Episode 456 | ICON

Summary

New Rory & Mal – Episode 456 "ICON" (February 17, 2026)

Podcast: New Rory & Mal
Episode: 456 – "ICON"
Release Date: February 17, 2026
Hosts: Rory, Mal, Damaris (+ guests/panel: "Pam & Gina")
Theme: Relationships, music reviews (Brent Faiyaz "Icon," Jill Scott, A Boogie), hip-hop internet controversies, NBA All-Star Weekend, and open, funny conversations about modern life.

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Episode Overview

This episode finds the New Rory & Mal crew bouncing between hilariously candid relationship and Valentine's Day talk, passionate music reviews (spotlighting Brent Faiyaz’s "Icon"), debates about hip-hop discourse, internet viral moments, and spirited discussions about the NBA All-Star Weekend. The recurring through-line is how the internet twists narratives, the challenges of growing in the public eye, and balancing music criticism with fan expectations.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Post-Valentine’s Day Reflections & Social Media Reactions

[03:13 – 05:52]

• The team discusses the aftermath of Valentine's Day: pregnancy reveals, fake relationships, and "side chick appreciation" jokes.

• Mal jokes about how Valentine’s Day always exposes relationship statuses:

  "Valentine’s Day is...we should call it Revelations. A lot is revealed. You’ll find out who’s pregnant, who’s married, all that on Valentine’s Day." – Mal (05:29)

• Social Media Pregnancy Reveals: Panel laughs about women doing pregnancy reveals on Valentine’s, causing awkward interactions with men who were flirting.

2. Valentine's Day Experiences & Relationship Rules

[06:07 – 16:00]

• Roundtable on what each host did for Valentine's Day, with Mal watching the NBA Dunk Contest (“the worst dunk contest of all time”).
• Damaris highlights the difference in how men and women celebrate—and that Valentine's Day is like a "draft day" for potential partners.

  "Valentine's Day is draft day. So [guys] gotta impress me and tell me why they should continue to 2026." – Damaris (18:25)

• Rory discusses taking his daughter out, sparking a debate about whether men should do something for their child's mother on Valentine’s Day ("I think you should treat your baby mother well...it’s love within your family" – Rory, 23:10).
• Damaris strongly disagrees: Valentine’s Day is for lovers/romantic partners only, not for co-parents unless it’s on behalf of the child.

3. Elevator Etiquette & Insecurity

[09:08 – 16:00]

• Damaris recounts an awkward elevator moment where a woman compliments another man’s cologne in front of her boyfriend, sparking debate: is that inappropriate or insecure?
• Mal and Rory both insist certain lines shouldn't be crossed in public flirtation or compliments.
• Fun barbershop wordplay:

  "If she looking at his feet, that mean he could beat." – Damaris (16:09)

4. Defending Hip-Hop Opinions, LaRussell’s Lil Wayne Statement

[33:00 – 46:43]

• Discuss the internet uproar when rapper LaRussell said he stopped resonating with Lil Wayne’s lyrics as he got older, finding a lack of substance.
• Rory and Mal break down whether Wayne’s catalog is “substantial,” and highlight how social media/blogs create viral outrage cycles, often missing the nuance:

  “Sometimes when all the blogs post at the same time with the same narrative, it’s because they’re lazy—not because someone’s paying them." – Rory (37:28)

• The group notes Wayne himself has admitted to sometimes just “barring down” with less thematic depth.
• Mal’s bold take: Rick Ross’s catalog has more musical substance than Lil Wayne’s; Patreon battle teased.

5. Internet Satire Gone Wrong: The Vlad Roc Nation Tweet

[49:04 – 55:33]

• Rory recounts DJ Vlad’s Twitter post satirizing conspiracy theories around Roc Nation and the Megan/Tory Lanez trial, which many took literally.
• Insightful commentary on media literacy:

  "How can AI pick up on sarcasm before a human being?" – Rory (51:41)

• Mal: "People don’t understand satire...they just want validation for what they already believe." (51:50)
• They reflect on how social media drives false narratives, with people preferring wild conspiracies over logic.

6. NBA All-Star Weekend & Slam Dunk Contest’s Decline

[56:06 – 63:25]

• Extended segment dragging the current NBA All-Star game format and especially the dunk contest:
  • Suggestion: hand it over to YouTube/internet dunkers and let pros “sponsor” for entertainment.
  • Nostalgia for the days when star players like Jordan, Vince Carter owned the event.
  • Concern that fear of “brand damage” keeps superstars out of skills competitions.

7. Deep Dive: Brent Faiyaz’s Album "ICON"

[67:32 – 84:45]

• Mal is glowing: "I have not stopped listening…That’s all I listened to all weekend. Incredible album." (68:00)
• The team debates why online fans were disappointed—many missed Brent’s signature “toxicity” and wanted more vocal range.

  "You do have to have a niche or a gimmick when you’re not that vocally talented...Brent’s a vibe and a lyricist." – Damaris (69:04)

• Rory and Mal defend "ICON" as Brent’s best work and argue it elevates him to a different level in R&B.
• Mal controversially claims:

  "If Frank [Ocean] never puts out another project, as long as Brent keeps doing this, we’ll be all right.” – Mal (78:32)

• Even braver: "Brent has surpassed Frank Ocean." – Mal (79:42)
• Group concedes Frank’s classics are untouchable, but applauds Brent’s consistency and Icon’s cohesive sound.
• Production notes: Shout-out to Raphael Saadiq, Benny Blanco, Mike Dean—great production energy.
• Damaris vows to give the album another listen.

8. Jill Scott & A Boogie with the Hoodie New Music

[84:48 – 89:53]

• Jill Scott’s new album praised for positivity, strong features (Tierra Whack, DJ Premier), but noted as a "long listen."
• Damaris: “For over a decade, A Boogie has been making better music than the rest of you.” (87:12)
• Warm props for A Boogie’s EP "Before Artistry": enduring sound, “never dated,” keeps NYC music vibrant.

9. Listener Voicemail: Kink Conversation on Pegging

[91:09 – 99:20]

• Listener asks for advice on how to ask his girlfriend to peg him, and whether it’s shameful.
• The crew explores kink acceptance, notes some women are open, most aren’t, but:

  "If that's what you into, just ask. That's why we need to stop kink-shaming—so people can be more open." – Damaris (98:58)

• Mal and Rory advise caution: odds are, most partners aren’t up for it, so choose your moments wisely!
• Hot take: “If you want your kinks satisfied, be with someone willing to do it. If she shames you, move on.” – Damaris (97:52)

10. Obama and Aliens, Rest In Peace, Shanae Curry

[103:01 – 108:18]

• Quick, funny exchange about Obama’s quiet “confirmation” that aliens are real, and the lack of public reaction.
• The crew closes on a somber note: heartfelt condolences for the recent loss of friend and industry peer Shanae Curry—a vibrant presence in their lives.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Relationship Exposés:

  “Valentine’s Day should be called Revelations. A lot is revealed.” – Mal (05:29)

• On treating your baby mother on V-Day:

  "If you think I wouldn't send flowers to her house...we have a child together. Like, that's the greatest gift ever. Happy Valentine's Day." – Mal (23:30)

• On internet conspiracy thinking:

  "How can AI pick up on sarcasm before a human being?" – Rory (51:41)

• On Brent Faiyaz’s new album:

  "This album is crazy...this might be Brent’s best album...I can't believe he made this album." – Mal (73:41, 74:12)
  "Brent has surpassed Frank Ocean." – Mal (79:42)

• On the decline of NBA dunk contest:

  “Just give it to YouTube. I don't need to see NBA players do this anymore.” – Rory (56:17)

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Segment Timestamps

• Valentine’s Day aftershocks: 03:13 – 08:00
• Elevator etiquette & insecurity: 09:08 – 16:00
• Baby mama on Valentine’s: 19:27 – 26:19
• LaRussell, Wayne, and hip-hop commentary: 33:00 – 46:43
• Vlad’s Roc Nation sarcasm tweet: 49:04 – 55:33
• NBA All-Star Weekend: 56:06 – 63:25
• Brent Faiyaz "ICON" Review: 67:32 – 84:45
• Jill Scott & A Boogie music reviews: 84:48 – 89:53
• Listener Kink Voicemail: 91:09 – 99:20
• Obama & aliens, RIP Shanae Curry: 103:01 – 108:18

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Tone & Original Language

• Candid, irreverent, quick-witted.
• Language: Raw, no-filter, plenty of playful barbs and running jokes; safe for those familiar with the show’s laid-back chemistry.
• Energy: Upbeat, sometimes argumentative, but warm and inclusive—always circling back to camaraderie.

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For New Listeners

If you want a lively mix of real-life mess, thought-provoking debates about music and culture, and a crew unafraid to poke fun at each other and society, this episode is a strong example of what makes New Rory & Mal a beloved, off-the-cuff hip-hop/entertainment podcast. The highlight is the “ICON” album review and the heartfelt segments on relationships and internet madness—all with laughs and (occasionally) actual wisdom.

Transcript

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[D]

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[A]

You ain't asked me to design no trophy. You know I can't design. I Can't even draw a circle. Right.

[D]

That's why we might have asked him to.

[A]

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[D]

Happy.

[C]

What is it?

[D]

What is it? Happy Valentine's Day.

[A]

It has to be something side Chick Appreciation Day.

[D]

No, no, no. We always appreciate the side chicks. I'm talking about, like, coming off of Valentine's Day. Like, what's that?

[C]

Some appreciate them more than their own girl.

[D]

Yeah, I mean, well, you know, this is like happy.

[A]

Tell me about it.

[D]

This is lovers week. This still lovers lovers bliss. Happy lovers bliss week.

[C]

Right?

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

It's gonna sound corny, but I didn't realize how many people that I follow are in love. Like, I love to watch how many.

[D]

People I follow was pregnant. I didn't realize how many people I follow was in relationships. I didn't realize how many people was engaged.

[C]

That usually happens, like, around the first day of school. Like you've had a kid this whole time. Yeah.

[D]

Ladies, y' all gotta stop doing the pregnancy reveal on Valentine's Day. Cause we be flirting. And you here you are eight weeks pregnant.

[C]

Eight weeks crazy. Maybe she didn't know.

[D]

Nah, she knew. You don't. Don't have me flirting with you when.

[A]

You eight weeks pregnant. Especially in New York State. It's time she got.

[D]

But congrats to all of the ladies that.

[C]

Nah, you gotta get rid of homie before. Before you start flirting.

[D]

What you mean?

[C]

Even if you plan on taking homie to the glue factory, you can't flirt until. Until that feed is.

[A]

Why not?

[D]

You can get one.

[A]

You could give a some pregnant. Even though you plan on getting rid of the baby.

[D]

Who.

[A]

If you plan on getting rid of the baby, you could give him some pregnant.

[C]

All right. Give who?

[D]

The. The guy that got you pregnant or the guy that.

[A]

Then you're then your next victim.

[D]

At least.

[C]

I mean, at least you have to worry about getting pregnant.

[D]

Exactly.

[C]

You could let them come in you and then, you know, nothing's gonna matter.

[A]

Me daddy.

[D]

Not in me daddy.

[C]

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[A]

I know we got hot. No, this is. That's bad.

[D]

That's Netflix.

[A]

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[C]

Just know Boost Mobile is just as responsible as all of us for everything that we say.

[D]

Yeah. Cause Boost Mobile, they sponsored the unlimited texts I had to send out after I found out women I've been flirting with are pregnant. I was like, yo, why you ain't telling me? I would have been like, unfollowed you and all of that.

[C]

Nah, you Uncle Mona.

[D]

No, I'm not. I'm not an uncle.

[A]

Finding out them that being your dims. Dim see your DMs all year round, have girlfriends every year. It's like they surprise me every year.

[D]

I love it. I love it. I love seeing y' all cry when y' all realize that he don't like you like that. I love that. Not you.

[A]

Oh, okay.

[D]

I'm just saying women. I love seeing that. I love seeing women, you know, realize where you stand in their life. Where you, you know, I mean, because it's good. Valentine's Day is. We should call it Revelations.

[C]

Okay.

[D]

Revelations. A lot is revealed. A lot of you'll find out who's pregnant, you'll find out who's married, you'll find out who's back that they kept kicking in the back since Christmas. You find all of these things out on Valentine's Day. I love it.

[C]

Not a lot of time between.

[D]

Baby D, how you feeling? Baby D, Baby D, how you feeling?

[C]

We got different algorithms. Cause I only saw love.

[D]

You only saw love.

[C]

I was kind of shocked by. Dude.

[D]

It was a lot of love too, though. Let me put that out there. It was a lot of love. Fellas, y' all did y' all thing. A lot of the fellas I saw doing good things for the ladies. Salute to the fellas out there that really, you know, show up and show out on Valentine's Day for their woman. They. That doesn't go unnoticed. Salute to y'.

[A]

All.

[C]

Got you.

[D]

Okay.

[C]

What? What you do?

[D]

Nothing. I was home watching the worst dunk contest of all time. Allstar Saturday.

[C]

We'll get to that.

[D]

We going to get to that.

[A]

All right.

[C]

How?

[D]

That's what I was doing.

[C]

Did you at least text a few women? Happy Valentine's Day, Cuz, by the way, Valentine's Day always need to be.

[D]

I get out the way on Valentine. Like you can do that. Get out the way. I get out the way on Valentine's Day. I'm not going to even play with a woman and have her thinking that, you know, get out the way.

[C]

Just a text.

[D]

N. No, I'm not doing that. Cuz the text like a text. My cash app ain't go off my zelden ring like it's like, damn.

[C]

Well, you don't need to be texting girl anyways, though.

[A]

Yes, he do.

[C]

If I say, happy Valentine's Day. And you say, my cash app didn't ring. I have no business texting. Who.

[A]

Who do you text happy Valentine's Day? Who would you text Happy Valentine's Day to? Because you didn't text me. And I'm one of your homegirls, so you don't text it to your homegirls.

[C]

I just said, I got my mother.

[D]

I would have text you Baby D. But we. You know, our clip was doing numbers. You know, our Valentine's clip was doing numbers. They was hitting my line talking about, oh, egg rolls. I was like, yo, first of all, it's not even an egg roll. Spring roll. Thank you.

