Episode 465 | Domaniacs

Summary

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New Rory & MAL – Episode 465 | "Domaniacs"

Date: March 10, 2026
Podcast: New Rory & MAL (iHeartPodcasts and The Volume)

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Episode Overview

In this lively and sharply funny episode, Rory, Mal, Damani, and Peach tackle the ongoing T.I. vs. 50 Cent family rap beef, dissect new and buzzworthy music releases, debate about internet hate/fandoms, and serve up classic New Rory & Mal comedic takes on music industry politics, New York living, and what it means to really be part of – or against – the "Domaniacs" fanbase. From breakdowns of multi-generational rap drama to deep dives on notable new albums and the ever-polarizing Ebro/Uzi debate, the episode is a rapid-fire ride through music, culture, and internet discourse—with plenty of laughs, arguments, and memorable one-liners.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. NYC Spring Vibes & Seasonal Antics

[03:45 – 05:56]

• The crew opens by celebrating a surprise warm day in NYC, joking about New Yorkers prematurely breaking out shorts and acting like summer has arrived.
• Peach: “They throwing out. And you know who they are.”
• Mocks rush to enjoy the weather, warning folks not to put away jackets yet:
  • Peach: “Y’all gonna be sick. Coughin pneumonia next week.”
  • Damani notes he's stuffed up because of the wild temperature swings.
• The group jokes about Mr. Softee (the ice cream man), Ramadan, and the annual NYC optimism that March will bring sustained warmth—before reality hits.

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2. Weekend Recaps: Harlem Venture & Supporting Friends

[06:08 – 08:48]

• Damani recounts his weekend stepping out in the city, attending Marlon’s video shoot, and a tasting at "Big Papas" with Biggie’s kids (CJ and Tiana).
  • Damani calls the West Indian food “incredible,” reminisces about seeing Junior Mafia, Lil Kim, and others.
• Hangs at Shark Bar with friends, shares thoughts on supporting friends’ businesses (“I’m never somebody that shows up somewhere to support without paying.”)
• Rory and Peach reflect on the right way to support your friends’ ventures and the perks and pitfalls of showing up as both friend and customer.

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3. Streaming Picks & Show Talk: "Paradise" and Spoilers

[11:09 – 16:24]

• The crew debates the Netflix film “War Machine,” discusses Dennis Quaid’s eternal “concerned father” persona.
• Deep-dive into the show "Paradise" (Spoilers Alert at [11:11]!), discussing characters’ choices, cliffhangers, and the meaning of partnership versus marriage.
• Quotes:
  • Damani: “If I was him, I’d have left that baby with them people.” [12:18]
  • Rory: “It’s the type of man he is. Like, anybody else would have dropped that baby off. He like, nah, I got it.” [12:48]
  • Peach: “They were trauma bonding.” [16:12]

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4. The "Domaniacs" and Internet Fandom Wars

[16:24 – 21:46]

• Damani wonders if the internet loves him or is just full of "Domaniacs" (T.I.'s son’s ride-or-die fans).
• The panel debates what “hate” means in the internet era—do strong opinions = hating?
  • Rory: “Diet Meet the Grams is a direct quote.” [18:43]
• Recap of Damani’s viral “diet Meet the Grams” critique of a Damani diss track and how the online fanbase reacts to criticism, comparing it to "barbs" or K-pop stans.
• Introspective on being critiqued online, how discourse is now about “picking sides,” and the impossibility of just disagreeing civilly about music.

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5. The T.I. & Family vs. 50 Cent Rap Beef

[23:00 – 29:06]

• The crew analyzes the ongoing back-and-forth between T.I.’s family and 50 Cent:
  • 50 Cent’s response (via Power TV series intro song, not a direct diss) gets examined for strategic wit but possible lack of “real” engagement.
  • Peach: “[50’s] response was clever. Like, that’s how you move—he’s not writing a whole song.”
  • Rory and Damani debate whether 50's “one-line” response is enough or just clever promotion using beef as fuel.
  • 50’s Instagram denial of further beef: “No response to retarded ass rappers who can’t write a hit to save their lives.” [26:32]
• Mal raises the question: who’s the real “winner”? Consensus is Damani (and T.I. by association) gained the most exposure and critical respect from the whole thing.
  • Rory: “I think [Damani] introduced him to a W. People now know how dope he is, and I like that.” [28:42]

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6. Good Music Family Feuds: CyHi’s 7-Minute Epic

[37:49 – 63:36]

• The show shifts gears, breaking down the new 7-minute CyHi track chronicling drama and relationships across the GOOD Music roster (Kanye, Travis Scott, Big Sean, Pusha T, Kid Cudi, and more).
• Standout quotes & reactions:
  • Damani: “The last three records Saha put out is the greatest example of elite rapping that I’ve seen in quite some time.” [38:07]
  • Peach: “Saha is definitely a lot better than all of these rappers that y’all love.” [38:44]
• Details on CyHi’s loyalty, his pen game, and the complexity of writing for Travis Scott while Travis lets Drake take shots at Kanye on “Sicko Mode”.
  • Damani: “How your biggest record you got Drake talking about pulling up to our man’s crib?” [44:13]
• The often-fraught relationships within the label are probed (Travis’s loyalty, the Kanye/Virgil dynamic, and Cudi’s alignments).
• Multiple moments dissecting “loyalty” in hip hop and the music business (friendship vs. business loyalty), and what makes for healthy creative relationships.
  • Peach: “We can disagree, but we can still respect each other’s perspective and stance on certain things. I think that’s what Saha basically was saying throughout most of this record.” [63:57]

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7. New Releases: Pimmy, Yebba, Ty Dolla $ign, Gnarls Barkley

[67:00 – 88:43]

• Pimmy’s (OVO) Mini-Album: Praised for “fire” writing and vibe, but group jokes that at 17-18 minutes, it’s too short—“This is like when you’re arguing with your girl, and she whips up a quick meal. That shit fire, but…ain’t no leftovers.” [67:35]
• Yebba's Album:
  • Called "great white soul," the project is described as perfect for a road trip or long walk, with southern/country inflections.
  • Peach: “This project was incredible…The lyrics, you can relate. She on here talking her shit.” [74:51]
• Gnarls Barkley’s New Album:
  • The album is described as “chaotic, dark, and all over the place”—not what the crew expected, but with “joints on there.”
• Ty Dolla $ign’s Project:
  • Group wishes Ty would combine EPs into a classic, but praise the “short project” trend (even Yebba’s is just 40 minutes).
  • Commentary on the return of shorter, tightly-curated albums in the streaming age.

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8. Ebro vs. Uzi Vert: The 10-Year Clowning

[89:06 – 95:59]

• Rory and Damani break down why the Internet is roasting Ebro for his 2016 prediction that Lil Uzi Vert wouldn’t last 10 years:
  • Ebro said, “I’ll still be here, you won’t.”
  • Now Uzi is “A to B list,” still huge with a rabid fan base; meanwhile Ebro’s no longer at Hot 97.
• Ebro’s current take is dismissed as a dodge; the crew say Uzi’s fanbase is massive, and old head “quintessential rapper” tests are outdated for modern stars.
  • Damani: “There’s 100,000 kids that are anticipating a Lil Uzi Vert album. What are we talking about?” [91:41]

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9. Industry & Cultural Notes (Stove God, Rihanna news)

• Stove God’s Upcoming Project: All produced by Swizz Beatz, with features by Pusha T and Westside Gunn. There’s excitement and skepticism about the chemistry and execution.
• [97:48] Prayers for Rihanna: The hosts react to news about a gunman targeting Rihanna’s home, emphasizing the dangers of extreme “stan” culture and saying the perpetrator should face the maximum penalty.

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Memorable Quotes & Moments

• On Internet hate/fandoms:
  • Damani: “The domaniacs are on some K-bot OVO-type shit right now!” [18:00]
• On Saha’s record:
  • Damani: “Before you go down this lane, make sure your soul is trained. One of the hardest bars I’ve heard.” [41:55]
• On short albums:
  • Peach: “This is like when you arguing with your girl and you hungry and she just whoop up a quick meal. That shit fire, but…ain’t no leftover. It was only enough for one plate.” [67:35]
• On Ebro/Uzi:
  • Damani: “Asking a room full of people that are not Uzi fans if they're anticipating something is the biggest cop out ever.” [94:19]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• NYC Weather/Baby D: [03:45–05:56]
• Damani’s Weekend/Big Papas Taste Test: [06:08–08:48]
• Paradise Show Spoilers: [11:09–16:24]
• Domani, Internet Hate/Fandoms: [16:24–21:46]
• T.I. vs. 50: Breakdown & Reaction: [23:00–29:06]
• GOOD Music/CyHi 7-Minute Record: [37:49–63:36]
• Pimmy, Short Projects, Yebba, Gnarls Barkley: [67:00–88:43]
• Ebro vs. Uzi/Hot 97 Prediction: [89:06–95:59]
• Stove God + Swizz Beatz / Rihanna News: [100:41+]
• Closing: Music recommendations, walks to Yebba: [102:07–102:41]

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Tone & Style

The hosts balance playful, irreverent banter with moments of genuine insight and passionate debate. The energy is high throughout, with lots of inside jokes ("pause moments"), direct hits at each other, and classic New Rory & Mal chemistry.

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Useful for New Listeners

This summary captures the full span of the episode: from the temperature outside to the temperature of internet beef. It highlights showdowns, new music recommendations, industry commentary, and the endless discourse on what is or isn't "hate." Whether you want recaps of rap beefs, streaming picks, or just a sense of why the internet is obsessed with “Domaniacs,” this episode delivers.

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Best For:

• Hip-hop and R&B fans
• Listeners invested in industry drama, beefs, and internet culture
• Fans of New Rory & Mal's humorous, conversational, and unfiltered analysis

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Not to miss: The debates about what makes someone a hater, the in-depth CyHi/GOOD Music breakdown, and the recurring acknowledgment that in today's music world, everyone has to survive both group chats and group chats-with-beefs.

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End of summary.

Transcript

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[Rory]

No warrior ma.

[Damani]

No conductor.

[Rory]

No warrior.

[Peach]

We are back and That's a fact.

[Damani]

70 degrees. If you're not in a good mood in New York City.

[Peach]

Listen, they throwing out, baby.

[Damani]

Get on the Paxil.

[Peach]

They throwing out. And you know who they are. You know who they are.

[Rory]

I don't know who they is.

[Peach]

Please enlighten me, my love legs. The soft legs is throwing out. They thawing out.

[Damani]

You had the knees out today.

[Rory]

No, I have fully covered pants.

[Damani]

Okay.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Peach]

Oh, it's Ramadan. Alhamdulillah. Yeah.

[Damani]

75.

[Peach]

And. And the ice cream man is back.

[Damani]

That is true.

[Peach]

Seen Mr. Softy uptown yesterday?

[Rory]

Pause.

[Peach]

Mr. Softy uptown. That might be a pause.

[Damani]

Yeah, no, it's a pause.

[Peach]

It might be a pause.

[Damani]

That's a legitimate pause.

[Peach]

I'm just saying. How. How do we say. Should we say pause? Mr. Softy?

[Rory]

You could say pause, Mrs. Softy. Or you could just say the Ice Cream Man. Like we all assume it's Mr. Softy. Like we don't need you to put a name.

[Peach]

The Ice Cream man is back out.

[Damani]

Unless you're calling Drake that. Then I'm saying pause.

[Rory]

Where his name even come from?

[Damani]

Iceman? Ice Cream Man.

[Peach]

Nah. Like, nah. Okay, just leave him. Just leave him alone. Let him do what he doing.

[Damani]

I'm still trying to get over. I'm calling him the boy. Poppy. I'm definitely not moving over onto ice cream.

[Peach]

No, no, just Drake. You know, nobody asked for Drake's name right there. See what I'm saying?

[Damani]

Cut it out.

[Peach]

Nobody asked for that.

[Damani]

Just put a beep.

[Peach]

But yes, the Ice Cream man is back. That means Baby D. The time is upon us around the corner.

[Rory]

You New Yorkers do this every year. It's around the corner and then March come and whoop that ass.

[Damani]

That is a fact.

[Peach]

No, it's going to be 38 Friday. I just want you.

[Damani]

Yeah, yeah. March plays with our emotions a lot.

[Peach]

Yeah, it's going to be 38.

[Damani]

If this was 10 years ago, we would have been at Blockheads and Shorts Nastiness.

[Peach]

So somebody last night with Shorts. And I was just looking at him like, fam, not yet, not yet. Like, come on, Shorts.

[Damani]

No, I was uptown last night. It looks like Harlem summer in there.

[Peach]

Shorts.

[Damani]

People had the three buttons now.

[Peach]

Yeah, Come on, come on. Yeah. Y' all doing too much. Y' all gonna be sick. Coughing pneumonia next week this time. Like, see, just relax, relax. Put the heavy, heavy. You can put the heavy, heavy, heavy coats away, but don't put the, the light little jackets. Don't, don't put the jackets away yet. Keep the jackets in the clouds.

[Damani]

If you can hear, I am congested. That is because we went from 30 degree blizzard to 70 degrees within one week. Yeah, and my body can't handle that, man.

[Peach]

Just get you some ginger. We're going to get you some ginger.

[Damani]

My body ginger.

[Peach]

Ginger, Yeah. I mean, eat your own people today and you'll be just fine.

