Episode 445 | Send Help

Summary

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New Rory & Mal — Episode 445 | Send Help

Date: January 22, 2026
Hosts: Rory Farrell & Mal
Podcast: iHeartPodcasts and The Volume

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Episode Overview

In this free-flowing, comedic, and reflective episode, Rory & Mal catch up after a surprise guest cancelation, shifting into their trademark style of shooting the breeze. The conversation covers a broad range: the value of curated parties, the challenges and nostalgia of event management, the realities of adult friendships, dreams of rural retirement, and a playful deep dive into deserted-island hypotheticals and ideal musical joint-album pairings. As always, the tone is candid, humorous, and full of memorable banter.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Rolling Start: Guest Cancelation & Catching Up

[02:52–03:15]

• The episode starts with a guest cancelation, giving Rory & Mal an opportunity to "shoot the shit."
  • Rory: "Let's get to know each other. Welcome back. Middle of the week."
  • Mal: "I love shooting shit."
• Discussion about loving the middle of the week — Wednesdays feel like "halfway there" on a trip.

2. The Art and Science of Napping as an Adult

[03:55–04:59]

• Mal celebrates napping for the first time in two years due to an unexpectedly free afternoon.
  • Mal describes the feeling: "I'm talking about one of those naps where you get like over like two hours...felt...incredible."
• Rory, as a parent, talks about fitting in naps wherever he can.
• Transition into a discussion about the impact of children on sleep schedules.

3. Adult Social Lives: Comedy Shows, Solo Dates, and Parties

[05:24–08:23]

• Rory recounts going alone to Neil Brennan's "New Material Night," emphasizing the humor (and humility) of being listed as "plus zero."
  • Rory: "She goes, name please...Rory Farrell, plus zero."
  • Mal: "Let everybody know you have no friends."
• Both agree that solo outings, especially to comedy shows, are underappreciated ways to enjoy one's own company.
• Commentary on the authenticity and creative process at "New Material Night" for comics.

4. Curated Experiences & the Evolving NYC Nightlife

[09:20–15:36]

• Both hosts praise invite-only and highly curated parties (e.g., 705 Series, karaoke nights, sample parties), contrasting them with generic club experiences.
  • Mal: "What is it about these curated...invite only events? You get there and there's people where you're like, how did you get in here?"
• Rory claims credit for the "Palooza" blueprint: exclusive, intentional guest lists for better energy.
• The nostalgia for Palooza events: camaraderie, travel, and memory-making.
  • Rory: "I miss it every day...the camaraderie of doing that with your friends, going from city to city is an experience like no other."

5. Why They Don’t Manage Artists (But Sometimes Still Do)

[15:36–21:46]

• Both reflect on why they've stepped away from artist management, citing the all-consuming, “babysitting” nature of the job.
  • Rory: "Management needs to be all in. You can't half ass management…you're managing their livelihood, their dream."
  • Mal: "It consumes you, every thought, every day…there are artists whose lives you’re responsible for."
• Rory humorously acknowledges hypocrisy—he would manage Jay Electronica but only as a friend and under very chill terms.

6. Retirement Fantasies: Beaches, Farms, & Escaping NYC

[21:46–26:18]

• Both discuss ideal retirement scenarios—beach life, rural/farm living, escaping NYC’s grind for tranquility.
  • Mal wants: "To be on the beach, unaliving, just living life out every day...or on a farm."
  • Rory: Expresses surprise at his own shifting mentality, having once vowed never to leave the city but now eager to go.

7. The Value (and Limits) of New York Living

[25:15–26:22]

• Both reflect on how life experience and travel broaden one’s mindset about leaving New York and even the U.S.
  • Mal: "If you don’t leave your city, you really don’t know life outside of where you’re from."
  • Rory: "I would never trade anything for my twenties in New York City…Now, going into my 40s…listen, I might open a beach bar in Key West."

8. Dreaming Up New Ways to Socialize: Adult Sleepaway Camp & Glamping

[29:02–35:12]

• Mal pitches his dream: an "adult sleepaway camp" with bonfires, music, and no nightclub tab or kids.
• Rory shares stories of glamping in the Catskills, including his dog's hilarious, not-so-outdoorsy misadventures.
  • Rory: "Some of the toughest people in NYC...let’s take them to the glamping and see how tough they are out there."
• They toy with the idea of a camp reality show, “Felons in the Forest,” blending their signature mix of jokes and sincerity.

9. Wilderness, Survival, and the “Deserted Island” Conversation

[43:26–49:56]

• Inspired by a new Rachel McAdams movie, they explore the classic trope of airplane crashes, deserted islands, and whether horniness (or relationships) would emerge in survival scenarios.
  • Rory, always the instigator: "Do you think you'd ever beat off if you were on a desert island?"
  • Mal: "No way...if we're having to survive, we don't have any food, drinking water…nah."
  • But they both agree trauma can spark human closeness, even humorously referencing "trauma makes you horny."

10. Matt Damon vs. Ben Affleck: The Ultimate Actor Debate

[51:32–59:20]

• Lively, pop-culture-packed debate about who has the better acting chops and filmography: Matt Damon or Ben Affleck.
  • Rory: "Matt...but Ben is underrated as an actor."
  • Mal: "Ben Affleck is a better actor...and The Town is better than any Jason Bourne movie."
• Fun aside on movies, including Affleck's and Damon's collaboration and the structural innovation of profit-sharing with production crews on their latest film.

11. Listener Voicemail — Dream Collaboration Albums

[59:42–76:16]

• D from Jersey asks: “If you have two artists that could do a joint album, full project, who would it be?”
  • Rory & Mal go deep on fantasy collabs, from legendary to lesser-known:
    • Jay-Z & Nas (produced by No I.D. or a “sane” Kanye)
    • Drake & Bryson Tiller; Drake & Brent Faiyaz
    • Kendrick & Cole (regretting it didn’t happen at their creative peaks)
    • ASAP Rocky & Schoolboy Q; Beanie Sigel & Jadakiss (post-battle); Outkast & Tribe Called Quest; Redman & Busta Rhymes; The Lox & west coast groups (213, Dogg Pound, or even Pharcyde).
  • Both hosts agree that life, business, ego, and logistics often prevent these dream projects.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On solo nights out:
  Rory ([07:16]): "She goes, ‘Name please?’ I said, ‘Rory Farrell.’ She goes…‘Rory Farrell, plus zero.’"
  Mal: "Let everybody know you have no friends."

• On event management stress:
  Rory ([15:47]): "We weren’t trying to make a lot of money, but I wasn’t trying to lose money…that stuff I don’t miss. It’s stressful. The liability…it’s a young man’s game."

• On shifting priorities:
  Rory ([24:12]): "All my friends moved to L.A.…nope, I cannot wait to get the fuck out of here."

• On encountering kids while trying to relax:
  Rory ([30:27]): "For an adult sleepaway camp…If I’m taking the time to have me time, get these kids away from me. I don’t want to see another kid."

• On deserted island horniness:
  Rory ([45:53]): "I think I would 100% beat off…a few times on a deserted island."
  Mal: "By yourself?...I don’t think I would at all, bro…"

• On the Matt vs. Ben debate:
  Mal ([57:48]): "Me personally, I’m taking Ben Affleck. I think Ben Affleck is a better actor."
  Rory: "But then you get into The Departed. Departed trumps Gone Girl."

• On dream collabs that never happened:
  Rory ([68:17]): "Outkast & Tribe…at Phife’s repass, Andre said they, like, had been working on it. That was like, oh, what the fuck."

• On ideal group pairings:
  Mal ([70:31]): "Farside with The Lox sounds crazy, but, like, listen...I’m not mad at that though."
  Rory: "Mob Deep and Outkast…if you listen to Elevators…those are kind of Havoc snares…don’t think it would be as crazy as people think."

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Timestamps: Important Segments

• [02:52]: Guest cancelation, show kickoff
• [04:01]: The glory of naps & adult schedules
• [05:24]: Rory out at Neil Brennan's New Material Night
• [09:20]: Invite-only/curated party scene in NYC
• [15:36]: Why artist management is a young person’s game
• [21:46]: Ideal retirements: beaches, farms, escaping city life
• [29:02]: Adult sleepaway camp & glamping dreams
• [43:26]: Rachel McAdams "Send Help" movie & deserted island fantasies
• [51:32]: Matt Damon vs. Ben Affleck head-to-head
• [59:42]: Listener voicemail — dream joint albums
• [68:17]: Outkast & Tribe collab that never was
• [75:33]: Closing debates on supergroup drafts & wrapping up

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Final Thoughts

This episode mixes nostalgic reflections with lighthearted hypotheticals and classic New Rory & Mal banter. From solo adventures in NYC to nostalgia for tightly-curated parties, from dreams of peaceful retirements to raunchy desert-island musings, Rory and Mal display the chemistry and humor that make their show a must-listen for fans of hip hop culture, city life, and unfiltered conversation.

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Transcript

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[Rory Farrell]

No worry.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

And now. All right.

[Rory Farrell]

A little bit of a rolling start. We had. We had a guest cancel due to some things. I totally understand. Yeah. Getting. Getting jammed up with. Had a guest canceled. That's why Baby D is not here either. But I mean, let's. Let's. Let's shoot the shit and have an episode.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

I love. I love shooting shit.

[Rory Farrell]

Yeah, man. Let's. Let's get to know each other. Welcome back. Middle of the week.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Yes, yes, we are.

[Rory Farrell]

Powered by Boost.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

I love the middle of the week. Sorry, I don't know why.

[Rory Farrell]

It's just. You're a hump day guy.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Yes. I was trying to find a joke in there somewhere, but yes, I am. I am a middle of the week type of guy.

