Episode 464 | Kate Winslow

Summary

New Rory & MAL – Episode 464 | “Kate Winslow”

Release Date: March 6, 2026
Hosts: Rory, Mal, Ryan, Damaris

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Episode Overview

This episode of New Rory & MAL brings the usual irreverent humor and unfiltered takes on pop culture, music news, internet rumors, and personal anecdotes. The hosts riff about Jay-Z album rumors, generational shifts in hip-hop tastes, personal boundaries in relationships, new music releases, and classic moments in R&B and hip-hop history. With playful banter, occasional vulnerability, and classic “locker room” tangents, the guys keep conversation moving while fielding wild voicemails and hot takes on everything from neosoul labeling to the traumatizing power of 90s music videos.

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Key Topics & Discussions

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Office Vibes & Previous Episodes

[03:13-05:47]

• The hosts return after a wild episode with Fredo Bang, full of risqué stories and “the art of lovemaking.”
• Fredo Bang is described as the “Stephen A. Smith” of OnlyFans and porn commentary.
• “He should be the Stephen A. of the porn and OnlyFans world.” — Mall [04:25]
• Banter about whether to give “Peach” a mic, which would end the show in controversy.

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Death, Funerals, and Grieving Styles

[05:54-09:02]

• The crew debates partying vs. crying after death. Ryan thinks it’s egotistical for people to dictate others’ grief.
• Dark humor around autopsies, cremation, and donating bodies to science.
• “You can’t tell people how to grieve… you’re dead!” — Ryan [06:22]

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Body Image Trends: BBLs, Gym Culture, Tiana Taylor

[10:00-11:35]

• Discussion on the decline of wild BBL (Brazilian Butt Lift) trends among women and a shift toward “gym girlies.”
• “The way we’ve changed from skinny jeans to baggy is like the way chicks are dealing with their butts right now.” — Mall [10:50]

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Makeup and Movie Iconography: Eddie Murphy, Michael B. Jordan

[12:37-14:36]

• Comparing Michael B. Jordan’s twin roles to Eddie Murphy’s multi-character classics (The Nutty Professor, Coming to America).
• Behind-the-scenes: Eddie and Arsenio Hall would hit NYC clubs still in makeup as their Coming to America characters.

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Jay-Z Album Rumors & Social Media Speculation

[14:36-22:51]

• Rumor: Jay-Z dropping an album April 3rd with features from Beyoncé and Travis Scott (origins traced to a Travis Scott stand account).
• Mall plays coy but admits it’s plausible Jay-Z is recording; the group jokes about air-tagging Jay-Z or engineer Guru.
• Debate on what would inspire Jay-Z to return to music: business critiques, culture debates, changes in public opinion.

Notable Quote:

• “If Jay is creating new music now and he’s recording new music now, it’s attached to something. It’s not just, oh, they talking crazy about me online… That’s not his, that doesn’t motivate him.” — Rory [22:51]

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Jay-Z’s Relationship with Public Critique & Eminem Comparisons

[18:38-22:51]

• Rory and Mall argue about whether Jay-Z is entering the Eminem phase: admired but also questioned by younger generations and non-NYC fans.
• Jay-Z’s tendency to respond subtly to critiques within his music, rather than through press.

Notable Quote:

• “Jay actively, actively, actively pays attention to everything currently going on... When Flex dropped the bomb that Jay-Z is a secret burner, is that that crazy to think?” — Mall [25:04]

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Rap Beef Speculations & Jay-Z vs. Drake

[29:10-33:52]

• Deep dive into whether Jay and Drake have ever truly thrown “shots” at each other or if it’s just internet narratives.
• Decoding ambiguous lyrics: “Miss Drizzy” debate from Jay-Z's track.
• The crew agrees: no real public beef, mostly internet myth-making.

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New Music Friday: Excitement, Skepticism, and Recommendations

[38:34-51:57]

• Rumored but doubted new 50 Cent record; more likely, a forthcoming documentary about allegations against TI.
• Real enthusiasm for new music: Saha the Prince’s track discussing the GOOD Music/Kanye breakup, Gnarls Barkley’s (CeeLo/Danger Mouse) long-awaited return, Ty Dolla $ign’s new EP, J Skis, Lareezy, Joyce Rice, Yebba, Pimmy.
• “But it’s just good that a rapper like Saha, who… is a phenomenal MC… is recording and putting music out.” — Rory [43:14]

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“Neo-Soul” Label: Rafael Sadiq’s Perspective

[54:21-63:54]

• Rafael Sadiq (via IG post) says neo-soul is a problematic label invented by industry people to limit marketing budgets, not a genre descriptor.
• The crew dissects how music categories like "traditional R&B" and "neo-soul" are often codes for limiting an artist’s commercial support, despite their usefulness for fans seeking new sounds.
• “Neo Soul was a term created by one black executive… to identify which acts would not require crossover marketing budgets.” — Quoted by Rory [54:21]
• “I can only imagine what Joyce is, what you meant by bro.” — Mall [52:06, re: Joyce Rice’s “Break Me In"]

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Drugs, Depression, and Generational Drug Culture

[64:00-67:09]

• Billy Idol says crack helped him quit heroin. The hosts riff on crack vs. heroin’s effects, longevity of “crackheads,” and the FDA’s approval of a Johnson & Johnson ketamine nasal spray for depression.

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Britney Spears: DUI & Conservatorship Nuance

[73:17-76:46]

• Reports of Britney’s DUI and erratic social media (e.g. playing with knives); Mall questions whether her father’s conservatorship was fully unfair.
• Desire to see a fully recovered Britney back on a Vegas stage.

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Teenage Impulses & “Peaked in High School” Syndrome

[93:08-95:51]

• Reflecting on how popular high school kids rarely stay “lit” in adult life, and how lack of impulse control can stymie long-term success.
• “I think the kids that have the least amount of impulse in high school are typically the people that have a longer career.” — Mall [95:51]

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Voicemail Segment

[82:32-90:16]

• Caller “Mitch” updates on his toxic ex who once threw piss at him; despite her croc tears and calls, he’s now helping her move but they’re not together.
• Group gives advice laced with tough love: “Don’t be a sucker. Don’t be that guy. There’s enough of those in America.” — Rory [85:51]

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Notable Quotes & Moments

| Timestamp | Speaker | Quote/Clip | |-------------|---------|------------------------------------------------------------| | 04:25 | Mall | “He should be the Stephen A. of the porn and OnlyFans world.” | | 10:50 | Mall | “The way we’ve changed from skinny jeans to baggy is like the way chicks are dealing with their butts right now.” | | 14:36 | Rory | “I don’t know shit.” (regarding Jay-Z rumors) | | 22:51 | Rory | “It’s not just… that doesn’t motivate him.” (on Jay creating music in response to critique) | | 25:04 | Mall | “Jay actively… pays attention to everything currently going on.” | | 29:32 | Mall | “They made three songs after that shit happened.” (on Jay & Drake) | | 43:14 | Rory | “Saha… is a phenomenal MC… it’s good to see him recording.”| | 54:21 | Rafael Sadiq | “Neo Soul was a term created by one black executive purely as a shorthand." (quoted) | | 85:51 | Rory | “Don’t be a sucker. Don’t be that guy. There’s enough of those in America.” |

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Music Reactions & New Releases

Hotly Anticipated:

• Gnarls Barkley reunion album (“Can’t even start to say what St. Elsewhere did to my life…” — Mall [47:05]).
• Ty Dolla $ign’s Girl Music, Vol. 1, features including Ron Isley and Leon Thomas [50:06].
• Yebba, Pimmy, J Skis, Lareezy, and Joyce Rice projects raved as must listens.

Cautious Takes:

• 50 Cent rumored new music—crew is skeptical, wants a TI diss if anything.
• Saha’s new track expected to spill tea on Kanye & GOOD Music split.

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Pop Culture & Personal Anecdotes

R-rated Early 2000s:

• Memories triggered by classic videos/posters (Britney Spears, Lil Kim’s “Hardcore”).
• Hilariously intense debate over whether Titanic showed “bush” in Kate Winslet’s nude scene (and whether her name is “Winslow”) [81:00–82:20].

Drug Talk:

• “Crackheads don’t die… you ain’t never been to a crackhead funeral.” — Rory [64:58].
• Critique of society’s casual approach to prescription ketamine for depression [66:15–67:09].

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Listener Voicemails: Tales from the Toxic Trenches

[82:32–90:16]

• Revisiting a man whose girlfriend threw piss at him: he’s still lending her a hand, despite everyone’s advice.
• “If you want our permission to stay with her because that’s what you’re gonna do regardless… Do I think you deserve better? Nah, not really.” — Ryan [87:01]

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Closing Thoughts

As always, New Rory & MAL finds the sweet spot between barbershop debates, music nerd-out, and chaotic storytelling. This episode packs in rumors, controversial opinions, and raw stories that are as funny as they are revealing—with just enough toxic advice and authentic music head wisdom to keep both the laughs and the insights rolling.

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Additional Notable Timestamps

• [13:51] – How transformative movie makeup was for Eddie Murphy in the 80s
• [42:10] – Saha the Prince and the anticipation for his “tea”
• [47:05] – Central Park memories at a Gnarls Barkley show
• [63:54] – Ari Lennox’s calling out awards show categories for being “boxes”
• [76:59] – Generational shifts in what “turns you on” in music videos
• [93:08] – Popularity peaking too soon and impulse control in high school

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If you missed the episode, this summary gets you all the funniest moments, best debates, music picks, and signature New Rory & MAL energy.

Transcript

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[Ryan]

No worry and ma.

[Mall]

No conductor,

[Ryan]

no chloride.

[Mall]

Welcome back.

[Rory]

Yes. Yes.

[Mall]

We had to sage this entire office.

[Rory]

Oh, yeah.

[Mall]

Of the impurities that happened yesterday.

[Rory]

Oh, man.

[Ryan]

Yeah. What the was going on? All I saw was a clip. I left early yesterday. I see one clip and I'm like, these niggas horned out.

[Rory]

Nah. Well, you know, we had Fredo Bang was here.

[Mall]

Yes, Alfredo.

[Rory]

Fredo Bang Most Hated to available now in your DSPs.

[Mall]

Yes, right now.

[Rory]

Yeah, our good guy Alfredo was here and Major was here yesterday. And he was just explaining the Major. Some of his utilities and his abilities in the bedroom, which that was all

[Mall]

just the art of lovemaking.

[Rory]

Just the art of lovemaking. That's what, that's all he was explaining

[Ryan]

was the whole interview like that or.

[Rory]

I mean, we talked about music.

[Mall]

Yeah. But anytime we got to music, it somehow got turned into an only fans girl or a porn star.

[Rory]

Well, Fredo was letting us know he's a content sore.

[Mall]

Yes.

[Rory]

He, he, he, he delves deep into the of genre of entertainment and the porn genre of entertainment. So he was just letting us know, like some of his favorite creators and innovators in those worlds. That's all.

[Mall]

Which I think in the content world is a perfect lane for him. Like he should be the Stephen A. Of the porn and only fans world.

[Rory]

Absolutely, Absolutely.

[Mall]

I know they leak a lot of shit on Reddit. He could, he could stop the he, you know, give the creators, you know, more empowerment and he could do his Skip Stephen A type thing with. With the only fans world.

[Rory]

Absolutely.

[Mall]

So we know who to pay for and who not to pay for.

[Rory]

Most Importantly, most hated 2 is available.

[Mall]

And when we want to talk about that, we just went back. We're back.

[Rory]

Sponsored by Boost Mobile Unlimited talk text and yes.

[Mall]

So please, please watch that Fredo Bang episode. Maybe not in the morning. We did post a clip in the morning and all the comments were like, no, it's not even new.

[Rory]

What a better way to wake up. It gets the lymphatic, you know?

[Mall]

Yeah, Drainage.

[Rory]

Drainage going. You know what I mean?

[Mall]

Sometimes you wake up with morning wood.

[Rory]

You got to just get it, get it, get things moving, make sure you're still alive, make you still with us,

[Mall]

you know, It's a natural part of life.

[Rory]

Exactly. Sometimes. Sometimes.

[Ryan]

Yo, my homeboy called me yesterday, like, hey, I just Want to let you know, I'm seeing everything you guys are doing on Netflix. It's so cool, yada yada. But why don't you guys give Peach a mic? I said we wouldn't last the year. Oh, you know we wouldn't last the year.

[Rory]

No, Peach.

[Mall]

It'd be a great year. I want to make that very clear.

[Ryan]

It'd be a great fight, a great final walkout. For sure. We went last year.

[Rory]

Go out with a bang. Yeah.

[Mall]

Whenever we find out if we have, like, a few months to live, we're just gonna put a camera and mic on Peach.

[Rory]

That's it.

