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Mal
Apply the volume.
Baby D
No Warrior. Now.
Mal
See, the funny is. You know what I'm saying? It's hollow. Even though it's Halloween, it's been scary out in the street for a while. Yeah, there's been some scary going on. Ain't got no ebt. What? That's scary.
Baby D
Yeah, it is scary. It's not funny, though. Don't laugh.
Mal
I'm not. I'm just saying we got to laugh through the pain. We was taught to laugh through the pain, right?
Baby D
Yeah.
Mal
I don't know if you. Can you see me? I can.
Baby D
I can see you. I can't breathe.
Mal
See, this is hot boxing right here, baby. See, I could. I could smoke right now. Would nobody be able. Can you see me, Pete? You can't see me. Can the people see me? Press 1 if y' all can see me. We are back. Sponsored by Boost Mobile. Unlimited talk, text and data. Happy Halloween to everybody out there.
Baby D
Happy Halloween.
Mal
This is my favorite time of the year for a few reasons. Baby D. Okay, like what? Well, one, you get to see everybody. You know, all the beautiful ladies in their costumes and half naked. Creative. No, not even half naked. I think. I think women have been doing a job of getting away from the half nakedness the last few years. Everybody seems to be a little more creative now during Halloween. I like this time of year to see all, you know, creatives and people having little parties and things like that. It's my favorite. And the weather is, like, the best. I'm a fall spring guy.
Baby D
Yeah, I see you got your little camo pants on.
Mal
I mean, you know, I tried to. I tried to mix in, you know what I'm saying, with the festivities, you know what I'm saying? I had to give them the same palette, give them a little chocolate brown. This is called chocolate brown, by the way, Baby D. Okay.
Baby D
I mean, it blends in with your skin.
Mal
So I thought it was chocolate.
Baby D
It's definitely milk chocolate, too.
Mal
A little milk chocolate, a little dark chocolate, depending on what you need, you know what I'm saying? So when they ask, trick or treat. I just got to come to the door like this and just. Oh, ladies do they can just do.
Baby D
Bite you?
Mal
Yeah. No, well, not. Not men. We don't. We're not doing that, but, you know, let's see what you got on today. Who you supposed to be?
Baby D
Shaka Khan shot.
Mal
You don't even know. Yo, see the baby. This is my problem with you. You don't even know Shaka.
Baby D
You don't know who I.
Mal
You wasn't outside when Shaka was outside.
Baby D
Shaka is still outside?
Mal
Nah, she ain't outside the way she used to.
Baby D
Not the way she used to be.
Mal
She used to be outside. Yeah, but you giving them thigh high. I see what you giving them thigh.
Baby D
A little something. A little something. Yeah.
Mal
How you feeling? Are you good?
Baby D
I'm good. I'm good. It's Halloween. I am not going out tomorrow because I'm being house. I'm making short ribs.
Mal
You gotta go out for smash. Short ribs for Halloween is crazy.
Baby D
Red wine reduction.
Mal
Yeah, red wine reduction. Your boyfriend, he coming to follow me. Red wine reduction ageist. That's not just a regular Friday.
Baby D
That is a regular Friday.
Mal
But he will be there. He won't be there, man. Yeah, I know you a red wine reduction.
Baby D
We going to be the. The. The. The pink and the st. He gonna be Stitch, and I'm gonna be like the pink version of Stitch. I think her name is Angel. We got little onesies.
Mal
Why you don't be iing Tina?
Baby D
You know, Tina moved because she got tired of y' all turning her trauma into a costume.
Mal
Is that why Tina Turner moves?
Baby D
She don't with. She ain't with America like that. Everything was a joke.
Mal
I thought it was cuz of the taxes. That's why Johnny Depp moved. He doesn't live in America because of taxes.
Baby D
How do you know why Johnny Depp moved?
Mal
Oh, he's very vocal about that. Oh, yeah, he's vocal about that. He trying to keep all that Pirates of the Caribbean money.
Baby D
Yeah.
Mal
He don't want the government taking that.
Baby D
Yeah. Fuck you doing tomorrow?
Mal
I don't know, man. I might just go out to this. It's just something going on at the. Down by the pier. Like this restaurant down there. I don't know. They doing something down there. A few of my people was like, yo, they doing something down by the power. Like, I might swim through.
Baby D
Oh, okay.
Mal
But I mean, it's Halloween. I don't really have plans on Halloween.
Baby D
You gonna dress up?
Mal
Hell, no. I haven't dressed up. Halloween.
Baby D
Why you and some cute girls should.
Mal
Be Joker and Harley Quinn.
Baby D
I had a stroke quickly I just couldn't remember. But yes. Harley Quinn.
Mal
Nah, I ain't dressing up from Halloween. Peaches dressed up. Peach is a pickle.
Baby D
Y' all can't see Peach? Go stand in front of my camera.
Mal
It's only a pickle because they didn't have no more hot dog costumes.
Baby D
She wanted to be a glizzy pickle. Are you Dill?
Mal
You want to be a glizzy?
Baby D
You, Dill? Are you a sweet pickle? Pause.
Mal
Is it. Is that what that is?
Baby D
Oh, yeah, that makes sense. Or did. Hey, Arnold dress up as a pickle?
Sponsor Voice
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Baby D
Yeah, it was something like that. But, yeah, we back. Rory still ain't here.
Mal
Rory is still on Rock the Rock the Bells crew. I saw a video. He posted a. He did, I guess a birthday shout out with somebody.
Baby D
He sent that to me, and I didn't. I didn't watch it, cuz I don't.
Mal
He had both arms around the shorty's neck. I've never seen the. Both arms around the neck. Yeah, that's nasty. Both arms around the neck is nasty.
Baby D
Yeah, he's.
Mal
You don't even know that.
Baby D
And why he digging in his nose and then touching her? Look. Look at him. Is he high? Is he on drugs?
Mal
He's probably. He's probably had a. A few songs here.
Baby D
Ah.
Mal
You know, he only on the cruise going. Sounds here. Crazy. So happy to kick it with you. No, you're not.
Baby D
Yo.
Mal
Somebody says Shorty recorded this video with a 1987 microwave. Yeah. Why does the video look like that? It looks a little pixelated.
Baby D
Yeah. What the. Is Roy. Roy is so awkward. Like, why. Just chill. Like, what is he doing?
Mal
He's nervous.
Baby D
He looks nervous.
Mal
He's nervous.
Baby D
He looked like it's his first time roofing somebody. Yeah, he don't know if it's gonna work.
Mal
He looked like he's snuck on the cruise, like he's not supposed to be there. Somebody noticed him and they wanted a video. So now he's kind of like. Well, I'm really not supposed to.
Baby D
Well, our episode.
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Our.
Baby D
Our episode without Rory got a lot of good reviews.
Mal
Did it?
Baby D
When y' all gonna fire that nigga?
Mal
See, this is how. This is how they. They gonna chop this up.
Baby D
What I do.
Mal
Post clips of this. What I say, Conspiring to fire Rory. They gonna have think pieces and Twitter spaces on this.
Baby D
He gonna be in the Twitter spaces. That's how we gonna find out.
Mal
He definitely gonna be in the Twitter spaces. If it's the Twitter spaces Rory is.
Baby D
In, it that's how we gonna find out.
Mal
So now that Halloween is here, how are we feeling about the year? Basically, year's over.
Baby D
Yeah.
Mal
You got about 60 more days before the new year. How do we feel about this year? Just everything that has unfolded. What does this year have? What does this year been to you? In very few words?
Baby D
Oh, transformative.
Mal
Transformative.
Baby D
Transform.
Mal
I like that word.
Baby D
This was a year of transformation. I knew it was coming though, because going into January, I know y' all could call me woo woo, whatever. I'm spiritual. I believe in that shit numerology, all of that. I kept seeing the. The angel number is 555. Which means that like, transformative. Yes. Like things were just going to change. And I thought it meant that, like I was going to like leave y' all niggas, but I'm still here. But other things I ended up leaving in my life and just changed. I got a new apartment, I moved back to Brooklyn. I stopped spinning the block, burnt the block down and ended up in a relationship very soon after. I've been more into my content creating journey, more into my YouTube journey. And yeah, things have just been shifting. Like I feel like I'm entering into a new stage of life. This year wasn't, wasn't bad. Outside of my dog dying to kick the year off and then dealing with other shit, work related at the top of the year. Other than that, the year has been like. It was not a bad year for me.
Mal
Oh, good. Yeah, that's good.
Baby D
Yeah.
Mal
As long as you can say it wasn't a bad year, it wasn't a bad. A lot of people had bad years. As long as you didn't have a bad year. Transformative. I like transformative. I think it's positive. I think you need to transform. I think you need to change. People avoid change. A lot of people.
Baby D
What about you?
Mal
For me, this year has been more of me standing on business.
Baby D
Okay, you, you do that every year?
Mal
Yeah, every year. Just more. Just more of me standing up.
Baby D
You know, sometimes it's okay not to stand up business. No, sometimes the business be you standing on a big box of never.
Mal
What box of us.
Baby D
I'm just, I did not point out any particular boxes. I'm just saying sometimes you don't got to stand on the box more. You can let the box fold it.
Mal
Or just in general.
Baby D
In general.
Mal
Oh, oh, yeah, No, I know that. But if I'm ever standing on. Okay, it's business. It's not a box of bullshit.
Baby D
Okay.
Mal
And then you know me though. I just, at the same time, I like ruffling feathers a little bit.
Baby D
I know, I'm aware.
Mal
Yeah, I like doing that.
Baby D
When do you. You think you ever grow out of that?
Mal
You can't.
Baby D
You can actually.
Mal
For what? If you don't, who's feathers need to be ruffled if you don't? If I'm not ruffling feathers, who's going to ruffle the feathers?
Baby D
You know that the Internet and social media and creating period has become nothing but ruffling feathers. Like, that's how people get big now is.
Mal
I don't spend a lot of time on social media no more. But I like that, though. I like opening social media after, like, days of not being on there and just seeing somebody, like, talk about their private life, because I have no idea what's going on. And I'm just trying to catch up so people be on your. I like the little, the little, like, away messages on Instagram now where people just, like, leave their business up there. You don't know what's happening, so you go to their page trying to play catch up. I like that.
Baby D
Mal, do you ever think that?
Mal
Nope, not good.
Baby D
This is a serious question.
Mal
Oh, this is a serious question?
Baby D
This is a serious question.
Mal
Oh, shit. All right, go ahead.
Baby D
Say we get canceled tomorrow.
Mal
Canceled.
Baby D
We get canceled tomorrow. It's believable with some of the shit y' all be saying. Yeah, we get canceled tomorrow. What is your next step? Because, and this is the conversation that I had with Rory, because I feel like you guys don't lean into all of the aspects of. Because you're technically content creators. It's long form content, but you're technically a content creator. And I feel like you guys don't lean into all of the different ways that other content creators, like, have variety. Right? As far as, like, affiliate marketing, like, for example, people want to know where you get your hats from. You could be getting commissions off like that. Like, you guys don't do things like that because you're too cool. And I get that. It's just, you're not just from that era. But what would be your next step? Would you go into short form content? Would you continue to make long form content in a different, like, way? Like, I always wondered that, like, what would you do? Would you retire?
Mal
I don't know about retire. I'm too young to retire.
Baby D
I hear that.
Mal
But I would find another way to pivot and do something with the audience and the platform that I built for sure. But retired, nah, you can't retire.
Baby D
Not yet we're not rappers. We can retire.
Mal
Nah, not yet, though. You can't retire yet.
Baby D
Do you ever feel too old to be doing this? And that's not an old joke, because I be feeling too old to do this sometimes.
Mal
I feel I. Now, if I was somebody on my social media who was, like, posting, like, trends, like, doing dances and like that, I'm probably a little too old. I'm probably too old for that.
Baby D
But some of the dances ain't that bad.
Mal
You could do a couple.
Baby D
You could shake a little something.
