Episode 434 | Pod 97

Summary

New Rory & MAL – Episode 434 | Pod 97

Date: December 16, 2025
Podcast: New Rory & Mal (iHeartPodcasts and The Volume)

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Episode Overview

This episode of New Rory & MAL is quintessential end-of-year banter featuring hosts Rory, Mal, and Damaris. The crew recaps their weekends, dives into radio shake-ups (especially the Hot 97/Ebro in the Morning change), offers candid new music reviews (Nas & DJ Premier, Conway, 21 Savage), and debates everything from the psychology of “alone time” to hygiene horror stories. Their typical witty, irreverent style is on full display, blending cultural commentary, hot takes, confessions, and therapy-sesh-level group chats.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Holiday Season Vibes & Mental Health

(03:00 – 07:00)

• The crew shares how they're winding down the year.
  • Damaris reveals she spent the weekend in “vow of silence” mode—no talking, blackout curtains, not even opening the window to see the snow.
  • This leads to a discussion about the fatigue of “talking for a living” and the joys/guilt of being antisocial, especially when your job is very public.
  • Quote:
    • Damaris (05:47): “We talk for a living. Then I gotta talk to my family. Then I talk to my friends all day. I'm tired of talking.”
  • Rory and Mal debate whether they ever get tired of hearing themselves. Rory confesses he used to hate his voice.

2. Weekend Recap: Hip Hop Events & Karaoke

(07:41 – 15:00)

• Rory, Mal, and their crew attended the Mass Appeal “Legacy Installation” pop-up in Soho, with interviews from Ghostface Killah and surprise appearances from Conway.
  • Upcoming Ghostface interview is teased as a “bucket list convo.”
  • Post-show, they hit studio sessions with Conway: “just listen to amazing music…drink dark liquor. No pressure.”
• Rory recounts a karaoke/Birthday party with the viral “This Is Not The Occasion” TikTok theme.
  • “Adults can still have fun, man.” (12:12 – Rory)
  • Standout karaoke moments: Rory & Danielle perform Kelly Rowland/Nelly’s “Dilemma.”
  • Shoutouts to Eden (the karaoke DJ) & Hector bringing out his inner Bad Bunny.

3. Radio Shake-Up: End of ‘Ebro in the Morning’

(18:45 – 34:59; revisited again at 76:24)

• Hot 97’s “Ebro In The Morning” comes to an end.
  • Hosts praise Ebro, Rosenberg, and Laura Stylez for their run, time in the culture, and Laura’s legit contributions as a female voice in hip hop radio.
  • Debate the hostile, changing landscape for legacy radio:
    • “Radio needs to adjust and pivot.”
    • “Radio, for the most part, if you think about it, when we were growing up, they treated radio like clubs. Like, we’re changing the name every year.” (20:00 – Rory)
  • Discuss the competitive festival landscape and radio’s struggle to remain relevant as people make their own playlists.
  • Rumors about the next host, with hints about a “local, innovative” New Yorker potentially breathing new life into Hot 97.
  • Significance of the radio host’s job—how it can become a “box” limiting life experience.
  • Quote:
    • “It can box you in and keep you from growing…You have to put your personal life on the back burner when you have these positions in our culture” (33:43 – Mal)

4. New Music Reviews

(42:31 – 56:08, with further commentary at 68:22)

• Nas & DJ Premier – Joint Album:
  • Rory is a fan: “the most rapping I’ve ever heard from Nas…a TED talk.” (44:15)
  • Mal is underwhelmed by production: “Not as strong as I would have hoped…if we got this album before the Hit Boy albums, maybe I’d feel different.”
    • Drums (or lack thereof) a major sticking point: “We need more drums on here” (50:17 – Mal).
  • Both respectful of critiques: “People are allowed to have nuanced opinions about classic artists without being considered haters.”
• Conway – You Can’t Kill God with Bullets:
  • Lavish praise; both call it one of his best works.
  • Shout-out to the Justice League for production.
  • “At this point, Conway’s discography is kind of untouchable.” (52:06 – Rory)
• 21 Savage – New Project:
  • Mixed first-impressions; will revisit.
  • Internet skepticism toward the Drake feature: “Y’all are bugging. That record is fire.” (54:29 – Rory)
  • American Dream still Rory’s favorite 21 album; admits new one is a “different vibe.”
• Mini rant on the perils of sharing music opinions online: Damaris refuses to review new music after going viral for opinions, and Mal doubles down on saying what he likes.
  • “I won’t say another motherf---ing thing about a motherf---ing rapper.” (68:00 – Damaris)
  • “If I don’t like your song, I don’t like your song. Doesn’t mean I don’t like you.” (70:26 – Mal)
• Listener’s pick:
  • Charity – "Warm and Soft" (new R&B project with spoken word elements, rec Damaris).
  • Reggie – New singles (Rory’s pick, Houston R&B, featured on Rory's projects).

5. Personal Hygiene & Relatable Gross-Outs

(56:44 – 67:02)

• Marvelously comedic confessions about shower schedules, bidet depression, and “razor-thin tolerance” for hotel pillowcases and Airbnb cleanliness.
  • Anthony Hamilton’s infamous bathwater tweet is referenced and roasted.
  • Rory defends his cuddler habits and calls out dangerous hotel hygiene.
  • “The way you just freestyle that whole night. Like, that did not happen like that.” (116:20 – Mal, re: compulsive liars)

6. Youth Culture: Growing Up Fast in the Scene

(76:24 – 87:58)

• 21 Savage's statement that “Atlanta is like a pedophile because it grooms you young” is discussed.
  • The hosts parse his meaning: cities can groom kids into adult environments and club life early.
  • Comparison to New York and gang culture, agreeing that our music/culture can “manifest” dangerous patterns.
  • “A city can groom you, I did understand what he was trying to say.” (77:41 – Rory)
  • Mal shares his first experiences in clubs at 16, witnessing the allure of money, cars, and women, and how that shapes worldviews.

7. Social Commentary: Friendship, Loyalty, and Cutting People Off

(113:35 – 119:58)

• Listener voicemail: “Have you ever cut someone off because of what they did to someone else?”
  • Rory: Regrets not cutting toxic people off earlier, after believing “they wouldn’t do that to me.”
  • Damaris: “If I see you’re a bad friend to other people–I have nothing for you.”
  • Discussion of compulsive liars and people who avoid conflict/passive-aggressive types.
  • “If you have bad personality traits and you’re a disloyal person, I’m cool.” (114:47 – Damaris)

8. Therapy Humor, Manifestation & Vision Boards

(72:21 – 76:24)

• Damaris realizes she should have been “more specific” with her vision board; speaks to the importance of “specific manifestation.”
• Rory admits battling negative self-talk.
  • Damaris: “You need to work on that, your brain starts to believe it.”
• Suggestion to share vision boards/predictions on Patreon.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On radio change:
  • “Radio needs to adjust and pivot to the times…and Breakfast Club is a perfect example of how you do pivot. That’s why they’re in the Radio Hall of Fame.” (20:00 – Rory)
• On Nas & DJ Premier album:
  • “This was like a book…It was a dissertation, was a TED Talk. And I mean that in a good way.” (44:15 – Rory)
  • “We need more drums on here. We need more drums.” (50:17 – Mal)
• On sharing hygiene/bathwater:
  • “Using your mama’s bath water is crazy…Don’t ever put no swamp food on my plate.” (61:03, 97:28 – Mal)
• On being tired of online music debate:
  • “I won’t say another motherfing thing about a motherfing rapper…Everything’s great. I love everything. Art is to be critiqued.” (68:00, 68:56 – Damaris, sarcastically)
• On manifestation:
  • “Words are very powerful. I think you can speak things into existence. I mean it takes work, but it starts with speaking.” (74:57 – Rory)
• On cutting toxic people off:
  • “If you have bad personality traits and you’re a disloyal person, I’m cool…I can’t have you sitting with these amazing ass people…” (114:47 – Damaris)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 03:00 – 07:00: Mental health, “vow of silence,” antisocial weekends
• 07:41 – 15:00: Weekend events recaps, Mass Appeal, Ghostface, Conway, Karaoke
• 18:45 – 34:59 & 76:24: Ebro in the Morning ends; radio’s future, rumors, culture shift
• 42:31 – 56:08: New music review—Nas x DJ Premier, Conway, 21 Savage
• 56:44 – 67:02: Gross-out stories, hotel hygiene, confessions about showers, Anthony Hamilton tweet
• 72:21 – 76:24: Vision boards, manifestation discussion
• 76:24 – 87:58: 21 Savage's “Atlanta is like a pedophile” remark, on growing up too soon, club culture
• 113:35 – 119:58: Listener voicemail: cutting off toxic friends, loyalty and lying in friendships

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Recommendations & Listener Picks

• Charity – “Warm and Soft” (R&B, spoken word, Damaris’ rec)
• Reggie – Recent Singles (Houston R&B, featured on Rory’s album)
• Movie: Unexpected Christmas (Prime) – Holiday film with Lil Rel & Anna Marie Horsford

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Tone & Style

The episode is freewheeling, conversational, and deeply self-aware. Hosts oscillate between irreverent comedy (“swamp food”), vulnerability (“negative self-talk,” shower confessionals), and thoughtful takes (music industry changes, youth culture). The group’s chemistry is on full display, creating an episode that serves as therapy session, group chat, and music barbershop in one.

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For New Listeners

This episode is a strong example of New Rory & MAL’s distinct blend of hip hop insider talk, honest life stories, internet angst, and cultural commentary, all laced with humor and an undercurrent of friendship. Essential listening for those craving a real, hilarious, sometimes surprisingly deep look at the intersections of music, culture, and growing up hip hop.

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End Note

If you want to follow up on these albums, recommendations, or catch the referenced Mass Appeal Ghostface interview, follow the New Rory & MAL socials or hit their Patreon for vision board sessions and more exclusive content.

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Key Takeaway:
“Adults can still have fun, man…But you gotta pivot with the times, too.” (12:12, 20:00)

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You got to run through the tape, Rory. You, like. You look like you, like, pulled up with, like, 10 meters left. Like.

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Yeah, you gotta run to celebrate.

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Yeah, you gotta run through the tapes.

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One ran right past me to win.

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Yeah, that's the problem, man.

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But no, no, I'm still. Still focused. Head down. But, you know, two more weeks. I'm focusing on just getting through the rest of this year.

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That's.

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That's where I'm at. Let's focus on these two weeks.

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Sound like such a dad. That's dad talk.

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Did you finish your Christmas shopping for whatever holiday you do Celebrate Happy holidays to everyone?

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Yeah. Nah, inclusive. I don't get gifts in the white no more. That's it. It's over.

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Really?

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Yeah.

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So, no, you get your nephews. I cannot see you not getting your nephew.

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He get gifts all. All year.

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That's how I was feeling about Amara this year. I was like, it's Christmas every day for this broad.

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Exactly.

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This broad is crazy.

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As exactly. What is going on here? I just finished mine, thanks to Amazon. I'm. I'm not going out in these streets.

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Amazon. No, you can't go out in these streets. You pass that. You pass that threshold.

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Nope, I don't want to see the tree. I don't care about that. I will be doing my online shopping, but I'm. I think I'm pretty much done, you know, trinkets for mom and dad.

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Thank you.

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No problem.

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So glad you can join us, Baby D. How you feeling? You all right?

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I'm great. How are you?

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You look good.

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Thanks.

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You look happy. Smiling. You glowing. What's that? What's that?

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It's a bit of a glow. And I don't think it's because of the purple light this time. You ovulating so wild. Why is it that HR becomes an issue in December every year?

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For every year, every. Y' all show your eyes.

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I don't think you're allowed to ask a woman in the workplace, is she ovulating?

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Like, why? You trying to nut me?

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No. Why now I'm uncomfortable. Like, what?

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Because.

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Why you ask?

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Can I go to hr? Can I go to HR now? I feel attacked. Can I. Can I. Can I schedule a meet? With myself.

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I'd like to know why you feel attacked.

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Because she asked if I was wanted to nut in her.

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Is that an attack?

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Yes. I'm a pull out guy.

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Oh, okay. Got you. She. She assumed who you were?

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No, she was glowing. Baby, he's glowing. So I just wanted to know what it was, you know, when women, you know, ovulate, they glow and things like that.

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I sat in my house all weekend and didn't speak to her. So, like, y' all are.

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Oh, that's probably why you're glowing.

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Yes. Oh, you're rejuvenated.

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Yes. No one heard my voice until I walked into work, too.

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You bedridded all weekend?

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I worked, but I just didn't speak to anybody.

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You ain't speaking to nobody all week. How do you pull that off?

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It was. I sat in my house and put my phone on D and D. Yeah. Not a soul.

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Wait, not even a phone call?

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Not a soul. I watched.

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You want to talk about it?

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Every single. No, it was great. I watched every single creek.

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Nah, nah, nah. We not doing that. We're not doing that. I know you watched everything. You caught up on your shows. It was great music, everything. Why are you sitting at home all week and not talking to nobody?

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Because I.

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Cold snow.

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Because we talk for a living.

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Shut up.

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We talk for a living. Then I got to talk to my family. Then I talk to my friends all day. I'm tired of talking.

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I'm with you.

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I'm not.

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I'm tired of the sound of my own fucking voice. Y' all don't get like that. Y' all been talking for years. Y' all don't get tired of the sound of your own voice.

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Yeah, but I don't sit at home all weekend and not even speak on my phone to anybody. Like, I've never done that.

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I'm like. I spoke to my. My little sister for five minutes because I knew if she kept calling me and I didn't answer, she would call my dad and he would pop up at my house. So I answered her phone call. That was it. Since Thursday.

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Yeah, but it's just a drastic change from last weekend. Like, last weekend it was, you know, it was a little more social. This weekend you was just anti.

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Balance.

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Got it. Balance. Y' all should try it.

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Wasn't it.

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Y' all also don't talk to nobody.

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Wasn't it him that said that? When you live alone, sometimes you realize you haven't spoken in two days?

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Yeah, like.

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Yeah, sometimes you need that shit.

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No, that's My shit. But I mean, I speak on the phone.

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Like, I need that to speak. I ain't have shit to speak about. I talk so much that I had nothing new to talk about, so I just didn't. I'm cool.

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I'm dead ass. Okay. Yeah. No, you need, though. If you can get a weekend where you can avoid speaking, especially in this.

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Gig, you need to do that because.

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That'S affected a relationship. I don't want to talk.

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We're going to table this and come back to. Baby, you going to circle back?

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I'm perfectly fine. My mental health's fine. Like, nothing's wrong. I just tired. I hate the sound of my own voice sometimes.

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I got used to it. I. For years, I hated it. I'm used. I'm. I've just given up on caring about it.

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You don't like your voice?

