Episode 413 | Pink Timbs

Summary

New Rory & MAL – Episode 413 | Pink Timbs

Date: October 10, 2025
Podcast: New Rory & MAL
Hosts: Rory, Mal, Baby D

Episode Overview

This episode of "New Rory & MAL" dives into new stories and hot takes, blending laughs, debates, and personal anecdotes. The crew discusses everything from legendary rap label showdowns (Cash Money vs. No Limit), culture clashes, nostalgia, AI in music, celebrity news, and Rolling Stone’s questionable “250 Greatest Songs of the 21st Century.” They wrap the show with hilarious listener advice and musings about love, rap beefs, and the secret history behind “Ass Out, Pink Timbs.”

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Opening Vibes: Friendship & Podcast Boundaries

• [02:19]–[03:42] The episode kicks off with the team joking about topics they “can’t have on air,” separating show content from real-life friendship drama.
• Laughs around compliments turn into pasta metaphors and vegan food slander:
  • “I had vegan lasagna once. Top 10 worst thing I ever had in my life.” – Baby D [03:20]
• They riff on sponsorships, faux foot pics, and the perks of chilly weather.

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2. Hit-Boy & Alchemist Collab — Producer/Rappers & “Goldfish”

• [04:40]–[05:56] Baby D discusses bumping into Hit-Boy and Alchemist, praising their latest project:
  • “You can’t call them producer-rappers anymore… This feels like a rapper’s album. They just happen to be able to make great beats.” – Baby D [05:02]
• Plug for their film trailer and inside jokes about internet ads.

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3. LeBron Retirement Rumors & Hennessy Ads

• [06:35]–[11:29]
• The crew jokes about LeBron possibly retiring — only to drop a Hennessy ad instead.
  • “We all thought LeBron was making… his decision to retire… But nope, just selling liquor.” – Baby D [07:19]
  • “You think LVMH was struggling that much they were like, ‘Damn, we lost Palooza’?” – Baby D [07:54]
• Discussion on how LeBron might actually announce retirement and how he's playing the long game to share the court with both sons.
  • “I felt he was waiting for Bronny so he could be the first father-son, you know, players in the NBA. And we got that.” – Mall [11:31]

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4. Versus Returns: Cash Money vs. No Limit

• [14:07]–[22:45]
• Anticipation and doubt for the upcoming Versus at ComplexCon:
  • “This could either be the greatest moment in hip hop or one of the worst. No in between.” – Baby D [14:52]
  • “Who’s still in communication? Who still has a relationship with who?” – Mall [15:19]
  • Snoop on No Limit? Lil Wayne/Drake/Nicki for Cash Money? Mystikal in jail? Romeo’s legacy? Many unknowns and debates about who will perform.
  • “If you just like, rival the best in New York versus the best somewhere else, it’s not going to be that far off anymore… You can literally roller skate with a gay and get a good slice in any city in America now, where that was strictly just a West Village thing.” – Baby D [28:22–28:44]

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5. Food, Cities, & Pizza Wars

• [27:19]–[29:14]
• Jokes about NYC losing its exclusive claim to the best pizza and food.
  • “You can get good pizza almost anywhere now.” – Baby D [28:01]
  • “Y’all say that until you go somewhere, order pizza and be like, ‘This is ass.’” – Mall [28:08]
• “New York Fried Chicken” becomes a punchline for gentrified food branding.

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6. Tank, R&B, & Gay Audiences

• [23:43]–[29:35]
• Wild digression about Tank performing at LGBTQ events and the notoriety of being “horny,” with banter about cities with the biggest gay populations.
  • “Nobody’s hornier than men. So imagine gay men.” – Mall [24:20]
  • “New York… We lost hip-hop, we lost the best restaurants, and we lost the gays.” – Baby D [27:19]

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7. Rolling Stone’s “250 Greatest Songs” List Debate

• [37:09]–[47:02]
• Hosts riff on the new Rolling Stone list, fiercely challenging the song placements:
  • “Missy Elliott ‘Get Your Freak On’... That’s the greatest song of the 21st century?… That’s not even Missy’s number one song.” – Mall [37:39, 38:04]
  • “Britney Spears ‘Toxic’… better than all them songs that’s before it.” – Rory [38:41]
  • “If you just put the songs in a hat and pick them, that's what this list is.” – Mall [41:19]
• They voice their favorites, what should be ranked higher, and memorable songs that shaped an era.

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8. Nostalgia & Childhood Mischief: “Ass Out, Pink Timbs”

• [47:17]–[51:47]
• The infamous “ass out, pink Timbs” verse is revealed as Baby D’s childhood “Suck It Or Not” freestyle, which becomes a running joke.
  • “Ass out, Pink Timbs. That’s your red rose, white ceiling.” – Mall [49:20]
  • “A 10-year-old wrote that.” – Mall [50:41]
• Discussion touches on exposure to explicit music, early internet, and generational divides.

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9. AI in Music: Mariah Carey’s Voice Debate

• [67:28]–[73:37]
• Intense debate whether Mariah Carey’s new album uses AI-augmented vocals.
  • “It doesn’t feel like Mariahs real vocals… It feels like they just used her voice.” – Mall [69:13]
  • “If we can use her voice to help her own career—not some bot or some random person—I think AI is acceptable.” – Baby D [71:54]
• Broader commentary on AI’s role in legacy music and authenticity.

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10. Listener Letters: Long-Distance (Unrequited?) Love

• [93:43]–[104:02]
• Listener “Thomas” calls in torn about falling for his best friend, with heartfelt and funny debate by the crew:
  • “Thomas, go ahead and get your wife, man. Y’all love each other… Don’t let the distance—” – Mall [97:35]
  • “That girl don’t like you. Don’t listen to Maul.” – Baby D [97:47]
  • “If she wanted that n****, she would be with that n**** right now.” – Rory [98:27]
• They decide to bring Thomas back for a deeper “Zoom room” session to unpack the story.

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11. Pop Culture & Upcoming Events

• JLo and Ben Affleck: Block spinning jokes, “healthiest relationship” theory [84:09–87:03]
• Super Bowl Halftime speculation: Who will Bad Bunny bring out? Will it get political? [87:44–92:01]
• Soulja Boy’s new album/Baby D’s ancient Twitter beef: “Shut up — all right, stream Swag 7…” [74:10–78:08]
• Shoutouts to Vince Staples’ new show (“The Vince Staples Show” Season 2) [52:09–53:18]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “[Hit-Boy and Alchemist]…you can’t call them producer-rappers anymore…feels like a rapper’s album.” – Baby D [05:02]
• “We all thought that LeBron was making…his decision to retire and this would be his last year. But nope, just selling liquor.” – Baby D [07:19]
• “This could either be the greatest moment in hip hop or one of the worst. No in between.” – Baby D [14:52]
• “Ass out Pink Timbs. That’s your red rose, white ceiling.” – Mall [49:20]
• “Nobody’s hornier than men. So imagine gay men.” – Mall [24:20]
• “If we can use her [Mariah’s] voice to help her own career – not some bot or random person – I think AI is acceptable.” – Baby D [71:54]
• “If she wanted that n****, she would be with that n**** right now.” – Rory [98:27]

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Timestamps for Important Segments

| Timestamp | Segment/Topic | |---------------|----------------------------------------------------| | 02:19–03:42 | Friendship, podcast boundaries, vegan lasagna | | 04:40–05:56 | Hit-Boy & Alchemist new project | | 06:35–11:29 | LeBron, Hennessy ads, retirement theories | | 14:07–22:45 | Cash Money vs. No Limit Versus debate | | 23:43–29:35 | Tank R&B, LGBTQ events, city culture jokes | | 27:19–29:14 | NYC’s food reputation, pizza wars | | 37:09–47:02 | Rolling Stone 250 Songs debate | | 47:17–51:47 | “Ass out, Pink Timbs” nostalgia & grown-up rap | | 67:28–73:37 | AI in music, Mariah Carey’s voice | | 93:43–104:02 | Listener letter: long-distance love struggle |

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Tone & Format

• Language is playful, rapid-fire, at times irreverent, packed with inside jokes, slanguage, and NYC cultural touches.
• The energy is conversational; hosts drop hot takes freely, often clowning each other but pulling back for thoughtful analysis when needed.

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For the Uninitiated

This episode is a textbook example of why “New Rory & MAL” is beloved: the show pairs music and pop culture analysis with unpredictable tangents, deadpan humor, and honest listener advice. If you missed the episode, start with the debates about the Rolling Stone song list and the “Ass out, Pink Timbs” saga for peak entertainment. Don’t miss Thomas’s dramatic listener letter or the genuinely insightful AI-in-music debate.

Transcript

[Rory Malls]

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[Baby D]

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[Mall]

Don't laugh like that on the you know, I mean, because it's like why?

[Baby D]

Because some conversations I wish we could have on air, but some we just can't.

[Mall]

Why not though? Why we can't have some of those conversations on air? Is it because of our relationships with people? People might feel away friendships.

[Baby D]

It's not an industry, it's a Friendship thing. I want people thinking that, like, we can't say this, but, like, that's a. Yeah, that's real. Stay personal.

[Mall]

Yes.

[Baby D]

I'm gonna laugh at her when I see her.

[Mall]

Yes, me too.

[Baby D]

But I'm not gonna laugh with y' all on air about it.

[Mall]

Yes. No, but, Amy, you good? The curls, they look like. It's looking like a bowl of pasta over there.

[Rory Malls]

I'm trying to figure out if that's a compliment.

[Mall]

Yeah. You know how to. You know how the pasta salad looks with the.

[Baby D]

With the squiggly ones? You know, are you. Are you guys more of a. Like, linguini angel hair sealy? Which one is that again?

[Mall]

I don't know. I just heard Eddie Murphy say it one day.

[Baby D]

Bow ties.

[Mall]

I like spaghetti. Okay, Just give me spaghetti lasagna. That's it. From spaghetti lasagna.

[Baby D]

I had vegan lasagna once. Top. Top 10 worst thing I ever had my life.

[Rory Malls]

It was badly cooked. Vegan lasagna is, like, one of the easiest vegan food to make. Eggplant parmesan lasagna.

[Baby D]

Okay.

[Rory Malls]

Eggplant lasagna.

[Baby D]

I'll have to have it from somebody that could probably cook because it was. It was insane. Like, I would. I would have rather, like, chew.

[Mall]

Every time. People be like, yo, vegan food is nasty. I'm like, y' all just not eating the right vegan food. I get it. To understand.

[Baby D]

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[Mall]

By who?

[Baby D]

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[Rory Malls]

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[Baby D]

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[Mall]

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[Baby D]

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[Mall]

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[Baby D]

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[Rory Malls]

I want.

[Baby D]

How strong are you? Too strong.

[Mall]

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[Baby D]

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[Mall]

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[Rory Malls]

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[Baby D]

You're. Wait. Throwing $10 on that. Don't devalue my. My home girl there.

[Mall]

No, I'm saying for $10 a month, meaning if we get.

[Baby D]

If she gets me $10 a toe.

[Mall]

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[Baby D]

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[Mall]

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[Baby D]

You could send it from your bo. It's finally cold outside. You guys know I'm thrilled about that. But this week, I did stop by around the corner from the office and saw Hit Boy and Alchemist and listened.

[Mall]

To shout out to the guys.

[Baby D]

I'm not just saying this to say it because they've been on the show and those are guys.

[Mall]

But Hit Boy raps better than a lot of y'.

[Rory Malls]

All.

[Baby D]

So does Alchemist. This is by far the best both of them have ever rapped. Like, it's kind of just. You can't call them producer rappers anymore. And Al is getting personal on this. It's definitely much different than the first project. Like, this feels like a. A rapper's album. They just happen to be able to make great beats. Like they're rapping on that.

[Mall]

It's always good to see Al and. And Hit Boys doing. They doing their thing together and making music. Cuz those two. Two of my favorite producers, but also two of my favorite producer rappers.

[Baby D]

Yeah.

[Mall]

So no, for sure. Shout out to the guys. Goldfish available now.

[Baby D]

Yes. And they have a movie coming along with it as well, which I'm not sure when the movie comes out, but the trailer looks great. Dimaris, your eyes just perked up. Did you see something on the computer? You made a face. I know that face that you made. What bullshit.

[Mall]

Did you just see Brazzer's ad?

[Rory Malls]

No, not at all. Okay, are they free again this month?

[Mall]

Let me see. I can remember. Hey, Gunner. Yes, Brazzers is free this month.

[Rory Malls]

Really?

[Mall]

Yes.

[Baby D]

Okay, so I've clicked that ad before, and it wasn't free.

[Rory Malls]

Really?

[Baby D]

They ask you to, like, put your credit card information in?

[Mall]

No, that's.

[Baby D]

That's. That's how they get you.

[Mall]

No, that's when. When the free trial is up.

[Baby D]

No, I know. That's how they get you, though. Who's going to, like, you think I'm adding that to my calendar? Like, yo, on the 16th, you got to go cancel. I'm not doing that.

[Mall]

Go cancel your Braz ad, man.

[Baby D]

That's how they always get you with that Internet of any free. Even apps do that to you. Like, yo, just put in your. Yeah, cuz, we know you going to forget.

[Mall]

Yeah, yeah, we got you. We just going to let you know. Put it on autopay. No, no, no, no. Nothing's on autopay.

[Baby D]

Maybe you saw a hennessy hat.

[Rory Malls]

Y' all hate LeBron so much. What he do to you?

[Baby D]

I was actually gonna come in here.

[Mall]

And I feel like I hate LeBron.

[Baby D]

I'm one of the few people that thought it was hilarious. You don't hate LeBron. You just don't give him the credit. He's probably due.

[Mall]

When have I never given LeBron credit.

[Baby D]

I've seen you scream in Don Cannon's face about it.

[Mall]

Oh, when it comes to being better than Jordan.

[Baby D]

Yeah.

[Mall]

No, nobody's a better basketball player.

[Baby D]

But you, like, go extra, extra, extra in, like. Yeah, you start throwing in, like, maybe Antoine Walker's better than him. You just be throwing random.

[Mall]

You just said anything now. No, I've never done that. Only when it comes to LeBron being better than Jordan do I get involved in those. And I'm not. I don't even debate that anymore. I'll let people have it.

[Baby D]

Well, we all thought that LeBron was making or announcing, rather, his decision to retire, and this would be his last year. We'd get the whole fucking goodbye tour. LeBron wasn't retired.

[Mall]

He wasn't going to retire like that. He wouldn't do that again.

[Baby D]

We'd get his son starting at point guard for the last game. LeBron would try to score 100 against the Jazz or something when everyone was injured. Like, that's what we figured we were getting this year. But, nope, just selling liquor.

[Mall]

Vsop. Listen, man, y' all wanted to stop doing Henny Palooza. Somebody had to pick up the baton.

[Baby D]

That's what you think it was.

