Episode 428 | Nutcracker

Summary

New Rory & MAL – Episode 428 | Nutcracker

Release Date: December 2, 2025
Podcast by iHeartPodcasts and The Volume

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Episode Overview

This episode of New Rory & MAL brings listeners new personal stories, industry recaps, and lively banter, with themes circling adulting through the holidays, Thanksgiving adventures, reflections on aging, New York culture, industry beefs, and rapid-fire analysis of recent hip-hop happenings. Listeners get authentic and comical perspectives from Rory, Damaris, and Baby D, with highlights on Max B’s return, Jussie Smollett’s controversy, T-Pain vs. DJ Khaled, and the viral NLE Choppa moment. The crew maintains their signature conversational blend of irreverence, honesty, and nostalgia.

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Main Themes & Discussion Highlights

1. The Holidays, Aging, and Adulting

• Reflections on Growing Older

  • Rory shares feelings about turning 36:

    "Like, I’ll be 36 next year. That, like, kind of me up." (03:24)

  • Damaris and Rory discuss how bruises and aches arrive unexpectedly in your 30s.

• Thanksgiving: From Guests to Hosts

  • The crew laments the transition from enjoying holidays to hosting ("Now we gotta be the ones that, like, host Thanksgiving now." – Damaris, 05:38).
  • Rory recounts how cooking and hosting "kicked his ass":

    "I was so tired after cooking all that shit, I didn’t even want to eat." (06:27)

  • Baby D and Damaris describe the exhaustion and lack of social media flexing due to being busy with real life.

2. NYC Culture: Nutcrackers and Blackout Wednesdays

• Nutcrackers – NY’s Infamous Street Cocktail

  • Damaris describes a rough night three Nutcrackers deep:

    "I had like maybe three nutcrackers. It was crazy... I left the car running, went upstairs, went to sleep. He had to park it in the lot. Yeah, it was bad." (14:09)

  • The crew explains Nutcrackers (homemade booze concoctions) for non-NY listeners:

    "It’s everything that is in your cabinet that is almost running on empty, and you just pour it all in one bottle and add fruit pumps." – Damaris (14:57)

• Thanksgiving Eve / Blackout Wednesday

  • Baby D explains Blackout Wednesday’s college roots and party culture:

    "If you’re from a college town... everyone comes home, and it’s such a big occasion..." (19:27)

  • Stories about wild party nights and quick shoutouts to friends from hometown and social media.

3. Music Industry Round-Up

• Max B’s Return & The Jim Jones Tension

  • Discussion of Max B’s performance with Stove God at Brooklyn Paramount.
  • Flex plays “Touched It in Miami" – a diss record. Crew debates whether Max B or DJ Funkmaster Flex was out of line.
  • Damaris notes:

    "Once you see the footage, it looked like he was enjoying his time up there... you gotta be very careful." (33:42)

  • Rory:

    "If Max is my enemy, he’s gonna do whatever the he’s gonna do. I’d probably be looking at Flex crazier than I would be looking at Max." (34:52)

• The Jussie Smollett/Cam Newton Interview

  • The pod jokes about the wildness of Jussie’s ongoing denial and the simulation-like state of the internet:

    "I’m fascinated by Jussie still doubling down on this entire thing." – Rory (23:44)

  • Damaris:

    "Do we think he can even admit that he was lying at this point?" (24:40)

  • Rory summarizes the interview as "two people talk for two hours and not say one thing of substance." (25:04)
  • They also critique Jussie’s narcissism and plug of new music:

    "His new single 'Breakout' is incredible. The song is great." – Rory (27:53)

• T-Pain vs. DJ Khaled and Music Industry Friendships

  • T-Pain’s comments about feeling discarded by DJ Khaled after a string of hits:

    "C was my best friend when he needed me for the first three albums. And then after that when I got a little colder, I don’t hear from KE..." – paraphrased by Rory (49:47)

  • Damaris describes DJ Khaled as "very self-serving, which is fine... that’s why he’s been the businessman that he’s been" (50:44)
  • Extensive analysis on transactional vs. real friendships in hip-hop:

    "Brother means nothing to the people in the music industry." – Rory (57:32)
    "Don’t say the people in the music industry. Just say brother don’t mean nothing to Khaled." – Damaris (60:29)

4. Hip Hop Power Rankings & Debates

• The Best From Philly and Rap Cities

  • Beanie Sigel’s “Top 5 Philly Rappers” list is debated:
    1. Black Thought
    2. Young Chris
    3. Freeway
    4. Meek Mill
    5. Gilly
    • Damaris: "Beans is #1."
    • Discussion of whether Eve deserves a spot, Gilly’s rap pedigree, and Philly/Detroit rap supremacy versus NY.

• Cities with The Best “Rappers’ Rappers”

  • The team compares Detroit and Philly to New York by pure bar-work, not song making, referencing Eminem, Royce, Elzhi, Big Pun, Jay, Nas, Biggie.
  • Rory: "I think M, Royce and Elzai is the craziest three when it comes to just rapping." (66:47)
  • Damaris defends NYC as the bar gold standard: "Jay Z, Nas and Biggie are the best rappers." (67:21)

• Game, Kendrick, and LA’s Mount Rushmore

  • Game claims he tried to sign Kendrick — the crew agrees it’s plausible and the hate is overblown.
  • Damaris: "I don't think Game is lying about it. That's very easy to see." (71:41)
  • Anticipation for new Game x DJ Drama Gangsta Grillz, with wild predictions about dis tracks.

5. Culture, TV, and Viral Moments

• Kim Kardashian's “Low Brain Activity” & Conspiracies

  • The team roasts the internet for assuming Kim K's frontal lobe test is paving the way for celebrity brain-chip sponsorships.
  • Damaris:

    "Kim K. finds out she has low brain activity... Now people are saying… you about to start sponsoring or you’re about to be the face of implant chips." (77:01)

  • Baby D explains the actual meaning medically (77:31).

• “Put Me On” Segment Recommendations

  • TV: “All Her Fault” (Prime/Peacock) – A suspense “who done it,” plus recaps of holiday binge fare (Honorable mention: "Succession").
  • Music:
    • Hales – Five EP (Rory: "Criminally underrated R&B.") (92:03)
    • Mona Leo – “Sexy Solon” (Houston rapper praised by Baby D)
    • NLE Choppa’s viral video & YoungBoy NBA diss – crew discusses its wildness, style, and meme-worthy moments.

6. Fan Interaction & Voicemails

• A listener asks about favorite bonding moments with parents. The crew shares meaningful adult moments with their folks — music, TV watching, trips, and seeing parents as flawed humans (98:04).

• Mariah Carey Standom Debated

  • The Mariah vs. Beyoncé vs. Jasmine Sullivan vocal debate leads to jokes and Baby D introducing "Lambs" as Mariah’s fanbase.

    "Mariah may have the worst name fan base of all time." – Rory (108:17)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

On Aging & Hosting

• Rory: "I cannot believe it’s the last month of 2025. Like that whole saying of, like, when you get older, years go quicker. And… I’ll be 36 next year. That, like, kind of me up." (03:24)
• Damaris: "It’s a weird thing, getting older." (04:31)

On Holiday Exhaustion

• Rory: "I was so tired after cooking all that shit, I didn’t even want to eat." (06:27)
• Damaris: "You probably bumped your Knee around the house and just didn’t even realize..." (04:53)

On Nutcrackers and NY Lore

• Damaris: "Nutcrackers: death juice." (14:55)
• Damaris: "It's everything that is in your cabinet that is almost running on empty, and you just pour it all in one bottle and add fruit pumps." (14:57)

On Max B / Jim Jones Tension

• Rory: "If Max is my enemy, he’s gonna do whatever the he’s gonna do. I’d probably be looking at Flex crazier than I would Max." (34:52)
• Damaris: "You can’t two-step into the song..." (32:33)

On Jussie Smollet

• Rory: "I am fascinated by Jussie still doubling down… I used to laugh at it. Now it’s getting to a point where he may harm somebody." (23:44)
• Damaris: "Do we think that he can even admit that he was lying at this point?" (24:40)

On DJ Khaled & Industry "Brotherhood"

• Rory: "Brother means nothing to the people in the music industry." (57:32)
• Damaris: "Don’t say the people in the music industry. Just say brother don’t mean nothing to Khaled." (60:29)

On Cities with the Best Rappers

• Rory: "I think M, Royce and Elzai is the craziest three when it comes to just rapping." (66:47)
• Damaris: "Jay, Nas and Biggie are the best rappers." (67:21)

On Kim K’s Frontal Lobe

• Damaris: "Kim K Finds out she has low brain activity in her frontal lobe. Now people are saying…you’re about to be the face of implant chips." (77:01)
• Baby D (on what “low brain activity” means): "It can indicate issues with executive function, like planning, reasoning, impulse control and motivation..." (77:31)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Holiday/Aging Talk: 03:20–05:07
• Thanksgiving Host Stories: 05:36–07:10
• Nutcracker Explainers & NY Lore: 13:00–15:12
• Blackout Wednesday & Party Antics: 19:27–20:24
• Max B, Jim Jones, & Flex Drama: 29:45–38:42
• Jussie Smollett/Cam Newton Interview Analysis: 23:16–29:14
• DJ Khaled/T-Pain Relationship & Bro Industry Dissection: 49:47–60:36
• Philly/NY/Detroit Rap Debates: 60:36–67:21
• Game x Kendrick x LA Rap Scene: 69:51–76:51
• Kim K’s Brain, Conspiracies, and Health: 77:01–80:23
• Put Me On Segment: 90:31–93:57
• Favorite Parent Bonding Moments (Voicemail): 97:02–104:26

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Recurring Tone & Style

• Candid and Intimate: The hosts are unafraid to share personal stories (aging, family, therapy, friendships).
• Playfully Irreverent: Jokes land about everything from holiday chaos to Mariah Carey’s stan community and Kim Kardashian’s frontal lobe.
• Musically Opinionated: Hot takes on rappers, industry politics, and the “rules” of musical friendships.
• Nostalgic but Forward-Looking: Chronicling old New York, but tying in viral moments and new music.
• Engaged with Listeners: They field voicemails and encourage audience involvement, weaving in relatable adulting scenarios.

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Final Thoughts

Episode 428 is a classic New Rory & MAL blend of humor, nostalgia, pop culture debate, and music industry “inside baseball.” The crew deftly shifts from deeply personal stories about transition and family, to rapid-fire music takes and scene analysis, all with their easy rapport and a dose of sarcasm. Whether you’re here for the holiday hosting woes, the insights on industry beefs, or simply the jokes about Nutcrackers and Kim K, every moment feels authentic, and every debate feels like eavesdropping on friends who know hip-hop, culture, and each other inside out.

Transcript

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[Damaris]

It is the first first of the month.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Thank God for Snap benefits.

[Rory]

Listen, man, Damaris, we get the clock. Welcome. Welcome to December. I cannot believe it's the. The last month of 2025. Like that whole saying of like, when you get older, years go quicker and. Yeah, like, I'll be 36 next year. That, like, kind of me up.

[Damaris]

Are you scared?

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Why not?

[Rory]

What? I'm. Scared is the wrong word.

[Damaris]

But you're not looking forward to it.

[Rory]

I don't know. I was fine with 35. You didn't.

[Damaris]

You didn't. You didn't do a November dump and say december, be nice to me?

[Rory]

No, I did not. But I will do New Year, new me for sure. I'm definitely doing that.

[Damaris]

December, be kind to me.

[Rory]

Yeah, like you only knew the 2025. Me. You haven't met the 2026.

[Damaris]

Yeah, neither have you.

[Rory]

No, but I'm already internalizing what that person is going to be. Got you New Year, new me.

[Damaris]

Come on.

[Rory]

Okay, I don't know. Like, 35 was. Was a lot, but 36. Like now I'm on the other side. Now I'm like leaning into my latter 30s. That's. It's not a scary thing. I think the point of life is to age. And I'm happy to age, but I don't know, man.

[Damaris]

It's a. It's a weird thing, getting older.

[Rory]

Yeah, I have like, random bruises. Is that a thing with age? Like, I have just random bruises now. I'm like, where did this bruise come from?

[Baby D]

Fighting demons in your sleep, you said what?

[Damaris]

Baby D?

[Baby D]

Fighting demons in your sleep. The random bruise.

[Rory]

Like, I just woke up with a random bruise. I'm like, how the fuck did I get a bruise on my knee?

[Damaris]

You probably bumped your Knee around the.

[Rory]

House and just didn't even realize just that 35 year old adrenaline or you.

[Damaris]

Was given a ghost head. One or the other. So I don't know.

[Rory]

Oh, that's what you think I was doing? I don't mean just on one right knee.

[Damaris]

I don't have. I don't have bruises on my knees. I never get bruises on my knees.

[Rory]

First of all, giving head on one knee is hilarious. You on one knee?

[Damaris]

He was favoring one side. Like, he was leaning more towards one side. That was the angle. He was, like, getting into it.

[Rory]

There's a national anthem joke that I'm not gonna make.

[Damaris]

Oh, my God.

[Rory]

How was everyone's genocidal holiday?

[Damaris]

It was great, man. Had some time to relax.

[Rory]

Okay. Did you. Did you go out of town? No.

[Damaris]

Okay. I stayed here. I stayed in New York.

[Rory]

Gotcha.

[Damaris]

Little family in New York.

[Rory]

Nice one.

[Damaris]

Yeah. It was cool, though. Chill, chill. Holiday. We got to make it a thing, though, now that we're getting like. Like you say 36. I'm in my 40s. Like, we got to be the ones that, like, host Thanksgiving now.

[Rory]

I know.

[Damaris]

Like, it's at that point where it's like, all right, we got to. It's just. It's up to us, man. If we don't do it, it's like, it ain't. It's just probably not going to happen.

[Baby D]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Yeah. With. With Amara, I did. I did two Thanksgivings. We house hopped on. Thanks. Like, actually on Thanksgiving, went to my godfather's and then to my cousin's house, which was great. But then Friday, we did My family and Kia's family, where Kia and I cooked and, like, hosted, and I was exhausted. Like, now I unders. Like, we pulled it audible, and I had to end up doing that. I feel you, Damaris. Yeah. Last episode, I was like, yo, it's the greatest holiday. Nah, man. Fuck. Thanks.

[Baby D]

Shit is awful.

[Rory]

Outside of the obvious, you said it's awful. I was so tired after cooking all that shit, I didn't even want to eat.

[Damaris]

Is it. What did you cook?

[Rory]

Everything.

[Damaris]

Really.

[Rory]

Literally everything.

[Damaris]

That was a terrible Thanksgiving. What did you. Baby, what did you cook? I ain't. See, I wasn't on social media.

[Baby D]

I was so tired. I didn't even. I think I was waiting for you.

[Damaris]

To give us the.

[Baby D]

The only thing I posted. My homegirl posted my plate and was like, yo, another year in the books. And I, like, reposted her plate. I didn't even get a chance to take any pictures.

[Damaris]

Damn. I was looking forward to the paprika over the potato salad and the.

[Rory]

I put that on my turkey.

[Damaris]

Paprika.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Terrible Thanksgiving Ferrari. Yeah.