[Mall]

And we're gonna give him the topics.

[Rory]

We gotta put the camera mic on Peach as we're gonna. Packing up the studio. Like, we're gonna break down the set while he's talking. Cause that'll be the last episode ever.

[Ryan]

Absolutely not.

[Mall]

I would let Peach speak at my funeral.

[Rory]

Oh, he has to.

[Mall]

That would be great.

[Rory]

I would absolutely love that. He has to speak. He has to, like. He has to be like. You know how to have the MC at the funeral? Like, the one that's doing the entire. That's Peach at mine, bro. Because it's gonna be real quick, real short. Get right to the party after that. That's how I want it.

[Ryan]

Real, y', all. With this party. Y' all do know that it's selfish to expect us to party when you die. Like, that's. That's selfish, too.

[Rory]

Cry when I die.

[Ryan]

It's selfish either way. Like, you can't tell it.

[Mall]

You can't tell people how to grieve ourselves.

[Ryan]

You're dead. Like, it doesn't matter what you want. You're dead.

[Mall]

Oh, no. I mean, I. I agree that, like, there's only so much you can. You'll be dead. People are going to do whatever they want to do. But I'm trying to make it easier for everybody.

[Ryan]

That's not easier for everybody. That's an unnat. Like, crying and stuff is natural. You want us to instead party. It's. That's unnatural.

[Mall]

You want to call the repass.

[Ryan]

Yeah, that's the repass. That's. You said party at the. You said, I don't want a funeral. I just want.

[Mall]

I. I rest in peace to. To my good, good friend DJ Clark Kent. I had a blast at his repast.

[Ryan]

Yes. He also had a funeral for sure.

[Mall]

And I cried at the funeral.

[Ryan]

You said that you don't want a funeral. You just want the party. Yeah. So there's a balance between the repass. And the people have cried their eyes out. Now they can go party. You want us to just straight party?

[Mall]

I. I thought I would get some credit for that. Like, thanks, Rory, for not being selfish. Where we all have to sit here and speak about you. We could just go celebrate your life.

[Ryan]

Yeah, okay.

[Rory]

Baby D, don't worry, I'll cry at your funeral.

[Ryan]

Oh, I would never sit up there and say, oh, I want, I don't want y' all to cry for me. I want y' all to party. Now you better be on bended knee.

[Rory]

You want me to act a fool?

[Ryan]

Throw yourself in the casket. If you really love me, nigga, get

[Rory]

in there with you.

[Ryan]

Yeah, climb in there with me.

[Rory]

Get in there with you. I get in there with you, baby

[Ryan]

D. Be gentle though, cuz. You know, my head is just sewn out of my neck. Like, it ain't. It's just.

[Rory]

Who told you your head was sewn on your neck?

[Ryan]

Ain't that how they don't they gotta

[Rory]

perform like told you that?

[Ryan]

No, because after the thing where they cut you open and like see what you died from, you think they cut

[Rory]

your head off your body?

[Mall]

Yes.

[Rory]

They do not do that.

[Mall]

I've never performed autopsy. I have no idea. I'm not gonna sit here and pretend like I know anything about autopsies, law and order.

[Ryan]

They don't. When they perform.

[Mall]

Someone severed the head off.

[Rory]

The head was already off when they.

[Mall]

And they had to put it back on.

[Rory]

Damaris. They do not cut your head off if you die of natural causes. Your autopsy, they are not just cutting your head off.

[Mall]

I'm sure if you some type of like throat cancer or something, they would start to check what's going on there. But I don't think they stab your head off and hold it up like this.

[Rory]

There's nothing to check for. If you die from throat cancer, they know why you died. They want to cut your head off the way you don't.

[Mall]

Don't they have to like take out organs? Again, I'm not going to tell. Like, I know about cut your chest

[Rory]

from like your chest cavity and open up your chest and your, your, your abdominal abdomen.

[Ryan]

But if anything happens like brain wise or anything, they gotta like cut your bra. Well, they don't cut you at your neck. They probably cut the scalp off, right, to check out your brain.

[Rory]

Yeah, but if you die from something, well, if you suddenly, obviously, God forbid, if you just drop dead, then yes, they'll perform an autopsy to see what happened. But they don't cut your head off. They can, like, cut your skull, like, open up your skull without cutting your. Detaching your head from your body is what I'm saying. Your head will stay intact.

[Mall]

It's modern technology.

[Rory]

Yeah, like your head. Your head will stay. You're not Frankenstein. Like, you're not the Bride of Frankenstein, maybe. Don't they cut your head off? That's fucking crazy.

[Mall]

I've always said I want to be cremated, but I strangely have one other request that could be kind of funny. Like donating my body to, like, nyu. So, like, hungover doctorate students can just. Just around with you. Could be kind of funny.

[Rory]

Yeah. No, I don't want that. Don't touch me.

[Mall]

No, you don't want hungover students.

[Rory]

No, don't touch my.

[Mall]

To learn the science.

[Ryan]

I'm donating my whole body to science.

[Rory]

Okay.

[Mall]

What you think they'll figure out and

[Ryan]

whatever they don't want, just cremate.

[Rory]

Do you have. Are you an organ donor in your life?

[Ryan]

I am an organ donor. You black people have this theory that if you're an organ donor, they don't work as hard in the hospital to save your life.

[Rory]

So you still decided to check Organ donor.

[Ryan]

My best friend died from. She needed a kidney transplant. So. Yeah.

[Mall]

Would you give Dimitri kidney if you guys were a match?

[Rory]

Hell yeah.

[Ryan]

Mom would not give me his kidney.

[Rory]

My kidney. Good. I don't.

[Ryan]

Mom wouldn't give me Drake tickets. You think he gonna give me a kidney?

[Mall]

That's true. Yeah.

[Rory]

Nah, but it's different. Drake tickets is different.

[Ryan]

Oh, how are they different?

[Mall]

You still haven't gotten on Instagram.

[Ryan]

I got them. Somebody else bought them for me. Every bad bitch on Instagram got Drake tickets that year.

[Mall]

Well, that person should give. Eat the kidney.

[Rory]

Well, they got rid of their kidneys when they got a bbl, so.

[Mall]

Is that how it works?

[Ryan]

No.

[Mall]

They yank your rib and your kidney

[Rory]

up and the kidney.

[Ryan]

I promise. I promise you.

[Mall]

Just. Just a whole stash house of BBL kidneys just sitting in a warehouse somewhere.

[Rory]

Shout out to Bernice Burgos. She says she's. No, no, no. She says she's getting rid of her bbl.

[Mall]

She's reducing. I believe she's getting reduction.

[Rory]

Yes. Yeah, she's reducing her. Her bbl. She said, you know, as she gets older, complications, I think, and things like

[Ryan]

that grandmother with all that ass.

[Rory]

She looks great, though.

[Mall]

She still looks gorgeous.

[Ryan]

Drop that gorgeous girl.

[Rory]

She had great work done.

[Mall]

But, I mean, I. I did see a lot of girls that. That went crazy with the bbls and, like, the 2011 12s get reductions when it stopped being as popular. Yeah, like, they're just really trying to keep up. The way we've changed from skinny jeans to baggy is like, the way chicks are dealing with their butts right now. No, the new thing, the crazy bbl, is not in fashion anymore.

[Rory]

Yeah, they don't even. They don't push that no more. It's the gym girlies now.

[Mall]

True.

[Rory]

That's what's hot. Girls that's in the gym shout out to Tiana. Tiana started that wave, though, with her faded video. Was that faded?

[Mall]

But Tiana has a. I mean, it's respectfully a one of one body that, I don't know, can really be attacked.

[Rory]

I don't even think Tiana without.

[Mall]

Without. Jesus Christ.

[Rory]

Yeah. I don't even think Tiana works out. That's the crazy part. Tiana has had that shape since she was, like, 16 years old.

[Mall]

I just think that's something that's given to you by. By a higher power. Yeah. You can't work to get that.

[Rory]

No, can't work.

[Mall]

The doctor can't do that. Nothing.

[Rory]

Shout out to Michael B. Jordan. He won Best Actor, right? Did he win at the SAG Awards? At the SAG Awards? I think he won act of the Year.

[Mall]

Was this the same. Same one as the Tourette Awards?

[Ryan]

No.

[Mall]

Oh, he's just been cleaning up.

[Rory]

Awards.

[Mall]

Did that gentleman stay home at the SAG Awards?

[Ryan]

No, this is the. The act. SAG After Awards.

[Rory]

SAG AFTRA Awards. He won. Was it. It was an Actor of the Year.

[Ryan]

Yes. Outstanding.

[Rory]

Outstanding performance by a male actor in a leading role for his dual performance as twin brothers and sinners. So if he didn't win with, like, was he nominated twice? Since it was two roles.

[Mall]

I see what you.

[Ryan]

Yeah, he should have been. Right. But no, so.

[Rory]

Oh, Mike, I see what you did. You rigged the system. They had to nominate you twice. Like one of y' all was gonna win. Yeah. Whether it was Smoke. Was it Smoking Stack? That was the name.

[Ryan]

Smoking Stack.

[Rory]

Smoking Stack.

[Mall]

Lindsay Lohan walks so Michael B. Jordan could run.

[Rory]

Yeah, man, but shout out to Michael B. Jordan. I think he.

[Ryan]

Y' all playing an Eddie Murphy face.

[Mall]

Well, you're right.

[Ryan]

Thank you.

[Rory]

Welcome to America.

[Ryan]

Coming to America, the Clumps, which.

[Rory]

But coming to America came before the Clumps.

[Mall]

I know, but I'm saying Arsenio played every role in that movie.

[Ryan]

Yeah. What I'm saying is the Clumps is I think he played the most characters he ever played. I think that any actors Ever played. Because I think there was around seven in the clumps.

[Rory]

I've seen the whole play, like six and Nutty Professor.

[Ryan]

Sorry.

[Rory]

Yeah, I've seen a whole play like six in. I think coming six or seven to come into America.

[Mall]

I think he was every character in the barbershop.

[Rory]

Arsenio Hall.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Rory]

No, he was. He was one character in the barbershop.

[Mall]

He was the barber and he was him. Well, not himself, but.

[Rory]

No, Eddie Murphy was two characters in the barbershop. He was a Jewish guy and the barber. Arsenio hall was just a barber.

[Mall]

Okay. Yeah. Eddie being the Jewish guy was crazy.

[Rory]

I just saw a video and I said every morning he had to sit and make up for like four hours. It looks like transform into that. But that was like iconic back then because, you know, a lot of people didn't know that was Eddie for years.

[Ryan]

Yeah, I didn't.

[Mall]

Oh, no, I didn't. I didn't know probably till sort of recently, like within the last 10 years. I knew.

[Rory]

Yeah, like a lot of people. People didn't know for years that that was Eddie Murphy. And that was in the. Coming to America was the 80s, right? Yeah, that was in the 80s, late 80s. So to have makeup done to where they don't. Can't even tell it's you in the 80s, incredible job.

[Mall]

I mean, now it would be considered anti Semitic because he looked like a propaganda poster, but.

[Rory]

Exactly.

[Mall]

Neither here nor there. Right. But the funniest story from coming to America, BTS to me, was that Arsenio and Eddie, after they would shoot, would just go to the club, still dressed the same way. Like they would show up as princes in the club in New York City. That seems so joking though. I was gonna say that 100%.

[Rory]

I would definitely do that. Like, yo, fuck it, I'm out. Leave it to set. Whatever I got on this big ass

[Mall]

cape is staying on there.

[Rory]

Going to the club, absolutely. But shout out to Michael B. Jordan. He definitely deserved that sentence. It was a great movie and I loved everything that they're gearing. Michael B. Jordan. He's definitely like. You could tell they giving him up to be the next one in Hollywood. The next best black male actor in Hollywood.

[Mall]

Well, well deserved. Before we get to new music Friday because there's a lot coming out as you're hearing this. I do want to press mall because Twitter told me so I know it's a fact. Elon would never lie to me. There wasn't. There wasn't a community note. It said that Jay Z is Dropping an album on April 3rd featuring Beyonce, Travis Scott, and I think somebody else.

[Rory]

Okay, no, like, I don't know shit.

[Mall]

All right, well, blink, blink twice.

[Ryan]

No, no, no, no, no. This. How. No more lying. You see what I'm saying? Because I keep up with any other time we've asked you anything about Jay, you be like, man, Jay not rapping, Jay not releasing an album.

[Mall]

He be so sure.

[Ryan]

He be so, so sure. Now it's, I don't know nothing. I don't know nothing. You don't never know. But still speak on it.

[Rory]

I'm just, I'm speaking on it. I don't know. I don't know if he's dropping an album on April 3rd.

[Ryan]

You don't know. You don't know if he's dropping an album on April 3rd. So is he dropping an album period?

