanie]

I beat Rory and everything. And he's really trying to hold on to this. And the only reason why he's able to hold on to this is because Pusha himself said that he won. That's the only reason why.

[Ty]

That's only child syndrome. We know that.

[Stephanie]

Ah, makes sense.

[Ty]

He's used to throwing the tennis balls his bedroom wall by itself.

[Dan]

Look at the. The things you guys have to go to to discredit me. I don't have the same rapport with Pusha. You're an only child. Like, look at what you guys have to go through.

[Ty]

No, I'm just trying to do it. I'm just giving her just ammo for her next. Next balls. That's all. Just. Right. Right from the perspective of the.

[Dan]

The.

[Ty]

The o. Right from the perspective of the sibling he always wanted. Oh, if you go there, Baby D, you might uncover some trauma. You might make this cry.

[Dan]

I'm getting a little misty now.

[Stephanie]

Right from the. I'mma right from the perspective.

[Ty]

Right from the perspective of the sibling he always wanted.

[Dan]

Nah.

[Stephanie]

From the teddy bear in his room.

[Ty]

In his room. Or his posters. That was always. He always talked to his posters. Yeah. Oh, r. From the. The perspective of Terrell Davis.

[Dan]

I never. I never talk to my posters.

[Ty]

Okay.

[Dan]

I never talk to my posters.

[Ty]

Hey, Baby D. If you ride from the Terrell Davis perspective and with his jersey. He not coming out the round. He not coming out the round, baby. Did he finished? I'm letting you know now. He done. He cooked.

[Dan]

Was one of the greatest running backs of that time.

[Ty]

Yo.

[Dan]

You think that is so funny? You think I think I was rapping to my slam magazine posters.

[Ty]

Oh, my God.

[Dan]

Peace. And Vince Carter.

[Ty]

Holy.

[Dan]

I definitely had the Vince Carter one for sure. Do that. Yeah. Okay, cool. I'll cry in the car, but I'm gonna get so vengeful that I'm gonna find her real sibling and do some kiss and style.

[Ty]

You gonna bring her sister out 100%.

[Stephanie]

See you. See you go over there with my sisters. Now I gotta talk. From the perspective of that. That touched you. See, now I'm wrong.

[Ty]

Oh, Father o', Malley, we was at.

[Dan]

Yo.

[Ty]

Yo, Baby D, go there. You out of here. Yo, what was.

[Dan]

Nah, what was the rally. Tell me more.

[Ty]

And why were y' all there together?

[Dan]

Yo, getting. Getting touched at a public rally is crazy.

[Ty]

Oh, shit. Yo, y' all are sick, man. Man, oh, my God.

[Stephanie]

Yeah, let's do it.

[Ty]

I'm paying for that. I'm. Damaris got balls for you. I know she writing some. She got balls for you. She waiting. She is waiting for you.

[Dan]

If. If y' all don't cancel Damaris for rapping from the position of a pedophile, I'm canceling her. That would be the sickest perspective of all time. Not even Kendrick went there.

[Stephanie]

No, no.

[Ty]

Yo, yo, nah.

[Dan]

You gotta question somebody that rats from the point of view. Jordan, Luke is not even doing that.

[Ty]

Yo, that is craziness when you think about it.

[Dan]

Okay, but if you were to rap from that perspective, would you at least compliment me? Like, they found me attractive. That's why.

[Ty]

Nah, baby, you gotta rap from the perspective of the robe that he wore when he had no clothes on. The.

[Stephanie]

All right, yo, the choir boy. I caught y', all, but he kept it quiet.

[Ty]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. He was happy it wasn't him. Yeah.

[Stephanie]

You.

[Dan]

You know how crazy we have to stop. How crazy it was when I found out that when you get communion, you didn't need to stick out your tongue. You.

[Ty]

You can just.

[Dan]

You can just go like this.

[Stephanie]

All right? You literally just do this. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Stop.

[Dan]

They told me he wasn't allowed to touch Christ.

[Stephanie]

Let's calm down.

[Ty]

Yo, yo, who was that that told the boy to stick out tongue? That was a Dolly Lama.