[Rory]

Not cannibalism.

[Peach]

Yeah.

[Damani]

Guess it's not a pause.

[Peach]

No, that's not a pause.

[Damani]

I actually went outside and did something this weekend.

[Rory]

I saw you on Mitch Story.

[Peach]

What did you do, Rory?

[Damani]

Yesterday I was, I was, I was kind of outside yesterday. It was a nice day. Stopped by Marlon had a video shoot. Stopped by there first. Then I went to CJ and Tiana who are Biggie's kids. They had a taste testing for the restaurant that they're opening called Big Papas Fire. Which was incredible. The food, I'm not just saying this. The food was incredible. West Indian. The steak was great. Jerk wings were incredible. Curry chicken was great. It was a good time. It was a good time. All the Junior mafia was there. Even Kim was there. Like it was, it was cool to just see everyone get together for Biggie's kids and I. I hope they open the restaurant soon.

[Peach]

Dope.

[Damani]

So it was, it was a good time. Good, good hang. Yeah. Fire so seas was in there. Shit, the locks. Everyone was there. It was, it was a really good time.

[Peach]

That's dope, man.

[Rory]

So what you was doing on Mitch Story? Mitch's story.

[Damani]

Oh, well, once I left, I mean, because Junior Mafia is probably the only adults that can out drink me. Like I told you guys on the Rock the Bells cruise, I couldn't keep up with jadakiss and lil Cs. And I can drink. For real. For real. I can't drink till 6am Till the sun comes up. Yeah, that's just not like Nino can still out drink. A 35 year old man in his prime of drinking. So had a little, little juice in me. So I was like, let me go up town to Shark Bar, go see Mitch and Major. And boy, did all the steam leave me once I got in there. I can't. I can't hang. Whole car ride. I'm pumped. I'm like, yo, on my way.

[Peach]

Yeah, you called me. I'm like, I'm in the house. Like, I'm not going nowhere on a Sunday night. Like, I'm chilling.

[Damani]

They was in there, though. Shock bars is. Is dope.

[Peach]

Shout out to Shark Bar. Shout out to Mitch. If you in, you know, in Harlem on Sundays, go to Shark Bar. Shout out, Mitch, tell her we sent you.

[Rory]

Tell her we sent you. Go uptown, tell them that I sent you.

[Peach]

Go town to Harlem. Tell Mitch I sent you.

[Damani]

And Mitch is a hustler, man. I'm thinking, yo, it's co workers, friends. Like, of course I'm there to pay. I'm never somebody that shows up somewhere to support without paying.

[Peach]

That means you wasn't there to pay. Like, when you say that. Yeah, because you don't got to say that.

[Damani]

No, but there's a lot of people that assume when they go to their friend's spot. Yeah, I've never been that person.

[Rory]

You're a man.

[Damani]

I paid for the Russell's album. It's on dsps. I support. I'm a supporter of my friends mission. Gave you give a little friend discount. Nah, nah, you something. And I tipped her on cash. I was like, God damn.

[Peach]

Hey, that pay that. You know what I'm saying? I like that, though. I like going to see my friends at working. Like, yeah, I'm one of those people. Like, if I go to your job, like, you work here, I'm gonna make sure I pay. Like, don't. Don't give me no discount. I'm gonna pay the full price. Should have you work here.

[Damani]

And then Mitch had had a few on her story before I got there. She's like, where you want to sit? I was like, sit me next to the people that was on your story just because they seem to be your friends. That's the only. That's the only reason why I wanted to say. He's like, oh, they left. And I was like, well, that's why I came.

[Peach]

Yeah, nothing worse than when you go to the party looking for the girl that's on the flyer. She ain't on the flyer. Like, she ain't even there. That's like, we don't even know that girl.

[Damani]

Mean, Rihanna's not here.

[Peach]

Like, Rihanna's not here tonight.

[Damani]

N. Those used to Be the funniest. Like club and party flyers where they

[Peach]

just throw any celebrity, any pretty model just on there. It's like, yo, shorty, not here. Like, n. F. I don't even know who that woman is. But we are back sponsored by Boost MO Unlimited talk, text and data.

[Damani]

Absolutely. Did you do anything at all this weekend?

[Peach]

No, I kept it light this weekend. I ain't do much this weekend, man. I was chilling. I was going to go to the movies to see. What's that movie? I said I wanted to see it. Not. Not Scream 7, the other movie. So I think it's another scary movie. I forgot the name of it, but I was gonna go see that. But then I. I just chilled in the house, watched a few games. That was it. I ain't even watch this weekend. Okay. When you called me, I was like, already, like, settled in for the night. I was like, get dressed and go uptown. I was like, nah, man, let me sit in the house and chill. So that's what I did.

[Damani]

Yeah, I didn't stay too long, but I rarely have time to go out, so I figured I'd go. Go support and hang out for a little bit.

[Peach]

Watch the good movie on Netflix, War Machine. I don't know if y' all saw that yet.

[Rory]

I haven't.

[Peach]

War Machine. Good. It's a good movie. Definitely. Check that out on Netflix. War Machine was a really good.

[Rory]

What is it about?

[Peach]

So it's this. This range. This guy, he's training to be a ranger. Army Ranger. But then, like, some crazy happens and they think that they're on, like, because they. Initially they were sent into, like, it was part, like, the last test to become a ranger. And then some crazy shit ends up happening. They think it's part of, like, the drill and the test. Come to find out it's like a killing machine that, like, crash landing on earth that they happen to run into in the middle of the woods. And like, now they gotta like. Like, they're not even like, real rangers yet. You know what I'm saying? So now they gotta use tactics. They gotta become like rangers on the spot for real and, like, try to get back to the base. Like, it's a good movie, though.

[Damani]

I see Dennis Quaid is in it. Yeah, I'm always here for Dennis Quaid. He always plays a good father figure in every movie.

[Peach]

You know, he was a general.

[Damani]

Definitely pulls one guy aside and makes him his son.

[Peach]

Yeah, Dennis Quaid ain't running around doing stunts no more those days old.

[Damani]

He's gonna have a concerned Face while looking at the data y entire time.

[Peach]

Exactly.

[Damani]

I am caught up with paradise.

[Rory]

Spoiler alert. Please fast forward 5 minutes if you want to skip. Talk about paradise and spoilers.

[Damani]

All the way caught up.

[Peach]

All the way caught up.

[Damani]

Yes.

[Peach]

So you been.

[Damani]

Well, not. Not including the episode that comes out today.

[Peach]

Came out last night.

[Damani]

Last night. I didn't see that one.

[Peach]

So you.

[Rory]

You're on four? You watched up to four?

[Damani]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Okay.

[Peach]

You watched the first season? Okay.

[Damani]

Yeah. You know what's so funny? When you guys talk about paradise. I completely forgot I watched the. The first season.

[Peach]

Okay.

[Damani]

And then I went. I was like, oh, they keep talking about paradise. I was like, oh, wait, I love the show.

[Peach]

Yeah.

[Damani]

Yeah. I didn't even know season two came up, but. Yeah, but I binged season two. I was in the beginning. I was like, all right, how many flashbacks are we going to fucking do? But they're tying it together with all the flashbacks. Yeah, I like what they're doing. I was a little nervous on episode one. It was like, all right, man, what do we. What are we doing? Yeah, I knew. I knew shorty was going to get pregnant, though. Yeah, that was the. I was like, how irresponsible would it be to fuck at a time like this?

[Peach]

Great, great.

[Rory]

And not pull out. I feel like you should pull out. Whatever, but at least pull up.

[Peach]

The world is in it. Nah, leave that in there. For what? Pulling out for what we all about to die for? What was what? What?

[Rory]

I ain't gonna lie. If I was him, I'd have left that baby with them. With them people.

[Damani]

Listen. And all right, I don't care. Spoiler alerts. You know how pissed off I'd be if I met a stranger and then the next day they dumped a newborn baby on me? Like, you selfish son of God.

[Peach]

No, but I mean, in the scheme of what was going on, it makes sense, though. Like, everybody has to, like, just.

[Damani]

Well, throwing a newborn into modern society right now can be a monkey wrench. What they're going through him trying to get to Atlanta. Here's a newborn baby.

[Rory]

Well, it's the type of man he is. Like, I don't think they would do that, like, with you because you would obviously not want that. But he even taking the baby with him. Like, anybody else would have dropped that baby off. He like, nah, I got it. That's just the type of dude he was. I done left my baby with him too.

[Peach]

Well, he promised he would take the baby to the father.

[Damani]

Yeah. Yeah. Cuz if. If the father wasn't going to Colorado. I'm sure he probably would have left that baby with. With the people at the house. Yeah. Cuz there's no way you just getting on a horse with a newborn and you. You can't even provide milk.

[Peach]

We just spoiled it. For everybody that has not seen it. We just.

[Rory]

We're gonna put a big spoiler alert. Peach mark that. That we're gonna put a spoiler alert before we say that.

[Peach]

All right, cool.

[Damani]

I mean, I do feel like if we put out episodes four times a week, like just. Just keep up with the shows. I don't want to wait six weeks to then talk about episode four.

[Peach]

Yeah, and they spacing out the drops just like every once a week. So. Yeah, you should be caught up on paradise by now.

[Damani]

But either way, amazing show. And I like the cliffhanger. Did you guys watch the episode that came out last night?

[Peach]

Yeah, I did.

[Rory]

No, I didn't.

[Damani]

Oh, they left us on a little cliffhanger.

[Peach]

Oh, wait till you. Wait till you watch episode five.

[Damani]

When homie was like, your wife's my partner. I was like, oh, she has a weird. She has a weird range of types.

[Rory]

That's what you're thinking about. Not, oh my God, she's missing this. Like, nah, she moved on. Like, don't.

[Damani]

And if you. My wife. Don't call her your partner. I've been your wife. Though. He was going, what you want for me?

[Rory]

That's. No, he said it the right way. He said it in the most respectful way he could.

[Damani]

Well, I didn't know because the cliffhanger, when he was saying part, I didn't know if he meant, like, that's my Maul's my partner. Like, that's.

[Peach]

You gotta watch how you say that.

[Damani]

But that's what I'm saying. It left it open ended Very, very. And I thought because of his appearance, they were trying to make us think, like, nah, she wouldn't him. So that must be like that. No, they must be the partner to save the world or something.

[Rory]

Yeah, no, you could tell that. That romantically.

[Peach]

Very different times, though. I can't say Rory's my partner. Can't say that.

[Damani]

There has to be context.

[Peach]

That's a co host.

[Damani]

According to the irs, we are.

[Peach]

No, we're. We're business associates. Not even partners. We can't put partners in there. I'm telling y' all are.

[Damani]

I can't believe I'm about to. What are we. We're right now.

[Peach]

We're teammates.

[Damani]

We are much more than associates.

[Rory]

Associate. We Are business associates.

[Peach]

We're teammates.

[Damani]

Fit.

[Peach]

We're not teammates. Mike and Scotty. No, we're not.

[Rory]

That y' all own.

[Peach]

Okay? Mike and Steve Kerr.

[Damani]

No, no, damn. We. We are whoever owned the Bulls and whoever had the other 50% of it.

[Peach]

Okay?

[Rory]

Y' all are business partners, co owners.

[Peach]

This partner sound.

[Damani]

And if I'm in a rush, I'm gonna say partner.

[Peach]

Ah, see, it sounds nasty. It sounds like me and him.

[Rory]

But back in the day, he said, my partner. My partner.

[Peach]

I never said that.

[Damani]

TI still says that.

[Rory]

Yeah. My partner.

[Peach]

Them t. I still says, like, three

[Damani]

stacks and big boy are partners for sure.

[Peach]

Are they partners? Exactly.

[Damani]

Those.

[Peach]

Those partners right there.

[Damani]

But yeah. All right, well, don't spoil that, because I do want to watch what I took from that. That they, like, were working on science together. Like, because he put a bunch of things before. Like, that's my. That's my people, but it's also my partner.

[Peach]

Keep watching. It gets.

[Damani]

Also, that's bold to. Like when a husband comes with a gun, a newbor, a horse at. At sundown, and you just walk out like, yo, I'm your wife.

[Peach]

He didn't say.

[Rory]

That's not what he said.

[Damani]

But that's what y' all are saying.

[Peach]

That's what. No, that's what you were saying that happened.

[Damani]

I. I think they're science lab partners. I don't think they're.

[Peach]

I think they're just people who, you know, are relying on each other. When the world was in a crazy space fair, they would.

[Damani]

They were trauma bonding.

[Peach]

Yeah. They needed each other to kind of make it through. That's all. But great, great show. If you are not watching Paradise, I don't know what you're watching right now, but definitely the best show on TV right now.

[Damani]

Should we stay on the TI subject? It's never going away more, I'm sorry to say.

[Rory]

Well, TI Movies, tv, kind of same. It all rolls into one. It's a good segue.

[Peach]

Yeah. Ti's been. He's been. He's had his hand in all three of those lanes before, right?

[Damani]

Yeah. Yeah, for sure. I think I'm gonna answer this question myself. It's kind of a vain question. Do you think the Internet hates me or loves Damani?

[Rory]

I think they love Damani.

[Damani]

Okay. I'm just curious.

[Peach]

Wait, why did you ask that, though?

[Damani]

Because he said I can't love demani this much.

[Rory]

Because he's self centered.