Mal
That's one thing I'm not doing. I ain't gonna lie. I hate, like, when, like, you got a crush on somebody and then you go to their page and you see them doing too many like. Like, trend. I'm like, all right, that right there. Yeah, that's a deal breaker for me. That's one of my deals. Oh, my God. Don't do too much trends. Don't do the baby boo trend. Don't do the my man, my man challenge. Like, when this. When a girl doing too many challenges, like, why you want to be challenged so much? How about you go in there and cook something? Challenge yourself to do that.
Baby D
They got cooking.
Mal
Stove is cold. Been cold for three days.
Baby D
Mall.
Mal
Yeah.
Baby D
Could you deal with. Could you date a girl that can cook, can't or wouldn't cook, that didn't cook or couldn't. Couldn't or didn't. Could you do that?
Mal
It's a difference.
Baby D
If she had enough money to feed you, she had enough money to feed you, but she didn't cook. Like Beyonce.
Mal
Beyonce doesn't cook. Who told you that?
Baby D
Beyonce.
Mal
She said she doesn't cook.
Baby D
She's been very vocal about her inability to cook. It's not her thing. She can't.
Mal
I never knew that. A woman from Texas that don't cook.
Baby D
A woman from Texas who grew up being a star.
Mal
Oh, yeah. She's been a baby.
Baby D
Ain't had a chance to.
Mal
She couldn't catch that.
Baby D
Exactly. But answer the question.
Mal
Would I date a woman that can't cook or couldn't cook or didn't know how to cook? Yeah.
Baby D
Seriously, you. You married?
Mal
I don't know about marriage. I don't know if we're gonna walk there.
Baby D
You're too old to be casually dating my date, though. Yes, but at this point, anybody you date, you should be aiming toward marriage with.
Mal
No, I shouldn't.
Baby D
Why not?
Mal
I should be aiming towards marriage with every girl I date from now on.
Baby D
You should be dating with intention at this point.
Mal
I intend on dating, yo. I intend on enjoying you and having a good time. Yeah. Marriage, though not every girl is like marriage. Some. Some people. See, that's the problem. Y' all go into relationships feeling like, oh, this has to be my person. Just enjoy the relationship. And if it grows into that, if it grows into that, then so be it. But don't go into it like, oh, this. This got to be my. This got to be my husband.
Baby D
But see, this is this. And this is. I've had this conversation with y' all about dating with intention. That doesn't. That's not what that means. It doesn't mean that, oh, this next person is my person. It means the moment I realize that this person ain't my person, I'm out. Because I'm looking for my person.
Mal
Oh, I do that anyway, though, as soon as I'm. It's like. It's not clicking, like.
Baby D
Yeah, but that's what I'm saying. So why would you. If you want your wife to be. To know how to cook, why would you continue to date somebody who didn't know how to cook or wasn't willing to learn how to cook? That's not dating.
Mal
Oh, no, no, no. You didn't say not willing to learn. You never said that. You said can't cook or didn't cook. All right, now, if she's willing to. Yeah, then let's learn to death. You know what I mean? Let's get some dishes together. That's part of relationships. You build on the weaknesses together and turn them into strengths. Now my baby is. She's chefing, cooking holiday dinners for the family, everything.
Baby D
You can't take a bitch that. You cannot take a girl in her 30s that ain't never cooked before and suddenly put her in charge of Thanksgiving.
Mal
I feel like you being a that. I'm saying when we first met, she couldn't cook nothing. Now we. A year into the relationship. She got four. Four course meals. She could. She could lay down on the table. Cuz cooking is not that hard. It's just repetition. That's all it is. You know that.
Baby D
It's a little bit. Yes. But you got to love it, and you got to. It takes practice. It takes practice to be a good cook. Because I might not know a recipe, but I know anything. Any recipe I try, it won't be nasty because I know how to cook.
Mal
How soon did you cook for your man?
Baby D
I told y', all, it's a. Two weeks, Three week? Four. Three, four. Three weeks.
Mal
Nah, nah. Them numbers is jumping. Around it's like the stock market.
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Three weeks.
Mal
How long? How long, baby D?
Baby D
Three. Three weeks. Two weeks. Two weeks. It was.
Mal
Now we back.
Baby D
It was two.
Mal
Four. We went to four. Now we.
Baby D
It was two weeks. I forgot. Flown out to Atlanta in two weeks. I cooked him for him for two weeks.
Mal
You got flown out in two weeks?
Baby D
I told you. You knew that.
Mal
You knew that and you cooked at his house?
Baby D
Yes, I told you that.
Mal
Yo, yo.
Baby D
I was in a relationship after my first date. I, like, I don't think like, I was when we first. When I first started dating him, I was kind of hush hush about this, like, because I just. It was all happening so quickly. I didn't really talk to the pop. I was in a relationship after my first date. Yeah, we didn't. We didn't play no games. Everybody told me I was getting love bombed. And here we are, months and months and months later. We didn't play no games.
Mal
So he's flying up for Halloween and y' all gonna be Lilo and Stitch.
Baby D
You said we gonna be Stitching in the girl version of Stitch. Her name is Angel.
Mal
Like, y' all going out like that, like, dress.
Baby D
We might. There's bars around my house. We might, like, step outside just to, like, with people. But no, we'll mainly be in the house. We got a lot of work to do.
Mal
We got a lot of work to do. I know that's right. Yo, anyway, I know red wine reduction. You said ma.
Baby D
You think if you were J. Prince for Halloween that people would recognize you, who you was?
Mal
I don't think I look like J. Prince as much as people say I do. I don't think I do.
Baby D
A little bit. You got the attitude, though. Like, if I get you a chain, shorter haircut, like a H Town ring.
Mal
And like a gun, I could be J. Prince. I don't think I look like him as much as people think. It's funny, though.
Baby D
No. That is my favorite person that people say you look like. People say me and you starting to look alike.
Mal
That's just racist. See, you supposed to. When people say that, you're supposed to be like, yo, yo, stop being racist. All black people don't look like black people that be saying, we do not look alike.
Baby D
We don't look alike.
Mal
Why are people saying that?
Baby D
I don't know. Because they're black.
Mal
They see two black people sitting next to each other and that's it. Kind of same complexion. That. So it's like, oh, yeah, but we.
Baby D
Not even really the same complexion at all. I'M lighter. A lot lighter than you.
Mal
Yeah, but, you know, that's. That's. That's just called racism. It's all good.
Baby D
There's a bunch of music coming out this weekend. I'm waiting for Josh to pull the list up. He pulled up a picture of J. Prince to prove to you that you don't look like J. Prince. And that funny as hell, I don't look like J.
Mal
Prince. Thank you, though, Josh.
Sponsor Voice
I appreciate that.
Baby D
I took a picture of J. Prince. Did you know who would J. Prince look like? Is that why you did that?
Mal
No, just for the audience.
Baby D
Oh, okay. They know who. J.
Mal
Prince. Yes. They send me a picture of him. Anytime he takes a picture, they send it to me. Yeah. So this weekend we got some new music dropping. I don't know why, because rap is in a. Rap is dead, right? That's what they said.
Baby D
That's what they said.
Mal
Hip hop is dead. Hip hop was dying. Nah, but we do got some good music coming out. Westside Gun, Ransom and DJ Premier. Shout out to Ransom and DJ Premier, Kodak Black, Offset, Big L album, Shout out to Mass Appeal, Another one of the Mass Appeal projects dropping. I'm looking forward to that. Slow Mo and Sauce Walker, just to name a few. I'm pretty sure there's more albums dropping.
Baby D
I know you excited about Kodak.
Mal
Oh, yeah. You know how I feel about Kodak.
Baby D
Yak Haunted By Fame is very. Didn't Offset just release the album? Is that like a deluxe or like a LP or something? He just really stopped.
Mal
I don't know if that's a. I mean, listen, Offset out there, he working. He got music in the vault. Put it out.
Baby D
Pay that child support.
Mal
He. No, he. He ain't gotta pay. He got off kind of. He got off kind of. All right. He got it. She got. Cardi gotta pay.
Baby D
That don't make sense, though. Cardi, she got full custody, if I'm not mistaken. Or, like, didn't it.
Mal
But didn't it come out? Cardi gotta give him money, though, right? I think he was trying to get the house, but I don't know if it's years old.
Baby D
Yeah.
Mal
I ain't gonna lie. I think Offset came out on top of that. I think he did.
Baby D
You was cheering for him. You was praying on Cardi Downfall, you hate.
Mal
No, I'm never playing on nobody's downfall, but I'm just saying, you know, it's good to see the man sometimes. Like, yo, yeah, Mom's gotta. She gotta do something too, though. Like, I get it, but yeah, she gotta kick in a little bit. Yeah, why not?
Baby D
Tell me if I'm wrong. Speaking of praying on downfalls, I was on live earlier today and I let it slip that I've prayed on people's downfall before. Like, any that I've, like, dated and he turned out to be a. I.
Mal
Prayed he got eaten any I've dated.
Baby D
Yeah.
Mal
So you knew he was a whore when you started?
Baby D
No, I didn't know. I mean, I would. I. I thought he was a turnkey whore. Like, I thought that it. He was. He was turning the key on his life. He was ready to open the door and be a husband.
Mal
Okay.
Baby D
That's what I. He. They weren't a few of them. And I wished ed on him. Like, I prayed. I prayed on the downfall of their dick.
Mal
But why am I wrong for that? Yes.
Baby D
Like, not speaking as a man, but like, just speaking as like, somebody that's been hurt before. Like, answer me.
Mal
Because that's why you're doing it, because you was hurt. So it's an emotional thing. It's like you reacting emotionally.
Baby D
Yeah, but everybody got like. Like there's.
Mal
Yeah, but you could be upset.
Baby D
There's repercussions to everybody actions. Like, you just not about to be out here throwing dick and think that your dick about to keep working. No, me and my stones is gonna make sure that that goes flexing.
Mal
You got crystals by your bed. You. You into witchcraft, huh? That's what you should have been for Halloween. Why don't you just be a witch? Be your true self. You wear a mask all year. Take the mask off. Take the mask off for Halloween. Why don't you show them that you're a real witch?
Baby D
You never prayed on a down ball. You telling me you never prayed that a woman.
Mal
Never.
Baby D
That a dude broke a woman heart? You never prayed on her downfall. Never the most toxic person on this podcast. And he always trying to that when you come to relationships, you.
Mal
So am I the most toxic person on the show? Thank you. Why you say I'm the most toxic person? Why do you. Why do you feel like I'm the most toxic person?
Baby D
The most toxic person.
Mal
Man, you don't know.
Baby D
You just know it ain't more. Huh?
Mal
I think I know who it is. But why do you say I'm the most toxic? No, no, no. What? No, I'm not doing that to my God. I'm not doing that. But why? Why you said I'm the most toxic person, though?
Baby D
Well, you have some very. In multiple ways, sometimes some ways that people Would think toxic. Yes.
Sponsor Voice
Name.
Mal
Just name one, please.
Baby D
Some of the ways that you think about women and men in the way that they should interact with each other in. In the world. People will say that we're talking.
Mal
How do I.
Baby D
You call men gay for everything?
Mal
Be gay.
Baby D
Okay. They do. They. Okay, hear me out. I'm with you. They do, right? But sometimes men just don't operate the way that you operate. And anything that you deem that you wouldn't do, you label as gay.
Mal
Like what?
Baby D
Or mental illness. It's either mall would do it or it's gay or it's mentally ill.
Mal
Okay, like what, though? I'm learning because if you listen, my thing is, if you feel like that's how I am. Interesting. But you got to tell me more.
Baby D
Interesting.
Mal
No, Interesting. I like. Cool. Like, tell me about myself. But I wanna. I wanna. I need examples, though. Like, you can't just say something.
Baby D
So, for example, the Internet, when you. It was a big deal on the Internet when you said that men who constantly cheat and constantly sleep with people and won't stop getting just. They just can't stop. They're gay. Some would say that they might just be addicted to sex. Right. But you are insistent that it's gay. I think you also said it was gay to have a fish tank.
