Damaris (1:44)

It was like stepping on another world. Was he a businessman?

Rory (1:48)

A criminal?

Damaris (1:50)

A hero?

Mall (1:51)

Charlie was an example of power. They had to crush him.

Damaris (1:55)

Charlie's place from Atlas Obscura and visit Myrtle Beach. Listen to Charlie's place on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

Rory (2:10)

No conductor,

Damaris (2:15)

do worry. And ma, do.

Rory (2:19)

Do.

Damaris (2:40)

People have a hard time doing that when they're in the studio with legends? Oh, my bad. Sorry. My bad. Sorry.

Mall (2:47)

Oh, are we rolling? Sorry. Oh, Peach, are we rolling? We are rolling. We are back. Welcome to a new, new episode of the new Rory and Mall podcast. I am Maul.

Rory (3:02)

I'm Rory.

Mall (3:03)

And we are back, baby. We was trying to figure out what. We was talking about this on this episode. And Baby D has, you know, she has control of it. And her. Her photo booth on her MacBook popped up. Baby D was giving thighs and pies. What was you doing over there, Baby D? We saw that. Who was that for? Yo, that was a little. You had a little photo. You had, like, it was like an art direction to that photo shoot and everything. Like, the bed was done. You don't even make your bed up like that. Like, you know, you made the bed up for the photo shoot. Did you see how comfortable was folded?

Rory (3:34)

Listen, man looked like he was making content. Yo, baby, that look like paywall content.

Mall (3:38)

You got a. Of we don't know about.

Damaris (3:39)

No, I don't.

Mall (3:40)

Baby, they got a feet of we don't know about. For sure.

Rory (3:43)

I respect it.

Mall (3:44)

You got a foot of we don't know about. You over there selling feet. You got nice feet, though, so thank you. But what you was doing over there in the. In between the sheets, I didn't even know.

Damaris (3:52)

Taking photos. You know, sometimes you like to take photos of yourself to just remind you, like, oh, you have a nice body. You look good. Half.

Mall (3:58)

Nah, nah, nah, nah. Okay. Yes, you're right. Sometimes we do like to take photos of ourselves. But them photos don't just live in the photo booth, though. Cause that's photo booth. That's the MacBook. Like, you put the MacBook on the bed. I know that photo will count down from three. I know how.

Rory (4:12)

Yeah, like, that was a curated photo shoot.

Mall (4:15)

Yeah, and it was a carousel. It was like nine pictures up there. Yo, what you. So that means that that's. That made it off the editing floor.

Rory (4:21)

Yeah.

Mall (4:22)

So, like, how long was the photo shoot? Was you. How much studio time did you book?

Damaris (4:25)

Was it long? It wasn't that long. It was just. I had gotten dressed for the Mariah the Scientist concert, and I just.

Mall (4:31)

Oh, that was from Mariah. That was what, this past concert?

Damaris (4:34)

Yeah.

Mall (4:34)

When was it?

Damaris (4:35)

Saturday. Friday. Friday.

Mall (4:38)

Oh, so this what Baby D was doing on Friday? I see the hair. You looking like. You looking like Jessica Rabbit. You got the Jessica Rabbit head like it's glowing. Baby D, what's up with you? Yo, what is happening? All right, first of all, how was your weekend?

Damaris (4:52)

My weekend was good.

Mall (4:53)

All right, cool. Now that we got that out the way, how was. How was the show? How was the show?

Damaris (4:59)

The show was really good. I was. I, you know, me, you know, I had to cry. I was so proud of her. I was so happy for her.

Mall (5:06)

Like, it was the show. Radio City.

Damaris (5:08)

Radio City.

Mall (5:09)

Maria Scientist sold out. Shout out to Mariah Scientist.

Rory (5:12)

That's incredible.

Mall (5:12)

Sold out show at Radio City Musical that's big.

Damaris (5:15)

And it sold out fairly quickly, too. The production was good. She's getting so much better. Like, her growth from her performances last year. You could tell the budget is bigger. You could tell she's putting more effort in. It was. It was really good. And I. I like being in shows where Radio City isn't. It isn't Barclays. Right. And it isn't. And hopefully one day she gets to those places. But it feels so intimate. Like, everybody.

Mall (5:36)

You can hear already.

Damaris (5:37)

No, as a guest.

Rory (5:39)

Yeah, she was Lotto's guest.

Mall (5:41)

Okay, okay.

Damaris (5:41)

But you can hear everybody screaming every word to every song. Every word to every song. Like, it was. It was incredible. I had a ball.

Mall (5:52)

There's a lot of pretty women in there.

Damaris (5:53)

Oh, they were beautiful. But the girl. The girls were so cute. They were all dressed up like they were. They kind of, like, dressed up like Mariah. They had their cute little leather shorts on and their little funky boots and like. Like their little toy soldier.

Mall (6:05)

Is that what you gave them for the concert?

Damaris (6:08)

I had, yes. The bodysuit that you saw. I had that, but I did put pants over it.

Mall (6:12)

Thank God. To say thank God. Yeah. I thought you might have just gave him the trench with that on right there.

Rory (6:17)

To go see Mariah going backstage and opening the trench for Mariah looking.

Mall (6:21)

What I'm saying, looking like Apollonia. I thought that's what you gave him right there. But it's all good. So it was a good show.

Damaris (6:25)

It was Rory. Shout out to Rory and Carly Hustle for surprising me. But Rory's so funny. Rory was calling me or whatever. And, like, I looked at. Sometimes Rory called me, and I knew he was like, with reason. I looked at my location. I'm like, all right. They. Around the corner, man. What they want. Rory kept calling me, kept calling me. He texted me and was like, you want these Mariah Scientist tickets or not? I called back immediately, like, wait, what's going on?

Mall (6:49)

That's how they do. Yeah, that's how they do Rory.

Rory (6:51)

So I'm.

Mall (6:52)

As soon as they know they got a gift, they call right back, don't they?

Rory (6:55)

I'm. I'm at. I'm at brunch with Carly Hustle and her partner busy, and she brings up that she has these Mariah the Scientist tickets, but she may not be able to make it. And I was like, I know somebody that's a Die Hard Mariah fan.

Mall (7:07)

You got somebody.

Rory (7:08)

So I'm at lunch, two, three calls. I'm like, all right. I mean, I'll let you know Carly. But she. She not answers. Like, you know what? Let me text her. So I say, yo, I got possible

Mall (7:17)

pass through before it even said delivered.

Rory (7:19)

And then the phone's not being said. Carly says, there's no way she just called you back when you texted her about the tickets. I said, yeah, that's supposed to be my best friend.

Mall (7:29)

That's what we do.

Rory (7:31)

And then did the bullshit. Yo, I just woke up.

Damaris (7:34)

Because I woke up.

Rory (7:35)

You put the voice on and everything, like, because I was.

Damaris (7:38)

I was in and out. I was in and out of the

Rory (7:40)

message Woke you up? Not the calls?

Damaris (7:42)

No, my phone was on D and D. I didn't hear anything, but I had just woke up, and I looked at my phone, and, you know when you in and out of sleep, I looked at my phone. I'm like, man, what, Rory? I. Because I knew that you were coming to Brooklyn, so I thought you were calling me to hang out. I didn't feel like hanging out. If you were home and I saw you called me, I would have called you back immediately, but I knew you were in Brooklyn. I'm like, I don't feel like hanging out. Like, I'm. That's why. Cause you was like, where you at?

Mall (8:03)

I'm like, yeah, the way you at. When. Especially when you don't feel like hanging out. I ignore those two. Where you at? What?

Damaris (8:10)

Not right now.

Rory (8:12)

I think that's. That's false history or what you did.

Damaris (8:15)

What you doing? It was something like that. It was either where you at or what you doing. That's why I checked your location. I saw you as a.

Mall (8:19)

Saying he think that's false. History is hilarious. Fals history.

Rory (8:21)

Okay. No, I said, where you at? Do you want these Mariah to Science tickets or not?

Damaris (8:25)

Yeah, he said, where you at?

Mall (8:26)

Was it all together or was it where you at first?

Damaris (8:28)

It was where you at first.

Rory (8:29)

Within a minute. Like, it's the same.

Mall (8:32)

Okay.

Damaris (8:32)

All I saw was where you at? In the missed calls. And I was. And I checked his location. I saw he was in Brooklyn. He was, like, 15 minutes away. I'm like, I don't feel like hanging out. I'm exhausted. We had a long work week. Last week felt long for some reason.

Mall (8:44)

It was the same work week.

Damaris (8:45)

It felt. I don't know why. It felt long.

Mall (8:49)

Just say you ain't feel like hanging out with Rory. That's what you do.

Damaris (8:51)

No, it's not.

Mall (8:51)

You ain't got to do the long work week thing. Like, just say y' all didn't feel like hanging out With Rory, it was up.

Rory (8:56)

I didn't want to hang out either. I'm just trying to get you some tickets.

Mall (8:58)

That's what it's really position this.

Rory (9:01)

Like, I was a lonely person running.

Damaris (9:03)

That's cat. Because after. When we was about to hang up, he was like, yo, I'm only like five minutes from your house.

Rory (9:06)

I was like, I was just baiting you because I was with Reese.

Damaris (9:08)

Like, I'm. He's like, I'm come get you. I was like, ah, don't do that.

Rory (9:12)

No, because reason. I were already going to the city. I was just with you with that.

Damaris (9:14)

Oh, okay.

Rory (9:16)

Though you haven't, like, invited me to the house. I would like to see it, but,

Damaris (9:19)

you know, this is nothing to see.

Mall (9:20)

No shit. If we. If that's what's going on in the crib shit, like, what time is brunch? Cause I need to pull up. Like, if it's thighs and pies like that every Friday, we there. We in the house. What? So. All right, so hold on. You hit her Friday?

Rory (9:33)

Yes.

Mall (9:35)

So what time did you start to shoot? If that was like, the. Cause if he.

Damaris (9:38)

That was right. I was about to walk out the door. I was literally about to walk out the door.

Rory (9:41)

I told her at 3:07 is when I hit her about the tickets. So she did have ample time to get a photo shoot off.

Mall (9:46)

Okay. All right, cool. All right.

Damaris (9:48)

So that was quick, though. That wasn't. That didn't take long. A couple of, like, thigh shots. That was.

Mall (9:52)

Find that angle right away. 10 minutes. Wow. I'm out the door. I like that. Okay.

Rory (9:55)

I will say, though, I do believe there's a world where Damaris does not want to hang out with me. I can accept that. But when I was jokingly like, yo, I'm. I'm right down the street. I'm like, five minutes from you. She's like, don't come here. Do not come here. I was like, oh, I was joking, but my bad. Why?

Damaris (10:10)

I was drained. I was. I think it's because Tuesday I usually rot and sit in the house, and I didn't. I was running around Tuesday. Like, the day we have off. I was running around Tuesday. And, like, now that we have different personalities on our show, which I love, all of them. It was just Thursday was a lot. It was a lot of talking. It was a lot of people. It was a lot. I was just. By Friday, I was just like, I don't.

Mall (10:31)

Social media was your bad. Social battery was drained.

Damaris (10:33)

My social battery was drained. I was like, by yeah. And then reason was in town. I went out with him on Wednesday. It was just. It was too much people. I was like.

Mall (10:40)

It was too much people.

Damaris (10:42)

Yeah. I was like, nah, I need to just be alone. Like in my house in silence.

Rory (10:45)

No, I'm with you though. I was. I was extra exhausted this weekend for some reason. Like, Ms. Thank God, Ms. Rachel dropped some. Some new heat rock. So I even threw that on and snuck in like a 30 minute nap. Felt like eight hours. Like. Yeah, I was very tired. I spent most of yesterday just sleeping. Yeah, I don't know why. I was really tired this weekend.

Mall (11:03)

Yesterday was my sleeping Bedrock day.

Damaris (11:05)

Really?

Mall (11:06)

Yeah. I was in the crib all day. Yeah, I'm a bedrock guy. But we are back sponsored by Boost Mobile. Unlimited talk, text and data.

Rory (11:15)

Yes. Did you do anything

Mall (11:18)

Saturday? I went to see Scream 7. I went to the theater Saturday night. I caught the last show. I didn't even know it was coming out. How was it? My peoples hit me was like, yo, let's go see Scream 7. I was like, didn't even know if Scream was coming out. I'm always down to go to the movie. So I went to it. It was. I think seven is a lot.

Rory (11:36)

Let me just say that I didn't even know. I think I missed six, five and four.

Mall (11:40)

Yeah, like seven is a lot, but

Rory (11:43)

I think I saw three.

Mall (11:44)

I don't know, man. I wasn't. I wasn't. It had. It had his moments. It had some moments that was kind of like, okay, they put a nice. They put a spin on it, but the spin was kind of cheesy, I guess. I don't know, man. That's not my type of scary, like, film. Like my scary film is, you know, the prototypical. You know, put somebody in a house somewhere where it's like a lake house or somewhere on vacation. And you know what I'm saying? The guy, that's the fucking local town, I don't know, Parks department cleaner guy. He kills everybody to come. Like, give me that. But like the Scream 7, like the Ghost face mask still, like, we still.

Rory (12:26)

Is it the same guy? Like, refresh my memory. I can't remember the last time I watched the Scream.

Mall (12:30)

No, it's the same guy, but like, then there's. You know how they do, like how they say, oh, the copycat killers. Yeah, like people fall in love with like killers. So now other people are mocking him, like, trying to be him as well.

Rory (12:43)

Cause I'm about to say, I mean, that precinct should be on notice. Yeah, seven Movies. We haven't caught this fucking guy in this town.

Mall (12:50)

And I think it is. You know what I think it is? I think we are so, like, desensitized as just humans now. I think, like, scary movies have to just be a little more like just hopping out of, like, you know, the dark corner in the crib and standing there. That don't scare us no more.

Damaris (13:06)

Yeah.

Mall (13:06)

Make a really good, like, raise taxes. Like, why can't the killer just raise taxes and like, raise the mortgage and then, like, you know what I'm saying? Get fired. The guy got fired. And it's like, oh, shit, I'm gonna eat. That's it. Oh, shit, I'm gonna eat.

Rory (13:16)

Scream 8 with Donald Trump and cast Patel.

Damaris (13:18)

Yeah.

Mall (13:18)

Like, give us that. Like this.

Damaris (13:20)

It's just.

Mall (13:20)

I don't know, man. I just think that seven is a lot. They could have stopped at like four.

Rory (13:25)

You make a good point. Because we can really open our phone and actually watch people get murdered, unfortunately, in, like real life. So. Yeah, I hear you. Scary movies are.

Mall (13:33)

It's just not. It's not. You have to have a real. A story that we absolutely cannot predict. Yeah. And I think that's gonna like, give us more of a scare than Scary Movie seven. And Ghostface is here and this, that and the third. And you know, I know I'm sick

Damaris (13:48)

because, like, the only that scared me is I can't fight like with a chainsaw.

Mall (13:53)

Ah.

Damaris (13:53)

I could fight you. Like, I. I got a chance. Even if I die trying, I got a chance. But like some supernatural shit that's. Yeah, like some shit I need a priest for. All right now I'm terrified.

Mall (14:05)

Yeah.

Rory (14:05)

Yeah. Because the, like, the real life type of scary movies are definitely, like, only target liberals because there's no way, like, why in every. The second amendment law should kick in at some point in these movies.

Mall (14:18)

Yeah.

Rory (14:19)

If there's a serial killer on the loose, nobody has a gun.

Damaris (14:21)

Yeah.

Mall (14:22)

Yeah.

Rory (14:22)

He's walking at that pace for this long and no one thought firearm.

Mall (14:28)

Yeah. No cops, no nothing around. It's like, well, this is not. This isn't real. Like, you can't do nothing without police pulling up now. So. Yeah, I don't know. It was. It was cool. I guess if you're a scary movie movie, you know, like part of that, like, hive where, you know, they have like a whole high. People, like, watch every series. And if you're one of those, I'm guessing you might have enjoyed it. But it was okay for me. It wasn't.

Rory (14:48)

It wasn't all of that I saw on Twitter. I don't know if it was real or not, but there was a trailer for Scary Movie seven or whatever one we're on at this point. And they were making fun of Scream in it again, Scary Movie six.

Mall (15:01)

So they're releasing these in conjunction.

Rory (15:05)

It seems like now that would be the smart play.

Mall (15:08)

Yeah, yeah.

Rory (15:09)

But, yeah, I did see they start with a transgender joke, so everyone was upset about it, but I don't know the actual date. But it has everyone from the original cast dope.

Mall (15:19)

So, you know another 50 plus year old woman that you, Regina Hall. Did I. Did I say. Did I put her in the absolute section? Baby D, when you asked.

Damaris (15:27)

I'm sure you did.

Mall (15:28)

Yeah. Regina Hall. Absolutely.

Rory (15:30)

I think that goes without saying.

Mall (15:31)

50 plus. Yeah, absolutely.

Rory (15:32)

100 definitely goes without saying.

Mall (15:34)

She looks amazing.

Rory (15:35)

It was a lot of music going on this weekend. Where do we want to begin? Do we want to. We want to start with this, this ti in 50 thing.

Damaris (15:44)

Do we want to start with disses to get it.

Rory (15:46)

Get it out of the way?

Mall (15:47)

How much longer do we got on this, though?

Rory (15:49)

Seriously, Baby D, I thought the clock was on last Monday.

Mall (15:52)

You know what I. Let me tell y'.

Damaris (15:53)

All.

Mall (15:53)

Let me tell you what I don't.

Rory (15:54)

Now they got Benzino wearing T shirts.

Damaris (15:56)

Yeah.

Mall (15:56)

Let me tell you what I don't like about this 50 ti thing. Because y' all came here or. I don't know if y' all said it, but I've seen people online. 50 gotta respond. 50 gotta respond. I was wondering about it. But why, like, why did he have to respond? And not only that, this is another thing that I didn't like about this whole thing. Isn't TI a comedian? Why? He just couldn't keep it. Trolling, keeping jokes.

