Episode 479 | Pay Them People

Summary

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New Rory & Mal — Episode 479: "Pay Them People"

April 10, 2026
iHeartPodcasts and The Volume

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Episode Overview

On this “just us Friday” edition, Rory is out, leaving Mall and Baby D to steer the conversation. The pair serve up new stories, signature humor, and unfiltered hot takes as they discuss the Kanye UK ban controversy, alleged industry debt and violence (Offset/Lil Tjay incident), the question of family financial entitlement, Nepo-baby culture, Michael Jackson biopic drama, new music drops, and more. This episode is packed with sharp social commentary, hilarious banter, and insights into the entertainment business, all delivered in the witty, candid style fans expect.

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Main Discussion Segments

Kanye West Banned from the UK (04:00–13:00)

• Recap: Kanye West has been officially banned from entering the UK, stemming from his controversial statements and antisemitic behavior. The British government declared his presence "not conducive to the public good"—notably after sponsors pulled out of the Wireless Festival.
• Analysis:
  • Mall questions whether banning Kanye is too extreme, given other, arguably riskier, UK drill rappers aren’t under similar scrutiny.
  • The Netherlands, in contrast, announced Kanye will be allowed to perform there.
• Quote:
  • “But to ban Kanye from entering the UK—that’s ridiculous. That’s just like, all right bro.” — Rory Farrell (07:29)
  • "This adds to the allure of Ye... This is helping the legend. I don't think Kanye is sitting back mad." — Rory Farrell (12:28)
• Debate:
  • Baby D emphasizes the authorities’ concern is less the song content and more the backlash and protests his presence could trigger.
  • Mall wonders if this is about "sending a message" rather than actually averting danger.
• Memorable Moment:
  • Jokes weave throughout as Mall describes the ban as building Kanye’s “villain” mystique rather than hurting his career.

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Offset, Lil Tjay, Gambling Debt, and Violence in Hip-Hop (18:03–28:51)

• Recap: Rumors circulate that Lil Tjay shot Offset over a $10,000 gambling debt at a casino, amid a wider conversation about Offset owing money (others, like Dez Bryant and Ebro, claim debts, too).
• Discussion:
  • Both agree the scenario seems wild or exaggerated, with more likely to the story beneath surface allegations: “10k will get it done? I don’t think so.” (20:49)
  • They highlight how casinos have cameras everywhere, questioning why there isn’t footage yet.
  • Baby D wonders whether the violence is about the "audacity” of not paying, not the money.
  • Mall points out that Offset might genuinely have a gambling problem, theorizing about debt, pride, and hip-hop’s money culture.
• Quote:
  • "Once you shoot me, we even. I'm not giving you no bread after you shot at me." — Baby D (27:58)
• Humor:
  • Mall and Baby D compare criminal antics of past artists: “Didn’t Remy Ma go to jail for less than that?”
  • Reminiscing about missing flights and sick days gets slyly mixed in, demonstrating their rapport.

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Who Deserves a Handout? Family Entitlement, Nepo Babies, and Loyalty (34:42–47:07)

• Recap: Drawing from the viral stories of Glorilla and T Grizzley’s families expecting financial help, Mall and Baby D debate who actually "deserves" enrichment once a relative becomes wealthy.
• Key Points:
  • Mall’s View: No one is inherently entitled. If anyone, it’s parents—preferably those who “don’t abuse it.” The best help goes to those who are already working for themselves, not those expectant of handouts.
  • Baby D’s Addendum: Opportunity should be for those already making moves. If you want something, you have to show your own initiative too.
  • Both agree: Helping people who don’t want to help themselves can backfire. They stress the importance of working with those actively proving their ambitions.
• Quote:
  • “Help family and friends if they're worth helping. It's a hard pill to take once you realize, like, damn, my friends ain't shit... they bums." — Rory Farrell (43:06)
  • "If you're in a position to help family and friends that deserve it... if they're actively working to build something themselves... those are the people you take care of first." — Rory Farrell (45:58)
• Anecdotes:
  • Both share personal stories: Baby D’s journey through doubt to discovering her path in creativity; Mall’s youthful refusal to chase a “Rockefeller” opportunity until he was ready.

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Nepo Babies & Parenting Values (47:00–52:32)

• Discussion: Should Mall's hypothetical kid get an "in" to media or entertainment?
  • Mall: He wants his future child to work for their opportunities and develop creatively; he wouldn’t force them into media, acknowledging most jobs of today might not exist in the future.
  • Baby D: Wishes her kids will try things she herself wasn't brave enough to attempt—like screenwriting or directing.
• Quote:
  • “When it's your kid playing and interacting, you'll enjoy it. When it's not your kids you just hear noise…” — Rory Farrell (16:39)
  • "My biggest fear has always been the loss of security, that's why I always took the safe option.” — Baby D (51:21)
• Memorable Exchange: Jokes about Baby D’s hypothetical attempt at stripping add levity:
  • “You cast out ten bands, you go back next Saturday, don’t tell me you’re not.” — Rory Farrell (49:39)

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Accountability vs. Excuses (52:05–57:31)

• Theme: Who is a “f*** up” and do people recognize their own downward spirals?
• Insight:
  • Mall insists, “If you’re lonely, it's because you're a piece of shit. Nobody likes you.”
  • Baby D discusses impostor syndrome and feeling like a failure when her life didn’t look traditional—before she found her lane.

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Michael Jackson Movie Controversy (60:04–64:07)

• Story: Janet Jackson and Paris Jackson are left out of Michael Jackson’s forthcoming movie, reportedly over likeness rights and accuracy concerns.
• Commentary:
  • Both loved Michael Jackson as kids but are disappointed. Mall says, “It’s just so hard to tell the Michael Jackson story without Janet… she’s such a huge part.”
  • They ponder Janet’s boycott’s potential impact and joke about “supporting the colonizers” with this film.
• Quote:
  • “I don’t think we supposed to go see this movie... Janet ain’t with it, Paris ain’t with it, we supporting the Colonizers with this one.” — Rory Farrell (63:46)

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Listener Voicemail Highlights (71:23–75:41)

• Memorable Voicemail:
  • A caller urges more acceptance for closeted gay people, sparking a typically irreverent, yet supportive riff on sexuality and masculinity in the Black community.
• Mall on Authenticity:
  • “It’s weird to be down low now. Now we’re in the era where it’s weird when you’re not openly gay.” (73:51)

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New Music Releases & Industry Talk (75:41–77:59)

• Upcoming drops: DJ Khaled ("One Of Them" feat. Future and Lil Baby), Lil Tjay, Isaiah Rashad, Snoop Dogg’s "10 Til Midnight", and Aldo & Spanish Ran’s "Rock, Paper, Scissor" are all highlighted.
• Mall jokes: “I wasn’t looking forward to a new Snoop album, but I ain’t mad at it.” (77:21)

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Quick Hits & Banter Highlights

• Sex & Relationships (68:06–71:17):
  • Debate: 10 minutes of amazing sex or 45 minutes of “good” sex with someone you like? Mall chooses quality if there’s emotional investment.
• On Chasing Love:
  • “If a man wants to talk to you, he’ll call you.” — Baby D (81:06)
• On Male Loneliness:
  • “If you lonely, it’s because you a piece of shit. Cool dudes aren't lonely.” — Mall (79:36)

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Notable Quotes & Timestamps

• "This adds to the allure of Ye... This is helping the legend. I don't think Kanye is sitting back mad."
  — Rory Farrell, (12:28)

• “Help family and friends if they’re worth helping… my friends ain’t shit…they bums.”
  — Rory Farrell, (43:06)

• “Once you shoot me, we even. I'm not giving you no bread after you shot at me.”
  — Baby D, (27:58)

• “If you lonely, it’s because you a piece of shit. Nobody likes you.”
  — Mall, (79:36)

• “I don’t think we supposed to go see this movie... Janet ain’t with it, Paris ain’t with it, we supporting the Colonizers with this one.”
  — Rory Farrell, (63:46)

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Episode Highlights

• Sharp banter and candid debates about celebrity debt, family expectations, and “helping” culture
• Nuanced takes on freedom of speech, social responsibility, and cancel culture (esp. regarding Kanye)
• Honest reflections on choosing creative careers, parental support, and merit
• Laugh-out-loud moments throughout—especially on sex, nostalgia, and New York panhandlers

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For Listeners Who Missed It

This episode is a quintessential New Rory & Mal hour: breezy yet substantive, mixing hilarious tangents with real talk about morality, work ethic, the chaos of the music industry, and what it means to actually “pay them people."

Transcript

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[Baby D]

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[Mall]

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[Baby D]

No warrior now.

[Rory Farrell]

No conductor.

[Baby D]

No worrying.

[Rory Farrell]

All right, we are back. End of the week. Happy Friday. Happy Friday to each and every one of you out there. Don't you love Fridays, baby?

[Baby D]

D I do.

[Rory Farrell]

I really do. This Friday is really great because it's just us. This is a just us Friday. Us. You know, when I say us, you know what I mean. So the Colonizer. Rory Farrell is not here with us today. He is away. Yeah. Clapping up for Rory being gone. Yeah.

[Baby D]

Don't do my friend like that.

[Rory Farrell]

Yeah. Give the listeners a break. Sometimes the listeners need a break.

[Baby D]

Stop.

[Rory Farrell]

I gotta take a break, though. I don't think I've ever taken a break. Have I ever taken a break? No. Right.

[Baby D]

You've been gone. Birth. Not. It wasn't like a. You just missed flights and like that, Mr. Remember Virginia?

[Rory Farrell]

Okay.

[Baby D]

You missed the flight in Virginia. And then I think you. I don't know. I can't remember.

[Rory Farrell]

You've taken a long time. You got sick before, too, so twice.

[Baby D]

Yep.

[Rory Farrell]

My streak. I'm like the Lou Gehrig of podcasting. I'm the iron man of poc, Baby. Don't hate. Don't do that. We're not gonna start this episode. I'm just saying. I've only missed two episodes and how many years I've been doing this? I'm just saying. I'm just saying, Baby D. I'm just saying.

[Baby D]

You're right. One thing about me, I'll be gone.

[Rory Farrell]

People count on me. Death and taxes. It's mall. Death and taxes is what the people can be.

[Baby D]

Going back to my exes.

[Rory Farrell]

You know what I'm saying? And you go and you spinning more, Baby D. Spinning. Death and taxes are what the people can definitely count.

[Baby D]

All right. Nah, we not doing this. This episode.

[Rory Farrell]

All right. No, we not doing that. But before we get into it, Baby D, before we get into, you know, the news for the weekend and really get into the shits, we are sponsored by Boost Mobile. Unlimited talk, text and data. We need a lot of data for all the things. The news that's going on. We gotta be able to keep up with everything between Iran and Kanye not being allowed in the uk. It's a lot of shit going on that we need the data. We need to.

[Baby D]

Serious shit. Serious shit.

[Rory Farrell]

I'm just saying. All right, listen. I'm just saying, how much of it. And we can get into it, but how much of it, Baby D, do we really care about? Like, I know we get news every day on our phones and we hear on social media, but when you say serious shit right now, Iran and everything happening in the Middle east, serious people are dying, people losing their lives. Very serious.

