Episode 426 | Pizza Hut

Summary

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New Rory & Mal – Episode 426 | "Pizza Hut"

Release Date: November 25, 2025
Hosts: Rory & Mal (featuring Damaris)
Podcast Description: New stories, laughs, and random hot takes with Rory & Mal.

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Episode Overview

This post-Thanksgiving episode serves up an energetic blend of personal updates, music debate, messy celebrity relationship drama, and humorous listener interactions. The crew reflects on Thanksgiving plans, dissects viral internet moments (notably the Summer Walker/Pizza Hut saga), reviews Complex’s "50 Best Albums of the 21st Century" list, and closes with candid, often hilarious advice to listeners. As always, the tone is playful, irreverent, and deeply rooted in hip-hop and pop culture.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

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1. Thanksgiving Recap and Personal Updates

[03:22 – 10:12]

• Rory jokes about his imminent dental upgrades, saying, “I’m going to two different houses for Thanksgiving. I’m gonna do a little teeth tour.” (03:41)
• Damaris vents about the relentless work of hosting Thanksgiving: “Everybody gets excited about Thanksgiving—I cook every year. There’s nothing exciting… I barely eat on Thanksgiving.” (06:38)
• Holiday travel woes and the pain of last-minute flights, with talk of a looming "winter vortex" heightening the stress.
• Discussion of being vegan at family gatherings; Mall admits to having recently broken vegan protocol for a slice of NY pizza: “I’m from New York, man. You can never give up New York pizza.” (06:03)
• Thanksgiving food debates: Rory defends ham as a vital (annual) side, comparing ham-lovers to “cigarette smokers” in the modern age. (07:54)

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2. Brandy, Monica & Kelly Rowland Concert Adventure

[11:14 – 19:00]

• Rory and Damaris share their escapades at the Brandy & Monica concert, including brushing shoulders with Patti LaBelle (“Patti LaBelle walked past me and her leg brushed my leg—I almost passed out…” – Damaris, 13:19).
• Emotional highlights: Damaris gets teary hearing her top 10 songs live, and both hosts agree Kelly Rowland left a powerful impression.
• Starstruck moments: Rory fanboys hard upon meeting J.D. Williams (Bodie from "The Wire"): “I was definitely fangirling a little bit … maybe put my hand on my heart.” (16:14)
• Backstage shenanigans: Suite-hopping and accidentally ending up in Mona Scott’s suite, joking they're auditioning for "Love & Hip Hop New Jersey."

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3. The Ja Rule “Fight” at the Brandy & Monica Show

[19:17 – 27:32]

• Discuss the viral report of Ja Rule getting “jumped” at the Barclays show (not Newark, as they attended).
• Rory breaks down the facts: "Ja Rule did not say who it was or why. He just said ... some dudes tried to jump him. No one really got the best of anybody." (22:07)
• They lampoon the idea of older R&B crowds fighting: “This wasn’t the YN's. There were no shiestys in the building... faces were out, cologne and perfume, everyone looking up.” (26:20)
• Clear up rumors about Max B’s alleged involvement (he wasn’t there).
• Agree that neither 50 Cent nor Max B were involved, with Rory noting, “I think Ja knew who it was, but he didn’t say.”

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4. Concert Recap: Who Had the Better Set—Brandy or Monica?

[27:54 – 31:21]

• Both Damaris and Rory refuse to say who “won,” but Rory leans Brandy, recounting her opening with "Wanna Be Down" as “a tough night” for Monica to follow. (28:34)
• Fun digression about Monica’s iconic white sandals and 90s R&B style.

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5. “Best Albums of the 21st Century” – Complex’s Controversial List

[31:40 – 43:49]

• The hosts react to Complex’s ranking of Kanye’s "My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy" as #1:
  • Rory supports it: "My generation, '88 to '93 babies, that's like a biblical album." (34:43)
  • Mall prefers Jay-Z’s "Blueprint" or 50 Cent’s "Get Rich or Die Tryin’."
• Damaris and Rory call out the disrespect of Usher’s "Confessions" being ranked 34: “That needs to be closer… Having Confessions at 34 is insane.” (35:42)
• Disagreements around the inclusion of SZA’s "SOS" over "Ctrl," Playboi Carti, and Tyler’s albums.
• Nostalgic reflection on the powerhouse music year of 2011: “2011 might be an underrated year that we don’t bring up.” (41:48)
• Insight into the criteria for the list, with Complex leaning more "culturally relevant" than musically comprehensive.

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6. Sampling, Credits & WhoSampled.com

[52:35 – 58:49]

• Rory praises WhoSampled, recently acquired by Spotify, and discusses how discovering samples introduced him to new music (“The amount of artists, albums…I've discovered because hip hop producers sampled them, I couldn’t even tell you.” – 57:43)
• Mall shares a story: “My homegirl that’s autistic can hear shit and tell you the sample, what year it came out…” (53:15)
• Both advocate for proper artist credit, referencing Smokey Robinson’s openness to being sampled, with Mall saying: "Let these younger generations, let them use it. My music lives forever." (58:12)

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7. The Summer Walker / Pizza Hut Voicemail & Rich the Kid Drama

[59:35 – 75:51]

• Deep-dive into leaked voice notes & DMs revealing a messy love triangle among Summer Walker, Rich the Kid, and his fiancée Tori Brixx.
  • Damaris as transcription queen, reading the actual Shade Room transcript: “I want you to be with your family… I just want to f--- with you. You can save my number as Pizza Hut.” (61:15)
  • Mal: “We all need a chick like Summer.” (63:31)
  • Both women defending Rich on social media—Rory: “Both women are defending him in this entire thing... He’s the illest of all time.” (71:18)
  • They crown Rich the Kid a future legend for this play, joking about how Summer’s unapologetic personality only boosts her appeal: “She’s devious. Her brain works different.” – Rory (67:43)
  • Damaris: “Another reason why people love Summer and Sza is because of their imperfections and honesty.” (74:12)
• Discussions center on the shifting narratives of R&B women, double standards, and social media’s role in celebrity drama.

Notable Quote

"Nice titties, big butt, stole my name under Pizza Hut. Twice a year, didn’t even nut. Summer is sick."
– Mall (74:54)

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8. Listener Voicemails: Being a Stand-Up Guy, DM Etiquette, & New York Stereotypes

[91:16 – End]

• One listener asks about DM etiquette, accusing Mall of being in his girlfriend’s DMs “for years.” Hilarious debate ensues about how men and women interpret DM activity.
  • Damaris calls out the fine line: “If you like the photo, you could just hit the little, like, button…but you know that goes to my DMs…” (97:39)
  • Rory: “If your girl is replying, now I'm mad—and I'm not mad at you.” (102:43)
• A self-described Southern listener asks curious questions about New York stereotypes—rats, living over pizza shops, high rent, etc.
  • Both hosts confirm: “It’s all real. Everything you’ve seen on shows and films, it’s all real.” (108:42) Rory adds stories of rats “the size of dogs” above his first Jersey City apartment.

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• Rory on Thanksgiving and his teeth:
  “I’m going to two different houses for Thanksgiving. Like, I’m gonna do a little teeth tour.” (03:41)

• Damaris on holiday labor:
  “I barely eat on Thanksgiving. I eat leftovers the next day.” (06:50)

• Mall on cheese pizza and being vegan:
  “You can never give up New York pizza. That’s like something that you can’t get away from.” (06:03)

• Damaris on brushing past Patti LaBelle:
  “Patti LaBelle walked past me and her leg brushed my leg—I almost passed out.” (13:19)

• On Ja Rule’s “fight”:
  “Ja Rule did not say who it was or why they did it. He just said just randomly... tried to get sucker-punched and jump him. No one really got the best of anybody.” – Rory (22:07)

• Mall on Thanksgiving crowd at Brandy & Monica:
  “This wasn't the YN’s. There was no shiestys in the building. Everybody's face is out in the open... got cologne, perfume, smelling good…This isn't a jump-this-nigga-tonight audience.” (26:20)

• Debating the best album since 2000:
  “My generation, '88 to '93 babies, that's like a biblical album.” – Rory, on “My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy” (34:43)

• Damaris on Usher’s “Confessions” placement:
  “That needs to be closer [to #1] because having Confessions at 34 is insane.” (35:42)

• On sampling:
  “Let these younger generations, let them use [my music]. My music lives forever.” – Mall (58:12)

• Summer Walker / Pizza Hut voicemail, Damaris reading:
  “I just want you to be with your family. I just want to f--- with you... You could buy me a new phone... and save it under Pizza Hut for all I care.” (61:15)

• Mal on Rich the Kid’s game:
  “This nigga is putting up legendary numbers. You treat me good, I treat you so good. I know what that means.” (66:09)

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Timestamps for Major Segments

• [03:22] Thanksgiving chat, teeth, family plans
• [06:31] Damaris on cooking and cleaning every year
• [11:14] Brandy & Monica concert recap
• [13:19] Damaris’ Patti LaBelle “almost faint” moment
• [19:17] Ja Rule “fight” at Barclays vs. Newark
• [27:54] Brandy vs. Monica debate
• [31:40] Reaction to Complex’s Best Albums list
• [41:48] Deep dive into 2011 as an amazing music year
• [52:35] Sampling, WhoSampled.com, credits
• [59:35] Summer Walker / Rich the Kid / Pizza Hut saga
• [74:12] The modern R&B “imperfect heroine” (Summer & Sza on relatability)
• [91:16] Voicemails: Stand-up guy, DM etiquette, NY stereotypes
• [108:42] Are NYC stereotypes true? Yes—rats, pizza shop apartments, rent
• [110:54] Closing Thanksgiving wishes

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Summary Judgment

This episode delivers true-to-form New Rory & Mal: unpredictable, insightful, deeply pop-culture literate, and always a little messy. Whether discussing teeth, turkey, or tangled DMs, the crew blends music nerdiness, personal confessions, unexpected social debates, and punchy commentary on the internet's latest scandals. A must-listen for fans wanting a comedic yet real-time snapshot of music and New York culture in late 2025.

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Transcript

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[Rory]

It is.

[Mall]

How you feeling?

[Rory]

I'm okay, you know.

[Mall]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. We not doing.

[Rory]

I get my teeth on Wednesday.

[Mall]

No, we not doing. Okay. New teeth come in.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mall]

So how do you feel about having these temps for Thanksgiving dinner? Are you giving us kind of like taking the car. New car out for a drive and.

[Rory]

I'm going to two different houses for Thanksgiving. Like, I'm gonna do a little teeth tour. Little teeth tour. We gonna stop at everyone's house smiling. Happy Thanksgiving.

[Mall]

So you showing the new teeth to everybody? The whole family. It's like when you first had Amara. Like, you take Amara, it's the same thing.

[Rory]

It's the same thing.

[Mall]

You got new teeth, you gotta take. Take the teeth out for a spin.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mall]

Yeah. Everyone's gotta have confidence with everybody.

[Rory]

Everyone has to take photo teeth.

[Mall]

Yeah. Smiles. Thanksgiving smiles. So you got your new Hollywood smile for Thanksgiving. That the timing couldn't have been better. Rory.

[Rory]

Yeah, I hope. I didn't really ask the full process. I know. They just have to take the temps out and pop those back in. I hope they don't have to, like, nub my mouth like they did last time. They will, because I. But they didn't do it when they put the temps in. Just when they. They drilled my teeth down.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Rory]

I don't know. Either way, as long as I look good, that's it.

[Mall]

That's. That's all that matters. As long as you can smile, pretty man, that's all that matters.

[Rory]

If I have to sip a gravy through a straw, so be it.

[Mall]

It is what it is.

[Rory]

That's. That's what comes with. With the price of beauty.

[Mall]

Absolutely.

[Rory]

So how are you, though?

[Mall]

I'm great, man.

[Rory]

You going out of town? You staying in town?

[Mall]

Yeah, I think I'm going to go out of town, see the family.

[Rory]

Okay.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Haven't booked your flight yet?

[Mall]

Do that today?

[Rory]

Okay.

[Mall]

I was waiting till tonight to do that, so.

[Rory]

Yeah, I, I hate traveling on the holidays.

[Mall]

I do too.

[Rory]

I, I, I can't stand that entire process.

[Mall]

And they say we're getting like a winter vortex.

[Rory]

Oh, yeah, I did see that. Yeah.

[Mall]

You know when I see shit like.

[Rory]

That, I like a vortex.

[Mall]

Cancel everything. Like, Thanksgiving is canceled. I seen the winter vortex was coming. I was like, what date is it land?

[Rory]

Well, I feel like you should have your vegans should have their plans for Thanksgiving set at least, like, two months in advance so people can prep. Like, you can't just pop up on a house and be a vegan.

[Mall]

Yeah, I can.

[Rory]

They gotta prep for you.

[Mall]

You think my family don't know I'm vegan?

[Rory]

Yeah, but you said you may go see them. Yeah, like, they need time to prep for the vegan.

[Mall]

No, not really. Just get a bunch of veggies and sides. I'm good. That's all you got to really do.

[Rory]

Fair enough.

[Mall]

Veggies and sides. That's all I need. Anything else is, like, I don't need that. I don't eat that stuff.

[Rory]

Did you, did you tell your sponsor that you ate cheese pizza two weeks ago?

[Mall]

My sponsor?

[Rory]

Your vegan sponsor?

[Mall]

These things. Like, I was like a crazy, like, meat eataholic or some like that. I have a vegan sponsor.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mall]

No. And I'm a vegan.

[Rory]

Did I snitch? I'm sorry, I didn't mean to snitch.

[Mall]

No.

[Rory]

The vegan community. Okay. Does that, like, mess with your stomach if you don't eat for a while?

[Mall]

Not as much as it used to.

[Rory]

Okay.

[Mall]

Like, now it's not much of a difference. Like, and I don't, I don't go crazy on it. Like, I had one slice. I'm from New York, man. You can never give up. Like, New York pizza. Like, that's like something that you can't get away from.

[Rory]

Yeah. I don't get it.

[Mall]

And I'm not vegan because of, like, religious beliefs or nothing like that. Like, I don't, people don't understand that. I just, Yeah, I was never really into, like, I gave up red meat years ago. Almost 20 years ago.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Rory]

You still hate the environment?

[Mall]

I hate the environment.

[Rory]

It's not like you're doing it before.

[Mall]

St. Paul's yeah, but yeah, it's not religious.

[Rory]

Damaris, you going? Going upstate.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Up to Canada.

[Damaris]

Haha. I'm going to Syracuse. Yes.

[Rory]

Okay. You seem thrilled.