[Rory Farrell]

Why?

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

I don't know. It's kind of like, you know when you, like on a. On a. On a flight or a trip somewhere and you go take a nap, you wake up, you look at the little map, see where you're adding, like you're halfway there. You know that feeling you get?

[Rory Farrell]

Okay.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

That's what I get on Wednesdays.

[Rory Farrell]

It's only a countdown from here, more or less. Okay.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Like this, man, we almost.

[Rory Farrell]

We almost hear you.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

We almost threw.

[Rory Farrell]

Tuesday and Wednesday are pretty much the most useless weeks as far as excitement goes, but I hear you. Yeah. I mean, unless you're in New York City where they try to make every night some special club. Tuesday is ladies night.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Oh, I don't care.

[Rory Farrell]

New York is really good at just making days that don't matter.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Matter.

[Rory Farrell]

But speaking of naps, I mean, I think this is the best topic to start with. You said you took a nap for the first time in a decade.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

For the first time. Not a decade.

[Rory Farrell]

Learning so much about you.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

I took a nap for the first time in almost two years yesterday. Incredible.

[Rory Farrell]

With a kid, man. Any type of free time I have, I'll take a. I'll take.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Well, yeah, people with kids, y' all have.

[Rory Farrell]

I'll take a 10 minute nap standing up. Like, I'll nap in our laundry.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

I'm talking about like one of those naps where, like, you get like over like two hours.

[Rory Farrell]

Okay.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Like, I had one of those. I had one of those yesterday, man. It felt. But I got up early. I had to get up like really early yesterday and move around a little bit. Then I Got back home around like three. Okay, four o' clock, I was done. I woke up, it was like eight o'.

[Rory Farrell]

Clock.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

I woke up before that. But then like I got out of the bed at 8 and then it's like what do you do now? Like what do you do at 8pm if you already took a nap walking around? No kids. Like what do you do at 8pm if you just wake up to an empty house?

[Rory Farrell]

Yeah, I mean I'm getting, I'm getting fully on a mars schedule now. Like when she's down 8:39. I usually knock out right at that time. It's been tough for me to stay up past 10 lately. Yeah, like in a crazy.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

What is sleep anymore To a parent though? Like what is. Does sleep exist?

[Rory Farrell]

Well, I mean tomorrow would be three in a few weeks. The first year there was non existent. I don't even know what that. I don't even know how human beings function as parents in the first year. I don't even know how I got through that. Now it's regular. Now it's just back to a schedule when you were younger. Like you just on your kid's schedule. Yeah. So it's not that crazy. I did go out last night though.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Where you went?

[Rory Farrell]

I went to the.

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[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

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[Rory Farrell]

So I have been very honest about my one day being Sunday.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Yesterday wasn't Sunday.

[Rory Farrell]

I'm aware. Can I, can I finish?

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Okay, good.

[Rory Farrell]

I feel like I'm being attacked.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

I feel like I'm in family therapy right now. Yes.

[Rory Farrell]

So usually I have Sunday and then we record Mondays but sometimes I'll have like Monday after work. Yeah, that shift got switched that Kia did with a Tuesday one. So whereas remember I had to run out of here at like 3:30 yesterday. Had to get out of here. So Tuesday I had free time when I usually don't because Kia was off on a Tuesday when she's usually not.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Yeah.

[Rory Farrell]

So.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Okay, all right.

[Rory Farrell]

So yeah, but you're acting like I went outside. Outside. Do you want to know what I do when I have free time?

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Yeah.

[Rory Farrell]

So Neil Brennan, who's a great stand up also co creator Chappelle show, he does these things on Tuesday night at the top secret comedy club That's, I'm not trying to like big league anyone. It's really just called that. Yeah, it has a huge sign. It's not that top secret. It just says top secret. He does new Material Night where like, you know, it's not flushed out bits like they literally read off their phone or off like their notes. It was Neil Brennan, Andrew Santino and Dan Soder and it was fucking great. And I text Neil, I said, hey, I see it sold out. Is there any tickets available? He said, yeah, just send me, send me names. I said, I'll be by myself. He's like, all right, cool. I get to the front door where the list is and she goes, name please. I said, rory Farrell. She goes, looks through, said, okay, Rory Farrell, plus zero.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Plus zero. Let everybody know you have no friends.

[Rory Farrell]

Well, I swear to God, I even, I even texted Neil, plus zero. I texted Neil. I said, her saying plus zero did wonders for my self esteem. I almost told her, yeah, but I have friends.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

You can't find anybody.

[Rory Farrell]

You should have just paid the $10.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

You can't find anybody to go with you to a top secret.

[Rory Farrell]

It was, it was so last minute. Like doors were at 7:30. I texted Neil at like 6:15 or something like that. So I wasn't going to rush to try to get someone. I mean comedy shows, you can watch those by yourself. Like you're not like, oh, for sure, for sure. And it was cool. It's cool to kick it with with Neil and Andrew and everyone and no, it was a good time. It was, it was a good solo date. And they started the show at 8 o'. Clock. I was in bed by 10:30.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

So they're there working on new material.

[Rory Farrell]

It's all. They were like, literally reading off their phones of like shit they jotted down that day, like you know, starting out bits to see what something. And they'll literally be like, well, that didn't work. Let me erase that. It's like watching them do the early process, that's. It was really like really interesting.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Is that something that they've always done in comedy or is this something new?

[Rory Farrell]

I don't think New Material night is something that's like brand new. But I haven't seen it really advertised in New York like that. But I could be wrong.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

I've seen comedians like tell the audience, like, I'm trying new material out tonight. Like I've seen that. But like a night dedicated to comedians literally and every like reading off of paper stuff that they just jotted down and wrote, like I don't know if I've ever heard about that.

[Rory Farrell]

Yeah. And I mean, it was definitely like the NYU crowd. I think they even had a student discount or whatever. But it was nice to see, like, younger people not on their phone. Like, nobody was. I've been to shows where, like, they literally lock your phone in the back. I've been to the Chappelle at Radio City and those are the best shows because they have no worries about anything. Some of the kids had phones and. And nobody did anything. I was so happy to see that. Like, they respected what was going on on stage rather than trying to catch a moment.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Yeah.

[Rory Farrell]

Because they were saying some wild.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

I had heard about a. This is. I don't know if you heard about it. You're like the super, super in the mix or in the know guy. There's a R B invite only party called the 705 series. You heard about that?

[Rory Farrell]

Peach?

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Peach probably did.

[Rory Farrell]

I was gonna say Peach did the flyer. Peach.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Right. Did some graphic work for the 705 series. It's a. It's an invite only R B party. And I thought that was dope.

[Rory Farrell]

Okay. I like that it's in the city.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Yeah. I'm guessing it's here. I don't know if they. If they travel with it, but. But yeah, like, it's an invite only. You get an email, I guess, the day or the week of the party or the event, and that's how you get in. I thought that was cool. Like, that idea of that is cool. I like those ideas of like, you know, invite only parties as far as, like, you know, a specific night, R and B night. You know what I'm saying? I think that's some really cool shit. Obviously now we have a lot of members only clubs, especially here in New York with Soul House and a few other houses that are here in New York. But what is it about these curated. These specifically curated events? Invite only. But then you get there and there's people that was invited where you like how you got here. Cause we all know that certain people, we walk in those rooms, you feel like this is gonna be a super exclusive event. You've been there, Rory. You're like, oh, nah, this is gonna be low. It's gonna be the producers of some of the greatest R and B songs. And then you get there and it's like your homeboy from Brooklyn, he's like, wait, how did you get an invite to this?

[Rory Farrell]

Like, the marketing was so good that you felt like it was exclusive and it wasn't. Yeah, But I like the everyone that RSVP got accepted.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Yeah, yeah. And sometimes it feels like that. But I do like the specifically curated because I feel like the energy in New York is so different now. Like, the club scene is, you know, I don't know nothing about it. The strip clubs is terrible. So, like, what do you do in New York if you want to go out and have, like, fun night, Especially when the music is good, Like R B only night, you know the music is gonna be good.

[Rory Farrell]

Yeah. And I mean, I'll falsely take all the credit. I mean, this is Palooza's blueprint. We started the Take it.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

This is yours. It's yours to have.

[Rory Farrell]

We were the first people ever to be like, how about only the people we invite are loud?

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Y' all were the first ones that were.

[Rory Farrell]

But I will say, with those invite only parties, I look at it from. From the other side, it was less about when you saw somebody, like, damn, how'd they get in? When you're throwing the party and you know somebody has went through you. You met all 13 people in the group chat. This person has hit up, and everyone has said no to them.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Yeah.

[Rory Farrell]

And then you're by the bar. I'm like, how the fuck did you get in here?

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Yeah.

[Rory Farrell]

Did you go through the back?

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Yeah.

[Rory Farrell]

That's what always blows my mind of how people will find any way into some type of event. But, I mean, these are always fun. I prefer the invite not in a pretentious way. It's usually just brings a better crowd than it's people that are intentionally trying to be there rather than just like, all right, this is some shit. Let's go to it.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

And then if you're doing. If you're the one that's putting the event together and the invite list, you want a certain aesthetic in the room. That's the part of the party that people don't really pay attention to. Now people are just like, listen, if we could pack the building, that's all that matters. But no, you should have a specific type of people aesthetic vibe in the room, because all of that adds to a better event. Yeah.

[Rory Farrell]

And I mean, we talked on Patreon, like, you know, obviously, girls love karaoke is probably the best party in the city. And I know they've moved around and toured a bit. So, yeah, probably one of the best parties, period. But that the sample party that we were trying to tell you about, it's not invite only. You can buy tickets, but that's just a cool, curated experience. Like, you know, the crowd There is all going to be music nerds, but music nerds that like to be outside and socialize and drink a little bit, women will be there. Like, that type of thing, I think just brings out a crowd instead of you just sitting there on your phone. Like, why the fuck am I at this place right now?