[Damani]

That's why we was playing around with the 50. I have a 50 bias. And that clip went. Went Sort of viral. I did not know that. Like, what. What's his barbs? Because he has barbs.

[Rory]

He does.

[Damani]

Or unless y' all just really hate me that much. No, it's just Domaniacs.

[Peach]

Domainiacs.

[Damani]

Peach is hilarious. They're definitely the Domainia. Yo, get the Domainiacs out of my maniac.

[Rory]

See, that's so lame

[Peach]

with the Domainiac.

[Rory]

But. But Rory, you hate and still. Like, it's like it's in your heart. Like, you don't even.

[Damani]

I like the money.

[Peach]

No, you.

[Rory]

You keep trying to convince us of that.

[Damani]

Like, I'm not quite a demoniac, but I think he's a good rapper.

[Peach]

No, I'm a demoniac. I'm jacking it.

[Rory]

You even. You even asking. Does the Internet just hate me, like. Or do they really like Damani? Why can't you just understand that people disagree with you on his first. People disagree with you?

[Damani]

Oh, no.

[Peach]

People hate them, though. We can say that, too. People hate him.

[Rory]

That's fine. But that's not.

[Damani]

What. If that was the response, I would completely. I wish we could go back to a world where we just go, you know what? We disagree on music. And then we can continue on with our lives.

[Peach]

Oh, no, that world is gone. That world is long gone.

[Damani]

The demaniacs are on some KBOT OV Ho type shit right now. Like, I did not expect to get the same amount of backlash just by saying it was a diet Meet the Cramps.

[Rory]

It's not just a Meet the Grams. Cause you said it was a diet Meet the Grams. You were very obviously hating. Like, you were very obviously hating, and people called you out on being a hater.

[Damani]

Why can't we just, like, have fun anymore? Was that really. Do you think I was really. The way Damani was losing sleep. Do you think I was really losing sleep?

[Rory]

He's doing it. He can't help it.

[Damani]

Peach.

[Rory]

He can't help it.

[Peach]

Is it Hayden, or is it just he hated the song?

[Damani]

I didn't hate the song.

[Peach]

Okay. Did you hate the type of song? Like, the energy of the song, like. Cause you said diet. What? Meet the Grams diet.

[Rory]

He was like, this is. And he didn't just say, this is a. This is. You know, it's Meet the Grams esque.

[Peach]

This.

[Rory]

Some. Diet. Diet Meet the Grams is a direct quote.

[Damani]

Yeah. No, I said that. No, I. 100%.

[Peach]

Hey, but look, though, what's wrong?

[Damani]

I have to tiptoe on eggshells about talking about Damani's music. I can't just joke around our Podcast.

[Rory]

You don't have to tip on eggshells, but he did a good job. He's getting eyes that he never had before. And people called you out on being a hater, but you're Mr. Purist Hip Hop and always want some new. We have no talent. New hip hop shit. You got Baby D. You got some pure hip hop.

[Peach]

This how you start acting when it's.

[Damani]

I don't like to be misrepresented because I said 2025 was one of the best years of hip hop that we've had in a really long time. I think there's a lot of amazing talent. I went through every single verse on the radar freestyle of the new generation. I think there's plenty of great new hip hop right now. So please do not try to paint me as that person that thinks hip hop is in some terrible space right now. I think there's plenty of great artists, including Demani, but because I think he's talented, he should still be on the same fucking level of critique.

[Rory]

That's fine.

[Damani]

We critique. We just critiqued Bruno Mars. Now we can't critique Damani.

[Rory]

Fight back. That's fine because.

[Damani]

I'm sorry, should we treat him special? Should we put him over here and.

[Peach]

He's.

[Damani]

He's above any critique. He's above me cursing. He's above a joke. He's above me having a 50 bias.

[Rory]

No, it has nothing.

[Peach]

It's because Damani's a nepo, baby.

[Rory]

It had. No, it's not even that. The barely has fans.

[Damani]

Wait, I thought you said.

[Rory]

No, that's not what I said. That's not what I said. And that's what you're seeming to miss. Construe. You're trying to make it out like it's his fans calling you a hater and giving him backlash. He doesn't even have a big enough fan base. These are casual fans, so they hate

[Damani]

me and don't like, Let me talk.

[Rory]

These are casual fans of hip hop that are telling you that you're hate. Peach is not a Damani fan. Peach came in here.

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How do you know that?

[Rory]

The diss is fire. Everybody agreed that the diss is fire. The reason why you got so much backlash is because you are one of the only people who downplayed the diss. A bunch of casual fans said, oh, I didn't know about Damani. This is fire. It's not just his super fans critiquing you. It's not.

[Damani]

I, I, I.

[Rory]

It's okay to be on the wrong side of History. Just sit on the wrong side of history.

[Daniel Cormier]

Wrong side of history.

[Rory]

Just sit

[Peach]

Wrong side of history.

[Damani]

There will be Russia, Ukraine, Palestine and Israel. Damani and Curtis Jackson. What side will you be on at the end of the day?

[Peach]

The wrong side of history.

[Damani]

What side was Lindsay Graham on?

[Peach]

Yo, the wrong side of history is crazy.

[Rory]

It's okay to be wrong, baby.

[Damani]

You hate me. Okay, see how. Why can't you quote everything? Yes, I did say this is some diet Meet the Grams. Can you also say the other quote where I said Damani can rap and this is good?

[Peach]

He did say that. To be fair, he did say that.

[Damani]

Actually, this a good D. They only hear.

[Peach]

They only hit when you say you don't like it or.

[Rory]

The negative thing about that means nothing coming from Rory. Because whenever Rory hates or critiques something, he starts because he doesn't want to piss everybody off. He starts with, well, let me just say that, you know, this is just my opinion, and they're great and shout out to them, and I appreciate everything they do for the culture, but followed by hate every time.

[Peach]

But why is it. This is my thing. Why is it considered hate, though?

[Rory]

Nah, you was hating the way.

[Peach]

I didn't even say nothing about it.

[Rory]

The way Rory came in, it was hate. Like, the way Rory came in, it was hate. And if Damani was dissing anybody else, that wouldn't have been the team that he chose.

[Damani]

All right, I do admit my bias.

[Peach]

I promise you, money. Yeah, yeah.

[Rory]

Like. And that's okay. That's okay.

[Peach]

He's still with the tank tops. The G Unit tank tops.

[Damani]

Well, first of all, the. They're. They fit very well. They're great to work on. Some shits was always ugly, crazy, craziest blank of all time. Where did they find that white feeder blank?

[Peach]

Oh, my God. I can't believe we're talking about Damani.

[Damani]

No, I. I honestly, even though I have a 50 bias, my biases really don't bleed over into this podcast the way you may think. I. He really could have been dissing anyone. I would have said, this is some eth. The Graham and which peach left out of that clip. Look, you even agreed when I said. All right, so you think when Damani and all his people came in the studio, he didn't say, yo, I got him on some Meet the Graham shit in his space park?

[Rory]

No, I did not agree with you. I said somebody in the studio might have compared it. But I did not agree. He said that Maul did.

[Peach]

I mean, if Meet the Grams didn't exist, and we heard that it's like, okay, that's hard, but Meet the Grams exist. That's the only things. Was kind of like, okay, I prefer

[Rory]

that over Meet the Grams, though. Meet the Grims was one of my least favorite songs out of that deal, out of that battle. Okay, I prefer that over mediagrams. But anyway, Damani has come. 50 Cent responded, right? So we lost our bet. We thought 50 Cent wasn't gonna respond.

[Damani]

Yeah.

[Peach]

Did you respond, or was it like a. Just a cool way of kind of like. It wasn't a full response?

[Rory]

No, it wasn't a full response, but he. He responded.

[Peach]

It was a bar.

[Damani]

He responded the way.

[Peach]

It was a bar.

[Damani]

He responded the way 50 would reply, which is something that's gonna benefit my business. 50 writes the intros for. For all the Power series. He got Leon Thomas on the new Power that's about to come out. And 50 replied, you could probably tell that he wrote that. And then was like, you know what? We're gonna add in four bars real quick to a song that I already cut. He said, your daddy made your mama eat every box in Atlanta. So that is a reply. And in 50 fashion, I know he's thinking his diss is going to play every week on a streaming service now, but, I mean, we know. We know Damaris is going to go back to the Damani diss every day. It'll have a lot of replay value, but this will be on TV every week.

[Peach]

It was a clever, clever way of doing it. It wasn't a full song dedicated, because I. I think that he even posted something, was it yesterday, saying that I'm never. You said, I'm not entertaining or making no songs or some shit like that. Whatever. 50 posted. So this was a clever way of doing it. It was a clever way. Like, y' all gonna power. People gonna watch it every. Every week. You gonna hit the theme song. We know when Power first came out, that theme song, it was a Joe. No.

[Rory]

They said, this is a big wish time. I think it was originally Trey, and

[Damani]

then it ended up being Joe, and then they put Trey on it.

[Rory]

Oh, okay.

[Damani]

That week, everyone said no. The following week, they put Joe back on the shit.

[Peach]

So people know that the Power intro song is, you know, everybody's gonna watch a big show. Everybody's gonna watch it. So this was a very clever way of responding but not dedicating an entire, like, moment and giving somebody that light and sharing the stage with somebody. So I liked it. I was like, okay, that was. That was clever. I didn't anticipate 50 doing that, but that was very clever.

[Damani]

Here's where I'm gonna prove you guys wrong with my bias. I understood 50 not replying to TI and all his kids. Like, 50 has not been thinking about music for quite some time. He only pops up to do intros and shit. But if you're going to put something, we're gonna throw a little shot in your power intro and then also put out a record with Max B the following day. You're active, you got seven people shooting at you. I don't know if a line is gonna get it done. I know 50 doesn't give a fuck. This is me just talking. As a fan. I'm on the side of either really reply or just be quiet or just troll on the end. Like just troll on IG like you always do. Cause now you rapping. Like, Damani put out a record right after. And I think he had every right

[Peach]

pull up 50s last last post on Instagram. I mean, it might not be the

[Damani]

last post, but while I did like his meet Meet the Jacksons, I did not like Damani's reply to 50s shot.

[Peach]

Damani replied already.

[Rory]

He replied immediately.

[Damani]

As he should though, because 50 started, but at this point, like, don't even, don't halfway step in the ring. I think it's funny that this is gonna play on TV for weeks on weeks on weeks. But. And you got Leon Thomas, one of the biggest R and B artists right now on it. Like it was a good move, but everyone else has been rapping, man. You can't just throw one little shot.

[Peach]

He said, I'm sorry. No response to retarded ass rappers who can't write a hit to save their lives. Moving right along. Short but shorty. So I mean, you know, that's what 50 he's letting you know right there. Like, I'm not, I'm not entertaining that. I'm not giving nobody a stage to perform on and let them try to stand in front of me and battle and all of this. Like, that's not where 50 is at. Like, you know, and he's making it clear. So this, this was a clever way of.

[Damani]

That's hate.

[Peach]

What?

[Damani]

That can't write a hit. That's hate. You gotta say that Demonic has a hit.

[Rory]

Let it go, Rory.

[Damani]

I love messing with the man.

[Peach]

I didn't even know what he was talking about. Like I was trying to win.

[Rory]

Like, he just won't let it go.

[Damani]

You're not allowed. No, you gotta say Demoni has a hit. You Know that King hit.

[Rory]

That's.

[Damani]

Hey, you not allowed to say that. Yo. 50's a hater, though.

[Rory]

Rory. Hate when people don't agree with him. Like, when the Internet don't agree with

[Damani]

him and bother him ever agrees with me.

[Rory]

He can't sleep at night like Damani. Like, when the Internet don't agree with him.

[Damani]

Sometimes I. I think about it, if my opinion died in vain.

[Peach]

Oh, my God, man. Wow.

[Damani]

I swear to God, I'm really just messing around.

[Peach]

No, I know. I'm not. I don't think none of this shit's serious.

[Damani]

Oh. But, yeah, I think this is over. I don't. I don't think 50 is going to reply. I think he said his piece put out a record with Max B. I don't think Damani is going to keep going. I think King is done. Even TI Didn't TI Say he had to discipline his kids to be like, yo, stop doing that shit with the. With his mom on the shirts?

[Rory]

Oh, I didn't see that.

[Damani]

I think even TI Was like.

[Rory]

I think he did say that he didn't know. He didn't know that his kids had all these response. Oh, Damani said that his dad didn't know that his kids had these responses planned.

[Damani]

And then I saw King that had. It was a weed brand or something with Sabrina's picture on there. Like, whatever. I mean, you're allowed to reply. You didn't start the shit. 50 did. So it is what it is. But I think this is finally. I think this is the last episode we'll be covering.

[Peach]

I hope this is the last episode that we'll be covering from the T.I. the Harris family versus Harris versus the Jackson. Yeah, I hope this is the last one. Like, I get it. It was a cool, you know, all right, all right. That was cool. But. But it's not. People don't really want to see this. People don't really.

[Rory]

So who's the real winner out of all of this?

[Damani]

Damani.

[Rory]

The money is. I think the money is absolutely. And I don't even. When I say winner, I don't mean winner, because it wasn't really a battle. I mean, like, who benefited the most from this? I think it was Damani. I think it introduced him to a W. People now know how dope he is, and I like that.