[Rory]

It was a mix of. Of herbs and.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Rory]

A little pap in there, too.

[Damaris]

Okay.

[Rory]

A little papoose on the turkey.

[Baby D]

How did you do your turkey? Because I'm gonna tell you if it was nasty or not.

[Rory]

How did you do your turkey in the oven? No, there's a start.

[Damaris]

There's a start. There's a start. 350. There's a start. He got that 350. Yeah.

[Rory]

Cook for a while.

[Baby D]

Okay.

[Damaris]

Chicken dry as. Ain't it no bird. That bird was in the ash.

[Rory]

No, I. I had the paintbrush with the butter like I. I did. Okay.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Put a little butter and oil.

[Baby D]

Okay. All right.

[Damaris]

Yeah, I know what you're doing a little bit.

[Rory]

I'm not saying it was, like, the greatest Thanksgiving, but it wasn't bad.

[Damaris]

How much turkey was left?

[Rory]

A good amount that I forgot to bring the soup because I made the soup yesterday, and I wanted to prove to you guys that it was peach. I got you on Wednesday. I will bring the soup in.

[Damaris]

Turkey noodle soup.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Apparently, that's the thing. People was in my. When my DMs like, Nah, that's the thing. Turkey noodles, like, word had no idea.

[Rory]

I mean, do you guys not like chicken noodle soup? It's like that, but better.

[Damaris]

It's okay.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Well, not a big fan. But aside.

[Rory]

I found out Fat Joe almost killed my cousin over Thanksgiving. That was fun.

[Damaris]

Okay, Fat Joe almost killed your cousin, but he almost hit him.

[Rory]

So my cousins were leaving the garden after St. John's had played.

[Damaris]

Okay.

[Rory]

And you know, Fat Joe is like the mayor of the Garden. He's gonna be no matter who's playing. Just Red Storm next. Whatever.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Rory]

So I guess Fat Joe was in a car that, you know, when someone's trying to lay low, like you would expect Fat Joe, because we know Fat Joe has a lot of money. He would be in the best of cars. But some celebrities just like to lay low, and I'm gonna be in something a little different. I'm not gonna say what the car was, but he pulled up when they were leaving the Garden, and my cousin, without hesitation, said, car in the shop. Joe.

[Damaris]

Oh, yeah. He should have got his ass kicked.

[Rory]

Like this and then just started laughing. But he was like, n. He thought about it like, he wasn't joking. He was gonna kill my cousin.

[Damaris]

He's probably.

[Rory]

Yeah, yeah, Chill, chill.

[Damaris]

She probably getting a ride to the car. I know how that goes sometimes.

[Rory]

N. Some people just celebrities. No, it wasn't a bad car, but it was. You know, you gotta lay low in the city. If he pulls up in a Phantom, then everyone's like, yo, what the.

[Damaris]

I mean, New York. It's. New York is. There's nice cars everywhere, though. You ain't gotta lay low in New York.

[Rory]

Yeah, but, I mean, it was. It was a chill holiday for the most part.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Yeah. My pops only said, like, a few inappropriate things.

[Damaris]

It was all right. Oh, man. He was supposed to go all the way in, man. This is the year he got to give it all. He got to give it his.

[Rory]

There was one that was crazy that I'm. I cannot say on this. Come on.

[Baby D]

No.

[Damaris]

Come on.

[Baby D]

Don't fall victim to malls. Come on. No.

[Damaris]

Come on, man. They already canceled you. Sorry, man. You can say whatever you want to say.

[Rory]

Yeah, but this. If this community cancels us, then there's no more ad money.

[Damaris]

Oh, man. We are back. Sponsored by Boost Mobile, unlimited talk, text data, and turkey noodle soup.

[Baby D]

You missed our. Our outing on. On Thursday. You didn't come to the show.

[Damaris]

What outing?

[Baby D]

The Leon Thomas Show.

[Damaris]

First of all, you said he was going home.

[Baby D]

Rory, stand up for me now.

[Rory]

That is true.

[Baby D]

Now's your chance.

[Rory]

Yeah, I got tickets, and then I kind of talked her into it.

[Baby D]

He was supposed to be taking me home. He was driving me home. The entire drive to my house from Manhattan to Brooklyn, he was like, come on, just. Just come. I was like, I want to go home. Like, I want to go home. I had ordered food. We went and picked up my food. I didn't get a chance to eat my ramen.

[Damaris]

So how was it, Leon, first of.

[Rory]

All, don't let her gas you. I dropped her home. I dropped her home, and then she came to the show.

[Baby D]

Rory called me three times before I walked in my door like, yo, I got the tickets. I got.

[Damaris]

Wait, wait, hold up.

[Rory]

Don't let her gas you.

[Damaris]

He dropped you off at the crib?

[Rory]

Yes, I drove her home. Cause I was going to Leon. I had three passes.

[Baby D]

I told him I would go with him, but by the time he pulled up to my house, and he had been begging for fucking 45 minutes, I was like, fine, fuck it. We'll go. Because the person that was in my house was like, I'm down to go. So I was like, fuck it. We'll go. So we went. We went for, like, an hour, hour and a half.

[Rory]

Listen, man, you can talk about it. I've been a third Wheel before, but God damn it. Damn, I hate new love so much. New love is dis.

[Damaris]

You was booed up at the Leon Thomas show.

[Baby D]

Where else would you be booed up at?

[Damaris]

Is fighting that Leon Thomas show. Y. Just getting it. Is running into the opps at the.

[Rory]

R and B. I. I was fighting love the whole time. I was like, get this beautiful PDA away from me. I hate you guys stared each other's eyes.

[Baby D]

We were bad like that. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

[Damaris]

You not sorry. So don't even say sorry.

[Baby D]

We a talk about how Rory. Yo, Rory. Going places with Rory. You never notice certain things until you have someone with you, because then you're just, like, more aware. Because I'm so used to the way that Rory is. Like, when Rory walks in spaces, like, he just gonna walk past the bouncer. He walked into the bar. He walked behind them people. Fucking bar. They said, sir, can you get out?

[Rory]

That was an accident, by the way.

[Baby D]

I know, but he was like, how.

[Damaris]

Was that an accident?

[Rory]

I thought it was the door to go to the back, and it was literally the back. I thought it was like, Leon's manager's like, yo, come side stage. I thought it was side stage. It was the bar.

[Damaris]

Oh, okay.

[Rory]

And then I just kept walking because, like, once you commit and make a mistake, you just got to live in your truth. Yeah. Like, you can't do the. Oh, yo, my bad. Like, you just got to live there. Henry Hill, Goodfellas. I'm doing the whole walk at this point.

[Damaris]

You gotta push a few doors. Oh, that's locked.

[Rory]

No, I pretend to be a bar back. I was like, no, I'm just getting nice because I felt so embarrassed. I just had to live in that moment.

[Damaris]

I've been seeing some clips from Leon show online. He playing the drums, guitar.

[Rory]

It was incred.

[Damaris]

This nigga's all over the stage.

[Rory]

It was. It was incredible.

[Baby D]

He was extreme. He's extremely talented. Ext. If you're not a Leon Thomas fan. Because the person I was with was not a Leon Thomas fan. He was like, this is one of the few concerts that will make me check out someone's music. Like, he's extremely talented. Okay, so shout out to Leon. He did an amazing job, but it was a. It was a cool night. Rory had us taking shots from the bootleggers that were outside of Liu, Brooklyn, Paramount.

[Damaris]

What? Yeah, I mean, he was drinking Nutcrackers.

[Baby D]

No, it wasn't the Nutcracker. They had shots.

[Damaris]

Shots?

[Baby D]

Yes.

[Damaris]

On the street?

[Baby D]

Yes.

[Damaris]

You drink shots on the street from random people.

[Rory]

It was Brooklyn.

[Damaris]

Oh yeah, he's gonna be. We're gonna find him dead.

[Baby D]

They gave that shit to me. They were like, cheers. I was like, yeet.

[Damaris]

Yeah, I'm not drinking that shit. Who was these people?

[Rory]

No, Brooklyn Knights.

[Damaris]

Brooklyn Knights.

[Baby D]

I think they said they were fans of the show though, right?

[Rory]

Yeah, they were.

[Baby D]

Okay, well, shout out to y'.

[Rory]

All. They were saying they were selling liquor outside, like nutcrackers and everything, and they were fans of the show, so they just gave us shots.

[Damaris]

Oh, okay.

[Rory]

I don't think they were trying to.

[Baby D]

No, they weren't trying to kill us.

[Rory]

They were just not just taking shots. They were actually selling jello shots. They were selling a bunch of stuff.

[Damaris]

I mean, selling jello shots on the street is just crazy. That's after Leon Thomas show. That's not right when it's cold out.

[Rory]

I agree, but that's regular summertime.

[Damaris]

Okay?

[Rory]

So if you go to Riverbank park, there's going to be nothing but jello shots being sold on that bridge.

[Damaris]

Yeah, definitely not drinking that from none of those gentlemen. But I mean, no. Hell no.

[Baby D]

Fucking hell no.

[Rory]

When you used to drink, you never had a nutcracker uptown.

[Damaris]

Oh, of course.

[Rory]

Where? It wasn't sealed.

[Damaris]

No, no, no, no, it was sealed. But I had one bad night and I never drank a nutcracker again.

[Rory]

Nutcrackers.

[Baby D]

What was one bad. What was the night?

[Damaris]

Oh my God.

[Baby D]

What happened?

[Damaris]

I woke up, I drove home. Don't remember driving home. Didn't remember parking. Woke up my young boy in the block. Called me like 12 times. He thought I was coming back downstairs. I left the car running, went upstairs, went to sleep. He had to park it in the lot. Yeah, it was bad. It was bad. Yeah. Never again. Never again. I had two. It was just. I had like maybe three nutcrackers. It was crazy.

[Baby D]

Yeah, three nutcrackers is.

[Rory]

Yeah, three is crazy.

[Baby D]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

No, I went crazy.

[Rory]

That would put.

[Damaris]

But we was outside from like 9pm to like 2, 3 in the morning.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

So that's easy. It's easy to go through three nutcrackers in five hours. That's. That's easy.

[Rory]

And if you're not from New York too, probably didn't. You didn't feel. Took a sip of the third one and then everything at you.

[Damaris]

That was it.

[Baby D]

Explain to the non New Yorkers who listen to us what a nutcracker is so they'll know.

[Damaris]

Nutcrackers death juice.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Do not jump away from it. It's Everything that is in your cabinet that is almost running on empty, and you just pour it all in one bottle and add fruit pumps.

[Rory]

I was about to say, add some fruit juice and you got it. And you haven't tasted the 151.

[Damaris]

You don't want that, man. Leave that alone. Do not drink that.

[Rory]

But, yeah, Demer left us halfway through the show. I went to the after party by myself. Like.

[Baby D]

You went to the after party?

[Damaris]

Yo, he was outside.

[Rory]

Not. Not the actual after party. That was in the city. They had a afterparty in the venue upstairs, which was fun and, you know, kicked it with people I knew, but.

[Damaris]

What do you perform at?

[Rory]

Brooklyn Paramount. Right.

[Damaris]

Okay. How's that? How's that venue? I know.

[Rory]

Yeah, it's really, really good. It actually kind of reminds me, like, of an downtown LA type venue in New York.

[Damaris]

So, baby, you did go to the party? I mean, to the show.

[Baby D]

Even though I did, but I had to get up in the morning to go to Syracuse that morning.

[Damaris]

And then you went home and cooked?

[Baby D]

No, I went home and went to sleep. I went directly to sleep. I was so fucking tired. I was tired at the show, nodding off. And he was like, we should go home. I'm like, we should. Cause I'm about to fall asleep.

[Rory]

In the event that you start dating somebody in the summer, don't spend Thanksgiving together. I feel like you're kind of required if you stay together for the next Thanksgiving, to spend together. That's a year change.

[Damaris]

So if you meet. If you meet Christmas around Christmas, and so next year, Thanksgiving? Y. Yeah, I think so. Yeah. I mean, yeah. It's almost a year that y' all been. You're not going to meet the family in a year.

[Rory]

I think she's required to spend Christmas with who?

[Baby D]

Yeah, with you. You mean yours?

[Rory]

What you got going on? I don't have anything going on.

[Baby D]

Oh, okay. I'm like. I don't know where you was going with that.

[Rory]

I've seen you flustered before.

[Baby D]

I'm not flustered. I'm just not talking about it.

[Damaris]

Okay.

[Baby D]

Like, I'm not flustered about a goddamn thing. But no, I think it's different. What I've realized with seeing other people because I have a single mom and then seeing other people with single moms, shit gets a little bit different. Because you don't want to leave, especially men don't want to leave their mothers on holidays and things like that. That's happened a lot with people that I've dated. Like, so you kind of have to decide Nobody introduced.

[Damaris]

Nobody introduced their significant other to their family quicker than lesbians.

[Baby D]

Oh, no. For sure.

[Damaris]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Baby D]

I love you.

[Rory]

I feel like the mother comes on the first date.

[Damaris]

Yeah. Lesbians. Lesbians. You meet, you meet, you meet her girlfriend. Like she just met her three days ago and she's already at the table.

[Rory]

Yeah, they don't give a no. Their first date comes with a.

[Damaris]

Lesbians. Go. They move quick, boy.

[Rory]

Like, damn.

[Damaris]

Like, all right, cool.

[Rory]

I respect it though. A lot of the lesbians I know are in very long term relationships like that. Their strategy works. Of all right. I like this first date. Now we're together for life, baby.

[Damaris]

How come we never see studs complain about cramps? I saw a meme.

[Baby D]

Why you always got questions about studs?

[Damaris]

No, I'm just. I'm just asking because you.

[Rory]

Every time he asks a question, it's profound. Because I've never heard a stud.

[Damaris]

Yeah. So me and I was like, that is like, I've never seen the homie Stud like complained like, damn, my stomach hurting. Blood. Yo, what's wrong? I got cramps. Never seen it because why would.

[Rory]

Never heard young rap about it. Nothing.

[Damaris]

Yeah, like we don't see studs like at work. Like, oh shit, mom's cramping. Like, we've just never seen it in school. Never seen it. Like, is it like a thing where they just can that pain tolerance?

[Baby D]

I don't know. I'm not. No, they don't have higher pain tolerance, but I'm not a stud, so I don't know.

[Rory]

Sometimes you put a beanie on it just, you know, or a fitted.

[Damaris]

So it's not the pain tolerance, baby.

[Baby D]

D. No.

[Damaris]

All right, all right. It baby.

[Rory]

So is this amongst the same theory of like, I've never met a hoe that was on her period. Like, she was always ready. Is that in the same category?

[Baby D]

That's different though.

[Rory]

That's actually how come home that don't have periods.

[Baby D]

Well, that's because the majority of them are on some type of period altering birth control.

[Rory]

Okay. Yeah.

[Damaris]

They put that sponge up.

[Rory]

Yeah. Like 40 days, 40 nights type. Yo, I found out about the sponge here, by the way. I didn't. It took me 35 years to find out there's a sponge you could put up there and keep.

[Baby D]

Yeah, there's also like little rings you can cut there.

[Damaris]

The little cup?