[A]

You know what I'm saying?

[D]

I had to correct them. They was in my inbox trying to go crazy. I'm like, yo, first of all, they.

[A]

Was hating on me. What they say they punched out. Wasn't cute.

[D]

They was like, yo, Baby D, like, that's how she eats spring rolls. I was like, it was hot. I said, y' all had to blow on it. It was fresh out. You know what I'm saying? I. I a want to put the hot spring roll in Baby D mouth.

[C]

Like, you're a gentleman.

[D]

Yeah, come on, now. They tried to give me a lotion.

[A]

I know they was hitting you with your. Oh, that's you. That's what's up. Yeah, that's him.

[D]

What's up?

[C]

Yo, y', all, I will say my request. Dms, the amount of people say, yo, just between you and I, they. Right?

[D]

Yeah, just between you and I. The DMs is hilarious, cuz it's never between just you and I.

[C]

And I replied to all lean into it. Sure are.

[D]

Yes, they definitely are. They definitely are. Now I'm seeing that the. I'm looking at the rundown.

[C]

Hold on before, did that disrupt any of y' all lives? Because I did see Damaris put up. I wouldn't call it a subtweet, per se, but she was like, this is why I only with secure men. And I knew it had to do with the video. Did that disrupt anything in y' all lives? Me?

[D]

No.

[A]

No, man that I have any bit of involvement with thinks on any planet that I am my boss. No, no one thinks that. Only people. No one thinks that. I don't have to deal with that.

[D]

In my text, but it's funny to see people, like, try to create that. Like, yo, I knew they was. I'm like, word. Did you know?

[A]

Did you know that?

[D]

How did you know that? How?

[C]

And this is The. This is the way we tell y'. All.

[A]

No, this is what pisses me off. The. Oh, they fucking narrative. Whatever. That's what. When. Be like, Maul playing around, but Demer is serious. Like, Demer is so thirsty for Ma, he just won't give her no play. That pisses me off. If you want to say we mutually fucking, that's fine. Don't try to make it seem like you thirsty, Maul.

[C]

You mean consensually. What's not mutually fucking? Believe there's a word for that. And it rhymes with grape.

[A]

If y' all want to say that we're mutually intimate, that's whatever. But don't go and make it seem.

[D]

Like I'm thirsty, though.

[A]

Yeah, I don't like that. I don't like that out of here.

[D]

I can respect that. Yeah.

[C]

You hungry? You're not thirsty? Yeah.

[D]

But that's what I did for Valentine's Day. I watched the numbers go up on.

[C]

That Cameron bar that he just wrapped. I thought it was.

[A]

I do have a question for Ma.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

I was in an elevator and I witnessed.

[D]

Oh, no.

[A]

I witnessed the interaction, and I tried really hard to contain a giggle because I'm like, if Maul was here, this would be such a crazy interaction. You. I think about you at times like that. So I watch.

[D]

They don't really think we see. So once you see you thinking about.

[A]

Once they hear the question, they got.

[C]

Going up and down thinking about mall. That's crazy.

[A]

I was in an elevator, right? And there was a man in the elevator. You know, nice looking guy or whatever he. And he did. He smelled really good. A young couple got in. In the elevator. Young. So it's me, the cute guy in the corner, and the young couple, they get in and the girl goes and turns to the guy and says, what are you wearing?

[D]

No, she's single.

[C]

I would have turned. I would have turned into Solange in that elevator.

[D]

Yeah, she's single. She said I'd have been y'. All. Yo.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

And we're back. Yeah.

[A]

So I wanted to ask you, right? In any scenario, is that okay? Because maybe he thought that the dude smelled good, too, and he didn't want to ask the dude, so he had his girl. Ass.

[C]

You would have heard him whisper that in the elevator. You're in the elevator.

[D]

Let me tell you one thing. Okay, let me speak for myself, because you're asking me the question, right? Let me tell you one thing I've never done. I've never gotten in the elevator and smelled a man and thought he smells good. Never thought that.

[C]

Babe, babe, can you see what he's wearing?

[D]

Yeah. Like what? No, you don't. Woman ain't supposed to do that. Because now, okay, this is what I love to do. Reverse the roles. I get in the elevator with my girl. It's a woman standing there. I'm like, damn, you smell good. What's that? Home is up. When we get home, house ain't no. It's gonna be cold pots. It ain't gonna be no food, everything, woman. You don't want to hear your man tell a woman, like, oh, you smell good. What is that? You don't want. You don't want that, right?

[A]

I do not exactly. It was the. You know what was crazy? I think it wouldn't have been as bad if she would have said something like, hey, I'm sorry. I'm so sorry to bother you. What are you wearing? Because you smell like my dad, and my dad wears that exact scent. Like what? What are you wearing that's different? But the.

[D]

I can't ask. Okay, The. No.

[C]

I think I'd be more mad that my girl's. I've met your dad don't smell like that.

[D]

No woman of mine, you can't even talk to men in public.

[C]

Facts, Mal.

[D]

I'm Muslim. What you want me to do? No more dope gang Alhamdulillah. What you want me to do? My woman can't even talk to other men, let alone. What are you wearing? Because my dad wears that same. So you know what he wearing. If your dad wear the same thing. Now you lying. Your dad smell like mothballs. First of all, let's.

[C]

I was gonna go with gold bomb powder.

[D]

Let's start there. You're fine. Your father smell like mothballs. Let's start there. Stop lying. He got mothballs in his closet. Everything he put on smell like mothballs. Let's start there. So now you lying to this man. Like, no, you ain't telling no man he smell good while you with me. You crazy. No, not my woman. No, no, I'm not. I'm not. Because again. And then this is why women is whack Rory. Because then y' all try to make it seem like I'm insecure. See women to paint that. Like, what's wrong? You can't. I can't give a man a compliment. What you. You. Why you acting insecure? Like, you know how Baby D was subtweeting an insecure man? What? You said an insecure man is not a man.

[A]

Said an insecure man would Never make it around here. Those tend to avoid me. They tend to avoid me. They call me masculine.

[D]

So if a man gets mad at that, if your man gets mad at that, would that be a sign of insecurity?

[A]

No, that was crazy. I was. I was over there like, oh, I.

[C]

Think mall putting a spring roll in your mouth was crazy. I don't think that's insecure.

[D]

That's for content.

[A]

That's for content.

[D]

And that wasn't like me. It's not like you was walking past that restaurant after we left here and you saw me feeding Baby D out the corner yard. Like, yo, that would have been crazy. That would have been crazy. We were filming content. It was content. Like, that's all it.

[C]

Now, I. I mean, I. I can't help that. Was naturally have cared in that situation if Damaris and I were dating. But I could see a man feeling away about that and him not.

[D]

I mean.

[A]

Well, you would have cared.

[C]

No, I really wouldn't have. About the content I'm being scared about. Weird. Not that content type, but I think there'd be plenty of men that would feel away about that, and I wouldn't label them as insecure.

[D]

Yeah, like, but you mean y'.

[C]

All. Y' all podcasts, Y'.

[D]

All.

[C]

Y' all not a food. Not a foodie channel. Like, that's not the content y' all make anyways.

[D]

Yeah, but we're a content company. We create content.

[A]

We create all types of content. Don't. Don't put us in a box.

[D]

We're multimedia.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

This is how you would pitch it. No, y' all are good. Y' all are good.

[D]

You've seen the llc. You've seen it. Yeah.

[C]

You've seen the llc.

[A]

The.

[D]

Nah, I've seen it.

[A]

Just text me like, damn, I miss. When you looked at my eyes like that.

[D]

Hey, that's what they was texting you.

[C]

Hey, that's kind of gay.

[D]

That's wild in those glances now. Yeah, that's. That's crazy. But no, Baby D. Yes, I would. I would have felt the way. If my woman got an elevator and smelled another man that was smelling good and then asked him, like, she did the. She said, that means she no see. No, no, no.

[C]

Wait. Did he answer?

[A]

He. So he looked at. He turned. Looked at her, looked at him, and then looked the man in his face and was like, I'm wearing Creed Queen of silk.

[D]

And he left the man in the face and told the man what he was wearing.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Nah, we gotta kill it. That's a fighting Glass, you got to kill him because.

[A]

No, because I think he was just kind of, like, awkward. Like, I'm not about to look you a in her face and tell her what I'm wearing. Like, I'm assume she's asking for you.

[C]

See, this is why I wear AirPods. I would just ignore that question. I'm not. I'm not trying to start the situation and break up.

[D]

I would say, yo, queen, I don't think your. Your king is comfortable with your ass.

[C]

Queen, I don't think you're king.

[D]

Yeah, I don't think.

[C]

But that makes the.

[A]

That makes it worse. That makes it so much worse. Small.

[D]

Yeah, but that's what I would have said. I'd have made. I'd have made y' all ride home uncomfortable.

[A]

It's uncomfortable.

[D]

Yeah. I made y' all ride home wild.

[C]

I would. I would have hit the fire.

[A]

And mind you, we was on, like, the 15th floor. We were all going to the lobby, so she asked on, like, the 12th floor.

[D]

Like, so y' all got mad floors.

[A]

Mad. It was just silent.

[C]

That shit would have been like fucking Q and Tupac in the elevator. And Juice. Like, dead silence, staring at each other.

[D]

What you gonna do?

[C]

Shooting. So what you gonna do, shoot me?

[D]

Yup. Yeah, absolutely.

[A]

I'm sure she meant, like, from an innocent standpoint, but she just was not. I don't think she was thinking. She wasn't thinking.

[D]

I remember I was with a girl on a date, like, years ago, and seven years. No, this was, like. This was way more than seven years ago. We was walking. We was right there by the garden, and we walking, and it was like two guys sitting down, and she walked over to one of the guys and was asking about the sneakers he was wearing. I ain't seen her since. I kept walking. Ma, I'm dead. Y' all think I'm joking. The funny is y' all think I'm joking. I'm dead.

[A]

You're not joking. Cause I know you.

[D]

She started walking. I thought she knew him. She's like, yo, where you get those from? Like, those is fire. Once I heard those is fire. She jumped on that D train so fast.

[C]

Maybe she's a sneaker head.

[D]

Yeah, she could be a sneaker head. Now she with her. Now they a sneakerhead couple. Now they a sneakerhead couple.

[C]

You always sneakerhead couples.

[D]

You gonna go up to some rain? Yo, them sneakers is fire. Where you get those at?

[C]

That's way more innocent than you smell. Amazing. What are you wearing?

[D]

Nah, we on a date.

[A]

Cause if you could smell me, you could taste me. You use both sentences together.

[D]

Yeah, but if she looking at his feet, and he probably, like, wore like a 15 or something.

[A]

If she looking at his feet, that mean he could beat.

[D]

Yeah, if she looking at his feet, she thinking about his meat. You know how it go. Don't they say that? Ain't that what they say?

[C]

Who says that? Who's that?

[A]

I ain't even gonna tell y' all what Mal in and said to me. Never mind. We ain't even gonna talk about it.

[D]

I walked in and said.

[A]

You walked in and said to me and Peas today, yo. But you asked Peas if he ever did, yo.

[D]

Nah, that's for us. That's for us.

[A]

That's. That's for us.

[D]

Netflix don't pay enough for that one.

[C]

Damn, I missed.

[D]

What happened?

[A]

Yeah, you missed.

[D]

I'll give it to you. I'll give you the ball. Don't worry about it. It's all good. I'll give you the ball. Wait till we wrap this up.

[C]

Sure.

[D]

We still here?

[C]

Fair enough.

[A]

How you saw my subtweet if you ain't got no Twitter?

[C]

Cuz I have the new Rory Moen.

[D]

He all on your timeline too.

[C]

Yeah, in my business. I'm about to get some of my views and opinions off on the new Rory Mall account.

[A]

They're gonna know it's you.

[D]

They gonna know it's worth for sure.

[C]

TMZ some more content.

[D]

Baby D, how was your Valentine's Day?

[A]

It was good.

[D]

You had a good time?

[C]

I don't like that tone.

[A]

I don't like you.

[D]

I was. I was. I was gonna text you, but I was like, nah, you know what? I ain't gonna text it tonight.

[A]

Cool. It didn't go. It didn't go the way it was originally planned to go, but it went fine regardless. It was cool.

[D]

It didn't go the way it was planned. Were you happy? Were you smiling?

[A]

I was fine.

[D]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Were you happy and were you smiling?

[A]

I was fine. I got all my gifts before Valentine's Day, so. On Valentine's Day. Like peach, though. I have been accepting packages every week. The week of Valentine's Day. By the time Valentine's Day came, I was. The only thing that got delivered to.

[D]

Me was like, your heart was full.

[A]

My heart was full. Heart was full. House was full of flowers. I was good.

[D]

Okay. Yeah.

[C]

It's better to give than to receive. Did you do anything for anyone on Valentine's Day?

[A]

I look like the type of Girl.

[D]

Do I look like that? Yo, first, don't do that. Because last week you was asking me mad, like, yo, Ma, would you. Would you. What you think about this? And I was like, no, that's fire. That's cool.

[A]

That's for, like, birthdays, and for Valentine's Day. I'm like, a card. I'm gonna give you a nice, heartfelt card.

[D]

Girl, give me a call for Valentine's Day. I ain't gonna hold you. Yo, if you my. If you my. I'm talking about, like, if we, like, really dating.

[A]

Oh, no, that's different. But I'm like. I said I'm single, so I don't. There's not. This Valentine's Day is, like, Draft Day. So niggas didn't impress me and tell me why they should continue to.

[D]

Yeah, the draft was in June.

[A]

Why they should make it into 2026. That's what Valentine's Day is for me. I'm single.

[D]

Draft Day, Draft Day. I thought it was just a day just to show love.

[C]

Competing on Valentine's Day. Y' all win. What? What? Offset. Say y' all won.

[D]

Yeah, I didn't know it was drafted. When did this. When did the draft start? In February.

[A]

It starts. It starts February 1st. I make cuts February 15th. You know, whether you made the team or not.

[C]

So do we think maybe we could set up the hats on your desk and you can, like, tease the first pick?

