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Mall
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Baby D
The volume.
Mall
No worry. And now it owes me nothing. They owe me nothing.
Baby D
I love that. Whenever they leave that little caption, Miami owes me nothing. What you was out there doing at Art Basel?
Rory
What you was doing.
Baby D
Why Miami owes you nothing.
Rory
Okay, so how much did you take?
Baby D
If they don't owe you nothing?
Rory
So owe me nothing. Did that replace take me back?
Baby D
No, owes me nothing means, you know.
Mall
I don't need to go back. I did everything I came for.
Baby D
Everything is done. You know, I had a. I had an interesting weekend. Met somebody, you know, you know, you know, you know where they be in love for 72 hours.
Rory
Yeah, she was booby trapped on the river.
Baby D
Yeah, Miami owes me nothing. Get your girl if she posted Miami. As a matter of fact, you don't have a girl no more. If she. She posting Miami Os or nothing.
Rory
If she went to Basel not to work, then you don't have a girl.
Baby D
Yeah, like so shout out to Art Basel though.
Rory
Oh, I love art.
Baby D
You know, I mean, shout out to all the artists and the people that really are out there, you know, pushing art forward. Are you okay, man? What you doing?
Rory
I don't know what the. This is falling apart.
Baby D
What is that, man? What's going on right now?
Rory
And we're back. Yeah, sorry, some technical difficulties over here.
Baby D
Mic pause. Hey, yo, I said pause.
Don't even get respected.
Mall
No, before you say the gay, you up the rules.
Rory
Well, you have the gay lava lamp in front of you.
Mall
Yeah, I don't know. I'm a hippie. I want to smoke weed. Looking at this.
Rory
Which call back. If you didn't see our previous episode. For some reason, mall equates lava lamps to gay people while we equate them to potheads, stoners, people that hang fucking sheets on their wall. Those type of people.
Baby D
People that hang sheets on a wall are definitely meth heads.
Mall
Tapestry.
Rory
No, they're like going through their fake hippie era meth.
Just.
Baby D
You could just say it.
Rory
Why?
Baby D
Why you got to start identifying the drugs correctly. Stop putting everything on weed.
Rory
Why did all the bloods in the Bronx take beads away from hippies?
Baby D
I don't think they took him away from him.
Rory
You had a. You had a bead necklace in 06.
Josh
Me.
Rory
Yeah, he was affiliated.
Baby D
You know what's funny about saying that? Like, you would have to really know me to know how funny that is. Like, if you think I had ever had beads on my neck.
Rory
You know the blood beads I'm talking about, right?
Baby D
Yes, I do. Of course I do. I was never a blood, though, so.
Rory
I know, but you.
Baby D
Why would I have that around my neck?
Rory
Yeah, you like Kendrick on Reddit. They're not sure. Is he a blood top? Tried to hide you.
Baby D
Only saying I had beads around my neck because you had the wood Jesus piece.
Rory
100 did.
Baby D
Yeah, you was definitely.
Rory
And I had the rosaries with the matching bracelet.
Baby D
Smoking a black and mild. That's when you.
Rory
I'm sure the photo is on my. On my Instagram.
Baby D
That's when you was deep in the trenches. How deep in the trenches were you at that time in your life? For real? Let's talk about it. Let's unpack it.
Rory
I was going between the Bronx and Newark. So, yeah.
Baby D
Oof.
Rory
That was my back and forth, one trench to another. At the time of the rosaries, was. Was my uptown phase one trench. And then when I couldn't find a place to sleep, I go sleep in Newark.
Baby D
O, man, that's a sick couch serve from the fucking the Bronx, yo.
Rory
I remember how excited my grandmother was when she saw me with the rosaries and the bracelet because she thought, like, I had really become you, giving your life to Christ. Yeah. Like, after my confirmation, she was like, hey, you should take it more serious. I'm like, nah, I'm confirmed. I don't have to go anymore. Yeah. When she saw that, she was like, really thought that I was about to step in a priesthood. And I'm like, nah. Bitches love this.
Baby D
Yeah. That's all it is.
Rory
We're back.
Baby D
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Look, man, we. Listen, man.
Rory
What?
Baby D
It's all right. Just be yourself. Be who you are.
Rory
I am.
Baby D
Come out. Come on.
Rory
No, I'm.
Baby D
Tell the people.
Rory
Mo. I said, not like this.
Baby D
You didn't want to do it.
Rory
I wanted to do it for my second album rollout.
Remember when Frank came out as an album rollout?
Baby D
Oh, my God, man. That's y'. All. That's y'. All one. That's y' all king. For sure, Frank. That's y' all king. Y' all love it.
Rory
Blonde was my second stream album this year.
Baby D
It was.
Rory
I feel so seen on air.
Baby D
Blonde. Oh, my God, man.
Rory
Greatest written R and B album of all time.
Baby D
No, that's a fact. I'm listening. You're never gonna get me to say anything negative about Frank Ocean. He's a legend. Hopefully he's somewhere creating some beautiful art to give us. Hopefully not at Art Basel, but.
Rory
Oh, listen, whatever he is, I'm deep in the Frank streets.
Baby D
Hey, yo, he's in what streets?
Rory
What train do you take?
Mall
Why you put an extra E and D? That's what made it gay. He said, I'm deep in this Deep.
Baby D
Don't look at me in my eyes when you say that, though, because now I don't. I feel uncomfortable.
Rory
Nah, you got the. You got the floppy hat today. You on the same side as me. What this fit is either you're gay or you do deaf Def Jam poetry.
You do spoken word at the New Eurekan.
Mall
Madam.
Baby D
Sorry. Thank you.
Rory
With the glasses.
Baby D
I appreciate that. Thank you so much.
Rory
Word.
Baby D
Appreciate you. The Stream Awards, what are. This weekend?
Rory
Yes. Did they stream it or was it on cable?
Baby D
I'm not sure what it was on. I just saw some clips on, you know, social media. Shout out to Blackboy Max. He won Best Music Streamer.
Rory
Well deserved. Well deserved. Shout out to Black Boy.
Baby D
Shout out to the Bronx legend, Kot. He won three or four.
Rory
Yeah, he was on his Lauren Hill.
Josh
Shit.
Rory
He.
Baby D
He had.
Rory
He has.
Baby D
He poured champagne in him. I didn't know. I don't even know what the award looks like, but. Shout out to Kasanat.
Rory
He won marathon stream, right?
Baby D
I mean, he would have to. He was. He was streaming for half the year.
Rory
Yeah. Imagine losing and you did that.
Baby D
He was streaming for seven months straight or some shit like that.
Rory
I mean, how many people do the marathon stream? Like, I'd like to know how many people were in that category? And is it the way marathons go? Like, I understand the Kenyans are going to win, but can I be, like, the person that just comes in last place, like, two days later, probably. Like, can I just put my shit on and just go about my life or just, like, leave it in my.
Baby D
Kitchen streaming for, like, that. That we don't. I mean, we. Listen, obviously what Kai did was incredible, but it takes a lot. And I think, you know, Kai, when his acceptance speech, he was speaking to mental health and things like that, and that's something I always thought about when. Like, when Kyle was doing all that, I was like, how is this. How is this guy? Like, how is he dealing with this mentally? Like, it has to be stress, pressure, knowing that you're on camera 24 hours a day for months. I mean, I just don't know how somebody is able to do that. I just don't. I just don't.
Rory
Like, like, without cocaine, not, not, not.
Baby D
Drugs, but, like, just being able to mentally disconnect for a second. Like, how do you do that? And then not only that, because if I start streaming tomorrow. Cool, right? It's not gonna be that many. We talking about millions of people watching this kid at one time for days, weeks, months.
Rory
You're speaking about Kai, which I completely agree with. Shout out to the fans. Like, you guys are watching that the entire time, which is fucking crazy. Like, you're doing that marathon with him. Yeah, that's nuts. But that's a dedicated fan.
Mall
The fans get to. The fans get to turn it. They get to turn it off. Like, even when we did our stream and our. Our very first stream, and I wanted it to be very entertaining, there were times where I would step away and have to breathe and turn off. Like, that's a. It's like you're putting on. Not pretending, per se, but you're putting on. So to. To do that for days and days and months and months on end. I could not. I would collapse.
Rory
I would literally collapse.
Mall
I have no idea how he's able to do that.
Rory
And I mean, granted, I points Kai will have other people be there so he can sleep, but even records himself sleeping. Like, I. I wouldn't even be able to shut my brain off knowing there's a camera looking at me while I'm.
Mall
Because you can't even fart in your sleep. Does he turn the mute off? Like, he mutes it?
Baby D
Yeah, you can fart in your sleep. That's the streamers. Love that.
Rory
Yeah.
Baby D
Makes them feel like they know you better.
Rory
That's a thousand more subs.
Baby D
Thousand more subs per far.
Rory
Sometimes I talk in my sleep. Like, sometimes I have, like, weird jolt reactions in my sleep. Like, what if I have a wild dream and the world gets to watch me experience that thought?
Baby D
It just make the clip in and you go viral. That's all.
Rory
Can they find out I'm a serial killer?
Baby D
Yeah, it builds the show. Shout out to Speed. He won streamer of the year.
A lot of the videos I've been seeing, the Speed. He might be one of the best Athletes in the world. Like, it's. I don't think it's anything speed can't do. It's definitely nothing he won't try, but he's definitely one of the best athletes I've ever seen.
Mall
I want to shout out to Lil James, who is one of. Kai Sanat's friend who stuck up for him when another person in that life, Fan, fan, was doing, like, a live interview segment, like, during, like, the hosting of the awards, and she called Kai so not Diddy, like, because people have been making that joke about the way he looks and saying that he resembles Diddy, but he's like, yeah, congratulations. She was like, congratulations on, like, your doc. That just came out, comparing him to Diddy. And it was just like the whole room kind of got silent because that's not even funny. And it's just some shit you just don't joke about.
Rory
Yeah.
Mall
And Tylo called her out. I'm like, yo, if you're gonna make jokes, at least be funny. And I like when people stick up for their friends because I'm like that. So I just wanted to shout out to everybody's.
Rory
Kai didn't even, like, do the. Like, oh, my God. He just was like, what the. What is wrong with you? And listen, I'm the last person that should talk about tasteless jokes. But I was so happy that that gentleman did that for Kyle. Like, what?
Mall
That's.
Rory
All right, Cool. If you want to make the joke, make it funny.
Mall
Yeah.
Rory
Because that was just, like, odd. And I don't think he looks like Puff.
Baby D
He does. He looks like a young Diddy.