[Mall]

That's LeBron. LeBron picked the baton.

[Baby D]

You think LVMH was struggling that much that they were like, damn, we lost palooza.

[Mall]

Yeah, we gotta go get LeBron that we weren't partnered. We gotta go get LeBron James. LeBron James.

[Baby D]

The influx of Hennessy just on a Saturday in New York City has gone down. We gotta get LeBron now.

[Mall]

I mean, we talked about it when he had posted the trail, I guess, but I knew that LeBron would do that, because LeBron feels like that's one of the worst decisions he made, was making his decision the way he did to go to Miami.

[Baby D]

Yeah.

[Mall]

So it was no way that LeBron was going to announce his retirement like that. Like that. It was just no way. I thought it was maybe a Chipotle commercial. Choose between chicken or beef. Like that was the decision. You know what I'm saying? But, I mean, it's Hennessy makes sense, because LeBron has a tequila, doesn't he?

[Baby D]

I believe he still does.

[Mall]

Is it Los Lobo? Something like that?

[Baby D]

Something like that, yeah. Yeah, I believe he still has that.

[Mall]

So he's in the. He's in the. The spirits.

[Baby D]

Yeah.

[Mall]

Wine and spirits game.

[Baby D]

And I've had that skill before. It's actually pretty good. Do we think this is just a power move on the music side for LeBron. Maybe Nas wanted to bring him in on the A R tip, and they could do maybe the Henny compilation album presented by vsop. Maybe behind the scenes, you know, Nas has felt his career is just, you know, not in the best place. He kind of needs Braun to. To get there. So the incentive, Nas is like, yo, welcome to the Hennessy team.

[Mall]

Welcome to the NC family.

[Baby D]

Just give me a deluxe and we're good to go.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Baby D]

What? Advertising is hilarious. Are we going to drink more Hennessy now?

[Mall]

Well, I can know I don't drink Henny, but I'm sure. I'm sure some people like. You know what? Let me try that. LeBron Henny. Even though it's not LeBron Henny, it's the same Henny VSOP that they've had on the shelves for years.

[Baby D]

Barreled for 400 years.

[Mall]

Yeah, but it's, you know, it's LeBron's. He's. He's behind it now. So, you know, I mean.

[Baby D]

Well, I don't knock it. Get your money, LeBron, especially getting closer to retirement. I thought it was a very funny ad, and I feel like LeBron knows that no matter what he does, there's always going to be a large group of people that are going to hate everything he does. So lean into it and give him more ammo.

[Mall]

No, this is LeBron's. This is his time to have fun and kind of lean into things on the Internet that people hate him for and talk bad about him. Kind of lean into it to have fun. This is this. He probably has about two years left, I think, before he retires.

[Baby D]

All right, well, how do you think he'll do his retirement announcement?

[Mall]

I mean, it's going to be a big announcement, but I don't think it'll.

[Rory Malls]

Be.

[Mall]

Unexpected the way his announcement to Miami was. I think he'll allude to it. He'll probably say it before the season starts so he can get the victory lap. Deservedly so. He's one of the greatest players ever. He inspired a whole generation. A lot of these superstars or young stars that are in the league now grew up idolizing LeBron. So he deserves his victory lap. One last season. So I think he'll announce it before the start of whatever season he decides to retire. I think it'll be at the start of that, and he'll enjoy his victory lap. He deserves it.

[Baby D]

At what point do you want to just give? Not give up, obviously, but, I mean, your son is in the league now. Your other son is incredible. Probably Will go to the league as well. Like, I don't. I don't see the Lakers winning it in the next two years. Like, could be completely wrong. I just don't see it. Like, do you maybe just. Just retire?

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Yeah.

[Baby D]

But I think, I think spend some time at home.

[Mall]

Well, it was, you know, we talked about years 21. I think we talked about it years ago about, you know, I felt he was waiting for Bronny so he could be the first father son, you know, players in the NBA. And we got that. And I think it's realistic for him to wait. Wait on Bryce, too. I think that he's, you know, I know he has spoke about it. He said he's not. Cause he doesn't know what Bryce is going to do. How many years Bryce is going to play college? Yeah, I think that's cap. I think LeBron knows exactly how many years Bryce plans on playing one college and. But I think that, you know, he's waiting for Bryce. I mean, he got, he got in. You know, he was on the floor with Bronny in the NBA game. So I think he's like, listen, I'm still here, I'm still healthy. LeBron is still playing at a very, a very good level. He's still one of the best players in the league. Still very productive. So, I mean, listen, as long as his body holds up, see if Bryce, you know, he gets there and get on the court with both of your sons and just like, really make it a thing that I don't think we'll ever see again.

[Baby D]

I mean, listen, he may not have as many rings as Brady, but he has held on to his family by overstaying his welcome in the league. So, I mean, I. I respect it. It looks like a great home.

[Mall]

Was that a shot at Brady? Was that a Tom.

[Baby D]

I love Tom Brady. Okay.

[Mall]

No, no. You got a man. You called him a unit.

[Baby D]

Yeah, no, I. I wanted to start the new family. I was happy that they got that out of the way. Or were you? Love, Tom. I can't remember. Forgive me. How did Kobe announce his retirement?

[Mall]

He announced it at the beginning of the season.

[Baby D]

But was it a thing?

[Mall]

Yeah, like he got a whole victory lap.

[Baby D]

Well, no, no, no, of course I remember the season. Of course. But like, was it a sit down announcement? I only remember Jordan when he was retiring for the first time, it being a thing with the Wizards, it was just like, yes, it's probably over, but like, big announcement, retirement. Shit. Is it.

[Mall]

Well, he had the poem, right? He had the dead basketball Poem.

[Baby D]

Okay. Oh, Bron could do that with Chat GBT tomorrow.

[Mall]

Yeah. So, you know, he.

[Baby D]

Here.

[Mall]

Did he announce. Did the poem come out before the season? So the start of the season? Yeah.

[Baby D]

Okay, Wait, did he read it out loud? Like, was. I guess. Oh, yeah. Okay.

[Rory Malls]

I remember.

[Baby D]

I remember.

[Mall]

Players Tribune.

[Baby D]

All right. Well, Damn.

[Mall]

That was 10 years of.

[Baby D]

Yeah.

[Mall]

Wow.

[Baby D]

10 whole years without. Without Cobes. Well, yeah. I mean. Anyways, with that said, go ahead on LeBron for having fun for a change.

[Mall]

VSOP, though. VSOP if you bring any.

[Baby D]

We have. Versus is finally back. I was actually excited to read this. Yeah. At Complex Con, they will be doing cash money versus no limit. I was excited to walk in here today and debate this.

[Rory Malls]

Okay.

[Baby D]

I don't know if anyone else was, but this could be a really, really cool Versus.

[Mall]

And so it's gonna be a Complex Con.

[Baby D]

Yes. Live from Vegas. They need to do this in the. What's the thing?

[Mall]

The sphere.

[Baby D]

The Sphere. The Sphere would go crazy for this.

[Mall]

Wow. Okay, so wait, so cash money is gonna be there on stage?

[Baby D]

I'm also asking, is no limit gonna be there on stage?

[Rory Malls]

Yeah.

[Mall]

Like, I.

[Baby D]

This could either be the greatest moment in hip hop or one of the worst. No, in between.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Baby D]

Because I'm no gray area. It's just so much.

[Mall]

It's a lot of questions. I have a lot of questions.

[Baby D]

This might be scarier than Gucci and Jeezy.

[Mall]

Yeah. Because who's there for Cash money?

[Baby D]

I mean, like, who's I. They've done a hot boys reunion.

[Mall]

Okay. I think things have changed since then, though.

[Baby D]

I think they changed. Then they've changed, and they've done another year.

[Mall]

Yeah. So it's like, who's still in. Who's still in communication? Who still has a relationship with who? No limit. I mean, I. I don't know who. I'm sure Silk will be there. Master P will be there.

[Baby D]

Isn't Mystical?

[Mall]

And Mystical's locked up again.

[Baby D]

Oh, my God. All right. Master P, one of the greatest business men of all time. Why are you taking a Versus with your star player in jail?

[Mall]

Yeah. That's why. I don't understand. What I just don't get. Who would. I don't know. It's just a lot of. A lot of questions in the air. Who's gonna be there for both sides?

[Rory Malls]

They could probably still play his music, though, even if he's in jail.

[Mall]

No. No, they can't. They're not playing Mystical's music.

[Rory Malls]

Well, yeah.

[Baby D]

First era.

[Mall]

No limit, though, you know why Mystical locked up yeah.

[Rory Malls]

I'm gonna say, well, you know, what mistakes in jail for. Yeah, let's.

[Mall]

Why would they be playing his music.

[Baby D]

If you think that's gonna stop no Limit from playing mystical? I think you guys are strongly mistaken.

[Mall]

I think it is.

[Baby D]

Okay, so half the 90s is. Is gone for no Limit, like, because then you can't even.

[Mall]

That's why I'm sitting here looking so confused as to why this would be a thing. Because now it's like, okay, what. What are we doing on both sides of this? Cash money seems to be in a better, you know, standing with each other than no Limit is. I think, like, I just don't know. It's a lot of. When is this? October 25th. This October.

[Baby D]

This is tomorrow. This October.

[Rory Malls]

Funniest.

[Mall]

I don't know about this. I don't know about this one. This one might be this. This might be a mess.

[Baby D]

And, like, I mean, I think if you're going off the 90s and early 2000s, yes, it's a good versus, but I just. Cash money get young money.

[Rory Malls]

No, no, I mean, cash money is cash money.

[Mall]

All right, so let me ask you. All right, let me look you in your eyes, and you think Nikki is showing up to this?

[Baby D]

No.

[Mall]

You think Drake is showing up?

[Baby D]

No, I don't.

[Mall]

So what do we.

[Baby D]

You guys saying they're just gonna play mystical records? I can't play a drink?

[Mall]

No, I told you, they're not gonna play any mystical record.

[Rory Malls]

Well, they said they got Snoop Dogg.

[Mall]

I'm sure they have Snoop Vegas, Louisiana. Right there. Sending the jet. Snoop will be there. But that's what I'm saying. Okay, we got. That's one.

[Baby D]

All right, well, hold on, Brace.

[Mall]

Do we think Wayne will be there?

[Rory Malls]

Yes.

[Baby D]

Yeah, I don't. I don't. I don't think Birdman is doing this without Wayne co signing it.

[Mall]

Because that's Juvia be there, most likely.

[Baby D]

Juvia will definitely be there. And juvie's in, like, performing shape too.

[Mall]

BG would probably be there.

[Baby D]

I don't know what Birdman and BG's relationship is, right?

[Mall]

Oh, okay.

[Baby D]

Mannie Fresh will be there. Get some big time.

[Mall]

That's what I'm saying. It's just a lot of who's showing up to this. That's my only thing. It looks. Listen, the flyer looks great. When you put cash money versus no Limit, we know the history, we know the music. But then when you get down to now, Versus is a performance. It's not like just DJs playing records. So now if it's a performance. Who's performing?

[Baby D]

Yeah.

[Rory Malls]

Wait, y' all think Lil Romeo gonna be there?

[Mall]

For sure, Definitely.

[Baby D]

And first of all, Romeo got some joints. Let's not act like you're not throwing Lil Romeo in the mix.

[Rory Malls]

They're not acting. That's making.

[Baby D]

I'm talking to the listeners. Cause I know some people are probably giggling like Romeo didn't have some joints. But let me brace for I hate white hip hop fans opinions. I was not a big fan of Snoop's no Limit era. Like, I don't even know the records that are gonna get off in Vegas with Snoop on the no limit side.

[Mall]

Neither was I.

[Baby D]

Like, what is he really performing?

[Rory Malls]

They'll probably cheat and just play Snoop songs.

[Mall]

Nah, they can't do that.

[Baby D]

That's fucked up.

[Mall]

That's not. We not doing that.

[Baby D]

Then he's allowed to play Best I ever had.

[Mall]

Yeah, like, that's not no Limit. That's not. You can't do that. You gotta play the songs. Snoop it out on no Limit. You can't just play joints from doggy style. Like, you can't do that.

[Baby D]

Do we get Thug for at least the first tape? That was Cash Money. Legit Cash Money. Not like a sub label like Young Money.

[Mall]

You said Thug.

[Baby D]

Young Thug was signed to Cash Money at one point.

[Mall]

Word.

[Baby D]

Yeah. Him and Rich Homie Quan had the table. Birdman. Yeah. I mean, I don't know if it was a paperwork, but they were on Cash Money.

[Mall]

That's what I'm saying. So look where we at. We going down to Young Thug like Cash Money.

[Baby D]

But that's. But when you go further down the bench, that's what separates a team. Like, like I said, the 90s. No limit in Cash Money. That's a great matchup. But the further you go down it Cash Money and it's not even fucking close.

[Mall]

Yeah. I just don't know who's going to be there to perform, though.

[Baby D]

Like, shout out to Turk. I love Turk. Where's Turk?

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Baby D]

Like, are they flying him to Vegas?

[Mall]

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I don't know. It looks good, though. I mean, you know, we know. We know the history, we know the music, we know the, you know, that time, that era was, you know, one of the best, especially for the South. But performing now in 2025 with people not having relationships and not being on speaking terms and things like that, I just don't know what the performance of A versus looks like from these two labels.

[Baby D]

I would love a scripted series or a Proper doc about New Orleans at that exact time. Not just the Cash Money story, not just the no Limit story, but just New Orleans in that. That time. Because that. They're both. Their stories are absolutely insane.

[Mall]

Two of the most iconic rap labels ever.

[Baby D]

And then once you get in to the alleged criminal side of both those, it's like that's its own series in its fucking self.

[Mall]

Absolutely.

[Baby D]

But I mean, is so the shocker.

[Mall]

Going to be there? Absolutely.

[Rory Malls]

There's a article. Sorry to interrupt. About Turk is suing Cash Money over kicking him off the anniversary tour.

[Mall]

Okay. So he won't be there. So we got that answer. Turk will not. Not be at the Sphere.

[Baby D]

I think it'll be Manny Fresh, Birdman, and then Lil Wayne's only going to perform. Man, I miss my dogs. While none of his dogs are there.

[Mall]

You don't think Juvia will be there?

[Baby D]

Maybe.

[Mall]

You don't think BG will be there?

[Baby D]

I told you, the BG Birdman thing changes depending the Vlad interview.

[Mall]

Yeah, yeah. I don't know. It's like things like this is again, this because of so much personal Know things that's going on. It's. I just don't know what it. What it looks like on stage. I just don't know if it's.

[Baby D]

Think Monica will perform on Sea Murder's behalf?

[Mall]

No, I don't think. I don't think so.

[Baby D]

I think it'd be a nice tribute.

[Mall]

Monica and Brainy's going on tour, though.

[Baby D]

Oh, for real? Yeah. Oh, wait, weren't they on tour already with a.

