Episode 442 | The Fall Off

Summary

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New Rory & MAL – Episode 442 | “The Fall Off” (January 15, 2026)

Podcast Theme:
The episode is centered on J. Cole’s announcement of his long-awaited album, The Fall Off, discussing the album’s themes, rollout, possible features, rap beef context, fan anticipation, and initial reactions to new music snippets and visuals. The crew (Rory, Mal, Peach Josh, and Baby D) dissect the significance of the drop, J. Cole’s place in hip-hop, fan expectations post-beef, and what makes this release pivotal.

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Main Discussion Points & Insights

1. J. Cole’s “The Fall Off” Announcement

• The Fall Off is officially dropping February 6, 2026, after lengthy rumors and delays (03:03).
• Cole teased the album with a visual snippet, amping up excitement but withholding full tracks.

Quote:

“As of January 14, he announces that on February 6, we will be getting The Fall Off. He dropped a teaser with a little snippet in there, cut it off right before he started rapping. I’m excited, man.”
—Rory (01:38)

• The crew jokes about the hype and purchasing the $50 vinyl, calling out fan dedication (Damaris/“Baby D” bought a copy from her hospital bed).

2. Expectations & Rumors About Features

• Rumored features included artists who had ‘fallen off’ from their peak—Cam’ron, Waka Flocka, and speculation surrounding a Kendrick Lamar feature.
• The hosts debate whether Cole will go platinum with no features again or bring in guests (06:56).

Quote:

“While I think there’s a Kendrick feature on here, I think that may be the only feature, or there’s zero features. I’m starting to change my mind as the time goes, and I think there may be zero features.”
—Rory (06:56)

3. Cole’s Recent Rap Beef & Its Artistic Fallout

• Big focus on Cole’s response (or lack thereof) in his beef with Kendrick Lamar and Drake, specifically his “might delete later” track and on-stage apology.
• Peach Josh questions the optics of including Kendrick as a feature after previous tension.

Quote:

“You think that that wouldn’t be crazy? Everything, the optics, everything that’s happened... You don’t think that’s crazy?”
—Peach Josh (07:48)

• Rory argues for creative freedom and real-life complexity in reconciling after beef.

4. Can J. Cole Still “Talk Greasy”?

• The crew debates whether Cole can credibly claim he’s the top rapper post-beef.
• Peach Josh asserts that after apologizing and bowing out, Cole can’t return to boastful, adversarial bars.

Quote:

“I’m just saying you can’t be talking the way you were talking before the beef... you can’t apologize when a rapper calls you out...and then get back to talking like you wanna fade on the next album.”
—Peach Josh (13:09)

• Rory counters that the album’s concept allows for self-referential, even contradictory, content.

5. Anticipated Themes: Reflection vs. Beef

• The hosts want a more reflective Cole album, addressing his career longevity, close calls with irrelevance, and personal growth.
• Less emphasis hoped for direct continuation of the rap beef—Rory: “I think he’s going to address it once on the album…Then move on.” (12:10)

Quote:

“By choice, we’re not retiring Cole. Cole would retire himself. I’d like a reflective album, especially after the last few years, but the last 15 years.”
—Rory (19:57)

6. Fan Loyalty & Nostalgia

• Jokes about fans giving Cole a “pass” for anything due to emotional attachment since college days (15:17).
• Baby D, recovering from surgery, claims the album is a literal motivation to heal:

“I literally had nothing to live for, and then boom, something for. Like, this is amazing.” (26:22)

7. Predictions: Album Structure & Sound

• Debates about possible double-disc format after seeing “disc two, track two” in the snippet (47:22).
• Desire for a “bop”—a true hit single among introspective tracks (22:00, 52:49).
• Feature wishlist: JID, 21 Savage (Baby D’s pick, but unlikely per Rory); skepticism about Dreamville crew or Freddie Gibbs involvement (32:19–34:43).

8. First Reactions to New Snippet & Visuals

• The crew watches Cole’s new video drop in real time, noting its “Nas ‘Rewind’ angle”—the narrative moves backward from now to early in Cole’s life (45:01).
• Uncertainty about which songs will make the album and which are just for rollout.
• Peach Josh critiques Cole’s confidence if he returns to battle-related bars:

“I cannot listen to J. Cole say he’s the Unibrow Unabomber. Like, I can’t hear that confidence. I don’t believe you.” (48:33)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments (with Timestamps)

• On J. Cole’s announcement & excitement:
  “I’m very excited that we’re finally getting The Fall Off… I liked the concept of this album… two more weeks.” (02:50)
• On fan dedication:
  “She couldn’t wait to get healthy to buy a vinyl. We don’t even offer health insurance here.” (01:46),
  “With shipping and handling, somewhere around $70. So that’s like two meals I can’t eat this month. But it’s fine. I don’t care.” —Baby D (28:18)
• On whether the Kendrick feature post-beef is “crazy”:
  “Why would it be weird for them to continue to work on music? Yo, hey, I was wrong.” (08:51)
• On post-beef credibility:
  “It better be a lot of ‘Love Yours’ on here. It better be 14 tracks of ‘Love Yours’… You can’t be talking the way you were talking before the beef.” (13:02)
• On Cole's reflective side:
  “I want him to reflect on everything that has happened. This is the type of Cole I would like at this time.” (18:56)
• On the Nas “Rewind” homage in Cole’s video:
  “I love the Nas rewind that he’s on… we’re literally reversing from The Fall Off to the first project. I don’t think that song is going to be on the album, by the way… a cool way to do the rollout.” (45:01)
• On possible album format:
  “So is this a double disc?... Big risk. I like the confidence, Cole.” (47:26)
• Peach Josh’s skepticism:
  “But you can’t end that with uni Unibrow, Unabomber equipped with armor. What armor you was equipped with? Who did you bomb on?” (53:23)
• On hip-hop fun and music mattering most:
  “If that J. Cole and Kendrick song is incredible, hypothetically, yeah, no one’s going to care… If your music is good, nobody gives a fuck.” (17:35)

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Featured Guest: Baby D Check-In

Timestamps: 25:55–40:11, 59:29+

• Reports from bed rest, literally praying for something to get excited about, finds it in the J. Cole announcement.
• Buys the vinyl despite “two meals I can’t eat”; brands Feb 6 as new Valentine’s Day for Cole fans.
• Offers feature hopes, jokes about not being able to do anything “important” until bed rest ends (28:43), and shares what it’s like being a stan on social media.

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Fan Dynamics, Loyalty Jokes, and Social Media

• Mocking male fans for getting overexcited (“you cannot scream as a grown man” —35:57).
• The crew exposes playful bias and nostalgia that color all their J. Cole takes (“He can’t do wrong because y’all was doing your laundry listening to him,” 15:17).
• Baby D details what it’s like to be on social from the hospital, poking fun at the “clipping” culture around hot takes (36:29).

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Final Segment: Real-Time Reaction to Cole’s Visual

Timestamps: 45:01–59:06

• Live first experience with Cole’s “Rewind”-inspired video.
• Debates fly about whether various teases and tracks are on the album, if it’s a double disc, and whether Cole’s “Unibrow Unabomber” confidence is earned after the beef saga.
• Some hosts see deeper Cole stanning and reference knowledge as key to “getting” the artistic choice.

Quote:

“I feel like a kid again. I miss hip hop. Hip hop used to be fun… I’m gonna listen to this 30 times tonight.”
—Rory Mall (54:44)

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Episode Vibe & Tone

• Conversational, playful, thick with inside jokes and light self-deprecation.
• Heavy on hip-hop culture, nostalgia, and scrutiny of “authenticity” post-rap beef.
• Jokes and side convos keep the energy casual—while grounding in serious music critique.

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Summary Table of Key Timestamps

| Time | Segment/Highlight | |-------------|--------------------------------------------------------------| | 01:38 | J. Cole’s The Fall Off officially announced | | 06:56 | Rumors & speculation re: features and album composition | | 12:22–13:09 | Debate: Can Cole still “talk greasy”? | | 19:57 | Calls for a “reflective” Cole album | | 22:00+ | Predicting a “bop” on the album | | 26:22 | Baby D on album as her healing motivation | | 28:18 | Ordered the vinyl despite bedrest & cost | | 45:01 | Real-time reaction to Cole’s Nas “Rewind” homage video | | 47:22 | Speculation: Is this a double-disc album? | | 54:44 | Rory on nostalgia & excitement for hip-hop | | 36:29+ | Social media & hip-hop stan culture |

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For those who haven’t listened:
This episode distills fan anticipation, nuanced expectations, and high-level debates among hip-hop heads as J. Cole sets the stage for The Fall Off. From heartfelt stanning to critical questions about authenticity and beef, the crew covers it all—delivering excitement, skepticism, camaraderie, and the messy love that comes with being a true rap fan when history’s being made in real time.

Transcript

[Baby D]

This is an iHeart podcast. Guaranteed Human.

[Peach Josh]

The volume.

[Baby D]

No worry about.

[Rory Mall]

Yeah, that tea is hot. Don't be quiet now.

[Peach Josh]

It's getting chilly outside.