Mall
He looked like they could be distantly related, but not enough. You know what I'm saying? Like, not enough for it to become a thing. Like, he was like, I don't distantly.
Baby D
Related, but he cut his hair so he looks more like him now.
Rory
Fair. Okay, Fair enough.
Mall
But either way, that was just like, such a.
People got to understand, like, jokes like, stand up comedy ain't for everybody. Off the cuff comedy, like, ain't for everybody.
Rory
And a lot of streamers are very funny, podcasters included, radio personalities. A lot of people are funny sitting down on a mic like this. But to do stand up, host something. Yes. A way different monster. Like, just because you're funny in your computer chair does not mean. Remember when Charlemagne did that? What was that show on MTV? 2.
Mall
Impractical Jokers.
Rory
Charlemagne the God did not do Impractical Joker.
Mall
I didn't know.
Rory
I didn't know. Yeah. Uncommon Sense. And I respected that. Charlamagne. Was trying to take certain people that were funny on Twitter and put them on that show. But not everybody is tax who's funny in real life. Like, it was clear that a lot of people that have 140 characters to make you laugh when you put them in front of a mic, though, you're not, like, you're not funny at all.
Mall
Most of the people on Twitter are.
Rory
Like, you get to sit and think about that and reword it and like, nah. Off the cuff on a TV show, you're trash. Which is fine, but it just doesn't translate all the time. And that was a clear indicator at the Streamer Awards that some of y' all aren't funny that way, which is cool. I probably. I'd be trashing it too, but.
I'll.
Baby D
Be wanting to say, shit, man, but I'll let y' all have it.
Rory
Nah, go ahead.
Mall
Don't say it.
Rory
Go ahead.
Baby D
Nobody would have felt the way if that was a black woman making that joke.
Mall
Yes, they would have.
Baby D
No, they wouldn't have.
Mall
Yes, they would.
Baby D
We do it all the time. Every award show is a comedian hosting, makes inappropriate jokes. Nobody's upset.
Rory
It's not that we're not saying, Diddy jokes can't be made. It just, like, make it funny.
Mall
It wasn't like.
Rory
It just. Yeah, that's the thing. If you have a punch, have like a punchline.
Baby D
That's not funny.
Rory
Fair.
Baby D
It's a lot of hostess have said. We sat here was like, yo, they were not funny.
Mall
Yeah, that's fine.
Rory
I'm not.
Mall
Shout out to his friend for getting out of mic and say, yo, if you're gonna make jokes, make it funny. Nobody's saying, cancel shorty end her career. Nobody's making up.
Baby D
I know nobody's saying that, but it's.
Mall
Like, yo, shout out to.
Baby D
I just feel like nobody would have felt away if that was a black woman that made that joke.
Mall
I don't. I think that because we tend to.
Baby D
Take jokes from each other differently than we do from people that's not from our culture.
Mall
I feel like, yes, we do joke on each other and we're a little bit. But that's obvious within every race, right? People are a little bit more comfortable with their own race mates, whatever the fuck you want to call it. Right. But at the same time, you also have to look at the age group that that's in. They're not the jokes that, like, we. That y' all used to get off in the 80s and shit like that. Like, we live in a More sensitive time.
Rory
Anyway, the 80s is crazy.
Mall
Maul wasn't joking in the 80s.
Rory
Of course he was. The jokes we were in 2010 are different.
Mall
Yeah.
Baby D
So like 2010, 2019. 2020.
Rory
Yeah.
Baby D
To five years ago. Like inappropriate shit is funny sometimes. Now I get it.
Rory
And also the streamers. I feel like. I know we say this, this generation is. Is a little more soft and tiptoes around the PC type of thing, but let's not act like when it comes to streaming, those guys don't cross the line way more than we do.
Mall
They cross lines, yes, but they are more hyper aware and it's mainly because.
Rory
Rumble exists for a reason.
Mall
They've lived. Yeah, that's fine. But that's not Kai's audience. And when you're on like, like the streamer awards, like those type of platforms that are supposed to be there, like those are their official platforms. Right. So to us we're looking at it like we don the. That is they're younger than us. But that's their official platforms. That's their Oscars. You. When it comes to racial, racial sexual assault shit, they grew up in an era that. That cannot be laughed off. So they do a lot of inappropriate shit. But that's, that's all they do is.
Baby D
Laugh at that type of. Not young. Don't give a about none of that.
Rory
She's speaking more to the Kai part of the genre. The rest of the streaming world is far worse than any of us have ever.
Mall
Yes. Aiden Ross and all of them. I'm not talking about them. I'm talking about the buttoned up official people of. Of this.
Baby D
All right, let me ask you a question.
Rory
Speedy and Kai are not like laughing at sexual assault.
Baby D
Let me ask you something, baby D. If India Love made that joke with Tyler had said something, I'm sure he would have get the. All right, man. That's what we doing today. If India Love made that joke, nobody says nothing.
Mall
That's your opinion.
Rory
I can disagree with you because they, because they were trying to like beat or because.
Baby D
No, it's just different coming from. Depending on who it's coming from. That's all I'm saying. If it was somebody that's from our culture that said that. Somebody that we cool with that said that.
Mall
Okay.
Rory
By the way, I think that makes sense though, ironically. Like. Yeah, yeah. Certain people can't make certain jokes.
Baby D
People get too comfortable. No, I'm. I'm with that. But that's what. That was my first thing they should.
Rory
Learn that they shouldn't be so if.
Baby D
It wasn't an Asian girl that said that, if this was a black girl that said that, nobody would have said nothing. Tyler wouldn't have asked for that mic and said one word.
Mall
I still think he would have. I still think he would have said something. Because I think as his. I think because it's his friend, it's like. Like, don't compare me to somebody who's sexual. Like, that's not. You know what I'm saying? Like, that's not funny. Like, that's a big deal in our culture. It's like a big nasty thing. This is a terrible person. Like, you're making a joke about me looking like a literal monster. Like, that's not because. And yes, the added fact nine, that saying that I look like that is always when it comes from somebody non black. So I get your point. When it comes from somebody non black, you're basically saying all black people look alike. Because I'm sure Kai don't think he look like Diddy. Right? So you're basically saying all black people look alike. So there is a little added sauce to it. So would it have been less disrespectful coming from a black woman? Yes. It wouldn't have been funny coming from any race because it just wasn't funny. But again, we could agree, disagree.
Rory
While we're on the Diddy subject, Kia had not seen the Diddy doc, so I rewatched it on Saturday with her. And yo, the fact that there was a shooting in Chalice Studios in Los Angeles and nothing has came of it is the wildest thing in the world. To me. That's something that just has not been brought up more. I understand there's so much to talk about with the Diddy doc, but. And no trap La Ross. I'm not trying to, like, start an investigation. Somebody got shot at Chalice Studios where Nas and Hitboy recorded nine albums. Like, we're not talking about some low level studio. Someone got shot in the one bathroom that's on that side and we don't even know where he, like, where's the gentleman?
Baby D
Chilling. Gone.
Rory
That's a whole doc in itself. Like, there should have been another episode.
Baby D
Yeah, man.
Rory
That's not crazy to you?
Baby D
No, listen, I watched it again.
Rory
Lil Rod had video of the bathroom with the blood everywhere. And like, LAPD was like, I mean, case. Case closed.
Baby D
It didn't happen here. It's all good.
Rory
It happened at an outside party. You've been to Chalice? Where is there an outdoor party in the parking lot?
Baby D
It's crazy. Yeah, man. But overall, the documentary, like, watching it again, like some things that I caught the second time around, it really was a very well put together documentary. Now again, I don't know if everything is, you know, true or facts or whatever, but just looking at it, you know, the way it was pieced together and then having that footage in real time and then watching things unfold, I think the way they, that team put that together, that was a really well put together documentary.
Mall
And just to clean up something that we said from the last episode, Lil Rod did not get $69,000 from Diddy. Y' all said that in the last episode.
Baby D
Who said that?
Mall
Y' all said that?
Baby D
I never said he got 69.
Rory
That's why we said 29.
Mall
He didn't get anything.
Baby D
So Ja Rule called out 50 Cent for the DOC for the Diddy documentary. He said, he said 50 is. Is always snitching or something like that. He said this always telling on somebody old dry snitch ass sybau, which I just found out the other day, means shut your ass up. I love that. But then he goes in to say, let's be real, that didn't give a about the victims. We all know why he did the doc. Herman's a cancer to the culture. If he cares so much, then donate the profits to charities for domestic violence. Herman's no different. Allegedly, 50 Cent has been involved in at least one well documented domestic violence incident. In June 2013, he was accused of kicking his ex girlfriend and the mother of his son, model Daphne. It's cool when he does it. It's a problem when I do it. Fuck out of here. Herman, an abuser is a. Herman is an abuser too. Allegedly. Now I understand if Ja, you know, he wants to kind of say, hey, listen, man, the pot cold and the kettle black. You got your shit in your closet too. You got skeletons in your closet. I get that. But is 50 snitching by executive producing a documentary on Diddy? Is this considered snitching?
Rory
Well, 50, I love John. I love 50. 50 is not a snitch, despite what that side is said about. He's not that. And no, this is not snitching. If you see a woman getting beat, you should tell the police.
Baby D
But what if you.
Rory
I don't care what code you're not like.
Baby D
But what if you have allegations of you hitting a woman as well?
Rory
I'll be honest. And this is not a cop out. I really don't know about that. 50k. I was not familiar with that entire thing, honest to God. But, I mean, if 50 knows he didn't do that, I'm not saying he did or didn't. He knows he didn't do that. I don't think there's anything wrong with this. And, I mean, I guess it goes back to even where I get misrepresented with that Drake video. I didn't care what Drake's intentions were. If it was for himself to sue the label, it could benefit everybody else. I don't care if his. I'm not saying that he went out to do that just so he could represent artists. He could have just been representing himself. I don't give a fuck. At least this information gets out and everyone will know it and it could benefit somebody. I feel the same way here. Do I think 50 is petty and probably.
Really push for this because he has an issue with Diddy? Of course, I don't know if he was just sitting there like, we really need to focus on victims, but I don't care. I mean, I don't care what his intentions were, because the information is important.
Baby D
Yeah.
Rory
So, yeah, I feel rule what he's saying.
Peach
Yeah.
Rory
You could make a case that maybe 50 was just doing this to be petty with Diddy, but cool. Here's. Here's all the information we needed to know. So I don't think there's anything wrong with that.
Baby D
Yeah, I mean, I get it. I understand what Ja's saying is, you know, 50 allegedly has some shit in his past, too.