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Not that I. I dislike my voice. It was just uncomfortable because I'd never been like the on camera guy or like the person that, like, wanted their voice to be heard so badly that they've dedicated their entire life to just trying to be famous. I didn't have that part of my brain. So, yeah. When I started first hearing, because I used to edit the episodes, remember way back in the day, so I'd have to listen to myself. I'd be like, ugh, yeah. This is how I've sounded for the last 24 years. Well, how do I have friends? This voice is annoying as. But I've gotten used to it.

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Yeah.

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I don't really care at this point.

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Okay. Well, it's good to see y'. All.

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Yeah, we were outside this. We had the opposite. We was outside.

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Yeah, I was outside.

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We was outside. Outside. We was outside like rappers from Thursday. Well, just Thursday.

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Just Thursday. I'm about to say after Thursday. I wasn't outside neither. Was it cold? It was snowing. It was all kind of shit. I wasn't outside.

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Thursday. We went to the Mass Appeal. I don't want to say the. I mean, I guess it's a pop up. Yeah. Pop up for all the albums that they've put out this year.

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The Legacy Installation.

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Yes, installation. Those are the cooler words.

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The artsy words you got to say installation.

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In. In.

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No one is an installation like the.

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It was insulated. It was warm.

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Yeah, it was insulated.

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It was insulated.

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Yeah.

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I think it's for the remainder of the month. You should go there. And you don't need a jacket.

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They have.

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They have heat.

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Yeah. And they got jackets there.

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Yeah. But they have merch. There they have vinyls, there they have, like, each setup for each album. It's really, really cool.

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Shout out to mash appeal if you did hip hop.

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I really think you guys should go to the space in soho if you're in the Tri State area. But, yes, we went there and we interviewed Ghostface, which will be coming out on Thursday.

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Yes.

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And that was just an awesome bucket list combo.

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Yeah.

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Like, I was. I. I could not believe we were speaking to Tony Starks. And, like, he was just chilling and being funny, entertaining. Like, you really want to speak to us every.

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Everything you thought. I ever thought he would be, like, on a personal level.

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Yeah, yeah, absolutely. So I'm really excited to put that episode up.

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Shout out to Ghostface.

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Then after, well, Conway popped up as well. I didn't know Conway was coming, but you had mentioned that. Did he come with you?

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No, no, no, no. I saw him. We did that Thursday. I saw Khan Tuesday.

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Okay.

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But I told him about it and I told him. And shout out to Chad and they said they was pulling up, so. Shout out to Conway.

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Yeah, Conway was there, talked to Conway for a little bit, and then we was on our real rap shit. We went to the studio to celebrate and listen to music with men and bad food in Hennessy.

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Rory, you always listen to music with men. That's your bag. That's, like, when you comfortable with.

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Nah.

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What? You're always in the studio with men.

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That's not true.

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Well, 90% of the time, not really. Okay, refer to y'.

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All.

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My last three sessions were with Jazzy Joyce and John Lennon. He will rest in John Lennon.

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You think Rory was in the studio with John Lennon?

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You know Yoko's still alive.

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Yes.

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That's so wild to me. Like, how much she wanted to be the center of attention in the spotlight. And, like, then she just got her husband killed and disappeared.

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But, yeah, the truth. No, I'm not scared of the truth. I just don't know if that's the truth. But, yeah, shout out to Conway. We went to the studio, kicked it with Conway, listen to his album. Album available now. You can't Kill God with Bullets, which.

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Which we will get to music reviews shortly. But it was a fun night, man. I do like those studio sessions where, like, you don't have to work and you could just listen to amazing music.

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Yeah.

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And just enjoy yourself, talk some and, you know, drink dark liquor.

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No pressure.

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Yeah.

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Just come and have a good time.

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That's great. Conway is sitting on a lot of music, I'll say that. And he has a whole album with a, A, a producing duo that I don't know how you could just sit and have that and like not put it up.

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Well, after talking to him, I understand why he.

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Business. I get it.

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The business got to be right.

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But I be having those studio sessions to play it for everybody every Tuesday. Coming in here just listening to this album.

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Music is incredible. Yeah.

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So shout out to Conway again. We will get to the review of his project. Sunday I was outside.

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What's going on?

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Sunday I went to our friend of the show, Rosie, her. Her birthday party which Maris was invited to, but I didn't know, you know, she was taking her. What are the Buddhists do? Abstinence of speaking vowel. Silence.

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Okay.

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She couldn't come because she was taking her vow of silence. She's now going to sell gold coins in Times Square.

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How was the party? Like, you worry about me. How was the party?

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She said that? Bottled up all weekend. Yes. Just quietly. I was like, school shooter vibes.

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Yeah.

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Wrong time. It was fun. I did karaoke. My karaoke bag. It's just.

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She had a karaoke party.

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Yeah. And she had the theme, which is like a tick tock thing. The attire is not the occasion. So you dress as something that's not the occasion of the birthday party.

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I'm low.

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It's a tick tock thing. So like people show up dressed like in full athletic gear and they'll be like, this is not the gym. People will show up like, dressed as crossing guards and be like, this is not the street.

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So it's Halloween.

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Yeah, sort of. Yeah.

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You love to dress up, boy. I. I just want to come out and say happy birthday to a friend and just have a good time. Like, why do I got to dress up like a crossing guard to be like, oh, this is not a school zone.

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Listen, man, adults can still have fun. No, that's exactly m. Third robot. I don't think that person should be a crossing guard for children. I'll tell you that. Adults can still have fun, man. They splice it up and then they put it on tick tock. And it's just like all your friends entering the party like, this is not this. So you know, I. What did you. If a guy did it, I'd look at it a little weird. But it's a girl. I was allowed to do that type of stuff.

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Happy birthday.

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Not allowed to have that type of fun.

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No, no, we can't do that. But happy birthday to Rosie.

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Though I had forgotten that that was the theme, so I stopped At Target on my way there, and there was only a robe available. So I did. I gave her two options. I said, is this Tony Soprano's house? And then I said, is this a mental hospital?

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All right, so.

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Yeah, man, I think I freaked the road. Yeah, white beater on there, like.

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Yeah, you pulled it off.

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Sorry.

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Yeah, she was holding that in all weekend. Yeah, she didn't talk all weekend. So she'd been waiting to, like, sorry, get that out.

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And I. I actually got a lot of compliments of. Oh, you look like, even in the gym a little bit.

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Don't you love that? Don't you love when they say that to you?

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Come on.

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Have you been in the gym a little bit?

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Yeah, a little bit. Just a little bit.

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No, I really haven't. I've been back on my.

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That's what's up.

[B]

Yeah, that's so. All right. Karaoke. I only perform once, and our friend Danielle can sing really, really, really, really, really well. She's in, like, Broadway performances, and we hate those type of people at karaoke. Don't come up there and actually sing and, like, make this a real concert. So we agreed that I would do Kelly Rowan's part in dilemma, and then she would rap Nelly's part. And that was our performance.

[C]

Baby D, what you did this weekend.

[A]

Can you give us a little bit of, like.

[B]

Nah, nah. You have to wait till the footage drops. You know, everyone had their cameras up in there.

[C]

See, that's why I can't go to karaoke parties. Cause I feel like you inclined. You have to perform.

[A]

And you two. You two go.

[C]

I want to just go chill and just. You know what I mean? See my friends and just, you know, I don't want to perform. I don't want to get on the mic and have everybody make tik toks. Like, come on.

[B]

Eden was there. Eden was the karaoke dj.

[C]

Oh, he was his.

[B]

His man's. Who's. Who's been here. Sorry, I forgot. I want to call him Hector. Hector. Okay. Thank God.

[C]

Hector.

[B]

I didn't want to be wrong. His name be Hector.

[C]

It's Hector.

[B]

He. He killed some bad bunny. I didn't know because he's always quiet when he's here. He's a natural performer.

[C]

Hector's always quiet.

[B]

Well, Hector. Well, he's moving around. Who you know?

[C]

Yeah. Hector be throwing ass from the time he walked in the party to the.

[B]

Time he leaves on focus on the live stream.

[C]

He threw so much ass in here, he fell asleep here. Like, I was like. He worked for it. He deserves a rest. This guy's been gyrating all night. Fit Hector's quiet.

[B]

If you would close your eyes, you would have thought Bad Bunny was there. He went nuts. He didn't miss a syllable. Like, I was like, yo, this is a masterful performance.

[C]

Shout out to Edna, Hector, man.

[B]

So, yeah, that was my weekend. For the most part. I'm sure we don't need to ask. You just stayed in the house.

[C]

Yeah. You didn't make any snow when I did a little shopping Saturday.

[B]

Christmas.

[C]

Yeah, the one that did a little shopping Saturday, but then it snowed, so it was like, I'm not going out Sunday. Like, Sunday was in the house all day. Right.

[A]

So, yeah, I didn't know it snowed until this morning.

[C]

Don't say nothing. Don't. Whatever you do, don't say, I got this. I got this window. It snowed into the Maris. What are you going through? What happened? Like, not only did you not speak to anybody, you didn't even look out the fucking window. Like, what are you doing?

[A]

Nothing for nobody. I ain't look out the windows.

[C]

How you don't look out your window?

[A]

I have, I have like sh. Like the, the darkening curtains.

[C]

Like blackout curtains.

[A]

Blackout curtains. Three days.

[C]

Yeah, but blackout curtains is not supposed to be closed for three days straight.

[B]

You a even do like a little Uber eats door dash. Like open that and see. I don't know.

[A]

No, I. I Uber eats, but I guess it had. It snowed when I Uber eats. I Uber eats Friday.

[C]

And you Uber eats. And she said leave it at the door. Like she even want to.

[B]

I'm the same way.

[C]

Leave it at the door.

[B]

At the door. I want to talk to you.

[C]

Nah, once I had leave it at the door for a few times and you get your bag and it should be spilled in the bag. No, no, come here. Let me all let you money because I'm not paying.

[A]

But they can't do anything.

[B]

They should be like, go in the app.

[C]

Yeah, no, yeah. Don't, don't.

[A]

Yeah, I don't like when they put like, like, don't put my pizza on the ground. I don't like that. I don't like that.

[C]

Like, like the box.

[A]

Yeah. Don't put my pizza box.

[B]

Yeah, it's kind of wild. Yeah, that one's kind of nuts.

[A]

I don't like that.

[B]

But don't put my artichoke big ass pizza box on the back of your bike. And then it. I open it and turns into burrito.

[C]

Now burrito that should be rolled all up Deliver pizza to me one time. I know he was doing willies with my. In the back of his. It was no cheese on the crust.

[B]

I was like, didn't have no bungee cord.

[C]

Just. Just throw it on there willies. And I'm like, y. Why is my. Why is all the cheese over here and the crust is over here, like.

[A]

And you know, that ain't real cheese either. It's barely sticking.

[C]

What, vegan cheese?

[A]

Vegan ass cheese?

[B]

Hell, no.

[C]

No, that's good. It's good pizza. Going to put you on in this good vegan pizza spot.

[A]

All right. All right. I trust you.

[C]

You cuz I took. See, we. I took you to one spot.

[A]

Took me to a nice spot.

[C]

And then you was like, yo, I got to come in here. Like, ah, nah, nah, nah. Don't be doing that. Don't be going to my spots. B.

[B]

It was. It was Kia's mom's birthday on Sunday and she's vegetarian, so Kia actually made it the first time I've had of like, vegetarian dish where I was like, I would eat this, not for content purposes. Like, I'm. I'm going to heat this up tomorrow. Vegan lasagna. I think there was mushrooms in there. It was just fire.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

The cheese was like. I. I was. I was shocked.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

I don't. I don't know if it was vegan. Is there a difference between vegan cheese and vegetarian cheese?

[A]

So vegetarian just. It has no meat. It probably was real cheese.

[B]

Vegetarians don't eat cow products, right?

[A]

Yes, they do. They just don't eat.

[C]

They can like butter and things like that. It's like. It just can't be. Like you can't kill the animal for it.

[B]

Okay, I understand.

[C]

Gotcha. So you can eat products from an animal like butter, milk.

[B]

Yeah, very. Eggs. Yeah. Birds and the bees.

[C]

But you're not gonna eat a turkey wing.

[B]

Okay, maybe that's. Maybe that's why it was really good. Because it was real cheese. Yeah. I thought it was vegan cheese.

[A]

Vegetarian isn't bad. Vegan is when starts getting hard. But even vegetarian isn't hard.

[B]

Oh, no. Lasagna was incredible. But yeah, it was a. Yeah. Regular weekend, more or less.

[A]

How was Yalls commute this morning? What was the radio sounded like?

[C]

I never listen to radio.

[B]

You think that I listen to the radio for my morning commute?

[A]

I would think Ma would.

[C]

Ma o. I don't listen to the radio. We talk about that all the time. I haven't listened to the radio in. Sometimes I listen to it Just to hear what they're playing, but let me hear what they playing. And then if you in traffic for an hour and a half, you realize they play the same 14 songs. So it's like, all right, I'm cool. Like, I don't.

[B]

You didn't tell your lady Uber driver you'll throw on that funk flex this morning?

[C]

No, I did not. But for all of those who have not heard, Ebro in the Morning show has come to an end.

[B]

Yes. Ebro show consists of him, Peter Rosenberg, and Laura Stiles, all friends of the show. I mean, congrats on a crazy run. Ebro was, what, program director for 20 years, then on air for 10. I always loved their show. I think Rosenberg's one of the few people that, like, actually, like, gave a fuck about hip hop at a radio station. And Laura, always an amazing personality and was the best villain. Cause. And this is gonna sound misogynistic, but I'm just being truthful. Sometimes they just throw a woman into a radio show. Cause they need a woman. Laura Styles has been a part of this culture and loves hip hop and is knowledgeable about hip hop. That's what made her role so much better, that they weren't like, yeah, let's just get a chick that's attractive, and, you know, she can be like, ha. Like, Laura was, like, really, really contributed all the time, and it was amazing. I always love their show. I know they got a lot of shit because they made a lot of enemies, but their numbers were always really good.

[C]

What enemies did they make?

[B]

I mean, they're back and forth with. Which has always been in radio, but they're back and forth with power when power was capitalized.

[C]

Radio Beef. Yeah, okay.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. And, you know, Ebro sometimes rubbed certain. Like when he had. I think it was Kodak Black when he tried to get him to rap. Like, there's. There's been moments where they've rubbed people the wrong way, but I think that's what radio is supposed to do to some degree, as long as you're being somewhat respectful. But congrats on. On a crazy run. Like, I. I think that's amazing, But I also feel like it was good for them. Like, I even hit Pete, you know, just sent him a text. Thank God this is over. Like, radio needs to. To adjust and pivot to the times. And, of course, they were trying to do it with, you know, YouTube and breakfast club is a perfect example of how you do pivot. And that's why they're in the radio hall of Fame. But it was. Come on, man, you have to revamp. Like, as much as I thought Charlamagne and Envy should have stayed because of what they built there, I also think new blood is important and pivoting is important because radio, for the most part, if you think about it, when we were growing up, they treated radio like clubs. Like, we're changing the name every year.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, people talk about stars, generational run, which it was. That was one year at 97.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, usually, unless it's a Angie Flex, big boy radio, people leave like this. This changes. DJs change, everything changes. And New York radio has been not stagnant by any means, but it's been the same fucking people forever.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

So I think it's beautiful that Flex took over this.