[Rory]

I don't know.

[Ryan]

Is there an album?

[Rory]

I mean, he is the great. One of the greatest recording artists that we've had. So I'm pretty sure he has access to a studio at some point.

[Mall]

Did DEZ give you this speech and

[Rory]

if he finds inspiration somewhere, maybe, you know, maybe if it's a beat laying around.

[Mall]

Just laying around, right?

[Rory]

Yeah, maybe. I'm sure he has an email, right? He has beat packs in his email. Maybe he found some inspiration and decided to record something. I don't know for sure, but it's not far fetched.

[Mall]

I feel like we, we need to like, put an air tag on, on Guru's, like, laptop case or something and just see if he's in around the studio.

[Rory]

Well, Guru's always around.

[Mall]

I know, but there's certain studios that'd be like, oh, no, that's what. That's with Jay.

[Rory]

No, you got it wrong. You got to put an air tag in Jay's dreads. That's how you know when he's in the studio.

[Mall]

When do you think I would have the time or opportunity to put an air tag?

[Ryan]

Opportunity. Audacity. I don't know, but opportunity has.

[Mall]

That's a different level of audaz I get. Yes, I've had an opportunity to put an air tag in Jay Z's dreads. Yes, I've had an opportunity.

[Rory]

Never had an opportunity to put.

[Mall]

No, no, like, like I was in the same. I could have. I would have then been met with hands and feet.

[Rory]

Yeah, yeah.

[Mall]

And possibly thrown in a truck.

[Rory]

They would have knocked the air tag out of you, like a little.

[Mall]

They would have put me in a barrel, threw me in the ocean with the air tag.

[Rory]

You wouldn't even know you had an air tag inside you. Like, where did that come from? Start knocking all the out of you.

[Mall]

Yeah, but I mean, this was Twitter. No disrespect to this account. I don't know how valid they are. I think it's a Travis Scott like stand page. But I did see a lot of people talking about a rumor. Not so much with a reasonable doubt anniversary shows or anything, but also an album before June. I'm on the side that I believe it.

[Ryan]

If I get a J and J. Cole album in one year, I know that, like, this might be the year I forgot. Now if I knock his head off his head. I'm wrong, right?

[Rory]

I did. I forgot. I forgot cold, but I'm out. We get so much music every week. Like it's.

[Mall]

I'm still listening to that one. Still pretty often.

[Rory]

To what?

[Mall]

To J. Cole, the first disc.

[Rory]

Okay. Pretty often.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Okay.

[Ryan]

He won't give the second disc a chance. I told him no.

[Mall]

I've given it a few more. It's again, I still have my same critiques. I just don't like those certain hooks. But like, I still love Cole rapping over the realness. Like, I'm never mad at that. I just didn't like the. Even the let out is growing on me.

[Ryan]

The let out has grown on me. The lettuce growing.

[Mall]

I still laugh when I hear it. I just don't skip it.

[Ryan]

Has the let out grown on you?

[Rory]

No, not at all. I never want to sing will I survive the let out? I don't want to chant Will I survive the let out. I'm just never good raps. But I hate the hook.

[Mall]

Do we think because I. I agree with. With Mall that it's going to take something very specific to inspire Jay at this point in his career to rap. Because even 444 was what 2016 definitely had a reason to rap with lemonade and everything that was going on in his personal life. Then obviously inspired to do an album with your wife, which is great. Doing one with Jay electronica inspired to be around him. What. What would inspire him now to do a solo project? And how many even. How many records would we even get?

[Ryan]

We might get seven.

[Mall]

I. I can't see anything past 10. I think it's even crazy for 10.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mall]

I just don't know what I think it is. It is it maybe him getting to the point in his career and this is just the Internet, not the real world. But the Internet has become somewhat of a real world. He's Starting to get that Eminem shift.

[Rory]

What do you mean?

[Mall]

That he doesn't deserve. Everyone went from saying, eminem is. Is. Is the greatest. One of the greatest rappers of all time. His discography is incredible. And there was a turn, and myself, I. I was included in that. But that was more so because M was so active and kept putting out music that I personally didn't like.

[Rory]

Right.

[Mall]

Didn't take away from his ability or anything, but he was putting out an album every year. Jay has been inactive, and now all of a sudden, the tides have turned where he's not as good as he's ever been. His catalog's overrated. He's a scumbag. Like, all the.

[Rory]

That's what people are saying about it.

[Ryan]

Yeah. But none of that is coming from J fans. Like, with Eminem, even Eminem's fans switched up on him because his music didn't age well.

[Mall]

Yeah. Because I was an Eminem fan.

[Ryan]

Yeah.

[Mall]

And then slowly, that's not.

[Ryan]

It's not J fans doing that. It's not New York doing that. It's because the people who are critiquing music are young, and they're getting older and young and louder. And a lot of them are young and not from New York. They from the South. And that has always been kind of a pocket of the south thing where they say that Jay Z's overrated. That's always been a thing ever since even when I was growing up. So I think that's completely different. Eminem's music just has not aged well, and y' all turned on him. I think this is a completely different crew.

[Mall]

But I. I think Jay, in his latter part of his career, a lot of what did inspire him was to talk about what he was doing in business and what he was doing outside of music. And I think he's been heavily critiqued on that. Like, the music thing is whatever. I think that's an Internet thing. But there is still Jay Z fans that I feel have a different perspective of how he's moved, whether it be with the super bowl stuff, what he's been doing with the casinos. Like, I do think Jay has a lot of stuff to address. And I could see somebody that feels like they're doing the right thing for the community, for everyone else, and for themselves to line their pockets. Why the fuck not? Yeah. I'd get pissed off, be like, you know what? Let me rap and explain myself, because y' all are bugging this new perception of me. I'm not saying in a sensitive way. I'm Saying in a flexing way, the way Jay has always taken things that people may not be sensitive about, and he privately could be sensitive about them, but has a beautiful way of bragging about them instead of.

[Rory]

I just don't. I don't know if Jay is there. He really doesn't care about that enough to want to go and make music based on that, based on responding to things that he's either seen or heard people say about him. Like, that's not, like, even. Look at it like, 444. We know why that album happened, right? The J Elect album. We know why that album. That's one of his favorite rappers. Like, he does things. It's not to respond to, you know, noise. That's not what Jay. He doesn't create from that. So if Jay is creating new music now and he's recording new music now, it's attached to something. It's not just, oh, nah, they talking crazy about me online, and they must have forgot who I am. And that's not. Jay is not. That's not his. That doesn't motivate him. He's always been done a great job at, you know, sidestepping bullshit and avoiding that type of thing. But you're right. When he does decide to rap, it's always, you know, those little nuances in there where he's reminding people, like, don't get it fucked up. Like, y' all know where I sit among all of this shit. But today, now, after almost. When did the JLUG album come out?

[Mall]

20, 26 years.

[Rory]

I just don't see that. If he is creating music, it's definitely attached to something personal, something bigger, something, you know, that's a part of, you know, the family. It's something in that. It's not because, you know, just online talking and what people on podcasts and platforms are saying about him. It's none of that. Like, he's not. That's not who he is. He doesn't entertain that type of shit, and he doesn't create from that energy.

[Mall]

I hear you. I'm gonna give some pushback there, because I do feel like on every album, Jay has always kind of replied instead of doing direct interviews and doing the whole, he'll sit with Angie, but he won't do a full, like, press run. He'll do the Breakfast Club when it's at its peak. And he's always replied to everything in his rhymes, even with the Jay electronica written testimony on the album. He replies to everything that was said about the NFL. He said, I Got more money than a whole NFL bench. Why would I sell out? I would attack it if they could have handled the ship themselves. Like, he. He has a whole verse addressing everyone that was hating on him at the beginning when that was announced. Now it's been six, seven years, and it's gotten a lot of flack of. Of what is really happening outside of end racism in the end zone. So, yeah, I can see Jay still having that competitive, like, yo, what the fuck? Mentality. And I think he's probably learned a lot with this casino bidding. And that's a whole different monster outside of music, clothing, alcohol, different world. It's a completely different word. Now we're getting into politics. Now it's about. He's already in politics for sure, but, like, really greasing politicians behind the scenes to get bids and, like, it's a. It's a different monster when you're dealing with casinos in Times Square.

[Rory]

Right.

[Mall]

I think that with the brain that he has, could inspire you to make music and still have a chip on your shoulder of, like, I gave y' all 20 years, and this is how I'm being treated right now. Yeah, this is crazy.

[Rory]

I'm just. You know what it is, though? Just selfishly, I kind of don't ever want Jay to put music out again.

[Mall]

You said that. And I'm always on the other side because I just.

[Rory]

It's like, you know, even though selfishly, like, you know, I would love to hear him still create and rap because I know he's still in shape, but it's just like, you know, create the album for what? For, you know, this new generation to be online within 15 minutes of the album dropping, saying, this is y' all goat. This shit is trash. You know what I mean? Like, it's like. It's just that part of it where I just don't care. I'm just like, no, let's let his legacy stay where it is. Nobody, no other rapper, just full MC rapper, is touching what Jay has done.

[Mall]

But we both know Jay actively, actively, actively pays attention to everything currently going on. Like, overshoot. Like when everyone was. Like, when Flex, no pun intended, dropped the bomb that Jay Z is a secret burner. Like, is that that crazy to think that Jay Z has a Twitter and Instagram, right, that no one knows about, that he just scrolls on. He actively is signing young, young artists at Roc Nation, being part of their projects, putting like, he's active. He knows what the fuck is going online. I can't think with a Jay Z brain. You wouldn't still have a bunch to say as the elder statesman about everything that's currently going on. Because even down, we even see. Professor Michael Eric Dyson said that Jay called him about his take between the Kendrick and Drake thing. Everyone thought that was insane. I was like, I mean, I'm an outsider and even I know that hov calls everyone not to confront them or press. Like, he's just as interested in the shit the way we are, just to have more the way we debate about URL. Jay Z does the same thing. Him and Emory talk about URL. Like. Yeah, I don't think it's that crazy. So I think he has a lot of opinions of what is currently going on, which could give you 10 records.

[Rory]

Oh, no. For sure.

[Mall]

Plus, I got three kids. Blue is a teenager now. Like, there's a lot to talk about.

[Rory]

Oh, no, it's definitely a lot to talk about. I just don't know if, you know, he's creating seven to 10 to 12 tracks.

[Mall]

Yeah, that's.

[Rory]

That's all.

[Mall]

That's a lot.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mall]

10 records, when you have that much going on is, I think, harder.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mall]

Than I think people could realize.

[Rory]

But I mean, selfishly, as, you know, just somebody that is. Grew up in that era and, you know, was. Was so close to that, to the music. Yeah. I want to hear. I want to hear him. You know, it's just like watching your favorite, you know, artists just still, like, spar and just show you that they still. Oh, shock.

[Mall]

Yeah. Just don't give. Please just don't give me the 30th anniversary. Don't give me reasonable doubted, like. Like, I don't want, like, reasonably.

[Rory]

Like, I don't reasonably doubt it.

[Mall]

I don't want that. I want it to be a whole separate thing that just happens to fall on the 30th anniversary. Like. Yeah. I do not want the part to. I hate that. That so much.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mall]

So. But we'll see. How did you feel about the uproar of Jay Z calling Michael Eric Dyson?

[Rory]

What was the uproar? I didn't see that.

[Mall]

Well, he. He was talking with Stephen A. Smith, and we, again, we don't have to fully get into this battle.

[Rory]

Jay was talking to Stephen A.

[Mall]

No, Michael. Michael Eric Dyson was talking to him. He's been very. I wouldn't say pro Drake, but very much on the side of questioning. Drake's blackness is an issue for the community overall. Calling him a culture vulture is a problem for the community overall. Doubting anything that Drake has done also Crossing the line with pedophile because it's the Internet now. He's. I understand rap battles, but with social media, calling someone that in this era is a little bit more dangerous than it was on mixtapes when you were just rapping about whatever. So he said that with Stephen A. Smith. Then he was doing an interview. Ryan, if you could look it up. I forgot who he was sitting with, but he had said that, you know, Jay calls him often and Jay gave him a call and. And said he was wrong more or

[Rory]

less that Michael Eric Dyson was wrong about his point of view on the Drake Kendrick battle. Okay.

[Mall]

And he didn't give any details. That's why this is a hard conversation to have because you're completely speculating on what Jay said to him. All he said was he disagreed with this point and very respectfully and eloquently said his piece on the entire thing, but didn't give any. I don't even know what Jay said. All I know is he disagree. I don't know the little details. He disagrees. I don't know anything. But there was a huge uproar that he was doing this to backdoor Drake. Like Michael Eric Dyson is now going to control. Like I. The Internet was Internet. But I mean, I'm curious what you think because you're part of. Of both families. Like I feel like you're you. You're the Farrakhan in this situation of where. Of who could solve these two. These two. Two back and forths of.

