Episode 421 | Maldani

Summary

New Rory & MAL – Episode 421 | "Maldani"

Release Date: November 7, 2025
Hosts: Rory, Mal, Damaris, Amara, Cam
Special Guests: Ms. Pat (featured during the week), various recurring voices

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Episode Overview

In this lively post–Election Day episode, the crew dives into the aftermath of New York City's dramatic mayoral race, the city’s shifting energy, and all the wild cultural and musical happenings of the week. True to form, the conversation ricochets through politics, viral moments, relationships, and music, all stitched together with irreverent humor and genuine takes. Notably, the legendary comedian Ms. Pat is highlighted for her recent appearance on the show and her approach to men's mental health.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. On "Songs That Should Have Been Bigger" and Hip-Hop Trends

• The crew debates why certain tracks, such as Drake's "Blem", never become hits, despite their quality.
• This segues into a conversation about Jay-Z’s "Off That" (Blueprint 3), acknowledging that most things Hov said were "off", actually never went out of style (chains, oversized clothes, fame-chasing, Timbs).
  • Quote:

    "Everything he said in Blueprint 3, we continue to do."
    — Damaris (04:26)

  • Memorable Exchange:
    • Cam: "The stock on chasing [fame] definitely went up." (04:47)
    • Damaris: "Oversized clothes are back. Chains never went away. Making it rain—still happening." (04:54)

2. NYC Politics & The Mayoral Election

• The recent election sees Zoran Mamdani winning the mayoral seat, promising big changes for NYC.
  • Cam jokes about the drama:

    "Zoran Mamdani is the new mayor of New York City. ... No matter who you voted for, Mamdani is your mayor." (12:34)

• Discussion about NYC’s status, with hot takes on the idea that it's the 'second most powerful seat' in America.
  • Damaris: "There's too many checks and balances. Like, the mayor can only do so much." (10:44)
• The crew calls out doomsayers who threaten to leave NYC over politics:
  • "I'm calling your bluff. Do it." — Damaris (13:10)

3. Curtis Sliwa, Cats, and New York Lore

• In a wild segment, Damaris references a viral Curtis Sliwa cat documentary where he claims rats will self-abort if they sense a cat nearby.
  • Cam: "If the female rat smells a cat, it will abort the pregnancy on its own." (14:52)
  • The group riffs on the absurdity, spinning an entire comedy sketch about buying cats as a form of birth control.

    "Buy a cat for your girl when she's pregnant." — Cam (16:08)

4. NYC Energy & Mayoral Candidates

• More lighthearted banter about local candidates, the unique vibe in NYC post-election, and prospective realities under Mamdani.
• Playful speculation about changes to come (e.g., legalized prostitution, congestion pricing, revival of the “old New York”).

5. Viral Moments & Social Media

• Damaris reflects on going viral for “the things I go viral for,” wishing it was for something lighter—like someone liking Pepsi (19:11).
• The group discusses Ms. Pat’s recent visit, noting her genuine, heartfelt humor and the positive impact of having her around for “Men’s Mental Health Month.”

6. Ms. Pat’s Guest Appearance & Men's Mental Health

• Recap of the episode with Ms. Pat, who brought her signature blend of care and comedy to the conversation around dealing with trauma.
  • Damaris: "She made me feel seen while laughing." (20:57)
  • The crew recommends checking out Ms. Pat’s Netflix special and her show “Ms. Pat Settles It.”

7. Travel, Safety, and Airport Hassles

• The team discusses the recent plane crash in Kentucky (27:40), the rise of conspiracy theorists enlisting “real experts,” and frustrations with airport security (clear, TSA PreCheck, Real IDs).
  • Amara: "They're cutting. The people aren't showing up to work. Nobody's showing up to work because they're not getting paid." (31:53)

8. Life at Home, House-Spouse Fantasies, & Cooking

• Jokes about being a stay-at-home husband/wife and the therapeutic value of cooking.
  • Cam: "If you like really know how to cook, I feel like you can go anywhere in the world and be fine." (37:05)

9. Train Journeys & Travel Dreams

• Amara expresses a desire for a scenic European train journey. Discussion veers into the Orient Express and joking about the “racy” connotations of its name.
  • Damaris: "That just feels racist. I don't know why." (39:48)

10. NYC Vice & Prospective “New” New York

• Hypothetical fun about Times Square’s future, potential return of brothels, New Year’s Eve shenanigans, and the red light district vibe.
  • Cam: "I think that's what will help bring back the vibe of New York City..." (45:00)

11. Music Industry & Legal Beefs (Cam’ron vs. J. Cole)

• The Cam’ron/J. Cole lawsuit is addressed, with sympathy for both sides and a call for squashing the beef via real conversation rather than courts.
  • Damaris: "I want them to have this conversation on Cam show." (50:45)

12. Upcoming Biopics: Michael Jackson & Mike Tyson

• Excitement and apprehension about the new Michael Jackson biopic starring his nephew, Jafar Jackson.
  • Damaris: "This is the real Michael Jackson movie." (52:35)
• The upcoming Jamie Foxx–led Mike Tyson series is also anticipated.

13. Boxing Drama: Jake Paul vs. Tank Davis

• The Jake Paul vs. Tank Davis fight is canceled, with controversy over promotion and Tank’s legal issues.
  • Cam: “If you support this man, you support the most vile sin a man can commit…” (read from Jake Paul statement, 63:22)
• Debate on whether the cancellation is really about morals or business.

14. New Music, Star Power, & Rap Ratings

• Kodak Black’s new album garners praise, with discussion on whether he’s a better rapper than NBA Youngboy.
• NLE Choppa’s “star power” is debated—are people more interested in artists’ personalities or their music?
  • Amara: "People care more about them than their music." (76:09)
• Plan for hosts to each listen to an unfamiliar artist and report back with reviews—an effort to broaden musical horizons.

15. Listener Questions & Relationship Advice

• Josephine from Amsterdam calls in, asking for advice on dating and finding a “cool and also cringy” guy after years of bad dates (88:53).
  • Amara: "If something isn't coming to you... higher powers want you to focus on something else." (90:15)
  • Damaris: "I think getting back out there, unfortunately, is a volume game." (91:03)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Jay Z's cultural predictions:

  "The stock on chasing [fame] definitely went up." — Cam (04:47)

• On cats as birth control (absurd humor):

  "If the female rat smells a cat, it will abort the pregnancy on its own." — Cam (14:52) "Buy a cat for your girl when she's pregnant." — Cam (16:08)

• On the changing spirit of NYC post-election:

  "The energy is already different in the city." — Damaris (05:48)
  "I saw AK on 42nd in a brand new Honda Civic with BBS's on it. That's how I knew that energy was... I've never seen BBS's on a Honda Civic before." — Damaris (11:44)

• On viral moments:

  "I wish I could go viral like Mall for liking Pepsi." — Damaris (19:20)

• On Ms. Pat's approach:

  "She made me feel seen while laughing." — Damaris (20:57)

• On life goals:

  "If you like really know how to cook, I feel like you can go anywhere in the world and be fine." — Cam (37:05)

• On the allure of European train rides:

  "I want to ride the Wild Wild West train." — Damaris (40:20)

• On settling and relationships:

  "Can you settle for something you love?... Not settle. I choose this." — Cam (93:25)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• Jay Z/Drake & Music Trends: 03:35–05:15
• NYC Mayoral Election & Zoran Mamdani: 07:00–14:00
• Curtis Sliwa Cat Abortion Story: 14:24–17:20
• Ms. Pat, Trauma & Men’s Mental Health: 19:52–21:23
• Plane Crash & Airport Woes: 27:40–34:40
• Orient Express & Travel Dreams: 39:45–43:15
• NYC Vice, Brothels, and Times Square Riffs: 45:00–47:00
• Cam’ron vs. J. Cole Lawsuit: 48:47–51:57
• Michael Jackson Biopic Discussion: 52:00–56:56
• Boxing: Jake Paul/Tank Davis Canceled: 59:52–67:02
• Listener Relationship Question: 88:32–95:55

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Takeaway

This episode brims with the irreverent chemistry that makes New Rory & MAL a favorite in hip hop podcasting. With biting humor and authenticity, the crew fearlessly discusses local and pop culture, politics, music, and life’s absurdities. Highlights include the deep NYC mayoral dive, zany Curtis Sliwa stories, real-life relationship advice, and meta commentary on the ever-changing music and media landscape.

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For Further Listening

• Replay the Ms. Pat guest episode and check her Netflix special (“Ms. Pat Settles It”).
• Cue up Jay Z’s “Off That,” Drake’s “Blem,” and Kodak Black’s “Just Getting Started.”
• Watch for Rory, Mal, and friends’ upcoming reviews of new music artists (Mike, Sasha Keeble, NLE Choppa, and Renee Rapp)—the musical homework assignment will return!

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End of Summary

Transcript

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[Josephine]

The volume.

[Cam]

No worrying now. Rolling. Rolling, rolling, rolling, rolling. How many more shots?

[Amara]

How many more shots until you're rolling?

[Cam]

That's what I said.

[Amara]

Okay.

[Cam]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

That's how out of touch I was. I thought rolling was like Molly and Ecstasy. I didn't know it was like a drunk thing.

[Cam]

Maybe body rolling. Cause it was like a.

[Damaris]

Or maybe it was like Molly water.

[Cam]

Probably. I could see that.

[Damaris]

How come Blem never hit?

[Cam]

So we gonna start? You wanna start there? About the songs that should have hit that never hit.

[Damaris]

No, I like the song Blem. Don't get me wrong.

[Cam]

Oh, you talking about just like the.

[Damaris]

Yeah, I mean it probably is the same way. Like when hov said all the shit that we was off, but we just like the next day continued to wear tennis.

[Amara]

It was not the next day.

[Cam]

No, we never wore button ups again.

[Damaris]

You know, I'm saying that that happened and then rims went away. But around Blueprint 3, when he was saying all that. Can we pull up the lyrics to off that? Jay Z and Drake. Everything Jay said, none of us got off. No, not one of us stopped doing what he said we were supposed to. Well, I think the auto tune never died.

[Cam]

Auto tune definitely everything he said in.

[Damaris]

Blueprint 3, we continue to do. Go to the hook.

[Cam]

Go to the hook. Bring in the hook.

[Damaris]

Tell her. Tell her you love her. We off that. I always tell her I love her. We're still fighting in the club.

[Cam]

What club? There's not even no clubs anymore.

[Damaris]

Everyone is steady chasing fame. No one is off. That. That's actually increased.

[Cam]

That's actually. That's increased. Hey, hold the stock on that went up. The stock on chasing. Chasing definitely went up.

[Damaris]

Oversized clothes are back. Chains never went away. Making it rain. Still happening.

[Cam]

Is it?

[Damaris]

I'm sure they're gonna do it. Back to the Future reboot Anytime soon.

[Cam]

No King walks and asks for snap. Snap. Ain't nobody throwing money in the club.

[Damaris]

Chris had been gone at that point, so I didn't care. Tim's still there. Rims. I mean, rims is gone.

[Amara]

Tim's ain't the way they used to be, though.

[Damaris]

What do you mean? People are, like, tying them now?

[Amara]

No, it's just like there's been a.

[Cam]

People are tying their Tim's.

[Amara]

I feel like there's been a Tim decrease. I'm not saying they're gone.

[Cam]

Studying the market on it.

[Amara]

I just don't.

[Cam]

Damaris be counting Tim's outside. She stand at the park and count how many got Tim's.

[Amara]

Oh, go.

[Damaris]

She felt that's what Curtis should have ran on.

[Cam]

Yeah, Curtis said some free Tim's for everybody. Might have got him in there, man.

[Damaris]

The energy is already different in the city. Yeah, man, I don't even know. We can talk local now because that mayor race is national.

[Cam]

That's funny. I like that. Hey, Nicks. Hey.

[Damaris]

Hey.

[Cam]

I like that. I don't know who in the locker room started that, but I like that.

[Damaris]

You know, I. With Desus and Mero, But I feel like this is something they're behind because I hate. I hated the Tim stereotype that they put on us, but that's sick, man. That's like some Village People shit.

[Cam]

Yeah. You know, I like it, though. It's funny. It's. You know, I like it. It's supposed to be, you know, awkward, but I like it.

[Damaris]

Trying to. Trying to take the mask, the man away.

[Cam]

The whole hat with the reflective vest.

[Damaris]

Yeah, but it doesn't look like a real construction worker. It looks like a village person.

[Cam]

Yeah, but that's. That's the fun end. You're not supposed to look like a.

[Damaris]

Tyler Perry Strategy, man, You know, that's not rid of the masculine man. I see. I don't like this.

[Cam]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Because the Knicks are masculine men.

[Cam]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Don't try to. Don't try to dress them like ymca.

[Cam]

Who's the white boy with no shirt on? Is that somebody who. Tyler Colic? Is he a rookie? Second year. Okay. Is he good? All right. I have to check him out.

[Damaris]

Taking your shirt off in the garden. It's funny to me. I don't know why. Even, like, he's in the locker room. Oh, I just saw the top. I thought that was the car. I thought they were doing the fisheye shot.

[Cam]

Not in the locker room.

[Damaris]

So you feel. You feel a difference in the energy.

[Cam]

In New York, in the city.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Cam]

Well, first of all, we are back. Sponsored by Boost Mobile Unlimited Talk text at.

[Damaris]

Fuck. $25 a month until it's taken away.

[Cam]

Until it's taken away. But, yes, we had a big, big day. We've last seen each other election day in New York. I was on the phone with my homeboy, and he said something that was interesting. He said that the New York City mayor, maybe the second most. I don't know if he said powerful or he may say a powerful seat behind the President of the United States.

