Episode 443 | Don't Be Dumb

Summary

New Rory & MAL Episode 443 | Don’t Be Dumb

Release Date: January 16, 2026
Podcast: New Rory & MAL — iHeartPodcasts / The Volume

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Episode Overview

This episode finds Rory and Mal in peak form, mixing irreverent takes on pop culture, hip hop, sports, and everyday absurdities. They break down the upcoming release of A$AP Rocky’s highly anticipated “Don’t Be Dumb,” discuss Uber’s new acceptance of cash, speculate about Rihanna features, touch on double albums in hip hop, weigh in on streaming retirements, reality TV drama, and share laughs about rap fandom, online moments, and more.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Health, Aging, and Job Embarrassment (01:40–04:04)

• Health Kicks & Gym New Year Observations:
  • Rory notices fewer new year gym goers; Mal jokes that everyone’s just getting old and finally feeling the aches.
  • “I should probably start checking these types of things.” (A, 02:28)
• Explaining Podcasting as a Job:
  • Rory describes awkwardness explaining being a podcaster to school staff, likening it to admitting you’re a drug dealer or have a mixtape/T-shirt startup.
  • “Saying you have a podcast is almost like saying you’re a drug dealer. It’s almost embarrassing.” (B, 03:12)

2. Uber Accepts Cash — Is This Progress? (04:04–07:00)

• Safety Concerns:
  • Mal expresses nostalgia/concern for cabs of the ‘90s and stories of robbery.
  • “Uber accepting cash…I don’t know if we want to go back to that.” (B, 04:38)
  • Cash rides aimed at ‘unbanked’ users, but Mal questions the safety for drivers.
• Side-deals with Uber Drivers:
  • Both hosts admit to cutting off-app deals with drivers for better rates.
  • Mal: “Turn your app off, man…I got you for the night.” (06:16)

3. Tech Talk: Verizon Outage Paranoia (08:17–09:35)

• A widespread Verizon outage sparks jokes and light conspiracies:
  • “It’s like that Obama-produced movie where all the power goes out and Teslas start doing backflips.” (A, 08:50)
  • “Something’s going on, man. You got to watch these guys.” (B, 09:31)
  • Rory feigns geo-political ignorance about Greenland’s cities.

4. MAIN SEGMENT: Anticipation for A$AP Rocky’s “Don’t Be Dumb” (10:45–15:19)

• Tracklist & Features Analysis:
  • Features include Brent Faiyaz, Doechii, Tyler, the Creator, Westside Gunn, Thundercat, and perhaps a secret Rihanna feature.
  • Mal: “Tyler and Rocky—okay. I want to hear what they’re doing.” (B, 11:35)
• Rihanna Speculation:
  • Rory thinks she’ll appear uncredited; Mal doubts it:
    “Rihanna’s fans…will be pissed…Don’t give us harmonies on Rocky’s track. Don’t do that. Give us a record at least.” (B, 15:20)
• Record-breaking Presaves:
  • The hosts parse the stat—1 million presaves—but remain skeptical about its ultimate significance for first-week sales.
  • “Pre-save is just so it pops up on your Spotify or Apple…not the same as a sale.” (A, 12:29)
• Excitement Levels:
  • Both seem more genuinely excited for this Rocky album than his recent outputs.
  • “I think this might be the first Rocky album in a while that I’m actually excited for.” (A, 14:35)

5. J. Cole’s Double Disc Album & The Double Album Debate (19:55–29:48)

• Cole Dropping on Rocky’s Release:
  • No real animosity: “He’s got a million presaves. I don’t think people…will skip Rocky for Cole.” (A, 20:20)
• The Double Album Dilemma:
  • They recall the highs (Biggie’s ‘Life After Death’, 2Pac’s ‘All Eyez On Me’, OutKast’s ‘Speakerboxxx/The Love Below’) and bloat of hip hop multi-disc projects.
  • “That double disc thing can come back to bite you…too much music is not good.” (B, 22:51)
  • “Blueprint 2, Diplomatic Immunity—didn’t need to be double discs.” (A, 26:17, B, 27:04)
• Risks for Cole:
  • “If this is in fact a double disc, there is a very high risk in that, though.” (B, 24:22)

6. Reality TV Absurdities: Recap of Baddies (31:09–36:57)

• Rory reviews “Baddies: New York” after Mal put him on.
  • He’s shocked at the blend of fistfights and a full-on rap show.
  • “I thought the concept was just: beat up for your bed!” (A, 31:47)
• White Woman Using the N-word on Stage:
  • Gretchen (white cast member) causes chaos; Suki rightfully confronts her.
  • “She said, don’t say that in front of me. Then Gretchen said: don’t call me a [bitch].” (A + B, 34:38–34:56)
• Mal comments: “She didn’t even see the irony.” (B, 35:02)

7. Viral Civic Moments: The New York Mayor & Trump’s Middle Finger (36:45–41:37)

• Mal and Rory joke through news of former NYC Mayor Eric Adams telling a fellow passenger to 'go fuck herself.'
• On Trump’s Middle Finger:
  • The guy who received it started a GoFundMe and made $800,000.
  • “Wait till I see Trump—I’m yelling!” (B, 40:00)
  • Reflects on the viral economy: “White woman says something racist—next day, millionaire.” (A, 40:25)

8. TV Updates: Euphoria and P-Valley (42:22–45:34)

• Euphoria Back, Wacky Plot:
  • Rory: “This is a GTA trailer…Rue’s turned into a cartel boss?!? Wasn’t it just heroin and high school?” (A, 43:13–43:23)
• P-Valley Return?
  • J. Alphonse reportedly says Season 3 is filmed, so they speculate on release.
  • “That show was such a great show. I don’t know what happened.” (B, 44:58)

9. Content Creators and Quitting: Kai Cenat’s Streaming Retirement? (45:50–48:35)

• They discuss Kai Cenat’s claim he’s quitting streaming to focus on fashion.
  • Both skeptical: “I don’t know if quitting is the word…maybe just focusing on other things.” (B, 47:06)

10. Going Viral for the Dream: Security Guards Who Rap (48:35–54:00)

• Recount viral moments where security guards quit to rap for stars or crash ciphers.
  • Mal: “That’s the only reason I came here.” (B, 49:08)
• Classic Story:
  • Security joining Jay-Z and DMX in a cipher (51:00)

11. Debating the Best ‘Melody’ Rapper: Don Toliver vs. Rod Wave (54:29–57:21)

• Mal admires Don Toliver’s festival set and catalog, asking if he’s better than Rod Wave.
  • Rory: “My preference falls on Don Toliver…Rod Wave is more teenage sadness to me.” (A&B, 56:22)
  • Both agree Don is underrated.

12. Spread Them: The Weekly NFL Bets Segment (62:17–68:05)

• They compare NFL picks for Bills/Broncos, 49ers/Seahawks, Texans/Patriots, Rams/Bears.
• Stakes:
  • Loser must attempt to live stream naming 1,000 rappers.
  • “I’ll be on this stream longer than Kai Cenat—naming a thousand rappers is not easy!” (B, 64:55)

13. Music Versus Hypotheticals: Trey Songz vs. Ne-Yo (72:21–80:03)

• Caller Asks: Who wins in a ‘Verzuz’ battle: Trey Songz or Ne-Yo?
  • Both pick Ne-Yo, citing his classic albums, but acknowledge Trey’s deep catalog and mixtape era.
  • “Year of the Gentleman—is that a classic album? Definitely.” (A&B, 76:00)
  • Mini-debate about Nicki Minaj’s feature run in 2010 follows.

14. Voicemails & Community (72:15–81:24)

• Shoutout to producer Demaris for a speedy recovery, via a heartfelt voicemail.
• Closing with appreciation for the show’s community vibe.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Explaining Your Job:
  • “Saying you have a podcast is almost like saying you’re a drug dealer.” (B, 03:12)
• On Uber Cash Payments:
  • “If someone says, you got change for 100, drive to the nearest precinct.” (A, 06:43)
• On ‘Double Albums’ in Hip Hop:
  • “Sometimes too much music is not good…It can fall into the ‘we didn’t need this’ category.” (B, 22:51)
• On Double Album Risks:
  • “Very high risk. You run the risk of being like, we didn’t need that much or that double disc.” (A, 24:25)
• On Rocky & Rihanna Collaboration:
  • “If Rihanna was on it, he’s going to put her name. He knows what that does for business.” (B, 12:10)
• On Kai Cenat’s Retirement:
  • “Streamers are like rappers: you can’t quit rapping.” (B, 48:01)
• On Fandom Economics:
  • “White woman says something racist—they’re millionaires by the next day.” (A, 40:25)
• On Rap Fandom:
  • “Namin’ a thousand rappers? I’ll be on this stream longer than Kai Cenat. That’s not easy.” (B, 64:55)
• On Verzuz Battles:
  • “I think more people would react to Ne-Yo songs in the Ne-Yo set…Just a different level of songwriting and music.” (B, 75:30)

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Episode Timestamps

| Time | Segment / Topic | |------------|---------------------------------------------------| | 01:40 | Health, gym, aging, and explaining podcast jobs | | 04:04 | Uber accepts cash: risks and nostalgia | | 08:17 | Verizon outage jokes/conspiracies | | 10:45 | A$AP Rocky’s “Don’t Be Dumb” anticipation | | 15:19 | Speculating on Rihanna feature, pre-saves | | 19:55 | J. Cole’s double disc & double albums in hip hop | | 31:09 | Reality TV review: “Baddies” (Gretchen/N-word) | | 36:45 | NYC Mayor/Trump flipping the bird moments | | 42:22 | Euphoria’s new cartel plot; P-Valley status | | 45:50 | Kai Cenat’s “retirement” from streaming | | 48:35 | Security guard/rapper viral moments | | 54:29 | Don Toliver vs. Rod Wave | | 62:17 | Spread Them: NFL picks & punishment stakes | | 72:21 | Voicemails: Trey Songz vs. Ne-Yo Verzuz | | 81:24 | Closing, shout outs |

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Tone & Overall Vibe

Irreverent, playful, and a bit chaotic — Rory and Mal riff on everything from mundane to major news in the culture. The episode is rich with inside jokes, self-effacing banter, and pop culture savvy, making it enjoyable even for listeners new to the show.

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For anyone who hasn’t listened, this summary covers all the major discussion points, musical debates, hilarious tangents, and signature banter between Rory and Mal.

Transcript

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Oh, I feel so refreshed, Rory.

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I mean, I just saw you a few hours ago.

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I know, but I went home. I got, you know, okay. Worked out, got some rest.

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Nice.

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You know what I mean? Like, okay, Feel good, man. Well, chest, legs, little cardio.

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Okay.

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You know what I mean? Little cardio. And got a little cardio session. Late night.

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Nice.

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Listen to some music.

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Okay.

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Had the gym to myself, you know, you got the gym to yourself. It's like. Yeah, it's like, you know me.

