Episode 418 | Class Act

Summary

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New Rory & Mal – Episode 418 | "Class Act"

Release Date: October 28, 2025
Hosts: Mal & Baby D
Produced by: iHeartPodcasts and The Volume

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Episode Overview

In this lively and nostalgia-filled episode, Mal and Baby D hold it down without Rory (who’s away on a cruise), diving into stories from the Atlanta One Music Fest, the Cash Money vs. No Limit "versus", Megan Thee Stallion’s latest video, the state of hip hop, Keke Palmer’s new series, and even some talk about the NBA season. The vibes are as irreverent and unfiltered as ever, with the duo riffing on music history, rap’s "pussy rap" era, pop culture controversies, and the evolution of sex and artistic expression in hip hop.

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Major Discussion Topics & Insights

1. Recap: Atlanta, One Music Fest & Party Misadventures

• Baby D shares her Atlanta trip to the One Music Fest:
  • "I overdid it bro... I blacked out, I do not remember how I got home… I just remember Kehlani and then waking up in the bed at five o’clock in the morning." (05:32)
  • Hennessy activations, VIP, Cutwater cocktails, and missing parts of the festival.
• Reflects on hip hop and R&B icons seen/ missed:
  • "Apparently Ray J, Pleasure P, Bo Bobby Valentino, and Sammy have a group called RSVP…they did a good job. No, Ray J mic wasn’t on—but that’s whatever, right?" (06:20)
  • Conversation on R&B guys all being "short and stocky" (Baby D jokes about their height, (06:50)).
• Post-fest shenanigans: Vlogging while blackout drunk; creates unintentional snippets of “the sky.” (06:01)

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2. Cultural Nostalgia: Baby Showers & Security

• Mal recounts going to a baby shower, surprised to see security outside:
  • "Usually it’s your cousin’s there, somebody got it on him just in case… But security at a baby shower? Now I understood. This is the era of social media; exes pull up… now the ex pull up mad..." (11:10)
  • Both hosts poke fun at the changing social climate and heightened tensions at even wholesome events.

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3. Hip Hop Nostalgia: Cash Money vs. No Limit at ComplexCon

• The Venue Disappointment:
  • "Why was this in Las Vegas ComplexCon? ...This had to be in New Orleans. We were supposed to do this at the Superdome." (13:28)
• Missing Legends:
  • “No Lil Wayne, no Turk... How invested am I at that point?" (15:10)
  • Played Wayne’s verses but not the same as a live appearance.
• Who won?
  • "I felt like No Limit won… the records just hit a little different." (15:30)
• On Master P:
  • "We didn’t pause long enough to salute Master P. Master P played in the NBA – he was out there, he looked good, he can play basketball." (17:00)
  • Playful comparison: “Was he better than Bronny?” "Nah, Bronny would destroy Master P." (19:36)
• Feelings on JD vs. Puff battle never happening:
  • "JD would be the underdog, but…we gotta go Brat, Kris Kross, Bow Wow—he got real songs with Biggie, Lil Kim…" (22:17)

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4. "Pussy Rap", Megan Thee Stallion, & Sexuality in Hip Hop

• New Megan Thee Stallion Video – “Lover Girl”:
  • "She’s a pussy rapper and she loves the pussy aesthetic… the opening shot is alluding to vaginal aesthetics, right?" (27:35 / 28:15)
  • “Kissing You is a double entendre. Now you talking my language.” (28:31)
  • Hosts reflect on the push-pull of explicit content versus metaphorical sexual expression.
• Sexual Expression in Rap: Then vs. Now:
  • Baby D: "Don’t make me feel bad about WAP when there were credit cards getting slid in between people’s ass cracks…" (61:33)
  • Mal: "Lil’ Kim’s ‘Hardcore’ poster shook up the culture like crack rock..." (56:58)
  • Differences from the 90s/00s icons (Lil’ Kim, Trina), to current explicitness.
  • Respect for cleverness and metaphor: "We just need to kinda dress it up a little more as hip hop, as rap. Put a little more skill…" (64:14)

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5. The Decline or Evolution of Hip Hop?

• Fewer hip hop tracks on global charts:
  • "In September only four hip hop songs were on a global chart... Five years ago, there were fifty-six." (39:55)
• Baby D disagrees that women are “dominating” rap:
  • "Women are not dominating rap. There are more women hip hop stars than ever before, but that doesn’t mean they’re dominating, because there’s still way more men." (40:17)
• Taking soul out of hip hop:
  • "We took the R&B out of hip hop, the soulfulness…that’s what made it more palatable to other genres." (41:30)
• On streaming & social media changing music consumption:
  • "The phone is killing music... The phone takes away from the music experience as much as I love it… but it definitely has taken us away from experiencing music the way we used to." (45:28)
  • "Songs live longer on social media than they do in your home or car." (47:34)
• Music industry now rewards attention over talent:
  • "No one's looking for the quality... there’s no quality control. What they're looking for is who has the attention." (49:35)

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6. Pop Culture: Keke Palmer & Representation

• Keke Palmer’s show 'Southern Fried Rice' backlash:
  • Baby D: "Out of all the perspectives that you can write from, you’re black and you have the opportunity to tell stories, instead of telling our story, you tell the story of an Asian American in a black person’s space… People are saying that it’s tone deaf." (71:52)
  • Mal: “Keke’s done stories for us... Here comes Keke Palmer giving us something different, it’s still HBCU, our culture is the focus, just from a different lens... I don’t have a victim mentality. Let me see what this is before I go online and start stomping Keke out…” (73:38 – 78:03)

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7. NBA Season & Victor Wembanyama

• "Wemby is an Alien:"
  • "One of them now playing in San Antonio. He's 7 foot 6, speaks French, can do everything… his balance, his feel for the game—he's just fun to watch because we've never seen anything like this." (83:39 – 85:03)
  • High praise, predicted as a future all-time great if his body holds up.
• Knicks and general NBA banter: Injury updates, playful sports ignorance from Baby D.

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8. Listener Voicemails & Relationship Advice

• Advice for a Syracuse transplant looking to meet women:
  • Baby D offers to play matchmaker: "Light skin cute, big titties… in school to be a nurse… DM me." (92:13)
  • Mal: "R&B night is a good night to find women. If she’s singing a little too hard when that Mary comes on, she overly going, I can fix her." (92:55)
• Second voicemail: Unrequited love with best friend long-distance story; both hosts suggest respect, caution, and listening for genuine signals. (98:34 – 102:03)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

| Time | Segment/Topic | |-------------|------------------------------------------------------------------| | 03:44 | Baby D recaps Atlanta/One Music Fest adventure | | 06:50 | R&B male height “short and stocky” funny riff | | 11:10 | Baby shower with security; social media impacts on events | | 13:28 | Cash Money vs. No Limit “versus” discussion | | 15:30 | No Limit judged the winner, weighing in on missing Wayne/Turk | | 17:00 | Appreciating Master P’s NBA moment | | 22:17 | On JD’s catalog; why JD vs. Puff didn’t happen | | 27:35-28:15 | Megan Thee Stallion’s new video: explicit visual analysis | | 39:55 | Only four hip hop tracks on global charts, industry shift | | 41:30 | Baby D: R&B hooks once made hip hop more global | | 45:28-47:34 | How streaming/social media shortened music lifespans | | 56:58 | Lil Kim’s “Hardcore” poster & 90s sexuality compared to today | | 61:33 | Fire back at WAP critics: 90s were also explicit | | 64:14 | Call for artistry: “Dress it up a little more as hip hop, as rap”| | 71:52 | Keke Palmer ‘Southern Fried Rice’ controversy | | 83:39-85:03 | Victor Wembanyama: Next NBA megastar? | | 92:13 | Listener advice: dating life in Syracuse | | 98:34 | Love advice: visiting best friend, reading the signals |

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Notable Quotes

• "I blacked out… I do not remember how I got home." – Baby D, on festival overindulgence (05:32)
• "No Lil Wayne, no Turk… How invested am I at that point?" – Mal, on Cash Money versus (15:10)
• "We didn’t pause long enough to salute Master P." – Mal (17:00)
• "She’s a pussy rapper and she loves the pussy aesthetic." – Mal, on Megan Thee Stallion (28:40)
• "We took the R&B out of hip hop… that’s what made it more palatable." – Baby D (41:30)
• "The phone is killing music… It takes away from the music experience." – Mal (45:28)
• "Out of all the perspectives… you tell the story of an Asian American in a black person’s space?" – Baby D on Keke Palmer’s show (71:52)
• "One of them now playing San Antonio. He’s seven foot six, speaks French, can do everything…" – Mal on Victor Wembanyama (83:39)

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Tone & Style

• Relatable, lively, and very conversational.
• Plenty of humorous banter and cultural references.
• Candid on music’s explicit evolution, the importance of cleverness, and generational differences in pop culture.
• Strong undercurrent of nostalgia mixed with critical takes on modern hip hop, music industry shifts, and societal changes.

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Ideal For:

• Listeners interested in hip hop nostalgia, pop culture commentary, candid relationship talk, and unfiltered music industry insights.
• Fans of Megan Thee Stallion, vintage R&B/hip hop, and those following the evolving conversation about authenticity and representation in entertainment.

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Next Episode Tease:
Mal and Baby D preview more Patreon shenanigans, a movie date, and continued answers to listener voicemails. Expect more laughs and insight as the series continues.

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Transcript

[Baby D]

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[Baby D]

Worry and now five four three two one who do we appreciate or no that's ten that's one how did i go five six seven yeah.

[Co-host]

Go to atlanta boy i'm telling you telling you the education down there just it kind of bleeds into you don't it yeah that just seeps into you don't it.

[Baby D]

No i was really.

[Co-host]

You was over there struggling like this is the number that rhyme would appreciate oh damn yo what's up baby d fresh off atlanta.

[Baby D]

What like don't stop why are we coming in on my why we not.

[Co-host]

Coming in on your no because i'm just saying like you just you just got in fresh out the airport smelling like flights and hotels i know that.

[Baby D]

Phrase hotel i'm not i ain't not.

[Co-host]

No hotels oh my bad my bad i forgot what's happening now my bad baby g i forgot how you feeling.

[Baby D]

Though i'm feeling good i went out there to go to one music fest.

[Co-host]

Yeah you did tell us that yeah.

[Baby D]

I went out who phone ringing yours.

[Co-host]

Your phone who's gonna answer it answer the phone man answer the who is that hello who is that who is that moss give me the phone now i'll call you later move man nah don't do that yo why you hanging up that's crazy cause you was about to go crazy like yo who phone ringing your phone ringing so now that you answered let me say hello fuck no put this shit out work try to make sure you where you said you was supposed to be you gotta.

[Baby D]

Chill you really gotta chill i wasn't.

[Co-host]

Though i was atlanta so one music.