[Damaris]

I mean, I think your homeboy. Why is Nori calling me?

[Amara]

Like, what. We can always come back in.

[Damaris]

Yo, you live on the show right now, so be careful what you say.

[Friend or Guest]

Oh, fuck.

[Damaris]

I can give you a call back, bro.

[Friend or Guest]

I don't mind doing the show. I'm in.

[Damaris]

What's going on?

[Friend or Guest]

What's going on? How y' all doing?

[Damaris]

Can't complain. We were just talking about the mayoral race of your fine city that you left. You left New York before it was trendy.

[Friend or Guest]

Oh, damn.

[Cam]

I wasn't ready at all.

[Amara]

At all.

[Cam]

Yeah, yeah.

[Friend or Guest]

But, man, that was one of the best feelings of my life, man. Running the New York City Marathon, man. It's the only time I cried when the tears didn't come out because I was dehydrated.

[Damaris]

No. Congrats, bro. That's. That. That's big.

[Cam]

That was like.

[Damaris]

That's. That's a really big thing. You should be proud.

[Friend or Guest]

Yeah. Thank you, man. Thank you, man. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. How y' all doing, though? How's everything going with y', all, man?

[Damaris]

We good. We chilling. We just. Just potting every day.

[Friend or Guest]

Okay, okay, okay. Y' all.

[Damaris]

With who we had on Ms. Pat today, who do we have?

[Cam]

Every week is somebody. I don't know. I'm losing.

[Damaris]

Yeah. I'm losing track at this point.

[Friend or Guest]

Oh, no, no. I was. Bryson Tiller, I was just watching you.

[Cam]

What?

[Friend or Guest]

And I was calling you. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what I was calling you for.

[Damaris]

All right, well, appreciate the go. I'll give you a call when we finish recording there.

[Amara]

Spill whatever you call for. You stopped him.

[Damaris]

He said for Bryson Tiller.

[Amara]

No, he just called for Bryson Tiller.

[Damaris]

Maybe you just want to compliment the interview.

[Cam]

Yeah, I don't think it was.

[Damaris]

And we would have cut out any tea anyways. I'll call him one.

[Cam]

I don't think it was no Earl Gray on the other end of that call.

[Damaris]

Yeah, Nori doesn't really call me with tea, to be quite honest. Like, Nori's Actually, one of those good people that will call you and be like, yo, I watched this episode. You guys did great.

[Cam]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Like, he is one of those people. But as messy as he is, it.

[Cam]

Ain'T Messy Fridays, baby.

[Amara]

D. Why ain't it?

[Cam]

Because it's not Messy Friday. No, we did that last week. Last week, we had fun being messy a little bit. This week. This week, we chilling.

[Damaris]

We not.

[Cam]

You know, between. You know, that's a. Yeah, exactly.

[Damaris]

You know what's kind of funny, though, is, like, me and Damaris are the messy ones, and you try to stop us from talking about the mess. So then it's kind of weird how that worked out.

[Cam]

Yeah. But, you know, it's just. It's different when it's black on black mess.

[Damaris]

True.

[Cam]

Like black on black crime.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Amara]

Hearing white people coming on black mess, I don't like it. It feel racist.

[Damaris]

I mean, unfortunately, I made a career out of it, so I understand the culture. Yeah. No, now that I've never stayed out of black people's business.

[Cam]

You jumped head first into black people's business your entire life with impunity. Just habitual line, like, yo, you know what? Like, you ain't just come in and chill, like you said. Yeah. You had thoughts, you had ideas, you had feelings. Like, you ain't just sitting in the cutting.

[Damaris]

Here's what I would have done. Not knowing at all what it's like.

[Cam]

To be black if I were you. You definitely. If I were you.

[Damaris]

Why didn't you take life by the bootstraps?

[Cam]

Oh, man. Yes, we are all fucked in New York City. Just want to let y' all know.

[Amara]

Oh, my God, Ma, please. What?

[Cam]

I just said we're all fucked up.

[Damaris]

All right, back to your homeboy. I don't know about all that, but again, I'm stupid when it comes to geopolitics, but I understand New York City is like one of the, if not richest, cities in the globe. But, you know, I don't know if that's the case. There's too many checks and balances. Like, the mayor can only do so much.

[Amara]

I feel like the speaker of the House of Representatives might.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Cam]

But I guess it's because, I mean, no matter where you live, I think in the country, you know who the mayor of New York City is.

[Damaris]

I think if there's. In this case. Yes. I think when 911 happened. Yes. I don't know if you'd ask somebody in Illinois, like who Bloomberg was, if they would really know, or maybe because Bloomberg ran.

[Cam]

He owns half of Illinois Silently, I'm sure. A couple of those buildings of Bloomberg, for sure. Absolutely.

[Damaris]

They just had the CEO of JP Morgan on the news this morning. He just bought, I don't know, like, all of downtown or something just over there.

[Cam]

I'll take all of that.

[Damaris]

They're like, will you work with the mayor? He's like, I'm a patriot.

[Cam]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Didn't even answer the question.

[Cam]

Whatever that means. Whatever that means.

[Damaris]

Listen, I'm a patriot. But yes, there was a lot of energy in the city. I saw fucking. I saw AK on 42nd in a brand new Honda Civic with BBS's on it. That's how I knew that energy was. I've never seen BBS's on a Honda Civic before.

[Cam]

Yeah, things have changed, you know, it's a new.

[Damaris]

This was the night it happened.

[Amara]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

And it looked like he just pulled that Honda Civic off the lot.

[Cam]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

So, yeah, I mean, the energy's here, man.

[Cam]

I mean, but we all kind of knew that he was gonna win. Going into it, we felt like we liked Curtis Sliwa. We liked Sliwa. That was our guy Cuomo. We felt like we. Come on, family. You was just handsy. Four years ago, they kicked you out of the governor's seat. Now you're here trying to be the mayor, like, so, you know, we kind of felt like he wasn't a good choice, but we did like Curtis Leewa. But, you know, the people have decided. The people have voted. And Zoran Mamdani is the new mayor of New York City. January 1, effective January 1, 2026. And no matter who you vote, I'm gonna sound political here, Roy. Okay? Is that fine with you? No matter who you voted for, Mamdani is your mayor.

[Damaris]

That is true.

[Cam]

He is the mayor of New York City. So we all need to come together and help bring this city to a more prominent, more peaceful, more respectful, more loving place than it is today.

[Damaris]

As far as all the headlines, the last 24 hours of the estimate of 1 million people possibly leaving New York City. Zoran, you're already doing your job. Thank you so much.

[Josephine]

Leave.

[Damaris]

I hope more leave. Then we get rid of congestion prices.

[Amara]

Please.

[Damaris]

All the million people that are upset and want to get out of here. I'm calling your bluff. Everyone on Twitter that said, if he wins, I'm moving out of New York City. I'm calling your bluff. Do it.

[Cam]

Leave. I mean, but people leave. Nori's on the phone. He left New York City years ago.

[Damaris]

He left 30 years ago.

[Cam]

That's what I'M saying. So people have been leaving New York. Like that's not.

[Damaris]

Well, Nori left because he liked Miami, not because.

[Cam]

Is that why he left?

[Damaris]

Because Mayor Dinkins was there?

[Cam]

I don't know if that's why he left.

[Damaris]

But yeah, people, that was a different time.

[Cam]

No, I'm just saying people have been leaving New York. That's not, you know, I mean, I get what they're saying as far as like people in the top 1%. The millionaires that are told about leaving that get taxed that are what, 40, 42% of the income, they don't even live here.

[Damaris]

They took up billionaires row and none of them have even stepped foot in New York City.

[Cam]

But they still pay the taxes though. They have businesses here, they have companies here, they have properties here. So, you know, I mean, we'll have to wait and see what happens. But either way, Mamdani is the mayor and you know, no matter what happens, we all gonna have to deal with it somehow, some way. So let's just hope for the best.

[Damaris]

Let's go make Delaware.

[Josephine]

Poppin.

[Cam]

Nah, I'm cool. Nah, nah, I'll be in the streets of New York like Mad Max before I fucking move to Delaware.

[Damaris]

Taxes are great in Delaware. I wouldn't give a fuck Del State right there.

[Cam]

I don't care about Del State. I don't give a fuck about none of that. I'm never moving to Delaware. I wouldn't give a fuck what's going.

[Damaris]

On outside of politics. I did send you that. That snippet of the Curtis Sleewood cat documentary. Yes, I watched the entire thing this morning. Like you can get the full one, not just that clip. For those that don't know, last night I sent more a clip. Curtis Lee, we're talking to some Brit about cats and he was suggesting that cats are so powerful that when the rats smell the cats coming, the female rat, they abort if she's pregnant.

[Cam]

If the female rat smells a cat, it will abort the pregnancy on its own.

[Damaris]

Like it won't go to the clinic. Like it'll just abort.

[Cam]

I thought he was putting me on the game. I was like, word, that's interesting. So then right before I thought it out loud, the lady says, well, how does the rat form an abortion on itself? Like he was like, I don't know.

[Damaris]

But no, the funny shit was she asked him initially and then he started to explain what smelling was. And she was like, no, no, no, I understand that rats and cats can smell.

[Cam]

He kept going like this, the Nose.

[Damaris]

It's in the eyes, chico. It's in the eyes.

[Cam]

Fuck all that. Curtis, how does the rat have an abortion on its own?

[Damaris]

Well, up. I don't know if people were trolling me or not because I didn't reply to DMs, but when I posted that on my story, a lot of people in my request dms were like, he's actually telling the truth. So part of me, like, wants to really research that and see.

[Cam]

Yeah, we got to look into that.

[Damaris]

Yo, thinking an abortion would be crazy, man. That would save a lot of, like, the political back and forth. If women could just go and, like, it's just, man, it's gone.

[Cam]

That would save a lot of. Yeah, a woman could just perform an.

[Damaris]

Emotion on my mind. My choice on herself. Or you could just bring a cat around her, man.

[Cam]

Bring a cat around?

[Amara]

The fuck is wrong with you, bro?

[Damaris]

There wouldn't be a coat hanger in sight.

[Cam]

Buy a cat. Buy a cat for your girl when she's pregnant.

[Damaris]

That's the baby shower Burberry shirt. Your man just bought a cat. Oh, I know what time it is with you. You don't just buy cats.

[Friend or Guest]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Cam]

You can only see your man at Petland or Petco, just in the cat session. Ou2 bumping into your man at the cat section is crazy.

[Amara]

Ou2 is sick.

[Cam]

Oh, my God.

[Damaris]

Dwayne Reed. They lock everything up. It's gonna have the cats behind the thing.

[Cam]

Buying a cat over the counter is crazy. Yo, give me that. Anyone? Just give it to me. Sure. He talk about she late. Give it to me.

[Damaris]

But then I feel like I would be on the feminist side, where they have to pay for birth control and all that shit. Nah, don't put that on my health insurance. I should be able to buy a cat with my Medicaid.

[Cam]

Yeah, and then not only that, once you buy a cat, right? We could just share it, right? Like, you can stay at your house where I'm like, yo, I need the cat this weekend. You ain't gotta ask me no questions.

[Damaris]

And then there's, like, the one cat that your man's told her, no, this one works.

[Cam]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Damaris]

Like, that cat has, like, 17 bodies, for sure.

[Cam]

All right, man, stop, stop. Cause we got to cut some of this out.

[Damaris]

What do we have to cut out?

[Cam]

I know. Cause Peach, whenever Peach starts scratching his eyebrow, that means we on the line.

[Damaris]

All right, you know what? Let's talk about. Let's talk about politics.

[Cam]

Yeah, let's do that. This is the politics. The cats and Abortions. I thought this was politics.

[Damaris]

So Curtis ran on.

[Cam]

Exactly.

[Damaris]

Anyways, with that said, how is everyone's week?

[Cam]

Yo, I heard they popped on Curtis Lewa downtown. I saw a video that knew it was that old.

[Damaris]

It's a daily occurrence.

[Cam]

Yeah, they was throwing bikes, like city bikes at Curtis Lewis, all kind of shit.

[Damaris]

It's Iron man, though.

[Cam]

I'm like, no, not faces him. Because I heard the video. The caption said they was mad that Curtis didn't stepped down. And. And you know, I'm saying Cuomo could have received Curtis's votes. So people started throwing like at Curtis. I don't know if that's video because, you know, people find old videos and just put new captions and he gets.

[Damaris]

He gets attacked every day. So that could be from 2003 for all we know.

[Cam]

And that that was proven protest happening. It was protest in the streets for sure.

[Damaris]

It was proven wrong easily. If you add up what Cuomo and Sleevel did, it wouldn't have even beat. So. No, no, that was.

[Cam]

Mamdani smoked.

[Damaris]

He smoked even in the cat documentary, how it starts, how he meets the British.

[Cam]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

She goes, do you like London? And he said, well, I was stabbed in the mouth there with a dart. That's how the doc starts. And then he said, but it was great because health care is free. So they stitched me up for free.

[Cam]

We should have voted for him, man. We should have put him in there, man. We missed the opportunity.

[Amara]

And y' all talked about his assassination when they tried to assassinate him, right?

[Cam]

Yeah, he tries to get. They tried to kill him every weekend in the 80s. Kidding me. Yeah.

[Damaris]

And he taught like he talks about every day. Do we need to.

[Cam]

Yeah, Curtis is. He ain't.

[Damaris]

I didn't.

[Amara]

I don't listen to him. So I didn't know. I just was looking up.