[Dan]

It was one of. Yeah, one of them.

[Ty]

He forgot the cameras was rolling. He forgot where he was at. We said, give me your tongue. Stick out What? He said that next little boy to do.

[Dan]

No, but honestly, your voice, not for kids, but for everybody. At one point, like, if you see people probably in their 80s that are still at your Catholic church, some of them will stick their tongue out.

[Ty]

They feed you the.

[Dan]

Like, some people.

[Ty]

Cracker.

[Dan]

So, yeah, some people. People this generation, yeah, we do this. But the older generation, adults, kids, you stuck your tongue out. Like, you weren't allowed to touch. Unless you were the priest blessing the body of Christ. You had to stick your tongue out. And then a priest with no gloves, all 100 people would just be throwing. Throwing the body of Christ on everyone's tongue.

[Ty]

It's funny, because I remember seeing that as a little kid and feeling like that was odd. Like, I remember those moments Like. Like just putting something in your mouth. Like, I just never. I always felt like that was a little weird. Like. Yeah, like, feeding me nothing. Like, what the is that?

[Dan]

No, it's. It's nuts.

[Ty]

Yo, did y' all ever see that video of the little. The black kid that found. He was in the church and he found the communion and the grape juices, and he crawled under the thing and his father found him and he was under there, but he went through about 40 of them shits. Y' all never saw that video? No.

[Dan]

That's hilarious.

[Ty]

Oh, my. That is one of the funniest videos I've ever seen. Yo, this little. Was under there. All them little cup. It was like 40 of them empty, throwing them.

[Dan]

All right, well, then that kid is a Doberman. Because the body of Christ is like a saltine. You know how hard it is to chew the body of Christ. Like, eating that many bodies of Christ is.

[Ty]

No, no, it was just the grape juice.

[Dan]

Oh, okay. I thought it was. He was eating all the community.

[Ty]

No, no, no. It was just the grape juice.

[Dan]

Oh, that's hilarious. All right, well, Maul finds that video. Do we have voicemail?

[Ty]

You've got mail.

[Dan]

These are sponsored by Boost. Of course. Everyone that called in on Patreon was using a Boost mobile phone. And they did it for only 25amonth, unlimited data, so they could continue to send us voicemails.

[Stephanie]

I had, like, a quick kind of question. So I'm a laid back type of girl in a sense. If you do me wrong or if we end, I don't. I don't break stuff. I don't cuss you out. I don't. I just leave. I leave and I just, like, boss up because I feel like I. That's what. That's just the best way I could make you feel like you. You messed up, you gonna miss this. But, like, talk to my guy friends. I realized that men actually like when girls are a bit crazy. Like, I did not realize this, but when I hear what girls be doing to them and they be going for it. Like, look, going through the phones, cussing them out, and they still entertain and, like, still, like, low key sometimes miss the girl. And some of my girlfriends are also crazy and they say, like, oh, yeah, it's not like he gonna leave me and stuff like that. And I'm like, like, yo, should I mind y'?

[Ty]

All?

[Stephanie]

I'm also Haitian, so for me not to be crazy is wild. Like, I promise y', all, I'm actually really calm. I appreciate the self awareness with Warrior Mall. Are y' all more enticed with the, like, spicier girls? Do you like it when a girl can kind of, like, show you, like. Oh, and Damaris, do you see a difference when you leave men? Like, how you leave them? If you leave them quietly or if you, like, you know, cuss them out, like, they kind of still try hard, try harder for you, I guess. Let me know. Also, I made y' all that Young Boy playlist. Thank you, Ma, for responding. I hope you. I hope you actually listen to it, because I made it. Rory, you never opened my dm, but it's okay. Still love y'. All.

[Ty]

Oh, okay. I know.

[Dan]

It's because I'm a good Christian man.

[Ty]

So she made this young lady. She made me a. Well made. She obviously sent it to you, too. NBA Young Boy playlist about his best songs. Yeah, she sent it to me.

[Dan]

It's called. So, yeah, Millie sent me after that segment and sent me some Young boy joints that were really good. Yeah. And once. Once Millie's had the co sign, I was like, all right, I'll. I'll give Young Boy a real chance.