[Rory]

Between Eric Dyson and Jay.

[Mall]

Jay and Drake between.

[Rory]

But there's no back and forth though. Like I don't. This why. I don't know why people think there's a back and forth between Jay and Drake. Like Drake has never publicly said anything to Jay or directed at Jay or in the music said anything directed at Jay.

[Mall]

Well, I've always thought 30 for 30 freestyle was about it. They definitely had some. Some back and forth. Even on the. The J Lek, Jay Z, the Soulja Boy, the We made it beat. Sorry, Miss Drizzy. I'm talking about paintings. Like that whole shit. They've had their little shots back and forth, but they made music afterwards.

[Rory]

It's not a shot, though.

[Mall]

Call me Ms. Drizzy is a little bit of a tiny shot and I think Drake deserved it. I think it was. I think people speak freely and when you print something that wasn't supposed to be printed and you can't even hear the tone in it, it's unfair. But what was printed Jay had Every right to shoot back a Drake.

[Rory]

Yeah, but I don't think that again, I think that sometimes we misinterpret lines and bars from artists. We've actually seen that happen where artists actually speak about the bars that they've written and recorded when they say like people took it out of context. And I think a lot of times, because Jay is very direct, if he's gonna go at somebody, he says, sorry,

[Mall]

Miss Drizzy, for all the, for so much art, talk silly me, rap about all the shit that I bought. I mean it's not, it wasn't like warranted a dis record back, but they've been throwing little shots. I think 30 for 30 freestyle was about him. We've always agreed to disagree about, but conspiring a bit with Meek during that time.

[Rory]

Here's my thing. Jay wouldn't call Drake Ms. Drizzy. He wouldn't refer to Drake as mister.

[Mall]

That was, that was always the debate whether he said Mr. Drizzy or Mr. Z. If you listen to it, it's very hard to say.

[Rory]

Let me, let me, let me assure you something. Jay would never refer to Drake as Miss Drizzy. He would not do that. He wouldn't do that. That's not his.

[Mall]

I mean that quote was kind of nuts. Ryan, can you pull up the quote of what Drake had said about Jay? Again? Drake had said, yo, I'd never told anyone to print that. Like that was completely taken. I think Drake was fucking around, joking. But when you just read it, it sounds kind of nuts.

[Rory]

Yeah, but they've never again. I think that's something that the Internet.

[Mall]

They made three songs after that shit happened.

[Rory]

Yeah, like that's what I'm saying. That's something that the Internet just created and tried to put some, some credence too. But there is no back and forth between Jay and Drake now. Whether privately they feel away about each other, that's a whole different thing.

[Mall]

I think they probably have some.

[Rory]

Whatever that is interesting feelings. We don't know that. But I'm just saying publicly there is no back and forth between Jay and Drake. If Jay and Drake had an issue with each other, it would be clear we wouldn't have to speculate and dissect, you know, bars and think, oh, who is he talking? It would be very direct, very blatant from two of the best rappers that we've ever had. Like they know exactly how to direct lines and shit at each other.

[Mall]

But you do agree they've thrown small jabs at each other. I want to get jabs in rap

[Rory]

is always gonna play.

[Mall]

That's 30 freestyle. Again, I think that that first eight bars are all about ho. I don't think they're about meek. Like, which I thought Drake handled that very well. Like. Okay, I see what y' all trying to do over here now. I know there's a separation now. Now I get it.

[Rory]

Yeah, but, but, but again I don't think that, you know, we've got. It's not much to that though. I think that's more the Internet just trying to do what the Internet does

[Mall]

so we can get off anything Drake, Kendrick related. Can you speculate quickly what you think

[Rory]

Jay may have said about Michael Eric Dyson's take on it? I think he may have said that Michael Eric Dyson probably looked too deep into it. I don't think it was as deep as he was probably trying to make it out to seem. I think it was more similar thoughts surfaced more. You know, it wasn't, I think. Cause Michael Eric Dyson is, you know, he's a thinker, he's brilliant, you know what I'm saying? But I just don't. It was probably that. It was probably like I don't think it was that deep of a thought. Or it could be the opposite or he could just be like nah, you know, whatever Kendrick said wasn't wrong if he felt that way. Like, you know, he's free to express that. It could have, could have went either way. But I just don't. It wasn't nothing malicious. Like no. Oh nah. Like, you know, like he was supposed to say that about Drake. Like I don't. It wasn't nothing like that.

[Mall]

I think he was debating the way we all call our friends after a battle. I personally, I really think he said there's no real rules to a rap battle. You're overthinking. The Kendrick can say that. That's, that's something along those lines.

[Rory]

Like probably.

[Mall]

Yeah, I know you did a thousand word op ed about the entire thing, but sometimes it ain't that and it's just a rap battle.

[Rory]

Yeah, sometimes it's just not that it's not as deep as people think it is.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Rory]

So yeah, I'm on that side.

[Mall]

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[Mall]

All right, so while we're on Music New Music Friday, all of this is out right now. We have not heard it obviously because we're recording on a Thursday day. There is a rumor that we're getting a 50 cent record. I do not believe that, but that was on 50 raps. That was on reputable DSP.

[Rory]

I said y' all wanted 50 to rap, right?

[Mall]

Well, he said he was going to do the dock and I don't think he can turn that dock around that quickly. But I don't think it's a dis

[Ryan]

if 50 Cent is dropping a song. It's just a 50 Cent song.

[Mall]

Oh, I. If 50 is dropping music and he's not dissing ti I don't want to hear it.

[Ryan]

Oh, I thought y' all said, when are we going to be done with this? Now y' all want to hear it.

[Rory]

If it's a dissipation, I don't want to hear. I don't want to hear them rap, Eddie. I don't, I don't.

[Mall]

50 was active and, like, constantly putting music out. All right, cool, whatever. But now you decide to rap, and it's not about TI you can miss me on that.

[Rory]

So they're saying they think a documentary is coming.

[Mall]

Well, 50 straight up said that there's one containing the allegations against Tiny and TI Was with certain sexual abuse, sexual misconduct, alleged charges, which, I mean, has been in the news for forever. It's not like he exposed something that people didn't know about. But yes, he claims he's doing a doc about that entire thing.

[Rory]

50 going, he gonna respond in his way, ain't he? He gonna be like, listen, everything I was gonna say was in this documentary.

[Mall]

It just didn't rhyme.

[Rory]

Yeah, you can't be listening. I know. People like, oh, 50 gotta get in the booth. What if he don't rap no more? Like, I'm not going. Like, if somebody call out Michael Jordan right now, he's supposed to play them. Yeah, one on one. It's like, nigga, I don't hoop no more. Like, I'm over here winning NASCAR circuits and shit. Like, I'm over here getting a billion dollars a year sneaker sales. Like, I'm not about to get on the court with LeBron and play one on one. Like, I'm not doing that for what? To me, it makes sense.

[Mall]

I, I think when everyone hears this, there's nothing from 50 that happens today. No, that's just my prediction. I, I, I could be completely wrong. But my, my guess is no, that there will be nothing. Saha did put out a trailer of, like, some of the footage from Mad Square Garden when Saint Pablo came out to tease the record. The Good Music breakup. This is my side. And obviously the last two records in high rhyming shape. So I'm curious to hear this side of the entire thing, because between the drink champs interviews, Kanye, like, it was an unfair. I felt how he spoke about Big Sean was really unfair. We got the. I'm not going to diagnose anyone, but we got the Asberger Kanye through that entire thing of the self awareness was not all the way there, when he was talking with Nori, he was having fun. He was making jokes on Drink champs. On Drink champs. A few times. He's talked about. He's. He's even dissah on Donda Life of the Party, which the record never made, but he dissed high on that. I'm curious of Saha's perspective of this entire thing we got. We kind of got. Sean is just a classy person, so we didn't get probably some of the mess that we. We could have gotten. I don't think Saha really gives a fuck about Kanye. No, not that.

[Ryan]

About keeping it classic.

[Mall]

Keeping it. Let's keep everything in the family. I think think Sean. I've met Sean's mother. She's a lovely woman. He was just. I think he was just raised to hold shit down. Even when he was disrespected, he said his piece and kind of just kept it moving and focused on his own self, focused on his own piece. I think SI High is not out here for blood, but SCI High does not give a fuck if the whole world knows the story.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mall]

And I see. I. I see both of those type of people. I've been both of those people. I've been on the P side. I've also been on. I don't really give a fuck.

[Rory]

But I want to hear Saha talk about this, though.

[Mall]

So do I.

[Rory]

Cause he has a perspective that I don't think any of us obviously have and probably even have any idea about. And he has a way with words. Right. So we know he's going the way he's. The way he's gonna say it is gonna be entertaining but also informative. So, yeah, I'm always down here. Saha. I'm just happy that Saha is rapping. I'm happy that he's putting out music. I know y' all feel away about the cold thing, but even that I like. It's just like you said, it's just rap. Like, I'm not. It's not a malicious thing or, you know, nothing like that. And obviously, what Cole said on False Prophets, he still remembered that and felt the way about that. But it's just good that a rapper like Saha, who, again, we hate that he doesn't put out music as much as he probably should or as much as we would want him to, because he's a phenomenal emcee and a great artist. But just to see him recording, putting music out in that rhythm, I'm here for that.

[Mall]

Yeah. And I mean of course, while they're listening to this, they probably already heard the Saha record at Midnight. But he has a different perspective than I think anyone at Good Music. Of course Sean has wrote for Kanye. Everyone has written for Kanye. That was on Good Music. But I don't think anyone has written as much as Sahai was like his right hand when it came. He's been in. He's locked in the studio.

[Rory]

It's a great right hand.

[Mall]

Like he's there every day. He's seen every up and down personal

[Rory]

thing, every double entendre. Right hand. Right hand.

[Ryan]

Ooh, that boy pin cold, ain't it?

[Mall]

I was just. Because I text Saha.

[Rory]

Right hand. Right.

[Ryan]

That's why you my right hand.

[Rory]

Because I Right. Because I text Saha, I was able to come up with that.

[Mall]

It rubs off when you text someone of that pen level.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mall]

So yeah. As much as Sean. Yes. Has been in so many sessions with ye written a lot of stuff, I don't think anyone has probably spent as much personal time locked in a studio with Kanye the way Psy has.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mall]

Consequence maybe would be a close one as well. But even Khan's wasn't fully signed to Good Music. He's been si has been an artist signed to him.

[Rory]

Yep.

[Mall]

And Ben his writer. So I think you get all the tea, for lack of a better term with this one.

[Rory]

I just hate that we record him before it come out. Cause I know it's some shit on there. I know he talking some shit.

[Ryan]

But I like that we get to come in on Monday and same we've had the whole weekend to listen.

[Rory]

Yeah. I don't mind not being the first to react. I want to react to the truth, as close to the truth as possible. So if a song comes out and you know what I'm saying, I'd rather us have the weekend to live with it and kind of just really, you know, take it in and listen to it as opposed to it dropping. And then an hour later we're sitting on the mic like, yo, that shit is trash. It's like, come on.

[Ryan]

Everybody just races to be the first one to have a clip out about something. And I get it. That's the content world. But you haven't even really had a chance to listen.

[Mall]

Yeah, with music it's tough. I like a song, I get it. A full.

[Rory]

I don't want to be first project.

[Mall]

The side thing is, I think.

[Ryan]

Right.

[Mall]

The side street I think is going to have a lot of gossip in there. And I don't mean that in A bad way. So I think that. That. Yeah, I think all the streamers at Midnight are going to be sitting there dissecting that entire thing because it's gonna be a lot of gossip. A lot of gossip. It's just one song, but, like, full projects. No, I like that we wait till Monday for that. Before we get off music, I just want to highlight the music that's out now of what I'm personally looking forward to.

[Rory]

Pemi dropping a song or album is dropping a project. Oh, man.

[Mall]

Don't come home.

[Rory]

Yeah, but too.

[Mall]

Listen, there's a little.

[Rory]

Hold on, hold on, hold on.

[Mall]

I'm so excited for Midnight, bro.

[Rory]

Between Yebba and Pimmy, who has the better interludes on Drake's albums? You said that too fast. I don't like that.

[Mall]

The Pimmy joint wasn't. It was called an interlude. Was it an interlude? That was a full record. Yep. Yeah, but his heartbreak is really an interlude. Yeah, that's really an interlude.

[Ryan]

Pimmy song. That's a song.

[Mall]

But you got. And I with Pimmy's one of the artists that I'm really excited for. Yeba, to me, is like, one of the best vocalists.

[Rory]

Like.

[Mall]

Yeah, but is. Yeah, but she's been around.

[Rory]

Like, these are albums.