[Cam]

Curtis Lee was New York's Chuck Norris for sure. Can't kill courtesy. We can't hurt him. Can't kill him.

[Damaris]

He loves cats. He has no lives. For sure.

[Cam]

Right there. He's gonna be right there. Don't worry about it.

[Damaris]

Speaking of inappropriate things, I don't like that when I go viral, it's for the things I go viral for. I wish I could go viral like mall for like liking Pepsi.

[Cam]

What you go viral for?

[Damaris]

Get in. Touched.

[Cam]

Oh.

[Amara]

Oh, that's going viral.

[Damaris]

It's on its way.

[Cam]

It's in the queue.

[Amara]

It's in the queue.

[Damaris]

Is funny as once it passed that one threshold of retweets, you know it's gonna get to the next level of non podless work.

[Amara]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

That's all it takes.

[Cam]

As soon as people get off work, they're gonna start sharing.

[Amara]

Oh, yeah. So it's on its way.

[Cam]

It's on its way. Right? It's in the queue.

[Amara]

It's in the queue.

[Cam]

It's in the queue.

[Damaris]

We had. We had the hilarious and legendary Ms. Pat on the Pod this week.

[Cam]

Shout out to Ms. Pat. We love you. Thank you for pull. I love the fact that Ms. Pat came and she said, I don't know who the fuck y' all are.

[Damaris]

That was the best part.

[Cam]

I said, oh, this is gonna be great.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Cam]

I said, Cause, Ms. Pat, I don't know shit about you other than you funny. That's it. And we sat and had a great conversation, and it was funny. And, you know, shout outs. Men's Mental Health Month. Right, Peach. Is that correct? Men's Mental Health Month. So we were just trying to help Rory, Ms. Pat and myself.

[Damaris]

That was the best way to start it.

[Cam]

Yes, we were trying to help Rory and, you know, just show him that we love him and that we see him. He doesn't go unseen and doesn't go unnoticed. And, you know, Ms. Pat did what she could to help Rory get over his trauma. And she shared her trauma as well. Um, obviously, Ms. Pat is in a place where she actually laughs and creates, you know, comedy and content out of her trauma, which is a strong thing to do.

[Damaris]

I will say. I never minded when you guys joked about it until Ms. Pat started joking about it. Cause she made me feel seen while laughing. And then I realized, you guys don't look at me and just laugh. No, that's how like, it finally was. Like, oh, wait, maybe I shouldn't be okay with how they. Cause Ms. Pat did it with care.

[Cam]

Did she?

[Damaris]

Like, I felt like I was being hugged while I was being clammed.

[Cam]

It's the Ms. Pat energy. She has that mom energy. That mother. That mother nurturing energy. So that's all she was just nurturing you to get over your trauma.

[Damaris]

Yeah, me too.

[Cam]

But it was a great conversation. So thank you, Ms. Pat, for pulling up. And check out Ms. Pat Special on Netflix. New season of Ms. Pat settles it. Ms. Pat settles it. Be.

[Damaris]

Should be out right now.

[Cam]

Actually, it is out today, so check that out. Shout out to Ms. Pat.

[Damaris]

She said she has her kids on there. Her fat son.

[Cam]

She says, man, you. If your. If Ms. Pat is your mom, you. It ain't nothing you ain't heard growing up.

[Damaris]

Oh, they got it.

[Cam]

You don't heard it all.

[Damaris]

They have to do family therapy. Is family therapy with a Miss Doctor Jen still a thing?

[Cam]

I haven't seen it on VH20.

[Damaris]

It's been a while, but yeah, I think. I think the dashes shut that one down. I think. I don't think they had a season after that, but they're like, no more. We're at the final boss.

[Cam]

Yeah, this is it.

[Damaris]

Therapy's not working.

[Cam]

This is it. It's over.

[Damaris]

But her on family therapy would be hilarious.

[Cam]

Absolutely.

[Damaris]

Would you ever do a reality show like that?

[Cam]

Family therapy?

[Damaris]

Yeah. Or they. There's a couple's therapy. One that Ghostface did that was pretty funny. I think that was with Dr. Jen too. That would be interesting. Family therapy would be funny. I don't know if I'd do couples therapy.

[Cam]

No, no, no.

[Damaris]

Family family therapy would be way funnier.

[Cam]

Family therapy would definitely be hilarious with my family, for sure. Actually, we should.

[Damaris]

I mean, we should pitch that separately with Dr. Jen on our own network. All of your brothers and Dr. Jen.

[Cam]

Yeah, that's a show.

[Damaris]

That's a fucking soul monster.

[Cam]

That's a show that would be.

[Damaris]

And then just throw Damaris and her sisters in there, like episode three.

[Cam]

We really want to take it. They bring the dashes back.

[Amara]

Oh, all right. See, now you're taking it too far.

[Cam]

We can really get to some therapy, huh?

[Damaris]

And then bring the kid that keeps saying, ho's my dad.

[Cam]

Just bring him on in while we at it, man. Let's therapy everybody. You know what I mean?

[Damaris]

Oh, that'd be funny.

[Cam]

No worrying now, Mal.

[Damaris]

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[Amara]

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[Damaris]

Prayers to everyone that was affected by that plane crash that looked like something out of a. A Michael Bay movie, The UPS crash, right. Yeah, in Kentucky. I want to say that was. Did you see some of the. The dash cam footage of one of the truck drivers that like, really legitimately looked like it was in a Michael Bay movie?

[Cam]

Yeah, I saw the. They had the footage from. I think it was a UPS driver that wasn't too far from shit. That was right where the crash happened. And when I saw that clip, I thought that was AI, you know, everything. Now you gotta ask, like, is this AI? You try to look for things in the video where you can kinda notice the AI, but yeah, that crash was crazy. I think it was three or four people on board.

[Damaris]

Yeah. And then I believe there's like 11 affected on the ground. They don't have all the details yet. They said that the death toll may.

[Cam]

Rise, but yeah, I mean, I'm sure, I mean, that people were near the airport, you know what I mean? So when it crashed like that and.

[Damaris]

How much fuel that thing has.

[Cam]

Yeah, nine people remain missing.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Cam]

So at least 12 people were killed.

[Damaris]

And with the conspiracy theory world, the worst thing they have now is experts, like conspiracy theorists have gone to the Next level, where they'll find, like, real pilots to back their craziness.

[Cam]

Oh, yeah.

[Damaris]

Before, it was just like, my source is YouTube now they're bringing on, like, people with. With wings. Yeah.

[Cam]

Like, for real work for ups.

[Damaris]

And they're like, listen, that plane could still fly with those three engines.

[Cam]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

And it's like, well, fuck, he's a pilot.

[Cam]

He knows.

[Damaris]

Maybe this idiot on YouTube is right. So that's the scary part. Now with all these things, everything is becoming a conspiracy. But prayers to everyone on top of that.

[Cam]

Yeah. That's tragic.

[Damaris]

Damaris, I know you're tight because you fly out every single weekend. 40 major city airports.

[Amara]

Yo, I'm reading the article right now while y' all was talking.

[Damaris]

I'm like, that's why you're so quiet, because you. Because you know your next three months is ruined.

[Cam]

Flights.

[Damaris]

You got seven Atlanta trips already scheduled on a Friday.

[Amara]

I was looking up, like, damn, like, how long would it take? Like, on a train? Like, I was.

[Cam]

Train. Atlanta is crazy.

[Damaris]

Last train. Last train to Atlanta.

[Cam]

Taking the train from Manhattan to Atlanta. Yeah, she love that nigga.

[Damaris]

Midnight train to Georgia.

[Cam]

Midnight train to Georgia. For real? Is that Gladys? Yo. Yeah. What? Josh, Baby D said she was looking at train departures.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Amara]

Cause this is crazy. They're about to cut down.

[Cam]

No, you're crazy. If you take a train from Manhattan.

[Amara]

To Georgia, 10% of flights are about to get cut down. That's insane. Especially for. Well, I've been flying. Rory, you flew recently. When you went, you had to fly to Miami to get on the cruise. How was your experience?

[Damaris]

The way back was trash. Because you guys got, like, flooded. Like, half of Bed Stuy was Water worlds.

[Amara]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

So all the flights that were canceled the day before, they put. The day my flight was. So I was pushed back to way, way later.

[Amara]

Really?

[Damaris]

But it wasn't because of this. It was just because of the weather.

[Amara]

But going into the airport, like, I remember I walked in and I called myself, like, catching, like, a quick little frontier flight. Because I bought it last minute when I was going to one Music.

[Cam]

Yeah. That's what they about to cut.

[Amara]

I was.

[Cam]

Yo, they going frontier first.

[Amara]

This girl was asking this lady something because they're not letting you fly without the real ideas. Real IDE IDs, either. Now, that is starting. They're starting to kick in.

[Cam]

Wait, you can't fly without real id at some airports.

[Amara]

They're starting to, like, not approve you.

[Cam]

Even with a passport?

[Damaris]

No, with the passport.

[Amara]

If you have a passport, you're fine. But your regular ID they're giving people, it's a legit.

[Damaris]

It's a legitimate shakedown. They just want you to pay an extra 200 so they can put a different sticker on your license. Yeah, it has literally no purpose. It's just a shakedown.

[Amara]

Yeah. So this one girl was like, well, I didn't know. This isn't.

[Guest or Sponsor Voice]

That.

[Amara]

And this. That lady looked her dead in her face and said, sweetheart, it's six o' clock in the morning and I haven't been paid in weeks. I don't give a fuck. Get out of line.

[Damaris]

And I was like, you know what, what's crazy? I've traveled a lot since they started that and not one time have I been asked or somebody that was traveling with me and somebody that was coming up from the south, didn't have her passport but had the regular ID and called and they were like, ain't nobody checking that shit.

[Amara]

They were. That. They were. They're not letting go in. I've been. I've been flying with my passport since they. I don't even want to deal with that. Like, I just fly with my passport. But yeah, they're cutting. The people aren't showing up to work. Nobody's showing up to work because they're not getting paid. So is getting delayed, pilots not showing up. You don't have the amount of people on the airplane you're supposed to. It's. It's bad.

[Damaris]

You could risk it with clear. But then it'd be the one day that they like pull you out for the random check and have to look at your id. Because I've thought about that too. Like if I forgot my ID or something, I'll just go through clear. Because they don't do that. It'd be the one day they'd be like, come over here, let me see your passport.

[Amara]

You know, they don't got clear on the frontier side. I learned that too. I'm like. I'm like, where's the clear line? They're like, we don't have that over here. Terminal 7 in JFK. I'd never. I'm like, that is all the way in the back. I had never been over there.

[Damaris]

I ain't know that shit went up to seven.

[Cam]

I saw it was a.

[Damaris]

That shit in Far Rockaway.

[Cam]

Somebody posted a video of a PRE. A TSA PreCheck line in Houston that was like four hours long. TSA PRE check line.

[Damaris]

Now you wonder why I was freaking out in the.

[Cam]

Was four hours. That is crazy. But. But I keep Telling people. I'm like, if everybody is getting clear.

[Amara]

Yeah.

[Cam]

And everybody's getting pre checked, like, what you think is gonna happen at some point? Like, we all gonna be on that line. And I've been saying that for, like the last two years. I'm like, bro, I'm not getting. I'm not getting none of that shit. Like, I don't think that it really makes a difference for me. Like, I think if you fly in out of New York or any major metropolitan city, I feel like as long as you get there an hour and a half, two hours before your flight, if you're flying first class, like, if you're flying, like, priority, I think you'll be fine.

[Amara]

Well, most.

[Damaris]

Well, if that's. You realize those are the least amount of seats on the plane.

[Cam]

I said, no, I'm saying if you're flying that. I think you should be fine.

[Damaris]

Okay, so six people should be fine.

[Cam]

I mean, listen, man.

[Damaris]

But also, you ain't the chosen six. Then. I don't know.

[Cam]

I don't know what to tell you.

[Amara]

When I so clear got me because I was running so late for my flight that I was like, just. Just sign me. They were like, well, you could get the free trial for clear. Just sign me up, bro. Sign me up.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Amara]

But then I went to cancel and they were like, we'll give you an extra two months free. I'm gonna take that, but I ain't paying for that shit.

[Cam]

I almost got it in. Almost got cleared in Atlanta. When he was coming back from Atlanta, I think he was coming to New York. And I was. And it was. The airport was empty. I was like, you know what? All right, let me. Let me get this shit. And he was trying to scan my eyes. I guess something wasn't working. He turned around and looked at my. I was like, yo, fam, don't look in my eyes like that. He looked at my eyes like he was an optometrist or something.

[Damaris]

You thought your eyes were the problem, not the machine. You think I got on with you to my eyes, you guys.

[Cam]

He turned around, looked me right in my eyes. I was like, yo, f. Back up. Like, why you looking me in my.

[Damaris]

Face looking at you and not the machine?

[Cam]

I'm like, yo, what you doing, bro? I said, you know what? Never mind, man.

[Amara]

Give me my lens, bro.

[Cam]

Yeah, give me my idea. I get out of here, man.

[Damaris]

You going to do this to your face?

[Cam]

Like the. He about to give me some eye drops or something. I'm like, yo, get the. Out my face.

[Damaris]

Man, listen, I still like the clear pre check combo. It's laziness. I don't want to take my shoes off. I don't want to take my electronics out. I don't want to go through the. The microwave and throw up the rock. Like, I just don't want. I just. I just don't. I don't trust that microwave. I'd rather go through like the 1990s.

[Amara]

You don't trust them, but you heat your food up in a real microwave?

[Damaris]

Not really. I don't really use a microwave like that.

[Amara]

Oh, my bad. Oh, you. You one of those people that put your food in the oven to warm it up?