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Yeah, yeah.

[Rory Farrell]

It just. I don't know. Everyone has a common goal there and, I mean, if they'll have us, I'm down to go.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

I can't tell you. It's funny you said that. I can't tell you how many times people have just in conversation, approached me about, yo, why you and Rory don't like, curate parties and DJ and manage? They want us to manage. Like, why y' all don't have artists that y' all manage.

[Rory Farrell]

Well.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

See how you just laughed. Same reaction. Me managed. So I'm like, yo, bro, it has to be a person that has just. First of all, they have to be a grown adult. Like, you have to have some type of, like, adulthood about yourself. I'm not managing no young artist because that's babysitting. You know how that goes.

[Rory Farrell]

Yeah. Starting with the party and event thing. I did that for a decade at its highest level, period. And I know you don't miss it.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Peach. You don't miss it. I. I'm not talking to Peach every day.

[Rory Farrell]

All right. You have to be more specific.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Yeah.

[Rory Farrell]

Ask me what I missed.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Okay. All right, that's fair. What do you miss?

[Rory Farrell]

Because what I think Peach is speaking to is probably what I'm speaking to as far as, like, I miss it every day.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

What do you miss about. About Palooza?

[Rory Farrell]

Probably the camaraderie, which some of it ended up being a false sense of camaraderie. But I still will honor the moments and what they were and what I thought they were at the time and still look at them with love. See, that's therapy. You don't even see. You don't even understand. You don't even know how that therapy bag right now. I get it.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

I'm waiting for the real.

[Rory Farrell]

It's not going to take away from the memories that I had.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Yeah. Memories don't live like people do. You know that.

[Rory Farrell]

Give me the memory.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Didn't you give me all this therapeutics?

[Rory Farrell]

No, no, no. The camaraderie of doing that with your friends, going from city to city is an experience like. Like no other.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

That's fun. Yeah.

[Rory Farrell]

And you know, palooza was never super lucrative. Like, did we make some money?

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Yeah.

[Rory Farrell]

But nothing that was life changing money. It Was it was experience life changing. It was not monetary at all. And to me that was the like in retrospect the better part about it. Like we were just hoping to break even and have as much fun as we possibly could and have create the most memories that we could and that. I miss that shit for sure.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Yeah.

[Rory Farrell]

Of just like all right, we got one. We have one show in Houston on Saturday. How about we go in on Tuesday and leave next Thursday?

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Love like that. Love routing it like that. Yeah, like that.

[Rory Farrell]

That stuff I do miss. Miss. And just like you know, a group of 12 people. You get 12 different stories from that weekend. Like everybody 12 different perspectives. It's just. And regrouping when you get back home. Of like yeah, I miss that type of. Of for, for sure. But as far as like throwing events and the stress of that, like we speaking of Houston, when Drake says that line when he went to warehouse, like is Bun coming? Is anybody coming? Yeah, like the, the stress of that in, in new markets and like dude, that stuff is again, we weren't out there trying to make a lot of money, but I wasn't trying to lose money. Yeah, I was making 75 grand at Havast living in New York City and like yeah. Dumping money into that. Like yeah. There were, there were days like well this fails. We better hope that that Coney island like lets us eat for the next month. So that stuff I don't miss. And it's stressful. The liability is. It's just a lot with events and it's a young man's game. Yeah, I couldn't do that in my 30s at all. It's. It's fun. That should be for younger people to handle. For sure. Now the management side, I mean EO is, is emotional orders is. Is easy for the, for the most part they're. They're so self reliant and like yeah. It's so in house like they, they're a dream. If I could have 10 emotional oranges, I would manage way more. But that's not how the case is Management. I wouldn't want to, I wouldn't want to sell an artist short because it's their life at the end of the day and you're managing their livelihood, their dream, everything embodying what they're trying to do with their brand. And that's not something you should take lightly. If you want to be a manager, you're with somebody's life at the end of the day and if you can't fully put your life into that, you're doing them a disservice and yourself a disservice. Like management needs to be all in. You can't half ass management.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Yeah, that's one reason why I always stayed away from it. Because I know what it takes and obviously watch my brothers do it all these years. It consumes you every thought every day. Even if you're not. And I say it even with us, even if we're not in the studio, we're working, we're on a call, we're on an email. It's like, so now imagine if you have that, then you have artists careers that you're responsible for.

[Rory Farrell]

Yeah, but then I am just a hypocrite because everything I just said, I, I go against that. And my friend Jay electronica is like, yo, you want to manage me on some of these projects? Yes.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Yeah.

[Rory Farrell]

But again, that's more friendship stuff and, and Jay is going to do what he wants to. I work when you're ready to work type of thing. Whereas younger artists, where you're kind of in like that early grind, bail me out. Y need to, I'm locked up. You need to be on, like on the ground with them everywhere. Like we need to go everywhere. You know, Jay's a different example there. Jay's not trying to be outside. Jay's not trying to run with brand deals. Like he wants to put out music and I can assist in the logistics of that type of stuff. But the younger artists, I'm not, I don't have the, the bandwidth. I'd feel like I was doing wrong towards them if I was like, yeah, I'm mad at you. Yeah, you'd be this low on my priority list. And it just, yeah, I can't do that. And I think people really think managed because I get a lot of people just dme artists that's. They don't even know. Like, not like, yo, this is my man's, but like, yo, this person's really dope. Yeah, you should manage them. I'm like, I just don't think you understand what that it's a lot. I mean, it's not me co signing it on the pod. Like, listen to this. That is like this big in that entire thing. And also cosa cosigns on the pod are kind of whatever because we always try to highlight music we like or listen to every episode that cosign behind the scenes. I only have so many certain favors with certain people. Like when I put a stamp on something. All right, I got you on this one. They better be nice. Like, that's also a risk when you're playing the politic game as a manager.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

100. Hell yeah.

[Rory Farrell]

You can't just come with some that may. May work. Like, they all right. They cool, but they're not taking theirself their self as serious. Like, they got a good record, but I could tell in the studio they don't have good work ethic. Like, they're not going to follow up on this now I'm wasting favors. Like, that's a whole nother politic game with. With management. That's just rough.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Yeah.

[Rory Farrell]

Like. Yeah, I don't know that. And listen, 10 to 20 artists are starving with 100% of their money.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Yeah. Yeah, that's a shit.

[Rory Farrell]

That's. That's a lot of work for a small percentage of what you're getting at. If this is something that you feel is still unproven, like, I don't know, but I mean, you should do it.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

With that being said, give it a shot. No, I'm cool, Roy. You know, I don't have the patience for that. But I do help, you know, certain artists wherever I can, but. Oh, I don't. Yeah, I don't. The whole managing. I don't want that. Like, if you need something and I'm able to, you know, use my resources and access to help you, and I'll do that with no. No questions asked. But as far as, like day to day being your actual man, I just. That sounds scary.

[Rory Farrell]

Like, even with EO and like the beginning stages, like, I'm going to fucking Staten island with my. With my own $10,000 in cash, pulling up on Ghostface and Covid. Like, I don't have. Yeah, that's. At 35 and everything I have going on. I don't have that type of mentality for a new artist at this point. Not the. Not the passion is still there, but I'm not. I'm not doing that.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Yeah, no. Like, I don't.

[Rory Farrell]

I'm not staying in the studio until 4am going through. Like, it's just. It's.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

It's.

[Rory Farrell]

It's a lot of work. A lot of work. So now, I mean, maybe one day, maybe that'd be my retirement plan. We finish everything. I'll just. I do it for free.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

What's your retirement plan? My retirement plan. I want to be on the beach, unaliving, wearing the same. What?

[Rory Farrell]

Funny to me.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

You all right?

[Rory Farrell]

You funny to me. I almost said the real word, but I didn't want to get us demonetized.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

How about her? I'm like, wait, what? Yeah, I just, I see myself just living life out on a beach every day. Swimming trunks, T shirt, just like, you know, whatever. Whatever the day brings. I don't know what you doing today? I have no idea. I'm just living. That's what I want. Or a farm. I wanna, I wanna, I wanna live on a farm.

[Rory Farrell]

Yeah. But again, that's management.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

But that's a different management though.

[Rory Farrell]

But at old age, like I'm with you on. Are you saying like live off the farm or just live on a farm? Like how. How far is the nearest convenience store?

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Okay.

[Rory Farrell]

Because. Because farming is no joke.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Yeah. I still need access to.

[Rory Farrell]

Because I would live on a farm that's like not active. Yeah. Like we just, we just ride ATVs and. Yeah, I would definitely do that. But to live off the farm. Yeah. There's not enough Tick Tock videos in the world to like teach me that.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Yeah. Khalees does that.

[Rory Farrell]

That makes sense.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Yeah, that.

[Rory Farrell]

That totally checks out. I could have told you that on.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

The first album, but I think there's such a level of peace and like, you know, just like when you're able to live that life like somebody like Kelis growing up in New York City, Harlem, and then like now as a woman living off a farm, like growing her own foods and things like that, that is such a transition that I think is. It requires a certain level of peace and just knowing who you are and just like totally removing yourself from certain things that you grew up, certain elements that you always had. Like. But I think that that's like such a beautiful moment to be in in your life where you're just like all of the things that I once had and had access to. I don't even want those. I want. I just need this to live.

[Rory Farrell]

Yeah.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

I think that's fire.