[Damani]

Also, TI I mean, TI Has a. A big record out right now. He's about to put out an album. Even though he said that he didn't plan on doing this. This wasn't part of rollout. It Definitely brought more attention.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Damani]

So I mean the Harris's did win, but also 50 did too. Even though Leon Thomas is already on that record. And of course it was going to be somewhat of a thing. It was bigger because he said that your daddy major.

[Rory]

I would have never heard that song elsewise. I would have never know there was a powers origins coming out elsewise.

[Damani]

Oh, there's a big group of people that do like are any power book that comes out? Oh yeah, Power is super popular and the intro is always a really big deal as well.

[Peach]

And along the low T. I can't even respond to that bar.

[Damani]

I mean, if it's because it's kind of like. If it's conceptual, that's a stat to me.

[Peach]

No, but I get the bar.

[Rory]

Me too.

[Damani]

That's the first thing I talk. If it's all consensual, that's a stat.

[Peach]

No, but listen, I get it. But he ain't say ti name. He just said your mama. Your daddy had your mama eat every box in Atlanta. That's all he said.

[Damani]

Well, who do you think he was referring to?

[Peach]

It don't matter who I think he was referring to. If I'm t, I can't be like, hey, nah. I say now I can't go, oh yeah.

[Damani]

It's kind of bulletproof of like. Yeah, yeah.

[Peach]

It's like the way 50 barred that. It was like, bro, if you jump out there and respond to that like you just. It's like you waiting anything that may be directed towards you, you jumping on it. Like he didn't. That wasn't like tailored for ti. That could be anything.

[Rory]

That was.

[Peach]

That could be part of the power origin.

[Rory]

The yet that had nothing to do with the rest of the song. Like he threw that in there. We all knew.

[Damani]

You think he's talking to Tommy?

[Peach]

I'm just saying. I'm just saying you don't. We don't know.

[Rory]

We do know ma.

[Peach]

And that could be a character in Power Origins. In Power Origins that you know was moving weight in Atlanta. Yeah, we don't know yet. The show didn't come out. So that's what I'm saying. T. I, you, you gotta. That's like. That's why that's very like slick. Very witty of 50 to do it that way way cuz it's like if you jump out there and jump at that bar, you just. You just itching for. For a moment. Like now it's looking like ifm you just thirsty for a moment now, cuz that. That could be for anybody. I get the optics of it, but that could be.

[Damani]

For. I didn't know you're trolling right now, but come on.

[Peach]

I'm just saying it could be, though.

[Damani]

It's not.

[Peach]

He didn't. I'm, I'm just saying we don't know if I'm TI I wouldn't jump at that.

[Damani]

Oh, no, I'm with you on the point of. It's kind of. If you reply to it, then it's like, okay, so did you.

[Rory]

There's no point. There's no point in replying. But we all know who he's talking. That isn't like some hidden rumor that people don't know. That's a well known document, legally documented thing like that.

[Peach]

Just saying. He can't jump out there and respond to that.

[Damani]

He already said he was chilling. Yeah, I don't deal with everything.

[Peach]

All right, well.

[Rory]

And the bar wasn't to TI the bar was to Damani. It was a distance.

[Damani]

Yeah, but it's about his dad.

[Rory]

It's about his dad. But it's a. It wasn't. He wasn't addressing TI but. Yeah, I get it.

[Damani]

But no, I, I, I think they, they were the winners out of this entire thing of, of who got the most notoriety. Yeah, I'm, I'm with you there, but I mean, now follow up with some music. Yeah, and King can follow up with some IG videos. Like, dude, get it how you live, man.

[Rory]

Yeah, Damani, we want to, we want to hear from you. I can't speak for the rest of these hating ass niggas, but we want to hear. We want to hear more from you.

[Peach]

Who's these hating ass niggas?

[Rory]

If you not a hating ass nigga, don't jump out at that bar.

[Peach]

I'm not jumping. I asked a question. I said, who's these hating ass niggas?

[Rory]

Yeah, anybody?

[Peach]

Oh, okay. I thought you sound like you was Taylor Suitness.

[Rory]

No, no. Anybody?

[Peach]

Okay.

[Rory]

Power Universe.

[Peach]

That's what's up the money.

[Damani]

Got a lot of haters out here.

[Peach]

Yeah, and a lot of fake supporters. A lot of fake supporters want to hear you now, too, Damani.

[Damani]

That's the other thing. Yo, everyone that was in. In my. All right. When he dropped a single, I Better See flame emojis. His IG that better go platinum.

[Peach]

You better be streaming that as soon as the money drop. Yeah, too soon as the money drop.

[Rory]

You gonna stream it. Wait. And hate.

[Peach]

Wait, no, no. We want to hear, we want to hear what Damani's doing.

[Damani]

All right? See, I can be honest with my hate. If King drops something. Yeah, I would be sitting there waiting to hate because King makes me laugh. Damani, I think is a good rapper. I'm not waiting to hate. I hope it's good. King is funny to me. Like I want to see. I want to see King give us some more. And like everyone else, where Major at?

[Rory]

Yo, Major is Major. Makes like soul, old school, like soul country music. No, that's. No, sorry, wrong brother. They have an older brother that makes Buddy Red. Buddy Red makes like soul.

[Damani]

That's a soul.

[Peach]

Last name is Major. Is Major making music too?

[Rory]

No, I don't think Major makes music.

[Damani]

He in real estate or something?

[Peach]

Something like that. Hopefully you know he's good and shout out to the entire Harris family. Hopefully all of them are doing well as well.

[Damani]

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[Peach]

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[Damani]

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[Peach]

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[Rory]

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[Damani]

Continuing on to more family beef. We got a almost 7 minute record from SCI High, the good music breakup where he broke down the entire lineage history, every single member and his relationship with them.

[Peach]

Elite bars,

[Damani]

the last three records. This I put out is the greatest example of elite rapping that I've seen in quite some time. There's a different level of. You don't even realize how good he's rapping on this.

[Peach]

It's different, man. It's different. It's levels to MCing. It's levels to writing. There's levels to rapping. Saha is right there. I just hate. That's my. I just hate. He don't put out enough material to be in the rest of these conversations because a lot of these that y' all be saying is dope and nice. These is not that they just got material. And I, you know, I understand it as they putting out work, but. But Saha is definitely a lot better than all of these rappers that y' all love.

[Damani]

Demer, I noticed your. Your chin got a little tight when we were complimenting the rap ability of Sah the principal.

[Rory]

No, I didn't.

[Damani]

Okay.

[Rory]

I have nothing against Sahai. He's a really good writer.

[Damani]

Did you listen to the record?

[Peach]

Not that hate.

[Damani]

Yeah, no, it felt.

[Rory]

Y' all keep trying to make me

[Peach]

call the hate out. We call 70 degrees. We call.

[Rory]

I'm not hating getting out. Y' all keep trying to make me, y'. All. I'm not y'.

[Peach]

All.

[Rory]

Like, I'm not a hater.

[Peach]

You a hater who I hate. They got you big hating last year. They caught you in hda.

[Rory]

Nah, I was being a good producer and making y' all show better. I wasn't hating. I wasn't hating. Let's.

[Damani]

Let's really be real.

[Rory]

Let's really be real around here. I took the fall, but I did what I had to do in a moment of importance.

[Damani]

She fell on the sword.

[Rory]

Let's just be honest.

[Damani]

Let's be real. I'll give her. Okay, yeah, I'll allow some of. Some of that. But let's not act like peas didn't take you out of context to really make it go viral.

[Rory]

Exactly. But I ate that. But I ate that. I ate that.

[Damani]

What else was you supposed to Do.

[Rory]

But I ate that.

[Damani]

It was out already. What could you do?

[Rory]

The. I ate that even though giggled and

[Damani]

laughed and I went to defend you and then really fell on a sword.

[Rory]

Giggled and laughed even though they knew it was out of context. You know, laughing emojis Times 10.

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But we.

[Rory]

We. We moved past that as a family.

[Damani]

Clear. I forgot about the laughing. No more was foul for that.

[Rory]

We moved past that as a.

[Damani]

That was you? Yeah. You was laughing like that. I was.

[Peach]

I'm laughing again.

[Rory]

Like, we moved past that as a family, but, you know, I'm a hater.

[Peach]

Yo.

[Damani]

Behind, close, though, we're like the Harrisons. We got to move as a unit in the public eye.

[Peach]

Yo, that's mad funny. Oh, my bad. I'm sorry. I'm back.

[Damani]

But no, I feel like sometimes there's a little side. I hate. The last two records we talked about, you kind of was like, all right.

[Rory]

Oh, I'm sorry. Would y' all like me to, like, hit my knees? Like, I. It's good. Like, I'm not. I don't like. Sci High is good. I've never said he was bad. Saiha's good.

[Damani]

Okay, where do we want to start? We'll start with. With me popping it off.

[Peach]

Yo.

[Rory]

Hey, yo, that was crazy.

[Damani]

I popped the record off.

[Rory]

It's pause worthy.

[Damani]

It's definitely pause worthy. Yeah, I got Saha in that mode. I don't even think he was gonna do this until I asked that question. Question,

[Rory]

for sure. No. Yeah, definitely.

[Damani]

Yo, you want to know how stupid I am? It took me to the third listen to realize that I was on the intro. I listened to it three times and didn't realize that that was me.

[Peach]

I can see that on the. On the unlocked. And listening like that to just talking, rapping.

[Damani]

On the. On the first one, I heard me ask that question and thought to myself, that's a good question.

[Rory]

I would ask that idiot.

[Damani]

No, I'm not making. I was like, I. I wonder what Saha's top five albums are on. Good music.

[Peach]

That's funny.

[Damani]

Yeah, that was from. From our interview BET Awards, probably when we were in Atlanta maybe two, three years ago when we interviewed Saha. No, I didn't call that one in. That was from a new Orie Mall episode.

[Peach]

Oh, yeah, yeah. Yes.

[Damani]

Yeah.

[Rory]

I call that one in his math.

[Peach]

Funny. I remember now. Yes, yes. Good conversation.

[Damani]

But, I mean, he. He starts it out with. Before you go down this lane, make sure your soul is trained. One of the hardest bars I've heard. When he started the Record that was like, oh, okay, I see what time we're on. So Gina asked questions about each artist, but the first verse is more so I think just given kind of a back history. I never knew that he was supposed to be on Watch the Throne. I can understand why he was taken off of it. He's allowed to feel away. But I can see them going like, listen, it's Frank and Beyonce, and we don't really want any rap features. It's supposed to be Jay and Kanye. I can see that one. And be like, I get it if there's some other rap features in there.

[Peach]

Yeah, that makes sense.

[Damani]

But it's B and Frank. We're just not doing that right now. Because if that's the case, we gotta get Sean. We gotta get all this. I would like to know more about him being taken off of Detroit too.

[Peach]

Yeah, yeah.

[Damani]

Which he does get into his relationship with Sean. But to me, that. That was. That was very odd because I highly doubt it was a bad verse.

[Peach]

Oh, Saha does not. Is not giving you a bad verse.

[Damani]

But he. He was. He was a little vague on. On the Sean relationship because even. Even Gina came in after and said, I didn't think you and Big Sean got along very well. But I don't know. That's a weird relationship that I would actually like to ask. That's the only one I left this song not being clear on of really where he was at with Sean in that entire thing. Because I don't. Why the fuck would you be left off Detroit, too? Yeah, like you're just pulling my verse off that shit. Then he gets into Travis on the second verse. And this is why I fuck with Saha. His loyalty to shit that he even disagrees with. I. I highly respect. When you're with somebody or with somebody. Travis did develop a habit of letting everyone diss them.

[Peach]

That's hard. Like Barney like that. My Travis somehow developed a habit of letting diss us. I've never heard a rapper say that. Like, you developed a habit of letting niggas diss us. Like, rappers don't even like that. That's what I'm saying. With Saha, like, the way he, like, pinned shit. Like, just simple shit like that is what makes this nigga so ill. Now

[Damani]

I remember when everyone was killing Push during the Clips run because he dissed Travis on the Clips album. Then on interviews, was talking about it and was talking about when they were in Paris. He came to play the album, but didn't play Drake's verse, which I thought was Unfair because we found out later that that Drake verse was recorded the day before Travis album came out. There was no verse when he played that for Pharrell in the clips in Paris. But being somebody like Saha and Push, I can see them feeling a way of you playing both sides a little way. Like too much. I can understand be like, this is not my beef. But you'd be pollying crazy with both sides. This added even more to it. Cause I thought Push was being a little extra on it, but I understood it. But now that I can see, Saha is like, duh. You just keep letting people diss us on records with you. Like what the fuck are we doing at this point? How your biggest record you got Drake talking about pulling up to our man's crib.

[Peach]

He dropped.

[Damani]

No, that's your brother in law. Like your kids are cousins. Like what are we doing right now?

[Peach]

He dropped out the school of Donda and went and left for Degrassi. Like what he did in fashion this just look hella tacky. When I helped him with his album went like 11 platinum. But I still ain't get my swap. And he mad that I'm even asking. Yeah, man, I get it.