[D]

Like, what's. What city is he going to.

[C]

They trade for number one.

[D]

What city is he getting drafted to? Jesus Christ. Anyway, I did not know it was a draft. We have special guest today in the.

[A]

Building, Pam and Gina.

[D]

That is Pam and Gina over there. Pam. Y' all gonna be Pam and Gina today?

[C]

100.

[D]

Pam and Gina. It's good to see y'. All. Haven't seen y' all in a while. It's good to see y' all faces again.

[A]

It's nice to see you. Nice to see you, too.

[D]

Oh, no.

[C]

They're gonna know those voices.

[D]

Yeah. Yeah, they know. They know those voices in our streets. They know those.

[C]

Well, my Valentine's Day was great. If anyone.

[D]

Yes. How was yours, Rory?

[C]

I. I took. This is not an ad. I took Amara to Urban Dunes, which is like. Like a sand place in the city in the Upper east side.

[D]

Okay.

[C]

And, yeah, we had. We had a nice time. I got. I got duped by a DIY cookie place. I had this whole idea to make a cookie princess castle with Amara. I did the next day air $40 on Monday. Yeah, that shit still is. Saying delivered today, didn't deliver. Never happened. So other than that, it was good, though.

[D]

Amara had a good time.

[C]

Yeah, she did. She had no concept of Valentine's Day, though. She was running around saying happy Valentine's Day to everyone. No idea what it mean there.

[D]

That's okay. We don't know what it means. We're in whisper sand.

[C]

We just shut down Urban Dunes. Shut it down. Had the spot to ourselves.

[D]

Okay. Fire.

[C]

That's just cuz no one else was there. Kia was like, yo, you better book the appointment, too. I was like, ah, yeah, I guess you're right. It's Valentine.

[D]

Nobody's.

[C]

They said walking. I said, no, I have an appointment.

[D]

I said disappointment 48 hours ago.

[C]

But no, it was. It was a fun, fun Valentine's Day. You know, we. We created edible arrangements and stuff. You know, Listen, just. Just showing my daughter how to be treated.

[D]

That's dope.

[C]

Of course.

[A]

And now you got 16 years of excuses come Valentine's Day.

[C]

What do you mean?

[D]

Excuses for what?

[A]

Every girl he date. Oh, you know, I'm just with my daughter for Valentine's Day.

[D]

That's you, right? Yeah. What's wrong with that? Absolutely. To the day he died. To the day.

[C]

Excuse me.

[D]

Gina. Y' all got something to say? Y' all good over there?

[A]

Boo Boo, Stop dating.

[D]

He can't be with his daughter for Valentine's Day.

[A]

You can, but you still have to have somebody else. When you date somebody, it's a love day.

[D]

It's showing love.

[A]

Single father. He was with his daughter during the day.

[D]

Your single father, huh? You say you're single father.

[A]

The one I'm. I'm dating a single, or you're dating a single.

[D]

You're dating. Oh, he's okay.

[A]

That ain't her baby.

[D]

Okay, that okay. But he's not okay. But no, it threw me a baby.

[C]

Father that single is funny.

[D]

Like, oh, okay, yes. So he. He had his daughter for Valentine's Day.

[A]

He had her during the day, and then I was night, and you had.

[D]

Him at night, didn't you? Had him, didn't you, girl, I know you did.

[A]

So that's what Rory can do.

[D]

Okay.

[C]

I don't want to do like a.

[D]

A.

[C]

A Twitter topic back and forth, but I also feel like you should treat your baby mother well on Valentine's Day.

[D]

Absolutely.

[A]

You should.

[D]

If y'.

[A]

All.

[D]

If y' all are in a healthy.

[C]

Space, if you're co parenting well, why.

[A]

Yeah, no, there are.

[C]

You shouldn't show your daughter or son how to treat their mother. On Valentine's.

[A]

No, not if you're not dating their mother. No.

[C]

I'm not saying some romantic. But you should.

[A]

No, no, because we're not.

[C]

Valentine's Day is about love. It's not. We're just about.

[A]

We're not going to change. We're not going to change Valentine's Day. There's a reason that there's Cupid and all of this. Granted, people buy for their mothers, for their mothers for Valentine's Day because their mothers be single. That's why y' all be buying for your mother's. For mother for Valentine's Day because your mother's be single. When your mother is married, your father handles that or her husband handles that. Let me talk. There are. Now, granted, I'm very much take care of your baby mother. So the day she die, Mother's Day, Christmas, all that. Valentine's Day is not a, a, a holiday that you have to do something for your baby mother. It's not. If you want to get her something from your child, like, oh, Mommy, here, here's a little card. Happy Valentine's Day. That's fine. But the, the, the gifts and like that for your baby mother on Valentine's Day. No, if I was dating a man who had a baby mother, I'm not doing. We're not doing that. Mother's Day. Yeah, go hard for her. Her birthday. Yeah, go hard for her. Christmas. Yeah, go hard for her. She take care. Valentine's Day is my day, bro. I feel like that's fair.

[C]

No, I'm not saying block the whole day out, but you should do something nice for your child's mother for Valentine's Day.

[A]

Okay? That's your opinion.

[C]

I think that's even an example, whether you have a son or daughter of how they should be treated. I got my grandmother flowers every Valentine's Day till she died. Like, it's not always about significant other shit. It's love within your family. No.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

No.

[A]

I cannot wait till you get a girlfriend and you explain that to her. You explain to your new girlfriend that you are doing something special for your baby mother for Valentine's Day.

[D]

I mean, I'm not speaking for Rory, but if I have a, if I have a baby, baby mother. If you think that out on Valentine's Day, I wouldn't get my. Send my baby mother some flowers. Just flower. I'm not saying we got to do dinner and all. You think I wouldn't send flowers to her house?

[A]

Okay, I'm not mad at that. I'm not mad talking about is different.

[C]

I'm saying what Maul is saying.

[D]

He didn't say take on a date or nothing like that.

[A]

You say, show your child an example. What child? What example are you showing your child?

[C]

If you want to make something with your child to give to their mother from both of us, I don't think that's a crazy thing to do, especially if both parties are single in your co parenting.

[A]

Okay, that's.

[C]

But now, now, now, if. If this hypothetical has nothing to do with my situation, of course, if your child's mother is in a relationship, I would still want to respect that. If that would ruffle some feathers, then I would. I would not do that and respect what they have going on. But, yeah, if you co parenting with somebody in a healthy way, why wouldn't you do something nice for them on. On Valentine's Day?

[A]

Okay, but we weren't talking about that. We were talking about somebody who's in a relationship dating someone else.

[C]

Oh, you want to add that into the equation? Then that's a conversation that I would hope y' all probably had before any Valentine's Day came up.

[D]

Yeah, but I don't even think that even if my baby mother is in a relationship, like, sending her flowers, like, we have a child together, like, I'm forever. Like, yeah, like, that's like, the greatest gift ever. Like, happy Valentine's Day. That's all. I'm not trying to hang out and do dinner and all of that. Like, just send some flowers to the crib.

[A]

I feel like that's fair. I think it's unnecessary, but I feel like it's fair. And again, I'm not the. Don't do anything for your baby mother. I always advocate, like, you need to take care of your baby mother to the date that she does. But if you think it's inappropriate, if you think I just feel like Valentine's Day is a day. Yeah, you can do for your mom, sure. But I feel like Valentine's Day is a day for lovers. Like, that's. I just have always felt like that.

[D]

So I feel like baby mother to the day I die, it's my child's mother not in love. I may not be in love with her, but I'm going to love her for forever giving me a child. Like, are you. What? Like, nobody's coming in between that?

[A]

Nope. Okay.

[C]

All right. What if both of y' all are in separate relationships? Who watches the kid on the 14th?

[A]

I feel like y' all probably don't. Y' all probably organize that. Y' all Organize that.

[C]

And you probably switch Valentine's Day. So why can't I just send some flowers?

[A]

Do your thing.

[D]

Rory, do you think I'm not.

[C]

Do my thing? I'm not doing your thing.

[A]

I just. I don't know. I just. I don't know. I just feel like that's just. I can understand why someone dating someone doing that could feel away about that. Because like I said, go hard for Mother's Day, go hard for Christmas, go hard for everything. But you don't. Valentine's Day is my day.

[C]

I'm trying to think how we can disagree.

[D]

So Mother's dating my child's mother.

[A]

Mothers that want you to go hard for her, buy her, do whatever the you need to do because women deserve it. They.

[D]

But Valentine's Day, it's just.

[A]

It's a day for the person you're in a relationship with. I feel like that's fair. I don't feel like that's selfish at all. Okay. Okay.

[C]

All right. If you're dating a woman with kids, do you step back on Mother's Day or do you.

[A]

No, no. Why would you do that?

[D]

What day we get off?

[A]

I just gave you February 14th in one month.

[D]

So now do you get President's Day off?

[A]

No. Cause I'm here at work on President's Day.

[D]

I gotta send you dead presidents on President's Day, Right? That's what you want to.

[A]

Actually, I'm waiting for it to hit my account.

[D]

You gotta send your baby mom dead presidents on President's Day. We don't get a God damn goddamn 47.

[C]

I know know you get some George Washington, but. All right, so I should step back if I'm dating a woman with children on Mother's Day and let the father do that?

[A]

I never said that.

[C]

No, so I. But I don't want to overstep, cuz you're saying that the father should celebrate his baby mother. Should I step back?

[A]

No. Why? You can't be celebrated by more than one person.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

Yeah. I'm just asking if you're dating. If you're dating a mother, you should get her something for Mother's Day.

[C]

I agree with you. Yeah, but that's not. She's not the mother.

[D]

All right, cool.

[C]

I just see some contradiction. Everything.

[A]

There's no. There's no contradiction. It's Mother Lover's Day and then Mother's Day. Mother's Day you buy for all mothers that you know or that you feel important enough about. Like if it was Mother's Day, y' all would get Me something for Mother's Day. Y' all didn't get me for Valentine's Day. Why is that? Cuz I'm not y' all love, right? Exactly. Exactly. So don't act like you're confused about what I'm.

[C]

Your heart was already full. I didn't. I didn't want it to spill over.

[D]

I fed you spring rolls on Val Valentine's Day. First of all, I fed you.

[A]

You gave. First of all, you only gave me that bite. You didn't even give me the rest of the spring roll. Like, if we really want to talk about some behind the scenes mall gave me that bite of spring roll, and it ate the rest of the spring roll.

[C]

That's even more intimate, in my opinion.

[D]

It was fire. That was fire. I was gonna let you know I.

[A]

Was busting them shits down.

[D]

I was hungry. God damn. I'm sorry, man. It is what it is.

[C]

If I was the marriage of the man, that would actually be the one thing I would have a problem with. Like. Nah, it's just spring roll now.

[D]

That's hers.

[C]

Yeah. Why I'm all trying to bust it down after.

[A]

I mean, he wanted to taste with my, you know, saliva tasted like.

[D]

I did not see baby D. N. That's why they think that add to this narrative.

[A]

I'm sorry.

[D]

See baby D. You gonna add to it. They gonna clip that and that's gonna be everywhere. And your phone gonna start ringing.

[A]

No, your phone gonna start ringing. My hoes don't question.

[D]

I answer my phone. I got two. Hello. Hello. And hello. What happened? What? Yeah, I'm that don't call me with the. Yeah, I'm with all of that.

[C]

You heard the master. My hoes don't question me.

[D]

My bad.

[C]

Too short.

[D]

I didn't know the marriage get questioned. I. I'm not listening.

[C]

That's why she had to tweet that sh.

[D]

Go to the timeline and start popping her pop. I already know. Let me see that phone. Let me see them text messages.

[A]

I'll show them to you. Ain't questioned me in years.

[C]

You lying.

[D]

I know. Just questioned you Saturday night.

[A]

No worrying now.

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[A]

What is you talking about?

[D]

All right, never mind. Listen, man. Russell speaking of love.

[C]

Speaking of love.

[D]

Yeah, the Russell expressed his love for Lil Wayne over the weekend and everybody went crazy. What did you think about the comments first? Because I know that you, you have a little. This is your little I got you get back moment for LaRusso because the Russell had some things to say in regards to your comments about Dochi a few months ago. So I'm giving the floor to you, Roy, because I know you want this ISO.

[C]

No, no, no, no. I'm just saying LaRussell, who we've supported since the backyard, that's Hovain, was working with him. Rest in peace. To my dear friend Ovain, the guy that we have always, always supported.

[D]

Absolutely.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

There. There was once upon a time when I was being killed by the Internet the first time. Second one was a little rougher. I would have understood if LaRussell chomped in on the second on that one. But when I was getting killed for out of context, AKA Peach, clipping something up. Comments about do being on stage with Lauryn Hill. La Russell, who I thought was a friend, who I thought was an ally.

[D]

You thought LaRussell was an ally and nothing but supportive.

[C]

We tried to fly to his backyard in 2020 years ago in Covid.

[D]

Now I can't even get a ticket.

[C]

Now he had tweeted an out of context clip. Dochi is one of the greats. You know I can't read that. Damaris.

[D]

I'll read it for you.

[C]

It's that. Look at that fine print I got you.

[D]

Oh wait, that J. Coles.

[C]

Who's J.

[D]

Dread? Was that.

[C]

Did that go up on the screen? Peach, can we keep all that, please?

[D]

That was J. Cole Dread. Why you still got J. Cole's dread, man? What's wrong with you, dog?

[C]

I'm still doing voodoo.

[D]

LaRusso tweeted dochi is one of the greats Facts. It's never too early to recognize greatness. There's no such thing as premature flower giving. She's great and doing great things. She's. She not just tight. She gets it it. She not just tight. She gets it. Okay. She putting something new in the pot. She loves the art. She be smiling and enjoying her journey. Get off her dick. And and to that you say Rory.

[C]

Yo. Get off Wayne Dick bro. Russell, I love you. I really didn't take this this offensive at all but I did think it was kind of of nuts of the pile on of you. You know my how I've even spoken about your music. This was out of context. I've been a Dochi fan forever champion her for quite some time. We were talking about a separate topic with Lauryn Hill and then I got, I don't know angled into this position that I was a do hater. Called her industry plant all the I never did and then you adding on to it. Well welcome buddy. This is what happens when you comment on hip hop and you think things get taken out of context. Context. Come on over and sit right next to me.