Rory (16:17)

Cause he's a rapper too.

Mall (16:19)

Yeah, but 58 put out a record to him. He posted a picture of his wife. Like, TI Just had a comedy special. Just have one. He's. He's a comedian. Like, he's all the way a comedian. He's more of a funny guy than 50 at this point.

Rory (16:33)

So he should do like pop ups the way Chappelle did and like maybe do a setup.

Mall (16:39)

What about doing skits on Instagram? Distant50. What about doing a skit?

Rory (16:43)

Like, my name's tip, but here's another tip. Crimestoppers.com like something like that.

Mall (16:46)

What about that?

Rory (16:47)

Like one of those skits.

Mall (16:47)

I'm just saying. I just rapping. I just think. And the fact that T. I just put out A song. He had a song with. Pharrell produced it, right?

Rory (16:55)

Yep. Which is great. And it's doing numbers. No, it's actually a very popular.

Mall (16:59)

No, listen, so I understand why TI would get into it. Behooves the business of it.

Rory (17:04)

I'm never mad at rappers rapping, though.

Mall (17:05)

I'm not mad at that. But it behooves the business to get into a back and forth with 50, knowing that I have a new song produced by Pharrell, available now on dsps. It all helps the brand. The King family. It helps. It helps. It helps the family hustle, if you will. Right, of course. So we understand that. I'm just saying, how much longer do we have for this, though? Because I get it. You know, Damani is in there. And you know Damani shit is only hitting when King put his pin to it. You know that.

Damaris (17:32)

You mean other way? You mean King shit only hitting when

Mall (17:34)

Damani puts his pin? Whichever one that put out a song, I'm gonna always flip it. Wait, so Damani just put out a joint? King put his pin to it? That's the only time.

Rory (17:41)

Is Damani Diggy and then King is Jojo?

Mall (17:46)

I think Damani is older.

Rory (17:48)

I know, but Diggy was the better rapper. No disrespect to Jojo, but he's more King in this situation.

Mall (17:53)

Okay. Yeah. Even though he's the older brother.

Rory (17:56)

How many kids does TI have?

Damaris (17:59)

So, see, they have.

Mall (18:00)

He's a family man. Family hustle.

Damaris (18:01)

They have seven all together. They have seven altogether.

Rory (18:04)

This is gonna be a long battle. Yeah, it's gonna be a long battle.

Damaris (18:06)

They have. Yeah, they have seven.

Rory (18:07)

Only two kids have released diss tracks. We got five more to go.

Mall (18:12)

Yeah, I'm just. Listen and listen. I get it.

Rory (18:15)

Don't. Don't let Tiny get a sheet of paper.

Mall (18:17)

I get. Listen. I get it.

Rory (18:19)

And get the girls together. I get it.

Mall (18:21)

But how much more time do we have for this, though? Like. I get it. I understand. Let's capitalize off the moment. Salute to the Hustle. It's grand hustle. It's family hustle. I'm not mad at the Hustle. I'm just saying how much longer do we have before we, like. All right, we can move on from this. That's all I'm asking.

Rory (18:40)

I'm about to call you until TI's album.

Mall (18:42)

Why are you calling us out?

Damaris (18:43)

Because you niggas is so. This is why. They be saying y' all got New York bias. This is why. Because even with everything that's going on play Damani's this. Play Damani's this. Damani's diss is fire, bro. Damani, we have this. First of all. Yes. I knew that Damani was a good rapper, right?

Mall (19:02)

Yes.

Rory (19:02)

I want to make that clear.

Damaris (19:03)

He doesn't get the. He doesn't get the. You know, not as many people know how good he is. But this is now an opportunity everybody is seeing. Oh, not like this nigga's nice. Like T. I got this. Like, this is his seed. Yes, it is. This nigga is nice. But now it's. How long do we got for this? Like, y' all be asking for real rap all day long. Like, we're the real rappers. There's. There's a lack of talent. There's a lack of talent. The talent comes now. It's how long do we have for this? That's.

Mall (19:28)

I would. I'm. I'm not mad if Damani puts out mute, but, like, I'm just talking about with this whole ti and his family versus 50 thing. How much longer do we have for this?

Rory (19:37)

And Damani is a great rapper and rapped really well on his Ms. Jackson diss. But can I say that there's a lack of creativity? Cause this is just some Diet Meet the Grams bullshit.

Damaris (19:46)

Now. Every time somebody comes at somebody's mom, now it's me.

Rory (19:50)

No, no, no, no, no, no. This is. All right, Damaris. Now you're playing semantic games. You know for a fact this is just a diet meet the Grams. It's the exact same.

Damaris (19:58)

How is this a diet Meet the Grams?

Rory (20:00)

Go listen to Meet the Grams and then go listen to Ms. Jackson. It's the same thing. Trying to do the psychological breakdown of your past and this and that. Like, he's even whispering the way Kendrick did. It's the same thing.

Damaris (20:10)

That's how he raps.

Rory (20:11)

And. And also, I'm the old head. Get off my lawn. I've already seen Jadakiss and Styles P smoke the beat against 50. I don't need to hear it again. I don't.

Damaris (20:21)

Okay. Did they address his mom?

Rory (20:22)

And. And Ghost already did that. And it's one of the greatest dis of all time.

Damaris (20:27)

Okay.

Rory (20:28)

Damani, I think, is more talented than just saying, you know what? Me, the Grams happened. Let me just go do that. And that is with. With. With 50s entire life that he's already told us about.

Mall (20:39)

I just want to know how much. How much more time. Whatever, bro.

Damaris (20:42)

That's hate. Like, I. I'm. I'mma call it. That's. Hey, before Everybody else can call you a hater. I'm gonna call you a hater first.

Mall (20:46)

Me.

Damaris (20:47)

That's it. You not as loud with it. He's hating.

Mall (20:50)

How am I hating?

Damaris (20:52)

He's hating. That's hate, bro.

Rory (20:54)

How is it, bro?

Mall (20:55)

I didn't say I hated it. I just. How much time we got left for it?

Damaris (20:57)

That's fine. What he's talking about is hate. That's hate.

Mall (21:00)

Oh, being a diet.

Damaris (21:02)

Yeah, that's hate, bro. That's hate.

Rory (21:04)

Okay, Is it. Is it accurate hate? No, no, that's fine. I could be a hater.

Damaris (21:11)

So you're telling me that. That Miss Meet the Grams I know. Kendrick Lamar is the first. That's the first. The first this song that has ever existed.

Mall (21:18)

How he's saying that. Everything about this one is.

Rory (21:22)

It's like when. It's like when Bia did the diet, like, that beat. A week after like that came out, it's like, okay, that's a little too on the nose of what you're trying to do. You're just copying another.

Damaris (21:33)

So is he copying Meet the Grims, or is he copying Jada kissing them because the beat was used by, like. That's. That's an obvious flip. That's an obvious disc.

Rory (21:40)

They just added them as Jackson shit at the end.

Mall (21:42)

Yeah, the sample was.

Rory (21:42)

A sample was a hook.

Mall (21:44)

The hook.

Damaris (21:44)

The.

Mall (21:45)

Ms. Jackson was the hook.

Rory (21:46)

I'm not hating when somebody says, are you happy with the way he's been holding your family name? I need to know because I can't sleep at night thinking you died in vain.

Damaris (21:55)

You're. Yes, You're a hater. Yes, actually. Yes, you're a hater. You're definitely a hater, bro.

Rory (21:59)

You're a hater. Sleep at night thinking about.

Damaris (22:02)

Now we breaking down every word in a. I thought we were supposed to.

Rory (22:05)

I thought it was rap, man.

Damaris (22:06)

Get the bro.

Mall (22:08)

I thought we was dissecting the bars.

Damaris (22:10)

All right?

Mall (22:10)

Nah.

Damaris (22:11)

All right.

Rory (22:12)

I'm a hater for laughing at Damani losing sleep. Now I'm a hater because he lost sleep thinking about if Sabrina died in vain. He's tossing and turning. Okay, here's my thing. I can't prove this, and you can call me a hater, but I can almost guarantee when everyone came in the studio, Damani, right before he had Space Bar, said, yo, I got him with some Meet the Graham shit and hit Space Bar.

Damaris (22:37)

Oh, my God.

Rory (22:39)

I can almost guarantee he was in the group chat saying, yo, King did that. I'm gonna go with the Meet the Grams approach. I guarantee it.

Mall (22:46)

I'm not. I'm not mad at that.

Rory (22:47)

I.

Mall (22:48)

Meet the Grams was definitely mentioned in this session, 1,000%. Somebody in that session. I don't know if Damani said it. The engineer said it. Somebody said, you should go this way, yo, go meet the Grams.

Damaris (22:57)

Am I saying that there's not Go

Mall (23:00)

Meet the Grams on them?

Damaris (23:01)

Am I saying that there's not a similarity to the approach? Sure. But you saying he's even whispering and do. That's how Damani raps. But you would know that because you don't listen to Damani. But that's how Damani raps.

Mall (23:11)

You don't listen to.

Damaris (23:14)

But this is. But I. I knew. I knew was good because I've heard Damani out so that I. So I know no matter whether I'm his biggest fan or not, so I know that that's the way that he raps. He didn't just start when you talk about. So he just started whispering like Kendrick. That's how the Rat.

Rory (23:32)

I've heard him freestyle, and he did not whisper.

Damaris (23:34)

Okay, that's a freestyle. That's not him making. Okay. At the end of the day, if you want. I thought you were gonna come in here and call him a Diet. A Diet Three stacks or a Diet J. Cole. He's heard that his whole career. That's whatever.

Rory (23:45)

I've heard the J. Cole comparisons, but I actually thought that was a. A, A compliment, yo, for sure.

Damaris (23:49)

Definitely. That's my favorite rapper. Of course that's a compliment. But if you were to come with that, sure. But to say that he was, like, copying Kendrick with the whispering and the Meet the gram. That's just the way he raps, bro.

Rory (23:57)

And I'm also. I'm not mad at flipping Ms. Jackson just because Kiss and Ghost did it. That's fine. Continue to do that. I just. I don't know, man.

Mall (24:07)

I, I.

Rory (24:08)

It's D, Meet the Gramps. What do you want from me? Listen, man, he rap is great. He broke down Shitty's whole psyche, and now I look at 50 way different.

Damaris (24:17)

Oh, my God. Yo, you. Yo, it's. I just. I just like seeing people.

Mall (24:22)

He a hater, Baby D, he's a hater.

Damaris (24:24)

That is crazy. And it's. I'll be sitting up here trying to defend y' all when people say y' all have a new bias.

Rory (24:29)

I have a New York bias. I have 50 cent bias. What do you want from me?

Mall (24:31)

I'm from New York. I mean, I'm gonna have a bias.

Rory (24:34)

I have a 50 cent bias. Yes.

Damaris (24:35)

Cool. Say that then before. Preface that before you start hating. Preface that. Preface with that.

Mall (24:40)

I'm just.

Rory (24:41)

But I'm also saying that I'm just

Mall (24:42)

happy somebody else is being called a hater. That's for once did they call me a hater every day. And I'm like, I don't care about none of these enough to hate on them. But. But whatever. Go ahead, call him hater again. Baby D hating ass.

Damaris (24:52)

Because had he been this is somebody other than your fave, you would have been on it. You would have been.

Rory (24:56)

This is.

Damaris (24:56)

This might have been. This is the greatest thing. We've been waiting for real hip hop to come back. And it's back. You guys aren't excited it's back?

Rory (25:02)

No, no, no, no.

Mall (25:03)

I don't know if anybody would say that about Damani being a real hip hop.

Damaris (25:05)

Rory don't gas shit up like that.

Mall (25:07)

That's for sure.

Rory (25:08)

I say real hip hop is back.

Mall (25:09)

It's 87 unleaded for sure. But I'm just saying, like, I don't think he would say that about Demani.

Rory (25:13)

But this is where she's wrong when she said if. If he was dissing anyone else but your fave. You would love that. I just said one of the greatest diss records of all time is Kiss and ghost on the Ms. Jackson beat against 50 Cent. Some of my favorite disses of all time are against 57. Checkmate is the greatest ever.

Damaris (25:30)

Is dissing your fave. Of course you're going to pick like, duh game.

Rory (25:33)

300 bars in running is. Should be in the fucking museum.

Damaris (25:36)

Another one of your faves.

Rory (25:38)

But he's not from New York.

Damaris (25:39)

He's still one of your faves. It's okay. You have biases. That's what we all do.

Mall (25:44)

Well, I just want the clap. I just want to know how much time clap back.

Rory (25:46)

I love who else?

Mall (25:48)

Everyone dis 50 between 50 and well,

Damaris (25:50)

t. OMG girls might come for that ass next. Who knows? Who knows? I think it's.

Rory (25:57)

I wish 50, like cared about rapping because the amount of flips you could do with escape is fucking unbelievable. Like, can someone. I wish Banks and him were still friends. Can somebody step in?

Mall (26:08)

No, I don't think anybody needs to step in on this. I think. I think it's like, okay, cool. We heard from TI we heard from King, we heard from Damani. Dope got your shit off. Cool.

Damaris (26:20)

I think that's cool. I think a family jumping like one rapper.

Mall (26:23)

I think that's Listen, man, listen, listen. I respect it. I get it. I'm just saying, like, TI Is a comedian too, though. It could have just been jokes if it was. I mean, it could have just stayed.

Damaris (26:32)

If TI Went and made a fucking sketch on IG like you just said, you niggas would be clowning him from here to fucking just on brand.

Mall (26:42)

He's. He's a comedian now. Why not?

Rory (26:45)

The amount of ammo. 50 could really just rap that. It's crazy. Another man brought your family together. Like, there's so much ammo here.

Damaris (26:53)

You write it in.

Mall (26:55)

I mean, I. I'll.

Rory (26:56)

I'll DM it to him. It can be left on a.

Mall (27:00)

Let me know when you press in on that DM. Let me read the DM you sent 50.

Rory (27:04)

No, no context. It would just be bars. I don't care if you don't believe me. I think Damani's. This is good.

Damaris (27:13)

Okay. Do you like.

Rory (27:14)

I do. I really.

Damaris (27:16)

It's fine now. You gotta clean it up like, you know, we was off camera. It's fine. How. How do you feel about side highs?

Mall (27:22)

Are we getting right to that?

Damaris (27:23)

We. We in this.

Mall (27:24)

We in this world.

Damaris (27:25)

We in this world now.

Mall (27:26)

Oh, oh, oh. I didn't know we was going right there, baby.

Damaris (27:31)

Let's just stay on disses.

Mall (27:32)

All right.

Rory (27:33)

Well, okay. Well, I believe money is a great rapper, but when a Bentley pulls up next to a Chrysler.

Damaris (27:41)

Oh, yeah. These a little different, these bars.

Mall (27:44)

It's a little.

Rory (27:47)

I'm not talking about the jet. Did you listen to the whole song? Because the song is not a J. Cold. Is there a J. Cole slight in it? For sure.

Damaris (27:55)

For sure.

Mall (27:56)

Yeah.

Rory (27:56)

But it's also seven minutes of the greatest rapping I've heard in quite some time.

Damaris (28:00)

That's what's up.

Rory (28:01)

It's no Damani on Ms. Jackson, but see, it's Damani.

Mall (28:06)

And then there's like.

Rory (28:07)

Cause you got Saha didn't lose sleep Chris.

Mall (28:09)

Ruth Chris is. You know what I mean? You got Ruth Chris. You got different steakhouses, but then there's just like, you know, the upper echelon of the steakhouses. Like, this is what Saha does. He's a wordsmith. He's a ball technician. Like, Saha is one of the best rappers that we've ever had, like, by far. And I think that on this is it Lost Control.

Rory (28:29)

Yeah.

Mall (28:29)

On his Lost Control record, he displayed that like he's one of the best rappers. It's not a lot of. It's not the only thing. My only Knock. And Saha is. That's my nigga. But my only knock on Saha is that he doesn't have the material that a lot of these other people that we think are the best MCs and the best rappers have. His output is not as high as a lot of these other artists. But as far as just rapping, there's not a lot of rappers that could rap with Saha.

Rory (28:58)

I. I hear you with the output, but no Dope on Sundays is, to me, like a classic album.

Mall (29:04)

Yeah, but that was, what, 10 years ago?

Rory (29:06)

Yeah, but I mean, it appears that he is rolling something out because we got no competition 12 days ago. Then we get lost control. And it. It feels like these are more Lucy's where he's just rapping through, but this seems to be somewhat of a rollout. So he had tweeted the.

Mall (29:23)

The.

Rory (29:23)

I grew up in an era where you're a lyricist. We're from the streets, not a bunch of college kids. Whatever. We talked about that before. Then on the 26th, he said, I wasn't talking about J. Cole. Saha, you my man's. But you definitely were like.

Mall (29:37)

I mean, if he said he wasn't,

Rory (29:39)

you are one of the greatest rappers I've ever heard. You are. But it's okay.

Mall (29:43)

If he said he wasn't. We gotta take that.

Rory (29:45)

What's wrong if he was?

Mall (29:47)

No, it's nothing wrong. But that's what I'm saying. That's why if he's saying he wasn't, then he wasn't. Because obviously he has no problem going that cold. Obviously. So that's what I'm saying. If he said he wasn't, I believe him, because then he gives us lost control.

Rory (29:59)

So from that tweet, whatever it was, then on the 26th, he said, I wasn't talking about J. Cole, but since y' all reminded me, and then put a snippet out with this, which, outside of it being an amazing display of rapping, he did say he needed to get him back for the False Prophets record, which, for those that don't know, Cole was dissing. Well, not dissing. Cole was explaining where he felt Kanye west was at the time in the False Prophets record. And in that record, he described that maybe the people around him are too scared to bring up that you've fallen off and you whack. And I can see Cy High taking offense to that, like you trying to make me out to be some yes man, this and that.