But, I mean, this is what 50 does. He's a TV producer. He's an executive. Like, he's supposed to produce shows. And this is what he's been doing for well, over what, 10 years now?
Rory
Yeah.
Baby D
So, I mean, you know, I get JA50's thing. I get what Ja is trying to paint about 50 having, you know, a lot of, you know, some mustard on his jacket as well.
Rory
Okay. And then. But then you go when you say that now you're doing the waterfall of. Would Ja Rule even call out 50 if he didn't have an issue with 50? Let's say Ja Rowan 50 never even crossed paths, or let's say they were even cordial. Do you think Ja's getting on Twitter because he cares about. I'm sure I'm not saying Ja doesn't care about victims. I want to make that clear.
Baby D
Right.
Rory
But Jai is not doing this because he is so concerned about all because he has an issue with 50. And I'm sure 50 did it because he had an issue with Diddy, right? So what are we doing? It's the gift. Like, what are we doing at this point?
Baby D
It's the gift that keeps giving. I got beef with you forever. I'm executive producing the documentary. Calling you an animal, a monster.
Rory
Yeah, Like, I don't know. I feel like Ja, if there.
Baby D
If.
Rory
If 50 was in the same situation Diddy was, as far as actions, I think Ja would probably produce that doc.
Baby D
Ja would definitely produce that doc. 100. If he had footage falling him and.
Rory
Fire Fest Guy, I would do that in a harp.
Baby D
If Ja had footage falling his hands painting 50 like that, he would definitely executive produce.
Rory
And I mean, we're all hypocrites. I'm a hypocrite. Like, it's just part of being a human. But the more we do this, the more we exp. All right, well, what would you do in that situation? Right? Like, we had. We can't call people out when you would do the same fucking thing.
Baby D
Now, you had. You had hit my. You had DM me some fucking video about a Diddy Nipsey conspiracy. I didn't even read into it. Look at it much. Like, what. What was it?
Rory
I. I sent it in the chat just to show, like, the stupidity of people and, like, how much I'm starting to hate the Internet even more than I already did. Because people, this is why you should have to fill out an application to speak on the Internet. Like the fact that you could just see a documentary where clearly Puff was doing some nasty back end shit, no pun intended. Now all of a sudden, without even looking at the facts of Nipsey's case, similar to the PAC one, you punched the wrong Crip. There's not really a conspiracy here. Nipsey, unfortunately, something internal with the family that he is affiliated with. Now you have a woman getting 2.2 million views saying Diddy was jealous of Biggie and Tupac. Nipsey was from that same cloth. So then Puff decided, you know what? I'm gonna take. I'm gonna take Nip out too.
Baby D
Again, we have.
Rory
Because he. Because he crossed paths with Lauren London. He wanted to get Lauren. Like, the. What world are we. I don't even really want to talk about this, to even shine a light on this type of stupidity.
Baby D
But that's not. Again, with Meg winning the case in court with the young lady. I forgot her name, Milagro.
Rory
Yeah.
Baby D
With her winning that. Because basically it's defamation of character. I believe that's what she like. Wouldn't people be more inclined to just be careful with the type of things they say or paint about people on the Internet. Or do people just be like, it is what it is. I'm getting my shit off. I'm getting my views. I don't care.
Rory
I just feel like the, the Grok and community notes and all that. If we're going to use AI correctly, if you post a video on X, it should go through a filter and come back and say, hey, you're, I'm not posting this. Like, you should have to upload your video to X and Grok&AI and community notes should look at it and go, you're fucking stupid. I'm not putting this out to the world because there's a bunch of other stupid people that are going to look at this and go, yeah, she has a point, right?
Baby D
I'm not mad at that. Maybe we do need to use it for that.
Rory
Because I've even seen people saying, going in the comments, Diddy and Lauren London conspired to kill. Like, you know, that's like a widow that's still grieving. Yeah, adding her and all this like, yo, what the is wrong with y'?
Peach
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Baby D
Yeah, people don't kill the Internet, you.
Mall
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I think about traffic every day.
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Rory
While we're here, can you please explain this Matt Barnes situation to me? Ball. I am so lost in everything that is going on. So he, he sent money to an AI chick. He, he a robot. And then the robot then conspired against him. But how you get extorted by a robot?
Baby D
Well, no, he got. It was a. It was a fake page. It was an AI page or AI model.
Rory
Okay.
Baby D
Somebody was running a page with pictures of an AI model.
And basically, you know, kind of like swindle Matt Barnes into sending 5,000amonth for like a year. So like $60,000.
Rory
But it was a woman. Well, obviously if it was AI, but like he never spoke to this person. Was she sending AI nudes? Like what. What was he just sending 5k for? That's where I'm really lost.
Baby D
I don't know. We can look. We can look at it. Josh. I don't know what the real story is, but I do believe it was somebody saying that they were like gonna come. Go public and say that it was a pregnancy or something like that, or pregnancy scare.
So it was fake text messages, fake audio messages from somebody saying that they were gonna, you know, go public and leak a story being pregnant by Matt and things like that. And Matt's. Is Matt Barnes married? He was. So. But his partner was pregnant during the time and he was saying that he didn't want it to go public because I think he was saying that she was a high risk pregnancy. Didn't want to stress her out, didn't want her, you know, lose the baby, lose the pregnancy. So he tried to, you know, whatever he had to do to make it go away. So if it was 5,000amonth, he was just sending that wire every month.
Rory
Okay, but understand, I mean, don't cheat on your pregnant girlfriend. But wouldn't he know that this was fake because he never fucked the robot?
Baby D
Well, yes, so you would assume so, yes. But I think he was just scared and panicking. He had went through something, I think last year, where his girlfriend had released some text messages and caught him talking to some girls and things like that. So I think he was kind of like, oh, shit, not again. Whatever he needed to do to make it go away.
Rory
Yeah, but you could read a text and be like, this is not me.
Baby D
Yes, you. And I can. Yes.
Rory
And like, I know, but Matt, I know this, this woman who I. I think is a woman, not AI. I've never or met this person. So how could you extort. Something's not adding up. In the story, man.
Baby D
No, listen.
Rory
And it's not 5k.
Josh
Like, what.
Rory
What month did he say? 6k 61k. Does not add up to.
Baby D
Well, total.
Rory
Did she. Did she show AI butthole and he sent 6K? One one month?
Baby D
Well, no, I mean, it was. It was $5,000 a month, the wire transfers for like a year.
To somebody, and then he found out that it wasn't real. There was an AI model. So now he's suing Tasha K. He's filing a lawsuit against Tasha Kay.
Rory
Oh, never mind Matt Barnes. I didn't say anything. What you mean, I didn't say anything.
Baby D
You didn't pump the story. You not pumping the story out there.
Josh
You just.
Rory
I'm just confused by it.
Baby D
Yeah, I was too. I just don't know how you get caught up in something like this. I get it. If it's a real woman that, you know, you had some dealing with, you.
Rory
May have gotten pregnant.
Baby D
I totally understand that. But this AI model shit, like, I just don't know. Like, Matt must have just been so scared and so paranoid and didn't want to lose his girl that he was just like, man, whatever I gotta do to make this shit disappear, fuck it. It is what it is.
Rory
What's. What's your extortion number?
Baby D
My extortion number?
Rory
Yeah.
Baby D
You can't extort me.
Rory
No, I understand.
Baby D
You're cool, but no, I'm just not getting extorted. What would I be extorted for?
Rory
This is hypothetical. Of course. I'm trying to think what information? All right, let's say. Let's put this same situation, you're with your wife, high risk pregnancy. You are certain that, hey, maybe I got this girl pregnant because I have slept with her. What is your extortion number?
Mall
There.
Baby D
There's no extortion because to me that makes it worse. Like, getting a side chick pregnant is bad.
Rory
I agreed. I'm not here to talk about the moral.
Baby D
I think your girl goes crazier if knowing that you was sending her money every month.
Rory
Okay.
Baby D
I think that would just add fuel to it. Like, not only did you get a girl pregnant while I'm pregnant, you were sending her money every month. Like that. That's just adding insult to the injury.
Rory
Like, I know you're right wing and pro life, which I respect. So again, this is hypothetical. What's your extortion number for the abortion?
Baby D
I don't know. It depends on who the girl is. If it's a girl that I had abortion, same situation.
Rory
You have a wife that's pregnant that's hiring now all of a sudden, it's more.
Baby D
If it's a girl that I have, like a real relationship. If it was just like a fling, one night stand, and she happened to get pregnant, yeah, we might have to talk about sending some money. But if it's like a girl. If it's a girl I had a real relationship with, it's like, yo, we a family now. You know, like, fuck it.
Rory
No, you have a family. You have a wife.
Baby D
I love y' all both and I love the kids.
Rory
So what happened to the Nuclear family, Walt? 30 seconds ago, we were a nuclear family.
Baby D
I fucked up. I made a mistake, but I'm not going. You know, if it's somebody I have a real relationship with, then, you know, we gotta do it. You ain't extort me, but if it's somebody I just met on the road, had a fun night with, I slipped up, she got pregnant. Then it's like, yeah, I'm not having a fun night.
Rory
All right, so what's the number?
Not your NBA salary, your salary here.
Baby D
I don't know. 10K she might get. She might have that. Take this 10K, ride off into the sunset.
Rory
I better hope that baby shower brings us a lot of stuff because 10k is hurting me.
Within a child is 100k. So it's like. I mean, exactly. What's the P L on that?
Baby D
Exactly. Send the 10k, man.
Rory
Is it 10k all in or do you also have to pay for the abortion? That's where I think that the 1k came from. In the 60.
Baby D
No, that's all in.
Rory
It's an all in fee.
Baby D
10K all in, get rid of it, go shopping, take a vacation, do what you got to do. 10k all in.
Rory
Tamaras is pissed at us right now.
Mall
About what?
Rory
Because we're joking about abortions and I think that's mean to women.
Mall
I don't care about that.
Rory
Okay?
Mall
He. I'm. From the reports that I'm seeing, though, the AI never claimed to be pregnant. She just claimed to be sleeping with him or with him. She never.
Rory
Okay, but how many do you have?
Baby D
So it wasn't pregnancy that you can't remember, it was just sex?
Mall
Yes.
Baby D
Oh, now, Matt tripping, not sending you no money, and we just had sex. I thought she was saying she was pregnant.
Mall
Well, he didn't her because she's a she, a robot.
Rory
But I'm saying, how many women do you sleep with that you forget?
Baby D
But that's why I said mat Matt was out here. Listen, Matt got bitches.