[Baby D]

No, not. They have the diva cups, but you can't really have sex with those. The. It's like a disc. The little flex disc you can put up there.

[Rory]

Yeah, I found out the flex. Porn stars be on a period. I'm like, they couldn't just push production a week.

[Damaris]

We got to get this out tonight. We got to get this.

[Rory]

I. I felt so ignorant. I had no idea these things existed at all. But I did see on your IG story, Damaris, that you was out in the Q streets.

[Baby D]

Oh, yeah.

[Rory]

Syracuse looks kind of fun.

[Baby D]

Blackout Wednesdays. What is this Blackout Wednesdays? If you're from a college. Actually, it's from anywhere. But if you're from a college town, you know, because everyone comes home, like, for Thanksgiving. Like, we all. When you live in a small town, everybody goes out and lives and lives their life. Right. But when they come back and it's such a big occasion, you see people you haven't seen in years or whatever that have returned home for Thanksgiving. So, yeah, Blackout Wednesdays.

[Rory]

Yeah. So.

[Damaris]

So it's like, what do y' all do?

[Rory]

You go out?

[Baby D]

It's. It's. It's the night before. Thanksgiving is the biggest party in night of the year.

[Damaris]

Okay.

[Baby D]

I don't think it's a big thing in New York City, but in every other place, it's.

[Damaris]

It used to be.

[Rory]

Yeah, no, when you're younger, that's definitely a thing. The Wednesday before Thanksgiving, three nutcrackers, minimum. Just go crazy.

[Baby D]

Yeah, we went out. My boy. My boy Fets had a party, and he gave me a section and a bottle, and me and Al. It was just me and my homegirl, Allison. Shout out to Allison. And we went to town.

[Damaris]

Shout out to Allison.

[Rory]

I clicked her IG and it was.

[Baby D]

You click her IG every time you give her a compliment. Every time I post her, it's the same girl. Literally the same girl.

[Damaris]

Consistent. That's a consistent man right there.

[Rory]

I thought I was being gallant.

[Baby D]

So me and my two best friends went out. Then we got into an argument out of Popeye.

[Rory]

Being polite.

[Damaris]

I thought I was being gallant.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Oh, my God. Rory got new teeth to Maris.

[Rory]

Yo, you know what's so up?

[Damaris]

How you feel about it?

[Rory]

Well, first of all, I. I love them. And shout out to Glendale Dentistry.

[Damaris]

Shout out to Glendale Dentistry in Queens.

[Rory]

My, my, my. Over there was amazing.

[Damaris]

What's his name?

[Rory]

Dr. R. Dr. R. Just R. Yeah, he's that. He's that ill. Like, just. Even Dr. Oz needs two letters. He does. He just needs one.

[Damaris]

Okay. Shout out to Jesus.

[Rory]

Share. You know, the whole thing. Yeah, but I was kind of like. So I got them. The Wednesday before I got it on Blackout Wednesday is when I got what they have off. That wasn't that funny. I just wanted to smile.

[Damaris]

He got his T4 clearance.

[Rory]

Listen, man. Early Black Friday and a printer.

[Damaris]

All right, Shout out to doctor.

[Rory]

I got them at Best Buy, But no, they came out great. And the process was great, but on Thanksgiving, I was kind of tight getting.

[Damaris]

And you're a maniac. Cause you got them before, like, the day you supposed to eat.

[Rory]

Like, yeah, it was fine. When I got the temps with the dentures, that was tough. Like, I could barely eat for, like, two days. But these are. These are fine. Like, after the Novocaine wore off, I was good to go.

[Damaris]

Okay.

[Rory]

But I went to my godfather's house. That was the first stop on Thanksgiving. 65 people at his house. My godmother is an Italian woman from New Jersey that is one of 12. So, yeah, it's a lot going on there, but I love it because there's a bunch of kids and Mark and have a lot of fun. But the whole time I'm talking, I'm like, nobody is going to be like, yo, yo, your teeth look good.

[Damaris]

No, no, bro. Regular day.

[Rory]

Laura, my God sister was the only ones like, yo, you got new teeth. Talk to 65 people. Nobody fucking noticed.

[Damaris]

Nobody cares. Nobody cares.

[Rory]

But not. They're good, man. I'm happy.

[Damaris]

That's good. They look good.

[Rory]

Yeah, they. They definitely, like, look. Not like I didn't get the xl. Super white teeth. Yeah, yeah, they look.

[Damaris]

They don't look like. They don't look like taller seats in your mouth.

[Baby D]

Yo, you good.

[Damaris]

You don't have a mouthful. Yeah. You don't have a mouthful of coffee mugs. It's all good. All right, so I've been away from social media the whole holiday break, so y' all gotta fill me in. What the hell is going on in the industry?

[Rory]

The industry?

[Damaris]

Who hates who? Who hates who? Who's dropping who? Who's dissing who? Let's hear it.

[Rory]

All right, I'm with you. I was. I was off the Internet for the most part of the entire holiday, but I did have to stop what I was doing on Friday while I was cooking. I put a AirPod in my ear while I was making the terrible turkey, mashed potatoes, Mac and cheese, everything. Because Juicy and Cam Newton did an interview together. Juicy Smollet.

[Damaris]

Okay.

[Rory]

Sat down with Cam Newton. If we don't live in a simulation, I don't know what the.

[Damaris]

Is going on. I've been trying to tell you.

[Rory]

I don't know if I. Okay. Because I don't. I don't Respect it. I don't appreciate it. I don't admire it. But I am fascinated by Jussie still doubling down on this entire thing. Well, he's still.

[Damaris]

He has to at this point. He has to.

[Rory]

Yeah, but, like, the confidence in which he has in the lie that we're all crazy. His, like. All right, the way they studied Aaron Hernandez's brain after he unfortunately killed himself of the causes of CTE and what that does. I need to know the, like, the level of narcissism that has entered Jussie's brain and how somebody gets there. Do. He might be, like, higher than Trump, Putin, anyone, When it comes to the level of narcissism, like, it is absolutely fucking insane. I used to laugh at it. Now it's getting to a point where he may harm somebody.

[Damaris]

Do we think that he can even admit that he was lying at this point? Like, do all of these interviews go away if he says y' all was lying? Or do people still want him on their platform because people are going to click and watch it?

[Rory]

Well, he said. He said that he. He wishes he made it up so he could do that very thing and we could all just move on. But, you know, he didn't. Even though there's, like, stuff on.

[Damaris]

Never mind.

[Rory]

Yo, it's the.

[Damaris]

Yeah, I don't. I don't know.

[Rory]

You don't have to watch any of this. It's two hours. I've never seen two people, you know, I. With Cam Newton, I think his platform is great. I've never seen two people talk for two fucking hours and not say one thing of substance at all. They said nothing for two hours at all. The only thing Cam was like, said that made me laugh was, yo, I forgot you was on Mighty Ducks. Yo, for two hours.

[Damaris]

I forgot he was on Mighty Ducks.

[Rory]

Like, I don't know if him and Cam are friends. I don't know. Of course, I. I understand that his publicist would want him to go to the most softball, but I don't think Cam Newton does, like, complete. He's not Charlemagne, but he's also not the most softball interviewer ever. This was, like, kind of disgusting to watch. Like, you didn't even ask a single question.

[Baby D]

Well, I feel like everything's been at, like, what are the hard hitting questions you're gonna ask?

[Damaris]

What more can we ask?

[Rory]

Okay, that's what I'm saying. Like, but no, here's my thing. I agree with you. If they didn't just put out that documentary that was produced by Jussie, I Believe on Netflix the amount of cell phone records that they follow. Those two guys, they did a Fox News special like, yeah, Jussie, you have not answered to anything that was in that doc. Like, there's a thousand questions you could ask now.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Rory]

After he did the Gail, like, cool, whatever. We could just laugh at it, but a bunch of stuff came out again. And you're just not gonna ask him.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Rory]

While he's doubling down of being the victim. Even though he says he doesn't want to be a victim, but he is the victim. And we all, you know, projected our insecurities on gay men because of this. We didn't look at the facts. We just saw him as a gay man and was like, yo, fuck you.

[Damaris]

No, I think we did look at the facts, and we knew it was bullshit. When that meatball.

[Rory]

And we didn't even think about your sexuality.

[Damaris]

Yeah, we didn't care about your sexuality. Jesse, the meatball sub made it home after you had a noose and bleach poured all over you. It just didn't make sense to nobody. Like, I think that was it. But, I mean, you know, if Jesse's still on his champagne campaign and, you know, if people want to sit down and talk to him, I guess I don't. I don't know what we can get out of it. Unless he decides to get to the point where he's like, you know what? I was lying. Like, all of this was.

[Rory]

His brain should be studied.

[Baby D]

Well, Rory said he's really sending music. Is this true?

[Rory]

Oh, well, I was gonna get to that. Even though I think he's probably one of the most narcissistic human beings that's ever existed on Earth. And listen, he made a mistake. He had a drug problem, mental health issues. I can give some grace there for you. Setting up some like that to take advantage of a very sensitive time. Even though that's insane, I could still give you some grace. She was going through some shit, but to triple down on it in the most arrogant, narcissistic way ever. I think he should be in jail. But with that said, his new single Breakout is incredible. Song is great.

[Baby D]

He got it because, you know, just. He's talented.

[Rory]

Didn't he say, it's fire Make a.

[Baby D]

Man love a man?

[Damaris]

Is that how it starts?

[Baby D]

You never heard.

[Rory]

That's an old song.

[Baby D]

That's.

[Rory]

That's a pre pandemic song.

[Damaris]

Was that when he said he was.

[Rory]

A gay Tupac after that?

[Baby D]

Oh, no, this.

[Rory]

That was his. I ain't mad at you.

[Baby D]

This Was Empire. When he was on Empire.

[Damaris]

That was his.

[Rory]

This was when Alicia Keys was his beard.

[Damaris]

Oh, man. Yeah. I'm not listening to no Jesse Records. I'm sorry.

[Rory]

I don't know, man. Break Breakout, which. Which he explained, like, the title, because I think the album's called Breakout as well with the single. But, like, he's just trying to break out of all the, you know, barriers and boundaries that we put him in since he was, you know, jumped by the two MAGA gentleman in Chicago.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Rory]

In zero degree weather at 2:00am all.

[Damaris]

Right, well, shout out to Cam Newton, man, for another amazing.

[Rory]

That was carrying a nuts and bleach.

[Damaris]

Yeah. And the meatball sub made it home. I got you. I did see this.

[Rory]

And he tried to say he was. He was copping coke too. He was like, see, I wouldn't lie about. I was. I was getting drugs too, but why would I lie about that then? Like, you really think we're all stupid?

[Damaris]

He does.

[Rory]

I keep saying narcissist, but that's why I can't watch this. Like, you really think we're all stupid and you're looking at us like we're dumb.

[Damaris]

I can't watch no Jussie interview. I'm done. I'll move past that. They killed me when I said he was lying years ago. And then it came out that he was lying and nobody told me. Sorry. So fuck y'. All.

[Baby D]

Well, sorry, I'm not.

[Rory]

That's narcissistic. Make it about you.

[Damaris]

Yeah, yeah. Fuck it. It is what it is. I did see the Max B performance. Max B popped out at Stove Guard show in Manhattan. And I did see all the debacle online about, you know, him doing the Record. Performing the Record where he disses Jim.

[Rory]

I was gonna call you to go to that, by the way.

[Damaris]

I'm so glad you didn't. Why you think I would go to a stovegod Max B show?

[Rory]

What was the Stove God show? I think he would go to a Stove got show.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Baby D]

You just not gonna go because Max B. Popped out.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Baby D]

Is there smoke with Max B?

[Damaris]

Nah, I love Max. There's too many niggas in the building.

[Baby D]

Okay.

[Damaris]

I don't wanna be where there's too many men in the building.

[Baby D]

Well, a stove got show. There's gonna be a lot of men in the building.

[Damaris]

Yeah. That's why he should have had, like. If he would've had, like, a female guest pop out, like, stove and Max. I'm cool. I'm maxed out. Too many gentlemen. Too Many gentlemen. But I love both of those guys. I love Max. I told you.

[Rory]

You would've preferred, like, Stove and Janae.

[Damaris]

There you go. You know what I'm saying? Give me the Stove bars and then let Janae kinda heal everybody and calm everybody.

[Rory]

I would actually love to hear Stove over Janae.

[Damaris]

Like, yeah, yeah, but Stove and Max. But I do. I mean, it made sense because, like, we spoke about a few weeks ago when we knew Max was coming home. This was the perfect time. Because guys like Stove God, being as hot as he is right now is a direct influence of Max B. And, you know, oh, yeah, Stove has.

[Rory]

A lot of Max pop, the melody.

[Damaris]

Rap that Max made, you know, popular with his style. So I think it made sense for them to be on the same show together. But I just. It's just too much. There's too many gentlemen right now. It's just everybody gotta just relax. We need more ladies around. Let the ladies have fun.

[Rory]

Like, well, I know women that are Stove God fans. Let's not do that. I know a lot of women that are Max B fans for sure, but Max B. I thought about going, if I didn't cook all day, I probably would have went to the show on Friday, but I wouldn't have went backstage. I hear you there. Like, that would have been a little too aggressive for me. I would have stayed in the balcony area and just enjoyed the show.

[Damaris]

But I did see Max B addressing the situation because he performed a record where he throws shots at Jim. And people had something to say about it. They was like, oh, you know, he's back on that type of time with that energy, throwing shots at Jim. And then Max be addressed it, saying he didn't know that Flex was going to play that record, saying that he only. He didn't even really know the lyrics. He don't even remember the lyrics. This, that, and the third. And I was like, okay, I can kind of understand what Max is saying. He caught off guard. He only agreed to do one or two songs, and then Flex played that record. So I was kind of understanding what Max was saying, like, damn, that's on Flex. But then I saw the footage, and I saw Max 2 step into the record as he was performing it. And I'm just like, all right, that doesn't say you didn't want to perform that record.

[Baby D]

And the record they're referencing would be Touched it in Miami.

[Rory]

Correct? Yes. Which was a very, very, very, very big Max B record that does addressed an alleged situation with Jim Jones wife. And we don't need to get into that. But I hear you. Cause I saw the apology before. I saw the footage, too. And I was like, all right.

[Damaris]

Yeah, you can't two step into the song.

[Rory]

But you're a performer.

[Damaris]

You're right. But it's also part of the performer's job. Cause we've seen guys perform before and their DJ play a record and they be like, nah, we not doing that.

[Baby D]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

And they cut it off. We've seen that. I've seen that plenty of times with rappers, with singers. They're like, nah, I'm not doing that tonight. Whatever. Whatever. Going to another record.

[Rory]

I've watched Nas play Ether and go, love Jay Z. Yeah. I mean, you know, I was so mad at Nas. Love Jay Z. Nah, man. Just don't even do either.

[Damaris]

I don't care if y' all love Jay Z.

[Rory]

Is don't love Jay Z.

[Damaris]

You can't perform that record. But what does this mean for Max and Jim's relationship? We obviously, Jim is very firm on him never fucking with Max again and him never being cool with Max again. Do we think that this further ignites tension? Does this.