[Damaris]

I have to cook. Everybody gets excited about Thanksgiving I cook every year. There's nothing exciting about, like, Thanksgiving. Like, I gotta make a whole bunch of host a whole bunch of people clean up before they get there, clean up when they leave.

[Rory]

Wait, you. You cook and clean?

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Rory]

That's crazy. I feel like that should be. Whoever cooks doesn't have to clean, in my opinion.

[Damaris]

Yeah, it doesn't work like that. The same person that's cooking is gonna be the same person cleaning. So I don't really enjoy things. I like seeing everybody together and eating, but it's not really a thing where I'm like, I can't wait for Thanksgiving. I can't. I barely eat on Thanksgiving. I eat leftovers the next day.

[Rory]

While you're cooking what's on the the menu.

[Damaris]

I'm doing it simple this year. Just turkey, ham, Mac and cheese, yams, collard greens, green beans and potatoes, potato salad.

[Mall]

It's a light day. That's like when yogic have 30, 20, and 20. He be at the press conference.

[Damaris]

Like, I usually do way more. Like, I usually do way more desserts. I usually do a. Like a red meat, too. Like, I'm not doing all that. Real simple.

[Mall]

You got it. This year, when they come, when they send a double team, you got the B package ready. You don't eat that no more. We got this in the oven on the way.

[Rory]

I appreciate that you're still keeping ham alive. I feel like a lot of people have taken ham out of their Thanksgiving routine, and I don't like it because I love him.

[Damaris]

I don't eat it, but I make it for everybody.

[Mall]

Ham eaters are like, cigarette smokers still.

[Rory]

Do not land it.

[Mall]

Weed is legal now. If I see anybody smoking a cig, I'm like, bro, you know, you could go get the zy. Smoke it right here on this corner.

[Rory]

Cigarettes and weed are totally different.

[Mall]

It is. Weed is better.

[Rory]

No, I completely agree.

[Mall]

I'm not a Cigarette smokers were only smoking cigarettes because they couldn't smoke weed publicly.

[Rory]

Really?

[Mall]

That was just my always my thought. Like, you only doing that because you can't smoke weed.

[Rory]

Oh, I thought maybe they were just addicted to nicotine.

[Mall]

Yeah. I mean that. Well, now. Yeah. But I'm just saying, like, now that weed is legal, why are you still smoking cigarettes? You can smoke weed right now in front of police in New York City. In Manhattan.

[Rory]

Yeah. Dip it in angel dust. Have a blast.

[Mall]

Well, no, we not going. Please don't do that. I'm not. That's. That's your. That's the way you do Thanksgiving. I Don't want. No. No blunt dipped and nothing. That's your Thanksgiving. You want to trip out, do your thing. But yeah, ham eaters are like cigarette smok to me. It's like, bro, we. We so advanced as a people, you know, as a society. You don't have to eat.

[Rory]

I mean, not like, not like deli ham, but like honey glaze that I rarely have it, but I like to have it on Thanksgiving. That's not like, like, not. It's not in my rotation the way.

[Mall]

Chicken once a year. Yeah, the once a year thing for you.

[Rory]

Yeah. Ham is. Is delicious. Yeah, but nobody's just cooking a ham on a Tuesday. Like, no, that. That's. That's angel dust behavior, in my opinion.

[Mall]

Absolutely. But 100.

[Rory]

Well, happy Thanksgiving to everyone. Even if we don't agree with the holiday, at least we agree. Everyone can just come together.

[Mall]

Come together as a community, as a family and sit down and have dinner. Nobody be on their phones. Let the kids put the iPads away. Everybody talk about the year so far and just have, you know, some family time.

[Rory]

I do like the pressure of the no pressure of Thanksgiving. That's why it is one of my favorite holidays.

[Mall]

What is the no pressure?

[Rory]

Like that? It's not gifts. It's not like you have to do specific things like Christmas time. December, you have to go to Christmas tree lightings and everything for the kids and this and that. Thanksgiving, unless you're damaris, you just show up and you chill and you eat.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Rory]

And then it's one day and it's over. It's not going to stretch this whole out. Like, yeah, Christmas. It's not Thanksgiving Eve.

[Mall]

Like, yeah, Christmas is the barometer to know if you're like, a good dad for sure. Like, how good of a dad are you? How many presents did you.

[Rory]

Yeah, it's. It's. You find out what your actual purpose really is for this family is just to provide material, spend money, and that's it.

[Mall]

Buy gifts and shower me with love and gifts and. And then get out. That's what Christmas is all about. Looking forward to it. We are back, sponsored by Boost Mobile. Unlimited talk, text and data for $25 a month. Rory.

[Rory]

Yes.

[Mall]

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[Rory]

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[Mall]

Listen, man, everybody gets a deal. Look at you. Look at us. Deals for everybody. See that new athletic shirt you got on?

[Rory]

Yeah. It's a little exclusive piece. You don't even. They don't even.

[Mall]

Ain't even out yet. They ain't even out.

[Rory]

Don't even know about that.

[Mall]

I ain't even hit the streets yet. Wait till they see when that hits the streets.

[Rory]

Worn by not an athlete.

[Mall]

Yeah, no, nothing athletic about it. That will get everything but athletes.

[Rory]

This is what being full of looks like.

[Mall]

Yeah, yeah, absolutely. It just sounds good. It looks good.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Me and Damaris had a little weekend. Yeah, we stepped out.

[Mall]

That's why she late today. No, I thought she was hungover again.

[Rory]

No, still hungover from a Friday concert is kind of crazy on a Monday.

[Mall]

That. That recovery time is about 48 hours now, the older you get. That is true. You need two days of darkness in the craving. And just, like, hydrate. That's what you need. Close them shades. Cut the TV off, Cut the lights off. And let me just stay under this cover.

[Rory]

Yeah, well, yeah, we stepped out a little Friday night. Brandy Monica at the Prudential Center. It was. It was a night.

[Mall]

How was.

[Rory]

Was a. It was a great bonding time with Damaris. Okay. Sometimes because we've. We've worked together so long, I forgot that we're friends sometimes. And, yeah, it felt like the old days of me and Demer stepping up.

[Mall]

How was the show?

[Rory]

It was incredible. Yeah, it was absolutely incredible.

[Mall]

Was Brandy's Michael.

[Rory]

Yes, it was Michael. Yes. So Brandy both working tremendously. Kelly Rowland's mic was definitely on that. I just want to go back to that show just to see Kelly again. I'll be quite honest.

[Damaris]

I'm not gonna lie.

[Rory]

Kelly went nuts.

[Damaris]

Kelly had me crying. Well, actually, why were you crying?

[Mall]

Yo, yo, hold up, hold up, hold up, hold up. What's up with Baby D?

[Damaris]

No to cry.

[Mall]

That Gunner show. Now you crying at Brandi Monica when Kelly is out. Like, what's up with you? You going through something like, just stay home. Get that crying shit out at the house.

[Damaris]

I did cry a lot on Mariah the Scientist. Cause. Cause Thug was free and Mariah was crying.

[Mall]

You cried. Cause Thug was free.

[Damaris]

Cause Mariah was crying. I was at the Mariah show when Thug, the day Thug got out and she was crying, so I cried with her. Cause I was happy.

[Rory]

You cried for the guy that put him in there too.

[Mall]

You cried for the nigga that snitched on him. You cried. You cried for the guy that snitched on Thug. Then you cried when Thug got out. Like, yo, now you crying at Kelly's show, like, what's up with you, yo?

[Damaris]

Well, first of all, two of my. Like, if you were to ask me my top 10 favorite songs, bad Habit by Destiny Shaw, which is really. Bad Habit by Kelly, and angel in Disguise by Brandy, are in my top 10 favorite songs of all time. So to hear both of those songs live and one night, it was too much. It was very emotional.

[Mall]

Too much sensory overload.

[Damaris]

I was very emotional.

[Mall]

The feels. You was feeling everything.

[Damaris]

Also, Patti LaBelle walked past me in her leg, brushed my leg and almost passed out. And I'm not easily star struck. I told Rory, I've met a lot of celebrities in my life. I'm not starstruck.

[Mall]

Patti LaBelle, you fumbled the pack. You should have asked her for some of the pies. You know she had them.

[Damaris]

She didn't.

[Mall]

The pies was backstage.

[Damaris]

The pods were nothing.

[Mall]

Thanksgiving is this week. If you think. If you think Queen Patty didn't have the work on her. She had the bricks in the car.

[Rory]

It's on her rider.

[Mall]

You kidding me? You think she had the bricks on her? You know how them shits is. Some shits is going like crack in the hood.

[Damaris]

Yeah, yeah.

[Mall]

You supposed to ask Queen Patty for a pie. Man, you over there about to pass out, she fumbling the pack. You should have, like, Ms. Patty. I know it's one back there.

[Damaris]

They would have kicked me clean. They would have, like, who let her in here?

[Mall]

Nah, they would have blown her.

[Damaris]

Who let her backstage?

[Mall]

She would have gave the head nod to security. They would have sent you to the back like, yo, go pick that up.

[Damaris]

Cool.

[Rory]

Pick that up. Yeah, Tell them Patty sent you.

[Mall]

Tell them Patty sent you.

[Rory]

Call town to Harlem.

[Mall]

Tell him Patty sent you. Tell her it's August. She's gone to November. Look, she was right back in November.

[Rory]

That's true.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Where was I? In the bathroom when you saw Patty backstage.

[Damaris]

No, you had went to go past.

[Mall]

Oh, y' all was backstage. Oh, you ain't giving me that. See, y' all didn't tell me y' all was backstage.

[Rory]

Listen, man, I forgot. You know, sometimes you just.

[Mall]

It's the teeth. It's the teeth. My bad. I forgot who you were.

[Rory]

I wasn't on the list. I just smiled at security, and they was like, oh, he must be. Give him a sticker.

[Damaris]

You him.

[Mall]

That's him. Give him a sticker he has new teeth. Give him a sticker. He must be performing with that smile. He better be on stage tonight. There's no way. He's just a patron of the show. Not with that smile. Not with that smile.

[Rory]

I believe that's Paul McCartney, who's about to do the The Girl Is Mine with them.

[Damaris]

Yo, I'm in the bathroom. I'm in the bathroom. I'm vlogging, right? I'm in the bathroom.

[Mall]

You vlog us.

[Rory]

So. But listen, listen. Wipe your butt first.

[Damaris]

So I'm vlogging right in the bathroom. All I hear is, ro. Rory. Like, nah, man. It's an honor. For real love. It's an honor. It's an honor. So I'm on the vlog. Like, y', all, let me go see who it's an honor for Rory to meet.

[Mall]

Like, let me go see who is an honor. Let me go see who he's honoring.

[Rory]

Yeah, whose family?

[Mall]

Who's a legend outside the bathroom? He was acting like homie and coming to America. Remember when you saw Prince hakeem at the St. John's game? That was you?

[Rory]

Most definitely me. I cannot believe it.

[Mall]

Who did he see?

[Rory]

J.D. williams. Bodhi from the Wire.

[Mall]

Respect.

[Rory]

Yeah, yeah.

[Mall]

Respect on the. Respect.

[Rory]

And I. I didn't know he listened to the show because he said, what's up? First I was coming out the bathroom and heard my name.

[Mall]

I looked.

[Rory]

I was like, not even Bodhi. Is it called J.D. i don't want to call him by his character. I didn't. I didn't call him Bodhi. I know his real name.

[Mall]

Okay, okay.

[Rory]

But that was super cool to me, man. I'm. You know, I think the wires 1a, 1b was Soprano's the Greatest Series of All Time. And Bodhi was always one of my favorite characters, and he's a tremendous actor. So, yeah, I was definitely fangirling a little bit. Yeah, it's okay. Yeah. I definitely maybe put my hand on my heart a few times, like, oh, maybe hit him one of these.

[Damaris]

Going down bad down.

[Rory]

Anytime you do this to somebody, like.

[Mall]

It'S always bullshit, yo.

[Rory]

No.

[Damaris]

And then you gotta hit it with.

[Rory]

No, it really wasn't bullshit. I was. I didn't bow to Bodhi.

[Mall]

Yo. You bowed to Bodhi.

[Damaris]

You were. Love you.

[Mall]

Oh, my man.

[Rory]

Kristen. Snoop didn't have to do you like that.

[Mall]

Oh, my God.

[Rory]

But, yeah, looked over your shoulder, man.

[Damaris]

We had a. We had a good time. And then I found out later that. That the entire Carter family was backstage. I'm like, where I was arguing about. I'm like, the people were like, you were back. I'm like, no, they weren't. They weren't back there. It was. Security was way too willy nilly. Like, I was moving around, around way too freely for B and J and the children to be back there, but they were. I must have just missed them.

[Rory]

Well, it's because we. We were. We were backstage in the beginning. Then when Kelly went on, we never went backstage. We just stayed out and watched the show. That's why we never really went backstage after. Yeah, that makes so. Which, I mean, was fine because I. From side stage, you couldn't really enjoy the show. So I. I didn't want to stay back there.

[Damaris]

Oh. I didn't even tell y' all where Rory had me. What? Sweet Rory had me, yo.

[Rory]

Oh, I mean, we can talk about.

[Damaris]

Go nowhere with Rory, bro. Rory be having you in the craziest scenarios.

[Mall]

Expound. Tell us more.

[Damaris]

Tell them, Rory. You gonna tell.

[Rory]

So we didn't have tickets, per se. We only had the backstage passes. So because we wanted to go watch the actual show, we were kind of just like seat hopping of whatever was open. We're gonna sit and watch because we didn't have real, like, hard tickets. So we found one spot that got us through the entire Kelly set. And then probably the beginning of when Brandy and Monica were doing their back and forth. Then we got kicked out, and my man Ddot said, come up to the suite. So I was like, all right, cool, let's go to the suite. Door was open, walked right in. Wasn't aware that it was Mona Scott's suite. And maybe we weren't invited. And she just kept looking at it. Who the fuck is this? I think we did. I think Damaris and I did do a very good audition for Love and Hip Hop New Jersey, for sure.

[Damaris]

I'm waiting for my email to come through.

[Mall]

This is why I don't go anywhere with y'.

[Damaris]

All. It's him.

[Mall]

It's literally exactly why I don't go. This is why I stay at home. This is why y' all know not to call me and be like, yo, we going to Prudential, man. I'm not coming, man. I'm not. I watched that on Instagram. I'm not coming. But I'm glad y' all went to see the show. I heard great things. I heard Brandy and Monica did that thing. I heard Kelly did great as well. Is that money? On to money. Shout out to money. Is that the show where they brought out? Was it Tyrese there?

[Damaris]

No, that was the New York one that I missed.

