Episode 438 | Squatters Rights

Summary

New Rory & MAL — Episode 438 | Squatters Rights

Release Date: January 6, 2026
Hosts: Rory, Mall, Baby D (+ guests/crew: Josh Whand, Peach)
Podcast: iHeartPodcasts and The Volume

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Episode Overview

The first episode of 2026 is an irreverent, laugh-heavy session with classic Rory & Mal banter. The crew recaps their holidays (amid plenty of jokes about aging and changing habits), discusses new music drops and the state of rap beef, teases out some cultural debates (from wedding traditions to "freak ho" etiquette), and debates the validity of getting aroused by your friends having sex nearby. As ever, there's plenty of New York nostalgia, horndog tomfoolery, and sharp takes on music and internet culture.
Main Theme: Kicking off 2026 with personal resets, music predictions, the Fab vs. 50 saga, and a wild listener question that gets the crew deep in their TMI bag.

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1. Ringing in the New Year: Aging, Holidays, and Sober Family Time

[01:58–17:13]

• Reflecting on 2026:
  • The hosts marvel at how "2026 feels like a Jetsons year" and joke about feeling old when younger people refer to them as being born in "the late 1900s."
    • “You know what’s crazy? Kids are calling people born in the 90s the ‘late 1900s.’ I was like, all right, man…” — Rory [02:40]
• Holidays and Aging:
  • Mall spent time with family and "old buddies," observing everyone's getting "a little rounder" and lamenting how their street-running days are long gone.
  • Rory’s New Year’s Eve: failed FaceTime hangout as most friends were already asleep by 11pm, leading to ribbing about getting old.
  • Rory reacts to NYE Twitter headlines about Jadakiss being in Times Square without security:
    • “You think Jadakiss is scared of Times Square on New Year’s Eve? He walked School Street!” — Rory [05:13]
• Low-Key Celebrations:
  • Both hosts spent NYE and Christmas chilling at home, cleaning, and embracing quieter rituals—Mall FaceTimed his praying sister, joked about napping through the prayer.
  • Rory "awkwardly" has his first family Christmas as a sober Irishman: “I feel like I actually got to know my parents for the first time in 34 years.” [06:56]
  • This segues to the insight that, in some families, alcohol is what prompts all the year's suppressed issues to burst out at dinner: “…an Irish Tyler Perry dinner scene.” — Rory [07:00]

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2. Resolutions & Vices: Smoking, Drinking, and Party Debates

[07:32–18:34]

• Resolutions:
  • Mall claims he's not smoking in 2026 (“Five days, new me, five days!”), which everyone doubts.
    • “I haven’t smoked… five days new me, five days.”—Mall [07:37]
• Smoking and the Pod:
  • Baby D jokes that Mall is more fun high or drunk: “I like drunk Maul, drunk’s Maul is my favorite.” [08:36]
  • They reminisce about Mall "rizzing up" B. Simone at Rory’s house—with jokes about loading up a “rizometer” on the next re-upload.
• Almost New Year’s in Belize:
  • Mall and Rory almost went to Belize for NYE for "work" (content), but the "court shut it down." The excitement was really about face-timing their group from Belize to cause chaos.
• Day Parties, Sobriety, and Hookah:
  • Discussion of R&B day parties for Founders Day. Rory admits he needed to pregame to handle social anxiety (“If I went in there dead sober, I probably would have walked out…” [16:47]).
  • Hookah is out of favor:
    • “Yo, hookah sucks.” — Rory [18:01]
    • Jokes about “men can’t do smoke tricks unless you’re in high school.”

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3. Music & Culture: Releases, Predictions, and Rap Beef

[26:35–55:55]

Doechi x SZA, Album Cycles & Predicting The Year in Music

[26:35–31:15]

• Rory’s Music Predictions:
  • Triumphant about predicting Doechi and SZA’s collab; expects it to be a slow-burn to #1, loves the record’s “girl motivation” vibes.
    • “It did what it was supposed to do outside of Doechi rapping really well and it being a good song. It got people talking…” — Rory [29:26]
• On Doechi’s Cycle:
  • TDE may have more records with SZA; Mall and Rory debate if Doechi will drop an album in Q1 or is just dropping singles.

Hit-Boy Studio Robberies & Security

[35:24–40:20]

• Hit-Boy’s Studio Burglarized 3x:
  • Concerns over repeated break-ins (“It takes 70 of y’all to break into a recording studio?” — Rory [37:09]); theories that it’s jewelry or cash they’re after, but in reality it's “real loser ass shit.”
  • Mall questions the studio’s security: “If they keep burglarizing…we gotta move!”

Fab, 50 Cent, New York Rap, and "Squatters Rights"

[40:43–55:55]

• Recap of Beef:
  • Fab, Jim Jones, Dave East, and Maino dropped responses to 50 Cent’s “squatter” taunts over property battles.
• Fab’s Status:
  • Mall argues Fab is the most underrated NY rapper:
    • “Fab has been consistently in conversations…giving us verses over almost 25 years, probably.” [41:31]
  • Debates Fab’s album catalog vs Jadakiss and Styles P; consensus is Fab has a better discog if you count mixtapes.
  • “Fab was jogging. That’s like a layup line.”—Mall [47:02]
• 50 Cent’s Likely Response?
  • They doubt 50 will rap back; he's more focused on “business pettiness” these days (buying the studio rather than replying on wax).
  • “He’s in the world of, like, he’s going to buy the block you record your show in. He now owns that block. Y’all pay him rent.”—Mall [50:15]
• NY Real Estate Petty Wars:
  • Rory’s take: “Buying my studio, I would just go get another studio. That wouldn’t bother me that much.” [55:08]

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4. Listener Voicemail Deep Dive: Sex, Voyeurism & Boundaries

[95:41–113:54]

• Scenario:
  • Listener Taylor calls in: She and her girl stayed over at a friend’s for NYE; her friend loudly had sex with her boyfriend in the next room, which aroused Taylor. Taylor wanted to hook up with her own partner, who shut her down. She ended up masturbating and wonders: is getting aroused by your friends having sex (or the sounds of sex) weird?
• Group’s Reaction:
  • Strong gendered split:
    • Mall & Rory: For men, it’s weird to get turned on by “your homie’s girl’s moans.”
      • “That's a little... that's kind of crazy.” — Rory [98:28]
      • “That's wild… That’s my friend's girl!” — Mall [109:18]
    • Baby D: For women, less weird; women’s friendships and comfort with nudity, intimacy, and even being naked around each other are different; sound can be an arousal trigger; also, context matters (close friend vs mere associate).
  • Arguments over definitions:
    • Baby D: “You can't choose when you're aroused. You can choose to act on your arousal, but not when it happens.” [106:01]
    • Mall: “I think you choose to get aroused in that moment…”
• Final Consensus:
  • If you have sexual feelings towards a close friend’s partner, acting on them is a major boundary issue.
  • Group agrees: for a friend to beat off with their partner next to them who isn’t interested is also out of pocket, but not as wild as doing it without consent.
  • Side tracks into whether men would let a “fine” homegirl watch them have sex; Mall & Rory both say, with caveats, “maybe” if attraction is present.

Notable Quotes

• “If you're Taylor's friend and find out you was poppin' off to me having sex, and you're just a straight woman that's just friends…I feel like the friend would feel like 'yo what you doing?'” — Rory [104:33]

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5. Weddings, Traditions, and Walk-Out Songs

[81:22–92:48]

• Viral Video Reaction:
  • Discussion of a groom walking out to Lil Wayne’s “I’m Going In” for his wedding processional, and how it didn’t “go over” as he’d imagined.
  • “You thought everyone was gonna rap along… He’d been thinking about this for years!” — Rory [82:20]
  • “If y’all ever find somebody to deal with you… Just don’t walk out to that.” — Baby D [87:49]
• Wedding Traditions:
  • Mall wants his groomsmen in Jordan 11s; Baby D calls this tacky, wants men in “hard bottoms like an adult.”
  • Cultural comparisons — Rory shares his Irish dad’s wedding photo, everyone in Irish caps (“That’s their Jordan 11s”).
  • “For the woman, just shut the fuck up and make it her day… The wedding is for the woman.” — Rory [85:23]
• Bachelor/Bachelorette Mishaps:
  • Stories about pre-wedding bar brawls; depiction of a very Bronx/Irish point of view.

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6. Internet Culture: Going Viral, Streamer Drama & Vulnerability

[67:02–77:56]

• Do We Care About The Internet?
  • Rory admits he thought he didn’t care until 2025—“I found out in 2025 that I care about the Internet.” [67:06]
• Viral Negativity:
  • The group notes positive viral moments always turn negative quickly (e.g., critiques called “set up,” “fake,” etc.).
  • “You gotta pay $10,000 to go viral. That's what it boils down to.” — Mall [68:32]
• Kai Cenat Heartbreak & Young Men:
  • Streaming star Kai claims he’ll “never be in a relationship again” after a breakup. The guys joke “that’s such a 22-year-old thing to say."
  • Mall: Best advice for heartbroken young men = “Welcome to the gym, go work out.” [75:36]
  • Rory: “When I got my heart broken the first time… all the older people would say, ‘this is going to happen again’… My brain took that as, well, now I really don’t want to be in a relationship again.” [76:17]

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7. Miscellaneous and Wrap

[112:59–119:13]

• Voyeurism Recap:
  • Side note: not everyone is a true voyeur just because they watch porn—most voyeurs “really want to watch live, often unattractive, sex,” which the crew finds repulsive.
• Squatter’s Rights in Law:
  • They discuss how wild it is that squatters’ rights still exist (“I thought they would have gotten rid of that when they got rid of burning witches in Salem…” — Rory [58:44]).
• Wiz Khalifa Legal Trouble:
  • News snippet on Wiz Khalifa’s brief Romanian incarceration; calls for U.S. not to trade “the world’s most dangerous” for weed arrests:
    • “Stop going to these weird countries with these weird drug laws! Leave the vape at home.” — Mall [118:32]

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• “If you type out their lyrics, it does look wack sometimes… They do that to Big Sean sometimes.”—Rory, on internet meme culture [47:55]
• “That’s ‘the Riz-ometer’ for sure.” — Rory, about Mall and B. Simone [09:04]
• “Burp. Put burping in my face is crazy.” — Rory, after Baby D goes off the rails [15:34]
• “That’s crazy...sucking too hard on a hookah, I’m not gonna lie… That’s not really my…like,” — Baby D [18:53]
• “How many random little charges hit you every week?...Somehow you bought a plant that you don’t even like.”—Rory, parodying ad fatigue [33:14]
• “I want to go viral for positivity.” — Rory [67:54]
• “If you find a friend attractive… I don’t think that’s weird.” — Baby D [104:01]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• New Year’s reflections, getting older: [01:58–06:56]
• NYE, Christmas family awkwardness: [05:35–07:32]
• Mall’s no-smoking resolution: [07:32–08:15]
• High/Drunk Mall is the best: [08:15–09:14]
• Almost Belize NYE trip: [09:36–11:07]
• Raj hookah & club etiquette: [17:01–19:39]
• Music Predictions (Doechi/SZA/TDE): [26:35–31:15]
• Hit-Boy burglarized: [35:24–40:20]
• Fab vs. 50 & NY Rap: [40:43–55:55]
• Listener Voicemail: arousal & boundaries: [95:41–113:54]
• Wedding viral moment debate: [81:22–92:48]
• Internet/going viral/Kai heartbreak: [67:02–77:56]
• Voyeurism & peeking out windows: [115:45–116:09]
• Wiz Khalifa in Romania: [117:58–119:13]

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Tone & Style

• Language and Tone: Fast, irreverent, conversational, alternating between New York sarcasm, deep musical analysis, and overshared anecdotes.
• Dynamic: Mall is the deadpan realist and reluctant traditionalist; Rory is the neurotic raconteur; Baby D is the wild card, unafraid of TMI.
• Pacing: The show leaps rapidly, often interrupting ad reads with jokes and quickly pivoting from music nerdery to raunchy or heartfelt confessionals.

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For First-time Listeners

This episode is a classic example of Rory & MAL’s blend: unfiltered group chat energy, music/culture news, generational reflection, and the kind of “should I be aroused by this” phone calls you only get from this crew’s audience.
If you like:

• “Should I feel old yet?” convos
• Riffs on family awkwardness, rap nerd arguments, and “real talk” about boundaries/relationships
• The inside baseball of New York music and rap culture
  —you’ll find plenty to enjoy.

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Memorable Moment:

• “So you got to make your belly buttons connect. That’s how you get to know someone.” — Mall, on the values of belly-to-belly sex [116:26]

Transcript

[Baby D]

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[Mall]

No worrying.

[Rory]

Happy 2026. Welcome back. It's a whole new year.

[Mall]

I was trying to give you some like effects.

[Rory]

Oh yeah, I appreciate it.

[Mall]

I wanted, I wanted to sound like it was like 20 people. Yeah, the studio.

[Rory]

No, you know, splice is enabled now too. So you had a great break just like me. You have all the sound effects.

[Mall]

All the sound effects. We are back 2026, Rory.

[Rory]

It does like that. Feels like a Jetsons year.

[Mall]

20.

[Rory]

You're much, much, much older than Me, like, light years.

[Mall]

Yeah, you, like, years older than you.

[Rory]

20, 26. I still feels like futuristic to me. I can only imagine someone born in the 1960s.

[Mall]

I. In the 1900s.

[Rory]

I saw a tweet over the break that someone said the young kids are calling people born in the 90s, the late 1900s. I was like, all right, man. I wasn't born in the late 1900s.

[Mall]

But you was born in the late 1900s.

[Baby D]

Shoot. When he's little.

[Mall]

Y N. Yeah, yeah, I was born. We was all born in the late 1900s. Okay.

[Rory]

How was your break?

[Mall]

It was cool, man. Spent some time with the fam. Saw some friends that I haven't seen in. In a little while. Caught up with some of my, you know, old buddies and like that.

[Rory]

Old buddies?

[Mall]

Yeah, old buddies, man. Everybody's getting older, man. Seeing all my friends, a little rounder in. Yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying? It's like, damn. That's what you be doing now in your off days. You know, it's funny when you see, like, dudes you used to run the streets with, and then you see them as, like, grown men and then seeing, like, what they doing.

[Rory]

Citizens.

[Mall]

Yeah. Like this. What you do. Like, when you ain't got no, like, gotta work. You just be like, this. What you want? Like, yeah, this is it. This is all I got. Yeah.

[Rory]

I tried to do, like, a FaceTime with, like, the three high school friends that I still talk to on New Year's Eve. Two out of three were already asleep. Yeah, this was at, like, 11:00pm you got it. It was just the waiting shit. The whole time. We was like, they not even going.

[Mall]

People that fall asleep before the ball drops scare me, though. Like, how do you. One is a father can not stay up.

[Rory]

What's crazy is one of them is in Tucson, Arizona. So he was three hours behind us in his sleep.

[Mall]

Wow.

[Rory]

I was like, all right, man.

[Mall]

Sleep at 8. I don't trust you.

[Rory]

Yes.

[Baby D]

That's kind of what I with it.

[Rory]

Nah, sleep at 8.

[Mall]

Nah, I don't trust you. If you sleep at 8pm the news ain't even on yet. You don't even know what's going on in the world yet.

[Baby D]

That's cool. I'll see it. I'll see it at 5am When I wake up.

[Mall]

Nah, man, I don't saw it with.

[Rory]

Fox and Friends in the morning.

[Mall]

Yeah, you gotta see Ryan Seacrest at midnight on New Year's. You have to.

[Rory]

You actually don't, though.

[Mall]

You don't have to, man. If you're in New York. You have to.

[Rory]

I mean, I feel like when Steve Harvey and Gronk took over, that that could have been like, I could have cut the staple. But I mean, then he smashed the Lego Steve Harvey, and it was. Their relationship was over.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Rory]

That was probably my favorite moment in recent Times square memory.

[Mall]

Seeing 2026 on the ball drop was just like, it was crazy just seeing that number. Like, you don't. You never thought. I never thought I would see that number.

[Baby D]

Yeah, I never thought I would see.

[Mall]

That like, in real life. Like, imagine being in high school in the 90s and then, you know, you set the right. The year.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mall]

2026. I thought we would all be dead in 2026.

[Rory]

And speaking of Times Square, New Year's Eve. This is why I hate young hip hop Twitter. I'm starting out as an old man hating out the gate. All the headlines on Twitter were, Jadakiss is in Times Square with no security. Jadakiss used to go to Skate Key with no security. They thought it was the craziest thing. That kiss would be in Times Square on New Year's ev with no security.

[Mall]

Jadakiss walked. He walked School Street.

[Rory]

Exactly. You think Jadakiss is scared of Times Square on New Year's Eve?

[Mall]

Yeah. I don't understand how people thought that was such a big deal. Like, Jadakiss is walked even he was joking, yo.

[Rory]

No security. Like, bro, he's joking.

[Mall]

Much tougher streets than Times Square. Like, are you kidding me?

[Rory]

But you didn't do anything at all. I literally just watched the Knicks and ball drop and I went to sleep.

[Mall]

No, I didn't do nothing, man. I was in the house, you know, just cleaned up, you know, did all of that throughout the day. Cleaned everything and got rid of a lot of stuff. You know, going into the new year, you kind of, you know, just old rituals you do did that. I was going to link up with a few of my friends, but then I was just like. For what? To just come straight home after? Like, it was just like, I'm just chilling the crib. So I was home.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mall]

FaceTime. My sister and my nephew. New Year's. Okay. My sister, you know, she's holy. Rolling the church. He prayed.

[Rory]

I like it.

[Mall]

So I did, you know, I had to act like I was praying too. You just close your eyes.

[Rory]

She's seen combat. She has a closer relationship with the Lord than you.