[C]

New blood.

[B]

Yo, Flex. But to be fair, is just clean in house so he could take every fucking slot.

[C]

No, no, no. To be fair, Flex said he's only. Only taking over today.

[B]

Just filling in.

[C]

Just filling in today. We don't know what tomorrow looks like for the radio station. But, I mean, Flex did take over today. Another familiar voice and familiar, you know, personality.

[B]

I did not listen. But I just don't know what Flex's morning swag would be. Flex is amazing for evenings. I love a bomb on my way over the gw. Yeah, Like, I think that's great. Screaming is great at that time. What is Flex morning swag like?

[C]

I don't know, man. Maybe he got into his, you know, R B bag. I didn't. I didn't listen to it. But maybe he got into a little more R and B heavy for the morning commute. But either way, I do think that, you know, we spoke to Pete a few months ago. He came by, he gave us a little insight on things shifting.

[B]

I don't think this was a shock to them the way it was a shock to all of us.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

And I also don't think it really has anything to do with numbers. Cause at the end of the day, yeah, YouTube numbers are super important. But the real radio charts are what radio advertisers are looking for, what program directors are looking at. And Hot and Breakfast Club, like, month to month, it switch. It's not like it. The way we see Breakfast Club dominating in the digital space, it's not that way on the radio. So it's not like they were failures by any means. I just think this new company that bought it from EMIS doesn't give a about hip hop. I think they're just trying to shake, like, the way Elon when he bought Twitter, Turns to X, fired everyone on staff and was like, you know what? AI is going to run this year? I see, I see what our overhead is. I see what we're making. Sorry, guys. Ebro, you've been here for 20 years, so your salary is a certain thing. We're not paying that anymore. Like, that's what I think. And Ms. I think was more of a, still a corporation, but more of a niche corporation than. I forgot this one. That, that, that bought it, man. They don't give a fuck about hip hop.

[C]

So you don't think this has anything to do with the radio rico?

[B]

I don't know. I don't think Ebro, Rosenberg and Laura specifically, no. I don't think any of them are involved in any RICO activity whatsoever. Do I think, even though people have been giving me shit of like, I'm on my Candace Owens shit, like, where's the evidence that shit is still coming? Pause. And I think a lot of the shifts we've been seeing across the board, not just with Hot 97, but other radio stations, I think there's a trickle down connection to some of it where budgeting may land when things start to go to shit.

[A]

Mm.

[B]

So I don't think directly, but I think their overall bottom line no longer is caring about growing the Hot 97 brand.

[C]

What is going on on Hot 97? Because we've seen Summer Jam significantly downsize and it hasn't been as, you know, let's say, star studded as it's usually been throughout the years.

[B]

Well, I mean, I think that has, that's. Is it music that's a festival thing? That's festival culture where, you know, Summer Jam is a staple. And I think. Didn't we talk about this with Pete when he was here? They're competing with people that have fuck you money. Whereas, you know, Summer Jam isn't backed by Verizon, where Verizon can just start a fucking festival tomorrow and get Bad Bunny as a headliner. Like, they're, they're a small fish in a big pond now that festival culture is a thing and fans only have so much money per month. And what I'm. What do you think I'm gonna go to Rolling Loud or Summer Jam? If I, If I have $55 this month, what. Where do you think I'm go? Yeah, think I'm gonna go to fucking Citi Field and see all the Rolling Loud acts or I'm going to drive to Long island to see the Summer Jam? They can't compete.

[C]

Well, I do think that things do need to change. Change is good. Obviously, you know, even. Even with radio comes a time where you have to shift things and change with the times and the culture. I don't know what this looks like for high 97 moving forward, but it is a real thing now. I mean, not as many people listen to radio as before. We all are our own DJs to a certain extent now. Music comes out, we create our own playlist. So, I mean, maybe you listen to radio for some of the commentary and some of the, you know, the personalities that are there, but as far as the music and this is what, you know, radio is all about, the programming. I think. I just think people just are tired of hearing the same old shit over and over when it comes to radio. I think people want to hear more of the things that they like. They don't want things to be programmed and fed to them. I think people want real good music. They don't want to. They don't want the radio to tell us or to cater or curate a playlist and say, hey, this is what we want y' all to listen to all day on loop. I just think people moved away from radio and started listening to their own music in their phones.

[B]

I mean, radio is still super, super important. Of course, there's been a decline in.

[C]

You know, people talk radio.

[B]

Yeah. Our age have, you know, typically go more to Bluetooth in their iPhone and want to play the stuff that they want to play without commercials, this and that. But radio is still very much a thing of middle America. Again, when I say middle America, I don't actually mean middle America. Middle America can be in North Jersey, it can be in Long Island. Middle Americ still does get in their car and just. They're not as invested as we are, where it's like, I want to hear this song, then I want to hear this song, then I want to hear this song. Some people just get in their car and want to hit a button and fucking drive. That's still a huge part of the consumer. I just don't know what's going to happen in the next 40 years when all the kids younger than me are now the adults driving their kids to school. I don't know if they're going to be the people that just want to hit one button and drive.

[C]

Oh, no.

[B]

So they need to make shifts for what's going to happen the next 40, 50 years now with radio, in my opinion. And again, I'm not even going to speak as an expert because I don't know what that shift is. I really don't. I don't know enough about the radio business to know how they should pivot. But it is clear that change is coming. As important as they still are and will remain to be important, they got to change something. And I guess I view this more as a media personality than I do a fan. If I'm ero Laura and Pete, what else is there for me to do here? What's left here? If this company has no interest in growing this brand or letting us do anything, why am I here?

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

So I'm sure. Yeah, it's probably sad that, you know, they've been there for so long and that's been such a big part of their.

[C]

How long were they on the radio?

[B]

He got there when I was a senior.

[C]

He was there. Oh, seven, right.

[B]

07.08. Ebro's been there since I was born. Laura got there after K Fox left. I'm not sure which year that that was. Maybe like 2012, 13, 14, somewhere over there. But Laura's been there for a minute. But what, like, what more is there to do here? Yeah, like, of course we all have bills, so. Yeah, I'll keep. What. What am I doing? Nothing's gonna change here if the. If the people that bought it are not interested in that. So if I'm. Then, yo, good running. It's been a good run. Let's keep our brand going. Like, they still have their own show. Like Ebro in the Morning. They can take and do. They could still stay as a. A crew. Like, their. Their numbers, even on the audio podcast side are good. Like, I would just move on and keep the show. I mean, if that's what the three of them want to do. Right. Laura may want to do her own thing. Ebro may want to just focus on apple. Pete may just want to go wrestling. I don't know. But I'm saying the three of them still have a show that they can continue on.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

They don't have to stop just because hot doesn't want to.

[C]

Well, thank you to Ebro, Lauren and Pete for, you know, the years of radio and entertainment, great interviews, and we just have to wait and see where they. Where they end up. But I'm sure we'll see Laura, Ebro, and Pete again.

[B]

Yeah, they all alluded to that in their, like.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

And everything.

[C]

Just a change. Change is good. Change is inevitable.

[B]

What do we think? And this isn't even local because I still feel like Hot 97 is still a nationwide brand, even though it's not like a breakfast club that's syndicated in Iowa like it is. But Hot 97 is still a national brand because it's hip hop. What is the next move? Because none of the streamer. The streamers are the streamers. Like, that's where radio and they're always like, let's get new blood in there. I'm like, all the new blood that would be good. May not want to go at radio. Like, they have their own thing, whether it be podcasts and streaming like Twitch. I don't know if those people that would revamp it would have any interest in going to do that, but they need somebody.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Can'T be Flex. It can't be Flex.

[C]

No. And it won't be Flex. I mean, this is out of Flex. Is he saying that, you know, he's not going to be the permanent replacement? He was just taking over today, but yeah, I don't know, man. I don't know. I do think that this is a sign of things to come. I think there's more changes that will happen. I think that, you know, there's changes that have already happened before. This is just another one on the list. And I just think that's the time we in, man. I think things are changing. Things are shifting.

[B]

I heard a rumor because of their privacy, I will not say what it is, and I hate being this person, but I heard a rumor of who they chose for that morning slot and it's the best move they could have ever made. When I was told who they picked, I was like, oh, yeah, this is going to keep Hot90. It's the perfect person to keep that ship moving.

[C]

Morning, Speedy.

[B]

No, not. But I know a lot of people have complained over the years that there's not a lot of New Yorkers left at hot or at power. And when you have a New Yorker that's relevant, that's funny, that can revamp something and is a creative mind and has a cult following. Yeah, that's going to keep the Hot 97 ship moving if he takes that offer. It was when I heard that because I wasn't thinking too much of it. Like, I didn't spend my weekend wondering who Hot 97 was going to replace with. But when I heard it on Sunday, I said, oh, genius.

[A]

Can you cover your mouth?

[B]

Genius.

[A]

Ah.

[B]

I thought it was perfect. I thought it was a home run local, innovative. Yeah. Grew up on radio, but has clearly is in a completely different world. Like, I. I thought that was. Oh, yeah. You guys may have a fighting chance now. Yeah, I'M interested. You just had that reaction, though. That's.

[C]

That's.

[A]

No, it's not. It wasn't a barrier. I said, interesting. I. I'm. Which is more me processing it and thinking about it. You've had time to think about it. I haven't. So.

[B]

Yeah. Though Speedy would be great. But I think that was just a joke. I think Speedy enjoys his. His life of one interview when on his time. Because that's what I think people don't understand. Like, yes, everyone has full time jobs. I'm not saying a cushy radio gig when you're on the air for just four hours is not the life. But you take a morning gig on a radio station, that's your life. Though. Like, you can't travel. You can't like, even. Like, when. When Dame was, you know, jokingly giving charlamagne and all them shit, I felt attacked, too. When Dane was saying it. Dane was like, y' all live in this fucking box. Y' all even have a window. Like, when Dane was attacking them. I was like, God damn it, this is hurting me too. Like, he's like, y' all don't even. Y' all don't even get to go out and live like you've been in the same place. So, like, that's when in my nature, for the first time, I want to defend charlamagne. Like, fuck you, Dame. We have a life.

[C]

You don't have life.

[B]

I have dreams.

[C]

I go outside.

[B]

I have perspective. You know what I'm saying?

[A]

Y' all got a window. Like, damn.

[B]

But I feel him. And, like, granted, it's still a dream to have this kid, because you could say that about shit sound engineers. Like, I'm sure there's been times, like, I've watched Guru pivot to do stuff that he wants to do, but there was a time when I've heard him and just blaze. Talk about, like, do. We were working on Beans Freeway, J Cam. We literally lived in baseline. I used to go straight to change clothes. They used to get a hotel across the street just to shower. It's like we had no life.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, we literally lived in a dark room.

[C]

People don't talk about that part of it. Like, when you so baked into the culture in a position like radio or something like that, or podcasting, you know, it becomes a thing where it has to weekly, daily. You know what I'm saying? You have to do this thing and you have to be on air. It's a blessing and it's a privilege to have that position and to you know, kind of be in a spot where people look to you on their morning commutes and things like that. But there's a thing of, you know, it can box you in and keep you from growing and other opportunities that may come your way, you have to turn down because it just, you know, it doesn't coincide with your schedule for radio and things like that. So it's not an easy thing, man. We take for granted, you know, like you said, how people have to put their lives kind of on the back burner a little bit, their personal lives on the back burner when they have these, you know, these positions in our culture. So to have something like Ebro in the morning for so many years and that team to be dedicated to doing that for so many years, it's not a small thing, man. That's like a really big deal. And they should be proud of what they did, what they accomplished, what they've given us. And I'm sure, again, they'll be a part of whatever change is coming, whatever change is happening. I'm sure that all three of those individuals will land on their feet.

[B]

Yeah, no, absolutely. Though I am jealous of radio people. They get commercial breaks, music breaks. Yeah, we gotta.

[A]

Yeah, but we just got. Yeah, but it's four hours.

[B]

No, I know. And. And they've all moved to long form interviews as well. So they, they are podcasters.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Breakfast Club has won podcast of the year for the last 30 years, I believe. Yeah. So like, you know, they're a podcast.

[C]

That's how many years?

[B]

30. Yeah.

[C]

Charlemagne's contract is ending.

[B]

Yeah. Which is a good segue. Well, not Charlemagne's per se. It's the Black Effect Network signed with Iheart for five years. I think that's separate of Charlemagne's contract with Breakfast Club, but I could be wrong or they run coincide either way. But it. He was up there with Dolly. I forgot what platform they were on. Shout out to Dolly and they asked. December 2025, the contract's up, which I'm about to do. And Charlamagne did a great job of just dancing around the question. Same I would do not judging them for it, but I think with the news on Friday of the Iheart and Netflix deal, I don't think Black Effect is going anywhere. I think Black Effect will be staying with. With Iheart. I think that's Charlemagne's home base. That's Black Effects Homebase new partnership with Netflix. Why would you leave? Yeah, where, where would you go with all those shows when you have something like a Netflix partnership coming up with iheartrading.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

And, yeah, I mean, I know last time I said darling, I got killed because I didn't know darling was like an insult, but Charlemagne is also I heart's darling. I mean that in a. I mean that as a compliment. Like, I think Charlamagne can go up to I heart and get whatever the fuck he wants. Like, they love him because he's always delivered for the last however many years. So I think whatever Charlemagne wants with this new Netflix deal, he'll get. So I don't think he'll leave it all.

[C]

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[B]

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[C]

All right, well, we got some new music over the weekend, Rory.

[B]

Yes, it was a good, Good Music Friday.

[C]

Good, Good Music Friday. Remember Good Music Fridays?

[B]

I was at Def Jam.

[C]

Yeah, great. Fridays we got a Nas and DJ premiere album.

[B]

Yes, how's that?

[C]

After years of, you know, the culture kind of talking about it and wanting it, we obviously knew that it was happening this year and we finally got it over this weekend. Rory called me. Well, you text me.

[B]

I text you yesterday.

[C]

Text me Sunday. Sunday night.