[Rory Mall]

It's n. It's time.

[Peach Josh]

It is.

[Rory Mall]

It's scary hours. This is the scariest hour I've ever been a part of. Yeah.

[Peach Josh]

Very scared. Couldn't get no sleep.

[Rory Mall]

He wanted War Games only got more pain. Who is that about? Poor thing.

[Peach Josh]

How you feeling, man? You good?

[Rory Mall]

I'm excited. Yeah, I'm very excited.

[Peach Josh]

What's going on?

[Rory Mall]

So you were talking about J. Cole. You can apologize to me because I know you want this to be the apologize to mall episode. Now you can apologize to me for saying, hey, I think you were talking about jcole. And you were like, no way I was talking about jcole.

[Peach Josh]

No, I said.

[Rory Mall]

You said, poor thing wanted War Games, only got more pain.

[Peach Josh]

It's quoting lines already.

[Rory Mall]

Yeah, off the snippet classic. Do we think it's the intro? I bet it is hot.

[Peach Josh]

That's hot.

[Rory Mall]

Yeah, man, I'm sure that it's hot for Iceman. I got peas left, yo. Why are you so quiet? It's a podcast.

[Peach Josh]

No, I was. I thought you was getting this.

[Rory Mall]

Now, listen, I'm. I'm just a avid hip hop fan that's excited for music. That's.

[Peach Josh]

That's all. Yes. New music. It's always good to have new music. You know that.

[Rory Mall]

Well, okay. I mean, I won't apologize to you because I. I didn't. I didn't wrong you, you know, I.

[Peach Josh]

Don'T need an apology.

[Rory Mall]

But, yes, we. We. We had heard that maybe Cole would be dropping on Christmas. That didn't happen last week. Thought maybe it could happen today. As of January 14, he announces that on February 6, we will be getting the fall off. He dropped a teaser with. With a little snippet in there, Cut it off right before he started rapping. I'm excited, man. Vinyls, $50. I already saw Damaris. She's in the hospital and already posted her receipt. She. She couldn't wait to get healthy to buy a vinyl. We don't even offer health insurance here.

[Peach Josh]

She better have her ass in here.

[Rory Mall]

It's like she needs to save her money.

[Peach Josh]

She better have her ass in here. Monday, it's gonna be another fall off.

[Rory Mall]

Yeah, that's crazy. And we will call Jamaris in a second. But no, I don't like you now playing coy now that the mics are on. Like, what's up, man? Wars back on.

[Peach Josh]

What War.

[Rory Mall]

But guess who ain't Gonna crack. Part of me had to laugh at that.

[Peach Josh]

Why y' all trying to do this another year, man. Why do what?

[Rory Mall]

We can't be excited that one of the greatest rappers of our generation.

[Peach Josh]

Yes.

[Rory Mall]

Is putting out his most anticipated album.

[Peach Josh]

Yes.

[Rory Mall]

He did the intro to the fall off on KOD, which was.

[Baby D]

I don't know.

[Rory Mall]

I think I was 11 when that came out.

[Peach Josh]

Yeah.

[Rory Mall]

It's been 30 years since then. Yeah. I am very excited that we're finally getting Paul off. I liked. I didn't know who was this. This just dropped, so. Forgive us for fact checking. I don't know who's speaking in this trailer, but the voiceover is alluding to the fact that. Yeah, man, people get famous and then they fall off, but we don't even focus on what it even takes to get to a point where you can fall off, like, the most. The people that fall off, like, dog. At least you got to that point. Thought it was a really cool trailer. I like the concept of this album, but, I mean, I'm ecstatic. Two more weeks.

[Peach Josh]

Yeah. I'm looking forward to it.

[Rory Mall]

No, you're not.

[Peach Josh]

I am. Why, y'? All. Well, you know, I'm looking forward to this album. You know, I'm looking.

[Rory Mall]

Should we do a listening party?

[Peach Josh]

I don't know if we're doing all of that, but, yeah, I'm looking forward.

[Rory Mall]

We should drive to North Carolina and.

[Peach Josh]

Listen to it there. In North Carolina? Yeah, yeah.

[Rory Mall]

Just in the street. Just drive to North Carolina. Yeah.

[Peach Josh]

Drive the Durham.

[Rory Mall]

Go past Fayetteville. Just find a. A town and just. Just listen.

[Peach Josh]

Listen to it. Yeah. We can really understand and feel the music.

[Rory Mall]

Okay. I know you want to deny on Mike that you were talking about JCole or. Of course, a good journalist would never give up their sources. I think that's like journalism 101. Unless you're talking about Watergate or some. But have you heard anything about what is on this album since you did have some knowledge to when it would be released?

[Peach Josh]

Yeah, I heard some things about it. I mean, nothing.

[Rory Mall]

Share any of those.

[Peach Josh]

I mean, I didn't. Nothing. Like, I didn't hear no music, anything like that.

[Rory Mall]

But, you know, some of the content, maybe some of the features. Maybe that's how you know.

[Peach Josh]

I don't know about any features.

[Rory Mall]

Okay.

[Peach Josh]

I don't know about any features. And honestly, I don't care to know. I'd rather just hear it when I hear it. Like, yeah, I don't really care to know about, you know, that much detail in it, but I did Hear that the album was dropping, was slated to drop last week, but obviously February 6th is the official date. Now. Don't know if it was pushed or whatever, but I had videos, very good information that it was slated to drop January 9th.

[Rory Mall]

I mean, the vinyl game is much different. They get turned over quickly. Especially if you're somebody like JCole.

[Peach Josh]

Yeah.

[Rory Mall]

That can afford to turn vinyls over very quickly.

[Peach Josh]

That.

[Rory Mall]

I mean, great strategy this far out to start selling vinyls because your first week numbers will be great.

[Peach Josh]

Yeah.

[Rory Mall]

Especially if you're someone like Cole. I could see vinyls being a thing, though, regardless of. Of maybe having to push to. When, you know, this trailer could have been.

[Peach Josh]

He understands the optics. Like you said, most anticipated album it would be. It would be a good to have this on vinyl as well.

[Rory Mall]

Yeah.

[Peach Josh]

This is a collect. This is obviously gonna be a collector's piece that a lot of his fan base is probably gonna wanna have. And then people like ourselves, we just. We've been into vinyl, you know, for some years now. So. Yeah, so I think that it's, you know, it's a smart move, but either way, happy that we finally got an official release date from Cole himself. So, yeah, now we get to sit back and wait in anticipation to hear one of the best rappers of his generation hear what they did.

[Rory Mall]

Can I be like a. A YouTuber Redditor person? I. I kind of feel like you may have been right with the Christmas thing based off the date. I. I think you were wrong last week. 26:26 is the date, and then 25:25 with the Christmas sh. I think that it was either Christmas or this date is what I think Cole was going for. I don't think he would have passed up 2626 for last week, in my opinion. But I'm a nerd. I like, like that.

[Peach Josh]

You think it's any like. Do you think that.

[Rory Mall]

I just think it's the fact that.

[Peach Josh]

I was born on the 26th. You think that he kind of made that, like, part of it? You think he went that deep or you think that he got that. That introspect? Do you think he really went.

[Rory Mall]

I'm.

[Peach Josh]

I don't.

[Rory Mall]

That's how intelligent I am. I didn't even realize what I just did. See, I didn't even know that.

[Peach Josh]

Let me. Let me be very clear before anybody clips that joking when I say that, because that is the nastiest. I don't want people to even think that. I think that that is completely a joke. But you said 26:26 yeah.

[Rory Mall]

I don't mind repeating myself. Based off our last fall off conversation, a few months ago, before the whole date situation, it was a rumor that was out there. It's not something that I am saying from behind the scenes. There were a lot of rumors that it was heavily featured on the fall off with artists that have, quote, unquote, fell off. I. E. There was a rumor there was a cam' Ron feature, a Waka Flocka feature. Like he was picking artists from that era that, you know, had a height. Still legends in their own right. But going off the fall off concept, I do think that was real at one point. I think it's scrapped. And while I think there's a Kendrick feature on here, I think that may be the only feature or there's zero features. I'm starting to. I'm starting to change my mind as the time goes, and I think there may be zero features.

[Peach Josh]

Can we act like these mics aren't in front of us right now?

[Rory Mall]

For sure.

[Peach Josh]

Can I ask you a question as my friend?

[Rory Mall]

Of course.

[Peach Josh]

Do you think if Kendrick is on this album, do you think that. You really think that's not crazy? That wouldn't be crazy to you? Beyond. Let's just have an honest conversation. Fuck these mics and these cameras. It's just you and us.

[Rory Mall]

I just want to talk about how much I love.

[Peach Josh]

We're in the Audi. We're in the Audi. We're in the Audi. Listen, listen. We're in the Audi.

[Rory Mall]

I said Kendrick on there. I meant, like, it'd be great to hear they owe us a Collab album since 2010.

[Peach Josh]

Rory, we're in.

[Rory Mall]

Since. Since Higher Power on session 80.

[Peach Josh]

Yes. We're in the Audi right now. It's just you and I talking.

[Rory Mall]

I don't drive an Audi. True.