[Mall]

I was heartbroken because I did see Tyrese. I seen Tyrese at one of the shows. I didn't know which one it was, though. Yeah, yeah.

[Rory]

I mean, but we got Patty. Patty just gave us, like, one or two notes and then walked off.

[Mall]

That's all Patty gonna do.

[Rory]

That's all we needed.

[Mall]

She ain't gonna do too much. Now she in the victory lap. It's like, y' all know what I do. I'm not here for that, for the games. Like, y' all know I'm not. If I really start singing, somebody gonna feel away in this building tonight. So let me just. Let me just get y' all something. Happy Thanksgiving and have a good night.

[Rory]

I mean, no, it was incredible show. I can't say enough about it, but I am happy. Surprisingly, no violence in the New Jersey show, just at the Barclays center, was their violence. You would think in Newark, New Jersey, something may happen no matter who's performing. We were joking about fighting at an R and B show. Never would I have thought I would read the headline, ja Rule beat up at the Poise Mind Tour. What is going on at the bar now?

[Mall]

When I saw this again, you know how people just. They take things and turn it into something else? So when I saw the clip, I mean, I didn't see anybody swinging. I didn't see anybody fighting. It was a bunch of just, like, you know, commotion and people holding people back. So I'm like, damn, like, maybe we missed the actual fight. Cause I'm hearing, you know, ja Rule got into a fight. And I'm like, ja Rule got into a fight. First of all, he and Ja Rule got into a fight in 2025 is crazy. Let's start. Ja Rule is almost 50 years old, still in shape, still look like his hands work, and he can take care of himself. But I just wouldn't expect to hear Ja Rule was in a fight in 2025 and say what y' all want.

[Rory]

To say about Ja Rule. With any perception. I know for a fact Ja Rule could fight. Oh, no.

[Mall]

I mean, that's not even.

[Rory]

He's one of the few rappers I know could fight Ja Rule.

[Mall]

I'm not even worried about that.

[Rory]

Like, Raul could fight.

[Mall]

That's none of my concern. I'm just like, where is Ja Rule at? Where he got into a fight? I'm thinking somebody ran up on him trying those, you know, viral games and try to get him on camera doing something stupid. I'm just Thinking. And then they say at the Brandi and Monica show. Now back to what the great Leon Thomas quoted last week when niggas was fighting at his show. Brandi and Monica don't have nothing in their catalog that requires you niggas to be fighting. Whether it's backstage side, stage, green room.

[Rory]

Like, technically, the boy is mine is an argument.

[Mall]

If you're the boy that they're talking.

[Rory]

About Ja Rule, maybe they was talking about Ru.

[Mall]

Ja Rule's been happily married for years. That's not who they're talking about. So to hear that Ja Rule got into a fight, I was like, all right. So I see the clip. I'm just seeing commotion. I'm like, this doesn't look like a fight. Maybe they missed the fight. And then Ja Rule gets online to clear things up. Like, nobody touched him. No hands were laid on him. So I'm like, oh, this was just a little commotion. Little, you know, everybody just, you know, causing a scene. And I seen, like, a chair maybe was thrown or something like that.

[Rory]

It was a little tussle.

[Mall]

Yeah, but did we ever. Because I know Ja Rule obviously went online to address what happened. Did he tell us in depth what happened? Yeah. What was it about?

[Rory]

They didn't say what it was about. He was waiting to go on stage. His man's went to go grab him a water before he was going to perform, and then three people just ran up on him and tried to jump him. More or less.

[Mall]

That's really random, people.

[Rory]

Yeah, I mean, he did. The original headline was that Max B did it. Then it was Max Beast people, which is fucked up because Max B just got out on parole. Like, stop trying to jam up Max B.

[Mall]

Okay?

[Rory]

So here he said, Max B. Had nothing to do with it. His people had nothing to do with it. Ja Rule did not say who it was or why they did it. He just said just randomly. Some of his try to get sucker punch and jump him. And, you know, no one really got the best of anybody.

[Mall]

This is some of his bulletin points from his.

[Rory]

From his town hall.

[Mall]

From his town hall on IG Live with 68 people watching.

[Rory]

I don't know why that's funny.

[Mall]

Look, I'm looking at it.

[Rory]

That's what it's 68 people watching. Talk about how you got jumped.

[Mall]

No, I'm just saying more people have seen it now, but whenever he went live, it says 68 right there. I'm just reading that.

[Rory]

I don't know why it's funny.

[Mall]

So he says his bulletin points are Max B Or his crew had nothing to do with it. Shout out to Max B. And his crew for having nothing to do with that. Tasha K. Has terrible sources, which is.

[Rory]

True because she said he was jumped outside to say less, and he wasn't even there. He was not at St. Louis.

[Mall]

Okay, so then he was at the Barclays.

[Rory]

Sometimes you get confused thoughhere near St.

[Mall]

Los, There were three dudes. One snuck him before he could go on stage. His friend had his back. There was a brief tussle, and everyone left. And then Josh says, if he was Bruce Springsteen, the attackers would have been arrested. I agree with you, Josh.

[Rory]

If you were indeed Bruce Springsteen, you're not the Boss.

[Mall]

Yeah, yeah, the attackers would have been arrested. But I am happy.

[Rory]

If that was Bruce Springsteen at the Prudential center, those guys would be on death row, right?

[Mall]

Yeah, they would be. They would be. They would have been killed. But I am happy to hear that, you know, it wasn't. Had anything to do with Max and his crew. Ja wasn't hurt, you know, was just like a quick little, you know, fisticuffs and security did what they had to do. But running up on Ja Rule is just like.

[Rory]

To me, that's kind of corny.

[Mall]

Like, what are you doing? What are you.

[Rory]

What?

[Mall]

Why? What are you getting out of. Running up on ja rule in 2025. Like, again, trying to go viral. Was this somebody that's trying to go viral? Have a moment. Was somebody recording?

[Rory]

I mean, someone ended up recording, but not the people that were fighting. So it's not like someone had the phone and was like.

[Mall]

That's what I'm saying. So was it just random people? Was it people that. Cause it was in Brooklyn, right?

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mall]

Was this some niggas that. He may have had some.

[Damaris]

That's what I'm saying.

[Rory]

Like, I don't think anybody randomly ran up on Ja Rule. Of course, I don't think it's random, but, you know, 50 had fun with it. I personally don't think it's tied to 50 at all either. But, yeah, I don't know. Probably some real personal. That we know nothing about, because Ja, when he was explaining it, it did kind of feel like he did know who it was. He wasn't saying it, but you know how people talk. He's like, I think you know, who did that and why they did it. But we're not going to talk about why that happened, but. Well, but he did make it clear that 50 had nothing to do with it either, because, you know, 50 was going to take Credit for the. Just for the fun of it.

[Mall]

Would he? Did he. I don't think 50 would take.

[Rory]

Well, he laughed. He laughed at it.

[Mall]

Oh, no. 50 gonna laugh at everything. But I don't think he would take credit for that. I don't think 50 is doing that. I think he'll laugh, he'll crack jokes, but he ain't gonna be like, yeah, that's by way of me.

[Rory]

No, no, no, not like that. But again, allude. The way Ja Rule alluded to knowing who did it. The same way 50 would be. Could allude to I had something to do with it, which I don't think 50 had anything.

[Mall]

No, 50. I don't think 50 had anything to do.

[Rory]

But you never know. Somebody could have known 50. And texting him be like, yo, it's Rule right in front of me. And 50 just lol.

[Mall]

Send back a green light.

[Rory]

Yeah, like, joking. And then they think we're serious. Sending a green light.

[Mall]

Emojis is 50 years old, man. I'm not. Yo, bro, listen, man, listen. And Ja Rule, look, he's still in great shape, but, like, who the. Why are y' all running up on Ja rule, man? At 49 years old, whatever issues y' all had in 05, you niggas got kids in high school, college. Now, like, it's over. If you is waiting 20 years to spin. Yeah, come on, man.

[Rory]

And I mean, I can speak for the Prudential center show. Everybody there was of age, 40s, 50s, back backstage.

[Damaris]

Yeah, we were one of the youngest people there.

[Rory]

So the fact that there may have been three 50 year olds that came together and were like, let's go, Peter Cha Rule is even crazier.

[Mall]

The headline is. The headline is almost 50. And look, the headliners, the women whose show it is, is almost 50 years old. Not trying to age y' all too soon, Brandi, Monica, but, you know, 45, 46 around there.

[Rory]

Well, the point of life is to age. It's not an insult 100%.

[Mall]

But I'm just saying, like, you know, you can't throw a woman's age out there. They don't like that. So just my time to do it. But we know that this show was for the aunties and the uncles. This wasn't the Y. N's. There was no shiestys in the building.

[Rory]

I'm sure there was not.

[Mall]

Everybody's face is out in the open, right? Everybody's looking up, got on cologne, perfume, smelling good, got a haircut. This was a different type of audience. This wasn't we gonna jump this nigga tonight. Audience nobody expected to get hands put on him. This is a R and B show. This is Brandi and Monica. Yeah, you niggas can't have nothing. But it's all right, man. Listen, Brandi and Monica, I heard this show was amazing. I'm mad I didn't see it, but I heard this show was great. So glad y' all was there to see that.

[Rory]

Was there any other surprise guest? Damaris? I can't remember.

[Damaris]

No, they did, like, a Whitney like, tribute. Yeah, Whitney was great in Newark.

[Mall]

Wait, so did Max. We perform?

[Rory]

No, he performed at Barclays.

[Damaris]

He performed at Barclays.

[Rory]

We were going to the Newark show, too.

[Mall]

Oh. Oh, this happened at the. This happened at the Barclays? Yes, with John. Okay. Okay. I thought this was a prediction. Okay, got it.

[Damaris]

No, Newark was way calmer.

[Mall]

Yeah. Oh, no, they wasn't have. It was. No, if it was in Newark, I.

[Rory]

Would have held rule down.

[Mall]

They would have beat the new teeth out.

[Rory]

Which is fine, because I'm getting the new ones on Wednesday. Might as well.

[Mall]

Yeah, they would help your dentist out there. We're gonna get these out for you. Don't worry about it. Knock these right on out. But, yeah, the show was great, right?

[Rory]

Yeah, for sure. Had had a lot shout out to.

[Mall]

Brandy and Monica, man.

[Rory]

And I do have to shoot Damaris Sunbell, because if Kelly Rowland would have performed Stole, I would have cried too.

[Damaris]

He kept saying that. He's like, you think she's gonna perform Stole?

[Mall]

I'm like, no, somebody should have stolen you. That's what should have happened at that show.

[Rory]

I had stolen a few of my mixtapes that I made.

[Mall]

All right, so I don't like to be petty, but you're petty. But I'm gonna be petty. Fuck it. Who had the better set?

[Damaris]

Oh, we're not doing that. That we're not doing. Because the way that they did it, it was back and forth. It wasn't like one went and then the other went.

[Mall]

It was like a versus.

[Damaris]

It was like. Yeah, it was like hit for hit. Like they was going hit for hit. There was none of that.

[Rory]

Yeah, it was. It was tough to.

[Mall]

To say, all right, so who hit? Who hit harder?

[Rory]

But then they did take time where they did, like, 15 minutes. 15 minutes, but then did song. Song. Like, how they structured. It was great. I'm going to lean on the Brandy side.

[Mall]

Okay.

[Damaris]

I ain't doing that. I think they. They did amazing.

[Rory]

They. They both were incredible.

[Damaris]

They did amazing.

[Mall]

No, we got that. This is Brandon, Monica we know they both going to do their thing, but.

[Rory]

I. I knew it was going to be a. A tough night when I think she started with Wanna be Down, and I'm like, all right, all right. What are we doing right now? We're starting with this record.

[Mall]

Yeah, you can't do that. That's not fair. You can't start with I wanna be down. Like, what?

[Rory]

I was like, what are we closing with?

[Mall]

I wanna be down out the gate. That's a tough night. That's a tough night.

[Damaris]

But I felt that way when they did that.

[Mall]

Did Monica bring out the sandals? The white sandals?

[Damaris]

She told us to stop teasing her about that.

[Mall]

Those are iconic. She gotta bring those out, though. Like, come on, man.

[Damaris]

It was just so interesting when they were talking the same way I kind of felt during their verses when they were talking about how long they've been. Like, they were singing these songs at 15 years old. Yeah, like 15 years old before you walk out my life type shit. What we doing?

[Mall]

Them sandals is crazy, though.

[Damaris]

But that was the style back then.

[Mall]

No, it wasn't. I never seen. But also, she was like 16.

[Damaris]

She looks 30.

[Mall]

I never seen a. I never seen a girl with those. Never.

[Damaris]

I seen grown women wear those back in the day.

[Mall]

Those.

[Damaris]

Yes, back in the day. Hell yeah.

[Mall]

You not rolling, auntie.

[Damaris]

Seeing those for sure.

[Mall]

Those sandals was crazy.

[Damaris]

I had the non heel version when I was a kid. Like, they. Yeah.

[Mall]

Those sandals is trash. Looking back, them sandals is weak as a motherfucker. Why they put those on?

[Damaris]

That was the style back then.

[Mall]

Was it? I don't remember seeing those.

[Damaris]

Ask your mama. I promise you, your mama has.

[Mall]

I was outside. I was 15 when I was 16 when this came out. I think 15, maybe. Yeah. I never seen those.

[Damaris]

But what I'm saying is they dressed her. So. Yes, you might have been 15, right around the same age as her. But they dressed her like an older woman, so.

[Mall]

Oh, yeah, she define them.

[Damaris]

Had them sandals on at that time. Are you seeing what I'm saying?

[Mall]

Like, I never seen. Never seen the aunts weirdos, though. I just never.

[Damaris]

I definitely did. Yeah, I definitely did.

[Mall]

Maybe those is a Syracuse special.

[Damaris]

You.

[Mall]

Those ain't make it down. Those ain't make it down. 87, 95. What is it? 95, 87. How you get up?

[Damaris]

Well, yeah, all y' all wore was sneakers and tims, cuz y' all keep.

[Mall]

Putting timbs on us like that. That's not true. That's not true. But I'm glad that the show was dope. Though, all jokes aside, it's good to see Brandi Monica going on tour and people loving it if you know the history between them two. People have always tried to pit them two against each other, like they had issues, like they didn't like each other and all of this dumb shit. So it's good to see them, you know, on tour and selling out arenas across the country.

[Rory]

Yeah. And I'm glad Ja Rule is fine.

[Mall]

And I'm glad Ja is safe. Good job, Josh. I. Niggas run up on Ja. If y' all want Ja in shape, man. Ja. Ja gonna put one of you niggas down. He gonna put somebody down. All right. It's that time of the year where we get all of these lists. This is Rory's favorite time of the year.