[Baby D]

Yes.

[Rory Farrell]

Outside of that, how much of this shit is serious?

[Baby D]

I mean, Kanye allowed in my country. I don't know what the fuck they doing over there in the uk.

[Rory Farrell]

I ain't worried about that shit now. Was it Monday? We recorded Monday Yes. And we spoke about Kanye and us thinking that wireless would not happen. Sponsors were pulling out. We know that's a snowball effect. Once one sponsor pulls out, the other ones are kinda gotta look like, yo, y' all staying now? Cause that's kind of crazy to still be attached to that. So sponsors pulled out. But since we left, news had come out that Kanye has been banned. Banned. Not allowed in the United Kingdom.

[Baby D]

So the reasoning that the UK government gave is that his presence would not be conducive to the public good overall.

[Rory Farrell]

To the public good.

[Baby D]

To the public good.

[Rory Farrell]

His presence would not be good. Conducive. They.

[Baby D]

Conducive to the public.

[Rory Farrell]

Conducive. I like that word. Good word. Conducive to the public good. To the public good.

[Baby D]

Due to his expressing admiration for Hitler releasing a song titled Hail Hitler.

[Rory Farrell]

Okay, well, what about just saying he can't perform that song?

[Baby D]

So when I hear conducive to the public good, what I hear is that it might cause protests or uprisings. If he was to come, it will cause civil. It would cause civil unrest. That's what I hear. When I hear it's not conducive to the public good.

[Rory Farrell]

He just sold out so far, right?

[Baby D]

Mm.

[Rory Farrell]

No words about anything happening.

[Baby D]

That's la, though.

[Rory Farrell]

Yeah. I mean, there's. There's Jews in la. No, I think it's a lot of Jews in la, actually.

[Baby D]

Yes, they are Jewish people.

[Rory Farrell]

Jewish people in la. La, right. Yeah. Okay. No. No uprising there. He didn't perform Hell Hitler at. So far. Right. Had a show in Mexico City. Didn't perform Hell Hitler there either. Right.

[Baby D]

I don't.

[Rory Farrell]

I don't think so.

[Baby D]

There's that many Jewish people in Mexico.

[Rory Farrell]

I'm just saying he didn't perform the record.

[Baby D]

Yes.

[Rory Farrell]

So what would make them believe that he would go to the uk?

[Baby D]

But I don't think it's the performance of the record. I don't even think they're afraid of. I think they're afraid of people's reaction to the record. Not to the record, just him being there. So what Kanye now stands for in some people's eyes, standing for anti Semitism. I think that just his being now stands for that. So that's what they look at.

[Rory Farrell]

Yeah, but I just think that's just a little ridiculous. I mean, I can understand them not wanting him to perform certain songs just to push that message. I get that part. But to ban Kanye from entering the uk, that's ridiculous. I think that's just like, all right, bro. Like he wouldn't have been banned if he wasn't performing at wireless. Right. We think it's safe to say that he could have went to the UK and been chilling, recording if he wanted to.

[Baby D]

Probably. Yeah.

[Rory Farrell]

Without being. So the fact that they saw these sponsors pulling out, they assumed that Wireless would then cancel the Yay performance and go book somebody else, as we did. Right. Once they saw that wireless was still down to have.

[Baby D]

Now it's like, out of here.

[Rory Farrell]

This was like the. Okay, we're gonna block all of this from happening. He's not even allowed in the country. I just think that's a little too far.

[Mall]

Now.

[Rory Farrell]

If you know anything about the UK As I do in the drill scene and the music, I can assure you that those gentlemen that are walking the streets of the uk Their message is way more dangerous than Kanye.

[Baby D]

But they're locals.

[Rory Farrell]

True. But, I mean, you trying to keep somebody out because you feel like, oh, you know, he might conducive to public whatever. It's a whole bunch of these drill rappers that are probably more of a liability, more dangerous to the UK Than Kanye could ever be.

[Baby D]

Probably. But they home.

[Rory Farrell]

So I feel like this is just. This is them trying to send a message. I think this is them trying to potentially cause this type of situation to happen in Yay. And other. Other countries. Now, he did have a show in Amsterdam. I don't know if that passed already.

[Baby D]

Let me check.

[Rory Farrell]

Or if it's coming up, because I believe Amsterdam. I believe they made a statement.

[Baby D]

So, yeah, the Neverlands. The.

[Rory Farrell]

Oh, Neverlands with someone.

[Baby D]

Michael Jackson. The Netherlands. The Dutch prime minister released a statement and said that ye will not be banned from the country.

[Rory Farrell]

He will not be banned.

[Baby D]

Will not be banned. He is allowed to perform in the Netherlands. He good.

[Rory Farrell]

So June. I think that's June.

[Baby D]

June 6th and June 8th.

[Rory Farrell]

June 6th. All right. So, yeah, so obviously other countries, you know, Netherlands, they're supporting Kanye. He's allowed there to perform. So, yeah, I just think him being banned from UK I think that's a. That's a bit much. And how long is this banned for? Is it just until after wireless is over? Then he's allowed to come back because they just want to make sure he doesn't show up to wireless.

[Baby D]

Oh, yeah, that's a good question.

[Rory Farrell]

Like, will Kanye not be allowed to sell out the O2? Because Kanye can go sell out the O2. So will he not be allowed to ever go back to the uk? Like, that's a big market for Kanye. So, I mean, I just don't I don't know what this means. Like, what's the future of this with Kanye in the uk Is it like a permanent lifetime ban?

[Baby D]

Well, the board of deputies of British Jewish people says that they'd be open to meeting with him if he agrees not to perform this year.

[Rory Farrell]

They'd be open to meeting with him if he agrees not to perform this year.

[Baby D]

Yeah, we're willing to meet Kanye as part of his journey of healing, but only after he agrees not to play wireless festival this year. So it's like he. They. They don't even really want to ban him, but it's like, we just can't. You can't perform. That's so. You're right. It's really. They just really don't want him to perform.

[Rory Farrell]

Yeah, but what is all this?

[Baby D]

Yeah, like, this.

[Rory Farrell]

This is just. What is this? What do we. Like, I get it. Kanye has said some things that he should not have said, and we know that. And he said some things that was absolutely, like, crazy off the end. Like, we understand that. But now saying he's not allowed in the country, and I'm pretty sure Kanye has been in the UK since he had made those statements. I'm almost positive Kanye has been in London since he's made those statements.

[Baby D]

They just don't want him to perform. A wife.

[Rory Farrell]

They just don't want him on the stage performing. Yeah. I don't know, man. I think that's just a bit too. Too dramatic, too drastic.

[Baby D]

They add into his legend status.

[Rory Farrell]

Oh, no.

[Baby D]

Let me be clear.

[Rory Farrell]

Let me be very clear. This helps Kanye. Like, I don't. I don't think Kanye is sitting back mad. I don't think he's upset. I'm pretty sure he wanted to. He was looking forward to doing wireless because he's just looking forward to putting on the show and, you know, and adding to the fact that he's one of the greatest entertainers, but he's sitting back somewhere, wherever he is. Like, this is helping. The allure of. Yeah, this adds to that. I'm the bad guy. I'm banned from London. I'm the UK I can't go to the UK you know what I'm saying? Like, this adds to that hole to the story. So I don't think he's upset about it. I think he was looking forward to wireless, obviously. But, I mean, I guess he'll agree not to perform this year and sit down with the deputies of the British Jews, whoever that may be. The board of deputies of British Jews. It's like who? That's like when they knock on your door and they be like, yeah, we're here. Like who? Like, I don't. It's too many words, bro. Who are you?

[Baby D]

Yeah, shorten it.

[Rory Farrell]

Who are y'? All Backed by? You know what I'm saying? Like, so whatever. Like, he has to go sit down and meet with the board, whatever that conversation entails. He may have to pay a fine, donate to some chat. You know how that goes.

[Baby D]

Yeah.

[Mall]

Mm.

[Rory Farrell]

Donate some chat.

[Baby D]

Spend a little bread.

[Rory Farrell]

Spend a little bread. You know what I mean? You gotta grease the palms, you know what I'm saying? Then you allow back in. We know how this goes. But this does add to the allure of yay. In the story of him being the alleged bad guy and, you know, the alleged victim of it all for just freedom of speech, as. As he would probably say. But I do think it is a bit. It's a bit too drastic to say. He's banned from the uk, that's all.

[Baby D]

Well, I know this really chapped your ass because I know you all about freedom of speech and all of that, but.

[Rory Farrell]

But y' all don't let me be free in here. No, if the people knew how much y'. All. Yo, peace. Do we have the unedited file somewhere? When it's all said and done, we gonna release those files. Peas, like, just let it all burn up.

[Baby D]

Hell no.

[Rory Farrell]

Let it go up in flames, man.

[Baby D]

Cool. I'm so cool. How was your week? What you went up to, you been doing while being away from me this week?

[Rory Farrell]

I didn't really do much this week. I went to my boy, Shout Out. My boy Al Doe. He got an album. Him in Spanish Ran. Got an album coming out. Well, it's out when you're hearing this. When we were recording Thursday, so it comes out at midnight. Spanish Ran, Al Do Rock Paper Scissor. New album out tonight or out now, if you're listening to this. So I went to. They had a listening session last night at engine room downtown.

[Baby D]

How was that?

[Rory Farrell]

So I stopped by. It was real rap shit. Real Bronx shit. Real.

[Baby D]

One of those there.

[Rory Farrell]

Nah, this ain't really for the. Yeah, you know what I mean? This ain't that. You know what I'm saying? This is for the. You know what I mean? A very particular group, you know what I'm saying? But I'm excited for people to hear this project because coming off of Holy City Zoo, which is one of the best albums that year, I think this is a great follow up for that. And I'm just happy that Aldo is finally in a. In a zone where he's, you know, creating and releasing music. It's him in Spanish ran. The energy and the chemistry that they've built and created is dope. So I went to support my guys last night, but the album is out now, so stream that. Aldo Spanish Ran. Rock, paper, scissor. It's that tall. It wasn't really outside, though. I just went right to engine room, to the studio.

[Baby D]

They had food.

[Rory Farrell]

You know, niggas don't eat. It was a lot of liquor, though. Licking weed.

[Baby D]

I don't like being around.

[Rory Farrell]

But it's that part of rap, though. It's the party, you know, I got no hors d'.

[Baby D]

Oeuvres. Like, nothing.

[Rory Farrell]

All d' oeuvres is the grabber. It's the graph. That's the. That's the old turf, baby. D. The grabber.

[Baby D]

Yeah.

[Rory Farrell]

Put the grabber in the blunt, you know, that's the old durbs. Yeah, man. But it was dope to see, you know, a lot of familiar faces, cats I haven't seen in a while. So, yeah, that's all I did while we was away from each other. What you was doing.

[Baby D]

It was my goddaughter's birthday, so I ran to D.C. for, I don't know, 15 hours.

[Rory Farrell]

I ran to D.C. hold on. Stop slowing down. Slow the tape, Pete. Slow the tape. I ran to D.C. for a couple

[Baby D]

hours for my goddaughter's birthday. Yeah, she turned five.