[Peach Josh]

Wearing the. The Mazda. You think that. You think that that wouldn't be crazy, But everything, the optics, everything that's happened.

[Rory Mall]

Going to allow me to, like, answer how I feel without chastising me for how I actually feel.

[Peach Josh]

Okay, we're in the Mazda. Keep that in mind. We're in the Mazda. We're on. Well, am I looking at. We're on Jamaica Ave in the mod.

[Rory Mall]

Am I looking through Jermaine Cole's eyes or.

[Peach Josh]

No, Rory's eyes.

[Rory Mall]

Okay, but here's the thing. I'm in retrospect. Cole made a smarter decision with how everything went. I personally am dumb. So once I put out my delete later, I'm sitting on that shit. And we're just here now and it's going to continue on with war. But now that he had made that decision, no, I don't think it's crazy at all for Kendrick to be on it because he said his piece on that stage. This is my brother. I feel really weird dissing him, and it made me sick to my stomach. Why would that be odd? Friends make mistakes towards each other. He straight up said, yo, that's my brother. I don't want to diss him. Why would it be weird for them to continue to work on music? Yo, hey, I was. I was wrong.

[Peach Josh]

You know, Kendrick dissed him first.

[Rory Mall]

I. Well, I won't call it this, but.

[Peach Josh]

And this is where the Internet clips me and makes it seem like I'm bitter and I'm all of these things.

[Rory Mall]

Oh, no. But I came on here after the, like that verse and said, hey, Cole, Drake clock is on. They both should have replied, but Cole made his decision. I don't think it's odd after what he said on stage to go work with Kendrick Lamar. Hey, I don't even want to do this. I'm cool.

[Peach Josh]

Which is fine, right?

[Rory Mall]

I just want to make music. But then my friends and you're my friend, let's make music. I don't think that's what now. Do I think it'd be weird? Do I think it's not weird if Drake is like, yo, that I don't want to work with you, Cole anymore? Based off that, I wouldn't think Drake was weird there. But I also don't think it's weird that Cole want to go work with Kendrick, and I still hate that. In January 14, 2026, this is the conversation we're having about a J. Cole. I don't care that much anymore, all right? I like. I just want to hear a good album. That's all I care about.

[Peach Josh]

Same Me too. I want a good album. I was just asking, like, just us and the Mazda just kicking it as homies. Like, yo, you don't think that's crazy?

[Rory Mall]

I vocally said I thought it was crazy what he said on stage, but I'm not J. Cole. And he is entitled as the legend that he is to do whatever the he wants to do, and he made a decision. So I don't think it's odd if you have Kendrick Lamar on your album.

[Peach Josh]

Okay.

[Rory Mall]

I don't think it's weird at all. What? I mean, I don't know. Is it weird after I left condoms on your baby seat that we get black Republican? Where do you draw the line?

[Peach Josh]

No, it's not weird, because both of those gentlemen engaged in the art of battle, which is.

[Rory Mall]

Both of them did. And then Cole backed out. Might delete later exists Jay and Nas.

[Peach Josh]

Didn'T, like, delete anything and apologize.

[Rory Mall]

It's hard to find. Super Ugly was just a radio record.

[Peach Josh]

Can you find Jay Z apologizing?

[Rory Mall]

Yeah, I can. Where with Angie, because his mom made him.

[Peach Josh]

Do you apologize to Nas?

[Rory Mall]

His mom made him apologize to Nas? Sort of.

[Peach Josh]

No, stop lying.

[Rory Mall]

His mom made him go on the radio and apologize.

[Peach Josh]

Stop lying. He did not apologize to Nas for what he said. He never apologized. Don't do that. Don't do that.

[Rory Mall]

He kind of did, though.

[Peach Josh]

He did not. No, he did not. He did.

[Rory Mall]

In a very Brooklyn.

[Peach Josh]

No, he did not. He did not apologize at all if he was offended.

[Rory Mall]

My bad.

[Peach Josh]

No, he didn't apologize. He didn't apologize. But either way, it doesn't matter. It's. The album is coming now. We have to wait and see the content. See what Cole is talking about. See, you know, again. Again, features, if there are any. We know that Cole is more than capable of putting out an entire album. Dope album by himself. No features.

[Rory Mall]

Double platinum. No features.

[Peach Josh]

Yeah. So, you know, we'll have to wait and see.

[Rory Mall]

Yeah. Again, I'm leaning on the. The no features side at this point. I think Cole addresses what we're talking about once and then moves the on. Because I feel like he already kind of addressed it on Port Antonio.

[Peach Josh]

Is he allowed to talk greasy on the song?

[Rory Mall]

Yeah, he is. Sure. He said on Port Antonio, it doesn't mean the gun ain't deadly just because it didn't go off. And then he said, the gut. Maybe the gun isn't what I'm trying to be. I think he explained himself in a very articulate way of the entire situation. You can disagree with the situation, but at least he explained it. Do we want a greasy cold album? Like maybe I want the cold Father of Two album.

[Peach Josh]

No. You know where I stand. I'm aware he's no longer allowed to talk greasy. You can't say that. You're better than everybody. No rapper want it with you, It'll be a problem. Bushido's Blade, all this shit. You can't. It's none of that.

[Rory Mall]

Okay.

[Peach Josh]

It better be a lot of love yours on here. It better be 14 tracks of love yours.

[Rory Mall]

I would love that.

[Peach Josh]

Me too, but it better be that.

[Rory Mall]

There's nothing wrong with that.

[Peach Josh]

There's nothing wrong with it. I'm just saying you can't be talking the way you Were talking before the beef. You can't, bro. I'm sorry. That's not how this goes. It's not designed to go this way. This is how it was before Cole was rapping. It's gonna be this way after Cole finished rapping. You can't apologize when a rapper calls you out. Full battle friendly fade. You can't then look like you wanna fade and then be like, nah, I don't wanna fade. And then apologize and then get back to talking like, you wanna fade on the next album. It doesn't. That's just crazy, bro. Like, let's just be honest. I like Cole, too. I think Cole's a phenomenal rapper. He's a phenomenal mc. But we can't act like that's not gonna look crazy if he's still talking like, we didn't see what we saw on that Dreamfest stage.

[Rory Mall]

What year was that? Two years ago? 1998.

[Peach Josh]

Two years ago.

[Rory Mall]

I don't even remember two years ago. I don't care, and I don't remember.

[Peach Josh]

You don't. You don't care because this is one of your favorite artists. If this was anybody else, you'd be like, he looks nuts.

[Rory Mall]

No. I came on this podcast and still stand by what I said, where he looked nuts in that. But I. I don't. I don't care that much. I care about music way more than I care about that.

[Peach Josh]

Yeah, he's still capable of making great music. He just can't be talking a certain way no more. Not saying he's not capable, because he has plenty of records where he's not talking like that that are great. I'm just saying it has to be a lot of those. It has to. That has to be the temperament. The temperament can't be, you know, I'm better than all of y'. All. It can't be that. I'm sorry. I don't believe you now. I really don't believe you.

[Rory Mall]

Okay.

[Peach Josh]

Cause we saw it. Well, we had a chance to see it, and we were all excited, like, okay, this is gonna be fun to see the best go at it. You can't give us this great album called the Fall off that we've all been anticipating for years. And then seeing what we saw and how you handled yourself in that moment and then get back to talk. It's. What are we doing here? It's all over the place now.

[Rory Mall]

I mean, with the title now it's kind of sealed. I feel like he can talk that way. If you think that makes him fall off that was the concept.

[Peach Josh]

I don't think that makes him talking.

[Rory Mall]

Yo, I backed out of a battle. I'm still going to talk my. And people could look at that like it's crazy. Hey, I'm falling off.

[Peach Josh]

Y' all are crazy, man. Y' all cold fans. Y' all are crazy. Anybody that was in college when Cole dropped. Y' all just have a different. Like, he can't do because y' all was doing y' all laundry listening to him. You was walking to class listening to him like, it's.

[Rory Mall]

No, no, that's a very, very fair point. And me.

[Baby D]

And.

[Rory Mall]

Me and Diani hold that. That. That coal flag very high for people that were in college when Cole came out. But that's why I have the insane. The same Infinity Four. I mean, Drake came out when I was in high school comeback season. But, you know, his career really, like, flourished when I got to college. His first album was when I was in so Far Gone. I was a freshman in college. I was listening to the Kendra Lamar episode. And then right when he's rapping over fucking roots interludes on overly dedicated. I was a junior in college. These three artists were all a huge part of my college experience. So, yes, they get a bunch of passes for me.

[Peach Josh]

I'm just saying it's gonna look very crazy if we get a track list and Sir Kendrick Lamar is on that track list. That's gonna look very crazy to me. I'm not speaking for you, Peach Josh. Nobody else. I'm speaking for me. To me, I'm gonna look like. That's a little nuts. I'm still gonna listen. They're two of the best MCs that we have still gonna listen to the song. If it's great, I'll say it's great. That doesn't mean that I'm not gonna be like, yo, but that's kind of bogus to have a song with this dude after everything that happened. That's crazy.