[Mall]

Yes, these. These are projects, the ones that we

[Rory]

get a lot of.

[Mall]

Now I am at the edge of my seat. I almost texted y' all at midnight when I saw that. They teased it, but I knew y' all would just clown me. I cannot believe a Gnarles Barkley album coming out at midnight.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mall]

Danger Mouse and CeeLo are putting. How long has it been?

[Rory]

Over 50, what, maybe 20 years.

[Mall]

Yeah. I was in summer school when Crazy came out.

[Rory]

Fam. Me and Biggs went to these. That's when they was doing the concerts in Central park, the free concerts, and Nas Barkley did one. When I tell you we was in Central Park High out of our minds. I would have loved grooving to Nas Barkley in the middle of Central Park. Like, I will never forget that. So to know that we getting a new Nas Barkley album.

[Mall]

Yeah. I mean, I can't even start to say, like, what St. Elsewhere, like, did to my life. Like, it shaped a lot of the way I talk about nerd as well, how that shaped how I listen to music. St. Elsewhere was that for me in high school as well. Like, I'm. I'm not just boom bapping my life away anymore.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mall]

Like, I cannot wait for Danger Mouths and ceelo to put a project out. And you know what? Here's my bias, guys. If it stinks, I'm coming in here and saying I love it.

[Caller]

That's.

[Rory]

I respect that.

[Mall]

I love CeeLo and Danger Mountain too much.

[Rory]

I respect that because at least you saying it. At least you saying you about to come in here and be biased. I respect that.

[Mall]

And I'm going in with very high expectations, which could make it worse.

[Rory]

Yeah, I respect. No, I 100% respect that, Rory.

[Mall]

But I am very much excited for. Yeah, but to give us a full project. It's also been a while. Pimmy again. One of my favorite new Shout Out

[Rory]

J Skis and Ill beats.

[Mall]

Yes.

[Rory]

J Ski Shout Out J Skis Tone Beats. The Good Part, Volume one. So you know how I feel about Skis. One of the dopest, dopest MCs.

[Mall]

Yes. Everyone, please look up J Skis, one of the best lyricists out right now. From Buff. We talked about him during the on the radar shit. Lareezy's one of my favorite new rappers as well. From New Orleans, Leader of the youth EP comes out. And then we have Ty$sign Girl Music, Volume 1. I love the single.

[Rory]

Did you know Ty gonna be on there talking crazy.

[Mall]

I love the single. And if you got Ant and Leon also working on it.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mall]

Ty owes us one, man.

[Ryan]

For sure.

[Rory]

The album, he just owes us one.

[Mall]

The featuring Todd Alison was a letdown for me. The title was so great since Free tc, which I hate saying this about an artist that I. I'm not guessing. I think Todd Alan is iconic. Like, I. I really, I really think he's one of the most important artists of. Of this generation by far.

[Rory]

Absolutely.

[Mall]

From the sound right to talent level, he's just gotta give us one. And I know this is just a nep.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mall]

But when it's time to give us that album, Free TC to me is a classic. My own personal classic. But after that, it's kind of been a mixed bag with projects. Even though he's delivered some of the best music in the last 15 years,

[Rory]

some of the best features with other artists.

[Mall]

Like yeah, even it's the the Vulture shit with Kanye is incredible. It was just bad timing and everyone pretended to hate it because they had to. But there's great music on there. Yeah, I just tie. I just want that proper Tie album the same way I wanted the proper Chris Brown album, the way people want the proper Drake rap album. I want the proper ty$sign r b o. And I hope him doing an EP means he's gearing up to get back in that Bag and stop writing and giving everyone else in the world all his amazing shit. Because if you go through all the records that people have from Ty Dollar Sign, they didn't ask Ty to get on it. Ty gave them that record and then they got on it.

[Rory]

So he got Brandy on his project, Leon Thomas and Ron Isley.

[Ryan]

That Ron, I mean, probably is. Probably is a sample, but. No.

[Rory]

What you mean sample? Nah, they get Ron in the studio.

[Ryan]

No, for sure.

[Mall]

But he's still out here.

[Ryan]

I don't want to get excited about it because it's an AI overview. So it could the same way that people thought Janet was on Cardi B's album. It could just be people.

[Rory]

That wasn't Ms. Jackson.

[Ryan]

No, no, baby.

[Rory]

Okay, my bad.

[Mall]

So, yeah, Girl Music, Volume 1. Obviously the single's out with Leon Thomas now. And then my guy Isaiah Falls has a record coming out, Taboo, which I'm looking forward to because I fuck with anything. Isaiah Falls.

[Rory]

Oh, yeah. It's gonna be. It's gonna be one of those weekends. Yeba Pimmy.

[Mall]

A lot of R and B. Yeah, man.

[Rory]

Girl music skis. I don't know if I'm listening to your project this weekend, man. I ain't gonna lie, man. It's too much R and B. I

[Mall]

gotta get through Gnarles Barkley.

[Rory]

Yeah, I might have to skis. I might have check you during the week, man. I ain't gonna lie.

[Mall]

And I left this up here. I don't know the gentleman's name, and I don't mean this with any disrespect, but I don't know if there's a tie here. Young Mall is putting out.

[Rory]

I want to let y' all know I kind of snuck mine.

[Mall]

You wrote that?

[Rory]

I kind of snuck mine.

[Mall]

I figured maybe it was your nephew, 10th birthday. Y' all recorded something?

[Rory]

Yeah, yeah, we laid some joints there. I kind of snuck my EP in there, man.

[Ryan]

Atlanta based rapper, singer and songwriter who blends rapid fire trap with street level lyrics.

[Mall]

Okay, who from the label wrote that?

[Rory]

Young mall. Okay.

[Ryan]

He's 26.

[Rory]

I'm check it out. See what he talking about on there.

[Mall]

I mean, that's when. That's when ho made Reasonable Doubt. So you got to think Young Mall. 26. Hov. 26. You know, this could be. This could be the one.

[Ryan]

I don't know if we ever shouted out Joyce Rice for Break Me in, but that's gonna be like one of my songs.

[Mall]

Oh, I thought we did already.

[Ryan]

I can't. No. I don't remember us mentioning It. I can't. Oh, yeah.

[Mall]

That record's incredible.

[Ryan]

I cannot stop playing it. It's amazing.

[Mall]

Yo, she had posted. Well, I'm not sure if, like, the context of that record and what me in.

[Rory]

I can only imagine what Joyce is. What you meant by bro.

[Mall]

It's more of a metaphor.

[Ryan]

I've been so wild lately baby need you to come and tame me Joyce dyed her hair.

[Rory]

She got like, the strawberry. Like the blonde going.

[Mall]

The honey blonde making some good orange.

[Rory]

Yeah, Joyce, what you doing in la, man?

[Mall]

It's funny. She posted because her pops came to the video set and her dad is rightfully so, so supportive of her career, which is beautiful to watch. She posted a text message from him and said, baby, I can't explain to my friends what this song is about.

[Rory]

Yeah, nah, I can't let. I can't let the homies know. Like, yeah, my daughter just dropped this new joint. Like, nah, they gotta miss this one.

[Mall]

But definitely check out Joyce Rice. That record is really, really good. And, yeah, she's gearing up to put a full project out out. This is definitely a Joy Stan podcast for sure. My girl. Do we want to stay Stay music.

[Ryan]

Mine's.

[Mall]

Well, I'm skipping over the T.I. names himself with Jay Kendrick, Andre 2000, Wayne Scarface, Eminem, and Jay Electronica. Because I agree with them and do.

[Rory]

What do you mean?

[Ryan]

I don't think any of those people should be named next to Jay.

[Mall]

But other than that, if we're doing an overall goats, I don't think there has to be 1. Go. Ti was on Ebro in the morning with Laura Stiles and Rosenberg. And, you know, they were doing it more of the top five conversation this and that, and they started throwing names around, and TI Was like, getting me. And I feel him.

[Ryan]

I do, too.

[Rory]

Well, he's supposed to.

[Ryan]

No, but it's not.

[Mall]

He's not supposed to. I still think Tip is there.

[Ryan]

Do you agree with him? Not what he thinks. Do you agree with his thoughts that

[Rory]

TI Is one of the best rappers we've ever had?

[Mall]

It.

[Ryan]

Yes.

[Rory]

Yeah, I agree.

[Ryan]

Okay.

[Mall]

That's all lyrics, singles, discography, changed entire sound.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mall]

Like, he vocabulary. He checks every box that you could think of for sure. If I'm TI probably be a little mad that my name's not brought up more in these types of conversations. Because he's there. Checked every box.

[Rory]

I mean, listen, man, y. Y' all know I love Andre 3000, but he ain't got no solo project. At least T.I. got solo albums.

[Mall]

Classic one.

[Rory]

Yeah. So at least. Yeah, he.

[Mall]

He's.

[Rory]

He's right there. Yes, absolutely.

[Mall]

I saw Rafael Sadiq had posted or somebody. I assume it was him. I don't know if it was someone on his team, but on his IG account, Sadiq moves he had posted. Rafael Sadiq. D' Angelo and Maxwell are not neo soul artists. Sorry, but that's the truth. Neo soul was a term created by one black executive purely as a shorthand. It helped labels internally identify which acts would not require crossover marketing budgets. Those funds were reserved for pop boy bands that were. Neil Soul signaled to executives in marketing meetings. These black artists might sell 150 to 350k, maybe half a million if they're really good. One million at best. It had nothing to do with the sound of the music. Hip hop was created by the people. I use that term often, but I feel him, he's.

[Rory]

He's definitely correct.

[Ryan]

I hear him.

[Rory]

He's correct.

[Mall]

Because I mean even I've been at labels where urban became the big word. I think now at labels, traditional R B is. Is the new code word for we can only give. We can only allocate so much budget to this artist because we know they're not going to sell as much because traditional R and B is not selling the way it used to sell. So I, I feel him. It. It did, but it did also coin a genre to me. I. I can see from their perspective, but. But as a fan that when I was younger did not care about who sold what I was in his business, that I honestly did not give a. If D' Angelo sold one record or 2 million records. It wasn't even in my brain at that time. It did help me discover artists like him and people within that genre. So I feel Rafael Sadiq. But the other side of that coin is a 12, 13 year old kid that just likes soulquarians and just wants to discover more music. Yeah, when I was at any record store trying to buy CDs, like I went to the neo soul section. Like it was helpful. I know that probably fucked them over, but it helped me discover a whole genre. I mean, hip hop had a lot to do with helping with neoso a lot with the Roots.

[Rory]

It's tied in.

[Mall]

Yeah, it's the same genre to some degree. And even putting together something like the Soquarians and what the Roots were doing at Geffen of how they got to pop was because they got Bilal, they got a whole crew around them where you could share fan bases. And yeah, I hear them. But that helped young fans Discover music.

[Rory]

I'm gonna be honest. I. I don't know. Maybe my timelines are wrong, but I can't really remember Neo soul really becoming a thing until I think, like, Music Soul Child.

[Ryan]

Yo, you took the words right out of my mouth.

[Rory]

Like music and what's India, Ari?

[Mall]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Rory]

Like, you know, like, yeah, I'm not.

[Mall]

My Hair was definitely the Neo Soul sound song that was on the radio.

[Rory]

Like, again, I could have my time, but I don't remember really hearing people even say the word neo soul until Music Soul Child because obviously, the success that he had with his first single and his first album and things like that. But before that, it was R and B. It was. You know what I mean? It was hip hop. It wasn't maybe jazz, obviously jazz and soul, but it wasn't neo. So I don't remember people even saying that.

[Mall]

I mean, I always. When I was younger, I always put.

[Rory]

When did Music Soul Child's first album come out?

[Mall]

His first time, I. Sure. But if it. Like, when he popped with best friend was 2002. 2000. 2000.

[Rory]

Yeah. I just want to sing was 2000. So, yeah, around that time, classic album. That's where she had a blend of R B, neo soul, funky. Like, I didn't really start hearing the word neo soul until.

[Mall]

What's so funny about that? I kind of remember Maxwell maybe.

[Rory]

Maybe a little bit. You heard the word Neo Soul, Max,

[Mall]

maybe Urban Hanksweed was. I remember it being. And the second album as well, being Neo Soul. I remember. I remember Music Soul Child was more of the crossover. Like, he's crossing over from neo soul.

[Rory]

That's how I think. I think that's why that became a thing, because they're saying these artists maybe 500,000, maybe a million. You know what I'm saying? But, like, I think Maxwell was still very much identified as an R B artist.

[Mall]

Right? Look up Music Soul Child. Don't change. I want to say 06.

[Ryan]

And there was also an aesthetic that went along with the Neo soul.

[Rory]

Like incense in the video, bigger movement.