[Cam]

Yeah, but you have to though, depending on what it is.

[Damaris]

Depending. Most stuff.

[Cam]

Yeah. Like you can't put everything in the, in the, in the microwave. Like bread. No, anything that's.

[Damaris]

Microwave is crazy.

[Cam]

Anything that's baked, anything that's like on that side of anything that's fried, you can't.

[Amara]

Well, see, I do air. I do the air fryer for anything.

[Cam]

Well, the air fryer, of course, that's, you know, that's the holy grail. That's like the top of the totem.

[Damaris]

But give it 60 years. We're all gonna look like Hiroshima because of those things.

[Cam]

Air fryer. Now just get the stainless steel one. Don't get the.

[Damaris]

Because that's. That's what it is, right?

[Cam]

I mean, that helps. It's not, it's not because the other one with that chemical on it. What is it called?

[Amara]

I do not know the name of chemicals off the top of my head, baby.

[Damaris]

No, but it's whatever the nukes are made out of.

[Cam]

When you have the air fryer that has the black, like the non stick coated.

[Damaris]

Okay, yeah.

[Cam]

That is what they're saying is like, you know, it's not good for you. But if you have a. They have stainless steel air fryers now where it's just like all complete stainless steel.

[Amara]

Teflon. It's like Teflon acrylamide.

[Damaris]

I just don't trust anything that can make food that good that quickly. Like, that's scary. Something has to be wrong there.

[Amara]

No, just science.

[Cam]

Cause if you put it in the oven on broil.

[Damaris]

Science has been fucking us up forever.

[Amara]

Broil cooks shit faster than the air fryer ever could, man.

[Damaris]

But broil is just.

[Amara]

Yo, you got.

[Damaris]

It's just a hot ass.

[Amara]

Yo. Every Thanksgiving, somebody put them rolls in our broil.

[Cam]

I was so hungry one day I had some leftovers. I'm like, ooh, I'M gonna put this in the oven on broil. This shit gonna come out. It's gonna taste like Re Rock. Like this shit just came out fresh, right? Nigga, I went and used a. Took a piss, went to the bathroom. I'm talking about 40, maybe. Maybe a minute. Maybe a minute tops. I was away from the kitchen.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Cam]

And I came back to the kitchen, bro. I tell you, my shit was completely burnt.

[Amara]

Portland mad as fuck.

[Damaris]

And did you have the thing a minute up top?

[Cam]

It was like. It wasn't the top rack. It was like the middle completely burnt. I was standing there looking at this shit like this is.

[Amara]

I'd have threw the whole shit out the window.

[Cam]

I had to. A minute. That's it. This shit was on, bro. For one. Not even a full minute. Maybe 57 seconds. Completely fucking burnt everything.

[Damaris]

When I do the reverse sear broil for the steak, I don't even. I'm scared to even look away from the oven. Like just, just one head and your whole steak could be fine.

[Cam]

It's gone. It's over. I am thinking about taking a culinary class though.

[Guest or Sponsor Voice]

Really?

[Amara]

For vegan cuisine?

[Cam]

No, for all cuisine. Oh yeah. I just wanted to learn. I feel like if you like really know how to cook, I feel like you can go anywhere in the world and be fine. Like if you really know how to like cook for real. Not just like I'm hide in the kitchen. I'm talking about you really know how to. Different spices and things like that and what region of the world these spices come from. And when you one of those, you could land anywhere on the planet and I could.

[Damaris]

And get pussy.

[Cam]

Oh yeah, that too. But. And be completely like, I'm good. Like I don't need nothing else. I can.

[Amara]

Could you see yourself being like a housewife and cooking for your wife?

[Cam]

Everybody a housewife. I could never see myself.

[Amara]

Husband and cooking for your wife like every day or three. Three times a week or something like that.

[Cam]

Cooking for my wife three times a week. Three times a week isn't bad. Every day. No, I'm not cooking for my wife. I'm not cooking for myself every day of the week.

[Damaris]

If my only responsibility was to clean the house and exist, yeah, I'd take cooking classes and get into it.

[Cam]

And you would have dinner on the stove by 7:15 every day.

[Damaris]

Yeah, I. I'm envious of housewives. I. It's not all it's cracked up to be over here. I'd like to stay home.

[Cam]

Yeah, but I don't think you would be like Every day. Cooking.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Cam]

What's wrong with that? I don't know about that, bro. I can't. Not every.

[Damaris]

I enjoy cooking. It's like therapeutic. And you don't have to do a whole Thanksgiving meal Wednesday night.

[Cam]

I'm the opposite. I like cleaning every day. I could clean every day. Like, I could find something to clean in the house every day.

[Amara]

I could. I do clean every day just to keep my house from falling, imploding. But cooking, cleaning every day, it's easy to. You do.

[Damaris]

I would have a platinum Tumblr account. I would be the best DIY person. I'd just be building in the house. I would have so much fun as a house husband.

[Amara]

So much fun with Amara as well.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Josephine]

Okay.

[Damaris]

She'd be able to. She'd be Beethoven by now.

[Cam]

Piano lessons in the house.

[Damaris]

Oh, yeah. Yeah.

[Cam]

Maybe you should switch with your boyfriend for like a week and just see. Let him cook every day.

[Damaris]

Anyway, she's taking a train to Atlanta.

[Amara]

Cameron.

[Damaris]

But first of all, don't shame the train thing. Pause. That's on my bucket list is to do like a train ride for like a week, like with the cabin. And I probably want to do it in Europe. I don't think I'd want to do it in the States. But that is something I want to do.

[Cam]

When you want to. Where you want to travel to.

[Damaris]

I mean, algorithms have up all our brains. That. I clicked one Sweden thing. That Sweden train ride to Norway or whatever the it was is beautiful. That looks like Harry Potter and the Polar Express. I would love to do that for a week.

[Cam]

How much is the Oriental Express, Josh?

[Damaris]

That just feels racist. I don't know why.

[Amara]

Yeah, I feel like.

[Cam]

I don't know why is that. Why is that? Right? Oriental is racist.

[Damaris]

It wasn't.

[Amara]

What?

[Cam]

Jesus Christ. We can't say anything?

[Amara]

No, I think oriental rug.

[Cam]

The mayor of New York is a Muslim. Like, we can't say Oriental. Jesus Christ.

[Damaris]

Saying you can't say Oriental Jesus Christ is even funnier. Starting price for luxury overnight journeys range from 3, 700 per person. Yeah, like, I want to ride the Wild, Wild west train.

[Cam]

Look at that. Like, that's like a. That's like riding a museum.

[Damaris]

Yeah. No, the ones that's fire, the ones in like Finland and all that are similar to this. I think that would be really cool. And like, they got. They have the big ass windows so you can see like all the scenery. And I would like to do that.

[Cam]

I know somebody. I. I wouldn't say names on air, but somebody rented that Entire Oriental Express for somebody for their birthday.

[Damaris]

For how long?

[Cam]

A couple years ago. I don't know. I don't know how long. But everybody rented the whole. Just for the day. And I just traveled on it, I guess.

[Damaris]

What's, what's the route that was.

[Cam]

Huh?

[Damaris]

What's the route like? It hits like all the oriental countries or.

[Amara]

It's the Orient Express. Stop saying oriental.

[Cam]

Oh, it's the Orient Express. I'm sorry. Yes, I stand corrected. Thank you, Baby D. Thank you for that.

[Damaris]

Okay, so it starts. Starts in Paris in. It can end in Istanbul. Istanbul and Budapest has stopped. Yeah, this, this would be fun. Wait for 3, 700, you could do this whole route. I mean, they'll probably put you in like the. Yeah, you'll be sleeping cook's quarters, but.

[Cam]

Sleeping next to the potatoes. But it's okay.

[Damaris]

But I'm sure that would be 37.

[Cam]

To get you in the kitchen. Don't worry.

[Damaris]

I like. All right, I don't want to sound like mall with the first class thing, but if you like really, really budget for like a year, you can make it happen. 9,000 for like the biggest one. And this is like a month and some change type of thing. That wouldn't be a bad like vacation. If you saved for a couple years. That would be a cool 9,000 to spend, I think.

[Cam]

Yeah, for sure.

[Damaris]

You're checking off a lot of places and taking your time too. Not just flying and not only that, just.

[Cam]

Just the memory of just being able to say you experienced that and you. You've done that is like, that's what it's really about. Like you live with that. You have obviously pictures and videos. Like just the landscape of traveling through those different, you know, places is like. That's movie shit, man. Yeah, the shit you saw in movies growing up. Like, so.

[Damaris]

And that's.

[Cam]

I think that's something I want to do for sure.

[Damaris]

If you had like one of those great three month relationships, this would be great. Like month two. So you have the first month to like, you know.

[Cam]

But you can't divide. Nah, nah. Cause that's too much. You setting the bar too high. You take on the Orient Express in the first three months of y' all dating.

[Damaris]

No, it would be month two and we would have month three to just decompress and just let it fade out and never speak to each other.

[Cam]

There's no way you're taking a girl on the trip on Orient Express and think that you're getting rid of her.

[Damaris]

The three month relationship, both parties are aware of what? This is.

[Cam]

She's not leaving, bro. There's no way.

[Damaris]

Nah, leave her in Budapest.

[Cam]

If a girl took you on the.

[Damaris]

Orient Express, tell her the wrong time to come back to the trip.

[Cam]

If a girl took you on a trip on the Orient Express, you wouldn't leave her.

[Damaris]

I'd be a househusband.

[Cam]

Exactly. You would not leave her. You would be over there cleaning that.

[Damaris]

Girl bathroom three house in a cot.

[Cam]

Yeah.

[Amara]

What?

[Cam]

I'm not never leaving. You crazy. This girl took me on the Orient Express. I'm never leaving.

[Amara]

It's been plenty of girls that have done nice for y' all that y' all have had no problem.

[Cam]

A girl ain't never took me on Orient Express. She may have took me on the D train.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Cam]

She may have took me on 50.

[Damaris]

Night Swipe because I couldn't reach my wallet.

[Cam]

Yeah. Orient Express. No.

[Amara]

Y' all have had women. Okay, not the Orient spirit, but y' all have went had women do really nice things for y' all that y' all still didn't want.

[Damaris]

Yeah, but I ain't asked you to do all that.

[Amara]

Really nice.

[Cam]

All right. What's really nice things?

[Amara]

Oh, here we go.

[Cam]

I'm just saying. What's really nice things?

[Amara]

What's really nice to you do?

[Cam]

Orient Express is really nice. That's the really.

[Damaris]

This is the bar right here.

[Sponsor Voice]

Yeah.

[Cam]

This is the reason we pulled this map up, Baby D. I don't know. Just something very thoughtful and very like. Okay, she pays attention. Like she's.

[Amara]

And you've had women pay attention to you and you. Are you with them currently?

[Cam]

No. I'm single, Baby D. Oh, okay. Everybody's not in love. And during this holiday season, you know, this is the most traumatic and depressing time of year for a single black man in America, right?

[Amara]

I'm depressed.

[Damaris]

Men's mental health.

[Cam]

You ain't depressed.

[Amara]

Yes, I am.

[Damaris]

You looking at better help.

[Amara]

Everybody is depressed right now.

[Cam]

Everybody ain't depressed.

[Amara]

Everybody is depressed. Food stamps gone.

[Cam]

Yeah, I never had food stamps. Can't miss what you ain't have. Oh, never have.

[Damaris]

Food stamps are gone.

[Cam]

Ain't getting their food stamps.

[Amara]

Where you been, bro?

[Cam]

Christ.

[Damaris]

Yeah, see, I didn't know, like, that's. Who's voting for Mom.

[Cam]

Donnie. See, these are the ones that's voting for Mom. They don't even know what's going on.

[Damaris]

Because I'm about to get a corner store. I just walk in and take. And then get on the bus and go home.

[Cam]

Get on the bus for free.

[Damaris]

My free food.

[Cam]

Take everything for free. Get on the bus.

[Damaris]

I'm in. I'm in great spirits.

[Cam]

Prostitution is legal. I saw a chick last night, she said, all right, now look, I'm about to test this, cuz y' all took my snaps. So if I go out here and sell some and y' all lock me up, somebody's lying.

[Damaris]

Gotta wait till January 1st. Oh, New Year's Eve is gonna be.

[Cam]

Oh, my God.

[Damaris]

When that ball drop at midnight, I.

[Cam]

Think we gonna get. I. We get peep shows back in Times Square. Ooh, I think we bring those.

[Damaris]

Move the Eminem store away.

[Cam]

Yeah, let's get rid of the store. Yeah. We don't even eat M&M's no more. Let's get that out of there. Let's just put a brothel, put like Moulin Rouge right there where the Eminem store is in Times Square. Yeah, let's look at the women in the window like it's. It's the red light district in Amsterdam. And let's just sell pussy in Manhattan again. I think that's what will help bring back the. The vibe of New York City or the Broadway shows.

[Damaris]

Could do Moulin Rouge live, but then it also be real. Like, you know, the intermission, they have, like, the snack area.

[Cam]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Like, you could go get.

[Cam]

You could really get sex.

[Damaris]

Yeah. In the 20 minutes before fire. And then Lil Kim could get a residency as. What was the song that they all did for the soundtrack?

[Amara]

Lady Marmalade.

[Damaris]

Yeah. Come on, we gotta get that back streaming to the charts. Yeah, they deserve it.

[Cam]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Who else was on that record?

[Cam]

Christina Aguilera.

[Amara]

Christina Aguilera, Maya.

[Damaris]

Classic. Oh, that video. When I was going through puberty, Lil Kim, I had to put a textbook on my lap.