[Rory Farrell]

D.C. is close to. Because it's the D to M and the V, Right? Ain't that what they call it? I'm not tripping. Am I tripping? It's the D to M and the V. Right? So that's D.C. maryland, Virginia. All right, so you ran down to the. Okay, a couple hours. 15 hours.

[Baby D]

Yeah, it was quick. I ran down there.

[Rory Farrell]

You drove. You flew.

[Baby D]

Train,

[Rory Farrell]

train.

[Baby D]

Yo, yo. Him. Him. I'm Rory. I take it all back. Call Rory back. Call Rory back.

[Rory Farrell]

You said you took the train.

[Baby D]

I took the train. Okay. I took the train.

[Rory Farrell]

Yeah, it's comfortable. Let's come to a ride. We took the train. Where did we go? Peas. When we took the train, Was it Philly? D.C. philly or D.C. right, one.

[Baby D]

I think it was Philly.

[Rory Farrell]

I think it was Philly. I think it was Philly. It was Philly. You took the train to Philly? Okay.

[Baby D]

Yeah. So I went to D.C. and we just. We went to some. Called Bubble Planet, which is just a bunch of balloons and ball pits and A bunch of. For kids. And the kids ran around mo. I don't. I don't know about the kid thing.

[Rory Farrell]

What you mean you don't know?

[Baby D]

I don't know.

[Rory Farrell]

How's birth control for you?

[Baby D]

It was the. Yeah. Kids at a birthday party, they scream, they run, they don't listen.

[Rory Farrell]

That's because the sensors. It's like car lights going off in the dash.

[Baby D]

I felt like I was in a cocoa melon episode. Yeah, that shit was a lot, bro.

[Rory Farrell]

Yeah, but I mean that's supposed to be a lot. Those kids.

[Baby D]

Yeah, but I'm a little. I get overstimulated. Really easy.

[Rory Farrell]

Yeah, but I think when it's your kid. I think it's different when it's your kid.

[Baby D]

Is it?

[Rory Farrell]

I think so. I think when you see your kid playing and interacting with kids and you see them kind of like finding their way, like, you know, he still can't really walk all the way but you know, he trying to. He see other kids walking, so he trying to walk. I think you'll enjoy that part of it. I think when it's not your kids and you just hearing noise and that's when it's like, oh my God, this is a lot. But yours is different. I'm assuming that your child will be different for you.

[Baby D]

No. Okay. I love my God kids to death. So they were having a ball, but them and they friends. I'm like, why y' all don't. And they fast. I'm like, why y'.

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[Baby D]

So I'm out of breath. They hitting corners and I'm over there like the spongebob me. Heavy breathing. I. I was like, uhuh. I can't. I don't know how y' all do this every day.

[Rory Farrell]

So it was just that. Just the kids birthday party. Yeah.

[Baby D]

And then I came right home. Yeah, I came right home. I. I got you a. Let the city see you real quick around 5am no. Only thing, I stopped at a coffee shop that had liquor and that was it.

[Rory Farrell]

Coffee shop.

[Baby D]

Cuz I had a headache and I didn't know whether it was my caffeine addiction or my alcohol addiction. So I just got a mimosa and a latte. The headache went away.

[Rory Farrell]

Mimosa, Latte.

[Baby D]

Yeah.

[Rory Farrell]

Which way it's gonna go? You don't even know.

[Baby D]

You don't even know. So that's what mom's. I'm tired of you already, bro. I see what type of episode you want to make.

[Rory Farrell]

I'm just with y' all type of episode. So shout out to dc, you had a good time?

[Baby D]

It was great. I had a great time.

[Rory Farrell]

Kids is good. The family is good. All right, then. That's all that matters, as long as everybody's Good down in D.C. we was

[Baby D]

chilling, but, you know, was shooting, apparently, in Miami.

[Rory Farrell]

Listen, I heard about that, and I didn't. I didn't look too much into it because I was just like, bro, what. What is going on? Like, we just had poo and them like, a week or two ago. Not even two weeks ago. Like, a week ago, we just had pooing them. Pooing them, pooing them, going crazy. And then now we got Offset, Lil TJ at a casino.

[Baby D]

So the alleged story, since you didn't look too deep into it. The alleged story. All of this is alleged. We don't know these fucking people, Right? Is that Lil TJ was posted in his close friends that Offset owe him money. Like, he was pressing Offset in the dms. Like. Like, I need my. My bread. Ryan. Exactly how much money was it? Like, I need my money. 10,000. I need my money. Like, where you got them? Slap the. Out you. And basically, offset was like, 10 bands. Okay, officer, like, you gonna slap who? They was at Hard Rock Casino. Shout out to Hard Rock. They were at Hard Rock Casino. And I guess TJ had gave him the money because they were gambling or something like that. Yeah, I guess Offset has a gambling problem. TJ linked it to him for gambling. Apparently, Offset didn't pay it back. Again, all of this is alleged. Y', all, we don't know, right? So it's alleged that possibly Lil TJ shot Offset. Lil TJ had a video coming out of the courtroom. Like, this nigga Offset a rat.

[Rory Farrell]

I saw that pointed at me. I'm not gonna lie. When I saw that, I thought that was fake. I thought that was part of, like, a video. Cause it just didn't seem real. Like, you coming out the jail, you start taking your shirt off. Cause usually when guys in a situation like that, they don't talk to the reporters. Cause lawyers say, shut the fuck up. Don't say nothing. TJ from my hood, he from the ex. I know how they give it up. He came out, he like, nah, Offset a rat. I'm like, this ain't real. This cannot be real. Like. Cause you don't usually run to whatever your car is at. I'm not talking to no cameras, no reporters. Let me get out of here and go back to my hotel. Go back.

[Baby D]

Shirt ain't even. Your shirt ain't even on.

[Rory Farrell]

But it was on. But then once you saw the cameras was on, you know, TJ started performing. He on the stage now. Let me take my shirt off. So I thought that was like. I was like, this can't be. It didn't feel like this was real, but obviously it was real. So he was saying that Offset is a rat, but he snitched and said he shot him. I don't know, man. Something is. This whole. None of this. Now I get it. If somebody owes you some money and you know they're not paying you back, yes, people are being upset. I need my money. I want my money. I just don't know if for 10,000, TJ is going to shoot offset. I don't think 10,000 is the number. I don't think 10k will get it done.

[Baby D]

Well, maybe he was trying to scare him because the offset appears to be fine. Thank God. Think.

[Rory Farrell]

Yeah, thank. First of all, thank God that offset is okay. And you know, he's. It's not life threatening injuries because that would have been.

[Baby D]

We don't need to lose any more Migos.

[Rory Farrell]

Yeah, that would have been absolutely crazy to wake up to that news. But. But I don't know if 10k is at the casino. We don't have no footage of this yet. Because if you've ever been to a casino, it's cameras.

[Baby D]

There's cameras everywhere.

[Rory Farrell]

As soon as you pull up on a casino property, valet area, parking lot, wherever, there's cameras everywhere. How do we not have footage of this already?

[Baby D]

I would assume it's coming. Somebody's legal team probably has it. I would assume that it's coming.

[Rory Farrell]

Yeah. I don't. I don't know, man. I just gotta wait till really more of this story comes out because it just doesn't sound little. TJ shooting offset for $10,000. Cause he owed him 10,000. That just doesn't sound right.

[Baby D]

Ain't that what Remy Ma went to jail for?

[Rory Farrell]

Was it 10 Remy? It probably. I don't know if it was 10, it might have been less. Remy might have. Remy might have went. She might have crashed out for less for 9.99.

[Baby D]

I ain't even gonna lie.

[Rory Farrell]

3,000?

[Baby D]

Yeah.

[Rory Farrell]

Three bands. Remy was like, y' all throw all this away. 3000, yo, shoot somebody. This is what I'm. This is what. This is why I'm saying this can't be real now. 10,000. I'm not frowning that 10,000. Somebody owes you 10,000. I would need that too. I'm like, bro, you can owe me some. Some bread, bro. Give me my money. Yeah, I'm not shooting you for $10,000.

[Baby D]

I don't think it's over the money, though.

[Rory Farrell]

My lawyer fee is going to be way more than 10. Like, I'm just not doing that.

[Baby D]

I think it's over the audacity to not pay me the back.

[Rory Farrell]

I understand that.

[Baby D]

I think that's what it is.

[Rory Farrell]

Sh. We'll jump you. We'll jump you. Me and the homies are with you.

[Baby D]

But if you jump a nigga nowadays, he's shooting, so you might as well skip that step.

[Rory Farrell]

Yeah, but if they. If you shoot, then. I mean, and I shoot back, then I'm not really in much trouble. I'm defending myself at that point.

[Baby D]

True.

[Rory Farrell]

But I'm just saying, I don't know if, you know, Lil TJ is doing that for 10 now. Again, I don't know Lil TJ like that. I know where he from. Just from my hood. I know how they give it up. Ain't taking no shorties, But I just don't know if it has to be more to the story.

[Baby D]

Well, now there's a MeToo movement when it comes.

[Rory Farrell]

It was always a me too movement.

[Baby D]

No, now there's a me too movement when it comes to Offset and owing people money. Because Dez Bryant came out and said that he owe him 8k, and Ebro said he owes him 5k, so. And Cardi has said before that he has a gambling issue. So Offset just out here owing niggas money.

[Rory Farrell]

Yeah, but Ebro. Ebro probably made a bet on a game, like, just on conversation. Like the Super Bowl. It was a Super Bowl. Do Offset really owe him, though, cuz? Like, I've done that with a homie.

[Baby D]

You can't make a bet. Like, if you make a bet.

[Rory Farrell]

No, you're right. You're right. But if it's something where it's just, like, we talking, and I'm like, the game is on tonight. And. And P.E. just like, who you like? I'm like, yo, I like the Nuggets and PE's like, N. I like Dallas. I'm like, bet it, Peach. Like, all right, bet. Bet the 5. Bet 5k. All right, bet 5k. If pee's lose the bet. I don't know if I'm coming in here tomorrow. Like, yo, give me my bread, bro. I don't know if I'm doing that now. I don't know the relationship between Ebro and Offset, but if it's somebody I fuck with like that. I don't know if I'm pressing Peez for that five on a bet like that. I don't know if I'm doing that

[Baby D]

if y' all are serious.

[Rory Farrell]

If we shoot me and Peez is right here shooting the dice, though, and he ass bet me. Oh, no. We gonna shake something. We gonna get these cameras moving for sure. You can't. Like, if I'm actively. Like, you took money out of my pocket. Like, I lost some money with you. That's different. But if me and P just in here talking shit about who play tonight and we just shoot the five, you'll bet five, but not.

[Baby D]

But these are serious gamblers, though. And when you a serious gambler.

[Rory Farrell]

Oh, heroes are serious gamblers.

[Baby D]

You serious about your bread?

[Rory Farrell]

DEZ Bryant might be a serious gambler. I could see DEZ really like gambling. Ebro. I could just see Offset in the studio, and they was just talking about some shit that super bowl and was like, betted or whatever.