[Ryan]

Like, there was. That was a whole thing. So, like, when he said, I understand what he's saying, but, like. Like, oh, my God, everything originates from something, and the meaning of things change. So, yes, that may be how it originated, but you can't say these artists are not neo soul because for what Neo Soul became, yes, they are. And I can understand when it comes to things like awards or budgets, why you might not want to be classified as certain things, but to the people, to the culture, that is what you are. And I think that it's something that you should be proud of.

[Mall]

I mean, okay, I hear you.

[Rory]

But saying it's still. It was still a way. It was like a code word in the marketing meetings of how much money to allocate to the budget for this particular artist in sound, which was like, it's kind of unfair because it's like, yo, why y' all just trying to create smaller budgets for this sound.

[Ryan]

But even if you were just soul or even if you were just R B, you would have gotten shorted either way. You would have gotten shorted either way. Yeah, it's a shorthand, but you would have got it shorted. You would have got it shorted either way. Either way.

[Mall]

But even, like, do you guys feel like the untitled video, d'. Angelo. To me, that is a. A, A pure R B video. Like, there's nothing.

[Rory]

Which one?

[Mall]

Untitled? There's. There's nothing Neo, quote, unquote, Neo soul about d' Angelo's V pause like that. That's a R B, greased up type of video.

[Ryan]

The video. But now song has a Neo soul sound. It might have been.

[Mall]

Oh, for sure.

[Ryan]

Song is Neo Soul.

[Mall]

Whether you guys are talking about visuals like Window. All right. Window Seat, Boom Bab drums. Erica Badu, window seat. She's walking around where JFK was assassinated butt ass naked and then gets assassinated at the end. I guess someone would put the conscious title on Neo Soul there. And it has boom bap drums. To me, that would be considered a stereotypical neo soul video, which, I mean respectfully, because I'm sure Ms. Badu does not consider herself Neo soul or that Neo Soul. I think that's just her art. But to me, that would be categorized more by a label as Neo soul than untitled. That's a sexy ass R B video. Yeah, yeah.

[Ryan]

But I don't know. It sounds. I'm a lot younger, so when I. Whenever I would hear d' Angelo growing up, I would automatically contribute it to Neo Soul. Like, Instant should be burning when I'm

[Mall]

playing it 50 cents. But that's a D'. Angelo, he determined not to fail. He went butt ass for his album to sell.

[Rory]

There you go.

[Mall]

Oh, I missed the early 2000s.

[Rory]

Good times, great time.

[Mall]

But I feel Rafael Sadiq in. In that. That way.

[Ryan]

And I also think when that was, when Neo soul was even being talked about, I think it was such a huge difference from the R B that was currently popular because the R B at the time, in the early 2000s, that was currently popular was not regular soul R B. It was very much attached to hip hop. It was.

[Mall]

It was attached to Boom Bap. Because, of course, I wasn't in the labels in the early 2000s, but when things were starting to shift and it went less of what Boom Bap was and more to what, say, Rough Ryders Roc, a fella Murder Inc. Was doing R and B was also shifting. But you still had the boom Bap rappers that they were like, well, we can't. If Blackstar wants to do a major deal, we're only gonna give them this amount because we think they're gonna sell this based off that sound. And that was those R and B artists too. But meanwhile, Maxwell and d'. Angelo, so crazy.

[Ryan]

Yeah.

[Mall]

Erykah Badu did as well.

[Rory]

Oh, for sure.

[Mall]

Like, they sold more than half a million on that that time. So. But I think that's what they do with traditional RB now.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mall]

Like, they call Coco Jones traditional R B. And I. I think that's up. Like, I get why, but I. The code words, what Rafael Sadiq is talking about is we think this type of music can only sell this amount.

[Rory]

Exactly.

[Mall]

And Coco's, I think, surpassed what people thought of traditional R and B in the new era.

[Ryan]

But even the fans would call her traditional R and B and they have no idea about anything budget related. She's traditional R and B because she is traditional R and B for sure.

[Mall]

But it's become in the labels, the way Rafael Siddiq is saying, I never viewed neo soul. I thought neo soul was a stat. I didn't know behind the scenes it was a death threat.

[Ryan]

Yeah.

[Mall]

I think traditional. When Coco Jones walks in knowing she makes real traditional R and B music, I don't think she views the marketing team going, well, you're traditional R B in a positive way.

[Ryan]

Yeah.

[Mall]

We watched Ari Lennox rightfully so. Go on Twitter with the Soul Train Awards and like, okay, you guys put me under soul, but then don't even properly pitch me to the Soul Train Awards. Yeah, stop putting me in these fucking categories that, you know, are designed for me to fail.

[Rory]

Right. So I can't put us in a box.

[Mall]

I get it. But I mean, even d'. Angelo. Someone have retweeted an old interview with d' Angelo saying, like, he didn't particularly like the term either. I make soul music. I don't make neo soul music.

[Rory]

What is neo?

[Mall]

It's a Matrix thing.

[Rory]

Exactly. It's the soundtrack to the Matrix.

[Mall]

But I don't know. Do we nerd out too much peach Ryan Was.

[Ryan]

Well, we're a music podcast. I like when we talk about music and not, you know.

[Rory]

See, now you boxing us in. That's how they do the neo soul. We're not a musician.

[Ryan]

We're an entertainment podcast, is what I always say.

[Mall]

Netflix put us on under comedy.

[Ryan]

You.

[Mall]

It's some jokes ain't made a joke, just my existence. Not. Oh, yeah, no, we were.

[Rory]

We were British to begin with, obviously. The Irish. And we.

[Mall]

We. We were conquered by. Yeah, the British.

[Rory]

Kind of homage to your people.

[Mall]

Rory, Billy Idol says smoking crack helped him quit. Heroin makes you.

[Rory]

I could dig it.

[Ryan]

That make perfect sense to me.

[Rory]

I could dig it.

[Ryan]

What we confused about?

[Rory]

Listen, if Billy Idol said it, he lived it.

[Ryan]

He said it worked.

[Rory]

His word for it. Shit, I'm gonna take his word for it now.

[Ryan]

How did he get off the crack? Did he say that part?

[Mall]

Nah, he's still on the crack.

[Ryan]

Oh, he's still on the crack?

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Ryan]

Crack is not as bad as heroin, though. Heroin will kill you. I ain't never seen a crackhead die.

[Rory]

Nah, crackheads don't die. You ain't never been to crackhead funeral. You ain't never been at a funeral like, yo, what happened to son? Yo, Crack?

[Ryan]

Never.

[Rory]

It's never happened.

[Mall]

I've been to funerals where I know people smoke crack, but they didn't die because of crack.

[Rory]

They didn't die because of crack.

[Ryan]

They just died from old age.

[Rory]

Yeah. Die from a cigarette before they die from crack.

[Mall]

That ass.

[Rory]

Like, what happened? He was smoking what? Crack? No, cigarettes. Oh, okay.

[Mall]

Yeah, I guess. Of course, you could probably overdose from crack. We know that. But I feel like when you smoke crack, you want to go on an adventure right away until the high. Like, you don't have time to OD because you're. It's adventure time.

[Rory]

Yeah. Crack is only wet until it maybe five minutes. Something like that. Like.

[Ryan]

Yeah, it's just crazy.

[Rory]

It's a quick high. It's just a quick, quick, quick joke. You know what I mean? It's like drinking a Red Bull.

[Ryan]

Okay. I don't.

[Mall]

I. I've drank Red Bulls. I just don't think it's like smoking crack.

[Ryan]

Maybe C4. C4 makes your skin crawl and doesn't crack do that. Oh, that's heroin.

[Rory]

Yeah. No, don't put that on crack.

[Mall]

Peace. What were you huffing in London?

[Rory]

The.

[Mall]

That Kanye was addicted to whippets. No, he would. No, Peach wasn't doing whippets in London.

[Rory]

The nitrous oxide.

[Mall]

The night.

[Rory]

Yeah, the nitrous Peach wasn't huffing that. He found that he. He walked out the bar and it was just on the street. Right. Somebody got out that bar and went crazy. Went right to the nitrous is wild as fuck.

[Ryan]

Isn't that like laughing gas? Kind of.

[Mall]

Yeah, I think so.

[Rory]

You just saw that they, the FDA approved the new Johnson and Johnson nasal spray that has ketamine in it. Did y' all see that word? Oh, the next generation, this new generation coming up, they about to be all fucked in the head. That's like, you can go buy that at cvs. Like they gonna be huffing ketamine now. Like.

[Ryan]

Well, I'm sure it's like a small, small amount. Just kinda like how that just means

[Rory]

buy the whole box.

[Ryan]

Cough syrup it. Yeah, true.

[Rory]

That's all that means buy the box Spravato.

[Mall]

That's what Brittany needs to be on treatment resistant depression.

[Rory]

Oh, I'm telling you, they about to go crazy on this. Just remember.

[Ryan]

But that sounds like something I have to get prescribed.

[Rory]

This is.

[Mall]

Yeah, but is that one of those depression that causes depression?

[Rory]

Of course.

[Mall]

Like, because like Paxil treats depression, but one of the side effects is suicide.

[Rory]

Yeah, like this is. This is.

[Mall]

That's not a joke. It's an actual thing.

[Rory]

Yeah, no, this is. I'm scared. I'm scared for this bravado thing.

[Ryan]

That's like carmax. Y' all think Carmax is fixing your lips, but if y' all stop using CarMax for two days, suddenly your lips are the chapped this they've ever been. It's you up?

[Rory]

No, just drink more water. You just dehydrated?

[Ryan]

No, well, not me. I don't have that problem. But yeah, people who use CarMax, they lips after three days be up again. There's glass in it.

[Rory]

There's glass and Carmex.

[Ryan]

Our intern told us. There's glass and Carmex. This is what we use.

[Mall]

But even like Blistex, which I use, I'm more of a Burt's guy, but

[Rory]

even Burt comics stopped using glass jars in 1996. The rumor that Carmax contains tiny glass shards is a false long standing urban legend designed to explain sensations of irritation or addictive use.

[Mall]

Well, in Ryan's defense, I don't know if the government like double checked. They may have just said they stopped using it.

[Rory]

Yeah, that was just the.

[Mall]

Like, I'm not sure that they that was really tested. And let's.

[Rory]

Can we ask AI, how many people actually finish a jar of Carmine or Blistex? Like how many People actually finish it. Like get to the bottom of that. You just know it's impossible.

[Mall]

And the jars of anything lip balm related like get a stick though, digging your dirty ass finger in in that and then just rubbing your lip like.

[Rory]

I mean, but it's your finger.

[Mall]

You know me. Things I touch in New York City,

[Rory]

it's still your favorite.

[Ryan]

Yeah, but you should be washing your hands before you put your.

[Mall]

I agree. I'm saying everyone that I've watched open that little container, I've never watched them wash their hands before they do it.

[Ryan]

Oh, yeah, no, people are dirty.

[Rory]

Just get a stick is considered a rare accomplishment with some estimates suggesting as many as 99 of people never actually finish one before losing it.

[Mall]

That's Navy Seal shit. That is a only Navy Seals finish.

[Rory]

If you see somebody pull a chapstick out their pocket, it and it's almost empty. Psycho. Psycho. How do you still have that? How do you still have that?

[Ryan]

No worrying.

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[Mall]

Our prayers are are with Britney Spears. Of course it is not good to drink and dry, but we're glad everyone is safe. Can we finally say I apologize to her dad. I've been asking this for five years

[Ryan]

on this podcast to your dad too.

[Mall]

What does that mean, I beat the case? First of all.

[Rory]

Hold on. What. What is she. What was she under the influence of? Was it alcohol? Was it pills? Was it like, what was it? Because a DUI doesn't mean you were drinking alcohol.

[Ryan]

She was booked under a vehicle code that says it's illegal or unlawful for a person who was under the combined influence of any alcoholic beverage and drug to drive a vehicle. So these charges related to drugs and alcohol will be sent to into her county district attorney's office. So she must have been on a combination of both, which is actually easy to. Even if you're not an addict, you around and have a drink and you had a Xanax earlier and so we don't know. But they said she was driving erratically.

[Mall]

Well, it has to be over. I think the California limit is 0.08 or whatever. That also had to be in effect if you're also in a dui.

[Ryan]

Yeah, but normal people drive over the limit all the time. Like, the limit is not high.

[Mall]

No, of course not. It's like it's one beer if that or something. But either way, I'm not saying what her dad did was right with her estate and that entire thing, but clearly there's been some things. Man, she's every day with knives doing this shit. She's got ninja stars.

[Rory]

That's just theater.

[Mall]

Like, is it?

[Rory]

She's in her house.

[Mall]

Yeah, she's not her. That's her TikTok series.

[Rory]

Yeah, she's in a crib. No, but all jokes aside, though, hopefully Britney Spears is okay. And, you know, this is just a night out of partying at a friend's house or something like that.