[Mall]

No, they're going.

[Rory Malls]

We talked about it. They're going on tour. It starts really soon. Coco Jones, Kelly Rowland Jones is on that tour.

[Baby D]

It's Barclays, right.

[Rory Malls]

In Newark, if I'm not mistaken.

[Baby D]

Oh, we might need to go to the Newark one instead.

[Mall]

Oh, the auntie's gonna be outside. The aunties.

[Rory Malls]

But the young aunties, though.

[Mall]

Coco Jones gonna bring out some. So a new. A new generation Brandy and Monica gonna.

[Rory Malls]

Bring out some young aunties. I think young aunties is like 40, like 35.

[Baby D]

40.

[Mall]

They're gonna bring out. Yeah, they're gonna bring out the. I'm just saying it was Auntie still. They gotta get home. There's a lot. It's gonna be a lot of cr. They're leaving the crock Pot on, go to the show, come back, oxtail ready, falling off the bone. That's what the aunties do. They know how to time the Brandy concert.

[Baby D]

Yeah, they all for work the next day too.

[Mall]

I think I might Go to that.

[Rory Malls]

I want to go.

[Mall]

Randy. Monica. I gotta see that.

[Baby D]

With Kelly Rowland and Coco Jones.

[Mall]

I don't think I've ever seen Brandi live neither.

[Baby D]

I don't think I've seen anyone on that list live. Maybe Coco Jones.

[Mall]

I think I've seen Monica. I've seen her somewhere. Somebody brought her out on the set. But I've never seen Brandi sing live.

[Rory Malls]

I wanna hear Brandi sing Folded. When Brandi get up there and sing Folded by Kehlani, I'm gonna melt into the floor.

[Mall]

She's on official remix today.

[Rory Malls]

So Kehlani is releasing an EP full of folded remixes. Brandi will have one Toni Braxton. Mario. And I'm missing somebody. Jojo is also remixing it. So it's gonna be an EP of Kehlani remixes.

[Mall]

That's interesting.

[Baby D]

Yeah.

[Mall]

Like putting out an EP of the same song, but just like.

[Rory Malls]

But they're redone kind of. So, like, Toni Braxton's is called Unfolded, which is kind of switches the purpose of the song. Brandi, you know, she's doing all her vocal layering. I can't wait to hear the way Jojo flips hers. It's gonna be amazing.

[Mall]

I just saw Tank release something yesterday. I think it was get folded. You know, Tank gotta get into horny.

[Rory Malls]

He gotta make it horny.

[Mall]

Tank just be horny. You know, Tank be horny.

[Rory Malls]

Tank gotta make it horny.

[Mall]

You know what I mean? He's still in the gym. He don't mean. He just come out testosterone. Turn the mic on. I'm horny.

[Baby D]

Like, that's what pause. Who's hornier? Brian McKnight or tank? That. That's a wild versus n tank.

[Mall]

I'm g tell you why. And I Ryan McKnight made tank is the homie.

[Baby D]

But I show you how to make your work.

[Mall]

Yeah, but that's just talk. Didn't take perform at a gay cruise or something like that.

[Rory Malls]

Yo, that's. That's. That sounds Tankish.

[Mall]

It don't get hornier than being a heterosexual and be like, you know what? I'm going to gay cruise and get my balls off.

[Baby D]

Is that the opposite of horny? If you heterosexual?

[Mall]

Nah, because it's like, you know, it's like, you know, nobody's hornier than gay men. First of all, nobody's hornier than men. So imagine gay men, okay, Never have their period. So it's not. They can't say, not tonight.

[Baby D]

I can't do nothing.

[Mall]

They always ready. Tank went and performed for the gays.

[Baby D]

Yeah. All right, so Tank treated the cruise like prison. Like, it doesn't count if it's here.

[Mall]

Okay, so it wasn't a cruise. The boat was done.

[Rory Malls]

No, making the making up the cruise part is killing me.

[Mall]

I thought it was a cruise on a gay cruise or something like that. But he performed at lb. LGBTQ Pride event.

[Baby D]

Oh.

[Mall]

I mean, it's events, so that means he was booked. It's not one. It says events. That's plural.

[Baby D]

Yeah, you got to perform a few times. You got to do, like.

[Mall]

You got to perform for the L's, the G's, the. The bees.

[Baby D]

I don't think they se. I don't think they segregate the boat.

[Mall]

Okay.

[Baby D]

The L's are in this hall.

[Mall]

Okay. All right. They was all.

[Baby D]

Then the bees is just everywhere. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Caller Thomas]

Okay.

[Baby D]

I definitely want the be all accident.

[Mall]

It was weird.

[Baby D]

D.C. and then Dallas.

[Mall]

Oh, D.C. for sure.

[Rory Malls]

D.C. it was.

[Mall]

Ooh, that gay heaven, man. D.C. i think all gays want to die and go to D.C. not.

[Baby D]

Well, the ones that want to hide.

[Rory Malls]

It go to Atlanta or Miami.

[Mall]

Miami's big gay capital. Like, a big gay population, too.

[Rory Malls]

They got a big. Yeah, they got surrounding neighborhoods that are all, like, gay.

[Mall]

Surrounding neighborhoods is funny.

[Baby D]

Surround. It's like. It's like. It's white flight.

[Mall]

Like, yo, it's redlining. They don't let them, like, ocean. But, like, they pushed him out to, like, four loaded surrounding areas.

[Rory Malls]

I'm for real.

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Let me tell you.

[Baby D]

It was their GI bill after World War II.

[Mall]

Pull up the surrounding area. Miami with Eng.

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You.

[Mall]

Josh. Fort Lauderdale is very. How you know that? Josh.

[Rory Malls]

Listen, listen. Wilton. Wilton Manors often called Florida's gay capital. In the vibrant city of Fort Lauderdale, which is. Which they're nearby. I know. I literally was on the phone with a friend, and he was like, yo, it's mad gay people skating around my hotel. Like, I.

[Mall]

Yo, it's mad gay people skating around my. Yo.

[Baby D]

You know, imagine just not knowing where you at, and then you walk out your hotel. It's just like, there's a lot of people on rollerblades. For real.

[Rory Malls]

That's what he. He was like, there's, like, a lot of gay people around. And I was like, I never knew that. So I looked. I looked it up, and I was like, oh, you're in, like, the gay capital of, like, Florida.

[Mall]

I never knew that.

[Rory Malls]

Yeah.

[Mall]

Had no idea.

[Baby D]

Damn, man. Yo, New York, like, we lost, man.

[Mall]

Is like, West Hollywood.

[Rory Malls]

Yeah.

[Mall]

I never knew that.

[Rory Malls]

But they have a gay village.

[Mall]

I feel like it's one in every city.

[Baby D]

Yeah.

[Mall]

Like, it's like a. It's like a Soho village in every major city.

[Baby D]

Yeah, at this point for sure. And then there's like Portland, which is like extra, extra. Like, Portland is. Is probably what that place in Florida thinks it is at this point.

[Mall]

Okay.

[Baby D]

And I mean, New York, we lost hip hop, we've lost the best restaurants, and we lost the gays. Like, we used to be the gay capital too.

[Mall]

How do we like best restaurants?

[Baby D]

I feel like you can now get good food everywhere. Like, the allure of New York, food wise. I go to Vegas and get this.

[Rory Malls]

I was gonna say Vegas has, like. Vegas is like, known for having really good restaurants now.

[Mall]

Vegas is just a carbon copy of every major city in the world. Yeah, you go to Vegas and think you in Paris.

[Baby D]

Like, but they'll spend the money to get it right. Like, the New York restaurants in Vegas taste exactly like New York restaurants.

[Mall]

I don't know, man.

[Rory Malls]

I still think in Chicago, they say Chicago has amazing food.

[Mall]

Chicago has great restaurants as well. But I still think New York is the capital of like.

[Baby D]

Like, you can get good pizza almost anywhere now.

[Mall]

Y' all say that until you go somewhere order pizza and be like, his ass. Yeah. I don't think you could just get good pizza anywhere.

[Baby D]

I can. I can get it.

[Mall]

I'm a pizza snob, though, so I'm a little different.

[Rory Malls]

Oh, ye.

[Mall]

I'm a pizza snob. I know good pizza. But I could hide good pizza. I could. As soon as you bring it out the oven, I could tell it ain't enough cheese on that. The crust is too thick. Like you. I could just look at it and.

[Baby D]

Tell New York, like, per square mile, you can get the a good slice where you can't do that in any other city. But if you just like, rival the best in New York versus the best somewhere else, it's not going to be that far off anymore. Like, yeah, they've learned. I don't know if it's the Internet. Like, they've just learned, like, you can literally roller skate with a gay and get a good slice in any city in America now where that was strictly just a West Village thing.

[Mall]

I love when you go out of town and you. You pass a pizza spot and it's called New York pizza.

[Rory Malls]

Yeah.

[Mall]

It's like, this ain't New York pizza. I don't care what y' all name. This is a New York pizza.

[Baby D]

Like, New York Fried Chicken is in every city now.

[Mall]

What is New York Fried Chicken?

[Rory Malls]

I've Never heard no New York fried chicken. What the hell is that?

[Baby D]

It's like just the chicken spot.

[Mall]

Oh, you talking about like they.

[Baby D]

Are they a bunch in Baltimore.

[Mall]

Like Kansas fried, Kennedy fried, all of those.

[Baby D]

Yeah. Like everywhere in D.C. new York Fried chicken. Like, it says it everywhere.

[Rory Malls]

That's weird.

[Mall]

Yeah. I don't want New York fried chicken.

[Rory Malls]

Me either.

[Baby D]

That's really not that good.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Baby D]

But I mean, I don't even know how we got on. How do we go from cash money to no limit to gays roller skating in Florida? Oh, Tank. Yeah, that's a great. That's a great bag, though. Like, yo. As a heterosexual man performing and singing R B at the LGBTQ plus event, like, and looking the way he looked. Yeah, no, Tank. Tank did numbers.

[Mall]

You said what? Beach?

[Rory Malls]

What does that mean? Because I said Tank looking the way he looked. Tank is.

[Baby D]

Yeah.

[Rory Malls]

Attractive enough that even gays will find him attractive. Like, he's attractive.

[Baby D]

Like.

[Rory Malls]

Yeah, no, Tank doesn't look gay, but Tank is so fine that even gay men will find him attractive. And they hard to please.

[Mall]

And they hard to please.

[Baby D]

They are the probably the biggest critics we have. Yeah.

[Rory Malls]

Yeah.

[Baby D]

Respectfully. Yeah, I would say they're. They're the highest critic.

[Mall]

Okay.

[Baby D]

Women only care about gay compliments. They don't care about us.

[Mall]

Well, women are gay.

[Baby D]

So that's that Saying. That's.

[Mall]

That is just saying they are.

[Rory Malls]

Yeah, that just ends that combo.

[Mall]

Yeah, they are. Women are gay. I like it though.

[Baby D]

Well, anyways, yes, Complex Con will be streaming this. I will be signing up. I did see that.

[Mall]

I'm watch because I just want to. I'm just interested to see how they gonna pull us off for sure. But I'm nervous. I don't know if this is that peach. I don't know if this is. Yeah, this is that. I don't know if we want to do that for this.

[Baby D]

Was it the Kirk Franklin? What was the one that they had like, technical issues and we all watched for like three hours and then they just rescheduled it.

[Mall]

Baby face. I think there's any Baby Face and Teddy Riley.

[Baby D]

Yeah, I think that was it. It was one of like the first.

[Mall]

One was so much shade.

[Baby D]

Yeah, I think this one is going to be that. We'll reschedule it to a later date. That never gets rescheduled.

[Mall]

Yeah, I'm nervous. But it is. It is exciting to see cash money versus no limit anywhere. So hopefully they put together a great show. Either way, we will be tuned in for that one.

[Baby D]

And I hope Master P gets his his flowers.

[Mall]

He doesn't get them already.

[Baby D]

I don't think he gets enough. I think a lot of like the moguls, not just in hip hop but moguls period that we revere and talk about often. Masterpiece is what a lot of people think those moguls are like. Masterpiece is really direct to consumer for sure. Like out the trunk to multi million millionaire status without a doubt. And I always like Masterpiece joints man. I know he got a lot of flack for not being the greatest rapper but I mean I got the hook up Holly for hearing me. He was one of my favorites back in the day.

[Mall]

He was one of my favorites. He's one of my favorites back in the day. Definitely. Absolutely.

[Baby D]

He told Solange that was his war cry and I almost cried. New worry and Mouse Ma I know you are thinking about upgrading to the all new iPhone 17 Pro. You constantly are talking about it because it's designed to be the most powerful iPhone ever. Which is again something you always tell us. But are you also thinking about the traffic on your way to the store or transferring all the money bag data that you have in that phone? Well, good news for you Maul. When you order a new phone online with Boost Mobile, they'll send an expert to your home or work to deliver your brand new iPhone 17 Pro and get you set up on Boost Mobile within minutes.

[Mall]

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No hassle.

[Mall]

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[Baby D]

This is an ad by BetterHelp. October 10th is World Mental Health Day and this year I think we should take the time and focus our attention on thanking our therapists, the people that we dump all of our problems on every day that just have to go out in the world and digest all the nonsense and insane things that we say to them. We need to say thank you to the therapists. Check up on your strong friend. I'm sure it takes a toll on them as well. This year, BetterHelp is shining the spotlight on therapists, people who truly make the world a better place. If something keeps you up at night, just go get a therapist, dump that problem on them, and then we'll celebrate them on the 10th. BetterHelp therapists work accordingly to a strict code of conduct and are fully licensed in the US with over 30,000 therapists, BetterHelp is the world's largest online therapy platform, Having served over 5 million people globally and it works with an average rate of 4.9 out of 5 for a live session based on over 1.7 million client reviews. The World Mental Health Day let's celebrate the therapists who've helped millions of people take a step forward. If you're ready to find the right therapist for you, BetterHelp can help you start that journ journey. Our listeners get 10% off their first [e-mail] Rorymol that's betterhelp.com Rorymol.

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[Baby D]

Ed Helms here and hi, I'm Kal.

[Mall]

Penn and we're the hosts of Irsay.

[Baby D]

The Audible and iHeart Audiobook Club.

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[Rory Malls]

You know what?

[Baby D]

I can see you as Mr. Darcy.

[Rory Malls]

You got a little Colin Firth.

[Ed Helms and Kalpen (Irsay Podcast Hosts)]

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[Mall]

Rolling Stones. 250 Greatest Songs. Rory, were you crying when this list came out? Did some of your favorites not make it?

[Baby D]

Well, they got you again.

[Mall]

Why they got me again?

[Baby D]

Because we're talking about a list. Unfortunately, truthfully, I, I just looked at this before we started recording because again.

[Mall]

I'm starting of the 21st century so far, yes.