[Baby D]

Well, Ebro says they've talked mad. You're right. He says they talk mad. Time since the super bowl, and it's not a big deal.

[Rory Farrell]

That's what I'm saying. That's. I don't. I don't really. Now Dez is saying Offset is being sued for 100k for gambling debt. Yeah, Offset, you might. You know, we. With Offset. We support Offset up here. Offset, you might. You might have a problem, bro. You might have a gambling problem. Yeah, when you getting shot in your ass because of gambling debts. Yeah, it's time. It's time to get an intervention, bro.

[Baby D]

N said he laid in the hospital like this, waiting for Cardi. Like, that's her. Somebody was like, did you tell her it was serious? I'm like, yo, has Cardi said something?

[Rory Farrell]

Has she spoken out about it?

[Baby D]

Has she. I don't think so.

[Rory Farrell]

I don't think so.

[Baby D]

I wouldn't. Well, I'm not going to give you the attention you want.

[Rory Farrell]

N. Don't do that. I'm not. Offset. Don't want their attention. But if your child's father is just

[Baby D]

shot, once you find out he. I. And you see pictures of him in the. In the hospital gown with the. I'm sure she called, made sure he was. I. Oh, he good. He got grades. Oh, he cool. I bet.

[Rory Farrell]

Okay. Yeah, yeah.

[Baby D]

Like, all right.

[Rory Farrell]

I can say I don't take everything away. I mean that. Yeah. They're still legally married, right?

[Baby D]

I think so. I don't.

[Rory Farrell]

So that's your husband. That's your husband and the father of your kids.

[Baby D]

Yeah.

[Rory Farrell]

It's a Cold world. Damn. Get shot, you can't even get no. See, that's why you got to give Chloe more flowers. See, Chloe, when she. Chloe said, till death do us, please. You saw the doc.

[Baby D]

She was with him.

[Rory Farrell]

She was with Lamar, teaching him how his ABCs. Again, Lamar didn't know his colors. He didn't know his ABCs. Like, Chloe was right there holding it down. Now, he was cheating on her. She knew all of this, but she like, yo, as his wife, I felt a duty and obligation to be there. Y' all don't give Chloe enough flowers.

[Baby D]

I give Chloe plenty of flowers. Nah, man, them motherfuckers would die in

[Rory Farrell]

my base, but I give her flowers. We was supposed to all watch that dog documentary and be like, nah. Khloe held it down.

[Baby D]

Everybody has said that, though.

[Rory Farrell]

Yeah, it ain't loud enough. It ain't loud enough. Like, cuz, cuz, like, a lot of y' all wouldn't do that. He was cheating that I would get him help.

[Baby D]

I would get him help for sure.

[Rory Farrell]

She got him help. She had him rehab. Like, personal rehab.

[Baby D]

Went back to smoking crack. Honestly, by the way, I meant to ask you, did they ever say that he stopped smoking crack? Like, did they ever conclude, yo, Lamar Odom is off crack? Or did they just give him money for a dock for him to go buy more crack?

[Rory Farrell]

Well, well, Baby D, when you're an addict, you know that it's one day at a time. And all we can hope is that Lamar is taking his recovery one day at a time. That's all. I don't know. I don't know. I'm just hoping that it's one day at a time for Lamar, and he's, you know, every day, one step at a time. That's all. Okay, Just one step at a time. But, yeah, man, prayers to Offset. Pay them people, man. They not playing. Hey, hey, Offset. Hey, hey, Offset, man, you know we with you up here. I'mma keep it real. Them Bronx ain't playing me. Give TJ that bread, whatever you owe him. Send that wire. My. He ain't playing.

[Baby D]

Obviously not playing with you now. Once you shoot me, we even. I'm not giving you no bread after you shot at me.

[Rory Farrell]

You, man. Not where I'm from. A shoot you and you just. You know what I mean, laid up. You all right? That's just the warning. That's the. That's the account number. The account number was on that bullet. Send that wire, fam. We not playing. Send that bread. That's it. That 10k yeah, we need that.

[Baby D]

I really think it's the audacity, like, the odd. It's the audacity, you not paying me back. Because if you come to me and be like, yo, bro, I'm not gonna lie to you. I'm down bad. Like, I'm down bad. I can't afford to pay you back right now. I don't think is gonna shoot it.

[Rory Farrell]

Yeah, but if you down bad. Down bad. Down bad. And I bump into you at the casino. Yeah. What you. First of all, is that my 10k? You about to start again? I need that. Like, we're not playing. Yeah, you just told me you was down, you was up. Now I'm bumping to you at the casino. Yeah, go cash out. Yeah. I need my bread. I need. I'm not playing with you. I need my bread. Definitely. I need my bread.

[Baby D]

What's the most somebody ever owed you? Oh, oh, my bad.

[Rory Farrell]

Hold on.

[Baby D]

Wait, hold. My bad word to me. I wasn't being.

[Rory Farrell]

It's still one day at a time for me. See, I'm. I'm. I'm healing, right? Like, I'm healing. I'm trying to become a better man. I'm trying to be a better person. You know what I'm saying? So, like, it's one day at a time for me. Stop triggering me, asking me some like that. I'm so sorry. One day at a time. So, yes, I don't. Nobody has ever owed me money. That's how I'm looking at it.

[Baby D]

That's how you looking.

[Rory Farrell]

That's how. That's how you have to move past it. Nobody owes me anything.

[Baby D]

All right. You're right. You're right.

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[Baby D]

I did have a question for you though. I meant to ask you last week. So have you seen any like posts? Well not like they go viral and stuff like that but Glorilla's sister has been a legend for a while that she don't really help their family.

[Rory Farrell]

Lorilla don't help the family.

[Baby D]

Yes.

[Rory Farrell]

Okay.

[Baby D]

And also T Grizzly's mama went viral for getting mad because he won't buy Her a car. That also happened. Okay, okay. Like, so Glorilla sister recently, just another thing that she posted. Glorilla was with her father at the Memphis Grizzlies and Toronto Raptors game, and her sister reposted and was like, bro, lights was just turned off a couple days ago. But okay. She's been. She's been complaining about Glorilla not getting them out the hood for a while. If you become rich and famous, how entitled should your family members be? And which family members should be entitled? Like, do you feel like you owe them or do you feel like you can give them what you feel like giving them when you can?

[Rory Farrell]

Which family member should feel entitlement?

[Baby D]

Yes.

[Rory Farrell]

I don't think any family member should feel entitlement, but if I'm okay with a family member feeling entitlement, it would be mom. If it was somebody who felt like they were entitled to something, it would be mom for sure. I think that part of being a man and having a mom is hopefully one day being in a position where you can retire your mom, you can take care of your mom, she doesn't have to work and she can just enjoy the rest of her life gardening or doing whatever she wants to do around the house and things like that. I think that's the dream or should be the dream and goal of every man growing up is to one day retire their parents to where they don't have to, you know, work and bust their ass every day. But there is a certain type of parent that exists at the same time. I have a lot of friends who have made a lot of money and, you know, some money that, you know, most people will never earn and see in their life. And, you know, without exposing too much, they have very interesting relationships with their parents where some of the stories you hear is like, you know, I sit back and listen, I'm like, damn, like, you bought your mom five houses and she still ain't happy. You bought your mom four cars and she still ain't happy. She's still asking for more. Shit, if I bought my mom five houses, she might not ever ring my phone again. So there is a line. Because, you know, certain parents, again, parents are humans. Even though they are parents, they have their flaws as well. They, they, they, they do lean on the side of sometimes taking advantage. And parents feeling like your success is theirs and your money is theirs. But then it's other parents who they don't. You know, I got, again, friends that make a lot of money. And, you know, their parents don't ask Them for anything. But those are the parents that get everything.

[Baby D]

Yeah.

[Rory Farrell]

Because it's like, you know, simple. Bought my parents a house, bought my dad his dream car that he always wanted, and that's it. Like, they happy they don't need. Put them on a little monthly allowance to, you know, stock the fridge and things like that. That's it. Happy they're not, you know, milking the cow. They're not trying to, you know, rinse their kids dry for, you know. Because they believe this and you work for this. This is your life now. You know what I mean? Enjoy it. But me personally, I do think that you should, if you're in a position, no matter what, to help family or friends. Yeah, you could not. You should, but you could.

[Baby D]

Even if you feel like that family or friends are bad with money.

[Rory Farrell]

Well, that's what I'm saying. You have to understand who you're helping and what the help is. Like, if I have a friend that's, you know, every month, he's like, yo, I'm fucked up. Me giving you this 2000, $3000. Ain't gonna have you not fucked up. You about to fuck this up. You know what I'm saying? You just a fuck up. But I mean, again, you have to know your family, know who you're talking to. And this could be very well be one of those situations with Glorilla. Like, she's probably helped her family and, you know, they're doing whatever they're doing with the money, not being responsible. Because I know situations like that where on the outside it may look like, damn, he don't do nothing for his. And it's like, bro, that nigga did a lot. His family is just very greedy. They're very, like, you know, they just entitled. Like, he doesn't have to take care of the entire family. We all got 24 hours in a day instead, yo, what you got? You know what I'm saying? Business plans. What you be? You know what I mean? Help your friends out with that. Yo, my homeboy, he wanna do. He wanna open a food truck. I get him a food truck. Get your tacos off my nigga. You know what I'm saying? Like, things like that. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, okay, cool. Like, now we business partners. Like, I want 20%, 80% is yours. You know what I'm saying? Like, just kick me back 20% of the business, things like that. You know what I'm saying? I think there's ways where you can help. Just help your friends or your Family. If they have, especially if it's family that, you know, they really have, you know, some type of education and they understand money, responsibility, they have real things that they're actively. You see them actively moving towards their goals and their dreams. I think sometimes if you're in a position to help them get to that, then, yeah, why not? Because to me personally, I love to look around and see all of my friends doing something that we all talked about at one point. Like, yo, I'm about to. My boy opened a store and you know, he got that idea just in the crib in the pandemic, trying to make space in his closet. He's like, yo, bro, I don't got no way to push it. Made like $8,000 on. I don't know if it was Poshmark or one of those sites one month. And this is used clothes, used sneakers. Now he take care of his thing, so it didn't look terrible. But just the idea that this is not brand new stuff and I was able to get rid of a lot of this stuff and make $8,000. Clearly there's a market for this. Boom. All right, Opens a store. Now you got one of the best resale stores in the city. Like high end pieces. And this is just off an idea. You get what I'm saying? So it's like, when you have friends that you see are like that, those are the friends that you get behind and support and help. But if you got your cousin that's just smoking up your money, that nigga's right where you left him two years ago. Standing on the same block, ain't doing nothing. He ain't going because he don't have no ambition.

[Baby D]

That's what a lot of people don't understand. And that's not even just like, with rich family members trying to help family just period. Even us being in the position that we're in when we have, I ain't got it.

[Rory Farrell]

I ain't helping nobody.