[D]

You're more than welcome to come up here and talk about this. That you said about Wayne. What exactly what exactly did he say?

[C]

And And I'm joking LaRussell. You know I with you. I'm really just joking around. He he was on a podcast and Wayne was was brought up and he was talking about how much Wayne was one of his favorite rappers till he got a little older and started listening more more to Wayne's lyrics and realized like he really wasn't saying a lot of. There wasn't a lot of substance in.

[D]

In what which is what Wayne has. Wayne has said that about his own music and his bars.

[C]

So I thought that was a a fair point for any fan to give even if I disagree with it because I do think Wayne does have a lot of substance in his music. But the amount of music he put out I could see the percentage balance being different of non substance versus substance but Wayne has substance. But I understand what the Russell's saying. Like when I went back and listened to Marshall Mathers lp. Is there substance on there? Sure. But I outgrew a lot of my Eminem love. Like this is just not for me when I get older. I don't think what he said was nuts. Now as someone that has also handled backlash very poorly sometimes don't walk down a hill and explain yourself.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

That's all I'm saying.

[D]

The Russell. We love you up here.

[C]

Sometimes you didn't say anything really that nuts. And I don't think there's a campaign behind getting you out of the paint. While that does exist and it's happened to all of us, everyone in this room actually. I can say for a fact there's been money of trying to get us out the paint. But sometimes when all the blogs post at the same time with the same narrative, it's because they're lazy. It's not because somebody's paying them.

[D]

Yeah, two things can be true.

[C]

A lot of times they just need content for the day. They're on a 24 hour news cycle and if they see one outlet post, post it, it's just going to be a waterfall the same because they, they see you're getting traction on this.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

Sometimes nobody's paying.

[D]

Right.

[C]

Sometimes that, that you're just the headline for the day. But I feel them. I know what it's like to feel like somebody now. Somebody has to be behind the scenes doing this.

[D]

Somebody did this. What Fab said somebody.

[C]

Somebody.

[A]

Somebody did this.

[D]

Somebody did this. When you wake up, boy, your phone going off and all types of blogs is clipping something you said. And then now you're an artist yourself, you start feeling like, oh man, they taking what I said out of context. I didn't mean it like that. As somebody who has been taken out of context plenty of times, let me just say the best thing to do sometimes is just shut the up. Don't explain yourself. Because no matter how much that's like if you go outside Rory, and you wear some wax and the homie starts snapping on, you can't go upstairs and change.

[C]

Yeah, don't.

[D]

You can't go change.

[C]

Don't go upstairs and go on Twitter spaces.

[D]

Yeah, you can't do that. You gotta just be like, you know what? All right, I gotta just sit through this. It'll be over. It'll blow over in the minute. But you can't try to like explain and then, you know, post videos about, you know, this being a. What the Internet does and they clip things and they get behind it and they push a narrative thing. Yes, that, that does happen. But a lot of other times it's just. No, you said something that people felt was a little, you know, like, oh, that's a little, A little, you know, rough to say about Wayne. But the only thing that I didn't understand why people were killing Russell is because Wayne has said that out his own mouth.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

That his subs. He's like, I don't really be you know what I'm saying? He was like, yo, even had a clip that who, who used that clip from when he was like, I need a subject, I need a predicate. He said, what did you do? Just go in the studio with clips like it just like basically like all that subject what I'm talking about. Just get bars, get a beat and just bar down. Like Wayne has said that out his own mouth. So I don't know why people were killing the Russell for just kind of picking up on that and listening to the music Music.

[C]

Because I think there's a lot of Wayne fans out there that actually think that Wayne has a lot of substance and hearing that from somebody. And this, this is also why I like artists getting into the podcast game. Cuz y' all killed us forever having an opinion. You guys do the same thing and they tear apart every last word you've ever done. They pulled up every bad LaRussell lyric of all time. LaRussell has probably done that in his head with with podcasters that have said negative things about him like or doi.

[D]

See how that works?

[C]

It's just funny now when you're on this side.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

Of like n. This isn't really what I said. Like not Wayne backtracking to say Wayne's a goat, bro.

[D]

I, I, I understand Russell. See what happens. See what happens. Soon as you leave the pagola, this is what happens. As soon as you leave the crib on your ass, they start taking.

[C]

Now you walking downhill for six minutes.

[D]

Yeah, I know you getting your cardio with but you gonna get these balls too.

[A]

And the, and the, the, the backlash. The content. I mean the context that you provide never gets goes viral the way that the original viral. The context of no I actually love Drake and sexy songs for you never goes viral the way to no disrespect us.

[D]

Oh they don't care about they don't about that.

[C]

They would never pull up all all the clips for me from 2017 saying, Yo, DOI's the one you don't want to hear that.

[D]

Oh, next negative. Let's talk negative about each other. That rapper like that's gonna go viral. Him her.

[C]

It was clip.

[D]

She's a plant.

[C]

They was clipping the end of an amazing LA Russell LA leakers freestyle. Just the end. When he said some like I'm a dog like he was. You could tell he was missed everything. His freestyle.

[D]

Yeah. Just a throwaway ball.

[C]

Forget the three minutes that was before that.

[D]

That means nothing.

[C]

It means this is who you are now.

[A]

They were clipping bad Sci High lyrics over the weekend, too, which is like.

[D]

What about one of the greatest lyricists, period? What they were saying about Saha Sa.

[A]

Some terrible lyric that they clipped. But because he was coming out.

[D]

You know how much digging you got to do to find a bad Saha lyric? Like a bar.

[A]

What the was that? Bar Peach. Do you know what it was? It was bad.

[D]

Oh, was digging.

[A]

They was like, nah. But if little. They was like, if Big Sean. If Big Sean rapped this, y' all would kill him. I was. It was very funny.

[D]

Now you know what's going to happen as a result of this?

[A]

What?

[D]

LaRussell and Wayne will have a song by the end of the week, probably. Oh, yeah, that's. That's the type of guy Wayne is. Wayne is like, yo, listen, man. Like, let's just get some shit. Like, you know what I'm saying? Whatever you want to. You want substance. What we rapping about? And then he gonna out. Out rap LaRussell on a beat. You know how that go.

[C]

All right, well, let's get to his actual comments. Cause I know you're a Wayne hater, and Damaris and I love you.

[D]

I'm a Wayne hater. See, Paint the narrative, white boy.

[C]

Nah, this is. This isn't anything. That's a narrative that I have to paint. This is a Mona Lisa of rap opinions when it comes to you.

[D]

Okay?

[C]

Like, this is the two fingers touching on the same ceiling.

[D]

You, me, and Wayne.

[C]

You are a Wayne hater.

[D]

No. How am I Wayne hater?

[C]

So do you agree with what he said? I don't think we should kill the Russell for what he said. I think he's entitled to any opinion he has on rap. And there's definitely been times where I feel like Wayne's not saying a thing, but I think it's unfair. And sometimes you just be talking. I can attest to that. Ten years of doing this. Sometimes you just be saying. And then you get off the mic and go, damn. Now I think about it. I actually don't think that way. So I'm. I'm not putting this against LaRussell at all. But it is kind of wild to say that Wayne has no substance. That's nuts.

[D]

Well, no. Yes. It's because Wayne has real songs where, you know, obviously, like, he's talking about. I. I'm thinking what the Russell was saying is, like you said, the volume of Wayne songs and Wayne verses. Maybe he. That's what he's more so talking to, like, out of his output, like, a lot of it lacks substance. A lot of it is just bars. It's just Wayne rapping each a like cold pizza. You know, he's the. He's the. He's the coochie monster. You know what I'm saying? Like, that's.

[C]

That's okay. But if you get into the substance of that, Wayne was probably one of the first rappers to. To admit eating was cool. Because a lot of rappers used to lie. They would never do that. They was on Jamaican time. We just gonna lie and say we don't eat. Wayne was the first one to start doing R B ballads as a rapper of saying all I do is eat. And that brought a whole new wave in.

[D]

Nah, I think we gotta go. Probably go to LL for that. LL just did it in a more a slicker way. He didn't say okay. He said pink cookies in a plastic bag and crushed by the buildings like that, you know, substance.

[C]

It was just a little.

[D]

There was a different way of saying is all I'm saying. Wayne was probably the worst. That was just as raw. But then you gotta Uncle Luke in them. If you want to talk about just raw lyrics eating, you got to go to uncle.

[C]

Yeah. But Wayne was talking about eating in like, almost a romantic way. Uncle Luke and them was just running through these hoes.

[D]

Oh, yeah. Well, it was a different time back then.

[C]

Wayne made it like in the late 80s, early 90s. He was singing about eating like superheads in, like, this is my wife type way, which I think ushered in a whole new era. Now, I do get what LaRusso is saying as far as some of the. The lyrics Wayne had were not the best for the community. But I mean, once you open that door, where do we draw the line with rappers? Like, yes. Was did Wayne maybe make being a blood trendy to suburban kids cool? But if you became a blood because Lil Wayne became one.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

You were gonna fall for anything. Yeah, yeah.

[D]

You took all of it.

[C]

So I don't. I don't really know if that ruins. Ruined the community because those people that wanted to become blood because of Lil Wayne would have fallen for fentanyl for anything.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

On earth. They would have fallen for.

[D]

Absolutely.

[C]

So I hear him, but as opposed to what rapper?

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

As far as negative goes, Russell, man, just come on.

[D]

Come up here, man, and we could just talk about Wayne. Let me and Russell. Russell just talk about wayne for about 45 minutes. Let's just have a Wayne conversation, me and Le Russell. Because I think we kind of like, hear the same things a little bit.

[A]

Well, you have one on our Patreon. They kind of. They eating you up about your Wayne vs. Ross take?

[C]

No, we're gonna settle it because I.

[D]

Settle it this week because I said Ross has better albums. He makes better albums.

[C]

You change.

[A]

He keep that goal post.

[C]

Patreon.com forward/newroyanwall. Go check out that conversation.

[D]

I didn't say he makes that conversation.

[C]

Mid episode because we said catalog, and then you was like, nah, albums now.

[D]

Yeah, but y' all like to. Y' all like to pull in mixtapes. Like, and Ross has crazy mixtapes too, so we. I don't want Seem like the highlight.

[C]

Of the dipset in locks verses was Kiss doing a mixtape freestyle.

[D]

Did I not say Ross makes better music? Exactly.

[C]

You think he has more substance?

[D]

I mean. Yes. Yes, I do. Nah, I do. I feel that way.

[C]

No, Ross has substance. I'm not here to ever say Ross.

[D]

Wayne does too. But I think Ross has more.

[C]

More food groups.

[D]

Maybe. Maybe it's still something. No matter how you want to slice that.

[C]

If I'm at Tao, like, yeah, there's a lot.

[D]

No matter how you want to slice.

[C]

It, if I'm at Ocean Prime.

[D]

Yes. But my feeling was Ross has better music. He makes better music than Wayne, and I do feel like that. Not saying Wayne doesn't make good music. I'm saying Ross. To me. To me.

[C]

We're gonna settle it on Patreon this week.

[D]

To me makes better music than Wayne.

[C]

I cannot wait because we. I feel like Covid kind of owes us one when we did the Fab mixtape Wayne mixtape battle on IG Live.

[A]

No.

[C]

We gonna shut the streets down again. Gonna do Ross and Wayne.

[D]

All right, well, let's do it.

[C]

I hate the Internet because this is the. This is the bar you were talking about. Damaris. Yeah. I always love this Saha bar. I always love this bar.

[D]

I met this girl on Valentine's Day in May. She found out about April, so she chose to march.

[C]

And how he delivered it was fire.

[D]

Yeah. Like, see, that's when she don't know the cadence. They don't know the beat.

[C]

They dropped the beat right at. Chose to march. Like, nah, this bar worked.

[D]

We're not doing that to Saha.

[A]

I didn't do it.

[D]

We're not doing that.

[C]

One of the greatest lyricists of all time.

[D]

Yeah, we not doing that. I get. And that Piff posted that. What they trying to say, hey, Saha, don't send them no more. Your music, man. That's it. Didn't they?

[C]

All right. I guess it's maybe trash because like he just has this time is a construct designed by.

[A]

Oh, Jesus.

[C]

A certain community. But I guess maybe because he was gallant and he met her Valentine Day, waited till May. That's a gentleman. What did she find out about in April, though? Because that would be.

[D]

She found out about April.

[A]

She found out about April. April, the girl.

[C]

Yeah. That's the hardest bar of all time.

[D]

I love it.

[A]

That's what's up.

[C]

Maybe it went over your head. Nah, some.

[D]

Some people that's. That's what it does. It goes overheads and then they say you whack because they didn't get it.

[C]

This. This is going to be a rough episode. I. I stand with LaRusso. I. I love you, Larry Russell. I have to prence this entire thing because I'm about to stand with Vlad as well.

[A]

That don't never stand with you, though.

[C]

Of course not. Nor do I give a Yo, is the Internet where. Where do we even begin on this one? I already knew that I should have gotten off Twitter to begin with, but this was just a reassurance that this is. The Internet is just not a place for me anymore. I knew everybody was the R word on them, but this is like a new level of that entire thing. Like reputable. Like not news outlets, but people that are respected on the Internet. That cover news covered this as if this was real.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

Vlad had tweeted out. I have a confession. Roc Nation has been paying me to support Megan. They also paid off the jury members to convict Tori. And then they bribed the judge to. Jay Z did a verse for his grandson's new album. They paid off Megan's doctor to lie about the bullet fragments when she was never shot. The LA PD are all on Jay's payroll. And it doesn't stop with la. But you're not ready to hear that part. Can you make this a little bit bigger, Damaris? Because I cannot read. Read small print like that. The Mexican guy who stabbed Tory, who do you think paid him to do that? If you guys look, he had the same last name as Desiree Perez, but they were completely different ethnicities. So it was definitely her cousin. But you already know the answer to that. The three Supreme Court judges who denied Tory's appeal all paid off by Rock Mafia. Jay Z also paid Trump not to pardon Tory, even though it's a state case. Trump can only pardon pardon federal cases. But we know Trump. He gets a little dicey and weird.