[Baby D]

Okay, number one. I don't, I don't need to start at 250. That doesn't care that much. Number one, Missy Elliott. Get your freak on.

[Mall]

That's the greatest song of the 21st century. Get your freak on.

[Baby D]

Love it. Love it.

[Mall]

I mean, it's a great record. Classic. Number one. Y' all know.

[Baby D]

What do we do?

[Mall]

Man, Y' all know I love Missy. I mean, I, I, I, I came on here and raved about her Chicago show, like one of the greatest we have. But get your freak on is not the number one song.

[Baby D]

It's not even Missy's number one song.

[Mall]

Yeah, it's like the 21st century. Yeah.

[Baby D]

Nah, then we get right into yeah, yeah, yeah, maps.

[Mall]

Okay, I see what's going on. I get it.

[Baby D]

Number three, Beyonce and Jay Z, crazy in love. Then to the White Stripes, Seven nation Army. Then we get to Taylor Swift. All too well. Then Robin Dancing on my own. Kendrick Lamar. All right, Radiohead. Not even gonna try to pronounce it. Britney Spears, toxic. Then Frank Ocean thinking about you closing up the top 10 toxic.

[Rory Malls]

Better than autumn Songs. That's before it.

[Mall]

Britney Spears.

[Rory Malls]

Like, I ain't even gonna lie.

[Baby D]

All right.

[Rory Malls]

Too, like what?

[Mall]

Okay, see, I was gonna say that, but you know, if I say that it just seems like, all right, number seven just.

[Rory Malls]

It's too high up. But it's better than all the damn songs they mentioned before it.

[Baby D]

I mean, all right, let's. Let's. Instead of on the list, let's. Let's try to give some positive critiques, some things we're happy to see. Okay. I think it's great that scissors snoozes at 13.

[Mall]

Okay.

[Baby D]

I think Snooze is one of the greatest songs of our generation. Yeah, I love that Daddy Yankee Gasolina got its. Its props at number 14.

[Rory Malls]

That.

[Baby D]

That was groundbreaking. Outkast, Bombs over. Bad act. I'm not mad at that. At 15. I'm really not.

[Mall]

It's definitely one of those. The biggest songs of the 21st century, for sure.

[Baby D]

But it's also not the best outcast song of the 21st century.

[Mall]

But, you know, would you say Ms. Jackson over there?

[Baby D]

I would, yeah.

[Mall]

Okay.

[Baby D]

And I don't even think it's close.

[Mall]

Hey, y'.

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All.

[Baby D]

Mariah Carey at 16. We belong together.

[Rory Malls]

It's better than every single song that y' all have mentioned so far. That song played on the radio for, like, two years straight. You couldn't escape it. It was on the radio for two years straight.

[Baby D]

I think if they would have put the Kissing Styles remix, it would have maybe made it to 12.

[Mall]

Is that be Cox and J.D.

[Baby D]

I believe so.

[Mall]

We Belong Together.

[Rory Malls]

Hotline Bling is not a good song. Why is that number 17?

[Mall]

You don't think Hotline Bling is a good song?

[Rory Malls]

I think it's to be on the top 21st.

[Mall]

No, that was a big record.

[Rory Malls]

It doesn't matter how big it is. Yo, Laffy Taffy was a big, big record. That doesn't matter. Someone's like, we're talking about good. Hotline Bling is not a good song. Drake has way better songs than Hotline Bling.

[Mall]

Oh, no, I agree with you, but, I mean, it's. We can't say that. It's not one of his biggest records, though.

[Rory Malls]

Yeah, it's one of. It's not one of his best. Are we talking about best or biggest? Because if we going by biggest, then we going by numbers and all of those songs.

[Mall]

Well, I think that's what they doing.

[Baby D]

Well, no, then God's plan would have to be before Hot Bling.

[Rory Malls]

Exactly.

[Baby D]

But, I mean, I don't think Hotline Bling is a bad song at all. I think it deserves to be on the list. But I think there's bigger Drake records that that would Go before that. But I mean, I. I don't hate hotline bling.

[Rory Malls]

I don't hate. No, I like hotline bling, but that doesn't make it a. Like, when I'm thinking best songs, I'm thinking, like, a good song. Not a catchy song, because Hotline bling is a catchy song. I mean, like a good really, really well put together, like, record with depth. But maybe that's not what they're looking for because look at what number one is. You know what? Never mind. Never it. Never mind. Hotline bling is where it deserves.

[Mall]

I'm about to say.

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If.

[Baby D]

Anything after that is like, you know.

[Mall]

You know, let's just put the songs in the hat and just pick them.

[Baby D]

Adele. When did Adele's first album come out?

[Rory Malls]

2011. Well, I don't think that was her first album, but 2021.

[Baby D]

Is someone like you the best on there? I mean, I love that.

[Rory Malls]

No, 19 summer. Someone like you is not the best on 19. Rolling in the Deep is the best team.

[Baby D]

I could see them put rolling the deep at number one. Like.

[Rory Malls]

Yeah, yeah, agreed.

[Baby D]

Steve Lacey. Bad habit. I mean, I'm not mad at it. I'm sure he's mad at it.

[Mall]

He's definitely mad at it.

[Baby D]

He's live it at that. Lady Gaga. Bad Romance.

[Rory Malls]

All right.

[Baby D]

Whiskey attempts Essence Don't.

[Rory Malls]

On Bad Romance.

[Baby D]

I. I've only heard a chapel roan song once, and that was at the whatever award show.

[Mall]

You heard Josh, this is a good pick right here. D', Angelo, how does it feel?

[Baby D]

Yo, yo. There's been some. And I mean, you have to see the thumbnail, too. Out the gate of a. Yeah, I know where the gays are. My dad was there. Yeah, and now he's shirtless. D'. Angelo.

[Mall]

He knew the gay outskirts of Florida, but. Yeah, yeah, my dad lives there. Don't worry about it.

[Baby D]

2599 problems.

[Rory Malls]

Better than every song on the list. Better than every single song on the list. Like, what the are we doing here?

[Baby D]

Yeah, that's me.

[Mall]

But you know how these lists are. They just.

[Rory Malls]

They throw names in a hat.

[Baby D]

Yeah. Rihanna. We Found Love. That could have been number one.

[Mall]

Yeah, that definitely could have been number one.

[Baby D]

Confession.

[Mall]

I feel like any song that you play, as soon as New Year's, the ball drops. I feel like that's gonna be, like, that should be the top of the list.

[Rory Malls]

Except Fab Ball drop, because that was the worst New Year song all.

[Mall]

Nah, don't do that. See why people do that? People don't give that Record enough credit, bro. That record is not a bad record Every.

[Rory Malls]

Every year to piss you off every time at the end of the year.

[Mall]

I see, man. It's not a bad record. It's not. We Found Love, but, you know, don't.

[Baby D]

Act like you guys didn't play Big Draco and. And Drake. We Made it on New Year's Eve. Whatever year that was, we made it. They dropped that at like 11pm on the 31st. That was one. I wish more artists did that with records they knew were undeniable for. For New Year's.

[Mall]

Drop. Like New Year's Eve.

[Baby D]

Yeah. Or like the 30th or something to give it at least a day to get in the algorithm. Because, yeah, I'm. I'm as much as I love. We Found Love. I've done like, I don't know, 15 New Year's Eve with that record.

[Mall]

Beyonce Formation, number 32.

[Rory Malls]

There are better Beyonce songs.

[Baby D]

I mean, I love Formation. I feel like me, myself, and I could be a little higher. Yeah, this is. I. I don't know, man. Mall. I finally agree. I'm done with the list.

[Mall]

I tried to tell y', all, man. Y. These lists are like 250, though.

[Baby D]

Is. Is absurd. Like, I think lists of 50 that we debate are tough. I don't even know how to debate 250 songs.

[Rory Malls]

Thank you. Next deserves to be higher if I'm.

[Mall]

The songs on the Blind and Lights. Dessert. Blind and lights is number 41, let's say the biggest song in Spotify history. How Is that number 41?

[Rory Malls]

Oh, call me Maybe.

[Baby D]

That's a great record.

[Rory Malls]

Yeah, it's amazing record.

[Baby D]

I just went up to the top of the list just to try to get, like, a gauge what the two 50s were looking like at 249. Tweet. Oops. Oh, my God. Great record, by the way.

[Mall]

Wow.

[Rory Malls]

Don't do that to tweet.

[Baby D]

I know. That record is fire.

[Mall]

That's a big record. 249, though, is like, come on.

[Baby D]

It's just funny to go from that. And then a 248 is Fleet Fox's Tiger Mountain Peasant song.

[Mall]

Scarface. My block. Okay, listen, I'm not mad at it.

[Baby D]

Classic.

[Mall]

Classic record.

[Baby D]

Classic video, too.

[Mall]

Absolutely.

[Baby D]

Yeah. This is. This is all over the place. Mac Miller, 2009. That's random. But I I With that.

[Mall]

I respect that. I.

[Baby D]

That's like one of my on the low favorite Mac Miller songs that I don't think really gets it's due. But yeah, all right. I mean, they got us Again, day and night.

[Mall]

Might need to be hot in 237. Yeah, that needs to be hid in 237. That was a big record.

[Baby D]

I mean, listen, man, they had to put John Prine there.

[Mall]

Yeah, they had. They had to put it there.

[Rory Malls]

They had Jim Jones version. Shut up, Peach.

[Mall]

Is balling on there?

[Rory Malls]

Balling gotta be on there. Shaboozi needs to be higher. I don't like that.

[Mall]

Is balling on this list? That's a stat for Jim. If balling is on this list.

[Baby D]

Is Sucking or Not on this list?

[Rory Malls]

Oh, no. Sucker or not needs to be in the top five. I'm Dead ass.

[Baby D]

For sure.

[Rory Malls]

I'm dead ass. Suck it or Not. No, y' all don't understand. I could really do a whole soliloquy on how good Suck It or not is as a song. Yo, it's a fucking amazing song, bro.

[Mall]

But it sound like you got like a little nostalgic, like you going down memory lane.

[Baby D]

I have.

[Rory Malls]

I have freestyles from when I was like 10 years old. To suck it or not. Like, I.

[Mall]

Why would.

[Rory Malls]

Because kids listen to shit they have no business listening to. I fucking love you.

[Baby D]

How'd you remix?

[Mall]

Yeah, like, what was your. What was your balls?

[Baby D]

What was your angle?

[Rory Malls]

I think it was.

[Baby D]

Was.

[Rory Malls]

Oh, God. Nothing appropriate for a 10, 11 year old.

[Mall]

That's. But that's what I. Okay, so now that's what I'm getting to. Whatever your boss was. 10 year olds wasn't supposed to be writing those bars.

[Baby D]

It was my ice cream truck.

[Mall]

Yeah, of course. It was natural.

[Rory Malls]

Was it?

[Baby D]

Remembering those bars. Now you can take your time. We'll actually stay. We'll actually stay quiet during a podcast for a second. Just to give you the proper space.

[Rory Malls]

If I was to call my cousins. They will remember.

[Mall]

They'll call them.

[Baby D]

Yeah, yeah, no, we got wi fi here.

[Mall]

Please call your cousin.

[Rory Malls]

I really. All I remember is Ass out Pink. Ass out Pink Timbs. I can't remember the.

[Mall]

Ask how. Pink Tim's is crazy.

[Degree Cool Rush Announcer]

All right?

[Mall]

Never mind. I swear to God. Cause then y' all get mad at me, ask out Pink SIMS for a 10 year old.

[Rory Malls]

It was bad. It was bad.

[Baby D]

You getting beat with those Pink Tims.

[Mall]

Yo, let me walk in my daughter room and she rhyming assh out Pink.

[Baby D]

Tim with the Tims I bought her.

[Mall]

What? Listen, Ass out Pink Tim's. I'm gonna need the next ball. Like, where you went from there?

[Rory Malls]

God, I cannot remember. I cannot remember where you go from.

[Mall]

Ass out, Pink Tim.

[Rory Malls]

I'm Gonna DM my cousin right now.

[Mall]

Ass out, Pink Timbs.

[Baby D]

I mean, for age appropriate, though, that would be a. A great start to a verse.

[Mall]

She went. She went Game float. Red rose, white ceiling.

[Rory Malls]

Yo, can y' all pass out Pink.

[Mall]

Tim's Red Rose White?

[Baby D]

It works. Game. You can add it.

[Mall]

Yo, game is the funniest. I don't want to tell you how many times I watched that clip with Game B acting like he don't know what he about to say. He was like, yo, what? I said, red rose, white stick.

[Rory Malls]

All right.

[Baby D]

My favorite one of it, though, is when they're in the parking lot and he asked the fan to freestyle and the Whatever. Yeah. People around the parking lot like, damn, I ain't done. This is so long.

[Mall]

I don't even know what I'm gonna give him.

[Baby D]

I don't even know.

[Mall]

Like, May, Red rose, white ceiling. Your game is the sickest thing ever for that, man.

[Baby D]

Nah, I gotta. I had to defect game a little bit in that era, though, that was happening because, bro, every Internet like that.

[Mall]

Every rapper could get caught doing that at the time. Because was taking the same bars across the entire country.

[Baby D]

Yeah.

[Mall]

Because it wasn't like nobody was going on the rad where everybody's going to hear it. Yeah. And now I got to get rid of those rhymes and write a new one. It was like I was just going to radio stations and I didn't know what they was playing in LA radio back then, we didn't hear that shit. So you can go from LA radio and then come to high 97 and give us the same bars. We would never know that you spit that in la. We wouldn't know that.

[Baby D]

And half the time, what they would spit, like a flex freestyle would end up on the album.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Baby D]

Like some of our favorite hoe Flex freestyles are songs now. Like, he spit PSA as freestyle.

[Mall]

Red rose, white ceiling. Got it, though. That is classic.

[Baby D]

That is the way they chop that up.

[Rory Malls]

It's one of my favorite Internet like, jokes too. Like, people say it on the Internet. It's hilarious.

[Mall]

Red rose, white ceiling, ass out. Pink Tim's. That's your. That's your red rose white silhouette. You gotta start every rap with ass out.

[Rory Malls]

Yo, you know what's. So I swear to God, I will send you the screenshot I wrote my cousin. I said, do you remember my suck it or not verse from when we were kids? He said. So I approached him. Ass out. Pink Tim's. How could I forget a cult classic?

[Mall]

I. I swear to God, Pink Tims is that's your red rose white Sil.

[Rory Malls]

What is the rest?

[Mall]

Yo, that's Damaris's red rose White. S out, Pink Tims. That's how you got to start every freestyle. Demar. Like what I say.

[Baby D]

Can we.

[Mall]

Was that in her.

[Baby D]

Was that in her push freestyle, huh?

[Mall]

Was that.

[Rory Malls]

No, it was not in my push. I don't repeat my bars like you.