[Damani]

Is Sicko Mode Travis's biggest record? I don't know the station, but I would assume definitely. I mean, Travis has a lot of. There's a goosebumps. I'm sure there's a lot. But Sickle Mode is like diamond. If I did all that writing for you because Astroworlds. I remember when Astroworld came out, you and I both could pick the songs that we knew Saha penned. And then we looked at the credits and were right about everything. Like you could tell that Saha was writing this shit.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Damani]

I think it's a little weird because I've seen Travis give. Give verses, beats, swaps to a lot of artists that have done nothing for him or aren't even at a level that they could get a Travis verse. So to not give Saha one, I would. I would definitely feel away.

[Peach]

Yeah.

[Damani]

And you. And I'm writing a record for you and then you get Drake on the to to diss us. That's like you're being played. Like Drake is playing you. Right. Or he's not and that's your man's and you're giggling with him.

[Peach]

Yeah. I mean in that type of scenario, in that situation, it can get a little like little sticky. Cause it's like obviously this is the home team and you know Drake and ye have their little back and forth so if he's throwing shots at ye on your song, it does look crazy. But what you gonna say, like, nah, Drake don't say that.

[Damani]

Well, I mean, that's why I think side killers. If I got a verse from Drake, I'd be hella happy. But I can't let him dis bro on the shit. It would probably never happen.

[Rory]

Travis might say that Si High's loyalty is what has been keeping his career

[Damani]

down for so long, which he gets to with when he gets to the Push verse of just how they grew up. And that's the only shit. When we sat with Pusha T, we questioned some of that, and he said, this is how I was raised. My loyalty just doesn't move the way maybe some of y' all does. But again, I understand Travis to some degree. It's not my beef. But. Nah, dog. Like, we're spending Thanksgiving together. Like, our. Our kids are cousins. This is. This isn't just like. Like, yo, we see each other at the club like that. That's a different level of family, in my opinion. But I know Travis doesn't really speak, but he's been accused of this by so many people within that circle. I would. I would like to hear his side of it. Not that we're owed that, but.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Damani]

Yeah. Why does everyone in that crew feel like you have been playing? Not even both sides, just that side. And you were supposed to be with us, and we've all helped your shit to the best of our ability. That's all.

[Peach]

Has Travis ever. Has he ever spoke about this?

[Damani]

No, not really.

[Peach]

Like, just, like, in general. Just, like. Like, you know, doing songs with Drake when obviously Drake and Yay.

[Rory]

I don't think he's ever spoken on it.

[Damani]

I mean, I think. I think Travis is kind of. Even though he is associated with good music and that, I mean, he does have his own crew. I. I don't know if he sits and hangs out with good music like that. I think Kanye.

[Peach]

Not anymore.

[Damani]

I think Kanye was an idol of his, and he. He definitely wanted to work with him, but, I mean, you know, he has his circle of kids. He grew up with Chase and everybody. Like, he has his crew. True. So I. I don't. Maybe he's viewing it like we're like, music associates. Maybe. I just think it's a little different when our kids are cousins, but maybe he's viewing it that way.

[Peach]

Yeah.

[Damani]

Like. Okay, sigh. I. I paid you. You got your pub. Like, I don't know if I owe you. Well, actually, no. Si said he Didn't.

[Peach]

It was a swap.

[Damani]

It was a swap. Yeah. He didn't even get any money.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Damani]

If I didn't get paid for sickle mode and you're not giving me a swap, I'm gonna feel away. No, I'm losing my mind. Like, Phil, like, of course he got pub on, but if you didn't even give me an upfront fee and we. Yeah, no, no. I can't write sickle mode for you and you don't give me a swap.

[Rory]

I'm not writing sickle mode and trying to get no swap. I want the money from that shit.

[Damani]

I don't know how you know he got pub. Yeah, no matter. Like, legally he has to get pub no matter what. He didn't like ghostwriter. He wrote it, but. And you not even give me some of the master on it. Yeah, yeah.

[Peach]

I ain't gonna lie.

[Damani]

Hell no.

[Peach]

Yeah, yeah. We might have a little issue, though. I ain't gonna lie.

[Rory]

A big issue. Fuck. A little one.

[Peach]

Yeah, yeah. I need my verse, homie.

[Damani]

And that's where this shit is kind of fucked up. Cause you probably in creative mode. Like, man, I just gave him. No, I shouldn't even have to ask you. Just thinking, like, no matter what, when I need something, Travis will be right there.

[Peach]

You would think so.

[Damani]

I know.

[Peach]

And you would think so.

[Damani]

Yeah.

[Peach]

But unfortunately we know that's not how this game, how this game goes. And the industry don't work like that all the time. No matter what your relationship is with people, you know, it's just not going to be the way you anticipate it going. It's always going to be some fuck shit going on.

[Damani]

Yeah.

[Peach]

That's just the music industry.

[Damani]

How did you feel about the Cudi verse? Verse three, Gina asked, what about the man on the moon? Si is not really speaking to his relationship with Cudi, but more so Kanye and Kid Cudi. If you guys do remember when Pete Davidson was dating Kim Kardashian. Pete and Cudi are close. And it appeared like Cudi had taken Pete's side in that entire thing and sigh, said, what if a dope fiend was around one of his kids buddies and their mama got hooked on it? I mean, I want to say that's not fair to say, but Pete Davidson has been very open with his drug abuse. And I don't think. I don't know Kim Kardashian, but I highly doubt that Kim was allowing drugs around her gift kids. But I see that point and I could see Kanye even in not excusing the mental state he was in at the time. And I think he was just mad that Pete was fucking his wife. But, yeah, I'd feel away if someone openly is talking about their drug use and is around my kids. And you getting my kids tattooed on you after a week, who's the mentally ill one here?

[Peach]

Right.

[Damani]

Granted, I think objectively, Kanye was also filled with jealous rage, which a lot of men would be. And he didn't handle that well. And I don't know if it's great to have somebody that is in a mentally ill state around their own children at certain times. I'm not saying Kanye was a saint in that, but. No, I would feel a fucking way that my man cuties, my man's. And you hanging with somebody that's getting my kids tattooed on their skin after a week of meeting them.

[Peach]

Yes. Lil Wayne a little. Yeah. It's weird.

[Damani]

I guess I view that drastically different. I like that side. Kept that very brief throughout the entire thing. Cause, yeah.

[Rory]

How would you feel going into the Pushaverse? How did you feel about that?

[Damani]

It was kind of what I expected, I suppose. I mean, again, us sitting with Push and questioning him about good music stuff and him talking about his pedigree and how he was raised, how he moves within the. That he doesn't expect everyone to move the same way he does based off the morals that were given to him in the situations that he was in. Didn't shock me that Saha and Push got together after the first three verses are nothing but artistry mess. We get to Push. He's like, that's my man.

[Rory]

Yeah, but that's. I feel like when it comes to artists and them being weird and creative, people be weird sometimes. And especially if they weren't raised in street environments, their loyalty and their outlooks on life do be weird and different. That's why the entertainment industry is so weird, because it's full of people who were never raised in certain ways that people like me and you are Mall or Pusha T and S were raised.

[Peach]

I mean, because even he spoke about that. He said our loyalty came from, you know, just being in the streets. Like, that's what they learned about loyalty. So, I mean, they share that. They share a lot of the same, you know, outlooks and. And views on certain things and certain things as men, we just don't, you know, sway on and, you know, it's just loyalty. It's honor, it's respect, it's integrity, morals and things like that. So, I mean, I wasn't expecting him to rap about Pusha and be saying anything other than, nah, we still fuck with each other. We still cool.

[Damani]

I did laugh, though, at Siha having, like, a fisherman sees another fisherman moment on tour when he realized Pusha T was bending his hangers like he was cooking up coke. Imagine being in the green room like, okay. Ah.

[Rory]

He no ball. Ah.

[Peach]

Oh, all right.

[Damani]

Yeah, yeah, No, I understand.

[Rory]

Yeah. But I'm happy to know that they do still have, like, a strong relationship.

[Damani]

Yeah. And again, that wasn't surprising to me. I would never think that Push ever charged for his verse on no dope on set. Like, I would never even think Push would. Would do that with home team. Like, yeah, all that. It's just funny. It was like a breath of fresh air halfway through the thing. Like, oh, this is how shit is supposed to look.

[Peach]

Y' all good?

[Rory]

Y' all good.

[Peach]

Y' all look good.

[Rory]

Cool, somebody.

[Damani]

Because when Gina said, I know you and Pusha T have a good relationship. Right? I was like, oh, God, no.

[Peach]

We about to hear something crazy.

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Holy shit.

[Peach]

No, listen, Saha, this is fire. I like the visual for it. Like, you know what I mean? Like, breaking that. Like, every bar, he giving the visual of the bar, you know, going. Whether it's a loaf of bread, whatever it is, I love that. All of that is fire. Saha, you my nigga. You know I love you. If we don't get a fucking album soon, like, come on, man, we need. I'm telling you, this is just a glimpse of what Saha does. This is easy for Saha. Yeah, this is nothing. This is like, Saha is really one of the greatest pins and greatest rappers that we have. Like, I'm just mad he don't have the material to back that. No Dope on Sundays. To me. To me. I'm not speaking for you or to me. Classic I said.

[Damani]

Just said last episode. It's a personal classic to me.

[Peach]

If he had. If he had two more albums out that. Let's not even say they was better than no Dope on Sundays. Let's say they was just either on par or a little less than no double, he would be in the same conversations with a lot of these other rappers and MCs as being the best out right now.

[Damani]

But in listening to this whole record, do you kind of see why he hasn't had the output that he's put up? Sometimes I felt like maybe it's something Sci High didn't want and he preferred because we mess up. He definitely has a. I want to be behind, like, he doesn't want to be in the limelight.

[Peach]

I don't want to deal with the mess of the music.

[Damani]

Yeah. Like, he wants to do his own,

[Peach]

but he's dealing with the mess of the business.

[Rory]

I was about to say. Don't say you don't want to deal with the mess of the music business. You dress. You dropped it.

[Damani]

I know. I'm saying more of the mess of, of fame and being out there, constantly being on the road. Like, I think sometimes he likes to just lay low, make his money. But you can see now all the insane shit that was happening behind the scenes that we could all assume we just didn't know. No one ever thought that good music was some well oiled working machine. We always knew there was some bullshit there, but I never knew exactly why Si High was not having the output that I felt that he should. Yeah. And I mean, it also goes back to being signed to somebody that's in the peak of their career. Like you going through the gift and the courage, all the albums and artists that he's talking about. Look at this timeline. Watch the Throne. My Beautiful Darts. Twisted Fantasy, Astroworld. Like, look at the projects that he's working on at this time. And I don't think good music had the biggest of staffs. And Def Jam got cut in half at that time. Like, nah, I don't, I don't know if anyone was putting Psy High as a priority outside of helping them with their shit.

[Peach]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Which goes back to my conversation about how I might understand Travis's disloyalty.

[Damani]

He had, I believe, a pub deal with good music, which again, he was helping Kanye, helping people out, but he put everything out through some. Like, he was never, he was never common, Big Sean, Sci High, Tiana, like that. That was never a thing. So my. On the loyalty side, to your point, I think it's more loyalty on friendship than it is loyalty because I'm signed to good music. Like, I've helped you on this. That's your kids. Like, to me it's more of a loyalty, friendship thing rather than anything good music, really. I thought the, the Virgil. The Virgil verse was, was interesting. And I don't want this to be a defend Kanye moment the way that some of this, this record came across. But one of my favorite Drake bars in Duppy Freestyle is. I'd never have a Virgil in my circle and hold him back because he makes me nervous. While that is just a battle bar, that is kind of how a lot of us felt when Virgil got the lv. Deal and how Kanye reacted to it, whereas we were assuming he was about to be really happy for his man's. And it came across as some jealousy shit, did it not?

[Peach]

Yeah, yeah, definitely.

[Damani]

And I think Kanye. And again, not excusing him, but Kanye has, I think, some difficulty, ironically, coming across the way he's thinking in his brain. This did give some insight of maybe how Kanye actually felt. He felt like LV may have been using Virgil in that instance when he was beefing with them. Also with Nike, when off white happened. And I don't know any of this, and I'm not going to ever speak, especially for somebody that has passed rest in peace to Virgil. Maybe this was really Kanye's point of view, and it did not come across that way.

[Peach]

It was just. It landed a little different.

[Damani]

It landed way differently that. Nah, they're using my friend. The anger is more towards LV than it would be to Virgil in that instance. And if I was Virgil in that time, I would feel like, aren't you supposed to be my. One of my best friends? You help me, but you're not even happy for me. Like, this is. I get announced as the first black man of the. What was his exact title? It was head of.

[Peach]

Yes.

[Damani]

Louis Vuitton Creative. Right.

[Peach]

It's the same role that Pharrell has now. Yeah.

[Damani]

Yeah. I always thought Kanye looked insane for that, but maybe this is really how he felt that they were using Virgil while he was beefing with them and just placed him there instead. And the same. Same with Nike. We've heard his. His. His back and forth with that. I'm not saying Kanye west is right. It's just a different perspective.

[Peach]

Did Saha say that? Was it Saha that said Kanye will tell you that he hates your sofa and then help you, like, decorate.

[Damani]

Decorate your whole house.

[Peach]

Decorate your. That's funny, though.

[Damani]

But. And this is why I'm gonna give some pushback to Saha. I do hate that Kanye says things that none of y' all won't like. He says the things you're thinking. Nah, that's not true. Everything Kanye said, I wasn't thinking in my head, and it was like, duh, I'm too scared to say it.