[D]

Yeah, he crosses.

[C]

He likes to bend the rules. Yeah, so hov wasn't going to take chances on that because HOV is definitely waking up every day thinking about Tory Lanez. I can't keep these lies a secret anymore. If this is my last tweet, you know who silenced me?

[D]

Sean Carter.

[C]

I thought this was a hilarious tweet by Vlad because we've kind of echoed a lot of this, too, with the Tory situation. And I've said that army generals should study what Tory's PR team has done to convince the world that he is innocent. It has been a masterclass in PR that there is a huge part of the Internet that like, fully, fully believes that everything Vlad said I thought was fucking hilarious. And I thought maybe would put things in a context of why a lot of us do think Tory Lanez is guilty. Because these steps, not to say there's not corruption in the judicial system, right? But the steps that would have to go through, that I can promise you HOV and DEZ don't care this much, is absolutely insane to think about. Now, the Internet took that as Vlad giving a confession. They treated this like the Epstein files, which Jay Z is in, and is the. The number one culprit. Everyone knows that Epstein and Jay, best friends, right? There was legitimate think pieces from people that are on the news that this was a legitimate tweet.

[A]

We're in a literacy crisis.

[D]

That too.

[C]

I know this is a very minuscule thing, but it is a perfect metaphor of how the Internet is really ruining the entire world.

[D]

I just think that.

[C]

How do you interpret. How did. How did AI put a community note of sarcasm? How can AI pick up on sarcasm before a human. Human being?

[D]

Because people don't want to pick up on sarcasm. People are just looking for their thoughts and the things that they think about people to be true. They're looking for validation of their thoughts and their ideas. So when they see the first sign of that, instead of really thinking, it's like, ah, I knew it. I told you. Same I've been saying is, no, nobody is. That's not what it is. And, you know, people don't understand satire. They don't understand sarcasm. You know, they don't understand what. Somebody is basically putting a mirror in front of you to show you how stupid you look and sound. And that's what Vlad did with this tweet. I mean, he was just showing people.

[C]

In a perfect way, right?

[D]

He was showing people just how, you know, silly some of your ideas are and how outlandish some of the things that you people believe really are. And I thought that was a cool way to kind of get the Internet going and to just expose the people that. That, like you said, really don't understand. Don't comprehend what's happening. Don't understand tone, don't understand again, satire and things like that. I thought that was a dope way to do it.

[C]

And of course, I looked at all the comments just because I'm curious. And the amount of people that were trying to tell the barbs. What's Tory Lanez's hive called?

[A]

No idea.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

No idea. I don't even think they have one.

[C]

The Laneses, all of them were. Everyone was trying to explain to them that this was sarcasm. And their reply to everything was, well, two things can be true. And I think Vlad is really trying to tell us something.

[D]

Oh, no. No matter what. Don't get it twisted.

[C]

No, they thought we were stupid.

[D]

Yeah. No matter what.

[C]

It was like, no. You realize Vlad is really trying to tell you something. He's disguising it with sarcasm because this is actually true.

[D]

Yeah. I just think that it's just funny that people. To see people in those comments and really like, you know, believing that and thinking that, you know, finally, you know, the things we've been saying are valid. And we knew that Jay Z was this guy that was paying all these people and he's a creep. And we knew that Roc Nation would crumble. And this, that. And this is like, can we just like just. Just a little bit. Can we just use a little common sense? We can. You can have your own ideas. You can think what you want to think about people. But just sprinkle in a little bit of common sense.

[C]

And listen, I'm with y', all with Kelsey's bodyguard that wasn't there coming to the stand.

[A]

Cuz that's where that came from. First of all, that's a old clip.

[C]

And then very old. That. That's the funniest part. That clip is old.

[A]

Vlad said something about it telling people like, it's old. And he wasn't even. They was like his. Her bodyguard that wasn't bodyguarding her at the time. And that's when they started saying like, oh, Roc Nation is paying you. And that's where this tweet.

[D]

But it really is scary to know that you are on a platform with people who think like that. And then you wonder why, you know, again, to what LaRussell said, even that is kind of in this too. It's like, you know what LaRussell may have been saying? He wasn't trying to throw shade at Wayne. They missed the whole Part where he was praising Wayne and saying Wayne is dope and one of the greatest rappers ever. They missed all of that. But this is essentially what social media is. It's people that just want to find and clip whatever it is that may give validity to their narratives that they create. And that's what this is. It's like no matter what, like you said, even though now everybody knows that Vlad was just, you know, making people look stupid. Two things can be true. Vlad is just saying that because now they're gonna say Jay called Vlad and made him say that he was just joking. Like then it turns into to that oh nah, he wasn't joking. They Roc Nation reached out to him and they threatened him. And this down the third.

[A]

Why do people think Jay is so involved in.

[D]

I don't know.

[A]

That is over there being a stay at home dad to three saying people.

[C]

Even though too much credit they give. Definitely biased.

[D]

Not saying JC doesn't have power and doesn't have. Yeah, it's just like come on man. Like it's not what you people think it is. It's, it's, it's really not. Some things are just exactly what they are. There's no conspiracy behind a lot of things. There is. Conspiracy is real. But a lot of the times it's not a part of which I think it is.

[C]

Do we even want to get into All Star Weekend?

[D]

We can. Yeah, let's do it.

[C]

The new format. Cool. I guess. Whatever. Get rid of the dunk contest, yo. Bring it to YouTube.

[D]

Bring the dunk contest to YouTube.

[C]

Yeah, YouTube dunkers. Come on, let's get.

[D]

Oh, YouTube dunkers.

[C]

Let's get. I don't need to watch NBA players do the show anymore. And I also don't want to see someone almost break their back live on TV. Just go to the YouTubers, man. They brought homie up from the magic and made them a player just for one week.

[D]

Do that again.

[C]

Yeah, I, I, I, we're here for entertainment. I, I don't need to see.

[D]

It's it's but it's been tre. It's been trending this way for a few years though with All Star Saturday, the three point contest. Three point contest has become the highlight of All Star Saturday. People don't even care about the dunk contest.

[C]

I mean allar.

[D]

But this, this year, even the three point contest was a little, little bit lack it Just the energy around the NBA All Star weekend is slowly tapering and fading into the lane of the Pro bowl. Of the NFL Pro Bowl. I don't know anybody that's ever said, yo, I'm going upstairs. The Pro bowl is on. I've never heard that. I've never heard anybody say the.

[C]

I used to like. I used to like the. Their. Their version of skills challenges like the Pro bowl when they would do quarterbacks throwing how far they could throw the ball, receivers would catch. Like there used to be fun skills day with Pro bowl, but nobody's trying to watch that.

[D]

Nobody watched the Pro bowl and they.

[C]

Even tried to put it at. Was it the week before the super bowl. And then they moved it to the end so more players could be. And it still tanked. But that. That's different because that's such a physical sport. Like, I'm not about to just go outside for play play with football because we saw what like Sean Taylor did to a punch punter that was just. He's playing around. He was about to punt. He's like, no, it's a fake. And then Sean Taylor came in at a 424240 speed.

[D]

Yeah, this ain't.

[C]

And took his head off.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

Yeah. I just don't know if that's the same way, but I don't know. I could do without All Star Weekend now, which is very sad to say.

[D]

It is, man. You know, I think the NBA gotta find some. The format of the actual All Star game wasn't too mad at.

[C]

I wasn't mad at that either.

[D]

Different. Different team World versus Team USA and then Team USA being split into, you know, the veterans and then a lot of the younger guys. As an American, though, wasn't mad at that. Did you feel a little out as an American? No, I felt proud. I was. I cried.

[C]

No, I'm glad that Stars and Stripes were in the finals, but. Yeah, this is getting. This is getting a little ridiculous. The fact that we even can have this many international players, that there's a squad. Nobody's a little mad that the whites are infiltrating the way they are. I'm the only one.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

We sent the whites packing though. Get them the out of here. Since right back to the lie. Luca Jokic. All y' all get the out of here. Yeah.

[C]

Nah. Womena was. Was punting basketball.

[D]

Wimby is clearly trying to. Trying to make a claim to be the best player in the league once.

[C]

You know that international squad. Look, I'm actually. I cannot believe they lost.

[D]

And to be fair, Luca was. Didn't play much. Jokic didn't play much. Don't give a. Yeah. Giannis didn't play at all. Like so you know, their, their guys were not really playing. But, but if you put that four.

[C]

If you put that five, five. And they really play, I think the international team is winning.

[D]

Lucan on guard, man. Luka don't play no defense.

[C]

Look who you have next to him. He doesn't need, he doesn't need to play defense.

[D]

He don't guard nobody, man. Great game. I love his game, but he don't guard nobody. I'm always going to take team the best in Team USA with healthy Steph Curry, LeBron, Jaylen Brown, Kawhi. I, you know, give me those guys and, and, and I'm cool. Team World look good, but I, I just don't. I just think it's different with a healthy.

[C]

That's a serious game that I think that goes a different way.

[D]

I like the format though. I wasn't mad at the format. But all star Saturday they need to do something with the skills challenge with three point contest. Dunk contest. The dunk contest can go. Let's just, let's just be honest.

[C]

Which is crazy cuz that's the, that was the draw. That's the main event.

[D]

It used to be people used to.

[C]

Say yo, the skills challenge and even the three point contest can, can, can go.

[D]

I've seen some people wanting to bring them one one on one.

[C]

The girls did it. Y' all here looking. The women did one on one.

[D]

It's different for the guys. I'm gonna tell you why. Because male ego. Well, yes, but if I'm a signature shoe athlete, if I'm a Nike athlete, I have my signature shoe and I enter the one on one contest and I get smoked. That looks bad for the ran. Like that looks bad. And nobody's beating Kyrie. If Kyrie wants to be in a one on one contest every year, nobody's beating Ky.

[C]

Very tough.

[D]

Like, let's just put that out there. He would win every year.

[C]

But I think would be a good matchup with him. I, I would take Kyrie, but I think Dane would be a good matchup.

[D]

Nobody's beating Kyrie 101, bro.

[C]

He has the best handle I've ever seen.

[D]

Nobody beat Kyrie. Yeah. So I, I just think that brands, I think Nike would be apprehensive now. If you put guys in that don't have a significant signature shoe and say the winner gets a signature shoe from Nike or Adidas, I think that makes it interesting.

[C]

Do you think that's why superstars haven't been in the dunk contest the way they were with when Jordan was in it or Vince Carter was in it. Because now if Kobe rest in peace or Bron, like now you're. If you don't show out the way events or Mike did, does that kind of deflate the brand a little bit?

[D]

Not the brand.

[C]

Jumpman really came from the dunk concept.

[D]

Yeah. But I think the dunk contest, I think a lot of guys, that stage of being out there All Star Saturday night by yourself and trying to be creative, and it's a lot of pressure and I think a lot of guys shy away from that. They don't want that big of a stage for themselves. I think that can be. It's like now I gotta think of some shit to do that they haven't seen. We've had what, how many dunk 40 something dunk contests maybe.

[A]

And.

[D]

And now I'm trying to think of a cool way to do something that they haven't seen. It's a lot of pressure on an athlete.

[C]

It's a different era. Like, I would even give Bron, like a lot of grace in that regard. This era of dunk contest, like, I've never even looked at LeBron, like that type of dunker where it's gotten. Like when Vince was doing the shit, I would feel like Bron would have to be there if he was in that era. But yeah, now the shit is you have to be so creative outside of this dunk contest. They literally just dunked the ball. But I hear you. I don't think superstars in this era need to do this shit. Maybe that's the problem.

[D]

I think that stage, that, that stage of being out there alone is a lot for a lot of players and they don't want that, that, that pressure on them to go out there and, you know, entertain. Like, I'd rather play in the game. Three point contest a little different. I just gotta shoot. It's not much creativity in just shooting through.

[C]

I think if, if the superstars, like, sponsored some of the YouTube dunking, like the way Tracy McGrady was, was throwing alley oops to Vince Carter. Like if Bron finds his favorite YouTube dunker and he's the one throwing the alley oops, like he's involved on the court with him. I think that brings in the element of creative dunks. And you still get the All Stars that are out there.

[D]

Yeah, they gotta find something.

[C]

I think that could be kind of cool.

[D]

I think it's. I think it's over for the dunk contest. So I think we get it out of here. Let a few years go by, you know, find something else to kind of, you know, implement in that spot. But I'm cool. I don't need to see another dunk contest. I'm cool.

[C]

That's fair.

[D]

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[D]

Rory, I'm here. I'm here to talk about.

[C]

You've been here the whole time.

[D]

Brent fires new album Icon I'm here to stir up the Internet. I'm here to get y' all riled up in the studio. I don't care who gets mad.

[C]

Are you trying to go viral?

[D]

No, I'm not trying to go viral, they say. But I think it may go viral. I'm here to have the Brent being a better. Okay, let me not say better.

[C]

Can we start with Icon before before we get to what you said off mic that we will get to Brent Fire's Icon.

[D]

Incredible, incredible album and I have not stopped listening to it. That's All I listen to all weekend. I love the fact that it was only 35 minutes. I like that he not trying to get him sexy all out for an hour and 47 minutes. He ain't doing. They not playing that game. I'm gonna get y' all these 10 joints and I'm getting out of here. I'm getting out y' all way.

[C]

Okay, this incredible.

[D]

I saw Damaris in the group text talking about, eh, when Rory said, I don't know what the Internet. What was the Internet saying about the album?

[C]

And outside of what happened with Vlad and me finding out the Internet is the R word. When I went and listened to that Brent album after I watched with Twitter, maybe I need to change my algorithms. Because the way they were talking about this Brent album, I was like, damn. Not damn. My guy didn't deliver. I'm about to step out there and say it may be the best Brent album, period.

[D]

Wait, they saying he didn't deliver on this one.

[A]

So a lot of people were disappointed.

[C]

So good.

[D]

I'm almost too good.