[Baby D]

I'm not talking about money. I'm just playing, yo, but opera. When we have the. We have opportunities for people, right, that we might not give to people, or people might ask us for opportunities. Like, yo, I know you look for this, this and this. Like, you know, I've had people come up to me like, yo, I know you looking for an intern, or, I know you looking for this, or, yo, start a podcast with me like, damaris, let's do our own thing. It's like, if I don't see you moving on your own, I'm not Going to push you. Yeah, I'll push you if you move in on your own. We love to help people when we can help them and when it. I feel like my help is going to be appreciated and put to use. But you want me to do this for you, and that means you don't want it bad enough. If you're not willing to do it without my help. You don't want it bad enough.

[Rory Farrell]

Yeah, because you can help people crash, too. Like, I've seen that happen. I've seen people give, you know, friends and family position, and it's just like, oh, you helped them crash faster than if you didn't help them. Because some people just don't have that. You know, they. They say they want to do this, they say they want to do that. Then once they're in it and they see the work that it entails, the time, the dedication, it's like, you know, they start falling off. You like, you don't really want this shit. You say you want it. You want to make money and you want to be able to buy things that you like and travel. You want those things. But the part that people don't see to that is the work and the time and the hours that you got to put in. You're going to miss a lot of events, a lot of family gatherings, a lot of, you know, things that you probably would want to be at because you gotta. You building this thing, you building your dream. So I think that, you know, you help family and friends if they're worth helping. Yeah, you know, it's a hard pill to take once you realize like, damn, my friends ain't shit. Like, these niggas is lazy.

[Baby D]

Niggas is bums.

[Rory Farrell]

They just. They, yeah, they real talk like, yo, they bums. Like, yo, bro, y' all not even talking about the right things. Your conversations is not even productive. Like, you start to realize that after a while, and then you realize how fortunate you were to get away from that, because I could have been right there and on that same call.

[Baby D]

And then they say you acting funny because you start hanging people. You start hanging with people who have similar interests and similar work ethic. And it's like you acting funny. It's like, yeah, this is not conducive to the person I want to be.

[Rory Farrell]

I'm acting real funny. I love that. When say, yo, I can't relate to you no more. I love that. I mean, I love not really. I love not related to that. Don't floss their teeth. Oh, we have nothing in common. I love it, baby. I love it. Yes.

[Baby D]

Yo, but not even. That's so true. Because even with if at you guys's last venture, I used to beg Rory, right? I used to beg Rory. Like, yo, I say mall and so. And so is so stupid. Like, let me come up there and talk. And he's like, girl, sit down. I was young, right?

[Rory Farrell]

I'm young, running around stupid.

[Baby D]

Yeah.

[Rory Farrell]

I ain't know that about you. Your time coming up.

[Baby D]

Like, you sound so dumb. The same shit we argue about now. I used to sit and just listen and be like, why don't you say something to him? But, you know, now I'm here saying it. But he used to like, girl, sit down. Like, you not serious about that. That are like, please. Like, he didn't take, you know, he didn't pay me no attention. And then he saw that I started. I went to school for communications and I started, you know, I was sending pictures of me in my audio and video production classes and doing shit on my own and also went and did shit and worked for Rory for free, interning and stuff like that. So once he saw I was serious about what I was saying, then it's like, okay, then I'll give you an opportunity. Like you. You're making your own moves.

[Rory Farrell]

Own.

[Baby D]

Like you're not just sitting there listening to podcasts, talking like everybody else on the Internet.

[Rory Farrell]

I mean, it happens. I mean, look at my family, my brothers. I never worked at Rockefeller.

[Baby D]

Yeah.

[Rory Farrell]

Looking back, I shouldn't have been working at Rockefeller. I'm just looking back, I'm like, I get it now.

[Baby D]

Yeah.

[Rory Farrell]

Young. I didn't, I didn't.

[Baby D]

You wouldn't have appreciated it at all.

[Rory Farrell]

But full circle now we work together, me and my brother. Cuz it's like it still happens, but it has to happen. When all parties are in a position to really be serious about what they doing. Me being young and outside and moving around. I wasn't serious, mind you.

[Baby D]

It was people that would have sold they last pinky toe to get their opportunity, probably.

[Rory Farrell]

But I mean, me personally, I always was the one that, you know, I was just. I always wanted to find my own. You know what I'm saying? Like, y' all going, right? I'm going over here. Like, I was always like that from a kid. Like, so I think it all happens when it's supposed to. But yes, if you're in a position to help family and friends that deserve it, that deserve it, that are actively working to build something themselves. If your dad is, you know, he's a farmer and his, you know, the John Deere tractor is fucked up. Get him a new one. Pops still wanna work.

[Baby D]

John Deere's expensive.

[Rory Farrell]

I'm just saying. But Pops still wanna work. He's still out there in the field every day with the crops and all that. It's that he could get more done if he had a new tractor, get Pops a new tractor, things like that. Like, you know, still put people in a position to work for themselves and have something of their own, but they have to be actively already trying build something, create something for themselves. Those are the people who I think you take care of first. Mom and dad, if they did a great job with you and they took care of you and, you know, they loved you and they gave you all of the tools that you have today that helped you become who you are, then I think it's only a natural process. You reach back and you help mom and dad. So, I mean, yeah, to Glorilla, sister. I mean, I don't know their dynamic and I don't know their family history and things like that, but I gotta guess that Gloria, probably to a point where she like, listen, y' all don't appreciate and y' all just up like. Or the flip side of that glow, really just don't want to help y'. All.

[Baby D]

She could just not with y'. All. I mean, that's gonna be fine, too.

[Rory Farrell]

Listen, it goes both ways sometimes.

[Baby D]

You think your kid gonna be a nipple baby?

[Rory Farrell]

Hell, no. That work as soon as he get his papers.

[Baby D]

I mean, he's a citizen.

[Rory Farrell]

No, like, his working permit, like we got. We can work when you're able to work at, like, 15, he getting right out in the field. Yeah, we putting him right to work with Mall Sweep, the Barbershop. You doing something? Yeah, you need that.

[Baby D]

I understand that, but what I mean when I say Nepo, baby, I mean, like, giving him an opportunity in the media industry with his uncles.

[Rory Farrell]

You don't want no part of this shit. Not the media space. Because you know what's interesting about the media space? People get so hung up on. My opinion is just one of 8 million in my city. There's 8 million opinions in New York City.

[Baby D]

Very true.

[Rory Farrell]

Right? Mine's just one of them. But people will hold you to that and get mad and call you names. Dick Ride. It's like, bro, it's mad opinions out here in the world. This is mine. This is my point of view, my story, my feelings. So I don't know if I would want. I would want my kid to do something creative. For sure. I think we should all create.

[Baby D]

Yeah. He wouldn't have to be a talking head like us.

[Rory Farrell]

But I want him to be. I want him or her. I don't want to say him. I would want him or her to do something creative because with technology and shit, a lot of these positions or, you know, these things that people do now is gonna kind of be phased out. I think so with technology. I think the one thing that I think technology can't really interfere with is going to be like arts. Things to do with art. Whether it be like, you know, music, architecture, building design, things like that. Now, I know technology can come in and face some of those out, but I think there's always going to forever be a lane for artists and entertainers.

[Baby D]

Yeah.

[Rory Farrell]

Technology can be implemented into entertainment.

[Baby D]

Yeah.

[Rory Farrell]

But you're still going to need people to entertain and to create ways of entertainment for people. So I would definitely want my kids to do something in the artistic space. For sure.

[Baby D]

Okay. I would love for my kids to do something in things that I wasn't brave enough to do. Like strip. Is you cool? I'm not you so fucking.

[Rory Farrell]

I feel like every woman thought about it at least once before. Like, you would go to a small town where nobody knew you just to see how much you were making one night.

[Baby D]

I don't.

[Rory Farrell]

Because if you make I baby D scenario.

[Baby D]

Okay.

[Rory Farrell]

You go to a small town. Hold on.

[Baby D]

Huh? Because mom want to see me naked. That's really what this show.

[Rory Farrell]

I don't want to see you naked. But I'm just saying, I feel like everyone, like if you was able to go to small town one night, I thought about it. And you cast out ten bands. Cash, baby. Then you going back next Saturday. Don't tell me you're not.

[Baby D]

No. Because if I.

[Rory Farrell]

If you went to a small town, nobody know Baby D. This doesn't matter. You get on the stage, they ain't never seen chocolate like that. And you walk out of there and you. You count 10k. Mom, you're not going back next. I will drop you off again next Saturday.

[Baby D]

If I did what I was supposed to do and lock in, I could make 10k off of a brand deal without having to show my.

[Rory Farrell]

But yeah, but it's only an hour. You got to show the ass, though. Like, look how much free time you got. I'm just trying to give. I'm just trying to give you freedom, baby. I'm just trying to not have you at the job for so many hours, man.

[Baby D]

I guess it's not, not. It's not my personality. But I would love for my kids to go into something like screenwriting, directing, like those type of things that I think I would have been good at, but I wasn't really brave enough to do because I was afraid, afraid to fail. I had a real bad. That's the thing feel fear of failure. That's probably my biggest fear is.

[Rory Farrell]

But I think that comes from environment though. Like having a fear of failure comes from I think the people you're around growing up. Like that's something because I don't. You not born with that. You're not born with a fear of failure.

[Baby D]

No.

[Rory Farrell]

You're taught that. So you be around people. You be around. It's like, you know, whether you have parents that support your ideas. That's why it's important to support your kids ideas and their dreams because you're like, oh nah, you ain't gonna do that. Going in and get in the books do that. You going to college, you going this. You know, like, damn, I could do that too, but I want to do this.

[Baby D]

I had parents that was. I still have parents that would support anything I chose to do. Like anything my dad would.

[Rory Farrell]

We had that talk. Your moms hung up on you when

[Baby D]

I said por like if I said I wanted to be a recording artist, my dad would build me a studio like I. They would support anything I wanted to do. The issue is that I have a fear of loss of security. So I will always go with the safe option because I'm terrified of losing security.

[Rory Farrell]

But how many times in your life have you been scared of something, a moment, not knowing whether it's work, whether it's moving, whether it's. And you'd be like, damn, how am I gonna get out of this? And then you look up and that was five years ago and you, you perfectly fine. You straight.

[Baby D]

It happens. It happens a lot.

[Rory Farrell]

I think that only I'm not gonna say listen and I don't want to sound up baby D. But I be feeling like that's like just up like bro, that's. That's you.

[Baby D]

You a up you.

[Rory Farrell]

You a piece of bro. Let's just keep it a thousand. It's you.

[Baby D]

Yeah.

[Rory Farrell]

Cause I feel like if you somebody that's like. Because we open up just like, damn, I'm up. Rent due, car note. Damn, how the. I'm a. I gotta move out. I gotta find a new spot. Damn. They just fired me at my job. I gotta get a new job. You always in a position where you like you don't know what's next. Not once did I end up sleep on the train, is all I'm saying.

[Baby D]

Mall.