[Peach]

But see, that goes back to what we was talking about at the top. If you don't agree with something that's considered hate. You see what I'm saying? It's like, is it considered hate? Like, why can't I just be like, nah, I don't like your couch.

[Damani]

Oh, fair.

[Peach]

But I'mma Help you. That's the couch you like. All right, but then you gotta put this in here. You gotta dress up. You gotta have this type of carpet, this type of. These type of arts on your walls. You gotta put this type of lamp. And, like, so it's not. It may come across like, man, this nigga hating on my couch. Okay. But the nigga also did help you just deck your whole spot out now. The whole shit look different. It look. It's fly.

[Damani]

It's not hate. It's. I wanna help you.

[Peach]

Yeah. Like, it's not.

[Damani]

It comes from an Asburg.

[Peach]

I don't like what you just did with this couch.

[Damani]

But. But.

[Peach]

All right, cool. That's what you going with. All right, Let me. Let me help you out, though.

[Damani]

But that sounds. That sounds good. But, like, then you get to Gina saying, what do you say about Jay Z? I'm with you. If Kanye's talking about taste or certain things, cool. But Kanye's also said some insane things for sure about Jay and Beyonce's kids.

[Peach]

Oh, 100% things he could never come back from.

[Damani]

Yeah. And this was the only verse seven. I let the shit slide with the couch thing. And I know Si High obviously sees Kanye west in a way different space than all of us. He really knows him. We only see what we see. I've been around people deemed lunatics, and I'm like, no, if you get to know them, they're not even like that. That's just what you see. I can identify with that. So I'm cool. I'll let that slide. But then when Gina asked about the Jay Z shit and he said, yeah, I'm not a fan of it, but you see the way they was shitting on him back in the day. Nah, those things don't add up.

[Rory]

No,

[Damani]

nah, I. I appreciate that. Sai said, I'm not a fan of what he did to Jay. I don't think Sahai ever would be calling their kids. What Kanye said is, there's no defense on that. But. Nah. That I didn't watch the. What was it? The. Not Jesus. The thing on Netflix that Creative Control did. It was genius.

[Peach]

Genius.

[Damani]

I didn't watch that and go, you know what? What he said about Jay Z's kids is all. Okay.

[Peach]

Yeah. No, no.

[Damani]

Because Sherry was on a call. I didn't think, like, you know what? He's allowed to say that about Jerry.

[Peach]

Yeah.

[Rory]

No. Do you think this whole song kind of comes across as a, like, Kanye, like, defense?

[Damani]

Yeah. With understanding. Like, with context. With context.

[Peach]

I would say a Kanye defense. I think he's given context to things that happen from a perspective that none of us have because obviously he was there. So he knows a lot of the nuances on certain things and why things played out the way they did. So, I mean, if it feels like it's in defense of Kanye, I understand, but it really is just giving insight to and giving information that we didn't have on why certain things played out. Why certain things didn't play out. So, yeah, I mean, I wouldn't say a Kanye, like, I don't think he's defending ye. I think he's just giving more context and information, and then you are. You can do what you want with that. Like, he's just giving the more detailed events that happen. And then, you know, as a fan, as a. As a listeners, if you come across like, oh, all right, I kind of understand. All right. Kanye wasn't. He wasn't wrong as I thought he was. Like, if you feel like that, cool. But I don't think that's what Saha is trying to. I don't think he's trying to defend Kanye in any way.

[Damani]

Yeah, I think he's really just giving context to everything that happened over the last decade.

[Peach]

Yeah.

[Damani]

And, I mean, he said that's his man's and he's disagreed with him, but

[Peach]

what you supposed to do? You can have a friend of your homie and disagree with him. Like, yo, I wouldn't have said that. You wilding for saying that. You still my man, but that was crazy. Like, that's what friendships and relationships are. It's like, yo, I'm not gonna agree with. I don't wanna agree with everything my homie says or does.

[Damani]

Yeah.

[Peach]

Like, I wanna have some discourse and some back and forth and arguing a little bit. Like, yo, that was whack. Like, you shouldn't have did that. Like, that's what. That's what makes friendships friendships. Like, we can disagree, but we can still respect each other's perspective and stance on certain things. And you know what I mean? I think that's what makes great friendships. We can agree and disagree at the same time. And I think that's what Saha basically was saying throughout most of this record. Like, yeah, I didn't agree with a lot of that shit, but I know him in a different way as well. I've seen things like that he's done that was great for people and how he helped people at the same time. Even though he says off the wall crazy shit that you can never come back From. He's also done a lot of good things for people at the same time.

[Damani]

So the biggest letdown in this record was really the end. He did all that amazing rapping, put out the last two joints, all for Gina to say, when are we getting story of Mr. EGOT? And I thought, okay, we about to pull. He about to say March 15.

[Peach]

He said soon. He know how we done had these talks personally. Like, I. We. I need to. If you ain't gonna put it out, send it to my phone. I ain't gonna put it out, but I need to hear the music, man, because like this, you can't give us no dope on Sundays. And just like, all right, I'm cool. Like, I don't know when I'm put out my next year. Like that. That's just in. That's insane to give us the album. Like that rap. That was rap. Yeah, like a real rap, real high level mcn. And then we don't get. Get the follow up to that. Like, come on, S. You got to give us the album, bro. Yeah, I.

[Damani]

And I'm curious who's produced? Like, who's producing on it? What?

[Peach]

Well, I put him in touch with a certain producer that he said he wanted to work with. And then I saw that producer and I asked him, I said, yo, Sahit, you. He was like, yeah, but it ain't really. I ain't spoke to him a lot. I was like, all right, man. Like, all right.

[Damani]

Okay. I mean, as much as I would love to see the. The Kanye west produced Psy album, I mean, SAI has been running around for. For 20 years. I know he knows his sound and has his relationships. So if Kanye's not on it, it is what it is. But I still in that seven. I would have liked to see Saha added to that when they were doing everything.

[Peach]

Yeah, let me. Let me text Alchemist and see if he hit him.

[Damani]

Man.

[Rory]

Not you letting us know who the producer was, not you dropping bombs.

[Peach]

But I don't think it's not a bomb. I mean, he.

[Damani]

Yeah, I don't think anyone would think

[Peach]

it's surprising Alchemist about working with Alchemist. I think he's. He might have said that with us. Like, that was like one producer that he's always been wanting to work with. And I couldn't believe that he never. Him and Alchemist never even like, touched Connected. Touched.

[Rory]

I mean, touch. I meant to say touched Base.

[Damani]

That's worse than popping the record.

[Peach]

I hope. I hope him and Alchemist have never touched base.

[Damani]

Well, I Mean, don't do that. If whatever anyone's journey is. I don't think they did, but I

[Peach]

don't think that's hope.

[Damani]

But they got in touch.

[Peach]

Yeah, in touch. I don't. Yeah, yeah. But I'm. I'm gonna hit that chat. Cause I, I. As a, As a. Just a fan, I would love to hear what him and what alchemist is. I would cook up too, so.

[Rory]

Okay.

[Damani]

Staying on music. That Pimmy album came out.

[Rory]

Oh, my God.

[Peach]

Y' all know I'm mad at Pimmy, man.

[Rory]

I know. Why you mad? Why you mad?

[Peach]

Cuz Pimmy gave us the greatest. Huh? Album like, that was 19 minutes. 20 minutes. Yeah.

[Damani]

You know what? We're calling it an album. I think this was just a follow up because she had the interlude and had a lot of attention. Let me give them some music. Not an EP per se, but I don't like, count this as album. It's only 17 minutes long. To me, this is just. Here's some music.

[Peach]

It's fire.

[Damani]

Incredible.

[Peach]

This is like when you arguing with your girl and you hungry and she just whoop up a quick meal. That shit fire. But it's like, like, ain't no leftover. It was only enough for one plate. It's like, yo, that's it. N. You ain't go shopping. What you mean I ain't go shopping? You couldn't order.

[Rory]

Like, I loved it because it was themed. It was themed don't come Home. It's literally don't come home. Yeah.

[Damani]

Yo, she said stay till I hated you. I'm so predictable. Hey, dog, look, man, that bar stung when I was driving on the west side.

[Rory]

What? My biggest fan.

[Peach]

Yo, this shit is so. Yo, this, this, this project is so fire. But Penny, we love you, but you must not love us well.

[Damani]

Nah, listen, putting a full project together is tough and takes time. I think this is great to feed the fans in the meantime while she's putting a proper debut together. If you have the attention you had coming off some sexy songs for you, all of us were like, who is that? That was a year ago. I think this is fine to feed. Cause also it taught me that her pen is crazy. Crazy.

[Rory]

Let's do a lyrical break now.

[Damani]

Like, I. I knew she was dope and I liked the interlude, but. And there was that other, other one record that was on her. Her DSP's page. I didn't know her pen was like this. Her pen is crazy.

[Peach]

Nah, she Pimmy is. This. This project is so fire. But again, I. Soon as I was like, ooh, like, she talking cr. It went into. Cause you know how when you playing the album and just going to like a artist that kind of makes similar music, I think some random ass. So I was like, yo, this ain't Penny. I was like, yo. But then I looked and it was over. I'm like, nah, she didn't give us this quick, great. All of this great music. And it was like 18, maybe 8, 10 tracks. 18 minutes.

[Damani]

I mean, I've been critical to OVO as a label in the past, but I've always appreciated this strategy with their new artists. Party did it. We got that Midget Jordan ep, which I think is a classic ep. They do when they sign someone, give you a. A quick representation of who they are while the attention is on them, what they've done after. I've disagreed with OVO as a label, but I always think that strategy is perfect with the four Bad. Like, you got some time right now. People are focused on one song that they like with you. Give them 17 minutes, and it's great.

[Peach]

I get it. I get. And this is. But she.

[Damani]

It might be too soon for a full Penny album.

[Peach]

Like, kids, would you leave the streets for me?

[Damani]

Me.

[Peach]

And then 17 minutes later, Project over.

[Damani]

What?

[Peach]

Like, come on, would you leave the streets with me? She open. That was her opening bar. Pimmy, this is fire. But, God, we could have let the music play a little longer. You could have gave us another four bars on every joint. Like, this is dope. But it's. It's 18 minutes is crazy.

[Rory]

Y' all ain't hear my. When she said say less. Yeah, I could do what you do, but worse. So, damn, what's the point of doing it like this? It was a long session. You know how I go. And the traffic was crazy. You know how I go. It was easier to sleep at the studio. See, I could do it, too. You sound hella slow. Yeah, it was easier for me to sleep at the studio. I mean, I knew Rory and Mar

[Peach]

studio, and then it was over. Twenty seconds later, the song was over. Hey, man, that's my point.

[Rory]

It's enough. Bet that got the point across.

[Damani]

No, here's my thing. And I mean this respectfully to Pimmy. If I'm the guy she's talking about after finishing this project, my thoughts are, I can still cheat on you.

[Peach]

Nah, you got Pimmy twisted.

[Rory]

You got Pimmy twisted.

[Peach]

Yeah.

[Damani]

No, he appointed. She didn't finish it. It's just like, she talking. All right.

[Rory]

She said, call me when you can. Yeah, I gotta set you free I gotta set you free when you done at that bitch house, call me so

[Damani]

I could break up with you that's no to me. Even on monogamy, when she was saying, you want to have her but you can't have me. That sounds like a girl that is

[Peach]

staying if you cheat she said fuck whoever, do whatever. Fuck whoever, do whatever. Your ego.

[Rory]

Yeah, that's my shit right there. What my bitch say? Cause I put it out my story

[Peach]

yeah, fuck whatever, do whatever get your

[Rory]

ego too do whatever she said post whatever, do whatever it ain't my concern Whoever do whatever gets your ego turned I'd rather be alone and stay down for a hoe so treat whoever better than the one you got at home do the most it doesn't matter it's not my concern I'd rather be alone than stay down for a hoe

[Peach]

My bad.

[Damani]

You talking my bad.

[Peach]

I ain't know.

[Damani]

Embarrass my talk.

[Rory]

That talk that.

[Damani]

That would hit different.

[Peach]

Yo, I ain't going to lie. This project is dope, man. But it's like Penny just was like, huh, yeah, go. Leave me alone. Stop asking.

[Damani]

I think where R and B is at currently. And. And you can clearly tell the talent she has. I. I think, I think OVO has them. An artist?

[Peach]

No. Pim. Is she.

[Damani]

I think they. I. I don't want to say they got one because that sounds so cliche and corny, but this was a good representation of. Of. Oh, she's actually talented.

[Peach]

Yeah, she's dope.

[Damani]

And it's. It's the perfect time for this type of music, ironically. We're going to get to the Y album. I kind of felt like this. Pimmy's album was if Yeba and Party Next Door had a kid.

[Rory]

Really?

[Peach]

Pimmy's album was if Yeba and Party had a kid?

[Damani]

Yes.

[Peach]

Okay.

[Damani]

Throughout the whole album was like. No, I mean, I mean, it's correctly. Of course YBA is a better vocalist, but there's very few vocalists on earth that can really touch. Yeah. So I don't mean that as a slight to Pimmy whatsoever. I think Pimmy is a good vocalist, but it was like a YBA tone if Pardi was in the room writing everything from a woman's perspective.

[Rory]

Okay.

[Damani]

Did you get a chance to listen to the Yeba album while there?