[Ty]

No, I mean, I always knew he was talented. I just never got into his music like that.

[Dan]

I feel like if any way I answer this, Damaris is gonna just laugh at me and call me.

[Stephanie]

Yo, I wasn't even gonna. Like, when she started talking, I said I wasn't gonna say nothing. I'm a let you lie. Go ahead.

[Ty]

I'mma let you lie.

[Dan]

I. I'm cool on that. Now.

[Stephanie]

Now. Okay. See, he lying. Mean thing.

[Ty]

He's lying.

[Stephanie]

I know.

[Ty]

Stop clapping for that.

[Dan]

You can't clap for a liar.

[Ty]

He's lying.

[Stephanie]

Stop clapping.

[Ty]

He ain't cool on that. He likes that. You like seasoning on your food? You like hot sauce? You like. That's, you know, like the thrill. You like the excitement. You like the passion. That's what you like. Like the passion. She really loves me. She cares because she broke all my stuff.

[Dan]

No, I don't think that at all.

[Ty]

I mean, she does. She loves me.

[Dan]

I think you can fall into a bad hole of being addicted to chaos that you think is love. I think that can happen.

[Ty]

You can fall into a bad hole addicted to chaos that you think is love.

[Dan]

Yeah. Yes, I. I think. Yeah.

[Ty]

Some people don't know what a healthy relationship is.

[Dan]

Yeah. I think in, you know, if you go to certain rallies as a kid, sometimes you equate love to chaos. You think a functioning relationship is one that is dysfunctional. So. Yeah. Was there A time where that was definitely a part of my life. And I'm not saying it's completely gone. You know, you're recovering day to day, passionate, still doing my 12 steps. I'm maybe on the second step, but we're getting to the 12. Yeah.

[Ty]

Right. Day by day. Yeah.

[Dan]

But not even like when we all used to joke around of like, yo, crazy chicks got the best. Even if that is true sometimes, like, it's just not worth that. Like once you get old and exhausted.

[Ty]

I, I never understood.

[Dan]

I can't keep up with insanity. Like, I just don't have it in me. Was never part of where maybe in a bad way it would drive me at one point and keep me moving. Now it, it's, I'm, I'm too exhausted. Yeah, I don't, I don't think it's cute. I don't think it's passion. I don't think any. I just think it's an awful way to be with somebody is to be the crazy human being on both sides.

[Ty]

Yeah. You got to know. And you know, it takes. Because in my dating history, I've definitely was in dating women that I realized like, oh, you don't, you don't know what a non toxic relationship.

[Dan]

I mean, you dated an Italian woman, so.

[Ty]

Yes, I did.

[Dan]

So.

[Ty]

And you know, you got to realize, you just, you don't know what a, a healthy relationship is. You don't, you don't, you don't respond well to a healthy relationship. You're used to chaos and you're used to arguing and fighting and things like that. Like I'm just, I'm the complete opposite.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Ty]

Once I see crazy shit and you start yelling or talking to me a certain way and it's just like, oh, nah. Because I, no matter what, I'm in a situation where I'm going to lose.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Ty]

So I just get out of it immediately. Like, I'm cool, I'm not, I'm not dealing. And you got to know when to walk away too. Like, you know what? She's not, she's not used to, she's not used to the type of relationship that I'm used to or that I want. I don't like noise, chaos, I don't like arguing. You're going to have disagreements. You're not going to always see eye to eye. We understand that. But I'm talking about the disrespectful.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Ty]

Energy, you know, things like that. Like when it's to that level, just get out of that because it's not going. It's not going good.

[Dan]

And I'm not saying people shouldn't be accountable for their actions at all. But insane people bring the absolute worst out of you. They will, they will. They want you to place.

[Ty]

Meet that energy that you will.

[Dan]

You will get there. Like who you surround yourself with, not just with friendship, but also in relationships is who you become like.

[Stephanie]

So I also. You guys are right.

[Ty]

But she wanted to know how you leave.