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I kind of noticed that this year was different at the new year. Usually the gyms are, like, completely packed.

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The first week that's over.

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It kind of was empty.

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People don't.

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At least on my end. Yeah.

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I will say this. I do like to see that. Well, I've noticed that more people are more health conscious these days. Like, even people I never thought would care about health and working out, they're trying to get in there a little bit.

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Or we're just getting older and realizing that, you know, it hurts to get out of Bed. Sometimes.

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Yeah.

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It's like, I should probably start checking these types of things.

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So Amara jumped on my lower back the other day, and I'm cooked.

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He almost called up, didn't make no.

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Literally could not sleep last night type thing. Like, every move, I miss my back. I've been doing some more school tours with her, and I thought it was like, awkward at holidays trying to explain what your job is, but what a. Like a parent coordinator after a tour is like, so what do you guys do for a living? Podcast.

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Podcast.

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A podcast, you say? That would say a podcast.

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Say your podcast is almost like saying you're a drug dealer. It's like almost the same thing. It's like, almost embarrassing. Like, you got to kind of whisper it, like. Yeah, well, you know, giving podcasts. Such a.

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Such a nasty Rep. 35 working on this mixtape.

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Yeah, it's the same thing.

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10 years ago is going to hit, but, you know, it's still. I got this T shirt line I'm working on.

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Still swinging. Still swinging.

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But, yeah, it's. It's an. It's an awkward thing to say.

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Yeah.

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As. As much as this is like, you know, a very respected career now, it's still weird to say to people that are like, educators.

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It's been very lucrative, for sure.

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Yeah, no, it's been. Been fine. I mean, I'm. I'm still going to Mondami's public schools, though. Yeah, everything's free now. As of yesterday, 3k pre k. Good luck with that.

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I saw that.

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But then I still got my bill in the mail.

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It's funny how that works, right? Like, but it was free. No, nothing is free.

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After they lost tomorrow's lunch yesterday, I.

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Saw that Ubers are now accepting cash.

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Yeah, I saw that as well.

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I don't know if that's a good idea.

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Why do you say that?

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Cause I used to take cabs in the early 90s.

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Okay, all right, fair enough. The 2000s as well.

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Listen, the guy that's on Mom Donnie's team. My song. We love him. Do we know what he went to jail for?

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Robbed a cab driver.

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He robbed the cab driver. Mice, I love you, you know you my guy. But I'm just saying, allegedly.

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We don't know if he did allegedly.

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The case over. Like, we know what he went to jail.

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Maybe he didn't get a fair Shake, I didn't keep up with the driver.

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I'm just saying Uber's accepting cash. I don't know if we want to go back to that. I don't know, Rory. I'm just. I'm still. Yeah, I think going paperless is, you know, is a good thing for. For all, you know, cab drivers or Uber.

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Uber drivers, yeah. I'm curious why they would do this.

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Well, they're saying that, yes, Uber accepts cash in many markets, allowing verified riders to pay drivers directly, though drivers can opt out, so. Meaning the driver would have to say that he does accept cash. And cash rides are often restricted to daytime hours. Yeah. Cause nobody ever gets. Nobody ever gets robbed in the daytime.

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Well, who's verified on from 6am to.

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10Pm you can pay with cash. 10:01. No more cash, Rory. Due to safety concerns with the driver collecting the fare from the rider at the trips. And this feature expands across. Excuse me. This feature expands access for unbanked users, but creates new challenges for drivers who handle the cash and must input the exact amount in the app. Now, I've taken Ubers before. Well, got in an Uber, and, you know, a lot of the drivers, they'll say, how much are they charging for this ride? And I'll say, whatever it is, it's 70 bucks. Right? He's like, I'm only making $30 off of this.

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Yeah, right.

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He's like, yo, just give me the 30. Like, drivers have done that to me.

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I've done that.

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Give me the $30. Like, or just give me like, 40. You know, I mean, like. And we'll just like, instead of you paying 70, just give me 40. And I'm like, all right, cool.

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I pay the driver for the night. Like, if we got a lot and call Uber, like, yo, what do you usually make for the night that they take? And you just come up with a price that they make more money and you don't have to pay as much.

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Especially if it's a driver that's like, you know, the good drivers, where they're like, you know, they. They know how to drive.

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Yeah. They have many vacuums.

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They don't even really use the. They have the GPS on, but they don't really use it. They know the city like the back of their palm. They like, I don't go this way. Cut down this block so we don't have to go back. Those type of drivers. And then, like, it's date night. Like, you're going on a date. I'm like, yo, turn the. Turn. Turn your App off, man. I got you for the night, man. I'm gonna need you for about four hours, man.

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You end up paying less if you're moving around a lot.

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100. I just don't know how safe it is for drivers to have cash anymore. But, you know, I mean, maybe the country's safer now.

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I don't know if you're an Uber driver listening to this podcast in your Uber now, if somebody says, yo, you got changed for a hundred, just be. Just be a little scared.

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Yeah, just drive to your. Just drive to the nearest precinct, that's all.

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Anytime somebody. You got changed for 100.

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Yeah, no, don't.

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I don't.

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I actually do not have change. 400, sir.

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But I mean, I doubt that there's going to be like that many cash transactions that. That would be a lucrative robbery.

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Yeah.

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To even do that. Like, it's not like the cab days.

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I noticed that ever since these rideshare apps announced that they were giving female drivers the option to pick up males or not. I've only maybe gotten one female driver since.

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Okay.

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So I don't know if it went into effect and like all of the, you know, female drivers just switching it to just female passengers only. I don't. I don't know if they did that or not. But there has definitely been like, I've noticed it like, damn, like women don't want to pick me up no more when I call them.

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I mean, you must be furious then, cuz you don't think one women should drive to be able to handle cash or money or responsibilities.

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No, your money. You come up short if they handle your money. You let a woman handle your money and your cash, you gonna come up short. What you handed her early that day is not what you're gonna get back. At the end of the night, you.

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Be in your own Uber getting called broke.

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That's. That's a fact.

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I saw that Verizon put out a statement to say that they. They failed us all and they apologize. And you, you can Go and collect a $20 credit if you'd like. They won't just. They just won't prorate everyone's bill. You have to go through a website and fucking collect your $20.

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Yeah, okay, well, I have Boost, of course, and mine didn't go out. And I heard AT and T didn't go out. I think it was just a Verizon thing.

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Yeah.

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In the tri state. But that's kind of scary. That's like that Obama produced movie where like all the electricity starts going out. Tesla start doing fucking backflips. Yeah, it's coming.

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So I was testing something Michelle was.

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Trying to tell us.

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Yeah. What they was testing yesterday. Something which I think Verizon was testing because that doesn't just happen.

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See if they could shut off the power in Denmark.

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Yeah.

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I just want to use the tri state real quick.

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See, are we trying to see if we can get 5G in. In Greenland? Is that what we're trying to do right now? What are they doing over there, man? That doesn't just happen. You don't just.

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We are pro. We are the closest. Well, no, I guess Boston would be the closest major city to Greenland or. Well, in the States. Yeah, I guess Toronto and all that. But yeah, I could see us being the guinea pig.

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Something going on. Something going on. Man, you got to watch these guys.

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Is there major cities in green? I know it sounds ignorant. I never learned anything.

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Major cities. No, I don't know about a mate.

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Like, I know you can go see them with like northern lights and all that. I. I think that's cool, but like, do people just chill there?

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Greenland's major cities, all coastal and relatively small by global standards. Rory are led by the capital, Nuke, followed by Sismut and Elise. I see Asset and Kakadok, which serve as key cultural, economic and tourism hubs. With Nuke housing a significant portion of the nation's population. Nook is the capital and largest city located on the southwest coast. Rory acting as the political and economic center with modern amenities. So. Yes.

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Got Verizon because you won't even know.

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Oh my God. That's not funny.

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But it's definitely not funny at all. Yeah, and shout out to everyone.

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Shout out to everybody. And nothing, man.

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Yeah, I'm sure we have a lot of listeners.

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Yeah, it looks beautiful. I love to love the colors and the Landscape. It looks like a beautiful, beautiful place.

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For sure. Absolutely. New music Friday. We are recording this on Thursday. I want to say the biggest release we have coming up outside of, obviously the cold record dropping, would be the A.S.A.P Rocky, don't be Dumb album, which we're finally getting.

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Hey, Rocky.

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I really thought he was trolling us for years, and it was called don't be Dumb because we were dumb.

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Yeah.

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Thinking it was ever gonna drop. But he put out a track list as well as features.

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Who we got on there, who we got?

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Boss Mandelo, Brent Faze, Dochi.

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Brent.

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Brent's on there.

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Okay.

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Rocky, Thundercat, Tyler, Creator, Westside Gun, Will I am. It's a cool list of features.

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Good features.

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And again, I've liked the records he's put out probably more than I've liked new Rocky music in a while. So I am actually, this is one that I will turn on right away when it does drop.

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Tyler, the creator. That's interesting. Tyler and Rocky. Okay.

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I mean, they're really close friends.

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Yeah. No, I'm just saying, just anytime, you know, they're doing music together, it's like, okay, I want to hear what they're doing.

[A]

Do we think Rihanna is on this album? But more as a secret feature. I can see that because he put up a billboard. Um, I think that was on 34th street with all the features. I can. I could see like a hidden Rihanna track on there or a hidden feature where she's not listed.

[B]

No, I think if Rihanna was on it, he's going to put her name.

[A]

But I don't know. Rocky's like, cool. Like, he probably think it's cooler not to put Rihanna up there. Like, not.

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Yeah, but Rocky is also a businessman and he knows what that does. He know what that does for business.

[A]

I mean, he has 1 million pre saves in headlines every festival.

[B]

I believe that 1 million pre saves, though.

[A]

He broke the record.

[B]

Shout out to Rocky. What was the record? That is true, but I don't know if I believe that. Like, it's like we. Like you said, who. Who had held the record before that and how much. How many pre saves did they have?

[A]

Like, I know pre orders. That was always a stat. Pre orders. Yeah, because we know you have purchased this already. But I mean, pre save is just so it pops up on your Spotify or Apple when whatever, it comes out.

[B]

How many. How many monthly listeners does Rocky have?

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Probably a lot.

[B]

Let's look at that. Because I just want to see something real quick. I mean it. Listen, like you said, Rocky is always headlining every festival. I mean, that's the Rocky Harlem legend. But I'm just a million pre saves.

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And we're not taking anything away from Rocky and who he is as a legend in his own right.

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His brand is. Is incredible.

[A]

But 38 million monthly listeners, I can see it. And even when we used to clown like, yo, who is Rocky's booking agent? Because we need them. Anytime I do see footage of him headlining a festival, everybody is singing every single word.

[B]

I mean, Rocky's a legend. He has a co following. We know that. I'm just, just seeing a million pre saves is like, damn, like, okay, that's great. And he didn't put a single or nothing out, right?