[Rory Farrell]

I'm just saying. And I've been very blessed, for sure. Alhamdulillah. I am right. But I feel like when you see the ones out there, and it's like. It's like, bro, you. You know why I say this? Perfect example. This kid I grew up with right on my block. So my neighborhood, it was co op buildings, right? So, you know, car buildings is nice. Like, you gotta. You gotta. You own the apartment, you know what I'm saying? There's a whole, like, board. The building is always clean, nice, right? Family had money, bro. He's sleeping in the bank, strung out on drugs. And he grew up, he had everything. That's a choice. I feel like his family got tired of helping him. They was helping him, giving him this thing and he getting high doing it. That is a choice. That's you. That ain't because your circumstances is fucked up. It's you. Your circumstances became fucked up. Cause people was like, yo, cut him off. We not fucking with him no more.

[Baby D]

But all it takes is for you to try one drug one time and you got an addictive personality and you have ruined your life.

[Rory Farrell]

But I know people that have addictive personalities that are drug addicts. They ain't sleeping in Citibank, you know what I'm saying? They still get up. They functioning addicts.

[Baby D]

I know a couple functioning addicts.

[Rory Farrell]

You see what I'm saying? They get up, they're like, I gotta go to work. Cause I need to support my habit. Whatever it is, I need to support my habit.

[Baby D]

I ain't gonna lie. You still a hustler.

[Rory Farrell]

Like, I'm a. I respect anybody that's working to support their habit. It's a level of respect that I'm always gonna have for that. Cause you ain't asking nobody for nothing. You getting up, going to work. You ain't taking nobody's shit. You like, yo, listen, I'm gonna wake up, go to work. Soon as I get off, I'm going to get a bag and I'm gonna get high. And the next morning, rinse and repeat, I'm going back to work again. Because I want to keep getting high. Listen, bro, I'm not judging you. But when you got people that you see as just like strung out on, it's like, bro, you probably came from a cause. Like I said, I know people that came from good families that held them down. And it just got to A point where they was like, yo, bro, we not. He's a up.

[Baby D]

Yeah.

[Rory Farrell]

Oh, she's a po. She's still. Every time we let her come live and wake up next morning, it's flat screen gone. We're not gonna keep opening, you know what I'm saying? Like, your family gets to a point like, yo, there's nothing we could do about. For her, yo, we tried to get her help or we try to get him help. Like, even watching Lamar Odom Doc, it was crazy because it was something that he said in there where he was like, did basketball help his addiction? Or did. Was something he said to her was like, did it allow for his addiction to grow? And that's real because you become successful sometimes in a whole different world opens up to you. It's like, damn, have I always been an addict? I just didn't have the lifestyle to

[Baby D]

support it, the freedom.

[Rory Farrell]

You get what I'm saying? So it's that part of it too. People become successful and then find out they're addicts. They're addicted to something. Whether it be you can start off being addicted to money, and then you're addicted to. To attention, addicted to fame, addicted to women, sex. Then it turns into drugs and this, that, and the third. And now you in the Citibank sleep on the floor with your ass out stank stanking up the whole lobby. I'm just trying to go get my money. Yeah, it's real shit, baby did happen.

[Baby D]

Yeah, I guess I feel like we all know a fuck up or two. At one point, I was terrified I was a fuck up.

[Rory Farrell]

You was never a F up.

[Baby D]

My trajectory didn't look the same as so many other people, baby.

[Rory Farrell]

D, you're 22 years old. What was your trajectory?

[Baby D]

I am not 22.

[Rory Farrell]

Okay, you want me to tell your real age? Because I was trying to give them

[Baby D]

your 29, but y' all keep making me younger. Nobody's ever gonna believe you.

[Rory Farrell]

So what is. What was your trajectory? So because the average millionaire becomes a millionaire, what, 40 something years old, something like that?

[Baby D]

Yeah, right.

[Rory Farrell]

It is your trajectory.

[Baby D]

I'm telling you. When I was younger, you have to understand, I dropped out of college at first because I just. I had going on personally at home that I had to handle. I couldn't focus on school, so I would see my friends graduate. And, you know, they're going. They're being nurses, they're being lawyers, they're being. And I'm over here, like, bartending and, you know, bartenders make decent money. You know what I'm saying. But it's like showing that you don't know I was at a restaurant.

[Rory Farrell]

Yeah, show the balloon knot. Now watch how much you counted it. I'm with you, baby.

[Baby D]

But yeah, like I just felt, I felt like a, like I felt like a up because just typical nine to five jobs just didn't work for me. They didn't work with my adhd. I didn't feel comfortable. I didn't get along well with people. Like I was good at school, but just typical 9 to 5 just didn't work for me. And I really did feel like a up until I discovered that I was meant to be a creative and that you can really make money off of your creativity. But. And your personality, which was something that I wasn't used to. But yeah, I was terrified. I was a up. That's a real fear. I guess that's what makes me not a up, right? Because fuck ups don't like really care about being fuckups. They just kind of like up in peace.

[Rory Farrell]

Yeah, ups don't know their fuckups too. That's just, they just life, it's freestyling. They just like, oh, I ain't know I was a piece of shit.

[Baby D]

I feel like, you gotta know, baby

[Rory Farrell]

D, a lot of them do not know that's just life to them. They don't know that they failed. They don't know that I'm telling you, like everybody that's a failure does not know that they are a failure. Or it's everyone else's fault.

[Baby D]

He said yes, everyone else's fault.

[Rory Farrell]

Yeah, like you ever see the entitled panhandler New York? Yo, bro. Yo, New York, yeah, it's some panhandlers like, yo, they will square up. They like, yo, you don't hear me talking to you? What they get right here? Yo, you don't hear me? I know you got your airpods on. You don't hear me like, I'm up. Can I get something?

[Baby D]

Yeah, they call me A in a heartbeat. That's why I started saying I be like, I don't have any cash on me, but I'll pray for you. I had to start saying that N cuz I used to be like, nah, they used to be like, you, I know you got money.

[Rory Farrell]

You going to pray for a panhandler though.

[Baby D]

I do tell them I'm going pray for you.

[Rory Farrell]

Going end up on World Star. Don't do that.

[Baby D]

I always like, I don't have any cash, but I, I, I'll pray for you.

[Rory Farrell]

God ain't about to Help me go get this Popeyes. Like what? You pray for me? I'm hungry. Now.

[Baby D]

They usually say thank you.

[Rory Farrell]

Well, that's a. That's a grateful.

[Baby D]

Me and Peach bought some. Didn't we buy some kfc? Oh, no, it was. She was at Dollar Tree. No, she was going to go to kfc, but she was like, you know what? I could actually take this money and go to Dollar Tree and get more meals, remember? Yeah, we gave her some money. She went to Dollar Tree because she said she could get more. We were gonna get her food from KFC because we were next door to kfc and she was like, actually I could take this money and go to Dollar Tree and get twice as much. Which she was right about.

[Rory Farrell]

Did she look homeless or. She was like down.

[Baby D]

She looked like down on her luck.

[Rory Farrell]

Oh, so she probably gonna get some groceries. Yeah, Dollar Tree.

[Baby D]

Yeah.

[Rory Farrell]

See, you either give her a fish or teach her how to fish. See, take that money. But she did what my man say. She ain't got the Salisbury steaks

[Baby D]

tomorrow. No, it's not funny.

[Rory Farrell]

She went. Got the Salisbury steaks from Dollar Tree. Yeah, that KFC I got. I got food for two weeks.

[Baby D]

If Biggs makes a. If they make a movie about Biggs life. You gotta let him use your likeness, my brother. Yeah, yeah.

[Rory Farrell]

If he want to put me, my. My likeness in the movie.

[Baby D]

What if they ain't trying to break you off now?

[Rory Farrell]

Nah, that's. It's all good. But my brother, I'm not tripping. Nah, I'm gonna tell him to pay me.

[Baby D]

Okay, so what if he die in the owners of his estate?

[Rory Farrell]

Who owns the estate? I would hope it would be one of us.

[Baby D]

No, maybe it's his wife.

[Rory Farrell]

Oh yeah, she got.

[Baby D]

Or Jay Z, maybe you don't even know. He signed it over to Rock.

[Rory Farrell]

Run that. Jay got. Run Jay got enough bread. Jay. Run that, run that, run that. We need that. We need that bread. Yeah, you got to pay me. We run that, run that.

[Baby D]

So the. The. It's coming out. This has been a rumor for a while, but it's coming out that Janet Jackson is like left out of the Michael movie because she did not want to sign over rights to her likeness for it. I. This, I'm not gonna lie, this has put a big damper on me about the movie because that was. That was the part of the movie I was looking forward to, honestly, as a Jenna fan. And I don't want to see no movie about Michael without like Gina being in it.

[Rory Farrell]

Now I bought my tickets Already for this Michael Jackson movie, I bought them at two different theaters because I was like, I don't know if I'm gonna be feeling like going to this one or going to the city. So I just bought tickets at two different theaters. Obviously grew up a huge Michael Jackson fan, a huge Jackson family fan. And I did hear about Janet being left out of the movie. I don't know now. If I saw something with Janet was saying, don't support it. Don't go watch it.

[Baby D]

I wouldn't go watch it.

[Rory Farrell]

I wouldn't go watch it. Because if Janet is saying that, it's a reason that she's saying that on the business side, they didn't do what they were supposed to do. They didn't take care of the Jackson estate like they were supposed to or whatever. But Janet not being mentioned or in the movie at all is a little crazy.

[Baby D]

They can probably mention her, but they can't show her.

[Rory Farrell]

They can't show somebody.

[Baby D]

Yeah, yeah.

[Rory Farrell]

So if they doing it like that, where it's night. Because it is the movie. But I just. It's just so hard to tell the Michael Jackson story without Janet anywhere in that story. She's such a huge part of the Michael Jackson story. So, you know, however they. The directors and producers wrote the film and whatever they did to kind of get around that, again, if Janet didn't come out saying, don't support it, then I'm definitely going to see this movie. I mean, this is a big part of my childhood. Looking forward to them telling the story and seeing how they told the story. Looking forward to his nephew acting and, you know, depicting his uncle. Just a lot of variables. I'm like, it's interesting. I would want to go. I've seen. I just saw they will kill you. Terrible. I'm going to see Michael. Like, it's just. I'm going to see.

[Baby D]

The Internet seems to agree with you, with they will kill you, everybody.

[Rory Farrell]

That is the worst movie I've ever seen in my life, and I've seen a lot of bad movies.

[Baby D]

It's worse than. What was the one with Trey Songz and Paula Patton, Baggage claim. It's worse than that. That. That was the worst movie ever since. That was the worst movie ever seen in my life.

[Rory Farrell]

I don't even think I saw that.

[Baby D]

Paula Patton, Trey Songs. It caused baggage claim. Yeah, yeah.

[Rory Farrell]

It was on tubi.

[Baby D]

Well, no, it was in the theaters. It's on to be now, but it was in the theaters.

[Rory Farrell]

I don't think. Wait, was that what she. Her family Was like, at a beach house. I don't even.

[Baby D]

I don't even remember that's how bad.

[Rory Farrell]

Yeah, no, I don't think I saw that movie. But, yeah, no, they will kill you was terrible. But yes, if I could go see they will kill you. I'm going to see the Michael movie. Yeah. I'm about to order my penny loafers.

[Baby D]

Socks.

[Rory Farrell]

I'm gonna get the glitter socks and all of that.

