New Rory & MAL — Episode 417 | "Over/Under"

Release Date: October 24, 2025
Hosts: Rory, Mal (MAL), Damaris

Episode Overview

This lively episode of New Rory & MAL weaves through the hosts’ signature blend of personal banter, hot takes, and uncensored humor—with an emphasis on the current NBA gambling scandal, personal anecdotes, and playful speculation on sports, music festivals, and relationships. From clowning on failed late-night hook-ups to pondering if Michael Jordan's new NBA coverage is AI-generated, the crew delivers both hilarity and insight, making for an engaging listen for sports fans and pop culture enthusiasts alike.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Studio Banter and Opening Laughs (02:30–05:45)

• The "Pickle Tickle" Story:
  Early on, Rory and Mal riff about Damaris refusing to let "Peach" upstairs after a late-night drop-off. She "dubbed" him despite the romantic gesture.

  • Notable Quote:
    • “You bring the key card, get your pickle tickled.” – Rory (04:00)

• Pre-Recording Rituals and Vibes:
  Jokes about coming in happy (“like, Maddox, like, happy to be here”) and trying to “get the morale going up.”

  • “I try to do that. Like, I try to, like, work myself up to be happy.” – Rory (02:46)

2. Upcoming Plans & Hip-Hop Cruise Anticipation (07:30–14:05)

• Rock the Bells Hip-Hop Cruise:
  MAL is set to attend, marking his first cruise experience—a “hip-hop cruise” featuring acts like The LOX, The Brat, Juvenile, Lupe Fiasco, and Jazzy Jeff.

  • Playful Anxiety:
    • “International waters, Lupe Fiasco with a samurai sword... I’m petrified.” – Mal (09:28)
    • “He’ll probably be protecting the boat... it’ll be like Steven Seagal’s on the ship.” – Rory (09:31)
  • On-Boat Shenanigans:
    • Damaris: “Back that ass up on the cruise, you got to pull your own thong to the side.” (10:33)
    • Rory: “Keep your thongs centered.” (10:39)

• Other Festival Chat:
  Damaris is heading to Atlanta’s ONE Music Fest (Future, Jasmine Sullivan, Kehlani, Mary J. Blige, etc.), and the crew discusses which festivals have the best R&B/hip-hop lineups.

  • Mall expresses no love for Vegas festivals:
    • “Vegas is just—whoo. That city was designed to kill you... mentally, spiritually, financially.” – Rory (16:36)

3. The NBA Gambling Scandal Deep Dive (17:00–31:34)

[Main Segment — 17:00–31:34]

• Breaking News:
  Hosts react live to news of NBA figures (Chauncey Billups, Damon Jones, Terry Rozier) being arrested for illegal gambling and sports rigging, reflecting on Gilbert Arenas’ public comments about cooperating with authorities.

  • Notable Quotes:
    • “I am not calling Gilbert Arenas a snitch. Gilbert Arenas said himself that he is snitching.” – Rory (19:51)
    • “Operation Nothing But Net has commenced. And you niggas is going to jail.” – Rory (19:59)
  • Mob Involvement & Insider Bets:
    • Breakdown of how insiders were cashing in: “...leaving the game early with an injury... those bets paid out tens of thousands...” (22:08)
    • “There are two separate indictments. The defendants leveraged their connections to place prop bets based on confidential insider information.” – Rory (20:48)

• Broader Implications:
  Discussion of inside information, point shaving, and integrating mafia connections with game outcomes.

  • Reflective Insight:
    • “This is going to get serious... This doesn’t surprise me. Once gambling became legal... it’s just more opportunity for players to throw games...” – Rory (23:03–26:18)
  • Questioning Integrity:
    • “Do you get rid of sports betting? That’s not happening.” – Rory (59:07)
    • “It changes the integrity, though... How much do we feel like our favorite players are not just pawns in a bigger thing?” – Rory (59:46)

4. Michael Jordan: A.I., Gambling, and Legacy (43:51–50:11)

• NBC’s Jordan Halftime Segments:
  Rory speculates if Michael Jordan’s new NBA broadcasts are actually AI-generated.

  • Notable Quotes:
    • “I have a theory that... Michael Jordan is not real. That’s AI.” – Rory (44:32)
    • “It’s too clean. The makeup is... Look at Mike.” (46:38)
  • Debate over authenticity, logistics, and how the NBA still relies on MJ’s image to capture attention.