[Mall]

Yeah, I just took a quick nap. That was a quick 30 second nap while she prayed, but that was it. Yeah, Just bought it In a new year.

[Rory]

Christmas, too, was just chilling. I had a very, very calm break, which I needed and loved. Yeah.

[Mall]

Spent a lot of time chilling, relaxing, get some rest.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mall]

And that was it, man.

[Rory]

Yeah. I had to awkwardly break to my family that Christmas Eve and Christmas would be sober this year. Like, my mom was like, yo, you want to stop by liquor storing? It's like, nah. She was like, all right. Do you want me to go? I said, nah. She was like, all right. So what are we gonna drink?

[Mall]

Nothing.

[Rory]

There's seltzer water in the fridge.

[Mall]

Yeah, yeah.

[Rory]

Raspberry lime, I think it is.

[Mall]

It's flavored too.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Rory]

So nothing is more awkward than a sober Irish holiday.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Rory]

I feel like I actually got to know my parents for the first time in 34.

[Mall]

Like, what did everybody do?

[Rory]

It was cool. It was just. It was quiet. It was calm. I realized that everybody thought they were a lot of my family. We suppress things naturally, and alcohol will. Everything you were thinking of the whole year will explode at dinner time. It's like an Irish Tyler Perry dinner scene.

[Mall]

So I had nothing to talk about.

[Rory]

It was. It was just like, so how's Mars Counting? It was so. But I was, like, thriving and loving the awkwardness. Like, it was so fun to just watch adults have to be themselves. Yeah, it was weird.

[Mall]

That's funny. I decided that I'm not smoking 26.

[Rory]

I don't believe that shit.

[Mall]

I haven't smoked five year new me five days.

[Baby D]

Do a dry January, but this nigga right here is going to do a fucking on high fucking whole year. All right, cool.

[Mall]

But, right, I've gone four years without smoking before.

[Rory]

Yeah, 30 years ago.

[Mall]

No, was it. That's not hard for me to do.

[Baby D]

Okay.

[Mall]

Like, to stop smoking. It's really not hard.

[Baby D]

Like, well, what you gonna do to supplement? Cause smoking be balancing out your mood. I ain't really got too much for you if you ain't smoking. What you mean?

[Mall]

I never smoke before I see you.

[Baby D]

You don't smoke in the morning?

[Mall]

No. Hell no. Oh, I'm not waking bake. I don't do that. Nah, I've never been that guy.

[Rory]

But high more on the pods the few times we have him is one of my favorite. Like, I wouldn't mind if you did.

[Mall]

A little wake and bacon, but I'll smoke here. Like on, you know, on Patreon. Sometimes I would. But like, before I come to the studio in the morning. So I never smoke.

[Rory]

You get high mall with a girl here?

[Baby D]

Nah, he gonna be too cool.

[Rory]

That's Wilt Chamberlain punted points. We just saw the footage over the break.

[Baby D]

Cancel each other out. He gonna be too cool. I don't wanna see high maul risen up. No chick like. Nah, I need silly maul. I like drunk ma. Drunk's maul is my favorite.

[Mall]

All right. Can I ask you this though, Baby D, when have you ever seen me rizz up a chick? Baby, just get like. When have you ever. Baby D. See me, like. Yeah. Documented in his wrist bag. When have you ever seen that in.

[Rory]

My house with B. Simone. That wasn't crazy. The Riz. Me. The Riz. The Riz. Riddler meter was nuts.

[Mall]

No, that was me.

[Rory]

That was rizometer for sure.

[Mall]

Oh, that was friends. That was Friends.

[Rory]

We made. We have. We should probably re upload that and put the rizometer next to it as. As the episode progresses. You just. I wasn't.

[Mall]

That's a friend, man. That don't count. That's friends.

[Rory]

Gotcha.

[Mall]

That's friends. We were just catching up on the couch. That was it. That was like real time. Y' all would just let in on that. Like, the cameras just happened to be.

[Rory]

It was my house.

[Mall]

Yeah. Just happened. But we just happened to set up the cameras.

[Rory]

Thank you for opening your doors to me.

[Mall]

We just happened to set up the cameras. Like, that's how the conversation would have went without the camera.

[Rory]

Yeah. We didn't plan for an episode.

[Mall]

Nah, nah, nah. Come on, man. You know, this is us, man. This is us, baby.

[Rory]

Me and Peach almost went to Belize for New Year's.

[Mall]

Almost.

[Rory]

Almost.

[Mall]

How do you.

[Rory]

There was like a 98 chance. The court shut it down. But me, Me and Peach was about to just be in Belize for 48 hours.

[Mall]

The court shut it down.

[Rory]

Yeah. Which. Well, I'll tell you off, Mike.

[Mall]

Okay.

[Rory]

No, we. We was about to be out. We was about to be on the compound going nuts with our spf.

[Mall]

Oh, my gosh.

[Rory]

I like, I was more excited. Not. It was for work purposes. We were going to shoot some stuff down there. I was more excited to just facetime the group with me and Peej. Like, not tell y' all anything.

[Mall]

Two of the panels, y' all would.

[Rory]

Have been two of the spots without the eyes out.

[Mall]

Oh, God, I'm so glad that got canceled. That's just disgusting to bring in a new year like that.

[Rory]

And I sent P the most. The wildest text like, yo, you want to go to Belize tomorrow? And he said, sure. Didn't ask any follow up questions, Nothing.

[Mall]

Can we see how many Flights have left Kansas headed to Belize. I don't think no flight has ever.

[Rory]

Left Kansas City to Belize. He said yes. And his only follow up was, was let me know so I could pack up the equipment.

[Mall]

Okay, that makes sense, though. We was ready.

[Rory]

We was ready. We was gonna shoot something.

[Mall]

Yeah, that makes sense if it's worth. But I just wanted to, like, to know how many flights leave Kansas City to Belize.

[Rory]

Oh, I, I, I budgeted everything.

[Mall]

Is that one once a week? Like, you gotta catch one flight a week.

[Baby D]

Once a week is who the fuck.

[Mall]

Is going to Belize from Kansas City?

[Rory]

And I'm so ignorant. I didn't even realize how big Belize was. I just thought there was, like, one airport. Then I go to the map. I'm like, I should probably figure out where we're shooting to.

[Mall]

Where you gotta make sure you land.

[Rory]

Like I said, near Belize City, but.

[Mall]

Oh, there's actually a flight, what, every other hour? Oh, I didn't know that.

[Baby D]

Moving drugs.

[Mall]

It's Kansas, Yo. Peaches, is the airport in Kansas? Is that like a. It's an international airport. Oh, okay, then. Yeah, that makes sense. I'm seeing all these flights. They got to be international.

[Rory]

What? Airports are not.

[Mall]

JFK's not. I mean, LaGuard is not international.

[Rory]

Oh, yeah, that's true. So, yeah, I was about to have a crazy New Year's Eve, but it, it ended up falling apart.

[Mall]

Yeah, I'm glad. I'm glad that y' all didn't.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mall]

End up going to Belize. That's too much.

[Rory]

No, I would have been fun. Yeah, they want to Belize for 24 hours is hilarious.

[Mall]

No, it sounds like a great time. I just, Just, like, y' all pale.

[Rory]

We would have spent more time in the air than we would have, like, in Belize. Yeah, and it would have been worth just FaceTiming you guys of like, yo, what the are y' all doing?

[Mall]

Yeah, that would have been nasty. Baby D, how was your holiday? How was your break? I missed you.

[Baby D]

You a liar.

[Mall]

I tried to get it off. I'm sorry.

[Baby D]

Yeah, I hate when a lie to me no more.

[Mall]

That 26, Baby D. Yeah, we not. I'm about to say 26.

[Baby D]

Ain't no more niggas lying.

[Mall]

I got, I'm telling you right now, I got my list of things I better not hear you saying in 2026.

[Baby D]

What's the list?

[Mall]

Nah, I'm just. When you say it, I'm gonna say that's on the list.

[Baby D]

You can't just.

[Mall]

I don't want to hear that no more.

[Baby D]

Saying, oh, I knew that. I knew you was gonna guess seven. Like. No, the. You didn't. What was your number? You had to tell me.

[Mall]

Listen, it's just certain things I don't want to hear from you in 2026, okay? And when I start to see that you look like you about to say it, I'm gonna stop you. I'm like, don't even. But how was your holiday? How was your break?

[Baby D]

It was awful, but thank you for asking. You know, life goes on.

[Mall]

Life does go on. All right, that's baby D in 2026.

[Baby D]

Clap it up. Clap it up for life.

[Mall]

Clap it up for life. Baby D is so depressed.

[Rory]

Mo, there's a reason why I just asked you how to do your breakup.

[Baby D]

Yeah, like, what the fuck?

[Rory]

I was going to just skip over that because I already knew that.

[Mall]

You can't skip over Baby D. But.

[Rory]

I've talked about you, though.

[Mall]

You know that. Obviously, our prayers are with you. So. You and the family. So. Yes.

[Rory]

Nobody has wished me a Happy Founder's. Happy Father's Day. To the greatest fraternity in the entire world.

[Mall]

Kappa Lambda Lambda Lambda.

[Rory]

No. Kappa Alpha Psi Fraternity Incorporated. Where am I? Indiana University. In my scroll are green today.

[Mall]

That's where it started, right?

[Rory]

Yes.

[Mall]

Is that the villain origin for the Kappas? Indiana University?

[Rory]

I wouldn't call it a villain origin. They were ten God fearing names.

[Mall]

You didn't know how the fraternity started. Somebody didn't get picked up for the pickup game. He got mad, went home and said, I'll show them. And then he went and made a group of his own friends.

[Rory]

Well, Mole, if you must know, Indiana has the highest population of KKK members. And the 10 black gentlemen that were attending Indiana University obviously faced a lot of racism in 1909, 1910 into 1911 when it was founded. So, yeah, it was a little bit more than being picked last for a pickup game. It was more about survival. So, you know.

[Mall]

So they're like the Bill Russells of the fraternity.

[Rory]

I wouldn't put it that way. But if you want to, that's your journey.

[Mall]

Like, I mean, the green, Celtic green is the same. Like it's part of the same type of story.

[Rory]

Well, Indiana colors are red, but yeah, you know, this is. This goes deeper than. You know what this color. See, I don't even.

[Mall]

Listen. It's a whole. It's another link. I don't even want to know about it.

[Rory]

I. I know nothing about it because it's a non hazelnut.

[Mall]

Happy Founders Day to you and the tapas.

[Rory]

All of the members of Cap Alpha Soccer.

[Mall]

Absolutely. Shout out to the guys.

[Rory]

I went out last night for a little celebration, a 25 plus party. I was so excited when I saw the flyer.

[Mall]

What is a 25 plus?

[Rory]

So there was. Saturday night was like the young kids celebration, which I was not gonna go to, but I ended up being free around 11pm to go. So I stopped by real quick and lasted all of five minutes with. With the youngsters. But yesterday, Sunday was the R B Day party. 25 plus for Founders Day. I had such a good time.

[Mall]

Oh, it was the Founders. It was. Oh, okay.

[Rory]

Yeah, it was great. It was great to see everyone.

[Baby D]

It was the R B party. Yes.

[Rory]

What's funny is I was gonna hit you, but I was like, that is what's funny.

[Baby D]

I called you.

[Rory]

I was already in the pregame.

[Mall]

Nah, but that is what's funny, Baby. He was gonna call you.

[Baby D]

That' I literally called him yesterday, and the nigga was taking shots.

[Mall]

But he was gonna call you, though. You don't understand. I'm just letting you know that he was gonna call you.

[Baby D]

And you know I love that party.

[Mall]

He called me and told me he.

[Rory]

Was about to call, but it's not a. This is the first time they've done it.

[Baby D]

Oh, well, I went to some Kappa party with you before. Whatever.

[Mall]

Yeah, but Baby D, it's dry January. You don't need to be going to no party.

[Baby D]

I don't have to drink to go to a party.

[Mall]

Shh. Not the Baby D I know.

[Baby D]

Yeah. People. I ain't gonna lie. Being around humans.

[Mall]

You can't be in no club sober. You can't be in no day party sober. You know that.

[Baby D]

You're right.

[Mall]

Yeah. You can't do that to yourself. Come on. See, you trying to slip. What's in that? First of all, what's in that? Stanley water. Let me smell it.

[Rory]

Burp. Put burping. My face is crazy.

[Baby D]

That's freaked out.

[Rory]

That's too freaky.

[Mall]

It'll burp. Baby D, what's in that cup?

[Baby D]

Nah, you gotta have a nigga eat you out and tell him to burp in your face.

[Mall]

Burp.

[Baby D]

What's up?

[Mall]

Why?

[Baby D]

My bad. Cut that out.

[Rory]

But that's the last.

[Mall]

Cut it out.

[Rory]

No, that's the first. That's the first clip.

[Mall]

Yeah. Ain't no. Cut it out. No, we not cutting that. Why did you bring it? See, this is what happened when you don't drink. See, this is what happens when you don't drink.

[Rory]

That's crazy that I would have to drink, to get there. But on Saturday, I was going to hit you, like, yo, Sunday, I'm going to this. But I felt like you weren't going to go all the way to Newark and.

[Baby D]

Oh, it was in Jersey.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Baby D]

Oh, no, fuck.

[Rory]

I was made in New Jersey.

[Mall]

You wasn't.

[Rory]

It's my tribe.

[Mall]

What? You was made where?

[Rory]

New Jersey.

[Mall]

New Jersey. Okay.

[Baby D]

He was made.

[Mall]

Made in New Jersey.

[Rory]

I'm sorry. I. I did the test and paid the money, and it was one weekend.

[Mall]

Okay.

[Rory]

And then I became a member. Made being paperwork.

[Baby D]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, we get it. Not hazing. Organization.

[Mall]

Do you have any resolutions that you set for yourself? Is it. No drinking on Christmas Day? Is that something you're gonna. Are you doing dry January, or did you drink the R B party?

[Rory]

I drank at the RB.

[Mall]

Okay. All right, well, you gotta start 20, 27.

[Rory]

I didn't drink on New Year's, though. I didn't. Yeah, the R and B party. Listen, I had social anxiety the moment I watched in there. Thank God I went to the pregame, because if I went in there dead sober, I probably would have walked out. Even though it was good to see, like, people I hadn't seen in a while. It was similar to you seeing friends.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Round in the face and. Yeah, yeah, good. Good to kick it with everyone. I forgot that, like, women still go to parties.

[Mall]

All that women do is go to.

[Rory]

Yeah, but, like, the women we would all, like, like, not the IG Model world. Yeah. Like, there's still. There's still women in their 30s that still, like, go out and have a good time and are in bed by eight. Like, you would have done numbers in there. Like, I feel like you would have had a. A new look on life. Like, on some Andy Dufresne shit. You would have just saw everything differently.

[Mall]

I always said that the day party is what I should try because I.

[Rory]

You would have found your wife in there.

[Mall]

I don't like being out, like, crazy late, and I don't like that. But if I can get to a party at, like, 1 and be out of there by, like, 5. Yeah, 4. I'm cool.

[Rory]

They have food.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Rory]

I did smoke hookah for the first time in, I don't know, three years, two months. When did I smoke hookah?

[Baby D]

Never mind.

[Rory]

Oh, yeah, no, I did. I did. When EDN and them had that here. Yo, hookah sucks.

[Mall]

I don't know how y'.

[Baby D]

All.

[Mall]

I don't know how y'. All.

[Rory]

Like, I took a pull of that at the pre. I was like, oh, God, this is awful.

[Mall]

I don't know how y' all like that.

[Baby D]

They pack that, right?

[Mall]

They ain't packed that. I know that's right, baby.

[Rory]

No, they had chemists in there with that looked like a brush to poke all the holes. Then they had a vacuum. Like, you know, little fans, like, when you're hot. They had that in a tube that they were putting. Yeah, I was like, yo, this is some real chemist. This is Breaking Bad that y' all doing.

[Mall]

Yeah, I'm cool. I've never been a hookah guy. I mean, I was never. I was never a fan of that.

[Rory]

With the pretty women that were there, you probably would have smoked some hookah.

[Mall]

You think that I'm gonna smoke?

[Rory]

I think you would do anything a pretty girl is doing for hell.

[Mall]

First of all, that's crazy.

[Rory]

But, like, no, you might try a little fence if she doing.

[Mall]

That's what I'm. That's when I just really want my.

[Baby D]

Sucking too hard on a hookah. I don't lie. I ain't gonna lie.

[Rory]

Excuse me.

[Baby D]

I don't want my sucking too hard on a hookah. That's not really my. Like, you know.

[Rory]

What's the aesthetic?

[Baby D]

Yeah, like.

[Rory]

Like, cheeks going.

[Baby D]

Yeah, like, you could puff it, like, once. But, like, I don't want to see no, like, be fighting over the hookah tips when they bring it to the.

[Mall]

Table and fighting over hookah tips.

[Baby D]

Be fighting.

[Mall]

This is why I don't go out, because this is what they doing now. Fighting over hookah tips.

[Baby D]

Yeah.

[Rory]

What you.

[Mall]

No, I had the orange one.

[Baby D]

Hookah.

[Rory]

Like a big family at breakfast when.

[Mall]

The food is fighting over a hookah tip for, like. I'm sure they have more of these in the back.

[Baby D]

Yo, you chiefing. Why she. Why that girl in here chiefing the hookah?

[Mall]

Yeah, I'm just not a hookah fan. I don't know, man.

[Rory]

I just feel like these are things men. Men can't do. Smoke. Smoke tricks. Unless you're in high school. Smoking weed.

[Mall]

Oh, like, blow. Like. Oh, like, I.

[Rory]

There was somebody. There was a dude doing. Doing this at the day party is the craziest thing ever. Stop. Stop touching your dimple and making an O in the air.