Mall
It's funny cause he's suing Tasha K. For not. Like, he's like. Tasha K. Didn't confirm whether the material she was spreading was real or not. Nigga, neither did you. Like, right?
Baby D
Like, you had. You was in a whole AI sue yourself text message back and forth with an AI Model. Like, you didn't even know what was going on. Like, so how could Tasha Kay know what's going on? You don't even know what's going on.
Rory
And, like, did Tasha K. Post the actual messages?
Mall
Tasha K. Posted all that stuff and claimed that Matt Barnes was being unf.
Rory
Please see these text messages. That was from AI because I feel like. And again, I. I don't get pitches, so this is a world I may not understand. At the Matt Barnes level. When do you not remember text conversations with women you're sleeping with?
Baby D
Yeah.
Rory
Like, even if it's a one night stand, you would remember the address. Like, nah, I never stayed there.
Baby D
Yeah, Matt. Matt was. You know what? Matt was.
Rory
Matt. I am confused.
Baby D
Matt was out here wilding.
Rory
Yeah.
Baby D
That why it was going out every month.
Or.
Rory
Or is. God damn. Or is. That's what's a. He didn't send the money.
Baby D
No, he sent the money. Money gone.
Mall
Money gone. It's crazy.
Baby D
Money gone.
Rory
Who.
Mall
Well, who has the money?
Baby D
Whoever was running that account. Yeah, whoever was running the account.
Yeah, that's how that goes. But this is the. But, you know, this is a thing, though. Like, there's accounts that I was put onto. Like, people saw that I was following. They was like, yo, you know that girl, like, her boyfriend runs that account. Like, she be getting dudes to send her money. So, like, it's a real girl, but it's not actually her account. Like, her boyfriend's running an account. Dming guys talking. Guys start sending, you know, cash app, this, that, and the third. Like, but it's not her at all. It's just her pictures.
Rory
I mean, Mo. This did happen to one of the greatest linebackers in Notre Dame history. First round draft pick. He did. He dedicated.
Which bowl was that to his dead girlfriend, who was just some dude crazy.
Yeah, I think I was in high school, like, tearing up, watching what Monte Teo. What was his name? Fed. And that was like the peak of college football, in my opinion at that time. Like, I was crying hearing his speeches. I think I became a better Catholic because of it. And it was just some other. Now. Now it's a woman because the gentleman transitioned into a woman. So let me be respectful it was just a they on the other side instead of a blonde white girl who died.
Baby D
I just don't know how you feel like that. How do you fall for that? Like, I don't trust. Listen, you gotta go through. You know how you gotta go through the two step verification on like X and all of that. Now it's like seven step verification with me. You start talking about, send somebody, who are you? Call me right now, FaceTime. I need to see all of it.
Rory
And if you FaceTime me, I'm still not seeing you.
Mall
All of it is.
Baby D
Yeah, I need to see all of it. Like, you gotta, you gotta. You gotta show me whole all of that. Like, I'm like, who are you? When did we hook up? Like. Cause I don't remember you. You not. I can't. I don't know. Just getting caught up in something like this is just like, there has to.
Rory
Be more to this story.
Baby D
Maybe Matt feel like he did owe some girl some money in like somewhere and she was coming to collect. So he was like, all right, let me just pay this girl. There has to be something connected to this on Matt's side that he's not telling. Like, this is not just an AI model trick Matt Barnes into sending $60,000.
Rory
Like, I hope they kill us in the comments and we have this entire story wrong. This makes no fucking sense to me whatsoever.
Baby D
Yeah, I'm with it.
Rory
And I mean, at this point, you have to have some audacity to sue because everything is going to be put on the table with the case.
Baby D
Yeah.
Rory
So, I mean, Matt feels like he must be right in this situation.
Baby D
So is Matt. Matt is filing a lawsuit against Tasha K. For defamation. I don't know if how far that will go and if Matt will win that because again, you know, Tasha's only spreading information that we have. I don't know how I can be. Defamation? Well, no.
Mall
Well, so Tasha K. Is not reporting on this. Like, how we're reporting on this. Tasha K. Was reporting that Matt Barnes is cheating on his girlfriend. And I have proof. That's defamation. That wasn't true.
Baby D
And the proof is this.
Mall
The proof was the fake text messages, the fake audio and all of that stuff. That's not proof. You didn't verify. You're basically. That's like, if somebody says, yo ma got a secret family and somebody goes and spreads on the Shade Room, fake messages, fake AI pictures of you and your family, you can be like, bitch, I'm suing you. That's not true. So. And you didn't do Your research as a journalist. You didn't do your research, and you're spreading misinformation. My thing about Matt is Tasha K. Filed bankruptcy because she owed cardi B. Like, $10 million. You not getting no money from her.
Rory
She has more debt than somebody.
Mall
Yeah, like she has nothing to lose. So you're now making this even more embarrassing because we. I didn't hear about this from Tasha K. We didn't know about this. You've made it a bigger thing, and you're not going to get any money from her.
Rory
Yeah. To me, Tasha K. Is someone that has five life sentences. So she's just gonna keep murdering everyone in the jail. Like there's not. You can't give me any more time, so I might as well just do this. Unless she's doing the Dame Dash family office and is just moving assets left and right.
Baby D
Of course. Son of my mama's name. Not under my name. Sending my mama's.
Rory
No, didn't. Didn't Cardi B. Figure that out? She was putting under her husband's name or something? Probably that happened in Cardi B found, I think, whack. And Cardi B. Found that in about two minutes.
Mall
Yeah. Because she owes Cardi over 3.9 million. She's paying 1.2 million over five years because she claimed bankruptcy.
Baby D
So sorry. She could spread it out. Cardi need that money, though. She want that cash. Give me that.
Rory
I don't know. I guess the prosecutor would be like, all right, what's your definition of cheating? If you're texting someone, that could be considered cheating, but this guy. Some people think flirting is cheap, but.
Baby D
This gotta be embarrassing to Matt Barnes, though, like, on so many levels. It's like, how did I get. How did I fall for that? How? Like, you know how crazy that's in waking like, yo, you know that money you were sending?
Rory
You know, that's not like, didn't he drive 30 hours?
Baby D
Or.
Rory
I'm thinking of a different.
Baby D
Oh, yeah. To see Derrick Fisher.
Mall
Yeah.
Baby D
He was trying to see defense.
Rory
Yeah. But the more I got.
Baby D
Got.
Rory
The more details I got from that entire thing. And I know he didn't drive 30 hours. I'm just referencing the Kanye.
I'm not saying I would have done the same thing, but I understand you in my house with my kids. Yeah. I'm killing it.
Baby D
Yeah. Nobody.
Rory
I was on Matt's side in that.
Baby D
Once I heard more, I was like, nobody felt like. Nobody feel like Matt was wrong for that?
Rory
Hell, no.
Baby D
Not at all.
Rory
No. Because initially it came out like, it was just cheat. Like, no, you in my house with my kids. What the. Yeah, but I mean, speaking of Kanye, can. Kim K. Says Kanye thought she faked her Paris robbery. Kim, I hate to say it. We all thought that.
Mall
Everybody thought that. Not every. I never thought that.
Rory
But it's crazy that your husband ran off stage in San Francisco and tried to get to Paris in a few hours. But, yeah, we all kind of thought that.
Baby D
Why did people think that?
Mall
I thought that was so stupid that people thought that.
Baby D
Why would. I just. Don't.
Mall
Wow.
Baby D
Okay.
Josh
What would.
Baby D
What would Kim Kardashian, first of all, why would she do that? And what would she gain out of faking a robbery?
Rory
You need to read more books on propaganda.
Baby D
No, I don't. You need to stop reading books on propaganda.
Rory
Listen, I'm. Well read.
Baby D
What does Kim K. Have to gain from something like that?
Kim K. Don't want sympathy from. No, she strikes you as somebody that wants sympathy. I've never looked at Kim and thought she wanted sympathy.
Rory
And I'm not saying Kim faked the robbery. I think he got arrested.
Mall
Well, niggas have been locked up.
Rory
Yeah, I'm not.
Baby D
We know that it's real. I'm saying, why did people even think that it was.
Rory
Because celebrities set up spectacles to keep their name in the press. Celebrities, period. I'm not.
Baby D
Give me an example.
Rory
Hollywood, Jussie Smollett.
Baby D
Okay, you have Jussie Smulay.
Rory
He wears hats like.
Baby D
You have Kim Kardashian. What would Kim have to gain from doing something like that?
Mall
People just don't like her.
Baby D
And people don't like admitting that's a. Those people thing, though. Don't put that on Kim because you don't like her. So you think she would stage a robbery.
Rory
Like.
Baby D
Like, that's just stupid.
Rory
I mean, she leaked her sex tape. I don't know.
Mall
I thought, okay, leaking your sex tape. Like, when you're, like, younger and being a fully grown woman.
Baby D
When you have something to gain.
Mall
Whole life. When you have something to gain.
Baby D
When you have something to gain.
Rory
I'm not here to. On Kim. I'm just saying that celebrities set up situations to be in the press. Like, that's.
Baby D
Show me a robbery like that. Like that. A celebrity.
Rory
I don't think she set this up.
It's not crazy to think.
Baby D
I'm saying the people that even believed it, that even thought it was fake.
Mall
I think it is crazy to think when it's the first thought that you have. And I think that that comes with the way that we treat celebrities or treat public figures when people strip their humanity away. Why is that the first thing that went. She just want attention. That is so inhumane to think when you hear somebody got fucking tied up. Somebody's a fucking mother and wife and sister got tied up. And the first thing people thought was, oh, she just faked that for attention.
Baby D
She. That is fucking crazy.
Rory
You don't think we're conditioned as Americans to feel that way in general, we got. This is not a conspiracy theory. We got into Vietnam based off a fake attack. Bay of Pigs.
Baby D
It.
Rory
Yeah, everything is fucking fake. We think celebrities are above that shit.
Mall
No, it's not that you think somebody is above it. It's. Why is people. Why are people, especially public figures, always automatically guilty until they're proven innocent and not the other way around? That shouldn't have been the first thought. It should have been if something looked fishy. And then it's like, wait, hold on. Like with just. With Juicy, for example, some shit looked fishy. And then people started saying, ah, this is fishy. With Kim, there was nothing that looked fishy other than people were like, don't you have too much security for that? There was nothing that looked fishy.
Rory
It was just 70 years old. How did he grapple down into her window? Yeah, it's fishy.
Mall
You didn't. People assume that before. People even. That came out years later.
