Episode 424 | Pearl Necklace

Summary

New Rory & MAL - Episode 424: "Pearl Necklace"

Date: November 18, 2025

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Episode Overview

In this episode, Rory, Mal, and Damaris bring their signature mix of stories, music takes, and irreverent humor. The trio discuss highlights from a recent private listener mixer, review new music from Wale and Summer Walker, dive into the dynamics of approaching in dating, react to viral social media debates, and offer their unique perspectives on everything from sneaker comfort to podcast boxing matches.

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Listener Mixer Recap

[03:37–08:14]

• The team recaps a private mixer they hosted at the office with Patreon and Discord supporters.
• Mal and Rory stayed late, closing the night out around 5 AM, while other hosts left earlier.
• Shout outs to listeners Dory, Nene, Kiara (praised for going to the gym hungover), and event organizer Dory who flew in from Atlanta.
• Damaris: “Kiara went to the gym the next day. That bitch better than me.” [05:26]
• Hosts joked about cheekless nights and no romantic outcomes, underscoring the platonic, positive energy.

Office Party Antics

[08:14–14:00]

• Rory recalls a moment at the mixer where he joked candidly with a listener about her “non-practicing monogamy”:
  • Damaris: “This man looked this girl dead on her face and said, ‘Oh, so you hoe?’”
  • Rory: “I’m not literally saying I think she’s a hoe…her situation came off a little hoeish, that’s all.” [07:42–08:08]
• The group discusses “ethical non-monogamy,” with Damaris sharing prior experience and explaining the concept:
  • “Ethical means that you’re honest with all parties about not being monogamous. Some people are non-monogamous and ain’t ethical at all.” [08:53]

Dental Adventures & Physical Glow-Ups

[09:26–13:40]

• Mal talks about dental procedures, having his teeth ground down for new veneers, and the pain/numbness that lasted longer than expected.
• Damaris considers getting dental work at the same place (Glendale Dentistry in Queens), and teases Rory for “an underbite,” to which he reacts:
  • Rory: “If I had an underbite, I would have been at Glendale Dentistry years ago to fix that shit. You got me twisted.” [12:39]
• Rory boasts of his hair braided by Camilla, the only person he trusts with his hair.

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NEW MUSIC REVIEWS

Wale – Everything Is a Lot

[14:00–18:07]

• High praise for Wale's new album:
  • Mall: “This project…is right on par with everything else Wale has ever put out.”
  • Both hosts agree Wale has a top-tier discography and unmatched intro tracks.
  • Rory mentions only a minor critique with the track “Conundrum”—wishing it had a second verse.
• Discussion on Wale’s attention to detail, versatility (particularly with Afrobeats), and status as an underrated artist.
  • Mall: “It is kind of crazy to me that Wale is still getting better at rapping at this point in his career.” [14:36]

Summer Walker – Finally Over It

[21:30–27:58]

• Positive reviews for Summer’s third entry in the "Over It" trilogy, though Damaris notes it’s her “third favorite” among Summer’s projects.
• In-depth breakdown of standout tracks:
  • “Go Girl” (mixed fan reception online but praised by hosts)
  • “Situationships,” “Give Me a Reason,” “1-800-Heartbreak” featuring Anderson .Paak: “That might be one of my favorite verses of the year…Anderson just got off.” [23:59]
  • “Robbed U” (sampling 50 Cent) discussed for its narrative about vulnerability in relationships.
• Debate about whether the album’s upbeat, less vulnerable content is fitting for the "Over It" trilogy closure.

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Sneaker & Style Talk

[19:15–21:27]

• Quick detour into sneaker style and comfort, mainly around Air Max 95s and New Balance 990s.
  • Mall and Rory reminisce about sneaker culture in Baltimore/PG County, and how New Balances became a staple.
  • Discussion of most comfortable shoes ever owned (Y3s and orthopedic New Balances get honorable mention).

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Social Media Virality & AI Content

[61:59–64:31]

• The hosts call out the rise in fake/skit content, especially couple "drama" scenarios on Facebook and the prevalence of AI-generated videos.
  • Damaris notes she found an AI-generated animation of her moving in a photo—creepy and unsolicited.
• Conversation on how baby boomers are now more vulnerable to misinformation than kids.
  • Rory: “It was so easy to manipulate kids because they didn’t know any better. Now it’s so easy to manipulate, like, baby boomers…the roles have completely reversed.” [63:49]

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Topical Hot Takes

On Pusha T’s Diaper Comment

[51:21–55:17]

• Internet debated Pusha T's Instagram caption thanking his wife for never teaching him how to change diapers or cook.
  • Rory: “Pusha T know how to change a diaper. This is just shit talking. He definitely knows how to do that.” [53:30]
  • Team agrees: their dynamic seems consensual and ideal for them; internet outrage is misplaced.

Nannies and Child Care

[57:00–60:32]

• Damaris advocates for help (nannies) as beneficial even for stay-at-home parents, explaining that with multiple kids, assistance improves quality of time and parenting.
• Rory and Mal discuss the demanding nature of childcare and their admiration for daycare workers.

Visiting Grave Sites

[65:05–68:06]

• On the viral skit of a man catching his fiancée at her deceased ex’s grave: hosts agree the clip was obviously staged.
• Leads to thoughtful discussion on funerals and grief processes:
  • Rory and Mall reflect on not wanting to see loved ones in open casket viewings.
  • Mall: “I want to remember them the way I remember them—not the last flash I have is…just a lifeless body.” [66:49]

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Rap Personalities, Petty Matchups, & Versus Debates

[41:35–50:53]

• Discussed photo of Cam’ron, Mase, and Max B sitting together; speculated on the possibility of partnerships—whether this indicates business moves or petty Harlem optics relating to Jim Jones (but hope it’s about positive business).
• Tony Yayo’s challenge to Memphis Bleek for a Verzuz:
  • Mall and Rory break down their respective catalogs; both have enough hits/features to make it a close battle, pushing back on the idea that Bleek would get "washed."

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Fights, Boxers, & Celebrity Matches

[71:22–75:33]

• Covers the prevalence of influencer/celebrity boxing (Jake Paul vs. Anthony Joshua), speculating on the future decline of interest and how streaming/celebrity fights are being promoted for spectacle.
  • Rory: “Not unless you see Terence Crawford vs. Jake Paul…I will be tuning in.” [74:54]
• Speculates about the future of “podcast boxing” if Saudi money enters the game.

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Voicemail Segment

[88:04–88:14, 88:12–98:05]

• Caller debate: Is it OK for women to approach men?
  • Mall & Rory: Absolutely, and honestly, men are often oblivious to being flirted with—women should signal more directly.
  • Damaris shares her experience: she often has to shoot her shot because men are intimidated by her strong personality.
    • “I learned…men were intimidated by me…” [91:47]
• Discussion on male and female egos; women can take rejection harder because they’re not used to it.
• The trio laughs about scenarios where someone gets “set up and robbed” after casual hookups.
  • [95:07] Damaris (referencing the episode title): “You can steal that pearl necklace right off your neck after I give her one like that.”
• Lighthearted talk of rejection, dating, and relationship dynamics; Damaris is candid about being “too much” for a lot of men.

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Club Etiquette & Women’s Social Circles

[108:31–109:40]

• Hosts wind down with a debate over "club etiquette" and whether women’s club friends are genuine.
  • Mall: “Women don’t be having friends.”
  • Damaris: “I have close friends that I wouldn’t take to the club because they don’t know club etiquette.”

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Mall on the Wale album: “Wale is one of the few rappers that can experiment with different sounds from different regions of the world throughout the album. And it doesn’t feel forced.” [17:25]
• Damaris on vulnerability in Summer Walker albums: “I think I prefer the production on one a little bit more and I prefer the vulnerability on another one a little bit more.” [25:47]
• Rory on Internet rage: “People just be looking for anything to be upset about.” [55:51]
• Rory on being approached: “Nothing is better than when you flirting with a girl and your shit is working. When your material is hitting.” [93:07]

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Episode Highlights by Timestamp

• Listener mixer recap: [03:37–06:50]
• “Ethical non-monogamy” banter: [07:42–08:53]
• Wale album review: [14:00–17:25]
• Summer Walker album review: [21:30–27:58]
• Pusha T “super mom” post analysis: [51:21–55:17]
• Sneaker convo: [19:15–21:27]
• Fake skits/AI: COVID-era content: [61:59–64:31]
• Max B x Cam’ron x Mase optics: [41:35–44:27]
• Versuz (Yayo vs Bleek): [47:16–50:53]
• Voicemail segment (women approaching men): [88:04–98:05]

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Final Thoughts

This episode sees New Rory & MAL in their comfort zone: mixing event stories, music nerd debates, cultural hot takes, and casual vulnerability, always with a sharp comedic edge. The pace is brisk, the banter unfiltered, and the chemistry as vibrant as ever—making for an episode packed with laughs, debates, and reveals both personal and absurd.

No matter where you’re tuning in, if you missed this episode, you missed the full spectrum: music culture, club rules, dental work sagas, and relationship philosophies—topped off with what might be the best defense ever of getting “robbed” for a pearl necklace.

Transcript

[Damaris]

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[Rory]

Social casino void where prohibited. Visit spinquest.com for more details. The volume. No worrying. Nah, nah, we not. We rolling. Yo, somebody got the clock. Baby D, she over there smiling and.

[Mall]

She been giggling to herself. Really?

[Rory]

Text messages. Start the clock. You at work. All right, clock in. You know how you punch the clock. Punch the goddamn clock. Baby D, I'm here. All right. How you feeling? How's everybody feeling? Listen, thank you to everybody that came to the mixer on Friday.

[Mall]

Oh, yeah, we're gonna get into that.

[Rory]

Salute to everybody. What' to see people that, you know, support the show. Came out, had a good time, you know what I mean? Good to see the faces and had the conversations. Shout out to my man P. Me and peace. Shut the spot down.

[Mall]

Oh, I have. I have questions.

[Rory]

I don't know where you and Baby D went. Y' all left. It was like 11:30 and I ain't see y' all after that.

[Mall]

I have questions.

[Rory]

Me and PJ. What time PE5. Who was counting?

[Mall]

5Am we'll get to that. But again, shout out to everyone that came out. For those that don't know, some of our listeners on Discord and Patreon came through to. To the office to kick it. You know, we shot a little private podcast just for. Just for us, though, like, type of thing. And it was fun.

[Rory]

Conversation was. Conversation was interesting to say.

[Mall]

It was great.

[Rory]

Very interesting. I didn't realize we had some people following us that have.

[Mall]

They have some lives.

[Rory]

So many issues at home and things going on in their lives. But it was good to see everybody.

[Mall]

Yeah, it was cool to kick it with some of the listeners.

[Rory]

Shout out to Dory.

[Mall]

Dory was out there.

[Rory]

New Dorian Mall. That's gonna get some people mad. But it is what it is. You know what I'm saying? New Dory Mall coming soon. Yeah.

[Mall]

Yeah. Dory helped. Organized everything. She flew from Atlanta, which I thought was, was amazing.

[Rory]

Yeah. Shout out to Nene. Shout out to Kiara. Kiara, I'm gonna kick your ass next time I see you. But we'll talk about that another time.

[Mall]

Let her sober up for.

[Rory]

No, no. Yeah, Kiara, hopefully you're sober today.

[Damaris]

Kiara went to the gym the next day. That bitch better than me.

[Rory]

Awesome.

[Mall]

Oh, she got the Mickey, man.

[Rory]

Hey, Kiara. I take back everything I said. Salute to you, Warrior.

[Sponsor Voice]

Warrior.

[Rory]

Cause you was ripped when you left here. Yeah. So the fact that you got up and made it to the gym the next day, I got to salute you. You got a still stomach.

[Mall]

Yeah. And I, you know, I gave him, I gave him a little treat. I was on the wheels of steel for a little bit.

[Damaris]

Was that a treat?

[Rory]

Yeah, I think that's when everybody started leaving.

[Mall]

No, y' all stay till 5:00am Now. I left around, yeah. 11, 11:30. This is the second time you and Page have shut down the office party.

[Rory]

Shut it down.

[Mall]

5:00Am shut it down. Me and Peach, you are the last person I would ever think would stay somewhere till 5am and like all the listeners.

[Rory]

Well, this is like, well this is like being at, this is the office, like being at the crib. So.

[Mall]

Yeah, this is not, I mean, I've slept here before, so yeah, I guess I've shut it down.

[Rory]

You, you shut it down and woke it back up like. Yeah, so yeah, no, we was just in here talking, laughing, and then, you know, some of the, some of the people stayed, they stayed with us too. They probably left around 4:30. Then me and Peach cleaned up a little bit and, and went home. But it was cool though.

[Mall]

What time did you get home?

[Rory]

6.

[Mall]

I just feel like anytime you got to stay out till 5, it should be to like get some cheeks.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mall]

I mean, cheekless at 6:15 something coming up.

[Rory]

You know, I would have put Cheekless in Cheekless in Westchester.

[Mall]

Sounds like a romcom.

[Rory]

Yeah, I was cheekless, but it's okay. Sometimes you got to do that when you, you know what I'm saying? Just considered, you know, working and kicking it with people that support you, so.

[Mall]

But you guys have some stamina. I, I, I was exhausted.

[Rory]

I mean, it was, it was, you know, it was a cool vibe, man. Chilling.

[Mall]

And did, did the conversation get wilder? Cuz at 11pm it was nuts.

[Rory]

Nah, it didn't get wilder. It was just like literally kicking it with people that, you know, support you and know so much about you. And I was sitting there kicking it with them, just trying to get to know them a little more, and looked up and was like, oh, shit, it's like 4 in the morning. So, yeah, Tom, you start winding down. And Eden was here. Shout out to Eden. Eden had to pack up the equipment, had to get his, you know, his immigration papers together, things like that. And, you know, had a good time.

[Mall]

Me and Damaris were. Were joking before you got here. You were pretty direct with our listeners. When we were having that, our panel pod, you was giving it up. Crazy.

[Sponsor Voice]

Now.