Mal
Like, very good. You know why you. I'm gonna tell you why. You corny for that. You my nigga. I with you. But if you walked in a dude's house and he had a fish tank, you would. You would feel the same way.
Baby D
I would not feel that he was gay. I would not.
Mal
Yes, you would, man.
Baby D
Bro, I would not feel that he was gay. I would feel like, why would you take him serious? Maybe his grandmother gave him that fish tank.
Mal
They. They put the fish in the car. How they got the fish to his house.
Baby D
Grandma left the house and the fish tank.
Mal
If you walked in a man's house and he had like a serious fish tank.
Baby D
Serious. Like, are there fish in it?
Mal
Yes.
Baby D
What kind of fish?
Mal
I don't know.
Baby D
You got gold fish in a tank. I. You love animals just a little bit too much for me. And you need to love more serious animals. Like, if you can keep a goldfish alive, you a little bit too dedicated to the wrong shit.
Mal
So you telling me if you walked in the dude's house and he had a fish take you, you don't have no questions for him?
Baby D
I have questions, but that doesn't keep me from giving.
Mal
What's the first question?
Baby D
What kind of fish? Like, what possessed you to get fish? Like, do you really. With fish like that? Do you, like, think it looks dope? Like what? Like, how often do you clean your fish tank? Type, like, important. I don't ask him. Like, yo, do you get in the ass? Like. Cause this fish tank don't make no sense.
Mal
Okay.
Baby D
Do you like.
Mal
I think my logic makes sense, though. You still ain't. You still ain't convinced me of me being toxic yet, though. I'll give you another one. Give me another one. Okay. You said that. I said men who can't stop cheating on their girlfriend. Like, I said. I said they may be gay.
Baby D
The Internet killed you for that?
Mal
Well, yeah, it's gay people on the Internet.
Baby D
Okay?
Mal
I mean, just move me. Show me where I'm wrong.
Baby D
You know, we actually have a gay. A gay fan shout out to Christian, who every time you say anything that. That can even be deemed remotely homophobic, he writes me and he's like, see modern. This says some homophobic.
Mal
Again, I'm not homo. But people gotta see people. You gotta compartmentalize people correctly and get people to correct, like, terms. Yeah, Like, I'm not homophobic. So it's like, where's the homophobic? Why do you think I'm homophobic? Because I said, yo, if you got a fish tank, that's kind of gay. That's not me being homophobic, okay? Like, that's not. I don't care that you have a fish tank. If I walk in my homeboy crib, he got a fish tank. I'm like, yo, I ain't gonna lie. Homie might be gay. That's my homie, though.
Baby D
But how does that connect to male on male sexual activity, my guy?
Mal
I mean, it's not really male on male. Gay is just like, you know, that's just gay. Like, you know that's gay, fam.
Baby D
What you doing a negative connotation?
Mal
No, not negative. It's a fish tank. But it's like you take the fish out and put them, like, in a smaller bowl and then clean it, like, and then put the water back in the gravel. No, that's gay. You eat no mad other when you doing that. You got mad time on your hands, fam. Having mad time on your hands is gay. Like when you ain't got nothing to do. Like you ain't got nothing to do.
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Baby D
But that's not fair. Because they care about their fish, but can't care about their fish. Cause you a non pet ass. People can't care about their fish.
Mal
I love animals.
Baby D
But do you have one?
Mal
Nah.
Baby D
Because will say you don't have a dog. That's gay.
Mal
Nah, see, that's.
Baby D
See now, but when you do it, it ain't gay.
Mal
And a certain type of dog you got, you gotta have a certain type of dog.
Baby D
Like what. What dog is. Makes you not good.
Mal
Niggas can't have no teacups, man. Can't have no. No toys.
Baby D
That's how I know. You don't know ball or. Cause teacups get you girls.
Mal
No, they don't.
Baby D
Yes, it do.
Mal
A want a teacup, you get her a tea. You not hollering at. See, this is why I ain't with you. Who not you not talking to no man that's walking down the street with a teacup. A Yorkie I have.
Baby D
That means you know, you know how to be tender and soft. You can't just throw no teacup around.
Mal
And what else? Tender, soft.
Baby D
Nah, you can't throw no teacup.
Mal
Say it.
Baby D
Hear me out.
Mal
All right?
Baby D
You can't throw no teacup around the way you could throw them bulldogs around. You see what I'm saying? You gotta be gentle.
Mal
You can be gentle with a bigger dog.
Baby D
You can.
Mal
Yeah, see that's the. You don't think you can be gentle with a pit bull or a cane corso or like I don't want no.
Baby D
Nigga with a cane corso. Cause you niggas is not dog trainers. You niggas are not the fucking canine.
Mal
If I had him since he was a puppy. Yeah.
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Baby D
That don't mean shit, bro. A cane corso in New York City.
Mal
Dog will do whatever I tell him to do.
Baby D
A cane corso in New York City is not getting enough exercise.
Mal
I still don't see how you think I'm toxic, but I'll take it. Only because it's Halloween. I'll be toxic, man. For Halloween.
Baby D
For Halloween.
Mal
Yeah, we all taking our mouth. I'll be Captain Toxic. I'll be Captain Toxic for Halloween, no worry.
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Baby D
So you guys interviewed Salehi? That, that interview is out right now.
Mal
Yes. Episode with Salehi. Shout out to Salehi for coming through. You know, sharing some of his time and some of his story with us. One of my favorite, one of my favorite designers. I love seeing everything soleil is doing that. He's a product of New York, so anytime there's somebody from the city, I got a root for him.
Baby D
Leave us any, like, you know, treats. Any.
Mal
Any sneakers? No, not yet, but he did say he'll send some. Some boxes out, so we'll see. But he usually does, though. Soleil usually sends some. Some. Some kicks out for us and so. Shout out to Salehi. Episode available now. We had fun talking to Saleh. We've been trying to get him to come through for a minute, but, you know, schedules and, you know, he's busy, so it was good to. It was good to have him come by the studio and finally kick it with us.
Baby D
That's good.
Mal
I had a good time. That's good.
Baby D
What's going on with the Blue Jays? You know, you got to keep me updated on sports now that Rory isn't here with his terrible.
Mal
It's called Poetic justice, baby. D. That's what it's called. You know what I'm saying? You know, poetic justice. You know, Janet and Tupac.
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Mal
Well, this is the Blue Jays and the Dodgers. This is the new. This is the 2025 edition of Poetic Justice. The Blue Jays are up 3, 2, but, you know, job not done. Great words of Kobe Bryant. Job not finished. Job not done. They up three, two. One more game, one more win. So hopefully, you know, they'll close it out at home in Toronto and give the city something to celebrate.
Baby D
So who's this one baseball player you. You keep talking about? I think he plays for the Dodgers.
Mal
Shohei Otani.
Baby D
Otani.
Mal
Yes. He's the greatest baseball player ever.
Baby D
I'm calling it, like, damn, Babe Ruth.
Mal
Like, I don't want to hear nothing about. I'm not even calling Herman Ruth. He was black, though. A lot of people don't know Babe Ruth was a black man.
Baby D
His name is Herman.
Mal
Yeah.
Baby D
Okay, cool.
Mal
You know that.
Baby D
Okay.
Mal
George Herman Ruth.
Baby D
So you're. You're standing on that because I might have peach clip that greatest baseball player of all time.
Mal
Shohei Otani is the greatest baseball player ever? Yes. I'm calling it. I'm calling it. He is.
Baby D
That means a lot from you, being that he's a Dodger and you don't like giving LA no props.
Mal
Nah, I give LA props. I give LA props. I just, you know, I just thought that the way it aligned with the Blue Jays and the Dodgers playing the World Series was just kind of like, you know, everything that happened last year was just kind of cool. That's all. It was just A cool, cool storyline.
Baby D
You think we'll ever be out of that? Like anytime Toronto and LA come together for anything, you think we'll ever be like out of, like that'll ever be safe to talk about? Like we'll be out of the zone for that?
Mal
No, I think there's still a, it's a low key. It's gonna take a while for that, for that to kind of like fade away, like. But I mean it's not a true rivalry yet. Like definitely not in sports. I don't think Toronto and LA are rivals in any sports. But you know, just the storyline just kind of lines up pretty well. So it was fun to watch this World Series just to kind of like, you know, everything that was going on on Twitter, people saying different cities, you know, talking they shit, it's just fun, man. So I think all of it is, isn't fun. None of it is serious. Like it's not a, you know, I don't want people to think that it's like serious and you know, let's just have fun, man. It's just part of the storyline for us to talk shit and have fun with it. But it was a good, good matchup the other night. It went like 18 innings. I watched the whole game. Game was like six hours or some change. Yeah, it was crazy. But it was a great game though.
Baby D
Do they get overtime?
Mal
Overtime? No.
Baby D
Yeah, like overtime pay.
Mal
They don't get paid by the hour, Damaris. They get paid by the seasons, by the years. If you sign four years, 200 million. Yes. You get your 200 million. At the end of the four years you will have gotten 20 million.
Baby D
There's like, so there's like no like add ons. Like hey, if you play a game for longer than four hours, like you get a bonus. $10,000.
Mal
I do think though, I'm not sure, Pete, if they do the same thing at the NBA. I don't know if they get more money when they win each series in the playoffs. You know, in the NBA you get teams get bonuses based on if they win the first round, second round finals, you get a bonus. I don't know if the MLB does that though.
Baby D
Yeah, when I was younger I found out about the no salary cap on mlb. Yeah. For the players.
Mal
Ohtani's contract is crazy. So he's getting like $2 million a year. Which is like crazy that they're paying him that up until the last year. His contract he gets I think close to like 600 million. So they did it like that. So that they still have money to go out and get other players. So I think they're gonna make a rule change, though. Cause that's kind of like, it's kind of unfair to have a player like him and you're not paying him yearly on the books. Like, you still have so much flexibility to go out and pay and get other big name players. But. Yeah, just the no salary cap in baseball allows you to do like that, though.
Baby D
Like I was telling the girls, like, hey, the NBA players, they get injured too easily.
Mal
So we should go after MLB players.
Baby D
Not we. Me personally.
Mal
Well, not you. Yeah, but the girl. Just the women.
Baby D
The whores that. Well, I don't want to call them whores because they're women. I want to call them whores because the ones that are willing to sell, they go to, like, a higher.
Mal
Okay, compartmentalize. Call them what they are. Sex workers.
Baby D
Okay.
Mal
Ain't no problem, nothing. I love sex workers. I love sex workers. No, those are. I said it during the pandemic. Those were our first responders. We should have gave them the same praise we gave the nurses and the doctors. I'm on record saying that. Like, I'm not joking. Like, I said my record saying, yeah, it's the sex workers. You need them. We absolutely need the sex workers.
Baby D
Did you pay any of them to. In the pandemic?
Mal
Sex workers?
Baby D
Yes.
Mal
No, I didn't.
Baby D
See, I'm not like. And this what I be talking about, but I'm not.
Mal
I'm not in that world. I don't. I don't go to, like, strip clubs where.
Baby D
So where were you finding women?
Mal
I paid them respect.
Baby D
Yeah, where were you finding women during the pandemic? Because I hear you on any other good. Any given time, but when were. Where were you finding women during the pandemic?
Mal
Finding women.
Baby D
Yeah.
Mal
I mean, in life, I walk outside right now, I might bump into a nice young, young woman.
Baby D
Yeah, that's right now. But when we were all in the house, scared, spraying our cereal down.
Mal
I got women in real life. I got women in my phone. I got friends that I talk to. I caught a lot of friendly fire during the pandemic because everybody was depressed.
Baby D
Friendly head, that.
Mal
Friendly head when it's unsuspected.
Baby D
How is head unsuspected, baby?
Mal
Cause if one of your homegirls come to your crib and y' all never did nothing before, y' all just be chilling in the crib, watching tv. She might cook, smoke, chill, whatever. And then, you know, it just happened. Like, that's that head yeah, it was a lot of that during the pandemic.
Baby D
So you had to have been attracted to her, though, because how you just. You can't go from just smurmy to brick off somebody you wasn't attracted to that just pulled your dick out. It don't work like that. Or does it? I don't know.