Mall (30:38)

But because Saha is around. Yeah, he's right.

Rory (30:41)

Especially around that time, right?

Mall (30:42)

With him. Yeah.

Rory (30:44)

At this point, no one's going to tell him like y' all are a bunch of yes men around him is what someone could take from what Cole said. Said. How long ago was that, bruh? When it false prophets come out.

Damaris (30:54)

I'm looking it up right now.

Mall (30:56)

That was a while ago.

Damaris (30:57)

A hit dog gonna holler.

Mall (30:59)

I mean, so I was holding. He was holding that in. He was like, okay, I'm not gonna forget that. I heard you.

Rory (31:04)

To me, that's really where that tweet

Damaris (31:07)

2016, 10 years ago.

Rory (31:08)

Okay, so let me ask you guys this. Is there two six, two six n why? He was waiting.

Mall (31:18)

He was waiting.

Rory (31:19)

And two six on the 26th, 2-2-26th.

Mall (31:24)

Exactly.

Rory (31:25)

Who's the two six God now? I think his name is Saha, the Prince.

Mall (31:29)

Listen, this is some high level rap, Baby D. This is high level bars. This is high level bars.

Damaris (31:34)

That's what's up.

Mall (31:35)

These is high level. Yo, you. I ain't gonna say it yet.

Rory (31:38)

She.

Mall (31:38)

But it sound like it feel like you wanna. You wanna hate me. I'm not gonna call you a hater.

Damaris (31:43)

No, you can never hate Outside High being a good rapper.

Mall (31:45)

Okay, all right, all right. We never do that.

Rory (31:47)

It was high level bars throughout the record. Think they were just slight little jabs at cold spa session.

Mall (31:52)

He said at the end, this is just rap. It's just a little spa session.

Rory (31:55)

You. You were scared of our good brother in that grand national. Why? Should have knew you and that little Honda was going to have to collide.

Mall (32:02)

All right, my question to the room.

Damaris (32:04)

High level for sure.

Mall (32:05)

My.

Rory (32:05)

I said that was your solution.

Mall (32:06)

N. All right, now you. Now you here.

Rory (32:07)

See, that's this hate. That's hate.

Mall (32:09)

Now you put up this hate. Now you put up to the hatem. You at the hate right now.

Rory (32:14)

You just put in your code 26. 26.

Mall (32:18)

Pull that cash out the hatem. Now, my question to y', all, because y' all are like super J. Cole fans, right? Does J. Cole have to respond?

Rory (32:28)

It was too light. He doesn't have to because it was too light. Do I want him to?

Mall (32:35)

Yes, baby.

Damaris (32:37)

D. I have said a million times when spread Freddie. When Freddie Gibbs was.

Mall (32:43)

He was about to call him Spready Gibbs.

Rory (32:44)

Yeah.

Mall (32:44)

No, baby, we not doing that. I heard the spread he was about to do. Spread. He was about to call him Spready Gibbs. Freddie Gibbs. Okay?

Damaris (32:50)

Freddie Gibbs was shooting at Cole. I have already said Cole cannot respond to anybody. It is a lose lose situation that he has handicapped himself. He can't respond to anybody. So, no, I don't want him to respond.

Mall (33:01)

Wait, but when I said that, y' all killed me by what, my cold can't respond.

Damaris (33:05)

I didn't kill you for that. I agree with you.

Mall (33:07)

Nah, we gotta roll with Tay back. I don't know if you agree.

Damaris (33:10)

I have been saying that.

Mall (33:11)

You've never agreed with me on nothing, J. Cole,

Rory (33:15)

except that his name is Jermaine.

Mall (33:16)

Yeah.

Damaris (33:17)

He can't resp. Like, you can't respond. It's a lose, lose situation. Salute. You can do. You can do whatever you want, but I don't want to have to hear people talk about it. So please don't. Like, I was like, it's a lose, lose situation.

Mall (33:28)

So wait, J. Cole don't respond to nobody for the rest of his career.

Damaris (33:31)

That's how I feel. I've said that, though. I've said that.

Mall (33:35)

I feel like I said that. Y' all killed me for that.

Damaris (33:37)

No, you said his career was over, and I laughed you out.

Mall (33:41)

I said career suicide. Meaning, like, that when somebody. When the MC challenges, he can't. Because you can't pick and choose and now look like you picking and choosing.

Damaris (33:48)

Exactly.

Mall (33:49)

I don't remember that being your sentiment, but if you. If you feel like that I'm respecting it, I've stood on it. Yeah.

Rory (33:55)

So, I mean, Cole did reply to some Fayetteville rappers on the Fall off

Damaris (34:00)

what's funny as fuck, but I feel like that was hometown shit. Like, that's hometown shit. That's like, personal shit. That's like arguing with somebody on Facebook you went to high school with. Like.

Rory (34:09)

But at the same time, no one really gave him shit for that.

Damaris (34:11)

That.

Rory (34:12)

I was actually kind of shocked that the world wasn't like, okay, you do a full disc, record something, but not

Damaris (34:18)

a lot of people don't even know that that's what he's doing.

Rory (34:21)

Okay. Yeah, because that was just. That was direct. This is to specific rappers in fu. Like, it wasn't really something to hide. It was a dis record.

Mall (34:30)

Wait, so J. Cole does not have to respond?

Rory (34:32)

He.

Mall (34:32)

He said, tell St. John the balls just ain't. Ain't that jaw drop.

Rory (34:36)

He was talking. He was talking about St. John.

Mall (34:38)

No, he wasn't. He was talking about the guy that went to St. John. Like, I'm just.

Rory (34:43)

You forgot. I still owe you. From False Prophets. I rap punch lines as hard as Bernard Hopkins. There ain't no yes Men over here. My dog. Stop it. I mean, these are. These are direct responses. I wouldn't say they're shots, per se.

Mall (34:56)

Tell St. John that them raps just ain't that jaw dropping that's challenging the MC's pin.

Rory (35:01)

I agree.

Mall (35:02)

What we talking about? We supposed to. You want him to disrespect, like, call J. Cole a bitch or something like that? Like, he ain't gonna do that. He just like, yo, your bars ain't that dope as an mc. See, you was supposed to be like, wait, who he told N. Hold on. All right, that's. This is his rap. Like he. Like he said at the end of the record, it's just rap. It ain't personal. It ain't beef. It ain't none of that. It's just bars let's do.

Damaris (35:20)

But even if he comes and bars s high to the gods, even if he was to do that, in a world he was to come and bar side, none of y' all will respect it anyway. So what is that?

Mall (35:29)

I wouldn't. Who wouldn't respect it?

Rory (35:30)

I was the one that said 50 Cent needs to R back to TI and now Damani, who's definitely JCO's nephew because he's losing sleep too.

Mall (35:37)

What are you basing this off of, baby? Why are you saying we wouldn't respect it? It.

Damaris (35:39)

Because y' all gonna say he. You just said it. Y' all gonna say he's picking and choosing you.

Mall (35:44)

I'm say that regardless. But I'm not gonna say if his boss is dope. You think I'm gonna say his balls ain't dope?

Damaris (35:48)

No, that's not what I'm saying.

Mall (35:49)

All right.

Damaris (35:50)

This conversation will always go back to who he didn't respond to or who.

Rory (35:54)

Who.

Damaris (35:54)

What he up.

Mall (35:55)

We know. We. We know that. Like, we going into it. We know that. We know. Like, yo, bro, you pick you. Because now anybody respond to is picking and choosing.

Damaris (36:01)

Exactly.

Mall (36:02)

You wouldn't respond to this dude, but you respond to that dude. Cool. But we not gonna sit here and be like, the balls is whack just because he picking and choosing. If he go in there and fire si high up, we gonna be like, yo, Cole went crazy. Saha, I. It's on you. This is just like. It's just rap, and it's not personal. I don't think Saha hates J. Cole or has beef with him. No, it's just personal. Like, yo, I just don't think you that dope. Like, you were saying you were scared of our good brother in that Grand National. You should have known that Honda was gonna have to collide like, sooner or later, you gonna have to step in front of another MC as MCs you gonna have. That's what you gotta do.

Damaris (36:37)

And. But. Okay, y' all think Si High is doing this for. Because I think we can all agree, as talented as Si High is, he knows because he's so talented, he knows talent. He knows that J. Cole is not. Them bars ain't all that like you. Like you.

Mall (36:52)

Maybe he feel like it's not. I'm just saying, when you. When you an emcee, you look at other MCs differently. You look at their bars differently. You look at their entendres and all that. Their ability to write differently. As a writer. Saha is a writer. He writes for himself. He writes for other rappers, other artists. So he probably looking at Cole like his balls ain't that layered. His balls ain't that cold. Like, he might really feel like that.

Damaris (37:15)

There's so many other niggas who. He might. Who are less talented than J. Cole that he can say that about. But he didn't diss.

Mall (37:20)

Yeah, but you gotta shoot at the best. Who they say is the best? You go to somebody park as a ball player, baby. Yo, who they say the best over here, yo. Come on, get on the court. Get your five. I got my five. That's how I go. You don't wanna go at the nigga who they like. Yo, he trash. Let me play him. So you ain't gonna play the trash nigga. Who y' all say is the best? All right, come on. I need to see who y' all best is. Show me, y'.

Damaris (37:40)

All.

Mall (37:40)

Show me y'. All king. This your king. I bet. I want smoke on him. Let me see where he at. I just think it's. Again, it's just good. It's good for the art of hip hop, for the art of rap, for the best MCs to just have a. Like I said, it's not beef Saha. I don't have a beef with Cole. He just like, all right, man. Like, you think you. You know, you one of those ones. I don't think you. I don't think your bars is that hard. I respect it. Again, I don't think Cole will respond. I think he should. I think he should respond. I don't think he's going to respond, though.

Rory (38:14)

You don't feel like Saha believes what

Mall (38:16)

he rapped there about J. Cole?

Rory (38:19)

I'm asking embarrass. I think Saha respects Cole's pen to the point that he said his name. You're right. He could diss a whole bunch of other people. But Saha is not going to diss a bunch of rappers that are trash.

Damaris (38:31)

It's rappers that's not trash that he didn't diss.

Rory (38:33)

Well, they didn't. They didn't call him a yes man.

Damaris (38:35)

I bring this up even with the I bring and I decide. I stand. I stand. He dissed him. He didn't even diss him. He didn't even diss him. He said people around Kanye need to tell him that he falling off. He could be talking about. He could have been talking about Kim Kardashian, like. But you took that personally. Now, you took that personally because you shot at Cole in your tweet. Everybody acknowledged it, and now you got songs coming out, and now it's, well, yeah, since y' all brought up Cole, here's a couple bars towards.

Rory (39:01)

If I'm writing something, somebody's music at that exact time, and you say your is not what it used to be, it's falling off. It's trash. And I'm the one writing it in my rapper brain. I'm gonna be like, yo, what the.

Damaris (39:13)

Well, you had 10 years. Why do you wait? Why do you wait until so many people have lost respect for me because I bowed out of a dis battle and I'm a. I'm a sitting duck. Why do you wait until then? Why do you wait 10 years?

Rory (39:23)

View him that way, but clearly you view J. Cole as that.

Damaris (39:26)

Oh, my God.

Mall (39:27)

The thing is, J. Cole just put our project out, and then Saha tweeted something about, you know, about Cole. Well, he said it wasn't about it, but this is why I respect what Saha said. It wasn't about him because he had no problem then getting in the booth and going at Cole. I wasn't talking about him, but if y' all feel like I'm talking about him now, I'm talking about.

Damaris (39:44)

You tweeted that immediately after the release of the Motherfucking Fall Off. You knew that people would assume it was about Cole mixtape. It was all. All of that was. Was on purpose. All of that was offered.

Mall (39:56)

So you think it's clout chasing.

Damaris (39:57)

I don't. I don't want to say. I don't like cloud chasing. You know, me and you disagree on that. I think it's marketing.

Mall (40:02)

You think it's performative?

Damaris (40:03)

I think it's marketing.

Mall (40:03)

You think it's marketing?

Damaris (40:04)

I think it's marketing.

Rory (40:05)

Can we take that away with rapping, though?

Mall (40:07)

Well, marketing.

Rory (40:08)

No, that anyone that just raps at other rappers is clout chasing.

Mall (40:13)

Nah, we gotta get that idea. Because some things be cloudy.

Damaris (40:15)

We know. He said, no, we gotta keep that there.

Mall (40:17)

We're not. We're not getting rid of that. Some of these is cloud.

Rory (40:19)

The bridge is over is. Is cloud chasing. Like, what I don't understand why now this new generation is allowed to call an art form that has been this way since its inception is clout chasing. If another rapper raps at another rapper.

Mall (40:33)

No, no, no.

Rory (40:33)

But if you are on the Internet doing that shit, you're clout chasing.

Mall (40:36)

No, no, no. It's the timing of it though.

Rory (40:38)

So.

Mall (40:38)

It's the timing of it. I think the timing of it is when it becomes clout chasing. And if you not. I think if you're not on a certain level, I think you can't be. You gotta be on a certain level to go at certain people. I believe that you gotta be at a certain level, a certain skill level. You gotta be at a certain art level. You gotta be at a certain, you know, music making level.

Rory (40:59)

But that's the only people I'm talking about. I'm not talking about IG personalities that become rappers. I'm talking about rappers.

Mall (41:05)

Yeah. So. But even in that, like, you know, to me, this is valid only because of what, like you said what Cole said on False Prophets. Now, no matter if Saha waited 10 years or not to respond, it don't matter. Cole said something on False Prophet years ago that Saha took some type of slight to, felt a little way about and was like, nah, I ain't like that. I still don't think I forgot about that. Waiting 10 years is crazy. Like laying on a nigga for 10 years is wild. Like, all right, I heard what you said in 2016, fam. In 2026, I'm on your ass. That's crazy to me.

Rory (41:42)

But we've seen the battles happen.

Damaris (41:44)

Twenty years later, them bars would have never came out. You could have felt however you felt if the battle never happened, these bar will not come out, bro. That's. And that's where comes marketing, bro.

Mall (41:55)

If.

Rory (41:55)

If the falloff didn't come out, then I'm with you. But I don't. I don't know. If the battle didn't happen, Cole could have been a victor in the battle. And I still think Saha would have done it. If the battle never happened, I still think Sahai does this because the falloff came out.

Damaris (42:07)

Okay, wait 10 years.

Mall (42:09)

Yeah, yeah.

Damaris (42:10)

Okay. Multiple Cole albums have come out in

Rory (42:13)

the past But SA wasn't rolling out at the time, which.

Damaris (42:18)

And this is. No, I don't want anybody to take this as. As any dis to.

Rory (42:22)

How long did. How long did Cole wait to reply to all the. The two Fayetteville guys? 20 years.

Mall (42:28)

Yeah, he probably. That was.

Rory (42:29)

No, I'm not even joking. No, it was at least 15 years.

Damaris (42:32)

It's a Fville based album. The album is about Fville.

Mall (42:37)

I thought it was the fall off.

Damaris (42:39)

It's dedicated to his hometown. Like that's why it started the way that it started.

Rory (42:43)

Okay. And this is dedicated to rapping. And. And don't forget that I still owe you from False Prophets.

Mall (42:48)

Either way.

Rory (42:49)

Don't forget.

Mall (42:50)

I feel like Cole has to respond, though. I feel like he should respond. Let me not say have to. He should respond. I feel like J. Cole should respond, but we'll have to see if he does indeed. You know, jump in the ring with Si High. That would be a dope back and forth though. I will say that to see them two go at it fire, I would

Rory (43:07)

treat it like a completely different thing. I would actually fault Si High if he just focused on Cole dropping out of the battle. To me, that, yeah, of course get bars off on that. But if that's your focus, I don't want to hear that. Yeah, find a new angle. This would be a completely separate thing if Cole replies. I would like to say that, but either way, I don't know. It looks like Saha is in the best shape he's ever been. In between, no competition.

Damaris (43:28)

He has music coming out, so we look forward to it.

Rory (43:31)

He's shape. Shape.

Mall (43:31)

Hell yeah.

Rory (43:32)

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Mall (44:37)

I hate fame. I hate the word celebrity. I hate those words. They make me uncomfortable. But I think when you get to a certain point, the fame or the success or the influence, it just accentuates and exacerbates the inherent person that you are. The guy that says he's always going to be there and that will do anything to be there is the only guy that's not there. I'm in Australia when Beau was born. My whole identity is that no matter what, I'm gonna prioritize my wife and my children over my job. I dread the conversation with my son.

Rory (45:09)

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Rory (45:42)

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Damaris (45:43)

Yeah, they was dressed up in their uniform. The KKK set out to raid Charlie, take him away from here.

Mall (45:51)

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Damaris (45:59)

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Damaris (46:39)

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Rory (46:41)

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Damaris (47:00)

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Rory (47:02)

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Damaris (47:04)

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Rory (47:07)

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Damaris (47:12)

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Rory (47:19)

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Damaris (48:07)

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Mall (48:22)

All right, Rory, we got some new music over the weekend. Of course. I feel like we get new music every. Every weekend. I don't feel like it's one weekend where we don't get new rap, new R B. It's too much. It's too much.

Damaris (48:33)

Shit is there.

Mall (48:34)

We need to take like a month off when nobody could put out music.

Damaris (48:36)

I don't like that.

Mall (48:38)

Why? I think it gives you a chance to kind of hear everything. Like, that came out. Shit you might have missed. Cause Concrete Boys came out with a new album. Shout out to Lil Yachty and the crew. Shout out to my guy Blue Boat.

Rory (48:47)

No, I mean, it was tough to get to any music this weekend. Cause I couldn't get off the Yachty freestyle. I just had that on repeat.