[Damaris]

I was saying, man, looked this girl dead on her face and said, oh, so you hoe?

[Mall]

I was like, whoa.

[Damaris]

I said.

[Rory]

But see, why it's different is because she knows me, she knows my personality, she knows that I'm not literally saying I think she's a hoe. I'm just saying her situation, her relationship, her circumstances came off a little hoeish, that's all. But I'm not really calling her a hoe. Like, I wouldn't do that to a woman that has no idea who I am, doesn't know my personality. Like, you know, I mean, the fact that she's a supporter of the show, she knows I'm just talking shit.

[Mall]

Well, we preferred, what was it? Non practicing monogamy.

[Damaris]

That's ethical. Non monogamy.

[Rory]

Ethical. I didn't even hear Ethical Friday. This is the first time they put ethical.

[Mall]

That's called hoe and. Right. That's right. Way to hoe.

[Rory]

Ethical monogamy.

[Damaris]

Ethical Non monogamy.

[Rory]

Ethical non monogamy.

[Damaris]

Which means we.

[Rory]

So you subscribe to that lifestyle, baby D. Not anymore. But wait, hold on. Breaking news, Rory. Peace with the breaking news theme right here. When did you ever like you?

[Damaris]

We've had that conversation before that I was in a relationship with somebody and was dating a girl. That's ethical. Non monogamy. You know that I'm. That I'm stepping out elsewhere.

[Rory]

I know. I do remember that, but I don't know if we gave it.

[Damaris]

Ethical means that you're honest about not being monogamous.

[Rory]

That's what ethical means.

[Damaris]

Yeah, you're being honest with all parties about not being monogamous. Some people are non monogamous and don't and ain't ethical at all.

[Mall]

If you get caught cheating, I feel like you can just say, no, I didn't cheat. I was practicing non monogamy ethically.

[Damaris]

No, that's not ethical. Because you. Because you lie.

[Mall]

No ethics. No ethics, but it's not cheating. It's practicing non monogamy. That's all it is. Why are you looking at. Well, we are back. We were sponsored.

[Rory]

All right, Sponsored.

[Mall]

Guys, look, I have my temps in. If I have a lisp today, if I start drooling out of the side of my mouth, I thought. I thought the numbness.

[Rory]

I thought she was on perks.

[Mall]

I thought the numbness would come out, like, because they put. It's not Novocaine anymore. What is it that they numb your mouth with at the dentist?

[Rory]

It's some Novocaine. Is. It was like, the gel and just rubbed it on your gums?

[Mall]

No, it was a needle, like, shot into my.

[Rory]

Oh, yeah, that's some Novocaine in it.

[Mall]

So they said it would only last an hour. I'm going on about hour five, and I can't say my S's.

[Rory]

Oh, you got it done this morning. Okay.

[Mall]

Yeah. And my Paul's jaw is killing me. Right.

[Rory]

I'm about to say I see a little swelling in your face.

[Mall]

Yeah. But.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Mall]

Shout out to everybody at Glendale Dentistry in. In Queens. Oh, it. It's a lot. But they were very kind and gentle with everything. But, yes. They saw your teeth down.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mall]

Like, it's crazy.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mall]

It's nuts.

[Rory]

But the smile, the finished product is gonna be amazing.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Rory]

And you'll have more confidence. You'll be more secure as a man. You know? You know, you'll be. You'll start smiling more. You'll start going outside for walks more. You become more active in your daughter's life. You know, things like that. Just by having. Just about having a beautiful smile, these are the things they tell you. Like, these. I've seen the commercials. They tell you how much it's gonna improve your life.

[Mall]

Yeah. I got invited to my daughter's second birthday, but I was like, nah, you see my teeth? I can't.

[Rory]

I can't show you.

[Mall]

I can't embarrass my daughter.

[Rory]

Not with these teeth. I had to have the Hollywood smile. Shout out to the Glendale dentistry for giving my guy his Hollywood smile. And now he can have a happy home.

[Mall]

Yeah. And we were going through because they have, like, different shades. They have the one that's, like, more natural looking white, and then they just have the straight up, like, white office wall type shit. And now I see where a lot of y' all be up with veneers.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mall]

I didn't know some of y' all even had the option. I thought, like, all right, you just went to a shitty doctor.

[Rory]

It's the shade.

[Mall]

Yeah, the shade is crazy.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mall]

Like, those teeth are so white that, like, I was like, all right. How can I get something whiter than my own face? Like, let's go with the more natural tooth.

[Damaris]

But you say. What's their name again?

[Mall]

Glendale Dentistry. Okay, yeah, Queens, they're great.

[Rory]

But hold on, hold on, hold on. Why are you asking?

[Damaris]

What? Because I need some work done on my teeth. I need some work done on my teeth. I need a root canal and I need a. I need my teeth whitened.

[Mall]

I'll bring you over there, all right? I'll introduce you.

[Rory]

Okay.

[Damaris]

Yeah, put me on. I make content, too. Like, you just shout them out. I make content.

[Mall]

Tell them Large Marge sent you. I got you.

[Damaris]

Well, you don't want to get nothing.

[Mall]

They were on Dr. Oz. You guys can make content together.

[Damaris]

You cool?

[Rory]

I don't think I need veneers.

[Damaris]

You don't. You got a little bit of an underbite, but I ain't fine.

[Rory]

I have a under. No, I have an overbite.

[Damaris]

Oh, okay.

[Rory]

Underbite.

[Sponsor Voice]

I knew the bite.

[Damaris]

It was. Something was biting.

[Rory]

You said, I got. You think I got bite. Something was biting my mouth. Look like a cash register that's open. Why is she trying to play me right now? Like, that's. You look at my mouth and think that my mouth look like an open cash drawer.

[Mall]

He push his nose.

[Rory]

You mean I got an underbite? I ain't got no fucking underbite. Nigga, who the fuck you talking about?

[Mall]

That's hilarious.

[Rory]

She said I got an underbite. That's hilarious. I don't have no fucking underbite. I was joking.

[Damaris]

I was joking.

[Mall]

Open cash register.

[Damaris]

It's funny.

[Rory]

Yeah. She said, yo, you got an underbite? No, the fuck I don't. If I had an underbite, I would have been at Glendale Dentistry years ago to fix that shit. You got me twisted a underbite? Nah, man, not me.

[Mall]

Well, I mean, J, he can't come at both of us. Cause it looks like he got few changes happened with him this weekend.

[Rory]

Me?

[Mall]

Yeah, man, come on.

[Rory]

I just got my hair braided.

[Mall]

Yeah, show the people.

[Rory]

No, I'm not doing it. I couldn't put my hats on. I couldn't put a scully on. I couldn't put nothing on my head. I was like, I gotta either. I'm gonna cut all my hair off. I didn't want to do that. Cause it's, you know, it's cold. So you see some hair on my head?

[Mall]

Okay, dude, do you want to shout them out? Glendale Hair Braiding.

[Rory]

Shout out to Glendale Hair Braiders now. Shout out to my girl Camilla, man. She always. She's the girl. Only girl that ever has braided my hair.

[Mall]

If they go to her and use code.

[Rory]

Rory Mall or use code. Yeah, use code Roy. Ma. You'll get 10 off your next hair appointment. She's dope, though. That's my.

[Mall]

Don't say that until somebody does it. She's like, what are you talking about?

[Rory]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't want to say that, but shout out to Camila, though.

[Mall]

But, yeah, hopefully this. This numbness goes down, so. Because I have a full lisp.

[Rory]

Well, it's good that, you know, you can't talk much because you've already talked yourself into a bit of a funk over the last few days, so you need to shut up for a few days anyway. So there you go, Glendale. Thank you for shutting him up for a couple days.

[Mall]

Did the Lord's work.

[Rory]

Yeah. Thank you, Glendale Dentistry.

[Mall]

Thank you. Over the weekend, though, we did get a lot of good music.

[Rory]

We did.

[Mall]

Where do we want to start? Want to start with our guy.

[Rory]

Hey, Florent. Hey. Shout out to Wale. Everything Is Too Much. That's the name of it, right? You know, I'm terrible with titles. Everything is.

[Mall]

Everything is a lot. Everything is a lot.

[Rory]

Everything is a lot. Shout out to Wale. Everything is a lot. Incredible album, Wale. You did what the fuck you had to do. Too many Fredos and not enough Boats.

[Mall]

No, he went crazy.

[Rory]

Too many Freightos and not enough boats. What he's saying, Rory, is there are too many liabilities and not enough assets walking around. Yes, that's what he's. That's what he was saying. I'll put it in layman's terms for you. Too many liabilities, not enough assets.

[Mall]

It is kind of crazy to me that Wale is still getting better at rapping at this point in his career.

[Rory]

But, I mean.

[Mall]

Cause he's rapping. Rapping.

[Rory]

We talked about Wale. Wale don't have. Wale is one of the artists that is very. He pays attention to detail. He's very. You know, everything has to be a certain way, certain aesthetic. Like he understands what it is to be an artist on a full scale for whatever reason. People don't like Wale. And, you know, we talk about. All the time people say Wale is corny. Whatever. Dumbass mobs usually.

[Mall]

Cornballs usually say that.

[Rory]

That's a fact. But one thing nobody can stand in front of me and say is that Wale makes wack albums. Wale makes wack music. Wale can't rap. Like, we can put all of that shit to bed. Wale is an incredible, incredible artist to me as far as I'm just my taste level. I think this album, this project that he put out is right on par with everything else Wale has ever put out. Just being a stickler or Karen. I just. Some of the mixes on certain songs I hate. It's like, you know, I like to. I like for that music to really be loud. I like the vocals to be. To pierce through the speakers, like. But, you know, other than that, outside of that, another flawless project from Wy Land as far as I'm concerned.

[Sponsor Voice]

Yeah.

[Mall]

My personal opinion, I can. I feel comfortable saying Wale has one of my favorite discographies in hip hop.

[Rory]

Without a doubt, like, period.

[Mall]

I'm not saying, like, without. I'm saying period of my personal favorites. Wale has one of the best catalogs to me, and this just added to it. I mean, it's. This year is going to be, I think, the toughest year end episode for.

[Rory]

Me, really, as far as music.

[Mall]

Like, trying to put together the rap album list. Like, this has been such a good year for hip hop that I don't even know. Like, as much as I love the Chance project, I'm like, well, this Wally one can make top three. Like, yeah, there's so many albums that I would keep switching because it's just been one of those years. I don't know how I'm gonna put together a 5 or even a 10 with everything they dropped and this just added to it in the fourth quarter. I guess my only real critique on it is I also think Wale has one of the best intro catalogs of all time. Like, if you were to make a playlist of all his intros, I think he has some of the best intros from any rapper. Conundrum is only two minutes. It's incredible. Yeah, but I wanted another verse on Conundrum. Yeah, like, it ended too quick because that first verse was so good. And while I usually always has incredible intros, that was my only complaint.

[Rory]

Yeah, it's just wanting more. The music is incredible.

[Mall]

It's.

[Rory]

Yeah, it's rapping, obviously, from Wally. The rapping is always going to be up there. But yeah, this, this, this album to me is again, put it right in his discography with the rest of them. I ain't, you know, we need more time to pass, to see where it lands in his discography as far as the order.

[Mall]

But, yeah, Wally's also one of the few rappers that can experiment with different sounds from different regions of the world throughout the album. And it.

[Rory]

You mean Africa?

[Mall]

Well, that, too, yes. I mean, he had Afrobeats on his first album in 09.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mall]

And it's still, like, not feel that way, I guess. And I know we always do the cohesive word and all that shit, but it's a word.

[Rory]

We can use it.

[Mall]

Yeah. When I feel like people. People usually are like, and here's my Afrobeat song. And then it moves on to, like, their R B song. It was just like, nah, both were good, but I don't know. Wale finds a way with his sequencing to never feel like you're kind of out of his pocket, more or less.

[Rory]

Say sequencing again.

[Mall]

Sequences.

[Rory]

He said Wale has a better thinking. Oh, no, I'm here to fuck with you today. I don't know if, you know, I'm.

[Mall]

Being quiet, but you see, I'm not even shooting back.

[Rory]

Yeah, no, you can't.

[Mall]

I'm not shooting back at all.

[Rory]

You can't say nothing to the black man, to the black king. You can't do that. Yes. Baby D. I'm sorry.

[Damaris]

I didn't say anything. You've been showing your ass an hour before we even got on this mic.

[Rory]

So what did I do?

[Mall]

Baby, I was here to let you show your ass.

[Damaris]

It's fine.

[Rory]

All right, man. All right. I'm sorry.

[Mall]

Rory, show ho. No, don't let her. Curb your enthusiasm. It's okay. Nah.

[Rory]

Cause Baby D be trying to be on my ass so never.

[Mall]

Baby, like, nobody else is gonna do it.

[Damaris]

Literally no one else does it.

[Rory]

But now people do it. But, you know, I don't give a fuck, Baby D. You know I don't give a fuck. You know that.

[Damaris]

Who else be on your ass?

[Rory]

Everybody. Every time I open my phone, yo, you cool? I'm like, all right, man. Back to Wale album.

[Mall]

Like, I think she met, like, people in your life.

[Rory]

Oh, people in my life. Oh, no. People in my life love me. They know. This is. They know.

[Damaris]

Nobody. It don't. It wouldn't be nobody with me. I'd be like, oh, it's just me.

[Mall]

All right, cool.

[Rory]

No, no. People. People give me. They know. But people know that I'm not, you know, I'm not trying to be disrespectful. I'm just. Sometimes I just don't give a. And I say what I Want to say, that's all. So I'm just here to fuck with you, Roy Thief.

[Mall]

Oh, you.

[Damaris]

What you have put your sneakers on that you bought when we went on our date.

[Rory]

I did. You noticed that, baby D, Huh? Notice I put them infrared nine fives on? Yeah. You know what I mean? I think I wore them once before this. I wore them once before this. But yeah, this is 9 5. It's that time of year, fall.

[Mall]

Do they still, like, make a bunch of different colorways with Air Max 95s?

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mall]

Okay.