[Rory Farrell]

Yeah. Again, farm wise, no matter what, it's something nature driven. As far as retirement, I don't even want to say retirement relatively soon. As far as the next 10 years, like, I. That's why I don't even believe my own thoughts anymore because I was so much in the mind state of. I'm not leaving New York City. I want my kid to ride the train. I want them to get the experience.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

That changes fast. Yeah.

[Rory Farrell]

It changes like.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Rory Farrell]

Whole life. That's my only mentor. No. Nah. All my friends moved to la. I was the last me and Peach. Only ones left.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Yeah.

[Rory Farrell]

Like, nope. I cannot wait to get the out of here.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Yeah.

[Rory Farrell]

I do not want Tomorrow to grow up here, like, that has changed so much. And not even having to do with anything with, like, political climate or inflation. Like, just sick of, like, you just want something different. Yeah. Like nature, but that's something like trees.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Yeah. Like when you travel, when you're fortunate enough to travel and visit different places and things like that. Like, that's, it's. That's what sparks that mindset. Like, you start going. But you're like, wait, hold up. You start seeing how people live and, you know, how they don't need all of the things that you feel like you need. Once you live in New York City, it's like they comfortable, they're happy, they're peaceful. Kids are going to great schools and being productive in life. That's when those things start to manifest. But if you don't. If you're a person that doesn't travel outside of where you grew up and where you're from, you really don't know life outside of, you know where you're from.

[Rory Farrell]

And even in like my early adulthood on my own being here, like, I fully understand anyone outside looking in. I see in the comments of. Of like real estate videos and everything. Like, why the would you live in a closet for 3, $500? You guys are right. But I would never, ever trade anything for my twenties in New York City in those closets for that price. There's no dollar amount that could compare to what that was like. I would never, ever take any of those moments back or change anything in that regard. Now going into my 40s.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Yeah.

[Rory Farrell]

It's different, no.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Yeah.

[Rory Farrell]

But it is still the greatest place on earth. It's an experience that. No. If you spent your 20s outside, in rural. I respect it and do whatever makes you happy. But I could never have that experience in my twenties. I needed this for the first part of my life. Yeah. Second half. Listen, man, listen. I might open a beach bar in Key West. Who knows? But I'm getting the out of here.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I feel you, man. I mean, you know, I'm with you on that 100%.

[Rory Farrell]

And I just. Which we briefly talked about probably more often. Mike, forget the New York City mentality, just the American mentality that, that we share of, like, how nuts it would be to just leave the US and how dumb of a thought that that is. Meanwhile, anyone that grew up in Europe, I will live in Spain for a year. Like, you just move around different because you don't have that mentality that you were taught that this is the greatest place you have to stay here, you'd be nuts to. Everything's here. You. It's only inconvenience when you leave. They try to market it that way. And that's nuts to me.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Yeah.

[Rory Farrell]

Like, the thought of taking your kids and be like, no, I think they should do. Elementary school in Europe is a foreign thought to people with money in the United States now we're only staying here. That's something that I'm starting to grow out of too. Like, I don't have to stay in the United States.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

You don't have to. And I tell. I tell people that all the time. I love, but, you know, people have traveled for school and, you know, lived abroad and things like that. And that's what those things are for, to kind of open your mind up to that, you know, just experience of living outside of your country. And yeah, you can. You will be okay. And you, and you, you know, I'm saying you can thrive and things like that. But again, if you don't do those things, like, I have friends that have never been outside of New York still. And that scares me. I'm like, yo, dog, you still have not gotten a passport. You still haven't, you know, taking a vacation somewhere, like, outside of, like, you know, just right here, upstate New York. Like, they do things like that and they thinking that that's something. Like there's so much more.

[Rory Farrell]

And, and I understand the financial side of that, but I'm sure. But I'm sure there's friends of yours that have spent $20,000 in a nightclub in New York City and never left New York City. It's like, no, you could, you know.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

What you could do with that?

[Rory Farrell]

You know what you could do with $5,000.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

But that, that part of that is the thing that changed my mindset on doing things like that. Like going out, my friends and us getting tables and bottles. Just like when you look up at the end of the month and you realize how many times you went out and how much money y' all spent, I'm like, bro, we could have started toward Italy with the money we just spent in downtown Manhattan in a fucking seven block radius. Yeah, like, you know what I'm saying? It's like that mentality is so. Again, it's immature because we're younger, we don't really know. But at a time, we did know, though. We did know. Like, yo, we can try, but, you know, you just get caught up in this lifestyle of wanting to party and be with your friends and have fun instead of doing real things. Like I've been thinking about starting doing like an adult sleepaway camp. Like I wanna do shit like that. Like an adult sleepaway camp. We fucking have artists come out, perform in front of the bonfire. Like, shit like that to me is like what I wanna do. Like, I don't. The club shit is like. I get it every now, but like, I wanna make like hip hop.

[Rory Farrell]

Burning Man.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Not that far. Not that. Cause you don't again.

[Rory Farrell]

Well, someone's gonna get burnt, curious at adult sleepwalk. Someone's leaving with something.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

This is not the burn to make. This is like very curated. Small like, but just like, yo, we're going and we're renting fucking five cabins up here. Got a lake house. You know what I'm saying? We're gonna set up a stage, like, make it a thing where we can. Because the moments we had as kids. Oh, I can remember having this kid. Like going away to sleepaway camp as a kid. That was some of the best times of your life.

[Rory Farrell]

Yeah, for sure.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

But as adults, we don't experience those things with our friends anymore unless we go on a guy's trip to Columbia. And we know what that is. You know what I'm saying? I'm talking about like, no real fun shit family.

[Rory Farrell]

It's male bonding.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

That is male bonding. But you know, like do shit like that. Like an adult sleepaway camp to me just sounds like. And it's like, we don't have to. That doesn't cost as much money as going to a nightclub.

[Rory Farrell]

No, definitely not.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

You see what I'm saying? Like, we need to do shit. Let's create shit like that. That's the type of shit I want to create.

[Rory Farrell]

Yeah. Yeah. That's just when people just get older, I feel like their schedules get so fucking busy that it's tough to. To even schedule that type of stuff.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

We miss. Far as the kids.

[Rory Farrell]

Yeah. Kids and just life in general, more or less.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Bring the kids.

[Rory Farrell]

It's camp.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

No.

[Rory Farrell]

For an adult sleepaway camp.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Yeah.

[Rory Farrell]

I. I would punt any child. I would throw any child in the lake. Like, I totally. What's so funny is I didn't understand no kid resorts until I had a kid. You think it would be the opposite when you don't have kids? Like, get these kids. K. Didn't really bother me until I had a kid. Now you, the kids was kind of like, if kids at a resort, like, they always having fun. I don't know.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

It's splash. Okay.

[Rory Farrell]

I'm chilling. Everything's fine.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

The moment you have your own.

[Rory Farrell]

But Now I'm like, if I'm taking the time to have me time, get these kids away from me, I don't want to see another kid.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

I totally understand. That makes.

[Rory Farrell]

Hell no.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

See, I don't. I'm speaking because at that point of mind that don't. I don't have a kid at that.

[Rory Farrell]

Point, it becomes that. Now we're at Kids Sleepwick. Now the whole thing is about the kids. What are they gonna do? Yeah, bedtime's here.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Like, he got hurt that it changed the whole energy and vibe. Like, oh, he fell and cut his, you know, his leg. And now it's like, oh, God. Like, everybody's. Yeah, you're right.

[Rory Farrell]

I did. I purposely found one that wasn't an Instagram ad. You know, like those luxury camping things. They were big on Instagram ads when Instagram ad started. Like, and you can. No, you're in like a cabin.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Okay.

[Rory Farrell]

It's a small cabin, but it. It's sort of luxury.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Okay.

[Rory Farrell]

It's a glamping, I think they call it.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Okay.

[Rory Farrell]

But I had. Because I had saw too many people, like, fall victim to, like, cabin.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Like.

[Rory Farrell]

Yeah. And I see it on stories of people I found, like, yo, everyone's on that mattress. There's no way I'm going to.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Yeah.

[Rory Farrell]

The one that everyone keeps going to. I found another one in the Catskills, and it was online, so they had those. It was. He and I did this the Christmas before Amar was born. So 2022 going into 23. Because we wanted to, like, spend our last Christmas without a kid, with no family, no nothing. But it was on, like a compound that had stuff like that. Other cabins, renting out like a whole space like, that could be really cool. Everyone has their own.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Yeah.

[Rory Farrell]

Yeah. And the Casco's. It really was not. I don't know if I got a better rate because it was Christmas Eve, going into Christmas, and there weren't really. We were kind of by ourselves. But it really wasn't that expensive.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Yeah.

[Rory Farrell]

And if they had a grill, you get an oven. Like, we just bought groceries and we're good. You don't really spend that much money.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Yeah.

[Rory Farrell]

Like, and it's cool if you need some. It's Catskill. So you can find a town or Walmart within a 30 minute drive.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Yeah.

[Rory Farrell]

But yeah, it's like this.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

That's fire.

[Rory Farrell]

Yeah. Renting that whole out for. For a week. We could pod.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Absolutely. For sure. What's up, Peach?

[Rory Farrell]

We could pod. We could bring some. We could bring a Synth. We could bring Some guitars sit by the bonfire. See, this is the. Y' all are joking. I'm not. This is some. That I like, brought it up.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

I said this is what I want to do. I'm not joking.

[Rory Farrell]

But not just to pot about it. Like, this is something I would, like, really want to do, bro.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

I want to live like that. We talking about do that. I want to live to my pops. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

[Rory Farrell]

He's parking his camper in front of my driveway as we speak.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Living the life, man. Free. Yeah, man, we should. We got to do that. We got to make that happen, man. This year, 2026, we making a glamping pod happen.