[Mall]

Oh, my God.

[Rory]

Like, no girl is looking at you like, that's. That's. That's him right there.

[Mall]

Yeah. I don't know, man.

[Baby D]

Now you got. If they do it with the vape. I don't. I'm not. Nobody smoke a vape, but if they do it with the vape, it looks More cool. You can't do it with the hookah.

[Mall]

Well, I'm glad everybody is back safe. Let's have a great year. Let's have a fun year.

[Rory]

Were you at the inauguration?

[Mall]

No, I was not at the inauguration. For Zoran Mamdani.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mall]

He was inaugurated as the mayor of New York City. Since we've been gone. How do you feel about it, though? Like, honestly, I. Did you vote Zoran?

[Rory]

I'm officially a resident of New Jersey.

[Mall]

Oh, yes. Yes. I forgot. Damn. You couldn't vote, fam. But you would have.

[Rory]

The one. The one time I've ever wanted, like, me to be famous was at the DMV. I was there from 8am till maybe 3pm like, why? I've never in my life. There's gonna sound. I've never in my life been. God, I hope somebody recognizes me.

[Mall]

But why?

[Rory]

Because the DMV just takes. Everyone's trying to do their inspections too. Like, Jersey only has so many DMVs. It's not like New York, where you go to sneak one downtown by trade that nobody knows about.

[Baby D]

Well, thanks.

[Rory]

It's a whole process. The whole time, I'm just like, who looks young enough?

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Who may know the pod? That's.

[Mall]

Nah, listen, that's a real. Sometimes you all gonna. You gotta catch the eye contact with the right person and be like, yo, listen, I'mma bypass all of this. Like, I need to get outta here in, like, an hour. That's real. I know what Rory's saying. Like, sometimes you do walk in and be like, I'm not that guy. But it's like, I'm also not trying to be in here for six hours. Awful.

[Rory]

And I almost even considered having to bring Amara, but I fixed it because I was like, what if I'm there for a while? And on top of that, when I got to the. Because you go from waiting room to waiting room to line to line to line. Yeah, I get to, like, the final boss. Like, I'm, like, looking up, waiting for. For my number, and this Spanish dude sits directly next to me. Mind you, there's mad seats, reeking of cigarette. Like, reeking of cigarettes. Hands me his ticket and goes, that's probably him right now. Hand me his ticket and goes, yo, I'm gonna go outside and smoke. I'm gonna look through the window. Put your hand up when my number's called. He didn't. He told me and then walked away. He didn't ask me. He handed me the ticket and, like, in reaction, I have my headphones I'm like, what? And then said that shit. And walked out. And I look behind, it's a glass, and he's just standing there smoking. He said, put your hand up.

[Mall]

He looking at you through the window.

[Rory]

Like, mind you, he chain smoked like, three cigarettes, then comes back and he's like, they got a screen outside, bro. I'm good. I said, I wasn't raising my hand. Regardless. He was like, I was looking for your number.

[Mall]

He was like, you know, he was off the clock. Like, don't worry. You ain't got it. You ain't on the clock no more. I could see the screen from outside.

[Rory]

Then in the middle, because I was trying to register my car too, because I still have New York plates and everything. And this woman goes, it's my union mandated break. I said, how long does that take? 30 minutes. I said, where the do you want. We were in the middle of paperwork, and she had to go take her break. I was like, yo, what the. You want me to sit?

[Mall]

So crazy.

[Rory]

And it's like a bunch of different boots. So then the woman next to her tells me, hey, you should go back in the waiting room on the cameras. It's gonna look like she left a customer. I said, she went on her break. Now you're telling me to go back in the line?

[Mall]

Because she was on her spot in the line, though.

[Rory]

Did you?

[Josh Whand]

No.

[Mall]

Okay, that's cool. As long as you didn't lose your spot in the line.

[Rory]

I had to wait another 30 minutes.

[Mall]

Yeah, no, I feel you. I feel you.

[Rory]

The dmv, we had maybe five minutes left of paperwork. Like, you could have just.

[Mall]

You could have just let me get this over with. Yeah, well, you got it over with. Yeah, it's all good.

[Rory]

But I mean, shout out to. To Zoron. I mean, I. I felt seen when he came in the cab. I was like, finally, a politician that gets us.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Rory]

You think he held that cab?

[Mall]

Do you think he held that cab? That cab has. Has been booked for about two weeks.

[Rory]

Oh, look. Look at that cab driver.

[Mall]

Yeah. Come on, man.

[Rory]

I've never seen someone that looks like that driver cab.

[Mall]

Oh, man. York gotta love it. Well, Zora Momdani is the official mayor, so we have to see what he does with the city and what changes, what. What things happen.

[Rory]

I mean, good luck to you guys. Now I'm in Garden State.

[Mall]

You're in Jersey. You're. You're out the way.

[Rory]

Yeah. And I had to go to. To the party with my. My paper license. You know what? That's like in Newark, when everyone at the door is wearing bulletproof vests and they're cops. Like, that's how Newark gets down as far as door people. They were like, this is a piece of paper. I was like, what the. Do you want me? The DMV gave me.

[Mall]

Oh, for your id?

[Rory]

Yeah. Because I don't even have the license o. You.

[Baby D]

So you don't have your old New York id?

[Rory]

Yeah, take it.

[Baby D]

I would have said, I lost it. I don't have it anymore.

[Mall]

You can't get in.

[Rory]

What club has let you in?

[Baby D]

No, I'm saying the dmv. Oh, Newark doesn't take your New York.

[Rory]

ID if you're switching state. Yeah, they. They took my.

[Mall]

They took. He didn't have a physical id. No, I'm talking about dmv.

[Baby D]

You should have told them you lost your id. Oh, I don't have it anymore. I don't even have my New York id.

[Rory]

Oh, see?

[Mall]

Oh, you mean when he was getting it switched over?

[Baby D]

Yeah. That's what I'm like.

[Rory]

I've never done this before.

[Baby D]

Oh, my bad. Sorry.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Yeah. I didn't know you could do that.

[Baby D]

New to crime.

[Mall]

I mean, you can lose your ID Here. So what they gonna say? No, you didn't? Like, they gonna be like, no, you didn't. You lying. It's in your pocket. I see it like, yo, I don't have my old idea. I can't turn it in. Like.

[Rory]

And there's so many things that I realized, like, I'm not an adult. Like, doing things for the first time at 35 is, like, kind of embarrassing, even to the point that I've switched plates. When I got my new car, and Loyan was like, you never sent your plates in? I was like, why would I do that? He said, bro, that's illegal.

[Baby D]

Jesus Christ.

[Rory]

I was like, they've been sitting in my crib. I didn't. Where do I ship them to?

[Mall]

You just put them in the mailbox.

[Rory]

Is really my father. Like, he really has to tell me so many things at my big age of like, bro, you didn't know that?

[Mall]

Nah. Same day. I know he'd be feeling like, yo, what the. I'm like, bro, I know I did everything illegal for years.

[Rory]

He said it to me like, everyone knows you have to send your place back.

[Mall]

Like, that's literally illegal. That I do know. Where do you ship them to the dmv?

[Rory]

I don't know the address.

[Mall]

What, you mean?

[Rory]

I'm not going to the post office. License plates?

[Mall]

No. Or you could just pull up to the DMV and drop them off, I guess.

[Rory]

Yeah. I picked up my other plates at 30 Rock.

[Mall]

Okay.

[Rory]

I'm not like. I literally went. And I was like, why is. Why is the license plate spot the same place as snl? And picking up license plates in a neighborhood you can't park in is the craziest thing in the world.

[Mall]

Yeah. Like, where did you park?

[Rory]

I double parked and ran in.

[Baby D]

You did.

[Mall]

You got that off? No ticket. Of course I got a ticket. Okay. I'm about to say same ticket I put in. Okay. Yes, got it.

[Rory]

Of course I got a ticket.

[Mall]

So much has happened since we've been going, Baby D. Really? It's been some interesting stuff. It's been some funny stuff, some crazy stuff, but where do we start?

[Baby D]

I want to get on. You know what I'm saying? Dochi, you know, getting on their ass. And Rory prediction being right. Go, Rory.

[Rory]

True prediction of the gate.

[Baby D]

One of the things that Rory predicted was that Dochi and SZA would have a collab this year.

[Rory]

Well, I said. Well, listen, I said it was gonna be number one, so let's not give me too many flowers.

[Baby D]

It's gonna be a number one.

[Rory]

It's gonna be a slow burn. Listen, we're gonna get this to number one.

[Mall]

They're gonna work.

[Rory]

Is a good record. I really do like the joke.

[Baby D]

Yeah, I love that record. Don't you think I would love it? I loved it.

[Rory]

It's really good.

[Baby D]

She dissel a little bit in it, which I love. Like, you know.

[Mall]

Wait, what?

[Baby D]

Sorry, I'm joking. She didn't. But she dissed the industry plant allegations.

[Rory]

I've never called Dochi the industry plant, though.

[Baby D]

That's separate from my last sentence. I said I was joking when it came to dissing you, but she did.

[Rory]

You're confusing white streamers.

[Baby D]

Okay, I'm sorry. She came at the industry plant allegations. She also addressed the people. One of my favorite lines is when she said, like, y' all be coming at my sisters, like, my fellow sisters, fellow female rappers about pussy rap. Like, I rap about my pussy, too. Like, don't. Y' all ain't gonna do that separation shit. Like, I fucked with her for that. So, though, she did an amazing job. I love that song.

[Rory]

Yeah. I mean, Dolce's obviously not rap, but she raps about her a lot, which is fine. At least there's, like. I don't think Doja Cat's a rapper, but she raps about her a lot. I don't think Nikki's a rapper, but raps about her a lot.

[Mall]

Yeah, they all have one, so there's that.

[Rory]

I mean, Big Pun has a song called My Dick. My Dick. My Dick, My Dick Clown. My Dick, Dick. My Dick. My Dick, My Dick.

[Baby D]

Okay. Thank you so much for that. Thank you.

[Rory]

Did you know I did like the record?

[Baby D]

Did you have the inside scoop? Did you know this was coming?

[Rory]

No, I swear to God I didn't. It just makes the most sense going into 2026 with what TDE is doing. So why. Why wouldn't you do that?

[Baby D]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Does this mean Dochi is coming with an album soon? You got rap album, the year 2025. I mean, TDE typically does longer cycles between artists, but it's a different time. I. I can see doi coming out first quarter. If she's leading with a scissor record to start the year.

[Mall]

Oh, she's definitely.

[Rory]

I don't know if they're going to wait, like, of course they're going to work. Work this record. But I think this was more of a. I hate to say statement, because it sounds kind of corny, but I think this is just a way of saying think Dochi is going to be dropping constantly this year. Like, it's not going to be some quiet disappear. You got a Grammy. Let's wait till 2027 and do the allure thing. I think Dolce's gonna be dropping all year.

[Mall]

All year.

[Rory]

And I don't even know if this makes the album.

[Mall]

No, this song's definitely making the album. I don't know.

[Rory]

I don't know.

[Baby D]

I don't know if it makes that. I hear what he's saying.

[Rory]

Oh, I think. I think there's.

[Mall]

You have a scissor record that doesn't make do.

[Rory]

Scissor records right now, just on a hard drive somewhere.

[Mall]

Yeah, but it's a reason they put this out first.

[Rory]

It was more of a. A statement. It definitely got everybody. It did what it was supposed to do outside of Dolce rapping really well and it being a good song. It got people talking about the streamer shit. She addressed everything that people have been saying in 2025 going into 2026. I think she wanted to address that shit. And now we're moving on. I think there's another, bigger scissor record that would be on that album.

[Baby D]

And I also think, to me, this.

[Rory]

Is like a Lucy.

[Baby D]

This just works so well and not a Lucy, because it's not good. Like, I just want to call it Lucy. I don't mean it. Yeah. I think Also, it was perfect to release right now. This would be to release it because it's a very much like girl motivation song. Like, it's. It gives like you and your go are you go girl. It gives the same vibe as that song. So releasing it right before the new year, when all the girls are making their New Year's resolutions is perfect.

[Rory]

For real.

[Baby D]

I'm sure that that was considered in the marketing of this song. Like the song is called Girl Get Up.

[Mall]

Like so if y' all think that she has more scissor features. Do y' all feel like this is a. A like a collab album?

[Rory]

No, no, no, I don't. But I think they just have a lot of records together and this was one that maybe wouldn't make sense for the album, but was a good statement piece coming in into the year for what they're going to roll out with with Doji.

[Mall]

Okay.

[Rory]

But I, I don't think that they pull back. I think Dochi drops if it's not a full album first quarter. I do think we're going to get two or three more records pretty soon.

[Mall]

I could. I think her album is coming out in the first quarter.

[Rory]

Quarter. Yeah.

[Mall]

Yeah. I don't think they're going to keep dropping songs all year. And then she dropped in the third or fourth quarter. I don't think that. Yeah, I think she's dropping top of this year.

[Rory]

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[Mall]

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[Rory]

Actually, while we're on Music, it's January 5th and we're recording this. How does Hip Boy already have video of the year?

[Mall]

Well, that's because it was real life. Like, yo, but seriously, I'm glad that Hit Boy and his family, everybody is safe. But his studio was burglarized three times. Three times.

[Rory]

Two different studios.

[Mall]

Yeah. I don't know, you know, what exactly they're looking for. But yeah, it's just good that he took this and used this as, you know, some creative energy. And I like it, man. I ain't gonna lie. I like when artists go through shit like this and they turn it over and create art out of it. You know what I mean? It's real life shit. But the fortunate thing is that nobody, his family is safe and nothing that he really, you know, would miss was taken and things like that. Like all of his belongings and jewelry and obviously Grammys and things like that. Like, everything is still with him. So that was a good thing.

[Rory]

I just don't. I don't get it. This is at Chalice, which is a major recording studio where Hip Boy used to have a spot at. That's his new studio. Those are two different ones. What if you're not stealing the MPC microphone? Like, what do you. You, what do you think he's keeping in there?

[Mall]

The laptop?

[Rory]

No, these losers just broke the laptop out of frustration with their immature anger. Like, what. What are y' all trying to do here?

[Mall]

Well, they're probably looking for jewelry.

[Rory]

I mean, he mentioned that in. In the record they were looking for jewels. It was in the safe. But, like, I just don't. If you guys are. Oh for three, why do we keep. You're just going into his new studio to break his laptop? Like, y' all look like losers. That's some real loser ass.

[Mall]

But. But, I mean, away from that, it takes 70.

[Rory]

Like, how dumb are you? It takes 70 y' all to break into a recording studio.

[Mall]

All right, but aside from that, Rory, my question is, what kind of security measures are at your studio? Like, how do they keep getting in?

[Rory]

Oh, well, the. The chat and I didn't want to get on some because I know a lot of our listeners don't even know what Chalice is. That's what confused the out of me. And chalice is 24 hours where the. Was everybody.

[Mall]

But this is not.

[Rory]

Not this second one is not Chalice, but that first one looked like his door at Chalice Studios. But then again, there was a murder in the puff dock at Chalice, and that just disappeared. Yeah, I don't know Yo Chalice. I don't even know who owns Chalice. I've worked out of there a bunch of times. I want no smoke with y'.

[Mall]

All.

[Rory]

But something is weird at Chalice Studios in Los Angeles. They try to break in a hit boy twice. There was some crazy that happened in your bathroom. What the fuck is going on at that studio?

[Mall]

That doesn't look like Chalice. That look like his new spot?

[Rory]

Yeah, no, the second one, when the lights are on, that's definitely the new spot. But I don't. Like. I don't know. I guess I'm just not that committed to the robbery game. 0 for 2 and then you're gonna go for a third time.

[Mall]

Yeah, we missed it. We gotta go back. We gotta go back. Hopefully he left it there this time, but I'm glad. Hit it safe, though, man.

[Rory]

And dog, like. Like, y' all trying to move like Ocean's Eleven for thousands of dollars. Like, you need that many guys for an unproven robbery. Yeah, that third one had, like, 15 guys to split between one MacBook.

[Mall]

Yeah, I don't.

[Rory]

How heavy is that door that you need all them guys?

[Mall]

But what are they looking for, though? What do they think he keeps in the studio? Like, do they think he keeps a bunch of Cash and is it just jewelry?

[Rory]

I think there's probably. To your point point, Somebody that's probably been in the studio with Hit Boy as like a plus one or someone around and was like, y' all seen hit had 20k and he may have just had that on him that day.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Rory]

And they. That's what I think.

[Mall]

All right, well.

[Rory]

Or he's hiding the national treasure in there. We like, he left some things out of those bars that we don't know about. I don't like, he may have the Da Vinci Code in there. We just don't know know.

[Mall]

Yeah, that's just. I don't know. But either way, I think the security measures or whatever needs to be stepped up. Cuz if they keep burglarizing the. The studio, it's like, all right, what are we doing? Yeah, we got to move at this point. We got to move. We got to get a whole new. New spot.

[Rory]

Well, I mean, out of everything, I'm glad he was never there for any of and that, you know, because that can always turn bad. So I'm very happy, safe, and I'm very happy how he. He handled this. And the video is incredible. The verses are incredible. I just feel like I would never break into anyone's studio, but with that said, if I knew it was Hit. Boys, I'm taking your hard drive.

[Mall]

Yeah, I need these beats.

[Rory]

Where are all the throwaway Nas records? I'm selling Nas versus on Patreon at this point.

[Mall]

That's what I'm saying. I would have went straight to the laptop like, I need this. I know he got them Nas versus on here somewhere.

[Rory]

You know how expensive the mic is. And they. Boys, what the fuck are y' all doing?