[Rory]

Yeah, I know.

[Mall]

I love Air Max 95.

[Rory]

It's a few. Like, this is. I changed the aesthetic every now and then, like the sneakers I wear. So, like, I'm just about to just get all the colors that I don't have a 9 5s.

[Mall]

And probably you can't go wrong with.

[Rory]

Probably just wear those. Those like the rest of the fall, winter to just be a different. Different pair of nine fives.

[Mall]

What. What's the most comfortable shoe to you? Because ever?

[Rory]

Yeah, that's tough.

[Mall]

Nine fives are up there for me though.

[Rory]

They are comfortable.

[Mall]

They give you support.

[Rory]

Yeah, they comfortable. You saw the. The most comfortable ever walk fast in them. I had a pair of Y3s that was incredibly like. I was like. I felt like I could walk to Boston no problem with. I had them shits on one day and was like, I was just dying for like, yo, pull up. I'm like, all right. I'm about to walk over there. Yeah, like, that was. That was probably one of the most comfortable sneakers that I ever had was a pair of Y threes.

[Mall]

I'm trying to remember what number it is with New Balances.

[Rory]

New Balance up 990s. You're not. You like. No, I love 90s right now, but.

[Mall]

These are not the most comfortable to me when it comes to New Balances. Not this version of the 990s, but the 990. Like V6 1. Like the orthopedic one.

[Rory]

Okay. Yeah. Yeah.

[Mall]

Those are the most comfortable shoes of all time.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mall]

Like, those are my retirement old man shoes for the rest of my life. I could do anything in the Nene.

[Rory]

Nene is from oh, Maryland. And that was part of our like, back and forth Friday was that Baltimore gave us the New Balances.

[Mall]

Well, how I fell in love with New Balances was when I was visit my dad in Baltimore or PG County. Like, that's how I fell in love with New Balances in high school.

[Rory]

But now it's just about comfort. I don't care what it is as long as it's comfortable.

[Mall]

Well, that's why I'm so happy New Balances got so popular that they wanted to, you know, do all these collabs with other designers and other colorways and all that, because they are the most comfortable shoe. Yeah, but there was only so many options back in 05 new balances. That didn't get me laughed out of the fucking cafeteria, baby.

[Rory]

What did you think about the Wild album? Did you listen to it?

[Damaris]

I haven't had a chance to listen.

[Rory]

What you listening to?

[Damaris]

It's been a busy week. I listened to Summer Walker shout out to Summer Walker.

[Rory]

Finally over it.

[Mall]

Yes, sir.

[Rory]

I don't know where I put that in the over it trilogy.

[Mall]

Too. Too soon to even.

[Rory]

I don't know where I put it.

[Mall]

But I'm. But I'm on the side that Summer Walker is three for three, and I don't. That's a tough thing to say for artists. Like, I think Summer's been around long enough that we can start to have that conversation. Because going three for three the way she has should be noted.

[Rory]

I like the record with her Lotto Dopey.

[Damaris]

You like Yo Go Girl.

[Mall]

Okay.

[Rory]

Doja's on that, right? It's Lotto, yo.

[Mall]

All right, so that was the, like, the record. Of course, you know, online, it's always been mixed reviews no matter what the artist is for the most part.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mall]

That was really, like, the only real negative critiques I was seeing was Go Girl. But that's one of my favorite records off the first few lists.

[Rory]

They killing that online. Yeah, I like that record.

[Mall]

It's doing well on Tick Tock. But like, you know, Twitter, Instagram and all that, people were saying that was the one they didn't like.

[Damaris]

It gives you either. That's a song that you're either going to absolutely love or absolutely hate. There's no in between because it's a different type of song.

[Mall]

I mean, I do. I do have a take on it, though.

[Damaris]

What's your take, sweetie?

[Mall]

I think Summer Walker watched two amazing rappers.

[Damaris]

I can understand why you said she.

[Mall]

Had the best verse to me and Doja went off. But I was not shocked because we know Summer has a great pen, but I didn't know she was gonna clean up.

[Rory]

We had Bryson here a couple months ago. Bryson, you and Summer just need to give us the project.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Cause they don't miss. Whenever they are featured on each other's songs, they don't miss. So we need the Summer Walker Bryson Tiller album. They Were just on tour with Chris. Hopefully there was some conversations about doing some more records together. Cause when them two do a record, it's. It's hard not to like it.

[Mall]

Well, that was one of my favorite places in the album. Going from Situationships to. To give me a Reason. And listen, man, she nailed situationships.

[Damaris]

Now 1, 800 heartbreak is probably the best.

[Rory]

Would you like to expound on it, Baby D? Why did that song speak to you?

[Damaris]

Because Anderson Pac went.

[Mall]

That might be first of the year.

[Damaris]

That he went crazy outside of 2021 Savage. We'll get into 21 Savage. Because 21 Savage said, if you fuck my friends, I'mma give you a stylist twins. And I'm a buy that bitch that do your makeup of bins.

[Mall]

You know.

[Damaris]

It clock it.

[Rory]

He.

[Mall]

He went crazy when the record started, I was like, all right, this is an interesting sound to put Anderson on. And then the beat switched up and. And the Josh bass came in and then Anderson just got off like that. That might be one of my favorite verses of the year. That record is Super Fire.

[Damaris]

What Anderson say, go down Josh.

[Mall]

He gave her like a 64.

[Damaris]

Yeah, he went crazy. Keep going.

[Mall]

While he's looking for that. I am now realizing how many words have S's in you?

[Rory]

Never.

[Mall]

Today I was a 64. Why do I keep picking things that have S's in it?

[Rory]

Yeah, yeah. You never know until today. How many essays you got to say, right?

[Mall]

Oh, my God, my teeth are killing me.

[Rory]

Yeah, you're a soldier for having them just done this morning and getting on mic like that.

[Mall]

Yeah, I was supposed to do it Friday, but I could not get Amara out of the house on time, so I moved it. And I just wanted to get the shit over with before holiday started.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mall]

But they assured me. They assured me suffering sucking trash.

[Rory]

Yo, can we get a spit guard for this mic? Cause we gonna need it. He about to fuck that mic.

[Mall]

Should we bring up some. Some tongue twisters, Some examples with S's. Yeah, and give it a go.

[Rory]

Give it a go. Rory, let me hear you read.

[Mall]

Let's go. When Papoose does the S's. Oh, medical slaughter, please.

[Rory]

No, we can't do that. I wouldn't even put you through that type of torture today. I wouldn't do that to you.

[Mall]

Well, yeah, again, while he looks for that, the Situationship record, which we've talked about on this pod so much. Those like three month relationships where they're the best, you just didn't love. Like she said that. She said her Situationship Ecstasy has nothing on him. Like, not even your man.

[Rory]

I like the album. I gotta live with it more, though. I was so. I was so caught up on the Wale project that I didn't really, like, give the Summer Walker album as much attention that I usually do. But I'm definitely gonna go back to it tonight.

[Damaris]

It's different. It's a different sound for her. It's different for multiple reason. Um, I would say out of the three, it will be number three for me. Which doesn't mean that it's not good. It's still good. It's just that I prefer the other two a little bit more, just because I think I prefer production on one a little bit more and I prefer the vulnerability on another one a little bit more. But this is. This is good. She is definitely three for three. Yeah.

[Mall]

The other two are a little bit more concise too, so this one's gonna, like, take a while to fully digest. I'm with you, though. Like, the production is good. Look good on here. But it's tough to beat the summer London duo. Like, no, especially when they were together and especially when they. They hated each other. Like, yeah, that duo is kind of unmatched.

[Rory]

It worked. No, it worked. It definitely worked.

[Mall]

But I mean, it's. It's still great production on it. When I first saw the track list on Friday, I was a little nervous because usually, like, heavy feature albums are not my personal taste. It doesn't really feel super feature heavy, like you still get a majority summer on it. Yeah, they're well placed. They make sense. But I was nervous and I was like, oh, this is a lot of features. But I think they nailed each one. Rob gym ride Scientists. I mean, Demerit's song of the year for you or what?

[Damaris]

Yo, I could have robbed you.

[Mall]

Hello, 50 cent sample in there.

[Damaris]

Be so easy be going. I could have put that on my payroll and had you robbed. Cause you so easy you going where did my soul? You easy as you feel like you.

[Rory]

Want to expound a little more, Baby D. And tell us why you feel such a personal connection to that message.

[Damaris]

No, I didn't say it was personal. I'm just saying we all give us some names. We've all been there. Nah, definitely, definitely. That you could set up with a bad to get robbed. Cuz they just easy they going is sad. Think highly of yourself.

[Mall]

They just be having them at the crib. Like, just come on over.

[Rory]

I can't with the marriage, yo.

[Damaris]

Just leave me alone, all right?

[Rory]

I'm Gonna leave you alone. The marriage is really crazy. All right, my bad, baby. I'm sorry.

[Damaris]

Anywho. Yeah, but no, a lot of be going sorry, y'.

[Mall]

All.

[Damaris]

You've been easy before. It's definitely a. That could have set you up to get robbed.

[Mall]

Robbed.

[Rory]

I mean, it would. It would have been a bad night for somebody. But yeah, I'm sure it was some nights where I did. But. But see, the thing about me is I feel when I'm slipping, like I'll be in the middle of the slip like I'm outta here. I'm in here butt naked in the middle in her house like this. N blowing her line. I'm outta here. Like you feel some niggas just be willy nilly laid up. They don't care. Nothing loose, just loose. Yeah, yeah. You gonna have to really catch me slipping. But absolutely, I've been in situations with women that definitely was not probably, like, safe. And if, you know, she was trying to have something happen to me, it could have happened. I mean, something would have happened to him too, but something would have happened to me, obviously. But yeah, definitely. The thing is, I get out of that shit soon as I feel it. Like, nah, I'm bugging. I'm out of there.

[Mall]

Yeah. When I think I told you the time Del State wasn't a setup, per se, but I went to a woman's apartment that went to Del State and her boyfriend called and he was. She was dating a local. Like, not somebody that was at the.

[Rory]

Yeah, he was right. He was down the block. Yeah, yeah.

[Mall]

See where the fuck you at? Screen on the phone. She's like, he's not gonna come down. I said, I'm getting the fuck out of here.

[Rory]

I never. Girls be like, don't worry about him. No, I'm worried about him. Like you.

[Mall]

I know I'm.

[Rory]

You not worried. Like, I'm. But yeah, he love. He sounds like he's crazy about you. And I'm in your house naked with the. With the fridge door open. Like.

[Mall]

Yeah, like getting the out of here.

[Rory]

I'm out of here.

[Mall]

Where's my draw? I don't have. I don't have a lot of family in Delaware to help me out in this situation. I'm just gonna run the. Out of this apartment.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mall]

Critique wise. I wish Baby with Chris Brown was. Was longer. Like, just when I felt like it was ready to cook, it was over. That record could have been like five minutes to me. But I. I love that song. I don't know. I'm excited to live with this one, I. I know Damaris is gonna be wild at the hookah spot to a Baller.

[Rory]

Which one was Baller?

[Mall]

She gonna have the windows open in the car in the winter.

[Damaris]

I wasn't a fan of Baller.

[Mall]

Really. Okay. What didn't you like about it?

[Damaris]

I don't know. It just wasn't. It was cool, but it wasn't like, for me, but it was. It was cool. It's a good song. Now don't make me do it. Don't make me do it. Yeah, that one.

[Rory]

You care to talk about why that one?

[Mall]

Say that? Like, why that one specifically?

[Rory]

Yeah, you can't even talk about that one specifically. You want to give us a lyric breakdown on that one?

[Damaris]

You do it. But no, no, it's. It's a good album overall. No, is really good, too. The. With the Beyonce sample. Yeah, no, it was really, really good.

[Mall]

Chris Brown, they had a. There was a Mariah sample on that, right?

[Damaris]

If I'm not. I think so. Yes.

[Mall]

Always be my baby yeah, Always my.

[Damaris]

Baby so leave my baby sample. Stitch me up the girls tend to love our seeming to love stitch me up, which is basically just like, fix me, heal me, that sort of thing.

[Rory]

Stephan told Cardi. Stephan was ahead of his time with the stitch me up. He told Cardi, let me fix you.

[Damaris]

Let me hear you.

[Mall]

Damaris, you mentioned that the second album was a little more vulnerable. I did see some people saying that this summer album was a bit more surface than the first two and the mixtape stuff, because obviously we know Summer is. Is usually extremely vulnerable and extremely lyrical about her feelings. I don't. I kind of think the theme of over it should stay there. Like, it shouldn't be super. I'm over the shit. Yeah, let's dance.

[Damaris]

Yeah, fuck it. Let's. Let's use men for their money.

[Mall]

Yeah, like, I thought. I think it actually, like, content wise, was a great way to end the trilogy as far as what she was talking about and how she was coming across. Like, definitely. It was very much like, I'm not even getting deep in this feeling anymore. I'm cool. So, yeah, so I saw that critique, but I don't know. I think it's good music. So I don't. I don't put too much on that, to be quite honest. I think it wraps it up pretty good overall.

[Rory]

Great project, though. Shout out to Summer for Shout out to Summer Walker. Finally over it. All right now, Summer, Listen, you telling us you finally over it now?

[Damaris]

When? JK's just kidding. Fuck that nigga.

[Rory]

Come out when spin the block part one. Come out when the Spin the Block series starts.

[Mall]

Summer went under it.

[Rory]

Yeah, went under it. Come out when. God damn it, child, I need help. Come out when that drop. We on you something we love you, but we on you if you spin the block, we let you know right now Said you finally over it. God damn it, we over it.

[Mall]

I mean, but what if she. The album title is like, you guys knew I wasn't serious or like, nah, I was lying.

[Damaris]

Be fucking for real.

[Rory]

Be fucking for real.

[Mall]

I'll never be over this shit.

[Rory]

Yeah, someone don't give us. Here we go again. Don't give us here. We don't want to hear Here we go again. Finally over it. Let's leave it there. But no, all jokes aside, great project. Shout out to lvrn on another fantastic rollout. Yeah, shout out to the guys and everybody over there for putting out another great summer project.