[A]

A lot of people were disappointed, and I can understand why they were disappointed. And it's because Brent is known for a particular niche in his music, and that niche is toxicity. Hardcore toxicity. This album did not have the hardcore Brent toxicity that they're used to.

[C]

Well, sometimes you need to reflect and realize that you're looking for love in all the wrong faces.

[A]

No, that's what's up. But the narrative that I did see a lot of people say is that. That, you know, you do have to have a niche or a gimmick when you're not that vocally talented. Brent is not a song. What's the male version of Songstress? But he's not. He's not. He doesn't have strong vocals. So it's like you're known for this and then you switch. So you're now singing.

[D]

A lot of these niggas ain't got strong vocals. That n't got strong vocals.

[A]

Yeah, very true.

[D]

I'm talking about the music. It's the music, baby. The music.

[A]

Okay?

[C]

And see, this is why you can never please fans. And that's hypocritical coming from us because we're very critical of our artist. But everyone says Brent is a one trick pony, switches up the production and carries it with his vocals. Because I agree with you. I don't even think Brent would say he's the strongest vocalist. He's a vibe and a lyricist.

[D]

He's a.

[C]

He's what they call a crooner.

[D]

He's a crooner.

[C]

Who else is a crooner?

[A]

Give me another example.

[D]

A crooner.

[A]

Trey Songz.

[C]

Trey songs.

[D]

Trey would be considered a crooner. He would be considered a crooner. It's a few crooners out there.

[A]

R. Kelly is a crooner.

[D]

No, R. Kelly's a. No, no, no, no, no.

[A]

We've had this argument before.

[D]

R. Kelly can sing. We doing that.

[A]

We're not gonna go back.

[D]

We're not doing that. R. Kelly's not a crooner. He's a nasty son of a 100. He can sing his ass off.

[C]

One of the better vocalists.

[D]

Yeah, that's one. That's a singing ass. Nasty ass right there, for sure. Yeah.

[C]

But I think Brent switched up what people were kind of criticizing him about when it came to production. Like, dog, it's a lot of the same. You just leaving a bunch of space. It's eerie and weird. Like, that's why I asked you in the group chat. Is it too human nature for you?

[D]

This album is incredible.

[A]

I was listening to one song and I was like, oh, this is giving Michael.

[C]

But there's a few that have that. I mean, Raphael Sadiq was definitely on.

[D]

He gave us some Frank on there, too, though. Pause. He got into his Frank.

[A]

Now say what you was gonna say. Say what you was gonna say.

[C]

I just wanna. Before we get to that, I just want to highlight how amazing this Burn album is. I just want to start there.

[D]

I don't know which all are listening to which I thought y' all were listening to or which I were expecting to listen to when this album dropped. This Brent album is incredible. This is incredible. I was. I. I'm on the side with Word. This might be his best project. Okay, I'm on that.

[C]

Not ready to say it yet, but it. It crossed my mind.

[D]

I'm saying it.

[A]

What are this.

[C]

I'll even say it's February.

[D]

But the standouts.

[C]

This is going to be rough. A rough year for R B album of the year if. If Brent is starting the year out this way.

[A]

Really?

[C]

I think. Are you like, a Brent fan, though? I like Brent fans.

[A]

Brent. I think Brent's talented at what he does.

[C]

I can see why. He's not really crazy.

[D]

This album is crazy.

[C]

Certain people's cup of tea. Like, I get that. If you're not a Brent fan, I'm not here to convince you to be one. I'm saying, if you are a Brent fan, how do you feel about it?

[A]

The. The standard, the standouts to Me were four seasons strangers. Those are the. The standouts to me.

[D]

What have to. And butterflies. What are you. Are you not listening to the music?

[C]

Are you okay?

[D]

Get into the music, Baby D. Okay, have two butterflies.

[C]

Wise other side say other side is crazy.

[D]

Four Seasons. This n. This album is crazy. I don't know what y' all wanted. I love the sense, the 80s sense that he got on here. I love the ready, ready for the world type of vibe he giving us. See, if you ain't never had a bad miss topless in the convertible, you wouldn't understand this vibe, okay? This ain't for you. Go somewhere else. Everything ain't for everybody. This is. This is what this is. This is for that got bad bitches. If you ain't got no bad, I expect you to not like this. Go listen to the mother that ain't got no bad, okay? This is for the bad. Having this ass. This is what this is.

[C]

And if you searching for bad, I still feel like it's for you.

[D]

Yeah. All the bad, baby. Do you like this album? We not doing that.

[A]

I'm going to listen to it again. I didn't say that I dislike it. No, it's not my favorite Brent project, but I'm not going to say that I dislike it. I. I have to listen to it again. I've only heard it once. I have to digested only once. I've only heard it once. I played it today when I was doing my makeup.

[D]

Oh, no, no, no, no, Baby D. Okay, you got to. You got to get into the music.

[A]

Okay?

[D]

You got to let it play. You got to put the crock pot on. You got to put this album.

[A]

This is not crock pot music. This is not crockpot music. You put it on now. If. If somebody got a line for me. This is cocaine music. This ain't crockpot music.

[D]

It is, but you ain't always got to be doing coke. You could just be chilling. You could just be in the house drinking with wine.

[C]

And Westside Gun has cooked a brick in the crock pot before.

[D]

You got to put that. You gotta leave that on low like. Yeah, okay. All the way down.

[A]

I'mma give it another try now.

[D]

This album is crazy. This album. This might be Brent's best album.

[A]

I'm.

[D]

I'm. I'm ready to say this is the best album. My only thing is, while I do love that it's. It's short, I think we could have let the music just vibe a little bit more. He could have gave us 44 minutes. 10 more minutes.

[A]

Okay.

[D]

He could have gave us 10 more minutes, but I'm not. This album, incredible, man.

[C]

I'm bringing it kind of quiet. I don't want to jump out of the window, like.

[A]

And that's what you good at.

[C]

This album, perfect as is. This is flawless. This album is so.

[D]

Bro, this album is crazy to me. I can't.

[C]

To me.

[D]

I'm gonna keep it real. I can't believe he made this album. That's how good this is.

[C]

Let's have the conversation.

[D]

I cannot believe that, as a Brent.

[C]

Fan, I didn't know he was this good.

[D]

Yo, this. This. Yo, he done. He went to a whole another listen. He tapped into a whole another thing with this album. This is crazy. The attention to detail, the. The.

[C]

The.

[D]

The content, the. The substance. LaRussell, how do you feel about this? The substance is there.

[C]

You should have turned blood.

[D]

Yeah. I don't know what the. Do y'. All. Y' all on the Internet saying that this album is. Is trash.

[A]

I. I've seen love for and I've seen hate for it. And I'm also.

[D]

Ladies. Did y' all hear Pam? Did y' all hear the album?

[A]

We did not. We're excited.

[D]

What y' all be listening to?

[C]

I like Brent JCole.

[D]

Who the cares about what JCole thinks? Brent is out. Who cares what JCole thinks?

[A]

I listen to Brett, but I haven't had a chance yet. But you have me sold.

[C]

Mom, listen to this.

[D]

Listen to this album.

[A]

I just have a question.

[D]

What's up?

[A]

Because you don't got no. So I'm trying to feel.

[D]

I ain't got no.

[C]

She said no. I'm just saying that's what he says on. On the mic.

[A]

Never got no hoes as a listener.

[C]

All right?

[D]

Not. I don't have women that I'm having sex with. I have beautiful female friends.

[C]

Anytime you do this and hit every syllable, you lying. No, no.

[D]

I'm trying to get. I make sure that you. I'm making sure y' all receiving what I'm giving you. You picking up what I'm putting down.

[A]

Stand. Standout track on the album.

[C]

Standout track is funny.

[D]

I don't know.

[A]

It would be Four Seasons. That's the one that R B now has for Apple music. It would be Four seasons.

[C]

Oh, I mean, whatever.

[D]

Now get the C2 butterflies. What's the track? Pull up this. What is this? This any Brent? What is this?

[A]

I switched it to Jill Scott because I thought y' all were.

[D]

Get Jilly from. We going to get Jilly to Philly. We going to get to Jilly in Philly. But hold on. Yeah. Have two butterflies. Other side. Strangest world. It's. It's only 10 tracks, so it's real quick.

[A]

Every track is the standard.

[D]

He gonna get in and get out. He ain't gonna play around. He getting right to it. Soon as he said, take me from the top.

[A]

Is it good music? I don't.

[D]

I don't care what you do to this. Just play this. This. This song. This album is incredible. I don't. Yo, listen. Do not listen to anybody. Anybody that says this album is trash. Unfollow them, block them, stop. Because they just on a whole different frequency that you don't need to be a part of.

[A]

Is that the consensus? Damn. I ain't never seen you like somebody this much.

[D]

This album is.

[C]

I agree with everything Mo say right now. Stronger than he thinks about everything.

[A]

He don't.

[C]

No, I don't do that with everything.

[D]

I promise you. Listen this.

[C]

I just tore down your man's second disc last week.

[D]

Don't do that. Don't do that. Do that. We're not gonna do that.

[C]

Don't do that.

[D]

Don't do that. This album is so good. I was playing it, cleaning the crib, getting together. But it's. It's also only 30, 34, 35 minutes that back. No. So what happened was when it ended, it went into, like, another R B. You know, when you playing R B, they're going to nothing. I'm like, the whole vibe was different. I was like, why he put this in on. Then I went in my phone, oh, this ain't even the album. It's over. So I went back and I'm like, yo, he just gave us those 10 songs like that and got out of there.

[C]

12.

[D]

But yeah, it's 12 songs.

[C]

Yes.

[D]

Oh, well, whatever.

[C]

I went to the director's cut. I don't know if you did.

[D]

Yeah, this album. Yo, Shout out the Brent. Shout out to the team, whoever worked on this project. Y' all went in there and did what the y' all was supposed to do. Y' all went in there, y' all put them. Y' all put that together, and y' all got out of there. We not gonna play around and give y' all all of these bells and whistles and let's, you know, go after radio, but that. We gonna get y' all 12 tracks fire, and we gonna let y' all get back to whatever y' all. And then go back to cold. Then you can go back to Cole and the fall off, you can get back into that. But listen to that icon album. That is incredible.

[C]

As a Brent fan, I still had Brent in one category. I like larger than life a lot. He. He tried to. To get out of what the stereotypical Brent sound was, but still, I still put Brent over here. This album. Album, to me, puts Brent in a different conversation with R and B artists.

[D]

Yo, listen, man, I'm here for a baby. I love Frank Ocean, too. I love Frank Ocean, too.

[C]

This is where things are going to get weird.

[D]

I love Frank Ocean, too. But if Frank decide he don't never want to give us nothing else as long as Brent keep doing this, we gonna be all right. We gonna be all right.

[A]

A strong thing to say.

[D]

We gonna put Brent on the Coachella stage. Let her come out there, put that in old. The old Cadillac with four bad, drive that through the desert, Let Brent do what the he do. This nigga's a vibe. I'm with. I'm with Brent.

[C]

You don't think Frank would put four bad dudes in the Acura?

[D]

And that ain't my algorithm. That's all I'm saying. That ain't just not my algorithm.

[C]

You don't think Frank could pull.

[D]

I'm just saying. That just ain't my algorithm. I'm not saying if that's your algo, that's your algo. That's not mine. That's all I'm saying.

[C]

Four force gumps in the back.

[D]

I'm with this baby. D. You got to get what you. It was Valentine.

[C]

I get it.

[D]

You was on a different vibe.

[A]

I was on a different. Maybe I got, you know, maybe I got to hear it again.

[C]

Are you going to go, all right, I'm calling you out on the mic. Are you going to say what you said off mic on the microphone right now?

[A]

What did I say?

[D]

Me?

[C]

Yeah, you.

[D]

What did I say?

[A]

He said it.

[C]

No, he said, if Frank never puts a project out, we going to be all right. That's not what he said. Off the mic.

[D]

What did I say?

[C]

You said Brent has surpassed Frank Ocean.

[D]

Yes, yes. I feel like that. I feel like that Frank has given us. Giving us great songs, great albums, but we don't know what he on. We don't know if he going to show up. We don't know if he going to put a project out, but that doesn't.

[A]

Take away what he has done.

[D]

No, I'm not taking nothing away from Frank Ocean. Incredible artist. I'm just saying, when you start playing.

[C]

These Brent albums, Icon. Put. Put him in a different. I'm just saying, different category for me.

[D]

This nigga has been consistent.

[C]

I think it's an insane take, but it's. I get it. The volume is different. The amount of projects between Saunder and Brent is surpasses Frank. But how many artists have a Blonde?

[A]

How many artists have a Channel Orange?

[C]

How many artists have a Nostalgia Ultra?

[D]

I get it.

[C]

Like those three projects are so flawless.

[D]

I get all of that.

[C]

What is Cocaine?

[D]

I'm just saying. I'm just saying that's, that's. That's Frank.

[C]

No, that's James and. And no id.

[D]

What was the one with Frank? The. The mixtape.

[C]

Nostalgia Ultra.

[D]

Yeah, that. Incredible. Incredible, incredible. But we not gonna act like the projects, the albums that Brent been dropping over the last however many years.

[A]

Fire.

[D]

All of them have been crazy.

[A]

Yes, but there's a. It's. Of course they're crazy, but there's a reason why Frank is upholding the way that Frank is upheld.

[D]

Like, a lot of that be, you know, other things. I'm just talking about just the music. What things?

[A]

What things?

[D]

I mean, you know, it be other things that they, you know, I'm just talking about the music.

[A]

Are you saying that Frank is giving extra credit cuz he's gay?

[D]

No, see, look. Look how fast I was asking. That's.

[C]

That's what I took from it.

[D]

That's what. That's exact.

[C]

That's exactly what I took from it.

[D]

See, y' all a part of the problem on the Internet.

[B]

Y' all too.

[D]

They need to ban your account.

[C]

Ginger Holding.

[D]

Yeah, it's your fault. Why? No, that's not what I'm saying. Okay. I'm just saying when you. I'm just saying when you get pulled in for a hook.

[C]

I thought Ivey was just incredible.