Mal
Yeah. Yes and no. But it was like. It wasn't an attraction. Like, I had ever tried to, like, sleep with any of my. My homegirls before. Nah. But sometimes it happens. It's like, yo, you know, she. You know how y' all get. Y' all get horny, too, when we get horny.
Baby D
I've never got horny enough to my homeboy. Never got. Bro, let me tell you something. I've never got horny enough to my homeboy, bro. Never.
Mal
You don't got no cool homeboys?
Baby D
No, I have mad cool homeboys, but if I wanted to beat, I would beat before they became the homeboy. Like, I'm not even gonna allow you to get the homeboy territory if you was somebody that I would be.
Mal
You ever got curved before?
Baby D
I went up to this one dude and I was like, hey, what's up? He's like, I have a girlfriend. I was like, oh, my God. Yo, me, he think I'm ugly.
Mal
That don't count.
Baby D
I was like, see that? He think I'm ugly.
Mal
Wait, wait, wait. No, no, no, no. See, that's up. That's not a curve. That's not a curve. He has a girlfriend now if he's single. And he said that, that's a curve.
Baby D
Let me hold your hand when I say this. If a really wants you, that girlfriend don't matter.
Mal
Nah, don't do that. Don't do that.
Baby D
That girlfriend. You're not saying that girlfriend.
Mal
You're right.
Baby D
Told me you had a girlfriend because you wanted me to leave you the alone.
Mal
Or he don't want to cheat on his girl.
Baby D
Everybody wants to cheat on their girl.
Mal
See, but when I say it, baby, we be saying the same. But when I say it, it's a problem. You say it. It's supposed to be like. Yeah, that's what it is.
Baby D
You ever see you not a girl? So you understand. You know the worst kind of. Who gonna look you in your face and say, like, I like, oh, what's up? Like, you. You with somebody? Be like, unfortunately, I have a girlfriend. Have said to me, unfortunately, I have.
Mal
A girl girlfriend, Unfortunately. Why are you in that relationship then? Unfortunately? It's crazy.
Baby D
Unfortunately. Just let me know.
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Mal
Just. Why are people, why are people scared to be single? Like, why. Why are people afraid to be alone? Because a girl asked me the other day, she said, yo, your problem is you're comfortable being alone. And that could be a problem. No, that could be a problem.
Baby D
It can be a problem.
Mal
It can be a problem. I think for me it's becoming a problem because I don't take, I'm very. You know how they say it's strict around here? Yeah, very strict.
Baby D
It's not about being comfortable being alone. I think your problem is that your preference is being alone. Your preference is being alone. But deep down inside you don't want to be alone. Like, I know you, I know that eventually you want to be partnered. Partnered up. Family is big to you. You want to have a family, right?
Mal
Yeah.
Baby D
You want all those things. It becomes a problem because right now your preference is to be alone. So you're not willing to sacrifice your aloneness to get to your long term goal. The way that I'm not willing to sacrifice getting up and going to the gym every morning even though I ate it for abs. As bad as I want abs. I really like being on my couch. I'm not gonna get to my long term goal because I'm used to short term comfort. That's what you are right now. Short term comfort. Being in a relationship, dating, all of those things. Having to deal with somebody. You don't feel like dealing with it right now. But long term, you want the family, so you're gonna have to eventually do that.
Mal
I'm dated.
Baby D
Yeah, you've dated, but you know what I mean, ma, you're, you're quick, you strict. And when you're strict.
Mal
Yeah, if I'm dating somebody and she's lying, like she's lying to me. Yeah. I'm not gonna be with a liar. Who wants to be with a liar?
Baby D
That's the only issues is that they're liars.
Mal
I mean lies, lies turn into big issues. You lying about something, da, da, da. And they come to find out, oh, you still talking to this guy and that guy and this guy.
Baby D
It's like, but ma, that ain't your only problem. I've seen you drop women before and it wasn't cause they were liars.
Mal
What was it because of?
Baby D
We not gonna get into that.
Mal
We can. I wanna know, I wanna know what you think about it. Like what you think? Am I just like, just dumping women for no reason?
Baby D
No, but I remember one girl had a situation with a friend. She was being a good Friend to a friend, and it made you uncomfortable. Do you remember that?
Mal
Yes. That didn't make me uncomfortable. See, if you gonna tell her, you gotta tell a real story that's not made. She started moving funny. You ain't tell that part all of a sudden. FaceTime. Every time I FaceTime, you don't answer, but you call me right back. And then you outside, like, outside your crib, calling me like, you moving. That's funny movements.
Baby D
But she was letting somebody stay with her, so maybe she didn't want to interrupt what they had going on, so she stepped outside to talk to the phone.
Mal
What they got going on. Why you can't talk to me on the phone if you got or somebody in your career. All right, see, that's what you've been trying to paint me. Don't paint me. Like, if you're gonna paint me, use the right colors. My. That's the problem. Don't put the. Put the right palette out there. Don't put the wrong palette. Yeah, if you moving funny. If we dating and you moving funny and I'm peeping shit. Cause you know how you the same. You do the same. Once we see Pat once, we used to a pattern, and then patterns start to change, and then energy starts to change, and then behavior starts to change. We gotta start asking why? Like, yo, what's up? You all right? What's going on? Like, we usually, like, speak before we go to sleep. We usually get on the phone. We usually do this da, da, da, long work. Call me. You know what I'm saying? It's like all of a sudden, and then, lo and behold, you got somebody staying with you. Now you got a friend staying with you. What am I supposed to think? And we talked about this. Me and you spoke about this. I was like, yo, Baby D, if you had a guy living with you, one of your male friends, and you had a man, like, would you think he would be happy with that? And you was like, I don't know. But you would make sure that you are extra attentive, extra energy just to show and prove, like, yo, it ain't. This is just a homie in a rough spot right now. You know, you shacking up, staying in my crib, da, da, da, Right? You would make sure you do the things to make your man.
Baby D
I would.
Mal
So now when it's the other way, when energy starts to shift and it goes the other way, you got a question like, yo, what's going on? I'm wrong for that?
Baby D
No.
Mal
So why are you trying to pay Me that way. I'm trying to tell the right story. I love being in relationships. I just don't take bullshit.
Baby D
You love being in relationships. All right, See, Hear me out. Right? I'm here to hear you out.
Mal
You know why that's whack? Because you can't even. Baby, you can't even name girls I've been with. So it ain't even like I'm outside going crazy.
Baby D
No, I'm not. I'm not saying. That's one thing I won't say. I won't say that you're a. I won't say that. I don't think that you're outside going crazy. I think you're a little sneak. Sneaky. But you're not outside going crazy.
Mal
Oh.
Baby D
Oh, you're private. I'm sorry. You're private.
Mal
Because that is considered sneaky now, right? Yeah, it is private. That's crazy.
Baby D
You're a podcast. You're a private podcaster. You sneaky.
Mal
No, I just.
Baby D
I don't know no private podcasters.
Mal
What you mean?
Baby D
What you mean, what I mean? I know all podcasters. Business. I don't know none of your. Well, I know some of yours because.
Mal
I work with you, but who? Joe Rogan dating.
Baby D
Is Joe Rogan married? Look, he's married. Yeah.
Mal
You didn't know that?
Baby D
I did know that.
Mal
That's why I know you asked the question. You didn't know that. What's his wife's name?
Baby D
I want.
Mal
I don't know exactly. See what I'm saying? A lot of. Be private.
Baby D
Jessica Rogan.
Mal
Jessica Rogan. Jessica.
Baby D
At the end of the day, I want. Told you. I knew it was Jessica. I knew it was Jessica. Like, I wasn't making that up.
Mal
Okay. Girl got a black daughter.
Baby D
He did. Black woman, previous marriage. Oh, okay.
Mal
I did not know that. I didn't know.
Baby D
From dating a black man to Joe Rogan. That pissed you off, didn't he?
Mal
Oh, she has a black daughter. He has a black daughter.
Baby D
She does.
Mal
Oh, she does. Oh, okay. I thought you said Joe Rogan. As I want to say, how did we not know that?
Baby D
But the reason why I was saying this is because I want the listenership to understand you a little bit better. So, yes, you are comfortable. You do like. You do like having a companion. You do. But you also like your freedom, and you don't like explaining yourself.
Mal
That's not true, Ma.
Baby D
You don't like your freedom.
Mal
We all like our freedom.
Baby D
You didn't look me in my face and tell me that if you. If Two women could just get along, Y' all could all be happy. And you was dead ass. You were not podcast. And we were off mic when you said that.
Mal
Yeah, yeah. What's wrong with that, though?
Baby D
There's nothing wrong with it. Right.
Mal
Being honest.
Baby D
Me and you have had a conversation that I would be open to that I would not. Not with you. Let me clarify. You know how to rumor mill starts, but I will be open to the same type of dynamic. Yeah, Right. So I get you on that.
Mal
Yeah.
Baby D
But you do know that there's not a lot of people that would give you that. Me and Rory have told you a million times that the type of women that would give you that, those aren't the type of women that you want. They're more sexually fluid or free women. That's not what you like. You like good girls.
Mal
So what's a good girl? Don't do this. I'm just saying, when you say things, I just want to know what's a good girl?
Baby D
What. What would be with the. What society would deem as a good girl?
Mal
We're going off of society.
Baby D
Well, society. Because what I deem as a good girl is completely different.
Mal
Okay.
Baby D
Right. So what society would deem as a good girl would be women who have not. I don't want to say haven't really explored, but they tend to just be in relationships. Regular, pure vanilla, monogamous relationships that last a little while. They don't really super, super date. They tend to just stick to one person and low body count, all of those things. That's what. People don't party a lot. That's what men deem as good girls. Stay in the house, don't go out a lot, work their little jobs, being able.
Mal
I don't know if I consider that a good girl.
Baby D
That's not what I consider a good girl either.
Mal
I get how somebody would think that. That's.
Baby D
But that's. That's what men tend to think.
Mal
How did you meet your boyfriend?
Baby D
So Instagram. How did this become about me? We talking about you.
Mal
I'm just. No, this is about us. I'm just trying to get to know you about Halloween. It's scary. I'm just trying to scare you. I was. Right now I'm just trying to get to know you on Halloween. So y' all met on Instagram?
Baby D
Yeah.
Mal
Okay.
Baby D
He. He followed me and then I followed him back. I don't follow him in back. I told him. I told him every day. He caught me on a good day. I follow him back because he had what he did in his description and it's about me. So I followed him back.
Mal
And then it was about you.
Baby D
No, in his about me section.
Mal
Oh, I thought you said Instagram. He had what he did for a living.
Baby D
No, he had. He did. He had what he did for bit a little. So he. Yeah, he followed me. I followed him back. He slid in my DMs and said, this can't. He said, this can't be a coincidence. And no, no, that was.
Mal
That's what he said. This can't be a coincidence that it.
Baby D
Can'T be a coincidence that I'm coming.
Mal
Up to New York. That worked, yo. See, that's what we did because we've been sitting here trying to clown dudes like that. They be saying. And like, yo, that's what he said. It worked, though. Yo, this can be a coincidence. Now if I told a girl that you would come in here and kill me for.
Baby D
He said it can't be a coincidence that he, he's gonn York shortly. Because he's not. He doesn't live here. He's going to be in New York shortly. That I follow him back and that he. Oh, and that he just seen a clip of me online from the podcast. He said, that can't be a coincidence that you follow me back. I said, maybe not. He was cute. He had what he did in his description and he slid in. It was. He caught me on a good day. Remember Maul? So you know the clip that he saw me was the clip where you were trying to teach me how to casually date. Remember when me and you had that.
Mal
Thing and I said, I'm done spinning the block.
Baby D
I want to learn how to casually date. And you were like, you can't casually date. You're going to be in a relationship in two days. Remember that conversation? Yeah, that was the clip that he saw. So he was like, we were talking about speed dating, all of that. So he knew that I was single. So he did, you know, I was trying to try new things. I don't usually answer my DMs. I don't usually follow men back. I was trying to do something new.