[Baby D]

Fest was cool but i overdid it i overdid it bro i i how.

[Co-host]

You overdo it at an r b.

[Baby D]

Festival well first of all it was rap there too yeah it wasn't just r and b i saw warren g perform i ain't g ever shout out to warren g yeah so future was the headliner like it was hip hop.

[Co-host]

Yeah oh okay you was you was outside with the yeah they had dungeon.

[Baby D]

Family performing okay i didn't make it to none of them though because after kaylani which was at seven o' clock.

[Co-host]

Oh okay i have i was all you wanted to see so i went.

[Baby D]

To the i was in the vip i went to the hennessy little activation that they had was that where where you was at the hennessy activation where.

[Co-host]

You was at where was the hennessy.

[Baby D]

It was in vip okay get your off okay so i went into the hennessy activation and they were serving like hennessy strawber lemonades and hennessy espresso martinis and they were like in big like big ass cups and i'm just like oh just sip it sip it sip it i had forgot i was off.

[Co-host]

The cut water earlier what's cut water.

[Baby D]

So cut water is like a cocktail.

[Co-host]

In a can okay oh okay yeah.

[Baby D]

Yeah yeah so it was like a lemon it's eleven percent alcohol so it's not just like you know the little five not a bu yeah no so that mixed with the three hennessy cocktails i blacked out i do not remember how i got home i don't remember getting in the uber i don't remember getting home taking my clothes off getting to bed nothing i just remember kehlani and then waking up in the bed at five o' clock in the morning.

[Co-host]

Wow so you don't know how one music festival went no no and i.

[Baby D]

Caught myself vlogging like i have little clips where i caught myself vlogging like.

[Co-host]

I was like oh i can't can.

[Baby D]

I see those i was recording the sky i sort of got and i.

[Co-host]

Was like you laid out you passed out on your back like what you.

[Baby D]

Bro bro but it was a it was a good time the festival was in piedmont park in atlanta which is huge it was a huge huge venue and they had a lot of a lot of people apparently ray j pleasure p bo bobby valentino and sammy have a group called rsvp yeah remember they.

[Co-host]

Did they when they was that that wasn't a version did they do a versus together remember they was on stage and remember you don't remember that you don't you don't i think it was at the novo theater novo theater in la oh okay you don't remember when ray j was on they was all.

[Baby D]

On stage no i don't remember but when i knew that they were all performing together but rsvp sent me yeah.

[Co-host]

That'S when they that's when they said the name of the the group rsvp we spoke about that i think we did speak about that when they were.

[Baby D]

Performing i came to realize why are r b so short and stocky they all short like them together all put together don't hit seven feet like now i'm dead ass they were all standing i'm like all of you are mad sure i mean they did a good job no ray j mike wasn't on but i mean that's whatever right to be expected he's like rage is a.

[Co-host]

Legend though he is rage is a.

[Baby D]

Legend yeah that mic sounded just like the track he did not i don't.

[Co-host]

Think he whispered a word before we go any further we are back and sponsored by boost mobile unlimited talk text data and espresso hennessy espresso martinis for baby d rory is not here today baby d doesn't it feel like we it feel black there's no oppression in the room right no oppressors no oppressors rory is on the rock the bell's cruise he's listening to the locks as he crosses the mediterranean sea right now i mean i don't know where they at but yes hopefully he's having a good time nothing but under armor long sleeve dry fits in his suitcase so he had to carry on and bottles.

[Baby D]

Of wine you know you could bring your own wine on the cruise can you you could pay to bring it.

[Co-host]

Bring bottles of wine wait what you can bring alcohol on a cruise you.

[Baby D]

Can bring bottles of wine yeah wait.

[Co-host]

Why you keep saying it's just wine.

[Baby D]

Yeah i think so i don't think.

[Co-host]

You could bring liquor i mean that's.

[Baby D]

All i can do you can bring.

[Co-host]

Like a bottle of wine yeah one or you can bring multiple bottles of.

[Baby D]

Wine i'm not sure it depends on the cruise line wow some people sneak them on like sneak things i never.

[Co-host]

Knew that you can bring some alcohol on a cruise but it depends on the cruise line and the type of alcohol most lines allow you to bring one or two bot or champagne per person in your carry on luggage okay so yeah we going with somebody on a cruise you bring a bottle i bring a bottle we good okay i didn't know that all right so he's definitely having a good time having a ball yeah he's having a blast but today it's the it's just us it's the it ain't been us in a while it ain't never been us this the first time it's been just i mean we did half of a patreon.

[Baby D]

We did a full patreon together we did at the at our very first.

[Co-host]

Studio baby i don't remember that you know yeah you know mine that's what.

[Baby D]

I told you i was gonna name my son nasir carter.

[Co-host]

I remember now yeah i will never forget when you.

[Baby D]

Told me that i'm not gonna do it no more because y' all call me all types of ghetto bitches but.

[Co-host]

All right but how do you feel do you still stand firm on that.

[Baby D]

I think that that's a nice name i think i'm setting him up for like to be you know powerful.

[Co-host]

What else because if we go talk about the name like let's talk about it because my mom and pop set me up i had to find a way my name muslim that's why you podcasted yeah exactly get sold drugs or crack rock which one you want me to do podcast or crack rock exactly let's do podcast what you did this weekend.

[Baby D]

You worried about what me and rory.

[Co-host]

Did what you did this weekend my cousin had a baby shower oh it was the funniest thing so i pulled up to the venue so where it was i used to hang out there cause it used to be like a spot like it was a strip club on that block that we used to go to and so i get there i'm like i ain't been on this side of town in a minute so we get there so my my boy is dropping me off and we drive past the spot and it's a dude outside he got a security shirt on he got a scully and a shiesty on so i'm like hold up so i'm looking at the address he's standing right in front of the the number on the door where i'm supposed to go so i'm like i'm like yo bro circle around one more time because now now i'm texting like yo what's the address again cause i ain't never seen security at a baby shop outside of a baby shop usually it's your cousin's there somebody got it on him just in case so we get back and i'm like yo this is the spot so i'm like i told my boy so he laughing so i walk in i was expecting homie to ask for id cause i walked up i'm like yo what's up he was like what's good but he act like he wasn't opening the door so i'm like he's like oh you going in i'm like you think i'm walking up to say hello to you like yeah i'm going in the baby shower he let me in or whatever so when i get in i hadn't met my cousin's boyfriend yet i never met him so when i get in i don't see nobody i recognize so now i'm really feeling like i'm in the wrong spot yeah so then i look and then i saw my sister my pops my sister my moms they was like towards the back so i'm like okay cool but it was cool it was a.

[Baby D]

Cool but why was security there you.

[Co-host]

Still have dykes but think about it though shit goes down at baby showers yo that being your next the black cast today we can talk the white man ain't here we can kick it you don't see why there would be a need for security security at the baby shower i mean i get it you move on yeah homie mad oh.

[Baby D]

It gotta be no it's security at.

[Co-host]

My baby shower he find out today is your shower he gonna know where it's at everybody posting you know how this era is everybody could find anybody yeah so now the ex pull up and he decide that he mad and now he wanna yeah yeah so that's so the shisty outside explains everything now now i understood cause i thought about it when i got in i was like i never saw security at a baby shower before makes one hundred percent sense now and when i sat down and thought about it i said you know what we got enough social media to know these things happen at baby shower somebody pull up ex girlfriend pull up she got her cousins with her.

[Baby D]

So your cousin pussy good is what i'm hearing that's what i heard that's.

[Co-host]

What i heard baby dad that's what i heard i have never thought about.

[Baby D]

That at any point if it was anybody else and you seen security at the baby shower you'd be like ah that red snapper or i don't know.

[Co-host]

I don't know how her boyfriend seems like a cool guy he seems like a nice guy maybe he in the streets i don't know you know clean up at the baby shower niggas put on they best shirt they best pants get a nice cut he might be in the streets he might have beat the ops might be ready to run down on him at his baby shower i don't know i don't know if that means my cousin is what you said but yes my cousin had a baby shower she was in the baby.

[Baby D]

Shower you like you get good gifts.

[Co-host]

Or money well she had a registry so i got to go in there and just see which nobody got like i'm pretty sure like she got a lot you ain't you ain't did that yet but i always do that like whatever like the registry i'm like all right whatever anybody didn't get when it comes close to the date i'll just.

[Baby D]

Buy whatever a good tip is to bring a walmart or target gift card and be like here buy whatever people.

[Co-host]

Didn'T get okay yeah same thing like i usually i'll go on a registry but i'm gonna you know whatever she needs she knows she got it well.

[Baby D]

Did you watch the cash money versus.

[Co-host]

No limit versus i did watch the cash money no limit versus shout out to cash money and no limit you know a lot of people online today are a little younger y' all don't really know because you was you was you was i'm too young yeah you was like five six maybe four only.

[Baby D]

No limit like person i know is.

[Co-host]

Lil romeo yeah see you don't y' all don't really know what this was but this was huge for you know just for nostalgic purposes and just the legacy of two two of the most iconic labels in hip hop cash money and no limit but the one problem we was talking about it before we started why was this in las vegas complex con fuck that and i know complex shout out to complex we we with complex but we know complex gave them a bag of course we know they you know because it was complex con and this was you know the performance at complex con but this had to be in new orleans we we were supposed to do this at the superdome like this was not this is not las vegas so the crowd wasn't really no because i mean it was people out there for complex con people traveled you know what i'm saying but it wasn't new orleans it wasn't that i mean people obviously knew some of the songs people were happy to see the guys performing but it wasn't the energy just wasn't what you hear when you see cash money versus no limit yeah that has to be in new orleans yeah you understand what i'm saying like that's that's just too much history it's too much you know just ties to like the community for real everybody that's still in the city of new orleans i know hurricane katrina kind of separated people but you know the the essence of what cash money and no limit have done for that city you gotta have them on stage in new orleans so it was cool it was cool seeing it no lil wayne no turkish i don't know how invested i am at that point when you say you know wayne is not gonna be there turk is not gonna be there then it's like so who well did.

[Baby D]

They play lil wayne records though well.

[Co-host]

They played verses from wayne you know obviously they had to play some of his verses and things like that but why wasn't wayne then like i still don't understand where him and birdman are like you know as far as personally i don't know you know if they're even on speaking terms at this point i really don't know why they can't.

[Baby D]

Keep up there's a different headline yeah.

[Co-host]

I don't know i don't know i can't keep up with men that don't talk to other men that's just not my that's not my dna so who won in your opinion in my opinion looking at it i mean it probably was different inside the venue but looking at it i felt like no limit one okay yeah i felt like no limit one i felt like the records just just hit a little a little different now don't get it twisted cash when obviously juvenile was there you know slow motion i mean that's that's a that's a hood.

[Baby D]

You okay my bad.