[B]

I asked for a specific person opinion on it. Yeah, because that person is who I look to. I'm not gonna say because then people are gonna ask like what was his opinion? And we're not doing that. Yeah, yeah. I was curious what someone we revere in the hip hop world, what they thought of it. And their review was very similar to what I saw on the timeline and what I was texted a bit that some people were underwhelmed by some of the production. And this is why I'm glad I don't really look at the timeline before listening to a project. Did I feel like every beat was Nas's like, or Second Childhood or Devil's Pie? No. But clearly Nas had a lot of shit to get off his chest. Cause they. I need one of those, like, Twitter pages that has the stats of rapping and how many words. That's like the most rapping I think I've ever heard. Like the most words I've ever heard on a Nas album. I mean that a good way. Nas had a lot of shit to say and get off his chest. I don't know if the Premiere beats that you guys were looking for are set up for an artist that has a vision like that at that current moment. I just don't know if you're going to get New York State of Mind when Nas is in a different mind. Like if Nas was on there kind of giving regular NAS flow, 16 hook, whatever. I could be like, yeah, I would like a Nas is like in this mix. But he just had so much to say that was so important. That Premier could have played him 15 NAS's likes type beats and he could have went, nah, I want this one with a wider landscape where I can talk more. And that's what I took from it as. I can totally understand somebody that just wants to bang some premiere and Nas in their car. I'm with you. I get it. I don't think there's anything wrong with judging this album on the production side. Music is to be judged. It's your opinion. I just don't think that was Nas's vision. I don't know if Preem should get that flack because you don't know what was happening in that studio. Preem could have played a hundred bangers for him. He was like, nah, I think I want these more simplistic, pullback beats so I could talk the. I'm talking. That's. That's what I thought of the criticism. I personally really like. Every time I listen to it, I catch more. It's a very, very intricate Nas album. This was like a book. The. The. That they give Nas, like Kufinaz, that. This is that to me, like he was. It was a dissertation, was a TED Talk. And I mean that in a good way.

[C]

Right.

[B]

Like, even when people gave 444 some. Some shit. Even though I think those no ID beats are fucking crazy, when they gave 444 shit on the production side, it was like, well, Jay had a lot to say so clearly no idea is pulling back on some of these. Yeah, he's being mixed on top of the shit for a reason. Because what he's saying is more important than what you're listening to, production wise. But again, I'm also one of those people that picks production over lyrics any day. Yeah, I've heard shitty rap songs with good production. I'm sorry, rap songs with shitty lyrics and good production that I've liked. I don't know if I've heard production I hate and good lyrics. And then, like, I'm gonna listen to that again. Yeah, production is always number one for me, even though words are so important. But, yeah, if Nas had all this to say, then you're gonna get a, like a clean canvas, not a Nas's like, type of canvas. You're not going to get a New York State of Mind canvas.

[C]

I'm on the other side. I was a little underwhelmed by the album only because I think after getting 6 NAS hit boy albums and the music finally get into a space where. Because for years people have given Nas slack, like, you know, his production is.

[B]

Lackluster times, which I've always disagreed with.

[C]

Why they put that on Nas, I don't know, but whatever. So this album, I was expecting the music to kind of come again. Coming off all of the Hit Boy stuff, I was expecting the music to be a little different than what they gave us. I wasn't expecting it to be exactly what Hit Boy and Nas did, because this is obviously Preem and NASA, but it wasn't. To me, the music wasn't. You know, lyrically, Nas is going to be Nas on every. On every track. He's going to do what Nas does. So I'm not never worried about that. But I think the music on a lot of the tracks didn't carry Nas's lyrics as much as they could have.

[B]

Were you expecting more of the Ransom premiere album that came out in October, the Reinvention? Were you expecting more of that type of preamble?

[C]

Um, I'm not saying. I'm not saying I expected that type of Preem again, because the artist is different. So, you know, the producer has to kind of cater to whatever artist they're working with. But, you know, this album, the music to me is not as strong as I would have hoped it to be. Again, Nas lyrically is always in shape. He's always talking, you know, now he got real slick shit to talk about, you know, opening casinos and things like that. His whole language is different now. Just the music didn't really keep me and grab me the way I thought it would have been. You know what I mean? Like, this is something that people have been asking for for years between Nas and Premiere. So when we heard that they were finally doing it, we was all excited. I just think that it didn't live up to now. If we got this album before we got all of the Hit Boy albums, maybe I feel a little different. But coming off of all of those Hit Boy records and that music being what it was and as strong as it was to this was kind of underwhelming because, again, I'm only judging you off of your last.

[B]

Yeah, obviously with the Hit Boy one, you get records like the Cure, where Nas is just saying crap. I think that was on King disease 3. Like, he was rapping. Rapping on Hit Boy shit, for sure. But I think it was more of a balance of production and pulling back a bit on the rapping because of the production. I think he enters this one with the opposite thought of just getting everything he had to say, which I'm fine with because we have those six Hit Boy albums that are kind of in the other vein. But I feel like on Pause Tapes, you get the Nas Prem feeling. I think people wanted Madman. I think you get it. Like, it's a balance. I just don't know if. I don't know if people should judge this album this quickly based off who these two people are.

[C]

This is Slow Burn for you.

[B]

I think people should give it another chance. Cause I don't think it was designed to be the. Blow your ears into another stratosphere on the first listen while we all waited at Thursday at Midnight to just get in the car and play it. I don't think that was what they were going for. I think it's more. I think this is something you need to listen to more and appreciate more.

[C]

I appreciate it. I just can't. The music, to me, is just not what I would have hoped.

[B]

Don't think I don't have my critiques. Like, you know, I started at My Life Is Real, obviously at Midnight, but I wanted to skip to number three. New York State of Mind, Part three. Do I think that holds up against New York State of Mind, Part one and two? Absolutely not. I. I don't. I don't.

[C]

That's my thing.

[B]

I don't think you should. I don't know. I don't. I don't dislike the song. I just like the title.

[A]

Okay, I can understand that.

[B]

I don't dislike the song at all. It's not a skit for me. I just dislike the title. I think scratching and all that stuff, you could have just scratched something else in and it still would have been an amazing song. Like, I just.

[C]

We need more drums on here. We need more drums.

[B]

Again, that's why I think Nas wasn't like a clean slate.

[C]

But I gotta have drums, though.

[B]

Listen, I'm always. As much as I love Griselda and a lot of that sound and they still have drums, but I was still one of those, like, yo, I love that hip hop is still happening, but can we get drums back? I like drums.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

I hate that drums has become extinct in the quote unquote underground hip hop shit. Like, everybody just wants to rap over a fucking sample and some keys. Somebody at a fucking snare.

[C]

Right?

[B]

So I feel you especially preem drums, because pream drums are shit. Probably the most iconic drums in hip hop history. Like, of course you want premium drums. So I hear you not mad at that critique at all. Yeah, I just don't. I just don't know if that's what NAS1.

[C]

No, I get it. We wasn't in the studio when they created it, but, you know, this is what they gave us, so we can only go off of what the final product sounds like. But for me, it was a little. Little underwhelming. But again, you know, this is like childhood shit for me to. To finally get a Nas and DJ premiere album. So I'm happy that we got it, but it just didn't live up to my expectations of what I thought it would sound like. But not saying it's a bad album. It just didn't live up to the expectations that I had for it.

[B]

No. And again, I want to make clear, when I saw everyone critiquing it, it wasn't a bunch of people hating. Like, it was. It was music people really telling their opinion on it. It wasn't one of those, like, just hate trainers things. So I. I can appreciate people disliking the project and give their reasons. I saw a lot of, like, song breakdowns per rating each one. I was like, well, how could you be mad at that person? That's not hate.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

That's just their opinion.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

So that I was at least happy to see that any critiques and negative comments about it came from a place of somebody that was actually trying to listen.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Not somebody that was just like, oh, turn that old shit off.

[C]

No, no, you can't. You can't talk to those people. Those people are gonna. They're gonna trash anything that didn't come out when they were born.

[B]

So, yeah, they trashed at 11:59, yo. That's he refreshed. Not even out yet. But also on Friday. Congrats again to our brother Conway. You Can't Kill God with bullets out now. 18 records, right? An hour. Exactly. I mean, I like. I don't know. At this point. Conway's the same we say about Gibbs. Like, just the discography at this point is kind of untouchable for me.

[C]

This is one of Conway's best albums. I'm top to bottom on the same side. Still rapping at a very high level. Not many people can rap better than Conway. But what I told him last week, listening to it, the music on this album, he stepped it up on the production side, the music side. Getting more into. He's not too many features. A lot of the songs is just him by himself doing the hooks, everything. So to see Conway evolve in that aspect of his craft is dope. But yeah, I love this album. This is one of my favorite Conway albums for sure.

[B]

It's up there with my personal favorite. It's up there with Lulu and Me, the Alchemist one. God don't make mistakes. It's up there as well. Yeah. I think him and Wes have a really good quality of topping their previous work constantly. Like every time I think this is my favorite Westside Gun album. He puts out Pray for Paris. Like it.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

It's just every time they find new ways to make straight rapping interesting again and again. I think production wise too. These are some of my favorite beats that comp hit.

[C]

Absolutely.

[B]

So I can't say enough.

[C]

It helps to have a few Justice League records on there too.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

You know what I'm saying? Can't be mad. That'll help any artist, any project.

[B]

I love that he put Yayo on the shit though.

[C]

Yeah. Yeah, absolutely.

[B]

I thought that was great. We also got a 21 Savage project.

[C]

Shout out to 21 Savage. What you felt about it.

[B]

It's one of those. I do want to give a proper listen. Cause I did stay mostly on Nas and Conway. With the time that I did have this weekend, I did give it a once over.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

When we got back from the ghost shit, we were all here with some of. Some of our Patreon Discord friends. And you had played the Drake record. I saw that. Getting a lot of shit. I don't know what the fuck y' all are talking about.

[C]

And people don't like.

[B]

I don't think. Yeah. This Is not a Drake cast. On my end, I will always be objective. Y' all are bugging. That record is fire.

[C]

Oh, they not. They don't. They're not fucking with it.

[B]

I mean, hatred, like, you never know who's on the other side of hating.

[C]

Oh, okay.

[B]

Like, not any personal people I know are like, that is trash. But the Internet, I never know what their agenda is. Click their abbey. It's like, oh, okay. Makes sense. That mystery coup is fire. That beat is fire.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I don't know what y' all are talking about there. Production wise with 21, I prefer more of the American dream. 21 Savage, his last album. Okay, I like that production with 21, but it wasn't. It wasn't bad off off the first list. And I do want to give it, like, some real proper attention because, like I've said before, like, 21, I know he's now not like a new artist, but that era of gonna baby, 21 is my favorite out of all of that graduating class.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

So I do want to give it its proper do. But, yeah, it was. It was one over.

[A]

It was.

[B]

It was cool. But I. You know, coming off American Dream, which is probably my favorite 21 album, I was just like, all right, I had that 21 in my head.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

I don't. That's not this. But it's just. It's still cool.

[C]

It's a different vibe from that.

[B]

Definitely a different.

[C]

But it's still good raps on there. Still good music, good production. 21 still talking this shit on there.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

I wasn't mad at the project. I wasn't mad at all.

[B]

Yeah. Damaris, did you listen to any music? I mean, I know you were.

[C]

Again. She opened her windows. You didn't let no. No fresh air in. You didn't do nothing. You just bedrot and fart and eat and it was funky in there. Funky. Cole Medina.

[A]

It was. It wasn't that bad, but, yeah. Nah. Watching Lucifer from the beginning, like, I'm just.

[C]

Hold on, hold on. Don't say nothing. Don't say nothing. Rory. So. So far we got. She didn't speak to nobody all weekend.

[B]

Didn't know. It's enough.

[C]

She didn't open her window. She didn't even know we had a snowstorm and she was watching Lucifer all weekend.

[A]

Lucifer is a good show.

[C]

I just want y' all to understand. Just the bulletin. I'm giving you the bullet points.

[B]

Yeah, she must have done.

[A]

You see why? You see how not interacting with humans will have you, like, glowing?

[B]

What's the longest y' all went without a shower.

[C]

Without a shower.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Because I've had some bedrock weekends where it's like, damn, last time I.

[A]

Showered when I was depressed, I probably went a good three days.

[B]

I'd probably go on three days.

[C]

That ass was smelling like the rim of the mustard bottle. Just.

[B]

Oh, actually, I don't know. When I. When I was studying to become a member of Kappa Alpha Psi fraternity Incorporated.

[C]

I is that you have to say that every time.

[B]

Sometimes I. Sometimes nights I would study. You know, I have my head in the book.

[C]

Llc. LLC Incorporated.

[B]

What's the non hazing organization. Make it clear. Some nights I would just be studying so hard for like weeks on end. Months, I would study so hard that sometimes I would forget and not have.

[C]

To wash your ass to.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. But that was just because I had my head the books, man. So, yeah, that time it may have been more than three, but I've never. Civilian world three.

[A]

I've never done it like, where I was like, this is tmi, but if I use the bath, like, if I poop, I have to, like, shower that day.

[C]

No, no, you better shower that day.

[A]

So it's never been like that because it was always like, I had to. I just wasn't eating. I was depressed. I wasn't eating, so I wasn't pooping. So I was able to go three days without showering.

[C]

So, yeah, that was. She was just fasting. That's all you was doing, fasting?

[B]

You was just so depressed. She was praying and fasting.

[A]

Fasting from my zest for life.

[C]

Yeah, you was just fasting. That's all you was doing. Baby, there ain't nothing wrong with fasting. You need it.

[B]

Yeah, Peach made a good point. You just get a bidet. Having a bidet and being depressed is just kind of a funny. Like being depressed and then purchasing a bidet, being depressed. Water shooting up your.

[A]

Like how you depress while water is shooting up your ass.

[C]

I mean, you know, sometimes that's depressing. You don't want to wash your ass. You don't want to be clean. What Anthony Hamilton said, ain't shaved, ain't. Ain't did nothing. Charlene. You don't remember Charlene?

[A]

I remember Charlene, but I can't remember what he said.

[B]

Man. I was. I was pushing for them. I was really hoping they was going to make it.

[C]

Not washing your ass and your shower was right there for three days is just crazy.

[B]

Anthony Hamilton might have one of the nastiest tweets of all Time. And I know I'm not allowed to. You know, who am I to talk about that? But, you know, Anthony Hamilton talks about getting in. This may be a Southern thing, so I apologize.

[A]

He.

[B]

He talked about getting in the bath after his mom. Like, his mom's bath water. That was a thing. I just remember everyone killing him on Twitter that day in, like, 2010. And it was just like a. Maybe this is just a. A Southern cultural thing that I just don't fully understand. So I'm here to learn. I'm just. Yeah. The tweet was, remember using your mama's bath water after she did let's Get Back to Love?

[A]

Let's get.

[C]

I don't know if you hashtag back.

[B]

To Love, and if that was the name of the song he was promoting that week, that's even crazier.

[C]

But using your mama's bath water.

[B]

I don't. It could be a simple. Let me.

[C]

Let me tell you. No, it ain't.

[B]

Oh, no. The title was let's Get Back to.

[C]

Love, the name of the album let's Get Back to Love.

[B]

Back to Love. And I love Anthony Hamilton. But again, Anthony.

[C]

Listen, we love Anthony Hamilton over here.

[B]

Legend.

[C]

I don't know how deep in the trenches you got to be to have y' all niggas got a shared bath.

[B]

We're not from the sticks Mall. Like, that could be a thing where you only have so much water for the week, fam.

[C]

Sharon Bathwater. You in the fucking trenches.

[B]

All right, man.

[C]

Way deep in the trenches.

[B]

And I've been to Charlotte. It's kind of a city.