[A]

Helicopters. And then he punk Rocky.

[B]

Two weeks.

[A]

Ago and then helicopter came a few days after that.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

But I mean the features are cool. I definitely want to hear him with the Gorillaz. I haven't heard from them in a while, so I think that that'll be cool.

[B]

The top 10 most pre saved albums on Spotify currently Life of a showgirl at 5.5 million. Deadbeat 675, 000 everybody screamed for you.

[A]

This is three months ago.

[B]

Okay, so.

[A]

So on average it's usually in the thousands, not in the millions. All right, well, I mean, shit do we think that translates to? Because even if I pre save it and just listen to it once, that's not really like a. A big stat to your first week numbers. You know, I think I have to listen to it like 1500 times for you to get one. One stream.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So I mean, I'm curious to see how that translate with sales. Not that I really give a fuck about sales, but because that was a stat that they said he broke the record. I'm always interested in those type of stats. But yeah, I think this might be the first Rocky album in a while that I'm actually pretty excited for.

[B]

I'm looking forward to it. I mean, he was kind of, you know, flirting with the idea of putting out an album for a while. So now that it's here and then Rocky is very, you know, creative, artistic, pays attention to detail. So it's not going to be terrible. It's going to be interesting. It's going to be. Hopefully he tries some different things musically.

[A]

I mean, he did on. On punk Rocky. Yeah, it's definitely not something that he's usually done sonically or musically, so.

[B]

And like you said, life is a little different for Rocky now. He can. Yeah, he can create from a very, very free.

[A]

He takes some risks he could create.

[B]

From a very free. A very free place, a very free mind.

[A]

Yeah, but. Yeah, I still. I still cannot see Rihanna not at least putting some harms or something. Something on this project.

[B]

I don't think so, man.

[A]

An interlude.

[B]

Cause I think Rihanna know people will be pissed at that. Like, yo, why you. Like, why are you playing with us? Like, you can't be in no booth recording anything, and it's not your album. Like, if people know Rihanna went to a studio and did whatever she. You think she may have done for Rocky's album, I think her fans are gonna be pissed. Like, yo, don't. Come on. You can't go to the studio, not give us at least a song. Like, don't give us harmonies on Rocky's track. Don't do that. Give us a record at least.

[A]

I mean, well, I guess Lemonade had came out the year prior. I mean, Beyonce was on 444. Did she give us anything in 2017?

[B]

Yeah, but. But Beyonce. Probably. But Beyonce.

[A]

2017 or 18.

[B]

Beyonce has never taken 10, 12 years off of. Of putting out any music on the album, so.

[A]

Yeah, I. I mean, but she did the. The. The Smurf record.

[B]

She did give us the Smurf. She did give us the Smurf thing.

[A]

So.

[B]

I mean, nobody knows that song. I still. I. I'm gonna keep it real with you, Rory. I never even heard that song. I never even listened to it.

[A]

I'm not. I'm not saying it got, like, a million.

[B]

I know you're not saying that. I'm just saying, as a Rihanna fan, I never even went to listen to that.

[A]

I heard it once.

[B]

How was.

[A]

Sounds like it should be in a smartphony.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Like, it definitely, like, worked for what she was trying to do with the movie.

[B]

Listen, I. I know. I know Rihanna's fans are. You know, they want music, and as a Rihanna fan, I would. I would definitely be very happy if I open my phone to see Rihanna announce an album, if that's what it.

[A]

Takes to go on your husband's album. I'll take anything from Rihanna at this.

[B]

Point musically, but it's just when you listen, when Rihanna's doing what she's doing in beauty in that fashion world, it's like, let's say we're Right now. If you. If you start doing something in the beauty and fashion world, and you're. You're a billion in that somebody, I'm quitting. Like, when are you going to put out the next album? You're gonna look at somebody like, what Like, I'm not putting out no fucking music.

[A]

But that's why I think she would be on Rocky's project. Like, NBA YoungBoy is putting out Slime Cry tomorrow. If she was on that, I'd be very surprised. But that's her husband and father of her children's album. I'm sure Rocky records a lot in their crib. Like, I can see her just being around that creativity and a safe space to do some shit.

[B]

I'm on the other side. I think Rihanna goes in the studio. Rocky's in there like this. What you doing? She turns her nose up at music now. What is this board? This soundboard, engineer? What is this engineering there with you? What is this?

[A]

I hear you, but I think Rocky, again, to what you were saying before. He has space to just create how he wants to. There's really no pressure because he's financially secure forever. I think he could try some cool shit where Rihanna would be like, I've never been bet on something like that. Now she was married to Bruno Mars. I could see Rihanna being like, all right, we're doing this. This again. I'll stick to the lipstick.

[B]

Okay?

[A]

Everyone's gotten this. This type of record for me. I'm cool. But if Rocky does some weird grunge left, I can see Rihanna getting on that.

[B]

Well, I think you're wrong, but we will see.

[A]

I'm just trying to speak in existence. More reality.

[B]

No, I know. I know.

[A]

Every day I just want more.

[B]

I get it. I understand.

[A]

But, yeah, I know you're. You can't wait for the young boy slime cry.

[B]

Listen, I told you the. I forgot the young lady's name that sent me a NBA Youngboy playlist. Listen, man, I'm. I'm on board.

[A]

I told you. Millie's got me on. Sent me some records. I. I with him that, you know, his documentary shook me a little bit. Sometimes I don't like to know what you're saying is true. Yeah, sometimes I would hope it's just entertainment, but, you know, I hope the good people of Baton Rouge are safe after this. This album. That's all I care about, really, at this point. Yeah, yeah. I'm at that age where I care about tax base.

[B]

The good people of Baton Rouge are safe. Yes.

[A]

But, yeah, I'm going to give the Youngboy album a spin. It won't be, you know, rushing to it, but I definitely will over the weekend, Wiz, chaotic album dropping. I definitely am looking forward to.

[B]

We got to support Wiz because he's no longer allowed to go to Romania. So we got to make sure that, you know, we give him all the. Nah.

[A]

Andrew Tate is going to pardon him.

[B]

Give Wiz all the support. As if Wiz cares about never having to go to Romania again. But definitely want to listen to the new Wiz album for sure.

[A]

And this is where I'm a little confused. The game DJ Drama, Mike and Keys is. It's another mixtape.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Okay. Because I know we just got one, and obviously we know game works pretty quickly, so they probably had 40 leftover records. And we're like, let's go. Let's do part two.

[B]

You know what this is? Definitely know what this is.

[A]

Yeah. Which I'm not mad at. But, yeah, there's. There's some good music coming out. Singles here and there. Joyner, Lucas. I'll give it a spin. But, yeah, other than that, it's pretty much asap. Rocky's day.

[B]

If you're Rocky, how do you feel about Cole dropping? Announcing? That kind of is the talk of social media right now. The timeline, obviously. DISS2, track two is out right now. Like, if you're. If you're Rocky, are you punching the air like Trey and Boyz n the Hood? Are you, like, pissed off like, God damn it, Cole again?

[A]

I think Rocky has a large core fan base that clearly it didn't hurt him.

[B]

He got a million presets.

[A]

I don't think people forgot about the entire thing. And Cole just, you know, I don't want to say that's going to come across bad to listeners. He just dropped a record like, it's just one song. If it was a double disc album on the same day as Don't Be Dumb, I'd be furious.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

If I was anybody putting out music.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But no, I don't think it affects much of anything. And, you know, we got the record yesterday. I don't think it's going to affect people wanting to go listen and don't be dumb at midnight at all. And, I mean, they're cool. Post beef, they did a record together and video. Like, I'm sure Rocky was well aware and, you know, didn't particularly care.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Now, if Cole starts going crazy since the double disc and we start getting five records before February 6, like, if he floods this weekend. Yeah. I'd be a little mad if I was right.

[B]

Definitely gotta look at it. Like, all right, man. Come on, dog. Like, what's up?

[A]

Then at that point, you gotta knock on the bedroom door, hey, Rihanna, we gotta do a deluxe.

[B]

Yeah, definitely.

[A]

Like, I need 44 records. We're doing an EP. Yeah, yeah.

[B]

That's what you want to. All right. 60 Fenty billboards are going up tonight. We'll show you, Cole. 60 Fenty billboards all across Manhattan.

[A]

Yeah. What did you think? Because, I mean, we re recorded in real time. For those that listened to our episode that came out on Thursday, we were reacting in real time to the J. Cole record. He announced it when we started recording, then we finished recording, and then he put out the video and the song, so we went back and recorded. So that was our in the moment reaction.

[B]

Yeah. Cole, I was late for my lunch date with my mom because of you. It's okay.

[A]

That's where the resentment comes. Yeah, I'm sure Cole's actually happy about that. Based off everything. You thought Rocky was mad at Cola, Cole's mad at Mole. I mean, the. The reactions, at least I saw. Because again, algorithms kind of keep you in your own bubble. I saw really positive reviews of the song.

[B]

Yeah, Yeah. I mean, we. We gave a positive review. We liked it. I do think that the video is better than the actual song, but, I mean, both still good, though.

[A]

Okay. Yeah. I. Terribly mad at that take. Yeah, I think it's a really good intro, like to start. Definitely to start a rollout.

[B]

Definitely a good appetizer. Yeah, that was an appetizer. It was an app of the appetizer.

[A]

So, I mean, I think that was great, but now people seem to with it, and I'm curious where this double disc lenses like 20 records. We're doing 10 and 10, 15 and 15. What's life after death? 24 and all eyes on me. It's probably 25 or something like that.

[B]

Yeah, because, listen, man, as we know, Rory, it's. It's, you know, while as fans and, you know, supporters, we're happy to get music, but that double disc thing can come back to bite you because sometimes too much music is not good.

[A]

Again, I. We were talking yesterday, outside of Life After Death and All Eyes On Me, I don't know if there's a really, like, classic double disc in hip hop.

[B]

She said he wasn't feeling blueprint too.

[A]

I think if it. If. I mean, him. Him and him and Guru both said if we condense this down to one album. No, this might be a classic. It was too much music. It's low on my. My Jay Z discography. It has great music on it, but I'm cool. Even Streets Disciple by Nas, there's great records on there. You condense that one down to 12, you have an incredible Nas project.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like, once he starts getting into the AIDS songs and manipulating his voice, where we all thought it was little Kim, but it was like, Nas. Nas pitched up.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

That's when. All right, we're a little too deep into this album.

[B]

Y' all was in there trying anything at that point. Yeah, I don't want that. Y' all could have kept that one.

[A]

My white blood cells are not good. I'm like, all right, there we go. This is going far.

[B]

But that's a real thing, though. So that's. That's one of the things that I'm like, you know, Because I know that no matter what I say, I can't say anything that's deemed to be anything negative about Cole without people think I'm hating or I don't like J. Cole. So I get that part. But double disc. If this is, in fact, a double disc, there is a very high risk in that, though.

[A]

We've seen our legends fail at it.