[Co-host]

You see what it does soon as you get ain't nobody playing nothing and you just start slow whining in your seat just when you hear the song so yeah you know it was a couple don't get a twist of cash money you know they put on a good show but looking at it you know from what i felt just looking at it i felt like no limit they got the best of that night okay and again that could be because again you don't got you know obviously the juggernaut and lil wayne not being there on stage it does you know it takes away from it a lot.

[Baby D]

Of people saw it being closer than it was because they they assumed that with cash money came young money and i was like i don't think that that's fair and i'm happy that they did they didn't do that right yeah i'm happy that they didn't do that i don't think that that's fair in.

[Co-host]

A sense i mean yeah i understand why you say that but i mean it is cash money young money yeah like you never heard any of the young money artists saying young money and didn't say cash money at the same time so you know it's obviously ties there and affiliations but but this was just from that era of cash money before drake nikki you know wayne obviously was was cash money before young money but wayne not being there i think was just the you know it's like all right man like this is you know we get it it was still cool to see juvie and you know bg and baby silk mia x you know master p master p bro listen seeing master p perform those records and then like really thinking about like the era that master p had and dominated we don't talk about yo master p played in the nba he was just doing shit you don't listen you can't that is like i don't i really think we didn't stop we didn't pause long enough to really like salute master p for that now it wasn't he didn't play eighty two games in a season he wasn't on the starting roster and all that opening day the fact that he was there preseason and just out there he has a jersey he was on the floor with guys who played the full season bro that's almost like this is like movie shit like you know when the movies used to be like yo he went on to play in the nba like this is what that is this is like the dude from the hood that was on the block you know getting into some shit whatever whatever straightened out his life they was like yo you gotta take this serious he took it serious and really like did something that he didn't you know he didn't have a long career but the fact that he even got to that level you know how synonymous rap in basketball is yeah it's the same it's one and the same the fact that master p did what he did in music in the culture and actually played in a preseason nba.

[Baby D]

Game and went on to be one.

[Co-host]

Of the greatest it was preseason correct was it preseason so tell me that.

[Baby D]

Is crazy tell me about that because i know that we have some somewhat of a younger audience and by younger even the younger people we getting old now so we might not have been exactly around for that why did he only play preseason like was he what.

[Co-host]

Happened well i mean it's the nba at the end of the day like it's not you know it's it's hard for guys that are really good at basketball to make the opening day roster and stay in the league like that's you know that's just not something that any and everybody could do so he wasn't that good he wasn't good enough to stay on a nba roster but he was good but he was good he got to the you know played in the preseason now some of it may have been just the lore of it teams know what it did for marketing and things like that um but still he got out there and looked good like he was out it wasn't like he was out there and he looked crazy he can play basketball was.

[Baby D]

He better than bronny.

[Co-host]

Nah he wasn't better than bronny nah we ain't doing i was just asking nah baby d we not doing that just asking you.

[Baby D]

Felt about bronnie i was just asking.

[Co-host]

How do i feel about bronnie i.

[Baby D]

Mean this podcast has been critical of him when he got drafted to the.

[Co-host]

Lakers so no i mean i was on i i i rooted for it i like nepotism no but calling it.

[Baby D]

Nepotism exactly so that's nepotism don't but that's why i was cuz cuz i mean master p didn't have nepotism so.

[Co-host]

That'S why i was asking no no that's but yeah but no bronnie is yes bronnie will bronnie right now and master p back then if they played each other bronnie would destroy master p oh okay like yeah there's no it's not like he absolutely would i was just but i mean i still support nepotism okay shout out to bronnie you know i hope that he has a great career but yeah we didn't we didn't give we didn't the culture didn't stop long enough to to really salute that moment for master p like making a preseason nba game like that is something that we haven't seen we probably will never see again j cole plays ball he never was on the preseason.

[Baby D]

Roster i mean didn't he play for like africa or somewhere cole was playing.

[Co-host]

For baby d what i'm just have you seen have you seen them african teams he don't do that like come on we not doing that i'm just saying i'm just saying it's just a difference is all i'm saying shout out to cole you know he's trying to pursue that too but even j cole knows how crazy that is that master p played with the raptors and the hornets okay oh he two teams like come on man this is what i'm saying like we didn't the coach didn't stop we didn't pause long enough to salute that so shout out to master p shout out to birdman shout out to cash money no limit the versus again i would have liked to see it in new orleans personally because just the energy would have been completely different would have loved to see turk there birdman has some things to say in regards to turk not being there towards the end of the set but you know we're not gonna highlight the negative shit but hopefully man they could do this over and do it right or just don't even make it a versus just do a cash money no limit show at the superdome in new orleans it ain't gotta be a versus it could kind of be like what jd was planning on doing with bad boy versus so so def app where they was gonna go in you know do.

[Baby D]

You think jd was scared nah hell.

[Co-host]

Nah y' all don't know jd's that's what i'm saying y' all don't know.

[Baby D]

Jd'S history first of all first of.

[Co-host]

All nah you don't baby i'm not.

[Baby D]

Asking cause i believe that jd is scared what i'm saying is do you.

[Co-host]

No when i say y' all i mean like not you y' all the people that feel like that okay no.

[Baby D]

Because i just feel like i don't know like because his history is so big and people i don't know if people would expect i don't know if he would be considered the underdog in that situation right if we do jd.

[Co-host]

Would be the underdog yes he would definitely be the underdog only cause puff is a bigger figure okay he's a more polarizing fig but now again that's what jd likes though he wants that because jd don't care about that the end of the day when we start playing these records that i really produced cause then it's that then it's that.

[Baby D]

Part oh shade no no no it.

[Co-host]

Ain'T shade it's facts clock it it's just facts cause we talking about producers jd plays he writes he also raps puff gives you know he gives you that he gives you that that style and that flair that aura he nah say it like this like puff do that he got sauce that's what he does you gotta remember puff come from the party promotion game he know how to have a party and how to you know what's gonna make people move so he come from that jd played drums you get what i'm saying like so he comes from he danced he was break dancing he was so he comes from that part of it so it's just like you know it would have been interesting but yeah that i wanted to happen only because i really feel like people don't give jermaine dupree you know obviously they say mariah carey they say usher but no we gotta go brat we gotta go kris kross we gotta go bow wow he got real songs with biggie he got real songs with lil kim so these are the things that people forget i think he got songs with mace so these are things people forget like when puffing them was popping on bad boy was putting them joints out jd was producing for a lot of those artists on bad boy as well but people forget about that cause that was early nineties.

[Baby D]

That was mid nineties they really connect when you think jd you think usher.

[Co-host]

You think r and b yeah you.

[Baby D]

Think usher you think bow wow but you think usher mariah carey like exactly how you said they remembered it back.

[Co-host]

In the day they don't remember the money ain't a thing with jay z they don't remember those records they don't you know what i'm saying life of fourteen seventy two they don't remember that album so it's like you know i wanted to see that happen only because i think it's what the verses does is it reminds a newer generation it also shines light on damn like that record still sound cause even watching the no limit cash money i'm hearing about it bout it and all that i'm like i gotta put this on the gym playlist like i forgot how it's.

[Baby D]

Still yeah somebody you know what i'm.

[Co-host]

Saying i'm in the crib watching that shit i'm doing disses about it about it i'm like nah this shit i forgot how just that energy of what it did when you first heard those songs so i wish we obviously are not gonna get that verses with jd but i think we missed out on the moment where they would have did that in atlanta at the mercedes benz stadium i mean i think that at that point it's just a party you know what i'm saying we letting jd and puff dj and just have going down that lane of memory lane of hearing those records but yeah i think people people need a lesson in jermaine depri though because they don't give jd his his props when it comes to hip hop rap as much as they should r b i think that's clear but don't let's not forget about what jd did in hip hop and rap.

[Baby D]

As well yeah and i think it's because he doesn't he's not a flashy person he's humble yeah he's not a.

[Co-host]

Flashy person that's another thing being humble sometimes will leave you out of the conversation because you ain't braggadocious you don't talk your shit it's easy to forget about you when the loud niggas and the boisterous niggas like yeah yeah but then when you was like listen fuck all play them records though and then i really produced that like i really went in there and played that that's a different conversation that's why i be.

[Baby D]

Trying to get y' all to talk y' all shit and y' all be like nah we cool we humble new balances and upside down hats like nah.

[Co-host]

Talk your shit i'm just that's just not me baby d i never been that i mean i was but now it would that would be crazy for me to start trying to like we just doing a we just talking our man that's all this is just podcast have fun i ain't got no ego when it comes to this man i just like kicking and talking about that's.

[Baby D]

All well don't worry i will pop it for y' all pop it there.

[Co-host]

Baby d per usual speaking of pop it meg thee stallion's new video love a girl baby girl yo i walked.

[Baby D]

In i walked in and these blasting.

[Co-host]

Lover girls my interest cuz look baby look cause i didn't see the video right i didn't see it i saw clips of it obviously meg was teasing it like for the last couple weeks giving i'm like okay i like that sample that's that total kissing you you know what i'm saying for those that don't know so i heard i said i was like okay damn the video came out i said let me watch the video so now i remember the conversation we have and if you stop right there josh to open the scene.

[Baby D]

Open the scene stop right there no.

[Co-host]

No no go back a little bit to the red and black to the red and black right there now we had a conversation right there we had a conversation last week right and there was i don't know i didn't say it cause i think meg is a pussy rap now obviously she can rap i think meg can really rap but she's we call it pussy rap right we call it the pussy rap we're in the pussy rap this is a.

[Baby D]

Patreon conversation for people who listened patreon.

[Co-host]

Dot com newroarianmall five dollars ad free so we was talking about meg being a pussy rapper and you know i was like nah she ain't really push she could really rap yeah she can really rap i think meg i like meg she could rap she talking shit but it still falls on the pussy rap the opening shot in this video to me maybe this is one of those things where it's like what do you see when you look at this i mean maybe i need to sit down with a therapist maybe it's a.

[Baby D]

Butterfly and you just you got maybe.

[Co-host]

That'S a butterfly maybe the i see a clit.

[Baby D]

I mean one could take.

[Co-host]

The clit is moving meg is the clit the clit is moving i'm just telling you what i see baby maybe meg i'm sorry if i'm not trying to listen i'm not trying to sexualize you i'm not trying to sexualize you meg not more than you already do you look great meg you look amazing but the opening scene baby d it's artistic i think it's beautiful put it in the louvre put it in the fucking louvre but we gotta call it.

[Baby D]

What it is uh huh yeah that's.

[Co-host]

Definitely alluding to vagina vaginal aesthetics right yeah vaginal aesthetics gotta get in there right so i was sold as soon as i saw it open the scene i'm like i'm in mm i'm in.

[Baby D]

And then kissing you is a double.