[Mall]

That's what I'm like. They just looking for, I guess, just quick Shajurium and cash.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mall]

But luckily, you know, Hit boy is safe, his family is safe, and hopefully, you know, they step up the security measures at the studio. Cause obviously they looking for something and they might be back.

[Rory]

Yeah, I mean, shit, we. We got security downstairs 24 hours. So if you want to steal mall's hoodies, breaking them, you gotta go through them.

[Mall]

Breaking into steal hoodies is great. Yo, fam, I done just gave you. You ain't have to break the fuck.

[Rory]

I saw him all laid the other day. Like, I gotta have that.

[Mall]

You can have it, man. You ain't gotta break nothing in here, man. You can have it. Take it.

[Rory]

Did you guys pay attention to any of the fab Maino Dave East 50 Jim Jones saga No, I know it was over the break.

[Mall]

I have no idea what's going on.

[Baby D]

They're a little less rap about it. Christmas special.

[Mall]

What happened? What's going on, Rory? What happened is 50 bullying people again. What is he doing?

[Rory]

Well, first of all, Fab got off. Let's start there.

[Mall]

I keep telling y', all, Fab is the most underrated rapper of all time. I've said that before. Fab statement. No, it's not. It's a real statement. Fabis. First of all, the average lifespan of a rapper is how many years, Rory?

[Rory]

Two albums, depending on how you want to spread those out.

[Mall]

So we know that Fab. Fab has been out since the late 90s.

[Rory]

No, no, Fab is a legend.

[Mall]

He doesn't. He doesn't drop albums like that. So he's not. You know what I mean? He might give freestyle. We still asking for a soul tape around the holidays. He ain't gave us that yet. He did put him on dsps, though, so. Okay, cool. But, like, Fab has been consistently in conversations. Consistently. You know, on songs and giving us verses over almost over 25 years, probably, right? Yeah, definitely over 25 years. And, like, it's still in this type of shape, but.

[Rory]

All right. I think that's probably a young. A little bit younger generation than mine would feel like he's underrated. Cause to me, I think maybe people get Fab with his singles, the records he does with girls. Like, I think people don't realize Clue Tape, Fab. That's how we were introduced to Fab. So we've always known Fab.

[Mall]

Yeah, but I say one of the.

[Rory]

Better rappers in New York, period.

[Mall]

I say underrated because more people know Fab for Instagram and captions and what he wears than for his music.

[Baby D]

But I.

[Mall]

Cause when we have conversations, when we get to talking about the best from New York and this. That type of Fab is very rarely in anybody's conversation. When you say the best of New York, people put Jadakiss in that conversation.

[Rory]

I mean, as they should.

[Mall]

Yeah, but I'm saying Fab has probably have better albums than Jada.

[Rory]

No, I watched the verses.

[Mall]

No, that's what my song has.

[Baby D]

Better mixtapes. Mixtapes, maybe, but not albums, not albums.

[Mall]

Then Jada.

[Baby D]

Fab is not a. Fab's albums are not what heralded for.

[Rory]

He doesn't have bad albums, but they're not his own.

[Mall]

Fab has better albums than Jada.

[Rory]

Kiss, bro, Kiss of Death and Kiss the Game Goodbye. I don't know if Fab Has Street Dreams. Street Dreams is great. I just don't think it's better than Kiss of Death, bro.

[Mall]

Fab has better albums than Jadakiss, and I love both of them, but we talking about albums.

[Rory]

I think Quietly Young OG is his best album.

[Mall]

That is. And that's the one they did together, right?

[Rory]

No, no, that's the Freddy J that.

[Mall]

That album is crazy to me.

[Rory]

Insane.

[Mall]

But when I'm saying Young OG album crazy to me, like, I don't. Jada is not known, at least, you know, the people that I in my circle. He's not known for having great albums. He's known for having great verses, great bars, great songs.

[Baby D]

Fab is probably not known for having great mixtapes. Yeah, he's not known for having great albums. His albums are not bad. But he's not known for his albums. He's known for his mixtapes.

[Mall]

I don't know.

[Baby D]

You just named all his mixtapes.

[Rory]

Mixtapes and singles is probably what the casual fan knows Fab for.

[Mall]

I don't know if Jada has a better album than Street Dream. I don't know if he has a better album.

[Rory]

Can we pull up the Street Dreams track list? Because, I mean, once. Once you get. Obviously he has more albums than Jada, but I like. Loso's Way is cool, but I don't know if that's touching. Kiss of Death, Street Dreams had great singles. I like it, but I don't think people revere it as like, Fab is top tier in New York, but if you were to compare him amongst his peers that are top tier, his catalog, as far as albums go, does not, not no Equal the same people. And it's an unfair comparison too, with Kiss, because his first two projects were with a group, both of which are better than any Fab project.

[Mall]

No, no, but that's not. You can't. No, we can't bring that. You can't bring the locks.

[Rory]

There's very few rappers, period, that have ever put out anything better than We Are the Streets.

[Mall]

Yeah, but that's like one of the.

[Rory]

Greatest New York City group, though. That's what I'm saying. It's a little unfair, but I feel like if Kiss was solo his whole career, he would probably have a higher output of solo stuff that I think would rival Fab, but that's more of a hypothetical.

[Mall]

I mean, listen, that's subjective. It's who you like. Me personally, I feel like Fab has a better discography than Jada. Now, I'm not gonna say Fab is a Better rapper than Jada. I think Fab is a better artist than Jada, for sure, but I don't think. I think Jada is. Is probably the better rapper.

[Baby D]

So I would agree with you with better discography, because in the discography, I'm counting the mixtapes. If I'm taking the mixtapes off the table, I'm giving it to Jada. But if I'm counting the mixtapes, I'm agreeing. I'm agreeing with you. If you talk about discography in total.

[Mall]

I mean, locks albums aside, I don't think that Jada has a better discography.

[Rory]

Separate conversation. As far as solo go, I think Styles P is the best individual catalog out of the lops.

[Mall]

Yeah, I agree with that.

[Rory]

Gangster and Gentlemen is. Is the best solo project, period. To me, from anyone from the lot, I would say Time is Money. Ghost got a lot of great, great solo albums. Like, I put him over Kiss as far as that part. Yeah, but I mean, I. I hear you. I guess you could put. Fab is the most underrated. I don't know if I put him there.

[Baby D]

I feel like he is under. I don't think. I think he might be the most talented of the underrated, but I don't think he's the most underrated.

[Mall]

Who you think is the most underrated rapper? Rapper?

[Baby D]

That was Peach. I don't want to sit.

[Mall]

Murphy Lee. I forgot Peach is a Murphy Lee fan.

[Rory]

You forgot? That's something.

[Mall]

You ain't storing your brain every time.

[Rory]

You don't think.

[Mall]

Any chance he get this, tell me that he says it, so I don't know why I keep forgetting it, but. Yeah, well, what. All right.

[Rory]

What do you mean by. You mean underrated as far as, like, I feel like people that are mainstream because, like, if we're getting in the nerd part, like, I. I think you could be like, Fonte is one of the most underrated. You're saying, like, mainstream rap.

[Mall]

This is why I say. This is why I say underrated. Because when he put this. This, you know, guess a diss record out right, I saw how everybody's reacting to it, going crazy. And I'm like, this is light.

[Baby D]

I'm like, that's nothing.

[Mall]

That's light.

[Rory]

To me, that's jogging. He was jogging.

[Mall]

That's like. That's like layup line. And he just got like, you know, the. The breakaways unbuttoned. Like, he just got a little style on the layup. That wasn't. To me, that wasn't fab going like crazy. Like, I Was like, yeah, nah, that's what Fab. But that's what he do. Like, he could roll out of bed and turn the mic on to do that.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mall]

So when I say underrated. Cause I saw everybody like, oh, shit, Fab. Yo. Nah, he went crazy. And I'm just like. That was light to me. But I understand it because a lot of times sometimes Fab don't put out songs. He don't put out music. You know, around the holidays, he'll give us a nice little visual, put a freestyle out. But then other than that, it's like, you know, we just getting pictures when he doing his residency in Vegas or, you know what I'm saying, he on vacation. It's like, you don't really. A lot of these newer, younger cats, they don't really know. To me, they don't know how dope Fab really is.

[Rory]

You know what I hate that the Internet does to rappers sometimes when y' all type out their lyrics. Yeah, it does look wack sometimes. Sometimes they do that to Fab. They do it to Big Sean sometimes. Like, yeah, if you type out that, we get so fly that you can't swat us. Yeah, Reading that on Twitter, that sounds like a whack bar. But it. The way he delivered it in the.

[Mall]

Scheme, like, I think it's so hard is the delivery.

[Rory]

That's why I just hate photographs. Like, they'll be putting up Big Sean, but I'm like, yeah, of course that sounds bad when you just read it. Yeah, he delivered it in a certain way.

[Mall]

That's part of demographic.

[Baby D]

That's a big shot, horny ass. Walk in the studio and really said, ass, ass, ass. I start crying.

[Rory]

Yeah, that was a freaking party.

[Baby D]

But I will say, sit a house up on the ass. It's a s state.

[Mall]

You ain't get. You wasn't.

[Rory]

But see, but when you say it that way, it's like, that's not fair.

[Mall]

Don't do that. Don't kill the ball like that. Don't do that. Don't do that, man. Please don't do that.

[Rory]

But no, I'm with you. Fab. Fab was. He was chilling.

[Mall]

He's underrated, man. I don't care what y' all say. Fab.

[Rory]

I agree.

[Baby D]

He's underrated. I've always.

[Mall]

He's underrated it. What was y' all talk about? A whole lot of other mid. Way more than y' all talk about. Fab.

[Rory]

What was that? That window shopper line when 50 was trying to said he was going to buy the studio. So he was just window shopping. Yo. Fab went nuts on that. I feel like. I feel like 50. And you guys know I'm biased and kind of take 50 side all the time. Fad went in, and I haven't heard but an instagram post from 50.

[Baby D]

50 ain't rapping.

[Mall]

Y' all think 50 about the rap that do something. He told you he posted. He said after the new year, you know, he had to do the. With Ryan Seacrest.

[Rory]

I don't like that.

[Mall]

Nah, nah. See, that's the problem.

[Rory]

Of him and Game.

[Mall]

Nah, nah, nah.

[Rory]

If someone comes out Tuesday, I'm coming out on Wednesday.

[Mall]

You can't rush the chef. That's your problem. Then you be mad when the fries.

[Rory]

He invented this Russian, the chef.

[Mall]

You be mad when the fries. No, no, no. It's a whole different 50 we getting now, though. He not about to rap. You waiting on 50 to rap, you gonna be waiting for. I don't think. I don't. I do not see a world where 50 responds. Tomaino, Jim, Fab. Did Davies diss 52? Oh, was it like a Voltron with them? Did they all, like, go at him?

[Baby D]

Yeah, yeah.

[Mall]

So I don't see a world where 50 is rapping with those guys. He's not going back and forth with those guys on wax.

[Baby D]

No, I don't think so.

[Rory]

Here's my. And I mean this.

[Mall]

They're gonna show up to the studio. It's gonna be a Marshall Padlock on there. It's gonna say the building has been sold. That's the game. That's where 50 playing at now. 50 playing in that world. Like, he gonna buy the block that you record that building you record your show in. He now owns that block. Y' all pay him rent. That's the petty game that 50's in now. He's in that world. 50 is not going to the booth laying down bars. Going back at Fab, Jim, Mayno, and Davey, he's not doing that. I don't see. I don't see 50 doing that.

[Rory]

I agree with you. I just thought he would have moved faster in this regard. Cause you went online and said all the shit about the squatters thing, this and that. And I mean this respectfully. I thought Mayno, Easton and Jim did great. Cool. You need to reply to FAF, like, rapping something.

[Mall]

I'm asking you, you want 50 to rap?

[Rory]

There's no way he has lost that part of him where he's going to wait till the new Year.

[Mall]

Okay. I'm asking You a question.

[Rory]

He did that while he was doing something else, and I just want to know what it is.

[Mall]

I'm asking you, you think 50 is going to rap?

[Rory]

I think he's going to buy Inglewood, New Jersey, and take Fab's house.

[Baby D]

Do you think he's going to rap? It's a direct question. Yes or no? No.

[Mall]

No.

[Baby D]

Okay.

[Mall]

And that's all I'm saying. 50 not rapping. But he's not. Those days is old. I don't think 50 is writing new raps, diss records, going at dudes. Like, I just don't see him lending that much energy to it. Now, again, his petty game is on the business side now. He goes that route. He's been clear about that. That's what he does. That's the world he's in. Like, I'm just gonna go the business route and then make y' all work for me somehow, some way. Y' all all work for me. Now I see that happening.

[Rory]

But he tried to say that and Fab addressed it. We're still in our studio. You ain't buy yet. Because. Because even how to Pod. How to pod is hilarious. We better get distant out of pod. I would not. I'd feel offended if we weren't dissing out of pod. But I mean, 50 even backtracked a bit too, because it looked like he was talking to the owner and they had. Had owed a bunch of money, and then they paid their debts, and even 50 was like, all right, they paid their debts. They cool now. Like, he even had. He. He backtracked a bit on Instagram too. This isn't the 50 I know. That's all I'm saying. I think Fab has him a little rattled, that's all.

[Baby D]

A little rattled.

[Mall]

We gonna see.

[Rory]

I mean, I. I'm only doing this to instigate fun. Not.

[Mall]

No, no, no. This is all. This is. Listen, this is all great. I think that, you know, Fab, Jim Easton, and Maynard all agree that it's been great for them. You know, it's a good back and forth. You know, the views are probably, you know, well, definitely doing great because of this. You know, it adds to it. You get into it back and forth with 50 more eyes are on you. The momentum changes. Like, it's good for business. Just like Mayno said in an interview I saw a couple weeks ago. He said it's great for business, you know, when you beefing with 50, it's great for business. So it's fun. I mean, the fact that they went in the booth and rapped and dropped joints. I like that. I was like, okay, like this. That's what y'. All. Y' all are rappers, so y' all want to rap. I like that. I respect that. I think they. They did what they were supposed to do. Now we just wait and see what 50 does when he got the ball. That's all.

[Rory]

Listen, man, Fab went light on. On the nuke that he could have went in on. He's wait. He's waiting for round two. Pause.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Come on, man. After all, everything that was in the paperwork work.

[Baby D]

Ah, but he also got to play it cool, too.

[Mall]

Everybody got dirt.

[Baby D]

Come on now.

[Rory]

Fair.

[Baby D]

Look at that.

[Rory]

Yes. I'm just saying. Of entendre. That Fab, which I understand, saving it for, like, you just got to check the temperature right away. But the amount of Joy flips that Fab is capable of is absolutely insane. You. You playing with the last name Joy and everything that we read in that paperwork.

[Mall]

Yeah, but that's, you know, again, that. That I think you don't just.

[Rory]

You got Vlad interviewing everyone that playing. You playing somebody with Diddy. There's a lot of that fat just had to play with.

[Mall]

Yeah, of course. But, you know, everybody. Everybody got history over. Yeah, everybody got history, man. It's just who's going. Who's gonna go about it. More clever. That's what it is.

[Rory]

Is. And I think you give Fab the word Joy in round two is a little crazy.

[Mall]

We gonna see. It's gonna be fun to watch, though. 50. 50 said he, you know, he getting to it. So we just gotta sit back and wait and watch and see what happens.

[Rory]

All right, so if. If you rap and we can close this. But I do want to ask y' all if. If you rap in round one. And then he replies with some type of business ACR or some type of technique, like buying the studio or something like that.

[Baby D]

That.

[Rory]

Do you rap again?

[Baby D]

No.

[Rory]

How do you reply to that?

[Mall]

Buy your studio back from him. Yeah. What's the number? We need it back. Like, yeah, that's the game. That's where we at, bro.

[Baby D]

Find a new studio, and you let that shit die off in the wind before you embarrass yourself further.

[Rory]

Here's the. All right. Maybe just because, you know, I've been in therapy, my ego isn't what it was. Buying my studio. I would just go get another studio. It's like, that wouldn't bother me that much.

[Mall]

No. It disrupts things if I'm not.

[Rory]

If I'm renting somewhere, and you end up going, I don't do that. Like, it's. It's called gentrification. It happens all the time.

[Mall]

No, no, no.

[Baby D]

Yeah.

[Rory]

If I had to get out of my studio, I'd be like, well, I.

[Baby D]

Guess your enemy come and buy this up, you gonna be pissed.

[Rory]

Buying the studio that I rent isn't crazy. Like, if. If Jazzo went to the Rockefeller auction and bought 33.3% of Rockefeller, now I'm feeling a way like that would bother me, but just fucking buying a building I'm renting. I don't. That's not really a stat to me. Like, I literally just. We'll be back on Monday. Okay.

[Mall]

All right. Well, we gonna wait and see. It's gonna be fun to watch, though. I think this is gonna be fun to watch. But I am glad that people got a chance to really, you know, sit with that Fab verse and really go online and give Fab his flowers. But to me, that was, like. That was just confirmation that, oh, y' all don't know how dope Fab really is. Cause y' all going crazy over that verse, which he got off. He got off on that. But that proves that Fab is underrated.

[Baby D]

And I think some people are just happy to hear Fab again.

[Mall]

Oh, no. That was a lot of it, too. Like, people just. You know how many times. You know how many times I've told. I'm like, what the. Something, my nigga. Soul something. Soul food, soul burger. I don't know. Give us soul something. N. Like, even if you do that every year around the holiday, that's it. Like, it's light. Like, that's just an easy. That's so easy for Fab to do every year. Like, just put a couple records together and drop it around Thanksgiving, like, he.

[Rory]

Abandoned us like a family member. Around the holidays. It was the Tink series was always around Christmas. Then it was the. So. Yeah, man, every holiday was Fab Thanksgiving. Him and drunk. Like, that's what we always expected. And now there's no presents under the Christmas tree.