[Rory]

You know, listen, man, I'm not on the side that everyone has to be Kumbaya. I think people can dislike each other and just operate and exist in the same space.

[Damaris]

For sure.

[Rory]

Like, it's not beef. I just don't fuck with you. We're not. We're not gonna piece it up, but it's not. I'm not wasting my energy and my freedom for this.

[Baby D]

Yeah.

[Rory]

I don't think it's gonna go anywhere. I'm glad that Max did apologize after, though.

[Damaris]

Me, too. I am. I like the fact that he addressed that. He apologized and he said he wasn't on that. But then, like I said, once you see the footage, it's like, all right, it looked like he was on that. It looked like he was enjoying your time up there. And it's. You know, to be fair, Max is probably still, you know, just happy to be home, happy to be back on stage, happy to have people, you know, still, you know, showing him love and wanting to take pictures with him and things like that. So he may have been caught up in the moment. And, you know, I'm not gonna say that he. His intent was to disrespect Jim on stage that night. You know, things happen. But I do think that, you know, he. Max has to understand, like, you know, you gotta be very careful because, again, you wanna come home, you don't wanna have this negative energy with all this love that you're receiving, you wanna kinda embrace that love and move with love. Uh, but then, you know, moments like this unfortunately happen. And then now we're talking about, you know, what does this mean between them? Is it, you know, how does Jim feel? Is he, you know, is he more upset than he already was? And, you know, it's just. It just. It breeds unnecessary energy, Unnecessary bullshit.

[Rory]

Um, I mean, I don't know if you're Jim. Cause Jim is a great businessman. And I think he understands, too, that Max is. Even if he has disdain for Max, this is also a business opportunity to. To milk as much as you can with your, you know, welcome home party for the next month. I'd probably be looking at Flex crazier than I would be looking at Max. Max is. If. If Max is. Is my enemy, he's gonna do whatever the he's gonna do. I'm not expecting much from my enemy as far as Grace or anything. I'm not saying Jim Jones and Flex are best friends, but I'd be looking at Flex a little crazier than I would be looking at Max. Like, yeah, that's where I think Jim's energy may be, because he knows how wild Max is. No matter. Even though he's much older and things have changed, he's still Max B. At the end of the day. I don't think Jimmy expected a Kumbaya release with all the welcome home. Yeah, but Flex, like, that's the record you play.

[Damaris]

Yeah, we got it. We got it. We got to give Flex some, some, some, some backlash for that. Because it's like, come on, Flex, you know what this can ignite? You know what?

[Rory]

This.

[Damaris]

Cause Flex we too old to be playing those games.

[Baby D]

Can I throw Flex? Can I just throw him a little, like, a little bail?

[Rory]

I was about to as well. Like, we don't know what happened. Max could have told Flex he don't play the record.

[Baby D]

That's number one.

[Damaris]

Did Flex come out in the dresser yet?

[Baby D]

No, not yet.

[Damaris]

Cause I feel like if that was the case.

[Baby D]

Let's look that up, Josh.

[Damaris]

I feel like Flex would have came out and been like, yo, first of all, Max told me to play that record. Like, I feel like Flex would do that if he was told to play that record. I feel like Flex would keep it 100 and say, yo, they told me to play that record.

[Baby D]

So I know Flex is a dj, and I know that he knows the history behind that diss song, right? But even when, like, she Touched it in Miami comes on for me, I don't immediately register it as a diss. I register as one of Max's biggest songs. So, like, a song can be a diss?

[Damaris]

Well, it's called Grand Crew Grand.

[Baby D]

Okay. Sorry. I always call it.

[Rory]

Everyone calls it. Yeah.

[Baby D]

I'm like, that's what it was saying. Dot MP400, my little iPod touch.

[Rory]

But I'm sure in Flex's Serato, it's saved as that, too.

[Baby D]

Yeah. So you know the history, but there's a chance that you just threw it on because it's one of his biggest songs and you didn't even think, oh, this is enough. Goes back to the diss. And in the heat of the moment, you just throw on the biggest Max.

[Rory]

Yeah, but if you've been watching Flex for the last 30 years, Flex is very calculated. Flex is a moment seeker. I don't mean that in a bad way as far as moment seeker, because Flex has incredible moments, and seeking moments isn't necessarily a bad thing. But we know Flex. Flex is far from dumb. Like, he knows what he's doing.

[Damaris]

Flex knew what he was doing.

[Rory]

Flex knew exactly what he was doing. I don't think he was just like, oh, what about this one? Like, he knew.

[Baby D]

What about this one?

[Damaris]

He knew what he was doing. He knew the reaction was going to get.

[Rory]

Flex ain't stupid.

[Damaris]

Like, he knew. He. But now, I didn't see the full footage of Max on stage, but he probably was thinking that Max was gonna lean all the way into the record and really full out perform the record. And, you know, I'm guessing that's the energy that Flex probably wanted on that stage for whatever reason. So, you know, it's a big moment. You know, hip hop is competitive. It's just, you know, it's supposed to be that whatever, whatever. But with this situation here is totally different because, again, Max is just coming home. He don't need that type of negative energy. You know, with him, you gotta move carefully with this type of shit because this is a serious situation. So, yeah, I do think that, like Rory said, Flex knows. He knows what he was doing. Flex is not a. He's been spinning records for a few years. Damaris. He's been doing this. He's been doing this for a little while. He knows Existence, up and coming dj. Yeah, he knows. Flex knows exactly what he's doing.

[Baby D]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

And I just think that that was just a bad call. I think that was a bad move. But again, shout out to Max for addressing it and trying to clear it up and, you know, making sure that People understand that that wasn't his intent. He's not trying to, you know, lean into that beef and lean into that energy. Like, he's, you know, focused on a whole different thing now. But it's just unfortunate that it happened, because now, you know, that's the only thing everybody's talking about from that night. I didn't even hear about how Stove's performance went.

[Rory]

Right.

[Damaris]

All I'm hearing about is this.

[Baby D]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

You know what I mean? So that's the things that happen when you have these type situations. It takes so much energy and light away from the rest of the evening.

[Baby D]

Yeah.

[Rory]

And, I mean, I did see a lot of Stove talk over the weekend as well, because he had put out a single on Friday, the day that the show was. I mean, I guess it was more like the core Stove God fans that didn't like it. But we've talked about Stove God in regards that out of Griselda, with the talent that he has, with the melodic. And I know he's not Griselda per se, but we said that that area of music, he could be a superstar. He's not allowed to grow with sound like it's got. It has to. He gave for the last three years on every Westside Gun album. He's given you the grimiest shit that you could ever want. There's 45 grimy stove God records. Yeah. He can't have fun for a fucking second.

[Damaris]

Well, I think that, you know, and.

[Rory]

You can't get out of a deal real quick.

[Damaris]

You're right. You're absolutely right.

[Rory]

He can't try to get out of his deal, too.

[Damaris]

You're absolutely right.

[Rory]

Yeah. Yeah. I'm gonna give these records to this deal.

[Damaris]

Yeah. But a lot of.

[Rory]

I'm not bad at the record. I actually like the record.

[Damaris]

No, I like the record. I think that, you know, I think people want to hear, you know, Stove on that boom bap sound forever, because that's where we kind of, you know, we come to love that sound from him. But, I mean, he's still on there. He's still Stove on there. The music is just a little different. But he's still talking. He's still talking that shit. So it's like, I don't understand what people are upset about. I thought the record was cool, you know what I'm saying? As long as he still is rapping and he's still talking slick, I'm cool. I don't care about the. I like when you try different things with the music. You try to change the sound a little bit, I guess people are kind of like, damn, he trying to go all the way, you know, mainstream. He trying to move his sound all the way mainstream already. I just think that, you know, he's grown as an artist. He obviously had a, you know, big year with the clips with that record. And I think that, you know, he has more eyes and ears on him now, so he just, you know, now he wants to show a little versatility. And as an artist, I think that, well, as consumers, I think that we should allow artists to do that. We have to allow artists to grow and change and try different things. You know, if we want to listen to the old Boo B, we can still go listen to it, but this is something new, and this is what ST want to do. But again, as long as he's still rapping at a certain level, I'm. I'm. I'm cool.

[Rory]

His. His tone is too great. His melodies are too great to just stay in the same lane forever.

[Damaris]

Same bpm.

[Rory]

Yeah, I'm. As much as I love that, I don't. I think he's too talented to stay there.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Like, even when there. When there's, like, rapity rap rappers that I love to death, some of them, I do want to just stay in that lane. Like, that's where you shine to me. Stove is way more special in his versatility, and I think actually some of that holds him back of the type of music that we could get. Like, if you give me the fentanyl version of 808s and heartbreaks, I would be fine. That's how talented I think Stove is and how the tone of his voice is so much different than everyone else's. The way he finds pockets of melodies. Yeah, man. Stove, experiment with everything we know for a fact. If we get upset, we know you and Alchemist could do five. A five record EP on some grimy, and we'd be back.

[Baby D]

Yeah.

[Rory]

So go experiment.

[Damaris]

I like how you felt about it.

[Baby D]

Baby D. I haven't heard it yet.

[Damaris]

Oh, you ain't listening yet.

[Rory]

It wasn't record. It wasn't a blackout Wednesday. Oh, no, it wasn't out during blackout Wednesdays. I was gonna say the Q Streets.

[Damaris]

I figured, like, they would have been going crazy usually.

[Rory]

Did you feel the way that he was in New York on Friday and not. Not in cues.

[Baby D]

I mean, he was working. You know, we all got to work sometimes.

[Damaris]

That's a fact.

[Rory]

Yeah. The moment they make it, they leave is crazy.

[Damaris]

The moment they meet.

[Baby D]

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[Damaris]

So While I'm still looking at your ass, why you ain't.

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[Damaris]

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[Damaris]

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[Rory]

Well, shit, I mean, I guess on the Max B Flex Jim Jones conversation, I think that kind of ties into the T Pain rant on Club Shay. Let me not call it a rant. I. I hate that word. He. He was talking about Khed during his Club Shay and saying more or less. I'm paraphrasing. C was my best friend when he needed me for the first three albums. And then. Yeah, then after that when I got a little colder, I don't hear from KE I. Okay. You know, I. Teddy Bender ass is one of my favorite of all time. I'm not here to even defend this. It's the music industry. Why would you expect SC to be your friend?

[Damaris]

I get. I get what you're saying.

[Rory]

Maybe it's because I'm so jaded at this point and we've had a similar conversation. I don't have the expectations of people anymore. Well, I will. I look at it kind of funny if we was sitting in the studio for, for 10 years straight and we brothers this and that and having fun and then all of a sudden you don't call. Yeah, I think that's corny and weird.

[Damaris]

So that's what he's saying.

[Rory]

But I don't like that's what he's saying. I don't expect it.

[Damaris]

But that's what he's saying though. Like if we did all of that, we have all of this history together. We probably had some heart to heart conversations, spent a lot of time, you know, families probably know each other to an extent. And then all of a sudden like I can't get a.

[Rory]

All we did was win.

[Damaris]

Yeah, I can't get a return phone call. I can't. If I reached out for something, maybe, you know, I wanted you on a record and I couldn't get that from, you know, I could understand T Pain's stance of, you know, fuck DJ Khaled. But the thing I don't understand is, and I've said it and people kill me for saying It. But DJ Khaled is obviously very self serving.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

And I don't understand how people don't understand or see that by now. Like he's very self serving.

[Rory]

Sure.

[Damaris]

Which is fine, you know what I'm saying?

[Rory]

That's why he's been the businessman that he's been in the music business.

[Damaris]

Right. So I mean, but again, T Pain probably felt like they were a little close or a little better than that. And you know, I mean it is what it is. If that's what his stance is. If his stance is he's not fucking with Khaled. And I'm sure he has. Cause T Pain is not somebody that I can remember ever having a real issue with anybody other than Autotune.

[Rory]

And I don't want to talk about Khaled's character per se, because I don't really know Khaled as a human being. But when I was at Def Jam, he was an executive. While I was at Def Jam, he was an executive there and an executive at Sony, which was unheard of. He's also a DJ executive. And DJs are only working with what's hot at the moment. There is no tie to anything. Khaled actually doesn't. I don't think gets the credit. He deserves to be the executive that he is. But he has the mind of a DJ and executive. He's only going to fuck with what's hot and pitch it as if their brother. You don't think Liora Cohen self serving.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Rory]

You don't think Lucian Grange is self serving?

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Rory]

You don't think Kevin Lyles.

[Damaris]

That's why I said is.

[Rory]

Is self. Not self serving like as humans in their personal lives, like I'm sure with their families. They're amazing people.

[Damaris]

Yeah. But business you talk about.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Baby D]

You have to be to be successful.

[Rory]

Listen, those come along. Those companies are net 30, net 60, net 90. Not just with paying people, but also with the relationship with that person. Andre 3000. You're only as funky as your last cut. I don't owe you shit. But you can't say because, you know, because music. Because music is so emotional and you're pouring your life into it. Some. Some people, rightfully so, view it as that. It's not. It's a transaction.

[Damaris]

No, but.

[Rory]

Which is fucked up. I don't abide by that. I'm not one of those people.

[Damaris]

It's not for some people. It's not. Because you have a lot of artists.

[Rory]

I'm not one of those people.

[Damaris]

No, I know that But I'm just saying, you have a lot of. You have a lot of artists and a lot of producers that work together, that are very close, that are like family. And I feel like, you know, maybe Khaled. Well, maybe T Pain felt like that was him and Khaled. Like, we can go back and look at the history T Pain was on every big Khaled record when it was we the best and all of that. Like, it was T Pain everywhere. I mean, it was Ace Hood everywhere. And now both of these gentlemen have, you know, certain feelings towards DJ Khaled, but, I mean, it's looking like they're both in the same boat and they're right. Like, Khaled used them when they was hot. You know, it was making a lot of records, making big songs together. Then once Bieber sent his vocals back, it was like, fuck Ace Hood. Fuck T Pain. Once you get in Future vocals and Beyonce vocals and Rihanna vocals, it's like, I don't need T Pain no more. When I got Future, I don't need, you know, Ace Hood. When I got HOV sending, you know, versus back and I got Nas in the studio and I got, you know. So, I mean, T Pain probably feel like, all right, well, I asked for a record, which is probably what he did, and Khaled didn't get back to him, didn't respond. And so now he's like, okay, it's like that. All right, well, then this is how I feel. Fuck you. And T Pain is not wrong for that. Because again, this is the music industry, and we know it's business, but through business and through, you know, spending so much time working with certain people, you build a relationship, you build a. A chemistry, you build a friendship, you build even family at some point. We've seen a lot of people in the industry become family through working with each other. And, you know, sometimes it goes that way. Sometimes it's. You find out this person was just using you. And I think that's where T Pain is at.

[Rory]

Yeah, where do you. I mean, where do you fall on the side of. If you're not being used, you're useless.

[Damaris]

I mean, yes.

[Rory]

Not about T Pain, by the way.

[Damaris]

No, no, no, I get what you're.

[Rory]

Saying, because my problem with this whole thing is Khaled is creative enough and T Pain is a goat. You could. Khaled and T Pain can make a hit record right now.