• Gambling and the Hall of Fame:
  Separation between players betting on themselves versus against, with the classic Pete Rose argument revisited:

  • “If you’ve done anything to jeopardize the integrity of the sport... that might get you kicked out of the Hall of Fame.” — Rory (37:52)
  • “But I do feel like Pete Rose should be in the Hall of Fame. Because he bet on himself.” — Mal (37:30)

5. Over/Under: Sports, Hip-Hop, and Degenerate Gambling (36:13–52:01)

• Gambling on Anything:
  The guys riff on how bets now exist for anything—even how many times Taylor Swift will be shown at an NFL game:
  • “At what point if you are the cameraman at an NFL game, like... ‘One more time, man!’” – Mal (36:13)
  • Hip-Hop Bookmaking:
    • Speculation on “over/under” for album sales, reality show competitions (“Rhythm + Flow”), even Love Is Blind outcomes.

6. Relationships & Lies: Throwback Stories (73:10–82:34)

• Listener Voicemail:
  D from Jersey, a cop, shares a wild burglary “cover story” involving infidelity and asks for the wildest lies the crew ever tried to get away with.
  • Notable Quotes:
    • “She ain’t even. Ain’t nothing missing. Like what? Other than a nut, nothing’s missing.” – Damaris (76:08)
  • Craziest Lies:
    • Rory: “I think we’ve all lied on—said one of our relatives died or something... but I do it with relatives that actually died.” (76:46)
    • Damaris: Classic “snowball gave me a hickey” story. (78:25–79:17)
  • Hickeys & High School:
    • “A hickey was like, yo, I just had sex.” – Rory (80:01)

7. Real Talk: Dating "Bum Chicks" and Old Head Wisdom (52:31–57:15)

• Hilarious takes on dating partners without jobs or direction.
  • Mal: “Or have you ever let the bum chicken stay in your crib and it's cool for a week? And then you start realizing, like, she's not pursuing any options. You start talking to her like the unemployment office...” (53:41)
  • Rory: “That bum pussy hit sometimes, though.” (53:11)

8. Betting Lines and Podcaster Prop Bets (86:41–88:18)

• Meta-Betting:
  The crew jokes about creating an underground podcast gambling ring, suggesting over/unders on things like Rory missing episodes or saying words wrong.
  • “I might throw a few pods.” – Mall (86:55)
  • Damaris: “If you into that serious betting, hit my line. Them betting bullshit. Put the house up.” (87:40)
  • “Let’s have the listeners and the viewers make up the podcast gambling stuff.” – Rory (87:18)

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On NBA Scandal:

  • “This is Gilbert’s words... I'm snitching.” – Rory [19:09]
  • “You bring the key card, get your pickle tickled.” – Rory [04:00]

• On Cruises & Aunties:

  • “I'm excited to meet the aunties...” – Mall (11:16)
  • “Tell my aunties I said what's happening.” – Rory (11:20)

• On Michael Jordan:

  • “I think it's his likeness... I think that, you know, he answered those questions. Obviously, it's his real answers. But I don't know if this footage is real, Mike.” – Rory (46:18)
  • “He still got the yellow henny eyes, though.” – Mall (46:41)

• On Post-Hookup:

  • “That bum pussy hit sometimes, though.” – Rory (53:11)

Timestamps for Key Segments

• Studio Banter & ‘Pickle Tickle’: [02:30–05:45]
• Rock the Bells/Upcoming Festivals: [07:30–14:05]
• NBA Gambling Scandal Discussion: [17:00–31:34]
• Michael Jordan: AI & Legacy: [43:51–50:11]
• Meta-Betting (Podcast Games): [86:41–88:18]
• Listener’s Wildest Lie Story: [73:10–82:34]

Tone and Language

Raw, funny, irreverent, and candid as always—New Rory & MAL take a “barbershop talk” tone, not shying away from roasting each other or current headlines, while weaving in their POV as hip-hop fans and sports heads.

For First-Time Listeners

Even without insider basketball knowledge, this episode is wildly entertaining—balancing current events with personal storytelling and conversational mischief. Whether you care about NBA investigations or just want to laugh at tales of late-night escapades, “Over/Under” offers a relatable peek at friendship, sports fandom, and the chaos of modern life.