[Rory Farrell]

I'll find the one that I did for Christmas, but that one was great. But I feel like maybe we could find one that would be more suitable to. To potting. But it was definitely a cool, cool experience. Baze almost died a thousand times, but.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Oh, what happened?

[Rory Farrell]

Basil's not really cut out for the cat skills.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

She doesn't. She doesn't have the cat skill. Legs up under.

[Rory Farrell]

She's a cat. It's not even a dog. That's a cute ass cat.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Yo. Your dog doesn't know how to handle the forest. Like, nah.

[Rory Farrell]

Because no, you really in the Catskill. And it's right on a lake. There was a waterfall, which was. We had the cabin right next to the waterfall. I do rain noises at night for me to go to sleep. Didn't need that.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

You don't need that up there. No.

[Rory Farrell]

Fucking beautiful.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Yeah.

[Rory Farrell]

Not. Bay's on. Because you write on the mountain, it was wintertime. There's ice. Yeah. Baze had a rough time.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

That's so funny.

[Rory Farrell]

Like, she had. She went from the excited dog that she was to like, I'm going back to the cabin.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Yeah. I'm hearing shit. I'm smelling things I never smelled before. It's a bear close by.

[Rory Farrell]

Yeah. And she's usually exploring. When I was on the grill, she was on my leg. Like, you living on my leg. I was like, yeah, no, you're a beautiful snack to everyone out here. Like, if humans didn't exist, multiple like. Yeah, they should thank us every day. You would be a snack in a heartbeat.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

That is so funny, man. Yeah, you got to take it. You got to take a pit bull up there. Can't take a multi pool to the forest.

[Rory Farrell]

I mean, even a pit bull would. Some of the shit out there would have. Would have some trouble.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Oh, yeah, 100%.

[Rory Farrell]

I don't even know how we got Down. Down the glamping path. But I know Woodstock has some like, areas like that out there. Oh. I mean, Woodstock could be fun.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Yeah.

[Rory Farrell]

Do you know the band Phony People from Brooklyn?

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

I know some phony people from Brooklyn. I don't know the band.

[Rory Farrell]

Great band, phony People. They did like, part of their rollout. They're signed at 300.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Okay.

[Rory Farrell]

Part of the rollout was busting a bunch of people from media up to Woodstock to do a. A night. And they did like the campfire and. And perform the records and like, I thought it was one of the coolest.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

That's right. Yeah.

[Rory Farrell]

Roll out shits ever. Yeah. That could be fire. Listen, man, Kai's younger, so he can do like the. Like the. The college version of that. Let's go do the old version.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

We're going to do the old version. Glamping. We're going glamping. We're going fishing while we're there.

[Rory Farrell]

Even the challenges that we could do of, like, who could make a fire first? Like, there's a lot of camping things like we. I don't want to get some scout leaders because I know that, you know, well, no. Statue of limitations. They're fine. They're model citizens. But no, we could do archery. Yeah. Could do like ax throw.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

All of the things that will humble us.

[Rory Farrell]

Have you ever tried to chop wood before?

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Chop. Yeah.

[Rory Farrell]

Okay.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Rory Farrell]

It's harder than you think.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

100. Like you don't know. Your hands. Your hands are not built for that.

[Rory Farrell]

Vibrating still.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Yeah. Yeah. Your hands are not built.

[Rory Farrell]

Yeah, I was. I was trash. Yeah, I got it done.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

But yeah, just let me fish, man. Archery and all of that. I'm not. I was never, never good at that.

[Rory Farrell]

Some of the toughest people in New York City that you know, let's. Let's take them to the glamping and see how tough they are out there. Yeah. Chop some wood.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

And new show, we stamped it, so don't take our idea. Felons in the forest. Yeah, felons in the forest. You doing all this?

[Rory Farrell]

You mean all of the New York State jails?

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

No, no, but not Clinton Correction was. But they inside.

[Rory Farrell]

It's all fell into the forest.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Let the ass out here and let them have to survive in the forest for three nights. Let's see who can make it happen. Yeah. You know how to. You know how to shoot a gun? Can you start a fire? No lighter, no gas, no lighter fluid. Just sticks and stones.

[Rory Farrell]

And you could shoot the rabbit. But after that, how are we gonna eat the Rabbit?

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Yeah. Can you skin a rabbit?

[Rory Farrell]

No. Yeah. See, I wouldn't even know whatever. Barry was out there first. I'd be like, yes, eat that. Our stomachs would cave in. I'd be so bad at the woman.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

We should definitely make it happen though.

[Rory Farrell]

I'm sure probably in. In our age range. You guys read the hatchet. You had to read the hatchet in elementary school, maybe not in your era.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

No, not my error.

[Rory Farrell]

The hatchet was about.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

It sounds familiar though.

[Rory Farrell]

This kid got in like a. I think it was a plane crash or something and ended up in the forest with just a hatchet naturally and. And made his way. And then I believe. I believe we read hatchet too, where he. He got rescued and couldn't deal with society and then just went back out with his hatchet. I'm not making that. Really think that.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

To the woods. Fuck society.

[Rory Farrell]

He couldn't deal with WI Fi and was just like, you know what, man? I'm going back.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Yeah, go back to the wilderness.

[Rory Farrell]

I would. This castaway, all of those movies do that a week. I'd like to think that I have a lot of resilience in me, but it just be lack of knowledge. I wouldn't know what the fuck to do. No worry. And now mall, I saw your 2026 vision board and the number one thing on there was upgrading to the all new iPhone 17 Pro in just huge letters on your vision board.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

It's happening.

[Rory Farrell]

Just plastered on your wall, it's happening. But I know in that vision board, you were very worried about the traffic or getting to the store to transfer all your data. That was just crazy on your vision board. Like, how will I transfer the data?

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

I had data on my vision board.

[Rory Farrell]

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[Rory Farrell]

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[Rory Farrell]

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[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

There's a new movie. I forgot the name of it. Josh, send help with Rachel McAdams. It feels like I didn't watch it yet, but it feels like this is along the lines of how Castaway is on a flight with co workers. Flight goes down on a deserted island. You know the story, of course. And now she has to kind of like, you know, they have to survive until help arrives. I wanted to watch it cause the trailer was dope though. Her boss was a complete asshole to her and naturally they go down on a flight. Naturally they go down on a flight together. And now like it appears that her boss has to depend more on her saving their lives.

[Rory Farrell]

Yeah.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

You know what I mean? So I'm gonna watch that though. Cause I like the trailer. So what you were saying, like yeah, the wilderness. No, the hatch flight goes down boy in the woods. Like yes, that story is always old, but it's always interesting to see people how they would survive under those conditions.

[Rory Farrell]

Do you think if you were ever in that situation that y' all would end up like. Do you think you'd get horny in that. In that. That time?

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

No, like if it's our lives.

[Rory Farrell]

We're all human beings, man.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

No, we are. But If. If we're like. We're having to survive, we don't have any food, we don't have any drinking water, we don't have my. I'm not gonna get home.

[Rory Farrell]

I the most when I was broke, man.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Yeah, but no, that's. No, no, Rory, that's different. You being.

[Rory Farrell]

I'm trying to put it to a whole nother degree.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Yeah. Like with you being broke and then like starving, deserted on an island. It's. It's completely different. Like. No, you're all right.

[Rory Farrell]

I mean, typically, how relationships form, like trauma bonding experiences. We're going through a similar thing. Like, I can see you starting to, you know, want to. Because I've even told you in office settings, office settings are like jail. A woman that you would not typically find attractive if you have a 9 to 5 job, she starts to become more attractive. Yeah, you see them more attractive now. Height in this times 10.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Yeah, but that's not survival though, in the office. This is life or death we talking about.

[Rory Farrell]

Okay. Do you think you'd ever beat off if you were on a dessert? Like do you think Tom Hanks, if that was real, like jerked off at all during pass away? Yeah.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

I could see him looking at Wilson one night and getting freaky.

[Rory Farrell]

Anyone that thinks it's an immature conversation. I think you're immature because this is a humanly bodily function that keeps the population moving. It's. It's wired in our DNA. I think I would 100 beat off.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

A few times on a deserted island.

[Rory Farrell]

Yeah.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

By yourself.

[Rory Farrell]

All right, I'll ask you this. How many days in do you think you. You'd beat off? Day four.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

I don't think I would at all, bro.

[Rory Farrell]

Now you would.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Put some coconuts on the tree and just. That's. Now that's the new Wilson. That's Wilma.

[Rory Farrell]

I was about to say open Wilson's mouth. Throw a little coconut oil in there.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Yo, that is sick, man.

[Rory Farrell]

No, but, but really, I feel like if two people of the same age. Yeah. You probably end up fucking.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

No way.

[Rory Farrell]

It would be very irresponsible though, because if you got pregnant, you're.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

This is what I'm. I just don't think. I think y' all are underestimating being like stuck on a deserted island.

[Rory Farrell]

I think you're underestimating once it becomes normalcy that your body would kick into whatever it does usually and at some point you're gonna have to nut.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Okay. Becomes more horny. This is once you're in a die situation. Well, well, I've I said this the other day. I said, trauma makes you horny. And y' all laughed at me. So, yes, I agree. But life at you.

[Rory Farrell]

I got a kid out of it.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

But, like, being on a deserted island, no food, no drinking water, like, you're thinking of. Like, you're scared. You're, like, okay. In panic.

[Rory Farrell]

All right, so after Tom Hanks finds all the packages and they go through that whole thing, and then like, four years later, and he's got the beard, he throws the spear from across the island and it lands on the fish.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Oh, yeah. At that point, he's.