[Baby D]

Where I repeat them, I be rapping.

[Mall]

I don't repeat my bars like you. Rory. Rory, she don't rap. You take the same bars all over the country. Damaris don't do that. That.

[Baby D]

What if y' all walk out the office and just see me freestyle against somebody and I'm just like, yo, ass out, Pink Tims.

[Mall]

I'm gonna just keep walking. Act like you don't know me. I'm just keep walking right past you.

[Baby D]

Just be battling people.

[Mall]

It's funny. That Damaris cousin was like, how could I forget? Ass out pink like that.

[Baby D]

I have to know the next bar.

[Mall]

Yeah, like, what was the next bar?

[Rory Malls]

I really forgot what it was.

[Mall]

Ass out, Pink Tim. How could I forget a cult classic? That's hilarious.

[Baby D]

Head of her time, too. That's like her Nicki pink wig. Thick ass. Thick ass. Nikki might owe Baby D some. Some pub.

[Mall]

So you might have smoke with Nikki. Now she stole your shit. Now this ass out. Paying tim's from a 10 year old is crazy.

[Rory Malls]

It's crazy.

[Mall]

I don't think y' all missing that part of it. A 10 year old wrote that.

[Rory Malls]

Y' all cannot let y' all kids hang out with their older cousins. Y' all really can't. But that's why when people, like when it was all that outrage about when WAP came out and they were like, oh, my God, the kids are listening to this. I'm like, man, we was listening Katrina and Lil Kim back in the day. I have no business, no business listening to like that.

[Baby D]

Suck it or not.

[Rory Malls]

At 10 years old, like, we had no business listening to that type of. But our parents. What we, like our parents didn't know what we had access to because now, because of the Internet, the parents know that we're all on the same Internet. Like before we were on Internet, our parents weren't. They had no idea what the we had.

[Mall]

That's why I'll be laughing now, because I keep always telling you I had to sneak and listen to doggy stuff. And my moms would not let me listen to that shit. And now my mom knows more about Snoop than I do. She's like, you know, Snoop did. I'm like, how you know what Snoop doing? Like, what are you watching?

[Rory Malls]

Well, Snoop is. Snoop is the black Martha Stewart.

[Mall]

Like, yeah, but the fact that my mom knows more about what Snoop has going on in his day to day now than I do, and I couldn't listen to him. Like, she would fucking take my fucking cassette and hide that shit when I was a kid.

[Baby D]

Baking with Martha is a little different than the jack off hours.

[Mall]

That is true.

[Baby D]

But. And. And parents are more. Our parents are more trusting of tv. That it was like, okay, like, I shouldn't have been watching the big pimping video at 12.

[Mall]

No.

[Baby D]

But you know, my parents like, oh, yeah, you could trust tv.

[Mall]

You could trust this box. Don't worry about it.

[Baby D]

Look at Carson Daly. He looks so nice.

[Mall]

Shout out to Vince Staples, Season two of the Vince Staples show.

[Baby D]

Yep. Trailer came out today. Well, yesterday, if you're listening to this.

[Mall]

Had a great conversation. Well, that was like a podcast we had at your session. Oh, yeah, that was with Vince. And he gave us the whole story about what he had to go through to get this season done. Lot of ups and downs, a lot of obstacles he had to get through. And, you know, I say it all the time. Vince is one of my favorite people, so I'm happy that he got this done. Excited to see the finished product supported. I told y', all this is the first show I ever watched. Well, season one was the first show I ever watched on Netflix where I actually thumbs up at the end.

[Baby D]

I like that.

[Mall]

Yeah, yeah. Cause I mean, I think Vince had tweeted about it. Like, it helps.

[Baby D]

Definitely does. Yeah.

[Mall]

You know, show and things like that.

[Baby D]

Robin like our shit.

[Mall]

Yeah. So I definitely. That was the first show I ever watched on Netflix where I actually hit thumbs up at the end of it. I thought the first season was great. And again, just knowing the backstory of everything he had to do on his own to get this, to get this season done. I'll definitely be watching this and you should too. Shout out to Vince Staples, the Vince Staples Show Season 2 trailer out now, November 6th.

[Baby D]

November 6th. And yeah, I mean, the trailer looks incredible. And it's. It looks much different than what season one was, just from down to the plot to how it's shot. Like, yeah, I'm excited to see this. And again, to echo what you said, knowing what he had to go through for this, it made me smile when I saw that the trailer got posted today. Yeah. So Congrats to Vince. November 6th. He's having a Much better week than Tim Westwood.

[Mall]

So what happened with Tim Westwood?

[Baby D]

Well, all right, right. We talked years ago, Tim Westwood, there was some alleged like handiness. He had gotten fired from BBC Radio, there was allegations. But he was officially charged with four counts of rape.

[Rory Malls]

Oh, wow.

[Mall]

Wow.

[Baby D]

I mean it was from TMZ to BBC. It's all, you know.

[Mall]

Yeah, we know that Tim had been, that's why he's been off the air for so many years. Yeah, he was dealing with a lot of this. So.

[Baby D]

But at that point it was, you know, a lot of just allegations, stuff within the workplace. You know, this is criminal from assault to rape. 1983, 17 year old girl was allegedly assaulted in London. 1986, a woman in her 20s was allegedly indecently assaulted in London between 1995 and 1996. Females between the age of 17 and 18 were allegedly raped in London between 2000, 2001. Another female, 17 to 18 allegedly raped in London. 2010, another one in 2010. 2016. Yeah, this is, this is.

[Mall]

Oh, okay. So let's get Tim Westwood out of here. So simple.

[Baby D]

I mean everyone is, is definitely owed a fair trial. But I mean this when, when the rumors have been going on for this long. Yeah, somebody's not lying.

[Mall]

Somebody's not lying. It's something.

[Baby D]

There can always be somebody lying. Yeah, but there's always somebody that's probably not.

[Mall]

Somebody's telling the truth.

[Baby D]

So yeah, obviously we hope justice is served in the best way possible for everything here. But yeah, I don't know, I mean, if he was a DJ in the States, would this be bigger news?

[Mall]

Well, yeah, this is probably.

[Baby D]

Tim Westwood was to London.

[Mall]

This is probably big news in London though. But this is probably all over the, you know, the airwaves in London, obviously because of the Internet and things like that. We know who Tim Westwood is. We see his videos, we see his, you know, artists, they used to go up there and freestyle. But you know, people from, from the UK have been talking about this for years. Yeah, this is something that, you know, they've known for years and have talked about. But now he's being officially charged with, with these, with these crimes and these assaults. So hopefully justice is served and victims can find some type of peace in that. But we will never be supporting Tim Westwood again either way.

[Baby D]

No, absolutely not. What are London jails like? Like what is the, I don't know what the prison system outside of America is like at all. Like in Canada, like are people scared to go to jail? Like.

[Mall]

Yeah, everywhere anyway, you in the world, you Scared to go to jail. But I mean, they. The jail systems are probably better than America. Okay, Yeah, I watch a lot of those shows on Netflix with it. But the guy, he goes. He's locked up. I think he's actually from the uk and he. He was wrongfully convicted of murder and he had. Did some years in jail. Now he goes around the different jails around the world just to see the conditions.

[Baby D]

Okay.

[Mall]

Some jails around the world are really nice. It's like, wait, this is a prison. Like, some prisons, they don't even lock the doors. You can come and go as you please in certain countries. And then you get to certain countries where it's like, literally, because these people have no family that are sending them money to get food and clothes, they're literally eating out of the sewer from the jail.

[Baby D]

Oh, for sure.

[Mall]

But they fish out of the sewer like scraps and like eat and drink like that.

[Baby D]

Yeah, I mean, we. We're not great, obviously with private prisons and the charges that people get locked up for and our judicial system is a mess. But yes, I'm aware that there's way worse jails in the world.

[Mall]

Oh, yeah, there's not even running, but there's some. That's incredible. They like college dorms.

[Baby D]

When they showed ASAP, Rockies, Switzerland. Yeah, that shit looked nicer than my St. Peter's dorm. And I mean, he shouldn't have been fucking locked up either way. But like, God damn.

[Mall]

Yeah, it didn't look like.

[Baby D]

Right, because like, I take a little R R and let me go sit down.

[Mall]

I was wild.

[Baby D]

Turn my phone off. Like, I'll go see that push ups.

[Mall]

Yeah, get my mind right here, man.

[Baby D]

Would you guys ever do that show, what is it, 30 days in, where you have to like, pretend.

[Mall]

No. Hell no.

[Baby D]

Those are. Those people are sicker than I think. Like the survivors when they find out.

[Mall]

You the mole, Are you the rat?

[Rory Malls]

So explain it to me because me, and I'm sure a bunch of other.

[Baby D]

Listeners don't know, so I believe is that that's not an fx.

[Mall]

No, that's A and E. A and.

[Baby D]

E. A and E. Thank you. People volunteer to go into jail for 30 days. They don't commit a crime. They just do this for the reality show. And they pretend to be prisoners in a prison system and just like, exist and. Yeah, I don't.

[Mall]

And they kind of got to just see how people live in the jails.

[Baby D]

Yeah.

[Mall]

But then, you know, people in jail, they start asking them quick, like, what you in for? Okay. Like your court date so, you know people that in the jail system, they know when something ain't adding up. Like, yo said he got arrested for stolen property, and, like. Like, but he should have been home. Like, why is he in for 30 years? You know what I'm saying? Like, they start putting two and two together, and then they realize, like, yo, you a cop? That they start asking, are you a police? Or something? So it's a good show, but I don't. I would never do much like that. I'm. First of all, I'm not doing no show where I got to sleep money. No, this is the experience. Like, they just want to go in there and experience how they live in the jails.

[Baby D]

I do want to know, though, like, what would be a funny scenario where there would be, like, a money prize?

[Mall]

Like.

[Baby D]

Like, if you don't get stabbed, 20k. Like, if they go to your system.

[Mall]

If you don't get shanked, you get 100 grand.

[Baby D]

Yeah. Like, if you. If you control someone else's commissary, that's 10 more grand.

[Degree Cool Rush Announcer]

Yeah.

[Baby D]

If you control the phone for an hour.

[Mall]

Yeah. Like, all right, give you 5,000 if you control the phones.

[Baby D]

They got to do Sims. Jail version.

[Mall]

Who was it that did a. A live stream for Joe? Wasn't it Drew?

[Baby D]

No, it was Kai. Drew Ski was in it.

[Mall]

But it was Kanye, wasn't it Kanye?

[Rory Malls]

No, he was in a. He wasn't in jail.

[Mall]

No, he hit Kanye's dressing room. Looked like a jail.

[Rory Malls]

Yeah.

[Mall]

When he was staying at the Mercedes Benz. Is it the Dome Stadium? Like, his dressing room, he kind of.

[Baby D]

Had it, which I don't think was intentional. I think he just put a cot there, and it just looked like a prison cell.

[Mall]

That wasn't Kanye in one of those videos, though, though, I'm sure. Yeah, that wasn't him. Like, it was the one dude that had the whole mask on. You could tell that wasn't kind of like, that's not Kanye.

[Baby D]

I felt that way when him and Game performed at Donna, too, when they both had on the masks in the same outfit. I was like, that ain't Game.

[Mall]

Yeah, yeah, that's not. That wasn't Kanye.

[Baby D]

But I think maybe in the Latin America one. On. Oh, yeah, there's an FX version. I think there's a cash prize if you.

[Mall]

30 days in.

[Baby D]

If you. Yeah, because some people, like, tap out after.

[Mall]

Isn't it 60 days in?

[Baby D]

60. No, then there's 90 days in. Like, there's different versions. Yeah, there's.

[Mall]

There's 30 days, or you did just 60. All right, 30 more.

[Baby D]

How do you even like sign up for that though? Like the vetting process for casting must be hilarious.

[Mall]

I think some of them are correction officers, aren't they? Yeah, some. Some of them like a correction officers.

[Baby D]

I mean that's just undercover at that point.

[Mall]

Yeah, some of them are cops.

[Baby D]

Do they still do Scared Straight or did that like they would get too sensitive for thought.

[Mall]

These wines ain't scared of no. That Scared straight. That shit ain't work.

[Baby D]

Did you.

[Mall]

It worked on my generation. Cause I actually went to Rikers with my school. Like we actually. Hell yeah, we went to Rikers and like.

[Baby D]

Sorry to hear that.

[Mall]

Yeah, like I'm so. I'm glad to hear that. That shit. What. When they closed that tight ass cell, I was like, wait, you sleep in here and it don't open until the morning? So. You know at home you used to just opening your room door, go to the bathroom, go to the kitchen. When that door closed and you in that title, you like, bro, it's. I would lose my. I'm too claustrophobic. I would lose my mind.

[Baby D]

Yeah.

[Mall]

I would have an anxiety attack as soon as that door locked. Knowing that this ain't gonna open for another 12 hours or something like that.

[Baby D]

What I. I think I'd be more scared in the dorm style Rikers than in my own cell.

[Mall]

No, put me in the dorm. I need open.

[Baby D]

Nah. Too.

[Mall]

That's too many people. Nah, I could deal with these.

[Baby D]

I had got swivel like now you.

[Mall]

Lock that big ass door and I can't open that and just take a walk. Nah, nah. I go crazy.

[Baby D]

It's funny you said that the. The WNS are not scared. The Michael Chase show that we love, it's severely underrated. Did you see the sketch where they did Scared Straight and all the young kids in jail were terrifying all the inmates. Like they shot them, stabbed them, beat them up, everything. It's one of the funniest sketches. It's exactly what you said. Why Scared Straight can't happen now these kids wilder than the people that are. That would try to scare them.

[Mall]

Yeah, it's. It's not. It was a great idea. It was a great experience for me. Like just seeing how people live in prisons. But that's. I don't think it's too much. We have too much access now. It's too much access. People see too much. People are desensitized. Like this generation is not. They're not really scared of anything.

[Baby D]

Some of those kids in that show got a Raw deal, though. Like, there was a kangaroo court. Some kids, like, it was like armed robbery at 14. Then it'd be like a 15 year old that talked back to his mom. I'm like, they shouldn't be in the same program.

[Mall]

Yeah, no, juvenile detention center.

[Baby D]

Like, what are we doing with this young kid? We're gonna scare him into trauma, not to a better path.

[Mall]

Yeah, he's just not listening to his mom. He's not a bad kid.

[Baby D]

And then what was the. That still goes viral where he tells the kid, your hair is uneven. The gay guy, you look dusty.

[Mall]

You look dusty. You're not that cute. Where I'd have been like, thank you. That's.

[Baby D]

He.

[Mall]

He missed his opportunity. Like, yo, thanks. I don't care if you're not attracted to me. You talk about like, cool. Thank you. I appreciate that.

[Baby D]

I wish they would do some type of a, like, interview series or. Or something on Tick Tock where they find some of these kids and we get like a. Where they at now? Because I'm sure it worked for some kids.