[Mall]

And now he's a podcaster, so it's like, we really ain't getting no fucking soul tape now. Yeah.

[Rory]

We should thank 50, though, because I feel like that maybe woke Fab up. I think Fab saw the reaction of everyone and. And maybe is reconsidering. All right, maybe people do want to a tape for me right now. So I. I hope. I hope that's.

[Mall]

People are very vocal about that at. With Fab. Like, they've been vocal.

[Rory]

I mean, artists live in their own bubble sometimes. And I'm not saying Fab is. Would be insecure by any stance, but artists sometimes are like, I don't know, like, when you get a little older and hip hop being perceived as a young man's game, it's like, do people really want to hear from me? Am I the old guy at the club? Like, I think a lot of older artists go through that, whereas I don't think that's the case with Fab, clearly, because he's in shape and everyone loved the verse. But I could see him being in his head about that type of stuff. Like, yeah, but I don't want to do. I want to be the old head. Still.

[Mall]

He has a Vegas residency.

[Rory]

Well, that's because he has a thousand hit records.

[Mall]

That's what I'm saying. So it's like people still want to hear you.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mall]

If you get offered a Vegas residency, that means people want to hear you. People still want to see you perform. Like you said, you got classic records, you got classic verses. Like, people love that even.

[Rory]

Whereas Jim Jones may not have as many hits as Fab, we've seen what Jim has done with the second half of his career with his catalog. Like, we want to hear from Jim Jones. Yeah, second half catalog. I'm saying Fab should look at that. Like, no, we all love everything Jim Jones puts out. His albums are incredible. You don't think we want to hear from you too?

[Mall]

Yeah, man. Well, I was glad we got that, man. So shout out to the guys, man. Squad. Squatters rights is the name of the fat. Squatters rights. Look, yo, look at where rap is at, man.

[Rory]

Also the wildest law.

[Mall]

The fact that.

[Rory]

That'S still on the books. Oh, man, like, I thought they would have got rid of that, like when they got rid of like Burning Witches in Salem. Like, why is this legal that somebody could do this? Speaking of Davies, before we get off this, did you see the footage of him at. At his squatter's residency? He was squatting.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Rory]

And there was a producer there trying to get Dave on one of his artists albums. And apparently this, this producer played Dave back in the day. Didn't give him a beat when he was still up and coming. And Dave said, nah, fuck that.

[Mall]

I like it.

[Rory]

You tried to play me back then.

[Mall]

I like it. Dave East. I like that. And it was done respectfully. Dave wasn't, you know, he wasn't disrespecting the guy. He was just like, yo, when I ain't had no name. I ain't had no motion, no buzz. I couldn't get nothing from you. Well, yeah, now that the tables turn, I hate that.

[Baby D]

Like, nah, you niggas wasn't paying attention to me when nobody else was paying attention to. Well, yeah, I wasn't the only one. Like, fuck, why I had to be.

[Rory]

The first one to pay attention to yours?

[Mall]

Now that I got some buzz in the name, don't come asking me to do a joint.

[Baby D]

Well, now it makes sense. Now you have buzz in the name, so now you are a value to you.

[Mall]

But you know what? Now I also have leverage, too. No.

[Baby D]

Oh, okay. I mean, that's fine.

[Mall]

That's all I was. That's why I respect that. Cause now when you got leverage as well. Nah, I'm cool. Respectfully, though, like, it's all good. You know what I mean? But we not. We can't do no. We can't work together, though.

[Rory]

I would only feel that way if, like. Like, if I asked him, he, like, really tried to play me out. Yeah, like that. At that point, yeah, I'm going to be 50 level of petty. Like, I'll actually agree to it, book the session, and I'm not even showing up. Like, I would go that far. If you try. If you disrespected me when I just simply asked y', all, I'm upand coming. I'd love to work with you. And you, like, played me out, then I'd feel that way. But I don't know. I mean, in this business, if you can't be used, you're useless. Like, I totally understand if a producer was like, nah, I'm cool right now.

[Mall]

Yeah, but.

[Rory]

All right, like, everyone's not supposed to reply to everybody that says, yo, work.

[Mall]

You're right. You're right.

[Rory]

Like, but if you do it in an arrogant, nasty way, then, yes, Dave should play him out times 10.

[Mall]

All right, but let's have another. Another part of this conversation. Just because I'm not, like, hot, right? Don't mean that you hot.

[Baby D]

Well, obviously, you coming over here wanting to work for me. I'm hot enough.

[Mall]

I like your beats, I like your production. But you ain't alchemist. You ain't Timbaland. Like, you ain't dumb niggas. We understand if they don't respond to Dave east, like, and I'm just speaking how I feel. Like, Dave might look at it like, homie had a buzz. He did a lot of work with Cam and shit like that. He might not be nominated for no Grammys. No time soon. You get what I'm saying? So, yes, you're a producer. You got some songs out here in this space that's lit, that's popping right now. I'm on the come up, but I feel like I could do some dope shit on your records. I don't know if every artist, just because you not hot, could just shut it down. Now if you were one of those, again, you a legacy art producer. And then it's like, I'm an artist on the come up and I'm coming to you like, yo, Alchemist, can I get you one of my favorite producers? I need. I could understand Alchemist shutting an artist down in that. But if you just. If you working with niggas that I'm chilling with every day, you working with Cam and, you know, whoever else is from Harlem, I can't get a beat like, come on, bro. I can understand why Dave took that a little like, bro, you working with niggas that I'm in the studio with every day.

[Rory]

And again, we don't know the full story of this entire thing. So I wanna say we are kind of high.

[Mall]

We're just having a conversation about it.

[Rory]

Let's put yourself in that producer shoes. I got a little traction now. I'm working with Cam Vado. I'm in the position of trying to hustle and get my to the biggest people. They working with me.

[Mall]

But this was me and Vado got.

[Baby D]

A good way before.

[Rory]

That's what he. That's the.

[Baby D]

He denied Davies way before that.

[Rory]

Like, no, if I got these beats that I think are incredible, I'm trying to get them to the best.

[Mall]

Where was dav Trying to get a beat from him before he. Like, when he first started rapping? Yeah, I don't know if that's when he first started rapping. I think Dave had a. He already had a name. He wasn't as. He didn't have the name that he has now. But I don't think Dave bumped into this dude when he was writing his first raps and was like, yo, can I get a beat? I don't think that's how it happened.

[Rory]

I say this respectfully to just. Cause my relationship with Wayneau, how I was really introduced to Davies was through Wayne. Okay. Once Wayneau was leading the ship, I don't know if there was a producer that was turning down. Down working with Davies. So this had to have been before.

[Mall]

No, no, no. It don't have to have been because.

[Rory]

Especially in New York City, like, the connections just Wayno had because he's been in this industry for so long and has been such a pivotal person. If Wayno says something's hot, we're gonna believe it. And of course, Dave east ended up being nice. It's not like Wayno was gonna co sign. I don't think there's any producer that's telling Wayno and Dave east at that time. Nah, I think this was before that.

[Mall]

Nah, I think this happened around that time.

[Rory]

Oh, well. And if that's the case, then I'm be a dick.

[Mall]

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like, I'm not. I'm not hot as Cam.

[Rory]

You can't see a producer on his own individual grind. I'm not trying to think about everyone else. I'm trying to get my beats to the biggest artists. I'm not wasting. I'm not wasting this beat on somebody that I don't know is proven yet. I'm trying. Like, we're all hustling in our own individual worlds.

[Mall]

I understand that. But what I'm saying is sometimes certain producers that shut artists down, they don't really be in a position to shut artists down. You grinding and hustling just like I'm grinding. We both out here selling Knicks and dimes, nigga. We ain't moving weight yet.

[Rory]

Like, yeah, there's artists I tried to work with on my first project that respectfully said no. And then after the first one came out was like, yes, work.

[Baby D]

Yeah, they needed.

[Rory]

Which I didn't find that offensive at all. They need proof of questions. I need to know, like, what is this?

[Mall]

All right. Which artist shut you down?

[Rory]

I'm not gonna get into that. Yeah, I don't want to get into.

[Mall]

Why he's the artist. It's his album. I'm not asking him to gossip about somebody else.

[Baby D]

But you still want to work with them again. And sometimes people aren't too keen on that. Like, shutting down podcast, letting people know.

[Mall]

That they shut me down once. But then we work together. What's the problem with that? Yeah, you shut me down the first time, but we did end up working together. What's the problem with a lot of.

[Rory]

People in the beginning were like, well, let me hear some shit. Like, as far as not just hear beats when you put records out, I need to see what the reaction of this is going to be like, because I was halfway done with the album before I even put the first single out.

[Mall]

Yeah, like, you never. You. You're not proven in that space yet. Like, as far as, like, people that's.

[Rory]

Why I wasn't offended. Like, nobody was, like, playing me out.

[Mall]

They was just like. Like, I feel like.

[Rory]

I don't know if I want to be the first one.

[Mall]

I feel like Dave had traction. He just wasn't as popular as he is now today. But I don't think that he went to him when he was just trying to, like, put his first song out. I don't think that's how it happened. I think it happened. He had traction. He had motion. Dude probably didn't feel like his motion was enough, and he shut him down. And then now here we are, and you asking me for nah, and I can't do it. Respectfully. I love that. Respectfully.

[Rory]

Listen, man, the worst part is when you're trying to work with an artist before they're super popular and then they fucking blow up. And now it's like, should have got that verse before.

[Baby D]

Who was it that you wanted to do that with? And then they got huge, and you.

[Rory]

Were like, ironically, the. The woman that everyone thinks I just, like, do she, Right?

[Josh Whand]

Yep.

[Baby D]

Yeah, you were child.

[Rory]

Oh, my God. 2016. I was harassing re yolk, you remember? This girl's girl is so good. I want to work with her. Two beasts on the first album were specifically made for doi.

[Baby D]

Yeah.

[Rory]

And one on this album was made for her. The Dixon joint. Keep. Keep.

[Baby D]

Keep. Keep manifesting.

[Mall]

Keep Manifesting is hilarious. No, for real.

[Baby D]

Keep manifesting that it'll happen.

[Mall]

That's like, if somebody is starving and you be like, yo, keep manifesting.

[Baby D]

But he's not starving. He's fine.

[Mall]

No, I know. I know that, but I'm just saying. Saying. Telling somebody to keep manifesting, like, yeah.

[Baby D]

I don't want him to talk about it like, it'll never happen. It may happen one day. I hope that it happens for you because I know how much you love those Gucci. So I hope one day you do.

[Rory]

Let the Internet tell you.

[Baby D]

Who gives a about the Internet? That's another thing you. First of all, I don't give a about the Internet. I don't give a about the Internet.

[Mall]

It's 2026.

[Baby D]

Rory gives a about the Internet.

[Rory]

Let's start. Let's start 2026 with honesty. I thought I did not care about the Internet.

[Mall]

I like that. I respect that, actually. I like that. I thought I.

[Rory]

There was a time in 2025 that I thought I did not care about the Internet. Yeah. I am here to tell you guys, I found out in 2025 that I care about the Internet.

[Baby D]

If that Ain't affecting my money or my safety. I don't give a. About that. My money and my.

[Rory]

They were outside my house.

[Baby D]

I know. That's fine. It's not fine. That's bad. It's horrible. Horrible. But that's what I'm saying. If it ain't affecting my money or my safety, I don't give a. About the.

[Mall]

Everybody want to be the main character until this time, huh?

[Baby D]

Main character. I don't want to be the main character every day. Y.

[Mall]

Like, y' all want to go vi. Viral. Look, all right? Y' all want to go viral on.

[Rory]

Y' all terms.

[Mall]

You don't get the Pikachu.

[Rory]

That's not how it works.

[Mall]

That's not how that works.

[Rory]

I want to go viral for positivity.

[Mall]

Yeah, for positivity. I bet you do.

[Rory]

Imagine going viral for positivity.

[Mall]

That's not how the algorithm works.

[Rory]

Holy. Imagine that.

[Mall]

Nah, man.

[Baby D]

People do it.

[Rory]

And then all the comments are, this person's full of. This is. This was set up. This was this. Yeah. Come on. Nobody does anything positive.

[Mall]

The only thing that goes viral for positivity is, like, when you approach a mom of five at a Ross parking lot, and you ask her if she knows how to wrap a gift, and then when she wraps it, you didn't hand her, like, $10,000. Like, you gotta pay $10,000 to go viral. Basically, that's what you.

[Rory]

And if you give somebody $10,000, they'll say they just did this so they could go viral. Yeah.

[Mall]

You paid $10,000 to go viral. That's what it boils down to.

[Baby D]

Keith Lee goes viral all the time for positivity.

[Mall]

Who's Keith Lee? Oh, the food guy.

[Baby D]

Uhhuh.

[Rory]

And listen, man, I'll slap the out.

[Baby D]

You about Keith Le.

[Rory]

No, no, I. With. First they. They night you, then they good night you. They. They turned on him, too. You can't name one person on. On the Internet that has gotten some viral fame on a positive side that they didn't eventually try to turn. Like. Nah, no way. There's too much good vibes over here. We got to figure out.

[Baby D]

Well, eventually, there's always going to be negative people trying to spoil.

[Rory]

They was killing Keith Le for a while, for a little bit.

[Baby D]

That ain't last, so that ain't no.

[Rory]

I'm.

[Mall]

Yeah, he didn't like the chicken wings or something.

[Baby D]

Yo, I'm. Because he came to New York, and the food that he tried in New York was not authentic, like, real New York food, and he didn't give it the greatest ratings. Like that. He, like, he was eating like, a salmon chopped cheese. That's what they were killing him for.

[Mall]

Like, they were salmon chopped cheese.

[Rory]

He. I mean, he. He deserved to be killed for them salmon.

[Mall]

He put salmon in.

[Rory]

But I feel like, as New Yorkers, that's our fault for not spamming his inbox with the correct places. Yeah, salmon chop cheese is.

[Mall]

Yeah. I don't even know how he landed on that one. One.

[Baby D]

Yeah.

[Mall]

Come on, Keith.

[Baby D]

But he's not from.

[Rory]

He's from, like, he rated it, right. This is trash.

[Mall]

See, that's the. That he got it right.

[Rory]

This is awful. This is what trying to eat out here.

[Mall]

Yeah, yeah, he got it.

[Rory]

He did. He did his job.

[Mall]

Yeah, yeah, he got it, right. Yeah. Keith, you still on the winning street. Don't let them tell you nothing different. That's trash. Like, that is hilarious.

[Baby D]

Which one of y' all y' all think is going to be the first to go viral? This.

[Rory]

Don't just stop. See, I don't even like. I don't even like to look at you.

[Mall]

Scared.

[Baby D]

He's still shaking in his draws. Word.

[Rory]

I'm so scared and gay that I made a vision board with Kia.

[Baby D]

Y' all put each other out.

[Mall]

A vision board is gay. We.

[Josh Whand]

We.

[Rory]

We had all the magazines and, like, cut out all the things.

[Mall]

That's a ransom note.

[Rory]

What are you talking about?

[Mall]

That's when you don't want the fuzz to catch off.

[Baby D]

Stupid mall is stupid.

[Mall]

That's when you don't want the fence to catch. Not a vision board.

[Rory]

It could be both. It could be a ransom note or a suicide note. Who knows where the fishing's gonna go?

[Baby D]

Yo, my last Disney board was a suicide note for sure.

[Mall]

Oh, my God, man.

[Baby D]

Yo, but yeah, which one do y' all think it's gonna be?

[Rory]

Who?

[Baby D]

Who gonna be the first one this year?

[Mall]

I don't know, man.

[Baby D]

Mall Maul, when that cold album dropped.

[Mall]

Listen, man, they tried to say I was wrong. I told them.

[Rory]

Are you giving an exclusive right now?

[Mall]

I told him we was getting something for Christmas. I was just a couple days early.

[Rory]

Okay.

[Mall]

We're getting something Friday, though. Well, Thursday night.

[Rory]

Okay.

[Baby D]

Don't make me cut that out, cuz. You love doing that. We all go home then. You just cut this out?

[Mall]

No, Thursday night.

[Rory]

So you're saying on record, this the ig clip. You're saying on record, we are getting a Jermaine Cole album?

[Mall]

I didn't say that. See? See how fast. Look how fast I'm Trying to get.

[Rory]

You to go viral.

[Baby D]

But that's what we were talking about.

[Mall]

I said that. I said the album was coming for Christmas, right. I thought I was just a couple school a couple weeks early. I think it this Thursday. Thursday night.

[Baby D]

And if you wrong, can you buy me something?

[Rory]

I still owe you shoes from 2022.

[Baby D]

I know.

[Mall]

No, I don't.

[Baby D]

Yes, you do. Because we went shopping to go get shoes and I still don't have shoes.

[Mall]

They didn't have your size. The one everything you wanted.

[Rory]

Three years they haven't had his eyes.

[Mall]

No, no, no. We went when we went to flight club. Everything she wanted, they did not have.

[Baby D]

You told me you was gonna text Joe.

[Mall]

I did not know that he didn't send me. I texted him. He was here that week. He had a whole popup that week.

[Rory]

I texted him I was going through some things.

[Mall]

I would have went, oh, yeah, he was. Yeah. Oh, that's when it was prime time too.

[Rory]

I was trying to keep my friends away from me.

[Mall]

Yeah. But I do think this Thursday we get an album that I think we've all been collectively waiting for.

[Rory]

Okay, okay. So you're not saying just open ended. We just get. It could be.

[Mall]

I think we get an album.

[Rory]

It could be Dochi, I think.

[Mall]

Okay. Y' all may have been collectively waiting for Dochi. I'm not waiting for a Dolce album. I. I mean, I'm happy when she drops it, but I'm not sitting back.