[C]

Wait, this happened to Charlotte?

[B]

I'm just looking at.

[A]

But back in his day, Charlotte.

[C]

Back in his day, me and Anthony Hamilton might be the same. You talking about, like, to be back in his day. Would you think he 89 years old? This thing is not even 50 years old yet.

[B]

I know a lot of people from Charlotte Hamilton, man. He's 54. He was born in 71. So you guys are 10 years old. 10 years apart.

[A]

71. Back. Backwoods Charlotte. I could see it happening.

[C]

Nah, sharing, sharing. Bath water is crazy. Let me wash my ass. Get out. And then you get in the same water because.

[A]

Because now we got rock, paper, scissors. Because who get the fresh water?

[B]

It seems like mom did.

[A]

Oh, yeah. If I was my mom, I'm for sure getting the fresh water. You could.

[C]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

I don't know, man. He went to South Mecklenburg High School. South Mech Sabers. That sounds like some, like, Deep south shit. I don't Know, I don't know if he was in, like, Charlotte by the stadium. He also could have just been. He may have had an outhouse.

[C]

Remember using your mama's bath water after she did?

[A]

He said that shit like, we all had the same experience.

[C]

Yeah, like, nigga, no. I've never used my mom's bathwater. Never. It's never happened.

[B]

Okay. Not showering for five days or use your mother's bathwater.

[C]

I almost showered for five days. I'm not using nobody's bath water.

[A]

No, that's so crazy.

[C]

I'm not doing that, bro.

[A]

I don't like my own bath water if I've been sitting in that bitch.

[C]

You know how crazy that. I'm not doing that. My mother or not. I'm not using somebody's bathwater water.

[B]

I want to be. I want to be like, hey, we all use hot tubs and pools, but there's, like, they put chemicals in there to. To clean it.

[C]

Yeah, but if somebody's in the hot tub and they bust out a loofah and start washing they ass, you think I'm going to just sit in there and be like, no, it's chlorine.

[B]

Definitely been in a hot tub with dirty people. Oh, please. 100%.

[C]

Yeah, which is why I don't, like, I've never. I never jacked, like, pools and hot. I was never that guy with this.

[B]

Another fella. True.

[C]

Who, me?

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

What hot tub? I was in with another fella.

[A]

You was with a hot tub with a fella?

[B]

You told us the story. Like, you.

[C]

You were like.

[B]

Just ended up.

[C]

Everyone got out and just. Y', all, too. I don't remember.

[A]

I don't. I don't remember that stuff.

[C]

But everybody got out, and then I noticed that it was just me and him. Tell a whole story. Don't make it seem like.

[B]

Story on Mike. Yeah.

[C]

Don't make it seem like.

[B]

He said it was just mall and a guy in a hot tub.

[C]

He was, say, me and a guy in a hot tub. I'm like, wait, when did that happen? Like, nah, but everybody got out, and then I realized that it was just me and this gentleman. I was like, I'm getting the out of here. Yeah, but no, it was other people with us. And I looked up, and it was just me and him. At one point, I was like, I've.

[B]

Probably been in a hot tub with just. I mean, I was joking. Where me and Pe were in the hot tub together in St. Thomas, but there was a lot of other people.

[C]

In that hot tub that's what I'm saying.

[B]

But I've probably been with a friend and went in a hot tub before.

[C]

Just you and the homie probably. And walked in together.

[B]

That crazy to say. I'm not saying we were in a. We weren't in a motel with a heart shaped tub watching hbo. Yeah, Like, I've gone. I've done those friend trips where, you know, it's like, you know, five guys, five girls couple up to the Poconos before. And I've probably been on the deck in the hot tub with a friend before. I don't think that. All right, that's what. No, listen, I don't think that's that crazy, man.

[C]

One thing about me, I'm just here to support you, my brother. You know what I'm saying? Whatever you do is what you do, fam. I'm not a pool with a man before a pool.

[B]

Yeah, you and the homie just, you know, getting your laps.

[A]

Been doing laps.

[C]

Me and the homie have never just gotten a pool and started doing lap. That has never happened. Not even a pool. Just in the ocean. Just y' all two at the beach.

[B]

All three of these things I've done.

[C]

By the way, getting in a hot tub with another man is crazy. I'm sorry. It's like, yo, let me like what you about to do? You want? All right, then I'm gonna just go do something else. Then when I see you not in the hot tub, then I go get in the hot tub. But I was never a fan of hot tubs. Like all. Anything with them jet stream. I was never. You go to a hotel and they had them tubs with them. I'm not. I'm never getting that. Because I'm like, I know they don't. They're not cleaning that. No, there's no way they clean.

[B]

One of my favorite.

[C]

I've seen how fast housekeeping turnover. A room that should be 12 minutes, whole room clean.

[B]

Yeah, you did.

[C]

They cleaned them jet streams. Nah, bro, I'm not fudgeing with that.

[B]

Oh, don't ever, ever watch the 60 Minute Special. This is probably like 25 years old, but everything's on YouTube. Of when they went into select hotels, chain hotels. They didn't say what the name was. With a black light, that shit. They started the episode on 60 Minutes saying if you're. What if you're watching this from a hotel room right now, Turn it off. 60 Minutes said, Stop watching us. We don't even want the ratings. Do not watch this. If you're sitting In a hotel room right now. It was nasty.

[C]

You know, one thing I do.

[B]

It was sick.

[C]

One thing I do when I go to. When I check in a hotel that nobody ever understood until I broke it down. Like, I always wrap my pillow with a towel because the person that just had the room is using that pillow and they drool on that shit. They not change. That drool is in the pillow.

[B]

Oh, you're saying the actual pillow itself.

[C]

The pillowcase.

[B]

Okay. Yeah, they're cleaning the pillowcase.

[C]

The pillowcase. But the drool. All of that should go through the pillow and into the feathers of the pillow and all of that. And then they just change the pillowcase. Nah, put. Wrap my shit with a towel, man.

[A]

Aw.

[C]

Because then you gonna go in the room one day. You never checked in a hotel. And it could be a nice hotel. And just the shit smell got a. Like a. Even the comforter, it just smells like. Like it was damp and they didn't dry it all the way. It was like the feathers got there.

[A]

It always smells like that when you go out the country. Walking out the country always smell damp, no matter how expensive the hotel is.

[B]

When we were making music in a specific motel in Detroit and then in New Jersey, for the one in Jersey, I was sleeping there. I went right to Target. Oh, I know. I bought pillows, sheets, blankets. I threw everything that was. I almost wanted to buy a new mattress.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, so I was like, I believe you. Like, me and crew sleep here for two weeks.

[C]

Hotels can be really dirty, man. Like, I don't care if it's a nice hotel. Like, you know how many people have slept on this mattress?

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

In these pillows.

[B]

I've been to a few nice areas.

[C]

Crazy.

[B]

Been to a few nice airbnbs that have been like. I don't know if, like, the last time they washed this shit.

[A]

Oh, I ain't fucking with no Airbnb. Airbnbs freaks me out. I gotta wash everything.

[C]

Like, when you check in, you change the sheets.

[A]

Yeah, I gotta wash it.

[C]

I'm not mad at that.

[A]

Pillowcases especially.

[C]

It's the pillow. Fuck the pillowcase. That pillow drool, all that. That shit seeped right through that.

[A]

Cause I drool heavy, too. So now I'm thinking about that.

[B]

I'm telling you, you never had, like, drill stains on your pillow when you go to wash your pillowcases. Like, you can see.

[C]

Yeah. Oh, yeah.

[B]

And dirty ass mouth.

[C]

Hell yeah. You better put a towel. Wrap this in the towel.

[B]

And on top of that, like, I don't want to be Too vulnerable here because you guys are mean. I'm also like a pillow, like hugger because I'm a cuddler.

[A]

So you make the pillow.

[B]

Like I've been, you know, I've been in long term relationships. I'm used to, like, sleeping next to somebody every night. So that's what's up. So, like, mall. I like.

[C]

I'll get a load of this guy. I'm used to. I'm used to sleeping with somebody.

[B]

I didn't mean to. I mean, a big league, you guys. Yeah.

[C]

You know, so good.

[B]

When you live with a woman, you.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Sleep with her every night.

[C]

That's what's up.

[B]

So I got accustomed to. To that. So, you know.

[C]

So you know what I just got you? I just got your Christmas gift already. Oh, God.

[B]

You get a body pillow. No, but here's the thing.

[A]

Oh, A lonely boy.

[C]

The pillow with the arm. They got the arm on it.

[B]

Oh, I don't have that one. But Kia had her pregnancy. Like there's pregnancy body pillows.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

And after Amara was born, I just gave me that.

[C]

Yeah, the one where you could kind of put your arm up on the side of it.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Yeah. It's good.

[B]

She made me want to be pregnant.

[C]

Good pillow.

[B]

I just want to see what your reaction would be. Sometimes I just say things to see what more.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

That's your friend. I barely know.

[C]

That's my man. That's my bro. That's the bro right there. No doubt about it. That's the Bro. 21. Savage did a interview, Rory.

[B]

I did see that. Yeah. We got off music somehow and I'm not letting ja' Maris off the hook. I love the position that you're in. I would love to not ever critique music again, too. I saw the deflection you did there.

[A]

What are you talking about?

[B]

I ain't listening to nothing. Yeah, I'm not.

[A]

I really haven't listened to nothing.

[B]

Defending music gets us in trouble.

[C]

Listen, we just have. Jason washed her ass this weekend. That was asking a lot of Damaris.

[A]

Thank you.

[B]

And second, I don't think Damaris is going to review another bit of music for the rest of us.

[A]

I won't say another motherfucking thing about a motherfucking rapper. About a singer. No, no.

[C]

But why, though?

[A]

I'm cool. I'm so tired of going viral for my music opinions, but.

[B]

Because you can say you like a rapper and then your grandmother's address is on the Internet.

[A]

Like, I like. I'm cool.

[B]

I not even disrespect another rapper. Just Be like, yo, you know what? I like that rapper.

[C]

Damn. So you're not. So you're not. You don't want to critique any music.

[A]

I'm about to go beauty space.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

I'm about to start critiquing mascaras.

[B]

I'm cool now. Wait to wait till the Fenty fellas put your uncle's address on the Internet.

[A]

The Fenty fellas.

[B]

There's. I'm sure there's a beauty content hive somewhere where, like, Mac versus Fenty. And the way the Internet has split with rap music, there's probably a makeup world like that.

[A]

Probably. I'm cool. I done been up on that Summer Jam screen so fucking much. I'm tired. Never again.

[B]

And you just talked about Summer Jam, too.

[A]

Yep.

[B]

I'm never again.

[A]

Everything's great. I love everything. Art is to be critiqued. Everybody, you know.

[B]

No, art is not to be critiqued. Everything is iconic.

[A]

Yeah, y' all scared.

[B]

Yeah, look at y' all scared. I just did. All y' all drinking.

[C]

Scared of the Internet. That. Look at you.

[B]

I. I ain't scared of.

[C]

Hey, peace. They scared, man.

[B]

P said, me too.

[A]

Y' all keep trying to put a. A mic in front of P. P, like, get this mic out.

[B]

My Internet almost got three. Three kids heads blown off in my driveway.

[C]

Oh, my God. Y' all are crazy, man. Y' all can't be scared of the Internet.

[A]

I. I'm not scared of the Internet. It's a difference between being scared and just being. I'm tired.

[C]

Oh, you tired?

[A]

Because no matter what you say, she.

[B]

Said it like the mom loving basketball when she got her.

[A]

I'm just. Quincy. I'm tired.

[B]

I'm tired.

[A]

No matter what you say, it's. Somebody is gonna take it the wrong way and turn it around and twist. I'm tired. I don't got it in me. So Everybody's album was great. Congratulations to everybody. I don't know.

[C]

Nah, Everybody album wasn't great, but I get it. I understand what you're saying.

[B]

Nah, everyone's. Everyone's music is perfect. No, but I am gonna check out 21.

[C]

Everybody's music. Everybody's perfect. Dead ass. I love what you did there, sir. Perfect. Perfect.

[B]

I've actually never heard bad music in my life.

[C]

Y' all crazy.

[B]

The one thing on earth that's perfect.

[C]

Every time, I'll be the bad guy. It's all right. I'll take the.

[A]

You know what's crazy, though, Ma? That works for you because you've been it for so long.

[C]

What the bad Guy this.

[A]

Yeah. Like, you so dedicated to just saying whatever the fuck you want to say, because why not?

[C]

Why not?

[B]

No, that's unfair.

[C]

I'm not disrespecting nobody. Like, I'm not sitting there. I'm not being disrespectful. If I don't like your song, I don't like your song. If I don't like your album, I don't like your album. Doesn't mean I don't like you Just don't like what you put out.

[B]

There was a turn on a certain month of a certain year where Mall became the bad guy. Before that, Maul was the nice guy that put on so many artists that we love.

[C]

Yeah, but I still do.

[B]

Mall was never the bad guy. What are you saying? Wrestling the heel. He was never the heel of podcasting, like, ever for the first 10 years. It just happened recently. It was a wild shift to watch.

[C]

But I don't know how, how, and why they gave it to me. But whatever, man. Like, I'm still gonna talk my. If your album is whack, his.

[B]

His hardest battles to his strongest soldier.

[C]

There you go, man. I got you, Baby D. Just, like, text me your.

[B]

Text me your opinions.

[C]

Text me your opinions on music, and I'm gonna just get it. I gonna tell them it's your opinion. I'm gonna just get my off. That's all. Let me know what you listening to. Like when that new Mariah scientist drop, if you ain't feeling it, text me.

[A]

That's impossible.

[C]

And I'm on Mariah. I got Mariah.

[B]

We have to. We have to leak her mother's address and ask her if she's really a scientist. Like, we. That's the. The lengths we have to go with music opinion Friday. We have to harm people's families.

[A]

Did you guys hear Friday's EP that he dropped?

[B]

No.

[C]

No, I didn't hear it.

[A]

Damn, he dropped it.

[B]

Oh, shout out to my guy Friday.

[C]

I didn't even know he put one out.

[B]

Yep, just this weekend. Damn. I apologize.

[C]

Friday.

[B]

Damn. Oh, well, definitely listen to that.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Look out Friday's album for sure.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Everybody Got Somebody. Ep. 6 records, 20 minutes. I'm putting this on in the car.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

That's ride home for sure.

[C]

That's a perfect listen right there.

[B]

Yep.

[C]

Six tracks, 20 minutes.

[B]

Shout out to Friday. Thank you for telling us that. Of course. Oh, yeah. Oh, now I know why. Track number five. I thought you said, like, putting my man.

[A]

I haven't heard it yet, though. I have not heard it, but I Knew that it came out. So shout out to Friday, but.

[C]

So you went straight to just the Mariah record.

[A]

I haven't heard anything, baby.

[C]

Oh, you didn't hear the record?

[A]

No, I just know that he put one out. I haven't heard anything.

[C]

Okay, got you. All right, that's fair.