Mall (48:52)

Now. Lil Yachty was on bootleg Kev, and he was talking about how, you know, he heard Sugar Hill Gang and that shit was weak as hell. Right? And we talked about that, like, can't disrespect the foundation. Cause so much was built on the foundation and on the backs of what the Sugar Hill Gang did. And now hip hop being what it is today and rap being as global as it is, you can't say that yachty and then give us your rendition of the LA Leaguers freestyle. It just was like.

Rory (49:24)

It wasn't a rendition. He was on there.

Mall (49:25)

I mean. Yeah, but was he the. Was that the Yachty we know and love?

Rory (49:30)

It was a clone.

Mall (49:31)

Like, who? I'm just saying. Was it though? Like, that's All I'm saying, like, we can't get that on bootleg Kev of Sugar Hill Gang being weak as hell. And then get that Leakers freestyle. Like, it's just like, you supposed to go on leakers and do what, you know, nobody has ever done. Like, if you gonna say that the Sugar Hill Gang was weak as hell. That's all I'm saying.

Rory (49:55)

Where does that rank against?

Mall (49:56)

See, lost for words. Rory, are you okay? Are you lost for words?

Rory (50:00)

I'm trying to be, because I was a hater this whole time. I'm trying to find a way because they're going to think I'm just hating on Atlanta. It's like when someone loses in a boxing match. Yo, they got in the ring.

Mall (50:11)

Yeah. That's half the battle, right? Taking the fight.

Rory (50:13)

He went to leakers. I want to say that existed. He showed up and went in front of the microphone. What happened after that?

Mall (50:19)

Yeah,

Rory (50:22)

come on, man. That's your man.

Mall (50:23)

That's my guy. That's my guy.

Rory (50:25)

I. With Yachty as my thing.

Mall (50:26)

Yeah.

Rory (50:29)

Why?

Mall (50:30)

Why did he go on LA Leakers?

Rory (50:31)

Yeah.

Mall (50:32)

I mean, it's a roll out for the album. Conque Boys.

Rory (50:35)

Here's my thing. I think Yachty is actually a great marketer and I. I think there was some calculation to what he did with the rapper's light thing. He knows how to ruffle the feathers of the get off my lawn. Golden age hip hop crowd. Why he didn't take that opportunity to go on leakers and rap over the rapper's delight beat is beyond me. Because that would have been okay. I would have listened to the Concrete Boys album had he done that.

Mall (51:00)

Okay.

Rory (51:00)

I've been like, you know what, Yachty? I don't think you're good at rapping, but, boy, is that amazing and hilarious because that was one of, like, the. Where does that rank against, like, Omelly's freestyle on Sweet Way?

Mall (51:11)

Don't we not see.

Rory (51:13)

Don't I want no issues with nobody?

Mall (51:14)

No, no, no. But don't do that, though. Don't, don't. Don't compare Yachty's leakers to Omelly's free. Don't do that. Don't do that. It's different.

Rory (51:23)

I respect Omelly for actually freestyling. Nobody does that for sure. So that's why I'm actually saying it was better than Yachty's.

Mall (51:28)

I'm not mad at that. Lil Yachty rapping over the Sugar Hill Gang. That would.

Rory (51:33)

I thought that when I saw the leaker, I was like, he must have picked that.

Mall (51:37)

He might need to make that a record. He might need to make that a song. Take that Sugar Hill beat and make a record for sure. Cause I'm not mad at that. Like Yachty is that type of artist where he takes sounds and things that you normally wouldn't see him on and actually does a great job of doing that. So I'm not mad at that. That's a good take.

Rory (51:55)

I didn't listen to the Concrete Boys album.

Mall (51:58)

Neither did I.

Rory (51:59)

It's Us Volume two. And again, I don't think Yachty's looking for people like me, me to like his music.

Mall (52:05)

I'm going to listen to it though. I just didn't listen to it this weekend, but I am, I'm probably not

Rory (52:08)

going to, but I mean, I'm sure it's for somebody.

Mall (52:13)

It's not for you. For us. By you. It's not. No. Okay.

Rory (52:22)

All right. I. Did you listen to It's Us Volume one? Because I actually did listen to that.

Mall (52:26)

I listened to that one. I, I, I listen to the last. I didn't listen to, to this latest one though. Too much music.

Rory (52:32)

It's just not my, it's not my pocket. They're just not my pocket.

Mall (52:34)

Okay, that's fair. There's nothing wrong with that.

Rory (52:37)

I, I thought about clicking it, cuz it's Caribou's gone.

Mall (52:41)

And like, did you want, you want to hear what they did?

Damaris (52:44)

We hear what they did without Boo.

Rory (52:45)

Yeah, but I also think she's trash.

Mall (52:50)

Don't do that, man. Come on, man.

Rory (52:52)

Why? All right, can I say that and it not be hate?

Mall (52:55)

Yeah, Kenny. Because when I do it, it's hate.

Rory (52:58)

I don't, I don't.

Mall (53:00)

I'm just saying whenever I say somebody's trash or something is trash or a song is trash or. I didn't like that. They call me a hater.

Rory (53:07)

I think Yachty is talented in his own right. I Hope Yachty sells 10 million records. I hope Caribou sells 10 million records. I just don't care.

Mall (53:14)

Still, that's. Hey, he had the hate.

Rory (53:16)

And with you on the radar.

Mall (53:17)

Give him your pin, baby.

Rory (53:18)

D. The on the radar that she did. I know. Got like a. I know it's for somebody.

Mall (53:23)

People liked it, just not for you.

Rory (53:25)

And then when it, it, they exposed that or Yachty exposed that he wrote it. And I was like, why would you want to take credit for that? And just. You should have just let her have that one.

Mall (53:39)

Yachty did this. Caribbean was with the group. And then she was gone. And then we saw them.

Rory (53:43)

And then Yachty, yo, I wrote your verse and then I was like, wait, somebody wrote that?

Damaris (53:47)

That.

Rory (53:49)

That you wrote that down on. On your notes?

Mall (53:51)

Yeah.

Rory (53:54)

I thought she was just talking at the moment.

Mall (53:56)

Oh, man.

Rory (53:58)

But yes, for the people that do with. With that style of music, I promise you, this is not hate. Shout out to the concrete boys Shout

Mall (54:05)

out to concrete boys Shout out to.

Rory (54:07)

Probably not going to listen to it, but I did listen to the Foggy Raw album, which did, ironically have Carapoo on it.

Mall (54:14)

For real?

Rory (54:14)

Yes.

Mall (54:15)

Did she? Did she? Did she. Did she do her thing or was the song dope? Shout out to Foggy.

Rory (54:20)

The song was so good, you couldn't fail.

Mall (54:24)

I know what that is. She couldn't. She couldn't do bad on the song. The song. Was that still.

Rory (54:28)

Her verse still was. Not for me.

Mall (54:30)

Yeah, I get it. But the song is good.

Rory (54:32)

But listen, that Foggy album is really, really good.

Mall (54:35)

Shout out to our guy, Foggy World with no due respect, out now your dsps.

Rory (54:39)

I went to the. The listening event too.

Mall (54:41)

Yeah, I was out of town. I was in Virginia that weekend when he had to listen in. But, you know, we've been watching Foggy for. For a long time, supporting him, and for him to be able to put his project out finally was dope to see. Shout out to Foggy World with no due respect. With no due respect.

Rory (54:58)

Maybe we can table this conversation for. For another time, but I think it's safe to say that the DMV does have a sound now for. For a long time. That was always the thing. Cause, you know, Wally was one of.

Mall (55:09)

The DMV has always had a sound,

Rory (55:10)

though, outside of Go Go, is what I'm saying. Like, because when Wale hit, rightfully so, a lot of his sonics were Go Go based.

Mall (55:18)

Okay.

Rory (55:18)

Because, I mean, he grew up in the dmv.

Mall (55:20)

Yeah.

Rory (55:20)

But I feel like they have a sound, a spell. Like, from what Gold Link did, what Brent has done. Like, the DMV has had so many amazing artists in the last 15 years. I can hear the DMV all over this. This fucking.

Mall (55:36)

Okay.

Rory (55:37)

Like, it still sounds like the DMV even when he's experimenting.

Mall (55:41)

So the song where he got out with Larry June was dope. Yeah, I heard that. I did hear that record. I didn't hear the whole album yet, but that song with Larry was. Was dope.

Rory (55:48)

Yeah. And I mean, just the. The African influence that the DMV has is all over his stuff. Wale, Gold Link stuff. It's It's a really, really good project.

Mall (55:58)

Got it. I'm gonna check that out tonight. That's gonna be my. My music. My soundtrack for the night, baby. My soundtrack for the night. Just, you know, put that on.

Rory (56:05)

Speaking of dmv, Demer still is not listening to, which is pissed me off.

Damaris (56:08)

That's not. You just made that up. You just. All you do is walk around and make up Christopher Columbus.

Rory (56:15)

Did he not discover the country that had people at it already?

Mall (56:19)

Of course he did. Of course he did. It was in our books. You didn't read that?

Rory (56:22)

I listened 1492.

Damaris (56:23)

I listened to the Brand album. What I did want to come in here and say is that after listening to it a couple more times, I understand the appeal. And what I also realized is Brent makes R and B for I don't wanna say. Cause he has so many female fans. But I understand why men like this project so much. I get it.

Mall (56:44)

All right, baby? But I never said it became a crowd.

Damaris (56:48)

I never said it was bad. He said it wasn't for me. And I still stand on that. But it was when I was cleaning the crib.

Mall (56:53)

It was. See what happened when you take thigh pictures, you start to hit Bren a little clearer, don't you?

Damaris (56:57)

Yeah, but I'm asking you.

Rory (56:59)

You're the Brent behind some of those photos. And I feel like it would.

Mall (57:01)

Oh, man.

Damaris (57:02)

As a person who. Who cares about lyrics more than music, this is why this album is not for me. But I do like the. The music on the album is very, very good.

Mall (57:12)

This album is incredible. Baby D. I'm just happy that you.

Damaris (57:15)

You're not really listening for the things that I'm listening for in me.

Mall (57:17)

What you listening for, baby D? Cuz we might be listening for the same.

Damaris (57:20)

I. I need some. That's gonna touch my soul.

Mall (57:22)

It didn't touch your soul.

Damaris (57:23)

That touch y' all soul don't touch my soul.

Rory (57:24)

You haven't found love in all the wrong faces.

Damaris (57:27)

So you got some faces that's so surface level.

Rory (57:29)

Just like losing Sleepover is very, very surface.

Damaris (57:32)

Your face like men's life, love, Men's

Mall (57:34)

love is not surface level.

Damaris (57:35)

That's why y' all like, oh, my God, he's speaking to me.

Mall (57:37)

No, he's not. Well, all right, hold on. I never listen to br. Said he's speaking for me. Never have I once said any of these is speaking for me. I just said the album was fire, grown man. Yeah, I didn't say speaking for me. I just said for you.

Damaris (57:53)

I didn't say for you.

Mall (57:53)

He ain't speaking to me either. I just said the music. The. The album was fire, I think. I think the album is incredible.

Damaris (57:58)

The music. The music on the album is. Is really, really good.

Mall (58:00)

Incredible. Incredible. Shout out to another DMV legend for sure.

Rory (58:05)

All right, we're gonna get to the elephant in the room.

Mall (58:09)

Oh, here we go. The elephant in the room.

Rory (58:15)

The quietest Bruno Mars release of all time happened. Oh, did you guys know that Bruno Mars dropped an album?

Mall (58:21)

I did not know.

Damaris (58:21)

I forgot.

Mall (58:22)

Actually, I did not know that. I did not know that until I came into the studio today and you asked me if I heard Bruno's album, and I was like, I didn't even know you put an album about. Well, no, no, don't do that. Don't take a huff and a puff. Did. Did you listen to the album twice? Twice all the way through? No, I know it's a short album.

Rory (58:42)

Sure did. 32 minutes.

Mall (58:43)

32 minutes.

Damaris (58:44)

What?

Mall (58:44)

We. We not mad at that.

Rory (58:45)

I listened to it at a red light.

Mall (58:46)

We don't see. He's still at the hate tm.

Damaris (58:49)

Why are you still p. What's going on with him?

Rory (58:52)

I'm. I'm hating on traffic laws in New York. It takes 30 minutes to get through a red light.

Mall (58:55)

That is true. All right, so you go. Cause y' all know how I feel about Bruno, so. I didn't hear this project yet. Actually, I'm lying. Rory played some of it.

Rory (59:04)

I was about to say I'm the liar now.

Mall (59:06)

Rory played some of it while we was getting. While we came in early.

Rory (59:09)

I put Cha Cha Cha in the group chat. What you mean?

Damaris (59:11)

Shit sounded fire to me.

Rory (59:13)

See, this is fire.

Damaris (59:14)

When he was playing, it shit sounded fire. I haven't listened to the whole album,

Mall (59:17)

but what he was playing, this is. I know your niggas be confused that you fuck. How you go from. How you go from Brent like you don't understand to. Nah, this shit was fired. Cha Cha was fired.

Damaris (59:28)

I didn't talk about Cha Cha. I said what I've heard in the office that Rory had played was fire. I didn't hear everything, though.

Mall (59:34)

Okay.

Damaris (59:34)

Think about the songs that I've heard.

Mall (59:36)

All right, cool. All right. So Rory, you were saying on the

Rory (59:38)

hook of Cha Cha Cha, he says she working that back. I don't know how to act. Slow motion for me.

Damaris (59:44)

Slow motion for me. Shit.

Mall (59:45)

Yeah, no, we got that. But not over that, though. Not over the Cha Cha music. Not that music, Baby, you might not

Damaris (59:50)

be the target audience.

Mall (59:51)

Audience oh, I'm definitely not the target audience like Britain is. I mean, Bruno is not targeting me as his audience at all. Now I will say no matter, and I'll get back to Rory. No matter how we feel about Bruno, he's one of the most amazing vocalists we have.

Rory (60:09)

You took my only positive thing I was gonna say.

Mall (60:11)

Oh, sorry. Vocally, it's a lot of dudes can't stand next to Bruno. Bruno's. His vocals are incredible. The music is incredible. And I'm gonna pause there, and I'm gonna get let Rory go, and then I'm gonna pick up on my thoughts

Rory (60:25)

because I've been sitting at the hate TM all day. I was trying to find something positive. This album, Bruno Mars the romantic did prove and remind me that Bruno should be brought up in these vocalist conversations.

Mall (60:37)

Absolutely.

Rory (60:38)

Bruno's vocals are absolutely fucking incredible.

Mall (60:42)

Agreed.

Rory (60:43)

His songs just st stink.

Mall (60:45)

Okay.

Rory (60:45)

His songs stink on this.

Damaris (60:48)

Okay, okay. So on this album. Just let's clarify on this. Out. Whoa.

Rory (60:51)

On this album.

Mall (60:52)

Yeah. Because leader door open. We still spinning that baby D. We still banging that.

Rory (60:57)

I like why you want to fight? I like on my soul and I like nothing left. And after that, there's nothing left.

Mall (61:05)

Okay, so that's three out of nine.

Rory (61:08)

I, I guess I'm confused.

Damaris (61:10)

Used.

Rory (61:10)

When was the last solo Bruno Mars album?

Damaris (61:14)

So 2016. It will be 24 Karat Magic, one of my favorite albums all time.

Rory (61:19)

Not here to argue.

Mall (61:20)

Magic was a great album.

Rory (61:21)

Great album. 10 years it took to give us this 32 minutes that I think Bruno Mars could make in a weekend.

Damaris (61:30)

He might have made it in a weekend. He did give us a great album with Anderson.

Rory (61:40)

Two years ago. Three years ago, I was at Blue Note speaking with people that work on this album, and they were leaving Blue Note that night so they could go continue to work on the Bruno Mars album.

Damaris (61:50)

Might be a different project.

Rory (61:53)

It might be about the DMX us this year.

Mall (61:55)

Maybe. No. Maybe it was the Anderson project.

Rory (61:56)

No, that had already come up.

Mall (61:58)

Oh, okay. My bad. Bruno, I tried to help you out.

Damaris (62:02)

It could be anything.

Rory (62:03)

I, I, I think the superstar that he.

Mall (62:05)

That's a great. It could be anything.

Rory (62:07)

I won't be at the atm. I will be very kind in everything I'm saying. I think we're officially at the Bruno Mars legacy act phase of his career.

Damaris (62:15)

Which is fine. He's getting.

Rory (62:16)

Which is totally fine. He's a legend in his own right. He has amazing hit records. I even said my bucket list. I want to see Bruno live. I think it would be incredible. 10 years for this 32 minute project of shit that I really think Bruno Mars could make in his sleep because he is extremely tired. Talented is a waste of everyone's time.

Damaris (62:35)

Okay.

Rory (62:36)

To the point that you. No one knew it came out because I don't think they cared that anyone knew it came out.

Mall (62:43)

I definitely didn't know this album came out.

Rory (62:45)

When have we known Bruno not to do an extravagant rollout? He's. He's one of the biggest pop stars we have, period of this generation. You just quietly put out a mixtape after 10 years and it's like do. It's like redundant in Cha cha cha. There's still signs of the Bruno we love on here. Like, like I said, why you want to fight is incredible. Nothing left is beautiful. All my soul is a bop. I'm going to mop my floors this week to that record. But this is. I don't even think. I don't even know if Bruno's proud of this.

Mall (63:20)

How you gonna say you don't know if Bruno's proud of that? He put it out quietly.

Rory (63:25)

Is he trying to get out of a deal?

Damaris (63:27)

No clue.

Mall (63:28)

I don't know. But let me say this off of the music that you played and that I heard from now, because I don't think we got through the whole thing. Might have got to about five or six tracks. Bruno is talented and we know that Bruno's an incredible artist. We know that Bruno. It's just the music is. It always sounds like a rendition of something. It sounds like something that we already got. It sounds like something we already heard. Like Bruno Mars sound like. You know when you watch those movies that are like in the future, and then they have like moments where they're like, oh, I remember when this came out like 50 years ago, and they play a song and it's like, oh, yeah, that was that shit. Bruno sounds like that every album. It sounds like a blast from the past.