[Mall]

Oh, no, I definitely work for something. They tell you at the end of the show, like, yo, he's. He's been back in school. He hasn't missed no school.

[Baby D]

Yeah, but that's 15 to 16.

[Mall]

Some of them at work, they'd be like, yo, I'm not coming. I'm not be getting locked up. This. But some of them, you could just tell, like, you could tell, man, when you talking to some of them, you can look in their eyes and tell like, yo, he not scared. Especially if you wanted those 15, 16 year old kids that's like six feet tall. You're not finished growing. Yeah, you like six feet 190. You look at them like, yo, I'll get in here and wrestle with all. Yeah, I'm not scared of none of y'.

[Rory Malls]

All.

[Mall]

It take the. It's the smaller kids that are like, oh, no, I can't come in with these grown men. But these young kids that be like 6ft 180, 190, they not. They grown men. They don't care about that.

[Baby D]

And some of like the drug charges those kids had, they had to be like somewhat smart. Like, you can't do that unless you have some form of intelligence. They knew they couldn't get touched, so they didn't look scared at all. Yeah, they was just sitting there like, all right, you gonna hit me?

[Mall]

I like seeing how the female prisoners live, though, when they be doing each other hair and shit. They get creative as a motherfucker Some female prisoners, how they dye their hair? They use the Kool Aid and all that. Like, that be like, yo, y' all just like, y' all go to jail and get creative. Kool Aid for the hair dye.

[Baby D]

Kool Aid and peroxide.

[Rory Malls]

Mm.

[Mall]

You did that in the free world?

[Rory Malls]

One of my home.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Baby D]

When we were kids.

[Rory Malls]

I didn't do it out my hair. I did it out one of my. Yeah, her mother wouldn't technically let her dye her hair, so peroxide and Kool Aid.

[Mall]

All right, baby. Baby, you're not a chemist, though, so how you knew the. The measurements? Like, how you knew.

[Rory Malls]

I don't know. We just was throwing at the wall. See what stick, babe, with your hair? Not. Not my hair. My home girl hair. Yeah.

[Mall]

Is she okay? Is. Did it. Did it.

[Rory Malls]

Like, it changed her hair color. I'm sure it broke it off eventually, but I was kids, you know, you don't stay friends long enough when you that young to figure out if they was older.

[Mall]

Baby D. Took all the shorty edges and just moved on in life, baby. Deep fried all the edges out and then move to another county.

[Baby D]

Probably remembers the freestyle and everything.

[Degree Cool Rush Announcer]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Mall]

Ass out, pink tips, Kool Aid hair. Oh, my God.

[Baby D]

Wait, so you just made the Kool Aid with water and threw.

[Rory Malls]

You don't make the Kool Aid. You.

[Baby D]

You just use the powder.

[Rory Malls]

The powder.

[Mall]

Which. Which flavor did you use?

[Rory Malls]

I don't. Cherry. I would assume it was. We was dying red, so cherry.

[Mall]

So just the cherry packet with peroxide. That sounds crazy.

[Baby D]

Sugar.

[Mall]

No sugar, no hair. Yeah, that sounds crazy. That didn't start fizzing up like. It didn't. Because peroxide. You know, peroxide, that starts when you mix that with other. It starts, like, fizzing. So I could imagine with that Kool Aid powder, like, and you just sitting there whipping that, watching it, and then she's sitting there letting you comb that in her hair. Y' all was in the house doing some.

[Baby D]

My friend pierced his own ear in class with a lighter and a needle.

[Rory Malls]

Oh. Yep. They used to do that, too.

[Mall]

Where's he at now? I said, I want to know where that kid is.

[Baby D]

He's. He's back. I've talked about before. He's back in Tucson now. His. He moved out here when he was 13 because his dad was. Got arrested for bringing in illegal immigrants, Bush era. And he went to come live with his grandparents. That one of my best friends, Lopez. Yeah.

[Mall]

That's funny.

[Baby D]

Yeah, he. He took a needle in class and pierced his Own ear and it worked. Like, I'm sure his. His pierce ears now are from that. I'm sure it's still.

[Mall]

I was never that bored.

[Rory Malls]

Bro.

[Baby D]

Bro, he said it didn't hurt.

[Mall]

That's just bored. Like piercing your own ear in class. Like, you just. You just bored.

[Baby D]

I mean, I post. How do you learn time stables. I'm cool. Yeah.

[Mall]

I don't know. Weird kids, man. Was he white? No, you said Lopez Mexan. Okay.

[Baby D]

White passing Mexican.

[Mall]

Okay.

[Baby D]

So I don't. I don't know if that adds in some of that, like, demonic. Yeah, never. Yo.

[Rory Malls]

What?

[Baby D]

Listen, man. White passing Mexicans, they turn into goths usually.

[Rory Malls]

You know, that's like the majority of your fan base. You might want to take that out.

[Mall]

Is golf.

[Rory Malls]

No. White past and Mexican.

[Baby D]

One of my best friends. I'm not, I'm not saying that. I'm just.

[Rory Malls]

I have a black friend.

[Baby D]

Yeah. I voted for Obama twice.

[Mall]

That's like when Kelly said, I like Latinos in the tat. In the text, yo, I was crying, yo. Because you know when you read that, it just like, you know, Kelly's a great person. Like, she's not a bad person. But it's like texting that.

[Baby D]

You didn't know what that sounded like. It's like what I had to. Haha.

[Mall]

I love Latinos. I love Latinos. What?

[Baby D]

Who said.

[Mall]

What? Like, all right, I guess, whatever.

[Baby D]

Look at my African American.

[Mall]

Yeah, look at my. Over there. There he is. All right, Baby D. This Mariah Carey album came out.

[Rory Malls]

Say what you said. Say what you said.

[Mall]

No, I'm just saying I didn't hear you supporting it. I didn't hear you say nothing about it.

[Rory Malls]

I haven't heard. I haven't had the chance to hear it yet.

[Mall]

Oh, you ain't even press play on Mariah.

[Rory Malls]

I haven't had the chance to hear it.

[Mall]

So I started playing it yesterday. We was here yesterday. I started playing it. Cause I was like, damn, I didn't hear nothing from the album. And I was like, is this an AI album? That was the first thing I said. Then when I played it, I heard it. I'm like, yeah, this feels like AI. The auto tune is heavy.

[Rory Malls]

And I told you that it's not. There's a difference between heavy auto tune and AI.

[Mall]

Is it?

[Rory Malls]

Yes, AI is. You're having a robot or a computer system sing this for you. That is the same thing that singers have been doing since the dawn of time. Mariah just never had to do it. But because she's given us her amazing voice over the years. She's. It doesn't work the same as it used to. So she went in the studio, she sang, and they pitch corrected. People being pitch corrected for years.

[Mall]

But I feel like this. This is different because they already have Mariah's actual vocals. They know she. What her voice sounds like. I think they may have used some AI with this, though. Auto Tune. Because Auto Tune, the AI, It's.

[Baby D]

It's different, but it's definitely different.

[Mall]

It's different, but it's. It's similar in a way of. It's going to take your vocals, but then it's going to. You know, autotune is gonna make sure it's on this in the same key and things like that of the. Of the music.

[Baby D]

It'll smooth out with what you're doing.

[Mall]

Yeah. Now, AI, when you talking about just the vocal. AI because they have Mariah's actual vocals and know. And know what she sounds like, they can implement it to the music and they'll probably have to use Auto Tune in as well. But I think there's definitely some AI.

[Rory Malls]

What is making you feel like it's AI in comparison to Auto Tune?

[Mall]

Because I don't feel like Mariah actually was in the booth singing this.

[Rory Malls]

But why do you feel like. What I'm saying is, when you hear it, what is telling you it's AI.

[Mall]

It just doesn't feel like Mariah's real vocals. It doesn't feel like. It just feels like Mariah's voice. It doesn't feel like she actually sang it and then they just had to pitch correct certain notes. It doesn't feel like that. It doesn't feel like she was actually singing that. It feels like they just used her. Her. Her voice.

[Rory Malls]

As far as you're saying, it doesn't feel like that. I'm. I want to hear. I want to say, sonically, what are you hearing? Are you saying it doesn't sound like the way Mariah used to sound? Because Mariah doesn't sound the way Mariah used to sound.

[Mall]

No, it just doesn't. Well, sound and feel, though, like. It didn't feel like that was. I can't. It just didn't feel like she. She actually laid those vocals to that song.

[Baby D]

Guys clown me for calling things warm forever, but that's what Mall's saying.

[Mall]

Warm.

[Baby D]

Warm. Yeah.

[Mall]

It doesn't. It doesn't have.

[Baby D]

That doesn't feel warm form.

[Mall]

Yeah, it doesn't. It doesn't feel like she's saying it. And they just had to Pitch correct certain notes. It doesn't. It doesn't feel like that.

[Baby D]

I. I went back and listened after you said that yesterday. I think you're both right. I think. I do think Mariah laid this down in the booth, but the same way. Did you hear the first record off the Jadakiss and Beanie Siegel? Yes, I think they did what they're doing with Beans. They're using Beans AI voice from his previous stuff because of the unfortunate incident that happened to him. His vocal beans are sitting in there writing the. Laying it down, and they're taking his old voice and putting it on top of what he cut to make it, you know, just smooth out and feel like old. Beans. Yeah, I think that's what they did here. I don't think this was just. Just a bit of tune and pitch correction. I think they laid some AI shit on top of what Mariah cut. That's what it sounds like to me. Yeah, it sounds like AI on top of what she cut.

[Mall]

Okay.

[Baby D]

To me, that's what it sounds like.

[Rory Malls]

I mean, I don't know.

[Baby D]

It's, like, too digital.

[Rory Malls]

I don't know. What I will say is, like I said, I know that Mariah has lost, you know, some of the va va voom of her voice.

[Mall]

Some of the what?

[Rory Malls]

The va va voom. Because of everything that she's done. She doesn't really use her voice and strain her voice anymore. I would be surprised if she did that because I know how much Mariah is a vocal snob, a music snob, a writing snob. She's been very, very critical of people, everybody, when it comes to certain things. So for her to do that will go against everything that she's preached, and I just don't see her doing that. I know using the auto tune is bad enough for her. The auto tune being that heavy is. Is. Is very humbling to her, I would assume, just.

[Mall]

Is that.

[Baby D]

Why not with live performances that we've heard, like the raw vocals.

[Rory Malls]

Yeah, but what I'm saying is that's when she was younger. This is new, new shit. So I know that that's killing her to do that.

[Mall]

That.

[Rory Malls]

So to put AI on top of that, it just kind of goes against everything she's ever talked about. But, I mean, I'm not saying it's impossible.

[Baby D]

This is where I, like, don't really mind AI like that. Because Beans, for example, some shit happened. Beans is still an incredible writer. If we can use his old voice, his actual old voice to help him and him only, I think that's fine. Mariah is one of the greatest singers ever. If we can use her voice to help her her own career and not some bot or some random person, I think AI is, like, acceptable.

[Mall]

But is that why you haven't listened to it yet? Because you know it's not Mariah as you know her?

[Rory Malls]

I just have maybe partially and maybe.

[Mall]

I feel like that's what it is. I feel like if this was Mariah. Mariah.

[Rory Malls]

I haven't really. I haven't really thought about it. I just haven't been in that mode. Like, for me to listen to R B like that. I've only been in that mode. You said what?

[Mall]

You're not in love.

[Rory Malls]

That has nothing to do with it. That has nothing to do with it.

[Mall]

What mode are you talking about then?

[Rory Malls]

I've been in Cardi. I've been listening to rap a lot. I've been listening to a lot of rap.

[Mall]

Are you in that mold?

[Rory Malls]

Yeah.

[Mall]

You're back in that mode.

[Baby D]

Yeah.

[Mall]

I love when Baby D back in that mood.

[Rory Malls]

No, it's just, you know, I'm gonna rap, like, music wise, I'm gonna rap mode. I also have not turned off Mariah to science.

[Baby D]

I have a theory why. Because Damaris is in love and she feels very vulnerable. That bothers her. So she needs to get some of her aggression back with some rap, like, nah, these men, all that.

[Rory Malls]

Oh.

[Mall]

So, yeah, she don't want to get too soft.

[Baby D]

She's scared of the feelings that are happen. How great he's treating her like he.

[Mall]

Yeah, but she got to show she ain't no punk.

[Baby D]

Exactly.

[Mall]

She got. Yeah. All right. Those flowers is cute and all that, but all right. I ain't no punk.

[Baby D]

This Cardi over here. Yeah.

[Mall]

Bodega baddie. You still a bodega baddie right now.

[Rory Malls]

Bodega baddie. Yeah.

[Mall]

Okay.

[Rory Malls]

Yeah.

[Baby D]

All that love would make her feel even more vulnerable. Yeah.

[Mall]

Women don't want to be vulnerable.

[Rory Malls]

Yeah.

[Baby D]

What in these days?

[Rory Malls]

No, I love a narrative.

[Mall]

You love narrative.

[Baby D]

Great title to this episode. I love a narrative.

[Mall]

I love a narrative.

[Rory Malls]

Get y' all shit off. You see how Marlo try to call you out with like. But I don't do that to him, though.

[Mall]

What? Call me out, be like, oh, you ain't in love.

[Rory Malls]

I be like, huh. You. You know, you say huh, a.k.a. like, move on.

[Mall]

I did move on.

[Rory Malls]

Now you repeated the question.

[Mall]

No, but I moved on, though. Then he came in and he added his red rose white ceiling. Yeah. What you want me to do? Like, he did that I didn't do that.

[Rory Malls]

I.

[Mall]

Shut the fuck up. I got. As soon as you said, I was like, all right, I see what we on, baby. She ain't trying to go there. All right, my bad. You got it?

[Rory Malls]

Yeah.

[Baby D]

Gotta save that for Tik Tok.

[Rory Malls]

Well, speaking of comebacks, my boy Soulja. Soulja. It's coming back. Soulja got a new album.

[Mall]

I was Swag Boy. Swag 7 surprise album.

[Baby D]

Oh, I thought you about to say he's about to put out a surprise album. I was like, well, not really a surprise.

[Rory Malls]

I know.

[Baby D]

He.

[iHeart Advertising Announcer]

He surprised.

[Rory Malls]

It's already. It's out.

[Baby D]

Okay. Cuz I could see Soulja Boy announcing a surprise album. Yeah, yeah, that's. I could really. I could really see that happening.

[Mall]

That's his type of like. Like, y' all got November 24th surprise surprise album. November 24th.

[Baby D]

First artist to ever do that, announce the surprise album.

[Mall]

Definitely some Soulja Boy Swag seven.

[Baby D]

Naturally. I mean, Swag one through six was classics. Is this a series?

[Mall]

I don't know. I don't know. I'm not listening.

[Rory Malls]

I didn't know there was a 16.