[Rory]

I fall for it every time.

[Mall]

Every time you fall for it, and every time I gotta sit here and fall with you. So this is Complex.

[Rory]

Yes.

[Mall]

Complex put out the 50 best albums of the 21st century.

[Rory]

Yep.

[Mall]

But so far. Gotta put that there. So far, These are the 50 in complexes, eyes, and brain. These are the 50 best albums and.

[Rory]

Complex that we love. The greatest publication of all time.

[Mall]

Oh, man. Shout out to anybody else.

[Rory]

Number nine.

[Mall]

Are there any other publications?

[Rory]

If you look at. We're in great company because we were number nine. And then number nine is Beyonce. All right, we're pretty much Beyonce if.

[Mall]

You think about it. We are, if you think about it, pretty much Beyonce.

[Rory]

I'll be honest with you why I did want to talk about this list. This is the first time I've seen a list, and I kind of, like, damn near agree with everything.

[Mall]

All right. I'm calling Cat With My Beautiful Dog, Twister Fantasy being number one.

[Rory]

Okay. So my generation believes that. We've argued this. Even I think pre podcasting, we were. We were arguing this entire thing. Your generation can't understand why. My generation believes it could be the greatest hip hop album of all time. And I understand it's a. It's an age difference there, but I'm fine with it. I'm fine if someone says no, but I think it's. You can say that. My Beautiful Dark, Twisted Fantasy.

[Mall]

But this is not.

[Rory]

Is a perfect album.

[Mall]

But this is not just hip hop albums, though.

[Damaris]

That's. Yeah, best albums. Everything's included. They got Rihanna and Beyonce up there, so.

[Rory]

Yeah. But I think Complex lean less. Where Rolling Stone tries to cover every single genre, I think Complex was trying to keep it to the culture, which is fine.

[Damaris]

But the culture includes R B for sure.

[Rory]

Frank Ocean Blonde is right there. Yeah.

[Damaris]

So I think that's Maul. That's what Mal's argument is.

[Mall]

Is this the right list? Okay, so, yeah, that being number one, great album. I don't know if it's number one of the. For the 21st.

[Rory]

What. What would you put above it. Now? An argument we've. We've had again pre podcasting. I think we did this in someone's living room. Was Blueprint verse, My Beautiful Dark Swiss, and Fantasy. I'm not mad at the take that you could say blueprint. It beats it. I just feel that that's the best album. I'm fine with this first five, to be quite honest. You could mix, mix, and match them. Cool. Whatever. I think those are the best five. It's my beautiful darks with fantasy at 1, 50 Cent, give or should I try it? 2. Jay Z, blueprint at 3, Rihanna, anti at 4, Eminem, Marshall, Madison P at 5. I don't think that's a bad five whatsoever. Finally, a list that, you know, I don't agree. I'm not completely with everything, but it's not a bad five at all. If you get down.

[Mall]

I'm mad at the five. I think I'm just looking at my Beautiful dark Twisted Fantasy being number one.

[Rory]

What would you put there out of.

[Mall]

That five up there? I probably would put the blueprint before that.

[Rory]

Okay. Not mad at that shit.

[Mall]

Even Get Rich or Die Trying is hard to like. You know what I'm basing it off. Rory. I don't go back to that album and listen to it a lot.

[Rory]

My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy again, I think that's an age difference. Where my generation 88 to 93 babies. Yeah, that's like a biblical album.

[Mall]

Like, I've listened to Get Rich or Die Trying way more than I've listened to My Beautiful Dog Twisted Fantasy. Like, way more. So I just like great album. I'm not saying that it's not a great album, but just number one for me. Again, this is just me. I just don't have that being my number one of the 21st century. But it is a great album, and I understand why it is, you know, held in such high regards because it is great music.

[Rory]

I mean, shit, not really a scathing take, but I think you could argue that Anti is number one. Like, you could make a case that Anti could be number one on this list.

[Mall]

It's definitely the best mixed album of all time.

[Rory]

That is the greatest.

[Mall]

That album was mixed so great.

[Damaris]

Hold on. Wait. I'm sorry. I just saw that Confessions was on.

[Rory]

That list at 35, that's absolutely insane.

[Damaris]

That needs to be closer because I.

[Rory]

Just looked at the top 15. Having confessions at 34 is.

[Mall]

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. It's like I listen to Confessions way more than I listen to my beautiful doctor Fantasy.

[Damaris]

Yeah, but just because you listen to an album more doesn't mean that it's a better album. But I get what you're saying. Not exactly. That's just me. It's your favorite. Something can be your favorite and you can prefer it. It doesn't exactly mean that it's a better album. Does that make sense? Okay.

[Mall]

I think if I listen to something a lot, like I keep going back to it, it's probably the better album.

[Damaris]

Okay.

[Mall]

Yeah. Just the replay value. Yeah. I mean, even Graduation might be a better album than Beautiful.

[Damaris]

It's not.

[Rory]

It's not.

[Mall]

It might be. It's not 808's and heartbreak.

[Rory]

No.

[Mall]

Okay.

[Rory]

It deserves to be on the list for what it did. Like. Like, you don't get Playboi Carti a whole lot of red without 808s and heartbreaks. Like, it definitely defined a lot of the projects that are on this. What I did find very surprising is I'm not mad at SZA SOS at 16 whatsoever. The fact that Control is not in the top 10 or on the list at all is fucking insane.

[Damaris]

Control is on the list. Oh, that's insane. That's like.

[Rory]

But the fucking Eminem show is five and it's not even on the list. Yeah, like, if they left SOS off, I'd be like, that's fucked up. That belongs there. But to leave Control even out of the top 10 to me is nuts, let alone the whole 50. And I'm scrolling. I even did the. The command find thing. Control is not on here.

[Damaris]

I guess for the top 15, top 20, whatever. They were trying to, like, even things out, so there weren't too many of one artist in there. But having Beyonce Lemonade below the majority of those albums is a little crazy to me.

[Rory]

But I think Tyler, call me if you get lost should be on the list. But to have that on the list instead of Igor is kind of crazy to me. Like, Igor, I think could make the top 25.

[Mall]

Yo, this is no disrespect. I don't understand the Playboi Carti thing.

[Rory]

Oh, I mean, you already know where.

[Mall]

I. I really don't understand, like, I be trying to get into it, like, and understand what that whole move is. Movement is about. But the music just doesn't. It doesn't hold me. Like, I just can't really, like, connect to it like that.

[Rory]

It's just one of those that I've. I've given up trying to.

[Damaris]

Yes.

[Mall]

And I'm like, damn. That's.

[Rory]

I can respect the. The movement that he's built and know 100 how important he is to.

[Mall]

But that's why I'm trying to understand it, because I'm like, damn, what he's doing is incredible.

[Rory]

Because there's like. But there's plenty of artists that I don't like. But I get it. I don't like him and I don't get it. Like, I just don't understand it. The last album was, like, really cool instrumentals. I didn't. This Playboy card even on the album.

[Mall]

Yeah. I don't know.

[Rory]

It's like a beat tape.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Mall]

I don't understand it. But I mean, listen. Salute to. Shout out my Gucci Shout out my.

[Rory]

Gucci Jesus at 14. How do you feel about that?

[Damaris]

I think it deserves to be on the list, but I don't know if I. I know it doesn't deserve to be that high, but it deserved to be on the list. Jesus is one of my favorite Kanye albums.

[Rory]

I. I like Jesus a lot. I know that's.

[Mall]

Which one was Jesus?

[Damaris]

Black Skin Head.

[Rory]

What was the one that people probably hated the most?

[Mall]

What was the other one with Father Stretch My Hands and all of that?

[Rory]

Pablo.

[Damaris]

Pablo.

[Mall]

I think that was better than Yeezus.

[Rory]

I'm not mad at that take.

[Damaris]

I think it had bigger hits than Yeezus, but as a entirety, I don't think it was better than Yeezus, if that makes sense. But it's an argument. A lot of people. That could have been my preference.

[Rory]

Yeah. I mean, I don't know. Hold My Liquor is like, one of my favorite Kanye songs. Like, I wish people use Chief Keith the way he did on Hold My Liquor. More like, I need the Chief Keef. RBL is what I'd prefer, but I don't know. I mean, again, I'm not mad at the. The top 10, because lists, no matter what, are made just to argue.

[Mall]

And they just.

[Rory]

I'm kind of, like, cool with, like. Even if I disagree, I do get every point that is here. I love that they put House of Balloons on here as an album and not a mixtape. But then if you're doing that, so Far Gone needs to be on here as well.

[Damaris]

Yep.

[Rory]

Like, yeah. The fact that if you're gonna put A House of Balloons on here. There's no reason why so Far Gone should not be.

[Mall]

I don't know what was in that house of balloons, but that had women.

[Rory]

Cocaine. It was cocaine.

[Mall]

You put that on at the house party.

[Damaris]

It was cocaine, baby.

[Rory]

It was. It was cocaine chased with Molly water.

[Mall]

The girls was. They was pulling thongs to the side when that came out.

[Damaris]

I just rip a hole in the thong.

[Mall]

When that house of Balloons hit.

[Damaris]

Yeah, House of Balloons.

[Mall]

Who is this? From the north?

[Rory]

It was the same. We in one, pretty much summer. We got House of Balloons, Nostalgia, Ultra, and we got cocaine. 80s. All within three months of each other.

[Damaris]

Yeah, I missed drugs, yo. I miss when the drugs was in the music.

[Mall]

When was that?

[Rory]

Nobody wanted to hear a rap bar for three months. No, like, if you're not playing this, shut the fuck up. We only want to hear weeknd Frank and cocaine.

[Mall]

80S. Yeah. That house a balloon boy. 2011 asses was being taken at a rate with Ray J. Stein.

[Rory]

Consensually.

[Mall]

Consensually. Of course, it's always consensual. But, yeah, 2011 was a. That was a time.

[Damaris]

Freshman year of college.

[Mall]

Oh, you was.

[Rory]

I was in College and turned 20 freshman year. That was my junior year, baby.

[Mall]

D. I don't even wanna know you your freshman year. I don't even wanna know what you was doing, what you was saying, what you were wearing.

[Damaris]

I don't even wanna shout out to Liu, man. Shout out to House of Balloons. Shout out to Take Care. All that shit came out of the street.

[Rory]

Downtown Brooklyn, freshman. 2011, when House of Balloons dropped. Yeah, that's crazy.

[Damaris]

We did a listening party for Take Care Of.

[Mall]

I was. He was listening. I listened to that bathroom, seeing who was in there. All right, now y' all gotta come out of there. I gotta. I gotta use the toilet, yo.

[Rory]

Yeah, 2011. We got. Take Care as well. We got. Let's go back 2011 albums. 2011 might be an underrated year that we don't really bring up.

[Mall]

2011 was a year for music.

[Damaris]

Boy, we had a time.

[Mall]

I was outside, for reals. I was. I was outside. I got. I got a lot of skeletons.

[Rory]

Section 80 was great. Oh, live love ASAP came out. Watch the Throne, Cole's first album.

[Damaris]

Oh, my God.

[Rory]

Rolling Papers Whiz, yo. What the fuck? How come we don't bring up 2011? More Lupe Lacers came out.

[Mall]

Because the girls always try to delete that year. They don't want to remember what they was doing. 2011. They go right past 2011. Go right to 2012. Like, yo, remember the Mayans said 2012, the world was going to end. They go right to that. They'll never. No. Talk about what you was doing in the summer.

[Rory]

Talk about August of 2011.

[Mall]

Please don't go to 2012 with the Mayans and all of that. Talk about 2011. Y' all like to conveniently delete that year.

[Rory]

Yeah. Roots undone. This was a great, great year. My God.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Yeah. It can't with 2016. God damn that.

[Rory]

We got Beyonce 4.

[Damaris]

Rolling in it Deep. Rolling in the Deep.

[Rory]

James Blake. James Blake album. My God, what the. Why were we 1977. The dream. Listen, man, I. We talk about 2016.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Often as we should. But I feel like this. Chris Brown fame, Wale, Ambition Carter for big show. And finally, famous super underrated project. Yeah. What the.

[Mall]

Yeah, yeah.

[Rory]

And we got. We got weekend Thursday. We got more than House of Balloons from weekend in 2011. We got a follow up by the end of the year.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Damn.

[Mall]

No, that's when. That's when the Weeknd, everybody was talking about the weekend. That was his year. Everybody's like, yo, who is this dude?

[Rory]

Like, yeah, damn, we were spoiled.

[Mall]

Great year for music. Great fucking year for music. All right, well, complex. Thank you for this.

[Damaris]

Walk down Memory Lane.

[Mall]

Top 50 best albums of the 21st century so far.

[Rory]

Yes. When is the 21st century end? I'm always bad with centuries. Like 29. Okay. So far, this is the best. Yeah.

[Mall]

So you gotta wait for 74 years, though.

[Rory]

I'm not gonna be here for that.

[Mall]

I'm just saying they'll update it at 74 years and let us know. Like, no, this is definitely the best.

[Rory]

Amara, you will be arguing about this. You will close this, this, this segment for us.

[Mall]

As an old woman, I was about.

[Damaris]

To say she gonna be old as fuck, too.

[Mall]

As an old woman. Amara will close this segment and let us know if that. That was indeed the accurate list of the 21st century.

[Rory]

You know, Mall, there's something that. That's been heavy on my mind that I, you know, I. I haven't asked you. It's just.

[Mall]

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[Rory]

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[Mall]

Absolutely.

[Rory]

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[Mall]

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[Rory]

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[Mall]

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[Mall]

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[Rory]

Mall. Can you bear one more list before we we get off this. This topic?

[Mall]

It depends. But yes. Let me have it.

[Rory]

Pause the list. You said let me have it.

[Mall]

I don't know the list.

[Damaris]

It was a fun pa. It was a good pause.

[Mall]

Was it?

[Damaris]

It was a good pause, yeah.

[Mall]

Oh, look at the replay. I don't know.

[Rory]

Let's study the game tape on that one. Yeah, maybe you should, you know, stretch before you reach, but I hear you. Our guy Elliot, he texted this to me over the weekend knowing it was gonna piss me off. He did the best NAS features of 2025. Obviously NAS has been on all the Mass Appeal stuff. He did Eclipse feature. So Elliot Put Together Top 10 list of the Nas features this year and I wasn't mad at it per se. I do think Elliot got number one correct.

[Mall]

What was number one?