Mal
Are you one of those girls that when you get in a relationship, you know, your homegirls don't see you no more?
Baby D
My homegirls? No, because I just take them everywhere with me. So, like, explain me and my boyfriend's second date, Alex came with us. Like, we, I, I bring my homegirls with me. Like the boo boos. Like for his birthday. Alex came with us.
Mal
Like little boo Boos.
Baby D
Yeah, like, for his birthday when we went out with his. Like, we went out. Alex came with us. Like, I bring my friends.
Mal
Wait. For his birthday?
Baby D
It.
Mal
Was it a party?
Baby D
It was a birthday dinner. And then we went to the club after Alex came with us. She ordered food for the table.
Mal
Oh, but that don't count if it was a birthday dinner. If he's having a dinner. Like, yeah, his friends was there.
Baby D
Yeah, but that. Yeah, he had one or two friends, but that doesn't matter because Alex is damn near Mary. So it wasn't like a. Like a.
Mal
It wasn't like y' all was supposed to be one on one and you bring your girl.
Baby D
Oh, yeah. But no, he took us to Alex to dinner. He took us to the strip club on our second day. That was our second date. Yeah.
Mal
That's cool. That was. That was very gentleman, like, of him.
Baby D
You gotta. You gotta get. If you want to be my lover, you gotta get with my friends type. Like, that's. I don't. I don't do that. I don't disappear on my friends. My friends are my life. Okay, but you do, though, you disappear on us when you get coupled up, when you really like somebody.
Mal
I've been with you every week.
Baby D
My. When you was dating that girl in la, man, and we was in la, man, we ain't. I was in your hotel. I had your key card.
Mal
But even when I see you, but even if I'm not dating somebody, like, you not gonna see me.
Baby D
Look.
Mal
Right or wrong. Peach. I saw Peach. I bumped into Peach by accident in our hotel. He was at the bar.
Baby D
Peach said, cannonball contest in 30 minutes.
Mal
Yeah, like, I just bumped into Peach. Like, when we travel and we go out, like, I don't really like. Cause we there for. First of all, we there for work. So it's like, all right, cool. But if I have some downtime and then it's la, I got a bunch of friends in la, so I'm always doing, like, like, my own thing. Never. We in la. Like. But I. If. If you hit me and be like, yo, let's.
Baby D
I did hit you. I said, yo, Marlo, I'm at the pool. Come through the pool. They got good calamari. Like, they got good, like, vegan tacos. You was like, nah, keto on stairs for you.
Mal
Yeah. Cause you wanted to. You wanted to go by the pool.
Baby D
Why you ain't come to the pool?
Mal
I left the key at the front desk for you because you wasn't alone.
Baby D
And that's the end of that any like that?
Mal
I was alone.
Baby D
You was alone?
Mal
Yeah, I left the hotel. I left. I wasn't at the hotel. When you was at the hotel, I left. That was the whole thing. I said, while I'm leaving the key downstairs. In other words, I would've been like, yo, I would meet you and just go upstairs with you, but I was leaving.
Baby D
Okay.
Mal
Yeah. I don't see. Don't paint me as that guy. I'm not the guy that gets in a relationship, and all of a sudden, my homies don't see me or don't talk to me. I'm not that guy. Like, if I'm in a relationship, like, more. Nine times out of ten, my homies know who the girl is. We all hang out, come out of crib, chill. Like, see, y' all got me all wrong. Y' all be trying. But it's interesting. I like hearing how people perceive me and, you know, how they. What they think about me being.
Baby D
Well, not every isn't here. Like, I like giving you the chance to, like, clear things up, you know, clear the air about certain things that people feel about you.
Mal
Or. Is there anything else I need to clear? Because I could clear it all up if you want me to. Anything. Just while we here, if there's anything else you feel like, yo, clear this up. Yo, they say this or I'm hearing this, like. Like, just give it to me.
Baby D
Whatever. On your ass about the. And I don't want to make this a whole Drake thing, but when it comes to standing on a big box of business, when it came to the Drake thing, one of the things that I got killed as a producer and Josh got killed as a producer for is when they said that there's going to be. When you said that there's more evidence to come. Apparently, in an appeal, there is no more new evidence to be presented. The evidence.
Mal
I said there's more evidence to come.
Baby D
Or I said, you said there's more things. You said there's more things that. That obviously Drake knows that his lawyers know that will come to light. And what we got killed for. For not researching. But we're not lawyers. We're podcast producers. Was that in appeals, there is no new evidence. The evidence that was presented in the original case is all the evidence. The evidence that there is. There can't be no new.
Mal
I said it was gonna be new evidence. Or did I say his lawyers know that? We don't know.
Baby D
Yes, but even if. Okay, so even if his lawyers know that we don't know that would be. And you said it would come out, but new evidence, it. That won't affect the trial. Are you seeing what I'm saying? Like, that won't affect the case because no new evidence can be presented. So whatever evidence they have or whatever they claim to have known, they've already presented it. They can't present any new. So that's why I said that, you know, now that you have that information, because I. That was me and Josh's job to give you that information. Do you still agree that there's a chance that they will win that appeal?
Mal
Yes.
Baby D
Okay.
Mal
Okay.
Baby D
All right. That changed things for me.
Mal
Okay, but. And that's. That's cool. I understand it. I just have more insight on things than most people.
Baby D
Okay, but you know that. That insight, if the judge, like, the judge has all the insight that they need, you can't present any new insight to the judge.
Mal
Right. But this, again, not to that. That judge. Not to that court.
Baby D
Okay?
Mal
So now when we go to another court, that judge or that court might find that that evidence is definitely enough to pursue whatever they're trying to pursue. Okay. That's all.
Baby D
All right. I just want. I did want to reiterate and bring that back up because I think that that's something that I didn't cover in the next episode, and that's my fault as a producer. But just to harken back on that.
Mal
But things like that is, like, that's just opinion. That ain't like me standing on business. People, you know, they don't. People. You know why? You know why? It looks weird when you see somebody standing on business and you see somebody stand, like, literally. Cause people say it, but niggas don't do it. So if you see somebody doing it, it's a little awkward for people. Like, oh, damn, he really, like. It's like, yeah. So if I say something and I mean it, yeah, I'm a stand on that. That's foreign to a lot of people. A lot of people say it like, loyalty is a tattoo these days. A lot of niggas ain't loyal. You know that. Niggas have loyalty, wisdom all over they body. Be a dumb, dishonest nigga. Like, loyalty, wisdom, honor, all of the things human.
Baby D
No, humble.
Mal
All of the things family over foe, family over everything got humble on the chest. Mad obnoxious, like, yeah, like, you know that. That. So, yeah. So when you see somebody say something and, yeah, they stand on it, that's like, damn, he ain't. Yeah. Cause I'm not like I'm not like the rest of y'.
Baby D
All.
Mal
Like I'm not. Not like us.
Baby D
Yeah, well, since you said that you don't see us when you get into a relationship, I'm forcing you out today. You see I got my hooker boots on for our date that we going on.
Mal
I see you got your Julia Roberts Pretty Woman. That's a pretty woman. You know, the pretty woman boots. Yo, you got your pretty woman boots on?
Baby D
Yeah, we outside. What's up?
Mal
I mean, yeah, so you said you wanted to go. Since we don't. We don't hang out, so we're gonna hang out.
Baby D
We don't. Now that Rory's gone, we could just do so much. We can get so much.
Mal
Yeah, we're hanging out a little bit today. Yeah.
Baby D
So for the Patreon, we're gonna do a vlog esque kind of episode. You're gonna take me out, have some. Have some conversations, talk about some stuff. You're gonna show me how to pick out a good sneaker because you know I suck at that. Okay, so we're gonna do some. Why you acting like this? Your first time hearing it? Yo.
Mal
No, no, I'm saying. Okay, we're gonna do that.
Baby D
Okay.
Mal
Today's the day. We're gonna go outside. You know what I'm saying? Run around a little bit. The weather's a little nasty, but it's okay. Yeah, move around a little bit. Go get something to eat.
Baby D
So if you don't have. If you don't have Patreon, make sure you go and sign up for Patreon. For all the people that complain about the ads, I mean, we gotta get paid. A lot of people that complain about the ads. $5 a month, you get ad free episodes. Every single one of our episodes. Ad free. On Patreon, you also get access to four years of past Patreon content. So when we run. When you run out of episodes for the week, you need something else to listen to. Go listen to one of our older episodes that are on Patreon. There's hundreds of them.
Mal
Ad free.
Baby D
Ad free. Yeah. Yeah, you can do that. So, yeah, we're gonna. You're gonna see me and Ma's vlog.
Mal
But you gotta pick out. We're gonna go. We're gonna go sneaker shopping. But I want to see what your sauce is. I want to see what type of. You would normally pick up. And I'll let you know if those is those. Is it or not?
Baby D
So I dress like. I dress like my sneaker game Is kind of like Rory's. If. If I didn't want to appear homeless. Like, you know how Rory has, like, that homeless look to him?
Mal
Rory has a homeless look.
Baby D
You know what I'm talking about? Like that hipster homeless look, right? Like that hipster homeless color palette. Like, he wants to blend in, like, underneath the brown box. Yeah, like that, you know. You know, exactly.
Mal
Y' all don't want to blend it with the homeless.
Baby D
Yeah, so I. It's kind of like that. Like, the neutrals. Cool, sleek. Not anything really, really funky. The only, like, funky kind of shoes I have are the ones that, like, shout out to Joe, like, Joe Fresh Goods or like New Balance sends me. I didn't pick those out. And then I wear them, but okay, I don't really.
Mal
All right, so we gotta get your sneak. We gotta get you. We gotta get your pallet. Your sneaker palette up a little.
Baby D
Yeah. We gotta talk. Oh, let's play the numbers game and see who could get the most numbers.
Mal
Oh, hell no, baby. I'm a grown man. You think I'm about to be outside, like, yo, let me go get her number.
Baby D
You just said you step outside and meet people in real life.
Mal
Yeah, but I don't go outside. I don't go outside with that objective, though.
Baby D
He was an Instagram fisher.
Mal
No, no, but this is an objective. I'm going outside with the goal of getting numbers. I haven't done that in years. I can't do that. But, you know, we might. We might bump into, you know, a pretty young lady on the way who. You know what I'm saying? We might have a little, you know, connection. She might be at the sneaker store looking at some.
Voicemail Caller
Some.
Mal
Some good feats.
Baby D
You can be offended if she want. You know, you don't like gay people. You can be offended if she want me and not you.
Mal
You said, I don't. Why are you telling people I don't?
Baby D
Are you gonna be offended if she want me and not you?
Mal
Why would. I'm never baby D. On 44 years on this planet, I never woke up and was a hater. Not one day did I ever wake up and say, I'm a hate. I'm gonna be a hater today.
Baby D
That's it. You done came into work and said, nah, it we on bullshit. I'm hating today. You.
Mal
Oh, who never, Never. Whoever hated on peace. No, I never. I don't hate on nobody Dumas. I don't know what be having going on and hate it. I don't know what none of these is doing. So, no, I'm not a hater. I ain't gonna be no hater. Never a hater. But we're gonna have fun, though. We definitely gonna look at some sneakers and go get something to eat. And hopefully maybe you can even go to the movies, since you said never take you to the movie.
Baby D
You don't.
Mal
We go to the movies today. Rooftop pool in the rain Rooftop pool in the rainbow that sound like a song.
Baby D
So, speaking of hating, Josh has just informed me that apparently Glorilla and Meg are beefing.
Mal
And Meg are beefing?
Baby D
Yeah.
Mal
Weren't they just on tour?
Baby D
Yes, they were.
Mal
So is this a real beef, or is the Internet just trying to cook up a beef?
Baby D
I feel like this is, like a brisket.
Mal
They slow. They slow cooking this brisket.
Baby D
So what I'm seeing is that Glorilla apparently liked to tweet about Megan being upset that Glorilla outsold her. Right. If Meg. If globe.
Mal
Megan liked the tweet.