[Mall]

Shout out to soul you was what?

[Rory Malls]

I would listen to a Soulja Boy album just to see what it sounded like.

[Mall]

Like, in 2025, I would see.

[Rory Malls]

Yeah.

[Mall]

For real?

[Baby D]

Yeah.

[Mall]

Okay.

[Rory Malls]

Now, if it's ass, it's ass. But, like, I would give y' all.

[Mall]

Listen to it and let me know what y' all think then I'm looking at.

[Baby D]

The COVID art is cool.

[Mall]

The COVID artist. What does the music sound like?

[Baby D]

Don't do that. Cover art won't intrigue you to want to listen to something.

[Mall]

For sure. Yeah, for sure. I'm not listening to it, but I'm just, you know, that's just me.

[Baby D]

Come on. L Vuitton is on it.

[Mall]

Who? See? Lost me already. I don't even know who that is.

[Baby D]

This. All right, first of all, out the gate. They copy my swag. I do like that. I like when Soulja Boy talks his. Because a lot of people have copied him. Okay, I'm sorry. Were you guys trying to hear the first record or.

[Rory Malls]

Oh, my God, that's bad.

[Baby D]

Good piece.

[Rory Malls]

It's like.

[Mall]

Come back in with that, please.

[Rory Malls]

That is like. As if, like, Gun and Thug, like, took mushrooms or speed. Gun and Thug took metal.

[Baby D]

Speed is funny.

[Rory Malls]

Took speed and tried.

[Mall]

So now you see why I said I wouldn't. I'm. That's not for me.

[Rory Malls]

I mean, but I would give it a second to hear he had some Migos in there.

[Baby D]

Maybe he's just trying to prove to y' all that they all copy the swag. The name of the song is they Copy My Swag. And they had Thug Gunna Migos style and that. And that's Big Draco.

[Mall]

Okay?

[Baby D]

And he. He can do it without ever eqing anything just to have it rashly hurt your ears. You can still do it that way.

[Mall]

Well, listen to it. Let me know what you think.

[Baby D]

I mean, after the intro, I think.

[Rory Malls]

Think I'm cool.

[Baby D]

I got.

[Mall]

Now y' all don't want Swag seven, right?

[Rory Malls]

They didn't really grab my attention with the intro.

[Baby D]

Y' all better relax. He's. He's violently threatened me before.

[Mall]

For real?

[Baby D]

Yeah, on Twitter.

[Mall]

Wait, what? Oh, for what?

[Baby D]

I did. Haven't we talked about this before?

[Mall]

We. Bro, we've been talking for 10 years. I don't know. I don't remember.

[Baby D]

No, I think we talked about this in 2015 when it happened. I was in Houston, and I forgot what I said. But he, like, said he was going to shoot me in the face on, like, on a public platform for him.

[Mall]

I think I do remember that. But have y' all pieced it up? Or is it like.

[Baby D]

We haven't run into each other. We haven't spoken.

[Mall]

All right.

[Baby D]

Damn.

[Mall]

So it might still be.

[Baby D]

You know, I can't get to the places. Big Draco. Where will we ever piece it up? I don't got access to that.

[Mall]

Right, that's okay. So it might still want to piece it up.

[Rory Malls]

Ah, that's funny.

[Baby D]

Oh, yeah. Here we go.

[Mall]

So Big Draco said, what do you say? You don't. You don't me, bro. This word. I'll kill you. Shout out to Swag.

[Baby D]

I think.

[Mall]

Go ahead, Rory, stream that. Cause he. He on.

[Baby D]

Yeah, right.

[Rory Malls]

Oh, no.

[Baby D]

He kept going for, like, the whole day.

[Degree Cool Rush Announcer]

Oh, he got.

[Mall]

He gave you more.

[Baby D]

I think that may have been the original. What did I say, bro?

[Mall]

Rory said, bro, you were making videos of yourself.

[Baby D]

Oh, yeah. This was my Twitter.

[Mall]

My Twitter. And icloud was hacked. Just changed on my password. You retweeted and responded to that with, bro, you were making videos of yourself. Soulja Boy then responds with shut up.

[Baby D]

Logic to the entire situation.

[Mall]

Yeah, just shut up. All right, well, stream Swag seven, man, so, you know. You mean you'll be on your head, man.

[Baby D]

Oh, yeah.

[Mall]

Let me know what you think about it.

[Baby D]

That was a nasty time. This was.

[Mall]

And sometimes you do have to tell people to just shut up.

[Baby D]

Oh, we're coming up on the anniversary October 2016.

[Mall]

Oh, you got to repost that.

[Baby D]

You think maybe that's why he dropped swag 7 when he did was around the same time.

[Mall]

Oh, okay. Yeah, he was thinking about you.

[Baby D]

Yeah. You know come nine year anniversary. Yeah, 97. You see, you don't even know numerology like that.

[Mall]

You're right.

[Baby D]

All right. Forget went over your head.

[Mall]

You right.

[Baby D]

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[Baby D]

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[Ed Helms and Kalpen (Irsay Podcast Hosts)]

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[Mall]

I'm Kalpen and we're the hosts of.

[Baby D]

IRSAY the Audible and iheart Audiobook Club.

[Ed Helms and Kalpen (Irsay Podcast Hosts)]

This week on the podcast I am sitting down with Jenny Garth, host of the iHeart podcast. I choose me to discuss the new Audible adaptation of the timeless Jane Austen classic Pride and Prejudice. This is not a trick question. There's no wrong answer. What role would I play?

[Rory Malls]

You know what?

[Baby D]

I can see you as Mr. Darcy.

[Rory Malls]

You got a little Colin Firth.

[Ed Helms and Kalpen (Irsay Podcast Hosts)]

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[Mall]

Lenovo.

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[Baby D]

Spin the block. I mean, I take it away. It's just the two of them, right?

[Mall]

Take it away, baby. D. This is your segment right here. This is your because posted and I saw it. Now you Block spinners, assemble. Block spinners assemble. She called for the Avengers. The block spinners.

[Rory Malls]

Yo, that's our leader.

[Mall]

That's JLo and Ben Affleck reunite on the red carpet for Kiss of the Spider Woman. So people, you know, saying JLo and Ben are back together, but I'm one of those people that think JLo and Ben never break up.

[Baby D]

They just need a break.

[Mall]

We just assume that they break up. Like, they don't. They don't.

[Baby D]

I actually think think everyone shits on them. I think they probably have the healthiest relationship of anybody. Like, we're just gonna take a few years off, get back to it, do honeymoon again or hate each other. Get a break.

[Mall]

Or they're two of the biggest stars in Hollywood and they have things to go do and they're not together for a couple months. He's gone being Batman.

[Baby D]

She's gone.

[Mall]

Made in Manhattan. Like, I don't know.

[Rory Malls]

What year are we in?

[Mall]

Great movie. Don't laugh. Made in Manhattan is a great movie. We're not laughing at Made in Manhattan. Great movie.

[Baby D]

You would like Matt Maiden.

[Mall]

I love that movie.

[Baby D]

What do you love about me?

[Mall]

Has JLO ever such a real story?

[Baby D]

You can see that happening. It's a Bronx Cinderella story.

[Mall]

Yeah, it is.

[Rory Malls]

Has she ever dated a black man in any movies? Jlo, them white men be putting her through hell in her rom com.

[Baby D]

Worse. Yeah. I started to like, kind of feel offended of how they try to typecast the white man that dates JLO in her career.

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[Baby D]

Like, only the main Manhattan was the only one where, like, homie was understanding.

[Mall]

Even after she l. Oh, nah, he was. I don't know how I want to frame this, but in Money Train, Wesley Snipes was dating her and Woody was like, yeah, okay. Cuz he took her from Woody.

[Baby D]

Yeah.

[Mall]

You know what I mean? So she. That's the black of the black. It don't get black. It don't get. I mean, it don't get blacker than Wesley. Wesley Snipes black. She dated Wesley Snipes. And Money Train.

[Baby D]

Jennifer Lopez film love interest.

[Mall]

Yes. Cuz I think Woody would like to. He had a crush on. And then, you know, she just. The chocolate, you know, they can't deny that chocolate.

[Baby D]

I mean, I felt some chemistry between her and Ice Cube on Anaconda.

[Mall]

No, you didn't. He was the cameraman.

[Baby D]

He was there for five minutes.

[Mall]

Yeah. You didn't feel no chemistry between them?

[Baby D]

Oh, this is television. JLO has a lot of great movies.

[Mall]

Y' all don't like Made in Manhattan for real?

[Baby D]

No, I really do like Made in Manhattan. I would just never guess that. You would love it.

[Mall]

I love that movie.

[Baby D]

Is that like your goodwill hunting?

[Mall]

No, goodwill hunting is like.

[Baby D]

That's for the whites.

[Mall]

Yeah. Yeah, but I made him out. Is it? You don't like Made A Man for Real?

[Baby D]

No, no, I do. I think it's great. Again, I don't think you don't like.

[Mall]

That movie, Baby D. No, I liked.

[Rory Malls]

It when I was younger.

[Mall]

He was too busy. Ass out Pink Tim. She ain't really.

[Rory Malls]

Anyway, I like yeah. More, but I liked it.

[Mall]

Good movie, too. Yeah.

[Baby D]

Wedding Planner is great. I mean, we can't see.

[Mall]

Is that her number one? What does it say? Number one? What? What?

[Rory Malls]

Ralphie in it.

[Mall]

Made in Manhattan. See?

[Baby D]

Well, I mean, does enough make the list? Like, what do we mean by love interest?

[Mall]

What do you mean enough?

[Rory Malls]

Enough the movie.

[Mall]

Oh, yeah. When she. Does that count as a going through domestic abuse? No, I don't think that's up there. I think these are more like. I think these feel good stories. These are feel good stories, Rory.

[Rory Malls]

But I'm. I'm happy that. That they're spinning the block on each other and giving their love one more chance. Like.

[Baby D]

Yeah, yeah. Mall made Manhattan to whites only. Further confirmed that we knew you tried our clothes on when we left the hotel.

[Mall]

That's.

[Baby D]

That's all it did for us.

[Mall]

Don't do that. Great movie.

[Baby D]

Too far.

[Mall]

Don't. Yeah, don't do that.

[Rory Malls]

All right.

[Mall]

Do we think Bad Bunny's gonna bring anybody out for the Super Bowl?

[Baby D]

We talked about this. I think J. Balvin. I think Cardi's coming out. Oh, no, we didn't know about the J. Balvin situation.

[Rory Malls]

I can't see Cardi coming out.

[Mall]

No, he's not bringing up him and Balvin and not really. On thinking on speaking terms right now.

[Baby D]

Carlos Santana.

[Mall]

No Super Bowl. Is Carlos Santana dead?

[Baby D]

I thought you about to say did he already do the Super Bowl? Because I think he actually already did. But yeah, I think we did get the Carlos Santana guitar riff at the super bowl once. I. I feel like I would know if. If the God was dead.

[Mall]

He's. Well, it was somebody that played with Carlos and Tana that died side like it was somebody close.

[Baby D]

A lot of people. Musicians on drugs.

[Mall]

My bad. I ain't mean to put that on Carlos Santana. The legendary Carlos Santana. Respectfully.

[Baby D]

Oh no, then he. All right then Bad Bunny can bring him out if he did the pre show.

[Mall]

Bad Bunny did the super bowl already.

[Rory Malls]

Oh, he did the one where Beyonce and Michelle and reunited. He did that one.

[Baby D]

Yeah.

[Rory Malls]

Okay.

[Mall]

Yeah, but Bad Bunny did the super bowl already.

[Baby D]

Halftime.

[Mall]

Yeah. No, was that Jaylon Shakira bought him out.

[Baby D]

No way.

[Mall]

In 20. What 20?

[Rory Malls]

Oh, I wouldn't be surprised.

[Baby D]

Malls in fact. Correct. Yeah. Jennifer Lopez and Shakira included guest appearances by Bad Bunny, J. Balvin and Lopez's daughter.

[Mall]

Yeah, Bad Bunny wasn't. I mean he was lit back then, but he obviously now he's a. He's a megastar. But yeah, they bought him out. I remember Brad.

[Baby D]

Nah, cuz that. And that was also. Hov was already he picked that, right? Hov did that one.

[Mall]

Yeah, that was the first year they offered.

[Baby D]

Now now I gotta pull some. Some flowers back with Hov you. You doubling back on Bad Bunny? You've only been in the. In this for four years and you repeat and guess what are you a club promoter?

[Rory Malls]

That's completely different up.

[Mall]

I mean he didn't have a. He didn't have a. That's crazy. He didn't have a whole set. But Jaylon Shakira definitely bought him out though.

[Baby D]

See to me, I mean of course course Bad Bunny is not like the one of the biggest artists, but nah, you can't. Well, it's been what, four years that ho's been doing this. 20, 25 years.

[Mall]

That was the year. I think Drake turned down that year because that was Covid year I think. I think he turned it down maybe a year or two before that as well. But then yeah, Jlo Shakira.

[Baby D]

But you know, there's too many artists to repeat.

[Mall]

Listen man, you know what it is? Bad Bunny, that thing, what he did was his residency in Puerto Rico. I mean I don't know how his fans feel though, because again, he didn't do any shows in the US because he was in fear of Ice being at his shows and arresting some of his fans and things like that. So now some of his fans feel away because, like, oh, you. But you do the Super Bowl.

[Rory Malls]

But the super bowl is. That's a completely. That's completely different.

[Mall]

What you mean Ice is saying they gonna be at the Super Bowl?

[Baby D]

I think they were gonna be there anyways.

[Rory Malls]

They were gonna be there anyway. And that's one show in comparison to one show. And the majority of the audience will not be of. Of Hispanic descent.

[Mall]

Oh, that will never happen. I don't care. They could have Bad Bunny J. Bout. They could have all of them. All of them could be there. Yeah, that audience in the super bowl is still gonna be predominantly white.

[Rory Malls]

Exactly.

[Baby D]

They could. Oh, they could open up with. With soccer before.

[Mall]

Yeah, that's just what it is.

[Rory Malls]

And this way he's able to give his. His US Fans. Fans a show that's cast that's, you know, streamed to them, and they don't have to pay a whole bunch of money for it. They don't have to pay any money for it. And.

[Baby D]

Yeah, well, I mean, if he's busy, maybe he brings out Shakira and jlo. We just not think the same thing.

[Mall]

This one to the face.

[Rory Malls]

Yeah, I think he's gonna do this one too.

[Mall]

Do I think he makes a political statement?

[Baby D]

Yeah. Yes, without question.

[Mall]

Okay.

[Baby D]

And I think. And I think. And I think he gets booed. I actually think Bad Bunny gets booed maybe before he makes a political statement. I kind of have. Okay, I think we'll see. He got booed. When cell phone footage comes out, I think they'll. They won't mic the actual crowd when the whole thing starts, I think you'll get just. They'll fill in with applause, but I think there'll be cell phone footage of, like, this was the real sound of the stadium. And I'm not booing bad, which I think is great. I'm talking about the demographic that goes to the fucking Super. Super Bowl.