[Baby D]

Who you going with?

[Rory Farrell]

I don't know. I just bought a bunch of tickets.

[Baby D]

It ain't me.

[Rory Farrell]

I thought it was gonna be sold out. I thought it was gonna be sold out, like, out everywhere. So I was like. So I went online and I was like, oh, they got. You can buy the tickets now.

[Baby D]

When does it come out?

[Rory Farrell]

April 24th. So two weeks from now. Okay, Two Fridays from now. Yeah, so I'll let you know. Definitely. We can go check that.

[Baby D]

I'll let you know. Nick's like, I'll let you know.

[Rory Farrell]

I'm gonna let you know what date I'm gonna go to. A couple tickets for each theater.

[Baby D]

Okay.

[Rory Farrell]

Two different theaters. One up about where I live and then one here in the city. Because I was like, I don't know if I'm gonna feel like going to the city or, you know, whatever.

[Baby D]

So his. His daughter, Paris Jackson has said that she was not involved because it's not accurate. She said the movie is not accurate.

[Rory Farrell]

So Michael's daughter wasn't involved.

[Baby D]

Yeah.

[Rory Farrell]

So Michael's sister wasn't involved and his daughter. I don't know, baby. D, I don't think we supposed to go see this movie.

[Baby D]

I mean, I'm gonna go see it. I ain't gonna lie.

[Rory Farrell]

I'm just saying it feels like Paris ain't fucking with his it. Janet ain't with it. I don't know, baby. It just feels like we're supporting the Colonizers with this one.

[Baby D]

Paris Jackson says it panders to his fandom. It's not accurate to his real life. It just panders to his fandom, which makes sense.

[Rory Farrell]

Yeah. I don't think we supposed to go see this. I ain't gonna lie. I think. I think we gonna regret this in a couple years going to see this. I think we gonna get the real story behind, like, Janet gonna sit down one day in her document and start talking about this shit. We gonna be like, damn, we supported that. I'm going, though. I gotta see it.

[Baby D]

Yeah. I don't give a fuck.

[Rory Farrell]

Cause if I don't go see it in the theaters, I'm gonna watch it when it's streaming.

[Baby D]

Very true.

[Rory Farrell]

You know what I'm saying? So it's like I might as well go see it when it come out. No Warrior Now Today's show is brought

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[Rory Farrell]

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[Baby D]

Well, before we get into voicemails, I have a question for you. I saw this on the Poor Minds podcast. Shout out to Lex and Drea.

[Rory Farrell]

Shout out to Lex.

[Baby D]

We're having an interview with Reginae, Lil Wayne's daughter, who has grown up before our very eyes. So even having this conversation from an interview with her is crazy. 10 minutes of absolute amazing sex or 45 minutes of mid.

[Rory Farrell]

10 minutes of absolute amazing sex Or 45. 45 minutes of mid, not mid.

[Baby D]

Okay, okay. Six.

[Rory Farrell]

Nah, give me that 10 because that 10 could feel like 45. You ever had crazy sex and you look at the clock, you like, that was only six minutes. We didn't did 12 positions in six minutes. Yeah, give me 10 minutes of some fire.

[Baby D]

But four plays included in that.

[Rory Farrell]

Four plays included in the 10. That's fine. That's fine.

[Baby D]

You're a man. I shouldn't have asked a man this question.

[Rory Farrell]

45 minutes of mid sex is crazy, not mid.

[Baby D]

Okay, like, it's. It's okay. It's good.

[Rory Farrell]

It's okay.

[Baby D]

It's good. Like it's good. Like you'll. You'll orgasm from it. Like it's good. It's just not it's not mind blowing, but it's good. It's some you would do again.

[Rory Farrell]

45 minutes of good sex. Not amazing, just good or 10 minutes of mind blowing. 10 minutes of mind blowing sex. Nah, I need that 10 minutes, though.

[Baby D]

Yo, who you thinking about and why you staring off into space like that? My dog?

[Rory Farrell]

Cause I'm just thinking like 10 minutes of blowing sex versus 45 minutes of just. I think it depends, though. It depends. All right, all right, it depends because you like.

[Baby D]

Okay, let's add this thing. You really like shorty. The 45 minutes. You really like her.

[Rory Farrell]

Oh, nah, give me that. Give me that 45.

[Baby D]

Let me take not 10amazing from a booger wolf.

[Rory Farrell]

First of all, first of all, I'm not having sex with a booger wolf. I'm way past those years old.

[Baby D]

Okay, so 10 was somebody you don't really with like that. She cute, but you don't with that girl like that. You can't wait for her to leave

[Rory Farrell]

after 10 minutes of just. Just of somebody that I like. She a baddie. She fine. She.

[Baby D]

But the sex is cool.

[Rory Farrell]

Now give me that 45. Okay. Because I don't really like what I need for sex. Like what? She. She don't. She don't like.

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[Rory Farrell]

It's just not like what's making it, not what's keeping it from being mind blown.

[Baby D]

It's just. It's not my. It's just not mind blowing. Like, it's cool. That's cool.

[Rory Farrell]

But I like her.

[Baby D]

But you like her.

[Rory Farrell]

Yeah, give me 45 minutes.

[Baby D]

Okay.

[Rory Farrell]

Yeah, give me 45. Cause I could take my time with her. You know what I'm saying? I like her. So I enjoy looking at her. I enjoy watching her. Enjoy seeing her naked. Yeah, give me 45 minutes of that.

[Baby D]

Okay.

[Rory Farrell]

10 minutes of mind blowing sex is dope, though. But if you're saying I don't really like her like that, and I'm not really like, yeah, now give me that 45 minutes.

[Baby D]

It's good to know that men still care about liking women. That sets my heart ablaze.

[Rory Farrell]

Well, me, some of these don't. No, let's be clear. Some of these dudes, I do not like y' all at all. But me, yeah, if I like you like that, and I'm like, yeah, give me. I need. Let me take my time with that. Put that in the crock pot.

[Baby D]

It's my dog.

[Rory Farrell]

Yeah, let me slow. Let me slow roast that thing. You know what I'm saying? Look at that balloon out a little bit.

[Baby D]

Okay, Ryan, do we have mobile, please?

[Rory Farrell]

You've got mail. Hey, y'. All. Shout out to the pod. I'mma. I'mma just keep it brief, but this is a message for all the gay. Whether you're out, whether you're closeted. As a gay myself, or a slightly zesty. I think we're at a period where it is comfortable for people. People to come out and be themselves. But at the same time, y' all ain't gotta hide it no more, because the more y' all hide it, the more gets revealed. So this isn't a shot at anyone in particular, but if y' all know any gay out there, provide a comfortable space for them to come out.

[Baby D]

He's shooting at somebody.

[Rory Farrell]

He's shooting at who?

[Baby D]

Somebody he know. That's. That's DL Listen to this podcast, and he know they listen.

[Rory Farrell]

I respect it. I understand him.

[Baby D]

Like, yeah, that nigga said once, he said, as a gay myself, I said, oh, he's spitting. He ain't even being funny.

[Rory Farrell]

Well, I knew he was gay when he first started talking. Ma, I'm just being honest. Ma, I'm just being honest. I heard the. It's the texture. It's the tone.

[Baby D]

What texture is it? Mimic it. Mimic it. It.

[Rory Farrell]

It's just like, yeah, hey, so I have a. I was like, is this. Who is this? And then when he said, as a gay, I'm like, oh, okay, now we're all right. You know what I'm saying? Like, so. Yeah, I mean, there's nothing wrong with that. You know, I just. I just. I can hear it. I can hear the. It's the. It's like. Cuz, you know, like, gays have this. It's a posture. So everything is kind of like. Like, it goes here.

[Baby D]

You learned this in vocal class?

[Rory Farrell]

Yeah, it's the soft palate. It's the soft palate out trajectory, the projection of the. So when it. When I heard that, I was like, oh, no, this is somebody that got the straight back. You know, the straight backs where they just, like, they look like they're on a hoverboard all day. So, yeah, so I heard it. And then once he confirmed it, it's like, okay, so my shit is still. My spidey senses still work. But I agree with him. I think that, you know, you should. It's okay. Like, why are you still. We talk about that, like, people being on the down low. Why? It's 2026. Like, is nobody. It's weird to be down low now.

[Baby D]

Yeah, that's weird as Fuck.

[Rory Farrell]

You know what I'm saying? Like, now we're in the era of it being weird when you're not openly gay. Yeah.

[Baby D]

Gay niggas is looking at you like, ugh.

[Rory Farrell]

Like, yeah, what's wrong? Like, fam, what you doing? Like, it's okay. Like, we're accepted everywhere now. We're, like, visa accepted internationally.

[Baby D]

I don't know about the Midwest. Like, if they really fuck with gay

[Rory Farrell]

people like that west, that's where they at. Really? What, the Maris? The Midwest.

[Baby D]

They in Kansas. Paige, Pizza?

[Rory Farrell]

Not yet. Are they in Kansas? Not yet. Yo, they definitely in Kansas. 100%. Approximately 2.9 million LGBTQ adults live in the Midwest. Ohio and Illinois are home to some of the largest populations, with Chicago recognized as a major LGBTQ hub. Yeah, they out there. That's why they be so aggressive out there. Mad and shooting all the time.

[Baby D]

Cause they gay.

[Rory Farrell]

Yeah, just be open.

[Baby D]

I wouldn't be saying angry. Be gay. I don't know.

[Rory Farrell]

Angry.

[Baby D]

Saying they fight. Saying they fight. And even fighting bisexuality.

[Rory Farrell]

Well, I know who he talking about. He talking about the overly aggressive. Always angry, ready to fight them. Do listen, they want some dick.

[Baby D]

I get overly aggressive when I want some dick too.

[Rory Farrell]

Yeah, cut this like you cut. We know. It's okay. Be gay. It's fine. You ain't gotta shoot the cook out up. Like, just go be with your boyfriend. Like. Like, you gonna up our good time. Cause your boyfriend. You and your boyfriend beefing, and nobody know you got a boyfriend.

[Baby D]

Yeah.

[Rory Farrell]

So you can't tell nobody that. You and your boyfriend beefing. So now you shooting up the spade tournament. Come on with this, man. Go be gay, y'. All Go be gay, dog. Nobody cares. Go be gay.

[Baby D]

We got any new music coming out? This one this weekend, Ryan? Oh, DJ Khaled coming out with us. He must be coming out with an album if he coming out with a single.

[Rory Farrell]

Well, he's definitely coming out with an album, but obviously he thought he had two Drake songs, and he no longer does, so he had to Drake recalibrate and do that. So he is dropping a one of them song with Future and Lil Baby that is out tonight. Obviously, we're recording this Thursday, so this comes out tonight, Lil tj. First time. This is what I'm telling you. I don't think none of this is real. I think all of this is rollout. I don't. I don't know something about this.

[Baby D]

I think will shoot a. For a rollout these days. Like, really shoot a rollout.