[Mall]

I mean, outside of the obvious of hoping she's okay, just on a human level, I do like, boom. Want Britney to Get better so she could give us a tour as well. That'd be on my bucket list to go see Britney Spears a lot. Like if she's in like Britney shape to do like a residency in Vegas. She wouldn't want to go see Britney Spears.

[Rory]

Absolutely. She did that. She had a residency. Yeah, she had a residency in Vegas.

[Mall]

Is there a reason I saw no footage?

[Ryan]

It was.

[Rory]

No, she had a residency in Vegas.

[Ryan]

What year?

[Rory]

It got canceled. She was scheduled. Oh, for a second one. Oh, second. The second one.

[Ryan]

2013 and 2017. Vet planning Hollywood Resort and Casino.

[Mall]

Okay.

[Ryan]

One of the most successful Las Vegas residencies in history. Yeah.

[Mall]

Okay. Well that was 2013. I'm saying like in this, this era, this area. Yeah, that would be great to see.

[Rory]

Seeing Brittany at the Sphere. What Toxic at the Sphere One more time. I used to have this crazy poster, Britney Spears on my wall.

[Mall]

Samesies.

[Ryan]

Well, she was dressed in. Huh?

[Rory]

Nah, she had on like, she had on like this, I want to say like this silver skirt shirt and a silver like top. I remember that though.

[Mall]

Like I know I had the first album with the flower joint. That, that was definitely on my wall. It's so crazy. If you go back to the like Christina Aguilera, Britney Spears videos that I used to watch on TRL that like TMI like used to give me like horny as a young kid like when I was going through puberty. If you go back and look at those now and you see the amount of skin they're not showing. That used to have me going crazy compared to now. Now like. And there's no disrespect to Meg or anything, but If I was 13 years old in 2003 and Meg the stallion came out on TRL, I probably nut in my pants.

[Ryan]

Did you see her and Cardi on stage performing in Houston last night? Oh, Meg looks great.

[Mall]

Meg is gorgeous.

[Ryan]

Her and Cardi looked great.

[Mall]

Britney Spears would show her knee and I would get a 13 year old erection. Like now I cannot even fathom what these kids are going to through. Yeah, it's tough on the, you know, it's crazy.

[Ryan]

I think they're used to it. I think they've been so exposed to it. I think they're used to it. They probably. That's why now with women. I don't know if you guys have seen but like the trad wife, like traditional like corset long flowy dresses are like coming back in style. Everything is becoming more conservative because we've hoard ourselves out so badly that it's not Even intriguing anymore.

[Mall]

Like, I missed sundress season when it was poking. The dress was down to. Down to their ankles.

[Ryan]

Normal women still wear sundresses every summer.

[Mall]

Of course. I know. I'm just saying, when it was like. Like that was the most sexualized in a. A healthy way.

[Ryan]

Yeah.

[Mall]

Cuz I. I could just not imagine at this point in my life how that would look. As a kid going through people, I

[Rory]

almost got in trouble for having the Little Kim Hardcore poster in my. In my school locker. Have y' all seen that?

[Mall]

That was one of the most provocative.

[Ryan]

We. We talked about it. We went viral with a clip.

[Mall]

She got that. That mo sn right there.

[Rory]

No, she doesn't.

[Ryan]

Yes, she does. That thing is fat.

[Rory]

Not that one. Not. Not the album cover. The one that was on the Bus Stops the Trains. Yeah, pull that one up.

[Mall]

Well, no, didn't it fold out that one?

[Rory]

Moose Knucklewear.

[Mall]

Nah, I think.

[Ryan]

Look, it's right there, baby. It's print.

[Rory]

That's cheetah print. That ain't.

[Mall]

No, I'm not talking about the length of the cheetah print.

[Rory]

There's nothing there. There's nothing crazy about this picture at all.

[Mall]

Oh, no, now. Now, a girl with a hundred followers that you run into would post something like this, which is fine.

[Rory]

Yeah. It's just that Kim was, you know, back then, obviously, everybody was like, damn, she's. She's pretty. And then seeing her like that. We had never saw Kim like that.

[Mall]

Well, do you know in 2002, when Mariah Carey used to cut the top of her jean shorts, what that used to do to me, I don't know. All she would do is cut the belt.

[Rory]

I don't even want to know what they used to do.

[Ryan]

I'm cool.

[Rory]

I'm cool on not knowing what it did to you.

[Ryan]

Right.

[Mall]

Nowadays.

[Ryan]

Oh, my God, y' all so old.

[Mall]

Y'. All.

[Ryan]

Y' all hear how old y' all sound, right? Nowadays, these young girls should.

[Rory]

That picture what, came out in what, 96, 97, I think.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Rory]

That's almost 30 years old, yo. Yeah, that picture's older than Ryan. That little Kim photo is older than Ryan.

[Mall]

You know what? Yet, like, young. Puberty. Rory. Oh, I owed James Cameron a lot of credit because it was before puberty. Titanic was not, like, marketed as some, like, raunchy movie that kids couldn't go see. It was like, really marketed as a. A Love story. Was it rated R?

[Rory]

Titanic?

[Mall]

It was not pitched like that. If I remember correctly, at that time, I was really young but it was. But then it was rated R3. But everyone was like, you got Celine Dion. It's love.

[Rory]

Like, rated PG 13. Word.

[Mall]

So I'm. This is my memory. My memory could be wrong. I was a kid.

[Rory]

Sensuality.

[Mall]

But it was something that you would bring your kids to see. It's love. It's. It's. Come on. I always.

[Ryan]

I don't think they were bringing your kids to see Titanic. It's very obviously adult move. An adult movie.

[Mall]

It was history. Yeah. I saw it with my parents and then I did not know three quarters.

[Rory]

It was a lot of families in the theater when.

[Ryan]

That I'm sure. Yeah, but I don't. It was not advertised as a family movie. Like, you sure. People might have bought their kids not knowing.

[Rory]

Exactly.

[Ryan]

It was not advertised as a family.

[Rory]

No, I'm just saying. Kind of was.

[Mall]

I'm just saying. It wasn't marketed the way Animal House was like it. It was. I went to see it in theaters.

[Ryan]

Yeah. But it's also not that runchy of a movie.

[Mall]

Well, I didn't know 3, 4 in when I'm 8 years old that I was going to see titties. Like.

[Ryan]

Yeah, that was crazy.

[Mall]

In, like, in a very beautiful slow motion. Like, I got time to see the titties. It wasn't like a flash that, like. We owe James Cameron a lot for doing that.

[Ryan]

Was the first time I seen titties. For sure.

[Mall]

You were 17. I was 7.

[Ryan]

Seeing titties on in TV. Like, in. Yeah.

[Mall]

Didn't it go all the way down? Didn't she show a little bush, too?

[Ryan]

No, there was no Bush.

[Rory]

No, she saw the little bush.

[Ryan]

Saw her back, like, saw her side. There was no bush. You saw her.

[Rory]

I feel like it was Bush. She showed Bush.

[Ryan]

She didn't.

[Mall]

Can we. Can we. She showed Bush type in Titanic.

[Rory]

New scene or some.

[Mall]

No, I'm telling you, in that. That.

[Rory]

That long shot she showed.

[Mall]

Yeah, I know. I'm not tripping.

[Ryan]

Like, y' all are stressing me out.

[Rory]

It was like a red bush.

[Ryan]

Oh, the curtains match the drapes. There was no bush. I know. There wasn't no bush. She. It was blocked by the photo.

[Mall]

Go to the director's cut.

[Ryan]

Y' all telling me about my favorite movie. I know.

[Rory]

There was no, like, Juice. There was two endings. This is like the movie Juice.

[Mall]

This is the Mandela effect. When I was seven years old, I remember seeing Bush.

[Rory]

She showed Bush.

[Ryan]

Bush was horny. Saw was the little bit top of that titty. The rest was always covered by that drawing.

[Mall]

No they did a whole long shot of her.

[Rory]

Whole naked body showed Bush, man.

[Ryan]

Yeah. Jesus Christ.

[Caller]

That.

[Ryan]

That is it. You are too horny. That was it.

[Rory]

We saw Bush.

[Mall]

This is that 2012 effect. Erstein, bears, Kazam, all that.

[Ryan]

This is that.

[Rory]

What's her name? Kate. What?

[Mall]

Kate Winslow.

[Rory]

What's her name? Kate Wino.

[Ryan]

It starts with a W, though.

[Rory]

Eddie Winslow's daughter. Like, who?

[Ryan]

Kate Winlet.

[Rory]

I was close. Winslow is hilarious. Kate Winslow. That's Eddie Winslow's daughter. His adopted daughter. You know, you didn't see her on.

[Ryan]

You can stop looking for the bush that doesn't exist. Ryan, it's okay.

[Rory]

It was Bush.

[Mall]

Move on.

[Ryan]

Move on from the conversation.

[Rory]

Kate Winslow is 50. That's another one add to the list. Knock her right off.

[Ryan]

Knock it down.

[Rory]

Knock her right off.

[Mall]

Damaris. Do we have voicemails?

[Rory]

You've got mail.

[Mall]

These are sponsored by Boost.

[Ryan]

We do. We actually have a follow up, so.

[Mall]

Okay.

[Caller]

Yo, this Michigan man from Atlanta. Nah, I just wanted to. I appreciate y' all taking my first message. I didn't even know it was gonna get through, but I just wanted to add a little clarity to it. Nah, man, we weren't.

[Rory]

We did a lot.

[Caller]

We did a lot of fun things. We weren't just, like, laying up every day, dehydrated, drinking alcohol, and watching baddies. That was like, a misconception because I have enough time to get the whole off. But the original point of me hitting y' all because I fuck with y' all and I fuck with y' all opinions, like, even after she poured the piss in my face, like, I think we took, like, a five month, like, no contact, and she FaceTimed me randomly one night, like, crying type shit. I think, like, I ignored the first three calls. She called again. I answered. So with my big heart, hearing them tears through the phone, I pull back up my big heart, and no, we're not back together. But, you know, I have. I have been back around, helping her move into the new spot that she got, you know, just all kind of putting together real. Just, like, same boyfriend duties, like. But she will have me thinking that we're. You know, the effort that I'm putting in is getting us back to a place, but it's not, you know what I'm saying? It's like she want the freedom to do what she want to do, but then she still wants. Want the. The convenience of me. So it's like, why do we, like, accept breadcrumbs? It ain't no insecurity and ain't like that. It's just like, I love this person, by the way, Rory, my closet is clean.

[Ryan]

That.

[Mall]

That.

[Ryan]

That grip condom off that.

[Mall]

Can you give. Can you give the backstory? Because this is a follow up voicemail of somebody that called in already. Can you give the backstory to the original voicemail?

[Ryan]

To people who have not heard our Rapper's Delight episode with Zip, There was a caller who called in and was in a toxic relationship. Well, he had been in a toxic relationship with a girlfriend. They drank a lot, they had a lot of fun together. But at one point, she found a pair of panties in his closet that were old. He didn't know whose they were, but she spazzed out through piss in his face. They broke up, and now he was asking. He's back talking to her. He was asking us what we thought about it. We told him that. Well, I told him that if somebody throws piss in your face and you stay with them, y' all belong together because she crazy and you crazy for stuff with her. And y' all told him to leave her alone. Blah, blah, blah, blah. Zip said he pissed on a girl's bed. So now we're here. He calls with the follow up, and he's telling y' all that they not together. She called him crying. He fell for the tears. And now, you know, he's been helped. She's been. He's been helping her move and things like that, but they aren't official.

[Rory]

What's his name? Mitch.

[Ryan]

His name is. Yes, I think. I think that's from Atlanta.

[Rory]

Don't be a sucker. Sucker is born every 17 seconds in America.

[Ryan]

America.

[Rory]

Don't be one. You can't let a woman throw piss in your face and then fall for the fake tears and then go help her move into a new spot and you.

[Ryan]

Friend zone.

[Rory]

Ooh, don't do that. Don't be that guy.

[Ryan]

But she doesn't trust him because she found panties in his house while she.

[Rory]

Mitch, don't be that Mitch. Don't be that guy. There's others, better women out there. There's women that will never even think about throwing piss in your face. Please, don't. Don't. Don't be a sucker. There's enough of those in America.

[Mall]

Should it be a death sentence for a misdemeanor? You found panties with no explanation. There was context. They were old. You didn't want to hear that. That. And you threw piss at him. And then he allows you back in his presence. I see why you want to do that. He'll let you do anything then.

[Rory]

Yeah. Don't be a sucker. Don't be a sucker.

[Mall]

I know why she's fake crying him. She knows if I throw piss at someone and they answer the phone, that's called gaslighting. I can do. It's not gaslighting when she cries. No, that's just straight disrespect to. I know I could do anything to this person that's past gaslighting.