Rory
Yeah, listen, I don't think Kim K. Set up a robbery. I really don't do. I think Kim K. Has probably set up situations with TMZ in the press? Of course, that's part of her job. She has a reality TV show. Not mad at that even.
Baby D
That's funny that people think that Kim would have to call Kim.
Mall
They did. They did used to call TMZ on themselves. Like, that's a known thing.
Baby D
But when they was. When they were, like, trying to build their brand.
Mall
I'm talking about recently, but even now.
Rory
She gets sneeze in people's show.
Baby D
That's what I'm saying.
Mall
No, but if they don't. If you want a particular. If you want a specific, like, shot or of you and a specific outfit, or you're wearing a designer that's you being paid for. That happens. Celebrity, they call people to let them know where you are. People aren't just automatically gonna know where you are at some point. Cause that's not even good for your safety. So sometimes it's like, all right, well, let me know. Let these niggas know where I am so that I Can get these shots off in these fucking Balenciaga boots. Because I have a partnership with Balenciaga that happens with all celebrities. That's not just the fucking Kardashians. But something like this. I don't know. I just. I don't like to automatically assume that people with money or people who are popular are evil. Proven otherwise. I think that that's weird to me personally.
Rory
I mean. But at least Kanye put on a better show. Like, somebody whispered in his ear during the show, and he was like, I have to go, and then ran off stage. Like, that's why I think people thought it was so. Like, even when George Bush was told a second tower was hit, he just sat there and kept reading cat in the hat. Like, Kanye. Literally, somebody whispered in his ear during a Kanye west show, and then he's like, I have to. I have to leave, and ran away, which any husband would do. But I think that's why the people just thought, this looks fishy. And again, I don't think it is. I think Kim Kardashian was actually robbed.
Baby D
People are fish.
Rory
But it felt like a spectacle. Because who could even interrupt a Kanye.
Mall
West show if you have information about his wife?
Rory
I know, but who. Who is even Kanye is stopping a show to let someone whisper in his ear?
Mall
If. If the. If it's. If you recognize how important. If you. If everybody knows Kanye west and Kanye sees somebody coming to him and he. How he fired people, how he is. He know must be really important. If you interrupted my show. This must be really important.
Baby D
And it was.
Rory
Again, I think it's true.
Baby D
I just.
Rory
I understand why people is just like, all right, yeah, that's. That's odd.
Baby D
People just don't like him.
Mall
K. And that is. And that's fine. But people need to admit that that's what.
Rory
That.
Baby D
Yeah, that's my part.
Rory
Just.
Baby D
Just say you don't like Kim K.
Rory
You think more people hate Kim K. Or like her.
Mall
Hate. I think even a lot of people that love her, hate her.
Rory
Yeah. Explain that. What do you mean?
Mall
Because first of all, I think to hate somebody, you have to love them anyway. To really hate someone, you have to love them. Anyone. But anyway. But I think.
Rory
Let's not use extremes. I love and hate. There's like or dislike.
Mall
Okay. I think more people dislike her than they like her.
Rory
I mean, I guess that shows the value of dislike.
Baby D
Yeah, dislike me. Yeah. Skim sold out like a motherfucker.
Rory
People will slow down for the car crash.
Baby D
Yeah, dislike me.
Rory
But I. I don't know I. I do think more people like her. I really do.
Baby D
No people like Kim K. But people. It is a lot of people that anytime she opens her mouth, she says something, no matter what it is. People, you know, find something to say about, you know, her intentions or what she's doing or what she's trying to sell. And this kind of third, it just.
Mall
She's done some unlike some dislikable shit like, like that's not, you know what I'm saying.
Baby D
We are.
Rory
But she's hammering her 24 hours out of the day. You're gonna find some shit that's dislikable.
Baby D
That's human nature. We all, we. You all do people.
Rory
Yeah.
I guess. I mean, I just. And I'm not saying she her way to the top at all, because I think she's a great.
Baby D
No, that's exactly.
Rory
I've actually said it.
Baby D
You wouldn't have said it if that's what.
Rory
No, I think most people, Nobody here thought that most people would say that about her. As well as what most people do.
Mall
Say people call Kim. Even when people call Kim all types of. I'll be looking at them like, I don't think that Kim is a. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like y'.
Baby D
All. You know what's crazy about that?
Rory
Let me finish my point in that of saying I'm not one of those people that think she her way to the top. I think she's actually a pretty good, good businesswoman. I'm saying people that think that way, most people their way to the bottom. So if you think she her way to the top, she did a great job.
Mall
Complimentary.
Rory
Cuz most people their way to the bottom.
Baby D
But why I never even subscribed to that is because that sex tape wasn't like that. Like, that sex tape ain't gonna get you all of that that she had. Now she's a clown.
Rory
I can't give you. Who's that guy that reviews the porn shit. We shouted him out a bunch of times. He reviewed the Kim K shit and gave it like a zero out of zero.
Baby D
That shit was not like, I get.
Rory
It, but vacation with your girl. Like, I'm sure every sex tape in your phone isn't like the greatest because.
Baby D
But that's what I'm saying when people say she, it's like, what do you mean she the way to the top? Like, if she's different guys, she's dated different guys. Like, so she, she married Kanye, had kids. That was her way of getting to the top. Like I think that she had her own thing going before that. Like before she even got with.
Rory
No, I, No, I understand she carried Paris's purses and all that. I think what she did was great. But why people would say that is after the Ray J thing somehow when Reggie Bush got a ring at the super bowl, we heard from Kim Kardashian and not Reggie Bush. He like she got the microphone at the super bowl.
Mall
And that's my. That's.
Rory
That's. So that's why people would think that.
Mall
Chris Jenner and y' all gonna put.
Rory
Some greatest manager of all time.
Mall
You gotta put some respect on my bitch name. But at the end of the day, if you're gonna accredit Kim's success to anything, it should be Kris Jenner. It should not be that whack ass sex tape. It's mad people with whack ass sex tapes out here and they are not famous.
Baby D
It's some with some good sex tapes that ain't got SK.
They not slinking SKIMs like dope in the 80s, I'll tell you that. So.
Mall
And also, I don't like when like, even when people do the same thing with the slut shaming of celebrities just because you know who they're dating and some of them. Y' all don't even know if they slept with them people or not. But just because they have pictures with people and you know somewhat who they've dated, now they're whores. And I'm like, just because your ledger ain't on the ain't on E online don't mean that they're a. Just because you know. Oh, I know she slept with this person. This person. This person. Yeah. She's rich and famous and she fucks other rich and famous people. You the in the Honda with two hubcap missing. We don't know that you him. So you think that you less of a than she is. I just, I don't. I don't.
Rory
You know how many families from Glendale, California have seven daughters that celebrities and will never hear from them and they'll never do anything with their life? Pretty much the entire community. Yeah, like where, where do we place the Kardashian Jenner.
Name to the Kennedys, the Bushes, the Clown? I'm. I'm really not doing a bit or making a joke. Seriously, where do you put their empire between former Bruce Jenner of being one of the greatest Olympians ever with the Jenners to the Kardashians tied into the OJ Shit? Where do you put that name to the Kennedys because it's right fucking there.
Baby D
It's pretty close.
Mall
And then the Kardashians survived.
Baby D
It's pretty close.
Rory
How do you. How do we watch us. Sorry, how do we watch a 16, 14 year old Kylie Jenner on reality TV become one of the first billionaires in makeup in real time?
Baby D
It's crazy. They right there.
Rory
Because I've seen a lot of Kennedys piss away their inheritance.
Baby D
The Kardashians might be bigger than the Kennedys, though.
Rory
I mean, that's crazy.
Baby D
They might be though. I'm just saying I want to see that versus. Let's do. I'll tune in for the Kardashians versus the Kidding Grant.
Rory
It's the Rothschilds and like everyone else.
Baby D
But then it's.
Rory
But if we're going with the lower tier, I do think, think if the Kardashians are a mid level seed in the March Madness bracket, I think they beat a lot of the one and two tiers that we think.
Baby D
They upset the Kennedy.
Rory
They beat a lot of Dukes.
Baby D
They upset the Kennedys, man. I'm telling you.
Rory
And they all work, I'm telling you.
Mall
Like some of the. Some of the Kennedys just living off their name. All these work. Everybody got business.
Okay, well, not Rob. Well, we don't talk about.
Baby D
Yeah, Rob. Rob. He.
Mall
Rob had a sock business. Rob had a sock business.
Rory
And they were good socks.
Mall
Yeah, they were good fucking socks.
Baby D
Good socks was hilarious. What you mean they was good socks?
Mall
What was the name of his socks?
Baby D
How do you test socks?
Rory
And wait, how are we doing the verses? Is it like Tyga versus rfk?
Baby D
Nah, that's not the matchup. That's not the matchup we need. That's not the matchup we need. We don't need that matchup.
Rory
You're not doing that.
Baby D
Nah, we gotta go. Jackie O versus Chris.
Rory
Smoked. Why would you even Jack you. We gotta go at least put Marilyn Monroe against him.
Baby D
We gotta go. Nah, we gotta go Kim.
Rory
K. You gotta put J. JFK versus Chris. Nah.
Baby D
JFK versus Kim.
Mall
Nah. Chris is number one. Chris.
Baby D
Hell nah.
Mall
Chris is number one.
Rory
You tripping, man.
Baby D
Hell no.
Mall
You tripping. Chris is number one.
Baby D
Chris can't be number one.
Mall
How?
Baby D
Chris being Chris. Chris without Kim is like Harold Melville without the blue notes. You never go platinum without Kim. You know that. If Chris don't have Kim. What are we even talking about here? Kim is. Kim is the. She's the dining. She's the franchise player.
Mall
She made her the franchise player.
Baby D
Nah, she just had the system okay.
Rory
That, though, like, yeah, of course Motown's gonna be what it is because those artists are talented. But if you don't have Barry Gordy steering that ship, your talent, that never leaves Detroit. You could just sing good on seven Mile. Nah, like, if you don't have Barry Gordy doing that shit, I don't know if Motown gets to where I thought.
Baby D
I don't believe that. I think little Michael.
Rory
Stevie is Stevie.
Baby D
Little Michael was gonna be little Michael no matter who he signed with. I'm not doing that.
Rory
But we have to deal with. With the tangible.
Baby D
Kim was going to. Kim no matter what, bro. She's a star. No matter what. She was gonna be who she is.
Rory
Michael. Now, Michael could have been selling drugs with Freddie Gibbs. If he doesn't meet Barry Gordy, we don't know if he gets out of Gary.
Baby D
Nah, that's not. I'm not.