[B]

Very high risk. It could be short. You're right. It could be 8 and 8. I was thinking it could be 7 and 7, whatever. You know, it could. Not saying it has to be 12 and 12 and 15 and 15. I get that. But still, like, you run the risk of it being like, we didn't need the double. It can fall into the we didn't need this much or that, you know, double disc. We didn't need that.

[A]

I was thinking when we left about that concept that was originally rumored with the features of the older artists. I could see disc one being all features, and then disc two being no features. Cause that second one is disc two, track two.

[B]

You're on your bag. You're on your producer bag right now.

[A]

But we've talked about how this has changed. It's about to be five or six years since he announced this album has changed so much. I could see him doing it that way because there's so much music. Like, I still want to do this feature concept, but, you know, I have all this other solo music.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But. Yeah. So Life after death is 14 and 12, which is a lot.

[B]

14. And so it's 26.

[A]

Then all eyes on me is 14 and 14.

[B]

Jesus, 28 tracks. That's just too much music, man.

[A]

But they didn't miss. Yeah. Hockey Big did not miss on anything.

[B]

I get it. But that's just like. When you look at that, like, think about it now, it's like, damn. That's. That's just. I don't. I'm just being honest. I don't want to listen to nobody that much on one project. Like, I just don't like 26 songs.

[A]

Scorpion is 12 and 13. But he also had. He also had the cheat code of one being R B and one being hip hop. So it was two different albums, two different vibes.

[B]

What about Sweat and Soup with Nelly?

[A]

It's not a. Not a bad album. But coming off Country Grammar in Nellyville and then getting into that, it was like, all right, man. I don't know if we needed.

[B]

11 and 14. Blueprint to 25. Okay. Yeah, just two. It's just. That's just too much. When you get into 20, anything. 20, you be like, how many tracks you had? 20. I'm just like, all right, man. You couldn't get the message across in 14.

[A]

What was the. The gangster, the gangstar one? That was like a. More of a greatest hits. Right? I think I had a gangstar double disc. I think it was more like.

[B]

Yeah, that had that. I think that would have to be a double. Yeah.

[A]

Even I'm trying to think of Bone Thugs was it Art of War.

[B]

Didn't need that.

[A]

Again, it was so much music, especially.

[B]

With that flow and that. That. This is like, nah, that's just too much. Like, we. Dipset had two album. A double disc. Diplomatic. Yeah. I think Diplomatic Meeting was a double. This wasn't.

[A]

It was a double disc.

[B]

Yeah, everybody. It was an era where everybody was trying to shoot. That was almost like a stat to be able to get a double disc. Golf.

[A]

Yeah. Oh, no. For sure.

[B]

I was like, yo, where's your double disc, though? Like, you ain't got a double disc.

[A]

Well, that's what Guru said. He said to. To Hove.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like, when they were about to start, he's like, well, you know, you. You haven't done the double disc like Big and Pac.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

It's like, well, maybe we shouldn't have wu Tang Forever. 27 tracks.

[B]

Yeah, but it's 27 members in Wu Tang.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

That doesn't count. That's like everybody having a solo song. That doesn't. That doesn't count.

[A]

Scarface. Scarface My homies. Again, not super high on my discography with Scarface.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Mass Be the last Don, Nate, Dog, G Fun classics. I would have to go back and look at that track list. It's a lot of West coast corrupt. E40, Cypress Hill. Yeah. Diplomat community was a double disc. 27 tracks, outcast, speaker box level. I. I don't consider that.

[B]

It's not a. It's. Yes. It was packaged as a Double disc. Yes, but two different albums.

[A]

And one's a rap album, one's not exactly. I didn't know little Flip gave us one. Where were you in 04 when. When flip gave us the double disc?

[B]

I remember that. I remember Flips double disc.

[A]

Oh, UGK Underground Kings. That was a good double disc. 26 records. I'll give them that.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Not quite on the Life After Death or All Eyes on Me, but yeah, that. That UGK Underground Kings album is a great double disc. All right, well, Cole, I. I respect it. That's just a lot of.

[B]

We gotta.

[A]

It's a lot of pressure.

[B]

We gonna see.

[A]

All right. Does that put pressure? I'm not making this a big three thing, guys. I promise. But just based off what like Guru had said to hov like, yo, all the legends have put out double discs. Even at that point was Mr. Morale.

[B]

Was that a double disc?

[A]

Was that considered? Yeah.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

Cole was the only one left.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Cole's only left.

[B]

2, 6. 2 disc. What? You said 2, 6. 2 disc. 2 6. All right. All right, man.

[A]

But even then, like I. I put scorpion and. And Mr. Morale lower in their. Their discographies too tough. So I don't know. I. I don't think Cole and the people around him would allow him to do a double disc if they didn't feel like it was up to par.

[B]

And they've been working on this for so long.

[A]

Yeah. Like if they haven't even. Like, if certain songs haven't even gotten old to them yet and it's been five years and. Yeah, maybe it's a flawless double disc.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So we'll see more. What's that right there? It doesn't look like the most powerful iPhone that's ever existed.

[B]

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[A]

Show me the way. In more important news, Mo, I did watch Baddies.

[B]

How we looking? How we looking?

[A]

All right, here's my thing.

[B]

Who you like?

[A]

Gretchen.

[B]

I watch Gretchen. That's your girl, Gretchen. I got a lot in common, actually. You and Gretch, Gretchen, y' all got a lot. Y' all got a little bit of something going on. Yeah. I think y' all might be in the same group chat somewhere.

[A]

I'll take. I'll take that one on the chin. As Cole said on stage, my chin is out. I'll take that one gracefully.

[B]

Oh, man.

[A]

So I was only familiar with Baddies when you had brought it up two seasons ago. So I really thought the concept of the show was literally just beat up for your bed.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Which is great. I was entertained. Then they went to Africa and I had to tune out after they were fighting in front of the. The tribal dances. And. Yeah, I just thought they took it a little too far.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

This is Baddies, and it's in New York, and it's got a bunch of people, like, I know on it. I had no idea that all these people were in Baddies. Like, friend of the show, Mariah Lynn. She's on there. Sukiyana, she's on there.

[B]

There's Suki been on there, though.

[A]

This, I think, again, they weren't never on the seasons I watched.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

And I also didn't know that Baddies, all of them rap now. They did, like, an SOB showcase. The first episode was just like a SOB showcase where every single girl went up there to rap. I had. I thought they were just beating each other for beds.

[B]

No, I'm beating each other for beds and beating each other with bars. Like, that's just beating being a baddie. You got to be have bars. You got to have beds. Solar to bees, Baddies, Beds and bars.

[A]

And I did not know that. What I didn't know Natalie Nun wrapped.

[B]

How you didn't know that she. This. The intro is her rapping.

[A]

I realized that when she performed it, I said, that's been Natalie Nunn the whole time.

[B]

Yeah, that's a bar.

[A]

And then I didn't know the founder of Zeus is also a rapper. Go figure. And they did a little, you know, kiss and styles back and forth on the performance.

[B]

Naturally.

[A]

And then he had to. He said he was. He had to leave the showcase early because he was growing the brand in Milan. And they said he just brought two. Two bad chicks. I didn't always say, I'm gonna bring them with me. We're gonna.

[B]

Yo, life is great for them, man. That has to be a great life. I'm gonna go grow to Brandon. Milan, you two baddies, let's go. Like what? I know pimping when I see pimping man.

[A]

100%. He's like. He's like the. The general manager at the strip club. Like, you know that guy?

[B]

Yeah, I respect it. It's called.

[A]

Oh, it's no hate. And his bars wasn't that bad either. He was kind of rapid.

[B]

It's called Don Juan. Have you ever heard his bars? He's. It's called Pimping, man. That's what it's called.

[A]

So then after the showcase, they were all up in the green room, you know, everyone just reviewing their performances. And Suki goes up to Gretchen, my. My in law, and brings up. I. I was not aware that there was a past of her rapping the N word in her. Her verses.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And then she tried to do it at the showcase. Yeah. And Gretchen, believe it or not, with that name is white. And she was booed off stage because she's just saying the N word in front of a bunch of black people while she's rapping. So Sugi confronts her naturally, like, yo, don't say that shit. Especially don't say that shit in front of me.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And she's like, why the fuck. Like, I could say it like I'm from the hood. Everybody says that. Like, I don't even know why you getting bent out of shape. The people that love me. Allow me to say it this and that. And she said, don't say that shit in front of me. And then Gretchen went, don't call me A.

[B]

Look what she's bad at.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

She took a picture. That's too far.

[A]

I'm mad because you're using the N word in front of me and you are a white woman and I am a black woman. A very fair point. And then aggression says, whoa, don't call me a.

[B]

You're going too far.

[A]

We can't name call here. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

You're going too far with that. You're going way too far with that B word. Don't do that. Don't call me that.

[A]

She didn't even see the irony.

[B]

How could she? Not at all. I gotta watch the season, though. Cause I haven't. I kind of tuned out after the. The Baddies Africa reunion. I haven't really been keeping up with the Baddies. So I got to check back in to see what they doing, man, but.

[A]

And it was funny. The owner, zoo slash, you know, pimp, he gave him like a. A pep talk before the performance. Like, hey, we're not here to fight. This is a professional business.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Nobody fight.

[B]

Yeah, you don't need that. Fight.

[A]

Come on. Two verses in.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, fight.

[A]

They scrap it on stage.

[B]

Come on, man. Shout out to the baddies, though. I did. I gotta watch it. I didn't know they was back in New York, so I gotta see what they doing in the city, man.

[A]

I was hoping for like a Eric Adams cameo or something.

[B]

He was almost. He almost had an episode of Baddies getting off the plane. I saw a woman, and him and a woman had words, and he said something against, like, you know, I'm not the mayor no more. Like, I don't have to take that. Like, he basically. I could snap back if I want to. Like, I'm just a regular civilian now. Like, I don't have to. And, you know, they got into words and he told her to go fuck herself. I like it. We got the former mayor, Eric Adams, telling somebody to go fuck himself. We got the current president flipping the bird. Listen, they're humans, right? They're humans. Sometimes you get into a little emotions and things happen. It's just okay to have a go fuck yourself moment.

[A]

Do we know what prompted this whole conversation?

[B]

You know what this is, Roy? We've gotten on plenty of flights. If I had to guess, his bag was in her overhead. She has a connecting. She's trying to rush past him. Bumped him. You know how that goes.

[A]

Or.

[B]

Or she's just one of those, you know, citizens who just hates what he did and thinks that everything that went wrong in New York City is his fault. And she couldn't wait to see him and have her mom. Yeah, yeah. Come on. You gotta flip the birds.

[A]

Brooklyn. Come out of me.

[B]

Yeah, I like that.

[A]

People been thrown off planes for less. Luckily, they were. Were exiting the plane.

[B]

Yeah, they were just getting off. That was just. Just a regular conversation. I'm willing to bet.