[Cam]

Was Missy in that?

[Amara]

Yes, Missy was.

[Damaris]

No, now we're just naming. There wasn't 30 people in the song.

[Amara]

Every single person we named was on there.

[Damaris]

I don't think Missy was on there.

[Amara]

I think Josh.

[Damaris]

Maybe Josh's favorite rapper of all time.

[Cam]

His favorite rapper is Missy.

[Amara]

Oh, Missy does talk on it.

[Cam]

She probably produced it.

[Damaris]

Oh, I can see that.

[Cam]

Yeah. Yeah, she probably produced it.

[Damaris]

Josh and the Rolling Stone.

[Amara]

Yeah. Christina Aguilera, Loken, Maya Pink.

[Cam]

Oh, Missy's not on it, though.

[Amara]

Missy's not on it.

[Damaris]

No, she did like her little intro. The way Timberland used be to.

[Cam]

Did she produce it? She had to produce it.

[Amara]

I doubt it.

[Cam]

Let me see you doubt it. She produced every fucking thing back, especially at that time.

[Damaris]

But, yeah, either way, this might be the best New Year's Eve that we've ever had.

[Cam]

I'm looking forward to it.

[Damaris]

I haven't been outside in a very long time with New Year's Eve, but that. That could be it for us.

[Amara]

You are not going outside.

[Cam]

We might have to. Just to see. Just to see what the energy is. Just to see.

[Damaris]

Listen, I'm a guardian angel. I gotta take care of the prostitutes that are now available.

[Amara]

I love how the guys from the Bronx just ride around and be shooting in the air on New Year's Eve. Gotta love that.

[Damaris]

No, you don't have to love that.

[Cam]

No, we don't love that.

[Amara]

But they don't be shooting at people.

[Damaris]

They shoot in the air like midnight. I've never seen anyone driving around do it. I've seen people, like, in courtyard areas do it. You just driving just like this.

[Cam]

Wait till this New Year's. Wait till you see. I don't. You ever see how Muslims celebrate weddings?

[Damaris]

The people that usually let their guns go off in New York City at midnight are not the Muslims.

[Cam]

Until you get a Muslim mayor do. Whose job takes effect at the strike of midnight, December 31st. This is about to be a legendary.

[Damaris]

New strike of midnight.

[Cam]

All right, man, it man, it dog. Listen, man, all right, we gonna see it. We just go. Let's just see what happens. That's all.

[Damaris]

I bet nothing changes.

[Cam]

Well, I'm on that side too, but.

[Damaris]

You know, but hey, second biggest position in the world.

[Cam]

Second most powerful. Powerful in the country.

[Damaris]

Not the world they regulate in St. Louis.

[Cam]

No, but I mean, you know, it's just the biggest city in the world, so, you know.

[Amara]

Stupidest I've ever heard.

[Cam]

Yeah, yeah, but everybody knew who he was.

[Damaris]

Listen, man, did you guys see his. It wasn't even a speech. They just caught him, I don't know, walking out the hookah lounge or something. He was like, finally I. I could go to St. Barts without y' all breathing down my neck.

[Cam]

Eric Adams can't wait to spend that money he stole.

[Damaris]

And the fact when he was campaigning of how much he cared about New York City and this job, he would never leave it. It's all he lives in. He said in that interview. Said I would have to be to want to take that job again.

[Cam]

Yeah, we'll never see Eric Adams in New York again, ever. It's over.

[Damaris]

That's not a bad plan, man. Four years, get 10 mil and just go retire and you got one of your chicks. A quarter million dollar job.

[Cam]

Yeah, just go sit down somewhere resourceful.

[Damaris]

Did you see on Cameron's show, he was asked about the J. Cole.

[Cam]

I did see. I did see Talk with Flea with Cam, and Sin City.

[Damaris]

Sin is great on that show, by the way.

[Cam]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Because you guys did cover it when I was gone.

[Amara]

Yes, we did.

[Damaris]

Lawsuit. But I thought it was very funny that Cam just sat there quiet on a podcast which went like this.

[Cam]

I mean, because he can't really.

[Amara]

Pending litigation.

[Cam]

Yeah. He shouldn't be talking about it.

[Damaris]

That is fair.

[Cam]

Right? Where.

[Damaris]

I mean, where do you guys stand on it now? Now that time has passed a bit.

[Cam]

I mean, like I told Baby D. If. If J. Cole hadn't. Assuming that this is real, I think that it. It is real. But assume that it's real. I think that it's just a thing where Cole just, you know, isn't. I guess if it's. If it's Cole directly responding to Cam or if Cole's people have not been responding to Cam, I think that Cam was left with no other, you know, no other angle here other than to take it to court.

[Damaris]

Yeah. I don't think Cam is the wrong.

[Cam]

So, I mean, you know, if he did that and, you know, obviously he did the verse. If J. Cole said he was gonna do something, a lot of time has passed, and there's no communication. I think Cam is like, all right, well, shit, I don't know. I tried reaching out and not getting no response. You know, my people reached out. No response there. So we got to take this thing to the courts, and, you know, you got to respond when the courts contact you.

[Damaris]

So, I mean, I guess I'm not shocked because this is all gonna happen behind the scenes, but Cole seems like somebody that would try to, like, nip this in the bud right away. Like, he would call Cam after that whole thing happened and would be like, yo, my bad. I've been busy with this. If someone didn't get back to you, let's say let's resolve this. Not because he was scared of any loss or anything, just because I think that's the type of guy he is. I want them to have this conversation on Cam show. I think that would be the best. Just get rid of the lawsuit and just have the two of them talk on the show about how it even got to this and open up and talk about their feelings.

[Cam]

Well, I do think Cole planned on doing. I don't know if he was planned on giving Cam a verse. I don't know what he would be giving Cam a verse for.

[Damaris]

Well, the rumor was that. That Cam didn't want the. The verse swap or not really verse Swap. But he used the I'm ready beat instead of getting any pub. He was supposed to do Cam's show.

[Cam]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

And then someone from his team initially had said that he was taking the year off, wasn't doing interviews, and then he did Yachty's podcast, and it was like, oh, okay, I get if you weren't doing any interviews, but then when you come back around, I understand. Do my show first. Yeah, but then you just did Yachty. Yeah, I would feel away, too.

[Cam]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

So I. But I think it would be fine if they just speak.

[Cam]

But I don't think Cole is going to do any. He's not making any appearances on any. Cause the Yachty thing was. That was before the beef, right?

[Damaris]

Yes.

[Cam]

So I think. Post the whole beef thing. I don't think Cole is doing any.

[Damaris]

Yeah, it was.

[Cam]

Yeah. I don't think Cole's doing any interviews on any platform until the album is done and he's ready to put it out. I just don't. I don't see the reason that he would even make any appearances anywhere until the album is, you know, ready to go.

[Damaris]

I get it. Well, I think he should go to Cam first and just resolve this between the two of them.

[Cam]

Yeah, that'd be a good, cool conversation to. To watch.

[Damaris]

Yeah. Where. Where do you stand on the Michael Jackson trailer that just came out, supposed to be released?

[Amara]

I haven't seen it either.

[Damaris]

April 24, 2026.

[Amara]

Playing Michael Jackson, his nephew, if I'm not mistaken.

[Cam]

Okay. Keeping my family.

[Damaris]

I watched the trailer. The trailer is very good. I'm nervous. I'm not going into it, like, in a pessimistic way, but this is like, this. This is a lot of pressure, man.

[Cam]

Greatest artist of all time, like, telling.

[Damaris]

This story on the big screen with the right budget, with Lionsgate, like, there's no excuses. This isn't the. The FX version.

[Cam]

Okay.

[Damaris]

Oh, yeah, no, no. They got the names there. All the right pieces based off the trailer are there. They have no excuse. This isn't the Lifetime version. This is it. This is the real. No pun intended. This is the real Michael Jackson movie.

[Amara]

Jafar Jackson, who is the son of Jermaine Jackson and Alejandro Genevieve. So Jermaine's son.

[Cam]

All right, well, he got big shoes. I mean, you know, his uncle is. Is who he is.

[Amara]

Yeah, man.

[Damaris]

I don't know. It looks.

[Cam]

I mean, look, they got the right people in it. Yeah. Yeah.

[Amara]

This is man who playing Janet.

[Cam]

Yo, this ain't. See, you see what it says? You see what it's Called Michael.

[Amara]

They got everybody listed, but who's nobody? They don't have it. Is anybody playing Janet? That's all I'm saying.

[Cam]

I'm definitely going to see that in imax.

[Amara]

Yep.

[Cam]

Kidding me. Definitely going to see that. See we. With technology, we spoken about it before. Movies like this now you're able to kind of implement the technology and the AI shit in film to where you can have like, yes, it's not Michael, but like you can use Michael dancing.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Cam]

Kind of AI, you know, his nephew's face in certain scenes, certain shots. There's a way, I think with technology that you know, will make this, this movie even. Well, the story more incredible than it is.

[Damaris]

I love Lorenz Tate playing Barry Gordy. What other Motown esque story was he in? Wasn't Lorenz Tate in one of those.

[Amara]

Why Don't Fools Fall in Love?

[Cam]

Yeah, he played Frankie Lyman.

[Damaris]

Frankie Derek Lucas. Johnny Cochran is very funny to me. I don't know why. He'll probably smoke that role. But playing Puff and Johnny Cochran is just a funny thing to have on your.

[Cam]

Neil Long is playing Ms. Jackson and.

[Amara]

Coleman Domingo is playing Joe. They keep.

[Cam]

This is why they keep casting Colman Domingo as like an abusive. Oh no, he played Mr. He played Mr. He played. He played Mr. In Color Purple. Like what's up? Coleman Domingo is cool as shit. Like why they keep casting him in the movie?

[Amara]

You know what I don't like about every movie they cast Joe Jackson in? They keep making him dark. Joe Jackson is a light skinned man. He looks like goddamn. What's his name? Maine. The dude always say Maine. Terrence Howard. He's like his color with light eyes. Why do they keep casting him as like a dark skinned black man?

[Damaris]

And why didn't they cast Terrence Howard as Joe Jackson, man? Cause that would have went right to the box office.

[Amara]

You know what's so funny is that. Holy shit.

[Damaris]

That would have been funny.

[Amara]

Terrence Howard plays one of the brothers in the TV one.

[Cam]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Oh yeah, that's right.

[Amara]

Yeah, one of the brothers.

[Damaris]

Yo, that TV one, that was. Was that Lifetime.

[Amara]

I don't know who. I think it might be ABC or something.

[Damaris]

Bad.

[Amara]

Perfect. Bad. What are you talking about?

[Cam]

It's like the perfect.

[Damaris]

What's the other Jackson one that they meme up all the time.

[Amara]

No, you're talking about when Flex Alexander played Michael Jackson.

[Damaris]

Yes. Come on.

[Amara]

Was absolutely horrible. Like growing up, I thought that that was like a skit. I didn't. I never knew that that was a real movie. I've Never seen it. Yeah, but, yeah, that was sick. But no, this is. I think this is gonna be good.

[Damaris]

I. I remember the rumor being the. The gentleman that played Michael on the Broadway show that, like, was revered. I thought he was gonna be the one to play Mike for this actual movie, but. Yeah, I didn't know it was gonna be like a nephew, so.

[Cam]

Yeah, no, the Jackson. The American Dream.

[Amara]

Yeah, that's.

[Cam]

That's the best. Yeah, I watch that every year when it comes on. It should be coming out soon. The. The. The. The actor that played the young Marlon Jackson on that series just passed away.

[Amara]

Oh, really?

[Cam]

Oh, wow.

[Damaris]

Okay.

[Cam]

Floyd. Floyd Rogers Myers, I believe his name is Junior. Prayers and condolences to him and his family. Yeah, I just. I read that last week. Jason Weaver, who played young Michael, he posted it. Shout out to Jason Weaver. That's fam right there. He posted a tribute to him on his page just saying his condolences. And I saw that. I was like, damn. But, yeah, that Jackson American Dream series is one of the best series, I think, that we all watch every year. Whenever they. Whenever that is, I'm watching it like, I've never seen it.

[Amara]

Yeah, you know, holidays coming up, they play that and Harry Potter just on repeat.

[Cam]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

What station they play Harry Potter on?

[Amara]

Every. Every station. HBO plays it 247 and then usually ABC.

[Cam]

Where. Where do y' all still watch the Christmas Story every year?

[Amara]

No, no, I never was a Christmas Story kid.

[Damaris]

On the white side, we watched the one where Tim Allen just, like, becomes Santa.

[Cam]

Santa Claus, right? Is it called.

[Damaris]

Is it Tim Allen?

[Cam]

Yeah, it's Tim Allen.

[Damaris]

Yeah. And the whites. Like, we. That's our. We love that one. And elf. We love Elf.

[Cam]

Home Alone, obviously.

[Damaris]

Of course. Yeah. That goes without saying. Has. Has Mike's nephew ever acted before? Is this his first time?

[Cam]

He's probably acted like his uncle a.

[Damaris]

Few times around the house since birth.

[Cam]

My uncle is Michael Jackson. I've definitely acted like my uncle a few times.

[Damaris]

I mean, but listen, O' Shea Jackson Jr. Did great as Cube, and that was his first time acting. He did a great, great job.

[Amara]

Oh, he's a singer. He's a. He sings.

[Damaris]

Okay.

[Amara]

He's covered songs.

[Cam]

I think everybody in the Jackson family sings.

[Amara]

Yeah, he's cover songs by Sam Cooke and Barbie.

[Damaris]

We know Joe's program.