[Rory]

Mitch, don't be that guy.

[Mall]

Mitch, that's a bonfire.

[Rory]

We care about you over here at Rory and Mary Mall. Don't be that guy.

[Ryan]

Miss, you love that girl.

[Rory]

Stand up.

[Ryan]

Stand that girl, man, stay with her. Don't listen to these. They both single and lonely.

[Rory]

Stand tall. I ain't.

[Ryan]

Face might smell like piss, but one thing about mall.

[Rory]

I ain't lonely. Don't ever. Don't. Don't listen to baby talk about it,

[Ryan]

cuz you tell me every week and you lonely. So is it uchi wy or is it one mic?

[Rory]

I never said I was lonely. I never said I was lonely. I said I'd be alone. Being alone and being lonely is two different things.

[Ryan]

Okay, so what's the difference?

[Mall]

Like when y' all say single about choice.

[Rory]

It's a difference.

[Ryan]

Okay, well, both of these are alone. And you, you know you laid up with something.

[Rory]

No, he's not.

[Ryan]

And if she. She could just piss on the man. I know she a squirter. If she could just piss on the man and throw it in your face, I know she.

[Mall]

There's other squirters out there that won't

[Rory]

throw pisses that won't throw.

[Mall]

Won't essentially will squirt in your face if you want them, but not only

[Rory]

will not throw piss in your face, that's a thought. Won't even across their mind to throw piss in your face. Like she's a dog. She's a dog.

[Mall]

Still want to know what cup she picked?

[Rory]

She needs to be. She needs to be by herself.

[Ryan]

I know. It was a plastic cup, one of them dollar tree cups.

[Rory]

She's a dog. That's what you call a dog.

[Mall]

It was clear. So to see that she was dehydrated, he tried to. I. I could tell by his guilty conscience when he was like, nah, we don't be drinking. Like he was trying to say it was hydrated.

[Ryan]

If you. If, if. Listen, man, listen. She's a terrible person, right? But apparently you love her and you like the fact that she's a terrible person. So you. If you want our permission for you to Stay with her because that's what you're gonna do regardless. Then do I think you deserve better? Nah, not really. Because if you willing to stay with that, I don't think you deserve better. You don't think you deserve better? How I'm going think high more highly

[Rory]

of you than you do you see how they think? You see how they think about you? Mitch, once you make that decision that old women like, oh, he don't respect himself enough. He don't love himself enough. He don't think he deserve better. Don't fall into that category. King stand tall.

[Ryan]

Mitch, did you have toxic parents? Because there's no way you grew up in a healthy, happy household and a woman through piss in your face face. And you think that that's the guy

[Rory]

was mean to still not only she still piss in your face, she still has access to you.

[Ryan]

She called your phone crying.

[Rory]

I'd have been like, where you at? I'd have sent my big cousin over there to whoop her ass.

[Ryan]

And by the way, by the way, she don't want to be in a relationship with you because she got something on her line right now. Let me tell you something, baby. She got something on her line right now that would never let her throw piss in her. Piss in his face.

[Mall]

See, he's not going to help her move.

[Rory]

He would throw piss in her face and not help her move.

[Ryan]

Okay, okay.

[Rory]

Learn. See?

[Mall]

Yeah, fiction. My thing is though, like, even if you want to entertain a woman that threw piss in your face, she should be at your crib helping you move. The are you move.

[Rory]

She should be at my crib, being my pet. You got to do everything I say around this.

[Mall]

You put pee pads just around the whole.

[Rory]

You got to do everything I say in here dog.

[Ryan]

She home train. I actually had a Snapchat person I used to follow on Snapchat who used to have two women. Women in cages eating out of dog food bowls every day. Consensually.

[Rory]

I mean, yeah, that's what. That's what she a magic. Go get a biggest. Go big. Go get the biggest dog cage you can find at petsmart. Put it in your living room and tell her to come over. You got a new bed for her and tell her to get in the cage. That's what you treat her. So she want to throw piss in somebody's face. Treat her like a dog.

[Mall]

He wants to be the one in the cage.

[Rory]

Cage. Yeah. He. No, that's what I'm saying. He should.

[Ryan]

He might have. Yeah.

[Mall]

He might be a submissive Mitch, listen, if that's his. If that's his.

[Rory]

She threw piss in his face and he's helping her move.

[Ryan]

He stuck his tongue out.

[Mall]

If that's their thing, I'm not going to judge them that way. It sounded like it was out of anger in a disrespectful way to throw piss at you. That's different than liking piss on you and someone throws piss on you.

[Rory]

Yeah, it's a difference.

[Ryan]

I still got to know if he was cheating or not because he might be lying us. Cuz if you were cheating.

[Rory]

It still don't. That's. That don't matter. That don't matter.

[Ryan]

Say I understand. I would do it. I understand.

[Rory]

No, you don't.

[Mall]

You want to cut up his clothes. Cool. Whatever. Tweet that he's a piece of this. That throwing piss in someone's face.

[Ryan]

Y' all don't get to play. And this is Mitch design you. We're now moving the conversation to a hypothetical because we're not saying that you did cheat. Y' all don't get to hurt people and put people's safety at risk and then decide how they get to react.

[Rory]

The judge does because that's exactly where you'll be at.

[Ryan]

That's fine.

[Rory]

You throw piss in my face right in front of the judge with a broke nose.

[Mall]

Okay, well, fair. Yes. You can't control someone sneak attacking you by pissing in the bathroom with a cup and then throwing at you when you had no idea what's coming. Cool. I agree. But you also have the choice to not deal with that person ever again.

[Ryan]

No.

[Mall]

For sure.

[Ryan]

Two things can be true with you. Good job.

[Rory]

Lock her up. Call the cops, Mitch. Put her in jail where she belong with the rest of them dogs.

[Ryan]

I wonder what the statute of limitation is. I'm throwing piss on somebody.

[Mall]

Is it a law?

[Rory]

Yeah, that's assault.

[Mall]

No, I agree. It should be. I. I just don't know.

[Rory]

That's definitely assault.

[Ryan]

It's like coughing on some.

[Mall]

You.

[Rory]

You be locked up in prison and throw piss on a co and see what happens to you.

[Mall]

I'm sure that wouldn't go over well. I. I just didn't know if the Rikers law.

[Rory]

It's a serious criminal act generally classified as battery. Battery or assault, because this involves the throwing of bodily fluids, is often treated as a biohazard related offense. Statute of limitations. The time limit to charge someone with this offense depends on whether it is prosecuted as a misdemeanor or felony in most jurisdictions. Simple batteries and misdemeanor with a statute of limitation of one to two years.

[Ryan]

But how you gonna prove. How can you prove that I threw piss on you? You can't prove that.

[Mall]

I remember when I was young, the really degenerate kids used to piss in condoms, tie them, and throw my car.

[Caller]

Cars.

[Ryan]

Oh, my God.

[Rory]

Yeah, y' all was too bored over there. Were you from Queens? Yeah, I was too bored over there.

[Mall]

A lot of. Lot of traffic.

[Rory]

Get off the belt.

[Ryan]

That's disgusting.

[Mall]

And I remember on this. The side where the woods were over, like, they would throw it at cop cars sometimes.

[Rory]

Nah, see, y' all tripping. Halloween, maybe, but on a random Wednesday.

[Ryan]

I think it's a Halloween if it's a holiday. Makes sense.

[Rory]

Yeah, Halloween, you know, we was doing whatever outside, but that was just.

[Mall]

I mean, silly teenage. Yeah, but I just think it's funny to hold a piss so you could piss in a condom. That was just always kind of funny to me. And then tying a condom. I know you getting pissed on your

[Rory]

hands and, like, was they putting the condom on and peeing in it?

[Mall]

I didn't, like. I wasn't staring. I wasn't, like, watching them. Yeah.

[Rory]

Like, how do you.

[Mall]

They would, like, turn around and piss

[Ryan]

when you hang the water balloon from this fountain.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Cuz you got to put it on the. On the faucet.

[Ryan]

Right.

[Rory]

Getting some head.

[Mall]

I'm just. I suppose I never participated in it. I did stand and watch and laugh, but I never threw a piss condom at anyone. I was a nerd. I wasn't cool. That's what cool kids were doing.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mall]

Ironically, y', all. I was.

[Ryan]

So I was watching Euphoria last night, and it was the scene where. I don't. If y' all remember the chubby girl, she the dude from high school that used to be, like, lit.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Ryan]

Remember? Why are the kids that from high school that were lit in high school? I've never seen one continue the litmus. Like, they always. The most popular kids always fall off. Like, I've never seen one continue on.

[Mall]

Yeah. I mean, ever. Damn, homie. In high school, you was the man, homie. What the happened to you?

[Rory]

No, that's not true. LeBron was the man in high school.

[Mall]

Well, I mean, when you could have went to NBA at 13, you just.

[Rory]

Yeah. LeBron was the man in high school. Savannah knew. Do that.

[Mall]

Don't. Don't do that to his soulmate.

[Ryan]

That's. See, he.

[Mall]

That. That's love.

[Ryan]

That's. You didn't have to say that.

[Mall]

She would have still married Everybody knew that.

[Ryan]

McDonald's knew that.

[Rory]

Everybody knew that, including Savannah. What's wrong with me saying his wife. They went to high school together.

[Mall]

No, I know.

[Ryan]

Which I think is beautiful story thing, right? Where you just. You named.

[Mall]

I'm saying in Savannah's case, he could have blown his knee out his senior year.

[Rory]

Could have.

[Mall]

She loved him.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mall]

He just so happened to become one of the greatest paths.

[Ryan]

I wish I had eyes like that when I was younger. I ain't have eyes like that.

[Mall]

You weren't born in akron, Ohio in 1984.

[Rory]

Nah, but up there, but up there and, and, and, and Q's, they had. They was some niggas that you knew was going to. To Syracuse University. You knew, you knew who was going.

[Ryan]

Yeah, but none of them niggas is it to this day.

[Rory]

Yeah, that's true.

[Mall]

But a lot of like, why people are cool in high school is for sometimes like immature reasons. So if you're looking at it at that scope as a girl, that's not going to last very long for junior senior year. Yeah, it'll be fun.

[Ryan]

I also.

[Mall]

But that's not. Doesn't have longevity.

[Ryan]

I think it limits you. I think when you are that popular, that young, it up. Your like, idea of like the real world, it can. You know what I'm saying? Like, I think that literally, like, you up. I don't think it was going to happen regardless. I think that you might not have it. You don't know what you're chasing because you think you've hit it, you've hit that peak and you go on to the real world. You're nobody and you're not used to being nobody. I think if you're used to being nobody in high school, when you get to college, it's like another chance to reinvent yourself. But people leave high school going to college and expect to still be that nigga. And it's just like, nah, homie.

[Mall]

And teenage impulse is like, should be studied because there's. There were people far smarter than me, way more athletic than me that just were impulsive to bullshit that was happening in high school and that hindered the rest of their future. Yeah, like, impulse should really be studied with. With teenage kids. I think the kids that have the least amount of impulse in high school are typically the people that have a longer career, if you will, because there was kids way smarter than me, just never did because they were impulsive to.

[Rory]

Right.

[Mall]

Far smarter than me 100% and probably had a different scope of longevity. But nah, we gonna around for these Four years. Yeah. We're gonna get lit. Because I. I think I've known one person that ever made it to a

[Rory]

brick that never made it to. What?

[Mall]

That made it to a brick. I think I know one person from high school that. That actually made it to one brick. Just one? Just one.

[Rory]

I never knew nobody from high school that made it to a brick. Not even one.

[Mall]

I'm sure. Well, I mean, I'm sure you've known people that have made it far past one brick.

[Rory]

Oh, for sure.

[Mall]

I'm saying, me personally, I think I know one person that made it to a brick for my high school. Well, everyone else for eight balls. Yeah.

[Rory]

That's not their lane. Stay in your lane. All right. Well, what's up? Major majors here. Zip zip. You Here.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Ryan]

Can we pray?

[Rory]

All right, man. We're gonna get into some patron praying before Patreon. For what? Pray for Patreon.

[Mall]

Our Father, who art in heaven, hallowed be thy name. Thy made a Catholic that will be done as earth and is in heaven. No.

[Rory]

Are you leading the prayer?

[Ryan]

No.

[Rory]

Who's leading the prayer?

[Ryan]

You. It's Ramadan.

[Rory]

Ask for no prayer.

[Ryan]

Ain't it time for you to pray right now?

[Rory]

No. Who told you that?

[Mall]

Mecca's that way.

[Rory]

No. No. I don't know what the marriage is doing. Yo, we'll talk to y' all soon. Be safe. Be blessed. I'm that. He's just ginger. We on the Patreon.

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[Rory]

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