[A]

It's funny that he carries a backpack.

[B]

This was at LaGuardia. I'm willing to bet. I'm willing to Bet this was LaGuardia.

[A]

I mean, I thought he'd be flying private by now. Remember, he had to sully himself and go sit in the middle seat because he got caught.

[B]

Gonna make it too hot? Not yet. Not yet. Don't. He ain't gonna do that yet.

[A]

He took the money.

[B]

Yeah, but that's why we gotta. But they don't know that yet. So just. Just chill. Everybody relax. But in two years, we're gonna check back and see how he's traveling.

[A]

That. That is such a thing. That only really benefits you and yourself. Like, you're not really a social justice warrior when you do things like that. Now, I think it's important for citizens to be able to say whatever to what. Whatever civil servant we are paying at the moment or after. But that's for you. Like, that's for you to go tell your friends you did that. That's not for the cause of whatever you were talking about, though. Eric didn't just go, you know what? I never thought of it that way. You're bringing up a good point while yelling at me getting off a plane.

[B]

Yeah, that's.

[A]

You're just serving yourself with that. Even if you think you're not. That's all you're doing. Even the guy screaming, pedophile to Trump. Pedophile protector. I agree. He is. Put out the files. That guy did. It didn't change anything.

[B]

You got to have your moment, though. You got to be able to go back to the bar.

[A]

It's hilarious.

[B]

I told the President this. You know, he flipped the bird at me. Like, imagine the President flips the bird at you. Like, you a legend.

[A]

That's.

[B]

Yeah, you are a legend. The President flips the bird at you, you're a legend. You're forever legend. That picture of him flipping the bird is on the wall. You're going to tell that story until you die. Like, he was doing that to me. Like. Yeah.

[A]

I just feel like people. And again, I don't even know what this woman said, so I don't want to put it on her. But the people, like the woman on that plane, while I have shitted on Eric Adams constantly, I feel like they feel like they're Jesse Owens at the Olympics flipping off Hitler. Like, you're not. I promise you, the statement you think you're making is not to the degree of that.

[B]

No, not at all. Not at all.

[A]

That's how hard the situation has to be for that to change anything. It has to be the Olympics, Jesse Owens and a middle finger.

[B]

That's real.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So the guy who flipped. Who? Donald Trump. President Trump flipped the bird at, got suspended from his job at Ford, and they started a GoFundMe, and he's now received over 800,000 in donations.

[A]

I mean, that's usually what happens.

[B]

Oh, man, Wait, Till I see Trump.

[A]

Ripping that toupee off the top of his head.

[B]

Wait till I see Trump. What 800,000 for just because he got. He wouldn't make that at Ford in probably six years working there.

[A]

And then you can suspend yourself from your own show. Start a GoFundMe 800K.

[B]

That is crazy.

[A]

All right, I stand corrected. At least he got something out of it.

[B]

I mean, you can. You know how many times somebody's flipped the bird at me? I haven't gotten anything. Nobody set up a GoFundMe even to.

[A]

Ask how I felt.

[B]

Yeah, like what? 800,000 in less than 24. Damn. Yeah, that's just like the lady that. The little. The lady that was working at the Auntie Annie's and she had the little racist Slurpee. Oh, yeah, she got fired. Did you see how GoFundMe how she went crazy? Yeah, her GoFundMe went crazy. She did numbers.

[A]

Oh, well, anytime she did, she did.

[B]

Rocky album pre save numbers like her was crazy.

[A]

Matter of fact, Gretchen should look into this because anytime I see a white woman get fired for saying some racist, they're millionaires by the next day, it's crazy.

[B]

So.

[A]

Yo, Gretchen, you may need to set up your. Your gofundme after the baddies episode.

[B]

But what does that do, though? Like, when people sit back and watch this, what does that do for people? Like, do. You don't think that prompts people to be like, wait, hold up. Just like I just said, like, wait till I see Trump. You don't think that. That that's a real thing. If I see this and I'm like, damn, Trump has a rally here next week. I'm just saying a light bulb may go off in my head.

[A]

Yeah, but you gotta like, you can't repeat the same trick.

[B]

You gotta up it. If he, whatever he said, pedophile protector. You go further than pedophile.

[A]

You gotta like flip his hoodie over his head.

[B]

Well, no, you fuck around, you won't see that. You won't see your gofundme. Like, you can't get physical.

[A]

You wanna get a jansport treatment.

[B]

You can't get physical with the president. You can't do that. But you have to yell something. If he's in your city and you just saw somebody yell that at him and make over 800,000 on a GoFundMe. Like, that will only spark people to want to do shit like that.

[A]

But that's such like a specific and perfect moment. Like imagine you're just on your assembly line and look up like, is that the fucking. Is that the president?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like, how often does that happen?

[B]

And you would have to hope that the president.

[A]

It's just you and him, like, Dolo just yelling. Like, I didn't see.

[B]

You would have to hope that he responds too, though. You can yell whatever you want, but you would have to hope that he responds in that type of way where. So that moment, he caught lightning in a bottle with that. The president flipping the bird. Like, no president has ever done that that I can think about. We've never seen that before. So that was just a moment where it was just like, holy. Like, I said, that guy. I still don't know his name. He's a fucking legend.

[A]

I mean, only Trump could do that, though. Yeah. Could you imagine if Obama flipped somebody off? Oh, yeah, they would have put Mac and you.

[B]

Yeah, that video would have. Right. Put Return of the Mac behind that video. That would have been the coolest shit ever. That would have been the coolest shit ever of Obama. Mama did that.

[A]

He would have been impeached immediately.

[B]

I don't know about that.

[A]

Did you watch Euphoria at all?

[B]

I did. I didn't really keep up with every season, but I watched it.

[A]

Okay. Incredible series that. Similar to Rihanna music. We've been waiting for this for five years. It's finally back, and they got Sydney Sweeney as an only fans model. That's. That's her. Her character arc for this year, which I think is kind of up because they already had, like, a sort of only fans situation with the. With the cat girl. But I don't know. This trailer is throwing me off. I'm not saying that these characters cannot leave high school and life can develop, but this is like a GTA trailer. Like, it's so far off of what the other narratives were from that. Which is fine.

[B]

It's turned into something else.

[A]

Yeah. Which is fine. All of us are in high school at one point and all go out.

[B]

And have some different paths, become adults. Yeah.

[A]

But, yeah, it's like, I didn't know Rue was gonna get this knee deep in the drug game. Like, she's turned into, like, a cartel boss in this.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And, like, all they were doing was, like, you know, a little heroin here and there. But they were using it. They weren't selling it.

[B]

Right.

[A]

So, yeah, this is. It kind of, like, turned into some type of blow situation, which I'm interested to see. But it was really mainly about, like, transgenders, dicks, high schoolers. Now, I. This is just a crazy cartel term. That I didn't see coming. But I mean they smoked in the last two seasons, so I'm here for it.

[B]

Is that Akon? Oh, no, no, no, that's. That's Adebisi. I'm sorry. Like he had the hat on. The way he looked up, it looked like Akon. My bad, my bad. Rory. I'm sorry. My bad.

[A]

It's funny, it was just a shadow, like.

[B]

Yeah, but he looked up. It kind of like a con a little bit.

[A]

Speaking of shows that we have not gotten a while, what's up with. With P Valley, man? It's been a while.

[B]

Yeah. I don't know, man. I don't know. I think we had so shout out to our guy, J Alphonse. I saw him when we were in Broccoli.

[A]

Broccoli City. Yeah, we saw him.

[B]

Was that two years ago now? Yeah, I saw him there and he said that he took his hat off and he had the little murder hair haircutting to die. And I was like. I was so excited. I was like, you back? Like he's really little murderer.

[A]

I thought he was performing. Yeah.

[B]

So he said, yeah, he said, yo, we filming, you know, this, that and the third, like we back on set. But that was like, like I said, that was almost two years ago. So I don't know. I don't know what happened.

[A]

Cause it was the last season was 2022.

[B]

Shannon Thornton, who's on the show, she posted a beautiful picture on Instagram the other day.

[A]

I love her.

[B]

I don't know if that was, you know, on the set of P Valley or not, but yeah, I don't know, man. That show was such a great show. I don't know what happened. Like I said, J. Alphonse told me that they were. They were back filming and shooting, so I don't know what happened with that.

[A]

AI says that season three is filmed and in post production with an expected premiere on stars in late 2025 or early 26.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

So I just feel like they would have announced it by now, so probably mid, maybe summer. Yeah, possibly.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But I mean if it's done, listen, maybe April. I hope they have quicker turnaround with that show because that show is incredible.

[B]

Really good show and like euphoria. I do, I do. I do expect to see up in production storyline changes with P Valley, but definitely a great show. So looking forward to that in 26.

[A]

Yeah, we brought up earlier, but I did want to get more into detail about it. Kai said he's quitting and just doing fashion full time. He's got a sewing machine, he's doing his Kanye. I'm moving to Paris to be an intern phase.

[B]

I don't believe him.

[A]

I don't know if I believe that he's completely quitting forever, but I can respect somebody at the peak of their career realizing that this is not making them happy and they want to quit.

[B]

I can see that. I can see Kai wanting to try different things. And definitely he's created an amazing platform for himself. He's built enough access and opportunity for himself. So I wanted to see him chase his dreams and, you know, have different goals. Love that for him. But when you say quitting streaming, I don't know if he doesn't. And not only that, he was just on. He was just on something the other day and DDG was looking at it and he noticed Kai's backpack, his streamer backpack. And he was like, nah, he got the itch. He's ready to fire up the stream right now. He noticed Kai's backpack and he was like, he still got it with him. So it's kind of like, you know, he says he's quitting. Maybe. I don't know if quitting is the word maybe, you know, just focusing on other things right now. But I gotta stream some of that.

[A]

No, like the fashion stuff, I mean, even the video, it's not on stream.

[B]

But yeah, I mean, to some extent. But again, Kai has done so many things in that space, man, where he's dedicated literally every day, every hour of his life to that. I can definitely understand him wanting to completely just remove himself for that for a while, like, just mentally. I can only imagine how draining that is on him to be sitting in front of a screen in the camera 247 for days at a time, months at a time. Like that shit has a. It takes a toll on you. So, you know, I think he has other passions and things like that that he's afforded himself to do and try. So I think he's gonna do that for a while. But somebody gonna offer Kai a stupid bag for just. Even if it's a one night only stream, like he gonna get a crazy just to do that. So I don't think quitting is the word. I think he's stepping away from it and trying other things, but not at.

[A]

The same clip of every day like it was before.

[B]

Streamers are like, rappers, you can't quit rapping.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You can't quit rappers. The rappers can't retire. You can't quit.

[A]

Yeah. I mean, again, I give him credit for Being that young and that self aware of at your peak, that's a tough decision. But if you, you know, this shit is not making me happy. I want to do other things. Yeah, I applaud that.

[B]

Take a break.

[A]

Super mature of him sometimes.