[Co-host]

Entendre come on now now you talking my language that's what i do right.

[Baby D]

Okay cool megan three thousand i'm on.

[Co-host]

Board i'm on board i'm a meg fan i love meg but she's a pussy rapper and she loves the pussy aesthetic she loves that thing to come.

[Baby D]

With it she is and i had to bite my tongue when this song came out which i was so excited for and i do love this song but i thought you know with the with the clay debut i'm like all right meg is moving into her grown woman like i'm in love like you know we're gonna settle down get married type nope it's still pop that for your man just we still pop a but just this time it's not man it's i'm popping for your man my.

[Co-host]

Man hey she's showing growth she's showing growth yeah for your man don't just be out here popping it for your.

[Baby D]

Man i'm i i approve this message.

[Co-host]

I do too i endorse it when is the rally i'll be there i'll be like twenty one savage at the shut what was it the whole slut walk the whole added oh i'm sorry but slut walk i'll do that for me i'll be i'll be at the next what is it called slut walk.

[Baby D]

I think they canceled them but yeah.

[Co-host]

Why didn't they cancel that i don't know you having no king rallies.

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[Co-host]

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[Baby D]

Ma do you know what the slut walk was about though what it was.

[Co-host]

For body positivity body empowerment women's ability.

[Baby D]

To exist in themselves without being without having to be sexually assaulted yes i.

[Co-host]

Support that i support that's what i'm saying i'll go i'll go that i support let's support that let's rally for that load up the buses get us to dc wherever the next slut walking baby how do we start the how do we how do we bring back the slut walk we bring everything back you bringing back all these old movies that's whack now nobody want to bring back the that matters sister act on.

[Baby D]

Netflix that's so funny why did josh can you look up why they got rid of the slut walk what happened.

[Co-host]

To it yes that's the these are the questions i'm here to try to answer baby d bring back the slut walk we need the slut walk back but shout out to meg video's amazing she looks great they said meg and klay thompson remind them of duncan penderhughes and demita from class see you too young you've never seen class act the fuck you seen never seen class act.

[Baby D]

I'Ve never seen it peach you seen.

[Co-host]

Class act y' all never seen oh my y' all are too young y' all don't know the classics no i've.

[Baby D]

I'Ve heard of it but i've never.

[Co-host]

Seen it pull up a picture of duncan penderhouse oh good luck with josh and dem oh god josh god damn it josh are killing me duncan pender hughes oh jesus christ just put class a where is it where is it they gotta have a picture of demeter well that's dunkin well kid from kid and play play duncan penthughes but demita the girl in his school that was like the bombshell brown bombshell beauty they had a picture of them two in class right there they said that's clay they said that's clay and meg i was crying cause you gotta know this movie to really understand how funny that is when they say yo this is clay and meg but you got baby i gotta make a list of all' cause you'd never seen boyz n hood.

[Baby D]

First of all putting that on me crazy as no no what movie what.

[Co-host]

You didn't see it was some movies we named it they weren't black movies.

[Baby D]

Like there weren't like it was some.

[Co-host]

Classic black moves you haven't seen we.

[Baby D]

Talked about i think the only classic black movie i haven't seen is what's the one with the black and white like face dead president dead presidents i haven't seen that president classic yeah i.

[Co-host]

Haven'T seen it no it was some other don't do that it was some other movies we would have to pull.

[Baby D]

Up the list of black movies there's a couple i haven't seen but what do you looking for i need some.

[Co-host]

Tissue i'm sorry peace can we pause.

[Baby D]

No worry about ma i know you're.

[Co-host]

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More details all right so baby d it was brought to my attention we was talking about hip hop being dead you know we've they've been saying we've been saying that for years is hip hop dead is hip hop dead so in september four hip hop songs were on a global chart in september okay five years ago there were fifty six on the global charts that's a big drop it is that's over ninety percent gone right we had a talk with berg shout out to hitmaker he came by the set last week and he posed a question because we were saying you know women are dominating rap right now as far as like there being more stars newer stars in rap most of them are women and he said well name you know some stars superstars under thirty five on the men's side like don't name the legacy acts don't name the guys that have been in it for years and it stumped us it was obviously the nba youngboy you know we acknowledged that not saying you know but it is interesting to see women dominating hip hop rap now and then now in september only four hip hop songs were on the global charts i'm not saying this is women's fault how you okay no no just listen but but we have to because this is just data this is analytics like right now yes women are dominating okay.

[Baby D]

So that's why that's where i want to stop you because women are not dominating rap how because them four songs that are on the global charts i guarantee that they're not women's songs unless it's from cardi's album what were the four josh can you look up the four hip hop songs that were on the global charts women are not dominating rap rap women there are more no there are more women hip hop stars than ever before that's what i'm but that doesn't mean that they're dominating rap because there's still way more men than.

[Co-host]

Them yes i'm just saying yeah the stars though the stars the ones that.

[Baby D]

Are the stars that people will consider stars would be nba youngboy playboi cardi travis scott cardi b those would be who people would consider the the big big stars who nba youngboy travis scott.

[Co-host]

Playboi cardi i don't look at playboy.

[Baby D]

Cardi rapper but but the the charts do they acknowledge it they don't acknowledge.

[Co-host]

Yeah they categorize it as rap he's.

[Baby D]

Rap so but i think that's the issue so you can continue what you were going to say as far as like do we connect it to more women being there but i'm going to disagree with you i don't think that that's it i think it's that we took took the r b out of hip hop we took the the soulfulness.

[Co-host]

Huh the hook being r and b.

[Baby D]

We took the soulfulness out of hip hop and that is what made it more palatable to other genres does that.

[Co-host]

Make sense yeah i guess i guess it's a lot of that baked into it too i'm not saying that the fact that we have just women dominating or more women dominating rap right now than we've probably ever had i'm not saying that's the sole reason for it there's a lot of things that we can put into it but to me i think we start there because we've never had this many women rap stars before at one time you know what i'm saying it's like every day we turn around it's like oh shit like another female mc is coming and she's got a dope record and it's like okay cool but does that sustain obviously not not the music in general is not sustaining like a lot of music like we happy to get mob deep albums and everything that you know they doing that mass appeal we happy to get all and these are all legacy artists these are all legacy acts dropping new music but as far as like the newer artists hip hop is in a scary place i think hip hop is in a very very scary place i think that it's a conversation that you know we all need to start having and really looking at like damn like what is ha if this happened in five years if only four hip hop songs are charting on today's global spotify chart like what does the next five years look like so the songs.

[Baby D]

That are charting are see youe again i'm gonna assume that that's the wiz khalifa see youe again all the stars obviously by sza and kendrick both which have r and b hooks and who.

[Co-host]

Is timeless in the weekend the weeknd in playboy cardio right okay that's not that's the weekend that ain't rap and.

[Baby D]

Then what's the other one no poll.

[Co-host]

Who is that oh this is oh they calling that that weekend record hip hop yeah see what i'm saying that's where it get tricky at yeah but.

[Baby D]

Even still if you see those are all they have r b the hook yeah so it's like that's palatable to a wider audience when you're talking about global that's palatable to a wider audience the soul the the r and b which is the reason why all of our when they were doing soul and r b music back in the day was so widespread like you see what i'm saying so when you bring hip hop into it and you got them banging verses and a good ass hook like people can listen to that straight rap through and through or this bullshit where they're like doing this drill rap and then they're also singing the hooks and it don't sound good because they can't fucking sing like it's just which i blame kanye and drake for that shit by the way what rappers singing their own hook hooks rappers used to.

[Co-host]

Always sing their own hooks you know that was like a thing at one point like not all of them no most rappers used to do their own hooks though when i mean you just go back and listen to like a lot of the biggie a lot of tupac a lot of early jay z a lot of nas a lot like they were doing their own well yeah.

[Baby D]

But when i'm thinking so what year did they say they were fifty six they said it was how many five.

[Co-host]

Years ago five years ago and for context too this is spotify's top two hundred most stream track like that's what the chart is okay oh this is just spotify's top two hundred most streamed tracks yes okay okay but still yeah it should be more than four i i just think that it's a it's a conversation man like and we talk about it a lot like you know now you listen to a song it's almost like as good as we all felt the clips album was when it came out right i haven't played that album in weeks i'm talking about not a single song i played in weeks and i like it i like the album thought it was good i played.

[Baby D]

It back to back to back when it first came out and then i revisit it every once in a while but i don't play it as often as i did when it first came out but i still do play it.

[Co-host]

Pretty often people don't understand that it's.

[Baby D]

This it's that phone our parents were right it's the damn phone this this.

[Co-host]

This the phone is killing music as much as we don't want to admit it the phone is how we listen to me like if i'm playing an album right now i'm connected to the speakers in the crib and i'm playing i'm listening somebody called me somebody send me some video to look at i look at i might not even go back to the album tonight now i done fell into a conversation about whatever somebody text me da da da get on the phone like it's not this takes away from the music experience as much as i love it because it is very convenient i can pull up a song i can hum a melody into my phone and don't even remember the words and it'll pull up the song and i can play it so i love that part of it but it definitely has taken us away from experiencing music in the way that we used to like before you get a cd or you get a vinyl you put it on niggas could be in the crib fighting guess what that music's still playing somebody could call you on the phone i'm on the phone music still playing like i'm still in i'm still here i'm still listening in the moment i'm still consuming the music now playing it off my phone something happens you know whatever whatever it's like it pulled me away from that i'm on the phone i forgot but that's not just with music with tv as well i could be watching the show get a call something watching something on my phone never revisit it i don't even know what just happened the last two episodes shit just been running our attention.

[Baby D]

Span is so short i will also say say that me personally i don't know if anybody else feels this way when i i tire of songs quicker now because of instagram so when i'm doom scrolling which i do do i have a problem i need to fix that but when i'm doom scrolling on instagram and i'm doom scrolling on tick tock and people are creating content and i've heard that song a million times now i'm now tired of it i might have heard it three times on my phone but i've heard it a hundred there are songs that i know full the words too that i've never downloaded never heard on my phone but i know the words simply because i've consumed so many so much content content.

[Co-host]

With that song songs live longer on social media than they do in your in your in your in your home for sure and in your car because somebody posts a video that goes viral with doja cat playing in the background everybody we all seen that their keeps playing us on the real you like it lives longer on social media than it does like then you live with it in your personal time and i mean again i'm not saying it's a yeah well yes i am saying i do think it's a negative thing yeah i do because it's it's evident when you see charts like this it's like bro people are not i just feel like people are just not as attached to the music as we once were.

[Baby D]

Like and the quality of the music just let's be honest the quality of the music is just not good it's not as good it's not there is.