[Mall]

What type of political statement do you think you'll make? Like, y' all think you'll have, like.

[Baby D]

He just told me I gotta learn Spanish. I'm not gonna understand the political statement.

[Mall]

No, I'm saying you think you have, like, gay dancers in Ice uniforms.

[Rory Malls]

The.

[Baby D]

Way Katy Perry did with Baby Shark.

[Mall]

That is fire. Let me tell you something. What is it on? What is the super bowl on Fox?

[Baby D]

I don't know.

[Mall]

This year, man, they gonna cut that feed so fast that gonna go to a Pepsi commercial, you know?

[Baby D]

There's a big difference between Fox and Fox News.

[Mall]

Different. Yo, whatever that is on. If Bad Bunny come out there with some gay dances and ICE uniforms, that is going to cut and go straight to a Budweiser commercial. I'm telling you right now, it's on Fox. They cutting that shit.

[Baby D]

I think the way. The way. The way the right is fired up right now. I think people will think they're heroes by paying insane prices just to go to boo Bad Bunny. I think that's how fired up the right.

[Mall]

Nah, you ain't got. They ain't. They ain't got that type of funding. Oh, no, actually they do. BLM might be there. No.

[Baby D]

Locked everyone up, did they?

[Mall]

No, Soros was still out.

[Baby D]

That's where he funneled the money wall. You don't understand money laundering.

[Rory Malls]

Once P start saying let's.

[Baby D]

Oh, I mean, we didn't say anything wrong. Come on, guys. We can have fun sometimes.

[Rory Malls]

Can we?

[Baby D]

Yeah, I think we can. I just don't think sometimes our listeners allow us to just make jokes because they think they're too serious.

[Rory Malls]

Oh, no. But some. Never mind.

[Baby D]

Do we have voicemails?

[Mall]

You've got mail.

[Baby D]

And of course, this is sponsored by Boost. Everyone called in from their Boost mobile phone.

[Caller Thomas]

Yo, what's up? Roy Malls Thomas from Chicago just kind of got a quick. I'm trying to make this quick as possible. So basically, I think I'm in love.

[Mall]

With my best friend.

[Caller Thomas]

She's a girl. And we've, like, been friends for, like, the past, like, two years or so. And we pretty much talk every day. Like, we're.

[Baby D]

We're.

[Caller Thomas]

We clutch as hell. Like, we're good. She lives all the way in Texas. I helped her move to Texas. She's from Chicago. But she's always had, like, terrible luck with niggas. Like, anytime she talked to A, he'd just be the most. Like, he'd just be a fucking doofus merch. Like, every time she talked to A, he's just always doing some goofy. She just always go for, like, the okie doke or whatever. And it's usually like, she'll let. Like, if A treats her nice, like, she'll go for it, whatever. And, like, I always hate that part about her. But, like, you know, I always talk to her like my.

[Mall]

Like my homegirl.

[Baby D]

Like, girl, what the you doing?

[Caller Thomas]

Stop tweaking on these dudes.

[Baby D]

Whatever.

[Caller Thomas]

And, you know, we always have this running joke of, like, you know, at 30, we'll get married. At 32, 35, we'll get married and stuff. And, you know, recently, like, I'm sort of been kind of like feeling like really, really wanting to do that because when we moved right up to move to Texas, we shared a hotel room and we like cuddled to go to sleep and you know, we almost like did it for real. Like we kissed and everything, but we didn't do it. We almost did about the friendship and that moment kind of really stuck with me. And that was like about like two months ago that that happened. But like, we still talked every day since then. But I think I'm. I think I love her. I think I'm in love with her. She loves me too. I don't know if she is in love with me back, but I guess. How should I deal with this? We kind of live states away. Yo, what's up, Roy? Your mom.

[Baby D]

Yo, I need, I need zoom zoom room. Like email him now. It's like, this is a zoom zoom room. I need, need so many more details. Like what happened after you guys almost did it? Which is also a hilarious. Oh, there's a, there's a follow up.

[Degree Cool Rush Announcer]

Yeah.

[Baby D]

Oh, let's hear the follow up.

[Caller Thomas]

Thomas here. So, yeah, part two, we kind of live states away and we, you know, we still talk on the phone every day. But there was. We, you know, like, we joke about, you know, getting married at 35, 30, whatever. I'm 27, she's 26. And you know, we make that joke about that all the time. And we even joke about, like, you know, what if we would've done it? What if we would have did it? You know, if we do it, like, will we fall in love with each other? And last night, you know, he was on the phone talking about it. He was like, yeah, no, like, if we ever do it, we should probably hold off on it because, like, if you fuck around, that might be it. Like, we fuck around, might fall in love for real. So, you know, granted, trying to be friends as long as possible. And it's not like I'm trying to rush being in a relationship with her and she's not trying to rush being in a relationship with me. Because I feel like, I ain't gonna lie, if I feel like we get into a relationship, that's gonna be it. Like, that's gonna be my wife for real. Because, like, you know, I love all the qualities about her as a person. I feel like she loves all the qualities about me as a guy. And, you know, like, we just might be a perfect match for each other, but because we live states away you know, whatever. So I'm a tattoo artist. She's like a teacher. And so I'm trying to figure out a way to make this make or I think, you know, we should just both live our lives. And if it comes together so that we do get together, then we should do that. So I guess what I'm trying to ask is, like, how would you deal with this situation? Do you just kind of let. Let love just like love each other as you. As you are right now, and if it ever happens, it happens, or, you know, like, I don't want it to ever be like, what could have been type shit, you know?

[Mall]

Thomas, first. First of all, stop saying do it like this is not a Nike ad. You could just say, oh, you know, we almost trying to do the dirty deed. We almost made love. She made love. Thomas, go ahead and get your wife, man. Y' all love each other. Y' all best friends. Y' all have known each other for years. You a tattoo artist, you could tattoo anywhere, yo, you can go to whatever city she's in, move there and get a booth at a tattoo shop. And you know what I mean? I know you gotta get your clientele back or whatever, but, you know, if your work is. If your work is good, the clients will find you. But don't let the distance.

[Baby D]

Don't listen to this man. I purposely cut them all off this time. This wasn't one of those where I just cut off because I'm an idiot. I had to cut them off. Thomas, you seem like a really, really nice guy. Guy. I don't want you to get hurt. That girl don't like you.

[Rory Malls]

No, she don't, baby.

[Baby D]

She don't like you at all. Don't listen to Maul.

[Mall]

How did y' all get that?

[Baby D]

Get y' all life up over this girl that clearly does not like you.

[Mall]

But why do you say she don't like him?

[Baby D]

They made out. They stopped any more physical stuff and went back to this jokey joke. What if we did it? Oh, we maybe just fall too much in love. She's keeping him on ice cuz she wants to keep with other dudes that are way shittier. And she's playing the long game. If she ends up being 35 years old, he'll be the nice guy that I end up with that, you know, has a steady job.

[Rory Malls]

You think you're like a man. Women don't play the long game. Women do not play the long game. Men play the long game. Women do not play the long game. If she wanted that Nigga. She would be with that nigga right now.

[Baby D]

That's. But that's what I'm saying. She doesn't want to be with him. She's keeping him around just in case.

[Rory Malls]

No, I think she's keeping around because she likes him as a friend. I'm sure she's thought about sleeping with you and she's thought about it, but. But she don't really want to. And if she does do it, I guarantee you it's like, oh, well, I mean, he's here and he's great. He's a good guy, and this is that. But she's not. She don't want you like that. She doesn't. If she did, she would move on that, especially because it's you saying, like, I'm in love with her. She knows you're in love with her. Women always know.

[Baby D]

We.

[Rory Malls]

We might pretend we don't know. She knows.

[Mall]

So he's too much of a good guy for her.

[Rory Malls]

No, I don't. I'm not saying that that's why she doesn't like him. I'm saying she just doesn't like him. Why she doesn't like him, I don't know, but she doesn't like him in that way.

[Baby D]

Well, he did start the first voicemail out saying that her type seems to be guys that, you know, are kind of pieces of.

[Rory Malls]

To some, she says she runs into pieces of. That doesn't mean it's your type.

[Baby D]

You can. I know, I know. I'm not trying to put any bad taste in men or going through that phase. I'm not here to on her whatsoever. I'm just trying to tell Thomas that that girl does not like you like that.

[Mall]

I don't.

[Baby D]

And she's keeping you at bay, and I don't know if that's a. Even a good friend T tactic.

[Mall]

She don't like him like that, though. I'm not gonna say that. I'm gonna say she don't want to cross that line because they're best friends. He said, right. They've been best friends for years. I think she doesn't want to cross that line and make it physical, But I'm not gonna say she doesn't cuddle with him.

[Rory Malls]

She wouldn't have kissed him.

[Baby D]

Yeah. And they already talked about the marriage at 35 at that point, like, yeah.

[Mall]

But that's what I'm saying. So I think that she likes him. I just think that, you know, it's like, damn, this is my best friend. It's like, I. I don't think she doesn't like him. Like, we're always saying, that girl don't like you. I don't. I don't believe. I think she does like him.

[Baby D]

I don't think. I don't think every friendship is the plot to Brown Sugar. Like, I just think that girl would. They would be together if she wanted that.

[Degree Cool Rush Announcer]

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[Mall]

They live.

[Baby D]

That's all he wants, clearly, which is fine. Like, I think that's great that he loves his best friend and wants to be with her. I think that's a great foundation to a relationship. But that girl would do that. Then she definitely, after making out with him, felt like, nah, this isn't it.

[Rory Malls]

This ain't it.

[Baby D]

This is not it.

[Rory Malls]

Let me try it. It was probably awesome. Let me try it. Like, it's.

[Baby D]

I don't think it was bad in it.

[Rory Malls]

I love him, but it's not. Like, I just. Ain't it. I can't. And that's. That's.

[Baby D]

It didn't feel like how I thought it was gonna feel, especially because we're so close and friends.

[Mall]

Like, get him in the room, man.

[Baby D]

Get. No, that's why. Yeah, that.

[Rory Malls]

Get her in the room so that we clear this up. He don't know.

[Baby D]

The moment she finds out he said this on a podcast, that might ruin their friendship. She don't seem. I don't know. I don't.

[Mall]

Well, let's get a minute. Let's. Let's get more of the backstory. Let's get more information from Thomas. Let's have him. Have him in the Zoom Zoom room so we can kind of grill him a little bit and get more information on what's happening with these two best friends. See if he's gonna prove if men and women can be best friends and only best friends.

[Rory Malls]

Well, he's not gonna prove that because he already disproved. He's in love with her.

[Baby D]

Yeah. Out the gate, he looks.

[Rory Malls]

The rest of us look. He makes the rest of us look bad.

[Mall]

Yeah, but they're not. They're not. They haven't been physical.

[Baby D]

All right? They're friends where one person wants to be with the friend. Yeah. Like, they're not just, like, platonic friends. One is actively trying to be with the other one that's not a friend.

[Mall]

I don't know. Is he actively trying to be with her? I don't know if he's actively trying to be.

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If.

[Baby D]

If she. I'm sure in the conversations, he's being respectful because he seems like a nice guy, but if she Would say, hey, yes, let's actually try this. He would say yes, right?

[Rory Malls]

Oh, immediately. Yeah.

[Baby D]

It's not like he would be like, nah, let's actually wait to see if this works out or whatever. He would be like, yes, let's go into a full. Okay.

[Mall]

Yeah. But I.

[Rory Malls]

Let's. Let's.

[Mall]

Let's talk to Thomas. I think Thomas is gonna be like, yo, ma, you was right. I think she likes him. I think the distance, living in different states.

[Rory Malls]

He don't know if she like him or not.

[Mall]

He don't know that. He know they talking every day. This is best friend. You think he don't know if she like him? It's just. They probably just the distance. He probably. He already said, like, yo, we trying to figure it out. Like, I'm a tattoo artist. She's a teacher. Like, she lives there. I live here. Like, so they're having these conversations like, she likes him. But again, it's, you know, probably hesitant.

[Rory Malls]

Because she's like, she could also be bored. She just moved to a new place. She could also just be bored. She like. Like moving to a new place. You basically in jail. That's jail talk you can have.

[Mall]

No, not for a woman, though. For guys. Different woman. All y' all got to do is put that one dress heels on, go to that local bar, and y' all know every in town.

[Rory Malls]

That's not real life.

[Mall]

That's one night. Y' all know every in town. We gotta go out a few times to meet some women.

[Baby D]

A couple times, though.

[Mall]

Yeah. We gotta go out. We gotta hit the spots.

[Baby D]

Mo, do you think if two people laid in the hotel, cuddled, made out, had known each other for a long time, continued to talk, and both wanted to be each other, they wouldn't pull the trigger to spend more time together in person if both people wanted that.

[Mall]

I mean, it's subjective. What's the circumstances?

[Baby D]

They live in different states. Teachers and tattoo artists, you know, make money to be able to go see people. I think if that was really something that they wanted, instead of being pen pals, I know he pull the trigger the next day to go see her.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Baby D]

In her town and be in the hotel or her crib or whatever.

[Mall]

All right, we going have she.

[Baby D]

She just not doing that.

[Mall]

We going to have him. We going to talk to him soon. We going to have him in the room. Bring them to the room now.

[Baby D]

We got to bring them to. To the studio for the live stream.

[Mall]

Hold on. We gotta. We don't know. We. Let's talk to the Gentleman first. Matt. We knew. We saw he was cool. He was a little laid back. We don't know what.

[Baby D]

Thomas, Matt will show up to this. To the studio. I'm sorry. Thomas will show up to the studio. Elevator doors open. There was never a girl.

[Rory Malls]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Mall]

Like, we gotta. We gotta. We gotta vet this thing.

[Baby D]

Kill us all.

[Mall]

Yeah. So, yeah, let's get him in the zooms room for sure.

[Baby D]

All right, well, this. This was fun. We have. We have another episode that we're about to do now. We don't know when it's gonna come out out though. See how. Let's see how it goes.

[Mall]

Interesting guest.

[Baby D]

Very interesting.

[Mall]

This.

[Baby D]

This could be interesting guess for baby D2 with her alliances.

[Mall]

Oh, I didn't even. I didn't even. You did the science and the math on that one.

[Baby D]

Listen, man.

[Mall]

Okay, all right, well, let's get to that. And we'll. We'll get that episode out to the people soon because hopefully it'll be a fun, interesting conversation. Some answers or we'll find some answers. All it be absolutely crazy. Either way, y' all gonna get it. So. So we'll talk to y' all soon. Be safe, be blessed. I'm that nigga. He's just ginger. Peace.

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[Rory Malls]

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