[Damaris]

100 but. 100, but, you know, it's. I mean, listen, man, I'm not the biggest cow. Like, I don't like many of the Khaled projects albums, I don't go back to a lot of those.

[Rory]

The early ones, I definitely like.

[Damaris]

Well, the early one, yeah, that's who.

[Rory]

Was on the early ones, I think. What's the one with his son on the COVID That is his son eps. I love that one. Yeah. I don't want to mispronounce his son's name, but, yeah, I love that. That was probably my last favorite gallon.

[Damaris]

Yeah. But I just don't, you know, I get it, man. And it's. It's a tough pill to swallow when you realize that people's only using you because you was hot at the moment. But it's a real thing.

[Rory]

And I mean, I hate to go back to the first point of executive and dj. Like, he's a dj. Even if you go to Flex, like, yeah, there's probably artists that had two great records in 98 that Flex played all the time. Just. Does Flex owe them the 2025 record they want to put out? Like, he's a DJ, he just moves on to the next thing.

[Baby D]

But that's completely. That's completely different, I'm sure.

[Rory]

And I hate to just put Flex in this. Even though I'm critical of Flex, I don't want to put something on his character. I'm sure Flex is called Mike Geronimo brother before. And I love Mike Drop. Like, I'm just using an example of somebody that had a great record in the 90s. I'm sure Mike has went to Flex after, like, yo, I got this other record and Flex was moving on to DMX at that time. Like. Like, I'm just playing other shit.

[Damaris]

So you could do that. Then I could say, do you think that if Pat Poos ever went to Rest in Peace K Slay with a record, Slay wouldn't have played it. No, wouldn't have happened. Fair Wouldn't have happened.

[Rory]

I'm trying to think like, with Clue. Nah. Because even Clue with. When I mean, Rand is probably one of the best rappers of 20, 25, 24, 23. But I'm sure when Rand was trying to find a record, yeah, Clue. Clue played a lot of ran on the radio now I think about it.

[Damaris]

So we. We know DJs play.

[Rory]

He had invested and I don't know Clue in Rand's actual personal relationship. I'm only outside looking in about the entire thing. Clue hadn't invested stock into a team with Pitch and Ransom, so he had a incentive. Outside of probably loving their music, he wouldn't have Signed them if he didn't, but he had an incentive to do so. I mean, does Khaled have an incentive outside of Ace Hood is a different conversation. But does Khaled have an incentive outside of what's popular?

[Damaris]

I mean, but when it seems like. When it seems like, you know, you have new famous friends and then you forget about your. Oh. Cause T. Pain is still famous.

[Rory]

And if you forget about it since.

[Damaris]

It'S ever existed and you forget about your old famous friends, that's corny to me.

[Rory]

I agree with you.

[Damaris]

I think it's corny. That's all I'm saying.

[Rory]

I'm just viewing it down to what T. Pain said. Brother means nothing to the people in the music industry. If your music industry friends. I don't know if things are really okay in that way.

[Damaris]

You can't say that in.

[Rory]

I don't operate that way, but I don't expect other people to operate that way.

[Damaris]

No, no, I know, and I don't either. But we can't say brother means nothing to people in the music industry, because to some people in the music industry, brother does mean something. And I have plenty of examples of brothers in the music industry for sure. So that's why, you know, just. Just say brother don't mean nothing to Catholic. It's okay.

[Rory]

Nor does Palestine.

[Damaris]

Yeah, nor does Palestine. Like, just. It's okay. Like, just say that. But don't. Don't make it a, you know, a music industry thing, because we do know the music industry is very cutthroat and it's very up. But we also do know we have a lot of great relationships, great friends, and great family in the music industry as well.

[Rory]

All right, If Khalid got super cold after the second album, do you think T. Pain would be like, yo, let's. Let's do a record in 2025? And Payne never got cold to me. I'm just using an example. Do we think T. Pain would do the same thing?

[Damaris]

No, I don't think so.

[Rory]

You think he'd be like, all right, let's Khaled, because we had those first two projects. Let's. In 2025.

[Damaris]

I got you. Yeah. We've seen artists do it all the time. Artists that had hot records in the 90s, early 2000s, and then they come back in 2025 and be like, shit, Nas and Premier about to put out their first album.

[Rory]

But, I mean, weird.

[Damaris]

No, I'm just saying. But they gave us something in the 90s. If they had been teasing an album.

[Rory]

For years, for 15 years, I want to say. And maybe more.

[Damaris]

And now it's finally. One of them picked up the second childhood.

[Rory]

Sorry.

[Damaris]

One of them picked up the phone and was like, yo. You know what I'm saying? And Nas could have been like, yo, nah, Prem, you ain't that hot right now to me. I. I'm just saying.

[Rory]

Wasn't bowling ball.

[Damaris]

I'm just saying he could have. I'm just saying he could have. He could have. Especially coming off all the Hit Boy shit, getting his first Grammy.

[Rory]

I just don't put Khaled in premiere in the same.

[Damaris]

No, I'm talking about the relationship. Yeah. I'm talking about people still, you know, holding people to a certain regard, no matter if they hot, cold, whatever it is. If we made good chemistry together, made good songs, made good music together, I don't care if you not hot right now. Like, we made some shit together, and we probably still got some shit in the hard drive that we need to go revisit.

[Rory]

But, I mean, that speaks to Prem's character too. Cause Preeminent will work with anyone. That's why I think he's a goat outside of all the amazing shit he did. But his him and Nas relationship started when Nas was nobody at 19 and gave him New York State a month. Preem was already on group home, had been out. Like, Nas was nobody. He was like, yo, I got you, right? Preem is just a different type of human being in that regard. If he fucks with you, doesn't matter how popular you are, he'll say fuck.

[Damaris]

And say brother means nothing to Khaled.

[Rory]

Preem is an amazing human being.

[Damaris]

So say brother can speak to.

[Rory]

I don't know. I know. I know Pre.

[Damaris]

Well, say nothing to Khed. Don't say the people in the music industry. That's all I'm saying.

[Rory]

Do we want to stay just quickly in music? Not that. I mean, this may be more of a Patreon thing. I'm just a rap nerd. Beans put out his list. The top five Philly rappers, excluding himself. I was actually curious what your list would be.

[Damaris]

Philly rap.

[Rory]

Yeah. So this is Bean's top five greatest. Philly without him, of course. Number one, Black Thought. Number two, Young Chris. 3, Freeway. 4, Meek Mill, 5. Gilly.

[Damaris]

Excluding him.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Baby D]

I would want to hear where y' all put Beans on there, though. I know he excluded him, but y' all should.

[Damaris]

Beans is number two to me.

[Rory]

My list would be Black Thought.

[Damaris]

1.

[Rory]

Beans, 2, Freeway, 3. Chris, 4.

[Damaris]

Actually, I gotta stop lying.

[Rory]

I don't know where to put Eve?

[Damaris]

I'm capping right now. Beans is number one.

[Rory]

I'm not mad at Beans being number one. Beans is one of my.

[Damaris]

Black thought is a fucking alien. He could probably rap better than 99% of niggas on planet Earth.

[Rory]

I would say 100%, but I don't.

[Damaris]

Listen to black thought as much as I listen to Beanz.

[Baby D]

Okay, but we're talking about the greatest rappers.

[Rory]

I listen to Beans more like.

[Baby D]

And me and you have had this discussion, too, where just because you listen to something more doesn't make it greater. So greater rappers.

[Damaris]

I'm still going.

[Rory]

My five. I'm sticking with. I'm just. I feel like Eve deserves to be in that five. But I have black thought. Beans, Freeway, Chris Meek. But I want Eve to be somewhere there because she deserves to be there.

[Damaris]

She does. But if it's five, I don't like. I.

[Rory]

Does Chris rap better than Eve? Of course. But I still have to put in, like, Gilly. Look at what Eve has done.

[Baby D]

Gilly rap better than Eve.

[Rory]

Yes.

[Baby D]

Okay. I'm not familiar with Gilly's pen.

[Rory]

No, Gilly is a great rapper. Yeah.

[Damaris]

No, Gilly rap.

[Rory]

Gilly's a really, really, really good rapper.

[Damaris]

He does. He raps better than Eve.

[Baby D]

Just wonder. Yeah.

[Rory]

Gilly rats better than Meek. Yeah, but I put Meek there just because of what Meek has accomplished with songs and. But Gilly rap better than me, for sure. I think Meek would probably say that.

[Damaris]

No, he does. It's not. I mean, it's not. He does. Gilly. Listen, a lot of y' all met Gilly through podcasting. Like.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

You know what I'm saying?

[Rory]

Like, I remember when Gilly was trying to sign Gilly.

[Damaris]

Yeah. Was putting out. You know, he was dropping Joyce. He was on every dvd. Like, Gilly definitely raps better than a lot of people think. And a lot of people really don't know Gilly's. You know, his bars like that. But trust and believe. He's definitely one of the illest ever for Phillies.

[Rory]

And it puts some respect just on Philly, period. I mean, the way people talk about hov taking young Chris's flow. People would say the same thing about Wayne when everything shifted. It was a Gilly flow.

[Damaris]

It was definitely a Gilly flow.

[Rory]

I mean, Philly said.

[Damaris]

Gilly said you was wearing soft toe Reeboks when I met you. See, I wasn't watching.

[Rory]

Flow is iconic. The way Wayne we talk about being so influential. Like, there's a Gilly flow.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Like, I'm not on the side that he, you know, ghost writ everything for Wayne or. I don't even want to get in the weeds of that. But Philly, between Detroit and Philly, I think are probably the two best cities of. Of just straight rapping. Like, if you just got. You just got to rap.

[Damaris]

New York's not in there just to rap.

[Baby D]

Not song. He not the most songwriters.

[Rory]

Just bars Philly and Detroit.

[Damaris]

There, man, that's top two to you. You bugging the out, man. You think Detroit rap better than New York? You crazy as a.

[Rory]

All right. Big Pun versus Eminem. And, you know, I'm not even a big M fan like that.

[Damaris]

Why you snatch Big Pun?

[Rory]

Because we're doing New York. Doing New York.

[Damaris]

How did you get.

[Rory]

That was.

[Baby D]

That was horrible.

[Damaris]

This is what they try to do Big Pun in Eminem. What kind of matchup is that?

[Rory]

We're talking about people just. Just rap. Really? We don't think Big Pun rats really, really, really.

[Damaris]

Well, yes, but I'm saying Pun is.

[Rory]

Not one of the best rappers from New York.

[Damaris]

Yeah. All right. So why you didn't name Jay Z? Why you didn't name Nas?

[Rory]

I think Pun and M have a similar flow than Nas in Eminem or Jay and Eminem. I think Pun and Eminem are closer together as far as how they rap.

[Baby D]

What?

[Damaris]

Do you know how Jay started rapping?

[Rory]

Yeah, like the double time.

[Damaris]

That's not what M does.

[Rory]

Dead in the middle of Italy. Like, I can't even do that. That's M to me, that's one rap.

[Damaris]

That's one part of a rap. You talking about. That wasn't Pun style throughout his career, for sure.

[Rory]

But, I mean, the first album be rapping. Rapping like he rapping with Black Thought.

[Damaris]

Actually, no Pun. No, don't. Don't get it twisted.

[Rory]

But matter of fact, I interviewed somebody named Black Thought, and the first thing when he even got on Puns album was just in Philly. It was like, yo, that's the one in New York that just raps better than everybody. That's why he wanted to get on that. Because Pun was one of those.

[Damaris]

I'm not saying Pun wasn't, but it's just weird for you to say Pun versus Eminem.

[Rory]

Like, who's Hawaiian?

[Damaris]

Might be the first person to ever.

[Rory]

Say something defines Jay Z and how his rap style is.

[Damaris]

No, I'm not saying that, but you might be the first person to ever say Big Pun or Eminem. You might be the first person to ever say that. How does that feel?

[Rory]

I'm not doubling down just because I'm fucking hard headed. I do think that's a very fair comparison if you're doing Detroit versus New York of who raps similar. Pun and Em are very close in that regard.

[Damaris]

All right, I'm taking Pun.

[Rory]

Well, I am too, but that's what we talking about.

[Damaris]

So now the golden horse of Detroit is out. So now who you got?

[Rory]

I leave New York away from all these conversations.

[Damaris]

Don't do that. Nah. You said Detroit and Philly are the best rap cities. That's what you said.

[Rory]

Yeah. Because in Detroit you have Em. Royce Elzai.

[Damaris]

Yep. Legends. Rappers for real.

[Rory]

Shit, I'm just having a brain fart.

[Damaris]

It's okay. Fart.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Should I start naming New York? Because I can. Like, if you want me to start naming New York for you, I can. You know.

[Baby D]

Who would you name in New York? Taking away song making ability.

[Damaris]

Just rap.

[Baby D]

Just rap. Taking away songs.

[Rory]

Because why I'm making that comparison is yes, of course, New York freestyle like that. But New York was so focused on making songs from the 90s and the 2000s. In Philly and Detroit, they was just rapping hours on end, just rapping.

[Damaris]

Philly is one of my favorite rap cities. You'll never hear me say anything about the spitters. I'm talking about the niggas that really could rap from Philly. Like, it's incredible bars that we can quote. But when you say best rap cities and you go Detroit and Philly and.

[Rory]

It'S like, I think M, Royce and Elzai is the craziest three when it comes to just rapping. Like, period.

[Damaris]

Jay, Naz and Big.

[Rory]

They focus on the show.

[Damaris]

You talking about. What are we talking about? Nobody raps better than Jay, Nas and Big. Nobody on planet.

[Rory]

I mean, I'm not gonna disagree because you know where my bias stands on everything.

[Damaris]

But so what are we talking about?

[Rory]

People gonna give you on y' all.

[Baby D]

Ass Fighting for Eminem to be better than all three of them. Y' all do not know it.

[Damaris]

Better than who? JJ, NAs are big.

[Baby D]

Yeah. People gonna die ass.

[Damaris]

You better go back and listen to some music. Jay Z, Nas and Biggie are the best rappers.

[Rory]

I'd always take Jay over M in any category, but I can totally see why someone be like N if you print out a piece of paper. Yes, he's rapping better than everybody.

[Baby D]

Who.

[Rory]

That's what I'm talking about.

[Baby D]

Somebody from LA is screaming across the.

[Damaris]

Coast right now about LA rappers. No respect to all the. All the major cities. You know, we We. We can name a bunch of cities, but I'm just saying.

[Rory]

Rory said, I made the argument the last 10 years. Been out wrapping everybody.

[Damaris]

The LA's been out wrapping everybody.

[Rory]

Yeah, he's had this conversation. Yeah, easy. But if you're going back to the 90s, like, yeah, is Snoop incredible? Of course. But it doesn't add up to all the rappers that were in New York at that time. If you talk about rapping every time.

[Damaris]

Yeah. You say Snoop name. I just think about that. Snoop and DMX versus. I hate that version so much. I hate that they did that. That matchup. You didn't hate that matchup.

[Rory]

Of course I did.

[Damaris]

I hate it. I really can't believe they did that.

[Rory]

DMX said he was molested and y' all kept dancing.

[Damaris]

But see, you. He always gotta make it weird.

[Rory]

See, that was my takeaway from that.