Rory (64:13)

Every time Black Mirror goes back in time, it's that song.

Mall (64:15)

Yeah, it's like, remember Demolition man when they played old songs and they was like, oh, this used to be the bop. Like, that's what Bruno Mars music. It's good, but it's like, I feel like we heard this already though. We heard this rendition.

Damaris (64:31)

You don't think anything is innovative.

Mall (64:33)

It's not innovative. It's not. It's just like every, every everything feels like a cover with a little, you know, like a moment on it. Like she working that back. It's like he throw that in there. To try to get us like, okay, that's our shit, right? But it's like, yeah, but that ain't.

Rory (64:50)

Not next to the cowbell.

Mall (64:52)

That don't. It don't land like that. It's like. But again, vocally, Bruno Mars is incredible. Incredible vocalist, incredible performer, incredible entertainer. It's just the music just doesn't fit the feel. It don't feel like something that I want to keep going back to because it's like, like, I don't believe this is you. I believe this is something that you like or, you know, grew up liking. And you're trying to make your version of that, and I just don't know if it connects to me. I'm just speaking about. To me, it doesn't connect. But vocally, as an entertainer, as an artist, Bruno is incredible. There's nothing negative to say in those regards. Just the music. And it just doesn't. I don't know, I can't. I can't really connect to the music.

Damaris (65:40)

I. I know it's gonna be hard. I haven't run to the Bruno album because I.

Rory (65:44)

You.

Damaris (65:44)

As you guys know, I'm a huge Bruno fan and I know that I'm gonna be disappointed by the album, but no matter how good the album was, I was always going to be disappointed by the album because 24 Karat Magic is the perfect album to me. So you. I don't think that he can do better than that. I don't think most people can do better than that. But I also felt the same way about Cardi B's album, her second album as well. It's like, it's going to be very hard for you to compete with that first one. So you'll always be disappointed no matter what. No matter how good the second album is.

Mall (66:14)

Because the bar is already.

Damaris (66:15)

Because the bar is so high.

Mall (66:17)

It's like when Michael made Thriller, it was like, where's he gonna go from there?

Rory (66:21)

But it wouldn't be a 32 minute project. Ten years later, I'm looking now. Most artists, for the most part, sign five albums deals. This, if you include, which was an Atlantic release with Anderson Pack, this would get him to five.

Mall (66:37)

Okay.

Rory (66:37)

He announced the tour. So I'm doing my, My, my Amara aha thing. There's no way some of my favorite producers and writers ever that put this together for over three years landed on those records. This is a way to get out of a. A contract.

Mall (66:55)

Okay. Okay.

Rory (66:56)

This is a way to get out of a kaja and. And. And, oh. I'm figuring this out all in real time.

Mall (67:03)

In real time.

Rory (67:04)

By the way, guys, this is. I'm full of. So don't take anything I'm saying that serious. This is all legend in my brain at the time. Okay? The last Meek album was that Expensive Pain.

Mall (67:17)

Yes.

Rory (67:17)

Which, which we. Which we critiqued very much. And Meek was very upset on how Atlantic went about promoting that album. It was. I agree with Meek, probably one of the most under promoted Meek Mill albums we've ever seen. He had a record on there as well. It wasn't like he was cold. He said Atlantic, when they found out he was leaving, decided, why the fuck would I promote something if you're not going to be here anymore? Now I see this as the most under promoted Bruno Mars fucking album anything. Bruno Martin, when Bruno sneezes, it's promoted more than this. I think there's a chance maybe he's done with Atlantic and wanted to get the. Out of there. Here's nine. Here's nine songs past 32 minutes past the seven, seven record thing I need to do from an EP to album. And I'm out of here because I can't see Bruno Mars following up 24k magic 10 years later with this. Not with the guys he worked with. I just, I don't see it. That's fair. It wasn't even. Like you had one single. You did the video. It just felt like you're trying to get out of a deal. And Atlantic has already been accused of not promoting artists on their last project, which they're not the only label that does that. Once your deal is done, why the would I promote your.

Damaris (68:36)

Okay, that's a fair assessment. We don't know if it's true or false, but I think that that's a pretty fair assessment.

Rory (68:41)

Investment. And I must love podcasting because I'm. I'm insulting writers and producers that I work with. I mean, I'm serious. Like, I hope to God they don't see this.

Mall (68:57)

It's nothing wrong with just being honest about something that you.

Rory (69:00)

I don't feel like they love this. Okay, well, I don't know that.

Mall (69:03)

Yeah, but you just feel like they did. They did. There's no way they loved it.

Rory (69:07)

I can hear great moments in it, but this. This really feels like I'm trying to get off my label. Yeah, it really feels that way.

Mall (69:15)

I'm not mad at that. I just can't connect to the music. I don't know. It's. Again, vocally, Bruno sounds incredible. Like just. Just listening to the five, six songs that I heard on this. On this album so far, vocally is not many. Many artists that could stand next to Bruno. He's. He's incredible vocally. Just the music for me just doesn't. It doesn't.

Rory (69:33)

Yeah. Over the weekend as well, Stevie Wonder went to Marathon Burger for their opening in Long Beach. What I thought was the coolest thing ever.

Mall (69:44)

Yeah, that was fire. Seeing Stevie won that at Marathon Burger.

Rory (69:47)

And all you guys that were saying J. Cole was being performative, was Stevie being performative, too?

Mall (69:53)

Nah, Stevie was hungry. Stevie was sitting down. Now, it would have been performative if Stevie went back there and start flipping some burgers. Then I would have been like, all right, hold on. Like, I'd have been like, all right, Stevie. Which.

Rory (70:05)

How to cut the cameras?

Mall (70:06)

Yeah, how you back there flipping burgers? But no, that wasn't. It wasn't performing. Stevie looked like he was just.

Rory (70:12)

Stevie was at Nipsey's.

Mall (70:13)

Yeah, he went to. He went to go. Support definitely cares for, obviously, the family and Marathon Burger. So shout out to Stevie Wonder.

Rory (70:19)

Yeah. And congrats to Black Sam and the entire estate of Nipsey Hussle. I hope to God we see more Marathon Burgers everywhere. Yeah.

Mall (70:27)

When y' all, can we get one in New York? Times Square?

Rory (70:32)

I had heard that rumor. I wasn't sure if it was true or not.

Mall (70:35)

Brooklyn fire. All right, Black Sam, me and Rory coming to flip some burgers. Everybody else flipping burgers. Oh, I would.

Rory (70:40)

I would have so much fun doing that.

Mall (70:42)

Yeah, but then you'll try to tell Black Sam how to run his operation. You'll start doing too much.

Damaris (70:45)

For sure.

Mall (70:46)

For sure. Like, you should go square corners on a burger, not round. Like you start telling Sam like that.

Rory (70:50)

Well, they're smash burgers, Mo.

Mall (70:52)

Okay, so perfect.

Damaris (70:54)

Like, I'm. I'm telling you, if you listen to me. It sounds crazy, but add just a pinch of salt to this. Salt.

Rory (70:59)

No, I would say. I would say. Why are you seasoning these so much?

Mall (71:03)

This season is going to give everyone high blood pressure.

Rory (71:06)

They're so spicy.

Mall (71:07)

Shout out to Marathon Burger, though, man. Love to see them. They just opened up that location in Long beach, so that was dope. Shout out entire family.

Damaris (71:14)

Have you.

Rory (71:14)

No, I've never had Marathon Burger.

Mall (71:16)

I haven't had Marathon Burger yet.

Rory (71:17)

Every time we've been in la, we haven't, like, had enough time to get over there. And.

Mall (71:20)

Yeah, the last time.

Rory (71:21)

And the lines are also, like, the last time.

Mall (71:23)

The last time we was out there was BET weekend, so you can imagine.

Damaris (71:26)

Oh, God.

Rory (71:27)

Oh, it was like an event every time at Marathon Burger.

Mall (71:29)

Yeah, I think Head head had told me he, like, was like, yo, you want to make a call? Like, they get you, right? I said when I got to do that to just go to a burger spot. I'm cool.

Damaris (71:36)

Make a call.

Mall (71:37)

I'm going back to my hotel. It's over.

Rory (71:38)

But even when it's not BET weekend, like, the lines, which I'm happy about,

Mall (71:42)

are around the corner.

Rory (71:43)

Yeah, like, you can't just pull up to Marathon Burger and grab a burger real quick.

Mall (71:47)

Yeah, that's dope, though.

Damaris (71:48)

I mean, but in n out is the same way. I've never gone to go to in and out trash.

Rory (71:51)

I hear Marathon burger is great.

Mall (71:54)

You don't like in and out?

Damaris (71:55)

They're gonna kill you for that.

Rory (71:57)

Oh, are they? Oh, let me look this camera. Peach In n out is garbage juice.

Mall (72:02)

Yeah.

Rory (72:03)

Now we can move on.

Mall (72:04)

He's at the atm.

Damaris (72:06)

What he had today.

Mall (72:07)

I love it. I love it. They call me a hater every day. I love the fact that I have a neighbor now. Welcome to the block.

Damaris (72:14)

A hater neighbor.

Mall (72:15)

So far, you my hater neighbor. Yeah, come on, hater neighbor.

Rory (72:18)

You know, it's a matter of time until I gentrify the hater block.

Mall (72:20)

Come on, man. You got to move in and gentrify the haters neighborhood.

Rory (72:23)

Yeah, no, it's really probably like the worst burger place on earth.

Damaris (72:27)

Yo, the things on this list are frying me.

Rory (72:30)

What?

Damaris (72:30)

Like the way you type things out. Buju Bonson's son said he almost turned gay, but then he remember boom, bye bye and went to church the next day. Like, typing that out is hilarious.

Mall (72:38)

Is that even real?

Rory (72:39)

That's real.

Mall (72:40)

Okay, well, shout out to Buju son. He ain't gay no more.

Rory (72:45)

I'm delivered.

Mall (72:46)

He don't like men's no more. Wait, was that a real thing, though?

Rory (72:53)

Yes.

Mall (72:54)

He said he went to church.

Rory (72:56)

Yeah.

Mall (72:57)

Or did he say he heard boom, bye bye?

Rory (72:59)

Well, no, he remembered boom, bye bye and realized I'm not gay and then went to church the next day to remind himself again that, like, oh, okay,

Mall (73:05)

well, good for him.

Damaris (73:06)

Yo, they got that taken down everywhere. Everything. Me nearly turned fish.

Mall (73:11)

Sorry, that was me nearly turned fish.

Rory (73:14)

I didn't want to be the one to say it. That's how the cleats go.

Mall (73:19)

Me nearly turn fish. He said that?

Damaris (73:22)

Satan play with my mind.

Mall (73:24)

Satan up. Playing with my mind. Yo, what world. This is a Y. Still don't think this is a simulation. This is crazy. This is A real interview, he said.

Rory (73:36)

I know, B Boy.

Damaris (73:37)

Yes. During the interview, the young entertainer opened up about what he described as years of spiritual warfare. I tell you, these talking about you gay be talking about fighting demons, and it be bisexuality, generational curses, and battles with identity. He said there was a period where he began losing his desire for women and felt his mind was under attack. Satan to play with my mind. He shared that in the middle of that struggle, he began singing his father's controversial hit song, Boom, Bye Bye, as a reminder of his upbringing and beliefs. According to Jaziel, that moment jolted him, and the very next day, he walked into church seeking baptism. However, Jaziel admitted that getting baptized did not immediately fix everything. Nothing never changed, he said, adding that he later realized deeper prayer and spiritual work were necessary.

Mall (74:17)

So when he said nothing changed, what he mean? Like, how he know he still went out on a date with a dude? Or was it like.

Damaris (74:23)

I think he just. He realized that he needed to pray a little bit harder.

Mall (74:26)

Okay.

Rory (74:26)

Yeah, respectfully, he sucked. He.

Damaris (74:28)

He.

Mall (74:29)

He.

Damaris (74:29)

He seeked medical attention. He sought medical help for what he believed was a misdiagnosed illness.

Mall (74:35)

Gay is a misdiagnosed illness.

Damaris (74:37)

Yeah.

Rory (74:37)

According to some West Indians. Absolutely not. Nobody.

Mall (74:42)

What? Yo, that is crazy, man. All right, well, I think he'd just

Rory (74:47)

be happier if he would just be gay.

Mall (74:49)

Yeah, it's always that part of it, right? Like, fam, you could just. It's okay. Like, you could just be.

Rory (74:54)

I can understand that. Probably growing up in a household of puja, bantan and that culture.

Mall (74:59)

Yeah, but he's a grown man now. You don't still live at home with Buju.

Rory (75:01)

I'm saying, just growing up in. In a house like that, you would feel pressure. Pressure.

Mall (75:07)

Yeah. Oh, definitely.

Rory (75:09)

So, yeah, definitely that can spill over into your adulthood, even once you've moved out.

Mall (75:14)

Yeah.

Rory (75:14)

So. But no, I, I. Unfortunately, I did laugh just because it was funny.

Damaris (75:18)

Me nearly turned fish. Funny as. I don't know.

Mall (75:20)

You nearly turned fish, Satan.

Damaris (75:22)

I play with my mind.

Mall (75:25)

Yo, man. All right, man, whatever.

Damaris (75:27)

That's why. But me and Ma have stood on that. Like, yo, like, be claiming they're fighting demons. It'd be bisexuality.

Mall (75:33)

Gay fam. Just be gay, dog. Like, ain't nobody tripping like, you in the house, cursing your girl out, arguing. Cause she left the. The soap dish with a half a piece of soap in there. Like, just go be with your boyfriend. Like, you don't like women.

Damaris (75:50)

That's fine.

Mall (75:51)

Yo, y' all fighting with. It's not a Demon, just go. You fighting that text message that you keep ignoring. Just answer, homie, and go see him. Like, that's all you. Ain't no reason for you to be arguing with your girl. Like, just go see your boyfriend different. Nobody. It's 20, 26. Nobody cares. I promise.

Damaris (76:09)

Jamaica?

Rory (76:10)

Yeah.

Mall (76:10)

You can live in mad other places. And there's gays in Jamaica. Let's put that out there. Like, let's just get that out there. There's gay people in Jamaica. Like, we gotta stop that. Like, there's gay people in Jamaica. But I get it. I understand cultural things like that, pressure from the home and things like that. But as a grown man, be comfortable. Be who you are. Be yourself, man. One life.

Rory (76:33)

One life. One love.

Mall (76:34)

One life, one love. You heard it. One life, one love.

Rory (76:40)

Relax.

Damaris (76:41)

Sorry.

Rory (76:43)

Speaking of a simulation, did you see that Jim Carrey was cloned?

Mall (76:47)

I saw people trying to make it a thing. They said the eyes are different. I don't know, man. People are weird. The thing is just makeup. Maybe Jim got some fillers done.

Damaris (77:00)

He got a facelift.

Mall (77:02)

Yeah, like, that's Jim Carrey, bro.

Damaris (77:06)

That's Jim Carrey. He got a facelift. He can't move. You see how tight his forehead is? He got a facelift.

Rory (77:13)

Well, some people would say that if you've followed Jim Carrey for the last decade, he wouldn't be the one to get a facelift because he does not care about society the way. Way maybe an actor would. My only conspiracy really was he's on his Andy Kaufman. And this has to do with some type of role or something that he's. This is a role like. Like the way the Weeknd was walking around with a mask. Heard that. I was like, maybe. Maybe Jim Carrey's doing something. I could see that based off celebrities and how dark that world can be.

Mall (77:48)

This is his latest trick.

Rory (77:50)

Yes. But I mean, even that to me is. I think this is probably just Jim Carrey, bro.

Mall (77:55)

That's Jim Carrey. He's a baddie.

Damaris (77:57)

He got a facelift.

Mall (77:58)

That's Jim Carrey. Like, it's okay. So I get it. I know the conspiracy theorists love, like this. They zoom in on the eyes compared to his eyes from five years ago. I get it. I understand. But that's. That's Jim Carrey, bro. That's Jim.

Damaris (78:10)

That face tight, though. They put his. Their knee.

Rory (78:13)

They pulled his whole.

Damaris (78:15)

God damn.

Rory (78:17)

But that's the thing, I guess we. With plastic surgery, like, you really need the right lighting for it to look okay. Or you look like that.

Mall (78:24)

Yeah, I mean, but he looks good, though. Something looks crazy right there.

Rory (78:29)

Some high cheeks.

Mall (78:30)

I mean, you know, he looks good though, Jim looks good.

Rory (78:33)

My favorite thing about conspiracy theorists that I'm starting to like, really notice. I don't want to call white conspiracy theorists racist because that's unfair there. But I think a lot of you guys are subconsciously racist because I do think it's hilarious, especially on the right wing of the QAnon people this and that. You guys can believe every insane conspiracy theory, but draw the line at systematic racism. J. Edgar Hoover, which is. Is you could pull the files at this point. Everything's redacted of systematic racism. Now racism isn't real any anymore. But you will literally believe that they're eating babies in a layer under LA with lizard people. But be like, guys, there's no such thing as racism. Systematic racism. Are you crazy? The government would never conspire against black people.

Mall (79:25)

Yeah, I guess.

Rory (79:27)

Anyways, with that said, did you guys see the McDonald's CEO eat his own product?

Damaris (79:34)

No.

Rory (79:34)

I heard about some funny. It's not even a conspiracy. He was. I don't know who on their social team was like, yeah, you got to do the, the. The lunchtime Tik Tok. He went and showed the new. The new burger, the big arch at McDonald's. He took the littlest bite of all time.

Mall (79:53)

It's.