[Rory]

Big L. You ain't got a chance. I think, yeah, that. That could be verse of the year that Nas did on that. Now going to number two. I did not dislike this verse. It was kind of my only little critique of the Clips album. I didn't think it was necessary with the beat change. It didn't feel like they did it together. Yeah, it's not a bad. It's a Nas.

[Mall]

No, it's a Nas verse, but I didn't like it.

[Rory]

2. I think every verse after this is better than that one.

[Mall]

The verse he did on De La Soul album is better than that.

[Rory]

His verse on the day last year is crazy.

[Mall]

That's better than that one on the Clips album. To me. Again, I. I wasn't really feeling that.

[Rory]

I'm not mad at Ghostface Love Me Anymore being at number three, but I do think Mob Deep, Poor the Henny should be number two. And after that I don't really care. I think it should be big. Oh, you ain't Got a chance. And then Mob Deep, Pour the Henny, and anything you want to do after that.

[Mall]

Oh, I forgot about.

[Rory]

Oh, yeah, the Omar to. Yeah, yeah, that could be number three in my opinion. But I wasn't mad at this list and I like that, you know, Elliot's still doing editorial and, you know, I don't know. Do you think Beat out felt away that he did a list?

[Mall]

I'm sure, I'm sure. B Dot is.

[Rory]

You think he was at home, like.

[Mall]

Seething at this, at this, at this list.

[Rory]

He texted, yo, what's up with you?

[Mall]

Of course, Absolutely. He sent him that. Like, yo, is you cool?

[Rory]

Is you cool?

[Mall]

B Dot definitely text LA like, is you cool?

[Rory]

Ransom and Primo just got us back together and you go and do this shit behind my back?

[Mall]

Yeah, this is why I don't fuck with you now, Elliot, you know B Dot was pissed. He can't put no list on him.

[Rory]

Matter of fact, I don't even think B Dot texted Elliot. I think he texted Ransom and said, this is why I don't do this shit.

[Mall]

Yeah, like, see, look at your man.

[Rory]

Look at your man. Look at your man.

[Mall]

Look at what your man doing. This is why I ain't want to do that. See?

[Rory]

But shout out to Elliot and B Dot, I'd like to have them on for. For our year end wrap up.

[Mall]

Elliot and B Dot.

[Rory]

Yeah, if they. I mean, listen, Ramon, Random and Primo are. They're gods over here. I know we're just mere mortals, but I. I would like to have both of them on if. If they. They do an episode with us.

[Mall]

Yeah, why not? I'm not against it.

[Rory]

A sober one.

[Mall]

Nah, let them drink. See, that's when you gotta let them drink. That's when you gotta let Elliot get his shit off. Nah, I want him to be drunk if not.

[Rory]

Nah, that's my friend. I can't let him be gillaspy.

[Mall]

No, I wanna hear what Elliot really gotta say to B Dot. Don't give me. Don't give me the PC shit. Don't give me that. Tell B Dot how you feel right here, Elliot.

[Rory]

Yeah, no, I wanna do a year end wrap up. Not a year end wrap up of their relationship.

[Mall]

No, they don't wrap up their relationship at the end of the year. This shit is a fact. Their relationship is a wrap at the end of the year. That's it.

[Rory]

Yeah, the same way how? Math. We had the therapy session where he laid down. They could each lay on a couch and then we could set up like stools.

[Mall]

Behind it and just talk and ask questions.

[Rory]

Yeah. Go list for list.

[Mall]

Yeah, I'm with that list.

[Rory]

The 10 things you hate about Elliott. The 10 things you hate about B Dot and just let them. Let them work it up.

[Mall]

The 10 things I hate about.

[Rory]

No, no. That they hate about each other.

[Mall]

Oh. Oh, yeah. Let them do that. Get your shit off. And then what?

[Rory]

Top 20, 25 things I've hated that Elliott did this year.

[Mall]

Right? Yeah. From Got to Make the Habit, shout out to B Nelly. Let's make that happen for the end of the year.

[Rory]

That would be a lot of fun. Before we get off music, this is more on, like, the nerdy side. But who Sampled A website that I love that can just tell you what the sample is on every record Spotify bought. But I think it's great because it's just going to add more to credits and I think should shout to title. Tidal was the first DSP to ever put all the credits, which I think are super important for songs and albums. Spotify then followed suit and now they have who sampled who does it at a way crazier clip. Like, who sampled will tell you who was breathing in the fucking next to the engineer that day.

[Mall]

Damn. My homegirl, that's autistic. She could have did that.

[Damaris]

Okay?

[Mall]

She knows every sample as soon as she hear it. Like, that shit is incredible to me. Like, no, I'm not even joking. Like, she can hear shit and tell you the sample, what year it came out. Like, that shit is incredible. That shit is like a gift.

[Rory]

Like, we had an autistic kid in our high school named Z Man, and if you asked him any date, he could tell you what day of the week it was. If you'd be like, August 23, 1876, he'd tell you what day the week it was. Like, Thursday, and it would be right.

[Mall]

That's a gift.

[Rory]

It's fucking. It was crazy.

[Mall]

That is a gift to be able to do that shit. Yeah. My homegirl, she could hear shit and be like, yo, that's the what's her name Sample, though, that came out this year. I'd be like, how do you do? Like, how is that? Wait, why don't.

[Rory]

Hold on. Does she need a job?

[Mall]

She has a job.

[Rory]

Okay, but do you know, like, even with the projects put out with Jay and everything, like, you have to hire a music musicologist, whoever the it is, to find certain stuff that's a real gig. Like, if she could just do it off top, like, she could get paid. Paid. These people are like, really Researching all that.

[Mall]

She just knows I'm saying, like. And she's always had that ability, like, she can just hear something and know exactly who. Where that sample's from. I'm like, that is a gift. And I don't even think she even. Like, she doesn't.

[Rory]

She.

[Mall]

She's never worked in the music industry at all.

[Rory]

Yeah, that's not a work in the music industry thing. That's a God given gift to know that.

[Mall]

Yeah, like, that shit is crazy.

[Rory]

Shit. Chat. Gbt and AI would love her brain. Does she need to listen?

[Mall]

If we go down a rabbit hole.

[Rory]

Can we just manage her?

[Mall]

If we go down a rabbit hole? I think it's somebody autistic behind all of that that's sitting there answering all these questions. They just hired a bunch of autistic people and was like, all right, just. It's like a hotline. People text things and ask questions. You answer it.

[Rory]

I wish we could continue with Marlon, how good this bit could be, but I'm just. I'm gonna leave the bit right there, thank you. Because that could be such a good bit. I'm just gonna leave it right there.

[Mall]

All right, man. Y' all think I'm joking? I'm dead ass serious.

[Rory]

Are you on in the Twitter world of the sample snitching culture?

[Mall]

No, I'm in the Twitter world remove sample and I just see niggas snitching all day long on Twitter. That's the world I'm in.

[Rory]

I mean, shout out to Nicholas Craven, an incredible, incredible producer from Montreal, has a bunch of projects with Ransom, one of my favorite young producers. He's like, kind of leading the way. Joey Merlino does his podcast about hating snitches. That's what Nick is on Twitter with all the fans that try to guess all the samples that are used and try to splash all these producers. Like, don't tell them I sampled that. It's a real thing.

[Mall]

Okay.

[Rory]

Which I'm. I have mixed feelings on. I. I think producers maybe like Nick, that are. Are chopping stuff down so much that you're not really using it is fine. But I do think if you sample someone's record, they should get credit for it.

[Mall]

Oh, yeah.

[Rory]

But I feel, Nick, like if I'm chopping this down so much, you can't recognize a fucking thing. Don't end, listen, I'm doing independent projects with Ransom. Don't do this to us. You get this shit taken down. Like.

[Mall]

Yeah. I mean, the thing about sampling is, you know, again, the hip hop and rap it's built upon sample. The break beat is the sample of a record. It's the breakdown of a record. So I'm on the side that sampling is just part of it. I do believe that if you're sampling somebody else's art, then you should, you know, you should have to pay for that, which is. I think most artists are fine with. It's the ones that won't even allow you to sample their music that I kind of look at. Like, that's crazy. And I loved Smokey Robinson was talking to, I think Tank. I think it was Tank's podcast. And, you know, he was saying, like, listen, man, these younger guys want to use my stuff. You know, I probably wrote and record, recorded it when half of these guys weren't even born. And if, you know, they find my music and they get inspired by it and they want to use it, Smokey, he don't say no to nobody. Like, yeah, sample it. Take it. I mean, the amount music lives on like that. You know what I mean? Like, it crosses generations. It crosses genres. The music continues to live, and people find it. And if you, like me, I hear samples and I'm like, yo, what's the original? And I go listen to the original.

[Rory]

That's why I love WhoSampled.com.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Because if you're a. A music nerd like us, the amount of artists, albums, songs that I've discovered because hip hop producers sampled them, I couldn't even tell you.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Like, it has opened my world to a completely different perspective of music just based off researching. Oh, you sampled this? Like, Q Tip has some of the wildest samples of all time. Like, the Rabbit Hole. I've gone down with what Q Tip has just sampled in the artists I've discovered. Like, how the fuck did Q Tip even know about this? Like, it's not even. So it's like, how'd you find this country album? And, I mean, I'm with you. I think Smokey is right in that regard. Yeah, you're just gonna help your career. Discovery.

[Mall]

My music lives forever. Let these younger generations, let them use it. Let them enjoy it. And it keeps my name alive as well. So, yeah, I'm always on the side of paying the original artists of the music.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mall]

But when artists, like, just shut it down and, like, they don't want nobody sampling, I just. That's just weird to me. And again, you can't tell nobody what to do with theirs. Like, if you created something and you know you can tell you can. You have all rights to claim Whatever you want to claim if you don't want people to use it. But it is a little weird. It's like, but why not?

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mall]

If I'm inspired by this one sound that you put on your song and this one part of your record, if it inspired a whole song for me, like, I don't understand why you wouldn't let me use it. Yeah.

[Rory]

If you're Tory Bricks, how do you feel when Summer Walker samples your fiance?

[Mall]

Now, I will say this because this Tory Bricks and Summer Walker thing was all over the timeline.

[Rory]

I was driving to Kaz's daughter's birthday with Amara glued to my phone in traffic.

[Mall]

Yeah. But I listen. I've seen people. I've seen people responding to it and, you know, saying things. I feel like Summer is living her rhymes.

[Rory]

I'm with you.

[Mall]

Her last album, she's on the COVID with a trick. She with a old nigga. It ain't about love. It's about money. Here she go doubling down, saying she just.

[Rory]

With Rich. I tried the love thing. I'm cool with.

[Mall]

I'm cool on that whole love now saying, yo, Rich the kid is just my trick.

[Rory]

Well, give full backstory. Cause this started, what, Saturday morning, Friday night? Something like that?

[Mall]

I don't know when it hit the.

[Damaris]

Timeline originally, if I'm not mistaken.

[Rory]

Friday night, give backstory. And can you guys also give me some backstory of how Pizza Hut got involved? How did they start sponsoring this?

[Damaris]

From what I know, and I looked a little bit just so that we could talk about it on here. From what I am aware of some audio leaked of Summer Walker.

[Mall]

No, no, no, no. See, I, like, I love maybe do that. Some audio leak.

[Damaris]

No.

[Mall]

Tory Bricks put out a voicemail that Summer left Rich the kid.

[Damaris]

Was it confirmed that Tory put it out, though? Cause I don't know if Tory put it out or Rich put it out. Like, I don't think it was confirmed that Tori got involved with it.

[Rory]

Rich put it out. He's sick.

[Damaris]

It was between Summer and Rich at first.

[Rory]

Okay.

[Mall]

So whoever did. I'm just laughing at the leak part that you just said the leak.

[Rory]

It was.

[Mall]

That's not a leak. If. If Iceman album leaks. That's a leak.

[Rory]

This.

[Mall]

Somebody. One of these put it out. That's not a leak. They put that out. They were.

[Rory]

Somebody had it in their phone. Yeah.

[Mall]

And they went to say. And they pressed in. That's not a leak.

[Rory]

So there was a voice note of Summer being drunk, right?

[Mall]

I believe so, yes. And, you know, she was saying, store her name. Store her number as Pizza Hut.

[Damaris]

Well, let's pull up the entire transcript of what she was saying.

[Mall]

Baby D. Baby D. This is not a transcript. We not in court.

[Damaris]

They have the transcript, though. If you go.

[Rory]

Tamaras is the doj.

[Damaris]

I saw it. Because Shade Room had it. So Shade Room transcribed it. Okay, so let's take a second for. Josh transcribed it.

[Rory]

Their stenographer over at.

[Mall]

Yeah, the stenographer at the Shade Room put out the.

[Rory]

Look at how bored we all are, yo. That this is as a transcript.

[Damaris]

Go on. Ig, sweetheart, Summer said, I'm sending you this right now because I'm tipsy. And they say when you're tipsy, your true self and your true feelings come out. I don't want to wait till tomorrow. And I don't say it. I miss you, and I want to see you, and I want to hang out. And I'm honestly really glad. I mean, I know it probably sounds fucked up, but I'm really glad everything worked out how it worked out, because I want you to be with your family. Like, you know, when I was in. When we were in Italy, and I kept saying to you, I was like, why aren't you with your baby mom? Like, let's stop. Let's stop for a second.

[Rory]

I want you to stop because you need to deliver this in the drunk voice. We've all left some. Some drunk voice notes before. I don't think you're selling it the way that Somerset it to Richard.

[Damaris]

I don't.

[Rory]

I don't need to sell it to Richard the kid.

[Damaris]

I don't need to sell it because the shit that she's crazy is so her saying. Like, I was just kept saying, why you not with your baby mom? Summer, my girl from manipulator. Manipulator.

[Rory]

My girl.

[Damaris]

Who you think you playing with?

[Rory]

Who you think you.

[Damaris]

I've been telling you, like, yo, why you not with your baby mom? Like, y' all should be together. Baby girl, stop. The easiest way into a n heart, allegedly, is to make it seem like you trying to do just what's best for him. You just want him to be happy. You just want what's best for him.

[Rory]

Like, y' all be lying when you.

[Damaris]

Say that you should get your family back together. And now he's sitting up there arguing with her. Nah, that's just my friend. She be looking out for you. She be taking up for you in the arguments.

[Mall]

Mm.

[Damaris]

Baby, we've been on this earth for too long to play these games.

[Mall]

Summer's so gangster. She Said, I don't even like that nigga.

[Rory]

No, we gonna get there.

[Damaris]

We gonna get there.

[Rory]

We gonna get there. We gonna get there.

[Mall]

We gonna get there. Summer said, we only fuck, like, twice a year.