[Rory Farrell]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's jerking it with two hands.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Yeah, yeah. At that point. Yeah, you figured it out. You obviously survived. You know how to feed yourself. You know how to. Like, at that point, yes, you definitely can. So, AI, even though you don't really.

[Rory Farrell]

Agree with AI, not with horny questions.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

AI says yes, it is highly probable that you would naturally experience sexual desire, quote, get horny on a deserted island, as sexual drive is a fundamental human instinct. So, yeah, AI feels like you definitely, at some point will, you know, loneliness. If you are completely alone, your body may still experience hormonal urges and the human need for touch or release may manifest. Yeah.

[Rory Farrell]

And I'm telling you, if you're on an island with a woman, I don't care what she looks like, y' all will probably end up fucking.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Yeah, that's something.

[Rory Farrell]

Two straight people. That's. That's happened.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Once you get to the point where, you know, we're gonna survive, like, we can feed ourselves. We can, I think, after that point. But the first initial plane goes down, second day on the aisle. No fucking way, bro. There's no way. You're. You're a maniac.

[Rory Farrell]

Imagine setting the tone that way. Yeah. Day one, hand on the knee.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

It's just us. Like, I've been waiting to get you alone. Like, what? You know, that's.

[Rory Farrell]

We don't know. All right, but if you don't know if you're gonna survive, I might want to get, like, one last off. If I'm sitting there. Like, both of us are city kids. We're retarded. We have no idea what we're gonna do out here. We might as well fuck while we have something in our stomachs and then just go die in the woods sense.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Yeah, because that's what I'm saying. After you have sex, as soon as you are done, every decent person wants a snack. You want something after sex, like, you don't have nothing.

[Rory Farrell]

You just.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Out here on the beach with salt water surrounding you.

[Rory Farrell]

And just like you probably find there's probably tobacco on those type of islands. Nice little sig.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Yeah, but you gotta eat. You told me. See you.

[Rory Farrell]

That kills appetite.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Yeah. Nah, you tripping, man. But I think once you figure out how to survive.

[Rory Farrell]

Yeah, but I feel like at some point, probably during our lifetime, there will be a D day. I think we're just. We're just in that direction at this point. If you watch the news, you're the first thing you're probably gonna think when they tell us the date, be like, all right, who am I gonna. That's gonna cross your mind. So to think that wouldn't happen after your FedEx plane fall, like. Yeah.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

I don't know, man. One day to eat it. Your Josh is super horny.

[Rory Farrell]

Imagine. Imagine crashing with somebody and then right before you're about to be like, yo, when's the last time you got tested?

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Nah, Come on. You're gonna take this no matter what.

[Rory Farrell]

As somebody that has had chlamydia. It would suck to be on a deserted island with burning media. Yeah.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Yeah. I don't even want no penicillin. Oh, God. I don't even want to know what that's about.

[Rory Farrell]

Did any guys watch Lost? Lost, the show? I never came out.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

A few years ago, right?

[Rory Farrell]

Yeah. It's, like, one of the most popular shows of all time, and I like not to spoil it. I never watched it. I think they all end up just, like, being ghosts. Like, when the plane crashed, they were actually all dead. Did anyone during Lost, like, can we look that up? There's no way they had, like, 12 seasons and nobody on that island.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Oh, definitely. I'm pretty sure there was, like, sex scenes on there. Yeah.

[Rory Farrell]

Okay. Sorry. Well, all right. That answers our question.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Yeah, well, but they're dead.

[Rory Farrell]

If Lord of the Flies. If they got older, there would have been a lot of gay sex, for sure.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

What was that. What was that movie with Leonardo DiCaprio? Was it the Beach?

[Rory Farrell]

The beach, yeah.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Love that movie.

[Rory Farrell]

Classic. That's a classic movie. Yeah, that's a classic movie. Sick movie, but classic, that. I don't want to, like, jump out there without looking at every Leo movie, but that might be a top five Leo movie. Yeah, and that's saying something. The beach is super underrated. That was his Britney Spears Oops, I did it again, like, to get him out of that kid role.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Teenager.

[Rory Farrell]

Yeah, that.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

This.

[Rory Farrell]

This was his rated R Rihanna album, for sure.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

You remember that one, Josh.

[Rory Farrell]

Yo. The Beach.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Yeah.

[Rory Farrell]

Watch the Beach.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Great movie.

[Rory Farrell]

Have you watched the Matt Damon and Ben Affleck, the Rip Rip?

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Yes, I watched the rip on Netflix. Did watch it the other night. You didn't see it yet?

[Rory Farrell]

I have not seen it yet.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Good movie.

[Rory Farrell]

I. I will see it by the time we record again. I did watch the Joe Rogan interview with the both of them, bro. I have a man crush on both these guys.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

You want to hang out with them?

[Rory Farrell]

Absolutely. I have a huge man crush on. On Ben and Matt. They're. They got a lot of. Of like trying to pretend to be the blue collar. I really think they're those down to earth guys. Like, I really do think they're as cool as they. They. They come across.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Are they related or just like close friends from.

[Rory Farrell]

They grew up together in Cambridge, Massachusetts. Went to high school together. Like, okay, but this is also one of those things. Like we talk about what's in the water with. With certain people. The fact that these two childhood friends both became a listers. Like started out together, writing together, Goodwill hunting. This is an insane story of what both of them have accomplished together and separately.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Better actor Benomat.

[Rory Farrell]

Better act. I. Matt.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Matt.

[Rory Farrell]

Matt. But. But I. It's closer than I think people give credit. I think the easy answer would be Matt. But I think Ben in the second half of both their careers has caught up. In the beginning, it was definitely Matt and it was. That's even why Matt played the genius in Goodwill Hunting and he played the.

[Jacob Goldstein (Odoo Advertiser)]

The.

[Rory Farrell]

The meathead guy. But it's. It's close, man. Ben is underrated as an actor.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Better filmography now.

[Rory Farrell]

That one is.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Ben is Batman, bro.

[Rory Farrell]

He's Jason Bourne.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Batman or Jason Bourne.

[Rory Farrell]

There's other Batman. There's only one Jason Bourne.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

The Departed. Yeah. The town.

[Rory Farrell]

All right. Yeah. Well, Josh pulls that up. I do recommend everyone watch the Joe Rogan interview with both of them. Like, it's just a really cool interview watching two people that have been in this industry since the 80s of how they've adapted to streaming and you know, they're also writers, directors, producers. Like, these aren't just fucking pretty faces with a good filmography. Like, these guys have been in every single aspect of the business. I love that they also are the first movie with. With Rip. If the movie is successful, everyone that was on the staff gets paid more. It's. It's the first time they're trying this out. Like if. If you held a boom mic and this is successful, you get more money.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Yeah.

[Rory Farrell]

Which. Which I. I think is perfect because a lot, you know, A lot of these guys will work with the same DP their whole career, and that guy will get his fee. And, yeah, there's no back end on anything. And they. They were also saying, like, it just makes the crew want to work harder for what they're doing at the time. Like, everyone is way more focused because if we make this better, we all get to profit from it, which I think should be in the music business. That's such a great blueprint. Like, you know, again, as much as these guys get of, like, trying to pretend to be the blue, I really do think that they mean the things that they say. I. I really think these are good guys that are super creative. Now, the Matt versus Ben shit, this is what Swizz and Tim need to do. We'll get into him. And Michael made it on our next episode. Yeah, but Matt versus Ben. This is Ray versus Ghost.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Yeah.

[Rory Farrell]

Like, yeah, this one is tough.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Starting out with goodwill hunting is just unfair, though, because that's just, like, such a classic movie, you know? Saving Private Ryan. I forgot he was in that.

[Rory Farrell]

Well, I just want to start with. With what's funny in Matt Damon's filmography. Being an extra in Field of Dreams is hilarious. Just out the gate, you are Extra Dreams. Saving Private Ryan. Does Ben have a better movie than Saving Private Ryan? Does anyone have a movie better than Saving Private Ryan? And Matt, again, is. Is really the second half of it's un. Armageddon is a classic, and Ben was the star with Bruce Willis and a. A crew of actors that are all a listers. Was. That was Michael Bay, right? One of the biggest movies ever. Yeah. Who. Who did the soundtrack? Aerosmith did the soundtrack. Like, we're talking about, like, one of the biggest movies that's ever existed. Is it better than Armageddon?

[Public Investing Advertiser]

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[Rory Farrell]

It'S like Saving Private Ryan is one of the greatest movies ever.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

No, you're right. I'm not arguing that, but I'm saying. So is Armageddon. This is what I'm saying. Armageddon is a bigger movie.

[Rory Farrell]

All right, Pearl harbor verse. Saving Private Ryan I think, would be a more fair versus. And while Saving Private Ryan is better, I do think Pearl harbor, despite trying to do too much with the love story, is an underrated movie.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Yeah.

[Rory Farrell]

Pearl harbor is a fucking classic. They went nuts in that. Where do you put it?

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

I don't know. I think I'm going Saving Private Ryan over Pearl harbor, though.

[Rory Farrell]

Same.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Yeah, I like Pearl harbor, and I probably would actually watch Pearl harbor before watching Saber Pride Ryan if it was On. But when you look at Saving Private, it's a better movie than Pearl Harbor.

[Rory Farrell]

Hot take. And I'm fine with the flak. I'll give for it. I think the Town is better than every Jason Bourne movie. I like Jason. Don't get me wrong. I. I just. I. They're great. They're. They're classics. I. I just prefer. I could watch the Town any. I'll watch the Town on tv with commercials. Yeah. Jason Bourne. I had. There can't be ads on a Jason Bourne movie or. I'm not. I'm not watching that. Yeah, I'll watch the Town with commercials.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Yeah. That's how you know if a movie is really good. If I watch it with commercials, I.