[Co-host]

Good music killed me years ago when i said that because i was saying it was easier to get in the music business and get out i remember i remember than ever than it's ever been nah i know it's not not how i can i can be a no name this could be my first album i ever recorded and if drake drops tonight guess who else can drop tonight me like i could put my album on the same dsp nobody's ever heard of me but i could put my album on the same dsp as drake or beyonce or whoever and i this is my first nobody i'm not even i just made this in my basement and it take off i could have a song that goes viral now i'm getting booked over here booked you know how hard it was to do that just not even let's say twenty five years ago like it was like you had to really travel and go to these cities and go hand in hand trying to get people to hear your shit now i just upload a record tonight i could be a star.

[Baby D]

Next sunday and also what the labels are looking for now from what i see is no one's looking for the quality no one's sitting in these meetings and making these people climb on the table like they did bobby shmurda and perform and stuff well we needed to.

[Co-host]

Get away from that you don't ever need to be on nobody's table rapping like let's get away from saying is.

[Baby D]

No one is there's no quality control what they're looking for is coaching and.

[Co-host]

And cute they down there doing coach.

[Baby D]

K what they're looking for is who has the attention and what people do to get attention nowadays is not be talented like you can get be talented and get attention but that's not what everybody's going for everybody wants to be some type of like like i don't even want to say content creator but there's so many smoke and mirrors and like just fugazi going on and that's making people a star that's how you get someone like some of our some of our stars i'm not gonna say any names but it's like you're not good but you've created this persona that the young kids have fallen in love with and now they're a rock star and they're demonic and it's going viral and you're doing clickbaity and now you have like this cult based following about a bunch of that's not good music you see what i'm saying like so it's like their labels are just looking for well who's all right you you got a couple songs out who's getting the most what you got a lot of social media following or people coming to your shows this this this this and that they're not looking for good music so bullshit slips through the cracks bullshit is allowed to become the biggest and then because other shit doesn't look like it makes it hard for real shit now when you make real shit they're like oh you making old school hip hop and it's like no i'm not making old school hip hop i'm just making hip hop i'm making actual rap but no one's sitting down and listening to actual rap anymore unless you already have our hearts clips already has our hearts if people would have just came out yeah if unknown people would have came out with that clips album people wouldn't have fucking listened to it it wouldn't have gotten as much you know nowhere near as much of attention no matter how good it was but they have our hearts already so we're gonna go listen and be like ah this is good we've missed this but that they're not gonna go do all the silly bullshit that these other artists are gonna do to continue to go viral and have viral sounds and all of that shit so then you come at an impasse because now the internet runs everything so if you can't pop on the internet then you're not gonna pop on the charts unless it's a.

[Co-host]

Crazy because it was never it used to be the reverse of that like so i've you know again i'm old enough to remember a group like milli vanilli right great record great record but it was a thing where it was like yeah but whoever made that record probably doesn't look like a star yeah right now you just gotta look like a star we could tweak we could we can turn the knobs on the in the studio and we could get the sound to where where it need to be but before it used to be as long as the music is good that was we lead first is the music good he may not be a star she may not be a star we don't even got to put them in the video we can use somebody because this is things that really happen there was videos in the nineties where i come to find out that ain't even the person who's on the record that's not even them but they're in the video and they're portraying it like they're performing the record and that's not even a real artist so it went from that it went from leading with the music being great great to now that's the second that's secondary yeah now it's like yo what's what's your personality like you know i mean what's your you know is do people love the personality do they love the look the aesthetic you know the vibe the energy okay cool now we could put music we can put something together we could cook something up get them in the studio with the right person we see it all the time but then now what happens is you get something like this chart that we have to sit and look back and be like damn damn only four so it's a real conversation to have man i just feel like you know again being able to see the many shifts and changes in the landscape of music and things like that and being able to look back and things are looking a little for the first time that i can remember you know people have been saying hip hop is dead for years you know it's looking dead though it's looking like i ain't gonna lie we might have to start going to hospice and visiting this motherfucker like yo this nigga might be on his way y' all.

[Baby D]

Gotta start making hip hop music that the old people and that the white people can comfortably rap that's it that's the only way the white people and the old people gotta comfortably rap it.

[Co-host]

Yeah but white people comfortably rap some of our like pedro's is going crazy on the no limit shit he just told us a beautiful story about how back in nineteen ninety seven him and his friends would gather around a local dell computer and look at videos a local dell computer wasn't there it's like you know no none of us had a computer in our home for a while that was like a yeah if a had a computer you was rich if your man had a computer like in ninety five now you go to.

[Baby D]

Your man i didn't even know they.

[Co-host]

Had computers in ninety five don't don't do that don't don't play with me.

[Baby D]

Like that i got my first computer.

[Co-host]

And yeah but we're not talking about when you got the first computer i'm talking about yes there were computers in nineteen ninety what did they look like they would look like it was a big ass box but it was that that worked though baby d and if your mom's picked up to make a call connection was all up well no.

[Baby D]

It was like that when i first got a computer too that aol my mother be mad as she go to pick up her phone and hear that.

[Co-host]

Yeah but white people have always comfortably rapped to rap music what i'm saying the most ghettoist most hood they they love that they they relate to that.

[Baby D]

Yes but we're you also have to remember that we're in a little bit more of a woke era too so it's not they don't feel comfortable rapping that as much as they used to and when i say white people i think i mean like the martha stewart's.

[Co-host]

Of the world well martha stewart she's a felon yeah but she needs to.

[Baby D]

Be raped old white women old white women and old black people period like to feel comfortable rapping it's like now where they hear they're like what is this book what is this y' all are listening to like that like you need music that makes them comfortable and i think that's the music the rap music that goes far i think that drake has done a good job at that i think cardi b's album the reason why it was that big is because she was able to do that too to make even if it is raunchy you have singles that sound good to old people people like you need all of us to make rap number one again you can't just cater to the little kids that are on their computers gaming and saying i hate you mom like you can't just cater to them like you have to get everybody involved in order to be that big.

[Co-host]

Huh eminem did oh yeah but also.

[Baby D]

If you don't unless you were really straining to hear eminem or like really listening to his you didn't really realize just how horrible eminem eminem's lyrics were and the that he was saying because when i was younger and i was singing eminem i didn't know what the.

[Co-host]

I was singing you didn't know what you were singing when you was singing a lot of this juvenile back that.

[Baby D]

Ass up no i knew what that meant you working with some ass yeah you bad yeah make a spend his cashiers last year you knew and you.

[Co-host]

Know how old you was when that.

[Baby D]

Song first came out how old was what year did back that ass up.

[Co-host]

First come out ninety eight four maybe ninety ninety seven ninety ninety nine nine in that that era right there ninety eight how old you four you knew what you were saying you ain't know what the but to be fair the.

[Baby D]

First time i probably heard that song or really hurt like really listen to it i probably wasn't for that song so you know what i'm saying that still plays in parties but that's another thing when people say that female rap is too raunchy these days i'm like i was i grew up listening to trina and lil kim y' all aren't about to tell me that wap is the worst song y' all ever like i can't i just can't get jiggy.

[Co-host]

With that nah it listen man when wap first came out they killed me for saying it that like hearing listen i heard i had the little kim hardcore poster in my room i had the poster like i knew how to that little kim hardcore poster shook up that shit shook up the culture like crack rock that shook that that little kim hardcore poster that shook the black community like crack in the eighties no y' all think i'm joking oh you wasn't matter of fact in high school if you opened your locker and you didn't have that little kim poster in your locker you was a lame you was lame like yo you ain't got the hardcore and then like if they heard you had it open your locker here come the principal open your locker hating rip my shit right out going to get another one i don't care lil kim will be here that hardcore so and even that but then josh pull up the little kim hardcore picture watch this baby let me your head all the way up with this one look at this picture now with today's twenty twenty five eyes and tell me what was the problem with this poster.

[Baby D]

That thing was fatted in a swamp.

[Co-host]

Possum but what's wrong with it there's no if you look at that that's almost like that could be ing that.

[Baby D]

Could be on ig right ig that.

[Co-host]

Could be outside side on the bus like that yeah this is a wreck that's there is nothing hardcore about this picture in twenty twenty five now in nineteen ninety five or ninety six whatever year came out oh you that shook the streets up but this is what i'm saying now we get to the meg video love a girl meg if meg would have showed up in that day they like come on this ain't a gap commercial if meg showed up up dressed like lil kim on that hardcore post now they like come on this ain't gap yo we not doing the gap commercial like this ain't this ain't gap you see but you see what i'm saying that was considered so now when you hear wop but but.

[Baby D]

See but see okay dangly thing in.

[Co-host]

The back of my throat is cra.

[Baby D]

Stiff dick still sweet in this little petite young bitch from the streets guaranteed to stay down used to bring work at a time greyhound billboard bound she's moving drugs stiff dicks feel sweet in this little petite heat okay sex i know a dude named jimmy used to run up in me huh late night drunk off of henny and when he didn't mind it when he me from behind it felt fine especially when he used to grind it he was a trick when i sucked his dick he used to pass me come on now.

[Co-host]

Huh i'm here with you baby yo yeah that ain't hit the dangly thing in the back of my throat come on bro i'm just saying and and and here's the other part of what you just said how many times did you say put.

[Baby D]

Okay so what i will say is i i rest my.

[Co-host]

Case how many times did you say in all those little kim bars little.

[Baby D]

Kim has bars i can't no no.

[Co-host]

No no no i'm not saying she don't we speaking on wap versus all that little kim shit you just gave.

[Baby D]

Me.

[Co-host]

K i was there i was.

[Baby D]

Outside baby d the never ate my as a little as a little kim.

[Co-host]

Bar no little kim listen she definitely raunchy wild bars but you gotta go into the album cuts a little more to kinda get to some of that i'm saying those bars you just spit that was like i could the reason i know baby d cause we used to rap little kim bars as a man as a young nigga in the streets i used to how many licks.

[Baby D]

Does it take to nah i wasn't.

[Co-host]

On that okay all right that wasn't for me i couldn't rap that but.

[Baby D]

I'M a big ass dick in a hurricane tongue you was rapping that i.

[Co-host]

Didn'T do that i was at the bar when that came okay cool i'm just saying like she got those in there but it wasn't as as it was ass nah it wasn't i was.

[Baby D]

Really there baby trina sex you don't know nail hold that five six best friend five or six best friends is crazy i don't know five that's best.

[Co-host]

Friends together you ain't got five best friends first of all that's like let's start there don't got five best like.

[Baby D]

Five or six best friends you know.

[Co-host]

Now you don't even know but yeah y' all don't know when when when when trina took the jacket off in that video and we saw the sparkly bra she the hood the streets was up after that who is this light skinned girl that's all we wanted to know ran home from school to watch bet to catch that video yo who is shorty with the sparkly like y'.

[Baby D]

All can't make me feel bad about wap when there was credit cards getting slid in between people ass cracks that.