[Damaris]

Yeah, I just. I hated that. I never think that Snoop and DMX was supposed to be in the verses against each other. Like that was. I didn't like that matchup. But rest in peace to the X, to be fair.

[Baby D]

Sorry, who would you have rather matched them up with? Because what I saw that was. I saw that as more of a celebration and a real versus. Because. Who would you put them against?

[Damaris]

Snoop.

[Baby D]

Snoop might be easier. Who would you put DMX against? Uh.

[Sponsor/Announcer]

Hmm.

[Damaris]

I don't know who I would've put X against. I'll have to think about that. Because we're recording. I can't really think of it, but I just didn't. I remember when they announced that I was just like, Snoop versus dmx. That was just. It just never felt. I mean, we looking at it, we Snoop Dogg and then DMX was the dog, man. I think they tried to lean. They went that way with it. But if you talking about catalog and, you know, skill set, and it just. It wasn't a good matchup.

[Baby D]

No, for sure. But that's why I said. I think some of. I think some of the verses were more celebrations than.

[Damaris]

No, that's what I mean, that's what it turned out to be. You know what I'm saying? But I just didn't like. I remember when they announced that I was kind of like, I don't really like that, but I was happy that they gave DMX that platform because a lot of people needed a. A history lesson on dmx. So that was dope.

[Rory]

While we were talking about west coast rap. And then we can move on to Kim K. Having autism or something.

[Damaris]

But wait, what?

[Baby D]

Ignore Rory.

[Rory]

Why is everyone Trying to give Game shit. Listen, we know Game is. Has been proven to. To tell some tall tales before, but him saying he tried to sign Kendrick, I don't think is as crazy as the outrage has been. I understand that Kendrick's bodyguard, who used to, I guess, work with game as well. Pardon two T's, I'm just not familiar because, you know, I'm 35 from New York. But he had said that's he's lying. The first time I think I ever heard Kendrick Lamar was when he was K. On a game mixtape. Like, I don't think it's crazy that Game may have in passing said to Top, yo, can I sign this guy? Like, the outrage for this is because Game has said way crazier lies.

[Damaris]

Yeah, okay, so bring me up to speed. So Game said that he tried to sign to Kendrick, and people are saying that Game is lying.

[Rory]

He was doing. He was doing an interview saying that he tried to sign Kendrick. He went to Top Dog like, you know, because Game in, you know, 05 was brought back to west and J rock was bubbling around 06 and 07. So top has even said before him and Game have a good relationship. He was suggesting that he kept asking Top Dog if he could sign Kendrick because they were just focused on J Rock. But he was like, yo, this young guy, his hype man. Can I sign him? And two T's who worked with Game at the time, but I think they have somewhat of a real relationship now. Is also Kendrick's bodyguard. And he reactivated his Instagram just to say, yo, he's. He's lying. He did not try to sign Kendrick. And I, I'm just more, I guess, weirded out by, like, all the backlash to Game. Like, I could totally see Game who put K Dot not Kendrick Lamar, K Dot on a mixtape. What didn't bring that up in passing to Top?

[Damaris]

Like, yo, I don't. Yeah, I don't. I don't think Game is lying about. That's very easy to see.

[Rory]

There's a way more egregious lie from Game with Kendrick when he said that he told Kendrick he has to change his name from K Dot to Kendrick Lamar.

[Damaris]

But he might have been. He might not be lying about that either.

[Rory]

Well, they found an interview of Kendrick explaining when he changed the name and why he changed it. But who knows?

[Damaris]

That doesn't mean he never. Game never told him that. He just saying when he changed his name, that'll mean Game didn't say nothing to him about that.

[Rory]

Just looking in the last two Days at this whole outrage. I think it's just because anytime you bring up anything that has to do with Kendrick, Drake, whatever, it just becomes a spectacle now. But I was sitting there like, yeah, that makes sense to me. Yo, they listen to the Kendrick Lamar EP because I heard him on a Game mixtape.

[Damaris]

Yo, they really don't fuck with Game because he didn't show up to that pop out. Like, LA has. They have literally distanced themselves from Game and like, a lot.

[Baby D]

But didn't he say that he wasn't invited or something like that?

[Damaris]

You think Game wasn't invited to that?

[Rory]

No. Well, I mean, Game in the. Before the pop out and everything, when the Beast started, Game was sitting on his porch and I respected it. He is a long relationship with both of them and was like, I'm not getting involved with y', all, more or less. I mean, that's. That's the five second version of the 20 minute long live that he did.

[Baby D]

Yeah, that's what it was.

[Rory]

Which, I mean, like, okay, you wanted.

[Baby D]

To stay out of it.

[Rory]

Yeah, if I have a great relationship with this person. I've. I've known Kendrick since he was 17. Like, I tried to sign him, change his name, change.

[Damaris]

Told him to change his name. Yeah.

[Rory]

Discovered knocked on. Just happened in Ding Dong Ditch. His mother's house. Was like, you're the next one. I'm sure that's a Game story somewhere. Yeah. Understand remaining neutral. Like, I have a great relationship with Drake.

[Damaris]

This is.

[Rory]

This is y', all, dude, I could do y'.

[Damaris]

All. Yeah, they just giving games. They just giving Game now. That's all this is. Because I could definitely see.

[Rory]

I don't think Game was invited to the Pop Up.

[Baby D]

Well, he didn't say that.

[Rory]

He just said, I'm just my own. But I could. I'm wrong all the time.

[Damaris]

You don't think Game was invited to the popup?

[Rory]

No.

[Damaris]

Why?

[Rory]

I just don't.

[Damaris]

Game.

[Rory]

I think things got so far at that point that everybody.

[Damaris]

Anybody ever put out a song in California probably was invited to the pop out.

[Rory]

Game is on the Mount Rushmore of California.

[Damaris]

You think he wasn't invited to the pop Out? No, he was invited. I think, and I think he may have said he was in. Was invited in his. Okay, I think he may have said it. This was a while ago, I can't remember, but I think I remember him saying, like, you know, he just declined or something like that. Like he wasn't gonna go. Like.

[Rory]

Well, I mean, AI would never lie to us.

[Damaris]

Notre Dame was not Invited to pop up concert.

[Rory]

Hey, I got all the invitations.

[Baby D]

I don't pay attention to that.

[Rory]

Well, I don't even want to get in that bullshit. I'm super excited that Game and DJ Drama are putting out a project. What's the exact date? Can we look that up? The 12th. December 12th. Game. DJ Drama, Gangster Grills. I can't, sir. I'm getting used to these teeth thanks.

[Baby D]

To Gilly Gangsta Gill.

[Rory]

I'm still, still have a little bit of a lisp. I can't wait for this. Like 15 year old Rory. This is a dream come true.

[Damaris]

Shout out to Game. Shout out to Drom. Yeah, I think, I think Game is going, you know he's gonna have.

[Baby D]

Game's gonna.

[Damaris]

Game, he gonna have some things to address, man.

[Rory]

Well, he said, he said album is coming at the top of the year, so this is just a mixtape. I think Game is going to diss everybody on this. I. I don't think Game is going to take his opportunity to do against the grills and not diss literally everybody. Yeah, I think we may get 500 bars and running.

[Damaris]

All right, well, you say dis everybody. Who you talking about? Who's everybody?

[Rory]

Everybody.

[Baby D]

Who's everybody? Put a bullet, put a name on.

[Rory]

That bullet hole the pop out.

[Damaris]

Everybody that has something to say.

[Baby D]

You think he's going to diss la?

[Damaris]

I think he gonna address everybody that has something to say about him not being at that show. For sure.

[Rory]

Yeah. Game's not somebody that's going to hold.

[Damaris]

Back on addressing never.

[Rory]

Especially on gangster grills. Yo, I have an album coming out top of the year. I'm address all this on a. A mixtape right now.

[Damaris]

Game ain't never duck no controversy, no smoke.

[Rory]

One of the better battle rappers in hip hop history.

[Damaris]

Yeah, he going, I think he's using his gangster grills to get cuz. You know when whenever guys go through things like that and they get quiet and then they pop out with a gangsta grills, it's like, all right, fam, we know what you was doing like these last 10 months. Like, okay, now you got a gangsta grills coming. So yeah, it's safe to say that I think that a lot of this, a lot of these bars are gonna be addressing certain things that happened in the past year. Without a doubt.

[Rory]

The last Game album, he did an eight minute Eminem diss for no reason. They weren't on bad terms. They didn't have back and forth. He just did it just a light eight minutes on an album. Yeah, about Eminem you don't think Game is about to address everybody on a gangster girls mixtape?

[Damaris]

No. Well, definitely. Definitely.

[Rory]

I cannot wait for this. And the silence that Drama had in our group chat made me feel like there's some on there.

[Damaris]

Oh, no, it definitely is.

[Rory]

No, no, but like, it's Game. Of course it's Game. It's Drama, of course, but I think there's some wild on there.

[Damaris]

No, I just think it's typical Game getting some shit off his chest addressing the bullshit. I don't think it's gonna be nothing. That's like too crazy though.

[Rory]

We are talking about J.C. on Taylor.

[Damaris]

Yeah, I get it. I'm looking forward to it. I mean, anytime Game put out new music, I like to hear what he doing. So shout out to Game.

[Rory]

Shout out to DJ Drama, one of my favorite rappers. I can't wait for that. Let's get to way more important news. Kim Kardashian's frontal lobe has no activity. There's nobody there.

[Baby D]

Low activity, what does that mean? So in my research, I'm my little Google look at what we researched, my little go research. It says that low brain activity in the frontal lobe can indicate issues with executive functions like planning, reasoning, impulse control and motivation. And that can lead to symptoms such as personality changes, difficulty with social judgment, things, etc. Etc. Also motor functions like slow movement, poor handwriting, and is associated with conditions such as adhd, depression and frontal lobe disorders. Oh, me and her got the same brain.

[Rory]

Oh, well, if it's motor skills, then it's. It's Caitlyn Jenner that they need to look into. Frontal lobe. Too soon.

[Damaris]

Peach, please don't. Leave that in there. Leave it. Leave that in there. So Kim K. Finds out frontal lobe. Kim K. Finds out she has low brain activity in her frontal lobe. And now the Internet is saying they think that this is Kim K. Setting the screen to kind of endorse getting chips implanted into our brains. Look how fast we turn. Kim. Kim K Now is saying that she is, you know, she has low activity in frontal lobe. Now people are saying, okay, Kim, we know what this is. You about to start sponsoring or you're about to be the face of implant chips. Kim can't even look. Kim can't even have a low functioning frontal lobe without shot trying to attach it to her. Trying to get a bag for some fucking science that's coming now.

[Rory]

A girl from the valley can't have a low brain activity.

[Damaris]

Like, what the fuck are we talking about, man? Like. But I mean, hopefully, you know, do we Think that this has anything to do with her not passing the bar?

[Baby D]

No, because I just explained to y' all literally what low brain activity in your frontal lobe means, and it had nothing to do with intelligence. Oh, nothing to do.

[Damaris]

Well, look, that's. My frontal lobe is not. Because I didn't even retain.

[Rory]

Yeah, you were too impulsive. That's why it's definitely working.

[Damaris]

It's here. The third eye is not. It's a little. I need to put some Visine on the third eye.

[Rory]

As some. That's hilarious. Maybe in the street just seeing somebody just put this on their forehead.

[Damaris]

Yeah. Gotta put the Visine right here next time. My bad.

[Rory]

As someone that is a conspiracy theorist, I don't even know how y' all even jumped to that. But maybe they're right because there's been a couple conspiracies that I've been like, this is. And ended up being true. This could be the path. I'm as much as. I think Kim K. Is a very accomplished businesswoman. She hasn't really influenced much in my life. I wouldn't go get a brain chip and use code Kim to do it.

[Damaris]

35.

[Rory]

But. But do we think people would look at Kim to then start putting chips in their brain?

[Damaris]

No. If it was anything beauty related, maybe. But I don't think people are going to look to put chips.

[Rory]

Where do they put makeup on their third eye?

[Damaris]

That is true. But. Yeah. I don't know.

[Rory]

Right over here, I think.

[Damaris]

I can't see it. I get people trying to attach the Kardashians to all kind of crazy. Y' all like to, you know, put the Kardashians in a lot of. But I don't. I'm not. I'm not correlating this. I think that, you know, she obviously got tested on the show for her frontal lobe. Okay. Found out she has low, low brain activity in her frontal lobe. No worry now.

[Rory]

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[Rory]

Mal I have to give Baby D some flowers. We did the Put Me on segment on Patreon. Also we did get drunk for our Thanksgiving dinner which is available now. New Roy Mole on Patreon right now. I have to give her some credit man. She our Put Me on segment for those that are not subscribed to Patreon, we put each other on to some new music, new shows, new, you know, new whatever, whatever you're reading new books. And she said that you and I need to listen to Nle Chopper and he ended up going viral to the point that now our Put Me on segment is presented by Walton University. Shout out to Demerit man who knew Just a Patreon episode of put me on segment plus plus us getting drunk on Thanksgiving would lead to some sponsorship. Newormal.com shout out to Walden University. I mean this is did you see the Nle Chopper video?

[Damaris]

I didn't see it yet and y' all been trying to show me this video. I I saw like 10 seconds of it.

[Rory]

I saw you only need to see. One second.

[Damaris]

Yeah. I saw what he was wearing, and I just cut it off. I couldn't. I couldn't get it. But. Shout out to Nle Chopper, though. I just couldn't get into it.

[Rory]

I saw Freddie. Freddie Gibbs posted it. Posted this. That's how I saw it to begin with. Then I saw the Internet killing him. I think the video is fire and the song is fire. I'm not familiar with the whole youngboy diss. And even the one he did before when he had the fake young boy in the video. I have no idea what their history is, nor do I fucking care, but this video is incredible. And the song is kind of fire on the low. Like, I would do this TikTok challenge.

[Damaris]

I just can't. I don't know. I don't know enough about Nle Chopper. I don't know what his. What's his thing? What is he like? What is he. What is he. Is he rapping? Is he singing? Is he rap singing? Is it melodic raps?

[Rory]

He's basically Prince.

[Damaris]

All right, I'm not listening to Baby D. What is Nle Chopper?

[Baby D]

He's a rapper. He's a rapper, but he has his melodic moments. But he is a rapper. Told y'. All. That boy a star.

[Rory]

Nah, she put the world on. I mean, I know he was popular before, but until Demer said something on Patreon, I don't think he was gonna go as viral as he was gonna go. I don't care if he's beefing with Youngboy.

[Sponsor/Announcer]

I really.

[Damaris]

So this is another NBA youngboy diss.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

How many are we at now?

[Rory]

I have no idea.

[Damaris]

Yeah, I'm just trying to. I know. I think this is 2, 3, 2. Okay.

[Rory]

But I did try to give him a chance, and now he's pretty good.

[Damaris]

Okay.

[Rory]

And I know everyone joked on this. This song's really not that bad.

[Damaris]

So I should check this out.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

I just saw what he was wearing, and I was just like, I don't.

[Rory]

But do you think this is, like, what the goal of a music video should be at this point? As much as I like, love and respect artistry and, like, art and film and cinema, the point of a music video is a commercial for your song.