[Rory]

Like I think the person you're insinuating now, but covering your ass by not saying the name. Yes. I think the whole world is waiting for that project before probably anyone else.

[Mall]

So I think we get it this Thursday. I was a little early. I thought it was Christmas. Maybe some things couldn't get cleared in time. You know, the industry's closed for the holiday, so things had to get pushed.

[Baby D]

Prepare to be.

[Mall]

Sick of me if it's good.

[Baby D]

Sorry, you know what? Sorry, my bad. I a mean to call you out your name.

[Mall]

I ain't mean to call you 2026. First time I've been called a in 2026.

[Baby D]

It's all good to call you out your name. My bad. That was respectful. I'm sorry, sir. Let's be fucking for real. Let's be fucking for real.

[Mall]

We don't know.

[Baby D]

Go on, get.

[Rory]

We don't know.

[Baby D]

See, you gonna make me repeat myself.

[Mall]

A lot of those songs that was dropped came in. One went, I ain't heard none of you play Port Arthur. What was it? Port. Port Antonio. When the last time you pressed playing Port Antonio this year. Cut it out. He always. He always just played a song. I was just he like LeBron of music. I just. Yo, I was just playing that.

[Baby D]

Rory just played Port Antonio Clouds and Off Season for me when we were on our way to the Monica concert.

[Rory]

Brandon Monica and brought back 21 Savage's verse twice.

[Baby D]

Yeah he did just play Pon. That was the last time I heard heard it.

[Rory]

I'm excited man.

[Baby D]

And that was like two months ago.

[Rory]

So speaking of caring with the Internet says I do find it funny when all the comments under certain things are like they be trying to go viral. If y' all knew how much we don't know the things that are going to go viral. No none of this.

[Mall]

Nobody knows.

[Rory]

I'm like bro, I don't. I don't even know how you would think that.

[Mall]

Nobody we we surprised at the that goes viral. Like the we think is going to go viral.

[Rory]

We don't even make it a clip stupid. We are.

[Mall]

How do you. How do you even know know what's like nobody knows what's gonna go viral.

[Rory]

Like the Pepsi Challenge or aside from.

[Mall]

Having a rock walk through this door right here. Like you know what I'm saying? Like you know that's going viral other than that the Rock Dwayne Johnson.

[Baby D]

Yeah him walk through the door.

[Mall]

I said if he was to walk through this door right here. Yeah that's going viral. You know that we don't have to even other than that you don't know what the is gonna go viral.

[Rory]

He'd come through the wall. I don't even know if.

[Mall]

Yeah I don't know.

[Rory]

Yeah even then at that point I mean he's gonna have to save the Democrats. I will still be rock versus J.D. vance few years. Who's ready Too soon. My bad. Anyways, Kai S says he'll never be in a relationship again.

[Mall]

Kai, listen man.

[Rory]

That's such a 22 year old thing to say. My heart goes with you, Kai. I've been heartbroken before too. It sucks. It's part of life and anytime someone tries to tell you that I saw all these people trying to give him all this advice. When your heart is broken for the first time, all that logic goes out out the door. DDG yeah you're right. Then there was some other streamer UFC fighter, whatever that gave him great advice. You're not trying to hear that when you 22 and her you don't give.

[Mall]

First of all trying to give a 24 year old advice about Dating is like, bro, they're not retaining that information.

[Rory]

24 year old man, welcome to the gym.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Monday, chest triceps. Yo, yo, as men and Mall's the leader of this entire thing, we are so bad at consoling our friends. No, he literally just gave him a Monday through Saturday gym regimen.

[Mall]

To me, that's the best.

[Rory]

Kai saying I'm never gonna be in a relationship again. He's in his early 20s. He has so much life to live. God given, no dog Friday, leg day.

[Mall]

No, man, I mean, to me that is the best advice he's probably gotten on the Internet. Welcome to the gym, Go work out.

[Rory]

Well, I agree that everyone should do that.

[Mall]

Yeah, like you, like you're 24. This ain't gonna be the last time a girl disappoints you or breaks your heart or this is not the last time. Like, you know what I mean? So for Kai to say he'll never be in a relationship again, I just thought that that was funny. Cause it's like, bro, come on, man, you'll never be in a relationship again in your life. At 24 years old, you're making that statement. I understand he's hurt. You know, he may be a little heartbroken. I get that, I respect that. But come on, Kai.

[Rory]

When I got my heart broken for the first time. Actually, let me rephrase that. When I thought I got my heart broken for the first time. Time. Because that's what's up when you're young. You think your heart is broken and then your heart really gets broken later and you're just like, oh, wait, I never even love that chick. I thought that was heartbreak. But all the older people in my life, off the first heartbreak. This is why I just hate that I have such a pessimistic brain. They were like, man, same M said, this is going to happen again. You're going to meet another girl, she's going to break your heart. This is the cycle of life. My brain took that as, as this is gonna happen again.

[Baby D]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Now I really don't want to be in a relationship again.

[Mall]

Yeah, it happens, man. That's part of it. Every relationship ain't gonna last forever.

[Rory]

Of course not, but you don't. Heartbreak.

[Baby D]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Not your little high school heartbreak.

[Mall]

Like 20 something years old, you got all this notoriety, success, her mom, you're wiling.

[Baby D]

Yeah.

[Mall]

And then, you know what I'm saying, you think you found a good girl and it's like, yeah, this is gonna work. I could see us like they may have had Talks about starting a family, you know, you don't know know. But that's just part of being a 24 year old. Like those types of moments and conversations, that's all we've, we've all had those conversations at 24. We've all had those thoughts about somebody at 24. Like when the last time you thought about that person, that'd be the funniest part.

[Rory]

Like years later. I was really tripping over that.

[Baby D]

Yeah.

[Rory]

And I mean Kyle find out later.

[Mall]

That you all right over there? You sound like.

[Rory]

You sound like I was trying to get past the social.

[Mall]

It sound like your cat was like you stepped on your cat's paw or something. Good.

[Rory]

And I mean Kai will understand that, you know, the things that you tweeted at 24 you don't actually believe.

[Mall]

Yeah, he gonna, he gonna look back.

[Rory]

At that actually take that one over here.

[Mall]

You know what?

[Baby D]

No worrying now.

[Rory]

Nobody tells you how many random little charges hit you every week. One minute you're grabbing coffee, next thing you know it's a delivery fee, a parking ticket, and somehow you bought a plant that you don't even like.

[Mall]

Exactly. Life doesn't come with a budget app built in, but the Klarna card kind of feels like it should have.

[Rory]

It's basically your debit card upgraded. You use your own money. No credit, no weird fees. And you get to choose how you pay all up front or you plan it out in the Klarna app.

[Mall]

Yeah. So you're still being responsible, just smarter. It works anywhere Visa is accepted and there's zero credit impact when you apply.

[Rory]

Smarter spending, less stress. Us. That's grown man budgeting right there.

[Mall]

Sign up for the Klarna card by downloading the Klarna app or learn more at klarna.com forward/us klarna card. Klarna card Pay later plans issued by web bank. Deposits in your balance account are held at Webbank. Member fdic. Anywhere Visa is accepted. Certain merchant product good and service restrictions apply. Some merchants do not accept virtual cards. Physical card only included with a paid Klarna membership plan. Certain merchant product good and service restrictions apply.

[Rory]

Lie. Nobody tells you how many random little charges hit you every week. One minute you're grabbing coffee, next thing you know it's a delivery fee, a parking ticket, and somehow you bought a plant that you don't even like.

[Mall]

Exactly. Life doesn't come with a budget app built in, but the Klarna card kind of feels like it should have.

[Rory]

It's basically your debit card upgraded you use your own money. No credit, no weird fees and you get to choose how you pay all upfront or you plan it out in the Klarna app.

[Mall]

Yeah, so you're still being responsible, just smarter. It works anywhere Visa is accepted and there's zero credit impact when you apply.

[Rory]

Smarter spending, less stress. That's grown man budgeting right there.

[Mall]

Sign up for the Klarna card by downloading the Klarna app or learn more at klarna.com us klarna-card klarna card pay later Plans issued by Web bank deposits in your balance account are held at Webbank Member FDIC anywhere Visa is accepted. Certain merchant product good and service restrictions apply. Some merchants do not accept virtual cards. Physical card only included with a paid Klarna membership plan. Certain merchant product good and service restrictions apply.

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[Rory]

Because there's really like two options. You could end up like Kai, heartbroken at 24 and never thinking you'll be in a relationship again, man. Or you can be the guy that gets married and walks down the aisle to I'm going in with no reaction. Like you guys have thought I've bombed on stage at at live shows. This was rough. Can we get a little volume here, Josh?

[Baby D]

They might cut the song out.

[Rory]

I just want you guys to see it.

[Baby D]

Why is he offbeat?

[Mall]

He's a white boy.

[Baby D]

Hey, hey. I'm so official All I need is a whistle. Oh, my God.

[Rory]

Yo. Hitting the Ray Lewis at the end of it. Here's. Here's my thing. I can. I can empathize with this. John. We've all thought about things in our head that played out way differently once it got to reality. Because, you know, he, like, he's been thinking about this for months.

[Mall]

Months.

[Rory]

And he thought he was gonna smoke this. He kind of thought everyone probably started rapping along too.

[Baby D]

Months. He been thinking about that for years. For I'm going in to be the song you come out to in your wedding. You've been wanting to do that since that song came out. 50.

[Rory]

Why do you know all the lyrics to that song?

[Baby D]

I do.

[Rory]

I don't know where. So do I. Not all of them, but I just wear in that song. Did you feel like wedding named Crystal?

[Baby D]

Let us suck my pistol. She opened up on a mouth and then I blew her brains out.

[Rory]

Imagine. Well, if your wife's name is Crystal, that's kind of romantic, no?

[Mall]

Yeah, that's definitely romantic.

[Rory]

That's kind of beautiful. And it's in front of God. So it's okay because you guys are married.

[Mall]

This would have been better if it was the reception. Maybe if they both came out together.

[Rory]

So here's the thing that I never.

[Mall]

Knew you had an entrance song to. Like, when you walk, it's usually slow. Yeah, but that's what I'm saying.

[Rory]

You're usually already standing there. The bride is the only one that comes out.

[Baby D]

No, the man. There's. The man walks down to music as well. Nobody ever gets that out of camera. Nobody cares.

[Mall]

I've never seen that.

[Baby D]

I've seen men walk down to music. Music. It's usually like a piano.

[Rory]

Like a piano. After, when they announced the bridal party down.

[Mall]

No. You standing there, just thought you were your best man already standing there.

[Baby D]

No, I've seen men walk down. You've seen plenty of videos. The men walk down. Yeah, plenty of videos I've seen that.

[Mall]

But who was the bride?

[Baby D]

It don't matter about who was the bride. A lot of black weddings, the man will have an entrance song, too. It's usually a slower song, though, or a piano solo, something like that. But it's not. They'll give him his walk. I've seen that plenty of times.

[Rory]

Or they just walk out. And then the best man and the bridesmaid, like, they all just walk out, and then they're there. We only focus on.

[Mall]

We look that up. Do the men traditionally walk out?

[Baby D]

Traditionally, I'm Sure. No.

[Mall]

All right. So, yeah, that's what I'm talking about. The tradition of marriage. Like, I'm not talking about what you want to do at your wedding. The tradition is the man is already standing there when the ceremony starts.

[Rory]

I'll give you guys a little inside scoop to whiteness. Peach, back me up up here. The song reception thing, white people just adopted that.

[Mall]

Oh, yeah.

[Baby D]

That was never a.

[Rory]

White people just figured that part out. Like, we're now just putting that into our way. We wouldn't. You would just go to the reception.

[Baby D]

I still don't like it either. I don't like it. I don't like when anybody does it. I hate it.

[Mall]

Yeah, yeah. The bridesmaid.

[Rory]

Yeah, it was probably around the time I'd have to say, like, when vine started popping. That's when white people were like, wait, you could do this at your reception?

[Mall]

Reception?

[Rory]

You're allowed to, like, do it.

[Mall]

You mean. You mean you can have a good time? Look at white people say, you mean you could have fun?

[Rory]

Listen, they find out about Nigerian weddings and you could just start throwing money. That when white people figure that part out, those weddings are going to be nuts. But I don't know, I. I feel like as a man, because I believe in double standards. The wedding is for the women. Woman, just shut the up and make it her day. Yeah, it's her day. It focuses on her. I'm gonna be standing there like this. You, if your. Your father is still in your life or alive, walk down with your pops. And I'm gonna be just like this. I'm gonna cry. This is for you. This isn't like, yeah, of course it's our day. But the point of this is for you.

[Mall]

Like, you need to know I'm going.

[Rory]

In as you're my superstar, so you gotta be a superstar.

[Baby D]

I don't like that. I think weddings are for. Actually, weddings aren't for anybody but the guests who get to attend. But I think the wedding should be equal for both the fans. For both. This is important to you? Important to me, whatever. Like, I think that we both should be the star, but I do not like the men who do. I don't like celebrity based men like that shit. That I wouldn't have married him.

[Mall]

I wouldn't have married him.

[Baby D]

I wouldn't have married him. That's embarrassing as fuck. Like, I would have buried him.

[Mall]

That is embarrassing.

[Rory]

No, but what. She probably didn't see it. Like, imagine she gets to the reception like, yo, he did what? Wait, let me see that video.

[Baby D]

Oh, my God, the wedding video. Don't fucking put that in my wedding video.

[Mall]

That was crazy, though. Watching that just now was wild.

[Baby D]

But any that would do that. He corny 24 7. So she knew she marrying a corny. She probably was in the back. Like, he be cool.

[Rory]

Corny. Like, just nice. Just might be a nice guy.

[Mall]

Just save.

[Baby D]

He looks like a nice guy, but.

[Mall]

Save that for the reception. Bro, you playing rap. Walking down like you're not even married yet. Like, this is supposed to be when the party's about to start. Like the. We about to have fun, let loose a little bit. Bride changes her dress and.

[Rory]

And go back to the video. On top of that, like, bro, people still arriving. Like, it's not even full capacity in there yet. It's a lot of empty chairs.

[Baby D]

He said it ain't even full capacity in there.

[Rory]

No, it's not even this part of the party yet. It's a lot of space between everybody.

[Mall]

At the peak of the party, he walked out like, this is SummerSlam.

[Rory]

Like, why he walked out and mismanaged it. There's a full staircase. Go back to 0, 0 again. Look at that staircase. He could have utilized. He could have came down those steps.

[Mall]

Nah, he wanted to come out like stone cold. He came out like stone cold. That's our stone cold walk. That's the Steve Austin walk, right?

[Rory]

He came out like Erica Kirk. Never mind.

[Mall]

Stop.

[Rory]

That's the thing on Twitter. I didn't do it.

[Baby D]

Oh, this is. That's so bad.

[Mall]

Yeah. That's wild.

[Baby D]

Maybe he. Maybe he's special needs.

[Mall]

Yeah. I would think that this would be the official.

[Rory]

Don't do that to people with special needs.

[Baby D]

I'm not doing it.

[Rory]

That's offensive to put that on them.

[Mall]

Yeah. Some of them would never do that.

[Rory]

They'd be looking at this like, what's wrong with radio would be front se. Like, what's wrong with this guy? He ended way too much.

[Mall]

He ended it with.

[Baby D]

Ah. I'm like, maybe this is a parody. Maybe it's a parody. Maybe somebody's filming a sketch.

[Rory]

Yo, look at your man looking back.

[Mall]

Like, that's a nasty. That might be the nastiest wedding interest of all time.

[Baby D]

Yeah, that was disgusting. What y'. All. How y' all going to walk into. Y' all sh. If y' all ever find somebody to deal with you.

[Mall]

I'm not. I'm not walking out. Everybody doesn't rise like. I'm the judge and watch.

[Rory]

Well, you're gonna have to walk there.

[Baby D]

You have to walk like you like you're gonna have to walk there eventually. You have to.

[Mall]

Yeah, but I'm just saying it's not going to be like that. It's not going to be an entrance. Like come from the ceiling. Like the bald girls when they sitting on the thing, they just holding to that big ass bottle.

[Rory]

I definitely want to come from under the stage for sure.

[Mall]

Like, like from the pulit.

[Rory]

No, like, like when Mike came up under the stage.

[Mall]

Like smoke and everything.

[Rory]

Yeah, you know, you know how Chris Brown went like all the way around the stadium on that, that thing? I just want to do that in a Catholic church.

[Mall]

Like Jesus, like he was like in the play around Christmas.

[Baby D]

Have y' all ever imagined y' all wedding? I know women do it. Like I do it every time just to put my. Like when I can't sleep at night. I just imagine.

[Rory]

Yes, but we know that it's. That's not our call. Like we could have. As Chris Rock said, there's no men's bridal magazine. Like we can't even if we have ideas. It's for the woman to decide what she wants for her wedding. She's been thinking about this since she was 2 years old. I subscribed to Slam magazine and East Bay. Like, this hasn't been my dream my whole life.

[Mall]

The furthest thought I've ever had about my wedding is that me and all of my groomsmen will be wearing the Jordan 11s.

[Rory]

Jesus, you're. You're such an 80s, baby.

[Mall]

That's it. That's as far as I got. Everybody gonna have on our Jordan. Our black and white Jordan 11s. That's it. Okay. Haven't given it no other thought. Ma fire.

[Rory]

Is. Is this going to be sponsored by Stockx?

[Mall]

I know some people.

[Rory]

D's going to get his license to marry you.

[Mall]

I know some people, man, we can make it happen.

[Rory]

So does she have to wear the Jordans as well or.

[Mall]

No, she could wear whatever she want. But me and my, my.