[A]

But I was looking at my vision board earlier, like, looking at my vision board from 2020 that I made, you know, in January. I'm like, this is what I want for my life. I got everything I wanted on my vision board other than these piles of money that's on here. I got everything I wanted on my vision board. But I should have just been a little bit more specific. I should have just been just a little bit more.

[C]

You know, when they pray for a man, they don't pray for, they got to get more specific with the type of man.

[B]

God answered your prayer. You got a man.

[C]

Put a man in front of you. God will put a man in front of you.

[B]

You got to say exactly what's. What's that movie with the guy from the Mummy? He's like the worst actor. He was in Crash. Probably the worst actor of all time, Brandon Frazier. What was the movie?

[C]

Encino man is a classic. We're not doing that.

[B]

He. He's one of the worst actors.

[C]

And see, no man is a classic. We're not doing that. Yeah. What was it? The Whale.

[B]

Macklemore is one of Grammys. Let's not now. Why Macklemore? That was fun too, because Mackmore's actually talented. I didn't mean to say that.

[C]

And I like white on white violence. Oh, good, good.

[B]

What was the movie where he had, like. He got a genie, but he wasn't specific with his wishes. So everything he wished for that movie, his acting is horrible in it, but the concept, that movie is great. He has a genie and he keeps wishing for things, but he's not too specific with it. So it ends up being the worst thing ever. But that's a throwback.

[C]

Wow. What is that, 90? What?

[B]

2,000.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

Orlando Jones. So this is pretty much. You should watch Bedazzled.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

As a way to go into 2026 of how you need to be more specific with your prayers, bro.

[A]

I looked at. Because I had put like one of the pictures I put on there was just like. It was kind of like virality, but I just meant it because I wanted to grow my audience. I promise you, I never. I never.

[B]

I'll never do it again.

[A]

I looked at that was like, oh, you manifested all the wrong Wait, you.

[C]

Put go viral on your.

[B]

Not go viral.

[A]

I put a photo.

[B]

It was supposed to.

[A]

It was supposed to represent, like, growing my own personal audience. Okay, but it just. I should have been more clear. Like, I should have been more clear because I got the followers, but it wasn't the way I wanted to.

[C]

Okay, got you.

[A]

Yeah. It wasn't for what I wanted to be known for, but.

[C]

All right, well, I mean, life happened. It's okay. It's all right.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

All right.

[C]

We'll be more.

[B]

Be more specific. Maybe we do on Patreon. Maybe we. We start our vision boards on Patreon for 2026.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

Start our vision boards.

[B]

We'll get some magazines. We'll have mall cut out photos.

[C]

It's like a ransom note. Yeah, gotcha.

[B]

You know, I would like to see more. Make a vision board that's worth 20 on Patreon, for sure.

[A]

Do you guys believe in manifestation? Like, do you.

[B]

Yeah, absolutely.

[A]

You do.

[B]

I think words are very powerful. I think you can speak things into existence. I mean, it takes work, but it starts with speaking. Yeah, I definitely think manifestation.

[A]

Practice it or do you just believe in it? Because some people believe in it, but they don't, like, actively practice it.

[C]

It.

[B]

I try. I'm a pessimistic person internally, so I have to, like, practice extra hard. Like, I have to remind myself to do that.

[A]

Yeah, I think you have a lot of negative self talk that you need to work on.

[B]

Oh, for sure. Absolutely.

[C]

Negative self talk talk.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So I think Rory, a lot in his head will say, like, I'm an idiot, or that was so stupid, or I don't deserve this, or this, this, this and that. And it's like, you shouldn't talk like that because your brain starts to believe it and then your actions follow. So you start acting like you don't deserve certain things and reality that derives from childhood.

[C]

Y. About to say, that's the only child.

[B]

That's a no.

[C]

I'm so stupid, Mom.

[B]

No, like that.

[C]

Like.

[B]

No, it's not the. I wasn't saying that.

[C]

Oh, my bad.

[B]

It's how Irish people raise their children. No, I was not the one saying that.

[C]

Oh, it was. It was Jake pe.

[A]

I mean, m. I can't even.

[C]

Oh, my God.

[B]

Man. Well, yeah, that could be a fun. When we go through our 2025 prediction, see which ones came true, and our 2026 predictions, we can do our manifestations on Patreon for that episode. I think that'll. That would be a fun one. Speak some positivity into existence before the new year.

[C]

Yeah, here you go.

[B]

But I did want to get in his 21 savage shit. We keep getting off music. He did an interview. I want to get into, like, some of the stuff he said, because then we're just getting back to what Damaris and I were just saying of going viral, talking about other artists. He did say that Atlanta's like a pedophile. And I was trying to see where he was taking us. But I did understand what he was saying as far as the city you grow up in can groom you to start participating in things you have no business participating in at your age.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

Like, I used to use a fake. Before I even got a fake id. I used to use my man's id, and there was teenage clubs to go to. And I still would try to go to 21 plus clubs when I was 16, 17 with fake IDs, like, I had no business to. I shouldn't have been exposed to that. Like, I shouldn't be at a bar that has titties at 16. So I. I feel them like Atlanta's nightlife kids are attracted to. And Atlanta specifically has a very vibrant nightlife, if you want to call it that. And yeah, I'm sure him growing up, all he wanted to do was be in the mix. You a teenager, you looking at what all the older people doing that can fuck you up as a kid, like a city can groom you. I did understand what he was trying to say.

[C]

I mean, yeah, but that's. It's not just Atlanta specific. No, no, no. That's our culture.

[B]

Not at law.

[C]

That's the culture of hip hop. And what we grow up in, the music we listen to, the videos we watch, our neighborhoods, the things that we deem to be, you know, fun and things like that. That's, you know, that's part of it, man. I mean, I understand what he's saying. I wouldn't compare it to a pedophile, but I understand what 21 was saying. Yeah. Like, you know, it's saying Atlanta groomed them since they were kids. That's a real thing. New York did the same for me. I just always was blessed with discernment and, you know, something just wasn't. Didn't feel right. And I wasn't really into it. I wasn't doing it just. Cause everybody else was doing it. Like, I just always had that about me. But it's the same here in New York. Same thing. We hear about clubs and growing up, you hear all the rappers, all the dope boys and the athletes that go to certain clubs and then you see the girls going there then driving the cars. It's like, that's what I want. I want to do that and I want to go there, or I feel like I made it. Once I'm able to go to that club and get a table and you know what I'm saying, spend money in there and throw money in the strip club. That's not just Atlanta. That's. That's the most major cities.

[B]

Oh, absolutely.

[C]

Within our culture.

[B]

He was only speaking to his experience. But.

[C]

But I get that.

[B]

But yeah, yeah, New York definitely was that. But because it is New York and the biggest city, I think there was a little bit more. I don't want to say use the word security, but it's a little more tight knit just because it's New York. Like listening to Jay talk about his childhood in New Orleans and like. Like, if you get to the Deep south, though, like, they were doing at. I was like, they not doing that in the Bronx at 13. Like, yeah, y' all was doing wild at an extremely young age In. In the South.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, that's something. There's just less rules out there.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

So it's easier for a undeveloped brain to get into more. That's why I was like, damn. I'm actually kind of happy. It was. It was a little bit more secure up here.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Because they were doing. Atlanta probably is closer to New York than I think it would be with a New Orleans because they're also that type of shit. But, dawg, shit, Mississippi, Alabama, New Orleans, Florida, you was doing wild shit out there.

[C]

But I compare that same thing to gang culture. Yeah, that's manipulation and preying on kids for sure. Like when you got the OGs and the big homies and they see a kid that's 11 years old and they like, yeah, we gonna, you know, put them under the wing and groom them to be the big homie one day. You know what I'm saying? It's the same shit. It's not just with nightlife and things like that. It's same in gang culture. You got people that prey on kids and kind of poison their upbringing and have them believe that certain things are real and things like that. Then you get to a certain age and you realize, oh, I've been lied to the whole time. All of this shit is fake. All of it is toxic. All of it is detrimental to my health and things like that. Hopefully you get to that point early and you kind of pivot away from that lifestyle. But the overarching thing is, it's our culture. It's where we from. It's the streets. It's everything about the streets. It's the music. Everything that we're hearing now, we just said manifestation is real. First thing I do when I wake up is turn on fucking some hardcore rap shit and I'm in the shower and I'm spitting these crazy. That's my energy for the day now.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

You know what I'm saying? So now I'm moving around with this energy. And we don't pay attention to that because we think that it's just entertainment. And it's like, while it is entertainment, it does take on real energy and it can start to consume you. And now you're walking around with these emotions and these thoughts in your head and you didn't even realize, like, oh, shit, this is everything that I've been feeding myself over the years since a young kid, and now I'm an adult and I'm moving around with this energy. So gotta manifest. I get what he's saying. I get what 21 is saying. It's definitely something that. That I've always thought about and looked at. And there's a thing in our culture where we groom people from young to kind of take on this energy. And hopefully, again, it starts in the home. If you got the right foundation in the home and you got a mother or father and people that's teaching you right from wrong, and this is just entertainment. This is not the way you should walk around. And the energy you should take on, hopefully you have that. If not, it could end up bad for you. Yeah.

[B]

No. When did Big start bringing you around? Like, everybody, like in those situations like.

[C]

Clubbing or going out?

[B]

Josh asked, with your family, like Biggs and Rockefeller being started when you were younger, when did you start being brought around? Situations where maybe at your age, you had no business being around?

[C]

First time I went to a club, I was 16. I think it was Metropolis in Queens.

[B]

Okay.

[C]

And I believe it was the. What year did Hard Knock Life come out? 97.

[B]

Hard knock. I think 98. 98.

[C]

So it was around that time. And I remember, like, I was just. I was happy to be in the club with everybody else, like, finally seeing, like, grown women dressed nice and all the dope boys and rappers and Everybody. And I'm 16, 17 years old, ain't got no business in there. But again, for me, it was different because I was with my actual brothers and they wasn't gonna let me do no stupid shit. Wasn't gonna let me get involved in no dumb shit. But I could see how if I wasn't, I'd have been like, I'm in here every week, I'm not going nowhere. Like, this is. Cause that was everything, being a young kid. And it's like, I get to go back to school and tell all my friends, like, yo, shorty was in there, she had his dress on, titties was done. Big da da da. She pulled her titties out. It's like, you start thinking that that's like normal shit. And it's like, bro, that's a whole different world that will consume you if you allow it to. And then you take on that energy. But that was the first time for me seeing that, like, going to the club 16, 17 years old, just seeing everything that I had been hearing in songs. You know, popping champagne and, you know, girls kissing girls and. And, you know, shit like that. Like pulling up in big cars and you seeing the cars, these rappers.

[B]

Sounds like you were the man.

[C]

No, no, not me. I was just there witnessing this shit, you know, but seeing the cars that you would hear about in songs. And, you know, before I knew what a CL600 was, I had heard about it. And then when you finally see it, it's like, oh, shit, like, I want one of those. And you start seeing, you know, everybody got a Rolex on and big jewelry, and you seeing the type of attention these guys are getting from the pretty women. That shit starts, you be like, nigga fucks, I got math tomorrow. Fuck math.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

You know what I'm saying? I want to be around this type of shit, and it's a real thing. It'll be something that starts to move you away from the things that really matter, the important things if you want to be consumed by that lifestyle.

[B]

Demares, let's get back in our therapy bag. I think we made some headway here.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

For years, we've tried to explain to Mole that real women do exist. Not every woman is a gold digging thirst bucket that wants to be with an athlete or rapper.

[C]

I said that before.

[B]

Not in those words, per se, so.

[C]

I didn't say that.

[A]

But I feel all the time that y' all see yalls views on women are skewed. I'll tell you that all the time.

[B]

But I. I can see if one of your first experiences into your teenage years is being at a club where stereotypically, I'm not saying every woman, but stereotypically, a club woman might be one of those type of women that is there for the guy that has the. The car that pulls up, has the section. I could see you forming a view that this is what women like, if that's what you're introduced to at a very young age, where. Yeah, I was. I was in clubs when I was young, but not to. I wasn't with Biggs and Jay. So I was just there. I still had a view of the girl and, you know, third lunch in my. In my cafeteria.

[C]

Same Me too.

[B]

That, like, existed.

[C]

I just knew that there was another type of woman out there.

[B]

Yeah. It's like, I feel like maybe that that woman took over your brain as the generalization of. Of maybe how most women move.

[C]

No, that's not true. You like to put that on me. But no, sir, that's not how I think.

[B]

Okay.

[C]

I do think that if I'm talking to. That I'm speaking directly to that type of. Type of woman.

[B]

Okay.

[C]

I'm not saying all women are like that, because I don't. You know, I know. I know some women that are, you know, classy. They don't have a reputation out here. They have their own thing going on, real careers. Like, I know a lot of women like that. When I'm speaking to that. I'm talking. They know exactly the type of woman I'm talking about. That woman.

[B]

Oh, no. That woman exists.

[C]

Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. And I'm just saying, like, being around that, you know, it's hard to go back to school. And, you know the girl that you got a crush on, that she's wearing, you know, the long. Cause, you know, we had to wear uniform, but she got her dress down to here. On Saturday, I was at the Metropolis, and she had on two inches above a thing. You know what I'm saying? It's like, you know what I'm saying? I'm in school now. Like, man, y' all boring. You know what I'm saying?

[B]

Like, which, of course, it goes back to when we always talked. It's never changed your generation. My generation, when older guys would pick up girls at our high school.

[C]

Yeah. And it's like, that was a real thing.

[B]

That girl's not gonna come back and talk to me.

[C]

Listen, that was a real thing.

[B]

She was just in a car. She was in a car.

[C]

That was.

[B]

You know how crazy it was to be in a car?

[C]

Yes. Trust me, bro, that. That's a. That's a. That's a real thing. Growing up, she.

[B]

Older guys, he had his own place.

[C]

That's a real thing. It's like, yeah, but, boy, you.

[B]

When you in high school, girl. And it's wrong as I. I know we have to say that because you guys be in the com. It was disgusting. We think it's awful that that was a thing. But I can see a undeveloped teenage girl's mind thinking she's mature. And, like, I get to go to a place that he. There's no parents there. And I drove there. I could see a girl not wanting to come back to high school and talk to us. Yeah, why would she.

[C]

I'm not. Listen. I grew up with a lot of.

[B]

That, which is why y' all are nasty for manipulating young girls in high school. Y' all are disgusting.

[C]

Yeah, but we don't talk.

[B]

We don't talk about it from the. The undeveloped teenage mind. A girl.

[C]

Yeah, but you gotta speak to the. Speak to the family. News. The family be known that the nigga older that she dating.

[B]

Yeah, well, some didn't really have family.

[C]

Not always.

[B]

It was so easy for them to do that.

[C]

So it would not always mean.

[A]

Yeah, sometimes she did. Not always. I was dating. Been 10 years older than me. My parents had no clue.