[Damaris]

True.

[Rory]

You should be trying to just go viral with funny sometimes or just make.

[Damaris]

Good music and let that go viral.

[Rory]

I think it's good, but.

[Damaris]

Okay. I mean, like, you seriously like it.

[Rory]

It's not something that I'm. I probably won't never listen to the song again, but when I Watched the musical video. I said, it's all right.

[Damaris]

Okay.

[Rory]

I kind of don't even understand why people killing it. It's funny. Like, I get why Freddie gives. Is probably in his house on Thanksgiving laughing for 20 minutes straight. Because it's hilarious. Because Freddie even said. He's like, I don't know why I'm laughing. And I felt the same way. I don't know why this is hilarious to me, but it's fucking hilarious.

[Damaris]

Yeah. I remember him doing, like, a weird dance move in one of the videos, and I was just like, I don't know what he's. It just looked like it was something that I just felt like I shouldn't subscribe to. I don't know. But I'll check it out.

[Baby D]

Okay.

[Damaris]

I see he's trying to give us. Was this his rendition of Thriller right here? Well, it's just like Ace Ventura, Pet Detective.

[Baby D]

Nah, he eating.

[Rory]

He's supposed to come out of a rhino's ass.

[Damaris]

Yeah, that's. I thought that was next. They couldn't get the rhino.

[Rory]

They couldn't.

[Damaris]

They couldn't find a trained rhino.

[Rory]

You think Jim Carrey used a real rhino? It wasn't even a real rhino in the movie.

[Damaris]

Oh, man. He look like he having fun, though, man. Fuck it. If nothing else, have a good time creating art, man.

[Rory]

You know, I saw a lot of people on. On Twitter saying, if this came from another artist, like one that we revere more, they would think this is the most incredible thing ever. And I kind of felt what they were saying.

[Damaris]

Yeah, if this was Missy, we would be like, this is the most incredible.

[Rory]

It's a good video.

[Damaris]

No, it looks great. Like, the video shot very well.

[Rory]

Hilarious.

[Damaris]

It looks great. I just gotta hear what he's. What he's saying. But the video. No, the. Visually, it looks. Yeah, Like I said, I saw the outfit, and I was just like, all right, I don't know what an elite chopper is on right now. What he doing? And I kind of just turned it off, but this looks good.

[Rory]

Is he in a relationship or something? Isn't he popular because of dating, too?

[Baby D]

No.

[Rory]

I don't know.

[Baby D]

No.

[Damaris]

Popular because of dating. That's the thing.

[Baby D]

That's a thing. But not.

[Damaris]

That is a very.

[Rory]

That's a thing. More than being popular for your music. It's not a crazy statement.

[Damaris]

Being popular for dating is a thing.

[Rory]

Well, while we're on the Put Me on segment, um, now I'm even nervous. Cause. Cause Damaris set the standard so high. Do you have something for put Me on this week.

[Damaris]

Yes. A new show on Prime. Peacock. All Her Fault. Dakota Fanning is in it. Jay Ellis is in it. Sarah Snook.

[Rory]

Okay.

[Damaris]

It's about a woman goes to pick up her son who's on a play date with a boy that he goes to school with. When she arrives to the house, the mother doesn't know who the lady is. Never heard of her. Doesn't know who her child is. Never heard of the child starts the investigation. Now that her and her husband are looking for the son, they start to find out a bunch of deep, dark family secrets.

[Rory]

I like it.

[Damaris]

It's one of those shows that I think everybody like during the pandemic when we were watching you, Honor.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

And the Undoing.

[Rory]

The undoing. Yeah.

[Damaris]

I feel like this is leaning down the undoing path, kind of like a who done it, what's going on type of thing. But a lot of heavy hitters, a lot of heavy weights is in the show. So. All her fault on Peacock. Amazon prime video.

[Baby D]

That's funny. I was going to watch that cuz I did hear good things.

[Damaris]

Yes, you should definitely watch that, baby.

[Rory]

D. I still have Eden's peacock logging, so I'll tune in tonight.

[Damaris]

Yeah, you'll. That's. That's your type of. You'll. You'll binge it.

[Rory]

It's my type of.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Rory]

All right. Since you went TV show. I'll go. Music. Hales, who I've talked about for years, I think she's incredibly, like, criminally underrated. Hales. The five EP, five records is 14 minutes. Throw that on when you're in the car. It's absolutely incredible. Like, she's one of my favorite R B artists by. By far.

[Damaris]

What's the name of it?

[Rory]

Five ep.

[Damaris]

Okay.

[Rory]

By Hales. H A I L E S. We worked on some music together as well. I hope she gets the credit that. That she deserves because she's one of them, in my opinion. Kansas Peach. She lives in New York now, but, yeah, she's from Kansas. She's incredible. Um, I think I. I should. I even put a. When we were doing 20, 23 R&B list, I think I put good things Take time by her at, like, number two of my favorite albums of. Of that year. She. She's incredible. I gotta check out Hills, uh, Damaris.

[Baby D]

Mona Leo, and this. Most people know who Mona Leo is. So. This isn't me trying to put y' all on. This is me trying to put the boys on because I. We talk about female rappers a lot and we Tend to talk about the same ones. But I do wanna let you know that there are others. Mona Leo. Mona Leo is from Houston. She's really, really good. She has a wide variety of things that she talks about. It's not. I wouldn't consider Mona Leo pussy rap, but Mona Leo is really, really good.

[Damaris]

She's from Houston.

[Rory]

Yep.

[Baby D]

Yes.

[Rory]

Oh, yeah, I know who that is.

[Damaris]

She looks for me.

[Rory]

I feel like I'm from ma.

[Baby D]

You should check out Sexy Solon, but she.

[Damaris]

Sexy who?

[Baby D]

Sexy Solon. It's a song.

[Rory]

She has sexy salon.

[Damaris]

Like, Ha.

[Baby D]

No, Solon.

[Damaris]

Oh, Solon.

[Baby D]

Yes.

[Rory]

Okay. I mean, we love Houston women.

[Baby D]

So Mona Lil. She just married Stunna for Vegas. It was a very big, cute pink lady.

[Damaris]

Okay. That's where I know I've seen her face before. All right. Okay.

[Baby D]

Yes. All right.

[Rory]

So. Yes. Who you dating?

[Baby D]

That's the. Get off that Don Julio at the Foolio. That's her. But she has so many other songs, and she's really good. She's going on tour at the end of this year, going into the next year, and I think that 2026 is gonna be like, a huge year for. For her.

[Damaris]

So Mona Leo.

[Baby D]

Mona Leo. Yeah.

[Damaris]

Shout out to Mona Leo.

[Rory]

I mean, this isn't really putting anyone on, but while we're here talking about TV shows, we're recording this on December 1st. December 2nd, the Puff Netflix documentary comes out.

[Baby D]

Oh, God.

[Rory]

Tomorrow. That is EP by 50. He's been doing press runs and interviews about it already.

[Damaris]

He did Good Morning America, too?

[Rory]

Yeah, he did. Yes.

[Damaris]

Yo, 50, look what 50 doing. Good Morning America. I didn't even know 50 get up that early.

[Rory]

He went for this. He didn't go to bed.

[Damaris]

He threw a suit on. He had a suit on. He had his good suit on.

[Rory]

I think it was a teal suit. It was a color I've never even seen 50 in.

[Damaris]

Yo, 50 is crazy, man.

[Rory]

What do we think we'll get out of this? And by the time everyone hears this, the doc will be out. So again, we're speculating. I don't think we're going to get much out of this. Based off even the trailer and what they talked about with Good Morning America, where they had footage of Puff wanting hand sanitizer after he dapped a fan. I was like, this is what we're doing. You know, I love 50 and revere him. All that shit he said, I think it just speaks to his character. I'm like, I want hand sanitizer. Sometimes after I dab somebody, I don't.

[Damaris]

Know with these documentaries, though, because I feel like we saw so many documentaries before Puff even went to court.

[Rory]

Yeah. No, the next day.

[Damaris]

How fast does it take? How long, how quick? I think do a document.

[Rory]

This is more of an actual doc the way, like, some of those on Hulu and everything that were like, literally the next day are just, you know, they're. They're getting five talking heads that work in media, and then they're just piecing together photos and telling the story. This, I think, is supposed to be a real doc.

[Damaris]

Okay, well, we'll have to check it out. I don't know what we're gonna find out that we don't know already, that we haven't heard. But 50 was on good Morning America. I gotta watch he sold me.

[Rory]

No, I'm gonna watch it. And in no way am I a Puff supporter by any means. But the gotcha clip that they put on Good Morning America, I was like, all right, is this necessary?

[Damaris]

Yeah, but that's why I want to watch it, because I just want to.

[Rory]

See, like, this is the gotcha moment. Yeah, Hand sanitizer. But again, there could be crazy shit in there. But if this is what they're using to sell a documentary, I don't know if we're going to get much information.

[Damaris]

And it's Netflix, right?

[Rory]

Netflix.

[Damaris]

All right, well, got to check it out.

[Rory]

Yo 50s he be bored sometimes.

[Damaris]

All right, so put me on Walden University. Don't forget, we are checking out Mona Leo. I got to see what Mona leo talking about hales5ep. Hells5ep and all her fault on Peacock prime video.

[Rory]

It's always her fault.

[Damaris]

It's always her fault.

[Rory]

Finally, somebody said it.

[Damaris]

I'm willing.

[Rory]

I've been waiting for this series.

[Damaris]

We're gonna come, we're gonna recon. We gonna come back and talk about after I watch it. But I'm willing to bet it is her fault. It's the mother's fault.

[Rory]

That would make sense.

[Damaris]

I'm willing to bet it's all her fault.

[Baby D]

Yeah.

[Rory]

And you know what? That's how to say I bet she takes no accountability.

[Damaris]

Yeah. No, no, no. Definitely don't know accountability. No, that's not. They're not taking accountability.

[Rory]

Well. Yeah, I can't. I can't wait to watch that over the week. But let's get to voicemails.

[Damaris]

You've got mail sponsored by Boost Mobile unlimited thought text, and bada yo says you're from New York. Big fan of the show.

[Rory]

I had a question for y'.

[Damaris]

All. So basically like, somewhat recently, you know.

[Rory]

Me and my mom's kind of had, like, some.

[Damaris]

Some. Some dope bonding moments or whatever. And I remember, like, she was getting into bud when she was older, when I was older. She's always been older.

[Rory]

And she was like, yo, I want to grow plants. And I'm like, I bet I hit my boy.

[Damaris]

So my boy came through, blessed her with some plants.

[Rory]

To this day, she grows.

[Damaris]

But whenever she comes to see me, she'll bring me some butt. And we smoke together.

[Rory]

And I just feel like that's some.

[Damaris]

Real dope that, like, I never thought as a kid. Like, you know, me and my mom could bond like that.

[Rory]

Like, smoking in front of my mother was crazy. So my question to y' all is, you know, what's a. What's your favorite bonding moment that y'.

[Damaris]

All had with, like, either one of.

[Rory]

Your parents that y' all remember to this day?

[Damaris]

Favorite bonding?

[Rory]

That's a really, really good question. It's a really good question. Damn.

[Damaris]

The earliest bonding moment that I can remember with my mom was definitely music. Listening to Michael Jackson, I always his off the Wall. My mom had a whole bunch of vinyls, and I would always grab the off the wall album cover. There was something about just Michael Jackson in the suit, you know, standing against the brick wall. Like, something about that cover. I remember always, like, being drawn to it, and then my mother playing Thriller and things like that, like, introducing me. I remember my mom introducing me to Michael Jackson at a very young age.

[Baby D]

What about as an adult? Like, what bonding moments can you remember as an adult?

[Damaris]

Um, we watch a lot of shows together. Not, like, together, but, like, we'll follow shows, like, we'll put each other on to, like, shows. I put my mom onto a lot of shows and just talk about shows and laugh about certain shit that we've seen in the shows. Like, so that's been kind of cool, like, watching my mom, like, watch some of the shows that I like, and then she'll watch them like, I ain't like that shit. Like, she'll call me back like, I couldn't finish it. I ain't like that. I was, like, three episodes in. But that's been pretty cool to, like, watch shows with my mom and kind of follow things and then see the shit that she be watching. And I'll be like, yo, what are you doing? What is this? Like, what am I watching right now? But she always has a show here and there that she like. And I'm like, okay, that was cool. Succession is her shit.

[Rory]

That's incredible.

[Baby D]

So she'll probably, like, all her fault.

[Damaris]

She'll definitely. I think she's watching it now. She's definitely watching all her fault. But succession. She loved. She just loved the way everybody was dressed in succession to the nines.

[Rory]

Okay. Yes.

[Damaris]

She's like, oh, my God, they be wearing that shit. I'm like, you supposed to be following the story. Not really looking at the suits, but I get it. Yeah, they do have very, very great suits on Succession.

[Rory]

Yeah, even. What's Shorty's name in succession? Blanken. The daughter.

[Baby D]

That's bad.

[Damaris]

Motorbio.

[Rory]

No, it's at the tip of my tongue. Pause.

[Baby D]

Does she have such a cool name? I know I'm gonna name my kid after her.

[Rory]

Oh, my God. And I know everyone's screaming at their shiv.

[Baby D]

Siobhan.

[Rory]

Her wardrobe was fired through the whole thing, too. Like, she looked good. Yeah, she went crazy, I would say. With my pops, we drove from Miami to Key west for his little sister's birthday one year. I must have been, like, 23 or 4. That was a cool drive because he let me, like, control the music, and, like, I just got to play my pops a bunch of music I liked and, like, watch him like the music that I like more as. Like, it being racket more.

[Damaris]

Turn off that rack.

[Rory]

Yeah, that. And, yeah, it was just, like, a cool bonding moment. And then driving back, I mean, I know there's not much detail I can give in those conversations, but, yeah, that was like one of those, like, oh, my dad is my friend again, like. Or we've buried a lot of that we've had. And, yeah, it was probably that. Miami to Key West. Key west back to Miami. My mom's sort of similar, too. We got invited to my cousin that passed. Husband got remarried in Hawaii, and we went out to the wedding, and we weren't really part of that family, so me and my mom just got to kick it for, like, three, four days.

[Damaris]

Okay.

[Rory]

And just chill. So, yeah, I don't have, like, a really cool story because it's more personal, but, yeah, those moments of just, like, chilling with your parents one on one as an adult are exact P. Just laughing at me now. I feel insecure.

[Damaris]

P. Just so insensitive, yo.

[Rory]

But I'm trying to pour my heart out. Me and my pops stopped at the bars that have, like, the tarpon fish that you could feed. Like, it was a bonding moment. And Peach just thinks that's hilarious.

[Damaris]

How old? Do y' all remember the moment that y', all, like, started looking at your Parents as just, like, adults and not your parents.

[Rory]

Mid 20s.

[Damaris]

That's like, a real thing. Yeah.

[Rory]

No, when you realize.

[Damaris]

But it's also a cool thing because I think it kind of helps you humanize. Yeah. It kind of helps you get past certain resentment that you have might have towards your parents for whatever happened growing up. When you realize, like, oh, my parents was just trying to figure out.

[Rory]

They were young teenagers.