[Mall]

We gotta ask justice. See Ss. Justice.

[Rory]

Wasn't he supposed to. Wasn't just supposed to be here today?

[Mall]

Yeah, they ended up not coming to New York.

[Rory]

Okay. Okay.

[Mall]

We have to ask him to put us in contact with the old guy that's on the album cover. I want to know his story. Yeah, we want to know what that.

[Rory]

Day that we never did talk to him. Right. We never did ask him how he felt. Let's. Let's figure out what that gentleman feels about the project and the overall sound of the. Of the summer album, because I'm sure.

[Mall]

It was some type of casting call. But, like, I would love to know what lvrn sent out to cast boxing agencies to try to find this guy.

[Rory]

Yeah. What's his date?

[Mall]

His. His pitch was.

[Rory]

And is he still allowed to see the release of the project? We don't know. I'm just saying. We don't know, baby D. We don't know.

[Damaris]

You sick.

[Rory]

He looks great.

[Mall]

What a way to go out, though.

[Rory]

Yeah, he looks great. But I'm just saying, did he. This. This picture could have been taken in June.

[Mall]

What's. What would be funny is if he's not really in a wheelchair and they're like, yo, you're gonna accurate.

[Rory]

I'm in a wheelchair. Like, I'm out here. I got hoes. I love it, though. I love that look. That. That cover is hard. I like that.

[Mall]

Yeah. Whoever came up with that concept, shout out to Nicole.

[Rory]

What's her name, Anna Nicole Smith, for the. Obviously the inspiration behind of what true love looks like. I mean, yeah, she did say she was in Love.

[Mall]

How much did she.

[Rory]

Nothing.

[Mall]

After that guy passed.

[Rory]

Nothing.

[Mall]

Really?

[Rory]

Nope. She didn't get a dime. The family won the case in court, so, yeah, she. She didn't get anything.

[Mall]

That's nuts. Okay, so for those that don't remember, because I don't, she received 475 million from court, but bankruptcy court, then it was later awarded nothing by the Texas.

[Rory]

Probate court jury and never actually received any money from her late husband's estate.

[Mall]

Yo, listen, man, there's. There's been money that I was waiting on that, you know, sometimes you start, like, scheduling the money that you know is coming in. Can you imagine scheduling for 475 million and then not getting that? Like, that would be nuts. You know, she went crazy with her credit card before that, and now it's just sitting with. Sitting on that debt.

[Rory]

Well, rest in peace to both of them, obviously. But, yeah, that. That was always. I remember back then when that, you know, they had came out that that's who her husband was. Everybody kind of looked at that initially.

[Mall]

Like how they make.

[Rory]

Anna, what the hell you doing over there? Cut the shit. What are you doing?

[Damaris]

No Warrior now.

[Mall]

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[Mall]

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[Mall]

Mall. Since you are, I feel like the face of Uptown You, I'm the face of uptown. You in my like.

[Rory]

Okay.

[Mall]

In my opinion, you're the face. When I think of uptown, I think mall is appreciate. Thank you. I've asked you this before. When Dame said, harlem sticks together. I feel like sometimes they don't, but it appears now Cam, Mace, and Max B. Are sitting down. They posted a photo, I believe it's supposed to be an interview, but I was also hoping maybe they weren't talks on the network side for someone. Max B. But this is.

[Rory]

This is exciting. No, no, definitely. I mean, we excited to see anything that Max B. Does after his, you know, his release from prison to see, you know, what it sounds like as far as the music. But we've always said Max B's personality, especially now, is something that he can probably capitalize off more. So to see him sitting down with Cam and Mace. Obviously, Cam and Mace know what the optics are gonna look like with that. Like, we.

[Mall]

That's what I want to get.

[Rory]

That's what I want to get to the guys. Listen, Cam, Mace, cut this shit. First of all, I love y'. All. Let's start there, but cut the shit. Y' all know what y' all doing. Max, you know exactly what this looks like, but I'm not mad at it. Listen, man, if the guys could come together, I'd rather see Cam and Mace doing business with Max. Obviously, you know, the relationship with Cam and Mace and Jim is where it is, but I'd rather see them doing something with Max than not doing something with him.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Rory]

You know what I'm saying? So I get how it looks. I get that, you know, how it's gonna come across to, you know, people that's looking at it and say, oh, damn. Like, you know, Cam and Jim, obviously, you know, this is another thing in their tiff or their kind of whatever they have going on with each other that is gonna kind of push them further apart, then bring them closer, But I don't know where that stands. But I'm happy to see Cam and Mace and Max. We don't know what they were talking about. Don't know what they were sitting down discussing.

[Mall]

I know it was a homicide.

[Rory]

No, it was definitely a lot of laughs and jokes going on. But the fact that there's still Harlem in the room. You know what I mean? Jim is not there. You know how I feel about that. I wish that it could all be a more unified thing. But the fact that that's Cam and Mace and then now Max sitting there, it's a lot of History and a lot of things that people don't know about at that table right there, that it's just dope to see them sitting down and having a conversation and then, you know, where Cam and Mace are in the entertainment space.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Rory]

And the things that they're probably able to help Max with, you know, as far as maybe getting his own situation, his own show, I just think it's dope, man, either in any way or capacity that Cam and Mace could help Max. I think that is fire that they reached out and had some type of conversation with him.

[Mall]

Yeah. I mean, I think a couple things can be true. No matter if Cam and Jim Jones weren't seen eye to eye, obviously Max and Cam were up, I think, in the same building. Obviously a lot of history there. This would make sense regardless. But I also think that Cam, Mace and Max B. Are of elite level pettiness. And this could go off the rails in the interview. Three elite, petty individuals with a common. I don't want to say enemy, but a current issue.

[Rory]

Yeah, I mean, they share some issues. But again, I don't even want to make this about that because I'm not. I'm not sitting here anticipating that they're going to make this a thing of, you know, trying to, I guess, you know, throw shots or on Jim.

[Mall]

I'm with you. I don't want this.

[Rory]

I know how it's gonna.

[Mall]

That's what I'm saying.

[Rory]

I don't. I don't know, man. I just. Just seeing Max and since he's been home and, you know, just seeing videos of him online and things like that, I just don't know if he's Even. If he cares that much to even jump into that type of energy. I don't. I think that he's more focused on Max B. Like, you know. Cause now when you do that, if you jump right into that energy that's now sharing your energy and this momentum that you have with Jim, you know what I'm saying?

[Mall]

This is the one I'm the least worried about in that regard. I think Cam is gonna be the one.

[Rory]

I don't. Yeah, but I don't. But I don't think Max is gonna allow that. I think Max want to focus on Max. He want to do Max B shit. He want to get back to his wave and doing what he do. Um, but again, we know how it's gonna look if they do anything, if they sit down, if he's on, you know, it is what it is. You know, obviously they're gonna Talk about certain things, but I just don't. I don't know the energy that I'm seeing in Max. I think he's more focused on, you know, getting his thing back in order and focusing on what he has to do. I don't think he's just that eager to jump back into a situation or, I guess a beef with somebody. I don't think that that's the end. That's not the energy I'm getting from Max. Again, the optics is hard to ignore.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Rory]

But I don't. I don't see that from Max. I don't see Max even allowing it to turn into something where it's, like, negative or, you know, I think Max is more so trying to figure out how he can take advantage of this momentum and, you know, get right back into what he was doing before he had to go away. I don't think it's gonna be anything negative, though.

[Mall]

While we're on that era of. Of music into personalities, I feel like some of my favorite rappers have become some of my favorite personalities as well, because I. I think Yay on. On Vlad is hilarious. I love leaks podcast that he. That he does on the Drink Champs network. But, yeah, was on Vlad, and he started a challenge. He said he could beat Memphis Bleak in a. Versus.

[Rory]

No, I don't agree with that.

[Mall]

All right. Do you think it'd be close at least? I know you have to say, I think.

[Rory]

I think it would be.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Rory]

I don't. I'm not saying Bleak would wash Tony Yayo. I'm not gonna say that, because Yayo got. He got verses on some big records that he can obviously play, but so does Bleak, you know, I mean, so.

[Mall]

They'Re both in a similar space where they have. They have their own respective solo stuff, but they're on so many great, like, posse and group cuts that it would be. It would be a tough matchup in. In my opinion. Does he get to play Dear Summer? It's his song Bleak. Yeah.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Mall]

He's not rapping on it.

[Rory]

It's his song.

[Damaris]

It.

[Mall]

Him just playing Dear Summer and then just sitting there quietly.

[Rory]

But, like, jokes aside, once Bleak start getting into the coming of age and all of that. Listen, man, like, y' all not.

[Mall]

But Bleak is. Is the furthest in from a slouch when it comes to his catalog.

[Rory]

Listen, I get it. I get it. It's. You know, it's his cool to crack jokes and laugh and things like. But Bleak has songs. His first few albums like Bleak was. Bleak has some shit out there in the streets. I know a lot of people online now was young. They don't really remember that. But, like, once, Bleak could play, like, literally, like, joints. Like, coming to age and what's the other? Is he on? Is that your chick? Is Bleak on that?

[Mall]

Yep.

[Rory]

Like, what are we talking about, though? Like, Blink can play some records. That's like.

[Mall]

I mean, this is off. Just, like, you know how Apple has the essentials, but sometimes they miss a lot of stuff. But just for a conversation, say he was on. Is that your chick changed the game.

[Rory]

That's a win.

[Mall]

Like that he's on. It's all right. He has my favorite verse on 1900 hustler.

[Rory]

He could play that. That's the win. Won that round. You, me, him and her won that round.

[Mall]

Yeah. I mean, Bleak has joints.

[Rory]

He got.

[Mall]

He got mine, right? Yeah.

[Rory]

He got verses on songs that when they come on on A versus stage, niggas gonna be like, oh, shit, I forgot Bleak was on this joint. Like, I know how that would go now. So does Yayo. He got verses on songs that's like, oh, shit. Okay. The whole G Unit shit, what they was doing with 50. But we not gonna just act like. I don't know why Yayo would just say that. Actually, I know why Yayo would say that. Because then people would talk about it, and it may become a real thing. And Bleak and Yayo could get a bag from Versus. Like, I get that. But, yeah, it's not gonna be. I don't want anybody to really think that Bleak would get washed.

[Mall]

The only thing with Yayo, I mean, Yayo does have the whole Beg for Mercy G Unit album that he can play. Like, the amount of records that are on Beg for Mercy is insane. Popping them things. My buddy stunt 101 want to get to know you Croupy love.

[Rory]

Like, none of those songs be you.

[Mall]

Me, him, or you're not wrong. That is definitely a win. I smell pussy. Then he has own shit. I know you don't love me so seductive Stomp one on one like. Like Yayo got joints pimping I love by Yayo Drama set us fire Got.

[Rory]

Records he could play.

[Mall]

I think it'd be a cool matchup, to be quite honest.

[Rory]

It would be. It would be. But I don't want people thinking that Bleak is gonna go in there and get washed.

[Mall]

Oh, hell, no.

[Rory]

No, no. That's all I'm saying. I'm just speaking on people.

[Mall]

I think it's a pretty good matchup.

[Rory]

That people are saying, nah, Bleak Again, don't listen. Go do your due diligence on Bleak and listen to the joints that he got. Because I think a lot of people. It's convenient for people to forget about Memphis Bleak and the records that he got. But Bleak got some that if he playing, the verses are gonna turn each other, like, damn, I forgot he was on this.

[Mall]

Yeah. Yeah. But then Yayo, like, in between songs will just be like, all right, but I performed this in Croatia while eating scallops.

[Rory]

Yeah. Dinosaur eggs. And like that. Like, yeah.

[Mall]

And then you're by, like, yo, point to Yayo.

[Rory]

Yeah. I'm like, I don't know, man. I never had a dinosaur egg. So shout out to him. You won. You got that right.

[Mall]

Congratulations to Pusha T and his wife. They announced they're having their second baby.

[Rory]

Congrats.

[Mall]

And, you know, usually just baby announcements, ironically, when you're involving Pusha T, usually just people say, congrats and move forward. But this became like a fucking debate based off the caption that he had put up on IG when he did announce that they were having their second child, Damaris. I don't know if you want to read this one.

[Damaris]

So he wrote the first half. I won't read it. The first half was directed to his son Nigel, basically saying, ask for a big brother. You're getting one right. To his wife, Virginia, he said, thank you for my second baby boy. I hope you carry on with tradition and never teach me how to change a diaper, prep a meal, suck out a sny nose, or anything else a super mom does. You make things very easy for me, and I love and appreciate you all for it. See you spring 20, 2026. My boy.

[Mall]

I mean, if that. If that's. They set up.

[Rory]

So wait, they was. They was killing Pusha T for saying that?

[Mall]

Who was you just texting Push a T? Yeah, it's the.

[Damaris]

I hope you carry on with tradition and never teach me how to change a diaper, prep a meal, suck out a Saudi nose, or anything else that super mom does. So what people were attacking him for was basically saying that, oh, she's a single mom.

[Mall]

Like, that does not mean she's a single mom.

[Rory]

How did they get that out of this?

[Damaris]

Well, because it's basically saying, like, that you're a. You. You're doing this like you're doing it alone.

[Rory]

You're being a supermom.

[Damaris]

Yeah. You're doing it alone. You have a partner in the house. Everything's paid for, but you're doing it alone.

[Rory]

I didn't get that. I think that that was just his way of saying, you do it all. You're a supermom. Like, because obviously he's an entertainer, he's away from home a lot. You know, that's just the dynamic of those type of relationships. When somebody is the entertainer or is a public figure or whatever, owns companies and they're away from home a lot. Somebody is home taking care of Home taking care of the kids, raising them and. And things like that. I think that's more what that is. Like, just Pusha T in his own way. Like, you do everything. Like, you know what I'm saying? I ain't basically, Pusha T said, he ain't shit. Like, I don't do. Like.