[Co-host]

Was go go watch the tip drew video today and then go put on meg's new video video it's not as crazy as you think baby back then yeah because we talk about the thong song go look at that video that video is like this is baywatch this ain't no like in comparison to today i'm saying ask them thugs was so fat come on what we did it just wasn't as like now it's just like like i was watching the video i asked peach i said was that a lip i think they missed the edit i think they missed the edit i'm like yo i think they missed.

[Baby D]

The edit don't piss me off i'm.

[Co-host]

Just saying the times have changed there.

[Baby D]

Is way too much there is way too much just overt sexuality and i don't want to put it on the women because it's not just the women the men have done it too there's too much overt sexuality in songs though like i want to hear like victoria monet does a good job at describing sex but making it like a metaphor like she has a song called f u c k friend you can keep which is about friends with benefit oh.

[Co-host]

I thank her for that face to face when we did bet that was so beautiful the way she did that you think i said yo i couldn't figure out how to say what you said for years i was trying to say i don't want to say i just want to you you don't want to tell a girl i just want to try to uhhuh but now if you say i'm just trying to be a friend you could keep o she coming she coming she coming she overly going right yeah but if you like i'm trying to beat it i'm just trying to be a friend you could.

[Baby D]

Keep now this beat it.

[Co-host]

That'S why you my that's why you my cuz you understand that's all i'm saying you get it that's just the way you say it yeah megan they can all get they off it's just the w you can get it off it's just the way you say it yeah you could tell a you got a wet ass wop cool i got it i got this w that's fire hit the dangly thing in the back of whoa how many other have you told this to now i got questions on a.

[Baby D]

Date i don't want to spit i want to gulp i want to gag.

[Co-host]

I want to choke i do too i want that but don't tell me it like that like just kind of make it a little more when you.

[Baby D]

Go back and listen to the lyrics of the like gobble me swallow me drip down inside of me quick jump out for you let it get inside of me quick jump out yeah i felt the out of that i hear.

[Co-host]

You meg i hear you i've been on the other side of that i get it maybe i'm i'm here to tell you i understand i'm just saying the way we doing it couple more.

[Baby D]

Met we need more metaphors we just.

[Co-host]

Need artistic play to it we just need to kind of like dress it up a little more as hip hop as rap put a little more skill.

[Baby D]

I was thinking about that when we were talking about how suck it or not is like a legendary song and i'm like i was thinking in my head like why do i like suck it i liked suck it or not so much because i mean it was a good song but it was also very raunchy and it's like i like that it was rare for a song to be that raunchy it's not rare.

[Co-host]

Anymore it's not rare yeah it's not.

[Baby D]

Real we've become and i don't want to sound i know we getting older i don't want to sound like the old pr people because we just as freaked out as everybody else right we've proven that through the years on this podcast but there's a there's a better way to do it there's a more creative way to do it and i just wish that people would explore it but at the same time when we go into the era of like we said the internet and clicks these are the songs that the labels are picking for to go out because that's what garners attention and i've i've just i've complained about that with meg before and people like meg rap about the same thing i'm like when meg is not rapping about y' all don't want to hear it so it's like if i want a career any of these artists if i want a career then i have to either be beefing with somebody or rapping about sex or rapping about intense violence like all of the negativity the negative about hip hop has just been amplified and that's what people seem to support that's what seems to go.

[Co-host]

Viral well sex sells and it always will it was the probably the first thing that was ever sold was some pussy i think it was gold and then pussy brick and mortar yeah exactly but you know i just again just being a consumer consumer first of music and culture and hip hop i just would like to see a little more artistic cleverness still be sexy i love women that's you know never i ain't wake up one day and never not love women love women love looking at women love all of that but you know when it comes to music and things like that i just wanted to just be a little more clever a little more artistic a little more skill set that's all i'm saying like still be sexy get your off talk your but i just want to just a little more just give me this a little be a little more clever with the pin that's all i'm saying but i love it though shout out to meg great video this episode is sponsored by row you cannot spell rory without the row more as you say roe will help you grow i do say that rory both of them yeah absolutely yeah the row and the rory part sure that's what you be telling everybody that's because both of us want a more controlled erection that's right it dissolves on your tongue in fifteen minutes and you could get to work consensually with whatever partner you deem will have you rose sparks works faster than any other treatment because they dissolve right away plus rose sparks stays active in the system for up to thirty six hours so if if you misplay it and you think it might it might be that time you could live to fight another day rounds in the thirty six hours yeah absolutely if prescribed new sexual health patients get fifteen off their first order of sparks on a recurring plan connect with a provider at rorymal to find out if prescription rose sparks are right for you that's ro co rorymal for fifteen off your first order.

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[Co-host]

More details so you showed me this keke palmer trailer for her new tv show southern fried rice shout out to keke palmer we support keke over here think she's dope she's a legend now i watched the trailer with you and you were telling me that people online the trailer came out people online killing keke palmer about this trailer why are people killing keke palmer about this trailer.

[Baby D]

So for the people who haven't seen southern fried rice is a show up about a asian girl who was raised in black culture i think her family or adopted family is black or whatever and she goes to hbcu and it's about her experience at an hbcu now the backlash that kiki was receiving that i saw was out of all the perspectives that you can write from and the the you're black and the you have the opportunity to tell stories instead of telling the story of a black woman or a black man that isn't you know like we love when we get opportunities to tell stories that aren't rooted in our trauma rooted in slavery root rooted in tyler perry s storylines trauma yes you get this this opportunity to tell a story and instead of telling a black person's story you tell the story of asian american in a black person's space and how it affects her and what trouble she could go through in a black person's space and they're saying that it's tone deaf why what do you think about that i can i don't exactly agree i can understand where they're coming from but i like different stories right so this isn't a story that i've heard before i wouldn't mind hearing it but i also do understand the critique of kiki as a black woman you know we don't get many opportunities in these spaces to be an executive producer why wouldn't you executive produce a project that told our stories why are you telling it for other because other races are always the asians are always going to hold the asians down the whites are always going to hold the whites down they're always going to give them opportunities when we get a black person in a bigger space it will be not nice for one of us to give opportunities to one of us to tell our story i kind of understand where people are.

[Co-host]

Coming from that because keke's done that she just had a movie in theaters with sza that i think she executive produced or wrote or something like that i think she was on there for.

[Baby D]

That well issa rae did i think kiki might have just acted shout out.

[Co-host]

To issa shout out to keke for you know a good performance shout out to sza for her performance as well but i think that and y' all kill me for this and i don't know why i just think that it's just just the a lot of it a lot of our disagreements i feel like are just the age difference but like you said kiki palmer has this role now why not give us because we always claim we get the same over and over the same stories over and over okay so here comes kiki palmer giving us something different it's still hbcu so we're still in there our culture is still the focus of the film but it's just from the lens of somebody that's not that doesn't look like us now if you're adopted if you're an asian and you're adopted and a black family adopts you yes i'm asian like my birth mother and my father may have been asian they couldn't take care of me for whatever reason they gave me up for adoption a black family adopts me raises me this is the culture that i know josh.

[Baby D]

Double check that that's the storyline by the way but keep talking more this.

[Co-host]

Is the culture that i know this is the culture that i was raised raised in as as a black man growing up in new york city i say it all the time i had so many different friends from different cultures that lived i'm talking about right in my building whether it was indian whether it was cambodian whether it was albanian whether it was dominican puerto rican italian irish like i grew up in a neighborhood that culture was you know and we didn't even really look at it like until i go to your house for the first time and i see the way you know your house is decorated and like the type of food your mom makes then it's like oh shit like i forgot you was a whole different you know like your house is different from my house but when we outside in the park doing dumb shit or we playing sports together or you know we going to see some girls and we riding a train to go down to the mall or whatever the culture is not a conversation this is my man from my block this isn't oh this is my you know cambodian homeboy like it wasn't that this is that's john you know what i'm saying like i don't care about your culture i respect you but it wasn't a conversation so now you have this again i don't know what this kiki palmer things but you have an asian american going to a hbcu people are upset because they feel like she's telling the story of an asian american versus telling a black american story going to hb we've seen that story how many.

[Baby D]

Times but okay so so this is the thing yes we've seen some of that story but there's so i don't want to say a lot of it.

[Co-host]

Stomp the yard you want me to go with the spike lee school days classic one how many more can we go down i mean there's so many stories of shit boys in the hood they went to spelman and morehouse like they so you have these stories of black kids from the hood going to these hbcus we've seen seen that but.

[Baby D]

In all of those movies that you named what else is in there trauma yeah there's trauma in every single one.

[Co-host]

Of those movies yeah but i mean drumline ain't no trauma well he didn't know his dad he met his dad he sold him tokens and his dad didn't come to his graduation guess that could be traumatic right my dad didn't support me so but the story the story of drumline isn't a traumatic story it's a fun kid goes to school he has to he doesn't really know how to play music he lied to get in but he's so he plays off one of the reasons it's a.

[Baby D]

Classic but there aren't a lot of classic stories about black people in school that doesn't have some big trauma which is one of the reasons why forever on netflix did you ever watch forever i think we told you about it it was the two high school kids that were falling in love and things like that that's why it blew up so big because it was such a beautiful black story and there was no trauma so i understand what you're saying i'm not mad at this storyline right i think the people that are complaining i think it's just like who the fuck cares how an asian american feels in our spaces but i can understand why somebody might want to tell that story story i i don't think it's worth killing kiki over she didn't even write it she's an executive producer but.

[Co-host]

It'S so listen baby d you and something that i learned there are people that's going to wake up and rush to the internet to hate on everything yeah and to be upset and bothered by everything that's just like so when you tell me oh they online killing kiki for this and i look at the trailer and i'm like why are they killing her for this i hate.

[Baby D]

The title though i'm not gonna lie southern fried rice is so corny okay that shit is whack all right cool.

[Co-host]

We can see how that's a little but now we gotta wait to see the show to see if it's like okay we get how we tied that in like but we can't go off a trailer and then go online and start stomping keke out like it's just like people will complain about anything and the thing is i don't have again i don't have a victim mentality i don't approach things with the mentality of being upset or that hurt me that bothered me i'm always willing to listen look at it learn like okay see what the you know give me the whole thing let me see what this is before i go online like yo keke you tripping why would you make this tv show about some asian american instead of telling one of our beautiful black sister story like i'm just not doing that man like people just gotta fucking relax like i get it you know we don't get noticed in a lot of spaces but at the same time i can go on netflix and pull up a thousand movies and shows that highlight black kids going to school what's the other nick cannon one what's.

[Baby D]

The other nick cannon one with christina.

[Co-host]

Milian beautiful love don't cost a thing.

[Baby D]

Beautiful i i yeah i feel like.

[Co-host]

As well with lawrence tate and jada pink beautiful story no trauma she was.