[Rory]

I got to that part when I pulled into the indoor playground for Cass's daughter's birthday, and me and Amara sat in the car for another five minutes.

[Mall]

Yeah, man. I'm like.

[Rory]

When she said that, I was like, nah, Amar, we're gonna go inside in a second. I have to listen to the rest of this.

[Mall]

We all need a chick like Summer.

[Damaris]

We gonna get there, okay? She continues to say, like, I'm not gonna bother y'. All. I promise. Cause y' all was never gonna stop fucking with each other anyway. That's why I'm just kind of like, you know, fucked our shit up. Cause she was acting crazy. She was always acting crazy. She be fighting people and everything. Calling a flower shop, looking for the address. Like, I don't have time for that shit. I can't have a serious relationship with someone when they baby mama act like that. So I'm just glad that y' all are back together. I want y' all to be together forever. I just want to fuck with you. Hey.

[Mall]

Mm. That's what I. That's the type of text messages I be needing to read. Just want to with me.

[Damaris]

Cool.

[Rory]

Rich the Kid. I apologize. I was not familiar with your game. I wasn't aware. I'm so sorry, Richard. Kid, I didn't know your name, though.

[Mall]

I didn't even know he had a max contract. I didn't even know they signed him to the max.

[Rory]

My God.

[Mall]

We had no idea. I thought he was retired.

[Rory]

Why is he not in that complex list of greatest albums of the 21st century?

[Mall]

Bro, I thought Rich the Kid was retired out the game family. I didn't know he was still getting 30. I didn't know he was still putting up 30. I had no. This was. This is why. This is crazy because you be thinking that some dudes ain't in the headlines, they ain't no shame. They chilling like, this nigga all the way done. He went and sat down. He not fucking around.

[Rory]

Yeah, he's one of those different types of athletes where he's averaging a triple double, but one of the stats is steals. It's like, how you get 10 steals a game.

[Mall]

Yeah, it's like, I don't even wanna talk to the press after the game and all of that. Like, we got the win. Let's just move on to the next game. Rich the Kid. I wasn't familiar. I couldn't believe when they said Rich the Kid. I was like, that can't be. He's.

[Damaris]

He out the way.

[Mall]

Nothing about bricks.

[Damaris]

He out the way. That's why I'm like.

[Mall]

He just chilling. I'm like, rich the Kid.

[Rory]

To have a future legend. After the three albums she has put out, I think it's safe to say Summer Walker will be a future goat.

[Mall]

No, she's a legend to have a goat. This right here, this is a hall of fame.

[Rory]

I say to you, I want you and your baby mother to be together forever. And I just want to fuck with you.

[Damaris]

No, let's continue on. You know, when you have time.

[Rory]

No, it might be Rich the Kid, Jay Z, Nas big. Like, if we're. If we're doing list.

[Mall]

Yeah, Complex. Y' all might. This might be the greatest nigga of the 21st century right here. Whenever Complex. Whenever. Y' all put the list out of greatest niggas of the 21st century. Rich the Kid better be number one.

[Damaris]

One.

[Mall]

This is. No. Excuse me. ASAP. Rocky is number one.

[Rory]

Yeah, okay. I'm not mad at Rocky.

[Mall]

Rocky is number one with that marlem. Did that nigga's number one.

[Rory]

Number three, French Montana.

[Mall]

Yes.

[Damaris]

She finishes out with. You know, when you have time, we always have a good time. You treat me so good. I treat you so good. And I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna bother y'. All. Like, you could buy me a new phone so you don't know the number and save it as. Save it under Pizza Hut for all I care. I'm not gonna it put. So that's all I wanted to say. And I know you're not gonna be weird or, like, out us or anything like that. Let me tell you something. If I went in my N phone and Summer Walker was calling like this.

[Mall]

Yo, look at the. Look at this nigga's game. Y' all not even seeing the step back three. He just hit what she said. You know, when you have time, we always have a good time. You treat me so good. I treat you so good. This nigga is putting up legendary numbers. You treat me good. I treat you so good. I know what that mean.

[Damaris]

So the argument now goes into. So Rich the Kid and Summer Walker are now going back and forth, right? Going back and forth, arguing and shit like that. There then gets a text message put out where at one point, Summer Walker was with Rich the Kid. And Rich the Kid left his son's backpack in the car. She sent a picture of it. He was like, oh, that's my son's backpack. She was like, I'm gonna send this to Tory. So Tory's like, why is this bitch harassing me? Like, why do you want anything?

[Mall]

Wait, Summer said that?

[Damaris]

Wait, Summer was texting back and forth with Rich?

[Mall]

She said, I'm gonna send this picture to Tory. Summer, Yes.

[Damaris]

I think she was being funny. You know, girls be being funny. So then some text message then Torey is putting out DMs from summer, where Summer is like, let me know whenever you wanna have fun. Whenever you wanna get out. Whenever you wanna get over that nigga.

[Mall]

Sending that to Torey.

[Rory]

It's a different type of manipulation. Whenever you wanna get.

[Damaris]

Whenever you need help getting over. I just wanna help you get over that.

[Mall]

N. Wait, wait, wait. All right, hold up. I didn't hear about this part.

[Damaris]

No, you gotta go, Josh. Go back and pull him up.

[Mall]

She d. Mom. Yo, whenever you want to get out and get over that fiance. His fiance. Excuse me. Whenever you ready to get over that and get out, hit me up. Like, let me know.

[Damaris]

I can pull up the exact.

[Rory]

Let me see evil.

[Mall]

That is crazy.

[Rory]

I understand why Summer has such an amazing pen, though. No, like, she's devious. Her brain works different. I understand why she's such a genius with her writing. Summer is different.

[Mall]

That's crazy. If she told his. His fiance that.

[Damaris]

How you holding up when you've been fucking my nigga is crazy. How you holding up? How you holding, dog?

[Rory]

Summer is fucking. She's different. I get it. I understand why her pen is so good now. She is a different type of deviance.

[Damaris]

How you holding up? Lol. Well, scroll up, Josh.

[Rory]

Scroll up.

[Damaris]

Because even call me when you lonely or weak or just want to have some fun with a heart. Tori responds, good night. And Summer responds with heart, hearts, the licking face and night boo. Did Summer want to her? All right, whatever.

[Rory]

So then I was hoping that I didn't have, like, porn brain.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Rory]

During that whole thing, when I read that, I was like, wait, is there more to this story that I don't know about? Did he. Did they rich the kid post some Stevie J?

[Damaris]

That would have came out, I feel.

[Rory]

Like, because we don't talk about how after the whole Jocelyn and Mimi thing, then we found out they had a threesome, I was like, yo, add Stevie J to list.

[Damaris]

That happens a lot. So April 7, 2023, Summer hits Tori like, how you holding up? Respond. April 14, 2023, Summer says, I reached out. I reached out to you about Linking up to give you some words of encouragement on how to move on from a nigga that don't respect you. And since then, I've completely moved on from the situation despite the nigga continuing to harass me and my friends. Please don't be telling people about this unfortunate account encounter and showing people our messages. If I knew he had a fiance, I would have never fucked with him. Let's just let it go and leave it in the past, saying, if I knew he had a fiance, I would have never fucked with him. And then continuing to fuck with him.

[Rory]

After and then telling him, hey, I want you to be with your fiance and still fuck with you. Yo, Summer lives her rhyme.

[Mall]

Now, hold on now, see, this paints a whole different narrative now. Summer's wrong for that.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Rory]

I don't think anyone is saying she.

[Damaris]

Was wrong before you read these messages.

[Mall]

No, no, no. Because at first, from what I know, I thought she was just trying to play her role as the side, but now it looked like she was trying to manipulate and get. Get this nigga's main away from him so she can have the nigga that's fucked up.

[Rory]

It appears at one point that that was a thing, and I think it didn't work out. So she's like, well, I'll just go back to being the side.

[Damaris]

You do know that playing the side is also wrong right now. It's like, oh, some are wrong. She been fucking with somebody fiance. She's been wrong.

[Mall]

I mean, but you know, this era, they don't. All these girls is the same nigga. They all know that they fucking the same nigga. So it's.

[Damaris]

But the nigga is not Rich. The kid. I don't like.

[Rory]

I don't, like, sound like you hating.

[Damaris]

No, I'm not hating. I'm just. You saying all these girls richer.

[Mall]

The kid to you, all these women, they the same guys.

[Damaris]

Yes. But Rich. That'd be if, like, Rich was like one of the ones we talk about. Regular Rich been in the corner with Tory Bricks. Don't know what he been doing, but Rich been in the corner with Tory Bricks.

[Mall]

It ain't like he wanted to see what he been.

[Rory]

Haven't they been together for, like, a decade?

[Damaris]

Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

[Rory]

It's not like a. A home invasion with the two of them. And so, like, they've been through it. Yeah, this is why. This is why Richard is even iller. Because if you move on to when Torey was putting stuff up on her ig, she. Both women are defending him in this entire thing. She was like, yeah, I mean, we had some hiccups. I say, yo, he's the illest of all time. After you get outed of having the side chick that is Summer Walker, and then your fiance posts, hey, everyone has hiccups. Yeah, we just have to hold our breath. They'll go away.

[Mall]

Yeah. Y' all know I love Summer.

[Rory]

Richard is the illest of all time.

[Mall]

I love Summer. But this. This look bad, though. But I mean, listen, this is all on par. This is great marketing. New album is all about, you know, great marketing.

[Rory]

Do you think justice was behind us? No, no, no.

[Mall]

I know lvrn, but shit. One thing about lvrn, though, they gonna spend this the right way. They gonna use this. They gonna use this momentum for something. They leaving here with something.

[Damaris]

He leaving here with something.

[Mall]

Lvr and is leaving here with something for sure.

[Rory]

But, I mean, that's why. But that's also why Summer is kind of like Teflon in everything. This is. This is the best part of always being yourself. Summer has been herself her entire career. How she showed up, this was my past. This is what I did before. Like, you can't really shit on someone that has told you exactly who they are throughout their entire career. Ah.

[Damaris]

Summer has not told you that she was a side chick. A lot of Summer's music has been about being being cheated on. That's a lot of her music has.

[Rory]

Been about being cheated, I'm saying. But she. She has things where in the R B songstress world would be deemed as tacky or taboo or, like, she shouldn't have been a stripper because there hasn't been a stripper that did. Oh, yeah. Like, she's always been. I hate, because it sounds corny, unapologetically herself.

[Damaris]

Oh, yeah.

[Rory]

Her whole career of, like, she's not going to try to clean something up. If she did some, she'll be like, yeah, I did that.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Rory]

So you can't really say anything to the person that is always themselves at all times. And that's what Summer been. That's also why people love her music and love her because we know exactly who we're looking at and listening to.

[Damaris]

Do you think that this. Do you think that this changes her real relatability with her core audience?

[Rory]

No, I think it adds to it. I think this. This helps. Yeah, I think it helps.

[Mall]

This is her villain origin right here. Now she about to be the villain. She was. She was. She was the one getting done wrong early. Right now. It's like, okay, but you not.

[Damaris]

But see, there's a difference between. Okay, so there's a difference between the girl who gets cheated on gets cheated on and then she just go and start dogging niggas, right? And the girl that gets cheated on gets cheated on and then starts giving someone else the same problems that she was getting. Are you seeing what I'm saying?

[Mall]

Cold hearted. She don't got no emotions, no feelings. She's not thinking about nobody else being hurt, nobody else being, you know, she just out here doing what she want to do. Like she said. That's her trick. You know what I mean? Like she. She said, I only have sex with him like twice a year. I don't like him. That's gangster, yo.

[Rory]

That's what I.

[Mall]

Well, all of those text messages come out. You get on live and say, I don't even like him. That is crazy.

[Damaris]

I only fuck him like twice a year. And he be doing all this. I don't even like the nigga for sure.

[Rory]

She said twice a year. All right, three times a year. Which meant. She really meant eight.

[Mall]

Yeah, yeah. She forgot about four of those times.

[Rory]

Twice.

[Damaris]

Twice a quarter ain't bad.

[Mall]

That. I mean.

[Rory]

Hey, yeah, listen. The way R B and pop with women used to be, they had to be perfect. Why people love Summer and Sza is because of their imperfections and honesty. Like, this is exactly who I am. And that's why we love Summer and Sza. It's not what it used to be with R and B, where you had to be this perfect angel.

[Damaris]

What Cardi say if I take your. I don't want to hear no crying because y' all ain't say. Another reason why people, when they was out here, mine.

[Rory]

Why people love Cardi B too. You know exactly who the fuck you're getting. Cardi will always be herself.

[Mall]

Nice titties. Big butt. Stole my name under Pizza Hut.

[Damaris]

Yo.

[Rory]

Twice a year didn't even nut.

[Mall]

Twice a year, didn't even nut. Soma is sick.

[Rory]

Oh, my God. Yo, I like go girl. Even better now.

[Mall]

Yo, all of that shit sound like it's. It sound better now with all of this coming out. It's like, yo, she really living her bars.

[Rory]

And again, relatability. Like, let's not act like there's thousands of women like Summer that do this. Like, oh, man, this isn't rare.

[Mall]

No, this is not rare.

[Rory]

This is just down to every last thing she said.

[Mall]

This was just. We just didn't expect to hear this. We didn't expect Rich the Kid to be caught up with Summer Walker. So, I mean, listen, man. Shout out to Shout out my nigga Gucci. Shout out Rich the Kid, man. You know what I'm saying? I wasn't familiar with his game. I thought he was. You know what I mean? I thought he was out there just like, yo, you know, go get got the kids. I got wifey. I'm cool. I'm chilling.

[Rory]

I mean, I need the album now. When was the last time Rich dropped something?

[Damaris]

You know what would piss me off?

[Rory]

I need an album now.

[Damaris]

What would piss me off more than, like, everybody, like, finding out I was getting cheated on? Or more than a bitch fucking my nigga? You out here telling the world that my nigga is a trick. I know his DMs is going off like bombs over Baghdad right now.

[Rory]

Oh, see, all right. I never even knew this Rich the Kid is from Queens. The whole time I thought Atlanta.

[Mall]

Well, he, He. He was raised in. In Georgia, I think he was born in.

[Rory]

Nah, we're with. Nah, we claim Rich now. Listen, man, that's us.

[Mall]

Listen, I listen. I get it, man. Shout out Rich the Kid, man, I did not know. I had no idea.

[Damaris]

Yeah. Prayers to Tory Bricks. Cause I know what she going through ain't.

[Rory]

Oh, he went to Elmont High School. Come on, man. He's from New York.

[Mall]

You know Rich.

[Damaris]

That's Rich.