[Rory Mall]

Kendrick wouldn't look like the crazy one, Cole. Would I. I see your side on that. Kendrick. That would just add more allure to the. If Kendrick pulls that off. Yeah, you're. That's you already. You were already the boogeyman. Now you're.

[Peach Josh]

That's all I'm saying. That's all I've been trying to say. Rory. That's gonna.

[Rory Mall]

But wait, you're saying that makes Cole look like Marco Rubio of like. Like, yo, you was dissing this man non stop. Now you his right hand.

[Peach Josh]

Like, yo, like, what? Like, what's going on, bro, like, what you doing? Like, what's up, man? And we know because we know rap. A lot of this shit is just sport. It's wrestling, it's wwf, it's entertainment. We get that part of it. But it's still a thing where we could be like, I get it, but that look kind of crazy. It looks kind of crazy.

[Rory Mall]

Here's my thing when it comes to music in general. Like, if we're talking about the, the Ross and 50 beef, where if you. You people probably don't remember, 50 went crazy with the officer, took his baby moms out, the pimping curly, like he went nuts. All of us forgot about that. Because Ross made the best music of his career at that time. If that J. Cole and Kendrick song is incredible, hypothetically, yeah, no one's going to care. That's the difference with music and everything else in the world. You could have been the biggest loser in a battle on earth. If your music is good, nobody gives a fuck.

[Peach Josh]

I agree.

[Rory Mall]

So it'll look crazy if it's like kind of a subpar record, But I don't know if.

[Peach Josh]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Even if it's a phenomenal record, it's going to look crazy to me. Remember, Roy?

[Rory Mall]

I'.

[Peach Josh]

That's fine to me. I'm gonna look at that crazy like, yo, great record. They rapping they ass off. They was getting off on that. Whatever. I'm gonna say all the things and at the end of that, you know what I'm gonna say. But that's fucking crazy that he sat and did a song with Kendrick after all of that shit.

[Rory Mall]

I'm. I'm here for a reflective JCO album.

[Peach Josh]

I'm not mad at that.

[Rory Mall]

That that's what you're a. A parent of. Of two, from what we know. Because, you know, Cole only gives information.

[Peach Josh]

Do you want to hear him go into.

[Rory Mall]

I want him to reflect on everything that has happened. This is the type of Cole I would like at this time.

[Peach Josh]

You're including the battle, everything. So you still want to hear him address that? Yeah, no, see, I would. No. Rory, if it's over, it's over, bro. If it's over, it's over. I don't want to hear you.

[Rory Mall]

I think he's going to address it once on the album. When I say reflected in a 15 year career. I don't think that's as, as important in Cole's career to him as you may think it is. I, I think the, the how that.

[Peach Josh]

Was one of the biggest moments in rap history.

[Rory Mall]

I said to him, I don't think in his career how he views it. And this is unfair to put on someone because I don't know Cole like that. Even if I did, that's unfair to put on anyone. But I don't think it's as big a deal in his mental at this point as you may think it is. And I think that's a small thing to be reflective about. In an album called the Fall Off. After you've had the career he's had for the last 15 years. Yes. Do I think it'll be brought up? I don't think it'll be the main focus. Where I'm scared.

[Peach Josh]

No.

[Rory Mall]

Yeah, I know where I'm scared on Iceman. I hope to God that's not Drake's main focus either. I don't want it to be the main focus of any of them. I want them to address it. But. Cool, let's move on. I'm excited to hear Cole with a title like the Fall off, meaning I'm probably getting towards the end of my musical career. By choice. We're not retiring Cole. Cole would retire himself. Yeah. I'd like a reflective album, especially after the last few years, but the last 15 years.

[Peach Josh]

Oh, Cole.

[Rory Mall]

Cole almost ended up being the guy that was signed and never heard of again. That was very close in his career, which is. Which is absolutely fucking insane to his talent level. And obviously the cream always rises. But you could be as talented as J. Cole and put in the wrong system and never be heard from again. It's not your fault. Cole was coming in S. Carter Enterprises, not Roc Nation. It was Wale and him and S. Carter Enterprise. It could have been over. When he's talked about it, Jay's trying to put him with Stargate. I'm like, they're dope, but that's not my sound. They're trying to get him to do a single like, it could have been over for Cole. We've seen that happen so many times, and it didn't. I'd like to hear about that. You navigated your career, your way, business and creatively for 15 fucking years. Better than 99.9% of the rappers of this generation. Yeah, I'm with you. Tell me that on the follow up.

[Peach Josh]

I'm with you. I'm with you on that.

[Rory Mall]

Tell me about that entire thing.

[Peach Josh]

I'm with you on that.

[Rory Mall]

Is the battle involved in that? Of course.

[Peach Josh]

I don't want to hear about that. That's my only. That's. I don't want to hear. Let's act like we did not see that happen. I think it's best that we do that. Let's just act like that didn't happen. Give us the reflective over your career, all the other things, great moments, and give us all of that. I'm with you on that. I'm here for that type of RA rap. But don't. Don't even leave that. What happened alone.

[Rory Mall]

I do have a. A, A prediction. I think Cole has a bop on this album.

[Peach Josh]

We mean a bop.

[Rory Mall]

I think Cole has like a single that's like really, really gonna work like an outside type record. I think he has a bop.

[Peach Josh]

Oh, yeah, that's.

[Rory Mall]

I mean, we. We know he's capable of it. Yeah. But some albums he hasn't focused on having a bop. I think there's one of those on here, and I think it's almost in because it's the fall off. I think it's almost in a sarcastic manner. And it's gonna work like I was around and it ends up just being a bop type record. Like, this was a joke and Nas kind of hard. I think he has one of those. And I think it plays like outside type thing. I don't think it's just gonna be. Lyrics. Lyrics, Lyrics. I think he has some.

[Peach Josh]

Listen, I'm some music on it. I hope this album is incredible. I will be the first to come in here and say that if it's incredible. Yeah, I'm just hoping that it's that. But I just know how, you know, difficult it could be coming out of that whole situation for an artist, for that to kind of pull at your creative energy and, you know, your thought process a little bit. But obviously Cole is an incredible writer, incredible artist, so hopefully he navigated that well and, you know, give us the right energy on this album. But I am looking forward to. To what he did with this album.

[Rory Mall]

Though, and all those snippets that he put out like 2 years ago riding the bike that we thought we were getting the fall off before the battle. I'd like to hear those records. He was getting his off on the FDR on his bike.

[Peach Josh]

We gonna see.

[Rory Mall]

Should we check in with our senior JCOLE analysis?

[Peach Josh]

Oh, boy, here we go.

[Rory Mall]

Can we get a. Can we get baby D in the zoom zoom room? Mo. What's that right there? It doesn't look like the most powerful iPhone that's ever existed.

[Peach Josh]

This old thing.

[Rory Mall]

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[Peach Josh]

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[Rory Mall]

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[Peach Josh]

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[Rory Mall]

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[Peach Josh]

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[Rory Mall]

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[Rory Mall]

Mal we have our senior Cole correspondent from her remote location in Fayetteville, North Carolina. First of all, Baby D, how are you feeling? We miss you dearly. The listeners miss you dearly. How are you feeling? Outside of the cold news, we just want to check on your actual health, mental health Then we can get to what has cured you, which is Jermaine Cole announcing an album. But how are you feeling?

[Baby D]

I literally had nothing to live for. And then boom, something for, like, this is amazing. You know, healing wise.

[Rory Mall]

I'm doing.

[Baby D]

I'm doing better. I'm doing a lot, a lot better. I'm looking forward to going. Coming back to work. You always be like, I don't want to go to work. And then, like, when you can't, it's like, damn, like, I would like to leave my house, you know?

[Rory Mall]

So how's the house, bed rest been picked up? Any new hobbies?

[Baby D]

You know, I didn't know that there were so many seasons of Law and Order svu. Like, there's so many seasons.

[Peach Josh]

That show first aired when you were three years old.

[Rory Mall]

It is airing tomorrow.

[Baby D]

I was like, damn. Like, I. Like, I was like, I can't binge this from the beginning. I'm gonna start at, like, season 20. But I've been getting, like. I've been getting a lot of editing done, prayer done. Like, but I'm. I'm going stir crazy in this house. I really am.

[Peach Josh]

You've been getting prayer done is hilarious. How do you get prayer done?

[Baby D]

I've been getting prayer done.

[Peach Josh]

You just been praying. Like, how do you get pray? You start a prayer and you go back to it later. Like, what do you mean?

[Rory Mall]

You have to table that prayer.

[Peach Josh]

Yeah, like, what do you mean?

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You begin.

[Baby D]

You know, when you be like. Because, like, a lot of my prayers, you just in the moment prayers. I'm like, damn, I need to do, like, some. Like, some prayer. Like, I've been needing some. I've been needing to pray for. For a couple years, but, like, I ain't get to.

[Peach Josh]

Oh, you finally got to. Oh, okay.

[Rory Mall]

Yeah, you know, you don't want to.

[Baby D]

Ask God for too much. But now I'm like, getting to the point where it's like, all right, I can't keep praying these same prayers. Like, I gotta expand a little bit.