[B]

Take some years off, you know, do that. Do other things. Acting or whatever, do all of that. But quitting, I don't know if he's. He's done. I don't know if quitting is the word. I highly doubt Kai's done with that. But again, I love the fact that he's taking time off and. And trying other.

[A]

I did see a security guard quit his job while he was on his post at the Rod Wave concert just so he could, you know, get his bars off.

[B]

A security guard quit his job.

[A]

His manager said, yo, you can't do this. You're working. And he said, well, I quit it. Just so we get this look and can we get some volume? He had the tune.

[B]

That's.

[A]

That's where I think he should have. I'm sure he sounds a little different in the studio. He's doing his game.

[B]

About to quit, bro. I was going to quit anyway, bro. That's the only reason I came here.

[A]

For real.

[B]

Rap the raw in, bro.

[A]

That's the only reason.

[B]

I can't.

[A]

I respect it. He just quit right here. Ain't no way bro just quit his.

[B]

Job like that, bro.

[A]

He just quit his job. I'm real.

[B]

That was a terrible idea, bro. I respect it. That was a terrible idea. I'm gonna be real. That was a terrible idea.

[A]

Literally the phrase, don't quit your day job. I mean, listen, I. I respect it. And this did go kind of viral, so, like, he did get a valuable moment for his career if he. He stays consistent. I just think maybe he sounds a little bit better with some tune. I don't know. There's certain artists that, like, backstage, you get your bars off. Like when Meek was coming up. Yeah. Meek. If Ross walked by, I'm a rap for him. And that'll translate. The way these kids sing with all the effects. I don't know if you could just be backstage.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Trying to get your shit off.

[B]

Yeah. I don't know how. I don't know how.

[A]

Rod, he needs an autotune, like, personal pack.

[B]

Listen, Rod is incredible talent. I don't know if Rod sounds this much better than this kid standing here.

[A]

I agree. I'm saying in the studio, he may. He may sound good. Yeah.

[B]

What's his gofundme at, Josh? Let's Get a go. Let's get a GoFundMe for this gentleman that quit his security job at the Raw Wave show. Let's get him up to 800k.

[A]

And I love that he had a Burberry shirt on under his. He planned this entire thing. Those are the type of security guards you need to shows because he'll. He'll let you get away with anything.

[B]

Yeah, but those type of. You know, they just hire a lot of those guys for the day.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

Like a agency or something like that. Like. But that, you know, that's not gonna hurt that kid. But yeah, we should get a. That's the type of. We need a GoFundMe for him.

[A]

I want to hear, like, let's support his dream.

[B]

Let's support his dream of being an artist.

[A]

Were you. I'm not trying to make a joke. Were you backstage when that security guard wrapped with Jay Z and DMX in that cipher?

[B]

No.

[A]

Can you click that? This. This was on the. The backstage dvd, I think. Give us some volume. We should.

[B]

Yeah, No, I wasn't. I wasn't. I wasn't.

[A]

Because you gotta imagine just being a security gu. You know, maybe walking in the bathroom and seeing a cipher with Jay Z and dmx.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. I mean, he's right there. Jay and X always had ciphers. No matter wherever they was at, they.

[A]

Was always in the right people. Like, just didn't even have to be for any purpose.

[B]

Yeah, that's all you got to do. Just. Let's get some balls. Somebody got a beat. We on tour. Like, let's. Let's see who writing. Let's just. We're keeping a pinch up.

[A]

Remember Terry Glenn Jersey? Yeah. So X goes. And then. Then the security guard doesn't. Just starts rapping.

[B]

That's not secure. That's J Elect right there. That's J elect. This is early J Elect.

[A]

I assume they were using the Nation of Islam for security. Yes. Imagine if that was.

[B]

Holding outside opposition. Got stress on my mind, but I got inside opposition coming from my own God in the. We walking peace, but don't provoke.

[A]

But then you got to think, like, for the rest of the tour, how annoying that may be. Yo, host, what's up? I got a deal.

[B]

I forgot how. I forgot how that security guard got off on that, though.

[A]

Hell, he went nuts.

[B]

Yeah, he was spitting.

[A]

And then there was also something in the backstage.

[B]

Did we ever find out who that was? Like, what's his name?

[A]

No, no, I do. But even in the backstage dvd, X and Jay weren't There. But there was some waiter, like concert staff or whatever with the cameras were at a restaurant and some waiter was like, oh, you guys went backstage and just started rapping and like, smoked the. He looked like he was about to quit his. His waiter job right there.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So I respect those. Those. That's a classic.

[B]

That's a classic. Classic clip right there.

[A]

I mean, Cole talks about that when. When he found out where hov was going to be and wait. Loud. So I think it was baseline waited outside trying to hand him a cd. But I mean, those. Those stories are. Are kind of crazy. You guys have Don to Oliver on here. I remember when Don to Oliver has on camera just handing us a CD in like 2014.

[B]

It's crazy.

[A]

And had no. Had no idea who that was. Like, he ended up posting it way later. Like.

[B]

Like.

[A]

Yeah. It's just interesting that those situations, the people that do come out of them.

[B]

It's crazy that we have a. Because I didn't even see this on the list today. But I was thinking earlier, because I was listening to Don Tolle on my way down to the studio today, and I was wondering who's the better? Because I am trying to the same way I. You know, I'm glad that somebody sent me a playlist for NBA Youngboy so I can get into his music and understand the. The phenom behind it. Like, we see all these people supporting this artist, and I'm like, God damn, I'm out the loop. I never really listened to him. Obviously, I'm on the same side with the Rod Wave thing. I understand he's incredible artist. He sells out all of his shows and he has a cult following. I just can't really understand the music and get into it. So I'm on that now with Rod Wave. I want people to send me, like, send me some of Rod's best shit. The shit you think that if the first time I ever really listened to him, this is what I should be listening to. And I was thinking, because I'm listening to Rod, I'm like, okay. Like, yeah, definitely talented and heavy on the melodies. You know, things like that sounds good. And I was thinking to myself, who's the better artist between Rod Wave and Don Toliver? Cause we saw Don Toliver at Roots. No. Was it. No, no, it was Made in America.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And he went on right before Bad Bunny. So you can imagine how many people were already there for Bad Bunny trying.

[A]

To get a spot.

[B]

I'm talking about. Victoria Monat was probably the first performer that Day out there, and it was a bunch of people out there ready to see her perform. So by this time, late at night, Bad Bunny's goes on. In another 40 minutes, the park is packed. And I'm sitting there and I'm looking at Don Toliver's set, and I'm like, damn. Like, Don is performing joint after joint. Like, he's really performing dope records. Like, his set was incredible. The stage production, everything, like, was incred. Incredible. And I'm listening to Rod's music, heavy on the melodies. And I'm listening to Don's music, same thing. Heavy on the melodies, things like that. And I'm like, damn. Like, I like Rod, I like the melodies, but I really like Don Toliver's music. I think Don Toliver has incredible discography. I don't think he's put out a bad album. I don't think he gets the praise that he deserves. I don't know what his shows do. I don't know. I've never really paid attention to what his shows do. But seeing him, remember seeing him at Made in America going on right before one of the biggest artists in the world and what he was able to do on that stage.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Who is the better artist between Rod Wave and Don Toliver?

[A]

My preference falls on Don Toliver. Rod Wave is one. Like. I get it. I understand why he's so popular. It's not all the way for me. I think he's a very talented writer. I think comes up great melodies. It's just like. Like it. You only sound insulting when you. When you do this type of. It's more teenage sadness to me. If I was younger, I feel like I'd probably really, really, really love Rod Wave.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

But it's. It's. He's great at writing. It's just the content, I think, connects with a younger audience where Don to is more my age.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

So I think Don Tolliver is a better artist. I think he has more range with his writing and his production.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

So I. Me, personally, but if someone said Rod Wave, like, I'm. That's just a personal preference. I don't. I don't think it's a bad debate if somebody's just like, yeah, it's clearly Rod Wave.

[B]

Does Rod Wave do. Does. What? Does Rod Wave do more numbers at his shows than Don Toliver?

[A]

Don't quote me. I want to say they do about the same, because I know Rod Wave does arenas by himself. But just pulling up Don Toliver's 2024 show, fourth tour. Most of these are all arenas like Barclays. I think Rod Wave did a couple nights at Barclays, though Don Tolliver did one here. But I mean, they, they both do arenas. Yeah. So, you know, it's, it's still relatively close.

[B]

I think Don Tolliver is, is underrated.

[A]

I'm with you.

[B]

I do. I'm listening to his albums. Like he makes really good albums, really good songs.

[A]

He's taking the Travis Travis blueprint and, and heightened it as far as writing and artistry, in my opinion. Yeah, for sure. So today's show is brought to you by our presenting sponsor, Hard Rock bet, which is also the official sports book partner of the Miami Heat and the Orlando Magic. Because everything is just easier in Florida.

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[A]

Show me the way. What you Rolling Loud Orlando lineup, I.

[B]

Believe is what's up. We going.

[A]

It's Don Toliver. Yeah. Don Toliver is headline Rolando O Town.

[B]

Is that what they call Orlando? Ohtown.

[A]

We spent my 29th birthday in old Town together. Did you come out with Wheezy and all of us? We had a. We had a live show on my birthday in Orlando.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

And then we all went out to the.

[B]

What was that big street?

[A]

That was like Bourbon street of Orlando. No, it looks like you were in Orleans.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Was with us that night.

[A]

And shout out to. To Weezy from Horrible Decisions. He's from Orlando and happen to be out there. So she's like, I'm taking you out. We have fun. It's. It's like New Orleans.

[B]

Like, it was cool. We had a good time. That.

[A]

That. And I feel like that's probably a good city for a Rolling Loud. Like, they have the infrastructure. Like, I. I feel like that's actually a really good pick for a city.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

To do something like this. But headliners are Don Tolliver, Playboi Cardi, and NBA Youngboy.

[B]

Oh, wait, wait. So, okay, are we going to NBA Youngboy night? Are we going John Tolliver night?

[A]

I think we just gonna. Friday.

[B]

Those are just.

[A]

Stop it. Friday.

[B]

Shout out to NBA Young Boy, though.

[A]

Yeah. And I'm sure the Playboy Cardi, even though his music is not for me, I'm sure I would love his live show. Like, even that last album. I Am Music. I thought the production was incredible. I just. I didn't even know if he was on it.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I thought it was a beat tape. I'm sure that would be great live, though.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So, yeah, I would see. And I do want to see Young Boy, you know, from the safe safety of like a. Yeah, like, let's maybe.

[B]

A box up there somewhere. Let's. Let's go up there.

[A]

Yeah. But no, it's this cool. Because this is the only US one they're doing this year, Right.

[B]

I'm not sure.

[A]

Yeah, I think that's. This is the only one. So. Which is crazy.

[B]

Don Toler night Belly Gang is performing at night.

[A]

Oh, here we go.