[Rory Farrell]

That's a fact. Lil TJ coming out with a song first time tonight. Isaiah Rashad. Interesting voicemail. Isaiah Rashad coming out with a single. I'm just saying, the universe will allow for the space to open up and create the comfortability. Shout out to Isiah Rashad. That's our guy. We support Isaiah. Same shit, same shit. Tonight, Snoop ten Til Midnight A album. We in a Snoop album tonight.

[Baby D]

What do we think that sound like? That sound.

[Rory Farrell]

I don't know.

[Baby D]

That sound like Central Seduction.

[Rory Farrell]

Snoop 10 till midnight. I ain't gonna lie. That sound like. Yeah, he might be getting his R and B. Snoop.

[Baby D]

The official track list.

[Rory Farrell]

Drop who he got on that thing. Okay. Pharrell, Swiss produce. Okay. Richard Pryor. Oh, okay. Peasy. Trinidad James. Shout out to Trinidad James. October London. Oh, yeah. This, this, this, this. This feels like R B. Well, now you got Eric Sermon producing on there. Rick Rock. All right. I think.

[Baby D]

Okay.

[Rory Farrell]

We gotta see what Snoop doing. I wasn't looking forward to a new Snoop album. I wasn't on my vision board for 2026. But I ain't mad at it.

[Baby D]

I ain't mad at it. His last one I wasn't mad at when we were playing it.

[Rory Farrell]

Yeah, check out Snoop tint'til midnight tonight. Bossman dlo. Look, D Lo, we just finished talking. Look how the. I'm just saying, the universe has a way of showing itself to you. Boss man. Dlo. Chicken Talking Bastard.

[Baby D]

That sounds like it's gonna be.

[Rory Farrell]

That is an interesting. I wanted to. You know what? I wish I could have been in the boardroom when they was like, marketing this album. Chicken Talking Bastard coming out at midnight. I would have just had some push back on the title. But okay, that's just me. Money Man Shout out to money man. Break the rules of Stay Broke.

[Baby D]

I like Money Man.

[Rory Farrell]

I like that title. Break the rules of Stay Broke. Hello. I like that. Shout out to money man. And also Aldo Spanish ran Rock Paper Scissor tonight as well. I'm not mad at it.

[Baby D]

Not mad at no music.

[Rory Farrell]

Some. Some. Some good. Some good music tonight. I'm definitely see with that cal. I want to see what that record sound like. Hopefully it don't sound like. Like every other C. Every other future.

[Baby D]

Yeah.

[Rory Farrell]

KHED record. Like, we need a different. Hopefully they gave us a different vibe.

[Baby D]

So it's gonna be hot in New York next week. So I need something to. I need something to sip a margarita too. What's up?

[Rory Farrell]

You was just sipping margaritas when it was 40°, baby. It don't matter what degree.

[Baby D]

Yeah, but the rooftop. I'm gonna do it on a rooftop. I'm gonna take pe. Me and PE Going to do it on a rooftop. We're gonna play the number game. Me and Peach gonna see who can get more numbers.

[Rory Farrell]

You can't get no more numbers than a girl. Baby Peas don't. Women getting way more numbers than guys. That's not.

[Baby D]

No, but we're gonna do girls, though, so to make it easier for him. I'm not gonna do guys. Like, that's crazy. I would do girls.

[Rory Farrell]

Yeah, but that's. That's easy, too, for y'.

[Baby D]

All.

[Rory Farrell]

Cause y' all exchange numbers even when it ain't no sexual thing. Like, y' all just like, if I meet a random dude at the bar, he's like, yo, bro, let me get your map. Get the. Away from you. Like, like, we kicked it here. It was cool. The game was on. We both liked the Knicks, but we ain't about to exchange numbers. N. Fuck you mean?

[Baby D]

What if he wanna kick it again?

[Rory Farrell]

He not kicking it again.

[Baby D]

You was a good Knicks partner.

[Rory Farrell]

We not kicking it again, fam.

[Baby D]

That's why they had the male loneliness epidemic. Cause y' all don't like making new friends.

[Rory Farrell]

It's a male loneliness epidemic. Who said that? The world the fuck outta here.

[Baby D]

Niggas be lonely.

[Rory Farrell]

Niggas do be lonely, but niggas be pieces of shit. If you lonely, it's cause you a piece of shit. Nobody likes you. You cool. Ain't lonely.

[Baby D]

Okay.

[Rory Farrell]

You ain't never seen a cool that was like, yo, he lonely, but it's cool.

[Baby D]

That's pieces of.

[Rory Farrell]

But what type of piece of, though?

[Baby D]

Like, what. What type of turd? What color?

[Rory Farrell]

Yeah, is it, like, watery? Or is it, like, solid? Is he solid? Cuz you could be a solid piece of shit. Like, but if you water, it's like, you'll do anything. You just all over the place. Like. But when you solid, it's like, yo, that nigga. But he's solid, though, right? They not lonely. It's like, you just know. You can't fuck with him like that. As a. You can't take him serious. But he's solid, though. He gonna make sure you get home safe. He might not call you after he hit, but he gonna make sure you get home safe. He gonna make sure you was fed, you had a good time. You have a great 24 hours, but you might not hear from him for a month. It happens. He ain't lonely. He just selective. It's a difference.

[Baby D]

That's you, right? That's you, right? That's you.

[Rory Farrell]

Is that me? Yeah, that's you.

[Baby D]

You definitely don't be hitting bitches for a month.

[Rory Farrell]

That's not true. See why you put that on me?

[Baby D]

You definitely don' from mall.

[Rory Farrell]

That's not true.

[Baby D]

You got a favorite that you might hear every day, but it's definitely a you're not gonna hit for a month.

[Rory Farrell]

That's not true.

[Baby D]

Because you don't want her to get attached.

[Rory Farrell]

They don't hit me either, though. All right, so what that mean when I'm not hitting you and you not hitting me now? If you hit me and I'm not responding, that's different.

[Baby D]

I'm not hitting you because I know you don't want to talk to me.

[Rory Farrell]

That's not true.

[Baby D]

If you wanted to talk to me, you call me.

[Rory Farrell]

That's not true, though. But what if I want to talk to you, but I'm like, damn, she don't hit me.

[Baby D]

If a want to talk to you, he'll call you.

[Rory Farrell]

That's true. But I'm just saying, why you can't call me if you want to talk to me?

[Baby D]

That's too much like chasing you.

[Rory Farrell]

See, that's Y. That's where y' all go to. Y' all don't want to feel like y. Okay, what's wrong with chasing somebody that you like a man? Yeah.

[Baby D]

No.

[Rory Farrell]

What's wrong with going after your dreams?

[Baby D]

Men.

[Rory Farrell]

Don't you chase your dreams? Don't.

[Baby D]

If I let. If I let you.

[Rory Farrell]

Do you chase your dreams?

[Baby D]

Sometimes.

[Rory Farrell]

So then sometimes chase, chase the man.

[Baby D]

You not a dreamy.

[Rory Farrell]

Not. Not. Wait, I'm a dreamy. I don't know who you talking to. Be dreaming about me.

[Baby D]

Be telling you they drifting.

[Rory Farrell]

I love that. Lie to me. I wasn't in your dream.

[Baby D]

That's my favorite. Oh, I get that off, boy. I get that lie off.

[Rory Farrell]

Cause my first thing is what I was doing. Look, y' all had a dream about you, what I was doing.

[Baby D]

Buying me something.

[Rory Farrell]

Watch the lies happen. Nah, I saw you. We was at some spot. Yo, cut it out. That was not me.

[Baby D]

My shit be fire. My dream. The dreams I be having about niggas, my shit be fire. I tell niggas we was coloring in the park.

[Rory Farrell]

Yo, don't tell me you dreamt about me. And we was coloring in the park.

[Baby D]

I was coloring in the park. We had a picnic like you went and got me Popeyes.

[Rory Farrell]

If a girl tell me she dreamt about me, and it's so. In the dream, we wasn't keep that to yourself. I don't want to hear that. Don't tell me you don't tell me. We was at a concert. You trying to go see Jay Z. Cut it out. Like, yo, if a bitch.

[Baby D]

You said more.

[Rory Farrell]

I had a dream about you. I don't want to hear. No, I just had a dream about you. Word. What we was doing. Yo, we was at the whole concert. Cut it out. It's not happening. It's not happening.

[Baby D]

Yo, you got text about dad. That was a hell of a dream, wasn't it?

[Rory Farrell]

I don't even do that. I'm going blow your cousin. Cut the. Stop the cat.

[Baby D]

You ain't taking Nobody to the JayZ.

[Rory Farrell]

No.

[Baby D]

Yo, if you mall right now and you can't get Jay Z concerts, you need to keep your to yourself.

[Rory Farrell]

Yo, why you. That sound like hate.

[Baby D]

First of all, that's reality.

[Rory Farrell]

How you telling my what to do?

[Baby D]

That's. That's crazy. What you mean, bro? If I was. Yo, if you're mall right, if you're any of Big's brothers right now and you can't get tickets to the Jay Z show, keep your coochie to yourself, though. That's wild. As if you anybody from Rockefeller, Rock Nation, Rock Marciano, any of those. And you can't get Jay Z concert tickets. Keep your coochie to yourself for the rest.

[Rory Farrell]

I hate though. I ain't crazy cuz.

[Baby D]

Y' all can't take everybody. Y' all can only take the favorite. Y' all can't take everybody.

[Rory Farrell]

Yo, that is some funny.

[Baby D]

And you not taking rules. So who you taking?

[Rory Farrell]

Rory going.

[Baby D]

Yeah, but you not taking Rory. So who you going? Who you taking?

[Rory Farrell]

No, I'm going by myself. I'm going by myself. I'm be honest. I'm not taking nobody.

[Baby D]

Can you take me?

[Rory Farrell]

I'm going. I'm going. I'm going by myself. I just said. I just said what I was doing. Maul is going by himself to experience a night of Jay Z at Yankee Stadium.

[Baby D]

You can't take me.

[Rory Farrell]

That's what I'm gonna do.

[Baby D]

You can't take me.

[Rory Farrell]

I'm going by myself. I just told you. I just told you what mall's plans are. I'm going by myself.

[Baby D]

Crazy.

[Rory Farrell]

Oh, man. All right. Well, what you doing? Oh, you better go out of town.

[Baby D]

Yeah, I had to go to Syracuse. My little sister's birthday. Shout out to Thailand.

[Rory Farrell]

Shout out to Thailand. Little sis. Happy birthday.

[Baby D]

Yes. So I'm going to take her to dinner.

[Rory Farrell]

So they got restaurants to serve you boy, floss you.

[Baby D]

Yes, they got nice restaurants. We have a big Italian community, a big Irish community. We have good food up there.

[Rory Farrell]

Once you got the Italian community. Italian food. Yeah, some of my favorite. All right, well, have fun till everybody Syracuse said, what's up? Tell little sis we said happy birthday, Nothing but love. And we'll talk to y' all soon. Be safe, be blessed. I'm that nigga that's Baby D. Peace. No worrying now.

[Mall]

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[Rory Farrell]

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[Rory Farrell]

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[Rory Farrell]

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[Baby D]

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[Rory Farrell]

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[Baby D]

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[Baby D]

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[Rory Farrell]

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[Baby D]

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