[Damaris]

Yeah, but there's a difference between saying, thank you for doing everything and thank you for keeping out of tradition and never teaching me how to do these things. Like, you just do it. You don't have to teach. I don't have to learn how to do it.

[Rory]

No, I'm just a joke. I hope you carry on with tradition and never teach me how to change a diaper. Like, Pusha T knows how to change a diaper. This is just shit talking. Like, he definitely knows how to do that, Ma.

[Damaris]

You know what you do a lot when people say something very directly on what they mean, you make them sound better. Like, nah, that ain't what he meant.

[Rory]

You think Pusha T don't know how to change a diaper?

[Damaris]

I think that what pushes that nigga.

[Rory]

Know how to turn one brick into three. You think he don't know how to change a diaper? He know how to put cut and re rock. You think he don't know how to change a diaper?

[Mall]

He's rewrapped, Cooper.

[Rory]

Do y' all listen to his raps?

[Damaris]

I'm sure you think he know how.

[Rory]

To cook a boy and don't know how to change a diaper? What are we talking about?

[Mall]

We're gonna get a lot of cool cocaine references from this entire exchange.

[Rory]

Yeah, he know how to change a diaper, man. I mean, yeah, he know how to change a diaper. Now, I don't know if you know he knows how to.

[Mall]

It's cause you know how to though.

[Rory]

He may not know how to prep a meal. He could prep a brick, but you know it's a little different.

[Damaris]

But he know how to suck out a snotty nose. But he know how to give him one.

[Rory]

There you go. He know how to give you a runny nose off. That blow off that line, that rail you just did. You know what I'm saying? Like, yeah, yeah.

[Mall]

And maybe he doesn't do this because he has, like, PTSD or it gives him flashbacks. You know, if he was trying to change a diaper or prep a meal, he doesn't want to go back to that life.

[Rory]

Yeah. So I think that was just his way of just having fun and just thanking his wife for doing everything. Like, I think that's all it is. People put too much stock into people's words and don't understand context. I mean, don't understand things like that. You know, even.

[Mall]

Let's say it is completely true and direct. I. I don't know. Some people. If it works for your family, then do it that way. Like, some people have just older, traditional ways of how a household goes with everyone's role.

[Rory]

And then what's wrong with it?

[Mall]

Works for. If she's pissed, then no, we should probably talk about this. But if it works for her and works for him.

[Rory]

This is why people are crazy. We sit here every week and read tweets and read social media and things about women dying to just be housewives, dying not to have to get up and go to work. All right, so then take care of the kids, raise the family, take care of home. So this is basically what Pusha is saying his wife is doing. She's a stay at home mom. Like, you know what I'm saying? She's raising the kids, taking care of the home, and they're killing her for that.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Y' all ask for this every week. Y' all online talking about, I just wanna take care of the kids and drop the kids off at school and go to Pilates and go get a latte.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Rory]

And now y' all mad at Pusha for saying his wife takes care of the kids and goes to have a latte. Like the fuck. Like, people just be looking for anything to be upset about.

[Mall]

Well, the snotty nose thing, that's actually kind of fun. Like, they have this. This thing that you stick in your kid's nose and you can, Paul, suck out, like, the snot. It's like a fun activity, actually.

[Rory]

You like that? You'd be having fun with tomorrow.

[Mall]

We both be laughing sometimes. It's like, how. How is all that snot in your little ass? How did this happen? Where are you storing this?

[Rory]

What are you eating?

[Mall]

Yeah, it's like. It's satisfying to see a bunch of snot going in that tube, baby.

[Rory]

D, you all right? What did you.

[Mall]

Yeah, what you been doing? This like, yo, what's up? This whole episode, you have been.

[Rory]

Do me a favor. Close that lap that laptop Is you up right now. I don't know who you texting. Who you talking to over there? You on the floor. What is you doing?

[Sponsor Voice]

I had to plug.

[Damaris]

Well, I was looking up stuff about Pusha T, how old Nigel was. Well, their first kid, how old he was when the last time Pusha T released the album. But my laptop was about to die, so I had to plug it up.

[Rory]

Oh, okay.

[Damaris]

But while y' all were talking, I was plugging up the laptop.

[Rory]

I thought the chair broke. I just see you on. Underneath the desk like. You all right, though? You good?

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Rory]

All right, cool.

[Mall]

Would you be cool with this dynamic, this. This scenario? Well, let me ask Damaris, because I think any man would be, you know, if he didn't have to do that.

[Damaris]

Yeah, enough. If you got Pusha T money, nanny me. Nanny me.

[Mall]

So what then? So what do you do, right?

[Damaris]

I do.

[Mall]

Yeah. This isn't about Virginia at all. We're talking about Damaris.

[Damaris]

First of all, if you had a nanny, you would still be parenting, right? You would just have help parenting, but you would still be parenting. Yeah. I hate when people say if you have a nanny, you're not raising your child. That's just so not true.

[Mall]

Oh, I don't agree with that.

[Damaris]

It's just.

[Rory]

But you changing the dynamic. Rory is working. He has a job. He's doing things. We're saying if you're the stay at home, if you're the wife, you don't work. You don't have to get up and go to a job every day. You're saying you would then, too still want a nanny even though you don't have a job.

[Damaris]

Yeah, kids are a lot of. They have two kids. Kids are a lot of work. If. If I have a nanny that can help me with the minuscule things of parenting, I can spend more quality time with my kid. Because now when. When my baby, I have this baby that I'm taking care of, and then I have a toddler that I'm also taking care of. Like if. When the baby needs to nurse or be put to sleep and rocked to sleep, if my nanny can do that, I can spend more quality time with my toddler. If my toddler needs to be distracted when I'm trying to do something for my baby, baby I like, it's help. If I can have someone who's here to clean the dishes or put on a pajama while I help with the other. Yeah, that's. People need help with kids, especially if the other parent is on tour at the studio all the time, like, and it's just me in the house. There's a reason why they say you need a two parent household. If one is gone mentally, physically, he's gone. Yeah, it's nice to have help with that. I don't think that that's crazy. So when people say, if you have a nanny, what are you doing? Do you know how much shit it takes to take care of two kids? A toddler and a fucking. A baby.

[Rory]

I see people do it all the time.

[Damaris]

Yes, they can do it all the time, but if they had the option to have help, they would get it.

[Rory]

No, they do, they just prefer not to.

[Damaris]

Like, okay, well that's, that's their person.

[Rory]

One parent is not working. They're like, I need a nanny for.

[Damaris]

Like, that's their personal opinion. Me personal, Me personally, I want to be, I want, when I wake up, I want somebody to help wake, wake up with me and help me get my kids ready so that I'm not exhausted. So that, or help me with around the house so that when my kids come home, I'm not tired from cleaning and cooking.

[Rory]

Would you ever be a nanny?

[Damaris]

Could I ever be a nanny? No, no, that's not, no, not for me.

[Rory]

You don't love kids enough.

[Damaris]

No, it's not that I don't love kids enough. You can love kids. I love kids enough not to be a nanny. I don't have a lot of patience. I'm not a very.

[Rory]

Yeah, they would have you on Dateline slamming the kid up against the fuck.

[Damaris]

That's no, that's not what that means. That's not what that means.

[Rory]

They would have dimorous on Dateline NBC like your baby. I would see that shit like your baby d tripping. Why she threw me little man across the. Yeah, I know you. I'm just with you.

[Mall]

I give so much credit, like to the people at a Mars daycare and then we were doing school tours for like 3k and like the early learning stuff. I'm like, yo, I this many young kids running around like, y' all are the bravest people of all time. Yeah, I, I, that's a crazy job to me. Nanny anything in child care of, of very young kids. Yeah, like you have to be built a certain way to handle. I'm not saying a nanny for one kid, that whatever. But like being at a daycare, like, there's a reason why it's two teachers and like, six kids.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mall]

Because that's a lot. Like, that is. Is crazy to me. I. I get anxiety just walking into a mars daycare with the chaos that is ensuing with all of these children.

[Rory]

Running around very loud.

[Mall]

And when. Pickup time. Oh, my God.

[Rory]

And it's like, it's like a riot. Yeah. Like, their bodies are like alarms. They know when it's time to go home.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Y' all don't remember that, being that little and be like, you know when you're about to, like. Like, you about to leave? It's the best feeling ever. Like, I'm out of here. I can't wait to go home and just do nothing. Run amok, do anything.

[Mall]

I refused to leave daycare one time because my mom got a haircut and I didn't think it was her. That's 100. True story.

[Rory]

You cried.

[Mall]

Yeah. I, like, would not leave with her. The.

[Damaris]

Did she get a Buzz Lightyear? Like, what she looked like?

[Mall]

I don't remember any of this. Just a story that my mom tells everyone all the time. But I, like, refused. I was, like, grabbing onto the teacher's leg of, like, that's not my mom.

[Rory]

Yeah. I see. This would be a lot of videos like that online. Like, people, like, with their fathers cut their beards, and the kids start crying. I'm like, that is so funny. But it's a real thing. Like, you're so used to seeing your parent a certain way, and then now they pop up with no hair on their face or no hair on their head. You're like, I'm not going with that person. That's not my mother.

[Mall]

Yeah, I guess you just got to cut, like, a little shorter. And I was like, there's no way that's my mom. I didn't know. I guess I didn't know how haircuts worked at the time. And I was like, her hair is like this.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mall]

And that is not, like, every day.

[Rory]

Her hair is like this. What is this? Yeah.

[Mall]

Trying to explain that to a kid, though, would be so frustrating. And, like, you're the person working at the daycare just trying to go home, and it's like, this is what's keeping me.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mall]

Not even a real issue.

[Rory]

It's just the haircut. I don't want to go.

[Mall]

Is there anything left that we have to discuss before voicemails?

[Rory]

What is this? Guy catches fiance at her dead ex boyfriend's gravesite thing. Is that real? Because here's another thing that people just be doing for content. Like, like, okay, this is not real. I could tell already.

[Damaris]

Yeah. The actor. The acting is always so bad.

[Rory]

Yeah. The skit. This is a skit. So we don't talk about it.

[Mall]

Yeah. I mean, the AI stuff gets me, but the fact that so many people think these couple skits are real is out of my mind. Like, it's the most obvious.

[Damaris]

But you can make bands off Facebook doing that. Facebook falls for any.

[Rory]

That's because all the old people is over there.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Rory]

They don't know what's real and what's not. You know how many times my mother hit me with a story like, did you see that boy that came? Like, Ma, that's not. Before she even finished on my. That's not real. Stop. That's just not. It is. It's on Facebook. It's definitely not real if it's on Facebook. It's not. Like, just.

[Mall]

It's not real.

[Damaris]

AI has made things on Facebook so bad, and there's just. It's all rage bait. Like, the Internet has just become rage, but people will create stories that people are going to argue about on. In, like, on Facebook all day and just get money off it. Get money off the engagement.

[Rory]

I don't know how people fall for the AI videos, though.

[Mall]

Sometimes I fall for them shits.

[Rory]

I have not. I know when it's a. Like, I could. You could just tell.

[Damaris]

Niggas made an AI video of me that pissed me off.

[Rory]

AI video of you?

[Damaris]

Yeah, it was a picture. It's from my. My profile picture on Twitter. And they made it move. Like. They made me, like, brush my hair back and, like, smile and, like, it was so creepy. I was like, please never do this again.

[Mall]

Did you see the AI video from our Lola Brook episode? Oh, yeah.

[Damaris]

When they lock, it's a photo of.

[Mall]

Us, and then randomly, a cop comes in and arrests Small. I was like, what's the. What is the kind. Like, what were they trying to get at?

[Damaris]

I have no idea.

[Mall]

I was like, did we talk about something on that episode where you got. I was so confused by that one.

[Rory]

And that's racist. Lock up the black man.

[Mall]

That is true.

[Damaris]

It was weird.

[Mall]

It's. It's funny how that switched. It was so easy to manipulate kids because they didn't know any better. Now it's so easy to manipulate, like, baby boomers.

[Rory]

Oh, yeah.

[Mall]

Like, it. The roles have completely reversed in that regard. Like, they'll see one thing and make up an entire political opinion based off something that was fake, and it'll just spread like wildfire on Facebook. You can. You can get A baby boomer believe anything.

[Rory]

But, I mean, I. I just don't understand falling for certain things. Like, it's. Sometimes it's like when you see the things people upset about, it's like, there's no way people think that this is real. But people do think a lot of this obvious shit that's fake, they do think is real. And I'm just like.

[Mall]

I don't know.

[Rory]

I just don't understand getting caught out there, like, with skits, like, these people thinking it's real. Like, you think that would be the reaction if somebody caught their fiance at their dead boyfriend's grave site?

[Mall]

And how you know where it's at?

[Rory]

How you. How you know.

[Damaris]

If this was real? He probably has her location.

[Mall]

Yeah, but you're not doing that. If you. If you know somebody got your location.

[Rory]

But if you caught your fiance at your. Her ex's grave site, would you be upset about that?

[Damaris]

She bought, like, wine and they was having a dead date.

[Mall]

Yeah, they was talking. They was catching up.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Mall]

They was reminiscent.

[Damaris]

If you want to go visit them.

[Rory]

That'S gonna let Baby D get dead date off.

[Mall]

I thought it was spot on.

[Damaris]

Yeah, if. If. If you just go to visit them. Like, I. I hear that. Like, but.

[Mall]

All right. Is she like a. Is she a grave digger? Like, does she go to grave sites a lot? Like, if her grandmother's dead. Are you visiting your grandma a lot?

[Rory]

No.

[Mall]

Then, yeah, I'm gonna feel the way that you're going to your ex boyfriend. Like, if that's not your thing already. Like, none of your family members get a visit, but your ex does.

[Damaris]

They didn't love me like he did.

[Rory]

I don't go to grave sites. Like, I don't. I don't go. I saw the Eddie Murphy thing on Netflix and something on there. He was talking about how he's paid for a lot of, like, celebrity funerals, like, friends of his that have passed away. But he has never gone to a funeral.

[Mall]

He's never went to a funeral?

[Rory]

No.

[Mall]

Oh, wow.