[Baby D]

Catching she was catching a lot of i feel like now i understand when people critique people like kenya barris and shonda rhimes for their like for example they catch a lot of slack kenny barris is the producer of black ish the ish show legend and and you know shonda rhimes grey's anatomy scandal things like that they're they and mindy colling gets this too the interracial relationships they catch a lot of slack for there's constant interracial relationships in their shows okay.

[Co-host]

Now if you're a producer that does.

[Baby D]

That extremely light biracial people okay now.

[Co-host]

If you're a producer that does that and it's like we can look at your filmography and point that out then it's like yo fam why you always got an interracial couple in your like why is that interracial people always yeah like why is that always the focus but somebody like me go online and say yo why y' all got a gay couple on every show now oh my god you see you see the reaction you see the reaction that's what i'm saying though but so why so why can't people say that and then i say that as well here i am watching a gangster mob movie they going at it and then start kissing where what where is that at why y' all throw that in there josh.

[Baby D]

Said what show he wants to see.

[Co-host]

Himself i'm just saying why y' all throw that why do y' all why do they throw that in there though.

[Baby D]

I feel like they've i feel like that's been happening i i was so.

[Co-host]

When when even like male frontal nudity.

[Baby D]

Now well that's hbo max everybody naked.

[Co-host]

I'M like yo why i'm watching the movie dope storyline like okay this is cool homie turn around peace out i'm like we didn't need that to feel like the scene was real but hold.

[Baby D]

On because you weren't they've been doing that to women for years and you never come complain people got tired i.

[Co-host]

Mean yes that's my point everybody's going to have their women being the only.

[Baby D]

One objectified in shows now we objectifying everybody if it's going to be if hbo if it's on the screen is dick on there too yeah but i.

[Co-host]

Can'T complain about that yeah but it just be i don't know man i'm.

[Baby D]

So tired of seeing soft dick though at least like stroke it before you put it on camera just soft me.

[Co-host]

A different type of actor to show something off me and know it's going out to the theaters you know how crazy it is y' all show my meat soft and like netflix november third like yo hold up hold up it's wild subscribe to netflix like y don't put me yo that didn't make that wasn't supposed to make it on the edit that that was supposed to make it off the edit floor edit that out my is mad smurmy and y' all talking about november seventeenth that's a week before things giving everybody on netflix n don't put me on netflix thanksgiving with soft meat don't do that don't do me like that listen you want.

[Baby D]

To be an actor you want to.

[Co-host]

Get into it yeah but they killing kiki for the wrong things man shout out to kiki palmer man i'm i'mma watch it just because they killing her and i can't wait to support it i'm going to get everybody mad on the timeline you that's you know you.

[Baby D]

I can't wait has anybody ever told.

[Co-host]

You you're a contrarian yeah i think.

[Baby D]

You go against the grain anything people.

[Co-host]

Like you automatically not anything cuz i like what a lot of people like too but but i'm just but that's just always been me though baby d like i just i i look at things differently like i like people be upset about that and i'm just like why are y' all upset about this.

[Baby D]

But i feel like the more people push against you the harder you defend i think some things when i feel.

[Co-host]

Like i'm right not just to be different okay if i feel like i'm right oh yeah you're not gonna move me off my square if i feel.

[Baby D]

Like i'm right oh i i know i've yeah my literal job description is to move you off your square when you feel like you're right that ain't.

[Co-host]

Pushing a five hydrant right when you pushing me like i ain't moving i ain't moving baby d i ain't budging.

[Baby D]

That oh my god well listen nba season has started yes sir and you know that we have a a big sports audience and i want to understand sports more do you so i do.

[Co-host]

Does your boyfriend watch sports he does what's his team.

[Baby D]

I actually can't you.

[Co-host]

Don'T know nothing about this that's not.

[Baby D]

True that's not true i don't think he's in i think his favorite team is ass so he kind of like gave up on them so i don't think he's ever been like proud enough.

[Co-host]

To tell me oh he one of like yeah i think he root i.

[Baby D]

Think he just he likes sports so he watches all the teams so i actually don't know who his favorite team is okay but i'm seeing on the notes josh has wimby and i'm assuming.

[Co-host]

He means wima victor winbanyama.

[Baby D]

Is he.

[Co-host]

From africa he's from paris he's from.

[Baby D]

Paris okay it says wimby is an alien yes and i put on there mall please explain this to me like.

[Co-host]

I'M five okay so you know the aliens exist right okay yeah one of them now playing san antonio okay cool yes it is a fact he's first san antonio he's seven foot six wow he speaks french oh this is a sick type of alien they got running around the can do everything baby d i've never seen anybody again y' all know how i feel michael jordan is the greatest basketball player ever wouldn't be.

[Baby D]

Second.

[Co-host]

No he's not second yet but his skill set at his size you know just in layman's terms baby we've never seen nothing like this so like.

[Baby D]

So he could he can play like.

[Co-host]

Five and one he can play every position on the floor okay yes he can he can last night i saw him block three shots get the rebound take one dribble over half court and shoot a three i don't i've we talking about seven foot six for somebody to be seven foot six moving the way he's moving and doing the things we've never seen this type of athleticism this type of skill now there have been big men that have skills but wemby the one skill set i think a lot of people don't talk about is his balance he's not as you know a lot of big men are usually kind of like doofy yeah like.

[Baby D]

The new york skyscrapers the taller they build them they sway in a way.

[Co-host]

Yeah but his balance his feel for the game he's just fun to watch because you know that we've never seen nothing like this so you have to appreciate it that one clip i saw of him blocking three shots and then pushing the break and shooting a three he looked like bill russell on one end and kevin durant on the other i don't know if i've ever felt like that looking at any player like to me you know shaquille o' neal when he came in seven feet whatever you know he was very a lot of people don't remember how athletic shaq was in orlando very athletic rebound the ball push the break go coast to to coast with the lakers it became more of a post up just use your power and kind of just bully people but to be seven foot six and doing what wembanyama is doing we've never seen nothing like this so this is a name that you're going to hear hopefully for years i tweeted if his body holds up for ten years because with guys seven six they usually knees start a knee injury a foot injury changes their whole whole trajectory so if his body you know hopefully his body holds up ten years i think that he's a top five player of all time yeah so this is the play look at him one block right block again right then he gets to his they get the rebound they give it right to him count the dribbles one two three jump shot so three dribbles from one end cross half court to a three and you seven foot six we've never i've never seen nothing like this and again we've seen big kevin durant is probably seven feet six eleven we've seen that skill set you know being tall and being able to shoot and rebound we've never seen seven six doing that how old is he he looks young twenty one oh my.

[Baby D]

God yeah he's a baby he's the.

[Co-host]

Future he's the future of the nba i think with him and luka the nba is you know they ain't good but then again these are guys that are not american players so do you.

[Baby D]

Think he could take the spurs off.

[Co-host]

The way oh absolutely he's about they get another piece around him they're gonna they're gonna they're gonna make some noise in the western conference for sure well just him just this team right now if he stays healthy it's gonna be hard to beat them how have the.

[Baby D]

Knicks been doing have they played yet.

[Co-host]

The knicks look good they do the knicks look i think they two zero two one oh two and one to.

[Baby D]

Who who they lose to miami okay.

[Co-host]

They lost to miami who does miami even have have norm powell andrew wiggins norm powell andrew wiggins they lost to andrew wiggins and bam adebayo oh my god the knicks see that's that's that's what pissed me off with the knicks they lose the games they they should win but the knicks look good though i think they you know they they're going to have a another good run again all of this is if everybody stays healthy is halberton still out hal's out for the year yeah i'm sorry.

[Baby D]

Prayers and condolences i hope he heals.

[Co-host]

Prayers and condolences after the fist pump that's not how that's supposed to go.

[Baby D]

Baby d yo they they tore me up because remember when he was playing i was like wishing bad at him and then he tore his ac off.

[Co-host]

So now you your boyfriend head up huh show up with a victim when bayama jersey dress on.

[Baby D]

Now i just gotta get the oversized jersey like it belonged to somebody else to victor.

[Co-host]

Yo you wanna put on a victim with bianma san anton first wedding dress that should be long as a on you baby d put that on and just just be in the kitchen no i.

[Baby D]

Told did i ever tell you the time i told you my cousin was playing for the giants and i had his practice jersey on and that that's a fight that was like to my ankles and was like y' all my.

[Co-host]

Like yeah like that's a fight like i don't care who your cousin take that off i got a jersey i played at the ymca go put my go put my on like take this.

[Baby D]

Jersey off okay well i will stay updated maybe we can go catch a.

[Co-host]

Game game yeah we catch them oh.

[Baby D]

Maybe we can do that for our for our patreon vlog episode go to a game well not an actual game we go to like a bar and watch a game you get wine watching.

[Co-host]

Basketball with wine is fire you don't know no like it see stop playing with me yes sometimes be like you.

[Baby D]

Ain'T never met a like me and i'm like i thank god like i.

[Co-host]

Don'T want like i don't that ain't the case for me though you should be honored to be like yo me and m went to watch this ordered a whole bottle cabinet we to was trying chilling steak i had a steak oh yeah you know red wine and steak go together don't even got your pallet together that's the problem now first.

[Baby D]

Of all i was drinking wet red wine and steak baby when i was twenty one that's i don't even eat red meat like that i'm healing my.

[Co-host]

Don'T count that was at outback that.

[Baby D]

Don'T count outback i was at peter.

[Co-host]

Luga don't you got off get crazy to me baby sylvia brown is a fraud remember we talked about her last week we laughed at her all the videos are coming out now she said somebody was dead she said somebody's son was dead then the mother ended up dying us or committing suicide something like that come to find out the son.

[Baby D]

Wasn'T dead sylvia brown is who used to do what show was that she.

[Co-host]

Was a medium she was on she was on a bunch of talk shows back in the day montel monte williams um and you know people used to ask like yo my loved ones we haven't seen him like he's dead he.

[Baby D]

Drowned yeah we did talk about that.

[Co-host]

Come to find out fraud come to.

[Baby D]

Find out y' all didn't think that.

[Co-host]

No i mean i knew that that's why i was laughing at those clips cause i'm like how's somebody just stand up and tell you some shit like that and you just get all heartbroken you don't know this lady yeah he's dead yes he's dead oh my god thank you what no no evidence nothing that my loved one is dead you just say it and i just break down like i could have said that to you in the parking lot now i would have got arrested arrested for that here comes sylvia brown she's a medium on the stage and her word is gold come to find out sylvia brown was a fraud i just thought it was hilarious that now these videos are going viral of her like being wrong and people weren't dead that she said was dead so that's is she.

[Baby D]

Still is she alive is she alive.

[Co-host]

No she she passed away some years ago okay do we have voicemails you've got mail we do sponsored by boost mobile unlimited talk text and data for twenty five dollars a month month.