[Amara]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

He take his grandkids.

[Cam]

He may be going, but that bloodline is still. They still get up and got to get in the living room and get proper routine around. Gonna keep this thing go. Keep this train going.

[Damaris]

No, I'm excited to see it. I'm not gonna go in being pessimistic, but this. This is a lot of pressure.

[Cam]

It looks great, man. It looks great. Only so I didn't even know they were making this movie. You know how you hear about movies. That's happening.

[Damaris]

I had only heard because of the Broadway show. I'd heard that that guy that was playing Mike on Broadway was gonna play him in the actual movie. I think Aunt Clements had told me that. Or somebody. I don't wanna put that on him, but. So I knew there was a movie being made. Just.

[Cam]

Did Jafar play him on Broadway? Is that the one who played.

[Damaris]

No, no.

[Amara]

Okay.

[Damaris]

No, he didn't. But yeah.

[Cam]

The only other movie I'm waiting for now is Jamie Foxx with Mike. The Mike Tyson movie. When are we getting that?

[Damaris]

The preview. I mean, the preview was crazy.

[Cam]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Wasn't that like two years ago?

[Cam]

2. It might be more than that.

[Damaris]

Well, don't do that, because we got the Andre 3000 Jimi Hendrix trailer for about 15 years and never got it.

[Cam]

The Jam, the Jamie Foxx Mike Tyson movie, initially planned as a film, has been retooled into a limited biographical series titled Tyson and is expected to release in 2025 or 2026.

[Damaris]

Okay, so they have a month.

[Cam]

So. So Netflix. They have a month. While early reports from May 2025 suggest a late 2025 release for Netflix, more recent news indicates the project has shifted to a limited series format with a 2026 release date mentioned in some posts. Okay, so next year, hopefully.

[Damaris]

I'm actually glad they took some time because. Did you watch the Mike series on Hulu?

[Cam]

Yes.

[Damaris]

Take some time in between those. So they're not like. Because they. They did a great job. Yeah, they did a great job.

[Cam]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

If you did the movie and that series at the same time and both are dope, like, I think it takes away from it.

[Amara]

Speaking of which, y' all sent something to the group chat about Jake Paul and Tank aren't fighting anymore.

[Cam]

Jake Paul versus Tank Davis has been canceled. Jake Paul announced it a few days ago and he had some things to say about. In regards to Javante Davis receiving a lawsuit.

[Damaris]

Something like that. Yeah.

[Cam]

So. Yeah. So he decided it would be best to back out and not have Tank on his platform. And I mean, you know, listen, you gotta understand people protecting their brand and don't want certain things affiliated. If Jake Paul is one of those guys who. He doesn't wanna be a part of that or doesn't want anybody that has any of that type of shit attached to them on his platform and doesn't want to break bread with those people. I mean, salute to Jake for that, man. But we gotta see what happens. I feel like Tank is always in some type of shit with women and domestic violence, but I never hear anything like the cases, they get dismissed, they get thrown out. Yeah, we never hear anything. He obviously has never done any. Has he done jail time behind any of these?

[Damaris]

I don't think so.

[Amara]

I can't remember.

[Cam]

Cause you never know what boxers like until they fight and you don't know what they doing in their personal life.

[Damaris]

I mean, we know Floyd. Floyd sat down for it.

[Cam]

Floyd did, yes. He had to go to.

[Damaris]

I think he did a year.

[Cam]

But I don't know if Tank has ever been because this is not the. Oh, he has served jail time. Okay, 44 days in 2023.

[Damaris]

Okay, what was that exactly for, though? Was it for domestic violence?

[Cam]

In terms of his 90 day house arrest for a 2020 hit and run. So that wasn't okay.

[Damaris]

Nothing to do with domestic violence.

[Cam]

Yes.

[Damaris]

Clear that up.

[Amara]

Well, and he was charged with simple domestic battery when he. With the mother of his daughter, he grabbed her by her neck and pulled her out of her seat during a charity basket that people saw.

[Damaris]

Okay, well then.

[Cam]

Yeah, we saw that then. Yeah, yeah. So I feel like, you know, unfortunately, this is something that follows Tank and he seems to always have to deal with these. These type of things and. Yeah, and. And Jake Paul didn't want to. He didn't want to be a part of it. He didn't want to, you know, platform. Anybody that has that type of shit.

[Damaris]

Well, didn't that video come out before they announced the fight?

[Cam]

Yeah, that video was years ago. That was years ago.

[Damaris]

So now all of a sudden you don't want to.

[Cam]

It's a new lawsuit. That just. That's just.

[Damaris]

I'm not saying Jake didn't make the right call, but I'm. That video existed.

[Cam]

You know how that goes. And I mean, I guess this is more recent. Again, this is Jake Paul's words. This is what he's saying is the reason to cancel the fight. Cause the fight was supposed to be what, next week, the 14th, right? Yeah.

[Damaris]

But even then, like, like the promo that both these guys do for their fights respectfully, has been way crazier than this. I can't believe that fight was supposed to be next week. I like kind of forgot about it.

[Cam]

So, you know, he had his words. They said Javante Davis is an actual walking Human piece of garbage. Working with him is an absolute nightmare. The unprofessionalism, the bizarre request to showing up hours late to shoots, to the numerous arrests and related accusations and lawsuits. If you support this man, you support the most vile sin a man can commit. I didn't want to give this woman abuser a platform to grow his fans and to grow his bank account. My company champions women. I'm so sorry to everyone involved, mostly to the undercard fighters, to my team at MVP and to my team who work so hard prepping this fight. It's scary that devilish men like this can rise to the top of culture and sports included in positions of power hoping people move forward. Looking beyond his fake streetwear pieces swag in search of something deeper to be.

[Damaris]

A fan of though that's though devonte.

[Amara]

Davis has been had plenty of domestic violence like accusations, charges, incidents with his baby mother. This is not new.

[Damaris]

This is not new from what happening Paul said. But to go off what Demaris has said, yeah, there's been plenty of that before that Jake Paul was aware of as well as people that both the Paul brothers have fought in the past have had convictions of it as well. And I'm not taking away from how he feels here or the severity of any case that is going on with Tank or any of the other people that the Paul brothers have fought with the same exact charges. I think a huge part of this decision was that the promotion was ass. I don't know how. Maybe it was because of Tank's unprofessionalism. But I don't think Netflix or the Paul brothers are taking a risk based off their resume with Netflix. If this is an under promoted fight.

[Cam]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no. I'm not jacking that.

[Damaris]

I don't forgot this was even happening.

[Cam]

And you would have remembered as soon as that moment they talked about it and they said that the fight that night you'd have been tuned in like the rest of it Mo.

[Damaris]

But that's because nah, nah, nah, we are, we are over consumers like you and I will be on time like oh shit, I forgot about that and click it. That's not how the rest of the world works. That's not something like this with Netflix and Vegas and everything that surrounds this needs the casual consumer which takes a long time to get to with promotions. This is the most under promoted Jake Paul fight I've ever fucking seen.

[Cam]

Now that's a different now that's a different. Now that's a different statement. You could say that this is the most under promoted. But I promise you this is just like a Drake or Beyonce album. You could drop this shit at midnight and niggas are streaming the fuck out of it. I don't give a fuck what promotion you talking about. Tank Davis and Jake Paul fighting. I don't care if you hear about it. 30 minutes before the fight. In 30 minutes you turn into Netflix.

[Damaris]

I think there's. But from the gambling side, from tickets, from Buzz. I think there's a world that we don't understand because we're not part of it with the boxing promoting world. And I think they probably had a different feeling of the energy around this fight compared to every other fight that they've done.

[Amara]

Oh no.

[Cam]

But he sees a little. He, he, he spoke to that in his statement.

[Damaris]

He said so I'm not. My brand is. Is way too valuable and doesn't have a blemish on it. If you go through what the Paul brothers have done in the last decade, like they have not missed. They're not gonna sacrifice that for Tank Davis that doesn't want to promote a fight.

[Cam]

Yeah. But again he addressed that so that I just think.

[Damaris]

I think it's more that than it is everything he said afterwards. That's all.

[Amara]

Okay. Didn't they fight Mike Tyson?

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Amara]

Yeah. So they don't give a. About any of that. Let's just be honest, like what we doing. You don't give a. About none of that. Domestic violence. Care about women.

[Damaris]

Yeah. So now he's going to fight Nate Diaz. I don't think they've given a date. But obviously Nate will promote that and you know, I think it'll be an interesting fight.

[Cam]

Ain't gonna do with him. And Tank would have did.

[Damaris]

Absolutely not. Nate Diaz is popular, but obviously it's not.

[Cam]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

With Tank.

[Cam]

So like this fight us.

[Damaris]

I'm gonna watch it.

[Cam]

I'm not really.

[Damaris]

You wouldn't watch an ideas.

[Cam]

And I want to see this again. This is their second time fighting, right? Yeah. I don't want to see another part two to that shit.

[Damaris]

I mean, shit outside of everything we just talked about. I am happy this fight was canceled though. Just for the sake of boxing.

[Friend or Guest]

I was really curious to see size difference.

[Cam]

Yeah, I wanted to see. That's the fight. That's the fight I wanted to see. I wanted to see if Tank was really going to go in there and really. Because Jake Paul's not. No, he's not a small guy.

[Damaris]

We broke it when they announced it. We did a full breakdown from their reach to Everything. I'm with y'.

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[Damaris]

I just think Tank being in his prime against a YouTuber, not taking away from Jake Paul. He could whoop a lot of people's asses. He's a great boxer, but he's still YouTuber first. To me, that was kind of, we're now crossing the line into the boxing world. He's fought a lot of people that weren't in their prime. Tank is in his prime. Tank should be fighting people in his prime that are in their prime or his peers within the professional space.

[Cam]

So who does Tank fight now, though?

[Damaris]

I. I was just trying to ignore people.

[Cam]

Stupid Peach is stupid.

[Damaris]

Who does Tank fight now? It's a good question.

[Cam]

Crawford.

[Damaris]

Make the most sense?

[Cam]

That'll be. That'll be one of the biggest fights ever.

[Damaris]

Yeah, it would make the most sense.

[Cam]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

I mean, Jake Paul, who does he go on to fight? Sugar Ray Robinson, Nate Diaz. I'm saying after this part two.

[Cam]

Sugar Ray Robinson. That's hilarious.

[Damaris]

Well, yeah, that Nate Davis. Nate Diaz one. Yeah. That'll be one of those that you'll need to remind me and I'll click it.

[Cam]

Anybody watching it?

[Damaris]

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[Amara]

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[Damaris]

ASAP. Rocky says album Don't Be Dumb is never dropping. The name of the title is Don't Be Dumb. We was dumb.

[Cam]

I didn't even know he had an album called Don't Be Dumb that was supposed to be dropping.

[Damaris]

After he beat the case, he announced the date, which I thought was the greatest promo ever.

[Cam]

Oh, okay. Yes, I do remember that. I mean, why is he never dropping?

[Damaris]

I mean, he's a stay at home husband. Were y' all checking for it?

[Cam]

That's called the circle back. Huh?

[Amara]

Were y' all checking for it?

[Cam]

Yeah, don't be dumb. I mean, if, if, if, if Rocky puts an album out. Yeah, I would listen to it.

[Damaris]

Yeah, I think the last three singles he put out, outside of the videos being amazing, I thought the music was good too, but yeah, I was. I'm not like waiting around like the way for the fall off. Like I'm like, yo, where the is the fall off at? If don't be Dumb never comes out, nothing's gonna change. In my life. But if it did drop.

[Sponsor Voice]

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[Damaris]

It's not.

[Cam]

I'm not. No, no, no, I'm not. I'm not. No. If he puts it out, I'll listen, but I'm not upset if it doesn't come out. Like, I'm not. You know, we have enough music in this, but. Did y' all hear Kodak's album?

[Damaris]

I haven't yet, but I saw in our drama lake, and he's making.

[Cam]

Oh, they spoke about it.

[Damaris]

They had hit the chat today and asked if we listened to it, and I said I hadn't. I hadn't yet. Oh, they said it was amazing.

[Cam]

I mean, he's holding. Listen, man, I. I mean, you know how I feel about Kodak, but. Yeah, man, Kodak might be. He's a lot better than a lot of these dudes, man, like, in his. His peers.

[Damaris]

You think Jake Paul would fight him?

[Cam]

Jake Paul would fight Kodak?

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Cam]

That ain't a fight. No, I'm just saying Kodak coming to the ring, strapped with all kind of shit.

[Damaris]

The morality of it, like, based off what Kodak has in his past with Jake.

[Cam]

See, the white man always trying to remind us of our. You know what I mean? Of our tough times, of the superior.

[Damaris]

Of Jake Paul's morals.

[Cam]

Stop trying to shine light on our. You know what I mean?

[Damaris]

No, Trump pardoned him. I don't know about the case.

[Cam]

He spoke about that on the album. He rapped about that.

[Damaris]

Oh, yeah. Okay.

[Amara]

You think Kodak is better than NBA at rapping?

[Cam]

Hold on. Cause, Baby D, you don't know the history between those two. What you trying to start right now? Because I ain't.

[Amara]

Oh, I. I know. I don't know. I don't know the history. I'm sorry. I genuinely was just asking because when we talk about the younger ones of the younger clique that raps.

[Cam]

Yeah. I think Kodak raps better than NBA youngboy. I think so. I think he raps better. Yes. I've seen the Nle Chopper video, and I wish I could unsee the Nle Chopper video.

[Amara]

Contrary to popular belief. Hear me out. Nle Choppa is a star.

[Damaris]

Star's a.