[Rory]

Like, he won't go. He'll pay for it, all of that. But he won't. Don't know if he doesn't go. But he does definitely does not go inside the church.

[Mall]

Okay.

[Rory]

Like, he doesn't view the body in the casket. Like, he's not doing that whole thing. And I think I kind of understood that.

[Mall]

Like.

[Rory]

Cause he was saying, like, just the idea of seeing your loved one laying in a casket, he was like, that's kind of like. That's like, a lot like I would rather let them. They pass. Let me just remember them the way I remember them. I don't want to see. Cause seeing your loved one laying in a casket, that's so final. Like, that state of just like them laying there. And I think Eddie was just alluding to, like, he just would rather prefer not see his friends or family that have passed away, like, in a casket. Like. But he'll pay. He has no problem paying. But he's like, not going.

[Mall]

Yeah, I don't think there's anything wrong with that. I know a lot of people that don't go to open casket wakes. Cause they don't want to see it. But we'll just go to the funeral when the casket's closed. Like, I totally get that perspective for sure of. I want to remember them the way I remember them. Not the last fucking flash I have is like, ugh. Like just a lifeless body.

[Rory]

Yeah, that's the one thing I wish I didn't do, was view my brother in the casket.

[Mall]

Yeah, I can imagine.

[Rory]

Like, I would. That's the one thing I'm like, why did I do that? You know what I'm saying? Because he was just such. So full of life. And so to see like the final. That was just like, that's the one thing. And I'm not gonna. I don't know if. No, I'm definitely going to funerals after that, but I don't. But it's definitely changed, like, my way of going. Like, I'll go to a funeral, but I'll sit all the way in the back. Like, I'll be there to show support to the family. But I don't think I've ever really. I don't think I've viewed anybody in the casket since my brother. Yeah, like, that's too. When my homeboy Danny passed away, didn't go up to his casket. I could see him from the back where we were standing. You could see him in the casket. But I refused to walk up to the casket. So I understood what Eddie Murphy was saying. Like, that's just something that I'm just like. I understand why people don't want to see their loved ones in caskets. Like, that's just so final. It's like, first of all, that's not. It doesn't even look like you know what I'm saying. It's like, nah, I can't. But I understood. I understood what he was saying.

[Mall]

Yeah, I was a Paul bearer for Crack when Crack passed away. Yeah. Being a Paul bearer for that was not. Not like my cousin. My cousin's open casket still sits with me. But the just Crack and how young, like, he looked. And having the Paul bearing around the casket for two days straight was like.

[Rory]

How old was it you passed?

[Mall]

Crack was two years younger than me, so 33.

[Rory]

That's how old my brother was when he died.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Rory]

What is it with 33? Like, so many people I know when they died young. Like, looking back, they were 33 when they died.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Like, I just had this conversation with.

[Mall]

Somebody, like 25 Club or 28 Club or something. It's 27.

[Damaris]

7 Club.

[Mall]

Yep, it's 27. But 33. I'm with you too.

[Rory]

That I know so many people that passed when they were 33. Like, it's crazy.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Like, I don't know. Like, that's such like a. I gotta look into that. There has to be, like some articles that. Like, 33 years old. Like, so many people passing it. Well, Jesus. Yeah, he died at 33. There's something. It has to be more to that.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Because when you were saying that just now, I swear something I said, I guarantee you crack was 33. As soon as you were saying that in my head, I was like, I wonder if he was 33. Because just what you were saying, like, yeah. So young. And this time, like.

[Mall]

And to your point, with your brother too, like, I don't know how much time if you. Did you ever meet Crack?

[Rory]

Yeah, but I met him at. Actually not far from here at some pop up that was happening.

[Mall]

Well, his store was.

[Rory]

His storm wasn't far from me.

[Mall]

Yeah. Another just full of life. Like, seeing him that way was it strangest thing outside of obviously him passed at that point, but like, that person being lifeless was like. It was just eerie to even be around, like, loudest, funniest person all the time. And then it's like nothing.

[Rory]

Silence.

[Mall]

Yeah, it's. It's a chilling feeling.

[Rory]

I definitely understood what Eddie Murphy was saying, though.

[Mall]

Yeah. Like, I get it.

[Rory]

But if y' all get a chance, y' all should watch that. Watch the. The Frankenstein movie on Netflix.

[Damaris]

Oh, how was it?

[Rory]

Great. Really?

[Damaris]

Check it out.

[Mall]

How much from the original story is in it?

[Rory]

There's some of it, but this one, they kind of tried to humanize him a little more.

[Mall]

Okay, how did they do that?

[Rory]

Well, you gotta watch it. I don't want to give it away, but it's. You'll enjoy it. It's definitely a movie that you would definitely enjoy.

[Mall]

Who's crazier? What's the professor's guy. What's his name?

[Rory]

Victor Frankenstein.

[Mall]

Yeah. Who do you think. Who do you think was crazier when he was Frankenstein or when he was Victor?

[Rory]

Well, no, Victor Frank is. They're two different people. You talking about the guy who's crazy.

[Mall]

Here is what I'm saying. Yeah.

[Rory]

Well. Well, the. The doctor that made. That created Frankenstein was definitely. They were saying, like, he was definitely, like, Frankenstein took on his energy and his personality. Like. And even his brother, Victor's brother was like, you were the monster.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, so. But it was. It was a really, really good movie. Like, and I. I kept hearing so much about it. I was like, you know what? Let me watch this. And it was really good, though. Yeah, it's long, but it's a good movie.

[Mall]

I think we'll say the same thing.

[Rory]

About Elon, that he's a monster.

[Mall]

Not the Robots he made.

[Rory]

It's gonna be him.

[Mall]

It's gonna be him.

[Rory]

He put his personality.

[Mall]

His likeness was in.

[Rory]

His likeness was in the Robots.

[Mall]

Who's the monster here?

[Rory]

Anthony Joshua, Jake Paul. How you feel about that, Peach? December 19th. I like that better than the. It was Ruiz 2. He was gonna do. Or Diaz. Diaz too.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Yeah. I like Anthony Joshua, Jake Paul more than I like Diaz too.

[Mall]

They just. These random announcements now for fights and cancellations. This is getting kind of crazy. These are like, professionals.

[Rory]

Yeah, but I mean, shit, people understand. Anthony Joshua understand this might be one of his biggest paydays. He ain't. He ain't turning that back down. Yeah, he like, shit, I go fight him.

[Mall]

No, for sure.

[Rory]

You know what I'm saying? Cause, you know, they still look at Jake Paul like he's not a real threat. Yeah, so he, like, for that bag. I'll definitely go fight him now. I do feel like this is probably going to be. Jake Paul's probably his toughest fight. Anthony Joshua, obviously, being young, in great shape, a heavyweight can really box, can hit hard. Yeah, I think this is. I know. You know, when it was Tyson, everybody's like, that's Mike. But it was still, you know, an older version of Mike. Anthony Joshua is still young and in his prime. So this is probably gonna be Jake Paul's toughest fight. We gonna sit here when it comes time for the fight and say, oh, it was Clause. And Anthony Joshua probably couldn't hit him as hard. You know, we gonna put all of that into the conversation. But the fact that, you know, Jake Paul is able to still get these fights booked and obviously on Netflix and still, you know, create this fandom around it. He's a marketing machine man.

[Mall]

Yeah, I mean, I'll be tuned in for sure. I definitely will. I just want the Paul brothers to fight. I think that's just gonna be the end.

[Rory]

That's gonna be they. Finally over. That's the one we get when Jake and Logan fight. Yeah, that should be the name of it. Finally over it. We're finally over this thing.

[Mall]

Well, I am. I am curious how this. The ratings are going to be for this because there was that rumor with Tank and everything that the fight was not properly promoted and they didn't have the same energy they felt for Netflix for that fight. Is it on a decline with these? Again, Paul brothers are marketing geniuses, but all things do eventually start to fall off.

[Rory]

Well, the thing is, you run out of people to fight. Yeah, that's going to be enticing and going to be worth you watching. So I think that's where Jake Paul might be headed with this. You run out of. Now, the Tank thing was interesting because of obviously the size difference, the matchup. Tank being one of the, if not the best fighter in his class, in his division. So that was a little enticing because it was like, okay, when Jake fought Nate Robinson, it was like. Like Nate was smaller than Jake. It was like, Nate is not a boxer. You know what I'm saying? He's an athlete, hell of an athlete. But with Tank, it's like, yeah, he's smaller than Jake Paul, but he's a fucking legit legend in his sport, you know what I'm saying? So.

[Mall]

But. And I'm saying that somebody at their peak size difference is crazy. Jake Paul's a great marketing guy. You have every last thing that could be a home run, and it. It didn't work. And of course, probably other reasons with Tank that they explained, but I don't know. I just think next year I think we're going to see a pretty big decline with these, like, for funsy fights.

[Rory]

As far as, like, people won't be care too much about them.

[Mall]

Of course they'll have people tune in, but I don't think it'll be to the level that it's been for the last two or three years. I mean, we're starting to get a little bit over it. No pun intended.

[Rory]

Not unless you see Terence Crawford versus Jake Paul.

[Mall]

I will be tuning in. I will be right there. I might go to the fight.

[Rory]

If you see fucking. What's my guy's name that Terrence just beat. Your brother fucking Canelo. Yeah, if we see Canelo versus Jake Paul. That's interesting. So there's still. There's a couple fights left that if one of those boxers want to grab a quick bag and just kind of ride off into the sunset, like.

[Mall]

But how far away are we from De La Hoya versus fucking Jake Paul? Paul, like, and. And anyone caring about that.

[Rory]

Yeah, I don't think anybody would care about De La Hoya and Jake Paul. Anthony Joshua vs. Jake Paul's a little more yes in Tyson than for sure. De La Hoya and Jake Paul.

[Mall]

Pete is saying, is Floyd gonna fight Tyson? Was that something they talked about?

[Rory]

I do remember seeing that. That's supposed to be next year, right? Maybe like 20, 26.

[Mall]

Yeah. Nah. But here now I'm starting to think that some of these fights that they announced, like, they'll make money off the marketing and then cancel it. Like, you get a bag just for announcing a fight and then being like.

[Rory]

Yeah, like, yo, my hand.

[Mall]

Yeah, your hand. Something happened.

[Rory]

Yeah, something happened. Tell us what happened. Yeah, something.

[Mall]

Because, I mean, but Floyd will take any fight. He fought John Gotti iv, who was an MMA fighter that decided that, you know, I'll try boxing against Floyd. Yeah, like, did he fight that like 14 year old Asian kid? You remember that Floyd has taken some sick fights, man. And what's so crazy about the Gotti and Mayweather? One, they couldn't even get through the fight without a brawl. Like it ended up just being 14.

[Rory]

He was 20.

[Mall]

Okay. I don't know why.

[Damaris]

Tough shit.

[Rory]

Close enough. Yeah, yeah, Absolutely. Ninja boy was his name. Tension Nasukawa.

[Mall]

I mean, I don't know what. Once the Saudis buy boxing, who knows what the matchups will be.

[Rory]

We gonna be fighting. Have us Roy vs Mall live for.

[Mall]

Vegas, for Saudi money.

[Rory]

Netflix Saudi money. I will hit you with the everything but the kitchen sink for that's out. I won't be mad at all for that Saudi money.

[Mall]

You.

[Rory]

Man, me and Rory are bare knuckle fighting for that Saudi.

[Mall]

You can headbutt me, bite my ear. Every penalty in boxing history. You could.

[Rory]

They put us at the press conference. Y' all want 10 ounces? We can go in there, be knuckle. As long as that check cleared, I wouldn't give a. What we going there for?

[Mall]

Why are we wasting time weighing ourselves? Let's go into the ring today. Tonight, like what?

[Rory]

I'm free tonight. Like, we could go right down.

[Mall]

I don't care about a weight class. Let's just go. All right, you Know, something like that is coming, though.

[Rory]

What? Podcast is fighting.

[Mall]

Yes. That was already gonna happen. But the Saudis just doing what they did with the comedy festival with everything else.

[Rory]

Oh, yeah, Just here, do that thing you do for me.

[Mall]

Here's you money.

[Rory]

Yeah, Yeah.

[Mall]

I think they're just gonna go make me laugh tonight.

[Rory]

Yeah, here's 100 million. Make me laugh, be funny.

[Damaris]

I'm gonna be a whole jester.

[Rory]

What.

[Mall]

What happens when the Saudis start their basketball league?

[Rory]

I'm going wins tryouts.

[Damaris]

When is tryouts?

[Mall]

I'm saying because remember they wait. J.R. smith got a crazy bag from China. Right. Iverson got a pretty good overseas bag. What happens when the Saudis put their bid in and offer some of these NBA players a salary?

[Rory]

They probably do the thing that they did with Liv Golf. Like, once you go playing that you can't come back to the NBA. I can see them doing some shit like that. Like getting some stipulations and clauses on it. Like, all right, cool, go get that bag. But you can't come back. And I don't think any American player is gonna agree to that. Like, it's still the NBA at the end of the day. Like, just that logo is just.

[Mall]

Oh, for sure, for sure.

[Rory]

You know what I mean?

[Mall]

But I don't know. Saudi money different.

[Rory]

No, it's. Listen, it is. But you know, like the NBA superstars, if you say, yo, if you go this summer after the season's over and play in another Saudi tournament because they're paying you 100 million, you can't come back to the NBA. I don't see any NBA players doing that.

[Mall]

That what happens when the South.

[Rory]

LeBron's looking into it. Yeah, he wants to start his own league. No, no, no. Starting your own league and then saying, you can't come back. LeBron is retired. Yeah. Nobody's LeBron can do whatever the he want. Like, he's an NBA legend. He's hall of Famer. He's all of that. Like, I'm talking about guys that are like 23, 24 years old in their prom. They want to go get a bag once the NBA season is over. Because the Saudis said, yo, listen, we'll pay you 100 million for two months to come over here and hoop.

[Mall]

Cool.

[Rory]

I could see the NBA saying, cool, but you cannot come back to the NBA.