[Baby D]

What'S.

[Co-host]

Good rory what's good mom what's going on baby ain't here i with the pod keep doing what y' all doing quick question this is for baby d okay thirty four years old single i just moved out here to syracuse maybe like five months ago got a job with the university working in their athletic department apartment and was just wondering you know as a single man if you knew any spots of where i could go where women would be at or where i can meet some beautiful women i joined a syracuse run club out.

[Baby D]

Here oh shout out to the run.

[Co-host]

Club i met some great people but i feel like that's a weird place to kind of shoot my shot but yeah just wanted to see if you had any suggestions i don't know how in tune you are still with syracuse but i thought i'd at least try and ask all right thanks well thank.

[Baby D]

You for calling and shout out to syracuse well first of all dm me because i think i got a friend for you how good is the job oh you moved out for the job it's a good job all right i got a friend for you light skin cute big titties she don't got fat ass but she got big titties and a pretty ass face long curly hair.

[Co-host]

Yeah that averages out i like long.

[Baby D]

Curly hair in school to be a.

[Co-host]

Nurse in twenty ten right there in.

[Baby D]

School to be a nurse own her own house so dm me because i got a friend for you but if you are looking for other women you would have to go downtown syracuse and scout around now if you want to know where the hood is at again dm me i'll direct you there but if you just want regular women you're gonna have to you have to go downtown and go to like brunches and follow somebody named anthony dickens on facebook because he throws an r b night and that's also where you would go.

[Co-host]

To find women r b night is a good night to find that's a.

[Baby D]

Good night she singing too hard she singing a little bit too hard when that mary come on she overly going.

[Co-host]

I could fix her it like stephan told cardi let me fix you let.

[Baby D]

Me heal you and got a baby.

[Co-host]

Out he got that off stefan digs got that amen oh my god amen.

[Baby D]

You got you know as i get older and i talk to yeah yeah.

[Co-host]

Yeah go ahead go ahead go ahead.

[Baby D]

Reminisce i talk to more men and i see the things that y' all see that we don't notice that y' all are seeing like i remember when my boyfriend i was like what even made you that confident to like cuz he just applied so much pressure he said on our facetime call you was moving and you was packing up your house by yourself and all your ig pictures you had just turned your hair red i knew you was heartbroken i was just moving in like i knew it was a perfect i had a.

[Co-host]

Small window i knew you was up yeah i was waiting for any that looked like he had his together yeah.

[Baby D]

All right okay let's let's he got.

[Co-host]

His together he opened the car door for me girl it'd be crazy the that y' all like don't do that i just opened the car door she's.

[Baby D]

Like that's an expectation though yeah but.

[Co-host]

That'S but but still like you now.

[Baby D]

You sent the driver he sent the driver and the driver opened the car door and waited outside the restaurant in case i wanted to leave the date.

[Co-host]

That'S and you do that and you still i still don't get no it's like ain't no ever since you it's worth the wait yeah sometimes m don't let's just be real ma you waited what i waited for you've waited for sex oh yes i have yeah and it was not worth was it worth it all every time no exactly it.

[Baby D]

Feel you know it's crazy the first time it feel like it was worth the wait and then the second time.

[Co-host]

That wouldn't wait explain it though what you mean the first time when you.

[Baby D]

It'S like when you a starving lion you know what i'm saying and somebody give you a berry it's like damn this berry tastes like gazelle yeah but then when you go to eat the.

[Co-host]

Beer again tastes like gazelle is hilarious this berry tastes like this berry tastes like gazelle when you starve either you've.

[Baby D]

Been starving yeah and then you go to eat that berry again like now this shit just buried yeah this shit.

[Co-host]

Just buried like this just kicks and berries get out of here with this i need gazelle yeah i thought she was a stallion you tricked me yeah sometimes it don't be worth the wait though but you know but you know i'm glad you have a girl from him though hopefully you can make the connection happen if you do we gotta get you know we gotta get them.

[Baby D]

On the zoom if he gotta be fine though because she she you know me first thing i look at is are you a gentleman and do you have money and then i'll look at your looks she look at looks first.

[Co-host]

Why she's single see she listens to.

[Baby D]

This podcast too don't do that i'm.

[Co-host]

No i'm not on i'm saying she just looking at looks i try to put her on i try to put.

[Baby D]

Her on with a baller a trick a easy trick he was overly spending.

[Co-host]

And he was ugly he is ugly.

[Baby D]

As but like she i respect her.

[Co-host]

That'S gangster like if you got a.

[Baby D]

She said she can't she can't fake.

[Co-host]

It gangster cuz if you got a that's true tricking and you still like man watch out like that means she icy she cold she like you ugly i don't care how much money you spending you trash i like that cuz it used to be about that i don't care how much money that is ugly now these be running around with these dusties i'm like yo you will you find this dust ball at oh he got money okay yeah i understand it i get it but i like the fact that still women but he's.

[Baby D]

Sweet too though like you not gonna find a perfect no i think my is perfect but otherwise you not gonna.

[Co-host]

Find a perfect we we gonna timestamp this i'm not wishing bad on your relations i'm happy that you happy baby d don't do that but if listen if allah wills it to have inshah if you if you not together a year from now i'm running this clip back cuz you gonna be in here tearing that up a year no you.

[Baby D]

Know how i get down i bash i come on my platform that's what.

[Co-host]

I'M saying so i i'm happy that you happy it looks good on you but i'm just saying next year november.

[Baby D]

When i say perfect i don't mean literally perfect but what i mean is okay you got money you fine and you a gentleman it's very hard to.

[Co-host]

Find right that's like that's like that's like the holy trinity right holy trinity.

[Baby D]

You know i'm saying perfect by no.

[Co-host]

Means nobody's perfect close enough but he's.

[Baby D]

Perfect so exactly so that's why i be telling her i'm like you're not gonna find everything in one that's very hard it can happen but it's hard.

[Co-host]

Twenty twenty nine she got time she right there she should be turning that corner of settling down trying to get serious with somebody but twenty nine she can still play outside a little bit she can still afford to do that.

[Baby D]

This nigga i don't know i'm thirty one i'm looking i'm like i can't settle for ugly though because my family don't have no ugly people in it we go out of our way not to have ugly people that's a sick.

[Co-host]

Go out of the way we go.

[Baby D]

Out of our way not to have ugly i can't be the first one to bring a little gremlin into the family i can't do that you know what i'm saying i don't want that as my as my part of the family legacy i'm already the one that didn't get like the traditional job like i'm not a lawyer or a nurse or a doctor or professional football player like the rest of them like i'm a podcaster so i i already don't bring that much to the table i can't bring a little gremlin to the family just all i got next to my the emojis next to my name is like the little scary mask and a mic i can we can't do.

[Co-host]

That yeah yeah yeah because if you got an ugly baby you got to kill it.

[Baby D]

Okay all right well thank you guys so much for tuning in.

[Co-host]

Wait that's the only voicemail we got.

[Baby D]

That'S the only voicemail we doing i haven't listened to it yet though just came in really yeah i'm kind of.

[Co-host]

Scared all right let's play it it come on let's play it hey y'.

[Caller]

All thomas from chicago responding to the last message you guys sent about me being in love with my best friend who lives in town texas oh took an account like what damaris said and what mom said as well of like you know going after and going up to be with my wife and damaris also saying to just you know that was just like a one time thing i mean i don't know i'm planning to see her again in december and essentially i'm guessing that when i see her again i'll get like a full gauge of like how she really feels about me i do feel like she really does care about me i don't think that she does care for me in the same way that i care for for her because i really do love her and you know she says she loves me too like i made her feel things like she the way she describes how she feels about me it sounds like she's saying that she is in love with me but she's just not saying that i'm in love with you specifically again because of circumstance and everything that we're both encountering of just like you know being far away like trying to figure out our lives and stuff you know and it kind of makes me beg to question like wonder like you know maybe if she doesn't feel the same same way but you know we'll see like when i get down there we'll like basically do like a trial run of like a relationship or something like i'll be down there for four days or something for christmas and you know we'll just see how everything goes again not really sure how she feels yet but i mean i guess i have doubts just because of where we're at but i don't know i'm trying to keep hope alive.

[Co-host]

With everything two more after that that said i'm trying to keep hope alive he quoted jesse jackson you going down.

[Baby D]

Four days before christmas that gift better.

[Co-host]

Gift nah that gift better gift n don't he don't even know if she like him like that but he he.

[Baby D]

She she won't if he don't bring.

[Co-host]

Her a gift nah man see that's see i don't like that well first.

[Baby D]

Of all it's her best friend if i'm spending four day if i'm going to see my best friend four days.

[Co-host]

He definitely got a gift off he's giving me a gift but it's you saying that gift better gift is like why she he don't even know if she's into him like that so why would you give somebody something when it's like you know how you feel about her but you don't know if she feels the way you feel about her towards you it's like you can't go heavy gift so what would you suggest at that point you trying to gift your way into a relationship what would.

[Baby D]

Your gift suggestion be it's an offering what would your gift suggestion be well.

[Co-host]

Me per like if it's my if it's a woman that i you want.

[Baby D]

And y' all already best well i.

[Co-host]

Would be paying attention to conversation and things that she's saying she's coming kind of been eyeing looking at rick owens boots seeing seeing what she need you know like that i don't know if she need rick owens boots you need a new fridge this here every time i go in there for a drink light off no the handle is in my hand when i close that.

[Baby D]

Like.

[Co-host]

Like them rick owens boots i'mma listen answer the the man is coming with the phrase tomorrow yeah like that rick owens boots cost of a ton new fridge for sure yeah i'm get you a fridge baby i ain't gonna get you no rick owens boots get you a new fridge let's start there like but yeah pay attention to you know a woman that you you're courting and that you like pay attention to conversation things that she may be talking about looking at like that's how you get the perfect get because that's sentiment you pay that's showing how you pay attention you remember like okay cool yeah i'm gonna help you like this is something that is gonna to last you know what i'm saying new fridge it's probably gonna outlive you okay yeah so like that that's what i would do but.

[Baby D]

Like well we're we're wishing we're wishing luck to this man please keep us.

[Co-host]

Updated he left two more voicemails but we'll get into those maybe we'll do that on patreon or something patreon yeah yeah we can do that cuz we because i but do we want to say okay so we'll zoom zoom room before he goes home for for holiday okay and then zoom zoom room after the holiday to just check in on them and see how how things played out okay bet that's cool all right baby d this has been real good talking to you we're doing this two more times this week yeah we are.

[Baby D]

Our patreon we we going to go.

[Co-host]

On a date finally i'm taking you to the movies baby finally take you to the movies okay all right we'll be back in a couple days be safe be blessed i'm that nigga that's baby d period no worrying now ever.

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[Baby D]

News terms apply this is an i heart podcast.