[Amara]

Okay, so when I say star, I don't mean how successful he's been at things or what. What I mean is Nle Choppa has star power. I don't feel like I see a lot of people with star power. He's very intriguing and, like, I care about Nle Choppa, and I don't listen to his music. Does that make sense?

[Damaris]

Like, that's a lot of rappers now, though. Like, people care more about them than their music, but.

[Amara]

Yeah, but sometimes it'd be for a lot of gimmicky bullshit. I just think him himself is very intriguing. I think he not do gimmicks and shit. Like, when he did that song, like, if I was a bad bitch, I don't wanna fuck me too.

[Damaris]

Like, that's a little gimmicky to me.

[Amara]

But it's not okay.

[Damaris]

He put a band aid on his face and remixed the Nelly song. It was a gimmick.

[Amara]

You can have a gimmick, and people do gimmicks all the time. Like, who was Lil. What was his name? That was with Kanye walking around in a big suit. What was his name? Lil Pump Gimmick. Right? But I don't. You don't really have star quality. People don't really care about you. Are you seeing what I'm saying? Like, somebody can be likable and have star quality and do gimmicky things, and then somebody could just do gimmicky things and people don't care about them once the gimmick stops. I don't know. I just think Nle Choppa has a lot of star power. That's just me.

[Damaris]

I mean, I think the young boy thing was a little gimmicky. I'm not saying his. His whole brand is gimmicks, but he's definitely falls in the gimmick, like, lane at times. But I guess I don't know enough of Emily Chopper's music to care. But, I mean, I know people.

[Cam]

I definitely don't know enough about his music.

[Amara]

Like, maybe you should listen. Maybe every week we should listen to somebody we don't know enough about and come back with a report card.

[Damaris]

I'm down. That could be cool.

[Cam]

I've been working out to that NBA YoungBoy Patreon series.

[Amara]

Oh, you have? Oh, she did send you to the playlist.

[Cam]

How is it he got some on there? Sun is a ice young boy. Yeah, he got some on there, man. He talking some of them. Some of the he said is like, all right, we might need to get send, like, help and support to, like, a part of America that we just not sending help and support to. Like, but, like, no, they.

[Damaris]

They. FEMA did that when Louisiana. In 05.

[Cam]

Yeah, man, we got to talk about the damage that we didn't.

[Damaris]

What Katrina did.

[Cam]

Oh, my God. Like, the way he talking, I'm like.

[Damaris]

No, Millie, I told you. Millie's put me on to him. And I. I listened.

[Cam]

No, he's Good. I like NBA YoungBoy. I like him. I'm. And I'm again, I'm late to the party. I'm just like, really listening to his music like that. But yeah, I don't. I just. Me personally, I, I, I think Kodak. I think kodak is a better. Is a better artist.

[Damaris]

How many records are on on the kodak album? I know he's one of those that. That puts a lot of joints on there. Yeah.

[Cam]

I want to say. Let me see. He's got 20.

[Damaris]

Okay. That's not.

[Cam]

The joint with him and Don to was crazy. The joint with him and pharrell is dope. Him and chance is dope.

[Damaris]

Hour and five minutes. That's not bad.

[Cam]

The joint with him and gunna Endless nights is dope. He got some on there. It's a really good project.

[Damaris]

No, I do. With kodak.

[Cam]

It's a really, really good project as.

[Damaris]

Far as a rapper is actually very underrated.

[Cam]

Shout out to Kodak Black. Just getting started. Available now. You gotta check that out, baby D. You like it?

[Damaris]

Would you. Would you drop an album if you were headlining every festival? Had three kids with Rihanna.

[Cam]

If I had three kids with rihanna, I wouldn't do anything but keep breathing.

[Damaris]

Keep breathing or keep breathing?

[Cam]

Breathing. Both.

[Damaris]

Both, actually.

[Cam]

Both of them.

[Damaris]

Both.

[Cam]

Both of them. What, you're married? Married to what? They're not. Are they married?

[Amara]

I think they might be secret.

[Damaris]

I think they're probably married and we just don't know.

[Cam]

Well, let's just say they're married, have a family. If I'm rocky, I don't. I done been on the COVID of all of the fucking. All of the magazines. I done been at every fucking Runway fashion show. My brand is lit. I made some noise, I did some things, but I'm married to rihanna.

[Damaris]

That was a legend in his own right for sure. He's had an incredible career for sure. He's changed hip hop. There's a lot of asap babies running around here.

[Cam]

Great things. Great things. His print, his stamp on the game is solidified. Now it's time to just be. Breathe and breathe. Breathe and breathe.

[Damaris]

He breathed some of the rap. Now he's breathing.

[Cam]

Breathe and breed. That's it. That's what I'm here for.

[Damaris]

Even if, like, you love music, you.

[Cam]

Gotta multiply this thing. Re re. We have to multiply. We have to make sure that our kids are still here to spend this money.

[Amara]

Re up, you feel me?

[Damaris]

It's gonna take. It's gonna take a couple lifetimes.

[Cam]

Yeah, but. Yeah, but we gonna try to spend it all. We're gonna try to blow this whole fucking bag.

[Damaris]

No, that's. That's not how generational wealth works.

[Cam]

Let's blow it all. Blow it all and get it back. If you're a real one. If you are. Only if you're a real one. Blow it all and get it all.

[Damaris]

Three of their kids, like, no, you don't get a dollar. This. Yeah, that's our retirement money.

[Cam]

Yeah, it's all good.

[Damaris]

We're just gonna. We're gonna buy Barbados.

[Amara]

I like the idea of us having to listen to. Circling back to what I said of us having to listen to a new artist and, like, come back with, like, a report card.

[Cam]

Yeah, you like that?

[Damaris]

Yeah, I like that.

[Amara]

That. Yeah.

[Damaris]

Should we pick top?

[Amara]

We got to come back with three good songs. Our top three songs from them.

[Damaris]

Should we pick each other's artists type thing or. We can do that. Yeah, that could be fun.

[Cam]

I've been listening to Sasha Keeble. Are y' all familiar with Sasha Key?

[Amara]

I've heard the name.

[Cam]

Get up on Sasha Keeble.

[Damaris]

Okay, you said Sasha Kegels.

[Cam]

Sasha Key, not Kegels. Evil K, E, A B, L er.

[Damaris]

I thought she was on some freaky.

[Cam]

Yeah, yeah. Act Right.

[Amara]

All right.

[Damaris]

I've seen this artwork before.

[Amara]

Yeah, I have.

[Damaris]

Oh, yeah? Yeah. She has a joint. The Moving along project is dope with Leon.

[Cam]

Yeah.

[Amara]

Okay, so is that.

[Damaris]

Take your time with black.

[Cam]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

No, I know.

[Cam]

No, definitely is. Yeah. Listen to Act Right.

[Damaris]

I know she would beam, too.

[Amara]

I'm sending Rory. I'm going to give Rory. Who do I want to give Rory? Renee rap.

[Cam]

Who's that? Renee Rap.

[Amara]

Renee Rap.

[Damaris]

Okay, Can I. Can I get a photo? Because that's the most important.

[Cam]

Yeah, that's. You gotta make sure that she looks good.

[Damaris]

She don't rap.

[Amara]

Her last name is just rap. R A, P P. I thought it.

[Damaris]

Was, like, Chance the Rapper, and it was like, Renee.

[Cam]

That's her real last name. R A P B rap. Yeah, that's fire.

[Damaris]

Okay. I usually do, like, eps that look like they could be, like, Gap ads. So.

[Cam]

Yeah, she's got the gas.

[Damaris]

Yeah. I think I'm probably gonna enjoy this.

[Amara]

She's very. She's a pop star, but she can sing her ass off when it comes to R B. She loves R B.

[Cam]

Where's she from? What?

[Amara]

I don't know where Renee's from. We have to look that up. She's super cool, but she Came out and said that she doesn't want to do. She does want to do an R B album, but she wants to do it the right way Because North Carolina, when pop artists enter into the R B lane, sometimes they're super. They give. They. They're given a lot of credit for something that's not their genre. And she's like, I don't want to take a whole bunch of credit and get all these accolades for R and B when there's people who've been out here doing the groundwork for longer. She wants to be respectful.

[Cam]

So she wants to be respectful of R and B. So she's not singing R and B.

[Amara]

She just hasn't made a complete R and B album yet because she doesn't want to. If Renee rap does an R and B album, it's a good chance that it will do extremely well. Right? So in her mind, it's like.

[Cam]

So she doesn't want to do extremely well.

[Amara]

It's not that she doesn't want to do extremely well. It's that she's respectful of people, black people who have been doing R and B their entire lives, who may not get the looks that she gets because she's a white pop star. She's respectful of that. So she says she wants to do it. She just wants to find the right producers to work with, make sure everybody gets paid and compensated, and that everything's fair. She just doesn't. She doesn't want to be a culture vulture is basically what she's saying.

[Cam]

So I don't know how I feel about that, but okay, I respect it. Yeah, I don't think it's that deep.

[Damaris]

That could come across as, I'm not racist, but I got three black friends.

[Amara]

No, I don't think that's not. Maybe it's because I pay attention to her herself. That's not what she means. She really is just trying to.

[Cam]

I'mma check out Renee Rap. What's the project?

[Amara]

She has a couple projects. I'll send you songs. Okay, I'll send you songs. The projects can lean a little pop.

[Damaris]

I don't want you to change your pick, but I feel like I'll probably like this based off what you explained. I would like picks, like a. Any nle chopper. Like, something that I would probably like them all.

[Amara]

I was gonna give n. Okay.

[Cam]

Why would you do that?

[Damaris]

Because I think you're giving me somebody.

[Cam]

That you know I'm gonna like, man. Why?

[Damaris]

That was the point of this exercise. Somebody that you may think you may not like. But you may end up liking.

[Cam]

And no disrespect to Nle. I don't know him, but I just.

[Damaris]

You may end up liking.

[Cam]

I don't want to be in the crib listening in le chopper.

[Amara]

But you. But two years ago, you might have said the same thing about NBA Young Boy.

[Cam]

I definitely said that about NBA Young Boy.

[Amara]

Exactly.

[Damaris]

I said that about Kodak and Youngboy and was completely wrong.

[Cam]

I've been trying to tell you for years. Kodak.

[Damaris]

You put. I tell you, you put me on to Kodak, and I'm a Kodak fan.

[Cam]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

I. I like Young Boy. I think we should do it that way.

[Cam]

Not Somebody album.

[Damaris]

Just. Just text me this, like, in your free time, because, you know, I like it. Why? Why are you so jittery and smiley?

[Amara]

Oh, I don't know. I had coffee earlier.

[Damaris]

Okay. Yeah, I did, too. I had a little shakes earlier. Yeah. That caffeine was making my handshake. Yeah.

[Cam]

You okay?

[Amara]

I'm okay.

[Cam]

Right. Just checking.

[Amara]

Sorry.

[Damaris]

Anyways, for Damaris, I'm going to have you listen to the rapper Mike. All caps M I K E. He's not white.

[Amara]

Oh, thank God. Okay.

[Cam]

I just met homie.

[Damaris]

We were. We were in London with him.

[Amara]

That's so random.

[Cam]

What? I just met him, like, two days ago.

[Damaris]

We were literally sitting at a picnic table together in London.

[Cam]

For real. Okay. So that's what. You know what? That may be why he kind of looked at me like, yo, we met before.

[Damaris]

Yeah, it was me, you, Earl, Al, and him.

[Cam]

Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. Yeah. I literally just met him. Well, obviously he was in London, but just saw him two days ago.

[Damaris]

Yeah. So he put out a project, Showbiz, which is one of my favorite rap albums of this year.

[Josephine]

Year.

[Damaris]

It's not something that I think Damaris would typically click, but I think she may end up liking it.

[Cam]

Okay.

[Damaris]

So I think we should go that route.

[Cam]

Okay.

[Damaris]

Because that. That Renee rap girl, I'm probably just gonna love it. I can tell. I'm probably gonna like that. I want something that I'm gonna be like, nah.

[Cam]

That his name is Michael Jordan. Bonima. I'm just saying we know who to see who the goat is. We see who the goat is. Show me when they start naming kids LeBron. Show me the next LeBron.

[Amara]

Oh, that's gonna happen. Oh, there's been LeBron.

[Cam]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

10 years. Generation is gonna.

[Amara]

Yeah, yeah.

[Damaris]

They're still young.

[Amara]

You'll start hearing about them in about 10 years.

[Cam]

I don't think so. I don't think we're gonna see any LeBron's walking around.

[Amara]

Well, to be fair, Michael is such a common ass name.

[Cam]

Michael Jordan. And that's his middle name.

[Damaris]

There's a famous actor that's.

[Cam]

Yeah, but that's like. That's. That's called like. And 98. He was born. Oh, yeah. You know what Mike was doing in 98? Oh, my God. He was definitely named after Michael Jordan.

[Damaris]

His pops was watching the game in the hospital when.

[Cam]

100%.

[Damaris]

Yeah. What month was it? If it was playoff time, then.

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[Cam]

He was born. If he was. Yo, listen, man, let's not go down that rabbit hole.

[Amara]

But they might have named him before.

[Cam]

All star. All Star 98. Who was the MVP? Mike might have been MVP to All Star year. 98. That's all I'm saying. That's all I'm saying.

[Damaris]

All right, so we have Damaris with. With Mike.

[Cam]

It was Jordan. I told you. I knew it. 98.

[Damaris]

Yeah, we got a great rapper because of it.

[Cam]

Wait, was it Jordan?

[Damaris]

NBA All Star game 98.