[Peach]

Absolutely.

[Rory]

I didn't get a chance. I'm upset. How was it?

[Damani]

Oh, it's some great white soul on there.

[Peach]

Yeah, man.

[Damani]

There's some great white soul on there.

[Peach]

I almost. Around and went on a road trip. Almost jumped in the car and just went on a road trip, like, listening to that. This is road trip music.

[Rory]

Who, Yebba.

[Peach]

1000%. You gotta. You gotta take a. You gotta just drive. I don't. You don't know where you going? Just get in the car and go.

[Damani]

Yeah, and. Like a luxury pickup truck.

[Peach]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Does she have another distance on there? Because Distance is one of my favorite songs.

[Damani]

I wouldn't say another distance, per se, but I. I do know what. What you're saying. It did lean. It leaned more on the white soul than I. I thought it was going to.

[Rory]

What do you mean?

[Damani]

Not. Not so white soul. Like.

[Rory]

Ah.

[Damani]

Yeah, it was. Because I think she's so scared to have any type of Adele comparisons where I think she could do that. Lane. It's not country esque, but it's a little more popish than I would expect from Yeba. But I really, really did like it.

[Rory]

Okay.

[Damani]

I mean. But yeah, all right is close to that, I guess.

[Peach]

The Seven Years, though. The Seven Years joint, that's the one that almost got me to drive all the way to Toronto. Yeah. Once Seven Years came on, I was like, all right, yeah, but you just gonna make me go. Just go. Take a little road trip. I don't know where I'm going, but I'm out.

[Damani]

Did it touch a little into country more than you thought it would? I don't want to say country, but there is a tone of country in it.

[Peach]

Maybe I'm wrong.

[Rory]

A little twang.

[Damani]

Yeah. I think it's from the south, so that's.

[Peach]

That's.

[Damani]

That's.

[Peach]

That's just her roots.

[Damani]

Arkansas, There you go.

[Peach]

Yeah, that's her roots. You're gonna hear it.

[Damani]

Yeah. And she's dabbled in that a bit before, but I think on this album it was a little bit more. But I. I did like it.

[Peach]

No, this was. This. This. This album was incredible. Like, it's like. It's just. It's just. It's certain music you hear where you like. All right. This is not what I would usually listen to, but it's good. It feels good, it sounds good, it's well done. And then the. The lyrics, you know what I'm saying? You can relate. Like, okay, like, she on here talking her. But the music is not. It's not what you probably think it is, because I think it's. It's listed as alternative.

[Damani]

Yeah, I think so.

[Peach]

So it's not an R B project.

[Rory]

Yeah, I wouldn't expect that.

[Peach]

But the vibe Though the. The energy is.

[Damani]

Dawn is under alternative as well, though.

[Peach]

Is it?

[Damani]

Yeah, I would expect that to be under R B as well. Yeah. But, yeah, it is listed.

[Peach]

But this feels more alternative, though.

[Damani]

Yeah, it definitely leans more.

[Peach]

Yeah, the music is a little more.

[Damani]

Dawn is. Is more R B. But to me, she even pops off one record with God is Good. All the time. All the time. God is good. But I am tired.

[Rory]

Like, she's no dead ass.

[Damani]

She's in that back.

[Rory]

No dead ass.

[Peach]

You know, when you ain't talking like that.

[Damani]

I'm tired all the time, though. I just. Just. I'm tired.

[Peach]

Yeah.

[Damani]

Like, yo, I'm trying.

[Peach]

Listen. I'm trying to be. Listen, I love the Lord. Lord. The. The Lord, he is my. He heard my cry. You get into all of that. But yo, like, what we on.

[Rory]

Yeah, you gotta ask God what we are. What you are sometimes.

[Peach]

Hey, that's all right. It's all right to ask God that. It's okay. But nah, this project is. This project was dope. This was a good music weekend.

[Damani]

It was great, great music.

[Peach]

This was a good music weekend.

[Rory]

Roy, if you like that type of music, I still advise for you to check out Michael Franks. I still feel that you would love Michael.

[Peach]

Check out what?

[Rory]

Michael Frank Franks.

[Damani]

That wasn't my list. Let me. Let me read it.

[Peach]

You. You. You had Mike's Franks on your list.

[Damani]

Did anything else drop? No.

[Rory]

Warrior.

[Damani]

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[Rory]

Plenty dropped but what did you guys listen to?

[Peach]

I didn't listen to Jay Skis and Ill tone beats. They probably I didn't get to listen to. I'm listening to them. Check it out tonight though.

[Damani]

Yeah, I'm definitely checking out this week. Like we admittedly said there was so much going on. Oh Todd Alison Girl Music Volume 1. I did listen to the episode. It's great. And my issue is I wish he didn't give us this EP and took these six records and gave us six more and put us this is we had talked last episode. For those that did listen. I think Ty is an icon But I also put him kind of in the Chris Brown category of you haven't given me the class. I think Free TC is a classic to me, but Ty and what he means to this generation has not given us that fucking classic. And like, you can't just throw intentions with Brandy on an ep. But here, that song is so fucking good. I. I just like these records. The Featuring Ty Dolla Sign album, I think all six of these records are better than that whole album.

[Peach]

Album.

[Damani]

And it's like, why can't we focus this type of sound and expand it to a 12 track project? Okay, it's. No, it's fine. I mean, clearly it says volume one, so I'm sure he has volume two with six records.

[Peach]

Sure.

[Damani]

But I know once we get to volume three, we're all going to come in here and say, man, it would have been nice if he just put all these volumes together and made it a Ty Dollan album.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Damani]

I just know we're gonna get into that realm. But I can appreciate that because Ty's one of those artists that records 75 songs a day, most of which that will, like, stay on a hard drive. And he won't put out, I don't know. So this gets him to actively put out, like packs. I'm fine with it because there's not a skip on this entire thing. Like leading with Miss YouTube with Leon Thomas. I understand Leon's on fire. Any one of these records could have led like, it's a really, really good ep.

[Peach]

I don't know if y' all noticed, but we getting back to short projects.

[Damani]

What's EP?

[Peach]

No, not that even. Yeba's out. That's only 40 minutes.

[Damani]

Yeah, but I mean, Pimmy gave us 18.

[Peach]

Got out of there. Like, I'm gonna give y' all these 18 minutes and I gotta go. Yebba gave us 40 minutes. The Niles Barkley album, I think is only like 40 minutes.

[Damani]

But that's. We knew that was gonna come back because when everyone was doing the 40 track projects or 23 records to try to trick the algorithm and stream gaming. Everybody's not Chris Brown, dog. Yeah, like, yes, that works for Chris because people love Chris Brown and are going to listen to 40 records from Chris Brown because he's Chris Brown. You little Xanax Molly. What? Wap, no one wants to hear 40 records from you, though. The world can only handle 40 minutes of music. Especially when we have microwave brains right now. Except for think you could have long albums in this time, because Chris Brown knows how to trick an algorithm is the dumbest thing ever.

[Peach]

Pimmy's supposed to give us 30 minutes.

[Damani]

Yo, you still tight, fam?

[Peach]

That project is so dope. In 18 minutes, I know she had a.

[Rory]

One phone call with that. We could have got another 20 minutes. I know you had more in the top.

[Peach]

I know you had more. She definitely got. She definitely cut all the.

[Damani]

Those are Lucy's.

[Rory]

Rory, did you.

[Peach]

What would be dope, though? Not to cut you off. What would be dope, though, is if that was the album. Right? She gave us the 18 minute minutes, and then at her shows, the songs are longer. Like at a live show. Yeah, that would be hard.

[Damani]

But there's also a good way to test markets like, to do live shows like that. 17 minutes, I think is a perfect strategy for. Because coming out the gate when you're not proven to give a full project can fail very easily. I don't care how talented you are, like, you got to ease people into shit, man.

[Peach]

18 minutes. God damn.

[Damani]

I thought. I think that's perfect for that.

[Rory]

Did you guys listen to the Niles Barkley album?

[Damani]

Album? I love Gnarls Barkley. I love CeeLo and I love Danger

[Rory]

Mouse and also his ass.

[Damani]

We'll go. I love Nar Barkley. I love CEO.

[Peach]

It's not ass. It's just not. It's not. It's.

[Damani]

It's all over the place.

[Peach]

It's a.

[Damani]

It's.

[Peach]

The music is very, like, over the place. Yeah, but it's not ass, though. It's just. You got to be in a certain head space to kind of like, listen to that project.

[Rory]

Ah, there's.

[Damani]

There's like, joint. There's a few.

[Peach]

No, it's music on there. It's good music on there, but it's just. It's not what I was expecting. Like, it's definitely not what I was expecting. It's like, oh, this is. Oh, they went ahead and was jamming like they was in the studio jam session, putting music. Yeah, it's just like, okay, like, I gotta, like, hold on. Not right now. You can't go off of Pimmy Yebba and go Nas on them. You can't go Nas after Pimmy. And. Yeah, it's like, nah, fam, we on a whole different frequency right now now.

[Rory]

Okay.

[Damani]

And like, even the lyrical content, like CeeLo I. It was just a lot of weird content on there, too. Things I've never heard CeeLo say.

[Peach]

Yeah, like what?

[Damani]

It's just the whole album itself is very chaotic all over the place. Like, there's joints that feel like old Gnarls Barkley that, like, bring you back down to earth and calm. And then it goes in the most chaotic space ever. Sonic. Like, it's one of those albums that I'm gonna need. Like, yeah, you gotta need some months.

[Peach]

You gotta be wearing silk. You gotta put some silk on to listen to this album.

[Damani]

But also, was it, like. Was it really dark to you? Were you listening to what CeeLo was saying? Like, the first record really even starts out with Take Cover. All God's children Even the sun has gone to hide the sky is raining bullets I'll never forget the day that tomorrow dies Died we're all the same in death Then it goes to amnesia A nervous breakdown and a seizure Suspended sweet Nothing has been such a friend to me I said amnesia I'm still a believer if I come back alive Will anyone remember me? Like, it's like the first two records are suicide notes.

[Peach]

Yeah. It was like, the vibe was. It was totally.

[Damani]

I was in the car, like, I. Does anyone have CeeLo's number? Like, I hope he's okay.

[Peach]

The vibe was totally different. Like, coming off of that pemi. That beautiful pem tone and those lyrics. And then hearing that, I was just like, all right. I wasn't expecting.

[Damani]

This is.

[Peach]

That's. That's just not what I was expecting from Barkley.

[Damani]

And I mean. I mean, Danger Mouse, I absolutely love. I'm curious what space he's into. I don't mean that in a bad way. It's just. It's not what I was expecting, I guess, at all. I see why they did no rollout. I see why they literally just said, we're putting an album out. Here you go. This is going to take some time, I feel like. And I'm going to give it its proper listens because these are two legends. But out the gate, it's not a bunch of who's going to save my souls. Now, that's not this album.

[Peach]

No. Totally different vibe, but.

[Damani]

But there's joints on there. I'm curious. Give it a listen and text me to let me know. You're not really a Narrows Barkley fan.

[Peach]

Really?

[Rory]

No, never Big. A big Gnarls Barkley fan. I'll give it a try. But I was never a big Gnarles Barkley.

[Damani]

Why I always love Gnarles Barkley is because they trick the masses with crazy and fucking you. And then you got to their albums and it was like, nah, this. This ain't that. Yeah. Yeah. We're not this pop group that you think we are Ceelo and Danger Mouse. We can stay on music before we get out of here. Did you see that? They've been killing Ebro for the past week.

[Rory]

Yes, but for what exactly? I've seen. I get it. I get it.

[Peach]

I guess they on Ebro ass.

[Rory]

They on Ebro ass.

[Damani]

Yeah.

[Peach]

What do you do now, man? He always, yo, Hebro start with you.

[Rory]

But is he lying?

[Peach]

He's lying.

[Rory]

Is he lying?

[Damani]

Oh, well. Well, ten years ago, and I'm paraphrasing here, so apologies, Ebro. Ten years ago, Uzi went on Hot 97 and Lake Drama. Everyone had told him, like, no, Uzi, he raps real. Which Uzi does rap when he feels like rapping? Uzi can rap when he wants to. Not saying that happens all the time, but Uzi can rap when he wants to.

[Peach]

I can rap when I want to.

[Damani]

I mean, like. Like, actually rap.

[Peach]

Yeah, my bad.

[Damani]

All right, well, you fucking. You and Saha get in there. So he was on there, and Ero wanted him to rap over some, like, boom, bat beat. And Uzi was like, I don't rap on this type of shit.

[Peach]

I remember that.

[Damani]

And Ebro, again, paraphrasing was like, well, that's what. Rappers can rap at any time, on any beat. If you just trying to pick and choose, that's why you may not be here. I'll still be here in 10 years. Meaning I'll still be at the radio station. Will be here, I'll be here. Everything in. In that regard, it's how everyone interpreted that 10 years later, the anniversary pops up and they start comparing what happened to Ebro in 10 years and where Uzi's at. Because Uzi said he was a rock star. And he was like, you not a rock star. You're not going to be here in 10 years. And now, 10 years later.

[Rory]

Okay, and so EO's direct quote is, I think they're celebrating that he's referring to Uzi still around. I lost a job and he got more money and he's still here. But I ask you, while his hit song is going around right now, are you guys highly anticipating an Uzi vert out?