[Rory Farrell]

Watch Shawshank Redemption, which takes six hours. With commercials.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

You gonna be there for two days watching that.

[Rory Farrell]

Which I. I know is. Is a hot take, but that's actually how I feel. Also.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Gone Girl, underrated movie.

[Rory Farrell]

If we're getting into the range of Ben, I don't know where does that. That put him over. Over our guy Matt.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Yeah. Me personally, I'm taking Ben Affleck. I think Ben Affleck is a better actor.

[Rory Farrell]

But then you get into the Departed. Departed. Trump's Gone Girl.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

The Departed or the Town.

[Rory Farrell]

Departed.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Really? No way. The Departed over the Town.

[Rory Farrell]

They're both Boston, they're both crime. But they are different movies.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

They're different. Yeah. No, I'm going to town. I'm sorry. I'm the town over the Departed.

[Rory Farrell]

Leo. Jack Nicholson.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

No, no, no, don't start.

[Rory Farrell]

Jamal Anderson.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Great, great lineup, great cast, but we just talking about the movie.

[Rory Farrell]

Mark Wahlberg.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

The Town is.

[Rory Farrell]

The Town just has so much great. Like, it's the perfect sequence of action where it doesn't go too over the top, where this just feels like. Like an unrealistic, complete mess. They picked the perfect moments for the action and dialogue balance. The Departed, though, like, the part is up there with the score in a Scorsese list. At the end of the day.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Yeah, I'm still going to town. I'm sorry.

[Rory Farrell]

I would see. I would put the Departed more so with something like the Ocean series because it has a cast of seven A listers that you're dealing with. Like Ocean's Eleven. Everybody's a superstar. That, to me, is more a comparison than the Town is just a underrated, amazing crime movie.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Yeah.

[Rory Farrell]

At the end of the day, they.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Don'T have the Departed as a classic. This is other notables for me. I did depart as a classic movie.

[Rory Farrell]

All right. Before we get out of here. I think we do have a voicemail.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

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[Listener Caller/D from Jersey]

Yo, what's up, Rory? Mall, this is D from Jersey. I met you guys in New York one time. I gave you gold cards and Roy used it once.

[Rory Farrell]

My guy, remember? Thank you. I just have a question.

[Listener Caller/D from Jersey]

If you have two artists that could do a joint album, full project, who would it be? Random pairings like. I was surprised to hear how good Larry June and 2 chain sounded, especially over alchemist beats. I would choose probably Dave or Central Cee to do a full project. That four pack that they put out a few years ago was crazy. Like to hear more, maybe a full project from them, but yeah, let me know. Two artists that you guys would like to hear on a project together you think would sound great on a project together. Keep going.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Peace. We appreciate that.

[Rory Farrell]

Yeah, it's a good question. And yes, thank you so much for. For those gold cards.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

It might be time to update those soon, right?

[Rory Farrell]

No, no, they for life.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Oh yeah, I got two of them for lifers. There's no date.

[Rory Farrell]

There's no expiration date on that.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

I don't know where mine is at. I gotta find it.

[Rory Farrell]

Before we answer this though, I. I did have to use that a second time. Back to management. We were recording in a motel at the time in New Jersey just to. Just to get the feeling the cops were trying to do a. Some type of sting operation on prostitution that was happening in that motel that we were recording in. So it's like 3 o' clock in the morning. I'm about to drive back to my crib. I pull out the lot of the motel. I get pulled over immediately. Undercover cop. Two other cops come like, what you doing in there? I was like, nothing, my friend is in there this and that. They're like, well, you know there's prostitution going on in there. I was like, I have no idea.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

It's a motel.

[Rory Farrell]

Naturally, I can assume. I can assume that. So I gave him the gold card that this gentleman gave us. My God sister married a cop in this town. I won't say what the town we were in. So that helped as well. But if I didn't have that gold card, the other gold card, like, I had to go through three steps to prove to these cops that I wasn't a prostitute in that. That motivation.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Gold car got you out of it.

[Rory Farrell]

It helped because I didn't want to say like, yeah, I'm making anti semitic J electronica music in there.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Instead, they would investigate it further that would have been a further investigation.

[Rory Farrell]

Yeah, this is a good question. Can we change the parameters of. In the moment? Like, not right now. Like, in 1996, would I have loved a Tupac Nate Dogg album? Yes.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Oh, he's talking about artists right now.

[Rory Farrell]

Well, I don't think he put too much rules on it. I was saying, can we, like, I would have loved Nas and Az in 1998, 1999 for them to do a joint album.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

I would love to hear Jay and Nas album now. Like, both of them being.

[Rory Farrell]

I told Best of both Casinos. I already titled it.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Yeah, Best. Both of them being where they at in their life right now. Rich as fuck. Coming from the streets of New York. Like, I just think that storytelling would be amazing.

[Rory Farrell]

That would only fall on who's producing it.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Well, it always falls on the music. You know that.

[Rory Farrell]

Like, of course, I'm not doubting either of them at this point in their careers. That would be one of those that, like, only no ID should, like, deal with it. I don't want them to get a bunch. Don't hit Metro. Don't.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Yeah, that.

[Rory Farrell]

That would have to be one that no ID would have to take the. The reins on. Or if, like, a sane Kanye was around. Because there's no rules to this. Yes, a sane Kanye west with no verses would be great to do that entire thing. Kanye west and 88 Keys together would be the best Nas and Jay Z shit. With maybe one or two records from DJ Scratch.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

We got the Drake and Party album, which was. Which was great. But what about a Drake and Bryson till album?

[Rory Farrell]

Yeah, of course I would want a Bryson and Drake project because I like both of them, but I think it's still. It wouldn't be that far away from what Drake and Party do because I think Bryson's sound is. Is definitely influenced from that era. That OVO definitely kind of stapled that.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

That Drake and Brent.

[Rory Farrell]

Yeah, Drake and Brent could be cool, but again, still very much influenced by that. That lo fi sound that 40 kind of created from that time. I would like to hear Drake with a. With a rapper who. If we're going with the eras, I. I'm kind of mad that.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

That we heard him with a rapper. He just had album 21 fair.

[Rory Farrell]

Okay. That's right. And it's great album. I'm not saying that Kanye and Jay stole that idea or stepped on it, but when Wayne and Drake were planning on doing their joint album at that time, with the shape that both of them were in, that would have been like, that's what I would have liked to hear. And at around that time. I wouldn't have mind Drake and Nikki at that time.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Okay.

[Rory Farrell]

That would have been crazy. We talked about last episode. I would have loved Kendrick and Cole at one point. I don't know if that's something I would care for now.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

You should have won it. Why?

[Rory Farrell]

Of course I would want. Of course I would want two legends to. To do that. But I. I think they would have had more. Less pressure and more. They would have been more creative. I feel like at that time when they were planning on doing it around the section 80 time. High, high power time. Like, I wish that would have. Would have landed better.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Okay.

[Rory Farrell]

I think ASAP and Schoolboy would have been really cool around the time they were Collabing in like 2012. That would have been great. I should Beans and Kiss after. After their battle. Yeah, because wasn't that, like, I. I don't. I was just a fan at that time. Wasn't that kind of a rumor? You. You would know better than me.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Weren't they playing.

[Rory Farrell]

Weren't they planning on doing something after they pieced everything up? Yeah, because I know there was the Bleak in. In Beans one that was already being worked on until, like, Bleak broke his leg or some.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

They. I'm not sure if they actually got any records in on the project, but I know that there were talks of them doing a project and then just recently, I think they. They spoke that they working together.

[Rory Farrell]

Okay.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

That Beans a kiss.

[Rory Farrell]

Well, you know, they put out a joint with it with the AI. Yeah, but like, at that time, that would have been. I just, you know, think much better at that point in their careers. I mean, I can't feel my face. Can. Can Juels and Wayne just, like, leak the hard drive at this point? Who cares?

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Yeah, just. We gotta hear that. We get all Untitled app.

[Rory Farrell]

You can upload music. Like, just do that.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

At this point, we get all these leaks and we haven't heard much from that project.

[Rory Farrell]

We never got the T. Pain and Wayne album or did we? No, no, sometimes they were. They were leaked and, like, we kind of got them.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

No, we didn't get a T. Pain Wayne album. Okay.

[Rory Farrell]

No, I think we got one.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

A T. Pain Lil Wayne album.

[Rory Farrell]

Yes, T. Wayne. No, I think I'm talking about when they were really working on it. I think we got it years later. Yeah, we got it in 2017. And there's actually a few joints on this. I'm talking about, like, I do not remember 20, like 2009. They were talking about the shit.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

When did this come out?

[Rory Farrell]

2017. No, I actually do remember. There's a few joints on there.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Oh, this was like an ep. So it was eight joints, eight tracks. I don't remember this.

[Rory Farrell]

Yeah. I'm going to sound like a huge backpacker. The Childish Gambino and Chance the Rapper collab was supposed to happen in, like, 2012. That would have been crazy. It was all around 2012 and was like, let's do collabs.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Yeah.

[Rory Farrell]

Fab. We got Freddie versus Jason, which I loved.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Underrated project.

[Rory Farrell]

Really Underrated project. I'm trying to think what else.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

I don't know about any of these newer guys, though. Collabing, though. I don't know how I feel about. I don't like much of these new guys by themselves, let alone collabing with somebody.

[Rory Farrell]

Like, is there any groups you would want to hear collabs from? One of the most disappointing things outside of Fife, actually passing. At his Repass celebration, Andre 3000 spoke and said that that they had been working on an Outcast Tribe collab.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

That makes sense.