Rory
I don't believe that they don't meet Barry Gordy. Joe Jackson is just another abusive father with traumatic kids that are going to continue that to their kids and their kids and their kids. He's just a drunk Irish father at that.
Baby D
Little Michael was gonna make it no matter what. Little Michael was gonna get out of Gary, Indiana, like you. I don't care who signed him. Somebody would have found that family and found that those. Those boys and said, we have to sign them.
Mall
Jackson 5. Don't become the Jackson 5 without Joe. Jackson.
Rory
5 is all tier one draft picks. You got one draft pick from the Jackson 5.
Mall
5.
Rory
There's no Tito's in the. In the Kardashian family.
Mall
Said the Jackson 5. Okay. Because I was about to jump across the table.
Rory
Oh, no.
Mall
All right, cool.
Rory
No, Janet is. Janet's Chloe. Okay, I was just trying to piss you off. And don't do that, because Chloe's done a lot. All right? She's Kylie billionaire. Don't take away from Kylie.
Josh
Okay, I'll.
Mall
I'll ride with Kylie.
Baby D
Yeah.
Rory
She's a little sister that saw her. Her family get rich and then followed suit and was right there. Yeah. I think Kylie and Janet have a lot in common.
Baby D
You think Kylie Jenner and Janet Jackson have a lot in common?
Rory
I couldn't even get it out of my mouth.
Baby D
Get the out.
Rory
She watched her siblings. She watched her siblings prosper and saw the pitfalls and the successes and then took the yellow brick road and became an icon.
Baby D
And then y' all got Kendall. Just.
Rory
What?
Baby D
I'm just saying, like, you know, the Kardashian. I gotta put some more respect on the Kardashians and agendas.
Rory
I just put them over the Jackson 5. I don't know.
Baby D
I thought the Kennedys and you like. Nah, like, they bigger than the Kennedy.
Rory
I'm saying the Kennedys. You guys brought up Jackson 5. I'm talking about royalty. Put them up against Prince Harry.
Mall
Smoke Show. Smoke show. They inherited everything.
Rory
O.J. simpson, Princess Diana, or. Who's Nicole Simpson? Princess Diana.
Mall
That's not even.
Rory
Both dead.
Hear me out. Rest in peace to both people. They both died in horrific ways. I'm just saying blonde white women. If we're doing the verses, I think that's a good. Who had more impact in the world. I understand that Princess Diana had, like, charities and stuff, but I do feel like Nicole Simpson is more famous.
Baby D
Get the out of here, man. What are you talking about, bro? The. Are you. What are you drunk? What are you talking about right now? I would love to see that version, though. The Kardashians versus the Kennedys. Let's make it happen.
Rory
Let's make it. How do we make that happen?
Baby D
I know.
Peach
We could just.
Baby D
We could do it ourselves.
Rory
Just Swizz and Tim do that.
Baby D
Yeah, we could know. We could do that. We could do that ourselves.
Rory
Don't worry about it, Damaris. I will say, though, Joseph Kennedy may be maybe Kris Jenner.
No, Joseph Kennedy was a bootlegger. Just a poor Irish fuck and somehow took bootlegging alcohol and created the Kennedy. The Kennedy dynasty that does exist. Him and Kris Jenner actually have a lot in common. Like, he was really just a street guy and then somehow got his. His son to be president because the mob was faking votes in Illinois. Like he is. Kris Jenner is the epitome of Joseph Kennedy. Like, if you go through the lineage, it's Chris and Joe.
Mall
Yeah.
Baby D
At that point, you hear Damaris for sure. Sure.
It's not for sure.
Mall
When Rory get on his.
Rory
You.
Mall
You gotta let him.
See.
Rory
Y' all ignore me the same way y' all did with Eminem and Big Pun. If you start thinking about it, it makes sense. Joseph Kennedy is the Kris Jenner of the Kennedy dynasty.
Baby D
Okay.
Rory
He was nobody.
Baby D
No. Well, Chris was somebody, though. Do you know the history of Christianity? Do you know, like, I mean, she.
Rory
Ended up getting Bruce Jenner, who was the. One of the greatest athletes, but, yeah, she was married to a lawyer in California. What chick isn't me, unfortunately. Well, you're in New York.
You're with a Crip.
Mall
No worry now.
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Rory
Mo I feel like we should do the Put Me on segment again. We did last Monday, sponsored by Walden University. I suggested everyone check out Hales ep. I believe All Her Fault was the show. Yes. That you had said in Damaris. What was. What was your Put me on Mona Leo. Mona Leo. Okay, I still need to go back and watch All Her Fault.
Mall
Amazing. Watch the entire series in one day. I did not move from my couch for eight hours.
Rory
Oh, yeah. I didn't eat.
Mall
I didn't sleep.
Rory
All right. If Amara's in a calm mood, I'm gonna start it tonight for sure.
Mall
It was so fucking good.
Rory
Good.
Mall
That is such a good. I haven't watched a good show that had me, like, sad. And also I'm one of them annoying people that like, 30 minutes into the show, I'm like, oh, she did it. He did it. He helped her. Like, I'm one of those people that can always predict the end. Nothing could have prepared me for the ending of that show. Last episode, last two episodes, I was like, what the.
Rory
Well, don't get away. But you had the same reaction that she did.
Baby D
It's one of the best shows on TV in a while.
Mall
Yes.
Rory
Oh, all right. Yeah. Well, then I apologize for the Put Me on segment. You guys put me on and I didn't follow.
Baby D
You don't want to get put on. That's your problem. Put me on Big L. That's your problem.
Rory
Trying to put Big L. And Walden University is supposed to put us on.
Baby D
Yes.
Rory
All right. So for this week, I want to go with my guy, Isaiah Falls. Put out an ep. Lucky you has Alex Isley on it. Joyce Rice, Chase Shakur. Like, it's, it's a really, really good ep. 15 minutes.
Baby D
Isaiah got one of those songs, like, big songs on TikTok, too.
Rory
It's butterflies.
Mall
Yeah.
Rory
So Butterflies is, is on the cpa.
Baby D
It better be. Yeah, it better be. That might be number one on TikTok. Better be.
Rory
That record. And that video is incredible, too. Yeah, I, I, I love both of them, but Isaiah Falls. To me, he's hate to be that he's going to be one of them type of guys, but what Isaiah's been doing in 2025, I think 2026 is going to be a very big year for Isaiah. Isaiah, kind of the way like, we watched Leon put in the work for two, three years, and then when Mutt hit was like, finally his time. I think Isaiah is going to be on that same trajectory. Like, he's super talented. Anytime I send him anything, he's like, yo, can you send me the stem so I can reproduce everything? Like, he's one of them. He can play every instrument. Like, he's, he's not just somebody that, that's singing and writing. Like, he, he's in the weeds with everything the same way Leon is. And I don't mean to compare two artists. They're dope in their own right. But I see a lot of the qualities that Leon has in Isaiah in that regard. Like, you're not just. You didn't just catch one. Like, you know what the you're doing here.
Baby D
Yeah.
Rory
So I'm excited to see his, his career in 2026. But the lucky EP is fire. So shout out to Isaiah Falls.
Baby D
I'm gonna put y' all on to Sailor. Y'.
Peach
All.
Baby D
Y' all with Sailor, of course. She just put out her deluxe on the.
Mall
From.
Baby D
From Florida's finest. The Deluxe. Like, you, too, Rory. I feel like 2026 is going to be big for Sailor.
Rory
Yeah, no, she's fire.
Baby D
She's on Summer's album on the Houseway Record. She has a record on the Deluxe with Summer Pookies Requiem. Damaris. You know about Sailor?
Mall
Yeah.
Baby D
You on to her.
Mall
I haven't been the biggest fan. I. But I haven't dived into her catalog. I've just heard her.
Baby D
Yeah, check out, check out the deluxe. You just. I think, I think Sailor's dope. I think she's going to have a really good 2026. I see her getting into that space with Mariah. You know, those girls. Like, I see her breaking into that mold and, and having a great 2026. So shout out to Sailor. Shout out to Boo. She signed to Boo. Yeah, so she's dope. I like Sailor.
Rory
I believe. And. And correct me if I'm wrong, didn't Pimmy, who signed to. To ovo, that was on Sexy Songs for you, didn't she just put something out? I think this past weekend I saw. I saw somebody post a snippet. I don't know if it came out or not, but I. I'm excited to see what they do with her.
Baby D
She did.
Mall
When some sexy songs for you first came out, if you listen to the album all the way to its completion, the next song that Apple Music would play was a Pimmy song. And even that song, I was like, oh, like that made me be like.
Okay, I'm excited for whatever she climbed up.
Rory
All right, so I'm looking now at her Apple Music page. It must have just been a snippet that somebody was putting out. So I hope that means music is coming, cuz I. She stood out on that album like you would not believe in 3am Things is fire. But I was about to ask her. I didn't know what the deal is with her, but I need an ep like ASAP from Pimmy.
Baby D
She's dope.
Rory
So on you.
Mall
I think y' all should check out vlogs. Who vlog? It's not a artist. You don't. I think you. I think y' all should check out vlogs. I think vlogging is like something that y' all should start doing along with. I think vlogging will be easier for you guys because it doesn't require as much as streaming. Streaming is like somebody turning you on like a tv and you gotta be on like without any commercial breaks. And vlogs are able to be edited. And I think that you guys personalities would shine through in them.
Rory
I mean, if you go on our Patreon, like every tour that we did, each city has like its own vlog.
Mall
That's. That's just an extension of the podcast. I'm talking about you guys living your lives.
Rory
Okay, all right, let me ask you then this good conversation. I go from here to home.
So. So I should have a camera person in my. I'm not saying they. You can't vlog in your house because of course people do that. But like, should I set up the camera and live your life? People watch that.
Mall
That's my favorite. That's what I. The reason why I brought that to you is because yesterday I realized I was cleaning my house and the entirety of the six Hours. I was cleaning my house. I was watching people clean their house the entire time.
Rory
Oh, no. Yeah. I watch very stupid vlogs all the time.
Mall
Yeah.
Rory
Like, I can't believe I clean.
Mall
Like, watch it.
Rory
20 minutes of this entire thing.
Baby D
Mental illness is going crazy, man.
Mall
Why do you think that that's mental illness?
Baby D
Watching people clean their house with music.
Mall
With cute music in the background. Yeah, you don't, but you don't. So with me personally, I can't sit and watch anything. I'll watch something while I'm moving around, but I think it's. I think it's another form of body doubling. It's the same reason why people call people on FaceTime when they're trying to clean their house. It's body doubling.
Rory
Yeah.