[C]

Yeah, but. So not always. But you know some girls who was dating older guys, and they. Family knew. I know you knew that.

[B]

Yeah, that definitely happened. Which is nasty.

[A]

A specific demographic, but they.

[C]

I ain't saying nothing but a specific demographic.

[A]

You know what demographic about.

[C]

I know the demographic. I know exactly the demographic. I know the demo.

[B]

What's the demo?

[C]

In other news, Bobby Smurda was jumped.

[A]

Damn.

[C]

In Minnesota, I would have held.

[A]

Oh, in Minnesota?

[C]

Yeah. Bobby was in, I think, a nightclub in Minnesota and had a little fisticuffs, but, you know, Bobby held his own. Man, I don't know if they thought that they was gonna make Bobby look bad. Listen, you get jumped, and as long as you fighting back, it don't matter.

[A]

Mm.

[C]

You held your own.

[A]

You gotta fuck one nigga up.

[C]

That's all you got. See, but Bobby, he's supposed to dive on the first nigga and just bite his neck, right?

[B]

I'm really not mad at that at all.

[C]

The whole club would've emptied out. I would have walked out with that in my.

[A]

Like a. Like a newborn puppy.

[B]

You talking about.

[C]

I would have walked past security with that, like, come get this, man. What if.

[B]

If me, you, and Damaris went to jump somebody and I was the first one there and they bit me? I would walk like. Nah, guys. Nah, I'm cool.

[C]

Everybody, let's get out of here.

[B]

This ain't worth It. This ain't worth it.

[C]

You got a scream. They tried to make Bobby look bad. It's so. Listen, getting jumped is not a. That doesn't make you look bad.

[B]

I'm not. You don't even have to fuck somebody up. You just have to make it difficult. And in my opinion, you win. If you make it hard to jump you, then you won, man.

[C]

Bobby stood 10 toes. He ain't run from nothing. He did what he was supposed to do. Picked up. I don't know, what was that, a hookah?

[B]

He picked up anything in all of this.

[C]

Pick this shit up. What is this? The mixer, whatever, the fader. I'm picking all this shit up. I'm cracking. Yeah, we fucking all this shit up. Like, that's all you gotta do.

[B]

My name was Young Mike Stan for a long time.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Sometimes you just gotta pick up a.

[C]

Shout out to Bobby, man. Shout out to Bobby Schmurden, man. 10 words stand 10. That's 10 toes. Bobby. From now on, he ain't running from none of you. I. With Bobby, who's.

[B]

It's got to be too cold in Minnesota, I want to say.

[A]

Is he doing in the men right now?

[B]

Listen, get. Get a bag.

[C]

Hosting the parties there's.

[B]

In Minnesota. I'm just saying it's too cold to, like, because when fights break out, all the doors have to open. Security, like, and now everybody getting kicked out cold.

[A]

Everybody trying to call Uber at the same time.

[B]

They busy. Like, save this for the summer when.

[C]

They gotta go down so much. They gotta go down that I don't care what it's doing outside. And Bobby popped first. You saw him swing first. He's scared.

[B]

Sometimes when you realize you're about to get jumped, that's your best option is to swing first.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, oh, I see what's going on here.

[C]

Shout out to Bobby, man. But all jokes aside, hopefully Bobby stays safe, man. Moving around. Because there's all dudes out here looking to just get a rep and do some stupid for content. So make sure.

[B]

Which will pass in one week.

[C]

Keep Bobby.

[B]

You'll have one tick tock. That's like, yo, we the guys that jump Bobby. And It'll last for 24 hours.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Unless Vlad wants to interview them.

[C]

See, they mad. Cause Bobby just be dancing there, having fun. You know what I'm saying? He not on his. You know what I'm saying? Just trying to just chill. And here they come, trying to pull him back into that energy, into that life.

[B]

Listen, man, Bobby did seven years in Clinton, I think a bar with a tiki theme in Minnesota is. I think he knows how to handle himself.

[C]

So shout out to Bobby.

[B]

Man, doing a tiki bar in Minnesota is hilarious. Don't put bamboo in a min.

[C]

Is that what you want?

[B]

Stick to the Mighty Ducks theme and I'll be there.

[C]

It was a tiki bar.

[B]

Pull the video up.

[C]

Rory just be saying, you got to check that.

[A]

Yeah, you do got to check, Rory.

[C]

A tiki bar. What? You look at this.

[B]

It's bamboo.

[C]

And up there, that's not bamboo. See how fast Rory turned the whole spot? Yeah. Like, what is he talking about? All right, tiki bar. Who you talking about?

[B]

The bottom, it looked like. Yeah, come on. That looks like the tiki grass.

[A]

That's. That's curtains.

[B]

All right.

[C]

I don't know what that is.

[B]

Come on, man. You can't look at that real quick and think they're not going with the tiki theme?

[C]

Nah, man. That's just the decor.

[B]

A tiki decor. Anyways, Roy, you think you still know how to fight? It's been a while. I don't know.

[A]

You think it's like riding a bike?

[B]

No.

[C]

No, it's not.

[B]

I don't. I don't at all.

[C]

No.

[B]

I don't think that works.

[C]

Fighting is not like riding a bike. No, it is not. And you don't know that. It's not like riding a bike until you in a fight and realize that back leg give out. Like, it don't even try to plant. Yeah, you ain't do your box jumps. You ain't do your box squats in a long time. Like, you gotta keep that base strong.

[B]

After I ran Division one track, I took a break. Cause I was like, dude, I've been doing athletics my whole life. I just wanna chill for a little bit. And then when I went back to the gym, maybe like a year later, I tried to work out the way I worked out when I was a Division 1 athlete and played myself and hurt myself.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So I think now if I tried to fight, I would go with the same, like, muscle memory of what to do. And I don't know if the muscles would receive the message. Yeah, the same way.

[C]

Yeah. Nah, Fighting is not like riding a bike, baby.

[B]

D. My reactions are still there, but I don't know if. And I probably get winded. Like, I don't know. Adrenaline would have to really carry the fight. That's all I'll say. I would hope that adrenaline would carry her.

[A]

Were you used to reaching between somebody legs and slam them? I feel like if I went to do that. Now I'm gonna pull my back out for sure.

[C]

You better not try to lift nobody up, baby. You gonna tear all your whole left side trying to lift somebody up off the ground. You body slam somebody. You talking, baby did that. Ain't gonna go the way you think it's gonna go. I know in your brain you think that it's gonna go a certain way, that ain't gonna go the way you.

[B]

Feel, and that's what I'm saying. Like, I feel like I'm thought we're going to go a certain way.

[C]

That's not going to go the way you think.

[A]

I feel like, yeah, I'm.

[C]

I'm going.

[A]

Pull my back out.

[C]

Yeah, you going to definitely. You going to yourself up. Don't do that.

[B]

Yeah. Unless I'm anticipating the fight and I'm the one plotting, I don't know if it would go the way I think it would go at this point in my life.

[C]

And I really only got three combos.

[A]

What's your combo?

[C]

Like, if my three combos don't get you out of here, I don't know what I'm doing after that. Like, my next move is just going to be like, all right, we just got to just lock up and just stand.

[A]

Are you ever. But our Mortal Kombat and you trying to get the. Like, the more the fatality, but you can't figure out which buttons to hit. And you just like.

[C]

Like, yeah.

[A]

You just.

[B]

You start glitching sitting there. Yeah. Nothing come out.

[C]

Three combos. I got three combos. And if that don't get you out of the paint, that's when I just jump in the middle of the street and hope the police is coming. Like, after that, like, that's where I'm at. My Mortal Kombat characters. I was.

[B]

I love Scorpion.

[C]

Scorpion. Sub 02. Go to Raiden. Yeah, Raiden. Yeah. Yeah. I was a Raiden guy.

[B]

Well, I mean, what. I'm sure I never had, like, comp. Like, I didn't have a. A finishing move. You said you had three combos. I was just fighting. I was reacting.

[C]

Well, yeah, you gotta.

[B]

I know how to throw combos when I spar or anything like that. But I'm saying in a fight, I don't have, like. I'm literally just gonna duck. This is gonna be this up.

[A]

Up.

[B]

No, I'm gonna. I'm just gonna like, what's it. What's in front of my face?

[C]

You're like, floyd.

[B]

He said, matter of fact. I'm like, Floyd.

[C]

You like Floyd?

[B]

Maybe when you fight, everyone says, I'm like Floyd.

[C]

That's what's up. I can see.

[B]

I was good with the elbows, though.

[C]

Nah, you use all of that. Those is all.

[B]

Oh, no, no, no. What I would say would go to in close combat was never punching. It was always, always right here. I throw. Cause I don't weigh a lot.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

I throw my whole shoulder and hip into this elbow. You getting that shit right there.

[C]

You gotta use everything. Everything is a weapon.

[A]

Yeah, I'm a leg person. I got.

[B]

Because you can't when you're this close. Especially like a bar fight or something. Like, you can't even get the space to get a proper punch off.

[C]

So the marriage right here.

[A]

Fall.

[C]

You use your legs to kick the girl back. Like.

[A]

Yeah. If she go to get on top of you, you gotta kick her right in her vagina so she fly up in the air.

[C]

That kick her in a vagina.

[B]

That's the science, dude. And you know the anatomy of a woman.

[A]

You get somebody down and you get on top of them, you pin. You put your knees on their arms so that they can't. Can't fight back. You pin them down with your pin. Pin them down.

[C]

I've been watching too much world star.

[A]

What?

[C]

You know, world star fights. That's every girl in the hood. Yeah.

[B]

She has a picture of Sharkeisha in her home.

[C]

Where is Sharkisha?

[A]

Sharkeisha?

[C]

No Sharkisha. Yo, listen, bro.

[B]

Sharkeisha went to work.

[C]

That's still one of the hardest right hooks.

[B]

Oh, I get a headache watching it.

[C]

Yeah, I know.

[B]

Her head was ringing.

[C]

What did she end up doing with her life?

[B]

What you think that's a Dr. Phil moment? Like she put on?

[C]

Oh, she's a chef and entrepreneur.

[B]

See, yo, I. I like when people turn their life around.

[C]

Yeah, man. Look at Sharkesha open up restaurant. Urban Country Kitchen in Walnut Grove, Mississippi. And releasing a cookbook. Cooking is my therapy.

[B]

Leaving a seafood restaurant on the table, but that's. That's just leaving money on the table.

[C]

Shakisha.

[A]

Bye, Ori.

[B]

Sure. He's so corny. That's got to be a seafood restaurant from Sharkesha. No. As the name of the restaurant.

[C]

Well, no, they're in Mississippi, so you can't have a seafood. You're not going to do too well with a seafood restaurant in Mississippi.

[B]

What, you mean the river?

[C]

Yep. That's.

[A]

Man, get the.

[C]

The river is.

[B]

Just stay in the river is. Don't do that, cuz Mississippi is. Is right next to Louisiana. Like, they probably make really good and then what people. I'm sure southern Mississippi makes the same food that New Orleans makes.

[A]

Makes.

[B]

They have to. It touches the same.

[C]

It's a little different, though. New Orleans got some great.

[B]

You could. I'm sure you get some good Cajun food in southern Mississippi.

[C]

Get some gator. Is that considered seafood?

[A]

I had a good turkey boil when I was in Mississippi.

[C]

Gator's not seafood, right? That wouldn't be considered seafood.

[A]

No, that's not.

[B]

Well, then what would it be considered?

[A]

Swamp food.

[C]

Swamp food. Don't ever put no swamp food on my plate. Swamp food. Just saying swamp food is crazy.

[B]

I went to in Florida when this wasn't the fanboat I did in Louisiana. In Florida, I went to a. Not a fanboat thing, but one of those swamps. We ate like. It was like chicken nuggets. That was alligator and she was great.

[A]

Gator nuggets.

[B]

But it was a swamp. Like, they didn't get it from the shores of Australia where there's alligators in the sea. Like, it was just. It was a swamp for sure.

[C]

Swamp food I made worse. You're a swamp connoisseur. Look like it.

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All right, everybody, so it's time for Put Me on, sponsored by Walden University. Shout out to them. I am excited because I actually have an artist that I want to put you guys onto that I discovered recently.

[C]

When did you listen to them while you was home in your cell?

[A]

This is before. It was before, but I.

[B]

Does her name Mariah. The scientist.

[A]

No, her name is Charity, and I.

[C]

Came across her scientist, Charity. Soul in the family.

[B]

I actually don't see how Charity and science.

[C]

You don't. So you don't know enough about, you know.

[B]

My bad.

[A]

The hidden element. So I came across Charity's page on IG because she was doing kind of like a spoken word, like, uplifting type of thing. And she was talking about, you know, talking about lover girls and talking about how there's a place in the world for us and that we should keep it going and not to harden our heart and all of those things. So I was listening to that. So I went to go. She was like, you know, you can find the rest of this on Spotify. So I went to her Spotify thinking it would be, like, more spoken word. And it was actually an album. She released an album called Warm and Soft.

[C]

I know. That's right.

[A]

Yeah, but she's.

[B]

She's.

[A]

She's dope. I like her. I like her writing.

[C]

That's the only kind, as far as I'm concerned.

[A]

I like her writing. I think that that Rory, maybe even you, more. I think that you guys would like her music.

[C]

Where's she from?

[A]

From. I don't know where she's from. I will have to. I'm completely new to her.

[B]

And it's a full project or.

[A]

Yeah, the full project. It dropped October 17th of this year.

[C]

Her name is Charity.

[A]

Charity.

[B]

And does she spell it, like, different? Like in a cool way?

[A]

Nope, it's spelled just like regular chair.

[C]

Okay, well, let's Find out what she.

[A]

Yeah, she does. Like, good. Like, spoken word on ig. And I think that that was great. It was so much better than just, like, listen to my album or, like, you know, just giving a snippet of the music. Like, she. She. For every song on the album, she did a spoken word piece on IG that would make people want to go and see more of her. And then it's like, oh, like this same content you have in music form, so.

[B]

Gotcha.

[A]

So shout out to her.

[B]

All right, Charity. I'm definitely gonna listen to that. I, like, love a girl music.

[C]

You are. Love a girl.

[B]

I am a lover.

[C]

You are. I am, though, such a lover girl. The eyes.

[B]

Listen, it's the eyelashes. I don't think it's the eyes. I think it's the eyelashes. That's why I could never be tough. I just have. Have these eyelashes. No one's intimidated my guy Reggie, who everyone in this room at least knows. Reggie was on my first album. He was on a song called Enough with Jay Electronica. He was one of my favorite new artists in 2021, you know, Reggie took a break at a Child and is now releasing incredible music. I've been waiting for this day since 2021, for him to start putting out all the amazing music that I've heard. He's put out three singles in the last three months, all with the same artwork. So I assume this is for a bigger EP or a bigger project, but congrats. New headstone. And then last week, he dropped my favorite record sometimes. That's incredible. So Reggie, all lowercase R, e, g, g, I, e. He was also on my album. I think he's one of the most talented R and B artists, period. Like, he's. He's one of them. He's even won hop co signs.