[Damani]

I love Ebro. That's a fucking dodge. Come on, man. You know. You know they're not celebrating that clip because Uzi's still here in 10 years. That's. Everyone's not going, yo, Uzi's still here a decade later. No, they're laughing that you said you would still be here and Uzi wouldn't and you're not There. And Uzi is still a A to B list artist. When he drops, Uzi still does crazy tickets. Am I anticipating an Uzi album? That was such an unfair question because everyone that he was talking to in that room, like myself included, is not Uzi's audience. There's so many people still anticipating an Uzi vert album. Are we out of our minds, though?

[Peach]

True. Huge fan base.

[Damani]

Even though one of his. His albums was a bit of a dud to his own fans. All of our favorite rappers sometimes have a dud. If you are sitting here saying, I think they're celebrating that he's still around. But yo, are y' all even in like, no, I'm not.

[Peach]

But his fans, there's a.

[Damani]

There's 100,000 kids that are anticipating a little Uzi ver album. Like, what are we talking about? Right?

[Rory]

We're not the audience for that, man.

[Damani]

See, this is why I. I love Ebro. Eo. Ebro is really, really good at. At like pr. He knows how to word things very well because he's been in this business for 40 years. I think they're celebrating that he's still around. No, you don't. Ebro. Ebro's one of the smartest people. I bet you don't think that, you know, you're getting clowned for that. And you diverting.

[Peach]

Oh, he know. He gotta know. He getting killed for that. Like what he thought was gonna happen, like. And that's what they supposed to do now that. What is it, 10 years since he said that? Oh, yeah. They supposed to kill him for that 2016.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Peach]

As they should. Should kill Ebro.

[Rory]

Oh my God.

[Peach]

I'm not joking, man.

[Damani]

Said, I don't think Uzi has set out to be the quintessential rapper. What a quintessential rapper is. I don't think that's what he's been trying to do. I think that's the part where his fan base and people who love what he does, really love him, cuz he's the kind try to do other things and be. But that's what he was trying to explain to you in 2016.

[Rory]

But that, that. Yeah, yeah, you.

[Damani]

You explaining what he tried to explain to you in 2016 that you didn't understand is fucking hilarious.

[Peach]

Yeah, yeah.

[Damani]

And I'm with ebro, especially in 2016. We all come from that clause. If you say you could rap and I throw on a beat, you don't. You shouldn't be able to pick what beat or what sound a rapper should be able to do that. Times have changed up. Uzi was trying to explain to you that's not what I do.

[Peach]

And part of the reason why Uzi is still popping is because he didn't try to just be the quintessential rapper.

[Damani]

Yeah.

[Peach]

Cause he. He definitely would have been out of here if he was trying to do that. Like, ain't nobody.

[Damani]

No.

[Peach]

He had to be as colorful of an artist, as different. He had to be that artist to still be relevant and to still have the fan base he has today. Like, he had to do that.

[Damani]

And I mean, that's where I give Drama Lake Canon the most credit. Like, they built their label with Jack and other artists. The fact that they heard Uzi. Cause they got old ass ears like me. The fact that they heard Uzi and saw that vision and fully understood it, to me makes them. Them the best execs of generation. Like the name of the label. Y' all are from the era of mixtapes and rappers. How did you see this kid in a kilt and go, you know what? I get it.

[Peach]

We got something.

[Damani]

And clearly they were right.

[Peach]

No, for sure.

[Damani]

Because I would have heard that and be like, I mean, it's not for me. I don't know if I could sit and find your vision. You should find someone that can. But yeah, I mean, you got to take that one on the chin.

[Peach]

I am with Ebro, though. I'm not anticipating no Uzi album.

[Rory]

Well, you wouldn't.

[Damani]

Yeah.

[Peach]

Like, I'm so. That's what I'm saying. I understand Ebro and that.

[Damani]

Like, it's like, that's such a cop. All right. If you're telling someone they're not going to be here and I will be. And I'm not there anymore. And 10 years later, you're asking a room full of people that are not Uzi fans if they're anticipating something is the biggest cop out ever. Yeah, go, go, go. Ask Twitter. Twitter. Are you anticipating a Uzi outside of the actual trolls that will just be there to. To troll? You're going to get a bunch of Uzi fans saying, yeah, the kids are anticipating Uzi album.

[Rory]

He's there.

[Damani]

They're not even kids anymore.

[Rory]

He's their J. Cole.

[Damani]

Facts like, bro, I've seen Uzi perform multiple times at festivals. It's a different level of fan base.

[Peach]

You know, it's. It's definitely not. It's not for me, bro.

[Damani]

When he hits them shoulders, people think, but he's.

[Peach]

He's hips. There's no denying his star power, though. There's no denying that.

[Damani]

He's.

[Peach]

He's. He's definitely a star.

[Damani]

Yeah. And he wanted to do other things. Yeah. Ebro, he tried to explain that to you. He has a. A whole office at Rock Nation that's just dedicated to cut and sew.

[Rory]

Is Ebro having a rough year? Is this, like, a rough year?

[Damani]

You think so? I. I think it was a blessing that. That they got out of Hot 97.

[Rory]

Probably.

[Damani]

I. I definitely think where Hot was going. I think that was perfect for that. I actually think Ebro's probably having an amazing year to get out of that. Something that was a burden at that point for some. You know, Hebro's doing great. I like the add ons with their show as well at Apple. I like the guys that they added in. I think that that just brings more conversation, everything.

[Peach]

Yeah.

[Damani]

Ebro likes to be hated, which he's admitted. And he's extremely good at talking. Ebro will always be fine. Ebro actually has talent. He has perspective. Ebro will always be fine. And people don't know what he does behind the scenes for Apple, too. He's not just a talking head.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Damani]

So, no, I'm. I think Ebro's. I think he bro's doing just fine.

[Rory]

No, I didn't. When I said a tough year, I didn't mean financially. Let's not.

[Damani]

No, no, no, of course. Of course. You're saying, like, perception. Yeah, yeah.

[Rory]

Public perception.

[Damani]

May he shout out to Ebro. Laurel, Stiles and Rosenberg, they had Ebro's daughter on their show talking about her flag football league. Like, that was like the fly shit ever to me. Have your daughter plug her flag football league on your podcast. Amar is going to come on here and just paint for two hours. Hours. Right. While we're recording one day, all my. All the kids are coming on. You hurry up, have some kids. We're doing a kids cast.

[Rory]

I'm having them in two years. Two, three. Three years.

[Damani]

Do we know. Oh, boy. Do we know the father yet?

[Rory]

Do you know him? I don't know him. I am like, who.

[Damani]

Who we talking about?

[Rory]

We don't know.

[Peach]

Oh, you don't know him yet?

[Rory]

Well, I don't know. I might know him. I might not. I don't know. Wherever the yellow brick road leads me,

[Peach]

I'm gonna treat you like this, uzi. Ebro. In 10 years, I'm gonna be like, yo, I thought you ain't noticed. I can't wait. I can't wait till I see who you have a baby with. Yeah, I'm like Damaris. I thought you said you ain't noticed.

[Rory]

You gonna be a goddad?

[Peach]

For sure.

[Rory]

Okay.

[Peach]

For sure.

[Damani]

Crazy.

[Peach]

I mean, I could be the Godfather. You want me to dress up as a godfather too? Like, put on the whole, like.

[Rory]

What do you mean?

[Peach]

What would you. Never seen the Godfather? The movie? I gotta wear like, that suit, the hat. Oh, put the coat on over this.

[Rory]

Nah, the Godspeed is fine.

[Peach]

The silk scarf. I gotta have the silk scarf on.

[Damani]

Nah, do the suit with the Burberry peach.

[Rory]

Said the Godspeed father.

[Peach]

The Godspeed father. I am the Godspeed father. Yeah, put that on. Put the silk scarf on. Right? No, you wouldn't want me to do that.

[Rory]

No, I just want you to, you know, train him up in the way of in.

[Peach]

Gotcha. Oh, yeah, that's easy. I got you. I can do.

[Rory]

Okay.

[Peach]

Prayers to Rihanna.

[Damani]

Yeah. Thank. Thank God.

[Peach]

She was fine. Thank God her family is safe. Rihanna's home was shot up. A woman shot at Rihanna's home in, I think Beverly Hills, right? Yeah, she was home. Rihanna was home when the event happened?

[Damani]

Oh, she was. I'm sorry, I thought she. She wasn't home?

[Peach]

No, she. Jesus Christ.

[Damani]

Thank God.

[Rory]

I think her and her. The kids, I think they were all home, if I'm not mistaken.

[Peach]

But the. The woman was. She was apprehended, she was arrested, and she's booked on attempted murder charges. And that carries a 35 year sentence if convicted. So hopefully that woman is convicted and gets 35 years in prison. Just shooting at anybody's home is crazy. Like, I don't, you know, obviously this woman is not mentally, you know, there, but either way, I mean, there's no sympathy for that. You shoot at somebody's house, you should face the maximum penalty. So, so glad Rihanna and her family are safe. Glad anybody else that was in that area is safe. Because we did see years ago, Mr. Clarence Avon, when his home was invaded and his wife was killed in their kitchen, random person just broke into the house and shot her. So shit. Like, this is scary, but, you know, this is the world we live in. So prayers to Rihanna, her family, and thank God that they're safe.

[Damani]

I don't wanna speak anything into existence. I'm just observing how the Internet works now, how the Stan world works now.

[Peach]

It's crazy.

[Damani]

I hope we don't start to see more of this. And in my head I'm thinking we're going to start to see more of this, but I'm trying not to be pessimistic or speak anything Negative in the world. But the way people are moving, how accessible celebrities are, how easy it is to get the address and know where people are and how sick in the head. Social media has made some of these stand groups. It would not shock me if this does not become more of a. A thing.

[Peach]

Yeah, no, but that's why I want like this. I want her to get 35 years. You got to set the example. If you ever throw the book at

[Damani]

her, if you shoot into a house with kids in it, I. I understand that's not a murder charge. That would carries life, but it should be more than 35 years. I don't know if therapy is gonna. If this woman's gonna come out in 35 years and be rehabilitated.

[Peach]

That therapy.

[Damani]

No, that's what I'm saying. I don't know. I don't think that this woman.

[Peach]

35 years of therapy. Go sit in that cell for 35 years.

[Damani]

No, I'm saying in jail. Jail when she's doing her 35 years. Usually when people are arrested and face insanity, they maybe end up in certain jails where they'll have a therapist or something because they're mentally insane. I'm saying fuck all that. I don't think therapy is going to change this woman in 35 years. I don't think she's going to come out rehabilitated. I think that's still a danger to society. If you're sick in the head enough to go in front of someone's house that you do not know, but because they're a celebrity and start shooting into their house with kids.

[Peach]

Yeah, that's crazy.

[Damani]

I don't know if you're gonna come out in 35 and be like, you know what, man? I was a different person.

[Peach]

I learned my lesson. Yeah. Nah, give them 35 years. Keep people like that off the streets. Because like you said, innocent people just in their home and somebody shooting at them. Yeah. You need to make an example out of that person.

[Damani]

Yeah. Before we get out of here. Also speaking of EO Stove guy was on Apple talking about his. His project he has. Pusha T and Westside Gun are the only features completely produced by Swizz B. I love Swizz. Friend of the show. Our brother in arms. I will be honest. I think this is either going to be absolutely amazing or completely missed. I don't think there'll be a middle ground. I don't know how like I feel.

[Peach]

You. I understand what you're saying.

[Damani]

I love Swizz a lot. One of the greatest producers Ever. If he's not locked in and Stove God is his only priority and focus. It would make me nervous. But I do think Stove got is really great at picking beats, so I hope that offsets.

[Peach]

Great at picking beats, great at writing hooks.

[Damani]

So great at melodies.

[Peach]

Great at melodies, great at bars.

[Damani]

I hope he's just as involved in the production. I hope it's not. Here's 10 beats. I made you rap on them now.

[Peach]

Well, the song that they put out, the Swiss joint, the first record. So if we got 10 more of those. Yeah, all's good. All's well.

[Damani]

I do hope Swizz is heavily involved with the visuals and directing, the music,

[Peach]

the artistic creativity, artistic direction of it all.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Damani]

Because Swizz is great at that stuff. But, yeah, I'm excited for that.

[Peach]

All right, well, good to see you guys. Good to be back with the gang, gang, gang.

[Damani]

Yes, sir.

[Peach]

Baby D, check out that Yeba project. I will check it out. Some joints on there just don't end up in Montana. You might just end up in the car and just. You know what I'm saying?

[Rory]

I like to go for walks with music like that.

[Peach]

Walks. Sorry. You about to walk to your crib. You about to be in Rhode Island. Don't even worry about it. You walk to Rhode Island? Yep, Yep.

[Damani]

It's a good nature walk.

[Peach]

1000%.

[Damani]

You could walk to Rhode island on it.

[Peach]

You could definitely put. Yeah, just go to Central Park.

[Rory]

Okay.

[Damani]

Yeah, that'd be good.

[Daniel Cormier]

Yeah.

[Peach]

65, 70 degrees out. Perfect time to just listen to yubba and go to Central park and just walk around. You might see Kevin McAllister. Who knows? You might. Who knows? It's nice out. All right, we'll talk to y' all soon. Be safe, be blessed. I'm that. He's just ginger. That's Baby D.

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