[Rory]

He's from New York.

[Damaris]

That's Rich.

[Mall]

You ain't no Rich.

[Rory]

The whole time I thought he was from Atlanta.

[Mall]

Nah, that's Rich, dawg. That's Rich. Come on, man.

[Rory]

Yeah. Cause this is some queen shit.

[Mall]

Definitely some queen shit. Hey, Juels. What's up with you, bro? I seen Juels on a podcast. What's the name of the podcast? Cause I do like those gentlemen.

[Rory]

I don't know.

[Mall]

I can't read no funny shit. Shout out to no funny shit. Podcast Juels was on there and Juelz was making a point of saying, you know, nowadays kids don't even really need to know how to read. He was talking about what's more important reading? The math. And he said math? He said, cause kids really don't need to learn how to read. Now, I kind of understand what Juaz was saying. It landed wrong.

[Rory]

Harlem will try to protect each other.

[Mall]

No, listen, but with technology and things like that, you can just ask your phone something. It'll read the whole transcript to you. You can go on YouTube. Anything you need to learn. I understand what he is saying. With technology, it really does dumb you down because you don't Need. You don't need to know how to read because technology will pretty much do anything for you if you ask your phone.

[Rory]

Okay, let's live in Joel's world for a second. Just for the sake of podcasting thing versus reading and math. What would be more important? Me knowing how to read with technology or me just opening my calculator on my phone and not knowing math? I can ask Chad GBT any equation on earth with math. I think reading. Yeah. I couldn't even ask chat GBT if I didn't know how to read.

[Mall]

Yeah, no, no, no, you can ask them. You wouldn't be able to read what it pulls up like you. You wouldn't be able.

[Damaris]

No, because if you can't read, you can't write. So you wouldn't be able to ask him.

[Mall]

That's not true.

[Damaris]

How the fuck can you read without knowing how to write, Ma? I mean, how the fuck can you write without knowing how to read?

[Mall]

There's a lot of people that could write that don't know how to read. You'd be surprised. People can write and don't know how to read 100%. They don't know how to spell. I'm not saying everything is gonna be spelled correctly. I'm not saying things are gonna have the correct punctuation marks. People can write and not know how to read.

[Rory]

What's my guy from Drumline, the evil conductor? He told Nick Cannon, some folks can't read the signed bathroom doesn't mean they don't know how to use it.

[Mall]

Exactly.

[Rory]

He was ahead of his time.

[Mall]

That's what else is saying right there. That's what else was getting off right there. Y' all ain't even. Y' all ain't even know. Make the correlation. That's what else is saying. But no, I. It. Yeah.

[Rory]

How can kids even find the 2 5th exit? Damn. We already. Already we home.

[Mall]

Yeah. No, you got to be able to read the. Gotta be able to read the exits. So Juelz was trying to make a point. I understood what he was saying. But no, kids do need to know how to read.

[Rory]

I don't think we need to debate this.

[Mall]

Kids do need to know how to read.

[Rory]

This is why people say, let's get rid of the microphones for all podcasts. This is not a debate.

[Mall]

Yo, shout out to no funny shit. I like those guys.

[Rory]

No, I'm not saying about them. I'm saying us even debating this.

[Mall]

But Juel's. You missed the mark with that one. I understand his thinking, though. I understand I don't. No, I do. I understand the thinking of. Because with technology, you really, you know, all of the. That shit is like, you know, kids learn. Kids know how to open and unlock the iPads when they're 2, 3 years old before they know how to write. You can, you can attest to that. I'm sure Amara knows how to open her for sure iPad. Ask her to write her name or something. She would have a harder time with that.

[Rory]

I. I know, but I think, like, hear me out. I feel like Amara should learn how to read.

[Mall]

No, I'm, I'm not.

[Damaris]

Hear me out.

[Mall]

We're not. We're not debating that. Kids should 100% know how to read.

[Rory]

Come on.

[Mall]

Kids should know how to read.

[Rory]

This is just what being a father is about. I don't want the credit. You know, they keep giving it to me.

[Mall]

I don't know why they keep giving it to me. Yes, kids should know how to read and write and do math.

[Rory]

I'm just trying to be a good example, maybe a father influencer.

[Mall]

He was speaking to our dependence on technology now like, it's more than it's ever been. So, yes, kids learn how to read, learn how to write, learn your math, go to school, get an education, do all of those things. Because that is just the foundation of it all.

[Rory]

I can need that. Only imagine what it was like when Juel got home and Kim Bella was like, what the fuck did you just. You don't want our children to read?

[Mall]

Listen, man. Shout out to Pras. Pras has been sentenced.

[Rory]

Yo, that's the wildest shout out to.

[Mall]

14 years in prison for illegal lobbying. This was something that I think I probably knew for years was gonna happen. People that I know that are kind of like not close to the situation, but. But they kind of knew what was going on and knew where it was headed. But it is official. Ex Fugees Musician Prize has been sentenced to 14 years in prison for using money to peddle influence in US politics. The prosecutors has recommended a life sentence for the Grammy winning artist after he was found guilty of corruption and other charges, including acting as an unregistered foreign agent and witness tampering in 2023. His attorney said the sentence is completely disproportionate to the offense and that they will appeal. But as of right now, he has been sentenced to 14 years in prison. So listen, man, Pras, keep your head up.

[Rory]

This is ridiculous.

[Mall]

They're gonna appeal and we'll see what happens from there.

[Rory]

This is absolutely ridiculous.

[Mall]

I mean, listen, man, separate podcast laws are broken.

[Rory]

I can go on my rant of this. This is absolutely fucking ridiculous. This is a regular practice amongst all politicians. I'm not saying what pras did was correct.

[Mall]

Right?

[Rory]

But I get it. He got a. A photo with Obama for some Chinese guy for a million dollars. Whatever. This is literally how politics go. The amount of people that are doing this while we're recording this right now and not even being looked at is absolutely absurd.

[Mall]

Yeah, but acting as an unregistered foreign agent.

[Rory]

Okay, let's. You know what? I think we should go after the registered ones that do way worse than what PR is doing. Right?

[Mall]

I mean, listen, the registered ones are. They're registered.

[Rory]

Maybe we should register. Apex.

[Mall]

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[Rory]

Why is that not a problem?

[Mall]

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[Rory]

I just feel like more important than PR from the Fujis for getting photos with Obama.

[Mall]

Hit it, Josh.

[Rory]

Wait, we more. We had more stuff to get to before we got to voicemails. No, you keep all this speech.

[Damaris]

Nothing. That's.

[Rory]

Oh, no. I want to talk about Donald Glover real quick. Brick. I know you guys don't, like, love Childish Gambino the way I do, but I didn't know. I mean, I knew he had health problems, but I know he suffered a stroke last year, had to go off. Off his tour, hole in his heart. Yeah, I was very surprised by all that news.

[Mall]

He had a stroke, right?

[Rory]

Yeah, he. In Houston. He. His vision was up and he went to the hospital and he had a stroke. And then all the fans gotten his mentions either calling him lazy or low tickets and sales because he had a stroke.

[Mall]

That checks out.

[Rory]

And I thought his speech at Camp Vlogna, one of the better jokes that didn't get the laugh it deserved. He said, here I go, copying Jamie Foxx once again. I thought that was hilarious.

[Mall]

That's funny.

[Rory]

It's funny.

[Mall]

But I'm glad he's. He's feeling better.

[Rory]

Yeah. Prayers of Donald Glover.

[Mall]

Donald Glover. Talented Donald Glover.

[Rory]

But, yeah, I thought that was wild. I feel like that should get more.

[Mall]

Scary just having a stroke so young like that. Yeah. And Donald Glover seems to be in, you know, shape, like, overweight, like, yes, that's tough.

[Rory]

And then I hate when people are like, well, check your health. Always go to your checkup appointments. Like, yeah, I hear you, but that's not gonna. When I get a checkup, they're not gonna know if I'm about to have a stroke.

[Damaris]

Yeah, you can't, like, Kind of look that up.

[Rory]

Up. Yeah, like, rhythms, like, stuff like that.

[Mall]

I mean, if it's something like that, they can probably see it before it turns.

[Rory]

And I'm not here to tell anyone. No, you should always get your checkups. But saying always look into your health. But this is one of those that just has me more paranoid. It's like, certain, like, that you're not even gonna know about. If you're in that type of shape that he's in and the age he is, like, you're just performing.

[Mall]

Like.

[Rory]

Yeah, I could barely see. I didn't know I was having a stroke on stage.

[Mall]

Right? Yeah, that's. I thought it was the lights. Like, I didn't think I was. I was about to. My lights was about to go out. I didn't think. Yeah, like. Nah, seriously, think about it. You have a stroke and don't know. Like, you don't expect it. That's. That's scary. Yeah, that's scary shit. But, you know, glad he's okay.

[Rory]

Hole in your heart, like.

[Mall]

Yeah, like, that's. Yeah, man. I don't know. But I'm just. I'm just glad he's, you know, he's okay.

[Rory]

Also, before we get to voicemails, we get a Stove Got album this week. Hey. I'm like, does anyone else? Like I said, I don't know how I'm gonna put together this list for end of the year rap albums for 2025.

[Mall]

I am excited about this. Stove God goat stamp, November 28th. I've been waiting for this one. Stove God, you know, to me, I mean, been supporting him forever. His first album, Reasonable Drought, classic. But I've been waiting for this follow up. So, so glad that we got a date. Glad it's finally dropping. Looking forward to it. I know that talk is going to be impeccable.

[Rory]

The. The records that I have heard from. This is the best music I've heard from still God. The ones I have heard, I didn't hear the full project, but the records that I have heard that are on. This is the best music I've heard Stove God make, which is saying something, because Reasonable Drought to me, is a modern classic.

[Mall]

Absolutely.

[Rory]

So I'm super excited for that.

[Mall]

Gold stamp, November 28th. Stove God Rocky's putting out album January 16th.

[Rory]

Come on, man. All right, let's just get some voicemails.

[Mall]

I mean, listen, don't be dumb. Still a goat, but don't be dumb. Number one. He's number one on that list for sure. No worrying now.

[Rory]

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[Mall]

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[Rory]

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[Mall]

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[Damaris]

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[Damaris]

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[Damaris]

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[Mall]

Voicemails Josh, hit it. You've got mail. Yo, yo, what's up Rory? Mall baby D shouts out to Peach yo, this voicemail is about being a stand up or in Roy's case, being a stand up dude. And I guess in Tamaris's case being a stand up.

[Rory]

I knew he was gonna go there.

[Mall]

Respectfully of course.

[Rory]

Yo, you ever know some information.

[Mall]

About somebody and you're just such a stand up nigga that you can never let them know. You just gotta let them live in their Delulu, my homegirl, she telling me all about her best friend and how she's amazing and faithful and good mom and loves her man and out of the house. Oh, wow. Her friend been cheating on her man with my nigga. So she's telling me all these things and little does she know. If she were to know, oh, I'll blow that whole shit up, but I'm a stand up nigga. I will never tell her. Gotta let her live in her Delulu.

[Rory]

Is this guy friends with Tory Bricks.

[Mall]

But another, another situation. You gotta be a stand up nigga. And I love ma, but this nigga Mal been in my girl's DMs. 40. Okay, part two. This nigga, this nigga Maul been in my girl's DMs for years, yo. For a year. I'm talking.

[Rory]

He's not as stand up as he says he is. I mean, now he's fishing.

[Mall]

You know, she let me. She, you know, she let me see. She let me see all her dms. If I, you know, this lying or whatever. And.

[Rory]

Maybe he's not way back, way back. Doesn't mean that. But I'm a stand up.

[Damaris]

Oh my. He's not. Turn it off, turn it off, turn it off, turn it off.

[Mall]

No, no, no. You can't tell fair. I'm gonna hit hear the rest of it. Why don't talk to him. Just pull it back a little bit. You know what I mean? That's, that's the whole being a great.

[Damaris]

Thank you.

[Mall]

I don't even know what he's saying now. Y' all talking over the whole. I don't even know what I'm saying.

[Rory]

Bring it back.

[Damaris]

He wasn't saying any.

[Rory]

Bring it back.

[Damaris]

He wasn't saying anything.

[Mall]

Even, even, even. Even that. Even with that, you don't know. You know what I mean? That's, that's the whole being a great side nigga, you know what I mean?

[Rory]

Like, we see all the time, people.

[Mall]

Be fucking posting screenshots and that. Yo, yo, be solid. Keep it real. You know, this might be dry snitching, but I see you, bro. You ain't low.

[Rory]

I love the comments sense.

[Mall]

Yeah, I see. I see it all. I see it all.

[Rory]

So where do we want to begin? Do we. Do you want to address the latter first?

[Mall]

I'll be in your girl's dms.

[Rory]

Here's my thing, though, because when people say be in dms, that's almost like equivalent to like when girls be like, oh, he tried to talk to me and all you all you said was.

[Mall]

Hey, or just like, like the story or what money bags on the story.

[Rory]

Yeah. Why I think it's bullshit is if you was really in the in her dms, he would have an issue. She would be replying like, I don't think you're talking to nobody.

[Mall]

Definitely not. Definitely not.

[Rory]

Are you trying to find right now?

[Mall]

No, I'm not.

[Rory]

Oh, I thought, I thought I was.

[Mall]

Trying to hear what he was saying because I was hoping he would say who his girl was at one point, but not.

[Rory]

No, he's stand up, all that.

[Mall]

I got that part. I heard that like, he said that like seven times.

[Damaris]

I'm saying, I'mma stand up, I'mma stand up, I'mma stand up. Stand up. Ain't got to say that. They stand up. And then second of all, in the very first part of the voicemail, he like, nah, but I. I ain't tell homegirl that her girl be cheating with my man's because I'm a stand up nigga. You. You want to applaud a fish for swimming.

[Rory]

You just.

[Damaris]

You want to say something so bad, like you want to be messy so bad. So you want us to congratulate you for not being messy.

[Rory]

All right, let me ask you a question on. On that scenario, I feel like it'd be more stand up if same scenario with you and I, if I know some shit going on, I'm gonna tell you like, you're my friend.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Isn't it more stand up? That's not snitching. I'm telling my friend some that's happening to them, but I would want my friend to do the same with me.

[Damaris]

But it's not some that's happening to the friend. It's. It's like if. It's like if Maul was sitting there telling me like, yo, Rory really such a good guy. Rory's such a good guy. He don't be dogging his. And whole time I know Rory dogging his with one of my friends, so. But I don't tell mall. That's not state. Like, it doesn't affect mall at all.

[Rory]

Okay, gotcha. Yeah, in that scenario, I would just shut the up and.