Mall
So body double. So body doubling is a big term that ADHD people use where it's. For example, somebody with neurodivergence might have a problem cleaning their house if it's just them sitting there. But if somebody says they're on their way over, they'll get more cleaning done in 15 minutes than they have the entire time.
Rory
I'm mopping the floor.
Baby D
They don't want to get embarrassed. Like, this house dirty.
Mall
Or also, when.
When somebody is at my house, I automatically. Outside of, like, wanting it to be clean, I start doing more shit when someone's around me. And it's not just for accountability reasons. It's like, I don't. It's just harder to explain. Like, I work better when somebody is sitting next to me. If I'm alone, I might not do it.
Rory
Yeah, no, I hear that. I totally understand that.
Mall
So that's another reason why, like I said, I FaceTime people when I want to get something done. Like, I could be sitting on a couch. My sister FaceTime me, and I'm like, oh, I was supposed to cook. I'll get up and be cooking while I'm on the phone. Like, that's body doubling. So, damn.
Baby D
I'm the exact opposite. I can't do nothing if somebody. Nobody's in my space cleaning. No, you have to. Everybody has to be gone.
Mall
Really?
Baby D
Cause then you in my way. It's like I'm trying to vacuum. You gotta get up, move. Gotta dust this off, Windex this. You just put a cup back down there. It's like alone to me. Like, when there's nobody in your way, you could just go through every room and clean. That's the best time. Now I can't. I need music. For sure. I gotta be playing music while I'm Clean. It can't be quiet while I'm cleaning. But having people in my. Nah, I can't clean with nobody in the space.
Rory
Listen, if, if it's a. Not a zoom call or anything I need to be on video with. Even with business calls, I'll start folding laundry.
Mall
Yep.
Rory
Still fully aware of the entire conversation. But I'm going to be doing something while I'm on the phone. There's no way I'm just going to be on the phone. That's probably why I have an AirPod addiction.
Mall
Like, that's why I, I, I like, prefer FaceTime over radio. Regular audio calls. Because I tell people if you call me audio, I'm going to be on my phone.
Baby D
Scroll.
Mall
Like, while we're on the phone, I need to look at you so that I can get off my phone. Cause otherwise I'll be scrolling, not listening to you the whole fucking time.
Rory
That's why I tell people not to FaceTime me. Because if we're gonna stay on the phone for an hour, I'm gonna be doing shit.
Mall
Yeah.
Baby D
Well, that's why I have two different phones. One for social media, one for, like, actual phone calls. Cause I'm the same. I would be scrolling. But when you have two different phones, like, once that phone dies, I don't even charge that shit in the house. Like, I purposely let it die. And just. Because it just pulls too much of your attention because it's a. Even if you don't want to look at something, you just addicted to scrolling and opening apps and things like that. Like, separate that. Separate the two.
Rory
Yeah. Yeah. I've actually talked to people that have to do therapy on their phone because if they do it on their laptop, they'll want to grab their phone.
Baby D
That's crazy.
Rory
And I'm like, damn, it's an addiction.
Mall
It's bad.
Baby D
So you think you. So you're putting us on to vlogging.
Mall
I'm putting on to vlogging and watching vlogs. Like, as y' all know, I vlog. Vlog.
Rory
Can you give us, like, one or two suggestions of vlogs you think we'd like? Because I watch people clean rugs. I don't know if that's a vlog, but that's.
Mall
I like the. I like the rug cleaning.
Rory
The rug cleaning? Yeah, the power washing. Like, it's. I don't know. It's satisfying. It really is, though. No, I'm. I'm stupid.
Baby D
You're gay. It's okay.
Rory
I like being queen is gay. I'm the gayest.
Baby D
That's definitely a form of gay.
Rory
Him being clean.
Baby D
Yeah, you know that you paint your nails?
Rory
What do you. Yeah, you gay.
Baby D
I'm clean, too. I clean too.
Rory
You think? Say you gay, too. Say you gay, too.
Baby D
No, I'm not saying.
Mall
Say you gay, too. It's funny as how you forcing him out. That's crazy.
Rory
As he forced me out at the beginning of the episode. That's not how I wanted to do it.
Baby D
I was just helping you. It's called help.
Rory
I revealed a child on the first album. I want to reveal my sexuality on the second.
Baby D
There you go.
Rory
Let. Let me pace myself.
Baby D
No, listen, at your. At your pace, my brother. Do whatever you want to do.
Rory
Would you judge me if I pretended to be gay for my album?
Baby D
Yes.
Mall
Having a baby as the rollout for the first one and the second one coming out as gay. Like, you did it backwards.
Rory
Well, that was funny when people said, like, I. I use my, like, child as it was like that. It's the same time. I didn't. I didn't time it that way.
Baby D
No, you did, though.
Mall
Yeah. The moment, like, the stems had, like, finished up, you started nutting her.
Rory
First of all, it's hilarious. I didn't want to acknowledge it, but it was extremely funny. So I just have to sit here.
I like this mix. You know what? It's time.
Baby D
Yeah, it's time. It's time. Now give me the stem.
Rory
Yeah, so now, I mean, now I have to nut in him.
Mall
Yo.
Baby D
Jesus Christ.
That's what it is.
Rory
It's a vibration.
Baby D
It's the lava lamp. It's that gay ass.
Rory
No, it's called a rollout. Do you guys not understand the music industry?
Baby D
No, no, no, I understand the music industry. It's lava. Who you think it is?
Rory
It's lava. You think it's lava in there?
Baby D
Think they bottle up lava baby. They just burnt their hand. Look. Yes, it's lava, baby.
Rory
Ad.
Baby D
It's supposed to be hot.
Mall
Oh, my God.
Rory
You don't think it's crazy? People live by, like, volcanoes and see it happen and go, yeah, we should stay here.
Mall
Yeah.
Baby D
I mean, because they're not active.
Rory
I don't think that's insane.
Baby D
They haven't erupted in.
Rory
If it happened one time, I don't care if that was another 100 years. It happened one time.
Baby D
We're not.
Rory
We're not living here.
Mall
So you're telling me when you nut it early that one time, you don't. You just think that one time from you.
Rory
You said that one time.
Mall
My little lava lamp.
Baby D
You are lava lamp.
You are lava lamp.
Mall
Little premature chapter.
Rory
I appreciate you saying it happened one time.
Mall
Well, we're gonna put check out everything that we've put each other onto next time. Y' all need to come prepared with the artist that I told y' all to listen to.
My last episode. I told y' all to check out Mona Leo. Y' all had no feedback because y' all didn't check her out.
Rory
That is true. So I apologize.
Baby D
She just had a show out here, right?
Mall
Yes, I know. I'm so upset I missed it.
Baby D
I saw. I saw that on. On Instagram. I think somebody show that I follow.
Mall
She bought.
Baby D
I said Baby D just was talking about. Talking about her.
Rory
Well, I. I apologize to Walton University that I did not check out. Both of you put me.
Baby D
You didn't do your homework.
Rory
I didn't.
Baby D
That's why you going to get flunked. You're going to fail.
Rory
Wait, how? I type in vlog on YouTube and somebody with only 21k, which I'm not saying is low views, but 21k, you just type in the word vlog, and that pops up. Oh, yeah. We need to vlog. It's at the top of the algorithm.
Mall
The person I watch who vlogs, she gets, like, maybe, like, 100k views in, like, five days. Shout out to Aaliyah Face. Yeah.
Rory
All these people.
Baby D
She looks like Aaliyah.
Mall
Huh?
Baby D
She looks like Aaliyah.
Mall
No, her name is. And it's her face.
Rory
No, this is. Who popped up first. Aaliyah.
Mall
Oh. Because I used to use y' all account to watch her video.
Rory
I was like, why is just this person showing up with, like, lower. Like, not low views at all, but. But, like, I just. I expected something with a billion views to pop up when you type in blog.
Mall
I mean, but vlogs can be that. Vloggers can be that big. Like. But yeah, it's all different niches. You guys gotta find your niche. I like lifestyle content and stuff like that. That's why my vlogs are that.
Baby D
And I watch other people's vlogs, so I gotta, like. So you want me to walk around with, like, a tripod and set it up and then walk out the store, then walk back?
Mall
So you've seen me vlog. I vlog here all the time. Do you see me walking around with a fucking tripod? Yeah, Yeah, I walk around.
Baby D
I've got off the elevator a few times and almost tripped over your tripod.
Rory
So now it's not wrong because that is your. Your setup is right by the elevator.
Baby D
So now what?
Mall
The majority of the time, I am vlogging. I am holding my dji osmo, which is a tripod. That's not a tripod. It's a camera.
Baby D
It's a bipod.
Mall
No, this is a bipod.
Baby D
Because you're on it. Yeah, because you're on it. Absolutely.
Because you're on it.
Rory
We're also. We're also both clean.
Baby D
What is that? Oh, well, yeah. Yeah, I am clean. If being dirty is heterosexual, I'm just not heterosexual.
Rory
Do we have voicemails?
Mall
Yeah, we do. We got a voicemail.
Baby D
You've got mail.
Rory
Voicemail sponsored by Boost Mobile. Let's see what we have today.
Mall
Hey, it's Maddie.
Rory
I hope everyone's doing well.
Baby D
Why do I not voice?
Mall
Unfortunately, I forgot to inform you that seem to no longer be using mixtapes or playlists to woo their crushes or people they would like to date. And this was super sad for me because I used to love crafting mixtapes. In this case, a burnt cd. That's how old I am. To show someone that I was interested in them and also share my musical tastes because I love music, and I was hoping to bond with someone that has a similar love of music. I was wondering if y' all have any hot takes or strongly held opinions about the anatomy of that playlist or mixtape tape. Like, are there certain songs that should go in certain places? Are there certain artists you should avoid? Can a side chick get a playlist? You know, stuff like that. Looking forward to the conversation.
Rory
Have a great one.
Mall
Bye. Hi, Maddie. Shout out to you. I never dedicate another song to another nigga ever again. You dedicate a song to a nigga, you send it to him. That's y' all shit. Now every single time you hear the motherfucking song, you want to take the AirPods out your ear, shit on them, and throw them at them. Like, no.
Rory
Well, tell me about the time you.
Mall
Dedicated a song that's just throughout, like, life. Like, you have certain songs that remind you of.
Rory
I used to make mixtapes for girls.
Baby D
Yeah, you used to make mixtapes for guys.
Mall
I used to have, like, little. Little playlists. Like, I used to have playlists. I used to put, like, as their apartment number. That used to be the name of the playlist.
Put a name.
Rory
Wait, but how did you send the. The apartment at that time there? You could send.