Rory (79:53)

It's the way when you go into a Chinese restaurant in New York City, you never actually see Chinese people eating the food because they know you, we shouldn't be eating this.

Mall (80:03)

Right?

Rory (80:04)

He. So he went, delicious.

Mall (80:08)

Where's this?

Rory (80:09)

He's probably a Vegan.

Mall (80:10)

Where's this McDonald's at?

Rory (80:11)

That's his office. And what's funny is he started out by saying, we tested this in Argentina and Germany and Canada. Now we're ready for the States. We try to see what it would do to. To other people.

Mall (80:26)

So this is the new burger Big Arch.

Damaris (80:28)

Yeah.

Mall (80:29)

Okay.

Rory (80:29)

You can see the crispy onions there.

Mall (80:30)

What is the. What's. What's. What's so different about this burger? Burger, nothing. It's like a big, like a smash burger type of thing.

Rory (80:38)

They added more steroids into it. They added some sesame seeds to the bun. I'm just trying to keep up with burger culture.

Mall (80:47)

Got it.

Damaris (80:48)

I don't know if I trust, like McDonald's, like with the crispy onions, like, I don't know how. I don't know how I feel about that.

Rory (80:53)

So that's where you draw the line.

Mall (80:54)

Onions. You don't trust McDonald's.

Damaris (80:57)

Well, I don't eat McDonald's burgers, but I don't know. Like, I don't know if I trust them to get the onions crispy, like, right? Like, is that real onion?

Rory (81:04)

What do you trust them to get?

Mall (81:05)

Right? Yeah, because if you leave that burger out for a month, it's not going to go bad, I promise you.

Damaris (81:10)

They still do that, though. Like, they're. They still don't use real meat. I thought, like, because they got called out on it so much, they, like, started.

Mall (81:16)

What does that mean? We call out shit all the time, baby niggas still do the same shit over and over and over.

Rory (81:21)

Let it blow over. It won't be frozen for a month.

Mall (81:23)

We don't have that much cows. We know that we don't have that much beef for. For them to be selling billions of burgers a year.

Damaris (81:29)

A year.

Mall (81:29)

Think about how many McDonald's there are in this country alone, and all of them are selling millions of burgers a year.

Rory (81:36)

How.

Mall (81:38)

Where is that me coming from? We already know the nuggets is just everything. Waste. Like, they just grind everything together, make a paste. They. We saw that doc, how they make nuggets. It's. It comes in a box of pink paste, and they just take pieces of it and dump it in the fryer.

Damaris (81:53)

Like, it's so good, though.

Rory (81:55)

It's delicious. With. With some ranch that hits, which is not ranch either.

Damaris (82:00)

Every once in a while, I. I'll crave, like, McDonald's nuggets every once in a while.

Rory (82:04)

Yo, I. I've. I've driven through almost every state in this country. I've never seen that many cows that. Like, just. Just McDonald's, period. Not the rest of the restaurants.

Mall (82:12)

Possible.

Rory (82:13)

I've never seen that many cows.

Mall (82:14)

It is not possible.

Rory (82:15)

Like, you've never driven through North Dakota, like, okay, I see a million cows just now. I see how they do it now.

Mall (82:20)

I get it. Okay, there's 30 million cows over here.

Rory (82:22)

There.

Mall (82:22)

I get it now. No, it's just not. No, it's not possible. At one time when McDonald's and they. I think this is like. You can read this. At one time, it was. Though. It was just pure 100% beef when McDonald's was, you know, obviously first starting years ago. And it wasn't as many. It wasn't a franchise as it is today. As big of a brand as it is today. But no, there's no way. There's no way that that's real 100% beef. It's impossible. Possible.

Damaris (82:49)

They said they're still made with 100% pure USDA inspected beef. They say that.

Mall (82:54)

Oh, oh, no. The government.

Rory (82:55)

All right, my bad.

Mall (82:56)

AI said that. My bad. Like AI said, it gotta be valid.

Rory (83:02)

All right, the government says.

Mall (83:03)

Come on, man, usda, what are we talking?

Damaris (83:05)

You know, we trust they inspect it.

Mall (83:07)

They just told you to go get a vaccine. And now, spoon, stick to your arms. I know.

Rory (83:11)

Yeah. Pumping us with fluor Fluoride as children.

Damaris (83:14)

Not the fluoride. Yo, my dad started with that. That the fluoride is blocking my third eye.

Mall (83:20)

Welcome N that be every say that when he can't get a job. Yo, the fluoride. Yo, what's up, fam? How. How the job search going? Yo, the fluoride. You know what I'm saying? It's my third eye.

Rory (83:37)

Realize. Realize fluoride.

Mall (83:38)

Yo, sir, you ain't been working in like five months. Yo, the fluoride, B, it's out here. Can't even see my potential. Yo, the first.

Rory (83:49)

The first mercury in retrograde was fluoride.

Mall (83:55)

Love blaming fluoride, man. Yo, if y' all don't get out of here and brush your stink ass mouth fluoride. I don't care what you put in that brush and rinse the fluoride. My third eye, it got the calcium. This is covered in my. My third eye is calcified. Yo, go get a job.

Rory (84:12)

I love that Wu Tang song.

Mall (84:14)

Yeah, go get a fucking job, man.

Rory (84:15)

They're right, though.

Mall (84:16)

Oh, my God. Oh, man, they're right.

Rory (84:21)

Yo, you still use fluoride toothpaste?

Damaris (84:24)

Nah, I would think that you didn't. You give like, toms.

Mall (84:28)

Nah, I don't use toms. It's this other brand I'm gonna send you. It's fire, though, baby. D. Really? What? My mouth ain't never felt that clean like that shit foam up so crazy enough.

Rory (84:38)

Pause 8. Talking about toothpaste, yo, even Ryan went 8. Oh, and he's 23.

Mall (84:43)

What? Toothpaste. Like, what the. I'm saying, you know how the tooth. You know, you got to get a good lather on the toothpaste.

Damaris (84:48)

I know, I know.

Mall (84:49)

But then, like, you know when your teeth feel like marble after you finish brushing. Oh, my God.

Damaris (84:53)

Streaky. They feel streak like.

Mall (84:54)

No, no, no, no, no. I'm talking about straight marble. Like, you know when you get that clean out the dentist. When the dentist, like, cleans and shines your teeth. Oh, yeah, I got. I'm gonna send you the toothpaste. It's fire.

Damaris (85:04)

Okay.

Mall (85:04)

I just Ordered, like, six of them shits on Amazon. Okay.

Damaris (85:07)

And the floss. I just. People that don't floss. I, I. If you don't floss. And you're listening to this. If you don't floss, go floss and then smell the floss.

Mall (85:14)

Nah, that's just like the back of an earring. You don't want to smell that. That should stink.

Rory (85:20)

Not flossing is kind of nuts, but not flossing.

Mall (85:23)

This correct. You don't have no floor. I. I'm not gonna lie. I know we say you don't judge people. I just. If I go to your bathroom and it's certain not in there, you just. You just a little funky to me.

Damaris (85:35)

Like, what, mom?

Mall (85:36)

If you don't got baby wipes, I'm judging you.

Rory (85:39)

I have dude wipes.

Mall (85:41)

Dude wipes. Whatever, Whatever. You got some wipes. You need some wet wipes in your bathroom. You need floss. You need mouthwash. Like these are. You need Clorox wipes for the toilet. Like, it's just certain things you just have to have in your bathroom. When you go to somebody bathroom. You like, fam. You ain't got no mouthwash in here? No. What you be doing? Like, how you brush your teeth? You just toothpaste on a toothbrush and just. That's it. That's not enough. That's not gonna. That's not gonna get it.

Rory (86:08)

If you don't floss, I'm not gonna say you also don't wash your ass. I'm gonna say you.

Mall (86:11)

I'm gonna say it.

Rory (86:12)

You wash your ass with the same rag that you do for your face.

Mall (86:16)

Yeah.

Rory (86:16)

Like, you literally wipe your butt and then wash your face with that rag.

Mall (86:19)

It's one and the same. I agree. No wife's baby. D. Get out of there. If he ain't got a wife's baby

Damaris (86:24)

D. Yeah, no, I'm not. Because I know eventually when we get

Mall (86:28)

there, hair like, oh, sheets stink.

Rory (86:32)

Sheets.

Mall (86:32)

You never go for a cuddle session, and the sheets think it smell like butt under here. Like, you never go to somebody crib and it's just a blanket. Everything smell like butt. Like you.

Rory (86:41)

Like, y' all think I'm nasty. That's never. I've never gotten to a girl's house. Her sheets stink.

Mall (86:47)

Yeah, man.

Damaris (86:48)

That's a man thing. Yeah, that's a thing.

Rory (86:50)

Oh, mine don't stink.

Mall (86:51)

Yeah, well, your sheets stink. Blankets think go to her crib. Her pillowcase stink because her bonnet stink. It's like, y' all can't even lay down. Like, I'm about to go, like, what is. Are your bed stink? How your bed funky? Your bed where you sleep? How is this. This is where you supposed to have a good night's sleep. It smells like a coffin. Like what. How you.

Damaris (87:14)

You gotta smell like, right when a. Like when he. Where he lays, like where his butt will be. You gotta smell that part of the sheet.

Mall (87:21)

Like, as soon as you get.

Rory (87:22)

What does their bathroom look like if their sheets are like that, man? Because you can't wash your ass in a dirty bathroom. It's dirty already. You can't be clean.

Damaris (87:29)

People will know. This is the thing. This is the thing about dirty people. They know what clean people are expecting, right? So they know what makes them look clean. So they'll do like, they'll straighten up and make shit look clean. So unless you're really inspecting, you don't know that it's. But you can't hide the smell of funky ass on a shit sheet. Yeah, not the top sheet. Don't smell the top sheet. The one underneath.

Mall (87:51)

Yeah, you got to get up under there.

Damaris (87:53)

The one underneath. And down by where his feet be. Smell down there.

Mall (87:58)

You gotta lay at the foot.

Rory (88:00)

Y' all be with some dirty people, man.

Mall (88:02)

No, no, I don't. I don't. That's how. That's how I don't be with dirty people. Like it. Take me one look like. Or this will you be laying at. Yeah, I'm cool. Never coming back over here again. No worry.

Rory (88:15)

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Mall (88:21)

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Rory (89:37)

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Mall (89:56)

I hate fame. I hate the word celebrity. I hate those words. They make me uncomfortable. But I think when you get to a certain point, the fame or the success or the influence, it just accentuates and exacerbates the the inherent person that you are. The guy that says he's always going to be there and that will do anything to be there is the only guy that's not there. I'm in Australia when Beau is born. My whole identity is that no matter what, I'm going to prioritize my wife and my children over my job. I dread the conversation with my son.

Rory (90:27)

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Mall (90:37)

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Damaris (90:42)

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Mall (90:49)

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Damaris (90:53)

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Mall (91:10)

Charlie was an example of power. They had to crush him.

Damaris (91:17)

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Rory (91:45)

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Damaris (91:57)

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Rory (92:00)

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Damaris (92:18)

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Rory (92:20)

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Damaris (92:22)

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Rory (92:25)

And let's not forget all the jokes.

Damaris (92:30)

Listen to boys and Girls on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

Rory (92:37)

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Mall (93:44)

Shia LaBeouf is easily the funniest dude in the world right now. By far. It's not close. Watch the interview. Who was the interview with?

Rory (93:52)

Channel 5.

Mall (93:53)

Channel 5. Shia LaBeouf. Now, was this post arrest?

Rory (93:58)

Yes. This was his out on bail.

Mall (94:02)

This was his first day out. This was Shia LaBeouf's first day out interview on Channel 5. I don't know how many clips they plan on clipping from this, but this entire entire interview was just like incredible. Shia LaBeouf is one of my favorite people for sure.

Rory (94:20)

It's funny. I forgot. Maybe it was last week we were talking about maybe, I don't know, off mic. We were talking about man crushes. I've had a man crush on Shia Lab LaBeouf my entire life. I'm like a big Shia LaBeouf fan. So when this dropped, I to Me. This. This was like a new Jay Z release. Anytime Shia gets in front of a mic, because the. The John Bernthal interview that he did three years ago is, like, one of my favorite interviews, period. And that's somebody that's sober and in a good space in his life.

Mall (94:57)

Right.

Rory (94:58)

But this is the shy. I really want to hear.

Mall (95:00)

First day out.

Rory (95:00)

I don't want. I don't want to hear from this logical, understanding human being that, nah, nah,

Mall (95:07)

this is the shot we need.

Rory (95:08)

I need Mardi Gras. Yeah. Shia LaBeouf.

Mall (95:11)

So Shia LaBeouf on Epstein Files. He said, I was chasing ass in Mardi Gras, bro. What do you mean? I wasn't paying no attention to Epstein files. This is beyond me, bro. I don't get into this. Yeah. I just wondered. It was, like, the biggest news story in the world for a couple of days. If you got no life, you're just sitting in a hole. That means you're not chasing ass that are. That are in the street. They don't give a. About this stupid. If you're sitting home all day like a. Like a who got kidnapped, your life sucks. You're a normie. But if you're out here, nobody cares about none of this. I remember asking Kendrick Lamar one time, like, bro, hey, Trump a Kamala. He was like, you think I give a. Like, he ain't got a. Like he ain't got a lion. We got families to feed. I'm the good. I'm the good one. Yeah. You ain't seeing me on this, on those lists or in those rooms. My life is in the. See, this is like, even what he's saying don't make sense. He said, like, he ain't got a. Like he ain't got. Ain't lying. We got families to feed. I don't even know what that means.

Damaris (96:02)

I think the person who typed this out might have got that wrong, but I think he just meant, like, he ain't lying. We got families to feed. I'm the good one. Yeah. You ain't seeing me on those lists or in those rooms. My life is in the streets.

Mall (96:11)

My life is in the streets. Shia LaBeouf is really out here in the streets. He's getting arrested in Mardi Gras. Like, he's on set. He became a gang bang at 36 just for, like, research purposes, for offense, film. Like, y' all not. Y' all not doing what Shia is doing. You're not really living like this. This dude is the definition of don't give a. I'm Free. I can do whatever I want. I go wherever I go. But aside from all of that, he is a talented actor as well.

Rory (96:35)

Don't skip over the gang banging part. My favorite part was not that Shia LaBeouf joined a gang at 36. Whatever. Different strokes for different folks. It was when they asked, did you get jumped in? And he explained that they were considering it and then went, come on, man, we can't. We can't jump you in.

Mall (96:53)

Yeah, no, we're not doing that.

Rory (96:54)

What does that group chat look like? Yo, we thought about it. We thought we was gonna put you on the black map, but

Mall (97:01)

we thought he was gonna jump you in. But we decided, like, nah, man, we can't do that to you.

Rory (97:06)

Then we took some time, we talked it over, and we don't think that we should jump you into this gag.

Mall (97:10)

I love this dude, man.

Damaris (97:12)

Do y' all agree with him on this, though?

Rory (97:14)

Well, what?

Damaris (97:14)

I'm chasing ass at Marty, girl. Like, what do you mean? What do you think? Like, this is.

Rory (97:18)

No, I don't agree with everything. Sh.

Damaris (97:21)

If you're sitting home all day, like, ah, who got kidnapped? Your life sucks.

Mall (97:25)

No, I, I, I think I understood.

Rory (97:27)

Children being sex trafficked is something that everyone should care about. I think actually a lot of people that don't care about running around Marty Gro is somehow how you could possibly get involved with sex trafficking if you ignore. But that's another thing.

Mall (97:41)

I'm not at Mardi Gras chasing ass. I'm not doing that. I can understand how some people would be, but I'm also not. I think what he was more so saying is people are a little too consumed with, you know, the Epstein files and things like that. Now, it should concern you being a citizen in this country if there's sex trafficking or anywhere. If there's sex trafficking happening and, you know, kids are being kidnapped and sex trafficked, you should definitely be, like, concerned about. About it. But I think Shy was more so saying, like, if this is. If this consumes you every day, like, your everyday thoughts and, you know, your life, then it's like, bro, like, what's up with you? I get it. I understand how somebody can be concerned. But, like, that's all you are online reading and consuming every day.

Damaris (98:27)

I also think that a lot. I agree with you. And I also think that a lot of these people are not being real with themselves. They only care because it's connected to celebrities, their sex, sex trafficking, trafficking everywhere. You can get involved with helping to stop sex trafficking locally. Like, there's there's so much sex trafficking in America. People only care because it's about people who are celebrity related. Like, that's why they're so. You hear about sex trafficking every day.

Rory (98:52)

I think there's definitely a group of people that care just because there's celebrity names in there. But I do think there is a large group of people that are very concerned that the elites that run this country that we give our tax dollars to that make every decision are involved in a sex trafficking.

Damaris (99:08)

For sure.

Rory (99:09)

I, I think it's actually above the celebrity thing. Like the celebrity. Wait, you mean the people that are controlling our country have been doing this for as long as the countries existed? That's. It doesn't consume my life every day, but it's a big concern to me. There's nothing I can do, unfortunately. But I don't even want to go through this because there was. There was to consume you every time.

Damaris (99:32)

Day.

Rory (99:32)

No, but I can't. I can't say that there hasn't been a day that I don't think about the Epstein valve.

Mall (99:39)

There's never been a day in your life where you don't think about the.

Rory (99:42)

Since. Since they came out? No, I don't think so. That there's been a day that I haven't thought about it. That's a, A extremely concerning thing. I, I don't care that random celebrities that someone called a hotline about are in concerns me that a lot of the decision making that goes on in this country down to the war that we're currently in, are attached to somebody that's holding sex trafficking over their heads as collateral. Like, yeah, that, that, that consumes my mind pretty often.

Damaris (100:20)

Okay.

Rory (100:21)

I can't even watch this war and not think about the Epstein pile.

Mall (100:24)

Okay.