[Damaris]

Yeah, business.

[Rory]

Yeah, that'll make you stand up to just. Just shut up. Okay. Somebody is doing some. If you're telling me, yo, my man, stand up. And I know something else. I'm gonna tell you what's going on. It's not snitching. It's being a good friend. But I don't know why that that latter part is weird. Is like, if it's been for years, that means your girl has been replying back to mall for years. Because I don't think mall is DMing a woman with no response.

[Damaris]

Why everybody saying all BNA dms? I've been seeing that a lot on the Internet lately.

[Rory]

All right, if you put. If you put an emoji on a story, is that in someone's dms, or am I just putting a fire emoji next to your. Am I in your dm?

[Mall]

So if it's your birthday and you personally post, like, your birthday and I say happy birthday, that's in your dm.

[Damaris]

No. Okay, now, the fire emojis. The fire emojis, People get away. People get away with that and be like, oh, I ain't in your dms, I just sent the fire emoji. If you would have responded to this and said fire emoji, that's you being in my DMs. Like, you. Okay, all right, cool. If. If it happens once, whatever. But if I'm continuously posting pictures where I look cute and you're continuously commenting on me looking cute, that's you in my DMs, you're hoping that I respond. You're hoping that I say something. Because otherwise, you could just hit the.

[Rory]

Little cute, or it's just a fire.

[Damaris]

Photo, which is fine, but you could. If you like the photo, you could just hit the little, like, button in the corner. You don't got to send it.

[Rory]

What he puts the extra effort in.

[Mall]

Oh, yeah, I go the extra mile.

[Damaris]

Yeah, because you know that that goes to my DMS, you know that that goes to my DMs. When you send a fire emoji, you know, it comes as a dm. You. If you send it as a little, like, it's just a little, like, I just see the like.

[Rory]

By definition, yes, I'm in your dms, but we know what it means. He was in my DMs. The same way when girls lie. Yo, he tried to talk to me, and all you said was hi. No, I didn't try to talk to you.

[Mall]

Said hello.

[Damaris]

Oh, what you say hi?

[Rory]

Did I talk to you? Yes. Did I try?

[Damaris]

Like.

[Rory]

Because you know what that means. Tried to talk to me.

[Damaris]

But what did you say hi for?

[Rory]

Polite.

[Damaris]

Polite. We are in the streets. You didn't have to say hi to me. We're on the Internet. You. If you wouldn't have said hi to.

[Rory]

Me, no one would have thought of example, I've seen women say, roy Tried to talk to me and I've laughed at something they posted and then we had a three word exchange.

[Damaris]

Okay, well yes, that's different.

[Rory]

But you can. I'm saying that could be the same thing of saying he was in my DMs. I wasn't in your DMs. I replied to some shit that you posted.

[Damaris]

I agree with that. But the. The comments. If you're commenting on my looks or saying hi when it's not necessary for you to say hi. Hi is literally you trying to speak to someone. Yes. I feel like. So what you saying hi for? We on the Internet. I didn't know that you was thinking of me. Why are you saying hi?

[Rory]

He tried to talk like all right, so I asked if I could take you on a date. To me that's. I tried to talk to you. Okay. Just having an exchange on DM as just the start of a conversation to me should not. That was you suffice as me testing the water. Yeah. Like if I want. If I'm like, hey, would you be interested in grabbing a drink or something? Yeah, that's me trying to talk to you.

[Mall]

Me. Just respond. Me reply. Responding to your post with like an emoji or something. It's not me trying to.

[Damaris]

No, I don't. I don't think that. But it's not.

[Mall]

Technically it's in your dm, so if you want to use that as a technicality, it's in your dm.

[Rory]

So.

[Mall]

Okay, that's it.

[Rory]

But I mean words have different.

[Mall]

But him saying that is like your fam. Who your girl. You might as well just tell me that at this point. Who your girl, dog.

[Rory]

Should we get him on the Zoom Zoom room? He might be a good Zoom Zoom.

[Mall]

Get him on the Zoom Zoom room.

[Damaris]

And if his girl. If. If that's true and you really be in his girl DMs for years and he won't. And he won't tell you who his girl is. That's cuz she over there. Like don't do that. Don't embarrass me. Don't do that app.

[Rory]

Not even that. I just feel like anonymous. But it's attack. There should be a. A email in the settings. We can find it. We sell everyone's data that does this, by the way, just to let you guys know I'm joking. I just feel like it would be a different conversation of him calling into a podcast to joke around about it if Maul was really in his girl's DMs for years to Me, I think it's just mall replying to an IG story or something. Yeah, that's not in your DMs for years.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Unless. I mean, I wouldn't expect this from you. I. I just don't think you're DMing women for years that don't reply.

[Mall]

I'm not. So I'm not.

[Rory]

Just don't strike me as the type.

[Mall]

Yeah, doing that. But I mean, listen, it made for a good story, right? Good voicemail, I guess. I don't know. But yeah, let's see if. Well, he's anonymous, so we can't get him in his own zoom, right?

[Damaris]

We'll see.

[Rory]

Yeah, we'll. We'll figure out if not. If you're listening to this, reach out to the new Roy Mall email.

[Mall]

I feel like we've had. Didn't we. I feel like we heard one of those something like that before. What Somebody was. Somebody said that would be in. In this girl's dms, apparently.

[Damaris]

You being dms, what's going on with you? And I'll be over here like, I'm all, me, mom, me more. Don't be in nobody DMs, Ma. Don't be with these. And every time somebody saying you in them DMs, DMs going crazy.

[Mall]

Going crazy is crazy. I haven't gone crazy and I don't know how many years in.

[Rory]

In dms. Like, what does that mean exactly?

[Mall]

What is going crazy?

[Damaris]

Damaris. I mean DMing multiple women when I say going crazy. DMing multiple women. Awesome.

[Rory]

Flirty on some flirty if you're single. What's wrong with flirting with people?

[Damaris]

Nobody said anything was wrong.

[Rory]

I'm not saying to you.

[Damaris]

No, but period. Nobody said. Nobody said that it was wrong. It's just he being dms, going crazy, allegedly. That's what is being alleged pledge.

[Mall]

Okay, yeah, y' all gotta start telling me y' all girls names. Like we're gonna put it into this. Y' all ain't gonna just be calling it. So. I mean, your girl DMs. Who your girl, dog. Cause she probably lying. And if she's showing you something, okay.

[Rory]

It'S a wild lie.

[Mall]

But I'm saying if she's showing you something. If she's showing me in your DMs, who your girl it. Let's. Let's just get to that. Who's your girl?

[Rory]

But I also, like, I don't know. My. My last relationship, I would see people, famous people in the request dm. I. I didn't feel away like they don't know none the wiser. Like, I think my girl's attractive. Of course people are gonna DM her. Like, I didn't think that.

[Mall]

Right?

[Rory]

It's all in requests with no replies. Like, I don't, I don't care about that. So that's why I find that odd. Like yo maul being my girls dm. Well, I don't know. Is your girl attractive.

[Mall]

And, and, and, and is she sing single sometimes.

[Rory]

And why is she replying sometimes your girl be single? Hey man, because I'm never mad at someone trying to DM my. My girl, but if she replied, now I'm mad and I'm not mad at you.

[Mall]

I don't know. I don't even know you.

[Rory]

Yeah, but shooting your shot like anybody else.

[Mall]

Sometimes your girl be single.

[Rory]

So I don't know, sometimes your girl be single. Should be a teacher.

[Damaris]

Be like that.

[Rory]

Be like that sometimes. Sometimes your girl be.

[Mall]

Sometimes your girl be single, dog. Like, I don't know what to tell you. Like. Yeah, you know what I mean?

[Rory]

Sometimes your girl know Rich the kid.

[Mall]

Yes. All summer. Sometimes your girl know both of them. Rich and Summer. Oh, man, we got another one.

[Rory]

Yo, what up, day one listener Been listening to y' all since I was literally, I think in high school.

[Mall]

Appreciate that, man. Thank you.

[Rory]

30 year old man now. So crazy. Really been growing up with y' all in my ears, which is kind of crazy. Crazy paw haws. Because y' all get. Y' all get called ignorant about the South a lot. I think y' all are too well traveled and y' all from all my years of listening, y' all bring up Southern rap almost to say y', all, we don't give enough praise to it is what y' all say. But I'm very ignorant to the Northeast. I've never traveled up there. I've only traveled outside the country. So I really want to know. Answer these questions, please. Like, I have some questions for you. You. And they may sound dumb, but you have to realize like these are real questions. Do y' all really have rats that are like, you know, the size of cats? Do. Do people in lower income areas really grow up below a. Above a pizza restaurant, in a Chinese restaurant? When you step outside, you're just in the. Not even in low income. And I know there's different locations to live. I'm not that dumb. I'm not. This makes me sound really stupid. I love all. Why do all the rich people own apartments and not houses? 2500 square foot home in Texas is Like a really nice starter home. But a 2500 square foot home in New York is like on the front page of our architectural. Architectural Digest. I am dumb. Yeah. I was just. Why is it. What is the minimum income to live there? I like this kid a lot, by the way.

[Damaris]

No comment.

[Rory]

He's hilarious. With New York, I don't. I don't obviously agree with how egregious the prices are for rent, property tax, mortgage, anything crazy. But you are paying for location. Whereas a millionaire may buy a small square footage because they're in the middle of Manhattan, they're paying for the location less than they're paying for what the apartment is. Like. You could find a $4,000 a month, month apartment in the city that only has one closet. And you'd be like, what idiot would do that? And I agree with you. But they're paying to live in New York. Not paying for the apartment is usually how that goes. But we're getting over. I mean, I don't know when Dami's gonna. He's gonna bulldoze the entire city and just rebuild free houses for all of us. First come, first serve. The keys will be under the mat and you could just go there. So everything's gonna change, clearly, because that's what the mayor has the power to do.

[Mall]

The mayor has that power. Absolutely.

[Rory]

Not the governor. Not the mayor can do all this.

[Mall]

The mayor. I do appreciate those questions, though. It just shows that. How some people that have never been in New York City like that, they really don't believe that people, like, I see people all the time when they show like these one bedroom apartments or these studio apartments, and they'd be like, there's no way that people live in these. And I'm like, yeah.

[Rory]

All the comments on YouTube, Instagram, when they show those. I agree with everyone that shits on New York and those, like, why would anyone pay $3,500 a month for this? I agree with you.

[Mall]

A friend of mine was, can't live in New York. She had won an apartment, like a lottery, and it was like one of those new, like, luxury buildings. And I was like, I'm going with. I just want to see what this looks like. Because it was a studio. I said, I just want to see. Yo, we walked in there, like, he. Oh, first of all, you can't even say, he walked in. He opened the door. That shit was so small. I got anxiety standing in. That's how small that shit was. I said, yo, y' all want what? To live in here? This is it don't even make like that shit looked like just a big ass, like, closet. It was like literally you open the door, you see straight to the only window. So it's like the window was like the whole wall. And you view of the water, all incredible view.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mall]

But it's literally just this. And then the bathroom, the stove, the fridge.

[Rory]

Yeah. And then your sheets are gonna smell like whatever you're cooking.

[Mall]

I was like, yo, who. Why would somebody even design this?

[Rory]

Like, floor to ceiling windows is what I think tricks a lot of people. Like, you're literally buying a closet, but just because the window ends at the floor, you're like, well, this is great.

[Mall]

Nah, that gave me anxiety looking at that. I was like, yo, nobody can't live in here. I mean, you put a bed in here. That's it. You put a. What is it? A. A day bed. Like a. Like a futon or something and a chair. And it's like, all right, now I'm at the stove. Who's hungry? Like, you know, at that point, like, what am I? I just don't understand.

[Rory]

Like.

[Mall]

And that's only. We talking about. I think that shit was like $2,000.

[Rory]

I think you're probably underselling what it was. Studios are more than $2,000 right now.

[Damaris]

No, but she had the. She won the lottery. So the build.

[Mall]

The building was incredible. The building was incredible. The amenities were incredible. You gotta pay for the amenities in those buildings. This is what I'm saying. But I'm like, when it's time for me to go to where I live, like, you want me to go in here? This is like a. A nice sized coffin. Like, I'm not. I just didn't understand how people really, like, expect people to live out there. But this gentleman, he's obviously never been in New York like that. So he really wants to know, like, is that real? Do people grow 100%? These cats are. I mean, these rats. Fucking huge. Yes. You grew up on. You live on top of a pizza spot, bodega. It's all real. Everything you've seen on shows and films, it's all real.

[Rory]

I will say my damaris. You remember my first apartment?

[Damaris]

Yes. In Jersey.

[Rory]

It was in Jersey City.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Rory]

My first. First one.

[Mall]

One.

[Rory]

I lived above a fish spot and a pizza spot and a Chinese spot. The whole building was. It was a pizza spot, Chinese spot, our door, then a fish spot. I'm a clean human being. I even have OCD to some degree when it comes to cleanliness. When you live above restaurants, your Entire house will be infested with every roach, centipede, mouse. The. We shared the. The trash room and laundry room were shared with those three restaurants. I saw rats the size of dogs, not cats. They were eating so good back there.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Rory]

And one time I locked myself out. So I. I asked the fish spot because their. Their back door of the fish spot went into. To my, like, lobby. So I asked him was like, yo, I locked myself out. I just go this way. When I went behind there, I said, now I know why I have roaches crawling on my bed. Yeah. This is the dirtiest thing my. My advice to anyone living in New York. Don't get an apartment above a restaurant. You're.

[Mall]

Yeah, I wouldn't. I wouldn't.

[Rory]

You're. And I mean, it happens to. I'd say 60 of apartments in New York probably are on top of restaurant Mike. That was some of the. The nastiest ever. Like, I couldn't clean enough, and it still was like, roach, roach. Yeah, because it's just dirty down there. But I. Again, all the jobs are. Are here, though. Like, if you go to college and there's only so many majors, you're gonna have to go to a major city that is gonna be super overpriced, and you're gonna have to get a studio apartment and pay some ridiculous amount out. Not everyone can live in the south or middle America with the job market that they select. So I. I'm jealous of all the people in the South. Yeah, I hear you, Darius. I'm just rambling. I. I wish we could live in the South.

[Mall]

I do, too.

[Rory]

We still can. It's not too late.

[Mall]

Well, happy holiday. Happy Thanksgiving.

[Rory]

Yes.

[Mall]

We'll talk to y' all soon. Everybody, enjoy the time with your family, enjoy the time with your friends, and we'll talk to y' all soon. Be safe, be blessed. I'm that nigga. He's just ginger. And you're a drive turkey.

[Rory]

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