[B]

All right.

[A]

Now we have our way in.

[B]

Yeah. Chief Keef Saha, baby. Okay.

[A]

We were almost late for our own performance. Trying to watch Chief Keef.

[B]

Yeah. Playboy, Cardi. It's a good. It's a good lineup. A lot of energy. I know that it's gonna be. Yeah, it's a lot of energy out there that night. Jesus.

[A]

And with Florida laws, anything goes. It's gonna be.

[B]

Like I said, we should just be.

[A]

A mad house, spit up something open Carry State.

[B]

Yeah. Like just somewhere up there. I don't. No matter where, as long as it's up there, I'll sit there.

[A]

Yeah. NBA youngboy in Florida is kind of nuts.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

All right, well, we can get away from music. We can get back to sports, back to our segment of Spread Them, sponsored by Hard Rock bet.

[B]

It's time to spread them, Roy.

[A]

It was time to spread them.

[B]

Listen, man, we both went 3:1 last week.

[A]

Yes. We both went 3:1. Picked different games, but both ended up at 3 and 1, which I'm. That's not a bad weekend for me.

[B]

It's a great week, man.

[A]

I think I could go 40 this week, though.

[B]

All right, well, let's see.

[A]

I think I could spread to four.

[B]

Okay. Okay.

[A]

Spread.

[B]

You gonna spread the floor?

[A]

Okay, spread for all four.

[B]

I thought you said you're gonna spread the floor. I said I don't know if you want to do that, but.

[A]

Okay. We can start with the Bills minus one at the Broncos mall. Who are you taking?

[B]

I'm gonna take the Bills in this one.

[A]

Minus one.

[B]

I think that the Bills. I think the Bills are gonna go. We talked about it. This might be Josh Allen's year to probably get all the way to the Bowl.

[A]

Yeah. I feel like all the years he was supposed to go, he didn't go, and this year he's not. So. Yeah. All right. We. We may out the gate just on this one. I think we may agree because I'm taking Bills minus one as well.

[B]

I think.

[A]

I think they're beating the Broncos by More. They're 1 49ers at the Seahawks. The Seahawks are minus 7. That's. That's disrespectful.

[B]

I'm taking the Niners. I'm taking the Niners in this one.

[A]

I don't know, man.

[B]

Taking the Niners.

[A]

I think the Seahawks may win by 10.

[B]

What? That's disrespectful. I think that's disrespectful. No way. I'm taking the 49ers.

[A]

I'm going Seahawks minus.

[B]

I got the 49ers by 10, man. How about that?

[A]

Really?

[B]

Hell, yeah. Okay. Got the 49ers.

[A]

You are that confident in the 49ers.

[B]

Absolutely.

[A]

All right. I'll take the Seahawks minus seven. We have the Texans at the Patriots. Patriots minus three.

[B]

I'm going Patriots.

[A]

Yeah. I'm going.

[B]

I'm Drake May, baby. All the way, May. All the way May. I know I said the Patriots didn't have a shot of getting there at the beginning of the year. I didn't. I didn't. Nobody anticipated Drake May was going to play like this. We didn't expect him. We didn't expect him to look like that. Shout out. Stepan Diggs been balling. Listen, man. Man, I got the Patriots. I'm taking the Patriots in this one.

[A]

Yeah. I'm going Patriots minus three. I think they win. Win by a touchdown.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Rams -4 at the Bears.

[B]

O. Now this one's tricky. Rams minus four. I don't know, man.

[A]

I think it's. It's the Bears year.

[B]

I think the Bears might win by three.

[A]

I'm going with the Bears.

[B]

You going to Bears? All right, if you going Bears. And I'll take. I'll take. I'll take the Rams. Rams. If you're gonna take the Bears, I'll take the Rams.

[A]

So we. We had suggested that loser has some type of punishment that we would do on live stream. Peach came up with a very funny idea that you have to punishment is you have to name a thousand rappers before you can get off stream.

[B]

I cannot name a thousand rappers. I will be on this stream longer than Kaiser. Not. I cannot name a thousand rappers. There's no.

[A]

You can't have your itunes. You can't have anything. I don't know, man. I. I can.

[B]

I can I phone a friend to run off like 100 names?

[A]

Like, you have to earn.

[B]

How do I earn? I have to name at least, what, 200. Oh, man. Naming a thousand rappers is not easy. I don't give a. With none of y'.

[A]

All. But what are the rules? Like, can I name my mans and them in high school?

[B]

Nah, you have to. Okay, all right. They have to have at least a mixtape that they put out.

[A]

Okay, My friend put out a mixtape. Nobody heard it.

[B]

It was the block. It went platinum in the hood, right?

[A]

No, it still flopped in the hood, but it existed.

[B]

Naming a thousand rappers. I'm down to try. I'm down to try.

[A]

I think I could knock out 500 pretty easy.

[B]

All right, so we. All right, so a thousand. Name a thousand. So we have to. We have to live stream it. Live stream.

[A]

Well, yeah. Loser has to get on live stream and name a thousand rappers before they get off. Because at some point I'm gonna need a break and then we're just gonna have to talk and stream.

[B]

Yeah. Because you can't just sit straight and just start running over. Now. You could. You can go on a nice run. You can. You could probably run off 100, 150 easily.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But when you start getting like the 250 range and then you realize I got 7, 800 left to name, that's when it's gonna get tough.

[A]

I think Josh asked Chad GBT yesterday and they. They could only come up with 800 and that was chat gbt.

[B]

This is what I'm saying, bro. Naming a thousand rappers is hard, but like you said, if you naming like local guys.

[A]

Yeah. I immediately asked if Benzino was on the list and Chat GBT didn't have them.

[B]

Okay. So then there's. So then there's some names that we can run off the chat.

[A]

Chat.

[B]

But that's tough. I'm willing to try though. I'll try it on live. Live stream.

[A]

Well, you may not have to. It depends on. On who loses our spread them.

[B]

But how. How wide do you have to sp. How. Wow.

[A]

A thousand rappers double wide. Oh yes. That was our spread them segment sponsored by Hard Rock Bet on. I have two disagreements on that one. So we. We shall see if. If somebody actually my picks Josh, because I ain't three and one right now.

[B]

I ain't trying to name a thousand rappers. I'm gonna let you know that now. Keep track of my.

[A]

I. I'm gonna get a babysitter that night. That's gonna. That's a. That's a commitment.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah. Peach.

[A]

You're. You lose either way. You have to be here.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Thousand rap or unless you just tell me to hit spacebar when I'm done.

[B]

I mean, I guess you can just order food and you know, make a night of it. Just, you know, just sit here until we get as close to a thousand.

[A]

And no helping.

[B]

No, no, no help.

[A]

But I mean, shit, if I know I'm losing, I'm going to try to like memorize my itunes on. On the car ride over.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I'm going through everything. What do you think is a better strategy? Starting with like going through the A's or just rattling off every rapper that you know.

[B]

I think trying it in alphabetical order. Region.

[A]

Region might be a. A cool way.

[B]

Yeah. But once I get outside of the four major cities, I'm. England. Okay. Yeah, good. Next one. UK Rappers, I guess.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. Okay.

[A]

Yeah. Regions would be a Good. Good way to help. And then see where you're at after you get through.

[B]

Yeah, because what if you go. If you start crossing that Atlantic too early, it's like, bro, you still got mad rappers over here that you.

[A]

I think the. The best part of that is going to be once we get past 500 and people just start throwing out names where we have to double check if that's really a rapper or not. Like, you just made that up. That's not a rapper, but there's like a hundred lils. Yeah, for sure. Oh, and wait till I get to my Chicano rap bag. I know all those.

[B]

Oh, man, I don't. Yeah.

[A]

What you about, Mr. Capone? Nothing.

[B]

Nothing. Yeah, once I get what you about?

[A]

South Park Mexican.

[B]

Once I get to the Jays and I go to Jojo Pellegrino's, like, that's when, you know, like, I'm just like, damn, I'm down to Jojo already. Like, Jen. Yes, you can dig. Definitely.

[A]

Nah, Jin is higher up than we and Jojo Pellegrino. If we're doing regions and you start thinking Staten Island. Yeah, Jojo's coming up.

[B]

Yeah. After. After the woo.

[A]

After all 12.

[B]

After Wu Tang, it gotta be Jojo.

[A]

I feel you could just start saying 5% of words and get at least 10 other Wu Tang members.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like, that no one will question.

[B]

I'm not gonna lie. I think I may be downplaying it. Like, I might be overselling how tough it is. It might be easier than I think. I think it might be easier than I think, especially if you go regions. So. Yeah, let's try it. Let's try. Loser asked to name a thousand rappers on live stream. We'll make a night of it. We'll get you some mozzarella sticks, Rory. Whatever.

[A]

We'll get those for Baby D. Yeah, yeah. What's harder, 30 mozzarella sticks or thousand rappers?

[B]

You gotta eat 30 mozzarella sticks to get a hint. Imagine, say, Brooklyn. Like, Brooklyn. He's from Brooklyn.

[A]

Imagine eating 30 mozzarella sticks while trying to name a thousand rappers. Your stomach just bubbling.

[B]

You just trying to think, oh, yeah.

[A]

Man, wait till I pull out Atmosphere.

[B]

Oh, my Atmosphere.

[A]

My itunes is so far back. I was telling them, I think you might have left at that point. You remember the MTV show, like, make Me Something else? What was the name of it? Maze. Where they just, like, take somebody and, like, some nerd and make them something else. The rapper that. That did that one kid, I have songs from Atlas from Arizona on here. That's how deep I could get in my thousand bag.

[B]

Okay, but you can't use that. We can't look at no list.

[A]

No, of course not.

[B]

No nothing. Name a thousand rappers on live stream. The loser. Thank you. Hard Rock bet.

[A]

Okay, if I name Eminem and Royce, can I also name bad meets evil?

[B]

No.

[A]

Damn.

[B]

That's a group. We can't do that.

[A]

All right, well, then I'm not naming any groups.

[B]

We ain't even start yet naming members already.

[A]

Look, listen, I'm asking the rules, man.

[B]

The rules. Rappers, not rap groups. Rappers.

[A]

When I pull out Baby Bash, I just don't want to hear anything from anyone.

[B]

Is a rapper.

[A]

When Little Troy comes out, I don't want to hear a listen, do your thing. But yeah, shout out to. To Hard Rock BET and our. Our spread them segment. Before we get to voicemails, I do want to send some prayers and strength to our brother Corrupt. I'm going through some health issues. Haven't got an update in. In a day or two. But. But I know Daz was saying, you know, keep sending prayers for him.

[B]

Absolutely. And also, rest in peace John Forte, the legend. Legendary John Forte. That was such. That was so. Just reading. That was just like, wow.