[C]

Is he from Brooklyn?

[B]

No, he's from Houston, Texas.

[C]

Oh.

[B]

How I even found out about Reggie was because at the time, he was working with Maxo Cream's camp. So when they told me, yo, we got an artist I think you want to hear, I'm assuming it's. It's. You know, I love Maxo, but I'm assuming it's like some Crip. And then like, the most beautiful voice of all time comes on, I'm like, oh, all right. He had put out a record called Southside, which I played on the pod, and it was one of my favorite joints that year. Reggie is really, really dope. Directs his own shit. Super talented visually as well. I can't say enough about Reggie. His Colors performance is incredible. But, yeah, he's put music out again, and I couldn't be fucking happier.

[C]

Fire. I gotta check that out. All right, I'm gonna put y' all on to a new movie. Holiday time, Unexpected Christmas. I got l', Rel, Tabitha Brown, Anna Marie Horsford. I mean, you can't have a black Christmas movie without Anna Marie Horsford. She did all the Fridays. She was the mom in Friday. I don't know.

[B]

And I mean, I love l', Rel, too.

[C]

Yeah. Unexpected Christmas. Funny, funny, funny, funny movie. I think everybody will love it. Perfect movie for this time of year. Definitely give it a watch. And it's, you know, it's a black cast, so we gotta support that. Reagan, Gomez, Preston is in it.

[B]

What's the synopsis?

[C]

It's the, you know, family time. Everybody come back to the house. You know, secret love affairs and family secrets are revealed. You know that story. You know that story, Rory. We all know. We all love that movie.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

But this is, this was a good movie. This was a good watch. So if you got some time, definitely check out Unexpected Christmas.

[B]

No, I, I definitely will. And, yeah, I need a new one in, in the, the mix for, for holiday.

[C]

Yeah, that's a good movie. This is a good, this is a good.

[B]

A lot of repeats for a lot of years. Yeah, I definitely need to throw a new one.

[C]

This, did this felt. This is a good insert for a new Christmas movie, for sure.

[B]

Is this a Netflix thing or is this Prime? Prime. Okay.

[C]

Yeah. All right, check it out. On prom, Unexpected Christmas, and Lil Rel. You know, we support Lil Rel. Funny, funny guy. So, yeah, we were supposed to have.

[B]

Lil Rel on the show, but what was it, scheduling or something?

[C]

I, I hope we're busy, man. He probably was shooting this. Unexpected Christmas.

[B]

Famous working comedian.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Had to do.

[C]

Absolutely.

[B]

Prayers to everyone in Australia. Unfortunately, they had a mass shooting over the weekend. Prayers to the two students at Brown University that lost their lives to another mass shooting and everyone that was injured in both those incidents. It's unfortunate that this continues to be news like that. We're just so used to these things popping up, up every day in headlines with mass shootings. Like, we say this every time. So I, I, I got nothing at this point. Everyone has to do better. It's, it's, it's gotten crazy. Rest in peace. To, to Rob Reiner and Michelle Reiner, his wife. I, this happened when we were walking in. I saw that he passed, but then I saw on the list that allegedly his son had stabbed both of them.

[C]

Yes. His son. Son has been arrested.

[B]

Just heard about that part.

[C]

That's held on a $4 million bond. So pretty much he's the guy that killed his parents.

[B]

Yeah, that's. That's nuts. But rest in peace to a great director, a great actor, a great writer. Yeah.

[C]

Legend. Rob Reiner.

[B]

That's very, very, very wild. So, you know, prayers and condolences to everyone, family that was affected by everything that happened this weekend. And we can. We can get to voicemails. These are sponsored by Boost. Sorry for putting your name so close to, you know, stuff that's sad. But hopefully we have a voicemail that'll get the morale up and get us moving.

[C]

You've got mail.

[B]

So now my question is, what, man, have y' all ever cut somebody.

[C]

Hold on, Josh. Hold on.

[B]

That's what you want from me, man?

[C]

Yo, you see how Rory's whole mood changed when he can't get into a conspiracy. Y' all don't know. Rory just went on the whole rant, and we're not airing it because he went down a whole hole that we wasn't really.

[B]

Until I go down the hole about the Australia shit.

[C]

He was about to. But his whole mood just changed.

[A]

Cause we made him shut the fuck up.

[C]

Because we made him shut the fuck up and just give prayers and condolences to the victims of such tragic. Such a tragic weekend. Oh, I'm sorry, Josh. But yes, let's get into voicemails.

[B]

All right, so now my question is, have you ever cut somebody off for something that they did to somebody else? Like, not even something they did to you directly? So I have a friend that I grew up with that, you know, we was close, and. And he was actually a good friend, you know what I'm saying? He was always holding me down. Anything I needed, you know what I'm saying, was loyal, you know what I'm saying, was somebody I feel like I could confide in to a certain extent. But this nigga was such a liar. When I say liar, I mean little stuff from about his finances or things that he owned or experiences that he's had he would lie about to, like, bigger stuff. Like, he would lie on his dick when it came to, like, saying he certain girls. And to the point, the last straw was that he lied about an illness he had. And everybody was all worried, thinking something's gonna happen to him, come to find out that shit wasn't real. And it got to a certain point, I'm like, you know what? As much of A good friend as you are and you know, loyal as you are and all that. I'm like, if I can't trust your word or nothing, like I can't trust you. And I had to cut him off. So my question is, have y' all ever been in a situation like that where y' all cut somebody off even though they're there, good to you do, but you cut them off because of just how they move in in general? I've definitely cut people off.

[C]

Should have cut some off sooner.

[B]

I've definitely cut people off for how they've moved with other people before. But the biggest mistake that I've made more than once, it's not just one person. And you guys can't in the comments figure out what I'm talking about because it's, it's been more than once I have watched people do foul things to other people and thought in my head they won't do that to me and didn't cut them off. Off.

[A]

Idiot.

[B]

Yeah, no, I'm, I'm well aware of that. That mistake, I've made it more than once, which I guess at that point is not a mistake. You just need to change your behavior. But yeah, I've definitely thought, yeah, you do that to other people. They would never do that to me. Yeah, it happens. Then it just takes a few years.

[A]

If I see you're a bad friend to other people, immediate, I have nothing for you. I get disgusted. I have nothing for you. I don't, I do not do bad people. People like bad people. Oh, they would never do that to me. Or they, they know better than try that with me. I do not with bad people. When it comes to like when it comes to men, when it comes to friends, when it comes to anything. If you have bad personality traits and you're a disloyal person, I'm cool. I don't with it. I, I can't. I see because I'm too, I'm too good of a friend and I have two. Like, I have amazing friends. I can't have you over here sitting with these amazing ass people when you a up person just because you haven't me over yet.

[B]

Yet.

[A]

I don't like that. And if I tell you that you did some up and you don't know how to take accountability for it and change nothing for you. Not at this big ass age.

[B]

Well, sometimes I, I was always the person that, I don't think the word was, was naive per se, but I, I did give my friends a lot of credit and grace of what they were saying to me. I was not the person that would just always question their friends. So sometimes when I would see foul, they'd have an explanation for it. So I'd be like, like, all right, yeah. Because I don't know your character to be that. So. Nah. And then, you know, it ended up being like, nah, they did that. So I've been in that position too, where I was, you know. But back to being a lover girl, I still, like, want to give my friends grace and not think everyone's lying. Like, if you're my friend, I don't want to automatically assume you're lying. I don't ever want to be that person just because that's happening.

[C]

You have friends that you know are liars, though.

[B]

Oh, for sure.

[C]

Like compulsive liars now. Well, I don't know if they're your friends now, but you had.

[B]

Oh, for sure. 100. Yeah, no, absolutely. Now, I. I can't. I can't say that. To my knowledge.

[C]

Yeah, you don't know.

[B]

But that's what I'm saying. It's been multiple people that. Yes. Friends that have been compulsive liars. For sure.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

And I've seen them compulsively lie to other people. And I was like, well, you ain't lying to me.

[C]

My favorite is when, like, you have one of those friends that are compulsive liars and they're telling the story to somebody and you was there when they telling that story, and that's not how it happened. I love those people. I'm like, you know, you should go into film because that's not imagination crazy. Yeah, your imagination.

[B]

The way you're a screenwriter.

[C]

Yeah, you a screenwriter. The way you just freestyle that whole night. Like, that did not happen like that. But I love, you know, I love the enthusiasm and the flair that you brought to the story, though. But it's just not true.

[B]

Yeah, shit. You was there that one night, one day in la, right? Then we got the story back and he was like, that did not. I was standing there. That did not happen in la. One of my ex compulsive liar friends had turned a whole story around about how our interaction went.

[C]

Oh, yes, yes.

[B]

It was like, wait, whoa.

[C]

Did not happen like, what? Yeah, it did not happen.

[B]

Like, I was right there.

[C]

Yeah, yeah. Cut those people off, man. You got to get away from people like that.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Because it will bleed over somewhere lying about your ass too.

[B]

Well, I think people like that, at some point when you become a way. You become Expendable. To continue with their compulsive lying. They will eventually do that to you. Even if. Even if right now they're only lying to other people or being foul to other people. At some point your time will come because they have to continue this behavior throughout this. Because they're burning bridge after bridge. You're going to be the last bridge left and they're gonna have to. That's all they know.

[C]

Absolutely.

[B]

So. So you know. Yeah. Leave those people alone.

[C]

Get rid of them lying ass friends.

[A]

And also get rid of people who are not okay with confrontation. Get rid of people who are afraid of confrontation, even like lying.

[C]

Wait, wait, wait, wait. Why you want to get rid of people? Why you want to get rid of people that's afraid of confrontation?

[A]

Afraid of conference. I don't even want to say confrontation or conflict. Like people who avoid like where it is an issue. And if you like try to talk about the issue, they clam up, those people. But they feel comfortable being passive aggressive.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Or talking about it like behind your back. Dumb people. Not don't. What you afraid of? Like what. I'm not gonna hit you. What are you afraid of? Let's talk about. Let's not go through this person and. Well, this person said they don't really want to talk now. What's the issue? Because when you approach a person like that, they're. They can't lie. They can make themselves feel like the better person when they're talking to other people, but they can't lie to you when you know what the is going on. Like, what's really the issue. I don't like people like that. I don't do passive aggressive. I'm just aggressive. Let's talk about what the it is all that passive aggressive. I don't like that.

[B]

I was like, what do you need to lie to your friends?

[A]

I. I lie to my friends sometimes, but this is some.

[B]

Okay, but now I'm talking about like, not, not my phone was on do not disturb and I was taking a vow of silence over the weekend type of lie. Like, that's fine. You can have that type of lie. But like really lying to your friends, some things are not.

[C]

I'm just glad you said it because I wanted to say it, baby D, but I wasn't gonna say it.

[B]

It was too easy of a callback. I do believe that Demera said that over the weekend. I really do believe that. But I'm saying certain things is not your business.

[C]

I don't believe she was alone, but I believe she was Home.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. Don't do that.

[C]

I said I believe you was home.

[A]

Don't. Don't do that.

[C]

Don't do that.

[A]

Sometimes. Sometimes I don't know for sure.

[C]

I don't know what you doing. I didn't speak to you since Thursday. I don't know what you mean.

[A]

People listen to this podcast. I was alone.

[C]

I. I don't know that I'm saying. I don't think you are alone. Alone.

[B]

I think she.

[C]

I don't know what she was doing.

[B]

I think she was alone. Thank you.

[C]

Okay, cool.

[B]

I actually believe I was really just making a callback joke around a lot of people. Like, why I love Damaris as a friend is that I. Like, I can tell her the truth about everything because there's certain I want to keep to myself. But you got to speak to people about it sometimes. Like when you're going through something like, you don't need to lie to your friend. That's why they're your friends. Tell them the truth. Yeah, they'll hold it down if it's foul, too. And if your friends, yo, I did this. All right? You're stupid. Thank you for telling me. How do we get you out of this?

[A]

Quiet. If your friends that talk all the time suddenly get quiet, it's because they don't want to lie to you. They'd rather be quiet than lie to you. Yeah, Rory go missing, I'd be like, he doing some shit he don't want to explain to me, and that's fine. I'll be here when he's ready to talk.

[B]

No, I was taking a vow of silence in my house. Oh, okay.

[A]

I bet you weren't alone either, right?

[B]

I was not alone this weekend.

[C]

Oh, shit. Oh, shit.

[A]

I was alone. But okay.

[B]

I have Mara every day.

[C]

Ah, that's day one. That's day one. They go, no, you're right. You're right.

[B]

But that's not a lie.

[C]

You're a great and present dad.

[B]

That's not what I try to get at.

[C]

No, no, no.

[B]

Sometimes I don't want to be his present.

[C]

No, no, no, listen, I get it. I get it.

[B]

Sometimes I'm just like, yeah, I'm not fighting you.

[C]

I'm not the irs. I'm not going to fight you.

[B]

This is why you're my friend. I can tell you the truth. Sometimes I'm like, yo, I don't want to be his president.

[C]

I don't want to be a good dad. Like, I hear my daughter crying.

[B]

I don't want to get up. I'm Exhausted.

[C]

Yeah, no, I feel you. I definitely feel you on that. All right. Baby D was we got you out your lair and you finished your Lucifer ritual and watching whatever it was that you were watching.

[B]

I got blackout curtains too.

[C]

Yeah, I mean, I understand. This is something about, you know, just a gray weekend and blackout curtains and you missed it.

[B]

I was so excited when I woke up Sunday morning and looked out my window and saw the snow.

[C]

Were you kid?

[A]

Yeah, nigga, I'm from upstate New York.

[C]

I was like, oh, this ain't shit. Yeah, yeah.

[B]

But the last, like, I don't know, five to seven years, we haven't gotten crazy. Like we've had a few snowstorms, but when I was a kid, it snowed all winter.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Global warming, baby. Welcome.

[B]

So, yeah, I was really excited to see the snow.

[C]

All right, well, listen, man, I'm happy you got to see some snow. I'm happy Baby D got to, you know, do what she do.

[B]

Okay.

[C]

He said the white stuff is.

[B]

No, Eric Adams is going out with a bang. He was, Was he, Was he on like the Coney Island. Coney island boardwalk, you know that white stuff coming through.

[A]

Nah, he gotta stop. He has to stop.

[C]

He know what he doing.

[A]

Yeah, at this point, he know what he doing.

[B]

He took a $12 million. He about to retire to the sunset and say whatever the he wants.

[C]

Yeah, he knows.

[B]

I admire that, man. Now, I was angry before, but that's. That's a good business plan.

[C]

All right, well, listen, Baby D, it's good seeing you.

[A]

Yeah, we got some shit to talk about. Off air. Wrap this up.

[B]

Oh, yeah, that is true.

[C]

Oh, shit. Okay, I don't know what we gotta talk about, but fuck it. Let's go. All right, y'. All Be safe, be blessed. I'm that nigga. He's just ginger.

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