[Rory Farrell]

And it was like, oh, what the.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

That makes sense.

[Rory Farrell]

What the, man?

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Yeah. Damn it. Fight.

[Rory Farrell]

Damn it. Pancreas, diabetes, man.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Damn it. That makes sense, though. That makes all the sense in the world.

[Rory Farrell]

You know, when I was younger, what? I would have loved Red, man and Busta Rhymes.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

A lot of energy.

[Rory Farrell]

Yeah. I just think that would just be a fun project. And I think Red is just good. Red is just great in groups and duos.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

I'm trying to think, who would I want to hear the Locks with as far as a group? Like, I don't want to. I don't think I want to hear more, like, street shit from the other group. Like, I think I want a more artistic group, like, with the Locks, though. Like, the Locks is grittiness bars. And then, like, give me an artistic group with different sounds.

[Rory Farrell]

213.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Okay.

[Rory Farrell]

I mean, rest in peace to Nate Dog. Yeah. But if we're talking without limitations, Snoop, Warren G, and Nate Dog would be kind of.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Yeah.

[Rory Farrell]

You know who I'm most scared about in that entire group? You'd be surprised.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

As far as what? Rapping.

[Rory Farrell]

Yeah. Snoop is getting 8 up on that album.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Oh. I mean, yeah, you told my.

[Rory Farrell]

I'm not worried about Warren G, nigga.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

[Rory Farrell]

And granted, you go through Dre 2001. Snoop has kept up with the best of them with rappers. I'm not saying he can't.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Yeah.

[Rory Farrell]

But he.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

The Locks is different.

[Rory Farrell]

He would be my. My biggest fear. Yeah. Of like, when he comes on, like, all right, man. I don't know.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Yeah, you can't. Two plus two. They can pull your way out of this one. Like, this is not. Not that Snoopy.

[Rory Farrell]

Finding, like, these laid back pockets that sometimes sound so weird when.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Yeah.

[Rory Farrell]

Like, after a chic verse. I don't know if it's like Snoop just chilling. Yeah.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Big D, O, Double. You can't spell your name more than once on that album. Snoop. You can't. We not doing that.

[Rory Farrell]

But not, I think, like a dog pound 213, something like that with. With the locks could be cool. I mean, again, super nerdy. But I'm just trying to think west coast Far side could be really cool with. With the locks.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

That's interesting.

[Rory Farrell]

Yeah. A lot of the Bay Area groups that had the double time, like. Yeah, I think they could be really cool with the locks.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Far side, with the locks. It sounds crazy, but, like, listen.

[Rory Farrell]

Does it though, when you think about it?

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

That's what I'm saying. Are you thinking about it, like, really? Like, listen. It's like. I'm not mad at that, though.

[Rory Farrell]

Yeah. Far side.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

It's definitely something you like. On paper, you'll be like, the Locks and far side. But it makes sense.

[Rory Farrell]

You know what wouldn't sound as crazy as people think it would is Mob Deep and Outcast. The sat. Like, I don't know if you. All right. If you listen to Elevators, which is a lot of people's favorite Andre 2000 verse ever.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Okay.

[Rory Farrell]

Like, those are kind of havoc snares at the end of the day. Like it. I don't think the. The Sonic's music. Yeah.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Okay.

[Rory Farrell]

When it comes to the groups, of course, all these guys could rap together. I'm trying to think how their sounds would even merge.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Okay.

[Rory Farrell]

I don't think it would be as crazy. And I think they could keep up with. With more of the Dungeon family stuff.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Future Max B.

[Rory Farrell]

We need that tomorrow. Oh, my.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Yeah.

[Rory Farrell]

That would be incredible. Why has no one ever brought that up?

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

I don't. I mean, maybe they have behind the scenes.

[Rory Farrell]

That would be nuts. Yeah. I went back again and listened to that French and Max B album. My bad, yo. French is still in shape, dude.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

There's some joints on there.

[Rory Farrell]

French rap. Like, when French feels like rapping, he'll rap.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Yeah.

[Rory Farrell]

I would understand if I was a prince.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

I like the.

[Rory Farrell]

I like the project of Dubai. I wouldn't want to rap. But he's like, when. You can tell when French showed up to the studio, like, all right, today I Feel like rapping.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Yeah. He seems like he's still interested. Yeah. But, yeah, I'm not mad. Like, their project, I mean, obviously, French and Max, their chemistry is undeniable. So, yeah, the more I listen to the project, I'm like, they really did a really, really good job with this.

[Rory Farrell]

Would you ever want another Firm up again? We're speaking of as if everyone is here and active and everything. Another Firm album.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Yes.

[Rory Farrell]

I mean, I love that Hit Boy got the Firm back together. If they didn't have, it had to be the Firm with Cormac. It had to be the original.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Yeah.

[Rory Farrell]

Like, Cormac has to be a part of that entire thing. I don't know if I'd want Dre to produce it, though, because I still can. I know the Firm is not Dre, but the only Firm album we got is produced by Dre. I. I know people think we hate the west coast and it's the opposite, but I would want Dre to stay so far away from that album.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

So would you want to produce it, Al? Yeah.

[Rory Farrell]

West Coast. See?

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Safe.

[Rory Farrell]

You can't. You can't.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Safe. I see what you did there. West Coast. Spent a lot of time on the East Coast. I get it.

[Rory Farrell]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Actually, Alan hit Together.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Yeah. That was a collab project. That was dope.

[Rory Farrell]

Yeah. We still never got the Child Rebel Soldiers album. At that time, when they were doing the Good Fridays, they put out us Placers with Pharrell, Lupe, and Kanye. I wanted that at that time. That. That would have been a lot of.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

These just be, like, great ideas, and you can tell the artist tried, and then we know how this happens.

[Rory Farrell]

But getting that many people on the same page, it's just.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

It's not easy.

[Rory Farrell]

I don't think that's. That's ever going to happen. Beanie Siegel and Scarface always wanted that because they even. I felt like that was like a Mac and Brad. I forgot what they had said. Something, like, when blogs had first started, they was doing something, but I don't know, man. Y' all owe us these albums as fans.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Yeah.

[Rory Farrell]

Stop. Stop what you're doing.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Stop. Stop taking care of the family and get in the studio.

[Rory Farrell]

Your health, this and that.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Yeah.

[Rory Farrell]

Was there any albums that. But I'm talking from a fan's perspective. Was there anything, like, outside of what you're saying with, like, Bleak and Beans and Kiss and, like, was there anything that you heard in studios when you were younger of people just throwing ideas around.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

That I could remember? Nah, not really. Because back then, it Was all, you know, once it was once state property happened, a lot of the work was like in house. And once Kanye happened, just like it just was that it became, you know, Jay, state property. You know, anybody else on rock. It was like that. It was really just that it wasn't too many. Like, obviously Jay was doing songs with other artists, but as far as like them doing like full projects with other people. Nah.

[Rory Farrell]

Yeah.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

It wasn't too much that I could remember. It wasn't too much talks of that happening.

[Rory Farrell]

I mean, I. I like that on Hard Part six that Kendrick admitted that he was the reason why the black hippie album never happened because he had other creative that he was going through. I mean, I know he's probably focused on his next project, but I do think we need a schoolboy's in such a good, sober, healthy place. J Rod, like, I think that needs absol. Just put out incredible work. I want a black hippie project.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Yeah, I would like to see that happen.

[Rory Farrell]

Can I get Kendrick's in a space with PG Lang and this and that. I know there's business behind the scenes with TDE pj. Like that's going to be a thing, but that would be nice just for. Even if they do a. Ep. Like.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Like six joints.

[Rory Farrell]

Yeah.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Yeah. I'm not.

[Rory Farrell]

There doesn't need to be a hook. Like pick six beats.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Yeah.

[Rory Farrell]

Just go.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Yeah.

[Rory Farrell]

Not even overthinking it. Just. Just. I think that would be a cool. Like the way Kiss kind of snitched on Cole was saying there's probably going to be a mixtape that comes out before the album. Like before Kendrick's next album. Two weeks before you just give us a black hippie EP. Like, I think that, that, that would calm my 2010 brain down of what you guys promised us so long ago.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

This is what it would have sounded like back then. Yeah. I'm not mad at that.

[Rory Farrell]

Yeah. I feel like we can either table for Patreon or another episode. Maybe we create some super groups. Like. Like draft. Because black KB would be five.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Create some. But how four would.

[Rory Farrell]

Four would be a good match.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Four is a match, but let's.

[Rory Farrell]

Let's do four.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Okay.

[Rory Farrell]

And maybe we draft some super groups. That could be interesting because I think doing a bunch of trying to make an all star team may not work out. I think that'd just be good debating.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Yeah.

[Rory Farrell]

All right, so like drafting Big Pac, Nas, hov. I don't know if that's the best four together. Yeah, that. That could be cool. Draft. Your. Your super group could Be coming.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Okay. Someone thinking about. I ain't mad at that. Yeah, yeah.

[Rory Farrell]

And then that could go against groups. Yeah, that. That could be cool. All right, well, I have to get out of here. This was cool to catch up. Sorry, we did have a guest booked that. That had to cancel.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Yeah, yeah, some. Some issues that kept him.

[Rory Farrell]

Which.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

Which I have a studio today. But it's all good. He'll be back. Totally respect.

[Rory Farrell]

So, yeah, we'll be back tomorrow.

[Co-host (Possibly Mall)]

We'll be back soon. Talk to you soon. Be safe. Be blessed. It's gonna be cold this weekend, Rory. So facts, you know, I mean, we gotta do what we gotta do. But I'm not. He's just Ginger. Peace.

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