[Damaris]

They was young adults with a kid. And just trying to figure out.

[Rory]

Even finding out a few episodes ago that your dad was in Vietnam, like, that humanized him for me even more. Based off the stuff that you've told me about your pops, like, it added context to some. Like, what that would be like coming back from Vietnam in the place that you would be mentally.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Rory]

At that point. Like, even that humanized your pops more to me.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Rory]

And would you realize they. They're no smarter than us.

[Damaris]

Just trying to figure it out, man. Give your parents some grace.

[Rory]

No. Oh, for sure. For sure. As a. I'm trying to think what else? Me and my dad, Thanksgiving, ironically, we. We saw the butt fumble in person and. No, I know. Like, I'm not joking. It was a great day because me and my dad didn't do Thanksgiving. Him and I just went to the jets game and, like, just one on one on a holiday. Skipped all the family shit. It was like, a nice fucking time in that regard.

[Damaris]

That was another cool bonding moment for me and my mom. My mom took me to see the Kings of Comedy.

[Baby D]

Okay.

[Damaris]

At Madison Square Garden. It was just me and my mom. And I had, like. I was drinking champagne. Cause they had, like, waiters with, like, the trays of champagne walking around the Garden. And my mom grabbed, like, two and let me have one. Like, I don't think I was. I wasn't 21 yet. What year was the Kings of Common, the original Kings of Comedy? Lower show at MSG? That was definitely the early 2000s, 2005, maybe. Okay. So, yeah, I was. I was legal. I was. I was old enough to drink. Barely legal.

[Rory]

It's most favorite keywords, yo.

[Baby D]

Oh, 2000. 2001. 2001, mom.

[Damaris]

Oh, so, yeah, I don't.

[Rory]

So you'd been 20, right?

[Damaris]

Yeah, I was 20. So, I mean, I was. Yeah, I was 20.

[Rory]

She snuck you a little something.

[Damaris]

Yeah, I remember that. I remember, like, the waiters was walking around the garden. They had, like, champagne on the trays, and people could just. You could just take one. And I remember my mom snatched, like, two. Me and her had some champagne. It was just Me and my mom went to see the Kings comedy. That was dope. I remember that night. That was a dope night.

[Rory]

I know it was a complete left field shit. But it reminded me of my mom taking me to the Heartbreaker tour. I got in the wildest Mariah Carey argument ever last night. And I. I think it was. I think these people listen to the show I was at. I was at my man Denzel's 35th birthday at his crib, and I felt like I was being yelled at by seven Damaris at one time.

[Baby D]

Good.

[Rory]

I. I apologize to the Mariah Carey community. I did not know you guys had the stands that you. You guys have. I almost, like, left early from the birthday party because I was just being cursed out by Mariah fans. I almost FaceTime Demaris to be like, here's your tribe.

[Damaris]

I'll add you to the founder tribe. Damaris. Yeah.

[Baby D]

People with common sense. I love that they still exist.

[Rory]

Yeah, but they try.

[Damaris]

But you know why?

[Rory]

But they also. No, they also try to tell me that Mariah Carey is a better vocalist than Beyonce and Jasmine Sullivan, and I want to lose my goddamn mind.

[Damaris]

All right, we not gonna do that.

[Rory]

I wanted to lose my fucking mind.

[Damaris]

But here's the thing. This is why I don't fuck with Baby D. Because Mariah just put out an album, and I ain't hear Baby D play it one time.

[Baby D]

You haven't heard me play. Mad that I listen every time I.

[Damaris]

Come in here, you got some twerk, twerk, twerk.

[Rory]

You just lied.

[Baby D]

You just lied. Ma was the last. You're a liar. When's the last time you heard me play music in here? The last time you heard me play some music in here was when Cardi's album dropped. That's it. I don't even be playing.

[Damaris]

That was three weeks ago.

[Baby D]

That was not three weeks ago. That was damn near. That was two months ago.

[Damaris]

Same shit. Tomato.

[Baby D]

No, I don't play music in here.

[Damaris]

Who's counting?

[Rory]

Do you like the new Mariah album? I haven't listened to it.

[Baby D]

It's good, but with Mariah, it's tough. I go through the same thing with Janet. It's like, I.

[Damaris]

Right.

[Baby D]

Please stop saying that.

[Damaris]

It's not.

[Baby D]

I'm sure that there's some autotune on her voice, but AI is something completely different.

[Damaris]

I'm not even. I'm not even trying to be funny. I think, like, they AI'd Mariah's voice.

[Baby D]

I know we talked about that, and I don't agree with you.

[Damaris]

Okay?

[Baby D]

So we can agree to disagree on that.

[Damaris]

But if we find out that it was AI, you gonna say sorry?

[Baby D]

Say sorry. I would say I was wrong.

[Damaris]

I'm using victim mentality. My feelings are hurt right now.

[Baby D]

Oh, okay. I don't give a. But I will. Tell me to say that I'm wrong. I'll come in and say that I'm wrong. But sorry. I'm sorry that your feelings were hurt. How's that?

[Damaris]

I'm sorry that you took what I said.

[Rory]

I'm sorry you were offended.

[Damaris]

I'm sorry you offended by the things that I said. Yes. I tried that one time.

[Baby D]

Familiar. Yeah.

[Rory]

But it did put a lot of things in perspective. Because I know J. Cole and Mariah are like. That's. Damaris is like one and two with everything. And I understand both their fan bases. They'll try to make you out to be a hater when you. I love J. Cole and I love Mariah, but I felt like. I felt like a hater when I was arguing with the Mariah.

[Baby D]

Stan's life. Well. So here. Here. Here's what I'll give you. Right? When you do that argument with J. Cole, I'll listen. Because you're informed on J. Cole. You're not informed enough on Mariah to even be arguing.

[Damaris]

He don't even know me.

[Baby D]

To or against?

[Damaris]

You don't know, Mimi.

[Rory]

I was at the emancipation.

[Damaris]

He don't know. But you don't know, Mimi.

[Baby D]

No.

[Rory]

What'? You don't know what either.

[Baby D]

What are her fans called?

[Rory]

Mimi's.

[Baby D]

No. Lambs. You see what I'm saying? You really not down.

[Rory]

Are they Greek?

[Damaris]

Hold on, hold on. They're called what?

[Baby D]

What? The Lambs.

[Damaris]

Lambs. That's the name of Mariah Carey's fan base. Lambs?

[Baby D]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Why is it the Lambs?

[Baby D]

Oh, God, it was. It used to be, like a term of it. No, it's like little. Like little Lamb is like a term of endearment. Like old. You know, old people shit. Like lamb all doll. Be a lamb. Like, it's like that.

[Damaris]

It's like a. Mariah Carey fans are called lambs because the term started as a inside joke between her and her friend Trey Lorenz with his singing ass, where they say, be a lamb to one another. Okay. Carrie began using the term as a term of endearment for her fans in the early 2000s, and it stuck because they embraced it, leading to the creation of the term. Lambilly, lammily, lambly. Oh, like lambly.

[Baby D]

The B is silent.

[Damaris]

Oh, lambily, lambly. Okay. For her fan base. Oh, okay. That's cool.

[Baby D]

Okay.

[Damaris]

I didn't know that. You definitely told me.

[Rory]

Mariah may have the worst name fan base of all time.

[Damaris]

Be a lamb. You don't like that?

[Rory]

No, I think I like the term be a lamb. But call me lambly like that's who I am. I'd rather just be a Stan Lammily is the Call me Stanley group.

[Baby D]

It's a group of people from my family.

[Damaris]

I get it, baby D. Thank you. I see what Mariah was doing anyway. What y' all about to go? What you about to go do?

[Baby D]

Me? I'm going to the Bryant park in Woodern Village.

[Damaris]

You going where?

[Baby D]

The Bryant Park Winter Village in New York. Over at Bryant Park.

[Damaris]

Oh, Bryant Park Winter Village.

[Baby D]

Yes.

[Rory]

That's cute. You gonna do ice skating?

[Baby D]

No, no, I'm not gonna do ice skating. It's kind of fucking cold. I just wanna go get like hot chocolate. I mean like the hot chocolate and the hot apple cider. Cause you guys know I'm on my fast so I can't eat from 6am.

[Damaris]

To 6pm and you about to break fast with a hot chocolate.

[Baby D]

Not a hot chocolate, the little apple cider. Apple ciders. Woo.

[Damaris]

You better get home as soon as you can. Soon as you can.

[Rory]

She's gonna be on the lamp.

[Damaris]

It's gonna be lamb all over the skating rink. You ever see lamb? You go ahead and drink that apple cider vinegar after a 12 hour fast.

[Rory]

Apple cider vinegar? You think she's going to Brian park to buy apple cider vinegar? Same.

[Damaris]

It got sugar in it.

[Rory]

Yo, hot apple cider is great though.

[Damaris]

You do you like that?

[Rory]

Yeah. Hell yeah.

[Damaris]

I haven't had. I had apple. What is it? Hot apple cider. I had that one time when we went apple picking. I was in like middle school and it tastes like battery acid and I never tried it again.

[Baby D]

Oh, you asked something bad. Cause I was a kid, you had something bad.

[Rory]

Well, try cold apple cider, which I love as well. But warm apple cider is incredible.

[Baby D]

And you could get the kind with the little donut on top, the apple cider donut. It's gonna be so good. I'm so excited.

[Rory]

Oh, that's the one.

[Damaris]

That's a good combo, Baby D. That's some white.

[Rory]

That's cheese and wine.

[Damaris]

That's some white shit you just named Baby. I was not expecting you to say a donut on top of.

[Baby D]

No, it's.

[Damaris]

They don't get whiter than that. No, no, it's a White. It's y' all shit. That's your culture. Yeah, from the Caucasus Mountains. That's what y' all used to.

[Rory]

It's that and genocide.

[Damaris]

When it was cold, you used to drink hot apple cider and with a donut because it was minus 20 degrees.

[Rory]

Yeah. You think we was making donuts in the Caucus Mountains? Oh, killing boar.

[Damaris]

All right, well, Baby D, have fun.

[Baby D]

Thank you.

[Damaris]

Don't hurt yourself. Cause we gotta come back in this week and work some more, unfortunately. So don't break your leg. Don't go out there on the skate rink and try to do a triple axel. Don't play yourself. Please don't do that.

[Rory]

I want to try that before I die.

[Damaris]

A triple Ako.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

You're gonna die soon.

[Rory]

No, I know. Figure skin. It'd be fun. That's a great sweater, by the way.

[Baby D]

Thank you. Rory bought me this sweater. He wanted everyone to know that was me for sure.

[Damaris]

You know, white people can't give you a gift without, like forcing you to say thank you.

[Rory]

And then we call it Indian giving, which is even whiter.

[Baby D]

Home of the greatest. Shout out to Toosie. Toosi is stopping his music career and going to Syracuse to play football because that's his hometown. So. Shout out to toosie.

[Damaris]

Okay. 25 year old rapper Najor. That's his name. I'm fucking his name now. Jor. Toosy Granger commits to play football at Syracuse. All right. Shout out to Toosie.

[Rory]

I ain't mad at it. Great uniform.

[Damaris]

Follow your dreams, man. It's all good.

[Rory]

These are great pants. Can we plug these? I'm serious.

[Damaris]

Shout out to Vanity. Shout out to my guys aunt and G. West coast vanity. This is vanity.

[Rory]

Oh, yeah. They gotta send me a pair.

[Damaris]

You know, I only wear shit with people that I support.

[Rory]

Yeah, those are fire. Really, really like those pants.

[Damaris]

Shout out to Vanity, man. For the pants.

[Rory]

Shout out to Audi that gave me this shirt because my oil change took three hours when it was supposed to.

[Damaris]

Take one to give you a shirt. Yeah, they clean. They checked the oil with that shirt. It was like.

[Rory]

I sat in the Audi waiting room for three hours when it's supposed to be one hour. And it was like, here's a shirt. Sorry.

[Damaris]

Oh my God.

[Rory]

But I like the cut.

[Damaris]

It's a good color. I like that color.

[Rory]

Yeah. I wasn't even mad. Like I was fuming. As you know. You've seen me in a TSA line.

[Damaris]

Yes. How do you think I was at an Audi line? I already know it was worse.

[Rory]

But then I was like, oh, and it's American Apparel. I was like, yo, look at the collab.

[Damaris]

Good fit, good leg. I like it. All right. Well, Baby D, have fun. Rory, congrats. Congrats on the new teeth. Eat away. Chew, chew till you can't no more. And we'll talk to y' all soon.

[Rory]

We're going to talk about Mar's first day of 3K in the next episode, by the way.

[Damaris]

Okay, we'll talk to y' all soon. Be safe, be blessed. I'm that nigga. He's just ginger. And Rory has a new Hollywood smile. No worry about mall.

[Rory]

Random little charges hit you all the time. Coffee, delivery fees, even a plant that you don't like.

[Damaris]

Exactly. Life doesn't come with a budget app. But the Klarna card feels like it should.

[Rory]

It's your debit card upgraded. Use your money. Choose how to pay upfront now or plan ahead to pay later.

[Damaris]

Still responsible, just smarter. It works anywhere Visa is accepted, zero credit impact.

[Rory]

To apply, sign up for the Klarna card by downloading the Klarna app or learn [e-mail] US Klarna card.

[Damaris]

Klarna Card. Pay later. Plans issued by Webbank. Deposits in your balance account are held at WebBank. Member FDIC. Anywhere visa is accepted, certain merchant product, goods and service restrictions apply. Some merchants do not accept virtual cards. Physical card only. Included with a paid klarna membership plan.

[Rory]

PCs powered by Snapdragon X Elite processors.

[Damaris]

Are made to go the distance with.

[Rory]

Blazing fast performance, next level efficiency and multi day battery life.

[Damaris]

Snapdragon processors are built to tackle it.

[Rory]

All, from highlight reel editing to intense player research. So you can be at the top of your game wherever the day takes you. Learn [e-mail] laptops Snapdragon the heart of your PC.

[Damaris]

Battery life varies significantly based on device settings, usage and other factors.

[Rory]

Look, Santa, the kids left you.

[Baby D]

Pepperidge Farm cookies.

[Rory]

Milano mint chocolate, so rich. Chessman butter cookies, so buttery. And Linza raspberry. A holiday classic. These are fancy Santa. Fancy Santa, Fancy Santa. Designer cologne.

[Damaris]

Spritz Me.

[Rory]

Vintage timepiece.

[Baby D]

Classy o'. Clock.

[Rory]

Gold chain with diamonds. Now that's fancy. Pepperidge Farm Cookies.

[Damaris]

Fancy a taste?

[Rory]

Let's play a little holiday. Fill in the blank. Are you ready? Jingle Blank. Obviously it's jingle jammies.

[Damaris]

Because when Old Navy rolls out the.

[Rory]

Jingle jammies, you know the holidays are officially on. The new collection is their biggest ever. 22 prints in tons of styles, from classic plaids to playful patterns. They even have coordinating graphic tees, sweatshirts, socks, fleece blankets, and even pet sweaters.

[Baby D]

Get your jingle Jammies Crank up the.

[Rory]

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[Baby D]

This is an iHEART podcast. Guaranteed Human.