[Cam]

Kobe, man. NBA also game. Kobe Bryant MVP. Oh, oh. It's called the Kobe Bryant award now. Okay.

[Damaris]

Michael Jordan 98.

[Amara]

So I'm doing Mike and Sasha Kels Maul has to do Nle Choppa. Rory, you have Renee rap. And then you give Ma. Give Roy one more Maul somebody you want him to check out that you don't think he'll like that.

[Cam]

I don't think he'll like you.

[Amara]

He should like. But you don't know if he would ever listen to them on his own.

[Cam]

All right.

[Damaris]

Wouldn't expect. Okay, give me in the Kodak world some. Something in that vein. We will keep that.

[Cam]

Ask me if you guys have heard the Dave album.

[Damaris]

Davia. I heard the Dave album. Dave is my favorite rapper from the uk and this last project solidified that even more, baby. And it may have checked off another box of my 2025 predictions. But, you know, we'll save that for the end of the year and you guys can order me a bouquet each.

[Cam]

Okay. Got you.

[Damaris]

That felt like that was like a. Okay. Got you in like a dismissive way, like you weren't going to do that.

[Amara]

That.

[Cam]

I mean, we got to check the board. I don't know what you're talking about right now.

[Damaris]

I'm Mike in 98.

[Amara]

Okay, you got voicemails.

[Cam]

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[Amara]

You have to stop.

[Josephine]

Hi, guys, this is Josephine from AM so also, I really appreciate the podcast. I feel like you should. Guys should add Amsterdam on your tour date.

[Cam]

Definitely appreciate that, Josephine. I'm with you on that.

[Josephine]

I'll bring a few of my homies that also listen to you.

[Damaris]

So, homies.

[Josephine]

You'Re welcome. More than welcome.

[Cam]

Thank you, Josephine.

[Josephine]

So this is kind of more towards the mares. I would like to hear the view of the guys as well. But, you know, I feel like the Marist probably has some experience in this as well. So. I've been single for three years. I did some healing after the relationship, which was needed, and now I'm putting myself out there again since, I think, a year, which is good. But I just cannot get over the fact that there's so many losers in the world, and everybody just makes me cringe so much, and I don't know what to do about it. It's just. It's just crazy. I've been on many dates, and I just see the flaws all the time, and I'm just like, oh, just make me icky. So I don't know what to do about it. I would like to know if you have tip for me or. It's just, why are there so many losers out here?

[Cam]

I just want to find a fine.

[Josephine]

Man who's, like, cool and also cringy. Help me. Okay. Thank you.

[Damaris]

I think this is a great question for Damaris, because she was somebody that spun the block forever and now is in a happy relationship. Relationship with a new person. Teach us how you get back out there when it's icky out there.

[Amara]

I just feel like outside of my relationship, I've always just felt like this. I feel like everything happens when it's supposed to. That's with jobs, that's with relationships, that's with friends, that's with life. If something isn't coming to you, it's just not either. You aren't mentally ready for it. It's not the time in your life for it. And higher powers want you to focus on something else.

[Damaris]

That's the worst advice to give someone when they're like, bro, can't find a job. Like, yo, just the time will come. Like, I need this shit now.

[Cam]

Yeah, the higher powers.

[Amara]

But you. You saying, I need it now.

[Damaris]

I agree with you. I mean, it's always a bad advice to someone that's going through something.

[Amara]

But it's not bad advice because it's the truth. It's just not what you want to hear. Nobody ever wants to hear good advice. They want to hear a magical solution to Their problem.

[Damaris]

Well, maybe a different approach that you took that made the timing right when you met the person you're with now.

[Amara]

I don't want to talk about that.

[Damaris]

Okay. Fair enough. Yeah. I think getting back out there, unfortunately, is a volume game. I think you have to go out and date and see the icks and just see what's out there. If you go on two dates and it's like, oh, that's gross. You're not going to really solve anything unless you keep getting back out there.

[Amara]

Also, don't the ick. Sometimes I feel like sometimes we overthink icks. Like sometimes we're just speak to it.

[Damaris]

Baby D. You gotta have a little.

[Amara]

Bit more patience for some things.

[Cam]

A little bit more patience.

[Amara]

Now, if something really makes you feel uncomfortable inside, nobody has a better fourth.

[Cam]

Quarter than Baby Dudes 98.

[Damaris]

Jordan, go ahead.

[Cam]

Baby D. I'm sorry.

[Amara]

There's gonna be some things that make you feel. If something makes you feel uncomfortable inside, get the out of there. Right. Like, listen to. Listen to your body and your intuition telling you things. But sometimes people are just doing things that you aren't used to. Or they might live a different lifestyle than you're used to, or they might have a different lingo that you're not used to. If you really, really want to find love, I'm never saying settle, but just be a little bit more open. Be strict with your boundaries. But when it comes to their personality, be a little bit more open and willing to try new things. Same thing with food, with jobs, with anything. Like, you can't keep doing or dating. The same thing that you always have because that obviously hasn't worked out for you.

[Cam]

Right.

[Amara]

That mixed with. Also sometime the timing is just not right. You got to be patient.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Amara]

Which sucks. Nobody wants to hear that. But that's the truth.

[Damaris]

Sometimes you have the wrong X. You should have some X with the last guy that you think you like. Why do you think the word settle gets such a negative connotation? Like, why. Why do you think that word will settle?

[Amara]

They usually aren't happy.

[Damaris]

But is that the. Is that the actual definition of that word? Or have we made it that. That, like, sometimes you have to settle on certain things to be in a happy relationship. Like, you're not going. You're not going to love everything about somebody.

[Amara]

You have to settle on certain things that compromising. Settling and compromising are two totally different things.

[Cam]

Yeah. Settling is more like, all right, well, I guess this is it.

[Amara]

Yeah. This is all. This is weird.

[Cam]

Like, imagine you You. You with your girl, and you come home and she like, well, guess this is it. What? Like, yo get to get. We don't have to do this. Like, we can go our separate ways.

[Amara]

Yeah.

[Cam]

If that's the energy. If it's like, oh, well, this is. You know.

[Damaris]

But can you settle for something you love? Like, I'll settle for this. Cause I love this. And what. This is over. Going back outside and trying to find something that's unproven.

[Cam]

Not settle. I choose this.

[Damaris]

Okay.

[Cam]

Settle is like, if there's something else that comes along that I feel like is better than this, I'm out. That's the energy that settling has. Like.

[Amara]

Yeah.

[Cam]

And also, I'll take this for now. That.

[Amara]

That isn't your. Like, yeah. Like, you wouldn't prefer.

[Cam]

This is not what I would usually be doing.

[Amara]

This isn't what you.

[Cam]

But as soon as something that comes along that you deem to be what you think is your ideal situation, person, whatever, you're out of there. Like, you're out of that situation that you were currently in. And it happens.

[Damaris]

I mean, settle. And again, this is just the Western dictionary result.

[Cam]

It never hit y', all, like, months after you stop dating somebody that they lied to you in your face, they told you some shit. Like, you don't never. That shit don't ever just hit you randomly? No, for sure, you being talking, you'd be like, that bitch was lying with some.

[Damaris]

That you never even thought was a lie. Like, the way deja vu hits you sometimes things. It's something in your brain, like. Like, wait, hold on. I didn't make no. Yeah, you weren't even thinking about it.

[Cam]

Yo, that didn't even make sense. Where was I at in life where that worked? Like, you know what she told me.

[Damaris]

Because you had the. The blinders.

[Amara]

I feel like that might be a man thing.

[Cam]

I don't.

[Amara]

Because women, I'll be thinking you lying from the jump. So I don't. I never have that come to Jesus moment. Because I was thinking that from the very beginning.

[Cam]

Yo, it'd be hitting you at the most. Most random. I think I was on, like, ordering some on prime or something like that. Is that the checkout? And I was like, well, hold up. She told me what.

[Damaris]

What do you think in your order list sparked it?

[Cam]

I have no idea. But it just hit me, and I was just like. I had to laugh. Like, that's crazy that that worked on me. Like, but, you know. Yeah.

[Damaris]

Resolve or reach an agreement about an argument or problem. I guess not there A place to stay. Hey, sometimes you gotta settle. Hey. Some call it squatting. Some call it settling.

[Cam]

Sometimes you gotta settle. Like, listen, man, some snaps ain't hitting. He treat me. All right. I'm just gonna settle here.

[Damaris]

So in that. In that way, settle is a positive thing.

[Cam]

Yeah, it can be.

[Damaris]

Settle for shelter again.

[Cam]

That's. I choose shelter over the park bench at night. I choose this man's warm home instead of the subway.

[Damaris]

Yeah. And then the third definition, which, ironically, for this month, makes a lot of sense. Colonize.

[Cam]

Now we're getting somewhere.

[Damaris]

You see, we were the settlers.

[Cam]

Yeah, that's it. That's all we gotta.

[Amara]

Just.

[Cam]

That first word is very important.

[Damaris]

The conquerors. Yeah. Rapist. Slave owner. No, we came here and settled.

[Cam]

Brought the ships to the dock and settled. Settled down. Everybody settled down.

[Damaris]

Everyone settled down. Take this blanket.

[Cam]

Yeah. Settle in.

[Damaris]

And they have something on it. It.

[Cam]

Yeah, yeah. That's all. That's all you got to do. Hopefully. Josephine, we helped you with that. I don't think we did, but, baby.

[Damaris]

D. G. No, Get. Get back out there. I do think volume game. Even if you've had some bad dates, that doesn't mean the next person you meet is going to be as bad. You. You have to get back out there, even if it sucks. Like, sit through a Caesar salad and then just don't speak to them.

[Cam]

Right.

[Amara]

Just.

[Damaris]

Just.

[Amara]

No. Go out with their friends. Have fun. Find something that's a hobby and meet. Be open to meeting people in the space that they're at. If something falls in your lap, something falls in your lap. You can date, but, like. Like, don't. Don't. The. The volume game doesn't always.

[Damaris]

I'm not, like, saying serial date. Like, swipe right and go on a date every night. I'm saying be open after having bad dates to still dating. What I'm saying. That's all I'm saying. I'm not saying date every night. Do we have another one or. All right. Well, this was fun.

[Cam]

Yes, this was great.

[Damaris]

Yeah, this was a. A great post election day.

[Amara]

We in the Patreon.

[Cam]

Great post election day.

[Amara]

Mal. Did. I mean. Rory, did you watch our all. Did you watch our vlog?

[Cam]

No, but I'm hearing good things about it.

[Damaris]

I haven't watched it yet. No, I do want to watch it.

[Amara]

Yo, whenever I work hard on some, I need everybody in the office to watch it because I edited it.

[Damaris]

No, I'm really. It's on my. To do. To watch.

[Amara]

So now everybody. I'll watch it.

[Cam]

Oh, you edited It. Yeah, I'm not watching that. It's gonna be probably mad jump cuts. That's off.

[Damaris]

No, the first one she did, we were in Vegas was great.

[Cam]

Like, you got closed captions on the closed captions. No, I'll just play. I'm. Check it out, though, because I'm hearing good things. People seem to like it. And somebody was telling me, yo, you need to do that more. That. Shut up.

[Damaris]

No, it's like, how dare the listeners tell you what they're good feedback.

[Cam]

No, I respect that. Yeah, I'm gonna watch it, though. We have fun, though. We gotta do one now.

[Damaris]

I. You and I can do one. I want. We gotta fly on the wall for just you and Peach for a vlog. Oh, like, maybe that's not gonna just shoot it.

[Cam]

Like, I'm not gonna make the airwaves. Me and Pee. You don't want me and Pee's to go somewhere and just kick it over a beer. No, like, you let me and Peezy go kick it over Bears. It's not gonna make the.

[Damaris]

It's not 50 here.

[Cam]

It's not gonna leave the editing floor.

[Amara]

It's not gonna leave while I haven't lunch.

[Damaris]

Man, he doesn't even like Trump.

[Cam]

Let's fucking. There we go. You gotta sit down and talk when you don't like somebody. Sit right here and let's figure out why we don't like you.

[Amara]

They did some cancelable shit in our one vlog. I thought about cutting it out. I'm like, I can't.

[Cam]

Me and Peach.

[Friend or Guest]

What we.

[Cam]

I'm going to come.

[Damaris]

Wait, that's canceling them?

[Amara]

Because they were doing. They were. I said they. Peach asked me would I rather be blind or deaf. And I was like, deaf. I. I need to see. And then I said, oh, but damn if I'm deaf. You can't talk me through it. So that then.

[Damaris]

Oh, I get. Oh, I get the joke now, mother. I get the joke now.

[Cam]

All right, I'm sorry, Baby D. You're offending Josh. I'm sorry.

[Damaris]

You're offending Josh.

[Cam]

You're offended. Josh, stop it.

[Damaris]

Josh, stop it right now.

[Cam]

He's teething over there.

[Amara]

Teething.

[Cam]

Seething, not teething. What is the teething? Seething, seething. Why did I say teething? What's teething? Oh, baby, teething. Josh is teething.

[Damaris]

Yo, I got some frozen in the freezer for you for. From Amara of the.

[Cam]

The chew toys. You know, the toys with the little bumps. The bumps on it. Cuz. Of the gums. The gums.

[Amara]

Itch.

[Cam]

So you got to get.

[Amara]

Oh my God, I can't.

[Damaris]

Oh, Democrats are teething.

[Cam]

Be safe. Be blessed. I'm that he's your gender. My, my.

[Damaris]

I'm not gender. I'm just a gender.

[Cam]

I said gender or gender. Oh, well, he is gender. He.

[Damaris]

We don't know his gender.

[Cam]

We don't know Josh's gender.

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