[Peach Josh]

Did you pray for this. This album to drop?

[Baby D]

No, because, you know, so you should.

[Peach Josh]

Have prayed for it. You would. Got it.

[Rory Mall]

You feeling great for times like this.

[Baby D]

I should have. But, you know, I feel like God, when I was getting to the point where I was, you know, looking for a reason to get out of bed, God said, here, go one. So here we are.

[Rory Mall]

I noticed that you had posted.

[Baby D]

I don't know, y' all ordered your vinyls.

[Rory Mall]

I noticed you purchased your. Your vinyl and posted the confirmation within. I don't know Maybe three minutes of the announcement.

[Baby D]

Yes, I did.

[Rory Mall]

How much was it?

[Baby D]

With shipping and handling, somewhere around $70.

[Rory Mall]

Cold getting them.

[Baby D]

So that's like two meals I can't eat this month. But it's fine. I don't care.

[Peach Josh]

Two, six. You'll eat again on February 6th. You'll eat.

[Baby D]

Yeah, yeah, I eat again February 6th, drink again. That's gonna be my first drink. That's also when I get off official. Official bed rest.

[Peach Josh]

So February 6th is your official bed rest day release.

[Baby D]

When I. When I. Cause I can't. I can't do any heavy lifting. I can't do any working out, and I can't stick anything in my vagina until February 6th. So I'll be back to work before then. But, like, the important stuff I can't do.

[Rory Mall]

P just asked if you needed, like, any furniture move. Plus that last thing.

[Peach Josh]

Plus that last thing is hilarious. Plus that last thing. That last thing on the list. Like he said. He said he's a veil. He checked his avails. He checked his avails. He's free.

[Baby D]

Stop. I can't laugh. Stop.

[Rory Mall]

For real. He checked his avails calendar. I was slammed. I'm wide open.

[Baby D]

I'm wide open.

[Peach Josh]

Oh, my God.

[Rory Mall]

That's what he was suggesting.

[Peach Josh]

Yeah.

[Rory Mall]

All right. Where's your head at with what's going to be on this. This album? How'd you feel about the snippet? And how do you feel as one of the most relatable rappers? She said, I like Porsche and charged us $70 for the vibe. I remember when it was a dollar in the dream. Now it's $70 in Shipp. You know, I'm just trying to start up to with you.

[Baby D]

The. The vinyl was 40 something after shipping, immediate shipping and all of that.

[Rory Mall]

I thought Joe Biden got rid of that. All them hidden charges. No back. Okay.

[Baby D]

Oh, that's for Ticketmaster. What's up? What y' all thought of the snippet? Y' all know I thought it was wonderful. I thought it was beautiful.

[Rory Mall]

I thought. I thought it was the greatest snippet. I think it's a classic already. I think it's five mics.

[Baby D]

Like, what you. Y' all calling me? Y' all know what I got to say. What y' all got to say?

[Rory Mall]

I'm. I'm like, actually really excited. It's hard to get me, like, really excited for a rap album these days. Yes. I'm. I'm very, very much excited for this entire thing. I'm just being. Me too, Baby D. I just have this really. I just have this cloud of Internet rap beef over me that's trying to like rain on my parade of actually being excited for somebody that's really good at rapping and making music.

[Peach Josh]

I can't wait to do the J mean when you doing this. And I'm looking up. This is hard because, you know, I don't want to, I don't want to like this, that I don't want to like it. I'm just joking. But no, I think it's gonna be a good album.

[Rory Mall]

I, I my prediction, Demer. I do think Cole has a little bop on this one. I feel like he's kind of the last two albums, I felt like he's, he hasn't focused on that, which I'm fine with because I'm usually not somebody that wants the bops from these types of rappers. I think there's something on there that's going to play outside. Like I think you and I will be on Steinway this summer listening to something off the falloff. I don't think he's just giving us this whole rapity rap reflection. I think it's going to be there and I want that. I do think he has a joint on here that's going to play outside.

[Baby D]

Like a J. Cole bop in a very long time. So I would appreciate that.

[Rory Mall]

I mean, don't, don't save her. Was that the last, last bop? I'm saying bop solo because he's, he's been on Box on that album. But that much that, that plays in the hookah lounge like right now?

[Baby D]

Yeah, yeah, probably.

[Rory Mall]

I think we're getting a new one. I think he was testing the waters with his sexy drill. I heard it's grippy. I think he was just working on some. I think that was, that was his seven minute drill for Outside Records. I think we're getting one of those from Cold.

[Peach Josh]

You think he'll have like a first person shooter vibe, but call it first person apology.

[Baby D]

That was even a good joke.

[Peach Josh]

Like, well, hopefully the album is better than that joke, Baby D. It will be. Hopefully.

[Rory Mall]

Do you have any feature feature predictions?

[Baby D]

I don't have any feature predictions. Maybe a jid. I don't have any feature predictions. I'm praying for 21 savage feature. As I say all the time, not gonna happen.

[Rory Mall]

Definitely not gonna happen.

[Baby D]

Okay.

[Rory Mall]

He chose.

[Baby D]

I can still pray for it.

[Peach Josh]

The like, well, no, you got more prayers to get done. So. Yeah, that's, that's another one.

[Rory Mall]

You have to.

[Baby D]

You know what I'm saying?

[Rory Mall]

I just feel I mean, as much as, like, I love all Return of the Dreamers, like, I kind of just want the non Dreamville Cold project. Kind of just want Cold. And he. We already have two amazing 21 Savage records with Cole. I don't know if I want more of the same. Like, I don't want to rinse and repeat of trying to redo classics.

[Baby D]

Like, I want another one. But, I mean, I hear you, and.

[Rory Mall]

I don't know if I want Cole trying to be what he's been before, which has been great. Let me work with the younger artists. I don't know if I want that either. I think I kind of just want a J. Cole.

[Baby D]

Oh, okay. You want platinum, no features.

[Rory Mall]

Yeah. I thought I. We were debating about the Kendrick thing, because I've said on this pod a bunch of times that I thought there was Kendrick features. As the minutes pass, I'm leaning on a Just J. Cole no features album.

[Baby D]

I don't think that's gonna happen. I think there's gonna be a feature or three.

[Peach Josh]

What you think about Freddie Gibbs feature.

[Rory Mall]

That's not gonna happen. You'll get a 21 Savage feature.

[Peach Josh]

I'm just saying what y' all think.

[Rory Mall]

Gibbs has been allegedly dissing him for the last three years. I think he. I think he has a sub at Freddy. That is debatable. Like, oh, he not. He not talking about Freddy. But he was talking about Freddy.

[Peach Josh]

Oh, my God, man.

[Rory Mall]

What's up, man?

[Baby D]

I'm just here to say that it ain't no room.

[Peach Josh]

It ain't no room for subs. He's Jussie Smollett when it comes to subs. There's no rooms for it.

[Rory Mall]

Well, that was the only true thing in his story. There was a people's love.

[Peach Josh]

No, I don't want no subs, no subs. Just give us great music, great bars, no subs. Hold this up. Hold all subs. Great, great songs, great rapping, great production. We happy once you start subbing, and it's like, no, no, no, no. Don't do that.

[Rory Mall]

Okay?

[Peach Josh]

Stay away from that. Stay away from that. Just give us the. Give us great bars.

[Baby D]

Yeah, he doesn't have to. There's no. There's no need for any of that. Everybody's been waiting for this. Everybody just wants to hear Colby Cole. And when you're exceptional at rapping without the gimmicks and the fake mystery and whatever the hell other people got going on, when you're just amazing at rapping and putting words together, we just need the music that's all.

[Rory Mall]

I'm gonna out our good friend Reason. I have a group chat with Reason and some other people, and he. He put the Instagram trailer in there and put ah in all caps. A, H, H, h, H, H. And I said, this is gay.

[Peach Josh]

Did he scream? Is that. Is that man screaming? Screaming via text. Don't scream in my text because J. Cole announced the album, bro. And you a rapper yourself. You can't scream because J. Cole announced the album like he's a fan of Cole. You can be a fan. I'm not saying you can't be. You can't.

[Rory Mall]

He has a good relationship with Cole as his man.

[Peach Josh]

Imagine if. See, Nah, don't. No, don't do that. Because.

[Rory Mall]

Because I would also call you gay if the Iceman came out and you went, ah.

[Peach Josh]

Exactly. Exactly. That's. That's all I'm asking. Just keep the same energy for everybody. That's crazy. To scream when another man announces an album drop. That's crazy.

[Baby D]

But if it's cold, you.

[Peach Josh]

I don't give a fuck who it is. You cannot scream as a grown man.

[Rory Mall]

Started because we've been. He claims we've been moving the goalposts.

[Peach Josh]

For goal, so I do, and it's okay. It's okay. We understand that. It's all right. Listen, I'm looking forward to this album just like everybody else. Like, I want to hear it. I want to hear what he did.

[Baby D]

I couldn't pick a better week to be gone from work. Every time I log on to the Internet, it's a clip of y' all somewhere. I'm like, I'm so happy that my body decided to fail me this month. You niggas been getting clipped up for the past week.