[A]

I'm extremely, extremely close with his nephew Kyrie since we were kids. Kids. My first ever stunt on anyone was John Forte called my house phone like that. He was like the first famous person that, like, was even in my. My proximity of life was John Porte. So it's really, really sad news. And ironically, I was on the phone with Kyrie when I saw it, and yeah, it was definitely devastating news for his family. But John Forte, legend in his own right, you know, so. So condolences.

[B]

Also. Rest in Peace actor T.K. carter, New York legend. We lost him this week as well. Want to send prayers, condolences to his family and some of my favorite movies growing up. Up. So it was to read that TK card that passed away was it hit part of my childhood was definitely some of my favorite movies growing up, some of my favorite shows. So rest in peace to T.K. carter, the legend.

[A]

Absolutely. Josh, do we have voicemails?

[B]

You've got mail.

[A]

These are sponsored by Boost.

[B]

What's good, Rory and Ma, this is James from Staten Island, Jojo Pellegrino. And I got a music question for y'. All. So I'm currently debating with my brother about who I'm winning the verses. Trey Songz and Neo. Now for Neo, he can only play just his songs. He can't play none of the shit that he wrote. I'm on the side that Trey will win. I think Trey's catalog is super underrated, but I just want to get y' all opinion on it. Peace.

[A]

So versus Neo against Trey Songz.

[B]

I'm taking Neil.

[A]

I'm taking Neil as well. Yeah, I hear him on that. There's a lot of, like, mixtape Trey that I think people overlook, but I don't think it's close.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

In my own words to Year of a Gentleman, like, what are you doing with both those albums? Yeah, there's like, seven hits on. On each of those.

[B]

I get what he's saying, though. But, yeah, for me, a Neo Trey songs version. Definitely Neo.

[A]

Yeah. I mean, then again, I don't know. Trade A has Joints ready, which is probably what Trey's biggest album usa his most hit records. Ready Alone is tough. Tough to deal with, but you're also dealing with Neo.

[B]

Yeah. And then he said, like, only his songs, not the ones he wrote. Okay. Yeah, still, Neo still got a battle.

[A]

Even, like, you know, hooks with both of them would be great, but Neo still, too on the hook side, is tough to beat. Let's pull up Neo's Apple Essentials. You pull up Trey Songz. The Apple Essentials are always kind of like a bad way to look at shit. But it's closer than I think. I mean, out the gate, Neo is my first thought, and I still think Neo wins. But, yeah, it's tough.

[B]

No, I get what he. That's what I said. I understood what he was saying. Trade definitely has a catalog that you probably would overlook when you think versus Neo. You know what I mean? But again, I think that more people would react to Neo songs in the Neo set.

[A]

Oh, Can't Be Friends. Trey Song is a incredible record. I think with Trey, though, it's like he. He owned him. Like, a moment where Neo's music is. Is. I don't want to say Trey's music isn't timeless in its own right, but Neo's music is timeless. Like, Trey owned that 09 to 12 era. Like, dude, I know it's inside. Part two is crazy. Not. It's a tough battle. I actually kind of, like, don't fully know the more I'm looking.

[B]

See, but that's not. I need. All right. I need to look at Neo's catalog the same way I'm looking at triggers. I'm not gonna lie. Scrolling all them Trey songs records, I'm like, damn. Like, okay, okay.

[A]

So sick. Ms. Independent. What if because of you Sexy love Closer, Let me love you mad beautiful monster. Time of our lives. Hate that. I love you with Rihanna. Go on girl single. Do you.

[B]

Oh man.

[A]

I just think part of the list.

[B]

I just think it's.

[A]

She got her own.

[B]

Yeah. It's just. It's levels man. It's just. It's just the level of the song. Trey song's list though is he got some in it's joints that I'm. I'm reading right here that I haven't listened to in so long. I'm like that was that. But like running off those Neo songs, I'm just like okay, I get it now. It's just. It's just a different level of songwriting and music.

[A]

I mean I could. I could be factoring in the nostalgia of where I was and what was happening in my life with Neo Year.

[B]

Of the Gentleman personally.

[A]

But do is Year of the Gentleman. Can we comfortably say it came out in 08, it's now 2026. Can we say that's a classic album?

[B]

Definitely. Look at Josh. Josh. Josh said 1,000% 1,000 cuz it.

[A]

Yeah. Of course it was big when it came out and Ms. Independent was like the biggest record. But I still. Even when it came out didn't feel like people were giving it the credit. I'll just read off the track list and tell me if there's a skip here closer. Nobody single mad Miss Independent. Why does she stay? Fade into the background. Still shed tears over that one. So you can cry. Great transition from that song. They sequenced this perfectly. Part of the list back to what? You know. Lie to me, Stop this world. This could beat a lot of your favorite R B albums though.

[B]

Yeah. That fade into the background, that was my Right.

[A]

Right into. So you can cry.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I don't know. It's just. It'll be dope though. It'll be. That'll be a good listen. Like to just see that, you know, put those two, you know, catalogs against each other. But like.

[A]

Like for a Patreon segment maybe I. I'll think on it. I want to put year the gentleman up against a lot of RB albums that are deemed classic. And I. I think I could prove that it's better. If you're looking in 21st century. This should be way higher than it's.

[B]

I got. I got an idea. Peace. Follow me. We got some guests coming for Patreon today joining us. I think this may be a good.

[A]

Are they well versed enough in.

[B]

I would. I would say so.

[A]

So okay.

[B]

You will be surprised. I'm just Saying you be surprised.

[A]

Okay, I. I also want to put this out here. Trey song's ready. Panty Dropper intro. Neighbors know my name I invented sex I need a girl One love. Does he do it? Say ah. Lol. Smiley face. Underrated, dog.

[B]

Nah, see, that one kind of lost me. He lost me with that.

[A]

That's. That's his Kanye workout plan.

[B]

Yeah, I was in the mix of all of that. All that other was so dope. It was like. That one was a little.

[A]

It was like, ready to make love. Crazy Jupiter love. Be where you are. Successful with Drake. I forgot he snuck that on there. Black roses, Love Lost. This one just has more fat on it than. You're the gentleman but your side of the bed.

[B]

Fade into the background, though. That was my. I burnt that song down when that album dropped Rock.

[A]

And then what's the other? Passion, Pain and Pleasure. That's the other Trey album. That's crazy. Love Faces, Bottoms Up, Pain, Can't Be Friends, Please.

[B]

I didn't like Bottoms Up. I never liked Bottoms up as, like.

[A]

Just a outside record.

[B]

I just never liked it.

[A]

That was when. That's when Nikki. When Nikki was on her. Her feature run.

[B]

Y' all getting what I'm saying?

[A]

Nikki couldn't miss a feature at that time.

[B]

I know what it did. Did. I know what it did outside and in the club. I'm very aware. Me, personally, I just never really was, like, into that record.

[A]

Was it all in one year that we got Nikki's verse on Bottoms Up? Dirty Money. Hello, Good morning, Monster. And then what was the Usher record? Didn't she have an Usher feature? She. Her. Like we talk about that wayne feature on 07. Nikki in 2010 was nuts.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like, she overtook every song. It was no longer their song.

[B]

Was that coming off of monsters?

[A]

Monster was 2010.

[B]

Yeah. So that.

[A]

That was like the intro. Yeah.

[B]

That set it off. Every. Everybody wanted to, like, recreate that moment. Like, I need. I need that Nikki.

[A]

But she went nuts on Bottoms, though.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And hello, Good morning. She went crazy because. Yeah. That was 2010 or 2011.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You know, her feature run in 2010 was.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Was nuts.

[B]

It'll be interesting.

[A]

That's a good. Good question. What was his name? I'm sorry, James. James. That was a really good question. And you made me think. Because out the gate. I did want to say neo confidently, but. Yeah, that's one of those. It depends how. How you sequence it, how you perform it. Like, that's going to.

[B]

How you play your hand. How you play your hand.

[A]

Definitely but that did remind me that Year of the Gentleman deserves more flowers.

[B]

Absolutely.

[A]

People don't even put that as Neo's best album.

[B]

I don't think some people do.

[A]

Yeah, his first album is what people.

[B]

Usually say Neo shout out to Neo, too. He's on Broadway with Alicia Keys, I think. I think it's Alicia Keys, right?

[A]

Well, she has the Hell's Kitchen one, but I don't think he's.

[B]

Yeah, Neo's in that.

[A]

Oh, what the fuck? I should have saw it when Neo was on the cast.

[B]

Yeah, Neo.

[A]

Which role is he playing?

[B]

I'm not sure, but I do. I am gonna check it out, though.

[A]

Oh. I mean, I've seen it already, but I'll definitely go again if you. If Neo's in the cast. Yeah, no, it's a great Hell's Kitchen, the play. It's really good about the building that Timothy Chalamet, Alicia Keys, and a bunch of other people are. Are from.

[B]

Is Timothy in it? Is he gonna make a. You think it makes an appearance in it?

[A]

I know he went to the private screening that they gave to Manhattan Plaza residents. Kia had went to that one as well. Alicia formerly invited all the people she used to, like, babysit it from the building to go see it. So, I mean, I think he's busy, but I know he supported it. Yeah, already. But I'm. Check it out.

[B]

Really cool.

[A]

It's. You know, they took some creative liberties in it, though. They try to make that building seem like the projects. I'm like, this is beautiful. I was like, all right, I get it. You gotta make. You have to make the story a little bit better.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Nah, this ain't section eight. Yeah, do we have another voicemail? Hey, y', all, it's Kay from Atlanta.

[B]

Who loves y', all, just not like that. Just calling in to Rich Damaris.

[A]

A speedy recovery.

[B]

I miss hearing you on the pod, making fun of Rory and eating Mal up whenever you get a chance. So wishing you all the best.

[A]

Prayers, hugs, and head your heart desires.

[B]

When you're back on your feet, girl.

[A]

Okay. Miss you. And, yeah, I love y', all, just not like that.

[B]

Well, we love you, too, just not like that.

[A]

I don't even think we needed that last part of, like.

[B]

Like, thank you.

[A]

We didn't think you were confessing your love to both of us.

[B]

Yes, we appreciate that. And yes. Get well, Baby D. We'll see you soon.

[A]

Yeah. As of now. Don't. Don't quote me. She should be back for our Tuesday episode. This should be the last if she's.

[B]

Not twerking too much to the J. Cole record.

[A]

So twerking to that record after you.

[B]

Had emergency, you know, baby, baby, she.

[A]

Gonna pop the stitches.

[B]

She gonna find a way to twerk to something. You know, they twerk to whatever they want to twerk to. It don't even matter if that's the baseline or not. Not. They going to twerk. You know that.

[A]

The slow. Twerk to them.

[B]

Yeah, absolutely.

[A]

In reverse, too.

[B]

In reverse. In reverse. Well, it's been fun. Great week. Another week in the can. 2026. Off to a great start.

[A]

Yes, sir.

[B]

We'll talk to y' all soon. Be safe, be blessed. I'm that. He's just Ginger. Peace.

[A]

This is an Iheart podcast.

[B]

Guaranteed human.