Baby D
No GLOW like the tweet about Megan being upset. Somebody tweeted something about Megan being upset Glorilla outsold her, and apparently Glorilla liked that tweet now.
Mal
Oh, okay.
Baby D
Glorilla might have just been fishing and accidentally liked it on accident. That happens. That does. I've accidentally liked tweets on accident.
Mal
And then you unlike it.
Baby D
They might have screenshotted it before she got a chance. You might not even notice that you like something. Not accident. I'm giving her the benefit of the doubt, right?
Mal
Fair if.
Baby D
If it was like.
Mal
But fair if your boyfriend said some like that. I ain't like. I don't like. I don't know. Shorty eyes. I like the picture by accident. You ain't rolling.
Baby D
I'm rolling.
Mal
No, you.
Baby D
I'm. I'm a lot more understanding than you think, Ma.
Mal
No, you're not. You're a lot less understanding than you think.
Baby D
No, I'm very understanding. I'm very understanding. Now I'm gonna go like a picture, like, in perpetuate. Like, I'm gonna keep, like, other pictures and say I did an accident. Like, I get my light back. I didn't get my light lick back, But I'm gonna be understanding and forgive you. But that's not the point. The point is, apparently that's what happened. Now, maybe it was on accident. Maybe it was on purpose. Whatever. Now, I do know that there was some. Some the fans were trying to manufacture some beef between GLOW and between Megan. GLOW accidentally posted, like, GLOW reposted a meme. And the meme happened to have a Tory Lanez song playing behind it, and Glorilla wasn't aware. I don't know if the fans manufactured some between that. I don't know. But I am tired of seeing our. Our female rappers beefing over.
Mal
Yeah, I don't know. This seems like a little. It's like a reach.
Baby D
Our male rappers apparently beefing, too, because Cam is suing J. Cole. Did you see that? So, for the listeners that don't know, Cameron is suing J. Cole over a feature that Cam had on Ready might delete later. Ready off my Delete later. And it was supposed to be in exchange, like most people do, in exchange for either Cam to be. For Cole to be on a Cam project or to come on a podcast or to come on his podcast. Me personally give Cam that verse. Don't go on. It is what it is. What the you got going on right now? Get. Get the verse out. So apparently, Cole has not made good. I never swap. And Cam is now suing him.
Mal
So, according to court documents, Cameron claimed he contributed lyrics and a verse to the track, which appeared on Cole's 2024 mixtape, might delete later in exchange for Cole's alleged promise to either collaborate with him on another project or appear on Cam's podcast. Cam claimed that after the song was recorded, Cole failed to follow through on his commitment over the next two years, repeatedly saying he was unavailable for the podcast and never moving forward with another collaboration. Well, Cole has been kind of staying out of. He's been staying out of the. Out of the way for a while. He's been working on his new album. I'm pretty sure that has something to do with it. While he did not. Maybe he's waiting to finish up the album to then go on. Maybe a little. Not that Cole needs a press run, but maybe he was waiting till the album was done or the album was ready to come out, then he would go do Cam's podcast. I don't know. I mean, Cameron also contended that he hasn't properly been compensated for his part on Ready24 and asked a judge to recognize him as a co author of the track. The New York rapper wants a full accounting of the song's earning, which he believes exceeds $500,000.
Baby D
Because if you don't get your verse swap or you don't come on the podcast, then, yeah, I want to be paid for my work, because otherwise, I got no compensation for this.
Mal
Right?
Baby D
So I get where Cams coming from. Is there some type of contract that Said how long Cole took to, like, had to. You know what I'm saying? How long I had before I had to go on this podcast or give you two years. Swap pack.
Mal
It was two years.
Baby D
No, two years is how long it's been. That doesn't.
Mal
How long they agreed upon.
Baby D
Agreed upon. Which, honestly, do rappers really sign like that? It's like, yo, you got me, I got you. Ain't really.
Mal
Like, it's nothing signed. It's more. It's more. So just a conversation. And yeah. Off of Good Faith handshake, yo, I got you. I'm gonna send you that verse back. Or, yo, I'm gonna come on the pod.
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Like.
Mal
Yeah, but, you know. Well, obviously, J. Cole had to pivot. He had some things he had to switch up. I'm on the side of. He had probably a couple Drake features on the album that he don't have no more. I'm on the side of. It was some bars on some. Some. Some. You know, that he had to kind of tweak on the album that he.
Baby D
Well, his album doesn't have anything to do with it, though. That's Cam. He holds Cam a verse.
Mal
Yeah, but what I'm saying is he's probably not gonna do a verse for Cammy. Probably just do the podcast and he's not gonna do the podcast until he has the album. Because you're not. I mean, it would. Not that he can't do the podcast without an album, but he probably, like.
Baby D
If I go, we don't wanna hear shit from Cole Butt to fall off.
Mal
Yeah. If I'm going on. If I'm going on a podcast with Cam and Mace, obviously the question's gonna come up, yo, what's up with the album? And I wanna be able to have a clear answer and be able to say, yo, it's coming next week. Whatever. Whatever. You know, whatever it may be. So I don't know. I understand it on. On. On Cam side, but, you know, Cole seems like. He seems like he's a guy that would honor something between him and Cam. Yeah, it seemed like he would honor that. Whether it would be a verse or interview on his podcast. He seemed like the type of person that would honor that. So maybe the timing is just maybe now if Cam is reaching out to Cole and trying to have some communication and there's no. There's very little communication there, then I could see Cam feeling like this is the only way for him to, you know what I'm saying, like, go forward and proceed. Like, it's like, all Right. Well, I haven't spoke to Cole in seven months.
Baby D
In the article that we have, it says that Cole has kept saying he's unavailable for the podcast. What I'm wondering is, is this Cole's team that's handling this correspondence with Cam? Because you know, that that can make a difference, too. Like, if my team is in charge, the way my team responds to you or deems you important might be different from the personal relationship that I have with you.
Mal
Yeah.
Baby D
Because you know what I'm saying? Rory has complained about that a lot.
Mal
I mean, Cam probably. Cam been in the business long enough. He feels something.
Baby D
Yeah.
Mal
He feels it being a little cold, a little distant, a little. Like it's not gonna happen. And he. You know, this is the only result, I guess, of him to resolve the matter. But, I mean, are people upset at Cam soon? Is this, like, not hip hop? Is Cam not hip hop now?
Baby D
Because he's so. I was gonna bring that up. I did see that. I saw that rhetoric trying to be tracked online.
Mal
Cam is not hip hop now.
Baby D
I saw that. I saw that rhetoric try to get trapped online.
Mal
But cam' Ron is not hip hop.
Baby D
But at the same time, cam' Ron is not suing over a diss track or suing over defamation because of a diss track. That's not what cam' Ron is suing over.
Mal
He's suing over not getting a track.
Baby D
He's suing over not getting the track. Yeah, he's suing over not getting his money.
Mal
He's suing.
Baby D
Yeah, but that. But it's. It's different. I know where you was going, but we ain't gonna go.
Mal
I'm not going nowhere. I'm right here in the studio.
Baby D
Okay, all right. I'm just saying.
Mal
I'm just saying. Not hip hop now. Is that the new Cam is not hip hop, Kevin. He ain't keep it all the way real. Cam is a rat. What else are they gonna say?
Baby D
There was. There was some trolls that tried in. People nip that in the butt of me.
Mal
Y' all is crazy, man. Man. But yeah, I understand it. I listen, Cam gotta. He gotta get, you know, what he agreed upon. He upheld his part of it. He feels like Cole isn't. And again, it would have to. I think that it would have to be, because there's literally little to no communication from Cole's side to him. Like, this is the result of. I have no other choice. Cause Cam is not, you know, he don't really. I don't think we've ever seen Cam in this type of situation where he had to take. Take artists to court over not holding up a contract or this side of a contract. So this is probably just his last resort. Like, yo, dog, does this mean that.
Baby D
Cam's working on music? That's what that gives me. Like, Cam's working on music right now. Because why you. If you looking for a cold feature right now, you ain't looking just to have that in the tuck. Like, you looking because you want to use it.
Mal
Honestly, I don't know why. No, I don't know why any rapper would be working on music right now if they're not making like. Like Cam is doing pretty well for himself with his show. Right. I don't think that an album from Cam right now would do much because Cam has a very unique audience now. He hasn't built. He's built a bigger audience via. It is what it is shout out to him and Mace. But the time that it takes to make music and record and things like that, I don't know if Cam want to really do that. A verse here and there, it's a little easier. Cause it's just, you know, let me lay a couple bars. Now you talking about a whole project.
Baby D
Yeah, that takes a lot of ep.
Mal
That takes a lot of time, though. That's it. And I don't know if Cam is willing. He got so many other things going on. I don't know if he's willing to kind of do.
Baby D
When you say that, you don't know why artists would want to do that when. Especially when music isn't really selling like that. Are they not passionate about the art? Because we say that the music now is lacking the passion that the artist had to the artistry or to the rap or to. So are they not. Is that not worth it? Like when I. When people say, yo, Jay ain't putting out no more music. This, this, and that. And I'm like, jay will always put out music. I think because Jay really loves to rap.
Mal
Yeah. But somebody like Jay, when you. When you at the level of a Jay Z, it has to make complete sense to sit down and put out an album like you have for one. Just on the inspiration. You got to be inspired on a different level. Like when you've accomplished everything that Jay Z is like, what does another album for Jay Z do right now?
Baby D
Well, taking Jay Z out of it. Even somebody like Cam, if you love rap, even Cam.
Mal
Cam has done so much in rap, and it's like now he has his other business ventures popping off. What does an album do for Cam right now? Unless he's just absolutely inspired and, you know, just like the zone that he caught being in the studio and listening to music and, you know, sitting with producers. Like, unless it's one of those where it's like, I caught a crazy zone and I was just in there laying joints down and I looked up and had seven joints done. And it's crazy if it's not that. I just don't think it makes sense, honestly, from. Because Cam is a legacy artist at this point. Like, this. This would be him just doing it because, again, he's inspired. It wouldn't do. It wouldn't hurt or help his legacy in any. For me, personally, I mean, Cam is already solidified, so I don't know. Versus, though, like, when you say J. Cole won a verse. Oh, bet I'll shoot a verse to Cole. I fuck with Cole, like, you know what I'm saying? He could really rap, and you know what I'm saying? It's like. But a whole project. I just don't know if guys like Cam is even thinking about that. Cause it's like, for what? Like, what is it doing for me? What is it? You know what I'm saying? What is it doing for my brand right now? And then the way people consume music now, well, I'm gonna put it out at midnight for people at 1212 to be trashing it, saying, this shit is terrible.
Baby D
Yeah.
Mal
You know what I'm saying? So it's like, what, What. What would an artist like Cam even want to put out an album for right now? Because, again, it's like, it doesn't do nothing for his career. He doesn't need to. You know, I'm saying again, again, if he's absolutely inspired and, you know, then that's totally different. I can't speak to an artist who's being inspired. It's like, absolutely inspired. Put out your. Put out your art. But if it's not that, I don't think it makes sense. I don't think it makes sense for Cam. But we'll see what happens with this J. Cole thing. J. Cole probably won't respond to it, like, you know, publicly. It'll probably be handled with the lawyers and things like that. I don't think he's gonna post anything, you know, saying anything in response to it. But again, you know, it is what it is. Get your money, man. Get your motherfucking money.
Baby D
No warrior.
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Baby D
Did you see this? Before we go into voice modes, I.
Mal
Wanted to see if no, y' all keep asking me. I don't know who this is. Kristen Annie Bell.
Baby D
Chris. Kristen Bell is a Kristen Bell, a white actress. And the caption she wrote to her husband, I want to say who also looks like her dad because Kristen is very, very tiny. Happy 12th wedding anniversary to the man who once said to me, I would never kill you. A lot of men have killed their wives at a certain point. Even though I'm heavily incentivized to kill you, I never would.
Mal
Even though I'm heavily incentivized to kill you. So the husband told her, can we pull up incentivize Just so I understand.