[Rory]

That's nice of you to let your wife wear whatever she wants for her wedding.

[Mall]

I mean, just, just for that day. That's it. After that, after we get married, it's what I say, what I say goes. But yeah, that's the most thought I got is like, we're gonna all wear Jordan 11s. Cause all of my. That's like our. Anybody that I think will be my groomsman. That's definitely our favorite sneaker all the time, so why not?

[Baby D]

It's so tacky.

[Mall]

How is that tacky? Hey, it's better if we have old from the Bronx. It's better if we have on, like, all the same shoes.

[Baby D]

Like, yeah, y' all have on all the same shoes. If you wear the Jordan, put some hard bottoms on like a adult.

[Mall]

For what? For what? Just tell me. For what? Get married on the beach barefoot. For what? I'm just saying. For what? Like, tell me what the. Why do we have to do that? Just because that's what they traditionally do.

[Baby D]

Like, why can't the man have a walkout song? Just Cause that ain't what they traditionally do. You was the one bringing up tradition.

[Mall]

That's nasty. To walk out.

[Baby D]

Oh, and I think that wearing them Jordans is nasty.

[Mall]

No, it's not.

[Baby D]

Y' all wanna do that at the reception?

[Mall]

Cool.

[Baby D]

The actual wedding?

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Baby D]

Okay.

[Mall]

Why not?

[Baby D]

Make sure you tell your future wife that at date three.

[Mall]

Oh, she'll know that.

[Rory]

I would say this is like the Irish Bronx version of what mall is saying with a wedding party. This is my pop's wedding party. And everyone had to wear the Irish caps. This. This is their Jordan 11s.

[Mall]

Gangster.

[Rory]

This is. This is that Terminal Bar on Broadway In. In Riverdale, Right? Right across from Van Cortland.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Oh, yeah. I got married at Mount St. Vincent, but yeah, this.

[Baby D]

This. This.

[Rory]

This is what an Irish Bronx wedding party looks like.

[Mall]

Come on, man. See, your pops got it right. He figured it out. Him and the guys.

[Rory]

There's criminals in this.

[Mall]

No, let me. Let me assure you one thing. I had no. No doubt in mind, that two of these gentlemen are wanted fugitives right now. There's no doubt in my mind.

[Rory]

Here's the thing, all right? That's all the way to the left, that's my Uncle Paul. To the right, that's my Uncle Kevin. That's my Uncle Faze. That's my other Uncle Kevin. The other two guys, I have no idea who the. That is the help.

[Mall]

The muscles.

[Baby D]

The muscle.

[Rory]

I have no idea who those two gentlemen.

[Mall]

I was just there to make sure went right. That's what they was there for. The muscle. You know what they are, man?

[Rory]

My. My Uncle Faze all the way in the back. That's how I found out I was related to Colin Quinn at a funeral. I was like, damn, I didn't know we was related.

[Mall]

Look at the guys, man. Man. No, just another day. Listen, so you got to treat your wedding.

[Rory]

And this is. This is how crazy, like the late 80s was. All these guys are young.

[Mall]

Yeah, they look 50. Yeah. How old was your dad when he got married? He's in his 30s.

[Rory]

Nah, nah. Definitely not. I. I don't know the exact age, but yeah, I was.

[Baby D]

This.

[Rory]

This is. This is a bunch of young guys in their 20s in the Bronx. This is how. This is how white people aged it in this era.

[Mall]

That's what the YNs used to look like. Damaris. That's the Y N's right there. Those hats. Those are the Nike text right there.

[Rory]

Oh, for sure. When you saw that, like, you know that that's they shiesty mask.

[Mall]

Was that the peaky blinder hats that they have the blades in the. In the brim? Oh, for sure it did. Okay.

[Rory]

100.

[Mall]

Yeah. See, gotta put the razor blades right there. Smack the out somebody when they say something stupid.

[Rory]

Stupid.

[Mall]

So I'm gonna do the baby D. She keep calling me a.

[Rory]

Apparently. Apparently this, this exact day at the terminal Bar. This was, I think the day before their wedding. My grandfather. God rest. Is so beat this out of somebody in the bar that was talking to my. What's. What's the best man of. For women?

[Baby D]

The maid of honor.

[Rory]

Maid of honor. Some. Some guy was harassing the maid of honor and my grandfather beat. Beat the breaks off to the point that it kind of ruined. Like this was their version of like the. The pre dinner thing. Like the day before they just went to the Terminal Bar in the Bronx.

[Mall]

Just the bachelor party right there.

[Rory]

Like to the point that we didn't know, like they didn't know if my grandfather was gonna make the wedding. Yeah, like, he may be sitting down for a little bit.

[Mall]

That's hilarious.

[Rory]

Yeah. I wish I could have seen this.

[Mall]

Shout out to the guys, man.

[Rory]

And shout out to Riverdale and Josh and his family. I'm sure. I'm sure Josh's parents are somewhere. Somewhere in the back over there.

[Mall]

Right.

[Rory]

Next to Joe's pizza. Peach's family, too, is from Riverdale.

[Mall]

For real.

[Rory]

Peach was born in the Bronx. He'd be trying to do this Kansas.

[Mall]

And I don't like Bronx legend.

[Rory]

Peach is definitely a Bronx legend.

[Mall]

Bronx legends everywhere.

[Baby D]

Y' all see that mustache? That is a Kansas legend.

[Mall]

Nah, that's Bronx.

[Rory]

Wait, go back to my dad's photo. Somebody got that same mustache and they're from the Bronx.

[Mall]

The same bar.

[Rory]

The same bar. He's still there. He only offers one.

[Mall]

Yeah, yeah.

[Rory]

My. That's my godfather, Uncle Kevin. All the way to the right middle. He has that same porn mustache.

[Mall]

Right now, 100%.

[Rory]

Uncle Paul is full Q and on. Now.

[Mall]

I gotta talk.

[Rory]

He went from an Irish Democrat in the Bronx to that. Like, how did this formation happen on Facebook?

[Mall]

It's this, man. It happens. Evolution.

[Rory]

Yeah. What. What do we think? Our first voicemail of the year. Like, do we think someone's gonna set the tone?

[Baby D]

I hope so.

[Mall]

For the year.

[Rory]

Nah, this sets the tone.

[Mall]

That's. This does it? Is it a good one?

[Rory]

I see Taylor at the top. I was on. I was on discord live with 2026 with Taylor, dog. I was talking to Taylor on. On Discord Live over the break.

[Mall]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Rory]

To me. Dorian doing great.

[Mall]

How's it hanging?

[Rory]

See, don't even. I don't even like that. I don't even like that you said that.

[Mall]

Taylor know I love her. That's Taylor know I love her. She know I'm just with her.

[Rory]

Whatever's hanging, she's boiling.

[Mall]

She definitely standardized it for only Discord.

[Rory]

Will understand the truth. She's bo. It's hanging to the left and it's being boiled.

[Mall]

Yeah. Yeah. All right. Shout out to Taylor. So it's from Taylor. Yeah. All right. Sponsored by Boost Mobile. Unlimited talk, text and data. Here's Taylor.

[Rory]

Taylor is sponsored by Boost.

[E]

Happy New Year and all that good stuff. Being that it's the new year, trigger the memory. I wanted to get your take on it. So many moons ago, at least seven years. At least seven years ago, right? Always me and my girl, if that's what you want to call her. We go to my friend's house for a New Year's party. A very close friend of mine, but she's there with her man and her friends. And then just me and my girl be kicking in, having a good time as we do. End of the night, she said that me and my girl, well, my whoever you want to call her that, we can stay. And we did. So we laying up on a futon, middle of the night. I'm hearing cheese getting clapped. Like, my friend is her man. They going in. So I naturally, knowing me, I'm like. I'm, like, aroused. Like. So I talked to my friend, girl, whatever you want to call her, like, yo, like, what's up? What you trying to do? She got offended that I was aroused because it was my friend having sex. Sex in the other room. So she didn't want to do anything with me. I took care of myself. But the question is, is that weird? Like, I'm sure we've all been in situations where our friends have sex in the same room or adjacent. We're all grown. I'm sure it's happened. Like, does it change how you should feel about listening to sex just because you know them. Like what would you guys do in this situation? Would you be upset?

[Baby D]

Would you be with it?

[E]

Like, let me know.

[Mall]

So wait, so the girl that Taylor was with, that's her girlfriend.

[Baby D]

It was her little boo at the time.

[Mall]

Her boo.

[Rory]

And the girl, she made it very clear that that's not her girl, but that's her girl. And the girl we know, that's how Taylor moved.

[Mall]

The girl that was in the room having sex is her homegirl too.

[Rory]

It's her friend.

[Baby D]

It's her homegirl. Yeah.

[Rory]

Not somebody she's fucking. She brought. She brought her namin to her friend's crib for a New Year's party. They ended up staying there and then her. Her homegirl was with her boyfriend and it was New Year's Eve so she got her cheeks clapped. They was in the other room, she heard them making sex noises and it turned her on. And usually I always want to be on. On Taylor's side here, but yeah, you're wrong.

[Baby D]

No, I don't think Taylor's wrong at all. I'm on a complete opposite side of that.

[Mall]

Well, that's cuz you a freak ho. I mean the. The non freak.

[Baby D]

See now I'm going call you a again. Why we being disrespectful going into the new year?

[Mall]

Non freakos. The non freak hoes. That's.

[Rory]

Well hold on, let's. If my friend Freeco and hoe are different. Freeco is more of a compliment. Hoe is an insult.

[Mall]

No, Freeco freako is a bit like.

[Baby D]

It'S a compliment but he keep like stop putting that on me. You don't know that. Don't put that.

[Rory]

A free co is not necessarily a hoe.

[Mall]

No, she's a freeco.

[Baby D]

I'm also not a any. This the point of the conversation. The point of the conversation.

[Mall]

No, if you get aroused hand like if my homeboy is in the room smashing his girl and I'm like in the living room with my, you know, like a girl that I date and we have sex and I get like horny off of. That is a little weird.

[Rory]

Weird.

[Mall]

That's weird.

[Baby D]

I think it's different cuz y' all are men.

[Mall]

That's weird. It's like yo, my homie in this smashing his girl and I'm like yo, it's good. We. Let's do what they doing. Like that's a little. That's. That's kind of crazy.

[Rory]

It's hard. Yeah, cuz it's Hard to speak from this.

[Mall]

It's crazy that she masturbated and got off. Like, still.

[Rory]

She said, you want to do nothing? I'mma pop off on. They probably on a couch. Another bedroom.

[Mall]

Like, that's the.

[Baby D]

The. If you snuck. If you snuck off into the bathroom and got one, I. You real freaked out. You real freaked out. But as long as you didn't let her know. Okay, I don't feel like that's wrong. Like, it is.

[Mall]

Let me. Let me. Let me assure you one thing. Taylor did not go in the bathroom and rub one out. She rubbing one out right on that. That futon.

[Rory]

And. And right before she started. So you're not even my girl.

[Mall]

Yeah, that's. That's. That's. That's too much.

[Rory]

There's no scenario.

[Mall]

You're having sex and you're getting a ride day.

[Rory]

Whatever. In this situation, that makes sense. Because even if, like. Like, even if your homie is his girl in the room next to you, he's not making any noise. She's making noise. It's weird that you're getting turned on by your homie's girlfriend. Sex voice.

[Baby D]

But that's why I said, I think that's odd. I think it's different for men. I think because I'm here, I'm listening to y' all and y'.

[Mall]

All.

[Baby D]

Right. Like, when y' all are talking about it, it feels weird. But I feel like for women, like, I don't think that it's weird. I don't think the sound of hearing someone have sex and that you getting turned on by that. I don't think it was weird if.

[Rory]

You'Re a stranger next door in the hotel or whatever.

[Mall]

Cool.

[Rory]

But that's your friend.

[Mall]

Like, I've been in this situation, right? And my homeboy was having sex with his girl, and, like, you know, they was in there going crazy, whatever. She's making mad noise, yelling. I'm not. I told him the next day, I was like, yo, dawg, like, I get it. Y' all having sex. I was like, that.

[Baby D]

Y' all dragged it.

[Mall]

But your girl making. She know we in the living room, bro. Like, she performing. That's a performance. Like, you know we can hear you. This house ain't been so big. Like, you making all them. No, like, y' all could sneak one. You know, get the quiet little lay on the side. Like, you know, I'm not saying y' all can't have sex in your bedroom, but, like, for your girl to be making that noise, and she know your homies is downstairs.

[Baby D]

Would that also be a nigga thing? Because I've unfortunately seen. I've been privy to whether it was me or somebody else. A man will know his friends are there, and he'll go. He'll do things that make you scream, not even things that are like. Like, inherently. He's doing it for your pleasure. Will go hard to make you scream so that their homeboys can hear you weird. They do. They do.

[Mall]

They're gay.

[Baby D]

They do.

[Rory]

That's. Gay.

[Baby D]

Men are homoerotic. Y' all act like y' all don't know that. I said it all the time. They say, oh, the marriage. Always calling something gay men do homoerotic ass all the time to try to impress.

[Mall]

Oh, no, I'm on. I'm on your side with that. First of all, I think hip hop is one of the most homoerotic cultures in the world. We can have that on the Patreon if y' all want to.

[Rory]

I mean, we did it in a sketch. I made you sit down with a gay man to read rap, so to prove to you that hip hop is.

[Mall]

So. We know that. But, like, yeah, like, bottom started it. I look at. I look at people. When you're having sex with your girl and your girl is too loud and she know your homies can hear her. Come on, bro. Like, what's up, man?

[Rory]

What you.

[Mall]

Why. Why your girl that loud? Like, I get it, but she know we right here in the other room. Like, that's not. Then to get aroused and want to have sex with the girl I'm with off of that. That's crazy. At that point, we might as well be in the same room.

[Baby D]

You drag so bad.

[Mall]

No, I don't know if that's the next. I'm like, that's such a jump, Damaris. If I'm in the next room and you and your boyfriend is in this room.

[Baby D]

Please. Oh, my God.

[Rory]

Stop.

[Josh Whand]

See?

[Baby D]

Stop.

[Mall]

Look how fast. Look how fast.

[Baby D]

Stop.

[Mall]

This is what I'm saying.

[Baby D]

But you're my homeboy. It's different. Like, it's different.

[Mall]

I just feel like you think my homeboy's girlfriend is not my homegirl. Like, that's my. That's sis. At this point. That's my own.

[Rory]

That would make my stomach hurt.

[Mall]

That's girl.

[Baby D]

But y' all are.

[Rory]

That'd be so weird.

[Baby D]

Y' all are men.

[Rory]

Here's. Here's the thing. I'm. It's still weird to me if you do that, period. But I can see that more if, like, y' all are on vacation sharing a hotel suite, and it's just some random chick. And that happens. Your girl at your house? No, I. Like, that's nuts to me.

[Mall]

That's crazy.

[Rory]

That's nuts.

[Mall]

That is crazy.

[Rory]

I still think the latter hotel sheet is weird too, but I guess I can kind of understand that you're. You're queen if you in there slamming.

[Mall]

Cheeks like that, fam. Just. It's a. It's a gangster party at this part. Like, just open the door and we all naked and it.

[Rory]

Cause at that point, when I'm walking down the aisle to. I'm going in all the wedding parties and me think about my girl's sex sounds because they've been there.

[Mall]

That's your friend getting aroused and wanting to have sex with your girl is. That's crazy.

[Baby D]

Again, like I said, I think this. I think Taylor's situation is different because out of the four people in the house, three of them are women. I think it's a completely different scenario. Scenario than what y' all are talking.

[Rory]

Do you think it would be weird? Completely hypothetical. You and Mall are in the same house. You are with your boyfriend.

[Baby D]

Please stop.

[Rory]

And Maul hears that. And Mall gets turned on. Like, do you think that would be okay?

[Baby D]

Please. You're again bringing up men. It's like, I've already agreed with.

[Rory]

Taylor asked us. We're men.

[Baby D]

Yes, okay, I understand that. But what I'm saying is y' all keep arguing with me on my point. I agree with y'.

[Rory]

All.

[Baby D]

When it comes to men, I think that that's weird. I don't think it's weird for Taylor and two other girls to be turned on. Like, two. It's. Two of y' all is gay already. That's number one. And then there's another woman in there. There's only one male in the house.

[Mall]

I think that's a completely gay, though.

[Rory]

Well, we don't know about Taylor's naming.

[Mall]

Because Taylor's been with men before.

[Rory]

Allegedly.

[Mall]

We can't say in 2026.

[Rory]

Bro, she said that out loud.

[Josh Whand]

On.

[Mall]

I mean, take it out. Whatever.

[Rory]

No, it's not. I'm joking.

[Baby D]

He was joking. But yeah, Taylor, I think that if you beat off in front of that girl, you wrong. But I don't think you're weird or your body's weird or, like, it's weird that you got turned on by the sound of hearing people have sex. Especially if you find the friend attractive. If you find a friend attractive. I also don't think that that's weird.

[Rory]

So here's my thing, all right? We've addressed Taylor and her naming. If you're Taylor's friend is getting her back blown in and then find out that you was popping off to meet her friend may not be gay. She's in a relationship. She could just be a straight.

[Mall]

I want to get back to gay.

[Rory]

Or if you find out your friend is popping her pussy to you having sex and you're just a straight woman that just wants to be friends, I feel like the friend would feel a fucking like, yo, what you doing?

[Mall]

I don't want to let Baby D off the hook that easily, though. But why you say it's different for men?

[Baby D]

Because I don't think it's. I don't. I don't know how to put.

[Rory]

Everyone likes women. Not everyone likes women.

[Baby D]

That's kind of what I'm. What I'm saying. Girls do. It's the same way how you won't sit up there and be naked on the phone with your homeboy, but girls who aren't fucking each other will be naked on the phone with each other all the time. It's just a different level when it comes to women in the way that our relationships are.