Mall
She's talking about still to this day. Day back. She's talking about to this day.
Rory
But I've Burnt the.
Mall
A CD before for sure. And kissed.
Rory
Burning is burning a CD for a side chick to me is crazy. Sending a playlist to a side chick. Whatever.
Baby D
But you ain't hear Baby D, though.
Rory
No, I. I tried to.
Baby D
She made the CD and she kissed it.
Rory
I think that's a nice spray with.
Baby D
Perfume on the CD now. It don't work now.
Rory
Yeah, now it skips. Now you have to. Now you have to use the headphones across the Walkman just so it works.
Baby D
She's spraying the cd. I don't need all of that.
Rory
I will say if a chick, like, kissed a burnt CD with her lipstick, I. I would find that extremely attractive. That that would turn me out. She could do whatever.
Baby D
Okay. It is what it is.
Rory
Lipstick kiss on there instead of a Sharpie. You don't think that's fire?
Baby D
This is a cool touch.
Rory
Yeah.
Baby D
Not mad at that.
Mall
Shout out to that gentleman Rip. But how. Okay, so y' all don't.
Baby D
That was. The kiss of death happened. He passed.
Mall
I can't laugh.
Rory
That was hilarious.
Mall
That's not. That's.
Baby D
She said rip. I wasn't expecting it to go there. Like, what?
Rory
Damn.
Mall
Well, the gentleman is.
Baby D
He's deceased. He's no longer with us.
Mall
He's no longer with us.
Rory
But that was the kiss.
Baby D
She gave him a CD with her lips on, and then he passed.
Mall
He didn't pass immediately after Mom.
Baby D
Oh, okay. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. My.
Rory
Was Jada on the mixtape?
Baby D
Yeah. So I don't think. Think that, you know, you can make a playlist, but I don't know, man. It's weird when you make playlists with people that y' all don't speak no more. Now she in the car playing your playlist with a new dude. Like, don't send him my vibes. Don't put him on what I'm putting you on to. Don't do that.
Mall
Done that, too.
Rory
But you guys killed me maybe like, two years ago on this podcast when I was saying, don't go to the restaurants I put you on to. Don't listen to music I put you on to. Like, none of that can happen. The way I molded your taste. You can't continue on on in life having that taste.
Mall
Nana Boo Boo. He feeding me your favorite finger foods.
Rory
Like, all the. All the lingo you took.
Baby D
Feeding me your favorite finger food.
How you know my favorite finger food? He feeding me. Ordering the last dude's favorite finger foods and making new dude feed them to you. It's like yo, you got way too.
Rory
Much, D. I would feel away, though, if I saw my ex, Queen, getting fed a mozzarella stick while listening to my playlist.
Mall
Nah, because if you.
Rory
At the restaurant, I put her on to.
Mall
Because if you eat a mozzarella stick right now, you gonna think of me. So you feeding this on mozzarella stick.
Baby D
I know you feed.
Rory
We all do. Because you ate 48 of them on stage.
Baby D
So anytime I have seen mozzarella sticks without thinking about the marriage, I just. It's impossible.
Mall
Exactly. Same with my ex. So, like, now, if you feed a mozzarella stick. I know you being funny, baby.
Baby D
D, you were supposed to lean into that and make mozzarella sticks from scratch. Like, make your own branches.
Rory
Brand. Make your own brand.
Baby D
Your bag was right there for you, baby. These mozzarella sticks. Mozzarella sticks.
Mall
The mozzarella. Shut the.
Baby D
The mozzarella sticks.
Mall
He's annoying.
Baby D
The mozzarella sticks.
The mozzarella.
Rory
What was on some of your. Your early mixtapes for girls?
Baby D
112, for sure.
Rory
Definitely a lot of Al.
Baby D
Yeah. Boys to men. 112 popping by Chris Jagged Edge.
Rory
Amanda Perez ain't, I think my intro. I was out the gate with Amanda Perez.
Mall
Flatline. Trey songs. I used to go. I used to be one of them. I was like one of them fake music snaps.
Rory
So I would Trey songs burnt on a CD. Oh, yeah. I guess Trey Day was what, 2005? 4.
Mall
I used to use the rare song. Like, rare. Y' all remember? You know, we used to look up.
Baby D
Rare Rare at the Deep cuts.
Mall
Yep. On YouTube.
Baby D
Rare songs.
Rory
First of all, don't do that, because on Kaza, whatever it was called, it'd be like Rare Jay Z H to the izzo. They would put Rare on.
Baby D
That was the single.
Rory
And then it'd be President Clinton's voice. See, that's too much of a throwback for y'.
Mall
All.
Baby D
Yeah.
Mall
Faith Evans. I used to put Faith Evans on CDs, too.
Baby D
Happy birthday, Nicki Minaj. I didn't know it was Nicki's birthday today. Happy birthday to the queen. Nicki Minaj. What?
Rory
I just laughed at. Josh. Put that on the docket. No, absolutely. Did you send her a gift?
Baby D
No, but I would, though, if I had her.
Rory
She's married, Melanie.
Baby D
I can't send a gift. This might.
Rory
I feel like I got a problem.
Mall
Somebody sending your wife a birthday?
Rory
Yep.
Baby D
Brokey, if you can't afford. I know. Hold on, hold on. You gotta. You gotta refrain because Rory just jumped out.
Rory
You think Nicki Minaj's husband is broke.
Mall
No, I didn't. I said you, you, you.
Baby D
Okay.
I think that if your wife is a. Is a legend like Nicki Minaj, I think you should expect that people are going to send her gift.
Mall
She probably has a brand, PR Everywhere.
Rory
All right, if. If Kanye sends her something, whatever, but, like, no, like M Mall. Why you sending my girl a gift?
Mall
Cuz he's a supporter.
Baby D
Cuz I love Nikki.
Rory
Oh, yeah.
Mall
Why you bringing up old Peace?
Baby D
Yo, Remember when he said that. Yeah, Remember when Rory said that? That you let your girl go to a guy's house and cook for him?
Rory
No, it was the opposite. It was a guy came to her.
Mall
House and cooked for.
Rory
Cooked, which was her friends. Yeah, see, you got. Look at you guys trying to. Oh, that's on my jacket. No, I'm not letting my girl go to some guy's house to cook for. Oh, but you let her male friend.
Baby D
Went to his house after. Her house.
Rory
Yeah, after Amara was born, her male friend came over and cooked. I. I didn't feel no way about that at all.
Baby D
Okay, but I can't send Nikki a gift. I'm not nowhere near the house. I'm just sending.
Rory
I'm not nowhere near the house via mail.
Baby D
I'm mailing. I'm mailing. I'm mailing a flower to.
Rory
I'm not Kenny.
That is true, and I mean that in the most respectful way.
Baby D
I can't argue. Yeah, yeah, but you would let the guy come in the house and turn.
Rory
I'm not a Mac Baller.
Baby D
Turn the stove on. Turn the stove on, heat shit up.
Rory
Yeah, it takes a village.
Baby D
And then you would let him, like, help, like, taste the sauce.
Rory
Like, he would do this, and he.
Mall
Had a mar on his hip while he was doing it.
Rory
All right, see, now, come on. Why does everyone take it way too far?
Baby D
I'm just saying, they were all there. It was like they were like a family, almost like. It was like, whoa.
Mall
Ma is funny as fuck, bro.
Baby D
He's in the house cooking. You know what I mean? The baby's right there in the living.
Rory
Room, crawling around, you know, catch me if you can. When Leonardo DiCaprio looks at his mom's, like, through the window and her new family. That's me just watching.
Baby D
That's definitely you watching on the ring camera, too.
Rory
This is on the ring that I pay for.
Mall
This is jokes, because that really is not what happened.
Rory
No, of course that's not what happened.
Mall
But that is funny.
Baby D
Oh, man, that should have happened, but it's okay. I'm sorry.
Rory
That's crazy.
Baby D
I'm sorry. I said I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry, man.
Mall
I'm sorry.
Rory
You know what, Kenny? I'll help you.
Baby D
Oh, man. Jesus Christ. All right. Well, thank you, Baby D, for coming in today. We appreciate you. Thank you, Rory, for showing up. We appreciate you, of course. Thank you, Josh. Thank you, Peach. We'll talk to y' all soon. Be safe. Be blessed. I'm that nigga. He's just Ginger. Peace.
Mall
No worry about.
Mall.
Rory
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Baby D
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Rory
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Baby D
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Rory
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Peach
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Baby D
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Mall
I've known you for 1010 years. How could you make that call?
Baby D
These rich families, Concealing things seems to come naturally.
Peach
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Rory
You can't take out children and Joe Joyner. Parents can do some terrible things in moments of frustration.
Peach
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Mall
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This episode of New Rory & Mal is a quintessential mix of new stories, unfiltered laughter, and wild hot takes. The crew deep-dives into the culture and drama swirling around Art Basel in Miami, the highs and lows of the Streamer Awards, the ongoing Diddy documentary discourse, and a head-turning Matt Barnes AI extortion story. The group maintains their signature combination of playful banter and genuine insight, giving listeners a seat at the table for both the serious and the ridiculous. The latter half of the episode serves up their "Put Me On" segment, topical debates on vlogging, and a hilarious discussion about gifting playlists and mixtapes, all in the show's irreverent, conversational style.
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| Segment | Topic | Timestamp | |-------------------------------|------------------------------------------------------------|---------------| | Miami/Art Basel | Social captions & trip recaps | 03:08–04:09 | | Streamer Awards Debrief | Kai Cenat, mental health, joke fallout | 07:51–13:47 | | Diddy Doc & 50/Ja Rule Beef | Doc impact, “snitching” discourse | 18:01–24:17 | | Internet Conspiracies | Diddy/Nipsey/Lauren rumors, misinformation | 24:17–26:54 | | Matt Barnes/AI Extortion | Barnes paying AI scam, Tasha K defamation | 33:16–43:18 | | Kardashians vs. Kennedys | Pop dynasty debate, Kris vs. Kim, family power | 55:40–61:15 | | Voicemail: Playlists & Love | Anatomy of the mixtape, nostalgia, relationship etiquette | 83:40–88:10 | | "Put Me On" Segment | Music, new artists, vlogs | 69:40–74:55 |
True to the show's legacy, this episode delivers high-energy conversation, off-beat but sharp pop culture takes, and a blend of joking around and actual reflection on mental health, social dynamics, and celebrity culture. Whether listening for laughs or lowkey insight, New Rory & Mal keep it irreverent but real—a hangout for anyone fascinated by music, memes, and the ever-evolving absurdity of pop culture.