Baby D
There would be a reward for killing her. Like, he would get a reward out of killing her.
Mal
Like maybe life insurance or something.
Baby D
Yeah, he. Like, he has plenty of motivation to kill.
Mal
Heavily incentivized. Provide someone. This is a thing that motivates or encourages one. So he's encouraged. He's heavily encouraged and heavily motivated to. And heavily motivated to kill her. But he wouldn't. Is Kristen. Is she okay? Has anybody checked on her?
Baby D
I mean, she looks happy right here. I don't.
Mal
Oh, we don't see her face. We don't know. We don't even know if that's her.
Baby D
David's here.
Mal
You say she looks happy. Well, we don't even know if that's her.
Baby D
They've been tearing her up because they said that she's making a joke out of domestic violence because men do kill their wives often, actually. And she's making a joke. Like, you said, you would never kill me. Oh, my God. Happy birthday or happy anniversary.
Mal
Is this, like. Maybe it's just an inning between them?
Baby D
Yeah, but it ain't between them because we.
Mal
Because then they put it out.
Baby D
They put us in their business.
Mal
Well, she put it out, so. Yeah, that's. That's weird. But people are weird. You know, maybe this is. I don't know, their thing. I don't. I've never. This is the first time I've ever seen a Kristen Bell post. I don't know her post history and how her caption game is. So I don't know, but that's definitely a little weird to say. Yo. Even though you said I'm heavily incentivized to kill you, I never would.
Baby D
Yeah.
Mal
Again, has anybody checked? Have we seen her? Because this says this. I mean, I've seen this on first 48. This could be the husband.
Baby D
Yeah.
Mal
Uploading from her account. Like, we don't.
Baby D
Who was it that said. Was it cold case or. I don't know. It was first 48 or a dateline that was, like, screenshotting it. This. Yeah. Dayline was, like, screenshotting this.
Mal
Yeah, me too. I'm about to screenshot it. Like, yo, I told y' all that wasn't her in the picture, yo. Like, that's. That's very. Yeah, that's. That's just an odd caption.
Baby D
Would you ever do an anniversary post? Like, if your girl was like, yo, we've been together for a year. Like, is it time? Like, are you gonna post me? Like, would you post, like, the girl? Like, you settle down. Y' all been together for a year. You posting her. Especially with what you do for a living.
Mal
Yeah.
Baby D
Really?
Mal
Yeah. See, that's what I'm saying. You think I don't know what you think about me? That's. That's crazy.
Baby D
I can only. I can only go off what I've. What I've seen. Like, you only know me as thick. You don't know. I've been skinny my whole entire life. But when you met me, I was thick. So you only know me as being heavier. Said, like, that's the thing. I can only go off what you show me. If you ain't posting since I knew you, how I know you posted?
Mal
Well, I'm about to say I'm not big. I don't do that anyways. I don't really. I don't post on social media anyway, so, I mean, I don't know. But if she wanted that, sure. Like, if it was my girl, she's like, anniversary, sure, I would. I have no problem.
Baby D
Like, not marriage anniversary, girlfriend anniversary.
Mal
Yeah, if she wanted that, like, if that's something she wanted, like, for whatever reason she wanted.
Baby D
So she would have to ask for it. You wouldn't just do it?
Mal
I wouldn't know. I don't post. You go look at my page right now. I haven't posted. If it's not this show, I don't post. I'm not. I'm not on social media like that, even though people think I am. I'm really not, though.
Baby D
You be scrolling.
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Mal
Oh, I scroll because I need to be in tune with what's happening. I need to know what's going on. Yeah. Like, I might miss something. It's like, okay, cool. I see what's going on. But posting, like, in my personal life. Yo, I'm here. Selfie. I'm not that guy. I'm not doing that.
Baby D
Me.
Mal
Yeah. Your anniversary is coming up. It is not like you were, like, four months.
Baby D
Ish.
Mal
My bad. And I usually don't even do like that. My bad. I'm sorry. I was. That time stamp was crazy. That time stamp was absolutely crazy. My bad, baby. D. Cause I already. You know. I know. My bad. I'm not even. My bad. My bad.
Baby D
I fucked up. My bad.
Mal
My bad. But your anniversary, give or take. Over and under. Yeah, yeah. Over and under. Over and under. But I posted him on his birthday. On my story.
Baby D
I posted him on. But see, my thing is.
Mal
Nah, not the story.
Baby D
I posted on his story.
Mal
That deletes a 24.
Baby D
You know how many views I get? Around 8,000 views on Twitter. That's a lot of people to see that.
Mal
Yeah. But still, though. Put it on the page, though, though.
Baby D
Here's the thing I get. I. Because I know my emotional capabilities, when I get upset, I start deleting, okay? So when I get upset, I start deleting. So I'm not gonna do that, because then I can't put it back up when I'm not mad at you. I've been mad at you for 30 minutes. I done around. Took the post down. Now everybody think we broken up. I don't. I don't even want to do that.
Mal
Like, okay.
Baby D
Also, I don't want people to find him. Why? Because. Just because I've decided to put live my life out in the public arena. Vlogging, podcasting. He didn't make that decision. You know what I'm saying? Like, he. That's.
Mal
He trying to protect his anonymity.
Baby D
Yeah. Like, protect his privacy. He's a very private person. I'm the exact opposite of a private person. But he didn't. He didn't. He signed up for me, but he didn't sign up for his.
Mal
Signed up for me. I know that's right. He signed up for.
Baby D
Please. That was.
Mal
He signed up for you. Do he know what he signed up for, though?
Baby D
He found out.
Mal
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What up, gang? I'm gonna try to keep this brief. Long story short, met this girl on Twitter. We was talking back and forth, you know what I'm saying? Started moving really quick. Pet names. We talking kids possibly trying to see each other. She lived in Kentucky. I'm in Jersey, you know what I'm saying? So was moving at a rapid pace, and then about 10 days in, she was like, oh, I forgot my light bill's almost due. Da, da, da, da, da. And I was just like, damn, son, you know what I mean? Like, I'm gonna pray for you, hope everything work out.
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And she was like, wow, you're not even gonna ask me how much it is if I'm. Are you willing to help me? Da da da da. And I'm like, you don't even know my last name. Like, what the fuck would I be sending you some bread, you know what I'm saying? So we got into a little one, two about. It was no big deal on my end. You know, I'm like, listen, you can say what you want, but I'm not sending you no fucking money. You know what I'm saying? So we moved past it, and it seems like ever since then, everything is brand new now. Like, she stopped with all the love. Well, I ain't gonna say stop, but she slowed down dramatically with all the lovey dovey stuff, you know what I'm saying? She's way like, like short with me. She used to text me all day, every day. And now it's like I hear from her sporadically throughout, you know, days at a time. And on one hand, I'm kind of like, well, if her situation is real and like, she ain't got no power, I would understand the lack of communication. And I also seeing the stress with hindering her from being like, lovey dovey with me, you know what I'm saying? But on the other hand, it kind of feel like, hey, since I ain't sending her the bread, she acting brand new.
Baby D
He said, he said, I mean, if she ain't got no power, I can understand why. Like, the communication is because.
Mal
But he kind of lost me because he was this a girl that would. Because how did he go from saying they was talking about having kids and all of this to she asking for. For. For like money because her. Her electricity's about to get cut off. Like, I don't understand, like, how y' all talking about kids, but then you mad that she asked you for money for your bill for her bill.
Baby D
That's the thing. That's the thing with that love bomb and shit. If you gonna love bomb, go all the way.
Mal
I saw a girl too, the other day. I hate a trick that be. I hate a fake trick.
Baby D
Don't tell me what you. What you. What you want to do or what you was gonna do. Do it, do it. But he ain't even pretend that he was like that. My thing is you can't want to move at a rapid pace. And then when she's moving At a rapid pace, too, financially. You like, whoa, you don't even know my last name. So what the. You talking about kids with me?
Mal
Yeah, that's. Yeah.
Baby D
You can't do that. If you gonna move out at a rabbit's pay, then that's what you got to do.
Mal
You can't pick and choose what you want to move fast in. And then she. Her bill is due, and she like, yo, I. I need some money for my lights. Like, you talking about having kids with this woman. Like, how is. How is that now? How is the light bill too much?
Baby D
Because light bills don't even be high like that. For real?
Mal
Yeah. Kids cost more than light bill, for sure. Family cost abortions. Yeah, well, yeah. Yeah, that is. That's a valid point. Like, that is a valid point. Kids abortion costs more than lights, that's for sure.
Baby D
So this is the thing. If I hear you right, if you weren't also moving fast. If you weren't moving so fast.
Mal
Yeah. If he wasn't. If you wasn't engaging in it, and if you wasn't, like, making her feel like y' all was on the same page again. Y' all told my kids, she getting a level of comfortability there where it's like, bills is not. That's, like, the. The minimum at this point. If we talking about starting a family. Like, bills is. That's part of the conversation of now. Yeah. You introducing that energy. You making her feel like, okay, this is the guy I'm gonna be with. This is the father of my. You know, we talking about having kids, being starting a family. Yeah. So her level of comfortability is at the point of, like, yo, like, my bills and my lights is about to get. She's not wrong.
Baby D
And my thing is. And let's clarify. Cause I don't want y' all saying that me and Ma, y' all think that y' all should be paying women's light bills ten days in.
Mal
No, no, no, no. Absolutely not.
Baby D
But.
Mal
But you shouldn't be talking about starting a family ten days in either.
Baby D
Yeah. Like, you can't. You can't go halfway if you're gonna. If you're gonna do it, go all the way. Also, why you wanna be with a girl that can't pay her light bill too good? He ain't hit it yet.
Mal
He ain't hit yet.
Baby D
He didn't hit yet. He's. Or did. He did. He didn't say no. He said she live in. He live in Kentucky and she live in Jersey.
Mal
What that mean? That don't Mean he ain't hit.
Baby D
It don't mean.
Mal
Wait, play that again, Josh. Because if he ain't have sex with this girl, he told my starting he's a bozo.
Baby D
No, he said they started talking about. Yeah, I'm telling you, he hasn't hit yet. They started talking about that straight off the bat. And then he was like, she slowed down. It hasn't been too. You don't gotta play again. It hasn't been too lovey dovey. She slowed down ever since because she slowed down. Because it's like, oh, you ain't moving that fast. Yes, I'm gonna slow down too.
Mal
You can't be talking like this about a girl you haven't had sex with yet.
Baby D
Yes, you can.
Mal
Well, you can, obviously, because then once.
Baby D
You have sex and it's good, then it's everything else solidified.
Mal
But when. Okay, that's if it's good. What if it's not?
Baby D
Sex is good more often than it's bad.
Mal
That's not true. I'm sorry, that's not true.
Baby D
Sex is good more often than it's bad. Well, you're a man, so you're gonna nut regardless.
Mal
Nah, Pickle. Nah, man. I'm telling you, bro, you set yourself up for failure with that. A lot. It's a lot of bad sex out there.
Baby D
There is. But, Ma, you can't tell me that you've had more bad sexual experiences than good ones.
Mal
No. Bad.
Baby D
When I say I don't mean mid, I mean bad.
Mal
No, no, I haven't.
Baby D
I know you have it because.
Mal
Yeah, because. Because once you have bad sex, that's the last time we're gonna have sex, so we're not gonna keep having bad sex.
Baby D
Sometimes you need to. You need to ease it your way into it, though. You never had a bad first time, and then y' all tried it the second time, it was like, oh, okay. Like, I just.
Mal
Oh, yeah, we got better.
Baby D
Yeah.
Mal
Yeah, but that's like. I'm talking about when it's bad. Like, where it's like, I'm never. We are never doing that. Well, what made it bad?
Baby D
When you had bad sex, what made it bad?
Mal
Just the chemistry just wasn't. Wasn't there.
Baby D
Like, y' all couldn't, like, catch a rhythm. Like, it was just awkward. No, I. I was Lori hugging that girl.