[Rory]

Because I even know women that are completely, completely straight, but only watch lesbian.

[Baby D]

Porn, like, for example.

[Rory]

And I don't know any man that is straight and just watches skateboarding, for example. It's just. It's different.

[Baby D]

I also think it's different for, like, just the type of relationships that men and women have. I just think it's different. For example, I might get turned on by hearing one of my homegirls have sex with a dude. If I hear Rory have sex with a woman, I'm gonna throw up. But that's equally my homeboy the same way that she's equally my homegirl. But it's complete. The relationship dynamics are completely different.

[Mall]

I don't understand that. I'm sorry.

[Rory]

I'm not that vocal.

[Mall]

I don't understand that.

[Baby D]

Oh, God.

[Mall]

I don't understand that. All right, so is it because you're not sexually attracted to Rory, but if you was sexually attracted. No, I'm asking a serious question. I'm truly attracted.

[Baby D]

I don't even think.

[Mall]

No, not sexually attracted to your friend. Friend. Is sexually attracted to your friend's boyfriend?

[Baby D]

Ew. No. No, it's not that.

[Mall]

Why is that ill? I'm trying to figure out what the difference is.

[Baby D]

It's not that. Because the sound. Because the sound of the man, like, the sound of the man having sex is not the turn on part, the sound of the. The attractive part is the woman. The attractive part is the way the woman sounds. And also some people are sound people when it comes to sex. And some people are visual people. Like there are some people who can't watch sex on TV because the, like, watching sex turns them off, but they like the audience. Audio. Some people get turned on by audio. Some people get turned on by visual. That's another thing.

[Rory]

This is coming from my straight bias, but I could never imagine anyone being turned on by a man's groans.

[Baby D]

Like, that's when there's a lot of women who are. We call them the super straights. The super straights. They love the sound of a man moaning.

[Mall]

Super straights.

[Baby D]

The super straights. Them girls I wouldn't think about, they can't even look at women like that. Super straights.

[Mall]

Okay.

[Rory]

Taylor was wrong, man. And I feel like she was wrong.

[Baby D]

For beating off how she was wrong for.

[Mall]

Yeah, I think she was wrong for getting aroused.

[Baby D]

You can't turn. You can't choose when you're aroused or not. You can't choose that.

[Mall]

Yes, you can.

[Baby D]

You cannot choose when you're aroused, Mal. You cannot choose that. You can choose to act on your arousal, but arousal is a natural body thing. You can't choose to be aroused. You've never, your dick never got hard before and you had to be like, oh, chill out and calm it down. But there's been plenty of times where your dick has gotten hard and you ain't expecting to get hard.

[Rory]

Fucking all of high school, in math.

[Baby D]

Class, class, like, you like, arousal is a natural thing.

[Mall]

I don't know about that. I think you choose to get aroused in that moment. Like if, if my friend is having sex and I get aroused, it's not because sex is happening. I'm choosing like, damn, I ain't going to lie. I'm trying to do what he ain't there doing. And I got a girl with me. I'm choosing to get aroused. Like, if you sitting on the couch and your friends are in the room.

[Rory]

Wouldn'T you be aroused of the girl that you're next to if you wanted to her? I don't think my man's moans is going to make me wasn't aroused. I should fuck this girl.

[Baby D]

You wasn't aroused.

[Mall]

It's not your man's moans, just the fact that, that somebody's having sex right here in the next room and you like, we all in the same house together. Like, you might just get aroused in that moment. We might have been just chilling on the couch. I'm not aroused. I hear y' all start having sex now. I want to have sex. That's a choice.

[Baby D]

N. Wouldn't even think about sex before you heard that nigga clapping.

[Mall]

That's what I'm saying. To me that you're choosing that. Like, I just. I don't. I don't know. That's just friends. I don't care if a friend. My homeboy's having sex with his girl. There's no way I'm getting aroused off of that. It's not happening.

[Rory]

You think Taylor dapped homie when he came out the room?

[Mall]

No, I don't. I don't think so. No, I don't think so.

[Rory]

I feel like she would owe him that at least.

[Mall]

Yeah, he.

[Baby D]

He.

[Mall]

He inspired her. He inspired. He inspired her to rub one out. Rubbing one out is crazy.

[Baby D]

That was wild.

[Rory]

Especially, like, did she leave the room?

[Mall]

Where was she?

[Rory]

Yo, imagine if you don't want to and you're hearing two people that you don't really know like that because you were brought here as the plus one over there. Then your girl starts touching her pussy. It's like you just sitting here around a bunch of horny. Like, anybody horny, but you. You just sitting there like, yo, what the fuck?

[Mall]

Yeah, that's crazy. That gotta be a crazy situation.

[Baby D]

Yeah, she was. She was wrong for. For everyone out. But I'm not. I'm not blaming you for getting aroused by hearing people have sex. A lot of people get aroused by hearing people have sex. Like, I don't think you're worried about that.

[Rory]

No, I. I think that's fine. Just not my friends.

[Mall]

Not my friends.

[Rory]

And, like, that's my friend's girl.

[Mall]

Crazy.

[Rory]

Like, no, I think I'm cool.

[Mall]

Yeah. Like, my friend's girl, like, they all in there having sex, and I get aroused. That's wild.

[Rory]

I don't even like to hear when people are telling me that they're trying for kids. Like, that's an awkward conversation. Like, yeah, we're trying right now. Like, I don't need to know how much y'. All.

[Mall]

Yeah, maybe. You know what? Maybe that is uncomfortable because I'm the same. I'm like, I don't want to hear that, man. I don't want to hear my homie and his girl. Y' all in there trying to have a b. I don't. I don't want to hear that. Like, I'm.

[Baby D]

And I'm sure Taylor settles her home. Girl. I doubt it's A super, super close friend. Cuz hearing your super, super close friend get banged, it's like. It probably was like an associate that she thinks is attractive.

[Rory]

You would let Taylor come in the room and watch?

[Baby D]

No. The thought of somebody watching me have sex makes me cringe. I'm not one of those people.

[Rory]

Yeah, I turned that down once, know I would have felt weird.

[Mall]

Taylor wanted to watch you have sex? No. Oh, I'm about to say. What the. What. What live show was this? I want to say.

[Rory]

Wait, what happened was after the Dallas show, Taylor.

[Baby D]

I've never seen a mask.

[Rory]

If she could watch me and somebody I was dealing with again, I'm really serious. This was like seven, eight years ago. Asked if she could watch us, and I was like, no, that's weird.

[Mall]

They're like, you watch with your hands. That's what I would have said. You watch naked, you gotta get naked, though. You can watch, but you gotta be naked. Other than if not, it's just weird. Like, we having sex and we look over and it's a girl with like, a jacket on.

[Rory]

If it was like a stranger, cool. But this person, like, is a friend of mine to this day, and I feel like that just would have been weird.

[Mall]

No, I mean, she want to on focus.

[Rory]

No, I don't think she want to me.

[Mall]

Yeah, he fumbled a Tracy. He fumbled a Tracy. You didn't even know you had the Tracy sitting right there for you.

[Rory]

I talk. I talk Israel Palestine. My Tracy. You talking to the God right now.

[Mall]

Yo, you fumbled the Tracy, man. Come on. She wanted to join B. You know that she. But she ain't know how to ask.

[Rory]

But I didn't. No, that was a friend. I don't want to. Like, I didn't want to.

[Mall]

My friend, I. I understand that's not.

[Baby D]

Worth P over here. PE over here with a wuss, yo.

[Mall]

Nah, Yeah, I know what it is. You wasn't sexually attracted to her. Cause I got friends.

[Rory]

She's always been my friends, so it's not like I've never even had.

[Mall]

I got those friends, too. That's my homegirls that I never, ever did anything. And if I had a girl and I was about to go outside and she was like, I wanna watch y'. All. I got a few homegirls. I'm like, hell, yeah. And homegirls.

[Rory]

Oh, yeah, those exist.

[Baby D]

You the reason why they think that women and men can't be friends.

[Mall]

Nah, that's not true. I got a whole bunch of homegirls that's like. Like, fine as fuck. That's literally my homegirls. But if I'm about to have sex and one of my homegirls. That's gorgeous. Tell me they want to come watch me and the girl have sex, I'm not going to be like, nah, you know what I'm saying? I ain't you my homegirl.

[Baby D]

The friendship more than the man.

[Mall]

Hurry up. Take your shit off. Hurry up.

[Rory]

But also, the woman I was dealing with was. I know. Super straight. Like, she wasn't. It wouldn't have been. It wouldn't have added up to a threesome. I know that. It just would have been weird.

[Mall]

Okay.

[Baby D]

Oh, so she wants to you.

[Rory]

No, I think she's bisexual and wanted to watch the girl I was. I think she just wanted to see the girl I was dealing with. You said the girl you were. I don't think she wanted to see me naked. I think she want to see that girl naked again.

[Baby D]

Oh, you said the girl you were dealing with was super straight. That's. Oh, okay, okay.

[Rory]

Oh, no, the friend was. Is super bisexual.

[Baby D]

Okay.

[Rory]

And I don't think she wanted to me. I think she just wanted to see that girl get.

[Baby D]

Ah, that's some people's kink.

[Rory]

Which I. I don't judge Taylor's. Taylor probably allow somebody, a woman that's attracted to do that. Just not a friend. Because now it's weird.

[Baby D]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Baby D]

Taylor, you're not wrong for your voyeurism, King, but you need to be more. You got to get somebody who's on the same wave.

[Rory]

That's sound. That's not even like. That's not Voyager. They couldn't watch.

[Mall]

She was just listening.

[Baby D]

Well, you're kind of part.

[Mall]

I guess rubbing one out while your girl is just sitting there not wanting to have sex is crazy.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mall]

Cause like, what if I do that? What if I'm with my girl, she don't want to have sex. And I just thought like, you know what I'm saying?

[Baby D]

Thank you for leaving me alone.

[Mall]

That's not crazy.

[Baby D]

No, thank. Thank you for leaving me alone.

[Mall]

Nah, that's wild.

[Baby D]

Thank you for. If you ask me and I'm like, no, I'm not in the mood. Leave me alone. And you rub one out. I don't give a fuck. I will wrap my little pinky toe around yours for some extra stimulation. Just leave me the fuck alone.

[Mall]

I think yo Damaris is crazy. I always knew she was crazy, but that right there just solidified it. You not mad if he start jerking off, but you gonna play footsies with him? While he doing it.

[Baby D]

Yep. Cause I could do that half asleep.

[Mall]

Oh, she don't like that.

[E]

No.

[Baby D]

I've just been in relationships for a very. I've been in long term relationships. Sometimes you don't want to have sex.

[Mall]

No. You for sure that thing.

[Baby D]

But just because you horny and you want to nut and. And I'm not in the mood do your thing. Because when it's my turn and you don't want to have sex, baby, you ain't one monkey ain't stopping on their show. So.

[Mall]

But no man is ever like yes.

[Baby D]

That happens all the time. We've had this conversation on this exact podcast.

[Mall]

You've been horny and it happens all the time.

[Baby D]

When you in a long relate a relationship for a long time.

[Rory]

Believe that in 2025 nigg flus don't.

[Baby D]

Feel like like got the flu got. You know what I'm saying? RSV going on.

[Rory]

I'm gassy that day.

[Mall]

I done had the flu. All kind of stomach ache. One thing I ain't never been too sick to do one. One thing I ain't never been too under the weather for was some y' all tripping.

[Rory]

You remember when Larry David tried to Cheryl on curb. What are you doing? He's like, I didn't know.

[Mall]

Yeah. No. If she has the FL flu then you should just let her rest.

[Rory]

No, Larry wants to grab the tip. Like wait. We not.

[Mall]

I'm letting any woman know that I'm dating. If I have the flu and you want to come in here suck me off. Please do. I'm not stopping it. Don't leave me alone. I need all the nourishment. Please.

[Rory]

And I got to get this out of me. Yeah.

[Mall]

This is probably why I'm sick. I need to flush.

[Rory]

Yeah. It's not just the pores that I need to.

[Mall]

No, it's a whole thing. It's a whole head to toe there's.

[Rory]

And we can close of course the horny cast out in 2026. I'm starting to realize that I think there's way too many levels to the voyeurism thing because I used to think we're all kind of voyager because we watch porn. But I've been across the street from this hotel from a building I've been staying in and it's a lot of people that fuck and it's gross. I don't want to watch. I think people think voyeurs are that way because they watch attractive people have sex. That's like 1% of the population on porn.

[Mall]

That's like, when people want to go to a new beach, they think it's going to be, like, the prettiest women.

[Rory]

You think a bunch of bad is going to the nude beach?

[Mall]

No, it's everybody that's at that hotel.

[Rory]

Like, I wish they would turn the lights off across the street. Anytime I go to club, I'm like, oh, y' all are gross.

[Mall]

Anybody?

[Rory]

Fat bodies just rubbing against it.

[Baby D]

I would still watch with binoculars. Even fat, ugly, old people.

[Rory]

I was, oh, then you're a lawyer for sure.

[Baby D]

I'm nosy. That's why I thought I was just nosy. I wouldn't even be turned out. I would just be like, oh, what y' all doing? Nosy.

[Rory]

And everyone's not a porn star. Just clapping cheeks. Some people are just laying belly to belly.

[Mall]

That's the best right there.

[Rory]

That's my style.

[Mall]

That's how you get to know them.

[Rory]

I don't think anyone should watch.

[Baby D]

That's how you get to know them.

[Mall]

Yeah, you got to make your belly buttons connect. That's how you get to know something.

[Baby D]

Thank you so much, everybody, for tuning.

[Rory]

In to the new podcast.

[Mall]

That's the third eye, right?

[Rory]

You think? The umbilical cord.

[Mall]

You don't even see me. You don't see me.

[Rory]

You don't even know the.

[Baby D]

Come on.

[Rory]

You don't even know the math inside.

[Mall]

You seen Avatar? You see when they put the tail inside the. What you think that is? Let me put my tail inside you.

[Rory]

You know what I'm saying?

[Mall]

You're mine now.

[Baby D]

Thank you, everybody, for listening to us for our first episode of 2020.

[Rory]

When was the last time y' all saw Audi belly button?

[Mall]

Audi? They don't make those no more.

[Baby D]

They still got them.

[Rory]

Yo, you realize there's a whole generation of kids that never saw Audi belly button?

[Mall]

Who got an Audi? Women don't even barely have belly buttons no more.

[Rory]

The Audi, they belly buttons just be moving.

[Mall]

Yeah. You know, nobody got an Audi. You got an out. You still walking around with an Audi. Come on, fam. What you doing, though?

[Rory]

When did. When did Audis go away?

[Mall]

I want to say at least early 2000s, 2002. 3.

[Baby D]

When the doctor stopped people up the Audi.

[Mall]

Having the Audi is crazy. I remember the first time a girl show. Yo, we'll talk to y'. All.

[Rory]

It was kind of, we can do.

[Baby D]

It on the live.

[Rory]

Do it on the live. One thing in closing. I grew up around a lot of kids that were adopted. All the kids that were adopted or in group homes had Audi Belly buttons.

[Baby D]

Probably a hernia.

[Rory]

Like we need to look into that.

[Mall]

It's a hernia. Yeah. So us.

[Rory]

What you mean it's a hernia? I thought they just pulled the umbilical cord too fast and it stayed out.

[Mall]

That's what you thought happened?

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Baby D]

No, he. I've been trying to end this episode for 17 minutes. Please.

[Mall]

Yo, prayers to Wiz Khalifa. They got my man Wiz locked up in Romania on that little charge. Your Wiz?

[Rory]

What's the charge?

[Mall]

He probably had weed. Drug possession.

[Rory]

All right, so are we going to trade the Venezuelan president for drug.

[Mall]

I think that's what happened. I think that's what happened already.

[Rory]

I keep telling you, I love you to death. Please, let's not trade any arms dealers.

[Mall]

Don't sit down for not much. We not trading. Keep your commissary full of the world's most dangerous. For y', all, man. For weed. Y' all keep going to these weird countries with these weird drug laws.

[Rory]

Leave the vape at home.

[Mall]

Leave the oil pens, leave the weed. You just relax for a couple days and then get back to Cali and smoke all you want, but nah. Hopefully, you know, Wiz get through this. Nine months. Months. And he's. Yeah.

[Rory]

I mean, at that point, he don't.

[Mall]

Got to do no time.

[Rory]

He's here. He just can't go back.

[Mall]

He just can't go back to Romania.

[Rory]

If he goes back, who the.

[Mall]

Yo Wiz don't need to go to Romania.

[Rory]

I mean, if everyone starts following suit with the United States, Romania might just fly over here and scoop him up.

[Mall]

Imagine that.

[Rory]

Romania.

[Baby D]

Come.

[Rory]

Come with us.

[Mall]

Come on. You owe us nine months. F. All right, we'll talk to y' all soon. Be safe. Be blessed. Happy New Year. Yeah. No worrying now, Mall.

[Rory]

Random little charges hit you all the time. Coffee, delivery fees, even a plant that you don't like.

[Mall]

Exactly. Life doesn't come with a budget app, but the Clara card feels like it should.

[Rory]

It's your debit card upgraded. Use your money. Choose how to pay upfront now or plan ahead to pay later.

[Mall]

Still responsible, just smarter. It works anywhere Visa is accepted. Zero credit impact.

[Rory]

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[Mall]

Klarna card. Pay later. Plans issued by Webbank. Deposits in your balance account are held at Webbank, member fdic. Anywhere Visa is accepted, certain merchant product, goods, and service restrictions apply. Some merchants do not accept virtual cards. Physical card only included with a paid Klarna membership plan.

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[Baby D]

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