[D]

When you get pulled in for a hook with, you know, Kanye and Jay and the Dream and all. Yeah, you gonna get put in that level where it's like. Oh, shit, like you put Brent right there too. He gonna perform, he gonna show out.

[C]

I think the. The work hook is just as iconic as no Church in the Wild. What he did with Gold Link. I see money all around me. I feel like on the. I think that's just as iconic. Iconic. So I don't know what you're saying there.

[D]

No, I'm just. I'm. If we get. Okay, if we get two more of those. Let us get two more of those. Let break it. Two more of those.

[A]

I'm g. Have to just put on channel Orange while we Leave the. And I just want y' all to.

[D]

No, no, you putting on the wrong. Here you go again. Backpedaling icon. You putting on. We already got icon.

[C]

Frank is active, so I don't even really want to entertain this conversation too much. I think Icon did put Brent ahead of a lot of the male R and B active singers right now. It's different, this album, man.

[D]

I'm. I'm. I'm talking my. But this album is incredible. Like, I really. I'm. I was more. I mean, we were all anticipating the album because we all. With Brent, but, like, I didn't think.

[C]

It was Be this good.

[D]

Yeah, I didn't think it was going to be this. This is an incredible album. Oh, Like, I don't know who. If he got a new team of producers and whoever sequenced this, y' all went in there and did what y' all was supposed to do. Shout out to his entire team because they. This Icon album is all of that. This is fire. I'm with this project.

[A]

Well, shout out to him.

[C]

Well, I mean, yeah, it definitely helps when you have Rafael Sadiq, Benny Blanco, Mike Dean. You just got the guy. My guy. Fave. Shout out to Fave. Like, yeah, there's. There's. There's some producers on here.

[D]

Okay. The Raphaels.

[A]

You could.

[D]

You could hear it. You can feel the Raphael Sadiq. You can feel all of that in there.

[C]

They said that, though, but I'm looking at. This is Wikipedia, so. So don't quote me. I don't see Rafael Sadiq on any of this. But that was like the press run that they put out the studio.

[D]

Just because he was in the studio.

[A]

Executive producer. He was diddy in it. Pause.

[D]

Even if he wasn't, the fact that. That he was just in that. Just the energy. Yeah. See, sometimes you just need the right people in the room.

[C]

Just create wavelength. Maybe they confused it and maybe Sean EP it because he does the Sadiq party. Maybe that's what they were. That's where they were getting that. Oh, you know what? I never knew that Raphael Sadiq's real name wasn't Rafael Sadiq. So let me go back to this now and find Wiggins. No, still not there. Yeah, I don't know, but it sounded like Raphael Sedik all over that fire.

[D]

Baby D, trust me on this.

[A]

I'm gonna give it another chance. And I didn't say it was bad. I just. I didn't get with, like, y' all were upholding it. Like, that was Thriller. I'm like, okay, I didn't get that.

[D]

Nobody said, see how fast you. You go too far. You see how fast? I said, frank Ocean. You said, mj, we not doing that.

[A]

Rory said, is it too human nature for you? He said that.

[C]

Yeah. Okay, but you know what I meant. See, this is why I hate when people take shit out of context. You know what I meant when I said human nature? That, that sonically, there's like two or three records that are in that bag. Sometimes people don't like that bag unless it's from Michael. No, I wasn't comparing it to human nature.

[A]

Oh, okay.

[C]

You knew. See, I don't even like this because you knew what I meant. Now you're just doing this on the mic. You knew what I meant when I said that.

[A]

How was that album, Scott?

[D]

I'm sorry, Jilly for Philly. I didn't get to Jilly from Philly yet. I didn't get into Jilly from Philly.

[C]

I definitely did. And beyond Deliver.

[D]

Did she deliver?

[A]

She did.

[C]

But here's the problem. This is going to sound nuts. I only gave it two listens because I was listening to Brent all weekend and I couldn't get past the Bren album. But I listened to it twice. I think it's great.

[A]

It's long. Do you really think it's great?

[C]

Yeah, no, I. I really do. There are some. Some moments where, you know, I'm probably gonna skip, but I do love the. The positivity.

[D]

And she's rapping on this.

[C]

Oh, yo. Her and Tierra Whack on Northside. I was a little nervous when I saw Northside just cause what Vince Staples has created with that brand. And I know, I know Tierra Whack and Jill are from north side of Philly, but when you throw the F on that, I was like, all right, you guys have some shoes to fill. Even though Joe Scott is a legend. DJ Premier produced that one. That record is nuts.

[D]

They.

[C]

They went nuts. It's great. I. I do want to, like, give it its proper listen. Yeah. Because it is. It's an hour and some change. It's. It's a lot of music and a lot of content. But I did. I did love it. Absol. Came in with the sun, Stars and the moon. He. He got on his astrology, per usual. But no, I really did like it.

[A]

How was the. The Jid track?

[C]

It was great. And it had me thinking, it takes Jid forever to give somebody a verse. I wonder how quickly he gave Jill Scott this verse.

[A]

Oh, that was J. From who? Yeah, I'm in the studio don't even trip.

[C]

But no, it is really really good. Some of my favorite joints sincerely do the outro is incredible to be honest. The which was the one with Tara Whack north side is incredible. I think too short killed really bpoty really. That would have been one of my favorite joints on there and I get it but it didn't need short which is kind of sad to say but yeah they could have left short off that beautiful people is incredible. I overall I do love it and I do want to give it a proper review on Thursday when we record after after you guys listen to it as well. But yeah, Brent kind of took over my my weekend.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

But no there's joints on there for sure.

[A]

Well after I listened to Brent this morning I I was on my new music so I immediately went into a boogie with the Hoodies EP and I just want to say that for over a day decade a boogie has been making better music than the rest of you. I just want to let that be clear.

[D]

Got a lot of TR ones out.

[A]

Here every time Bron I don't know if it's New York Bias. Every single time this comes on with new music I will send up there immediately. Just start bouncing. I'm like yo he do it every single time. That PGD with Kyle Rich and Zetty will to the young hoes. I know that the young ho trend is a thing to the young hoes. All of your tik toks should be to that side song. It's PGD which is girls just want to party get drunk. Oh my God. I said I feel young again. I feel young again. So his his EP before artistry Please please please go check that out. If you with even if you don't with a boogie I didn't know go listen to that.

[C]

I'm happy as an ep. Six My ride home huh yeah.

[D]

Six songs. Yes I want the a boogie shout out to High Bridge.

[C]

Yeah Still I know he says Bronx legends all the time but a boogie is Bronx legend.

[A]

Yes.

[C]

He does not get the one of.

[D]

The biggest Bronx legends I I would love a lot of y' all is his sons and daughters Mad facts sons and daughters.

[C]

This Hindsight is always 2020. I wish a boogie would have executive produced Bobby Schmurda's first project when he got out of jail.

[A]

Makes sense.

[C]

I I really like if a boogie got in that studio and kind of took reigns of of how to put a project together. I think we'd be looking at a different trajectory with with Bobby right Now, not that wild video he just posted.

[D]

I'm g. Say it every year. A Boogie. Don Q need an album together.

[C]

I mean, they have n. They need an album. They have a thousand songs together.

[D]

N need to.

[C]

I love Don Q.

[D]

A whole album. Don Q.

[C]

But even Don Q's projects, like A Boogie has kind of EP those as well. Like.

[A]

A Boogie.

[C]

A boogie could save New York if you guys would just listen.

[D]

Save New York?

[A]

No dead ass.

[C]

You think I'm jok. Could save the city.

[A]

He's one of the few artists from that. From his generation because he's been out, like I said, for over a decade. A Boogie is one of the artists from his generation where he had. He still has his sound, but he does not sound dated. So many artists from 2015, 2016, 2017, their sounds, they sound like it sounds like that time, and it sounds dated to me. He still sounds like himself, but he does not sound dated, bro. Like, he's. He's. He's amazing. I will always go hard for a boogie. So please go listen to before artistry if you get a chance. Six tracks. That's nothing. He got a trippy red on there. Kyle Rich Zetty. Well, other Zetty will. Sorry. Other than that, it's just him singing, rapping, Saying real. I with it.

[D]

Saying real is hilarious.

[A]

Saying real.

[D]

Hey, Boogie be saying real. He do.

[A]

He do. He always.

[C]

I'm drowning.

[A]

No, that was poetic. What my said.

[D]

What do you say, Baby D?

[A]

When he said. I got 99 problems and messages. Don't be asking me why I don't text you. Wrap your legs around me like we wrestling get on your knees. Don't you be someday. Don't you be so damn hesitant. What? I got 99 problems and messages. Don't be asking me why I don't.

[D]

Text you for sure he sound like me. Hey, Big. Using my bag with that one.

[A]

Yo, so can you say the off my Instagram. I don't know why my phone always in your hand, right? Mind your business.

[D]

Oh, my God.

[A]

Mind your business. You know I'm a businessman, right?

[D]

Y' all be listening, right?

[C]

I'm a businessman. Hey, Boogie.

[D]

See, see, see, see, see how the white boy always. They gonna always find a way he been showing up, infiltrate the culture. Yeah, man. Shout out to a culture Shout out to a boogie man. I'mma check that joint out.

[C]

I definitely am. And again, we just need. Maybe Mero could get on this now. Now that he's running hot. 97. We need boogie to be the Gucci man of New York City if you're a new artist. Joey Badass G. Get with get with a boogie. Yeah. He needs to EP every New York City album moving forward.

[D]

Do we have voicemails?

[A]

We do.

[D]

Of course we do. Sponsored by Boost Mobile, Unlimited talk, text, and you've got mail. I'm in a bit of a sticky situation, man. I want to ask my girl if she'll peg me, if she'll me with a strap on. Now, I know that sounds crazy. I know it sounds like I'm on some fruity stuff. Stuff some Fruity Loops or some like that, but let me not judge, man. Some girl I used to with back in the day, she pegged me, and on. God, that felt. It felt different, gang. It felt different.

[C]

Don't gang me.

[D]

It honestly felt better than the blow job. It felt better than normal. Real talk. And I've just been chasing that sensation ever since. But I'm just chasing that sensation. I'm scared that the girl I'm talking to, if I ask, she gonna tell everybody that I'm gay or some. Or she gonna just leave me or she gonna think I'm a loser or some, man. But, man, I've been chasing that feeling ever since. Yo, honestly, man, like, I feel for every dude out there, because I think we missing out, man. We missing out. Oh, peace and love, y'.

[C]

All.

[D]

Don't piece and love me, fam. Don't peace and love me after that. I don't want peace or love.

[C]

Not King shame. And let's also thank him for his vulnerability.

[D]

Why? Why?

[C]

Can't be like, can we. That King can. We appreciate his vulnerability.

[A]

Say you just as gay for getting your assay as he is for getting in it.

[C]

That's what I was about to start with. You are an advocate of getting your diaper changed. The next step is getting pegged.

[D]

No, that's not the next. See, that's.

[A]

That's.

[D]

That's what y' all would like to think the next step is. That's not the next step.

[A]

There's some people who will shame your.

[D]

Kink, but it's not a kink, though. I'm not saying I need that. And I'm chasing that sensation every time I have sex. I'm just saying girls just. They end up doing it. I don't ask for it. I'm like, okay, go ahead. Go get you some.

[C]

You just raise your leg a little bit.

[D]

I mean, I'm gonna help you out. Yeah. If I see you looking under the bed for the remote, I'm gonna move the Blanket. That's all.

[C]

You can sit there for the airplane going like this.

[D]

That's all I'm gonna do. I'm gonna lift the blanket up for you. You see it? You got it. That's all. Damn. But this dude is.

[A]

Don't. All right. Ask him to. How should he ask the girl?

[D]

You should not ask the girl at all.

[A]

I think you should.

[D]

No, you should not. Don't listen to her. She's gay. You should not ask a girl to peg you more. Nine times out of 10, it's going to turn the woman off. She's not going to be into it. I'm just helping you out, bro. Let's just be honest here. We giving him solid advice. Most women are not comfortable. Comfortable with their man asking them to peg them. Let's just be real. We got three women and ladies. Are y' all comfortable with that?

[C]

They both done it.

[A]

I think that he. He should. Yes or no?

[C]

Yes or no?

[A]

Have. Are you comfortable? Yes or no? Comfortable with that? Yes. Doing that. Yes or no? No. No.

[D]

There's two no's over there.

[A]

How I can. But he could just ask her what kink she's into. She ain't into that. Kink. She ain't gonna volunteer that one.

[D]

Y' all not into that? Yes. No.

[A]

No.

[D]

Baby D. Are you into that?

[C]

She's homophobic. I am not. Don't put that.

[A]

What the.

[D]

Baby D. Are you into it if your man asks you to peg him?

[A]

Is that my thing? No. But if I was married and that's what he wanted, then I would explore it.

[C]

Dimaris, you said you could never even be with a man that has sucked a dick before.

[A]

That's. No, because that's different. Having. You having an attraction.

[C]

Getting pegged is vicarious.

[A]

I'm talking you having an attraction to men. Men. You have an attraction to men. Being bisexual is completely different from you liking to get pegged. That's. That's completely different. If you want to get pegged by a woman. That's completely different. That's like. There's. There's lesbians. There's lesbians who are not attracted to men and would never have sex with a man. But they use strap ons. That doesn't make them straight. Because they're using a fake dick. That doesn't make them straight. They're still attracted to women.

[D]

I'm joking.

[A]

They just like the sensation. So.

[C]

No, I get that. And what, Lesbians are gay?

[A]

Yes, because they. They're.

[C]

So if you have a suit, if a strap on enters your Ass. You would be.

[A]

No, that doesn't. It doesn't link up like that.

[D]

That.

[A]

There's no. You can't draw that.

[C]

Never mind. Never mind. I'm not King Shane.

[A]

Yes.

[D]

I don't care where my G spot is.

[A]

And then, like, she puts a tongue in it, then a finger, and then.

[D]

No, see, you see. No, no, no. You see the grass gradual. I don't graduate. We're not doing that. No, it ain't. No finger.

[C]

No tassel is going to.

[D]

Yeah. Finger, tongue, then it's a peg. No, that's not. We're not doing that.