Rory (100:25)

Like at all. But neither Horner there because I'm here to have fun. That's why I didn't want to get too much into this part. Because as much as I, I do with Shia LaBeouf, I think he's made a lot of mistakes. I think he's owned up to a lot of his mistakes. And he's a, A, a grown man that will get in front of a microphone if he wants. How do we feel about putting a mic in someone's face at this point? State.

Mall (100:52)

That's called entertainment.

Rory (100:55)

No, here, here's the thing. I'm not here to judge anyone. If we were in New Orleans and ran into Shiloh Buff on Bourbon Street. Bless you.

Damaris (101:02)

Bless you. God bless.

Rory (101:04)

Straight on bond. I'd pay for his bond. And say, would you like to do a podcast? I'm not here to be on some holier than thou whatsoever. I would 1000% do this interview no matter what. But looking at it, I appreciate somebody in this form, especially people that struggle with addiction and are similar to Shia, to seeing him in this state do an interview, I do think that's important. But at what point do we pull back a bit and like, I don't know if we should put some of this out. It's a little unfair to do to somebody that is telling you that they are not in the best mental addictive state at the moment.

Mall (101:48)

Yeah, I mean, I understand what you're saying, but at the same time, this is what he does, though. He's not gonna. He's not doing an interview all the time. Like this interview every, every month, anything like that. Like.

Rory (101:59)

I know.

Damaris (102:00)

Yeah.

Mall (102:00)

I mean, I don't. Did you think he was in the wrong mental state in this interview?

Rory (102:04)

Yeah.

Mall (102:06)

Okay.

Damaris (102:06)

What are you saying, Notorious? I ain't getting this game to be no fucking social worker. Like, like we're. We're media personalities.

Rory (102:14)

This is.

Damaris (102:15)

This.

Rory (102:15)

Oh, no, I don't think Channel 5 did anything wrong. What's. I want to make that very clear. I'm not sitting here trying to be on my high horse of like, I would do this interview and keep everything that was there. I probably would have provoked a little bit more than he did. I think he handled that very well. But it's just, yes, he wanted to do the interview. But at what point are we like, oh, no, man, should we be doing this right now? Now I'm talking just to the room in general.

Mall (102:40)

Yeah, we would do it absolutely 100%.

Rory (102:44)

How far is too far?

Mall (102:46)

That's what I actually about Domani and King and them. I just asked y the same. Yeah, but I don't know, man. I, I think I get what you're saying about mental. Mental health and mentally people being in a certain space and should you put a camera in their face?

Rory (102:59)

But, but I also, at the same

Mall (103:01)

time, he could have declined in for sure.

Rory (103:04)

He's a grown man. He makes no choice.

Damaris (103:07)

But if you're not in the right mental state, like that goes with any type of. And I don't want to call this assault because that's not what it is. But that goes with anything when you're taking advantage of someone who doesn't know better or isn't in the right mental state to stand up for themselves. Of course he agreed to it. That doesn't mean that it's good for him. Like if he's in a bad mental state, if he's not in his relationship. Right state of mind.

Mall (103:33)

Yeah.

Damaris (103:33)

He's going to agree to. He probably shouldn't like that people who want crack are going to suck strangers dick for crack.

Rory (103:42)

Consul.

Damaris (103:42)

Yes, it's consensual, but you already know that this person is in dire need of something or they're not in their right mental state. So you are wrong for still taking advantage of them.

Rory (103:51)

I mean, at the same time, I also think this is why I. I'm a hypocrite. At the same time, I thought it was beautiful watching somebody work out something in real time on camera. Camera. I thought that was a. An actual. Not to be corny, a very beautiful thing. Like in the middle of his answers, he was still trying to figure out. He's like, I'm in the moment of this entire thing, which I think is cool to watch as human being to human being. Because we've all been in situations where things are going left and we're trying to figure them out in real time.

Damaris (104:20)

People have said that about Orlando Brown for a while now.

Rory (104:25)

That was going to be my. My next him.

Damaris (104:27)

And sh is like, they the same.

Rory (104:28)

Like, no, they. They're not even. What? Orlando, you don't even know. You don't even know Shy's body like that. No, you can't do that.

Damaris (104:38)

Okay.

Rory (104:39)

How do you think they're the same?

Damaris (104:40)

So shot. Okay. Is Sh.

Mall (104:42)

I think Baby D is saying the same as far as, like, they say whatever the they want to say.

Damaris (104:45)

They say whatever they want to say. They're not. They haven't been mentally healthy in a while. And when people shove cameras in their faces, hoping they say absolute crazy.

Mall (104:54)

I think. But I think Orlando is. He's reached a point of. You think it's trolling 1000%.

Damaris (105:00)

I think Orlando is really mentally unhealthy. I don't think it's trolling.

Rory (105:02)

I think both times.

Mall (105:03)

I'm not saying he isn't mentally unhealthy. I'm just saying he also is trolling at the same time. Like when he sat down with Ray J and what's the other Marco.

Damaris (105:14)

Funny. Marco.

Mall (105:15)

And he started like biting the microphone. Like, it's like, come on. No, at that point, you know, come on, fam. Are you serious? Like, he's trolling. Like, he's definitely. He knows everybody thinks he's batshit crazy. He knows when he walks in a room and cameras are there, people are waiting for him to Say or do some crazy shit. Like, he knows that at this point. He knows.

Damaris (105:33)

Okay.

Mall (105:34)

But I'm not saying he hasn't been through some issues and had drug issues and things like that. We've saw, obviously, real moments as far as that goes. But I think he knows the lane he called for himself, and he knows he has people in the palm of his hands whenever he sits down for an interview. And he's like, all right, they're waiting for the next crazy Orlando moment. Like, I'm gonna give it to him. I gotta give him something. Like, he's definitely aware of that as well.

Rory (105:58)

I think those first interviews were very much somebody that has mental health issues on camera. And then he leaned into it. Him and Raspy started arguing. And they. They were both claiming blood and crip. No, like, they. They. They were yelling sets that neither one

Mall (106:18)

of them are a part of. Like.

Rory (106:19)

But no, they. He was screaming rolling 60s and throwing up a blood song. Oh, yes. I think it's. It's performing at the same time. It does appear, though, that Shiloh Love was. Was possibly. Never mind. He was arrested for yelling gay slurs.

Mall (106:39)

Oh, that's why he was arrested.

Rory (106:40)

Well, he was arrested for disturbing the peace and. And getting in a fight. But it was because there also may possibly be a hate crime charge that's added to what it was because it may have started from slurs. Now, he had said that he is homophobic if it means when big gays touch your leg, you don't like it.

Damaris (107:07)

Don't look at me. Why are you looking at me? Why are you looking at me?

Mall (107:11)

I just felt him when he said that. I felt the same way.

Damaris (107:14)

It's like when ma bout to say some shit that he know I'm gonna end up cutting out the episode. Just look at me before he said.

Mall (107:19)

Cause I just. I just felt shy when he said that I would be uncomfortable too, if big gay men started touching my leg. I'm not gay. Why are you touching my leg? I didn't think that was crazy for Shia to say.

Damaris (107:29)

I mean, but I feel like I

Mall (107:30)

don't see a world in where that would happen. Let me say that. Where was shy at when big gay dudes started touching his leg?

Rory (107:36)

Mardi Gras.

Mall (107:37)

All right, cool. It's a party town. It's a party. It's a card. Was. You know, we have a friend.

Damaris (107:41)

You know, they gay.

Mall (107:44)

I mean, what were they wearing? How were they dressed? Were they cladly dressed? What did they have on? Go ahead. Cut off jean shorts is gay. I Think that's a no. That's like a universal. That man might be gay. When it's like, not the. The long cut off jean shorts, the. The short, like the joints you would wear, Baby D. Okay, short. Like the short. Short jean shorts like in the photobook. Yeah. You know, that's gay men attire. Gay men love denim shorts. Like, but the short. The short denims, though, not the knee joints up here.

Damaris (108:17)

They gotta cut the thigh.

Mall (108:18)

If I sit down, I might show a little fur. Like them type of. You know, it's like, all right, that gentleman might be gay. That's all. I just like the denim shorts with the doc marten boots. You know, if they have the doc marten boots on, like the black with the denim sho. That gentleman might be gay. When they, like, super in shape. Gay men love the gym. Gay men gonna work out. They gonna look good for they man. Yeah. So, you know, if one of those dudes was to touch me, I would be uncomfortable too. That's all I'm saying. Like, don't touch me, fam.

Damaris (108:49)

I feel like if any grown man touched your leg, you will be uncomfortable. He doesn't have to have Daisy dukes on.

Rory (108:54)

Yeah.

Mall (108:54)

He can have one of Nike tech. If that nigga touched my leg, I'm gonna be like, yo, fam, now I gotta kill you. And your man you came with. Don't touching me. Yeah, I'm uncomfortable. Yeah. As a heterosexual man, no man should be touching me.

Rory (109:06)

I know. The case is petting. Shia LaBeouf is full of shit. There's no way he was sitting between two large gay men and they started grabbing his legs.

Mall (109:13)

No, they might have, though.

Rory (109:15)

He saw a gay person and yelled some shit he shouldn't have said.

Mall (109:19)

Yeah, I could see that happening.

Rory (109:20)

That's a thousand percent what happened. Yo, he was not just chilling and then just. Just.

Mall (109:24)

Nah. But you don't know. He's a. He's a Hollywood actor. The guys probably saw know who Shia is. They probably. Probably thought he was attractive. They probably read he was gay somewhere. It's Mardi Gras. We're all drinking.

Rory (109:35)

I don't think anyone's read that Shia LaBeouf is gay.

Mall (109:38)

I mean, I think it was something like that about shy before.

Damaris (109:40)

Yo, but also, I'm calling cat because a gay man not just gonna rub your leg. You, Shia LaBeau, he gonna rub your face. He gonna slide his hand down your face like this. If you shy a little.

Rory (109:50)

I've never seen the shy of thus,

Mall (109:53)

but slide his hand down his face like.

Damaris (109:56)

Oh, like he gonna call him cute or some like that. Like they're not gonna just grab your legs. Like, I don't like that. Making aggressive. Like, no, he's going to stroke your face gently.

Mall (110:05)

That's not aggressive.

Damaris (110:07)

No, but you can. It can make you uncomfortable. But don't say they grabbed your leg.

Mall (110:10)

Stroking your face isn't aggressive. Baby, if you on a date with a guy right now, he stroke your face. That's not aggressive to you?

Damaris (110:16)

What he look like?

Mall (110:16)

See? Exact.

Rory (110:17)

See, if we were all, if we were all walking down the street and a man came up to you and went like this to your face, promise you mall and I would knock the dog out of you.

Mall (110:28)

Like, oh, baby D. Oh, my God, it's so good to see you.

Rory (110:30)

You.

Mall (110:31)

That's not aggressive.

Rory (110:31)

It would be hand to throat immediately. Like, that's aggressive.

Damaris (110:34)

It's aggressive.

Mall (110:35)

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. So I don't know.

Damaris (110:36)

But at Marty Gr. Who is shy?

Mall (110:39)

At Marty Gr. Acceptable. Nah, not for shy. He don't want the big gays touching him. He not rolling.

Rory (110:45)

But all right. Anyone? Non consensually. That's big. That touches me. I'm going to feel like if, if Ronda Rousey grabbed my thigh, like, unconsenally, I'd be, I'd be scared.

Mall (110:57)

No, I'd be like, yo, I'd be,

Rory (110:57)

I'd be, I would be terrified.

Mall (110:59)

I need to work on my goblet squats a little bit. Like, what I need to do. I would ask Rhonda, like, what I need to do in the gym. I would think she's saying, like, yo,

Rory (111:05)

Ronda Rousey is beautiful. I'm just saying, unconsensually, somebody that can clearly beat me up, I would feel threatened.

Mall (111:12)

Oh, so it's. Whenever you feel like you can be beat up.

Rory (111:14)

If someone is unconsensionally touching me and I feel threatened, like, I. They would harm me. Yes, I, I, I feel threatened.

Mall (111:23)

Okay.

Rory (111:23)

Do you think you could beat up Ronda Rousey?

Mall (111:25)

No, I don't.

Rory (111:26)

So if you didn't want her touch and she touched you, would you not feel fear?

Mall (111:31)

I would let her have.

Rory (111:32)

She was going to take your manhood?

Mall (111:33)

Yeah, I would let her have a Rhonda she could take. She could have a way with me. Rhonda, go ahead, man. Go. Go ahead. Get you some. Go ahead and get you a little.

Rory (111:42)

I don't know how much of this we're gonna keep. This is just.

Damaris (111:44)

No, I feel like this isn't that bad. And I'm A liberal.

Mall (111:48)

Wait, what the baby d. What? You're a liberal? What the. Is happening?

Damaris (111:56)

Yes, on paper.

Mall (111:57)

Oh, God.

Rory (111:58)

I'm the only liberal in this room. We don't know about Ryan yet, but I'm the only liberal in this room.

Damaris (112:02)

Ryan's a liberal from California.

Mall (112:04)

Oh, he's a big, dim, big D. Big Democrat.

Rory (112:11)

Anyways, I did really enjoy this. This sh. Buff interview.

Mall (112:14)

No, this was. This was dope.

Rory (112:16)

I. I do hope he finds the piece. Piece that he's looking for. I hope he doesn't have to sit down for a while. But he said he's fine if he has to do that.

Mall (112:24)

I believe him. I don't believe anything is wrong with Shia LaBeouf.

Damaris (112:26)

Well, since we're talking about mental health, I wanted to get you guys opinion on. You know, we love to diagnose people here. Like, Rory has called people autistic and all of these things. Right? You. You did diagnose the game with autism.

Rory (112:39)

I said he was bipolar.

Damaris (112:40)

Both. It was definitely both.

Rory (112:42)

No, I said he was bipolar.

Damaris (112:43)

Oh, bipolar. Okay.

Mall (112:44)

Okay.

Damaris (112:44)

Well, since we diagnose people, I came across a tik tok. There was a young white woman shout out to her and her pain. And she was talking about her ex, her ex being a new NFL player, Tez Johnson, who got signed to the Bucks last year, drafted to the Bucks. And she was talking about the day that she got engaged and the day she got engaged. Everything was beautiful. She was in love. Yeah. A couple months later, his ex, you know, once his ex saw that they were engaged, blah, blah, blah, contacted her and sent her some screenshots of some things that he sent her on the day of the engagement. On the day of the engagement, Tez Johnson text his ex at 911 in the morning and said, need your throat.

Mall (113:22)

Never forget

Damaris (113:26)

need your throat. Never forget his alert at 9:11am he

Rory (113:30)

didn't forget her throat.

Mall (113:31)

No, he didn't forget her throat. Never forget.

Damaris (113:33)

Day of his engagement, right? So text that goes on to plan the whole day, you know, proposes to his fiance, all of these things, right? He then. Then he then texts at the end of the day, right? 12:22 in the morning after proposing to his fiance. And she says, yes. He says, when can I nut in you?

Mall (113:51)

And you like, I want to the ex girlfriend.

Damaris (113:53)

To the ex girlfriend. Day he got engaged.

Mall (113:56)

The day he got engaged.

Damaris (113:57)

So before the engagement it was need your throat. Need your throat. After the engagement it was, when can I nut in you? And you like, I want same day, same day.

Mall (114:06)

Thespian. What Were her replies she harder.

Damaris (114:09)

Oh, she, she cut those. She harded the knee. Your throat and then she cut everything else out, I guess before she screenshot it and sent it.

Mall (114:17)

Why they do that?

Rory (114:18)

Yeah, no, let me see what you do. Let me see what you said.

Damaris (114:20)

That doesn't matter.

Rory (114:20)

You're right.

Mall (114:21)

You're right.

Rory (114:21)

Of course it doesn't matter.

Mall (114:22)

She didn't know he was getting engaged. So you're right, I understand that. But like, just for context, just curious

Rory (114:28)

what your reply was.

Mall (114:29)

Curious what your reply is. That's all. But there's a reason you blacked it out, so. All right, cool. But he's wild. Let's start this. He's wild for that. Like on the day you getting engaged, you texting your ex and knead your throat and I wanna nut in you and what?

Damaris (114:43)

When can I nut in you and fuck you like I want?

Mall (114:45)

When can I nut in you and fuck you like I want?

Damaris (114:47)

Laying next to your new fiance.

Mall (114:49)

Laying next to your 5 hour old fiance. When you put it that way, yeah, he's tripping. He's wild for that. He's wild.

Damaris (114:59)

Texting like that is wild. Period, like period, whatever.

Mall (115:03)

Well, yeah, if that's our relationship, we have a sexual relationship. Yeah, that's a normal. That's a normal Saturday morning. That's how we do wake up, wake and bake. You know what I'm saying? That's how we do.

Rory (115:10)

But then why get engaged if you feeling this way that morning at 9 11.

Mall (115:16)

Maybe you should keep this wedding day engaged.

Rory (115:18)

Like just hold it like for us to be like, you know what? I don't know. Today, maybe it's not the day.

Mall (115:21)

Yeah, it's not the day.

Rory (115:22)

Maybe eventually we could get there.

Mall (115:24)

I still need her throat. Like maybe I don't need to have a fiance. Like goes hand in hand. If you need another woman's throat, you don't need that with fiance.

Damaris (115:31)

Oh, why don't you propose to the one that you talk to like that? Because I would assume if you texted her like that. Because it's clearly just sex.

Mall (115:37)

It's clearly just like that's my, you know, I need her throat. I don't need the rest of her. Nah, just the throat.

Rory (115:45)

Well, I need somewhere to nut as well.

Mall (115:48)

The throat.

Rory (115:48)

Nobody said he's gonna. Not inside. Well, I guess maybe he's talking about the throat. Yeah, I thought he was talking more about her vagina.

Mall (115:54)

When can he say when can I? When can I?

Damaris (115:55)

When can I nut in you and you like I want?