[Peach Josh]

Really? For what?

[Rory Mall]

Yeah, fill us in.

[Baby D]

Full predictions. Andre 3000 is overrated. All types of shit's been going on when I've been gone.

[Peach Josh]

Oh, okay. Two for two.

[Rory Mall]

Yeah. Yeah. Sounds like we're potting.

[Peach Josh]

Two for two.

[Rory Mall]

What have you learned about your friend group inner circle since you've been on bed rest?

[Baby D]

Oh, my God. Just say you want praise. Being a good friend, yo, you want.

[Rory Mall]

You want me to praise you for.

[Baby D]

Being a good friend?

[Rory Mall]

Yo, I swear to God, that did not even enter my mind. It was more so the subs I've seen you've been getting throwing out. I'm always about subs. Yeah, I actually think I could have been a better friend. I think I've been.

[Baby D]

You were a very good friend. You were very attentive. You were attentive.

[Rory Mall]

To a fault, but I don't care about that. Yeah, Nah, tell me. Tell me about the people you were subbing.

[Baby D]

Ah, it's cool. It's. Everything is copacetic. It's cool. I seen who was there and who wasn't. I think. I think, too.

[Rory Mall]

Okay, that's true.

[Peach Josh]

You got to go through the fire to know it's hot, right?

[Rory Mall]

Yeah.

[Baby D]

Nah, nah, it's cool. Lonely over here, but it's been lonely. Yo, but it's all right. I'm cool.

[Peach Josh]

It's not. Yo, yo, baby, I don't know who you think you talking to or who. What you think you getting off right now if you think that I think that it's been lonely over there. Like, cut this.

[Rory Mall]

If I can't even pull up, I.

[Peach Josh]

Will unplug this zoom, and you will be out of the Ethernet in two seconds. Like, get the out of line.

[Baby D]

Shout out to my. Shout out to my friends that have that. That reached out, that were there and not just, you know, from, like, me being rushed into emergency surgery as far as just. I was already going through a. With my mom, and people knew when they reach out. So, like, you know what I'm saying? So, like, from that to that, it's like, oh, I. I see. I see what 2026 about to be. But to everybody, I did have a huge village of people who did hold down. But I. I seen.

[Peach Josh]

Well, I. I called you. I FaceTimed you and text. You didn't get a response.

[Rory Mall]

I didn't get oxy.

[Baby D]

I was off oxy when you called me. I was in a lot of pain. I was off oxy.

[Peach Josh]

But I'm saying. But you up now, though.

[Baby D]

And I went to surgery, got out the hospital, came home, kicked my feet up, got unconstipated. You called me three days later.

[Peach Josh]

Well, yeah, I was giving you time to, you know, get your feet up under you and just. And then I went home. I said, Let me FaceTime, baby. Dan, check on FaceTime. No response. Text you. No response. I'm like, all right, now you sitting there hugging the J. Cole vinyl. All right, cool. Say no more. You took a picture. I see. What, 2020. I'm glad you said it. I see what 2026 is.

[Rory Mall]

These are terrible situations.

[Peach Josh]

This is revelations right here. Wait till I have my surgery.

[Rory Mall]

So I know you're getting. I know you're getting much better, but you could tell the doctors you're not right and still keep all those prescriptions, correct?

[Baby D]

Nah, it don't. It don't even work. Like that.

[Rory Mall]

Like, I'm running low because we're on zoom. Yeah. Yeah. We'll talk after.

[Peach Josh]

Yeah.

[Baby D]

I don't know how people take them shits. And, like, I don't like those drugs.

[Rory Mall]

But we could sell them.

[Baby D]

I got low dose. They gave me like a. Like, you know, just enough to put me to sleep.

[Peach Josh]

That's all the dope has need.

[Rory Mall]

Yeah.

[Baby D]

Nah, we gotta get some of that fit for the office. That.

[Peach Josh]

No, we don't. No, we do not. No, we. Hey, I don't know who's listening. No, we do not. There's no fence nowhere in this office. No, it is not.

[Baby D]

That went crazy. That.

[Rory Mall]

No, let them raid the office so we can sue Mandami and get some money. No, I do want to try fent one day, but with that.

[Peach Josh]

Who says that?

[Rory Mall]

Like, just one day, I want to try it.

[Peach Josh]

Okay.

[Rory Mall]

All right. Not to, like, get on it, but I got to see that.

[Baby D]

That goes straight into your veins. Whatever they putting in the coke, you don't want that. You want this shit. That goes straight into your veins. That shit was great.

[Rory Mall]

My godfather, who I told you had stage four cancer, never did any drugs, got addicted to fentanyl in one week, immediately, it was that good. And then I was on FaceTime with Damaris yesterday, two days ago, and she was telling me how good the fent was. It's a drug I got to try.

[Peach Josh]

Yeah, spoken like a true white boy.

[Baby D]

Y' all miss me? Like, damn, I know the office.

[Peach Josh]

Nah, not really. It's been mad. We've been having mad activities in here. This shit been lit in here. Like, we really not. Like, it's cool. You got. You got another surgery coming up in February. Like, you want to, like, you. I mean, go back out for another week or two. Like, it's all good. Take your time.

[Baby D]

You want a good time?

[Peach Josh]

Take your time. Take your time, Baby D. Take your time, baby D. Did we look at what.

[Rory Mall]

What day of the week? February 6th. Is he doing a. He's doing a Friday. Okay, so what. What are we doing for the sixth? We throwing a party that's almost just.

[Peach Josh]

As gay as reason. Screaming fair. Almost not as gay, but.

[Rory Mall]

Yo, what's up? We doing a listening party here. All 20, 25. I felt like maybe we could bring.

[Baby D]

The fan that really. With Cole. I don't want to listen to nobody that's in there looking for mistakes. No, I want to listen with real.

[Peach Josh]

You talking to me?

[Rory Mall]

Yeah, you.

[Peach Josh]

Oh, yeah. I don't want to listen to cold fans either. Y' all Gonna hit subpar bars.

[Rory Mall]

Like, oh, my God, now we gonna hear subpar bars.

[Peach Josh]

When clouds came out, which I did.

[Baby D]

When clouds came out the way reroute subpar bars.

[Peach Josh]

Hey, yo. When clouds came out, y' all was in there going crazy.

[Rory Mall]

When clouds came out and then was.

[Baby D]

Subpar them with subpar bars.

[Rory Mall]

Yeah, that was just working out.

[Peach Josh]

That was just working.

[Rory Mall]

We the type of CO fans that heard. We went, whoa, that bar's crazy.

[Peach Josh]

Rory, you know how many times Rory played that snippet or the intro? You know how many times he played that? I thought it was the whole song. I didn't know. I didn't know you could loop like a tweet like, I didn't even know.

[Rory Mall]

That poor thing wanted the war thing. He came with more pain.

[Peach Josh]

How he do that? Like that and put the words together. Oh, poor pain in the war game. See hair loss go to road gain. I know how he did that.

[Rory Mall]

When the beat dropped.

[Peach Josh]

Yeah, yeah.

[Baby D]

The hate don't work.

[Rory Mall]

Did you hear the song? Because actually, it was kind of hard.

[Baby D]

Don't worry. Yo, ain't Iceman coming like you got something?

[Peach Josh]

Chill, chill. This ain't got nothing to do with that. This is the fall off. We on fall off time. February 6th. 26, 26. 26, 26. That's what we on, baby. You about to get it tatted. 26, 26. Yeah, that's what we on.

[Rory Mall]

And he's two six. Went over your head dissing you, man.

[Baby D]

Yeah, it did.

[Peach Josh]

That's nasty.

[Rory Mall]

So bad.

[Peach Josh]

That is so nasty that you said that.

[Rory Mall]

Oh, he's 2 6.

[Peach Josh]

Oh, my God. Yo, y' all are crazy, man. I love J. Cole.

[Rory Mall]

Stole that day from Drake. Drake.

[Peach Josh]

Listen, listen, I'm with.

[Rory Mall]

I agree. This was taken by co. Was part 6 was taken. Everything's been taken. There's no sixes left for Drake.

[Peach Josh]

It's a beautiful day. Well, Baby D, was good to see your face, good to hear your voice. Hopefully you're healing up. You know what I'm saying? Get your hibiscus tea and all of that in you. You know what I'm saying? Get yourself together, and we're looking forward to having you back in the studio sooner then later. Hopefully before. Hopefully before for 2 6. 2 6.

[Baby D]

I gotta come decorate the office like that.

[Peach Josh]

Decorate.

[Baby D]

That's the real Valentine's Day. That's the real Valentine's Day.

[Peach Josh]

2 6. That's the new Valentine's Day.

[Baby D]

Valentine's Day.

[Peach Josh]

February 6th is the new Valentine's Day. All right, all right. I respect that. All right. That's the new. You ain't even know that was a new Valentine's Day.

[Rory Mall]

What is that? Aries? No. Aquarius. Aquarius. Which day is 2 6?

[Peach Josh]

I don't know.

[Rory Mall]

Where's that Astrology with the stars?

[Baby D]

Aquarius.

[Rory Mall]

Aquarius. You didn't even think about that.