[A]

A lot of men like being pegged, though. It's a thing. Yeah.

[D]

So that's a lot of men.

[A]

Could be a big thing. It could be a small little, like. Yeah.

[C]

Plug with the diamond on it.

[A]

I'm pegging you with a little dildo. It's the same as a tongue. It's a stiff tongue.

[D]

No, it's not.

[A]

Everybody.

[D]

It's not the same.

[A]

I'm just.

[D]

No. What's his name?

[C]

No, we don't say his name.

[A]

Don't say his name.

[C]

I'm not. Different strokes for different folks. If that's how you get down, cool. But I'm kind of with the room here. Unless she brings that up, she's going to look at you, fam. I. I personally wouldn't ask her that, cuz I think she's going, don't ask.

[D]

Your girl to peg.

[A]

You could fill her out. You could be like, yo, like, you ever, like, peg somebody? And then. And then if she gets disgusted, if she gets disgusted, turned off, like, what.

[D]

You going to say? Yeah, that's crazy, right?

[C]

Yeah, his dream.

[D]

His dream.

[C]

He's gonna be like, yeah, chasing that sensation.

[A]

Yeah. There are websites where you can go to. To get that sensation outside of that relationship. But if that's.

[D]

What website is this?

[C]

Wouldn't that be cheating?

[A]

No, I don't think they're in a relationship. I think they're just dating. Okay, but, you know, if that's something you're gonna be chasing for the rest of your life, eventually you're gonna cheat on me with somebody that's you in the ass. So just ask me from very beginning. Just ask me from the very beginning.

[C]

Imagine Damaris's reaction if she found out her man was cheating by getting in this. Do you think she'd sound as liberal as she sounds right now?

[D]

No, not at all. I think she would come in here with a whole different hair color, all kind of anything to. Kind of anything to rinse that out of her soul.

[A]

I'm putting that on me.

[D]

Anything to rinse that out of her soul. She gonna come in here with a whole different. I need that energy from that demon off of me.

[C]

I don't know, I. I guess to try to give, like, real advice. If you ease into the ass eating or a finger there and then maybe.

[D]

I don't know, just.

[C]

No, I've never asked someone to pay me.

[A]

He's supposed to get pleasure because he's supposed to be scared to ask for it.

[C]

I'm not shaming him at all. I just don't think you should ask that girl that.

[D]

I'm thinking, yeah, that's what I'm saying. I don't think he should ask that. I don't think the girl is going to be into that. And I think she's going to stop fucking with him and then she's going to form a group chat and then his new nickname is going to be Peggy Boy. Yep. Like, okay.

[A]

My point is, if he wants to be pleasured, if that's something that you really, really want, then you should be with somebody and dating somebody who's willing to sexually satisfy you. If that person is not willing to sexually satisfy you, then leave. There's some people that don't like their mouths getting squirted and do. Do some people need to be with them? No, you leave and you go to the next person.

[C]

Here's my thing. I don't mind that. But it's not an end all be all. If, like, I. Somebody, if she doesn't want to squirt on my face, I'm like, that's not, that's not a deal breaker.

[A]

What I'm saying is great for your beard, though, for the person who does that. If you're dealing with somebody who's like, ill, squirting is disgusting. I don't want that. You don't need to be with them.

[D]

True.

[C]

But is that a deal breaker? Like, if squirting disappears from my relationship that I love, I'm not gonna.

[A]

Okay, but I'm talking about from the woman's perspective. You keep talking from your perspective. From the woman's perspective, if that's something that, that she does and that's something that she's into, why would you ever go be with somebody no matter whether they talk about you and call you Pissy Mattress or not, if that's something that you do and that you're into, you need to be with somebody who's into the same things as you. And you will never know until you ask.

[D]

So it's a very mature way of putting it.

[A]

Like, just ask. Okay, so what she call you peg boy? So what? That's what you into. That's what the fuck you into. Like, people need to stop. That's why we need to stop kink shaming, so that people can be more. And that's why I also say stop STD shaming. Because people need to be able to be open about what the fuck they have going on sexual sexually, so that everybody else knows and people can stop being shamed for it. People can just be open. That's why. Be open with your shit.

[C]

I respect if you got aids. You should tell me.

[D]

Well, yes, Rory, I agree with you.

[C]

I was going to the extreme.

[D]

No, I get it. You always got to go to the whole other end of the spectrum.

[C]

Yes, I do feel like a fisherman can always spot another fisherman. I feel like he knows the girls that are down for the peg and I feel like he already knows that she's not into that.

[A]

You never.

[C]

That's why he left the. The voicemail.

[A]

Maybe he's just scared. Weren't the. The girls. Was it one of them talking about pegging somebody with New York boots on or something like that? Weren't they talking about that?

[D]

Well, he wanted that. He wanted that. You saw how they were laughing about at that gentleman.

[A]

No, they said they did it and then they stopped talking to him, right?

[D]

I don't know if that. It went like that. I don't know if they did it and then stopped talking to him.

[A]

Oh, okay. Cuz I thought they said they did it for money and then they stopped talking to him.

[D]

No, I think once he sent money, they stopped talking.

[A]

Oh, okay.

[D]

Something like that. I don't think they actually went through with it and did it though.

[C]

But he paid for the peg and didn't get the peg.

[A]

Just got laughed at.

[C]

That's gotta be on a new podcast.

[D]

Listen, man, you know, this is what we do here. We bring. We're community building a community here.

[C]

Okay, well then, I mean, how do you bring up your kinks to the person you're dating?

[D]

How do I bring up my kinks?

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

I don't. They usually just, you know, in real time. They just hit the spots facility.

[A]

Okay.

[D]

Yeah, they know what they're doing.

[C]

Gotcha.

[D]

Okay.

[C]

No, damaris me.

[A]

I asked. I asked what their porn history is and who their favorite porn star is and what their porn. I asked what's your pornhub search? And that's usually will tell you a.

[D]

Lot about people okay, so if your pornhub search is big, busty Latina, you.

[A]

Don'T got no business being with me.

[D]

Okay?

[A]

I'm the exact opposite. I have no bust.

[D]

Bbw.

[A]

I am not a bbw.

[D]

I'm saying what that means. He's not. He shouldn't be with you either.

[C]

So his porn history should match who.

[A]

You are when it comes to the type of. But I'm not. I don't care about who you're looking at. I'm caring about what you're looking at. What are you looking for in the porn? Not who you're looking. Looking at. Who you're looking at is just who you're attracted to. What are they doing there, Hump?

[D]

Same I'm trying to do in the bedroom tonight. I'm trying to go. I'm trying to go remake all of this. In the bedroom. Yeah, all of this. They just did 9:30. Meet me in there. Yeah. Yeah.

[C]

I don't think. I don't think porn matches what you want with your significant other all the time.

[A]

Not all the time, but it shows the real what really turns you on.

[C]

I've watched some gangbang before. I would never want my girl to be involved in myself. And as well, I don't, I don't. I don't subscribe to women with other men.

[A]

Don't you go and search Gang Bang?

[C]

No, but it's. It's been, you know, in the for you page.

[A]

So when I say your search, not what comes up, your search. What are you looking to? What are you going for?

[C]

I don't know. I don't know if I've really searched. Like, I just go with the what's, what's there. And then I go down that ra.

[D]

It's certain there, certain players I'm looking for, certain athletes I'm. I'm looking for. I'm going right to her. Like, where's she at? I don't want to see nothing. No advertisement.

[C]

She dropped today.

[D]

Yeah, like, I don't want to see no advertisement. None of that. Let me get right, right to where she's at. Whatever she's doing. We going to find out. I don't know what she's doing in this scene. I've never seen this one before. And then you got your favorite scenes from your favorite ones that, you know.

[A]

You got the bookmarks.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

You know what she about to get into. Yeah, but I'm not into the orgy in the shower. I'm like, I'm cool. Never doing that waste of water. Seven two girls what we doing? It's stinking here.

[C]

That's what the steam is for.

[D]

Like, what we doing in here? This smell crazy. I'm not doing that.

[C]

Editing porn. Must be funny.

[D]

I know a girl that edits porn. Friend of mine.

[C]

We should interview her. I have so many questions.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

Quickly, though. Obama said aliens are real. And then the interviewer just went on to the next question. Like, what you have for dinner last night?

[D]

No, he didn't do that. He said he never seen him. There's no Area 51. He said unless they kept it top secret from the president, he didn't see or know any about any of that.

[C]

The second most famous.

[D]

Like, he would tell us if it.

[C]

Was the second most famous president in our country's history. Casually said, yeah, aliens are real. And the world didn't stop.

[D]

Why would they?

[C]

The own. The interviewer was like, anything.

[D]

I think we all know aliens are real.

[A]

I thought that was like a. Like, we all knew this.

[D]

If you don't think aliens are real, I don't know what you're doing with your life.

[C]

I mean, yes, I think the IRS is a scam. We all know that. But if the president said yeah, we'd all go, wait, we know it's true. But the fact that you just said that.

[D]

Yeah, it's a difference.

[C]

It's definitely casually saying aliens are. This is not a movie. Yeah, Obama said aliens are real. The way we just talked about the Vlad. Oh, yeah, no Vlad. He was crazy, y'.

[A]

All.

[C]

Out of y'. All. President Barack Obama said aliens are real. And we went about our day.

[D]

We went back to the Brent album.

[C]

That's not insane to y'.

[A]

All.

[D]

What we gonna do? I knew that. I was waiting for Barack to confirm it.

[C]

I would. The whole interview would have had to start. Like, my follow up questions are, I don't care. What?

[D]

Take that cue card. Throw that out there.

[C]

I don't care about your daughter Michelle. I don't care about anything going on. What did you just say?

[D]

Yeah, and he said his first question as president was, where the aliens? He said that was his first president. All right, where's the aliens? I want to see him.

[C]

Got me thinking. The Epstein. Is everybody up?

[D]

Oh, man. What a world we live in.

[C]

Okay, maybe I'm the only one that just thinks that's absolutely.

[D]

No, I'm with you. What are we gonna do, man? I'm with you, though. I get it.

[C]

Distractions. I understand.

[D]

Before we leave, we do want to send a rest in peace. Peace to Shanae. Shanae Curry. We Lost her last week. I know that you. You. Rory had a close relationship with her. I know pe. Had a relationship with as well, but we did lose her last week. So we do want to send condolences and prayers to her family and anybody, any of her friends and close loved ones. I know that can be a heavy loss, losing somebody so young, so full of life and vibrant and energetic at such a young age. So rest in peace to Shanae Curry and our prayers and condolences with her family.

[C]

Yeah, absolutely. And I want to say with her closest, closest friends, they have been so strong in representing her so well to the rest of the world of who she was. So I do want to give. I don't like the word shout out, but more strength and prayers to her really close, immediate circle. Yeah, they have been representing her the way. Way she really should be represented and who she was as a person. You know, I've known Shanae since 2011. Like, that was, to me, is like a reflection of each other as far as trying to come up in this business. Like, I. I watched that girl grind from absolutely nothing to make an impact where somebody like J. Cole was stopping what they're doing, rightfully so to go pay their respects. So, I mean, I could talk for hours of how much I love Shanae. And, you know, I was talking with Damaris. We didn't end up going Friday just because it was too much. And I was talking with Corey, Chris, Casanova, like, it was just too much for a lot of us to even go there. So I love everybody that went to the event on Friday and was much stronger than us to even be there for her.

[D]

And.

[C]

Yeah, this. This. This one was. This one was pretty rough, man.

[A]

This.

[C]

It's.

[D]

It's tough. It's tough. Like a young woman like that. Yeah.

[C]

Yeah. Because I. I was even just looking at photos of us in 2011. Like, we look like. Like actual, like children. Yeah, it's. It's insane when we always talk about.

[A]

The viral picture of Rory with the. With the Bel Air bottles. That was at one of the. In house.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

Yeah, man. Yeah. I mean, prayers, Ms. Milan, Chloe, just everyone that. That is extremely close to her. Her family. I. I can't say enough amazing things about them. Like, she was. She was. She was one of my favorite people, period. So, yes, this. This one sucked. Was a very rough, rough weekend, to be honest.

[D]

Always tough to lose such young, vibrant people. Like, that's always, like, one of the things that I always look at, like, when you lose people when they're Young and seem like they got so much ahead of them, so much more to do. That's always tough. Cause you always thinking forever, like, what if, you know, like, what else would she have done? And how much more, you know, good times and good moments would we have had? Like, it's always tough. But she lived full of life. She was very, you know, outspoken and loved her people, loved her circle, and it's time to carry that on with each other. So rest in peace to Shanae Curry and again continue prayers and condolences to her family and her friends.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

All right, well, on that note, thank y'.

[A]

All.

[D]

Pam and Gina, thank y' all for coming today. We appreciate y'. All.

[A]

Thank you for my gift. Thanks, guys.

[D]

Y said that in unison. Y' all practice that.

[C]

You didn't feel away. Like, they made me a T shirt as well, but they use the Spotify basketball photo. Like, I can't even wear it. Classic. Like, Damaris's shirt is fire. Like, she could wear that out.

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Corey. I get, like, compliments when I used to wear a shirt. They'll be like, oh, my God, who's that Irish guy? When I go to a pub and I said some random white podcast. They thought you were, like, important.

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Like, they thought. They thought you were important. They thought you was important.

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We gave you guys a sweater and. And a shirt. She just got this shirt.

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That is true.

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Listen, I appreciate y'.

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All.

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Thank you so much. I love my shirt. Thank you so much.

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I know exactly where mine is right now. Did you not give yours maybe to a young woman that was.

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No.

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That was leaving your house like, yo, you could wear this one. No, because you didn't want a brand of that way.

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Now when they come to my house, they know they stand, so they bring their own.

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A little weekender.

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Yeah. No little whole bag. Bring. Bring your.

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You ever had a rip some of her weave out and stuff it under your. Your pillow?

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Nah, none of my do voodoo.

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I can't say I've ever had that happen.

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Yeah, none of my do voodoo.

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Me neither.

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We talk to y' all soon. Be safe, be blessed. I'm that. He's just ginger. Peace.

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