[Mall]

Yeah, but then where do you draw the line? Because they allow that with so many other countries. Like, that'd be weird just for. But then again, the NBA has done that just with Chris Paul with the trade.

[Rory]

You can't play in no paid league. Like when you're under NBA contract.

[Mall]

No, but you could leave. You could leave and go play in China and then come back to the NBA.

[Rory]

Not while you have an NBA contract.

[Mall]

J.R. smith came back, right?

[Rory]

He wasn't on NBA contract with nobody.

[Mall]

No, I know, but I'm saying he could still come back to the league. Like it's not like he left the Knicks and while he had a three year contract and went to China.

[Rory]

No, but what I'm saying is, so if NBA player has a contract right now, once the season is over, you still cannot go play in any paid league. Now if you're a free agent, you don't have a contract. That's different. And there's some guys that's like, okay, I'm gonna go pick up this bag and then I sign with a playoff team.

[Mall]

Like.

[Rory]

Cause this, the season over here is over this month. I'll go back to the NBA. I'll be in the free agent pool and probably get picked up by a playoff team.

[Mall]

I thought you were suggesting that once you play in the hypothetical Saudi league, you can never play in the NBA again. Not like, yeah, I can see the NBA standing.

[Rory]

Yeah, I can see the NBA saying for sure.

[Mall]

I'm just saying that if they don't do that with any other country. So it's like just putting it on the Saudis is crazy just cause they have so much fuck you money, but China has fuck you money. They just. Yeah, they throw it around in different places.

[Rory]

But that would be interesting though, like if a guy's a free agent in the NBA and then he says I'm going overseas, like I'm not gonna sign with an NBA team for the two years, I'm gonna go play in the Saudi league. I wonder what the NBA would do about that. Like, they probably would say that, like put a clause on that.

[Mall]

What happens when the Saudis go with all the owners and give them a fuck you money deal?

[Rory]

Oh, now you're gonna do whatever they want you to do.

[Mall]

You gonna go play now the NBA is there.

[Rory]

Yeah, yeah. You gonna go play anywhere they tell you to play at that it would.

[Mall]

Make you a world champ.

[Rory]

Absolutely.

[Mall]

No worry. Now Mo, I have a funny cash app story. I was, I was out over the weekend and I went to split a bill with somebody and I was like, yeah, I'll just, I'll just. Cash app. You make it easy. If you just want to put it on your card. Simple. We all have cash app. It's the best way to go. But they tried to give me a hard time. I think the bill was like $110 and I just sent them 55 bucks. They wanted me to include the cents. They was like, wait, you just sent it even? That's not how the bill it was $110.63. They got mad that I just rounded to 55.

[Rory]

That's somebody you never need to talk to again. No more hanging out.

[Mall]

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[Rory]

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[Mall]

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[Damaris]

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[Rory]

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[Voicemail Caller]

Yo, what's up, pod? Can y' all please help me with this situation? Because I'm truly puzzled. All right, so me and my sister have been debating on whether it's okay for a woman to approach a man. She says, no. No matter the circumstance, the environment, the situation, a woman should never approach a man. And I think the opposite. There's a saying, there's plenty of fish in the sea, but how do you expect to catch a fish if you never go fishing? You know what I mean? And so I liked how she delivered it. Whether you had an event, the club, a concert, wherever, if you see something you like, it's okay to give a little tap, a little hey, a little what's up? I see you, you know, and you leave it at that. Leave the chasing to the man, leave the dates, whatever. I get all that. Leave that to the guy. But as a woman, if you see something that you like, why not go say hi first, baby? D, can you please chime in on whether if it's cool or not? And what situation would it not be cool? I just want to debt this like y'.

[Damaris]

All.

[Voicemail Caller]

Please let me know. Appreciate y'. All.

[Rory]

She sound like the end of the mo the Parker Show. Remember when they shoot? Yeah, used to be like on the Outro or the Parker show. They used to talk like, that's what she sound like. It's like, are you reading that off your phone?

[Mall]

It sounded like a voiceover. It didn't sound like a voiceover.

[Rory]

Definitely reading that. 100. She had that delivery, though.

[Mall]

I liked it.

[Rory]

No, no, I loved it. Like, no, I think it's cool for women to approach as a guy.

[Mall]

I think it's great.

[Rory]

Yeah. I don't think there's anything.

[Mall]

I love when women shoot their shots.

[Rory]

Yeah, it's nothing wrong. I mean, shit, nowadays, y' all might have to. Niggas getting canceled for everything. Harassment. I'm just. I'm just saying we had a moment where it was like, yo, he was flirting with me. It's like, I just said, hello. Like, what the fuck you talking about, flirting with you? Like, so women should. I'm not gonna say approach men, but give the hint that you're not mad if he comes over and decides to talk to you. Like, kind of give that.

[Mall]

Give the reassurance that you're interested as well.

[Rory]

Give that warm. Where it's like, okay, like, she keep looking at me. She's smiling at me. Like, okay, cool. Like, I can go say hello and introduce myself. Like, but, you know, it is. It is. It is a moment where men walking up to women and just start talking. Women would look at you like, you crazy. Like.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Mall]

I also think it's great when women are directing that way, because as men, we're terrible at realizing when we're being flirted with as well. Yeah, there's been plenty of times that one was like, you know, I was, like, trying to flirt with you, like. Or like, I was telling you. Like, I was like, I didn't pick up on that at all.

[Rory]

I thought. Yeah, I thought you just needed directions.

[Mall]

Like, I didn't know.

[Rory]

I didn't know you wanted me. You were flirting with directions to my house.

[Mall]

Like, I didn't even know you knew my name. Like, what the.

[Rory]

Yeah, I mean, but, you know, it's cool. I do. I do. Like, when, you know, a woman is like, yeah, flirting with you, or, like, initiative shot at you, it's like, the conversation could become cool. Cause you can start like, oh, yeah, you trying to holler at me like, you trying to. What you doing? You flirt. Like, I say it. Like, would you flirting with me? Oh, okay. Let me. Let me see what your flir game is like. Like.

[Mall]

But, yes, the male ego is extremely fragile.

[Sponsor Voice]

But.

[Mall]

But so is the female ego, because I've seen plenty of Women that never wanted to be the one to, like, shoot their shot or reach out, and then they try it, reluctantly try it, and then it doesn't go the way that they thought. Yeah, men, we can handle rejection because we have. We get rejected all the time. That's all we know is rejection. Women are not typically rejected. So when you put yourself out there, of course, not every man is. Is no matter who the woman is going to always like you or not. So, yeah, they. They. They get hurt pretty easily when they get rejected.

[Rory]

Do y' all get rejected? How often do you have you been rejected? Baby D?

[Damaris]

I've been rejected once or twice in life.

[Rory]

I was about to say those numbers is crazy.

[Damaris]

No, I mean, like, as in, I.

[Mall]

Was rejected twice a day.

[Damaris]

Shooting. Shooting my shot with a guy. Because I'm. I do that not often, but more often than the average woman. Because I learned a long time ago, my male friends, my brothers, my dad would tell me that men were intimidated by me because I wouldn't get approached as much. And I used to be like, am I ugly? Why the fuck do I not get approached? And they were always just like, no, you have a very strong personality, and if I was not related to you and wanted to date you, I would be terrified to approach you. I would be absolutely terrified. I learned when I would start shooting my shot at men that, oh, they liked me too. They were just afraid to say anything to me because they thought that they were gonna get, like, crushed. They thought I was gonna be rude to them or something like that. So I had to learn to be like, yo, what's up? And I also, like, risen men up. It's mad fun. It's like a game to me.

[Rory]

How are men?

[Mall]

Because it doesn't happen to us often. So we get like.

[Damaris]

Y' all get mad giggly and shy.

[Mall]

Anytime a woman, like, flirts with a few times, like, yeah, it does make you feel better. Not, like, in an egotistical way. She's like, oh, this is cool. This doesn't happen a lot.

[Damaris]

I don't even flirt. She's like, what's up? When we going out? These are the dates. Or I'll just, like. I'll DM you a picture of my calendar and circle the days I'm free.

[Rory]

Nah, see, that's when I'm not fucking with you.

[Damaris]

What?

[Rory]

You send me a calendar with circle. I'm like, yo, who? First of all, are you a doctor? Yo, these are the dates. I'm free. I could fit you in on the 12th.

[Mall]

No, not you.

[Damaris]

Mean, an adult fit you in now, I can fit you in, but what's up? This is when I'm available to see you. Make it happen, niggas make it happen.

[Rory]

Nothing is better than when you flirting with a girl and your shit is working. Like, when your material is hitting. That has to be. When a comic is, like, he's killing a room. It's the same feeling. It's the same dopamine rush.

[Mall]

It's rhythm in motion.

[Rory]

Like, oh, my God, work. Cause then you start planning your next, like, your B move. Like, if this one work, we outta here. I'm asking for the check. We out. That's the greatest feeling in the world when you know a woman is, like, digging you. And the conversation is like. And she's laughing. It's like, damn, my material is landing tonight.

[Mall]

That one comment that puts it over the line. Are we just flirting for the fuck of it, or are we flirting for a purpose? In that conversation, that's when the dopamine hits. Like, oh, nah, she. She really wants to come through.

[Rory]

Yeah, but it's a new type of woman out here, Rory. The woman that your material lands with. And then you, like. Yeah, yeah. You think it's, you know, everything. Grooving. And then she hit you with that question. So, what's your intentions with me? We just met. I don't know. I don't have an answer.

[Damaris]

I don't.

[Rory]

I wasn't expecting the double team. Yeah, like, you brought the defender over. I wasn't expect. Intentions. Don't ask me what my intentions are. We just met. I don't know. I don't know what my tent is over tonight. I don't know where I'm going after this. I don't know. Like, don't ask me my intentions with you. I don't know you. Like, that's.

[Damaris]

I think that's weird. Don't ask me. Like, we just met at the bar yesterday. So what's your intentions with me? That's weird.

[Sponsor Voice]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Like, what you mean, what's my intentions? Because then, if I'm being honest, I'm an asshole.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Mall]

And this is why Damaris was saying we could get robbed so easily. Yeah. We go strangers butts on the first night.

[Rory]

No, no. She coming to my house. I ain't going to her house. You coming to my crib.

[Mall]

That's why.

[Damaris]

Worse.

[Sponsor Voice]

Yep.

[Damaris]

Show is put.

[Mall]

I got exit plan A so bad.

[Damaris]

She put your ass right out. You wake up. Everything gone.

[Rory]

Me, I'm willing to try.

[Damaris]

Easy.

[Rory]

I'm willing to try let's try.

[Mall]

Is it worth some material items? Material items can be replaced.

[Sponsor Voice]

Yeah.

[Mall]

Going experiences.

[Damaris]

You can steal that pearl necklace right.

[Mall]

Off your neck after I give her one like that.

[Rory]

That's called offense. See, you thought the defender coming over was gonna scare Rory. He just went before the double team guy. He just blew past the screen like, yeah, I saw you coming.

[Mall]

And if a woman came to my house and fleeced me, I would have to. I'd call her and say, yo, you keep all that. You're ill. Cause if she got all my shit down all them steps, you deserve it.

[Rory]

What is she gonna take from me? I don't have cash in my crib. I don't have a bunch of fucking jewelry. I don't have.

[Damaris]

Like, you got jewelry? Jewelry, Guns.

[Rory]

You want to take my guns? Like, all right, cool. Like, then what?

[Damaris]

Jewelry and guns? That watch, she could get a little. A nice little piece for that watch.

[Rory]

How she gonna take it? It's gonna be on the nightstand. Like I'm gonna see her. Like, I'm not gonna see my watches gone before she leave.

[Damaris]

She gonna put you down.

[Mall]

His 95s.

[Damaris]

Put you down?

[Rory]

Put me down. Nah, that ain't happening.

[Damaris]

Okay?

[Rory]

I ain't no young nigga. Like that'll happen to a young nigga.

[Damaris]

Old niggas get put down.

[Mall]

I mean. All right, show on the screen. What's her at, though? The deciding factor of this.

[Damaris]

Easy ass.

[Rory]

I just want to see if it'll happen.

[Damaris]

Easy.

[Rory]

See, if a chick.

[Mall]

She got in her eyes on her Instagram.

[Rory]

That's all I could tell in the eyes if she. If she could fleece me, I could tell she would definitely set me up.

[Mall]

If you would let her, is what you did.

[Rory]

Just take me. Do with me as you will.

[Voicemail Caller]

Yeah, okay.

[Mall]

I mean, what would be worse, though, if you like it that much that after she fleeced you, you still wanted a second date.

[Damaris]

You want her to come back like.

[Mall]

Yo, you can lead us. I got another watch.

[Rory]

I Just one you want.

[Mall]

He couldn't find this other one.

[Damaris]

I missed it.

[Rory]

You missed this one? Yeah. This one I hid inside my sneaker box.

[Damaris]

Please.

[Mall]

Now you're doing treasure hunts with her.

[Rory]

You'll never find it. Butt naked in the house. You'll never find it.

[Mall]

That's like couple building to me. Yeah, that's.

[Damaris]

That's.

[Rory]

Yo, put the Rolex box in the bed under the blanket. Like, guess who is that? Come get it. Yeah, you can't play that game with me, baby.

[Damaris]

Just.

[Rory]

I'll have fake watches all over the house, take all the shits. I wouldn't do fake watches. I'll go right to canal and go crazy with the rollies. Like, yo, this shorty coming back, she gonna think she hit the jackpot. I'm in here snoring. All kind of take all that fake.

[Mall]

There was an era when the rope, the fake rollies, look better than the real ones.

[Rory]

Still do. Absolutely still do. That was it. That's the only voicemail we had. Hi. Well, listen, we got through this episode.

[Mall]

Well, I do want to know. Damaris, quickly, before we get out of here. The two times you were rejected, what was like?

[Damaris]

I'm sure it was more than two.

[Rory]

Did you cry?

[Damaris]

Two. I can remember.

[Mall]

How did it make you? Well, first of all, what was your game like? Like, how did you. Same calendar move or.