[Peach Josh]

I didn't.

[Rory Mall]

Scorpion like, yo.

[Peach Josh]

It's everywhere.

[Rory Mall]

Equimani. Three stacks. It's all tied together.

[Baby D]

I just. If you have sex during Aquarius season, you give birth to Scorpios. That's all I'm saying.

[Peach Josh]

Yo, Baby D, it's been good talking to you.

[Rory Mall]

I don't have anything enter your vagina, too.

[Peach Josh]

It's been great seeing you. Great talking to you, Baby D, we love you. We see you soon. Get better. Be safe, be blessed, and heal up soon. Peace, man.

[Rory Mall]

While we've been talking about Cole announcing the Fall off, the snippet. He put out a video while we were recording. We came right back in, and this is first reaction, which I. I always think is kind of unfair, but that's the times we're in. We give first reactions. I love the Nas rewind that he's on. And I kind of. I'm gonna make this about me, like I usually do. I want my flowers, man. Thirty minutes ago, I said, I just want Cole to reflect from the last 15 years of a career that he's had. And the whole video treatment and song is that. That is beautiful. That was great. And I like the Nas rewind angle that he took. We're literally reversing from the Fall off to the first project. I don't think that song is going to be on the album, by the way. I think this is just really a cool way to do the rollout. I don't think this is on the Fall Off. I just think that's a really cool verse in the. The marketing of the Fall Off. Let me tell you, from the fall off back to. To where I started.

[Peach Josh]

Now, the track at the end of.

[Rory Mall]

That, I don't think that's on the Fall off either.

[Peach Josh]

You see?

[Rory Mall]

All right, well, I think he has a lot of so much music. Like we were saying before, I just don't. There's 20 versions of this album. I think he's going to put a lot of that music in the rollout the same way he did when he was riding on the fdr.

[Peach Josh]

I just like you. The Unibrow Unabomber. No, you're not.

[Rory Mall]

What?

[Peach Josh]

You're the unibrow apologizer.

[Rory Mall]

Okay, Say that. Did you listen to Anything? Yeah, no.

[Peach Josh]

He got his balls off. Yeah. Yeah, I like the song. It's cool. Like the treatment. Like the video.

[Rory Mall]

Maybe I. I connected a bit more in the. The middle of that of having a. A child and thinking about your career and maybe feel like you're ignoring every.

[Peach Josh]

Like, that's fire.

[Rory Mall]

That's all you took from this was, he can't talk greasy. That was such a beautiful display of rapping.

[Peach Josh]

Right? I said that. But I said the end of that. That song that he went into. I don't like that. You the Unibrow Unabom. You sound like you about to get into a whole lot of that. We only got a snippet of whatever song that is, but all we heard was the unibrow Unabomber equipped with armor.

[Rory Mall]

Again, I don't.

[Peach Josh]

Where we going with that?

[Rory Mall]

What'd you think the next 120 versions of this album when we said before? Because we came right back in.

[Peach Josh]

Well, it says disc two, track two. So is this a double disc?

[Rory Mall]

Is it.

[Peach Josh]

Is it.

[Rory Mall]

Is it 2 sick 2 disc?

[Peach Josh]

You said that the first time. We thought it was nasty. You said it again still. We were recording at the time.

[Rory Mall]

What were you recording when I said that?

[Peach Josh]

Yeah, I don't.

[Rory Mall]

I don't.

[Peach Josh]

I don't know. I mean, listen, he's. He's rapping. I like. I like the video. The video's cool. Like. Like you said, from a verse going to the beginning of his. Of his career, of his. Of his birth, his life.

[Rory Mall]

And anyone that's clipping this up right now, we are literally reacting to this in real time. I don't want to hear anything after you guys dissect what clock time meant six hours from now and be like, yo, Roy Maul are like, dog, we are reacting to this in real, real time right now. What's happening? Okay, so you're saying it says two disc two, track two. Okay, so never mind. I take it back. This will probably be on the album. And it is a double disc. Big risk. I like the confidence, Cole. Listen, this is a big.

[Peach Josh]

I wanna. I wanna like it.

[Baby D]

It.

[Peach Josh]

But I cannot name.

[Rory Mall]

Double disc since.

[Peach Josh]

I cannot listen to J. Cole say he's the Unibrow Unabomber. Like, I can't hear that Confidence. I can't hear that. I don't believe you.

[Rory Mall]

Disc two. I don't believe you name a double disc since Life After Death. That has been a classic.

[Peach Josh]

Mighty kids about that.

[Rory Mall]

I don't count that. Well, listen, that is a classic.

[Peach Josh]

Listen. I like the video. I like the Song.

[Rory Mall]

Because I like the bars at Streets Disciple. I like Blueprint 2. I like. Those are not classics. When they try to do the double disc thing. Scorpion. I like. I don't deem it a classic, but I like it. Name the last classic. I'm with Peach Love below speaker box. I just don't really put it in the category that we're talking about.

[Peach Josh]

That's not really a double disc.

[Rory Mall]

It's not really a double disc. And one is two.

[Peach Josh]

Two artists, two albums.

[Rory Mall]

It's. Yeah, it's not a double disc to me.

[Peach Josh]

Yeah, it was good, though.

[Rory Mall]

Yo. Nah, you. You might need to chill for a second. Cole got a different level of confidence if he's doing a double disc for Fall Off.

[Peach Josh]

He's been working on this. Rory, stop.

[Rory Mall]

But you just said he had to redo everything.

[Peach Josh]

Rory, stop. Stop.

[Rory Mall]

He's been working on it for so long.

[Peach Josh]

He hasn't putting too much on it. He's been working on this for how long? We're not surprised that he has 27 songs that he could put together.

[Rory Mall]

I think Cole has 150 songs exactly.

[Peach Josh]

So it's not. I. I like it, though. Give us as much rap.

[Rory Mall]

For Blueprint. But he made it down.

[Peach Josh]

I want to hear it. I'm not mad at it, but okay. It's a double disc. We wasn't. I don't think none of us was anticipating that, but okay. Dope. I'm just saying that song that it was going to like, that beat. The Beat is Hard and all of that.

[Rory Mall]

He went nuts on that.

[Peach Josh]

I just know. What song you talking about.

[Rory Mall]

This one.

[Peach Josh]

The video. You know, I like this. Good. Good bars in there. I like that.

[Rory Mall]

I like that. I know Felton does creative direction for Dreamboat. Felton. You guys smoke. This visual. This visual is incredible.

[Peach Josh]

Dope. Looks good, Sounds good.

[Rory Mall]

He rapping, man, That's. That's somebody that's in shape.

[Peach Josh]

Yeah, he's been in shape, which is why we was disappointed in what he did. We wanted that. The Unibrow, Unabomber.

[Rory Mall]

But we're coming back in. As I was about to leave the studio to get on the train to go home, I didn't know he was in this type of shape and that we were getting a double disc. Like, if we go back.

[Peach Josh]

What shape you thought he was in? What shape you thought? Or is it because he didn't want to battle? You didn't think he was in shape? Why do you think he was in shape?

[Rory Mall]

The confidence of putting this out, saying it's a double disc. Then saying I'm the unibrow Unabomber. Yeah. This is somebody with confidence that doesn't care about what. What you have been saying for the first half of this episode.

[Peach Josh]

He ain't got to care about what I've been saying. I'm speaking facts, though. I bet you your favorite MC agree with me.

[Rory Mall]

What that got to do with you? Okay, yeah. My favorite MCs opinion doesn't dictate mine.

[Peach Josh]

It doesn't dictate mine either. I'm just saying your favorite MC agrees with me. You can't talk like that after we saw what you did, bro.

[Rory Mall]

You know how favorite MC signed this guy?

[Peach Josh]

You know, you know how much harder. You know how much harder that bar would hit if he stayed in that battle and did what we thought he would would do. You know how much the unic Unibrow Unabomber how much that would be like, whoa, he in his back now. It's just like. I don't believe it. Sounds good, but I don't. It's no, it's nothing. It's like empty calories. Like, it's like. It looks good. It's like.

[Rory Mall]

Did you not listen to the first four minutes?

[Peach Josh]

Why you keep talking about.

[Rory Mall]

Because that's what matters. That's what he was saying in the first song.

[Peach Josh]

He went into another song.

[Rory Mall]

I know, but why are we talking.

[Peach Josh]

About the other song?

[Rory Mall]

Another snippet. I'm talking about the beautiful. We spoke master class of rapping that you just did.

[Peach Josh]

I just said. I like that. I just said the line.

[Rory Mall]

You brow you're over liking how amazing that record was of reflecting the last 15 years of your career. Three bars. That may not even make the album.

[Peach Josh]

Who skipped over it?

[Rory Mall]

We literally went right to the end credits over.

[Peach Josh]

No, we did not. We just spoke about the video. You just shouted out Felton. We just did that. What are you talking about? Okay, we just said it was dope. I said it. I like the video. I like the song. Like the bars.

[Rory Mall]

What do you like about it?

[Peach Josh]

I like the whole going from the end of it. I liked all of that.

[Rory Mall]

Okay, we just said that.