Mall (115:57)

Yeah, when Can I nut in you? The throats.

Rory (115:59)

I've never tmi. I've never came in a woman's mouth and thought I nutted inside of her, but I guess by definition I did.

Damaris (116:07)

Yeah. So sorry to my parents that are watching this.

Rory (116:10)

Yeah.

Mall (116:10)

I'm just saying he's. He's. Either way, he's wild for texting his ex that and he gets engaged. That's like fam. You. You got you living, like, multiple lives at this point.

Damaris (116:20)

But is that, like the horror complex of like. Because I've had this conversation with men that I've dated where there were things. They were like. There's things I'm just not comfortable doing with you because those are things we do to horse.

Mall (116:32)

Fine. Right. This is totally different. You're. This is the day you're getting engaged.

Damaris (116:36)

But what I'm saying is, the issue might be is that he looks at his future wife or ex. Future wife one way and that other girl another way. Yeah.

Mall (116:45)

With her just like his porn. His little porn star. They have great sex. It's just like a sexual chemistry.

Damaris (116:50)

Married a porn star.

Rory (116:51)

Why would you not want to slut out your wife? Some people don't.

Damaris (116:55)

Especially in the South. Some people don't.

Mall (116:56)

Some people don't. Yeah. Some people don't. Some people don't feel like they should be doing that to their wife.

Rory (117:02)

And I mean slowed out in. In the most positive way and the most. If you want to be with this person. All right, so then you're just dedicated to a life of cheating some people. Because if those are your needs, which are fine. Consensually. Like what. Why wouldn't you want to do that to your girl?

Mall (117:18)

But that's a real. Because maybe the fiance is not into that type of sex.

Rory (117:22)

Oh, she's not. Then that.

Mall (117:23)

That's what I'm saying. We don't.

Rory (117:24)

Maybe that's. Maybe that's not your person.

Damaris (117:26)

Maybe he don't want her to be into that.

Mall (117:28)

Maybe he don't want her to be.

Damaris (117:29)

Which is a. That's the conversation me and Ma are having. That's a real thing.

Mall (117:32)

Yeah. A lot of people don't look at their wife and say, you know what? I'm.

Rory (117:35)

No, we're all having the same conversation. I think that's insane that you would not want your life partner to explore whore sexually. I don't. I think that's very odd.

Mall (117:44)

No, I hear you. I'm just saying he just shouldn't have gotten engaged. No, Like,

Rory (117:52)

I think you should explore more with your wife. Than you would with a.

Damaris (117:54)

But some. But some people are raised that good girls don't do these things.

Rory (118:00)

It's a wife now.

Damaris (118:01)

Women and men are. Girls just don't do that. We saw in the brothers where she was like, my mom taught me that good girls don't suck dick. Like that. That's a real thing. And it continues in the same. That's a real thing.

Mall (118:12)

I remember a girl told me that one time and proceeded to eat me up like, I ain't never been ate up before. I was like, all right, why you lying like that? She was like, what, Now I don't trust you? Because now you know you lying. You knew that head was crazy.

Damaris (118:27)

You ain't. That wasn't your first time.

Mall (118:28)

It was not your first time. Like, in that. Like that. No, that wasn't her first time. Not that I care, but it's like she was being very, you know, like, she don't do this very shy.

Rory (118:40)

Very like, oh, those are the ones.

Mall (118:43)

Clearly.

Damaris (118:43)

Those are the ones. Somebody tell you I don't do this often. They do it every day.

Rory (118:47)

They do that.

Mall (118:49)

But by bi weekly. They do that.

Rory (118:51)

I guess you got. All right. I don't even know if it's a south thing, because. Rest in peace to Eugene Farrell. I'm. I'm so sorry, grandpa, for telling the story. He did tell me that Italian men don't let their wife suck dick because they kiss the kids.

Damaris (119:04)

Kids.

Rory (119:04)

And I was like, who wouldn't want their. Who wouldn't want their wife to suck their dick?

Mall (119:09)

Yeah, that's. That's. I don't believe that.

Damaris (119:11)

I believe it. I don't believe that sounds like something.

Rory (119:13)

I believe that my grandfather's era. I believe that. But then I was thinking, like, well, all right, well, you said Italian. We're Irish, grandma. What the fuck?

Mall (119:23)

There you go. That fast? We solved it that fast. Rest in peace, Eugene Farrell.

Rory (119:30)

But no dead ass like you should want to slut your wife out. I. I think that's a. A pretty easy way to keep a marriage moving for the rest of your life and not be faithful. Like, you shouldn't. Look at your wife. She's a good girl. She's married and doing things with you. That's a good girl.

Mall (119:45)

That's your little bucket now.

Damaris (119:47)

Oh, that's. Is that what we're referring to him these days?

Mall (119:50)

No, he's. She a wife, but, you know, so sorry.

Rory (119:52)

So she just exposed this on the. The Internet and just.

Damaris (119:55)

Yeah, she. She talked about it.

Rory (119:56)

Receiver. We don't even particularly care for she.

Damaris (119:58)

Well, she. She. I guess she had. She's an influencer. And at the time, her engagement was big and it was called off. Suddenly, she wasn't living with him. She wasn't married. So people were wondering, like, what the happened? And she came out. She was like, yeah, I have no problem exposing terrible people because since I originally talked about this, a bunch of other girls have come out and said, oh, well, I'm dating him. And this looked funny and this and this. And it's like, yeah, I don't mind when people, like, if you're gonna do horrible to people like that, I don't mind you getting put on front street. Like, I understand, like, keeping a pee, but. Nah, if you gonna play with people's, like, safety and emotions and, like, that. People need to out you as a terrible person. If. And there will still be women. You're rich. There will still be women who will date you. I'm not stopping you from getting.

Mall (120:40)

I agree with you.

Rory (120:42)

I. I just don't know if you're gonna get the response that you want. Like, no one's sitting here thinking about how she's feeling. We're laughing at the. We're laughing at the text.

Damaris (120:51)

She has an audience, and her audience cares about, like, yeah, it's. Of course a bunch of men on a PO Cast is. Are gonna laugh at her. That's fine.

Rory (120:58)

Well, no, I do feel like I'm. Yeah, well, I'm lying. I don't.

Damaris (121:01)

Like, you don't care.

Rory (121:03)

I'm not Demani. I'm not gonna lose sleep over it. But I mean, I do feel. Feel for her. Like, that's up. Yeah.

Damaris (121:09)

I didn't bring it up for you.

Rory (121:10)

At 9am on your engagement, you're saying, let me get that mouth.

Damaris (121:13)

I brought it up so y' all can laugh at the text messages. That's why it was on the docket. All right.

Mall (121:18)

Do we have voicemails?

Damaris (121:19)

We do.

Mall (121:19)

You've got mail.

Damaris (121:23)

So Rory and Ma and Damaris.

Rory (121:27)

I was looking at Saha shooting at

Damaris (121:29)

J. Cole or whatever.

Mall (121:30)

Like, and it got me to thinking

Rory (121:33)

about, like, lyricists in the south, like, specifically Atlanta.

Mall (121:37)

Like, was the audio good on that?

Rory (121:40)

You know, Andre 3000 is the go to, but that's the name throw out

Mall (121:44)

there just to make it sound like they know what they talking about. I really think about it.

Rory (121:51)

I think Saha is a better lyricist than Andre 3000. Like, I don't know.

Mall (121:58)

He has. He got the way doper lines.

Rory (122:00)

Like, Andre can kind of play with his flow. Maybe a Little bit better, but bar for bar size.

Mall (122:07)

Kind of getting Andre 3000 out of here. What y' all think

Rory (122:14)

you hate three stacks so you can go ahead first.

Mall (122:16)

I don't hate three stacks.

Rory (122:18)

Atm.

Mall (122:22)

I. I understand what he's saying. I. I don't. I get what he's saying. I understand what he's saying. 3000 probably has wider range when it comes to flow and things like that, but he's just talking about lyrics and bars. 3,000 got bars. But if you listen to Saha, like, and like, really a Saha fan, I ain't gonna say he better than. He's a better lyricist in 3000. But he's right there. He's right there. Like, he's not like, 3,000 is not gonna just wrap circles around Saha. He wouldn't wrap circles around him. Saha doesn't get that again. Saha doesn't have the material, the output that 3,000 has over the years. And that's my only narcissize. I wish he put out more music and dropped more albums because he would be in those conversations if people heard him more often. But to what this gentleman is saying, I'm not gonna say he's lyrically getting 3,000 out of here. I'm not gonna say that. But he is right there though. He's in that his pen can stand next to 3000 when it comes to bars and literally lyrics, without a doubt. Artist, artistry. That's another conversation. I don't know if he's the artist that 3000 is, but lyrically rapping. Just put a beat on and let these two MCs go. I don't know if 3,000 is going to wrap circles around side. I don't. I don't. I don't think that would happen.

Rory (123:53)

These are like 11pm Barbershop conversations to me. When everyone's just running out of to talk about this is. It's the weirdest comparison Harrison ever.

Damaris (124:01)

Why he bought up this. People talk about rappers from the south and best rappers.

Rory (124:06)

If. If Three Stacks was in a different era and was trying to come up the way Sahai was, where he has to make the biggest statement on so appalled or like he has to do leakers freestyles. Do I think that three Stacks could do. Could rap the way Sahai raps? Like these two records that came out. Of course I think he could do that. He made records as whole life. That was his focus every time was. Was not. Unless you get. If you go through life and times of Andre Benjamin, like that's him. Rapping for four minutes straight just to show you I can do it. Like, it's just a weird comparison because it's different eras. Like, do I think King Los could rap with Nas?

Damaris (124:47)

Yeah.

Rory (124:48)

But I also think if Nas dedicated his life to rap the way King Los does, Nas could do a it better. I. I just think it's. It's an. It's such a weird comparison because they

Mall (124:59)

both had different objectives, just lyrics.

Rory (125:01)

But that's what I'm saying. I. Three Stacks always held, for the most part, a lot of his on unless it was the features on songs to 16 bar hook. 16 bars. Like he comes from that era of making songs and albums where Sai High has done that. Yes. But he's also in an era where people are just barring people the down now. So I just. I don't think it's a fair comparison.

Damaris (125:25)

Okay.

Rory (125:26)

To even like put those two in a category.

Damaris (125:30)

Okay. But if you had to choose, gun to your head, who could rap better, who was a better lyricist, which is different than who can rap better?

Rory (125:39)

Andre2000

Damaris (125:42)

okay,

Mall (125:48)

I understand. But this is what I do like though. I like the fact that people are slouch.

Rory (125:54)

I don't want to make that very fucking clear.

Mall (125:56)

I just like the fact that people are even saying that though.

Rory (126:00)

Same. I. I do like that his name is. Because Saha does belong in the Atlanta.

Mall (126:03)

That's what I like. I like the fact that people are even speaking about Saha. Like, because again, he's One of the MCs that should be spoken about. He's one of the rappers that we should be talking about. And his skills set, his songwriting ability is incredible.

Rory (126:19)

So I just don't think lyricism always just lands on punchlines. I guess that's kind of my point because I still put lyricism and content in the same bag. I don't think everything has to be. And mind you, Sa has content. Like, for sure. I think Sahai should be brought up in the Atlanta lyricist top five conversation without question s with without question question. You could make a. A huge case if you want to get into ly lyricist bag in that. Yes, Saha is there. It's going to be a lot of Dungeon Family ti but Saha is right there, I think. I think Saha is one of the best lyricist, period. But yeah, I just. Three Stacks. He's just different though. He is.

Mall (127:05)

But I just love to pack the fact that Saha is being, you know, giving his flowers. That's it, man. Just start talking about the. The. The. The real MCs the real rappers, the real spitters, the real bar writers, like, start. Let's start talking about them some more. I understand, you know, he doesn't have the. The music that some of these guys has, but the skill set is incredible.

Rory (127:25)

But then again, with his era, I don't know, find me an album that can compete with no dope on Sundays.

Mall (127:32)

Right?

Rory (127:32)

Like, if you're going through a. A lyricist, this type of bag in the last 15 years. Yeah, there's good music on that album. It's not just rap.

Mall (127:42)

Great.

Rory (127:43)

That album is incredible.

Mall (127:44)

Great music on that album. Shout out to Saha, man. Yeah. Before we go, we want to send a rest in peace to Oliver Grant. Power Power, one of the architects, one of the founders, one of the pillars of the Wuang Clan. We lost him last week, so we want to send the rest in peace. Prayers, condolences, condolences to Oliver Grant's family, condolences to the entire Wu Tang Clan, and thank you, Powell, for everything that you contributed to hip hop, everything that you gave the culture. And again, continued prayers and condolences to his family. Also recipes to Michael. 5,000 watts. We lost him, I think a couple weeks ago. Houston DJ founder Swisher House, one of the pioneers of Chopped and screwed out of Houston. One of the big, big pillars in Houston, hip hop. We lost him as well. So rest in peace to Michael Watts and prayers and condolences to his family.

Rory (128:39)

And also before you get there, though, like, that's one that I think hip hop needs to celebrate a little bit more.

Mall (128:46)

5,000 watts.

Rory (128:48)

I've said for years, especially based off a lot of what Drake has done with the Houston sound. Come from. From Mike Watson.

Mall (128:55)

Oh, no, for sure.

Rory (128:56)

Like modern music, even from 808 with that dark comes from Houston. Everything that he was pushing when. Yeah, I can't say enough. And to Power as well. I mean, doing the woowear thing, I don't think. I don't even know if. If Rocaware gets to where it's at without opening up a woowear store in Staten island, of all places that you do that. Like, these are people that completely shift. Rest in peace to Nipsey. Everything we talk about with his marathon store starts with woowear and what they were doing in Staten Island. Absolutely independently as well. On the clothing side. Raekwon giving 10,000. All right, it. Let's try it.

Mall (129:34)

Yeah, like, just showing us that it's possible.

Rory (129:37)

2. Two people that were legitimate visionaries, that you can see their DNA in everything that we champion today comes with power and comes with. With Mike Watts for sure. And then, I mean, of course, Jesse Jackson, rest in peace.

Mall (129:51)

Jesse Jackson. We lost him a couple. Couple weeks ago as well. Obviously, Jesse Jackson, one of the biggest pillars that we had coming out of the civil rights movement and everything that this country, everything that black people had to go through in this country. He was a big figure in voicing the oppressions of the black people and fighting for civil rights and for justice for black people in this country. So rest in peace to Jesse Jackson, and thank you for everything that you've given. Giving us.

Rory (130:17)

I. I never met Jesse Jackson, but he walked past me once.

Mall (130:22)

I wasn't Jesse. I was Al Sharpton.

Damaris (130:25)

Yo.

Rory (130:26)

All right, Skinny Al. When I was working for. I think this was the first week we had partnered with KWO Kev, Kevin Lyle's company. And I'm sitting at my desk, and it, like, faced the door of the entrance conference. First week of sitting there on my laptop doing social media for kwl, and in walks Jesse Jackson. I'm like, where am I right now? Staring at Jesse like, it's Jesse Jackson.

Mall (130:55)

Jesse Jackson. Reverend Jesse Jackson. Also rest in peace. Catherine o', Hara, most notably known as. From the mom of Home Alone. She passed away last year. And also Robert Duvall, actor. Another actor that we lost. Some of my favorite movies.

Rory (131:15)

You guys are telling me this in real time. I did not know Robert Duvall passed away.

Mall (131:18)

Yeah, Robert Duvall passed.

Rory (131:19)

Jesus Christ. Rest in peace. Yeah.

Mall (131:21)

So rest in peace to Catherine o' Hara and rest in peace to Robert Duvall. Pairs and condolences to their families. All right, well, it was good seeing y'.

Damaris (131:28)

All.

Rory (131:30)

Quickly before we do get out of here, Jay Z and Biggs dropped another record. Listen, man, we just trying to get some pluses. Just us.

Mall (131:42)

All right, well, if something happens, then, you know,

Rory (131:47)

he just randomly dropping stuff on streams too.

Mall (131:49)

Okay. I mean, you know, why not?

Rory (131:51)

I'm not gonna say the name of the song, but

Mall (131:54)

why not, man? Part of my white face.

Rory (131:57)

I did appreciate that they did just put the actual name of the song on the arc artwork.

Mall (132:01)

Yeah. Why not?

Rory (132:02)

Because you could do it because you own that.

Mall (132:03)

Exactly. It's his. His art.

Rory (132:07)

So, like, I mean, should I stand outside Barclays now? Like, what do you think? What do you think is the best route?

Mall (132:14)

I mean, you can if you want to. I don't know if you should, but, you know, if you want to go to the Barclays and just pitch a tent out there and just, you know, just sleep for a couple days, do your Thing.

Rory (132:26)

Look, I. I just want to put me in the noseblees.

Damaris (132:28)

I don't care.

Rory (132:29)

Matter of fact, I prefer. I want to see the whole show.

Mall (132:31)

We'll see. I mean, I. I mean, I would love to see Jay do a show at the Barclays. Just a reasonable doubt. Reasonable doubt show. I would love to see that, but I don't know. We'll see who.

Damaris (132:41)

Rory got a. To get us a ticket. Like, I'm not going to lie. Like, if there's like an assistant or something who needs some whole. Like, Rory is ready to. For whoever. Whoever we got to do. Like.

Rory (132:50)

I'm glad you put that much stake in me. I appreciate that I said some hole.

Damaris (132:54)

Like, I didn't like, you gon have to get some butt up to like, a gay assistant.

Rory (132:58)

The dick.

Damaris (132:58)

Not going to do it, bro.

Mall (133:00)

Yikes.

Damaris (133:00)

Not going to do it.

Rory (133:01)

I thought that was funny.

Mall (133:02)

No, I didn't. On that note, we'll get out of here. We'll talk to y' all soon. Be safe. Be blessed. I'm that he's just ginger. Peace.

Damaris (133:09)

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Rory (133:12)

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