[Damaris]

No, it was. I had walked up to this guy at a party, and I was like. I think I was like, you had a girlfriend? And he said, unfortunately, I do.

[Mall]

And I was like, that's not rejection.

[Damaris]

Yeah, you were gone. Yeah, that was one time. And then.

[Mall]

That's not being rejected, though.

[Damaris]

That is rejected.

[Mall]

How was that rejection?

[Damaris]

He don't want me. He got a girlfriend.

[Mall]

So you would have preferred if you would been like, no, it's not.

[Damaris]

It's not a per. It's not a preference. I'm not saying that it was a. That he hates me, but it was a rejection. I was rejected.

[Mall]

To me, rejection is where there would have been an actual opportunity to date. Like, if you go. If you go up to a married woman and she's like, no, I'm married. I don't think she just rejected me. I think she's just married.

[Damaris]

Okay, that's your opinion.

[Mall]

But rejection to me is. A single person says, I don't want to date you.

[Damaris]

Oh, yeah, that's. That's happened to me from them. That's happened to me sometimes.

[Mall]

It was the calendar line, wasn't it?

[Damaris]

Huh?

[Rory]

A single person, like, turned you down.

[Damaris]

Yeah, I mean, it's. I'm not. I'm not everybody's cup of tea. I'm way too much for many men. I am a. A lot of women. So a lot of people. Men don't like strong personalities.

[Rory]

You know why?

[Damaris]

For more docile women.

[Rory]

You know why?

[Damaris]

Why? Mall. That's not true.

[Sponsor Voice]

Gay.

[Damaris]

That's not true.

[Mall]

He's quoting half, baby.

[Damaris]

Well, you don't like. You don't like women with, like, personality like mine. You prefer, like, more laid, back, quiet women.

[Rory]

Who told you that? I've dated every Type of woman. Baby D. Okay, well which ones did you prefer? I've dated strong personalities. I've dated more laid back.

[Damaris]

Which ones did you prefer?

[Rory]

It depends on honestly, like looking back, it probably depended on where I was at, like what in my life, like what my energy was like. I've always been laid back, but I had a time where I was definitely more like wild and just like obnoxious too. But now, I mean, strong personalities is probably something that I'm usually more attracted to because I'm more laid back.

[Damaris]

Yeah, it's usually like that.

[Rory]

And if this nigga put too much mayo on my sandwich, I'm not saying nothing. But you can, you know what I'm saying? Like that type of shit. Like, babe, get this na. This nigga put mad mayo on my sandwich. I don't even want to go over.

[Damaris]

The laid back men love me. But I will always go for like the men who had more personality. And they'd just be like, mm, mm, wait.

[Rory]

But just cause you laid back don't mean you don't have no personality.

[Damaris]

No, not like. That's not what I mean. But I mean like, like both of us can't be stars. I always say that there can't be two stars in a relationship. Somebody has to.

[Rory]

Why not? Jay Z and Beyonce seem to be very happy.

[Damaris]

Yes. But guess who took a step back to let the star shine? Who is the star in that relationship?

[Rory]

Personality wise, the woman is always star.

[Damaris]

They're both stars. But personality wise, who's the star star?

[Mall]

But Jay is laid back.

[Rory]

Yeah. By Nate. By nature.

[Mall]

Even though he's a star. But he's a laid back person.

[Damaris]

Exactly.

[Rory]

Yeah, but.

[Mall]

But he didn't become that when he met.

[Rory]

Trying to be a bigger star than Beyonce in a relationship is crazy.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Mall]

You should probably just get out of the relationship.

[Rory]

I'm not even trying to be like, I ain't got nothing for that. But like that's all you. And then. And the woman is the star.

[Damaris]

And yeah, that's. I agree, it should be like that. But there's also many relationships where the woman will take a back seat. Like they have like this big bubbly personality of a man and they'll be more. More laid back. I think that it has to be a balance in that way.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Ego wise as well. Because when you got two people who think the world revolves around them, it's tough to make a relationship work.

[Mall]

So yeah, one person like that is tough to make a relationship out.

[Damaris]

Not exactly. There's relationships that function just fine. Like that.

[Mall]

That you think the world revolves around.

[Damaris]

The world revolves around. Not literally where they're a selfish person, but they're just like. They think the world revolves around them and they have a partner willing to. My longest. Because I thought the world revolved around me, and I had someone whose world also revolved around me. Now, granted, we gave and take in our relationship, but it was. It's just a. It's a different. It's a different dynamic.

[Rory]

Now, the trick is to making your woman feel like the world revolves around her, but she definitely knows that you are the one in control. That's the truth.

[Mall]

Fair.

[Rory]

Like, women know. Like this nigga just letting me run amok and do what I want to do. But I know not to play with this nigga. Like, he ain't. He ain't going for the bullshit.

[Damaris]

And there's also opposite dynamic with that as well, because I've had the opposite dynamic where it's like, okay, sweetheart, you. You run it. Everything is. You control everything. You appear to be this. But we know deep. We know deep down we know.

[Mall]

Just an advice in a relationship. Don't call your boyfriend big man. Because that's only condescending. When you say, you got it. You got it, big man.

[Rory]

Your girl. No one ever said that.

[Mall]

Seriously.

[Rory]

Your girl call you big man. It's another.

[Damaris]

There's something my mother used to say.

[Mall]

You got it, chief.

[Damaris]

Unfortunately.

[Mall]

What did you say to me?

[Damaris]

Unfortunately, I took it. And I've used. I used to hate when she said it when I was younger, but I say it now. Like, when you just see a nigga that's just all that, you be like, all right, Mr. Big Dick, do your thing. Do your thing, Mr. Big Dick. You got it. You got it.

[Rory]

This is how y' all end up on Dateline. You can't do that, Damaris. You can't play that game with niggas.

[Sponsor Voice]

You got it.

[Damaris]

You. You that like, you. I. When niggas think they. That, it's like, okay, you. That.

[Rory]

That is cr. Crazy. You can't do that. Don't do that, Baby D, please. We love you too much. Don't do that. And I don't want to have to kill nobody. So there you go.

[Damaris]

What's. What?

[Mall]

Summer said finally over it.

[Damaris]

Don't make me do it.

[Rory]

Listen some, I love you, but you better not give us another over it. I know that.

[Damaris]

I think the next series is going to be triggered, triggered, triggered.

[Mall]

It's a pretty good prediction. I'm not mad at that.

[Damaris]

Yeah, I was finally over. But now triggered.

[Rory]

She about to be in a. Did we wait. Did we just witness Summer's villain origin? Is she not gonna become the. Like, just crush every man she ever comes across?

[Mall]

I mean, she kind of tore London up on the second album.

[Rory]

Yeah, that was emotion. Yeah, but that wasn't.

[Mall]

I'm not calling her a villain because I know it's accountability on both sides. But she tore his ass up on that album. Like, yeah, that was more villain.

[Damaris]

He couldn't get up. Not being able to get up to your own production is crazy. Like having your foot on your neck. Somebod neck to your own.

[Rory]

You made this music. This is your tunes.

[Mall]

Tear me up on my fight back.

[Rory]

Like, what you doing?

[Mall]

Like, we are debating child support and pub splits.

[Rory]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, that's. That is a. That's a crazy position to be in.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Mall]

I mean, I don't know. I feel like. Do we think Meech was the one that just. That. That got her to here? And again, I love this album. We all do love. We do love. Daddy hurt. Summer is our favorite, but I feel like she was.

[Rory]

People say that that's crazy. Like, when you hurt so and so is our favorite.

[Mall]

Up Selfish thing fans can do. But we do love. No, it makes for summer music for sure. My thing is. Do you think that had to been the final stroll, though, when Meech said that was my cousin?

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Rory]

They was together after that. They were spotted.

[Mall]

I would be like, oh, I'm over this at this point.

[Rory]

They were spotted.

[Mall]

Excuses.

[Rory]

They were spotted together after. After that. They definitely. No. Well, they probably were too, but no, me and Summer. They was definitely spotted together after that.

[Damaris]

It was his smart when he said he was. I can't. My cousin running groceries in the house.

[Mall]

It's a fair point.

[Damaris]

Like you excuse.

[Mall]

It's real strict in this relationship. I can't even help my cousin. Yeah, it's crazy.

[Rory]

Wow. Who gonna carry all these bags? It's my cousin.

[Damaris]

What's the worst divorce lie you ever told mom?

[Rory]

That I ever told the worst one.

[Damaris]

Where you just like, you got. You was caught up quick and you just had to throw something out there.

[Mall]

Here.

[Rory]

Damn. What was the worst lie for told? I think I probably killed a relative that was. Well, re. Killed a relative. It was already dead. But I was like, yo, my cousin.

[Mall]

Like, hopefully they don't catch you at the grave site and look at the date. Yeah, I feel like. Wait, hold on.

[Rory]

Yeah, I think probably something like that. Like, I probably threw death on the cousin that was already dead. Like, something like that. That.

[Mall]

But that's fine.

[Damaris]

No, it's not fine.

[Rory]

Oh, no, that's probably the worst. But looking back, it's like, that was unnecessary. That was stupid. When I.

[Mall]

When I passed. And I hope it's in a long time, but when I pass, I. I give all my friends and family free range to kill me as many times as you want. Put crimes on me, do anything that you want with my name and death to help yourself. I'm totally cool with that. If you're facing 30, put that. Here's my social.

[Rory]

Yeah, I did it. I did put it on me, man. It's fucking me. But, yeah, that's probably it. I was never really into that. Honestly, I never played that lying game like that. Now it was girls that I liked that I dated. I got caught up, you know, flirting with another girl or another. And then I just had to, like, say something to get out of it. But, like, I was never, like, really into that, though.

[Mall]

Like, he was just fucking them girls. She was gonna get right back.

[Rory]

Yeah, pretty much. But that's why I never had bad relationships with women. Like, that's why women I dated to this day, for the most part, me and all of them are like, still, if we see each other, we not. I'm not in communication with every woman I ever dated. But, like, if we was to see each other, it's still, like, not even boost.

[Mall]

Mo has that unlimited dad that you.

[Rory]

Too much. That's too much. Moose can't cover that. But yeah, that's why. Because I never was really into, you know, playing the manipulation game and lying and women like that. I never played that game like that warriors worst lie.

[Mall]

I. I told it on, I think a few episodes ago when I called the Uber and, oh, yeah, my phone was on my chest and I said, well, my man's was text. Oh, yeah, Yeah, I was in sleep. I had. I had nothing. And then when it left my mouth, I was like. That didn't even make sense halfway when it was coming out of my mouth, I couldn't even. I was like, what am I saying right now?

[Damaris]

I pin every on like, as every is Rory's friend. I'd be like, that's Rory friend.

[Mall]

But that's what you're supposed to do with me.

[Damaris]

Yeah, that's Rory friend. I know him from, like, we working out. Oh, I've been working on Rory's album for years. No, we're talking about the album. We working on Rory's album.

[Mall]

Everyone.

[Damaris]

Rory's albums. I've the Texting me is working out Rory's album.

[Mall]

She ain't been in the studio once. Yeah, I invited her to Jazzy. She didn't go, but she probably told somebody she was with me.

[Rory]

Yeah, I don't know how to turn the soundboard on none of that. She's lying. Like, oh, no, that was something that W said in one of his songs. Before we get out of here. I started laughing while they said something to the fact like, yo, it's always somebody birthday. Like his chick keep going out. Well, he was like, yo, it's always somebody's birthday.

[Mall]

And what's funny is.

[Rory]

Cause women love that. You know, we going out tonight, so and so birthday. Stop playing with me.

[Mall]

Yo, my issue with you, you don't.

[Rory]

Got that many friends.

[Mall]

And we can table this for a further conversation, maybe Patreon in the next episode. But that's not the red. The red flag is when they're telling the truth. Why? You know these many hoes? Like, this many hoes every. Yeah. You are going to a birthday every night. Why?

[Rory]

Right?

[Mall]

That's not your friend.

[Damaris]

Birthday dinners be lit. Birthday dinners be lit.

[Rory]

Be lit.

[Damaris]

Huh?

[Mall]

What's that girl's last.

[Rory]

You know what else is gonna be lit?

[Mall]

Tell me her name. Not her Instagram name.

[Sponsor Voice]

Huh?

[Mall]

Like, tell me her real name. Not her Instagram. That's not your friend. You at every birthday?

[Rory]

No. You about to open up a whole nother conversation.

[Mall]

That's what I'm saying. We should table this.

[Rory]

Women don't be having friends.

[Damaris]

Oh, my God.

[Mall]

That is a perfect way to end.

[Rory]

Yeah. Like, y' all got acquaintances. Y'.

[Damaris]

All.

[Rory]

Y' all got girls that y' all know.

[Mall]

That's too good of a topic.

[Rory]

But y' all don't. And, and, and we gonna get outta here on this. Y' all have friends, but they ain't. That ain't the girls y' all be in the clubs with.

[Mall]

No.

[Damaris]

Well, no, because you can have.

[Mall]

You don't even celebrate your real friend the way you do that hoe you know, from the club.

[Damaris]

Because some people are better for certain things. I have close friends that I wouldn't take to the club with me, cuz they don't know club etiquette, and they're not club people. And then I have close friends.

[Rory]

What is club etiquette? Cause these niggas are all doing anything in the club.

[Mall]

Josh, I'll be writing all these down.

[Rory]

What is club etiquette? Etiquette. Listen, we ain't gonna get out of here, but let's we're gonna get back to that next episode. What is club etiquette? Because none of y' all and don't have club etiquette. The I see online no etiquette. The that y' all wear to dinner before y' all go to the club. You not even why are you in this restaurant with that on?

[Mall]

Oh, I hate club etiquette is oxymore like that doesn't even what etiquette is.

[Rory]

In the club, you can do whatever the you want. What is club etiquette? But we'll get back to that. Don't answer that. We'll get back to that. All right, y'. All. We'll talk to y' all soon. Be safe, be blessed. I'm that he just ninja New veneers on the way.

[Damaris]

True new warrior now.

[Mall]

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