[Stephanie]

I'll tell her in a second. But I do want to clarify what she's. What she's saying because she's not just saying women who just want toxicity and are crazy. That's not what she's talking about. She's talking about when someone does you wrong. Your reaction to that. Because she says, when somebody does me wrong or whatever, I'm just. Or I'm ready to break up, I just leave. Instead of the reaction of the crazy and burning his stuff and doing all of this because he did something wrong, I think that that is because people who just don't want peace in a relationship are completely different from people where you fuck up and then it's. I turn into a different person. I just think that those are two different scenarios.

[Dan]

Yeah, no, no, for sure. And I mean, her overall question is what exactly? Because I know we just went on a tangent about just being.

[Stephanie]

Her overall question is, do you guys prefer for women to fight for you and do all of that crazy shit when she's leaving or to just leave peacefully?

[Ty]

Fight for me when she's leaving.

[Stephanie]

Leaving basically. Like. Or fight for me when I leave you? Like, do you. Are you turned on by women acting crazy when you up.

[Ty]

No, no.

[Stephanie]

Okay. That's what she's asking you.

[Ty]

I'm not turned on. Turned on. Turned on by crazy at all.

[Stephanie]

Okay.

[Ty]

That actually turns me off. That's a complete turn off. When I see a woman acting like that and just going crazy, it's like, oh, no. Like, because, you know, first of all, I know it's not me. It's something else deep trauma somewhere that's now just showing itself. And it's just like, that has nothing to do with me because I'm not. I'm not me. I'm speaking on me. I'm not talking about people in general me. I'm not doing anything in my relationship with a woman that would require her to act crazy and do some shit like that. So that's why if she starts doing that, it's like, whoa, like, what the fuck? Like, you trippin.

[Stephanie]

Yeah, yeah, that makes sense. But I think she's talking in reference of like you catch a nigga cheating.

[Ty]

And yeah, oh, nah, nah. If you catch your partner cheating and you know, I think that having a reaction that's deemed to be crazy and wild and I mean I think that that's warranted somebody, somebody feels like they've been lied to, manipulated, hurt, you know, things like that. So that's most people's reaction is to just do something erratic and out of control. But not everybody is emotionally intelligent to handle situations like that of you know, finding out that damn, she's cheating on me or he's cheating on me. Like, you know, it just depends on the person. But acting crazy for me has never been a turn on.

[Dan]

Well, I mean I don't think think to. To that scenario. If you find out somebody who you thought was being truthful with you deceived you, I don't think you're crazy. If you have an emotional immediate erratic.

[Ty]

I don't think that's crazy thing.

[Dan]

I wouldn't say it's a turn on.

[Ty]

Yeah, it's not.

[Dan]

Yeah, I wouldn't like get hard. But also, also the opposite. I feel like in that scenario with human nature, if you do somebody wrong in that way and then they freak out and still stay, I think that probably would. The average person would continue to push that boundary because they know you're going to stay. Whereas somebody that just quietly leaves you lost that person. Like now you have to really be accountable for your actions. Like what you did has ruined this relationship. This person just moved the on that's gonna. If you really want to piss somebody off, that's gonna them over more than you freaking the out and then staying.

[Ty]

We had this conversation. You are you a closure guy? You need closure.

[Dan]

Not anymore.

[Ty]

You need closure.

[Stephanie]

It would depend on the situation.

[Dan]

Yeah, I used to definitely need it. I don't need it anymore.

[Stephanie]

It depends on the situation. I don't need it. But what I like it. It would depend on the situation.

[Dan]

In retrospect. Anytime I try to get closure, there was nothing. Nothing. Nothing closed in. Like that's just some that you got to deal with on your own.

[Ty]

Nothing closed. Everything was over.

[Dan]

Like there was no conversation where anyone left feeling better. And this was like, you know what? This chapter's closed.

[Ty]

Yeah, like that, that was great.

[Dan]

Closure only comes within yourself and yeah, nobody else can give you closure.

[Ty]

Yeah.

[Dan]

I think conversations of like, hey, I would just like to finally know the truth of all this so I can go find closure myself maybe is helpful but even that what are you gonna do with that information, man? Sometimes it's better to just not even know everything. Just move the on.