Mal
I had the rhythm, but it was like she was trying to do too. I think, like she may have watched too many movies or something and she was trying to do, I guess, like, shit she saw. Like, what just like, just like you. You throwing it back. But it's like the way you throwing it is like, it ain't really ass you throwing. Like, you just pushing your whole body back. You gotta throw it gotta. The ass gotta throw back. Not like your shoulders shouldn't be coming, like, towards you. You shouldn't be doing that. Supposed to just be asked. Just the ass supposed to pop off the.
Baby D
Yeah.
Mal
You know what I mean?
Baby D
Yeah.
Mal
You shouldn't be doing this.
Baby D
Oh, yeah.
Mal
Like, come on. What are we doing? Like, I'm at the end of the bed now. Like, come on.
Baby D
You couldn't handle it.
Mal
It was trash. I didn't want. I was trying to get out of it.
Baby D
Okay. Did you, like, flip her over, like, to get her to stop?
Mal
Oh, yeah. I mean, I got. You know, I had to. Was like, listen, let me just. I got this.
Baby D
Stop moving.
Mal
Yeah, I got this. You know what I'm saying? Because he's like, you know. You know how we all are. Y' all here, like, oh, y' all don't want the guy to say, oh, she was just laying there. No, you can just lay here. I got it. Let me get. Mine's off. Because once I get Mine's off, this is over.
Baby D
Yeah, just because she threw it back awkwardly.
Mal
No, it was just the. Just the rhythm. It just wasn't. Trust me. But it wasn't. I've had great. See, once you have great sex, you not settling for you not having bad sex. I don't need to be doing this.
Baby D
Yeah.
Mal
I don't need to. Shorty. Is she waiting for me to call her? Sex is amazing. I'm just not with her right now. Yeah. Yeah. That's how.
Baby D
You know, that's. That's like how spin the block happens. Of course, you go out into the world and be like, oh, this is ass. The date was ass. The sex is ass. The head is so much ass out in the world. You go back. You're like, oh, I'm gonna go back in.
Mal
I've had plenty of those. Like, dating a woman, and then it's like, you know, she's still around. It's like, I got. Go out there, sure enough, two months later, try to spend.
Baby D
I'm like, you like having sex in music?
Mal
With music, it don't matter. I think we tatted. I don't. When I'm having sex, half the time, I don't. It could be the TV on. I don't.
Baby D
So you don't have, like, a sex playlist? Like a she coming over, like, playlist? Like, with shade. And like, I've had Chris Brown and Tank on it.
Mal
No, I've had. I don't set. I don't set a playlist. When a woman's coming over, I don't be like, oh, I'm gonna set this. Funny story. It's a dude that lives. So the way my building is, right? It's a building across from mine. And like, since the high rise buildings, we can kind of like, you can kind of see in each other's apartments a little bit. It's this one dude that lives across from me, like, and I don't know why, but, like, I think because he has like all of his blinds open, all of his shades open, and it's like we're kind of like on the same floor. And when I could see, like whenever he comes home and like, if I'm in the living room or I'm doing something in the kitchen, if he turns his TV or his kitchen lights on, it's like it all lights up. Cause all his shades is up. So like twice I've caught him like in his own, like, dancing and shit. So I'll be in the kitchen looking and I'm just laughing like, just like. Cause he don't know. He don't know I could see him. Cause it's not. We not like crazy close, but it's like, it's so bright you can see.
Baby D
Yeah.
Mal
So I noticed what it is. Now he get into his zone when he got a piece coming over. You lying, Swear to God. So he got like, he be having the candles lit. He be having like. So I guess he got music playing and all that. So he be dancing, right? And then sure left. Sure enough, 20, 30 minutes later, a girl come through. And then like, you could tell, like, oh, he was getting into his zone. Like he had some action coming over. So then I get like, she'll leave and I'm a creep for watching all of this shit. But it's like, if I'm in the living room chilling, like, I'm doing. I'm on the phone or whatever, I could literally, I could see it. So, like, she'll get up and leave the room. I'm guessing she go to the bathroom. Yo, this nigga get on the floor. He started doing push ups. I'm like, yo, testosterone. Oh my. Yo, I'll be in there laughing. I'm like, yo, she don't even know that this nigga is in there. He is preparing like, bitch, let's fuck. Like, all this shit you do is trying to watch tv Eat and all that. That, like, let's just get to this. Like, I've seen him do that like two times already. And it's the. Like, I want to meet this dude. Like, I. I want to bump into him like walking up the block to just be like, yo, dog, close your shades. I'm tired of seeing you getting into your zone whenever you got some. A woman coming. Like, I'm talking about literally candles lit.
Baby D
Everywhere, like a push up.
Mal
Oh, he be setting the move.
Baby D
Men do push ups before when she go into the bathroom to do that little clean off thing that we do where we go and double check and make sure that our. Our draws still smell fresh. That thing that we do, make sure you do push ups so that you could last longer. It increases your testosterone.
Mal
But why y' all do that? So y' all have your own products with you. Are you hoping that we all find something?
Baby D
If I find something in there, then we ain't we arguing, so. No, I have my own products. Like the. I go in there and it's like, yo.
Mal
It's so much it. Like, yo, dating is crazy when you think about it.
Baby D
It's too much.
Mal
It's too many, like, dot and T's and crossing eyes that goes into dating. Like, there's no way that man should be in the house doing all of that before a girl come over. Like, what you doing?
Baby D
Gotta make sure he impress her. He gotta last long. He might have Ed. That might be one of the things his doctors told him to help make him last longer, make him be able to get back up after the first round. Yeah. All right, well, didn't one of y'. All. Didn't you or Rory say that y' all done squats?
Mal
Squats and red wine. Red wine reduction.
Baby D
Squats and red wine. You really are a bad. You gonna drink wine with me tonight? I mean today. Oh, tonight sounded crazy today.
Mal
I don't know if I'm drinking wine. It's a little too early for one.
Baby D
It's not. It's five o', clock, Mom.
Mal
Yeah, but that's red wine. I feel like we need to be like, at dinner. Like, red wine at 5 is crazy.
Baby D
We going to dinner, though.
Mal
I don't know if I'm drinking red wine, though. Not red wine.
Baby D
Josh, play another voicemail.
Jarvis
Yo, this is Jarvis, all the way from Georgia. Jarvis, I got some ribs for you, but go ahead, let you know off the rip. I don't know nothing about no bodegas, no subways, metros, bacon egg on a bagel. See, I'M from the South Georgia specific. We know about Peaches and black Baptist churches where your granddad is the deacon. I only bring these things up just for me to mention that it's differences between us, let alone miles of distance. But I don't stop my heart nor death nor good intentions. See you smiling so hard, your cheekbones carving indention J. Cole said he want to fold clothes with his Mrs. I'm trying to cook, load the washer, let him dry and stack the dishes Trying to write you letters to the envelope with a honey kisses Trying to bring you to the south get a feel for your characteristics Let you hear from horse's mouth I want to hear about all your interests. This is not a poem, this is my feelings for you to find it's not a story but a prophecy waiting on proper time.
Mal
Oh, he. He stepped in his business with you, Baby D. This ain't a story, this is me just dropping the line to let you know that the time will align in the divine rhymes. And oh, he was. He was getting his off now. He inspired me right there. He inspired me to write that. Respond.
Baby D
What up? First of all, that was a beautiful spoken word poem.
Mal
Rap, whatever.
Baby D
It was a RAP 16. Whatever it was, it was very beautiful. I appreciate you taking the time out to write something like that to me. I know that that took time and that took energy and creativity. I appreciate it. I am unfortunately taken.
Mal
Unfortunately.
Baby D
I mean, yo, yo.
Mal
Oh, oh, you see how fast. Yo, peace. That wasn't 30 minutes, yo. That's crazy. Unfortunately, you take it.
Baby D
Hold on, hold on.
Mal
Nah, son, nah, fam. Getting red wine reduction and all that. And this is the way you going now sit down. Ain't no.
Baby D
Hold on.
Mal
Unfortunately, Baby D is in the relationship, fam. Jarvis. Jarvis. Is your name Jarvis? Unfortunately. Unfortunately, baby. Relationship. When yo y' all ain't. Yo, that just. You saw. I just jumped out. You ain't even realize what you were saying, that she just jumped out. Unfortunately, I'm in a relationship.
Baby D
Let me finish my sentence. Unfortunately for you, I am in a relationship. Fortunately for me, I'm very happy. But unfortunately for you, I am in a relationship with someone else who lives in. In Georgia and is licensed to.
Mal
That might be his, man. He might have sent his homie to send that voice. Like, send his voicemail. See how she respond. My baby, respond. Unfortunately, I'm in a relationship now.
Baby D
That was beautiful. I'mma write a poem back to him. Yeah, I'mma write a poem back to him about our unrequited love.
Mal
Do homie know you be writing poems? Was homie your man name? He. He know.
Baby D
Yo, are you who you work for? My.
Mal
You just said you got a man. Do he know you writing poems to?
Baby D
I haven't written it yet, so why.
Mal
Would I tell him something that hasn't happened yet, Unfortunately. But I'mma write him a poem back.
Baby D
Write him a poem back.
Mal
Don't be writing no poem. Don't do that. He don't need a poem back. Sir. Jarvis. Sir. Thank you. The marriage is taken. She's in a happy relationship.
Baby D
Right up mall is accepting all poems.
Mal
Not from. No, I ain't.
Baby D
Why not?
Mal
Cuz that's gay. I'm not gay. I don't like men. Men shouldn't write me poems.
Baby D
Oh my God.
Mal
Don't write me no poems. I don't want no poems from no man.
Baby D
Josh, is there anything else we got to cover? We wrapping up.
Mal
Oh, well. Happy Halloween. Yo, Peas, what we doing tonight, man? We going to the parade tomorrow.
Baby D
Yeah, it's a parade tomorrow.
Mal
It's a parade. Every year, Halloween, we've got the biggest parade in the country in New York.
Baby D
You ain't know that there's some scary going on.
Mal
No, the NYC parade is like legendary though. Have you ever been? Oh, you gotta go. You gotta experience it one time. It's gotten different over the years. Like it used to be like out of control. Like it's more controlled and like, you know, but back in like when I was in high school. Yeah, this. This was the time of year we just be in downtown, people up for no reason.
Baby D
And I won't be there. Thank you so much.
Mal
No, but now it's. No, now it's more.
Baby D
It's safe.
Mal
Yeah, safe. It's more. You know, it's more just about the parade and costumes and creativity and things like that. Like. Yeah, okay. We just need an excuse to just be doing delinquent, that's all.
Baby D
Well, it's getting late. Let's get out of here and go on our date.
Mal
Let's do that. Going to sneaky shopping, get some food.
Baby D
Maybe a nightcap.
Mal
Maybe a nightcap. Maybe. Maybe a movie or something. Don't be trying to touch me in the theater though. Cause y' all be getting.
Baby D
You will open up like a oyster.
Mal
Unfortunately for you. I mean, we talk to y' all soon. Be safe, be blessed. I'm that. That's Baby D. No worrying now.
Jarvis
Out.
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Baby D
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Release Date: October 31, 2025
Summary by ChatGPT Podcast Recap
This Halloween episode centers on Mal and guest co-host Baby D bantering about relationships, dating culture, transformative years, celebrity beefs, and humorous hot takes—while Rory is away. The show balances the hosts’ signature humor and candidly deep dives into their philosophies on love, social media authenticity, music industry politics, and the nuances of modern adulthood. The chemistry is sharp, the jokes fly, and several listener questions spark revealing discussion.
The episode is true to the New Rory & MAL style—irreverent, quick-witted, and real. Mal leans into deadpan humor and stubborn traditionalism; Baby D balances with self-awareness, vulnerability about her spiritual journey, and Gen Z frankness. Relationship debates toggle between earnest advice and playful roasting.
This Halloween special is a microcosm of the podcast’s appeal: sharp banter, open debates about modern relationships, music industry backstories, and listener engagement that keeps things grounded and relatable. Whether they’re breaking down the difference between “private” and “sneaky” or debating why men shouldn’t keep fish, Mal and Baby D keep listeners laughing and thinking.
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