[Peach Josh]

What are you talking about?

[Rory Mall]

So let's move on. Have a full conversation about two bars. About him having.

[Peach Josh]

I just said that last song he went into. That beat is hard. And how he went into it. It sound like he about to get into that bag of none of y' all can fuck with me. And I'm just saying I don't believe you. I don't want to hear that. That the first Song the introspective go from, you know, my death to when I was born and all that fire. The visual fire. Okay, we like that. But you can't end that with uni Unibrow, Unabomber equipped with armor. What armor you was equipped with? Who did you bomb on?

[Rory Mall]

Okay, again, guys, this is all in real time. So that's what I'm saying. You're not a Cole fan. Fifteen years ago, Cole put out a song on the Any Given Sunday mixtape, which is a classic called Unabomber.

[Peach Josh]

So I'm not a cold fan.

[Rory Mall]

Oh, P. Just saying. I can't play it. I'm not sure that he is suggesting in that bar after explaining his entire career. And then it goes to the end credits in reverse. Unibonner being on Any Given Sunday, which is an early mixtape for Cole, that he is suggesting that he is going to be the Unabomber on all the rappers. I think it's tied into the Unabomber song that's on Any Given Sunday mix.

[Peach Josh]

Yes. That's what we're doing, bro. I'm just saying. I was like, I don't like the beat is hard. Unibrow, Unabomber equipment, armor. Where is it going after that? That's what I didn't. Did I not say that piece? Did I not say, where are we going after? Where is it?

[Rory Mall]

You don't want to hear that type of talk from. I'm saying I don't now.

[Peach Josh]

I don't want to hear song that.

[Rory Mall]

Is 15 years old.

[Peach Josh]

Okay, cool.

[Rory Mall]

I don't think he's about to say he's about to bomb on Rapp.

[Peach Josh]

You might be right, but you also might be wrong. Speak to that. Speak to how you might be wrong.

[Rory Mall]

Two six, double disc. How could I be wrong?

[Peach Josh]

We gonna see good video, though. Definitely like the video.

[Rory Mall]

Beautiful video.

[Peach Josh]

Visual's dope.

[Rory Mall]

I'm excited, man. I feel like a kid again. I miss hip hop. Hip hop used to be fun.

[Peach Josh]

This still is.

[Rory Mall]

I'm gonna listen on this. I'm Gonna listen this 30 times tonight. I can't wait. I actually might neglect my child tonight and be like, nah. You know, actually the first time I actually felt like I was neglecting my child was when Mike Delete later dropped. I was sitting in a Mars playroom. Remember Kia getting like, mad at me, like, what's wrong with you? Right? I said, stop. Don't speak to me. Get that. Get this fucking kid away from me.

[Peach Josh]

You need complete silence.

[Rory Mall]

Yeah. When Mike Delete later dropped 7 minute drill. Yeah, that was the height of. Of life now. Now I need to reflect on what I did wrong.

[Peach Josh]

All right. I'm looking forward to it.

[Rory Mall]

They don't even understand the Nas. Why would you hang up? Yo? Yeah, they don't even understand the Nas rewind angle that Cole took. I. Like, I can't be in the studio with these novices, man.

[Baby D]

This.

[Rory Mall]

This is. This is crazy to me.

[Baby D]

They didn't get that he was storytelling.

[Rory Mall]

He. They had no. They. They have never listened to Stillmatic. They don't know what Nas does. They don't know what Cole does.

[Peach Josh]

He literally said he was.

[Rory Mall]

He didn't let Nas down.

[Peach Josh]

This is crazy.

[Baby D]

They don't know. I never expected certain to get it. You feel me? I never expected that. Like, y' all don't even know.

[Rory Mall]

Yo, a double disc.

[Baby D]

I saw that. I saw that.

[Rory Mall]

You might. We.

[Baby D]

So I heard. Did you hear the snippet that came afterwards? We. I fear we might be getting a bop. I fear you might be right.

[Rory Mall]

But I don't think. I think that was in reference to the Unabomber song that was on any given Sunday mixtape tape, because we're bringing it back in. Rewind with Cole. See it. I'm too much of a cold fan for y'. All. I can't. Y' all don't even understand this.

[Baby D]

Yeah, I don't even understand this.

[Rory Mall]

Mall is so mad right now.

[Baby D]

I feel we might actually be getting a bop.

[Rory Mall]

I'm with you.

[Baby D]

There's one line on here that I'm gonna have to fight with Mall about, and I just don't feel like I think I'm gonna take more time off work. Like, I'm about to cut my stitch open because I don't really feel like coming in.

[Rory Mall]

We're reacting off one. One. Watch.

[Peach Josh]

I don't.

[Baby D]

Oh, I'm have to listen. Number three. Y' all hung up. I'm like, why they hang up on me?

[Rory Mall]

You hung up on me.

[Baby D]

No, you banged on me, fool.

[Rory Mall]

Oh, that's Peach said.

[Peach Josh]

What line is it? What you talking about?

[Rory Mall]

Which line?

[Baby D]

I don't feel like. I don't feel like arguing. Like, I don't feel. Arguing.

[Peach Josh]

Who's arguing where?

[Baby D]

He said, my purpose is clear. Is to merk whoever dead. Whoever dead. Flirting with death. I don't. That's a lie. From what you hear now, it's the word. That line. I don't feel like.

[Rory Mall]

Like. But it. It was in rewind when he felt that way.

[Baby D]

Rewind.

[Rory Mall]

Exactly when he felt that way. Now he doesn't feel that way. Because he's not the gun based off for Antonio. See, I'm not cold, fans. You can't be mad at the line mall. He's saying at that time he felt that way. He doesn't.

[Peach Josh]

Still haven't said anything about this line still. I've never said anything about this. Nothing.

[Rory Mall]

That's the bit of this whole thing.

[Peach Josh]

Didn't say anything.

[Baby D]

Well, I don't even like laughing. Like, what's funny?

[Rory Mall]

I'm with you.

[Baby D]

You, I don't even. I don't find funny. For real. Y' all still filming?

[Rory Mall]

Well, yeah. The video dropped. I was about to leave and.

[Baby D]

Oh, yeah.

[Rory Mall]

Oh, all right. You know what? I. I take back a lot of stuff we said at the first half this episode. 50 bucks for a double disc vinyl. That's a steal. My apologies. Go $50 for two vinyls? Yeah, I ain't mad at that. That's a reason. That's a reasonable ass price.

[Baby D]

I was not expecting anything to drop. Except for the night before. I was not expecting, like, no little snippets, like, no nothing. I was not expecting none of that. So I am very happy that we got that again.

[Rory Mall]

We were reacting in real time. I thought we were gonna get a bunch of stuff from Cole because he's been working on this for so long and stuff isn't making the album that we're gonna get a lot of Lucy's. I even said when this video dropped, I said, this isn't making the album. Then I saw that the caption was track three. I think. I think we're gonna get a lot of music.

[Peach Josh]

Why did you feel like that wasn't making an album?

[Rory Mall]

Because I thought it was more marketing. Because I think he has so much music that he was just trying to get some of the good music off that didn't make sense for the album and that this would have been one of those. But I. I think we're gonna get at least two more records before February 6th.

[Baby D]

Breathe again.

[Peach Josh]

Word.

[Baby D]

All right, I'm gonna go listen to a couple more times. Yo, stay up.

[Rory Mall]

We love you. To Mary.

[Baby D]

Keep me updated, because I really have not.

[Rory Mall]

I'm.

[Baby D]

I'm so out of the Internet. Like, I was sitting up there scrolling on my phone. I didn't even know that that happened. So. Yeah, keep me updated.

[Peach Josh]

You just tweeted 20 minutes ago.

[Baby D]

Two hours ago. And when I tweet, I don't scroll my timeline. I just tweet, like. But thanks for letting me know you. Are you watching me?

[Rory Mall]

You feel me? Yeah.

[Peach Josh]

I opened my Phone.

[Rory Mall]

You mean opening the app?

[Peach Josh]

Oh, yeah, I opened my app and you was tweeting, like, what you.

[Baby D]

I don't know. Any of my algorithm. I don't know, but y'.

[Peach Josh]

All.

[Baby D]

You know what I'm saying?

[Peach Josh]

Are you back on Twitter? You back on Twitter?

[Baby D]

Yeah, I've been back. You just saw me tweet, right?

[Peach Josh]

I forgot you was going, so.

[Baby D]

Ain't that what you said?

[Rory Mall]

So I. I was thinking about this. Now that my Twitter is gone, I was thinking about starting an account called. This was Rory.

[Peach Josh]

Yeah, and then they gonna. And then. And then they gonna. And then they gonna respond to you with, this was racist. Whatever you do. They gonna be on. Your gonna throw them off? No, they gonna throw them off now. They go. They gonna be right back on your ass. That's what they gonna be doing.

[Rory Mall]

Well, this is. Roy's gone, so, you know, let's try to do past tense. All right. Well, yeah, Peach. I apologize. I don't even know how we're gonna do this edit, but here we are. Love, everyone. Peace. I know we said peace three times, but peace three times.

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[Baby D]

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