[Ty]

It's the age gap between us, but y' all gonna get to that point where y' all just. You just don't give a fuck no more. You just wanna just. Bye. Like, it literally gets to that. Like, you be like, yo, I don't. Bye. We don't need to talk about it. We don't need close. Bye. That simple. Sometimes like it. And again, it takes, you know, experience and years again. But when you're secure and know who you are and know that the role that you played in a relationship and, you know, know that I. That I didn't this up, I tried everything I could. When you know that you've tried every, you know, angle and everything to help and make it work, you just get to a point where you just, like, you know, enjoy life. Bye. Yeah, it doesn't need to be no more than that. It ain't no crying. It is none of that. Like, it's just like, all right, bye.

[Dan]

Yeah, but that. That also comes from a place of somebody that did do everything that they could did their part. A lot of people don't. So that's why lingers. Because now they're just trying to find excuses to make themselves feel better when their shortcomings is the reason why something split.

[Ty]

Right.

[Dan]

Yeah. Not everyone puts in all the effort that they could on certain things. And yeah. So they. They can't find any closure in it because they know subconsciously they. This Ocean up like 100. So, yeah, that's. That's a rare, rare thing, I think these days.

[Stephanie]

But to answer. To answer her question, because she did ask me to answer your question. Stay. Continue doing what you're doing. The reason why men like that crazy is because it's an ego boost. They're insecure and they like the ego boost of the. Oh, my gosh, she's crazy over me. She's this, she's that. That's why they keep going back. They. Because they like the ego boost. It's the ego. It's a boost of their ego. So just keep leaving quietly, please. Like, I've made that mistake of leaving loudly. It does nothing. It's just. It literally just pumps heads up. Like, look at this. Look at. Look at this dummy. I got like, nope, never again.

[Ty]

She crashing out.

[Stephanie]

Yeah, she crashing out.

[Ty]

Over.

[Dan]

Is that never you feel about as someone that has admitted that they've had issues with their ego? Anytime a woman has done wild, like Destroyed something. I've never. My ego didn't feel better because.

[Stephanie]

Because I never was like.

[Dan]

I never was like, damn on the men.

[Stephanie]

But here. But see, this is the thing. Maybe not with you, but with some men. Some men don't take the. That type of girl seriously. The girl that's gonna go crazy over them. They don't. They'll be in a situationship with them for years just to get their reaction. Like it's a different type of like, insecure. So maybe not with you. That might not apply to you, but I've encountered men. I've seen my friends encounter men who will be and take serious. The calm girl that. That's serious about her shit and that respects herself, but they'll keep that one around for the ego boost. They'll keep the one that's going to crash out and go crazy. But they're. The one that they take serious is the more peaceful one. But again, that doesn't apply to everybody.

[Ty]

Yeah.

[Dan]

I don't know. I just feel like the dur. Like just seeing the amount of text bubbles and being destroyed. I. I'm cool.

[Ty]

Cool.

[Dan]

And all that.

[Ty]

That away from me.

[Dan]

I'm not not reading that paragraph. I. I love.

[Stephanie]

They don't read the paragraphs, ladies. They don't read the paragraphs. They don't read the paragraph. Paragraphs. They don't read the paragraphs. Stop sending them.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Stephanie]

Keep your. Keep your self worth, please. They don't read them.

[Dan]

And like when you destroy. When you destroy in the place I was renting. Yeah. I may lose my security deposit is what it is. Once you have a home. Nah, don't. No. All right, well, I think that's probably a good cue to get the out of here.

[Ty]

Listen, man, I. I didn't mean to. You know, we don't want to.

[Dan]

No, no, no, no.

[Ty]

I mean, listen, man, you know, my house is intact. No, I get it. I get it. Your house is. House is not a home if there's no one there.

[Dan]

But if you do date the crazy chick and do want to burn your own house down for insurance money, can always blame it on her.

[Ty]

There you go. All right. Well, it's good seeing you guys. Talk to you guys in a few days.

[Dan]

Yes, absolutely.

[Ty]

Everybody be safe. Everybody be blessed. And we'll see y' all soon. Talk to y' all soon. I'm. That he's just Ginger. Peace, no worry.

[Stephanie]

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